Pardon My Take - Brooks Koepka, Dan Rapaport Live From The PGA Championship, Nuggets Win Game 1, NBA Lottery + Guys On Chicks
Episode Date: May 17, 2023Nuggets take Game 1 in what some are calling the greatest game ever. Jokic went off and the Lakers still almost stole one (00:00:00-00:13:15). We talk NBA Lottery and Victor Wembanyama going to the Sp...urs as well as Doc Rivers getting fired (00:13:15-00:31:36). Hot Seat/Cool Throne with Stetson Bennett not graduating and Martha Stewart being big time back (00:31:36-01:00:53). Brooks Koepka joins the show to talk PGA Championship, LIV, how much we missed him and possibly naming his future son Blake (01:00:53-01:23:55). Dan Rapaport joins us live from Rochester where the PGA Championship is being played to talk about the field this weekend, how the course looks, Charlie Woods and long shot bets (01:23:55-01:55:32). We finish with a review of Big George Foreman and Guys on Chicks (01:55:32-02:17:56).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake
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On today's part of my take, we have a two for for the people.
We have our good friend, a longtime friend, Brooks Kepka back on the pod
before the PGA championship.
We also have our colleague, Daniel Rappaport on the pod
to talk about the PGA championship, give us some bets.
Tell us how the course is looking.
We're going to talk Lakers, Nugs, Game One, phenomenal game.
The Victor Wimbanyama lottery has been decided.
Doc Rivers was fired, hot seat, cool drone.
Guys on chicks, a little movie review.
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Welcome to part of my take today is Wednesday, May 17th.
And Nicola Jokic is a fucking monster, monster, monster, monster.
Nuggets take game one.
What a game. PFT, Jokic, baby.
Jokic, Jokic is a beast.
And on Taco Tuesday, no less, snatched it right out of LeBron James.
It was the altitude one that came in the first quarter
at the end of the first quarter when the Nugs were up 12 points
before the Lakers got their second win.
They all they had to do was just kind of keep them at bay for a while.
And they I mean, credit to the Lakers because they played a pretty good game.
Both teams very good offensively played played really well.
The Nugs had like seven basks.
I think there were six or seven shots that went in,
which were like, no, no, no, no, no, yes, shots that had no business going in.
They got a lot of lucky shots from the outside.
But they also at the same time, they got lucky a lot,
but they also played really, really well.
And so there was no way that the Nuggets could afford to lose that game
after playing that well and getting so many good breaks.
That was a must win game after the first quarter.
It was a must win game because Jokic, I think with like
maybe nine minutes into the first quarter, he already had had his double double.
He ended up with a triple double, 34 points, 21 rebounds and 14 assists.
And so there's two ways to look at it.
One Nuggets up 1-0, played great.
Everyone was making shots.
KCP got caught fire for a while there.
Jamal Murray was was hot for a while there.
Like everything was clicking for the Nuggets.
Then the other side to look at is Anthony Davis just had the quietest
40 point night I think I've ever seen.
Like I was when I looked at the box score when it was like midway through the fourth
and he hit that three and I was like, wait, he's about to have 40
because it didn't feel like that because Jokic was that
Jokic was that dominant to start the game and the Nuggets had so much momentum.
And the fact that the Lakers had a chance to potentially tie it with
like 20 seconds left has to get you a little nervous if you're a Nuggets fan
because the Lakers were down 20 for stretches of this game.
And the they came all the way back.
They almost stole it makes me a little nervous
because that feels like it feels like it's going to be a great series.
And like Jokic is going to have to do this every night.
And he's going to have to have his supporting cast do this every night.
And yes, I would say like, I mean, when you look at this game,
the Nuggets completely dominated the boards.
I think that's 17 more rebounds, but the Lakers are going to be there.
Like they're just Austin Reeves is is a stone cold killer.
Can we say that now?
You like 11 points in the in the fourth quarter, he was hitting everything.
Yeah, he does look like he could be an extra on Ozark, too.
Yeah, dude is awesome.
He has a boat and he's yeah, he's got a boat and he gets he gets the kids in trouble.
And then they find out like, oh, shit, now they're in real trouble
because they have heroin in that boat. Yeah.
Yeah, a kid from he's from Arkansas, right?
So a kid from Arkansas would be would feel right at home
in an arena named after Mason jars.
So Austin Reeves is legitimate like he is a legitimate threat.
I think we can stop.
He's a New Delhi.
He might he might be better.
I think he's better Old Delhi offensively.
I haven't seen him die trying to defend Steph Curry yet.
But yeah, he's he's extremely talented.
Like he's going to somebody's going to pay Austin Reeves a lot of money
at some point and it's going to be awesome.
He's Hillbilly Kobe.
That's his nickname.
Yeah, which is a great name.
It is a great nickname.
Watching this game, I kept thinking I was actually I was watching it with my mom
and I was telling her because she likes college basketball more than NBA.
I was like, Mom, watching this game.
This is this is a completely different sport that they're playing
than college basketball.
It was it was so fun to watch.
I think a lot of people out there were saying that it's one of the best
NBA games of all time, right?
I think our senior business correspondent had something to say about that.
Yeah, Darren Revelle, not a prisoner of the moment,
tweeted directly after the game.
It was maybe like five minutes after the game.
People will dismiss it because it's not an NBA finals game.
So the stakes weren't as high.
But what you just watched was one of the greatest games ever played.
Yeah, one of the greatest games ever played.
He didn't specify sport either.
He just meant like games of all games ever played.
That's that's the best.
It was a very good game.
And I'm looking forward to seeing, I think, yeah, five more of these very good games.
I still think Nuggets in six.
If Jokic can dominate like he dominated tonight
and I actually don't see a reason why he wouldn't be able to as insane
as his game was tonight, that's kind of what Jokic has been doing these playoffs.
Granted, he hasn't had 34 points yet in the triple double,
but he's been taking over games and just dominating,
whether it's his passing, his rebounding or a shooting or tonight, his outside shooting.
He had that one at the end of the third quarter
where Anthony Davis just starts smiling afterwards.
And you know that you haven't beat at that point.
Yeah, yeah.
And listen, I do think the Lakers like I don't know what whose line is it anyway,
what their what their line will be on on Thursday night.
I think the Lakers might win the game too, because it did feel also like
in the fourth quarter, it felt like they figured a little something out
like Anthony Davis was was playing off Gordon was disrupting everything.
Like you could tell the Nuggets got a little tight going into the going into the paint.
He was blocking every shot.
He was like, you know, if not blocking a shot, making everyone think twice
and make that extra pass or so.
I just think it's going to be a long series.
I think it's going to be a great series, a long series.
I'm scared of I'm scared about the Lakers.
This felt like what it was.
Max showing us was Max showing us user words.
It was the spread.
Oh, what's the spread?
Why don't you just say it?
Well, I want to interrupt what you were saying, but Lakers thought you could see it.
Lakers might be a might be game of the month.
That's I mean, it does feel like the Lakers have done this in
Memphis round and the Warriors round where it's like they lose one,
then they have that real like that extra effort to win one.
Or when they come off a big win, they'll kind of like walk around and be like,
ah, we don't need this one.
Like they need this one game, too.
So I don't know.
It's going to be a great series.
This was this was an awesome game one.
I'm so excited for this series.
Yeah, it's going to be great.
I don't think LeBron played great tonight.
He had that weird shot at the end.
Wasn't great from the outside, and he did give up.
We should also we should mention that on when they had a chance.
Were they trying to tie the game?
I think there were down three or no, they were down five, I think,
and they missed they had a turnover.
Low was when LeBron got the ball in the paint and went between his legs,
lost the ball.
Jamal Murray, actually great.
Yeah, great defense place.
And then LeBron just kind of stood there
and they let like seven seconds tick off the clock.
But we should, by law, as a sports podcast,
say that LeBron James needs to hustle more at the end of the quarter.
Yes, yes.
Yeah, Yolkic at the eight minute mark of the first quarter had eight points,
ten rebounds, four assists.
That's a full game for some guys.
Yeah, it's more than a full game.
He was just just purely dominant tonight.
Yeah.
And I mean, the rest of the everybody played well tonight.
I feel like nobody had a bad game tonight.
Yeah, no, actually, the only one who I would say is D'Angelo Russell,
who had moments where it was like he has a little bit in him where he's like,
watch out, it's D'Lo time and I'm going to do this.
And he was missing shots.
And it's like, dude, you have like the way this Lakers team is built
and why they are so good and why I'm so scared of them is they have a ton
of guys who can step up and you had Rui, Rui Hachemore step up
and Austin Reeves step up.
You just had D'Lo kind of be like, try to try to try to be the hero
for a little bit there and wasn't shooting well and that put him in a hole.
And didn't D'Angelo Russell say earlier this year, like after he after he left
the T Wolves, right?
He said, like, finally, I've got the green light.
I get to play without the restrictor plate on me.
Yeah.
And so this is this is what you get sometimes with with D'Angelo Russell
when he doesn't have the restrictor plate on him.
Yes, exactly.
If for load management purposes, I'm sure there'll be a lot of people
talking about Anthony Davis playing 42 minutes in high altitude.
Will he even be able to play a game too?
I would sit him.
I would probably sit him too.
I would sit him and LeBron regroup, bring it back to LA, get it down to sea level
and then see if you can rattle off two games at home.
You know, the series doesn't start until a road team wins a game.
Yes.
By the way, I'm wearing the sports hat.
It's in the Barstool Sports Store right now.
If you do not have a team in the playoffs anymore, it's the best hat to wear
because you just like, I was just sitting there.
I had my bets, but I was just rooting for sports and I love sports.
And it was like one of those games like shit, this was awesome.
And now we're at this point of the playoffs where it's kind of nice
being able to sit back and watch one singular game and like really get yourself
into it. You know what I mean?
Just like sit there and just soak in that game.
Experience the commercial breaks, take a breath.
Yeah. Yeah, it's it's not bad.
I do like the conference final week.
That's a it's a much needed break.
Yes.
Um, okay.
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That was, that's a big difference, Hank.
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Lottery.
Victor Wembanyana, Victor, I, I had an extra N at the end.
Victor Wembanyama, Wembanyama, Victor Wembanyama is going to be a San Antonio
spur, which can you be mad?
My big question coming out of this, can you be mad at the spurs?
They have, this is their third number one pick ever.
They went, David Robinson, Tim Duncan.
Now they're getting Victor Wembanyama.
Um, they have five titles in the last, whatever it is, 25 years, but I still
can't be mad at the spurs cause like I've been to San Antonio, nice town, but
like good for San Antonio, good for the spurs fans.
I'm not mad.
And Popovich, like if you want a young player to not have his career go sideways
with bad coaching and a dysfunctional franchise, there's no better place than
San Antonio for him to land.
Yeah, you can be mad.
You can be mad at, at anybody if it makes you feel better.
But I think in this case, that's what I'm saying.
Yeah, well, if you, if you compete, if you're in the West and you have to compete
against the spurs, you're at this point, you're just like, come on, really?
Like again, and I get that.
I understand that sentiment.
But as a fan of sports, big cat, as a fan of the league in general, I think, I think
we can agree that him going to San Antonio is like the perfect culture fit.
We called it with Kurt Goldsbury that pop would, pop would be the best place for
him to land with the spurs history, not just with big men, but also at the
international level, and guys like Jenobley, Parker, Boris Diao, who by the
way, Boris Diao is the owner of the French team.
Oh, that Wimbanyama plays for.
So a little NBA rigged.
Now, I also, I read one tweet that said that.
So I might be wrong on it, but it looked like a solid tweet.
So I'm just going to repeat it verbatim.
I think Diao owns the team that Wimbanyama was on.
And then now he's over on the spurs.
So if you're putting on your NBA rigged hat, which, which I'm going to allow
everybody to do because it's fun to say there could be something to that.
But I think like from just a development standpoint, it's good.
It's good for San Antonio.
And San Antonio is low key, a big market.
People are really, they always refer to it as being a small market team.
Fuckload of people live in San Antonio.
Yeah.
And big people too.
Yeah.
They eat a lot.
People.
Yeah.
Now, what was Charles Barkley, the churros?
Big women.
You have big women in the churros.
Um, so, yeah, so I can't be mad at the spurs.
I just couldn't muster it up.
I don't really know what team I would have been mad at, but the spurs are not it.
Uh, what I did do though, instantly, because I stupidly was like all day
thinking, you know, NBA rigged, they're going to figure out a way.
The bulls are going to have a miracle.
So when it didn't happen, it was, it was over very quickly.
Um, I did just go straight into like, he's probably not even that good.
They showed, they showed before, uh, he had a game today.
And he like went and he had 22 and eight in the French league.
Come on.
Like Yoko's just had 34 and, and 21 and 14.
So I might be on Victor Wembanyama is too big, uh, too skinny.
And also Rudy Gopar is, would be his like, you know, Frenchman.
Uh, and so maybe what's the best dog he can have in him?
A French poodle?
I don't know these questions that I'm asking.
Yeah.
Yeah, I would, I, if anything, the spend zone you go with is he's already peaked.
Yeah.
And he, and he's done progressing at this point.
So yeah, you've already seen what he's going to give you.
Whereas other players like Yoko, it's weren't very good when they were drafted.
There was a lot of room to grow with Wembanyama.
He is, he's already seen everything that you're going to get from him.
Uh, but in reality, he's like seven, five.
Did you see the picture of him that they showed?
It was, uh, they had a video feed of his, his lottery draft party.
And you know that you're a fucking baller.
If they've got cameras on you, if they fly Brian Windhorse overseas to hang
out with you at the draft lottery party, you've got it made at that point.
But the video interview and the mic didn't even work.
Poor Wendy, he's the hardest working guy in the fucking business and he is so
strong and the mic didn't even work.
Does he par, does he parlay LaFrance?
I don't know if he parlay is LaFrance, but he's, listen, if Wendy's
got your back right away, that means like, that's a good thing.
Like Wendy going out there actually reverses everything.
And I'll be fully transparent.
Um, my thoughts that he is not going to be pan out and that, you know, he's
too skinny, he's too French, all these things.
This is just like the bitter I was spending all day fantasizing
about having him on the bulls.
And then when he's not, it's like immediately try to shield yourself
from any type of hurt.
It's what guys do, you know, like, Oh, you can't hurt me.
I'll hurt you.
So that, that's all those thoughts.
I actually probably wound up rooting for him, liking him, hoping he does really
well, but right now I'm going to just hurt him and not let him hurt me first.
I wanted him on the wizards.
Absolutely.
Like that's, that's a guy that you can actually point to and say, okay, well,
we're going to be good for the next 10 years if we manage this right.
But I do like to spend zone of being just saying right off the bat, he might
be too French.
Yeah, it's too French.
If he got matched up against Dirk, Dirk would just dominate him in the
first quarter of the game, right over, go right over him, right over him.
And then he just lay down and then expect his American teammates to pick
him up and carry him to a championship.
Yeah, but maybe one can maybe Andrew, one Canadian, maybe Andrew Wiggins
can helps out.
Yeah.
And then they'd have to do it again 20 years later at the end of his career
when they drafted a good, strong, strapping American young boy.
But yeah, uh, he's the pig, the video feed that they had of him when he was
standing up in that room was laugh out loud, funny because he's just walking
around the room and his head is bumping into the ceiling.
He's so big.
That, that also might be a French thing.
They might just have low ceilings because they're, they're smaller people in France.
Well, I actually, I've heard reports that he's like lying about, he's doing the
Kevin Durant, he's lying about his height in the reverse way where he's like,
no, no, no, he's only seven, four, but people are like, he might be seven, five,
seven, six, like he's going to keep growing a little bit more.
I just know, um, there's 13 other teams that were in the lottery tonight.
And I'm speaking to those fans specifically, it's okay to just get off a
couple of takes being like, that's a bust.
And, and, and we know that all 13 franchises that didn't get him, we know deep
down we would have done anything to get him.
But use this time to shield yourself and be like, didn't even fucking want him.
I want a guy who played in college basketball.
Okay.
Yeah.
I want a high character guy like Brandon Miller.
Come on.
I don't want Victor from Wimbanyama.
So, and, and, and I'm specifically speaking to Pistons fans who got fucked.
So Pistons fans, you had the equal chance for the number one pick and you ended up
with a fifth pick.
And it was like to have that happen in this draft where you don't even make the
final four brutal, absolutely brutal.
So, so this fun little nugget came out after the draft from Ben Gulliver.
I thought this was unnecessary for him to put out there was kind of mean.
He said the San Antonio Spurs won the NBA draft lottery and the right to select Victor
Wimbanyama with a ping pong ball combo 14, 5, 8, 2.
After the first three numbers were picked, the Washington Wizards had six of the
possible 11 remaining numbers and barely missed.
I don't need to know that.
We keep that to yourself.
That's that's some behind the scenes.
Pricewaterhouse, Cooper, analytical shit.
Ernst and Young.
Yeah, the accounting, one of the big three or whatever accounting firms.
They, you keep that information in house and that felt like it was like it was personal
and unnecessary Ben Gulliver.
Keep that shit to yourself.
How do they pick that one random guy from Ernst and Young?
Because you know, like he then just litters his, his corner office with just pictures of
him at the, the draft lottery.
Like, do they, do they get to, do they do a draft lottery at Ernst and Young to decide
who gets to go?
Because that is the peak of being an accountant, right?
That's why you get into numbers.
That's why you study math in high school.
Do it to someday get to walk out and not even meet the commissioner, but just walk out with
the cards and place it on the table and then, and you have your little name on ESPN and that's,
that's the peak.
That's, that's it for you.
Yeah, you're like, I'm the sports accountant.
I'm a numbers guy, but you know, I'm the cool numbers guy.
It really, I didn't use any accounting in this.
I just, they just basically needed someone people trust so that they can say like, oh,
well, he handled it, not us.
Yeah, I'm, I'm a little bit salty with that stat coming out, but whatever.
That sucks.
We move on.
That sucks.
SPIN zone, at least I don't have to care about the wizards for another 10 years.
So that's good.
That's a blessing.
That, that is a PFT.
That's like when I do the 50-50 and I get to like the fourth number.
And I'm like, fuck.
Then when you like, cause I never get, I never get to like the fourth or fifth
number and then the rare time you do.
And you're like, why did you even do that?
That was such a tease.
Yeah.
In the NBA, they, they have it set up a little bit differently from hockey,
where it's more likely that a team that doesn't finish with the worst record or the
second worst record has a much better shot at it when you take everything into account.
But I mean, congrats to San Antonio.
Good job.
It's been, you know, being a San Antonio Spurs fan, it's not easy as Hank would
say for Boston sports fandom.
It's, they also last thing about the lottery.
I don't understand why the NBA, they're adding a mid season tournament and all
these playing games.
If you made a lottery tournament, people would watch like that would be fascinating
to watch where it's the 14 teams or maybe you say it's the last six teams or whatever.
But if they had to play and the winner of that gets to go, gets the number one pick,
it would be great.
Like if you want more ratings, you want more fans.
Fuck, I'd be rooting my ass off if the polls were in the finals of the, of the losers bracket.
Like that would be so much fun.
Unless you had a team that had like a pretty decent center on it, and then he would tank
the, the championship game so that they wouldn't draft Wimpy Yama.
Yeah, true.
All right.
Last thing before we kick it to ourselves for hot seat, cool throne and Brooks Kepka,
Daniel Rapport and guys on chicks.
Uh, Doc Rivers fired.
So Doc Rivers fired.
Um, he had to be fired.
I mean, Monty Williams also got fired.
It's one of those things in sports.
Like you can't, you can't trade and bead, you can't trade Kevin Durant and Devin Booker.
So you need a fall guy.
He probably should have been fired, but it also is like one of those rare cases where
Doc Rivers loves to, to blow it in big moments.
But that loss to me was squarely on James Harden and, and, and Joel and beat.
Yeah.
I don't, I don't know if getting rid of doc is going to solve everything, but it's going
to, it's a start.
They had to do it.
I saw a stat that said the, um, was it the three winningest regular season coaches in
the last three years have all been fired?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Crazy.
Yeah.
Because I mean, think about it.
I think, I think Nick Nurse, one coach the year, a few years ago, I know Monty Williams
might have won it two years in a row and they both got fired.
And I don't know if Bud won coach of the year.
What Jake?
Doc Rivers, Nick Nurse, Monty Williams, and Mike Boone-Holzer have six NBA coach of the
year awards between them.
All dismisses off season.
Eric Spultz was not one one from Fyrex sports.
Damn.
So Bud did win one.
So yeah, that's crazy.
And they all are gone.
Max, do you want to, uh, I just want Max to talk real quick, like 30 seconds, just so
you guys can see his, uh, camera view of his sole patch.
Go ahead, Max.
Doc, out thoughts?
Uh, doc, out, fine.
You look like a frog.
Yeah, I know I'm having some issues with my computer right now.
I had to switch to my phone.
Um, yeah, I guess it's a good day for Philly who really cares.
I mean, a lot of people in Philly are really happy about it, but I don't really think it
makes any of a difference.
I think it makes a small difference, right?
You'd rather, if you're going to try to rebuild this thing, you don't want doc to
be the guy.
Yeah.
No, it's more of like you would be angry if they brought him back, but him leaving
doesn't make you happy if, if that makes sense.
Just the absence of anger.
Yes.
Well, yeah, that's, that's basically my entire existence.
It's just, it's simply like you have to go through the process of someone has to be
accountable and you can't, it can't be Joel B just because of how contracts work.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
It's the exact same as Monty Williams.
I don't think Monty Williams is a bad coach, but you're like, we have to change something up.
Well, you're not going to change Devin Booker and Kevin Durant.
So Monty William, there's the door.
At some point over the years, should doc Rivers have gotten a vocal coach?
Like we see this happening with Morgan Wallin and a lot of singers.
Doc Rivers has been perpetually horse for, it feels like the last 15 years.
I don't know how effective as a coach you can be if you never actually have a speaking voice.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Best coaches who, who never have their voice.
I mean, coach O won a national title.
That's true.
But he's still got that.
He can, he can yell at you.
That, that voice resonates.
Um, Michael McDonnell, uh, what's his name?
Michael Malone.
Michael Malone never has a voice either.
Yeah.
Um, Hank, do you want to tell us quickly what you're thinking before game one?
You feel super confident, super confident.
No, I feel confident.
I mean, they came out of the stat, uh, that was like ESPN bullshit,
bullshit, fuck ESPN, but they were, it was like 97% South excited.
Like that was the percentage that they were going to win the series,
which I thought was a little, a little bit egregious, but I feel excited.
97% chance.
So if you, this would be the biggest upset ever.
According to them, I mean, I feel like it's a little bit closer than that, probably like 6040, but
I think if you looked at the Bruins first round odds, it'd probably be a little bit higher than 97%.
Yeah.
I mean, listen, I know what it's like to be number one in Luz and I'm looking at,
at cake marsh and I know what's on the other side there.
So I know how formidable of a foe that is.
I also would like to just, um, since we have Brooks on this show and you know,
we're, we're getting close to Blake of the year, I'd like to say I'm rooting for my good
personal friend, Blake Griffin.
I got a little bit of a lashing on text last night.
Um, he threw one through 99 in my head and was like,
where are you going now with your buddy B ball, Paul?
So I will, I'm, I am, I'm shifting.
Hi, it's Blake Griffin time.
No, Blake Griffin has been a loyal, loyal guy for this show and one of like our all-time guests.
So, uh, sometimes you just need to be corrected in life and I got corrected.
Hank was witness to it.
Yes.
Yeah.
I wanted to ask him how his back was, but I didn't want to, I didn't want to press it.
Yeah.
Um, I have one last thing, uh, that just came across, uh, Twitter.
Breaking moves, breaking moves.
Breaking moves, Magic Johnson has, uh, weighed in on game one.
He has said, the Lakers need to regroup and clean up some things for game two.
That's it.
I mean, the fact that that's your owner now.
That's my owner.
Yeah.
He's right.
I mean, spot the lie.
They need to regroup and then need to find some things.
Maybe maybe the basket.
Clean up some things.
Yeah.
Clean up some things.
Here we go.
Okay.
Yeah.
I mean, spot the lie.
That's the guy that knows ball.
When he's coming that early, that when he's coming this recently off a game too,
you know, he's fired up.
Usually it's like a full 12 hours to 24 after the game ends.
I can't wait.
I can't wait for Magic Johnson tweets after commander's games because he is just a
perpetually positive guy and finding positive things to say about the Redskins
football team commanders has been very tough to do for the last 30 years.
I can't wait for those.
Those are going to be must watch.
All right.
Let's kick it to ourselves.
We've got a lot of great show coming up and Brooks is back.
Rejoice Brooks is back.
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Hot seat, cool throne, Hank.
Hot seat, have a couple.
Yeah.
First one is the NHL.
Yep.
The conference finals, absolute dud matchups.
Absolute dud.
Disagree.
It's Dallas versus Vegas, Carolina versus Florida.
Jake, I mean, you're not even going to be watching.
You say you're disagreeing, but you're not, you're not, you're not watching every day.
Shout out all of our Carolina H word fans.
I will.
Okay.
If I'm able to.
Exactly.
That Eastern Conference finals of Nightmare for Hank, who has an extreme distaste for any
sports team that is based around an entire region, as opposed to a city.
I remember you, you got really upset about Carolina Panthers at one point,
completely forgetting that you root for the New England Patriots.
Yeah.
I think that was satirical, but.
Oh, oh, oh.
Over your head.
No, it wasn't.
Listen, this podcast gets listened to by a lot of people across America,
try to talk about all sports.
I think that's one of the things we do well is we talk about every single sport.
We're not just one, one sports centric.
So knowing that we have fans all across America, let's say one thing about each team.
I'll start.
We'll go around.
Let's start with the Carolina Hurricanes.
I'll say their full name, that pig that they have the rally pig or
something.
Yeah.
Fucking cool.
Okay.
The rookie that got his face caved in by a Vetskin in the playoffs took it like a
champ a couple of years ago.
Okay.
Nice.
I think they should change their name.
It's offensive to people who were affected by.
Maybe, maybe.
Hurricanes or Maltlicker Hamilton, the pig, by the way.
I just looked it up.
There we go.
Hamilton, the pig.
It's a good name for a pig.
Great name.
They have a cool logo.
A hurricane logo.
Yeah.
Now you're just complimenting Miami.
You're complimenting weathermen too.
Yeah.
That's Carolina.
Yeah, but no, but it's the same logo as the hurricane.
No, it's different.
Miami Hurricanes.
No, they have the logo though.
No, I know the Miami, they have an alternate logo, don't they?
Is it on a flag?
What is the Miami Hurricanes?
Maybe Sebastian the Ibis you're thinking of.
Yeah.
The U has the two.
The U is the iconic.
No, I know that.
I know that.
I thought they had an alternate logo as well, but maybe not.
Okay.
Yeah.
This is really good stuff we're doing.
All right.
Billy, Billy, Carolina Hurricanes.
Don't know much about them, but I like the Golden Knights.
Okay.
Okay, well, that's not the thing that we're talking about.
All right.
Good job.
All right.
Next team, Florida Panthers.
People forget Ariana Grande.
Huge Florida Panthers fan actually got hit by two pucks, I believe.
I don't know.
Maybe it was one when she was like a little girl.
She had season tickets.
All right.
Kodak Black.
Kodak.
Billy, come on, Billy.
You've ruined the easiest thing in the world here.
Kodak Black was at a Florida Panthers game with a stripper
and was basically banging her doggy style during the game
in an open-air suite.
Also, Mike Ruiz from Lebatard.
Good friend of ours.
Brooks hates them and so do I.
Okay.
That clip of him holding up the cone.
Yeah.
All right, Jake.
Hometown team.
It's right next to the Sawgrass Mills Mall
where Want to Do City used to be.
Great spot.
Okay.
Billy, come on, Billy.
How'd he set mine?
No, he was out of turn.
There's no such thing as a Florida Panther.
True.
Yeah, so I just took yours.
Okay.
Dallas Stars.
Joe Pavelski.
Badger.
Awesome player.
Also, I kind of rooted for the Dallas Stars
for like a second when Patrick Sharp got traded there.
I was like, oh, I'll, you know, hope they do well.
And then I just forgot to do that.
The Texas Stars,
minor league affiliate of the Dallas Stars,
they play in Cedar Park, Texas.
Used to go to a bunch of their games.
Great arena.
Always a good fight there.
I think they won the Calder Cup one year.
So I like their minor league program.
Okay.
Good one.
Tyler Sagan.
Bruins champion.
I think this is my official pick
and team I'll be rooting for.
Okay.
Their goalie's name, Jake.
Very cool.
Very cool.
Very cool.
Billy.
This is the hardest task in the world for him.
Dallas is a cool city.
All right.
Nice.
Is it?
Sure.
You ever been there?
Act shows in Arlington.
Oh, yeah.
That's classic Dallas guy out there.
Yeah.
You're not as disappointed as the Cowboys.
This is as far,
this is further than the Cowboys have gone in
20.
Lot of years.
Eight years.
20 lot of years.
Yeah.
20 years.
20 years.
Okay.
Vegas, the helmets are very cool.
When they wear the gold helmets.
Yeah.
That's really cool.
Makes me think of Notre Dame.
Makes me think of football.
Makes me happy.
When they do the all gold everything
and Trinidad James song comes on.
That's pretty cool.
Good pregame ceremony too.
Yes.
Where they do the medieval times on acid thing.
Yes.
On the ice.
Love that.
The Caps won a cup there.
Okay.
Yeah.
That's good.
I forgot about that.
Good one.
Lot of good memories in that barn.
Good one.
They're having insane success as still a new franchise.
Yeah.
They're in the mix every year.
I don't think.
Once a new franchise comes, you can't.
Yeah, they did.
They're not the new guy anymore.
They got cucked by the Kraken.
Kraken.
We're Kraken's.
That's right.
All right.
They're having great success in their first few years.
Okay.
There's a dude on their fourth line with the same last name as me.
Football?
What?
Yeah.
That's a weird name for a hockey player.
That's sick.
All right.
So we said something nice about every team.
Good for us.
Okay.
That's hockey talk.
Because, you know, people were like, hey, why don't you talk about this team?
See you next year.
Yeah.
No, listen, clip this.
Anytime anyone asks us, why don't you talk about this?
This team?
Boom.
We just did it.
Mm-hmm.
We're hot.
Do the same for Stanley Cup Final.
We're fancy puck boys.
Yeah.
Hell yeah.
But yeah, this is not exactly the dream for the NHL.
No.
Still will be fun to watch because hockey players are fun to watch,
but a little tough.
You can rig one thing per year.
You either rig the playoffs or you rig the draft.
They rig the draft this year.
Good job, NHL.
Mm-hmm.
Now let's maybe think about rigging the playoffs next year.
Yes.
My other hot seat was Aaron Judge.
Got caught cheating.
Stealing signs again.
Yankee's back at it again.
Yep.
He was stealing the pot.
He was stealing the pot.
Jake, did you see his eyes?
Did you see his quote?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, did he saw his quote?
Should we believe him?
A lot of chirping from our dugout,
which I really didn't like in the situation where it's a 6-0 game.
I was kind of just trying to see who was chirping in the dugout.
Oh, just chirping.
Yeah.
Just the dugout was chirping.
Yeah, that's why he glanced just with his eyes
and not turning his head.
Right, Jake?
It wouldn't chirping.
Like, wouldn't saying what pitch is coming
wouldn't that technically qualify as chirping?
The other assumption from friend of the program-ish,
not really.
Buster only.
Friend of the office.
Friend of the friend of the strength.
Friend of Frank.
No, no, no.
No, no.
What friend of Frank?
No, he hates him at.
He's doing the chop.
Enemy of all of us.
Yes, enemy of all of us.
There is an assumption on the J side
that their pitchers and catchers were betraying the identity
of the forthcoming pitches last night.
It's a really advanced way to say maybe tipping pitches.
Oh, that's another way to say that the dugout
was sending signs to Aaron Judge about what pitches were being ticked.
Wait, but he struck out, so it doesn't matter, right?
Nope.
Two home runs.
Oh, no.
But they weren't very.
That wasn't a far home run to Aaron Judge.
And this is why he was glancing to his right for info.
The home run didn't go that far, did it?
Oh, he crossed it.
Oh, and 480 feet.
Listen, if it comes out, he was cheating.
I will admit, we don't deserve that in baseball.
Print stripes permanently gone.
Permanently.
But, Jake, I actually disagree with you 100% on that.
In baseball, if you're not cheating, you're not trying.
Like, if you're able to get away with it,
I actually think if you're communicating to Aaron Judge
from the dugout, what pitch is coming,
if it's being tipped or as Buster put it, if they're betraying.
Betraying the identity of the forthcoming pitches.
I love that phrase.
Betraying the identity of the forthcoming pitch.
And your team is communicating that to you
without the use of electronics.
Then it's fine.
You should be allowed to do it.
I actually think also, like MLB,
they should just plan some type of cheating scandal
right around now every year.
Because it does get, like, cheating in baseball
is, I think, the only sport where it's actually beneficial
because it gets people talking about baseball.
Yeah.
Usually, there's a fight.
I think that Ruff Nettledore, Joey Batts' fight
was on roughly this day,
like seven years ago.
I love a good springtime brawl.
Yeah, just get us talking about something else.
It's either that or a B-delay about this time of year.
Well, the other notable clip was the Sunday Night Baseball
asking the Red Sox guy on Mother's Day.
He was like, it's Mother's Day,
and your mom died when you were a kid.
Talk about that.
Yeah.
That was tough.
It was quite during a play.
Yeah, it was the mic'd up on the field thing, right?
Yeah, he handled it really well, though.
Yeah.
With the announcer?
No, the player.
Oh, yeah.
What do you think, Jake?
Carl Ravich, should he have asked that question or not?
As a play-by-play guy?
I think that's, like, we watch the draft all the time,
and you have those features, right?
Those are pre-produced, but when you're in the middle of a game,
that's just the last thing you're probably thinking about.
Yeah, well, it was Mother's Day,
so I mean, he had to be topical, I guess.
And he was mic'd up with that guy.
So, Judge, cheater or not a cheater?
Cheater.
Wait, if his dugout was telling him what pitch was coming,
that's technically cheating?
Spending the rules.
Yeah.
So, if, like, a player.
I mean, you're not supposed to look and see what the catcher is doing
and then relay it to the batter.
That's the Astros.
No, but that's electronic.
But they were doing the same thing.
They were looking, seeing what was being called by the catcher,
and then relaying it to the batter.
But they were, like, using technology.
Right, yeah.
That's like having another headset in your helmet and football
that communicates you during the game.
I think you should be cheating.
As long as there's no, like, vibrating watch or a camera
that's in center field relaying signals.
If you don't bring a battery or electricity into it,
I think you should be allowed to do it in baseball.
I don't think you should be able to do it from the dugout, though.
I think anyone, like, if you have a guy on second
and you can figure out a way to do it, that's fine.
How about this?
I don't think you should be allowed to do it.
You're the first base coach, third base coach, that's fine.
But in the dugout, it's like, yeah.
Hell, it's true.
Yeah, you should be allowed to do it
as long as you're not on the Yankees.
Yeah.
How about that?
Mm-hmm.
Fair.
Who?
Do you have Rick Riley's number?
Uh, I might.
Can you text him something?
Yeah.
Can you just text him A. Judge receiving improper benefits?
I didn't know Harlan Crowe was in the news again.
And just see if he'll run with that tomorrow.
OK.
I want to go straight to Rick.
And then my cold throne.
I don't have his number.
Fuck.
Is friend of the program recurring guest, White Howard.
Oh.
What's he up to?
He is in Taiwan playing.
I don't know if you guys have seen any of the clips
of him playing the last year.
He drops like 40 a game, shoots as many threes as he wants,
absolutely dominates.
There's some very funny commercial shoots where he's,
you know, living the life, basically.
And he made a video trolling all of the underperformers
in the playoffs.
Jordan Poole, Julius Randall, Benson,
and Clay Thompson, Aten, CP3, and James Harden,
called them all out and is recruiting them to Taiwan.
Ooh.
So.
I would love that.
Dwight Howard's living the life.
He's back to trolling.
It was a very funny video.
And honestly, he looks like he's having a great time.
I would imagine.
He shoots 100 threes, he drops 40 a game,
probably lives like a king out there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then he just gets to, you know, go viral,
calling everyone out that underperforms in the playoffs.
I also like how we refer to Taiwan as a country.
John Cena definitely not coming back on the show now.
Come on, Hank.
That's China, brother.
Where'd he go, Hank?
Depending on where you sit.
No.
What?
It's not China.
No, it's Taiwan.
It's a country.
That's one of the things we stand for on this podcast.
Did I say country?
No, no, no, you're good.
You're on the right side of Russia.
You said Taiwan.
I just said he's playing in Taiwan.
I didn't say it was a country.
Fact.
Fact.
He's playing in Taiwan.
Wait, so then why'd you bring up what he said was wrong?
Well, no, I'm saying that he's right,
but John Cena's not going to want to come back on this show.
Because he acknowledged Taiwan?
Because you acknowledged Taiwan.
That was John Cena's big mistake that he made.
Got it.
Remember that?
If you said Thailand, that would be a whole different story.
What was his apology video?
He started out by going, Ni Hao,
and then he just apologized and Mandarin
for calling Taiwan a country.
But Hank didn't even call it a country.
I just said he's playing in Taiwan.
Well, if you had been, if you'd been referring to it
as part of China, you would have said Taipei.
OK.
So good job.
Got it.
Thank you.
Appreciate it, Hank.
PFT.
Welcome to G-Politicizer.
Politicist.
Yep, that's you.
My hot seat is Georgia Academics.
Yeah, I had this as well.
Because Stetson Bennett, somebody did some research on him
and looked up the graduation at Georgia
that just happened last year.
His name was not on the roll.
He doesn't have a degree from Georgia.
So he spent, what, seven years?
Seven years.
Seven years at the University of Georgia.
Some meta-community colleges, or JUCO as well.
Yeah.
And then came back.
Yep.
Got the pre-rex taken care of that way.
If he didn't, I saw someone wrote it.
I think it might have been six and some change.
But if he didn't, his first two years of college,
if he didn't accumulate any credits,
he still had a full four and a half years to get his degree.
Yeah, this is Van Wilder type stuff.
Like legendary.
Nobody had a better college experience
besides the whole arrest thing than Stetson Bennett did.
Yes.
He had a fantastic time at Georgia.
Also, I didn't know, I learned this.
Fun fact, Newman from Seinfeld went to Georgia
also didn't get a degree.
How many years?
Like a year maybe.
Oh, OK.
Yeah, that would check out.
There you go.
Yeah, didn't they call Stetson Bennett the mailman too?
Was that a nickname that he had for a while?
I don't know.
Why would they call him the mailman?
He's just delivering.
Because he looked like a mailman?
Yeah, and he's delivering like he doesn't really
have to do much.
The paper boy just going the newspaper.
It is his nickname.
It is his nickname.
Why is it his nickname?
Looking.
OK.
Wow, that's freaky.
Yeah.
My cool throne is US soccer.
Yeah.
US men's national team.
Because it's coming home.
We just got to commit from, I'm going to try
to say this name correct, for Lauren Balogan.
For Lauren Balogan, he's on the arsenal.
He's on the arsenals.
And he's a striker.
And we don't have a striker.
He was trying to figure out if he was going to play
for the British, the English national team,
or the American national team.
He chose to play for the US men's national team.
So once again, he probably saw that game at the World Cup.
Yeah.
And he was like, oh, the US won the shit out of that draw.
I want to play for some winners.
So we got a big defection.
Biggest defection since Prince Harry came over
to the United States a couple of years ago.
We got for Lauren Balogan.
And he rounds out the golden generation of US soccer.
I love that he just did this like it was a 17-year-old.
Is your watch talking?
Yeah, Siri's talking to me.
I love that he did this like a 17-year-old deciding
what college to go to.
Yeah.
But it's a country.
Yeah, we got some NIL money.
It was between us, England, and Nigeria.
So I think he made the right choice.
So it's coming home, 2026.
Hell, yes.
Way to go, dude.
Feels good.
What do you got?
Got it.
So he wore a mailman hat to recruiting showcases
around the country as a way to stand out.
That's a benefit.
That's weird.
Oh, yeah.
That's very weird.
His buddy's father is the mayor of a small town around here,
and he's always getting cool things.
I saw the hat one day and asked if I could wear it.
I first wore it to a camp and got asked to Georgia.
I'm not real big or striking physically,
but I wanted to have something people would remember me by.
OK, so that's like another Seinfeld episode where George
tried to get everybody to call him T-Bone and started
eating steaks everywhere.
He wore that hat specifically so people would start calling him
the mayor.
I don't think we can give him that nickname anymore.
I don't think we have to take it.
You know what?
Didn't graduate.
He's the fail man.
Oh, burn.
How about that?
You're the fail man, Stetson.
Have that, Stetson.
You got two titles.
He got drafted what, the fourth round?
Fourth or fifth round?
Yeah, the Rams.
Yeah.
He's in the Ramley.
Yeah, so he'll be fine.
Yeah, he'll be good.
He'll be great.
OK, so my hot seat was also Stetson Bennett.
I'll pivot.
Well, actually no, because we already
talked about Doc Rivers getting fired.
And Jay Wright possibly being the sixth or sixth coach.
I'll just go right to my cool throne.
My cool throne is Martha Stewart, who's on the cover
of Sports Illustrated Swimsuit.
And would she be the definition of a baddie?
She is a baddie.
She's done time.
Bad grandma.
Yeah, she's hot.
She looks good.
Go ahead, put it on there.
She's hot.
Listen, Martha Stewart is probably the hottest
81-year-old in the world.
And I feel no problem saying she's hot,
because she's on the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit edition.
She is on there being like, look how hot I am.
She wants me to call her hot.
Yeah, she's like, I am an older woman who is hot.
Did she make her own swimsuit?
No, that would be great.
She'd like it.
She'd crocaded or whatever.
Crocaded?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Arts and Craft did it.
It's made out of her grandmother's quilt.
What is it?
Crochet?
Crochet.
Crochet.
I like croquet better, though.
Croquet, crochet, who cares?
She looks good, though.
Listen, she is, she does it for me.
I'd suck a fart out of her ass.
Yeah, I drink her.
I drink her bath water.
OK, Billy, you're not stupid.
I think I would.
I would suck a fart out of Martha Stewart's ass.
I would drink Martha Stewart's bath water.
I bet you she's got like a luxury giant claw foot tub
in a well-lit room.
Some scones next to it.
Oh, yeah.
Like some, she probably has bathtub scones.
Yeah, Martha, come on the show.
Yeah.
Literally.
Please.
Come on.
Come on the show.
Come on this show.
And give me that ass.
I'll suck that fart right out.
You know what?
I'll suck it out and spit it right in PFT's mouth.
Birthday show.
That's the birthday show that we recorded midnight.
Fuck yeah.
Take her to Paris, show the Eiffel Tower,
and then suck a fart out and pass it, suck and blow.
Yeah.
I'm sorry, Martha, that was.
No, I think that was exactly what she, I mean, she, look,
she's hot.
Yeah.
What do you want to say?
She's fucking hot.
I am but a man.
At the end of the day, a man with a boner.
She's 81.
You think she gets still 69?
Oh, yeah.
On top, Ed Bodd.
Yeah.
Standing 69, that might be a hip.
Yeah.
Hip, hip issue.
But we'll give it a try, Martha.
Okay, Billy, would you fuck Martha Stewart, Billy?
So my hot seat is.
Pussy.
Oh, my hot seat's humanity.
About a year ago, JP Morgan Chase started using.
Martha Stewart's daughter is 57 years old.
Yeah.
Martha Stewart's way hotter than her daughter.
Oh, man.
Yeah.
Her daughter's too old for me, but Martha Stewart, she's just right.
Martha Stewart kind of looks like Donald Trump.
A little bit.
You want to fuck her, in other words.
Yeah, you do want.
Now you do.
No, but that's like.
Question answered.
Okay, so about a year ago.
Billy's so straight, he wouldn't fuck Martha Stewart.
So I used this workforce activity, data utility software, and now a year later,
a manager for JP Morgan Chase came out on red and actually said what this software was doing.
And apparently it was using AI technology to track workers, eyeballs, physical attitude,
and basically take all these invasive data points to ensure that their workers are like
working 100% all the time.
If they're having a bad day and then had a basically it ranked all their workers
on how hard they were working.
It's kind of it's kind of crazy because then during the work from home era,
they were tapping their microphones and video cameras through like a third party
software that they thought was just like, you know, a one login type thing.
And, you know, basically this person at JP Morgan wrote on Reddit.
JP Morgan got taken down off Reddit.
We don't know if this is actually entirely true of what all this guy said,
but basically said that I was waiting for that.
This is yeah, this is Billy read something on Reddit.
We don't know if it's true.
No, but no, he read something on Reddit about something that got taken down on Reddit.
Got it.
Basically, they're saying that this stuff's like pretty insane how much data points it's
collecting and by they you mean JP Morgan Chase.
So I'm looking for news JP Morgan.
I don't look like anyone's written.
I blogged about it.
Oh, but it's out there.
But some of the stuff that is out there is written about it.
It's on Twitter.
OK, OK, there we go.
Yeah.
So basically you can detect if you have like a gaming system on on your camera
or like illicit drugs in your background while you're like,
did the blog get posted?
It's about to be posted.
No, no.
So it's not out there yet.
But basically they can look it's in there,
but it's not out there.
And all these guys at JP Morgan Chase randomly have been getting fired and they think it's
because they're looking into their backgrounds while they're zooming or even while they're
working when they don't think their camera is working.
I would I would think that if any company out there would not care about how much you're
working, it would be a company like JP Morgan Chase where they only care about the bottom line.
It's like if you don't work hard, but you still bring money in, then who gives a shit, right?
Yeah, this sounds like something that a bunch of people who got fired or pissed off about being
fired made up to be like, this is why we got fired.
Blame AI.
It's kind of a little crazy.
It is a little crazy.
I would love to see if it's true.
I think basically this person who leaked it, it's like been getting taken down off Reddit.
So it's kind of weird that something like that's been getting taken down,
even though it like was so like open ended that if it wasn't true,
then it wouldn't be getting reported so consistently.
It sounds like a big brother's watch.
Yeah.
Okay.
Also, they were trying to do phishing schemes by trying to offer certain employees different
jobs through emails and if they click the link that also like was bad for their score.
You're disloyal.
They're entrapping them.
You're disloyal.
If they were looking for jobs on company time.
Yeah.
You remember when when Dave sent an email like three years ago being like, hey,
we're opening up Barstool, Florida just to see who is going to apply for the Barstool Miami
position.
Yeah.
That was funny.
That was very good.
Oh, and my cool throne is justice.
Those two phishing cheaters from a couple years ago finally got nice.
Yeah.
Congrats, Billy.
Yeah.
I could finally sleep tonight.
Yeah.
No, I was out.
10 days in prison.
You did bust this case open.
Yeah.
$2,500 fine.
But this is the big they got their boat.
10 days in prison is kind of the perfect amount.
Yeah.
It's a nice thing to be like.
Well, to be like, I went to prison.
It depends on what day.
I would love to go to prison the day after the Super Bowl until the combine.
But just to be like, oh, yeah, I've done hard time.
Yeah.
10 days.
18 months probation and also a three-year ban on ever getting a fishing license again.
That's the max sentence.
They can ban them, but you still have to apply for a fishing license.
And it's kind of like they're basically banned from fishing for life because no state
is going to allow them to fish, get a fishing license.
Right.
I kind of like that.
Never allowed to fish again.
I was proud when I saw this news come through because I knew that you were instrumental
in getting justice to be served in this case.
So on behalf of fish everywhere, Billy, thank you.
On the other hand, you're kind of a narc.
Well, they got caught.
Also, the fish were already dead, right?
Yeah, but you're kind of there.
No, no, they kind of snitched on them.
It was a fishing competition.
Right.
But we can catch the biggest fish and then they were stuffing weights in the fish.
Right.
But the fish were already dead.
So you didn't actually save any fish's life.
No, they were.
I don't care.
Fishings, they're eating all of them.
Okay.
What happened was is they were stealing from other fishermen by winning the contest,
getting huge boats, right?
Tons of prize money.
But they already got caught doing that at the competition.
So they're already in trouble.
You just kind of sent them to prison.
Right.
I also sent George Stanton to prison.
And you didn't save any fish.
I don't care about that part.
You don't care about the fish?
No.
All right.
All right, well.
I thought you were a wildlife guy.
I mean, I care about sustainable fishing.
Oh, okay.
All right, well then.
This is walleye fishing.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Oh, thank you, Billy.
Thank you for your service.
You fucking put those guys in jail.
Hell yeah.
What they did was fucked up.
Yeah.
What they did is you're basically a cop now.
Yeah.
Any like sports.
It's probably one of the worst sports cheating scandals in the past.
It is.
Yeah.
We got whites and fish.
Yeah.
Easily.
It was cute.
It's up there.
Puts the Astros to shame.
All right, Jake.
My hot seat is Matthew Stafford and Clayton Kershaw.
Oh.
Because there was a new sports duo out there.
Oh, yeah.
And grew up together.
Jason Tatum and Matthew Kachuk of the Florida Panthers.
Seventh, eighth, and ninth grade together at Chaminade in the St. Louis area.
And now they're both in the final four of their respective sports.
That's wild.
I'm actually, I didn't have a hot seat.
I'll do my hot seat right now.
Jake, you're on the hot seat.
Why is that?
Because we have the final four, the same final four as the bubble.
And you didn't mention that all day.
That is why I actually saw that stat and was like,
Jake will definitely bring this up.
I think it was just like so obvious that I assumed you guys would.
And I just didn't have it right now.
Yeah.
No, I mean, you should never assume that.
You should never assume that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So a bubble reel?
No.
No.
But I do think that the bubble is where that's,
that's where I fell in love with these nuggets was in the bubble.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So the bubble parts of the bubble were real to me.
I've got a bubble within a bubble that's real.
Yeah.
Jimmy Butler was real.
Jimmy Butler in the bubble was real.
Also, Anthony Davis was real.
Also, the sun's getting sucked off was real.
So there's certain parts of the bubble that were very real.
But LeBron winning it all.
Not really.
No, no.
That one, no.
Anthony Davis did.
Anthony Davis won it all.
Right.
My cool throne is Peacock because it will be streaming exclusively an NFL playoff game
just to further prove that streaming live broadcasts are the future.
So this is happening January.
A lot of people aren't happy about it.
Well, behind the paywall.
But hey, barcel.tv, we're doing a bunch and the NFL is clearly agreeing with that model
because they are putting an entire NFL playoff game.
As a stream.
We're not behind the paywall, though.
We are not behind the paywall.
But yeah, I mean, it's genius by Peacock and the NFL because we're going to watch.
Everyone's going to want to try to figure out it's going to crash.
They better figure that fucking shit out because if it crashes, I'll never forgive them.
It might crash.
It also might just the big problem whenever we talk about streaming is the different
variations of the delay that everyone's going to have.
So some people are going to watch it a couple of seconds before me.
That's going to piss me off.
But yeah, we've done it with Amazon.
We did with Amazon.
Yeah, we're ready.
They've gotten us used to it over the last couple of years.
But Peacock as like an app has sucked.
So I hope that they figure it out.
Yeah.
I try to watch the office all the time and like buffers and shit.
All I want on on any one of these streaming apps is just the ability to like swipe up and
have the video still playing.
Yes.
As I go into another app.
Correct.
And maybe even watch another video and another app while that first video is still playing.
TNT not having that has been the most annoying thing in these plans.
I hate it.
I hate it.
Yeah, because I want to like when I'm watching a late night game and I'm laying in bed,
I want to watch the game and scroll Twitter.
Yeah, I'll scroll Twitter and then I'll press play on a highlight from the same game that I'm
watching.
Yeah.
I want to be able to watch the highlight on Twitter as I'm watching the other game
and maybe something on YouTube at the same time.
Is that too much to ask?
Right.
I need is in playing a game on Candy Crush.
Yeah, get Candy Crush going.
Okay.
Good job, Jake.
Thank you.
Let's get to our interviews.
We've got Brooks Kepka back on the show.
And then we have Daniel Rappaport, our colleague, talking about the PGA championship before we
do that.
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And now here's Brooks Kepka.
Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very special guest.
He is a recurring guest many times.
It's been too long.
He did have a one day suspension that he appealed and we took away his suspension,
but it is Brooks Kepka and he is calling in live from the PGA Championship.
Brooks, I'll start.
It's just great to see your face.
Yeah, I appreciate that.
Yeah, it's good to see you guys have been away too long.
I know.
So let's start here.
People thought we hated you.
We never hated you.
There was a portion of time where you couldn't come on
because you might have joined a different golf league.
And you do still hate Dave, but there's never been beef between Pardon My Take and Brooks.
No, no, Pardon My Take and me and Blake are good.
Yeah, I don't even hate Dave.
I just saw Dave's like a month ago down, maybe a month and a half ago down the Celtics game.
So we talked, said hi, I think he was down there with his girl.
That was quite fun.
Yeah, yeah.
They said he likes to talk some shit.
I love it.
Yeah, yeah.
You look great though.
You look happy.
We were watching you at the Masters.
You played really well those first three rounds at the Masters.
You were awesome.
Yeah, it was fun to watch though.
The reality kicked in.
Well, did reality kick in or did Hank kick in?
Because both Big Cat and I had significant, we were rooting for you very, very hard.
I'll put it that way.
And then Hank basically put the green jacket on you in Photoshop at least.
And then some other stuff happened.
Yeah, I mean, he must be.
Let's put it that way.
It does suck, but it is what it is.
Now, when you lost the Masters, would you characterize it as a joke?
I wouldn't.
But some people did.
Yeah, I'd characterize that as a joke.
Damn.
Yeah, it was pretty bad.
Yeah, I mean, come on, you got a four shot lead all you got to do.
I was playing good and just choked it away, but it's all right.
We'll figure it out.
I don't want to get you in any trouble, but hypothetically, let's say someone on the golf
course is playing slowly in front of you.
You like to play fast.
Does that does it kind of like ruin your rhythm sometimes?
Hypothetically, if someone was playing slow in front of you?
Yeah, I mean, hypothetically, nobody would, right?
No, right.
Yeah, it's it's brutal.
It was really bad.
I think we waited every shot.
Hypothetically.
Yeah, hypothetically, we would have waited every shot.
Hypothetically, we have an interview coming up with Dan Rappaport after this where we may
have suggested to him that in a situation like that, hypothetically, the player that's waiting
could just bomb a tee shot into that person and hit him in the ribs, like in baseball,
brush him back a little bit.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, it's a warning shot, right?
Yeah, hypothetically, but I think I should start doing that.
I'm going to listen to hypothetically, I think you could give that warning shot probably on
live. Yeah.
Yeah.
Yes, yes.
But you do seem to be playing really well recently.
Anybody that's followed what you've been doing on the live tour and the Masters has seen that.
How are we feeling going to the PGA championship?
Because I feel like I feel like Kepke's guys, you know, you've got an army that's just waiting
to be reactivated behind you.
Honestly, I'm hoping this because this is my good luck charm.
Yes.
Last time I came on, I came on to the PGA here.
I mean, pardon my take is my good luck charm.
So let's take it and roll with it.
Yes.
So we also saw full swing.
I texted you with you about it.
I think that episode was good.
Like overall, would you say that was good that people got to see that side of you?
Because I was watching it and I was like, look, I know Brooks.
I like him.
He's a friend.
But seeing like you go through the injuries and the mental side of golf,
when you watch it all come out, were you like, this is good that people finally have seen
this side of my story.
It's not all easy and like, you know, fun.
Yeah.
I mean, it's definitely a different side of what I've probably let on.
But there's a lot of stuff that wasn't shown.
It was interesting.
But at the end of the day, I mean, look, I am who I am.
I was authentically myself and, you know, it's like reality TV.
They can kind of script it how they want to script it.
Yeah.
I do want to have your back though for one moment.
There was a scene where you were talking to your mom in your living room.
And you looked angry and you text me after that actually that scene happened during March Madness
and you had just suffered a very bad loss.
They should have shown that because like someone after a bad March Madness loss
cannot be judged as a regular human being.
Yeah.
No, absolutely.
You know, I literally just couldn't move on.
I'm sure every gambler knows this.
I think there was a bit of cleanup that needed to happen before the cameras got there.
Yeah.
It wasn't it wasn't pretty.
I walked into a bad situation and you're wearing the triggered sweatshirt, which was so perfect.
Yeah.
I actually it was funny because I went out the shower and I just put it.
I was so pissed off.
I went up and put the trigger.
It's so perfect.
There was another scene that I thought they did you dirty on.
They showed a lot of interaction with you and your dog.
And you weren't petting your dog when the camera was on you.
And I thought that that should be put in proper context where you were petting your dog that day.
It's just when the camera happened to be on you.
It looked like you weren't petting your dog enough.
I think that's fucked up to do to a person.
Yeah, of course.
Right.
We're all dog lovers.
Yeah.
Well, not Max.
Oh, well, yeah.
Certain parts.
Max or producer Max.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So so what's what's changed recently?
Are you just healthier than you've been in the past?
Are you mentally you're feeling better?
What's the big was our turning point?
Uh, it's just honestly, it was just health, man.
My knee was a lot worse than I've probably let on to a lot of people and it feels good now.
It feels really good.
And then the other thing is, too, is you get into bad habits.
Golf is so like mechanical and all this stuff and you get into the bad habits, man.
It takes a long time just to get rid of them.
So that offseason was nice.
I like that offseason.
Yeah.
So let's talk about live because you're you're you're crushing on live.
What like when you get out there and you're playing in these tournaments,
does it feel totally different than playing on PGA like tour golf?
Is it like, because we see the clips, guys throwing beers, you know, people wearing shorts.
Um, is it just golf at the end of the day?
Or is it like a lot of fun?
It's, uh, it's pretty badass, man.
I mean, I mean, I think everybody saw the video of my brother making that whole one
with, uh, with Bert there with his shirt off.
Everybody's chucking beer.
My brother says he was soaked in beer, which is awesome.
Um, but yeah, no, it's a lot of fun.
I mean, the music's going the whole time.
It's it's like if you go play with your boys exactly what it would be like to just with
fans there.
That's cool.
Uh, yeah, I just especially getting soaked in beer parts.
Awesome.
Uh, I mean, one thing that I think golf could learn from either if it's live or if it's the,
uh, the waste management where they have the stadium hole, golf should have more like
stadium type environments in it and just let people go.
Oh yeah.
It's the best.
Honestly, it's way more fun when music's going, right?
You do anything.
You put music, a bunch of beer and a lot of people makes it makes for some fun times.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We, we asked, uh, Dan Rapport, which is coming up after your interview.
Uh, there was a story that Rory, Tiger hit up Rory and was like, Hey, I could fix your
swing.
Um, if Tiger hit you up, would you, would you go over his house and let him fix your
swing?
Or is that, uh, would you go over his house and let him fix your swing?
Or is that something that's like, Hey, this is my swing.
Don't worry about it.
I don't know what I would do.
I don't know.
He's definitely, he's never hit me up to be like, you know, come on over to the house.
I don't think I've ever gone.
So you'd have to, I don't think I will.
I don't think I will.
Yeah.
It might, it might, at this point, is it, is it weird though with the, like I would
assume, and maybe I'm way wrong.
Obviously the live stuff happened last year.
There was a lot of waves now that you guys are, you know, the masters happen now,
now the second major, is it just the same in the locker room or is there any bad
blood that happens in the locker room?
No, they're, you know, it's so funny.
It's, there's no bad blood.
Oh, everybody's so chill about it.
You know, that everyone understands, right?
It's a business at the end of the day.
Like you look at football guys are holding out for contracts because they want this
basketball, same thing.
Everyone gets it.
I think it was more like media driven than there is anything.
But everybody's cool with each other.
Everybody's still good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Has there been any talk that you've heard about, about the PGA tour letting live players
play in more events that they want to play in and not having it be like an exclusive thing?
No, I haven't heard anything about the PGA tour, but I did hear about the Ryder Cup.
I think there is a possibility where I guess the live player could be playing the Ryder
Cup and be fun, representing a country that'd be sick.
Yeah.
I think, I think on behalf of America, we should make that happen.
Yeah.
How does, how does this course set up?
Is it, did they try to Brooksproof this course or is it a course that you can get out there
and attack?
They tried, but they failed.
Honestly, today it was blowing like 30.
It was brutal today.
It's a fun golf course.
They redid it.
It's actually the 10 year anniversary of my caddy.
My caddy caddy for me here in 2013.
He showed up 30 minutes late.
Rick, I still don't know how he's got the job.
Well, he can't, but, uh, I know Rick's the best.
So yeah, it's kind of crazy.
This is where we, it all started for us.
I love that.
Would you, would you shoot today?
Uh, I think I shot three over on the front, which wasn't bad.
Honestly, it's blown.
It's, it's impossible out there.
Okay.
That, that feels bad though.
Yeah.
But yeah, today doesn't, it doesn't matter.
Okay.
It's a really good part.
Yeah.
The lights aren't on yet.
Major, I know.
Major Brooks is back.
We're starting on Thursdays.
Yeah.
Major, Thursdays now.
It's, it's a lot different.
Can we talk about that real quick?
Like everyone always says during a major, like for whatever reason,
Brooks just is able to turn it on during a major and focus.
Are you, do you still have that mindset or coming back from injuries
and being out of that top level for, you know, a year or so?
Did you have to start focusing even on the small tournaments
that you might not have cared about in the past
so that you get yourself in the habit of winning again?
Yeah, I think there's a, there's a combination of everything there.
You know, when I was, when I finally, after this off season,
I found I was like, okay, all right, I got to, I got to really step it up.
So yeah, I just, the live events I've had to use
just to make sure that, that I'm ready to come into majors.
And that's what you use it for.
You're just using it for reps, right?
At the end of the day, all anybody cares about is majors
and how many majors you got.
You know, I always ask anybody when they talk about it.
It's like, how many, they know how many majors,
Jack Nicholas won, Tiger, Kerry Player, Arnold Palmer,
but they don't know how many events they won total around the world.
So that's the benchmark, right?
Yes.
At the end of the day.
So now how many wins in the regular season did you have?
It's, you know, how many Super Bowl 2 players?
Exactly.
Do you, do you feel different on major week?
Like you, you wake up in the morning and you're like, oh yeah,
I can, my body knows it's major.
I wish, I wish it was that way.
No, I just think, right, there's more energy going on.
There's definitely, there's way more people.
It's a lot more intense and I don't know, you can tell, man,
I love when everyone gets a little rowdy.
Yeah, you recently announced you're having,
you're going to be a father, you're having a baby boy.
Yes, yes, a boy.
And I'm just going to say it out there,
that Blake was definitely thrown around on my side.
Yes, it was definitely thrown around.
Wait, hold on, I understood what you just said there,
because I have thrown out some, I was trying to name one of my sons,
Dion, that got shut down.
But the way you phrase that means that it's not Blake,
because you said it was thrown out on my side.
That means that was a hard block.
Yeah, I don't know how Jenna felt about that one,
but it was blocked.
It was vetoed very quickly.
She's like, I hear enough Blake, I'm not doing this again.
Yes, yes, yes.
So, oh man, but it was funny.
Yeah, so I don't know, we haven't figured out the name yet,
but we're working on it.
Okay, if you win though, if you, if you, if you win a major,
you should be able to be like, I get the name.
You know what?
If I win this week, I'll call her when I'm done with this,
and I'll be like, if I win this week, Blake is definitely on the table.
Yes.
It's Blake and whatever else.
I think that's a fair trade.
Yes, and then you can flip a coin.
Yes, I can do it, we can do it on the show.
Listen, yeah, we'll do it with the lottery ball machine.
I actually, my son was born on Friday,
and we were down between two names,
and I was like, why don't we flip a coin?
And my wife was like, are you fucking serious?
I was like, what?
That'd be funny if we like, hey, you're this name.
Yeah, you're this name because it went tails.
Listen, I'll talk to her.
I'll see what I can do.
I'll tell her after I get the photo of you guys.
Yeah, the first ever Blake reveal.
Pardon my take.
Yeah, I like this.
I like this.
Yeah, the key to naming your children is you got to get the,
you got to anchor the, the negotiations
at the craziest things possible,
because then after childbirth,
newsflash, the woman is pretty tired
because pretty crazy.
And then you could be like, so yeah, maybe just Blake.
And they're like, yeah, maybe Blake.
This is how it works.
This is our negotiation.
I listen, I don't know.
Yeah, I'll take your advice on it.
Yeah, it's like, I said Dion, we could go with Dion,
or we could go with Blake.
Yeah, you could, you could maybe also do anchor it
even further with a much worse name than Blake.
And be like, the two names I was thinking of
was like, I don't know,
what's a bad name?
Bryson.
Bryson.
I was thinking either Bryson or Blake.
And then she'll be like, ew, definitely not Bryson.
Brandy, Brandl.
Yeah, Brandl.
Brandl or Blake.
So are you, are you?
You could throw a lot of names into this lottery.
Yeah, there's a lot of names.
Are you, you and Bryson, you guys,
you guys made amends, right?
Yeah, yeah, we, we talked it out.
We hashed it out.
I think, you know, with all the live stuff,
we kind of had to, had to come together.
So we're good.
And then yeah, I just had,
Brandy's still the same.
I haven't talked to him.
Yeah.
Chambles, yeah, who knows.
Yeah.
So there have been people that have,
have accused us of favoring Max Homa over you.
I just want to make it clear.
We love all of our golf children.
We love them all.
Do you have any relationship with Max?
Yeah, yeah.
Max is a good dude.
I like him.
I mean, obviously I don't want people to see him anymore
with the live and PGA, but he's a good dude.
He's funny.
Okay.
He's good with the Twitter fingers.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's no, there's no jealousy of Max,
because he's been on the show in the last couple of years.
Is there, I just want to make sure that all of our children feel loved.
No, not jealousy.
No, we're good.
We're good.
Okay, okay.
We're still love.
I got you.
I love you.
Remember when you got, what was it,
was it maybe Masters last year when you were injured
and your trainer came out and started like rubbing your leg down and stuff?
That was weird.
Oh yeah, that was, what was that?
I remember that.
I think, yeah, that was a few years ago, wasn't it?
Yeah.
That was, it just struck me because we're used to, you know, we watch sports,
guy gets injured.
It's normal like on a football field or, or, you know, basketball court,
but then when a golfer gets injured and they're like getting worked on,
you're like, what's going on here?
This is weird.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Golfers are a bit weird anyway.
So yeah, that makes sense.
Yeah.
What happened at the Masters when your, your caddy was very clearly just telling,
not the other caddy, but, but the announcing team.
Oh yeah.
What club, what club you chose to hit?
Did you have to be like, Hey, just in the future, make sure that you're clearly
telling the announcers and not the other caddy.
You know what?
It's so funny because if you really, if you watch enough golf, the, there's a bunch
of TV crews running around.
There's, there's a million people inside the ropes and right all the commentators
want to know is what you hit.
So usually there's someone standing right beside you and you got to tell them what
you hit.
Everyone standing on part three is your signal to the guy.
And then they, so they pulled us in on Thursday and then on Friday, I guess
something was going around on Twitter or something.
I didn't see it, but I was trying to take my glove off and they tried to tell me
that I was signaling five to Gary.
And it was interesting.
I was like, I don't know how you want me to take my glove off of my fist closed.
Like what, what would you like me to do?
Right.
So we got pulled in two days in a row and it was funny, the best part about it is
Gary was like, I had no idea you hit five because he was like, he was like a club
in front of me.
He was like, if I knew you hit five, I'd hit six and he'd ended up in the water.
So he lucked out.
Yeah, we don't worry, don't worry about Twitter.
We're policing Twitter.
I was on top.
No, we got.
I was, I was very much on top of it going after people being like, this is ridiculous.
Just a bunch of snitches.
Hey, you got to get in the trenches every once in a while, don't you?
Yeah.
We were in the trenches.
How far, how far do you crush a drive off the tee when you have that like 20, 30
mile an hour wind at your back?
Probably like 350.
That's awesome.
Nice.
Same.
But yeah, that's awesome.
First tee shot today did that one right into the house.
Have you ever, have you ever thought about doing driver off the deck?
No, I can't do that.
I'm, dude, I'd be terrible.
I would look like an average girl.
I would look like everyone else.
No, I did that.
I'd be brutal.
I mean, I look pretty good when I do it.
So I don't know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We got to play.
Yeah, we have to play.
Yeah.
We're, we actually are going to make a, PFT and I are going to make a trip down to Florida
because Hank got to play at Michael Jordan's golf course and we weren't able to do it.
So we're going to just do the two of us going down there.
We probably won't remember there.
When did, when did he play?
Like a week ago.
We had to work.
He had, he got to play golf at Michael Jordan's golf course.
Yeah, he was networking.
He said, yeah, but didn't invite any of the people that I saw on the show.
Yeah, he was working.
He was playing with some actual golf pros that we'd love to have on the show and he
did not get us any.
Well, Hank, you're, you're actually on right now.
Why, why don't you defend yourself?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I didn't want to, uh, it was, you know, the boys were out there playing golf.
I didn't want to, like, if, if you were, if you came out there and some random guy that
you didn't know was like bothering you to come on a podcast, like it would be annoying.
So I didn't want to, I didn't want to annoy him.
It was DJ.
Well, yeah.
It was Dustin Johnson.
He knows what Barstool is.
He knows what part of my take is.
Some podcast.
Yeah.
You're talking about.
He knows.
I just played with him today.
I told him I was coming on here.
Yeah.
He probably was like sick.
I wish someone would invite me.
No, it was, it was, I don't know.
I just didn't want to, I didn't want to overstep.
I didn't want to overstep the boundaries.
It's a great course.
I didn't want to get, you know, I didn't want to get banned forever by being like the guy
that was annoying on the course.
I thought, I thought I was being respectful.
I'm sorry.
Okay.
Yeah.
Sounds like big cat and PFT are coming down to the grill.
Come play with me.
Yes.
Yeah.
Fuck yes.
We are.
Yeah.
It sounds awesome.
I'm, that sounds amazing.
No, you're not coming.
Hey, yeah.
I was going to say, if we're going to fourth, we'll get Caleb to come or something.
Exactly.
Exactly.
That's perfect.
Okay.
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Now that the Florida Panthers are in the conference finals,
we got to ask you about the traffic cone and what was the story behind that?
So it was Italian night and one of my buddies is Italian.
So he asked that we dressed up.
So we had the track suits, the hair slicked back, the chains, everything.
We had it all going.
We tailgated.
And I can't remember for a life of me who they were playing.
But I had the team total under for the other team.
And I can't remember what it was, but Eggblad gave up.
It was like a bad pass.
And the team total over just happened to hit right after that goal.
Scored.
A lot of alcohol, a lot of anger.
Yeah, it wasn't good.
I let him have.
Where did the traffic cone come from?
Were you just bringing a traffic cone in?
I did not bring it in.
No, it was just there.
It was the first thing I saw.
I've been told it's now a Pylon.
Okay.
So I was, I guess, incorrect in my verbiage.
But yeah, I was just, I was so, I was so mad.
I basically lost every bet that game.
And it was just, it was a disaster.
It was great.
And looking at it right now, that's, that's definitely a traffic cone.
I don't know who's telling you it's a Pylon.
That's a traffic cone.
And you said that you were very well hydrated at the game,
which I thought was maybe too high.
No, you can never be too hydrated.
Yeah.
It was Italian night.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah, I was living my best life.
Yeah, you can't judge a man on Italian night.
Otherwise, Rick Bettino would be in jail.
That's true.
Yeah.
Come on.
That's true.
You can't do that.
They also should have had a traffic cone up there for you to grab.
That's entrapment.
Yeah.
That's again, that's anti-Italian discrimination,
as far as I'm concerned.
Yeah.
I was, I was surprised there wasn't more.
I was surprised the P's didn't dog me after screwing up Augusta
with like some kind of Pylon or something.
Oh, yeah.
I would have, I would have.
That would have been great.
Yeah.
They should have dogged me.
Yeah.
Are you rooting for the Panthers?
Yeah, of course, yeah.
OK.
Got the P's.
We got a, we got season tickets, so we'll get a box down there.
Me and my boys will always go down.
It's a load of fun.
Stay well hydrated and have a good time.
All right.
I love it.
I love it.
All right.
Well, Brooks, we will talk to you on Sunday night.
Let's just put it into Sunday night.
Yeah.
Put it out in the, in the orbit.
We'll just, we'll talk to you on Sunday night.
It's going to be great.
You're going to fucking crush it this weekend.
And it was great seeing you.
It's good.
We got to get you in person sometime soon again.
I love it.
I know.
I think I might actually be in New York City here in like a month and a half.
So I'll pop by.
We'll remove the Chicago.
So you'll just have to do it in Chicago.
Ah.
Let's go on.
Yeah.
We come to Chicago in like a month and a half too.
There you go.
There's a lot of golf courses out there.
Let's fucking go.
Easy.
Yeah.
I'll have to give you some lessons.
Yeah.
You should let us caddy for you on one of like the practice rounds.
Yeah.
I think the program days we'll play.
Okay.
Set it up.
Can we, can we do a program where it's, it's like all of us as your am and we just do alternate shot.
Yeah.
We can do whatever we want.
Yeah.
We can go straight.
Golf but louder.
Yes.
Exactly.
All right.
Thanks so much Brooks.
We'll talk to you soon.
All right.
I'll see you boys.
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Dan Rappaport.
And now for something completely different.
Okay we now welcome on a very special guest.
It is our colleague Daniel Rappaport from Foreplay Barstool Sports.
He is a golf writer.
In a former life he was a big J journalist.
He is still that.
He's calling in live from Oak Hill the press tent I believe is what you got going on.
Yeah I believe it's the media center these days or trying to keep up with the time.
So it's the media center.
But yes this is the press.
Okay so you're at the course.
We want to do a PGA championship preview with you live from the course.
Let's start with just a quick backstory for people who don't know you.
If you watched Full Swing you actually saw him on Full Swing.
He was one of the journalists.
But can you give people just a quick like 30 seconds.
Here's who I am and how I got to Barstool.
Yeah 30 seconds.
Huge nerd.
Went to Northwestern like all the rest of the nerds.
Worked at Sports Illustrated.
Just kept being a huge nerd.
Went to Golf Digest.
Got a little bit somewhat less nerdy.
Started doing some cool stuff.
Became friends with the foreplay guys who you guys might think of as nerds.
But are pretty like cool trailblazers in the golf space.
About six months ago they asked me to join and do something new and
make a bunch more money and write less.
So it was like yeah let's do it.
Have you thought about bringing back the thing where people just run
each other over in golf carts?
They were at the bleeding edge of that technology back in 2016.
They were trying to get it shut down.
They were trying to stop a good time.
You know the videos they still hit.
You watch someone get hit full speed with a golf cart
and it's funny every single time.
They always cut right after because you don't know if the guy is like okay
or on the ground.
But when they cut right after it's perfect.
No they're all dead.
Everybody that was in those.
It was multiple homicides in golf courses.
When that whole thing happened it was so perfect because I was like
I don't condone this and I don't want people to do it.
But if you show me the video I will laugh every single time.
It's an undefeated formula.
Running over an unsuspecting friend with a golf cart.
I don't see any downsides to it at all.
You also buried the lead here.
So I mean you were on full swing and people saw you last year.
You're also Matt Fitzpatrick's best friend.
Yeah.
That was my claim to fame for a really long time
was I was the guy who was just always talking about Matt Fitzpatrick.
He became really good which was really good for my career.
So worked out nicely.
That's like Brian Windhorst LeBron.
Or Ahmad Alshad Michael Jordan.
Yeah that's perfect.
You gotta hit yourself to the right wagon.
That's part of life.
So do you like actually from a journalist perspective
do you have to disclose whenever you're writing about him?
Maybe not now at Barstool but in the past would you have to be like
hey we're actually best friends?
Yeah I'd usually try to put in a line like oh we go way back
because we became friends in college you know well before.
I knew he was a hell of a golfer so I'm gonna be lying if I said it wasn't like a
hey I know who you are let's be friends.
But we go way back so yeah I would write something saying
but at Barstool there's really no rules.
And that's something that I'm learning in general at Barstool
is there's just really no rules.
Just make good content and I like it a lot.
So there's one rule.
Yeah there's one rule.
There is one rule.
I think we were all reminded of that last week.
I was actually told that when I signed the contract.
There's about one rule.
No bone thugs.
No bone thugs.
Well crossroads I think crossroads is relatively clean.
Yeah.
But it's we're what day is it today?
It's May 17th this way so you're good.
So I want to talk about the golf course.
Oak Hill in Rochester, south of Buffalo,
western New York seems like a beautiful course.
Can you just give me the reader's digest version of things
because we do root for the golf course
when it comes to major tournaments.
Can you give us some examples of things
that we should be able to look out for,
things that we should be rooting for
when it comes to the course dominating the players this week?
Yeah well the golf course is coming with a new set of tools.
It's been completely redone in 2019 it opened.
It's one of these old courses that opened
in the golden age of golf architecture
which is like the 1920s.
Sky Donald Ross who's a very famous architect built it.
It had been kind of changed throughout the years.
There's a big trend in golf courses these days
where you have new guys, new architects coming in.
They find old plans from the original golf course
and they basically slash down a ton of trees,
build new bunkers and make it look like it did in the 20s.
So this course looks, they had a major in 2013,
the PGA championship here but it's been completely redone.
There's three new holes.
The guys are saying it's very difficult.
The guys are saying the rough is very long.
The bunkers, the fairway bunkers you got to stay out of.
So if you want a rooting for the golf course this week,
which I totally support, I would root for as many balls
as possible to end up in those fairway bunkers
because they are very penal.
Okay so and then how long is this golf course?
Is it longer than normal?
Is it bigger?
Let's talk about the size.
Yeah, the size is sizable for sure.
Major championship golf courses these days
are usually in this kind of 7,300 to 7,600 yards.
This one's not quite as long as like a Shinnecock or a Kiowa
because it's not quite so firm.
It's not late in the summer where it's super baked out.
It's firm but it's not as firm as you might see
like in the British Opens.
The balls won't be rolling quite so far.
So it's not quite as long as the longest ones you've seen
but it's definitely not small.
Sounds like it's long but not girthy.
Right and it gets it out fairly narrow.
It definitely gets the job done.
You know, it's definitely long.
I wouldn't say it's like overwhelming with its size
but it's definitely long and narrow.
Yeah, okay.
It's a good solid golf course.
Growing out of show.
It's like a chill size.
You know what I mean?
It's a chill size.
Boyfriend golf course.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, toss it out there.
Yeah, toss it out.
It's like, listen, you're not going to finish
and be like, wow, that was borderline painful
but it's a chill size.
All right, I like that.
The other big storyline I've been reading a lot about
is to live golfers.
So Phil took some personal time for,
was it the last PGA championship and just said,
I'm going to lay low for the good,
for the benefit of the event
and just kind of take some time off here.
But there's a lot of golfers that at the Masters
from the live tour finished like really, really high.
Like in the top 10, it was just a bunch of live guys
and I know Hank's rooting for the live tour in general.
I'm rooting for the Four Aces and Brooks Kepka
from the live tour.
Which live guy do you think has the best chance
of winning this PGA championship?
Yeah, I love Liv Hank, by the way.
It's a great little bit he's got going on.
I would say Brooks.
I think Brooks is fully back.
I know you guys are big Brooks guys.
Just the way he played at the Masters,
the way he looked at the Masters,
he finally seems to be healthy.
And he's been, he played really solid
in the last three live events leading in.
And Brooks, as you guys know better than anyone,
I think he likes being a little bit of a villain.
I think he likes having a chip on his shoulder.
I think he likes walking off the golf course
and being like, these fucker, everyone doubts me.
You know, everyone thinks I can't do this.
And so I like where he's at big time.
Dustin Johnson won last week.
So those two on the live tour,
so those two would be the guys that I would highlight.
But Brooks is a two time winner of this event.
He's never missed the cut in 10 career PGA championship starts.
He delivers in the majors.
He's got 15 top six finishes
in the major championships in his career.
I think major Brooks is back.
I would not be surprised at all if he won it.
So when you're watching golf now with the live tour,
and you mentioned Dustin Johnson won last week.
How do you translate that to PGA tour success
where it's like, we know John Rom and Scotty Sheffler
have been red hot, have been winning.
I think John Rom won, what is won four times already this year.
Do you count the live,
you can't count the live tours exactly the same as a win.
But like, so how do you, how do you look at that
and see what Dustin Johnson did and be like,
how does that translate to what you expect from him this weekend?
Yeah, it's a great question.
I think the masters went a long way toward answering that question
before we had no idea there was this narrative within golf,
which in hindsight is pretty silly.
That is like, oh, these guys went to live.
They're just maybe they suck now.
Maybe they all suck in like, you know, three months.
They decided though, we've got all the Saudi cash.
We're just going to be on the boat.
We're not practicing anymore.
These guys are competitors.
There's they're still the same players that they were.
The world rankings are no longer a really good indicator
of how a guy's playing.
But there are other ranking systems out there
and I'll give data golf a plug because they're great.
And they do rank live golfers.
So to give you a little bit of comparison here.
So Dustin Johnson in in the official world golf ranking,
give me a second here to search this is.
Yeah, Dustin Johnson in the official world golf ranking
is 82nd.
OK, because they don't get points in the live events.
He's 19th in the data golf rankings.
Oh, so there's different there's different ways
that you can look at it that do factor in.
Look, they're still really good players.
There's only 48 of them in the bottom half are not good.
There are a lot of very bad players on live.
But if you're winning live events, you're still beating guys
who a month ago, you're free of the top six.
As you guys mentioned of the Masters were live guys.
So I view it as you know, they're winning golf tournaments.
They're confident.
They're checking all the boxes coming into it.
And there's no reason that a live guy can't win a major,
which would be very, very dramatic.
So OK, so that's a great answer.
It's good to know because I do see like,
oh, yeah, Dustin Johnson once like, well, does that really
count as a win?
How are we judging this?
Who are competing this weekend?
Who has the best game for this specific golf course?
Yeah, it's hard because, you know, with these majors
that aren't Augusta, they change every year.
So the first three days is really learning the golf course.
We don't have, you know, a PJ Tour events.
You can look back, OK, for the last five years at Riviera,
you know, this guy has played well or this is these are the stats.
We don't really have anything, especially because this golf course,
the last time they had a major was 10 years ago
and it was a completely different golf course.
But it seems to be a place where you've got to be very disciplined.
You know, there's not going to be a ton of birdies.
It's not going to be hitting a lot of balls close.
It's going to be a lot of playing to the middle of the green,
two-putting and kind of playing that discipline,
ruthless, unemotional style.
The guy who I really like this week,
who would be a bit of a snoozer champion is Patrick Cantley.
I feel like this, yeah, I know you guys didn't want to hear that,
but still Tigers caddy and I feel like he's going to win his first major this week.
So, all right.
So I actually had two Patrick Cantley questions that I wanted to ask you.
One is the pace of play.
What is the PGA tour going to do about it?
Because it's bullshit.
He is maddening to watch.
And the second was if you could maybe expound on what his Joe Cava,
Tigers old caddy,
what that actually does for Patrick Cantley,
is it a huge advantage?
So the first question is the PGA tour will probably do nothing
because they have a competitor right now
and they just can't be in the business of pissing off their own players.
And they just aren't,
I think they're going to go for the path of least resistance.
It's maddening to watch.
I totally agree.
The players themselves are frustrated, but the ratings are up.
And at the end of the day, if the ratings are up,
the PGA tour can say, you know what?
That doesn't really seem like a big problem.
You know, in baseball, there's one ball in place.
So if the game is slow, you got nowhere else to turn.
In golf, they can at least show a bunch of different shots
and switch away from Patrick Cantley and switch back
and then switch away and switch back.
And he probably still wouldn't have hit yet.
He is very slow,
but I don't think anything's going to change
because the business is in a good spot
and they don't want to piss off players.
As far as a new caddy,
you know, guys, when they're struggling,
often go for a new caddy
because it's more just kind of a new voice.
Think about if you had someone walking with you
when you worked all week
and your product was kind of shitty.
Your tweets weren't doing so hot.
Your videos weren't doing well.
And you're like, you know what?
It's not really personal.
I just kind of want someone else behind me
because we're sucking right now.
So it's Patrick Cantley brought in the Joe Locado
who is not just caddy for Tiger Woods.
He caddy for Dustin Johnson.
He caddy for Fred Couples.
He's been around.
I think it's a sort of a reminder to himself
that this guy who has been Tiger Woods
as caddy believes in him.
And I was talking to a few other guys
who think it might be really good for Patrick
because Joe Locado is a bit of an alpha personality.
And when Patrick's playing slow,
I think there are some guys who are hoping
that Joe's going to be like, hey, pick it up, kid.
Like, pick it up.
I'm Tiger's caddy.
I'm not afraid to tell you this.
Pick it up.
Yeah. What about players?
You mentioned baseball.
Why don't the players take matters into their own hands?
Like the unwritten rules being violated.
And if Cantley's taken too long in the fairway,
just hit some drives into him.
Don't yell for.
Yeah. No, you do see guys.
Golf's version of that is kind of rolling your eyes.
And you'll see a bunch of guys roll their eyes,
which in golf is basically like, you know,
sending a dagger on someone's back.
But you guys are annoyed for sure.
But playing slow is part of tournament golf.
It's never really been fast out here.
It's more just there are more cameras now
and someone can get a video and put it on Twitter
and everyone sees that he's taken a really long time.
But slow play is nothing new.
And as much as we complain about it,
I just don't think anything's going to change,
give and live and given that the business
is in a pretty good spot.
It is the most passive aggressive sport.
It is. It is crazy.
Is there a penalty on the books?
If Brooks at the Masters had like been like,
Jesus Christ, this guy's taken six minutes to hit a shot,
bombed a drive, put it right in Cantley's ribs
and just like, you know, brushed him back a little bit.
Is there a penalty that can be enforced on Brooks?
I don't think I don't think there is a penalty
for hitting someone else.
I think, you know, it's definitely frowned upon.
There's a penalty on the books for slow play.
You're technically only supposed to get 45 seconds
to hit your shot.
But if you watch golf, that never happens.
And the only slow play penalty
that I can ever remember them handing out is,
I don't know if you guys remember this,
they handed it out to a 14 year old guy
in the Masters named Tin Lang Guan.
And that was, they chose to make an example
out of the 14 year old for slow play.
And that's it.
So yeah, they don't get penalized.
And they just, you know, they're going to,
I don't blame the players.
They're going to do what they feel like makes them play better.
And for them, playing slow makes them play better.
It's the tour's fault for not enforcing it.
You know what it means?
We should get into the fake news business.
Let's make a super cut of Patrick Cantley
and just like stitch together every single second of him
not hitting a shot and be like,
look how long it took him to hit this one shot
and have it be like two and a half minutes.
No, yeah, we should do the,
there's that famous clip of Jose Altuve
hitting a inside the park home run.
And they were like showing
when pitch clock was coming along,
they were showing how many times he,
he went around the bases between a pitch.
We should do a Jose Altuve,
how many home runs did he hit
between Patrick Cantley hitting a shot?
Yeah, but then have it be like two minutes.
Yeah.
Like really, really select some, some good.
15 inside the park home run.
Maybe do some in slow mo.
Yeah.
There is some like movement
because obviously baseball has instituted the shot clock
and I think, or the pitch clock.
And I think it's been a big success.
There has been some murmurs.
Why don't we do that in golf?
Which I think would be objectively hilarious
if at the end of the pitch clock, it just went,
yeah, yeah.
Like if the guy's in the middle of his back swing,
it's like, well, we gave you, we gave you 45 seconds.
I do like the idea of drilling someone,
but it also is fun that,
that I never really thought about it,
but golf, like instead of, you know, brushing a guy back,
it's just you have to sigh when you see him.
And then they sigh back.
Sigh when you like point to your watch.
Yeah.
Like sometimes if they'll look at the camera
and point, I think Brooks did that a couple of years ago.
And you know, that was, that was big time on our sport.
That was, that was throwing someone's head.
Yes.
That was throwing a 99 mile an hour fastball
at someone's head.
So it's pointing at the watch.
Looking at a watch.
Okay. So, John Rahman, Scotty Schaeffler.
John Rahman has been fantastic.
Is, does it really feel like they are separated
from everyone else by that big of a margin?
Yes. I would say yes.
There was Rory was kind of the number three for a little while,
but Rory missed the cut at the Masters.
He missed the cut at the players championship.
He seems, we just had his press conference an hour ago.
He's done talking about live golf.
He, you know, he was the guy who was at the podium
answering all the questions,
talking about how the PJ tour is about legacy and about history
and how he was so proud to carry the tour into the future.
And we just asked him, you know, are basically,
are you going to stop talking about it?
He's like, yeah, I'm done talking about it
because I think it's, it's worn on him a lot over the last year,
trying to be one of the best players in the world
and also being in all the meetings
and giving all these press conferences and, you know,
he reads everything.
So seeing all the negativity on social media, you know,
Rory's kind of taken a step back.
But yeah, I mean, Scotty's got three wins this year.
Rom's got four, including the Masters.
I think a win this week, John Rom would have five wins already this year.
He'd have won the first two majors.
He'll be three quarters of the way to the career grand slam.
And, you know, I do think that those two have separated themselves,
but I think it's also, I think Rom is the clear number one right now.
I think Rom is clear number one.
Scotty is clear number two.
And then there's a big gap between everyone else.
Counterpoint though, didn't Tony Finau just stare down John Rom in Mexico?
Yeah, he did at the Mexico Open at Vidanta,
which was like a resort course.
Yes, he did.
I don't think that that's, you know, it's basically a different sport
from major championship golf.
But yeah, Tony's turned into a winner after, after like seven years
of why does this guy never win?
I think he's won five in the last like 20 months.
So Finau is definitely playing at a top five level this year.
I also saw a quote that was going around regarding Rory McElroy,
that if you're not, you can't root for Tiger
because he's not playing this weekend.
However, Tiger saw Rory playing at Quill Hollow and called him and was like,
hey, I see something in your swing.
And then Rory spent last Friday at Tiger's house
getting coached up to fix his swings.
Is that true?
I believe that is true.
That was reported by Amon Lynch who's Northern Irish.
She's, you know, compiles with Rory.
It's kind of a frowned upon thing as you, as you guys might know
in golf to give unsolicited swing advice.
That's the only thing that ever happens on the internet though.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You post your swing and everyone's like, oh, this is not the other,
or you're playing golf and some guy comes up to you and goes, you know,
I really think you should slow it down and you want to kill that guy.
I think Tiger Woods reaches out to you and says,
there's something that I'm seeing.
Maybe just maybe like you'd violate that rule and listen to him.
No, that's a beta move.
It would ruin it.
If Tiger wants to fix my swing, I decline.
It would ruin all of my private teaching.
Yeah.
No, no, no, no.
I'll never let another man teach me.
I don't think Brooks would have gone over there.
I'll never let another man teach me how to call.
Yeah.
I don't think Brooks would have gone over there.
I think Brooks would have said, all right, thank you.
Thank you for your advice, but I'm not doing it.
But Rory, you know, these guys like worship Tiger.
He's the reason they're so rich.
So anything Tiger says they is like gospel.
OK, so while we're talking about Tiger,
we are the number one Charlie Woods podcast.
He's listening to this right now.
No pressure.
Is he going to be a pro?
I'll say yes.
I think he will.
He will be a pro.
You know, being a pro in golf is not that difficult.
You guys could say that you're a pro tomorrow.
There's no draft.
Anyone can become a professional golfer.
But the spirit of the question obviously being, will he?
Yeah, I think he'll make a run.
I mean, all signs point to him being definitely like a division one level
player, and he'll get a chance.
He'll definitely get sponsored and bites.
That's for sure.
You know, it will definitely be a tournament that says we're going to
we're going to have Charlie Woods playing it.
So if he wants to, if he continues to want it, like he says he does,
there was a video that dropped last week with Tiger was talking to Colin
Morikawa about how Charlie is kind of starting to hit it past him now.
I don't think he's beaten him yet over 18 holes,
but he's getting there.
He's still not 14 years old yet.
So as long as he continues to have this golf bug and as long as Tiger's out for a while
and Charlie is kind of it seems like he's almost living vicariously through Charlie.
I do think Charlie will be a pro.
The torch has been passed.
I could not believe it when I saw that head cover.
I texted the guy who was chatting from that week.
I was like, oh, so is that he's like, yeah, he's an enormous fan.
He listens to every single episode.
Yeah, you broke that for us.
We should say thank you.
A belated thank you.
You broke that story.
We are the number one Charlie Woods podcast.
It does sound like you're a little bit a tiny bit of a Charlie hater.
Yeah, you said he could be a division one golfer.
And he also said like, oh, he'll get some sponsor exemptions and shit.
It sounds like you don't really believe in Charlie.
I think that Charlie can go as high as he wants to.
You think Charlie will be number one in the world?
Yeah.
Minimum.
Yeah.
Our golf rankings, data golf, PMT golf.
We have Charlie Woods number one, John Rom too.
Number one in the universe is more like it for Charlie.
Forget the world.
I guess in my old job, I was kind of wary about not trying to put pressure on kids,
but if it's screw it, right?
And he's going to be number one in the world.
No, we're not putting pressure on him because whatever he does,
this is our promise to Charlie Woods again, who's listening right now.
We will spin zone it as a win.
So even if he doesn't make it to the PGA tour, we'll be like, yeah.
He realized that it wasn't enough competition for him.
Yeah.
I think you guys need to show up to his first college event
and just heckle all the other kids.
Yes.
Well, like you said, golf is easy, right?
Anybody can go pro.
Like if Charlie could go pro and we're going to root for him.
But if Charlie decides that he wants to do something else with his life,
we're going to support him no matter what.
We care about Charlie Woods the person in addition to Charlie Woods the golfer.
Yeah.
So he'll be number one in the world in whatever pursuit that he ends up wanting to fulfill.
He's a winner.
It's honestly weird, though, that you're putting all this pressure on Charlie
to become a division one golfer.
Right.
I think that Charlie is great no matter what he decides to do.
Okay.
Yeah.
He'll go pro in the game of life.
Yeah.
Correct.
He'll work in enterprise.
Yeah.
That's right.
Yeah.
That's right.
Number one employer of D1 athletes.
Yes.
Okay.
We got to talk about our friend Max Homa.
So some people, not us, but some people are saying
when is Max going to make a run in a major?
Again, not us.
What would you say to those people?
Yeah.
To those people, I would say you're asking a very fair question because,
you know, it's not just that he wins PGA Tour events,
but he does it on hard golf courses.
He's won at Riviera, which is hosted majors in the past.
We'll probably host majors in the future.
He's won at Quail Hollow, which hosts President's Cup and majors in the past.
He's won at Torrey Pines where, you know, Tiger won.
And then he comes to the majors and I still,
I think his best finish is a T14 last year.
It doesn't really make sense.
You would want to say that it's some sort of mental block,
but Max is too smart and too good at the mental side of golf for it to be a thing.
So it's going to happen one of these weeks.
You know, it's a small sample size.
You only get four chances per year.
Max sucked until like three years ago.
So he's really only had eight to 12 chances where he's playing like this.
But if it continues after this year, I think we get to the point of like,
do we need to do some sort of voodoo ritual to snap him out of this?
Because he's too good of a player and his record is too good at hard golf courses
to continue to be so barren at the majors.
So what's the success for him this weekend?
Top 10.
Top 10.
Top 10.
I mean, what is he, number six or seven in the world?
You know, at a certain point, you got to perform where your rankings says you are.
You know, making the cut is no longer a success for Max Oman, a major championship.
He's, he's just not that guy anymore.
He's, you know, he's playing, I just saw him playing a practice round with Justin Thomas.
Like that's, he's A-list.
He's an A-lister in golf right now.
And if you're going to be a true A-lister, you have to deliver on the four weeks where
guys like me are coming on podcasts like this and people actually care.
You said to yourself, maybe Max is too smart.
Maybe, maybe he, like his brain works at a level where he does
start to second guess him.
So maybe he just needs to get dumber.
We got to concuss him.
Or he's got to smoke a lot of weed.
We got to concuss him and smoke some weed.
It's not a crazy thought.
Like I've always thought that being really smart and cerebral in golf is not a benefit.
That's why I stopped.
Some of the best players in the world.
Yeah. Some of the best players in the world.
I think there was a shameless plug for full swing,
but there was a moment in full swing where Brooks Kepke was like,
all right, who's playing the best in the world right now?
Scotty Scheffler.
I bet you Scotty Scheffler is not thinking about anything.
And then they pan to Scotty Scheffler and he's like,
yeah, you know, I'm just like out there playing golf.
There's so many things that can go wrong in golf.
There's so many factors to consider that if you're sitting there and you're thinking about
this, that and the other, it can be paralyzing.
And you watch guys like bubble Watson or Dustin Johnson, they're like,
I'm just going to go up there and hit my fucking cut and hope it goes in the fairway.
That's a great attitude to have.
Yeah, I would agree.
I would say that golfers and like kickers in football,
you want your kicker to be dumb as shit so that they don't overthink anything.
Now, it's interesting because you were saying that Max sucked until three years ago.
I wouldn't use that word, but in golf journalism, I would.
I feel like every golf, every golf writer or anybody that covers the sport is also a golfer
themselves. It's a little bit different from other sports.
So is it harder for you to criticize players because you play the sport and you realize
how much better than you they are at the sport that you love to play?
Sort of. I'm a decent player, which I think helps.
And I think having played on camera, these guys know that I'm a decent player.
I definitely think that there are some people in this room.
I won't name names.
I'm looking right at them, but I won't name names who don't play golf at all,
can't break 100. And then they, they get up there and they talk about, you know,
what a guy needs to do to win a major, which I think is, you know, it's a, it's sort of laughable.
But yeah, it is definitely a different, a different aspect.
And I think it's one of the reasons why so many of the announcers,
the guys like smiley Kauffman, guys like Colt Nose are former players because
definitely professional golfers respect guys who can actually, you know,
break 100. I think that's kind of a
Was it Brandon Lachamble?
Was it Frank the Tank?
No, I love Frank the Tank. I'm obsessed with Frank the Tank.
Yeah, he's a lot of three size, any athlete.
Yes. He was calling, who's he calling, Vogel back? He was like, fat fuck.
Yeah, I don't know. I, I, I'm not going to say who I'm staring at.
Brandon Lachambley won a PJ Tour event. People forget that.
I certainly didn't. I will remain forgetting that.
Yes, he did. I will remember that forever.
It wasn't a big one. It wasn't a big one. It was pre-live era,
but it was, he won a PJ Tour event.
So asterisks. Yeah.
Okay. So give us a long shot. Give us a couple of long shots.
Yeah. Ricky Fowler is back in the mix. Ricky's, Ricky's back in the top 50.
I think he's been in top 20. I believe it's like nine of his last 10 starts.
So he's quietly working his way back there. I really like the way he's playing.
I really like the way he's putting, he went back to his old swing coach,
Butch Harmon, who's a very famous swing coach, worked with Tiger Woods and
Phil Mickelson and their heydays. So I like him a lot. And then this is, you know, not,
I wouldn't say necessarily a long shot, but Jason Day, who won last week.
These are some names that probably bring you guys back to like 2015, 2016.
But he's having a resurgence as well. He won last week.
He's putting the ball unbelievably well. And he's finally got his vertigo under control.
His back's not hurting him. You know, people forget, but in 2016, Jason Day was
had a historically great year. His ceiling is very high. So two guys that are,
you know, sort of outside the top five favorites, I would say Ricky Fowler and Jason Day.
Interesting. Okay. What happened with Ricky? If you were to put a label on why Ricky's game
broke down, because he was, you know, Ryder Cup, he was, he was in that group of the next guys to
kind of take golf into the next generation. And then he kind of fell off for a few years.
What's, what's been the problem with him? And do you think he's fixed it?
Yeah. His putting used to be his strength. He worked so much on his swing changes throughout
the years, trying to, we don't want to get too super technical. He was trying to get the club
a lot more up and like kind of a less behind him. And he was working so much on that,
that his putting went really poorly. And then, you know, with Ricky, it's hard not to address the
fact that he does about 30 sponsor days a year, where he's filming commercials and he's out there
with people. You know, I don't know that that caused his downfall, but he's always been a guy
who's had a lot of interest outside of golf and has done a lot of commercials and a lot of other
things. You know, and maybe when you're struggling, it's harder when you're, you know, a 10th of the
year you're out there. Yeah. Like Baker Mayfield shoulders. Yeah. With like Mercedes Benz. But
you know, he's back now. I think, I think he realizes that he's, those, those deals are going
to dry up unless he continues to play good golf. So golf seems to be the focus again,
and he's playing really nicely. Okay. This has been great, Dan. I got one last question.
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PJ championship has finished. What is the story that would shock you the most coming out of Sunday
night? Give us a headline. Live golfers dance on 18th green with Greg Norman in triumph.
Okay. Broke's cap. That was shirtless, Greg Norman.
Okay. Yeah, there was, there was some, there was some talk that they were all going to party on
the 18th green. If one of them won the masters, which would have been really funny watching them
try to navigate through an army of green jackets who would have formed a physical barrier because
they were not about to let that moment be taken from them. But the PJ championship is a little
loosey-goosey. I wonder if, you know, Phil's not making a run. If, if Greg's not up there,
you know, shirtless hootlin' hollerin' on the 18th green. I would love that. That'd be,
I mean, golf needs something like that. They, rivalry is good. Like if you look back at the
wrestling, the Monday night wars of the late nineties, having a rival league that it's,
it's going to be both, it's going to be good for both the PGA and for the live tour.
The ratings are up on the PGA tour. Golf's never been hotter. The players always ask us,
why do we talk about live so much? It's like, well, cause it's great for business. It's been
amazing for us. We, you know, it's boring to talk about birdies and bogies, but you get to talk
about Saudis and loyalty and betrayal and bribery. And it's just a completely different thing that's
been a wild ride for two years. Yeah. My last question, are you, are you dimplehead like us?
Do you look, you, you wake up early in the morning and you see where the pin placement's going to
be? Are they going to put that graphic out for us? And if they do, what's the one pin placement
that you've got your eye on, on a particular hole? Like on Sunday, if the pins here, you better look
out. Yeah. Back left pin on the par three, I believe it's 15. If it gets firm and baked out,
it's going to be a disaster, not a disaster, but it will be, there'll be some drama on that hole.
I forgot to ask, what's, what's the hardest hole in the course?
I would say probably 18. Okay. 18 is a bear up the hill. Kind of similar. It honestly reminds
me a little bit of, of the 18th hole last year at Southern Hills. If you remember,
Mido Pereira had a lot of trouble with that hole. So yeah, you're going to have to make a really
good four at the last probably to win the tournament. So 18, I would say is the toughest.
Okay. I like that. I like that. I love whenever like it gets a little bit tougher. So then you
can have guys maybe hang around a little bit more who are in the clubhouse with a score and be like,
well, they got to get through this. That, that makes for a great, great theater on some point.
They have to watch the tiny TV, like the R. Kelly size TV.
But it's not like, cause some courses, you know, it gets easier and it's like, well,
they'll just pick up a few, you know, strokes right here. But if it's, if it's a gauntlet down
the stretch, that, that always makes it fun on Sunday. I think it's fun when birdies matter.
I mean, JT was seven back last year and came back to win. That doesn't, like you said, that
doesn't happen on a pillow soft golf course where everyone's shooting six under. So I like a little
bit of variance as well. Birdies matters this year. I like it. That's a good matter. All right.
Well, Dan, thank you so much. Also, congratulations on finally saying hi to me when you saw me in
the neighborhood. I didn't say congratulations on your newborn though. I just said hello.
Yeah. You just said hello. Well, I think it might have been before, but yeah, he,
Dan lives like a block away from me and there's been a couple of times where I've seen him and
he just keeps walking because he's like, I don't want to bother him. It's like, dude, we work
together. So he finally, he finally mustered up the courage to be like, Hey, what's up? And I was
like, Hey, what's up? And I said it. I was like, I made a point. I was like, Hey, hey, like I was
saying hello. So it was nice. So it's good. So we've taken our relationship to the next level
where we can actually say hello to each other on the street. It's nice. It's a big step. Yeah.
All right, man. Thanks so much. Everyone follow him all weekend. He'll be at the course
and appreciate you coming on. Thanks guys.
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Foreman, the movie that we had a sponsorship with a couple of weeks ago. I said, I have to see that
movie. I saw it as a preview when I saw air a couple of months ago or a month ago. I was like,
I have to see this. I love boxing. I love boxing movies. We watched it. It did not disappoint.
Big, big George Foreman. I mean, it seriously is one of the craziest stories that I don't think
gets talked about enough that George Foreman had a legendary championship career, then retired,
then came back and it in like his mid forties got back to the top. It's crazy. Yeah, he was 45.
He was 45 years old and won the heavyweight champion of the world. Pretty crazy stuff. Also
all time grill salesman guy. I love the George Foreman grill. George Foreman. He sold so many
grills. I bet you he sold billions of dollars worth of grills. So I saw shout out trunk T fan who
does great Twitter threads all the time about business and everything. So they launched it in
1994, the George Foreman grill, and it was doing $200 million a year by 1998. George Foreman was
getting paid so much. He said he was getting paid eight million upwards of $8 million a month
for royalty fees. His royalty fees were so crazy that George Foreman, the grill makers had to buy
him out for a lump sum for $138 million in 1999. A lot of money. I love that. Well, my favorite part
of going to college was getting a George Foreman grill in my dorm. If you had one of those in your
dorm room, you were a king. You can grill out in your room. George was a legend. Also is a legend.
Also, one of the best parts about the George Foreman grill, they actually offered it to
Hulk Hogan and he just he decided to do a meatball maker instead. Oh, yeah. So talk about sliding
doors. But back to this movie. Awesome movie. Boxing movies are the best. The Ali scenes were
incredible. Rumble in the jungle. I'm like iconic, iconic stuff. My biggest takeaway was like he's
basically the forced gump of boxing. Yeah, it was like the beginning of his career was Ali and Joe
Frazier. And then the end of his career was Holyfield. And he thought at one point that he was
going to be fighting Mike Tyson, which is just an insane, insane lapse of type. That is such a
big time period. The fact that he was prime time winning championships against Joe Frazier and then
was, you know, fighting a Vander Holyfield almost beat him and then was, you know, talking about
just the fact that he was even talking about potentially fighting Mike Tyson. That seems
like 100 years difference. And don't forget the 1968 Olympics and winning the Olympic gold. And
like, you know, he got, he showed in the movie holding up the American flag because there was
protests in that Olympics. But yeah, you're right. That's a perfect way to put it. He was
the forced gump of boxing, just spanning decades and being fantastic. And his, the way he boxed,
the fact that he had that punch, I was actually thinking about it because oftentimes when I think
about like historical sporting events, I'm like, who would I have bet on? Because I think Ali was
like a three or four to one underdog in the rumble in the jungle. I definitely would have been on
George Foreman because I've been like, how could, like his punches are so strong. He's so much bigger.
He's so much bigger. He and I would have, I would have been like, we're winning this fight as Ali's
doing rope. Yeah. Oh yeah. You would have considered that to be like a bad beat, even though in
retrospect, it was just a strategy that paid off big time. I would have been live lining it. Yeah.
George Foreman minus a thousand. Easy. Double down, double down. Ali kicking off the ropes.
He was 76 and five in his career record. That's crazy. It's insane that he had 81 career fights
in a boxing ring. Also classic. That was, you know, in the movie when they were talking to
his, the guy that he trusted to do his investments. And he was like, how are the investments going?
And the guy was like, oh, they're in super safe stocks. That you knew was going to be wrong.
And then later in the movie, it's like, you know, can I get the money? They're like,
the money's all gone. They're all high risk gambles. And they all, they're all, it's all gone.
He's 74 right now. He could still kick my ass for sure. Oh, dude, that punch, the way the power
in his punch is fucking insane. But yeah, this movie was awesome. Any sports movie, boxing movie,
the best recreating like legendary fights. So check it out. Big George Foreman. It's in,
you can rent it or buy it. And it's also in theaters. Big George Foreman. Yeah. What's he
doing for that? No, no. By the way, before we do guys on chicks, Max had a hell of a day yesterday.
People were coming at him online. People were making a lot of comments. He looks like this guy.
He looks like that guy. I did screenshot one comment that I wanted to share because it was
very funny. I got one too. I got a great one from the Instagram. Yeah. Oh, it might be the same one.
Let's bring them all out. So this person said, shout out Brett Henig. He said,
Max looks like an insanely passionate American sushi chef who left his family to be in Tokyo,
failed and came back with nothing. Oh, so good. Just nailed it. I gotta say, Max,
it's grown on me a little bit. Yeah, it's not as bad as it was yesterday. I like the people that
said Max, I think it was like the YouTube comment was like, Max looks both terrifying and he
but pulls it off at the same time. Yeah. Yeah. It kind of looks natural on you. And when you
put your hair down, you kind of look like a troll doll. Remember those troll dolls? That looks nice.
Yeah. That sounds nice. Yeah. We have Max's Pawn Shop merch available now. I don't know if you
guys saw those shirts. They're probably sold out by now. Max is like, we don't get so any of them.
I was like, not with that ads. You look like Jay and Silent Bob at the same time.
It's great. It's great. It was, listen. Do you want to talk about the setup? Sadness sells.
What? What you did to them? Oh, tune into PMTV. So people saw the photo shoot pictures.
Tune into PMTV. You heard Max bitching about the photo shoot on Sunday night. Badmouthing
our merch team. I defended them because maybe I knew a little more than he knew at that moment.
But yeah, PMTV has the photo shoot. Thank God we did the photo shoot. Those pictures were
incredible. Thank God. I was actually thinking the same thing. Thank God. Imagine if those
pictures didn't exist. That was a productive photo shoot.
Father's Day merch coming on sale soon. Thursday, 10 a.m., I believe.
SortupArstlesports.com. There you go, Jake. Yeah. That's why we did it. That's exactly why
it happened. That was why it was productive. I saw one photo shop that I didn't care for
particularly and that's just somebody took the sole patch on the bottom lip and they just moved
it to the top lip and it is a wide sole patch and it looks like the H-man. You got an upside down
H-man on the face. So do you. That's true. Now, what's more concerning is just people that I've had
a couple of people that don't even realize that I have a sole patch until after they talk to you
for like 15 seconds. No, no, I shaved. We told you that was going to happen. Yeah. So I was talking
to KB outside. I talked to him for like four minutes and he's like, oh yeah, you got the sole
patch just looks so natural on you that I didn't even think and that's concerning to me. Yeah.
I want to say I would have been as good of a sport, but I wouldn't have been. No, Max has been a
great sport and he has. I love him. We're sole brothers, Max. Yeah, he's just had a really bad
stretch of sports sadness that we've been able to monetize greatly. I also think the sole patch
bet is going to stick like we'll have to do another one at some point. Who do you guys have on your
Mount Rushmore of sole patch havers? Max has got to be on there right now. I would say
Howie Mandel. Howie Mandel. Mark McGrath from Sugar Ray. Scott Stapp. Yeah, Scott Stapp from Creed.
Now Guy Fieri has the bleach sole patch. Yeah. But he's also got the goatee that goes along with it.
Yeah. Just one of those days. Oh, Fred Durst. Fred Durst. Yeah, Fred Durst is up there. Yeah.
It's been great. It's been great. And Max went to the gym, so he's looking better.
Yeah, you look great, Max. He's shaking his head. What's the room? What's your girlfriend's roommate
thing? I hate everybody. I hate everyone in this room. People like the episode, Max. The numbers
were crazy. Yep. You're a numbies guy. You're a numbies guy. Yeah. One thing about Max. Almost
got the 10K on Instagram. Let's go. There we go. Everyone follow him. What's your Instagram handle?
CM Delente. That's my first name. It's like punk except Delente. Yeah.
Yeah, that's what I was going for. I would have to think the probably the two biggest episodes
we've done in the past six months or post Super Bowl. Yeah. His sadness, we have, we basically are
using it as a renewable energy source. Max's sadness. We've channelled Philly's losses.
We're Bitcoin mining with Max's losses. All right, guys on chicks. Hey boys, my husband doesn't put
on deodorant before working out. For context, he works out alone at home in the morning and then
just showers right after. Okay. Yeah. I find it weird that he doesn't put on any deodorant beforehand,
but he explains he's still going to sweat and just shower right after. So it's a waste of deodorant.
Facts. Facts. Facts. I find this weird again, since I put on deodorant no matter when or where
I'm working out. Is it just a normal guy thing or am I on the right? Also, congrats to Hank on
the lottery ball. Some people graduate college and the amount of time it took him to correctly
pick one number, but congrats still. That's true. Not a sense of Bennett. Also, this girl's a
helicopter girlfriend. Yeah. Who cares when your boyfriend puts on deodorant as long as he
doesn't smell bad. Yeah. We won't get into the conversation about how soap doesn't work on
armpits. Also, deodorant's trying to poison us, right? Fresh sweat cleans it out. Well, soap
doesn't work on armpits, but as long as you put on deodorant after you shower, who cares?
I said, we're not going to get into that. But yeah, I agree. Because if we did, we'd just go
around in circles again. I think- Why doesn't anyone dunk from the freezer? This guy, this guy
is an idiot or this girl is an idiot because you don't, nobody puts on deodorant just to work out
by themselves. If you go to the gym, I can see maybe being a good gym citizen. You might not
want to stink it up in front. Maybe, but I would also understand not putting on, it's like you
don't brush your teeth before you drink orange juice, right? That's like putting on deodorant
before you work out. It's actually, if he were to put on deodorant before going to a gym, I know
you said a home gym, but say he was going to a gym, that would be a sign he's cheating on you.
Yeah. Yeah. Why are you putting on deodorant before you're going to get sweaty? Yep. I also
just think that, that level of monitoring on deodorant is just too much. Yeah. Let the guy
live. Too much. Agreed. Your buzz kill. My fiance never wants to pee with the bathroom door open.
He thinks that's a sacred time only for him. However, he feels completely comfortable taking
a dump with the door open for me to see. He even does it when his guy friends are over and even
when my best friend is over. I feel like that's really weird. That is. Thoughts PMT crew. He
pees with his, uh, he pulls down his pants all the way away. He's one of those guys. That is weird
to do one or the other. Judd to Playboy Marty. I think he did that in the bathroom here the other
day. It was wild walking too. Like just not even joking. Just ass was out. It was, it was, it was
like after one of the streams. So it was late night and I'm blowing up his spot, but it was,
I, I got a chuckle out of it. Yeah. Didn't say anything to him after. I'm just saying it now.
It always plays on the podcast. It's always a laugh out loud thing when you see a grown man.
It's incredible. It was like, it was late. It was like midnight. I don't think he, you know,
it was probably five people here total. When I was walking in the bathroom,
just chinks out. Pants on the floor. No pants. Like kind of, you know, pushing the booty up,
like just, just as, you know, right below the ass. It would have been funny if he had,
if he had like pants on the floor and then he was doing things where he's like also holding his
shirt. Yeah. That's how my son did. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm gonna start doing that. That's weird to
do the close the door for the P and not for the shit. One nice thing about having kids is I don't
think I've taken a shit in my house without at least one of my kids trying to have a full
conversation, six inches from my face. Yeah. That's fun. That's really fun. There's something
wrong with this guy, I think. Yeah. This is, this is strange behavior. Yeah. Yeah. Something,
he's doing something weird. What if he, what if he thought he could only pee if he, like,
if he jerked off? He had to get hard to pee. Maybe that's it. Or maybe he's, yeah, he's probably
doing something in the bathroom that he shouldn't be doing when he, when he allegedly pees. He's
putting his finger up his butt. Maybe put his finger up his butt. Maybe using drug,
maybe he's using heroin when he says that he's peeing. You should ask him that. Yeah. Check his
arms. This is a good one. Suplottery ball winners minus memes. Damn. That hurts. My boyfriend
is not got it. Never. Ever. He tried to say he got it before. Like, anyone that says that,
none of them counts. Yeah. Well, they did. Yeah. Okay. My boyfriend and I have one year have,
both have weddings we are invited to on the same day. My boyfriend is his old roommate slash
former boss and mine is a childhood friend. Yeah. How do we handle the situation? This is the easiest
question ever. You both go to your weddings and have the best time ever without your girlfriend
or boyfriend. Yeah. Like, if you're in a relationship and then you start going a bunch
of weddings, there's definitely a point where you're like, Oh, it'd be nice if like, I just
get fucked up without anyone being like, Hey, why are you all fucked up? Like, go have fun at this
wedding. It's perfect. It's also weird that his former roommate was also his boss. Yeah. That's
a, that's a startup situation. That's like if Billy lived with Jake. Mm hmm. Be tough.
That's like what I co signed. Hank's lease. He was my boss. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. That was awkward,
wasn't it? That was really awkward to have an employee. Yeah. I think going to separate weddings
is kind of the dream. Yes. You go to a lot. You guys should actually get two dates and just take
a night off. But no, seriously, you're going to end up going to a million weddings. They all are
the exact same. That's the thing with weddings. Once you start going to them and you get in your
wedding like late twenties, early thirties, and you start going to all these weddings and they
all just blend together, this one will stick out. Yeah. Really, from the time you're 25 until 35,
all of your discretionary income is spent going to weddings. Yes. Might as well have some fun.
Just summers, weddings. Is that it? That's it. Okay. Lottery ball. So we got, we got some updates,
right, Jake? We got to go through. Yeah, I have to file through, but we had a lot of AWLs. Thanks
for reaching out. We'll, and let's get it sponsored. We'll organize it. I'll send some screenshots to
you guys. Okay. We'll figure out how to build one. Memes have very good options. Memes. Yeah,
get memes. Go grab memes. I don't know if he's got it. He's never got it. Go grab him.
Unless he has and I'm just forgetting. No, he is not. Are you sure? No, he is not. He's already
said he's gotten a lot of tweets about it. I don't know. It's just great. I want to double check with
him. Yeah. Hey, memes. Hey, memes. We're about to do the lottery ball. Just wondering if you ever
gotten it. I haven't. Oh, no, really? Yeah, I'm afraid not. How long have you worked on part of
my take? Uh, this is about to be two years coming up. Oh, but we've been doing this that whole time.
Yeah. Haven't been in the room yet, but you've never even gotten it. The number that you wanted to
pick, like you said, for a while, you were going to be number three and we never got that. Yeah.
And three, it wasn't even a machine. Yeah. Oh, that's a little ass. What is that? That's not
an asterisk. No, yeah, that's not me. Yeah. Balls that aren't a machine. All right. Well,
numbers, 16, 17, 18, 26, 8, 6. I can't get 26 every second. What was your number? Every number
of you pick? Memes. One. No, not be sick, Joe.
Five. So close. Third time. Third time. Five. You're never going to get this meme. It's fucked up.
No, you're never going to get it. Everyone, what's just shout your socials real quick?
At Pardon My Meme on Twitter. I believe it's, let me find it. That was going to be Instagram.
So you're going to say like two, three, five, six, five.
Under score Pardon My Meme on Instagram if you want to chart me there. All right. Okay. Shout out
your socials and your mother's maiden name. Yeah. At Pardon My Meme. Yeah, never gotten it. He's
literally never gotten it. Never gotten it. 2021. Wow. Wow. He's never gotten it. That's crazy.
See everyone on Friday. Love you guys. Dogs have three eyes.
Shining away.
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