Pardon My Take - Cal Ripken Jr + Is Jerry Jones Alive?

Episode Date: November 7, 2018

Election night 2018 we're ready to break it all down! Is Jerry Jones alive because the Cowboys are in trouble and no one is doing anything (2:21 -  10:21). Malcom Butler is making Belichick look smar...t again and Jason Witten almost cried (10:21 - 17:29). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Aliens and the Blackhawks firing Joel Quenneville (17:29 - 27:53). Hall of Famer Cal Ripken JR joins the show to talk about his career, when he thought the streak might be in Jeopardy, why he's anti bat flip, and whether or not he's actually alive (27:53 - 68:06). Segments include respect the game Jamal Murray, Hurt or Injured Triple H, just stop talking Jon Gruden Mike Tomlin edition, and Guys on Chicks. You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, ad-free, on Amazon Music. On today's Pardon My Take, we have Hall of Famer, Cal Ripken Jr., very fun interview. I actually think Cal really liked us. He did. He liked us a lot. In fact, when we walked out, he said to me, he was like, I thought you're going to ask
Starting point is 00:00:25 me one question. Yeah, we didn't. And you'll have to listen. You'll have to find out. Yeah, but he liked us. We have the Cowboys in Trouble. I don't know why we always have to brag that our guests liked us. Well, because a lot of guests don't.
Starting point is 00:00:36 So when they do like us, we're like, hey, that guy actually liked us. Good point. Contrary to popular belief, that guy liked us, because a lot of times, people are like, wow, Mark Wahlberg hates these guys. It's like, no, he actually liked us. Cal loves me. Producer Hank just walked away. So we have Hotsie Cool Throne.
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Starting point is 00:02:28 Okay, let's go. Bye! Bye! Now in the street there is violence, and then a lot of stuff will have to be done. No pistol hand, no washing, and then I can't live all on the sun. Oh no, we're gonna run down to electric revenue, and then we'll take it higher. Oh no, we're gonna run down to electric revenue, and then we'll take it higher. Welcome to Part of My Take, presented by SeatGeek.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Today is Wednesday, November 7th, and we are live from the Part of My Take election situation room in Cleveland, Ohio. Swing state. So we're in Cleveland. We've gotten to the swing state. We're actually, we're taking this show, you thought it was going to be a regular show. We're actually just going to only talk about election results, and politics, and who you should have voted for, and whether we agree with you or not.
Starting point is 00:03:35 And here's the deal, big cat. We're coastal elites. We live in New York City, so we want to take this experience to get out of our bubble, and go out to the Rust Belt, and then talk to people in the Rust Belt, tell them how they should vote, because we voted for them. We know what's better for you than you'd know what's for you. I know what's better for everyone. Yeah, and if you don't vote what I like, then fuck you, man.
Starting point is 00:03:56 So check out my sticker. I voted today. Yeah. I didn't, because we're in Ohio. It is one of the funniest days of the year when they start to break down on the map, like how different towns voted. Yes. Like, both Blitzer fucking around with that.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Situation room. With the situation room, doing telestrators. He's like, accidentally drawing penises on the map. Walking around in front of big screens, and serious things are going on. You know what I want? I want them to break it down further. I want them to show me who, on the first floor of each house, which way they voted, and then the grandmother in the basement, she voted this way.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Mm-hmm. And then the people upstairs on the second. Yeah. I want a more comprehensive breakdown of it. So, in all honesty, we're obviously not going to talk about any of that stuff. Well, we are in Ohio. We're at the Cleveland Browns Practice Facility. Yes.
Starting point is 00:04:38 We have something coming next week, so be ready for that. But we're in Ohio. We're still on the road. We talked to people at the voting booths. We actually went to the voting booths, and we handed out $100 bills to everyone who voted for the things that we care about. Well, what I did was I canvassed a bunch of different restaurants this morning, and I went to every server.
Starting point is 00:04:56 And just anybody in the service industry in general, I told them that they'd better make sure to vote today. Yeah. And I will give them an extra 1% tip for every ballot that they cast. Is it too late to do a town hall meeting? I always love those. Yeah. When the politicians, these politicians come from up high where they're sitting in their
Starting point is 00:05:12 ivory castle to talk to the real people. Town hall meeting. Let's do it. I don't think it's ever too late for that. Yeah. All right. Well, important stuff. The Cowboys stink.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Yeah. And Jerry Jones is either dead or has no idea what's going on anymore. He actually has changed the narrative on everyone because he's so scared of firing Jason Garrett and not having full control of his team. So he, after the game Monday Football Game said, Dak is still my quarterback. Yeah. Well, that's actually not the problem right now. Dak is not good, but Jason Garrett's the problem.
Starting point is 00:05:47 It's interesting that you went that direction with the take because the note I made when I was watching the game is Jerry Jones is not making the calls anymore. I think he's a figurehead right now. He's the emperor with no clothes. Who is? The guy that wipes his glasses off. Stephen. Stephen Jones.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Stephen Jones, it's been, he's taken over the kingdom from his father. It's like at the end of Braveheart where the old guy's dying and the son's making the calls. Yeah. So this is not Jerry Jones. Jerry Jones, he's either lost it or he's lost his own locker room. He's lost his own brain because like he, the Jerry Jones I know and love has like escorts up in his suite and he's banging them.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Flip phones. Flip phones. He's firing a coach every six months. He's like doing the thing where he looms on the sideline behind him during an unacceptable game. His wife is in a different suite. Yeah. He always separates the suites.
Starting point is 00:06:35 It's like, you know, a couple from the 1950s who have different beds. Yeah. He's like, well, you don't know what's going to happen in this suite. So why don't you stay over there? Did you notice that in the background, he has like the behind the scenes feed of all the different camera angles in his suite. Interesting. Not just the ESPN feed.
Starting point is 00:06:51 Either way, the Cowboys are a mess and it is beautiful to watch. So credit to ESPN. I know the Monday night football crew has not been great. Jason Witton showed some robot tears. They like actually tried to get him to cry. He pressed his eyeballs. Yeah. He touched his eyes.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Like, all right, Jason, now touch your eye. All time night, by the way, of Jason and Booger going after each other because Jason was home and everyone was cheering for him. He was like, you didn't get to say the proper goodbye. So it was an emotional night for, well, no, it wasn't an emotional night. It was supposed to be an emotional night if Jason Witton was a real human being. Right. It had been programmed to have tears.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Yeah. Credit to ESPN for doing just the last like five minutes of the game, an unbelievable montage of sad and frustrated Cowboys. Yeah, that was great. It was fantastic. Yeah. And Jason Witton, he did show a little bit of emotion in the second half. The trick to getting Jason Witton to show emotion is to make him believe that the Cowboys
Starting point is 00:07:43 have been slighted in some way. And so there was like a, I think it was a hit on Marriota where it was like helmet to helmet. Yeah. And they called it a penalty. He was like, that is just the biggest bunch of garbage I've ever seen. It's like, OK, now I see you, Jason. Yeah. Now I see what really grinds your gears.
Starting point is 00:07:57 Yeah. I kind of like it when you're angry, Jason. Yeah. The other thing that the Cowboys, the media does with the Cowboys. Because they want the Cowboys to be included as late as possible. I just, the narrative today is basically nine and seven can win the NFC. So the Cowboys aren't out of it. It's like, no, I watched that game.
Starting point is 00:08:15 The Cowboys fucking stink. And it's absolutely hilarious that they thought they were in a Marri Cooper away from a Superbowl. I would like to give some thoughts and prayers to our close personal friend Skip Bayless. He took last night's loss pretty hard. Like it seems like Skip has, he's a good friend. Pretty hard. It seems like Skip has, he's held on longer than most to the fact that the Cowboys might be a good team.
Starting point is 00:08:37 Yeah. He still thinks that they're, every year, at the beginning of the year, he thinks that they're going to win the Superbowl. Yeah. He legitimately believes that. And that's what I love about Skip. And now it's like, his whole world has come crashing down upon him. And like, mommy and daddy didn't really love each other this whole time.
Starting point is 00:08:51 And he's like, oh my god. He was throwing away his Dak Prescott jersey this morning. Not only that. He threw it into the trash. Not only that, but Stephen A. Smith has been proven correct on all of his anti-Cowboy takes. Yes. So it's a double whammy and he can't debate him tomorrow about it.
Starting point is 00:09:07 So Skip, we're thinking about you. It's a tough time. I know you'll get through it by, you'll get to watch LeBron. Maybe something, LeBron will get Luke Walton fired. And you'll have, you'll be, you'll bounce back there. Man, I really wish that LeBron, well, we'll get to this later, but I really wish that LeBron was the one that tried to go for the 50 burger last night just to get, that would be such a gift for a Skip Bayless.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Yes. LeBron, I mean, here's the thing LeBron, let me tell you something. The reason you make so much money is because a guy's like Skip Bayless. True. That amplify and signal boost your name. Yes. Okay. So maybe throw him a bone and do something a little bit selfish tonight.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Like, I don't know, have your, have your daughter just like pass out drunk in a court side seat. Yeah. With a bag of Francia on her face and then give him someone to talk about. Yeah, I like that. The other, the other story we had from that game. No bell check remains undefeated by making the right personnel moves because Malcolm Butler fucking stinks.
Starting point is 00:09:59 He's terrible. He's so bad. He's been terrible. This reminds me when, when I was in college, I remember one day I was walking down the street and I saw a couch on the, on the, uh, uh, like on the street and I was like, Oh, fuck. Nice. Sweet.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Like this is a free couch. And I sat on it and I was like, all right, I'm going to come back and get it. And as I was doing that, someone came to the door and they're like, Hey, just a heads up. All over that couch last night. And I was like, Oh, okay. That's why the couch is on the, on the street. That's Bill Belichick.
Starting point is 00:10:25 When he cuts a guy or doesn't play a guy, he's basically throwing his furniture out and only fools will walk by and say, Oh sweet, free couch. Let me get this couch. You know, it's weird that you say that because I did that one time, but I actually took the couch. He peed on the couch. I know. Well, I have done that.
Starting point is 00:10:41 I laid on the couch outside and they were like, Hey, someone peed on that. Yeah, I didn't. Well, it could have been peed on unconfirmed, but I brought it into my house and then I sat down on it and then I was like, this couch, this couch itches. Yeah. And I looked at it and it had bed bugs. Yeah. And so I immediately took it right outside.
Starting point is 00:10:55 You're the, you're the titans. So Belichick gave me bed bugs. You are the titans. Yes. You should not have signed Malcolm Butler. Well, even worse because he duped over his own former player. What's even worse is that he should be on the New Orleans Saints right now. And that defense would be a lot worse if Malcolm Butler was on it.
Starting point is 00:11:08 So let's make sure that we credit. Oh, by the way, credit to us. Des Bryant visited the Saints last night. So we were only what six months early on reporting that nice. Now we just need Michael Vick to go to the Vikings. The Vikings last two years ago. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, but yeah, Malcolm Butler is, he is really bad.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Like his hips just don't work anymore. His hips don't lie. No, they don't move. His hips don't lie. They don't move. No, they lie. They don't open. They lie.
Starting point is 00:11:34 He can't open. He can't release his hips. His hips lie. They do not lie anymore. No, they lie. They lie? Yeah. Because you would think that they're good.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Oh no, if you watch them, they're not. They don't lie. His hips, they're not as liquid. They need to release a little oil. His not lying is a good thing. No, not November is a bad month for Malcolm Butler. You have it so hips lying. Oh, guys, you were saying, got it.
Starting point is 00:11:53 His hips, okay. Like Shakira's hips don't lie. All right. This is just a problem because I watch you all 22 and you don't. Got it. All right. So hips don't, his hips do lie. His hips lie.
Starting point is 00:12:01 His hips are a liar. Because he has them and his play would say otherwise. Correct. Got it. Also, Mike Vrable held the job with the Titans because that offense doesn't do so well, but they were doing some stuff. Like they were, you know, the shovel pass touchdown. That was nice.
Starting point is 00:12:17 I love that. But the Titans are that team where sometimes it feels like they're playing their own game, not the game of football. They're playing their own game. How many plays can we run without scoring points? It's like, all right, can we get to 14 plays without getting into the end zone? Yeah. They love six yards, seven yard games.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Yeah. It's fun though, watching Henry and Dionne Lewis. So they're like the Aaron judge and the Jose Altuve of the DNFL, except they share a backfield with one's big, one's small. Yeah. They need a nickname. That's the only thing that they're missing right now. The P&T boys.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Oh. Smash and dash. Smash and dash. Thunder and lightning. There you go. Shake and bake. We credit us. Dionne and Freon.
Starting point is 00:12:56 Do they have rookie coach head coach of the year? No. Okay. Well, Mike Vrable is my rookie head coach of the year. Okay. So I'm just saying that's over right now. Actually, no, Matt Nagy. Fuck.
Starting point is 00:13:05 Yeah. Mike Vrable is my AFC rookie head coach of the year. Two of them. There we go. It's the golden gloves. Who else is he going up to? John Gruden. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Yes. That's true. John Gruden. John Gruden. Who else is competing for that title? It's John Gruden. Greg Williams now. Yes.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Greg Williams. Absolutely. People forget. Greg Williams is now the head coach. I don't know. In this building. It's probably here right now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:30 Hey, Greg. Be careful. Be careful. We should just lay out some bounty paper. Well, I was going to say, we'll just take off my hat and just start throwing cash in it. Yeah. And eventually they'll just show up and be like, you guys doing a bounty?
Starting point is 00:13:42 Cut off the head. All right. Let's do some hot seat cool throwing before we get to Cal Ripken, Jr. PFT. Why don't you start? Okay. My hot seat. I'm very concerned.
Starting point is 00:13:53 He's going to steal mine. Hank, why don't you? Rock, paper, scissors, shoot. I'll just go first. Rock, paper, scissors, shoot for it. One time. Rock, paper, scissors, shoot. Rock, paper, scissors, shoot.
Starting point is 00:14:01 You say rocks. PFT won. Hank goes rocks. Yeah. Hank's a plural guy. Okay. There's only one. My hot seat is Earth.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Is that really yours? I knew he was going to do it. All right. You know what's funny is I wasn't going to do that until Hank said that. It was actually on my cool throne. Okay. My hot seat's Earth. More creative brain than you.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Because the nerds at Harvard say that aliens might have visited us. Oh, actually I can do it. A couple months ago. It's my cool throne. On a spaceship. Okay. That flew by. I guess it flew like really close to the sun.
Starting point is 00:14:30 So Harvard thinks that it was aliens that visited us. I'm not so sure that it was. A couple months ago? It wasn't visit. They sent a probe. Yeah. It was my hot seat. You can explain when you get to yours.
Starting point is 00:14:41 But it was just, if you see the pictures of it, it just looks like a giant rock that flew by the sun. So it was a con. And so, well, this goes back to my theory. Josh Allen was doing his pre-draft workouts around that time. Yeah. So this goes back to my theory that NASA is just inventing cool shit to talk about so they can continue their funding because right now they're going up against Space Force.
Starting point is 00:14:59 But I would assume that, like this would be something that Space Force would really get a lot of money thrown into their coffers for. Right. If you think that there's aliens that are actually checking us out. Yeah. This is why we have Space Force. Okay. Great invention.
Starting point is 00:15:12 My other hot seat is my backpack. So the strap broke. Very relatable. The strap broke on my backpack. I don't know if anybody out there owns a backpack company. But it's tough. Like I got all these takes to carry around. I got all this gear.
Starting point is 00:15:23 And it's hard when you're on the road. And so I tied it. The swag pack. It's red. It's bright red. I tied it off just like I was shooting up. But you know, it starts to loosen up a little bit. PFTs seem to have a lot of red stuff on election day.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Yeah, I do. I do. I'm not mad. I hang. But but I do have a lot of red stuff because it's the color of raising money for AIDS awareness. So I was very disappointed to see that with the new Queen movie that came out with Freddie Mercury, they don't raise really any awareness. Spoilers.
Starting point is 00:15:51 So I'm trying to raise awareness. Okay. Okay. So sorry for saving lives. All right. My cool throne. Well, let's see. I did have.
Starting point is 00:15:59 I did have Bill Belichick, but we already got to that. So instead, my cool throne is going to be keeping beers outside. So we're back in the best time of year. Yep. Well, it's actually the worst time of year because it gets dark at like 430 and you wake up and it's shitty. But the one silver lining is you can keep your beers outside now and it stays cold. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:19 Nature's Icebox is open for business. I like that. That's absolutely the best way. You just pop up, pop a few beers. Well, none of us have porches because we live in New York City as a shithole. But if you did have a porch, I've got a fire escape. Okay. So there you go.
Starting point is 00:16:32 The rats will get to it. Yeah. But still, but still, it's cool. They'll only there'll be drunk rats walking around. Yeah. And that's fun to watch. Yeah. My hot seat is anyone who's ever taken an Uber ever.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Go on. I don't know if you guys saw this, but the Uber driver filmed the Senators players. A bunch of guys were in the Uber together and he filmed them without them really like knowing he was like, he films on my guess they do it for security purposes in case anything happened. Yeah, this is bullshit. Nothing happened. They didn't do anything wrong.
Starting point is 00:16:59 They didn't commit any violations. And the Uber driver took the tape where all the players like talking shit about their teammates, players, just guy stuff, locker room talk. Yeah, the most part. It wasn't like Ryan Whitney, our correspondent basically said that everyone that's ever played hockey does the same shit. But he put it out like, act like assholes. So so Ryan, when he's been like, every, he's taught, he's talked shit about us before.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's getting out in front of that story. It's just a rough couple of months to be a Senator. Yeah. Like people are yelling at you in restaurants, they're videotaping you in Ubers. They're the new most persecuted class of people is United States Congress.
Starting point is 00:17:30 Absolutely true. I don't know if I don't know if there's any discipline to the players, but it's obviously I mean, it's got to be awkward the next day. You think very awkward in time. So never say anything in an Uber ever again. That's the lesson. Yeah. I think that's fair.
Starting point is 00:17:49 Yeah. Yeah. That's bullshit though. You should they should like, you should have to sign a consent form for being filmed in an Uber. I agree with that. Yeah. Well, they it's one of those situations where they have the sign on the outside that said
Starting point is 00:17:59 like buy in. It's like you're going into a reality show. Yeah. You walk into an Uber, which by the way, stay woke. Uber's been losing a lot of money recently, market share to lift, different cab apps coming out. That keeps me out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:11 This might be just like a new, a new rev share model for for Uber is like they're getting to the line of business of creating viral content. Well, what about the that already exists though? Remember the Taxi Cap? No, the porn series where they fucked in the back of the cab. That was awesome. Bank bus. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:27 No, not paying bus. It's a spin off. They just fucking the back of cabs. It's awesome. But it's the big cabs that are weird and they're like, they're like mini vans, but there's no middle seat. So you have a lot of room. Wheelchair accessible.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Yeah. I like that. Anybody can fuck. But the people fucking are not in wheelchairs. But they could be. That's the whole point. If they if they there's enough room for them to be in a wheelchair if they wanted to. But what I'm saying is like Uber is now they saw how how great Taxi Cap confessions did
Starting point is 00:18:53 on HBO back in the day. And so now they're just getting into that line of work. I like diversifying your business model. Yeah. Every company should dabble a little bit in porn. Yeah. In illegal recording. Yes.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Yes. And my cool throne. It was aliens. P.F.T. stole that from me. Oh damn. But my other cool throne is people who don't know what to buy their friends and family for Christmas. Mmm.
Starting point is 00:19:13 You're on the cool throne because we are putting out ugly sweaters as of today. So you don't have to worry about it getting there in time. It's going to get there today in time. We got this is an unveiling. Oh, we've never seen this. Ugly sweaters. Oh, fuck yes. Let's see.
Starting point is 00:19:25 Hey guys. That's a big Ben walking. That's a football guys with Larry the Goldfish. Sheesh. Sheesh. Wine shirt. A sorry shirt. Coach.
Starting point is 00:19:37 Oh, yes. Larry the Goldfish. That looks good. These are awesome. Hey, Ben. So everyone check out. Hey, Ben. I'll fit right under your tree.
Starting point is 00:19:45 Just as pretty as you please. Hey, Ben. I thought you said you got skinny. Why'd you only get a double XL? So those are going on sale today. You can buy her today. It's guaranteed to get there by Christmas if you order it this week. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Speaking of ugly sweaters. Just plenty of time. How about Patrick Ewing? What about him? He's ugly and he sweats a lot. Oh, nice. Wow. That was really mean.
Starting point is 00:20:05 Speaking of ugly, that was very ugly. Didn't we talk about the other day like don't start bashing players like 10 years later? No, he's a coach now. Yeah, I know. He doesn't sweat as much. Big Cat, he's in the position of authority. Have you ever seen Buzz Williams? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:17 Oh, yeah. That's Buzz Williams. Big sweat. Patrick doesn't move a lot. If you don't think Patrick's going to be going through a few dress shirts per game. He doesn't move a lot. He just sits there. Patrick points his fingers.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Hit up Jose Bank. OK. My hot seats. I got two. The first is Stan Bowman because I have to mention this. The Blackhawks fired Joel Kwonville. The best coach they've ever had. Cute.
Starting point is 00:20:37 Is that true? Yeah, it is. And Stan Bowman is left being like a little rat who won his Game of Thrones shout out Barstow Chief. He won a game. I don't watch the show, but he said it was like Game of Thrones. So I just assumed there was a power play. It's always not.
Starting point is 00:20:52 That was kind of funny. It wasn't that funny. It was very funny. Put in a laugh track. It's always funny watching like the power struggle in a front office and how it all shakes out because now Stan Bowman, you're on the hot seat. If you get a guy fired, you better fix it fast, otherwise you're going to get fired. Just hypothetically, maybe there might be one or two listeners to this show that don't
Starting point is 00:21:15 know the like complicated power dynamics of the Chicago Blackhawks front office. Yep. Can you please explain to me what the hell is going on? Stan Bowman is the GM and he fired the coach. So now he basically bought himself some extra time, which is ultimately going to bite him in the ass too. Right. Because he's going to bring in a coach and then there's going to be eventually like a
Starting point is 00:21:35 power struggle there. It's like, OK, you're the comment denominator. The roster's not like at a point where it's going to win. Because the cap didn't go up. Correct. Because the loon went down. Yeah. Fuck you, Canada.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Yeah, exactly. That's a little salary cap special for you there. Canada's money didn't go up. They signed Jonathan Taze, Patrick Kane, thinking the cap would go up. It never went up, kind of fucked. Because Canada's economy wasn't strong enough and the loon deflated. Because that Justin Trudeau guy, he's too hot to be a politician. Yep.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Too hot. Ever since they got just got darling, they were headed for the, headed for the dumps. And Patrick Sharp, well, he retired. Cool. Oh, sorry. My other hot seat is Max Kellerman because Stephen A. Smith and Michael Irvin was the greatest television I've ever watched in my entire life. If you didn't see it, they were screaming at each other on first take before the Monday
Starting point is 00:22:25 night football game. Max Kellerman was just sitting there silently thinking like, wow, I should say something. And then every time he said something, he's like, well, why the hell is that guy here? Because these two other guys are wildly entertaining. Listen, here's the thing. If you're sitting next to two guys that are screaming at each other and both need towels because they're screaming at each other so much and you're not sweating, you're the odd man out.
Starting point is 00:22:47 You are bringing that television show down. The quality of entertainment is coming from the guy that has his own corner. Michael Irvin is the only person that I've ever seen that had a cut man for being on first take. And I don't know why the hell we haven't seen that before. Yeah. Well, people haven't worked as hard as he has. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:03 Or done, whatever. I want somebody allegedly allegedly that time. Yes. Yes. He lines everything up for himself. That's what we're saying. He's been lined up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:13 I like to see a corner man, a cut man, with like a bucket that the guys could spit into on first take, on undisputed, treated like a boxing match. Yeah. That's where it is. That's exactly what it is. My cool throne is people who enjoy real basketball. So college basketball is back. And the Mella Balls go back to high school.
Starting point is 00:23:32 And the Mella Balls go back to high school. If you want to watch fundamentals, if you want to watch guys give their effort all the time, miss a bunch of threes that are actually shorter, closer to the rim, and games where the refs get to decide everything because there's only five fouls, college basketball is back. I do love college basketball. But it does mean more to the guys out there. Yeah, it does.
Starting point is 00:23:50 And I also love this month of college basketball because you get the crazy gambling games where there'll be a game on an aircraft carrier. There'll be a game in a ballroom in like Barbados. There's a game in a small gym in Hawaii. You've got coaches wearing lays in Hawaiian shirts. It's the best. It's the best. This is the best time.
Starting point is 00:24:09 I mean, besides March, this is the best time to bet on college basketball because it's just like there's games at all hours or games everywhere. They're playing in different locations. It's so much fun to bet on and I'm happy it's back and it's Duke's year. Big time. Duke is going to win the national mark this down, write this down, post it will replay this in the spring. Duke is going to win the national title guarantee big cat guarantee.
Starting point is 00:24:33 There's nothing that will stop them except for Kentucky unless AOC gets injured. Nothing that will stop them. Nothing Hank. Don't even play the season. What's the point? You just love Duke so much. It's kind of annoying. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:24:46 I'm a huge Duke guy. Hank, are you a little bit pissed off that big cat swagger jacked your Duke Thunder? No, absolutely. Welcome aboard. Yeah. We're just fucking doing it. Yeah. I mean, he didn't go there.
Starting point is 00:24:57 So it's kind of annoying, but like I'll take him. I'll take him off. Right. I just love Duke. Yeah. He's the best. Big time fair weather guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:05 I'm looking forward to Tom Kreen in a Hawaiian shirt. I don't know if he's coaching in Hawaii at all. Probably not. I don't know if he's coaching in Hawaii. I would like to see Tom Kreen back wear a Hawaiian shirt. Yes. All right. Let's get to our interview with Cal Ripken, Jr. just a reminder.
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Starting point is 00:28:14 Thank you very much, Cal, for showing up. Appreciate it. You always, you know, you're a dependable guy, I'd say. Right? I used to be dependable. Okay, all right, well, we'll get into that. But before we do that, I want to talk quickly about your foundation, the Cal Ripken Senior Foundation, where you are building turf baseball fields across the country.
Starting point is 00:28:32 You want to talk a little bit about that? That sounds awesome. Sure, it's, the easy part is, when my dad died of lung cancer at 63, my brother Billy and I tried to figure out what was his legacy of his life, and his legacy of his life was helping kids. I mean, he helped kids get to the big leagues in the form of his job, but he also used baseball to go into these neighborhoods, did free clinics to get their attention and kind of match them up with mentors to give them a positive direction in life.
Starting point is 00:28:58 So we created a foundation called the Cal Ripken Senior Foundation, where we used just that. It's not a new, new idea, because the magic of sports has been used in that fashion a lot. But we've had a lot of success. We've gone from a regional foundation where we're helping hundreds of kids to now a national foundation where we're helping, last year I think we had an impact on a million four. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:29:20 And one of the great things that we've done is build these fields. We've built 81, we call them youth development parks all around the country. You're sort of in the spirit of baseball, but it's a place to administer our programs in a safe environment. We discovered that many of these places didn't have those places to continue these programs, and we wanted to provide those. And we found that they've been pretty transformational because the synthetic fields are so nice. Sometimes they cost about a million, a million four to put these in, and the community embraces
Starting point is 00:29:53 them. And it pushes the element away that can influence some of the kids, and it gives a protected safe place for the kids to do it. So we're very proud of, I never thought we'd be a national foundation, but we were able to help a whole lot more kids as a result. And it's a double threat because you get all those tires that would be sitting out in a junkyard, they get ground up and put in on the field turf. So you're reducing plastic waste as well.
Starting point is 00:30:16 I never thought of it that way. You're saving sea turtles. Take credit for that too. I know that we used to build grass and dirt fields, and during the ribbon cutting ceremonies, we'd cut it, and we'd all be happy and proud of it. Then if you come back about six months later, it turns back into an error. The ground screw didn't really get on top of it. You need like a forest gump guy who just does it as a hobby, now that he's old and rich
Starting point is 00:30:36 to go out there and cut it. So thank you for joining us, by the way. And like I said, you are dependable. Are you saying you're not dependable anymore? You're the Iron Man. Yeah, I don't have to live to that schedule anymore, where you come to the ballpark 162 games and you play every day. I can make my own schedule now.
Starting point is 00:30:53 So I guess I'm accountable to me, but I'm not showing up for work every single day. So your record, the most consecutive games played in Major League Baseball history, and I think sports history, it has to be sports history, because you guys play so many games. Do you think it's the most unbreakable record in all sports? Because I actually, I would say it's either that or Joe DiMaggio's hit record. Yeah, I agree. My longest hitting streak was 16 games. And so to think somebody could go 56 games without going 0 for 4 is amazing to me.
Starting point is 00:31:26 So and I think the pressure of the consecutive games hitting streak, because of the media and coverage and the scrutiny, that creates more pressure. And so I think that's almost unattainable. But I think it could happen. And I look at what I did, not necessarily as unbreakable, because I did it. And so if I can do it, I'm thinking, okay, why can't somebody else? But it's a different game. I think I guys take in breaks, they manage the innings, they manage the time played a
Starting point is 00:31:50 little bit differently than they did in the 80s. Millennials are taking over. That's right. Yeah. You have to take a Fortnite break because their eyes are strained from staring at the television. It is a new time. You're right. And they look at, you know, maybe an everyday player is now 145, as opposed to 162.
Starting point is 00:32:05 And I want to get the best 145 out of you that I can, and we'll manage the other games. So I mean, I think you're right. And they almost seem like they can predict injury now. The medical advances have become to a point where you're looking at, okay, your hamstring is getting ready to tweak, but I'd give you two or three days off before it goes. Do you think if you played in this day and age, you would take more breaks or you think you would try to power through it? I mean, because you're right.
Starting point is 00:32:30 I think the medical stuff, I think there's a lot of data that's like, hey, look, you got to give your guys a rest every couple of weeks. Would you fall in line with that? Or would you be like, you know what, I'm going to keep playing? I hope I wouldn't fall in line with that. I mean, I look back and say, okay, could I have been a better player if I took days off? Most of that outdid creep in every now and then.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Most people think of their career saying, okay, I wish I would have played more and I wish I'd have taken it more seriously. But I look back and go, God, maybe I should have taken some days off. But I know that if I handpicked 10 days off a year, if I told you, if I came to the ballpark and said, okay, I'm going to take this off, it would probably be when I'm struggling. It'd probably be when I was facing a pitcher that was very difficult for me to hit. And chances are I'm not going to hit him as well. I probably could have impacted my stats and my average.
Starting point is 00:33:13 But I hope that I wouldn't succumb to that because it seems like that's a different approach. I think the 162 schedule can come down to one game, whether you make the playoffs or not. And that one game can happen in April, May, June, July, or August. If you just look at it, it could happen anywhere. And I think that certain players have an intangible value that's not measurable in the way that they're measuring everything nowadays. I like this.
Starting point is 00:33:41 This is get rid of the sabermetric nerds. Give us the intangibles. Yeah. But I mean, like Eddie Murray was our fourth hitter. Right. He could be 0 for 50. And I don't think Eddie ever went 0 for 50. But if Eddie was not in our lineup, we felt like we didn't have a good lineup.
Starting point is 00:33:55 He stabilized the whole lineup and I hit in front of him. So I benefited a lot from that. And he always made the manager and the other team impacted on what he was going to do, whether you take his pitcher out or bring a bullpen in. He affected that manager's decision. So were there ever any guys that would come up through the system that would, I mean, obviously you were well liked by your teammates. You'd have to be to stick around that long, I would imagine.
Starting point is 00:34:17 Were there ever any guys that would come up that would be like, come on, Cal, just take a day off. Let me just crack the lineup one time. We had a few guys that says, you're making us look bad. We all want to take off days, but then we don't feel like we can. And so you're like a start-up in Silicon Valley where everyone's like, you're like a start-up in Silicon Valley where everyone works, you know, 20 hours a day and then it becomes the office culture and everyone gets burnt out.
Starting point is 00:34:40 So well, I don't know if I got burnt out or not. There were times, but I always took that as sort of a joke in some ways. I always thought that the, your work ethic was always a positive, a positive impact on the team. Not to brag. We haven't missed a podcast in like two and a half years. Yeah, there you go. Which is more impressive.
Starting point is 00:34:57 You playing 2,000, whatever it is, games or us doing like what, 200 podcasts in a row? Well my brother, Billy has the gift of gab and he's actually successful on MLB network and he's won an Emmy award for his analysis. So he's big time. Okay. And so he has the gift of gab and it sounds like to me, you guys have the gift of gab. So it would be much more difficult for me to talk, you know, that many times. There are days where we're like, man, I'm tired.
Starting point is 00:35:23 We got to hit the greenie coffee in the kitchen to get up for it. Yeah, it's tough. It's game change. So are they drug testing it? No, it's actually encouraged if you're podcasting. You know, can we actually, look, we, I got, I don't know how I'm going to phrase this, but PFT and I have been doing this podcast together for almost three years now. We've known each other for about six and we, when we didn't know each other, we had just
Starting point is 00:35:45 met the first time we ever met. We were having a beer and we had a lot of times where we had parallel thought where people would say, Oh, that tweet looks like, you know, PFT's tweet to me and then vice versa. And when we were sitting there having a beer, we, we both came up with the theory. Why doesn't anyone talk about Cal Ripken with steroids? Not that you did them because I know you didn't, but it just would be a fun thing to bring up. So I want to apologize.
Starting point is 00:36:09 I wouldn't think that's a fun thing to bring up. It's not fun. It's not fun. But think that was apologizing. It was apologizing. Yeah. For us ever having that thought. Right.
Starting point is 00:36:17 It's like a dumb thought. It's more just like how hard like no one's thinking about it. That makes sense. And I guess for someone that's been in it, it kind of bothers me that when they look back, said it was the steroid era. Right. And then therefore it kind of takes away your accomplishments during that time or in comparatively your numbers compared to someone else's numbers that might have achieved it.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Not the same way. Yeah. It, it makes a light of your accomplishments. So it's always bugged me a little bit. The problem is you don't, no one knows the whole story. You know, no one knows when or if they've done it or not. Yeah. But it still, it feels, it makes me feel bad when you think that the, that people look
Starting point is 00:36:54 at the sport and think that a large percentage of them was doing it. Did you ever have a moment where you kind of either knew something was going on with some of your teammates or maybe some of the guys you were playing with, you know, one guy comes back the next season and he's, you know, 50 pounds heavier and he looks like he can bench press 3000 pounds. Any moments like that where you're like, huh, this is kind of weird. Something's going on. You know, looking back with the benefit hindsight, there were a few times when you look at it
Starting point is 00:37:18 and you question, you know how hard you worked out in the off season. I mean, I built a gym at my house. I lived in the gym at my house. I tried to make gains and you made some gains. And then there were players that you looked at and you went, wait a minute, he's totally different than he was last year. And so you would be suspicious, but no one really knew. Right.
Starting point is 00:37:34 It's not what sometimes it's being portrayed is that it was out and open right in the middle of the club. Be passed around. Jose can say, go say like if you slapped a guy in the butt, you knew that he'd have like a pin mark on there. Yeah. I didn't hear that one. Did you read Jose's book?
Starting point is 00:37:48 Well, I did not. Jose tells a tall tale. I read Jose's book when it came out and it was filled with spelling errors. It was, it was insane. I don't know how it got published, but it was filled with spelling errors and he, he has a strong dislike for you. I don't know if you knew that about me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:02 Because he, he saw you as being like the guy who was like, you know, the spotlight was on you. You played the right way and then meanwhile Jose for some reason was treated like a pariah out in Oakland. Right. Like for some reason he was looked at as the dirty guy with, you know, maybe it's because you and your brother didn't beat up anybody in South Beach. Like three times.
Starting point is 00:38:19 I just remember there was one quote in his book that somebody brought to me at one point that said that I answer questions as if I, I'd have to get a focus group to, to find out what, what, what I should say and then say it. Yeah. That's usually what an asshole just says. So I feel, I feel good. I feel good that that was put in the book. You're so polite.
Starting point is 00:38:39 Do you think that, uh, what about, uh, steroid users, known steroid users being in the whole thing? Well, that's a big issue that's, uh, that's coming up again. The voters, uh, and I guess I'm glad I'm not a voter in some ways because you have to determine what's real and what's not real, what numbers are compiled and what, what they aren't. And without the full knowledge of the story, how do you, how do you make that? Right. Um, but I think anybody that has that shadow, um, over their head, um, people have to be
Starting point is 00:39:07 skeptical. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what the answer is, but I know that that's a bigger issue. Um, I know Joe Morgan wrote a letter, um, pretty compelled letter, um, last year to the editor or, um, kind of making an appeal that, uh, it's not okay to put, uh, known guys in the, uh, hall of fame. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:26 So we'll see what happens. Yeah. I want to jump back real quick to the streak, something that you probably don't talk about that much is, uh, your consecutive games played streak, but, um, the, uh, there was one day that you almost missed a game and that was when you had the, it was the birth of your son. Yeah. But it happened to happen like on an off day, just like very coincidentally.
Starting point is 00:39:44 And now I'm curious what would happen if that was on a game day in retrospect, would you have missed a game? Um, I, I deliver a speech where I, uh, I, uh, fudged that story a little bit to make a point in a speech. Take news. And so, uh, well, not really, but the, um, the, I remember, uh, the streak, um, um, there was a lot of critics on the streak, uh, especially in between about 1200 games and 1800 games.
Starting point is 00:40:11 And every time I'd be in a slump, somebody would say that I'm being selfish and I couldn't play and all that kind of stuff. Yeah. Um, and I remember, uh, feeling that way, but once it got close to the record, all my critics turned positive again and they were all saying this, the cows got to break this record no matter what, you know, uh, you know, and at the time, um, my son was, uh, my wife was pregnant with, uh, with my second child, which was my son. My first child, Rach was born in the off season in November.
Starting point is 00:40:37 So it's perfect time to have a child. Yeah. Um, uh, my second son was born in the middle of July. Um, and that probably is the worst time for your baseball player to have a, have a child. Um, Brian was really big. He was nine, nine pounds plus nine, six or nine, eight or something. And he was still two weeks early.
Starting point is 00:40:55 And so they, uh, they thought that it was dangerous to have him in there. So, um, the doctor wouldn't have a C-section and it just so happened that the timing was such where you could schedule the C-section on a off day in between Minnesota and Toronto. That's during the all star break. So I flew home for the, uh, for the birth of my son, which was really cool. I spent the day with him the next day I flew on to Toronto and, uh, as luck would have it, I hit a three run home in the ninth inning to put his head.
Starting point is 00:41:21 There you go. And you also had the moment when the all star game where you broke your nose, right? That was another moment. You've been doing way too much reading. But you, but you, like someone, someone broke your nose during pictures, right? And that was another, it's an embarrassing sort of moment. But, uh, yeah, we all stood up on these big, um, um, platforms.
Starting point is 00:41:40 And after the picture was over, you're walking down on the platform. I was in the back row. Um, Roberto Hernandez was, uh, still in the back row. Um, and, uh, and so I was walking down from, uh, from there. He stepped on the, uh, platform that, that teetered a little bit and he thought he was going to fall. So he threw his fist back, you know, to catch his balance, you know, because all of a sudden it surprised him and I happened to be standing right
Starting point is 00:42:05 behind him. So he back fisted me in the nose. It pushed my nose across my face and was stuck. It was stuck that way. And, uh, it hurt and the trainer, the trainer ended up pushing it back in. I heard a loud pop, but it didn't go all the way back in. So I played in the game and, uh, cause you don't play with your nose. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Um, as long as I could see, I'd be all right. So I played and then I went back to the rest of the, uh, season, um, I'll keep going, I'll, uh, the rest. So I, the second half started and my nose was still out, out of whack. So I played a Sunday day game in Baltimore and I scheduled a time with it, uh, ear, ear, nose and, uh, throat doctor that, uh, that could go in there and pull it out. So it felt like they put some sort of thing in my nose that pulled it
Starting point is 00:42:49 straight out and clicked it back in loud pop. And I was all right. I mean, you got to get it rebroken. Yeah. It's pretty much the same thing happened to me. The sound that it makes after it's already healed for like a week is not something you ever forget. Cause I said, I said, does that my nose?
Starting point is 00:43:03 Cause it was a loud sound, but it was good. I mean, if your streak had been broken by that story, it almost would have been. It would have been worth it. You know, the funny part and the ridiculous part to me is the word spread around, uh, Philadelphia really quickly and the thing. And I had to go into the interview room and do a interview because I broke my nose on a team picture. That's fantastic.
Starting point is 00:43:24 The answer to questions for that. Um, so during the course of your career and actually during the streak, uh, you had to deal with the strike with the labor negotiation. What was that like dealing not only with the fans, because I feel like at the time there were a lot of fans that were putting it all on the baseball players. It was like the first big labor, uh, strife that we've had in that generation at least. So you've got, you've got fans putting it all on you and then you're dealing
Starting point is 00:43:46 with, you know, the media, you're dealing with the, uh, the replacement players as well and the owners. What was that period like for you? Yeah, that was interesting because, uh, yes, the collective bargaining process at that time, when I first came in, a matter of fact, I came to the big leagues after the strike was over in 81. So they expanded the rosters by two and that, that was my entry into the big leagues.
Starting point is 00:44:07 And so different, at different times in the collective bargaining agreement came due, um, there were strikes, um, threats of strikes and lockouts and those sorts of things, but kind of small. Um, but then, uh, in the 94 season, um, the, the players went on strike, um, August 12th or something like that. And then the world series was canceled. So you're going into the 95 season and they were talking about using replacement players.
Starting point is 00:44:30 If, so we walked out and strike, the owners locked us out of spring training. Um, and they were going to talk about moving forward with replacement players. And that was when the issue of, uh, our owners said, wait a minute, um, I'm not going to participate in that because if there's replacement players that will technically be a game and Cal streak will be over and that's not, that's not fair. So, um, Mr.
Starting point is 00:44:50 Angelo's and the Angelo's family really stood up for me, but the issue was pretty simple. If that was going to happen and it was supposed to happen, it's meant to be, and I wasn't playing for the sake of the record anyway. So I said, I'm not crossing over and even the players association voted to allow me to cross over if I wanted to. And I always thought it was a little bit, um, comical that, uh, you know, you're a big league player.
Starting point is 00:45:12 This is the circumstances you're playing in. This is the way it is. And this is the way it is. And that's the way it was meant to be. So it never really bothered me that much, but I really did appreciate the Angelo's family and the players association thinking that much of me to do that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:25 Was there a part of you during that, um, when, you know, some of the fans would pin most of the blame on the players. Were you like, Hey, these are billionaires. We're mill, like you, and it's not like the contracts are what they are now. Were you like, why are you still pretty good? Yeah, they're still okay for the time, but was there a party that was like, why are you taking this out on us? Well, I mean, um, I always thought the fans were the victims.
Starting point is 00:45:46 And so, I mean, you have a, thank you. I like that. Yeah. I agree. Pay your salary. Thank you. But you had an issue back and forth. The fans had nothing to do with it.
Starting point is 00:45:54 And there's an issue between how, how are you going to go along? How are you going to play the game? And in the beginning, um, uh, there were rights that the, uh, that the players didn't have, whether it was conditions of play or whether it was, uh, whether any freedom of movement, um, you know, all those things. So there were things that needed to be, um, negotiated, but then after a while, it just seemed like, um, you know, two rich groups, um, arguing with each other and, uh, one trying to break the other.
Starting point is 00:46:18 And the fans were the ones that were left out. And so I think it's a really smart thing. If you're able to negotiate the business of baseball behind closed doors and get that done and not bring it to the, uh, to, to the public, um, you're preserving your game. And I think for the most part, there hasn't been any labor issues for a long time in baseball, which I think has been good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:38 And I hope it continues. Yeah. Absolutely. So you Hall of Fame career, you played on some very good teams, but I have to ask you a question because I'm always fascinated with this. 1988, 0 and 21 to start the season. That wasn't a memorable season. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:51 What is the mentality of a team that is, oh, and is there like a, was it at the 10th game, you did the raw, raw speech? Let's win one. And then at the 15th game, you're like, let's, let's double down on the raw, raw speech. Like how does that kind of snowball? I'm just fascinated by, you know, streets, streaks of perfection, streaks of imperfection.
Starting point is 00:47:09 So, uh, it is kind of interesting. So I was involved in that negative streak. Now it was negative and personal to me. And I think the set of circumstances might have, um, contributed to the fact that we lost 21 games in a row. So the first six games, my dad's the manager. Also, if you lose 21 games in a row in the middle of August, it's a story, but it's not the same story as starting the season.
Starting point is 00:47:30 When you start the season, um, you know, uh, so anytime somebody starts a season now and any, any sport, and they start to get to a point where it's, uh, it's significant, then our names get brought up all the time. And they get in comparison. And that's our reverse mercury Morris that we don't want to relive. But, uh, but I will tell you, um, going through the first six games were own six. And so my dad was the manager and they fired him.
Starting point is 00:47:52 And I think, and Frank Robinson came down and on the same speech when I'm out there trying to be entertaining, I'll say, uh, you know, so we all got together as a team and decided to lose 15 more just to prove that it wasn't my dad's fault, right? Right, right, right. But, uh, that certainly didn't, didn't happen. But I think that it turned us upside down, you know, and all of a sudden everybody was, I know I was mad because it's my dad and my brother, Billy was
Starting point is 00:48:15 on the team and we were competitive in the first six games. And then all of a sudden things just started to go haywire, whatever bad could happen in the middle happened. And it was, uh, difficult to kind of get that back. And, uh, so we did go through it. Um, and I would look back and say, um, now that I'm thankful that I did because it was, uh, probably the worst experience of your life, uh, felt like the world was against you and you had to figure out how to be better, supportive
Starting point is 00:48:39 of your teammates and get through that. So in any experience you have in life, if you've, if you've proved that you can get through it, then you can apply that to, to any other challenges in life. So I always look back on it as a positive in my life, but it was unfair to my dad, my dad, uh, waited in line, um, wanted, wanted to be the manager was passed over when Earl retired, Earl came back, didn't, you know, didn't have the magic and then all of a sudden they give him the chance when we didn't
Starting point is 00:49:04 have a very good team. Right, right. And there were also some, some points in your career when you get into like a personal slump, you were notorious for, for changing your batting stance. I remember watching you when I was growing up and like, you know, every other game it would seem like sometimes you come up there with the bat, like horizontal, the bat like way over your head. Was that more of a mental thing for you to get out of a slump or was that, you
Starting point is 00:49:23 know, you'd see something on film and you'd say, okay, to make a minor adjustment in my swing, I'm going to have the bat, you know, touching the ground when I start to swing. Um, it was more of a physical thing than a mental thing. Um, but I guess, uh, I would equate this if you were taking a golf lesson. Uh, and they try to show you a video of how you should swing. Some people learn that way visually, you know, and you have to show them. Um, to me, it was more, I had to feel what it felt like inside.
Starting point is 00:49:50 There's a term for that, but I don't really know what it is. Um, so when I was struggling, sometimes you go out in batting practice, when you play every day, it just doesn't happen for you every day and come out in batting practice and all of a sudden you can't hit the batting practice picture. And you're thinking, he's throwing 60 miles an hour. Why can't, why can't I just hit line drives one after another? So something fundamentally is wrong with your swing. So if I was throwing my French shoulder open, if, uh, was, I was opening up too soon,
Starting point is 00:50:14 then in the batting practice, I would try something, you know, I would, I would close it off and then I would close it off more and I'd see how that feels. And all of a sudden somehow your line drives would start happening again. You go, okay, that feels pretty good. Let me take that into the game. So I would try to take, um, a fundamental flaw and then go to the other extreme and then try to work back from that. So, so you either close yourself up so darn much and you look really ridiculous
Starting point is 00:50:36 doing it, but if it worked, then I would stay with it. And the same way with spreading out your stance. I had a stance that, uh, that people laughed at the most was called violin. And, uh, the shake weight, you had a shake weight right there. Exactly. And I was going back and forth because we'll have some funding down there. Yeah. And, uh, okay.
Starting point is 00:50:55 Keep forgetting them on camera right now. Um, but, uh, but, uh, but once you start to click, then you start to ride it out. And I, and I did generally didn't care if I'm teaching a kid, I will say the stance is only your starting position. Now, if you do too many extreme things in your stance, you'd never get to the fundamental when the guy is right here, ready to throw. Yeah. But I think if you looked at, um, split screen or you look at a screen when
Starting point is 00:51:19 the picture was here, you would find that my, my approach was similar. No matter what, how I started. So from the release of the ball, you were essentially doing the same swing was just how you got, how you start to that point. Yeah, exactly right. Is there any stance that you look back on? You're like, that one was actually really funny. My favorite, my favorite, I'll tell you, my favorite was when your
Starting point is 00:51:36 hands were like behind your body and the bat was straight. That was a good one. Well, I mean, Mickey Tettleton sort of adopted that Chuck Noblock at some point adopted that sort of layback, but you know what that's a counter to? If you wrap your bat, so your, your bats at this point. And then when you go to swing, like Gary Sheffield, yeah, how he did that. Yeah. Then he brings about all the way back to an arc to get to this point.
Starting point is 00:51:57 You got to be really strong, really fast. And your timing has to be pretty perfect. And I would get in the habit of wrapping the bat. So sometimes to tell me not to wrap the bat, I would go lay it all the way the other way, lay it back and so I went the opposite direction. Then when you go from here, it comes up to your firing position and then it works. Yeah. And so that was the logic of that.
Starting point is 00:52:16 There was a hitter by the name of a John Walkenfuss that played for Philadelphia. Yeah, we're familiar. And he had his really closed in stance, which I felt the most ridiculous doing, but it was actually working really well. I stood up and I kept turning my leg further and further in and tried to turn as far as I could this way, but still be able to see. And that was really effective. I started to get my power to right center field back.
Starting point is 00:52:40 And the guys that threw extremely, extremely hard for some reason that worked against them. So that was the one I felt the most ridiculous in, but what it worked. If you played in today's era, they would have to do like, you know, weekly updates on MLB, the show, just to update your new batting stance. Yeah, Billy, my brother Billy, an analyst at MLB. You know, when we do clinical work out there, he has a field day with me. He, he talks about the different stance and the different ways about it. And really his, his point is, can you name two hitters in the big leagues
Starting point is 00:53:10 that hit exactly the same? Yeah, true. And you really can't, if you even start to think about it, you might find some similarities, but the point when you're teaching kids or coaches is that you have to embrace what their talent is, put some fundamentals to your talent. I liked that. Yeah. So that's, that's his point.
Starting point is 00:53:25 Yeah. What's your favorite unwritten rule in baseball? Good question. Thanks. What is my favorite unwritten rule? If I have, I don't know if I believe in the unwritten rules. Oh, come on. Give me a, give me an unwritten rule.
Starting point is 00:53:37 Like if you, if your best player gets hit by a pitch, you got to pit, you got to hit them. No bunting on a perfect game or no hitter. Well, I disagree with that. I mean, if guys don't know hitter, you got to try to win the game somehow. And I think that thing is perfectly, you got to defend the button. Yeah. Um, hitting somebody else.
Starting point is 00:53:54 Um, I don't, I dislike that in many ways because I always thought there are times when you need to send a message. If somebody is trying to intimidate and your pitchers, they are, they're pitchers out of control. There are times when you need to retaliate, um, but it's not a pitch for pitch sort of thing. It's not, if somebody accidentally gets hit, then you got to drill your next guy that comes up, or if somebody hits a home run, you
Starting point is 00:54:12 got to drill the next guy comes up. Um, and I think the manager should generally be in control of that, but too many times you get somebody that comes up that doesn't know and he's pitching in the game and then something happens and he takes matters into his own hands and then he starts drilling people. And then that's when normally the fights occur. Yeah. What about a bat flipping?
Starting point is 00:54:30 I don't like that. Okay. So that might be, I don't know if that's an unwritten rule or not, but that's a, that's a, it's a more, here's a thought. When I played, you know, a hundred million years ago, um, there was, you were considered more of a sportsman. Okay. So you were, your entertainment value was in the quality of your sport
Starting point is 00:54:49 and how you competed. Now, um, players would argue that it's a form of entertainment. So they look at themselves as entertainers and that, um, they're providing entertainment and, and to this day and age, uh, a lot of people like that, that plays on sports center all the time. Everybody, um, we'll talk about it and I'll go back and forth. So in some ways it's a form of entertainment, but, uh, I always felt that, uh, um, and maybe it's John Riggins like, if you score a touchdown,
Starting point is 00:55:16 you know, act like you've been there before, you know, so if you get a home run act like that's, that's normal. That's not abnormal, but don't you think it's good for baseball? I mean, baseball's not struggling, but it's clearly, you know, there's, it's a very regional sport. You root for your team, your team's not in it. There's, you know, the ratings have not been all the way up there. Don't you think that kind of flair adds to it?
Starting point is 00:55:36 I mean, Manny Machado, for a perfect example, he hotdog, oh, that was a nice eye roll because I agree with you. He hotdogs some plays in the world series, blown a bubble, uh, you know, running down first baseline, stepping on people. Now some of it's bush league stuff, but it also is conversation makes people want to watch. Well, does that make it more entertaining to you? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:55 I mean, you'd rather see, you'd rather see that stuff. No, I'd rather see good, I want to see good baseball. Number one, but the extra stuff where you get the storylines and fans booing him and all this stuff, it's fun. It, it adds entertainment. Yeah. It seems like that's the kind of stuff that's focused on outside of the actual game.
Starting point is 00:56:14 So I guess that's where I have a little problem. Okay. You know, if you hit a ball off the left field wall and you're still standing at home plate and you got a single, that's a problem. That's funny though. But that's a problem for your team. But we're talking about it right now. You should be on second base.
Starting point is 00:56:26 Um, that's embarrassing. And so I assume you're happy that Manny is no longer in Oriole. No, I'm not happy. No, I, uh, I happen to like Manny. Yeah. I had a chance to get the gnome. We drafted him. Number one, he came to our minor league team, the Aberdeen iron birds at the time.
Starting point is 00:56:41 Uh, I got a chance to watch and you could clearly see that he was too good for that league immediately. He moved through the system really quickly and appreciating his talent. Um, I always have, and I always wanted to watch how he could take his cannon arm and put it at shortstop. So I got a chance to see that. Um, so I am a Manny fan, but I would not agree, you know, with standing at home plate and watching a ball, or, or if you did that intentionally, which I'm not
Starting point is 00:57:06 a hundred percent sure that he acts, he hit him intentionally. I think the second time, when it happens twice in one, so that's the problem with Manny is that when you collect all the things that have happened, then you can start to say, okay, um, you know, that's not, it's more than a pattern. That must be by intent. It's got a wide left foot. That's the problem. So anyway, it's hard for me to think that, uh, somebody would kick somebody
Starting point is 00:57:26 going down the first place. I can't condone that. Oh yeah. Counter argument. You pimped your streak though. When you broke the record, you took a little lap around the ball, a long lap. That was a long lap. I did a little bit, but begrudgedly, um, it was, there was three attempts by them
Starting point is 00:57:40 to push me out there to go. Uh, Bobby Bonilla and Rafael Palmero both said, you got to take a lap around. I said, I'm not taking a lap around here. We've got to get the game started again. Now you got to take a lap around here. Finally, they pushed me down the line and it felt like I had no choice. Once you high five, like six people, you got to do the whole ballpark. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:56 Well, like conic moment, not only from that, but, uh, our producer, Liam, right here, he was actually born on that day. Oh, cool. September 6th, 1995. Yep. Yeah. Well done. Pretty big, pretty big deal.
Starting point is 00:58:06 So what was more important that day? You breaking the streak or Liam being born? Probably Liam being born. Yeah, good call. Good answer. That was bullshit. You know, I say it was interesting to be in that position. I was embarrassed at first to run down there.
Starting point is 00:58:21 And then when you started shaking hands, you started looking at people and that celebration that was 50,000 strong became personal. Yeah. And then you started to know people that had been at the ballpark for all these years. I mean, God was there 15, 16 years by then, but it's also one of those moments that if you're a sports fan and you watch all the sports, like, you know, I was, uh, 10 years old at the time, but I can close my eyes and I can see it.
Starting point is 00:58:43 You know what I mean? There's mo, there's certain moments that you, as a sports fan, you can close your eyes and you can remember. Do you remember Chris Berman being the announcer for that game? I, I mean, I don't remember that, but I'm sure he did a great job. They said, they said one of the greater values of that time running around there was that he didn't say a word for 21 minutes or 22 minutes. You shut Boomer up.
Starting point is 00:59:04 That's actually the most important. Boomer decided to let it happen. Yes. And sometimes, sometimes less words, yes, sometimes lets it happen. So that would have been great though to hear him come up with like nicknames for you, Ripken Van Winkle. Yeah, just keep going and stuff like that. I like that.
Starting point is 00:59:20 Um, did you think that the Billy Ripken fuckface card was funny? Cause I think it's really funny. Very funny. So we're not filtered on this show. No, shit, shit, yeah. It's parked. So it's funny is that, uh, many people made up stories that, uh, he was, uh, it was a practical joke and then they got him pretty good.
Starting point is 00:59:40 But the fact of the matter is he wrote it. I mean, he used to write things on the bottom of his knob of his bat. So we could find the bat. Right. And so it, cause baths sit in a big barrel sometimes and you have numbers that all look the same. He would write expressions on it and the expressions were innocent in the beginning and then they started to get a little bit less innocent.
Starting point is 00:59:57 And when he grabbed his bat and, uh, one of the card companies asked, Hey, Billy, can I, how about a car, how about a shot for Fleer or Don Ross or tops? He put his bat on his shoulder and they took a picture and it just so happened that the, uh, what he wrote became visible to the card. So, uh, I guess we'll dispel any of these, uh, rumors. He wrote it. Yeah. Um, I will say though, um, he used to write in this thin, sharpie, not a thick
Starting point is 01:00:23 sharpie, but when it was on the card, it seemed like it was thick. So I'm wondering if it was, if it was, uh, it might've been enhanced for the collectible. Interesting. Oh, so you might want to research that. You think the card company made it more visible so that they could retract the card and it would be, I don't know, but it might be worth looking into, yeah, you're very woke.
Starting point is 01:00:41 I like that. I like that, Cal. Um, all right. I got a couple of last questions. Uh, you've written 30 books. Uh, we, we had a number of kids books and I don't know if 30 is the right number, but quite a few. So you think you're better than us?
Starting point is 01:00:54 Um, no, I just, I can't figure out, I can't figure out. That's a lot of books. How many books have you written? Zero. Yeah. Well, then you should get, get moving. I haven't read 30 books. You should get moved.
Starting point is 01:01:03 Sound like my brother Billy. Yeah. I mean, that's the, you're, you're trying to flex on us. So we wrote, uh, the kids books are fun. Um, uh, always to write, uh, we did a couple of instructional books. Um, they've been, uh, the funniest one, funniest books, types to me is, you know, we've had some success in business after, uh, um, uh, baseball. And so then all of a sudden they think you're an expert in business.
Starting point is 01:01:25 So you're writing books. Um, that makes an analogy of baseball and how you apply it to business. Yeah. And so a lot of times people communicate in that fashion. And so I only talk baseball. So we, uh, we've, we've written a book and now we have a second one that we're being asked to do, um, that really is principles of sport and how they apply to business.
Starting point is 01:01:44 Okay. You should actually just become the most, like the most prolific author of all time, just do it, just break that record 10. I would like to, to be a John Grisham of sorts. Yeah. Um, I'm sure that he makes a whole lot more money from his books than I make from mine. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:58 Well, right. A bunch of books about lawyers and people just read them and assume everything's true, turn them into movies. Yeah. So yeah, option a couple. Um, I don't know if you were going to do any of the people. Also, I do, I was, oh, you were. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:10 I'll let you get to that. Cause I just, I just happened to see one when I was, uh, yeah. So the way that we prep for this interview is we would look at your Wikipedia. Yeah. And so then we ask questions based off, but you have a very weird people. Also, so on Google, you go, you look and it says people also ask. So it's not us asking. It's other people asking.
Starting point is 01:02:26 You have a very weird one. I'll ask you three of them, a couple of them are normal. Like the first one is, uh, how old is Cal Ripken today? People are asking that. Really 58, 58. Okay. And then, uh, some people are asking how much is Cal Ripken's rookie card worth? You know, I don't know, but, uh, recently I was at a, uh, one of these memorabilia
Starting point is 01:02:45 shows, uh, that you show up and my double a card, which, uh, was a very rare card cause it was the first one ever made. Um, it sold for like 50 grand at a, uh, at that show. I'm just thinking, man, I might have 10 or 12 of those. Yeah. There you go. Hell yeah. All right.
Starting point is 01:03:00 And then this is the weird one. I don't, this is, people are asking this. When did Cal Ripken, Jr. die? Oh yeah. So was there another cow? Are you dead? Was there a ghost?
Starting point is 01:03:12 Was there a second cow that took over? The Google search. It's like a movie. Fourth question is when did Cal Ripken, Jr. die? You see that movie Dave, where I had a second president that took over. Did you have some guy that looked like you that took over like halfway through the street?
Starting point is 01:03:23 Either way, we did a commercial like that at one point. I can't remember who it was for that. So you're alive. I had an evil twin. Tell me something that only the real Cal Ripken would know. You made me laugh a little bit on that question. Obviously he's not, he can't answer that question, but Jose Mesa. I could answer.
Starting point is 01:03:41 The dead question? Yeah, I'm alive. Okay. I'm alive. But, but, I don't know about that, but I mean, but Jose Mesa was a teammate of mine and he used to always call me Cal Ripken, Sr. Oh, you know, because, because I'd always ask him, I said, you know, there's no way that you're 26 or 25.
Starting point is 01:04:01 I mean, you're, you lied on your birth certificate. We'd go back and forth and he would always counter with calling me Cal Ripken, Sr. Got it. And so, you know, since I lost my dad about 19, 19 years ago, um, uh, it would be interesting how, how Mesa would look at that now. Okay. So we'll have to talk to Jose Mesa. We'll confirm that story and then we will confirm that you are in fact alive.
Starting point is 01:04:20 Okay. Cool. Done. Okay. You brought up John Riggins a second ago and he was like, he was a legend at the time, you know, when you were playing, uh, you ever like go out party with him? You know, I have a couple of beverages. Well, I'm sure I drank a couple beers with him, but I, um, that's just that you're,
Starting point is 01:04:37 when you're at a normal event, I know the, there were no normal, when we won the world series, we won the world series 83. I think the Redskins won the Super Bowl in 83. And so they had a couple of years in a row. I remember sitting in between Dave Butts and, uh, Joe Jacoby, Joe Jacoby, too big, too big guys, 320 pound guys. Um, and Riggins was there as well. So they were celebrating, uh, you know, their world series championship in the
Starting point is 01:05:00 off season and when we, when we were celebrating ours. So I put us in, uh, the same and in the same place many times. So, uh, you know, to me, John is real, you know, he's, uh, he's a real football player, um, uh, matter of fact, um, and kind of blunt and honest at the same time. So I always enjoyed being around him and talking to him. Would he remember hanging out with you during that off season? If I were to say, Hey, John, you remember hanging out with Cal Riggins or is that just like a big blur for him?
Starting point is 01:05:26 Well, I think we'd have to define what hanging out is. You know, have I had conversations with him or do we actually go out? Would you say we're hanging out right now? Um, I think the length of this interview is that yes. Yeah. Okay. We're hanging out. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:38 So we're like, I'm hanging out with Cal Riggins. So my last question, Seeky question put in promo code take, you get $10 off for Seeky purchase. You want to go to a baseball game next year, promo code take, uh, this question's actually not a question. It just, it just called, wow, that was a hell of a year. Uh, so Brady Anderson, 1996 hit 50 home runs. Wow.
Starting point is 01:05:59 That was a hell of a year. Wouldn't you say, Cal? Wow. That was a hell of a year. That was a hell of a year. Hell of a year. That was a hell of a year. Best shape of his life.
Starting point is 01:06:05 That was a hell of a year. There's nothing more you could say than that was a hell of a year. It's a great year. It was a great year. All right, Cal, uh, thank you so much. How can people get involved with Cal Ripken senior foundation? Um, I mean, the easiest thing is just to Google Cal Ripken senior foundation, but the, uh, the address is, uh, Cal Ripken, uh, foundation.org.
Starting point is 01:06:26 Okay. Great. Let's build some skills. I mean, it's awesome. I mean, I, you know, baseball fields, kids play baseball. There's nothing more American than that. It is. It is interesting is our foundation, which, um, um, if, if we, um, if I can say for a
Starting point is 01:06:38 minute, we're not somebody that, um, that, uh, feels like we have to get all the credit for doing it. Um, we care about kids. We try to use our position, um, to, to benefit kids and we're, we partner with anybody that cares the same. And, uh, we've done many fields across. We don't have to put our name on the field. If you want to build a field, um, we'll put your name on the field.
Starting point is 01:06:58 Okay. Um, but in the end it's all about how many kids can we help. That's great. That's fantastic. And you're investing in the future of the game because you're making kids better at sports. Yeah. You should actually eat a little tip for your 81 fields now, 81.
Starting point is 01:07:10 All right. We need to get a sign in front of every field. No bat flipping. Start them young. Well done. Yeah. No bat. They used to say, I wish I'd have thought about that in field number one.
Starting point is 01:07:18 It's a big, no pepper, no, no bat flipping. Do you guys even know what pepper is? I only know, well, I know the game, but I've always wondered why did it say no pepper on all these, all these walls? Like why couldn't you play pepper? I mean, that would be a question like for Babe Ruth or Lou Gehrig, but I think I can answer that question. Okay.
Starting point is 01:07:33 Um, many times, uh, you know, when you came, they didn't have the normal batting practices that we have now. I mean, you come to the ballpark, they didn't have batting cages and all that. So they had to get loose for the game in some way. Pepper was a controlled way to swing and hit the, uh, uh, to use the bat, just to knock it back and forth. But when you played it in the same spot all the time, you would wear the grass out.
Starting point is 01:07:52 Yeah. And so they would say no pepper, you know, around the area from home plate, but you'd have to play pepper out in the outfield or on the, on the thing. So pepper was, uh, was a little game, but most kids don't understand what pepper is. Yeah. I've always wanted to, and it takes a little back control, which it seems like there's not any back control in the big leagues right now.
Starting point is 01:08:10 Right. Okay. It's bring back pepper. As hard as you can. Bring back pepper. Play as much pepper as you want on the color of the senior foundation fields. All right, Cal. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 01:08:17 Really appreciate it. You're quite welcome. Thank you. Enjoyed it. Good to meet you, man. That interview with our friend, Cal Rookin was brought to you by blue apron. Junior, thank you, Hank. Anything else you'd like to add before this ad?
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Starting point is 01:12:40 The game is respect the game. All right. We say respect the game and respect basketball. Gods are frowning on Jamal Murray. Yes. So respect the game. Jamal Murray against the Celtics on Monday night. He tried to hit 50 points when they were up by like 10 at the end of the game
Starting point is 01:12:57 by shooting a three and everyone was mad. Huh? Well, by everyone, you mean Kyrie Irving. Yeah, he was the only one. Well, I'm sure in the basketball gods. And now the basketball gods are thundering down upon Jamal Murray. And he's not going to score 50 points ever this year. Okay.
Starting point is 01:13:11 Because he tried that Mickey Mouse stunt. It's like Ricky Davis. We never heard from Ricky Davis again after he tried to get a triple double off of his own rebound off of his own rim. But that was pretty cool. That was pretty cool. For anyone who doesn't know, the fact that Ricky Davis was a rebound away from a triple double ran towards his own basket, threw it off and tried to count
Starting point is 01:13:30 that as a rebound is still one of the sneaky hilarious things that's great. When I first started becoming Celtics fan, Ricky Davis was like the guy. Yeah, people forgot that he was like actually as a premier player. Well, I wouldn't say he was ever like premier for my youth. It was like 20. Ricky Davis and Paul. You're top 20. Yeah, big deal.
Starting point is 01:13:47 He was like the Jimmy Butler of the year 2005. Yeah, OK, so the thing is, what's going to happen? You know that that's kind of true. No, it's definitely not true. OK, it's not even close to true to Jamal Murray. Do you someone like what do you do throw inside on him? I know it's a it's a different conference. I don't even know if they play again this year.
Starting point is 01:14:04 So they might not be any retaliation. Here's the deal. He's in Denver, right? I also who among us went to the same. Oh, in a second. Yes. I'd be chucking. The Warriors did that when they were trying to get clay, the three point record against the Bulls last week. They basically were just passing it to him and letting him shoot nonstop.
Starting point is 01:14:22 I actually blame Brad Stevens because letting somebody put a 50 burger on you is a bad look. So what Brad should have done if he was thinking was try to foul him and make sure that he only got like, you know, he wasn't able to attempt a shot or at least fell him in the one in one situation and just let him get to 49. Yeah, that was it. It does look bad if somebody's putting up 50 on you. Oh, 50 burgers always bad.
Starting point is 01:14:43 No, not a great sign for the Celtics this year. Like it does say something about team defense. If one guy is able to do that against like five, they switched up guys guarding last night, too. It wasn't just it wasn't just Kyrie. It was like Al Horford was on him for a while. This is bad. Did a good night.
Starting point is 01:15:00 This is a bad sign. Like, I don't know, Hank, ball side defense makes us tough. Help side defense makes us a team floor. Slop the floor is due to your come on, Hank. Brad Stevens figured out we have a harder injured triple H. So triple H has a very bad injury to his breast. It is I just got a text. Hey, Leonard, it's vote.
Starting point is 01:15:24 It's voting day election day. Make sure your voice matters. OK, so I whatever Leonard has been in trouble a lot recently. I've been getting call like his overtime. I'm getting texts about his overtime. Leonard's got to be careful. So triple H has the darkest nipples besides me out there. He tore his bicep slash chest muscle.
Starting point is 01:15:48 I don't even know. And I really sucks because those are the two muscles that like a guy can fake to look strong. Yeah, there's like bench press and arm curls. Right. So he's now he's now on the mend surgery. He said surgery in the AM makes you stronger and we got to ask her. Her deranged or Ken wrestlers get hurt or they always just injured.
Starting point is 01:16:07 So this is telling me that he's not doing enough steroids. Maybe he's off the juice or maybe the steroids are starting to fail. Or maybe he did too many steroids and his his muscles got too strong for his bones and tore like no more Garcia para. He was just in Saudi Arabia. Maybe he was some, you know, different steroids. Maybe he touched the orb. Yeah, that's what happened.
Starting point is 01:16:25 It's like if you see a guy get radiation poisoning from like, you know, I've seen in movies at least like a spy because they were carrying around a briefcase with like a uranium core in it. Their arms such a relatable. Yeah, their arms starts to get scaly. I think maybe he was carrying the orb around in his armpit. The does look like a die pack from a bank robbery just finished all over his chest. Yeah, it's weird to see.
Starting point is 01:16:46 I love when guys tweet out pictures of these type of gruesome gruesome injuries because I just hope I never get to a point where I do enough athletic things to have an injury like that. It's like it just further, you know, proves that doing stuff is overrated and just kind of chill out all the time. And you'll never have a blue and purple chest because you tore your pec muscle. That's true. But you do have an injured back, but that you can't even get any content out of that.
Starting point is 01:17:11 Well, which is tough. Yeah. I mean, I'm just injured. Yeah, you can't even take a picture of that, though. You should get an MRI and people are taking pictures of me laying down. Yeah, that's true. Or maybe I should get. You know what I'll do is I'll get surgery that I don't even need. And then complain about it for two years. Yeah, we have last up what it was. Oh, just stop talking.
Starting point is 01:17:30 Mike Tomlin. Yes. So what am I talking? Well, no, this is just stop talking. John Gruden, the Mike Tomlin edition. Yes. So we've never been more right than we were with our Mike Tomlin take on Monday, basically saying every quote from him is just makes no sense. But it makes enough sense that you walk away being like, oh, that was smart until I like that guy. Yeah, it's like getting the five. What's the five point thing that stops your heart?
Starting point is 01:17:51 The five finger finger death thing. Yeah, Mike Tomlin does that to you and you walk away. You're like, I'm fine. And then you take three steps and you start writing it up. And then you're like, wait a second. These words have never been put together. Never. So he said he was asked about the Carolina Panthers, who they're playing on Thursday Night Football Color Rush Edition in Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 01:18:10 He said they're a fundamentalist group. So, yeah, I agreed. I mean, sure. They're well, they're they're good. Yeah, so they're not Shiite. Yeah. And they. Yeah, I don't I don't really know this sounds OK. Fundamentalist. The fundamentals.
Starting point is 01:18:28 You could say that Duke basketball is a Zionist group. Yeah, they take it down to the fundamentals. Yes, that's just all they do. Yeah. Mike Tomlin. It does sound good, though. It sounds great. It sounds great. I think one time he was talking about Levy on Bell and he's like, Levy on wasn't on his details today. And I was like, Levy on Bell sucked today.
Starting point is 01:18:44 And I thought about it. I was like, wait a second. What is what is on on your details? I mean, we're going to get a lot of Mike Tomlin quotes coming up. We're going on coming back. Yeah. What is the latest Levy on? He left Miami. He left Miami. Yeah. And but is he driving to Pittsburgh? Like, I feel like he tweeted, I left Miami.
Starting point is 01:18:59 And then we haven't heard anything about him getting to Pittsburgh. He was assumed he was going to Pittsburgh. He's just leaving Miami. He said farewell to Miami. Interesting. So that doesn't even mean that he's leaving. That's what I'm saying. He could just be like, Miami, you keep doing you. He's going. He's actually just going to Fort Lauderdale.
Starting point is 01:19:14 Yeah, this wasn't that big of a deal. Yeah. So who knows? He might be back. He's giving up like $7 million a week. Or I don't know what it is, not a week. It's it's like a million a week. But he's screwed himself over because he can now get French or a transition tagged by the Steelers,
Starting point is 01:19:29 which means that they can just keep him around for another year. Free agencies and spectrum and pay him less. Yeah. Yeah. OK. I this is the Levy on Bell thing. I feel like someone just needs to remind us every now and then, like, hey, Levy on Bell still hasn't signed. He's approaching the line of scrimmage very patiently. Yeah, it's it's he's waiting back there.
Starting point is 01:19:47 Just wait to see everything when you see that hole open up. Hank, let's do it. Speaking of holes. Cast on chicks. Hey, boys, especially thick as fuck cat. Oh, that's one word. I we have been eating a lot of Taco Bell. It's like a lot. It's worth it.
Starting point is 01:20:02 Oh, it's very delicious. But when we're on the road, it's a bad scene. My boyfriend is doing no, not November props to him. Does this mean I should do dickless December? That's good. That's like to spin it on. It's like the plot of the movie. Shira, yeah, spin it on him. Be like, oh, well, guess what?
Starting point is 01:20:18 Now you don't get any in December. I like that. Yeah. That's it. If I were to pick a month that I wouldn't have sex in, it would probably be December anyways. Yeah. Really fat after Thanksgiving. Just lethargic eating a lot sports on all the time, like all the like shitty bowl games that I need to watch.
Starting point is 01:20:33 So, yeah, I dare I dare you to do no dick December on me. Dickless December, dickless December. I'll straight up chew that. If you don't do dickless December and you guys and your boyfriend starts having sex with you again, you make sure he disposes before November ends in December. You know what I mean? Yeah. You know, things could get messy.
Starting point is 01:20:55 Yeah, you know what I mean? Who the fuck? This is not a real thing. The dumbest thing ever. Yeah, it is the dumbest thing. Well, your tongue. Tell that to the ancient Greeks, big cat who invented this and all their wisdom. He also invented logic for the record.
Starting point is 01:21:07 When we asked people to tweet us, like, is anyone participating? I had one person say that another person was. So not one person came forward and said, yeah, I'm doing no. Not my time. So flooded. That's why I believe it is just existing in a Reddit thread somewhere where a bunch of dudes are like, guess what?
Starting point is 01:21:22 We could have sex, but we're not in November. Sorry, your week. Hank's timeline is like you said, a bunch of incels. So everybody that you follow, everyone in my timeline is getting laid right now. You guys are weak. It's cool. It's just a big giant orgy on the TL. Hey, PMT, especially death.
Starting point is 01:21:35 My husband doesn't want to cut the umbilical cord of our first baby. What's the best way to convince him that this is a standard procedure? Like he just wants the baby to be attached to her. Tell him, tell him it's good luck for all the sports teams. I'll do if you and, you know, do the, you know, when, when someone retweets something in your timelines, like if you don't retweet this in 10 seconds, you'll have bad luck for the next seven years. And you always have to retweet it.
Starting point is 01:22:03 Say that if you don't cut the umbilical cord, you'll have your teams will have bad luck for the next seven years. Or just tell him that if the longer the umbilical cord is attached after the baby is out of the womb, the more that baby is going to imprint itself on the mom. And so then it becomes a contest. Like the baby's going to love the mom more. Yes, the longer it stays.
Starting point is 01:22:22 Yes. Hey, guys, tell him it's high in protein. And so then he'll be like, OK, I can eat that like with the placenta. Yeah. Or be like, Hey, are you Carson Wentz? Have you ever have your dreamed about cutting your own dick? Well, this is as close as you'll get. Oh, actually, here's here's what you forget. Carson Wentz said he wanted to cut his own penis. Yeah, that might that one might have been confusing
Starting point is 01:22:41 if you didn't remember that tweet. But that was like draft night. He had that and also killed a lot of ducks killed a shitload of ducks. So many so many ducks were killed by Carson. He'll kill your ducks. At what point were they like, this is too many ducks? I think after like a couple dozen after 24, you're like, OK, this is this is a lot. I got all my ducks. Yeah, like I'm a duck. Can you eat?
Starting point is 01:23:00 Yeah, a lot. That's actually my favorite. Yeah, it's good. That example. But it also is like it's a treat, so you don't want to eat too much. But back to the umbilical cord thing. Just tell the husband that it's going to be an Audi the longer you wait to cut it. And then he doesn't want to do that to his baby. Yeah, I don't know if that's true or not, but just lie to him. Yeah, like you do about everything else, probably because the guys are dumb.
Starting point is 01:23:20 Whoa, sup. Long time fan here with a boyfriend that will only have sex with the lights off. Does this say more about me or him? No, he's fat. Also, go green. Yeah, he's fat. What is go green as in like Michigan State? Oh, what it is he's saving he's saving the environment. I think it's Michigan Green Party. No, he's saving the environment by not wasting electricity.
Starting point is 01:23:39 And he's so you want to to him the sexiest thing of all is a world that's going to exist in 100 years because he turned off the lights when he had sex. Yeah, his the sexiest. The thing that really turns him on is enough drinking water for the earth's population. Mm hmm. So I guess he's just a little bit more evolved than you are. Mm hmm. And he's fat. Yeah, like he's shirt onto.
Starting point is 01:24:00 All right, we're going to end with a whoa. He goes through the pajama hole. Yeah, the fly of the box. Exactly, exactly. So do you think anybody's ever had sex in the last like 10 years through whitey tidies that like little maze that you have to get through? Mm hmm. Jerry Jones. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:13 Jerry Jones, definitely. Good boy, Hank. Great point. Yeah. Sup, handsome, Hank. Here's a big time. Whoa, you don't really wash your hands. They actually wash each other while you just watch. That's good.
Starting point is 01:24:27 That's good. Your hands are just washing each other. Yeah, I'm trying to. But you're telling them to are you wash each other? Are they telling me? Yeah, I don't know. One hand doesn't know what the other hand is doing. One dog's looking this way.
Starting point is 01:24:41 The other dog's looking that way. And this guy's like, what do you want from me? What's going on? Yeah. You know what that is saying? No, that's good. You've never seen Goodfellas? That's after they stab a guy in half a second. Wash their hands.
Starting point is 01:24:50 Don't make us ruin Goodfellas for you, too. OK, that's our show. We'll see everyone Friday. Huge Thursday night football game. NFL picks. And yeah, that's it. No, we have a couple. We actually have a really good interview coming Friday.
Starting point is 01:25:04 Yes. Hall of Famer with a friend. Not a Hall of Famer. But that's what you said last time. Yeah, not a Hall of Famer, but a very interesting interview. Could be. Could be a Hall of Famer. I think and I think this guy liked us, too.
Starting point is 01:25:14 Yeah, exactly. So you're going to want to listen to that. Actually, he probably isn't a Hall of Fame. When did we start using the term Hall of Fame? Because it seems like that's just like I would rather have a room. Like a hall is kind of like chicken shit. Like you walk through a hall where you're in your house. Yeah, I'd rather.
Starting point is 01:25:29 You're rich. You got a hall. You've got a big ass. No, I know that. But like I'd rather like the richest thing you can add. I'd rather be honored with a room than with a hall. No, but anyone can have a room. Hank's right.
Starting point is 01:25:38 Like if you get an apartment, you probably don't have any halls. You just have like a couple rooms. Yeah, but once you get a house, now you have halls. If it's a hall, you have to like there are two holes. You have to go in. You have to go out. Yeah, I know how. I know.
Starting point is 01:25:51 Do you? Yeah, because it doesn't sound like if you have a room, you go in. You visit for a while in the room. Yeah, but I'd like to go in and you can get locked in a room of fame. I'd like to go in, then go out, then go in again. Can't get locked in a hall. OK. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:26:04 Halls are rooms. Halls are rooms. Love you guys. I don't know what I'm to say I'll say it today. Today's another day to find you. Flying away. I'll be coming for you no more. Take me home.
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