Pardon My Take - Blake Griffin, Actor Owen Wilson, Oilers Back From Dead, Pacers Take Game 3 + Fyre Fest Of The Week

Episode Date: June 13, 2025

The Oilers are back from the dead after an unreal Game 4 in the Stanley Cup Playoffs. We try to get an answer from the Chiclets boys on whether Skinner will be back in this series and talk more playoff hockey (00:00:00-00:16:45). US Open has arrived and the course had a mixed day but Brooks may be back (00:16:45-00:25:24). The Pacers take Game 3 and we're starting to believe after SGA and the Thunder looked scared in the 4th quarter Wednesday night (00:25:24-00:53:02). We talk some NFL news and the Bengals are doing fuck shit again (00:53:02-01:08:51). Blake Griffin joins the show to catch up, talk some NBA Finals, his new gig at Amazon next year, legacies, how to work on his hot takes and more (01:08:51-01:47:59). Actor Owen Wilson joins the show to talk about his new show on Apple TV, Stick, his career in Hollywood, Cars, saying Wow too much and tons more (01:47:59-02:11:49). We finish with Fyre Fest of the week (02:11:49-02:36:19).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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And the Edmonton Oilers are very much alive. What a game PFT. The Oilers were down three nothing in the first period. They were deader than dead. Felt like it was a coronation for the Panthers. They fight all the way back. They tie it three three. They go up four three and then they give up a goal with 20 seconds left to go to overtime and then Leon dry side. Fourth overtime goal in these playoffs. Insane. That was Puck baby. That was some great Puck. Yeah. It's been great. That would, what an incredible game. It had everything. All these games have added everything in this one. We even had a goalie getting benched in the first period. Uh, Skinner gave up three goals to start the game, got them out of there. If you were to inject them with truth serum, would you do you think he wanted the oilers to, would he want them to win the Stanley cup

if he was benched? Hmm. Well, yes, because he probably he would, he would come back. So yeah, yeah, I think so. That'd be a tough one to come back from. It's still the whole, you'd want your boys to win. Yeah, you want your boys to win. But he I mean he he's gonna start he's gonna start game five. You think so? Yeah, I think they'll go back to him I don't know. Maybe not. I don't know. Yeah, maybe not Maybe not. I mean he's got him there a obviously the last two whatever four periods have not looked good losing 6-1 and then tonight in the first period but I don't know yeah I got I actually have no idea if they'll go back to him yeah I think

if they do go back to him that would be a big risk from from the coach and if they don't go back to him I feel like that's the less risky play at this point yeah hold on I'm gonna text Jans and ask him right now what he because he's a Panthers fan. This would be good Do you want to go back to Skinner or not? Yeah, okay them to go back To Skinner I've got to the point now because I don't know if you're the same Watching this particular sailing cup finals when the game doesn't go to overtime. I'm pissed off

Yeah, I mean it's been incredible watching this particular Stanley Cup finals when the game doesn't go to overtime. I'm pissed off. Yeah, I mean it's been incredible. We had we had one clunker of a game. The other three have been just instant classics And like I said, Leon dry side of fourth overtime goal in in these playoffs insane, dude. I think I saw the stat it was a teams are 20 earth. I think it's 27 and oh no 37 and oh maybe or I think it's 27 and 0, no 37 and 0 maybe, went up three plus goals at the end of the first period in the Stanley Cup final. So 37 and 0, now 37 and 1 after the Panthers blew that. And it was over. It felt very much over and the Oilers just kept, there was like a five minute stretch in the second period where they just kind of woke up and took the game back and the

Panthers were like stunned. I think the Panthers thought it was over as well because they, they, they just didn't have the same edge. And, uh, it's awesome. The whole, it's just great. Great puck. We've had great puck. We've had great ball too. I actually have, I've got the NHL up three games to two against the NBA in the finals. Ooh, okay. So Friday night is a must win. Yeah, the NBA to extend the series. I think that's fair scoring. You know who else thought that the game was over? It was not just the Florida Panthers. Who? Our good friend Paul Bisson that Oh, yeah, after the first period. Yeah, oil got nothing. They have no room.

Anaconda chokehold game over. The Anaconda chokehold is that's Yeah, after the first period. Yeah oil got nothing. They have no room Anaconda chokehold game over the Anaconda chokehold is that's You only break that out if you a hundred percent you break that out after the game Yeah, and a shot Anaconda chokehold was 40 minutes left in the game is it feels Feels you know what though? We all make those tweets. I've never, we all make those tweets. We all tweet with passion. I was going to say, uh, if we're doing stars for the game, I think the, the, the guy who deserves all the credit for the oilers is not Leon dry saddle is not Connor McDavid. Taylor Swift. Well, Taylor Swift, that was, we had some flashbacks to, to watching NFL sun. It was actually the first time that the NFL is coming

back where they just kept on going to Taylor Swift during the game. We're like, what? Okay. Uh, it's not, it's not Pickard who came in for Skinner. Uh, it's beans guy. I don't know if you saw this. I saw the beat. I don't, I don't, I don't get the beans guy. What? So explain the beans guy to me. Okay. So this is a young booze 69 shout young booze 69 the juice man after the first period he he's an oilers fan. He was sitting on his back porch and he said to two pounds of rally baked beans. That's how you lead from the front. And he started eating two pounds of baked beans big Tupperware container. The oilers came back. He was like halfway through the, the, I think the third period he's like, I'm going to throw up. This is getting really

tough to do. Uh, thank God I've had enough whiskeys to shove two more pounds of beans down my throat. So he just kept on going. He kept on just pounding beans and uh, he brought the oilers back. I I'm willing to give him the start of the game if he finished the beans. I think he not only finished the beans, I think he reloaded the beans. Let me see. What's it? Rally Booze 69? Young Booze 69. Is it Y-U-N-G? The correct spelling of Young Booze with a Z, 69.

You know what? I'm just going to look up Rally Beans. Yeah. I mean, Rally Beans rally beads. You gotta give him credit. He went all out. He went all out for the team. The team was was in a dire situation and he went all out for the team. Shout out to pick and save screaming two for one deal and family size baked beans can't pass something like that up. That's true. He said dripping in oil. Yeah, what a fucking win. Never doubt bushes baked pass something like that up. That's true. Is it dripping in oil? Yeah. What a fucking win. Never doubt bushes baked beans.

Yeah, dude. This guy was just pounding beans. Okay. Came all the way back. I don't see. I want to give him some credit, but I don't know if I can make him start the guy. I see no, no info that he finished the beans. I think he reloaded the beans because he said he drank enough whiskey to have another two pounds job You got it. You got to finish the job. I will give him I'll give him one of the stars isn't the proof in the pudding though. They came back. They won the game They did it was it was incredible come back. It looked the first period was like all Panthers and there were times in overtime

It looked like it was all Panthers too. Yeah. Yeah, I mean there was a there was a all Panthers and there were times in overtime it looked like it was all Panthers too. Yeah, yeah. I mean there was a there was a the Panthers was it it was it a crossbar or a post that they hit that would that felt like it was it was over and it was just like up and there was that stretch where the Oilers had their their their D on the ice for like a minute and 45 and you could you could tell that it was like getting to that precarious situation in overtime. We're like, these guys are gassed and they're going to make a mistake and you can't make a mistake in overtime. But then Leon dry saddle coming off the bench, just throwing the pocket at the net. Like he, that wasn't even a really

a shot. It was a one-handed shot where he's like, let's just make something happen. And those types of goals win games Yeah, I think it was off the crossbar. I think the save of the night was the shot to the face The rarely seen shot to the face. I think it dented his face mask to yeah the point where the refs had to the step And it'd be like hey man, you okay? Yeah, I'm a hockey player. I'll be fine We didn't wear face masks until like ten years ago. Thanks a good point. All right, let's keep playing. Yeah. All right Yans hasn't gotten back to me. Neither has Whitney. I'm going to try to call Whitney real quick to see if we can just get a Skinner update. Okay. I also sent him the Riverside, so, but I doubt he's going

to join. He's probably he Whitney's in the point of the week in Florida where he did a postgame video and he has no voice left. I saw a clip of the two goalies after the game and they were like shaking hands and it looked it honestly looked like they did a handshake line after the two goalies to each other. We saw a real life passing the torch. That's what I'm thinking. Yeah. All right. Whitney's not picking up. We'll try it. We'll try Grinnell as handler and if that doesn't happen we'll just go without any any of our guys what do you I mean what did you see oh bad sports town yep how do the battle

how do South Florida fans not learn after Ray Allen I don't know how you would think that of all the sports towns in America that would be the one that would be sure to have enough energy to stay through the end of the game that and just like you have the like probably the number one. And when you think of fans leaving early and it going the other way, you think of Ray Allen. You do. But I think that Panthers fans might be different from heat fans.

And I also think that like true Miami heat fans, like true Miami sports fans, they wouldn't learn shit from that lesson. That's true. All right. We're going to give one try one try to Grinnelli and if we can't get him we're just going to keep going with some US Open talk. We also have a the amount of tweets I'm getting about going to game seven or getting trouble. Yeah I'm getting quite a few. I think. Hey are are you with Wit? No, I'm not allowed in his box. He told me. He saw my nose and he told me I was not allowed anywhere near his box. That also goes for Merle's, Niamh's, and Colby as well. He said they're not allowed anywhere near his box. Wait, so is he alone right now? I know he's with, he's with our photographer. He's also with Pasha. It's just, yeah, it's just, okay. I have no

idea. All right. Wait, wait, wait. Are you with Murls? I am with Murls. Put Murls on the phone real quick. All right. Got you. This is you. They've been in Florida. They've been in Florida for like seven days. Where'd Burgo go? They can't find anyone. This is awesome. Will's in the bathroom. I'm sorry. Give me Arm Dog. Where's Armie? Ask him how long you think he's gonna be in the bathroom for. Armie left? Who's there? We got memes, girls in the bathroom, faces on TNT, and we won't let us hit a spot. And Yans is gone. You guys are a mess

All right, give me memes give me memes Other memes Chickletts has a memes too All right, you're on PMT Hey you're Hey, what's up? Hey, what's up? Hey, you're what we we just had to go down the line of of Chicklets guys. So, we're going

to ask you do the oilers do the oilers go go back to Skinner. Yeah, they're going Skinner for sure. Girls is here too now if you want them. Hey, let's ask him. Hey, of course, I'm just Kyrie back up. Here we go. What's that? Are we live? Yeah, we're live. Hey, Murls, does the do the oilers go back to Skinner?

No, no. Oh, you think he's done for the series? Yes. So what happens in hockey is when you put a weaker goalie in all the guys smarten up and play a little tighter, a little smarter, they start blocking shots. If you look back in the old, um, I forget what year it was this guy, the hamburger. Do you remember him for Ottawa, the goalie? Sure. Andrew Hammond, he went 20 and one, he was like from the third league, the East Coast hockey league, and they brought them up to Ottawa and they threw them in the net and all the players knew that like if they let a shot go through, it was going in the net. So they all just started blocking every shot and then

just like not making high risk plays. So they just played such a simple game and then they eventually win the game. So that's what happens with Picker. Okay. So you think that you think skinner's done for the series? I think he's done for next game. Okay. For next game. So he could be back in the series. You play the hot hand. Okay. Wait, wait, wait. He's on hinge. Yeah. He kicked you guys out of the box. He's yelling and screaming at some of his best friends in life to get away from him because they scored two goals when we weren't next to him. So he kicked us out of the suite. We had to leave. We're like, dude, but we were there for the first goal to start to

come back. He's like, no, but you weren't here for the second and third goal. Screaming and yelling at me kicked me out of the suite we were in. Okay. All right. All right. Thank you, Merle's. We appreciate it. Alright. I'll talk to you later. Oilers and six. Oilers and six. Wow. I like that. Save us a trip to Edmonton. Alright. I don't want to go to Edmonton. I heard you're in now. Yeah. Maybe. Maybe. Alright. Alright. See ya. Love you guys. Love you too. Bye. Merle's is the best. The moss pit looked awesome tonight. The moss pit looked incredible. Yeah. The, the, the what's her name? The woman who dresses in all silver. Fuck. Yeah. She doesn't mama Stanley. I believe she doesn't really react that much.

She just raises the sign that says believe or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. She's very, um, very demure. Incredible game. Incredible game. Um, all right. So maybe they go hot hand. I, Yans did text me back, but he hasn't. He just wrote back to me. Question mark. I don't care. I said, do you want them to go back to Skinner or not? He said, me, I don't care. I have a question for you. Big cat has, has hockey tricked us into saying free hockey Just by taking away the fourth quarter and then whenever it gets to the fourth quarter

We're so grateful to have a fourth quarter. That's good point. That's good point. I mean, I still love it. Don't get me wrong I love overtime hockey in the playoffs, but I really wish I really wish we had gone gotten to that eighth over time So we get the rules in the envelope in Toronto. They actually just call it a tie. Yeah. All right. Should we talk a little US Open real quick?

The Open Championship. Yeah. The US Open wasn't impressed with the golf course. A lot of talk about the golf course. Then we got all the excuses from everyone right after being like, oh, it's soft. It's soft. The golf course is soft. Um, I still wasn't impressed. Uh, I think that the golf course had a decent opening round. It was okay, but I was expecting, I was expecting like carnage everywhere.

Like I was guys under par. I wanted no guys under par. I wanted carnage everywhere to play, but the course is gonna firm up Hank The way that it was talked about true or false They were saying that this was like the most impossible golf course of all time There's six guys on their par after one round that that six too many. I think there were ten guys that didn't have a birdie today six too many. I think that, uh, I think that big cats right in that the course was talked about, like we expected golfers to be bleeding when they left the

course. Like there would be golfers spitting their teeth out. They'd be bleeding from the nose. They'd be puking. And so far the best that we got was just like some guys losing their balls in the rough. But I do think, I do think Hank's right that this is what happens with the course. It's the opening round. The course will look, it will rain on Sunday into a false sense of security. Yeah. It rained last Sunday. So we're getting drier. What did I say? I said, just if I wasn't impressed today. And by the way, just to the point of correction, because Hank is our golf expert, there were 10 guys under par today and there were 19 guys that were even or better. That's not a lot.

That's too many for the calls. For the way they pumped this thing up, I wanted zero, I wanted the best, I wanted the winning score after the first round to be plus three. Well, what about this? When Siwoo Kim, when he did his post-match interview, or post-round interview, he said, honestly, I don't even know what I'm doing on

this course. I feel like this course is too hard for me. Yeah. And he was, and he was too under. Yeah. And he's, yeah, he's in third place. Yeah. Incredible. And also our guy Brooks, listen, there's a lot of golf to be played, but he had a great round, probably his best round in a major in a long time. And also he had a press conference that made me think that he might have his swagger back. Did you see this? Where he was... So the question that was asked was, question, everyone always points back to the comment at BethPage, five, ten players, whatever can win this week.

Do you still think of yourself that way or has it changed at all? Brooks replied, I mean, I don't talk about it. You guys talk about it. Then the quote, then the, uh, the journalist said, it was your quote though. And Brooks said, it was, I said it once and now everyone repeats it. I'm talking about my quote. He got his swagger back. He gets pissed off. It's like, you're copying me. Yeah, right. Exactly stealing my words I'm not saying my words right now. You're saying my words to me. They're not even your words. They're mine Pft, what do you we think the boys in the booth are talking about because they've just have been having a conversation off Mike

I'm sorry my my Let me answer it's whatever those three kids in the basement around a coffee table We're talking about when they're doing the podcast Yeah, they're just hey, they're just chit chatting it up with their mics off while we're just trying to do the show. That was no, I mean, that was, I have a buddy from Miami who's been face on me, face on me, face on me, one stop. And I finally answered just to tell him to shut up. And he was with Grinnelli and they're just, they're buckled. So it was a funny full circle moment.

Oh man. The chickless guys are, are in disarray right now. One thing that we do need to do though, the best part about that whole entire exchange with the chickless guys is just like Grinnell was just being like, business of their guys. We got one guy in the bathroom, one guy over here, business on TNT. Business on television talking to Wayne Gretzky like he likes to do. What are you going to say? Uh, I forget. We're talking about golf. Uh, yeah. Yeah. What we need to do is we need to just keep an eye on the leaderboard. And the second that Brooks takes first place, God willing, then at that point, big guy, you need to stop talking trash about the course and you need to start

gassing the course up. That's fine. Listen, because at that point, at that point it's like Brooks is dominating at the hardest course ever invented. I am. If the course answers tomorrow, I'm not. I'm not making a final judgment on this course. All my only point was the way this course was talked about. I wanted it to be a lot harder and I know it's very hard and I know there's 10 guys

only 10 guys under par, but like it's the hype. The hype was so insane where guys are saying like, you know, I saw like they were interviewing, um, a bunch of pros being like, what is a 10 handicap shoot on this course? And there were like 180, 160. They don't finish like they don't, they would lose every ball. So it's like, I just kept on hearing all this stuff and I want it to be that I want it to be so excruciating. Uh, and I listen, if it's going to firm up, I'm in, I'm in, I want the course to fight back. I also want it to be that. I want it to be so excruciating. Uh, and I, listen, if it's going to firm up, I'm in, I'm in, I want the course to fight back. I also want Brooks to win, but I want the course to fight back. It's going to fight back. It's going to bake

out a little bit. There was one piece of course propaganda that they put out that I, at that point I knew they were going too far and hyping it up. And that's when we had multiple golfers, uh, doing their approach shot from 120 yards with a putter to show how dry it was. When that happened, I was like, wait a second, that's actually really easy. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, you could do the putter thing. Yeah.

I could get a par on that hole just using my putter. It was that, and then it was the army of lawnmowers when they had them just marching around and being like, well, they actually get it so the grass stands up. So it's even more impossible to find. I get it. I love the US open. I love that they make it really hard. Just tone it down if it's not going to be as hard. If it's not going to, I want the winner to be plus, you know, I want it to be be over par. The guys with the lawn mowers, there was one where they're standing in the bunker and they've got the lawnmowers above

them, mowing the side of the bunker. And I thought it was a viral ad for Final Destination. Yeah, like it looked it looked scary. But then I was looking at that I was like, what? Why are you making such a big deal out of the guys with the mowers? The scarier thing would be if they had no guys with mowers out there at all and let the court like there should be a guy standing in front of those lawnmowers, like it's Tiananmen Square being like, stop with the mowing, grow it out. Let's let this course be all that it can be.

I thought the same thing when I saw the lawnmowers is like, are they making it easier? Yeah. Because I don't understand how any of this stuff works in golf course. What's the actual, there's a maintenance. No, there's, I think it's golf course. Maintenance is like a there's a maintenance no idea there's I think it's golf course maintenance is like a pretty popular major at a bunch of colleges yeah you can do it well you got memes they just keep talking without the mics on we're gonna turn it's turf management my turf college was a golf

college did you did you do it no business by one business, but Yeah, meme ology meme do you want to say anything about Luigi shouting you out? Do I disbound what he said it was nice shout out it wasn't I shout out I think you just I think you take a shout out whoever you get it. What yeah He just said he he had made a list of things that he's thankful for in prison. And then one of them I think was like thick latinas for Luigi. And then the next one was memes. Yeah. Yeah, latinas for Mangione.

Yeah. I also, I got comment from Oldie about whether or not Edmont tension starts skinnier skin or not. He said don't think Don't I don't think I don't know if he's telling us to not think about it or if he's saying I don't think they do Okay, so saying I don't think they do if we're keeping score at home Chicklets meme said go back to Skinner Merle said don't go back to Skinner. Mm-hmm. Oldie said don't think Yan said I don't care. Yep. It's a good we got it all. I don't think we missed any answer that you could have. Somebody's

going to be right. So someone is going to win this. All right. Should we kick it to ourselves talking NBA finals and little NFL and then we'll get to our interviews. Let's do it. Okay, we're back in studio before we talk some other sports. Game time. Guess what? Football is back. The 2025 NFL schedule is out, and the only place you should be getting your tickets is game time.

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What time is it? Game time. Okay, boys, the Indiana Pacers are up two one in the NBA finals. Holy shit, this team, and listen, we've doubted them at times. Hank has really doubted them. Yeah. But they answer the bell every single time.

That was an awesome game three. These Finals have been a lot better than anyone expected. And it was again, the Indiana Pacers just having dudes after dudes after dudes. TJ McConnell off the bench. First player in NBA Finals history to go 10 points, 5 steals and 5 rebounds. And Benedict Mathurin who was awesome. 27 points. He was I think 9 for 12 shooting.

Also, I looked this up. He had the most points off the bench in an NBA Finals game since... Does anyone have it? 27 points off the bench. Most... Deli. Nope. Good answer.

It was Jason Terry, 2011, game six. Also coached by... Rick Carlisle. Yeah. Little, little something there. That's quite a nugget I mean Benedict Mathurin He was he didn't play the first quarter and then he outscored the Thunder's bench 27 to 18 by himself and did you see him after the game was over when SVP was interviewing him like hey

That's pretty cool that you did that he was saying all the right things But the difference is like I believed him when he was saying all the right things He's like I honestly do not care until we win the championship. Yeah. And he didn't care. He's and it was that it was at that point because after the game I was like, that's awesome for the Pacers. I'm glad they got one at home. What a performance from their bench. What a performance by the entire team. And the crowd was awesome. I was awesome. Caitlin Clark shout out eating now. Yeah. What a great game it was for them. And I was like, that's cool, but I still thought that the Thunder were definitely gonna win. Then I heard how little he cared about how many points he scored. Yeah. And for whatever he hypnotized me, I was like, this guy actually means all the cliche shit that you say that you're supposed to say. I kind of believe in the Pacers now. Yeah, he's an all-time confidence guy. You remember there was a story when he was in the combine in the draft process He said

His first he what he's looking forward to most in the league is his first game against LeBron James Because a lot of people say he's great. I want to see how great he is. I don't think anybody is better than me He's gonna have to show me he's better than me. Yeah, I've seen him on TV, but he hasn't he hasn't played me before That's an all-time confidence guy all-time bench guy. And yeah the Pacers I mean Hal Burton also answered the bell where he was like way more aggressive was I think a rebound shy of a triple double And it it was it was like there was multiple moments in that game I was like, oh here come the Thunder even how the second half started where they, they, they, uh, I think they scored like six points right away. I was like, Oh, this game.

And then just the Pacers just kept on coming back and fighting. And then you look up and it's like, I think the, the thunder went like a long stretch in the fourth quarter without hitting a field goal. SGA was bad in the fourth quarter, really bad three points. He's the MVP of the league and he needs to be hell. And he was bad in the fourth quarter, really bad. Three points. He's the MVP of the league. He needs to be, and he was bad defensively. He needs to be put in that same spot when you have a game like that to be criticized. Obviously he's a great player and I expect him to answer in game four, but he was bad in the fourth quarter in game three. And when you blow the Pacers out, they're going to come back and beat you in the next

game. That's what they do. Yeah. Every time they get blown out this postseason, they are four and oh, they're undefeated when they lose by 15 plus points in the previous game. And they also have not lost back to back games since March 10th. Yeah, that's a long time. Yeah. So I cut. I think, low key believe in the Pacers. I believe in the Pacers throughout the Easter conference playoffs. And then the finals came and I was like, I think the Thunder are gonna win. And I know that it's obviously now that they're up, but they just, there's something about them. Like they just have more guys and they just,

I think it's also they don't, the moment is never too big for them. They're not scared. Yeah, like they're not worried They're not scared and it just it something about this team is special They also are they're going for the longest odds ever to win an NBA finals Yeah, I mean, it's got to be up there in all four sports. So it's fourth all-time in all four sports Right now so their preseason odds were 66 to 1 there in all four sports. So it's fourth all time in all four sports right now. So their preseason odds were 66 to one. The second longest preseason odds to ever win an NBA title was the 2014 15 warriors at 28 to one in all of sports.

Lychester City. were counting sports. Yeah. In all of sports, the 1999 St. Louis Rams, 150 to 1 preseason odds. The 1991 Minnesota Twins were 80 to 1. And then the 2003 Florida Marlins were 75 to 1. And then fourth is the Pacers, 66 to 1. But what's crazy is the Pacers, I think, were longer odds, even when the postseason started, they were 80 to one. Yeah, that is nice.

So they went up. And I think with that Twins, I think they were playing the Braves in that World Series, and they were both worse to first teams. That's probably the biggest combined odds to reach the championship. Kirby Puckett put the whole team on the back. That's right.

Yeah, and they had the- Black Jacks Mcdowell, right? The best was the Plexiglas, the hockey boards out in the outfield. That was an insane stadium. Yeah, so awesome. Hubert Humphrey Dome. Yeah, I got a question for you. Trivia time.

Okay. How many free throws do you think Tyrese Halliburton has shot in the finals? Seven. Total. Total. Total. In the finals. Wait, wait, don't bid a

That got hot on the Google alright, so you say six eight wait price rate rules I don't give fuck either way eight eight seven Zero oh Six zero free throws in the NBA finals. That is pretty crazy, isn't it? I feel like I saw, I memory hold him shooting free throws. With all the talk about whether or not he's a superstar, that would actually go a long way towards him becoming a superstar, is if there's moments in the game where it stops and everybody just watches him shoot the basketball. Yeah. I mean, he, he, game two, he was not very aggressive, but that is crazy in the, in, in game one and game three,

he has not shot a free throw. He's so good. He's so good. And he, uh, so I, good trivia, by the way. Thank you. Really good. Get ready for the dozen. Great trivia. Uh, I think though, we, we kind of buried the lead here. I was wondering, you know, we could talk about the Pacers incredible run. We can talk about the Pacers being two wins away from the NBA finals. What a game three. By the way, Chet Holmgren, get your weight up, bro. Get your weight. That's one guy that I think Perk could actually take him under his wing. Yeah. And be like, I need to help you young man.

He, that box score, if you box score watch, you're like, oh, Chet had 20 and 10 or 29, whatever it was. And we're gonna talk about this with Blake Griffin in a minute, but that sequence at the end of the game, when he got blocked by Miles Turner, and then like got blocked by four guys, he just looks, he looks a little in over his head. Yeah. It's just, he'll bounce back, maybe he'll bounce back. I don't know, but he looks a little and over his head. Yeah. It's just, it's just,

he'll bounce back. Maybe he'll bounce back. I don't know, but he looks a little bit over his head. He's going up against like a 10 year vet. Yeah. That knows how to put it. That's playing booty ball on him. Yeah. But so what I was going to say is, we missed the two most important conversations about these NBA finals. The first is what must LeBron and Luca do to win an NBA title? I saw that this morning. Yeah. It's a good question.

That was one of the lead stories on Get Up. So. So what, let's start out with LeBron. Okay. What does LeBron need to do to win an NBA title? Get five years younger. I think he needs to have Luca lose some weight. That too.

And what does Luca need to do? Get LeBron five years younger. Yes. Yeah. All right, so I think that's to have Luca lose some weight. That's that too. And what does Luca need to do get LeBron five-year Shunger? Yes. Yeah. All right. So I think that's the formula right there. Okay, and then the other story which I would say is more important on ESPN this morning was Stephen A Smith picking a fight with Tyrese Halliburton because we hadn't figured out how Stephen A Smith was Gonna make these NBA finals about him. Uh-huh Tyrese Halliburton basically said in a press conference, not naming any names, he was just like, I don't care what everyone says about me.

We're two wins away from the Finals. Like, that's our, from winning the championship. That's all I care about. Stephen A. Smith then called him out and said, has he read the news? I'm going to be here for a while, and players far more accomplished and far more superior have made their efforts trying to call me out.

How has that worked out? How has it worked out? I think Kevin Durant's made a lot of money. Did it work out for LeBron? I think LeBron's made a lot of money. It did kind of work out for LeBron too. Yeah. It's a, it's a fair point by Steven A. Smith. I, I particularly enjoy the fact that it was kind of sandwiched this, this segment was sandwiched in between another segment where he talked about Kevin Durant online saying people need to stop insulting Kevin Durant. Stop making it personal.

Stop coming at him. He's a great basketball player. We should be celebrating his greatness. Yeah, and had zero self-awareness to the fact that he literally just did that to Tyrese Halliburton. Yeah. Yeah, pretty much. He's those segments live independent of each other.

Yeah, it's a different. It's like a severance. It's like episodes of The Simpsons. You tune in next week and it's like, okay, whatever happened in the previous, the nuclear power plant didn't actually melt down seven days ago. Yeah, he's the wife in Severance going into different rooms.

Just every single room has a different Stephen A. Smith take that is contradictory to the one that he just made. Yep. Yeah, that was quite a choice by ESPN. We also had Adam Silver gaslighting us about the logos, which he was like, they haven't been on the court for a while. Well, the NBA would, I know one thing about the NBA and the front office there. They do

not, the league office does not like to make crazy court designs. Yeah. Ever. Ever. Because it's slippery. Can't do it. You can't do it. So you can't put the trophy on you can't put the NBA Finals logo on the actual court because somebody might slip on it And that's why nothing ever changes on an NBA court. Yeah the and he just Again, he I like a couple years ago. They were putting it on the the TV broadcast, which that's what we were talking about I don't I would like it on the court, but I understand if you want to pretend its player safety Okay, fine Which that's what we were talking about. I don't I would like it on the court, but I understand if you want to pretend It's player safety. Okay fine, but at least put on the TV broadcast Then now it's just on and and I don't know if you guys knew this but YouTube TV is presenting I didn't see I didn't see that. I very apparent. I don't I don't mind the script logo

I think it's a fine guy like this, but the more Adam Silver talks about the more he gives us power Oh, yeah, so we're oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Can we see back on PMT? We're gonna pitch you all of our ideas. He's simping for us when he goes on TV. And he's like, Yeah, okay. I want to do another 20 minutes about the logo on the court. Yeah, yeah, we were you're talking to the internet right now. Adam. Yeah. Yeah. So we this side of the room believes in the Pacers. Henry Lockwood. Yes. You know PFT and I again we're not

I'm not claiming that I am saying that I thought the Pacers were gonna win this series. Cannot claim that. I think my official pick was Thunder in six but PFT and I did say that we both said the Pacers are gonna win one of these home games on Monday's show. You like it it is over yeah I dug myself in a hole I'm staying there but after last night and as these games go the pressure is gonna you know keep mounting on the Thunder and we might get into a situation you know Thunder fans block your ears where in five ten years they're showing Chet Holmgren Shea on different teams and being like

wow could you believe this he made the finals and didn't win? That's mean. That's very mean what you're doing right now. This is just you're just going very triggering for Thunder fans specifically. They had this is it it's kind of like the Knicks it's like you're never gonna have a better shot than this year. You don't think so? No they're gonna have a much better shot. Not if they don't win this year. You don't think so? No, they're going to have a much better shot. Not if they don't win this one. What if you think that this is this is a portal series for them? Yeah, what if they trade if they lose this, it's a sliding doors moment. Your entire future will be miserable. That's what it's starting to feel like. What if you win this series, then you're going to win for something like that. What if they trade chat in a bunch of picks for Janice? you're gonna win for something like that what if they trade Chet in a bunch of picks for Giannis that would seem like a pretty good team it would seem like it

you never know it's hard to get to the finals it's hard to get back what if they lose this series happen what if they lose this series and then they hit up the New York Knicks and say hey do you want to talk to dagno and then they hire Tibbs That probably be bad for them, too So I don't know it's just it the Thunder The Thunder need to win this series. I still think they're going to I guess in six now, but My not seven. Oh cuz the Valkyrie the Valkyrie and I just think no Caitlin Clark is gonna be there for game four So then I guess it's going to have to be seven. It's going to have to be seven.

That's bad for the Thunder. Yeah. If it goes seven, that's bad for the Thunder. Does it not feel like the Pacers just play a looser, more fearless style of basketball in the Thunder? It's just a little tight. It's a little tight. Although also the not shooting threes, I think, is coming back to bite them too.

Yeah. There was like no threes in the entire game. Yeah. That's crazy. when you get down in these games It's like you if you're not a three-point shooting team It's harder to come back blue door did start four for four and was like his his three balls touch the earth's cross I mean the moons crossed. It was a great great first quarter from the door Here's what I'll say in if you're a Thunder fan freaking out I'll say in if you're a Thunder fan freaking out. I would say this could you could say this is going exactly like the Nuggets series, which it actually is.

They lost game one at home against the Nuggets in a ridiculous insane way to lose a game where they were up all game and then they blew it at the end. They killed the Nuggets game two, went to Denver for game three, lost that game in overtime, I think it was, and then they won the next two and won in seven. So there at least is, this has had, they've been down two one in these playoffs. But must win. Must win, but they've been down two one basically in the exact same way. Lose a game they should have won game one, blow out exact same way lose a game. They should have won game one blowout game two

Lose game three. Yeah, I I would not panic if I was a Thunder fan when you watch the paint with the Pacers are playing Winning basketball they will make you panic because they do so much crazy shit like the ball Was it the Spurs that used to have the rule? It's like you have to you have to do something different with the ball within half a second. Like the hoosiers, everybody touches the ball. That was the hoosiers. But the Spurs I think had a rule where it was like you got to either dribble or pass the ball or shoot the ball within a half second. And that's how our offense is going to go. They're like the sun seven seconds or less. Yeah. Seven seconds. I think that's probably a pretty fair comparison too. But when the Pacers are clicking, it's like it's dizzying

to watch on television. It must be dizzying trying to figure out who's your man right now? Who are you currently guarding? Because you've just gone through like three screens and there's been three passes in that time span. And when they're clicking against you, it's just got to be overwhelming. So then you just need a new game. You need a new 48. Wipe the slate clean. Yeah, and you're right. Like Rick Carlisle is such a good coach and they do like, you don't know also, you don't know like what they're going to be doing, but you also don't know who's going to step up and the Thunder, like they were throwing a lot of stuff at SGA and it was frustrating the hell out of them.

Blitzing them up top and kind of disrupting. Like if you can disrupt SGA You can you can have success against them. I feel like the Pacers defense was great, too It was really I know that the the Thunder as she's got to play better for the Thunder like that's just a fact He has to play better You can't score three points in a fourth quarter and he has to play better defense the TJ game TJ McConnell TJ McConnell game that was he was so fun to watch that That was so great to the he looks like a little he had a little Cooper de Jean in the last like yeah, he did the story

about his dad being a coach and coaching both he and his sister and yeah coaching his sister not as hard as TJ and TJ getting upset. Now it was like, you could you could know, yeah, you could put a gun to my head and be like, Hey, TJ McConnell's dad is a coach and he has a sister explain how that went and I would have gotten it exactly right yep so one other I MBA thing before we talk a little NFL memes how's the coaching search going buddy they're casting a wide net not saying no to anybody no but you know what the Knicks

are doing it's like they're the no bad ideas out in the open in front of everybody. Yeah, they're the dude at the bar who's like, I have no problem being told no by a chick. I'm just going to keep peppering the whole board. It's also like 1.50 AM and they're doing that at the bar right now. They're just hoping that someone says yes. So they're hitting up their buddy's friends and being like hey How serious are you in this girl? Yeah. Hey is your hey what what grade is your sister in again? Yeah So he made doka Chris Finch Jason kid Quinn Snyder Billy Donovan

That's the list of teams that the Knicks have reached out to it's five five And been told no Here's an idea. I'm just going to throw this out there. There is one guy who the team can't say no because he doesn't coach for a team right now. An NBA coach? He's maybe teased that he would coach in the NBA. Who? Jay Wright. Oh, I thought he was going to say Cal Barry. No. Cal Barry did say, he was like, it's an incredible job. Jay Wright doesn't have to be asked. You don't have to ask Jay Wright like some front office. You just have to ask Seth Davis. You just got

to maybe call the Pope. Yeah. You got to see if Seth Davis is cool with him interviewing. Jay Wright would be a home run on it. Oh man. Do you think that the Bucs are gonna proactively reach out and be like, hey, do you want to talk to our coach? Yeah, I think they're gonna try to hire so it's it's uh Budenholzer Mike Brown Taylor Jenkins Michael Malone what what else I mean someone who oh Jerry I think Jerry O'Connell was saying that they should just rehire Tibbs. I think so. And just be like fresh start. And they can be like, we just did the Tibbs thing to you, Tibbs. Yeah, right. Like I just Tibbs you. Yeah, we just made, we just made you hungrier. Yeah. It's not a bad idea at this point. And when they, when they fired Tibbs, we reacted to it live on

the show. And I think I said, this is a move that the New York Knicks did, because it seems they have a plan for who they want to hire. I've never been wronger on a take in my entire life because it did feel that way where it's like, you don't fire tips unless you know what you're going to do next. Yeah. I was so wrong. So I was so wrong. But to your defense, you didn't at that time, if we were working on just the information we had We didn't know that James Dolan had gotten involved again. Yes, there was a material change. That was a big material change We thought James Dolan was still doing his band and doing other shit. He had gotten back involved

That's when you know, there is no plan If you're a New York Knicks fan The best thing you can possibly do is gaslight James Dolan into thinking that his band is awesome And going to every performance have him sell out everywhere He goes just use as much of his time as possible playing kazoo in his band Yeah, and staying away from the team make him think that he's a rock star make him have to build another sphere Yeah, where he performed he has a residency in his own sphere a James Dolan sphere Yeah, and don't tell him that it's you've created a prison

I guess he has created his own prison for himself to perform his music in right but de facto that's what it would be you're just keeping him away from MSG yes uh so what are you gonna do memes I'm not saying it what are you gonna say you're not saying it now you have there's a theory that they're crossing all these names off. They're gonna ask everybody, get denied, and then they're gonna go back with a Rick Brunson being the coach.

Oh, you can't do that. I would not do that. I think that's Def Con. You cannot do that. You can't. You cannot. But that's a theory I saw out there. So, memes, what is the upside for these teams if they hit up the Rockets and they're like, hey, we'd like to interview you, you made a doko for the team. Like, I know there's maybe some sort of draft compensation that could happen. But like, would you if you were happy with your coach, like all these teams seem to be? What, why would you expect them to say, okay?

Why would you expect them to say okay? Cause it gives those coaches a better opportunity to go win a championship. The Rockets were pretty good this year. So if I run the Rockets, if I'm the owner of the Rockets and I get a call from the Knicks and they say we'd like to interview your head coach, I'm thinking to myself, it's the right thing to do for Ime Odoka to let him pursue his goals of a championship

so I'm gonna trade him to the Knicks. Well, not not Eme or Chris Finch. Like if you're Chris Finch, you wouldn't want to leave 23 year old superstar. Or even Jason Kidd, you're about to get given a flag. Or the fact that they just fired the guy who had the best team in Knicks history in the last 25 years. And they're like, see ya buddy. That might also make you nervous to go take that job that James Dolan is now involved and

they kicked Tim's to the door after literally the best year in 25 years that would make you nervous but some people say that he reached his ceiling and then for four out of the last five coaches that won a NBA finals also got fired so yeah but if they're gonna treat him like that What what's gonna happen to me? But if other organizations are winning championships and then firing their coach, I think it's just sure life cycle is just short right now It's true. Yeah, I think that's a very fair counterpoint But also you're probably looking at this and saying James Dolan. Mm-hmm So you're down for so memes is Shane, can you make the graphic memes wants Rick Brunson? No, put it out

Rick Brunson, I like that Max had to like talk in your ear to get you to the point where you could say that out loud Well, he said it to me earlier. I was like, there's no way there. I Was like you gotta say you got to bring it up. Where do you get your rumors from memes? Where's that? What part of the internet is that or is it your brain of other Nick's fans? Oh, okay Ben Stiller has been peddling in this rumor No, no, just Nick's Twitter Timmy C Hank are you loving this? Yeah in love with this That this was their shot what name would that's that's I mean the rock the rosters coming back

It's not like the Celtics just put their entire team on the trade block. Oh Is that that happen Legion hoops? Oh? Did they're not even paid him is up for trade per Legion hoops. Oh shit those yesterday. That's pretty crazy Hank We knew that was coming the whole team well They got a that's gonna be a couple of them you just put them on the block and then you figure out was Well, they got it's gonna be a couple of them You just put them on the block and then you figure out who you trade Do you think that was a way for Brad Stevens to like not have Jalen Brown mad at him because really it's like Jalen Brown But they're like hey, everyone's available

Like don't worry, we'll trade anyone but Jalen Brown He's doing that. I Have a question for you. Yes 50 What if the New York Knicks hired Brad Stevens? Hmm. Brad Stevens is not going back. I'll tell you what, PFT, they gotta at least make him say no. You have to. You gotta make him say no. You gotta make the phone call. Oh, Max is so so happy that we're now flipped it. He's so happy that we're off Jay right now on the Brad Stevens is not going. We're just trying to help the Knicks. We're trying to search for a name.

James Dolan has to call Brad Stevens. You have to have him say no. They're trading their entire teams on the trading block per memes. So you think Brad Stevens, like this might be a good time to get out. Maybe they call on her like, Hey, let's talk trade. By the way, you want to coach? Yeah. And then he trades all, all their good players to the Knicks. And then he goes to the Knicks and coaches them. That would be crazy.

That would be crazy. I heard it. I heard it was happening on Legion Hoops. Do you guys want you guys want me to read a headline real quick? I wanted to read a headline for you. Before we do talk NFL. I just remember we used to do this read a headline. Demarcus Cousins is suspended for the remainder of the season after scratching his balls and making a heckler sniff his hands yep I had a I had a I had a lead for you we read a lead DeMarcus Cousins seemingly

scratched his balls and made a fan sniff his hands during a serious altercation that led to suspension for the rest of the season from his basketball team. This is in Puerto Rico I guess yeah. Yeah, I'd say that's That's fate on site Yeah, although it's to Marcus cousin. So you probably can't do anything about it the exception of the Marcus cousins. Yeah. Yeah What I mean little teaser? The the State Farm Barstool basketball league is is currently airing., that happens in one of the games. Yes, it does. Oh I forgot. Yeah. Yeah, and it is fade on site. It is it should be it's bad

Wow. Yeah, that is a great teaser. So what did we had to Marcus cousins playing in the tournament? What did the that's not that's not even the correct teaser What happened in the Barstool? Well, I won't say what happened in the barstool the safe farm tournament is way worse than the demarcus cousin. Oh When is the next episode June 16th June 16th is game one. Yep. I'll just say AWLs would like to watch game one. Mm-hmm Yeah, me versus Hank. It's gonna be wild. Mm-hmm. Wow game one Yeah, me versus Hank. It's gonna be wild. Mm-hmm. Wow game one Wild that was good teasers. Thanks I still think that the Marcus cousins is what probably top 10 guy in the United States that I would not want to get into A fight with I'd agree him and Zack Randolph always like interchangeably. It's scary. Mm-hmm

It's big booty dudes don't move so fast, but it's like they move with purpose and That makes and they're angry. Yeah, they're angry. They're always angry Okay, do we want to talk a little NFL? Yeah, let's talk some NFL. I'm excited to talk NFL I had a couple things one was the Bengals are being pieces of shit again So I've never heard of this since they implemented the new rookie wage contract stuff Yeah, so we're talking about tomorrow Stewart their first round pick from Texas A&M, 17th pick in the draft. So he is no longer at OTAs right now. Correct. He's left OTAs, no contract signed, and he left because they're trying to put a clause in the contract that if he gets hurt in the preseason, his money

becomes not guaranteed anymore. I think it's a total void of, it's it's it's any it's hurt or if he gets like, you know any type of League penalty, you know, like if he gets suspended for anything and it's not just the year that it happens It's the entire contract and the Bengals are doing this for is this the first time it's ever happened It's I don't know if it's the first time ever happened. I know that I was reading about it no other rookie in this year's draft had the clause. And then, uh, the last five Bengals first round picks did not have this clause. So it's essentially the first time they ever do it. So the owner of the Bengals is like, listen,

we paid money to all the wide receivers that you wanted, Joe. Yeah. Now we have to cut back in other places. But the funniest part about all this is they drafted partially they drafted Shemar Stewart to be a Trey Hendrickson replacement. Yeah. And when they drafted Shemar Stewart, they're like, this will put pressure on Trey Hendrickson to hopefully sign because we have another guy on the defensive line. And now they have neither of them I would say that Shamar Stewart probably has all the leverage in this situation Yeah, because so he can he can literally hold out and just be drafted again next year. I

Don't think that's I was reading about it. I'm pretty sure you just go back in Florida's got the answer to this Florida definitely has the answer unless I read something that was just fan fiction, which I could have absolutely 100% No, definitely that's the answer. Unless I read something that was just fan fiction, which I could have, absolutely, 100%. Yes, according to the NFL's collective bargaining agreement, Shemar Stewart, the Bengals' first-round pick in the 2020-25 draft, could re-enter the 2026 NFL draft if he remains unsigned and the Bengals don't sign him by the deadline. But I thought that the team that drafted you would have rights over you for a little bit longer than that. Let's find another story instead of just AI.

That's just AI, yeah. Let's find a story. Florio probably wrote about it. Zach, your controls. All right. Yeah, I mean, this is Sports Illustrated saying it. Was this article written by AI? It could have been.

Wait, wait, wait, wait. Go back to that because he referenced Florio. AI, Sports Illustrated referenced Florio. So now click on the Florio because we know that he's a human being as far as we know. You know what? Let's just call him. Call him. This is above our pay grade.

This is... I did see it from more than one person. Phone calls are back. The AI is going to drive us to having person to person interaction. Person to Florio interaction. My take about AI is you can't trust anything anymore. So you just have to be hey Hey Hey, you're on you're on part of my take live right now. We don't trust AI anymore We don't trust the internet if Shamar Stewart does not sign with the Bengals. Can he re-enter next year's draft?

Okay, love it and any any team can get them and any team can draft them. Oh, except the Bengals. I guess that would make like, that would be funny if the Bengals do like, I can see the Bengals try again. Wait, are you on the treadmill or something? What's, what's your, uh, what's your calorie count right now? Burned. I just started. I just started. I'm at 3.7 miles, What's what's your what's your calorie count right now burned?

Who's who's your who's your who's your Peloton instructor? That's such a football guy all right, what's the score in the game? I'm doing challenges and you're going to be 60 when I'm already 60. Oh, you just turned 60. Happy birthday. Mike. Hey Mike. Happy internet's Day coming up on Sunday Mike before we start talking about Deebo do you know is Deebo fat yeah okay good answer that was a good answer all right all right keep keep at the time that's Mike stud for you all right huge huge enormous all right so we just All right, see you, bye. Huge, huge. Enormous. All right, so. We just got it, we just had to call him all the time now because AI.

So I would say that. But I was, I did see it. You were right, you were right, yeah. Shemar Stewart has all the cards. All the cards? Yeah, he can just train for a year. Yeah, I mean, he obviously that, he probably wouldn't be drafted at 17. Maybe not. If he doesn't play football for a year

and he obviously would have a full year of not playing football and not getting closer to his second contract. So like that part, he doesn't have all the cards. He could train to become a flag football athlete and play in the Olympics next year. Or whatever it is. I think the Bengals will ultimately relent

and we side with Shemar Stewart in this. It seems like the Bengals are trying to be shitty. I think that the Bengals, they paid a lot of money to a lot of players this off season and now Mike Brown is like stressing out and he's like, we got to start cutting corners wherever we can. We got to make sure that if anything happens, we don't have to pay any money. Yes. Yeah. He's allergic to paying. Yeah. You mentioned something on that call with for you Yeah about Dibo. I did I did well There was a you guys you guys teased it before we started recording the episode. I don't know that yeah

You did you did you said Dibo's fat? I actually have never said he's fat I said I saw a video of him I you I was met with PFT earlier and he walked in the room and said do You think Dibo's fat? Yeah, the only person I think who said Debo is fat is Max. Which was usually an indication that you think he's fat. I don't think I actually don't know because I don't spend my time staring at Debo's ass like you guys do. I just said, I saw a video of Debo. Yep. I did too. It's called, it's called an installation. Do you, who do you, who do you trust more when it comes to breaking down NFL news at ML football or?

climate or Greg Kittle yeah, yeah listen I I don't I don't know if he's fat or not max I Never said specifically that he was fat. I just referred to him as fat. Yeah, that's true. You're right He's technically you didn't you was fat. You just said you've've got fat Diva and we're pulling up the Hindu stand times now. I also, no, no, stay on the Hindu stand. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We want to see it. The Hindu stand times. Okay. Do you have the other receiver? He's back, right? Doesn't matter. Yeah, first reported here. Well, guess what he's doing. He's staying in shape on his own.

Good. You think he's getting fat too, memes? Maybe he's seeing Debo and he's like, I gotta keep up by getting fat. No, here's the thing. Debo is not fat. He's in great shape and that was just an installation route that he was running. I also don't think he was that slow. I think that was some monkey business with the camera angle.

I think they did him dirty with the cameras on that one. And then I saw the commanders made sure to put out videos of him today looking fast and svelte. And you're gonna get, you know what, even if you get, I hope that Debo's fat and I hope that he's still awesome because fat Debo running through everybody would be even better than skinny Debo. That's facts. Yeah. That is fat

is power when it wins. However, however he feels most comfortable in his body. That's what I'm comfortable with. That's good. Pft, because I didn't want to have our NFL talk be slanted just to talk about what Max called fat Debo. I also wanted to share with you I saw a 2025 QB countdown top 10 QB. So okay, you want me to share it with you? Yeah, yeah, let's do it. Okay. Where'd you see it? This is from Chris Sims. Okay. Number one Lamar Jackson. Okay,

interesting choice. Yeah. But can't really. Number two, Josh Allen. Okay. okay number three Joe burrow okay number four Patrick Mahomes okay number five Jaden Daniels okay number six Matthew Stafford number seven CJ Stroud number eight Justin Herbert number nine Baker Mayfield mm-hmm and number ten Jalen Hurts I like that list I've always said that he's got great great info when Number nine Baker Mayfield mm-hmm and number ten Jalen hurts I like that list I've always said that he's got great great info when it comes to ranking quarterbacks You know listen, that's it pretty much. Oh, we put him under the category the truth hurts. That's exact. Oh the truth That's not good. That's bad. That's bad for number ten Wow Pocket Rockets is Justin Herbert and Baker Mayfield. Okay.

surgicality. Sir, is that a word? Yeah, surgicality. It's like strategic surgery, surgicality. I thought that was a singer from System of Down. Oh, and the core for Max, would you like to comment on that? I mean, Chris Sims is really the dumbest guy in NFL news, NFL analyst. So like him being this wrong on a take is actually a Literally the dumbest guy in NFL news or NFL analyst So like him being this wrong on a take is actually a good thing for Jalen hurts I think he's pretty good when it comes to evaluating he's had some high mean he's had some like good predictions Yeah, really good. No, he has I really pretty I'm pretty sure he had Josh Allen

top of that draft mm-hmm I don't know what else big blind spot for Blake Bortles. Yeah, that one he was wrong about. But yeah, I mean he's had some hits. Yeah, listen, I think that's a great top ten list right there. Did you see the guy that played his newborn son

54 minutes of Jayden Daniels highlights? I did. It makes me want to have a kid. Just so that I can play Jayden. Another one? Another one. Chris needs a little brother or or sister Chris can play it for him. Yeah, uh, what is playing newborn? Oh, he's just finding us the clip we just talked about Zach is good on the keys I've watched this same video the one that the baby watched I've seen this video three times this offseason in its entirety All right Because oh no what happened there Oh, all right. Great security. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,

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Yeah, the big ass in the back. I He's not fat. Can I say there might be an adjective that he might be that's worse What was that adjective? It could be slow. Hey, Max, pull up, pull up your Twitter right now. Pull up your DMS. My DM. Yeah, I sent you a DM in case Big Cat said something mean about Diba. I just was asked. Because I didn't know if this was real or not.

I didn't know. I was asking if he was slow. I didn't know if this was real. But is this is this the cover of Madden? Is it a hero? No. Is that is that that's not that is this the cover of Madden? Evo No, is that is that that's not and that is not the cover of Madden. I thought I think you know that's not It's got the Madden logo on the picture. That's that's a right before the Hail Mary again say There's actually on the cover of Adam because I thought this says NFLPA and rated E for everyone It does look like I thought this was the cover. It does look like it mad It does look like it, but that is not before It does look like it. It does look like it

But that is not before the Hail Mary. Dibo's not slow. That was an installation I asked if he was slow. They were installing his route. He could be. Also everyone Who's gonna just send screenshots of how fat I am all the commander's fans I know that I am like ten times as fat as Dibo Samuel We got our own fat Debo here. Just making sure I put that out there. It's more like two. Come on. Stay out of this Hank. This is now a three way battle of the Mexican standoff. This is good. Just a little sparring getting us ready for football. It's fun. Fat Debo rolls off the tongue. You have to defend

you here. Fat Debo sounds a lot funner than Slow Debo. Yeah, it does. And what I'm saying is if he is fat, in fact, if he's big and he's still awesome, that's the best case scenario. Correct. That's what I'm rooting for. When you win, fat equals power. Yeah. If he's scoring touchdowns and running people over and he's fat and his belly's poking out of his shirt, and he goes to the sid to the sidelines and he's got like mayonnaise on the side of his chin like that's awesome agreed And I'm fatter. I'm much fatter. I'm very way way fat way. I am oh What I said, but maybe faster no Debo maybe even Debo's not fat man. He's not fat agreed

Except for fat. I'm gonna get, fat Devo does sound fun. You got, this did all start from two days ago when Max just out of nowhere goes, you got fat Devo. Well, we were talking about Terry McLaurin and whether you're going to have Terry McLaurin. I was like, at least you got fat Devo. Yep. Okay. Let's get to our interviews.

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So go right now. Draft yours at Chevy.com because in every Chevy truck dependability comes standard. That's the guarantee with Chevy trucks. So for more on Chevy trucks, visit chevy.com. Okay, here he is, our good friend, Blake Griffin. Okay, we now welcome on a very very very very very very very very very Very special guest one of our best friends Three four time three time Blake of the year four time Blake of the year Takies are coming up in about a month, but we want to talk some ball with our guy Blake Griffin First of all Blake. How are you doing? How's, how's, how's life? We miss you.

Just in general, we miss you. I miss you guys too, man. It's been a while. I'm good. You know, just kind of hanging and enjoying, enjoying retired life. Yeah. We bought a football team together. That's right. We bought a football team in Mexico. We're five in one, by the way. Yeah. You're damn right. We are. Yes. That's you got an exciting team. And things are looking up. Love that. It starts at the top with ownership. Yeah. And so you have to set the tone. We're an accountability organization and the players are responding. So credit to us. Yeah. Yeah. Anything you guys want to say to the team? Vamos? Uh, I would say, uh, good job team. Um, when we finally do sign the paperwork, actually owning it and it's not just a press

announcement, then everyone's job is up for grabs dog. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm glad you do style after the season's over, we throw it even the equipment manager get in there. Yeah. Oklahoma drill everybody. Yeah. Every spot is up for grabs. I'm kind of a hands off owner. I put my football guys in position to do football work and I let them cook. Um, and I think they're doing a great job. You know, like I've, I've seen a lot of shitty owners over the course of my career as a sports fan, but like, I don't know if you've ever played for any shitty owners, but hypothetically if you had, would you have learned a lesson from that owner in terms of how you're going

to translate that to football? Yeah, I think one lesson that I, if I had played for a bad owner, one lesson I probably would have learned was like always know if someone's recording you. Just because as an owner, you don't know. You know, there's, there's in this day and age, there could be people can record on anything. Yeah, you know, so I don't know, it just seems like something an owner should keep in mind. And also, maybe don't I mean, like, I guess secondarily, don't be don't say anything racist.

Yeah, those are those are good points. Also, if you're doing a sworn deposition, and somebody asked you about your handwriting, don't talk about getting your dick sucked. Mm-hmm Well, are you in a limo? Yeah, it does make me feel good when she kisses on me So what are you up to these days I know that I read like an interview I think it was in USA Today or something where you're talking about what you have planned for this upcoming year You want to share that with our audience working? Where can they find Blake Griffin? You can find me on Amazon Prime Prime video

In on the NBA we will have We'll start out Friday nights We'll have some Thursday night games after Thursday football ends. We'll have some Saturday games. Not sure if I'm supposed to give out that information, but I think I can. I read it online. Yeah. Yeah. And who are you going to be with? Dirk Mawinski. Ooh. Okay. Uh, you don't as Haslam Taylor. Rooks is our host. Steve Nash will be in and out. He'll be doing some,

some of both, uh, some of both. Uh, Candice Parker, uh, we got a good group. Got a really good group. Kyle Lowry is going to be our, actually that one, that one, I don't know if that one got announced. Damn it. I didn't read his name, but, uh, exclusive to part of my take. Cal Lowry is a cat. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, he's like player correspondent, maybe, maybe in some capacity. I don't know. We've been talking about it. I don't think we, I don't think just like you guys haven't signed the

actual ownership paperwork. I don't know if he's actually, yeah, that's fair. That's fair. Are you going to be, are you the Charles Barkley of this crew? Uh, yeah, probably like very little analysis and like a lot of like a lot of just, just, just digs at players. I'm just going to be making fun of everybody. Yeah, I that's actually so you retired What two years ago? Do you think that's enough time to? Be like back in my day like listen we played in the real NBA like this is bullshit now Yeah, absolutely and every year I'll get my career will be a little bit better. Like sure this first year I'll be humble like you know, you know, this guy was really good at playing against him by year five. I will

be one of the greatest players of all time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You could do that. I mean, that was, uh, that happened with Kendrick Perkins when he said he was, he would shut down Yoke Hitch and then they found clips of like, uh, like baby Yoke Hitch, like 19 years old, just dominating him. So just maybe you maybe you float it by us first and we'll try to find it. We'll have our research team be like can we find any clips of like yokich like fucking Blake up and then we're like no you know what no clips exist go for it. I think the only way that Kendrick I mean Kendrick Perkins was a yokich

stopper was like they saw him on the schedule and they're like, oh, you don't need to play tonight. You want to play? Yeah. I'm looking forward to the old head Blake Griffin on the set. Oh, can we call you on Griffin? Oh yeah. Call me on OG. No, I guess you know, it's just kind of OG. Yeah, just call me on Dirk is by

Midgetenstein or something. I think is that in the literal translation is there any I don't speak German but that that sounds Sounds right. I'm gonna look it up and I'm only gonna refer to him as uncle in German Yeah, do you want to do some practice for some hot takes? So like we can we just do like a quick role play so imagine that this last season happened next season and the news comes through Luca has been traded to the Los Angeles Lakers, Luca Donchich. What's your take? You know what my take is? I think that there was a deal done under the table and I think Dallas knew that

they were going to get the number one pick because the lottery is rigged and we all know that. And I think Dallas knew that they were going to get the number one pick because the lottery is rigged and we all know that. And I think that, you know, in the grand scheme of things, Cooper flag has a chance to be an unbelievable player and you sort of have to make that deal. You know, you shake, shake hands and you say, thank you, Luca. Uh, but with coop, with the emergence of Cooper flag, we're all good here. Yeah, that's good. That's a good hot take. All right. Here's another test that one actually can I just give credit that one was giving credit to Colin cowherd when he said, Hey LeBron, we're good. He's an inspiration skip, you know, some of these something great. Yeah. All right. Here's another one. I'll throw at you. Uh, we're in a debate.

I think Patrick Beverly is a hall of Famer. I actually I actually do not disagree with that at all. I look at the scope of work. Yeah. I wasn't able to follow the games in Europe early on and I did see part of his career in the NBA. Also just the way he took players under his wing. You know it matters how you treat the younger guys and selflessly like he you know when he fired that ball at that lady's head in Indiana and then got it back and did it again, he was saying, you know what guys, I'm going to remove myself from the league. Now these young guys have a chance to play and that is a hall of fame career. If I know of one. Also in defense of our guy Pat Bev,

I don't think he played with any Hall of Famers. Like guys that are in the Hall of Fame? Yeah, or no, like guys who might be in the Hall of Fame. So it's like- Oh, James Harden. Giannis. No, I don't think those guys are Hall of Famers. You don't think Giannis is? No.

I don't think Pat Bev chances at like a 54 to 56% of making the Hall of Fame. Yeah, that seems fair. Yeah. And by the way, by the time he's done with this season, his podcast could be 99. That's true. That's true. Have you, did you talk to Pat at all after that? Uh, I feel like that was sick. Come on, Pat. That was like, uh, maybe Pat doesn't know that you're our guy, but I didn't appreciate that from

Pat. You know what? It's okay. I mean, you got it. You got, I mean, you guys don't really have to do this, but podcast business, you got to give these hard takes. Paul George is a really good player. Uh, he kind of, kind of came at both of us there. And, uh, I don't know. I mean, he's a, Pat's obviously a legend of the game and he's obviously, uh, grown the game and made it what it is today.

And, and, you know, I respect his opinion. I actually, I think I agree with him. I think he probably gets the nod over myself. Yeah. I have you in the hall of fame. That might, that might just be me. Oh, get basketball reference updated to have it be four time Blake of the year. They shouldn't. Exactly. Do they have a fun nickname for you? Or is that just pro football reference that has nicknames that no other website ever has even thought of? No, there's nicknames on basketball reference. I just don't know what mine is. Let's see. All right, I'll tell you. We got them here. Brother Taylor Griffin.

That's it. Oh no, I don't see. That's it. No nicknames. No. Do you have other guys? Do you have a nickname? I Don't really people would call me just Griff BG This is one of the Clippers announcers one time I think he was trying to get something going and I had this dunk and he goes Oh the flying lion I'm looking, I'm looking right now at a Reddit thread said, I've heard them called Blake the snake. And then that guy said he's also going to do a grassroots nickname for Blake Gryffindor. Um, you hear Potter guy? That one didn't really stick. Yeah. I mean, that one didn't really stick either. I don't know.

Lake Superior. Yeah, that's pretty good. Easy Blake Oven was an early one that didn't catch on either. Yeah. Oh, flop Griffin. Oh, that was me. That doesn't mean one. Are you just reading your tweets? No, here. Oh, someone, someone emptied the clip quake Griffin earthquake Blake Wake and Blake must see BG this guy sucks at nicknames Optima Prime Oklahoma Hammer Blake and eggs That one guy on the clipper who dunks a lot sky-high Dunkadelic and that was it. I mean like we've heard them all at this point. I

actually kind of like Blake and eggs. Yeah, I kind of like Blake and eggs and I kind of like earthquake Blake because that's just stupid. Yeah. Great. Just Blake of the year. Have basketball reference. Put Blake of the year on there. Yeah. We're time Blake in the four time. Uh, talk about this actual NBA finals NBA finals. Can the Pacers win this thing? It's crazy. I think I'm officially now like Pacers can and maybe will win this thing because I've doubted them. I didn't doubt them going into the final or like leading up to the finals. I love them in the Eastern conference. I definitely doubted him against the thunder. I thought the thunder were better. I thought the thunder the way they've beaten teams like they're just a superior team. But after game three it's like maybe all of the guys on the

Pacers they they don't feel the pressure. They all contribute and they have so many options that it feels like the thunder do not have that. I mean so I doubted them as well. I doubted them in the Cleveland series. I kind of doubted them in the, I thought the Pacers could beat the Knicks, but I thought the Knicks were gonna beat them. I like, also the Pacers have not lost game one until Thunder. They hadn't lost game one or two, all the playoffs.

Yeah. They were just running through the tape and two of those series were on the road. They went to Cleveland one, two. They went to New York one, two, they went to Oklahoma City one game one. Like they're playing with so much joy. Rick Carlisle is a genius. And then also you just, you're just watching like a team who like everybody just like accepts

their role. Not because it was like, I mean, maybe it was, but not because Rick Carlisle was like, Hey, you can only do this and you can only do this. They don't play like that. They play free within their roles and they don't try to do anything else. Like they know who they are. And also they don't care what the score is.

They could be down 20, they could be down 15, seven, it does not matter. They don't stop playing. And I thought that Oklahoma City maybe was woken up a little bit in game one where they're like, hey, we cannot take our foot off the gas until, you know, the starters come out and the game is truly over. But the Pacers are doing something incredible. I asked the shame that I don't, uh, people probably aren't tuning in as much of it was like Lakers Celtics or something, but like it's, it's incredible basketball to watch.

Yeah. Yeah. What are the, uh, what are the Pacers doing differently on defense? Because going into the series, the entire story was Oklahoma city's defense, which is incredible. It's a historic defense. They played really well all season, but last night, especially, uh, the Pacers just made them uncomfortable all the time. They were getting into passing lanes. It almost seemed like they were forcing them into making these bad passes that they were anticipating. So from your perspective, like what changed? What have the Pacers done? I thought they, well, I just thought they ramped up the pressure. They, first of all, they have unbelievable individual defenders. They have an unbelievable rim protector. Their schemes on SGA last night seemed like they were taking opportunistic

times to double. You can kind of see any time SGA kind of had any turned his back, assuming that like when you can see the back of his numbers, guys had the green light to just run and double and then scramble around. But what we're also seeing in the NBA right now, which is exciting to me is like the days of like two superstars and a really good player and then kind of peppering in some guys who can just maybe shoot or do this. Those are kind of over like all the good teams. Now everyone on the floor can shoot dribble rebound pass defend

to a certain extent, right? Like even like OB Toppin, like who you would say is probably they're not their best shooter of the guys they play. He was five free from three to get one. Like guys can do everything. You can't have weak links on the floor. You can't have guys that a team can single out on defense and go at them every time, which is fun to see like sort of that change in the NBA where it's like, Oh no, everybody on the floor is really, really good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I, the other thing I was wondering about this and maybe you can explain it to me cause you obviously played for so long, but Chet Holmgren box score. If you look at the box score, didn't watch the game. You're like,

oh, he had a pretty good game. I think he scored, I think he had like 20 points and 10 rebounds. But if you're watching the game, it is like a big deal that he is like so skinny and miles Turner was kind of bullying him in the fourth quarter. Can you feel that like, wait, when you go up against a guy who's, who's 30 pounds bigger than you, is it, is it a situation where you right now, like you just feel it and you're like, this is going to be a long night. I have to figure out something else because it does feel like he's in a little bit of deep water when he goes up against someone who's 30 pounds heavier than him.

Yeah, I would just like the playoffs. Obviously the physicality goes up each round really. For sure. Like I would say, like if I was his teammate, I would just talk to him about like, Hey, what are your strengths? What do you do best against miles Turner? Like last night he got, he got a three point shot, and then he tried to chase it and get into the lane and get into somebody's body.

We're not doing that. We're getting space. We're creating space. We're just taking easy floaters. We're not trying to get into the people's bodies and get close to the rim. He's so skilled. I love his game. I think he's a great player.

When you're young, he's in his second year. He's figuring it out, and he'll get better and better Like I don't this isn't like a huge issue and we do this in the playoffs because there's a lot of time in between games We're like the guy had a bad game. You're like he just this guy just can't do it right do it But like I think he'll be better next game If you've seen like the other series like he's made adjustments from game to game really well and he's he's done his part But yeah, I mean you do feel that 30 pound difference, but just stick to what stick to your strengths Like he's made adjustments from game to game really well and he's, he's done his part. But yeah, I mean you do feel that 30 pound difference, but just stick to what stick to

your strengths. Don't get outside of those. Be exactly who you are. And it's a really good point about Chet because, uh, he like people who will criticize him and be like, he's in over his head, uh, are also just failing to be like, Hey, he's a major contributor to a team that's in the finals. You also just failing to be like, Hey, he's a major contributor to a team that's in the finals. You know, like they got that's team in basketball. Right, right. They won. What, what was it like 64 games or something? Yeah. Something crazy.

So that didn't happen by accident. He's just now the stage is a lot bigger and they are young team. And I just, I feel like the thunder, uh, just need that like second guy to step up more. And SGA did not have a good fourth quarter either. Like he was not, he, he, he either has to be Superman or someone else has to be his, his, you know, Robin to his Batman at the end of games. Yeah. I mean, listen, for the first time they played on a road and like kind of that environment, first time they played on the road in the finals, first of all, it was like, it's, it's different. I mean, I never did, but from a far, it's different. But like,

that's just like the playoff atmosphere, like on the road for some of these guys, it's a little, it's a little tough, but like they bounce back, they win game four, they go home, they win game five. Like nobody's having some of these conversations that people are having a day about some of these guys. Yeah. Do you think, do you think maybe SGA needs to step up the embellishment a little bit as a guy who was known for flopping? I mean, your nickname was flop as we saw earlier. Uh, should he take acting classes? Should he really crank it up in, in game,

uh, game four coming up? I'd like to see him implement some WWE tactics, you know, maybe, you know, to put tape over a cut. and then when he gets fouled Rip it off. You know blood coming down. I want I want more more theatrics. I actually like people talk about his like selling selling thousand stuff, but like He also is so good at it like and he's in control of his body so well that he like feels something. He's like, Oh, I'm going to do this. And then the other guy presses one step too much. And it's just like, it to me, it's not like crazy flopping. He's just very good at putting his,

his putting himself in the right position to get a foul, which is a skill to be honest. It is an art form. Like he has taken it to an incredible level. He's very good. He's also very good when he doesn't do that. And I think he's, he's a great passer too, when he's just like calmly taking it through the lane, looking for guys. You played with some guards that were always looking to throw you lobs anytime you were close to the basket.

Was there one guy that would just surprise you that you'd always have to be on the lookout for? Like, I have no idea when the ball's going to be lobbed up in the air and I have to jump and go get it, but I need to be a hundred percent ready at all times. I've always said, man, Baron Davis was like a master at like just, and he would just let the ball fly. Like he would three quarter court. Didn't matter. He would just let it fly. And they were always pretty good. Passes.

Obviously CP is one of the best of all time, but like Baron is kind of like that name that would really surprise you of like a guy who just like can throw unbelievable lob passes and he'll, he'll try anything. When do you guys ever talk about if when you're in a playoff series, we always joke like a must win can't lose Do you think like being down two one is is there any talk being like we gotta win this game? Do you guys do must win can't loses?

I don't think I don't think you'd want to say like we have to win this game But like the sense of urgency is going up like it's it's understood like we all like You all know that we're down to one, another home game for them. Like gotta go in this game, but no one's saying that like, Hey, we gotta go win this. I don't think, I think it's just completely understood and guys just know exactly what it is. I feel like I would, I would have to tell everyone it's a must win every game. Yeah. It's a must win every time out. Yeah. Yeah. Every time down the floor just yelling at us when must win this possession must do it right now. I got a weird

question for you. Um, your former teammate with the nets, Kevin Durant, I feel like he just, he's, he's back to fighting people on Twitter. Um, and I think it's a lot of people just looking for a reaction for him from him. But I do also feel this weird tide shifting where people are trying to diminish his accomplishments for some weird reason. Maybe because he went to the Warriors and everything. We're like what you played with him for a season. You went through wars with him in that playoff series where you guys went to game seven the toe game. How good is Kevin Durant like does he I feel like he's almost he's,

he's become underrated now after maybe being a little overrated. Uh, yeah. I mean, well according to some, he's probably not a hall of Famer. Yeah. Uh, no, he's, he is the most unaffected basketball player by a defense. Like there's not anything you can really do to like affect his shot. Like, he'll get to a shot. He might miss, but he'll get to it. I don't know. Like, I don't know how people feel. I do think that he, people kind of go at him for going to the Warriors and those are his two championships. But like, look at like the scope of work and look at how he does it and look at like how easily he does it. He's insanely talented and like he really

like basketball is like that's his thing. He loves it. So I don't know how if I could say he's underrated, overrated. I was assuming that people are just like looking for things to talk about. But I mean, my whole thing with some of these good players when people start to like pepper them, same thing with Jason Tatum, like Jason Tatum is unbelievable. People have not done what he's done at his age. And it's just like, just like, you can hate on them for anything off the court, whatever you want. But like, you can't deny how good guys are on the court. Yeah, I think that people for some reason, they like let that like help their like view of them as players. And also they don't appreciate what they're doing.

Yeah. Well, you know what it is? They like cheapen it where they're like, instead of talking about Jason Tatum, the basketball player, they'll talk about his aura and like try to diminish him because of those people are idiots. Yeah. Morons. We would never do that. No, it's all. yeah, it's, no, yeah. We wouldn't be like, oh, he laced up his Timberlands, he's got no aura. I heard, dude, come on, we're talking about hoop here. This one guy was like, he didn't even win the MVP of the finals last year, he's not the best player

on his team, it's like, dude, this person's never watched basketball in their entire life. You're a moron, I hope that guy doesn't have a microphone. They just give everybody a microphone. Yeah, right. And people say whatever they want. Not us. Not us.

Not us. Never. I do think they say it to Kevin Durant more because he is active on x.com, the everything app. And so he will fire back at people, which makes you feel important for a day, if he responds to you. I think if he didn't, if he was still burner KD, which I'm kind of glad that he moved away from the burner and it's just now saying everything with his chest. But if he were doing these replies in the burners, I don't think that as many people

would be going after him at all. I think it'd be a completely different story. They just want, they want Kevin Durant to know that they exist. Yeah, I agree. I agree. And it's a lot of people just trying to get a response, but I also think he's so funny on Twitter. Like, especially when he says stuff at Perk is so funny. It's also I have a little sympathy. Obviously, Kevin Durant's like such a massive name and way bigger than anything we've ever accomplished. But I do think that it's bullshit that if someone like a Kevin Durant responds to someone on Twitter, everyone's automatically like you're triggered.

It's like, can we not sometimes just respond to people? Like that's the point of Twitter, you know? He just wants to get in the mix. He should just start replying by video and just saying his response is on video and kind of do it with like a smile, like throw away thing And then yeah, I won't be like you can't say you're triggered if you look like you're not triggered true. That's true

Yeah, maybe yeah, maybe you go to video responses Yeah, I like problem is with the internet is the minute the minute someone calls you triggered your it's over because if you say no I'm not Well, yeah that response is triggered. Mm-hmm.. So they gotcha. Then you got triggered by somebody calling you triggered. Yeah. So it's a trigger set trigger inception. Yeah, yeah, I do have a question about about the finals. So I've heard a lot of people on TV say that role players play better at home. In your opinion, is that is that an accurate statement?

Or is that just something that sounds nice that you can say after the home team wins? I think it's accurate to a certain degree. There are some guys who love going and playing on the road. Role player, star player, doesn't matter. There's some guys who just thrive on it. I would say the majority of role players are more comfortable at home, yeah, for sure. Yeah.

What were your thoughts on TJ McConnell last night on a scale of one to ten on a blue collar meter would you put it at like an 11 12 a blue collar meter TJ McConnell this whole playoffs is operating at a just finished a shift on a construction site going straight to the bar with his boys staying out all night going and doing it again it is a pleasure to watch that kid play basketball. Yeah, like a coal miner. At one point the camera caught him, I think, just screaming out, I'm a dog. I don't know if that's...

I think you can do that if you're coming off the bench. You can be like, I'm a dog. If you're a starter, somebody that's supposed to be a dog already, I don't think you get to yell that out loud. But when I saw him do it, I was like, he's right. Yeah, I agree. And you know what? The word dog is thrown around a little bit too much. You know what I mean? Everybody's got that dog in them. The truth is we can't all have dogs in us. Then we're not special, you know? And we throw that around

like, you know, like it's, uh, I don't know. Give me something that's very common. I agree with you. You should have to start specifying breed. Like you should be like, I'm a Labrador. I'm a bulldog. You got to do that today. Yeah. I played like a poodle. But you know what? The other day I was full rot while I was with the Celtics. I was more of a, a St. Bernard. Yeah, I was carrying water. I was giving guys some water. I was looking out for people. Yeah, rescuing people lost on the mountain. Yeah, but back in the day, back in the day, hey, yeah, gray hound. I don't know. Some cool. Yeah, people don't even know.

Yeah, what was what was Pistons Blake Griffin? What kind of breed would you have been on that squad? Just kind of your every man. You're every your every dog Did a little bit everything little seasons, you know, I see the hip dysplasia started to set in you were air bud Yeah, you were like air bud three. Yeah But tendonitis years, yeah I was were you happy for the Pistons to finally win a series that was pretty awesome. I was, were you happy for the Pistons to finally win a series? That was pretty awesome. I was, man. I really like, I love Cade, uh, cutting him. I think he's just, he is like a joy to watch play basketball. He's just like, he's kind of like Kawhi in the way where

he's just kind of like just so smooth and always just kind of on this line, not like game wise, but just like you, it feels like he doesn't really get flustered and always just kind of on this line, not like game wise, but just like, it feels like he doesn't really get flustered and he just makes big shots and he kind of, the camera goes to him and he's just kind of like, yeah, I got it. But it's fun to see them and they're like a great young team. JB is a great coach. Like they're gonna be good for awhile.

And by the way, people are gonna jump on me. They didn't win a series, they won a game, which they hadn't won in a while. I think they're gonna win a series next year. Like I think they're building something. Yeah. That's the progression. Yeah, like you go through the wars. Is it? So people got mad at me because I kept on harping on that with like the Rockets this year. Before the playoffs started, I was like, oh the Rockets are gonna be dangerous. That's just not how the NBA works. You have to go through the wars.

Did you feel that like as a young player, like you have to take your lumps. There's just something different about playoff basketball. You can't just, it's not just like, Oh, we're a young team. We're going to win them. We're going to beat everyone. Yeah, for sure. My first playoff series against Memphis, we happened to beat them in game seven. Then we got swept by San Antonio. The next year we lost to Memphis. Then the next year we finally broke through, we beat the Warriors and then we had the Thunder down and we fell apart, lost to them. And that you just kind of keep getting more

and more experience. You also obviously keep getting better as a player, but yeah, you're so right. Like there's, it's hard to just like take that jump from like never winning a playoff series to like Eastern conference finals. Right. You know, right. Even the thunder last year, like they lost to Dallas and, um, and uh, the second round, right. And now this year, like they,

they went through that experience and their better team for Pacers conference final last year. Like that was, I know they got, they got bounced. I think they got swept by the Celtics, but like that had to be experienced that they could draw on when they were going through this year. 100% it's crazy that they went to the Eastern conference finals last year and they're in the finals this year and they're still kind of like not talked about. Right yeah. Now obviously now in the finals people are but it's just like one of those teams where

you didn't hear about them all year. Do you know what I think it is because I, cause I've been thinking about this a lot. I think it's just based on the fact that Tyrese Halbert doesn't score 30 points a game. I think not having a guy who's, uh, like a 30 point game or whatever, call it 28 points a game. Your best player not being one of those like prolific scores just has people look at you differently. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, probably. I mean, people always say the small market thing. Like, uh, I mean, that team is just like, so solid from top to bottom. So saw the guy that they play so solid. Um, yeah, I think you're right. I mean, he's not like one of those like crazy flash. You'll have these big games. He'll

hit these big shots, but like, they're not one of, he's not one of those like crazy flash. You'll have these big games. It'll hit these big shots, but like they're not one of, he's not one of those like go get you 30 every night. And like, it's a, it's a, it's a spectacle, you know? Yeah. Like an automatic 25 where it's like, Oh, okay. Well, Luca or, you know, a Tatum, all these guys are, are Jalen Brunson, like, no matter what, they're just going to get 25 in a playoff game. Tyrese Halberd does have games where he scores a little less and everyone's like, Oh, how are the Pacers doing? I do think that some of it's also the fact that they're leading score.

I believe they're leading scores. Pascal Siakam. Yeah. And he's awesome. That's a dog. And he won a championship. Yeah. But he did it on what a lot of people would say was like a boring championship

team. Yeah. And so if it's anybody else that would go to the Pacers by boring, I don't mean the team is boring. I mean that Kauai Leonard is boring. Yeah. K so if it's anybody else that would go to the Pacers by boring, I don't mean the team is boring. I mean that Kauai Leonard is boring. Yeah. Kauai Leonard is boring. And it's a Canadian team. So like to most of America, we're just like that never happened. Um, but the fact that, that he was, that he's their leading score this year, when I think if he came from any other team and had that championship pedigree, I think that it would be looked at like, wow, the Pacers just got

a superstar. Yeah. I mean, they got a very, very, very good player in him. He's, I think that it would be looked at like, wow, the Pacers just got a superstar. Yeah, I mean, they got a very, very, very good player in him. I think he's maybe not this year now that he's doing this, but like, I mean, he's been pretty underrated for a while. And then, you know, after Kui left, Toronto had some down years where it was just kind of like, they were playing some games that, you know, weren't, they weren't in the playoffs every year,

but he is, he is, he's nasty. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah What was last time you picked up a basketball? Not not too long I don't I don't go like I don't go play pickup But you know, I'll shoot around with my son or something, you know Do you ever have the like do you ever be like I could go play pick-up and just dominate because I I never Understand that and maybe this is just obviously I'm not an athlete. But if I were that good, I would just go dominate people like you know, the local why or like a baseball player like going to play softball and just

hitting fucking just bombs off everyone. Yeah, with as many injuries as I had in my career, I feel like if I just look at a pickup game I'll mark so I'm just kind of you know I'm enjoying not having surgery the last couple years that's very has has well what was last time Joe Missoula texted you asking you to come back or just texted you in general I don't remember the last time we texted that I talked to him not this season the last season you know a couple times throughout the season and it was, it was my time. I'm hanging out, but I love, I love Joe.

I loved it. Like he's, he's got like an identity now with like the, the, an established identity, he's always had that identity, but established identity with the media. And I just, I love it. I can't wait to see what he's going to say next. Yeah. Yeah. I love the fact that he's a psycho, but he owns it.

He's like, yeah. What would you guys ask him about how many times he's lost the town? Yeah. Oh, yeah I don't know if he had like a straight-a like twice a week. He honestly watches twice a week Yeah, the time when he said I think it was after they won the championship He like wanted to like rip apart his house. Yeah, he wanted to like go back to his roots He's like I want to just take this door down He bought a house with his wife and his wife wanted because it's a beautiful home and then they moved in he was like I want to destroy this house because it's too comfortable Yeah, I

Love that guy. Yeah. I got one last question row back question RHO B a C k.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase qzips polos hoodies joggers shorts row back comm promo code take Q zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, roback.com promo code. Take a important question. What are you doing to get ready for Blake of the year? We're getting close. We're a month away. I feel like I think Bortles is going to be hungry. Yeah, I think he's going to be hungry. I mean, he's a tough competitor. You know, Brooks, uh, you know, he's going to be hungry as well. He wants a chance to get on the board. I mean, this is arguably one of the best times of the Blake of the year. Just

because you got a lot of you know, you got, there's a chance for parody, there's two dynasties kind of going up head to head. And sometimes people overlook the other guy. And that other guy right now is Brooks. And I've just been doing a lot of Blake things and just focusing on myself. I think in Blake, you can control. And Blake, you have to learn how you have to go through battles. You have to learn how to lose first and then you improve year after year. I think that's exactly where we are with Brooks right now.

Yeah. Yeah. And to do take it from me, you know, that it was heartbreaking when I was serving my country playing for team USA and I missed the call that first year, you know, and I had to watch for years as portals paraded that thing around all year long. And I just kept, you know, I just kept my head down and I said, you know what, you were doing the right thing. Wearing the red, white and blue and you know, next year it'll be your year. And I just kept, I just kept being a Blake.

Yeah. How's the golf game? Not good, but you know, we're having fun. What? When you say not good, this is a, I've noticed this, uh, all former athletes are, they'll be like, I'm not a good golfer. And then you'd be like, what's your handicap? And they'll hit you with like a six or a seven.

Like that's you're playing fun golf what's your head I'm not single digits I'm like a 10 right now that's pretty good still fun golf yes yeah you know I've gotten to the point where it's like I'm not gonna like completely embarrass myself I'll have some horrific shots here and there but like you know you generally know I know what I'm supposed to do. Right. Sometimes I can work out. Yeah. It's a skill set that you have to have after you retire because people will just pay you to show up at the tournaments now. Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty good life. Yeah. Oh, I do want to apologize for one thing.

Would you have attended the bet gala? Yeah. I got the invite a little late. I texted Blake and I was just like, I can't remember. I think I was just like, Oh, you know, do we have this thing? Or I asked him like if he has this date open and he replied. And then I was like, I basically like chickened out cause I was like, I don't really want to invite him because he's going to be like, he's going to be nice cause he's nice, but I really don't want to invite him.

Cause it's also like a commitment to fly all the way to Arizona. So I asked him for the date and he replied, he's like, yeah, I'm free. And then I didn't say anything. And then like two days later he just, he just wrote back like, okay, cool. I was like, fuck, I fucked that up. Yeah. I, uh, yeah. Yeah. You know what? Maybe next year. Okay. All right. Maybe. Yeah. I just got to nut up next year. I got to get the dog in me. I was being, I was being a little chihuahua. You're being a cat. I was, I was being a cat. Being a cat. Can I be a dog? Yeah. Big cat. Yeah. Big cat. Oh, that's good. That's good. That's why you're fucking on TV now. That's why you're doing Amazon prime. That's why

he's playing Gryffindor. Yeah, exactly. Hey Blake, who do you have in the finals? Official prediction. I'm going to say, I'm going to go Oklahoma city still. Okay. Oh, wow. My original prediction. I'm not going to change after a two, one lead. I'm gonna say I'm gonna go Oklahoma City still. Okay. Oh my original prediction I'm not gonna change after a 2-1 lead. I'm gonna say I come city they Just cuz they got one game for then it's three game series and two of them in our home for them Sounds like it must win It's a must Blake you're the best man. Thank you so much. We miss you and we'll see you soon.

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Awesome show. Very excited about seeing where it goes. It is the story Owen, a golf, former golfer, pro golfer, kind of falling bad, bad times and then finding a kid prodigy that he's going to coach. And three episodes out right now. They come out every Wednesday on Apple TV. So, Owen, let's start with stick. Uh, first of all, I read everything about it, how you basically like had to learn how to play golf. Your brother's played golf, your dad played golf. You didn't really play golf. Did you get good in learning this role? I was already sort of, and I remember when I met more Kawa and he said what's the best club

in your bag and I said my putter and I had always done kind of I'd have kind of putting matches with my dad and so I was already and that ends up being almost half the game so I'm okay pretty good putter and then it's just kind of figuring out the other part. And, um, yeah, some days I have it and can do okay. And then other days it's like, it's like, I feel like I've made no progress. Yeah. If you're playing a, a golf teacher and a golf guru, can you give yourself advice from that point of view? Well, it used to seem more like magic when I hit a good shot,

like how did that happen? And now there's a little bit of an ability to sort of self-correct while I'm playing. You have to be careful of too many swing thoughts, but my brother always saying, you know, relax your grip. And it is one of those kind of counterintuitive things that I think makes it so hard with golf, the more you kind of bear down and grit your teeth and like, I'm going to just crush it. You can be sure you're not going to so it really is kind of relaxing. And that's probably why golf, you know, they say is kind of a metaphor

for life. Yeah, I was kind of kidding about it seems like the metaphors for life are always. I was kind of kidding about it. It seems like the metaphors for life are always things that are really hard. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. It's never like, you know, walking in the park on a beautiful day is a great metaphor for life. It's always something that struggle and that, uh, a lot of failure, but Hey, that's because that's what it can be. Yeah. So in getting ready for this role, did you play a lot of golf? Because that seems like a genius move by you. If that was maybe consciously, like almost like when Adam Sandler does a movie, he's like, we're going to do it in Hawaii. So we all get to go to Hawaii. We're like,

hey, I'm going to play a golf pro and I'm'm just gonna learn how to play golf. So every time I golf, I'm technically doing work. Oh God, I was saying that just this weekend. I was playing and I was saying, well, I'm working. They go, but the show's already done. I go, it's never done, because I'm gonna have to come on and dress. So I would kind of joke around with my brothers.

My dad would just get such a kick out of the fact that I kind of got paid to learn how to play golf and that now I was just in Australia and I went over to this course in Sydney that's like their Pebble Beach and you know they were welcoming me there. So it is really nice that I got to do this show. Yeah. I know if this hits like we think it's going to hit, you might just be known for the rest of your life as a golf guy. They'll get you out to tournaments, be like, Hey, sticks here. We're going to have, we're going to have it's, it's K-Hill and you'll get to just kind of like show up doing golf and playing golf for the rest of your life.

Yeah. I know when I was working, you know, I love that city Paris. And I remember when I was working on this movie and midnight in Paris and thinking like, I hope this, you know, does okay, because, uh, it would be nice whenever I come here to, you know, sort of be connected with that. It would be nice if that were to happen with this, that I could go to someplace like Augusta and maybe, uh,

and maybe be welcomed. Yeah. Yeah. And when you are making a movie or a show, do you intuitively know this is going to be great, or has there been any time when you've done it, you've done the movie, you're like, this is great, and then for some reason, people watch it, and they're like, ah, we don't really like it. Oh, yeah, I would say, you never,

and I've talked with other actors, you never never know and you wish there was more of a correlation between having a good time and how it turned out but There isn't and it's just hard and it's just kind of out of your control Some things just seem to connect with people and a story and and then other things just kind of miss But you mean you know what? It's like when you're flipping through the channel like there's some movies when I'm flipping through that if it's on, I always seem to kind of like I love that movie, The Town. And it's like, I'll be going through that's on or heat. Yeah, I end up watching the whole thing.

It is obviously it feels great when you, you know, work on something that does connect because you're not making it in a vacuum. You're making it with the hopes that people respond. But I do always say that it's a little bit like, I love school. I just didn't like getting grades. My parents would get mad. So I love making stuff. I don't like when they come out and like, ah, you know, it's like getting grades. Yeah. And then you have, and then you have movies that are such hits that do you like wedding crashers was, uh, that stretch of comedy I feel like was, was kind of the pinnacle for, especially we were at time and place, you know, I was in college.

Uh, do you though ever thought, like when it came out, did you ever think I probably have so many copycats now that are crashing wedding? So I remember guys be like, let's go crash wedding. It's like, well, that was a movie. We don't have to go crash a wedding. Yeah, and then the the crashing funerals that will fair. I remember, you know, going to see Animal House with my dad and loving that movie. And, you you know there's that scene where

they go to the women's college to you know get some dates and they show up and they saw that somebody had died in a kiln explosion and they're kind of pretending that that's who they're there to go on the date with and you know I think that led right into that sort of idea in Wedding Crashers for Will's character but you know that movie I think when we were doing it I know that you know Vince and I felt like we were having a good time with David Dobson. Obviously that one I mean Vince is so great in that and I always think kind of you know there's some people like Jack Nicholson and I think

Vince is like this, that if you saw them, you know, just in real life and, you know, they weren't a movie star and you just were around the guy at dinner or at a bar, you'd be like, God, I met this incredible guy who was so funny, like we all do. Yeah. I would say Jerry O'Connell is that kind of guy for us, right? Like everyone's got a Jerry O'Connell story. You meet Jerry, instant magnetism. Can't get enough of the guy.

And remind me, Jerry? He was the fat kid in Stand By Me. He's married to a supermodel wife Rebecca Romain. Okay, but he was also in Jerry McGuire. Yes, yes. He's a good friend. Kangaroo Jack. Right. He played the quarterback. Yup. In that the, uh, yeah. Um, yeah. So, uh, yeah. Um, that's a good

story. Yeah. Yeah. We love Jerry. He manages a fantasy football team or co-manages or a fancy football team. Um, in weddingers, there's the iconic football scene. And then I read that you actually, you played flag football right after that movie came out and your coach was Urban Meyer. So Urban coached you up on the football field? Yeah, he did. I can't say he coached me because I don't think he identified me as one of his star players on that team.

And I think I was sort of more of an afterthought for him because he'd kind of give a couple of guys like, you know, routes to run. And then I'd say, what about me? And he'd say, I just want you to split right and just run your ass off. But there are some coaches that, you know, you connect with and, and then others, you got to kind of prove yourself. And I think by the end of that game, I did get an interception that, that urban was happy with, you know, the thing you could also tell because the other coach of that game was Bobby

Bowden and you know, he wasn't really taking it seriously. He was just having fun, but urban Meyer, you could see see this is a competitive guy and he wanted to win that game. Yeah. Yeah. He is very competitive guy. I have a question. It's kind of a weird question. Is it weird as a 40 year old man, if I came up to you and I said, Hey, uh, Oh, and I loved you in cars. Is that a weird thing? Cause my kids love cars. Uh, they love all three, but would it be weird to be like I actually also loved you in cars? No, I one time got a nice note from Alec Baldwin

because his, you know, he's got a bunch of young kids and you know, they watch cars and there's something about kids where they haven't watched a show once till they've watched it 50 times. So, said that like, you know, my voice is just sort of there in their, you know, household is Lightning McQueen. So yeah, I mean, one thing that is odd is that now I'm meeting kids for the, I don't know when the first one came out, but those kids could be now- 19 years ago. Yes. So they could be in their 20s. Right. So like a 10 year old or something that now I feel like I. Yeah. So they could be in their 20s. Right. So why, like a 10 year old or something that now I feel like I'm recognized. It's funny to say recognized for an animated movie, but I am, you know, I went to the Rolling

Loud Music Festival and I had, you know, people in their twenties, uh, saying Lightning McQueen and Kachow and stuff. And it's odd because those would have been the same kids that 20 years ago, their parents would have been saying, this is Lightning McQueen. And the kid would have just been staring like, what are you talking about? That's not Lightning McQueen. I'm gonna tell my kids tonight

that I interviewed Lightning McQueen today. Yeah, you talked to a car today, Dad? That's pretty cool. Yeah, very cool. What a great job. Well, tell them I said car today, dad. That's pretty cool. Yeah. What a great job. Well, tell him I said, ca-chow. I love it. I love it.

I read an interview that you did where you said that, um, some people say that you've spent too much time watching sports in your life. What's, what's too much? How much sports do you watch? I, I just, you know, I feel like during like football season, it's just kind of unbelievable now, kind of, well, I mean, you're always going to watch, you know, I feel like during like football season, it's just kind of unbelievable now kind of, well, I mean, you're always going to watch, you know, the Sunday night, Monday night, Thursday night, and then there's going to be, you know, a couple on Sunday. So and then there's college. So you're just putting in a lot of time watching.

And then I'm not in fantasy football, but I'm in a league with, you know, like eight friends where you pick games and that can get very competitive. And, but I don't consider it, you know, I was joking about that finally doing this golf show, it gives me a thing to be able to say, oh, that wasn't wasted time. It was all feeding into playing this character.

But I never really did consider it wasting time because you could say anything's a waste of time. I just, I don't know. I love watching those ESPN 30 for 30s. I love watching those football lives, the baseball films. I just was watching you know the fernando mania one and it brings back you know memories of sports illustrated was a big thing when i was a kid and like my dad getting that. I mean there's i think a reason why sports hours just keep going up it's cuz you can't duplicate that kind of excitement and drama that you saw just as recently with Rory McElroy at the Masters.

How much of a feeling did that give you that day watching it? That was brutal. I wanted him to win so bad and three different times I gave up on him. That's it. It's over. And then when he finally wins, it didn't look like somebody who had won. It looked like torture. Like he had just been through a gauntlet, which of course he had. So, you know, I mean, I guess that's just what makes, you know, sports so watchable or just the tennis open that they just had. Yeah. Five set where, and I actually, even though I like Alcaraz, I bet on Sinner to win and, oh, I've got this. Well, no, you don't have that.

Yeah. And that's just kind of, because a lot of you, you know, you know, that that kind of it's, I think we love stories. And so that was a great story we watched on Sunday between those guys, and you don't know how it's going to end. And it's got you on the edge of your seat. And that's what, you know, any good book or movie or TV show is trying to deliver. And that's what sports just has. Yeah.

So who are your teams? Who are you root for? Uh, I root for the Red Sox. Uh, cause even though I grew up in Dallas, those, you know, my parents were from Boston and my grandparents. And those were the first games that I went to. And then the Cowboys, uh, huge, I was very happy to see the Dodgers win the World Series and we went to that victory parade downtown.

But I've kind of, you know, we didn't really grow up with hockey, my older brother, you know, his last two years of high school went to Massachusetts and played intramural hockey and said, "'Had we grown up in a hockey place?' He said, it's an incredible sport and we would have played, but I get into watching hockey now too. I think that that's like, even if you were sort of,

someplace like England, you spend enough time and there's nothing else on, you'd start to get into cricket. It would just happen. I got a question about Wes Anderson, your partnership with him. Obviously, all his movies are iconic and great to watch. And you've known him since your days in college and, you know, bottle rocket and all throughout all of them.

When you're when you're filming it, though, what does it look like on set where it's like, you know, the end product is going to look so different and visually appealing in this unique style. Is it, is it, does it feel different on set when you're doing a Wes Anderson movie? Yeah, it definitely feels different. First of all, just the way you're making it feels different because everyone's living in the same place and you're all having dinner together.

And it ends up being just kind of a nice sort of way to make something because you're sort of like a little family. Usually when you're making you know movie or show people have their trailers and you're staying in different places you might not you know see much of each other other than at work and that's not the way it's happening on Wes's movies. And even something like, you know, kind of you do kind of hair and makeup and then throughout the day on a normal movie, they're coming up and adjusting things that you're they're coming up once at the beginning of the

day and you kind of get your own sort of wardrobe ready and then the rest of the day there's no sort of um you know interruption so it is kind of a unique experience making one of you know his movies and i think that's probably why he's able to get all these great actors that want to uh be in it because you know it's not like they're maybe getting paid the way they might on another movie. It's because they want to be part of that experience. And again, back to what we were saying, if you have a chance to work on something that connects with people, that's a great feeling. And if you're doing one of his, your chances are maybe better.

Yeah, I mean, they are great movies. And they are iconic. What is the worst pitch that you've ever gotten for a movie? Like the easiest no that you've ever said. Well I can't even say just dismiss something out of hand as a bad pitch. Somebody was just saying, and I think they were sort of kidding, what about you and your brothers playing the Manning brothers? And they were just kidding. Part of me is like, yeah, I'd like to do that.

And I like to be Peyton. I feel like I connect with him as a middle brother. So I think they were sort of joking, but I kind of, I'm like, ah, maybe there is something to that. I'd watch it. I would watch that too. The problem is I think everybody would want to be Peyton. No, I don't think so.

Cooper is a great character. He might be the funniest of the three. He has a great story. He is a great college player and had some sort of health thing. That's kind of a moving character arc. And then Eli with those two sort of two for two Super Bowls taking down the Patriots. You telling me you don't want to play that character?

Come on. There's a lot of meat on the, I would watch that movie for the record. Yeah. And then let's go to the Patriarch. And then we also have a role for kind of a, you know, the hotshot rookie with Arch now at UT. Yeah. Yeah. I'm in. How, uh, how's your relationship with the word wow, Ben, over the years? Has it, has it ebbed and flowed where people, I would imagine there's probably was a time where you're like, all right, enough. I don't, I don't need to hear people say this to me on the street all

the time. And then you get to a point where you're like, all right, it's kind of cool that like, you know, I'm, I'm recognizable and I've, I've, I've been in people's brains at some point. Well, I think you just nailed it. Exactly what you just said. Sometimes it's, first of all, I wasn't aware of it till it was sort of, you know, I think it was already sort of an internet thing. And then I remember the first person kind of showing and they were a bit tentative, I think, because they're sort of, you know, how would I react? And yeah, I didn't realize obviously that I was saying it. And now I definitely am a lot more careful. But, you know, if I did have to pick a word, that's not a bad word to

be associated with. And I remember Beck did a song called wow, a few years ago, when they were talking to me about coming out on stage. So it makes you feel better. Someone did the math, you've been paid $1,300 per while. That's it. Yeah Well, then and then I sometimes will get sort of not bitter but also I'm saying I wonder if some of these internet People doing this they can't find some other words that actors have said a lot. I bet there's a lot of other words

Yeah, well well is a good one. Yeah, yeah, but somehow I'm, I was about to say it. Careful. I know that I've noticed that you don't want to say it, which I completely understand. I appreciate it. I did say it once. That's how aware of it, you know, just said it when I said, you know, Beck has the song and I'm like I said, you know, back has the song and I'm like, okay, then the last list to the list now, it's spelled W O W.

Yeah. It's a lot of times actually they'll have it sometimes, you know, when I'm doing like a voiceover, some animated thing, but I've changed it from that into whoa. So, if I heard you say, whoa, in person, I would actually be furious in that moment. I'd be like, what is whoa? Yeah.

What the hell's wrong with him? All right. Well, Owen, I have one last question. Uh, again, everyone go see stick, uh, Apple TV. It's awesome. Uh, new episodes every Wednesday. Uh, my last question, row back question, R awesome. New episodes every Wednesday. My last question, rowback question, r-h-o-b-a-c-k.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q-zips, polos,

hoodies, joggers, shorts, rowback.com promo code take. So in stick you have some celebrity guest appearances. Our good friend Max Homa, you've called him more Kawa who's been on our show, great guy. Is there a specific golfer that you now are rooting for? Because golf is one of those funny sports where guys kind of root for like, they don't really have maybe one person they ride with like team sports, but is there one person that you like going forward? You're like, I'm really rooting for that guy now. Well, um, you know, they talk about, like, didn't they say, like, the sports illustrated jinx, like, you know, somebody could be on the cover and then not do

well. Well, I've noticed that, you know, gosh, all the guys like Keegan Bradley, he's doing great, and more Kawa, and then Max was just, you know, doing great. that, oh, wouldn't there be a great thing if it was like the opposite of if there was like the stick bounce that some of these guys got. So I'm rooting for all those guys to do well. And then, you know, Rory was kind of, you know, like I said about that Masters, I wanted him to win so bad and so happy with that but. Yeah i definitely now pay attention and it's funny we're talking like max you know just right when i met him and when he did kind of the scene he has kind of a funny energy and that guy kind of has a quality, you know, back to how we were kind of talking about like, yeah, that guy just kind of has something that's kind of comes through. And, you know, is very comfortable and natural in a in a way that you like to watch. I feel like Price Cahill could help Max out right now. Ooh. Like get him in the zone.

I feel like that's a good combo. Because Max is such a good guy, you can't help but root for him once you meet him. Yeah, yeah. Move over Manning Pitch and we might have to move into the, yeah, Price and Max Homa teaming up. I like that. I like it. Price Cahill, by the way, is a great alias.

Yeah. Do you have good aliases, like when you go on the road? Cause I feel like you just burned one with price. Yeah. Price Cahill is like, I mean, somebody was saying the other day that had to have been a real golfer and they were looking up cause it sounds like the ultimate golf name, but no, you know, I think the Ramones, like they, they got their name because that was Paul McCartney's name that he would use at hotels was Johnny Ramone. And that's how they kind of got their name. But no, I've never had an alias that I've used.

No, you're Lightning McQueen. You don't need an alias. Lightning McQueen, yeah. All right, well, Owen, thank you so much, man. We really appreciate it and great show and I'm excited to see where it goes. Yeah, All right. Well, Owen, thank you so much, man. We really appreciate it and a great show and I'm excited to see where it goes. Yeah, thanks, guys. Appreciate it. Owen Wilson was brought to you by part of my cheesesteak. We got breaking news. New combo alert. Breaking news.

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It was this week Monday We got a dog. We golfed charity golf outing cell blue Tuesday we woke up we came in dressed up as the fruit from Fruit of the Looms for a commercial Yeah, that was ridiculous. Yep, Wednesday for work. We went fishing for four hours Yeah, and tomorrow we're waking up and playing Dungeons and Dragons. Yeah. Yeah, it's a pretty good. I was that way Yeah, I had to do a, I was actually, put it that way. Yeah. It's a preposterous, preposterous week. I was very tired on Wednesday when I got home and I went home and I acted like I just got

out of a shift at the coal mines and I like put my feet up and I let out an audible like groan like, oh, it's so good to kick my feet, but feet up for a second. And then I thought of the itinerary of what I did that week to make me tired. I was like, I'm not actually tired. Yeah. I'm not. Yeah, no, my biggest complaint this week was that I just forgot to put on suntan lotion when we fished Man, this is tough. I got a little burnt. Mm-hmm Life good life. Yeah, we're very appreciative of the life. We have great life and at the at the golf outing

I was chopping it up with Jersey Jerry before and he's like, oh look at this broomstick sweeper putter I have and I you know was like I'll post a video of it You know people the golf golf purists out there hate, you know people using the sweeper putter Understandably, so it looks ridiculous, especially for someone who's as bad of a golfer as myself But I was like, yeah, you know, I'll use it for the video. It'll be funny. It'll get people riled up and I'll use it for the video. It'll be funny. It'll get people riled up and Then I like was putting as as good as I ever have and I've just been Battling wrestling with myself on if I'm gonna actually use it in real life You and I think I feel like I have to but I know Understandably so people are gonna be like that guy is the biggest douchebag of all time

Let's make a pros and cons list pros good at putting maybe You might be better at putting or good at putting. Pudded well once. Yes. Yes. Okay. Could be the difference. Maybe. Any other pros? No. Cons. Douchebag. People notice you from far away like on other greens being like who's that douchebag? Who's that douchebag? Pro engagement whenever you tweet videos of yourself doing it. That's true. Yeah.

Con, people might think that you're really short using a regular-sized putter. That's not a problem for me. That's not a problem for me. I don't ever really think about it. And people are going to think I'm short if I do X. But that was the same. Projecting there.

Same. Con, people, if they don't think you're a doubag, they're gonna assume you're good golfer. Yeah Yeah, you have to be good with that right you can't you cannot break that up in three putt everything right? But I at least have to to feel it out, but it's like we got the Ryder Cup coming up I just don't know I don't know I'm I'm that's the worst part of my week. How good were you with it really good? I felt calm as confident as you know I ever have putting I hit some really good putts No, no, no. That's the worst part of my week. How good were you with it? Really good. I felt as confident as I ever have putting. I hit some really good putts.

PMTV coming out today. Yeah, PMTV coming out today. So is this is the big hit of hit picket like a 40 footer with it? I did. Is the broomstick butter? Is that for for players who are young in their primes? I think it's just like it's just they invented it. It's for people when they're going through, going through with the putter, it's like,

oh, you know, try the broomstick. I think people who just suck at putting, they get better with it. I've always thought like for olds. No, I think it like it, it does make it so there's less like you, you can't breaking your wrist. Yeah. You can't go crazy with it. You just, you just do like, yeah, you don't break your wrist. It's very easy easier to have a straight line on the ball. Mm-hmm

Okay, but yeah, I'm probably I'm definitely gonna use it Friday and we'll see from there your experiments Friday. I'm golfing It's my birthday. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Oh, yeah, this is your birthday episode. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah, I mean it makes sense You're getting older you're using the senior tour putter. I don't has nothing to do with age. What if I need you for the yak? I Was all you just saying it. It's my birthday as if you weren't going to golf Defense that was yak defense that was yak defense. I Would say if you need me for the act, it'd be my birthday wish if I could not your birthday wish We should all get birthday wishes on this show. Yeah. Oh Okay, so fire fest is just your found a putter that you're awesome at putting with

Okay Pft. I was gonna say my fire fest is that Hank is turning 32. So that makes me old. Yeah That's every every year Hank gets old. That's really when I feel I don't feel old at my birthdays I feel old at Hank's birthdays. Yep seven. There was a seven year Someone posted there. I think big cat posted the seven year anniversary of the object. Oh, yeah, that was like seven years. Holy fuck Well, here's a fun fact though the job of a male Objyn ob gyn It's to mansplain It's ob gyn

Obstetrician gynecologist yeah, I mean how the you supposed to like know that they didn't put any periods in between the letters or anything Where's the last time you got your pap smeared Hank. Hey confirmed Hank does not have a vagina Anyway, the job of a very unhealthy one All Janice to mansplain women's bodies to them therefore their job is guys on chicks big cat and PFT are practically doctors So okay. Yeah, I'll take it. I'm an Objian Yeah, we're getting to that point where it's like that was X years ago. Yeah, right Yeah, like the 10 year of us at the Blackhawks lightning Stanley Cup final

Fighting the hot dog. I was like shit ten years a long time Yeah, and that in the end when that happened it felt like we had been doing a long time. Yeah. Mm-hmm Yeah, Wow 40s the new 20 when it comes to romance because you've got time wisdom and experience on your side. Oh good job, Zach That's good. Nice. Your 40s come with a certain type of confidence in who you are Can't be emulating your 20s. So Hank Congrats your 40 32. Oh and at this stage in life, you're you're feeling out what makes you feel like a man Now you've got the long putter and it's pride month and you should feel happy about experimenting with that. Mm-hmm. Love is love

Hell, yeah And it's Pride Month and you should feel happy about experimenting with that. Love is love. Hell yeah. Puts or putts? My other Fire Fest was just going to be that I've had an all-time week of bad fits. Big bad fit week. Is this just you trying to get a compliment? No, of what? Your fit today is phenomenal. Oh, thank you.

No, I was actually not fishing for a compliment there. I was just saying I've had some bad fits this week, hand up. I got roasted by Max on Monday because I was wearing the wildest, admittedly it was a wild outfit. It was piecemealed together as I was in Milwaukee and I had a, what's that Max? Technically I didn't roast you. I just said you were wearing an outfit that you normally would wear and I liked the outfit. Yeah, it was, this is the most PFT outfit of all time. That's a compliment. It was a compliment.

I said I love that PFT throughout this first pitch and the most PFT outfit of all time. Is there there's no roasting in there at all. That's a compliment. They kept just adding layers to it that they would give me. They're like, OK, here's a jersey you can put on. OK, here's a giant's a jersey you can put on. Okay. Here's a giant straw hat That was right that you can wear and then big cat shared with me that his daughter might have thought that I was a woman

The other day in a picture. Yeah, I I showed my kids. That's nothing to do with the fit No, that was that was just look. Yeah, I showed I showed kind of I showed my daughter a picture of Pft and I on the boat for the fishing tournament, which will come out I think in July. And she was just like, oh, you went fishing with our nanny? And I was like, nope. My friend PFT, you've met him many times. Yeah, it's okay.

Listen, the hair was down. It was blowing in the wind. I get it. I looked hot. So I can see why you might be like, okay, yeah. In my house, the only bar stool people that are recognizable for my kids are a great trio. Stu finer, max and Jerry. Yeah. Those are the three that get asked about all the time. Although I did, I did hear a story from earlier today that Megan brought her kids to the office and they thought you were Rico Yeah, and then Megan but then Megan was like you're gonna get me fired to her son in her

So I was like no you're you're not her son like started to freak out that that's like oh my god Mom just lost her job. That is the Mistake to make for big camp be like, oh, it's Rico Bosco This is a guy that found my phone number and is getting mad at me for surviving It's Rico Bosco. This is the guy that found my phone number and is getting mad at me for surviving Alright it calls the schools. Yeah That was very funny. All right my fire fest. I am Currently trapped in my own personal

Barstool after dark episode and I don't know how I'm gonna get out of it. So I For people don't know our bar'm gonna get out of it. So, for people who don't know our Barstool After Dark, great series that Tate does and it's basically, it's torture, it's punishment. You can't. You lock yourself in hell for 12 hours. Yeah, he and Oldie did, what was it, 12 hours at a golf course trying to get. Two bunker shots.

Two bunker shots. Why are you Googling Barstool After Dark? Exactly. I know what it is. Two bunker shots. Why are you Googling Barstool after talk? Zach. I know what it is. No, but so anyway, I got a new basketball hoop for my kids in my backyard and it's able to go down so they can actually make shots now. My son has taken a liking to basketball, which awesome.

So pumped for it. The problem is he every day, and this started on Monday or Tuesday, whatever it was He wants to make a certain amount of shots and it keeps doubling. That's good. It is But like tonight, I'm about to go do 80. I don't know 160 is gonna be daunting Let's and then doubling it again. So I'm just in a bar still after dark challenge. Well, you can start as we know no problem It took you know a little bit of time, but we got it No problem, but and and he said like when I dropped another school's money's like we're hitting 80 shots And I was like, yeah done. I don't know what I'm gonna say with 160 at some point

The math is gonna start turning points every shots worth X point true true But he really wants to hit 80 shots and we're gonna hit 80 shots. We're gonna do it That's good. Yeah. No, I it's not it's the doubling forever. That's gonna be a problem we're gonna have to figure out how to maybe come back down and And land on a number that we can we can hit all the time. We're just have a prodigy introduce the concept of the true That's true. He could just have a prodigy introduce the concept of the true that's true he could just be a prodigy I'm gonna probably say no but maybe never know that what is it 10,000 hours yeah yeah I mean by next week we will have 10,000 hours to hit the you know 20,000 shots

he wants that's like the Beatles had 10,000 hours of practice or something like that yeah chief mastery, I'll be there We'll be there in no time. Yeah. Yeah Okay Zack you have a fire fest for us. Yes, sir I've got a quick one. He was just going to the costume store earlier today. What happened? This is for what reason? Dungeon and Dragon costumes to be specific. Okay, so I was uh, I was tasked with going to make sure I get you guys the correct costumes, you know, right sizes, good look, good costumes.

We made it to the Chicago costume place, shot to Max for driving, that was awesome, he's great behind the wheel. What happened, I just had some oversight. We get in there, there's way more costumes than I first expected, and so that almost led to no costume. Like it was so overwhelming, like there's a lot on those why I don't know if you ever been there yes it's a costume story insane amount of costumes going on in a Chicago car well it is a costume store two levels there's a second floor yeah how many how many

costumes were you anticipating maybe like one wall maybe walla wigs walla costumes like when you go to spirit Halloween. We're yes. Where do you shop? Where do you shop for clothes? Clothes usually either Amazon or let's say you go to the gap or a gas it Yeah, significantly smaller than the way you about to say the gas station just for t-shirts sometimes. That's okay. All right respect Sorry, you off there, but like you go to Gap. Are you like this is just too many jeans? They only got like four or five different styles costumes each costumes a specific style So it's like going to the Gap and seeing 1500 styles of pants. Okay, how long how long did you spend at the costume store? It had to been like 35 40 minutes

More I think it was good. I think we had 52 minutes. 52 minutes? We're there way too long. I didn't I had a timer set to make sure I was going in and out quick But then I had to put my phone in my pocket because I was holding the costumes We didn't get the first costume until minute 35 What happened between 0 and 35? We did leave it open-ended for him. I know but like you could have just grabbed anything I didn't want to mess up open-ended. And then I'd pick up a few. I went with a theme. A costume would have, you can't, as long as you get a costume.

Yeah. We can't be upset at you. That fits the open-ended bill. So you had to go, you had to pick the theme first, and then you had to pick the costume for each person under that theme? I was thinking theme a couple of times, but then we're going size-bound.

So then we're like, well, we got to make sure we have enough that means that the people can get into the costume So that was a couple got too stressed out about the theme so at one point I did give him the guidance of like just so you know there doesn't have to be an exact theme, okay? We do they're almost never is yes. That's kind of what I said I mean the only time we try to do a theme we actually screwed up and got our communication cross and we all were shredder and hanker's Angela theme locks it into fork or like four to six costumes that you you know screwed up and got our communication crossing. We all were shreddering Hank Rowe's Michelangelo.

The theme locks it into four or like four to six costumes that you know that's probably all in the same row. Once you open it up to individual costumes then we're back to all 1500. We're hitting the vintage underneath. We did leave with them right amount of costumes. I just don't know if you guys are gonna like them but we'll have to, it is what it is.

What's done is done at costume store. If I could have gone back And I'm sorry that we had you guys there longer than expected there's also a cat so allergies are flaring up It was a whole thing. I feel terrible about it. But luckily We're left with six. Are you confident heading into tomorrow? I'm excited stressed out I I'm not confident in costume selection to be can you give us give us one costume you picked up? Don't say for who but just say one costume you picked up. Don't say for who, but just say one costume. I got a Ringo Starr right now being a professional bike athlete. Wait what?

Wait what? Ringo Starr? It's Ringo Starr if he entered the Tour de France. It's easy. It's easy. Okay that's the easy one. I like that one. That's easy. Okay, that's the easy one. I like that one. That's a good one.

That's my favorite one. That sounds like PFT. No, I was going to say it sounds like Hank. There's one that's, someone's not, that I don't think someone will be happy. That's me. That was, I'm not going, I can't, I can't confirm nor deny. That sounds like Zach was looking at some costumes and then memes like We filmed the entire thing we we gave him no guidance and yeah, right in my defense I didn't realize that I was pointing the camera like

No, we did that with Max in the snorlax gun If Max and memes weren't there Zach, would you still be in the costume store? Hopefully not, but I would have probably been there for a little bit longer. Well, the other thing was we had an interview at 230. And that's when it was like, I mean, memes kept going like, you're good, you're good. Like, take your time, take your time. And then it came down to it. And it was like, if we don't leave right now, we will be late, We will be late for this interview.

The interview started at 2.30, we showed up back here at 2.27. Oh my God. Zach. It was bad. It's all right. It was good, it was good. It ended up being very good. There was a misstep in the costumes

that I didn't quite realize until we were in the car on the way back though, so that's on me. What was the misstep with the costumes? We'll talk about, that's the one, that's the one. What was the misstep with the costumes? We'll talk about that's the one that's the one that someone maybe on that. That's the one that Hank's gonna be upset about. Well thank you for going to get the costumes Zach. Another great teaser for D&D. Yeah well D&D episode will come out a week of July 4th so get get excited for what costumes we have. And how's the diet been going? I re-downloaded fitness pal, hasn't been going good, put track in the calories.

So we're in the right direction. That app sucks. You become like a servant to it. It controls your entire life. It's terrible. It's so bad. And everything has its way too many calories. That's when I found out grapes were carbs.

What did you track? Just a sausage and pepperoni pizza. Full pie. He was like, I put it in the full pie. It was sad to see how many calories are in a full pie. But it's good to remind yourself the next day how much you ate. Like, hey, fat ass, don't do that again. You have to log them.

How many calories was in that? It was like 2,700 calories in the pie put that down Yeah, okay. I'll know tonight to eat better when I pull it up like oh you did the pizza yesterday Are you sure what was last time you pulled this you pulled the Zack? The what day was that going into About four days ago. I hit the McDonald's you hit the exact I think that's got to be once a week I can't what my pant man. I think that's gotta be once a week. I can't. My pant, man, I'm just running out of clothes.

We can't do it. Once a week hit the Zach. Oh, you want? No, no, I can't. What? I'll hit it. Yeah, hit it. I do have to say one thing.

This is more of a PSA of a personal fire festival, that we can do numbers. I have become allergic to my own dog and it's a huge problem in my life. You're going to lean the Dunham? No, no. Oh, dog is staying. But if there's any recommendations out there, I would love to hear what I can do. Benadryl? You can't. You can't sleep. Interesting turn of events because I think it was just

Monday that you were like Hank is the only anti dog person on this show No, and you're like I'm pro dog. I have a dog and that happened right after raw This is your entire body is anti. I am so pro dog. It's in your blood I am like for the I have just accepted for the rest of my life that I'm That I'm walking back into a prison to a prison of allergies. Are you getting itchy? Are you get are you sneezing? I'm sneezing a fuck ton my throat so in this There was a cat at the at the costume store, and I and I was having an allergic wait

So this cat took down two members apart my no it was it was just me that was having the problem with the cat. But Zach started to feel really bad because I started to get super allergic to the cat at the costumes floor. Oh, Zach, I thought you were allergic to cats. No, we were just in there way too long and then his allergies were flaring up and the cat was like, it was upstairs, it was downstairs, it was free roaming and then I could just see his eye, I could see his face just getting destroyed by the cat. You definitely made it seem like you're having the reaction to the cat

It's me you just took that bullet for max. You're a good guy. Yeah, I felt terrible for his allergies Yeah, yeah, no, but that's just my life now So any I just bought like a fuck ton of air purifiers for my apartment If anyone has any tips of what cuz I'm obsessed with my dog There's there's no that is not an option of not having the dog So I need to figure out solutions to not

Be a prisoner inside of my own. I got one what don't be a pussy I know I fit every every single day I get home and my I like start crying of allergies and I'm like stop stop it Just be just be fine and then I'll literally get so allergic and I'll be like this isn't a problem and then I'll go like put my I'll go like snuggle with my dog and put my face like on my dog yeah and then it'll it'll be a huge problem but I'm like it's not a problem it's not a problem like a man I appreciate that what if you shave give it a haircut oh shave the shave the dog bald I don't know grooming. I have thought like maybe like a short like a shorter haircut

What about about a no that has nothing to do with it? Well, no cuz you get the dog hair caught in your beard No, maybe just so that has nothing in now now. I thought I was gonna get good tips now Everyone's just gonna tell me she I Heard no one with a soul patch ever been allergic to a dog but that might be AI. But also I never was allergic to this dog and then summertime and now I'm allergic. Yeah you might, I don't

know man. Maybe you need to get tips. You might need to get more dogs. Oh yes beards can sometimes enhance allergies by trapping allergens, but only if they're not kept clean. Wow. Wow. That means I just have to wash my beard more? Yeah, or shave it. I think most people would say shave. Nope, no.

Think about how easy it would be to wash your soul patch. Any real AWLs out there who don't want to do real tips would be appreciated because real tips only real tips because I'm just at the point where I now I'm just I'm just spending I'm just spending so we need all right so just in summation because we're gonna do numbers in a second but we need real tips only for Max's allergy problems and no pictures of him being fatter than Debo yeah tomorrow's gonna be a bad one I'm not gonna look at I'm not gonna be online twice all right number three oh I think that was Hank birthday but your birthday wish it's

birthday boy my birthday wish. It's birthday boy My birthday wish I'm gonna use in advance is for Hank to get number three. Yeah, what do we got? It's like oh, they're looking at the levels But someone's got to be the winner Ty goes the birthday boy. Oh It's Hank What would be your backup number six? Okay, is that your guess? Yeah, okay I'll go 33. Mm-hmm

I'll go 68 for Brooks What a finish yeah class You need a sweeper putter 30 37 37 99 put 17 51 21 Okay, happy birthday. Thank you 30 Thank you so close so close damn memes you are never gonna get all over this ball

Love never love you guys What are you doing? So So So So Thanks for watching!