Pardon My Take - Brett Favre, A Great Night In College Hoops, And Guys On Chicks

Episode Date: March 3, 2021

A great night in College Hoops. Illinois crushes Michigan, Baylor's first conference win in 71 years and Duke is officially out in March. (2:52-13:14) JJ Watt to the Cardinals.(13:15-19:30) PFT's Rove...ll problem.(19:31-25:06) Hot Seat/Cool Throne. (26:30-50:31) Hall of Famer Brett Favre joins the show to talk about his career, his Deshaun Watson comments from a few weeks ago, the time he almost killed John Madden and his best prank. (52:05-1:40:13) Segments include Kings Stay Kings for Dan Campbell,(1:42:46-1:44:14) Sabermetrics (1:44:15-1:48:24) and Guys on Chicks (1:48:25-1:56:50).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, we have Brett Favre on the show. Hall of Famer, Brett Favre on the show. I can't believe it. I'm sure people who are listening to this right now can't believe it. But it finally happened.
Starting point is 00:00:25 We have Brett Favre on the show. We have College Basketball Wild Night. We have JJ Watt going to the Cardinals. Where are you going to say, Hank? You said two Hall of Famers on the other day. What was the second one? I'm sure he's in the Mississippi State Hall of Fame. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:00:40 OK. And personal Hall of Fame of quarterbacks I dislike, who also seem like they kind of could be cool guys if they didn't play for the Packers. So that's part of the Hall of Fame. Gene's Commercial Hall of Fame. Yeah, Copper Fit Hall of Fame. We have College Basketball.
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Starting point is 00:02:53 Oh, we're gonna rock it down to feel electric. Welcome to part of my take presented by the all new Chevy Silverado, the greatest truck ever created. Today is Wednesday, March 3rd. And Illinois is officially the number one team in the country. According to my power rankings, one night in college basketball. If they beat the best team in the country, Michigan, then they deserve to be number one. I agree.
Starting point is 00:03:26 I'd have Michigan at number two. The Baylor game, we can get to that in a little bit. But if you go to overtime, I feel like you should drop in the rankings. That should be reflected on the back end. So yeah, I like Illinois number one, Michigan number two. And then the rest kind of just shakes out from there. So it's a two team tournament this year. A lot of people were coming at me because of my Michigan number one ranking.
Starting point is 00:03:47 I want everyone to understand that the rankings are not predictive. They're reactive. So I reacted to the last week. Illinois was number two in my rankings. They absolutely kick the shit out of Michigan, which no IO, they go in there. Ewing theory. I don't even know if you want to do it. I think it might actually just be the Doug Gottlieb theory.
Starting point is 00:04:07 He tweeted right before tip off. He was like, no IO tonight. Michigan has too many dudes take Michigan big. And then it was like the complete opposite happened, but either way. So I want to say this for real though, because I obviously am partly, partly trolling with my rankings, even though I do believe them. Gonzaga is a really, really good team. Gonzaga played and beat a lot of really good teams before conference schedule.
Starting point is 00:04:32 I do think though, a night like tonight is a perfect example. When you play in a big boy conference, it's hard to get up every single night. It's hard to get up three times a week or twice a week. And there will be weird nights like tonight. Like Illinois played absolutely incredible. Michigan is not as bad as they looked. And those things happen when you play in the big 12 or the ACC, or the big 10 or the SEC, and you have to play night in and night out against
Starting point is 00:04:59 really good competition. So it was a great night at college basketball. It was awesome. And what you're getting out with that game is like, it did actually look like Illinois wanted it more tonight, which is the most, it's the most hilarious analysis that you can give of a game because all of my worst coaches on my worst teams, that's how they would analyze losses when I was like playing youth sports.
Starting point is 00:05:18 It's like, oh, the other team wanted it more. That's why you guys lost. They got bodied tonight. They got bodied. Like I just looked up the rebounding toes. I think it was like 45 to 26 or something like that. Michigan didn't look like they were trying to get physical tonight. So.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Well, Kofi Coburn is, is something has clicked with him in the last month and he is playing like, he has figured out that he is just a monster and he can do whatever he wants. And his, his interior defenses has taken a different level. And I just, Illinois, I mean, I, they were my number two ranked team going into tonight. So I thought they were very good, but they were very, very impressive. And again, I think it's Aga is, because I probably win the tournament.
Starting point is 00:05:58 They probably are going to win the tournament, whatever. I'm just telling you that I, I reward teams that have to play tough competition every single week and every single night. And Michigan looked like a team that was coming off three emotional games in a row and a gauntlet. And then they get to Illinois and they came out flat and they looked and you get exposed like that when you play against a good team. We won't say Hunter Dickinson's name on this podcast until he wins
Starting point is 00:06:24 another game. How about that? How about that? You can't read depressed flippings. Illinois, they, uh, yeah. I mean, they, they played really well. They're such a fun team to watch. I didn't realize how fun Illinois was to watch until their best players
Starting point is 00:06:37 out. Yeah. Yeah. Until like the last week, they're, they're a very, very fun team. I like, um, I think Georgia Tech is a team, you know, they beat Duke tonight, but they, uh, they have some really shitty losses. I couldn't believe I was looking at their schedule because like you haven't heard Georgia Tech talked about as being a good team. Cause they're not really that great, but they've beaten a lot of good teams and they've lost to a lot of really shitty teams.
Starting point is 00:06:59 So they're like, they're super confusing. Well, the ACC is like that overall. The ACC has had a down year overall. The ACC basically has Florida state in Virginia and then it's has a lot of, you know, the, uh, UNC up and down, Duke up and down, Georgia Tech up and down, Pittsburgh has looked good at times, but then really bad NC state. So that's kind of been the MO for the entire ACC. Am I missing anyone, Jake?
Starting point is 00:07:22 I think that's pretty like that's kind of, Syracuse Louisville or out round ball too. They're exactly a perfect example of what I'm saying too, again, of the up and down teams and the ACC, the ACC has had like, if you look at the entire ACC, the entire season, you, you could pick a point in the calendar and be like, ooh, they look like a tournament team. And then the next week they don't.
Starting point is 00:07:42 That's pretty much the entire ACC conference to lose. Yes. Um, so the Baylor win was huge, uh, unbelievable, especially when it looked like they were going to lose that game in regulation and their first conference title in 71 years, which is insane, but also makes sense because you play in a conference with Kansas. Um, and Duke is officially Hank. Do you want to, do you want to have a post-mortem or post,
Starting point is 00:08:10 post-humously post mostly on post mostly talk about Duke. They're out. Uh, yeah. I mean, my only, my only takeaway that is basically that, you know, it's better to do this now than in the middle of March when it's probably would have stung a little bit more. I don't know who the ref was. People were tweeting me.
Starting point is 00:08:26 Like I said, it was a ref show because some of those calls on Matthew her were a little questionable. Apparently that ref likes to make it all about himself, but either way. That's every college ref. Yeah. Duke had their chances down the stretch and they just didn't look like a team that like was going to do any damage in the, in the tournament anyway. So why even, why even bother?
Starting point is 00:08:43 Why just cut, just cut the cord. I actually agree with that. I think that not making the tournament is actually way better for Duke. Than making the tournament and getting scunked in the first round, just getting like blown out of the tournament. You're not disagree. In a COVID year. In a COVID year.
Starting point is 00:08:57 Oh, TV study. Ted Valentine called. Yeah. Of course it was. Yeah. He, he literally is just there so that everyone will watch him. I'm going to disagree with that just because if you're Duke, you have, how many years in a row has it been?
Starting point is 00:09:11 Two. No, no. How many years in a row have they gone to the tournament? Like they haven't, they, they, they haven't had a, a missed tournament. Like 96, 96. That means something. I'm calling it. I'm calling it.
Starting point is 00:09:23 That's, that means something. I'm checking. I'm checking. Like when Wisconsin didn't go to the tournament a few years ago, I was bummed out. Like I think that there, when you go to the tournament every single year, you, there's a little bit of pride for that. 95. There it is.
Starting point is 00:09:35 So I think that not going to the tournament Hank, that's, I mean, you, you can't, you're Duke. It's a COVID year, dude. It's a COVID year. You can't miss the tournament. I miss the tournament. The Aster's gone this whole year anyway. And it may, it's okay, but you, if you're Duke, you cannot miss the tournament.
Starting point is 00:09:48 No, I, I, I would agree with you. I, I think it's a little bit different this year. Don't get me wrong. Like Duke should have made the tournament with all the talent that they have. And coach K being allegedly, we were told that coach K was the best coach in the nation. That's my favorite thing to say, by the way, is like, we were told this. And then you can just say whatever afterwards and then argue against that straw man. But like it is bad for Duke not to make the tournament.
Starting point is 00:10:10 But in the, if you're going to pick a year to do it, this is without it. And well, it is two years in a row. Cause remember they, they withdrew last year before it was canceled, but it's, it's way better than that you have to do it this year than if it was a normal year. No, I think if you asked most Duke's Duke fans, they'd rather make the tournament and losing the first round than not make the tournament. Which is still on the table because you, you are Duke, you can't miss the tournament. Like that actually means something to not have missed a tournament since 1995.
Starting point is 00:10:39 That's, that's crazy. The ending of the West Virginia Baylor game was that's college basketball in a nutshell. Agreed. That game was over like seven times or it should have been over seven times. It, it's the foul shooting. Like I, you know what I'm going to do this year, I think in the tournament, I'm just going to bet against the spread on the team that shoots better foul shots. Like the team has a higher percentage, just blindly in the first round.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Because when it comes down to nutcutting time, when it's a big game and if it's in the tournament, like there's nerves absolutely become a factor for the worst foul shooting. Well, it's not even foul, it's, it's foul shooting, but it's also, you know, when you have college kids making decisions at the end of games, you saw the exact same thing in Georgia Tech and like you can't get the ball in bounds. So you say, Hey, fuck it. I'm just going to chuck it halfway down the court and nothing good ever happens with that. And I, it's just, Oh, Billy, fuck you.
Starting point is 00:11:31 I just noticed Billy's got the 69 ping pong ball right in our face. You asshole. You asshole. You know what I thought? I thought that was like a little onscreen text that Billy edited in there somehow. No, he was pointing to it. That's why I lost my train of thought because he kept on pointing to it. Either way, awesome night of hoops.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Shout out, by the way, the horizon league. The horizon league I have a long time said that is action for basketball. It's, I mean, it exists just for basketball, Cleveland state, Northern Kentucky, Milwaukee, Wright state, Youngstown state, all these things. There was four games in the horizon league tournament tonight. Three out of four of them went to overtime. One of them went to double over, no, triple overtime. And the biggest margin of victory was four.
Starting point is 00:12:21 The only game that didn't go to overtime was a one point game. It was crazy. It was absolute insanity in the horizon league. So shout out the horizon league for giving us a great night of hoops. And yeah, I mean, I just love this time of year. I get all the TVs going. I just fucking eaten up hoops left and right. It's great.
Starting point is 00:12:39 I'm, I'm excited. And like, I joke about not getting into college basketball until the very last week of February. So I can say that it's not just because of March, but I was going to say, when you said, I realized like a week ago that Illinois was good. I was like, well, is that that's when I started watching the first time you watched them, right? I was like, wait, is D Miller not on the team anymore?
Starting point is 00:12:57 No, I mean, I get really into college basketball for these six weeks of the year. Which what's up? D Brown. D Brown. Yeah, my bad. But I get really into college basketball these six weeks of the year, which I think is like maybe one week more than most of America gets into it.
Starting point is 00:13:16 But it's, it's different. It gets your blood going late at night and there's always another game on it, which is incredible. Yeah. So we also have JJ Watt. JJ Watt got a shock to world signs with the Arizona Cardinals. No one expected it. I love these signings when not even like Chester was surprised.
Starting point is 00:13:37 Rappaport was surprised. All the insiders were surprised. JJ Watt is signing with the Cardinals. I just assume it's the most money. Like I can just say that like it is. It's the most guaranteed money. I know Kyler Murray and all this stuff. I think it's the most guaranteed money and you probably just didn't want to play
Starting point is 00:13:52 in the cold. Yeah, that's it. It literally was the most guaranteed money. I think Cleveland was right around Buffalo and they were in the 15 million neighborhood, 14, 15 million. And so he's like, you know what, I'd rather just, I'd rather go not live on the shores of Lake Erie, rather go to Lake Havasu instead of Lake Erie and,
Starting point is 00:14:11 and collect that extra million or so. And it does make a difference. Like a million, $2 million a year on a two year deal. Like, yeah, JJ Watts made a lot of money, but he's nearing the end of his career. And he's obviously going to take the, like if he's not going to take a discount to play with his brothers, he's not going to take a discount to play for the bills at this point.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Why would you take a discount? Yeah, I never understood people who are like, I guess if it was maybe three years from now, and JJ Watts was literally a shell of himself, but this is a 32 year old guy who has one last chance to make a ton of money. Cause even if he went into a career of media, right? Afterwards, he's not going to make this money, like not every, like how many media jobs are out there?
Starting point is 00:14:55 How many guys are getting Tony Romo money? One. So like he, this is his last opportunity. And it's just baffling when people are like, wow, why wouldn't he go chase a ring? It's like, because rings are not guaranteed. And I don't know if someone's offering you $7 million more, whatever it may be, I'd probably take it. It was one of those slap your forehead moments because when he signed with the Cardinals,
Starting point is 00:15:17 everybody was like, wait, why is he going to the Cardinals? Well, yeah, it's obviously money is one, but also his former defensive coach, Vance Joseph is there. Right. And so that was like, oh yeah, we probably all should have spent more time talking about that and less time talking about his Peloton, trying to figure that out, which that was, that was a hilarious moment when people were saying like it's down to Pittsburgh,
Starting point is 00:15:36 Cleveland and Buffalo because of his Peloton account, which was fake. A fake Peloton account was breaking news about where JJ Watts was going to go, which is that is, that's the whitest possible thing. Like a parody account on Peloton, move over Hamilton tattoos that it doesn't get whiter than that. Not only that, but we had already ruled out Pittsburgh. Like Pittsburgh had already said we're not in the running. Yeah. So it was, we got duped by something that couldn't have even been possibly true.
Starting point is 00:16:03 I'm watching right now, Purdue. I can't stand the fact that Purdue just grows eight footers. They just have fucking the tallest dude always at center who just is five feet taller than everyone else. They're transferred to BYU the guy. Yes, harms. Yes. Yeah. Purdue always says they always have tall guys and Pittsburgh always has the like the biggest ass in college basketball on their team.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Fucking socks. I do. I do like the move for the Cardinals defense though, like from a football standpoint. Like, yeah, if you get 80% of JJ Watt, like I looked up the stats Cardinals. There were 10th in DVOA last year, but I don't know. I don't want to say DVO, like I use DVOA plus, which is just DVOA plus whatever my gut feel is about that defense. And my gut feel is they were kind of candy ass. And have like, in that division, if you can hit the quarterback, like, if you can hit Russell Wilson, you can beat the Seahawks twice a year.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Well, he might not be, he might not be in that division. I just, yeah, I, I, their defense might be better. They still have Clifford Kingsbury as their coach. So I don't believe in them. Yeah. Sorry, not sorry. I also don't get the whole like everyone out there that's like, Oh, everyone wants to retire in Arizona. I don't, I don't want to retire in Arizona.
Starting point is 00:17:22 It's way too hot. Hank, why are you, why are you shaking? Arizona is great if you guys just hate like nice weather. No, I would retire in Arizona. It's like 110 degrees. It's great if you like dry sweating on a golf course owned by Dan Marley with like four retired car dealer owners in front of you. I retire in Arizona pool. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Kill a couple of scorpions. Yeah. Yeah. Get a little dust in your beer. I'd retire in Arizona. I'd retire in Arizona before I retired in Florida. And Arizona has Portillo's. Boom.
Starting point is 00:17:55 Depends on what part of Florida. Yeah. The panhandle. Yeah. Fair. That's fair. Now, if you say anything bad about Orlando and the medieval times that they have Orlando, that's, that's the goal. Um, the, uh, only the last thing I had with JJ Watt was, uh, it was hilarious.
Starting point is 00:18:15 I seeing, uh, the people being like, we didn't even want them. That one guy who tweeted like, uh, from an inside source in the Texans facility, uh, JJ Watts and me first guy and doesn't even, you know, all he cares about themselves like, Oh, that had nothing to do with the fact that you didn't get him. And then the T-shirt thing, which Hank, I know you loved JJ Watt had, uh, five T-shirts of his five finalists sent to a friend because he was worried that the FedEx or the UPS person was going to leak it. And I, I respect that he was, uh, keeping the secret. Hank, you, you actually fell for the Peloton thing. You were like, I can't believe that JJ is doing this. Like what a drama. I just said, come on.
Starting point is 00:18:54 It's just sad that, that you're biased. What do you want me to do? What do you want me to do? You're biased against a big J. Disgusting. Um, how about, how about the guy? How about the guy who's, uh, who's numbered JJ Watt stealing? I know.
Starting point is 00:19:10 Yes. So this guy, respect. He's at his knees or to World War two veteran. He fought in the Pacific. He's probably one of the guys in the Iwo Jima statue. He's probably one of those guys. Get ready for the longest Instagram caption of your fucking life once it gets official. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:27 He took 99 troops from that guy. Yeah. JJ, just take number 40. Selfish reason. Yes. I mean, seriously though. Hank, you're such a hater. No, I was just like, I respect the troops.
Starting point is 00:19:40 Um, before we do hot sequel throne, PFT, do we have to have an intervention? Are you good? About what? You know, you know what about, I actually don't know what you're talking about. Responding to a certain someone on Twitter that I said you were going to do. Yeah. Well, I unshun them. Then I reshun them like Dwight shrewd on the office.
Starting point is 00:20:00 So I mean, he's out here running his lips talking all this shit saying like I'm ducking out. You couldn't resist the fucking that I'm using the company to duck them. It's like, don't turn. You just wanted out his name. Please say you just two million dollars. You just came up with two million dollars out here. And then my boss has said, no, we don't want to pay Darren Revelle any dollars.
Starting point is 00:20:21 You want to pay him zero dollars. We don't want to do a financial transaction with Darren Revelle because he's a loser. And so now Darren's like, why are you hiding behind your company? They can make five to seven million easy off it. And so I told Darren, if it's that lucrative of a business proposition, Darren, sounds like you should probably put the fight on yourself and I'll show up for free. You should just pull up with a, and Vanny, what would I just kidnap? That is a checkmate.
Starting point is 00:20:44 If we're going to jump Dan Revelle, I would hop in the car. I did good though, big cat. No, he didn't. You responded to him. But I lasted like three weeks. We went through the whole PFT. Yeah, we went through this. I was like, PFT, theoretically, Darren Revelle, what are you going to do?
Starting point is 00:21:02 Yeah, we went, we did like live practice and, and you just got on the field and threw an interception right away. You saw like the first pass rush and you just threw it right into a guy. It looked too good. I couldn't, I couldn't help myself because he was, he was coming at me. So, um, I will no longer be replying to any. Okay, great. My conditions for this fight are clear.
Starting point is 00:21:23 We can get you tokens. We should be one month of not tweeting in. I should go to take something away from you that you love every time you do it. No, you can't punish me. It has to be like a, like a 12 step program with step one. I'll start. Not responding to Darren Revelle. No, 12 step program.
Starting point is 00:21:41 Let's see. I'm looking up right now. Oh man. Step program steps. Acceptance denial. Yeah. You're in denial. Okay, great, so we'll go ahead and serve this evening.
Starting point is 00:21:52 Those are the steps of brief. Yeah. A 12 step program. What are each of the twelve honesty step one been honest with yourself is honesty. Ah, recovery can begin with one simple admission of being powerless. There it is. There it is.
Starting point is 00:22:08 You haven't done that. You just said, I won't respond to him anymore. I can go like the real honesty is I am, I am powerless to responding to Darren Revelle. It will probably happen again. I can stop anytime that I want. Okay. I hi. My name is PFT. Hey, PFC and I'm a Revella Alec.
Starting point is 00:22:26 I I can't stop. I'm powerless over myself. I can't stop replying to his tweets. You also you also started it yourself. Like, let's not let's not ignore the baby. You did that. You did a picture of him. You started the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:22:43 You didn't he didn't. He responded to you because you you basically were like, Hey, I want to talk about Revella today. I just thought he looked good as a girl. That's all you're obsessed. Listen, I'm but a man. I don't want to say why not believe it's part of me. Things he might live a little rent free.
Starting point is 00:22:58 He's paying. He's he's it's rent controlled. Well, he's so he. So the rent is like $3,000. He's only paying 900 bucks a month. It's written like in that Black Mirror episode where you get for cheaper if you're brand strong. Yeah, that's what I give him.
Starting point is 00:23:11 He's living rent rent controlled in your head right now, Jake. I just need, you know what? You know what I'll do? Every time I want to reply to Darren, we have a better version of Darren here. I'll just direct all that energy to Jake. You can direct it to me, but I'm not going to tweet at him
Starting point is 00:23:26 because he's still going to get what he wants. No, no, no, no, no, no. This is we're keeping this all in house right now. We're closing circles here. No, no, no. This isn't going to work. Yeah, this isn't going to work because you're just going to you're going to address him
Starting point is 00:23:38 and you're going to say it to Jake like you're tweeting. So you're going to start sub tweeting him and it's going to get you off that way to Jake. This isn't going to work. I start calling. What? Yeah, you're you're just you just you just basically found a way to drink like 25 non-alcoholic beers and just make a burner account.
Starting point is 00:23:55 50 be a be a do what any adult does. I should make a burner. A great idea. Hank, I'm going to make a burner account. Yeah, a burner Twitter account. OK, yes. What if we send him a message and say like promo for the fight? We're going to like do like a WWE pre-scene
Starting point is 00:24:10 where we jump out of any wood head and beat him up and tell him to like come and we're not going to jump on Billy. OK, and then we actually jump it. It would no move off that. No, yeah, I'm getting worried. They're going to consent. I think this is this is the problem sometimes. I like have Billy who actually physically wants to jump
Starting point is 00:24:26 Darren Revelle outside of his house. PFT can't stop replying to him. And what is the ship is sinking right now? OK, I've got it though. I've got it under control. Burner accounts getting set up tonight. I'm not going to say what the handle is, but it'll be there. OK, but if it's obviously you, it's not going to be obviously
Starting point is 00:24:44 I don't have to be something that people don't realize so that you can get it off your chest. But then as soon as people are like, oh, that's PFT, then it's going to you get the attention and then it becomes a thing. So you have to it almost has to be completely anonymous. It will be a hundred percent anonymous. No one will ever know. And here's why it'll be anonymous because the people who actually set up multiple
Starting point is 00:25:05 people who actually do reply to Darren's tweets are way meaner to him than I would ever be like, OK, like out of bounds mean to him. So I'll I'll blend in seamlessly. You won't even know. OK, let's get to hot seat. Cool throne is brought to you by our friends at Jack Pocket. You can play Mega Millions or Powerball Jackpots right now from your phone. It's super easy to use. You can either go to jackpocket.com or you can download the Jack Pocket app.
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Starting point is 00:26:44 OK, hot seat, cool throne, Henry, you're looking good today. Thanks, big cat. No problem. I got to get a haircut. Just pumping each other up. I'm in a little bit of a lull. So I'm just like, I don't know. It's I think it's seasonal. You know what it is?
Starting point is 00:26:58 It's the hat. That's a sweet hat looks great. The hat looks great. You can buy it at the Barstool Sports Store. And I'm also pumping up Billy this week, even though he didn't do simp week last week. He just failed to do that. But I am going to reciprocate and actually give him a pump up week. I can see. Be nice to be what I can see.
Starting point is 00:27:15 You can see what? That you didn't. You know, if it was if it was not be nice to Billy week this week, I would point out that you're not wearing your headphones once again. But it is. Well, it's be nice to be nice to be like, so it doesn't matter. Yeah, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. I can see. Also, Billy's here today. So that's I mean, a hundred percent improvement over the course of the week.
Starting point is 00:27:34 Yep. Yep. Be nice to Billy week corner, Billy. It feels great being nice to Billy. I love being nice to Billy. OK, Hank, Henry, good looking, good looking start of a guy. Hank, now you think I'm fucking with you now. And now I think I'm fucking with you, but I'm not. I think you should actually look good today.
Starting point is 00:27:51 His hair. Hank, is it like curling out at the edges? It's flowing. The problem with it is that it looks terrible without a hat on. And it's like gone like three weeks. No, no, no. Let's see it. Take the hat off. Screenshots live forever. Take. Take the hat off. Absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:28:09 I'll take my hat off. You take your glasses off. Ready? Three, two, one. OK, former Nike VP. Crazy story that came out. And the funniest part is that this kid did it all to himself. Yep. He is this kid who his mom is the VP at Nike.
Starting point is 00:28:24 So high up worked at Nike for 25 years, worked away up as like the VP run and shit. Her son is a sneaker reseller. Started a company called West Coast Streetwear, which, you know, classic, going to start a streetwear company. West Coast Joe's name. That's like the car company that exhibit ran. And yeah, my ride, yeah, he would use his mom's credit card and like bought and like did all the stuff to buy all of the sneaker releases.
Starting point is 00:28:50 Like before they come, some people come by them and they would resell them at a price, make money off it. No one knew that his mom was the VP of Nike. He went out of his way basically to do a story and like tell all this information to Bloomberg. Yep. And called the Bloomberg reporter one time, like asked about the story. And because of her, his mom paid the cell phone bill. Her name showed up on the caller ID, which made the reporter obviously like,
Starting point is 00:29:13 that's interesting, looked it up, connected dots, put it together. And then so the story that the kid was just trying to like gas himself up. Basically, it was just all ego like he was just trying to get pressed for himself. Ended up like getting like fucked his mom over. His mom had to quit. Yeah. And like expose the entire Nike industry. Good, where we sell business. And like, it's all just because this kid had a huge ego.
Starting point is 00:29:34 And he's trying to like get repressed. It's the perfect story for 2021. This kid like paid for Bloomberg to write a story about him, where his, you know, being like, wow, this guy is such a great entrepreneur. Oh, yeah. Forgot to mention that your mom's a fucking higher up. Seasweet person at Nike. Like it's just perfect. So was he using her position to get the shoes early to like to win the auctions?
Starting point is 00:29:58 Well, so because all I know I don't think anyone ever actually wins a sneakers auction because I swear to God, I've never seen anybody be like, this is awesome. I just want it's always like, yeah, fuck me. Why am I doing this? I waste another Saturday morning. So there are two things. One is that he was using so he was pretending that he was like this big entrepreneur and like, wow, like, you know, it does sound like he's got a good business. I'm doing it all on my own grinding out here.
Starting point is 00:30:21 He was using his mom's credit card and there was also he he quote unquote found three Marty McFly shoes in a warehouse in Oregon, like just happened upon them, these super, super expensive shoes. And they think like that was clearly his mom just giving them to him. Yes. So he's the whole. So he was using bots that were illegal. And then he was also basically like conveniently he had, you know, information about when shoes were going to be taken off the market forever.
Starting point is 00:30:49 So it's like he would be able to buy those shoes before they got taken off the market. And then once they get taken off the market, they're worth a lot more. So he and then in this article, basically, he was like, well, you know, if you live in Portland area, there's so many Nike and Adidas execs. It's just a good place to sell shoes. Like, if you know the right people, OK, he's saying like not not the fact that the right people was his fucking mom. He's like, this is information you could glean by just hanging out
Starting point is 00:31:12 in a coffee shop in Portland because everyone's talking about these shoes and when they're going to go on sale. But his mom's saying that she had nothing to do with it. No, his mom quit. I mean, yeah, it was he was using for 25. He was using her credit card for retirement plan. Her dad. I mean, that's the thing. It's like he better sell some fucking George. He better hope that it was he was involved.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Her mom was involved because otherwise like that kid screwed for life. Like if her if her mom was taking a cut or whatever, then they're in it together. But there's a good chance that he was just he just fucked his mom over in her entire career when cloud chasing goes wrong. Yeah, it said he was making two hundred fifty thousand dollars a month. She better have had something to do with it. He had a big boy. Jadall, like a young kid who has like probably a ten million dollars.
Starting point is 00:31:54 I'm just going to say this, I kind of like this kid. No, the kid saw an opportunity. No and he maximized his earning potential. Wrong. I he was stealing his house money. Yeah, exactly. His own warehouse. Dude, that kid is a fucking CEO boss. No. But I was like, I was like, I was like, I'm lying about. I was like, I'm taking your life and he was like, it's all self made.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Like he was he was the worst putting out that he was a self made entrepreneur of like he's like he had all the money came from his mom he's had all the inside information and he's the reason pf every other richard person's parent like parents had money that's how they became rich he just he stole it but he's the reason why you don't win sneakers auctions like these type of people who are basically gaming the system with bots it ruins it for everyone else it sucks I'm happy that this kid got exposed and maybe like regular people can start buying shoes I don't I don't fuck around with these
Starting point is 00:32:44 made-up marketplaces like sneakers I spend my money on solid investments like Dogecoin and Alex Caruso gifts fuck this kid I'm so happy it was such a great story especially the fact that he like sought out Bloomberg to do the story about him and the fact that he's making hundreds of thousands of dollars a month but his mom is still paying his phone bill which is like the smoking gun of how he got caught right he had this one I saw this one picture of like all these shoeboxes that he had on this deck where he had I don't know it's probably 500 shoes that he's just marking up and ripping people off ah it was beautiful
Starting point is 00:33:17 story like it got to be too much where it's like a warehouse he was almost running his own like literally had no more room right you you are now at the point it's like it's like almost it's almost as if like a ticket scalper bought 60,000 seats yeah a football game it's like well what the fuck dude no one can go to this game now just it's sad to see you guys not respecting the grind of a youngster out there I love this story it was so great to see this kid get it all right what's your cool drone my cool throne I have a couple first one Jason Sudeikis he won best actor for Ted Lasso I just watched the show this
Starting point is 00:33:51 weekend so it was it was one of those things where you know you watch the show over the weekend and all of a sudden boom Golden Globes he wins it's like good for Jason yeah I don't know why he hasn't come on the show at any point it's a young it's it's it's right up our alley Ted Lasso was one of those shows that I sat down started watching it I wanted to hate it was goofy I wanted to hate it because I was like this is a commercial corny they're turning a commercial into a full-length show and it ended up just it warmed my ice cold tiny little heart I felt good after watching every episode it's so rare to find something in
Starting point is 00:34:22 2021 that you consume and you actually feel better yeah about the world after watching it and Ted Lasso was one of those things although I didn't like to play that he drew up at the end the football it's the most meta show ever because you start it and you're like this is the cornyest most obnoxious thing ever and then you fall in love with Ted Lasso just like everyone falls in love with Ted Lasso yeah do it to you it was goofy and then I was like crying at points yes it's incredible yeah they broke through the television screen because I think everyone had the exact same experience we're like whoa this is
Starting point is 00:34:55 corny it's a fucking commercial made into a show oh wait I love Ted Lasso I wish Ted Lasso was my dad yeah well by the end of it I was like I would like for the Washington football team to hire Ted Lasso yes right like you can't convince me that Ted Lasso couldn't take the jets to 10 and 6 yeah and then in his acceptance speech I don't think he was expecting to win because he won and then he he was like well okay yeah like 10 assault I mean you only have like a minute in those awards he looked like he was enjoying some three it took him like five minutes to get his thoughts together he also three chi but you think
Starting point is 00:35:28 you're just gonna be sitting there like waving and then also you get called on and you're like oh I have to I have to speak this is bad he won though that that awards show not only because he won the award but the fact that he would didn't dress up like the losers who got in their tuxes like dude this is the one year where you don't have to dress up be a normal person mm-hmm like don't you don't have to the most abnormal thing you can do is dressing up in a tuxedo in your own home and then hopping on a zoom yeah like just be yourself and so seeing him and then Don Cheadle telling him to wrap it up in his talks you're
Starting point is 00:36:01 like all right Jason Stake has won this because he's just hanging out on a Sunday night it also been sick if he was wearing like a suit top and then just no pants and he like stood up to accept the award in his underwear that would have been cool too but it is it's one of the best shows that I've seen on television like the last three years it's very good very good I'm simping for Ted Lasso hard over here all right your hot seat cool to our PFT my hot seat is unpaid internships mm-hmm unpaid internships on the hot seat Billy is paid I don't like that look on your face Billy we look because he stole one
Starting point is 00:36:31 of his hot seat cool all right we pay we pay you in wrap in rabbit meat on a bi-weekly basis so you paid handsomely but Jane Slater full disclosure she's a friend I like Jan I think she's a very nice person and she she tweeted out yesterday that she was looking for an unpaid intern for her friend or for like an acquaintance who is setting up some sort of like digital media thing it was gonna be like a part-time thing for a student who is still in college and Twitter came down on her with the heat of a thousand sons and just did not stop and I think like it became a thing where some people were using the excuse to
Starting point is 00:37:07 talk about to like backlash against the backlash to be like this is how hard how hard I grinded on my way up you know like I were I worked ten hours a day unpaid and walked uphill both ways to it and certainly there's like a lot of hard work that goes into where we got at this point but I'm not gonna sit here and act like it's not because we're hot like at the end of the day like we slept our way to the top like anybody else but people people were saying like we that unpaid internships are like the worst thing on earth and it is actually like it sucks on tape unpaid internships suck it's not really fair for people that
Starting point is 00:37:39 can't afford to take them but it became one of those things where it was just a day of dunking on Twitter I just I felt bad for at the end of the day but some people were making a good point which is like hey if you can afford like big cat was saying earlier the NFL was looking for unpaid NFL can afford it if you can afford to pay interns you should probably pay interns I just wonder I totally agree that you internship should be paid we've we've passed that you know I mean like ten years ago that's how it was that you get there's unpaid internships everywhere and my take is just because it sucked for some people doesn't mean it
Starting point is 00:38:15 should suck for everyone like we should move forward and be like hey if you're doing work if you're doing a service you should get paid for it but I just I love when everyone just makes the same point on Twitter just and and and like continually dunks on someone or dunks on a topic and it's like you guys aren't doing anything you're just you're not you're talking to no one you're just shouting into a void someday you're gonna realize this was all worstless yes yeah it was it was a day on Twitter that I felt worse after yeah they all right I felt I read I was just like this kind of I was like I gotta go home and get it
Starting point is 00:38:48 head lasso the point's not wrong it's just it's obnoxious when everyone makes it over and over trying to be like here's how right I am yeah exactly yeah Billy in defense of unpaid internships oh no really no right now I love it yes we'll negotiate wait if I don't negotiate a nutshell everybody in the room was like you should pay interns more and then Billy's like actually I if I were gonna be nice to Billy this week which I am being nice ability this week I tell him to shut his mouth right now and not go any further because he's about to dig himself a grave but go ahead a lot of people who are qualified
Starting point is 00:39:26 for the unpaid internships mm-hmm are part of institutions mm-hmm private Republic mm-hmm that provide funding mm-hmm for people who take unpaid internships mm-hmm cuts in their vested interests mm-hmm that their students are saying like like Northwestern University my Medell school of journalism right we pay our students to take unpaid internships exactly it's just a matter where the money is coming from right but what about people that don't go to those schools like hypothetically Medell Northwestern these like elite institutions that you're speaking of it's free to go there
Starting point is 00:40:04 right no okay so you do have to pay them to go there so they'll pay part of your salary so the point Billy I think what people were making and I agree with but again it was a noxious how everyone had to make it over and over and over ad nauseam but the point I think people are trying to make is that when you have an unpaid internship you're basically stopping a bunch of people from getting that internship because they can't afford to live with no pay whereas some people with a safety net can be like oh I'm gonna go have an unpaid interest internship for a year and you know my parents or someone will help me out
Starting point is 00:40:38 financially whether it be rent food whatever it may be so you're basically shutting off an entire group of people who can't afford to take an unpaid internship therefore that's wrong and I agree with that do you get that part yeah yeah okay okay see be nice to Billy yeah Billy's shown a lot of growth actually one thing I've noticed about him in the last couple weeks when he's wrong about something instead of being like no I'm not wrong and then thinking of new lies to tell you about why he's not wrong he's actually been like yeah my bad I've heard Billy say my bad like five times even though that does make you beta yeah
Starting point is 00:41:11 I'm just conceiving yeah they should actually make Twitter there should just be one boss like blue checkmark who just makes the one point and then leaves it Magic Johnson like that's it there's the point instead of a bit like a thousand journalists all making the same point and and talking down to people and then eventually making everyone be like this kind of sucks yeah who do you think the boss journalist in America would be Peter King Peter maybe maybe Peter King but I feel like Peter gets dunked on a lot too he does he does Richard Deitch and Peter King definitely is a back in my day guy yeah Richard Deitch for Canada
Starting point is 00:41:46 okay ghost of Walter Cronkite there it is yeah start the Twitter account my cool throne is Chicago Bears hydration levels he stole that for me what do you mean I stole that I was my my hot seat cool throne okay well we can discuss it together okay so the Chicago Bears hired Tom Herman former Texas correct head coach as their special projects coach meaning I get he's going to do one of two things when I hear special projects which is a hilarious name for an NFL coach that you're hiring the special projects guy I think one he's either just going to be the full-time quarter rail Patterson offensive coordinator just
Starting point is 00:42:21 designing plays nonstop for quarter rail or two he is just going to be running a 24-7 pistol laboratory to make sure that they're maintaining those elite hydration levels he's the guy at Texas that put the charts next to the urinals and it showed like on a scale of semen to red how yellow is your pee and then depending on what level you were at that's how good you were going to play that week so three which is actually I think the reality of the situation is Matt Nagy and it's maybe the first smart thing he's done is if you hire enough people that you can then pass the blame around to it might give you a little
Starting point is 00:42:54 more time that's true and it's also a great excuse to incept other people like when you when you say my biggest flaw is I need to get better at delegating it's great because it makes everybody else think to themselves that guy works too hard yeah that guy's such a damn hard worker he needs to learn how to not focus on being great at everything all by himself he needs to hire a couple people and spread it out so the interesting it's it's really a life comes at you fast moment for Tom Herman because it was what four years ago where he was hired at Texas from Houston he remember he had the his business
Starting point is 00:43:28 card that said like future head coach of Texas yep he was the perfect hire he was the dream hire he was a A-plus slam dunk and now he just got invited to the Titanic and he's like yes first-class please well you don't know that maybe he had a special project coordinator for Chicago Bears business I don't know why you'd want to join this coaching staff I mean they they unless unless unless Tom Herman was told that they get they got Russell Wilson or Deshaun Watson you were signing up for a ship that is sinking but basically his options probably came down to Chicago Bears special projects guy or the guy that cleans Nick Saban's
Starting point is 00:44:03 toilets and he was like you know what I'd rather stay away a shot yeah I rather say well that that brings to mind another question where if you're talking about piss like he might just be hired to design a chamber that's big enough for all of Nick Foles's piss to fit into analyze it it's whatever I just hire as many people as you want I don't care it's that nothing's gonna change I do I do love that strategy though to just be like I need to you know my my biggest fault is I need to get better at letting go of things yeah no easy they're gonna pass it around they're gonna pass this be hot potato in in Hell's Hall for
Starting point is 00:44:37 the entire year next year where it's me you know you do this you do that here you call plays alright what do we want to do install here and then eventually it's gonna lead to the same spot and everyone's gonna be like accountability accountability communication blah blah blah fuck off all right I guess I have to on the fly I'll change my hot seat cool throne they both got taken my hot seats is the 16 game schedule for the NFL because it looks like we're going to 17 and my cool throne will be the 18 game schedule because as soon as we go to 17 we're gonna go to 18 it's the greatest like slight a hand the NFL is
Starting point is 00:45:12 doing here where they're saying 17 games 17 games they're gonna do 17 games and then they're gonna be like well it's not fair that some teams get more home games than others we gotta go to 18 well 17 games it just doesn't sound right it has to be an even number you can't just like commit to an odd number that throws everything off you there's gonna be no more teams that are 500 and Jeff Fisher is shaking his boots somewhere I I saw some of the rules that are gonna change it actually is awesome so there might be a Monday night football playoff game yeah I like that yep they're going to do so the the 17th home game is
Starting point is 00:45:47 actually gonna be decided it's just gonna flip flop so one year all AFC one year all NFC and then the extra game that they're gonna add which is very cool it's gonna be who you played last year division wise so like last year the NFC North played the we played the AFC West right I can't think I've permanently blocked all Chicago games in my brain no we didn't play the Chiefs you play the Dolphins do you play the Jaguars do you play the Raiders no we played the South we played the South Jaguars Titans yes we play the cult so you'd go top of the NFC North number one NFC North the next year plays the number one in the I like
Starting point is 00:46:28 that I like that that's so it's like almost whatever happened last year and then you you match up that way so you basically get you know four great games hypothetically speaking if all things stay the same and I just and also we might eventually get to a point where we get Super Bowl and then president so what happened this year yeah what happened this year that I looked at the calendar and said that next year it would be the Super Bowl would be the weekend of president's day perfect it's being credible we've all been lobbying for that the day after the Super Bowl to be a national holiday which it should
Starting point is 00:46:59 no one should be forced to go to work that hungover ever it just makes the winter shorter yeah it also cucks Abraham Lincoln and George Washington too because like no one's gonna celebrate pre I'm a big president's day guy I'm not gonna think about them at all no but you have a full day to just full day is great I like I like that a lot and you're right there's no way that's gonna stay at 17 no no they got a chance so Winnie the Pooh verbal meme 17 games Winnie the Pooh in a top hat in a monocle 18 game season so it's gonna happen all right Billy your hot seat cool throne I actually have a couple oh I was surprised you didn't
Starting point is 00:47:34 take him soldier boy is soldier boy versus the WWE soldier boy come to the rap game is faker than WWE and now he's in a Twitter war with Randy Orton okay not a great place to be so yeah soldier boy was WWE another hot seat was internships and then who's on the hot seat soldier boy because every WWE superstar says good in the ring man let's do this is this a work yes it sounds like soldier boy has an album coming out wrestling stuff I'm not actually don't be nice to Billy weak not gonna say it I was gonna say something about wrestling whether it's real or fake but I'm not gonna say it and I agree
Starting point is 00:48:11 it's real um hot seat everyone deep fakes are getting scarily real the Tom Cruise the Tom Cruise one yeah on the golf course yep yep you know we could get deep faked yeah I'm sure that I've been deep faked alright everybody in this room has probably been deep faked at least once just make my cock big okay my first cool throne is Dan Campbell oh no we're gonna do that as a segment so skip to the next one my actually this is a do you guys know the story about DJ Cooper from 2019 this is like Billy just open Mike yeah go yeah nice what he just hear about this one DJ
Starting point is 00:48:52 Cooper yeah you hear about it go ahead no I didn't well he was a former Ohio University basketball player okay went to play overseas and he took a drug test as usual federal International Basketball Association he's tested positive for pregnancy congratulations yeah which is usually a masking agent correct no he used his girlfriend's piss haha pass the drug test found out she was pregnant that way mixed up so he got well it's good well it's bad wait wait what if it was a golden shower situation what if he ingested some of her piss then when you pissed that piss out wouldn't your piss then say that you're
Starting point is 00:49:32 pregnant actually no when you're pregnant you can't pee that's when the water breaks you pee for the first time anyway it comes out suspended for fraud and a father ah nice relations nice Jake did you have anything we missed I have a few oh well like for sake of timing we don't have to do I was your best ones okay I'll do one of each my hot seat is being scared there was this local San Diego reporter named Jeff McAdam he was doing a live shot and there were shots fired behind him he did not flinch yeah I saw that yeah so cool throne would be vacations there's going to be a hell yeah fully vaccinated
Starting point is 00:50:13 don't yeah out in Israel nice I'm there they're back I don't okay yes get fully vaccinated yeah we'll be back yeah get your shots hey this is only temporary this is only temporary we'll have John Ross seen on soon Sunday selection Sunday everyone keeps asking selection Sunday is our Rothstein day I'm so excited for a summer of being able to be a summer again mm-hmm yeah bring on the whole year all right let's get to our interview before we do that PFT you had something you want to tell the people I have a lot of things I want to tell the people and most importantly I want to tell them about 3G 3G is one of our
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Starting point is 00:52:04 promo code PARDON at checkout get 5% off your order promo code PARDON 5% off your order at 3G.com and here he is Brett Favre okay we now welcome on NFL Hall of Famer Brett Favre he's got a podcast it's called Bowling and Favre Bowling with Favre you can find it on podcast one thank you for joining us Brett we appreciate it I know everyone probably jokes and asks the question like are you really retired I'm not going to ask that but I was thinking about what the first question would be and I was curious when was the last time you actually had a conversation about potentially coming back after you had finally retired after I
Starting point is 00:52:48 after my second year with the Vikings there was there was no conversation not on my end now think I want to say my my agent Bus Cook received a call from from some team maybe the following year had a couple of quarterbacks get hurt but but I'm not sure on that but I knew I was done I had enough well I actually wanted I mean we can get to this right now I would love for you to tell that story the Cory Wooten story because I just told you before we started that I'm a Bears fan so you tortured me but Cory Wooten putting you on the ground on that cold turf and I watched a video where you you basically came to eating a chili dog is that right almost I was one of the few times in my career when I say a few
Starting point is 00:53:46 maybe one other time where I blacked out where I was this one obviously was it was actually the last play I ever played and if you can remember back and it was the game was played outdoors University of Minnesota because the dome had collapsed and too much snow so the field was they were done playing so they didn't think it'd be used until the next year it was glazed over with I mean it was like hockey rink and it was one of the more harmless hits that I don't mean I wasn't even a hit he really pushed me slipped on the ice hit my head next thing I know I wake up and our trainer Eric Sugarman is kind of shaking me a little bit say buddy okay and that then I woke up I actually heard myself snoring believe it or not I said
Starting point is 00:54:43 what happened I didn't feel any pain just just kind of disoriented and he said we had a had a concussion so as with each minute the fogging is kind of dissipated and we went straight into the locker room took a shower took a hot shower walked back out on the field had code on got me a chili dog and a hot chocolate and and I knew right then and there that I was done there's never a good time as we know now concussions are our major major issue and can lead to serious health issues concussions when I first entered the league if you even thought about taking a couple plays off because of the concussion you were considered a you know a wuss but that's changed but I knew so I knew the seriousness of the of the injury and the possible repercussions if you will
Starting point is 00:55:48 so I knew I said you know I'm telling myself all these things on the sideline this is if there was ever a sign this is it you know not to mention I'm in my 20th year you know physically I started feeling it was starting to take his toll just on every day wear and tear and then I get this major concussion so I said I'm done and I never look back we are one of my favorite parts of every NFL season is is when people would just like toss your name out there because I think for the next five or six years after you retired it was still like maybe we could give Brett Farvok all like the second a starter got hurt your name was the first one that would always come up if it were to happen right now because I still do like to
Starting point is 00:56:38 imagine it if you had to step in for a weekend let's say it was a system you let's say it was John Groon let's say you went to the Raiders you got you got a Friday install you got a dozen reps in practice with your center with your receivers how many yards could you go out there and throw four on Sunday right now I don't know I probably need a few more maybe a couple weeks to kind of get my arm back in shape which it's not that far out of shape don't get me wrong I'm never gonna throw the ball 80 80 yards like I did back in my prime but you in a real life football game you don't throw it 80 yards you throw it you know two three yards five 10 15 maybe an occasional 40 but I could do that I just they can't promise me they're they're not gonna hit me right right
Starting point is 00:57:31 you know I'm I'm 51 years old and I can't complain I feel probably better than I should all things considering that so that would be the biggest issue for me I my last year which was my last year was in Minnesota I knew uh physically it finally kind of hit me you know I'm being practiced and it was it was laborious to get to practice not to practice was necessarily hard it was the same probably easier than it was in my early years because they'd stale back but it was just it was hard to get through it you know everything kind of hurt uh you know maybe not terribly bad but it was like right hip would be hurting along with my left ankle back my right shoulder maybe the sore so you know as far as going back to play I could do it
Starting point is 00:58:27 but I think the repercussions would be uh I would regret it certainly well the good news is Dr. Heat Greg Williams is probably not going to be a defensive coordinator next year so you won't have to worry about him busting you up like he did in that Saints Vikings playoff game could you tell even by Dr. Heat standards that he was turning up the heat a little bit high in that bounty gate I've been asked a lot about that game uh did I have any knowledge or did I feel or sense something out of the ordinary yes and no by no way shape or form that I envisioned that there was a bounty now keep in mind every defensive coordinator within the realms of legality would love to
Starting point is 00:59:20 get the starting quarterback out but but but in saying that you know not purposely going after his leg or you know a clean hit we take the quarterback out we got a much better chance to win I mean doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that that that makes sense so with Greg Williams I mean I've I've known Greg a long time known his defensive philosophy and he's a blitz guy yep he's the he's a no rhyme or reason coach what I mean by that is most 99.9 of the coordinators in the league whether they'd be offense or defense they have tendencies and that's what you study weekend and week out so third and three to six is broken down into its own category and coaches have their tendency they have 33 blitz on that they play versus a three receiver side
Starting point is 01:00:21 they may play a certain zone so you you know you play the odds with Greg Williams there is no odds and that makes it difficult in itself to prepare because there's no rhyme or reason why you do you know if you if you blitz this guy then they have to play this coverage behind it that's not the case with Greg right he'll roll the dice and so that makes it much more difficult to prepare so I wasn't really surprised at the the looks that I was getting what I was surprised and I'll give you an example Darren Sharper who was a friend of mine and a teammate for about seven years in Green Bay I thought it was an extremely talented safety he could cover the field like no other but he wasn't a hitter he he was a good tackler but he wasn't a big hitter like Ronnie Locke
Starting point is 01:01:11 well in that game against us in that championship game he had two one they called the one they didn't call that was actually worse unsportsmanlike on the quarterback where he went after my head with his helmet crown of his helmet and it was way late I'd thrown the ball already and I thought to myself now why would Sharper who's not that type of player go over and beyond when he didn't need to and I actually completed both passes and it was two of the better passes I had in the game it was that type of game it was it was I think they called like five rough in the quarterback but they should have called like 12 yeah that's a strategy in itself it's like make them call it every time because they're not so we're going to get away
Starting point is 01:02:00 with some of the times that we do it I don't hate Greg Leames it is what it is we've still had a chance to win the game with all that in mind and when I think about that game I not for a second but I think about how they played against me it's more what I didn't do at the end of the game Greg Leames included the defense included I still had a chance to make a play to give us a chance to win and I didn't make it that's what that's what I think about that game so you talk about defense and a defensive scheme I think you know the part that everyone loved about Brett Farve the player was that there was a feeling that you were improvising a lot of the times drawing stuff up in the huddle how much of that was true because I know the classic story where you asked
Starting point is 01:02:46 you didn't know what a nickel defense was until your second year so how much of it was really Brett Farve just being like all right you run this route you run that route let's just go a very little in regards to drawing one up in the dirt from an initial play now breaking the pocket scrambling around extending plays hitting the guy like one of the greatest passes I've ever had if not the the greatest or maybe fondest was my first playoff experience at Detroit with the week before we played in Detroit the end of season the winter that game got to play we were playing them in the playoffs the first round regardless we knew that had we lost we had to come right back the following week into the same environment and there was no reason to think
Starting point is 01:03:35 if we lost that we could come back and play much better the following week in Detroit and win late in the game it was a two-minute drill and I called double square out I had Sterling on the right and I'm not even sure who I had on the left and I ended up scrambling to my left I think kind of knowing your limitations with at that time I didn't think I had any you know kind of a naive sense at that age and just Sterling had a square out he didn't have a go and I extended the play and the one thing the coaches always preach to young quarterbacks is don't throw a leg down the middle don't throw it across your body across the field and that's what I did and hit Sterling for touchdown so that was the ad lib from an extended play so you made headlines a couple
Starting point is 01:04:32 weeks ago talking about Deshaun Watson I wanted to ask a follow-up to that so do you think that it was like maybe a little hypocritical asking about Deshaun or saying Deshaun Watson should kind of just play with the Texans right now not demand a trade when you you had similar points in your career where you wanted the organization to do something whether it be you know let you go wherever you wanted when you were done with the Packers or maybe not get the training camp do you think that like players should should maybe get a little more say in today's NFL on on player movement if they have been lied to by the organization and they feel like it's you know a relationship that can't be fixed yeah well I'll say this I think it's a different the league looks different today
Starting point is 01:05:18 how they play is different how they practice is different the legality you know how many times can you practice in pads I mean when I was with Atlanta my first year we never went without pads yeah and I was a backup quarterback any backup for backs today are not live in practice I mean that's a joke to even think that I was live but Jerry Glanville wanted them to kill me so it's a different it's a different game you know my situation regardless of what people may think I didn't demand a trade I didn't demand where I went wrong in the only place I went wrong was retiring or saying I was retiring in April but there's reasons for that when I decided I wanted to play again I would I want to play anywhere else other than the fact that I knew that I wasn't
Starting point is 01:06:13 welcome back in Green Bay not not not by the fans and some teammates but by the organization so from that aspect it's a little bit different but I don't think a player should be able to demand who they want interviewed or what players they want to pick up or let go you know I think that crosses the line I mean you think about it with you guys you go you've been a team for you know let's just say 10 years and one's thinking about leaving and the one who's staying says well I want this guy to come in and the ball says I'm going to interview go I want to interview and if you don't like it you can hit the road I think that guys in the league make tons of money I'm not saying that this right or wrong it is what it is in 20 years from now we're
Starting point is 01:07:09 going to be laughing at the salaries that I made and the guys before me made and it's going to be astronomical just like it is now but it's going to continue to go up that's that's that's a given but I just don't think that it's right for a player to be upset and demand to trade because they didn't interview someone he wanted to interview so I think it goes a little bit deeper than that with the Texans organization in particular where obviously to Sean Watson as a top I think he's a top five quarterback in the EFL right now he's a generational talent he's definitely a top five with the with the young which there's some very talented young young quarterback and he's right there in the in the mix yeah so I think with a guy like that if he is the the centerpiece
Starting point is 01:07:56 of your organization and the front office told him like we want to make you a building block of this team we want to get your feedback on things we want to build this new franchise around you guys are transitioning from Bill O'Brien we're bringing in an entire new front office new head coach we want your input on that and then he gave his input and then they ignored his input and then things kind of came to like a I don't know all the details that happened after that there apparently it's been building for like the last three or four years I feel like in today's EFL if you have a talent like that and you're an owner you should know that you need to make that player happy if you want to maximize your chances of that guy winning a Super Bowl for your team in
Starting point is 01:08:38 the long run because if it's an icy relationship that goes both ways the ownership has to take some responsibility for that too so I'm sure you experienced you probably butted heads with ownership in your career as well and you probably found that the most the most conducive environment for winning football would be when your star player and your ownership and your head coach are all at least on the same page and and kind of communicating effectively whether it's an idea that you have for an offense or hey maybe we should interview this guy well let me go back to what you just mentioned about Deshaun Watson when I made those comments also said I don't know all the details I don't think anybody does and honestly in fairness to Deshaun or anyone in
Starting point is 01:09:26 that situation it's probably best that I didn't make the comments I made I made them specifically based on the fact that again not knowing the you know the details which I think obviously is very important so I'm wrong in respects to making comments without knowing the facts but if the organization because what I was going to say before you you made those comments if they ask his advice it's a different story then you're including him in a conversation whether or not you maybe maybe the organization asked his advice just to make him think that he's he's involved fair or not uh that that's their choosing but if they say you know if Deshaun went to them they never went to to him in particular and he says look why don't you
Starting point is 01:10:29 interview this guy or that guy and and they say we appreciate you you know your advice but we're you know we got this handle that's their right but if they ask his advice and or ask him to be involved in any shape or form and and then ignore him then I can see where there's a problem you know is that enough of a problem to demand to trade I don't you know that never happened to me I got a lot of feedback when JJ Watt asked for his release I think why don't I comment on that well JJ's situation is different Deshaun as you said had become the face in the franchise leader JJ Watt was kind of the the the elder statesman not that he's not a leader because I think he certainly was but I think both sides have run their course there I think we all can agree with that
Starting point is 01:11:28 um and he wanted to try his hand somewhere else and I think that they were willing to do that and they mutually parted um Deshaun's situation he is the face of that franchise I agree I think he's one of the great young portbacks in the league and there's no reason to think that he won't you know shadow records and and won a championship if not more than one whether it be there or somewhere else I just it you know my my whole deal is it if you demand to trade because they didn't listen to your input when they didn't ask for it I don't want to say that that's wrong right but again in today's game it's different you know who's to say what's right or wrong but I don't know the facts so it's it's really unfair for me to just say one way or the other
Starting point is 01:12:21 don't you think though that the players having more say and and fans actually taking players sides is a good thing for uh you know like it feels like the transformation in the league right so for example a Javon Walker situation where you know Javon wanted to sit out and and you had comments on that back when it happened he came back he tore his ACL now guys when they say they want to sit out I think most fans are like yeah they should if they don't get the money they deserve they should sit out because they're risking a very short career a very short earning potential for uh non-guaranteed money so I think that the conversation is interesting and it's also just it's good that we're here where people actually are like hey Deshawn kind of can call his shots
Starting point is 01:13:07 well I mean they both hold the cards right you know you take it even further uh he says he's not playing there they say they're not budging how will that play itself out remains to be seen but say that he's training uh I know like in my situation uh begin with the Packers and I bring this up because it could happen to Shawn you never know but I had to go to Green Bay in order to get something accomplished to start a training camp that year that I was traded to the Jets so I went up me and my wife and my agent and I met with Mike McCarthy and Ted Thompson it was an okay meeting I went back to my house in Green Bay that same day that I arrived and told uh bus my agent and my wife would have transpired and according to the Packers then
Starting point is 01:14:10 I was there was two teams that were interested in a trade were there more I don't know this was what I was told and that was the Jets and the Buccaneers you know you choose so I when when I left Green Bay we flew back home that same evening I had bus tell the management with the Packers that I was going to go to the Buccaneers and the reason that I chose the Buccaneers was Gruden I knew very well he was we were together in Green Bay initially and the offense was the same so I didn't have to learn a new offense and also which was important to me we were going to stay in the same conference I learned to compete against the Packers in the same division or conference and they played each other I think it was the third
Starting point is 01:15:04 or fourth game that year so it made sense I said we're going to fly home bus told them that said we're going to fly home we're going to talk about on the way home but that's where he's he's looking to go by the time we flew home I got to my house I was traded to the Jets I could have vetoed it bus said you know what if you veto it and say you're not going there people are going to say well what wouldn't the heck does he want to do so they kind of beat me to the punch they tighten their grip on me in other words you know so I mean that ultimately could happen to the shot that he ends up in a team that he doesn't want to end up with I wish him well I think he's a great young talent and we'll see how it plays out yeah so during those
Starting point is 01:15:51 years that your career was a little bit influxed in the the various off seasons my favorite part was the uh the relationship that you developed from afar with edwarder where they would just send ed down to your house have him camp out at the end of your road I never knew if it was like an adversarial relationship between you and ed or if it was like a worthy opponent where you know maybe bring him lemonade if it was too hot when he's standing out there at the end of the driveway or if you guys were good friends but it seemed like three summers in a row edwarder lived at your house yeah let me get this clear I did not invite ed down uh we we sort of grew because of year in year out sagas that went on for several years we've all had those relationships where you go I don't
Starting point is 01:16:38 know how it happened but we became friends and um we had a lot to talk about most of it was sort of the same topic over and over again but yeah every time I think you turn the sprinklers on on me you know he would accuse me I said no they're on a timer here yeah they're on a timer I mean you just happen to be standing in my grass when they came on still to this day we have a chuckle about it believe me I could have done without it was hard enough to make a decision when I had to find it a different way out of my my property to avoid the press yeah what was your favorite prank that you pulled on a teammate or your go to because I think that's you know part of the brett farve legend is that you were a guy who didn't take himself too seriously and always had
Starting point is 01:17:24 fun playing the game uh which I think most people most fans do appreciate that you know you're playing a game and it's fun so what was your go to prank or the one that you you look back you're like yeah that was a good one like I'm proud of myself for that one or there was a bunch and I'm probably leaving out probably a better one I think being in green bay and we think green bay think cold you know green bay didn't get a lot of snow but during the season we we got not during the game but one week we got a lot of snow but then right after we got bitter cold where like the high was like negative one you know like on a Thursday you know and we we would practice indoors those but the thing about green bay is lambo field the locker rooms that you dress in for games you also
Starting point is 01:18:11 dress for practice some some teams are different they have a workout facility separate they had a fenced in parking lot right there by the locker room no problem but for practice you had to go down to what's where the practice fields and the Hudson Center which is the indoor facility or located it's at the end of the parking lot one below it's definitely too cold to walk you know it's probably a little more than a quarter of a mile from where you park generally to where and they had a parking area for the Hudson Center Frank Winters was by a center and best friend and roommate and we'd always goof off and everybody was playing jokes on each other but I took Frank's car before practice started so like I had a meeting
Starting point is 01:19:01 say nine o'clock and when I got a break I had someone the equipment guys following I took Frank's car down to the end of the parking lot left it running with the AC wide open in one degree high temperatures and uh and this we didn't go to practice until like 1250 I think practice started at one so you can imagine when he found the car first call when he found it because he's like where's my car and but you know there was this one long car down running I don't even want to know what the temperature was in that car and we did that several times with different guys you know the guys started locking their car and they gave it fit but we'd dig in their pockets and you know the old cold car yeah yeah I like that one I like that one I also read
Starting point is 01:19:52 one where you you uh I don't know if it was a stink bomb or something with John Madden when you when he came to interview you before a game and like yeah almost almost killed him yeah Brett Farve and John Madden and fake farts is kind of like that's the pinnacle of football guy humor yeah I just told that story to someone a couple of nights ago we'd got on the subject of John Madden they asked me if he was still living and I said yes he is it's getting up there in age and they said boy you sure like you he did I don't know where the fondness came from he did a lot of my games but I know that our production meetings the day before the game was always it was fun it was it hardly had football at all involved in the conversation we just talked about stuff
Starting point is 01:20:39 tons of those meetings you can imagine all the games we did yeah there's one particular time I kind of just one particular year I kind of got on the stink bomb you know it kind of looks like an ammonia cap yep that you that you break and and it's got a terrible odor of rotten eggs and and it's made of sulfur and I found all this out after the fact I just knew they stunk and I thought it'd be a cool joke but just slip it under the table step on it and then watch everyone kind of cringe and part of the reason that I picked that in setting was Lee Remel was our head of PR well Lee Remel had been with the Packers for over 50 years and at the time was probably in his 70s so he was getting up in age still sharp but he had a tendency in those production meetings to
Starting point is 01:21:28 fall asleep so I was going to really kind of play a joke on Lee but with the whole group so I was I figured when I busted the ammonia cap and the odor got terrible that someone would think that Lee farted into sleep and that may have been true had it not been for John Madness as I ease it under the table step on it no one has a clue within seconds I mean it reaped of just rotten eggs and but John Madden was not the reaction I was thinking and Jeff Blum and Mark Schiefelbein when they're with us they were the younger PR guy same age as me and they encouraged me not to do it before I went in just just I don't know exactly why but because none of us could foresee what was going to happen so John starts kind of choking a little bit and he starts turning red now you can
Starting point is 01:22:28 sense with each second it's getting worse and worse until point where this is not funny anymore and he kind of puts his hand up around his chest and his throat long story short they take him out of the room come to find out he's allergic to sulfur you almost killed John Madden but he almost killed John Madden he probably laughed about that afterwards I was gonna say so every game after that when we're walking in production he's like oh you know I have no no no it was sulfur bomb see no John I don't I'm sorry who's allergic to sulfur that's something you could not you couldn't have drawn that up ahead of time there's no way to know that no no no so I did listen to your podcast and I know that you're a Jeopardy fan I know you watch Jeopardy are you going to watch
Starting point is 01:23:19 when Aaron Rodgers hosted if I'm not busy I'll at least take but I think you'll do a great job you know he's he's very well spoken and calm cool and collective he'll do a wonderful job now will he be an alex rebeck I don't know if there ever will be another alex rebeck but it he'll I'm sure that they'll get great ratings for that show yeah so back to your time in in Green Bay you played for Mike McCarthy for a little bit uh he became to let he became a legend on this show last year when he went to Dallas and he would smash watermelons before select games to amp his team up he would just like have a watermelon brought in like Gallagher remember Gallagher yeah exactly yeah the Gallagher I lost every bet when Mike McCarthy smashed to water people don't talk about Gallagher enough
Starting point is 01:24:05 anymore I'm glad you remember that but did Mike ever do anything like that what was his like craziest motivational technique when you were with him in Green Bay he was just a status quo coach and I don't mean that in the negative he's from Pittsburgh he's kind of you know those guys from Pittsburgh you if you didn't know any better you'd think they're from New York you know hey hey you know kind of loud boisterous that was Mike McCarthy you know you get ready to go out and fight a heavyweight bout he was giving that speech before you went out there uh but he never never brought in props that I remember would he send you would he uh have you guys stay at worse hotels if you started sucking because I think I've heard that story that the hotels would
Starting point is 01:24:49 get worse and worse on the road I think John Coon told us that yeah they would get worse and worse on the road depending on how the team was doing no that never happened with any coach with with uh in my 20 years now okay we're gonna delete that part because we want to have John Coon's story be real also because he was putting Brett Favre up in the good hotels yeah meanwhile the fullbacks were staying down the street and I don't know where the teams stayed I just know where I stay yeah right you know where they were right what was your favorite Annie Reed story Annie Reed is obviously a legend uh and he was you know one of your coaches it was it actually let me let me ask this did you know at the time in the 90s when you looked at the coaching staff you're like man
Starting point is 01:25:28 these guys are really really good and there's gonna be some head coaches here because it is crazy to look back and be like you know Andy Reed John Gruden uh Mariucci Dick Geron was on the staff when you're like all those guys end up being head coaches Doug Peterson Doug Peterson yeah like was a quarterback did you have that moment where you were like whoa this is kind of crazy like I think that we have such a great coaching staff here I think uh five guys off of that staff whether it be initial staff or a replacement for one who left her head coach got five of those guys became head coaches you mentioned Dick Tron head coach at Chicago unfortunately yeah Moog Marty Morningwig Ray Rhodes and other coaches went on to be successful as well but no I think
Starting point is 01:26:20 you know when when you're 22 even though I thought I knew it all then as I look back you don't think about things like that you would think about how you would think about later in your career or life I knew we had good coaches I didn't know a good team from a bad team when I became the starter in Green Bay I thought I did for me my success early was not because I was schooled and was up to speed you know on all the ins and outs of passing games and nickels and dimes defenses and all that stuff the secret to my success early was being naive and not knowing how good or how bad the opponent was not knowing how good or how bad we were or not knowing that maybe being risky on the play and rolling to my left and throwing all the way back to the right
Starting point is 01:27:11 can get you fired I just thought that was fun yeah it actually reminds me a lot of one of our favorite quarterbacks on this show James Winston he's a guy he takes a lot of chances he makes some head scratching throws but he also he has the ability to throw a touchdown from almost anywhere on the field and he's exciting to watch have you have you gotten the chance to watch him play and does any of his play remind him of yourself well I saw us one play this year it was it was pretty good yeah you know it was a touchdown perfect rating you know I haven't seen a lot of him I probably saw more of him when I think about James Winston I think about college and and he was a winner you know he's not going to scramble like Lamar Jackson but he's got a wonderful arm when you
Starting point is 01:27:56 have something like that it's like unbelievable jumping ability but maybe an okay shooter you're going to have fantastic dunks that's going to put you on ESPN all the time but at the end the tell tell stats are a little bit different than the dunks and that's kind of way I look with James Winston if he can have a harness that and I was able to harness it pretty good based on how I first entered the league everything to me was a hell Mary and it didn't it didn't need to be you know the check down's okay Brett in fact please throw the check now if it was third and 20 my first three four years I was throwing a 20 or 21 if not further yeah every time it's interesting because I actually I'm happy you said that because I do think there is I always joke about the quarterbacks that are
Starting point is 01:28:44 uh they're they don't really understand that they should what they're doing is wrong those are the dangerous quarterbacks so like it sounds like that's what you're saying when you're younger I also always have the theory that not every interception is bad in that a guy who you know when you say gunslinger you think Brett Favre and a quarterback taking risks isn't always a bad thing it's the guys who you know when you look at the end of the year and a guy has no interceptions like well he didn't take any risks he was all check downs he never actually took a shot and that's easier to defend than a guy who's going to take those risks and try to throw it into spots where maybe sometimes he shouldn't have thrown that well I'll give you an example we played the Rams in the playoffs
Starting point is 01:29:25 in St. Louis and I think that year we were like maybe eight and eight as Mike Sherman was the head coach we may have been nine and seven we could possibly have been ten ten and six but I don't think so so we were okay we were playing the greatest show on turf and they were and I mean they were putting up 40 on everybody and there's no reason to think that we're they're not going to put up 40 on us and so the game sort of went like I thought it was they got the ball they scored we got the ball we moved it punt they got the ball they scored so you get you catch on here so at some point I went they'll give me the underneath stuff all day long but we're gonna lose even if I take chances and come out on top you know on risky throws we still might lose the game I wasn't the
Starting point is 01:30:15 smartest guy from from starting my career to the end of my career career by no means but I was smart enough to know if I don't take chances I may complete 60 passes but we're going to lose by 30 so I started taking chances and they were up the whole game their go-to was Tampa 2 rush with 4 not giving any windows throw it in going against that type of scheme you have to be patient you have to be willing to go 16 plays and grind it out to get a score you know going 16 plays and score this hard enough so I ended up throwing six picks in the game and really the last one but the last two they were up like 21 the game was over my chairman said hey man I think I'm gonna take you out I mean he wasn't pulling me to put someone in to win the game it was over right and
Starting point is 01:31:09 I said to him just as clear and honest as possible I said if you leave me in I can break a record oh really six picks I think we'll tie the pack the record or NFL and I don't know if that was true but it sounded pretty cool to me like if I got six you know I fall into record books one way or another what's the difference between five and six yeah six sounds a lot cooler it sounds and the last pick actually I said you know what I'm just gonna take it I'm gonna check it down and I had a back who's running like a little angle out of the middle of the field and I just he was gonna catch it and get about 12 maybe break a tackle and get a few more yards 50 seconds left in the game or something and it gets tipped by one of the linemen who doesn't rush and guess what
Starting point is 01:32:00 picked I'm like hell even when I do the right thing do you have a favorite interception that you ever threw there's no question my favorite interception and I can't believe I'm to call it my favorite but a lot of things happens on it happened on this play kind of like my first completion was to myself yep so I can say that I had a lot of fun playing and it doesn't necessarily have to be wins and touchdowns so we're playing the Giants my first year as a starter in Green Bay we're playing them in the meadowlands they still have several of their guys from the glory days Lawrence Taylor Pepper Johnson but they were you know they were getting up in the years but it was a back and forth game late in game it's pretty chilly at meadowlands but not terribly cold
Starting point is 01:32:50 so we run that an angle route like I was just the one I was just telling you about we called it Texas 22 Texas and so the fullback comes in and we had a little change up on this place so we added 22 Texas halfback burst so I was gonna pump fake the fullback and the backside back kind of did the same route but came underneath and so we're trying to get the backers to converge on the first guy and slip the other guy underneath it usually was a good play well Pepper Johnson looked as though he was covering the first guy and then fell off of the last second I probably should have known better with an old crafty vet but it wasn't like the worst decision I ever made and it hits him right in the numbers so I'm young energetic full piss and vinegar at this time of my career
Starting point is 01:33:43 he picks it off and he's kind of maneuvering around and I'm kind of like the first and last line of defense because it wasn't a deep pass and so he's dodging and weaving a couple alignment and I get right close to him to make the tackle and he kind of turns and looks to his right and I think he's going to pitch it to one of his guys so I jump dive for the ball and he doesn't pitch it so I look like a complete idiot like what are you doing when I realize he doesn't pitch it I can remember even though it was a long time ago I was thinking myself you're digging yourself in a deeper hole so I get up come up from behind catching punch the ball out create a fumble and recover it all at the same time I'm willing to bet the farm that I am the only person to
Starting point is 01:34:36 throw an intersection miss a tackle cause a fumble and recover it all in the same way we'll look into that that's a full day can you look that up that's like the Jimmy V speech if you can laugh cry yeah you did it all the same day you did it all yeah but the tragic news is the very next play I throw a pick the guy returns it for touchdown I'm actually watching it right now it's a hilarious play because he's like spinning around and you just got totally deaked out and then you come back and get the fumble so you're like that is that would be my favorite interception too because it is a hilarious hilarious play so the next play I thought pick the guy and I have a chance to make the tackle on the sidelines the guy returns it jukes me this Ty Deppler was was my backup
Starting point is 01:35:22 quarterback and great friend and it was funny he was so funny I'll make I missed the tackle on the sidelines the guy scores the games over I go sit down on the bench and it was probably 30 32 degrees then that day and I'm sitting on the bench got my helmet on so Ty's laughing at me sitting right next to me he's laughing and I thought it was kind of an odd time to be laughing but that was Ty I said what's so funny he says that big snot that's frozen down the side of your face that came out of my nose and it frozen solid on the side of my face that's gee thanks Ty yeah that's a nice insult injury all right so my last question can you actually tell the Ty Deppler uh nickel uh defense story that would be my last question I just it's such a true story it's a great story yeah Ty typical
Starting point is 01:36:10 Ty fashion you know he's sarcastic very bright mind football he had football intelligence out this world keep in mind he won the Heisman he threw 120 touchdowns in college he knew the passing offense better than anyone and here I am the starter but don't know anything but acting like I know it all you know I hear him say in meetings all the time well he bringing nickel in dying in and I thought to myself I don't I couldn't see what the difference was really so that's why I really never asked and it didn't bother me a whole lot but I just ate at me and ate at me just till finally I said I gotta ask so I said Ty you know I hear him talk about bringing nickel in and dying and all that stuff I mean what is it I mean what am I not getting me goes
Starting point is 01:36:57 was when they take out a linebacker bringing a DB and I said that's it that's they're making a big deal about nickels in nickels in nickels in he said that's it I got who gives a damn no wonder I had success against nickel defense so what did what did you think it was called did you have a name for were you just like to bring the small guy out there I didn't care it's 11 on 11 yeah you know and I found throughout my career and even even before then in college don't judge a book by its cover so so what if they're bringing taking a 250 pound linebacker out bringing in 190 pound defensive back he may be a better tackler than 250 pound go I never cared there were some things in meetings that I didn't pay attention to and that was one I love it all right so my last
Starting point is 01:37:48 question is the row back question use code PMT on rowback.com for 20% off your first purchase RHOBACK.com and for our guest today we'd like to give you a row back performance cue zip on us so we're going to send you one uh do you think that it's maybe a little much at this point like the Packers having back-to-back MVP uh and Hall of Fame quarterbacks can you give us a break are you are you like I'm done with it I I hated you your entire career like Rogers is the same shit do you think maybe it's time to to stop and let's have like a shitty quarterback go to Green Bay I think that you guys need to do all you can to lure Aaron to come play with you guys you said you said before when we were about to start and you're like you know it's less about the Packers more about the bears
Starting point is 01:38:38 and it's true like it's the bears getting in their own way consistently throughout the years now I'll say this as we speak I think there's there's an outside chance that Russell Wilson could go there yeah yeah it's a team that would be that would be a huge pickup yeah I don't know what would happen I don't know if they would they would be willing to let him go I could see like a three team that would change the dynamics big time hey would he be the best quarterback in in Chicago Bear history instant I don't know big man was pretty good so was Sid Luckman right yeah Sid Luckman has all the records in Cutler Cutler was a bus cook guy as well yeah um you know the bears their best teams when you think about it they had unbelievable running game and stellar defense yep yep big man
Starting point is 01:39:27 was you know statistically speaking wasn't he was the the grout if you will he he held everybody together wasn't you know wowling with you statistically but he was jumping over guys he was getting he was running I mean he was in the trenches and I'm not saying that you need to get a guy like that you got to get a winner it just has to fall in place yeah and when it happens it happens and you'll know it yeah yeah and that's kind of your career I mean getting traded to Green Bay after drafts by the bulk of it so it may that may be what it is with the bears yeah we need a who would have thought guy that's I would mention next year yes yes well Brett thank you everyone go listen to Bowling with uh Farve uh it is on podcast one you can find it we appreciate you
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Starting point is 01:42:29 fuck it I don't care no it's fifth year fifth year bump fuck it I do not care whatever I mean it's has he said it's an open competition I'd rather him than nick falls listen I'll say that much no right now that is guaranteed this office I always love it when really shitty teams say that like no one's got a spot we're all playing for an open spot well yeah you should you went to in 14 last year yep all right so we have a couple segments first up we have King State Kings Dan Campbell when talking about who makes the final decisions here is GM he says a true alpha knows when it's time to concede yes that's the greatest quote of all time because he's he's just admitting that he might concede but you're really conceding yeah because you're accepting the concession yeah
Starting point is 01:43:14 if you accept the concession then you're abated then you took an order from the guy being like you will I'm going to alpha you without you knowing it it's sun sushi this is art of war which I actually believe that we should read art of war on this podcast art of the deal I've already read art of war is it's an all-time book for people that want to sound like they're smart this is actually it is Sun Tzu stuff this is a Sun Tzu quote you ready for this bell check yeah exactly he says all warfare is based on deception hence when we are able to attack we must seem unable when using our forces we must appear inactive and when we are near we must make the enemy believe we are far away in other words he's saying let them think that they're winning yep so it's the most alpha thing ever
Starting point is 01:43:55 to make you know he might even be going a step further he might even be doing this to make his GM think that he's the alpha but meanwhile dang Campbell knows like exactly like the alpha is actually on this side of the table I want him to think that he's stronger well that parts out the window because he said it out loud that's true he did say I'm a true alpha because I'm letting him make the decisions but it's still a great quote he is saying if you need to know a prospect's hand size go talk to the GM if you want to know how his kneecap tastes talk to me all right my I also had to save metrics before we get to uh guys on chicks uh did you see this Jake Natoats who actually look at this synergy is going to be on bench mob yes have you already taped it tomorrow
Starting point is 01:44:36 Wednesday so they don't think it's anything so they so I I just saw an article a minute ago about the point yeah the point so so you'll like this pft in the Alabama practice facility they have four different lines it's one point is for a mid-range long two two points for anything at the rim three points for a college three and four points for a Steph slash Damian Lillard kind of area okay I so he's basically teaching them or getting it out of them to stop shooting mid-range yeah the only thing I don't like about that is I love saying the lost art of the mid-range jumper like that's something that kids need to be practicing but it's actually not and they're right in terms of setting it up this way I'd like to see three points for two-handed layup
Starting point is 01:45:21 or how Larry bird used to do it I think Larry bird set up a scoring thing when he used to practice being like um like a basket is worth one point and assist is worth a point too so if you get like a clean assist with no dribbles then that's worth more than somebody creating it on their own he also had this quote modern basketball you're not catching a ball and putting it on your hip and staring at the defense for five seconds before you do anything that's not how basketball is played anymore but I'm sure dad uncle grandpa professional skills trainer you're going to do all this mid-range triple threat all this old-fashioned garbage I love it mm-hmm triple threat though is still that still counts and beef balance elbow follow through yeah if you see Matt
Starting point is 01:45:59 norlander of CBS tweeted it reflects in the game look at their shot chart zero mid-range jumpers either layups or three and and and Nato's a great coach I mean it came from Buffalo he's uh unbelievable like Alabama as good as they are offensively they're actually very good defensively which I think that's the weird part because you think of a fast-paced team doesn't play defense and he's kind of proving that that's not the case he's uh he's a football guy isn't he Nato's I think we had him on football guy the week at some point we might have he also has really nice he was a math teacher high school math teacher here we go six years I like this I want to see he also wears great jackets I'm gonna ask him to uh pick his favorite algebra geometry statistics he taught all three
Starting point is 01:46:40 little pro tip say fuck mary kill I was three but that's not what I do yeah Jake can't play f u c k mary kill it's harder to say yeah yeah I would like to see a coach take it one step further and have you know they've got the gps trackers on the players in practice anyways to see how far they run how fast they run all these advanced statistics put like a little electro shock in there when they take a mid-range jumper just you know 200 volts of electricity to the spinal column just pull him out of the game I'm sure he does he'll bow ryan bow ryan's I watch bow ryan pull guys out of a game 10 seconds into it I I love that that's a little old school new school coaching either way I I do I like Nato's he's yeah he's he's like fun he's different right and he put like Alabama plays a
Starting point is 01:47:24 fun style a basketball I root I do not root for Alabama right because I think it's unfair if they're really good at basketball too yeah that's something you can't have yeah you can't you can't win both it's the final four it's like Florida right yeah yeah 0607 gators on back to back and t-bows on campus we've talked about everyone on campus so it's like you can't win it you gotta you can't just throw that away yeah um and Riley Cooper and Riley Cooper really and the bouncy brothers uh-huh ounces a lot of people a guy who's interviewed did not release billzy who Danny B ah oh he was there and probably thinks that he was the alpha of all yeah no he is he probably tells stories like yeah I tried out for the team but you know
Starting point is 01:48:10 they I was too good I was too fast I was too dangerous I was like Sean Merriman where they wouldn't let me practice handsome um all right guys don't check what I beat the shit out of him in a rough rowdy who Dan Bilzerian yeah yeah make you sign a rave waiver and then starting to sue you so you can never release it he's he's tall maybe short oh he's like exactly my size so yeah he's exactly short he's short hi PMT my boyfriend always walks around his hands in his pants doesn't matter what time of day it is or what type of conversation we are having but he claims that he likes to keep his hand warm and cozy do all men do this or is my boyfriend a weirdo that's a cool look I do it well yeah it's if you're especially if you're wearing sweatpants it's I don't do it when
Starting point is 01:48:51 I'm wearing jeans but if you're wearing sweatpants it's almost in pie it's almost like a magnet where your hands just end up in your pants the other week I was standing in jeans and I caught myself I had my my four fingers in both front pockets and then I had my two thumbs in my belt loop I looked down I was like this is too much your cowboy it's yeah it's too much well thank you it's too much accessories going on my fingers right now but yeah if it's if it's something that's less formal yeah put a hand down your pants not a big deal I feel like this person has to be European so I'll read it in a British accent I recently started dating a guy and whenever we go out drinking he has an ego problem where he will pay the clubs to pee on the floor or to pee
Starting point is 01:49:29 someone's on someone's shoes I don't think he remembers he's such an arse in the morning and to be fair he's paying thousands of dollars to do it is this a red flag I love that accent because it is it's you said it was a European accent and it was literally a combination of like British Polish Italian and Russian all in one bilingual not a big deal if so if this is real I'm in for it just because I'm assuming that this guy is rich if he's paying thousands of dollars for it and I also make the assumption that super super rich people they just get bored with regular life so they need new challenges and a new challenge is how many floors can I piss on and they also think that money can actually take care of anything that they do wrong right and the
Starting point is 01:50:13 ultimate test of that is can I can I go into this place and then use the bathroom where turn the entire club into the bathroom for the right price and that's true that ultimately the goal of getting rich is to do whatever you want wherever you want all the time yes sup brothers I recently put in my hinge profile that I'm looking for a fellow awl and so far it has not helped me find demands what can I be doing better to attract awls to match with me can we have some sort of secret code to put in our dating app profiles so I can stop answering the question what is an awl hmm what would the code be for a lady to say that they were I mean just be the sup always works I think I think just wearing our merch just buy all of our merch right that that that would be the best
Starting point is 01:50:59 way to do it if you are uh men and women we actually have a bunch of new shirts out buy all of our merch and people will be like oh my god that's cool what's that or just put we don't say that anymore yeah but really buy all the merch all the merch merch helps yeah yeah we have uh st patrick's day merch we have march madness merch we have a uh torture chamber shirt we got a bunch of merch I predict that if you wear if you wear uh women's part of my take clothes just out on the town you won't even need a hinge profile no you'll get you'll get hit on by the sweetest dudes will be swimming in cock just think of a guy like billy hitting on you at every bar that's what's gonna happen you're welcome speaking billy does billy get paid for his job
Starting point is 01:51:43 and is he a communist not anymore billy doesn't get paid for his job anymore since he negotiated his way out of it yeah no billy gets paid uh you were getting paid when you were first intern right we all yeah yeah we gave you some cash under the table we always I got paid under the table you guys I didn't very well taken care of I have no complaints you you hit us up people forget that a year ago when this all started and we you came back into our lives you did one appearance on part of my take and then Texas was like hey guys do you think you could help me out real quick with the little money and I don't even think you said thank you I think I said you 500 bucks you bought a ps5 with it yeah I used to make content shame on me be nice to billy wait wait wait wait what
Starting point is 01:52:25 content did you make out of it uh the UFC fight night yeah that's true good point billy good job point five hundred dollars well spent be nice to billy week thank you no I'm very well taken care of and you really like you have a job that you can't get fired from that's what people trust me once once I'm graduate I graduate and move in the city billy has been promising us he's been promising us like this new and improved billy the minute he graduates you realize that you've now written yourself so many checks you have to cash oh yeah I'm gonna cash him so hard okay cool to be fist to fist or to be fisted that is the question uh pass to fist I think only fisting in the face oh and it's gotta be hosay exactly billy didn't actually hit him in the face
Starting point is 01:53:13 he just I did laid down if you're gonna if you're gonna fist somebody you have to be willing to kill him you have to have that mentality like I'm gonna I'm getting to fight yeah this is a chick asking for murder mode I know I'm just answering I'm answering for billy no I I say um I mean I think it's a pretty obvious question right like you want to be the one that's doing the fist you'd rather be the hammer than the nail you got to put yourself in a chicks chicks mind the guys on chicks can't do it too much of an alpha actually getting fisted is the most alpha thing ever because you're letting them think that they're the alpha literally they know that you gave them permission to fist you yeah all right speaking of fisting this will be the last question hi small
Starting point is 01:53:53 cat and pft me and my husband set the weekend at my husband's parents home the guys went out drinking and left me and the other ladies alone at home my husband's sister is a lesbian and is always flirting with me and complimenting me about my body I never took it seriously until she got drunk and she tried making out with me I resisted at first but I always wanted to be with a woman and gave in it was great but I felt bad about cheating on my husband with his sister should I tell my husband or just pretend nothing happened also his sister is engaged to another woman and she told me not to tell anyone this is this is just the start of every porno that's on the front page of not real but accidentally made out with my sister in law if it were real don't tell anyone it seems
Starting point is 01:54:34 like you shouldn't seems like there'll be a lot of feelings hurt I also think that the word making out is doing a lot of work here I don't really know where that term came from maybe somebody can help me with that because like I made out with somebody is that it sounds like something that someone would say in the fifties like necking oh we I'm going steady with this girl and we made out pinder I never really understood what making out meant I guess that's just frenching you frenched your sister making out making out is a term of American origin dating back to at least 1949 is used for to kissing including extended french kissing or heavy kissing of the neck called necking or to acts of non-penetrative sex such as heavy petting dry humping there's also
Starting point is 01:55:17 how long should making out last four to ten minutes what that's a lot of making out yeah if you these are funny questions why these are these are questions for people who have never made out the uh why why does making out feel good along with the uh what I don't even know the dopamine that make you feel affection and euphoria kissing releases serotonin another feel good chemical how to practice making out is making out good for a relationship couples that are really good at making out together tend to have healthier relationships wow I like that really good at making out how does a guy feel after kissing a girl kissing improves the bombings this you don't even I had imagined like there's some poor like 13 year old is reading all these things
Starting point is 01:56:05 and then goes back to schools like well I felt really good because the serotonin was released in my brain okay dude you haven't made out yeah let's bring back makeouts make out sessions let's bring back hickeys and dry humping dry humping needs to be brought back you're a big dry humper dry oh love love a dry hump uh all right numbers and animal fact 35 8 22 89 a two ton bull elephant once stood its ground against a locomotive which he thought was threatening his family of elephants 58 is that 58 or 85 trying to save his family from the locomotive he derailed it though 58 oh the first time really are we ever gonna get it no I don't think so oh we are right Billy love you guys Billy bring back 69 no love you guys I love you guys love you guys
Starting point is 01:57:22 today's another day to find you shine away oh I'll be coming for your love okay shine away oh I'll be coming for your love okay take me take me oh I'll be gone me less to say I'm on sentence but I'm being stolen away it's only then but life is okay say after me
Starting point is 01:58:17 oh it's no better to be safe than sorry say after me oh it's no better to be safe than sorry take on me oh All the things that you say, yeah, is in a lot more Just to play my worries away You're all things I've got to remember Will you shine away? I'll be coming for you anyway
Starting point is 01:59:20 Take on me Take me on I'll be gone Forever still

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