Pardon My Take - Booger McFarland, Stavros Halkias, The 2023 Bonk List And Dan Quinn To The Commanders

Episode Date: February 2, 2024

Dan Quinn is the New Coach in Washington and PFT is convincing himself it’s a great hire (00:00:00-00:24:33). The 2023 Bonk List is ready to be revealed (00:24:33-00:47:10). Booger McFarland joins the show to talk Super Bowl, what it’s like playing in a Super Bowl and more (00:47:10-01:30:40). Stavros Halkias joins us after locking himself in his house for 4 days to tell us how he’s doing after the Ravens loss Sunday and it’s a must listen (01:30:40-01:54:03). We finish with Fyre Fest of the week (01:54:03-02:14:40).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen, ad-free on Amazon Music. On today's part in my take, we've got a twofer for the people. We got a good friend, Boog, Booger McFarland talking about what it's like playing in a Super Bowl, talking about the playoffs, a little draft talk, great catching up with him. And then we have our good friend, Stavros Halkias on, which I'm gonna say right now is must listen because Stav, Die Hard Ravens fan, has basically been in a hole since Sunday, has not done any media, has not talked to anyone. So we got basically his instant reactions after also

just so you know, he yelled very loud a couple times. So he was yelling so loud that his own AirPods couldn't handle it. It was great though. It was like pure, uncut stave. Yeah, his genuine reaction. And just it's a lot of rage. It's a lot of coping. But it's it's pleasant to listen to it. It's it's exactly what if the AWLs when they love when one of our teams loses and you get to drink our tears, that's exactly what you get to do with Stav, especially if you're a chiefs fan, you're going to really love this one.

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no place to hang alone washing and then I can't stay all on the sun oh no we're gonna rock it down to electric I renew and then we'll take it higher oh we're gonna rock it down to electric It's a part of my take. There's enough of our sports. Welcome to part of my take. Today is Friday, February 2nd and PFT has a new coach. All right. Dan Quinn, baby.

So he was number one on my big board and ladies and gentlemen we got him. Yeah so you'll get the actual instant reaction because the news broke while we were interviewing Burger McFarland but PFT you've now had a couple hours to process. A couple people in this room have been very mean to you. Yes. There's only two other people in this room. Very mean. Well no counting the booth as well. Hank's been very mean to me, Max has been very mean to me, memes is just always mean to me so I don't I don't think that that has anything to do with the coach Jake of course has been polite but yeah Max and Hank are a bunch of haters and Max out

of all the people in this room Max should be ecstatic about Dan Quinn because at the very least the Cowboys defense is gonna get worse right yep that's exactly what I was thinking and so if we get better and the Cowboys defense is gonna get worse, right? Yep, that's exactly what I was thinking. And so if we get better and the Cowboys defense gets worse, I think that's a win-win for both me and you. It's a quink-quin. Quink-quin all around. Sure, sure.

That's good for me. Suck my dick, Max. I did see there was a release, a statement released. A tradition. After, yep, put it on the bonk list coming up in a second, I saw, and a statement that was released after the hiring, it reads, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha stand-up act like. Oh, got him. I think it's Hank. I think that was actually that was Hank. That was Henry Lockwood. He did a lot of haze. Maybe too many. Not enough, I think.

That was I was trying to tweet what I was feeling. Why are you so fired up about this? Because I listened here and said, you go Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson, and he Ben Johnson. You tweeted at him every day, everything the lines did, you're like, ooh, Ben Johnson. I never tweeted at Ben Johnson. I'm all in on Ben Johnson. It's called X. Then you didn't get Ben Johnson.

He literally turned you down, would have gotten more money to be a head coach and said, I don't want to be coached for your shitty franchise. I want to win a Super Bowl, insinuating that there's zero chance that would ever even possibly happen in Washington. Meanwhile, he works for the biggest loser franchise in NFL history, and he still- Thanks going off. ...doesn't want to work for Washington.

NFC championship game participant. And as we discussed, Dan Campbell got in his ear. Then- ...he was up his heart. You were like, Oh, well, I'm all in on Belichick. I want Belichick just to rub it in your face. You didn't have to do that.

You didn't have to go out of your way to say, I want Belichick just to get met, just to rub it in your face. You brought me into a situation that I had no involvement in. Where are you looking at, big cat? Look at me. And you didn't have to go out of your way to say I want Pellecek just just to get just to rub it in your face You brought me into a situation that I had no involvement in where you're looking at big cat Look at me and you didn't get him either. You got a coach who has been to a Super Bowl So that's good. Oh, okay, so I have a cost what happened That's a good code Super Bowl this is my hire. Where they've lost. I would like to address it.

One year, nine years ago today, 2014 Seahawks. Okay, so let's talk about Dan Quinn for a second because he's an elite defensive coordinator. We know that. That's why that's that. That was a good laugh. He should be a three-time Super Bowl champion. He won one Super Bowl. He lost to Hank's Patriots not because of his defense, but because of not handing the ball to

Marshall on Lynch on the two yard line. And then obviously, again against Hank's Patriots, he didn't lose that Super Bowl. Kyle Shanahan lost that Super Bowl Super Bowl for the power. They were up. They were up 28 to three. And he was the head coach. He was the head coach. So he should be a three time Super Bowl champion. Just let me cope. Okay. Can I cope? I just need like a day to cope. Wait, just looking back real quick, cause the March on Lynch thing, he did his

defense dig about 14 points in the fourth quarter in the Super Bowl. Yeah, that's true. That might be, that might be accurate. I'll have to go back and look at the box score. But you were at that game. That was his call to hand the ball off or. I don't know. You probably could have set over the headset. Don't do this. Print it out onto the field. Russell you piece of

shit hand the ball off. Please don't do this. People are you know calling them a retread. Retreads run the world. Okay. Retreads you say that in 2024. Sorry our treads. Mm-hmm. Run the world. Okay. Absolutely retreads. Yes. And here's the thing about retreads in the NFL. Gary Kubiak, John Gruden, Bill Parcells, Tony Dungey, Tom Coughlin, Pete Carroll, Andy Reed, Mike Shanahan, Don Chula, Bill Belichick was retread when he was hired by the New England Patriots. Dan Quinn years old, second stop, second stop, he's going to figure it out. How old

is he? He's physical. He's a physical man. I think he's 53. You just put Gary Kubiak in the same 53. He got too super bowl. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, you got too super bowl with the Broncos. She's gone Pete Carroll. I should I could narrow that down John Gruden. Actually, let me narrow that down. That was going against what you were saying. Everybody that I just mentioned on that list except for Gary Kubiak. Yeah, and now Dan Quinn It's Godfather 2 was better than the first one. That's a fact. Wayne's World 2 was worse. Sorry Iraq I'll help you there Iraq War 2. Yeah, World War 2 kicked ass. It did. Yeah. It was really great

We were the winners fucking beat the fuck out of the Nazis. We did yeah if it wasn't for us the Germans be speaking Russian right now. Mm-hmm. Let's think about that Hank You think about that? I've been I've listened Pft. I'm supporting you Dan Quinn rocks backwards hat rocks. Yep plays good defense football guy through and through leader of men he is and all his players love him. NFC champion champion all his players love him. Michael Parsons said like if he goes maybe I'll go with him. Oh so maybe we'll get Michael Parsons. I have a question.

Yeah going into this search what tier would you have put Dan Quinn at on your wishlist? I don't think you would have mentioned his name. Tier one. I think he actually said the other day, please don't have it be Dan Quinn. I don't recall saying that. There were so many names that were thrown out here on this show for the commander's next head coach and I don't think one of them was Dan Quinn.

Here's another thing, we have a rookie GM, right? He helped to assemble the San Francisco 49ers entire roster. Now he's our general manager. Rookie GM, I think you'd probably want an experienced head coach, not a rookie head coach that doesn't know how this whole thing's wrong. Good thing there weren't any other experienced head coaches on the market.

Well, there weren't any, there weren't any. That had been head coaches more recently. There weren't any. And better at it. All the ones that were on the market wanted control. One roster control. Do you know that for a fact? Rable? Rable's a control guy, yeah. You confirm that?

No, he's a control guy. I think he's a go with the flow guy. He's a players coach. Yeah. Well, the reason why he butted heads in Tennessee was because they tried to take control away. Pete Carroll? I don't know of all his good players.

Pete Carroll wanted control? I don't know. I didn't talk to Pete Carroll personally. Nick Saban wanted control? Nick Saban did want control, yes. Okay. Okay. I talked to know. I didn't I didn't talk to Pete Carroll personally. Nick Saban wanted control? Nick Saban did want control, yes. Okay. Okay. I talked to Nick.

Okay. Well, PFT you're defending Dan Quinn right now. We actually have a clip from the interview with Pete Prisco where you maybe weren't such a big fan. Oh no, we gotta probably play that. Yeah, I actually have it loaded. Oh, wow. Someone actually they did the work here. And Quinn go back to Seattle. I think probably, but but you have to like at least if you're the work here and Queen go back to Seattle

I think probably but but you have to like at least if you're the Seahawks you have to have a little bit of concern after that Playoff game I know it's one game and you can't really judge that based you know on the body of evidence that he's done in Dallas But it would make me think like maybe yeah, maybe we should interview a couple other guys. I stand by that There's a bad playoff game. Okay, But I think he- That wasn't a damning clip. He got a little bit of the Cowboys in him in that playoff game. Yeah. And you know, you can look at what he's done in the last two seasons in Dallas. He's awesome. Dan Quinn's awesome. Hap backwards.

Is there a part of you Hank that is lashing out like this because you just lost your defensive coordinator? Good question. Yeah, I don't know what the Cowboys are doing. Uh. Oh, I know what they're doing. They're actually gonna interview Ron Rivera If I'm Jerry Jones I am finding a way to get Belichick variable in P. Carol on the same staff. Oh, you're trying your Saban. You're assembling the movie old dogs. Yeah Yeah, I would be saying there should be on it as well. I don't know if he was in that movie

But it sounds like it could be. He probably liked it. Yeah. He probably was like, damn, I should have thought of this first. Yeah. But yeah, they, keeping my McCarthy's insane with all these other coaches just not coaching next year.

Okay, so can I be honest? You won't be the coach by like October. Permission to be honest. Yes. Danquin was not in my first tier of Desired Coaches. There were some other names that have been thrown out there What about tier two looking forward to I didn't do a tier two I just had a tier one, but if you were to retroactively number one back

He was tier one of tier two. I think there was tier two. I think there was it was Ben Johnson tier one and Then Bella check No, I think but here's Ben Johnson and slow work were tier one I remember you saying Johnson or so. Okay. Well. No more your two is Bella check rainbow Was We'll give you Dan three. Yeah. Yeah, we'll give you tier three. All right, so for was Dan. He was tier one of tier two That's where he was on my list Not a very exciting hire. I'll say that now I'm I did a symbol of tier one But you have to take into account the fact that I am very dumb and I have some extremely bad football takes

So if you were me and you were running an NFL franchise There's no confidence there like I would be very very bad at running so you don't sell yourself short Wait, so you might have been the reason why they hired Dan Quinn you'd be great no they were no no you and they're like PFT wants Ben Johnson and Bobby slow it's no bell check we can't do that if it were up to me every single play would be like three downfield laterals followed by a 65 yard field goal right so you should not and Johnson probably could draw that up you should not listen to my opinions when it comes to football and I had the opinion that I wanted Ben Johnson.

My opinion is probably incorrect. Got it. I did not want Dan Quinn in my first year. Got it. So therefore, it's like George Costanza, the reverse of everything he wants to do is right. I think he's a good football coach. I think he's a leader in men.

I think he's a great defensive coordinator. And I think he's going into a stable addition of the Washington franchise which we haven't seen in a very long time and I have no choice but to just let's get a fucking Quinn's erection going on DC. Okay. Let's do it. So he's going to coach up Drake May or Jaden Daniels. We're going to get a good coordinator for that.

Yeah. And we do have some good coordinator options. I heard a Kubiak's name being thrown around and we know the history with the Kubiak coach. Yeah, they were on that list. They were fantastic. Great, great bloodline. What about Ben Johnson? Well, Ben Johnson could do it. Yeah. We discussed this with Booger when it happens, but in a way, now the graphic, I might have defeated the graphic, where now it's Atlanta Falcons, former coaches on that one coaching staff. And you've got Dan Quinn who's now a head coach, plus all those other guys that were in Washington that were also on Kyle's staff.

So now it's like that Falcons team, can you believe that team never won a Super Bowl? Yeah, that was crazy. That was crazy. I can't believe that. That was nuts. Mike McDonald was also above Dan Quinn on these tours. Oh yeah, that's right. I forgot about Mike McDonald.

He had the dream. He had the dream. Yeah, he had the dream. Yeah, he had the dream. Because you do take credit when your dreams come true. That's fair. So you gotta also take the opposite when they don't. This was a incorrect dream, hand up, but that's not me, that's my dream.

But when your dream is right, you get credit for it. I think my dreams are three in one now. I was with you when you found out that Mike McDonald was going to the Seahawks. I don't think you were too happy about that. Yeah. It's whatever, whatever. Just, I-

Stay tuned if you're watching the YouTube to see his face when he sees- Drop. The news, it's great. I thought about that after the fact, and I'm pretty sure I heard the news, and then I looked down, I took like a deep breath, and I was like, okay, I'm back.

He was like, Jerry Maguire, when they show him getting married, and he has that face, he's like, I don't, okay, I'm back. He was like, Jerry Maguire, when they show him getting married and he has that face. He's like, I don't know if I wanna do this. Or like an actor getting into character. Yeah. But guess what, that's my character. I just, I changed myself. I'm a Dan Quinn guy.

I do think that it's gonna, he's a solid hire. We've had him on the show, right? No, we've talked to him. Oh, that's right. We gotta get him on the show now. Yeah. Maybe we'll get him on the show in the combine. So be. Send him to the program. Soupy. Yeah we'll talk to him at the Super Bowl next year

when he's in it. You think it's soupy. I'm not I it's too early to say soupy. I don't want to put that pressure on Dan. Let's not put that pressure on Dan. Let's wait till they go it was like three and one. Yeah and then soupy. Yeah. I think it was two and oh. Yeah. But if we'd gone three and one. They're lost in the bears. Then it would be soupy. Yeah. Listen I. Was that the perm bet? I am a fan. No it was the-0. Yeah. But if we'd gone through one, We'd lost the Bears. Then it would be super. Yeah. Listen, I- Was that the perm bet?

I am a fan- No, it was the tattoo bet. He's got it right there. I'm a fan of some bad teams. So just let me process this and figure out ways where I can convince myself that the future's gonna be better. Just- Don't let Hank do this to you.

Don't let Max do this to you. Don't let Max do this to you. Nick Sirani sucks. He does suck. Jorad Mayo was like, they just hired the guy who was just happened to be there and had Belichick's playbook. You wish you had a leader of men, Max. Me and PFT, we got great defensive coordinators

as our head coach. You know what? We have a great defensive players as our head coach. Old school football work. Yeah. Stop the run, run the football. Yeah. We have guys that are better suited a great defensive player as our head coach. Old school football works. Yeah. Stop the run, run the football. Yeah, we have guys that are better suited for a different job as our head coaches.

Yeah, I, we have great defensive coordinators. Rookie quarterbacks coming in. I actually think that if the Bears and the commanders were in the playoffs this year, we could have done some damage. Damage. We're built for January. Damage.

By the way, I saw Vic Fangio, there was a headline that Vic Fangio, it was like, Miami players were got caught in like the Miami scene and weren't focused on football. And I read it so quickly, I thought it was Vic Fangio got caught in the Miami scene and it ruled for like those 10 seconds that my brain couldn't catch up. I was like, imagine Vic Fangio. Yeah, the hard.

It's out on South Beach being like, that's why their defense fell apart. Maybe got caught up in like the hardcore shuffleboard scene in there like bingo halls. So yeah, all right, listen, we're all in the up and up. Yeah, I basically got a three-time Super Bowl champion as my head coach, so I'm happy with that. Yeah, all right, what else before we do the bonk list? I did see, I'm actually, I'm gonna change the take.

I liked the NBA doing the MVP rules for, you know, you have to play 65 games. We're now finding out there might be some unintended consequence. Well, there's some really good players out there that are, I guess they're injured or scared to play some games. And then they're not gonna be eligible

for the MVP at the end of the year. Correct. So, well, Joe Embi did get, he was out on Saturday, he was out on Monday, and then he tried to play on Wednesday and got re-injured. This is your guy's fault. And so, people are saying he was trying to play because he wants to reach the amount of games

to get the MVP. There might be some unintended consequences. But MVP's pretty important, right? Like when you win the MVP, you usually win the NBA finals. You guys aren't allowed to do this. I'm not, I'm stopping this right now. You're not allowed to do this. Who shows this?

Because you just, the whole time against Jokic, you said he ducked because he wasn't hurt and he just didn't want to play Jokic. And now you're saying, oh, he should have never played. All right, so what's up with the other? It's gotta be one or the other. Sorry, man. It's gotta be one or the other.

He might be right, he might be right. Did you see Max did a Villanova podcast? Did he really? All in Max, it's crazy. He squashed the beef with me and Alan Wright, Nova Legend, shout out Rain and Threes. They're gonna be real pumped. Was Alan Ray the guy who got his eye popped out?

Yes, yeah. Yeah, that's an all time picture. He called me a clown for saying that I wanted Kyle Neptune fired, and then there was a big, there was a beef and then he asked me to come on the show. Love that. I like that.

He understands how the podcast ecosystem works. Yeah. You're like, you call someone a clown and then you bring them on your show to refute the clown allegations. Yeah, now we're friends. So you're no longer a clown. No longer a clown.

Yeah, no, now we're friends. Now did you go on the show and tuck your tail between your legs and be like, hey, y'all and Ray, I just like to be friends with you because you're a legend? Or were you like, why did you call me clown? Did you hash that out? I mean, we hashed it out, but I still said that I think

Kyle and Neptune should be fired. No, and I definitely didn't do that. I know you weren't as heated as you stand on business. No, I was a professional. I was just talking Nova Hoops. I did watch a clip and Max, for anyone who ever accuses Max of doing a shtick, he told a very funny story that the day that Jay Wright retired, Max was going on his third

date with his current girlfriend and he like met her at a restaurant and was like, listen, I just want to let you know I've had the worst day of my life and the vibes might be off for this date. So that is who he is, through and through. Yeah. And then I was talking to my girlfriend about it later. Later, that night ended, it was a Sixers playoff game and then we went to a sports bar and Joellen Bede hit like a, it was the first round.

So we hit like a shot to put it into overtime and I was just at another table because there were Sixers fans. So I was just watching the game at another table. See, that's good. This is how good relationships start. So you set the precedent. Itents, like if you're gonna, if you're getting, if you love to golf

and you like get a girlfriend, like make sure you golf a lot so she knows what to expect. I was also wearing a Sixers windbreaker to the date. Oh, nice, classy. It was a Sixers playoff game. But yeah, she was like, oh yeah, I remember that well, you were a lunatic.

Well, they let, you can wear a Sixers windbreaker to a quiz nose, that's no problem. It was some nice Korean barbecue place. Oh, okay. Max doing podcasts, means doing stand up, pugs sitting courtside, or the pugs going Hollywood. Yeah, all the boys are going Hollywood. Pug was courtside of the Seton Hall DePaul game,

which I think they paid him to sit that close. It was a good look though. They were right behind the camera, making some funny faces. It's just pug. Yeah, good clean pug. Just love pug. Pug life.

All right, anything else in the sports world? We're obviously gearing up for the Super Bowl. By the way, Monday we have a very big guest. So get excited, get very excited. We got some great Super Bowl content coming. Anything else before we do bonkers? There was a- Louis Hamilton? Oh yeah, Louis Hamilton. Oh yeah Lewis Hamilton.

Ferrari's back. Ferrari Dan's back. Liv PGA merged. Essentially. There's some other stuff going on too with them. I can't get track of all of them. I mean it's not a done deal. There's regulations and shit. There was an unfortunate picture of Patrick Mahomes that came out. Yeah that was... He was upset. He said they did him dirty.

He was rocking the dad bod. He had a little bit of a pouch. I think it's good if your quarterback's a little bit chunky, a little bit fat. It's natural padding, it absorbs some of the hits. Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, these guys weren't in the best shape. It's all about pliability.

Pliability, exactly. Lamar- Lamar Jackson should get fat. Did you see that clip, by the way, of talking about pliability? Someone did a clip of Patrick Mahomes like off season workouts and he was doing the exact same like knee bends that he did in that sack where it looked like he was going to tear both his legs and he like got out of it.

That's all, you know, you got to practice it. It's all pliability, baby. Yeah, pliability. Yeah, no, that was a, that was a fucked up picture. But yeah, Lewis Hamilton in the Ferrari is gonna be huge. Yeah. I really wish I hadn't gotten into F1 because someone tweeted me, they're like,

Ferrari likes to bring on former champions so it can remind them that they once were champions. And that hurt my feelings, even though I like, why am I a Ferrari fan? I can't remember. I think it was just, the red car, the red car. And it was cool to just wear the Ferrari logo. Yeah, the red car. It's the red car. People think that am I a Ferrari fan? I can't remember. I think I think the red car It was cool to just wear the Ferrari. Yeah, the red car It's a red car people think that you own a Ferrari knows the guy and drives to survive when he's like when you ask a little kid to

Draw a car. What color is it red? Mm-hmm. I was like, yeah, it makes sense. That's fucking rocks. I'm in a Ferrari guy Listen, there's no sir sir Lewis Hamilton There's no sport that I like to pretend to be interested in for like, I don't know, maybe a second every week when it's in season There's no sport more important in that category to me than F1. Yeah, I don't even think I'm at a second anymore I'm like negative seconds negative seconds. Yeah, that's how fast I am off the start. Yeah, it's crazy one. Yeah Katelyn Clark was was playing in Evanston last night. We didn't go Whoops tickets are very expensive. How expensive?

Very expensive. Let me know when Sabrina UNSQ is coming to come out again Sabrina UNSQ By the way, that's the other thing World once football ends. We're gonna be getting into basketball. We have a NBA preview we're taping with Ryan Russel during Super Bowl week so that'll be great. I watch college basketball every night. Chris Collins ejection ruled. I don't know if you guys saw it but he got ejected and he like did the meme like I want to shake your hands or stopped and went and shook produce coach that why is his name Matt Painter he's a loser shook his hand and Zach Edie and Zach Edie and then left up the crowd yeah I

did a breakdown I'm like Purdue is by the way so prime for classic Purdue it's gonna happen again it's I know that I shouldn't be saying this because the Badgers I think play them for the first time this weekend but they're they're primed yeah I actually think Zach Edie just doesn't want to play basketball anymore yeah he's just so tall he's so tall I've just been taking his over points Yeah, I actually think Zach Eadie just doesn't want to play basketball anymore. Yeah He's just so tall. He's so tall. I've just been taking his over points and rebounds every game. He's big He's a large man general admission was 230 yesterday shit. We should have gone 230 yeah 230 people dollars. Oh, okay. Yeah. All right, of course it was let's do before we do the bonk list our friends from Topgolf are back.

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bonk list. This is every time that Hank has decided we have said something horny on the show and therefore got bonked. It's kind of a nice trip down memory lane of the past year. Yeah. And there's usually one or two things that Hank puts on this list that aren't horny, but Hank's, and he interprets them as being horny. So it's the reverse bonk list.

Which it will make Hank, that actually goes on your list. Yeah. What are we going to put you down for this last month, Hank? Do I have to... The entire month on the bonk list? Maybe going out to Dallas? We're going to get into the origin story on this list. Oh, no, okay? I

Have not been making one for this year. I also because the first year I did it in secret That was kind of the whole mm-hmm joke and then I revealed it And so I thought it might be jumping the shark because sometimes you guys are aware you're saying no But make the bonk list you got under so I I didn't I wasn't as intensive this year Okay, so you know, it was a nice way I just saying you just did your job. Oh, I have I have I have them here, but you realize there was a classic Billy football Yeah, you realize that it's still in secret because we can't remember what we said yesterday. All right, so I need to do one this year

Yes, I have a partial list. Okay. Nice. You can you can add to it, but there's no You could tell me Jake like It means that I think I was supposed to back you up and I stopped after February. He's got a similar So you have a two-month list. Yeah, I see that that's where I'd like that's Billy Yeah, sounds like you weren't yeah, you weren't no you're you're that's what you're doing right now is Billy Because you're blaming Jake for not doing a good enough job Of doing your job for him. I did it. I did my job. I didn't stop in February Okay, but you also were because it was in secret and you don't want to do it so obvious you stopped

No, I just didn't realize like again the first bonkers was all me You didn't ask me the assignment. I was like there's something I'm gonna do so it'll be funny I thought that the the shine wore off a little bit. No, and it wouldn't be a year. No, there's no shine wearing off He did it one time to great commercial and critical acclaim and he's like, I don't want to it might not sell us doing it Yeah, I'm not a seller. I want to be a CVT jump the shark one time only Starting off hot. I don't know the context for this and I don't think this is true Maybe it is. I don't know the first entry one six twenty two is just Billy fucked a milf at the airport on New Year's Eve Oh, I don't remember any that

Me neither. I'm not this is allegedly I guess we'll throw allegedly in there. Okay. Yeah, throw allegedly There's no context. I don't know maybe backup backup boy He got delayed at the airport that was oh, and we probably like you're you fuck. Yeah. Yeah, all right. Yeah, that makes sense 1 6 January 6th PFT asked me if I had a squirter in my bed. Okay January PFT says major tutty needs a bigger bigger ass. That's he does. The pig mascot is not he's not packing anything. January 15th big cat calls Daniel Jones hot. Oh, it's the jawline picture. Okay. Remember that in the playoff game? Yeah, yeah, yeah, he showed him and it was like his jaw was so chiseled. He was hot. January PFT calls

the neck concussion thing a cock ring for your neck. Yep. Yeah, which I was blood up there I was proven correct on that. Yeah, same science And I think you also told us that you put on a cock ring. I yeah, I admitted to my life I work cock ring during intercourse. Yes Grats on the sex thanks January still PFT has Julien Edelman if he's ever hung out with Jules who works on Inside the NFL just because they have the same name. Okay.

Who's Jules? I think producer. Who works on Inside the NFL. Is that a public figure? Backup boy. I think Julian mentioned Jules. I have. That's all I have.

It was from the January 27th Julian Edelman interview. Oh! Wait, no, that might not be her. There's an NFL Jules. That's a fair bonk. I think Julian Edelman brought her up several times and then I, as a journalist, I inquired. Got it. Okay.

PFT says the first thing he would do as mayor of Cincinnati would check out the Nancy Regan files, first things first, then the Harambe tape. True. Okay. 131, PFT makes up a fact about the Super Bowl having the most Johnson's in it. Okay. That's not really bonk. I'm observing things.

I wish I had more context for these and I might have messed up the grammar when I hit it. Who should be blamed for that? It's my fault. This is exactly what I did the first year, so shut the fuck up, because it's exactly what I did the first time. So there's no one to blame. I just... ... Jake brought a rosin bag and it was great because it made the holes tight and helped that they would never slip out. Yeah, for the bowling punishment.

Oh yeah. Yeah. That was a year ago yesterday on your birthday, PFC. Yeah. Thanks, sir. He didn't say happy birthday, he said on your birthday. So thanks. I said.

No, no, I'm saying right then. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He said on your birthday. February now, Big Cat said a guy hit me last night, and I almost had to skull fuck him When was that in regards to Pete Weber not playing in the US open? Oh, yeah, there's a guy had called. Yeah Yeah, I did. Oh, wait. No, we already talked to him. Yeah, remember he we tried I think I think we were actually played in the qualifying this year So I think you might be back to skull fucking works. Yeah, so we did it

February 2nd big cat decided to have another kid. Yep, okay, fair. Big Cat told Jake his mom was hot. If you're that hot, you have to have four kids. Mm, yeah. You guys have done that a few times on my time on the show. In our defense, she's hot.

I don't really know what you want to say Comes up like every six months And she swears that she took my heart when she swore in front of me She's like I don't know why Jake doesn't fucking swear and I was like god damn it February 5th PFT quote it's bad to go all the way in sometimes just the tip is better Talking about the Nets trade after a Kyrie I'm going to fall in. Oh, I heard a crazy stat today. Did you see they did all the way in sometimes just the tip is better talking about the Nets trade after a Kyrie Okay, and oh I heard a crazy stat today. Did you see they did by the way? The they did a tribute video for Katie. Yeah, they Katie asked them not not to you still did but here This is a crazy stat right now the big three on the Suns

Beal Booker and Katie have played more games together than the big three of us ever did. Yeah, I believe it. Isn't that crazy? They never played. That's insane. Because remember Kyrie missed an entire year, then James Harden got hurt, then he won and traded. It's crazy.

Okay. PFT asked JJ Watt what his wife's at is. Okay. Fair. Big Cat says to JJ Watt, you can always just throw a nut in him to slow him down. Oh, that's about TJ. Talking about TJ Watt. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, he does have a nut allergy. That's more of a bonk on you. I mean, you told the guy you can always throw a nut in him to slow him down. But it's factual. I hear both sides of this. I want to fuck the AI chatbot. Which one of you said that? PFT had that for a micro.

I was asking them. Oh, I thought you didn't have it. I did. The Microsoft one. Oh, yeah. No, the Microsoft AI chatbot is a baddie. Yeah. She's cool. How about the girl on the train? You ever see that one? The movie? No.

The AI. I read that book. Oh, okay. That's the only book I've ever read. No one knows the train. I just wanted to say that I read that book. Credit to Max. Read that book.

There's like a picture of a girl on a train. She's so fucking hot. Oh, yeah. Yeah, but she's like,'ve ever read. No one knows the train. I just wanted to say that I read that book. Credit to Max, read that book. There's like a picture of a girl on a train. She's so fucking hot. Oh, yeah. Yeah, but she's AI. Yeah, tried out my alley. Yeah.

Mark Titus thinks it's a bonk when Big Cat said, I have a box for you. That's on Mark. Mark's a horny motherfucker. That's one thing I've learned the last six months working with him. The dude is rocked up all the time. Yeah, he walks around the office with an erection. He says, sorry, excuse me, hot erection coming through.

That's why nobody wants to guard him. That's why he's so good at basketball. Spoken you with his boner. PFT makes up a pineapple trophy in college basketball. Okay, swingers. I think there was pineapple trophies. The CBI, the CBI has golden pineapple trophies. Thank you, Jake. Learned ball, Hank. All right.

Biketta, he would fuck Sister Jean. Yep, I would. For the stories. PFT says he would fuck Princeton Stadium. Okay. Oh, I would too. That at that that basketball court is sick Jake says he loves sitters when talking about basketball wedgies. Oh Yeah, they are at first. They turn it was magical. Yeah big cat says mrs. K would look great in sweaters comma sweater puppies

Yeah PFT calls Russell Raw. What? Whoa. PFT calls Russell Westbrook a good looking guy. He is good looking guy. Yeah, that's just guy supporting guys. PFT says Casey Anthony, hate to watch her go but love to watch her leave. Facts. Yep. Yeah. Umper. PFT says he loves fucking our cheese steak fries. Yep. PFT says he loves fucking our cheese steak fries. Yep. PFT says he wants to watch John Madden and Dolly Parton. Fuck.

In heaven. As king and queen. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. She's not in heaven. Yeah, she's not in heaven, but yes, don't kill her. Don't kill her.

Uh, take it back. She should be queen though. She should be queen of America. Yeah. Billy thought Tiana Taylor was Tiana Trump. Okay. That makes sense. Martha Stewart is the definition of baddie, big cat. I want to suck a fart out of her ass

and spit it in PFT's mouth. She's so hot, I don't care. What is she like, 80? Yeah, and she's done hard time. Yeah. My mom loves Martha Stewart. So do I. There's a picture like in my house It's it's all family pictures and then me and Martha Stewart when we did her for the court

Yeah, it's like so I didn't realize how big of a fan she was hot as fuck Who's back of the week breasts PFT commenter? Okay? PFT wants to see Ricky stick his throat down Allison stoke after the Ryder Cup Yeah, because he didn't get that kiss after the Ryder Cup in that old picture. So I would like to see him have a redemption story. Big Cat thinks Lane Kiffin's super hot. He is, he's lost a lot of weight, he's gotten hot. He's always got a tan and like, I don't know.

Some of all Lane Kiffin just tells it for me. Yeah, he has definitely worked himself back into shape. Remember when I said that, when he came on last time and I was like, you look good, you look like you've lost weight. And he's like, that's a weird thing to say to another guy. I think he kind of liked it. He's playing hard to get.

No one's ever talked to him like that before. It's more where that came from, Lane. This is August, Big Cat tweeted this out a video and the caption was slaply going next level. It was literally just a video of ass is getting slapped. And in slow motion. Yep, I know that video. It's awesome.

Big Cat said Jackie's ass was out and she has a dunk on the day of JFK's assassination. She was, she does, she's got a fucking dumper. She knew what she was wearing. Yeah, how do you think she got that fucking rich Greek guy to marry her? Yeah. September 8th.

She had that old dude Zapruder. She was like, hey, just make sure to film me when we're going down the highway because I've got it all hanging out. It's actually a thirst trap. Yeah. If my husband's brains get blown out, just make sure you get that ass shot. Hey, John, you know, there's going to be some cameras out on the parade route today.

Let's pull the top down on the third of all. Do you actually can see that she has the heel move that that girls do to show their ass she had her heel up Let's play guess who tweeted this okay? Every time I'm in an airport. I've got my head on a swivel to see if Tiffany Gomez is there too. I Think that was me. Yeah, you have to interesting. Yeah a lot of tweets to Tiffany Gomez interesting, okay? This trying to get around the show. Yeah, she's stiff. She sent me a very nice birthday text by the way. That's nice very nice I Just wrote down Lauren Bobert. Oh, yeah the video. Yeah. Oh my god. That was a hot. It was so good

I'm gonna watch you again. It was it was getting felt up Yeah, it was she was vaping and people were getting upset at her because yeah, there was maybe some little kids around But hot is hot and it was a first date she's freaky like that yeah and then she was when she was walking out she's making sure to pass by the security cameras yeah dumping them out a little bit she's hot she's hot as fuck big cat says he would watch Tyreek Hill in a porno would big cat says he needs to see a penis and vagina in order to believe Travis and Taylor that doesn't sound like me.

I don't remember that. You don't remember that at all. You're sick for making that up. Can we make a clip of that and just cut out my part, the big cat part? Say it again? Big Cat says he needs to see P and V in order to believe that Travis and Taylor are real. I don't remember any of that. So did I say I need to? Yeah. So then that's the quote. So then that's the quote. Big Cat, I'm just reading any of that. So did I say I need to?

Yeah. So then that's the quote. Big Cat, I'm just reading what I wrote. Oh yeah, but what the quote is. The quote that I wrote to quote my notes. It says Big Cat says he needs to see a PNV owner. No, no, no, you say the I need to. That's what you said.

No, but you should, as a quote, I said I need to. You did say that, right. So you should say the quote. No, you said it. But say the full full quote which is I need to see P and V with Taylor and and Travis all right that's the quote okay wait I but big cat right big cat says he needs to see P and V in order to believe Travis and Taylor PFT challenges Miley to a private debate yeah yep. Yep. Don't know the context for this one.

Jesus, stop talking to me. PFT thinks it's hot, Bride's dress got ripped. Hmm, who is that from? October. Okay. PFT says he's going to get in the sister jeans box. Okay. Yep.

And then my last entry which was Thanksgiving was Big Cat says Dolly Parton still has it. She still does. It's just respect Oh, was that that was at her performance on Thanksgiving So we haven't said anything bad in the last two months Hank at all Yeah, I'm a little in December This is interesting because I just found this clip from part of my take the podcast and that looks like Hank right there Okay, I believe and I need to see P&V in my Take the podcast and that looks like Hank right there. Okay. I believe. I need to see P and V in order to believe

Taylor and Travis are real. Oh, Hank. Why would you say that about Taylor? I was quoting Big Cat. That's extremely misogynistic of you. Well, how so? Because you just said it in a way that made me think that you're horny for wanting to see your vagina,

when she does not consent to that. I didn't say vagina. I got one. Hank said that Midway and O'Hare are four hours apart so that he could stay an extra day at Tiffany Gomez's house. Oh yeah, that's a good one. I have a few more. It was during football.

Oh, okay. January 3rd, Hank imagining Big Cat giving head to a hose. Maybe because you're talking about like hose water. Okay. Okay. PFT called George Kittle's 100-year-old grandma good-looking. Okay, respect. Cheers. Yeah, for sure. Good genes. And then lastly, Hank likes the K-Adams show.

Oh, yeah. You watch every episode. Gaslight Central, okay. No, no, no. We had an entire day at the combine. I have never watched watch every episode. Gaslight Central, okay. No, no, no, no. We had an entire day at the combine. I have never watched your second episode. You're walking through the entire rundown of the K-Adams show. All of K-Adams show.

That's a fact. Oh man, the gaslighting's crazy. No, but you did. You said that. You're like, K-Adams? Oh, we should get her on. I love her show. I watch it every day.

Okay, yeah, sure. You don't think he you said that I know I didn't say that remember when Stu made the video of him being The suitcase yeah that that video that was last year at the Super Bowl right? That's just super all-time video. Yeah, we're trying to close for suitcase. She's lovely the show is great I just don't watch every day, but maybe so you watch it most days I See clips on Twitter occasionally, okay The algorithm gets that for you. Yeah. You watch one, keep going. I was a good bonkless Hank. Yeah. Thank you. Until the last two months. Yeah. So are you starting this years? I will

now. Okay. Maybe with context. You want to start off? No, shut the no. I bookmark. You make your own bonkless buddy. I book I bookmarked the Sydney Sweeney you put that on there You don't listen to it again I'm not familiar with the clip so I don't you make a bonk list I Think the people like to Hank bonk list though. It's crazy that you can't do just a little bit of work. I Did the whole fucking thing wait Can I see the whole fucking thing wait Can I see the video She was our friend Sean Evans on hot ones

Stas oh some people have unbookmarked so we're down to 28,000 bookmarks Hank and I got a little bookmark battle today about the Dan Quinn situation. Yep. Ha ha ha ha ha. I've never bookmarked a tweet but I bookmarked Hank's ha ha ha ha and I can't wait to rub it in your face, Hank. He's good. I bookmarked him bookmarking me and I can't wait to. And then I bookmarked that back. And then we started doing screenshots of the bookmarks to bookmark more things You're gonna owe me bookmark battle. I love it. You're gonna owe me $20,000 on the Patriots don't make a super boy Yep, that's that was one of the dumbest bets ever. I in the moment. I was like, don't do this Hank I think I was drunk. No, it was after it was great. I was exactly where we were hugging. We're in Ohio Hotel

Eating pizza in the lobby and you were just feeling yourself. Well, he was very, very hungry that day because he basically got to eat it all. Yeah. Yeah. Keep you from eating. Max actually- The man is the man is.

Because we're landing in Vegas in the afternoon and Max was like, should we eat before or after we record the show? And I- I ate this. No, but I could feel that Hank was, no Hank was kind of looking at me like, don't you stop me from eating me an adult that can totally get my own food.

You're gonna fucking make me not eat dinner. You act like you're not the mom of the show that's running the show. But you can eat. You make the agenda, you're like, all right, this is the day-to-day schedule. Nowhere was their breakfast, it's fine. Everyone knows how it goes.

I just wanted to know when we could record the show. I know, but I saw out of the corner of my eye, Hank, was like, they're not gonna let me eat dinner again. You can eat at any time you want. All right, we'll keep that in mind. Let's see when that... Well no, you mean there's there's times when we're working that you could eat before we work.

Alright, so it's changing. You could put... You could eat whenever we're not scheduled for stuff. I think when you start... We do work together as a band of brothers on the road. We do everything together. That's how I like to operate with my... You know, you're become a little more of a diva.

You do everything on your own. What? And it's like you don't want to eat with... What do I do on my own? You eat on your own. You don't wanna eat with the people. I don't even think I eat breakfast that morning. We should start packing snack bags for Hank. Yeah.

It's like granola bars, peanuts. Yes, fruit snacks in there. It's a great bonding experience. The only diva thing I do is that when you guys wanna go to the bar, I'm like, I have one night where I can go to sleep and I say, I'm gonna go to my room and go to sleep. That's like the opposite of diva. And you're like, no, I want you to go to the bar. I'm like, I have one night where I can go to sleep and I say, I'm going to go to my room and go to sleep. That's like the opposite of diva.

And you're like, no, I want you to be here so you can tell me when to eat. I'm basically your dominatrix. You walk in, host this table for six and one please. I'll be in the back room. Oh, well Hank, you know what? I'm going to make sure that you eat all Vegas. Thank you. Okay, I'm going to sure that you eat all Vegas. Thank you.

Okay, I'm gonna be stuffing you with food. Actually, Hank should just eat at the wind buffet every meal. Yeah. That should be what you have to do. Just do that. Just schedule it out. You get three hours a day to eat. Great.

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Then we don't talk to you for a few months So we wanted to have you on talk some ball talk some what's going on in Boog's life So thanks for joining us Boog. How's it going? Let's I mean, just straight up like end of football season. How are you feeling? Because I know we mentally are tired, but we also hate that football is about to end. Yeah, what's up fellas? I'm glad everybody's doing well. I feel the same way man. I mean, if you think about it, it's a grind off football season. And we look forward to the grind. But

at a certain point, the grind kind of wears on you like man, I can't wait to this travel ends I can't wait till I stop getting on off a plane having to sit there and talk about the same old topics over and over and over And then once you get down to one last game left you like man What the hell am I gonna do with my life for the next four or five months? So it's bittersweet. I enjoy Doing this. I know. I enjoy doing this. I know you guys enjoy doing what you guys do. But it's always kind of sad when we get to the point where there's only one football game left.

Yeah, yeah. You get down to the last game and I do, I agree with you at the end of the season and maybe to a certain extent at the start of the playoffs, it's the same topics over and over again. Dallas Cowboys losing, is Dak the guy, et cetera etc, etc. But then you get to that one last game and you're like, I really want to squeeze every drop of football juice out of this one game. So I'm going to get way too detailed in my analysis of the Chiefs and the 49ers.

Yeah, way too detailed. But before we go any further, let's stop. I feel like I would be doing a disservice if I didn't say happy birthday to my guy. And hopefully I got this right. I was looking on social media that you celebrated a birthday recently, PFT? I did, yeah. It was yesterday. Thank you, Bogey. That's very nice of you.

Well, I just want to say happy birthday. I didn't get a chance to say it yesterday. I was going to text you, but I knew we would be talking this morning. Happy birthday. How old are we? 40 45 I'm 39 I'm 39 I appreciate that because I'm so wise you think I'm older but actually no I'm just a spry 39 year old yeah I'm actually older than PFT well first of all he looks older you just look fatter okay I was just getting even meaner and meaner

Booger do you know is there anybody else that you'd like to wish a happy birthday to? Not really, who else? Okay, all right. It was Big Cat's birthday on Tuesday. Yeah. Oh, it was your birthday, listen. I'm a day older than PFT. I actually, you know what, Booger?

I don't care, because men shouldn't know each other's birthdays. That's a fact. This is true. The only person's birthday you should know, family members, kids, and your wife. Anybody else, if you know your best friend's birthday or your homeboy's birthday, to me that's a little weird because even though we're best friends, we're not in the exchange gifts.

I'm not going to call you. You'll be like, hey, bro, happy birthday. Let's go hang out. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, kind of sus. You just need one. You need what it really is, is male friendship, is you need one guy in your group who knows everyone's birthday. So then they send the text being like happy birthday this person and then you're like, oh yeah, happy birthday.

And I never have to learn a birthday. But yeah, it was my birthday Tuesday, whatever. It's not you don't like me anyway. But thank you, Booger. I really that was really nice of you. First of all, you're welcome. Second of all, I do like you. I only teach you about your weight and about your ability to control your donor cravings because I do like you. And at some point, 20 years from now, when we're done with all this stuff we're doing, I want us to be able to sit back, drink some Stella blue coffee and reminisce about the good old days when I, when I ripped you to death. Yeah. So you'll be able to do that. You'll sit, you'll be sitting at my grave site and

you'll be able to talk to me and it'll be fine.'ll have fun you bring some donuts to my grave when I die like 55 You're not gonna be dead at 55 It is true though like guys guys shouldn't know it's not friendship is not about knowing each other's birthdays It's about knowing what to make fun of the other guy for yeah, that's how we say that we love you It's really when it comes to like I don't know if you have this book or but like I'll go like I'm done with the bachelor parties but like I'll go on a guys trip and at the end of the guys trip I'll actually sit my friends down and I'll just ask them like three or four questions that I can bring back to my wife because I know she's gonna be like what's going on with this person what's going on with this person because when you're hanging out you're not talking about that stuff

you're not like hey how's your day-to like, hey, how's your day to day life? It's amazing the amount of questions my wife asks me. Well, why do you do that? I don't know. I never asked it. Yeah, right. What's going on with this? I don't know what my friends do for a living. I don't care. I know they're happy. They'll tell me if there's a problem. Like, if they ever need me, I'm there for them. But other than that, like we just, you know, talk about the game, hang out. Exactly. Talk about the game. What do you want to order? What are we going to eat? Hey, how much of it are we going to eat and when are we going to do it again? That's it. Oh, that's the eating part is like, like family vacations. It's like, if you didn't have

the meals, like you would, you can't go on a family vacation because you got to be like, all right, what are we going to do for lunch right, where we're gonna eat dinner? Okay days over All right, I like this adult male friendship is it is funny the quirks that we all have that we all share and we don't realize Until we say it out loud Booger I wanted to start was we're gonna talk a little Super bowl, but I wanted to start with something you're hot on on twitter. Uh, I saw this yesterday. So Jeff Hathley, uh, gets hired by the Green Bay Packers as defensive coordinator, gets hired away from Boston college, which he had been doing a pretty good job there. And you pointed out that this is going to start happening left and right when it comes to college sports, because it's so hard to recruit, to re-recruit, transfer portal, NIL, that we're going to start losing

a lot of good coaches from college for what's kind of a step down in terms of coordinator position. What's the fix? Cause you're right. I think, I think this is going to be a trend. Yeah, you know what? I don't know what the fix is.

I can throw out a bunch of ideas. I think college football needs a CBA to kind of govern this because it's clear that the federal government is not going to step in because the laws differ from state to state. So I don't think the federal government is going to step in. That's number one. Number two, I think there needs to be a one-time transfer period. Right now you've got a fall transfer portal period. You've got a spring transfer portal period. Like as soon as the season's over, think about after you've come out of your worst meeting or you come out of your worst event, if somebody asks you a question about

the person you met with. Like, even like, man, he sucks. But if you had a couple of months to cool off, you'd be like, you know what, he was probably trying to tell me something that I really needed to hear about and want to hear because we don't want to hear bad news. And that's what happens to these kids after the season when you can transfer in December. Like if they didn't play well or they didn't get as much playing time and the coach said, Hey, it's going to be competition. Prime example, let's look at their house, state quarterback, common core 11 and one. You lost to Michigan. And from what I heard, he went into Ryan day's office and he wanted to be guaranteed the starting

job the next year. Well, the starting job wasn't guaranteed. So him and his dad took their ball and they left and they ran. Well, guess what? If he couldn't transfer until the spring, do you think Kyle McCorough would have come back, maybe worked on some of his short shortcomings, maybe got a little better. And then in the spring, if you go through spring practice and you still want to transfer, OK, I can deal with that.

But some of the emotional transfers that happened in December, I think will be cut out. Other things you could do. I'm all for guys making money. But name image and likeness was put in place just for that. What is turned into now is free agency. I got guys calling me saying, yeah, we're in negotiations with Florida State right now. And if negotiations don't go well, we're going to the portal. What? Right. Negotiation? Right. That's where we are right now. And I love college football, guys. I know there's nothing that we love more than sitting up on a Saturday morning, prepping, getting ready for college football. It's different than the NFL. Even though there's

much more money involved in the national football league, how much do we enjoy college football? And the reasons we enjoy it, I just don't wanna lose it. And I feel like we're trending toward losing our Saturdays. Because I don't want Saturdays to be like Sundays. Like there's a difference between Saturday and Sunday and I wanna keep that the same. I agree. I wholeheartedly agree.

Absolutely. And you're right. I think that college football was broken for a very long time in terms of the money that was going to the schools, to the organizations, to the conferences, and then the players weren't getting anything despite the fact that they were the product and they were putting all the labor into it. Now, it seems like the lack of any rules whatsoever is making it so it's much harder to enjoy the sport and enjoy the identity of the team that you thought that you used

to be so deeply emotionally involved in. I don't know what it is like with the CBA, I don't know who's going to put that in place. Like, do you think the NCAA is going to step up and do that? Because it seems to me the NCAA, their mindset right now is like, we don't know what's happening. And we're afraid of doing anything because we're just going to get sued by the schools if we do something that they don't like. The NCAA is useless. It's like me talking to big cat about a diet. Like it's just useless. Like I'm seriously like, think about this. They will pick and choose what they want to investigate.

They will pick and choose when they want to rule. Like they're still ruling on things from like 2021. Like we're in 2024 now. So what good is the quote unquote good old boy network, which is a bunch of guys in an old antiquated system where they ran college sports? Well, guess what? The only thing they really run right now is March Madness. Other than that, the Power 5 in football is running college football. Greg Sankey is the most powerful person in college football to commission the SEC. So if we want to deem a czar or a commissioner of college football, I'm going to nominate Greg Sanky because whatever the SEC does, and I know the Big 10 is kind of making some moves,

I would put the SEC in the Big 10, but since Greg Sanky has kind of been the forefront, whatever Greg wants to do, I think everybody also follow. So let's nominate him and make him the czar of the commission of college football and just go ahead and stop, stop playing like, like it's the quote unquote NCAA. No, it's the power five or the big two or three or four depending on what the ACC does in Florida State and Clemson and just separate from the rest of those. Have a quote unquote, invitational and determine a champion that way because that's ultimately where we're headed right now. If we're acting like the NCAA is actually governing the power five And we're fooling ourselves. Yeah, and I agree with you and I also think that like why why isn't there?

I know we've we've tried to make it the 12 team playoff. We're gonna get some more group of five Teams involved but to me it's like okay. We have the power five We know there's gonna to always be a gap. Like Alabama playing Cincinnati. Cincinnati was a great story that year. You play that game 100 times. Alabama wins probably 99 100 times. Why not have the group of five play for a championship

as well? Because guess what? That's like that will still mean something. And the kids want to play for a championship. And that's still like you could do a separate like, why not have two different playoffs? Well, I think you could have that, but don't you think UCF and Danny White would kind of feel a little, you know?

Yeah, that's fine, but they would still get to play for a national title. It would be a little bit different, but I think people would be in on it. So, okay, people might be in on it. So if we did this, let's play this hypothetical out. Does UCF have to turn in their championship they won a few years ago or can they roll that forward?

They can, they can repeat it. Yeah, they can keep it. They can keep that one. And you can definitely claim an Astral championship if you win the group of five. Yeah, by all means. Okay, I got you. And kids get to play playoff football

that means something to be like, this is the best group of five team. And it's, you know, it's just kind of weird to me that like I understand that we want everyone to be involved but like let's actually make it so that so that the group of five is playing for something that's meaningful instead of playing for a playoff seed to get killed by you know an Alabama or an LSU or like and it's again it's not not saying they're not good teams and they're not like really good football players but there is a point where it's like there's a there's a there's a levels here, you know, yes And you have to just say you know, so I don't know

I don't want to do that though because again, we live in a society where we want to be and I'm all for exclusivity I'm all for making everybody a part of things but at some point you have to ask yourself How many times if you put too late in this year, you put SMU of Liberty. Like Liberty played Oregon this year. And everybody knew the moment the game kicked off, Liberty had no shot. But because Liberty got a spot at the table based on the rules that were written,

Liberty played Oregon in a New Year's sixth game. And they had no shot shot was whatsoever. And to me, I agree with you. Why not put Liberty in a situation and reward them for a good season in a bowl game that they actually can win because they had no shot of beating Oregon that day. Yeah, we kind of treated it like College basketball.

We're like, oh, well, upsets happen in College basketball. That's a lot different when it's five on five and a guy can get hot or a team can shoot bad in a one game situation. And it's not not like hey these this offensive line is 320 pounds and this defensive line is 260 like Oregon was so much bigger so much bigger than liberty was saying right right all right other thing that I want to talk about and I don't want to do too long on it because it has been a few days and we've talked about ad nauseam It has been a few days and we've talked about it at Nazium. We defend Dan Campbell, you don't. Yeah, I don't. And here's why.

Dan Campbell has made his name based on his style of coaching and the culture that he has built. We're going to go for more than anybody else. We're going to bite knees, elbows. We're going to be tougher. We're going to be more physical. And that's great. I understand that.

But at some point, you have to take into account time, situation, and the game you're in. You just can't have a blanket formula saying we're always going to go for it. Now the one at the end of the half. Okay, cool. You want to kick the field goal? I love that. Kick the field goal.

You go up 17 points. At some point though, when the score is 24 to 10, and it's your halfway through the third quarter. So let's just start doing the math. I know you're probably not good at math. So I got math for you. I got math for you. Yeah. Okay. Perfect. So it's 2014. It's about seven minutes left. If you kick that field goal and you go up 27 to 10, how many more possessions do you think the 49ers are going to get for maybe four? So they got a score on three of their four possessions,

two of them being touchdowns to tie you. OK, so during the simple math, if you kick that field goal, then you give yourself a high probability of winning the game. Now, that's number one. I thought that was a clear mistake. When it's 27-24 and you're down three, there's such a thing that's called momentum. And it's a mindset.

Think about it. Prime example, PFT, watch this, this is just for you. If you and I are on a peloton ride and there's, no it's not gonna be this, so this is actually gonna be something that I, he and I can relate. Exactly, it's gonna be relatability, something that you and I can't relate to a lot.

If you and I are on a Peloton ride and the score is tied and there's three minutes left on the ride, you're going to feel really good about, okay, I got a chance. If you and I on a ride and you're down 50 on a Peloton ride and there's three minutes left,

you're going to be like, damn, I got a tough heel to climb. It's the mindset of being tied as opposed to the mindset of being down. And I thought at 27, 24, you kicked the field goal, you become tied, now you stopped all the momentum in the second half of the 49ers and your team's mindset is in a different spot.

And so yeah, I disagree with Dan Campbell on two of the three situations where he went for it on fourth down. If we were tied, I would assume that you fell off your bike. That's really the only way that would ever happen. But you said something there. I want to I want to drill down on you said you you make a field goal. And now you're up three scores.

We're not talking about make a field goal. We're talking about kick a field goal. Yeah. And the Lions kicker isn't great. I have some stats for you. You want the stats? You want the math? Yes, let's do the math. OK, so I went through it Michael Badgley career 45 to 49 yards, so this isn't including over 50 because that obviously excuse it

It was gonna be a 45 yard or 46 or 45 to 49 yards in his career Yeah, 65 percent the Detroit Lions on fourth and three or less this season is 85 percent Okay, so I Detroit Lions on fourth and three or less this season is 85%. Okay. So I, that part is like, they didn't trust their kicker. You can blame them for having a kicker they don't trust, but they didn't trust their kicker. That's the big issue. Well, okay.

Then that leads to a bigger problem. Why, why is it your kicker? That's, I agree with you there. I completely agree with you. You go in the playoffs with a kicker that you don't trust. You're going to be, you're going gonna be playing with a hand behind your back. But like, given the circumstances and how they feel about their kicker

and how they feel about their offense, I also, just to bring it down to just a very simple level, do you not believe, like Dan Campbell, doesn't trust his defense, doesn't trust his kicker, trusts his offense. Don't you want the part of your team, the third of your team that you have the most trust on making the plays in the big moments? Like that's what he wants.

If we put it in a vacuum and just say that, yes, I agree with you, but we all know that football is three phases offense, defense, and special teams and again, it leads to it leads to a bigger conversation. If you don't trust your defense, the defense, oh, by the way, that dominated the first half, OK, against San Francisco. But they did, yeah. OK. A defense, oh, by the way, that has gotten better

the second half of the season. Aaron Glenn is up for several head coaching jobs. He didn't get one yet. We'll see what happens in Washington. The kicker, I'll give you a kicker again. But if he 65% to me, I just think there's a big enough difference in three school. Okay. All right. Since we want to do math, let's say he goes for it. And let's say he makes it. What's the probability that if he makes it, they're going to score touchdown. So you

may wind up kicking a field goal again. Yeah, but a shorter one that he can hit. By the way we have we have breaking news we're gonna break this live. Uh Dan Quinn has been named the next head coach for the Washington commanders. Let's go. That just happened. Left hand up. Just happens. Yep. Just happened right now. Booger I'm gonna say right now I love this hire. It's a great hire. Booger I'm gonna say right now. I love this hire. It's a great hire Dan Quinn great It's a great because it's great hire his players love him this instant reaction from everyone It's a reaction. All right. Here's the thing about Dan Quinn people forget

He got to a Super Bowl and he put together a team He had his quarterback his quarterback was an MVP. They dominated the NFC South. He got to a Super Bowl and lost it. He was up 25 in a Super Bowl. He was up 25 in a Super Bowl. That's big. Listen, if you have, if you put together a team where your quarterback is MVP,

you dominate the NFC South, you get to a Super Bowl, I think that's gonna make you a pretty good head coach. You'd sign up for being up 25 in a Super Bowl right now. I can't think of any recent examples of head coaches for the Washington commanders that have that same resume. But I am I have no choice but to support Dan Quinn and you do hear is you hear his players talk about him. His players love him and it's also added bonus of making the Cowboys worse. So we're making them worse. Yeah. Just just to tie the two together if I gave you a choice right now going forward Dan Campbell or Dan Quinn?

Dan Quinn. Dan Quinn. Easy. Easy choice. Are you serious? No, it's an easy choice. Are you serious? He's got to go all in, Booger. He just found out he turned his hat backwards. He's got to go all in. Let him go all in. This is about this is actually adult friendship right here. This male friendship. Booger. I know my I know my guy right now is hurting but you gotta just

support him and be like you know what okay okay we're going to quitting and we're going right now it's quitting time and you just said a second you just yeah do do the hat get the hat get the hat backwards it's the new way all the kids are going we're quitting there we go we got a we got to support our boys even if they're making a mistake. We're not making mistake though But if I were I would appreciate the support. You just said yourself Dan Campbell goes forward on Fort Downs. He's a bird brain Yeah, I don't want that. I want Dan Quinn Dan Quinn is he got to Super Bowl. Okay, so I'm gonna support you. So let's spin this glass have four. Yep

If number one, I'm surprising. I'm surprised that they went with another defensive coach, you fire around Rivera, who's a defensive guy, you go to Dan Quinn, who's also a defensive guy tells me that they're going to put a premium on how physical they want to be and how they want to play defense in Washington. That's number one. Dan Quinn is a big energy guy. Like he's a big positivity guy. When I call Monday night football, I had some meetings, some production meetings with him. He is so fun to talk to, so full of energy.

He's gonna create a positive atmosphere, which is something that they haven't had in Washington a long time based on the old ownership and based on some of the things that were coming in that building. That's number two. The third thing is they got a lot of capital from a draft standpoint.

They're going to have a high pick. You got to figure out what you're going to do with the quarterback position. Are you going to be a big believer in Sam Howell? Or are you going to move on from Sam Howell and draft one of these guys that are going to be in the 2024 draft? So so many questions. I do like to hire because the last thing I'll say about it is this is that too many times we hire the guy who can babysit the quarterback. Oh, I love you have to hire an offensive guy to help CJ Shroud. No, you don't.

Okay. D'Amico Ryan, CJ Shroud, it's great. You get a good offensive coordinator and the Houston, Texas are in great shape right now. So I love that you go out and you hire the best leader of men. I need somebody that can stand in front of the room and say, Hey guys, we suck. Here's how we're going to get better. And I think Dan Quinn can do that. And to your point about being down 25, he was up 25, which is

probably not something to brag about. And he lost, I think his ability to understand and he lost, I think his ability to understand a second time around, I wasn't successful, okay, the first time. Now a second time around, I get another opportunity. Notice we got a couple of retreads. Him and Raheem Morris on retreads and in the NFL. Also Jim Harbaugh, even though Harbaugh, I don't think that Harbaugh get fired

and he just leave San Francisco the first time. I can't remember. Either way, those three guys are getting a second go around in a national football league. Yeah, three guys that got to a Super Bowl, right? Or I guess where he Morris was on that Falcon staff at the time. Correct, yes.

Yeah, exactly. Now I'm thinking about this is also good for me, because that stupid graphic that you guys always show with all the former Washington head coaches and how great they're doing right now, those guys were also, they were all on the Falcons team and Dan Quinn was their coach on that Falcons team. So now it's more like we need to talk about all the former Falcons head coaches that are now elsewhere. Yeah, but that's not sexy though. Nobody wants to talk about that. What about the fact of hiring

a defensive guy to run the show? And you can say this about Seattle too, with McDonald. You hire a defensive guy to run the show. You have to nail the offensive coordinator, especially if you have a young quarterback, right? And then- What you do? Yeah. And then you saw this year, it didn't really happen,

but you had Ben Johnson in Detroit, you had Bobby Slowick in Houston, two up and coming offensive coordinators that got interest to be hired somewhere else as a head coach. In those cases, they decided to go back and stick around. But I think more often than not, if you have a good young coordinator, they're going to get poached somewhere else to be a head coach. So then you have to just keep trying to find new offensive guys. Like, is there any advantage to having a defensive

head coach running the entire show as opposed to an offensive guy like Andy Reed that you know is going to stick around for a while. Well, I think defensive guys usually structure practice and structure things a little bit differently. Usually most offensive coaches, they can never have enough practice time because they want to run every offensive play they can. Having played for John Gruden and then playing for Tony Dungey, I can tell you the difference is really it is. John wanted to practice until they got every offensive play right. Tony Dungey just wanted to practice to be up tempo and to be physical. It doesn't, it didn't matter who won practice, whether the offense wanted to be the defense one, offensive guys hate when they get their ass kicked every day. And so like that's the difference. Let me ask you this about Ben

Johnson. Were you guys surprised since we're talking about offensive coordinators and who Dan Quinn is going to hire, were you surprised that Ben Johnson, A, went back to Detroit and B, rumors are he had a salary demand somewhere in the 10 to 15 million dollar range and that scared teams off? Were you surprised that those two things either leaked or happened? I'm surprised that he went back, yes, because it felt like it was a foregone conclusion this entire season that he was going to leave. You saw the Detroit offense this year and they were incredible.

They were almost impossible to stop. The only thing that could stop him was Josh Reynolds dropping a couple easy catches on like short fourth downs. So I was shocked that he went back, but I do think Dan Campbell kind of gave him a pep talk. And you know how Dan can get, he basically opened up his heart and was like, we built this thing in Detroit, see it through to the finish.

And I think Ben Johnson had that in the back of his head. And he was like, you know what, I'm gonna do that. And then also I'm gonna stick around so that next year I can coach the Bears. You know, somebody asked me, do you think he's quote unquote, scared to run his own program? And I'll never say a man is scared

because this is two years in a row. Two years in a row that he's basically said, I don't want a job. And he said, I got unfinished business. Like how many times can he do that in your opinion? Well, I think next year, I think if he does it again next year, it's gonna be weird. People are gonna be like, well, now something's weird.

Exactly. Yes. Yeah, I agree. I agree. And I think that being a head coach sometimes isn't it's not for everybody. So you can be a great, you can be a great Quinn. It's a great defensive coordinator, not a great head coach. Got to Super Bowl though. And this is this is the second time and he's learned from his mistakes. I'm really looking forward to that But all the time the coordinators the coaches offensive side of the ball Who's your who's your head coach big cats? He good was he a good coordinator? Listen? My head coach is we're gonna trust Ryan polls and we're gonna see how Caleb Williams does you think? Yeah, we was a slam dunk number one? Like I know there's get we're now in that smoke screen period where everyone will break down these guys

and find everything that's wrong about them and you'll get everyone being like, well, what about this? What about that? Sometimes you just got to watch watch the games and be like, trust it and be like, yeah, he's got elite skills that yeah, there's some holes, but yeah, you got to take the shot. Yes, I think if you're the Bears, because where Caleb Williams is, I think his ceiling is so much higher than Justin Fields. Justin Fields can develop into a really, really good quarterback. He can even develop into an MVP type quarterback because of his athletic ability.

But Caleb Williams has enough of my homesy stuff in him that you got to invest in that. Caleb Williams as a passer coming into the National Football League is further along than Justin Fields has been the first couple of years in the National Football League already. So hopefully they draft Caleb Williams.

Somebody offers them maybe a two and a four for Justin Fields. You get those picks, you can recoup some stuff, and you can start to build Chicago that way. That's what I would do. Yep. And on top of that, there's so many more advantages. You reset the rookie clock. Yep.

You know, you can start to kind of develop, you know, you get him a number one ride receiver to go along with DJ more. Oh, by the way, DJ is a number one. I think you get another, you get another guy at some point now, you got a couple of good receivers, very similar to how Joe Burrow has in Cincinnati. When you got T Higgins, a boy that chase, even though I think they're going to lose Higgins, but you still need to surround your quarterback with two or three really good receivers.

And so if I'm Chicago, that's the path that I go down. I like it. All right. So I want to talk about the Super Bowl real quick. You obviously played in a Super Bowl, two Super Bowls, right? Yeah. You won two Super Bowls, you played in two Super Bowls before the game from a mental, just personal aspect.

What point of the week do you start to get nervous? And what point of the week are you like, yes, it's another game, but no, it's not another game. 100 plus million people are watching and this defines legacies. It was a night before. And all week long, the hype to build up, like everybody wants to be a part of that.

And it's something that is totally cool because the entire sports world is focused on you and your team. And like you're having so much fun, especially when you get to the city. And all the work is pretty much done. And now it's time to take a team photo. It's time for media night. Like it's time for so many different things. But the night before the game is different.

I'll never forget down in being down in Miami when we played the Bears. I woke up at like 3 a.m. Sunday morning. And now the game is not until at six, five, 36, whatever the time it kicked off. And I tried to go back to sleep. I couldn't, I tossed and turned. And we were in Fort Lauderdale, so we didn't stay in Miami.

And I literally went out on the balcony and it's 3.30 in the morning. And I'm just staring out thinking of the possibilities that could happen, the possibilities or the outcomes that could play out that day. I'm thinking about making plays. I'm thinking about doing different, like I'm thinking about, oh, it's everything you can think of out on that balcony. And before I know it, it's 6 a is 6am and it's 6am the day it's a long, long day. I mean a long day. The nervous energy started to bill as the night

went on into the morning and as we get to the stadium and it's like overcast and cloudy. If you remember Super Bowl 41 that it rained all game. Prince the purple rain at halftime in the rain So I remember No Exactly and sexy rekti girls no It was raining it was raining 95 big out the rain had nothing to do with expulsion. Okay The most cool moment though was sitting in in stretch in pregame and you know There's probably 45 minutes to go before game time and you're sitting there and everybody's walking around taking pictures

and you I could just start to take it all in and It was one of those cool surreal moments because I dreamed of it for a long time, man, like being in that spot. And, you know, I got hurt in the game in the Buccaneers year that we ran to the Super Bowl, so I didn't actually get a chance to quote unquote play. And so for me to be in that Super Bowl 41 in Miami, strapped up, ready to go on the field is one of those surreal moments, man. And the nervous energy doesn't go

away until the ball is kicked off and until you get hit in the mouth. And I had some great battles in my career with Olin Crutes when I was in Tampa. And wouldn't you know it? Here we are in the Super Bowl. It's me and Olin Crutes. And it was one of those three-hour movies, man,

where I didn't want to be anywhere else. Right. And it wasn't because I knew we were going to win. It was because I knew something special was happening in that moment. He and I, I mean, he and our good friends and he and our battle for years. We're doing this on the biggest stage. And after the game for him to come up and say, hey, man, congrats, much respect. Like that part of the whole deal, culminating with the victory. Like, this is one of those moments. But to go back to your original question Hey man, congrats, much respect. Like that part of the whole deal, culminating with

the victory. Like, this is one of those moments. But to go back to your original question, man, you get super, super nervous the day of the game, the night before the game. And I didn't sleep again until like Tuesday morning. I mean, it was like the longest 48 hours and the most fun 48 hours of my life. Okay. So another question about it, obviously's a little different, because Peyton Manning, at that point of his career, it was like Peyton Manning can't win a Super Bowl, like jokes in the big moment, even though he was already on the path to a Hall of Fame quarterback.

Patrick Mahomes has won a couple Super Bowls. But what is the vibe like when you have a guy like Peyton Manning or Patrick Mahomes in terms of the locker room? Is it we don't want to let this guy down, or is it we got't want to let this guy down or is it We got our ace in the hole like we know we're okay because of this quarterback You feel super confident. Yeah, I mean It's kind of like when you walk out on the field and your kids are playing

And you look over on the other sideline and the kids that they're playing in basketball are like a foot shorter Yep, and and they don't have their shoes tied. You're like, yeah, we got this in the day. It's gonna be a good day for Little Johnny. Like that's how we feel with paid manning. That's how you gotta feel with practicing at home. Now, obviously it's not to that level because we're playing pro football,

but there's a level of confidence that you have when you have one of the all time greats. Because you know that your guy can get it done at any time and and like correct me if I'm wrong but playing with confidence is a huge factor that we don't really we don't understand if we're watching on tv but i would imagine like a locker room a unit playing with that confidence can make you a significantly better player on the field. No doubt about it. Confidence, momentum, it's kind of like, again, back to Dan Campbell.

I got more confidence when I'm tired or up than when I'm down. Like, so yeah, confidence is something man that you can't fake. Like you either have it or you don't. Like I can tell you on the first snapper game, whether or not I might have a good game, because I can understand that my opponent

and what I'm dealing with. And so even though, even though Devon Hester took the opening kickoff back, even though the first time we got on defense and Rex Grossman broke the huddle and Rex Grossman snapped the football, I go back and I tell Kato June and Gary Bracket, Rex Grossman cannot beat us.

I got this thought looking his eyes. And from that snap going forward, you knew that the Bears are gonna try to play around Rex Grossman, run the football, play defense, maybe get another special teams play. They weren't gonna let Rex Grossman try to beat us. And at that point, we just tried to beat the hell out of Rex Grossman as many times as we could.

And once we stopped the run, the game was basically over. We talked about playoff speed, Super Bowl speed, how it's like a little bit different in these big games. In the trenches though, is there Super Bowl strength? Are people pushing harder? Is it more physical? No, it's not any more physical. Like once you get into the playoffs, to me there's preseason, there's regular season, there's postseason. And so like postseason just goes up a notch. And the reason it goes up a notch is because the competition is that much better. So the speed is like you often hit those cliches about the speed. Yeah, the speed is better because the competition is better. And so all in crooks is going to play faster than, you know, I don't know, some dude from Kansas City who can't play anymore, because all Crouch should be in the Hall of Fame.

He's a Hall of Fame level type player. So he's going to play at a faster speed for sure. That's an interesting way to think about it. I feel really dumb all these years being like, the game's faster than the playoffs. Well, yeah, it's the better teams that are playing. Yeah. That tend to have much faster players. Yeah.

It's a good point. It's true. Although, I will say that the 49ers do feel like the faster team when you're just saying pure speed, team speed, against the Chiefs. And I don't know if that's maybe the Chiefs just shape shifting into more of a deliberate offense. But it does feel like just looking on paper, they have a lot of really, really fast guys,

especially on the outside and you know with the McCaffery like it does feel like they have more speed I Was surprised that I saw somewhere 49ers the 49ers are favorite like by one and a half or something Yeah, they are that that's surprising based on the way their defense is played number one and number two the way their defenses played number one and number two, the two quarterbacks in this game. The fact that Vegas wants you to take Brock Purdy over Patrick Mahomes, I'm not sure I can do that. Yeah. I don't know about you guys, but eh.

No, I took the Chiefs. I took the Chiefs because it is, I'm trying really hard not to have it swayed because there are parts of it that I start to think about and it's like, listen, if the Niners just want to run the... But if the Niners do what the Ravens didn't do and just be like, hey, Christopher McCaffrey, here's Christopher McCaffrey 30 times.

I don't know if the Chiefs have a great answer for that, but at the end of the day, it is like, who do you trust to make the big play in the fourth quarter? And the answer is always Patrick Mahomes. Let me ask you this, guys. Doesn't it feel like that if the 49ers don't get it done now, we're going to start to kind of say, well, are they ever going to get it done?

Like how many times can this iteration of this defense and putting in ex-quarterback and Kyle Shanahan and the wizardry of him as an offensive guy, like they've been knocking on the door for a long time. If they don't get it done here, are we gonna start to kind of question whether or not they can ever get it done? I don't know because they do have a couple years

under the Brock Purdy window, because he's not gonna, he's not gonna get paid for a little bit, so they can make some more additions or they could go out in the offseason They could get a quarterback and there are a couple of quarterbacks that come to mind. Whoa Let's not have any Brock Purdy slander right now. I'm not slandering Brock Purdy. I'm just saying you just said they're gonna go get another I'm saying if they lose there is one quarterback out there that Kyle Shanahan is in love with like wants to marry Kirk cuz yes He's a free agent quarterback out there that Kyle Shanahan is in love with like wants to marry Kirk Cousins. Yes.

He's a free agent. I think that ship is passed. I do. I like Brock Purdy. We've been pretty consistent on this show starting like week two or three this year is pretty early. We said Brock Purdy is just playing good football. He's you can say he's a good quarterback. It's okay to say that you don't have to say that he's an elite like Patrick

Mahomes guy that will carry a team to Super Bowl on his own. But he's playing good quarterback. It's okay to say that. You don't have to say that he's an elite like Patrick Mahomes guy That will carry a team to a Super Bowl on his own But he's playing the game really well right now and I know I don't think he's a bad quarterback at all I think I think the 49ers can win this game for sure I do I think the game is going to come down to uh Two things number one

How does the 49ers defense? Handle the Chiefs offense from the standpoint of can they dominate the matchup they're supposed to win? Because on paper, the 49ers are supposed to dominate the two tackles that the Chiefs have. So Bolsa and Chase Young are supposed to have a field day. That's number one. Number two, how do you take away Travis Kelsey?

I think if the 49ers are going to win, that's going to be the formula from a defensive standpoint. If you tell me the chiefs wouldn't win the game, then Travis Kelsey has a day and there's got to be one more guy. Like there's got to be an X factor. Somebody's got to help my homes and Kelsey. So is that MBS is that where she rides? Is that great? Is that Watson? Like somebody's got to make a play other than Kelsey. I think for the for the chiefs to win this game because if you're if you're saying friend you got to go into this game saying if we lose the Super Bowl we're going to lose because somebody not named Travis Kelsey beat me. So I don't know I don't know how they do that but they got to come up with a plan that way 87 doesn't beat them. I think the name might be, you didn't name it,

but it might be Pacheco. Cause you saw what the, you saw what the, the Lions were able to do in terms of running the football against the Niners and Pacheco is, he's been awesome. Like he is the best running back that Patrick Holmes has had, which kind of gets lost in the shuffle. Cause Patrick Holmes, the story is he's finally got a defense, but Pacheco might be the guy.

Yeah, man. By the way, Pacheco runs like I envision you waking up on a Saturday morning going to get donuts like that's how hard I envision you leaving the house running toward the local donut stand every Saturday morning the way he runs. Like he runs angry. Yeah, you're not wrong. He's fun to watch. The other thing I am looking at is

The kicking situation we're talking about not trusting a kicker. I think I think the chiefs have a much better kicker Yeah back in October watching Moody. I you could see he missed a couple kicks and even his makes a lot of them are like Very by the narrowest of margins. He's a little shaky and I would not trust him. A little? Yeah, yeah, movies. He's a lot shaky. Especially in the playoffs, but this whole season, like he's been a very, very shaky kicker and he's gotten away with a lot of it, but I just, I keep waiting for it to bite them in the ass

and it for, like to actually affect the outcome of a game. In the playoffs, he's gotten away with it, but yeah, I'm not totally confident in that part of the game. Okay so if we're gonna do it this way we're gonna say kicker advantage chiefs gotcha defense advantage chiefs right the chiefs have a better defense. Yep. Receivers receivers who would you 49 Is that a serious question? Easy. Wait is Kaderious Tony playing because that might affect it Does it matter? Offensive line 49ers. Yep. Yeah, chiefs offensive lines played very well though. They have but the two tackles they got Patrick Holmes didn't get sacked till the first time he got sacked in the playoffs

Is what the third quarter of that Ravens game like they have they they've been underrated very good Yeah quarterback game like they have they've been underrated very good. Yeah. Quarterback. Chief. Probably Chief. And then running back $40. $40. Tight end.

Ooh. I mean, tight end. I'm going to favor Kelsey. But I mean, that's a pick them, to be honest with you. Kittles dog. Kittles dog. All right. So Booger, last question, rowback question.

RHO, BACK. dot com promo code TAKE. 20% off your first purchase. Q-Zips, Polo, Sody's, Jogger, Shorts, promo code TAKE. Go right now, Roback dot com. All right. So is your official pick? Can we get your official pick? Is it Chiefs? No. As much as I think the Chiefs are phenomenal in Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reed and Kelsey, almost unbeatable. This is kind of a heart pick. Like I've been knowing John Lynch a long time. I play with him, we won a Super Bowl.

He's been knocked on the door. He's a Super Bowl champion as a player. He's in the Hall of Fame. He gets an opportunity to be a Super Bowl champion as a general manager. And I just think there's a certain thing to say about it being your time. Like I just think it's the 49ers time.

Like how many times are they gonna knock on this door and knock on this door? It was, we were one throw away against the Chiefs last time with Jimmy Garoppolo. If we would have had a healthy Brock Purdy last year, if, if, if, if, if, at some point, it's gotta be your time. They're healthy, the defense, I think it's good enough.

Brock Purdy has been playing outstanding I just think it's their time right now. So I'm picking the 49ers. I like it. I like it booger I think I am too. I've crunched the numbers and I think I think I think me and you together booger We can stop Patrick Mahomes. We're the ones There's absolutely no question about it. All right. Well booger. Thank you as always. You're the best man We love having you on. Are you going to Vegas? Absolutely. I'll get to Vegas midweek next week.

And I got a lot of food spots that I'm already looking forward to hitting. The game will be great. Looking forward to seeing the halftime show with us. Yeah, it should be a good week. Are you guys going to be in Vegas? Yeah, we'll be there. So we got to get together. We got to get together. No question. Let's connect offline and unless we

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This sucks because we were going to do this interview in Vegas person Yeah, it was all planned for that, but we figured we still would should have them on for 20 minutes and Yeah, dude You fucked up your team fucked up Super Bowl and they fucked up I fucking know dude. Is this any way to start a man who's grieving? Is this a way to treat me right off the fucking bat? Yeah Yeah, you don't know who's grieving. Is this a way to treat me right off the fucking bat? Yeah. Yeah. You

don't know. You don't know. You don't think I fucking know that big guy fucking know it sucks big and that we fucked up. Yeah. Fuck. Yeah. That was and that no team is ever that healthy in the fucking playoffs ever. And that we fuck. Oh my God, dude. Oh my God. It sucks dick. I was so you're doing well. You're doing well. I'm doing bad. My entire life is no joke This has sent me back personally a month minimum like I just emotionally physically I've been on a bender truly like I was sober. I've been getting fucked up all week. I'm good I think it's the last I have to just throw away the weed in my house All the you know the booze has been drank. I literally have gone back into like

Getting fucked up getting high in the morning ordering like you know $400 worth of seamless throughout the day just for me and the team, you know, just it's it's like a crack den in this bucket I'm in Baltimore. It's just there's shit everywhere. I was setting up a new house. I bought a fucking sauna. I bought a treadmill. None of I haven't exercised. It's my life has plummeted, bro. If I didn't shit's going so bad. And thank God I have to go work this weekend. Thank God. Like, my life, my my like depression cave has been so bad that

like going back on the road will be healthier for me. I have one weekend on the road and I, and just being on the road, I'm like, thank God, I can't, I can only do so much damage in a city. I don't really know. I'm just fucked, dude. This sucks. I'm so depressed. I think so depressed. You think you would have drank more beer and more liquor and ate worse food on Super Bowl week or is like your depression week way worse for your body than that? That's see that's the thing. 50 I was I was kidding myself. I was like, because you know, I've gotten fat as shit this year. Like that was yeah. And I'm like, damn, I need this. I need to like, I need to like a little health sabbatical.

Yeah, you were jacked up in 2020. And part of my fucking, part of my thinking was like, the only small silver lining is at least, cause the Super Bowl is going to be so fun. You motherfuckers are going to be there. So many friends just go to the Super Bowl. It was the first, it's in Vegas. I was going to do a show, you know, my friends, Segura and Bert are fucking doing a show. I was going to the Super Bowl. It was the first in Vegas. I was gonna do a show, you know, my friends

Cigarette and Bert are fucking doing a show. I was gonna hop on there. It was just gonna be awesome There's gonna be so much shit and I was like well at least I won't fuck my body up and I'll just be at home and I and I Promise you I've done more damage in four days than I would have done in Vegas. Just being sad, not having any fun. And it's not even good. It's like, I've been eating the way like when a, like when somebody gets fat for a roll, like I've been leaving ice cream out and drinking it.

You know what I mean? Like it's not even good, dude. I've been, you know what a snack I had yesterday? Cause I ate all the desserts. I just put butter on fucking, I put butter on crackers and slathered like syrup like I'm just like I'm in like fucking fat crackhead mode dude where I'm just like I'm ripping the like I'm I'm a subway from like ripping the copper wire out of my house for

fucking chicken wings. I'm fucked dude. I didn't think I'd be this sad and I'm sadder than I've been in like years this like that was such a fucking brutal loss. It felt bad the whole fucking time. I'm in the stadium, right? Like we're there and it was like the first half of Houston felt a little fucked and then the second half was one of the best moments of my life. Like just how Lamar came out and it just was so almost worse about that is we were tan. it was tantalizing the whole fucking time Right, it was like we're not even at the very even after they fumble which no shot they played fucking great

Nobody should be mad at him. That's a fucking tough play whatever right even after they fumbles and it's like Okay, we're fucked after that first initial which by the way that like, you want to talk about the worst 10 seconds of my life. It's like that was like going from we just scored a touchdown on a sick drive. Finally, we're cooking to the fucking chiefs, these cocksuckers. That's how much that's how much like the Illuminati is on their side. They get the touch back the next week. A weird thing happens to them and they just get the same fucking thing the next week. How the fuck is that fair they just get the same fucking thing the next week Only suffered one week a weird touch back The other thing it had to be the chiefs

Buffalo if it's Buffalo, whatever those fucking fans they deserve like it would have hurt But I wouldn't have wanted to kill myself. I wouldn't be thinking like, Oh, fucking a bunch of commercial act like this is this is the most psyop, most fucking thick shit of all time. Even though we suck. Look, our offense, I think let me and to be I don't know if you guys tell I didn't prepare it off for this. I haven't listened. I haven't listened to sports media. I haven't like done anything. I've been in my cave being fucking pissed. But like our offense, I think I understand that. Todd monkey. I don't know what anything I've been in my cave being fucking pissed but like our offense sucked dick I understand that

Todd monkey. I don't know what the fuck happened. What the fuck why the fuck we were just doing all these fucking little screen passes and shit And why the fuck we didn't try running it down the throat So even if we had run the like if we even if we had run the like caveman Greg Roman fucking for running back offense We still we probably would have fucking won that game. What the fuck happened? Fucking our offense got got like scared. I don't know why the fuck we didn't just try and run it down their fucking throats At least a little bit But it's still fixed it is also still fixed that ref can suck my dick He would that those personal fucking the taunting on say fucking Travis Kelsey that fucking cock sucker getting anything he wanted

Right God forbid that God forbid anything ever gets fucking whistled on him. I just like we it was fucking crazy Dude, it was fucking insane. So you so I I text you after the game I do take a little bit of blame Because I put on the purple camos and it feels like that was not a great sign And can I say something you got the off-brand ones? I will I got sent to me it got sent to me This big cat I did notice the right armor. Yeah, the ones big. It was like darker like black primary color almost It's like it's like sending somebody in Iraq a faulty body armor

You don't have the right fucking stuff. And we got fucked because of it. Donald Rumsfeld since he's Fargo, so much better. I wasn't ready for it, but you, so we were texting throughout the game and we texted after and you said you're going full conspiracy mode on this. What, yeah, what's the conspiracy here

other than Taylor Swift in the Super Bowl? I mean, I wish, again, I didn't prepare because I wanted this to be fully just like from the heart, but just look, I'm sitting at it just feels like, well, first of all, Warren Sharp, you're you guys just have him on all the time. You put that thing out about this ref. I was the only motherfucker that you know, the it's the only time the only time a home field has a disadvantage and whistles is when they put this guy on the fucking field. And it's like, Oh, what a fucking coincidence. Who gets who gets fucking assigned to this, right? Yep. And, and it's good, by the way, that we finally, I will say what's cool about Warren Sharper's that we finally weaponized autism fully to

football. It feels like it took too long. But like, yeah, of course, that leads to the guys should be doing that's the so I respected that but then it was just like all these fucking calls, dude If I haven't gone back, I can't I can't watch any tape. I can't do anything but the taunting comes to mind You know just Likely the you are watching the broadcast, but it was it was a terrible throw Lamar deserves all the blame for that But on the broadcast yes, the announcer the the booth ref was like as you can see The contact comes in after the ball and they show the replay and he literally tackled them before the ball Yeah, dude, it was it was so fucked and I'm sure there's I just really legitimately feel that it was the kind of thing where

The NFL just did everything that was like, look, we're not gonna outright you can't outright fix anything. Wink, wink. But like, if everything, you know, no one's going to be mad if a couple calls go, you know, one way or the other. And I just feel like that passenger financials bullshit, the taunting was bullshit. We had a lot of dog shit fucking calls, a lot of roughing the passers that I think were fucking caught. There's a couple of roughing the passers that I think were fucking cotton There's a couple of roughing the passers that I thought were bullshit whatever And look it was just the NFL had a lot of fucking money to make from from a purely From a purely like you know market share like we would have cost the NFL so much money It would have been awesome

It would have been fucking sick and also would have been sick to just like the people on the fucking commercial You know State Farm doesn't get banged for their butt because they're cock sucking their whole crew doesn't get to be in the Super Bowl. Right? Like everybody who put all their fucking money in Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey, and oh, and like, we would have, we would have delayed Travis Kelsey's inevitable Amazon Prime fucking direct to Amazon action movie career that that fucking freak is clearly trying to set up. Amazon action movie career that that fucking prick is clearly trying to set up. Guys, they're fucking focused on football, gets a fake relationship, gets a vaccine,

so the Illuminati give him a fucking billionaire girlfriend, and so he could be in fucking movies. Hasn't fucking focused on football all fucking week, all year. The team sucks dick. The team sucks fucking dick, and then the NFL just fixes it so that you fucking go, because it's a better storyline than get fucking little girls to buy Stanley Cup fucking chief gear now. Now we got fucking Travis Kelshaw and Stanley Cubs

in third grade. Fucking congratulations, Roger Goodell. You can't suffer. I'm fucking joking. God, it fucking pisses me off. And it's just like that. It had to be the chiefs. They weren't even good.

That's the thing that fucking kills me. We stopped punching bombs. Our defense did what we needed to do. It's just like that had to be the chiefs We did we did what we need to do we couldn't score more than ten fucking points That's humble too, it just will haunt me and I don't I mean stays the man It's just like just put that touchdown in ah it was fucking brutal. It was fucking brutal, dude. It's going well. Do you have a, I don't want to blame you because obviously you, you know, you've been a Ravens fan.

You've been long suffering before the game. Justin Tucker's warming up. Travis Kelsey and Mahomes start to bully him. Start to shove him around, get in his head. I wish I, oh. You were at the stadium wide I was why didn't you stop Travis Kells that's you know it the hand up that's on me I didn't even say I was on the other side of the field

if I had seen that those fucking thugs had gone a cost of the goat a man and his in his home stadium hey you wanted to play at home? You fucking chiefs? Maybe fucking don't podcast podcasts for us. You piece of shit. That's another problem I have with the calcium. Now we now they're coming on my fucking corner. They get to be fucking hot famous. You know, the other one has a family. They've got fucking Super Bowls. They don't I don't even get podcasting. I have to lose to the team that's trying to take the fucking

Food off my family's table those fucking cock suckers. I came from the podcasting sewers I came from come town and they get the fucking just they get to just have a the most famous sports podcast in the world God, I fucking hate there. I fucking hate that team so much. I they win. I'm gonna be so pissed They probably fucking will. Yeah, I should have fucking honestly, GFT, I should have fucking if I had known I honestly maybe should have even just I strapped a bomb to myself and hugged. I should have just gone. I should have just gone fucking. I should have just taken one for the team and just strapped a fucking Watch it just taking one for the team and just strap the fucking bomb of vest on and just fucking hug Travis Kelsey

Whispered into his ear. This is for podcasting you piece of shit Thinking you could do what I do and then we fucking both explode and then at least and then the Ravens went hopefully So are you gonna watch the Super Bowl? No, I'm not watching that fucking dog That's the other thing dude, okay, I'm in the fucking I'm in the stadium, right? And I'm I'm obviously I want to kill myself It's one of the worst moments I've ever felt in my life seeing those fucking pieces. It should set up there You know set up the fucking stage You know on on M&T Bank felt horrible. I'm just sitting in that. I'm sitting in the suite that you know that I was in. I was outside the whole time, but I'm sitting inside

now wanting to kill myself eating, eating just, you know, buffalo chicken egg rolls that have been under a heat lamp for five, six hours at that point. I'm just like, starting to numb myself with whatever dog shit I can find. And I'm watching the game. And at least the second game is like, All right, the line like if the lines were in it, it's like, whatever dog shit I can find and I'm watching the game and at least the second game is like All right, the line like if the lines weren't it it's like all right I can root for a team that it's a good story. They haven't you know done anything Fuck you fuck the 49ers could suck my dick also whatever

I just wanted the lines when I'm like all right if they win that's one thing and they're up big time and then You know it takes a fucking hour to get out of a stadium in traffic. I couldn't pull up the NFL app on my phone. I was too hurt to even watch football on my phone in the car. I'm just staring blankly, like thinking that I have to make a Ronnie video, even though I'd rather kill myself in that moment.

And as soon as I get home, this Niner's won. Like, I couldn't even have like one nice thing to root for and keep me. Now I got a root for, I got a root for the, like one one nice thing to root for and keep me now I got a root for I got a roof for them. I guess I do have to refer the Niners. They're soders team whatever I guess they haven't won shit in a while But it's just not the same the lines would have been fun Anyway, whatever dude, I can't watch the fucking Super Bowl. No, and here's the thing You guys want to hear something fucked up and by the way happy birthday boys. Thank you

You want to hear something fucked up? You the way happy birthday boys. Thank you. You want to hear something fucked up You know when my 35th birthday is oh Superlative Yeah, it's and here's what's fucked up. I had started. I was making deals with God, right? I thought I was like, Okay, Super World's on my 35th birthday. My this year, my life has been the weirdest year ever where it's like I just by accident kind of got famous. I still don't really understand what happened. And I was like, All right, some kind of like gypsy curse on my family

gave us one awesome year. And then the second I turned 35, it's over. And I just thought, just let me get the fucking birthday. And let me get the Super Bowl out of this. Take it all away. Take my fucking, cancel me. Take it all going up, foreclose on my home. But let me just get to this fucking,

let me have one more beautiful moment on my 35th birthday. And I started thinking like, yeah, like something, and I was, don't get me wrong, I was waiting for bad shit to start happening to me, but I just felt like there was a poetic thing of like, hey, one good year of my life, and we get the Super Bowl, and then it could go to shit from there, but no.

God had to remind me, there's nothing special about you, you fat piece of shit. You just got lucky with fucking crowd work clips life is pain No one no one deserves anything no one gets to enjoy anything Except the except our fucking the puppet masters who have appointed the Kansas City Chief Super Bowl champions for the rest of their lives So it might have saved your life though like for the rest of their lives. It might have saved your life though. Having a birthday in Vegas on Sunday after the Ravens win.

Like I put Stavi surviving at like, I don't know, plus 300. It would have been bad, bro, for sure. I would have fucking, I would have done whatever it takes to actually celebrate with the Ravens. You know, I was slowly meeting like it was so fucked up I was like felt like I was meeting guys on the team people in the organization I felt like it was possible to do that and yes, you're right. I would have gotten more fucked up than I've been in years I would have spent God knows how much money on drugs dick pills and like high-end Vegas prostitutes to celebrate

It would have been a really fucked up scene, but I wanted it, P.F.P. I fucking wanted it. I mean, they took money out of it. I was going to charge people 100 grand Ferrati appearances into Super Bowl. You kidding me? I was about to get rich, dude. I was about to fucking tash in. Can I give you some good news? Because we had Joe Flacco on the show a couple weeks ago. Yeah, and we brought you up, and he's a big fan. He's been watching your shit. He wants to meet you, wants to hang out. Hell yeah, that's awesome.

That does feel good, and I can't wait to hang out with Joe. I'm just still fucking mourning this team. It's like, it'll help, it'll help for sure, hang out with Joe for sure. But it's like, even in the grand, in the grand scheme of this fucking team, it's like, Joe's a great example where it's like, what I love about the Ravens, what's been awesome about being a Ravens fan is like,

we're that team where it's like, whenever you're talking about the best teams, right? We don't immediately come to mind and then you're like, well, don't forget about Baltimore. And then you're like, they win about every fucking generation, you know, we've spoiled a bunch of big like, we fucked the Patriots up a couple times, like we were spoiler for them. And what this just felt perfect, dude, this felt like, here comes our Superbowl

for this generation, right? Then we can then anything the rest of Lamar's career is cake, all the expectations are gone. We get to play spoiler to the fucking chiefs again, we get to play spoiler to the dinosaur this generation,. We get to play spoiler to the dynasty of this generation. I wanted Lamar to have a win over fucking Patrick Mahomes. So fucking bad. And then it's like, everyone's healthy. I don't even wanna talk.

I'm gonna, you know, I got the Mike McDonald notification, I almost started crying again when I fucking saw these other players, coaching the Seahawks. Like we're gonna get, we're gonna, they're gonna poach our fucking coaching staff. I don't even I haven't looked at the cap that's probably gonna make I assume it's bad but I don't know I'm just this felt right this felt like just how that with that flak oh run was just felt beautiful and it was

it was a culmination of you know Ray Lewis's last year and Reed gets one flak oh plays out of his fucking mind and we get one and then fucking pay Joe $100 billion after that when I don't give a fuck. That's what this is going to feel like. Hey, if we lose our awesome coaches, they're gone. If we lose some players, because they have to go get paid, I get it. But now all of that happens for nothing. All of that fucking happens. And next year, ours, you know, you're the number one, we you know, you're, you're, you, your top seed, your schedule is going to be fucking harder.

That cock sucker Joe Burroughs going to be fucking back. At least the Browns have sex, crimp, at least the Browns can't sign Joe Flacco again to surprisingly lead them, you know, they still have to at least the Browns have to fucking have the Sean's, the Sean's bitch ass over there. But still, you know, and the Steelers still suck. That's going to feel good. If they get a quarterback in his draft, I'm like, you know, if things start going good for the Steelers and Browns too gonna feel good if they get a quarterback in his draft I'm not you know if things are going good with the Steelers and Browns too though. I don't know man

This just felt right All right, well So this is it's been great. Does it at least feel like this has been therapeutic Do you at least feel like you've gotten a little out of because I'm happy you didn't consume any Media and you haven't done anything because I feel like we got basically like post game thoughts from you four days later. I've been, I've just been in like a cooler, I've been preserving these thoughts with getting with so much so many edibles and so many fucking you know Bud lights that I'm just like that it's just like in Chinese food. I'm packed. This is basically right after the game

It does feel a little therapeutic. I have to start my life over. I have to get back. I have no more weed I think I have to cook my own meals For the time being I have to I have to kick my I was dude I was two weeks clean on night ice cream and I relapsed big Kick that tonight. No more night ice cream. It does actually feel this felt like all right. I Got it out. I can fucking you know, I can live my life, but God I wanted to be there I want to be in Vegas so bad. We would have been awesome We would have fun together anyway. All right. Well, stop boys. Thank you so much. This was hilarious

I feel like the therapy, you know, let's let's start Let's let's put one good day on the schedule right one day at a time Listen, you're not gonna kick night ice cream just like that It's just one day in front of another in front of another and you're gonna get back. Yeah, you're right brother. All right. Thanks boys Stavi was brought to you by our great friends over at Manscaped. That's right, Manscaped's back. Manscaped, Manscaped, Manscaped.

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It is PFT pitching against the UIC Flames. I caught Jake, Hank and Max in the outfield. We were able to afford 90 seconds of Joe Buck. The rest of the broadcast is done by our great friend Nick Turani who is a great broadcaster. So go check it out, very fun video. I watched it earlier today and Nick is very funny but Jerry is awesome. Jerry is the umpire. He was born, it's a part he was born to play. His strike calls are legendary. Jerry was great as the umpire he was born, it's a part he was born to play. His strike calls are legendary. Jerry was great as the umpire, yes.

He was, yeah. And there are allegations that I may or may not have used Spider Attack. I can't comment on that right now. Jerry I think called a fair game for the most part and he didn't catch me using Spider Attack so even if I did use it I got away with it. I was told that there might have been some cuts specifically me breathing heavy into the mic? Uh, false.

Oh, you left them in? Did not leave them in. There were cuts of PFT breathing. Oh, let's go. So, it wasn't me. So, I was getting gassed up there. I was told that it was me. Like two days after I did the pitching thing, my arm was sore, my legs were sore.

I was throwing off the mound. I haven't thrown a baseball in years. Everything was sore. I got through it with just grit, determination, a little bit of nicotine and a little bit of cheating and some good play for my guys out in the field. So it's a good video, I think. Yeah, it's fun.

Everyone's mic'd up too, so it's like a little bit of Nick commentary and then a lot of like- Breathing heavy. Breathing, there's a little bit of Hank or a Nick commentary and then a lot of like breathing heavy breathing. There's a little bit of breathing heavy. I was gas. Jerry, Big Cat and. I haven't seen it but if I was if my mic's in there I'm pretty sure my only line was

just don't hit it to me. Don't hit it to me. Oh that yeah that was commented on. Yeah. That was the only thing Hank said. Don't hit it to me. By the way, Jim Harbaugh did his introductory press conference. I just want to play one clip.

I have no idea what he said in it, but the caption is, don't let the powder blues fool you. So this probably is going to be a good Jim Harbaugh quote. That's where we are right now. Humble and hungry, and we're going to respect all our opponents. And we're going to strive that we're going to earn their respect. And we're going to earn their respect and we're gonna earn our winning. You know, tough team, you know, the resilient team, a relentless team, physical team. This is what I wanted. Don't let the

powder blues fool you. I like that. That's what I aspire to do. Fuck, that's so bad. When he says physical, he wants to just beat someone up. He takes a deep breath and says, physical. It's like a Dan Quinn line almost. Yeah, fuck. All right, Hank, firefest? Yeah, we were here late on Sunday doing the show. I haven't been having trouble sleeping. I got a show coming up Tuesday.

Not sure if I've mentioned that. But we were here late if I've mentioned that. But we were here late and I've had a tough time falling asleep, so I slept for like two hours. We had a three hour commercial shoot here Monday morning, first thing, 8am, so I was coming off like two or three hours of sleep. Got here, asked the director what exactly the shoot is, and they gave me, of all of us, they're like, all right, take your shirt off,

here's a two inch spandex shorts that you have to wear. I think calling it spandex, by the way, is a little bit generous. It was pretty much like a pantyhose. I could see the head of my cock. Yeah. The veins were visible. Yeah.

And we just had to stand around, basically naked, in the cold. Yeah. It was just had to stand around basically naked in the cold. Yeah. It was very cold. I was not cold at all. I was very cold. Yeah, no, I'm just that small. So yeah, that was...

I didn't look. That sucked. Did you guys look? I did not look. There were a couple shots. They told me to look. I had to look. There were a couple shots where they told us

we had to look at each other's penises. And we discussed it. We were like, hey, we're not going to look because we weren't really hanging low and lazy at the time. As we mentioned, it was cold in the room. It was early. And I made a concert effort not to look, but it sounds like Big Cat might have taken a peek. I saw a little... What'd you see? Not much. Okay. Well, I was going to do a compliment. PFT's's got some good sized balls. I do. Yeah. I saw them.

They call them big meaty clappers. Yeah. What the fuck, Hank? They told me they're like- Why did you look? We all were looking right in front. They literally directed dark. Alright, now look down. That's such a lie. Nah, you gotta look in front. No. You gotta look. Give it your honest assessment. I wasn't there. Tell the listeners what you thought of being big cats penises. I Mean again, not much, but I was like damn big has probably bigger than me fuck. Oh, that's that's that is a fuck I Didn't get anything

But it was cold so it was cold. It was cold. You're right. It was cold very cold It was cold. We got people just peeking in while we're talking about our dick sizes. That's okay. Oh, they heard There's some clients. It's all right. That's okay. Oh, they heard. Yeah. Those are some clients. It's all right. It's very small. It was four. And Dave.

It's, it's, it, listen, my, you know, it gets scared of my dick. It's not intimidating enough to be like, whoa, I've had that thing away. I think I just get laughed off. If I was like a flasher, they just be like, Oh, that's cute. There was a girl that I dated at one point that referred to it as boyfriend dick. Oh, like boyfriend. I don't it sounds like the biggest backhanded compliment of all time. Yeah, that is. Yeah, boyfriend dick. White Sox, they just popped his head into a pick out an

hour and a meeting with some other people yesterday. Like six people in the room, clearly meeting. Dave ran up to the window, looked at me, and mouth was like, what do you mouth? He said, are you in a meeting? And I looked around and I was like, yes. And then he walked away for two seconds, came back, and was like, basically called me out of the meeting. And then I walked out, he's like, sorry, sorry,

I didn't want to interrupt, I didn't want to interrupt. You have to come out. We had, we were doing handball. I was like, I had out and he's like, sorry, sorry, I didn't want to interrupt, I didn't want to interrupt, you have to come out. We had, we're doing handball. I was like, I had to leave at 345, just letting you know. That was it. That's it? I mean, White Sox Dave is such a jack. I was.

Could have just texted me that. On Tuesday when we had pause here and we gave the big check for Stella Blue Coffee, we're playing with the puppies, giving the big check. They asked me how Stella's doing and White Sox Steve was just like, oh, did you get Stella from pause? I was like, yeah, dude, that's what this whole thing is.

He's the best, he's the best. I love White Sox Steve. All right, PFT? Yeah, it has been a very long week. I can't even remember all the stuff that we did, but part of my week has been having the pleasure of babysitting Billy Football. We came to to the Chicago office which has been everything that I remembered being and maybe a little bit more he was late on Tuesday morning

showing up now to his credit he stayed I guess that was Wednesday morning he's no he was yeah so he was late on Tuesday too well he was on time on Tuesday but then at night we did Jerry after dark and Billy to his credit big cat called him was like we need help finding all these fucking needles in this haystack Billy answered the phone and said I'm there and just showed up and helped I guess and then didn't really didn't really he found a needle he found a needle and then so we were all up a little bit late on Tuesday night right get to the office on Wednesday morning have an early thing at like 10 a.m. we're supposed to be there for and I get text from Billy being

like hey I'm going to be there before 1030 at some point. And I was a good way to phrase it. I was like okay by the way the time that he sent me that text 1023. Oh okay. He says I'm going to be there before 1030. That's great. It's great. And then he got there at 1030. So that was a fucking lie. So he showed up and he was like sorry dude sorry I30. So that was a fucking lie. So he showed up and he was like, sorry dude, sorry I'm late. I was up until like 4.30 a.m. getting to a rivalry

with somebody about cheetahs. No, no, no, no, no. He goes, sorry, I was up, I was cleaning up the hay. And then like 20 minutes later, he was like, actually I was getting into a fight with somebody about cheetahs. Yeah, you couldn't clean up that. Yeah, because first it was I was doing work

and then it slowly came out. I was getting into a fight with somebody about cheetahs. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, because first it was I was doing work and then it slowly came out. I was gonna know a fight with somebody about cheetahs. So I just got a lot of Billy football this week. Yeah. And another fire fast is that Hank Lockwood doing stand up last night, he's really fucking funny. Like Hank is. Just by the pay-per-view.

Gaslighting. Gaslighting. Hank is so, Hank is so fucking good at stand up comedy. It's not fair like there I was sitting next to comedians and they're like this isn't his first time right now I was like he's never done this before and the he was getting applause. He was getting laughs tears He was actually really good like I was proud of you were good Hank This is gaslight. What have I been telling the entire office? How good you were?

All I know is is my caught max and PFT Having a conversation about me and I turn the corner and in the second that PFT saw me goes We'll talk about later talk about later talk about later so that didn't make me feel good I'm telling everyone that you were really good. This is later because you were I didn't want to say that to your face But you were very very good and people should have not buy a pay-per-view No, they should have very high expectations. Take PFT's word for it. Do not go to barcel.tv slash ppv.

Thank you, Jack. And buy it. Not worth it. Not worth it. Definitely not. Okay, my fire fest is we did have a very long week. We had the shoot where Hank looked at both of our cocks. We, what?

Continue. No, go ahead. No, it's part of it. I think you're gonna get to it We looked for needles in a haystack for six hours. We got hay fever We got hay fever I still like I'm not have not fully recovered because I went to sleep at like I don't know 3 a.m. And got up at 6 30 that sucked. Yeah, we played handball

My question was gonna be after playing handball I play with pros. Do you still believe your take about? Olympics I believe it even more same. Yeah, I believe it in more Josh Allen could be the best handball player in the world right now I was thinking about it It's because the argument with soccer is like if our best athletes played soft, yes You don't even out just quarterbacks. Yes, you could even have bad that un-mobile quarter-match. I'm not trying to stop Lamar Yeah, no. It can't. CJ Stroud, like, you could just take-

Well, maybe if they had to play offs. You could just take quarterbacks and they would win a gold battle. Yes. Yeah. I think like two weeks of training. It's a very fun sport. The guys who came out were so, so nice. JD, especially, he was a great ambassador to the game, explained the whole game to us,

like, so much fun. Who were the- they were from Columbus, right? Oh, they were from all over. Yeah, they took work off. They took school off. They were the coolest dudes, so much fun. Like they showed us the game. I love the game.

I want to play the game again. But, and to their credit, I brought it up to them and they said that it was more the euros get upset about that. Cause I was like, you guys don't think like, Patrick from my home is Josh Allen be awesome. They're like, yeah, of course they would. So they totally, they were normal guys

who totally understood and it's the euros. So we got to get Josh Allen and Patrick from my home's to beat the euros. I think it can happen. For America. Yes. But my fire fest goes into that little gap there where we were up till two in the morning,

which needles and haystack was one of the most difficult things we've done, but I also like, I found myself missing it because it was just guys bonding in the most ridiculous setting. Yeah, I do miss the hay. Yeah, a little bit. But anyway, PFT's birthday on Wednesday,

I woke up and I tried to send him a happy birthday tweet and I completely phrased it wrong and I feel really bad about it. I said, happy birthday to my partner and cried PFT. He makes work fun every day and makes me look good just sitting next to him. Wouldn't want to do a show with anyone else also at Stuart Finer's birthday from Slips and Picks.

I got a few tags in that. Yeah. And I didn't read it the wrong way and then everybody started replying to it. And I was like, oh yeah, I think Big Catch has called me ugly. I was trying to say that being with PFT makes me better, a funnier person. I know what you meant.

And then it came across as like, I like sitting next to him because I look better. No, you just, listen, I've gotten stuff like that before. I phrased it wrong. You basically said like, oh, no, I love you. It's good boyfriend, Dick. Yeah, right, exactly. So stuff like that before. You basically- I phrased it wrong. You basically said like, oh, no, I love you. You know, I got that. It's good boyfriend, Dick.

Yeah, right, exactly. So my bad on that. But you understood what I was saying. I understood, but then- Yeah, I started, people started replying and they're like, oh, that's fucked up to say. I was like, wait, what'd I do? Yeah, no, it was very nice.

And I speak for Big Cat 2 when I say thank you to everybody that reached out. Selling your, celebrating your birthday as a 39 year old male is a little bit weird, which is why we don't really talk about that much on this show. Never talk about it.

But it- Ever do like streams or anything? It did- Finding needles in a haystack. It did mean a lot to me and I know it meant a lot to big cat. Yes. All the people that reached out and said happy birthday.

So we do love you guys. Yes. Yes, in 40 we gotta do something big. Yeah. Edward 40 hands? Yeah. And then try to find some needles. Core is light 40. I would do the needles in the. Edward 40 hands. Yeah. And then try to find some needles. Core is light 40. I would do the needles. 40

needles. I was, it was fun. The only bad part about it was the hay fever that we got because I woke up the next day and I felt worse when I woke up. Probably because of lack of sleep and also just inhaling all that dust. You blow your nose and it's black shout out to farmers by the way I know we have a lot of farmers that listen to this podcast shout out to you guys they were mad we put a there's a oh so mad there's a full recap video VVTV and everyone was calling them what are they calling bales of hay barrels of hay shout out pay she's the best barrels of hay. Shout out, Paige, she's the best. What was calling them barrels of hay?

Barrels of hay. And there was a lot of farmers mad, like you fucking city fucks. Yeah. Bales. We also had, we disposed of the hay in our alley, which we have like a little strip of grass and like whatever. You can dispose of hay? You just put it outside.

But we put it in a big mound. And then we had a couple people hit me up which is a very funny like how how niche and unique this complainant they're like so hopefully next time these guys do it they'll learn that you just don't throw it in a big like pile I was like okay my bad I had no idea what do they want us to do I guess either donate it like Billy was saying to a horse charity yeah Billy was looking for a horse shelter to give it to. Also, I guess you're not supposed to keep it in a big pile because rats will start living in it.

That kind of makes sense. That part makes sense. The page told me she was putting it back there so we could build a paintball arena for it. We spread it out already. And they said also, which also makes sense, is like it's a fire hazard. If you just have a big mound of hay.

Yeah, it does make sense. We're not the smartest. OK, Jake, finish this off. Yeah, first off, Hank, I want to apologize for screwing up the backup of the bonk list. It's alright Second of all, I want to say we'll get him next year, but didn't sound like you accepted the apology Backup boys a very funny name And I would laugh every time you said that do you want me to back you up this year just on everything Do you want to back you up? I official backup boy. You want to see to back you up this year? Just on everything. Do you want me to back you up?

Official backup boy. You want to see Jake back it up? I don't want to say this in front of you guys. What? Don't take your headphones off. Okay. Jake, you should make your own list and then when I get close to doing the bonklet, I'll

just take that list. Okay. Hank's doing less work. No problem. No, no, yes. I heard it all. Yes, back me up. No, but Hank's, he's being a good director.

Yeah, yeah. He's managing. It's teamwork. Yeah. It's called delegating responsibility. Independent oversight. Yeah, exactly. You're being a leader of men.

We're going to have the same ones, but just in case We can compare notes beforehand, but just a heads up. It's not gonna have January of 2024. Okay. That's fine. By the way One last thing about none of us did anything horny it wouldn't it wouldn't be shocking I probably don't shock anyone that Billy like got in like screaming matches on the basketball courts within like the first hour of being here Yep, yep, we were taping and sit in the studio and just heard Billy yelling about, no, the score's wrong. Yeah. We were playing 7's 2 which is just a 3 point shooting game and he bricked like 15 in a row and he's like, just gotta get used to these rims. Well, it's a basketball rim. I miss Billy. I miss him. It was three days was good. Yeah. It was great to be reunited. Yeah. All right Jake go ahead

Yeah, so I botched the birthday cake presentation I put out the lit candles right outside and max saved me from lighting this office on fire Oh, why because by the time I was about to present the candles were basically out that would not have the office on fire It would have just gone out in the cake. Correct. Got it. But it could have. You don't know. No, I actually think that might be the safest place to light candles is in a birthday cake.

Also, it would have been fine. Where would they have burned to? The wax would have just melted down into the cake. Into the cake. My additional firefests is that I should have pushed that cake into J.C.A. Yeah, I was actually kind of upset. I would have felt bad about it.

No, I wouldn't have. Yeah. My additional firefesses, I screwed up the Joe Buck script. We talked about this beforehand. I meant to throw a jab at every little person. Oh yeah, Hank, Jake said that he threw a jab at every person. His jab was, and there's Jake Marsh, who someday wants to take my job in the booth. That's not a jab.

Yeah, I under, well, I, okay, I saw it the wrong way. I'm an idiot. That's the opposite of a jab. Yeah, I'm an idiot. Oh, screw me. It was just funny watching it. I'm an idiot, bad guy. I think it was good, Jake.

Don't beat yourself up. Thanks. Don't beat yourself up. All right, numbers. 18. 39. 20. Today's a day three. That's your 40. Someone's getting it today. I go 39 three someone's 99 21 someone's getting it today. What's your number max 20? 40 like a melody in my head

28 40 like a melody in my head. 28. 28. What's your number, Max? 20. Oh, that's not even close. It's kind of close. Should we do another? I got one of them. You want to do one more?

Yeah. Oh, we have to pre-tape next week. Oh, yeah, we do. And we have to ask every guest that comes on. On what? Wait, did we do one? Shane will be here. I think we've already done one for next week.

What? Haven't we? No. Oh, I don't think so. With... Let's just do one more right here. Okay. This one counts.

Foddy. 71. I'm going back to 71. 18. What's everyone else's? 8. 99. 20. I hope it's 49 so good. 18 What's everyone else's? 99 20

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