Pardon My Take - Blake Griffin, NCAAT With Stanford Steve And NFL Free Agency

Episode Date: March 19, 2021

March Madness is finally here. We talk NFL Free agency moves and reveal our Final Fours (2:17 - 24:29). Stanford Steve joins the show to talk betting picks, tourney memories and more (24:29 - 60:45). Our good friend Blake Griffin joins the show to talk about moving to Brooklyn, his new show Double Cross, how he double crossed us and more (60:45 - 85:25). We finish with Fyre Fest of the weekYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, ad-free, on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, Blake Griffin. Blake Griffin and Stanford Steve, that's maybe the most powerful, strength-wise two-fer that we've ever had on a Friday. It might be the heaviest duo of guests that we've ever had on the show. Yeah.

Well, no, what about, didn't we have Kane and Mr. Portnoy on at the same time? That's, I'm doing the math. So Kane is probably 400 pounds, Mr. Portnoy is 79. Fuck 20. I think no, I think this is the, at least the girthiest combination. Yeah, strongest, strongest. So awesome show with both those guys. Great interviews.

Stanford Steve gives us picks. He gives us bracket tips. Blake Griffin, always great to catch up with him. We're going to do our final fours. We're going to talk a little NFL free agency. We have Fire Fest. It's March Madness. Everything is great.

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This is March. I'm so fucking excited. I'm so excited. It's goosebumps. I'm so excited. It's really goosebumps right now. All my favorite memories in life came in March Madness and my worst two. I think honestly, some of my earliest memories definitely like I think back to being a kid

watching sports on the couch. And one of my first memories was Christian Leightner shot that Duke team and just having my dad invite his friends over. Oh, yeah, that was actually an implanted memory. I was just like watching my dad snore on the couch while watching basketball. Yes. My dad reminded me I went 31 for 32 when I was like 11 years old and that was the peak of my gambling life.

Yeah. In the first round. But it is. It's March Madness. We're ready to go. It feels great. We're going to do our brackets. We're going to do our final fours for everyone here.

We have Stanford, Steve on with betting tips, bracket tips. We have Blake Griffin on before we do that though. Let's talk a little NFL free agency and then we'll get full on March. You now you got me fucked up. March. I keep saying March Madness. That was my middle school ring. Ringtone.

No shit. Did you ring back tone? Ring. Yeah. Ringtone. It would just say. No. The song.

Yes. Big J. Of course. All right. And for tonight's games as well, the Thursday night playing games, the first four. So NFL free agency. Not a ton of big news. Mitch is now in Buffalo.

Good for him. Happy for Mitch. He's amongst friends. He's amongst friends. You should be happy that like he's gone to a fan base that will take care of him. It's like rehoming a dog. I know that like dog adoptions are in the news these days. If you could pick a perfect home for him to go run and play and be happy with, I think

it's probably Bill's mafia. They'll take care of him. That's why this is actually a very great move for Mitch in his career is that if he spends a year as Josh Allen's backup, I think that the negative media around Mitch will dissipate. And then next year he will be a name where it's like it's kind of the James Winston. You know, it's like, oh, well, let's give him a try. He was a top pick. He was the number two pick.

I saw our friend Kevin Clark from the ringer said he'll go rehab in Buffalo for a while. Get his name talked about more. And then Chicago is going to bring him back on a huge contract. I wouldn't be shocked because the Bears, Andy Dalton has press conference today. He said that he has been told he's the starter. Of course, the colors popped. The colors do pop. Yeah.

We told you. I started to be nice. Nice hair. When it's when he's wearing the orange, the alternate uniform, it's going to look sick. I I'm not. Andy Dalton deserves zero blame. I started to be nice to Andy hashtag. I will never blame Andy Dalton for taking money for taking a starting job when it's

promised to him. It all rests on Ryan Pace, Matt Nagy and the McCasky's feet. So Andy Dalton's a nice guy, nice enough guy. Maybe we'll have him on the show again. I don't know. I'm just sad. Whatever. I don't, you know what?

I'm actually, I'm going to say something even nicer about the Bears. They did this during the first week of March Madness. So my ability to be sad about it was was lessened because I have just been so excited. You know, when you when you get like a nervous excitement, like rush through your body, I got that five times last night, just sitting on the couch thinking about how I'm going to bet every single game on Friday. That's the feeling I get when I see the NFL Red Zone countdown clock on Sunday. I'm so excited.

All right. Other NFL free agency news, Kenny Galladay is doing meetings, Will Fuller is in Miami. That's actually good for two. Really good. It is good for two. He's a great player, but he still has. I remind you, he's got another game suspension, he's still suspended, carry over, yeah, carry over suspension.

He's got at least three injuries. Yeah. The football team is getting dangerous at wide receiver. They added Curtis Samuel. So now they've got, I think, the two fastest wide receivers. Pro football focus said that they won the offseason net editions for their team so far. So that's another offseason title for us. Yep.

That's always here to win titles in in March. I did see Ryan Fitzpatrick give his like intro statement to all the fans out there. He held the phone up like right next to his face. And he ended it just by saying, let's go football team. And I mean, you talk about goosebumps, you're talking about getting excited for something. I'm very, very pumped about what's going to happen next year. In fact, like the entire NFC East is getting dangerous. The beast, baby.

You're a fan of all of them. You poke the beast. You're going to wish you never fucked with us. So we got a Cal Rudolph, he's on the Giants now. I can't take it serious when you root for an entire division. Obviously, Dak and then Nick Siriani. So like big names, they added to every single name. Mike Glennon.

Mike Glennon. Yeah. You know what? You know what the NFC beast is? We're walking Phoenix's Joker. You guys all laughed at us. You all made fun of us last year. Now we're about to just flip out and shoot everybody.

That's a great analogy. You're in big trouble. Okay. So you're just going to kill some people. Yeah, absolutely. We're dangerous. Yeah. You're going to take it serious when you root for an entire division.

Listen, you wouldn't get it if you weren't, you know, if you didn't grow up rooting for the beast. I wish you would just say fuck the Cowboys and fuck the Giants and fuck the Eagles. Because that's what, hey, guess what? Fuck the Packers. Solidarity, baby. Yeah, no, that doesn't fly. That's not real.

Come on. It's real right here. That is not real. What other news? Oh, big news on the media front. What? So ESPN is getting the NFL Sunday. It looks like they're going to make a play for the Sunday ticket.

In which case they would get the red zone. In which case do they back up the truck for Andrew Siciliano? No. You know that there's a part, I'm going to say, I'm going to say two words, Mike Greenberg. You know that there's a part of Greeny who's like, I could do this. Scott Hansen should, they should back up the truck for Scott Hansen and hire him. So Jake, explain this to us what, what's happening right now. So it just broke like 15 minutes ago.

I'm still diving into it. Oh, okay. But it looks like. Let's actually watch you dive in. Okay. I'd like to see that live. Okay. Um, Amazon is now going to be a bigger player.

It looks like they're going to be the exclusive home of Thursday night football. That's only going to be on Twitch. They're like, I don't think that's going to be broadcast. I could be wrong, but I believe I saw something that's like, they're not even going to broadcast on TV. I just, I love that we are just doing the same thing as TV now. Like I can't, I can't believe no one is making a big stink about the fact that cord cutting, oh, I can cut all my costs.

Now you just have to buy all of the streaming services, which is exactly what cable was. Yeah. All the channels. So I also saw the ESPN and they're like highly touted package that they're getting. They're getting exclusive streaming rights to one international game per year. And then also they get to simulcast the money. And does anyone flex is enormous, but does anyone, is anyone just, can someone in big TV be like, Hey, the streaming services are just doing TV.

Now I have Amazon Prime, I have Hulu, I have Netflix, I have Disney Plus and then you look at it all and you're like, wait, I just have a cable package. Be careful what you, what you wish for on that account because if, if it all like combines into one, it's going to be Jeff Bezos running everything. It's just crazy. He's going to be the CEO of the internet and then you're just going to have to pay him directly every time. I take $10 a month for Peacock because I want to watch the office where I eat dinner.

Yep. That's it. I don't watch anything else on there. Oh, I watch Florio. I shudder to think what my monthly bill looks like in terms of new additions that I've made and subscriptions just over the course of quarantine. Yes. Probably like 15.

I got something new. I got HBO go or whatever they're calling it now just for yellow stuff. You got to get max. You got to get go. You got showtime. It's fucking. What Hank? That's not an HBO.

I think that's how you watch it online. No. Whoa. You care to make it interesting? Yeah. Hank's a little groggy right now. No, please let's make it interesting. OK.

OK. What do you want to bet? Dinner. You have to get a cat. I'll buy you dinner if I'm wrong. You have to get a cat if you're wrong. No. Yellowstone available on Peacock, Paramount, YouTube, Sling TV, Fubo TV, Philo.

Oh, maybe it's Peacock then. Damn. All right. I'm wrong. Say you're sorry. I'm sorry, Hank. All right. Let's.

So the money I flex is huge. But I'm grumpy. CBS and Fox. CBS and Fox are holding on to the AFC and NFC, respectively. Which should be. That would be, that would fuck my world up if it was fucked. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sometimes they do that because they have to make up from, like, Thursday night dance.

Yeah, they go goofy foot. It's really strange. And like, Joe Buck goes on AFC, yeah. How much, how much would you pay to have Chris Berman doing Red Zone? 300, 400 thousand dollars. Infinity dollars. Oh. But it's different because.

Grumpy Hank is saying no. The boomers, he has time to think about. Maybe 20 years ago. He was alive. So you can't really think about. I just wonder. What it comes down to is I just want like a live stream on Chris Berman. All the time fair.

All right. So money, money flex is huge. That is enormous. Everything else will figure out later and everyone will complain about it. That's such a future. That's also a classic NFL move to like right before March Madness try to drop some huge news. Like, hey, everyone pay attention to us.

Oh yeah. NFL tries to, you know what? Roger Goodell has like a little check mark that he puts on his calendar every time. Like every time is this Thursday or Friday when he gets one NFL media member to tweet out and this is why the NFL is king. Yes. On a big day for another sport. Hey, still at all.

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Choose your own adventure. Drake kick the shit out of Wichita State. I like that. Killed him. UCLA. You know what? Iso choked it away. I thought you said you were going to be on Iso this year.

I flipped it. I flipped it. I couldn't do it. I tried. It wasn't natural. I couldn't flip it. This is the game where Iso chokes it away at the end. He mismanages something.

You might even get ejected. Oh. You might get ejected in the second half. Okay. And our guy Mick Cronin demolishes them. People are asking is Tom Iso on the hot seat. Interesting. This is it is it is like weird having UCLA and Michigan State in the first four.

Yeah. I'm going to take Michigan State and Drake. I don't know who's playing in the other games. Oh, maybe Appalachian State. Yeah. I'll throw a state in Norfolk State and Mount St. Mary's, Texas Southern. You're going to take Drake PFT. I am actually taking.

Yeah. Yeah. What? That's kind of messed up. I've never met the broskies. Drop your joke. What's my joke? The 11.

No, I didn't have a joke. That's. Oh, I was. I was telling you. I thought you were saying in the car. You're. You have the. I don't have a joke.

There are 11. What are they? The 11 scene. Well, what Drake should have no problem given the shock or two and 11. Oh, and you. You combine with which state. Yeah. Nice.

Nice. Nice. So we'll be very wrong. Do you want to predict the tonight's games? I like Drake because they're getting their best player back. Tank Hemphill. It's a pretty cool name. That's a very cool name.

Yeah. Name's Tank. So you should. Shin Kwan is his real name, but Tank. No, his name's Tank. Yeah. Forget that you said that. Yeah.

His name's Tank. Okay. And then. January, February is up. Oh, I can't wait to. We're wrong. And like the Wichita State wins by a million. I actually have his O's.

You hate Wichita State. I hate Wichita State. Wichita State fucked me in the face last week. I've just heard so many people say that Wichita State shouldn't even be here. Correct. I've fallen into that. Yes. But then they're, you know what?

They don't do anything good. They're all hearing all week long. They're still doing the press. No one wants you here. You shouldn't be here. They don't do anything good. Shit. Ted Lasso.

Yes. That's true. Football. Yeah. They don't actually know it. They don't even have a football program. No, I know. I think they did that on purpose.

Yeah. 19 was in 1980s, 1990s. They just said, we're going to concentrate on being a basketball school. Then they sucked at that. No, thank you. Then they got Ron Baker and Fred Van Vleet and everything changed. All right. So let's talk about the bracket real quick.

Let's go on the record. Final fours. I'm going to bet every game. So that doesn't, I mean, that's kind of outside of the final four. PFT. Yes. Give me your final four. Okay.

This is a lock. These are my final fours. PFT's locks of the century. Gonzaga. You want to actually do a lead eight? And final four. I'm not prepared for a final four. Okay.

All right. That's true. That's a lot of pressure. All right. Big cat. We're broadcasting professionals. He's looking at an empty bracket. I don't want to burst your bubble.

So am I. All right. Sorry. What are you looking at, Hank? You're looking at a bracket that a computer made for you. Oh yeah. You're randomized. You randomized your bracket.

No. You hit the random button. Absolutely not. And also full disclosure, I'm looking at a bracket on a screen right now. So I like holding the bracket. I do better when I'm holding a paper bracket. So if my picks are wrong, it's because I'm looking at a computer right now. It's the same.

Right. So out of the West or was that the, was that the St. Elmo's region? Oh, sorry. Yeah. Zaga's West. You screwed us. Yeah. With your bracket that you gave us on some.

I will take the hit for it. Also, Jake is my, Jake is my teammate. Our team name is Marsh Madness. We're competing in Moron Madness on the Barstool Sports Book and it's going to be a great contest. But I'm a little bit worried about Jake because Jake is not nervous at all. This is the first time playing with live bullets and he's not nervous. I'm excited. Yeah, but you got to be, I hope I do them.

I just hope I help them out. But like, get excited. You've never experienced combat before, Jake. You need, Jake is like a guy that's really good at warzone that signed up to be in the Marines and he's on a helicopter. He's like, I've done this hundreds of times. This is the best. On battle.net.

I just was listening to this on loop all morning. I used to like, yeah, I just do a lot of things. You're about to say you used to do Jack Lee. No, no, no, no. I, I brought a, you, I think you were. Bracket poster to a hotel and like would fill it out every game. Like a giant bracket poster to a hotel. Yeah.

Like when I would go to March Madness. You had me and my dad. We have this rituals every year since 2008. We've gone to a March Madness site. So where are you going this year? Yeah, that sucks. Yeah. So real world now.

Jake, you brought your own bracket with like the easel, like, like Andy Katz. Yeah, I have a picture. Oh, let's see it. I love it. My dad sends it to me. Onion. This is where they come back into the studio. The guest.

Sorry. All right. All right. Give us your final four. He'll look for it. Okay. My final four is Gonzaga out of the West. Okay.

Out of the East. I'm going to go with. Oh, that's sick, Jake. He, yeah. So this is a true poster that he would bring with him and they would fill it out. Love it. That is very cool. Favorite venue you went to see a game at.

That's like a fat head. Um, Jerry world sweet 16 for Gators. Oh, I was cool. I hated Jerry world. Kansas, Michigan. But just like basketball. Yeah. The atmosphere is cool.

But Tampa 08 for four upsets. Okay. I'm all fucked up now. I'm out of my flow. Okay. Sorry. All right. Let me reset.

Gonzaga. Gonzaga. Mm hmm. Then I'm going to go with Michigan. Yep. Then out of the South, I'm going to go with Virginia tech. Just kidding. They sucked.

They're not going to win a game. They shouldn't even be here. Yeah. Use that for genius. Yeah. No. Out of that reason, I'm going to take Ohio State. Shit.

I thought you were going to go all ones. No, I'm going to. I'm going to zag a little bit on that one. And then out of the Midwest, I'm going with Illinois. I love the. That is the most relatable bracket because it's the, we can't go all ones. So you go one non one and it's a two. Big head.

If you, if you don't think that I had all ones. Yeah. In my final four, I went back and I was like, which team do I not know as much? About. And the answer to that question was Baylor. So I was like, yeah, I'm not believing Baylor this year. I got to. And I also watched Ohio State play recently.

And I actually, I really liked their, their guard Walker. He's a fun player to watch. They just don't play defense. Yeah. But yeah, they, it is funny to, I think, I feel like if you pulled the like country, 95% of all brackets have three out of four one seeds and then one, two or three. And they're like, I got crazy. I'm a basic bitch when it comes to this bracket.

No, I am too. All right. Hank. Kansas out of the West. Yeah. Florida State out of the East. Yeah. The Illinois out of the Midwest.

Okay. And Ohio State out of the South. Okay. Someone write this down. I like who's listening right now. All right. Thank you. Gonzaga West.

Yeah. Alabama East. Yeah. West Bus, Arkansas, South Illinois, Midwest, Gonzaga, Illinois. Okay. I'm going to go. I have Gonzaga, Yukon, Huskies are back Illinois and Arkansas. That's my final four.

Okay. That one's the. It's like our picks that we do on Fridays before an NFL Sunday. Who cares? You don't keep records. We just say them. And then if we happen to be right, someone will tweet us in three weeks and be like, look at us.

We got it right. I'm thinking that the person who finishes last, the person who has the worst final four pick should have to suffer some sort of punishment. Okay. Well, I would, let's, let's see, let's see if Billy picks up because I want to see there's no way he even knows. He's drunk. This is happening right now.

No, he's not drunk. It's still St. Patrick's. He hasn't texted us to love you guys yet today. It's true. So Billy, whenever he gets drunk, it could be like at like four o'clock in the afternoon, he'll just text love you guys and that means he's drunk. He did that on St. Patrick's Day at four o'clock. He's not going to pick up and then he's going to call me back in six hours.

I will get his final four later because his, I mean, it was the most electric QB bracket of all time. He's still, his brain is still recovering from that, I think it needed a hard reset afterwards. Uh, all right. Should we do our interviews? Let's do it. All right.

So let's start with Stanford Steve because he actually gives real tips on the bracket betting tips. This is the man who went 12 in a row during, I think it was during February on college basketball picks. He knows everything about sports and then we will hop in with Blake Griffin for our second interview, which is awesome. Great to talk to Blake. Before we do all that, HelloFresh is back with HelloFresh.

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I cannot recommend this enough. I actually had like this chicken and rice that was delicious last week. So go again, HelloFresh.com slash PMT12 and use code PMT12 for 12 meals, free on us, HelloFresh.com. Okay, here he is, Stanford Steve. Okay, we now welcome on our very good friend. It is the greatest gambler of all time, Stanford Steve. You can find him on Stanford Steve and the Bear, one of my favorite podcasts. We love the Bear, SV Pod, wait, is SVP Pod?

SVP Pod. Did you? SVP Pod. SVP Pod, dude, what's up with Scott's hearing? It's bad. Yeah, I heard you guys talking about it. That wasn't nice. You guys dropped his name too.

He's getting older. Yeah. He's getting older. He's got young kids. Young kids are really loud and he's trying to, he's trying to get a bed. We got volume on it, so it's good. He's getting better at it. Is that true though?

New surroundings, new studio. I don't think everything was working well. Right, so Big Cap brought that up yesterday. I'm a little bit afraid, like, should I not be wearing headphones? No, just get your hair out of your ears. Okay, yeah, that's not going to happen. He told me that and I was like, that probably is going to happen to me because you spend enough time just sitting with headphones on, doing these interviews.

And then Daily Wager, which you can watch every single day, he had a streak of 11 picks in a row. 12. 12 picks in a row, 12 picks in a row, different days that he was able to get winners. So he knows everything. We're going to talk some tournament. We want to get some picks. Let's do this though.

Macro level, give the people a couple tools or tips from a seasoned gambler on how to win in March. All right, here's number one and it can't help you for this year, I'm sorry. But as soon as the bracket comes out, you have to fill out a bracket and stash it away until right before the games are out. Because what happens is, I know a lot of people say recency bias. I know some people have like futures now on Illinois, all of a sudden, like they're a hot big 10 team, you know, and it just, it's amazes me how, you know, everybody just jumps

on one team because, oh, wow, let's, let's pick the team that played that one of championship before the bracket came out. So everybody's going to pick that. You know? So you just fill out a bracket without everybody saying right at that point and then you put it away until Thursday and then you bet against it. It's really hard to do, but it really works out a lot of the time. I promise.

Did Big Cat tell you that I have a future on Illinois? No, he listened to the show. He listened to the show. Because that felt like a directly personal attack. I mean, you're 100% right. That is me. I'm an idiot. I'm a prisoner of the moment in every way, shape and form.

So yes, I wish that we had had you on last week to tell us about this strategy, but hold on. First off, is Hank in there? Is he okay? Oh yeah. He's here. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm doing great. Steve, I have a proposition for you. I'll tell you after the show, though. I miss you, Hank. I miss you too. I have, I think I have a solution for both of our problems. Oh, okay. Okay.

I have a problem now. Yeah. No, no, he misses me. That's the, I miss him. Why don't you say it right now? Because it's a proposition. I want to, you know, I don't want to, I don't want to. Seems kind of rude to a listener that you brought it up.

Well, if it works out, then they'll see in the future. Just say it and then we'll bleep it. I was talking to Zach, Steve, our friend Zach and he made a suggestion that I should. Back to tips. Let's do tips. So the bracket one is a genius. I wish I had done it. What else can we, what else can we look at?

Or what else can we say? Like, hey, look for this team, look for that team when you're trying to make some bets. How about coaches records against the spread in the tournament? Ooh. You know, I look at a team like Syracuse, we know obviously they haven't been coaching for 45 years. So he's going to have a couple more data points than other coaches. But you know, USCZ coach, Andy Enfield, you remember him back at Florida Gulf Coast, seven

and all, all time against the spread in the tournament. Wow. Seven and all. What about a free throw percentage? I always feel like this might just be me making a vast general assumption that's wildly incorrect. But in the tournament, what you are gets magnified. So if you're a poor free throw shooting team in the tournament on the national stage, you get even worse.

So I take that into account if I'm betting overrunders and also against the spread. Is there any sort of data that backs that up? Or is that just me? Well, it feels like you just want to avoid being on the wrong side, PFT, because if you go back, Georgetown's not in the tournament. If they don't go 23 for 23 from the line against Villanova in the Big East tournament, they don't win that game if they miss a free throw. So yeah, free throw, I mean, I think, like you said, everything gets magnified.

Everything's escalated, especially at the end of game. Maybe we look at, maybe we look at free throws at the last two minutes of the game. You know, who's in the one and one, who shoots two, you know, the fundamentals got to be about the fundamentals. I like that. Free throws matter to me. If you are betting a favorite in that three to six, seven point range, that's where it matters because if you miss, you know, if you go one for two from the line, a game that

you're leading by five can quickly be a game that you won by two because of the last second three or whatever. Those are the times when I'm like, you got to have at least some good free throw shooters on the floor. Got it. I agree. Are you a good free throw shooter or pick up? Do you guys shoot free throws?

I am actually a very good free throw shooter. I'm probably 82%, I would say. That's about right. 82%. Yeah. No, I'm 82%. Indoor. Indoor.

19, 20%. I could shoot 82. If you gave me 100 shots from the free throw line, I would make 82. That's a contest. That needs to be filled. Shit. Yeah. You're right.

That's a pretty high percentage. That's a lot. That's a lot. Yeah. That's still a lot. Yeah. No, I think I... You can go 78 for 100.

Bullshit. Yeah, I can. Yeah, yeah. In the right before the snow came down here in DC, I went out to the park on a nice decent day, 50 degrees, and I was a career 65% free throw shooter. And I was happy. I made 68. Yeah.

Yeah. I had done that in like 15 years. That was a nice brag. With the wind. Yeah. Wind factors, a lot of things. Now, PFT knows the Potomac winds down here. How are you liking the DC area?

How's that transition been? Love it. Love it. Waiting for you to give me some spots where I could drop your name. Not that we could go anywhere. But once we could do that, that'd be fun. I was going to say, I know all the best Buffalo Wild Wings in the DMV area. I've been kicked out of a couple, but I do know some good spots.

And once this... I feel like this is going to be the summer of Steve, actually. Yeah. This is going to be your first DC summer. Correct. Steve, in Arlington, there's a place called Colony Grill, Great Pizza. Yeah. It's from Connecticut.

I know. That was a joke. Thanks. Yeah. All right. You moved there and that's all we got. All right. Here's what I'm struggling with right now, Steve.

Talk me through this. There are certain games that as the week goes on, I'm so much in love with the underdog that I'm starting to think, what the hell am I missing? They don't never make these games that easy. And the games are... I'll list them and you can give me some quick thoughts. Winthrop is going to beat Villanova, Ohio is going to beat Virginia, USCB is going to beat Creighton, and there's one other I'm trying to think.

But these are the games that I'm looking at and I have talked myself all the way into the underdog that I now say to myself, what's going on here? It can't be this easy because it never is. I hear what you're saying. I think this is the best bracket we've seen the committee put out in a long time. Just because you only see one lower seed as a favorite, that's Rutgers and that's a one point favorite. They're a 10 against Clemson, that's a seven.

UCSB, they have a ton of Power Five guys transfer. I think they start four transfers, a couple of Pac-12 guys, one guy from DePaul. They made a good run. They've got a lot of guys in Creighton in that game. I don't know what's going on in that locker room. They got McDermott back, they went to the Big East Tournament, they didn't play well. They got lucky against UConn at the end of that game and then they just got dismantled by Georgetown.

So I don't want anything to do with Creighton. I know Ohio is probably going to get a bump too because you had Mr. Ohio or is he Mr. Indiana Titus? I never forget. He claims both. He can't do that. Yeah, he postates. I think if you're from the Midwest, you get your state and then one of the states that

borders. What are the neighbors? Yeah, he's one. He's Ohio State and Indiana. Yeah, and then in Ohio, he knows the coach. My problem was everybody likes to pick 12 over 5s, right? And if you look at the 5s, it's really hard to even say, all right, what 5 is going to go to the sweet 16 because I like the 4s and a lot better than the 5s.

And I know that they're a lower seat and you're supposed to pick the 4 over 5s, but a 5 seat to make a run when I look at this bracket is really, really hard. So obviously the 12s are the most picked to go over the 5s. I saw our computers have a 13 Liberty against Oklahoma State. They're actually with the metrics and all that stuff. They have a higher probability to win more than any other 12 seat. Wow. Yeah.

And that's not good because I had Oklahoma State in my final four. Yeah. I would not have expected that because I'm going against the bots. Okay. What's the deal with the Yukon Maryland game? So it's on Saturday, obviously your co-worker, Scott Van Pelt, is a bit of a Maryland fan. He's a casual. So during that game, if Maryland's losing, what's the protocol for you?

Are you allowed to text him? Are you allowed to bust his balls during the game? Or is that going to earn you like he's going to block your number if you go that far? Stop right there. Okay. The first thing the whole show staff did was check and see what day the Maryland game is on. We work Friday.

The game is Saturday. We had a private party. We forced Scott into work to celebrate that. Let's just say it's kind of a buildup. Like he's, you know, a lot of pressure. He's in the big 10. They're officially in the big 10 since they won a claim of the chair last year of the title. And he just, he wants to prove his team belongs.

And I think they've proved that a long time ago, even though they won their second game ever in the big 10 tournament this year. But there's a lot going on because he has a lot of people from work who obviously were Connecticut grads. When we were in Bristol, I think there's been a lot of, what do you guys call it, memes or gifts with turtles and dogs and Huskies going back and forth. So it's, it'll be interesting. I'm very glad he will be in his own friendly confines of whatever house he will be at that

he owns now, watching the game. So the staff is very happy that Scott will be in a safe place watching this turf by himself. This is a no fly zone game. So I, during the regular season, if Maryland is struggling at halftime and I know Steve's working, I'll do a thing where I FaceTime Steve and be like, Hey, was wondering, like just ask him for like almost like a neighbor going over for a cup of sugar. And I'll be like, Hey, Steve, just wanted to check in and Scott will be like sitting in the room and be like, fuck you.

Like I can't believe you're doing this. I would never in a million years think about doing that for a tournament game because he takes that seriously. No, yes. Yes. He will, he, uh, you know, the other night on the show, we ran back the last time you got played Maryland in the tournament, 2002 unbelievable game, the lead eight game at Syracuse, uh, Karan Butler's on Yukon pros all over the floor.

And he remembered every single second of the game, every shot that went up, this is the biggest shot of the game, this, that. So he is, let's just say that he loves his school more than you love yours to anybody out there. I don't care what you say. Getting to know people down here, they're, they're a very emphatic fan base and they love their flag. Yes.

It's amazing how much they love their flag. That's all that's Maryland. Like Maryland has, they've got the Terps and they, they won a title in what 2002. So they love that. Old Bay. Old Bay. They carry old Bay seasoning with them everywhere, which by the way, I'm actually, I'm in favor of that.

Old Bay is delicious. It's worth it. I want to be the person that does that. And then they have the flag. They've got. But they also have the, I'm trying to figure out what their favorite animal is because it's like their turtles, obviously, but they love crabs too. Yeah.

Yeah. I think it's, it's got to be the crab. It's either the crab or like a deer that's standing on the side of 495. Because that, that was shut down by a lot of deer dead or alive on there. The public work system is not great down here. There are, there are dead animals all over this place down here and it's been something to see down here. Really eye-opening, driving home at 3am.

Yep. You are right. Scott does love Maryland more than anyone loves their school. So, uh, give us some other games you're looking at. You, you know, everyone should listen for all your official picks on, uh, you know, Stanford, Stephen, the bear, but give us a few of the games you're looking at a few of the matchups. You're like, hmm, this doesn't make sense.

Or I like this. Um, it feels like everybody's saying LSU is going to beat Michigan. I would be wary of LSU against St. Bonaventure. St. Bonaventure is a really good team. Had the COVID break early in the season. I want to say they, they played the most games from the start of February to the end

of March. They won their conference tournament. Um, but LSU, everybody watched that game more, uh, that the LSU running at Arkansas and then they lost a one point game, unbelievable game to Alabama. So I wouldn't be wary there. It feels like the public's on that. Um, in the playing game, um, or wait. No, we're doing this Friday.

Yeah. That's what I say. All right. No, say it. No, tell us. Cause then you'll look like an idiot. You're Mr. playing.

Yeah. Go ahead. Go ahead. I feel like the world is going to take Michigan State. Okay. You know, January, February, you know, what I was saying. Um, so I'd be wary of there. Um, I like Syracuse.

I think, I think the zone is real. I've watched a bunch of them late in their year. Um, I know the saying is, you know, they're playing their best basketball at the end of the season. Uh, they got beat at the buzzer by Virginia who didn't continue because they had a COVID break, but Syracuse is a team, especially in a year like this, where nobody really played out of conference games. That zone can be an MF for to you.

Um, and I think they have, they have, they have athleticism. Bayon's been out of his mind. Dose is, is really good. Uh, them and matching up with West Virginia in the second round is a really, really interesting game, uh, brings back the old thoughts of big East and pit snoggle and stuff like that. Yeah. Um, but Texas tech, uh, is a team I look at against Utah.

State, I just love Chris beard. The guys won eight. He's won eight tournament games in his two years at Texas tech eight. That's, that's, that's incredible. Um, I, I think I'm also, if I'm Indiana, I drive the plane to Lubbock and don't leave the plane, let it leave until he gets on the plane. Keep them hostage. I agree.

Yeah, Chris beard. You should not let Chris beard out of the state of Indiana. Uh, and this could be a public one, but I look at Arkansas. Um, we know how much we all love the must bus Colgate. Um, we know the toothbrushes are, are, are, have been limited this year because of they've played five teams, five, five teams total. It's not their fault that everybody went crazy because they were really high in the, uh, in the net because they got, they was, Oh, Navy beat Georgetown.

So that conference got a bump the way those computers work. Um, Houston's the most fascinating team to me in the tournament because I think that conference is awful. Like, I don't think Wichita should have got in, um, but Houston, they're legit. It's just, you can't tell how good they are playing against competition. That wasn't, uh, you know, can't, you know, conferences when you look at like the big 12 and the big 10 and conferences like that. So Houston's really, um, I mean, there's believers out there to have, I think

Scott has them actually in the final four. Um, so that, that's, I actually like Rutgers to beat them. I think Rutgers is a solid team. I think I have Rutgers on the sweet 16. Yup. Um, I'm just trying to look at some other things. I've talked myself all the way into Wisconsin beating UNC. I'm with you.

Yeah. Cause I went to remember, now if you remember big cat 2017, I went on national TV, I had Wisconsin going the final four. They beat Villanova in the second round. Yup. We went to massive square garden. Yup. I took the picture of you.

Outside the garden. I still have it. I could post it if you want. Yup. And it was one of the most heartbreaking losses I've ever been a part of. I mean, I have never, ever seen that. We saw them all coming all the way down the court. Gotta stop the ball, Steve.

Right in our face. Gotta stop the ball. We had a sweet, we had a sweet, we were only grateful in the arena being able to have, uh, cold libations that we like. Yup. Yup. It was, um, big cat dab. We got to the point where I think they told her like, Hey man, keep those down.

You guys are, you know, you're rubbing it in the peak. Yeah, we were. Cause yeah, I think we were like pointing at people down in the crowd and just pointing up at our beers. Be like, look, we got, yeah. And big cat just, he dabbed in sadness at the end. It was an unintentional dab. But I just, just crumbled.

Terrible, terrible. I, I, I'm like, I'm so numb to it now too. 2015 was there are certain losses that you have in life. 2015 in Indianapolis, like a small part of me is just sitting in, in, uh, Lucas oil and it will never, I'll never get it back. Like that's you never, ever will I get it back. Now those two losses you were in person for like those, you're never going to, you're never going to leave those feeling.

Oh, I was in, I was in person for 2014 too. Oh, Kentucky at the buzzer, final four. Oh, I was there at that one. Yeah. We were Hank and I, the worst part about that one, quick side story is they, we went with Burger King and the Burger King like CEO was like, Hey, I have two seats on the floor. You guys can go sit there for the second half and Hank and I were like, sick.

This is awesome. Went down there. The shot literally happened like five feet in front of my face. I was like, why did I have to be sitting here? Why couldn't I have just been all the way up in the Rafters? This is terrible. The one time I had like unreal seats. You like the Mothman, but for Wisconsin basketball, every time you show up, bad

stuff at, no, I was at that Oregon game, which was one of the loudest games ever in Milwaukee and the other Kentucky game and the other Kentucky game, which was 38 no, that was one of the best games ever. All right. So yeah, I do think they're going to win though. As bad as they've been this year, I think that's like the one thing Wisconsin doesn't lose at is they will not let you beat them in transition. And that's what Roy Williams wants to do.

I know you don't like Iowa. We could talk about them. I actually love the idea of Iowa being outside of the big 10 here. I think Wisconsin falls in that, in that, in that realm too, just because of, let's, let's face it, they're not going to beat you with one on one ball. And in the big 10 with Wisconsin, you know, like team scout each other, you know, they're like, they're not, they're not going to, you know, hide stuff and try and be without like, they're just going to come out and play.

And the latch up I do like with Wisconsin is their veteran guards against Carolina's inexperience in, in, in the, at the guard position. Now, Carolina's got some big dudes up front. You also have your guys. That's a really, really interesting matchup because when you look at that, the winner will most likely get Baylor replaced Hartford, shout out neighborhood. But Baylor, to me, I have them winning it, but they have the toughest road every round to me.

Like they're playing a legit team in the second round. I think they're going to play Purdue in the sweet 16. I think they're going to play Ohio State and elite eight. Like they're going to have to get it up every single round, whereas a team like in Zaga, we know that that road's pretty easy. I have, I then play in Iowa and the elite eight in Michigan. I actually wanted to, because we have a, we have a foot expert on, on your show. Livers from Michigan PFT has a broken foot.

Okay. And I, whenever I think of a broken foot, I think of the way you show the determination still coming in and work every day and overcoming that, eventually leading to that tryout. Now, was that your kicking foot? It was worse. It was my plant foot. So the kicking foot's fine.

You can just tape that up and go out there. It's a pain management issue. When it's a plant foot, that's where everything starts. So, uh, yeah. I mean, Jack Dempsey just had half of a right foot. So it's really the one that touches the ground that makes the most difference, liver's foot. I don't, I haven't watched enough Michigan to, to know the impact of him, but, uh,

Mark Titus was saying yesterday that he's like, we make the analogy. Um, when you're talking about like the chiefs, Patrick Mahomes is the best player, the most important player on the chiefs last year, Mitchell Schwartz on the offense or Travis, you always take like that next guy. And it's always the tight end, by the way. It's usually the nose tackle or the tight end, the blocking tight end. I mean, tight ends are, are obviously the best athletes on the field, no matter what game you're watching.

You're the most important part of the SV pod, I would say. Uh, but when it comes to livers, Titus was talking about him, like, he's not the best player on Michigan, but he is the most important guy because he's the guy that's left open because all their better players are being guarded more closely. Is that, is that real? That's, that's the problem is like you hear guys that have this injury, like they can run, but it actually hurts more to walk because you're

putting more pressure on it. The problem is he's probably not going to practice, but he's going to play in the game. So how, you know, fresh is he going to be? He's a, you said it. He's a, he's a very important player. So I look at, there's like four teams I could see winning the, the East bracket, um, that Michigan is the one seed in, and that's, that feels like

a tough road, uh, for me. Tell me the Iowa, your Iowa points. So you do like Iowa, I, you know what, I'm going to put my hand up because I know I bashed them. I think it's one of those situations where I'm too close to it. I dis, I, you hate who you are sometimes and I watched the Iowa team and that's, there are basically a Wisconsin team. Like the best version of a Wisconsin team is what Iowa is this year.

So I think I just am self-loathing in that respect. You think though that them coming out of the big 10, they're going to have a lot easier time and they're going to make a deep run. They're really good offensively, Dan. Yeah. Really, really good. And when I think of Wisconsin basketball, I think, all right, I'm going to bet the under when I think of Iowa basketball, I think I'm going to take the

over. I like those teams better. They can put the ball in the basket easier. Weasecamps, the pro, Bohannas, phenomenal, Garza's a man. Even though you don't like them, I love them. And they have other people, the McAfrees are good sound players. They got good guys off the bench. So sounds a good point guard that could change things up.

Well, Iowa and Oregon is going to be a really, really big game. Yeah. In this, in the second round that, that I could easily see those team, the winner of that go to the lead eight. Because Dana Altman is, is like low key. One of my favorite coaches. 18 and nine career in the NCAA tournament. Against the spread.

Incredible. He's every, every year they get that, yeah. Impact 12 play and we did it out on, on daily wagers. Shout out Mackenzie, our researcher. He was like 80 and 39 and his time at Oregon in February, March. Impact 12 play. That's crazy. That's against the spread.

That's nuts. Crazy. Nuts. Yeah. And there, that was a weird loss. We have a tidbit for you guys to share. Like at the water cooler, if you guys go to the water cooler. Yeah.

Everybody talks about Alabama the last time. They were a two, uh, Patino beat them. That was, uh, that was the first time they were two. They only been a number two, only one other time. Do you know who beat them? Number two Alabama, the only other time. I don't. Antonio Gates, Kent State.

Oh, action, baby. The football player. Hell yeah. Correct. I want to give that to the football guys. I like that. Yeah. Yeah.

Uh, is there any chance in hell that Patino wins? I don't think so. Uh, they could cut, they could cover. The problem is, is Iona, I mean, I think they played one of the least amount. I mean, they played 17 games. Yeah. Uh, this year, they're going to play that Patino, you know, run and jump hectic style. The problem is, what are they going to do if they go behind?

Alabama shoots threes and they, and they don't, um, and, and they're probably out of the advantage at every single position on the floor. So I own a, in a trailing, um, idea, I think they have to play with the lead, but that's really hard to do against Alabama because they do a great job of making you play their style, which has helped their skelter shoot threes and dump. And they also have, Alabama is one of those teams. It's always odd when you see up tempo team take a lot of threes. They play great defense and that's, you kind of miss that part because their

offense is fun to watch when it's clicking. Correct. Yeah. Give me a 15 seed that, uh, there's always one that like, it looks like they might force overtime or they're, they play closer than they should. And at the end of the game, it's like a two, three point game. What 15 seed is going to give a two seed scare? Um, oh, that's a good one.

Uh, I would probably, if I had to take any, how about the other way? How about the other way we go? What 15 seeds are going to get blown out? Okay. Sure. You like that? Yeah. All right.

Well, I'll give you both. Uh, Cleveland state is the number, is the number one team ranked in the Ken Palm luck factor. They've won a ton of games close. They had to go to triple overtime in their quarterfinal of the horizon league against, uh, IPFW, where I think actually tournament games are being played. They're getting 20 from Houston.

Houston destroys bad teams. Uh, I would look at that as my blowout with the two 15s. And even though we talked well about Iowa, Grand Canyon is one of the best teams against to spread the whole year. Now they don't play in a great conference, but they could. I mean, I was gotten better defensively, but I don't think Grand Canyon will struggle to score. So you like actually having, obviously having underdogs that could score.

Maybe Grand Canyon or Roberts, uh, against Ohio, I like Ohio State. Um, I think they have everything, uh, especially if the games were only 36 minutes long, they might be undefeated. Um, and there'd be more talk about them. Uh, but I, I, I would take Grand Canyon to cover out of the 15. Yeah. The huge, the Houston point is, is a good one. We were, when we talked to Titus yesterday, I just literally just looked it up.

13 out of their 24 wins this year have been over 20 points. They destroy teams when they, when they want to kick your ass, they kick your ass. So I like a lot of guys too. Yeah. They're deep. Uh, I've always wondered about Bad Beach, the segment that you guys do on, uh, on the nighttime sports center, because I love watching, especially on Monday nights

after football is over. Do you really watch it? I actually do watch the version on Twitter. No, here's what it is. You stay up, we get your rating. Here's what you get. My one rate on here, you get my one rating on the TV as I'm playing war zone in the fourth quarter of the NFL game.

So it's on there. Uh, but so I've always wondered, like, especially when it comes to basketball, see there's so many games, uh, what's the process like in determining if you're bad, if your personal bad beat gets on the show, because I can tell that there are some that you bet that you're really pissed off about that might not be as bad a beat to some of the others, but you're just so, you're so mad because it happened to you. So do you have to like submit a bad beat and then you guys both vote on it

together? Or is there like a tie breaking vote that allows it onto the show? Well, let's just say we have a show staff. Okay. And now we meet, you know, mid afternoon before dinner time and then I'll go on daily wager at six o'clock and then come back to our, our, our office studio. We have a zoom call setup of Bristol and all of a sudden everybody's rooting against the team that I picked on the show.

So right away, they know exactly what I have and it really got tenuous during the win streak I had a best bet where everybody's like, you know, you hear the quiet, yes, you know, on a layup or an one and I'm like, what, like people are really rooting against me and they're like, Oh no, we just thought you would, you know, you won a lot in a row and you would lose. But, um, the protocol is extensive. Uh, we have, I mean, this, this, this younger demo that you guys are big with are absolute degenerates.

Uh, a couple of the worst beats we've had a soccer, like I would never even know the soccer, I know Dan's a big soccer guy now, but like the soccer, you know, those are obviously during the day. So they'll come to the show meeting with, with, with the soccer bat beats are ready to go. But yes, I would guess the, the, the, the, the process would be to get the both, the best reaction from, um, from both guys that are sitting there on the desk doing them.

I still remember one of the first, I think the first year we were doing it. Scott had like UMass, uh, in a college football game against like Toledo. They were playing at the Patriots stadium. He was watching it on his, on his phone. It looked like an extra point went in. They called it, it didn't, he lost because of that. And he was just screaming his head off because the reception on his phone wasn't good.

Um, but that's, that's him. So, um, and that's a whole different level. Sometimes I'll send you mine directly. Cause I do think I've always been a proponent that everyone needs gambling friends out there. Steve is one of my gambling friends. You need the guy cause most people don't care. Let's be honest.

They don't really care about, you know, the poker handy loss or your fantasy football or the bad beat, but there are certain friends that do care and will be a sounding board. So sometimes I will give you, uh, I will just text you and be like, I can't believe that happened knowing you've been there. It's important mental health. Very important, very important. It was actually, I was thinking of you, Dan, a couple, and I think of bad beats.

I always think of conference tournament week because way back, I don't even know what it was seven, eight years ago. Big East tournament. I'm at Mass at square garden and you know how they have the sports ticker up top and you're looking at the scores. I remember before, uh, going into the garden at the bar, I bet Wisconsin Penn State over in the tournament. And I remember looking up at the score and I'm like, Oh, 36, 33, half time.

All right, good. And then like 20 minutes later go by. I'm like, Oh, that wasn't an H. That was an F. That's 36, 33 final score, final score. It was incredible. It was like 110. Incredible.

It wasn't even close to that. Um, so not even close. I remember that game so well. I believe it was 36, 33. It was. It was 36, 33 because Wisconsin had the obviously the Kaminsky years kind of changed things, but there was that stretch where they were good for at least once a March, whether it be big 10 tournament or in the NCAA tournament where

they would go no joke, like 10 or 11 minutes without making a field goal. Then you just expect them in, um, Michigan State, 2000 final four is the worst final four game ever. No, no. What about, what about the national championship? Yukon Butler. That was the, you can't, I was pretty bad. You could, I think Butler shot like 17% from the field.

I mean, the Villanova win was pretty bad too. What the Villanova went back with 2018. Yeah, but at least they made it nice. Michigan. Yeah. I mean, at least they were, they were on fire. Yeah. Right.

Don't even Chedzo got him made himself a lottery pick. That was, uh, that was Dante's Inferno. We're, we're literally everybody on Twitter tweeted the same thing at the same time and thought that they were making original joke. We also went up. I also did. We also went to that game in bed Villanova. So we were very happy.

Yeah. We were happy. It was a lot of fun. It was actually a great game in retrospect. I'm going to look it up right now. Yukon, what am I going to see you guys in an event? To do the same. Yeah.

I was thinking the last time I saw PFT, he was challenging me on Bourbon Street at four in the morning to get in a three point stance because he could, he could, uh, you know, out leverage me. And then in one of the most miraculous recoveries, I believe an hour later, he was sitting down interviewing at Orton after he won a natural. That was, uh, I still think I could tackle you. See, yeah. Oh, you could definitely tackle.

Yeah. That's all I would say. Like I might end up hurting myself in the process, but yeah. But if you're going to sign up for 60 minutes, we're going to go 60 minutes. That's true. Yeah. All right. Here it is.

Yukon Butler. Yukon won this, Yukon won by double digits. Yeah. They shot 9% from three. They won by double digits. Butler shot 18% from the field. The final score is 53-41. That was the worst game in the final four national championship ever.

Yeah. I'm, I still hold it against Kawhi Leonard and San Diego State that year. They were the best team and they, they failed down the stretch against Kemba and that Husky team. That was a, I thought they were the best team that year. Shout out Kawhi probably still thinks about it. Yeah. Shout out Matt Howard.

Remember him on Butler, the big white guy? He went one for 13 in that game. He just kept on shooting. Was that the, that was a big undershirt guy, right? Yes. The giant, the biggest undershirt. That's what I'm really excited about this year. Can you give me like some undershirts to look out for?

A couple of, a couple of years ago, I made like an all undershirt team in the history of the tournament because I love that when, when those come out. Like the really skinny guys with the pointiest elbows that wear, you know, the triple X cells. Is there anybody that, that comes to mind when I say that? Oh, not really. I mean, it is a really big pep heave of mine because Anthony Davis, who's obviously an MVP candidate in NBA, like he's a, he's, he's a top five,

whatever, paid player champion. He can't wear a shirt that matches his jersey underneath his jersey. It drives me crazy. They wear the gold jerseys, wear his white shirt underneath. They wear purple jerseys. He wears a black shirt underneath. Like you're, you're the Lakers, man. Get a shirt that matches underneath.

Yep. I agree. All right. Uh, let's leave with this. So Stanford, Steve, everyone go check out. Like I said, uh, Stanford, Steve and the bear, great podcasts, college football. They're going to have a tournament, uh, preview S3, SV. How do you say it?

SV pod. Did you, did you talk? Did you, did you, I tried S3 pod, which is also great. Our good friend, Scott Van Pelt, and then daily wager every day. So Steve, give us your national champion. Uh, and maybe give us your final four. If you got your final four, I do. Uh, we're going to go Zags.

We're going to go Texas, Baylor, and I'm going to go Oklahoma State. Um, we'll ride the freshman Kate Cunningham. He's, he's proven how good he is, even though I would rather have jail and sucks, uh, than Kate Cunningham from Gonzaga. And, uh, I have Baylor beating Gonzaga. Okay. Wow. Baylor beating Gonzaga.

Interesting. Do you really believe that? Or is this, are you doing a coward where it's like, if you say, if you say something different, we're going to talk about it more. No, I don't, I don't, I don't believe in that. The game we did, we didn't get, right? Exactly. Exactly.

I, I, I've actually had a bet on Baylor and I think they were getting four against Gonzaga and then the game got postponed. But I think, I think when you watch Baylor, they just have it all to me. Like they came out of COVID. They, they played Iowa State, who was obviously terrible this year, but they were down 17 in the first half. They didn't blink. They went to the, you know, they didn't start jacking threes.

They went to the hoop. They got and ones, they buckled down on defensive end. They could guard every position. Um, I've really, I like, I love their guards. Uh, the, the biggest issue and it goes full circle to one of the PFT's first, uh, first questions, free throw shooting, late in games. Yeah. I, it's, it's one of my, it pains me to see these teams, you know, play so well.

So, uh, late in, and then, and then they blow it late in games. It's obviously a huge factor, um, that will be a deciding factor in plenty of these games. We know that and it's just crushing to see teams lose their seasons like that. I like Baylor a lot as well. And I think, um, you know, like, if you look at their adjusted defense, it's not, it's not in that top 25 that everyone points to, but I do think that they, they turn up the defense when they need to, and they do the, like, I

like teams like that, where they can start a rally by playing better defense, not by hitting shots. Correct. Yeah. Correct. And that, and that, that's how you got to do it. Uh, you know, especially if you're going to be down in, in, in, in, uh, in games, knowing what's at line and, and there's only 40 minutes.

I do think, uh, probably Gonzaga and Ohio State have the easiest roads to the lead eight. Yeah. Okay. I agree with that. Um, and I do have Syracuse in the lead eight. Uh, all right. Well, Steve, thank you so much.

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This so makes it look like we were super nice to you. Happy birthday, Blake. How old are you? Thanks, man. I appreciate it. Yeah. Thank you. How old are you?

We've 40, the big, big four zero. Wow. Well, the oldest guy to dunk when you do it again. I will be. Yeah, I think so. Okay. Let's let's start recording. Here we go.

We're, that was supposed to be us being nice and it was not. It turned out, it turned into like sort of a roast. Yeah, we double. How do you, how would you 40? Do you ever dunk? Well, Blake, we, we have some beef, unfortunately. And I think we have to discuss that. You probably know what the beef is already.

Let's do it. Yeah. All right. Three, two, one. All right. We now welcome on one of our best friends in the entire world. It's Blake Griffin. A very good friend.

Blake of the year. He's got a new show out on true TV. It's out today. We're going to run it on Friday. It's out today. It's on true TV. You know where true TV is because you're watching March Madness. It's called double cross where it's a prank show, but he's pranking the pranksters.

And I had an epiphany this morning. I was coming into work and I was like reading up about double cross and I was like, oh, shit, that's what Blake was doing because PFT and I fashion ourselves pranksters. So when we read the article, 36 podcasters recommend their favorite podcast and Blake Griffin, the pursuit of healthiness with Blake Griffin said, armchair expert, I was lucky enough to be a guest last year and was completely blown away at Dak Shepard's ability to lead all his guests to a place of candid honesty and such a wide range of topics.

That was you pranking us. Yeah. Yeah. You just got double cross. You got me. What's on true TV? Guess what Blake? I got news for you.

Give it up everybody. Great work team. Had a whole team put that prank together. And you know, it was this, it was sort of a slow roller. Yeah, I had to make sure you guys saw it and I wasn't sure you would, but I knew it. I thought it was like when we talked about it on the show, I was like, wait a second. Double this Blake wouldn't do something like this. But Blake, what if I were to tell you I've got news for you and you don't actually have

a television show? Our friends at true TV have been fucking with you this whole time being like Blake Griffin. Yeah, he's funny. We'll give him his own show. And then this whole the cameras weren't even rolling. Ashton, Ashton, get out here. I should have seen it.

Damn, we're double. I should have seen this coming, man. There was no cameras the whole time we were filming. I was like, where are they? And they're like, oh, don't worry. They're all hidden, but turns out they weren't hidden. They just weren't there. Are you worried that you might get double cross though?

Cause you are triple crossed. Yeah. Yeah. I got, I got my guard up now. Like we, we filmed these, these episodes and I was just kind of like, like checking everybody out and there's like three or four people in the crew that I think are kind of sketchy. Um, so like they might, they might try to get me, but I'm ready.

So now that you have a prank show, you realize you can do this with everything. Like you can say that was just a prank when I wasn't dunking for over two years. I have been, my, uh, my friend like, uh, sent me a message after I posted something about double cross and I was like, Hey man, just so you know, like our whole friendship has been a prank. You just got double cross and I unfollowed him. Block his number, everything. So nice.

I like that. I hope that was Dak Shepard. Have you, uh, have you, have you actually dunked and practiced it? I saw that you're, you're getting back into shape. You haven't done three on three yet. You haven't done any five on five from what I read. Uh, have you been, have you practiced dunking? You want some breaking news?

Yes. Yeah. I have dunked and I have played five on five. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So in a, in a, um, philosophical level is I would assume it's better to have never dunked than dunk and lose all your abilities to dunk like you.

Better to have never done that. Like, you know what it feels like to dunk and you can't do it anymore. I've never dunked. So I don't know what I'm missing out on. Yeah. I mean, beyond just that, I think just everyone, um, everyone in general being like, Oh, this guy hasn't dunked and none of these people can probably dunk is probably worse because it's people making fun of me for doing

something they've never done. Right. But that's kind of like, yeah, I, I side with the fan on that one. Like the comment section on, on which this guy's got tiny dick. Yeah. This guy lasted only 10 minutes, which, which in theory is sort of being double crossed. Oh, true.

True. Okay. Well, we're only, we only have dunk questions, by the way. That's fine. So you're in Brooklyn now. Congratulations. But when you were in Detroit, did you, uh, did you reach out to Jerry Goff and give him any tips about moving from LA, the bright lights up to, uh, the

Windy City, Detroit? I did. I actually, actually Big Cat put us on a tech group text and, um, I just said, Hey man, like, let me know, you know, at the time I was still in Detroit, let me know if you need any help navigating, you know, the motor city. Um, and then we had a laugh about how Big Cat, uh, is sort of the mutual, the common denominator between us, you know, being friends and then also getting traded to Detroit from LA, which I think, uh, I think it's, I think our

friendship has run its course after this episode. I would say so. I'd say this is pretty much it. This is the final double cross now that we live like, you know, a mile from each other. Yeah. Uh, I think it's time. Um, when do you think realistically, like I want to give you space.

So I'm not trying to be like a hovering friend like, Hey Blake, hang out with us. But when do you think realistically you, me, PFT, James Harden, Kairi and Durant will go out to dinner? Um, well, we were about to leave today for a road trip. Okay. Come back just for a day, go on another road trip and then we're back for like a couple of weeks. Oh.

So there's a good chance in a couple of weeks that we're all at like Mr. Chet or like what's cool, catch. Catch. Yeah. Catch. Yes. Yeah. Then we go to catch and just like really blow it out.

Like bottles coming to the table. Done. Um, all that. So I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll text those guys and see, uh, see what they want to do. I like that. I got this app. I think it's called Rezzy so I can get reservations on it. It tells me like when big tables are coming available.

So let me know. I'll handle like all the logistics, all the boring stuff. You guys don't want to do. Yeah. Make sure notifications are on. We want to get a good table for sure. I saw, uh, I saw that there was like a little bit of a scrap with your team and the Knicks.

Um, how soon, huh? Well, that was more so, you talking about Julius Randall. Yeah. He was mad at the ref. It wasn't really our team. He, the ref, he was going after the ref at the end of the game. But you, you guys kind of stood up for the ref in that case because you're like, Hey, he's essentially a member of our team tonight because he's the reason why we

won. Yeah. So you kind of had to get the refs back. How quickly into a tender with a brand new team, do you feel like you're ready to fight for your teammates or at least ready to get out on the court and start like, you know, barking at people? I mean, I'm ready now. I was like, I took the first game just to like, it's like your new kid at school.

You want to like kind of like settle in. Um, but if somebody steps to you or it's your turn at like at lunch, like you got to like prove yourself. Um, so I don't know. So far it's just been me trying to impress my teammates. For the first week. Um, and hopefully I'll settle into like my normal stuff after that. What did, uh, what did you and Steve Nash talk about with that picture of you guys

sitting in and eating lunch? Um, everything philosophy. Um, a little bit of basketball. Um, we talked about, um, the Brooklyn bridge. It's pretty impressive. It's pretty massive. I'm actually looking at it right now. I have a great view of it.

Um, yeah, we talked about everything. I can't, some of the stuff I can't talk to you guys about, obviously, but, um, we hit, we hit a little bit of everything. I saw the subtle flex with the shoes too. You had, uh, what was it with Jordan fours? Uh, what were those that you're wearing? They were nice. Oh, I don't know.

I can't remember which ones I don't know if they're out yet. So I don't know if I can talk about those. Um, so, yeah, I'm not sure. Do you, do you ever have to actually, uh, log on to the sneakers app, like the rest of the plebs? Or do you have like a direct line you can call for any shoe that you want? Uh, well, for Jordans, I get, I get all the Jordans. You know, I've been joined as like great youth.

So I get all those, but like you want some special shoes. I mean, I don't have the sneakers app, but, um, I'm, I might look into it now. Uh, was that a plug? No, no, I catch L's all the time. I'm just curious, like if you're a professional athlete with a shoe deal, do you still have to go through the grind that everybody else does? Are there like different levels where you, like, if you're an all star, you get the black card where you can just call out up a number and get

whatever shoe you want. You have like a Jordan rep and I just hit him if I like, I need a pair. But Jordan, the cool thing about Jordan is they send you everything that's like coming out like the next month. They send it to you the month before. So every single shoe that Jordan releases, um, you get. So, I mean, what size did you guys know you've done this before? I'm not going to follow it.

No, I'm not going to fall. Did you not get those shoes that I sent? No, we didn't get those. Well, I, it's a double crop. I was wondering, so your Jordan rep, did you notice that he, uh, maybe didn't respond as quickly ever since you stopped dunking? Um, actually, yeah. Now that I think about it, I haven't heard from him in a while.

I mean, Jordan and you literally can't get off the ground. I, I got, I got a dunk, man. You have to dunk. It's going to be awesome. Do you know that how awesome it's going to be? I'm going to be sick. Floor blade. First, first basket ever.

You should cherry pick, honestly, until you just be like, guys, actually, that's what Steve and I were talking about. I was like, listen, I was promised that I could cherry pick and get a dunk for my first, first dunk or first play. So we had to hold back and forth on that. Right. Cause like you, you can dunk, right? Like you can actually still do it, right?

I don't know. I guess you'll have to tune in and find out. Like I just, I assumed it was just a very long set of events where you didn't have the opportunity, but you, well, okay. And all seriousness, let's, let's, let's really talk about this. The whole thing is like, Oh, because in Doug since 2019, my last game that I played was in to December of 2019. I didn't play a basketball game for an entire year until this season started.

So I played like what, 19 games this season. So it's been 19 games. So when, when I was like, Oh, it's been 400 days. It sounds crazy, but really it's been like 19 games. Right. But how many days? Oh, 19 days. No, how many days since your last dunk?

I don't know exactly. It's 467. Oh, wow. That's a lot of days. Yeah. So I got a dunk, man. You have to dunk. Like people are coming at us now.

You'll get a dunk. You know, we get the residuals too. Like you, you, people are like, yo, you guys can't even dunk anymore as a podcast. And we're like, no, we can, we can dunk. Don't worry. We'll dunk when we can. Just wait, just wait. Blake, you remember when you came to the office to celebrate Blake of the year?

I had those, uh, those isometric shoes, the calf shoes. I can send you the dunk souls. Yeah, the dunk souls. I can send those to you if you want. They definitely helped with my vert. Yeah, send them to me. What size are you? Uh, 10 and a half, 11.

Oh, I know that. I know that from when I sent you guys. Yeah. When, when you send Jordan's. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe send them. I'll try them on.

I have a real question. I have a real question. All these have been fake questions. Double cross, no big deal. Double cross, true TV. This is the greatest promo, uh, interview we've ever done, by the way. Uh, so the, you get, you sign with the nets. I always just assume like great players all know and like hang out with great players

in, especially in this day's NBA, a U culture, whatever. Did you have a relationship with like KD, Kyrie and James? Like, did you know them? Have you hung out with them? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I've known those guys for like forever.

Uh, James and I were the same high school class came out the same year, uh, in the draft. KD, I played against KD since I was in high school, uh, known Kai's and C came in the league. Um, I was actually working out a lot with Kyrie and KD last summer. Um, when, because they didn't go to the bubble. So we were working out in LA, uh, together for a while. Um, so yeah, I've known, I've known, obviously known Deandre forever. Right. Uh, so I've known these guys a long time.

And then from like a basketball perspective, I would assume, uh, you coming in, they have established team, you know, are you like, is your role going to be different? I would assume it's different, but how are you like getting ready for that? Because we've talked to guys and we talked to Chris Bosch when he was with LeBron. And he's like, yeah, I had to play a little bit more off LeBron instead of being like the guy that I was in Toronto. Yeah. I mean, I'll, I'll be playing off those guys, but I think at this point in my career,

like my game sort of, I can sort of do like those things. I got it when I was in LA, like I was, I was setting screens for Chris Ball. I was short rolling, you know, getting sort of being like, you know, getting, facilitating the other side or allowed to DeAndre or attacking the rim. Now at this point in my career, I can, I can pick and pop a little bit. I can short roll. I can, I can space in the corner. I can space in the wing.

So I see myself sort of like fitting in somewhere in there. And, and like as I play games, like that'll sort of develop. But yeah, I mean, it's definitely a different role, especially even on the pistons where I was just like, I was like a ball handler for, for a good majority of the game, but I've done both and, and I feel confident doing both. So I'm excited to like finally get out there. Are you concerned at all that there's just one ball? Yeah.

See, when I originally signed, I didn't realize that until somebody tweeted at me and they were like, how's this going to work? And I was like, oh shoot. So, you know, it may definitely made me rethink my, my choice, but, you know, here we are, I'm stuck here. It's really funny to, to, because that is everyone's take when they saw the original Kady and Kady and Kyrie and then James Harden gets added and everyone's like, there's only one ball.

How's it going to work? Well, turns out they're really fucking good basketball players. So they can figure out a way to make it work. Yeah. And it's like, like last night James had 15 assists. Right. Like, and also he's, he's, I don't know, I don't know what he averaged in Houston, but like nine assists.

Like that, that's nine shots for somebody else. Right. How does he look when you saw James Harden? Were you like, he's in better shape than I thought? Or were you like, this is exactly what I thought about James Harden? No, he, so the, the, the pictures that we all, that we've seen, like, I think, I actually think though, I think it's the warmups and the multiple layers of clothing, because everybody wears like a tank top, right?

And then you wear your jersey and then you wear your warmup shirt and sometimes a long sleeve. So you got four layers going on. So like, you know, it's, it's, it's deceptive. Yeah. I actually, that's my problem. My, my theory is that he's got a twin, that he's got a fat twin out there that he keeps overweight just for situations like that, where he's like, okay, you go

out there and play because I'm trying to get out of Houston. I'm trying to get to Brooklyn. So you go out there, you stink it up for a couple of nights and that'll solve the problem for all of us. So keep your eyes out for the fact that it's hard to win. That was a long play because we've never seen a twin until December of this year. So he really, he really kept that in his back pocket. There was that playoff game.

And there was also that video where he was at like a festival. Yeah. And he saw, and he saw it all like Junkyard, James Harden, and they looked at each other. There's a fat twin out there. Yeah. Oh, oh, that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes.

Yeah. Um, a lazy podcast would ask you, who's your best friend on the nets? I'm going to say, uh, who's your biggest enemy? Who is, who is low key your best friend on the team? Low key. Yeah. Yeah. Um, that's like just such a messed up question.

Like if you went to, like again, if you went to a new school and you asked somebody, who's your best friend after like six days, like it's embarrassing to say, I don't have any best friends yet. Like I've been trying, but it's hard. It's hard when you're not playing your, you're on the bench. I sit next to TLC on the bench. So, you know, we've, we, we cracked a lot of jokes. Um, he's a good guy.

Landry Shamets, uh, locker is next to mine. So what, what about Deandre? I mean, you guys, you guys literally went to elementary school together. If we're doing this analogy, I thought you said low key. Oh, low. Yeah. So he's your high key. He's answering the low key question.

He's your high key. Who's your, who's your biggest enemy? Right now, um, gravity. Okay. Good answer. Good answer. Uh, really good answer. I remember before the season started, uh, I think it was Kyrie was saying that

there's going to be like a, uh, a fluid rotation of, of coaches and people that are kind of like taking the lead on instructing the team. Has it been just Steve Nash as your head coach, or has there been a day where it's like Kyrie walking everybody through Kyrie's vision of the team? So far, Steve Nash has been the coach, uh, since I've been here. Um, but I will say this in all seriousness, like, this is kind of how we were with the Clippers and I kind of, you kind of just forget when you're away from like players like this, like the, our team is so like, it's so many veterans.

And it's like James and Ky and Yandre and Katie when he's back, like have so much experience that it's like, it's a lot of players like governing or like kind of working things out as well. You know, and Steve does such a good, well, I was really, really surprised. He does such a good job of like letting, letting the players talk through something. And then when he has something, he says something or, you know, it's like a sort of a discussion and it's not just like, Hey, we're doing this because ultimately like we're the ones that have to do it.

And I think he puts a lot of trust in those guys to like sort of figure it out, talk it out and, and, and get to that point. Cause I mean, James and Kyrie and Yandre, the IQ levels are very, very high. So it's a, it's, there's a lot of like player like discussions on this team. And that's kind of how it was with the Clippers as well. It's, I mean, it, it probably helps too, that Steve was such a great player for so long because he understands what it's like to be a veteran in the league. My last question, cause I know you got to run and we appreciate true TV, double cross.

Tune in today. We're running this Friday. Tune in today. My last question for you was, did Chris Paul call you about maybe coming to the Suns as a free agent? Uh, the Suns weren't on, on, on my list. So I never really got, got that far. Um, you had a list.

So he didn't call you. I had a list. Yeah. No. He did not. No, but what? Trouble paradise. Wow.

Why would he call? I don't know. Why not? I was just thinking now that I, now that I think about it, like, yeah, he, wow. He should have called. Wait, give us your list. This will, this will get it. We'll get a headline from this.

Give us the list. Um, I will tell you, I will tell you some of the teams. Um, I've really, I really liked, uh, Boston. Mm hmm. I really liked golden state. I really liked Portland. Um, there was a few other teams. Um, but I had like a lot of, like I had, I had a, it was a tough decision.

Um, but you know, ultimately I had to do what was best for me and, and I think like my ability to get a dunk and for the podcast and for part of my take. Yeah, for the podcast and for our friendship. Honestly, yeah, you know, we talked, Dan and I talked and, um, you know, he offered me, uh, uh, to stay at his, his apartment. Yeah, you can't with him and him and his family. So, um, that was a big thing too. Yeah, it's a free pad.

I, I'm actually shocked that you didn't have the sons on your list after, after the bubble shenanigans last year. That would have been like a number one for, for most guys out there, I think. Yeah. Um, the West is, the West is tough man. The West is like, um, I don't know. I don't know. I just, I just didn't.

Not a fan of hotel parties. I did tell you, and I'll say it because I'm going to hold, I'm going to hold you to it. I, I did tell you like not to make this about myself, you come into Brooklyn, but my, my son's nanny is a huge net span and, and she was asking if I could get tickets because she knows I work in sports and now I can. So thank you for that. I appreciate you doing that.

And we'll take, uh, two tickets for every game for the rest of the season. Uh, I can offer you two tickets for one game, every three home games. Oh, and sign Jersey. Would it be really awkward? I was thinking if I said, Hey Blake, can you, if I buy the Jersey, can you go around the locker room on your first day and get everyone to sign it for me? Yeah. What's up, man?

Yeah, thanks. I decided to be here. Can you just get this for me? Oh, wait, you're gonna, that's for everybody. Then you cut out one sec. Say that last line again. Yeah, wait, hold on. Stop moving.

If you, if you want to, if you want to sign Jersey, then it's only going to be two tickets once a month. Um, assign jerseys, you know, that's, that's a, that's a tough. They'll probably as much as we'll go anyway. So we'll take that. Yes. Also, are you going to do a crossover with impractical jokers? Uh, maybe.

Yeah. Sal, um, I was going to try to name the whole game. Sal, you know, the other three. Mer, the guy, the guy, the guy. All right. We'll, we'll let you go. Everyone watch, uh, double cross on true TV on Friday. Thank you.

Good luck. We'll talk to you soon though. You have to come back on before the playoffs. Of course. Of course. And, uh, yeah, let me know about the ticket. I think, uh, Dax is coming to the next home game. But all right, cut him off, cut him off.

All right. Happy birthday, man. Thank you. Thank you. Blake of the year. Blake Griffin was brought to you by Norton 360 with life lock. It's truly amazing what they expect us to share online these days. Like, why do you need my location, my birthday and mothers made a name for

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Get 25% or more off your first year of Norton 360 with life lock. That's a huge discount when you go to Norton.com slash PMT. OK, let's wrap up the show. Get everyone on their way for March Madness. I'm already excited Sunday show. We will I think we won't have a guest Sunday because we're going to do our classic. It's going to be similar to a football Monday. We just have so many sports to talk about.

My rhythm is going to be all thrown off because Sunday night, I'm going to go to sleep and then Monday, I'm going to be like, wait, college basketball all day again, more college basketball. I am now that we're in it now that it's happened. I don't like it. Oh, wait, breaking news. OK. Billy. Billy, we need your final four. We were logging them all into the part of my take archives.

Gonzaga. OK. Michigan. OK. Texas Tech. OK. And. It's going to say Illinois. Iowa can't be the final four, right? Because the Michigan. Well, you can if you want to.

They're your final four. And it would be in Zaga. All right. So no, so that's good, though. Iowa, Gonzaga, Texas Tech and Michigan. No, but Michigan. Michigan would have to play. No, Michigan's not in the same bracket as Iowa. That's not. It's not.

It's not why. All right. So who's in your finals? Is it Gonzaga and Iowa in the finals? Yeah. Is that is that work? Yeah. Yeah. All right. So Gonzaga. So Gonzaga, Iowa, Michigan, Texas Tech. That is your final four. Yeah.

All right. Michigan over Iowa. All right. Michigan over Iowa. OK. All right. I like it. All big 10. I love it. All right. Thank you, Billy. Love you. Do you need me for the show? No, we're doing it right now. OK. All right. OK. Thanks for asking.

Three teams on the left side of the bracket right now. From part of my take, Hank or Jake, Bill, breaking news. Billy's final four. We didn't lie to him. No. We could have held him out a little bit, but that wouldn't be funny. I know. This is Billy. You don't want to you don't want to change Billy. Yeah. The second Billy starts to get in on the joke, then it's all over.

I mean, watch watch with like COVID. He ends up being right. Like watching an entire bracket gets like wiped out. They're like, well, we got to pick two from the West now. Gonzaga and Iowa are both in there. OK. Firefest of the week. P.F.T., you want to start? Yeah, my Firefest of the week is I got I got fished.

I got hacked by Brogan Roback. So if I'm going to get my if I'm going to get my account information stolen, if I'm going to have somebody hack into my account post whatever they want. I could have probably told you it would have been through a Brogan Roback related fishing scheme. But he DMed me yesterday from his account, and I thought it was actually him because we've DMed before. But he goes, hey, bro, and that's just how I started.

So I was like, obviously, this is pure Brogan. This is actually him. And I was like, sup, he told me he was running a shoe company and that he wanted to give me some shoes that I could wear and talk about. And so I was like, sure, you know what? Yeah, I'll wear the Brogan Roback ones, send him to me. And then he gave me a link to click on, which I did. And then that link asked me to log into my Facebook account, which I did.

And then a bunch of like Arabic writing flashed across my screen. Yeah. And I was like, this is not good. What I've just done. When you said that you clicked on a link, I was like, OK, anyone could have that happen, probably not from Brogan Roback. But whatever, that makes sense. But then you were like, yeah, I went and I filled out all my passwords. That was like, I had a moment where I was like, is PFT OK?

Because that's that's like rookie balls. I filled out. This is how excited I was to try on Brogan Roback's new select line of athletic wear. So, yes, I filled out my password, all that information. Then I went back. I immediately started to sweat and I was like, I've got to change all my information. I hit him back. I was like, hey, man, that link looks a little sus. Are you sure this is you?

He's like, what are you talking about? Yeah, it's me. Like the person that did the hacking did a very good job. Yes. And apparently other people got hacked via a Brogan Roback related phishing scheme, too. Like a bunch of his former college teammates were tweeting about it today. So I wasn't the only one that did it. But I changed all my passwords and I was like, this link does look suspect.

I don't think that it's you, Brogan. He's like, oh, yeah, so let me just give me your phone number. I'll text you pictures of the shoes. And I was about to give him my phone. I was like, yeah, that's not scary. I was like, no, you give me your number. And then he just went radio silent on that. So yeah, I'm a we'll see what happens.

But if I if my account starts to tweet out just links to hardcore pornography like Albert Breers did a few years ago, or James Browns did. That was him just on you just. Yeah, little was it little blonde bitch. I'll fucking and sucking her personal trainer, I think. Yeah, actually, that would be the perfect time for me to just get a little loose with my direct links that I tweet out.

Yes, I don't I've never really understood why porn websites have the tweet this video button right next to the video. Sexy little brunette, bitch, sucking and fucking her personal trainers. Big cock. Yeah, that was James Brown. James Brown 2016. Sorry for anyone who's listening to this with their kids in the car. But I that's just a fact beforehand as to as to which way I think. Wait, did I read that right?

Can you read it for me, Jake? I don't think I pronounced. Can you spell it out right? How are you? No, it's OK. It's there. OK. All right. Yeah, I mean, that's it's hilarious that you got fish by Brogan Roeback. Yeah, if I had to pick a way to get my account hacked into, I'm glad that it was at least through Brogan. It's very on brand.

Also, this is people forget about the Albert Brear hacking that happened back in 2016, I think. He was like, Pornhub, thanks for letting me shoot the awesome anal scene with Ava Adams. I hate my job. I rather work as a porn star. Nothing would make me happier than if Chick-Ree come to a little more on my face. Oh, my God.

It is with a heavy heart. I am to announce that Albert Brear passed away last night at three thirty seven a.m. The cause of death is yet unknown. Amazing. Oh, I want to be a gay porn star. So bad. Cry face, cry face, cry face, cry face. It was an ultimate hack. But yeah, so if my account goes haywire, it's not me. I got duped by Brogan Roeback and I honestly wouldn't want it any other way.

Yeah. Yeah. By the way, I just got a D.M. that Mike Glennon might be a A.W.L. So we will try to get him on the show. Do you have any new athletic gear coming out? Mike Glennon's any scarves? Oh, I don't know. The neck warmers. Yeah, shoes shoes. Yeah. No, it's no, this was a tip.

No one asked me to click on a link. I don't click links. All right, Hank. I don't have a firefight. It's March Madness, best day of the year, best weekend of the year. If I did have one, I mean, we don't really have real jobs. It doesn't affect us as much. I do feel bad for the people that are going to have.

There's going to be a lot of people with some rough Mondays. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Honestly, this is the perfect time of year. Just quit your job. I had some friends that did that for a couple of years. They would just get a job and then they quit it for March Madness through the Masters every year. And then it was actually the hard factor, guys.

And then they'd just come. They'd go back on the job hunt in like mid April, late April. Yeah. Worked out well for it. The Monday really is going to fuck people really bad. And I was I was thinking about it more like it Saturday is going to be so bizarre because Saturday was always the day that you had two days straight of just chaos. And then you had that like nice little Saturday morning

where the games don't start to like 12, 30 or one o'clock and you ease your way into it. Now it's just Saturday is just going to be a blitz again. All day. Fuck. Hank, I've got a firefest for you if you want one. OK. I don't want to tell you this on on Wednesday night, but I won another game of war zone. Wow. Oh, in your face after we after we got a couple of dubs of Billy.

I said I was logging off for the night. I played one game of solos, got another dub. Wow. So I mean, I'm happy for you. I've never won a soul's game myself. So I was going to ask you if you if you still not ever won. No, no, he has not. Jake, you've been playing for one. Yeah.

So with the whole NFL media news, also one thing I omitted that's important ESPN ABC is now in the Super Bowl mix. Is this your firefest that you know that? No. Oh, I mean, that could be. But I think the end is near for Alan Chris because NBC signed because my breeze. My three go there, which is bittersweet because of fellow Syracuse alum. I got a stake.

I don't think your breeze is going to be that good in the booth. You might not be in the booth immediately, right? No, but if what Jake is saying ends up being true, I am not. There's going to be a wave and we saw with Jason Wintner. There's going to be a wave of people being like in as much shit as we give Tony Romo, he's objectively good. Yeah, our problem with Tony Romo is just that he's he just like Bukaki's weird noises into our ears at random times.

I also think our problem with Tony Romo is a problem with ourselves, where it's like we have to find something that's wrong with everybody to laugh at and to joke about. He's objectively very good. Very good. Drew Brees, you're right. I think he's kind of got a little bit of that Jason Wintner. He's kind of a robot, right? Exactly. I don't I've never cheesed once watching Drew Brees give a press conference, right?

Tony Romo, even when Tony Romo was playing, he had a personality. I don't think Drew Brees has a personality. Yeah, he's never done anything cool like gone to Cabo before a playoff game. It's not a knock on him. It's just it's just I don't think he's. Yeah, I would sell all my stock on Drew Brees being good in the booth. Also, with the rib injuries, his lung capacity is an issue. Yeah, let's get wind of these that we won't have Alan Chris much longer. I don't even know who that is. Alan Chris,

Al Michaels and Chris Collins. Oh, I thought you said Alan Chris. I did say Alan Chris. And I was pretending to be like, yeah, that's it's going to be tough to get over. He's not your pro's, very like Ruth Chris. Bad of you to not do the blastings, too. Fair. What are you? Sunday night with Alan Chris or something? Isn't that in the song? I don't know.

You're the best on TV, according to Carrie Underwood. Yeah, but yeah, you should have said Mr. Michaels and Mr. College. Like this guy called the miracle on ice, Jake. It's true. He's not a spout. But although Alan Chris would be a great name for a generic sports broadcaster. Yeah, yeah, that might be my brother. I might create a burner.

Chris, apologies. All right, my firefests is it's not that the bear signed it all. And this is just the memes that get sent around and I get tagged. Pretty much my message are just one long shitting on the bears meme for like three days straight. So I had to put out the public service announcements that I did see the Wheel of Fortune one. It doesn't even fucking make sense because the N is used in in the Wilson.

It's on and then it's not using Andy. So it doesn't make sense. Doesn't make sense at all. Because if you already guessed it, you have your RST L and E. Correct. Yeah. So fix your fucking memes. I'm not mad about it. Wait, wait, I'm going to let me pull up this meme real quick. I'm so mad about it.

Don't stop sending it to Big Hat, though. Stop sending it to me. It's not funny. And everyone's like, oh, my God, look how funny this is. I like the one where it was Andy Dalton with Russell Wilson's hair. Yeah. Did you see the video of Russell Wilson riding his Peloton wearing an oxygen mask? Yes. Yeah. Jesus.

He looked lame. He looked limited. So lame. He looked very limited. Such a lameo. Let me pull up this meme real quick here because there was something else that was wrong with the Wheel of Fortune. Jake's got it right there. OK, it's just stupid. OK, so here's the problem.

Big Hat, here's the problem right off the bat. RST L and E is given to you all the time. Right. That's only in the bonus round. The real puzzles. No, that is the. Jake, that's the bonus round puzzle right there. Are we sure? Yes. Oh, so so R should be there for Russ.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The whole thing doesn't make sense. It's stupid. Stop sharing it. I was a bad. The essence by me. All right, let's guess numbers. I got the generator right up. Twenty seven, ninety nine.

Eight. I'll do sixty nine. Sixty nine. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You got to take advantage. It also be. Oh, I can't. I can't guess, too. What? OK.

No, I can't. Nineteen. Oh, so close. Damn. It's a pretty good one. Did you have 19? No. This would be like, can we all agree that if we if anyone guesses it on the road? It's like a half a guess.

Yeah, it doesn't really count. It's not a full share of a win like you winning on another podcast. Right. That didn't count. That's an exhibition. Right. It was just exceptional. There was two in a row. But yeah, I don't I don't I don't take claim as a two time winner. No.

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