Pardon My Take - Boomer Esiason + Archie Manning Is The Kris Jenner Of Football

Episode Date: October 24, 2018

We didn't win the Powerball so we're doing an episode. World Series Game 1 recap (2:27 - 11:16). Does America have a Booger Mobile problem + Archie Manning is the Kris Jenner of the Football world and Giants fans need to embrace Eli's suck (11:16 - 17:04). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Blakes being back in a major way (17:04 - 29:24). Former NFL QB and now WFAN Radio Host Boomer Esiasion joins the show to talk about his career in Football and Broadcasting. Does he have beef with Mike Francesa, what makes a good radio partner, did he see any of the Craig Carton stuff coming and the only time he has ever been high (accidentally) (29:24 - 74:04). Segments include Sabermetrics the Giants going for 2, PR 101 for Mike Greenberg's handshake, Is Lebron hiding from us? True Crime Swag Kelly and Guys on Chicks. You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, we have World Series Game 1, a little recap from Monday Night Football, some trying to figure out some math. We're not math guys, we're gonna figure out some math and we have an awesome interview with Boomer Asiason. Really fun time, we went to the WFAN Studios on Friday, we went on their show, he came on ours, good time and because it is Wednesday guys on chicks, before we get to all of that, Red Dead Redemption. Yup, it's coming folks, Rockstar Games creators of the critically acclaimed and record breaking Grand Theft Auto series are back with their latest

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live the life of outlaw Arthur Morgan in Red Dead Redemption 2, on sale October 26th for PlayStation 4 and Xbox One. Pre-order now at RockstarGames.com slash Red Dead Redemption 2. Again, pre-order now, it's available October 26th, that's just two days away folks. Get it? Again, Red Dead Redemption 2, you can check it out, RockstarGames.com slash Red Dead Redemption 2, rated M for Mature. I'm going to get it so I'll see you guys on the battlefield or the Vanderlin gang. Yeah, don't cross the Vanderlin gang when I'm part of it. Don't do it. Don't do it. Let's go. Welcome to part of my take presented by SeekGeek. Today is Wednesday, October 24th. Five. Okay, hang on. Hold on. Okay, five. I got, ooh, I got one five over here. I got one five.

I got one five. I got two fives, boys. I got a five. I got three fives. All right. Let's go. Okay. Okay, let's go. I got two fives. All right. All right. Let's go, Hank. What's the next one? Okay, 28. 28, 28, 528. Okay, nope. Nope. Nope. Are we already out? We can still want some money if we get, if we only have one missing, we can still want some money. 62. So 528, 62. 62. 528, 62. Check your 62, bro. No, no, not a 20 there. I don't have a single 62. 62. I had one, but oh wait, there's another one. Is it on the same as the five? No. No. Okay. I think we're out. Bubba, any? No. Wait, 62, 28, no. Well, all right. So I guess we have to do a podcast now. Yeah, so the plan was, yeah, we were going to, we pre-recorded our ads so that if we

hit it, we were literally going to say, fuck everyone. Not, not like, but not in a mean way. Like, you understand. You understand. We might give you some money even. Like as AWLs, but fuck everyone. Yeah, no, you're right. Yeah, we would have given away, we're going to spread it around. Every AWL would have gotten at least $10,000, and then we would have said, fuck everyone, now listen to four ads that we recorded an hour. So you guys also lost, right? Yeah. Alongside us, even if you didn't play. We had $440 worth of mega millions tickets as our investment. And you play to win the game. That's right. Yeah, you can't win if you don't play. It's chipping a seat. You know what? At least we tried. Yeah,

we did try. So welcome to part of my take. We are not millionaires. I guess we're still doing this show. Yeah, we're still doing this show, which we love. Yes. But we would have loved a lot more if we were filthy, filthy, fucking rich. We were still done it. We would have done it. We would have popped up again in like two months, and you would have seen like new part of my take. And it would have been us in like fucking Ibiza being like, this has been awesome. Yeah, with probably with worse microphones, just because we just went a lot of drugs. Yeah, a lot of drugs. It might actually be a great show. Yeah, that I think about. We should actually do just what if we won the lottery show? Yeah, that would be fun. We'll spend money like we won the

lottery. Yes. And then do it. Yeah. Okay, perfect. Yeah. So World Series Game One. Let's go. Let's get into the show. World Series Game One, Clayton Kershaw, Chris Sale, a pitchers duel. Except not. Well, it was like I always say, the bullpen wasn't great for the Dodgers. That's the one weakness that they have. You always say it. Well, no, I do. The bullpen is what you say to talk about baseball if you're not really sure. Oh, I think like the Dodgers specifically, because the Red Sox don't have a good bullpen. Well, no team has a great bullpen because bullpen pitchers are just pitchers that couldn't be starting pitchers. So 11 hits for the Red Sox, eight hits. We're actually still taping in the bottom of the eighth, but 19 total hits,

12 total runs. Exactly how we all drew it up. A pitchers duel. The two best pitchers in the last decade in Major League Baseball going against each other. Game one. And you get a slug fest that ends up being eight to four as we're taping right now. Listen, I know it wasn't exactly like a full blown meltdown by Clayton Kershaw, but since it happened in the first couple innings, I get to say that it was a full blown meltdown. Both guys kind of, you know, and I mean, both guys did not make it through the fourth inning, right? They both, I think they both were bouncing the fifth inning with no, yes, with no, uh, outs in the fifth inning. So it was, uh, it's going to be an interesting series. It was definitely one of those games where you expected it to be a pitchers

duel and then it just flipped on its head and it was one of those classic like six hour, everyone bats around, everyone gets a hit kind of game. Just a little free piece of advice to Clayton Kershaw. Grow the mustache out if you're going to grow the beard out like the Amish look. I like that. He's not allowed to use zippers, not allowed to pitch effectively in October. Matt Stafford kind of had the same thing going on for a while and people forget that they knew each other back in high school. Yeah. And then the other big news is everyone won free tacos. The greatest tradition of them all. The first stolen base in the world series, free tacos from Taco Bell. They're very, very sneaky about how they do that because you don't get to get the taco tomorrow.

Yes. So sometimes when you go to a game and like, you know, at the end of the fourth quarter of the wizards are getting beaten 140 to 99, everyone's cheering when they make that last foul shot because you get the taco tomorrow. But in this one, you got to wait till November 1st. Taco day. Day after the world series ends. Day after the world series ends. So Hank, let's kick it to you. Red Sox fan, uh, how are you feeling? Obviously, 1-0. Like, are you, are you a little nervous? The fact that Chris Sale wasn't his dominant self or this is just smooth sailing, however you get it. They're no words. They didn't win, I'd be nervous, but they got the wind. So it should be smooth sailing from here. Just the W.

There were a couple of moments that were a little iffy. Ugly wind counts. Actually, okay, this is kind of a hot manalytics take, but I kind of believe it too. An ugly win is actually worth more than a pretty close win. Because if you can win ugly, that's like a confidence boost. Like, okay, we didn't have our stuff. Well, there's, I think there's definitely something to be said for winning a game without your starting pitcher, your ace dominating and being like, well, we can win any, any way we want. And it gives him more incentive in the games going forward that he will be dominant. It's like the David Price fact that he had so many bad playoffs starts, you knew he was due for a good

one. Chris Sale not throwing a gem means if he pitches later in this series, he's probably going to throw a gem. Chris Sale got rid of his bad start. So now he's absolutely ready to go. I can absolutely buy into that. Also, you had a pinch hitter hitting a homerun. So that's always fun to watch. That is always fun. It's everybody being like, why the hell is he batting this guy? And then he hits homerun. And then Cora looks like he's a genius. Yes. And I think Cora is probably the better manager, right? Yeah. Well, Dave Roberts is a really damn good manager himself. I think both these guys are really good managers. And it's, it's, I mean, playoff baseball is so weird because they can both be great managers, but if they make one big mistake,

it's like you just throw it all out. The lights are brighter in October. And we also had a great picture of Tommy Lassort on Fenway Park on Monday. The picture was sent to us. He's looking spry. He is looking pretty good. He's looking 90 slash 91 slash 92. He is ready to kick somebody's ass. Yes. At all times. I would have liked to see him square off against Don Zimmer, not Pedro Martinez. That would have been a fun fight. He's dead, right? Is Pedro dead? Yeah, both. That sucks. Well, Pedro's neck has died. If you've seen him on the telecast. I also, listen, I think it's squeezing in that collar. I'm not a huge baseball guy, but there is something that's just way cooler about watching baseball when it's cold outside. Oh, absolutely. The guys

are in the dugout and they're bundled up in like jackets, scarves, gloves. The fans. I think it's the fans. The fans wearing, wearing like winter jackets makes the game just feel important. It's not just the winter jackets. It's the combination of them bundled up in like all the warmest stuff and then still drinking ice cold beer at the same time. It's like that, that place looks awesome. Love it. I want to be there. All right. So World Series Game one goes to the Red Sox. We will obviously talk about World Series Game two on Thursday's show on Friday's show. David Price, going to be interesting to see how he, how he performs in the biggest of stages. Now we have to talk about something more important. PFT. Does America have a booger mobile problem? No, no,

I love the booger mobile. The only thing that could improve, as we've said, is if you put booger on a horse and just had him go up and down the sidelines of that. I know there are a lot of people that are like, Oh, boohoo, I can't see for my $500 front row seat because boogers giant contraption that has never been around in the history of the game of football is parked in front of me for most of the game. Well, you know what? Deal with it. I mean, I also think that if you suspend him from the rafters like Sting, not like Owen Hart, not like Sting, that's too soon still for Owen Hart. But like Sting, you could, you could solve this problem of basically, this is going to be a new thing too, where every single Monday night football game, someone's going

to tweet out yelling at the booger mobile, being like, Get the fuck out of the way. Oh, Bill's mafia next week. Dude, when, when is he going to Philly? Oh, my booger is going to get pelted with some shit in Philly. Yeah. I'm not saying I'm on it. I'm just saying it's going to happen. Well, it's nice because they put a giant TV on the back of it. So you can watch TV when you're at the game. I think that's, you know, that's almost even better. Yeah, it's great. But then Booger got into, it was so funny listening to him talk about Odell Beckham. Yes. Odell Beckham, the second half, got up, went to the locker room, everyone's like, Oh, no, is he going to go get him on a boat again? What's going on? And then he came back and they reported he had to use the

bathroom. Yes. And that got Booger fired up. And Jason was like, Oh, it's okay. He just went to the bathroom and then, and then Booger was like, Listen, Jason, when I, when I was on the sidelines, I wouldn't go use a damn bathroom. I would just take care of my business and pee myself pee right there. And then Jason Witton was doing the too much information because that's like the peak of Jason Witton's comedy vernacular is to use it too much information. Oh, whoa, too much. Whoa, keep the sex talk to a minimum booger. I'm actually talking about just pissing our pants. Yeah. Well, that's Jason Witton thinks that peeing is coming. Yeah, that was that's his risqué as he gets. He's slapping NSFW on that one. We don't want to talk about it. And then

when Jason Witton was like, Well, too much information. Boogers like, No, no, no, I want to talk more about this. Yes. I used to pee myself. Yeah. And that was Boogers moment to shine. It was, and it was great. And he delivered in the clutch. Yeah. So the other thing we need to talk about Eli Manning. I have a theory now because Eli Manning is not a good quarterback anymore. And Giants fans, if you were triggered right now, understand what I'm saying. I'll say it again. He is not a good quarterback anymore. That means he was a good quarterback, two Super Bowl ranks, Hall of Famer, all that stuff. He's not a good quarterback anymore. And I, I can't stand the offensive line talk because yes, the offensive line is bad,

but Eli Manning is the king of pressures coming just turtle and not look downfield. They even had a moment where they circled three receivers and they're like, look, everyone's covered. Eli's got nowhere to go and just ignored the fact that there was an open receiver in the end zone, which brings me to my next point, Monday night football crew and American general. It's like you can't say anything bad about Eli Manning. I think Archie Manning is Chris Jenner of football. You think that he's controlling, he's pulling all the, he's the shadow commissioner. He really is. I think he has, I agree with that. He has made it so that with Peyton Manning, hey, remember when he put his balls on someone's face, that one got erased.

He, the, the, uh, Eli Manning fraud when he was selling, that one got erased. And now these are like whatever you want to talk about, but Archie Manning, he is basically controlling the narrative of the Manning family and getting it to a point where I actually think the giant's ownership is afraid Mr. Mara to bench, to bench Eli. And like we said, Ben McAdoo is actually the only one with balls in this world. You remember that what happened last guy? Somebody bitching him. He got the ax. Yeah. Yeah. So that, that sent a message right there. We don't talk shit about Eli, but it's crazy because he clearly is not athletic anymore. He's the least athletic starting quarterback out there. Or, or he's falling into more sacks because his jersey

will get dirty and it's easier to prove that that was actually game worn. True. True. But it's, it's incredible watching him and watching, like even, even Schermer's saying it on the sidelines like, yo dude, Odell was open. Where are you throwing it? He's missing guys. And I know offensive line. I get it. I get it. Offensive line sucks. Russell Wilson's never had a very good offensive line and he makes things work. You have to be an athlete in this, in the NFL these days. You got to make plays with your feet. Eli is incapable of doing that. And I'm saying it again, sir, resign, but here's a spin zone for all of your Giants fans out there. And I'm going to pose this question to you, PFT. Is Eli Manning's legacy two Super Bowls for the Giants or being so bad

his last two years that he tanked his way to getting him to say Kwame Barkley and Justin Herbert? Now we're getting into legacy talk, which I, which I like. I think his legacy is that he beat Tom Brady twice in Super Bowls. Let's not, let's not talk about the fact that his defensive line was like all time good in those days. But I, yeah, I think, I don't think that his legacy is say Kwame Barkley. I think say Kwame Barkley's legacy is being so strong that the announcers will only talk about his squat numbers when he's on the air. It's the easiest filler time ever, but I'm serious with this question because Eli Manning is doing, he's almost like making sure that no Giants fans on the way out can really bash him because he's rebuilding by himself.

By sucking so bad, he's rebuilding the Giants. I think his legacy, if we're being honest, is going to be his hilarious faces. Yeah, well, that's true. That's Eli Manning. Yes. If we're making him out, Rush, more of NFL faces, I think you got to put both Manning's on it. He looks like a little kid in his helmet, no matter how old he is. They should have both of them on their kissing. Yeah, just making out with each other. Did they do that? Oh yeah. Yeah, they did that in a commercial didn't they? Yeah, they made out. Yeah, they did. I'm pretty sure. No, this was a dream you had. Okay. You had a fever dream, but I'm behind it. Yeah, Archie Manning just erased my memory. I'm going to, I'm going to stand with you and just, I'm going to think about it now. Okay.

Yeah, Eli's getting a little more handsy. Peyton just slapped his hands away. Okay. Yep. Yeah, not, yeah, I saw it too. There's maybe an Oreo commercial or something. I don't know. I fucking, I remember it didn't happen. Hey Eli, which cream do you like to lick your's off of? I like to lick. I like to lick it off your tongue. Yeah, Peyton's so funny. Remember that time we threw footballs at those kids? I don't know, like 15 years ago. I know this is becoming a Manning bashing and I actually think that like, and when you, if you're just a football fan, you remove yourself, you're like, guess what? The Manning's been great for football because they're fun to watch and they were both very, very good quarterbacks, but I'm still, Archie

Manning is Chris Jenner and he has controlled the narrative on Eli Manning and Peyton Manning. Got, got Eli Manning basically said that he's going to go be a lawyer instead of play football unless they traded him to the Giants. Yeah. And now there's a lot of talk about trading, sending Eli down to like a contender right now. That's my, I fucking love that when that happens. And so that's also Archie Manning and every time they talk about the Manning brothers on TV or a lot of the time they have to say, and you know, Cooper, the third brother, he was actually a better athlete than the other two. Oh yeah. Of course. So yeah, they're still trying to find him a job. I'm going to look into Archie Manning. I'm going to say that right now. I'm going to circle

it. I'm going to put in my tickler file. I'm going to look into Archie Manning. I don't think you want to say that publicly. Okay. Well, guess what? You guys are going down with me if we do it. All right. Part of this. It's part of this. We win the next mega millions. All right. Let's do our hot seat, cool throne. Hank, why don't you start? My hot seat is the UN's global war on drugs. Okay. Hank, what did you read? Hanks can woke. Oh, shit. The UN did a report and drug-related deaths have increased by 145% over the last decade. And the UN basically came out and said that they're fucked. Well, I think that probably has something to do with the fact that we just started selling prescription heroin to everyone and saying that it fixed your back.

Well, there's that. And also, if you want to get real woke on it, Hank, the UN has discussed many times about how we need to reduce the population of the world because our resources aren't sustainable enough. And so the war on drugs killing more people actually means that the UN is doing their job perfectly for them. That's true. I just thought it was kind of funny how they came out and basically just said, you know, how 10 years ago we said we're going to make a big crusade on drugs. Yeah. We fit. They forgot about the doctors prescribing heroin to everyone and saying it was safe. Yeah, that was like 30 years ago that we all decided that. Well, this was a 10-year study that they were reflecting on. Okay. My cool throne is La Crosse. Okay. Nice. Little ying and yang here.

My other hot seat could have been baseball because La Crosse is coming for that America's Pastime Support of the Future. Native America's Pastime was announced. TV deal. Uh, teams are going to tour the country over a 14-week season broadcasting on NBC Sports. This sounds like a real dud. So they're touring. Investment groups such as The Churden Group. Oh, this is awesome. No, this is going to be great. I think this has a real chance at succeeding and bringing La Crosse, which is the fastest growing sport to not only national, forget national, let's start talking worldwide. Can we invest like this sounds like it's going to print money? Yeah. I mean, it sounds like it's the future doesn't it? When is the season?

Yeah. I don't know when the season starts, but it's a 14-week season. 14 weeks. They should tell you what, double it right down. Wow. Wait till La Crosse players get on Twitter, Petty Wars. You know what, put them on Sundays. I think the Red Zone channel has got a real run for it. Real problem for football. La Crosse gets cooking. That's a sound investment. And soccer. And hockey. Soccer. By the way, going on a 14-week tour across the country, that's just going to be like a bunch of bros with sweet hair just like crashing on people's couches. Paul, Paul Rabble, who's like the best cross player of all time. He's helping start the league and he's also playing in it. Oh. Okay, wait, but get back to the Peter Churnen part. That's the part that I think America

wants to hear more about because that guy doesn't miss. Yep. He's the best investor in the world. Okay. Petty, you go. That was it, Hank? Hot Sequel Throw. Hot Sequel Throw and Hank's done. Put in the minimal amount of work. Okay. The Hot Seat. My Hot Seat is going. If he's been taken My Hot Seat is going to be my teeth because, tell you what, I ran out of toothpaste this morning and I don't know what I'm going to do. So if anyone out there has a toothpaste company. Oh my God. Oh my God. Yeah, actually, we do Dollar Shave Club. It's one of our sponsors. No, I'm just messing around, but I will be absolutely plugging your toothpaste for free if you send me something. Dollar Shave Club is our sponsor. It pays us money. Yes. My real Hot Seat is Lake Houses.

Okay. So I don't know if you read this article that came out, but they were talking about there's the caravan. I did not. Okay. So there's a caravan of refugees and immigrants that are making their way north from like Guatemala up through Central America. They're going to cross the Texas border, at least try to, from Mexico. And they interviewed a woman in Minnesota. Her name's Carol Shield. She's a Minnesota resident. Carol. Yep. She's worried that the refugees are going to take over their Lake Houses up in Minnesota. So she said, she said, we have a lot of people up here who lit, hang on, let me do my Minnesota accent. Sounds like Mike Greenberg with helium. Well, we have a lot of people here who live on the lakes and in the summer and then they winter

somewhere else. When they come back in the spring, their house would be occupied. Yeah. Talk about like the immigrants that'll go north from their warm tropical climate and then just take over Lake Houses in the winter and go ice fishing. Not worried about the fact that all those Lake Houses become meth labs during the winter. Not worried about that at all. Got it. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. They're crystal clear. So if you have a lake house, you might just want to give me the keys right now. I'll look after it for you. Lock the doors because all the Guatemalan refugees are going to spend their winters in Minnesota. Correct. Yep. My cool throne is CTE. So because Merrill Hodge wrote a book about getting the truth about concussions in CTE and none other

than the scholar Ben Rathlisberger has endorsed it. Yes. So he's, I don't know what his blurb says, but I think it's something along the lines of like concussions don't just happen on a football field. They can also happen when you ride your motorcycle or when you try to put a helmet on because your face is so fat. But wait, Ben is the perfect person for a blurb on here because he beat a concussion test a couple years. He's beat so he tanks his baseline. He is someone who has not gotten any dumber from concussions. I think Ben Rathlisberger has probably gotten a concussion from like passing out on his keyboard because he stays up too late. Do you think he uses a computer? Yeah. To Google. Yes. Ben Rathlisberger has a computer. To go on WebMD and research injuries

that he hasn't had yet that he can fake. I'll say it right now. Since the day he left college, Ben Rathlisberger has sat in front of a computer less than 10 times. 10 times. I think you're underestimating Ben's pension for porn, big cat. That's a phone. That's a phone and that's magazines. Now it's a phone. I think he's probably, he's got a desktop that he uses exclusively for porn. But here's the thing. It's not, he doesn't know about the internet. He probably uses his tablet that they give away to, they give for the place. For the team. No. Big Ben has a desktop computer that he uses for porn, but he doesn't know how to hook it up to the internet. So he's just been like trying to Google without an internet search. And so every once in a blue moon,

he'll sneak into his study and just type in like big boobs into the Google search bar. He goes to free ones for sure. He just looks at it. He still checks that out. He opens up a Microsoft Word document, types the words, big boobs and looks at those and then jerks off to that. Yes. Absolutely. Absolutely. All right. Is that it? Yeah, that's it. Okay. I got hot seat, the Oakland Raiders. So the Oakland Raiders, what a season they've had. They just traded a Mari Cooper for first round pick, actually a great trade. I do not understand how the Dallas Cowboys gave up a first round pick for a Mari Cooper. Do you? Yeah, Jerry Jones. Okay. Well, yeah. And the reason is Johnny Walker

Blue. That was a wild trade. As bad as, like as much as we make fun of the Khalil Mack, your trading way, a guy who's in his prime and all that. The Mari Cooper, I actually have a theory that John Gruden is just packaging all the trades together. So when he goes to Mark Davis the end of the season, he's like, well, we traded Khalil Mack and a Mari Cooper for three first round picks. And it's like, oh, okay. Wow. That's a haul. You know how like sometimes you or I might have a little bit too much to drink and go online shopping and we wake up the next day and we see that we ordered, ordered Meryl Hodge's book. I ordered three watches last week. Yeah. Three. They showed up on the same day. It was incredible. I checked my email this morning and it's,

it was a confirmation from Amazon that came through at 2.49. And it said, your, your issue of Meryl Hodge's book on concussions will be delivered in two days. And I was like, well, I don't remember buying that, but you know what? It's good. That's a good surprise to work on, but that's what Jerry Jones deals with. I think on a constant basis is he wakes up around 1145 or so in the morning and he's like, I gave, I gave what for what now? Yeah, but I like it. Okay. It's a wide receiver. Give me some of that glory hole. And so we also have the Raiders because it has been reported that the team basically has a fractured relationship with Derek Carr because they saw him crying, maybe not crying, whatever. He just has emotional eyes in the

London game two weeks ago. I know we joked about it, uh, about him crying on the field. Now, real talk for a second. If you actually think Derek Carr is like, uh, not tough, you're insane. Yeah. He played with a fractured back and played with a fractured back. He just has emotional eyes. Yeah. Broken leg. Well, he's got the mascara, the mascara look on the eyes and a little cry here and there. Sometimes a guy thing, you know, sometimes cars break down. Right. But it's crazy that this is a real story. I don't know what it is, but remember Derek Carr, remember last year was like, the line is not blocking for him because he didn't support Kaepernick. Remember that story? That was a hot one. What is up with Derek Carr? Is he, do people just, is he just

have a shitty personality? Cause I don't think it's the cry thing. He's a tough guy. He's been in the pocket. He's gotten killed a million times, but it's weird that like these stories keep popping up for him. I have no idea. I think with Derek Carr, it's like he's, uh, he's just good enough to suck. Yeah. So he's just good enough to give you enough expectations to be disappointed. Yes. Also, uh, I don't know if you saw, but, uh, Marshawn Lynch is out. I don't know if he's out for the year or if he's out for a long time forever. So this is what tells me that there's something wrong in that locker room. He's out with an injured groin is the explanation they gave. I don't think that Marshawn Lynch is capable of having his groin injured. Yeah. His balls and clearly he is. He's

got it. Very clearly. No, no, he actually, he absolutely is. No. He's got a dick that probably responds like a lizard's tail if it gets cut off, but he's got an injured groin. I don't think he does. Okay. I think he just doesn't want to, I think he doesn't want to play for John Green. He doesn't do a car. Yeah. Well, I think it's, I think it's probably both. Yeah. Um, and then, uh, I don't know if you saw this, but the hard factor guys, you can listen to them every Monday through Thursday, download, subscribe, give them a rating. That's 15 minute news podcast. They got an exclusive with Alex Jones outside of the Cruz Trump rally, and they asked him if the Raiders were doing a controlled demolition of their own team from the inside. Alex Jones actually said, I can, I like

the Raiders because I see a lot of traffic to info wars.com coming from within side that building. Oh, John Gruden, John. Well, Mark Davis, I think John Gruden and probably the same and Tom Cable checking out some stuff that he learned up in Seattle. Jesus. Okay. Well, there you go. The Raiders are the Raiders might be the most interesting one in six team or one in five team, whatever their record is that we've ever had. We'll have to do a power ranking of the most interesting five teams. I mean, Eli is also up there. So, uh, my other hot seat real quick, Britney Spears baby one more time 20 years ago today. So you want to feel old? We are old assholes. Yeah. That that that CD was life changing. Yeah. In retrospect, that was a problematic music video.

Yeah. She was what 16 at the time. Well, we were 13. No, it's fine for us. Yeah. But through today's lens. Yeah. How does that work? Am I allowed to know you're fine. You're allowed to look back and feel the feeling that you felt when you were 13, but you can't look at the video and feel the feeling. So Hank, you know, you weren't alive. You know, fun fact about that. Her cousin was the one that played her love interest in the gym, the guy with the basketball. So yeah, that's not fun. That's creepy. That's no, it's fun. It's even worse. Hey, after you are married, this guy's he's a few of the Nazis, Albert Einstein, smartest man in the world, married, his cousin. All right, there you go. Incest is back. Yeah. Cool throne. I have Blake, Blake's plural, both of our Blake's,

Blake Griffin, 50 burger, Blake Griffin. Like again, real talk. Hank, we watch that whole game. We bet on the pistons. He's got handles and he's like basically changed his entire game, where he shoots really well and he's like credit to Blake Griffin for changing his game. He doesn't have the same hops. He's still got pretty good hops, pretty good hops, but he's being able to, he's, he's evolved his game. No, that's even a better company. He's evolved this game. And Blake Bortles named starter in London. For the second time in two months, he was named starter. That's got to be a record for Blake's. Yeah. Let me say this real quick. Cody Kessler, if you're listening to this, you were so close to getting a hit piece video

on your ass. You dodged a real bullet going. We were so close on Monday. You are lucky, my friend. Listen, let this be a warning to you. No offense. But if I were you, I wouldn't go near that starting job. No. And if you're, you know what the hell that's going to follow with us, if you take Blake Bortles job away from the job that he's earned, the job that he's worked to keep, the job that he's perfected in Jacksonville, you don't want to go anywhere near that, my friend. That's a third fucking rail, Cody Kessler. Deck. Unless Blake Bortles is friends with Cody Kessler, then just ignore everything we just said, because then you're our friend. Or if you're just a nice guy. So is it Blake at the year talk that

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because you've been in like the business for so long? You're a media guy. You know, I'm a little bit of both, man. You know, I've learned one thing about being in the media. You better have a sharp opinion where you're not going to be successful for very long. And I always tell athletes if they get mad at me or coaches if they get mad at me, look, I got a family to feed. Yeah. You know, I got to pay bills just like you guys do. And just because I played with you, I may understand some of the troubles and trials and tribulations you're going through, but that doesn't mean I can't give an honest of goodness taken and, you know, bring the credibility that I'd like to think I have to the table. Yeah. Which player of coaches got in the most angry with you?

Well, I'll tell you what, man, there's been a lot of guys here in New York. Man, it's probably, I'm sure Rex had a few issues with me. I'm sure that Ben McAdoo said a few issues with me. Maybe even Tom Coughlin for that matter. You know, because when you're, when you're criticized, nobody likes to be criticized. Let's face it. I'd much rather be covering Super Bowl teams. You know, when the Giants went those two Super Bowls, that stuff is easy because now you're just celebrating giant lore and giant history and great giant players and you're bringing back all the old guys, you know, from the, from the 80s that won Super Bowls. Man, when they go South and they've been South five out of the last six years, it's tough because you got to be critical.

You know, you don't have to be mean-spirited about it. And I don't want to go after anybody personally, but God, man, if you don't bring an honest goodness take, then the fans, you know, think that you're a fraud. Yeah. Was there ever one that you wish you could take back? You know, I got into it once accident, accidentally with like Troy Aikman, Troy Aikman. I basically, I heard one of his games and of course it was a, I think it was a game that had something to do with the Patriots. And I was doing a WEEI hit every Monday morning up there during the football season. And I kind of agreed with the guys on the air that maybe Troy had a bias take because he was a cowboy, which is asinine on my part. I just kind of got duped and I got like dragged

into it and I agreed and, and I felt bad. I really just, because I know Troy works hard and Troy is a pretty, is a great broadcaster and I actually had to send an apology to him because I was wrong. How did you write him a note? I just, I can't remember if I reached out to him via voicemail or send him an email. I can't remember. It was probably a good 10 years ago now. Yeah, credit to you. Yeah, a lot of people probably wouldn't do that. I probably wouldn't do that. Sometimes you feel like you said the wrong thing or you've, you've gone. I even got into, you know, an issue with Daniel Murphy missing opening day because his wife was giving birth. Oh, you are a football guy. Yeah, but I was, I was, I basically, you know, just said, you know,

something really stupid about a C-section and all this other crap. And then I got myself embroiled in this and then of course your boy Matt Lauer takes me to task on. Oh yeah, he is. Definitely someone who can take people to task. Disavow. Yeah. So I was basically, you know, under C-sh for about a week because of my, my inappropriate way of describing something. How do you deal with that? Because I know we, we've, we've had it in our, you know, from our side. We've been under siege before many times, but I always wonder a guy like you who's got both the success in his football career and then success in his media career. Does it still kind of, can people bother you? Not bother you. I don't want to, you know what I learned from my,

my previous partner, Craig Carton is that when you walk out of this studio, just forget what you said. And you do that? Yeah, I try. I try to do the best I can. And, and remember that this is about entertaining people. You know, people check your podcast out because they want to laugh. They want your unique take on things and you guys are, you know, full of crap half the time, right? But it's, but it's funny, but that's what people are listening for. That's what they want. So it's funny that you say that because like when I walk out, when we're done with the podcast, I black out while I'm doing it. So I don't remember what I just said. And then it takes like somebody reminding me the next morning, what I said, they're like, Hey, there's the Twitter

police. Yeah. They always remind you, you know, and I usually, if I, if I have a bad take on Eli Manning, which I probably have had the last three years, you know, I'll hear from the giant fan like, Oh, you didn't win any Super Bowls. You're jealous. You're this, you're that. I'm like, I mean, no, I'm not. I'm just, I like other fans that reach out to you and they're like, Hey, you never won any Super Bowls. So you can't say anything. Yeah. I'm happy you brought that up. Like you didn't win a Super Bowl. Yeah, I didn't. Yeah, I'm happy you brought that up. Yeah. So we need to bring that up. That's okay. It's fine. I want to. Is that why you hit the Yankees? You guys sitting on the field with me. Yeah. Is that why you hit the Yankees? Why do I hit the Yankees?

Because they win a bunch and you didn't? Yeah. So that's the take. That's the take that everybody knows. That one was actually fed to me by someone at our office who's like, I've always thought that Boomer just hates the Yankees because he never won the big one. That's a hot take. That is a hot take. That's Tommy Smokes. Do you look down at us and you're like, Hey, these guys never played the game? No, no. How dare they talk about my game? No, I mean, no, I think it's great. I think the more interest the better. I mean, after the last five years in the NFL, right? Imagine where I'm sitting. So I'm discussing domestic violence. I'm discussing flag protests. I'm getting involved with Charles Barkley getting in arguments on the TV. Like, you know, and I'm like the guy that's

trying to think of a way to bring this thing, you know, sanity to it all. And this is the first year that I can remember in the last five, at least, that we're at least celebrating the game. And guys like you perpetuate that celebration by what you do on your podcast. So I'm all welcome. Yeah. I think the NFL is at a high point over the last five years. So are you going to give us part of your paycheck? No, we're making you an irrelevant. Do you think, do you ever sit back and like, man, I wish I was born like 20 years later, because I would put up stats, because you put up 30 years later, but you put up like crazy stats for the error that you played in. Yeah, you know, all the guys that we played with and against it all had great careers. You know,

most of the quarterbacks think back on my era, they all stayed with their teams for a long period of time, 10, 12, 13 years and got the shit beat out of us. We really did, you know, and and I looked today's game and I love today's game. I love the fact that the quarterbacks aren't getting hit as much as we got hit. I love the fact that they can stay on the field longer and that they can play longer because that's what we love. We love the guys like Brady and Breeze and Rathausberger and Rivers. Man, you dial in on a Sunday, you know, those guys are going to be there, hopefully putting up big numbers. So yeah, I wish I were 30 years younger than I wouldn't have gotten into this business, I don't think, but uh, but I also know this that I'm like

in a weird spot because the guys today are making so much freaking money, but they don't have to do this every day for a living like I do. Right. Right. Yeah. That's true. Think about that for a second. Yeah. Yeah. How many idiots from this day and age are going to get up at 415 every morning to do a morning radio show? I could see Phillip Rivers doing it just because his kids have already gotten him up and he's just got, he has to have an outlet to say his weird stuff. So I could see him though, but yeah, you're right. Like there's no reason for those guys to develop that skill afterwards. True. And thank God, I'm just glad that Peyton Manning doesn't want to do this for a living. Let's go that way. What is he going to do? If you, yeah, if you were in his shoes, like he,

the world is your oyster. He could pretty much go anywhere, have any job and media that he wanted, or he could go be a GM somewhere. What would you do? I think he wants to be a GM or an owner, like a Derek Jeter type. Yeah. Which is ruin a team and give away all the good money. He's trying to rebuild. He just got there, man. Just give him a break. He sold the statue. He sold the statue. Good. He should have sold that statue. But I would have liked Kristen Yellich for my team as opposed to the Brewers, but my team, the Mets, doesn't do anything like that. Won't do anything like that. So you got pitching. We do have pitching, but yeah. You got pitching. I'm a great team doctor too.

Hey, I'm just noticing that NYPD softball jersey behind you. Was that, is that your jersey? That is not my jersey. That was actually the precinct, the precinct 105. They lost three officers there. So we, uh, Craig and I, when Craig Carton was here, we had a softball game at Yankee stadium. Yeah. And we had, I know what you're asking. And I know what he's asking. We raised a ton of dough. Yeah. Was that the one with Chris Christie? Yeah. Chris Christie, Rudy Giuliani. Yeah. That's the famous picture. Yeah. When you saw Chris Christie walk in wearing those pants, what, what crossed your mind? I, I felt bad for him actually, because I knew that that was going to be the story. Okay, Chris, you're allowed to wear underwear.

But you know what's great about Chris Christie though? He didn't give a crap man. He just, he didn't care. He didn't care when anybody thought he was out there at third base, rolling around at third base. I mean, he just didn't care. I would, I would imagine he didn't care with that, with that. Whatever you want to call it. I get it. I have to tell you that I wish I had a little of that in me, like where I didn't care. I care too much. Yeah. I care too much. I want to make sure I look good in the uniform and all that other stuff. He just didn't seem to give a crap. He didn't care about what anybody thought. Is that a good thing? I think it is a good thing. Well, when you've got an entire state that's your private beach, you really don't

care what anybody's, nobody will tell you anything. You have your private bridges. Yeah, you don't pay for the subways. Yeah, I get it all. It's got to be nice. Man, you're, you're just caught the hook line and sinker, right? Yeah. Political bullshit. You mentioned, you mentioned your former partner, Craig. I wanted to just bring it up quickly. I know you can't get into like the, the details of it, but the interesting part from my side is you wake up one morning and it's like if PFD, I woke up one morning and it's like, Hey, you guys aren't going to be doing the show anymore. What was, was it just pure shock or how did that kind of, how did that, you know, progress over that morning through the next couple of days? Well, you know, I came in that morning

and, uh, and I've said this before, so I'm not saying it for the first time here. Give us something new. I'll try to do this like it, but I came in that morning and Al Dukes basically told me Craig wasn't coming in. He got a call from Craig's wife that he's not coming in. I figured that he was ill. He was sick or whatever. And it was, it was, uh, the Wednesday after Labor Day. So we had a three day weekend. We were coming off of a long vacation prior to that. So I, I basically start the show by saying, you know, numb nuts is not going to be here today. He's already taken a sick day. You know, like I was pissed that he wasn't in and, uh, cause I know he was the engine that drove the show. And then around seven 15 and started popping up on the, uh, the internet that

he was arrested. And then all of a sudden on the TV screens here in the studio, as you can see, on the scrolls on the bottom, you can see that Craig carton co-host of boomer and carton. So now my name is on TV and it was arrested by the FBI this morning. And, uh, so we came back from break and I'm on the air on high definition on CBS sports network, as well as here on WFAN. And I was just like, wow, um, I know what everybody sees out there. Um, as shocked as everybody else's, I was taken. So you fully found out while you were on air. That's crazy. Yes. And the Twitter feed. And then I remember Mark Chernoff, our program director came in here and said, don't say anything. And I'm like, wait, don't say anything. I mean, we're like, we're, we're a sports, a sports talk

show. And they, and the guy that I host a show with is not here. I have to say, right. So I just tried to be honest and spoke right directly into the camera and was shocked because it would have been strange if you didn't say anything. Dude, I was, I was, I was, uh, I was floored by the whole thing, the enormity of it. And when you, when you get, and you sit back and then you start talking to your coworkers about some of the things that led up to it, maybe you can connect the dot here or there about some pressure in his life and all that other stuff. I still believe in him. I believe that Craig has got a really good, compassionate heart. Um, I, I, I used to make fun of him here because of all the different things that he has wrong with him. You know, he has like OCD. He's

got ADD. He's, he's a, um, he's got restless leg syndrome. He's got a touch of Tourette's. I mean, that's what made him so good on the air. Yeah. I was gonna say that sounds like the perfect combination for a sports talk show host. Right. It was. And, uh, like I said, he never cared about anything that he said. And I'll forget maybe the best day that we had, I don't know, maybe it wasn't the best day for the subject matter. But for me, I came back from a Monday night football game. It was an early Tuesday morning and Alan Craig are bouncing off the walls and I'm like, what, what is going on? Oh, we got something. We got something that nobody's got out there. And I'm like, what, what is it? So I went into Craig's office and Alan Craig play this video on the

internet and I hear this voice and I'm like, I know that voice. What's the voice? I'm like, Jesus, is that Rex Ryan talking about his wife's feet? Oh, Eddie's like, yes, we got it. Nobody has it. So we broke it that morning and I'm like, man, fourth in a foot will never be the same. Yeah, never. You know, I mean, we went on for like three days with that and it just totally engulfed the radio station and the way that Craig manipulated that I thought was brilliant. But, uh, you know, I just hope that whatever happens to Craig that it's not too serious and that somehow some way he gets his career back on track, which I think he will. Yeah. I'm thinking maybe like, if something does happen where he does lose this court fight, maybe it becomes a

Martha Stewart kind of person where he comes back and, you know, redeems himself or whatever. But I still believe my heart, I believe that he got confused and a lot of things happened where we don't know the full story yet and hopefully, you know, somebody on the jury will see it that yeah, I just have to ever judge somebody because you know, you don't know what's going on there. Everybody's got their things. We have to. We have to meet your reaction, guys. How long did it take for the shock to kind of like wear off? I don't know, man. Last year is a fog. The whole fall for me was a fog. Thankfully, you know, Eddie and Al and Bobby and Jerry were guys that I worked with were great and we all kind of fought through it together. But it was the radio station was in a

real state of the, I don't know, shock, I would say everybody was depressed around here. And then, of course, you had big Mike retiring at the same time. So you had a lot of different things going on and you had a lot of different decisions being made by people who are no longer running the company because the company was switching. So you had CBS leaving, Entercom coming in, Mike was retiring, Craig got arrested. You had, you know, you had to try to fill the afternoon show. So you had new personalities coming in here. It was crazy. It was like, I wish, you know, I wrote down notes about all of it and everything else and maybe someday I'll reflect back on it. Maybe I'll write a book about those six months or four months, I should say, but it was, it was pretty difficult.

When you put it that way, it sounds like a season of Mad Men, like all the all the shit that goes down at one time. Now, when you were trying to figure out who was going to take over, who you're going to click with, how did you know that like, okay, Gio's the guy like how me and Big Cat said earlier, when we both agreed that Coward and Junior did steroids, or at least that we should talk about it because it's funny. How did you know? Was there like a moment where you're like, okay, this is my guy? I don't even think Gio knows this. You know, I had people coming into my office that, you know, out of the blue, just telling me how great Gio was. Now, I've known Gio for a long time. I've taken him to Monday night games to see his Vikings and, you know, and like, so we have a

somewhat of a reasonable relationship. I saw him over here at CBS every morning with Brian Jones, and we love having Brian came. He used to come in on Fridays and do football Fridays with us after Craig was arrested and everything, and Brian was great. So I knew who Gio was, and I kind of knew how funny he was. I just didn't know how funny he was. And then it just took a little time for us to find some synergy and all that other stuff. And then once he finally let it loose, and I forget which day it was, it was probably about a month and he went off on something and I'm like, there's my guy, that's the guy, and he's going to be great. And he's a Long Island guy like me, plus he's younger than me, which I think is great, because it gives you a different perspective.

He's younger than me by one day. I tell him all about Odd Futures and all the good bands that are out there. It's kind of funny, you guys talked about my daughter, Sidney, right? So I have a son, Gunners, 27, Sidney's 26, Sidney's going to get married next summer. So I'm at a different stage in life than Gio is. Gio has a newborn at home. He's 36 years old. He's trying to, he's got a new job. He's got all these things coming at him from different sides. So it's a little fricking frack on our end. That works. That does work, man. And it's been really good.

I should hire a 19-year-old just to hang out with you to keep you even younger. Well, I told Gio when we were leaving, our office is full of a lot of New York guys who listen to this station. And like it happened probably about a couple months ago where I heard the conversation. They're like, you know, they liked Boomer and Carton, but they're like, man, Gio's really good. Like I like this show now. And I think that having that validation where it's like, oh, yeah. Because of course, his impersonations are spot on of the guys that work on the station. Yeah. So when he goes into those impersonations and he does not hold back. So yeah. So we heard about that. So we're not, P.F.T. and I obviously aren't New York guys. So

you're going to have to explain this to us as simple as possible. Like maybe we're five-year-olds. Why do you hate Mike Francesca? I don't hate him. I think he's actually good for the station. And I think he's great for us in the morning because we make fun of everybody. We make fun of ourselves. We make fun of Joe and Evan. We make fun of CMB. We make fun of Steve Summers. If you work here, we make fun of you. And we make fun of our own selves, especially when you listen to Eddie Scisseri with all the drops that he drops into our show. And he tries to make us look ridiculous. So know everybody's fair game to the people who work here on the air and off the air.

Do you wish he would reciprocate it sometimes? He should. I mean, sometimes he does. You know, sometimes, you know, he'll say we're jealous or whatever, you know, mindless, whatever. Okay. Here's that headline. I'd like to grab Boomer Siesen says Mike Frances is mindless. Yes. Well, I mean, Mike Francesus said Boomer is mindless. That's great. Mike Francesus said. Boomer upset that Mike Francesus thinks he's mindless. You know, the funny thing is, is that the other shows here do take shots at me.

Right. Like Joe Mendingo, Boomer, he knows nothing. Or, you know, Chris Carlin would take a shot at me and call me stupid or whatever, which is fine, which is it's all good nature. And I don't take any of it seriously. And that's exactly what it is. We're all about Boston balls. It's about sports. You know, are we really going to get upset about somebody's take on a sport? So do you ever, do you ever interact with Mike? Do you ever see him? I don't really see him that much every now and then we'll do a company thing and we'll be together. I know we had that company retreat or something over at a city winery and he came up on stage

and I gave him a big hug in front of everybody. Oh, nice for the picture. Yeah, whatever. You know, we actually live in the same town. Every now and again, I'll see him in the same town. And then you get the paper. You rev that engine and try to run him over. It was kind of funny. I did see him and I will say this after Craig got arrested and I gave my credit for this. After Craig got arrested, Mike, I ran into him in the hallway here and he looks at me and goes, oh, I'm going to have to get a new partner.

It was pretty funny in his own way. I mean, I think that was the dig that he was taking at Craig through me, I guess. I don't know. But he had every opportunity to go after Craig on the air and he never did that. You know, so and I think the reason he didn't do that is because he felt like Craig has a wife and children that are dealing with some heavy lifting right now and nobody wants to take a shot at somebody in this situation. Right. If you have a bad take on the air, you don't agree with somebody on the air, you can go after him that way. But I think Mike has always been above board in regards to not attacking Craig after being attacked by Craig for about eight years in the show in particular.

Yeah. So when you were getting into this business, was there somebody out there that you looked up to someone that you were like, I want to do what that guy does? Not really. Not really. I mean, I started back at the University of Maryland. So I was an intern at the WJZ Television Channel 13 in Baltimore. So you're probably a big grease man fan then. I did. I love the grease man. Yes. Yes. Yes. So but here's the thing. That was TV. So I worked for Gail Gardner. I was cutting tape for Gail Gardner. She was doing the news anchor. She was the news anchor or sports anchor down there, I think prior to her going to ESPN. And you know, who with a local reporter on the staff there at Channel 13 was? Who? Oprah Winfrey. Wow. So I was

at Channel 13 when Oprah Winfrey was there. Now I didn't become the billionaire. Did you make her too? Like you made my play? No, no, no, no, no. But you know, it was kind of interesting. You just never know where you're going to get your start. So that opened me up to like the sports media world. And I loved it when I was at Maryland and I became, you know, just pretty good at it. Yeah. And then I was a part of the IMAS show here. So the way I got the job here is I was calling into the IMAS in the morning, uh, radio thong that they were raising money for the CJ foundation for SIDS. Joel Hollander was the boss here. He lost his daughter CJ, uh, Carly to a SIDS. So they were raising money for that in the IMAS ranch. Right. So it was back in 2007 in April. I was calling

in to make a donation. Now IMAS had just put in put on suspension because of the nappy headed hoe comments that he made about the Rutgers women's basketball program. I'm out in Arizona on a golf course playing golf and I'm calling in and a scissori is on the board and he says, we're not taking any more calls boomer. I miss just got fired. I miss just got fired and he hung up on me. It was all nervous. And I'm like, Oh my God. So two seconds later, my agent Steve Rosner calls me. Why? Because he's in studio with Joel Hollander because they're raising money and Deirdre IMAS is running the show if I remember correctly. And my agent says to me, how do I do morning radio? This is how these people think, right? Yeah. I mean, the carcass is not even in the ground.

Got to do it. And there's somebody's already thinking about the replacement. And I'm like, I don't know. They're going to pay me like IMAS because you're getting paid like a starting quarterback in the NFL at that time. And they said, well, maybe who knows? I said, okay, I'm interested. And then they, uh, they went from there. They put me on the air for about a week. And I liked it. It was okay. And then they put me in Craig in a studio in July. And I really liked it because I like Craig's take on things. And then I said, I think I could do this. Was there ever a moment at the beginning where you thought you were going to kind of be the quarterback with Craig? And then you realize, yeah, initially you have the awkwardness, right?

When you first get together, right? Who's starting the show? Who's taking you out of commercial? Who's bringing you back from commercial? And there was this awkward kind of like, I'll do it on the even hour. You do it on the odd hour. And then I realized, I'm like, wait a minute, he's the freaking radio guy. He's really good at it. Let him do it. Let him set the content. Let him set the show. And, um, and I think it worked out that way. And every now and again, I would take it back when I felt like I had something to say, but Craig was good that way. And then I had to learn that Geo could do that too. That's a whole another thing. So when Geo first got in here, I had just come off for four months of kind of running the show with Jerry.

Right. So I was more active and more setting the show, which, uh, I didn't really like. Yeah. What was the biggest fight you would get into with Craig? Cause I always find it interesting, you know, we obviously have PFT and Hank and I, you know, we're very close. We're, it's basically like a family. It's a marriage essentially where you're with each other all the time. And we always laugh. Cause when we get on the road, we'll be on the road for like a week and we'll have that one moment where we'll be sitting in an Uber and we just won't talk to each other. It's like everyone needs their own space. Did you have that with Craig or never had really one crossword with Craig throughout the nine or 10 years that we worked? You just did a passive aggressively. We never,

we, we leave the studio. We never had a bad day. That was crazy. Never a bad day. And I never, I never, we have problems big cat. Yeah. I don't know. I'm not striking out. Stripes is okay. Yeah. We fight. Yeah. What are you saying? It's just like, you know, occasionally you're around somebody. It's like, if you have a sleepover with the same friend for five nights in a row, okay, it's probably time to just go home and sleep their own beds at some time. I'm sure that he probably at times, this is the whole self-awareness thing, right? So I think that he probably felt at times that I felt like I was the athlete and I was the MVP and all this other crap things about me. Exactly. So there may have been some whatever, you know, stress there

or maybe I thought that he was this radio crazy guy that was making this crap up. But at the end of the day, I think we all realized that was four hours of entertainment. We tried to do the best we possibly could and not only through he and I, but with the rest of the guys that we worked with because they became more and more and part of the show. And as you see today, it's the same thing with Geo. Geo is fit in seamlessly. Like he is the guy that sets the show now. He's the guy that drives it wherever we want to drive it to or wherever he wants to drive it to. And I should let him do that because he's really good at it. And if you are at the one I will tell you, the quarterback mentality is get the guy to ball and let him do the heavy lifting.

I thought it was cry to the referee if you get tackled too hard. That may be the case, depending on what team you play for. Do you want to apologize to us for being a lefty because lefty quarterbacks are gross. We're not gross. We're awesome. We're awesome. I know it's hard for you guys to watch us very hard when you watch to it down there at Alabama. Is that hard to watch? Well, it's mostly the cats upset left handed quarterbacks. Wisconsin has a really bad right. Yes, if you have a left handed quarterback that isn't very good, it's the ugliest thing of all time. I'm going to tell you about you have a quarterback on the University of Wisconsin roster that eventually is going to take over. Oh, who's that? He's from

Long Island. His name is Jack Cohn. Okay, you can look him up. He's a one star. What's that? He's a one star. He's a five star. No, shut up. I'm telling you, we do not have a five star cry. He's already there. He's on the roster. This is his second year. There must be something wrong with him. No, it's not. It's okay. It's okay. By the way, you know that he's going to transfer somewhere. Wisconsin has actually won with this quarterback that you have now. I know. I know. I give him a hard time. It's more than what you think. It's a college kid, but it's a college kid. You've got to relax with that. I am. Attack your athletes. I'm making millions of dollars. I'm making a morning for Heisman shirts. I have morning for Heisman shirts, but no, it's more PFT. I actually,

I agree with you to some level that like, don't go all in on college kids, except Duke players because they're getting paid just as much as the pros. But PFT brings up a good point. It's when a, when a lefty quarterback screws up, it's basically the worst quarterback play of all time. It looks hard. It's hard for you guys to understand that we actually can play. No, we understand it. These are dumb brains are so conditioned to seeing a guy throw past his right hand. Yeah. And if you mess us up with his left hand, we're like, oh, it's because he used his left hand. Well, this generation doesn't really have any left hand. No, Pat Mahomes. That's why that's it. Pat Mahomes pretty good. Yeah. He's one for one. I love it. Yeah. There's not,

there, I mean, two is going to be the guy. And then you see, you allegedly say this mysterious man who Wisconsin has. Yeah, but he's not a lefty. He's a righty. Oh, okay. Oh, thank God. The Long Island righty. Huh. Long Island righty. Jack Cohen. Hopefully I'm right about that because he dominated football in Long Island, which is not great football, but still football. And he elected to go to Wisconsin because I, as I heard supposedly now I'm getting a second hand when he went there for his visit, right? They brought all these other big offensive linemen in that were there visiting with him. And the coach said, look at these guys. They're your offensive line when you become like, you know, 19 or 20 years old. It's crazy that we never can get a

quarterback because of what you just said. Like why wouldn't a quarterback want to play behind a huge offensive line here every year? All those big offensive linemen in Wisconsin want to play at Wisconsin. Right. Isn't that like the craziest thing ever? But then we play a pro style offense and don't really, you know, like I think, I think what happened in the game has changed so much that guys want to go and they want to play in the spread. They want to throw the ball 60 times a game. I kind of feel sorry for you guys, but you know, I am the University of Maryland and we're not doing too well. You guys are in the big 10, by the way. Yes, we are. No, you are. I have not given, I have not granted it. Yeah. Well, we beat Minnesota. We can beat Indiana. Oh, Minnesota.

Oh, Rutgers. Oh my God. No, Rutgers isn't in either. Yes, they are. Yes, they are. No, they are. We get the check. You got a big 10 on the check. We got it. You got to beat a big boy. Listen, if Texas was in the big 10, you guys would be in the big 10. Yeah, that's right. We beat Texas. Yeah, you guys got their number. We got to be the SEC team or big boy in the big 10. Texas is where real football is played and we are in Texas. Yeah. No, you know, after you were down in Austin, you know what I'm talking about. I do know. Yeah. I'll tell you when you're in the big 10. I spoke a lot of weed down there in Austin. Of course. You're kidding me? Yeah. It looks like it. You kidding me? You smoke weed? No, I don't. You ever smoke weed?

Never. You know, nerd. With tree mango? No, never. No, the only time I've ever been high on weed, though. All right, dad. Now we believe you. You're quitted there. Yes, okay. So I am 57 years old. And yes, I was a little bit straight line, but I will say that the only time that I've gotten high was when I was doing a game up in Sullivan Stadium back in the day because the radio booth was on the opposite side of the press box and it was like a lean to in the stands. And it was a really just dreary Monday night. It was Kansas City versus obviously the Patriots. Both teams were like, three and nine or something. It was one of these ugly Monday night games, kind of like the Thursday night game we just had between Denver and Arizona. And there was some guy outside of our booth

smoking and blowing the air underneath the booth. So Matt Millen and I were working with Howard David that night. And he and I halfway through the first quarter are laughing and giggling. And we are starving. So I figured those are all the attributes and symptoms of being high. Yeah, I'm assuming. Matt Millen got stoned. Was he wearing his overalls? He was not wearing his overalls, but the next year he left that booth and went to go run the Detroit Lions. Yeah, that worked out well. At least he could say he did it. Yeah. I mean, you did Monday night for we did the TV for a minute. I got fired and replaced by Dennis Miller. Yeah, because you didn't get along without Michaels, right? It was something like that. What happened? Who doesn't

get along without Michaels? That's a good question. I don't know how many actually, you know, I was a novice. I got into the booth. I was a novice. I worked with him and Dan Dewaroff the first year. I thought we I got along great with everybody. And then out of the blue, Dan was let go. I'll never forget over at the Pro Bowl because we did the Pro Bowl back then and he was let go. Then it was me and Al in a booth together and it just never clicked. Yeah, never got along. I can't imagine what that was like getting fired from that job and then watching Dennis Miller like the next year and you tune in, you're like, okay, but that's why I took the radio on Monday night. I took it. So interestingly enough, it goes back to Joel Hollander again, who hired me for WFN or got me

the job offer for WFN. He was running Westwood One Radio at that time. So that was 1999. And I got fired and immediately after I was fired, he asked me, would you want to do the Westwood One Monday Night Radio booth? And I'm like, well, come on, I'm not doing radio. I'm looking down on radio. I want to do more television. You're a TV guy. Yeah. Right. And there were a lot of other people that got fired with me. Leslie Visser got fired. Producer and director Jan Off and Wolfe, they got fired and like 30 people got axed with me. So it wasn't just me. Al hated all of them. Whatever. But I made the mistake. I don't know if it was a mistake, but I did say ABC stood for Al's Broadcasting Company. So I took a couple shots on the way out like you normally should.

I felt good about doing it. So I got it off my chest. But then I took the radio deal. And then I was doing Monday Night Radio. And a couple of times I ran into Dennis Miller. You know, I have no angst against Dennis Miller. He wasn't out to get my job. They just offered it to him. Right. So and they also had Dan Fouts in the booth. And they had Eric Dickerson on our sidelines. So they changed the whole thing around. And, you know, and Dennis Miller tried to bring his brand of humor to a football game. It didn't go over very well. No, it didn't work. By the way, I got a bone to pick with you because your show was on Showtime at like midnight when I was, you know, 13, 14 years old, trying to find something good. If you know what I'm saying.

Yeah. Maybe like, okay, I got to sit through an hour of this guy talking about football before I get to change. You love it though. It inspired you. Yeah. Yeah. I absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. I will say this when I look back when it's all over said and done with, I've had two of the best chairs that you could possibly ever have in sports broadcasting. Actually, three, if you count Monday Night Football on television for two years, but the NFL today and inside the NFL, those two chairs, man, that is, they're awesome, awesome jobs. Yeah. Inside the NFL is like one of those classic. I just, every time it's on, it's like, gotta watch it because it's just the highlights are unbelievable. Yes. Yes. Yeah. And that's how you fall in love with the

game. Yeah. All right. We've got a couple of questions left. Let's do the C-keek question real quick. You got it. Put in promo code, take you $10 off, go see boomers, Rangers, Luz, promo code, take C-keek. Do you want to talk about the Rangers? Is that a live read? Did you just do a live read through your podcast? Do you want to talk about anything? You just suck at it. No, that was pretty good. C-keek. C-keek. Yeah. Yeah. You, oh, I'm sorry. Do you not remember what I just said? Sounds like I did a good job. Maybe you just read C-keek back to me. What's the promo code? A fan, I think. No, it was take. You know it's take. You know it's take. Do you want to talk about your shitty Rangers? My Rangers is not shitty. My Rangers are young. They're hungry. They're

feisty. And you saw that down in Washington on a back to back against a veteran who just does nothing but go out there on a power play and just shoot. That's all he does. Yeah. Because he's super hungover for winning a Stanley Cup. Exactly. I mean, act like you've been there. Oh, that's right. He had never been there before. So, you know, acting like he'd been there before. How many Stanley Cups have you won? Longest. One since I've been alive. Oh, personally? Yes. Yeah. Well, I consider me an extension of the 94 Rangers. Yeah. I was there for every single game. My son was on my lap. I was getting a lot of crap at home because my son who had CF, I would take him to every single Ranger game. And I told him then, although he doesn't remember it, that you may

never ever see this again. So, we're going to experience it together. No one will. So, you missed the OJ chase because you're too busy watching your hockey. The OJ chase was going on during the Knicks series. And the Knicks were playing the Houston. And I was actually at a bachelor party. And people were not interested in what was going on at the bachelor party. They were more interested in what was going on with OJ and Al Cowings and the White Bronco. I'm pretty sure the Rangers played that day. But by the way, you probably didn't know that I was front and center of the OJ trial. No, I didn't know that. Yes. So, my sister, who's no longer with us, just was fascinated by the whole OJ trial, the reality, nature of the TV and the courtroom and

all that other crap. And out comes this huge photo of me being interviewed by OJ at one of our playoff games. And he's got the gloves and the Bruno Maggles on. Oh, the ice. And I am right there, center of the whole courtroom and the whole world to see. And I was one of the shoes. The shoes. There's like 100 of them. Those gloves that didn't fit. They said that day. That right now. That's crazy. All right. So, that was not the Seeky question because we really didn't want to talk about the Rangers. The Seeky question is, do you like Skyline Chili? I do. Gross. I'm not crazy about it, but I like it. I mean, that's a no. That's a no. That was a pander. That was a pander because you've still got to sign autograph and Cincinnati.

It's Cincinnati fast food is what it is. Okay. That's their version of fast food. If you never had to sign another autograph in Cincinnati, would your answer be different? I don't actually go back to Cincinnati and sign autographs. What's your favorite part about the Skyline Chili? Is it the fact that it tastes like poop or the fact that it looks like poop? Or that makes you poop. It helps me poop. Yeah. It does anything that helps you poop is good. Yeah. Do you want to, Peter, do you want to ask about the feline football? I do want to ask about the feline football league. So you are directly, you are literally contributing to the pushification of America. Yes. Yes. That's fine by managing a bunch of cats running around. Do they wear pads?

They don't wear pads now. So you're probably that's giving them brain damage. But you know, but, but really, there is a serious side to it. I don't want to do this. Yeah, but before we get into this, tell me what the feline football league is. Let's make our Why are you the commissioner and who is the last cat that you find? Yeah. And by the way, you know, that's Beth, Beth Stern of Strausky or Strausky Stern, I should say, who does this. So Howard Stern's wife is the one that's pushing all of this and the North Shore Animal League America. Yes, she made you be commissioner. She said, hey, would you like to do this? And I'm like, I'm more of a dog guy, but the little kiddies, I don't mind doing it because

the paycheck is pretty nice. Okay. All right. And you know, and they played on Super Bowl Sunday. And by the way, guys, there's more people that watch that show than listen to this podcast. That's, well, I don't know if that's true, but also I do know that you probably get cucked every Super Bowl Sunday by the puppy bull. Yeah. Because that's what people really want. There's more women who live alone in their fifties that watch that show than listen to this podcast. That's probably the man. It's okay. We got to work on that demo. Boomer, how about our first game that me and Big Cat call can be the feline? Yeah. Can we sponsor a cat? Can we spray paint a cat? You may be able to do that.

Yeah. Yeah. You should be able to do it. We'll spray him orange and black and call him like the tiger. Yeah. Let's do it. But I am like Mr. Hallmark Channel. Yeah. I didn't realize that, did you? You are. I did a Lawrence Welk of this generation. Yeah. Everyone, everyone feels safe when Boomer shows up. We didn't get that. You're too old. Yeah. No idea. Who's Lawrence Welk? You have no idea. Is he a serial killer? It's a guy? No. Yeah, it's a guy. Oh, it's a guy who also likes pussy. Probably a lot of it back in the day. I would say Google it and you'll find out exactly. Google Lawrence Welk. I'll get it right. You guys have no idea who Lawrence Welk is or the fact they had a variety show on

TV every Sunday night. What year are we talking about? I watched football on Sunday night. Probably the 60s and 70s. Yeah. I mean, we were born in 1985. Okay. Well, you know, is this the problem with you younger? You guys don't look back to history at all. Yeah. We don't look back to the guy who was doing the Hallmark Channel in 1960. You got me there, Boomer. There was the Hallmark Channel, but it was the Hallmark Sunday evenings on whatever. So are you saying you're like, you're the most trustworthy guy on TV? I don't know about that. You don't want TV and everyone's like, man, there's Boomer. We can trust him. Yeah, I don't know about that. After doing this interview, probably not. No, I don't think so. I think I probably just chucked my career to bits.

Yeah, you're in trouble now. It's okay. All right. I think I'm done with all my questions. Oh, no, actually, I do want to do a serious question real quick. I know you have your son's foundation that does awesome work. Yeah, well, it's my foundation. Your foundation. Yeah. Well, it's your son's. Wow. Well, my foundation. But it's your son's. It was not just for my son. It's for everybody with CF. Okay. So, so, but it's yours? Yeah, it's called the Boomer of Science. But it's for everyone. It's for all CF patients around the world, actually. Okay. And my son actually is a big part of it. He's 27 years old now. And we are living a medical miracle as we sit here. So to be really serious, so he was, he was diagnosed when I became the jet

quarterback. And my life changed immensely at that moment. In 1993, Gunnar and I were on the cover of Sports Illustrated. It was called the Quarterbacks Crusade. I remember that. Yep. And now here we are in 2018. And Gunnar is amazing. And there's been so many drug developments over the last 10 years, especially in the last five years specifically, that, you know, who knows, I think he can outlive me. And that's crazy. That was really my goal. Yeah. And it is really remarkable what has happened in the world of cystic fibrosis. It's a truly an untold story that more rare diseases should go through the process like we have gone over the last 25 years. And I think, you know, CF will be eradicated from this earth in about five to 10 years.

Wow. That's incredible. So where can people, what's the, is there a website? It's asiason.org is our website. And if you know anybody with CF that wants to be interviewed, buy Gunnar because he does his own podcast, does his own blog. And what's the podcast? It's GunnarSiason.com. So he gets on there with patients and really breaks what it down, like what it's like living with CF and what you can do and what you should do, how you should live your life, how you should try to get the most out of life. Don't take your treatments for granted. I mean, and he's pretty, he's pretty funny. He's pretty honest about his own situation. His blogs are funny. You know, he follows you guys.

He's a barstool guy. He, he and Sidney both went to Boston College. So they know KFC pretty well and the whole story behind all of this. But he has learned through what like what you guys have done and what barstool has done and how to really take his message in his world to a whole another level. And that I couldn't be any more proud of. And he goes around the country giving speeches in front of 1500 people. That's awesome. I'm like, I'm watching my 27 year old son do these things. And I'm like, wow, this kid is pretty amazing. Well, I can't even talk in front of big cat. Well, I mean, I was going to say, this has been a fun interview and you sufficiently made us feel like assholes. I don't want you to feel like an asshole. No, but this stuff is

incredible. You guys are great assholes. No, you're not. You're good guys. You got it. You got a spot in the world and you found your spot and you're making the most awesome. Here's an idea for you. You should have on the size and dot com is size and dot com size and dot org. I saw a size and dot org. It's a dot org. Nice. You wanted to put this up there. Yeah, well, no, we'll do it. We'll put it. We'll put a link in it, but you should have a hundred dollar donate. So you don't feel like an asshole button. Yeah. And then people will just go there with a guilty conscience. Be like, yep. You're in the nonprofit world. You don't want to call anybody asshole. Make sure people support you. I mean, the church used to do that for years, right?

We're called like tithings or whatever. If you pay a hundred bucks, then you get to be an asshole. Yeah, it's your asshole tax. That's perfect. All right, boomer. Thank you so much. Pleasure, guys. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thanks for having us. And seriously, though, like to figure out something with your name because everyone thinks you're Chris Berman. It was really disappointing seeing everyone's face be like, Hey, we're interviewing boomer. And they're like, what? You got Chris Berman. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. We'll see if the guy played for the Bengals. And you know, and I've never interviewed with a guy that had a man bun and today had no man. Yeah, he took his hair down, had a man put it. He took it. I'll let you down.

He doesn't do that for everyone. Right. So, you know, so from this, but now I got to go do a radio interview in Kansas City. Cool. I'm actually going to go get high. Okay. Yeah, I'm going to go sit in a steam room and sweat. So I feel like I got to work out and then I'm going to go. I'm going to I'm going to get high and play some Madden. So how about that, boomer? Sounds good. Good luck, boys. That interview with boomer was brought to you guys by Blue Apron. Blue Apron delivers farm fresh ingredients and step by step recipes to your door. Their mission is to make incredible home cooking accessible to everyone. They achieve this by supporting a more sustainable food system,

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They scored a touchdown. They went for two and guys like us, we're like gut check. This is really stupid. The Giants are dumb. Turns out the nerds had the correct theory here that you go for two when you're down eight with a, you know, like in the fourth quarter because essentially you have to score another touchdown no matter what. So if you miss the first two, you can get the second two and you just have to go 50% on two point conversions. And if you hit the first two, you can win the game with an extra point. That was a lot of numbers. All this could zero numbers. All this could be solved. There's a lot of twos and 50%. All this could be solved with just posting that flow chart because the flow chart is what sold us. I'm dumb. I can't, don't talk to me about

like probabilities. Show me a flow chart and then I'll follow my path. It's like a choose your own adventure and like, oh, I won this time. Oh, I won this time. Oh, I lost this time. Oh, I won the, if I get excited more than I get upset, then it's a good idea. I also think this is a very relatable moment for everyone out there who has a very stupid brain like myself. When you learn something that is smart and that has math behind it, you can't wait for the moment that you can then say it out loud when, when the moment arises again and school all the other dumb people who you just were a dumb person a second ago, but they haven't caught up yet. So I am so excited for a team to be down in that exact spot and be like, well, they should go for two because I know

the math behind this. Okay, I'm, I'm excited to do that, but I'm more excited to correct somebody else that had my exact take. Right. So yeah, next time it happens, I'm not going to say it until I hear somebody else say it, then I'm going to well actually the shit out of it. I'm going dumb people hunting and I just was one of those guys. So I know what to, I know where, I know where to find them. But guess what? I'm smarter than I was in the past. So I can look down on people like I used to be. Right. And then the analytics nerds will come up with something new that I'll have to figure out and we'll go round and round. We go. I'm always like one step behind the smart people and one step ahead of the really dumb people. That's a great place to be. There's safety in

the herd that you're in. Yes, exactly. But the one thing that they did fail to account for is that those numbers that we're all in love with now, those are based off of like a league wide average for a long period of time. So when you have Eli Manning, well, no, sorry, not, when you have that offensive line that makes Eli Manning bad, then it's actually like the chances are lower because he often sucks. Oh, let me ask you a question then. Did they not go 50% for two point conversion? Well, I'm sold. There you go. Listen, if the stat, if your math kind of fails, you just go back to results oriented. Yes. And just be like, well, it happened this time. So it has to happen all the time. Anecdotal evidence, in my opinion, is more persuasive than numbers. Yes. The past

fully predicts the future all the time. Doug Peterson did it. It worked. Yes, it did. So now it works. Doug Peterson won a Super Bowl. Oh yeah. Shake and point. Yep. All right. PR 101. This is for your guy, Greeny. Greeny had one of the worst handshakes of all time with Stephen. It was not. He went for fist bump. Stephen A. Smith went for handshake, which by the way, and then, and then, and then Stephen A. Smith basically held Greeny's little tiny palm or fist in his, in his palm and made him look like a little school boy. And it was like he was walking across the street and it was sad. Yeah. He probably got a talking to from, from the old lady when he got home after that one. We practiced this. You made me look like a fool, Michael. You practiced

this. Yeah. It was, listen, you're very cynical over there. I think it was a beautiful ebony and ivory moment between the two of them. No, you know what it was. Two guys trying to understand each other's cultures. No. When you're reaching for the fist bump, Stephen A. reaching for the, like, the, the swaddling of the hand. I, my theory is that Greeny is a germaphobe. Yeah, that's exactly it. I was gonna say, if you're talking cultures, you're talking about the germaphobe culture versus the regular people culture, right? Because it's Greeny being like, I don't want to touch anyone's hand and it backfiring. It was, yeah. It was a Howie Mandel moment. Yeah. And so Greeny or another alternate theory about what it could have been. Greeny just had a Werther's

original in his hand and he was just trying to pass it. No. The fist bump, you can't look cool doing a fist bump unless you explode it after. Yeah. 100%. That's, that's all you got left. Do we need to even say that? No, we don't. Hey, BAM. Yeah, we should see that. Well, some of you could probably put out this clip. All right. I have a new segment that I want to debut. It's called is LeBron James hiding from us. So on Monday night, the Los Angeles Lakers, the O and three Los Angeles Lakers, might I add, lost in overtime to the San Antonio Spurs. LeBron James missed the buzzer beater. He also missed two free throws. Okay. Well, they were also without Rajan Rondo. Okay. And Brandon Ingram, who's their second best

player, but yes. Okay. Listen, I'm asking you a question. Is LeBron James hiding from us? Because here's what happened at like 1230. I went to sleep. I missed all the fourth quarter, missed the free throws, all that stuff. I woke up to the LeBron stands were already in full force, spinning it, how they spun it. And I actually think that LeBron James has moved out West because he knows, he knows MJ people were getting a little older, got to get to sleep. The LeBron stands, they're all like 14 years old. They stay up all night. They defend their hero online. And LeBron knows he will not get criticized. Like I should have been there hating LeBron when he missed those free throws, except father time has taken its toll to hold on me and I need to go to sleep.

Yeah. So it's bullshit. He's hiding from us. PFT is hiding. He's either doing that or he's trying to expand his brand over in China, where there's more eyes over there. So I don't know why he would be hiding big catches fell over. He just went down. I don't know why he would try to hide from us, but then go directly into Skip Bayless's backyard. Unless he's saying that Skip Bayless has lost a step and he's more afraid of us than he is a skip, which actually now that I'm talking it out loud, yes, I think it might be true because Skip has lost a step, especially when it comes to his missing crossbar posts. Right. And he's also focused on Aaron Rodgers. But Hank, do you agree with this theory? He's hiding from us. He knows that if he's out west,

he will not, LeBron James, his errors will not be on full display night in and night out. And I think it's bullshit because guess what? All the LeBron haters out there, we need to sleep and we're not there on the front lines. I woke up this morning and there was so much MJ slander that I didn't even know where it came from. And I was like, oh, it's because LeBron missed two free throws and the game winner. It's a good point. Michael Jordan would never do anything to take himself out of the public eye for a year or two to avoid criticism from anybody. That's not a true champion would not do that. In fact, Michael asked him to come back to save the NBA. Well, then Michael say this about him. He moved east. So he wanted more eyeballs at him

at the time. Exactly. I'm also a huge fan of the theory. I think I saw Herbert Silo say this, that stars don't want to play with LeBron. Yes. All the young NBA players. Maybe stop listening to a competitor's podcast. Yeah, it was on TV. He actually texted me it. Well, everyone's a competitor. Yeah, stop listening to the other people's opinions. Okay. All right. Okay. Well, unless it's actually on get up. Yeah. Oh, okay. So it was a great he actually said it. It was great. Yeah. All right. Next up we have true crime. Swag Kelly. So Swag Kelly, Chad Kelly, backup quarterback of the Denver Broncos was arrested early Monday Tuesday morning, late Monday night in Inglewood, Colorado. He was dressed as cowboy. He went

into the wrong house. He got beat up with a vacuum cleaner. Well, yeah. Well, a part of a vacuum part of a vacuum cleaner than the cops were called and he was arrested. Chad Kelly. I mean, where's the swag meter after this? Who's the victim? Who was the victim in this situation? Swag move. It is a swag move to get beat up with a vacuum cleaner and a cowboy costume on a Monday night. No, you know, he woke up the next morning was like, yo, that was legendary. The student where did I park my car? I had a great story that I got out of it. And also I listen, I did a breakdown of where he got arrested and where the house was because prior to him going over to this house, he was attending a Broncos party is a Halloween party. Okay. Actually read on on TMZ. It was a

cocaine themed party, which I mean, we used to have cocaine themed parties back in the day. Like what do you mean? It was a party party, but a party party with the Broncos. It wasn't really cocaine. They said that on TMZ, but in reality, it was just Emmanuel Sanders and Vaughn Miller showed up one dressed as Ike Turner and the other dressed as Tyrone Bigums from Chappelle show. So they called it. Oh, that's a nice headline. So he was at Vaughn Miller's party and then I did the I did a little, I did a little sleuth work here. I saw where the house was. It was kind of like that Drake song that we're going back at where he snuck out of the house, made a right and then fuck Kim Kardashian. Yep. So I looked at this and I saw

that Vaughn Miller actually was a bad influence, had a party too close to someone's house who kept an unlocked door and then swag just like walked around the corner and it said reports where that he walked in sat down on the couch and started mumbling incoherently. Yep. And then they call the dad and the dad came in and beat him with an aluminum tube from the vacuum cleaner, which by the way, now that I'm saying it out loud in aluminum tube, what was this guy doing in there? You know, you can build nuclear weapons with aluminum tubes. We've invaded a country for far less far less than a guy in his house swinging an aluminum tube around Willie Nellon. Yes, that's true. Swag Kelly. I don't know where he goes from here, but the swag I'm just shocked

when the guy, the guy who when he was a starting quarterback at Ole Miss tried to beat up a high school kid, somehow got arrested. I mean, I think he was on the Broncos when he did that. If you think that is the craziest swag Kelly story, what about the time that he like threatened an entire school with an AK-47? Or what about the time that Willie football said he was the best quarterback in that draft class? Swag. Did you see his mugshot? Oh yeah, that was the one eye. That was the drunkest eye I've ever seen. It looked like his eyes were so off level. It looked like somebody tried to take a panorama picture on an iPhone of his face. Yeah, broke his face, right. Yeah, his one eye was so far lower than the other one. That's the drunk eye.

I blame swag. You know what? I blame swag for showing up and getting drunk at a party when everybody else was doing much more dangerous drugs. So that his only crime is bringing a flask to an eight ball party. Yeah, it actually sounds like he didn't do any cocaine because he's sitting on a couch mumbling. He would have been mumbling very coherently on the couch. Yeah, he would have been telling everyone about all kinds of cover twos and how he can beat every defense in the NFL. Yeah, he'd be talking about all the different modifications he put on the racing seats in his Honda Civic Si. Yeah, with the spoiler. No big deal. Got some flames on the side. It's so awesome. I took the carburetor and put a new air intake on it so when you hit the gas it goes

for a second before it speeds up. On the Zoonoss, yeah, because it's illegal in the state. But I know a guy that lives up in Nevada and he's going to ship it to me across the lines because he's got the system in the back of his truck, which is awesome. It's got like a fold out. So it's like you have a trunk in your truck. I know it's kind of funny, but it's cool. Lime green. Yeah, for sure. Lime green. The swag mobile. The neon light underneath on the undercarriage in the car. Yes. Yes. Oh, yeah. He's got that for sure. He's got the spoiler. The muffler is so fucking loud. I wouldn't be shocked if swag actually has like three balloons on strings at all times that he puts through the sunroof that he drives around in. So he feels like he's playing Mario

Kart. All right, let's finish up. We got guys on chicks. Hank, do it. Sup, PMT. Why do guys get so tired after they jizz? That's fake. Yeah, that's just leave me alone because I don't have any jizz in me, so I don't feel like a man anymore. Well, the thing is, I feel like Derek Carr. The entire, that was a little blow. Yeah. Why do we cry? Why do we cry, guys? Well, the entire reason that, why do they get tired? Yeah, you get tired because the only reason that guys need to ever do anything like eat or talk to anybody is so that they can have sex at some point. Well, and also you literally are jizzing out your testosterone, which is basically you're jizzing out steroids. And so when you get your steroids back, that's when you get your energy

back. Yeah, that works. No, I was going to say something, but I held my tongue. Okay, say it. So credit to me. All right, say it. No, I'm not going to say it. All right. It was gonna be funny. Just pretend it was good. Okay. Hey, boys, why is my labia tan, but the rest of my body pale? I do not know what a labia is. That's, I think it's a labia. It's the vagina. Oh, it's the lips. Just say the lips. Just say the pussy lips. Just say the pussy lips. Well, then there's the like, talk to us like we're regular human beings. Why are my pussy lips? But the rest of my body pale. There's the majority. And then there's the menorah. It's like the ursa No, no, no. The menorah is the Jewish thing. The candle thing that you like. Yeah. And then you get

eight crazy nights. Yeah. Sounds pretty hot. I don't know the answer to this question because I didn't know what a labia was up until right now. Yeah, I think it's, if it was the same color as the rest of your body, then us guys are so stupid, we wouldn't know where to find it. So it's like, it's like a target. Yeah, it's a big red. It's like, Hey, it's like a hit it here. Yeah, sign that someone holds up in the L field. Yeah, hit it here and get really sleepy afterwards. Yeah. Sup boys. My boyfriend is about to move four hours away from me. What's the move? It sounds like he's going four hours away from me. Yeah, the movies. So that's not a good sign. If he were to write in and ask this question, would he refer to you as his girlfriend?

Yeah. And also if he wrote in, we should be like, what's the move? Watch more football. Yeah. Sounds like he's probably just going to a state with like a better situation all around for him, including maybe no stating up tax. It's not you. I'd say just move to his apartment, show up and be like, Hey, I'm moving in with you and then see what happens then. Yeah. But you're like, no, here's what you just start saying. We're moving around him a lot and kind of feel that by dog, by dog. You can't, you can't move when you have a dog, fake a pregnancy. Yeah. Actually, that's probably the best move. The dog. No, oh, no, no, no, we can't say fake pregnancy every time. Get a dog and then say that your dog's pregnant. There you go. Puppies. And you need

him to help nine puppies. Come on puppies. Stuff fellas. My boyfriend likes to get really drunk before he's fool around because he claims getting borderline drunk before sex gives him Superman dick, which he claims is a sweet spot between whiskey dick and normal dick. In reality, his dick game is weak every time. Oh, how do I politely tell him that Superman dick is more like weak ass bullshit dick? And I never leave satisfied. I don't have the heart to burst his hat. I don't have the heart to burst his half flaccid bubble. Thanks guys. Yeah. This guy probably just sucks in bed. So he had a girl at some point tell him that his dick game was better when it was like no, he sold himself. Well, I think a girl probably told him that just so that he she liked having

sex with him when he was drunk because it would just he couldn't come and it would be over really fast. I don't know. I think he started half you have to overdo it on the other side and give him something to counteract the beer like, I don't know, give him cocaine. Oh, swag Kelly, give him meth. Here, that's what you do. Mixing the meth. I was gonna say just tell him that his dick game is weak when he has Superman dick because you might not remember. And you can always be like, Oh, we were just really drunk. I don't remember what I said, dirty talk. Yeah, right. And then and then if he maybe he'll take it internalize it and be like, Okay, maybe we're going to retire Superman dick, or he'll get really offended and be like, I can't believe you said that. But what

would I say? I don't remember what I said. We both were Superman. Who's better than Superman, though? What superhero would you say? Oh, Superman versus Batman. Let's do it. No, I was just kidding. Not super. Not super. Is a hot dog a sandwich? Because I was just gonna say you could be like, Oh, you've got Wolverine dick when you're sober, though, because it regenerates faster. Different. Dude, don't don't do Marvel and DC crossover. The cinematic universe. It's the most ambitious. Tell them the most ambitious crossover move of all time would be if he uses dick and also went down on you. All right, last one. Hey, big cat and PFT. What should me and my boyfriend be for Halloween? Us? Yeah, be me. Should we give a prize this year? Yeah, but we had a

shitload of people who are us the last few years. Let's let's let's throw it out there. How about this? How about if we'll give a prize to the person who does the best part in my take Halloween get up outfit and it will be me and big cat will take a picture where we dress like you. No, this sounds way too ambitious. No, thanks, future PFT. Future big cat is out on that. How about this? Best costume of us gets a million dollars cash subject to us winning the mega millions. Future stake. Yeah, if we someday win the mega millions, we will give you a million dollars cash. That is good. That's good money. That's good money right there. So how about that? That's pretty good. And you know what? I'm just gonna say this. Just because you have long hair and you're

the girl that doesn't mean you always have to be PFT. I mean, come on. Why? Right? Why? I mean, just saying like, you love it. Yeah, I do. I actually get really turned on when a girl looks exactly like me. That's perfect. Hey, that's evolution at action right there. All right. That's our show. We'll see everyone Friday. We have Randy Couture and maybe a special football guy of the week. We will see also vote for us. High heart radio podcast awards. We're not gonna like we're gonna be too cool for it. So we're gonna be like, I don't really care, but please, our egos are very fragile. I just don't want to win it. I don't want to lose. I mean, PFT will literally fuck himself. So you know how he's dealing with this. I just don't want to lose a

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