Pardon My Take - Blake Bortles, Ryan Whitney Talking Hockey + NFL Draft

Episode Date: April 27, 2018

The first round of the NFL Draft is complete and Roger Goodell got boo'd so damn hard. We talk about the notable picks including Baker Mayfield to the Browns, Josh Allen to the Bills after a problematic Wednesday, Josh Rosen to the Cardinals and Lamar Jackson to the Ravens. Winners and Losers of the first round and Jon Gruden is drunk. The Caps lost to the Penguins in Game 1 and Lebron will never stop killing teams. Jacksonville Jaguars QB Blake Bortles joins the show to talk about Draft day memories and read the NFL Draft Wikipedia Page. Ryan Whitney joins to break down the suprises from Round 1 of the Stanley Cup Playoffs, who he likes in Round 2, and an all time 60 seconds to bash Basketball. Segments include Sabermetrics for Sean Payton + our NPR Segment to try and climb the rankings.     You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Welcome to Pardon My Take, presented by SeatGeek. Today is Friday, April 27th. And hey look, there's Roger Goodell. And that was the start of the NFL Draft. I don't know why Roger Goodell sounds like Big Ben's walking. But it works. Yeah, I love the beginning of the NFL Draft for that moment. And Roger Goodell did everything in his power to stop it.

He brought out all the cowboy legends. He even did the old joke, which I guarantee you, he's been practicing in front of his wife for a month being like, oh, you guys are booing these guys, the cowboys? All of his wife's secret Twitter accounts thought that joke killed. Yeah, they're like, that was, oh, what a moment, and he also had Jerry Jones. Did you see this? Jerry Jones had to plead with the fans beforehand saying, please don't boo, which had to be the most hollow plea of all times, like, guys, it'd be a real shame.

No, Jerry, if you saw a little smirk, he's like, hey guys, hey, hey, be real shame. Hey, come on now. Don't do it. Don't y'all think? Don't do it. Hey, we're betting that here in Texas. Don't you go home. We don't, we don't boo people now.

All right. All right. That was the start of the NFL Draft. And I love every moment. He also, Roger Goodell, he had the kids out. He had, he looked like he planted little girls in the front row that were giving him daps. He did the Ryan Shazier moment. He was doing everything to try to get the goodwill of the fans, NFL fans, and none of

it worked. What they did this year was really smart. They actually had a lot of interest going through the draft because the Browns didn't announce who they were going to take. If you saw what Dorsey had done, he basically, he told the owner, he told Haslam, and he told I think one other person in the front office, and he told him who they were taking a couple of weeks ago, but he didn't tell Hugh Jackson. Yes.

He told Hugh Jackson. He didn't want any leaks. He told Hugh Jackson two days ago, and then everybody was like, oh, I think I'm hearing that Browns were taking Baker Mayfield. Hugh Jackson is a civ. If you have any secrets out there, if you are hypothetically the Golden State killer, that's probably what happened. The Golden State killer just confided in a bar room in Hugh Jackson.

He's like, hey, I killed a few people, and Jackson just turned them into the cops. Well, you know what he did was, he probably told, because the Browns were flirting with basically every single quarterback. There was a while with Josh Allen, then it was Sam Darnold, then it ended up being Baker Mayfield. He told Hugh Jackson that it was going to be Josh Allen a month ago. And just was like, hey, we'll just let this, we'll just send this out into the world. Some misinformation.

But isn't the draft so much better when you don't know who's going number one overall? They need to figure out a way to make sure that NFL teams don't say who they're picking before the draft. Because otherwise, there's not any mystery you tune in when you tune in. It's awesome. The draft was awesome this year. I'm usually kind of a guy that's like, hey, let's just get it done with. Whoa.

How dare you? Well, I'm a big mock draft guy. Well, no, you aren't because you thought Darius guys wouldn't go top 20. Let me ask you a question. Who do you have on your fantasy mock draft team? Because I had the Bleacher Report guys who did really well, scored me a lot of points. But then the Espionation guys shipped the bed for me this year. Our guy, Tom Fornelli, had a couple of picks that he nailed exactly.

So I did really well. So Baker Mayfield first pick in the draft, obviously Browns fans shit on it. I don't really know if they have any other reaction that they can, like, if they had picked Sam Darnold, they would have shit on it. Like, you have to, I don't know what you can do as a Browns fan. Like, you have to take a quarterback. I actually think this is going to work. And I know that's like steps stepping out on a very, very thin branch saying a Browns

quarterback that they drafted really high might actually work. But I like Baker Mayfield. Yeah, I like him a lot. I think that he is a very, very good quarterback. And I like the competitiveness that some people had marked against him. I like a guy that grabs his crotch a lot. Yeah. As long as it's his own crotch.

Yeah. You can do it. It's self-love. You grab it once. That's okay. Twice is fine. Three times, it's playing with yourself. So you can't do that.

It is so perfect that we basically spent the last six months being like Baker Mayfield is not Johnny Manziel. And then he gets drafted by the Browns and he gets up on that jersey. So the other, there was the run on quarterbacks. It was the first time in draft history that four quarterbacks went in the top 10. Lee Kwong Barkley broke that up with the second pick. And then the Jets somehow got Sam Darnold when they like screwed up tanking and Todd Bulls had their team playing well.

And then they ended up getting the guy that I think everyone thought was going to be the number one pick. So good job Jets. Yeah. I guess so. Yeah. I guess we can say to do. Good job.

Okay, job. Yeah. And then the other big story was our man Josh Allen. I guess we should talk about the elephant in the room. Yeah. He's in Buffalo. He's in Buffalo. So he's in the Bills Mafia.

That's great. No, actually, no. If you really want to talk about the elephant in the room, draftjoshallon.com actually crashed during the draft. So credit to us again. So there might have been a couple tweets. There were some tweets that came out and I'm going to take the blame. I'm going to put my hand up and say, I'm going to say a lot of this is my fault.

If you remember back when we had Josh Allen in the studio before he came in, because we're putting him through like the pre-draft, the ringer that we had, right? So I went back through his own, Hank bleeped that out. Pre-draft BS report. And I went back through his old tweets and I looked for bad stuff because I was going to bring it up to him to his face. I was just scrolling, scrolling, you know, Twitter takes a long time to load sometimes. I guess I missed one or two of those.

And you know what? Hand up on my part because I trusted you to find him. So I fucked up too. I guess we both learned a lesson. Maybe I should have taken more time than like the three minutes before he came into the studio to look through his little tweets. Yeah. Hey, listen, we live and learn.

It sounds like there was a little bit more nefarious things going on where someone had taken the tweets a long time ago, held on to him. Because it sounded like Josh Allen had actually had someone scrub his Twitter in January, held on to him and released him a day before the draft. Now we don't condone Josh Allen's tweets. I think a lot of them had quotes around him and the context gets lost. But there were a couple that were like, okay, that was bad. If there are quotes around it or if there are crying face emojis followed by who did

this fan, you can't hold him responsible for those. But he was a 13, 14-year-old kid and I'm not going to hold it against immature kids that hopefully show contrition, which he did. He called Stephen A. Smith at two in the morning. Do you know how miserable that must be to talk to Stephen A. Smith? You probably can't sleep for seven hours after that. Well, yeah, waking Stephen and A. Smith up from a nap. I don't think Stephen A. Smith sleeps.

Yeah, you're right. He doesn't. He's a fucking vampire. Well, the way that he gets arrested is just by staring at a wall. Yeah. You know what's great though? There's two spin zones. Two spin zones I have for Josh Allen.

Number one, your affiliation with Bitcoin 2 Gen now no longer the most problematic thing you did. That's great. So that's good for you, Josh. Everyone forgets that you were part of a Ponzi scheme for a little bit of time then. Number two, in a stunning twist of fate, he had problematic tweets with, you know, there was somewhere where we were racing and racist and very bad. You know, had different slurs, homophobic slurs, very bad.

But now the most problematic tweets you had are these two, McCarron's old lady, greater than, greater than, greater than McCarron's girl though. And who is the quarterback at the Buffalo Bills? Nathan Peterman, A.J. McCarron. So that's kind of funny that's like, oh, we scrubbed everything like I apologize. Now he's got to go and fucking apologize to A.J. McCarron's face. You know what the best thing is when you hear people talk about all these old tweets and the people who say, man, I'm so glad they didn't have social media when I was, that's

the easiest way to spot a nerd. And they're like, man, if I was in middle school, I would have been tweeting out some real big stuff about my girlfriend who was totally real. And I would have touched so many pictures of my Canadian girlfriend's boobs everywhere on my Twitter account. It would have been so embarrassing when I got drafted in the NFL. Can you imagine? Yeah, that's the only reason I didn't play in the NFL is because I would have had these

sort of bad things. But he is playing in Buffalo. Which is great. I think that's a great fit for Bill's Mafia. I think it's a great fit for, you know, people forget it's cold. Cold, windy, it's snowy up there. Big hands. Josh Allen, he checks off all those boxes.

Fucking awesome. He's got a, is it's time to say instead of he's got a huge arm, he's got a huge chicken wing. Hmm. If Boomer was still alive. Yeah. And then the last quarterback, Josh Rosen. So a couple of things happen here.

Well last quarterback in the top 10. Sorry. So a couple of things here. One, Josh Rosen, I like Josh Rosen. I had him ranked number one on the Big Cat big board because I think he's the best passer and anyone who can have Jim Mora do a bunch of interviews where Jim Mora, Jr. admits that he's dumber than the players he's trying to coach. I'm a fan of yours to John.

Well, just let's stop there. Yeah. There's no better endorsement of a player than Jim Mora, Jr. Hating him. And basically being like he was too smart for me to get through to him. Yeah. Like I couldn't get through to him. I couldn't, I couldn't use like basic language because that's all I know.

Yeah. Jim Mora, Jr. I couldn't communicate with Josh Rosen or puff daddy's son. Yeah. So, you know, that's not on me. But hey guys, watch me play guitar on the Dan Patrick show. I'm really relatable. So I love the Dan Patrick show, by the way.

I love my guys. But when Jim Mora does that, when Jim Mora, Jr. does that, I'm just like, come on, man. This guy stinks. So that was one, two, John Gruden is officially drunk. John Gruden was trying to trade back into the year 1998. John Gruden traded the 10th pick for the 15th pick and only so he moved back five spots in the draft and only picked up a third and a fifth, which is I don't even know how that worked.

But you should get a lot more than that. They usually get a second round. I have a theory on that. And then he picked a guy who everyone said would be like a third or fourth rounder, possibly has that kind of talent or no, has that kind of like you can plug in. He's got great talent, but he's raw as fuck. And John Gruden picked him and then he traded for Martavius Bryant on the last year of his contract and you're going to put him with March on Lynch and they're going to get fucking

high. Yeah. Really high. That's a good time out there. My theory on him trading back is number one, we know that John Gruden doesn't trust numbers. He's not a stats guy. He's not an analytics guy. So I think he's a procrastinator.

I think he's just like, if I trade this pick back, that means I don't have to do work until Saturday. Yes. That's awesome. I'm going to go to Hooters and drink some Corona. That's number one. The other thing with John Gruden is I think that he's just kind of channeling the ghost of Al Davis.

Yeah. This was just a dap up to the old man in the sky being like, Hey man, I know that you'd pick some guys that Mel Kuiper doesn't even have in his binder. So I'm going to do that. And trade for a really fast receiver that has some issues. That's Al Davis is weeping right now. He's honoring the French. His face would fall off.

Al Davis is slamming his fiery pitchfork into the ground somewhere. Al Davis is... And I'm not saying he's in hell because I mean, he might be, but if he's in heaven, the heaven that Al Davis would want for himself would be very similar to hell. Yes. There would be constant litigation against the NFL. That's all heaven is for Al Davis. I do have a quote here from Josh Rosen.

I'm very excited to see Josh Rosen in front of the media way more often. He was talking about playing behind Sam Bradford and Glennon. He says, I'm not going to come in and be an asshole and think that my shit don't stink. I understand the situation. I'm going to be respectful. So he's coming in hot right off the bat. So if you're, I just love the phrase, I'm not going to be an asshole and think that my shit don't stink.

I'm trying to think of, if you were an asshole, is there any asshole that would think that shit doesn't stink? If you're an asshole, you're so close to the situation, you probably know that shit stinks. You're right there. Yeah. You live next to it. My other great thing about Josh Rosen is all the red sea puns that are coming.

Oh yeah. Big time. Yeah. Because it was, what was the hat? What'd the hat say? I don't know what the hat said, but that's what they call their fan area. No, it said something about it. It was like part, I can't remember what the hat said.

Josh Rosen's hat definitely did not say part the red sea. No, it said, no, but it said something like this. It said something. All right, we're going to have to look this up. Yeah. So it was Josh Rosen on stage holding a Microsoft surface and he was saying, here's a tablet. I'm going to part the red sea. Rise up red sea.

That's pretty fucking close. That is close. That's pretty fucking close. That's kind of the opposite of the guy that you want. Well, you're rising up. Yeah. That's pretty damn close. So that's a, that's a funny hat.

He's out in the desert for a while. Poor Mike Leonard. No. He just goes anywhere and gets in there like, yeah, we need to fix this ASAP. We'll sign them and then we'll fix it. First time in three years, somebody said poor Mike Leonard. You know what? Maybe, maybe this is like a, maybe this is like a coach needing a new quarterback and

he's like, all right, let's get Mike Leonard because then when the, when the GM looks at Mike Leonard and he's like, whoa, we need to draft the quarterback. This is a problem. Well, you can tell that this is a rookie head coach, Steve Wilkos, formerly of the Jerry Springer show. You can tell he's a rookie head coach because he's immediately drafting a quarterback. Yeah. If, if this is Jeff Fisher, he's riding out Sam Bradford for another two and a half years.

And then drafting a quarterback to sit behind Sam Bradford and learn from him. And then he's bringing him along and then maybe he'll draft another or make another trade for quarterback. Trying to get the team moved. Yes. You have to extend your shelf life here, buddy. You can't, you can't come in taking a top 10 quarterback in your first year. What other draft picks do you want to have note?

I mean, the Bears picked the best player in the entire draft. World crown Smith probably should have won the Heisman Bears defense back. Okay. Seguin Barclay. Seguin Barclay. I think that's a good pick. Raise the Jets fan. People are now a giant.

People are talking shit about drafting a running back. Guess what? We are now living in the resurgence age of running backs. Oh, I also don't understand. I, well, I guess I get that Giants fans are saying it's kind of snobby of them cause they're like, we'll never be this high in the draft again. We'll never get a quarterback like, like this again. But how like Seguin Barclay being a threat in the backfield and then Odell Beckham, like

that's going to open up a lot of space for someone. Yeah. They've got a pretty good offense, I think. I mean, Eli Manning, he's one of those guys that he plays really, he plays like the worst quarterback on the planet earth for about four weeks a year. And then he'll have two games where he throws like four touchdowns and 600 yards. So he's still got something left. The Giants will be back in this position in the next three or four years.

And that's just the year that Eli Manning, he, he'll like break his knee. He'll break his kneecap and his pelvis and he'll try to play two more games on it and throw it at the interceptions. You cannot sit, Eli Manning. He's got a streak of 32. The Shocker, the Patriots didn't trade any of their picks. Yeah. I was, that was, that was crazy to me, but they did do the most Patriots thing possible

and take the most boring pick available, which is an offensive guard that maybe will move to tackle. Maybe. And then the round, the first round finished off with Lamar Jackson. So I, it's a perfect spot for him. And we won't make the jokes about him playing wide receiver, but if, if he'd were to play wide receiver, it is the perfect spot for him. It absolutely is.

To run deep. Run deep for Joe Flacco. And then yeah, well that quarterback room is going to be interesting. You've got three guys, probably the three most athletic runners in the NFL. Yep. With RG three, Jackson and Joe Flacco. So the one thing that would make me nervous is you would assume RG three is going to teach him how to not get injured in the NFL and how's that going to work as a runner.

I think, I think this is a ligament situation for RG three. Same thing the Cowboys did when they got Vanderesh, just basically as a cadaver that they can cut open and tear out an elbow ligament and give to Sean Lee. That's what they're doing for Lamar Jackson, Earl of our Jackson and Lamar Jackson. Okay. I had two other things before we get to hockey and basketball. One, I think we have to put our hand up guys because I think Dave Gettelman actually is a quote machine.

So he had this quote, people call you and they want the second pick of the draft for bag of donuts, a hot pretzel and a hot dog. Leave me alone. I don't have time to screw around. That's a pretty good quote. That's a great quote. That's pretty good quote. Less from the Gettelman quote machine himself.

I mean, that sounds like a pretty good haul. It's draft day, you've been working long hours, you're hungry. He just started looking around the room and seeing stuff that he wanted. If it was a box of donuts I'd be in. Bag of donuts means it's probably something that you got at a supermarket. Box of donuts, hot pretzel and a hot dog. That's basically a perfect meal. There's not much better than a hot pretzel and a hot dog.

You already got a hot dog doing Odell Beckham. Yeah, true. And then the other thing I had was I have a Mike Greenberg dumb rule for this little war that's going to go on between ESPN, NFL Network and Fox for the draft. You know how everyone, when the first round picks come up and they get a jersey right away with their name on it? Of course there's a press, you know, that they're pressing the names on there and they're making them right away.

I thought they just had the world's fastest stitcher. Okay, so here's what they got to do. They should have a room with all the jerseys for like all the iterations, permutations I think is what the mathematical term is. Slow down. Okay. And then it's a camera in a room and a big pile of jerseys. So it's like, you know, Baker Mayfield, there's a Browns jersey, a Giants jersey, a Jets

jersey, all the teams. And then Schefter's in the room covered in Vaseline and he has to find the jersey in under a minute. Oh, it's like double. Otherwise the pick is voided. Okay, it's like double dare. Yeah. And then the jersey's up a giant nose and you have to pull out a bunch of fake folders.

And Schefter's just running around slipping on goo and trying to find the jersey for every single draft pick. Don't you think that, like, I would instantly watch ESP in the entire time. That plays. I want to make a slight change to it though. I would like it to be Trey Wingo in an all-white suit. And Trey strikes me as a guy who's a bit of a germaphobe, he's like Mike Greenberg's accountant.

Yeah. So he doesn't share bowls when he's on the golf course. No, absolutely not. So put him in a white suit and then he has to sort through all the stuff and watch him try to not get dirty while he's trying to find these things. Yeah, we could do either or. We could actually have it be like almost a competition between the two. So Trey Wingo and whoever comes out with the jersey first gets to the player.

You know what they should do? They should just have the picks announced in different cities in the different NFL cities. But every pick has to be announced by South Palantoneo. So you have to put them on a plane or a bus to get to every city. Just watch grumpy ass South. And you just have a live feed falling him around. What a fucking terrible shirt and tie by South Palantoneo. He looked like the Joker.

Yeah. He looked like the old cartoon version of the Joker. That reeked to me of a little silent protest by Sal because he wasn't at the Eagles facility, he wasn't on site in Dallas. Like he was, he basically said, if you guys are going to assign me to the Jets, I'm going to put on the worst clothes possible and try to ruin everyone's HDTV. Yeah, exactly. I'm going to make it so I've got these weird lines that try that you won't want to come

back to me on a second shot. I'm going to give Japanese school children seizures when people look at my coat. Yes. OK, let's let's talk about some other sports. I mean, there wasn't really a lot going on tonight. So we can move on to, uh, yeah, move on to the interviews. Yeah, it was so fast. What the penguins did to the capitals tonight?

The capitals were cruising. Yeah. And it was a blink of an eye. The penguins are just like, oh, wait, these are the capitals. And then it was over. OK, I'm going to say everything that I know about hockey in the next 10 seconds, and it's probably all cliches, but the penguins are such a good, skilled team that the margin for error is zero.

So they had a lot of close misses. They they got to put those in the net. They were shot. They were got to get them in. They were they were hitting shots off helmets. They had a couple of pipes. Yeah, they were hitting pipes. A couple of whiffs in front of the crease.

Goals that should have been put in. And a vetchkin had that one, I guess it was Crosby's goal. A vetchkin almost stopped it. Oh, that's almost made a big play. Almost made a big play. Damn, Crosby finished it. Didn't see that. Oh, and Crosby made a big cross.

He made the big play within about a quarter second of each other. It was my life. It was my life in a microcosm. It was. And I'm serious, though, when I say the the razor or the margin for error is raised, razor thin against a good team, like the penguins, they will make you pay, especially if you miss chances early on. And they miss. That's what the capital is doing. They play the penguins in big games.

They they have a shitload of chances at the start of the game and they miss all of them. And then I can see the bullet coming from across the room. It's like that bullet in the corn video. You remember that? I'm going to disagree here. The freak on a leash video is coming at me in super slow motion. I know exactly what's happening. I'm going to disagree a little bit.

I think you were I think you were cruising there for a minute. Two oh through two periods, you're feeling it. Most dangerous lead in hockey. And then it happened so fast. And I asked you a question about the draft because you're watching the draft as well after like through like four minutes after the penguins had scored their third goal. And you just look like you wanted to smash something.

You didn't even you didn't even register that anyone was speaking to you. And then I just turned around and was like, hey, we got a problem. So, yeah, listen, hey, listen, hey, it's only game one. We won game one last year. He gets a penguin turn out for you. And you know what? You guys played better. We did. We did play. You're right. No, yeah, you played better.

We actually did play. But we you were you should have won. Yeah, we're the better team on the ice tonight. We're the better team. You can count that. It's fine. It's one oh caps. A lot of people are ashamed to admit this when it comes to a series like the caps pens.

This is our Stanley Cup. I'm just going to say you're going to cast a ticket. I don't give a shit if the capitals lose the Stanley Cup. I mean, I would like them to. But I don't give a shit as long as we beat the penguins. You can cast a ticket. I'm going to cast that ticket. Yeah, you are the NBA. Yeah, LeBron James will never die.

No, that was that was a pretty amazing is pretty amazing into that game. And it was a golden. How come you can't review that? It's the dumbest thing in the world. I was so angry because you can review like a guy with two minutes left in an NBA in the last two minutes of NBA game. Take 35 minutes because any time the ball goes out of bounds, they sit there and look at the monitor for 15 minutes,

trying to figure out if it went off someone's fingertip. Yet they can't review the most crucial part of the game. And what was clearly a goal 10 and everyone thought it was a goal 10. And then the NBA came out and said, oh, yeah, our bad. It was a goal 10. Can I tell you something? Yeah. Even if there was a goal 10, the Cavs still would have won because they hit a three pointer. Well, yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. But you take a different shot. Maybe. Yes.

Maybe maybe you do something to tie it instead of three. Well, LeBron has a lot more pressure on LeBron. It's not good under pressure. OK. So I don't know how you let LeBron catch that ball. How you don't guard the inbound and well, he's a double team LeBron James. He's a former wide receiver. And so he's got good hands. LeBron James is the best athlete in world history, as I've long said.

I mean, I came with a nightmare for anyone that doesn't like football. Yeah, who was the nightmare? Well, because it was good to be on the right side of history. Yeah, because you thought LeBron was going to choke, which is the best outcome possible. And the exact opposite happened in like five seconds. And then the other the other series, Russ Westbrook. I canceled him on Tuesday and then he has best playoff

performance in his career on Wednesday. Yeah, I went to sleep when when they were down by 20 in the fourth quarter. No, they were down by they were down by 20 in the third quarter. The third quarter, the Thunder had essentially given up. Yeah. And then David Stern came in. He walked in there and he was like, hey, you see that guy, Rudy Goh, Barry plays great defense, give him another foul. And that's exactly what happened.

And Russ went off. It was I mean, if you the fourth foul against Rudy Goh, Bear was against Mello taking a jump shot from like 15 feet away. And everything in your brain says, why would anyone ever have to file Mello taking a jump shot 15 feet away? And it was that bad. I'm trying to think of who the jazz can bring out to get them like fired up. You know, a lot of times teams will bring out old players to get the crowd into it.

Who would like if you're the jazz, who's your spark? Carl Malone, it's John Stockton. Oh, Greg, Greg Osterthag. Who? Great. Andre Karolinko. Oh, yeah. A K forty seven. Yeah. Remember, he let his wife let him fuck other women.

That's my favorite fact about a K forty seven. He's like his wife said he's an athlete. So we're going to find him attractive. So he gets to have sex. I think it was once a year, though. Yeah, he only gets one a year. He gets one year. Who they should bring?

What's his name? Ron Williams, Jerry Sloan, dead. Oh, John Williams. Bring back Ron Williams and Jerry Sloan together. Did Jerry Sloan die? No, fun fact. I actually had this exact conversation with my friends on last Saturday and we did a dead or alive Jerry Sloan.

I was convinced he was dead. He's alive. Oh, yeah. I brought Jerry Sloan back. I was so like, I was like, no, he's been dead for 10 years. Totally alive. He could coach the Utah Jazz dead and still win 45 games here. All right. Should we get to?

Oh. It's a break. Hey, thank you. Patriots draft pick Sonny Michelle on his knee. He said it's healthy. So that's good. A lot of people were saying after the draft, like he's got knee concerns.

He's come out and said he's healthy. So concern no more. That'll be good for the one game a year that Bill Belichick decides to run the football. Yeah. So he runs it like 50 times. Yeah, it's sunny. Sonny gets six touchdowns, 400 yards,

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And I was like, yeah, definitely cool. I totally forgot that I said yes to that until you started doing it. Bola Babasi. That was like literally a passing conversation a week ago. They're like, hey, can we do an ad where Hank can't read? I was like, fuck yeah. Hey, my favorite part is that you've never

seen Worcestershire sauce. It's also great that you generally were like, fuck these chocolate milk people. Because they wrote that ad specifically to get that reaction. So job well done, Built With Chocolate Milk. So I know two jokes. My first joke that I know is the one about the weather and how you don't like it.

You nail it every time. I do. The second joke I know. Stuff that was hard. Goes a little something like this, OK? This guy's sitting in his kitchen, right? And he's making himself a burger. And he just takes all the shit out of his cupboard,

mixes it together, stirs around soy sauce, baking soda. He takes everything out of the pantry, puts it on the burger, his buddy comes in, and he gives it to his buddy. And he's like, hey, try this nuke and coxswain that I've put on the burger. I think it's pretty good. I think it's tasty.

You'll like it. Guy takes a bite. You know what he says? What? Worcestershire sauce. Wait, say it again? Worcestershire sauce. Worcestershire sauce.

I don't get it. I didn't listen to the first part of the joke. You're from the North. I always forget that, you know, you forgot the. You never heard a man talk with soul in his mouth when he's talking about food. Worcestershire sauce. I didn't listen to the first part of the joke, sorry.

OK. It was pretty good. Hank, put in some, like some laughs. Did you get the joke? Did you stop listening the first part? Yeah. I don't, I always do that with jokes. Just put in a bunch of laughs.

There you go. That's it. You made me laugh by not making me laugh. So that was a good laugh. Just at least be the guy that says, that was really funny. That was really funny, BFT. BillJockhamNope.com. All right, let's get to our interviews.

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I'm gonna just say it. He's our favorite guest. It is Blake Bortles. We're gonna do the Wikipedia club. He is the starting quarterback for the Jacksonville Jaguars. He just re-signed a contract. He's rich. He's handsome, balding.

But we don't talk about that. Blake, what's up? What's going on guys? So I wanna, the Wikipedia on the NFL draft is actually very interesting. It is. But before we do that, I wanted to talk a little bit

about your draft they experienced Blake. 2014, number third pick. What before, like leading up to it, the 24 hours before, did you know where you were going? Was it something that like everyone, you had talked to people, you had a really good idea, your agents knew, they talked to the Jaguars.

Did you have a good idea where you were gonna go? No, we literally had no idea. Like kind of right before the draft, I forget who it was, but somebody, there was a quarterback that the texts and signs are traded for. Something happened that day. So it was kind of like, all right, that's out.

I think everybody knew Clowney was going one. And then after that, it was kind of like nobody had any idea. So we were sitting there. The Robinson went two to the Rams. And then they have this phone on the table, right? Like the old school phone that they're supposed to call, but they don't ever call it.

They call your cell phone. So like a 904 number calls me, which like I knew being from Orlando was Jacksonville. And I like immediately thought like, geez, like what the shit do I know from Jacksonville is calling me right now? Are you kidding me? And like I looked at my agent and it was just like,

dude, like somebody I know from Jacksonville is calling me right now. He's like, no dude, like answer that. I answered it and it was, Dave called to a RGM and I was like, holy shit. Yeah, no, sounds good, let's do it. Was it weird? Yeah, it was kind of crazy.

Was it weird in like the pre-draft process when you had to take all those visits and all that stuff? Were you a little bit nervous about moving to a city that gets snow or maybe has the weather dipped below 50 degrees more than once or twice a year? Yeah, that was definitely a concern of mine, you know? And like you say, you know, you say you'll be all right

and that you can play in the cold and in the snow, but you know, it's not like I had really any experience in doing it, so I was kind of just lying. So when you're walking into the draft, what is like, like this is going bad. What was the number that you guys had in mind that if you slipped to a certain number, things have gone bad and you're starting to freak out?

See, like, I think I went about it differently than, you know, a lot of people. Like, especially listening to all these kids now, like everybody talks about, you know, I deserve to be the number one pick. I want to go number one. Like, I was just happy they invited me to the draft and I was like, this is going to be incredible.

Me and my brother hit the bar before we went over to the green room. It's like, this is just going to be a good time. And you know, if they call me great, if not, you know, I got another suit back at the hotel room, we'll be back tomorrow. There you go. Did you spend any time beforehand

meeting with Roger Goodell or telling him, hey, this is the handshake I'm going to go for. I'm going to do like a dap. I'm going to do the pull you in and the hug. Like, what was that like? I actually, I had never, actually, I think I met him maybe one time before during, like, because the whole week leading up to the draft,

you do some charity stuff and visit the hospital and go do some different things. So I think I met him during that. But like, I saw a video the other day of like, you know, when I walked out on stage, first of all, I walked out on stage, my buddy was there and was like in the back. And I walked out on stage and he was front row

trying to get up on stage with like three security guards, like pulling them off the stage. And then I go up to Goodell and, you know, I saw the video and like, we talked and, you know, obviously exchanged words and had a little conversation and I couldn't tell you what was said between the two of us. Did you, how much was your draft suit? It's nice.

I'm looking at it right now. It's a nice blue. Looks like maybe some, some light pinstripes. It's a nice suit. You like it? Yeah, kind of clean. I don't know. I'm not sure how much that costs, you know,

maybe a couple hundred bucks. Let's have that little Josie Banks special. Indochino, Indochino. You got seven other suits when you bought that one. Yeah. Yeah, it was one of those six for one deals. I like it. Did you know that you were the last quarterback

to be taken as the first quarterback overall in the history of Radio City Music Hall? Mmm. I did not. It's a fun fact. Yeah, so maybe hanging your jersey up from the rafters there. Maybe retire it.

Right. The board was number one. Were you a little confused when you got a jersey that said number one? And you were like, hey, I don't want to wear number one. I'm number five. Yeah, yeah.

I was like, yeah, that's not actually going to be my jersey. I'm watching your draft right now. The cameras, did you dirty with a little aerial shot of you walking in? Yeah. How quickly did you rush to put that hat on? Well, that was kind of the thing, right? Like they always show, you know,

so like as a balding guy, like you're always thinking about these types of things, right? So everybody, you know, always gets that like perfect shot of them hugging their mom and celebrating. So when they called me, I was, all I was thinking about was like, I got to get over there and get my hat before they like get the cameras on.

You did. I immediately like hugged my mom, you know, shook a couple of hands real quick and like got over there to grab that hat. You went full hug with Goodell. You went in for it. Yeah, you know, I was excited. Yeah.

And then they shot, I'm literally watching the replay. They drafted you and then they went immediate shot to Johnny Menzel in the green room. Yeah. Did you talk to any other players in the green room beforehand? Not like Mike Evans was at the table next to me and kind of just said, what's up to him?

And then that was about it. I mean, cause everybody, I actually rode over, they did like a Mother's Day thing. So it was me and my mom on the way over there. And then Sammy Walkins and his mom, we were in the same car together. So I talked to him for a while on the way over there. But that's about it.

So after the draft, how long do you have to wait to like just go out and get hammered? Just hit the bars and start celebrating. Are you like steered to the Jacksonville media? Do you have obligations to take care of afterwards? Yeah, that's by far the worst part cause like that's all you want to do, right? It's just go celebrate and you got to go,

you had to do all these radio shows and take all these pictures. I think it was probably like an hour and a half, two hours until we were actually able to get out of there and go celebrate and enjoy it. Awesome. All right, let's do the Wikipedia of the NFL drafts because like I said,

this is actually an interesting Wikipedia. And I'm going to start with the fact that before scouting the draft, they basically did it based on newspaper clippings and hearsay. So it actually says that on the Wikipedia hearsay. So my question to you, Blake, if you were drafted on hearsay, where would you be drafted? What was the buzz coming out of like Oveda and,

I mean, UCF, I don't think even existed then, but like what would your hearsay say? Yeah, I don't think there would, I don't think there'd be a whole lot of hearsay. They definitely probably would have gone on draft. Maybe as a tight end. That's a good point. Also, I remember on your particular draft day,

they were making a lot of Ben Rottlesburger comparisons. So maybe that would have trickled its way up to Pittsburgh and they would have taken you as like a backup or something like that. Yeah, maybe hopefully could get a chance on the practice squad or something up there. Yeah. And the other fun fact I wrote down was the first,

in the first draft, 1936, the Eagles had the first pick. So they probably booed that guy, but 24 of the 81 selected players, or sorry, only 24 of the 81 selected players ended up playing in the NFL. Everyone else was like, no, no thanks. I'm not playing football. Wow.

Yeah. So actually when you look back at it, football has never been healthier because everyone who gets drafted plays. 100% of the players that get drafted try out. You're right, exactly. Is that weird just entering a profession where you come out of college and somebody just tells you

what city you have to live in? Yeah. Well, I mean, I guess it's like getting a job though, right? Like you don't really have a choice in where they send you to work. I guess maybe sometimes you do. Well, yeah. I mean, typically people move to a city

that they want to be in, that they want to exist in. And the NFL is like, OK, well, you're going to be here like it or not. Did you actually think about doing a draft day like a forcing a trade like the Manning's did? No, I respect the hell out of that move. But no, I was whoever decided that they wanted me. I was just going to be happy and go play for them.

Any fun facts from you guys on the Wikipedia? Anything you noticed? Just how many rounds there were. Yeah. That's kind of crazy. There used to be like 10 rounds on the NFL draft. But imagine what the mock drafts looked like then. Oh, no, Khyper would have been so hot.

Do you read any of the mock drafts? No, but I do like, does anybody fact check these guys' mock drafts on how accurate they are? No, because the point isn't to be accurate. The point is to help me kill five minutes at work. Well, and also, the minute the draft happens, then you've got to go into grading these players who have never put on pads and played in the NFL.

Yep. Yeah. So it's pretty quick. We've got to make sure that we slap a grade on something that no one knows how it's going to turn out. One of my favorite things that happens sometimes in the draft is when the Minnesota Vikings can't get their pick in on time. And so they just give it to the next.

How does that even happen? So that was in 2003. The Vikings did not get their pick in in time. And they lost their pick. And then their two picks came in front of them. So it also happened, I think, to the Ravens. A few years later. But so the Vikings in 2003, the seventh overall pick,

they were late. The Jaguars took Byron Lefwich. And the Panthers took Jordan Gross. And then the Vikings took Tackle Kevin Williams. Wow. Wow. That's interesting. Interesting stat.

I got one. OK, go ahead, Hank. This is really about the NFL draft, but I've always found it interesting how they spell draft beer AUGHT. That always confused me. It's just like drought. Yeah.

Yeah. I think that's to make you more thirsty. Hey, Blake, what's your favorite draft beer? Wow. Say Bud Light. Say Bud Light. Say Bud Light. Squad Light.

Yeah. Yeah, wow. OK, nice. Yeah. Beach Bar Blake. Every six seconds, a Bud Light is tapped in America. I also like how they used to have the draft just in hotel rooms. Yeah.

So it was designed to get general managers and owners to go to a really nice hotel and then just get drunk afterwards. What do you think the toilets smelled like at those conference rooms and like the Marriott in Times Square with just a bunch of football guys? A bunch of overcaffeinated coffee swilling like 48-year-old football guys. And they got to smoke during it.

Yeah. They should bring that back, being able to smoke during the draft. I agree. You guys want to talk about a couple first round, first overall picks? Sure. So I was looking through it.

A couple notable bus, Tim Couch and Courtney Brown back to back years for the Browns. That's got to hurt. Jamarcus Russell, David Carr, and Eric Fisher, most reasonably. Recently. Recently. Yeah.

So those were some first round bus. Kejana Carter, another one. Some really big home runs. Peyton Manning, Michael Vick, Sam Bradford, Andrew Luck. All those went first overall. Big time players. Who do you think is the best player to ever go third overall in the NFL draft?

Oh, fuck. I don't know. Can you search that? I think we're talking to him. Oh, yeah. It's Blake Bordles. Blake Bordles. I just looked it up.

So with the supplemental draft, here's a fun fact. Brian Bosworth didn't declare for the NFL draft because he didn't want to play for the Colts or the Bills. And those guys were drafting second and third. So he didn't want to play for this franchise. So he entered the supplemental draft. And the Seahawks got the right to draft him first. So they signed him, worked out great for everybody.

That did work out great. So that's just like a classy way of doing what he liked it. Oh, so you're saying that Eli Manning is not classy. Interesting. That's what I was saying. That was a bad word. Blake Bordles takes shots at Manning family. Less controversial, I guess.

OK, here's a little trivia for you guys. Which team, there's two of them, have the most first overall picks in history? OK, so you've got to go with the Browns. The Browns? Wrong. Surprisingly wrong. Maybe it's probably an older.

Well, the Browns are pretty old. The Raiders? Nope. It's the Colts and the Rams. Both have had seven overalls. Little deer. But actually, that shouldn't count because the Rams, one of their number one overalls was as the Cleveland Rams.

So that's basically the Browns. We'll give that to them. Yeah, exactly. That's basically the Browns. OK, another trivia for you. Which team has the most first overall draft picks by school? Ohio State. Nope.

Miami. Nope. You've got to think historical here. Notre Dame, USC and Notre Dame. Both have five number one overall picks, historically. There's actually a couple of schools, like Rice has one number overall pick. That's kind of weird.

That's really strange. What was he doing? I don't know. Rice was paying their players on. Yeah. Tampa. Is Tampa even a university? No.

Well, it was in 1973. It's just a strip club that's owned by Randy Savage. Yeah. Yeah. So Blake, I got the C-keek question for you. It's promo code take. Put in promo code take. You get $10 off your C-keek purchase.

OK, my question for you is what should the C-keek question be because I didn't write down a C-keek question? C-keek question. Who was the number one overall pick in the 2010 draft? Oh, 2010. Fuck, no googling. No googling. Shit.

Do you know the answer to this? Yeah. Fuck. Blake knows it's probably Florida player. Hold on, I'm up on Googling. That wasn't Eric Fisher, was it? No. He was 2012.

He played at Oklahoma. Was that Sam Bradford? Yeah. There we go. Damn, Sam Bradford's been in the lead for a really long time. He's been traded for a lot of number one overall picks. Actually, Sam Bradford's gone number one overall probably three or four times with the picks that have been traded.

True. True. Three out of the top four picks that year went to Oklahoma. Oh, let's see who else would that have been. They must have won the National Championship that year. They did not. Gerald McCoy and Trent Williams. Oh, yeah.

OK. A couple big boys. OK. OK. What do you think? Let's move to, because it's draft and college and everything, what do you think about UCF now that they lost Scott Frost? Do you think they're going to be able to win back-to-back national

championships? I think, yep, there's a chance. Did you see the unveiling of the sign in the stadium? I did. Did you get a ring? No, I didn't get a ring. I was hoping maybe I could get a replica ring or something. So.

You'd probably find it. But I think, yeah. I think there's definitely a chance for the UCF ones to go back to back. Hey, are you excited to go to London again this year? Oh, yeah. I can't wait. That's, I mean, you should get a flat. They call it flats instead of apartments.

So you should get a flat there knowing that you're going to be there every year. Yeah. When somebody's, when you're in the hotel and somebody says, hey, let's take a lift, do you go outside to wait for a car or do you get onto the elevator? Ooh. Good question.

I don't know. And they have tubes. And they also, I feel like we've talked about this before, but they're asked to, not in a homophobic way, they're asked to bum a fag and they're talking about cigarettes. Yes. Yes. Yes, we have talked about it.

Which every time, I'm just like, excuse me, but not just a cigarette. What is, let's wrap this up and let you go. What is the off season, rest of the off season look like for you? You guys are already in meetings, right? Yeah, we're working out and meeting four times a week. So doing that, I think phase two starts next week. You can get out on the field a little bit and then the OTA practices start in three or four weeks, I believe.

Has Tom Coughlin talked to you since he stopped by and said, hey, you played a really good first half and that game against the Patriots? No, I actually haven't even seen him. I look forward to the next conversation though. Have you talked to Leonard Fournette after he said you had bad breath? Yeah, I purposely don't brush my teeth at my house and I go to the stadium and just brush him in front of his locker every single day. That's fantastic.

All right, well, hopefully we see you at Grit Week. I think we might. We might be stopped. Are we going to give that away right now? No, we might be in Florida. We could be getting tattoos. Maybe we'll be in Florida at some point this week. There's a chance we could hang out.

Yeah, exactly. Blake, thank you as always. This was fun and good luck watching the draft. Do you watch the draft? Yeah, I enjoy it. I think it's always cool to watch all those guys kind of live out their dreams. And get a chance to go play in the NFL. Stop this thing I've ever fucking heard.

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He celebrated that Bruins big playoff win last night. A little bit too hard. Uh, so he will be joining us after this interview. Yeah. What a slob that kid is. So, uh, wit, uh, is this the kind of stuff that they teach you in situate? Like no accountability show up late, show up whenever you want to sleep in his defense, he's editing like a million videos for us.

So, uh, I think I'll give him a pass here, but, uh, wit, we have you on because we have just finished round one. We're going to round two. I saw you got triggered online because, uh, people were following your gambling picks, which stink. And, uh, how do you, was there any surprise in round one? How do you, how do you feel, uh, all these teams going around to the Bruins? Little bit took them a little bit too long to beat the Leafs.

Got to, got to knock that against them, right? Yeah. Were there a little, were there a couple surprises? Yeah, dude. There was a couple of surprises for me. I was four and four. I wasn't triggered by the way. I don't want people to lose.

I hope they lose with me. You sound mad. Okay. And, uh, and yeah, not mad. I'm not, I wasn't mad. And, um, and okay, here's the thing. Like I, I, my big call was Vegas was going to lose to LA. They swept them and gave up like a goal in four games.

That one didn't turn out well. Uh, I picked Toronto, which I'm going to be in close. I was right about that going to seven. I just had the wrong team. So wrong is wrong. The Bruins, I mean, they're going to regret not closing them out when they had the chance up three one, I think that's going to kind of affect them being tired. Again, we're going against Tampa, although I'm picking them still, but you never

know, you never know. They have good record in the regular season against them. Um, and then, you know, PFT, listen, your caps, they moved on. Oh, we guaranteed down to all I saw, dude, I saw you, um, at the overtime winter game five, you had like a little, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, wow, that's, that's a celebration for backs of those team winners. Yeah.

That's a, listen, we have to, we have to take our celebrations as capitalist fans when we can get them. And in overtime, anytime you can win an overtime hockey game in Washington, you have to treat that like it's your personal game seven. Okay. Fair enough. Well, um, you should, you should enjoy it because it's going to come crashing to an end, like it always does get the penguins in the playoffs next round.

Wait. So you never played for the penguins, did you? I played on the penguins. Okay. All right. So you're not objective in the playoffs. Okay. Well, as an unobjective hockey fan that's never played for the

capitals or the penguins, I think the capitals are going to shit pump the shit out of your, I've been trying to tell him, I've been trying to warn him that it's not going to end well. Tell, talk to us about that series, the capitals versus penguins. I mean, is there any chance that history will not repeat itself as it has every single year? So remember 94 remember 94. You can't do the remember 94 when you didn't even go to the

Staling Cup final. Everyone's saying it. Remember 94. Yeah. Remember 94 when we lost in the second round, but we beat Pittsburgh in the first round, what a wagon we had. I mean, like for me, for me, there's a chance, there's a chance, but I am biased, but as I'm going to, you know, put my feelings aside and from, you

know, my NHL analyst from NHL network seed, I sit in, I'm going to say the penguins have played them 10 times in the playoffs. They're nine and one. They've played four games, sevens in those 10 series. They're four and all they beat Washington on the way to all five of their Stanley cups, all five of them. They beat Washington at some point in the earlier rounds. And until Washington does it, I will never pick them to be Pittsburgh.

The only thing that worries me is Malcolm's out game one. If he ends up being out game two and three, the penguins could be in trouble, but Crossy's the best player in the world. That probably triggers PFT. I know it, but he is, and he turns it on in the playoffs. It's crazy how good he is again right now. Gensel's this playoff like magician and I just am not picking the capitals. I'm not doing it.

What about the fact that Barry Trotz is a lame duck right now? So he's coaching like he has nothing to lose. He's, I made the analogy this morning on WDVE in Pittsburgh, but I've said Barry Trotz is like John Wick. He's, he's the guy he's had his wife taken away from him. He had his dog killed. He has nothing left to lose. He's just going to go on a killing spree and he's so bad at game planning

that it's actually impossible to game plan against him. Barry Trotz, the only coach in the NHL that doesn't have a nap. Right. Yes. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What about, what about, what's his name? Can Hitchcock, they call him the volcano. Hitchcock, a little bit of a neck, a little bit of a turkey gallbladder. Hey, I guess, yeah, I guess if you're trying to go it, yeah, yeah.

How about this? If you don't have a neck, you can't choke. Hmm, true. Well, I think there's a coach, the coach is, it's just hoping and praying that over he keeps it going. Hope he can be good and Washington's D could slow down the Pittsburgh offense. But if you believe it, good for you. You're a fan.

If you're a smart betting man like I am, and I've been on fire, you take the penguin. Okay. It was seriously though, when it comes to coaching in the playoffs, what can, what separates a good head coach from a, from a bad head coach? Oh, that's a great question. I would say making adjustments like a, you know, that's a big time NBA term. I hear like, we make big adjustments in the NBA game by game.

But in hockey, it's true. Like we were, I remember the year we went to the cup finals in Pittsburgh and lost after game two, we were down to oh, and really didn't adjust anything. Kept doing the same breakout and when a good team figures that out and they figure out what you're doing and can stop it, you got to make adjustments. And that's kind of up to the coach. So guys that can do that quick without having, you know, three days, look at video or the better coaches in my opinion.

But you have to, I mean, coaching is for me, I'm not a big coach guy. Football, yes. Any other sport, I just don't think that you got good players. You got good players that are going to win. It's usually the best players when coaches don't do that much in my opinion. Well, that's good. We got a really good, not X's and O's. We got a really shitty one.

So that, that bodes well for us. You mentioned the Vegas Knights. So I even forgot they were in the playoffs because they handled the Kings so quickly. Is this going to keep going on? I mean, this is an unbelievable story. It's an, it's almost improbable. The fact that this is an expansion team that swept the first round and is now

looking, they have home ice in the second round. I mean, it's incredible. Yeah. I mean, it's a, it's a big, it's a big, it's a big, it's a big, it's a big, it's the best expansion team in the history of pro sports. I mean, just saying something. And the fact that, the fact that they've, they've actually put this together in a way that people just thought they were going to suck it.

Just makes it so, it's so much more ridiculous that before the year, there's tweets, I'm sure I have plenty of old kids exposed, must have some of just people being like, this team is going to lose 60 games. So then look, they had the regular season and now, I mean, for me, they're minus 140 in the second round. Like they have Flurry who's playing the best he's ever played. He probably looks as good as he's ever looked at it. I think this is his 12th, 13th year in the league.

So just, I mean, and then the home crowd is ridiculous. Everyone's crippled and they're just degenerate gambling on the game in the arena. It's like the best atmosphere in sports. I just, I just am stubborn and I've been picking against them all year and picked the kings in the first round. So I'm going to keep picking against them. They're either going to win the cup and I'll be broke or at some point I'll be correct about them losing, but it's, it's really cool to watch.

Even if somebody was getting embarrassed by them. I like that. That's a sound investment strategy. Yeah. So you got the Bruins, you got the penguins, you got the sharks. And now who do you have the judge or the predators? Oh, this is a tough one. This is the best series.

This is, this is when people have a big complaint over the current format that these teams are playing in the second round. Winnipeg had more points than 29 other teams in the NHL, but they don't have home ice in the second round. So that doesn't make much sense, but this series is awesome. It's the classic offense versus defense, Winnipeg, the best top six forwards in the league, their goalie, Connor Halibuck, who wasn't even planning on, they didn't plan on him being the starter.

They brought in Steve Mason to Winnipeg. He wasn't good at the beginning here. Halibuck took off, Vesna finalist versus Nashville, who has the best defense in the league, the best top four, Souban, Yossi, Ellis, Ekholm. They all play like 25 minutes a game. So it's that classic, you know, the old football battle. What's better, a great offense versus a great defense. Tech of Renee is an awesome goalie too for Nashville.

So it should be a crazy series. I can't see it not going seven and I'm on Nashville because I picked him to win the cup and I have a big futures bet right now. So do I. So do I. It's unguessable. Yes. Oh, you do too?

Oh, yeah. That's a bad, that's bad for us. That when you and I both. You're making my dick in futures right now. Yeah. We're, when you and I have the same future, that's a bad, but can I just note that Connor Halibuck is an all time hockey name. That guy was born to play hockey.

Yeah. Yeah. That's a great, that's a great. Great Canadian. Hey, hey, hey, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, all right.

So we got the picks. We will have you back on after this second round is over, but before we let you go, you know what you got to do? NBA playoffs get a lot of buzz. Probably the most exciting first round in a long time. Have you watched any of it? No, dude, I haven't. I mean, let's let's be honest, I'm not going to be watching that.

I'll maybe tune in in the finals. And even then after three, four minutes, I'm like, this sucks. It's the whistles and the substitutions. And with the Celtics are going to game seven, but they were supposed to be so much better. But, you know, you're just a complete joke of a league that they got that Greek freak guy dunking from 30 feet out.

Like maybe stand in front of him and take a charge. But in basketball, you don't even know what a charge is. You don't even know what any of the calls are. You know, layman's fan. What was that? Why wasn't that a charge? What's the difference? Then you got Russell West, yeah.

Well, who's the guy in Westbrook in Oklahoma City just talking about Ricky Rubio in the press conference? Like, how about you talk about the team? Not about, I'm shutting that motherfucker down next game. And he doesn't stop talking about an individual battle that has nothing to do with how the team actually has to approach playing the Utah Jazz, whoever they're on. LeBron, I'm sick of this shit.

He had a big day and hit a game-winning shot. And he's like, I felt like a kid again. Like, shut up, dude. Like, how do you feel like a kid again? You've been a pro for 15 years. Hockey, guys, if you saw Morgan Riley took a puck to the face last night and came back, that's the classic. We're probably having a rapper,

a rapper, a basketball player who like took a basketball to the nose and battled through it by only missing two games. So the whole thing is disgusting to me. I haven't changed my opinion on any of it. I hate the NBA. What about Meek Mill? That was fantastic.

That was maybe your best one, yeah. Give me a take on Meek Mill coming back for the Sixers. Oh, yeah, Meek Mill coming back, straight out of prison. He can't even go home and shower. He goes and showers in the locker room. Can you imagine asking NHL team, y'all, can the dude come in and take a quick rinse before he heads out to ring the bell?

And then he gets out there after prison where you're supposed to be hard and you just be a badass motherfucker. And he hits the bell like a little, like, I didn't know what he was doing. He's just like swinging the bell like he's trying to chip a 60 degree wedge under the green. Like, maybe he hits the bell, Meek Mill.

You're supposed to be this hard ass. It's just so disappointing. Oh, man. Flyers fans, like, the Flyers fans, do you know how you get the 76ers? Like, Flyers fans, what a life they have. Yeah. What a joke of a city.

Yeah, just throwing full pizza and beers onto the ice at the end of the night. What, like, who's going to win? Who's going to win in the NBA? Like, like, oh, and that's the other thing, Miami. One big game, D-Way is going to get his body eaten out by his wife on Twitter. What did they lose?

Four straight? Miami ate a series of it and lost four one. Like, what a series that was. Yeah, the Warriors are probably going to still win. The Warriors are probably still going to win. Yeah. Oh, my God. Like, what, so who are they going to play against?

Like, sixers. Probably the sixers. Sixers are the Cavs. Hey, have you ever heard of a hockey guy setting up, like, burner accounts on Instagram and going on there and commenting on his own posts? Oh, that's a good, I'm glad you reminded me that, because I said if we did bashing basketball.

Kevin Durant, liking, comments, people make on Instagram that Russell Westbrook was the issue in Oklahoma City. If that's hockey, there's no, like, the next game, the guy says, skates up to a war, I've said, when we're out there first shift together, we're fighting. Not like, oh, I didn't mean to do it. And then unlike my life, what a sick league.

Unlike my life. And so I didn't mean to do it. Hockey, you end up fighting at center right. Then hugging after. Oh, man. All right, Ryan, thank you. You're the best. That was the best bashing basketball

that we've had so far. We'll see you after the second round is complete. And just be ready, because PFT's gonna be especially sad this year, because he really does think it's gonna happen. I'm gonna be sad because I'm gonna realize my life's not getting any better from that point, because I'll be so happy.

Yeah, but you're just like, you have to be honest. Don't try to play off like the PMT, PFT, like I don't really care. Be honest and show how rattled you'll be when they lose. I, listen. I be really rattled. I'm so invested in this. Yeah, jump in the East River.

He's jumping in the East River if they lose. I'm concerned about how invested in this. He's jumping in the East River. All right, thanks. Thanks, man. Talk to you later. All right, wish you no luck, PFT, later. Fuck off.

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Yeah, this comes to us from Sean Payton down in New Orleans. He was asked about trading up in the first round and giving up a lot of currency to get there. His response was, it appears to be a lot, but shoot, what's our country's national debt? That's a great excuse. Great, great point. Listen, as far as I'm concerned, the two best excuses

of all time are, I had diarrhea. Nobody asks you any more details. I do right now, actually, currently. And what's up with our country's national debt? We're bucked on troll. Yeah, or don't troll Willis is a pretty good one. Yeah, like, hey, do you know how much money we owe to China? Yeah, what the fuck does it matter?

This is a drop in the hat. Yeah, he should have just said, you know, we're all going to die one day. So might as well just go for it. This actually all means nothing. Can't take draft picks with you. It's just a game. It's actually the most New Orleans move of all time.

Yeah. Because if you've ever been to New Orleans on, I don't know, a vacation, bachelor party, just blacked out and lived there for three weeks and not realized how you got there, the last thing that you want to do is look at your bank account and see, number one, what you spent your money on.

And number two, how much money's left in there. So this is actually a good culture fit, I think, for Payton. Yeah, there's nothing worse than the Monday morning. Like when you're right out of college, the Monday morning looking at your bank account after a long weekend, you say, ugh. Or you leave your card at a bar and you're like, you know what, I'm just never going to get it

because I probably shouldn't have a card anyway. Like, I don't need a credit card because it's getting bad. Yeah, yeah, that's a tough place to be. You look at your statement and it's all a bunch of red. It's all a bunch of red. And then all your expenses are $12 purchases at the store that's on the corner next to your apartment. And it's all for like a 12 pack of natural light.

Repeatedly, though. Yeah. Instead of getting a keg, instead of doing something that's more economical, you've just been walking back and forth. Or you realize that you've been so drunk that you spent more money on ATM fees than actual money you took out.

Because you're just like, well, I mean, I'm just going to keep going to the ATM at the bar here. It's like $7 per ATM fee. Okay, we have, next up, what do we call this segment? So it goes back a little bit. We've been tracking the podcast numbers for the last six or eight months. And I think we're doing pretty well.

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Nationally, but ahead of us. Globally. Globally, globally. Not even sports, anything. We're talking 15th biggest podcast in the world. Yeah, in the universe. In the universe. In this universe.

We don't know if aliens have podcasts yet. So, well, of course they do. Everyone has a podcast. Yeah, yeah. Although there's no Brooklyn in. It's a bunch of white aliens. Yeah, in Brooklyn. Yeah.

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Spread Love It's the Brooklyn Way, The Life and Times of Christopher George Latour, Wallace, a.k.a. the notorious B period, I period, G, is now available on Amazon. Irving. Thank you, Joaquin. I appreciate you having me on the show, certainly. It's always a treat to be in the podcasting studio

and get back in front of my audience, you know? Step to the mic is what they say, and hopefully I'll drop it at the end of this. Hip-hop artist Kanye West has been stirring up a storm online recently, becoming somewhat of a darling of the alternative right, going on a Foucault-like tangent of alternatingly philosophic and provocative tweets

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It will be interesting to see in the 2020 election as Kanye is tipped his hand as he is indicating a potential run for public office, and this is creating some beef in the rap community as many other artists do not share his views. Back to you, Joaquin. Thank you, Irving, and that was the program today. We end the program as we end every single one

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