Pardon My Take - Bruce Arians In Studio, NFL Cut Day And Mt Rushmore Of Living Legends

Episode Date: August 31, 2022

Hard Knocks Episode 4 is here and we recap what probably happened (00:02:54-00:05:45). The preseason is officially over and cut day has come and gone (00:05:45-00:18:02). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Hillary Duff's diarrhea, Bill Clinton's exchange with Dr Ruth, and talking tennis (00:18:02-00:37:03). Bruce Arians joins us in studio to talk about his retirement from coaching, what it's like to be the "Hand of the King" for an NFL Franchise, and his relationship with Tom Brady (00:37:03-01:17:07). We finish with the Mt Rushmore of living legends (01:17:09-01:34:43).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. On today's pardon my take, we have coach Bruce Arians, Superbowl winning coach. Bruce Arians, recurring guest Bruce Arians, recurring guest Bruce Arians in studio. We also are taping the rest of the show at Stu Finer's house. So we're going to tape NFL betting preview with Stu Finer that will air next week. But because we're in Stu Finer's house, we're in his basement.

We're going to do the Mount Rushmore of Living Legends. So get excited for that. Cut day, lot going on in the NFL. We have hot seat, cool throne, great show coming up. And we were brought to you by our friends at Game Time. The exclusive ticketing partner of Barstool Sports Game Time is a ticketing app that makes it easier than ever to score last minute deals on tickets to sports, concerts and shows, and they guarantee the lowest price.

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your first purchase terms apply. Today is Wednesday, August 31st, and we are taping this live from Stu Finer's basement. We actually look like the meme. If you're watching on YouTube, the little kids trying to discuss something like that were on this very small table, all five of us. Yeah. Hey, guys, how do you think Mikhail Gorbachev's death affects global politics?

This is a perfect setting. The Supreme's still cool. Yeah. There we go. So it is cut day. We are taping this before hard knocks. We've pulled the plug on hard knocks, but we can just guess what happened. Well, hard knocks is on life support, but I'm like it's been in a coma for the last week or week and a half.

So I'm going home. I'm getting some rest. I'm already going to tell you what's going to be in hard knocks tonight. And I'm going to watch it. I'm not saying I'm not saying it's dead. I'm just saying that we're not going to stay up till midnight to talk about Dan Campbell crying to Tim Kennedy and Tom Kennedy when they get cut. No, that's what's going to happen. Dan Campbell is going to turn on the waterworks.

He's going to be very sad, like actually sad. He's going to kind of hate himself for cutting players that he really likes. Then Tom Kennedy is going to be cut and then he's going to be signed by the New England Patriots. Yes. So not only does he fit the bill for New England Patriot, just in terms of, I don't know, like what they really like out of a wide receiver. They just really like, yeah, it fits the bill. It's like mold, like Bill Belichick.

He opens his eyes. He looks at Tom Kennedy. He's like, that's my next Wes Walker. That's my next Nikhil Harry. That's the kind of guy that Bill Belichick is. Also, I looked up Tom Kennedy. He played lacrosse. Yeah, he was drafted in professional lacrosse.

So the end, he was signed as an undrafted free agent by Matt Patricia. When Matt Patricia was the coach of the Lions, you know where Matt Patricia is now. He's, I don't know, being a fake offensive coordinator for the New England Patriots. And, and, and Tim, Tom, Tom Kennedy's brother is here right now. And I was like, Hey, what's going to happen to your brother? And he's just like, I don't know. Yeah. So there's that's that's breaking news. Well, I think he said breaking news.

I talked to Tom Kennedy's brother. He's like, I think he's probably, I don't know. So big cap before you got here, we brought. I didn't know that that was Tim Kennedy's brother. Yeah. And so we just talked about Tim Kennedy because that's what we do in Sue's backyard. And Tim Kennedy's brother weighed in. He goes, Oh, probably Patriot.

Yeah. So there you go. So breaking news sources close to the source indicate to me that he will be a New England Patriots. There were some Bears talk too. They I think they're just trying to figure out where he's I think Stu Finer is actually going to decide where Tim Kennedy ends up because he's just going to be like, we talked in the backyard. We had the Council of Dudes, which is pretty much the nickname for Stu's house.

It's the Council of Dudes. And yeah, you're going to the Bears, Patriots, or maybe the Lions. Maybe get re-signed to the practice squad. Who knows? Yeah. But yeah, the bottom line is he'll find a good home. And we also have I can also tell you that I know that Dan Campbell is going to be very upset with the Lions effort against the Steelers on Sunday. I think they scored three points and lost. So losing not so great for him.

He's going to be upset about that. He's going to let's guess. Let's guess. What's the men count tonight? Men or man count coming out of Dan Campbell's mouth. I think I'm going to go. I'm going to set the over under at twenty eight. Oh, twenty eight. And I was that was right where I was guessing.

Yeah, you never get it right. That's a good point. Yeah. Shit. Over. Over twenty twenty seven and a half is what I'm actually going to say over as well. OK, so that was your hard knocks preview or a recap. All right, so cut day. Josh Rosen got cut. That's all I care about. Yeah. Josh Johnson got cut.

He's played on 14 teams now. He'll probably play for at least two more this year. Yeah, I'm I love the fact that he just he's the guy that you call when you don't have another guy. Yeah, when you need a guy in your locker room, it's like, OK, Josh Johnson, he's a good person to have for a week. But I also kind of feel bad for him at this point. It's like he can't ever buy a home. You probably stop buying homes after the 15th of the off season.

He was cut by. Yeah, I mean that one. But like you never he never settles in to a city. He's break glass in case of emergency quarterback. And he seems like a good guy, otherwise he wouldn't have all these jobs. And I just want him to find a forever home. I think he's a very good boy and he needs to have a forever home that loves him and cares for him forever.

I do think that he's probably got. But at this point, isn't it like you just you put you get them to just kind of give him the last good year of their life? Well, just make him happy. Yeah, but I don't think he like once you hit 14 years, like that's kind of, you know, in football years. Yeah, football years, they do age faster. So yeah, just give him all the boops, all the belly scratches

and just make sure that he's happy. I do think, though, he's probably like cornered a market now because you know that GMs are like, who's a guy that we can bring in the QB room that can live out of a hotel? Yeah. Oh, Josh Johnson, he's done it many times. Like, you know that he's not going to be calling you up being like, I don't know if I want to move again. Like, no, he wants to move again.

He keeps moving. Imagine his Marriott points by now. Right. Dude must own a Marriott hotel. He's just getting fat off that buffet constantly. Oh, the continental breakfast in Danish's. And if you show up late and if you show up late, there's no bacon. And then you look around and there's just fucking fat people eating the bacon. You're like, you motherfuckers.

I'll give you guys something to look forward to when you turn 35 because we've been saying a lot of bad stuff recently about how old we are and how washed up we feel. The great part about turning 35 is you start to finally enjoy the continental breakfast because you're finally up before 10 30 in the morning. Yes, because that's so demoralizing. Walking downstairs to take the elevator and you smell. You can still smell the fucking waffles and the bacon.

And then all you have left is like that small box of total. Yeah, or like I the worst is when they do those big shoots of cereal and it's frosted flakes and it's stale. Yeah, it's like frosted flakes. I feel like frosted flakes is an OK cereal, but it's just never is anyone's like anyone get excited about it. It's nothing special. It's pretty much Tony the Tiger does it. It's really good. Yeah, that's the answer.

That was perfect. Yeah, you're right. OK, so only. Yeah, yeah. Although so maybe we're good. They're good. Yeah, I don't think they're more than good. I think that's what Tony the Tiger says. They're just good. They're good. They're perfectly average unless they're stale at the continental breath. Yes, you know what else is bad coming out of those cereal tubes is raisin brand

because the raisins always go to the very bottom. So people that get there early, get all the raisins. And now you have frosted flakes without the frost. Yeah, you just get and you get the brand. Yeah, corn flakes. My dad would love it. All right, so I'm trying to think what else we are washed. We did we did go tune in, get excited tonight. Tonight. That's the one episode one of the part of my take.

Disc golf grand slam. We went and played four rounds of disc golf, four rounds, one round equaling nine holes. That's just how we play where that's just how we grew up playing the game. I mean, the first the first one was in treacherous, treacherous, treacherous. Yeah, so we did a couple in Colorado and then we finished it today. So we were out just banging chains with the bros all day. And we played 18 so it was.

Yeah, I was blown one of full disc golf courses, 21 holes. Yeah, that's just I think they just had to do that just to be like, we're better than golf, make it different more holes. Yeah, we walked it too. We walked the course, no carts, heroes. My arm is about to fall off right now. So that's coming up tonight. Tune in tonight. I think the first subscribe on the part of my take YouTube.

So it's going to be the first three o'clock. Three o'clock afternoon. Prime time. Prime time. The the oh, it's going to be like Champions League. That's perfect. We're we're basically the new Champions League of disc golf. So the first episode is going to be teams of two. The second episode is is split in half.

So teams of three and the final two episodes is every man for themselves to find out who is the part of my take disc golf Grand Slam champion presented by New Hampshire and Vodka. So this isn't it doesn't have anything to do with the sports world. But I know I got branded as the poop guy. You last episode. I seriously like have to poop like really, really bad right now. I had coffee.

I had like three things of Pepsi stew fed us a giant spread. But you really don't have to poop right now because you're going to have to poop when we all want to leave. I really that's when you have to go bad like very badly. Yeah. Well, you're going to have to wait. You have to hold it in. This is what this is. This is why we win podcasting awards.

We hold it up. We actually don't win any podcasting. Yeah, that's true. We're only for a lifetime. Yeah. But that's and if we did show up to the people I wouldn't be on stage to accept it because I'd be shitting my brains out in the bathroom. No, we have we we've won awards in our hearts. Oh, we've won takies. Yeah.

We gave each other takies. Yeah, that's right. That's true. Hank still actually hasn't won. No, of course not. He doesn't win anything. Oh, he was in a good mood today. We've got to keep the good mood going. You know, he's really mad when he breaks out the silent. Bubba, bubba, booze.

Yeah, when he does just does the mouth to the bubba, bubba, bubba. All right. Other things. Belichick and Berman was incredible. Yeah. That was Belichick and Berman. I mean, it was basically made for this podcast when when Belichick saw Chris Berman walking into the press room and he started clapping and was like, Swam, look at you. Like for all the Super Bowls that Belichick has won,

I don't think I've ever seen him light up like that genuinely as I did when he just saw Boomer's face. It was incredible. It was incredible. That was an awesome moment. I'm thinking of other cuts. Oh, the Raiders cut Alex Leatherwood, who was their first round pick two years ago. So yeah, essentially like putting a book

again to the Gruden, Mayock Raiders is being just objectively terrible. And it's very funny because it's always like the Clio Mack trade when everyone grades it. It's like, well, the Raiders have just drafted no one. Like, I think Jacobs is the only one you won that trade. No, we didn't win that trade because then we traded Clio Mack. We all lost, but it is always funny whenever you give a poor run organization picks

and you're like, oh, look at all the picks. I think they had six first round picks in the last three years. And then three of them are gone. And then I think Clio and Farrell is not very good. And who's the who's the Salman guy? Oh, Salman, wasn't that Farrell? No, that was their safety Abrams Abrams. He hasn't been very great.

Josh Jacobs has been good. Yeah. But and then they've cut two of them. And then obviously rucks. I've always said that even when you're doing a trade with a team like the like the Raiders, if you're taking their picks, they still have some of the stink of the Raiders on them. If they just give you picks, it's like, do I really want a Raiders first round pick?

And then if you're sending the Raiders picks, they get devalued because giving them more picks is like giving J.P.P. more fireworks. Right. Right. It's just always funny to watch an organization be like, oh, there's the bucket. Like those guys are gone and that's it. Like stamp it. All their first round picks are basically failure.

I also feel like John Gruden drafted Leatherwood because he saw his last name was Leatherwood. Yeah. And Gruden was like, that is a football name. Of course. Alex Leatherwood from Alabama. Yeah. Have to take them. I also, listen, I'm not shaming Alex Leatherwood because he is under my first round theory. The bear should go get him because he's still a great player.

Once he gets to another franchise, then he's a stock immediately. You should trade him immediately, actually. Correct. Like a team should sign him and be like, we got a former first rounder and then flip him now that he has the Raiders stink off him. Yeah. It's like, it's like flipping a house. What's Hank laughing about? You're cheesing. I just got some I got I got some tricks up my sleeve

from our rushmore and I received from Stu. Stu. So Hank went all of one Mount Rushmore without a teammate. He's been saying all summer that he doesn't want to do team Mount Rushmore. He did Mondays. He finished last and then he's like, I want Stu. Yeah. Now he's trying to create a super team. Now he's becoming everything that he once hated. Yes. The stupid team. Yeah. So next next Tuesday is going to be the finale of Mount Rushmore.

We decided. So there's this is the what is the third to last? Pinultimate, pinultimate, probably the penultimate trial. But but wait, what's the pen, penultimate trial, I made that up. Try ultimate. I just know Jake made it up. You Jake made it up courtesy of Hank. Jake made that up. Yeah. Good job. He was the one who first I first heard him say courtesy of Hank. I'll give him credit.

I give him credit to Jake for giving credit to Hank for that one. Me too. Good job, Jake. Yeah. Double credit. Very good. Double credit. What are the other ones that are, you know, they're dead. So don't say any other cut stuff. Any other big cuts? I don't think there was anything else. Treveller got cut. Yeah. Memes. You got something. Oh, I did see, which is just like the pettiest thing ever.

But a Bears beat writer was like a new era in Chicago. Ryan Poles submitted his 52 man, 53 man roster at 302. Ryan Pace didn't submit his 53 man roster till after six o'clock every year. Oh, good job. Oh, wow. Good job. We've changed. It's it's it's go better at paperwork now. They're better at setting a fax to the league office. That's hey, I mean, it's the little things that fucked up the Denver Broncos. It's the little things. Remember that with the Elvis-Dumerville thing.

Fax is so funny because I feel like the only people that use fax machines are the NFL and then landlords. Oh, I was going to say also like over 70 year old doctors. Yeah, they can only use faxes. Yeah, they don't use emails. They just fax. Yeah. But anytime you're filling out a lease, it's like fax this over fax that over. It's like, bitch, I was born in 1985. DocuSign exists. That's a real thing now.

You can also just take a picture of a of a of a signed, you know, piece of paper and text. Sometimes I do that. Oh, I do it all the time. When they say, even when they tell me specifically fax it, I email the picture and I'm like, I dare you to ask me to fax it over again. This is a fax. Yeah. We're going to say memes. Any other cuts? Oh, so you just traded traded to the Eagles.

Yeah, I think that's a good deal for the birds. Yeah, I have a future on the birds. I like the birds this year. I got a lot of money on Larry Bird. Yeah, it's going to be Bird Gang. Shout out, Mac. Oh, what are you doing? Three? What's three? What's the three?

He was a gang sign. He was a gang sign. Jesus Christ, Max. What are you doing? Bro, I was training. Three's are up again. All right, so should we get to Hot Seat Cool Throne? I don't think we have anything else.

Yeah, football is fucking so, so close to being back. Yeah, no, it's back. I can smell it. Next week. Oh, huge. I can't believe we haven't talked about this already. Papa John's made a football shaped pizza. Of course he did. Yeah, he also tried to make a crustless pizza. Who did that?

Someone tried to make a crustless pizza. I don't know. All I saw is Adam Schefter. He did like a sponsored video and he was like, look at this, it's football pizza. I mean, that plays. Yeah, and then is it for everyone? No, it's a chocolate football. No, but then then Florio tried to clap back at him

because he got that rivalry going with Schefter. And Florio was like, I heard that they made a basketball shaped pizza, but it was just shaped like a pizza. Yeah, it was very funny. Great. By the way, Florio, I know people have been like, hey, are you guys going to prank Florio this year? I actually think that what we've done this year is even better because he texted me.

He was like, he was in New York City for something. He had a meeting and he texted me the morning of it and was like, I'm 50% like expecting this meeting to just be you guys behind like, you know, you just pop out of a window or a door. And I was like, that's exactly what we want. Cause I don't, I don't feel like pranking him. He's in a living hell right now.

Yeah. Maybe like the, the, the, the flinching. He's constantly flinching. We're just going to show up his house in West Virginia and give him two. He absolutely wants us to prank him. He's waking every day being like, I hope this is the day that prank me. So I don't have to think about it anymore.

It's not happening. No, it's not. You're not getting pranked this year. That's how, yeah, that's the prank. Yeah, but be careful. Yeah, be very careful. Cause you might. You very much might.

Also speaking of fantasy football, Jerry O'Connell Friday. I know everyone's been asking. It is happening Friday. Right. So Jerry is actually tonight. He's doing, he's doing our fantasy draft in CJ McCollum's fantasy league. And so he's, he's doing that on his own, not for content, but then we'll bring him on and have him give us

the results of the draft and we'll have him grade his own draft. And then also give us like tips for which teams he's just writing off this year. So it'll be great. Half the league. Yeah. Very excited for that. All right. Hot Sea Cool Drone brought to you by our friends

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She's a poop girl. She's got diarrhea. She's got diarrhea. Jersey Jerry. She's a catastrophe. She told her young kid and then her young kid went to soccer practice and said it to the coach who then obviously told everyone

and now it's just a nationally-publicated story. Yeah, it was very weird when I was just scrolling Twitter this morning page six was like Hillary Duff's daughter says that she has diarrhea. Oh, I just saw Hillary Duff has diarrhea. Oh, I know her daughter. And then I had to click into it to like figure that out.

Wait, that was the clickbait that you got? You were like, Hillary Duff has diarrhea? Smash that click? Yeah. I love Hillary. Yes, you really do. She still got it. Well, apparently not.

She's evacuated all of it. She's foe and constant. Yeah, there's nothing left. Those guts are gone. Out of her butt. That's true. I took her off my list this morning when I saw that. Not me.

That's sexist. Yeah. When someone's your goat as a kid, it's tough to take them off the list. The word, Hillary Duff has diarrhea. It doesn't do it for me. Flags fly forever. Okay.

Pamela Anderson will never have diarrhea. I think she constantly has diarrhea, right? She has hepatitis. So hep C, that's fine, diarrhea off the list. Yeah. Got it. I'm not cool with throwing his tennis. I've been, Jake is watching.

You're watching right now? So I'm watching Sam Quarrie, Sam Quarrie is an AWL. Sam Quarrie is an AWL and he invited me to come watch. I couldn't come today, but I said if he won round one, did he invite us? I would come Thursday. He invited all of us.

He's not an AWL then. Cause he should have known nothing about us. I actually think he hates us. I think he hates us. Yeah. But he wants us there. He's retiring after this tournament and he's in trouble here.

Wait, what do you mean he's retiring? Like from the sport? How old is he? 34. So he invited us to his Twitter. Oh, last, the third set, six, seven, he choked. This guy's not. Did he choke?

I mean, there's a tie break. This guy supports you guys. You're not supporting him. Well, I mean, he's retiring. What do you want me to do? I would have loved to support him if he just kept on fucking playing. He's a loyal AWL.

I'll tell you what, I will go to his match if he makes the finals. Yeah. I'll be there. I'll get a tattoo of him across my chest. Me too. Yeah, so I'll keep you posted, but it's not looking good for me.

So you jinxed him. What? Yeah. How's that a jinx? We've never watched a Sam, what's his name? Query. Query? I've also never seen Jake do multi-screen.

Q-U-E-R-R-E-Y. If you watch his TV all the time, Sam Query. You're acting kind of quarry right now. Wait, Billy, are you ratting out on Jake? If I was caught watching TV, general recording, other things would happen. Caught watching TV.

I'm not hiding it. It's out on the table. Table. Okay, so we're rooting for you, Sam. Yes. Until you quit and retire. And then you've got to. Well, I think he's playing the doubles draw too, so.

Is he going to be continuing to? Oh, so he could be in the double. In this tournament, he's playing in both. The doubles is such a fake championship. He's probably not even retiring from doubles. No, I think he is. Just retiring from singles. He's gonna play pickleball.

If Oshka's won the game away from winning the match, so. I could probably beat him in tennis. Ugh! I'll never retire from tennis. That's a fact. Yeah, but Serena had a nice opening round. Yeah. When to Hank's point of the school throne.

I saw that. It's beautiful. Of course you guys did. Yeah. Okay, PFT, your hot seat, cool throne. Okay, my hot seat is Cade McNamara and JJ McCarthy. Yes. The two quarterbacks for Michigan

because Jim Harbaugh has decided to go with Cade McNamara. However, he justified it using a biblical justification. And he said both quarterbacks will see time in both games and possibly longer. And they said, how did you come to that decision? And he said, well, it was based on some kind of biblical model, Solomon. He was known to be a pretty wise person.

And the guy who split the baby in half. Yeah, so if you know what Solomon's riddle was, or the judgment of Solomon, Solomon was asked to decide a baby, whether it belonged to one woman or a different woman. And he said, cut the baby in half. And then the person who was saying, no, that's, I would not wanna see that baby cut in half,

give it away. Then Solomon was like, well, guess what? Plot twist, record scratch, you're the real owner. Congratulations, you are the owner of this child. Wait, so isn't that anti, though? So Harbaugh is saying he's gonna have two quarterbacks. He's gonna cut his quarterbacks in half. I don't know how that math, where he said,

a long time ago on this show, if you have two quarterbacks, you don't have one. But he's like, if you have, he's got a half a quarterback. Well, it's biblical. He's cutting them in half. I actually liked this. I saw the press conference and Jim Harbaugh is essentially being like,

I'm gonna let God figure this out. Like when you have a hard decision that you kind of, you like both guys, you don't wanna hurt anyone's feelings. Let's just hope, you know, he's probably like, maybe one of them gets injured. I'm gonna pray on it for a while and see what happens. I like the idea of starting two quarterbacks, just based on, you know, week to week,

just mixing it in there. And then they won't know who to prepare for, like Sark Stone with no depth chart. But then Harbaugh is being like, God told me to do this. Which, I mean, I would not argue with him. I think if God speaks to anybody, he would probably speak to Jim Harbaugh. Oh, absolutely.

Sonny Dykes at TCU is going with three quarterbacks. That's a lot. That's too many quarterbacks. Yeah, he's like, they're all gonna play. That's too many quarterbacks. Why not? Why the fuck not? That's a pretty good, like,

I feel like none of them are very strong, if all three of them. Yeah, probably not. Yeah, yeah. If you have three, you don't have two. But I do like that Jim Harbaugh, like this is very relatable, like a tough, like no one likes to make hard decisions.

Let's just fucking see how it plays. He's that meme. Why not both? Yeah, why not both? Let's just roll the dice and hopefully God tells us which one should start. Yep. Worked out for Mantaiteo.

Sure did. When he went to Notre Dame. Cause God told him to. My cool throne is Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton's back also. He's back and also a cool throne. Cause he was at the tennis. Why are you shaking your head, Hank?

This guy's about to lose. Oh, fucking Sam Curry, this guy. It's career point. Career point. I don't know. Wow. We have to be the only podcast that is live for Sam Curry's career point.

I hope. I kind of hope. Where were you? Where were you when his career ended? I was still alive. We were in Stu Finer's basement. So anyways, Bill Clinton was at the US Open too. And he was the best term for it.

He was canoodling with Dr. Ruth. They were getting very close. So Bill Clinton's definitely back. Billy gave me this look like who's Dr. Ruth. Dr. Ruth is maybe the most famous sex doctor of all time. So he's getting some sex. She's like probably 85, maybe 90, maybe older.

So Bill Clinton also, he's aged tremendously in the last couple of years. All that traveling and all that jet setting that he's been doing. The sun on certain islands have been beating down on his face. So Bill Clinton was getting real horny with Dr. Ruth. And I think he fucked her.

I'm gonna say he fucked her. Yeah. I mean, it's like the old saying like, you can't teach an old dog new tricks. That's not true. Bill Clinton is an old dog. He's learning new tricks. Well, I don't know.

I think Bill Clinton's teaching Dr. Ruth. I think that's what's happening. Like if you're Dr. Ruth, you've seen everything. And Bill Clinton sits down next to you and she's like, tell me about this cigars. Yeah, there you go. I just never use a cigars. All right, my hot seat is America

because, I don't know if you guys saw this, but Putin has decided to bring back a system where he awards any woman who has 10 kids in Russia one million rubles. Okay, that sounds like a lot, but how much is that American dollars? $16,000. So that's not that much.

And you get it when your 10th child turns one. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say this policy will not be appealing to women. Yeah. But it's 10 kids. 10 kids. And you don't get it till the 10th turns one. Is there like a premium on males?

I don't know. Like 2,000, like two. Why would there be Hank? I mean, I feel like that's what Putin's going for. Yeah, he probably is. He thinks he wants men. He's probably trying to play the lottery here. Yeah.

He's been playing a big invasion in 18 years. Yeah, actually probably. One million rubles sounds like so much money on the front lines. It's like, fuck. We need, we gotta. Yeah, we need more guys. We need more dudes. So he's the opposite of every college party.

He's like, someone call up all the dudes and bring them over. Yeah. Is Russia suffering from a lack of dudes right now? I think so. I know that they were suffering from a lack of dudes at the end of World War II after Stalingrad. Yeah. Because they lost all their...

They don't have any dudes. Yeah, it was a good... They should come to Stu Fowler's backyard. The ratio in Russia has historically been amazing. It's bad. No, no, depending on how you look at it, but amazing for a party. It's a clam jam.

Yeah. Nice. That's sick. Andrew Tay taught me that. No, okay. Nice. You're sensei. And then my cool throne,

I actually don't want to step on Jake. I think he's going to go, are you going to go with your wild stat? Do you? Oh, you don't have it? Well, I had it, but not as my cool. Do you want to say the wild stat? Yeah, Hank actually gave it to me.

So he deserves credit for this as well. Cool throne, credit to Jake. Yeah, cool throne Jake, because we had an all-time wild stat last night. This is wild. This is wild. Yeah, it actually is wild. Okay, let's hear it.

Some things aren't wild. This one's wild. This one. August 29th, 2001. Serena Williams wins at US Open. Albert Pujol sits at home run, and Vlad Guerrero-Senior, Craig Bijio, and Dante Vichette all record a hit.

And Bin Laden determined to attack within the United States. Right around then. On the 29th? No, that's when the memo came across, probably. August 29th, 2022, Serena Williams wins at US Open. Albert Pujol sits at home run, but here's the twist. What? Vlad Guerrero-Senior.

What? The Sun, Kevin Bijio. The Sun. How do we know that's their Suns? Last name. Have you seen their swings? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Pobichette all record a hit.

Whoa. Wow, that's wild. 21 years to the day. Serena and Pujol are still doing their thing, and the Suns are all recording a hit on the same day. And shout out Albert Pujol, 42 years old. July 4th, he was hitting 189, and since then he leads a league in batting average

and has like 11 homers. That's totally normal, right? So wait, pick out what you're saying is. That's totally normal, right? What you're saying is. Old guys get hot. Yeah, they get hot. These are really hot.

Yeah, right before they retire. What you're saying. Why didn't Sam Cruelly do fucking drugs before he retired? Oh, no, it's true. It is, he should have done some fucking windstraw. But what you're saying is, right before the home run derby, he got good all of a sudden.

Yeah, right before. That's wild. Huh, huh, I don't know. He just got historically hot. He's leading the league in average at age 42, which is also not his real age. He's like 45, and yeah, that's just interesting. Can you imagine if like a football player

got really, really good after they turned 40, and then came back looking completely different the things that we would say about him? I don't know, would it be something that MLB wants to have Albert Poulos at 700 home runs? Hmm, hmm, hmm. Just questions that I'm asking to the world. Okay, Billy.

My hot seat are the Browns, Baker Mayfield, after the Panthers beat the Bills 21-0 in pre-season was Corden saying, I'm going to fuck them up in regards to the Browns. Whoa, okay. That's my hot seat. Baker. Yeah, so.

I found out quickly that Billy's a big pre-season guy. Like what happens in pre-season counts. I think the words count for Billy. I mean, it's just, it's fun. Yeah, no, it is. Well, it is false, but I'm just saying like, yeah. Remember that stat that they threw at Meme said that the 0-16 lines went for an own pre-season.

Yeah. I mean, it's like when the like, it's like fun football. Yeah. Like nothing counts, but everything counts. Yeah, I still. It's a fun time for Jets fans. I can't quit Baker. I still believe in Baker.

I don't know what it is. I think he's still good. I definitely don't believe in Sam Darnold. No. Yeah. And then my other hot seat is Jackson State football, our friend and reoccurring guest. Do I ever talk about this?

Hot seat? Well, they have, no, you know why? No. They have no water. Yeah. They have no water. This is a sad situation. All of Jackson, Mississippi, right?

Yeah, they have no water. Bad water. So no, like water is very important in football. I, Billy, I think that you should work with Chris Long to get water boys to bring. I'd say water is important in life. To bring. Well, I'd say water is very important

in people living there might need water. Yeah. Yeah. We should get. Dana's down there, but he's Dana beers. Dana doesn't drink water. He can't. If you see Dana beers with the water in Jackson, Mississippi,

slap that shit out of his hand. He doesn't need it. He's taking it for someone who needs it. I actually think like there's nobody less likely to mix in a water than Dana beers. Right. He better, he should go on a water strike. He needs, well, he has been for the last 26 years of his life.

Yeah, that's true. He's like 40. Yeah. So a hot seat. Then my other cool throne is a Dak Prescott. All the other quarterbacks on the Cowboys got cut. So the opposite is Solomon's wisdom. It's his job.

Yeah. There it is. Although they're probably going to bring back Cooper Rush, right? It's like a handshake deal. We're going to cut you right now. It's a numbers game. They cut him.

They cut him. Yeah. It's your spot. That was fun for a day. I could totally see Dak making that part of his contract. Nobody else. Nobody else on the roster. I had Kyler for sure too.

Yeah. Okay, Jake. My hot seat is a man. Are you done watching tennis? Yes. My hot seat is a man by the name of Mark from Milwaukee. Yeah. So on the Brewers Jumbotron,

someone wrote one of those personalized messages, Mark, your friendship means the world to me. Let's not wreck it. Yeah. I actually, well, I'm woke on this. You think it's fake? Yeah. Yeah, there's no chance.

Okay, but here's the thing. It actually, it was a random dude in the stands who treated it at me. Okay. Retweeted it and then it like everyone, you think that the Brewers just did that as a joke? Yeah, I think so. Okay, I think maybe the person did it as a joke,

but I think like the Brewers didn't do it as a joke. I don't think it's a real situation. I don't think that there's a guy named Mark that's getting friends on the cards. That's where I think I just wanna believe. Yeah, I agree. But they're like, it could also be something where it's like the kid putting up the scoreboards needs an extra message

and just like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's one of those ones that like, when the guy tweeted me last night, I was like, I'm just gonna believe it because I wanna believe it. This is the next iteration of the kiss cam where they zoom in on somebody

and then the chick goes for the kiss or the guy goes for the kiss and then the girl takes out her phone. They're just transferring it to a different part of the Jumbo Tron. But this is, the world is a funner place when we just believe what's on the Jumbo Tron. I don't wanna just, you know,

it's kind of sucks to be like, ah, it's not real. Turns into a feel good story. Because the Brewers were down five, three when that message appeared in the eighth inning. Christian Yelich says, down two in the eighth inning. The dugout looked up, saw this and said, let's win this one for Mark. Final score, seven, five Brewers.

So shout out Mark. So that changed everything. That was such a funny message though. Like let's not wreck this. Just friend zone Mark. Yeah, so good luck to that guy. My cool throne is Taylor Swift. She's dropping a new album in October

and everyone's going crazy. Yeah, I'm a Swiftie. Harry Styles recent, but yeah. I'm not ashamed to admit it. She's a bad bitch. Yeah, so October 21st. I look forward to the horny way memes. I look forward to all the girls

making Taylor Swift's new album, their entire personality. While I do something normal with my life and make the wins and losses of my football team, my personality. All of Arkansas was Taylor Swift for the rides of the 405. The whole state of Arkansas.

That's true. Taylor Swift doesn't have a chance. She does, yeah. She objectively has a chance. Undeniable chance, yes. You put on the 10 minute version of All Too Well. I'm crying and coming at the same time. And pooping because you're pooping.

I know. That's the recent development. You don't do those two. I didn't poop until very recently. It's a PFT triple crown. It's the Jim Balbano. If you can come cry and poop at the same time. That's an awesome song.

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He's now, I don't, you're gonna have to tell us your exact job title. Like just sensei behind the scenes. Special counsel to analyst to the general manager. Okay. You're like hand of the king in Game of Thrones. Yeah. But he joins us.

We're very excited to have you on. You're doing a campaign today about Novartis coaching cholesterol, which I kind of want to know about that because I feel like I should probably start at some point in my life looking at cholesterol. So what do we got to do to make sure we got good cholesterol? I'll tell you that my story was we play the Vikings.

We get beat, bad call. I'm pissed off the whole night. You never want to wake your wife up at three in the morning, right? I think we need to go to the hospital. Chest pains, the whole thing. And that I was lucky. I've just found out I had known heart disease,

but it was early just bad cholesterol. You put bad cholesterol and stress together. That's a silent killer. Yes. So I teamed up with Novartis with coachingcholesterol.com to try to get, you know, get people like yourself. Hey, go get tested, get a scorecard. Yeah.

Once a year, just get your blood tests, keep an eye on it. It's easy. Mine was diet, exercise and medication, you know? And now I'm looking at some new stuff that's really good. That's great because I mean, we definitely, obviously our audience, a bunch of guys who, you know,

in their 20s, now 30s, some getting up there. It's like, hey, we've got to start actually looking after this stuff. Definitely. And if you're 35 to 40, get your PSA checked at the same time. Okay. So I'm going to do that. So last time we had you on, it's kind of crazy

because we have like a whole new chapter of your entire career that we can discuss. We had Bruce Arians on in his house at his beautiful lake house 2018. Summer of 2018. You told us and clearly you were lying to us. So I would like an apology that you were retired. You were done.

Flash forward six months later, you're coaching the Tampa Bay Bucks. Flash forward a couple of years past that. You're winning the Super Bowl. I mean, that's... It was crazy. I was not looking to get back into coaching, you know? And, you know, Jake, my son, he said,

hey, you know, it's Tampa thing, kind of interesting. You know, Jason's running the show. You guys are tight. Got a good young team. Yeah, give him a call. Give him a call and say, Jason's like, does he really want to get back in? It's like, but the kicker was Todd Bowles is available,

Byron Leffridge is available. 18 coaches were available. It just was like, this is supposed to happen. So yeah, let's go do it. And, you know, I look at my wife, said, I think we're going to get back in. She goes, I said, you already know 18 wives and it's close to the grandkids.

So you're good. She's like, all right, let's do it. Yeah, so I read your book, The Quarterback Whisperer. I actually think that was the last book that I read, like 2017. I'm a voracious reader. Everybody knows that about me. But I read the book and there's like a common theme.

Every time you leave one job, your wife's like, you're not really retired. And you're like, yes, I am. I'm really retired. And then sure enough, like a day after you have that conversation, the phone rings again. So I think we knew that you weren't going to stay retired. You're a football coach.

So like now that you're not actually, you know, you are, as you said, what special assistant to the general manager, is that what we're doing? Analyst or something. Analyst, okay. But are you actually, actually done coaching football? No, that's the beauty of my job. I go to practice every day, stand behind,

I've always stood behind the quarterbacks of practice and throw my two cents in there and watch film with the coaches and more involved with personnel. Now with Jason and spy tech and the guys in pro football office. And yeah, I'm having a blast. So you stand behind the quarterbacks

and Tom Brady like, God damn it, I thought I got rid of this guy. Yeah, I mean, that's like, yo, dude, what the hell are you looking at? Like the whole point I came back was you got to leave. That was a big rumor. Oh, it was a big one. It's nothing could be further from the truth.

We have a great relationship, you know? And I mean, yeah, Tom, he's asking more questions and I throw him in the golf cart and he's old enough and I can drive him off the field. Yeah, yeah. I think one of your best attributes that I've heard, at least from players that have played with you is that you're really good at motherfucking somebody

while still getting them to love you. Yeah. So what's the key to that? Because I got the motherfucking part down pretty good. The last thing Coach Bryant told me when I left Alabama to go to the temple was coach him hard and hug him later. And that's been my mantra, you know?

So I mean, you're gonna get your ass ripped, brother. If it ain't perfect, that's called coaching. Don't take the shit personal. You're a hell of a guy, your football sucks. Yeah, yeah. And is it one of those situations where you know right away that a player can understand that and like, or you'll see a guy and you're like,

this guy's gonna have a problem here because he takes things personally and it's gonna be hard to figure out a way for us Each guy's different, you know? Especially guys who grew up with no father figure and their moms kicked their ass all the time. It's different when a man tells them that. So it's like, you gotta make sure you find that guy

in the locker room after practice. So look, you're good. We'll get it right. Just don't be a moron. So today we're taping this. This is actually right when cut day is happening pretty much around the league. What was your speech or what would you tell guys?

Cause I feel like you would do it in a personal, did you ever cry? Would you cry with the guys? Yeah, I mean, that's tough, man. Especially if you know it's their last one. They ain't gonna another shot. That dream is over. And it's like, find something else to do.

If you do, you want to start coaching. There's some guys, you know, it's gotta be a hell of a coach and try to get them into coaching. Got a bunch of guys in that way. How many guys would you cut like in a day? Would you, would you spread it out and be like, hey, let's, personally, I would just be like,

can we just do a couple like on Saturday or something? So I don't have to do them all today. Yeah, normally in the old days, you cut them all the same day. And now it's like, let's hold on to some till the last second. So nobody else can get them. And so it's, yeah, it's hard.

I didn't meet with all of them individually. That was too, that's way too emotional. Right, I was gonna say. It was a veteran. Amen. We let a guy go early this year. So he could maybe catch on with another team. Right.

You know? What about when you cut Antonio Brown on the sidelines? Was that emotional? Yeah, that was, yeah, very emotional. Very high-pitched. Because that was an interesting cut. Yeah, I mean, you've been around football a long time. I bet you probably haven't seen a player

like take off his gloves and his shirt and go running across the field, like kissing goodbye to the fans on the way. That's a unique individual. And, you know, he helped us win a Super Bowl. Yeah. So yeah, AB's, he's a great player. Nobody works any harder than AB.

Did you, when that happens, when you're walking off the field after the game, are you like, yeah, maybe it wasn't that big of a deal. Or did you know, like, oh, this is going to be a shit show? You knew it right off. Because, like, I would delude myself and be like, ah, there's other games going on. Probably someone's watching them, so it's the Jets.

No, I was watching them. It was going to be a story for a while. Yeah, and it was. And I remember we were watching it. And I think we missed it when it happened initially. And then we saw it, and we're like, is this pregame? Like, is this pregame that he's waving to the fans? And we're like, no, this is actually

happening right this second. And then you have to be ready after the game's over to answer jackasses like us, who are going to ask you questions about it. And you have to be like, OK, now how do I answer this in a legal way, where I'm not going to get in trouble as a head coach? So did you have anybody that, like, advised you, like, hey,

here's what you have to say to the press right afterwards? No, they knew I wouldn't do it anyway. Yeah, yeah. Is that kind of the rules? The same way happens. And it was good that it happened to you, like a grizzled guy who's been in the league for a long time, because it was like a new head coach.

It would probably be. Oh, it'd be hard. Yeah, very, very hard. Very, very young guy, yeah. We were watching you last year. One thing that we liked about your look on the sideline, obviously, the kengal is iconic. We've always loved that.

The transition lenses, those are great, too. The strap that you had across your chest, we would always try to figure out what the hell was in that strap, because it looked kind of like you had a bomb put on your chest. This is what we're doing when we're watching football, yeah. You're the only coach that we saw where that particular getup.

So can you walk us through what that pack was? Yeah, that was the communication pack, but you used your word around your waist. But I had that thing so tight it was killing this nerve going down my leg. Like by half time, my leg was going numb, burning, and I said, we've got to come up with something new. As soon as I take it off, it'll go away.

So it's like, give me a shoulder strap. Plus, it was so much easier, man, because look right here. Hell, I was so fat, I couldn't see it any longer. And now it's like, this is like, why doesn't everybody wear it over their shoulder? Yeah, it looks a lot cooler when the coach is like pushing something on their chest to communicate. You looked like you were, you know.

Especially when the referees come over. I'm going to hit those bombs. Yeah, right, here you go, yeah. You also had to look, everyone, again, this is what we watch for on Sundays. But during the pandemic, when coaches decided they're different masks, you had one that was, it looked like it was just like the one you get,

like you can get like a hundred for 10 bucks at Lowe's. You were just wearing like an old school painter's mask. I liked that. And you also had one where I think that, where your face was just getting redder the whole time, and you were like suffocating from the mask. Dude, I must have got 30 different products to keep your glasses from fogging up.

Like, nothing works. I mean, you get hot, they fog up, and it drove me absolutely crazy. Yeah, we could tell. And the refs took most of the blunt. Yeah, that was the worst part. Yeah, we could tell if you were getting redder over the course of the season,

because you're not a sunscreen guy, or because you were just getting madder at the refs and yelling at them more. But you actually look really good right now. Have you lost weight? Oh, I lost about 40. Yeah. Wow. So is that going hand in hand with the cholesterol stuff?

Yeah, definitely, definitely diet, exercise, and I'm not doing my Achilles. Well, not 90% last year running in the pool. What do you mean 90% each year? I got about 10% strain left, so I'm not doing any kind of surgery, man. I'm like, as long as I can play golf, I'm good. Oh, so you didn't get any surgery?

No. Jeez. You walked it off. You walked off a torn Achilles. Yeah, and last year on the sideline, I had to wear this boot with high heels. Yeah. So I screwed up all the muscles everywhere else. Like, that's why I was so miserable on the sideline last year.

That's a football guy to be like, oh, I got 10%, I'm good. Yeah, 10% is better than nothing. Yeah, so wait, you lost 40 pounds. Help us out, because we're trying to lose some weight. I'm trying to lose like 25 pounds. Yeah, I mean, obviously diet and exercise. I mean, carbs, sugar, the stuff that's on court.

Does pizza have carbs? I mean, me, pretzels and bread, I mean, but that's, I tried the vegan thing, but all you eat is carbs, so I didn't lose. I was a vegan for eight weeks, lost three pounds. I didn't lose anything, no, no, no. If a vegan told me to go vegan and you'll lose weight, I did it for eight weeks and I lost three pounds.

I would slap him in the face. Oh dude, I was so hot. Friendship over. I was like, wait, I could get on the scale. No, don't get on the scale for a while. Wait, was that during the season? Yeah, I totally can't. Holy shit, so that is like the poor refs.

You have Bruce Arians with 10% Achilles, a mask, a holster that doesn't really fit and he's vegan. No, the vegan was Arizona. Okay, all right. But no, for me, it was just a matter of, hey, get with the diet, get a good plan. I needed a coach. I was like, go get a coach.

All right, I'll follow you. I'll listen to your coach. So it worked. What about paint? Are we still drinking paint? No, you know. Once in a while. Just a sip.

Getting your stomach pumped, it's not a thing anymore. Just swish and spit like a fine wine. Yeah, right. Especially the green paint. Yeah, oh, that's the good stuff. Yeah, that stuff, when I look at green paint, I actually think that tastes like pistachio pudding.

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Everyone knows he's a crazy like competitive, you know, he lives football. But what is it that when you like got with him and coached him that you're like, this is why he's different than everyone else that I coached? Not totally different than Peyton. They're the same animal.

Yeah. I mean, their need for information. I mean, I wanna know, I want every rock unturned before this game starts. What are we gonna do in this scenario? We're gonna do in this scenario. Tell me about the DBs, like Spytech, they would meet and all the DBs have a book on D.

They had to have the information and they would just decipher it. Let me just go out and tear you up. Right. They hate losing. They hate losing. They hate playing bad, you know? So it's like, times are more demonstrative.

Yeah. On the sideline, but it's great to watch him, great to work with him and just a hell of a dude. I mean, yeah, were you even shocked at times when you're like, this guy's 43, 44, when you, you know, he's winning a Super Bowl, like how is he, how's he doing? Cause I think we've all had that thought like,

how's he still doing? He's throwing better now. It's crazy. What is that? Like what, has he changed his motion or anything? No, no, he's got great mechanics. And, you know, he's one of those full body throwers. He's not using all just arm,

but Tom, he's an amazing human being as far as taking care of himself that way. And, but no, he's throwing the ball better and I've ever seen him throw it. That's crazy. Was there any kind of feeling out period or getting used to period when, when he first started playing for you?

Because you, you know, you have to be yourself when you coach him and Tom probably hasn't somebody like you coaching him and giving him that tough love that you were talking about earlier. Was there a kind of a period where he was like, why is this guy yelling at me all the time? And you had to like figure it out or did you have to change him the stuff that you did?

Because you're like, you know what, it is Tom Brady. You change. Yeah, you don't, you don't, you don't coach him the same way you coach a rookie. You know, he's saying we don't treat him the same way. Yeah. So it's like, yeah, it was a little feeling out period, but hey, all we want to do is win.

This is what it's going to take to win. Let's get her done. Did he ever get frustrated with you or the coaching staff? If they weren't coaching everyone else, like they might have coached him and it, because you know, the Patriots obviously, everyone knows how Belichick runs his system. I think you're maybe a little bit more of a player's coach.

Was he ever like, hey, you got to get harder on the guys? Oh no, if you ever seen me at practice, you can't get any harder. Right, right, right. Like I said, coach them hard, hug them later, but now that part was never a problem. And it was such a weird year that year was the pandemic. And going into stadiums that were empty and no energy.

I mean, pulling into giant stadiums, play it's Sunday night football and there's mist and in the car in the parking lot. Right. How do you get fired up to play? Right. And dammit, I got our ass beat, but. It's got to be nice for the offense though,

like, you know, we know fans, yeah. I mean, that part of it was, now me, I'm a trash talker. So I'd be hollering at the teams, other teams, players. Oh shit, they can hear me. Yeah, they can hear everything you're saying. So the other Tom Brady question I had was, that game against the Rams that you guys almost came back,

was there a moment where you're like, there's something about Tom Brady that just like makes these teams like screw up around him? Because there was, there was moments that was just like, how is this happening again? You know, watching like the 28 and three or the Malcolm Butler, like, how is this happening again? Obviously you guys fell a little short,

but like it felt like it was happening again where it's like this team is just falling apart and Tom Brady is just doing enough to be there at the right moment. Well, as long as Tom's on your sideline and there's time on the clock, you can win. Right. Everybody on defense believes that,

the entire organization believes it. So, you know, defense, let's go make something happen. So we got to turn over touchdown, got to turn over touchdown. We're back, you know, and tie it up and then those last 42 seconds. But yeah, but that has to feel for on the sideline, something different than me.

It's probably similar to the Peyton stuff, but like being on a team where it's like, everyone believes in this one guy and that everything can work out if this one guy is here. Yeah, when he's at practice, it's a different level. How so? He's very demanding and everybody's going full speed, doing everything right, you know?

And like, I'm coaching a young receiver, hey, pump your arms, come at your break, you're slowing down, the ball's gonna be out in front of you. Same thing, he does it again. So Tom throws in the ball. Hey man, you gotta pump your arms. I'm throwing the ball out in front of you. Next time the kids bump this, I say,

can you go tell this guy to do this? Cause he gonna listen to you, he ain't listen to me. Right. And he'll listen to you. And so that's the beauty of having, but now when he's out there, it's a whole never left. You think Tom would be probably a pretty good head coach then, if you wanted to get a good coach.

Really? He'd be way too demanding. Really? It's like working for Peyton. I mean, they're workaholics, man, they're workaholics. So which of your players that you've had recently would be a great NFL? You said that, you know, sometimes if there was a veteran

and they want to stick around and get into coaching, you can tell them like, I'll help you out. What players playing right now, do you think would make good coaches? I think Blaine Gabbard would be a good coach. He's been through it, knows it even now. And defensively, Lavante David would be a hell of a coach. The guy's playing.

Now we've got a bunch of players on our staff, former players on our staff that I think will be head coaches. Byron should have been head coach last year. Larry Foot would be a head coach someday. So with Byron, it's interesting because I think it's a buck's play well this year. Byron should get a head coaching job, right? Although I feel like I've said that for the last couple of years.

Exactly. But he should be one of the next guys in line to get a job. So Byron gets a job, Todd Bulls comes back with the bucks and he calls you. He says, coach, I need you. I need you to call plays for me next year. What are you saying? Good luck, brother.

I'll help whoever you got, I'll help whoever you got. Yeah, being a special advisor seems like a pretty cool job, honestly. It's the best. I mean, you worked 29 years in a league to get this job. Right, right. Better than being a coach. You don't get any of the blame if things go wrong.

Never lose another game. Yeah, that's true. I didn't think about it that way. It is great how you set up Todd Bulls. If we're going the different narrative that it wasn't because Tom Brady asked you to leave, we'll go with the different narrative that you set up Todd Bulls. I feel like you always have done that for your guys.

What is that? Is that more rewarding sometimes than even just you winning games? Because it feels like you have set up all your guys to be in a position where they can get head coaching jobs or they get like Todd Bulls is walking into a team that is, I don't know, probably the second or third best team pre-season. That's incredible. That doesn't happen.

Yeah, the secession was huge for me. Didn't happen in Arizona and wanted to make sure it happened here. And yeah, I mean, it's like as a father and you see your kid go out and he hits that home run or he makes that play and you're so proud, you know. For me, it's like watching my guys. I mean, like I said, 18, now 29 coaches we have on this staff. Either I played with coached or for with.

And so yeah, it's it's very important to me. We should just remake success. Do you watch watch succession on HBO? I'm going to have to start. Yeah, it would be so boring with you because you'd just be like first episode, like, all right, Kendall, you get the company like good job. And then kindle does a fantastic job with it.

Right, right. Like we set this all up for you. Kindle, I love you so much. It actually would be nothing like the actual succession. But yeah, Todd Bulls, I've been a long time believer in Todd Bulls. When he was a coach of the Jets, I think I said on the show one time, he's a top 10 head coach in the NFL. It didn't work out for him in New York.

But can you can you just sell me and seller listeners on why Todd Bulls is going to be a good coach and was a good choice? Well, first of all, if you ask anybody in the entire Bucks organization, oh, yeah, he's a hell of a coach. I mean, what he did in the Super Bowl with that game plan. And but everybody trusts him and he's a great human being. But he knows the game. He can teach the game.

A lot of guys, you can know all the football in the world. If you can't teach it, what the hell are you doing? Right, you know, and he's a great teacher. The players have such respect for and the entire organization. The coaching staff, it's all set, you know, everything was set. And he's a hell of a leader. Yeah, I played. He was one of my first captains at Temple back in 85.

And so, yeah, as I said, he's like a second son. Yeah. Did you have any inkling back when he was playing for you at Temple that this is a guy that I'm going to see again? He loves telling the story because, you know, he graduated. I say, man, you might want to think it in the coach. And I don't think the NFL's for you. You got a pistol, but he played 10 years with two students.

I'll show you. Yeah, yeah, that's good. Little I knew you motivated him. Yeah, would. So when you when you're thinking about your entire career and it's been an incredible career, what are the moments that you think like where you got a lucky bounce? Because I'm always curious.

I think a lot of people get to a point of success and they kind of forget about the lucky bounces. What was the lucky bounce for you? And maybe why was it like the Bears hiring Mark Trussman instead of you? Yeah, that was a good one. Yeah. I think this goes back to college. I wasn't going to come back from fifth year. I was trying to get a junior high coaching job, got turned down

and went back for a fifth year with a new coach, ended up being captain of the team, MVP. And he started me in coaching. Wow. And Jimmy Sharp, one of the greatest coaches I've seen. Those those are crazy moments because you just think about like, well, yeah, what if you had just gotten that junior high coach? You could have been like a gym teacher somewhere. I've been gone. Right.

I'd have taken it. And so, yeah, there's people like that in your life. But for me, every time we got fired, we got a better job. And, you know, we all got fired in New Orleans. Go to Alabama, get fired the first year. Thank God, coaching Peyton Manning the next year. Yeah. Things take off. Yeah, getting fired at the right time is actually it's a very underrated skill in life. It's a great, great thing.

And sometimes you got to know when to not like fight getting fired to exactly. And you just kind of roll with the punch. Let me roll out of here, please. And I think because you've had you've had a few breaks go your way. You've had some people that believed in you, you find your guys and you try to give other people these breaks. The one that comes to my mind is Tyran Matthew, who's a great player. And, you know, coming out of college, he was almost untouchable by a lot of teams. They took him off their draft board because he had, you know,

in retrospect, some character issues that weren't really indicative of who he was as a person. So what was it about about meeting with him that you thought to yourself, like, I can trust this guy, I see some of myself in this guy, whatever the case may be. And then we're going to bring him on. Yeah, I mean, meeting him personally, he never blamed anybody else. I only blamed himself.

And this time I'm going to fix it. And he has that persona about him. You know, he's a lovable guy. And but I hate to blame somebody else, maybe thought twice about it. But coach, this is what I did. I did it as I'm fixing it. So we're going to take a shot. And my favorite draft choice of all time.

Really? Yeah. Wow. Did you know instantly when he got in the building like first practice, this is different? Oh, yeah. And everybody saw it. Yeah, we got a lot of veterans on that team. Patrick Peterson, Larry. Hey, this guy's special. It does. It obviously works in the other way where you draft someone

and then they come up to come to practice. You're like, whoops, that happens. Or that was a mistake. Yeah, that happens all the time. Yeah, I'm always curious with the draft process because it is it does feel like talking to guys in the league. They know almost within like the first two practices, like this guy's going to be a dude or this guy doesn't have it.

Is there a way to fix that in the draft room? We're like, no, especially quarterbacks. Yeah, quarterbacks is like the most unknown science because you can't measure the two brains they play, the two muscles they play with, the brain in their heart. Yeah. Now, you can see you can throw, you can jump, you can run. But has he got grit? You know, can he lead?

And so that's you can't find that out. Yeah, you get them. Yeah, you know, and it's sometimes it's great. Sometimes it's too late. And would you say like the quarterback position, do they have to be the leader of the team? Or have you been in locker rooms where it's like, maybe they aren't the number one leader of the team?

Yeah, I'm especially young ones. Yeah, you know, I think back Super Bowl 40, Ben came in, you just play quarterback, man. We got this for you. You know, yeah, Jerome, you got all the guys on defense. Alan Fanica, you just play quarterback. We got this. You ain't got it. And he played great quarterback for us.

Yeah, would you ever get exasperated with Ben because he would, you know, after a tough loss or a tough game where maybe he got hit a couple of times and he wanted to to put on the walking boot and walk around the locker room and be like, yeah, I'm super banged up out here. You know, like doesn't even stop by the training table on the way back, just goes right out to the press.

He's like, yeah, the doctor said I got pretty much like a spray. I got a sprained sprained arm, the whole thing sprained. Would you ever like sit him down and be like, Ben, you're not hurt. It's OK. No, no, because he always was. Was he really? Yeah. The dude took he's one of the toughest dudes I ever coached. And no, if he if he talked about it, it was real.

I mean, he played. I saw a picture of his the bruise on his hip last year in the beginning of the season was like, how the hell are you in playing? Right. And I got to play. Yeah. What do you talk to him at all anymore? Did he talk to you when he decided that he was going to retire? We think he could do one more year. I thought so.

I mean, I was trying to talk him out to it myself. Print that. But that would be the big big Ben should do one more year. But no, he's done. He's happy. Yeah, he had dinner at the lake right before I went back to training camp. Oh, yeah, because he's at the lake with you. Yeah, it was like, dude, I'm not missing it. I said, that's great. Yeah, I still can't believe going to your house at that lake house.

I can't believe you went back to coaching because that lake house is incredible. I remember walking in and being like, well, this is what retirement should look like. Yeah, it's hard to get my wife to ever come out. Yeah, I would. Yeah, you were like, oh, yeah, I got a helicopter that's going to take me for CBS. It's like, I would just feel that didn't work out. Yeah, that didn't work out. Yeah. Did you did you know I felt me up? They they they fed me a good lie that time.

Yeah, wait, so you didn't get the helicopter? No, no, I'm driving at three o'clock in the morning every every week. They had to derecrue you. It's like trying to go to campus and you get there. You're like, you're not special anymore because you had it all set up. You're like, yeah, I'm going to just take a helicopter there. Did you like doing media or was it? Yeah, it was fun. Yeah.

The travel travel was bad. Yeah, that was hard because I live so far away from the airport. Right. Yeah. And that's where that's a lot of work when I was kidding Tom. I say, man, you know how much how hard work that is? He said, tell me about it, what I got to do? Of course. I said, it'll be easy for you to be flying private.

Yeah, right. Yeah. You think Tom's going to do a good job in the booth when he retires? Oh, Tom would do great. Whatever, because he he's a perfectionist. He's going to find out, talk to the right people. He'll be great at it. Does does it ever get exhausting hanging out with Tom because he is such a perfectionist? Are there some people that just can't can't deal with that level of intensity all the time?

No, it's fun playing golf with him. He gets as mad as I do. It's always fun playing golf with him. Are you wearing the watch he bought you? Yes. Oh, that is. OK, so there it is. That was I liked that you were like Tom and I are friends.

He bought me a watch and it was like case closed. He bought you a watch. So if you're wearing it again, yeah, then it counts. If you weren't wearing it, I would have been like your suspect. Yeah, that's not a real friendship. Yeah. So that's all right. So case closed. This is an easy question.

Who's better, Peyton or Tom Brady? No, no. I'm not going there. How about we break it down? You said what? The heart, right? Would you say you throw with your heart? You throw with your mind, your grit and your arm.

So of those four attributes, as far as grit, who's grittier, Peyton or Tom? They're equal. You're going to say that everything's equal, aren't you? Heart. I mean, no, equal. Lion, two lions. Arm. Um, at 45 versus Peyton at 40, Tom.

But at 25, they're both same. Okay. And then brain. Oh, yeah, they're both. That's big bad. They're both off the charts. Yeah. Yeah.

Andrew Luck. Yeah. Number one. Really? Best quarterback you ever coached? I only had him as a rookie, but he was unbelievable. We're trying to get him on this show. He's like kind of a new white whale of ours,

because he doesn't do any media. And I think we're now at a point. He's so happy, man. I know. I saw him at Chuck's. It's hard to believe Chuck's cancer thing is 10 years. That's incredible. And we went to the fundraiser and saw Andrew out in the parking lot.

He's a happy guy. Just great. It's crazy too that like when you think about him retiring, it felt like it feels like 10 years ago was three years ago. Three years ago. And he's, you know, he hasn't looked back. And I think there's that, that time that happens where a guy retires early, like Barry Sanders, you're like, oh, maybe he'll come back.

There's no chance he's coming back, right? None. No. I kind of admire him for being able to walk away from some of that. He was the best in the world. And to hear you say that he's the best quarterback that you've ever coached. I mean, that to walk as a rookie to walk to walk away from all that and, you know, potentially a limitless NFL career because you don't actually love it.

That takes a lot of balls to do that because I think a lot of guys, they keep playing football either because they get addicted to the money or because they think that some of the that they're supposed to do. And it's something that they've done all their lives and they don't have that like inner will to be able to say, you know what? I'm actually not happy. I'm going to go do something that makes me happy. So I have a lot of respect for Andrew Luck for doing that.

I mean, four straight years of rehabilitation will wear you out mentally. Yeah. You know, and he was taking a beating and again, tough as nails. I mean, he's the only lineback, he's the only quarterback that throws an interception. It hits as hard as a linebacker because he's pissed off. Yeah. Right. Yeah. That definitely did happen. Like all the time with Andrew Luck.

I have a very important question for you. It's going to kind of change my mood today. Do you remember Stephen Chay, the guy who did Bucks Fantasy Camp? He came down, spy tech had him like running around. He did it. He did it this year. He did it a couple of years ago, too. Do you remember him at all?

He tried to give you some plays at the bar. He gave you. Oh, yeah. Okay. Did you ever use the play? No. Good. Okay. All right. That was if you had said yes and you had remembered him.

I got him back. I'm in now. No. No. So when he gave you that play, were you like this? Like did you just throw the trash like this guy? Thanks, buddy. Yeah.

Smart. Good. He actually was supposed to be here today. He just he's he's he's dealing with COVID and his family. So he can't be here. But I was like very nervous that you're going to be like, oh, yeah, that guy. He's an up and coming genius. And I was going to be like, all right, this interview is over.

We can't do this anymore. The only the only person I ever let call plays. We had a young guy at Temple was in a wheelchair, Kanji. And he had spina bifida. So he mom would bring the practice and and he would draw up a play for me. And we've run the first play where he'd have crazy reverses and, you know, we've got Paul Palmer leading the nation in Russian. So finally he said, hey, let's just give it to Paul up the middle.

Yeah. Right. I'm with you on that. He's learning. Yeah. That's great. I we had Nathaniel Hackett on the show a couple of weeks ago and he was asking me for some advice because I have done some consulting with some NFL coaches

about kind of implementing rugby strategies into the NFL. I told him, I don't want to tell you because we have Bruce Arians come on. And I like your offense better than Nathaniel Hackett. So I'm going to share it with you exclusively. The laterals are going to change the game. Designed downfield laterals are going to be the next evolution in football. When you have, you know, not just the hook and ladder play, but a guy that's getting tackled and being able to like wrap around and offload to a player that

they know that they're going to be on their hip pocket. It works really well in rugby. And I'm convinced that if a coach practices enough and the coach has to have job security because if there's if there's turnovers, you know, turnovers will kill you. But if you practice it correctly and you do it smartly and pick your spots, I truly believe that's going to be the next big wave in offensive football in the NFL. If you want to take that, I'll be special advisor to the special advisor. You got it.

And I would I would be honored to teach you more about this strategy. I'm going to bring in some guys from Fiji to help. We're going to go nationwide and do a camp teaching NFL and college head coaches how to implement this downfield lateral strategy. Yeah. That's spacing so big in our passing game. We don't have two guys next to each other. So it's very hard to get that guy. All right. Now it's like the hook and lateral stuff.

Yeah. You're running towards a guy you can probably you could probably implement something. But it's going to be a high risk, high reward. Yeah. Well, the reward is Super Bowls. Yeah. So I'm here to offer you another Super Bowler. Yeah.

Okay. Yeah. Is that something you'd be interested in? I'm not going to lose another game. Yeah, that's true. All right. So I since you're out of coaching, I have a coaching hypothetical for you that maybe you can speak on.

Let's say Championship Sunday. Okay. It's fourth and eight and you're on the goal line. So it's fourth and eight, fourth and goal from the eight. And you are down eight points. Do you kick the field goal or do you go for it? Also, Tom Brady's on the other sideline. On the other sideline.

Yeah. How many times left? There's like two and some change. Oh, you got to go for it. You do? Okay. Eight minutes left. I'm kicked the field.

Yeah. Yeah. But put two minutes. You got to go for it. That means I got three timeouts. So when Matt LaFour did that, were you like, what the hell is he doing? No, I actually thought it was the right thing. No.

He had two minute warning and three timeouts. Right. You had Tom Brady. You had Tom Brady. He had to believe he was getting that ball back. Right. But you had Tom Brady. But he could go for it.

And if he doesn't get it, he could still believe he's getting the ball back and go for it again. Yeah. We think he was trying to kick three field goals to beat you guys. I think just one and get the ball back and let Aaron do it. Yeah. Because he's got Aaron Rodgers. Right. But you have Tom Brady.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah, you guys did win. Is there any other quarterback that's in the game right now that you want to coach? Or that you, I won't say that you want to coach,

but that you watch play and you're like, I would love to coach this guy. Oh, I thought for sure when we're in Arizona, we're getting Patrick Mahomes. Really? As that draft was falling, I was like, he's ours. See, they're here, Mr. Sean. Yeah. And, but Pat was right. He's right there.

Kansas City doesn't need a quarterback. They take him. He's like, what? They got Alex Smith just went to the Pro Bowl. And we thought he would, and we loved him. Yeah. So you were, you actually had him higher than most on your draft board. You probably were like, I can't believe you had him first overall.

I went out to Lubbock and worked him out personally and skill-wise is off the chart. But mentally, he was right there with Peyton and Andrew and Tom. I mean, he's like sharp. Right. I mean, just really sharp. But so he starts falling and are you thinking to yourself like, what are these other teams seeing that I'm not seeing? No, I mean, because there was a lot of knocks on the way,

the offense he was coming out of and things like that. But just the four teams in front of us, no one needed a quarterback. Yeah. So did you, how much when you were looking at quarterbacks, did you take into account the car they drove? Was that important part of the process? Yeah. You got to talk about swagger.

Yeah. Yeah. A little bit. Or lack of. Yeah. Yeah. Or like if they drove like an old car, it's like, hey, they've been driving the same car for 20 years.

The reason. Okay. I want to know the reason why you're in that car. Well, if it's a good reason, then I guess you got to draft the guy. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right.

So yeah. That's why he took Mitch. Yeah. Mitch had to be drafted. He had a car. He had an old car that he drove around. Yeah. Got to draft him.

That's exactly right. All right. So I had one last question for you, coach. This has been awesome. It's a rowback question. R-H-O-B-A-C-K dot com. Use code TAKE for 20% off your first purchase. Q-Zips, hoodies, polos, everything.

So Tom Brady, how long do you think he actually will keep playing? I know he's said, I think he's always said 45. So this is 45, but from your estimation, like just watching him day to day, do you think he's going to play three, four more years? Because we're at the point now where we're just... Nothing surprises me. With Tom, nothing surprises me.

Because he's in such unbelievable state. Like I said, he's thrown it all better than he did when two years ago. Right. And so much of it's his personal life. You know, I think he got decisions. And but as far as being able to play, he can still play. Yeah. It would really be a weird situation if he just kept getting better

or kept staying the same and kept expecting after every year. Like I'm going to feel bad after this season. Might as well retire, but then he just keeps going. I could honestly see Tom Brady playing for another five years. I don't know about five, but a couple for sure. He looks young. Oh yeah. He looks great, doesn't he?

Very young. Fantastic. Yeah. What's his secret? TB12. Yeah. That's something. Drink it all that water.

He drinks, man. Yeah. Does he walk around? So I started carrying this around. I feel like a freak. Like an absolute freak show. This is twice that size. And how many times does he fill that up per day?

I think at least two. Geez. He drinks his body weight in water every day. When he came to, because there was obviously stories written that maybe the TB12 stuff with his trainer had a little tension in New England when he came to Tampa was like, you get to do whatever you want. Oh hell yeah.

Yeah. Alex, open arms. Help me, brother. Yeah, right. Help me. Yeah. That's, I mean, it obviously worked Super Bowl champion. I mean, it is crazy to have you back on.

Like I said, when we were in your basement and you're like, I'm retired, talking about helicopters, taking your CVS. And it's just like, all right. Then he won a Super Bowl. Only guys got me a beach farf. Yeah. Yeah. I think I've, I've unretired three times.

Yeah. Farf, I think he had three, right? I'm still waiting for another one too. It's farf. He definitely, yeah. He definitely gets out there and like every, every spring, like, oh, the old cannon's feeling good. Is there like a specific sliding doors moment where you,

you thought that you were retired, actually, actually retired, and you were very close to staying retired, but finally got, you know, just somebody convinced you to come back. Like I have to imagine that when you left Pittsburgh, you thought that you were, that was actually it for you, right? Yeah. So what happened there? That was, because I remember when I read about that the first time,

it seemed like you were completely checked out of football. This is it. Time to hit the golf course, have a few cocktails fade into the sunset. Well, I can still hit the golf course and still drink the cocktails, but it was Chuck, Chuck called and, you know, the idea of getting a young quarterback again got me fired up, and whether it was going to be RG3 or Andrew. And so, yeah, that started it.

And then the health things in Phoenix, they got scary. Yeah. You know, the cancer thing was, okay, this stuff's enough. And then Jake, Jake, Colin, Jason and say, hey, let's do this in Tampa. Right. That's a good son. But you're officially, officially.

I'm officially done. Officially. I don't believe it at all. We're going to officially, the less I believe you. I got my last flag two weeks ago. Yeah. No, no, we're practicing against the Titans. Okay.

I'm cussing out the ref. He threw a flag on me. He said, you can't coach them. Oh, I'm going to the press box. Yeah. No, I fully expect in five years for you to come back in this on this show, you're going to be retired again with another Super Bowl. And you'll be like, yeah, Tom Brady's still young as ever.

He just won his like, you know, his 10th Super Bowl. So, but coach, we really appreciate your time. You're, you're a great recurring guest. Everyone go to coaching, cholesterol.com for more information. Super important, especially when you're getting up there in age. I'm going to go check it out because 37 got a couple kids got to start taking care of myself. I mean, especially if you're in a stressful job and you have bad cholesterol,

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He's a living legend. Okay. Okay. Interesting pick. Who is Stu on your team? He won't fight Abdul. Or Jack McWire. Shout out Jack Mack.

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you go with what you're feeling 1-1 because we do have a great list. Okay. Yeah. I'm shocked that Hank went with Hasbulla instead of the goat, Michael Jordan. Yeah. That's what I thought.

Michael Jordan living easy. That's what I thought 1-1 was. The best basketball player of all time. Maybe the most important athletic figure besides secretariat and touch and salt in the car also of all time. Also has gotten cooler with age. His brand still sells millions of sneakers.

Yeah. A living legend. He, he swagger jacked the Hitler stash from Hitler. Yeah, but he's kind of like, I feel like it's like he's lost into a room. He was so unsuccessful as a owner. No, no, no, no, no. Yeah.

That is, that is not correct. Wait, wait, hey, did you just say he's an owner of a basketball team? You're right. He is. And also he made that money by being so good at basketball. Adam Morrison, he thought was going to be good. Although I don't know, was that his pick?

Yeah, I think it was. And Kwame Brown had all the tools. All the tools. Listen, Michael Jordan walks in a room. It stops the room. Guarantee. He is the room. Same with Hasbulla.

He's the greatest basketball player of all time. That goes for Hasbulla as well. The greatest, what? Basketball player of all time. No, he walks in a room. Everyone stops. I don't know if that's true. If you're on the other side of the room, Hasbulla walks in.

You stop. Yeah, because everyone else is like, you hear. All of a sudden it's like a hush. And then I was like, oh, OK, OK. How many rooms have you been with Hasbulla? Unfortunately none, because I'm not as much of a living legend. You go to any country in the world and they're like Michael Jordan. Hasbulla.

No. He's got international. Yeah. Michael. You don't think Michael Jordan is big in China? There's other countries in just China. OK. That's not a big deal.

How big do you think Michael Jordan is in Dagestan? Huge, massive, massive. But not as big as Hasbulla. I disagree. Yeah. OK. That was an easy one-one. We're going to go in a similar category to you guys.

Change sports and take Tom Brady. Oh, OK. OK. OK. And then I think Michael Jordan. Is he alive, though? No, I think what me and Max said. I like where we're going to go, because I think we should

go four different categories and just stunt on these. I mean, we got the best athletes. We just stunt on them. I think it's. Did you guys have Jordan as your one-one? Yeah, we were going to take Amjad. Yeah. Good pick by us.

Billy doesn't want to go with what me and Max have. OK. So that means probably pretty good. Yeah. I might just say it then, Billy. All right, say it. Say it. OK, I'll say it.

Say it. You don't even like this pick. Say it. No, I like it. The rock. The rock. All right. All right.

That's a good pick. Yeah. Everyone loves the rock. Is that what the rock's cooking? He is. All right, I think we now do. I like the pick. I think we can just go everywhere.

Like, I think we can. Yeah, we can mix it up a little bit. I think maybe we, you know what we should go? Do we want to do this? Because I think the one I sent you, no one's going to have. Sure. All right. Let's go with the guy who's got like 100% likeability rating,

puts out incredible movies for the last 40 years, Adam Sandler. Living legend. Great pick. Every also just goes viral every other day for just dropping dimes in a pick on hoops game. He's been on this podcast. And also he goes viral for being a good friend all the time. Yeah.

Like that. When I see Adam Sandler trending, it's usually because he did something awesome to help out some loser like Rob Schneider. Yes. Not necessarily because he put out a new movie. Correct. No offense to Rob Schneider.

Yeah. We'll love to have him back on. All right. I'm going to go with one of mine. One of mine and one of Stu's. I'll let you guys pick which one. Okay. We can decide which one.

Charles Barkley. Okay. That's a good pick. I mean, Jordan dominated. Right. I mean, he just, he mentally dominated him in the finals. Yeah. But who are you tuning into every week to hear

about their basketball tech? Michael Jordan or Charles Barkley? I might want to host that show he could. I don't think so. Yeah, he could. I don't think so. He could fire everyone. That's my show now.

It's not easy just, you know, turning on a mic and being entertaining. You guys know that. Yeah, you're right. Any asshole can do it. No, they can. That's what you guys, that's the argument you guys are trying to make.

No, I mean, we make that argument every day. By us existing. We are truly assholes with a mic in front of us. And Dua Lipa. Okay. That's your pick. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Stu loves Dua Lipa. Loves Dua Lipa. All right. She's not even the goat of singers. Okay. We got a lot. By the way, so Memes has been helping us out.

Memes has sent us a couple of live, or dead people. Yes. Very dead. Stu has sent me about 35 dead people. Yeah. Memes sent us Walter Payton. He died the next day.

I threw him a homidali. But like, you guys are just going, ah, yeah. What? What are we doing? What are we doing? What do we do wrong this time, Eric? What do we do?

You're perfect. No, this is great. Help us. No, I'm terrible. I'm terrible. I'm terrible. I'm down the worst. Okay.

I think, you know what? Let's let's do this because this one, they can't. Uh, I think we can save the first one you just sent, Memes. I think we could get this one and just rock everyone. He, I mean, that is an objectable, right? All right. Objective? Yeah.

Objective. Unobjectable. Unobjectable. Unimpeachable. Buzz Aldrin. Buzz Aldrin. The man was on the moon. I mean, like, was he though?

Was he? Yeah, he was. Oh, here we go, Billy. Was he? Jesus Christ. He said it first. Is he the last remaining man on the moon, too? I think he is.

Yeah. So, Buzz Aldrin, and also he punched that dude in the face. I feel like Stanley Kubrick should be the living legend. What a fucking legend Buzz Aldrin is. Stanley Kubrick. He's a pretty big man. Oh, you know what's going to happen? Like half the people that we name are going to die.

Yeah. Like, real soon. Yeah. We're definitely jinxing everybody. Oh, the queen. Damn. Okay. Sister Jean, heaven forbid.

Our first pick is going to be Wayne Gretzky. Okay, that we have on the list. Yes, that's a living legend. Yes. And then we're going to go with Marcus LaTrell. Who? Oh, okay. Okay, all right.

Yeah, fellow troop. Yeah. Yeah. Living legend. Mm-hmm. I thought we were going elsewhere. Okay, well, you don't say. Wait, Max, you weren't on the right page.

No, he said he was good with something. Yeah. I just said I was throwing that name also out there. I wasn't, we were good, but I was just saying I was starting that in there. Okay. Marcus LaTrell. All right. Living legend.

I like how you're holding that mic like your camera on. You know, I'm never going to argue against the troops, Billy, but like, there's a lot of people that probably see that name and don't even know what that's from. Well, those are the people that don't matter. Billy, you don't have to hold the mic like your friend Durst. Because I can't. All right. So we went, Michael Jordan, we went Adam Sandler, we went Buzz Aldrin.

So we've done it all. I think we got to finish with a true living legend, Lisa Ann. Yeah. I mean, Lisa Ann is a true living legend. She turned so many boys into men. And she also like every now and then comes out of retirement and it's like an event. And she comes to the office sometimes. And she comes to the office.

She is a living legend. And she's a very nice person. And a very nice person. I shook her hand once. Wow. That's impressive. So how do I even wash your hand? You know, you're just smelling it.

That's why he's holding the mic up to his face so closely. All right. So Hank, finish us off. There's so many living legends. Should I go with one of mine or one of Stu's? Why don't you, why don't you not tell us and then we'll figure out who's it was? Yeah. Mike Tyson.

That's a good pick, Stu. That's a good pick, Stu. It was. Yeah. That was Stu's pick. Very good pick, Stu. Good job, Stu. Oh, he was at the U.S. Open too.

I can't wait to rattle off Stu's list. Sweat in his balls. So all right. So other ones and then we'll finish with Stu's list. Robert De Niro or Al Pacino, both living legends. Absolute living legends. De Niro got political, though. That when you're a living legend, that can affect your legends.

I mean, Muhammad Ali was political his entire life. And also you're kind of proving the point that Michael Jordan was the greatest pick. Oh, yeah. That's true. That's a good pick. Yeah. Okay. That was a good pick.

We had Gretzky as well. But like Hezbollah, objectively, is way bigger. We had Oprah. Oprah was the one I wanted to pick. Oh, Oprah's a good one. Yeah. We had Sabin and Belichick. Dolly Parton.

Yeah, I had Dolly Parton. Dolly is truly a living legend. Pamela Anderson. Alexis, Texas. I had a couple that I knew weren't going to get picked, but I just had to say it in the group chat. Jean-Claude Van Damme and Steven Seagal. We had Arnold.

Let's just keep the suit. Yeah, we had Arnold as well. You know, I went with the Stu Duleepa. If I was going for a women's thing, I would have went with Rihanna. Beyonce. Yeah. But Rihanna's got the ball up. Oh, Stevie Nicks.

Your guy, Jack Nicklaus. No, Jack Nicklaus. Oh, Jack Nicklaus would have been a great pick. Jack Nicklaus. And Jack Nicholson. Jack Nicholson, Guy Fieri. Yep, living legend. Paul McCartney.

This is kind of Steve Irwin. God, he died. He got sung by Stingray. Oh my God. Are you serious? Are you serious? Are you serious? No, we were talking about Steve Irwin.

We talked about Steve Irwin for about 30 minutes yesterday on macro ghosting. He's been so dead for a long time. I know he's dead. But he's a legend. I was thinking of legend. Yeah. That's not the thing.

I was like living legends in honor of Stu Finer, who is very much alive and a living legend. Your source. Pele. Yep. Pele. Len and Donovan. Oh, Ronaldo.

No, Messi. Messi. Meme suggested Hugh Hefner, also very dead. Very dead. Stu suggested that as well. Bret Hart, the best there is, the best there was, the best there ever will be. I mean, that's just the best tagline.

Ric Flair, Willie Mays, Willie Nelson. Willie Mays is not dead. He just, Barry Bonds just took that picture. And I should tweet that right now, actually. I'm going to try to tweet Barry Bonds. Who's Barry Bonds? Who's the guy? Who's the guy on the commercials who passed away?

OxyClean. Billy Mays. Billy. You mistook Willie Mays for Billy Bonds. Yeah, yeah. OK, that's easy. That's easy to do. Ozzie Osborn.

And that's Billy Mays. I had Ozzie. Wow. That's wild. Who's? Should I say Rip Willie Mays or just, just tweet the picture? That's the all-time picture.

He looks dead. Wait, it looks like he's real? So that's real? Yeah, I've never seen that. Wow. Should I say Rip? Oh, Berman. Oh yeah, Chris Berman.

We had that, yeah. All right, here's Stu's list. Stu Finer's living legends list. If some of these people come up twice, I don't know the reason for it. But here we go. This is in a succession of like 10 text messages. Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, LeBron, Tom Seaver,

Billy Smith, Keith Hernandez, Dua Lipa, Joe Montana, Lawrence Taylor, Taylor Swift, John L. Way, Sugar Ray Leonard, Mike Tyson, Ronaldo, Bill Walsh, DeGrom, John Madden, Ken Staibler, Bo Jackson, Deion Sanders, Jerry Rice, Pete Rose, Einstein, Freud, Moses, Jesus, Bruce Springstreet, Phil Collins, Neil Diamond, Marc Spitz, Mike Lupica, Bill Parcells, Derek Cheenor, Joe Tory, Hugh Hefner, Al Pacino, Daniel Day-Lewis, Liam Neeson, Tom Cruise,

Bono, Mike Piazza, Reggie Jackson. Oh, Mike Lupica. Mike Lupica. You want to go with Mitch Album? Yeah, Mike Lupica has got to be. He doesn't like Mitch Album. He's got to be so excited hearing his name on that list. Yeah, fuck.

What a great list. All right. Great show, everyone. We're about to tape with Stu for NFL Futures, which will come out next Wednesday before the kickoff on Thursday. Stu, I think we got it. Yeah. I think you guys got it for sure.

Hasbulla was a great pick. Hasbulla was a fucking great pick. I mean, it will play on the internet. That's the only thing he's thinking. It plays everywhere. No. Michael Jordan has Bula walk in the room. No.

Bula. One's looking way taller. Yeah, exactly. So they're looking down. No, no, no. They see Michael Jordan from across the room because they're like, holy shit, that guy, that's Michael Jordan. No.

Shaq. Shaq's a good one. Shaq is a good one. Shaq is a good one. He's definitely a living legend. Okay. Great show, everyone. Numbers.

Random numbers. 26. 62. 43. Random number. Generator. Hank, will you be upset if you get one of these? Yeah, I will.

It'll be Mickey Mouse. All right. I'm going to go with 27. Three. 56. 56, Arya. Eight. We got the ping pong ball machine sold.

I think that's going to be my key to victory. Oh, hell yeah. Stu, pick a number. Zero to 100. 31. 31. That was quick. Oh, that's your birthday.

That's me and Tiktok. Yeah. Yeah. Birthday bros. Yeah. Okay. Who's that guy on Tiktok? Jackie Robinson.

No. The guy on Tiktok. Oh, Josh. All right. Here we go. Ready? 84. Ah!

Sound guy had 88. Fuck. All right. 84. All right. See everyone on Friday for Jerry O'Connell. Love you guys. Thank you.

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