Pardon My Take - Billy Mitchell, Joey Chestnut Is The World’s Greatest Athlete, KD To The Warriors? Plus Mt Rushmore Of Arcade Games

Episode Date: July 6, 2022

Joey Chestnut is the worlds greatest athlete and our nation’s greatest American. (00:02:06-00:06:23) Funniest places for KD to end up plus CFB realignment. (00:06:28-00:32:58) Hot Seat/Cool Throne including a mishap on the Pardon My Take group text. (00:34:26-00:56:57) Billy Mitchell, the world’s greatest villain, joins the show to talk about King of Kong, winning Video Game titles, his hot sauce Kingdom and the Mt Rushmore of Arcade Games.(00:58:09-02:00:58) We finish with Guys on Chicks (02:02:25-02:12:29)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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And Joey Chestnut is the greatest American that has ever lived. One of the greatest athletes of all time. And I think we can confidently say that he is the greatest eater, the greatest human eater of all time, right? There's no chance that anybody's ever been better than him. It's like with you saying both you can definitively say you know one's ever been a faster sprinter than you say in bolt. I think you can say the same thing about Joey Chestnut. No one in the history of mankind, going back thousands and thousands of years has been able to hold a candle to what he does. He is the greatest athlete of all time in my opinion. I know that some people would say secretariat Mike Francesa, I'm saying Joey Chestnut.

And I know people be like, Well, that's not an athletic, you know, sport eating hot dogs really fast. Well, then go ahead, you try you try to do what Joey Chestnut does. No one else can do it. He won his 15th in a row. No, what was it 15th all time 16th all time 15th and 16 years, I believe in the only year 2015 to Matt's because yeah, the only reason he lost because his fiance broke up with him a week before. So yes, he is human. He bleeds like all of us. He can be a broken heart can bring down Joey Chestnut. But what he did on July 4 on one leg, which I mean, Big Ben was probably watching him being like, God damn it, I should get into competitive eating. And one leg and choked out a protester while eating hot dogs while winning the championship.

I tip my cap to him. I don't think like, I honestly, this is going to sound a little bit hyperbolic. I am lucky to be breathing the same air as Joey Chestnut. I'm lucky to be alive. Think about how many years think about when you could have been born in the history of the of humanity. And we were born at the same time as Joey Chestnut, we got to enjoy Joey Chestnut. That's what he's done. And James shared the stage with him. It's pretty incredible. Like what we've been lucky enough to see in our lifetimes. I was looking up some of his other records that he has. He's got some other records that like approach goat status if you just throw out if you got rid of this is like when you take out like Barry bond steroid seasons and throw them out and you look at the

rest of his career and you're like, Oh, he'd still be like a top three hitter of all time. If you throw out the hot dog eating contest, this guy still he ate 41 hard boiled eggs in eight minutes. He ate 23. He ate cool hand Luke great movie. Yeah. 23 six inch Philly cheesesteak sandwiches in 10 minutes, 390 shrimp wontons in eight minutes, 28 pounds of smokes poutine in 10 minutes. If there's no there's no number two. There's no number two. It's Joey Chestnut Junior Soprano and then the rest. Yes. Yeah. And Joey Chestnut, by the way, the one year that he loses, he comes back and he wins. That was the year I was I competed and he said the the buns were looking extra fast that day, which I was like, wow, I didn't even know that was a thing. But he's beating everyone by so much.

And he doesn't like you realize that he could eat. I can't remember what the second place person had. What is it like 45 or something 40 like he could eat. Yeah. 20 less hot dogs and still win every year yet he keeps pushing himself. Last year he had 76. The new record he keeps just like to find me a guy who will compete against himself like Joey Chestnut does. And again, if it wasn't for his fiance breaking up with him, we'd be talking about is has Joey Chestnut ruined the hot dog eating competition because he's won 16 in a row. Is he is he bad for hot dogs? Yeah, he's a Yukon women's basketball of hot dogs. Jake knows all about eating when the buns get fast. Am I right? Am I right? Absolutely. He's also he's won by an average of 18 hot dogs

per contest. So it's not even close stupid. He is he is competing against himself. It's like when Tiger was dominating the PGA tour, he could just take it easy. But he demands excellence out of himself. We're definitely not going to get a live tour for major league eating though, at least not in the hot dog category. Never say never, never say never. All right, so I just we had to lead with Joey Chestnut. Should we talk about a fake sport now the NBA offseason? This league. Oh man. So when we last recorded, we're on vacation this week, when we last recorded Kevin Durant had just asked for a trade from the Nets. We now are sitting here. Five days later, he has not been traded from the Nets yet. I actually am of the belief that the Nets should just be like fuck it,

you're staying on the team, you signed a four year deal, like they used to mean something kind of pushback player empowerment, like, Hey, no, you can't be traded. We're going to keep you. But he also has demanded that he wants to play with at least two All-Star players. So he he, I don't want to bring out the triple B, but he wants to play with at least two All-Star players. I went through it. There's nine teams that are off the list off of that nine teams that are off the list from the two All-Star threshold. But there's a lot of teams that would be very funny if you got traded to that I'm hoping for. I mean, do you want to just go down like what would be the fun? The funniest is clearly the Warriors, if you get traded to the Warriors, like will that

work? We don't know, but it would be fun to watch, right? Yeah, we were talking about, we're talking about KD right now, right? KD to the Warriors is actually something that like I've, if you, if you're reading any of this stuff, I guess the Warriors had a meeting and like the players are like, yeah, we'd take Kevin Durant on our team, like give it a shot. In Hamptons? Only one ball. In Hamptons' meeting again? Yeah, that's the problem. It was like, you got a lot of All-Stars on our team, a lot of ball dominant, like some great shooters. I don't know how Kevin Durant

fits into that. Can Kevin Durant check his ego enough to be successful on the Golden State Warriors? But how great would it be? Kevin Durant to the Warriors, Kyrie to the Lakers, and then LeBron and Kyrie play Kevin Durant in the Warriors in the Western Conference Final for like four years in a row. It's not broke, just don't fix it. Like let's just go back to five years ago. What I'm rooting for, I mean, first of all, we should give credit to Brian Winhorse for calling his shot so perfectly in advance. What are the Utah Jazz doing? Everybody around the league is asking what's going on in Utah. I was on the edge of my seat all morning trying to figure out what the fuck was going on in Utah, and Winhorse was right. They traded away Rudy Gobert. He saw it

coming. And the funny thing is like when he was giving that whole monologue, he was like dripping out breadcrumbs for everybody had everyone just like waiting for him to finally make a fucking point, and he just wouldn't do it. He knew that he was going to be right eventually. He was like, I know this is ridiculous in the moment, but in three hours when I'm not on TV anymore, everyone's going to be standing up and applauding for me. And I did I gave him I gave him a standing ovation. Oh, yeah, his flow was incredible. He was had everyone just waiting like what's next, what's next? And it's so funny because the entire Brian Winhorse like monologue that got memed to death in record time, it was pretty much like 24 hours and the memes were dead. He could have just saved

all that breath and just been like, Hey, just remember Danny Ainge is running the jazz now. So he's just going to get the max amount of picks in the future. And he's just going to do this all again, which he did. I think that I think the wolves like including, you know, their pick this year for Walker Kessler, I think they gave up like six or seven first round picks. So it's essentially like the jazz are just and they're going to probably do the same thing with Donovan Mitchell. And it's just going to be the jazz in like eight to 10 years are going to be a problem. I'm calling it right now problem. Yeah, the way that he's struggling out though is so perfect. It was he like built up all this fucking tension. And he was like, watch what's going on in Utah. He was like

the Alex Jones of the NBA. I loved it. Yes. So all right. So KD backed Katie in his demand, which is, you know, he wants to play with two all star players, all star type players, funniest places. Warriors would be the funniest. Thunder would also be funny, but they don't meet the two all star threshold. I was looking it up. It would be very funny if he got traded to the Hornets, who have two all stars and Gordon Hayward and Lamello ball. It'd be very funny if he got traded to the Knicks with Julius Randall and Derek Rose, two all stars. The Wizards have Bradley Beal and Porzingis. That's two all stars. Great team. Yeah, no, it's coming home from bring it. The bulls have four. We both have a super team. They have four all stars. They have Vooch, DeMar DeRose and Zach

Levine and Andre Drummond. That's a that's a super team. I just also didn't go into Chicago. What the takes would be flying about Michael Jordan. Great. So good. I just so good. I want I want one team to get all the bad vibes guys. I want to preferably the Lakers. I want them to like go on. I want them to keep Russell. I know it's probably not possible and with a salary cap. Maybe there's some creative ways maybe less need can give them a talking to and be like, Hey, here's how you can cheat at the salary cap. But I want like Kyrie. I want Russell Westbrook on the same team. I want Chris Paul and say I want like the biggest shit show of a franchise possible just for the takes because they would probably end up winning a ton of games

because they're all super talented. But then the inevitable implosion like get James Harden on the team to get everybody there. I just want one centralized location of just nonstop drama and bullshittery. I agree. It would be just put it all in one spot and let us just watch the shit show every single time. Other teams you can get traded to on the two all star threshold the Nuggets Joe kitchen and they just signed DeAndre Jordan. So that's two all stars. I just want I want one of these teams like the jazz have still have Mike Conley and Donovan Mitchell. Pelicans have Zion and Ingram Pelicans actually would be unbelievable if they traded for CJ CJ has never made an all star game. So I looked I went deep and I was looking up all the all stars but it would be

like I like I even got to the point where I was like maybe you get traded to the Pistons because the Pistons just bought out Kemba Walker and Cade Cunningham will be an all star eventually but yeah just like imagine him getting traded to the Hornets and the Nets being like well you asked for two all stars. So we get we we we gave you your request. He probably meant current all stars right. Yeah I mean of course he wants to play for he wants to win a championship. That's why he should go back to the Warriors which would be the funniest thing that could happen in the NBA is Kevin Durant getting traded back to the Warriors. I don't even care if they won like three in a row but just watching him after Shaq did the whole like you got you can't there's bus drivers and

bus passengers. If he just was a bus driver in Brooklyn for a year and a half and was like actually I kind of like just sitting like maybe second row of the bus. That's way more fun. It would be great if he went back to Golden State. That's why I am rooting for that because I felt like in the last couple years KD has been inching closer and closer to like he's just he confronts he views his arch nemesis now as like Stephen A Smith. That's who he's competing against every day. Every day he goes to work to prove that Stephen A Smith is corny and doesn't know what he's talking about in his ways to breath. The best thing he could ever do would be to go back to Golden State win two more championships retire and be like I'm happy with what I did and how I

won and Stephen A Smith can I did that knowing that Stephen A Smith was going to come to work every day. Rage is unload that little mustache on me and I'm fine with it. I'm secure enough in myself to go back to the Warriors and do it all do it all again back here. Yes yes and and it also the nets like the implosion of the nets I kind of I want them to keep both these guys just because I want to see it implode again because we've already got to watch it happen once now or actually twice because the James Harden thing but the stat that's been thrown around which is just insane to think about is that Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant played 44 regular season games together 44 they went to Brooklyn together they picked each other and they played 44 games together. I've

you can tell that I've got some free time vacation week so I went down another rabbit hole with stat muse where you can search like player player a has played this many games as player B. I want to throw a couple out to you people who have played more games together than Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving who again they signed together in Brooklyn to become like a super team and they played 44 regular season games. I bet just off the top of my head. I bet you Shaq has played more than 44 games with probably like 300 people. There are a lot of Shaqs. The most notable Shaq I had out there that I looked up LeBron and Shaq played 53 games together. Like these are pairings of all stars that you just don't even think about Steve Nash and Kobe played 48 games together. Scottie

Pippen and Hakim Elijah one played 50 games together. These are all more than Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving. Gary Peyton and Kobe Bryant played 65 games together. Here's a weird one Tony Parker and Kemba Walker. They played 56 games together on the Hornets. Remember when Tony Parker finished his career on the Hornets. Hank you'll like this one. John Wall and Paul Pierce they played 71 games together. Patrick Ewing and Gary Peyton played 76 games together on the Sonics. There's like so many Horace Grant and Patrick Ewing played 62 games together on the Magic. There's all these weird combinations of guys who you never would think like Vince Carter and Hakim Elijah one. They played 47 games together on the Raptors. You never think that they played

more games together than Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant who willingly chose to play together. Rashid Wallace and Allen Iverson played 48 games together when AI went to the Pistons. There's like it's just I could do this all day of random pairings of all stars that played together that beat Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving who put together a super team and they played 44 regular season games together. What about Carl Malone. Carl Malone and Lamar Odom. I could I could search that. So Carl Malone got I was looking that up. I think he played like 41 games with Kobe and 40 games with Shaq. So it was close. I was trying to only do the ones that are that are more. Chris Weber and Allen Iverson played 99 games together. Mellow and AI played

113 games together. That's like three careers of Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving. It's just it's so crazy to think about when they when they signed there and I know Kevin Durant was hurt the first year. But if you had said that when they brought that team together like because that was the big second act for both of those guys and 44 games and that's all they got. Well it's it's almost like super teams don't always work out in the NFL. They never work out like with the exception I guess we're proven to the last like two years. But besides that besides like the most recent two years which is completely undermining my point. It usually doesn't work out that well in the NFL but in basketball it does. Well but but it's but it's way funnier in basketball when it doesn't

work out. And it's also it's we're also seeing like the reverse side of these super teams where it's not only the super team but essentially the general manager and owner basically letting the players become the general manager and owner like this is a situation where Kevin I mean you heard it when Kyrie Irving was like me and Kevin are going to sit down and figure this out in the in like wait what about the GM and the owner and LeBron I mean they won a title but Genie Buss is tweeting about how she misses Kobe Bryant at like one in the morning. So it's like they're you know if you let if you let players just run everything it can backfire. What do you think where do you think this leaves Ben Simmons like you see is he just going to be the guy next year. Well PFT good

point because what if Kevin Durant just gets traded back to the Nets because they have three all stars Blake Griffin Kyrie Irving and Ben Simmons. There you go. So why not. Ben Simmons definitely needs to be on the all bad vibes team. But yes I was curious like it kind of sucks that we're not even going to get to see one game where it's Ben Simmons Kyrie and Katie just to see what that would have looked like. Right. And we are going to get we are going to maybe get the trade that got floated out there Russell Westbrook to the Nets which I think Russell Westbrook. Jake can look it up. I think he's going to maybe go for like one of the greatest accomplishments of all time is signing a five year max and then playing playing it for a different team every

single year which would be incredible because I think he's just like I don't understand. There's there's never been a person who's had a contract that is deemed untradable that gets traded more than Russell Westbrook. I mean he needs to he needs to play hardball. If you're Russell Westbrook at this point just be like send me to Tennessee send me to Florida send me to Texas so that I can play no just give me all the money that I was in Houston. Yeah. But imagine he gets traded back to to he gets trade to the Nets for Kyrie and then Kevin Durant's like they don't trade Kevin Durant and we get Russ and Kevin Durant together again. Why not. I'm rooting for chaos. I'm rooting for the exact same thing. I'm rooting for chaos and the stupidest dumbest things to happen because

like this is all of this league off seasons combined into one where it's like no big free agents are out there but we can get some really dumb combinations of trades. You're forgetting about the Clippers though. I'm going to I'm going to constantly remind everybody we're forgetting about the Clippers. Guess who's back. That's right. They're going to be good. Yeah. As long as Kauai plays which he might not. That's what I'm saying like no Kauai is back this year. Maybe. Kauai PG playoff P. John Wall championship. Yeah. I think they still have one of one or two of the Mark Morris twins. I feel like they always have one of them. Right. They cycle a minute out. But Pat Bev is probably going to make his way back there at some point. Dude. How about Pat

Patrick Beverly. You know we defended the move of celebrating the Timberwolves like they had won the championship when they won the playing game because we went through the Minnesota sadness and it's really really tragic to think of what's happened in that city. But it does make it so much funnier that Patrick Beverly is no longer on the Timberwolves after after winning that play in game. That is very very funny. He brought he brought them a championship like that's a Minnesota championship. Yeah. They should honestly like I hear by give full and complete permission to Minnesota to put a banner up saying play in tournament champion. Yes. Just be the Colts works for them. What are you going to say Jake. Yeah. So I'm looking for

another person who's played five teams in five years but he would be that twenty nineteen Thunder twenty twenty Rockets twenty one Wizards right now Lakers and next year if he goes somewhere else like he just keeps getting traded everyone. Everyone's like that contract. That's terrible. And then they just trade. It's great. I want it to happen. I want Kyrie to be back with LeBron and I want Kevin Durant to be back with the Warriors. It's just going to be hilarious. I want KD on the Thunder. Yeah. That would be funny to ultimate ultimate redemption story to see to see LeBron going back into big brother mode on Kyrie would be a real treat for everybody. Yeah. Yeah. James Harden is on his third team

in three years. Obviously not the same but yeah. So it actually Kevin Durant like the rumors of where he's going to go like the Celtics and the heat are two of the teams that could offer what what potentially would be like a good enough offer for the Nets. How I'll start with you Jake. You want is the heat culture. Yeah. Like I said last week he keeps his head down in a literal form but I think I think that the tweeting is not really something Pat Riley would stand for but it's KD so he'll back off. I don't know. Okay. All right. Do you think maybe Pat Riley would like pull up his tweets and be like Kevin before we trade for you. I just want to go through this and just maybe can you delete some of these. He should send his tweets to Pat Riley for approval.

I'm sure that will go over well. No. Just have you don't has them hold his phone. Yeah. And if he's got a really good tweet to put out be like you don't see what I'm going to say and then let Haslam decide. Yes. Yeah. Yes. And Hank I mean you you don't want to break up the Celtics do you. I don't want to break up the Celtics. I do love KD though. He's always been one of my favorite players that would be like they would have to make a good trade but I could definitely talk myself into it and be happy with it. But it's one of those things where it's just probably not necessary or so close. But it is Kevin Durant. Right. But it just depends what you have to give up. Right. Do you think that Celtics would be worse with Kevin Durant.

It depends. You never know. There are two games away from win the championship. Like if they if they lost in the Eastern Conference finals then technically that would mean yes. Right. But if the Celtics had Kevin Durant instead of Jalen Brown I think they win the title. Yeah. I don't know. They want Kevin Durant in the playoffs. That's true. How quickly we forget. That is true. Yeah. All right. I'm just going to say for the record I'll take him on the wizards if he wants to come home. I'll take him on the bulls. I'll take him on the bulls. Absolutely. Like I said for for all stars no big deal. The Andre Drummond some some like win horse meme where the bulls signing Andre Drummond to further entice Kevin Durant just

more all stars for them. That's I think that's exactly what happened. Okay. Anything else in the sports world before we do hot seat cool throne. It's I mean it were baseball season. We're we're heavy baseball season. We saw triple play. That was cool. White Sox got triple played. I think it was actually the first I think I think Tim Kirchin might have ejaculated because it was I think it was the first time there's been a triple play of that type. That happened. Which is crazy. Every day you can go to the ballpark and see something you never seen before. That's the beauty of baseball. O'Neal Cruz hit a home run that I think is still climbing. I don't think it started to reach its apex yet. I'm I'm all in on O'Neal Cruz. He's my

like I want I want O'Neal Cruz to become the best player of all time and be like yeah I remember when he was on my cool throne like in in 2022. And that would be it. That would be my I'll just be like yep that's it. I was able to see a prospect even though everyone knew about him. I was able to see him before everyone else because he's on the pirates and he happened to play the Cubs one night. When you started talking about him I was like wait is that that guy that had that sweet ass whip motion throw across the across the infield. I was like that guy's an awesome shortstop even though I'd never seen him before. Yeah we've got you know what we've got an eye for talent. We do see him. We're seeing heads on the show. We're basically Billy Bean like I saw him

one game against the Cubs and I was like this guy is a Major League Baseball player. Yeah there was there's there's realignment going on right now. Oh yeah more realignment pack 12 looks like it's going to get halfway absorbed into the big 12 and they just need to get away. They need to do away with the numbers entirely at this point. Like you know you're not going to be the big 12. You're not the big 10 any longer. But if you think of something else either change your numbers to to mean what they say or just get rid of them all together because now it's going to be like 18 teams maybe in the big 12. And if you're going to do 18 teams you should just do 20 teams and you should divide it into conferences and then have a two round conference

championship tournament where you have a semi final against two divisions and then a final championship game to determine the winner of that conference. Just do 20 teams. Well I disagree with I think the big 10 should keep their name forever and I hope it gets to like 30 teams because that would be funny. And like why would they change now. It's been 14 teams forever and they've still been the big 10 and now it's 16. I do agree though like it's it feels like we're just going to end up with and I know everyone's upset and I get it because we talked about this on Thursday. It sucks to lose like certain brands of football. I love the different conferences and their different fields but it does feel like we're going to end up with the SEC in the big 10

and it's just going to be like AFC NFC and you play like if they both end up with 24 teams then you just have divisions of six teams you play your division every year and then you play a different division and then you have a semi final and a playoff in the big 10 and then you have a semi final and a playoff in the SEC and then those two teams play each other and we call it the Super Bowl. Yeah that's what's so perfect about doing like breaking these down into having to see my finals and finals. Listen we know that we love football. Professional football has in my opinion the best postseason. I know you guys like bowl games which I do too but NFL postseason is amazing. Just do that format in college football. Everybody the whole hand ringing for the last 20

years like oh I don't know if the fans are going to want to play off. Fuck you. Yes we do want to play off. It would be incredible. There's literally no downside to having a playoff. Division one double A now FCS they figured out a long time ago. They're able to do a playoff. It fucking kicks ass. Do it. Do it at the highest level. Like we're gonna love it. Stop. Stop pretending that we're not going to like it because we will. And then and then do it. Have the big 10 in the SEC be the two mega conferences and have every other conference combined into a different league that plays for a playoff as well and then we have relegation and we're fine. How electric would that be if you're like if you're an Oklahoma State fan you're like hey if we win this other mega conference

we're now in the SEC and then imagine you kick out. I mean like the Vandies of the world would just be gone forever. They just drop and never come back but it would be it'd be great to watch and have like those like if you want the argument about college football which I always agree with is like it does feel like every game matters because one loss would kind of kick you out of the playoff. So why not have every game matter where a few losses kicks you out of the top division. You know what I've been thinking like what if there was that relegation and to use your Oklahoma State analogy. What if Oklahoma State could beat Oklahoma and force Oklahoma to be relegated while Oklahoma State got moved up into like the SEC. How how sweet of an occasion would

that be for the alumni of that school and for the students like to do the worst like put your your most hated rival in the most misery possible because of a football game. Right. That's that's what sports is about and they would still play big time football the next year because they'd just be being it like basically a division of everyone who got left out of the ACC Big 12 and Pack 12. Like those are some really good teams still and I don't know. I feel like it'll be weird but I think it would work and it would be fun. We're going to have Andy Staples on on Monday show to break it all down. But I I'm also thinking the big news is like I think Notre Dame finally after forever is going to have to join the Big 10 which I don't think they are. I don't think they are because

there's going to be a ton of money thrown at them. There's going to be so much money but Notre Dame absolutely loves having the power of course we're going to play our own schedule. We're going to pick our opponents in the weeks that we want them and our brand is big enough that it's actually good that we're able to do this. I don't think they need to be in a conference which is one of those quirks about college football that like it makes no sense and it might not be the fairest way to do it but it's just kind of like college football is a sport that has largely been like this is the way that it's always been done and that's why it is the way that it is right now. That's kind of their explanation for everything and they used to be

able to just get away with it all the time. But now there's just too much money and the realignment is forcing people's hands to actually have to make progressive changes. But with Notre Dame they can just be like no you know what I think I'm good. I think you know this is the way we've always done it so that's where we're going to do it. But if it becomes so the reason the alternate side of it is that Notre Dame has always stayed out because of money and TV. Now the money in TV has become like the big 10 or the SEC can offer more money and more TV than Notre Dame on their own can. That's just like a fact. They are the new TV deal that the big 10 is going to do is going to fucking be insane. And if the big 10 and SEC are the only two mega conferences they then get

to decide the playoff and they could just be like you guys aren't invited. Like Notre Dame you're not invited because you're not in our conference. Like you know what I mean they have they hold that power where I think Notre Dame will eventually have to just be like all right. And it always has made sense for them to be in the big 10. It would be great. They already have rivalries with like half of the big 10. So why not do it. Actually they have rivalries with all the big 10 now because USC is in it. All they're like we like all we got to do is add Navy to the fucking big 10 and then Notre Dame can't be like no we lose our rivalry games. If it gets to that point where it's like you have to be in the big 10 to make the playoff then yes that that's what we'll make. That's

what I think is going to happen. But they might do that bullshit thing that they did a couple years ago where they're like you know what we're going to consider ourselves part of the ACC for a year. Like like that that whole thing like we're going to play an ACC schedule. They could do something like that. But I think that they have turned down more money before. Yeah but this is going to be this is going to be insane money. And I just think that this is like if I had to bet right now in the next five years I think Notre Dame will be in the big 10. If the if the conferences get into some sort of a playoff format that would make it like an accessory to be in the big 10 then yes they'll do it. Besides that I'll take over five years.

Okay. I think they would do it even without that stipulation. I think it's just going to it's like everything's changing so rapidly and the money's getting so ridiculous that I think it's going to end up being they're just going to have to do it and it will be great. It's like such a natural fit. You know what I mean. It's when everyone's saying like how are we going to do the USC and UCLA. There's all the way on the West Coast fucking Notre Dame's in Indiana like they should be in the big 10. It makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. How do you think Bill Walton's taking the news? Not well. I well I should say has he heard the news yet.

I think he's heard the news because he's in off season mode so he might not have heard the news. I think he definitely has like his wife probably has like Google alerts set up for anything just related to the Pac 12. Yeah. Just like Bill did you hear this and then he just he needs he needs a moment. Now the question is that I don't think the question is how it has Bill Walton heard the news yet. The question is has Bill Walton forgotten the news yet. Correct. He he probably has absorbed it and then released it out into the world. Well that's good. That's good. Yeah. It's all one song. Okay. Let's get to hot seat cool drone. We again we have Billy Mitchell one of the greatest heels of all time coming up in studio. Hot seat cool drones brought to you

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uh a twitter account named seahawks fan for life seahawks fan 2314 just replied to it as in a trolley way I said not a sport and then the u.s. open verified tennis account replied to that guy and says not a sport says the person about to watch 17 games of drew lock at qb which went viral and then everyone was just roasting drew lock so drew lock was just his working out off season summer probably doing his thing and then just had to realize that he was trending on twitter and everyone was just destroying him like just just a tough tough time you never you never sometimes it's deserved but when it's undeserved like that I almost feel bad that's what happens when you come after the sport of tennis oh stop it jake wow oh it is so much worse the fact that it was a tennis

account yeah and did you see the ricochet uh virality how basically the internet works if one thing of this type of joke goes viral people are like let me just make it in a different format and it's just guys keep saying they they want football to be back and this is what they're missing and it's a screen grab of the bear a bears game where they're like they it's like punt punt fumble interception punt and I've just ignored it but because I really like if you're gonna do that do the seahawks game when jimmy claustin started and and john fox punted like 12 times in a row do that like at least be at least use the correct bears game for something like this but I I hate those ricochet viral moments where it's like you did this tweet

because the us open went viral that's the only reason yeah there are a few a few players that you can like call your your ricochet virality off like when drew lock goes viral probably what was it what was he rapping on the sidelines I don't know he reaches a quarterback young jeezy put on for my city yeah yeah when drew lock goes viral like young jeezy is probably going to be going viral shortly thereafter tua as well that's a great club tua is always a ricochet virality moment like waiting to happen where like someone just throws something either actually tua gets it both ways because I saw like there was one where this this woman was through a bomb at a tailgate and they're like just got signed to the dolphins because tua can't throw deep or if someone

like misses something it's easily they're like looks like looks like tua out there so tua just gets it every day yeah tua is a big one karson wins is unfortunately sad to say one of those guys too yeah he gets a lot of the ricochet kirk cousins also listen we talk more about kirk cousins than anyone it's all completely deserved but i'd say like him and darik karr are the other ones that anytime somebody does something bad they're gonna go viral and i like do you i imagine them like darik karr sees like drew lock going viral it's like oh fuck i'm next this sucks like oh they're they're going after us now darik karr probably blocks him blocks drew lock in advance to try to prevent going viral yeah because he'll block you he blocks like everybody uh i don't think he

blocks me but yeah it is funny to see the the ricochet because the bears is a franchise always get the ricochet off of any of these and then it's just certain players once once the internet has some blood for like ooh we can get retweets on making fun of this quarterback it just it's open season for a while also no dish on Watson news still either yeah weird something's happening there we did pay attention though yeah so right yeah follow follow the follow the leaks uh all right your cool throne hank um my cool throne is just us society the world everything i don't know if you guys saw this headline but it's it's it's concerning yeah humanity's largest yes the world's largest particle accelerator c er n cern is turning back on today at unprecedented levels many believe a

portal to another dimension is going to be opened shit so we're they're they're doing it yeah like they're they're doing it looks like it's straight out of a movie it's like a big like fucking laser beam blaster into another portal this is what happened in summer of 2016 hank this is what this is what stopped the world and made everything after that assimilation so this might just be the reset button we might be going back to the summer this was that thing yeah yeah that would be awesome we're running it back you're gonna wake up tomorrow morning and you're gonna be playing dimmy with the boys you're gonna have the harambe shirts everywhere it's gonna be great hank's gonna be living his best life but you're gonna you're gonna get demoted you're no longer

gonna be ceo true that's true but i it would probably be worth it i think yeah trade it all trade it all just go back to the the life you had trade it all be back in summer 2016 again trade it all for you to be the one who falls asleep on pardon my takes whom calls well that's summer 2016 i was i was i was i was doing that people forget uh okay i just didn't have my camera on pft your hot seat cool throne yeah no no hank had my hot seat humanity he nailed it i didn't think that hank was going to be dropping certain large particle collider references on part of my take but this is where we are as a unit uh my cool throne is words of wisdom large particle collectors accelerators yeah colliders my cool throne is words of wisdom so uh i am at a beach

house here in the jersey shore this summer big cat alluded to the the big gay truck i've got parked outside which is phenomenal um and in this house the person that decorated this house probably had an operating budget of i'd say like two three hundred thousand to exclusively spend on like stuff that you hang on the wall from target or home goods and it's just everywhere so i wrote down some of the things that i've just noticed in the first like two days i've been in the house um people disappoint chocolate is eternal facts so true keep calm and eat a cookie also facts i'm sensing a trend yeah no there's there's a lot of stuff like that there's um oh you'll you'll like this one big cat a cup of coffee solves everything here's another one absolute

fact uh my brain has too many tabs open it's so true that's good that's a good yeah no these are good and then life is what you make it but then under make it it's got instructions on how to make a margarita it's so true so like there's there's literally too much truth in this house it's like every wall and i'm just scratching the surface on this every wall has at least like three different signs hanging off it that somebody saw a target and they're like oh that's cute oh that's precious and uh so i guess i'm just going to be the most enlightened human being after i'm done living in this house for this summer but i'm very excited to keep uncovering all the different things they have up so i'll i'll keep chronicling those as they as they show

themselves to me in this house i like it i like it a lot um all right my hot seat so friday we're going to do uh three hour dungeon and dragons with uh tim woods so get ready for that so we're not gonna have a fire fest so and and this is really just something that needs to be discussed my hot seat is Liam bubba um last night we were on the group text yucking it up having some fun talking with the boys and uh bubba then boys yeah bubba then sent back four screenshots of the group text by accident so yeah i don't i don't know what to think at this point because um whenever someone accidentally sends you a screenshot of a conversation it's like so who were they sharing it with who who is this supposed to go to because it clearly wasn't supposed

to go to us and uh yeah we're it's it's bad times for bubba right now he's on my hot seat um i do have a folder of just funny texts so um that's where it was going to i did delete it because i was like i don't want that to happen again um so yeah what kind of what kind of other fun fun texts from the guys were in the fun text folder there's a bunch of uh there was like a lot of old videos and shit that we had and you just deleted all of them so like we can't even see them now correct because i was because he didn't want this to happen again yes okay and i may or may not have been talking in these text messages about doing cocaine so why would why would i send that to somebody i don't i you should ask yourself that i

would okay i don't know i'm not lying but it but i think this is a very relatable thing that people have either done themselves or had it happened to them where someone accidentally sends back a screenshot of your conversation and you're just like uh oh where is this supposed to go there was a moment it was actually probably like five minutes after he sent those back and big cat and me were both like uh what what is this i just i just i just i just started to sweat thinking about being in liam's position and imagining what he's going through and it was like it made me feel awkward i was like i was hanging out with with my friends here and i was feeling awkward for liam who's probably just staring at his phone yes hundreds of miles away

trying to figure out how to get his way out of this one and we did like the a mean Stella's barking but we did the mean thing but it wasn't intentional it was just like that's the end of the conversation we didn't text for the rest of the night like we just stopped so it was like even worse for him because he was just sitting there like oh they they stopped texting after this so we knew the cops were on the block yeah well we had some good jokes going obviously and that's why he was getting saved to the to the pmt funny chat moment spiral that he's got i i feel good though because like yeah big cat you were talking i was talking about not doing coke so i'm coming out smelling like roses on this one oh man um okay well it needed to be addressed i think we all agreed that

it had to be said i mean yeah no i know i would get roasted i actually i was i i most have uh forgotten how to use my phone in a uh just being drunk for five days in a row i i had a worse one doing that i um i sent a uh a girl's instagram story and to her on accident said this girl's the worst person on the oh no oh my god you need to you need to have somebody else hold you need to have you don't have them hang on to your phone for you because that's that's that's a pretty bad couple days of phone management on your part jesus jesus also bubble what you should do is you should just relabel all of our names in the group chat as other people's names in this group chat so it looks like billy sent the text about cocaine and not big cat and then and then you can publish it

or what it wasn't being published but i mean i understand it's i listen i'll defend you uh in this respect that we're what we were talking about was fourth of july being on a monday fourth of july being on a monday is like it's it's a gauntlet for anyone who's partying because it's basically you have to start on friday and you go on like when fourth of july is on a wednesday or a thursday and it's the start of the partying you can like but monday rolled around and everyone i think was like well we got to keep partying it's fourth of july even though it's been three days so it's definitely a tough time yeah you're like you're like what's my moment recorded tomorrow and i was like i'm so excited to not drink tomorrow yeah well that's the thing about three day weekends i

think all three day weekends should be friday off it should not be tack on a monday because people forget that when you're drinking on that monday like that's your sunday more normal people don't go out and get loaded on a sunday afternoon sunday evening if they have to work all week they forced our hand into doing that this time and yeah i just can't i i personally can't get drunk anymore i just get tired after also also like ten beers i just want to fall asleep yeah and a psa we've said this before we're not going to judge anyone who does anything but just do make sure you get your drugs tested because it's fucked up right now so that's just a cocaine is cocaine is bad so don't do it an extra psa i'll say it not gonna i'm not gonna judge anyone for doing

anything but just do make sure you're safe please i will i'll judge you okay i will not judge you yeah i will not throw rocks from a glass house i will just say and that's it please get your powders tested thanks right if you do have some leftover that's been tested cocaine is not good give it to me no question yeah but only the tested kind all right my cool throne is uh buying an extra bag of chips or as the wall street journal said pack of chips um there was a i don't know if you guys saw this wall street journal had a story and it so i'm not laughing at the fact that it inflation is crazy and people are struggling right now because obviously that's fucked up i'm laughing at the fact that it looked like an onion

article from the wall street journal it was a guy sitting next to a lake kind of like sitting down sadly and it said unable or willing to stomach higher prices many americans are skipping some extra purchase or purchases and outings even the smallest luxuries and then in quotes i kind of second guess if i really need to get this act extra pack of chips so um always buy the extra bag of chips it's bag not pack nice job wall street journal you're fucking narks but uh yeah times are tough but the extra bag of chips will never you'll never be like i shouldn't have bought this extra bag of chips there's a lot of things that you would regret buying an extra bag of chips is never one of them ever yeah just yeah there's certain things that you can eliminate from your

budget and you'll be fine like maybe take like one step down in terms of the type of liquor that you buy you don't have to go top shelf go mid shelf or if your mid shelf go a little bit lower um just no more condoms we're not doing condoms anymore that's an easy way to mark town right there uh but when it comes to the chips like the small pleasures in life they're actually they they far outweigh their value like how much is that extra bag of chips costs excuse me pack it's probably 199 depending on like if we're talking about big thing of tostitos or we're talking about like a thing of doritos like 199 to 399 something like that the amount of joy that you get out of there was like two to five dollars it's it's worth hundreds it really is measurable it's the small the

small things in life are worth more than the big things sometimes yeah and you know what maybe just buy a really good chip clip because those like if you get a good chip clip you can buy all the chips because then you can keep them fresh so just do that that's the smart economic move here is don't skip the extra bag of chips just get something that seals them and then always get the extra bag of chips and then you got chips for days and let's bring back one bag and how to be how to be the biggest bag yeah huge bag then it's technically just one bag mondo back what if you get a giant bag and you go into the store and then you fill it up with like smaller bags of chips but as you walk out you're like no it's open I brought this bag in with me just bring back stealing in general

siphoning gas for your neighbors whoever has the nicest car on the block go steal some of their gas out but be careful but be careful because I don't know if I ever told this story the gas comes out really fast because I have siphoned gas before and I drink a lot of gas it comes out really really fast way faster than you think way way faster that's just a fact if you if you start the suction it's coming fast bonk yeah you're gonna do that all right jake finishes off hot seat cool throne before we get to Billy Mitchell my hot seat is Fenway park so two weeks from now we have the captain's documentary beginning and they put a giant billboard on Fenway park of Derek Jeter who talked about irony also what was that what was that red Sox player who said Wrigley's just stalking

I can't remember because I was trying my best to just like just be offline as much as possible but there was like a red Sox player that just bash Wrigley for no reason what was that Hank did you see that I couldn't tell you yeah I did not I don't know it was probably talking about Bryce Harper's dog it was one of the pitchers and he got like lit up and he's like yeah it's just a regular ballpark it's like okay cool like we know you're lying but that's okay I I do think that it was a big time away aren't a league of their own right there's no reason to bash one of them just because you had a bad outing that's kind of relatable though yeah okay it is it is just lash out though that there's a there's a giant G poster on on Fenway it's competitive yeah the

Jeter poster is funny it because it is very very out there and by the way what can we just like this Jeter documentary is going to be the most boring documentary of all time yeah because he's gonna I'm out documentaries that are made by the the people just suck but it's propaganda like Jeter's gonna King of Kong was made by Billy Mitchell it would he wouldn't be the villain you know because he would make himself like look cool but like when you have you need to have a neutral third-party director for these documentaries or else they're all like the same and it's also Derek Jeter is gonna do that thing where he's like you guys I was famously private I never let never let anyone into my inner circle now I'm going to and it's just not gonna be anything

because he's still gonna be private like someone as private as Derek Jeter doesn't all of a sudden say let me tell you every story it's just not gonna happen so I'm already out I'm out on that Hank I agree with you a hundred percent young young girls and stuff like he's not going to talk about the good stuff I agree with Hank a hundred percent when it comes to like all-time great athletes like let's be honest no when it comes to all-time great athletes in their sports if they're doing like a documentary or like a series documentary about themselves and how they're going through you know they're like the end of their career transition the next element it is bullshit when it's made and produced by the person that it's about I agree with you

Hank so have you watched Tom versus time yeah I have and I it was a little bit I don't know I wasn't that's like a main reason of this point that I'm making like I think a Tom Brady documentary that was made by someone where he didn't have as much control would probably be a little bit better I don't know yeah I agree and that's like I think there's a lot I think a lot of it's not just Tom versus time there's like I'm a I'm a docket myself and they're just not as good when they're made by like produced and and all that stuff by the person yeah that was like um you know what one did it for me is the uh Chris Carton one remember when Chris Carton had a documentary it was like I want to hear all I want to hear like the real real stories and it was not and it was just like

okay this isn't as fun as I thought so that's why I'm Derek Jeter you're out you're fired yeah I have the quote by the way it was me in the sense that's Josh Winkowski who's a picture a literal underwhelming on Wrigley Field Fenway has a presence to it I really didn't get that here to be honest I said to my mom last night this place is very stock standard yeah stock standard that's what it was I don't know yeah come on dude it's a national landmark it's a national landmark you were yeah I agree with Hank though like if he just the next day was like hey I was I was mad I was mad I'd actually I like who hasn't who among us hasn't lashed out in times of passion that was like the Phillies player a few months ago right it was an Alec home or someone flicked off the

yeah yeah and then he admitted it and he was like I was mad I was it was a passion moment it's like dude I love that that's exactly what it should be um okay and your cool throne my cool throne is the wild meter we have a few notable ones over the weekend oh boy first off buddy and jimmy bayheim are both on the piston summer league roster so why wild it continues and then this morning the shark's fired what I was just gonna say is that a favor that they're doing to Jim bayheim I don't know I mean it's wild pft come on buddy signed it two ways so uh the San Jose sharks hired Mike Rear who's older brother is Crisky Rear so now the sharks and the dolphins gms are brothers and they both are in the ocean wild wild wild yeah that's nuts whoa yeah I'm trying to

think of any other ocean animals with that are pro sports teams marlins marlins their next gm is gonna be a great be a greer wow there we go the uh kraken yeah I was thinking the kraken too yeah wow wild that is wild um okay thank you jake that was that was makers are made out of water yeah the whalers for IP killed whales that were in water yeah then they became the hurricanes which are made out of water yep that's true that's a fact um that's wild that is wild uh okay let's get to billy mitchell I this is I've never been alphabet more in an interview than I was with billy mitchell just because his presence is incredible um but yeah I think people are gonna really like this interview and again if you haven't seen king of kong fistful quarters we're not just

saying this because we personally like it I actually think that if you look at like any documentary list it's a top 10 documentary of all time it's like it's it's frozen in time something that you'll never be able to replicate so definitely watch it and enjoy the billy mitchell interview before we do that pft you had a quick work yeah before you get to billy mitchell I want to talk to you guys about iTrust by now you've probably heard all about cryptocurrencies like bitcoin you might even already be investing in them but did you know that you can invest in cryptocurrencies through your retirement account that's right with iTrust capital you can buy and sell cryptocurrencies from a crypto IRA and get all the same tax advantages as a traditional

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or tax professional and now here is Billy Mitchell. Okay we now welcome on a very special guest I am we are right now in the presence of greatness not only one of the greatest video game players of all time but one of the greatest villains of all time you got that right and it is Billy Mitchell and from you know you might know him from King of Kong's Fistful Quarters or his hot sauce but he came in with a huge box and he started to open I said Billy stop let's do this on the podcast I want everyone all the listeners and the people watching on YouTube to get the full Billy Mitchell experience because I'd imagine the full Billy Mitchell experience is unlike any other experience in the entire world fair to say I'd say that's absolute gospel

okay yes all right so go ahead go proceed with the box and then we'll do the interview well I'm the kind of guy we've talked about coming here for a long time yeah I've even had people make comments on social media oh you got to go on there I thought why do they suggest I go on there I guess you guys have been talking about it for a little bit yeah we reviewed the the documentary on the show I think last year I speaking for myself in big cat I don't know about these guys but we we were introducing like 2000 mid-2000s around when the documentary came out but we did a big during quarantine we reviewed King of Kong and introduced some of our listeners to it and ever since then they've been they've been demanding Billy Mitchell on the show we're just

fans of you and everything that comes with you well with that information coming to me I did some teasers of my own maybe you know or maybe you don't know that I happened to put together a bottle and I sent it to Dave a barstool hot sauce and I just sent it no contact information no anything no nothing no hello no goodbye anything and then maybe a week later somebody forwards me something on one of your social media is where he opened it up and said wow that's cool and that was all now do you do that often is it like you know the godfather a horse head in the bed you just like whether it's an enemy or someone that you're friendly with you just send him a hot sauce bottle and nothing no return address no name nothing yeah rarely is it friendly but yes I

do I like that just like buzzing their tower let them know that you're there yeah you're watching you have their address and then the next encounter we were supposed to do a pizza review it in Fort Lauderdale and the day before it was to happen he had an emergency had to run so that really did happen but the most outrageous thing was I was at a place in Fort Lauderdale called glitch and I was doing a perfect game and I what do you mean when you say you were doing a perfect I was playing Pac-Man I was making an attempt at doing a perfect score okay and I did achieve it and when I was done I was told that there was a guy doing a pizza review next door the buildings are attached to each other he was a he was I don't know a hundred feet away or a hundred yards away

and so then we checked on your social media and he did it right there while I was playing the game he did his pizza review incredible so we came that close across the past history right there in the same hundred hundred feet of Florida strip mall it's almost too much alpha for one yeah one strip mall okay so what do we have in the box you just open the box hmm where shall we start oh well I want that oh wow let's put that here oh he put the belt on his shoulder what does it say well that's when I went down to Australia for the Kong off world championship 2019 Australian Kong off champion now there's great people there great guys there and I gave my ass whip yeah was it even close was there anyone even close there's great players there however it goes down to a group of 16

just like March Madness the first guy I had to play was a friend and he was he was a cream puff yeah come on the next guy I had to play was really really good he actually won it last year his name was uh Andrew so now brace yourself here you're really going to think a little of me the next guy I had to face off against was my son oh really but that's kind of cool that we're down to the final four and I got to play my son and I'm thinking like can't we change this around a little bit yes you wax him though no so I says to him I go he's good but I says when I go hey I'll let you win you can beat these guys he goes you better not I mean my my son's a soldier so there was no I played I had a good game he didn't I won so then we went down to the final championship

against a guy named Shane a great guy and yes I won love that's kind of great that your lineage is 50% of the final four yeah yeah it's incredible that's yeah when you say soldier he's in the U.S. military yes he's a grad he's a graduate of west point got it okay all right so because I you know it's tough when video games get involved we have a guy around here who pretends that he's a soldier because he plays call of duty yeah yeah it's kind of like when someone says what do you do for a living oh hi Billy I'm a model you know where do you model Instagram yeah yeah yeah there you go exactly whoa these are cool all right these are part of my take mouse pads love that incredible did you make that yourself do you make those yourself well me and my team okay all right

beautiful just toss them around then the other one for what we're set up here to do so there's 12 podcasters mm-hmm two teams of six and we're gonna see who does what love it who you teamed up with pft I actually have no idea oh here it is anyway we got a we got a whole Billy a whole bunch of these wonderful just to put the heat on you guys I got so many you could actually like give some away to the audience okay look at this yeah for sure we're gonna that's never gonna happen no I appreciate Billy I'm gonna I've got kind of a wide open watch them off yeah have you always been a winner yes everything yes I always win always like even when you're a little kid do you remember the first time you won something no but you just remember like always

when I was always very important when I say that I always win always always always for example I came here okay I come prepared whether I do a good podcast or not I'm gonna win because I've made the right effort I've made the right impression mm-hmm yeah I win um I'll go out to eat with somebody and they want to pay the bill or I want to pay the bill I already made arrangements ahead of time with the major D the bills already paid I always win so when was the last time you didn't win something an argument with my wife yeah I never win yeah that's humble pie though no but um when I go places there's great players I can't tell you how many times I've squared off against other guys that are great say a donkey kong I mean they have a good day and I have a bad

day it happens um but I always walk away with the experience absolutely experience of a winner I'm always happy for the guy that won I always you know shake hands and have the right effect and things like that now on your best on your best day can anyone touch Billy Mitchell well overall yeah no but that's on my best day right on their best day I'd have a tough time right right what what current records do you hold current yes that's a tough one um well let's start like with pac-man I was the first one to do a perfect score right and what's absolutely gorgeous about that is other people can do it friends can play we can learn we can teach we can have fun they can do it but they're simply repeating what I already did right there's only one man on who

stepped on the moon first right right so it's it's fun being the alarm strong mm-hmm okay what else any other ones oh that's cool that's very cool poster barstool arcade classic championship is there like one record that you have that is you know the one that you're most proud of oh absolutely it'd be the perfect pac-man because again it remains infinite um and that's the one that brought me to japan that's the one that put me on stage at the tokyo game show and uh it was at that point I would say that I started appearing or I'd be somewhere in public six out of seven days somebody would come up and say I know you I know you yeah after the movie came out it went to seven out of seven it there hasn't been a day in many many years that I walk outside somewhere

or I'm in the public that people don't you're a legend right and you've got a distinct look too no is the yeah so you're going double american flag there with the tie and the pocket square is this like your everyday outfit that you wear around this the only outfit I have I wear this to bed love it like inspector gadget just going through the uh the closet and everything's the same no well the truth is I have like a lot of different patriotic ties you know I have um west point tie I have regular ties too I know that's like hard to believe but um I mean I go somewhere I meet people or I visit people it's difficult for me not to go and be respectful to present myself as best I can I go to a convention people pay money they go in the convention

they go there to say hi and what I would go there and sit around or be lazy or not give my best performance I would be disappointed if I paid money for a convention and Billy Mitchell was there and he was wearing like sweatpants yeah you know I want I want the full experience you're giving your best yeah since this is part of my take since you guys are sports guys who did I learn this from that you go somewhere people pay money to see you and if they pay money to see you you go there you dress your best you present your best you give your best foot forward your best attitude that would be our colleague Dion Sanders close what as a kid I heard that something like that said from look good you play good from Tom Landry oh Tom Landry with the hat and he always had to suit

yeah yeah um so I learned that as a kid and it just it always stuck with me and so believe me I contrary to popular belief I dress very normally at times but not when I'm trying to be in person right right so you mentioned there uh six out of seven days you get recognized and then when the documentary which if you haven't seen go watch it King of Kong's Fistful of Quarters one of the greatest documentaries of all time that is not an exaggeration that's just a fact she said that you got meant you got recognized seven out of seven days right was there have there been any negative interactions are people you are a villain and I think you embrace that do people ever like come up to you like hey Billy fuck you oh face to face that I don't think I've ever had a negative

encounter that's good not once uh online oh online we chat one of the one of the favorite things that I do when I go on a show like this is we play hate mail with Billy Mitchell let's do it so I don't have that in a box okay but but but I'll actually work on that for you yeah yeah I would love to see some of the negative comments like on your twitch stream in and what's funny is I used to but times have changed I would get voicemails and I saved them and so yeah I'd play them sometimes at a convention it would be you know 21 years and older because they would play some of the voicemails that come on from people that I've never met who I don't know who simply saw what they saw on the screen and and have the opinions they have yeah no were you surprised with your portrayal in the

movie because when you film it you know what you're putting out there you know what some of the content's going to be because you were there at the time but then afterwards they edit it and it comes out and it looks maybe a little bit different from how you thought you would be uh portrayed in the movie yeah I didn't think they were going to show me to be nearly as nice as they did they cut out all the good stuff but let me give you an honest answer and that's a tough question for me to answer honestly because I have to answer it honestly they did have a lot of different angles that they played they really played a very strong angle with that nice old lady that I was friends with that I gave the Cuba to yeah they did they played that a lot um they played pacman

angle a lot um so yes I was surprised because we didn't even know the title but the other guy in the movie remember that other guy shh won't say his name we don't say his name around here yeah you don't want to say Steve s w word well he was him two producers and a director they have friendships that went all the way back to childhood so it's my impression and I've never asked him but it's a very strong impression that he had some idea of where it was going and that's fine and um I as I look back now how could I think that I was going to be anything other than the central character they portrayed right um it's a lesson learned in all fairness to him he's got blonde hair and blue eyes he cannot be a bad guy you could be you know I'm a bad guy you

pointed me I'm a bad guy yeah you're the bad guy I'm the bad guy and I've never seen a bad guy like this but um no as I look at it I I guess I should have seen it that way and it didn't matter there were many times in filming that I was guarded on my words and obviously I said enough to make them happy there were times where I said something I said something okay I've said it we've done this take eight times no again again the one that comes to mind is Billy Mitchell always has a plan yeah I mean I can I have that visually in my mind so strong and I'm like why do I keep saying this over and over again and I guess finally I said it just right and that was more towards the end of the filming um if I look back on the the producer um he had terrific I say this all the time so

if he hears this it won't be he had terrific bedside manner he was never intrusive at all he would just pop in the restaurant I mean like without any notice and he'd say hi and I go oh hi he'd say oh I'm he'd say I'm come by to eat lunch and I didn't know if you're busy today or what and I go um how about tomorrow or tonight and I was accommodating as best I could but he was never pushy for a second which obviously makes everybody comfortable um and to be honest he's still like that today he's the one guy from the film that I I still have some contact let me just say this though for the film like you just said you know you were always going to be portrayed the bad guy but from someone who's watched it a few times and

talked to other people Steve Wiebe is you know the film is about him but there's only one guy you remember walking away and it's Billy Mitchell that's just a fact if I saw Steve Wiebe on the street I wouldn't be able to recognize him you're Billy Mitchell uh Steve told me that there's been a couple of times where he's recognized in public just doubt it no I think so by his wife yeah and of course when he goes to a convention people know who he is right because he's walking around with a name card right um well I could have a lot of fun Steve I'm going easy on you he's at the he's at the meet me get the nice Billy Mitchell Steve he's at the meet me Steve Wiebe booth no he he's obviously um hi my name is Steve Wiebe come come say hello to me he says it right above him

yeah he's uh I actually normally before COVID I would cross pass with him about once a year I'd see him at a convention or something and it was very cordial um and so when people say are you friends with him I mean we're friendly right um I don't speak to him outside of that though and but by the same token there's a tremendous amount of people that I don't speak to outside of that there's some players that I do there's some players I speak to almost daily because they're friends not because they're players yeah what about uh Zach Hample foul ball guy as we call him he's a friend of ours he's in in that movie as well are you well I sent him a message yesterday are you still in New York and he says yeah I'm on the upper side and I told him where I was and I told him that I'm

going to go to barcade tonight and tomorrow night and I asked him if he could come down I didn't know if you guys knew him yes yeah good friend of ours he's been on the show yeah oh he is yeah yeah he's a good dude a bit of a rivalry against another good friend Marlins man that goes way back it got pretty ugly for a while but um yeah he was he was in that movie too right he was in yeah King Kong and the thing is whoa what was that that's probably him answering my text message yeah wait that's your phone that's my phone you can check it if you want to see if that was Zach that's a hilarious that's your ring tone yeah that was the text message ring tone now what does that sound like from yeah you don't know I don't think you're qualified to do this

interview I'm probably not I'm well definitely not Donkey Kong you're definitely not qualified I took a guess is that 5050 well that was that was Pac-Man now that's the death of Pac-Man which I'm not familiar with because my guys don't die oh yes see that's exactly why we don't know it either because we're perfect actually I actually play Mrs. Pac-Man because I'm an ally but you do you wait that's hilarious that you have the death of Pac-Man as your ring tone because you don't get to ever hear it in real life okay I want you to read this text message okay all right this is Zach Campbell here it'll be great to see you but I'm planning to be at a Yankee Stadium today and tomorrow so time is a little tight hopefully you can make it happen let me know what's up it's also very

funny and more important to him than you well it's very funny because that's perfectly Zach Campbell right there because there's two baseball games he has to attend over the course of two days but that's like full 12 hour commitments for him because he has to get there for batting practice right but you're not keeping your priorities straight I had the opportunity okay to go to the Yankees game they're going to put me in a limo in the skybox okay cater to me and everything else and I told them no I have the opportunity to go on pardon my take and they understood you're smart so what's wrong with Zach you're smart man I think Zach is just singularly focused on yeah yeah you're bad news man yeah all right so Billy what what do you say to the haters though the

people they're like he cheated you got your your a couple of your scores ripped from twin galaxies no where twin galaxies which I know you hate how do you know that uh I'll read a tweet that was so funny I laughed out loud no no how do you how do you know that that that I hate um I mean you've said it have you not when did you hear me say it or hear me quote it or you you treated I'm looking for videographer editor in Fort Lauderdale Miami area to hire to help me produce content for YouTube looking for someone young and eager to travel no haters losers or twin galaxy community members allowed okay so how did I say that I hated you hated them you're just not allowed I you lumped them up so now you've changed your story they're not allowed so you're lying yeah well you said that

no they're not allowed well no not part of that community has to be independent right so how do you say that I hate somebody oh because you put them in the same sentence as haters and losers sounds like you're trying to wake a lot of them all right so so what what what what is the status right now of the of the scores that were stripped or where we at are we in the court system should we go after well what I what I did um was number one is I had to gather the necessary information that I'll need um some of which is out there in his public some of which will be a surprise oh but then I also felt although I hadn't played serious since 2010 even before that I felt the need to have to go back and repeat this two things number one friends and family and my son who who said no you're

gonna do this and I said I ain't gonna do this and he said no he says we're gonna set up a stream and we're gonna do twitch here and he was home for the summer because he was told to stay home because of covid so he set up the twitch and he started playing and I mean it's my son he's home he's home from college and I don't know I like spending time with him he's having fun so okay so I went over and I started playing I started playing and it came back to me quickly and it was a million points a million points it was great and uh so okay so then we started playing more well so then I I matched the old scores okay and then coincidentally since you mentioned it I get another text message I don't know maybe you should read that one too today is the anniversary

of where I got a a million ninety two um so not only have I repeated the scores but I've surpassed the scores um not only did I redo um the perfect pacman score but I've repeated it many times right one of my friends counted the different scores that were in question what I did was I repeated them or surpassed them like 22 times so the idea that I didn't get them I couldn't get him he must have cheated he's not good enough to get him it's bullshit pardon my take yeah it's bullshit so so you have you have you have the truth on your side yeah one of the really fun things that I did though and sincerely was when I did the perfect score was that fun spot uh fun spot was owned by Bob Lawton the Lawton family and at the time

that I did it in 1999 now it's 2019 I had always planned on going back and repeating it so I went to visit him a couple of months ahead of time and I hadn't seen him in more than 10 years 15 years and he welcomed me he said hello and we talked and I said you know I did the perfect score here he said that that's the arcade that's in the movie yeah he said that's my most favorite thing that has been done here you did it you beat Pac-Man I can do his voice you did it and you did it here and I says what do you think if I come back on the 4th of July weekend and uh I did it again and he gave me that looked at the old man with the glasses where he goes Billy you think you can just walk in here and do a perfect score do you I said yeah who do you

think you're talking to so I went back on the 4th of July weekend and I honored him with a with an award for his participation contribution to the hobby and then yes that weekend I I did a perfect score on demand so to speak we do award was given to him for witnessing you your greatness well no that sounds good but it was for the fact of fun spot what he's created how he's embraced got the industry what was it just like it was your award though that you created it was like the Billy Mitchell award honoring right commitment to video games well yeah it was actually from uh it was presented by me but it was on behalf of Walter Day and it will eventually make its way into Guinness love okay very cool I think I like the idea though of you just going to places and

handing out awards well again since 2010 my favorite thing to do is to go and present and honor and advocate for gamers like an ambassador because think about competitive gamers what they do what they create what they give to the hobby of gaming they don't get any recognition and they deserve it yeah well I mean especially it's the same argument that you know baseball players don't get what they get and the owner gets to keep it all I guess that's not true anymore but long time ago that was the argument yeah I mean back in the 80s 90s oh yes see that's exactly why we don't know it either because we're perfect score guys yeah wait that's hilarious that you have the death of pac-man as your ringtone because you

don't get to ever hear it in real life you know outside of the insular world of the hardcore gamers there were no gaming celebrities correct and now they're on tv they're on like espn espn2 how much credit do you take for the like the acceptance of mainstream gaming as being you know a sport of itself well if we go back again to the 80s where I was occasionally I would go somewhere and if someone who's a hardcore gamer who has magazines they would see me and recognize me that was very rare at an event they would recognize me and other players too um but it was 1999 it was the perfect score it was the trip to japan the story that ran around the world that's what put me and classic competitive gaming and

recognition on the map yes I take credit for that I take credit for having that good fortune fall my way because had I done that score it was remember it was me versus the canadian and we were in a hustler hurry to do a perfect score which he did shortly afterwards um if anything went wrong that weekend if a bomb went off if there was a threat or something big that story would not have run on the wire and gotten the attention it did but all of that energy focused into one time one place at just the right time for it to explode around the world I don't want to say that was luck because I like to think it was skill but yeah you make your own luck face it it was luck yeah well how would you do in today's uh e-gaming like it have you thought about that if you were 20 years old

right now 20 year old billy mitchell in 2022 would you be pro in a lot of these games call a duty halo whatever it may be wow you ask a question that no one has ever asked before I'm not being funny here's the question I get oh okay you're about to mock me no I'm not it's gonna suck for me how come you don't play modern games why don't you do that do I yeah I'm about playing call a duty if I put 16 hours a day in like the old days um if it would be my total focus I wouldn't have a business I wouldn't have a wife I wouldn't have kids trust me there's guys that kind of do that and don't have any of those I would lose everything that I work so hard to build right and so the answer is no I have no desire to do that for the reasons I just told you and I have no desire to do it

because I'm not going to sit there and play games that my kid can whip my asset wait but I I know you're not going to do it no but you asked it differently yeah you said go back and you're 20 years old today correct no I could absolutely embrace that um again I always had a good balance I worked games but I worked career and business so I'm just going to assume that I could do that on a modern platform no one I've been asked the question a thousand times the way I said it this is the first time I've ever been asked it the way you said it so I have to give a different answer that great question yeah I don't know why I wouldn't and I don't know why I couldn't I have a determination within me that I believe whatever I did brace yourself I believe whatever I did I would be

the best at just because facts I obsessively want to be the best you know and you only have one life I mean I wanted to be at one point in my life thinking I wanted to be you know a navy pilot I mean I would have been the best because I would have been so obsessed with it yeah you know I mean I wanted to be you know a crime fighter I mean I'd put every bad guy in jail because I'd be the best I just I mean if I was bussing tables I'd do it better than anyone because I'd be obsessed with the idea of how do I make it better how do I make it better I walked on this show to do an interview most guys lean back on a couch and answer questions no I gotta I gotta bring all this stuff I have to raise the bar usually it comes to my advantage now you're one of the most competitive guests

that we've had in terms of your presence it's like you I would actually say Jerry Jerry O'Connell is also a very nice Jerry O'Connell get him here yeah yeah he'll he'll do it out with you I got a question though because of your desire and I think you are very different than most people because you want to be the best and you would be the best in everything if we could safely clone Billy Mitchell how many of the world's problems would be solved probably only one I wouldn't have to do it somebody else could but no but again I I have to be open to the fact that I see things differently and what I mean is you know recently I was at a convention I thought yay I did it and then I realized oh wait I came up short damn it and so next time how do I

keep that from happening or missing the marker misunderstanding or so every time I do something I'm reflecting back as to what it is I can do different to avoid the mishap that's the way people say how did you get good at this game when you play a game and you die you say oh damn it I say what happened I go back extra amount of steps right there so it's in some ways it's a gift in some ways it's a curse do you um do you find that you enjoy video games because of the joy that it brings you or is it more simply like you like the winning aspect and you like the high score increasing you like comparing yourselves to others being like look this is what I did this is what you did I'm the best at this

game or is it like do you still actually enjoy you know not to use the you know a term art but you know the uh do you enjoy the beauty of the game still I don't know anything about the enjoyment uh it's the competitive aspect it's man versus machine I guess it is man versus man with other players but it's really man versus machine and I say that because I really enjoy and get mesmerized that looking and watching somebody who's really good at a game because I can appreciate that I can appreciate what what went into it um and that doesn't just come with gaming uh examples I use um you know having met Michael Jordan um having met uh you know Tony Hawk um not Michael Jackson but one of his guys and interacting with them and understanding

the steps they took the sacrifices they made you could take any one of those guys and you could pick on them different oddities and their personalities um but what they did they did better than anyone in the world so what is it that's in them that brought them to that point and how do they apply that to the other aspects of their life um that's really cool yeah so I mean many would say Michael Jordan is the Billy Mitchell basketball when you met him did he was he aware of you um yeah I was when I was introduced to him I was introduced to him as to who I am and he said hello and we talked about gaming for a short bit obviously I know about him as well as you do which is yeah be on the pale um but again I I'm reflecting back on

the energy that was exchanged really it was me taking energy from him and his knowledge and what put him to the point how many times other people wanted to go A, B, C and D and he said no I'll stay here and focus on this the sacrifices he made um the places he didn't go because he wanted to apply himself the things he could have done but he didn't he goes because he wanted to apply himself um you know there are things that are lost and things that are gained um there's people who would look at him there's people who would look at um me or you or anybody and say I wouldn't do that oh it wasn't worth it oh he didn't get to do this he didn't get to do that um you never have that feeling or energy or understanding until that moment when you make the decision

yeah um so I had one more question and then I we want to do a Mount Rushmore with you I think someone told you that correct someone told you that we're going to do the Mount Rushmore of arcade games oh maybe should be when I when I go on an interview I never say what's it about or what do you want to talk about or what can we or cannot people do an interview they go oh I'll send you the questions ahead of time no you don't do that yeah let her rip yeah let it rip I like it all right so my last question before we do the Mount Rushmore it's the roback question go to rhoback use code uh take for 20 off your first purchase roback.com qzips hoodies polos everything rhoback.com use code take for 20 off your first purchase the hot sauce element

of this I just love the fact that you are Billy Mitchell uh one of the greatest video game players of all time one of the greatest villains of all time lover of america uh alpha tenacious all these things and then also hot sauce mogul how can you explain that to me um rickies right yeah let's go back to 1978 we weren't the first but we were almost the first one in florida who was serving wings and uh it's funny the guy who was the manager of the anchor bar in buffalo yeah we know it yeah he happened to be a bartender for my dad that had no influence whatsoever but um wings went on the menu in 1978 and we just couldn't find a sauce that we thought was good enough and in 1980 we reached out to a guy who was a president of a hot sauce company

and he said I'll show you how to make a hot sauce better than any hot sauce in the world that this is the real truth not the Billy did everything truth and uh so he did he was awesome he was a great old guy who's long gone and through him I I met and had other relationships with other people going all the way back then some that survived today speaking specifically of johnny and through the years things have been critiqued but it was always the obsession again that we could make or create something better than anyone else so sometime in the mid 80s when I realized I couldn't just play video games forever even though maybe I wanted to I had to take the obsessive nature I had and I had to focus it

towards something positive so I focus it towards something positive which is the family business and that's when we get we began playing with hot sauce uh chicken wings were our main item and then as it was successful people wanted to have it or buy it or sell it in different markets and different stores and things like that so I had the experience of messing with the hot sauce formula the experience of applying it like chicken wings and such and the experience of marketing it so when you take all of the aspects together once again yes I know more about this than anyone in the world yeah can I see do I know more about making it than anybody no that would be my friend his name's john okay do I know more about wings probably not I probably know more about eating it

but marketing I'm sure not but collectively I've become so obsessed that I do number one what are you uh try a little bit what are you obsessed with now well I have three kids all that graduated from college uh boy you asked this personal question I'm on a roll and you gotta ask something personal like this I'm curious you'll probably nail it because you said you said that you go from obsession to obsession yeah there's gonna be one right now okay well I've had the good fortune uh my wife is a teacher of 32 years okay when I met her she had uh oh by the way she's from Long Island when I met her she had two masters okay now she has a doctorate an EDD okay we raised three kids that they all went to college they all graduated

my oldest daughter Florida State my younger daughter is beginning her third year of law school and my son is a graduate of West Point um you're what am I obsessed with I've been obsessed with that for quite a while now my youngest is 23 and quite honestly I'm searching for a new obsession or to expound on some of the obsessions okay don't use sports podcasting I want new if I do I'd end up I'd like to say number one no plus I'd end up looking like like us never mind you would dominate us I'm asking you please step down on that step down before I step yeah exactly all right so with the hot sauce love hot sauce okay we love hot sauce let me Jake loves hot sauce too actually let me try to be honest here okay when you sit here and you say to

yourself gee you're gonna make a hot sauce better than the ones on the market uh I believe you the one on the market the over dominant over dominant it's not even close if they stopped making hot sauce everyone else who does make hot sauce went on 24 hour production you couldn't keep up with the production the over dominant one is Frank's yeah right hot yep and this is Frank's territory here yeah so the idea was to take a sauce that like Frank's make it a little thicker a little less salt da da da da it's made out of cayenne pepper hmm so wow part of my take sauce wow and try some in wow and you got some for you guys and you got some for your audience man you guys are gonna be doing some male stuff I want to try and sample it pass it around a cannonball but like what about

don't you have like another hot sauce in the house so you could do a side by side yeah you got like the t-word to the pasco no I don't come on when I came on here they said no foul language no free ads tap to go then see in some ways it was easy when you take the when you take the sauce cayenne you make a different sauce you simply substitute a pepper yeah habanero that's hot that's hot stuff that'll put that'll put hair in your head that's what happened really I'm being honest this is the best hot sauce I've ever had so man dominates everything in light so this one has again this is the one for the competition with all the podcasters and um so there's extra of these two your big thumbs up guy too which I love in almost every

picture that I see of you there it is good to have it's a powerful thumbs up too I've always wondered like what to do with my hands in a picture it's you've got your thing and it's awesome well it's kind of funny I I find myself I'm taking a personal picture at a graduation I do that I go oh geez I don't need to do that but I was uh I was recently at a play uh a musical king of kong oh my god put on by uh oh well that's habanero so you're moving up this is great oh yeah king of kong a musical in Indianapolis it's come up and the guy who was playing me I had to pull him aside is a nice guy named Luke and I said to the lady Casey I go come here we gotta have a talk with Luke because Luke's going on camera doing this oh no I go come on it's a snap it's a snap you got it yeah

you enforce it yeah and he had it there and then I met um I met a lady named Dolly who worked on the Donald Trump campaign and she says I notice you give thumbs up like Donald Trump I go no he gives thumbs up because I do yes but I said I said when you see him you got to talk to him because he's doing this no it's up in the face here yeah you think if he had a better thumbs up he would have gotten reelected um I don't know it's uh it wouldn't have hurt fair question yeah yeah it wouldn't have hurt so I think in New York no yeah in Texas yeah but uh I also boy it's so bad for me to say this oh but through my life it didn't matter who was president I either forced my way or I didn't yeah yeah you control your own destiny yeah so that's alpha mentality who's right or wrong

I don't know um maybe it's all wrong yeah maybe it's all right maybe you're that you only right went out there all right so no the only left one out there but um so we're gonna have the contest and so one of these six teams is gonna win yeah is gonna be yours I'm not on I was not asked to be in the car so you didn't even make the qualification very yeah it was very mean I don't know what happened I'm I'm teamed up with Billy another Billy me I don't know how that happened so probably not I was my guess is that uh is that he's probably too hung over to win anything let's assume you win or whoever does win just like baseball has their trading cards so does football probably baseball is the most popular one well now video games have their trading

cards incredible and so as a matter of fact oh that's Walter on the cover I have some oh yeah he's kind of recognizable he is I I love how the referees wear referee jerseys right gaming it's a nice touch but what they did was there's many thousands of cards out now for anybody who has participated or had any impact or made their mark in the arcade gaming world again game producers developers players event holders people who do first as far as a company like this doing a event like this it's the first I know of so whoever wins will be back in a month or two or three or whenever you say fit and we'll present them with their own trading card oh wow and their own training card you know will be in there it'll it'll eventually be like one of these

here wow that's awesome so one of you guys is going to go on the map yeah and one of you guys definitely is not because you're not even in the competition I was not asked I don't know where the exclusion happened I definitely happened at some point went by qualifications yeah I have no there's there's 12 of them and then there's everyone else I'll get to the bottom who excluded me in rags is definitely going to win this who do you think you are saying why are you laughing I I have no idea I don't either me neither are you saying it was you no I have no idea okay I'll find out so you want to do the matter I think so I so I got a zillion so I got a zillion of these so you can give them out yes actually yes but I was I had a good fortune of going to high school with

a guy who was the son of a famous guy who made his mark in the gaming world that guy went on to break every record quarterback record at Alabama he was a he was truly a great guy a nice guy and his dad was great and I my claim to fame in the football world is the first touchdown pass he ever threw he threw to me who's that Joe Nemeth it was Mike Shula son of Don Shula crazy so Shula has her steakhouse their shula burgers very good so I do that one okay again it's their own proprietary formula it's a great one all right I'll try that as well um yeah let's do this Mount Rushmore man if if that had like a a proof or an alcohol content you'd be schnookered by now seriously this is really good stuff though the the part of my take cayenne sauce all right

so let's do the Mount Rushmore ready so it's the Mount Rushmore of arcade games okay I almost know what we're doing but let her rip all right so you want to go first so you you know how obviously it's four picks each we're gonna do a snake draft it's you it's me and PFT combined and then it's these three guys combined so it's three three teams picking do you would you like to start okay so I would pick a game you'd pick yeah you because I don't know what I'm doing but I figured out yeah well your the best game well no I was on stage at the Tokyo game show and uh that was awesome that was the player of the century uh but what was also announced there was the game of the century so what was the game of the century announced on the Tokyo game show in 1999 and that would be

the one that I would have to choose what game was it pac-man go ahead and pac-man pac-man number one pac-man and pac-man was also the first game inducted into the video game hall of fame one one great pick great pick all right go ahead Hank you go yeah that's you that's you why are you looking at me no I'm just curious what are you curious about what he's googling video games uh we're going to go with golden tea okay okay interesting choice oh Billy says yeah no it's a black okay are you yucking his yum yeah see I think I think his choice needs some hot sauce I think it's a perfectly fine choice probably could have gotten in the third round yeah no good choice what's actually good about that is golden tea over the years they change it they update the courses it's on and on so

in that respect it is a good choice nice you made him feel better all right our first pick I usually don't do that um I'll I'll go then you go I'm just gonna take off the top yep mba jam one of my favorite video games of all time arcade mba mba jam billy's looking at me like what are you talking about hot you didn't play mba jam no well because I never played pac-man because mba jam came after the golden age of video games so when did the golden age end close in 1986 the reasons why it came to a close in 1986 two reasons that I speak of one is after that is when video games took a hard turn some of them towards violence not mba jam right and the other one was in the competitive world every game every game after that year you'd play a game you'd get a score oh put another

quarter and continue and continue and continue I see you and you say oh I got the high score yesterday I'd say yeah what did it cost you it wasn't one play one start yeah so that's one of the reasons uh hey to win but let's go back to uh take video games now um the guys from midway uh tim in particular recently at the bloomington um con uh we gave jeez I wish I had one I would have known um he got an award again for his contribution what he did what he helped create uh and I throw in mouse pads and sauce and all that stuff just to be fun but no the idea of you mentioned mba jam and just recently jeez two weeks ago um they were honored at a convention yeah no did you honor them was that the billy mitchell award for excellence in video games

well yes it wasn't from me but I did present I did speak of yeah but again more often than not it's somebody like walter doing that yeah gotcha okay all right so second first pick you know what I think I'm gonna go with um with the last one yeah I love it this is maybe my favorite game of all time big buck hunter mm-hmm fucking love big buck hunter absolutely you you put me in a bar with a stack of ones and I will be glued to the big buck hunter screen double buck bonus triple buck bonus I think there's a big buck hunter people are going for the gold bullshit maybe maybe an idiot like you no way you just don't have that killer instinct hang that one which one of those games is better you think I think we should go to the neck go on

to the next choice okay all right Hank go ahead street fighter ah that's a good choice we had a that's a good pic we had it as well Billy's looking at us like we're crazy because donkey Kong lasted all the way to him coming around you would have to you would have to put a fighting game in yes and you'd be hard-pressed to pick one before a street fighter it's also personally you know I donkey Kong is the greatest game of all time you know the reason Billy's here but I didn't play it that much so and I didn't know none of my team did right right but be honest you didn't play it that much because it was so damn hard yeah that's true yeah because you're a beta oh it's your pick Billy you got two okay see what's going to happen here is you guys are

setting me up for the fall no yeah you are just so you know in the audience if I don't pick donkey Kong it's going to go without being picked so yeah donkey Kong it's probably the only game classic game that has tournaments usually on a yearly basis so how would you not choose that and again the Kong off is in Australia in Brisbane uh July 16 and 17 yeah so will you be there no I should say yes so that I can let him sweat it out again yeah you should get them all scared how many steps ahead of your competition are you at all times because you do always have a plan I imagine you show up places a lot of times unexpectedly already ready to put Billy Mitchell out there yeah I actually have two very strong things planned that uh that they don't know about

so you're correct they being your haters no they being um to be honest I don't even think about those guys yeah but they meaning uh the general public or the people who follow it because the element of surprise is always awesome you spend a lot of time like planning your schemes which I respect a lot of people just do schemes half-assed you're you're very meticulous well like for example there's other people other players who could um whether you want to call it randomly or the way that I send something to Dave they could do something they could make an effort they could plan they could conjugate something in their mind they could they could send something that would catch attention they would say that they're going to be in an area they could prepare themselves

for the opportunity look look up luck in the dictionary it would likely say when preparation meets opportunity mm-hmm I try to always be prepared for that opportunity so when people say you know you got lucky well yeah I did I prepared for it yeah right if you're not prepared you'll never do it one of my lines is you'll never get lucky you'll never win if you're not there when they spin the wheel you have to be there the harder you work the luckier you get right again when people say why you why did you get this attention why did you you know receive this interview this award um this victory what separated me from other players from that original say life life magazine photo the first esports event um a friend of mine Ben Ben would sometimes

show up somewhere and sometimes he wouldn't Ben couldn't get as lucky as me in the aspect of gaming he's had a great life but in the aspect of gaming because he wasn't there when the wheel went round I was always there always always always I for the most part never missed anything therefore I had the opportunity to get lucky yeah okay you have another pick me yeah you go twice now and then he comes back around so we did Donkey Kong yeah you got Pac-Man and Donkey Kong good strong board so far for you wow it'd be a um a great game and not one that I stuck on but again I'm gonna stick with the classic age um only because it was it was expected to outperform or upend Pac-Man um was Defender okay and Defender is a great game and many games

followed after Defender but Defender set the stage for them um many people would I I actually don't recall if that was the next game introduced into the video game Hall of Fame but if it wasn't it was one after that but yeah definitely Defender okay good pick Hank Dan Henry Eric I'm gonna go with uh I'm gonna fucking kill you that one pop shot I'm gonna go pop a shot pop a shot good good call good choice do you ever do you ever fuck with that Billy like ski ball pop a shot nothing nah he's looking at me like I'm a psycho I love pop a shot I love a shot pop a shot you never do that just to like kill some time if you're the arcade yeah that's fine but that doesn't belong in the same category as what we're talking

well it's in the arcade okay it's also in the US I mean what do you want me to do they do they have one at um at Fun Spot they have everything at Fun Spot there we go you've referred to Fun Spot as being the Augusta of of arcades and they haven't they've got a pop a shot I've got it okay so now I have to go practice pop a shot mm-hmm come back here next time so I can so I can put ass with you just don't like it because you're not good at it that's your thing I'll beat you like you're you're you hate things that you aren't competitive at hmm I'll fuck you up in pop a shot Billy all right uh pardon my take I'll take that okay all right great done let's set it up um all right my pick our pick who cruising USA whose pick well I was gonna do the next pick it's we've already discussed

our entire thing yeah Hank quit trying to drive a wedge between us we discussed no I'm just curious I forget sometimes you say team them because it's my picks well because we is it your pick are you guys together every time no I just I forgot I forgot all right cruising USA is that the the bike game no it's the car game it's a legendary car game you sit in the cockpit of the car I guess it's got a driver seat I've been playing too much flights and recently it's so awesome but um yeah you've got the pedals right there you steer great graphics drive through across America you can run over crowds on the side it was the first like uh car game that I remember where you could sit in it mm-hmm I don't know if that's a Billy can fact check me but I don't

remember like I remember as a kid seeing cruising USA for the first time being like holy shit this rules I think Billy doesn't like it because it's it's like too gimmicky you have to sit in the thing it's not a joystick and the buttons and a screen they've introduced too much technology it's funny you mentioned that like today's game I watched my son play and he's always using at least nine fingers mm-hmm like what happened to the joystick and the button or steering wheel but you're correct but let's go to your point it's not that I don't like that because that is a good choice but thank you but what came what was the preempt for cruising USA let's just say it was outrun what was it for outrun probably pole position you know we're back to the 1981 now yeah

before pole position turbo yeah both pole position and turbo you could sit in as well not the moving graphics like you're talking about but again always trying to show appreciation going back to where things began yeah you respect the great yeah standing on the shoulders of giants yeah that's the only reason you can see so far I like that too our last pick for our last one let's go back Hank so we I want to do a fighting game too but you know what I'm just gonna I'm do air hockey great air hockey is a great arcade game great one it is it's an arcade game Billy you're looking at me like it's not an arcade game well you know me I always got a story yeah so you're probably a great art you're probably the world's best air hockey player you just don't

tell anybody about it no but when I had to be I was I was it I was in Orlando I was at the king of Kong arcade that we had in the Orlando airport for a few years till the lease ran out and one of the guys that came there maybe you guys know him one of the guys came there wanted to film me and he is without a doubt before today he's one of my most favorite guys because believe it or not in the world of Hollywood he was 100 honest that doesn't happen often okay he said exactly what he wanted to do and he stuck to it and he never ever tried to smoke anything different and he went there we had fun I had fun toying with him I mean I'm in an arcade I mean I'm in my turf and we finished it off with a game of air hockey

and I'm just playing and laughing and he went way ahead of me and then I thought okay let's get serious and so it was like six to three or something and then boom boom boom it was six to six and then boom I hit it in seven six so I thought well he's gonna leave that part out no he put it right in the film he did love it it's great but the guy was a a really good guy and I actually sent him a message that I was here because I never know when he's in New York and everybody comes in New York at one time or another yep so who was that guy Vince Vaughn Michael Bay Bill Belichick Steven Spielberg Morgan Spurlock whoa wow yeah but I haven't heard back from set the guy who ate all the cheeseburgers yeah yeah but no he he was terrific and he's somebody uh

the impression he gave on me I don't want to give the wrong impression here but the impression he gave me if he came up to me and said Bill we're gonna film we're gonna do this that this and that you'll get this that this and this I'd say okay he'd say if he said to me okay I'll have it put into a contract for you no no no your words good enough yeah you know how dangerous that is in how yeah it is but he's a guy that fits that he was I he was that classy of a guy yeah all right Hank your team's last pick our final pick uh I mean probably on the Mount Rushmore itself all-time great arcade games can't believe I'm getting this in the fourth round we're getting this in the fourth round pinball oh you're getting it we're good yeah no I okay pinball

that's like saying electronic game can't you be a little more specific pinball yeah pin pinball is a it's a wide variety of pinball games you can play kiss there was a place in California Star Wars 700 different pinballs not anymore the one I the one I played in the bowling alley growing up was an acdc pinball I believe okay I don't know I don't know if that changes anything because like what you picked right there was like saying oh I'm gonna choose xbox no for my game it's the same format is it not no it's wildly different like what are some other ones then pft kiss star wars what's the difference between acdc yeah there's a Beatles there's a Beatles one that we all know like what's the difference between those games different layout different yeah the

layout's different the format's different different bumpers and the bumpers I don't think you know anything about pinball hey how about if you narrow it down I mean like there was Gottlieb and Williams and Stern and so you could say like Stern pinballs were the greatest whoa mm-hmm yes I did give a plug right there wow stern boy yeah yeah okay well I'll let you I'll let it and it's not only because it's not only because stern makes great pinballs but mm-hmm gary stern's a great guy mm-hmm okay we'll let it stand though but you've just got schooled by Billy and pinball yeah okay billy your last billy your favorite was a cdc yeah that's the one I played I'll look up who the manufacturer is with that real quick all right billy your last pick because I know you gotta you gotta start filming

something um the last pick again I'm trying to pick games that had an impact right um games that are still popular today right uh a game jeez there's too many to say I mean I want to say space invaders but I won't wow I want to say Frogger but I certainly won't whoa oh battle frogs you ever beat battle frogs never battle toads battle toads was impossible it's impossible literally the hardest game ever battle toads okay so but the game I would pick especially for all the gamers that are looking I mean I although it wasn't something I played heavily it would have to be Gallagher mm-hmm I know I always hear people talk about Gallagher I've never played it myself but if I play Gallagher the

precursor to Gallagher is Galaxian but I'll stick with Gallagher okay so no space invaders oh Gallagher was fun it was one of the games that absolutely space invaders that launched games is 1978 but it doesn't have the staying power of Gallagher okay I like Gallagher okay well Billy this has been incredible we appreciate you coming on I think people are gonna really enjoy this um you are a legend you know that you're a living legend and uh anytime you want to come back on we'd love to have you well uh since you guys are so competitive in the sports world and this is e-sports yes it is a skill yes it is athletes yes these people do deserve the recognition and advocation that we try to give uh I was saying last night that if something is done competitively

a world championship on this or that or this I can't think of a better place than Barstool to do that because it's like you already have the infrastructure for that in other words uh take somebody that we spoke well of like Morgan Spurlock no he doesn't have it would take a lot of work for him to prepare what it is you already have prepared to do it so yeah I've had that pondering in my mind all night like wow you're in New York is there someplace better uh gee you guys have the right nature but you have the right attitude is it competitive yeah but is it fun yeah is it something you should take seriously to your grave no that's coming from me imagine that uh no I'll throw some ideas at you

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I think it was our best campaign yet agreed agreed and a lot of twists yeah Nick was incredible yeah um okay let's do a couple guys on chicks Stella Cam real quick that's Stella Cam she's been whining hey Stella's Stella's Stella's uh doing the dumb dog thing where she's seen a deer every day and been like today's a day I'm gonna catch a deer get it Stella no no no I know I know it's not happening it's not happening but she thinks she will uh all right guys on chicks wait there's a poster up in this room right now that says believe in yourself Stella Stella there you go you're gonna get that deer you got it I think if she got to a deer I think the deer would just kick her and it would just be over it'd be curtains I don't I don't want I don't want her to get close to the

deer all right go ahead my boyfriend has been eating soups for lunch every day for six months because PFT told him it's soup diet season can you have PFT tell him it's the summer and no longer soup season or at least that eating clam chowder every day isn't going to help him lose weight yeah um uh yeah you're right the clam chowder is not the best soup to be eating for lunch every single day it's cream based uh and summer time is not soup it's not soup season but the soup diet does work you can lose a lot of weight if you just do soups or salads every day for lunch during the week it works but in the summertime like this is why you do the soup diet that's what he's not understanding it's like summertime is meant to just get fat and gross and eat whatever you want

and just treat your body like a dumpster um so there's really no point in dieting over the summer like what am I what am I trying to get ready for football season winter no I'm going to be trying to pack on weight for those occasions so um I'm glad that he did the soup diet but also a major tenet of the soup diet is knowing when to stop the soup diet and then just going like apeshit on your body with everything else so a couple things one I've tried I should write down all the diets I've tried in the past I did try once to do a clam chowder and jambalaya only as a diet that didn't work um shocker but I was like it's soup it's fine the summer diet thing I I find for heavier guys like myself the summer is like already puts a diet on you because you have to wear a t-shirt so don't

think about dieting just you just know that like instinctively you're gonna probably eat a little bit less because you have to wear a t-shirt so that like that's the diet in itself do you know what I mean it's it's a shame diet that's built into the summer so you shouldn't have to think like oh I'm gonna be on a diet in the summer just be fat go wear a t-shirt and then you probably won't need a second dinner that's how I do also also in the summertime it's so hot outside I just I feel like just by being outdoors in the sun like boom that's another 500 calories I burned today just by being by being slightly uncomfortable for most of the day so you don't need to continue the soup diet although I do respect it hey guys every time my boyfriend gets a boner he will pull his pants out

and say out loud boing like the like a noise a flexible doorstopper makes he lasts for at least five minutes every time he does it and thinks it's the funniest thing he's ever done should I be concerned or let him just ride it out thanks sounds like you gotta do something about that yeah just saying he's doing it because yeah it's like there's only one way to get take care of this problem yeah he's putting it out there he's like it's not going to go away on its own either that or he he might still be at the age where you get recreational boners and not just like utilitarian boners that you have like if at our age if you get a boner it's because like you're about to use it you know I don't pull it out it's like a gun you don't pull it out and not use it but when

you're like between the age of 12 and I'd say 27 28 they just happen sometimes you just get like a casual like oh what oh surprise boner that's cool yeah no when you get into your mid to late 30s you have to be like all right it's time to try to get a boner like you're like you're like clear my schedule I'm gonna try to get a boner today and you can't waste the boner that's the that's the other thing at this age if you have it and you waste it that's a sin if you don't use it you lose it that's illegal it's illegal in many of the southern states now for a man to have an erection and to not use it for procreation all right one with this one I don't know I don't know if I believe this one it's it's preposterous hey fellas my boyfriend and I have been dating for five years

and we just moved in together one thing that always worries me is that he keeps all of his losing bet tickets and hangs them all over the walls in his bedroom he says that it makes him a better gambler because the first thing he sees every day is his mistakes I thought that when I moved in he would take them down but he refuses to how do I get him to stop being such a child I like this um I'm just thinking about like what's pressing what what could like if I if I laid out all my losing bets in my entire life I think it would go around the world like seven times um you'd be a porter I kind of like it just because I think every gambler's had this moment like I I've had moments where I'm like I'm gonna start a spreadsheet so that I can like track what I'm

losing I used to carry around little notebooks where I'd write down every single bet um yeah you're just gonna keep losing it doesn't really matter like I think you just encourage him to at least like at least he's acknowledging that he loses because that's better than having your boyfriend be like I never ever lose and but yet he loses all the time so he's acknowledging it so I think you just let him go with it and so I guess you must live in a state that has like a sports book nearby that he goes to and places bets in person I think it'd be kind of a psycho move to like print out a statement from like the app that you use like have to like take a screenshot email it to yourself print it out and then hang it up that would be concerning

behavior but if it's just like a little momentum also mementos it's like it's just a memory of a fun time that you had when you were betting on a game too this is dude that's a guy's version of scrapbooking I I found the little note so little notebooks I had it was probably like 15 years ago they're a little pocket notebooks I'd put in my back pocket and I'd write down all my bets before I left my house and I would like go throughout the day I'd have a pen in a notebook and I would do X or check and I found them a few years ago when I was moving and it was great it was like oh shit like this they didn't go so well why'd you take like every single over like what are you doing and it was just like like you know like it just like the history of my life and just a Saturday of

just like 40 bets and they're all X's it's like that was kind of fun to go to that back down it is a trip down memory lane like if you pulled out a notebook from 2016 and you're like oh that's the Gucci game that's when Hank hit me with the Gucci yes you go back and you feel all those thoughts and all those memories and the beautiful thing about uh even if you lose gambling if you just wait long enough you'll be able to look back and be like that was fun I truly had fun losing money on that game yes and it's there are moments of my life that are uh seminal moments that are really just around like the day my son was born I took glenny balls gave me two WNBA overs in the middle of the day both lost I'll remember that for the rest of my life people think I cried because my

son was born it was because I had lost those two overs like those are just you know those are special moments that I can I can someday tell my son like hey your birth was incredible but those two losers really fucking sucked every time I see TJ waddle be like hey that's not Derek yeah right it's like little it's a little like bookmarks on your life that you can go back to and be like oh that was kind of fun Antonio brown fucking up two of those catches back to back in the end zone oh man oh my god that was a great way in that way too soon I can't wait for football season god damn it can't wait for football season um okay all right let me do numbers that's the show we'll see everyone on Friday let's see random number generator 42 24 26 27 6 what did you guess

Hank 24 all right here we go pressing it this doesn't count though 64 64 yeah that would be bad that would have been bad but six timer maybe next week when we're back because we're gonna we're gonna be doing zoom the last week of July maybe we should just record a couple from the ping pong machine just for safe keeping we should also do do when we're Hank just has like a maybe a live stream Hank just has to keep playing the lot of machine over and over again until he wins and we call Blake of the year do we put it back in or does it get easier as it goes on no we put it back in actually big head that that should be how we do Blake of the year this year like me and you will get together and we'll assign different lotto numbers to different

Blake's and then Hank has to sit there picking a different number each time I like a full machine until I get it right and then we just decide who's the Blake of the year I like it um okay we'll see everyone on Friday love you guys oh i'm I can play it to be safe and tell me, say it to me Take on me, take on me Take on me, take on me

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