Pardon My Take - Booger McFarland, MNF Recap, Playoff Baseball Is Here, College Football + FAQ’s

Episode Date: October 2, 2024

Playoff baseball is here and the Mets may be a team of destiny. Tigers win with their hoss Tarik Skubal, Orioles bad luck continues and we find a new website to grade fan experiences (00:00:00-00:21:21). RIP Dikembe Mutombo and Pete Rose (00:21:21-00:30:26). Monday Night Football had two very different games and the Lions looked awesome while the Dolphins are a bummer (00:30:26-00:48:15). We talk College Football (00:48:15-01:07:51). Hot Seat/Cool Throne (01:07:51-01:25:47). Booger McFarland joins the show to talk ball, quarterback play, building a culture in football and more (01:25:47-02:12:00). We then finish with listener submitted FAQ’s (02:12:00-02:19:31).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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Today is Wednesday October 2nd and PFT the New York Mets might be a team of destiny. Yeah. It feels that way. Doesn't it? So they're like a fun team. They're playing for each other. They're emotional out there. People are crying. Uh, it's, it's hard to say if we're power ranking teams of destiny right now, I would say the Mets would probably be the leader in the clubhouse.

Yeah, because they have the saying, they have the OMG that they're running around, the rallying cry. They have, Monday was one of the most dramatic last days of the regular season. The Braves and the Mets had to play in a double header. If they split the games, they both go into the playoffs. If one team sweeps the other team is out, it looked like I, so we have a lot of Mets fans that we know

a lot of Mets fans we work with memes is a Mets fan. He's, he's not here right now. He's out for a couple of days, but uh, I think seeing like our, our colleague Meek Phil cry, people were making fun of him being like, dude, they just clinched a wild card spot, but that's not knowing the Mets history going into Monday. I think most Mets fans were fearing the embarrassment and dread of somehow losing both games, especially in a situation where the second game will not matter whatsoever to the team that wins the first game. And the Mets were down and lifeless. They come all the way back. Then the Braves come back. Then the Mets come back. And it

was just like Lindor who's, who's, uh, you know, should, should get heavy consideration for MVP, even though he plays in the same league as show a, the Mets might be a team of destiny and our guy Max is scared. He thinks the Mets will just never lose again, even though they technically lost the second game because they were just swinging at everything and they didn't give a fuck and they were just trying to get out of there. Yeah. Going into that game, the rules that were set into place by major league baseball were so funny because you had the opportunity and it actually ended up happening where both teams would get in at the end of the day. So they were not allowed to have a champagne celebration for the Mets after the first game was over.

They had to wait until after the second game and then we had double champagne celebrations. I think that they should have let the Mets celebrate their win. They should have been able to get drunk. Is there something in the rules about not being able to play baseball when you're drunk? That would have been funny to watch in the second game.

And then, so they had that rule in place and then the manager of the Mets said that, uh, maybe after the games were over, they'll just, instead of doing a celebration in their own locker rooms, they'll just go out and hug on the field. They'll hug the other team. So I was rooting for the hug basically just because it was a Frank the tank fanfic come to life where the Mets manager was actually saying, let's hug the Braves and celebrate them and their victories and their successes. But yeah, Max, I was actually curious too, because looking at the playoff bracket,

I would imagine that you do not want to play the Mets if you had your choice. Is that true? I've been rooting against the Mets. I wanted nothing more than to play any team but the Mets going into yesterday. And the way everything has gone in the past two days, it's like I have zero confidence in that series. They're exactly the team that you do not want to face in the playoffs. We haven't needed to play meaningful baseball in a month.

Every single game has been down to the wire for them. They go down, they come back. Even in the Brewers game today, they went down twice, came back twice and they keep having clutch hit after clutch hit. It's the exact team that gets hot at the end of September that it just doesn't matter who they play. They're gonna win.

And the Phillies haven't played meaningful baseball like all year. Yeah. Hey, Max, turn your headphones off. I'm worried. I'm worried that our boys learning because old Max would have been like, there are the meds, fuck them. We'll beat the fuck out of the mess. The fact that he's got this trepidation, that he's a little insecure that I don't like that. I want Max to get back to like, fuck them said, no, but the meds are, they're playing great ball right now. And this is

the scariest part about postseason baseball is it's just so it's simultaneously the longest, most torturous thing you can watch. And also the quickest thing that can happen because like even the wild card round, especially tomorrow, there will probably be two out of four of those teams, maybe three out of four, maybe all four out of the playoffs and it happened like that like the Brewers I know Brewers fans are sitting there like not again. I this happens every year We're good and then we get there and it's just instant. So Even in the the DS when it's a five game series You can just be done in a matter of like three or four days and just it makes no sense

Because you watch this you watch six months of baseball and then boom it's over. So I understand where Max is coming from. The Mets look really good. Yeah I would be nervous over Max. I'd be very nervous our Max because that was that that Monday game felt like it let it did feel like going into that game. the fan base, especially maybe not the team was feeling the pressure of this will be so embarrassing if we lose two games when the second game doesn't matter. And the way they won the first game with Lindor just being an absolute clutch, a monster of a hitter. It just, it makes you play free and the Mets are playing free and they dominated

the Brewers. They jumped all over the Brewers today. I wonder if Mets fans are pissed off that they had to listen to our boy Christian Yelich talk about the game. Yeah. That was given some Jason Kelsey vibes during Monday night football. Yeah. But we love Christian. We do love Christian. Yeah. It was, uh, the Mets just jumped all over him. Did you also see there's a What was the I saw it somewhere? There's the Mets called up a dude who's like Do they call up? I gotta find it. I gotta find it. But either way. Yeah Mets look good The Tigers need a lot of credit. What Mrs. Met looking right? Miss Met looking voluptuous. They did not nerf Mrs. Met. That. Ms. Met looking voluptuous. That's not nerf Mrs. Met.

That's a body built for October. Yeah. Yeah. So the Tigers too, like we have just great stories right now in October. Tarek Scruble, who's a Cy Young, shout out that AWL. I've said it on the show. I'll find the tweet when he actually officially wins it,

but he's going to win it. Uh, who handed me an envelope in Detroit when we were at the, uh, NFL draft and he walked away. He just handed me the envelope and walked away. And I was like, what the fuck is this? I opened up the envelope in the envelope. It was a piece of paper. This says Tarek Scoobal, uh, Cy Young take it right now. Four 50 to four plus four 50. I got it at four plus 400. I bet it instantly.

I've never done that blind trust in this dude who just handed me the envelope. He's going to win the Cy Young. He was an absolute beast. What'd you say? You blind trusted people. Well, blind trusted, never an envelope. Yeah. Spin.

Usually just people just hand me. Yeah. They just say things that I just bet it, but like an envelope felt Yeah. People just hand me, yeah, they just say things and I just bet it. But like an envelope felt official. It was like he was, he was handing something that was like very official that he wrote down who has envelopes. Like I don't even, where the fuck would you get an envelope these days? Yeah. But he was, that was actually, it was the mentalist that did it. Yeah. Nailed it again. I mean, it was great bet. It was shout out that guy. I got to find him and I got It was shout out that guy I gotta find him and I gotta buy him something so I will buy him something if the guy can prove it

I'll figure out through my tweets if I can figure out like the if I took a picture with him or something, but He was an absolute beast in Houston today just haas like there there's something about those top of the rotation just haas like there there's something about those top of the rotation haases where they just get on the mound and they just absolutely dominate and shove and that's what he did to the Astros today. It felt good. If it looked good it felt good. Tigers fans have had not have not had a lot to be excited about recently and this team has kind of come out of nowhere. They were building something but this is like a little early.

Awesome win. Hopefully they can beat the Astros. No one's rooting for the Astros. Yeah, so I have no idea how the Tigers did this, this season. They're the youngest team in baseball, I think by a pretty significant margin. So they were not penciled into this spot at all. I think what happened was they stopped playing Javier Baez,

and Javi got hip surgery and Javi in his contract that might be, it's probably the worst contract in baseball right now. So he's out for the rest of the season and then they started winning games and their young guys stepped up and into me, if you were to make one argument for another team of destiny, it would be the Tigers. Yeah. Yeah. The, uh, I know how they did it.

My guy Scott Harris is the GM in baseball. I think he's president of baseball ops. They're fucking super smart dude. He was one, I don't know if you remember the story, he was kind of Theo's whipping boy for a while in Chicago where there was a story that came out when the Cubs made their run that they would make him eat a loaf of bread every time they needed a rally in the in Jed's suite.

But then he also I wrote a blog about him when he got he was like 26 years old and he got promoted to like VP like like Vice President GM or assistant GM or something. And I wrote a whole blog being like this guy's a fucking overachieving piece of shit. Like you can't be 26 and be the assistant GM. And then I happened, I had like a mutual friend and I ended up meeting him like a few months later. He's like, Hey, I read that blog. And it was the first time I was like, Oh yeah, I guess, I guess things I do say probably

people hear these. So great dude though. I became friends with him. He's, he's a genius and he's got the tigers in the right direction. I love the idea that the cubs had like that kid at the lunch table. This guy will eat anything and I got to find it. It's like Billy bats and uh, and Joe Pesci, right? Yeah. It's like, I don't know if you know, but I don't try and choose no more. I think maybe you didn't find out. I think it was John Greenberger wrote the story, but it was, uh, it was a

great story where, yeah, he basically like like they just handed him bread every time and they were like, hey, here you go. We need some runs. So go start eating some bread. But yeah, the Tigers are a great story. The Royals are great story. The Orioles are, I'm starting to feel bad for Orioles fans. That's nine straight playoff losses they've had nine straight and I I looked it up so I was I was trying to figure out if it was exactly nine straight and I you know, you know every now and then like for college football to do like winspedia and you can see like the history of a rivalry So I searched like Orioles playoff history and it got me to a website that's called champ or chump and it grades each franchise major sports franchise and the fan experience for the last 10 years and the Orioles fans they get a D plus you get a D plus if you were a fan of

the Orioles for the last 10 years. Yeah I mean there's always that Zach Britton game where he was nowhere to be found. Was that the start of their losing streak or was that that might have been the start of it. Well, they got swept by the Royals in 2014 and then they went and they lost a one game when it was still a one game wild card to the Rangers. They got swept last year or sorry to the Blue Jays. They got swept last year and they've lost this year.

So yeah, that's that's got swept last year and they've lost this year. So yeah, that's that's uh, that's nine straight and they just, I feel like I don't know. I mean, I like the Orioles. I like those guys are awesome on the team. The young guys on that team, they came through the office, uh, earlier in the season. Orioles fans can tell me I'm way off. It feels like the Orioles, whatever they're hitting coach, they need a new hitting coach because it feels like every time they're in a big moment, they're all just swinging for the fences and hoping they hit a home run. And you said it a million times, PFT small ball wins, small ball,

Mike socialism. Yeah. In fact, it's great. Pete Rose would be disgusted by the Baltimore Orioles. Swing down at the ball, line drives, ground balls. Those can be hits. Pop flies can't. Yeah. So, um, and then what was the ball, line drives, ground balls. Those can be hits. Pop flies can't. Yeah. So and then what was the other, oh, the Padres in the, it was the Padres in the Braves who the Braves, I mean, they had to fly all the way across the country.

And then they pitched, Hank, what were you saying? They pitched like nobody? Yeah, they started the broadcast being like, this guy hasn't pitched in 157 days. He's 21 years old He was in college not too long ago You could tell he was nervous and then I think his fifth pitch was like hit into the upper deck Yeah, Tatis Tatis went yard today and the moonshot that he had I know I just got done talked about how you shouldn't swing up

at balls which Statistically probably isn't true given the way the baseball has gone recently. But Tatis hit a ball. I looked it up. It was 39 degree launch angle, a moonshot. That's the biggest launch angle to be a home run in the history of Major League Baseball since it had been keeping track. So that thing went like straight up. It was on and Tatis is a fucking monster to watch. That dude is awesome. He is. He is. And obviously it was because of the you know They played yesterday trying to get in but it started it started before that going

Yeah, I was supposed to be Chris sale, but he's not available So instead they have this 21 year old kid that like hasn't pitched in the major leagues, dude What happened with Chris sale? he just he had like back spasms or something or his Something was fucked up where he just it happened at noon yesterday because he was supposed to pitch the second game and a must win. And now all of a sudden he's just not even pitching. It's nuts. Yeah. The Braves just get these types of injuries. I don't know. Um, by the way, I found the, the, uh, the, uh, anecdote it's actually from

right Thompson, our good friend. This is from an article in 2016. So this is Scott Harris, uh, who is basically the mastermind in, in running the Detroit Tigers who are great story in these playoffs. So it says right. Thompson wrote a Cubs winning streak grows to 11 games halfway through the home series against the Cardinals in August on a Saturday. Epstein and baseball ops guys gathering sweet 33 to watch the team try to win a third straight from St. Louis Louis The world up there has its own set of rules and superstitions and central to the canon is this If the team needs offense theo makes scott harris the director of baseball operations Take out a loaf of plain bread and start eating when harris eats carbs the cubs score You eat like this. This is you take this this bread. Boy, come over here. Boy.

Yeah. That's that guy. That guy. I trust in Theo too. Maybe Theo was right to do this. Maybe Theo knows something about developing talent. That guy, Scott Harris is, is head of everything in the tigers. I hope he's still eating the bread for the tigers. Cause they're going to need some runs. Uh, but yeah, it's cool baseball story. He's a great dude. He's a great dude. So I'm happy for tiger's fans. Also, this is the second time in 2024 when Michigan sports fans have had an incredible weekend. Michigan sports are on top of like great days in a row back. It was, uh, was it the lions wildcard victory and Michigan national championship like Yeah. Back to back days. And now you've got the lions dominating Monday night football, which we'll talk about in a second.

And then the tigers winning a playoff game. Good for you, Michigan. Yeah. Michigan's on top. Michigan's on top. And, uh, the Royals are also a great story. I just like teams that haven't been in in a while. It's always great to get new, the new faces into the playoffs.

And the Royals are one of those where they've had an unbelievable Season they got some fucking studs Playoff baseball is the best though It's like these first days when it's just wall-to-wall baseball and every moment feels so intense I just I you love it So is it bad for the teams that get the buys that they have to just sit around and get out of rhythm? Because back in the day, you know what they to do. They used to schedule like meaningless games against exhibition teams. They would have snow and they play each other. Yeah. They play each

other. They would, they play themselves like Garrett Cole. There was a clip of Garrett Cole, uh, uh, someone taking them yard at Yankee stadium today. Uh, but PFT, I don't want to say you're sounding like a Dodgers fan, but you're sounding like a Dodgers fan right now. Cause that's one oh one. I'm in, I'm in favor of postseason chaos. I'm in favor of a team winning like 130 games and then getting swept in a series. Yeah. That's Dodgers one on one being like, well, it's actually a detriment that we don't get to play this first, these first three days. And that's why we lose and it's not fair and they should just give they should basically do it like the epil whoever wins the most games gets to win the world series

they don't play playoffs they should just do it based on whichever players had the highest war during the last season wins over play we'll do it all based on math yeah yeah um so max just going back you're you're you're done you're're not even going to watch. Now, his expectations are very low. That's so sad. The bank, dude. The bank. I know. I know. The game won game one on an NFL Sunday. No game two. Game two is on NFL Sunday. Game one. Game one.

Game one Saturdays must. I'll tell you this right now. Game one is must win. Look at our. He's all grown up. He's all grown up at the bank Saturday with Wheeler pitching. You may as well not watch the rest of this. This is a seminal moment in part of my take history because Max, it feels like he's finally been beaten down by us and this show that he's going game one must win. And I have to agree. You have to win. You can't lose that game. I'm not like I'm just assuming that the Mets win tomorrow and it doesn't even I'm just assuming Nets like if it's a Mets game one must win if it's a brewer brewery, I don't, I don't like this, Max. I'm telling you like the he's learned too much. Yeah. We've, we've beaten him down too much. He's,

he's already saying must win on a game one. We usually don't break out the must win thing till like it's one one. It's a game three or something. And then we get, you know, a whole pickle, but you just, you're throwing up the white flag right now. Every game's a must win. It's all the weddings he's been going to. He's got too much perspective on life now. So max, let me ask you a question. If you lose game one, it's over, right?

You don't even play game two. No, you'd obviously play game two. Oh, so then it's not a must win. So you'd still have series left. I mean, I'm just saying for like vibes, if we lose game one, then like my expectations are low right now. If we lose game two, it'll just be like, ah, whatever this for fun. But you're saying that like there will be a game too, right? You said so I assume that there would just never be a game after that because you wouldn't do a must win if there's, if

there's still four games in the series left. No, you guys are trying, I don't know what you guys are trying to paint this picture you're trying to paint right now, but I'm going to say that game owns must win. Watch it. It sounds like, here's the thing though, but it sounds like Max doesn't trust in his guys. Yeah. One thing about Max, that's because they just keep letting me down every time you don't love your guys anymore. You don't love your guys.

Max you just put a little uno reverse on you there. I don't know if you, you realize that, um, but this is going to be fun. This is October. This is my favorite thing. Uh, should we talk? You know what? Dikembe Mutombo I feel like needs to, deserves a rest in peace before Pete Rose. Cause Dikembe Mutombo was an all time guy, basketball player, recurring guest was like a thrill. I remember when we had Dikembe on, he w it was one of those ones where it was like, this is an all time thrill.

And he did not disappoint. He was exactly as I expected and just as funny and gregarious as I expected. And that was really sad to see that he passed away on Monday. The voice was incredible when we got to talk to him. I mean, you will never forget that. I saw a clip of when he was on Conan O'Brien show and Conan made him suck a helium balloon and start talking. It was great. Yeah. The Kimbe great person, intimidating ass basketball player. Uh, just go watch highlights, compilations of the Kimbe, just blocking shots, wagging his finger. That's what started the whole taunting thing. That's,

that's the first thing I can remember where ref stepped in and had to be like, no, it's too emasculating to do this to your opponent. He would swap their shot and then he would wag his finger in their face and they told him, okay, you're allowed to wag your finger, but you can't wag it at them. You can just like hold it up in the air and wag it. Yeah. And, uh, and then it's all gone to shit since then. But yeah, to give me my tumbo, awesome defensive player. I'll always remember that, that nugget series where he was crying, holding the ball afterwards,

behind his head on the ground. It was so good. Um, all time, all time guy. Yeah. Uh, and then Pete Rose also passed away, uh, way better baseball player than human. But Pete Rose, I mean he, listen, I'm a believer that he should be in the hall of fame because I think the hall of fame should have everyone in it. Uh, any, any incredible player you put, you tell the whole story, tell the whole story of baseball, steroids guys, Pete Rose, everything. He should have been in the hall of fame. I feel like they might put them in, uh, after he passed, which

would be a little bit of a shame in my eyes, but he said he didn't want to go in after, after he died. He doesn't have a choice a choice. Celebration is for your family and your friends and you want to be there to witness all of it. I understand that perspective. But also get a suspension and a lifetime suspension. The lifetime is over. It's over. It's over. But yeah, he rose. I mean, one of the best baseball players of all time. I mean, what, 4000 something hits and, uh, 256 hits.

Here's a crazy stat. I read this tonight. Um, he had 3,125 singles. That's more than Babe Ruth had hits. He had more singles than Babe Ruth had hits over his career, which is crazy. And also just looking up crazy stats, I just searched for some Pete Rose stats. And that led me to a Barry Bond stat that I feel like we should just throw in here because it's a fun fact.

Barry Bonds, did you know he has more intentional walks than the entire Tampa Bay Rays organization in their history? That's amazing. I love that stat. And this is the last time we can say that because he's got, I think, three more intentional walks than the Rays do. So next season that stats not going to be around anymore. Yeah, the Pete Rose. He was we always try. We tried to get him on a few times. I think he wanted money, which I understand that was the Pete Rose game. Also Hall of Fame gambler. I think he has to be at that. He should be in the Hall of Fame easily the story goes obviously in 2002, I believe he had it like a

Private under the radar meeting with Bud Selig Basically being like how can I get my lifetime band taken away? How can I get in the Hall of Fame and Bud Selig was like you have to apologize for it You have to completely disassociate from gambling. You have to not do any of that stuff You have to show true remorse and apparently the story goes that Pete Rose took the meeting agreed to all these things and literally just Walked right into a casino. Yeah, it was just like that's it Yeah, 100 gambler Pete Rose. He was an all-time example of how not to apologize for stuff Yeah, so he he probably would be in the Hall of Fame if he had admitted when he was caught

Yeah, I bet on games and I bet on games that I was I was managing and that's just what happened So instead of doing that he said I never bet on baseball I think he said never bet on sports first and they said never bet on baseball afterwards. Then said, I never bet on baseball. I think he said never bet on sports first. And they said never bet on baseball afterwards. Then it was, I never bet on game. I never bet on baseball games that I was managing. And then he was like, well, I never bet on games that I was managing and bet on us to lose.

I always bet on us to win. So he did bet on games that they manage. There was one more step he could have gone, which is, yes, I did bet on baseball games that I managed and I bet on us to lose, but I lost those bets. Yeah. If you're going that far, that was like the last thing that he, that he didn't, uh, ever get around to saying, but he had a hard time admitting, uh, his problems.

Yeah. And it is like, I know people will, some people will be like, well, if you bet on them to win, what's the problem? I always, I kind of understand it, but I'm also like, if you're, if you're betting a ton of money on a game and you're the manager of the game, you probably going to manage it a lot differently than it's like game, you know, 85 in, in the middle of the summer, you're probably like, if you're like, Hey, I have a, this is the biggest bet I've made all season. You're going to use your bullpen different. Everything's going to be different. So, um, yeah, you probably can't bet on games, even if you're betting

on your team to win. Definitely changes things. You're probably going to make it more likely that your team loses the next game. And then if you bet on your team to win, you empty out your bullpen and you win that bet. Then as a guy that loves having a little action on the game, you know that you're not going to have a great bullpen the next day. You might be more inclined to bet on your team to lose the next day. Yeah. Um, last thing before we kick it to ourselves, do you guys want me to this champs or chumps a website? Do you guys want me to look up anything? Uh, like for fan sadness?

Yeah. The say the grades, every fan's experience in the last 10 years. The Bears got an F minus. That's pretty bad. I didn't know they gave F minuses. I'll look up the commanders. Hold on. Let's see. Commanders got an F. Okay.

They got an F. Oh fuck you Hank. It's probably like a B plus. No, it's last ten years dude. It's gonna be an A It's a plus if you want it if you've won a title in the last ten years you get an A at bare minimum one What? Yeah, I guess yeah. Oh you did that on purpose like the Eagles a Yeah, if you go to a Super Bowl or win a Super Bowl title, what was the team? Who wanted, you wanted Wizards? 49ers is an A?

Yeah, yeah, give me Wizards. Wizards would be great. Like a 49ers fan is not an A. It's a B. Yeah. That's correct. I think that's actually a very fair grade. So it almost hurts that much more.

Yeah, right. A B is like not a grade. A B is like I was capable of getting an A but I just don't have one. What about Falcons? That's that's real test too, because you got to a Super Bowl. Wizards is they are a D plus. That's very generous. It's a fun site. Falcons, Falcons, Falcons. I don't know exactly the what's what's behind the algorithm here. See for the Falcons. So yeah, Falcons. I don't know exactly the, uh, what's, what's behind the algorithm here. See for the Falcons. So yeah, it's a 10 year, it's a 10 year, uh, sample size is like shows winning percentage.

They made the playoffs twice. They've won three playoff games, zero championships, Panthers, Panthers, Panthers might, if this counts their Superbowl year, it might not be as bad as you think. See? Yeah. It's crazy. Yeah. And it counts their Super Bowl year or, you know, going to the Super Bowl. 15 and one fun site. I don't know. I just found it randomly.

Champer Trump dot U.S. Probably going to get a virus or something on my phone. What about the Raiders? Good question, Hank. The Las Vegas Raiders. Get a F. What about the chiefs? Chiefs.

It's got to be an A plus. A plus. What about the Broncos? Broncos. B plus, because it includes their their their Super Bowl in 2015. All right. Yeah, that's good Yeah, you feel good you satisfied? Yeah, okay. I yeah, I mean it's cool site. Give me cowboys You do this all day D plus see I like this website is a good website. That's a good great

I think this website is fair. Yeah, yeah the Los Angeles Rams the Los Angeles Rams that's gonna be at least an a Super Bowl a you're asking all the worst questions. Hey, you're asking all the ones that won a Super Bowl I'm just curious Packers or a B plus that feels fair Yeah Okay. Well, let's kick it to ourselves. And then we got Booger McFarland. Yeah, let's get back in the studio. Okay. Before we get to some football, college and NFL, we're brought to you by our friends

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He's always been perfect. He's always been perfect, but he was extra perfect. He not only went perfect passing but he caught which amon Ross st. Brown needs more credit That was maybe the like most perfect wide receiver pass I've ever seen dropped it in a bucket He said that they've called that play a few times and they've always checked out of it So this is the first time he got to actually execute on it Yeah, and Ben Johnson was in his bag in his bag on that pass play though where Jared caught it Jared explosive off the line.

Yeah. First, elite first like three steps off the line. Ran just slow enough to make the defense think he wasn't going on around. It looked like he was just kind of like going over the sideline. Yeah. And so he was just open enough to catch it. And then he uncorked some dimes to hit Jameis and downfield. Amon Ross St. Brown Brown one of the coolest catches

I've seen where it's just his body goes limp in midair. Yeah, and then just two feet come down perfectly body control Yeah, and there was I also saw a play that someone did a film review where he had I think it was I'm on raw might Have been Laporta. No, I think was I'm on raw Where he goes he he runs his route through the sea gap. So it's basically they block like it's a running play Yeah, he runs and then does it and does a curl and hits him perfectly. It was Ben Johnson is he's a genius He is a genius. I also think that the Seahawks are not bad. I think agreed on the contrary I think the Seahawks are good. I was watching the most first downs in NFL history in a loss last Yeah, I was watching that game. They had a bunch of defensive starters out

It was very clear that they couldn't stop anything the Lions were throwing at them. But I was watching that game being like Gino looks like totally in control. And it's crazy how much better he looks than the Gino we've we've known. This is this is the the year of reclaimed quarterbacks, by the way, credit to us. I don't know if you saw, but means all that posted a quote card from December 7th 2022 never so almost two years ago Pft said I I still believe in Baker Mayfield This is when they're both on the Panthers and I said I'll do you one worse

I still believe in Sam Darnold so we know ball ball. We know ball on this podcast December 7th in the United States I want you to think of one thing and one thing only that's part of my take. Yes. But yeah, we came to the same conclusion. The Seahawks, I did not go away from that game being like, man, the Seahawks stink. It was the Seahawks need to get healthy on defense because their offense is, it almost was like a mirror image with the amount of dudes that you can count on the field Mm-hmm, like lock it DK

Jackson Smith You know Charbonne a today's soul Kenneth Walker. Yeah, hey soul Bobo Bobo was great. Bobo was great. Bobo was really and the Lions have just Jameer Gibbs David Montgomery I'm on rod Jameson Williams lapa, like just dudes all across the field. Both those offenses were so much fun to watch and that was a, it was a perfect Monday night game. Yeah, it was dudes as far as the eye can see. That was the only Monday night football game last night.

Yeah. Which was wonderful. So wait, before we get to the other one, there's a very important question I have to ask you about the Detroit Lions. Yes. Because this is the national conversation that's happening today about them. Okay. You as a father. Yes, would you let the Detroit Lions take your family to Disneyland?

No, because I'm not gonna take any of my kids to Disney World or Disneyland Disneyland But is that the one in California Disneyland is in California. So then yes, you would maybe cuz free and they I don't have you sure Wait, but they the Lions take them I'm gonna say no okay well you and Colin Coward agree okay coward was saying that the Lions are a family member that they were all over the map for a while and then they got their act together but he doesn't trust him enough to let the Lions go to Disney lands to Disneyland on a trip, okay? I think I would be fun. Yeah, I think it'd be a great time with Dan Campbell. Oh, yes

Yeah, you'd be at the front of every line. You'd probably win all the carny game Yeah, you dominating that I think though. I think the Lions might be one of the first teams I would allow I'm only saying it just because I like I said I wouldn't I'm Universal Studios, maybe my kids can go to but I didn't go to Disney World, so I'm not going. So watch your day? Yeah, I'm not going. I'm not taking them. Yeah, it's just-

I guess if the Lions take them, it's not me. I think the Lions would be at least top three teams that I would allow. Would you let the Lions watch your kids for an extended weekend? To find extended? You leave Friday morning, don't get back till they're asleep. So you really see your kids again Monday night So three full bedtimes are they at Dan Campbell's house? No and they want to cut docks. Okay, not at that one No, yeah. Yeah, I'd let the Lions hang out my kids. Okay, would you?

Hmm, would you let the Lions fuck your girl? That's that's the real question. We should be at yeah coward kind of missed the missed it the mark there Would you let the Lions fuck your girl on Instagram live? If this was no jumper max is saying thumbs down Pug Pug is in studio means out for a couple days pug would you? Yes, you would oh, I would never let a team fuck my girl I mean either that's just how that's how I operate kind of old-school I don't know be kind of cool. You probably get a game ball or something now jaden Daniels on the other hand

Yeah Yeah, ah The other Monday football game I like I think they should always have two Monday night football games with that type of disparity Because it was it made the Lions Seahawks game even more enjoyable Well, I think in this situation it was perfect, but I don't like it I usually don't like it, but if you're going to do it have one game, that's the one imminently forgettable Yeah, and then that way when it's about time for the other game to kick off. You're like fuck. Yeah, I get to watch football now All right. I'm gonna look right now flex scheduling

week five What would you this would be not so bad? We could run it back Yeah dolphins Patriots Kick off first on Monday night football and then the Bills Texans play right after be great be great the Dolphins are a tough tough Tough watch like and the Titans are a tough watch but the Titans compared

especially with Mason Rudolph the Mason Rudolph like makes the Titans at least football adjacent the Dolphins are whoo yeah makes no sense what do you mean it does because Huntley doesn't know that offense at all is Chua the most underrated quarterback in the NFL I think they should pay him more seriously if he's a Shanahan disciple It's like Shanahan is the king of just putting it but not a quarterback is kind of Kind of like he has all the weapons now My members much Mike Shanahan on the Shana cam said Brock Purdy was the guy right away. That's true I did with Jimmy G

True. Yeah. Yeah Purdy makes a big difference there, too But I also drafted Trey Lance also drafted Trey Lance But yeah, the Dolphins are a mess is Mike McDaniel coaching for his job. I don't know. Is he hot seat? I mean he's just a coach. He's in the shade in Miami. Yeah, he looked bewildered he looked like it was he was watching something that he just had no answers to. And shout out all the people who have fantasy players on the Dolphins. That's that's brutal. Yeah, Tyree Kill is about to do something weird in the next coming weeks, I'm sure. It's just a tough tough watch. And I don't I know that losing your quarterback should obviously if

you go to your backup quarterback, you're probably already already fucked but I didn't think the Dolphins would be this fucked. Like I didn't think that their offense would look this bad. Maybe that's just naive of me but it's a disaster. I think if you're Mike McDaniel or you're running an offshoot of the Shanahan offense you have to have a guy that's your backup that's been with you for a while. Yeah. Like importing a dude which they kind of had. They kind of had that.

Why was it? Why is it Ryan Tannehill out there? Yeah, I think with Huntley especially, he is just learning what's going on there and having to do all the motions and stuff. They do a lot of cute stuff in Miami. You have to be very familiar with the cute stuff in order to pull it off.

Trade for Jameis. Imagine Jameis in those teals. What about about Brett Favre Brett Favre would be good Tebow he could do it yeah sign Tebow Kaepernick Johnny Manziel and RG3 and just see who's the best for it and just let us watch those guys play yeah let us watch the open competition yep the Titans are good win will love us that was a tough clip where he was like I didn't see the guy Yeah, he went all he winced on the on the sidelines. Well, the wince was his shoulder. Mm-hmm But yeah, that was that was tough for our boy

Will so I don't know I don't know what the future is the Titans like they're not a bad team They just like they could win Here's the question for the Titans and I think they're gonna have to wrestle with this because I think if you play Mason Rudolph We'll have us obviously is he's not there yet. He's not even close to there yet. It's it's a work in progress do you stick with will Levis work in progress hope that he gets better and If he doesn't you're gonna be drafting top five That's what they're saying or do you go with Mason Rudolph and Mason Rudolph? I think probably wins you seven games That's like obviously just won you once I'm saying six more. Yeah, I'm not saying they're gonna get to you know, eight nine

He's not he's not gonna be lighting up the world But he's his competency has a floor to it that probably gets them more to like the 10th 15th draft pick Yeah, I I think Callahan said after the game will love us is our quarterback, which is the second time he said that this year, which is not good that he's had to say it twice. I think you do I think that's the right move though he said he said wills are quarterback barring injury. So if he's healthy, he's going to play I think it's the right move to because what if what if he figures out what if he what if he turns it on the second half of the season and where things end up okay for the Titans, then you feel good about going to next year with Will and you're probably drafting in the middle of the first round. And that's good. But then if it doesn't go well, guess what? You're going to need a quarter. Yeah. If it doesn't go well, you're wanting a quarterback anyway. And that's where you want to be in the top five. So yeah, I think it's a no brainer that you got to stick with Will Levis. Not saying he's played to the point where he keeps

it, but I think that's just as an organization. That's organization that's the smarter move yeah also we had a moment in that game that left I think everybody confused by this ah yeah the onside punt that wasn't in the landing zone and then that resulted in effectively a 40 yard penalty yeah shout out everyone who had the under I feel for you life too short but that was crazy it was a it ended up being 40 yards, right? They got 43 yards. So they punted from the 20. I believe so they punted they did a safety kick, which you can punt if you want to. But they also declared it to be onside and they saw it further than the landing. So

yeah, so the strategy on that is to kick it really high in the air, and then hope that the other team doesn't call for a fair catch, which is what happened. They didn't call for a fair catch. So the ball lands, the Dolphins recover, and then they throw all the flags. The announcers had no idea what was going on. The ref had no idea. They had to figure this out.

The ref mumbled through it. Also that ref that did not call the touchdown for Amon Ross St. Brown. I think he just turned into a fan. There was a ref behind him who called it, but yeah, for a catch like that, you need both hands up. I was a ref behind him who called it. But yeah, like For a catch like that, you need both hands I need to see an emphatic touchdown like going back to the 80s for some reason. I want to say like mid 90s refs stopped doing like goofy over-the-top

Emphatic touchdown celebrations and penalty calls they used to go out there and just like lean back a little bit slouch their shoulders and just Like throw yeah, like they were like they were speaking in tongues the they missed a great opportunity there because the best touchdown Ref moment is when they confer and they talk for like two seconds and they both simultaneously do it. That's the best That's a good that's a great. They stole that from us. Never forget what they took from you Also, we should have mentioned Kenneth Walker with I mean the greatest break broken tackle of all time I don't I don't know how his neck is still on yeah he got double flipped they got they had a wrestling mat a full wrestling match broke out between was it Anzaloni I think it was and Kenneth Walker and Kenneth Walker won it looked like a

Steven Seagal movie it was doing a keto on slow-mo yeah that was awesome and then Montgomery had that sick catch-and and run at the end of the game where he just bounced off three dudes. Yeah, that was a great game. That was a great game of football and the Titans Dolphins. So going back real quick, Mike, you know, coach over his job. I think he might be because this is he might lose the locker room. We knew that was a possibility to keep eyes on the locker room at all times. He's got to air tag that locker room. We knew that was a possibility. He needs to keep eyes on the locker room at all times. He's got to air tag that locker room. Yeah, I don't want him to lose the locker room.

I don't want him to lose his job. I think the league is more fun with Mike Pantano as a coach. I still think he's a very good coach, but I think when you're the happy-go-lucky guy and shit goes bad, it gets, it could get ugly. It could turn on you fast. There's a statement win against the Patriots. Oh, yeah, that's gonna be. Wait, what's the checkout draft? Let's see the let's see what's the over under where they plan. Yikes. That's

a bad game, Hank. Oh, whose lines anyway,'s lines anyway on DraftKings Games in New England, okay. I think it's Patriots minus one Over under that's the key 30 37 6 and 35 and a half You were right about the spread you were right about the over on 35 and a half. Yeah, we know ball Wow we do No ball that's gross. That's a gross game. I think I might have to take the over on that I think I might just have to figure out how to bet that game and just be like gross So yeah, as I say I'm just like with McDaniel

It's it's not it looks way worse to when you're losing the locker room and the cute plays don't work correct You look more incompetent than you really are. Yes. I am I'm nervous about the locker room and the cute plays don't work. Correct. You look more competent than you really are. Yes, I'm nervous about the locker room for McDaniel. It's a fair criticism. By the way, people were fairly, were like, hey, we didn't get any Sunday Night Football talk, the Ravens are a wagon. When the Ravens run the ball like that,

they're gonna be a monster of a team. And that's a problem with the Bills too, is their defense, not bad, but their defense against the run very bad? Yeah. So Ravens, like I just, we don't usually talk at length about Sunday Night Football, but I think the Ravens are like, that's an 0-2. The team that started 0-2 that I never thought was going to be in trouble. Obviously the Raiders loss was a weird loss, but we said it I think at the time that they were

0 and 2 and they outgained their opponents by like a hundred plus yards both games. That one was always going to turn back for the Ravens are not an 0 and 2 team. They're a really good team. That's why they weren't a pinky team. Yeah. Because it couldn't do it. It has to be a team that you don't think has a chance. I believe in the Ravens potentially winning a Super Bowl this year. I actually think they absolutely could. Yeah, and Lamar, so we joked about Lamar losing all that weight because he was a fat ass. He was super fat. Well, when he saw, I think it was when Trump got indicted or when he turned himself in

and Trump's height and weight was perfectly matched to Lamar Jackson's. I thought it was Derek Henry. No, it was Lamar. Okay. It was Lamar. I think it was 6'3 and 215. And Lamar saw that that he was like fuck I gotta lose some weight I gotta get in shape and so he lost weight I I didn't think there was anything wrong with him but just by watching the games I feel like Lamar Lamar both okay I think they're both healthy as oxes yeah Lamar is faster

than he was I think he's faster than he was last year. I'd agree. He was like very shifty last year. He was doing a lot of those start stop things. Super elusive. But this year I feel like he's he's got the jets again. Yeah, I do too. And they have so many weapons. They have dudes except for Justin Tucker who's washed. Yeah, very washed. Beyond why I'd be concerned. Um, should we talk a little college ball? Let's talk a little college. We're gonna talk some more college ball with booger in a minute. But let's talk a little college ball. Let's talk a little college ball. We're gonna talk some more college ball with Booger in a minute. But let's talk some college ball. We have to start, the number one story is obviously that Georgia Bama game was fucking incredible.

A big fuck you to everyone who said that college football regular season doesn't matter anymore and you won't get big games because that was that scene in Tuscaloosa on Saturday night. Oh, the playoff all this. You can't replicate that. Yeah. And you know what I loved about that game? I love the fact that we got the viral moments, the crowd shots of the sad fans, but we got them on both sides. Yeah. And you never see that in a game. Oh, the, the, the video that's going around of Georgia's sideline going nuts after they scored to go ahead with like two and a half minutes left and

Then Ryan Williams scoring and Ryan Williams. I don't understand His body his body control is ball skills. He looked like he was in the matrix. Yeah, I Like the back to the back you're back to the defender with the ball You should never do that like he was he stood there making a low post move and then still it worked he did he did like a spin move with part of his body in the air he didn't make and then the rest of his body on the ground he looked like a cat yeah you drop a cat from oh I'm not even in the air I'm not even talking about that one I'm

talking about the earlier one where he did he basically did the Hakeem dream shake. Yeah. Yeah So it's like what are you doing, dude? This is how you get killed on an SEC field and that goes for Jalen Milro too Just running sideways on an SEC field. Yeah, but that that last catch that he had was one of the most athletic thing Incredible seen my entire life. He's 17 people forget that he's 17 17 17 and after the game He changed his profile picture to a picture of Mike Vic holding a dog Oh, that's because they just beat the dogs. They did just beat the dogs Also, he had the eye black kill everybody people were getting upset about that the program. It's the program

It's the program. So just shut the hell up. It's the program It also just an awesome thing to have on your eye black. Yeah, if you actually got upset about that Memes yourself. Yeah memes yourself memes yourself. Yeah, memes yourself. Memes yourself. Did you guys see the... Max, I just sent it to you. I'm sending you two clips. I should have sent it to you before.

Bad job by me. The Japanese announcer is calling that final... No, I didn't see that. It's awesome. They just... Everything's better when the Japanese announcers are going nuts. That reminds me, I actually did... I watched with a sound on for part of the Dolphins Titans game as the other game was

On but my hack to that if you're watching bad football watch it on ESPN deportes Oh Because it had a little spice to it and and when the announcers are like going a mile a minute speaking in Spanish and then stop To overpronunciate storm duck. Yeah, and go back. It's electric. It's a TV. His name's not spelled like that weirdo. We're still oh, what are you doing? These spell Ryan Williams are why yeah, yeah, he did Max just did it got the job done. Okay. All right play it I don't know if someone just dubbed this over for a different call, which could have very well I could have gotten duped. I don't care. Yeah, I don't care either.

I don't care. I want to listen to more American sports highlights in other languages. Yes. Yes. So that game was incredible. I do think and, and Booger, well, I'll save it for Booger cause we, we have a discussion about just Kirby smart have a Alabama problem. I, they're one in six against Alabama under Kirby smart. Kailin DeBoer needs a ton of credit because his teams, something about

Kailin DeBoer, like you've seen it in these big games, they're always ready to go and they jumped on them. Now they also give up leads, but they jumped on them so fast. It was awesome. Awesome. Awesome. Awesome game. And now Georgia, they got to win. They have Ole Miss, Tennessee and Texas. You got to probably go two and one in that. Yeah. In a weird way. I don't think I'm any more confident or less confident in either Alabama or Georgia after this game. Because it was two halves. Alabama's first half, best team in the country.

Georgia's second half, best team in the country. Right. Right. Like Georgia coming back gets credit because you thought they were just dead. But the margin for error now for Georgia is a lot smaller. Yeah, I have a question for you, Big Cat. Was Nick Saban holding Alabama back? He might have been. Was Nick Saban the problem? He might have been. Are they better without Nick Saban? I'm addicted to Nick Saban

shots during the game where he just looks miserable and it's the greatest game we've ever seen and it's like everyone's losing their minds and he just looks disgusted because it's probably like you know the corner back was open his hips a little too quickly. It's just on the other side of the field not even the not even the side where the where the pass was completed. It's just bad football.

Yeah he just sees that and he goes yeah this is this is just not enjoyable to watch. What kind of game do you think would be enjoyable for Nick Saban to watch? Like a 14-14 game good tackling 3.3 yards of carry Not do anything crazy out there. Yeah Probably loves matching Yeah that that one you need to punt that Frank Beamer clip where it's a zero zero tie Virginia Tech wake for us at the end The game he's celebrating. Yeah, no Maxxon's too much for Maxxon would be too much for Saban because there's too many mistakes He probably wants to watch. Army Navy.

Army Navy would be, yeah, that's primo. I think Belichick might like that one a lot. I think Saban would love, what's that college in Ohio? Like real small one. That's John Carroll. Yeah. He would like watching a John Carroll Holy Cross game. Yeah.

That's football. By the way, Navy is really good. They're undefeated. Yeah. And they're, I think they play Ohio State in a couple weeks It should be fun because you never know never know also should we actually hire Connor Stallions because he did hit me up Yeah, like why not high school season not going well. No, he said when the high school season is over He's open to he's like I'll have a couple months I think we have to I think we got a higher and they just hire him as our like secret service for PMT. We got to hire him have him scope out new heights

figure out we can take that motherfucker out. Just check out see what see what like Subway's doing with their where their cheesesteak. Yeah. Go test a bunch of cheesesteaks, a bunch of coffees. I think we have to right? I would love that he shows up in the background on the McAfee show wearing those sunglasses He could sit he could sit like on the other side of where memes sits So we can barely see him, but he can chime in whenever he wants also people aren't gonna fuck with us If we get him no definitely they know better. He'll write a manifesto on you alright So I'll follow up we'll hire him if his cover letter to us is a manifest. Okay. I'll tell him that I'll tell him that

alright, so Now is the portion of the show that we hype up Travis Hunter to us is a manifesto. Okay I'll tell him that. I'll tell him that. All right so now is the portion of the show that we hype up Travis Hunter. We what is he Heisman now on DraftKings? He was down to plus 750 the other day. I don't know what he's at now. I forgot I got a 40. 40? That's nice. 40. I got a 20. He is the best football player in the country. So this was I want to play this clip real quick this was before the game against UCF where, uh, UCF was a 14 point favorite and urban. My basically said Travis Hunter isn't going to be able to handle the heat. Now, mind you, Travis Hunter plays at high altitude, but how stupid can you be urban? Where's he from? He's from Florida. I believe it might be from Georgia. Florida. Is he? Yeah. He's from Florida. I think urban

just couldn't, so that makes no sense. Urban double double no sense double no sense. How is he gonna be able to take losses? Probably not Well, he probably won't feel good after losses and have panic attacks. All right, so play this clip This is a hundred and thirty three plays of this Brandon. You had 21 catches in a game. You also play two ways I don't know if he's gonna be able to handle this heat here now. It's hot here I know he's from here. Yeah, but it's hot here your thoughts on the Holocaust. Why are we talking about? You'll get paid to do that listen coach take Travis Hunter take Colorado out of Florida, it's no problem We're talking about 20 something catches. I don't care about his production on the defensive side. No problem. Look at you Look at Mark Ingram up there. He's running through his suit

This is a real home field advantage when I played here I got two IVs before the game two IVs at halftime and two after the game This is real deal. And so it's really going to affect him today. Okay, so how much did it affect Travis Hunter? How about this? 128 snaps 9 catches 89 yards a touchdown and then an interception in a pass defense to tackles And he could have had more yards receiving to Dion took him out of the game. Wow. Did that really affect Travis Hunter? 128 snaps in the big bad Florida heat the dude is just different. He should be your Heisman. He's incredible. Also Brandon Marshall saying he got six IVs during a game is kind of wild.

Yeah, that's too many. I've, that's too many IVs. Yeah. He's currently third in Heisman betting at seven to one. Yeah. And this was a, this was a big win for Colorado because this was a game that everyone thought they would lose. They're now 4-1. I know they still have a tough Big 12 schedule. And again, we're not even talking about Deon or Shador. We're just a Travis Hunter podcast. That's it.

Travis Hunter deserves the respect. He might be the best college football player I've ever seen. Yeah. How about that? How about that? I'll take it one further. PFT, let's play a quick game. What dumb thing did Hugh Freeze say this week? He said, I don't think Freeze can handle the heat. Freeze can handle the heat. Yeah, I like that. I like that. He should actually do that because he can't. So Hugh

Freeze, who's won everywhere, first time he's having a little resistance, things are not going well. He's maybe the worst loser of all time. He said after his loss to Oklahoma, which they probably should have won that game, they were up, he said, I won't comment on what happened before I was here, the roster, what it was, everybody can make their own determination on that, on how many people left and the recruiting rankings and what was brought in, which is literally commenting on it. And then he said I think you all are aware of what we inherited. Our AD has done a marvelous job of explaining that. He did to me before I took the job with the previous recruiting classes not being what you need to compete at a high level

and 57 transfers out in my previous three years before my arrival and then said how saying how something really is he keeps getting blamed for throwing people under the bus. Yeah I don't know is he keeps getting blamed for throwing people under the bus Yeah, I don't know why he keeps getting blamed for that. This is like when doug peterson said The time for speeches are over. Yeah, no more rah rah and then proceed to give a speech I'm not going to talk about what happened before I got here But the recruits suck and the guys i'm coaching right now suck and i'm throwing my entire team under the bus because they suck It's not my fault I'm fucking you freeze. I don't I don't make excuses for things. I'm not

sitting here counting the number of transfers that we've had leave. We had 57 transfers out in the previous three years before my arrival. But that's not something I spend time considering. What a piece of shit. Yeah, you freeze. Listen, Hugh, if things aren't going for you, just start cheating. Yeah, start. Well, first before Yeah, you've done the first part. Blame everyone else. Yes, back to back weeks where yeah, you've done the first part blame everyone else Yeah, this back-to-back weeks where he remember he said that he nine times out of ten they beat Arkansas and then this week

He's like look. I'm not gonna talk about the situation here But the situation is terrible and everyone that they recruited before me sucks And now I'm have a job of coaching sucky players and oh yeah after this press conference I'm gonna go give a speech to these sucky players and tell him hey I need you to fucking die for me I have a question for you big guy yeah whose job is it to make players better at playing football they the previous go on to the ad no no okay all right coach that they had before you coach you could see I get confused usually the ad is the one who's making them better this is the year

where he has to take all the coaches that are all the players that were coached wrong and Undo all that bad coach. Yes, and then next year he actually gets to build him back up. You freeze. What an idiot Yeah, he's lost a lot of weight. Is he on Ozmpic? He must be I think he's thinned out a little bit Yeah, or it's just the losses. He's got the urbanish situation where losses just take so much out of him. They lose his weight You should watch that Aaron Hernandez show by the way Is it good? No, it's one of the worst shows I've ever seen but I can't stop watch I figured it would probably not be the best the guy they have playing urban Meyer is He's like a cartoon villain version of urban Meyer. Who's also kind of a cartoon villain. Okay, so it's excellent. Yeah

Other big one was Kentucky. Shout out big blue nation going to Ole Miss Beating Ole Miss after they wiped the floor with their non-conference schedule. Ole Miss back into the SEC. Like, this is what happens. Yeah, listen, Kentucky almost did this to Georgia. I don't think that they've got a bad, their offense is kind of weird. I'll tell them that. Their offense, not great. But Mark Stoops, great coach, and Ole Miss thought that maybe we're going to be ranked in the top five.

Doesn't look good for Lane Kiffin. Yeah. Doesn't not look good. But he is in that perfect spot where if he has two losses this year, that's great for Lane Kiffin. Yeah, well, that's probably a playoff berth. That's what he does. Lane Kiffin's going to get you some high-scoring games. games He's gonna have a quarterback that's in the Heisman discussion at least through

Halfway through the season and then he's not gonna win a championship. Yeah, and here's the other thing about link if and where he's in a really nice spot Yes, so they have LSU at LSU Oklahoma and Georgia both at home. So I mean, they have two losses, they probably will still be in the playoff because that would mean they beat at least one of those teams. Yeah, not the strongest of wins. But still, I think that a two loss SEC team would probably go to the playoff. But Lane Kiffin is in a good spot because no matter how the season goes, he's going to get a raise because Florida is open. Yeah. So it doesn't matter whether he stays or leaves, he's gonna get a raise because Florida is open. Yeah. So it doesn't matter

whether he stays or leaves. He's getting more money. No matter what. Yeah, that's a built in raise whenever a big school like that. Yeah, they want everyone in Florida wants them very bad. And yeah, that would that would be the race. Do you do you have? Did you have a feeling one way or the other about Miami's the end of Miami game, whether he caught it or not? I thought yes, I did. I had a couple of thoughts when I first watched it and I watched the replay. I thought touchdown. Then I thought, what are the refs thinking right now? And I don't think the refs wanted to give Virginia Tech that win and then have to leave the stadium in Miami. See, I watched it and I was like, I don't think this is a touchdown in any world. It's just the ball's moving guys are

out of bounds. I the one thing that I took away from it. We do we lean way too much on will you it's not enough to overturn it. Yeah, as if a bad call can't be overturned just because like, well, that was a call on the field. Yeah, I do think though, whatever they call it on the field was going to stay. Yes, I watched a replay. I was like, No, this was not a completion. Like it was a crazy play, but it was just not a completion. It was so close. I don't.

I watched it probably like six times. However many times I showed the replay live, I stared at the TV and I watched all of them and I wasn't sure. But I thought it was a catch. I thought like we're watching it right now. Also, it's just way more fun if it was a catch. I thought like we're watching it right now. Also it's just way more fun if it's a catch. That was part of it. It would have been the most Miami loss. And now we've got Miami at Cal game day going to Cal. Love it.

I saw somebody I forget who was I want to give him credit if I can track this down. Somebody said that they should sell t shirts like Catholics versus convicts. Yeah, but have it say woke first coke. Oh, I like that. I feel like that would be a really good one. That is a good one. Yeah, I don't think he had it long enough. It just always was moving. Who knows. But that was nice controversy on a Friday night. And then the other big 12 was wide open, which we expected, but it's more wide open than we even expected because Utah lost at home to Arizona, which camera rising just

fucking play football, please. Is there a possibility that the the group of five school doesn't get the 12 spot but gets the 11 spot? I don't know. I don't think so. Maybe taking Dukes. It's too early for that. But yeah, I'm definitely thinking UNLV Hajj comes.

Hajj was awesome. I think if it's an undefeated Dukes Undefeated UNLV it'll go to UNLV. I would agree with that because UNLV has played Probably will probably end up playing more big boys. I believe slightly bigger boys They're playing a little bit bigger of boys Sunbelt's boys are not as big this year. Well UNLV also went to Kansas when they were ranked and they beat Houston at Houston. So the boys they're playing are slightly larger. Yeah, we got- Or Kansas wasn't ranked, that was their bowl game. We thought UNC was going to be big boys. Yeah.

And UNC, well we did retire Mac Brown. Yeah, true. We made him quit. And UNLV still has Syracuse, a slightly bigger boy, and Oregon State, a slightly bigger boy. But if you want to talk about teams that are playing with a bunch of just little children out there, Liberty. If Liberty goes undefeated and then there's a one loss UNLV, I feel like you still got to put UNLV in. Yeah, I'd agree especially with their backup

This is like such a great story It would be I feel like college football would want it to be in like see NIL doesn't matter Yeah, or Boise State we should throw them in there too because they have maybe the best player action Jerry sorry one one of the best plays the second best player But he's not close enough to be considered for Heisman because only Travis Hunter should right? Yeah, Gent he's got a video game numbers He basically is playing when you play college football and you're like all I'm gonna do is just try to get my guy the Heisman Like go out at the one

On an interception so you can get him more touchdowns. He has through four get five games 82 has through four, five games, 82 carries 845 yards, 13 touchdowns. It's crazy. And he's he's broken 200 yards a couple of times. What was his high game there? Gene? Oh, he had a crazy one that was they look like Barry Sanders. Yeah, he's just it's any breaks. And it's just great because you like on a Saturday, you're watching all this football, it gets late in the late in the day, it's evening time. And then you just see a clip pop up and it's just gente doing like breaking like an 80 yard touchdown.

I've got some advice for our listeners, and you can take it or leave it. But this weekend in college football might be the perfect weekend to be available to do any chores. You know, Apple picking weekend, go apple picking. Yeah, go go to the mall run some errands. Apple picking, I feel like this is the Go to the mall, run some errands. Apple picking. I feel like this is the weekend to do it because you're going to want to build up all that stock for October 12th. Yeah. Playoff baseball though. Playoff baseball. That's true. That's a good point Max. Playoff baseball. Good point. But this weekend is one, it's like the meme,

she's like, I think he's probably just thinking about college football. And the guy's like, no, I'm thinking about how to make her think I don't care about college football this weekend. Yeah, there's no college football on the start Yeah, start planning that shit out right now. Yeah Okay, should we do hot sea cool throne and then we can get to Our great interview with booger. We're gonna talk a little more college football with booger and some NFL as well Hot sea cool thrown brought to you by our friends at Coors. Half the fun of watching college football is predicting which rivals win every week. Coors Light teamed up with Draft Kings for the free to play college

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restrictions apply Voidwear prohibited C terms at draft kings comm slash course light pick them celebrate responsibility course room company golden, Colorado Henry my hot seat is anyone who drafted Christian McCaffrey and fantasy so He has double Achilles tendonitis is he gonna retire What do you think Hank? I think he is. You, you, you. No, Hank's been saying no. I saw a clip on Bussin of Whitney talking about someone.

And then he talked about it on our podcast. The walls at Barstool Sports have been saying if you walk down the hallway, there's like one specific spot. It's right after Max's desk, right before you get to Mr. Pair, where there's a guy who's got sunglasses on because he was just probably golfing. And he's like, I'm here on Christian McCaffrey might retire. So that's a wall. The wall is talking.

Double Achilles tendonitis is not good. And then having one that's worse than the other, that's doubly. Oh, is that true? That's what I think Schefter reported. You mean the Ultimate Insider? Yeah. So he's been dealing with two Achilles, but it's been fine because they've both been hurting the same way.

And now one's a little bit worse and that's what the German doctor's looking at. Hank? It feels like you're definitely not playing this season should we credit the walls no cuz I was a wall want credit I don't the walls doesn't want credit but he feels like he's it's gonna happen are you talking about the VP debate tonight no we're talking about the wood walls the wooden walls okay wooden walls with locks on them no cuz the walls you know they didn't want to report it publicly so it's like right They like to whisper to people walking by but there's no point in asking for credit after if you didn't report it before

Yeah, now where does nice you know I'm sure the walls like damn Yeah, the walls like damn. I was I was ahead of this yeah big time ahead of this So where do you think the walls heard it from because somebody would have to tell it to the walls? Probably just some random guy yeah probably just some random guy probably probably opened up like a candy bar like an o'henry and it was just written on there yeah when did the walls hear about this week ago week two week two it was before yes before we went to Germany but and before that yeah everything that's happened since the walls walls

was was laughed at when he said right everything that's happened since the walls the walls was was laughed at when he said right everything that's happened since the walls Said that Christopher Caffrey's contemplating retirement has made it look like the walls are stronger than ever now Have the walls heard anything from our good friend Mike Floreo about any sort of legal recourse that could happen for fantasy football owners Who might have drafted this player the walls is not a fan of Mike Floreo and thinks he's he's fake news and a fraud in a great fan fiction about what team just a lot of teams sorry name our team okay so I don't think the walls is too worried about Mike Floreo is the walls known for throwing darts now yeah on the course on the golf course on the golf course but not and I'm talking about like stories like you don't just throw stuff at the wall See if it sticks the walls could dunk

Was there a hole in this wall that was about eight inches off the ground maybe Okay Okay, but yeah, he's definitely not gonna play this year and it's He's definitely not gonna play this year and it's like An actual no, that's just my that's just Henry Lockwood the move the wall from the conversation. That's just me After seeing the report that was actually reported. Mm-hmm. If you have double Achilles tendonitis It seems impossible that you'd come back this year. So that's just my take. Okay from no medicine report? No. Do you know what report nor rumor? Do you know what tendonitis is? Achilles tendonitis? Yeah, I just know from all the things I've read, like it's impossible to come back from. Okay, quickly. On one,

let alone two. Yeah, double. Double double. It seems like it's like, you know, if you have it, I don't know. So I'm sure people will get mad at me for this But it feels like if you have one bad Achilles tendonitis you can like have a boot or walk around and kind of like crutches Or whatever if you have both What do you do? Yeah, but if you have two do you have one because the whole thing about your whole life is pain But when you say like my Achilles heel is this one thing? It's because you have one issue everything else is great So if you have two of them is that even bad or you're in double the amount of pain

It might just be in double so it's Chris Rakevich is walking around in a Johnny Cash song Yeah, okay occurs when the tendon that connects the back of your leg to your heel becomes swollen and painful near the bottom of the foot Yeah, it causes swelling and pain So if you don't if you don't let it fully heal you it's very easy to tear oh Okay, okay, all right has he considered not being a pussy Has he considered? suing the walls No the walls yeah

All right, what's your cool thrown? My cool throws Jimmy Carter. Yeah Birthday is today a wake up day? A hundred first day? You gotta wake up. First president to live to a hundred. He's gonna get up and that cake today. This is, this is Jimmy's big day. Wow. What's this? What's the weird stat? Who's the first president to be born in a hospital? Was it George H.W. Bush? Is that true? Obama. You're thinking of Kenya. Was it George HW Bush? Is that true? Yeah. Obama?

No, you're thinking of Kenya. First president to be born in a hospital. Or was it Jimmy Carter? Yeah, it was Jimmy Carter. It was. That's crazy. Jimmy's 100. While that he lived to 100 and he's the first president to do that considering how bad it ages you, but he was only in office for four years.

We can say Jimmy Carter, he was president of the United States, much better human being. He's an all time human being. Yeah. Well, we don't know, is he still a human being? Because he doesn't wake up. I think he is a human, I don't know if being is the right word. I think you have to wake up. He's a human, he's a human being because he doesn't wake up. I think he is a human I don't know if beings right where I think you have to wake up. He's a human He's a human exist. I hope that he woke up today. I really do. Yeah, I hope he did I hope he's a big T always says that that Jimmy he was put into hospice what like two years ago

Yeah, three years ago has been bad for a while. He's been beating the fuck out of hospice, but It's because he stopped building houses. Yep yep he got off roofs need to get him back on the roof maybe get him back on the grass Jimmy congrats Jimmy you made it good job Hank on both the Christian McCaffrey report and Jimmy Carter mm-hmm thanks I'll tell the walls mm-hmm okay My hot seat is woge because as we speculated, the torch might be getting passed to Adam Schefter. Which is crazy. If you're Adam Schefter, don't you you enjoy NBA because you get to put your phone down

for a little bit. No PFT. He is addicted to it. No, he can't stop breaking news. So Schefter might take over as the NBA insider. No, no, no. The ultimate insider. The ultimate insider. That's how it was reported.

And that's why, because I thought the same thing. I was like, Shepty, what are you doing, man? You're going to spend the rest of your life with your phone up to the glass every time you shower? Like, what are you doing? But if ESPN comes to you and says, hey, Shepter, open this envelope, and inside it just says Ultimate Insider. You have to take that.

You have to get an office with a door just so you can put Ultimate Insider on it. Ultimate Insider. Adam Schefter is becoming his own social media platform. Yeah. And you post on it by being an agent and calling Adam Schefter and giving him the scoop. And then he just puts that out. And if you subscribe to Adam Schefter, he should do his own app Yeah

What a source by the way that is so so the front office sports that exclusive Adam Schefter could be a candidate to replace Woj ESPN's senior NBA insider In this scenario Schefter would cover both the NFL and NBA as what a source called the ultimate insider that source Adam Schefter I love the 100% he said hey, they're talking about me being the ultimate inside I love the fact that he there's an Adam Schefter for Adam Schefters out there. Yes news, but it was Adam Schefter Yeah, so just send it to them. He is he's a one-man show, man I mean, I hope we can get him still on the show if he becomes the ultimate insider Yeah, you just do it for the ultimate insider title. There's nothing you can do when someone says hey you want to be the ultimate insider

Just do it for the Ultimate Insider title. There's nothing you can do when someone says, hey, you want to be the Ultimate Insider? Fuck yes, I do. Is he gonna do news now? Is he gonna do, like, he's gonna replace CNN? Everything, he's the Ultimate Insider. Okay, good job. Cool Throne?

Oh, Cool Throne. My Cool Throne was gonna be Jimmy Carter. Ah, congrats to Jimmy Carter. Yeah, should I do my Fire Fest right now? Cause it happened today? Yeah. Yeah! Bad Fire Fest, bad Fire Fest. now? Because it happened today? Yeah. Yeah. Bad Fire Fest.

Bad Fire Fest. I won't do one on Friday. But this morning, we came into the office a little bit early. Had to get here at 9 AM. We were doing a commercial shoot. And so I get in my car, start up the El Camino, running beautifully as always. And I never take the highway to go to work.

This is the part that confused me. In the El Camino. I never take the highway. I usually work. This is the part that confused me El Camino I never take the highway I usually take a back road For many reasons number one just being on the highway with that car if I have to go fast sometimes It's a little dicey, but I got on the highway Traffickers thought beforehand like I'm yeah was there. Yeah, was there like a one second like oh shit. This is a bad idea No, no, so I take it on the highway a lot, but it's just better to it's cooler to drive it around it like 35 miles per hour I also have a question. Yeah, is the Camino the everyday car? I feel like it's the everyday car. It has been in the summer

Yeah, it is the fall October Well, I had I had it for July August September ran beautifully all three of those months. I was on a nice little hot streak, got the license plate. Everything's looking good on it. It's been in good shape. I get it on the highway. I took the highway this morning because it was about seven minutes faster.

And I figured, okay, I'll use those seven minutes. Probably not a bad idea to take it on the highway, which I've done before. And, uh, I get about halfway to the office and I'm in the middle lane. And the car just turns off. It just shuts down. And traffic is pretty bad at this point. It's not super bad, but it's bad. I can't change lanes. I'm going up a hill. I've only got probably 20, 30 more feet left of coasting in front of me and I can't move the car at all and It just stops and it dies and if you live in Chicago and you're going east on 90 on Wednesday on Tuesday morning I would like to take out a full page. Yes part of my take and apologize to you because I

I was the reason for the traffic jam because it died in the middle of the fucking highway today Max can attest to this I was walking around the office not saying god damn it Why did PFT take the El Camino? I just was going around just to everyone be like why the fuck is he on 90? I was just so mad. I was like why did he do that? Yeah, I'd never do it. I never do it unless it's like Super early where it saves me ten minutes, or if it's late at night. I never do it. Uh, unless it's like super early where it saves me 10 minutes or if it's late at night, I'll take the highway sometimes. Uh, but it was, it was a nightmare. Having your car die in the middle of the highway rush shower. And then I start your piece of shit. I was a piece of shit this morning. I don't know what's

wrong with it. It's been running perfectly and then I had people Going around me and once every two minutes a car would stop as they're going around me roll their window down be like hey PFT Oh, and I'd be like I can't I can't like wave at him I'm just like sitting there being miserable this gives me anxiety you just telling the story I was sitting there sweating. I tried to listen to a podcast just take my mind off it But then I felt guilty about listening to a podcast as I'm waiting for the tow truck I it was too busy for me to get out of the car and push it to the side And then eventually a very nice dude in a cement mixer stopped parked across two lanes of traffic Got out and he's like hey put it in neutral. I put a neutral he pushed it

I rolled it to the side of the road physically or in the cement mixer truck No physically just gave it a shove then I'm on the side of the road. So you could have done that No, no, it was it was not safe for one per I caught it Yeah, that sense push it get back in yeah drive it because I'm gonna go throw the whip No, because also traffic was going at that point almost full speed around me. Yeah, get next to me He gave you a block. He swerved off, he blocked. Yeah, he's my fullback.

And so he shoves me, then I'm sitting on the side of the road. I've got AWLs that are stopping, pulling over for a picture. We have an interview coming up. We've got an interview coming up and I'm just sitting there and there's an ad deal. We had a commercial. And in the past, I've not taken the El Camino if it's a long trip or if it's something that we know that we absolutely cannot be late for but I have driven it to the office every day for like the last three months and it's

been perfect and so yeah it got it got towed up to the shop and I think this is it's got telling me I can't have it all no you can't drive it after Summer yeah, I got was a problem. It's probably it was like 60 degrees this morning. It's a September too cold Man, I still got Jayden, which is nice. Yeah, all right. I I don't I my cool throne was gonna be Schefter becoming the Ultimate insider I had just a hot seat real quick before we get to booger and this comes from Chi socks fan Mike This is a tweet from October 1st 2023 so exactly one year ago today. Okay

He said thank you to all my white socks Twitter friends for sharing another season of socks baseball with me This was the worst season I can remember. But the good news is that next year can't be any worse. It got way worse. It got way way worse. I don't think it can get worse than this. I Jerry Reinsdorf could do that. I don't know if you guys read that article. So the White Sox went from they won 60 games last year. They won 41 this year. So got got way worse if they if they lose more games next year, I will I will eat human shit. Okay I sure said that I should have the Jerry Reinsorf the story in the athletic Detailing just everything about the White Sox organization was insane. He is such a shithead

They have a plane that only has eight first-class seats for a major league baseball club. They also have to like outsource their own analytics. They said that some of the guys like teams are obviously so advanced in analytics now in baseball. One of the there was an anonymous source that was I think in their farm system and the coaching staff on his exit interview before the season ended they told him in the offseason He has to work on his command If you want to get really mad just think about how much money Jerry Reinsdorf has made on that team this year Uh, he bought the team for I think it was like a bushel of blueberries and 19 million dollars

Yeah, and it still makes money and he doesn't have to spend money on it. And you know what's the craziest part? If you ask Jerry Reinsdorf, he said this on the record. He cares more about the White Sox than the Bulls. Yeah. That's the craziest part. That is his favorite. Baseball is his favorite sport in the entire world and he's this much of a shithead. What is he like about baseball? What is he like about the White Sox when they lose this many games? The lack of analytics.

Nobody got shot this year at a White Sox Dave or a White Sox game this year. Right. So White Sox Dave. Yeah. With their belly fat, the belly fat. Yeah. Smuggled the pistol in. Yeah, I do feel bad for White Sox fans.

It's brutal. But it's just Jerry Reinsers a piece of shit. And he just like he's a he's a monster He's an absolute monster isn't there for the betterment of baseball clause No, she's in that I think that's something that the that the commissioner has for the good of the game They you can step in and make Jerry sell the team take it away But then but then if he sells the white side the Seventh Amendment or something what is that 25th 25th amendment? Yeah, but if he sells the team then the Bulls become his favorite team

And then he'll put all that losing energy into the bowl. I think the White Sox still would be his favorite team He'd still show up. Yeah, he'd still show up He's got a he's got a they said that he has a secret door in his suite that goes to the analytics department Which is just one guy with like a mouse on a wheel is is Jerry Reinsdorf a better owner or a human being I? Guess human being Yeah, hmm Yeah, as of right now. I don't know yes 2005 yeah, I mean yeah, he got Michael Jordan seven what?

The White Sox won oh five yeah count the. Yeah, I think he might be a better owner He might be a better. I think he's a better owner than human being he's a really bad owner. Yeah, all right Let's get to our interview with booger before we do that pft. You got a quick ad I Do yeah before we get to our good friend booger McFarland's brought to you by football by Thursday night football on I do yeah before we get to our good friend Booger McFarlane it's brought to you by football by Thursday Night Football on Amazon this week. We got a great game coming up. We got the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and we have the revamped Atlanta Falcons.

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which would you like to start with because I have questions for both. I'd like to start with pro because that allows us to get to the Washington commanders and I know one half of you are really excited about that. Yeah so let's do it. I'm happy all the time Boog it's amazing like my entire mood has changed just watching football this year. All right. So, so let's start with that. What is the ceiling for the Washington commanders this season? Because it feels like it's been adjusted to, uh,

they might be the best team in the NFC East. Yeah. I think it's two parts to that. One, the Philadelphia Eagles, there's something going on in that locker room. Like if you look at their last 10 or so games, like they've only won like two out of their last 10 or parts to that. One, the Philadelphia Eagles, there's something going on in their locker room. Like if you look at their last 10 or so games, like they've only won like two out of their last 10 or something like that. Jalen Hurts is talking about he and the coach are kind of sometimes get along, sometimes they don't.

The defensive line seems to be out of shape. They're nowhere near what they were during their Super Bowl year. There's something amiss there. And Dallas, like Dallas can't get out of their own way. Plus Michael Parsons, Demarcus Lawrence are injured. And of CD Lamb, who is that throwing a football to? And the Giants are the Giants. And you coupled all of that with the fact that Jayden Daniels looks to be not just the best rookie quarterback. He's among the top 15 quarterbacks in football with the way

he's taking care of the football, his accuracy, and the dynamic feature that he brings with his leg. So it's early. I do caution PFT with that it's early, but the Washington Commanders look like the best team in the NFC East right now Okay I was thinking back to the last time I was this happy as a commander's fan It was probably towards the end of the 2012 season when RG 3 went on that that run But people forget that when we started that season, RG 3 had a great first game, no doubt about it, against the Saints. And he was a solid quarterback

in the first half of the season too, but the team wasn't that great. I think we started out three and six. This seems to be like, if I were to compare that season with this year, I think Jaden Daniels is a better quarterback right now than RG 3 was in 2012, at least through four games.

I think what he's doing is a little bit more sustainable than what Griffin did back in 2012. I know that Kyle Sheahan kind of changed the offense at that point and installed some stuff we haven't seen. But I am also guarding myself against the fact that the first four defenses that we played against haven't been that great. And I don't know if they haven't been that great because they played against us, or if it's just the commanders are, are beating up on relatively easy defenses.

So you tell me, do you think what Jayden is doing? Is that a model for a sustainable quarterback in the NFL? Absolutely. Because there's a couple of differences and a couple of reasons why it's sustainable. Uh, and, and, and I kind of wanted the same. If you remember RG three early on on, he wilded you with his legs. Like there was a 50 or 60 yard run in there somewhere. Jayden is yet really to break one of those 50, 60 yard Michael Vig Lamar Jackson runs. Everything he's doing right now is with his arm and his poise. And I think number two, doesn't he seem like he's just moving in slow motion? Like he's having fun, like he's calm, like the, like the game's not too fast for him.

And to me, that's the sign of somebody that understands the offense that he's in. He understands what his role is and he knows that he's got some playmakers and Terry McLaurin and he's able to get the football to them. And so there are some subtle differences, but I think you look at his accuracy. I think he's what? 79, 80% completion percentage. I think you couple that with, with just his poison demeanor, man. Like you got to feel really good about what you see behind center.

Like you juxtapose that to Will Levis. Will Levis looks like all hell is about to break loose every time he touches the football and Will Levis has been in the league a couple of years. Now I know he hadn't played a lot of football, but you just compare and contrast that to Jaden Daniels and just look at the two. It's like daylight and dark. And that's why I think this is sustainable

because once you get to a point where the game is moving slow, Patrick Mahomes, CJ Shroud, Josh Allen, the game moves really slow, then you feel like you can dictate the defense as what you want to do. And it almost seems like Jaden is doing that right now. And that's really unheard of for a rookie

Outside of maybe what CJ shroud did last year. Yeah, it does It's it's it looks like the game is easy. He's playing on easy mode rookie mode right now Alright, so I had a question off of something you just said there you said, you know, it's early When is it no longer early? What point of the season are you kind of are what you are and you got to go forward with what that is all right let's have a little fun here normally in baseball they say look up when after Memorial Day right yeah so what what holiday do you think we look at in football and say that's that's our kind of line of demarcation where we can look up and kind of know who's who Columbus day yeah no not Columbus day Halloween Halloween guys

Let's get to let's get to Halloween and body in everybody will take their mask off and you know, who's who By the time you get to Halloween everyone takes their mask off puts their costume up and you realize who's who so It's still early until we get done trick or treating, by the way, by the way, big cat, I know you have kids PFT, not really sure about you. I would guess no right now, but I made up. Okay. What kind of candy are we giving out for Halloween? Ah, so I do everything in my house. Um, my kids love every, every candy I got. I'm not worried about the candy the candy is easy I gotta figure out what I'm gonna be for Halloween because my son keeps saying he wants me to be an eyeball

So I think I have to be what is it? What's Monsters Inc? Oh, yeah, who's that guy? I don't know, but I think I have to be he keeps saying he wants me to be an eyeball I don't know where that came from But I got to figure out my costume is very important to me and Halloween because I want my kids to like Like see the fun of it like I dress up with them and I have a lot of fun with them So it's like that's what I'm stressed about If I were you I'd just be like stay puff. Okay. All right that works Yeah, we're kind of a stay puff sweatshirt right now. That works

Yeah, everything fits. You don't have to add anything. You just kind of fit. It's kind of feel right in, you know? I feel like that was always going to go to Stay Puft. Yeah, he was setting you up for that. I like to give out good size candy bars. I like to be known as the house on the street that hands out the full size because you remember

that house. You do. Or maybe I'll just zigzag this year and hand out toothbrushes. There was always a dentist in the neighborhood. Yeah, or the random guy who handed out like quarters Yeah, it's like what the fuck just do apples and then have the parents freak out like yeah careful There's a razor in there. Yeah 100% a razor. Alright, so So sticking with the NFL

The Ravens are the Ravens so they start owing to they're very close You know, obviously the game against the Raiders was like, how do you lose that game? But do you think this Ravens team is a Superbowl caliber team? Cause I'm starting to buy back in on the Ravens, the way they're running the football, Derek Henry look like I thought Derek Henry would be washed at this point. He rips off an 87 yard run on Sunday night football. It's like, what the hell just happened? So it like, do you see the Ravens as the best, uh, team to challenge the chiefs in the AFC or is it, or is it another team? Well, uh, the Ravens have been a super bowl contender for the last two or three years. So that's nothing new. I think what's going to make

the Ravens different this year is if we can get the Ravens we saw against Buffalo in December and January. Yeah. Like the Ravens won what 14 games last year 13 like they've been a contender for a while. That's nothing new. Can we get Lamar in the postseason to make those plays that he hadn't made the last couple years? What where you can beat a Patrick Mahomes, you can beat a Josh Adam, like nobody remembers September guys, we remember December and January. And so while you know, we wake up Monday morning and everybody on get up is man, the Ravens are the team to beat and they're the best team in football. Okay. Give me a break. It's September. All right.

Let's get to December and January when everybody's been playing football for four or five months, the body's a little sore. The body's a little tired. Can Lamar Jackson handle the mental pressure that he's going to be under to deliver in the postseason? Because as great as he's been, and he's been great, he's on the way to being a Hall of Famer, he's a two-time MVP, he's come up small in the postseason. Lamar Jackson, Dak Prescott have both come up small in the postseason. And so nothing they can really do in September

is going to really change my mind. They have to change my mind come December and January. Yeah. Yeah. What about the NFC West? I think that's an interesting division because you've got the Niners who going into the season, everybody thought, okay, we're going to get the same Niners again. Now they've got some serious injury issues, not just with the Caffrey. He's seen like German doctors, which is, it's never a good sign if you have to leave the continent to go see a doctor. That's usually bad. And then you've got obviously Debo and, and I, you hasn't looked great this season so far. That might be a little, little leftovers from missing all the training camp, but you've got them. And then you've got the Seahawks who I think look really good. I think the

Seahawks, you know, despite the fact they lost Monday Night Football, I think they look very good offensively. I think their defense is okay and I trust their head coach a lot. So in that division, I don't know, I feel like the 49ers, they were great before they had McCaffrey, right? So even, let's just say McCaffrey doesn't come back this season. Do you still count them as the favorites to win that division or is it going to be somebody else? They can win the division without McCaffrey. They can't win a Super Bowl without him. I think the Rams, Matthew Stafford seems like a shell of himself. Like he's throwing the football to the other team. They lost to the Bears. No offense big cat. The Bears defense is pretty good. Okay, buddy. Let's settle down. All right. All right. Yeah. I thought you knew ball. I guess you

don't. Well, I mean, the Bears defense was good last year and they still didn't do anything. So let's not go. They have a quarterback now. Are you sure about that? Yeah, I am sure about that. I know you're a hater. I know you're a Cale Williams. I've seen what you said. I'm not a hater. You're on the list. Okay. Okay. Let's you're on the list. I want to hear the list in a minute, but, as far as the NFC West is concerned, am I concerned about, you know, Kyle Murray? No, probably not. Just because we know what Arizona is going to be. Seattle Gino showed me something last night, even though they didn't win.

They were missing four defensive starters last night to go into that building and take that team where they did. They showed me a little something. I think it comes down in between Seattle and San Francisco. And I think at the end of the day, San Francisco is good enough to win it because of their defense, but they're not going to be able to make hay in the playoffs unless they get McCaffrey back. And PFT, I agree with you. Anytime you have to start going and catching multiple flights, that some of them over 10 hours ago, see a doctor that's usually, that's usually not good, because that's not the first opinion. That's like the second or third opinion that you've gone to get. And when you got to go to another country for a guy to tell

you something good, that's usually not a good thing. It feels like Christian McCaffrey every like week another, it gets more and more severe. Like next week they're just gonna be like, yeah, Christian McCaffrey doesn't have legs because it was just, you know, at first it was a little soreness. Then it was 10 to 90 some one, then it was 10 to 90 some both. Then it's just like, yeah, he, he actually hasn't walked in six months. He has no legs. Yeah. But Booger, you make a good point where you see that you see the German doctor after you've already seen three doctors and each one tells you the same thing and it's not good. It's like, it's like some of the ladies now they're going to bro. What is it?

To get the butt lift, yeah Brazilian butt live there's a reason America won't do it. Yeah, okay There's a reason nobody in the States are doing it and you got to go out of the country to get it It's probably usually not a good thing. It may make you feel better. But in the long run, it's probably not a good thing Yeah So I had a question about the Vikings and Sam Darnold. At what point do we say this is just a different guy? And I think I'm there already, but is there any part of you that is cautious to be like, Hey, he's going to eventually go back to not being able to take care of the football, seeing ghosts, all that stuff. Or are you like, Hey,

this is new system, great coaching staff, great weapons. This is what he always was going to be if he was put in the right spot. I'm gonna make an analogy and it's probably gonna be pretty wild. Okay. Like if you look at Sam Donah, he was in almost like he had to go to rehab

and he had to go through like a 12 step program. And I think Kevin O'Connell took him through that program where he was just trying to say no to all these different things that was stopping him from being a good quarterback. All right. Like he, like he had to get off all the, all the bad quarterback drugs. Now, does that mean he's not going to have a relapse and have a game or two? Probably so.

But what do you do when you relapse? You go, you, you go back, you see your sponsor to get you back right. And he's ready to go. So I think at some point he's going to have a bad game or two, but it doesn't mean that he's going to revert back to the old Sam Dono, because I think at some point he's going to have a bad game or two, but it doesn't mean that he's going to revert back to the old Sam Dono because I think he's, he's seen the light, like he knows what it looks like on the other side of rehab, of quarterback rehab. And I think he knows when,

when he gets a guy like Kevin O'Connell that says, I can put you in position where you forget all about everything that you used to do, all your bad habits, everything that had people said that you were seeing go so Monday night, all those things. Now he's human, he's gonna have a bad game or two. But what I've seen from Sam Donnell makes me believe that I think it's here to stay as long as that pairing is there.

Now I think when the rubber is gonna meet the road is after this season, however far they go, I think Sam's gonna have a great year. Now, if you're in Minnesota, what do you do when Sam Donnell throws for 4000 yards and 35 touchdowns? And he wants a new contract because he's gonna want, you know, 30 or 40. He's gonna want at least the Baker Mayfield deal, right? Three years 100 million. And if

you're Minnesota, are you going to get up to get that give that to him with JJ McCarthy sitting there? I think that's the conversation later on. But right now, to answer your question, I am a believer in Sam Darnold right now because of what I've seen and because of the play caller, they marry well together. Yeah, and to further your analogy, it's like Sam Darnold, he went to,

he went to like, you know, hardcore rehab last year with Kyle Shanahan, and now he's like halfway house with Kevin O'Connell. It's all fixed. It's also this season, I feel like the theme is, it just further proves how important coaching is and time and place. And a lot of these guys that we say are bus it's time and place. You look how Baker's playing, you look how Gino's playing, how Justin Fields

is playing, how Sam Darnold's playing. It's like all these guys have the talent. It's just, can you be in an organization that brings the best out of you and not an organization that stunts your growth? I'll give you another one Malik Willis. Yeah, well this was to an old dude Yeah, like we thought Malik Willis was a bust and all of a sudden he goes to an old because Matt Lafleur puts him in a really good position. So to your point man coaching matters It isn't amazing when somebody believes in you man how much that means somebody says you know what? I think you can do it. Like that's what I, you know what? I think you can do it.

Like, that's what I tell you every Saturday. I think you can do it, big, big guy, but you, but you never do it. But I'm not going to, I'm not going to go in on you today. I just, I just want you to know that I do believe in you. It's amazing. What happens when someone believes in you and hopefully, uh, somebody will believe in Bryce Young, because I think the people in Carolina have given up on Bryce Young. And I hope somebody down the road can believe in him

because I was a Bryce Young fan, but from what I've seen to this point, it's like, man, where's the guy that I saw at Alabama? I haven't seen him in a while. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I think there will be a team that takes a chance on him. A team that says, okay, I saw the tape too.

I know that you're capable of making throws. I know you're capable of playing well and we'll take a chance on you and see what's going on here. But from what I saw from Bryce, I didn't see it. I haven't, I don't think I've seen anything besides that one game against Green Bay last year where I thought to myself, okay, Bryce Young, I think he can play in this league. Have you seen anything? No, he looks small. Like I knew he was small, but like he, like he looks really small. Yeah. If you look at Collin Murray, Collin Murray at least has a little thickness to him.

Like Bryce Young looks like he's like, my son's 13 years old and he's bigger than Bryce Young. Like that's what he looks like out there. And that's a bad feeling when you look at yourself on tape and you see yourself and you're like, man, like do I really fit? Like you can tell he's lacking the confidence. Do I fit?

Do I belong? And Dave Canales, as much as we give him the moniker of being a quarterback guru with what he did with Gino and what he did with Baker and Tampa, he's kind of failed Bryce Young so far. Yeah. So we're talking a lot about quarterbacks. Let's talk about some defenses. I know you love watching the big dudes up front. What, what defenses have surprised you in a good way this season? In a good way. What defenses? Buffalo. Other than the game against Baltimore, Buffalo's defense has been lights out when they lose both safeties. You lose Milano,

like they got a lot of missing pieces. And other than the Buffalo game, that defense been really good now. It's been really, really good. Kansas city's defense has been lights out for the last couple years. Chicago's defense continues to be really good. Indianapolis Indianapolis that defense, like as much as we give Gus Bradley a lot of stuff, because he's so vanilla. That defense has been really good defense has been a hit offense, but I feel like over the next month or so, you're going to start to see a separation where the good defenses kind of stay ahead, but the bad ones kind of flow back to the flocks a little bit. Yeah. So, um, speaking of the chiefs, do you think they're going to trade for a wide receiver

or do you think it's like, Hey, we can do this our way and we'll find a way because the chiefs, I feel like are in that's that spot now where gone is, you know, where she writes if he's out for the year, Xavier, where these obviously really fast, but that explosive offense isn't the same offense that they're running now, but they're just winning games and that's all they have to do. Like just be within a touchdown with Patrick Mahomes in the second half and you're okay. They need another playmaker because they got too many question marks. Like if there was just one question mark, Patrick could make up for it. But there's a question mark at left tackle. There's a

question mark at wide receiver. There's a question mark at running back. You're asking Patrick to make up a lot. Yeah. Okay. Not only does he have to evade whoever's playing, you know, windshield wiper left tackle. Now he's got to try to allow Travis Kelsey to get open because he's a tick slow. Now you got to deal with a rookie number one receiver and Xavier worthy. So there's a lot of question marks, they need to solve one of those question marks. And so do I think they go get a piece or receiver? Yeah, because that's the easiest one to solve. And there are a lot of guys out there. Could you imagine this? Imagine the chiefs with Devante Adams? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, would that be out of the world if they if they offer if they offer

The Raiders are one what and if you're the Raiders, would you get rid of him? What about what about the chiefs with Tyreek Hill? Could you imagine that? Where they had him they'd let him go. What is it their rule? I saw I think Tweeted this out yesterday There's a rule that if you trade a player, if you lose a player, you can't get them back on your team for what? Like two seasons. What? Yeah. They were talking to you. I'm not Bryce Huff. If you, if you trade a guy or Hassan Reddick, yeah. Yeah.

Oh, let's not read it. You can't trade a guy back to the original team for like two seasons. So I don't think that applies to Tyree kill because it wasn't a trade. I don't think right. Well, it was because it wasn't a trade. I don't think right? Well, it was a free agent. I thought it was trade. No, I don't think it was a trade. Was Tyreek a free agent? I think it was a trade. I don't know y'all got computers in front of you. We do have computers. That's a good point. That's a good point. Big Gats, we got our research boys in the back working on it right now. Yeah.

Okay, I'm gonna find it. I'm gonna find it. I think it was a business decision by the Chiefs not correct correct I thought he was a free agent. I traded him for five draft picks. Oh really? Yeah, I was right Yeah, so we can't go back to the Chiefs. Ah, that was 20 22. So he probably can't I think it's two seasons Yeah, it was two seasons to four these rules. That's a stupid rule. I never heard of that rule before I think I think Deandre Hopkins on the Chiefs would be a great fit. Yeah, they need somebody that can work. If you notice what Rashid Rice was doing, like Worthy can still do the deep stuff.

Travis Kelsey is kind of the jack of all trades a little bit as far as being a tight end and underneath. They need somebody that can run routes and get open and separate. I don't know if D Hop is the guy that can still like, he's still a good receiver, but can he separate? He's more of that 50, 50 ball guy. Like they need a, they need somebody like a, I'll throw a name out there for you. And I'm not saying this is the guy,

but imagine somebody like a hundred room fro that can work the middle and get open really quick. Like they need somebody like that, not hundred room fro, cause I don't think, I don't think they need him, but somebody like that because that's what Rice was starting to do. Work the middle, get open, the slants, the comebacks, all those little things. Maybe Adam McConkey, Adam Thielen, maybe Luke McCaffrey, that type of guy. Like somebody like McCaffrey. Yeah, Adam Thielen. Cooper DeGene. Yeah. No, Cooper. No, not Cooper's a DB. Yeah. Oh, Riley Cooper is what I was Riley. Yeah, like a Wes Welker type. Yeah. And yeah, maybe. Okay. Yeah. Someone like the Braxton

Barrios kind of guy. I think like a Wayne Crabet. Yeah. Is that who you're thinking of? Maybe Ed McCaffrey. Ed McCaffrey could probably still let's let's keep going back getting old white receiver we don't see color here I could play this game all day booger booger is brought to you by uber eats whether you're ordering wings for the game whipping up a seven layer dip or ordering pizza there's something about football that makes you want to eat and this football season uber eats has the best deals on gameday food no matter what you're craving. From 2 for 1 pizza to buy 1 get 1 wings, Uber Eats will be dropping new deals each week all season long. Uber Eats, the official on-demand delivery partner of the NFL, order now for gameday. Terms and conditions apply. See the

app for details. And now, more booger. Talk to me about Aaron Rodgers and what's going on with the Jets because it feels like Aaron Rogers has been like secretly, not so secretly calling, calling the show up there in New York for the last couple of seasons. And, uh, it didn't look good. Maybe it was the weather. Maybe it was the weather, but what have you seen from Aaron? Do you think that he's still got it? Yeah, Aaron's still got it. Uh, I think Aaron is trying to figure out what he has around him.

They got a lot of talent, man. You got Garrett Wilson, you got Breece Hall, you got Braylon Allen, you got Lazard. Like they got weapons. It was very shocking that they only scored nine points and that's Aaron's fault. Like we can blame the weather. You can say whatever. Bo Nicks had what, 10 and you had nine. So a rookie in his fourth start fourth start out scores you and I know the Broncos defense is good But the Jets defense is good also But as far as a guy who played defense in the National Football League for about a decade if we hold a team of ten points I expect to win that game 97% of the time. Mm-hmm. And the fact that we lost that game That's on Aaron Rodgers and I think in a private moment Aaron Rodgers will tell you that he's got to be better and

Aaron is kind of like the old guy that's stuck in his own ways. And here's what I mean. He wants the offense to run the way that he wants to. There's so much going on in offense right now. Like if you look at what you guys are doing in Washington, a lot of motion, a lot of zone read, a lot of shotgun, like everything is movement. It's a lot of innovative stuff. The Jets aren't doing that.

It's Aaron at the line of scrimmage dictating and like they got a bob a little bit man, and Aaron's got to be better So he can still throw it go back to that Monday night against the 49ers The arm is still there but offensively he and his he and his best friend Nathaniel Hacker They've got to figure it out. Yeah, it does feel it does feel bad All right, so I got some college questions for you booger. Before we get to college, can I, I do have a, I do have a question for you guys. If you were to find yourself in a Shannon sharp situation, yeah. How would you handle that? So if that were to happen to me, I would be the happiest person on earth,

but no, the problem would be, nobody would think that was real. They'd be like, Oh, PFT is playing a prank on us. Yeah. You actually would, we actually are in a good spot where anything that we fuck up We can just be like haha joke. Yeah, it was satire. Yeah, I was doing a Saturization of social media. Yeah, it was social experiment It did scare me though because the his explanation was that he's never been live on Instagram and then he tossed his phone and it went live and I think people look back on it and I don't think he had been live on Instagram and then he tossed his phone and it went live.

And I think people look back on it and I don't think he had been live before. So now I feel like I've got this ticking time bomb in my pocket that's liable to go live but never in a million years would it catch me having sex with a woman who was enjoying it. And she's kind of giving you a lot of accolades during that. Yes, exactly. It would, whatever the case may be, it would not come off as good as it did for Shannon Sharp.

Well, just, just so you know, when I heard it, I started thinking about people who could pull it off and kind of get away with it. And the first person I thought about was you, just so you know, that's why I brought it up. I appreciate that. See, when I heard it, I started jerking off. Please tell me, please tell me you were, you were at home home and no, I was at work. I was like, hold on guys. I'm going to go take a piss. Um, I don't know what skip Bayless's first thought was. That's

that honestly my first reaction was like, what is he probably should have been me? Well, no, cause skipping artist didn't sleep in separate bedrooms. So that would never go on. Yeah. Um, so a booger college. First question. Does Kirby smart have an Alabama problem? Cause it feels like he does one in six all time against them. And the one you could make the argument, we're not going to do what ifs, but you could make the argument. Jamison William doesn't tear his ACL and that game maybe goes different. So what is the deal? Georgia has been so good for his whole stretch there, but they seem to not be able to take down Alabama. And you

thought maybe you'd change. Maybe it was a Nick Saban problem, but Saturday night happens. And they just looked, I know credit to them for the comeback, but they looked not ready for the fight when it came, when it went, when the ball was kicked off in Tuscaloosa. I'll put it to you this way. There's an old saying that I learned a long time ago, never accept a carbon copy of the original because at some point the carbon copy is going to fall a little bit short. When Kirby built Georgia, he built it. What he saw at Alabama, you can't duplicate that. Now, Kirby has won two national championships and it's one hell of a program and they recruit better than anybody else.

But when they go against Alabama, it's the carbon copy going against the original. Right. And I don't think he has a saving problem because saving is not there. I just think the kids at Alabama step on the field saying, your team is built like, like us, but there's something about us that you can't replicate and Kirby hasn't been able to replicate it. And I think it's mental. I don't think it's physical.

I just think it's a mentality of how Nick Saban built that team, the culture, uh, and Caitlin DeBoer came in and I think the smartest thing he did was kind of keep Saban around. Saban's got an office in the, in the, in the facility or in the, in the, in the stadium. So Saban can kind of help the board keep the, the, the one thing that I think is the most important thing in college football is the culture. Right. How do you, how do you keep 17 to 21 year olds in this time locked in and not worried about NIL and focused and ready to run through a wall for you? It's the culture in your building building and it's amazing how he's done that. And so I think that's the that's the issue for Georgia. Georgia's got talent. Georgia recruits. Georgia's got more

five stars than anybody. Like they recruit better than anybody. But what they can't do is they can't play bully ball with Alabama. They can't play mental mind tricks with Alabama because Alabama started this. Like we're the one who started this gangster stuff You know, yeah, like there's nothing there's nothing you can do that. We haven't done before and so I just think it's something that Kirby's Gonna have to figure out They got to get over the hump. But as Tom Jackson and Boomer would say Once there's an accident two is a problem. Three is a trend like there's a trend here Yeah, one into what one in six that's a trend here. One and two, what one and six,

that's a trend. And he's got to figure it out. Yeah. And the culture thing is a great point because you could make the same argument that Ryan Day trying to replicate urban's culture is part of why they've fallen short with Michigan because urban, that culture, it didn't matter. You could get kids from Florida, Texas, California. For some reason, Urban was able to say to them, hey, it matters to beat Michigan and you play for Ohio State and like there, you would see that in the games. Ryan Day, it feels like that culture has fallen short with Michigan. And Ryan Day, I think the kids feel his anxiety. Yeah.

They, they feel that this is the biggest game in his life. Like Ryan Day is what 56 and eight or 57 biggest game in his life. Like Ryan Day is what, 56 and eight or 57 and eight in his career. And of those eight, he's lost what, three to Michigan and they're ready to fire him. Like if he doesn't beat Michigan this year, there's a strong chance he's gone. Mm-hmm, yeah.

And so Ryan Day doesn't have a coach part. He's got a Michigan issue. Yes. Whereas I think Kirby, Kirby is trying to figure out trying to figure out, um, how to kind of replicate and kind of put the finishing pieces on what he built replicating Alabama. Ohio station is trying to figure out how do we beat that team? How do we beat that team? That's given us so, so many issues and so many problems. And I feel for Ron day

cause Ron day is a good coach. The Chicago bears, the bears, you you know this big cat the Bears wanted to hire ron day at one point. Yeah. Yeah I mean the Bears have their own culture issue, but that's that's neither here. We're talking college now I do have a college question for you. Yeah, it's actually a question about your question So I think you tweeted this out over the weekend when you were watching college ball. You said here's a question Why do college kickers seem to what the bed more times than not and pressure game winning tying kicks? I have a theory, but would love to hear from you all, especially my football brethren, who what was your theory? My theory is this is that football players like we spend two and a half hours practicing in the heat, getting mentally fatigued, developing mental toughness. Kickers don't do that.

Kickers come out, kick for like 20, 30 minutes a day, they sit around, they play marbles and tiddly winks, and they're not mentally tough. And so when you get in those pressure moments, they haven't been mentally hardened, okay? And so they literally wet the bed. Like if you look at the kid for Ole Miss, like it was a 48 yard field goal,

and he didn't even get close. Yeah. Like it wasn't even remotely near the, near the goalpost. And that's not, that's not talent. That's just mental toughness, man. That's like the moment is getting too big. And when he's getting ready to pull that right leg back, he's like, Oh no, Oh no, what if I miss?

And then he shanks it. And so my theory is just that is I think you have to have a way. And what my coach used to do back in college is we would bring the kicker up at the end of practice. And if he made it, then we didn't have to run. If he missed, we had to run more gases. And so now there's pressure on the kick. Not only pressure for you, but what you does affects everybody else on the team. Because if you miss, we got to run more and we're going to be dog cussing you after we get done running. So you're the guy who's been over in the air conditioning for the last two hours while we've been practicing You better make this kick and so I just think kickers are mentally weak man

And some coaches have got to figure out a way to mentally toughen up kickers I like I love that your theory is that kickers are wimps. Yeah, I think I think there's some water to that Yeah, maybe the coaches like just say I'm to kidnap your family if you miss this kick in practice. But then, but then they don't actually do it on the video board. They put up the family. It's AI. Do you have like an AI video or the family? Yeah, yeah. Here it is. Here's the family. I'm going to kidnap a booger. Do you have a Heisman vote? No, I do not have a Heisman vote. So why is Travis Hunter your Heisman? Well, because I think, you I think the Heisman is given to the best player in college football.

Yes. It's never been the best quarterback. We've made it the best quarterback. Yes. And I think it's still gonna be the best quarterback. But I think if you look through five weeks, he's been the best player in the country. Yes.

Like he's got, I don't know, what, almost four or 500 yards receiving. He's got a couple of picks. Like he's playing more plays than anybody. What he does is unreal. Think about it this way. He could be a top five picket receiver and a top five picket corner. Yep. I don't think any, I don't think anybody, I can't remember anybody that's ever done that.

Like Charles Woodson only had 12 catches or so. I think it's the year he won the Heisman. Champ Bailey, the last guy I saw do both ways. Cause champ Bailey was in my era. Champ didn't have that many kicks. Like this dude's got like 30 or 40 catches already. He may wind up with like 90 catches and like eight or nine picks. Yeah. Like that's unheard of.

Just, just to be clear. Yeah. He has a 46 catches, 561 yards and six touchdowns right now on the season. I think he has, uh, I think he has three picks or something. It's, it's pretty crazy. That was a, that was a, do you know ball question and you passed because he is the Heisman. He should be the Heisman. It's crazy that people are going to ding him for Colorado. Maybe not being one of the best teams, but I'm so sick of the highs been just going to the best quarterback

on the best team. Like that's not how the award should work. But that's how the award does work because people who really don't know ball needs something to quantify. Yeah. What's the first thing they look at? Stats. Yeah. Yeah. As always tell them stats are like bikinis. They show some things, but not all things. And so I just, I just tell the stats people just take a step back and just look at ball. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They, they have an opportunity to prove that they know ball if they do the right thing and vote Travis Hunter for the Heisman trophy. He's the best college football player in the country. I don't think, I don't think it's particularly close. There's some good quarterbacks, but

none of them are as good at football as Travis Hunter. He needs to be the Heisman winner Yeah the other guy who might challenge him and who I've actually been a believer in who's starting to Get to a point where people are not doubting him anymore. Jalen Milro Are you in that in that camp where you're like, okay We know that he's struggled at times as a passer But he has been lights out and I there's something that he like He does things on the field that you shouldn't be allowed to do. Like you shouldn't be able to run, uh, sideways against an sec defense and turn the corner on an entire defense.

And he does it easily. So are you in like the jail and Millrose, the real deal camp? Yeah. And I think Kirby smart put it the best. He might be the best running back in the country and he can throw the football. Yeah. Like, like that's something that makes him special. And I think Kirby smart put it the best. He might be the best running back in the country and he can throw the football. Yeah. Like, like that's something that makes him special. And, and in his day and age guys, and you tell me what you think. I think the biggest cheat code in football.

It's not covered to like Mel Kuyper things. It's not a blitz. I think the biggest cheat code in football is a quarterback that can run. Because it changes everything. It changes the way we play defense. It changes how you call offense. It changes the way we play defense. It changes how you call offense. It changes everything around. If you have a quarterback that can run and he doesn't have to be like

Joe Montana as a pastor. He just needs to be average. Like if he's an average passer, he's phenomenal. If you look at Anthony Richardson, Anthony Richardson was the fourth pick in the draft. He'd only started 13 games, but because his athleticism was so vast and it was so unbelievable, he's the fourth pick in the draft and teams will say, I can develop him as a passer. I think Jalen Miro is going to be the same way.

And don't be surprised. And I know this is not specifically about the college game, but don't be surprised if he's a first round pick a quarterback. And if you would have said that a year ago when he got benched against us, people would have said you're crazy. Yeah. Yeah. I was at the Texas game and he couldn't, he couldn't complete a pass. It was like, this is crazy. They can't, he can't throw past 10 yards down the field. And now he just looks incredible. He seems like a good dude too. Really good. Like just a good human being. I don't know.

Is he a better human being or a football player? Last year I would have said much better human being than football player this year. I don't know. I think he might be a better football player He's developing you got to give him his coaching and he works like the kid works his ass off man Like I was I live here in Tampa and my buddy owns a facility where they get guys who are quote-unquote potential combine guys For the following year to come down. And Jaylen Miro came down with all the Alabama receivers and DBs and all that stuff. And so I saw him here in Tampa throwing the football like last spring. And just, you know, not that he was getting ready for the drive, but he just wanted to come get some work in.

And he was just down here working like the dudes he's six, two, six, three. He's two 20. Like, like he looks the part, like he looks unbelievably built and he's in, and his, the mental game of how you play quarterback is starting to marry up with, with his physical traits and Kaylin D'Amore is showing not only can I coach Michael Pinnix Jr. Who's a passer, I can build an offense around a guy who's quote unquote a runner. And I think you got to give Kaylin a lot of credit because coaching really matters as

we've learned. Yes. If you can, as a coach, you got to put your guys in position to succeed and Kaelum is doing that. So kudos to him. Yeah. Okay. So we've got Quinn Uers coming back for the Longhorns against Oklahoma for the Red River

shootout. We still call it the shootout. Watching Eli, or watching Arch Manning the last few weeks, do you think that if he struggles, it might be a quick hook for him? And it sounds crazy to say because we've had Ewers playing really well in Texas when he's on the field for the last couple of seasons. But what you see with Arch adds a little bit of a different dimension to the offense sometimes. So do you think that there might be a chance that you were, as we get benched, not because of injury this season, but if he goes out there and doesn't play up to his potential? No, I don't. And I think there's a, there's a level of loyalty that Steve Sarkeesian has.

And I think it goes back to when he recruited those guys. And I think he's built trust in them. And that's why those guys, that's why Arch is not gonna transfer. Because Arch knows that when his time is up, or when his time is there to be the quarterback, he's gonna be the quarterback. Like he doesn't, he knows that Steve is not gonna go

bring somebody else in. So he'll patiently wait his turn. But if you go back and look at what Quinn yours did in Ann Arbor against Michigan, like they took Michigan apart. Yeah. I think they're one of the best teams in the country. And as long as he's healthy, I think the level of loyalty that Sark has to Quinn is going to allow him to put Quinn back in and allow arch to say, okay, my turn is coming.

That goes back to culture. Yeah. Culture. It's built. I know I'm the next guy in line. And if, if, if Quinn gets hurt, I'll step in or if Quinn has a, I don't know, if Quinn gets dinged and I got to go in for a series of two, yeah, so I could do that. But I don't think he's going to pull him for poor play because if he pulls Quinn

for poor play, then arch has got to say, well, when it's my turn, what makes me think he won't pull me? Right. And so I think, I think there's a level that Sarc has to, has to build. Like he's built enough trust and enough equity with those guys where, where he's not going to have to do that as far as pulling Quinn for Arch or when Archie's time is there to pull Arch for somebody else. Who, uh, in the SEC, let's say the SEC gets four teams in the college football playoff. Who are those four teams? Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, Texas.

Okay. So Ole Miss, that was a, that was a pretty bad loss for Ole Miss at home against the team. Like that was the Ole Miss of old where they just beat up on these really bad teams to start the season, score a million points. And then they face a bully and their O line kind of faltered. And it's just like, is this the same thing? Are they going to, are this going to happen again? Where they play Alabama or they play Georgia and they just get bullied to the line of scrimmage again? Cause that it feels that it was going that way.

Now I'll give Ole Miss a little, a little, I'm not going to beat them up too bad. Kentucky's defensive line is really good. Like they got three or four pros up there in there and they're too deep. But this was supposed to be the year, right? For Ole Miss, right? We went out, we got Walter Nolan.

We got Prince, whatever his name is from Florida. Like they got all these good players. Jackson darts back, Lane Kiffin is new and improved. But to your point, it kind of looked like the same old miss. Yeah. You know, as long as the game is run and shoot, they can play. But when it becomes a street fight, they couldn't play the game. And we'll see.

They play South Carolina in Columbia. And Willie B is going to be rocking. South Carolina's got a defensive line that's really good. So the same formula is going to be there. If South Carolina's defense can kind of play to their level and Jackson Dart and Ole Miss get a little impatient, they could be in a dogfight in Columbia. And then the following week, they got to come to Baton Rouge, which, oh, by the way, if you've never been to Baton Rouge and

never been to a night game, October 12th, Saturday night, Tiger State, and you might want to put that one on your calendar. Yeah. Yeah. We've been many times and it really, there's nothing, nothing compares to it. It really doesn't. So give, give me your college football national champion and your Superbowl winner. And I'm going to put you under kicker pressure here. If you don't get them right, we're all going to run. OK. College football national championship game.

I'm going to go Texas versus Alabama. OK. Super Bowl, I'm going to go Detroit versus Baltimore. Oh, and who's your champion? I'm going to the three one three, baby. Detroit. I think Detroit wins it all this year. Their weapons are insane.

That Monday football game where they just, it's just when everything's firing, it's just so hard to defend them. And Ben Johnson is doing shit. That's just, I mean that pasted Jared Go them. And Ben Johnson is doing shit. That's just, I mean, that past Jared Goff, that was like the perfect play. I don't think they have a hole on their offense. I think that they've got top to bottom, the best offensive roster in the NFL. Yeah. The offensive line is really good. They got two, two good backs. They got two good receivers. The quarterback is playing out of his mind. Uh, their biggest issue is going to be on defense. Can they

get somebody to help hutch rush to passer? Is somebody going to tell Terry on Arnold that you can't hold every play? And can they stay healthy? Like, like that's going to be the issue because they're secondary. Carlton Davis is pretty good. Arnold man, like he's got a, like he had five, like four penalties last night. He's got like seven or eight so far this year, like teams will start to identify him and pick on him. He's got to get better.

And then he, one more guy to step up to help Hutch rush to pass. Yeah. All right. Last question has been awesome. Bug we always love having you on a rollback question. R H O B A C K.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, row back.com promo code take. So PFT just got your college football champion and you're in your super bowl champion. Uh, who's going to win the world series world series? Um, I think the Philadelphia feelings are the best. Yeah, let's go for max our guy. I think Phillies, like, like if you're, if

you're a TV network, you won't Phillies Yankees World Series. Yeah I mean Citizens Bank Park is the best atmosphere in baseball the SEC going the bag They were saying it's like an SEC Stadium It's it's as close to an SEC football stadium that you can get in baseball like it's unreal Yeah Vanderbilt Maybe well, I mean, yeah, I mean, Vandy's come a long way. Um, and, uh, I'll take the Phillies though. Okay. Phillies. Oh, Phillies over Yankees. I love that. All right.

You want to do hockey and basketball too? Well, we got you hockey. I think the best team in the hockey right now, preseason is going on right now. Nashville is going to be pretty good. Okay. Let's see. Toronto. I just don't know if they got cap issues. Yeah. Chicago used to be my team. They kind of fell off a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to Toronto. Okay. Toronto is the Leafs year. Yeah. And basketball? Basketball, Denver. Okay. College? Yoakish. College basketball. It'll be a three P. UConn, baby. What about, what about college hockey? College hockey. Let's go Boston

university. Okay. What about Kentucky Derby? Kentucky Derby. I haven't got to that one just yet. Okay. All right. All right. That's where we got that. Yeah. Well, is, is, is, is, uh, is, is big Brown still running? I don't know. We'll find a horse for you. Baffert's back. Yeah. Yeah. We just got them all. We just went through them all. All right. Well, book, thank you so much, man. We always on that booger. Yeah. We always, yeah. Phillies, UConn, Denver lions. Uh, and what was the last one? Oh, We always yeah Phillies, Yukon, Denver Lions

And what was the last one? Oh and we're gonna say Nashville Yeah, no Leafs Leafs. All right five Toronto. Yeah, Toronto Imagine this would be the greatest. I mean, this would be the greatest clip of all time Boog Even if you go like three for five, yeah, you know ball. Yeah, yeah, you do know ball. All right, thanks so much, Book. Booker was brought to you by Chevy. There's a reason we've never done a Mount Rushmore pickup trucks. That's because for part of my take, there's only one pickup truck, the Chevy Silverado. Why is that? Silverado is a partner. It's a partner you can depend on. We've all spent time driving and using the Silverado for all kinds of part of my take jobs, adventures, and other

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There's no way the Raiders were treated me division. No, they won't that'd be crazy. He's a jet He's gonna be a jet. Okay FAQs Hank to wrap us up Would you stop talking to each other forever big cat and PFT if it meant the commies or the Bears became a dynasty like the Patriots for 20 years Why would we stop talking to each other? Just would you? Do we still be able to do the podcast? We just like we're like Mike and Mike everything to Hank if we just can't talk outside of the podcast Maybe the podcast would get better. I

Use all our gold on the outside. I would maybe answer yes in like 10 years. I would say no, because I think we're gonna do it. Jaden. There you go. Wait, what? I would say no, I wouldn't know. I would not have to worry about because I basically have that dynasty right now. I'm saying if I'm when I'm 50 years old, if there's been no progress I might take I might have to get desperate. Yeah, that's fair. Yeah Hey dunk Lockwood Oh fuck you're gonna make me commenter and getting less big and more trim cat Are we going to get in? I've been lifting four times a week. Are we gonna get another tattoo bet this year? Oh

tattoo bed, oh We did figure out dingers only. Oh yeah. That ended Ozuna did not go yard. Nope. On Monday so that means that Max will be pitching, I will be catching. Mm-hmm. Not excited about that. In fact I'm dreading that. Big time though downgrade for center fielder from Max to Brandon Walker. That's a huge downgrade. Are we sure it's gonna be Brandon? I think I just said it was okay Brandon Centerfield He's not gonna like running. I think Brandon will be in center. Maybe I'll be in right Hankin left

Jerry at first Jerry's gotta be on when do we there was no infielders? We had a full I will go for outfield. Yeah, Jerry. think that's fair with max out Jerry and Brynn and do equal one human. Yeah, that's that's fair Who should be the umpire this year then? Oh, yeah, Jerry could be umpire again I'm fine with three outfield. Can I say something that I'm not trying to say to make you look small? I know I was about to say it's gonna be tough. I'm gonna look very small in the catcher's outfit I'm not gonna give max a big target behind home plate So can I say can I propose an umpire not to make you look small, but it would maybe make you look small mm-hmm big T

That'd be very funny. Yeah Be good look He has an umpire's demeanor his life is lit like when he walks around the office he's an umpire's demeanor. His life is lit. Like when he walks around the office, he's an umpire. Yeah, he walks around thinking he's Angel Hernandez. I like that a lot. Okay.

So it's settled. I'll talk to Big T. Okay. Oh wait, what was the question? We still got to find a team at a place. Tattoo bed. Or a tattoo bed. I would do a tattoo bed. It would be, yeah, I guess we we could but it's not the same when

It's not a Thursday night game. Yes, the Thursday night game that made it special. We both were really bad bad teams I'd be if they have a Thursday night game. Oh tattoo bet per bet What would you get a tattoo of a meatball? I don't know that would be awesome If you had a meatball, maybe if you had a meatball as a teardrop definitely would not see that But it would be cool Definitely my right above the heart. Yeah, we'll see we'll see I Do it I do it for this this year's Bears commanders game or this year's commanders Eagles game. Oh, yeah, but both of those happen

Yeah, both those happen. All right, we'll figure it out Could you guys give a shout out to all the AWLs in North Carolina and dealing with the hurricane effects? Yes, it is like insane the videos. It's so tragic We have a shirt up. So Caleb Presley our colleague. He's from Asheville So he's got a mountain strong shirt that you can buy in the Barstool sports store 100% of the proceeds go to the food bank to help people in that area. But yeah, I have a friend who lives there. He's been telling me it's just like, it's heartbreaking. So we're thinking of everyone in Asheville. Yeah. Water is very scary. Yeah. When you deal with flash floods, if you don't see them, you don't think about how dangerous they are,

but then you see the videos that come out and you're like holy fuck these people lost everything and then down roads like you can't do anything yeah so yeah hunter again Mountain Strong shirts in the barstool store hundred percent of proceeds go to manna food bank in Western North Carolina hopefully we can just do you know even though it's a small part any part helps for the people in Asheville and in Western North Carolina hey guys what is your Mount Rushmore of athletes or sports personalities that you have got the best slash most content from since you started the show? Big Ben, Coach K, etc.

Yeah, Big Ben was where mine went initially. Coach K. Coach K. Lenny Dykstra maybe. JJ Watt. JJ. JJ Watt's a good one. Jameis, Jameis has to be on there.

Philip Rivers. Phil Rivers for sure. LeBron. I mean, LeBron has to be on there. Yeah. He has to be. Who else? That's a good question though.

Marlins man. Marlins man, noted athlete. Yeah. Fall ball guy Tommy Tommy Lasorda your Tommy your Tommy Hank Yeah, Oh Tom Brady others in Tommy, you know, but you know, that's good question Who's the most one who's under a okd? Katie's a big one

Really good question AWL Revelle that in Katie's a big one Really good question AWL Revelle that in Incredible athlete incredible athlete not your content Incredible athlete Steph Chris Paul Blake Griffin Chris Paul is a good one. Yeah Yeah, I'm thinking more like not people like almost people that have never been on the show right? Yeah, yeah tiger people we've never interviewed ever tiger not running it like Chris Paul. Yeah. Mm-hmm. What tiger for sure? Blake Yeah, yeah good one

That's it Phil Mickelson Bryson Bryson yeah, bright top tier one. We should save this for Mount Rushmore season. Yeah, cuz it's just like there's some people that you know Flashes in the pan. Yeah Remember we should just do this amount rush. He's been forever Tom Brady's been forever. This is a good Mount Rushmore Flacco like portals. Yeah Okay, good show boys We will see everyone Friday

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