Pardon My Take - Bowling Legend Pete Weber, Super Bowl Story Lines, Hot Seat/Cool Throne + A Recap Of The Bowling Punishment

Episode Date: February 1, 2023

Sean Payton is back and now the Head Coach of the Denver Broncos (00:00:00-00:12:06). We talk Super Bowl storylines we're most excited for and Hank does a hater's guide to the Super Bow (00:12:06-00:3...5:33). Hot Seat/Cool Throne includes Mr Beast, a shower debate and more (00:35:33-00:58:05). We welcome on Bowling Legend Pete Weber to talk about his career, his famous moment "who do you think you are? I am", the art of bowling and more (00:58:05-01:41:54). We then finish with a recap of the Bowling Punishment/Stream (01:41:54-02:02:31).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, bowling. We've got bowling, Super Bowling, Super Bowl Storylines, and Bowling the Bolorama at Bolero Happened. We're gonna recap it.
Starting point is 00:00:25 We have Pete Weber. Who do you think you are or I am? That guy, maybe the best bowler of all time on the show, great interview with him. We're gonna talk about the entire day in a bowling alley. Like I said, Super Bowl Storylines, Sean Payton to the Broncos, Hatsi Cool Throne. Very fun interview.
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Starting point is 00:02:26 and then I can't blame all on the sun. Oh no, we're gonna rock down to electric avenue and then we'll take it higher. Oh, we're gonna rock down to electric avenue and then we'll take it higher. Yeah. Welcome to part of my take. Today is Wednesday, February 1st
Starting point is 00:02:53 and Sean Payton is head coach of the Denver Broncos. Let's go, Sean. Good job, Sean. Good job, Sean, you got a job. And a little birdie told me Vic Fangio might be joining him. Ooh! So Fangio was all but confirmed to go to the Dolphins on what, Sunday?
Starting point is 00:03:10 Yeah. Psych record scratch. He might go to Denver. He used to be the head coach in Denver. That's true. But it's a new ownership group. So he might be willing to go back and then he might also be talking to San Francisco.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Yeah. Because they lost their defense coordinator, D'Amico Ryan's, who's now head coach of the Houston Texans. Yes, so we had a little source off breaking news on Tuesday. It was announced that Sean Payton was going to the Broncos and then almost instantly after D'Amico Ryan's was going to the Texans. And Schefter said it was a coincidence.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Rappaport said that the Broncos were trying very hard to get D'Amico Ryan's when they couldn't. They went to plan B, Sean Payton, which seems a little weird, but I also don't think there was a coincidence there. The timing of both announcements felt more than coincidental. So I think, I think I'm going to side with Rappaport on that there was more to it than just a complete coincidence that they were announced within minutes of each other.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Well, Rappaport is the Walmart Schefter. So it would make sense that he would have a closer time with the Broncos ownership group. But I do think that there's a good possibility that D'Amico Ryan's wanted to go to the Houston Texans. Yes, where he played. Obviously he played there. This is crazy.
Starting point is 00:04:20 Did you know that he sued the Houston Texans? No. He sued the Houston Texans like seven, eight years ago because this is when he was on the Eagles. He said that their playing field caused a knee injury for him. We are team grass. We are team grass, but they do have grass, I think. Don't they?
Starting point is 00:04:36 No, they're indoors. The Texans? Yeah. NRG Stadium? No, it's got an open roof on it. What? Yeah. Really?
Starting point is 00:04:44 Yeah. I think it's a retractable roof. Yeah. Is it grass? That was the one Gaga came down from. That's right. But I don't think it's grass, is it? I'm pretty sure it is.
Starting point is 00:04:53 I think it is grass. Yeah. They roll in the grass. Really? No, they don't roll it in there. No, that's Arizona. It's grass, but it's shit grass. Because that's where, I think that's where Jules-
Starting point is 00:05:02 It's so bad at grass. That was 20 or three. That's where Jules tore his ACL. Non-contact. Either him or Wes Welker, one of the two. One of those guys had a non-contact. Oh, no, it's not anymore. It used to be.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Texans ditching grass for artificial turf. This was in 2015. Okay. Artificial surface. Okay, well, I learned something. You learned something. Yeah, so we both learned something here. So D'Amico Ryan's.
Starting point is 00:05:28 So it might have been grass when he was playing. It might have been. D'Amico Ryan sued the Texans. He ended up settling with the group that like installs the playing surface. Not involving the team in the final outcome. Probably pretty glad that he didn't go through that lawsuit against the team themselves
Starting point is 00:05:44 because now he's their head coach. Yeah, seriously. Yeah, that's so. And it feels like the Texans finally got a head coach they want to keep around for more than a year. I don't think that they hired D'Amico Ryan's to fire him. Yeah. It doesn't seem that way.
Starting point is 00:05:57 I think we both called it for the last two years. Felt like they were hiring Lovie Smith to fire him in a year just because they needed to get some of the heat off him because they were rumored to be trying to hire Josh McCown at the time. And then before that, there was the David Cully experience. Yes. God bless David Cully.
Starting point is 00:06:15 And for Sean Payton, so people have been saying, why would he do this? He left. He could have gone to any team. Well, the Walton family has the most money ever. So they probably cut him an enormous check. They also didn't have to give up as much as I thought. Like it's the 29th pick this year.
Starting point is 00:06:36 So the pick that the Broncos got in return for Bradley Chubb, which was, I think, the 49ers pick. So they got that. They have to give up that. They have to give up their second rounder next year. They get a third rounder back from the Saints. And they get Sean Payton. And if you're the Broncos, Sean Payton
Starting point is 00:06:56 is worth more than the 29th pick when it's been so bad. And you've invested in Russell Wilson. You've got to figure out a way to fix him. That's the biggest piece. Like, who better to fix a short quarterback whose arm might be losing a little bit of the steam? Oh, how about the guy who coached a short quarterback whose arm wasn't the strongest?
Starting point is 00:07:17 He's the perfect guy. Yeah, plus we get a sequel to the Kevin James movie, where he goes to Denver and starts his own grow-ups. That'll be nice. I think that he's a good fit out there. I think that he's. But it's money. It's money.
Starting point is 00:07:28 It's money. Because the other argument would be, why would you want to go into Patrick Holmes division? I get that as well. What's money? It's money. It's money. He's probably getting paid like $25 million a year.
Starting point is 00:07:37 It's money. It's a good opportunity for him to go out and get paid a lot of money. But he's also a very good coach. But it's money. And he's in maybe the worst division in sports. Let's get real. But it's money.
Starting point is 00:07:46 That division sucks. I'm just going to do a complete reversal on our takes from last year. That division until proven otherwise. Although Skip Bayless, that motherfucker, he predicted the C words to win the Super Bowl already. Oh, wow. And now he's got me thinking.
Starting point is 00:08:00 That's a little early to do Super Bowl. Now he's got a man thinking about maybe my C words take. But we can get to that later. But it's money. It's money. It's money. He's going to get paid a lot of money. He's going to get paid a shitload of money.
Starting point is 00:08:11 He coached the Broncos. He's probably going to be OK. I can't remember. And maybe there's a very easy answer that's right in front of my face. Besides Andy Reid. We're taking Andy Reid off the board here. Has there been a coach that walked away
Starting point is 00:08:26 and then came back for a big payday somewhere else? And he's been better at a second location than he was. Bill Cowher's still out there. Bill Cowher's still remaining, yeah. Bill Cowher is just in the 10 years. Walked away from the NFL? Like are coaching in general? Walked away from coaching.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Because he really didn't walk away for that long. Walked away from coaching in the NFL. And did something similar. I mean, Belichick left the Jets after his day. Pete Carroll left the NFL and then came back and was very successful. Yeah. I'm trying to think who left.
Starting point is 00:08:59 Parcells, but he wasn't that successful. I mean, Mike McCarthy will see how that goes. He did walk. He did. He did get fired. He rolled away. Yeah, rolled away and then came back. That's a good question.
Starting point is 00:09:10 I don't know. I'd have to top my head. Because maybe I'm just not thinking. And Andy Reid is obviously the exception to this rule. And Andy Reid didn't even walk away. Didn't he get a job right away? He got fired. I don't know how long he was in between jobs where it wasn't long.
Starting point is 00:09:23 I want to say it was right away. So the vibe that I'm getting is that he's going to come back. He's going to be a decent head coach because he has forgotten more about football than we'll ever know. Yes. And he's done it for long enough that I think he knows how to run a team.
Starting point is 00:09:37 So it's going to be a completely different look for the Broncos as opposed to what they dealt with this year. Like Sean Payton is maybe the complete opposite of Nathaniel Hackett. I would say that's probably true. So I think that it's a good hire for Denver. But I don't see him winning Super Bowls in Denver, at least not with Russell Wilson.
Starting point is 00:09:57 So yeah, Andy Reid was out of a job for five days. OK, so Andy Reid stepped away from football for five days. For five days. He left the Eagles on December 31, 2012, and he was hired by the Chiefs on January 4, 2013. Yeah, is there a coach out there that has left coaching football entirely for a full season or longer that came back that stronger?
Starting point is 00:10:22 We're definitely forgetting someone. Very obvious. And people are going to, this is one of those moments where people, I mean, no, John Gruden, that didn't go well. We're just having the conversation. I'm merely asking questions. Yeah, this is going to be one of those moments where everyone's like, how did you guys forget about this guy?
Starting point is 00:10:39 Or are you going to forget that like Bill Walsh coached, I don't know, like the Vikings for a month back in 1960? Do you know who the answer might be? Let's see how long. I can't remember how long he was away. I'm going to pull it up. The answer could be, nope, Mike Holmgren also went just straight from the Packers to the Seahawks.
Starting point is 00:10:59 I couldn't remember if there was a year in between. That's a good choice though. Because that would be, yeah, that would be the guy. So, yeah, I think the Broncos had to do this move. And it's money. I would love to know how much is getting paid. Yeah, maybe we can ask them in Indy. They should definitely publicize how much coaches make.
Starting point is 00:11:15 We need to be like, Sean Payton, yes or no question, just be like, I would like to just know how many zeros. No, because it's definitely more than 10 million. Or actually. You think it's more? I think it's probably right around 10 million. Oh, it's definitely more than 10 million. How much is Belichick made?
Starting point is 00:11:28 We never, we don't know. That's the best part about NFL coaches. We don't know how much they make. But Belichick probably makes like 15, 20 million a year. We knew how much Gruden made. Yeah. Because his contract was public for whatever reason. That was 10 million.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Yeah. So he's definitely getting paid more than Gruden, I think. Because it's a rich owner. Yeah. Who's desperate to have a competent organization again. And Sean Payton, who could go out and do the bidding anywhere he wanted. That's true.
Starting point is 00:11:54 So it's gotta be a pretty, pretty big dollar. I'm seeing, and now this is on Spotrack. Okay. And he was with the Saints. His salary was five years, 42.5 million. So eight and a half million per year. Yeah. So he's definitely getting probably at least 15, I would say.
Starting point is 00:12:10 10, 10 plus. I would, yeah. I would say at least 15. Okay. Let's talk some Super Bowl storylines. We said we'd do it on Wednesday, and it's Wednesday. It actually is Tuesday right now. Happy birthday, PFT.
Starting point is 00:12:22 It's still your birthday. Thanks, Piquette. Happy birthday on Monday. Birthday week, yeah. How do we want to start Super Bowl storylines? Should we just go from the obvious? And then whittle it down. I also asked Hank to make a haters list
Starting point is 00:12:35 to watching the Super Bowl. Yep. Because he hates this. Speaking of obvious. Travis Kelsey. No, this is wild. Travis Kelsey is on TV right now. He's at the Kansas, Kansas State game.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Storyline number one, did you guys know that the Kelsey brothers are brothers? So I didn't until you just said it that way. Yeah, it's kind of wild when you put it that way. Yeah, okay, so I have a take, and I know that this one's gonna get beaten to death, the Kelsey brothers. It's gonna be talked about nonstop.
Starting point is 00:13:04 It's probably outside of Andy Reed and the Eagles. It's probably the number one Super Bowl storyline. I actually think it is very crazy. Like they are the first two brothers to face off in a Super Bowl, and they're both really fucking good. Yeah. It's one of those ones where people are gonna make jokes about how everyone's overstating it.
Starting point is 00:13:24 I actually think it's wild. It's very cool. And you have to. I think it's wild. Let me say, if you're the parents, none of this, I'm not picking sides bullshit. Mom needs to pick one kid. Dad needs to pick the other.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Yeah, well they both have one too. That's the thing. Yeah, they both have one. It's for bragging rights. And they're both like really, really good at their position, like amongst the all time greats at their position. They're both number one at their position, right now in the NFL probably.
Starting point is 00:13:49 And they're both- For sure, they're definitely both one of them. What would you say in terms of most important players on their team? What's Jason? He's probably like the third most important player on the team. Travis is probably like third.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Travis probably too. No, he's probably Chris Jones too. And then Travis. So they're both like, that's the crazy part. It's not that they're just playing against each other. They're both fucking awesome. And yeah, the mom, they're both probably going to the Hall of Fame.
Starting point is 00:14:14 And yeah, the mom, I think the mom's gonna probably go with- I think she's- Jason. She's a Jason guy. Dad go with Travis. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so Travis is a dad. You know that dad picked the name Travis.
Starting point is 00:14:28 Mom picked Jason. Yes, yes. You got the split jersey ready too. Yeah, she does. And it actually, the way she split the jersey, the inside is Travis. I feel like that might go against what we just said. There's more red than green there.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Yeah, there's way more red. She has the shoulders on the screen. And it's like, if you see her, you're gonna see a lot more red. So maybe we had it reversed. Maybe it's actually- I don't know what the back is. The back is probably Jason.
Starting point is 00:14:51 The back? Yeah, the back looks purple. Okay, so that's first storyline. Billy, what's this look? What do you got, Billy? You have something to say. Billy's got something hilarious. Billy, tell me, tell me what you're-
Starting point is 00:15:01 Wait, well also for the first time, the two quarterbacks are also brothers. Oh, okay. Oh, that's good, okay. Yeah. All right, I did have that on there, but man, that was a way to introduce it. I was just gonna point out
Starting point is 00:15:14 that this is the first Super Bowl where both backup quarterbacks are white while the players that they back up are African-Americans. Yes, yes. But it is the first Super Bowl, which is a very cool thing. Two black quarterbacks starting in the Super Bowl. Speaking of Jalen Hertz,
Starting point is 00:15:31 I also think there'll be a little storyline. Last time he played in a championship game, he got benched in half. Yeah. Will Gardner-Minshew come in? I actually had that exact storyline on my list. Yes. Can I start?
Starting point is 00:15:42 We'll get to you. Okay. We'll get to you. How about this? People are talking about the Kelsey brothers and the quarterback brothers, but no one's talking about Fletcher Cox and Gainwell being cousins.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Oh, that's cool. Did you know that? That's very cool. Whoa. Another thing no one's talking about is no matter who wins the Super Bowl, it will be the 22nd Lombardi Trophy for Wisconsin Badger. Not a lot of people are talking about that.
Starting point is 00:16:08 So Leo Chinal on the Chiefs and who's on the, who is it on the fucking, I know it, I know it, I know it. TJ Edwards on the Eagles. Okay. So linebacker, you. Someone's getting it. So yeah, not a lot. I haven't heard a lot of people talking about it.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Think it should be talked about more. We've also got two Australians in this game. Who? Jordan Milata. There's definitely going to be some stories about how Jordan Milata did not play American football until he was super old. And then somebody in Australia was like,
Starting point is 00:16:36 hey, Mike, you're five stone and whatever six foot eight is. And hey, maybe you want to go give this a shot. And now he's like one of the best players in the NFL. Yeah. Chiefs of Hollick. I saw there was a piece on him in the New York Times, maybe trying to cuck you, Billy. Low key.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Yeah, low key. I provided a lot of the New York Times content last week. You did. You did. You did the reporting. They just did a fucking, you know, a mix tape of your reporting. Billy's the gray bro.
Starting point is 00:17:04 I like it. Yeah. There's also, you know, everyone's talking about Andy Reed, former coach of the Eagles. Well, no one's talking about Nick Siriani, former coach for the Kansas City Chiefs. Yeah. He's been a receiver's coach for many years
Starting point is 00:17:18 and offensive quality control guy. He was there in Kansas City for, I think like four years before the new regime came in. Andy Reed didn't hire him to stick around. Wow. Then he leaves. Yeah, revenge game. And Andy, the Andy Reed storyline is also one of those ones
Starting point is 00:17:33 that will get overblown, but is very cool. He's the winningest coach in Eagles history by almost double. Do you know who's second? Buddy Ryan. Who's second? No. Max, it's actually not one of those, like I'm not trying to put you on the spot
Starting point is 00:17:46 because it's one that no one should really know. I have no idea. It is Greasy Neal. Greasy Neal. And I went down a rabbit hole of Greasy Neal facts. I just wanted to share a little Greasy Neal stuff. So Andy Reed has 224 games coached for the Eagles. Greasy Neal has 111.
Starting point is 00:18:07 Andy Reed, like I said, most wins for the Eagles all time. Greasy Neal played professional football, also played in Major League Baseball. He did it the same time. So he was Deon or Bo before those guys. He won the World Series in 1919 with the Reds, hitting 357 in the World Series. He also coached the Eagles to two titles.
Starting point is 00:18:30 He coached the Stiegels during World War II. He coached college football and coached a team to a shared national title, including the only zero, zero tie in Rose Bowl history. He also coached college basketball for two years and college baseball for six years. This dude did it all. Is he the Greasy Neal?
Starting point is 00:18:52 He's the greatest coach, the most versatile coach. I mean, that's crazy. Of all time, that is nuts. Yeah, the fact that he was playing, he was playing with Jim Thorpe in what was before the National Football League, while also winning a World Series with the Reds. So Greasy Neal.
Starting point is 00:19:06 Greasy Neal. What a guy. And his name is not because he was Greasy on the football field. It was red that he got the nickname in a verbal joust when he was a kid. And somebody just called him Greasy? Yeah, I think they were just having like a name off. That's tough that that one's stuck.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Greasy Neal. Okay, I like it. Shout out Greasy Neal. Yeah, I just wanted to share Greasy Neal. That's some great. And Andy Reid is going to, we're also gonna get a lot of like fun Andy Reid stories. I saw one that was retweeted from 2018
Starting point is 00:19:35 about Andy Reid who grew up in LA. And his favorite place is Tommy's Burgers in LA. And he gets him flown to Kansas City and he's quoted as saying, they're good for your joints. The grease keeps you lubed up, man. Yeah. I mean, spot the lie.
Starting point is 00:19:51 We're just gonna get fun Andy. Like we're gonna get the Andy Reid looking like like 25 years old playing against 12 year old pictures. We're gonna get all that stuff. Andy Reid. Andy Reid food stories. And there's not enough Andy Reid stories. He's the best.
Starting point is 00:20:02 There's not every Andy Reid story that you hear. You'd never hear a story about Coach Reid. And you're like, ah, man, that dickhead. Well. You're always like about Coach Reid. Coach Reid. About Andy Reid. Yeah, I was gonna say.
Starting point is 00:20:13 About Andy Reid. Yeah. But you never hear a bad story about Andy Reid. Yeah. Yeah. Andy Reid, the coach. Andy Reid, the coach, yes. He's a Mormon.
Starting point is 00:20:21 He's a Mormon. So. He doesn't drink. So this just eats. In true Mormon tradition, he will have an opportunity to get two rings. Yeah. Yes.
Starting point is 00:20:29 And Texas quarterbacks are back. Yes. So both quarterbacks from Texas, feels like we've been, I don't know, we haven't had the whole Texas quarterback discussion in a while. When we do have it, it's always like they happen to go to the same high school.
Starting point is 00:20:42 Yeah. It just maybe like five, six years apart. This one, they're from completely different parts of the state. Neither one was recruited by Mac Brown to play safety at Texas. Two great quarterbacks from Texas. Texas back.
Starting point is 00:20:53 This is the most Johnson's in Super Bowl history. There are four Johnson's playing in this game. So a lot of Johnson's. Wow, that's a lot of Johnson's everywhere. I'm surprised that it hasn't happened before. Yeah. I kind of fudged this one a little bit. I kind of assumed that this was the most Johnson's.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Let's just say it is. I think it's most Johnson's. Yeah. Yeah. There's three of them on, I think three on the Eagles. Yeah. So this also is Andy Reed is trying to become
Starting point is 00:21:19 the 14th coach to win multiple Super Bowls all time. So there's 13 coaches that won multiple Super Bowls. I'm gonna say off the top of my head, I'm actually looking at it right now. All in the Hall of Fame. I think he'd be the first coach to win with two different teams. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:36 Or no, he won with the Chiefs. I'm an idiot. I was thinking one with the Eagles. Yeah. So he'll be the 14th. Not all in the Hall of Fame. I don't know if, did Tom Flores get in the Hall of Fame? George Seifert's definitely not.
Starting point is 00:21:47 I don't know. George Seifert has two. He also would then be on the precipice of joining the Elite Elite Club. There's only four coaches that have won more than two Super Bowls. So it's Belichick, Chuck Noll, Joe Gibbs, and Bill Walsh. And I think he's got another one in him.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Right. So. Here's the other one with Mahomes. He would be the 13th starting quarterback to win two rings or more. And he would also be close to the elusive club of four starting quarterbacks who've won three or more. That's Tom Brady, Terry Bratch, Joe Montan, and Troy Aikman.
Starting point is 00:22:19 He also, if he loses this one, would join the very elusive club. There's only one other quarterback all time who's one and two starting in the Super Bowl. Anyone got it? Anyone got it? One and two. It's not Aaron Rodgers.
Starting point is 00:22:34 No, he's only been to one. He's won the same amount of NSC championship games as Rex Grossman. It's just a fact. That's not a hateful thing. That's just a fact. One quarterback with two Super Bowls. No, no.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Yeah, one and two. Exactly one and two. There's obviously, Jim Kelly lost four. There's quarterbacks have lost more than that. Yeah. But one exactly one and two. Give me a hint. It's happened in the last 25 years.
Starting point is 00:22:58 One and two in the Super Bowl. That would be Kurt Warner. I was actually just about to say Kurt Warner. Kurt Warner won, obviously, one with the Rams, lost with the Rams, and lost with Cardinals. Yeah. So my homes would be with Kurt Warner. It's the only other quarterback who's exactly one and two
Starting point is 00:23:14 in the Super Bowl. Is he the only quarterback, Kurt Warner? Is he the only quarterback to lose two Super Bowls with two separate teams? Good question. No, he's not. No, wait. Let's look it up.
Starting point is 00:23:23 Peyton Manning lost one with the Broncos, but he never lost one with the Colts, right? He lost one with the Colts to the Saints. To the Saints. That's right. There we go. Yeah. So yeah, it would be a very, very exclusive club
Starting point is 00:23:35 that Pat from Homes would be joining one and two. So you're talking about Wisconsin, the storyline of a lot of Wisconsin players in the Super Bowl. I mean, it's not a big deal. Maybe we should just like, no matter what, we get our 23rd of a mark. We should show some respect to the emergence
Starting point is 00:23:49 of the University of New Jersey Rutgers. They've got two running backs on the Chiefs from Rutgers. So they've got Pacheco. And then their fullback is also Hal Rutgers. And he like never plays. But that doesn't matter. This is that that room, the running back room is dominated by the Scarlet Knights.
Starting point is 00:24:09 Yes. Yes. So a lot of good Super Bowl storylines. Oh, here's another one. This is also the first time that any team has had their two starting receivers both have hyphens in their name. Valda Scantling and Juju Smith Schuster.
Starting point is 00:24:23 Oh, wow. Yeah. That is that's pretty cool. That's too bad Clyde Edwards-Elair is injured. Yeah. Yeah, that is true. People forget Clyde Edwards-Elair killed a guy. And JJ Othago White side isn't still on the Eagles.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Yeah. Wow. That would have been you talk about a 40 yard dash. Yeah. That'd be crazy. That'd be super wild. OK. Hank, are you ready for the haters guide to the Super Bowl?
Starting point is 00:24:48 Sure. Lay it on us. So we told Hank because he hates this Super Bowl to go ahead and give us for people who hate this Super Bowl. What they could be looking forward to in a bad way. Jaylen Hertz won the conference championship, spent the next night going upstate to New York to the Syracuse, Virginia game when he has no ties to Syracuse
Starting point is 00:25:11 or Virginia. Just a weird move. Shout out to Adam Weitzman. They'll be talking about it. Oh, is he who brought him? Yeah. Well, that's why. That's the connection.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Money. You don't know that. He brings up big time celebrity. He plays games with them. It's actually like, honestly, I want to hate the move. But if I had endless money, I would do the same thing. It's right on the score table right next to Bayhunt. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Like, wouldn't you do the same thing if you were just like, hey, this is all right. All right. Well, move on. Like, I could just pay. I could pay. I don't bring an elm in. Yannis went.
Starting point is 00:25:41 If you could just pay. You got to have some deep pockets to be able to afford. Tom Brady did come watch a game with you in upstate New York. But how sick would that be if you had that money where you're like, all right, I got a private plane. Show up. We'll hang out. We'll watch my favorite team.
Starting point is 00:25:56 I'll be there for the pictures. And that's it. I got to admit. Game time. You would do the same if you had endless money. It sounds. It sounds kind of loser behavior. It is.
Starting point is 00:26:05 It does. It's basically like your prostitute. It's like you're hiring male friends. I listen. I've gone through this thought process because I was like three or four years ago. I asked. I think it was hubs because he went to Sarah.
Starting point is 00:26:16 He's like, what's the deal with this guy? Because he always had famous people with him. He's like, he's got a shitload of money. He's a huge booster. And he just pays for like famous people to go to games with them. And I was like, what a loser. And then I realized, if I had a billion dollars and I couldn't, if you're on that press miss, where it's like,
Starting point is 00:26:34 you can't own a sports team, but you have so much money that you don't really know what to do with it, I think I'd probably do the same. OK, so I think I just be like, hey, Justin Fields, you want to go to the Cole Center real quick? I think it's a huge loser move. And the guy's a loser. I'm going to continue to call him a loser until he offers for us
Starting point is 00:26:52 to come watch a game with us. In which case, I will change my tune 100%. And this guy's the coolest guy in the entire state of New York. Yes. OK. Maybe the world. Hank, next. I could be bought.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Why is Philadelphia content with second place if they lose a Super Bowl? Obviously, we know about the Phillies. We know about the soccer team. What's the soccer team's name? The Union. Yeah, you got it. Nailed it.
Starting point is 00:27:17 So this is something I was doing some research. It is a storyline. Did you know that content? Who said who said that? Well, Philadelphia, Max, if you let me finish. Philadelphia, the Declaration. I don't know how much of a history buff you are. The Declaration of Independence was signed in Philadelphia.
Starting point is 00:27:36 Somehow, they're still the second state in the Union. Yeah, well, the Constitution was the one that made them into states. Still, second place. Declaration of Independence, you know, is like we're just like, we're out. We're done with England. Constitution was like, we're starting our own deal.
Starting point is 00:27:52 Yeah, we got our own game. Who's in and Delaware was like, pick me. I'm first. Yeah. Should have been Philadelphia. They were second. They were close. They were close, but they weren't there.
Starting point is 00:27:59 Well, they were thinking about taxes. When you get our taxes done, you got to do Delaware. Also, I think at one time, they were the America's capital. And they kind of got that rub, too. They did. Yeah, DC kind of swagger jacked that. Big time. Again, content was second place, Max.
Starting point is 00:28:14 That's true. I don't care about history. Patrick Mahomes is probably going to catch Tom Brady for most Super Bowl losses. That's you kind of brought that up. Stole my shine there. He would get what? He's on his way.
Starting point is 00:28:26 Like people are talking about how he's on his way to catching Tom Brady. The only thing that he's going to catch Tom Brady in his Super Bowl losses is not winning. So this would tie him with Tom Brady for Super Bowl losses. No, Tom Brady is three. Yeah, Jim Kelly has four. You guys are really just, do you want me to do this or not?
Starting point is 00:28:42 All right, wait, say it again. Say it again. People keep talking about factor fishing. Patrick Mahomes is going to catch up to Brady, right? That's the storyline. Right. In my eyes, the only thing that he's going to catch up to Brady on is Super Bowl losses.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Got it. OK. Got it. He would lose this one and would still need to lose another one. But if he did, then he would catch up to Tom Brady. Losses. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Got it. Got it. Catch up. Foxes, and this is, again, like again, you wanted me to do the hater list. So this is something that haters are going to talk about. I don't necessarily agree. I love Greg Olson.
Starting point is 00:29:15 But Foxe is doing the game. Troy Aikman and Joe Buck aren't doing it. Yeah. Yeah, I've actually seen nothing but praise for Greg Olson and Kevin Burkhart over the last month. People have just been going out of their way to come. Very good. They're good.
Starting point is 00:29:27 I think they're good too. I'm just saying, this is you. There will definitely be some people complaining, but that just comes with the territory. And they're not real complaints like Romo. I think the same people that complain about Joe Buck would be the same people that would complain about Joe Buck not doing the game.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Yeah. Does that make sense? Yes, absolutely. The biggest draw for this game is Rihanna. There are definitely people who are going to tune into the Super Bowl being like, where's Joe Buck? Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:53 That will happen. Joe Buck should do his own alternate stream, like on Twitch. Yeah. Rihanna is the biggest straw? Yeah. OK. Actually, someone tweeted me that this is the most boring Super Bowl ever.
Starting point is 00:30:05 I think they were just a hater. And they're like, it's just a Rihanna concert wrapped in a football game. I was like, OK. That's still kind of cool. Sounds cool. Stephen A. Smith said one thing she's not is Beyonce, though. That's true.
Starting point is 00:30:17 So Stephen A. is going to be watching just pretending she's Beyonce. Yeah. OK. Well, he never said that because it got deleted. What do you mean? He deleted it off Twitter. But then he made a personal apology video to Rihanna,
Starting point is 00:30:30 which is like the next level. But the real video was not there. Now Rihanna has to engage with me and talk to me about how I'm sorry that I disregarded her. First Super Bowl in Arizona without the Patriots involved, while anyone even care. Now I was just thinking about that. People are talking about that.
Starting point is 00:30:49 They are talking about that. And then I don't know. I mean, again, I guess Max doesn't care about history. He probably doesn't care about government either. But I don't know if you guys saw what the Philadelphia mayor said. He said, well, blow the doors off this parade. I'm on my way out. I'll spend whatever they want.
Starting point is 00:31:03 That's kind of nice if they win. But if they lose, you're just kind of admitting that you don't give a shit about doing your job and caring about your city. So I guess he doesn't care about that because whatever. Also, fun PMT storyline. This was the first Super Bowl city that Hank, PFT and I all hung out.
Starting point is 00:31:20 That's true. In Arizona, yeah. My 30th birthday. That was a fun time. Yeah, great time. It was a great night. It led to one of the craziest finishes in Super Bowl history. It did, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:28 I wasn't there for that. I was there for that. Well, that was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Best weekend of my life. And I peed against Super Bowl as cool. Yeah, I'll count that as part of the weekend. But that was the best weekend of my life.
Starting point is 00:31:38 That was a fantastic weekend. I was looking through my pictures on my phone the other day for some reason. I was scrolling back to that weekend. And I had a picture. I sent it to Hank. It's of that snap right before Russell Wilson through the interception.
Starting point is 00:31:51 I sent it to him. I thought he would enjoy it. Did you enjoy it? Yeah, I loved it. Yeah. You always have those memories. Yeah, truly. Recross.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Probably never happened again. But at least you've got those memories. Yeah. That's not true. Oh, well, you guys, I will have those memories. You guys don't have memories. No, no happy. No happiness.
Starting point is 00:32:14 We're like memento. But maybe this weekend, maybe, you know, Max, I'm officially eating cheese. What did Mike Dickinson say? Oh, of course you are. Of course you are. The passes for cowards and losers is what Mike Dickinson said. No, of course.
Starting point is 00:32:27 We all knew you were going to end up on the Chiefs. Yeah, it's not really a surprise, Hank. Now, I'm not saying that I'm not also going to support the Chiefs, but it was pretty obvious this whole time that you were not going to be on Philly's side. Because you can convince yourself. And I actually kind of agree. Like reaching Tom Brady's Super Bowl is a monumental task.
Starting point is 00:32:47 It's just it's more like in the now, you want the Chiefs to win. Maybe in 10 years, you will be like, whoops, if he's going for his sixth. Right. But I have to sit with this guy two feet in front of me. Yeah, that's true. Philly is also coming for title town.
Starting point is 00:33:03 Oh, really? The Sixers? Hottest team in the NBA. The Philly is the Union. Yeah, title town, baby. You guys have to win the title first. Every team in Philly is very bad right now. This is.
Starting point is 00:33:19 Wait, who's the best? You need to chill out. That was a bad idea. Max, if I were you, I would delete this from this podcast. Who is currently the number one team in the NBA, Max? Who is currently the hottest team? Who is currently the number one team in the NHL, Max? I don't care about hockey.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Got it. All right. Just curious. Max, I'm just saying. For the record, it's the Celtics and the Bruins. You should have at least one title under your belt, like current title, for you to start saying title town. Or like one title in the last, I don't know, 10 years.
Starting point is 00:33:47 The Eagles. Look, I think I won. I mean, it was pretty big. It was against your Patriots. What'd you say, Bill? All right, this was like a set set. No, that was a bad thing for me. No, it wasn't.
Starting point is 00:33:58 I liked that. The haters list. It was good. Really, you got another brother's joke? No, but trust the process is probably even the biggest Ponzi scheme ever. Like, that's weighted on a city. Literally, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:34:11 It kind of worked. They've had like seven processes. None of them have worked. The process got the guys. They just picked the wrong guys. Pick Markel Foltz and Ben Simmons and uh, New Orleans as well. The, the pro, the actual, well, indeed.
Starting point is 00:34:26 Yeah, of course, but I'm saying the process. I always am a fan of the process because I always thought the brutal honesty of a team being like, we're trying to suck so that one day we can get good. I actually am a big fan of. Yes, tanking works. It objectively works. If, if the Redskins had lost that Dolphins team,
Starting point is 00:34:46 I would have Joe Burrow right now. That's just a fact. If Davis Mills hadn't thrown that touchdown pass, then the Bears wouldn't have the number one pick and Max wouldn't have a belly full of hot dogs right now, which we'll get to in a minute. Okay, should we do hot seat, cool throne? Oh, one last story.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Will the bosses watch? Are the bosses gonna watch? Because it was Nick Bosa, they asked him and he said he was not going to watch the Super Bowl. And I need to know if Joey Bosa plans on watching the Super Bowl. I have a solidarity I think you can't watch. Joey's had a last, a bad last couple of days.
Starting point is 00:35:16 There was the Bosa parking lot video. And then another video emerged of Bosa in the boxes in the luxury suites at the game. And people were just showing them pictures of Trevor Lawrence on their phones being like, this guy just kicked your ass. Oh man. And he was again, very, very triggered
Starting point is 00:35:34 by the entire thing. Just a bad look for the bosses this week. I need to know though, if either one of them will watch. Yeah, let the boy watch. Okay Hank, hot seat, cool throne. My hot seat is Mr. Beast's question mark. Oh. It's kind of similar to my Dana White question mark
Starting point is 00:35:52 last week. Mr. Beast made a video and Mr. Beast, for those that don't know, just does. He's a YouTuber, I think he's the biggest YouTuber that exists. He has like a bajillion subscribers. Does a lot of videos where the premise of the video is just giving people money and having them do something
Starting point is 00:36:07 or having, you know, I brought 300 people to compete in a board game and the winner gets a million dollars. Or he does all these types of pranks and stuff. But in general, he's just giving away money. He's a very generous guy, good hearted dude. And in his recent video, it was curing a thousand people of blindness. What?
Starting point is 00:36:26 That was the title of the video. I cured a thousand people of blindness. I think he paid for their medical stuff, but people are upset at him because they said he didn't do enough. Or like he was kind of using that as clickbait. And so now it's just a classic story of one of the most universally loved people.
Starting point is 00:36:44 The internet is seemingly starting to turn on him. Yeah, I mean, the internet. But I don't know if he's on the hot seat or not. Cause I don't think, I mean, I think he's. No, it's a bunch of fucking losers who sit on their computers all day and he, if you have, if you have a ton of money, you can't do anything correct in their eyes.
Starting point is 00:37:00 You could either, like, if you give it all away, they're going to be like, well, you did it for a tax write off. Or if you don't give any away, you're like, why are you hoarding this money? Or if you do what Mr. Beast does and gives people a chance to win the money, it's like, well, you're taking advantage of them.
Starting point is 00:37:13 You really can't win. Or if you give people the surgery necessary to see, they're like, well, you're just using them for clout. But guess what? At the end of the day, he's still paying for what? A thousand people to be able to see, which is cool. I think the objection should be the fact
Starting point is 00:37:28 that there are so many people out there that need a simple surgery that costs like $1,000 that can't afford it. And then their entire lives will be changed and they would be able to go to work and have a real job and contribute back to society. Yeah, be mad at how we do health care. Be mad at health care, not at Mr. Beast,
Starting point is 00:37:46 providing single payer health care to these people as an individual. That's a fact. And like the 300 people to play a board game to win a million dollars, like who wouldn't want to compete in that? That's fun. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:59 Like, okay. I'm pro Mr. Beast. Yeah. For much the same reason why I'm pro that Syracuse guy now is cause maybe one day he'll give me money. Yeah. Who, Mr. Beast, just a thought.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Who can stay in a bowling alley the longest for a million dollars? We're up for it. I'll do it. Let us know. My cool throwing is Max Homer. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:22 On Saturday, he won one and a half million dollars winning the farmers open tournament. On Monday, he, there's a pop of go Monday skins game in Arizona, which is just, you know, community game. He won. He showed up one shot of 67, one 400 bucks. That's fucked up. That's fucked.
Starting point is 00:38:39 That's fucked up, Max. No, I like that. No, we got to keep him humble. Max. Well, he's a bitch. You showed up and he took $400 from working class golfers. You're worse than Mr. Beast.
Starting point is 00:38:47 Better or worse than Mr. Beast. Yeah. Way worse, way worse. Max probably found out like Riggs was playing. He's like, well, I'm not like that guy win any money. Yeah. No, we, that's a cool move. I would do the same thing.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Like I always say that, I mean, we're going to talk about it with Pete Weber. We talked about like him going, showing up and playing in like rec leagues. And he's like, yeah, I still do it. If you came in second, would you be mad or like this is cool? That's the risk you take.
Starting point is 00:39:10 Mad. Yeah. Oh, if I came in second to Max in that event, I'd be mad at Max. I'd be like, I mean, it's a cool story to tell, but at the end of the day, Max Homer just showed up fresh off a win. But it actually is weirdly similar to Mr. Beast
Starting point is 00:39:24 that like if you, you want Max Homer to play in that game, if you play in that game, cause what's, if you play the round of your life, you beat Max Homer. That's fucking cool. Like imagine being like, yeah, I beat him. Like if, you know, when LeBron- He'll do one by one, one stroke.
Starting point is 00:39:40 Remember when LeBron got- That's embarrassing Max. Remember when LeBron got dunked on and then he got deleted from the internet? Yeah. That poor guy, like he dunked on LeBron. That's fucking awesome. I still think that, come on, Max.
Starting point is 00:39:53 Let the community golfers have their $400. Spend more time with your kid. You see what he said on the radio? Speaking of that, he usually doesn't keep golf balls, but he kept the one from his win to give to his son down the road one day. The first one was a dad. Well, his son's going to be like,
Starting point is 00:40:08 what do I do with this? It's a great story. His son's going to be like, I'm too dad. Does this come off? I'm going to take this off and give it to my kids. That thing is disgusting. It's so gross. It's so gross.
Starting point is 00:40:18 All right, PFT, your hot seat, Cool Throne. My hot seat is artificial intelligence because that chat GPT, artificial intelligence thing, well, they've designed a feature on it. And the new feature is an AI system that can tell when its own AI system has been used to write a paper or a blog, maybe, or anything. So on one hand, I'm glad that they came up with this.
Starting point is 00:40:47 On the other, it's a little weird that now we're trusting robots to police themselves for being robots. This seems like we're just, every story that comes out about AI in the last six, eight months just feels like we're just doing Skynet. It feels like it's Terminator all over again. I hope this new robot is not real
Starting point is 00:41:04 and they're just using it to scare people. Like, you know, like peeing in the pool in your bathing suits turned purple. That was never real. Yeah. They just scared the whole country. Yeah. You better behave because AI clause is looking out.
Starting point is 00:41:18 Yeah, Billy should be scared. I'm not scared. Oh, okay. We need you to test this out, Billy. I know. I just like interviewing the chat robot about news about it and it makes for great blogs. You think that that's gonna give you
Starting point is 00:41:30 trustworthy information? I'm just like, yo, chat GPT, what do you think about Microsoft buying you? Do you trust Bill Gates? And then it's just, it gets really funny. What does he say? Basically just sitting, talking to Smarter Child. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:43 Yeah, oh, Smarter Child, that's a nice throwback. What's Smarter Child? Don't worry about it. Yeah. You didn't have AIM or AIM, whatever you want to call it. PFT, your cool throne. My cool throne is some guy on Twitch. I forget the guy's names.
Starting point is 00:41:56 Speaking of AI. It's some guy on Twitch. I saw a video of him last night. I don't know what the fuck I watched. Atria. I didn't understand what was going on, but best, I didn't want to learn any more about it. I sent a link to Hank and I wanted Hank to explain it,
Starting point is 00:42:11 but can I try to explain it? Please. Yeah, I would love to hear it. So this guy, he's a guy on Twitch, and he lives with his girlfriend slash wife. Wife. So he lives with his wife. Maybe fiance.
Starting point is 00:42:25 And this guy watched porn, and his wife caught him watching porn, and then he made her sit next to him while he did a Twitch stream apologizing and made her cry because she was watching her husband apologize for jacking off. Wait, he... Tanner Lasky did a Twitch stream?
Starting point is 00:42:45 No, it was Alex Bennett. Oh, okay. No, no, but he was like, straight up apologizing to his wife, and his wife was in tears, and he was in tears, and he was like, I'm sorry, in a moment of weakness,
Starting point is 00:42:56 I typed in you porn, and then I clicked on one of the games. You know, like the games that say like, I bet you won't last? I didn't know anyone ever clicked on them. This guy did and got caught. Damn. So he didn't get caught.
Starting point is 00:43:11 He got caught by his stream. Like he was on, he was streaming, he was on his internet browser, they saw the tab, and they saw the website that it was, and they're like, what the fuck is this? His video, he said, I've been doing all this AI research,
Starting point is 00:43:25 talking about all this AI, and similar thing, it was a website that pops up. He's a popular streamer, he's friends with all the big female streamers. Wait, so he can't watch porn? The website that he was on is an AI porn website that is deep fake,
Starting point is 00:43:39 it deep fakes the girls, that he's friends with. Okay, that's different. So he's jacking off to his friends. No, that's different. That's fucked up. But it wasn't even them, it was deep fakes.
Starting point is 00:43:48 Yes. Of who? Yeah, that's fucked up. Of like, I mean, it's like Pokimane. Yeah, he's doing. It's names you're not gonna know. He's like, look. And he's friends with them.
Starting point is 00:43:57 It's like he like streams with them and you know, interacts with them and stuff. Yeah, so that is kind of to be like, oh, this girl's hot, let me deep fake a porn so I can jerk off to her. And then, but then he made his wife sit there while he apologized for jacking off to his friend. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:44:10 That makes more sense. He just clicked on it by accident. Yeah. And he was like, I've been doing all this AI research. So like, you try to tie it in. It's a real life Shaq meme. I'm sorry, Pokimane. I was not familiar with your game.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Yeah. Damn. That's tough for him. Yeah. Okay, so I'm on the side because this whole like deep fake thing. The poor wife. I'm on the side of the poor wife.
Starting point is 00:44:32 Yeah, I'm on her side. She got brought onto a stream to cry for clout. That's tough. As far as knowing that your husband's like jerking off to like the people that he basically works with. Kind of like it's weird. And he was like, I've tried to be a good guy and I had a moment of weakness.
Starting point is 00:44:47 I don't know what his term for moment of weakness is or where that comes in. Like I've never clicked on a link being like I want to jack off to my friends. Yeah. That's not really, that sounds like a lifestyle choice. Not a moment of weakness. But the whole deep fake thing is really strange
Starting point is 00:45:03 because we've all been worried that's going to come to the porn issue at some point. And so now there are just websites out there that create, you can just deep fake anybody doing porn. That sounds very dangerous to me. Well, the way it was prefaced in the tweet was like, I was very confused cause like he got caught by his wife like watching porn or something.
Starting point is 00:45:21 I was like, this doesn't seem that serious. And then I had to do some research and like what exactly he did in the website he was on. I was like, oh, this is very fucked up. Yeah, that sounds fucked up. I don't know who she is, but I stand with Pokemon. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:34 I don't even know. Yeah. That's a Pokemon. Yeah, it's fucked up. If a guy that you thought was your friend was jacking off to you low key. Yeah. That's tough.
Starting point is 00:45:43 Yeah. Pokemon. All right. My hot seat is, I guess how I shower because I shower in the morning. So Billy actually retweeted this onto his timeline. I saw it. It's a meme that says, blue pill showering in the morning,
Starting point is 00:46:00 red pill showering at night. And then it's people with common sense and it's a bunch of red pills. And I've always showered in the morning. I don't, listen, I know that then it became a whole issue that I was not understanding blue collar worker. Of course, if you work manual labor and you work hard with your body and your sweating and stuff,
Starting point is 00:46:22 yeah, you'd shower at night and not shower in the morning. Or just take two showers. Or take two showers, but are any of you guys rolling into work not showered? No, I shower in the morning. I didn't shower today, I feel miserable. Yeah. And then I mean, podcasting is sweaty business.
Starting point is 00:46:37 Sometimes I'll shower at night, but if I work out, then I shower at night. I don't sleep in my, in my sweat. No. So I shower, I'd say one, I shower 1.25 times a day. And the one time is always morning. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:50 And it's not like, of course, if you go to the gym, if you had a, if it's like, you know, 90 degrees haircut, there's a lot of times that you would shower at night, but it's more like people who are not showering in the morning and walking into an office. What are you doing? Again, blue collar, totally understand why would you, like if you had to get up at fucking five in the morning,
Starting point is 00:47:12 there's no reason to shower and go work with your hands. But people working like a nine to five in an office, not showering in the morning, that's fucking weird. I think I would still shower if I was working up at like 545 and going to work on like carburetors, because it wakes you up. It does. It wakes you up.
Starting point is 00:47:27 It makes you feel clean, it makes you feel fresh. And then you have the coffee brewing while you're in the shower. And then people were saying, they were shaming me, like you're walking around and getting dirty all day and then getting into bed. Like what, what do I do all day? Like if I don't sweat, what do I do?
Starting point is 00:47:41 I don't. For clothes or for? Yeah. I don't go into my bed with my jeans on. It's a good point, Hank. Yeah. Clothes, wait, were you saying clothes is in like, you walk around your clothes absorb all your dirt?
Starting point is 00:47:51 They block it. Right. I'd say they also absorb. They absorb. But then you take off your clothes and like, I put on a new- You put on a new- Multiple layers.
Starting point is 00:47:58 It's not getting through multiple layers. So the routine is, you go home, you go to bed, you take your clothes off, you're still wearing your underwear. Yeah. You get in bed and then in the morning, you shower and then you put on the new underwear. Correct.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Yeah. It's crazy. I was thinking about this. Sometimes I don't shower in the morning, but I wash my face and use a lot of deodorant. Okay. But that's usually- Yeah, we can tell those mornings.
Starting point is 00:48:21 Go off. That's usually after I work out late at night and I shower directly afterwards. Yes. Okay, that makes sense. It depends on how clean the sheets are too. If I shower late at night, because sometimes I do shower late at night too,
Starting point is 00:48:31 I won't shower the next morning. I get that, but- But sometimes I do just out of routine. Yeah. I do that occasionally. So if it's a late night workout, you shower before bed, then you wake up in the morning,
Starting point is 00:48:41 you might just do like a little dust and you get out. But mostly that's the only time that I'll ever not shower in the morning. But also you keep your AC or don't turn your heat on so you don't sweat. I sweat every night in the sleep, no matter what. So that's why I also shower. But it's weird.
Starting point is 00:48:57 I guess I'm in the minority that people are not showering in the morning. I think it might have also been a troll. I have 2,000 replies to the tweet of people debating showering. And yeah, I don't know. It's showering in the morning. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:18 It's actually a perfect debate because everyone lives such different lifestyles. Yeah, I guess, yeah. It is a dumb debate. It's like one of those ones like, how do you not eat this with this? It's like, well. Well, we should start one.
Starting point is 00:49:30 Do you eat, is breakfast necessary? That would cause a stir. Actually, let's get down. Yes, I'm team breakfast. Yeah, I like breakfast. But intermittent fasting and it takes up too much time in the morning. You can have breakfast for dinner.
Starting point is 00:49:43 No, but just like eating when you, just when you wake up, do you do that? Are people gonna be heated about this? I think it would fall right with showers. I eat breakfast 50% of the time. I think it's just weird to not shower in the morning because like it makes you fresh for the day. Like it wakes you up.
Starting point is 00:49:59 It like, you put on new clothes. I'll say that if you have an office job and you work some semblance of eight to five, nine to six, somewhere in that range and you don't shower in the morning before your office job, that's weird. Yeah. That's weird.
Starting point is 00:50:13 Now, as far as other lifestyles. Of course. We don't know because we don't do them. Of course, of course. Blue collar, I totally get it. I would do the same thing. I wouldn't shower in the morning. I'd go work and then I'd shower when I got home.
Starting point is 00:50:23 But yeah, I guess shower debates are, it was one of those ones too where I tweeted it right before we walked into the bowling alley and I didn't even like really look at it again. And then I looked at it again when we got back to the office. I was like, what the fuck? People are really debating showering.
Starting point is 00:50:38 Yeah. Listen, I'm pro shower. Shower once or twice a day. My cool throne is Bubba Watson. Bubba Watson is joining the live tour. We knew that. Also just shout out to anyone who joins the live tour like after the first wave.
Starting point is 00:50:53 You just, it's a lot easier. But he said, the reason why he joined the live tour is because quote, my 10 year old was sitting in the bed with me and we were watching golf on the TV and he knew the aces. Everybody knows the aces. They keep winning. He knew the aces, he knew the stingers.
Starting point is 00:51:09 So he basically was like, because the team aspect and my kids can follow along easier, that's why I took like a hundred million dollars from the Saudis. Yeah, no, that makes sense. So I like it. He also said like my kid loves the Cowboys, the Yankees and the aces.
Starting point is 00:51:24 So now we get to add the aces to Hank's favorite teams. Yes, you're an aces guy. Big time. Put a future on the aces. You love the aces. Done. Always been an aces guy. All right, Bill, your hot seat, cool throne.
Starting point is 00:51:34 My hot seat, also Mr. Beast, also the other streamer and showers and all that. But last one. You don't have to do it. New York Times. New York Times. Because not only did they feature a story I wrote, I was in the New York Times for the bone hunting things.
Starting point is 00:51:52 New York Times. I shouldn't be in the New York Times as much. No, I agree. Yeah. What the fuck, dude? Billy, I think that might be the smartest thing you've ever said. Kind of weird.
Starting point is 00:52:00 Billy football should never be featured in the New York Times. Yeah, kind of was like, what the hell? My cool throne is the Dallas Zoo because there's been a string of break-ins in the Dallas Zoo, breaking out various animals, Cloud Leopard, Emperors, Tamarin. Two monkeys were stolen, but they recovered the monkeys. Cool throne in Dallas Zoo because something was going on.
Starting point is 00:52:21 Leopard in there. The Cloud Leopard? The Leopard Escape, they found and put it back in. And then there was a vulture that got seriously injured. And then another monkey was also released, but then found. But someone was literally breaking into the zoo and trying to steal animals. That kind of rocks.
Starting point is 00:52:35 If that's what the Joker is up to, then I love the Joker. Unfortunately, it wasn't like a wildlife, like a PETA type. It was like exotic animal smugglers trying to steal them. Oh, I don't like that. No, that doesn't rock. But if it's just for the chaos aspect, if it's like he ledger's Joker and what he's doing in Gotham is just like breaking in and opening up like the giraffe
Starting point is 00:52:55 gate, that's fucking awesome. That's like Good Night Gorilla. Yeah. That children's book? OG Joker. Got it. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:03 OG Joker. Jake. My hot seat is Pro Bowl Qualifications. Yes. Tyler Huntley, who threw two touchdowns and three interceptions this year, is heading to the Pro Bowl. This kind of bummed me out because I understand there's injuries and Super Bowl exemptions,
Starting point is 00:53:21 but there's got to be. So what you're saying is the Ravens can afford to get rid of Lamar. Yeah. Because they've got Pro Bowl quarterback behind them. It also is just so stupid that they have to send someone when they aren't even playing the real game this year, right?
Starting point is 00:53:33 Right. I don't get it. Why do you need them? Derek Carr and Trevor Lawrence were at it as well, but injuries to what Mahomes is exempt to Herbert and Lamar were all ahead of him and all backed out. Yeah. I'm trying to think who else should have been
Starting point is 00:53:50 ahead of him from the AFC. Josh Allen in Borough. I mean, can you pick it? Can you pick it? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they were almost in the playoffs, right? Mike White.
Starting point is 00:53:59 Yeah. Mike White would have been a better choice than Tyler Huntley. I agree. I guess because the Ravens made the playoffs and he started and almost won that game. Yeah, that's true. That is true. So.
Starting point is 00:54:07 OK. Yeah. My cool throne, first responders, specifically in New York City. It was officially announced earlier this week that Barstool Sports will be hosting and broadcasting the annual NYPD FDNY hockey game on Barstool.tv. Hell yeah. Who's going to be in that?
Starting point is 00:54:22 Saturday, April 2nd, April 15th. I'll be joining the Spit and Chicklets crew. Oh, wow. I'm very excited. So meme, biz, and the booth. Saturday what? April 15th. Oh, tax day.
Starting point is 00:54:33 So is it? Yeah. April 15th. Well, I guess this year it would be. The Monday. 17th. So the way the schedule works is that time. Do you not pay your taxes?
Starting point is 00:54:44 No, I do. How'd you not know April 15th? He probably pays right when he gets the form. Right when it's $10.99 to someone. They help. OK. Good. It sounds like you don't pay your taxes.
Starting point is 00:54:55 I do. I can send the form to somebody else who knows who it is. Yep. You and Bosco. So the way the schedule works out is that when this game is being broadcasted by a Saturday, April 15th, it's at the time off in between the regular season and the postseason for the NHL.
Starting point is 00:55:11 So we will be the only game on that weekend. Oh, hell yes. So there's no conflict of watching Hockey and watching us. Love it. Watching NHL. So yeah. Barstool.tv, well, more information as it gets closer. But Saturday, April 15th, with a split in check.
Starting point is 00:55:24 FTNY versus NYPD. NYPD, this is going to be a sold out UBS arena where the Islanders play. Got to get your Irish names ready. Yeah. I'm excited. I feel like a lot of Ryan's and Kevin's playing in that game. Oh, Sullivan's.
Starting point is 00:55:38 Yeah. Yeah. It'll be a great game. I'm really excited. Yeah, it seems like an awesome event. OK. So I can't wait for that. Awesome.
Starting point is 00:55:45 Are they allowed to fight? Yeah, apparently. It's called Ruffin Rowdy on Ice. Yeah. Apparently, it gets really heated. I love it. I'm really excited. We're going to try and get the players to fight
Starting point is 00:55:54 in the next Ruffin Rowdy. Oh, hell yes. Hell yeah. In theory, could the police team just arrest the firefighting team for trying to fight them? Yeah. I don't know whose side are you guys on. Check out NYPD, FDNY.
Starting point is 00:56:07 I hate fires. And I love crime. So I think I'm FDNY. What about when fires are crying? Arson? Yeah. Arson, there's the overlap. And that's the verbal handshake.
Starting point is 00:56:19 Yeah. Fuck. Who are you on, Hank? I'm going to roll with the FDNY, I think. I'm NYPD. We know. 10 times out of 10. We know.
Starting point is 00:56:28 Yeah, I think I got a FDNY. I got to go FDNY. I just love the line in the part of the fucking firefight. It's fucking bricks. I just say that to them all the time. Also, I reserve the right to change once I figure out if there's a betting line on it and who I'm going to pick.
Starting point is 00:56:49 I'm going to take the over. Yeah, yeah, definitely. OK, let's get to the interview. Pete Weber, greatest bowler of all time. And it's brought to you by? It's brought to you by our great friends over at Blue Nile. BlueNile.com. Valentine's Day is coming up.
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Starting point is 00:58:25 And now, here's Pete Weber. OK, we now welcome on The Man, the Myth, the Legend. Now, it is Pete Weber. He has over 100 titles to his name. Is that true? Over 100 titles to his name. I'm going to set the stage real quick, Pete. I want to call you Mr. Weber, because I have.
Starting point is 00:58:46 Please don't. You are a legend. All right. Do you want me to call you Mr. Weber? No, please don't. All right. We have been doing this show for seven years now. We've interviewed a lot of people,
Starting point is 00:58:55 a lot of different people from a lot of different sports. You have passed the test of I'm actually nervous to interview you, because you are such a legend. I just want to say that to get ready. Why am I such a legend? Because you are a sport. It's like growing up, Pete Weber was bowling. Yes.
Starting point is 00:59:10 Yeah, but I'm still doing it. You are still doing it. And I still thoroughly enjoy it, too. I still love the competition. I still love being out there. So I just don't feel like I'm a legend yet, but I appreciate you. No, you are.
Starting point is 00:59:22 I appreciate the comment. You're a legend. And I think that it would be to service not to just start right where everyone wants us to start. Let's just do it. Give us the whole quote. You say, who do you think you are? I am.
Starting point is 00:59:34 What did you finish it with? Got it? Something like that? No, that was it. Yes, god damn it. Yes. Yes, god damn it. That is right.
Starting point is 00:59:41 I did it. I did it. Number five. Who do you think you are? I am. Yeah. So did it right. Where did you come up with?
Starting point is 00:59:48 Who do you think you are? I am. Or did it just come out of you? Well, actually, it just was kind of a missay, because I was sitting there, and I was thinking what I was going to say to the kid that was giving me trouble during the match. And it was like, I wanted to say,
Starting point is 01:00:04 who do you think you are with me in my house? Yeah. You know, and it just came out, who do you think you are? I am. And that's the best part of the story that I think a lot of people don't know. That was directed to a 12-year-old kid. Oh, yeah, 12, 13, 14.
Starting point is 01:00:20 I'm not real sure. That makes it even better. So what was the kid was like heckling you during the game? Well, he rooted out loud a couple times against me. The second frame, when I left the 10-pin, he just loud enough, yes, when I left the 10-pin. And I don't care if you root, but don't root loud enough for me to hear, because that just takes away from everything.
Starting point is 01:00:47 But it pisses me off. So when I get mad, I let people know about it. And I've never held back. Now, after you do the who do you think you are, I am, did you know that it was an iconic moment in the moment? Or was it afterwards where people start sharing it? Were you like, I'm Pete Weber. That was gold when I just gave the people.
Starting point is 01:01:07 No, actually, I thought, God, what a stupid saying. And then it started showing up on sports center and all the halls of shame across the country. No hall of shame. Yeah, but I didn't take it that way. I figured, well, I did something good, and bowling is getting attention. And that's what we need, is we need attention,
Starting point is 01:01:28 and who better to do it than me. Yeah, it was iconic. And I also think that, was it Ernie McCracken from Kingpin? Yeah. Bill Murray's character, he was loosely based after you, right? Did you watch that movie? And you're like, yeah, this is pretty good.
Starting point is 01:01:40 Yeah, I've seen Kingpin, yes. But that came out before I started doing all my antics. It's the bad boy of a boy. Do you take pride in knowing that you were the bad boy of bowling? Absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, I've always been a gracious winner,
Starting point is 01:02:00 and I've always been a gracious loser. But there's a time to be bad, a time to be pissed off, and a time to get angry. And when people do that to me, then I'm not going to hold back. It's just not fair to me, and it's not fair to my opponents that people do that. So let's start from the beginning. Pete Webber, the bowler.
Starting point is 01:02:19 Your dad was obviously a famous bowler as well. At what age were you like, this is it. This is my career. I know that I'm going to be one of the best of all time at bowling. Well, growing up, I bowled with my brothers. I bowled with my sister, which everybody in my family, except my mother had a 300 game.
Starting point is 01:02:41 Really? So that's kind of cool to say. Her high game was 289, so 10 pin and 11 shot. So she was very happy about that. But I turned 14, and I decided that I wanted to bowl men's league. And my dad gave me permission, signed the ABC Consent Form for me to bowl men's league.
Starting point is 01:03:03 And the first game in men's league, I shot 300. Really? And then they proceeded to hand me $100. And I was like, hmm, back in 1976, $100 went a long way. But I was like, oh, wow, I can actually make some money at this. And then by the time I was 15 and 16 and went in some little regional tournaments
Starting point is 01:03:28 and then local tournaments, I was like, yeah, this is what I want to do. And dad always told me from about 14 on, he says, Pete, you're the best in the family. You're going to surpass me and be better than me. And I said, dad, I'm sorry, but you're Dick Weber. I'll never be better than you. Even though I have more titles than him,
Starting point is 01:03:46 I will never say that I'm better than him. Yeah. When was your first 300? How old were you? I was 12 years old. Jesus. I was bowling in adult junior league with my junior coach from Saturdays.
Starting point is 01:04:01 And I shot 300, and he actually shot 299. Oh. Yeah, so. He beat him by one pin? Yeah. He shot maybe one of the best. Oh, yeah, he was a good bowler back then. He got beat by a 12-year-old.
Starting point is 01:04:14 Yeah, but any given day, right? Yeah. So how many 300s have you bowled in your life? I could not tell you. I know it's probably over 120, maybe more than that. Are they all built the same or are some 300s better than others? I have one 300 that really sticks out. I was in a PVA tournament in Detroit.
Starting point is 01:04:40 On the left lane, I had five Brooklands. Which is? Hitting the left side of the head pin for a right-hander. That would be hitting the Brooklyn side as going crossover. And then on the right lane, I had seven, or yeah, seven 10-in-the-pitch strikes, normal strikes. But to get five Brooklands on one lane, and shoot 300, that's pretty lucky.
Starting point is 01:05:08 Now, is it more difficult to bowl if you're the last lane, like if the wall is next to you? Or is it easier to bowl? Or maybe I'm just completely, maybe there's no difference whatsoever. I know that if you're a basketball player, a lot of times you prefer to shoot in gym that has a wall right behind you, because it
Starting point is 01:05:22 helps with depth perception. Is there any difference at all where you're at in a bowling alley in terms of which lane you're on? No, not really. You do have to be careful sometimes, because sometimes like lane one or the high-end lane, they have a drop-off. Like you have to step up to get on the approach.
Starting point is 01:05:40 And sometimes when you're playing that deep on the lane, like if I'm playing the sixth arrow on the left-hand side, I have to stand over there. So I have to protect myself from trying to fall off. So there are things that we have to protect ourselves about. I would rather have the solid wall there and no drop-off, because I can deal with that more than I could deal with dropping off.
Starting point is 01:06:03 So bowling a 300, obviously, since you've done it over 120 times, is there a point in a 300 game where you start to get a little nervous? You're like, oh, this looks like it could be a 300 game. Like this is happening. Well, everybody says the first one is the hardest one to throw. OK. I totally disagree.
Starting point is 01:06:22 I think the 10th one is. Yeah, I would imagine. Because if you don't get the 10th one, then you have no chance. Well, if you don't get any of them, you don't have no chance. But if you got the front nine, that 10th one is the most important. Yeah. So I think the 10th one is the most important.
Starting point is 01:06:37 Is there a rule like in baseball you're not supposed to talk about a no-hitter? Are you supposed to talk about a 300 as it's in progress? Oh, it's probably a myth. But I don't like to say anything about it. But it's always popping in my mind, especially when I got five or six in a row. It's like, hey, you can shoot 300 this game.
Starting point is 01:06:56 Yeah. You know, if you keep throwing it good like you are. Yeah. So yeah, there's a point in time. And what about the tactical glasses? What made you start wearing those? And do you think that was a competitive advantage? I mean, you look like a badass.
Starting point is 01:07:10 I'm just saying, frankly, I see you with the tactical glasses. I'm like, it's on. It's Pete Webber time. Well, there was one TV show I was bowling to where ESPN had a lot of lights at the time. And they shined the light right on the mark on the lane that I was looking at. And I couldn't see it because of the light.
Starting point is 01:07:30 So I went to ESPN. I said, you have to adjust that light so I can see my mark. And they looked at me. No, we don't. They go, OK, so forget about the bowlers and make sure you're all right. Yeah. So a guy, Eric Forkle, came up to me
Starting point is 01:07:47 and handed me a pair of sunglasses. He said, try these. So I put them on and I threw a couple of shots. And I said, yeah, that works. I can see what I'm doing. And it just added to the bad boy image a little bit more. So that's why I kept wearing them. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:00 What about growing up? You're raised in a bowling family. Bowling's around you all the time. It was something that you started to do at a young age. You took pretty seriously from a young age. Did you always love it? Or was it ever something that you do because your parents are doing it and they're bringing you along?
Starting point is 01:08:16 And if so, did you have to learn how to love bowling? Well, no, I've always loved bowling. Dick Webber being my dad, you know, it's kind of tough not to love bowling. My whole family loves bowling. I'm sorry. No, I'm just curious. A lot of people, if their family is down
Starting point is 01:08:37 in one line of business, sometimes after they do it for a while, they want to try something else. They want to move out. But it sounds like you just always love bowling from time to time. Oh, yes. You were excited up until you grew up. Yes, I did always love bowling.
Starting point is 01:08:47 I mean, from the time I started at four years old when dad let me start pushing the ball down the lane, I just thoroughly enjoyed it, you know, and growing up, it wasn't like I just bowled the whole time of my whole life. I played baseball, soccer. I'm not big enough to play football, but basketball, and things like that. And, you know, but when bowling came on weekends,
Starting point is 01:09:12 when I had baseball or tournament games and soccer or whatever, bowling came first. That was going to be my life, so that was going to be first. But it didn't take away from the other sports that I played. So my dad, being the calm, cool, and collective man that he is, has been thrown out of most St. Louis area Corey leagues. Really? I mean, that's just the Weber Hot Street, right?
Starting point is 01:09:38 Have you been thrown out of a few of them? Not yet. Oh, OK. I have grandkids, and they play baseball and softball and soccer, basketball, everything. But I haven't been thrown out yet. OK, OK. So the other part, I mean, you have a crazy story,
Starting point is 01:09:53 because you obviously had, in the 80s, you had a phase where maybe you were living the fast life, the bowling fast life, and you were able to kind of clean up. You went to rehab, you got rid of the cocaine addiction. What was, when you were going through that, and you're still competitively bowling, like were you able to compete at a high level,
Starting point is 01:10:15 even when you were partying? Oh, yeah. Being young, you can do a lot of things when you're young. But once you start getting older, it's not good for you. You wake up going, oh, god. When you're young, it doesn't matter when you wake up. But I got over it, and I started doing what I needed to do, and everything's cool now.
Starting point is 01:10:39 Yeah, I did read one story that you bold. What was it, like a 260 after slamming Long Island ice tees all day? Is that true? Yeah, there might have been. I think that might have been down in Dallas, Texas. Yeah. Was slammed about eight or nine Long Island ice
Starting point is 01:10:56 tees between squads. Came back and averaged 260. Average 260. I went from like 21st to 6th. I missed the TV show by like 10 pins. I mean, look, like addiction's obviously not a joke, but it does, because you're a great story that was able to overcome it, like it adds to Pete Webber,
Starting point is 01:11:14 Bad Boy Allure, that you had this like, I think your dad would say it was like a dark eight years, and you just, you came out better for it and won a bunch of titles after. It just, it was a bad part of my life that I wish I could change. But, you know, after everything was said and done, I came out, and I did win, and I did make a living
Starting point is 01:11:33 at what I wanted to do. So I'm very happy with my career. Who was your biggest rival? Walter Ray Williams, Jr. And was it heated? Was it like you guys wouldn't talk after matches and stuff? No, no, it's nothing like that.
Starting point is 01:11:49 I mean, we're friends. We've, on the senior tour together, we've played golf together, we've had dinner together. So, you know, it's not a personal rivalry. It's a bowling rivalry that I'm like, oh, and five, or oh, and six at them in title matches. I've beat them on TV, but I've never beat them for a title. So that's why I say that's my bowling rival.
Starting point is 01:12:14 And does he still, does he still bowls? Can we, can we maybe do a pay-per-view event? Pete Webber, final game shape. Oh, hey, bring it on. We might have to do that. It would be amazing if we, if we could get Chris Berman involved to do the intro for it, because I remember I used to watch Sunday Countdown.
Starting point is 01:12:29 Chris Berman, would he be talking about the NFL games that were coming up, and then it would just cut off, and then the bowling would start on ESPN. Yeah, I would love to have Chris Berman. I, you know, I've watched him since this big. So, you know, it's, I would love to have him out there. Is there a, is there a particularly shot that you, that you made over the course of your career
Starting point is 01:12:48 that stands out from all the others? Like the most difficult shot, the most clutch bowl of your life? Well, that would have to be the fifth US Open when I struck on the field ball to win by a pin. It's every bowler's dream to do that. Every bowler out there, and if they say it's not, they're lying. So can you walk us through that?
Starting point is 01:13:08 Because we are admittedly bowling novices. So walk us through what happened on that one. Well, Michael Fagan ended up shooting two, two 14, I think. So if I get the first one in the 10th, I automatically win. And I threw a great shot, running it out, ringin' 10. So I gotta make the spare and strike to win by a pin. Made the spare.
Starting point is 01:13:36 And for some reason, I was very, very calm when I threw that last shot to strike. I thought I'd be really nervous, but I was very, very calm. I didn't get over zealous about throwing the shot, took my time, wound up throwing the strike, and all hell broke loose. What goes through your mind during a game? Are you a kind of competitor that gets almost zinned out,
Starting point is 01:14:02 where you just are focusing so deeply that you tune everything else out? Are you thinking about other things? Do you find yourself in the zone? What goes on inside your head during a competition? Well, most of the guys that bowl on TV, they won't watch their opponent's bowl. I have to watch my opponent bowl.
Starting point is 01:14:21 If I try to look away, I still wind up going like out of the side of the eye or something just to see what he does. But I've always watched my opponent. I never think negatively. It's always like, I already gave you a shot, take advantage of it, get up there, let's go. Make the best shot, you know how.
Starting point is 01:14:42 So it's all about making the best shot that you can. And some guys take a lot of time. I refuse to take a lot of time because I think the more I stand there and think about it, the more apt I am to gonna throw a bad shot. Yeah, yeah. So I get up and I put my fingers in the ball, put my thumb in the ball, deep breath.
Starting point is 01:15:07 As soon as that breath is out, I go. And that way I feel calm when I'm starting my approach. And that's just me. Other guys have different ways of doing things. But with me, it's just the less time I take, the better off I am. Has there ever been any, in your time in bowling, professional bowling,
Starting point is 01:15:27 was there ever any cheating controversies? Ever anyone who was trying to do something illegal that got caught? I'm just fascinated, like, what would even cheating be like? The rules, I assume, have changed over the years. Has there anyone, you know, done anything where it's like this guy, like, what is he doing here? He's greasing his ball too much?
Starting point is 01:15:47 Or so, I don't even know what it would look like. Well, it's hard to cheat in bowling. Yeah. Because you always have somebody watching. Right, right. So it's very hard to cheat. There used to be to where, you know, they would put barium in the finger holes
Starting point is 01:16:04 and then cover them with wood putty. Huh. So, you know, then you got a little extra power in the bowling ball. But then the PBA came up with a metal detector. Oh, that's awesome. So there's no metal in the bowling ball. The opposite of a corked back.
Starting point is 01:16:18 Yeah. Making it heavier, yeah. See, that's the kind of stuff that fascinates me, what people were trying to do to, like, skirt the laws. Yeah. But other than that, you know, we have a hardness rule. It's 75 degrees hardness. Don't ask me why.
Starting point is 01:16:33 What does that mean? I have no idea. Is that, is that, I have no idea. I'm not that technical. Is that the ball or is that the lane? That's the ball. Okay. The outside of the ball, I guess,
Starting point is 01:16:44 has to be 75 hardness. Okay. Why I don't know. But when the ball heats up and gets warm, it loses some of that. It'll go down in softness, like to 74, 73. This is like to flake it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:00 And sometimes back when we were checking bowling balls a lot more than we do now, there were some guys told, do not use that ball. It's too soft. Interesting. And then they used it anyway. Wow. And got caught and got disqualified.
Starting point is 01:17:17 So, you know, it's just, it's like I said, it's really hard to cheat in bowling. What about PEDs? Have there ever been any PED accusations? No. Steroids? Steroids, Adderall maybe for focus? I'm sure there have been.
Starting point is 01:17:32 Did they drug test? No. What about, what about innovation in bowling? Has there been in your time, someone who's sure, isn't there the guy from Australia who does a weird, Jason Belmonte? Yeah, he does a weird spin. So when that comes out, is everyone looking at like,
Starting point is 01:17:47 what the hell's going on here? How's this guy doing this? Kind of at first. Yeah. So what did he do exactly? Can you explain it? He used his only two fingers. Okay.
Starting point is 01:17:56 He puts his hand on top of the ball. And which, if you ever watch him, he dries his left hand. Okay. More than he dries his right hand. Interesting. To make sure that the ball doesn't slip on his left hand. Right. So when he, I kind of kind of stand up.
Starting point is 01:18:10 That's what they're gonna show us. So he goes through his approach, but there's kind of like a little hop in there. And he actually does that. I can't do it. I've tried, but I just can't do it. But he generates so much rotation and power on the bowling ball that, well, you know,
Starting point is 01:18:33 when they first started seeing that, you know, they were like, wow. You know, when they first started watching me, they said, well, or Marshall Holman or Mark Roth. Wow, those are power players, man. They get a lot of revs on the ball. And boy, I want to be like that. Well, now kids today want to be like Jason Belmonte
Starting point is 01:18:52 and Ascu Palerma, Anthony Simonson, the two handers, because of how hard their bowling ball hits the pins now. Right. And lane conditions are really not that much of a factor for them anymore. Right. You know, because they can always just change bowling balls. Right.
Starting point is 01:19:10 And go to either a more aggressive bowling ball or a less aggressive bowling ball. It's just a matter of what they feel. I mean, I know there's a team in Columbia, the Columbia national team, I believe, is all two handed. Really? They are all two handed bowlers. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:19:28 And, you know, the more I've traveled, you know, when Jason Belmonte first came out on the tour with his two hands, the more I traveled around the world, like to Europe and Asia and places like that, I found more and more two handers that want to do that. Or that the one handers, what do you want to learn? More power. Well, gosh, I mean, come on,
Starting point is 01:19:52 you already got 550 revs on the ball already. I can't teach you how to get more. Right, yeah. Besides taking your thumb out and going to two hands. Right. That's the only way I can think of to make you get more power on the ball. It sounds like they measure things like spin rate.
Starting point is 01:20:08 It's like in baseball, if you measure everything, then you can figure out what you can improve on. What about the lanes? Have the lanes changed over the years? Well, we've gone from wood lanes to astrolane to synthetic lanes to plastic lanes now. And, you know, it just seems that the plastic lanes and synthetic lanes hold up a lot better.
Starting point is 01:20:27 You don't have to resurface them as much as, say, the wood lanes, because the wood lanes, it was probably once a year, you'd have to resurface them to make them even again, to level it out, to where these new ones, the new plastic ones are more level all the time, so they don't need resurfacing as many times. And they last a lot longer.
Starting point is 01:20:47 Would you say it was harder to bowl back in the day than it is now, because the lanes have changed? I'm trying to figure out if we can get a competition against the errors going. How we say, like, in the 1980s, the NBA was tougher than it is nowadays. It sounds like back in the day, the lanes might have been a little more uneven.
Starting point is 01:21:04 Well, no, they weren't uneven. Just some houses, left-handers have the advantage. Some houses, the right-handers have an advantage. It just depends on the house. It depends on the condition that they put down. There are so many things that are, the technical part of bowling that I stay away from. I am one of them bowlers that, I throw the ball,
Starting point is 01:21:29 I watch it, if I don't like what I see, then I'll change. Yeah, okay. What about, what's your favorite alley in the entire U.S.? Whether they're having the U.S. Open this week, Woodland Bowl in Indianapolis. Okay, that's just like pristine, just, Yeah, I won three major titles in there. I've won like four or five different regionals
Starting point is 01:21:50 in that house, so, you know, it's kind of. That's the place, yeah, that holds the spot in your heart. Yeah. Yeah. What about, who's the best bowler of all time? That's really hard to say. You. Is it you? Are you in the conversation?
Starting point is 01:22:07 Well, I can be, yeah. Well, you're my goat. But thank you, I appreciate it. I was just gonna say, your dad's my goat. But, you know, to me, my dad is the best ever. I agree. But, you know, like Walter Ray has 47 times, or 47 titles.
Starting point is 01:22:22 And how many do you have? I have 37. Okay. And I'm fourth on the list. Okay. Because Walter, Earl Anthony, Norm Duke, and then myself. These are just great bowling games. Norm Duke, I remember, Norm Duke was all over ESPN
Starting point is 01:22:35 to growing up. Norm's a great guy. Yeah. One of my best friends out there, and, you know, when I bowled him, it was on. Yeah. I mean, we had matches. We never got violent with each other,
Starting point is 01:22:46 but, you know, we would, all the 250, 260 against each other, even if it was a low scoring game, it was 2-0 to 2-teen, and it was always exciting to bowl Norm. Yeah. Would you find that when you're bowling against a good opponent, and he's rolling really well,
Starting point is 01:23:01 that it makes you step your game up more so than if you're going against someone that might be having an off day? Well, yeah. I mean, the people, you know, they always want to beat me. They always want to beat Walter. I always want to beat Walter. I always want to beat Norm.
Starting point is 01:23:16 I always wanted to beat dad, which my record with my dad in the PBA is 29 wins, one loss. Wow. Ooh. Well, tell me. He'll say he's better than you. Tell me about that. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:23:28 Tell me about that one loss. You let him win? No, I didn't let him win. It was actually in Japan. Okay. I needed two strikes in the 10th frame. Got the first one. I left the 8-10 on the second one,
Starting point is 01:23:41 and I didn't know whether to laugh or cry. Yeah. Because I just don't leave 8-10s like that. Yeah. No, you don't. And then it wound up dad winning. Yeah. So, you know, that was the one win that he shouldn't have got.
Starting point is 01:23:56 Was he just in your face about it afterwards? Was he celebrating or was he very gracious that he found out? No, dad was always very gracious. He never got in anybody's face or let him know about it. He was always very gracious. It must be nice though to beat your son, to get that one win against your son though.
Starting point is 01:24:14 Just remind yourself he still got it. He probably should have two, but the one time he needed a strike, actually he did throw the strike and the 8-pin hit the ball and stood back up on the line. No way. And that was in St. Louis in front of my mother. Oh no.
Starting point is 01:24:33 And it was like, oh. Did they have a review? Like replay and bowling? Like that pin was down by contact? No. If it pops back up and counts? If it pops back up, it's... Counts.
Starting point is 01:24:43 What about how many 7-10 splits have you hit? I think I've made five. And that's the hardest shot in bowling. No question. That's just luck. Really? It's not skill? There's no set way to pick it.
Starting point is 01:24:54 You just throw it one pin and hope it bounces out and hits the other one. That's got to be an incredible feeling, too, when you hit that. Sometimes. The first one I made was like, oh my God, I can't believe I did that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:05 That's, I mean, yeah. But now it's like, I made two last year and it was fun. It's just a fun split to pick, even though you get lucky doing it. It's just, the fans get excited, the bowlers get excited, you get excited. So it's always a good time.
Starting point is 01:25:26 Yeah, yeah. Tell me a little bit about international bowling. You mentioned Colombian people. They're a national team. They do the two-handed thing. What other countries in the world are significant bowling competitors in the United States? Just about every country.
Starting point is 01:25:41 I mean, they have the Pan-An games over in Asia, where all Asia, the US goes. There's countries all over the world that go to the Pan-An games. Are there different styles of bowling in different countries? Like certain teams known for more power? Well, everybody's got their own style. Yeah, because everybody has.
Starting point is 01:26:05 I'm thinking like in soccer, you can point at Spain and be like, oh, they do the short passes. You can point at the United States, be like, oh, they love to lose in the first round, that sort of thing. But when it comes to bowling, are there certain cultures that are associated with completely different styles of bowling from others?
Starting point is 01:26:22 Not that I know of. I mean, everybody's got to kind of do it the same way. I know Korea, they're very disciplined when it comes to bowling. The coach is very disciplined. He makes the bowlers do what he wants them to do. Malaysia, I guess, might be the best country, because I know a girl there, Shaolin,
Starting point is 01:26:46 Zoukifli, who has won gold medals in these games before. She has her own posters, billboards in Malaysia. That's awesome. When she got back from the game, she was mobbed by the press, by the public for autographs, pictures, interview. Actually makes pretty good money for winning gold medals. You win a medal in a different country.
Starting point is 01:27:13 You get paid pretty good from your country. That's awesome. I can't say that the US pays all that well, but I've never been to one. So you also are a scratch golfer, is that right? I used to be. So being an incredible bowler and scratch golfer, that's got to be the best combo of sports
Starting point is 01:27:36 that you can dominate after the age of 30. I would imagine in your 20s, maybe it's not as cool, but you've hit hole in ones, right? Yes, I have. I mean, that's incredible. Scratch golfers is an insane thing to be. And you also were one of the best bowlers of all time. How would you golf all the time when you weren't bowling?
Starting point is 01:27:59 Well, absolutely. I was that much into it that every time that I got breaks or even out on tour, there were a bunch of guys that, hey, let's go play golf. OK, I'm in. And even on the senior tour now, after we bowl like an A squad, and we have the rest of the afternoon on, there might be eight, 10, 12, 16 of us go play golf.
Starting point is 01:28:24 You're the Bo Jackson of bowling in golf? No, I think so. I think so. I was going to say, it sounds like those two sports are the best ones that you can possibly beat a hustle people at. Yeah. Where you just take your money.
Starting point is 01:28:36 It's a lot of similarities, too. It's good eye-hand coordination. It's rhythm. It's timing. It's the same thing. I was just saying, repetitive. It's all a different swing. Also, probably the two sports need the most mental toughness
Starting point is 01:28:51 in terms of you can't make, you know what I mean? You can't make one mistake in either of the sports. And you have to be next shot. It has to be better on the last shot. In bowling, you throw a good shot. You can still get a bad break. Right. In golf, you hit a good shot.
Starting point is 01:29:06 You're going to be rewarded for it. Yeah. Yeah. In golf, you see what's in front of you. In bowling, you don't until you actually throw the ball. Yeah. So, you know, there's a lot of similarities. And it's just that I love to be in on the golf course,
Starting point is 01:29:22 because I spend so much time inside that I love to be in outside. What about on the tour? What about groupies? Are there fans like waiting in hotels and stuff, you know, just here comes Pete Weber? Well, it's never happened to me. OK. OK.
Starting point is 01:29:40 I can't say if there, I'm probably sure there is. Yeah. Because, I mean, there's a lot of fans at the events. I mean, it's never happened to me. I know. Hands up. Yeah, I got you. Maybe Malaysia.
Starting point is 01:29:50 Yeah. My dad's over there. No. No. No Pete Weber groupies. No. There should have been. Well, I'd imagine like there's a lot of just like fat dudes
Starting point is 01:29:59 with mustaches that you're their hero. You never know. You got that for groupies. Never know. What about one of my best friends in Japan? They call him my stalker. Oh. This goes back to 93.
Starting point is 01:30:16 I was bowling and every time I turned around, this man is standing there. Smiling at me. Smiling at me. I was like, oh, god. You know what I do now? And it was like after every game, he would move pairs with me and just watch me bowl.
Starting point is 01:30:31 And after the round was over, I was sitting at the bar having a beer and I turned around and there he was. So I called him over. I said, you want a beer? He said, yes. And we've been friends ever since. No way. In fact, the Storm High Sports over in Japan
Starting point is 01:30:52 hires him. When I go over there, they hire him to pick me up at the airport, take me to the hotel. He stays with me at the hotel, drives me to my appearances the next day. So everybody over there knows who he is. All my bowling friends knows who he is. So he's very welcome with everybody.
Starting point is 01:31:13 It's great to think you have a stalker behind you. And then now he's one of your best friends when you go to Japan. Yeah. Stalking pays off. Yeah. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:23 Dream kids. So where are you at now with bowling? So you're officially retired from the PBA, right? No, I'm officially retired from the regular tour. OK. I still am a PBA member. I still bowl full time on a PBA senior tour. I do bowl some of the, like, if I
Starting point is 01:31:42 would have got invited to the US Open, like I should have been. Oh, I like this. I would have bowled the US Open. Why didn't they invite you? I have no idea. We got it. I mean, I'm going to make a stink out of this for you. Who's in charge of passing out the invites?
Starting point is 01:31:58 That I don't know either. Well, forward it to the bottom of this. Is it the PBA? No, the PBA has nothing to do with it. This is totally the United States Bowling Congress. So do you think there's someone who's like, Oh, I know there is. I know there's a couple.
Starting point is 01:32:10 Oh, they're like, they don't like me. He's too much for a bad boy. And I don't like them either. And I don't really care if they know or not. I love this. I don't like them either now. I like to fire. I hate them.
Starting point is 01:32:20 Listen, I hate their guts. Well, you know, a five time open champion. 40, 43 years of PBA member, PBA, USBC Hall of Famer. Family grew up in Indianapolis. Three major titles, including a US Open at Woodland Bowl. And I don't get an invite. Discussable. I think that's just an insult.
Starting point is 01:32:49 It is. It's like when major league eating, Ben Kobayashi from competing in the hot dog contest. This is you are. You're synonymous with bowling in America and you don't get invited. That's bullshit. It's a powerful thing that gets me to is that it's an 80 lane
Starting point is 01:33:03 bowling center, and they only have 108 bowlers bowling in the tournament. They got 36 people per squad. That's a slap in your face. Well, and then, you know, not to say anything against Mookie Betts, who I have bowled with and I respect. And I have the greatest utmost respect for him. But he gets put into the tournament
Starting point is 01:33:26 without having to qualify for it. Junior bowlers from Junior Team USA are automatically seated in the tournament. Don't have to bowl the PTQ. That's a bigger slap in my face. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I understand from their perspective
Starting point is 01:33:44 why maybe Mookie Betts, he's going to draw some eyes. But so is Pete Weber. But that's the thing. It's like Pete Weber is bowling. Pete Weber, if you want people to pay attention to your tournament, you will invite him. So whether they don't like me or not, I still draw people in.
Starting point is 01:33:57 You do. And I still draw people for Pearl Ames. Have you competed in that tournament in the past? Well, this is the first year that I haven't. We've got to get to the bottom of this. This is now my new crusade. I'm on the war path. I'm happy that this happened today
Starting point is 01:34:10 because now I have something to wake up in the morning. I ask about it. They said, based on my criteria. What the fuck does that mean? Criteria being a champion? I don't know what that means, but I would have to bowl the PTQ or ask for an exemption. So that, to me, is a double insult.
Starting point is 01:34:31 But I have to ask for an exemption into a tournament that I've won five times. I'm grudging hard for you. This is, let me just say. I know the commissioner is grudging hard, too. Against you? No, for me. Oh, for you.
Starting point is 01:34:45 OK, so he's on our side. So we've got to find the other people. All right, we're on this. United States Bowling Congress. We're going to fight for you. This is like saying Tiger Woods can't play in the Masters. Like, what are we doing here? They invite him.
Starting point is 01:34:59 It's his choice not to bowl or not to pull off because of injuries or what have you. It's his choice. But at least he's given the option. Yes, yes. Former champions always get the invite. That should be how it always is. That's what I feel, too.
Starting point is 01:35:13 So are you bowling in regular leagues as well? Because that would be fun. Do you like? Yeah, I do. I bowl on Monday nights with my best friends and his two kids that I've known since they were four and six years old. And you dominate?
Starting point is 01:35:27 Oh, yeah. I love it. I love it. That's great. They all know how to bowl. And they are 190 to 210 average. So they're respectable. But come on.
Starting point is 01:35:39 But we have fun. I thought when I first started bowling the league, the other guys in the league would have a problem. But I wound up knowing a lot of them. So nobody really had a problem. And it's actually a really fun league to bowl in. That's awesome. When it comes down to the 10th Raymond,
Starting point is 01:35:59 I need to strike. Yeah, I try. But the frames before, I just put my hand in the ball and go. I'm just there to have fun. And then I bowl a little more competitive league on Wednesday nights, to where it pays a lot better. You'd be paying more for your league. But it pays better.
Starting point is 01:36:21 And it's just more competitive. You dominate that, too. No. Oh, no. Interesting. Oh, no. Really? There's some good bowlers that are going up against.
Starting point is 01:36:34 House bowlers. It's a house that I really didn't grow up bowling in. I only bowled a few times. And I really haven't had very much success there, either. Interesting. My first two nights of the Wednesday night league, I had like $5.95 and $5.98 for my three games of league. But then I started bringing some other stuff in.
Starting point is 01:36:56 And now I was actually getting 25 pins a handicap. Oh, OK. So that was kind of neat. Yeah. But now I'm down to like two, I think. I've got my average back up to where I'm down to like getting only two pins per game. And I'm trying to get that down to zero.
Starting point is 01:37:12 Yeah, there we go. Have you ever shown up to a bowling alley and just absolutely hustled somebody that doesn't know who you are? No. No one's ever, does that happen at bowling alleys? Like it happens sometimes at a golf course or driving range to see who can hit the ball the furthest?
Starting point is 01:37:28 Has anybody ever just asked you, hey, you want to put some money on this next game? Well, I've had people ask me to bowl for $10,000 a game. But to me, that's like, I've got nothing to prove. Yeah. And if they beat me, then they're a legend killer. True. So it's kind of a no-win situation for me.
Starting point is 01:37:53 Right. Yeah. Guys used to come in to my dad's bowling center at home when I was like 13, 14. And they say, hey, anybody bowl action? Dad would always, well, what do you want to bowl for? Well, we're not bowling you. He said, no, you ain't going to bowl me.
Starting point is 01:38:12 But how much you want to bowl for? And it's at 25. And he says, all right, see that kid down there, which was me. See that kid down there, he'll bowl you. And if he wins, you have to pay me and buy him a soda. Oh, hell yes. Well, they always wound up paying dad. They always wound up buying me sodas.
Starting point is 01:38:30 So that's awesome. Oh, man. All right, so I have one last question. This has been just so much fun. It's a rowback question. Rowback.com, promo code TAKE. I'm wearing the joggers right now, R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com. Promo code TAKE, 20% off your first purchase.
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Starting point is 01:38:59 I just want you to say it again. I want you to say the quote again. That's really not a question. It's just so I can't. You want the quote again? Yeah, yeah. Who do you think you are? I am.
Starting point is 01:39:09 Yes. And don't forget it. Yes. I mean, it's just the best. Every time I watch that clip, I get a smile on my face. I do these things. I don't know if you heard of them. They're called cameos.
Starting point is 01:39:18 Yes, yes. Cameos. Well, I do them. And just about everyone I do is, can you do your quote, please? Yes, it's like cotton. And I have no problem doing it. And I love your other quote. I think you said maybe a few years ago,
Starting point is 01:39:34 where you're like, love me or hate me, you still watched. Yeah. And that's just a bet. Love me or hate me, you're going to watch, just to see what I do. That's the best. That's the true mark of a bad boy, when it's like, you might despise me,
Starting point is 01:39:47 but you ain't turning the channel. Yeah. How many people do you know that are going to change the channel, just because they don't like somebody, but they want to see what they're going to do? Plenty. Like back in tennis, John McEnroe. I hated watching tennis.
Starting point is 01:40:02 But when he was on, I watched, because I'd like to see what he was going to do. Has he ever reached out to you, or have you ever met him? No. I imagine you guys would have a lot to talk about. Because he is the Pete Weber of tennis. Oh, well, yeah. No, I've never met him.
Starting point is 01:40:18 I played golf on a celebrity golf tour for a little while. And I got to meet some pretty neat people, Dwight Clark. Nice. You know, Alfonso Ribeiro. Oh, yeah. Johnny Bench. I've met some pretty neat people. But Sunday had to be the best after Kansas City won the game.
Starting point is 01:40:39 First thing Patrick Mahomes did was put a picture of me up in my quote in his tweet. So that was one of the biggest honors I've ever had for him to do that. I sure had a bad job by us. We should have brought it up right away. And we've reached out to him to see if maybe we can meet or something.
Starting point is 01:41:00 Maybe both sometime? Hell, yes. Maybe both sometime. Are you a Chiefs fan? It's Missouri. Come on, I'm from St. Louis. Yes, so you are. I used to be a Rams fan until they left.
Starting point is 01:41:11 And then as soon as they left, I became a Kansas City fan. You're a pretty good run, you guys, right now. I'd say you went from rooting for Chris Long to rooting for Patrick Mahomes. Yeah. Good job. That's an upgrade. Major upgrade.
Starting point is 01:41:23 Big upgrade. Yeah, big, huge upgrade, huge. All right, well, Pete, this has been so much fun. And now we're going to go watch some bowling, and hopefully you're going to bowl a little. Very well, could be. OK, OK. Maybe throw a shot or two for you guys.
Starting point is 01:41:40 Oh, that'd be awesome. Yeah, that would be a good place. And by the way, what's this hot dog eating thing? Oh, you want a hot dog? Yeah, we have a lot of hot dogs, so. I could probably use it. Yeah, there we go. But I'm sure you get 10 pins added onto your score.
Starting point is 01:41:54 No, get it subtracted from your score if you eat every hot dog. Well, it's kind of the same. So you go from 300 to 290. To 290, now you only have to 290. And the one guy heard he's eating like 14 hot dogs, so he's down to 160. And he still can't get out of here.
Starting point is 01:42:08 Uh-oh. Yeah, so we might need your help. We need your help. Yes, yes. That's not good. But thank you so much, Pete. You are a legend, and we appreciate it. Thank you, guys.
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Starting point is 01:43:32 He's good. He waved it off. He's just P. Just P. Just P. Number one? We're about to start about bowling. He might not actually be seeing. So what should we say about Jake while he's out? So the bowling challenge, we did it today.
Starting point is 01:43:45 Shout out to everyone who watched. It was incredible. We had like 28,000 people watching all at once concurrently. A lot of people said it was a great way to pass the time during the day. We were in the alley for eight hours. I actually thought it was pretty fun and interesting. There was a moment last night before we started where I was
Starting point is 01:44:10 like, ooh, is this going to be good? I thought it was pretty funny. It was very funny. Yeah. I thought it was great. The bonus dogs, the lightning rounds. Oh, Billy was too so. So if you haven't watched it, you can go back and watch it.
Starting point is 01:44:23 But there will also be a PMTV recapping everything on Thursday night. We did some fun wrinkles. We had a bonus round where Max and Jake ate hot dogs without using their hands. No buns. Billy said that he wasn't going to do it. I didn't want to Mickey Mouse win.
Starting point is 01:44:41 I didn't want to Mickey Mouse win. Oh, OK. I'm talking about that. You brought that up, Billy. Let's talk about that. I didn't want to Mickey Mouse win. So you won all on your own today? With the stipulations put ahead of us.
Starting point is 01:44:50 Oh, OK. Like eating a hot dog without Mickey Mouse wins. Yeah. You used Pete Webber. Which was a stipulation that was brought up. And Max is a man. And Max, that was an all-time alpha move to be like, no, Pete Webber.
Starting point is 01:45:03 How many hot dogs did you end up eating, Max? I had 17 hot dogs. Oh, my god. How did you have 17 hot dogs? Because I lost. Oh, yeah. And he's a man. Yeah, we did a head-to-head during the middle of it
Starting point is 01:45:14 where Jake and Max went head-to-head to see who, if the loser had to get minus 10 or plus 10 pins on their score and the loser got minus 10 or the winner got minus 10, it was great. Now, hang on a second here, Big Cat. Billy, what was your winning score that you rolled? The one that I won? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:32 A 136. And how many hot dogs did you eat? I ate 17 hot dogs, but one of them was to negate the loss to Stu Feiner. And then I ate one thinking it would be given to Jake after the fact. But you ate 17 hot dogs. Yes.
Starting point is 01:45:48 Jake, how many did you have? I had 19 on my own. Oh, OK, so. But I will say five were without the bun. That's the lightning round. That's fine, but correct me if I'm wrong here. Billy had the lowest bowling total and the lowest amount of hot dogs eaten today.
Starting point is 01:46:03 I ate three for him, remember? Remember we had three in the beginning? Yeah, I ate three for him. But even still. No, 19 is on my own. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So Jake ate more hot dogs than you and bowled and hit more pins down than you did.
Starting point is 01:46:17 And didn't use Pete Weber. Is that true? I'm just questioning. I don't know. I look. I haven't questioned numbers yet. I was figuring out how am I going to get out of this as the last person to get added to this on a coin toss.
Starting point is 01:46:29 Didn't do any preparation. I won the system. I beat the system. I don't care. OK, well, I did my time. Got in, got out. Billy beat the system. That's a win.
Starting point is 01:46:39 It was very fun to watch. Max, I want to hear your thoughts then. We'll get to Jake, who kind of won it all because he was the big loser and he was the last man standing. Max, how are you feeling? I'm in a world of pain right now. Max hasn't gone to the bathroom. I'm worried about that.
Starting point is 01:46:55 I'm worried I haven't I haven't taken a shit yet. It's crazy. I don't know. I have like it is starting to hit me during this recording. I have like started the fart. I don't know. I just tell them because they've been very bad. Like I was doing all right at the end of it.
Starting point is 01:47:15 I even I even was about to eat an additional hot dog for Jake. But right now, like I it's it's it's all starting to hit. And how many do you eat again? Seventeen and you were eating a lot with with condiments, like onions. Well, sometimes the OK. Well, the sauerkraut was essential. Well, for probiotics, we were doing dirty water dogs. And like, if you know, like, like they can get the smell
Starting point is 01:47:41 of the dirty water dog can get to you after a while, like. And you just taste every bite that you take. You just start to taste that water. And I needed to mask that. I needed to like I needed some sort of muscle. I needed the mustard to kind of I needed to taste something else other than the dirty I get that it was making me really sick. I get that.
Starting point is 01:48:04 Now, how are you feeling like from your arm from the bowling? Because I think of anybody here that bowled today, you were going. You were bowling like as hard as you possibly could on every ball. You've got one speed and you're described with the sound you make after you let go of the ball. Oh, oh, Max had Max Max's facial. He was crying at one point, like literally crying the facial expressions, the grunts. There's a great like, oh, he goes, yeah, yeah, there's a great moment.
Starting point is 01:48:31 Was that your thumb popping out of the ball? Oh, is that your mouth making the sound? I was. I this is this is the first I'm hearing of this sound. I don't know that. Yeah. Oh, I made sure to get take the camera and get video. What is this? What is going on? Would you like to say anything about the tears?
Starting point is 01:48:47 The tears weren't they weren't real tears that that's no, no. There was also 30 water tears. I've just been going through stages of like being really bad with the hot dogs and not and like being and not having any issues at all. Because we did the first thing I did was just eat five hot dogs as fast as I could. And I don't think that was a good idea because it was 10 o'clock in the morning and five hot dogs as soon as you wake up or not as soon as you wake up. But five hot dogs before 11 a.m.
Starting point is 01:49:16 is probably not great for your stomach. So when we were doing when we were doing the lightning round, I thought for sure I was going to puke. The lightning round was so fucking funny. You guys just not using your hands trying to slurp up raw dogs. God, it saved me. Yeah. It was a great lightning round. I've got the the sound effect here from Max.
Starting point is 01:49:39 I don't know if this is your thumb or your mouth or what it is. Well, that one. That one actually was from my thumb. That was your thumb popping. Yeah, that was my because you can hear it because that. I think that was like in a. Actually, everyone felt into every throw felt integral in whatever. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:06 And that one, it did get stuck in my thumb. And it was a straight gutter. And I don't know. It hurt. Yeah. And now, Jake, you ended up with a one eighty eight was your high score to get yourself out of it. You you bold the longest. How are you feeling?
Starting point is 01:50:22 You you also had there's multiple times where you Lamar Jackson did where you just you you were like mid bull. You're like, got to go and just grab the wipes and ran to the bathroom. Also, can you explain to the people what what you came prepared with to the to the boy? Yeah, my whole list. I tweeted it out. What Jake's also doing this podcast with a heating pad.
Starting point is 01:50:43 Yeah, he's like, yeah, he looks like he looks like a pitcher who's ready to go back in for a couple more innings. He's mid inning. You look like Ben Rothless burger on the practice field right now. Bowling, personal bowling ball shot to Blair O fruit, providing each of us. Yeah, shout out to Blair O for the whole thing. They're a great host. I'm definitely going back there and using other food there.
Starting point is 01:51:02 Besides hot dogs were good with other food was fantastic. Yeah, their food and beverage director is awesome. Yeah, Barstle ball through February, 15% off your reservation. Love it. Yeah. Bowling ball. The risk guard was great because my wrist does not hurt at all. There you go. So I'll take that.
Starting point is 01:51:19 The Rosenbach help, too. Yeah, yeah, it's sticks. And it's supposed to stick inside the holes and nice. Yeah, I never slipped out. OK, nice. The bowling towel. I never ever slipped out. Never once.
Starting point is 01:51:32 Not even out, Jake. Not even like get him on the bonk list. No, he's stuck it inside the hole and it never slipped. Never. Yeah, not even when you were like changing up your position on the land. Never slipped out. Water. I drank. I drank. Did it ever probably ever come close to slipping out?
Starting point is 01:51:48 And you're like, Oh, did I just break it? No, but you put it back in. Yeah. Like immediately. I probably drank like nine or ten bottles of water. OK, nice. Yeah, ice pack, heating pad, part of my cheesesteak jumpsuit, change of clothes that I did not need.
Starting point is 01:52:05 Again, what were those for? In case I an accident. Yeah, I was thinking he was going to shit himself. And you and my son are the exact same people. If I sweat too much. OK, got it. Yeah, got it. Biofreeze chopped a lot.
Starting point is 01:52:20 Got on both shoulders. Yeah, why were you putting the biofreeze on your non-bowling shoulder? I didn't understand that one because this is where my torn labor is, so it still hurts sometimes when I do physical activity. OK, yeah. So and then wipes, wipes for handy. Dude, wipes and list three. Yes, mouthwash up a lot.
Starting point is 01:52:38 Max, use that too, because it changes your palate. You feel like a fresh start. Yeah, tastes like hot dog. The mouthwash is great because what I was saying about that, I couldn't get that dirty water taste out of my mouth and the mouth wash. You just have a minty taste and it was a good mental reset. But yeah, crazy. What did you bring the wipes for?
Starting point is 01:52:59 Bathroom. Oh, OK. That toilet paper there. Yeah. The whole thing was was fantastic. I was proud of you, Jake. Proud of you, Max, Billy, Mickey Mouse, but whatever. That's fine. No, I'm honestly not ashamed of what I did 100 percent. Good. It was Mickey Mouse's fuck.
Starting point is 01:53:19 Yeah, yeah. And you didn't you're too straight to eat hot dogs without a bun. You beat the system. You guys wanted to watch other grown men do that. So yeah, it was fucking hilarious. And the comments loved it. It was like, hey, yo. Hey, pause. What?
Starting point is 01:53:34 You mean you're drinking with a straw over there? That's us. I was like, at one point, I had I came and came back like you put your fingers into balls over there and we're like that ice cream cone. We have all the we have all the course lights. If you drink course, it's a it's a pin off. And he's like, no, I'm only doing if it's five pins or 10 pins per beer. And then I came back 30 minutes later and he was just drinking a beer.
Starting point is 01:53:56 He's like, all right, I'll I'll fine. I'll do some beers. Yeah, no, I think that was a good call. Yeah, it was a little bit. It actually actually did. I was getting frustrated. I was like, you know, I'm just going to chill out with a nice ice cold course. Yeah, I didn't work.
Starting point is 01:54:08 There's a moment where we saw Billy getting into a state that we've seen plenty of times when he gets himself into a mess. But then the mess becomes our fault for him being there. And then he starts to turn on us and he just starts to get annoyed at everything. And we saw it coming and the ice cold course light chilled you out. Yeah, there's also some like happy, like, get in there whole, like, when when the pins just weren't going down. Yeah. Oh, no, Billy, that's supposed to go down.
Starting point is 01:54:32 I love Billy. Like the way he bowls, he just he just rolls in as hard as he can every time. He's like, where the why aren't they going down? Angry. Yeah, I understand some people were mad that we were punting games, but it was the right strategy. Yeah, I mean, you had had for eight hours, Jake. Before we did this, you were you were breaking it down logically and you were thinking to yourself, this might not even be possible to do in one day.
Starting point is 01:54:57 Right. No, if we wasn't a one day thing, like I was going to pump the whole first day. Oh, my God, that would have been bad. I would have hated that. I would have been very upset at you. Yeah, very upset. Because originally, right? We had the idea of doing this as long as possible. Eight hours felt like, yeah, it felt like the perfect time. And now we were.
Starting point is 01:55:13 And I didn't think Jake was going to finish. Yeah, there was a there was probably like 430. I was like, oh, man, like being in years, if I was in your shoes, it just felt like you were close a couple of times. And I was like, this could be a situation where it feels like we're close, but we're going to be here till eight. Yeah, it all worked out. But you that one eighty eight was was a fantastic.
Starting point is 01:55:32 I was bowling a turkey. The feeling of that is the equivalent of hitting like a 50 foot putt. Yeah, no, you finished with four straight. You finished with four straight strikes. It was electric. And yeah, the hot dogs worked out perfectly next year. I think we're going to do you got to hit a hole in one. Jesus, I don't know about that.
Starting point is 01:55:48 That would be so funny. Yeah, we just say if we just had a fucking course and like a nice little I actually don't think that would take that long either. Oh, it would take forever. A long time. Some of us don't even call. Yeah, it would take 180 yard hole. Yeah, it would take so long.
Starting point is 01:56:04 Can you keep every ball 180 yards? Like we'd be like a pitch and putt. Yeah, it would probably be like 100. Can you keep balls on the green where another ball can knock it in? I vote yes. I think yes. I mean, we have ourselves into this. We have a year to figure this out.
Starting point is 01:56:20 But that was thrown around. I think that would be fun. I like that. He's going to buy me $400 worth of Arizona themed swag. From a bet we made a one on one match we had. We did. Yeah, I mean, I do have a ruptured UCL, much like Brock Purdy. So congratulations.
Starting point is 01:56:36 You beat me, I guess. Handicap guy. Good job. The other idea of flying to this next Super Bowl Eastward with at least three connecting flights. That sounds pretty sick. What about having to take nothing but Uber pools or like shared lifts for a month?
Starting point is 01:56:53 Or just to the Super Bowl? Oh, Uber pooling to the Super Bowl. That's that's a big honor system. PFT. No, no, because you can check your history. Yeah, people could lift people cab. You can check the history, though. You have to match it all up.
Starting point is 01:57:08 Yeah. All your all your. Jake, are you saying that you would cheat? Never. I'm saying it seems like an easy loophole if you wanted to. I mean, I'm not a cheater. I would not do it. Isn't there like a wheels up pool thing where you can like
Starting point is 01:57:20 share a private flight with other people? It sounds like broke boy behavior to me. Oh, next year's in Vegas. For the theme something there. Yeah. All right. So yeah, a job well done, boys. It was a lot of fun.
Starting point is 01:57:33 I had a lot of fun. It was hopefully not too sore. I don't. Yeah. I don't care. I know. Yeah. I mean, I hope you're.
Starting point is 01:57:42 I guess I hope you're not. No, I don't really care. Yeah, I don't really care. If your face right now, I'm really going through it. You started burping. If you're sore, that's like, OK. Yeah, I'm I hope you're a little bit sore. I think Wednesday, Thursday will be.
Starting point is 01:57:57 I think my Friday should be 100 percent. Let's just put it this way. If you are sore, don't need to tell us. And I won't. OK. Just basically don't go bowling for the next like three days and you'll be fine. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:09 Trustry, the toppings on those Nathan's hot dogs. I'd literally go back and get some more right now. Yeah, I'm like, I'm I'm finally like I finished earlier all my hot dogs. Yeah, I'm like hungry again. And yeah, I had 100 percent go eat one of those chili dogs with the sauerkraut again in the red onion. It was so good.
Starting point is 01:58:30 Yeah, the food there was fantastic. And watching Pete Webber bowl in person was just as majestic as you would think. He just stepped up. First one strike just felt awesome. Super smooth. OK. Numbers. Did I say we're doing two?
Starting point is 01:58:46 I think we're doing two. Yeah, I'm going to do 69. I'll do 17. I'm going to do 51. He's explaining the rules. 18. You can you can you can pick another. No, we're going to do two drawings.
Starting point is 01:58:56 We're all doing. OK, so when do we start for the first drawing? We already did. When I like both my numbers to be 69. No, OK. You know what? P.F.T. 18. It's your birthday.
Starting point is 01:59:09 Yeah, I think so. Yeah, it's my birthday. 96. Yeah, just a birthday treat for the birthday boy. Yeah, I think so. I'll take 96. Do you want to ask Stu, Stu? Stu is this is my number via Stu 51.
Starting point is 01:59:20 Have you ever gotten this? I have not ever gotten it. Has Stu? I don't think so. 20 for Max. Come on, Stu. It's going to be easy. Oh, by the way, I have another.
Starting point is 01:59:32 I have more money to put in the pot. Say I have another 1,000. 70. Oh, fuck. One off. OK, putting 70 back in, and we'll do one more number. I also will do 17 again. 20.
Starting point is 01:59:47 That's the sixth time. Max is just 18 again for me. Hank, are you seeding with more money? Oh, I didn't pay up for this weekend. Yeah, I got to pay for this. I have not paid up for you. This is my second. This is my second.
Starting point is 01:59:57 This is it. Oh, OK. My final seed. Splashing it again. You have to match it, you know? What? If someone wins, you match it. What?
Starting point is 02:00:09 Yeah. That was the rule. All right. You can put the seed money back in your wallet. What seed money? All right, 17. You got 69, PFT. I did get 60.
Starting point is 02:00:21 Yeah. I got 96. All right. Second number, Hank. Actually, I'm going to do 51. 18. 31. I'll do 17.
Starting point is 02:00:29 I'll do 17. I think Max had it first. OK, so. Yeah, I think you had it first. I had 17 hot dogs. That's the only reason I'm picking one. So Max had it first. All right, I'll seed money then.
Starting point is 02:00:41 OK. No, I'm just kidding. 31. It's fine. 17 and 51 hit. Oh, my god. Or fucking 31 for the kid. 31 to one kid.
Starting point is 02:00:57 45. Dude, it's all the time. You are never getting it. Billy, you should have picked that one. 45 would have given me that tax break. Yeah. Tied for second place. I knew it.
Starting point is 02:01:07 Wow, Hank, you're. Yeah. Yeah. You're never getting it. I just wanted to match. Yeah. Love you guys. Talking away.
Starting point is 02:01:18 I don't know what I could say. I'd say it anyway. Today is another day to find you. Shying away. I'll be coming for you, love of fate. Love of fate. Tell me. Tell me.
Starting point is 02:01:33 Say it on me. Say it on me. Say it on me. Say it on me. I'll be coming for you. Tell me. Tell me. Tell me.
Starting point is 02:01:48 Tell me. Tell me. Tell me. Tell me. Tell me. Tell me. Tell me. Tell me.
Starting point is 02:01:56 Tell me. Tell me. Tell me. Tell me. Tell me. Tell me. Tell me. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
Starting point is 02:02:33 Kingaway, Kingaway, Kingaway, Kingaway, Kingaway, Kingaway.

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