Pardon My Take - Carlos Boozer + We Created MJvsLebron.Net
Episode Date: May 11, 2018Blake Bortles is a hero and also leaves his car unlocked with the keys and his wallet inside, but he's a hero (2:57 - 6:33). The Conference Final matchups are set in Hockey and Basketball and we previ...ew both plus PFT gives his final update on the thing he needs to do but won't do (6:33 - 16:11). We've created our next huge moneymaker, MJvsLebron.net, the one stop shop for all MJ vs Lebron debates where you can run our high tech algorithm to find out who is the GOAT once and for all (16:11 - 24:32). Former NBA Player and National Champion Carlos Boozer joins the show to talk about his career in Basketball and playing in this year's Big 3, the time he spray painted his head, the time he punched a ref in the balls, and the time Prince rented his LA mansion and changed everything inside (24:32 - 56:51). Stay Woke is Marlins Man about to become President Trump's lawyer. Well Actually for Darren Rovell. Take Quake, Steve Rosenbloom thinks Roquan Smith should be blamed for getting his car broken into, and listener FAQ's You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake
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He tells us some funny stories about the time he spray painted his hair and got roasted
by the KG Celtics.
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Welcome to part of my take presented by SeekGeek.
Today is Friday, May 11th, and guess what?
The leader of our Wikipedia Club is also now a hero.
Capital H hero.
Yeah.
So here's the story.
Blake Bortles was with a friend at a friend's house, a teammate's house on Wednesday night,
a little party, a little shindig, maybe a little barbecue, maybe a couple of Bud Light Lime
and Oranges.
I don't know.
You know, getting weird with it.
No, but Bush.
Yeah, but Bud Light Lime and Oranges.
Yeah, but also, yes.
Wink, wink.
Okay.
So he noticed an 18-year-old who probably had a Bush can in his pocket, rummaging around
some of the trucks in the driveway.
Blake's truck was blocked in, but he had left the keys in the truck and his wallet in the
truck.
That's just the kind of guy Blake is.
He's trusting almost to a fault.
No surprise there.
And the kid lost, he stole Blake's wallet, dropped it, and then they saw him and Blake
made a citizen's arrest.
He went back into the house the kid did.
Yeah, the kid scrambled.
You know what?
I think that might be partially our fault.
We've made Blake Bortles so likable that people are like, we can just steal his truck.
Because I kind of feel like you can.
I think that if you just got into Blake's truck and started honking the horn at him
on the outside, he'd probably just pump his fist at you and be like, hey, but yeah.
That's my truck.
Sweet truck, right?
Yeah, right.
Awesome truck.
So he's a hero.
He apprehended the youth, actually not a youth 18.
An adult.
Tried as an adult.
Yup.
And Bortles tells me that's an adult.
Yeah, so Blake, I'm going to, a lot of people on the internet are saying, why would you
leave your car keys and your wallet in the truck?
You know what?
That's victim blaming.
It is victim blaming.
It's like saying, oh, he's asking for it, or he deserved it, or did you see what he
was wearing?
Not his wallet and his keys.
Yeah, you see what Blake's truck was provocative.
So all of a sudden, Blake Bortles, he matures, he grows up and he stops wearing cargo shorts
so he doesn't have anywhere to put his wallet and his keys, so he leaves it in the truck.
So you can't have it both ways here.
I'm firmly on team Blake in this.
I also kind of feel good for the kid.
Yeah.
One, he's learning a lesson, but two, being kidnapped by Blake Bortles inside of a house
must be awesome.
Yes.
Just hanging out with him for a while.
Yeah, just chilling.
I know I made an alpha dog reference with our last Blake interview, but it would be like
alpha dog.
Yeah.
You just hang out, you play Madden.
He's like, hey man.
Did you watch alpha dog last weekend?
No, it just fits too perfectly for this situation.
So that's the start of your Friday.
A great story to get us going on a Friday.
Wonderful story.
They should give Blake Bortles the key to Jacksonville.
Mm-hmm.
What do you think the key to Jacksonville would be?
It's just a big, huge thing of computer dust off, whatever, you know, where you can just
huff it all.
I was going to say it's probably just a key, just a kilo.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Or just a key for a key bump.
Don't snort it all in one place.
Yeah, exactly.
It's a key that's got a little hollowed out, a little white powder in there.
Here you go.
Yeah.
Blake was probably, he was probably so chill to the kid, he was like, hey man, I'm really
sorry to do this.
Yes.
You want a pizza or something?
Yeah.
I don't want to be hungry.
I'm not going to press charges.
I'm not going to press charges.
Sorry.
We're out of, we're out of Bud Light.
Is Bush okay?
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
So that's a great story to start.
One of our own, being a hero of Jacksonville, the hero Jacksonville deserves, let's move
on to some NBA playoffs.
So the process is dead.
The Celtics have eliminated the Sixers.
Shout out to JetBlue for having us not have TNT for our entire flight.
Not a complaint.
No.
So the guys of that, of that game, we watched the most important part of the game.
Well, we watched the Sixers win three to one and Marcus Smart traveled.
Travel.
He took four steps.
Yeah.
God, I wish they called that.
Holy shit.
Do you imagine?
Because he, he did catch the pass and then he did travel.
It'd be the ballsyest call of all time.
Is that any wrap?
Yeah.
Is that, is that game played under protest?
Oh man.
Uh, so we got, so Hank, how are you feeling?
Now it's LeBron.
I feel very excited.
Now it's LeBron.
I said it when the Celtics signed Kyrie that if the, that they can run LeBron out of Cleveland
in the beginning of his career.
You did.
If they could run it out at the end, it would be the sweetest thing in the world.
And they don't have Kyrie or Gordon Hayward, but they still have the chance.
Yeah.
What would you put the percentage at right now?
60%.
Or the Celtics.
Of the Celtics winning?
Yes.
Oh my God.
That's insane.
That's insane.
I would say the Celtics are more in don't look now mode.
Like they've made some noise.
Yeah.
They're noise making.
They are team of destiny, but LeBron James is more team of destiny.
I'm going to give you.
No.
LeBron James is a player of destiny.
It's a team game.
Brad Stevens has proven that by being the better coach of the team and the Celtics have
the better team and they're going to win the series.
It's going to be so funny to watch people be like, well, how is Brad Stevens going to
shut LeBron James down?
And you're just not going to be able to stop him in transition.
He's going to get his score 42.
Oh yeah.
They can shoot.
Yeah.
Although that doesn't really work.
That doesn't work anymore.
Yep.
The storyline I'm most interested in is Tyron Liu is cousins with Jason Tatum.
Did you know that?
No, I didn't know that.
Yeah.
So that is going to be great because Tyron Liu is going to be like, Hey, this is my
cousin.
I've known him since a little, he's been a little kid.
I got him scouted perfectly in LeBron's like, I don't, I still don't give a fuck.
I'm still going to do whatever I want.
I'm a little concerned for all the assistants on the Cavaliers because if we're going to
be throwing soup in Boston, Chowder is a soup that'll, that'll stay with you.
That'll like hang off.
Oh, it's heavy.
It's heavy.
Yeah.
It is a heavy soup.
Also just, I mean, the Brad Stevens, Tyron Liu matchup is going to be phenomenal to watch
to say the least.
Yes.
Absolutely.
So what do you think the series is going to be?
I think it's going to be 4-1.
Cavs and 6.
Gentlemen sweep and 6.
I think the, I think the Celtics will win one of the first two.
I think they'll win game five.
What if they won the first two?
I do not think they'll win the first two.
I think they'll win game five and then they will lose in Cleveland in game six.
That is my prediction.
The West, this is, this is our, this is the one time of the entire year where we can all
sit here and say, maybe Houston will beat the Golden State.
It's fun.
You know, it's like a couple of days.
Until they tip the ball and they're like, Oh yeah, I forgot that everyone on Golden
State has won a championship and is really, really good.
And James Harden just going to dribble around and shoot threes.
Jumping back to the East real quick.
Which team do you think Isaiah Thomas is rooting for?
Oh, Celtics.
You think he's rooting for, why?
Yeah, Celtics.
Yeah.
He even tweeted when Brad Stevens.
Yeah.
He said Brad Stevens should be coach of the year.
He knows he's a better coach.
He, I mean, he, Brad Stevens made Isaiah Thomas.
Right.
Even though Isaiah Thomas like lost money this past year, the money that he lost was
gained because of Brad Stevens.
You know what I mean?
So he, it's definitely the Celtics, but it is the Isaiah Thomas.
I just want somebody to ask him that question.
It's also, here's a fun thing you can say about this series.
Kyrie Irving was on the calves last year.
Kyrie Irving's former team and Kyrie Irving's current team and Kyrie Irving's not playing
for either of them.
Meeting in the Eastern Conference finals.
So is Kyrie Irving the problem?
As far as he, the solution is just having Kyrie on your roster, does he stock you for
the next several years?
It's true.
It's true, but if you get Kyrie and just don't have, if you don't have Kyrie, you
once had Kyrie, but you don't have them, your team is good.
Yes.
Yes.
That's true.
Yes.
That's awesome to think about.
Well, Duke is still good.
We're thinking about it right now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So yeah, the West is going to be fun because I can't wait for people to, it's one of those
things where people are going to try to talk themselves into Houston just so that we
can have a good series.
And I hope it is a good series because we need one really, really good series.
But just now watching, watching Javail McGee get upset at James Harden for doing that
little like lean into him in the lane is going to be so funny.
Javail's head is going to explode, trying to figure out how to defend James Harden
in the paint.
Yeah.
And Draymond is going to get mad at Chris Paul for something and it's going to be great.
Like at the end of, at the end of one of the quarters or halves, they'll, they'll have
like a chest bumping thing going on.
Have you seen, have you seen Steph Curry's mouthpiece antics recently?
Oh my God.
It's getting worse.
He's chewing on it so much.
It's getting worse.
He's got the mouthpiece hanging out like by a thread as he's dribbling up the court
now.
Yeah.
He's like, he doesn't even bother to put it in.
It never goes in his mouth all the way.
Yes.
So, yeah.
Yeah.
You don't want to, just a little, a little bit, just like on a special, on a special
occasion, he'll just put like the end in.
Yeah.
You can, you can plausible deny bill.
It's like, I didn't hook up, but we just kissed.
Yeah.
I just kissed a little bit.
It was in Texas.
It doesn't count as California.
And then hockey, the national predators hate to see it.
They got shit pumped on their home ice.
Game seven, tough Winnipeg, Canada's hopes are still alive.
Winnipeg versus Las Vegas.
Woo.
Yep.
Love it.
Winnipeg versus Las Vegas, Washington versus Tampa.
That sound.
That sound you hear is, is Gary Bettman shitting his pants in anticipation of a Winnipeg Tampa
stand.
Oh my God.
Winnipeg Tampa is going to be fantastic.
If the caps don't make it, then that's what I'm rooting for.
Well, and the caps are like the perfect team because you, you honestly said to me, all
fair, I think it was a couple of days ago, you're like, do people really care about the
capitals?
And I was like, let me know, Vetchkin.
Yeah.
People care about a Vetchkin.
I think people do care about Vetchkin because he's so much fun to watch.
But yeah, nobody gives a shit about the Washington capitals, but, but a caps Vegas finals, I
think people would be interested.
Yes.
That's their, that's their best chance for ratings is the Vegas to, to keep going and
have this crazy, crazy run.
Which I think if you're a true blue hockey guy, like original six guy, where you're
sweater over your button down to the barn every night, you got to kind of got to root
against Vegas because this makes them a little bit of a rinky dink league.
If an extent, if an expansion team can come in and just steal the show.
I agree.
I agree a hundred percent with that.
It, it, um, there was a take quake on ESPN the other day.
I forget who wrote it, but they said that Las Vegas winning the championship in their
first year would actually be bad for Las Vegas.
Yeah.
For the franchise.
Yeah.
I agree.
A hundred percent.
Oh, absolutely.
You can't set the expectations.
No, you don't.
You, the last thing you'd want to do is have a resounding success.
Establish, establish immediate dominance.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Generations of fans be, you know, tied into the team.
Well, I mean, that's kind of what happened to the Bush family.
The first one to run for president, the first son to run for president one, and then low
energy Jeb comes around and everyone's like, wow, the family sucks.
Yeah.
So, yeah, you don't remember this.
Um, all right.
And then the capitals versus the Tampa Bay Lightning game one Friday night.
Tonight.
Are you excited?
I'm very excited.
Okay.
I don't know if I'm excited or terrified, probably a little bit of both.
Um, kind of like, you know, my love life in general, like you're, you're anticipating
something great, but you're also expecting a very embarrassing result.
Yes.
So where are you at with the other piece, the curse?
So, okay, I'm going to talk about this for 30 seconds and we're going to be done talking
about it because time has come for action, not talk, future me made a promise, past me
made a promise for future me.
Um, I tried to get out of it this morning by drinking shit coffee many times from, uh,
Kopey, Lluaka, I think it was called.
I don't know if it's shit coffee.
I don't know if you've noticed, but Hank and I have just gone silent on all your, uh,
you know, tactics to try to get out of it.
No, that's what I'm saying.
I tried to text it us this morning, you're like, Hey, I'm, I'm going to drink this shit
coffee.
Hank and I just didn't reply.
We're out of this.
I drank a $30 cup of shit coffee to try to get out of it, which, by the way, it was
delicious.
$30 was bananas.
I think I'm a shit coffee guy now.
That's fucking New York, New York.
They literally can sell you shit in a cup and be like, Hey, 30 bucks.
Yep.
No, best cup of $30 coffee made out of shit I've ever had.
Here's this corned beef.
Here's this, here's this pigs asshole and we're going to charge you $45 for to put
it on a slice of rye.
Yeah.
New York would eat.
Yes.
I realized that that was kind of circumventing a little bit.
So what I've decided is tomorrow I am going to eat shit.
Now it is going to be put into a capsule.
So I'm not going to taste the shit, but I'm going to put the shit in a capsule, put it
in my mouth, swallow it.
It'll be a not insignificant amount.
And then I'll just shit it out later.
I'll shit out the shit.
Circle of life.
All right.
That honestly sounds worse than eating shit.
Yeah.
It sounds so much worse.
So far to just something that could be over in two seconds, but okay.
Are you going to put it in yourself?
You have to.
What am I?
You're going to put it in the capsule.
I'm going to have somebody put the capsule in my mouth for me.
Put the shit in the capsule.
What if I put the have?
No, no, no.
Take it as a suppository.
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm asking?
What if I do a shit suppository?
I have a feeling this is part of the get out of it because you've already said, who can
we, who do we know that can get a shit?
No.
I said, no, you got to go do that.
I'll put the shit.
Listen, like I said.
You'll handle it.
You got it.
Yes.
Time is for action.
I'm going to put the shit in the capsule myself.
And then put it in your mouth.
And then I'm going to put the capsule in my mouth.
Okay.
This is just.
Capsules here.
It seems like an extra.
Capsules here.
Hank.
There you go.
Washington Caps.
Man.
We should just end the show right there.
Okay.
Thanks for tuning in guys.
Love you guys.
See you Monday.
Oh man.
Okay.
Before we get to Carlos Boozer.
I'm going to count that as your jazz joke.
Yeah.
So absolutely jazz joke.
There you go.
Just save you the whole summer.
Absolutely.
Hanging over your head.
Like a sword on a thread.
Okay.
Before we get to Carlos Boozer.
We have a new idea and we're unleashing it.
So you could probably maybe go see it right now.
It is the rollout.
The rollout.
It's beta.
It's the beta testing.
No, it's not beta.
Okay.
It's not beta.
We only do alpha sites.
So if you've paid attention at all to the sports media in the last, I don't know, five
years, but especially the last couple months, the MJ LeBron debate has reached a fevered
pitch.
Everyone's talking about it.
You can't escape it.
So what are, what is our solution?
We're going to lean into it hard.
And we purchased MJ versus LeBron.net.
So you can go to it right now, MJ versus LeBron.net.
And what you will find there is all of the Michael Jordan versus LeBron hypotheticals
that you have always desired and you click submit and then you find out who the winner
is.
A definitive winner.
Every single time.
It's totally not random.
You can set it up to basically mock everyone who makes this debate.
And if you pick the same thing over and over and just hit submit, it will give you a different
answer every time because this is all really stupid.
That's not what we did.
We literally have an algorithm that we work hours and hours and hours over.
We have a model that we've put together, statistical model using numerous spreadsheets
that took up several hard drives.
So this is all totally well researched stuff.
You can enter in hypotheticals like MJ and Space Jam against LeBron and Space Jam 2,
which hasn't come out yet, but still we accounted for that in our model.
You can put in MJ, but he spent the hour before the game repeatedly punching Steve Kerr
in the face versus LeBron, but he spent the hour before the game repeatedly sub-tweeting
Kevin Love.
Who wins that?
In your mind.
I think LeBron does.
I think that's MJ and Six.
Because MJ's got a sore hand from that.
LeBron just has sore thumbs.
No, but it's in LeBron's brain.
MJ and Six.
Let's debate that.
You can submit.
We can submit.
You can do MJ while Bill Cartwright is having sex with his mom versus LeBron while Delante
West is having sex with his mom.
MJ but with Skip Bills' brain or LeBron but with Nick Wright's brain.
Here's the best part.
We're going to keep adding.
This is just, like I said, a first run of it, a rollout.
We're going to keep adding.
So eventually we're going to have, I'm going to say something that we're going to probably
regret.
Okay.
Well, I was going to say a thousand.
We'll have a thousand.
No, no, no.
Variations.
We're going to have 500 variations for each guy.
That's a total of a thousand.
That's so many.
We can do it.
We literally sat here for 20 minutes and we came up with seven.
We also put one of those, can you just say one of those disclaimers really fast about
how the website is probably not going to be up right now?
This website is probably not going to be up right now when you're listening to this radio
podcast tomorrow morning.
Words MJ vs. Old LeBron, congratulating Young LeBron on Old LeBron's accomplishments.
Who you got?
I think that's a toss-up.
That's a draw.
That's a toss-up.
I mean, it's, it is Old MJ, but it also, you're kind of playing like 13-year-old LeBron.
But he doesn't know that he's accomplished everything.
You know what we should do?
Like, one out of every thousand submissions that you click, it should just say Kobe.
Yes.
Well, no, I was thinking what we should do is buy, it's still not Kobe and have it redirect
to it.
Maybe we'll do that.
Someone do that for us.
Please.
The dream for the site is to have an interactive video segment on it too, where we, we have
an Instagram account that's always live and that you can interact and have a debate against
just a basketball where, you know, you can, you can click if you're doing an Instagram
live.
This is even crazier than the saying we're going to do.
We're going to do like 500 bars.
It's a social experience.
No, no, it's good.
Yeah, exactly.
You can do like an Instagram live where you can accept somebody to join your Instagram
live.
The basketball will allow people to join the Instagram live and just debate it who's
better.
And then that will be live broadcast on the website.
And what we're also going to do, we're going to do, we're going to have like a Tinder kind
of set up on it where you can meet up with people and fight them in real life about MJ
and LeBron.
That would actually be great.
It'll be like Temecula.
Didn't that just, that was one of our brand dump ideas was to just have a Tinder for
fistfights.
Yes.
So now it'll be a Tinder for MJ versus LeBron.
MJ, LeBron debates.
Yes.
Just a Tinder for people that want to get together and talk MJ and LeBron.
We have a lot of ideas that we're not going to do any of them, but the website is not
even up right now.
Let's put that out there.
Okay.
Here's what we've done so far.
Just so everyone knows, we bought the website.
I sent an email to someone saying, build the website and hopefully God willing, it has
been built.
And we got a text back from somebody saying, I wake up at five, so I'll put it up when
I wake up.
Yes.
Shout out Jeff Hunter.
Wait, has it been built yet?
Are they going to build it?
No, they're building it as we speak.
Okay.
They're built in progress.
I think it's ready.
MJ vs. LeBron.net.
MJ vs. LeBron.
Get it?
It's the net.
Net.
Like a basket.
Swish.
I want to get .edu because we'd be taking people to school.
One last question about this.
Yes.
To actually have a university.
Yeah.
One last question about this.
Do you think when Greeny catches wind of this, this is like his like going to browsers
or Euge's?
No.
Late at night when his wife is asleep, he's like, I got to go check out.
I got to go find out MJ vs. LeBron because really in my Greeny heart, I actually do want
to find out who's the goat.
I do care.
It's like people who are homophobes.
Yeah.
It turns out that they're usually certainly gassed with it.
So Greeny is out there.
Greeny is the most public disavour of the MJ-LeBron debate, which can only mean one thing.
He wants it.
Maybe he started, maybe his patient zero.
He needs it.
Was Mike Greenberg the first person to debate MJ vs. LeBron?
Maybe.
Chances are he probably was.
But either way, this means that Greeny will love this site because this site is the B
all and all for all MJ vs. LeBron debates.
It's going to be everything.
Literally the only place, what we're going to do, the final act of this site is we're
going to make all MJ vs. LeBron debates happen only on this site so it can't happen anywhere
else.
We're going to trademark MJ vs. LeBron, then we're going to just fire the entire website
into the Pacific Ocean.
It won't just be done with it all.
It's going to be great.
It's actually a great move by us.
All right.
So somebody out there take all those ideas that we just came up with and write them down.
No one really do the Kobe thing though.
It's still not Kobe.
Redirect to MJ vs. LeBron on that.
Okay.
All right.
We have Carlos Buzer.
Quick shout out to our friend Ricky O'Donnell for helping us out get this one.
Shout out ROD.
Yeah.
He's the best.
You can follow him, SBN, underscore Ricky.
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And now here is Carlos Boozer.
We now welcome on a very special guest to me.
It is Carlos Boozer.
He is two-time NBA All-Star national champion.
He is also in the big three.
So the big three is back this summer.
The big three, you can get tickets to the big three.com, all games Friday nights, FS1
or Fox.
Carlos is going to be on the ghost ballers.
You should check it out.
Really fun little league that they started last year and I'm excited to watch you, Carlos.
So let's start there.
Are you in game shape?
Are you ready to dominate and get your 15 and 10 like usual?
Guys, thanks for having me on.
Yeah, absolutely, man.
I'm looking forward to it.
I'm a little tired now, but I've been working out like crazy trying to keep up with these
youngsters out there.
But I train about five days a week and I'm in good shape.
I'm looking forward to playing a three-on-three.
I got Mike Bibby and Ricky Davis with me and a couple other guys, a couple other youngsters.
It's going to be a fun experience, man.
Love it.
How does the half-court game translate to your skill set?
I would imagine pretty well.
Yeah, it's different.
I mean, obviously it's going to be a lot more space, three-on-three.
Yeah, I want them to operate.
I can play with some of my new handles.
I've been in the gym, putting up some stuff, watching all these, you know, young stuff.
These cutlery runs, Greek free.
I don't got that kind of stuff, but I got some stuff I'm going to surprise y'all with.
Okay.
The cool thing about it is they got the four-point ball.
I've been working on my four-point three.
I like it.
So the real important question, though, is how many hold-dats are we going to get?
All day.
Listen, you've got to come to the game.
You've got to come to the game.
I'm going to scream a whole lot from the laughter.
I'm going to scream a whole lot all game long.
I'm going to scream up for myself, if I make a bucket, or for all my teammates.
How did that start?
It's a long story.
Obviously with the Chicago Bulls, we had a really good team, and it was headlined by D.
Rose.
But we also had the offensive player of the year, Joe Pinoa, who was known for his defense.
He's not really known to be a prolific scorer.
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So Sean Stevens's fowling Ricky Davis on a layup attempt
on his own basket to try to get triple double is the perfect
basketball moment.
Haha.
That's it.
Wow.
So I said 2010 so you go to the jazz we I mean
you got a good memory by the way well I mean I I've been I've been a
fan of yours and you know the Bulls the 2010 free agency was like
the it basically changed how the MBA worked going forward.
like a seminal moment where, you know, LeBron's going somewhere, D Wade, Chris Bosch, you're
part of that. Do you, what, what was your memory from that summer and how it all went
down?
No, it was incredible, man, because I was, you know, you taught jazz and we were struggling
trying to get past the Spurs and the Lakers. And I thought me and Darren Williams had a
really good thing going, but we didn't have the size, you know, we needed like a seven
foot, like Marcus can be kind of player. Um, and we just, you know, they didn't have the
budget to go get that. And so as I'm looking at other teams, obviously talking to LeBron
and talking to D Wade and seeing what they're going to do. Cause they're, I mean, Joe Johnson
was also a failure that summer, but you can find with the Hawks, I don't know, 27 million
or something. It's not pretty quickly. Um, and then the Mari signed with the mix. So
it was pretty much, you know, me, D Wade and Bosch kind of waiting to see what LeBron
was going to do. And so LeBron was very clear. He was like, yeah, yeah, do what you're going
to do and I'll make my choice. So, you know, then Bosch and D Wade signed with Miami heat.
No, this is your, the same, same agent. And then I love the bulls man. I'll be honest, man.
Like what they had moving forward yet, D Rose, who I worked with a year, Joe Kimmel was a real
six 11 that played bigger than his size. Luau Dang was an iron man and play both sides of the ball.
He was, you know, offense and defense. Um, then you had a great bench with, with Todd Gibson
and we had CJ Watson. So I just, I love the roster and then obviously not playing for
kids, but obviously, you know, playing against Doc Rivers and knowing that kids was the, was
the brains behind their defense. Him giving that job as the new coach to Chicago Bulls
made them extremely attractive to me. A powerful looking to win a championship.
I found with the bulls and we had enough cap space. Um, I took a little bit less to give
enough cap space for LeBron to, to make his decision, hopefully to come to the bulls. But
I mean, obviously you guys saw, you know, the show where he was like, I'm taking my talent
for Southeast, but there was a good buzz around Chicago, but he might come join us too. Oh yeah.
But obviously everything worked out for him. He went to, you know, got two championships and
we had a lot of battles with the heat, man. It was, it was tough. It was tough. We had a couple
of series where we thought we had it. You know, even despite the Rose getting hurt, you know,
Dave Robinson came in and played great for us. I remember, you guys remember John Lucas
stepped in one year and had a great series against the heat trying to, you know, make up for the
loss of the Rose, but it's tough to beat the best player in the world when you don't have your best
player. Yeah. Well, during the Tibs air bowls, there was, there was rumblings that maybe he
pushed the team a little too hard in the regular season and they didn't have that extra gear in
the playoffs. Do you think that was a fair criticism? How was, you know, how did he coach
day to day practice to practice? Yeah. Let me just start off by saying, this is a great coach.
You know, he's that coach that will stay, you know, in the trenches with you. He'll be at the
gym at five in the morning, watching film and all the lab, the last 20 NBA champions and how
they were successful and what the common denominator was. He's that guy that will bring you in and
show you film or what he thinks you can do even better. Like, he's a guy that will help you
reach your potential if you put the time in with him. That being said, he comes from the Van
Gundy, Jeff Van Gundy, you know, that kind of era where you practice three hours a day. And it's
not just, you know, you don't rest your stars. Everybody has the same workload. You may have
different responsibilities, but all 15 guys are equal. You share the same workload. So, you know,
you've got a guy like D Rose playing 42 minutes a night. He's also practicing three hours a day
every day of the week, you know, and that, and I think, unfortunately, it ended up taking a toll
on us. I mean, there was a series where, like, I think I went through the whole playoffs with
planar fasciitis, which you guys don't know. It's like you're stepping on glass every time you step
on your foot. Extremely painful. I think Joe Kinoa had the same thing. I remember Luau Dang having
a knee thing, and obviously D Rose had, you know, the worst of words, you know, have a CTL and MCL
and a whole bunch of knee surgery. So it seemed like there was a point in time where we'd have an
incredible regular season. And then during the playoffs, there was either one or two or three
of our major guys that played the heavy minutes would be banged up. So there has, I think, I think
there has to be this balance between preparation and game. Absolutely. So looking back on that,
do you think that that 2011, 2012, because the 2010 11 team won 62 games and that was like the
ascendant team lost to Miami in five and Eastern Conference finals? Conference finals. Then the
next season it's like, all right, this is the, this is the team. Do you think that like that team
competes for a championship and can, can do it go all the way if that, you know, Derek Rose injury
doesn't happen in game one in the first round? If D Rose doesn't get hurt, I think we, I think
we break through that year. And you know, I think we also, we also assigned with Hamilton, who had
that NBA, a championship experience, who was a great big range player for us. You know, we had
Kyle Korva, we had a, we had a group of guys that could really, you know, compete on both ends. We
had a roster where we could play. I think it was like the number one or two defensive team in the
league. We were a top five in offense. I mean, we were, we were a very complete team that year.
And then boom, B Rose gets hurt. And it just, it's just the air out of the balloon for us,
you know what I mean? Cause we all, we all thought that was our year to win the whole thing.
Yeah. What was your, what was the team like the next year though, with the will he come back,
won't he come back? He's the help, you know, the doctor says healthy, but his, his brother
doesn't want him to come back. What, what was the team like in the locker room? And was there
frustration towards Derek being like, come on man, come and play. We're all going through stuff. Get
out here and play with us. No, it was very tough because, you know, don't get me wrong. Like,
let me, let me just make this very clear too. Derek was a guy that would go through a brick
wall. Like he loved basketball. As you guys can tell, they share, he has a lot of basketball left
in his body. You know, him being injured all those years is taking a toll on him. It's like
a lot of people, he's a tough kid, man. Straight baller. There's a lot of pressure on him being
from Chicago. You know, not that many people can carry the weight of the city on their back.
You know, obviously we see LeBron do it, but very, very rarely do you see a guy like, you know,
like DeRose from the city of Chicago carry that team on his back, but he was trying to, you know,
so imagine going through all these injuries and what happened. And, you know, or obviously we,
we desperately need him. We have guys that compete. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying our team wasn't
good without him. We, you know, we did the best that we could, but clearly we're a better team
with DeRose in the lineup. And so with him not being able to go and then he's, you know,
he's out there practicing and, you know, to us, he looks great, but only he knows his body. You
know, so he knows, you know, if he can go and compete against whoever we're playing against,
true holiday, I think it was a six or maybe I'm not really sure, but at the end of the day,
you know, he had to do what's best for him and his body is looking for the future.
And no one could predict that he would get here three years in a row and miss the rest of the
season. So it was a tough choice for him and it was for us because we, we needed him really bad,
but we tried to go on without him. You know, we just continue to fall short.
I know you've addressed this before, but I need to ask it and maybe a slightly different question
or slightly different way. Okay. Who did you actually think you were fooling when you spray
painted your hair? Oh, bro, this story is crazy. So obviously I'm, and I'm baldheaded as you guys
know. Oh, we know that's why it was like, who is Siebu fooling? Yeah. So the, the thing y'all
Beijing had come out, right? And so my, my, my barber had been talking to me about this thing
for months and months and months. And I'm like, ah, you know, I'm cool, whatever. And he's like,
now, listen, I could do it just right. So it looks like it looks natural. Like it just blends in.
So I'm like, I, I'm all right, let's do it. So I do it right. We're in Boston
and he comes to cut my hair up. I can't really see obviously he's cutting my hair. I'm on the phone
or whatever. He does this, he does this thing, dies it or whatever. I go in the bathroom to
look at my hair in the mirror and I'm like, what just happened? It's because it looks like it's
like a whole payment, like a painted like par par black on my head. So I'm trying to share,
pull it out and it won't come out. And I'm like, oh my God, it like stained my, my scalp. So then
I go to the game. I'm gonna go to the shoe line the next day. My teammates are handing it to me.
Like, Luke is like booze. What is that? Like what? Take that, take that wig off. I'm like, bro,
I wish I could take it off. I can't. Yeah, not, not, not your mission. We're playing the Celtics
and it's KG, Paul Pierce, Ray Allen, Rondo, the whole crew,
nationally televised game on ESPN. And I'm having the hell of a game. I had like 20 points and
20 rebounds. So the camera was on me. Heady. I can't even, I still get, I still get crap from it
today. People hit me up on my Twitter or my, my Instagram. I'm like, booze really, bro. So anyway,
point to be made is sometimes players mess up, man. And that's how I messed up that needless
to say. I learned, I learned my lesson and there will never be a day's in again.
I'm sure that KG didn't say anything to you during the game. He seems like a guy that would just
kind of lay off. Definitely. That's actually, that's the worst team that you could have fucked up like
that around. Oh my, I'm trying to tell you it was incredible, bro. It was incredible. Did they notice
right away? Did they just go after you right, like right from the tip? Did you see it? Of course,
right when I walked in the arena, the truth was like booze. Well, what the fuck is that booze?
I said, bro, I messed up, bro. I would have called in sick. Yeah. I mean, I remember the picture.
The bad thing about it is I literally tried to shampoo it out like seven times, like literally
in the shower, seven times, finish up and it would come out. It took like three, four days to come
out. And I think you actually made it worse because I, by the way, the barber, the, the barber
was fired. Yes. Never get, never use it again. I think you made it worse. So because I remember
the game and it was the shiniest head I've ever seen in my life. So shiny. Remember that? Oh,
and then you know, it's funny. I want to say like a year ago, I saw Carlos Beltran do the same thing.
Yes. Yes. He did learn from my mistake, bro. Oh man. You need to do like a PSA commercial. Be like,
Hey guys, listen, don't let your bald. Don't even try it. Your barber is going to try to sell you
on the shit. I'm telling you, fake, fake hair, not once. Did you, uh, did you like look in the
rule book to see if you were allowed to wear a hat during a game? Oh my goodness. No, but I do.
I should have thought about that hoodie. Mellow. Yeah. Yeah. Um, all right. The other, the other,
the other classic boozer clip that I have to bring up when you, when you punch the ref in the
dick, maybe the greatest celebration. Yeah. So how did you, how did you, yeah, how did you, uh,
walk that one back? How did you, how did you get out of that one after like in the private
conversations after? Yeah, it was one of those things like we're in Dallas on the road and,
and they're taking it too. It's like, we're down by like 20, 20 points and we're making a comeback.
So that was one of the, like me, I made a move on dirt, hit him with a spin move,
scooped it in and, and Danny Crawford, the ref called the air one. So I got hype, you know,
me, I'm screaming out and I happened to feel like a, like a air fist pump in the air and it
happened on land right in the chicken nuggets, man. I felt so bad for Danny, bro. I'm like, Danny,
I'm sorry, man. Um, but it was in celebration of us coming back from being down by like 20 early.
And I asked him if he was okay and thank God I took a little bit off of it because I saw the,
I saw the stripes a little bit, but he was okay. He was all right. But it's one of my favorite,
my kid's favorite highlights of me though. Yeah, that's great. Yeah. I mean, how can you not love
it? Everyone loves, everyone loves nut shots and it was like the perfect, it almost was like a
wrestling nut shot. And everybody loves referees, right? Yeah, right, right. Everybody loves referees.
Exactly. Um, all right. The C-keek question you put in promo code take, you get $10 off your C-keek
purchase. All right. This might be a little bit of a weird question, but do you think Garforman
and John Paxson were wiretapping tips? Deliver wire? No, I don't think they were wiretapping.
You sure? Who said, who said that? Tips did. I don't think so. No, I don't, did he really? I mean,
I don't think he outright said it. Listen, I don't, oh no, I don't think that just
John Paxson and Garforman are very good GMs and presidents of basketball. They've done a really
good job of drafting. You know, I'm sure they drafted Joaquin and B-Rose and, you know, Luard
Dane, they've done a pretty good job over the years. Um, Kirk Heinrich, they got some really good
Bulls players into Chicago. They got me to come there as well. But anyway, my point is, I don't
think they were tapping, tapping tips and when it's conversation, I doubt that. Do you think they
were putting like moles? I don't know. Listen, I have no idea. You never know, bro. I was like,
I was working. I mean, you never know what someone might do. I just don't see it. I don't see him.
I don't see him doing that, but you never know. Right. So, so I guess a better way to ask questions.
Do you, as a player, do you feel the tension that can happen between a front office and a head coach,
or is that something that doesn't really come across? Oh, no question. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, no question. You know there was tension between a front office and kids
over in Chicago. They didn't see out of eye. They may not have agreed on a couple of different
last minute signings and what have you. Like, for example, you got to ask, you got to ask tips,
but I, you know, kids may want a certain guy to be the 13th and 14th guy on the team and
they may want somebody else at the same time, you know, they may be trying to, you know,
put somebody in a position to be on the roster that kids really doesn't want to be on the roster.
So there's tension there and it's saying, and also I'm sure, like I remember
a couple instances where, you know, whether we need certain rest days that, you know,
kids, one of us to have or the front office, one of us to have, they didn't see out of eye on what
have you. There might have been some minute restriction things for certain guys when they
were coming back off of injuries. And, you know, but just definitely, you definitely
feel the tension between the front office and, and a coach. And on the flip side of it,
like I remember being in Utah and it was awesome to see how, you know, those guys, Larry Miller,
would just let coach Sloan do, do his thing. Like he hired coach Sloan, shout out to coach Sloan,
Jerry Sloan, and he would let him coach the team. There was no interference at all. It was, you know,
this is your team coaching how you want to coach them. So, but it's interesting how you see nowadays
coaches, coaches want to be the GM and, or the, or the president and the coach now.
Right.
Because I think kids have in Minnesota.
Yeah. And yeah, it's, it's always interesting to see, I always like, you know, how players get
kind of stuck in the middle. Like do you, because you obviously, the coach is your guy, but the
guys who brought you there, the guys who can trade you, the guys who, who sign your paychecks are
above your coach. So how you deal with those relationships and how you kind of walk the line.
Right. Absolutely.
I just want to assure you, big cat and I are, are partial owners of the New Zealand breakers.
We are not going to be making any basketball decisions for our head coach. We're going to
let our coach coach. That being said, would you like to come play for our team?
Let's do it. How much you got there?
We'll have our finance guys work that out. We don't get involved in like the, the nitty gritty.
Yeah, we don't do that.
Wait, are you trying to, are you trying to do the thing? Are you trying to do the thing that you
did in Cleveland where you just agreed to play for a team and then we're going to send you the
contract and you're going to back out? Is that what's going on?
Oh, here you go.
That's funny. No, I'm definitely not doing anything like that.
It's crazy about that is it was like, it was like this. So they, they, they take away my
option for the third year and I'll become a free agent and obviously it was a hope to me
reshining with the team. So they make me an offer and I'm thinking, I mean, I just,
I'm not a millionaire. I'm making a couple hundred thousand dollars a year. I think it was
like 400,000, 500,000 dollars a year. So they make a great offer and then I'm getting all these
offers. As soon as they hit the wire that I was a free agent, I'm getting all these incredible
offers from other teams, from Denver, from, from Atlanta, which at the time was a,
was a new, from the Bobcats, which was like a newer team. And then obviously from the jazz.
And so I go back to management. I'm like, listen guys, I'm getting offered double
what you guys are offering me. And I talk to the front office and talk to the players association
and they're like, listen, Carlos, did you do resign with the cast? There's going to be an
incredible investigation. You guys are going to be under review because there's no way you,
there's no, there are no handshake agreements. And if you guys remember before that, a couple
years before me, there was a situation in Minnesota where I don't, I can't remember the player. I
don't want to name somebody the wrong name, but there was a player who went, made a handshake
deal with the team and they got penalized for it. So when I had that information, I'm like,
no, I don't, I don't, I don't, I want them to come up and match. If they match or come in,
anywhere close to what I'm getting offered, I'm going to say, I really want to keep playing with
LeBron and see where that road goes and see if we can win a championship. Of course I did,
but it was, it was such a big, it was 39 million dollar difference. Like how can I turn that down?
If you're getting offered 30 and someone offered you 72, what do you do?
That's a good point. Yeah, that's a good point. I think it was Joe Smith,
by the way. I think it was Joe Smith with the Timberwolves.
I think, I just, I, I, I could remember who the player was. I just remember the incident happening.
Yeah. But just know these are New Zealand dollars. So they're essentially worth,
they're, they're two, they're twice as many of them, but they're not worth as much. So it's still
double. Yeah. Hold that. Hold that, Joe. Hold that, Joe. That rings in my head forever.
One last question for you about your time in Cleveland. Did LeBron ever make you
like read weird books that he was reading? No, I mean, when I was in Cleveland, he wasn't really
reading books. Yeah. I mean, this is something he developed, I think later. Maybe when he got to
Miami and I remember him reading, I think, oh, I can't remember exactly what book it was.
Godfather 2. I remember him being on him in the locker room. Maybe, but I feel like it was,
they made it into a movie. What's one of the movies that came out? Godfather 2. Oh, he's
reading the book, Step Brothers. Really? Yes. I think he was reading the Step Brothers in the
locker room. I was like, I liked that because it was like, he was like the combo for the storm
or something. Yes. Yeah. Exactly. Um, all right. I have one last question. We'll let you go. So the
big threes is another one. Yeah. Another one. A big threes coming up. You can watch it Friday
nights on FS1. Yeah, we're checking out. Absolutely. I think the championship is in New
York. It's in Brooklyn. It's in Brooklyn. So we'll be there. We'll be at the championship
and we'll be screaming, hold that when you come to the one in Chicago. I'll be there. That I'll
be there too. July. That one will be Seaboo going back to Chicago. We'll be a hell of a hell of an
event. And we got Nate and we got Nate Robinson. Oh, hell yeah. Hell yeah. All right. So my last
question before we let you go. I actually mentioned this to, uh, PFT and Hank before we got on here
and they didn't know the story. So I think some people don't know the story, but you have to
tell us the story about Prince renting your house. So, uh, great segue, by the way. So as I go to
Utah with that, with that awesome deal that was almost double, um, I buy a house in LA and it's
in Bel Air and it's beautiful and it's 18,000 square feet. It's an incredible house. I get the
house, I decorate it and the season is about to start in Utah. So it's like, I don't know, September,
uh, close to October and we saw him and see Halloween start the NBA season. So I'm back in
Utah, uh, getting ready for the season. I got to be there for at least seven or eight months,
you know, hoping to make playoffs. And if you contender, what have you, my first, it's like my
first year in Utah. Anyway, um, during the course of the season, uh, my agent in, in, in LA, my
real estate agent named Roxanne Nelson calls me up and goes, Hey, there's someone I want to rent a
house out. I'm like, I'm like, Rox, I only spent like a month in the house. Like I'm, I'm not
renting my house out. And she goes, Oh, but it's, it's 95 grand a month. I said, well, you know what,
I think I might want to rent a house out 95 grand a month, you know, and it's for the year. And so
that means I'm gonna make over a million dollars just renting my house out to somebody. So I'm like,
okay, I'm in. So, uh, fly to, fly to LA, gotta sign a paperwork or whatever. A car pulls up and
prints, bro. And I'm like, I said, Rox, is that printed? She goes, yeah, that's print. I said,
whoa. So I'm all excited. You know, I don't, I haven't got a lot of thoughts on so many times in
my life. Very cool guy, signed a paperwork, no problem. Took him around the career. We shot a
little bit of hoops upstairs on, I had a basketball court that was on the rooftop and, uh, it was
cool. So then I go back to Utah and during the course of the season, I sprained my, I sprained
my hamstring, I tear my hamstring. And so Judy Cito, who was one of the best physical therapists
that we have in basketball, lives in LA and now she's one of the, uh, PTs for the Lakers. So I go
out there to see her and I hit, I hit Prince up. I said, hey, Prince, I'ma come by the house. If
you need anything, let me know. Blah, blah, blah. No response. So I get to the, I get to the address
and I look at the gate and I had two big lions on the gate as a black gate with two gold lions
and they're not there anymore. It's like this symbol and I don't know what, I don't know what
the symbol. I've never seen it before. I don't know what this is. So I'm gonna be, I think this is
my house in it. So, uh, I drive up the street and I come back and I'm like, this is my house.
Like, I don't know where the lions are at, but this symbol is the gate that, as I saw in the
gate to my house. So I put the code in, it opens up, it works. I drive up the driveway,
long story short, Prince changed everything in my house. I had it all decorated like pretty cream
and neutral colors, earth colors. He ripped all, he took all that out, put black and purple and
everywhere, everywhere. It's purple stuff all over the house. I'm like, what is going on? I'm
getting kind of hot too because this wasn't part of our agreement. You know what I'm saying? Like we,
we didn't have no agreement where you could have changed his house around. So then
he, uh, I'm trying to call him. I'm like, yo, P.S. are you listening? You gotta call me now. You
switched up the house. That wasn't part of the agreement. Like, I'm calling him, calling him,
calling him. Like six, seven weeks have gone by. It's almost been two months and I'm not my lord.
Like we just gotta sue him. And who really wants to sue Prince? I really didn't want to sue Prince.
So no, who, who does that? Right? So finally he calls me back and he's in Asia on a tour
for his album 3121. And he's like, no, don't worry. Like when I moved out of the back,
I was never there. He wants me 500 K just to ease my mind and it was just trust me.
When I move my leases up, you got nothing to worry about. So let me tell you how much money Prince
had. Okay. He spends over a million dollars leasing my house out for the year. My house is
fully decorated, 18,000 square feet, like a mall takes all of my stuff out, including the carpet,
puts in storage, okay? Refurnishes the entire house. So it looks like his house when you pull
up on it, right? Wires me 500 grand to ease my mind. By the way, my mind was ease. And then
when he moves out, takes all of his stuff out and puts all my stuff back in, like he was never
there. Obviously I wired the money back to him. Incredible bro. So anyway, so he's a great guy.
I saw him again at the, he was like a ghost. He was like a ghost. You basically like never,
like even like, I heard that there was a one room he made into like a full barbershop in a
salon and there wasn't like, did you walk in it and like, he had a salon in one room.
He made my weight room into a nightclub with a disco bar. I thought it was pretty cool. I never
saw that before. But I mean, it was like, he had one, yeah, he made one little room. He made it
into a dance floor where his band will perform that. Like it was, it was, I mean, some of the stuff
was pretty freaking cool, but it was just the fact that he had the money to do that. It didn't
break an eye. So it was, it was definitely a shocker when you found the, the try to do the
death, but Prince was, it was awesome dude. Great tenant and ease my mind.
Oh man. Thank you so much, Carlos. This has been a ton of fun and we look forward to watching you
big three. I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to go to the one in Chicago and then you
hopefully be in the championship in Brooklyn. And then we'll see you down in New Zealand next year
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Big three. I can't wait to go. I actually want to go to the finals if he's here in Brooklyn.
That's a big time future you're saying you're going to Chicago.
Yeah. No, I mean, I would love to go if I can. Well, I don't even know what date is, but I'll be there.
Cebu. Cebu is just great nickname. Yeah. He is. I think, I can't remember who came up with that.
I think it was Linda Cohen. Probably his parents. No, I think Linda Cohen started calling him Cebu.
I was like, that's her day. That actually plays. Okay. Let's get to some segments.
First up, we have a Stay Woke. So what's the Stay Woke? So I don't know if you watched the
Wednesday night baseball game. I think it was when we were on our plane back. So yeah,
that would be Wednesday night and Marlins Man, our good friend, was sitting directly behind
home plate. Guess who was sitting next to? Who? Rudy Giuliani. So Rudy Giuliani was heard to
remark later on. I think he gave like an interview to The Times or The New Yorker. He said that he
just spoke with Donald Trump the night before at 8.15. Guess where Rudy Giuliani was at 8.15?
Behind home plate sitting directly next to Marlins Man. Do you know what Rudy's doing for
Donald Trump? He's his lawyer. I don't know. He's one of his lawyers. What? He's one of his, yeah,
legal representatives. Is he a lawyer? Yeah. Okay. He was the district attorney. That's right.
Yeah. He's tough on crime. Very tough. Broken windows. Yeah. You see the broken windows. Yep.
And you put a guy in an electric chair and then everyone stops with crime. And then that crime's
done. Crime's done. You spray paint. You get a Sharpie. You write a little something on a wall.
Boom, you're dead. Yeah. You stand up against that wall and we'll shoot you. Yeah, exactly.
So Rudy Giuliani is Donald Trump's one of his legal advisors. Marlins Man is also
a legal advisor. He's a lawyer. People forget that. He's very successful and has a lot of horses.
My theory is that I think that Lawrence Levy Marlins Man is joining the Donald Trump dream
team because Trump can't get any more lawyers to represent him. He's been rejected by like five or
six of the top law firms. Marlins Man's probably number seven or number eight. And if I was in a
tough spot and I needed somebody on my side to just like harass my opponent until they got so annoyed.
Wear them down. Lean on them. Lean on them a lot. Yeah. I'm going to Marlins Man. Probably first.
Could you imagine Marlins Man being Trump's lawyer? Can you imagine Marlins Man? Yes. I actually can
too. It would be unbelievable. I mean we would then we as a podcast would be like one heartbeat away
from the nuclear button. Yeah. Just think about that. Yes. And if you're Robert Mueller, you
walk into that office and you see Marlins Man in the Oval Office sitting there in his visor
in his orange jersey, you turn right around and you walk right the fuck out of that Oval Office.
Because yeah, Mueller, you might have served in Vietnam, but guess what? Marlins Man supports
people who serve in Vietnam. He almost went to Vietnam but didn't. But he didn't because he went
again on a trip and he went to like some really nice resort. Some of his horses come from Vietnam.
Yeah. He's taken planes with really bad turbulence. True. Yes. He's been in almost five plane crashes.
Listen. And was almost suborted. So think about that. Marlins Man might not have been to Vietnam,
but you know where he has been? The Virgin Islands. Yep. To do some investigative journalism. So
that shit. And I'll tell you what, the fly's down there. Whoo. Really bad. Really bad. Yeah. You
think napalm's bad. Man. You haven't had a sunburn? You haven't had a sand flea crawl up your
toes. You have a little Mai Tai. Like four o'clock and forget to put on some sunscreen, fall asleep
in the sun. Yikes. Ho Chi Minh Trail doesn't have anything on some of the lagoons in the Virgin
Islands. This thing raised there. I'm very excited to keep track of this because it's one of those
crazy, crazy things that could actually happen. I would love it so much if Marlins Man joined
Trump's legal team. Hey, by the way, can you imagine the, you know, because you've got a lot
to have cameras in the Supreme Court for some reason. I don't know why they do that, but you're
just not allowed to videotape it. Imagine the courthouse sketch of the Supreme Court with
people arguing in front of it. And you see Marlins Man in the background with his yellow,
with his orange visor and his jacket sitting back there in the gallery. I mean, I can imagine it
because he can be everywhere. He's everywhere at every time and nowhere ever. History textbook
writers are going to be so confused when they have to write the chapter on how Marlins Man got
Donald Trump out of getting impeached. I have breaking moves. Oh, big time breaking moves,
folks. Huge breaking moves. The haters, the doubters, all of them, which is really just
Hank and a little bit of you PFT. Huh? MJ vs. LeBron.net is live. Oh shit. Hold on. That is nice.
Okay. We're live, baby. We're going. We're live. All right. So here's the fur. I'm gonna run the
first simulation. MJ vs. MJ is a large pair of acid wash cargo jeans vs. LeBron is a banana boat.
LeBron one in six. Oh, okay. Damn. The scoundrel sweep. That's a good one. Okay. I'll do one real
quick. I'm gonna go with a goat named MJ with a gambling problem against LeBron playing Titan
for the Browns. Okay. Who do you guys have? Well, MJ. Yeah, it's an MJ. It's MJ in a sweep.
And that's a goat named MJ with a gambling problem. Oh, this website's gonna be,
we're gonna add so many tomorrow. We're gonna spend all afternoon adding these. Can you text
them to have one that says Kobe just pop up? We're gonna do the Kobe, we're gonna do, someone's
gonna buy the Kobe site for us. Right. No, I know that. We're gonna put that on someone else. I'm
just saying. Yeah, we'll add that. We'll add that feature. We, this is, remember, we're adding,
this is just a little, this is a little baby. This is just, it's just hatched. It's a butterfly.
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around, check, you know, check it out. One of my favorite parts is we have the, the same gorilla
in a hard hat that we had on draft, Josh Allen, that's just cranking the UR visitor number.
That never stops. That gorilla is working overtime. We have to pay that gorilla for some point.
You don't have to pay a gorilla. Internet gorilla? Oh yeah. Good point. Yeah. Tweet us,
tweet us, your simulations when you go on the site tomorrow. Make sure to screen grab it and
tweet it. This fucking site looks so bad. It's a brick wall. It's so bad. It's the worst website
ever. It's worse than draft, Josh Allen, but it's so good. Oh man. You also have to select,
like it should just be random, like it should just, no, you should select. No, because you want
to select the matchup. You got, I mean, you got to really get in the debate, Hank. Come on.
Like this is, we're not, we're not just half. Can I do one more? Yeah, two or more. Okay.
This one is BJ Armstrong on Steve Kerr's shoulders wearing an MJ jersey. Okay. Against
Deli on Larry Hughes' shoulders wearing a LeBron jersey. Ooh. Ooh, LeBron and seven. Oh, yeah.
The deli factor. Man. That bothers me. Okay. Let's get back to segments. We have a,
let's see. Oh, I lost my notes because I got so excited about MJ versus LeBron.
We have a well actually for Darren Revelle. So the people's pest, I think that's what we
should call Darren Revelle for now. The people's pest, Darren Revelle, got into it with Marvin
Jones Jr., wide receiver for the Detroit Lions on Wednesday. Marvin Jones did something awesome.
So he and his wife bought a cupcake factory or a store and bakery. Well, it's a cupcake factory.
It's a factory. Yeah. Yeah. And he was very excited about it. He tweeted a picture said,
look, this is awesome. My wife is going to be running this cake shop. Really cool. Well,
here comes Darin Revelle from the Rafters telling him that the most important part about
opening a franchise is to understand that franchisor fees come off gross sales, not net
sales. This franchise or for example, takes 9% off gross sale for a marketing and a royalty fee
is the brand that valuable versus just opening a new cake shop and basically shits all over
Marvin Jones Jr.'s dream and tells him that he made a terrible investment and it ends with
Darren Revelle fighting with people online and eventually telling someone, I've read more franchise
disclosure documents than any journalist on earth. And scene. He is Debbie Downer in real life.
Yes, of course. I love Revelle, but I hate Revelle. Of course, they're aware of the fact that they
have to pay franchise fees. That's the decision that you weigh when you decide to do that.
Like Revelle, has Revelle ever seen somebody tweet a picture of the new Steph Curry shoes
and been like, actually, you can make your own shoes for about 30 cents on the dollar for what
you pay to go to a store to buy those. It's just a simple rubber and fabric. He's just a walking
around. Well, actually, well, actually, I don't think that you read the franchise disclosure
forms as closely as I did. I love Marvin's reaction to him too. He just put him in his place.
He's like, you're weird. He was like, I feel sorry for your wife. Yeah, exactly. It's true.
It's very, very true. Good point. Marvin Jones, you won that one. Okay. Next up, we have a respect
to biz. This is for Peter King, who it came out that Peter King offered to resign in 2015
during deflate gate for shoddy reporting. And it is the most respecting of the biz that has
ever happened. Yeah, I love it. I love it. So this is this is not only the most respecting
of the biz thing. It's the most Peter King thing. Yes. Like Peter King treats football
journalism like he's the secretary of state. He he definitely came. I just imagine the scene.
He goes into his editor's office. It's like what's what's it called in Japan,
Sipuchi. Sipuku. Sipuku. He just he gets down on his knees and he kind of just he like hands
over his his resignation like, sir, I resigned from my post. I'm no longer able to serve this
this magazine. I've brought great dishonor to sports. So he walks in and he like tenders
as a letter of resignation to the guy that's like airbrushing nipples off the swimsuit calendar.
He's like, sir, I have brought great shame to you. Sir, please take my resignation. I apologize.
You will never hear from me again. And then his editor is like, Peter, you just defended
the NFL like the shield that you are. Yeah. Like what's new here? Come on, dude, go back to work.
What's the issue here, Peter? He's like, I was wrong by several hundreds of a degree on the
PSI levels of footballs in a game that New England won by 50 points. I took the NFL side for a change.
Well, no, pretty much. And then insert Peter's picture with the lobster bibs.
If I was his editor, I would have accepted the letter and then let Peter like walk down the
hallway and be like, Peter, we need you back. Yeah. And Peter will be like, thank you so much,
sir. Wait, he, I think Peter needed 30 seconds of punishment. Yeah. Just thinking that he
would resign that he did the right thing. Yeah. And then he comes back. But yeah, thank you, Peter.
Peter, don't go out that door. We're giving you your job back. We won't regret it, sir. Yeah. Oh
my God. Yes, sir. I got to get back to the painted on swimsuits to jerking off to those real quick.
So just get out of my office. He hands, he hands over his, his old timey newspaper hat that says
press in it and his, you know, big camo with a light bulb. He's like, sir, take this. I no
longer can use these. Yeah. I need your recorder and your football phone on my desk, Peter.
Oh, give me your al-gash white. Just arm yourself, Peter. All right. Last up before we get to FAQs,
we've got a quick take. This comes from take quick, take quick, take quick, take quick. It's
late and I'm, I got a science infection. Man, it's fucking killing me. I feel like I got punched
in the face. Yeah. I mean, I'm fighting this. I got bit by a dog two years ago and I got a
science infection today. Man, you've had a rough stretch. Really, really hard stretch for me.
Really bad times. Think about that. You want me to take this one? No, I got, I'll, I'll intro it,
then you can take it. So this comes from Steve Rosenblum, who is a provocateur,
the Chicago Tribune. If you know Steve Rosenblum, this is kind of what he does. He likes to just
figure out the most nonsensical take out there and throw it out there for the people on his Rosen
blog. And the one he had on Wednesday was still at his first starting. He, he, the premise of
his article was Rokwon Smith, who had his iPad stolen, his team issued iPad with all the plays
out of his car, along with like everything he had, like all these Georgia jerseys and a bunch of
shit. He was, it was embarrassing for the bears and it was his fault that he got robbed. Well,
I don't know if it was his fault that he got robbed, but it, it certainly doesn't speak well
to the fact that he wasn't able to apprehend the stealer, take him into his house, entertain him
until the police showed up. Like his Blake Bortles, a better linebacker than Rokwon Smith.
So even that would be bad because you're basically saying, uh, this guy got robbed
and wow, the bears really drafted a dummy. Okay. But then he throws in a little cherry on top and
he basically accused him of getting illicit benefits by saying bears first round pick Rokwon
Smith, who had items of great value stolen from his 2018 BMW X5 over the weekend. At this point,
you could ask how a student athlete that the NCAA is so proud of not paying is able to forward a
2018 Beamer, but that's not why you called. So just going to throw that on top too, that he somehow,
even though if you did two seconds of research, you would know that Rokwon Smith, when he, uh,
decided that he was going to go pro signed a deal with a dealership in Athens, which he has every
right to do. But Steve Rosenblum, he's on the case and by on the case, meaning he did no fact
checking whatsoever and wrote this hot. He was just like, uh, there's a young, uh, black athlete.
Was he selling drugs? How do you get this car? Yeah. What the hell happened here? Yeah, this
doesn't add up. Uh, I do respect the hustle to take though, to like just jump to that conclusion.
Just go dive in. He issued an apology the next day, which kind of takes a little away from, uh,
from the, from the quake of it. It goes, you know, I mean, aftershock. Yeah, but it, yeah,
but it hurts a little when you have to, you know, say sorry because I want you to stick by this
terrible take, but guess what the final ratio was? Oh geez. Okay. So ratio for people who aren't on
Twitter, when you get ratioed, it's when you tweet something terrible and the retweets and the likes
are so low and the responses are astronomically high. So just give me, um, give me the likes and
I'll fill in the rest. 42. 42 likes. I'm going with 23 retweets and I'm going with 220 replies.
Oh boy, are you wrong? 42 likes, seven retweets, 692 responses.
That take is so bad. 692 people had to tell him and only seven people retweeted it. And I'd imagine
the seven people that retweeted it were like his, his, they're all either their, their eggs or like
his mom. What a fucking, what a fucking take. Bill Walton never gets his car broken into because
he rides a bike. True. Does Roquan Smith hate the environment? Bill Walton got his bike stolen,
though. That's true. It's pickled you there. Oh man. Well, no, his bike got lost. Slash stolen.
Because he loved it so much, he was trying to fly his bike to Hawaii. Yeah, true. Because they don't
have bikes in Hawaii. True. All right, Hank, let's do FAQs, wrap up the Friday. All right,
FAQs for people that don't know are just questions AWLs have. Maybe they haven't listened the whole
time. So yeah, you were, you were two and a half years into this podcast. So if you're just listening
to it now, if you popped in a month, a month ago and you're like, Hey, why do these guys keep making
this joke? Well, here is a little backstory. Why did you name the original Larry Larry?
That's a good question. I think it came down to like Larry Goldie and some other, we just want
a stupid short name for it. Well, also, we just wanted a name after Marlon's man. No, that's
actually not right. Marlon's man definitely thinks we named him after. So tell Marlon's man. Yeah,
tell Marlon's man if you see him that we named our Goldfish after him. But no, it was really just,
I mean, we thought it'd be funny if we named it just a regular person's name. Like an old Jewish
guy named Larry is actually a Goldfish. The thing is like just pet names in general, if they're
named after humans are 10 times better. Yeah, my dog Leroy. Yeah, every needed dog like named
Bob. It's the best. Fucking awesome. Yeah. Just a Billy football update. How is our son doing?
So it's kind of sad. It's been a long time coming. We've tried, we've talked to Billy,
we've tried to convince him, talk him out of it, but really hard. He has made the decision on his
own that because of football, he wants to concentrate on football, focus on it. He doesn't want to be a
distraction to his team or his coach. So he is not going to be coming back this summer. I don't
know what he's going to be doing, but we're going to see Billy this summer. He'll make it a
appearance. I don't know if he'll come on the show. We're going to see Billy. He's still our
favorite son of the show. So we're going to have him back. No offense, Liam, we don't consider you
because you're still in house. Well, and also you're competent. Except for the time you got hit
by a car, which I mean, Steve Rosenblum is wondering, you probably were asking for that.
Billy is our favorite prodigal son of the show. And he's going to come back. We're going to talk
to him. We're going to nurture him. We're going to try to mentally manipulate him into joining
the show against his will. And if that doesn't work, then we wish him certainly the best. What's
the old saying? If you love something, let it go. And if it was meant to be, he'll come back.
So that's what it's going on. So with that said, we need a new intern. So intern season's open.
If you want to be an intern, apply at interns at barcelsports.com. We'll be going through
doing interviews next week. So we're not looking for someone as dumb as Billy.
Best way to get your foot in the door. Do not email and be like,
I want to be Billy football because that email will not get. Also just a tip.
Don't just repeat a lot of our jokes back to us. That will probably not get you hired. Be original.
Be yourself. Be yourself. Be yourself. Be your own special snowflake. Don't try to be original or
unique. Just be yourself. Be yourself and we will hire. We hired Billy honestly because
he was himself. He came in with six pages of a resume and he said he had printed it that morning
and he gave just the worst answers to every question, but they were all honest, kind of.
I think we said, what ideas do you have for the show? He's like, I'm not really a big idea.
No, no, no. He used Google and he was like, I used to like two summers ago.
Yeah. He also said that one of his ideas was he could play basketball on the team.
That's summer interns at barcelsports.com. I do want to summer interns at barcelsports.com.
It wouldn't be a bad way to get your foot in the door if you showed up tomorrow with
some horse poop and some rubber gloves and put horse poop into a capsule for me.
Don't do that. Don't do that. Okay. What else, Hank?
I should clarify that you will be disqualified. You did a terrible thing right there.
You will be disqualified from the intern hunt if you actually do that. Actually,
we're not going to be in the office tomorrow. Yes. So don't show up.
Actually, oh, well, the office burnt down. It's gone. We don't even live in New York anymore.
How many pairs of sunglasses has PFT gone through in his barstool career?
Shitload. Yeah. I've gone through a lot. What's a guesstimate?
I would say probably 50 or 60. I'm awful with sunglasses. I'd say more.
My rule of thumb is to never spend a lot of money on sunglasses, but I just got these ones
like two weeks ago. I was like, I'm going to keep good track of these because they're expensive
and I don't want to lose them. And then a week later, I lost them and I just happened to randomly
find them. So I go through a lot of sunglasses. How'd the Mark Cuban feud start? I remember hearing
you guys always poke when he was in the news or wrote a questionable tweet. Also, he's been on
other podcasts. How has he not gone on PMT? Well, so it's not really a feud. It's more kind of a
jovial back and forth. It started with, I did a video. I did what we call Mark Tank. So I pitched
Mark Cuban a bunch of my ideas. Was that what we called it? Mark Tank. Thanks. I think it was
Mark Tank. I pitched him. There's a video out there on YouTube. You can look it up. I pitched him
a ton of my ideas back in like 2014 or 15. And I got, I was on an email, like a forwarded email
where I saw his email was also on it. So I basically just email him randomly out of the blue every
few months and say, care to come on the podcast. And he always replies and he's like, no, but thanks.
But he does reply. But he does reply. And so it's not a feud. I think he'll come on the podcast
sometime. Fun little behind the music fact here is when you were going on Mark Tank,
this was like after we had met each other one time. Yes. You told me, you texted me. You were
like, Hey, I'm going, I'm going to meet with Mark Cuban and pitch him ideas. Do you have any ideas?
And so I sent you some. And so some of the ideas are protein little seeds from what would soon
germinate into part of my take. Protein was one of the ideas which I stand by. Protein is a hell
of an idea. Yes. Yes. It's called Mark Tank. Do you know what protein is Hank? Yes. I was there.
When is David Walls coming back on the show? Oh, whenever. Yeah. Whenever he, he gets wild hair.
Yeah. There's also a question asking about Saturday. Let's get weird. Why we did it and
why we don't do it anymore. We did it. So I used to have a blog. It's Saturday. Let's get weird.
I used to post it every Saturday. It was the weirdest videos I could find on the internet.
I'd post it on bar stool. And then we thought maybe it'd be a good idea to get our downloads
up to do a Saturday show. And then we realized that's a shitload more work of which we already
do a lot of and it didn't help the downloads. Yeah. Because nobody listens to podcasts on
Saturdays. Yeah. It was fun though. What do we do one? I think we did two. I think we did two of
one with David Walls and one with Portals. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Last one. Why don't you call
Lenny anymore for locker room talk? It's just kind of a sad deal with Lenny. Yeah. Yeah. Lenny,
it was it was very fun. It was very funny because Lenny, it was kind of a back and forth
and he'd seem like he was in on the joke somewhat because he would text me every now and then and
be like, you fuckers. Like he would actually say that you fuckers. Ha, ha, ha. And it was fun.
And then he came to the office and we're like, okay, that's probably not as fun. And we also
learned. It was a good run. We also learned that Lenny carries a piece on him at all times. But
we hope Lenny is doing well. We don't want him showing up to the office strapped. Yeah. We hope
he's doing well. Every now and then he'll DM me and ask if he can come on. He does do that.
Maybe we'll have him on some time. I think I think if we need financial advice, you know what?
Shit. Bitcoin 2 Gen, Bitcoin 3 Gen should be a Lenny Dijkstra cryptocurrency. Yeah. Yeah,
we'll get to it. I'm shocked that Lenny Dijkstra hasn't already introduced what was his name?
Dirt. Dirt coin. Yeah. He probably has. He should. Nails. Nails. Nails. Nails. Nails. Yeah,
that was Mark Lemke. I was thinking Mark Lemke. Nails coin. I'm in. Oh, last, last one. Who says
it's part of my take on my bar school sport? All right. That's our show. We will see everyone
on Monday. Love you guys. Love you guys. Love you guys. Love you guys. Love you guys. Don't
look to the office.
It's part of my take presented by Bar Stool Sports.