Pardon My Take - CFB With Cole Cubelic, Falcons And Kirk Cousins Silence Philadelphia, Max Gives An Eagles Report Card And Listener Takes

Episode Date: September 18, 2024

Kirk Cousins is back after he silences Philadelphia on Monday Night. Max was in attendance and has a report card from the Linc on this year’s Eagles team. Max and Memes try to negotiate a trade (00:...00:00-00:29:47). Bryce Young is out as QB1 in Carolina (00:29:47-00:36:35). CFB Wednesdays (00:36:35-00:44:56). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Ben Simmons being back to all star caliber based on his offseason workouts (00:44:56-01:03:30). SEC Network and former Auburn Tiger Cole Cubelic joins the show to talk College Football, is Georgia in trouble, can anyone match up with Texas and tons more (01:03:30-01:42:45). We finish with listener submitted pardon your takes (01:42:45-01:58:19).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. On today's pardon my take, we have our good friend Cole Kublick talking college football. College football Wednesdays, we're going to talk a little college ball. We also have a Monday night Football game to talk about. Philadelphia Eagles had quite the loss and we're going to hear from our producer Max who is there. The Falcons had quite the win. The Falcons did have quite the win. We are going to do Hot Seat Cool Throne. We're going to do Pardon Your Take. Listener submitted takes that we're going to judge and it's all brought to you by our friends at DraftKings. Can't make bets.
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Starting point is 00:02:42 The crown is yours. Today is Wednesday, September 18th. And the Philadelphia Eagles are... Max? I don't know. Oh, you don't know. The dreaded I don't know. Yeah, I don't know is a bad place to be. Yep, not a good place to be. I don't know. So you were at the game last night. Max went to, he got on a rare trip on a plane that did not involve a wedding. you went to Philadelphia Monday Night Football the eyes of America on Philadelphia Nick Foles retirement night Yeah, they also like didn't do anything there. Well, no, they had Jason Kelsey What it was Nick Foles retirement night, but Jason Kelsey was there Jason Kelsey's always there I'm gonna die that one Philadelphia super fan that has a Philly fanatic
Starting point is 00:03:23 I that with the news belly button I sat right next to that guy the entire game always there. That one Philadelphia super fan that has a Philly fanatic with a belly button. I sat right next to that guy the entire game. So give us the injury update. He he was very much struggling. OK. So torn ACL. I like there's no doubt in my mind that man has a torn ACL. Yeah. Wow. Pro football doc said confirm torn ACL. We also took the saddest picture together after the game Don't have it. I don't what do you mean phone? What's his name? What's his Instagram? That guy's gonna be a legend, right? Don't fee I'll get it. I'll get his exact. I'll get his exact Instagram handle so Well, two one five. All right, you know what let's do before we talk to you max about the Eagles
Starting point is 00:04:01 Let's just say anything Kirk cousins Before we talk to you max about the Eagles. Let's just say anything Kirk Cousins Was phenomenal to end the game. Yep. He it was like the beginning of the game It looked like Kirk Cousins was maybe his eyes were not he wasn't really trusting it He was a little slow on a couple of his reads, but then he locked in let him down the field Incredible drive the Falcons are fun Bijon Robinson is fucking awesome. Even in the first half when Kirk wasn't playing well, he moved so much faster than other running backs. It's crazy. B. John Robinson is awesome. Or as Troy Aikman calls him, BJ Robinson.
Starting point is 00:04:33 BJ Robinson. Which was an interesting just nickname that came up on the fly for him in the fourth quarter. But yeah, the Falcons, the running game looked pretty decent in the first half. They had to settle for field goals. Nick Sirianni did not settle for field goals in the first half. Yeah. That was a weird move. And it's funny because Big Cat, Max,
Starting point is 00:04:51 you don't have to listen to this part, but we have to figure out, because we need to walk a very fine tightrope here of criticizing Nick Sirianni for what he did in Monday Night Football without making it seem like it's the exact same criticisms of Dan Campbell the NFC Championship game because I think we reacted to that like trust in
Starting point is 00:05:09 Dan Campbell he's your guy well I mean it's simple that the I think the the simple way to do this is that the Lions locker room believes in Dan Campbell and I don't know if I could say the same for the that's good point that's a good point so it's totally two different it's not like one's the Italian Dan Campbell no it's the mentality of it it's not like one of the Italian Dan Campbell. No, it's the mentality of it. It's not Don Campbell. Yeah, right. See the But the Falcons are very fun and I actually have a question for you PFT I believe that we officially have to end the narrative that the NFC South is the worst division in football Because they have the 2-0 Saints the one- on one Falcons, the two and oh bucks.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Yes, the Panthers, we will talk about Bryce Young in a minute. But they're they're a good division now. So who gets to be the worst division in football, I have to to to nominees to nominees for you. Okay, let me think just off the top of my head, one you're not gonna expect. Hit me. The one you maybe expect is the AFC South. I think they definitely could be a nominee. The Texans are really good, but the Jaguars have struggled.
Starting point is 00:06:09 The Colts are 0 and 2 and the Titans are 0 and 2. So they have three 0 and 2 teams. The other one is the NFC East. Well, we're on top of the NFC East right now. But the other one might be the NFC East because I don't know. It's basically the Eagles are the swing vote. If the Eagles, all politics go through Pennsylvania this fall, if the Eagles are considered a good team, I do not think the NFC East is the worst division
Starting point is 00:06:34 in football. If the Eagles are a bad team, that might be the worst division in football. Well, let's get real. It's basically expected for the Eagles and the Cowboys to be Super Bowl contenders. Correct. And then if you get a bonus season out of Washington or out of New York Giants Then it's like wow the NFC beast is back I could say the Giants are probably not gonna give us that promise probably not that not so I think it's maybe AFC South right now
Starting point is 00:06:56 Uh-huh, but it could end up being the NFC East. It's a possibility I mean, I think what happened with the Eagles last night There's they could have won that game a million different ways So the one if they won if they had kicked that field goal in the first quarter, which, and it's not, it's not hindsight to say it. I tweeted out at the time that Nick Sirianni should be arrested.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Yeah, we were all texting, the three of us, we had a side chat. I think that just the take that Nick Sirianni should be arrested is applicable to all sorts of different things that he does. But for that field goal in the first half, you wanna take those points in the first, I think it was a scoreless game at the time field goal in the first half, you want to take those points in the first. I think it was a scoreless game at the time.
Starting point is 00:07:27 It was. Would like to add those points. And the Eagles, I think they played better than the Falcons for almost all the game. And then at the end, you could put the game away with Saquon just catching a pass. Or. You're going to miss one that they could have won on.
Starting point is 00:07:41 But continue. OK. Or. They're hanging on to the touchdown catch that got batted out of his hands. I think that's Devontae Smith, right? Not really. Matthew Judon. Sirianni called up a play to try and get them off sides right before the Saquon catch.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Did a hard count. Matthew Judon jumped. Jordan Milata just didn't react. And then they had to call the time. Jordan Milada didn't false start here's a point at the referees. He made me fall. I mean, the whole goal of that of that play is to do that. And you got that done. And your brain was just gone. Because all you have to do is make a little movement. You got the first down game over. Here's a here's a crazy idea. And I don't know if max has thought about this so you mentioned the seq one drop which was an egregious drop
Starting point is 00:08:28 It was a perfect play call like called up play perfect pass everything What about and this is might sound crazy? Running the football there. Hmm. You know what big cat in a situation like this It would be awesome if the Eagles had a quarterback that was outstanding at handoffs. Yeah. Because so the argument that people are making today is, well, the play was perfect and Saquon just needs to make the catch, which is true. But when you do a pass play, there's always a chance that a guy might not catch the ball, therefore stopping the clock. When you do a run play, yes, I guess you could fumble, but you're doing a run play that then takes another 40 seconds off the clock. And I'll even get crazy here. Ready? Ready for this, Max? I think you run it twice and you get a first down
Starting point is 00:09:15 because you're the Philadelphia Eagles and no one can stop when you run it with your biggest offensive line in football. Thoughts? Going forward on, not going forward on fourth down is worse than the pass play. But running it twice is the move. Yes, but if you weren't going to run it twice, everyone keeps getting, being mad about the pass play. You draw it up perfectly. The fact that there's always a chance of Saquon dropping that ball in that situation is I would argue just as likely
Starting point is 00:09:51 A pitch play He should he should right here's a couple things max no Saquon should have talked the ball you're right But to say that it's just as likely it close to say it's just as likely as him fumbling is But to say that it's just as likely to say it's just as likely as him fumbling is egregious in sex a psychotic thing to say also I think I think say quan bar weight I didn't stride learn ball around learn ball. I don't ball learn ball I think say quan Barkley has a running back learn ball Hank I think say quan Barkley has the highest drop person he does of any running back 16 drops since 2021 learn ball 16 drops since 2021 max I don't give a fuck you have to catch that
Starting point is 00:10:26 You have to run that ball. No Yeah, I have a question for you. How long did it if they run that football don't and kick the field goal How much time is left on the clock? No How much time is left on the minute but hold on take for them to score hold on hold on We talk about your defense second. I'm not saying run it once I'm saying run it twice. That's what I'm saying The fourth down is worse is worse than that play guess what if you run it twice and you don't get the first down Not only has more time gone off, but that's what the Falcons
Starting point is 00:10:57 I told you Falcons will will very much likely play for a field goal instead of a touchdown because that's what teams mostly do and You would have gone to overtime if of a touchdown because that's what teams mostly do and you would have gone to overtime if you don't. But that's high. And you would. What do you mean it's hindsight? I said in the time when it was happening, I was like, why aren't you running it? Yes. But, but that that's obvious to say when you drop the max max max max or before the play even happened, I said I was sitting on my couch being like why are they not running this ball? Max take 40 seconds off the clock everyone's thinking that and it took him a minute to get down the field max You need to a that's what I'm I have to be able to think about two things at the same time
Starting point is 00:11:36 I'm forced down two things at the same time one is yes, the place should have worked. It was right Wait, wait, you have to let me say the second thing you have to think about You're thinking really well about that one. You want to first down. Yeah, you want to first the other side is that running the football eliminates the possibility of a turnover on downs at that exact point. You're not going to fumble the ball. And it's a perfectly normal sane thing that most coaches would do in that situation. 40
Starting point is 00:12:01 seconds go off the clock. It took a minute. It doesn't matter. Because that's a totally different pressure situation when you have one minute and one minute and 40 seconds to start your offense. You basically are saying when you have one minute, you cannot, you have to have perfect plays all the way down the field. And they did. I understand Max. I'm not playing the results. I'm playing just the fact that the, in the situation where you have one minute and 40 seconds left, third and three on the five yard line, you run that ball a hundred times out of a hundred to take 40 seconds off the clock. Yes. It's very easy to say that now. I said it before. I said it before.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Then what happened if Saquon catches that ball, which there's a 95% chance. What's his drop right pick yet? It's, he's dropped the most passes, 60% not the same, but like it's not a hundred drops aren't the same. And you know that that's true in that situation. It was a hard catch, but he's in no people are calling him a loser. It was a five yard pass. He's never wanted the link. People were calling him a loser player. But Max player max That was you have to think about that whenever you call a pass plays even if it's a perfectly execute Down the field going through the middle of the field is way different than a five-yard screen But a pass no that but a pass like could always be an incompletion and a run play could always be a fumble
Starting point is 00:13:19 But the chance of being a fumble or so much lower drop in that situation is low as fuck but not as low as a fumble Yes, not that not that different. I'm on the game Max. Come on right there. Come on Max No, what happened now? You're the Philadelphia Eagles You don't know what yards on two runs very easy to say without actually seeing it. I've seen it I've seen them get three yards on two very easy to say without actually see no no no You're I think they were both averaging like four yards runs. Very easy to say without actually seeing. No, no, no. No. I think they were both averaging like four yards a carry. You're pretending like we're playing hindsight, but in the moment we were, we were thinking
Starting point is 00:13:51 that no, in the moment it was a surprising play call when he threw the ball. Everybody was surprised by it. Yes. But then so that doesn't mean that time that you want, you've got the look that you want to run the ball. Also after the game, Nick Siriano said if you're going to do it twice, I agree. Nick Siriano, Ford on Ford. Big cat. Let look that you want. Just run the ball to us. Also, after the game, Nick Sirianni said. Twice, yes. If you're going to do it twice, I agree. Nick Sirianni. Should have gone for it on fourth down.
Starting point is 00:14:08 Big Cat, let me ask you this. Do you think that it's throwing your quarterback under the bus after the game, if you're the head coach of a team that does something exactly like this? I'm not saying it's the Eagles, but if you're that head coach and you say there was a mechanism on the third and three pass play where if it's not wide open, Jalen Hurts can sit down and take a sack. Oh. Is that shirking responsibility for calling the pass play where if it's not wide open, Jalen Hurts can sit down and take a sack. Oh, is that is that shirking responsibility for a call? That's a weird thing to say because it was wide open, because it's wide open.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Yeah. So if it wasn't wide open, then you could be like, we talked about this and if it's not open, take a sack. But he brought this up for no seeming reason aside just to get the heat off of him after. No, I mean, I think that that makes sense. What he said, Nick, that that makes sense. What do you, what do you say? Nick's that's not putting blame on anybody else. That's just, can I ask you a question, Max? What's, what's the issue with the Eagles? Cause this looked like they're just, this
Starting point is 00:14:55 looked like everyone going into the season was like, is it going to be the end of the season? The Eagles last year, this looked very similar to the Cardinals game. This looks similar to the Seahawks game where the Eagles felt like the better team and something they just didn't win. Correct. I agree. So what what's the issue? They are defensive line. You said? Defensive line is horrible.
Starting point is 00:15:20 What about offense? The offense, the offense is hat is a mix of bad Bad coaching and bad quarterback play and oh, I'd say bad quarterback play, huh? Sometimes I have everything written down. Okay. All right. Nice. Good. Is this was this on your flight? You took notes. Yes while you're looking these notes of Hank had a question Sam's raised Do you think it was a little early for the booze after the after the miss fourth down in the first quarter Good question. Oh, no, I'm too early for booze on Jason Kelsey night never too early for this five o'clock somewhere Okay, that was a stupid question um okay ready. Yeah, you think you're I mean it's
Starting point is 00:15:58 Just gonna say oh like that's that's the way it is in Philadelphia you surprised that there's booing like all right cool It was early. I just thought it was oh yeah, I mean it's every fuck. That's that's fucking life. way it is in Philadelphia. You're surprised that there's booing? Like, all right, cool. It was early, I just thought it was early. Yeah, I mean, that's every fucking, that's fucking life. That's life in Philadelphia. Get used to it. Sounds fun. Oh, shocking, oh, let's have this discussion
Starting point is 00:16:14 on a fucking national, is Philadelphia wrong for booing? On a national podcast? Coming up next on ESPN, Philadelphia boos early in the game? Wow, I don't think that's the right fan base. All right. Good job, Hank. Nice job, buddy. Good job, buddy. Okay. Uh, Max took notes. Max, before you tell us the notes about the game, do you think- It's not about the game. It's about the Eagles as a whole. Okay. Eagles as a whole. Do you think there was anything said on this podcast on Sunday that people could maybe say was a jinx?
Starting point is 00:16:48 Yeah, the number 20 saying winner, winner. Yeah, because here's a quote from Max at the end of the podcast. I'll tell you right now. Oh, I'm a winner. I don't really know what to do because I'm just a winner. I'm just a winner. I'm specifically just a winner. Titletown.
Starting point is 00:17:03 He's a one man title town. We were talking about the lottery ball Pft you wouldn't fucking know well You also talked a lot of shit about a quarterback handing the ball off and guess what you probably should have taken some notes I did take notes. Okay here. Let's hear the notes Eagles are the Eagles good or are the Eagles bad? What you wrote like a there's a title. No, it's just I went through each position. It sounds like a book. Yeah Okay, bye bye Max Delinty quarterback sometimes good lots of sometimes bad, but we'll still defend forever because that's my life
Starting point is 00:17:34 Max what is lots of sometimes bad? I so I was in the middle of saying lots of times bad sometimes bad I split the difference and said lots of sometimes back We need to get a graphic of this memes But it needs to be in crayon Like just maxil today's breakdown of the Eagles in crayon. Yes Okay running back Bad drop still very good. Okay, that's fair wide receiver room good, but without AJ bad But you got Johnson stinks. Thank you
Starting point is 00:18:04 Ever gets the second most targets on the team again, I'm going to memes myself Online good but bad for not reacting to judon that pissed me off. Okay D line mega bad Linebackers probably bad, but maybe good Secondary better but still bad sometimes. What about CJ Gardner? He's the best troll of all time. All he does is get people to fight him. The coverage against Darnell Mooney on that deep ball was horrendous.
Starting point is 00:18:39 And then he absolutely stuck Bijon on fourth down to get the turnover on down. That was a great tackle The perfect example of sometimes good sometimes bad. I mean the move of ripping somebody's mouthpiece I also like mask is awesome. Yeah, okay good. I thought no no no he's a troll. That's what he does yeah And then finally coaching super bad super bad, okay, so wait that better not be Dom in there No, he doesn't count okay Okay. Okay, but your defense coordinator So I have another take I was pissed off online. Oh, tell us Well people like there was an interview that's Sirianni. Oh, yeah people were coming after Dom after Dom don't come out
Starting point is 00:19:17 Why were they coming after because they say that he just wants a spotlight and it's just we we in this room know for a Fact that that's not how many times we tried to get him on this Yeah, and he says no because he doesn't want the spotlight Yeah, he's just doing his job if he was if he wanted the spotlight he would he would come on this show Yeah And we were free will eventually we were furious when we found out about big Dom last year because we were mad that you didn't Tell that we didn't know about him already. Yeah, that's it's just the media makes it makes him Yeah, we support big Dom in all of this. Yes. I was mad
Starting point is 00:19:44 It's just the media makes it makes him. Yeah, we support big dumb in all of this. Yes. I was mad Vigfangio overall thoughts on team talk to me about Vic Fangio real quick though the prevent defense I I I think we all agree that like in that situation When you just give up 20 yards to the middle of the field, it's the most let just play normal You just need a guy like a son reddick to go get a sack Bryce Huff horrible Like horrendously bad. Like he shouldn't be in the league. He's looking at memes right now. He's staring memes down. Let's do a handshake. Like Bryce Huff for Hassan Radek right now. And a first rounder. No. And a first rounder. Price went up. Price. Oh, he got you. You don't even have a guy this guy playing. It doesn't matter price went up
Starting point is 00:20:25 No, I think a pass rusher. We have one you need a pass rusher We do when we have and we have your path you have you have our ass rusher We have your but memes needs a pass rusher and he has a pass rusher Yeah, I have one but we'll pay him but you'll be paying him less than you'll have to then you're gonna have to pay his I'm willing to pay his son Reddick more and you can get the price battle of the have to then you're gonna have to pay us on I'm willing to pay his son Rettick more and you can get Deals get done you have to eat the you have to eat Bryce Huff's contract Oh on air. Well, yes, we will pay but also on air Yeah, you'll pay us on Rettick you take Bryce. Oh, no, so we weren't gonna pay pay Bryce Huff So you have to eat no, but that's cuz you wanted to pay us on Rettick instead and you're not but you're not paying us
Starting point is 00:21:04 On Rettick. We'll settle for a second round pick So you have to eat nobody that's because you wanted to pay us on redic instead and you're not but you're not paying us on Redic we'll settle for a second round pick Third you eat the contract. I'll give you third and we get the third the third that you that you gave us you get back And we get Dallas got her no I Would I'm access I would watch a show It's just fans of NFL teams doing deals. Yeah in the offseason dude I did last offseason. I traded Justin Fields to the Patriots for a sec second rounder with Dave fleece would have been incredible.
Starting point is 00:21:29 Great. Are you ready for overall team? Yeah. I revised the overall team maybe 18 times before I before I came to a final. This is like a Matting rating number. No, it's just a put on the balls scale. No. Okay. It has, this is it's perfect. I think it's perfect. Not terrible. Not great. A possibility to still be good, but most likely average. Oh yeah. What's average to you though? It's a lot of words fighting like wild card. Yeah. Seventh seed. Yeah. Six seed. That's most likely that's what that because I went through because I was thinking like this team is bad. This team is bad. And then I went through each position group and the coaching you have a lot of talent and there's still a lot of
Starting point is 00:22:16 good. I think I think the bad, but the bad are just a big deal. I think it's a very big gift. That offense. What? Missing AJ Brown. Oh yeah, big time. Goes from wide receiver room good to wide receiver room, I may have to memes myself. Yeah, and it's also like this is what you guys have done is you've paid the quarterback a lot of money. They have to score more than seven points in the first half. Like your defense is going to be a little bit, it has taken a step back
Starting point is 00:22:39 because you've invested in the offense. To be fair, it should have been, if coaching wasn't super bad, it would be 10. Yeah, that's true. And now welcome to the one in one club. Yeah. Everyone's one on one. Yeah. Yeah. Good job. Except for Shane. Shane's doing it. So, um, yeah, Max, I think that's a pretty fair assessment to say that you're not a good team right now, but you could be a good team. Yeah. Yeah. I'm, I'm leaving the possibility open to be good, but most likely average. And how was it walking out of that stadium?
Starting point is 00:23:05 Were you chewing on your shirt, anything? I was, no. I was really mad. Did you boo? And I'll tell you one thing, I love AWLs, they're the best. Taking pictures after a- Part of the job. Part of the job.
Starting point is 00:23:20 Might be like the worst thing ever. Part of the job. I did it, but I can't say that I looked happy in all of the pictures. That's fair, that's fair. You can just tweet them atweet them at us. How many pictures me and big cat have taken after losses. Yeah. But that was the first time that I've like most of the time. Like I'm not in the stadium to do that. That's true. Yeah. Most of the time I'm here and I just have to like do this right after. But that was that was a tough situation to just be like yes I will take this picture with you but I but I'm I'm not I'm not I'm
Starting point is 00:23:49 not going to be like a happy-go-lucky guy you you for sure thought they were gonna win that game at the end oh yeah they there was no yeah there's no chance there's no thought they were gonna win that game. Who? Everybody on television. Yeah. Everybody on the... Everybody announcing the game. Yeah. Everybody that was coming through my TV speakers.
Starting point is 00:24:10 Listen, I like Jason Kelsey. I like him a lot. Yeah, Max, you missed this part. It was a little bit much having him in the booth for like a quarter and a half openly rooting for the Eagles. I agree with that. On ESPN's top five game. Yeah, I feel bad for Falcons fans.
Starting point is 00:24:22 I feel bad, very bad for Falcons fans because because they were, you got to just be like, put in a tiny little cage and beaten over the head with a stick by ESPN in Philadelphia. You didn't sign up for that. You signed up to watch a Monday Night Football game, to have Troy and Joe call it pretty fair. But instead, the whole evening seemed to turn into a Philadelphia suckfest.
Starting point is 00:24:42 And I get it. You're in Philly. It's Monday night football. It's a big deal. You're going to give credit to the fans, but the real Eagles fans and max, I consider you to be a real true Eagles fan. You guys are just like scumbaggy enough where it's enjoyable, but you also want your opponents to have like a little bit of fear in their heart of like, Oh, in Philadelphia they're liable to do some crazy shit to me it seemed like a Disney vacation of the Philadelphia fan base last night and I think that you guys have more edge to you than that I didn't I didn't need
Starting point is 00:25:15 someone puking on a kid yeah exactly we need some of that some of that real dirt bag shit going on but it was they were beating you over the head with Philadelphia last night during the game it was was like, uh, I likened it to the Pacers Nick series when they had Stephen A Smith doing like pump up speech speeches. If you're a Pacers fan, you're watching that. You're like, wait, I want to just watch my team play. Yeah. If you're a Falcons fan last night, you're like, this is crazy.
Starting point is 00:25:38 I, why, why, why do I have to do this? Uh, but I do like Jason Kelsey. I just, yeah, he, it wasn't his fault. It didn't help that the com every commercial break was also then just like for Jason Kelsey. Yeah, right. Like if ESPN setting up a desk inside or right outside like Xfinity live or wherever that place is in Philly, they should be like a little bit afraid that their entire set is going to get vandalized and their microphones get stolen. Instead it was just like, Hey, we're here for my night countdown now watch as Jason Kelsey crowd surf sponsored by Old Spice yeah uh no I agree if I were
Starting point is 00:26:12 like I don't like I don't like when Akeman calls Cowboys games and he's not he's pretty good but like still in the back of my head I'm like this fucking guy yeah he's rooting for the Cowboys yeah for the record like I like Jason Kelsey a lot. I'm right with that date. Jason Kelsey's awesome. Yeah, I mean, I love Jason Kelsey with all my life. Also- The tush push worked. Also shout out Campbell's for taking me to the game. That was very nice of them.
Starting point is 00:26:32 Oh, hell yeah. Hell yes. It was a great event. Called the Hotline. So if you're a Falcons fan, this felt like it was a pretty big moment for the franchise. Oh, it changed your whole season. This is, it may have changed your entire perspective on football. Yeah. Because this is, it was the reverse Falcons. The Eagles turned into the Falcons. The Falcons had a 0.7% chance of winning with one 56 left in the fourth quarter.
Starting point is 00:26:56 And they did it. That is the seventh most improbable win in the next gen stats era. Yeah. And you got the Chiefs coming on Sunday. So if you'd started owing two, that would have been okay. Now you got to beat the chiefs to not start owing three. No, that was a, that was a season changing drive by Kirk cousins and the Falcons are like, it's, it's crazy how much more fun it is when Bijon is getting used a lot. Like they are, cause remember the last couple of years with Desmond Ritter and it was just a chore to watch Falcons games. Now watching Falcons on Monday night football is like this team is fun. Yeah. It's fun to watch. And I think Kirk, again, week one was
Starting point is 00:27:36 tough for him against the Steelers. The start of this game, it felt like you were the same thing. We saw week one where it's like, he's just almost like a quarter second too slow on what he's looking at. But that last drive was just money and they were running the two minute offense and he just Kirk Cousins prime time, prime time Kirk Cousins, which always says the killer killed you, Max. Max, you want to give us a little credit for having a side text chain so we didn't involve you? That wasn't a full side text chain. It was me PFT and Hank. Well there was That was going to the full group as well Oh, yeah We did have a moment where we were like this games not over and because Max was living in real life
Starting point is 00:28:15 He was like fuck you guys because we hadn't seen the interception yet And he tried to blame us for like trolling him when we literally you were at the game The delay is think about that. Yeah, that was so mad at us. We troll about a lot of stuff and it is I understand why you would think that that's a boy who cried wolf move. We would do something like I was convinced that the Eagles were going to get a field goal.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Yeah, like I had two timeouts. Jake Elliott's a really good kicker. I was convinced. And when we texted like this game's not over, almost like 10 seconds later, because that's how long the delay is the interception happened. I, my brain is so broken that Dumpy was sitting next to me and there was, I think it was like in the first quarter and he was like, fuck, I just got an alert for Darnell Mooney touchdown. And I, and I believe like I thought it, you're watching the game.
Starting point is 00:29:01 No, I know I was like, but I'm like so used to like living in that fear of there's like I'm gonna get spoiled. I was like fuck like it took me a quick second to realize that it was Joe the games Okay, so that was great Monday night Yeah I was a great game fun to watch not for all of us but fun for us to watch and I'm excited for the to watch Fuck I think the NFC South like I said is you can no longer say the NFC South is the worst division in football They're very good. They've gotten out of that and now we have to go play the other two teams like I Think we'll probably end up two and two after the next two weeks, but like we have the Saints and then the Bucs I
Starting point is 00:29:40 Missed so much sitting next to you for that game. That was that was the only thing that I regret It would have been great to I filmed like all of my reaction. Oh, can we see one? there I'll show it to you. Okay, I mean they'll get they'll get it's going to get posted. I have to like make a video Oh, okay. All right, you got the whole video. All right, we'll put up the whole video. Yeah, you have the Saints at Saints at box Whoo, it sucks that you lost that that that week one home game like you Do you give that up? I know that's bullshit Brazil. I mean that was that was bullshit So speaking the NFC South we had the news that Annie Dalton is now the quarterback of the Carolina Panthers
Starting point is 00:30:21 And I feel like it is officially over for Bryce Young. Not really a hot take, but we were talking about it on Sunday when you threw that out there. I was like, the only problem is if you go to Andy Dalton, I don't know if you can ever go back unless there's an injury because Andy Dalton is going to be better than Bryce Young. Yeah. There's a possibility that you go back. You might, if you're Dave Canales, you might be spinning this to Tepper and saying, he needs to learn more. He's not ready. He's shellcked which I that's a fair argument to make like he's gotten hit a ton some of which are his fault but he doesn't look comfortable he doesn't look like he has fun and You're not gonna get any better in this environment
Starting point is 00:30:55 So yes bench him and then maybe maybe put him in later on in the season after you know The season's already fully out of hand. Yeah, just see what you have I don't know I don't know if you can trade the guy given what his contract's gonna be in the next couple years. I kinda want the Bears to trade for him with like a seventh round pick just to complete the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:31:12 And I know obviously the Bears have their own issues that they're dealing with right now, but as it stands right now, the trade is Bryce Young who got benched 18 games into his career. And then the Panthers gave the Bears. DJ Moore, Darnell Wright, Tyreek Stevenson, Caleb Williams, Tori Taylor and we still have a second round pick next year. It would be funny just so that the after everything is settled and done graphic says the
Starting point is 00:31:37 Bears get everything and then the Panthers get a seventh round pick. Yeah, it's a pretty shocking trade. Yeah. I mean it's still Parts of the trade have to work out for the Bears to be like the worst trade of all time But yeah, there's the potential that it could be the worst trade of all It doesn't look good for the Panthers and I went back and I read some articles about how they did the evaluation between CJ Stroud and Bryce Young before the draft they went out to dinner with both these guys When they went out with Bryce, they were impressed by his order,
Starting point is 00:32:07 which was scallops and a salad, which is, again, if me or Big Cat was in that room and we see the quarterback ordering scallops and a salad. Check, please. Off the big board. I've seen all of that. I don't even have to have dinner with a guy. Just wanna see what he orders for food. And then-
Starting point is 00:32:22 Ooh, they should start doing that. Yeah. At the combine, they should- Simulate the dinner. Yeah, they just hand you a that. Yeah. At the combine, they should like simulate dinner. Yeah. They just hand you a menu. Yeah. She's like, what do you want? What are you getting? I can, you can learn a lot about a guy like that. What does Caleb Williams eat? Uh, he, he eats healthy. He's really healthy. Justin Fields doesn't eat meat. I don't know what your point. The point is there. I'm just trying to change the topic as fast as possible What were you saying about bryce young? I was saying about bryce young so they evaluate him by taking dinner obviously and then between him and CJ
Starting point is 00:32:52 Stroud do you remember when Schefter was on our podcast and he talked about the process with with Stroud and the Panthers and all that Yeah, apparently Mrs. Tepper loved CJ Stroud. Oh no. Like loved him. He calls her Mama Tepp. Oh no, so that's why David Tepper would do it. And then David Tepper is like, wait, I could have CJ Stroud built like a statue,
Starting point is 00:33:17 seems real close with Mama Tepp or the short guy. That's just a real good friend. He's got a great personality. Damn. And so he decided to go with with Bryce over that. I'm not I'm not saying but I am saying no, you're not saying that David Tepper made a decision solely on which one is less likely to fuck my wife. I did not say that. But people could say that people could read into that.
Starting point is 00:33:40 Correct. I feel bad for Bryce Young. I thought Bryce Young I I mean it unfortunately probably Puts the limit on height now. He's officially the floor. Yeah, we've reached it. We've reached it We pushed it with you know, Russell Wilson was the first one and then Kyler Murray I think Bryce Young is now the floor of how short you can be as a quarterback. I Always liked him at Alabama and it just didn't work out. That's the crazy thing is he was really, really good at Alabama. Yeah. Like he made some incredible throws. Yeah. And 2022 Auburn game, I want to say the iron bowl. I believe
Starting point is 00:34:15 they won that game. Yeah. He did it basically by himself. He never really figured out that you can't run away from a defensive end from a standstill and get away from in the NFL. Yeah. It's brutal. Yeah, I want to see there'll be another team though. I don't think that he's played his last game. Yeah, what's our Yeah, yeah. He was 2433 touchdowns. Oh, wait, no, was it that one? Or was it the one with any trouble in this game? Maybe it was 2021. Either way. Yeah, I like to admit I liked him it. Yeah, uh, yeah, this is the one,
Starting point is 00:34:46 this is the game where they came back and they want an OT. Yeah. He was awesome in that game and he made all these big throws in like big time moments. And he, you know, yeah, it sucks for Bryce Young. So if you're six, three, two 25 former first round pick, you will have at least one, possibly, probably two other teams that would take a chance and be like, I can fix this guy. Yeah. But with Bryce Young, since he doesn't look like any other quarterback, I don't know how many other teams are going to be like, have that same mentality. Like we can work with him.
Starting point is 00:35:17 He had a bad set up in Carolina. I think that he'll probably get a chance somewhere else. If it doesn't work out in Carol, there'll be one team that picks them up. They ha I mean, yeah, probably. Yeah, I don't know. They can carry three quarterbacks now. So that helps. Yeah. I don't think that a team is going to sign Bryce Young as their plan for next season. I guess the only thing you could say in, not defense, but like good job Panthers is if you're Dave Canales in that front office like It makes sense if you're gonna just cut ties just do it now
Starting point is 00:35:49 It's kind of like the Josh Rosen like just be like hey, we made a mistake. We got to move on Yeah, don't let the mistake Completely derail the next five years where you keep trying this Yeah, it's actually good to know that he's not the guy right and to make a decision based on that right? But now we get Andy Dalton now we get Right. But now we get Andy Dalton. Now we get any Dalton. Now we get Andy Dalton. Now I like Andy Dalton, but he's an older guy. There is a possibility he gets banged up. Yeah. And then you go back to Bryce. Who's the other, uh, Panthers depth, Derek Anderson.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Yeah. Let's see who's, who else is the quarterbacks? Oh, they don't, they might not have a third quarterback Oh, no, they got to get a cook. Oh wait Who is it? They don't have one Jack plumber playing the preseason. Oh, okay. Okay That could be good Louisville quarterback. Yeah Yeah, too bad for for Bryce Young. I mean it's Alabama quarterbacks are in a tough spot right now.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Yeah. And right now, if you're looking ahead to the next draft, who would be QB one? Would it be Shador? Probably Carson back. Maybe Carson back. Yeah, I would say. Yeah, we just talked a little college football. Georgia struggled. We're gonna talk more with Cole Kublick. Big takeaways were college football, Georgia struggled. We're going to talk more with Cole Kublick. Big takeaways were Georgia struggled, but they do this once a year with some team. We're going to talk when Cole explains it more, but they do it once a year with like a Kentucky or Missouri arch manning is super fast. Very fast. I don't think that's what I read. Yeah. I don't think when your job is in jeopardy, but uh, I mean, Quinn, you're just playing well when he got hurt. Yeah. But the fans no, but the fans don't want a champion
Starting point is 00:37:27 Yeah, they want a championship I think Quinn yours is the better quarterback and the fans understand that but they're living like the most arrogant life right now Because they're like fucking we got two great quarterbacks on our team Yeah, and then the state of Florida football is a mess outside of Miami. Well, actually no UCF and USF are good It's just Florida and Florida State or dumpster fire Yeah, Florida is they're really bad. Florida is awful that game stunk Florida State also I won three now since the guy refused to eat dog poop. Yep, and LSU struggled to else you should not have won that game
Starting point is 00:37:58 No, they got a couple very very questionable calls go their way and South Carolina's quarterback got hurt halfway through the game Which I said, I mean listen, I went to the Wisconsin Alabama game Find me a team that can beat Alabama with their backup quarterback. So it's good point. It's you can't do it You can't it's impossible. Is that does that maybe? Cover up the fact we were never gonna win that game first quarter say who's to say that first order dude Listen Alabama fans were very nice Their life of just going from town to town and just watching their team beat the fuck out of everyone is incredible I was sitting next to an Alabama fan at the game and
Starting point is 00:38:34 the Badgers went up three nothing and then Jalen Milro air mailed a third down pass and they missed a field goal and He turned to me and was just like and they missed a field goal. And he turned to me and was just like, okay, like it's fine. And I just knew right then, it's like, there was just not even, not like a shit or fuck, can't believe you missed that. He was just like, all right.
Starting point is 00:38:55 And then it was blank 21-3. It really is the best way to see the country, isn't it? Yeah. Just traveling from town to town, being declared a winner in that town and then leaving. They're modern day Vikings. It's pretty fun It's fucking incredible for them. So yeah, I uh, yeah, it was it was not fun to watch that game on Saturday I knew that was gonna have a bad weekend. Yeah, there's a blowout. Yeah with Georgia and
Starting point is 00:39:17 In the game at Kentucky Mark Stoops, you know in the ball away at the end of the game. I like Mark Stoops I think he's a great defensive coach. He got very conservative with it. Mark Stoops, probably if somebody had explained to him the moment, the ramifications of kicking the ball away, probably I like to think he wouldn't have done it. You're, you're a 21 point underdog. Yeah. House money. Act like it. Yeah. Fucking do some crazy ass shit. and their kickers awesome. Yeah, it was crazy It was a dozen nuts. He's it feels like Kentucky football is kind of slipping a little under mark soups They had a really good run and now it's starting to slip away from when he was the coach at a and M for like six hours
Starting point is 00:39:56 Yeah, that's right. It's kind of right So yeah, how many yards would they have needed like 15 20 yards to kick a field goal in that moment? Yeah, something like that and And they just, they just so stupid. Yeah. So stupid. If I was a Kentucky fan, I'd be upset because you'd Mark Stoops took away what could be a core memory of yours. Yeah. For the rest of your life. Remember that time we beat Georgia? Yeah, it would have been incredible. And also, look, I think Georgia is still very good. But I don't think that Georgia is the Georgia of old. No, I think that they're, they've got some weaknesses. And it's weird that they have guys that just keep getting arrested for speeding offenses. They just love to drive
Starting point is 00:40:34 really fast. Yeah, really, really fast. We have a weird one coming up on Saturday, as you guys see. So the camera rising is back who I love cam rising even though he gets hurt whenever I bet him but camera rising it that Utah's going to Oklahoma State and Alan Bowman and cam rising combined age is 49 years old That's crazy. I think I think the combined age of Cale Williams for then Anthony Richardson is 44. It was less. Yeah Yeah, it's nuts. That is pretty, that's pretty crazy. Big 12 was going to be a lot. The TCU UCF game was incredible. Like that was, I loved the big 12 football. They've, they've somehow with all the conference,
Starting point is 00:41:12 realignment, they lose Texas in Oklahoma. They add some other schools. The big 12 was still like the chaos league. That's just so fun to watch. I think they, they, if anything increased what their identity used to be. Yeah. Because in the big turned it up. Yeah. And the big 12, you'd have the same chaos, like you said, but you'd also have, you'd have the really good teams at the top that would take away from the chaos because you, the chaos would get swept under the rug to be like, yeah, these teams are all beating each other up, but Oklahoma is looking like they're going to be for real again this year. Yeah. Now we just get to concentrate on the
Starting point is 00:41:42 Oklahoma States of the world. Yes. It's very, very fun. I'm excited. This weekend is going to be fun. We're going to figure out if Michigan is really, really bad and if USC is for real, that's a big one. And then Tennessee going to Oklahoma is going to be awesome. Yeah. Oklahoma is going to be pumped to play that first SEC game. Tennessee is a wag. Them going for an onsite kick up 30 on Kent State how I was having this debate today It's ever happened to Kent State Kent State Do you think I was fun for Tennessee players? I think it would be the best time ever Yeah, it was very fun because it's not like they just kept the guys in and ran the score up They had third stringers beating the shit out of Kent State and I think Kent State no offense to Kent State
Starting point is 00:42:22 I love Max and I think Kent State is so bad, I don't think they could even injure Tennessee. Right. So it's almost like- But you could get injured if you were on Kent State. Right, but I'm saying going into that game, Tennessee basically was like, we get to play a game where we score so many points and there's just really no,
Starting point is 00:42:39 there's no chance they could injure us. Yeah, it's like the mascots playing against the kids. I can stiff arm whoever I want. And shout out to Lito, our guy Jason Kandel, goes goes in Mississippi State whoops that ass. So what was the game? I forget which one it was but there's one of these by game situations where a team has been paid money not to play the by game no, so You might be referring to Wake Forest Basically, they got killed by Ole Miss and then after the game the coach told Lane Kiffin we're not coming next year
Starting point is 00:43:05 Cancel it so they're gonna forfeit that money. Yeah, they're like we're just we don't want to do this again smart, which Anyone Wisconsin doesn't want to go to Tuscaloosa next year. I'm cool with that, too Yeah, you can you can always just not play good opponents. Yeah, and then Hank your Apple Cup. Yeah tough There it is. That was Hank's apple your apple cup. Yeah, tough. There it is. That was Hank's apple. We already did the breakdown tank on the backyard bra was also awesome. Pit pit is just there. The cardiac kids this year, they did it to Cincinnati. They did it to West Virginia. They just somehow they were down 10 with like eight minutes left, came back and won that game. That was awesome. I love the backyard bra so much. So, so much in
Starting point is 00:43:42 Oregon's back. Yeah, we're getting they fixed some stuff on their offensive line and you could see it like they were just bullying them. They looked like not a good football team in the first two weeks. Yeah. And then in this game, I think a lot of people expected that trend to continue because it's you know, much like the Apple Cup rival game Civil War. They always play it tough. And then Oregon was just like, No, fuck it. We're supposed to be Oregon. I'm very happy for Washington State. That's awesome that you get to do that to win that game. Cause you know,
Starting point is 00:44:09 people like Hank, they're all like, they're going to the big conference. Yeah. They're waving bye to us. It's like you're driving away down the road and you're like flipping them off out the side of your window and then you just run into a mountain. Yeah. My guy, Andre dollar. It's great. It's great. Should we do hot seat, cool throne? Then cold cubic? Talk some more college football. Hot sea cool thrown is brought to you by our friends at Coors Light. Have the fun of watching college football is predicting which rivals will
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Starting point is 00:45:32 Because you wouldn't make it the Falcons if they won. So the Rams, I think what you're saying is it's the Rams and if the Falcons lose, you'll add the Falcons. Right. And they didn't. Why would you? You wouldn't have a pink team. That's one and one.
Starting point is 00:45:43 So if the Los Angeles Rams win, win this. They're one and one. I have some say if that's one and one. So if the Los Angeles Rams win this, they're one and one. I have some say if that was the Los Angeles Rams are my official pinky team. If they win the Superbowl this year, I will cut off the tip. My pinky also talked to a doctor and he was like, yeah, you're right. No doctor will ever do that. What about, well, you're good because hot seat is, is the Rams. They, their whole team is in. Yeah. Yeah. That helps. What about a moil? Do you think somebody that does circumcisions could just cut the tip off? Well, he also told me that I would have to cut some bone.
Starting point is 00:46:11 Yeah, because it will. Why are you saying? Yeah. What you were saying never made sense. You wanted to just like get like a paper cut. No, I want. No, I wanted to get cut off to where the tip of the bone is. He said the nerve endings on the tip of the bone, it would be like way more painful to live with. Okay. So I would have to get to like basically the knuckle. At that point, you might as well just take the whole pinky off.
Starting point is 00:46:39 I'd like to keep a little bit because I'd like to actually have something I could show people. You know what's weird though? Have you ever noticed cartoon characters? They only have four fingers. They've only got a thumb and three fingers I don't know why like five fingers looks weird. You might look better just having four fingers Is this how the guy isn't oh no, that was how the guy in Inglorious but passers ordered beers started to give herself away. He gave himself away What was your hot seat the Rams cuz they're all hurt. Yeah, it wasn't the rain
Starting point is 00:47:06 It was my original house. He was Rexam fans. Why they didn't know who Tom Brady was Why when he went to the oh, I mean, he's the greatest quarterback of all time you think but you would know all the greatest messy Ronaldo the greatest messy is we're not saying like the greatest soccer player of all time Yeah, I would know the greatest the greatest the greatest footballers, but there's a lot of footballers that you know, although no idea I want a graphic of Ronaldo with the award being the greatest Put that put that in the list for the for the take he's yeah So they didn't how what happened
Starting point is 00:47:47 He went to the game. He has the Birmingham team. It's in the same West London and they didn't react. No, they they did a it was it was it was a good chant It was it was football fans. They did a chant being like who the fuck are you wait? So they definitely knew who he was it was yeah, I was it was a little satirical hot seat I was I was they might not be New England fans because they're the Patriots they're named after the team that beat England's ass true okay and the Rams hot seat and the Rams hot seat cool throne my cool throne is Indiana football yeah they're very good rankings came out They have a 23% also with stats. I obviously know not a math guy stats guy the
Starting point is 00:48:32 ESPN fourth down go for it makes no sense it's always go for it when it just never seems to add up the math never seems to add up and then a Pole was released where it gave Indiana football a 23% chance to make the college football playoff. Yeah. That means that I'm counting all of Indiana's wins as James Madison wins. They took our coach, they took some of our best players. Kurt Signetti is a very, very good head coach and it was a great hire by them. I'm mad that we still don't have the guy, but you have to look at the schedule that they have.
Starting point is 00:49:05 And when you take a look at their schedule, it's not crazy to think that it could happen. No, they got, they got the lucky draw of the big 10 this year and they're a good football team. I'm not saying that they're lucky, but they did. It's going to happen every couple of years where you don't have to play somehow. They don't have to play USC, Oregon or Penn state. So the rest of their schedule, they have Nebraska, Michigan and Ohio State are the three big games that feel like if they can get through those or go one and
Starting point is 00:49:32 two or maybe two and one, which they could do that. Yeah, they have a higher percent chance than Michigan and Nebraska to make the playoffs. Interesting. Well, Nebraska is probably because Nebraska, I believe Nebraska also plays. Nebraska also plays, uh, Nebraska also plays Ohio state, but I think they also have to go to USC. So Nebraska, I'm, I'm, you guys have turned me into a big Nebraska guy. You're a Washington fan.
Starting point is 00:49:56 I know, but it's, it's, I'm rooting for Nebraska as well. Just because you like the weird quarterback. He's funny. It's very funny to me. It's very funny. Yeah It's very weird. Massive fans are getting like I don't he's a good quarterback seems like a nice kid It's weird those all can exist Yeah, those all can exist and not I'm not like taking a personal shot at him Eva was saying that team should sign him to be a
Starting point is 00:50:23 To be a scout team quarterback if you're like in the AFC if you're in the AFC West, sign Raiola and have him run scout team on Chiefs week every week. He should be what he should be is a scout team quarterback for opposing fans. So like Broncos because like that's you know, when he does his whole Yeah, welcoming in and everything get the fans ready. Yeah. homes. Do you think he's gonna date like a Brittany look like? Yeah, I would say so okay good job job Hank
Starting point is 00:50:48 great job Hank thanks guys all right PFT your hot my hot seat is Diddy yeah yeah he's on the hot seat what happened so so he got arrested good you should take it Hank why'd you take it I just told you you oh So Stan with Diddy no no, but this is about we disavowed did he is about I cast He's uninvited from part of my take that's a fact. We won't have him on thank God. We ever did we're anti-nazi anti Diddy What else are we just about something else recently that was very? assassination attempts Well Hank didn't
Starting point is 00:51:25 miss a yeah Hank kind of cracked on that I disavow assassination attempts so yeah did he got arrested he got arrested at the Pied Park Hyatt Hotel on 57th Street in New York today okay he's charged with racketeering sex trafficking transportation to engage in prostitution the The charges are tied to freak offs, coerced sex acts that combs allegedly orchestrated and recorded. Apparently they found a thousand bottles of baby oil and lube when they executed the search warrant. I saw, I read some of the stories and they're all just horrific. Yeah, like horrific, horrific things. Diddy is a bad guy.
Starting point is 00:52:09 And my take, this isn't like a wildly original one. I think Diddy killed Biggie. Think about it. Think about it. Is that a take people have? Yeah. Remember when Biggie died? Hank's nodding like PFT. you're just repeating something someone said well
Starting point is 00:52:27 No, I've been saying this I've been says for a while now But when when biggie died you remember did he was like all over TV. He did that the video. I'll be missing you Yeah, like that it he made his entire career about yeah, biggie. That is something that a psychopath didn't he make a whole Yeah, yeah, that is something that a psychopath didn't make a whole album about yeah Yeah, that's something that a psychopath 2004 is a great song killer would do about the guy. They just murdered yeah, just Watch this space for more diddy news, okay? But yeah, his lawyer says that did he's cooperating. That'll be interesting Also, some people think that he might be CIA. Oh, so I'm gonna keep an eye on well it's like if he's cooperating what's I mean, it's gonna be like
Starting point is 00:53:08 Jelaine Maxwell like Epstein everyone's expecting all these names to come out Which in theory they should like if he's having all these parties has all these celebrities They're participating if he's cooperating everything's on video should come out, but somehow nothing's gonna come out Why else would you record all your celebrity friends having sex with people in your house if you weren't going to then use it later? On to be like hey remember that video that I have of you. Why don't you give me this favor? Yeah My cool throne is the NHL. Oh cuz it's back nice NHL training camp Saving NBA it's back this week. So there's a week away. Okay, we quit but this week I think NHL guys are back in training camp. That seems like a very, very short off season.
Starting point is 00:53:48 And I think that I kind of agree that the NHL, we shouldn't take any, we shouldn't really discuss the NHL until after Christmas. Yeah, when Whitney or Biz come on for the first time. Yeah, but they're back. So good for those guys. Yeah. All right, my hot seat is Brittany Mahomes and Taylor
Starting point is 00:54:04 Swift's relationship, because it might, it's going through a lot of stress. Yeah, so Brittany was came out as a Trump supporter then Taylor came out as a Kamala supporter and then Trump said He well, no, he he took a shot at Taylor. It wasn't really a shot. He wrote I hate Taylor Swift Yeah all caps now apparently Brittany Mahomes having his second guessing her supporter Trump because she's friends with Taylor Swift. Is she second guessing? Where is that coming? Because I feel like if you were Britain's report this this deeply bothered Brittany because Taylor is like a sister Her to her and she has done absolutely nothing wrong. Well, if you're Brittany, but I can't I don't know if Trump full
Starting point is 00:54:44 He always said was I hate Taylor Swift. Yeah, it's not exactly like was that a shot. But he also said he he said he appreciated or said he likes Brittany Mahomes. He shouted her out. He said, I like Brittany Mahomes more than Taylor Swift. And then later on, he clarified that no, he does hate Taylor Swift, which I appreciate the balls that it takes to just say, I take like. Take like the largest craziest fan base and just be like hey fuck you.
Starting point is 00:55:08 I wonder if there's any Swifties on truth social though. Probably. Get on truth social. He's got to do it on twitter. Yeah so if they do if they logged on to truth social I imagine that Swifties would take over that website within a couple days. Yeah. Brittany Mahomes is learning uh very quickly that just don't say anything about politics because you're just gonna end up in this Yeah So what happened was Brittany probably was in that zone where it's like we can disagree on politics and still be friends, correct? And that probably took care of things for like a week or two and then Trump started saying Brittany Mahomes his name and then I hate Taylor Swift and then they get together and it's like what's up with your boy? Yeah, what's your boy doing?
Starting point is 00:55:45 Why is he coming at me? So now she has to make a decision whether or not she's the only person in the history of the world that's had to decide Whether she wants to be best friends with Taylor Swift or Donald Trump or vote? Yeah, vote for Donald Trump or be best friends with Taylor Swift Well, I mean I could see a world where if she if she said, you know what? I hate Taylor, too She's gonna go on the campaign trail with Donald Trump yeah they would end up becoming very very close this is a tough decision for her she's got to make it wisely yeah but yeah that just I like the idea of just just put posting anything about politics
Starting point is 00:56:17 and then having your whole world like everyone just being like you got to decide right now yeah which one's it gonna be? That sucks. All right, and then my cool drone is Ben Simmons. Because Ben Simmons reportedly is in camp, or at least training. He says Ben Simmons is back to playing all-star talent level basketball. Get ready for this, boys. Big season loading.
Starting point is 00:56:43 Oh, who reported that? I don't know. NBA Central. Okay, so. The Dunk Central. With Ben Simmons. Central or Central? That's a very important question.
Starting point is 00:56:54 Yes, I'm reading it right now, it says Central. It's like Hank when you mix up the PGA Tour and the one that's team ULR. So, has he always had All-Star talent level? Yes, I would say so. He definitely has all sorts of, Oh, he's putting in work. This is big time guys. I think this is the year this is a year for Benson. He's on the nets, right? Still no. Is he on the net? I think I, I think he is. He, he's a guy who has not played for so long that we don't even know what team he's on
Starting point is 00:57:25 He's on the Nets Big season loading god damn I kind of respect Ben Simmons just being like I've made so much money. Why would I try? Yeah, I mean he's got a pretty good gig right now Which is just get paid a lot of money and then get a court side seat to NBA games Yeah, I kind of like wear cool like sweaters and stuff Living Brooklyn is a rich person. It does look like this is the last Last year of his contract is so it would be so funny if he was really good Oh, yeah, he will be he gets another contract and then he immediately quits again. Yeah home bring him back to the Sixers Max
Starting point is 00:57:57 Oh, he's the final piece backs process. I mean if he was good you would love him Yabu Yabu Yabu Ben Simmons better better human being or basketball player max hmm Say this again Ben Simmons better basketball player or human being Basketball player for sure is he a sure He's not a good human being I I mean to me. He's the worst human You don't pretty bad bass. You don't think he's a good human being because he's not a good human being? I mean, to me, he's the worst human being. You don't pretty bad. You don't think he's a good human being because he's not a good
Starting point is 00:58:28 basketball player. Correct. But I think if he was a better human being, he would be a better basketball player. Not necessarily. Yes. Yeah. Because he would he wouldn't be I mean, he's an ass what he did to Philadelphia. Yeah, you can't forget. Yeah, what he did to Philadelphia by being bad at basketball Specifically no, but he but he quit. Yeah, absolutely He passed up on that. He passed up the the easy dunk. Yeah, and well and then he was just a huge mental pussy after Yeah
Starting point is 00:58:57 mental pussy Don't want to be called an MP. I mean Carson Wentz I'm kind of back in on Carson Wentz. No, don't do this. Well, he is on the Chiefs. If Patrick Mahomes ever got hurt and Carson Wentz came in. He would play well. He would. Motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:59:14 You know that he would. I know. I know. You think that he would. Yeah. What I'm doing right now is I'm fighting an internal war inside my own brain where I can picture him getting back into the game, well and then me being like god damn I kind of think Carson Wentz is a good quarterback
Starting point is 00:59:27 Yeah, I like it. I don't want Patrick my homes ever get hurt But I would love to see Carson Wentz have like two good games for the Chiefs And then this offseason everyone would be like that's the guy. That's the guy. He's back to 2017 You know, by the way PFT I found a stat for us. You're ready for this set for us. You ready for this? How many did Jalen Hurts throw a touchdown pass last night? He threw one, right? Devante Smith.
Starting point is 00:59:51 Great throw. Kirk Cousins threw two or one. How many Kirk Cousins threw? He threw one. I think. Drake London. Well, the Drake London was the winner. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:04 No, he threw to Darnell Mooney, the deep ball. Oh yeah. Bare for life. Uh, so here's the stat. Let me get it. Um, passing touchdowns through two weeks, 2019, 105, 2020, 110, 2021, 110, 2022, 105, 20, 23, 86, 20, 24, 69. It's not cool to throw touchdown passes anymore. Yeah. The game is actually lame. The game's changed. Yeah. The game has changed. That's actually, it's a shocking stat that, you know, two years ago it was over a hundred every single year and now we're at 69 passing touchdowns. Do you think that has anything to do with the point of emphasis for, uh, for tackles to not line up so deep? I think that has anything to do with the point of emphasis for for tackles to not line up so deep?
Starting point is 01:00:48 I think it probably has to do with the fact that Cale Williams and Jaden Daniels and Bo Nicks and who else is playing quarterback right now? Trick May doesn't have any. Trick May. Make a point. Chico Gershett's playing quarterback. Joe Brashong? Joe Mellon.
Starting point is 01:01:02 Brashong's playing quarterback. I think that probably has to do with it. Yeah. Well, listen, it's great having a quarterback when you know if the game's on the line, you can trust him with a ball in his hands to hand it to another guy to put the ball in his hands. I do love our Sunday Night Podcast because I always, by the time I wake up on Monday,
Starting point is 01:01:20 like around nine o'clock, I'm coming in to work and everything I said, I'm like, yeah, you kind of overreacted. Yes We're Vikings fans. Oh, yeah. Sorry Vikings fans. I fucked up you guys were the ones that fumbled not the 49ers I got I didn't mute the words Vikings and fumble because just a little Listen, we make a lot of mistakes in this podcast Playing the NFL ten games happening at the same time is too much football So I got I got confused trying to remember all the facts was you know watching Bears Sunday night? So yes, I I literally had to mute the word Vikings because I was like I already apologize
Starting point is 01:01:58 I can't just have every two tweets be like hey you fucking idiot Yeah, so that was the other thing is that on it's not just like the overreactions, but we are watching all the games at the exact same time. And there's only one that we can have sound sound on. Otherwise, it's just it's too much and you can't hear anything. Yeah. I fucked that up. So we miss we miss details more than occasionally on this show. Yeah, we try to clean them up.
Starting point is 01:02:20 That was the Bears playing Sunday football really fucked up our rhythm. I don't want them. I don't think they have any more Sunday night games. Do you have a Sunday night game? We have Monday night game. All right, but yeah, Monday's fine. Yeah, that's perfect But Sunday night because it specifically screws up our prep and getting ready for you know We were streaming it so there were a couple Bengals fans that found out I'm gonna go to the game on Monday night and they were they were Getting into Jayden pretty hard and they challenged me that if if Jaden doesn't have any touchdowns
Starting point is 01:02:46 Again to the third week. I should shotgun a can of Skyline chili. Okay, I will accept that Okay, I will accept that also partially because I love eating Skyline chili once a year It's gonna say the Bengals fans in the room with us right now What like you you just yeah, you just want you just that sweet. You always do the best to just eat more chill. I want that sweet, sweet skyline. But yeah, either way. And on Thursday night, we're going to stream Hank verse memes, which should be very fun. Can't wait. We're going to, we're going to figure out something. We've got to figure out something. We're doing a golden mug for Stella blue coffee. So during the stream, if people buy, we got to figure out something they got to do. I don't know what maybe Skyline chili, maybe kiss, maybe Oh, maybe kiss. Maybe Skyline chili, Chuck. Yeah, there you go. That would be good. Loser of the game. If we reach a certain amount of money. We bring some Skyline back. I'm going on Monday. Yeah, no. But we when you go on Monday, we'll bring some back. Yeah, I'll bring some back. We'll figure it out. Get a deal on it. I know but we when you go on Monday, yeah, I'll bring it back. Yeah, I'll bring it. We'll figure it out Get a deal on it. Okay
Starting point is 01:03:45 Let's get to our interview with Cole Kubrick It's do you think I can bring skyline on an airplane or is it a liquid? No TSA since I probably deals that question all the time all the time. Yeah, they probably have like a check your skyline here. Yeah Cole Kubrick's brought to you by Chevy. There's a reason we've never done a Mount Rushmore pickup trucks And that's because for part of my, there's only one pickup truck, the Chevy Silverado. Why is that? Silverado is a partner, a partner you can depend on. We've all spent time driving and using the Silverado for all kinds of pardon my take jobs, adventures, and other shenanigans.
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Starting point is 01:04:59 here he is, Cole Kubrick. Okay, we now welcome on a friend of the program. Actually, is this your first time coming on? No. First time ever. It is. Yes. Both Big Cat and I have been on your show. So I guess we assume that it was your first time on ours. What the hell? Sorry. Cole Kubrick. Sorry. I've been on both of my shows. Yeah. So PFT we do college football show. I didn't think you were really interested in that. So well, I, I get, that's a misconception. I, I probably watched like, I'd say 11 hours of college football every week, but I don't watch like five games at the same time. I watched two games at the same time. Yeah. He does. He's, he's not as like Hank's level
Starting point is 01:05:36 watching Kent state and Pittsburgh. So Cole Kubrick's on the show, uh, sec network, Mac and cube. Uh, you can can. I've actually found a way to listen to his radio show where you can mute Greg McElroy which is awesome. And just listen to Cole. But Cole we want to have you on. Talk some college ball. We do that every Wednesday and pardon my take. Let's just start with a big picture. So Texas is one now. Georgia's two. Are we nervous at all about Georgia after that game against Kentucky or is it, which I happen to think Georgia does this like once or twice a year and it's usually to Kentucky. It's either like Kentucky or Missouri where they
Starting point is 01:06:14 just kind of have a flat game and they still survive. But that happens to them. They had the, I actually, I actually had, my crew was on the call for the one in Lexington. I think it was maybe 21 or 20. Stetson Bennett was a quarterback and it was like nine, six. Yeah. And I think the first half took seven and a half minutes of real time. Cause all they did is run the ball. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:34 But first off the Kentucky defense really good. You got to give them credit. Brad White, their D coordinator solid. They're deep upfront. Good group of linebackers thought they had a good plan. It depends when you say worried big cat, like what's the context solid, they're deep up front, good group of linebackers thought they had a good plan. It depends when you say worried big cat, like what's the context of winning a national title, they're still going to get into the playoff and if they get in the playoff, they have the talent to be able to make a run.
Starting point is 01:06:55 I think they're holding Carson Beck back a little bit. I don't know if that's because they're concerned with protection or maybe the weapons aren't giving them exactly what they want, not working the middle of field as much. They're not a ground and pound team offensively. They've been able to be that in the past and then work in whoever's playing quarterback and use the receivers like last year Brock Bowers, whatever. But that offensive line is not what I thought they were going to be.
Starting point is 01:07:16 So they can't just push people around and mash people. And they're really not that kind of a group on defense. Now what they do have are freak show monsters on defense that can get you off the edge or get sideline to sideline and just be a problem. So nobody's running through Georgia. It's just, I think their trip to the playoffs can be a little more difficult. And if they were to make a run,
Starting point is 01:07:36 it's just not gonna probably look as dominant or clean as it has in years past. Yeah, I think worry for Georgia is everyone knows Georgia schedule is insane. I don't think anyone thought going into this season, Georgia was going to go undefeated. I think the worry is those that four game that everyone has circle where they have to play out at Alabama, they have to play at Texas,
Starting point is 01:07:56 they have to play at Ole Miss, they play home against Tennessee. The worry is that's a one in three, not a two and two or three in one. Is that, would you, would you say? Totally fair. And when you say that, this is what I don't think most people would think that I think the Ole Miss game, probably the most important game there. Yeah. And people are going to say, what the hell, like how that's like Bama, Texas, number one, Bama's like they've been there and Bama's the team that's essentially had the most success against Kirby smart since he's been the Georgia head coach.
Starting point is 01:08:26 If you look at the Ole Miss schedule, we had this perception big cat coming into the year, 10 and two gets you in, right? 10 and two, oh, new playoff, 12th team, 10 and two you're in. Look at the Ole Miss schedule. They go 10 and two, I don't think it's a guarantee that they're in.
Starting point is 01:08:38 I think they got a really good football team this year. Missouri, same way. Penn State, same way. Notre Dame, same way. I don't think 10 and two just guarantees that you're in the playoff with those schedules. And if Georgia were to go down to say, an Alabama or a Texas, not near as big of a deal. But I think you can go a little bit further in eliminating Ole Miss with maybe a 10 and two similar record. If you're Georgia, because you had those other games on your schedule that you might
Starting point is 01:09:03 get just as much credit for losing those games. And Ole Miss just isn't going to have those opponents on their schedule. Yeah. Yeah. And I, Ole Miss is interesting because we're getting ready for SEC's regular season. And I know there's been some, some conference games already, but it's, it's funny looking right now. We have, it's almost like history just keeps repeating itself. Josh Hypple and Lane Kiffin have their teams looking like monsters every year they get in the sec schedule and they lose a couple of games. Do you think that's different? Do you think these iterations of Tennessee and Ole Miss are different where they can start consistently beating the Alabama and Georgia's
Starting point is 01:09:40 to get over that hump? I know Tennessee beat Alabama a couple of years ago, but that's the big thing with Ole Miss. Like Ole Miss can beat everyone. Ole Miss can't beat Alabama and Georgia. And that's what they're getting tested with. Well, let's be real. Why have they not been able to do that physicality? Okay. So it's really interesting. You bring that up. We had Tennessee this past weekend and we pretty much just had Tennessee because Kent state, but we talked to Joey Halsley, their offensive coordinator. And I said, man, a lot more 12 personnel. Like it feels like the downhill run game, more emphasis, extra tight ends. And he said, we spent the entire off season.
Starting point is 01:10:16 Essentially I'm paraphrasing him saying, we know we need to be able to fight different style fights to win a national championship. And if you go back and watch those old UCF offenses, the early Tennessee offenses under Hypo when he was at Missouri, like those offenses get bogged down and then they, it's almost like they just run into a wall if the tempo's not going your way, if you're not hitting the deep balls and then all of a sudden things just stop and where do you go? You have no counterpunch essentially.
Starting point is 01:10:43 So they wanted to try and bring more physicality to have that counterpunch and be able to win a physical style football game. They have three tight ends that are really good. They get after your ass. They can in the run game and then they can help you in the passing game. The offensive line is fun to watch.
Starting point is 01:10:58 I mean, they got big Lance Hurd that transferred him from LSU at left tackle. John Campbell is gonna be an early pick in the draft at right tackle. Cooper Mays is like 20, 70, he's been playing college football forever at center. They got a veteran group and they have depth there and on the defensive line, specifically a D tackle.
Starting point is 01:11:14 And that's where South Carolina, Kentucky, and like Tennessee were different coming into the year. And no one really wanted to talk about it or cared about it. They had interior D line depth. You just mentioned Georgia. They got a couple D-linemen out. They look human.
Starting point is 01:11:29 Alabama loses a tackle week one. Wilson Formby goes in. They look human. Like depth is affecting teams in a really different way with the portal. Tennessee has some depth up front and that's where they're a little bit different. So I do think Tennessee's different.
Starting point is 01:11:41 Does that mean they're ready to just go toe-to-toe with Bama and Georgia every week? I don't know. And then for Ole Miss, the offensive line's not really there. But I'm gonna tell you this, defensively, this Walter Nolan kid they got from A&M, the whole deal with him has been get the light switch to come on all the time, not when he wants it to. Big Cat, he's different, man. He's a fucking monster inside for Ole Miss.
Starting point is 01:12:03 And they look like a real SEC defensive line now. Principal Human Alley from Florida off the edge. J.J. Pegues who does some of the offensive stuff at tight end. Like he's turned into a really good defensive lineman. They look like an SEC D line. And even front seven, Chris Paul, linebacker from Arkansas, they got like, we talked to Pete Golding two years ago. And he's like, listen, we need to get longer and we need to
Starting point is 01:12:24 get thicker all Over our defense and I think they've done that so no matter how you spin it I can tell you this they're both a hell of a lot closer than what they have been in years Yeah, and I think we're gonna find out a lot about Tennessee this week, but I'm gonna wait to for me It's not like how are they gonna play against Georgia? I want to see if they're able to beat Florida because they never beat Florida and so if they're able to just like take care of business against a shitty shitty team like Florida Then I'll start to believe okay, this could actually happen But for whatever reason with Tennessee it's like that's been one thing that they've just struggled to do even when Florida's had down years
Starting point is 01:12:56 But I do like Tennessee a lot. The quarterback is awesome What did Big T say he said like they could have scored 150 points last 200 many points do you think they could have scored against Kent State? One 30. It was 38. Nothing at the end of the first quarter and they weren't even, they didn't have their foot on the gas. I mean, now it helps when the other team snaps over your quarterback's head three consecutive third downs. I mean, that's, you know, a lot of it was Tennessee, but they had some help too. Quickly on Tennessee, the difference right now, Dylan Sampson, it's not Nico, it's not the receivers. This kid is a lightning rod at tailback, explosive play waiting to happen.
Starting point is 01:13:31 And he presses the line of scrimmage, presses his blocks like this kid is big time. And they're very different after him, but Dylan Sampson stays healthy. Tennessee is going to be a handful. Yeah. One thing I love about you Cole is how passionate you are about just big guys in general. You just love big dudes. Thick, so what's in listen, yeah, I'm not even going to break it down to offensive and defensive line. Uh, what college in the country right now has the, has the best biggest dudes, man, probably Alabama right this second. And honestly, two weeks ago, PFT, I wouldn't have said that, but they get proctor back at left tackle and everybody knows proctor story transferred to Iowa, like hung out in his dorm room for a couple of weeks and then transfer back
Starting point is 01:14:08 to Alabama. I think he strategically did that by the way. So we didn't have to go through spring ball. Smart. He gets to Iowa, skip spring ball. And then right after spring ball wants to come back. It's actually a really intelligent move, by the way, if you can pull it off. Now I hate the process of moving. So I never would have done that, but Hey, if you get out of 18 practices and pads, like that's good for you kid. He had a little something extra this past week against Wisconsin. Sorry, big cat. Yeah, it was bad.
Starting point is 01:14:34 Tyler Booker is my favorite player to watch in college football. Like he is an absolute glass eater. He is the guy that has the most nasty of any offensive lineman in college football, and I watched Parker Brails for last year. Washington won the Joe Moore award. He was a really good player, but he's got a little extra shit about him this year. Like he's, he's a little something different and I think it's because he's playing next to Booker.
Starting point is 01:14:56 And then now you have Pritchett at right tackle, which was kind of in and out early on like that group looks like it's about ready to go. And then on the defensive line, I didn't really know exactly what they had, but L.T. Overton, A&M transfer looks pretty good. Tim Smith last week looks pretty good. Kwey Rus off the edge. If he gets healthy, lost him against Wisconsin. I'll probably go Bama right now because they also have like Robbie Utes and CJ
Starting point is 01:15:20 Dupree, a couple of the, I call them bonus bigs, like tight ends that can help out and be extra linemen. So I probably go Bama right this second. Yeah. Um, what, so outside of the sec, uh, Ohio state had a bi-week. They have looked the part outside of like a first, you know, weird quarter against Akron week one. They haven't played anyone, but they've looked the part. Penn state had a weird game against, uh, uh, what was it? Who'd they play? Oh, Bowling Green. And Oregon is now starting to round into form. What, you know,
Starting point is 01:15:52 you're an SEC guy, but what teams outside of the SEC would you say are, are that national title contender and that you maybe have been like, wow, they showed me something the first couple of weeks of the season. Yeah, it's, I mean, Ohio State's their first and Big Cat, you and I have talked about them. I think they're a little bit different than the last five, eight years ago, Ohio State teams, where they just don't have the MFers in the trenches like they've had before, like the dudes that were just nasty. But I love Chip Kelly. I love his offenses and just it's going to take a little while to get it all going. Now, like they don't even have like a cage stover like they had a tight end last year who would just like, I mean, you'd never wanted to see in a back alley. He gets injured by like he got injured like farming in the in the by week, like, you don't want that dude on your team. Um, but Quinn Sean, Judkins, Trevion Henderson, there's not a better one to
Starting point is 01:16:47 punch it at running back in the country. The receiver room is ridiculous. And the more comfortable Will Howard gets, like I've watched him and he looks fine. He's not super dynamic, but you might not need to be super dynamic in that offense and the defense is going to be solid. It's like, how much further can the defense go and how comfortable does everybody get in an offense that can create space, can get you in the wrong place, can get you going the wrong way because they've got home run hitters man. Yeah and the good news for Ohio
Starting point is 01:17:16 State is they have basically an extended preseason because their first game of the season is until Oregon in October. That schedule worked out well because they basically can configure it all out to get that finely tuned for when they have to start playing some big time competition. They're not the only ones. I mean, Ole Miss has a freaking 72 mile runway into their season.
Starting point is 01:17:37 Missouri's got a long runway into their season, so it's not like a Big 10 thing. Like you brought up Oregon, Big Cat. I've watched them. It hasn't been it hasn't been clean. No. Um, but I tell you this, like Dylan Gabriel's throwing darks. Like he just, they just need to find balance offensively and it's not there yet, but they're going to be dangerous. Um, I don't know what I think about Penn State right now.
Starting point is 01:17:59 I'm kind of up and down certain times I'll watch them. I feel pretty good about them. And then I'm like, man, I don't know. And I think USC is a major wild card because I didn't expect them to be able to hold up physically against LSU the way that they did. Now I'm not saying they're 95 Nebraska or anything yet, but they do look a little different than they have. And maybe this Miller Moss kid is like the guy. Yeah. You know, they got skill. Uh, the Woody Marks kid they got from Mississippi States has stud like he he's been great in every system He's played he's played air raid stretch play. He can do it all he's a good back
Starting point is 01:18:29 So they got guys and maybe maybe USC's a team that once we get down There's gonna be there in Miami obviously is that team damn more to dude They're physical on both sides of the line of scrimmage and that defense can just run USC is gonna be that this Michigan game this weekend is going to tell I think a lot because I Believe in in dance and Lynn. I believe in what they've changed on defense Now that Michigan's switching to orgy and they're gonna just try to run it down their throat Probably a lot like is USC able to play that type of defense where they can tackle and Not keep up those explosive runs and stuff like that because if they they can go into Michigan and win there, I think they're for real.
Starting point is 01:19:09 But there, here's the flip side of that. And I love these style games. So what's a good performance for the Michigan defense against this office? Yeah. 17 21 can Michigan get to that? I don't think so. I don't think so. I mean, their offense is very limited. Very, very. I'll say this. The front seven for USC will be okay. They start getting past that. I don't think the perimeter guys on the USC defense enjoy tackling very much. So I would look for everybody thinks it's just going to be between the tackles. I would look for Michigan to kind of go outside early, get the defense running a little bit and try to make some of those DBs tackle early on and then see what they can do between the tackles there. Because that Michigan O-line is not what it's been the last three, four years.
Starting point is 01:19:52 Yeah. I think they're going to be better just because of the fact they're not doing the two quarterback system. Because if you've got a guy that's like Orji, you put him in, you know he's just going to run the ball. And if he's playing every single snap, he's gonna catch you off guard with maybe a couple passes that you're not expecting. But when you put him in specifically,
Starting point is 01:20:08 it's like, okay, the defense knows exactly what's happening and they look really, really bad on offense, especially against Texas. That game was never close. So I feel like even though he hasn't been super impressive, the offense might be better because he's just the guy and there's only one guy that's gonna be playing. Yeah, I think what you're saying, PFTFT is like, you know who you are. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:27 Like we're not trying to be some, we're not, we're not trying to be spread pro style offense. Even like we're ground and pound. And we have a guy that can do standing pistol squats and pick up corn kernels for an hour. And so therefore you should be a good quarterback. I love the farming tips. Yeah. Yeah. We're going to get back to Cole Kubilik in a second. Here to announce something very special from Mugsy jeans. We're teaming up with Mugsy for an epic giveaway.
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Starting point is 01:22:31 Place an order at Muggsy.com and use the code MEGA at checkout to enter the giveaway. And now here's more Cole Kubiluk. Let's go down to Florida State real quick. If we're assigning blame for this season, how much blame are we putting on Mike Norvell and how much are we putting on the guy that did not eat shit after they lost that opening week game to Georgia Tech? I think it's all on that gentleman, to be honest with you. I think he jinxed him on the front end to even think he could get away with that. And then obviously on the back end, he's gone full black cat, like conspiracy theory, put it all on him that he won't do this. And then to try to disappear with where we are today in social media, to think
Starting point is 01:23:08 that you can escape the psychopaths that are going to come try to hunt you down. It's not possible. So I think he gets full blame because you knew there was going to be turnover. Most of us knew that DJ Ule Angole was not that guy quarterback. And you used a whole new cast of characters. It's kind of like to be real with you, PFT. I think you blame what college football is today for most of this. Like society, you're going to hit sometimes and then you're not going to hit sometimes.
Starting point is 01:23:34 I mean, it's you're playing roulette with a lot of transfer portal guys. And Norvell got what he could. And it hasn't really worked out to what they had a year ago. And they're just not as capable. Yeah, I do think it's I mean, it's ridiculous that we've got copycats now they're saying, you know what, I'll eat this shit for this guy. If he won't do it. Like we got volunteers.
Starting point is 01:23:54 Where's Bert Kreischer in this? This seems like a role that he was born to play, like the FSU fan that will take one for the team. No, we need that guy. We need that guy to show his face. Cause it's getting bad. It's getting really bad down there. Speaking of that, like just, just specifically for big cat, like
Starting point is 01:24:10 how much shit would you eat for Wisconsin to win a national title? I'd eat a whole shit, an entire shit, swallow it for a national title in football. What animal? Uh, a 50 plus pound dog. Cause I think if you have to eat animal shit, I think horse is the best one to do. Yeah, probably mostly hay. Yeah. Got some grass. I would, I would consume that, um, to guarantee a national title. Yeah, I would. I mean, that would be,
Starting point is 01:24:37 if horses at the top of your list, PFT was like, what's at the bottom? Like, what's the animal? Like, no, uh, yeah, human, maybe, maybe bat, maybe bat shit would be bad. It feels like there's a lot of parasites in there. Yeah, that would probably get you really sick Yeah human probably at the bottom end of that. Yeah for sure. Yeah, it's greatly on the human Yeah, you know, what's the diet like max's shit? I never know like if it's that dude hanging out with Caleb on Sundays like ain't no way. No, no hell no Yeah, no, um Like if it's that dude hanging out with Caleb on Sundays like ain't no way. No. No. Hell no. Yeah. No. I'm sticking in Florida. What week is Billy Napier going to get fired and who is going to be the new coach at Florida. I feel like Florida fans probably are all
Starting point is 01:25:17 or at least boosters are probably all saying it's going to be laying Kiffin. I don't know if Lane will ever leave. He's got a pretty good gig right now with the expectations and the money at Ole Miss Floor is more money, but what what week is Billy Napier fired and who are they gonna get? I think it's complicated because You have an interim president and if you fire a coach you then have to do what hire a new coach Are you gonna let Scott Strickland hire another coach the athletic director? Right and that's what I kind of don't know the answer to.
Starting point is 01:25:47 I think there's some questions about the interim, if you were to make that move right now, because if there's one thing about Billy Napier, and I kind of love this, like he's overly loyal. So everybody in there, those are his guys. He doesn't say, Ooh, I like what offense that guy runs or man, that's a cool defense, like those are all his guys. So sometimes you can kind of say, well, let's get rid of this guy. Like let's take Auburn, for example, you fire Brian Harson and like Cardinal Williams was your guy.
Starting point is 01:26:10 Right. So he can be the interim coach. Everybody loves that. You know, he's not trying to go against the system or anything. He keeps it all under control. He kind of takes your marching orders. Like it works. I don't know if there's a guy that sort of works that way right now.
Starting point is 01:26:22 And then I think there's some other complications, like a lot of the NIL stuff has been confusing, hasn't gone the way that they wanted to. It like, oh, like we had staples on the show today and I know you guys have had Andy on and we were talking to him about it and I asked him this question because Eli Drinkwitz his name comes up and I think drinks a great coach. Um, I think Kirby Moore is a great offensive coordinator too, and that helps. And Blake Baker was a great D coordinator last year and they got another good one this year. But I said, we know which job is better.
Starting point is 01:26:48 Florida or Missouri. Like we're not going to debate that, but Andy, like he goes deep into all the NIL and the government stuff. I don't really care about that stuff. I said, which situation is better right now? And he had to think about it. And he's like, man, I think it might be Missouri.
Starting point is 01:27:02 Yeah. Right now I'm like the overall situation because like drink, when you got the governor involved, right? Like they changed laws to help their NIL and in Florida, it's a more complicated. So I don't know if this is just going to be, Hey, we want that guy. Let's go get him. And it happens, whether it's lane drink, whoever. And you're right.
Starting point is 01:27:21 Lane's got a great gig, man. Like the there's been a groundswell of support. He's getting talent to come in through the port. It's like we all made fun of them portal King thing, but it's working. Yeah. Like what part of it hasn't worked so far. Yeah. And, and I think there's something to be said, especially with the new college football then I L and transfer portal being at a place where the expectations aren't insane does have a benefit. If you're a coach where it's like I'm not being I'm not being asked to win an SEC championship every year you know maybe he gets there with Ole Miss and it's like you know he keeps elevating it but right now Ole Miss if they're in the playoff
Starting point is 01:28:00 that's a successful year and Lane Kiffin did something they couldn't have conceived of 10 years ago. Here's the crazier part. Big cat like what are those expectations even going to be now? Is it just to get in? Right. Like our Alabama fans going to be happy with Kaelin DeBoer if he gets in and they lose round one or even if they get a buy and then they lose like probably not.
Starting point is 01:28:20 Our Ole Miss fans happy to get in like did they then think it should be national title or but we don't know because there's no more division, so you can't kind of hang your hat on that. Right. Winning the SEC Championship is going to be hard, and it might be better to be the number three team that doesn't get into the title game. See, that's one thing I'm really interested in this year
Starting point is 01:28:39 with the playoff is like, what happens to these conference championship game losers? Because we have just like normally throwing those teams to the trash, like music city bowl, like, trust me, I was on two of those, like I lost two SEC championship games, we went to the peach bowl and we went to the citrus bowl, which was, I guess was a decent one back then. But like, what's going to have those teams in?
Starting point is 01:29:00 Yeah. Are they, are we going to keep them elevated in like how they get in or where they're even seated? We don't know how that's going to go. So even the expectations I think are going to change based on how this playoff goes. Yeah. I think what seems like Ole Miss, if you, if you get into the playoff, if you win a playoff game at Ole Miss, they're very, very happy with you. So I do think, I do think it's a good place for Filane. Let me put a name out here for you for Florida, but Urban Meyer, bring them home. put a name out here for you for Florida, but urban Meyer, bring them home. I don't think listen, I have a ton of respect for urban, but I
Starting point is 01:29:27 don't think his style of coaching is overly conducive with today's college football. You mean he's too much of a dick. He's a grinder. Yeah. Just say that. Fox. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. That's I mean, it's fair. I think that's a small portion of why Saban walked away. Like he couldn't coach the guys the way that he wanted to anymore. The way that guys probably need to be coached, but now you have an out. Like, I mean, Rick Trickett was my head coach when I, my offensive line coach
Starting point is 01:29:58 when I was at Auburn, like he referenced me as the dumbest motherfucker he coached every single day for two and a half years. You can't do that anymore. It's just, it's not the way the world works. You can't coach because of woe. Yeah, I like that. You're probably right. You're Urban Meyer.
Starting point is 01:30:13 I mean, he, he at the very tail end of his career, uh, in college, he was able to do some of the stuff that, that works. He goes to the NFL and now doesn't work there. Clearly college football has become more like the NFL when it comes to player empowerment and players having options and not having to eat shit all the time if they want to stick around. So yeah, you're probably right on that one. What about Texas? I love, I love the Longhorns, Texas and Oregon preseason. Those are the two teams that I thought were going to be great. Um, Sark looks like he can do whatever he wants on offense right now. And, uh, the defense has been better than people thought that it was going to be when it comes
Starting point is 01:30:48 to like, you know, they lost two great players on their defensive line last year. They've got some landmines though. So what teams in the SEC do you think matchup should give Texas the most problems as they try to try to run this table here? I don't from a matchup perspective, PFT, I don't really know if there's a ton that I look at and just say like from a matchup perspective, like that's, that's rough. We would go Georgia in the regular season.
Starting point is 01:31:12 However, if they're as dinged up as they are, like, keep in mind, Texas has their whole offensive line back. Kelvin banks left tackle is going to be a top 10 pick. Um, they have two guys on the bench on their offensive line that have been starters in the past, so they have depth there. They addressed the defensive line. They went and got Bill Norton from Arizona who signed with Georgia originally. He's playing good ball.
Starting point is 01:31:33 They get the edge rusher Trey Moore from UTSA. They're actually better on the edge than they were a year ago. Cause he's got a little bit more twitch. This kid number 11, this true freshmen. Holy hell. Watch this kid operate like big, long, fast, like can cover ground, can rush the passer, which side note, these true freshmen, man, like it's insane
Starting point is 01:31:53 how ready they are right now. Like the Dylan Stewart kid at South Carolina, obviously Ryan Williams at Alabama, Ohio State's got a receiver, it's dumb, man. Like these guys, like what they're doing. But I think they're probably more of a matchup problem for anybody else than anybody else is for them because of how versatile they are offensively. Uh, the motions they use, the formations, I want to see them run the ball a
Starting point is 01:32:15 little bit more downhill. They haven't gotten to that yet. They got a really nice tight end that they can use. Receivers have juice. Like Isaiah Bond and those guys can go Silas Bolden can go. Um, I think they're more of a matchup problem PFT for any SEC team than any other SEC team would be for them yeah yeah the that might be with Arch or Quinn yeah that's the thing like Sark has to be the most confident person in the world because he he knows that if something happens Quinn's had
Starting point is 01:32:40 some injuries in the past and he's injured right now but if anything major were to happen to where he had to miss extended time Arch Manning looks like he's ready to step in the past and he's injured right now. But if anything major were to happen to him, we had to miss extended time. Arch Manning looks like he's ready to step in right now and win a national championship. I mean, I will say this. He did some awesome things. I was most impressed with his poise. Like he's backed up in his own end zone, in the gun, five step drop, sits there, sits there, sits there, knows he's going to take a rib shot and delivers a ball downfield.
Starting point is 01:33:03 We saw a little bit of his, his legs. He can move some, but trust me, there are some things that he didn't see that he's not getting away with against a lot of other teams, but he's young. That'll come with experience. What a luxury though. Like everybody talks about that. Like it's a problem. How's he going to manage it?
Starting point is 01:33:18 How's he going to deal? That's a luxury, man. Like to be able to say this dude's coming in and he's going to be able to manage our offense, especially with how high percentage a lot of their stuff can be quick throws, easy throws, run game. Start can dial it back a little bit where it's not having to get through four or five progressions on every snap. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:36 Yeah. And he's fast too, which is crazy. He's a manning with speed. I guess that's Cooper was a faster one, right? And everyone. Yeah. And arch or Archie. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:45 But it is weird to see because the Eli and Peyton, especially at the end, he ran, I think 21 miles per hour. I think that's how fast they click. That's not natural for a manning. Unfair. Yeah. Very unfair. He said is, I think he said his mom is the one to credit for the speed. So yeah, she did some there. All right. So Cole, I got one last question. It's a robot question. R H O B A C K.com promo code. take 20% off first purchase. Q zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, row back.com. This has been awesome. Long overdue. You're going to come back on now anytime we ask. Uh, so I give you, I give Cole a little shit. You probably see Cole on sec network.
Starting point is 01:34:21 He's calling games. He's on the sideline. Um, I call it, uh, the cold cubic, like pet an animal, eat a random sandwich point of the broadcast when he gets a blowout. Uh, what's the most, what's the most random animal you've had to interact with and the most random thing you've had to eat when you know the game is slipping away and you're like, shit, we got, we got 30 more minutes to go game minutes to fill and this game sucks. What, what, what's the one that you like think back to? You're like, that really sucked. I didn't really, really love doing that. I'm so bummed that you miss my interview with camp maze. Nine year old brother of hating
Starting point is 01:34:59 Cooper maze in the Tennessee game. Last one you knew before you had to load, you had to load the clip before that game even started. You knew that game was going to be entailing. Yeah. Storytime. Yeah. It's, we're going deep in the, in the story realm. The most random item would have been the donut burger in Columbia, South Carolina, because the state fair happens right across the street, literally across the street in the parking lot for a couple of weeks there in Columbia. But the most random way something happened, and this
Starting point is 01:35:28 is serious, Tom and Jordan had made a joke about getting ice cream in the press box when we were in Knoxville during halftime. And I was like, man, you know, like could have passed me one. And like two series later, just random guy comes walking by, I get tapped on the back and watching the game. I turn around and he hands me an ice cream sandwich. And I was just like, you know what? We're going for it. Yeah. Eight ice cream sandwich right there.
Starting point is 01:35:50 Uh, animal interacted with, um, I told you I was going to try the game cock last year and the handler literally said, Hey, um, this can end poorly and most likely will you can, I and most likely will. You can, I recommend you don't. And I was like, you know what? Bad guy knows a lot more about cocks than I do. I'm gonna take his advice. Feels like I should steer clear of that.
Starting point is 01:36:16 So I'll probably go with the giant pig in Fayetteville, like feeding him grapes. I didn't, I didn't know pigs would like grapes, but that thing loves grapes, man. He's massive. Oh, by the way, I didn't even think about it., but that thing loves grapes, man. Yeah. Oh, by the way, I didn't even think about it. What, what was it like when you were on the sideline? I was at that game, the Tennessee Ole Miss game when they started throwing shit. Would you get hit by anything? No, but the items were interesting. The mustard bottle
Starting point is 01:36:37 got a lot of the publicity. The golf ball lane held up. Um, there were, there were dip cans, there were the little vape canister things that you vape out of that. Those came flying down. Lighters, like a Zippo lighter. I'm like, I think that thing's kind of expensive. I don't really have one, but I mean, if they had it on them, it was coming down there. And so yeah, it was, it was an interesting set of items that Tennessee fans decided to chunk down that. Yeah, you got to be pissed off if you're a Tennessee fan to
Starting point is 01:37:04 throw, to throw your dip. Like to chunk down that. Yeah. You got to be pissed off if you're a Tennessee fan to throw, to throw your dip. Like you need that dip. Yeah. 100%. That's a, that's a passionate fan. Especially with the way the game ended. I mean, Ole Miss won the game. So you think you load up after that. Exactly. So, uh, cool. We have not announced the, uh, the watch list yet for the low man trophy, but I'm curious to know, do you have any names that we should put on the watch list for the watch list for the best collegiate fullbacks in America? I'm going to put you guys on a couple of things here. I don't know if you've watched UNLV yet. There's so, there's so much fun. They, I hope they get the playoff that game. They were just bully balling, uh, Kansas on Friday
Starting point is 01:37:37 night. Yes. Uh, Brendan Marion, their offensive coordinator, he calls it the go-go offense. This would be literally like you two drawing up formations there in studio. Like some of the shit that you see, it's, I mean, the running backs, literally like two running backs right next to the quarterback, they have a tight end slash fullback 44, uh, his name is Christian Moore, I think they got him from K state, which makes a ton of sense. And he's fun to watch. So he's kind of a hybrid fullback.
Starting point is 01:38:03 This kid, Kate and Luke 30 from Arizona. Yep. And he's fun to watch. So he's kind of a hybrid fullback. This kid, Caden Luke, 30 from Arizona. Yep. So like he is a literal saw blade on the field. And then like this is kind of your year PFT, because like, Arkansas is running to my formation. So Maddox Lasseter is there. Like, I think it's kind of coming full circle. So we're not seeing a ton of it just yet, but those are kind of three that I would throw out there. Maybe not your old school traditional Corey Schlesinger fullback, but you know, some guys that are fun to watch like a literal saw blade. Yeah. Little saw blade coming at you. I like a Brock Lampe too from NIU. Okay. I was doing the Oklahoma game during that game. I hadn't gone back and watched it, but yes, I will absolutely go check him out. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:42 I don't get to max and usually until like the end of October. And I, you is, yeah, they basically have, uh, they're like, they, well now Wisconsin's down, but they've created Wisconsin jr. They have a bunch of offensive linemen from Wisconsin. I think their ad is a X badger. So they, that's, they're running all that shit and just bullying people. The max going to Lena knocks off Mississippi state like a Jason candle. Big win for him. Yeah. I love knocks off Mississippi State like Jason Candle. Big win for him. Yeah. I love Max. I don't know how you can't love it. It's the best. Um, all right, Cole, thank you so much. You're the best and uh, good luck this week. What game are you on? I will be on a Georgia Southern at Ole Miss six 45 on the sec networks Saturday
Starting point is 01:39:20 night. Okay. So we got to figure out, we got to figure out what, what we're going to eat or do that one. I don't think it's going to be close. Yeah. What are the missus? Oh, missus kind of in that zone of like the chip Kelly Oregon days where I was, I was coming back from Madison and I bet Ole Miss and I, uh, I looked at the score and it was like 14, oh five in the first Ole Miss seven week four zero. And I was like, Oh, okay. Yeah, this is how it's going to go. That's it. That's what they do. I'll tell you this quickly. I was in my producer and I were talking, you mentioned like stories and we were talking back and forth in the Tennessee Kent state game this weekend. And I, he wanted me to
Starting point is 01:39:55 tell this story about a Tennessee tight end. And I said, well, they're about to score. And there was like two 15 on the clock and it's running down. I said, we're going to hit the two minute timeout here and we can't, he goes, there's no two minute timeout here. And I was like, what? It's there's just like two 11 now they're going to hit that. Then they're going to score. I'm not going to have time. He's like, cool. It's third quarter. I was like 68, nothing. And I was like, I side with you on that. Yeah. Yeah. That game, that game was crazy. Crazy. Yeah. Um, all right. Thanks so much, Cole. Appreciate it. Later, Cole. Appreciate you guys having
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Starting point is 01:43:29 I'm just happy football's back. I was thinking you went through You lost week one. I forgot you won week two Yeah I was wondering if you had the same like I I woke up and was in a foul mood and then I Picked myself up and like fucking week two. Yeah. Yeah, I was in a foul mood fine Monday after week one just because if you start out with a defense that looks so bad Then you just know it's gonna be a long year. Yeah backs. You're gonna be fine tomorrow morning. No, I'm not Yeah, well, it's week two We just went from Super Bowl contenders to like hopefully we make the playoffs and that's that's forever
Starting point is 01:44:00 I think I think I have you as a playoff team in my power rankings. I Thought you had us too high. There's teams below us. I think are better. Okay. Well, it wasn't me. It was the computer. That's true Did you see my Jayden Daniels ranking? No, what was it? I did so it was all the rankings and then there's a tier that just says Jayden Daniels looks good Commanders. Yep, Anthony Richardson looks good and bad. Colts. Okay. And then Bo Nicks looks bad. Broncos. Okay. I like it. Jane Daniels looks good. Yeah. Hank, you saw the handoff. I think I was actually fair to everyone. I said, let's not panic for the Jets. I said for you, uh, the Patriots are mean. Yeah, that was unfair. They're frisky
Starting point is 01:44:39 and not fun at all. Overtime is fun. You did not have fun watching the game. I did have fun. They're a frisky team. That's good. Being frisky and not fun at all means you're gonna win some games. And then the Bears were, let's not panic, but there's a little panic, but let's not panic. Hello, Big Cat, PFT, Mr. Hank. When is the discussion about Sean Payton,
Starting point is 01:44:59 getting Sean Payton the hell out of Denver going to start? He's washed up, he can't get around with his silly tactics trying to build the Saints 2.0. Guess what buddy? You're not in that loser division anymore and you can't coast by the regular season I like this because I think it's about to start silly tactics Here's the thing also you guys see them the the perk story. What? That the bounty gate was like a cover-up yeah are you talking about the interview we did today that you listened to I was sorry I jumped out for some of it but are you talking about the part that you listen to I must not
Starting point is 01:45:35 listen I wasn't in here literally just talking about that story with somebody who's gonna be on the show we have a good interview sorry yeah my dad actually very no you don't cut it I didn't know that's a good interview coming with Mike Silver next week. I'll cut that. No, you don't have to cut it. No, that's a good preview. Okay. Did you read about it somewhere or did you just hear this? But I think you listened to the interview and then you just said, did you guys hear the story that we- I read the story.
Starting point is 01:45:54 I did. Where was the story today? It wasn't, it was a couple days ago. I think you listened to it and just- No. Yeah. Yeah. No. We literally had that conversation with Mike Silver. I read it. Okay. That's crazy. That's a crazy coincidence. It is.
Starting point is 01:46:08 So keep that. Yeah. Keep it. Yeah. Mike Silver was a great interview. It's coming on Wednesday next week. He came in studio. We did an hour. He knows so much about football, interviewed the craziest things. Got a new book out. I don't think that Hank read about that today. I think he listened to it. I promise you that I read about it. It's crazy because we literally talked about Maybe you literally might have heard the interview and then you looked it up. Yeah, that's what I think what happened. I Why would I not just say that if that's right back to Sean Payton though Sean Payton made a very very big mistake In the Bo Nix thing if Bo Nix doesn't turn out to be good The the let me draft a quarterback because it will give me some more years on my leash here is a smart strategy that most coaches do But you can't be the guy who's like it's my quarterback
Starting point is 01:46:53 You got to let the GM say it's his quarterback. Who is the GM in Denver? It might be Sean Payton It might be Sean Payton. So that was GM Sean. I mean he does have the move where he could fire himself as GM. Yeah stay as head coach. But yeah, I think it's- But there's bad enough to the point where if the quarterback play doesn't improve, I think you'll have people talking about this here. It's also getting to a point where the Broncos are somehow, because the Broncos up until this last stretch, so like after Peyton retired, the Broncos were one of the model organizations in
Starting point is 01:47:26 football. They were they had been to a bunch of Super Bowls, they had won three. I don't think they ever had, they had a stretch where they didn't have a losing season for a really long time. I don't think they've ever picked one overall. They're one of the two or three franchises that have never picked one overall. And now with the last nine years or so or 10 years, that's starting to wash away and people are being like the Broncos stink. And that's never a thing you want to be. Yeah, the worst thing that could happen for Sean Payne this year is if Russell Wilson starts to play for the Steelers and he plays well, then that would be like, okay, let's talk about what Sean's doing. I'm going to look up the stat. Teams
Starting point is 01:48:02 that have never picked will do trivia never picked It was four days ago at the store one one. That's why I Okay, you ready for it? Yeah, do you have guesses Broncos are one of them Broncos? We won have to have the commanders done it the commanders have Anyone got any guesses one one overall think of organizations that have been pretty good Never really really really bad Are the Steelers? Nope. Are you looking at me for a reason?
Starting point is 01:48:32 No. It's the Broncos, the Ravens, and the Seahawks. Oh. I've never held the first pick in the draft. That's pretty crazy, huh? That is nuts. That's a pretty crazy stat. No, the Eagles have had the first pick, right, Max?
Starting point is 01:48:46 McNabb? Was McNabb? I don't know. Fun stuff. My take is that a real fun stuff. My take is that if a football team spent the majority of their money on offensive and defensive alignment and not skilled position players, they'd still be a great team. The fans wouldn't like it at first since they probably wouldn't be any splashy players and you'd get their want to get their jersey But a team that has an all-pro offensive slash defensive line would win even with an average QB and average receivers running backs
Starting point is 01:49:12 It's just that no team would do that because it's not sexy and the fans would not be happy the team wants to sell tickets Slash jerseys. I think that's what Harbaugh's gonna try. That's literally what Harbaugh's doing. Yeah get elite quarterback and No, nothing else special. I'm looking up by the way the the Eagles haven't picked one overall in forever and neither of the commanders. So they picked one overall in 48 and 62 the commander's Eagles picked one overall last time was 1949. It's a long time ago. Yeah. But yeah, this is this is what they're gonna do. It's a long time ago. Yeah. But yeah, this is this is what they're gonna do. It's a good strategy. Yeah. It's very good strategy. But then if you if you look at what teams win Super Bowls, that's hardly ever like the best strategy to have.
Starting point is 01:49:54 No, you're gonna need some good teams eventually. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. But I like this strategy a lot. You can have a lot of fun watching football games for the team that's built like that. Yeah, it is the Chargers though football games with a team that's built like that. Yeah, it is the Chargers though this year. The Chargers have no, like what is their, Josh Palmer is their, is there one right now, right? Yeah, it's Quinton, right? Yeah, I mean, yeah, he was a high draft pick,
Starting point is 01:50:20 but he wasn't a hardball draft pick, but yeah. Yeah, so Chargers, look out for the Chargers. Hey, PMTT. I have a question if you could go back in time and redo your times. I guess I meant to me teams Your team's biggest blunder. What would you fix and why for me? It's gotta be the Bears draft in 2024 Kelly Williams is not generational and they should have traded the pick Oh that was mean and that also was not a Bears fan because if you wanted to do drafts, wouldn't you just take Patrick Mahomes? Yeah, that would make sense. I think every team could say that. Yeah. Yeah, but the Bears had the second pick one moment in time for your teams, I think it would be I
Starting point is 01:50:59 Would probably Murdered Dan Snyder's father I'd probably murder Dan Snyder's father before he was able to give birth to Dan Snyder. What would yours be? I would change a thing. Yeah. Bartman. Double doink. Brex, our quarterback.
Starting point is 01:51:15 I don't know. There's this guy was just doing this to just make fun of Caleb Williams. Week two, buddy. It's week fucking two. You wouldn't change Caleb Williams sweet to buddy. It's weak fucking too You wouldn't change anything about the Patriots It's weak fucking too Maybe not draft Aaron Hernandez Trade Aaron Hernandez trade the Seahawks on our request for a trade that would have been good
Starting point is 01:51:38 Do you guys plan on watching that TV show? I only the last episode cuz Kirk's in it. Okay. Yeah Kirk is in it. I'm very curious what they because I have to as a minifan I have to know if I have to take up in arms. Okay, it's how they just actor playing Kirk. Yes. There's an actor that's playing Kirk. Correct. Do we know who the actor is? I don't I think we do but I can't remember. But yeah, so I'm gonna have to have my eyes on that as my duty. All right, last one. Hi boys. If you could choose to have one sports superpower for a day What would you choose for example feel what it's like to shoot like Steph hit a baseball like Barry Bonds run like Usain Bolt Etc dunk. Yeah
Starting point is 01:52:19 Duncan for a day. That's the easiest answer. Oh Hey, I think you want to dunk. Um, shooting like Steph would be incredible. Oh, fuck. Hitting like Barry Bonds is the answer. I mean throwing like Paul Skeens would be pretty sick. The feeling of hitting a home run, like if you just got that feeling 700 whatever times, that's the best. That's awesome. So if one day you woke up and you knew that it was today, like for some reason you woke up,
Starting point is 01:52:48 there's a big plaque on your wall, a sign that said, congratulations, Max, you have been granted one day with the baseball ability of Barry Bonds in his prime. That's tough, okay, I guess I'm sorry. No, no, no, but what would you do? Would you go to, would you like fly to Philadelphia and meet with the Phillies front office, be like, trust me, I can hit like Barry Bonds today. Let me play one
Starting point is 01:53:09 game. I'd probably just like find a way to get onto like, I'd probably just take a bunch of BP all day. Yeah. Can I say, can I say a crazy one that you might disagree with, but in terms of like, yeah, dunking would be awesome. I think dunking is probably one, one because it's something you could just do and not, you know, you're not going to get signed, but you just dunk for a day. Shooting would be cool hitting dingers. One that like I could obviously never imagine myself doing or have even imagined like attempting because dunking is something we all thought maybe we could do one day.
Starting point is 01:53:45 Skating like Connor McDavid would be pretty fucking sick. Like just getting on a blank sheet of ice and just whipping around. I have another one out of left field that would be super cool. Surfing like Kelly Slater would be awesome. If you could just go to like this most beautiful place in the world and just rip through those barrels, that would feel so sick. Actually you know what the answer is? I've got two. this most beautiful place in the world. Yeah. And just rip through those barrels. Oh. That would feel so sick.
Starting point is 01:54:07 Actually, you know what the answer is? I've got two. I got another answer. Okay. Running like Tyreek Hill. Cause that, you could just challenge people to a race that day and just dust them and it would be, I mean, just feel,
Starting point is 01:54:17 we've asked guys this on the podcast, like what does it feel like to be that fast? Okay, mine would be skateboarding. Like being sick at skateboarding all of a sudden. Okay, and you just go around do sick ass tricks. The other would be punching like Mike Tyson. Oh, that's a good one. How good would that be just talking shit to everybody? Just anyone anyone can have a taste today. That's a really good around just when you're not even punching you but you'd walk around with the ability knowing I can kick anybody's ass in this room That's a really good one. Fun. The fact that Hank hasn't said Tiger Woods is crazy. Oh, yeah, Duncan Oh, my yeah, don't know but driving like Rory. I Mean that would be fucking but if you just speeding out of Tiger Woods Yeah, not speeding out of the Tiger Woods obviously. I mean you wouldn't play one round you'd play you'd be like Hank You'd play fucking the whole day of golf. golf yeah what about eating like Joey chestnut that would be cool it'd be cool
Starting point is 01:55:08 it'd be cool for a day be cool to show off for a day max admit it calorie deficit yeah but if you eat that much after the game last night that was like well on uh dude that was on Sunday night football fucking cheesesteak. We had it's like bullshit. That's kind of what happened. Yeah, Sunday. But it's Sunday night fucking Angeles. It's perfect. That's a perfect how you, how you get over it. But Sunday night football, we did actually do our plan. We ordered salads and then the minute the bears went down, I just was like, fuck this. And when eight, like three slices of pizza.
Starting point is 01:55:45 So I saw Max cut the, he said he's only eating one slice of pizza. And then I walked into the kitchen and he was cutting like a sliver, the smallest sliver you've ever seen. That's such a, that's such a fact. I moved that. I love Max. I mean that, that one didn't count. Do you know what move I do?
Starting point is 01:56:03 Max? I rip, I rip the bottom half of the pizza and just eat the crust and a little bit of the cheese and everything and be like, that's not a full size. But if you, but if you do the sliver, then nobody like I got caught cause Hank saw me doing it, but then nobody else knows that you, that you, because if you do the, I have done the half too, like, well I'll throw out the bottom half. Oh, okay. Just toss the bottom half. I've done that too., like. Well, I'll throw out the bottom half. Oh, okay. Yeah, just toss the bottom half and then just eat the top.
Starting point is 01:56:26 I've done that too, just like, I'm just gonna take one bite and throw it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because then you're like, I'm pretty much just eating crust right now. Yeah, it's like not a slice of pizza. I also think that if you eat a slice of pizza super fast, it doesn't affect you the same way.
Starting point is 01:56:36 Yeah, and if you eat standing up, that doesn't count. Yeah, I snuck into the kitchen on Sunday and I was hungry and I was just like, I got in some thing. I saw you doing that. And I ate a shameful slice, but tried to eat it so that nobody would see me then big cat just walked in and looked at me. We need to just listen we're all gonna with a small slice and then Hank saw me. We're all working on it let's all just be in the trust tree. I didn't say anything. No you didn't
Starting point is 01:56:56 say anything. I did not say a word. Me neither. I saw it and I was just like I'm not gonna say a word. It's like the opposite of see something say something. You see something you don't fucking say a word No, I'm happy that Hank said something though, cuz that means like if it happened Like it means I have to be on alert and that maybe I shouldn't do it No, I'm not happy. You should not be shamed especially on a Sunday night. It's hard. We ordered the salads We had great intentions on Sunday night. All right. I still think overall the diets going pretty well I've been living that we got Sunday was terrible. What do you mean terrible? Oh, I still think overall the diets going pretty well. I've been living that we got Sunday was terrible What do you mean terrible? Oh, I guess we got the salads. Yeah, we got salads. I
Starting point is 01:57:29 I've been lifting four times a week Trying hard same I got a chicken cheesesteak in a bowl on Sunday Like just the chicken like the chicken steak and cheese and like lettuce no bread I'm happy for you. That's good. And then you got the real deal last night. Yeah, last night. Fuck yeah. Went to gyms, you know. Alright, numbers.
Starting point is 01:57:53 9. 3. 8. 11. Memes in PFT. You guys ever gotten this? I've never gotten this. Oh, I don't know. Memes and PFT, have you guys ever gotten this? I've never gotten this.
Starting point is 01:58:09 99! Oh, Pug. Damn it, Pug! Damn it! That hurts. That hurts! That would have been what, 6? There's something up with the number 99. It's crazy that it's been picked this many times.
Starting point is 01:58:24 They gave us a report. When we got this machine, there was a report and they had weighed every single ball. And they all weighed within like a 001 decimal of each other. Are we sure there's not another 99 in there right now? I'm pretty sure. I see 98. All right, Pug.
Starting point is 01:58:42 You missed that one. Might have to go back. All right, see you everyone on Friday one. I'd have to go back. All right, see you everyone on Friday. Who just said that? Pug. I love you guys. So So do I'm going to go ahead and get started. I'm going to go ahead and get started. I'm going to go ahead and get started. I'm going to go ahead and get started. I'm going to go ahead and get started. I'm going to go ahead and get started.
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