Pardon My Take - Bill Burr, NFL Refs Problem With Mike Pereira, Lebron Shames, And The Nats Are In The WS

Episode Date: October 16, 2019

The Cardinals are dead and Natitude is sweeping the nation. (2:35-9:04) Lebron Shames had a bad press conference about China and we try to clean it up for him with a bonus verbal banksy. (9:05-20:27) The Lions got screwed on Monday night and ref memes are big time back. (20:28-28:05) Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Jalen Ramsey, Yankee fans earning their pinstripes, and Hank finally did his taxes. (28:59-40:55) Bill Burr joins the show to talk about his new comedy special, his favorite stadiums in America, and pissed off sports fans. (42:12-1:20:18) Former NFL Ref Mike Pereira joins the show to fix the NFL ref problem. (1:22:35-1:35:11) Segments include XFL Draft Grades,(1:38:39-1:43:05) PMT Sports Biz Minute,(1:43:06-1:44:06) and Guys on Chicks.(1:44:07-1:49:54) You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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What else did we talk about? The stadiums we've been to. Again, we talked about just a lot of stuff. We just wrapped up Bill. Trigger warning, we didn't even talk about being triggered. Yeah, credit to us. Credit to us.

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Welcome to part of my take presented by The Cash App. Go use code Barstool. You get $5 for free, $5 to ASPCA. Today is Wednesday, October 16th and the St. Louis Cardinals are DEAD Dead. Pretty psyched about that. Now, full disclosure, it's the top of the eighth as we're taping this right now.

They're dead. The tying run is at the plate, but they're dead. They're dead. It's a bird slaughter out there. The Nationals are a wagon, especially I saw this fact earlier when they're wearing those blue, the color rush unis. Those aren't color rush.

Well, they're different colors than normal. So when they're wearing their color rush uniforms, they're 21. White pants, pretty color rush. Pretty incredible. So pretty incredible stat. As the biggest Nats fan in the world, I'm very excited.

I've never been a part of a World Series run before. Never happened to me. Even back in the day when I was growing up and my dad wasn't taking me to Orioles games, never was really a part of some posties of magic like this. Soak it in. It's an electric atmosphere there. They've been a wagon.

It's honestly, yeah, it's not even fun. It's been so easy. That's what I said. I don't like the Cardinals, but it was too easy. They let you guys let them off too easy. We did. How about, do you still like Dexter Fowler? Yes.

As a former Cubs? Of course. OK. Why wouldn't I? I'm just curious. Yeah, no, if he goes to the enemy like that. Here's the fun thing that you can always say about Dexter Fowler or any tall, lanky, leadoff hitter, center

fielder, he is the straw that stirs the drink. There you go. That makes you feel like a big baseball guy. There you go. He's not so good this year, though. He's a table setter. And anyone that wins a ring for your team likes him. No, he hasn't been very good.

A lot of Dexter's out there sucking in the eighth season. Also, he came back, too. That was the big thing when he surprised everyone at spring trainings. Dexter's back. Anyone that wins a ring for your team, you always have a little appreciation. And he's just an all-around likable guy.

I have a couple points I'd like to make about this Nats team here, if I may, off the jump. Number one, Bryce Harper should get World Series ring if we win one. Shin went to Bryce. He got this whole thing started. He said, I'm here to bring a title back to DC. Bryce Harper, we're doing it for you.

We're doing it for the entire NL East. For Bryce Harper, for the Braves. This was a revenge game on the Cardinals for all the Braves fans out there. I got your back. City of Atlanta. The Mets, just because KFC was out there when I was watching. So that one was for KFC.

Got it. And then Marlins Man, also. And that's all I'm going to say about that. Yeah. That's right. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Marlins Man has listened a tradition unlike I know you haven't been to a World Series yet,

but a tradition unlike any others. Marlins Man going to baseball games with some hot women. I should never have said the name. The second it came out of my mouth, that was a bad decision. That was a bad decision. I figured one of you guys would have that in Hot Seed Cool Throne. OK, I'll explain what happened here,

because it was all fine. Everything was above board. You stopped thinking. I stopped thinking. On Sunday night, Marlins Man hits me up. He's like, hey, are you going to the game tomorrow? I've got a ticket for you. And I'm like, no, Marlins Man.

I've got to get back to New York. I'm going to watch the game on the live stream. It's a commitment that I've made for the company. My outfit. I'm going to dress up like my big baseball boy pants. And I'm going to have a great time at the old game. So, and then we just walk in. I'm going to put some baseball cards in the spokes of my

huffy, and I'm going to bike to the office, and I'm going to watch the game with my mitt. I'm going to sleep with my glove under the bed so that it gets that nice crease in it, and spit on it, and oil it up real good. So I told him I couldn't go to the game on Monday. And on Thursday night, Friday night, excuse me, I bought my mom birthday tickets to go see the Nats play.

She's never been to a playoff baseball game. And I was going to do a real nice thing for her. Bought her two seats for her to take a friend. And she was so happy. She was like, PFT. I'm so proud as PFT momitur. This is the nicest thing that's ever happened. And I'm going to get to see my team win.

And so I tell Marlins Man, I can't do it. But then I just throw in. I was like, but I did buy my mom tickets. So hopefully you'll bring some good luck. That's where you stop thinking. And then Marlins Man said, where is she sitting? And I was like, oh, she's going to be out in the outfield. She's not going to be close to you.

And then he goes, there's no way that I'm allowing your mom to sit in the outfield. I've got two seats for her. Second row behind the dugout on the first base line. And then he just sends me the tickets. He just sends me screenshots of the tickets. And I give them to my mom. She just sold them.

I send them to my mom. And then Marlins Man says, and I'm going to be sure to go by and say hello to her. And then during the game, I was like, oh, maybe he forgot. No big deal. Like the fifth inning rolls around, I start getting a flurry of tweets from Marlins Man. It's probably seven pictures of him hugging my mom

in different ways. And then one of them, he just says, shoot her, shoot with his arms around my mom. That was brilliant. That was a brilliant caption. And my mom called me this morning. She was like, your friend Marlin Man was very nice. Oh my god.

And he was such a nice guy. And I had such a great time that she started to cry because she was so happy that she got to go see the Nationals when a playoff game. She was crying. That's how proud of her big baseball boy son she was. OK. That she got to go see a game.

And so that's the end of the story. I made my mom. I made my mom really happy. What's the worst part of this? And I'm very happy that she's my mom. What's the worst part of this? The fact that Marlins Man probably exchange numbers potentially with your mom.

Yes, the fact that Marlins Man might exchange numbers. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm going to throw them out there. Marlins Man exchanged numbers with your mom. Didn't happen. You, your stepdad is now Marlins Man. Didn't happen. Marlins Man has multiple pictures of your mom in his phone.

And we've seen the pictures of Marlins Man's phone. And he's going around showing everyone. You're the worst son of all time. No, no, I'm not. I'm not the worst son of all time. I'm not the worst son of all time. You pimped your mom out to Marlins Man. Let me ask you this, Big Cat.

How many games has your son sent you to? Never. Zero. And if he sent me to a game with Marlins Man, I'd say no, thank you. No. Well, you know what? It was a great experience for her.

And I'm glad that she got to have that. And I'm a great son. He's so, he's so proud of me. He's going to be so pissed that he's not on screen right now. He's just off screen. So yeah, congratulations to the Nationals. The new best fans in baseball are the DC fans. Yes.

Very classy all the way through. I appreciated everything they did. One thing you'll notice about the Nats fans, they don't leave. They don't leave until the end of the game or until the Metro stops running at 11 PM. Correct. And all right. So let's talk some, we're going to do more baseball

and hot seat, cool throne. Let's do, should we do Monday night football? Or should we do LeBron Shames? Let's do LeBron Shames. OK, let's get started with that. So LeBron Shames, LeBron James released a statement about China on Monday night. And boy, did he step in one because it was a press conference.

It was basically what he's a media. He actually, it was such a bad statement that if he had come back and 10 minutes later, been like not or like opposite day, he would have been good. Yes. He would have been good if he was like everything I said, that was a joke. I meant the opposite of that.

I think that you're seeing this a lot. Anybody that speaks about the controversy in China affiliated with the NBA has to correct themselves immediately. It's like Urban Meyers series of apologies that he has to make to issue an apology for the first apology for the first statement that he makes. LeBron absolutely put his front of his mouth big time on this one.

And the weird thing is everybody is united against LeBron on this. Everyone agrees that he messed up to the point that we can't just handle like agreeing with each other on this. We have to agree that we don't like what he said for different reasons on it almost. So very clearly LeBron should not have said that like Daryl Morey is uneducated

and that what he's saying about China is a hoax essentially. Well, that was the killer for LeBron when he started his press conference with when you're misinformed or you're not educated about something and I'm just talking about the tweet itself. You never know the ramifications that can happen. Boy, was that some foreshadowing for LeBron. He was talking about himself.

That was past LeBron responding to Instagram post to future LeBron. When you don't know what you're talking about and you talk about it, you can get in trouble. So yeah, the whole thing was weird, especially considering the fact that like Daryl Morey at the base of it, he still hasn't like, he just tweeted pro-democracy.

Yes. And so it's very bizarre to be like, he's not educated, he doesn't know what he's talking about. Yeah. He literally just said democracy, good, authoritarian, bad. And then he had some things out there about like player safety and fine. The worst part was actually the player safety thing.

I kind of alluded to that a couple of weeks ago. Like if I was an NBA player and I was in China last week, I probably wouldn't have said anything bad about China in a press conference because of my own safety. Which is telling on yourself, by the way, because you're basically saying China is like, so the government in China will lock anyone up for any reason.

Absolutely. It's not safe to say anything bad about them while in China. Huh, should we be doing business with that? Right, the fact that, let's do a quick thought experiment. Let's imagine that Canada had three million Muslims in reeducation camps right now, right? And then we went up there to play in a series, like a traveling series of NBA games.

Do you think that anyone would have a problem with saying, like, hey, Canada, you shouldn't be doing this? Probably not. Probably not. Probably not, but the fact that it's China. That raptor's money. There's so much money coming in from China. Here's an idea, LeBron, this'll tie in

with your business interest nicely. Have President Xi on the shop. Ooh, he's definitely gonna do a barber shop that like tries to, he'll probably get Enos Cantor on because Enos Cantor dunked all over LeBron James, the only time he'll ever dunk on him. And the whole thing. Enos Cantor, he's too real to go on anything with LeBron.

No, he is. He sees right through it. He sees right through it. Yeah, so LeBron basically, and then he did the, I think he even, he's actually doing it, he keeps on stepping in it because then he tweeted and saying he was misquoted, which was the most predictable thing ever.

And then today he said, that's the last time I'm gonna talk about it, because I'm not a politician. Okay. And it's like, but wait, we. It's a human thing. Yeah. It is a human thing. So either way.

You think China though, like would probably get along well with LeBron James, just for the intellectual property theft that he's done in his life. Yes. They probably take their heads off. Hey LeBron, if you go to China, you can trademark Taco Tuesday. You can do whatever you want.

That's for sure gonna happen. Are the idea of getting your hair cut? The fact that it happened on Taco Tuesday, the saddest Taco Tuesday. So you think he was like, it's Taco Tuesday. He didn't do Taco Tuesday, did he? No, at home he did. Did he put it on IG?

Listen, if you're in the James house on a Tuesday, you're having tacos. Did you guys see what he put on IG recently, his most recent Instagram story? No. It's a picture of him and Steph Curry and they're like on the court from their game laughing at each other.

It's a picture. And the caption is, if only they knew what we were talking about. And then the clown emojis underneath it. So just completely like. You had to be there. Yeah, yeah. And here's the thing, like I understand,

we're all hypocrites at the end of the day about everything. Oh, big time. So it's not, yeah. Our thoughts are like, everyone out there that is a hypocrite, it's like the NFL parody clock of every team that beats every team. You can dunk on anybody in the world for being a hypocrite because we all, there's no one who's not.

We all are. But guess what? The person who isn't is a fucking loser. Yes. Correct. Correct. If you don't have a little advice. So the fact that LeBron James

and a lot of the NBA players didn't speak out while they were in China or all this stuff, while they're very vocal on social issues when they're a state side. Okay. You're a hypocrite because you're making money off China. Yes, you're hypocrite. Correct.

The fact that he said that Daryl Morey was wrong for being pro-democracy in this situation. Tough. That is not good. That's not good at all. So this, let's go to a little lighter side here with LeBron James. I was thinking about what it must have been like

to be in the LeBron camp. Let's call it the LeBron camp last night. His guys, his crew, whatever you want to call it. We don't say the P word. Shout out Phil Jackson. Do you think that they knew right away where they like, hey man, we got a problem. And on top of that, do you think,

it dawned on me last night, do you think they all call him king? I wouldn't, I would imagine they do. I like, hey king. He probably makes some of this. Hey king, we got an issue, king. The haters are out. They're wrong, but they're out.

I think it's a situation where he's like, it's one of those things where it never reaches him. No, no, no, no. Who do you think is the guy that goes and was like, yo LeBron, this is bad. Someone says to him, hey king, king, Mr. King, I don't think what you said was bad, but a lot of haters do.

They just hate you because you're the king. That's actually. And that's how they break it to him. It's a good point. Like if you just refer to anybody as just a hater, then you don't have to listen to any of the substance of their life. The haters don't like it.

They're just haters. They just hate everything. They are the haters. But no, he definitely, someone alerted him because he responded so quickly on Twitter. I thought it would take at least a day for him to say he was misquoted. He was out within an hour saying that's not what I meant.

And it's tough when it's a video. That's actually the lesson there, which is a good segue for the NFL ref problem, but just don't do video of it. Real quick, I. Just get it transcribed. Do a sit down. He's gonna do such an awesome sit down

with like Rachel or like Jeremy Shapp. It's gonna be the softest lighting of all time. He's educated himself. He'd pull a Jeff Darlington and sit way too close in a big room. Let's hope. What if he goes to a school and teaches, like he goes through it with them?

He did. It's gonna be great, whatever happens here. He really, really plays it up. He did bring that up. He talked about the school that he was invested in. He's like, that's where my focus is, not on geopolitical issues. So he's already like deflecting to that a little bit.

I think he realizes. He has to realize. The shield of children. He has to realize that he's fucked up a little bit. I also like how Hank is now getting into like, he's understanding geopolitics a little bit now that Enos Cantor is a Celtic. And LeBron is best though.

So the key to learning more of affairs is to have a current Boston athlete weigh in. So, okay. It's not just that though. I said this last week, like, I don't know what it says about me that I really didn't know about any of this China stuff until the NBA was involved,

but I have researched and looked into it. It's bad. Much more ever. It's bad scene. Than I ever have. So I think. About the nine dash line. China bad.

That's a good thing. Because now I'm like, yo, that's fucked up. Right. It's bad. So that's the spin zone. LeBron has just taught the world about, he's shown a light. He did this on purpose.

This was all a lesson. It's like when we had the Flat Earth bullshit that was going around and everyone was like, well, we're just asking questions. LeBron was just doing a thought experiment to let shine light on people not knowing how bad China is. And then in two days,

he can do the Marshall Henderson and says it was a social experiment. You all fell for it. Look at how many people have Wikipedia China. LeBron James might be the person that brings down the Chinese regime. Because everyone gets so educated. Now they're on the hot seat.

That would be the most respectful thing he could do, but he's not going to do it. Because at the end of the day, he knows he can't talk out. Like he can't try and spin China negatively at all. Dude, so many people are going to watch Space Jam. By the way, you brought up the Flat Earthers. I cannot wait for Kyrie Irving to weigh in on this.

He's got to get in. Cannot wait. He's doing some reading. We did this a couple of years ago. It was a segment on the show called Open Letters, where we just like, if you hit somebody with an open letter, that's as devastating as it gets. I have an open letter to LeBron James as a LeBron stand.

Okay. Do you mind? Yeah, go ahead. Please wait until the end for your applause. As a bronze sexual and defender of yours to the grave, or the end of whatever podcast segment I'm farting my way through is extremely disappointing to see you become a China stand.

Your failure to stand up against a regime that holds millions of ethnic minorities in prisons while suppressing freedom of speech was disheartening and cowardly. All in the name of your own personal convenience, for shame, sent from my iPhone. Nice. Got him.

That was a Banksy. Oh, you want to do a verbal Banksy? That was a verbal Banksy. Got it. The NBA logo? No, it's a verbal Banksy. All right, let's start. Let's start with a basketball.

I like the NBA logo. Yeah, well, let's start with a basketball. But it's Chinese flag colors. Ooh, how about this? How about it's a basketball, so it's orange and black, but it's the shape of the Apple logo from the company. Okay. And there's a slice missing out of it.

And then Mickey Mouse is biting the slice out and then he's crapping out dollars onto the floor. Okay, I like that. And then then in Mickey Mouse is wearing the Lebron Equality, what is it? Equality Home 16s, the shoe that he put out. So he's wearing those. Okay.

And on top of all of that, let's say there is, so the Apple, so wait, so it's a basketball. The Apple Slice is out. And then it's Mickey Mouse wearing. Ooh, they should have the workers that assembled the Apple products jumping off the top of the Apple.

Into this, like the void. Yeah, into the void, yeah. Into the void. And then attached to the Apple Slice is a little girl. It's actually a balloon. And this is all of our imagination. And letting it. So it's inside of a balloon.

Okay. She is wearing a Bitcoin shirt. Ooh, that I like that. That's nice addition. And then he says, her shirt says, do you crypto bro? Then me, you, Dennis Rodman and Kim Jong-il are sitting or Kim Jong-un are sitting on a cloud in the distance, lighting cigars.

Celebrating, selling how much money we're making off talking about this. Yes, perfect. All right, done. That's a lot for Triggs to draw. Holy shit. Shout out Triggs, the man behind the man. Yep.

Okay, let's do some ref talk. Let's do some ref talk. Let's talk about Monday night football. Let's get into it. The Packers got gifted a win. The Lions got screwed. The refs are a problem in the NFL. People are mad.

The street, the block was hot. I feel bad for Lions fans because they do seem like they are disproportionately on the, on the shit end of the stick here. Yes. And if you don't stand up for the Lions fans eventually it's gonna come for you. Yes.

They are the first wave. They know the ref, the NFL tests out all their fucked up theories and experimental ways to cheat and get away with it on the Lions fans. And then they see really how much of a reaction is this. So my idea is they should just get rid of replay. I was gonna say just get rid of the Lions. Well that too, but get rid of replay

because the problem is I think we just need to go back in time to when we didn't have replays in football and ignorance is bliss. So they never show us the replays of the penalties or non-calls and we just sit there like idiots just eating the soup and eating, lapping up whatever they're serving us. This is great.

Yeah. Oh, there's no problems. This is an awesome call. Seriously though, because Shrave Flowers, those calls were bullshit. Yep. But they were extra bullshit when we saw them on replay and Booger was losing his mind.

You just eliminate the replay and Booger losing his mind. I feel like people would be 50% less angry. I do like Booger losing his mind though. That was kind of cool. If Booger had been in the Booger Mobile while that was going on, he would have tried to run over the refs. Yes.

He would have ghost ran the whip like Mr. March on Lynch. Was that the time that it drove out on the field? Yeah. It would have been an ugly sight, but I agree with you. I think that cameras, especially HD cameras are making a big problem for viewers because it's great to see that we just

either got screwed or won our bets in slow-mo. If they made the cameras worse, then just get rid of HD on replay. Right. I don't need to see every blade of grass. Right. I agree with that. So I also threw out a tweet on Monday night.

The block was way too hot for this tweet because it's a joke we've made a million times that if they ever do get skyjudged, if they do ever perfect refereeing in the NFL, like 90% of our conversations, day-to-day conversations will be gone because if you're a sports fan, what are the things that you can blame your team on sucking?

Not that they actually suck. You can say the kicker sucks, the coach sucks, injuries, or refs are out to get us. That's how you survive as a fan without having to admit, hey, maybe my guys aren't my guys. So if you eliminate refs, now everyone's going to have to come to the realization that, hey, maybe my guys aren't my guys, maybe my team actually sucks.

The other part that will be eliminated if we perfect refereeing, and I love this because if you are online at all, whether you're on Facebook, Twitter, wherever you are, the memes and the pictures, the arguments that come out of a bad ref night are so great, the refs doing the Lambo leap, the Matla floor giving the ref the game ball.

The one where the refs are all lined up and their jerseys read out bra. Yeah, the blind mice memes. These are the things I live for. And then on top of all that, so we have the first wave where everyone just basically slaps a Photoshop of a ref into a situation, says the ref screwed us.

Then we have basically screen grab offs where people are trying to point out plays that were miscalled, but they don't show actual replays. They just are like, hey, look at this. And it's just a random screen grab of a massive human beings in the goal line. They're like, they call this a touchdown. Or it's a-

That was huge in the Ohio State Michigan game on that fourth down. They were like, there were different angles on message boards or the parallax angle was wanted to play on it. They had one play where the Packers had 13 players on the field, that one was going everywhere. They had the Lazard touchdown where he was yard short

and his knee was down. They're like, what about this? I didn't. What about this? I like the picture. They're all fair. No, I agree, but this is what fuels Twitter. Like this is the concrete basis of Twitter

is going back and forth with rival fans about ref sucking and using just random screen grabs to prove your point, even though no one's changing their opinion. Is that and also the first way that you mentioned where it's like the ones that are kind of making fun of the people that ended up on the short stick of it? Right.

And that is part of the joy of Twitter. It's like, when you did not lose something and there's somebody else that's losing, you get to pile on that thing. Right. And then you feel like a winner by exchange. So yeah, even though I'm a Green Bay Packers owner and not a fan of the team,

I still felt like it was cool to retweet that thing about the Lambo Leap with the ref in it. Right. Because I was not losing at that point. So there's a list of potential ref problems, right? I went through like a flow chart in my brain to figure out what the issue could be. Number one, and these are really the only options

that you have, either if you think the refs suck and they're screwing your team over, either one, they're bad people and they purposely mess up to piss you off. That's number one. It's probably not that. Number two is the NFL tells them which team should win

or cover which spreads. Right. Which probably not, but maybe sometimes it's happened. Yup. And well, gambling is just gonna make this problem worse, by the way. Oh yeah. When the games are,

the outcome of the game is affected, but not the gambling math is yet. The small calls that get messed up are gonna, that's gonna be something that adds on to all this controversy. Number three, they don't have enough training. That could be a thing, right? Yeah, pay them more.

Yup. Number four is it's a hard job and all the rule changes are gonna continue to make it harder. Not easier to call games correctly. It's gonna get worse and worse. And also all the good refs are leaving for TV gigs. Okay.

And number five, given to us by your internet dad, my internet uncle who was way too high on Monday night, I don't know, he doesn't smoke weed, but he was way too high when he said, on these calls against Detroit, let's not forget the league office didn't even, oh no wait, this isn't the tweet. It was the tweet where he basically was like,

you have to wonder if this is payback for Patricia wearing the Goodell clown shirt. Yes. I mean, you do. Mike Florio is the king, sneaky, under the radar, woke king of the world. And I mean woke by, not woke politically, I'm talking about woke,

like everything is a conspiracy. Oh, he's definitely not woke to get everyone. You don't think Goodell, like. That was a joke, Mike. You don't think Goodell still has a will towards him for that? You think Goodell is an uncorrupt. But I don't think he sends like, hey, make sure you fuck

the lions over tonight. What? Okay. Do you think that's real? Yes, oh yeah. I think he makes a good point. I don't know about all that. I mean, did you see those screenshots?

Of what? Of everything, all the screenshots, all the screenshots. The refs doing the Lambo leap. By the way, did Francis see that? Cause he's definitely gonna be upset. He will absolutely. He's like, did you see the refs?

They did a Lambo leap. Is that weird though, how the NFL, like when it comes to the best officials, they're kind of like Congress people that leave and get better high paying jobs around what they used to do. I think that's a little. Like your players, your Blandinos.

Yeah. All those guys, they go into TV. Mike Carey, just bring Mike Carey back. Have him be the sky judge for every single game. Just pay the refs a shitload of money and have them have it be their full time job. And then also have their phone numbers on the back of their jerseys so we can all text them

when they fuck up. That's just one, by the way. How about that? There we go. Well, there it is. The Cardinals dead. All right, let's do some hot seat, cool throne. Then we'll get to Bill Burr.

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I had it earlier today. So good. It's really, really good. So, so good. Okay. Hot seat, cool throne. Hank. My hot seat is Josh Riddick.

Okay. The Astros right fielder was talking about the how crazy the Yankees fans are in right field and he said, there's no action taken. You look at the security guards, they're just watching, not saying a thing to anybody. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if they were the ones helping to say that.

Which I think if you're going into a three game series at that stadium. Yeah. Kind of put yourself in the hot seat a little bit. Ooh, that point. It doesn't make it easier to be in the outfield for those three games if you call out the people that you're going to be standing behind.

I love the shots of Yankee fans in the playoffs. It is so awesome. The guys, they kept on showing the same shot. The guys sitting down the line who are just banging on the pads. They're just the best. They really are. Like 45,000 fantasy fuck boys.

Right. Right. Pretty much. Fantasy fuck boys that would just scream at you, yell at you. And yeah, if they had the chance, they'd probably try to fight you. I'm Jeffrey Marin this week.

I'm starting fan interference. I fucking love it though. Because that's what like the Bronx should be like that. It should be a place where you have to fear for your life. So you're not taking away their pinstripes. No, I'm giving them extra pinstripes. You know what? The fans are the only ones who've shown up to this series.

Yeah, that was a dig at the Yankees. I've had to stall my pinstripe machine because they stink down to one. How do you feel, Hank? How should we feel as Boston sports fans? I'm rooting for the, I'm rooting for whoever makes it easier for the Nationals. Oh, there you go.

Thank you. Do you have money on them too? That would probably be the Yankees, to be honest. I would rather see the Yankees. I'd rather, it's annoying watching all these Yankees fans in the office. It's great watching them lose. So I'm just, but I would root, I'm a, a rooter of chaos. And so if it can get the Yankees to the World Series and then lose,

that would be the best situation. Okay, okay. Cool throne. My cool throne is Luke Wilson, friend of the program. Will Dillsie, Will Disley is out for the year. Ah. It's good for our friend Luke Wilson. Dude, we don't celebrate injuries.

I think Will Disley might also be a listener. Damn. Well, I mean, that has nothing to do with, I'm sorry. Well, if you're listening, I'm sorry. I hope you get better. I hope you have a full recovery and come back better than ever. But Luke Wilson's time to shine. Yeah.

And it's more, I, like it was great. Uh, they scored a touchdown and he was on like a hot mic to being like, fuck yeah, fuck yeah, dude, let's fucking go. You know what, we're, this year we've been having a little tight end off in terms of NFL tight ends using part of my take content. So Luke wore the shirt on hard knocks. Yep. George Kittle is talking Canadian all over the sidelines,

getting picked up by having films. Yep. Dabbing. And that's, yeah, that's your thing. Yeah. Uh, so everyone's American. It's America's the people's, the people on the. So I am, I am excited for Will.

I'm looking forward to seeing him. I'm excited for Luke. Uh, I'm not excited for you, Will. Excited for your recovery, Will. Yeah. I didn't know he was a listener. So now I'm a huge Will Disley fan. I'm, I, he's going to get back and better than ever.

Okay. Did you just assume he was a listener? No, I think he follows me. Oh, okay. Yeah. Oh, wow. If you're a white NFL tight end, then assume that you're a listener. Cameron Brate.

Yeah. Yeah. That's true. Cameron Brate, you just named a guy. Another guy that's a listener. All right, go ahead. My hot seat is philosophy. Okay.

Putting philosophy on the hot seat big time this week, because, uh, Michael Bennett of the Patriots, he got suspended for a game. By old Bert. By old Bert Bleelmah for getting into no altercation with him at practice on Friday. And Bennett's explanation of it was he got into a philosophical disagreement.

So you can leave that up to whatever interpretation that you would like, but, uh, Jerry Jones also said today that he, if he differed entirely in philosophy with Jason Garrett, then Jason wouldn't be the head coach implying that he did differ somewhat in philosophy. So a lot of philosophy being talked about this week. The philosophy that they don't differ in is that Jason Garrett is Jerry Jones lap dog will do whatever he says.

That's true. That philosophy has always been the basis of their relationship. That's day one stuff. You get like your freshman, your freshman year and your intro to philosophy program, that and the, the aero paradox that we always talk about. It's like you're, it's like having a friend and maybe you get a little older and you don't have the same interests, but you can always fall back on something that you, you know, loved when you were like hardcore friends.

They can always fall back on the fact that Jason Garrett will say, yes, Jerry. Yes, sir. And then sit on his lap and clap like a maniac. Yeah. Also, I don't think that Brett knows what philosophy is. No, no. Am I wearing, am I really wearing this shirt? No.

No, absolutely not. He's a realist. Yeah. My cool throne is Hank because Hank did his taxes. Congratulations to Hank. Thank you. Way to go, man. I'm happy for you.

You know, people always do the like after taxes thing. It's like, yeah, it's not that much after taxes. No one could, no one could ever do that to Hank's paycheck because he never did taxes to begin with until now. So congratulations on getting on the right side of the law. Tip of the cap to you, YP. It was a well thought series by my team. YP just came in the room.

Yeah. So yeah, putting that, putting Hank on the cool throne. Also, cool throne. You know, it's like, I feel just like it's great walking around as a citizen again, you know, I got a different pep in my stuff. Were you afraid like every time you saw a police officer that they'd like ask for your ID at some point and get thrown in jail like Wesley Snipes? No, because I'm, and I found, I mean, I did like I get the most taken out of my

paycheck. So I was pretty sure that if I just did my tax return, I probably got money back. So that's why I was never that worried about not doing them because it was like, I'm, I'm just giving away. Did you get money back? I got a little money back. Oh, see, you, you have been like missing out on getting money back. But I agree with you.

Right. That's what I'm saying. I wasn't like, I wasn't like, I wasn't like dodging my taxes. I just was. There's always a formula, like how many forms do I have to fill out? How much money does equal? And it's like 15 forms for $200. Not worth it. No, thank you.

Also a little pro tip. Everyone out there always file for extension so that you can fill out your taxes in October, because then you get your paycheck towards the end of football season when you probably owe your bookies some money. So a little tip there for you guys. My other cool throne is rest versus rust arguments because now the Nats are going to have like a week off. Yep.

But I feel like that's probably not as big a difference in baseball because you don't really get like, you don't really. It's also way better. Oh, you get rusty. Do you? Yeah. Because when you're playing, you don't see fastballs. Because when you can go out there and you can track, you can track fastballs.

Also, there's a baseball game speed is basically sitting on your couch, spitting on yourself. But you get over, see the problem that you're going to have with baseball rest versus rust is you get pitchers that their arms get extra rest. They get out of like a rhythm and then they're throwing a little too hard and they lose their control. It is a problem that the national starting pitchers have been thrown. Probably every once every three games, like if you're a starting pitcher,

you come in and relief all the time. Well, don't have a bullpen. Here's the thing, the Astros are going to win the next two games and win that series four to one. So they'll both have some rest. OK, I think the I think the World Series is a set start. What is it? Wednesday, Thursday, Tuesday, game one, very cool.

OK, my hot seat is soccer in America because we lost to Canada first time since 1985. Sorry. Yikes. That's not just when you think it couldn't get worse. Pucille lose to Canada. I don't know, man, I'm kind of. I'm done with the U.S. soccer until they start fucking just doing anything.

Chain them. Listen. Chain. Listen. On U.S. men's soccer. It used to be like, you know, they are like, oh, we don't win the World Cup. We're never going to world cup. But now we're getting embarrassed by Canada. And I'm sure someone will be like, well, we were playing our fucking under nineteen bros or something.

I don't care. I'm done being embarrassed. I want them to be good. Maybe the NBA will get canceled over this whole thing. And all the players will have to play soccer and then we might have a chance. Can you buy U.S. soccer? I should buy them. I mean, I'm a great soccer owner.

Yeah, I feel like that probably take on only in the second league. Well, then, yeah, if you bought U.S. soccer, just only pay the female players until the swans at the top of the shittier league. Yeah, they are. It's called the championship league. Top of the table. It's called the championship league. Grace and Alan would be a great soccer player. Would championship league be referred to as shitty in your mind?

I don't think so. Yeah. When you put it like that, pretty good. But I like that. All right. My cool throne is jail and Ramsey Blake Bortles relationship because jail and Ramsey got traded to the Rams. Well, I just realized that. Yeah. No, a lot of people were making that joke. That's pretty funny. That's very Ramsey.

Yeah. That's very funny. They didn't get traded to the chiefs. No, it's OK to not. But I was to bring that up. Jalen Ramsey, Jalen Ramsey and Blake Bortles are on a good relationship because remember Jalen Ramsey, when he went off on all of the quarterbacks last year, he was very, he had a lot of praise for Blake. He said, Blake, do what he got to do.

I think in crunch time moments like last year's playoff game, not as a team because we would have trusted him. But I think as an organization, we should have trusted him more to keep throwing it. We got complacent and conservative. That's a fact. You got to let Blake sling it. Also, I went back and I read those comments by Jalen Ramsey. He started the entire quarterback roast. Remember when he went down the list with,

I think Marcus Marriott is a great quarterback for their team. I think Tyrone Taylor is actually a better quarterback than he gets credit for because he does not make mistakes. He's honestly a Marcus Marriota type player. He hasn't thrown an interception like a year. And the news is Marcus Marriott just got officially benched. That's Jalen Ramsey. What do you say about Mitch?

I don't think he got to know. I did look up what he said about Jared Gough. Because yeah, he didn't really go in on Jared. He said that Jared, his first year wasn't good. I think Jared would agree with you on that one. But then they got a new offense installed and now he's very good at what he has to do. So I think that I no real like strain in that relationship just yet. But I do feel bad for Jason Ramsey because as Hank brought up,

Jalen Ramsey, I kind of like that. As Hank brought up earlier, Jason and Mason, Jason Ramsey. He's not going to be able to Jason Gough and Jared Ramsey. Los Angeles is a long way from Nashville, where his girlfriend is still in labor. How many times can the Rams go all in there? And I think the Rams are just making up first round picks. I is actually genius.

They just keep like, if you just who would stop him, who would actually check if the Rams traded the twenty twenty one first round pick twice as McVeigh have a long deal. I think so. Yeah. But who would stop them? If you just kept on saying to everyone, I'm going to give you my twenty twenty one first round, my twenty twenty three first round pick. Just give it to like six teams.

I feel like that's one of those catch me if you can things. The paper trail would take a while for people to catch up. It has to go through the league office first. Well, yeah, oh, yeah, they're real smart. Yeah, start making up compics that they don't have. Yeah, exactly. We're getting a comp pick. Yeah, we got to judge in the NFL League office to make sure that all the picks exist.

I.O.U.s that say pick. I think we uncovered exact. That's the new build the process. Trust the process is just make up draft picks. Imagine if we had like a Ponzi scheme type of made off situation and Sean McVeigh like in five years, like how did we not know? He traded. He traded his first round pick seventeen times. There's an American read on the rim.

Scouting for like four years ago and be like, oh, it's going to wait a second. Wait, hold on a second. He doesn't have this pick seven different ways. There are so many people out there that are in NFL draft Twitter. Like the NFL draft industrial complex. Yeah, there's a guy that knows exactly where all the picks are allocated right now because it's one of those things that when you throw a pick out there that's more than two years away or even one year away.

I'm just like, that's never. Can you trade like a twenty thirty pick? Sure. No, I think that's what I would do. There is a limit. I would do that. I would just mortgage. And I think there's a limit. I think they put in like an idiot set an idiot like proof thing

where you can't trade. You can't trade all your first round picks. OK, so if there's a certain amount of first round picks, you can you can give up at a certain time. OK, you can't be like, hey, we won't have a first round pick. I think actually I think the Knicks made that for all sports. That was just the rule that they said. We're going to protect you from yourself.

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It is Bill Burr. What's up, guys? Thanks for thanks for coming by. Good to have you back. Thank you for having me. I still can't freaking hear myself. You can't hear yourself. I can't. I'm old, though. You look. Hello, hello, hello, hello, hello.

You look like you've lost a lot of weight for your age. For your age. Yeah, it's all qualified at this age. Yes, I can. OK, thank you. You look very good. You look. Thank you. What have you been doing? Later. What's your?

Yeah, what's your what's your tip? I quit boozing like a year ago. Yeah, I saw a year ago drunk at the Michigan game hammered making Instagram videos, making Instagram is I'm sorry. November, November 24th. Not like I'm like a sober guy. Yeah, I was just, you know, I was getting, you know, I was having a couple of two, three and I just started bugging

bothering me once I had a kid. I'm like, I have a baby upstairs toddler who's sleeping right now and I am legally hammered. Yeah, not drunk. Was hammered. Was that an after Thanksgiving decision you made or before Thanksgiving? You know, it's funny. The last night, the last day I drank, I was watching Michigan, Ohio State.

So I was drinking this stuff. Kentucky Owl. Oh, I do. I recommend that. It was delicious. And I remember saying to my friend as I was drinking my last one, I was going, dude, I'm never fucking quitting. I was having that much fun. And then the next day, I was just like, I need to go on a little bit of a

you know, and you need to kind of put yourself in dry dock for a second. So I was just like, and I'm like, God damn it. It's the holidays. How do you do that during the holidays? It's so hard. And I just went on a little bit of a streak and I went to this party and we were all going to do a shot. We were going to have some bourbon.

We were going to smoke cigars and it just so happened. A commotion, you know, it was it wasn't just a bunch of guys. It was women, too, and kids and stuff. So there was just too much of a commotion. It never happened. And then I got into double digits and I was just like, well, let me just see if I can go through Christmas. And then and then once I got through New Year's Day, going to the road,

I go to Rose Bowl every year and get loaded, right? Football Heaven. Yes. So I was just like, I'm not drinking this year. And then I just I just started telling people, I'm not drinking this year. I'm not drinking this year. And it's it's easy now, but it sucked for like the first three, four months. It just sucks. But if you create that rule, I think it's like if you just say,

I'm not drinking this year, people respect it. Like I made a rule to myself because, you know, when we go out, like, there'll be a bunch of people, stoolies who will say, oh, can I buy you a beer? Can I buy you a shot? I made a rule like five years ago, no shots. So people will come up and say, hey, can I buy you a shot? I'm like, no, I don't do shots. Yeah. And if you just say it as point blank like that, you if you say like,

oh, not right now, like, come on, what's your problem? You know, I don't do shots. Yeah. I'm not drinking this year. So you've gone the whole year. Yeah. Shots are for amateurs, by the way. Shots are just they get you in trouble. They're like pressing fast forward on your night. Yeah. You know, they're getting near to your final destination

a little bit quicker. But don't you feel like you don't quite know where that how far ahead you leap though. That's kind of what I like about it. There's no. There's no. Yeah, yeah. I should say it's for younger people. Right. Yeah. You know, it's for the sit in and just, you know, nice, you know,

initial ascent to your cruising altitude. That's that's when you know that's that's a day drinker knows how to drink. But then you guys are like the stunt pilots. That's throwing them down inverted and all that. I don't I don't I did that bedspins. I'm all I'm all set. Yeah. That's when you know that you're drinking like your best drinking days are behind you when the act of getting drunk is more fun than being drunk.

Like the flight up. This is a sophistication to it. Right. You're like, ah, it's nice catching the buzz. Once I'm buzzed, I'm like, I am the thinking man's drunk. Yes. It's also a problem. Once you get past beer four, I'd say I just start thinking about the hangover. That's going to come the next day. I'll do it. It totally ruins my drunk experience,

which is why I do shots, because that way I don't have to think that much in advance about the hangover. I'm just already drunk and I'm like, oh, shit, well, I'm fucked tomorrow. I actually understand that. But the impending doom of the hangover. Once I turned 30, at least that for me was like the tipping point where getting drunk is usually not even worth it. It's not fun enough to outweigh what I'm going to be feeling the next day.

I guess it's amazing that you figured that out by 30. It took me to have a kid. Wow. Yeah. No, it's not even 50. I had to have a kid if I have a kid right now, I would be hung over and about 30 pounds heavier. I told you before we started, I went to the dentist for the first time in four years after I was like, I should probably figure out, you know,

some of these things and try to be an adult. Death comes from the mouth for a minute. It does. That's actually that. I think that's how like the Roman Empire went down. It's all mouth fucked each other until they died. I think it was of what they consumed. Oh, it was the pipe. It was 11. It wasn't just the jazz.

Yeah, it was. So it's like Cinebuns. The Cinebuns took out Caesar feeding themselves to lions. That was the problem, too. French fries. It was over. My my big problem, whenever I've tried to take a little time off drinking, is if I show up at a social function or a party and I don't have anything in my hand, it just feels like, you know,

I got to be carrying something. It's like maybe it's a crutch, you know, just to have. Oh, it's weird walking around with that in your hand. It makes you feel more comfortable. It's a new it's a new skill set you have to develop. And then it's actually fun. Watching people having a good time, getting hammered is fun. It's like watching a reality show.

Like he's going to have to apologize for that and like, wow, this person didn't seem that drunk and they just told me the same story. They sent me two nights ago to same story and person seemed pretty sober. And they told me what they did for a living and why they don't like it twice within a half hour. That's their go to story when they're just bring everybody. I don't know what it was. No, it's just sort of, I guess, meshed with what we were talking about.

We had literally just talked about it. Like, if it was an old person, I'd be like, oh, no, yeah, like dementia or something. Put Nana down. Yeah. Didn't know. Did you say that to him? Where you're like, hey, man, you told me the story last time. I'm not going to ruin that good time. I just listen like it was the first time. I mean, I'd be so hypocritical if I did that the third time.

No, what I do is you start drifting. You just sort of drift or you finish the story for him. Yeah, you're like, oh, we're seeing wavelength. It's like, I know, I know how this movie is. Yeah, they think you're a mind reader. Yeah, right. No, I don't like. I am a big, as much as I talk and make fun of younger people and everything, I am a big proponent in letting young people have their good time.

And just because it's over for you to then come in, I'm going to tell you, you better watch out for that because X, Y and Z. It's like, shut up, old man. Let me figure that. Let me feel that sharp pain in my liver myself. I agree with you there because it's I can't stand people who get into their thirties, forties, fifties, and they just forget what being twenty two was and how everyone was a shithead. I don't know anyone who was twenty two and wasn't a shithead.

Oh, or most parents, most parents, what they'll send their kid to school. And it's like, he's going to get the shit kicked out of him. Don't go muted colors. He doesn't want to stand out. Right. It'd be funny. Next time an old guy starts telling you what's going to happen. If you keep drinking like that, you just yell at spoiler alert. Yeah, I think it's better to be.

Enjoy this episode. It's way better to be a shithead when you're twenty two and you don't have any power. You don't have enough money to get yourself in serious trouble. And it is to have all your shit together throughout your 20s. Then you turn 30. You're established. Maybe you've got a couple of dollars in your pocket. And then you turn into a shithead.

You're much more dangerous at that point in life. Well, that's why I try not to make fun of pop stars and stuff. I still do. But like you get all that money. You got a fucking Lamborghini when you're twenty one riding around with your shirt off McDonald's and you still got abs. I mean, who can tell you anything? Yeah, if you've been if you've ever been around someone, I'm sure you you have that has been famous for the majority of their life.

They're just not going to be normal. You don't mean someone who is famous when they were 17 years old. Oh, have I been around someone like that? I'm sure you have. You're Hollywood Bill. Like, OK, for example, a rod. That's my NASCAR. Hollywood Bill. Hollywood Bill. He ain't stopping for nothing.

Think about a guy like a rod who was famous. He was drafted, you know, one one first overall. So he was essentially famous when he was 17, 18 years old. So for the last twenty two years, he has been a rod. I think you have to give a little bit to those type of people being like their world's not the same. Like what a second act that guy's had. Yeah, becoming an analysis.

It's just like I love this guy doing podcasts, doing podcasts. Well, that's right. He's been he's on your show. That's right. Sorry. Sorry. My fault. My fault. No, you don't have to apologize. Second act he's had. He's finally working with you. There we go. Come up. Let's let's how annoying

has the press tour for Paper Tiger been because everyone's like, hey, Bill, what do you think about cancel culture? There's been moments of that and then mostly not. And it's funny. I found more guys talking about it than the female reporters or whatever. And I did. I guess I did a radio tour and there was just one person by the third one, some woman was doing a radio thing.

And she was just like, so you did it. Royal Albert Hall in London. How much fun was that? It looked beautiful. I'm like, finally, somebody you get it. Yeah, it was just all about, you know, having a good time and trying a new venue and taking a chance by going over there. And most of the special was about me being an idiot and trying to clean up my act. So I don't, you know, screw up this great thing that I have with my wife and kids.

So. But that's not what the media. I had nine questions about PC culture for you. Most people, most people, I mean, I'm sure you guys exist in the same sort of world that I do, that there's this, you know, there's this one thing that's being asked. And then there's what people are really feeling. So it's sort of this weird, like I was compared to the last election, where they sort of misread where people were at.

I understand why the cancer culture people are doing what they're doing. Their hearts are in the right place. It's just the the the way that they're going about it execution. Yeah. And it's just like, you know, telling a stupid joke is a long, long ways away from taking your dick out at work. I mean, I think I could say that, right? So I don't know how you somehow get lumped into that. Where it's just like, how could you, right in front of all those adults?

Right. Watch online or poor and tell that shit joke. I think the mediums in which people are disagreeing now actually has a very big effect on this because it could just be a disagreement. Somebody would be like, Hey, I didn't like that joke, and that should be the end of it. But if it's a famous person or somebody with a check mark tweeting, Hey, I didn't like that joke to a comedian. All of a sudden, now it becomes a story and there are blogs written about it. I have to be honest.

And you can disagree with people about what's funny, what's appropriate, what's not, but it didn't used to have that long tail on. It's not really even at this point even worth talking about anymore. I think it's it's sort of adjusting back. And I think it was bad in the beginning that all people were doing what they were doing and there was no way to tell people about it. Now there is, there was a little bit of an overcorrection. And I think it's just going to come, you know, the pendulum has swung back to it.

But I know they can't go all the way back just to like more of a, you know, you don't listen to people for hundreds of years or something. The cork has to fly off the bottle first and then it's got to swing all the way this way. And then it's got to gradually, you know, come back to like, you know, a place where now you're aware that this stuff goes on. You're going to listen to people and then you'll take the proper channels to figure out if whatever went down, went down and then it did. These are the punishments and then that's it.

But other than that, that has nothing to do with being a standup comedian. OK, so how was Royal Albert Hall and you are a venue guy? You've been to venues not only as a standup comedian, but we talked last time you're on about all the different stadiums you've been to. Where does it rank? Oh, Jesus. It would have been great if you were like 57. I have 57 and I'll tell you what.

I would say that one was that one was probably the top just because. It was past Carnegie. Can't believe I can have this conversation with you. It was past that in that it was another country's Carnegie and all those people showed up and I was taping this special and it just the whole thing. The way it worked out and like the way Mike Binder shot the thing. It was really like everything just came together that night. So I would say I would say that.

But there's there's different reasons to like a venue. I would say the first rough and rowdy that I did with you. Yes, is one of the top venues because that's the House of Rick Flare Bill. So there's different reasons to like stuff. Where was that? Charlotte? Charlotte, North Carolina. Yes. Well, you know what? I was just watching. I didn't have time to see where it was was I was watching every like four years. I watched The Undertaker versus Mankind the hell in the cell.

Yes. And just as far as working a crowd for at all costs when Mankind gets up off the stretcher. I thought he died. Yeah. And when and I totally bought in. Yeah, I totally bought in that. Even every time I watch it, he sells it so hard, you buy in, you know, he's still got her. But when he gets back up and slowly starts picking up speed and has that crazy smile, does that rumble? I every time I watch it, die, laughing, applauding,

yes, going, this is working a crowd at such a masterful level. And even like you watch how The Undertaker, when he really knows he hurts him, he'll take a couple of bumps to give him a break or miss a move. Just the the artistry of what went on that night. And like, I just love people that like make fun of wrestling. Like, you know, it's fake. It's like, you know, a movie's fake. But if it's done right, right, you go along for the ride. Yes. And like, I don't, man,

I don't think it's ever been done better than that. So whatever. And I was thinking, was that in Mellon Arena? Was that where the Penguins used to play? I think so. Yeah. The Eagle, right? That's cool. So well, because it was in Pittsburgh and I'm thinking how big wrestling was. I don't know where it is right now, but how big was then? That was when the Rock and Stone Cold and everybody. So they were playing, you know, all the arenas.

Also, the place for was at Jean-Claude Van Dammeau's Jean-Claude Van Dammeau movie, the face off. No, not face off. Not face off. That was Travolta. The movie where they were team where they were playing since Rodman. No, they had to like stop a bomb at the igloo, a hockey game. Shit. I don't know. All right. I think you just wrote a movie.

It sounds good. You know, some people. Yeah. Can we get that made? I don't know. But I love how you guys how into the system. You guys think I am Hollywood. You know, hey, I'm an I'm in a green light. A couple of projects were your track suit that made you look like, oh, I just put this on. We know you got a tuxedo under that.

Now, there's a reason I'm wearing this. I'm finally doing my two of my buddies got a podcast that historical hyenas and they're like Bay Ridge, Brooklyn guy. So what a homage to them. And then I was coming up here. I'm like, oh, wait, you got that track suit, July, January, January. Yeah, July, January. Yeah. So I was just like, oh, it looks good.

Yeah, it's very comfortable. It always, whenever you wear a track suit, everyone's it you kind of carry like, I don't know, like a weight to you where everyone looks at you. Like, what's that guy's I was walking on the street. Yeah, like a little book making. Yeah, there's a scumbaggery. You got some you get up your level of respect. Plast also brings it down on an evil level.

But no fuck with you. Yeah. Like you could you just walk around. You're just walking into a Starbucks and everyone's like, OK, well, women are like, I'm not dating that guy. And guys are like, I'm not fucking with that guy. But you're getting what you want. You're getting a reaction. I also think if you're rocking a track suit, yeah,

somebody does think you're up to something. I was walking past a dude this morning, he was standing on the stoop of a barbershop, just smoking a cigarette and a track suit. And I was like, that guy's running numbers. I'm convinced of it. I'm going to have the wife be around. He doesn't have a job,

but he's got a really strong side hustle, yeah, which is almost more intimidating. Yeah, I want to talk. And he's winning because he's out on a stoop in the middle of the day. Everybody's hustling to work. He's having a cigarette. He's chilling, chilling. Yeah, no where to be.

He's on his own time. Something to aspire to. Can we agree? Yes, we can agree. Yes, I want to talk real quick about doing your special in England. What was your decision making process? Why were you like, I want to go overseas to film this?

Because I plan on doing a bunch of these. And each one has to be a little bit different or it just becomes, I don't know, too much of the same thing, I would think. So I've done some in the West Coast, the East Coast. I did a couple down South. It's like, where do I do this next one? It was a big risk because so much of it was about here.

Obviously, I live here and I was just like... But I always wanted to perform there and I performed there last year. And I went up there and I'm such a Zeppelin fan and I love John Bonham and stuff. And that's my favorite concert footage of theirs at Royal Albert Hall. And it still basically looks the exact same.

And that when I did that first show last year, as much as I had a good set and I had a good time, the whole time I wasn't quite present because I was like, oh my God, this is it. I am on stage here. John Bonham's drums were right there. I'm standing where Robert Plant was. I couldn't get out of my head.

I felt like I had one like a radio contest. Go meet your favorite football player and you totally clam up and don't know what to say. And so it felt a little bit like that. So, but afterwards, and my reps all came over because they wanted to check out the place. And then they were all kind of like, this fucking place is beautiful, obviously.

I'm Americans, right? I never heard of this place, right? This place is beautiful. You should do, especially me. And I was like, do you think I could? And they were like, yeah. And it scared the shit out of me because I knew I had this great hour and I was like,

what if coming over here fucks the whole thing up? But I just, I couldn't resist how good looking it was. So I had this healthy sense of excitement and fear going the whole way over. And I just did some tune up gigs before I went over there because you just have to get into their vibe. Well, I did the Liverpool gig first where I got this hat. I lose hats all the time.

This one I've been hanging on to for a minute. So I did that one first and that was a good show. And then the next one went okay. And then the next one was good. Then the next one was good. And then the next one was great. So it's kind of, it's always kind of a, the first one always goes well because I'm just,

okay, I'm in England, right? Fuck it, boom, I do it or I'm wherever. But then the next one you go on stage and you're like, okay, how did I do this last night? So now you're not present. So it just puts you like that half a beat behind and then it starts not going well. And then because you're in England,

rather than it's being like, all right, I need to fucking get this going. You start taking like, oh fuck, I was last night lucky. Did they not find me funny in England? And then you can start doing the death spiral. So there was a little bit of that for a few minutes, but I've just been doing it long enough to know how to get out of that.

So you still do go into that every now and then? Oh, absolutely, absolutely. The night, we taped back-to-back nights instead of doing two and one night. What you wanna do is two and one night because you do your little BP on the first one and then the second one you swing out of your cleats. And then usually how I do it is I take the better of the two

and then there's always something I gotta cut out because it goes too long. So what I use, it's almost like a parts car. If you watch those guys where they say buy two and they just cannibalize all the parts, you just take like two little clips so you can take something out and just stick that because I don't wanna have like jumping back and forth

because even if people don't know you did that, it's gonna feel that, because all crowds have a different vibe and it's like you're gonna be like, left speaker, right speaker, left speaker, right speaker. It's gonna fuck it up. So you have to, it's gotta seem like have a flow to it, I think, so I don't know.

That's basically how I want that. You gotta change in your stuff up when you go overseas. There's certain things that you can't talk about in London that they won't understand that might be part of your normal act in America. If I was to just walk down the street and talk to somebody in London, yes. If you're going to my show at this point,

because I've been over there enough times, they're into what I do. So all I'm taking is a couple thousand people that listen to the podcast and get me. They come in there, but that is not a good indication of if I was just to stand out on the street and just pull a crowd in a park like a street performer, there would be a lot of people like,

like they wouldn't have any idea what I was talking about. Not like totally, but yeah, but like, yeah. So there was a few things I had to change. Like instead of saying Steadman, I had to say Oprah Winfrey's husband, which ended up actually being funnier because I wasn't even doing the man the respect of saying his name.

Right, that's disrespectful. That's like calling her Zach Erich's wife. Right. Yeah, it became more absurd. The whole thing became more absurd. And fortunately, most people who watched it really got it. And, you know, and then it's just a normal. I didn't like it, so I didn't watch it.

And then there's the, I loved it. So I watched it. And then the stuff we were talking about earlier. Right. I didn't like it. Therefore you should change the whole thing so I can enjoy it next time. Change everything about it.

Yes. Where was the college football trip this year? It's this weekend. It's Clemson, which I was so excited about, but Florida State stinks. Yeah. Clemson's a little weird. That's one of those bands.

Oh, it's Clemson. Have you been? Oh. Spoiler alert. Tallahassee? No, I liked it. I liked it. There's a rock.

Didn't I? I came here. I was in a good mood, you know? You know what? I liked it. You loved it. I took time off. Wait, you're going to Clemson.

From my tremendously busy Hollywood schedule of green lighting things. I liked it. I should say that. In my track suit. I liked it. That's, you know, like, you guys big on the pizza here. Never tell somebody where you're excited

to go get a slice from. Don't ever fucking do it. Someone's going to ruin it for you. OK, here's something. Do you have any people Hollywood bill? Do you know anyone at Clemson that can take you through the facility? Oh, I will be, like, brought in through beneath the stadium

on a Zeppelin. Yeah. That's how fucking hell it is. Underground Zeppelin. OK, well, I'll hook you up with, like, the guy who, because the facility is unbelievable. Like, they have this football facility that is just, it's insane.

Basically, instead of paying the players, they put a bowling alley and all these perks in there to be like, hey, isn't this fun? It's like, well, it wouldn't be fun if they got paid. But I like Clemson. I shouldn't have said that. I fucked up. All right, so what, what?

You miss, you misspoke. Yeah, misspoke. That was a totally, you know what? It was because I bet on Clemson and they didn't cover the spread. That's why I didn't like Clemson. Yeah, you had, you had a little, a little extra grind. But you're mature enough now that you're a father.

It was too hot. See? Yeah, I am mature now. It was too hot there when I went. But it's going to be nice and cool. It's going to be mid-October. You're going to be beautiful. It's going to be great.

It's going to be great. Thank you. What, what are the most recent when we last had? I believe 80% of that. When you, when you had, I'll tell you after, when you had, we last had you on, you had almost all of the stadiums. Have you picked up any new ones?

Oh, all the pro ones? Yeah. I have. It's incredible. It's like a streak that I just love to talk about. Because I love going to stadiums. There's some rich guy who's been to all. Marlins, man.

Marlins is his name. We don't. Do you know Marlins? Does he have his own, does he have his own plane? Oh, I'm sure he does. Oh, you talked about. You got your own plane, man. That's like the PEDs that go to every stadium.

Come on. That's not fair. You got to earn it. You got to send middle seat on a DC9. Come on. He's the guy that'll buy out like an entire Southwest airline and just ride on his own. So what have you picked up?

I'll he'll do that. Like Vince Young style. Yeah. That's kind of cool. But you still can't lay down. That's true. I guess you do the three roads. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

What, what are you asking? Which ones have you picked up recently? Because it, so for people who don't know who maybe didn't hear the first time Bill was on, he goes in all his travels, stand up, you know, comedy, working on movies, Hollywood Bill. Hollywood Bill. He tries to hit a stadium every time he goes to a new city.

And you have been to almost every single stadium in all the four major sports. I've seen, yeah, a home game of almost every team. OK, because a few people like, I've been to a home game of the Phillies, but it was the vet. I've still never got to the new one. So there's a little bit of that going on. But all the baseball, all the football, all the hockey,

except three. And I got six or seven basketball, like just a couple of tough cities. Like I've only played Memphis and New Orleans a couple of times. So trying to not only play there and sink it up when the Grizzlies and Pelicans have a game has been a little bit tough. And then once a year, I go to a big college football game.

I've been to college hoop, racing, Formula One, MotoGP next year. Have you done Duke for basketball? Yes, Duke Carolina. I need to do that. Oh my god, dude. Yeah. That was almost on par with the first time

I went to a Super Bowl. The Patriots were in, and they won. Because I went when they lost to the Packers. Then I went when they beat the Rams the first time. But that was just like people standing the whole time. I came out. My ears were ringing like I'd saw a concert. It was fucking.

It's a smaller ring, right? It's like $5,000, $7,000. Camden indoor. It is like, as far as a sports experience, excuse me, just belched there. It's definitely, it's an overused term, but it is, Mecca is something that's a rung. Well, what about Fog Island in Kansas?

Yeah, Mecca. I always love that. It's a basketball Mecca. People from around the globe gathered to kick the Knicks ass. Five times a day. I'll leave five. Because Knicks fans think that that means the Knicks are amazing.

It's like, no, it doesn't. It just means everybody dreams of playing in New York City because of the parks. Not in what happened, all those in the rap songs. They always talk about that one up there, the fucking. Did I say rap songs? That's how I was like. In all the rap tunes, they're always

saying about the lyrics about the Bronx. About the Bronx. Ruger, park, or something like that. But nobody's really, you're not really talking about it. It's a pretty good sign. As a Cubs fan, it's like, it's a pretty good sign. If your team stinks, you're probably talking about how awesome your stadium is.

Yeah. That's really kind of the sign. Or your jerseys or something. The more your franchise stinks, the more music and zaniness on the field in between plays. Yep. I went to the Patriots Redskins yesterday, which I love that stadium because it's

this weird hybrid of old and new. It sucks. I love that stadium. You love FedEx Field? Yeah. You had a seat that wasn't behind a giant cement pillar. I know. I'm sitting on Dan Stryder's lap.

No. No, no, no. I actually, Hollywood Bill came in and was a man of the people. But I was, and I was talking to some dude next to me, totally not Hollywood. I was so proud of myself. Yeah.

You just didn't see how the other half lives. No, but what it was, was the fucking speaker, the shit they were pumping out, was literally they were playing Twisted Sister and a guy was yelling like that Sunday, Sunday, Sunday voice over it. Yep. And then this guy, who knew the game. That's why I liked him, was shouting.

It becomes like when you're in a bar and you're hitting on some chicken, you're just screaming in her ear and then she's yelling in your ear. I had my teeth hurt because my ears are fucked from all the years of listening to loud music. So I went out to go get a water and get away from the speaker and then I came back and just kind of stood in the middle.

And he probably thought, oh, he's being Hollywood Bill. Right. It's sort of like, it's like two personalities, like the Hulkster has, you know what I mean? Yeah. When I die, my beard black. That's what I'm a man of the people. The red, the red is Hollywood Bill.

Something they don't talk about enough in that stadium because you always hear about Seattle, they pump in the crowd noise, right? Like that's what Pete Carroll has been doing for years. At FedEx Field, they have a live marching band inside the stadium sits in the end zone. They just leave the microphones on the band when like in between plays until the ball snapped.

So you hear the crowd cheering, but it's just, oops, we forgot to turn the microphone, the lapel mic off the trombone player. Yeah, it works very well for them. What it is, it's the design. Yes. How they designed it. It's just like, it's like a music venue,

but rather than getting a great sound for the band, like I went there like pre-game, people chatting in the crowd was loud. Yeah. It was crazy. Like I was looking, if somebody brought a baby and I was sitting there going, I hope they got like those weed whacker.

The Drew Brees. Yeah, thanks. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So pictures from that game, was it really as heavy in New England as it looked on TV? Yeah, it looked like, I wouldn't say it looked like you were in Foxboro, but it more looked like when Jacksonville,

when they have the big cocktail game between, was it Florida and LSU? Florida and Georgia. Yeah, LSU. Yeah, Georgia, that's what it is. Yeah, so it looked like that. It was like sort of half the stadium was Pat's fans and stuff. So I try not to be obnoxious and be a dick

when I go to other people's stadiums. My team's really winning like we were. I'm not going to sit there and clap it up. Thank you, Pat. Whenever I see that, I just say that person kind of deserves to get the shit kicked out of me. Yeah, so what would be if you had to pick your favorite stadium in each sport, like your number one, what would it be?

Oh, great question. You can't do your own teams. Oh, no, you can't. Well, you know what? You don't appreciate your own stadiums because you grew up. And I can never quite appreciate Fenway because to me, like everybody's like, oh my god, I went there in the green monster.

But it's just like, I always saw that. And I thought that that's what a ballpark looked like for the most part. So baseball. All right, well, there's different categories. Oh, OK. I love stadiums. OK, I'll tell you what was a great one, just off the road.

OK, going diners, drive-ins, and dives here. I'm going to say county stadium Milwaukee Brewers. And first of all, what I loved about that stadium was they still had the beer keg. Back in the day, every time they hit a home run, they had some big titted blonde wood slide down a slide into this alleged bucket of beer. Like America, you know what I mean?

So she was gone by then. But just like the design, like I don't just looking, like all the guts of it were hanging out. And this is the way they added on to it and stuff. Where they filmed Major League. Yeah, oh, is that where they filmed this? Yeah, that one, old Tiger Stadium was great. I love the overhang.

Yeah, and I sat there. Oh, my god. I sat right field because I wanted to be in the overhang with the short porch or whatever they used to call it. That was a great one. The Astrodome, knowing that Mickey Mantle hit his last home run there.

Elvis played there. Earl Campbell, that Monday Night Football game. I saw one there. These as far as like the old ones, the cookie cutter ones that were going away. Candlestick was just a great, miserable, punishing place to go see a game. Just freezing your muscles.

Right on the water, yeah. I always remember this week in baseball, they'd be like hot dog rappers just swirling around in the outfield. But as far as like the newer ones, I'd have to say that the best new one that I went to is Pittsburgh. Yeah, I agree. It's just the view of the bridges.

I love the Pirates of 79 was one of my favorite teams of all time. It's just a shame their ownership is just running it like the Nestle Corporation. I like that whole downtown area too, where you got Heinz Field right next to the Casino Park. But they got the Casino there too. They got everything right down to.

And the bridges. The comeback of that city since I've been going there just on the road has been incredible, where it's like it was when I started going there in the late 90s, it was still the hangover of the whole steel industry and all the stuff went away. It was before the tech boom. And the downtown was like desolate.

It was scary. And it was just, I don't know, it wasn't a lot of action going on downtown. And I went to old, that's one's three rivers. I went to that. I saw Willie Stardale right before he died. They did some commemorative thing to him. Sammy Sosa was on the Cubs.

I remember I sat in right field. So he was right there. It was a year after 98. That was cool. What about hockey? What's the best barn? I can't say the Boston Garden. I took a tour of Maple Leafs Gardens.

That was cool before they took out all the seats and fucked that thing up. But I never went to a game there. I went to the old Montreal Forum, which was a weird one. I saw them against the Minnesota North Stars in 89 when Patrick Wah was still there, still a kid. Winnipeg was great. I took a hockey trip one weekend.

Me and my brother went out. There was a Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Calgary, Edmonton, and Vancouver all had home games. I was like, fuck it, let's go. And he goes, all right, let's go. So we went to the Saddle Dome. And it was like, yeah, it was snowing out. That was such a great, I enjoy hockey.

That's probably my number one. That's your number one sport? I love it. Yeah? I love it because it's also like, it's never been the sport in this country. It's rogue. It's sort of outside.

It's a loner sort of thing to it. It's very like. Is hipster bill? No, I looked at it. No, it's more like a stand up comic. Being a comedian, there's such a weird, ridiculous amount of respect and no respect for it whatsoever. If you tell some of your comedians, oh, dude,

I can never do that. But whenever they show us in a movie, we're always like a rubber chicken. We're on offstage. We've earned a lot of that. But like, it's weird. It's just like, it's completely like one of my favorite. Two things I ever saw making fun of stand up comedy

was when Cliff Clavin tried stand up on Cheers and the in the Simpsons one time made fun to stand up. And it was just it was done really. It was really done when Crusty went dark. Yeah. Oh, start hating everything. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

It doesn't smoke in the cigarette. Yeah. Talking shit about it. Don't you hate pants? That was a great episode. Yeah. Once a year, I'll watch that. All right.

I think you have to do another show after this. But so I'll do one last question. Listen, Hollywood Bill is in demand. Yeah, he is. Big time to get it. Last time I was here, I was down to Earth Bill. Now, you're in your heads in the clouds. That's it.

This whole track suit is just a front. You're just going to have to ride this out with me. Wait. Three years later, see if I come back down to Earth, then you can see who I really want to start drinking again. Yeah. Right. Put on another 20 pounds.

All right. So the Seeky question, if you want to go see Bill stand up, are you going on tour soon? What's my next one? Oh, Hollywood Bill will be in wine country. Oh. Yes. Well, fancy.

All right. So you Seeky promo code take $10 off. First three people with an ascot. Get $10 off with promo code take. All right. So then now give us football. We need the football. Best football.

Football. Football. College or NFL? Lambo. Lambo. And then also Old Dallas Cowboys Stadium, because I loved Tom Landry Cowboys, when they were like, disrespectful franchise that

did Coke and banged hookers. As opposed to when it was like back when people, some people thought wrestling was real. Yeah. I liked that era, as opposed to when they were like, OK, it's sports entertainment. That was an hell of a damn Cowboys when they came in then. I wasn't as big a fan then.

I liked the Tony Dorsett, Drew Pearson. You get the nice little rectangle of son on the wheels as it's setting in the afternoons. I liked all of that. Yeah. Yeah. Robert Newhouse. I loved all of those.

Guys should start wearing. Remember that weird thing when we kind of joke about every now and then Jack Del Rio and who's it Mike Nolan? We're like, hey, we're going to wear suits on the sideline as coaches. Hey, this isn't like Coke sweat or anything, but suddenly it's feeling hot in here. It does get hot in the studio.

No, we're getting you. We're smoking you out. We're all sweaty, yeah. I'm feeling you guys are coming at me during this weird time in the comedy climate. That's right. That's right. Touched on.

You're going to be fucking canceled. The name of this podcast episode is going to be like, we cancel Bill Burr. You won't believe what he said about minorities. Yes. It's going to be insane. You know how many hits you're going to get? It's just going to be insane.

You have to sell advertising with, you've got to say, what we do with curiosity hits. We have cornered the market. Curiosity hits. I think I just coined an advertising phrase. Yes. Which one of these fucking space odyssey? All these.

All of them. They all got them. You have to stare Bubba in the eyes. Every time. Did you go to the bathroom here? There's a camera in there. Oh, there is. And boogers on the wall.

And that's legal. If you're on an even floor, it's legal. It's a run consent party state. So I can tape you whenever I want. That's the rule. We're getting yelled at right now. Oh, we're getting yelled at right now. We should probably let you go.

Bill Burr. Thank you for stopping by. Yes. Five to one. You're the best. All right. Thank you guys. Cool, hard jazz.

Oh, by the way, I love when you and El Perez were talking about this. Three football games at one night. And you have to have money at all to bet them. I just can't not. No, it's about time somebody just admitted how much fun gambling is before you lose everything. Yes, I can't.

Before you lose your wife and kid, I mean, there's nothing better than have an action on a game. I can't understand people. It's this new thing where people are like, well, you've got to be a sharp, only bet the games you should bet. It's like, no, if there's a football game on, you have to bet it. If money is played, you have to bet it.

I got buddies of mine that if there's a game they don't give a shit about, they put money on it so they will. Yes, yes, exactly. That's what I do during baseball season. If I don't give a fuck about baseball, but I'll party a job, you got to know exactly. The worst thing that's happened is live betting. Because if I sit down at a bar or a restaurant

and there's a game on, and I didn't know what was going to be on, it's like, well, now I'm going to live bet it. Because now I have to have it. It's in front of my face. I like it. Your face is literally, you're getting crazy eyes. I love it. I have action on both of these games.

It's great if you show up early for an engagement somewhere. I bet you, man, you got one game on two screens. Did you bet both of these games? No, there's a game coming up right here. The Braves and the Cardinals, I had action on that, too. Oh, OK. Yeah, so I'm ready to go. It is the perfect way to kill time.

If you're early for an engagement. And lose all your money. Just bet on something. I lose so much. You know, somebody shows up. So much. Just bet what you know you want. Oh, yeah, that's good advice, Bill.

Why? Bet what you can, people. Wow, Bill Burr. You go all the way up there. Cancel. Advocating, legal gambling. Use that clip. Use that's the clip you use.

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But we get you on to talk about what's going on in the NFL right now, because people are mad. And now let's start there with why is it different? I don't understand this. Why is it different than years past? And why does it feel worse than years past? Well, I think you really have to bring into play this whole notion of making pass interference

rebuildable. And we thought it might be fraught with problems when it first came in, because we thought there would be a lot of stops. And that at least turned out not to be true, which is good. But what is complicating the issue, and quite frankly, is nearing disaster stage, is that there are now two standards to what is or what

is not pass interference. There's the standard that the officials use. And then there's a standard that replay uses. And so if you're in a rule situation where you go to replay and replay basically says yes, that is pass interference, but it doesn't rise to the level of what we're looking for, they're using this standard of, well, if it wasn't as bad as the miss in the championship game last year

in New Orleans with the Rams, we're not going to call it in replay. And that's the issue. And so from week one, that has been the question. And it's brought officiating more and more into the conversation. People ask me, is officiating better or worse now, as opposed to when I was there?

And I finally came up with my answer, is that I think the officials from top to bottom are better, but the officiating's worse. And it's been created by replay. It's created by a system that's called O2O Officials to Officials. They now have the replay guy in their ear. They have New York in their ear.

It's easier to sit back and think that things are going to be corrected for you. And the officials will tell me, I got voices in my ear all the time. Four referees got everybody speaking to him. They've got his crew speaking to him. He's got New York speaking to him. He's got his replay officials speaking to him.

You're saying that they're hearing New York in their ear. At what point does the replay official in New York do they get on the wire and actually talk to a ref that's on a field, say in Los Angeles? Yeah, only when he goes to the booth, let me to the sideline monitor to talk to them then, unless there are certain situations. Replay can get involved in penalty enforcement.

Replay can get involved if there's a down that needs to be corrected. You have situations like that where New York could go directly into the ear of the referee. And as we know, if you have a call for a personal foul for unnecessary roughness, especially in regards to use of the helmet, then the New York gets goes directly to the referee without having him

to go to the sideline monitor because New York can decide whether or not that the player should be ejected. Or if the officials eject them right away, New York can get on and say, no, that's not worthy of an ejection. It's just like officiating has gone further and further and further from the playing field. And then you get rules and bring replay

into judgment decisions. The catch, no catch. Did he have it long enough? The officials look at it in real time and replay a look at it in slow motion where everything looks like a catch. So it's changed the philosophy on how you do that. And then you get into pass interference.

And now Al Riveron is forced to make a decision when a challenge is made or when a play is reviewed, he's got to make these decisions on whether it is or it isn't. And the problem is they need to look at this when it comes to instant replay and pass interference. And instead of using this ambiguous, is it clear and obvious and egregious? To me, it is or it isn't, period.

That's the way it has to be. It is or it isn't. And you should not elevate the standard to be so far removed from what you really want called on the official on the field. The standard should be the standard. Are we going to do sky judge, Mike? I feel like everyone just wants to say sky judge

a bunch of times because it makes us feel like we're in the Terminator movie and then eventually we'll get sky judge. Well, I like to sky judge, but not never, you know, I just relate this to what happens on the field. A sky judge, in my opinion, would be an eight official and he's a real time official. He's not an instant replay official.

He's a real time official. The only difference between him being on the field and in this little setup in some suite in the stadium is that he gets to look at something really quickly, run it back and look at it really quickly. And if he can correct something in that dead ball period, just correct it. Same way that they might have done it on the field.

You see it all the time where a guy throws a flag and then one of his fellow officials comes up and says, you know, that's not catchable. That wasn't catchable. It was over his head. It landed outside the white, you know, or he called the block in the back. I saw that it was on the side.

It wasn't in the back. The left hand was on the front, not the back. And they have that type of input from official to official and you could do the same thing. This league needs to stop, in my opinion, needs to stop trying to fix things with Band-Aids. I mean, they need to look at this as, you know, we got to break down and start from scratch

because the system right now is broken. The structure is broken, in my opinion. And it can be fixed, but only if you really think outside the box. And, you know, easy for me to say, I've been out of league for 10 years. And so I see a lot clearer than I saw when I was in the league, but something like a sky judge could work.

And, you know, maybe they will bring it back for discussion, but I will say this. I think it's impossible that the rule, the way that it is judged now, pass interference, the replay element, I think it's impossible for that to move on beyond this year. And I wouldn't be like overly shocked if at some point in the season before the playoffs,

that it changes. It's not beyond the realm of possibility that the standard could change at some point, but I think what is obvious to me is, is that the rule in its current form will not be back next year. Maybe in a different form, but not in the current form that it's in.

You know what you've done for yourself? You put yourself actually in a very good situation for Mike Pereira, which is you left the league right as all these new rules were getting implemented. You went to television, you killed it on TV. You're more frequently right than incorrect. You've got a very high percentage when you're saying which calls are gonna get overturned, that sort of thing.

You've gotta become America's voice of the official right now. The NFL, you could basically name your price to the NFL, and the NFL could just hire you back and say, okay, here's how we're gonna address everything, is we're just gonna bring Mike Pereira back. I think that everybody would actually be okay with that. Like all the fans, we trust you, Mike. You've earned a spot in our hearts.

Well, if I felt they were coming after me to try to get me back, I'd flee to New Zealand today, and I'd hide out somewhere in New Zealand so they couldn't find me. It's not a job I want now. It wouldn't be a job I want. When I left, I didn't even know what Twitter was.

There was no Instagram. I mean, we didn't have this stuff, or at least it was only beginning to be popular, and also, I didn't make decisions. I don't like, and I've said this before, I don't like the fact that a league employee, a league vice president, is making decisions on who may win or lose games.

That was never my role. My role was a buffer between the officials and the coaches and the general managers and the presidents and the owners. I didn't make decisions, but when somebody on the inside, a vice president of officiating, makes what's term ends up being a mistake,

that's hard to keep your credibility with those teams that are involved in the mistakes. There's no amount. They wouldn't want me, but there's no amount that could be paid for me to get me back. It's just, it's created, and I like Al Riveron.

I really do. I just think he's been put in such a tough position, that I don't know how he can take it, week in and week out, especially with the mistakes that are being made that aren't his, but they're still being made that he ultimately is responsible for.

It's close to impossible. Okay, well, I'm optimistic that they'll maybe change one thing that will make it a little bit better, and that's really all people ask for, and I'm optimistic for Sky Judge. So, Mike, you're gonna be, you and your official crew,

even though you're not a ref anymore, will be off the hook once we get Sky Judge, but we appreciate you at least explaining it to us. Well, I mean, I was born in the short lasting AAF last year and actually acted as a Sky Judge for a few games, as did Dean Blantino, by the way, and some others. And I just think it's a real good quick fix, and you can correct,

like I remember a play that we had, a big face mask that was in the middle of the pie. It's reasonable to say that the crew couldn't see it, that they were blocked out on field level. You just call down and say, hey, there was a face mask at the 28 yard line. It's 32 defense, add the 15 on to the end of the run. Boom, let's go.

Boom, done, finish, 26. Yeah, it's gotta be tough. That's why we need Sky Judge. What we really look for is, we just want like a fuck up button. So if there's something that egregious happens that was missed, or like a missed call, whether it's the pass or fair,

thing like against the Saints last year, or a call that was made that shouldn't have been made, just like somebody upstairs to be like, no, that was wrong. Just like hit a button and erase that and move on, because we can see it in real time as fans with the advantage of slow-mo replays and all that stuff, which you clearly don't get on the field. So Sky Judge, you just have the Sky Judge up there

and say, he gets to overrule or she gets to overrule, whatever they want, if it's blatant and very clear to everybody on Twitter that starts to yell about it. And with it, maybe you just do have a quick, you can extend the down between the dead ball period between downs extended to about 50 seconds. And then at 40 seconds, you have a quick tabulation of how Twitter sees all the call.

And you could add those up. And if they say that shouldn't have been about, then you call down and change it. If they say it should, then you stay with it. It'd be the fans, the fans maybe could become the officials in the National Football League. The problem is every decision would go for their home team or their bet.

Right, that's true. They are some, or maybe they're fantasy players. Right, right. All right, well, Mike, thank you very much. We appreciate you as always. And hopefully we'll see you soon. You got it. That's a ghost.

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we're waving at you right now. Barstowworld.com says you can see PFT as a little boy outfit. What's up? Breaking Moos. T-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t I did like I know you could I could have been he could have been out for two weeks and then you made up the joke and then No, no, no, it's a link to something that

Just broke my phone the link some people just give some people a heart attack Listen when there's a bad call an NFL game watch out on those internet streets because the memes will be hot I did notice that Aaron Rodgers post game Southern accent was back a little bit last night Yeah, after after a win. Yeah, very southern extremely southern But he also when he was speaking in in English did the like little twang that he's picked up from being around Danica Verbal meme Aaron Rodgers putting a dollar bill in the back of a ref's pocket. That's probably not even a verbal meme That's a real meme that you could search if you just search alliance screwed. That's a great great winner. Okay, let's do First up we have XFL draft grades. Yep

The XFL did their draft and we're gonna give grades and we haven't looked at it at all So let's do it. It was 70 rounds and I guess it's halfway done right now I mean, that's a lot of rounds. I guess you got to put a whole team together. Yeah So they they assign quarterbacks before the drafts even happen So they want to make sure that each team had a good quarterback. So the quarterbacks are cardio. No, let's go by Let's go by team. Okay. Well, first of all, I want to just as a draft I grade the XFL draft as an a okay. I give it an A because they did it all in Excel. So it's a football guy thing Okay, so DC defenders have

Cardale Jones. Yep. So and Tyree Jackson Yeah, and one one overall Rashard Davis from James Madison. Okay, the DC defenders have the best draft Because Tyree Jackson is really good. Oh, yeah, I just said it. I like the Hank. You know this name Donnell Pumphrey San Diego State shuttle 50 burgers. Wow Yeah, he's a beast Jarell Presley, why do I know the name Jarell Presley cuz you just read it. Oh Yeah, it's true Okay, oh Rashard Davis. He won a Super Bowl Super Bowl champion. There you go. Let's go to the shoots a Yeah, oh DC defenders and the DC defenders have Tracy Sprinkle great name

Houston rough rough next wait, they also have an offensive lineman named Lorgan L LOR GAN Houston Lorgan Lorgan Houston rough next they get an F. They have Connor Cook next The New York Guardians Let's see. I'll let you start with this one. Okay Matt McGloin. So also an F. Oh He's the pre-Connor Cook. Yeah, hard F hard F for that. Let's see who else they got on their lines on their front Tim cook the Apple guy. Whoa, Tim cook. They're gonna have insane amount of salary cap Marquise Williams the guy who played

In Mitch didn't get to play. Yeah, there we go. That counts for something Should have won a cc championship. This is some good draft Dallas Renegades. Let's go down to them Okay, that one we they got a C see Tommy Lee Lewis. I remember him Landry Jones from NIU. Yeah, Tommy Lewis from NIU Landry Jones from Oklahoma. Willie Beavers name means penis vagina great name Uh Let's Josh Allen. They drafted Josh Allen a a plus a plus a plus for a great trip Dallas Renegades All right, so Tampa Bay Vipers Aaron Murray still alive. Mm-hmm sure is that's an a because you brought a guy back from dead That's an a his brother was on the bachelor. Okay next that don't watch the best St. Louis battle Hawks Jordan to move

I like him Ole Miss a a plus Brogan row back That's pretty damn good a plus They also have a Matt Jones Everyone means a Matt Jones Yeah, so they get an a because they got the Brogan they got Brogy Seattle dragons. Can't believe there's a team named the dragon and silvers Keenan Reynolds Keenan Reynolds remember him. Yes. Okay. I'm feeling good about this one Now I like I just from a brilliant state is a as a great name. Yep, Malachi Jones

Oh, they have a defensive in from TCU named stansley Stansley. That's a good name. Who cares That was a fucking good joke stansley the princess Stanley who cares Los Angeles wildcats be for Seattle official grade the Los Angeles wildcats These this is the worst. We need to stop this segment now Katie can't storm Norton storm Norton storm Norton. That's a porn star Trey Williams. Oh Willie Mays Willie Mays to sport To be drafted by majorly baseball and the XFL Leon or Reggie Howard that guy sounds good Hey, okay, and Ryan Cummings a for the Los Angeles wildcats. Okay. That was PF PMT XFL draft grades. We'll never do that again

We literally will not know first day. I don't think how do they do the drafts going? There is no draft Moving forward there will be draft. I'm sure there'll be a draft there Substitutes just guys who just sort of like there'd be another stumble in there It'd be great. It'd be great if you were a general manager of one of these teams You're like, hey, we'll trade you all our next round picks and 2021 will trade you all of Sean McVeigh's picks. Yeah for Matt McGlory. Uh-huh. Okay, haha All right, we have PMT sports biz update. Good morning. This is Jake Mars with the PMT sports biz Over the weekend. We saw the first major upset this season that had college football playoff implications

South Carolina over Georgia the first time the word upset appeared in the world of sports in an 1877 edition of the New York Times the team Monmouth Park when researchers George Thompson Anticipated the potential of a favorite not winning a race. Doug shirts now on sale barstool sports backflash store They are awesome go and buy earlier this week the barstool car at Talladega nearly pulled off What would have been an incredible win what did you remove the Talladega nights will Ferrell and his director Adam McKay use? Just six words to make their case to studios will Ferrell as a NASCAR driver That's your PMT sports biz minute Pat and commenter back to you. Thank you, Jake Oh, very good. Jake very cool. Good job. And then let's finish with some guys on chicks Hank

Sup PFT and dad cat. I just started seeing this guy. He has a beard. He's super handsome, but I almost feel like he's tricking me with this Beard I didn't read these yet. Jake's on this me and I feel like I'm not gonna like the end of this one Just curious to see if you guys think having a beard is cheating and actually makes you much more handsome than you are Take Hank for example. Thanks. Well, yeah, I mean, it's true. I was saying yeah, and though a beard It's just you know, it's it's a mask for the ugly. Yeah You're a hot guy like that's why I That's why I don't grow one is because my face is perfect the way it is Yeah, beards are definitely a little bit of a cheat code

But um, you also it's also just simply like if you have a job that you don't have to shave every day Why would you shave every day? Do you ain't cheating you ain't trying it really comes down to just like the annoyance of shaving is I could I use a shave every day. It sucks I think that that beards really do a guy favors between the age of 20 and 39 mm-hmm. If you have a beard in your 40s, you're just a beard guy for the rest of your life You can never ever turn back correct Hey boom and TJ needs your help on this one What's the longest amount of time you can go without speaking to someone after a hookup and still go back?

Don't want to be a dick, but also looking to get some dick. I Think this was 15 years a guy. I think this one was written by a dude. Just calling it. Yeah, don't want to be a dick 15 years 15 years. Yeah, yeah Yeah, you know, that's right. If you're high school sweethearts with somebody and then you reconnect without talking for a while Oh, yeah sex sex is in the air Sup PM tizzle boys. Damn a little spice on that We've talked about that in the show. Uh sup, uh Sup PMT boys, especially slim cat. My boyfriend is borderline obsessed with blow drying his beehull

He claims that the cool button on the hairdryer was specifically designed to comfort dry hairy beehulls without the risk of burning them Do other guys do this? Please say they do. Um, no, but no, but I'm gonna try. Oh, I'll be beehull I've done it. I'll be I'll be airing out my beehull. I've done it before Yeah, because you see this at the gym if you go into like a gym locker room You're gonna see some shit and it's it usually starts with a 75 year old guy with his leg up on the counter Blow drying his sack in his bar and we see that at first you're disgusted You know, like why would you be doing that in public? But then you're secretly like I maybe he knows something I don't know we should sell because the problem with this many fans. Well, yeah, the problem is with this is twofold one is

Kind of man card situation. You're using a hairdryer, bro. Even though it's on your beehull to Telling your lady that you need to borrow the hairdryer for your beehull. It's tough solution So we need to make a man beehull dryer or you just tell your significant other that you're you're caring more about your hair And you want to look as nice as possible because they as people that spend a lot of time doing their hair We'll be like, wow, that's good for you for taking the extra effort and then when they hear the blow dryer They're not gonna be like what like what happens when they come in and there's just a fucking like a Dingleberries everywhere just it looks like a prison. It looks like Nevada's Jackson Pollock was in jail for 25 looks like Nevada's feel when the trash NATO gets going

Yeah, it's just it's just dingleberries everywhere. Let's do that. It's the blowguyer Yeah, finally a blow dryer for men and then the other side of it is a Suck your dick. Yeah, no, it's the same side, but it just has in a function. Yeah. Yeah, yeah Okay, that works We should just tell any guy that a product sucks their dick They're gonna buy it doesn't even have to because they'll buy it and then they'll be it They'll be too ashamed to ever return it afterwards We should sell we should open a grilled cheese sandwich place

And it's just a hole in every grilled cheese like this grilled cheese sucks your dick sandwiches. You can fuck. Yeah Hold the nail and guess what if you cut out a big section of the sandwich, they don't realize we're saving on cost And then you you take those holes and you turn them into side products. Yes, like a nice grilled cheese holes Yeah, grilled cheese hole and you sell them piping hot no cow so guys can put them in their videos on a really cool day Girl cheese hole sounds good. Yeah, and you can be like I could eat seven of them And it's not a full grilled cheese or put them in your junk Hey, BMT boys, especially hot leave Hank My boyfriend doesn't last very long in bed and he always says it's because I'm so attractive and he's been quote-unquote out of the

Sixth game for a while. It's your fault. That's Recently started so time-wise it makes sense, but is he telling the truth? Yes, or is he making himself come quick on purpose so the sex will be over? No, well first of all Yeah, let's just get this out of the way switch that no no guys like I'm going to try to come quick That's what I do every time. I'm really good at it. Let's see if I'm literally 15 seconds. Yes, literally a nut button I try to know that record the next the scientific he is Stating facts that he's so in love with you that all the the blood rushes from his heart to his dick

Mm-hmm and boom come. Yeah, it's pretty simple. Stop being so hot or just use Roman swipes God, do you think do you think they're ever in the history of? male and female sexual relationships a A female has bought the line of you're just too hot. Yes, absolutely. That's why we keep using it over and over again I think it's one of those unspoken unwritten rules It's like almost it's the same as going getting home drunk in high school And your parents being like not saying anything because they're just happy you're home safe Uh-huh, and you're like man. I totally got one over on them. They knew the whole time

I don't know every time you come quick and you're like it's cuz you're so sexy They know but they're just being nice cuz it's unwritten rule. It's like bunting on a perfect game. Can't do it That's it. Well, I know that okay good session. All right. We'll see everyone on Friday. I think Friday. We have a watt brother Yeah, that's one we don't know who knows and possibly Warren Sharp to give us some actual football picks Maybe he'll give me my can't lose parlay so that I actually can't lose at this time We'll see everyone on Friday. Love you guys Oh Oh

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