Pardon My Take - CFB With Ross Dellenger, NBA Trainer Chris Brickley In Studio, Celtics Banner Night, A Bounty For Dunking On Bronny, MNF & Fake Onside Rules + Guys On Chicks

Episode Date: October 23, 2024

Hank is off to see the Celtics raise a banner and we’re expecting Bronny to play and we’ve put a bounty out for anyone who can dunk on both James heads at the same time (00:00:00-00:11:20). We talk Monday Night Football and it turns out the Chargers may have some issues even though Justin Herbert isn’t one of them. The Bucs disaster night, The Ravens are a wagon and fake onside rules confusing everyone (00:11:20-00:30:12). We talk some CFB then do hot seat/cool throne (00:30:12-01:00:22). Yahoo Senior College Football Writer Ross Dellenger joins the show to talk about the scene in Austin Saturday night, the transfer portal flattening competition, a potential super league, Army/Navy and more (01:00:22-01:48:57). NBA trainer Chris Brickley joins us in studio to talk about his path to being a trainer, playing for Rick Pitino, Carmelo trusting him and this is finally the year for Ben Simmons (01:48:57-02:18:56). We finish with guys on chicks (02:18:56-02:30:02).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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Congrats Hank, you did it again. It's been a while since Hank's had a W. So it's good to see your boy back up. It's been almost three months since he's been able to congratulate himself for something. Hank is all dressed in his Celtic green. He's going to Banner night tonight. That's why we're recording early.

Well he's dressed in Celtic black right now. Looks very slim. You look very slimming. I would say Hank is just the man in black though looking like Johnny Cash. Yeah, so Hank we're recording this early So that you can go to banner night fired up. Thank you guys for doing that. You're welcome I was culminating that yeah, I appreciate it and he's not drinking tonight at banner night He said he's not drinking because he's back on that health tip. So I got a 6 a.m. Flight back You know the grind doesn't sleep. We're gonna be here tomorrow 9. You're gonna drink you gonna drink at least five beers. No, no, no. Yes. It was great because Hank is

he's he's trying to struggle with the idea that he's told us for the Hundredth time that he's gonna stop drinking for an extended period of time and the fact that it's banner night And he said to us I'm just trying to soak it all in yeah He's doing that like I I wanna be sober for this. Well, if you wanna phrase it. I don't wanna be sober, I just wanna be a man of my word. I'm trying to have that champion mindset of if you say you're gonna do something, do it.

I think having a 6 a.m. flight helps. I also don't think, I don't need to drink to enjoy the beautiful ceremony. I'm probably gonna cry. Counterpoint, why don't you just not go to sleep? That's not gonna work. That's never worked in the history of my life. It's all the one time we went to Vegas last year for the Super Bowl. I did it. If you want to put it in Miles Garrett, but I had to play blackjack for like

five hours. Miles Garrett would say that for the most part over Hank's career here at part of my take, he's been pretty sober. Yeah, for the most part. Yeah. The all nighter at the end of a bachelor party or like traveling like what we like I'll just not sleep is Oh for a hundred lifetime in terms of good ideas. Yeah, it sounds great in your head and you're like well What's the point of sleeping for three hours when I could just rage for the rest of the night and then you get to the airport and it's Disastrous. I think there is a chance though that Hank He tries to say stay sober because there's a chance he has to meet coach Missoula and he doesn't want to let him down. He doesn't want to disappoint him because

have you seen the interviews that Missoula has been doing recently? He's locked in. He's like, he basically did the Kalashan hand. Like we could all die tomorrow. So who really cares? He's a football guy. Yeah. He's a football guy coaching basketball. Zero, zero, no pressure. We're all going to be dead soon. It really doesn't matter. Yeah. Love that. You're either going to win or you're not. It's incredible. That's how that that made me feel good about dunking. No pressure. It sounds like he's going to kill his team. Yeah, he's like we might be dead. So no pressure. We just have to go out there and execute or I will. Are you going to see coach Missoula tonight? I'll see him. I don't know. I think he might. I think he might. Where are your seats? Second

row behind the Knicks bench. Okay, are you gonna be razzin them? No, I'll be like you gotta do some razzin you got maybe Mikhail Bridges be like hey I'm gonna do it in your might do a little hollering you should do a little little bing bong on them Max don't shake your head at me. Don't shake your fucking head at me Jim Calhoun Mikhail Bridges has a hitch in his shot. It's weird shit have you seen it I have not seen me yeah search it it's very bizarre something happened to his shot and he's got like this it's like a pause it's actually great we're bringing this up bullshit he plays for the next because I hate the next but I'm I want to defend him yeah cuz Chris

Brickley's on this show we should have if we had known he had a hitch in his shot he would we would have asked him how to fix it So banner night congratulations watch this video and tell me it's weird Something mentally has happened also congrats to the Mavs have a banner out of there on they raised a banner for the Western Conference Championship Okay, also congrats to Mavs or congrats to us because we're gonna bully the Mavs and in five to ten years They'll probably send us that banner. That'd be great. Oh Yeah, it's weird. Yeah is weird. It's very strange. Yeah, um Well, it's more I think Western Conference chain. I think the conference. Oh, yeah, it was the it was the finalist

Oh, yeah, it was the Colts making it to the AFC championship But now winning yeah winning a Western conference like if you win it you in a conference championship you deserve some Yeah, this is the this is the argument We had a couple years or a year ago when Mac said you don't raise banners for that and we found all the banners that they Actually raised for that. Yeah. Yeah, but this shot is very strange It's like he takes the ball over to the opposite side of his body and then just throws it across his body. It's very strange, but Banner Knight and then we also, so we are recording this early. We think that Bronnie played tonight, so choose your own adventure. What a cool moment.

Yeah, good for LeBron. That's got to be awesome as a dad. Now, what do you think a stat line is gonna be? Um, I think bad two minutes, one turnover, oh, for two and traveling violation. Oh, a traveling violation. A double dribble would rock. That would be cool. If he just put both hands on the ball, like a like a four year old. Yeah. The coolest part is that Ken Griffey Jr. and senior are going to be at the game. That is cool. That's wild. That is wild. Extremely breaking the wild meter. Right now. That picture will be the most wild picture. They just have wild. They randomly picked that game, right? No, I think they are. I think I guess there was a conversation that if you know, they play together, but uh, I, I, is it bad that I'm rooting? We've had the same, I think we've stayed consistent with

Bronnie. It's very cool for LeBron as a dad, but it's also really weird because he's probably not an NBA player right now. He may become one, but he right now, if, if his name wasn't Bronnie James Jr., he would not be in the NBA and be considered to get minutes tonight. Is it bad that I'm rooting for him to get in have the picture up and then have him just get yammed on? That'd be kind of funny. LeBron would make that video disappear forever from the internet. What if Anthony Edwards dunks on both James at the same time? That would be awesome. You think there's a bounty out there on dunking on Bronnie? If there's one guy who would do it, it's Anthony Edwards. I bet you there might be a bounty out there Yeah, I'm gonna put a bounty out there. If you can dunk on brawny, then I will I pardon my cheese

You get it No, you get an open spot on part of my take and I will sit you can join the show as a guest to discuss The dunk. Okay, and I will send you a part of my cheesesteak. Okay with all the fixes Yeah, and we'll come to your house and and hang out. Yep. Yeah, that's actually a fair deal Pouty enacted. It's what's the worst where it's gonna be it's gonna be the most random player Then we're gonna have to go to their house, but I would still do an interview with that guy I would whoever well and the questions just like what was it like dunking on brawny in front of his dad? Yeah, I want to I want to dunk on both

I Think Hank could yeah. Yeah, here it is. If it go if you dunk on both them at the same time We'll go on vacation with you. Yeah. Yeah a place of whoever this person may be Yep, could be anyone literally anyone who could do it In a game in an NBA game dunking on both James Okay, so yeah, that's our MB. Do you want to do NBA just a quick who's gonna win the title? Nuggets Celtics Sixers how do you not think?

What What it's control. It's control. I mean I I had to. I will. I will pick the sixers. Oh, copycat. Yeah. Were you about to say, how do you not think this else is going to win it again? It's hard to repeat. Yeah. We're just making predictions. We can't. You're on defense mode. Yeah. Yeah. Defending. Not defending the title. Missoula would not. Missoula would want no one to pick this. Yeah You actually your rat poison missoula is probably mad at you right now when he's listening to this He doesn't want you picking the Celtics. You got to earn it again

Yeah, but you expect I have championship like we got it You got to think you're gonna be the champion so that you can become the chain No, no, Missoula's mentality is you haven't done shit yet. Yeah turn the page page. Turn the goddamn page. Yeah, but you got to carry yourself like a change. Like, you know, be what you want to be. Uh, memes. I'm gonna say the Knicks Nick sons final. Okay, Nick's son. Okay, sons are back. That's it. They fixed everything. Dangerous one. Ah, so yeah, we'll do a full NBA preview, what, like February? Yeah, probably. I'd say after the Super Bowl.

Yeah, I get excited. I'll be excited to watch NBA basketball for tonight. And then I'll be like, all right, I'll see you after Christmas. What we'll do is we'll interview Ryan Russo down at the Super Bowl in New Orleans. We'll be hammered. Yeah. And then that will be our NBA preview That'll be our NBA preview. Okay, we should talk some Monday Night Football. We had a doubleheader

What bullshit doubleheader bullshit doubleheader because they did this the second game was I need ESPN plus. Mm-hmm hand up I Thought the Chargers would beat the Cardinals when I got everyone to take them 45 to 1. Yeah, that's the first thing I thought about. Hand up. When actually the game got into being the game and it was very, very clear that the Chargers are a super flawed football team. They are very flawed.

They don't have anybody in the middle. No guys in the middle. Offense or defense. And then they've got no wide receivers. No wide receivers. I feel very bad for Justin Herbert. He was actually very good. He just has no one. Harbaugh has built the entire team out of tight ends and running backs and it's hard to be explosive. Also, I mean, the Chargers kind of low key dominated that game. They had two that the fumble on the goal line was

egregious. That was bad. Yeah, that was egregious. And they had I stand by my take that that's a good rule. Yeah, I like the fumble through the end zone fumble recovered in the end zone for touchback. Yeah. And then and then the they had the the big guy fumble. You got to go down after he would he get a pick? And then he just he just started bumbling down the field. Got the ball punched out, got the ball punched punched out and then the call at the end was Bullshit, I thought where they called

Unnecessary roughness. I think it was the right call. It sucked. I don't know. No, don't get me wrong like the call sucked I was not happy to see it I think most people that are football fans see that play and they're like that play should not determine the outcome of a game That sucks that the referees are involved at that point. But if you look at what the rule is, it's like a million percent the right call. This is going to sound dumb and it's not the health in mind, but I feel like you should just, the guy should have to get knocked out for there being unnecessary roughness. I know what you're saying. Like by the vibe, it didn't look that bad.

It looks nothing. It didn't look, I know there was two angles. The first angle looked like absolutely nothing. The second angle, I saw the helmet helmet, but it just, that to me was just a play where it's like you can't really do anything else. You're trying to break it up and I don't know. It's the case of the NFL having too many rules. So the defensive back was coming in

as Marvin Harrison Jr. was landing. And as as he's landing his head comes down into the path of Where the defensive back is trying to hit him and he hits him with his helmet makes contact with like the face mask area So it was definitely by the rule the way the rules written. It was the right call, but still sucked Yeah, and I thought I was feeling good about the charges too, especially after hard boss quotes from last week Yeah when he was talking about how he went in for his EKG and he had like the whole heart testing thing and they asked him about it and he said, yeah, you know, the doctor was telling me you've got the heart of an athlete.

You've got incredible stamina. And actually the doctor said my heart got stronger from having that incredibly fast heartbeat like twisted blue steel. Harbaugh was feeling good about the fact like he he views his heart rate going up to like 250 beats per minute as just doing a really really really intense cardio workout to you know in heart attack games But I I think that was a stupid Thought to bet on the Chargers to win the Super Bowl. I'm not gonna give up yet I did have this one as a win also

It's very hard Justin Herbert going for 350 yards and no offensive touchdowns That's really hard to do. He has the Dicker show. That's really really hard to do to pass the ball for 350 yards no turnovers and Have no touchdowns. Mm-hmm. Think about that Yes, it's very very like if you think about how long their drives were they just stalled out around the red zone area They just didn't have they didn't they need to get a wide receiver Calvin Ridley. Come on down I will say this though in in that matchup. That was the perfect uniform matchup to be on ESPN plus Yes

Right like that if you have to pick one game to have on that channel and to only be on streaming That's exactly what you would go for. It looked like kind of weird and futuristic. I was okay with it. Yeah. And then in the other game, the Bucks season is officially over. So the Bucks had a night from hell. They lost to the Ravens. They were up. It would, they were about to be up. What was it? 17, seven or 17 to I think it was 17 seven. Baker throws that interception. Mike Evans gets hurt. Chris Godwin gets hurt with a minute left. I know that- Down 10.

What? Down 10. Down 10. People were like, well yeah, you got to play them. I don't know. The season is long. You have a short week. You're going up against Atlanta. I kind of err on the side of just sit your guys and win, win to you know play to fight another day We also had a weird. Did you guys see this? It was a very weird Disinformation campaign that was going on. Yeah that the entire internet Uh somehow thought that you can only kick two onside kicks in the fourth quarter

Yeah, it was we had a google AI problem is what it was like artificial intelligence Fucked us over last night because at the end of the game, I think there were what 51 seconds left on that last last drive It was like a minute and 10 minutes 10 seconds and Godwin gets hurt and then the immediate reaction is why are the starters still in? I understand why Todd Bulls still had his starters and you're down 10 technically Like it'd be weird if Baker just kneeled that out, right? I think he's just throwing the backups and you're like, we got short week for a big division game to a team we already, that's, we're fighting against, they're playing the Falcons on Sunday.

They were fighting against it already beat us. But the thing is like if Todd Bulls had kneeled out, which is the same as putting your starters in. Yeah. Or putting your backups in, right? If you just take a knee, everybody would be like, Todd Bulls quit on this game When you're down by 10 points, technically it's, it's one of those weird, weird like gray areas. They,

it's like 99.999% chance they weren't going to win. They would have to go down the entire field, get a touchdown or a field goal, recover another onsides kick and go down, get another touchdown or a field goal. Here's all that with no timeouts. I think you can go, you can go either way on it Here's where you definitely have to say it's crazy Baker stayed in till there was like five seconds left still running the ball. Yeah. Yeah, that was fucking not the very last play of the game That's crazy. I was like Baker better not get hurt on the scramble. That's that'd be insane

I actually think if you're gonna point your finger at Todd Bowles I think you would point your finger at the fact that he went for two when he was down 17. Yes. So if he had gone for one, he'd be down 16. He's down 16 and then that's two possessions. But you go for two and you make it, who cares? You go for a, and if you don't make it, then you are now in a three possession game. Yeah.

So it makes zero sense that Todd Bowles did that. That's like the first domino that led to all this happening Yep, so that's that's what you should point your finger on for but what happened was everybody was like well Todd Bulls is An idiot for keeping his starters in because you're not allowed to do more than what two on site It's two on three game and because when you searched on Google, you know what the onside kick rule was that's what came up in the AI summary about it. And then you look at the actual rule book and it absolutely says you can do as many onside kick as you want, but it has to be all in the fourth quarter and you have to be behind. You have to be trailing. So what the patient X, patient zero, what is that? Patient zero,

right? Someone wrote an article after the Ravens Cowboys game that said you can only on-site kick twice and then it just became part of... Remember the Cowboys came all the way back in total garbage time? If that's patient X then I think the Wuhan laboratory for this was actually, this was thought about as a proposal for the rule change. It was. And so somebody wrote an article about that like, hey, this might be a rule change that comes and Google when they scrape the internet, they find those two stories.

And then that's why you get that screenshot. Now there is a chance we can't, we can't rule out the fact that Todd Bowles might be getting his information about the NFL rules by Googling and then looking at the first AI screenshot that comes up. So Todd Bowles might have thought about that and forgot it. Yes. So the, it was just very funny because I was, thankfully I was very tired. So I wasn't, I was kind of like half in half out. I was watching the other game and I had both of them up and I was just kind of pay half paying attention to the end of the bucks game because I definitely would've gotten got by the two onside kick. Cause there's nothing better than,

uh, learning a new rule and then pretending like you knew that all along. Yeah and I saw that rule in my first thought was like I had what number one I had no idea that was rule. Same. Number two why the fuck is that a rule? Same. It makes absolutely no sense but the NFL you could see them having that. I was so close to tweeting being like all you idiots saying that Todd Bulls should have kept his starters in learn the rules. I didn't. Yeah. And cause I really, cause there is a satisfaction to be like, I know the rule. You don't. Yeah, I know. Well,

in that instance you would have known the rule before Todd Bulls knew the rule right. And because you read it online during the game. And it also, it was such a stupid rule that I gave pause cause I was like, there's no way this is a real rule. Yeah. That's an insane rule. I ended up reading the entire kickoff section of the rule book last night. I know all the weird shit about kickoff. Yeah, it was it was very weird. So for as for the box, I think they should fire Todd Bowles. Okay, well, Todd Bowles, you're talking about Mayo being a candidate for the gym called Well, is he alive or is he dead? Todd Bowles has been that for years. He's been dead on the sidelines for a long time. He is a blitz guy, right? Big time blitz guy. And I think he was relying a lot on the old Lamar

rule book, which was if you blitz Lamar, you can have success against him. Yes. That might've been a bad piece of information that got tied too closely to Lamar and not closely enough to Greg Roman. Yeah. Greg Roman sucked against the blitz. Yeah. I don't think Lamar and not closely enough to Greg Roman. Yeah. Greg Roman sucked against the Blitz. Yeah. I don't think Lamar sucked against the Blitz. No. Todd Monkin does not suck against the Blitz. No. So I agree. It's Lamar has been incredible. The Ravens. I want to talk about the Ravens, but here's my here's my thought for firing Todd Bowles. Their defense is bad. Chris Godwin is now out for the year. Mike Evans might be out for an extended period of time. Liam Cohn, their offensive coordinator is seemingly

a very good offensive coordinator because their offense has been lights out. If you want to keep him, you should make him that coach right now. That's actually not a bad point. Just because like Todd Bulls is what he is. I don't it's He is what he is. He's not gonna change. There's nothing There's nothing new that Todd Bulls is gonna do where he's gonna be like man. Now we have a huge coaching advantage Yeah He does have a chance to earn his coaching job back though if the Bucks surprise everybody and dealing with all the injuries that they are

They end up making some noise in that division. Yeah, their defense is bad though right now and I know they've been banged up but I would would, I would do, I would make it's a, it's a tricky thing to do. But if, if you don't think you're going to lose the locker room, you could make that switch this season and then be like, Liam Cohen, you, you now have the job going forward. Maybe after the season's over. Maybe, but I just, I, I wouldn't let Liam Cohen out the door and keep Todd Bowles after the season is over. Yeah. It all depends. if you think that Liam Cohen could be a good head coach at some point then that's probably move You should think about yeah, the Ravens are an absolute juggernaut I think they're actually getting closer to the territory of they could actually maybe beat the Chiefs. Yeah

They've got it all they've got all Marc Andrews catching touchdowns every week now and Derek Henry is as fast as he's ever been, which is crazy because he said that he was slow as fuck this season. And then I think he had his fifth fastest run. It was perfect timing to on the broadcast or like where they're like, where's Derek Henry tonight? And he ripped off like a 70 yard run. How pumped do you think Troy Aikman is for game day to be in Bloomington? Oh, so he should be the guest picker, right? He should absolutely be the guest picker. Make that happen. Those are his Hoosiers. But yeah, the Ravens Lamar is

playing yet again at an MVP level. He might win MVP again. I got him 18 to one. Yeah, that's that's sick. He's I mean, he's he's just been awesome. The Ravens have been awesome. And it feels like as long as they stay healthy, which is always something to say for the Ravens. They are one of the best teams in the NFL probably in the list of It's probably Chiefs Lions Ravens right now in terms of that upper echelon Yeah

No The Ravens are are awesome and Lamar is throwing the ball better than he ever has. Yeah dot talk dot talk There was dot talk. He's throwing bombs. He's got a nice little touch on his ball. Yeah Lamar it when bombs he's got a nice little touch on his ball. Yeah, Lamar it large has so he just has to win a Super Bowl and then it's just he's solidified. He's a surefire Hall of Famer. Yeah, I think he probably already is. Yeah, because he's well, no, I think he has to win a Super Bowl to get to get to the Hall of Fame. So I think he's got to win a Super Bowl. I

don't know. I don't think he's got to win a Super Bowl. Got to win a Super Bowl. I don't know the record of most touchdowns that interception on Monday football is pretty, that's pretty and he's also 23 and one only lost to Daniel Jones. He's in the the NFC Hall of Fame. Yeah, easily dominates the NFC. Okay, anything else from Oh, the we did have Ed Reed on the manning cast. That was weird.

Yeah, talking about concussions. And I don't think Ed Reed was necessarily wrong when he was talking about boxers and strengthening their necks. So basically what he said was, I don't know if the guardian cap is making a difference. Yeah. And then he broke down how boxers strengthen up their neck muscles because you get the snap and the nerve hits in your neck. And then Peyton and Eli were just like staring at the TV like, please for the love of God, something happened. They were like, oh, there's saying like that's why that's why you don't. That's why boxers, the head gear is like fake. Yeah. He was protection.

Yeah. That's true. He was saying that the guardian cap is fake protection. The thing is true where like you think you have protection. So you're more likely to keep your hands down and take more hits to the head. Yeah. But I don't know if that same thing applies for the, I think, I don't, I don't have any research whatsoever on the guardian cap. We do have a fat head of the guardian cap that's up in the, uh, the producers booth right now, which is awesome. But I,

the guardian cap to me seems like it was put in place to reduce like the number of sub concussive hits that you're taking during practice. Yeah. So like the small hits that don't actually give you concussion, they're trying to dull some of those. And then the argument could be made from like a legal standpoint. If you're the NFL, why are you letting players protect themselves in practice, but not in games? So that the NFL had to be like, yeah, you can wear these ugly caps during games if

you want, thereby putting it back on the players to accept or say, no, we're not going to. Yes. So to is he said that he's not going to wear when he comes back because he said we don't, we all take risks when we drive to work every day. We take a risk. I don't know if he's talking about Tyree kill or not. Yeah. Situation or Athens, Georgia. Yeah, possibly. But, uh, it felt to me like Tua was just saying like, they look stupid. So I'm not going to wear one. Yeah, I don't. Um, even if it helps a 1% even if it makes your wife feel like it's safer.

I think you wear it. It makes me feel safer when I watched to if he was wearing a guardian cap. It's like when I wear a shirt to bed because I'm like if I ever had to get into a fight or like a knife fight with an intruder, having a shirt on would help me. Not really, but it would, it makes me feel that way. Yeah. By the way, I looked it up. Lamar is a 69.13 on the hall of fame monitor on pro football reference. So if he keeps playing, you probably make it in. If he gets Superbowl, he jump up big time. I love that they have stats. Yeah. They're like quantified. And at the end of the day, they're

relying on a bunch of fat old sports writers in a room talking to each other But it's I mean the average Hall of Fame honors a hundred and eight points and Matt Ryan is a hundred and six and Rathaus Burgers a hundred and Philip Rivers is 98. I don't know. I don't know if all three of them I think Philip Rivers should get in but I don't know he is to me based on vibes. He's a whole family Yeah, you but you do agree Lamar Jackson even going to a Super Bowl would make it almost a slam dunk Yeah, he probably would get it anyway, because it probably keep winning MVP. I'm not saying if Lamar retired right now Yeah in the Hall of Fame, but I'm saying the way that he's played. Oh, it's been incredible if this keeps up Yeah, like anywhere close to what he's been then. Yeah, he's the whole if he wins another MVP

Then he's even not going to Super Bowl. Yeah, be the Hall of Famer. So yeah, two not wearing that. What else? Oh, Hank, did you want to talk at all about Belichick basically? Yeah, that was on my Hot Seat Cool Throne. Okay, we'll save it. We'll save it. No, no, we'll save it. We'll save it. We'll save it for Hot Seat Cool Throne. We also had Jameson Williams suspension. So two games. That's a pretty light suspension, isn't it? Yeah, what did he what did he have? What do you do? PES is what Schefter said performance enhancing substance. I wonder what it was.

To me that's that doesn't feel like it's isn't it usually four games if it's like a drug if you're on steroids? Yeah, and what is like a shake or something? A shake me. Yeah, and what there's like a shake or something a shake me. Okay galaxy gas What is that? just whippets that they just slapped a Tag on like they it's new age whippets and they sell it and they just said hey, it's galaxy galaxy gas Now all the kids are like, oh, this is awesome. It's like yeah, we used to just do it with whipped cream

Is that the kind of worse than whippets is it? Yeah We used to just do it with whipped cream. Is that the kind of worse than with it? Is it? Yeah Look at what the packaging looks like. It looks like candy We shouldn't bash it too much because it could end up being a sponsor and also we've never tried it. Yeah That's a cool throw brought to you by Galaxy gas Those buttholes I'm not ruling it out. Is it legal? No, no, it is legal because it's it is technically meant for like making whipped cream, but they Actually trying to sell it as with oh, yes, maybe it's on the galaxy gas It's like very controversial because it's like very appealing to children. It's very bad for your brain. Horrible. Yeah. He might have been on Viagra. Yeah could be. Ocho

Cinco used to say he would take Viagra sometimes and he knew a lot of NFL players that did it. Yeah maybe that's what it is but either way Jameson Williams I I do think that he should appeal it and wait because they play on Thanksgiving so just wait and do it the week before Thanksgiving and then you only miss five games. Just five days. He said he's going to try to get back to the team and contribute ASAP as possible. No, what do you say ASAP soon as possible? Which is great. Yeah, it's great. That's very, very, that's a very fast return. That's very fast return. But yeah, do appeal that and wait till then you only miss five days. Wouldn't that

make the most sense? Yeah, I don't know who they play on Thanksgiving, though. So we'd have to check the schedule. So us the Bears. Oh, that's weird. Yeah, but it does fit. You know, that's the least amount of time that I'm looking out for James and William, if he's trying to get back ASAP soon as possible. He would do it in five days. Five days is ASAP soon as possible. He takes his suspension Sunday morning at 11.59.

His suspension is over on Thursday at like three o'clock. Yeah, and you get to have Thanksgiving with your family. Right, just think about it. Okay, should we talk a little college football? We have a lot more college football with Ross Dallinger. I wanted to start though, Texas got their welcome to the SEC moment. And it was tough for Texas. I saw a couple funny things. One, Georgia's defensive line was incredible. They just bullied him all night. Even had Sark doing the panic, let's hit the arch button, which didn't do any

That was a weird arch button to hit. Really weird. Well, he was in for two drives, I think. And then they sent yours back out there once it was clear that that yours was not the problem. But it felt to me like if you put arch and you got to stick with arch, yeah, you've made a decision that's gotta be weird for yours going back in they did that picture of the two of them sitting on the sideline both having the manning face I don't think either one of them was happy with it no no like is it because you had arch going in getting his ass kicked and struggling against a really good defense he's like fuck this sucks then you have viewers on the side line being like fuck this sucks I just lost my job yeah so you managed to alienate both of your quarterbacks at once yeah it felt like a panic move I don't think Texas is completely out of it, but that definitely was like a big boy test that they failed. Yeah, I have a take about the bottle incident about the fans throwing stuff. And we talked to Ross

about this a little bit later. I kind of liked it. I kind of liked it a lot. Yeah. Because I root for chaos. I love I love watching weird chaotic shit on my television on Saturday when I watched college football I want to see weird stuff happen and having the entire student section throw bottles. They didn't hit anybody. They weren't throwing out players Nobody was in danger. I'm sure someone got hit maybe but it was A bunch of people on the sidelines. I don't think that they were targeting players with it They were pissed off with throwing bottles on all the like cheerleaders media. Yeah, I'd be voe Maybe be voe got hit with something. Oh, I think good

Life on at least one person getting hit with a water bottle good thing. I'll get didn't make the trip They said he's bad on airplanes. So they didn't bring them if I'll get makes a road trip I want the opposing fans to have like bring tennis balls to the game Yeah, and then throw them down to the field next to again watch them go nuts Yeah, but I I liked it because it was fucking crazy and it was stupid and the refs getting together I don't know if they were bullied into changing their call I don't know if one of them snuck a quick look up at the video board and saw oh, hey, we really fucked this up Yeah, I don't know what happened

but the fact of the matter was there's like a five minute delay the refs changed their mind about it gave Texas the ball and as as a neutral party that doesn't root for either team, I like, I did put money on Texas to win the championship at the start of the year, but I'm not a Texas fan. I have no skin in that game. As a neutral party watching it, I was like, this is cool. College football is better when weird shit like this happens. And then I saw all the talking heads later being like,

this was an ugly scene, this is bad for the sports. It's a black eye on Texas. It's a black eye on the SEC No when Tennessee did it and they threw mustard bottles on the field. I was like, that's cool. Yeah, you don't want to see it every game but There is something about college football that it's it's the closest that we can get to like European soccer culture Yeah It's not like this is Brazil where you've got fans running on the field trying to murder the ref or stabbing each other. And don't get me wrong, like, you shouldn't do it.

You shouldn't throw stuff on the field, but I liked it. Matthew McConaughey had to release a, it's not a notes app, because it looks, it's not actually on the notes app, but it essentially is. He said Longhorn Nation, specifically our DKR student section, M.O.C. McConaughey coming at you here.

First off, you were electric Saturday night, yada yada yada, but let's get real about the bottle bombing, the field, what is it, all right, but let's get real about the bottle bombing, the field glitch we had. Not cool, bogey move. Yeah, that call was BS, but we're better than that. Longhorn Nation knows how to show up, show out like no other and still keep our class. Oh, we dropped the class. You can't do the class. So going forward, let's clean that kind of

BS up and leave that behind us for good. We have to shake hands on that. I don't like that from Conohay. I don't like that. I'm gonna kind of hate more than anybody should know he gets older college kids Stay the same age. They're always gonna fuck around like this is what college kids do I like bogey move and bogey move is a good move. Yeah, that's a good good phrase we also I saw a very funny clip of a Texas fan who someone was peering over him and he was texting and he was Texting a friend during the game and he was happened to be seated in the Georgia's like section fan section and

his text is I'm in the middle of the Georgia fans man the barking is overwhelming yeah welcome to the SEC bro yeah you're getting barked at man yeah Mississippi State comes to town that's gonna be a weird scene too with the cowbells invading Austin. Yeah. Yeah. It was a big time welcome to the SEC moment for Texas. And now they're, I think part of the punishment is Texas has to try to find the fans that threw that shit and then get them kicked out of games and banned from the stadium forever. Boom.

That's bad. Don't do that. How many, how many, how many feds were in the crowd inciting that riot? That's what I want to know. That's a good question. You know what? That one kid, you remember the kid with the big ass hair that was in the front row? That's a fed. That's what I want to know. It's a good question. You know what that one kid, you remember the kid with the big ass hair that was in the front row? That's a fed.

That was a fed. You know what they could do is just have the refs now fuck up calls. Think about that. It was a very bad call. In terms of this season, which has been great, we have, so we get the army-navy game in the conference championship. We talked to Ross about all the iterations of Army Navy. They are now both obviously ranked just rolling everyone. We have the first big test for Navy this week playing against Notre Dame. But some of the other stories, the UNLV Boise game on Friday night is going to be incredible. I'm very excited for that.

And BYU with their quarterback, BYU, has been one of the best stories in college football this year. And they are now still undefeated, barely get by Oklahoma State and seven and oh, and it's just, I don't know, this, this season has been so much fun. Iowa State's really good in the big 12. And we still have just massive, massive games coming up like LSU and Texas A&M is basically an elimination game Both undefeated in the SEC right? Both undefeated in the SEC they both took non-conference losses week one It's just I don't know

I I've I have enjoyed thoroughly this college football season and I know that There have been people who said the regular season doesn't matter as much I have not watched a single big-time game whether that be Georgia, Texas, Georgia, Alabama Oregon, Ohio State any of these games and thought to myself while watching it, well, this is lame because we're going to see them play again. The only shitty thing that could happen and there should be a rule against this is you should not be allowed in the 12 team playoff if you have three losses. If you have that that might happen though. Yeah. Yeah. But I think what they what happens if there's what they should do if you have three losses

And you're like say Alabama loses another game. Yeah, then I feel like you need to take an undefeated team That's maybe in a group of five conference and put them in instead of a power four team with three losses Yeah, there's three strikes Yeah I think it's it's obviously gonna happen cuz it would suck if a team with three losses gets in the playoffs And then they win the national championship that would be bad. It depends on the three losses though I don't know if you find them if they win a national championship playing a road game and then three other playoff games They're deserve it

I think it would give a lot of credence to people that are saying that the playoff playoff games, they're deserving. I think it would give a lot of credence to people that are saying that the playoff diminishes the regular season. You, you couldn't argue with that person where you say, yes, you're a hundred percent correct. It does diminish it. Yeah, it diminishes a little bit, but I still would want to be, I want to get the best national champion. And if that team goes and rolls four games, it would be hard to argue against them.

If it's in 12, I think if it's three strikes, you're out. I don't want to see you. That's it. Yeah. That's that there Yeah, that's that. There could definitely be a three loss SEC team that gets into the playoff. Indiana also is incredible story. They're seven to know they absolutely steamrolled Nebraska. I was there at Bloomington on Saturday.

It was so much fun. And they Indiana. As long as they their only loss is Ohio State. They should be in. Yeah, they should be. And if they lose another one, they probably going to be in a lot of trouble because of their strength of schedule. But run the table other than Ohio State and you're probably in

I like what what signetti is doing too. And if you don't know much about Kirk signetti, he's from Google. Yeah, Google them. Look them up. And all he does is when he's from the Nick Saban coaching tree. So he coached at Alabama right when they were turning things around. He was down there with Nick Saban. He operates moves, looks sometimes a lot like Nick Saban. He's always pissed off. Like he was screaming at his players in the fourth quarter because they were only up by 40 points. So, uh, he is a very intense football coach.

He gets results and he's doing it. His team is like the group of a group of five all stars right now. Yeah, a bunch of transfers that were awesome at smaller schools. And he just brought them in. He's like, okay, we're going to make Indiana football good because I know that you guys have proven that you can play Curtis work Maxine legend Maxine Ohio, right? Yeah, Bobcat. Yeah. And I think he's got his thumb. He's got like 12 guys from JMU. Yeah, his thumb, he's probably not gonna be playing next week, right? He's not playing this week against Washington at home,

but their backup's actually not bad. He's, fuck, wait, I got it somewhere. Oh, he's Trace Jackson Davis' brother. Kind of fun wrinkle, isn't that wild? Trace Jackson Davis, IU legend in basketball. He's probably not gonna play this week. I would think they need him back for Michigan State because that's not the easiest game. That's not a rollover game. Michigan State, their quarterback has looked pretty good. And that's the one that

you have to win. You have to win that game. Yeah, because there are other games. I mean, their schedule has been soft, but guess what? Don't apologize. If you are a... They're blowing people out. Yeah, if you're an Indiana Hoosier fan Don't let don't let anyone make you feel bad for kicking the shit out of bad team. You think there's anybody at Alabama That's like we should have hired sig. Oh That's good question. I think there are I think they're losing their patience with the bore. Yeah, they might be Yeah, Michigan State is playing Michigan this week in Michigan State They've they have three losses, but they were two of them were to Ohio State in Oregon, which everyone would probably lose those. Yes.

Okay, anything else with college football? I'm excited for that Friday night game. Boise, UNLV. They could play again, though, too., we might get a double for that. But Army, Navy, I want Navy to... I want one of them to finish the season undefeated. It would be so, so much fun. So much fun. Okay, let's do Hot Seat Cool Throne, Hank. You ready? I'm ready.

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Get Coors Light delivered straight to your door visit course like comm slash take Hank my hot seat is drawn male oh why yes he came out he called the Patriots soft so they're playing soft and then Bill Belichick on his appearance with McAfee when asked about it said it it's a lot of the same players from last year I'm kind of hurt for those guys because to call them soft they are not soft they were the best team in the league last year against the run I feel bad for the defensive players on that one so this is bad there's got to be a lot of dissension in the locker room. And it's tough. Hella checks got to be

loving this. And there's there's some there's some videos, you know, now the the Patriots, like, you know, Twitter accounts and die hard, whatever Stan accounts are finding videos from, you know, the preseason when they said it's going to be a looser locker room, there's players running bikes around the locker room, there was mini hoops set up and it's just a bad mini hoops. It's a bad look. You guys got turned to basketball team. Wow. It's a bad look. And Belichick is so he also loves loving it. He's loving it. He went on Tom Brady's podcast. Yeah. I said

the exact same thing. I just, I just saw that clip. Is it the same club? I was going to play it, but it's the exact, he he literally was like we were number one against the run Last year there were four and thirty Great step, but he he's right if you if you had to pick What what is the what is the statistic to point to just to prove that you're not soft? It's running the football and stopping the run That's gotta be that's a fact like an extra level of hell for Patriots fans to hear Tom Brady and Belichick talking about their current team. I was shocked that he went on Tom Brady's podcast.

Like is it full? I guess it's fully. There was never there was they've never said there was beef. I mean, heck, there was beef. There was a million percent beef in Tom Brady's last couple of seasons. I think I think they probably realized like, hey, this is all craft. No, no, no, no. No, I think there was I think they had a

very good Marriage that got to an end where it was like we've been doing this for 20 years together You the little things bother you from the other person and that's the breakup So I don't think it was maybe it's like now that we're not together Yeah, no, you realize yeah. Yeah, we're good. Yeah, right. I don't think it was kids They got six Super Bowl kids like they're like Oh, yeah, our kids are great. Yeah, I don't think it was ever one thing that one person did the other that was like I cannot believe you did this it was just a

Years and years of little things that annoyed them that they had to break up and now they're fine together. Yeah. Yeah, it was beef Beef is an over like beef. I don't think is the correct term for it. No, there was- it was like- It was definitely beef. There was 100% beef! And I think the beef might have been- it might have been more one-sided. Like Tom Brady definitely at the end was like, I'm sick of getting cussed out by Belichick every day and him treating me like I'm a rookie.

And Belichick was like, this is just what I've been doing my entire life. Yeah. Right, and the trainer stuff, but like I don't think it was Belichick and Brady. I guess there was a little bit of beef, but like- There was of beef. Come on. It's okay to say there was some beef. There's no beef anymore. There's beef still between Brady or sorry, Kraft and Belichick. And now, but they took a shot together. That's true. Belichick is, I mean, this has to feel like the greatest feeling to watch like the guy, the team that the guy took your job, the team that fired you, and then them falling off a cliff and you should be like, look,

number one against the run. There was also funny. They were four and 13. There was reports are like an article that was written where everyone in the organization last year knew that Mayo was next up because like he was missing meetings with the team because he was meeting with craft. So like that's definitely Belichick is is loving this did Belichick go on Tom Brady's show live from the corn maze you see that report no there was a i think it was the new york post and the headline was like bill Belichick visits corn maze with his 24 year old girlfriend that was built in his honor oh he's crushing they made they made a bill Belichick themed corn maze that he that he took his girlfriend to on a date which rocks Hell yes. Yeah, he's loving life. I still think he wants to coach and I think he wants that record

For sure, but like he's yeah, he's Enjoying he's enjoying the off time. Yeah, he was also enjoying just talking about Ed Reed last night Yeah, he had reasons favorite player that man loves that loves Ed Reed is his favorite player. I'd love to coach you one day Okay Then my cool throne Jalen Brown Joe Mazzola More I guess my other hot see was unnamed sources. Oh Jalen Brown Because the remember Stephen a last year had a report about unnamed sources saying people don't like Jalen Brown He's too like basically said all this stuff that was lies and he said it was an unnamed sources saying people don't like Jalen Brown. He's too like, basically

said all this stuff that was lies and he said it was an unnamed source. That's why Jalen Brown at the parade or the state your source shirt. He went on Stephen A's podcast and basically just was like, I think it's bullshit. The unnamed source thing is bullshit. It's cowardice and Stephen A was the unnamed source. Yeah. But Jalen Brown is basically went on his podcast and said how much of a coward move it is for the unnamed source. Yeah, but Jalen Brownage basically went on his podcast and said how much of a coward move It is for the unnamed source to do that to Stephen a's face You would never put things out on this podcast with an unnamed source. That's the difference between you and I know no No, he has ever walls walls. Yeah, the walls walls has a name. He is not

Yeah, I can't control the walls. Yeah These walls talk I would never report that and say it was an unnamed source. I did not report that. Ryan Whitney reported it and the walls report. Yeah. The walls told Ryan Whitney. Yeah. Thank God. Cause nothing's happened and it looks like he's coming back. Yeah. Everyone blame. He probably doesn't even remember that this is even coming back. He might gearingaring up which they also said he was gearing up before they reported he had double Achilles tendonitis or whatever. So Who knows the walls might be right? but if they're not I

Will not feel bad about it because I didn't say anything if they have a name if Christian McCaffrey comes back in the in the Niners Don't lose another game, he should win MVP. Because they're so broken. Yeah, he's he basically there. It's memes hitting the the the fire the coach button Hassan Reddick button. Devante Adams Christian McCaffrey has to be all the but did you see what happened? Debo. So Debo's in the hospital right now.

He has pneumonia. So he's got fluid in his lungs. That's why he didn't play last week. He tried to play and they're like he's get an unspecified illness. Everybody was like, oh Deebo soft Deebo soft He had fucking pneumonia. Yeah, and he's currently hospitalized. It's crazy. I hope he's okay But yeah, the the 49ers are missing every single weapon It's it's bad memes by the way, our good friend Tom Frinelli had a very funny tweet You want me to tell it to you? You can maybe call him Tom Florio

Yeah, he me hear it. He said the Jets are just a Randall Cobb trade away from being good. That's pretty good, huh? Tom hates the Jets. Are you thinking about- Isn't he a free agent? I think he's retired, but yeah.

It was a joke about how basically the Jets every single week are like, this will fix everything. It's a bad tweet. They could just sign random cards. Memes just keeps going around the office saying 12 and 5. 12 and 5? That they're going to win every other game. Yeah, but now that the Chargers lost 11 and 6. 11? What? 11 and 6 gets you in? Yeah, 11 and 6. Wait, I don't know if your mic is on, Max. Is it? So Mem the playoff machine where he's like the Chargers having another loss means that we can go 11 and

6 make the playoffs yeah, he's just walking so it's 11 and 6 or is it 12 and fine now. It's 11 at 6 What do you say to this max? I mean he's I? Just want you to get it. I just want you to get shot and put out of your misery Like I just can't it's every week. He just comes in he's like they're gonna win every other every game, and then it's just Absolute devastation because he truly thinks that the yeah jets will win every game the rest of the year I love looking at the booth now. You guys are just We need to put up. Maybe I wouldn't mind maybe the Pink Floyd ass poster Yeah, because you guys really are like, oh yeah, we're 13 year olds bedroom Yeah, let's get that picture maybe the two girls kissing ninja turners pizza

Boondock no, we're 13. We're getting we're starting to feel some things Yeah, we should just slowly start taking down the sports stuff and putting up chicks. Yeah The booth has hit puberty the stuff and putting up chicks. Yeah. The booth has hit puberty. The the Belushi College picture. Yeah. Well, that'll be a little bit later. Yeah. Yeah. Bob Marley at some point. Bob Marley. No, that's never in a college dorm.

Never. Never. Remember? Remember the Mount Rushmore? Oh, right, right, right. Yeah. We had one where it was I think about did you ever think do you ever have a moment where you just think about your like 21 year old self or 18 year old self Just like man. I was a douchebag, but we had one in our apartment. That was it was just a chick Spread eagle like crawling out of the ocean and or just her ass. Yeah, that's good stuff That's good stuff. Yeah, the pink boy put the whole it put the whole room together

My roommate had the Pink Floyd album cover ass picture and he didn't ever listen to Pink Floyd. Yeah, he couldn't name a single song He's just like it's asses. It's asses. Yeah that place What are you saying Hank? That was it Yeah, Jalen Browns is maybe the smartest person alive. Oh Wow, he's very very intelligent very well spoken. It's a great interview. Do you have a cool throw? My cool throw was Missoula but we talked about that and just me dunking because of the quote Missoula had when he was asked about repeating said zero there's no pressure we're all gonna be dead soon and it really doesn't matter. Mm-hmm. So that made me feel a lot better just about

everything. Maybe when when Missoula comes to Chicago, Chicago to play the Bulls, he chokes you out and we get one of those stories. You ever hear those ran? Everyone knows it's, it's usually, uh, not real, but like all friend of a friend. Like they, they got, they were drowning for like a minute and then they came to and they spoke fluent Spanish, like shit like that maybe that will happen to you he chokes you out you lose consciousness then you can dunk I'm down more of your bloods going to your leg muscles at that point we who is the

guy max we met a guy at a towel remember that guy who had a cane he was like I got in a car accident afterwards I was in a coma for like 30 days and I came out speaking Spanish do you remember that that guy? I do. Yeah. Those stories are always crazy. I read one about a guy that had a stroke and then he could play the piano perfectly. Yeah. And he never played an instrument. That I think is what we have to do. He's got to choke you out and hope that you can just dunk after. But isn't him saying like we could all be dead tomorrow? Doesn't that make it, it doesn't make it more likely that you're gonna be able to dunk. It just

makes it more, it makes it easier for you to accept not dunking yeah yeah there's zero pressure so either way like mentally you're in a better spot yeah there's zero pressure okay we're about the money aspect though zero pressure money's not real no money's not real nothing's real yeah if you die tomorrow who cares if you have money or don't have money that's pretty fucking deep do you think that when we die people will still listen to the show like old episodes? Yeah, you think the age like you can go back I hope so maybe they'll get better like when an artist dies and their paintings are worth so much more

I think about that every now and then like when I die Hopefully many many years from now like my kids will be able to just pull me up all the time At that point kind of a weird feeling you'll be able to just pull me up all the time. At that point, kind of a weird feeling, you'll be able to use AI and get get daddy's take on what just happened to the Bears game. Yeah, it's just I don't know. It's a weird thought. Hot Seat Kool Thru on PFT. My hot seat is NHL merch.

Oh, because the NHL has just announced a partnership with fanatics and Lululemon combined to sell NHL stuff. And I was thinking when I saw this, this, this would be a real shame if they had the same issue that the MLB pants had with fanatics. Yes. Lululemon had that. Yes. It would be a real shame and we should not hope for that. I agree. And then my cool throne is number one bots on Twitter. You don't want it. It'd be a real shame. It would be, it shame if Lulu Lemon had the Major League Baseball pants issue. Nobody wants to see that, right?

No. Be gross. Asses. For the love of God, please no. Get it, Hank? I do, yeah. I thought, yeah. The pants are the most comfortable, some of the most comfortable sweatpants out there.

Besides Robak. Yeah. Robak's number one My cool throne is bots on twitter because they're fucking everywhere. It's it's crazy fucking everywhere Yeah, it's they're fucking everywhere. You have both you have like multiple everywhere fucking you have so many different types of bot accounts And they all are reply guys and they all come up within the first like Half second of any major account that tweets something you got the porn porn bots, the only fans bots, then you have the gambling bots. Then you've got the bots that have like a Pakistani flag as one of their emojis

and they all reply me and they're getting better. You're yeah. The bots that just repeat your tweet back to you. Yeah. They paraphrase and, but they're getting better. It's kind of crazy how fast they're able to do it now. Are you, do you guys block them? I just block them. I don't think it helps. I don't think it helps at all. But if I see like there's three tweets from the same account underneath, I just block it. But I don't think it helps at all. But it's gotten like it's way worse than it's ever been. Oh, yeah. And there's a theory is called the dead internet theory. Have you heard about that? No, it's a theory that like

starting in 2016 or so, most of the internet became populated by bots. And so like half of everything that you see is not written by a person. It's written by like a software program script. I don't think it's that much. But on Twitter, excuse me, X X.com, the everything app, it's all happening on X. It feels like it's, it's at a level that I've never seen before. Yeah. And I don't block them because I want to, I want to know what the bots are up to.

Yeah, I block them. I don't think it does anything. I want to keep an eye on them. Yeah, because they just create. There's like one button that they press, and boom, million new bots. Yeah. All right, my hot seat is Jersey Jerry, our friend Jersey Jerry. This came from Nicky G. Listener.

He tweeted this at me. He thinks he found Jerry's Reddit account. So the little Wednesday reading real quick if I can. This is from 1400 Totem Pole. They wrote, I'm not gay, but I want to live in a log cabin with Russell Wilson. We won't ever have sex, but there will be a simmering erotic undercurrent as I stand in the kitchen window watching him tighten his ass as he chops wood shirtless sweat pouring off his body. I'll run upstairs and masturbate the entire time forcing myself to think of women while my thoughts drift back to Russell. I won't

be able to climax and eventually I'll go back downstairs angry. Sometimes we will look across the table and catch each other's eyes and in that second anything is possible but we both deny ourselves and go back to what we were doing. One day one of us will die and the other will Bury him outside the log cabin Then he'll go inside pen a brief missive to his parted friend and commit suicide Never able to deal with life without his one true platonic love. This is literally this is that episode of the last of us It's great. If you've ever seen that this is the last of Russ. Yeah. Like this is what they're doing right now. That that might be Jersey Jerry. Yeah. So thanks to Nikki G for

pointing this out to me. It's Jersey Jerry. I'm not going to tweet about it until the show comes out. But it is like that was one I saw it yesterday and I bookmarked it. I was like, I'll bring this up. And then we have to be like, Jerry, what's going on, dude? Yeah. I mean, it does. The only thing is the writing style doesn't necessarily match. Yes. It's actually put together nicely I don't think that Jersey Jerry knows the word erotic. I don't think he knows how to write. Yeah It's all speech to text interstitial fun fact about Jersey Jerry. He doesn't have a computer How he doesn't have a computer? I feel like that might be a trend though. We I was like we're all given I'm saying like there's probably more younger people that don't have computers. He he's not young

I know and he also just doesn't cuz I he he kind of is yeah. He is a little bit. He's like 28 Yeah, 29. He uh Yeah, I said something to him like have you ever blogged? He's like, I don't have a computer So maybe he just did on his phone my cool thrown I have two one is the Las Vegas Raiders because they fixed their quarterback room, you know, Connell's hurt and Spencer or sorry Desmond Ritter is now a Las Vegas Raider. Okay, good. So That will solve everything. What was their plan going into the season? That's still mystifying. Pray. It's like Gardner Mentsch, you maybe. Yeah,

pray. And then my other cool throne is Minnesota Sports because they recreated the old Randy Moss KG picture with Anthony Edwards and Justin Jefferson. And I know Minnesota Sports are sad state, don't win things, but they might have like the coolest collection of athletes in the last 20 years, like compared to anyone else. Yeah. And also Anthony Edwards said that he wanted to play in the NFL after a couple more seasons in the NBA. Sure.

Yeah. Yeah. Think about it though. They had KG, they had Randy Moss, they have Anthony Edwards, they have Justin Jefferson, they had Joe Maurer. Yeah. Very cool. The coolest, coolest athletes Justin Jefferson, they had Joe Mauer. Yeah, very cool. The coolest, coolest athletes. He's awesome, he's bad.

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He covers college football for Yahoo. It is Ross Dellinger. You can also hear him on the College Football Inquirer. Great podcast with Dan Wessel and Pat 40 Ross. First of all, thank you for joining us. You're going to help us get navigate this crazy college football season. I want to start though.

You were in Austin on Saturday night for Texas, Georgia. Have you in all your years of covering college football seen a scene like that where water bottles throwing on the field weirdly maybe helped a call get overturned for the Texas Longhorns even though they fell short and got absolutely killed by Georgia? Huh. Never. Never. In 20-ish years or so of covering college football.

And honestly, high school football and pro football, I've never seen that. I've never seen a call announced to a crowd and then the ball be marked and then there'd be some kind of pause in play and then the call is reversed. Usually you see the officials confer in before an announcement and before marking the ball and then to, you know,

to overturn a call. You don't see it announced, marked, and then overturned. So that that was the first for me in a while. And then it just added forever. And then it just added a lot of drama, right with the with the stuff being thrown in the field and the fact that there was a five minute pause probably in the game to clean up the water and beer bottles and everything else that was thrown out there. And during that pause, basically the officials,

that's when they conferred. So the suggestion is if bottles aren't thrown in the field and they don't have that pause, they don't confer Georgia snaps the ball and keeps possession instead of Texas getting possession. It was wild. And you can imagine I was on the field after the game in the Georgia. Administrators were down there, the Georgia president in the Georgia athletic director.

And let me tell you, they were not too happy. Greg Sankey was down on the field too. And the Georgia president had a conversation with him. I can imagine what was said, but they weren't happy. Yeah, yeah. It was a crazy moment. Maybe Greg Abbott changes his mind about student protests. It feels like that benefited him this time. And when it happened, my understanding of the process was that the officials got together and the official that threw the flag said, hey, my bad, I've had a couple of minutes to think about it. And I think I told you that the wrong guy committed the penalty. It was actually on the offense why I threw the flag.

And then that was the explanation for why it was overturned. Is that what they're going with? That's right. Yeah. That's the, the SEC released a statement basically saying the, the the calling the official who called the foul acknowledged that he erred in his judgment and he meant to call and Kirby Spark told us this afterward too he meant to call offensive pass interference basically on on the Georgia player not defensive And if you watch the replay of the play,

you can see that just the way the guys were positioned, like the players, the offensive player was actually more in a role, like trailing the play. You would more normally see a DB trail the play. So I do wonder if the official actually did get confused there and called the wrong player, called the wrong foul and then thought about it while the trash was being thrown in the field, right? And then conferred and changed the call.

Either way, it's probably not in, in, in Kirby smart said this after the game, probably not great precedent to say that you can announce a call market. And then, Oh, by the way, uh, I just had a few minutes to think about it while trash was being thrown on the field. Yeah. If you cry it off, they'll change their mind. Yeah, I like that. Yeah. So the official, you're saying that he saw it like as a defensive back was actually the

wide receiver and then called it that way. To me, I mean, I think everybody that watched it, and ultimately, you know what? It's one of those situations where maybe ball don't lie because they got the call right. They ended up making the correct call on the play. And then Georgia just ended up beating the shit out of Texas from that point on. So it's like, this could be a lot worse if it had been a call that actually just straight up

impacted the result of the game. But yeah, it basically just says, and I know that Texas is trying to like track down what students threw shit onto the field, right right I don't know if they're gonna use surveillance cameras or whatever that's it's just a whole mess and it was done probably in a bad way but at the end of the day I think it ended up working out as good as it could for the sport yeah well think about this guys like if they had if they had stuck to the original call, right,

then there would always be that thing hanging over the outcome and the result of the game. And certainly it would have been a pretty big, so there's that point. And the other point is, what if Texas used that play to score touchdown, which they did, and springboard them into a win. Then so there's a lot of different ways this could have been, this could have had a lot more magnitude, I think. Um,

but instead it kind of went how you thought it might go. Yeah, it was a footnote. Uh, so I, I wanted to talk about from that game, you were there, you were there. What was the vibe, uh, when you're talking to Texas people, not to do knee-jerk reactions But this was Texas in their first big boy SEC game and they got absolutely manhandled like that was that was an insane performance by George's defensive line and it felt like oh We we asked for this we wanted to go to the SEC This isn't us pushing around Baylor and Texas Tech anymore. Like these are big boys Did you catch that vibe or was it like hey, we're close. We just had an off night

There was a little bit of that vibe and then in for me guys actually go back 14 years ago at the time I was a beat writer covering the University of Missouri and in their first year in the SEC 2012 to cover in the University of Missouri. And in their first year in the SEC, 2012, they hosted Georgia in their first ever SEC game. And going into that week, a Missouri player, kind of calling out the old school type of SEC and how they played back then, certainly,

said that Georgia played old man football. I don't know if you guys remember that. And then after the game, Georgia absolutely whipped them in the same way that Georgia beat Texas controlling the line of scrimmage, dominating on defense, harassing the quarterback. And so after that Missouri game in 2012, a Georgia player said, no, we don't play old man football. We play grown man football. And that's what, that's what this felt like. Yeah, actually is like Texas. Welcome to the sec. We play grown man football. It was amazing. Georgia's defensive front and what they did against a Texas offensive line that

that really was supposed to be one of the best in is in the most experienced in the country. It was just, they harassed harassed them has harassed the quarterback all game. I think they had seven sacks. I think they had three sack fumbles. It was it was a dominating performance by Georgia. And then afterward, you know, Kirby Smart, it talked a lot as coaches do about all the doubt, you know, going into the game that Georgia could handle and stay with Texas. And he talked about the doubters and see, I showed you that this was a, I showed you game. This was a welcome to the SEC game. This is how we play.

Yeah. I mean, Texas's main fault was just not wearing Alabama's uniforms because that's the only team that could beat Georgia. That's it. Yeah. They just beat everyone else. Never play. Never play Alabama again. They can somehow get away with never playing Alabama again, Georgia. They just beat everyone else. They should never play Alabama again. They can somehow get away with never playing Alabama again, George. They'll be fine. They'd never lose a game. So speaking of Alabama, you know, your bread and butter, starting out was SEC. What do you think the vibe is like in Alabama right now, knowing that

it's not that they have lost to Vanderbilt in Tennessee, which are bad, you know, Saban would never lose to Vanderbilt, but it's also you could kind of see Alabama and they don't have the toughness discipline that a Nick Saban team has always had. And that's got to be driving people insane, I would imagine. Is Tuscaloosa still standing? Have they burned it down yet? I mean, I can't imagine what it's like there right now in the building, outside of the building. I just, Sunday, church on Sunday in Tuscaloosa or anywhere in Alabama, I'm sure was that this was a talking point, the tide losing two of their first seven, which hadn't happened since Saban's first year, 2007.

Wow. And you're right, you nailed one of the issues. They are undisciplined. And we've seen through 17 years, we saw pretty disciplined teams from Nick Saban. And they are just undisciplined. We saw 15 penalties, I think Alabama had. I think they are in the bottom 10 in the FBS in total penalty yardage in

games. So, and these are silly penalties. They're like post snap and pre-snap penalties, frustration, emotional type penalties. You know, and it's the little things. These teams are separated by so small. Their talent is so close, especially with Alabama and Tennessee and the Georges and the Texas, it's these little things. And sometimes a penalty or a group of penalties can be the difference in a game.

So it's been shocking to see how they played in, in this is a storyline. Uh, certainly from here on out, is Nick Saban, their former coach, right, and maybe the best of all time, is square in the middle of college football still every morning on Saturday. And his team, right, his former team, at least, is, you know, losing as bad as they have since he took since he had originally taken over. So I'm fascinated to see how Nick Saban nationally on ESPN is going to approach this. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, you said it's, it's

the first time it's happened since Nick Saban's first year as well. Now, obviously Debord took over a much, much, much better program than, than Saban inherited at the time, but there's going to be growing pains. And I actually think the SEC right now where it stands, we're in for a very fun couple of weeks here because there's a little bit of chaos. We don't know what's going to happen. And with the 12 team playoff, it feels like there's any number of five different combinations of ways that this could shake out. So from where we're sitting today, it's October 21st.

Where is this going to play out? Who's going to win the SEC? And then what other SEC teams do you think are 21st. Where is this gonna play out? Who's gonna win the SEC? And then what other SEC teams do you think are gonna be in the 12-team playoff? Yeah, I mean, we could really, we could be locked at four or five teams at the top, all tied with one, two losses. You look and there could easily be three or four teams

that finished 10 and two in the league. And how do you separate these teams? Some of them didn't play each other because the conference has gotten so big, you know, in all the conferences, right? That's one of the issues with this consolidation of conferences and the consolidation of big brands and the growth of conferences is that you got rid of the divisions. So everybody's lumped in together and there's 16 or 18 teams in these conferences, and some of them don't play each other.

So you got all these tiebreakers, including down to like the fifth, sixth, seventh tiebreaker, down to like flipping a coin, right, to see who goes to the championship game. We could really be in, not just in the SEC, but in for some seriously weird ties uh, ties and tiebreakers. But to get back to your question, I think we all probably saw the best team in the sec on Saturday night in, in it's Georgia.

It's a healthy Georgia, you know, as long as they can avoid Alabama, uh, it's a, it's a healthy Georgia. You know, they were missing a lot of defensive players against Alabama. They were missing a lot of defensive players. And in a lot of these games against Kentucky, they got pretty much everybody back against Texas and it showed. And that's, that's what they are. So to me, Georgia's probably, uh, you know, the best team in the league.

Uh, you know, from there, I think there's, there's a, there's a grouping, um, of a lot of, a lot of teams kind of all jumbled together. Obviously, A&M right now is at the top of the league, undefeated in the conference, and so is LSU. They each have a non-conference loss, and so they're kind of right there. You know, so, so me to, to me, it's, it's after Georgia, it's Tennessee, it's A&M and it's probably, probably LSU. Uh, and then you have Texas as well. So I think there's a big four or five grouping right there. And out of that group, somebody's got to get to the championship game

to potentially face Georgia. Yeah. And I don't really know who, who that is. You know, if you look at the schedules, A&M and LSU play each other this weekend. So that's gonna tell us some things, right? Texas and Texas A&M finish the year playing each other. Tennessee still has to play Georgia, I believe, right? So you'll, at the end of this thing, if you look at it,

we might see Texas and Georgia playing again. Yeah, Yeah. All right, so in terms of big picture, we have a stance on this podcast. We love the 12-team playoff. Are you a fan of the 12-team playoff? And like we were just saying before you hopped on, UNLV Boise State is a game on Friday night

that has major, major implications that wouldn't in years past with a four team playoff. What do you think though, in terms of for the sport and for any naysayers who are like, we don't like the 12 team playoff? Well, I always go back to the percentages of teams in a certain sport that can advance to their postseason. So you look at the NCAA basketball tournament and a lot of other NCAA sports, volleyball, softball. And around 10% to 20% of sports participants

can get into the postseason. And college football for so many years was 3%, which is incredibly low, just too low. Look at pro sports. They have over 20% some of their, you know, you can probably go too high, but 3% is certainly too low. So right now they're at 9 or 10% with the 12-team playoff, which I think some would probably say is too low, which is why we're probably almost certainly bound eventually

for 16-team playoff. Like everything sets up for this thing to keep expanding. Yeah, 14 teams, 16 teams, like it's going to keep expanding. But I love it. I love the 12 team. I actually like the format a lot too. I know that's been a big debate right now. And there's a couple of real powerful conferences that want to see the format changed right in the big 10 and SEC. They want to see a change there. They want to see

multiple automatic qualifiers. But I love the format changed, right? In the Big Ten and SEC, they want to see a change there. They want to see multiple automatic qualifiers. But I love the format as it is now, where basically each Power 4 conference gets an AQ, their champion gets an AQ. And then, as you mentioned, right, that the best group of five team gets an AQ, and basically serves, in a way, as that, like, 16-seat in the NCAA basketball tournament

kind of playing the one seed sort of thing. You know, they'll almost always be a 12 seed, although you never know, right? We could have like, you know, this year guys, like what if we have a big 12 team lose two or three games and win the big 12 championship and finish in the rankings behind a Boise or UNLV? Well a Boise or UNLV. Well, Boise or UNLV is going to end up getting the four seed because the top four seeds only go to conference champions and they get a buy. So actually you could have that happen. It would be pretty unusual, but you could.

But I love it. I love the format. I love how they did it. They have seven at larges, right, that are still for those programs that didn't win their conference. But I really like the format as is. I wish that they would kind of let the format play out before changing it. But everybody's in a rest these days and there's not a lot of patience. Wait, so what's, when we met at the combine last year, you explained to me what they were proposing for a format change. So

what would be the 16 team playoff and also how does it tie in? You do some great reporting this big 10 sec they're doing like, you know, these, the meeting of the families in Nashville and stuff and just trying to box everyone. What's happening in all of that, if you can explain it. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot going on, right? I'll start with the playoff format and it ties in to the Big Ten SEC meetings, right? So Big Ten SEC, Adidas, athletic directors met about two weeks ago in Nashville. It was a joint meeting, kind of historic,

unprecedented type of meeting between 34 athletic directors gathered in a room. And they talked about three things. One of them was the future of the college football playoff format. Another one was a future scheduling partnership between the two programs, like a regular season scheduling type of agreement.

And the number three was of course this house settlement, this antitrust house settlement that will usher in revenue sharing, athlete revenue sharing coming next year. So those are kind of the three big topics. So they do tie into the playoff format. So this past spring, when all the 10 FBS commissioners got together in Notre Dame's athletic director, those 11 people kind of sit on a board that controls the college football playoff, when they all got together in Notre Dame's athletic director, those 11 people kind of sit on a board that controls the college football playoff. When they all got together to start talking about a new CFP,

there was an agreement that was made that basically the SEC and Big Ten have most of the control. They basically ceded control to the SEC and Big Ten on revenue distribution, who gets the money, in the future format of a playoff starting in 2026 and beyond, because for the next two years we'll have the current format, the 12 team, five AQ, seven at large. But they ceded control of a lot of this to the SEC and Big Ten,

and you probably ask, why in the heck, with the Big 12, the ACC, and the Group of Five conferences cede control to the SEC and Big 10? It's because the SEC and Big 10 said, we want the power or we're leaving, and we're leaving you behind. And that's what happened. And I've got administrators that have been on the record about that. I had a story back in April kind of diving deep into what happened, the ultimatum that

the SEC and Big 10 gave them. So nobody wanted to see that. Well, they see the control. So the bottom line is the SEC and Big 10, in conjunction with their TV partner, ESPN, have control of the future format of the playoff. And they'll start talking probably in the spring, maybe January, about what the playoff will look like starting in 2026 and beyond. Now there are some guarantees, guys, that they made. So there's a guarantee that each Power 4 Conference champion will get in and a Group of 5 champion will get in.

And there's a guarantee for Notre Dame because they're an independent. If they finish inside a certain ranking, a top 12, a top 14, then they get in at large berth. So keeping in mind those guarantees, everything else is on the table. Where the games are played, how many playoff teams there are, and what they really want, and what they've pushed especially in the Big Ten guys,

is that they want multiple automatic qualifiers per conference. So the Big Ten would like multiple automatic qualifiers per conference. So the Big 10 would like four automatic qualifiers in the playoff. The SEC, the proposal was the SEC would have four as well. The ACC and Big 12 might have two each. Those are just talked about, nothing agreed to. But that's what the talk is.

They're trying to eliminate the selection committee in the subjectivity around that. So that is kind of the talking point right now. Nothing agreed to, but that's what the Big Ten specifically wants. It's interesting because looking forward in like four years into the future of college football, you have no idea how many of these conferences are going to exist as we know them right now, right? Because realignment is still happening. So what is the big picture?

What is the end goal that the power conferences are fighting towards? Where do they see college football being in like five years? Who? Yeah. I mean, some of them don't know where college football will be in five months, right? It changes so regular. Like every day, it's changing. I think something everybody needs to understand is that the house settlement,

which not to get too in the weeds there, just know that the house settlement will allow schools to pay millions of dollars directly to athletes, right? In a state competitive, you're gonna have to pay millions of dollars to athletes. And there are schools that aren't gonna be able to do that. So there's gonna be more and more separation, right?

Specifically between probably the top 30 or 40 schools and everybody else, and certainly the top 70 and the power four and the G5. The gaps will continue to grow. And in 2031, when pretty much every conference, a lot of the conferences, TV deals come open, which the TV deals of course lock schools in place. But when they come open, everybody's a free agent, right? So in 2031, when a lot of that happens, you're gonna have more conference movement and more realignment.

And there's a suggestion that the gaps will grow so big because of all the revenue sharing coming and all the schools that can't keep up, that there will be a small segment, not 130, maybe not even 70, maybe 40 or 50, that separate off and do their own thing. You guys have seen probably a lot of my reporting and others about this, quote, super league type of things that are being shared with administrators that a lot of them have private equity back behind them and they basically would separate a smaller group of programs into kind of a premier league in

Europe and it would be more of a professionalized kind of model. That's the way a lot of folks see this going. Now, whether that's just the SEC and Big Ten splitting off and doing it, or the SEC and Big Ten splitting off and taking some other programs, or the Power Four, there's gonna be some kind of more formal separation on the way.

Yeah. What about relegation? Have they talked about that? Because that would rock. Yeah. Yeah, it would. You know, the proposal, there's a group, I had a story about this a couple of weeks ago, right before the SEC and Big Ten meeting. It's called Project Rudy. It's a kind of a type of super league proposal. They don't call

it a super league. Most would, it takes the four power leagues and all those 70 schools, it keeps everybody in their conference, but they only play one another. So they play conference schedules and then all their non-conference are against one another, not against G5, not against FCS schools. And then they have kind of a redone playoff. And then they consolidate everybody into a TV, one TV package, which would bring in more money and they have relegation. Right? So they have tiers, they have four tiers and you're, you're putting these tiers based

on how you performed the previous year. So they, they do have a relegation where you can move up and move down. Um, a lot of folks like the idea. It has a lot of support, but it has more support from people not in the Big Ten in SEC. Because they're in an advantage position. If you feel like you could possibly lose out on being in the Big Ten, why would you ever sign off on that deal? Yeah. Right.

Exactly. I hope it just gets to a point, as is my hope that it probably will never happen, is that we just end up back at square one where you have like the big ten now there's a big ten west division like in the NFL and it's Oregon USC Washington UCLA so you bring back the regional divisions and then you play it almost like an NFL schedule where it's like you play everyone in your little division winner of your division goes to the playoff and play it out that way that's probably never going to happen,

but it feels like it would be funny if we kind of like streaming, how streaming took place of cable. And now we're back at the spot where we're just buying streaming bump bundles and we're buying cable again. We're just going to get back to regional conferences through divisions. Yeah. I think that we could see certainly on the for the bat for basketball and the Olympic sports. They're already talking about that, right? How can we regionalize

competition because it makes no sense for a volleyball team to fly across the country or softball team to fly across the country and folks are starting to realize that there's already talk at the NCA level of trying to more regionalize Olympic sports. But maybe you're right, maybe it happens even in football at some point in these conferences break down and separate into a geographic type of regions. You know, I think a lot of that, again, will probably get settled in the early to mid 2030s, where you have all the TV deals come open and schools are kind of free agents. But this revenue share is gonna change everything.

And it is gonna, for once and for all, probably lead to some sort of formal breakaway and separation between the programs that make a lot of the money, right? Like I think the stats are the top, there's 18 programs that drive 60% of the college football viewership, 18. And of those, I think there's six programs

that drive like, you know, 60% of that 60%, right? So those programs are, and along with a few others, are going to separate just based alone on the fact that they can pay now, they can pay players directly and legally. And so we're going to have to get to separation. And once that really happens, then you probably will have what you're talking about where everybody starts having a little more sense on geography and travel. Yeah. All right. So back to this season, then you probably will have what you're talking about. Where everybody starts having a little more sense on geography and travel. Yeah, all right, so back to this season,

because it's been a great college football season. We've screwed this up a few times. Explain to us how we can get both Army and Navy into the college football playoff. Into the playoff? Woo, that would be hard. Yeah, okay. That would be difficult. It's amazing though, that this is happening this season

where Army and Navy are both at the same time, undefeated for the first time since World War II, I think. And it's amazing that that's happening right now in the first year of the expanded playoff in about six months after the CFP made a crucial decision concerning specifically Army and Navy. So back in April, the CFP got together. We all know Army and Navy play

the week after the conference championship games, the week after the CFP selections are made. So back in April, the CFP had a big meeting trying to decide on what to do. What if Army and Navy are somehow in their wildest dreams, they finish undefeated and we have to, and they still haven't played each other and we have to make selections. Well they got together in April and they decided we're gonna basically not count the Army-Navy game. So we're gonna make our selections

right on after the conference championship games, we're going to make the selection of who the best G five team in team is, uh, and give them the AQ. And if it's army or Navy, we give it to army or Navy and they'll just play the next week and that game really won't count, you know, cause the decisions already made. If that all happens in the first year, that's crazy. Incredibly fascinating. Yeah.

It'll be fascinating. Now army and Navy can meet in the conference year. That's crazy. It'll be incredibly fascinating. Yeah, it'll be fascinating. Now Army and Navy can meet in the conference championship game. Right, yeah. They can meet in the American athletic. They don't play obviously in the regular season. They play in that second week of December, but they can meet in the conference championship game.

And if they both finish undefeated, they will meet in the conference championship game. So the CFP will pick the winner if they are ranked ahead, right? A Boise, UNLV, some of the other G5 schools. Those are the main two. Boise and UNLV are probably the, when in the G5 race, I'm guessing Boise and UNLV will be the teams that will threaten the winner if they are undefeated, Army and Navy on that, at that American Athletic Conference Championship to get the G5. But yeah, it would be wild guys that Army and Navy could play for the American athletic conference championship to get the G five. But yeah, it would be wild guys that army Navy could play for the American in the American

conference championship game. A day later, the CFP will pick the winner potentially to get the G five a Q in the playoff. And then six days later, they play again in the official army Navy game actually here in DC. Yeah, that will be crazy. Yeah. So there's, there's a chance that Navy could win the conference championship. They get into the playoff and then army beats Navy

at the army Navy game. Bingo. Yeah. And wouldn't that be amazing? And if you're rooting for ultimate chaos, you needed to be like Navy beats army in a controversial ending in the conference championship game. Yeah. Then gets in, and then Army wipes the floor with Navy and the Army-Navy. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Yeah.

Without really even hoping for it, because we saw that it's not really a loophole, but the way the rules are written, there is a possibility for a group of five school to get one of the top four seeds if it shakes out. Like the big 12 doesn't have a great champion. We want to see Army hosting a, a, a game, like in the playoff at West Point. How cool would that be?

That would be, yeah, that would be amazing if that does happen in West Point. Uh, would be, uh, yeah, it would be like probably snowing, right? Like 20 degrees or something. It would, it would, it would be, it would be pretty awesome. In fact, I don't know about you guys, but the on-campus first round college football playoff games, I don't know that I've ever been more excited for anything related to college football than those games.

I'm super pumped. I'm gonna try to, they play the third week of December, whatever, December 20th and 21st, those games are. And there's a Friday night game on campus. And then there's three on that Saturday. I'm actually gonna try to get to the one on Friday night and then the one on Saturday night, trying to cover back to back.

Cause I'm like super pumped at on campus, college football, playoff games, where college football should be played on campus in stadiums. It's gonna be awesome. So let's talk about the big 10 real quick. So Indiana, undefeated. The haters will say they haven't played anybody.

Are the haters right? Well, I mean, if you look at it, Indiana's best win probably is at home against two lost Nebraska. Now Nebraska could end the season 10 and two or nine and three, they could. But I think that there is an argument to be made that Indiana basically hasn't played a top 35, 40 team

in the country. Now that will change pretty soon, right? In a few weeks, they'll get Ohio State. But if you look at their schedule guys, they might not play a team that finishes ranked in the top 25 except for Ohio State. So that would be trouble for them if they drop any other game.

As far as getting in at large bid into the CFP, that would be trouble for Indiana. If they are 10 and 2 and they have a strength of schedule, I don't remember what their strength of schedule is right now, but it's not really high. They really need to go 11 and 1 probably to get a CFP at large. There is an argument to be made that they haven't, you know, they haven't played at a very tough schedule. Just looking at their schedule strength. I found it finally.

This is, this is Sager and Jeff from Jeff Sager and rankings, they're 114th in their strength of schedule. So that's, that's an issue it is, but they're beating the crap out of these teams. They're scoring a crap load of points and they're beating them really badly. Uh, so you've got to think of that as well. Yeah. And Bloomington, we were there. We did our show on, uh, from Bloomington on, on Saturday and they all went into the game. So that was say they're pumped about India. Indiana has a great tailgate history. Uh, sometimes they wouldn't go into the game. They're fired up and it's a fun, fun story. Uh, all right.

Other, other big picture things for this season. So I've heard you guys talk about this on your podcast, but the flattening out of, uh, college football with the NIL and transfer portal, it's great. It's great because you get, it feels like anyone could beat anyone at this point. Uh, and it's not just watching a sport where there are two or three teams that can conceivably win and no one else. Uh, do you think this is going to continue the flattening out and this is going to be a college football going forward where there's more parody and it's, it's a better sport when there's more parity. For sure, yeah. It's way more excitement when it's more parity, when you have underdogs able to pull out some things

and win sometimes. I do think that while NIL and the Transfer Portal has grown the gaps between the Power 4 and the Group of 5, because it definitely has, the data is there, it has, but I think it's made tighter the top 30 or 40 programs in the country, because the talent, from a transfer portal perspective, is getting spread out.

And NIL is now, you know, paying players is kind of legal. So now you don't have just a small, maybe, group paying players. Everybody's paying players, right? So it does flatten out the talent. And I think in the top 30 or 40, you're seeing that. You're seeing more parity up there. And I think you'll continue to see that.

Now, when we get into revenue share, in a lot of ways, it's probably gonna continue to flatten more flattened thing out and drive parity because now everybody will kind of have a budget, right, of expected to be annually in a low 20 millions of what they can distribute to their athletes every year, these schools. And you're going to see probably, I'm going to guess 40, 45 power conference teams of the 70, about 45, go all the way and be able to distribute the full amount

to their athletes. And so it'll even more so, you would think even things. Now, that said, there still is outside NIL money that will be generated, especially in the big programs when you have big brands and big names like Ohio State and Jeremiah Smith, a receiver. He's going to generate outside NIL income. It's not going to probably come from the school.

It's going to come from actual real brands. So you're going to still have some of that, but the revenue share in the portal, all of this has, guys, it's brought the schools like Alabama and Texas A&M closer, right? You guys remember a couple years ago, the spat, public spat between Nick Saban and Jimbo Fisher. Well, if you wanna know why, that's why, right? It's brought the two closer because Texas A&M can now pay and is now paying and the transfer portal allows immediate eligibility. So players that

set the bench at Alabama now want to play, so they're going somewhere to play. So it has brought those closer together. What it has done though is further separate the Alabamas in the Louisiana Tex, right? Those two are more separated, but the Alabamas and Texas A&M's, the Alabamas and Ole Misses are closer. Yeah, so if you're a five-star quarterback, junior year of high school, and let's say it's the year 2032, right?

And you're number one recruit in the entire country. What school is gonna be able to pay you the most money directly, and then what is your expected actual income going to be just from the college? Okay, so this is 2032. Yeah, let's say using today's dollars though, because you just said the $20 million figure. What is a five-star quarterback going to be worth at a premier institution. So, uh, you know, there will be incremental automatic increases and how much schools can share with athletes every year, annually

up until this settlement is complete, which is 2035. So by the time 2032 rolls around, if schools are paying, allowed to pay 22 million next year to all their athletes every year, by the time 2032, 2032 gets that gets here, it's estimated that it'll be around paying, allowed to pay 22 million next year to all their athletes every year. By the time 2032 gets here, it's estimated that it'll be around 30 million, right? So let's say each school has a budget of 30 million to spend on all their athletes, right? And probably 20 million, maybe 22 million of that will be football, right? So you got a budget of around $22 million just for football in the year that you're talking about. Yeah. And

if you're a big quarterback, and you're highly rated in quarterback is the most sought after position, I'm guessing you're going to sign a deal with the school that's going to annually pay you, you know, close to five to 10% of that 22 million of your roster. So you're you're looking at two to $3 million, I would imagine. Yes. That's what I would think is going to happen. I mean, you have some of that today, not as much.

You'll have more of it when schools are going to be able to pay players directly. Now, you asked what school can pay you more. Well, they all have the same budget. But you've got the bigger brand schools that, especially located in the bigger markets, they're going to the bigger brand schools that in especially located in the bigger markets, they're going to be able to generate outside NIL that don't count against that cap. They won't. The money doesn't count against the budget. It's outside money. So

the Ohio States, the Texas, all of the programs that are in big markets and that are big brands are going to have the advantage. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Real quick. I want to do hot seat rankings. So one to 10. I'm going to say coach, you tell me how hot their seat is. 10 being the hottest. So Billy Napier would be a 10. He's basically fired. Well, though, you know, good win against Kentucky, but 10 for, for Billy Napier going off that Sam Pittman seven seven okay what about Lincoln Riley well the problem with Lincoln Riley is his buyout is Jimbo Fisher type money okay right it's like 70 to 80 million so if you factor in buyout it's pretty low I would think it's less than five okay if the buyout wasn't there obviously he'd be right there with Billy Napier. Okay. But, but the buyout has to pass to lower the number. Yeah. Brent Venables.

They just gave him a new contract over the summer. It was all crazy. Yeah. Typical college football. Typical. It's typical. I think the excuse or the reasoning was going into the sec. We had to get his salary, uh salary comparable to all the other sec coaches salaries so they added a couple years to the contract they gave him big race um i'm guessing a five because of that it's only year three i'm guessing more like a four or five okay i love that they're like we we need him to coach better so we're gonna pay him like a better coach yeah and then hopefully he'll live up to that money that is yeah what about mike norvell well another another huge huge buyout after

a year of going undefeated in the regular season and winning a championship pretty low three. Okay. Uh, what about, what about James Franklin after he loses the Badgers on Saturday night? That's gonna be big, right? It's a big, that's a big game, man. That's a big game before a big game too. I plan on covering the Penn State hosting Ohio State game in two weeks But then any Lions will have to get through Wisconsin. They are playing really well. Yeah, so what would that be? James Frank is on the hot seat. Okay. All right Hey, we try to throw it out there. I'm just throwing out names That's gonna be a fun game for just running the damn ball. Yeah, just so much

It is you're missing one one other name, you know, down in Baylor. Dave, Dave Miranda's probably up there with a Billy name. That what? All right. Last one. Kaelin DeBoer. Oh, well again, the buy, I think he, I think he signed a contract where, you know, whatever 90% is guaranteed. So you're talking about like an 80 to $90 million buyout. I don't think that's happening. And I don't think that's happening after year one. You know what would happen in places like Alabama in Ohio State, considering Ryan Day

and the streak against Michigan, these coaches aren't gonna get fired. They're gonna turn the middle finger at the schools and say, I'm tired of dealing with this. I'm tired of dealing with this crazy fan base. I win all these games, right? And you're still up my, you know what? Like, I'm just, and they just go to the NFL, go to another job. We we've seen it. We've seen it happen

before. You know, we've seen it happen before. Lincoln Riley to USC, Brian Kelly to LSU. I mean, I, you know, so more so that they get fired is they leave on their own because of the situation. Yeah. What? Oh, Hugh freeze feels like that's not going well. No, it's not here by the way. It's not Hugh freezes fault. If you listen to Hugh freeze feels like that's not going well. No, it's not. By the way, it's not Hugh freezes fault. If you listen to Hugh freeze, none of this is his fault. He, he needed to, uh, I think we all, we all realize now probably, uh, and I'm sure Hugh does he really needed to get a quarterback out of the portal. Um, you know, I think at the start of the year guys, this season, 60% of power conference teams started to transfer quarterback.

It's just the way it is. And if you don't get the market, if you got an average or below average quarterback, you gotta hit the market and get a quarterback. And you gotta be able to pay for a quarterback. I mean, some of these quarterbacks are, you know, 600,000, 800,000, 1.2 million. They're a lot, but they're being, you know, Miami, Texas, 800,000, 1.2 million. There are a lot, but they're being, you know, Miami,

Texas A and M Notre Dame. What these, these programs that you see at the top of college football have transfer quarterbacks that they're paying a lot of money to, uh, where would Miami be without Kim work? I mean, there's not seven to no, no, definitely not. The defense is so bad. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But they're, they're never out of any game. So, definitely not. The defense is so bad. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But they're, they're never out of any game. So, all right.

Specifically about the Florida opening that to me seems like that could be a really interesting one. And obviously Billy Napier is still a coach there, but presuming that he's not the coach there at the end of the season, who do you see? Who would, who, who are the Gators going to be circling? Well, I mean, I think, you know, there's certainly, think there's certainly a lot of buzz around Lane Kiffin always at Ole Miss, right? You hear Lane's name a lot. You hear Eli Drinkwood's name quite a bit at Missouri too.

It's those kind of coaches that are at maybe a mid tier to lower tier power conference program that have done really well in that have familiarity, probably with the SEC, you know, I would I would guess that those are two toward the top of the list. You know, if I'm if I'm guessing, yeah. And then on the Heisman front, we think that Travis Hunter is the best college football player in America. It has nothing to do with the fact that we have 40 to one tickets. Nothing to do with that. Completely unbiased.

Do you, do you have a Heisman vote? I do. Oh, you agree then the Travis Hunter is the best. If we're talking about just the best football player, right? Uh, absolutely. Yeah. Good point. Good point.

Good point. We didn't bring it up. Nobody's done what he's done on both sides of the ball, right? That we've seen in 30 years. It's, it's remarkable. Now I tell you what, uh, Gentie, Ashton Gentie, uh, the boys are running backs. Going to have a little bit of something to say. He's just tearing it up. At an incredible level. And you know, who else could have something to say? The guy we just talked about at Miami cam or is Ashton Gentie. That's the guy who plays it like one in the

morning, right? Yeah. They use a kickoff run 11 PM. Yeah. I mean, listen, where, you know, the voters are long asleep. He's the guy that couldn't beat Oregon. Yeah. He couldn't beat Oregon. Yeah. I remember that guy. People are so mad. People are so mad at us because we bring up Travis Hunter on every podcast, but we've been very, very clear that it is as we did this last year, Jayden Daniels, we, we basically, we bet on him like halfway through the season and then we just pumped him up for the entire season. I don't think we have that type of influence, but every little bit helps. You're rigging it. You guys are rigging the system. Well, at the very least, I think it would be cool to see one of those two first players. I mean,

you're like seeing it not go to a quarterback. I think is always going to be. Yeah. Travis Hunter deserves it. Yeah. Yeah. He plays two position. He's a Heisman trophy candidate at two different positions. Yeah. All you have to do is win one Heisman. We'll settle for one. I say all the time that Colorado has the three best players in the country. They have, they have one of the best quarterbacks in the country. They have one of the best cornerbacks in the country, and they have one of the best receivers in the country. One player responsible for two of those. Yeah, he's two of the three best players in the entire nation. That's a good point to put it. All right. Last question, Ross. This has been so much fun. We really appreciate it. Everyone

do check out Ross's writing on Yahoo. He's going to Navy tomorrow to do a story on them. So that's going to be great. I'm excited to read that. A row back question, R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q-zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rowback.com promo code take. My last question, I was going to do the lame thing of saying, oh, who's going to be in the national title game and who's going to win. But let me do something a little less lame. Our good friend, a coworker, Brandon Walker,

you're Mississippi State guy, right? I am a Mississippi State grad. What does Mississippi State think of Brandon Walker? I have no idea. How am I supposed to know that? I don't know. I wish I could, uh, I wish I could tell you. I don't think I've had a whole lot of conversations with, uh, folks at Mississippi state about Brandon Walker, but I'm sure they love the publicity. You know, the cow bell cowbell loves a little national publicity for sure. Okay. So next time you're back in Starkville, maybe just do a little straw poll. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I'll do a little recondition. I want his Q rating. I want his Q rating. I think it's pretty high because he is like he does he Mississippi State's not a flashy school and he reps them very very Hard and he's a good friend of ours, but I would like to know his Q rating

Okay, I'll see if I can get that done for you. Okay. What do you personally think of Brandon Walker? Well, I don't know Brandon that well, I think I've only met him a couple times, you know, I'll tell you this He's he's entertaining. Yeah, uh-huh He's got hot takes he He does college football right in the fact that he there's college football is essentially especially online is just a hornet's nest And he just walks over every Saturday and he just kicks the hornet nest and he's just yeah That's right. That's right. Well, then the day where he's away. Yeah. Yeah, he gets upset like a day later He's like was everybody

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And now for something completely different. Okay. We now welcome on a very special guest. He is a basketball trainer to some of the best players in the NBA. It is Chris Brickley Chris, thank you for coming in. First of all second I think the first question that everyone's gonna wonder is like dude your basketball trainer and your last name's Brickley. Yes That's gotta be a problem. Yes. Just get that out of the way right now. No, for sure. I see it on social media all the time. Unfortunately I couldn't control my last name, but nah, that's definitely a joke. Yeah, I mean, it's like, have you thought about changing your name to Swishly or something?

That's actually a good idea. Yeah. No, I haven't, but maybe I should. Yeah. You could just Cashly. Cashly would be good too. That's good too. But you know, Brickleyley's a rough it's a rough last name for sure for sure it's very funny so who's got the the sweetest most pure shot that you've ever seen

man I would have to go with uh probably clay Thompson really it's pretty pretty good shot you know Kevin Durant has a very good shot. This is all different. I mean when Mello was in his prime I feel like he was a really good shooter. Yeah I've worked with a bunch of guys. I've been blessed. Yeah so what your backstory is you played for Rick Pitino at Louisville. Yep. Friend of ours. Yep. Former foe now friend. Legend. So he came in here. Yeah legend. So what like at what point did you realize that like, I assume when you're playing basketball growing up, you're going to Louisville, you're like, I could go pro. For sure. What was that like? Okay, maybe I'm not pro. Let's think

about the next thing. Yes. Then that was definitely the goal. I get there. I'm a walk on. So, you know, you have my plan many minutes. Uh, I saw coach Patino's lifestyle. He would drive a Lexus. He had a Rolex. He, he had a Rolex, he lived a great life. I'm like, damn, I want to do that. So the goal is to be a coach at first. So I was at Ole Miss for a year. I was the youngest Division I assistant coach at Fairleigh Dickinson. Then I was with the Knicks. I was with the Knicks for four seasons. Mello kind of took me under his wings. I want you to be my trainer. And that was when I was an intern. So it was kind of it was crazy for the franchise

player to pick an intern to be his trainer. And it all happened because first game of the year Mello misses the game winner. Everyone's like don't talk to him. Like no one talks to him after the after situations like this. So everyone left the locker room and I just went up to him and I just told him how I felt. Went into the office the next day and he's like, I want him to be my trainer. Wait, what did you say to him? I was, I was like, don't worry about it. It was a good shot. Yeah. I was like, you weren't like, uh, you got to tuck your elbow in a little bit more or something. Definitely not. I was like, it was a good miss. It was a good shot. If it happened again, you'd shoot the same shot he liked he liked that and

Kenny Atkinson who I don't know he's been a head coach with a few teams That was his assigned guy and then yeah, I became his trainer and for four years I traveled the world with him year-round and I met all these guys and so when I left the Knicks that kind of set me up Started business. Yeah, how do you know when to make a correction in a shot? Everybody has off nights, right? For sure. So you can't micromanage that and be like, you know, he misses, I don't know, 10 shots one night.

No, you're right. Hey, just so you know you're doing this with your wrist. You have to wait, right? You have to wait until there's a body of evidence where it's like, we need to fix this. So when is that? I think if a player Just in their workouts just aren't making shots if you look at their figure percentage, and they're shooting like 20% Then you have to make it you have to make a change

Yeah, but you don't want it you don't want guys overthinking it most NBA guys They don't need to make too many changes But there's some guys that need to make changes Lonzo ball as a guy that made a giant change in his shot a few years ago. So we'll see how that goes this year. How do you know when it's mental as opposed to physical? That's a great question. So mental. It's actually, you'd be surprised, some of the biggest superstars that have ever played have given me text midseason. Like I lost it. I don't got it anymore. And I'm like, bro, you're bugging. Like you're so and so like you haven't lost it. It's just up here. So yeah, it's definitely a big mental game.

Yeah. So, so Mello takes you under his wing and then you start training him. When did you open your gym? And I have a question about your gym that I hope is not offensive, but I do have a question about your gym. But when did you open it? So when I first started training with Mello, their 10th anniversary with Jordan, they built him his own Jordan gym. It's called Terminal 23. I don't know if you remember that. Yeah. So I ran that. I was successful and then I moved to Lifetime. I ran that. The Wall Street Journal came out with an article saying one summer of my workouts, it raised the lifetime membership inquiries 40% across the country.

Wow. So then we got reached out to by a company that, a real estate company, and they said, we want you to design a gym. You can live in the building. And yeah, that's your gym. And so that's where I live. That's a dream. So is that gym only for like NBA players or can other guys like our random guys playing if you live in the building?

Yeah, you can use it. But we I have first dibs on when I want to do Are people in the building could they come down and just watch they do so, you know Like when LeBron's working out there will be incredible guys on the treadmill running for like two hours. Yeah Yeah, so the question about the gym and again I hope this is an offense no I have a theory that the rims are a little bit bigger at your gym because everyone makes every no one misses right this started with hoodie Mello yep when he was in the offseason it was just like Mello literally doesn't miss now you could

probably tell me and this is is a real question like yeah this is just how these guys are wired that if they're not being defended they're just never gonna miss. For sure and your average NBA player they're not missing much but obviously I mean I'm not gonna put their misses I'm not gonna put a string of misses. Every now and then if you watch some of the videos I'll do a string out they might make 17 out of 20 so they might miss some shots but no yeah the joke is that no one's ever missed in the gym. Yeah it feels like the best gym ever so when you get a guy like can you explain to people because this was this is my argument

when we had the whole NFL NBA player debate okay and I was like listen I understand that NFL players are incredible athletes I'm not saying that they can't like do great things I just don't think people understand that an NBA player, when they're in an open gym, they will just not miss. Like, the worst guy on the bench, a big guy at the end of the bench can still shoot 50, 60% from three with no one in his face. Yes, for sure, for sure.

I mean, guys that people just don't, Ben Simmons will go into the gym and he'll make eight out of 10 threes with no one on him. And you know, it is what it is. An NBA player, you are very, very good. People don't understand that now it changes when defense is on you and stuff like that. Yeah, we have to talk about Ben Simmons as well because he's your guy. Obviously people, I'm glad we'm glad we brought that up because I was I was going to say something about Ben Simmons now I know he's your guy. I will change my question Well, it was just you know, this is I don't know the fourth or fifth year where we're going into the season being like Ben Simmons look the best he's ever looked

Is that actually real that he looks the best you ever look so we've been told that along the so I just started working With him he saw I work with Jimmy for a few years He looks the best he ever looked. So we've been told that only. So I've just started working with him. He. So I work with Jimmy for a few years. And I was like my guy, he moved over to Jimmy's agent. So Jimmy's agent was like, you should try working with Ben. So we just started working together last year. We worked during his injury, came back from his injury, had a triple double his first game last play of the game, pinned a shot shot broke his hand was out for the season. So I think the work has been working

He just has to stay healthy you I mean this if Ben Simmons has like an incredible Rejuvenation year it will be huge for you. Yeah, it will be like are you watching these games like Obviously, you're not rooting for a team. You're rooting for a guy. Yeah watching these games, like, obviously you're not rooting for a team, you're rooting for a guy. Are you watching these games being like, I'm living and dying with every Ben Simmons play? For sure. I actually hate watching the games, the guys I work with closely, because it's like, especially if I'm at a game. I've built like a platform where like some of the fans know who I work with. So I'll be there at the games and if a guy I'm working with doesn't play good, I have like a guy behind me like yo like Brickley what the fuck literally

so especially Knicks games but um yeah it's interesting but yeah yeah yeah so you're gonna be rooting for Ben you're gonna be watching him closely this year yeah some of the things I've heard about Ben like that might be a mental thing that you're working with too I don't know exactly what you're gonna be watching him closely this year. Yeah. Some of the things I've heard about Ben, like that might be a mental thing that you're working with too. I don't know exactly what you're talking with him about, but is there a way that you simulate pressure for your guys when they're shooting? Yeah, so I think with Ben, so he was all-star three years in a row, all-MBA three years in a row, without having a great shot. I think he can impact the game so many ways, whether through passing, through playing D, through pushing in transition,

that some guys, you just don't need to be a shooter. You could still be. So Ben Simmons just needs to be healthy, period. If he's healthy, he's gonna have a great season. It's that simple. I'm still a believer in Ben Simmons, as crazy as it sounds. He's young, he's still young.

He's full of energy, His body, he was injured. And right now, he's at 100%. Yeah, I've said for the last couple of years that Ben Simmons would be one of the best players in the NBA if there was no basket. If it was like a court, like he's got everything else. And if you can get a shot going. Do you remember when he was, do you

remember his All-Star years as rookie? Yeah. I think he was fun to watch. Magic Johnson vibes. Yeah, I was magic Johnson vibes. Yeah. I was buying all the stock because it was like there's, he's a game changer. You can't like he can guard anyone and very few people can match up. Yeah.

So I remember a few years ago, probably like 20 years ago, actually, I think it was Rick Berry that was talking about Shaq and his foul shot and said he could get Shaq to shoot 80% from the line if he would do the granny shot, if he would go underhand. Yeah. But players don't want to do that I think it's just a branding issue you got to rename it I was calling it the pimp grip for a while just because it sounds cooler is there something about the granny shot that's that gives it a little bit better touch if you're not a great shooter you know a player from Louisville I think did that last year two years ago um so with

that that's interesting I've never I I've never recommended that but uh what do you think the reaction would be if you recommended it probably wouldn't I might get some backlash yeah I already get some with Brickley being my last yeah but I know I'll think about that the other one I don't know if you've seen but like I think it's in South Korea they're all shooting it off the backboard. Yes, I see. On free throws. I've seen that.

It's crazy. No, it is. The free throws is definitely mental. That's something. You could find a great shooter, and even in workouts when we're in the gym, they'll start missing free throws. I'm like, you just made 85 out of 100 threes,

and why are you shooting six out of 10 from the free throw? It's just like a mental thing. Yeah. So how many free throws have you made in a row personally? Me personally, it's funny. I won the New Hampshire. I grew up in New Hampshire. This free throw shooting contest when I was little, I made like,

I don't know, 50 something in a row. Got it. Got a trophy. It's cool at the time. Yeah. So back to Louisville and you're you know, you're on Louisville with Patino as a coach. We've heard about his legendary workouts. What was, what's the hardest one that he would make your, cause that's what I always loved about Patino teams. They'd always feel like they never ran out of gas. Yes. And their stamina was better than everyone else for sure. So what was that like the practices and how it trained? So I was miserable. So

to be honest, I was, my, my years at at Louisville I was miserable. I woke up every morning pissed because like I wasn't playing but I was still having to do these ridiculously hard workouts So in practice he has this thing if you turn the ball over You go in the treadmill or if you mess up you go in the treadmill. So we were number one in the country So I'm in the second unit. So I'm playing against the number one press in the country So I'm gonna turn the ball over right turn the ball over, he says go to the treadmill. So then I got to a point where it was like, I'm sick, you're turning the ball over too much Chris, when you turn the ball over you're gonna run outside and you're gonna hold the pizza, you're gonna hold the sign up, a Papa John sign, and

say like hiring, like I'm looking for a job, and he tried to do that to like humiliate me so I wouldn't turn the ball over. So yeah, that was some very interesting coach Patino moments. But it took me, I had to be removed like three or four years to be like, wow, he actually taught me a lot. Yeah. Did you stop turning the ball over after you had to do the hiring? No, we were the number one team in the country. I was going to turn it over regardless, for sure.

When you put on that white suit, did you know that he meant business? That was like serious, Rick? I did, I did. That was a dope night. That was a white, all the fans were wearing white. I think it was against Marquette. I wanna say maybe Jimmy Butler was on the Marquette team.

That was a dope night. Yeah, so we're on the precipice of the season and you're training, I know you do in-season training, but a lot of this stuff happens this summer the one thing I always love about the NBA is the best guys it feels like they find one thing that they get way better at in the summer yep can you tell us one or two guys that you've trained that you're like watch out for this part of the yeah so Paulo Ben Carol yeah for the magic he's coming off of his first all-star season his shot I

feel like he's gonna be a very good shooter this year. I think that'll change everything for him. I think that'll make him one of the best players in the league. That's one. Number two, let's think of a player that's changed. I don't know, I'm just, I can't believe it's this mind-boggling to me that LeBron James is 39 Yeah, still like dunking and still playing like he's 29. I just I think he's gonna have a great season He's coming off being MVP of the Olympics That whole him and brawny thing. I'm excited about that. So did you train him at all this summer? Yeah, is he still trying to add things to his game?

Yeah, he's just trying. His shot continues to get better. If you look at the last three or four years, his three is getting better. Yeah. And I think that's something that you need to do as you get older. You need to develop a shot.

Yeah, and how much of that is your direction versus does a player come in in the offseason and say, hey, this is what I want? Or do you say, hey, I've watched your game, I think this is what we can add? So how it is is they come in, they'll say, what do you think I need to work on? And then they'll tell me what they think

they need to work on. Depending on like if it's a star player, I'm not gonna be like, no, I don't think so. But you have some delusional players that come in that might be like the eighth man and might wanna be like, I wanna work on ISO moves, but you have some delusional players that come in that might be like the eighth man and might want to be like, I want to work on ISO moves, but it's like, well, you never in an ISO situation, why are we doing that? So it just depends on the player. Yeah.

Yeah. So it's interesting because there's some players that have unorthodox shooting styles, right? But they're effective. Terence Halliburton. Halliburton's one, if you want to go back like Sean Marion another guy that Nobody learns how to shoot like Sean Marion, right? But if it goes in then it works But if you're working with a guy that might have an unorthodox shooting style Yep, and he might be in a little bit of a slump

How do you go about fixing that because like your mechanics that you normally teach might not apply to this guy for sure Again, it's just like a mental game and with the shot. So I'm with the Knicks and Phil Jackson gets the job. And he's literally brings in the head coach, fires him, brings in the assistant coach, fires him. He's firing the whole staff. So I call my dad, I'm like, just so you know, I'm about to get fired right now. Going to the interview with Phil and Phil's like,

I have one question, you're a shooting coach, right? And I'm like, yeah, and he's like, tell me, what do you need to be a good shooter? Do you need to, like, is there one form? Do you need to hop into it? Do you need to step into it? And my answer was, no, there's not one way to shoot, as long as you have good rotation

and you have a good follow through. He liked that answer, and I was actually the only guy that he kept. Oh, wow. So that was, so, the whole shooting thing just being open minded to it. Yeah. I think that's a big thing. It feels like too with shooting it's like it's everyone can shoot a different way. The being able to repeat the motion too is big. Yes. How do you feel about your shot? Bad. Bad. It was I actually when we first opened this office it was getting better. Yep. Because we had the shotgun so I was getting like you know a couple hundred threes up a day. Yep.

But we've been with football and everything. I haven't like shot in a long time. Are you someone that needs to like see the ball go in for a few workouts and then you'll shoot good the next day. So you can maybe explain this to me. I don't know. I mean I've played pickup for a long time. I always find if I don't play basketball for a while, my very first pickup game is incredible. And then it just goes off. That's that's definitely a thing. That's a mental thing. So the fact that you're saying that so that so yeah, yeah, if I don't pick up a basketball for a couple months, then I go play pickup. I make everything. And then if I play the next day, I miss everything.

And so mentally, you telling yourself that is probably the reason why that happens. I'm mentally weak, yeah. But no, but also, that also shows that you can shoot and that some guys, it's amazing. I don't wanna say, I'll say the guy's name. So, D'Angelo Russell, one summer, when he was with the Nets, we worked closely, we did three on-court

workouts the whole offseason. That was it. And he was all-star that year just because his mental is so strong, his confidence. So it's, it's, every player is different. There's no one right way to shoot. There's no one right way to work. It's interesting. Yeah. How big of a freak is a guy like Wimby? Because it feels like big guys, they grow up shooting now Yeah, back in the day. It's like they none of these guys had an outside shot But Wimby in particular given how unique his his body frame is for him to be that good at shooting He feels like just an absolute freak Wemby is the future of the league. He's I think he'll be a

MVP multiple times. He worked at Jamal Crawford closely this summer. That was his trainer. And Jamal was telling me, he's like, we've mastered the mellow footwork, we've mastered the dirt footwork, we've mastered the, he goes to sleep every night at 8.30. He's like, he's like a machine. If he stays healthy, I think he'll be one of the greatest

players that we've ever seen. When did that happen when big guys all got together and they said, you know what we're going to shoot too. Yeah. Honestly, I think like around 2014, 15, I remember when, uh, I don't know if I remember Ennis Caner. He was like a great big man. And then all of a sudden that was like no space for him in the league along with some other things that, but it became like, if you can't shoot, you can't, there's no spot for you in the league. Yeah. It was interesting. Yeah. Yeah. What, uh, how long did it take you to perfect teaching the Euro step,

the Euro step because it's obviously somewhat new. I mean, it's been around for a while now. You've seen it became such a big part of the, yeah. In the last 10 years, it's just everyone has to have one and has to be, I think working with James, I work with James closely for a few summers. James Harden. He had James Harden. He was in, that was like one of his things, like the Euro step, the side step, Working with James, I worked with James closely for a few summers. James Harden. Yeah, James Harden. That was one of his things. The euro step, the side step, the step back.

A lot of players, I learned stuff through and I definitely learned how to teach that to James. Yeah. What about guys trying to get an edge every offseason, trying to figure out how the referees are calling the game, trying to figure out how to draw more fouls? Do they practice that? They're all manipulating the ref's things. So you know how they change the rules.

So that hurt, you know, James Harden and that hurt Trey Young. They were getting to the free throw line 20 times a game by, you know, throwing their body into the player. Then they changed that rule. You can't do that anymore. So I think the rules have changed. So it's tougher for players to manipulate the game. Yeah, which is probably better for the game for sure. Yeah, how much do these guys train with you in the season?

So it will be like long home stretches. It'll be like times when they lose their confidence They might hit me up like yo Chris come to Chicago. I've no confidence. You gotta use this gym now Yes, next time you come you got to come back and we got to do a video I know we're in transition right now sure I'm in Barstool, but we know we need a content piece where I work you Yes, yeah, we're all the way in so we got to do it this season Let's do it now give you guys a bunch of NBA drills, and we'll see what we get yeah Just imagine like hypothetically a five foot eight and a half guy Let's say he's 39 years old his three-point shot looks like he's never seen a basketball before okay

How long how good do you think you could make that? Hypothetical person if he had two months to just work on a shot. I think I could do it So I have a cool story so Jay Cole came up to me Three years ago, and he said Chris this might sound crazy, but I want to be a pro basketball player I'm I'm I'll get some crazy Yeah, I'll give you three months and I'll trust in you every single day. He put his kids to sleep Drive his bike to the gym at like 9 p.m For the first month we only shot with one hand in the paint for a month straight

Which like that's a different type his mentality is different to do that month to we Put two hands on the ball and we only shot mid-range Month three we started shooting threes. He actually signed a contract to play in like the NBA Africa League Played professionally in Canada and he actually got a knockdown jump shot. So you give me three months I didn't say me I said this is a hypothetical down jump shot so you give me three months I didn't say me I said this is a hypothetical I might need to do this it's not me three months and get my shot wet for sure how many hours would this with this person have to put in per day an hour and a half a night five about five days a week you could I think this

person could probably do that yeah that this person could do that whoever he or she is yeah yeah can you make anyone taller? Ah? Really find some storage Oh, yeah, well our guy here Hank. He's trying to dunk. How does he? Hank will you six feet six feet so he's so we made a bet with him Okay, he's got a dunk by the end of the year. We made this bet like four months ago He's been training really hard. You're 31 31. He's been training really hard He is six inches away from dunking right I got something for you. Okay, literally this sounds so elementary get a jump rope and Six days a week do a thousand jump ropes sets at 250 I

Bet that if you do that, if you can do that for whatever, a few months, that you'll be able to dunk. All right, so if he dunks because of this, you're gonna have to pay for some of this. Cause we have to pay him, I think, 10 grand each if he dunks. And we're planning on it. It's coming out of your pocket now.

Forget about that. I shouldn't have asked for the advice. But he's all, he's all, he's been training for what? Like four months, five months? so what's your training consist of what Have you been lifting with your legs jumping? What's uh? Yeah a lot of legs plyometrics I've got like an actual you know guy that's got a program that's built specifically for for jumping But you guys remember growing up those like jump those uh, yeah Yeah, but then they're like tearing people's a kill

those shoes with them. But then they're like tearing people to kill. Yeah, right. Right. Right. That's why that thing goes up. Yeah. I imagine that there is a lot of junk science in the basketball shooting industry, right? For sure. Like some people that just don't know what they're talking about, trying to do like an easy fix. For sure. So what's the craziest thing that you've seen? The craziest thing that I've seen? I don't know. I've seen some trainers come up with this some weirds I don't know that has been some weird stuff. Some trainers have like very weird. What about hypnosis? With that like hypnotizing somebody, you know, like you know what that actually could work with like some guy That's like mentally like remember the whole Markel Foltz. Yeah, I think

Someone like that like yeah when he was in his, like the whole mental, maybe I'll add that to my list. So you train LeBron's son, Bronnie, and Mello's son. Which of the two is like, their game is most like their father's? Kyan, Kyan Anthony, yeah. I think he might go to Syracuse too. He's a top 30 player in the country. He's like six, six like six six six seven now I've seen him from like a little kid now

he's now he's one of the top players in the country wow he's gonna be really good yeah yeah so who is who in the NBA has had the most improved shot that you've worked with who's like kind of went from one um I guess it cut cut kind of a cool story CJ McCollollum. So I started working with CJ and he wasn't playing much for Portland. We worked the whole summer and he became NBA's most improved player. So that was like a cool like instant like you know you could see it. Kawhi Leonard, we worked this summer he wanted to learn Mello's footwork and after that he got finals MVP and kind of like broke

out so that's some cool stories where you know we put the work in and it showed yeah how good of a shooter is lethal shooter great shooter I mean he just every video he just yeah no he's a great shooter yeah I'm definitely I'm a fan his content yeah do you guys do you have like a text chain with all the NBA trainers not so I don't. A lot of NBA trainers are like haters to other trainers and stuff. I'm not that guy.

I support. Unless you're doing some like bullshit, I support you. Yeah. And I support Lee the Shooter for sure. Yeah. Are there any like turf wars between coaches and you? For sure. It used to be a lot.

Just because I use social media. I'll post the workouts, you know a Few like maybe eight years ago. No one was doing that and so I definitely got backlash and you know Some of the agents didn't like me some of them but now I've grown a brand that shows that it's worked So I don't really get much that anymore. Yes. Yes. So your brand has gotten so crazy that you were in the last year's was it last year's NBA 2k? Yeah, and my in my gym. Yeah in your gym. Do you know that people were like mad at you about it? I found a comment online. I said Fuck Chris Brickley all my homies hate Chris Brickley this motherfucker man. I wish I could punch his ass in game

Why is he a better defender than prime kawaii? Never doing the brickly weekly thing again bra. AIs are fucking crackheads in this game. Yes. I actually seen that that's actually hilarious It has been the video game world for sure. I pissed a lot of people off sometimes you can't get into my gym Yeah It's in I'll be in the airport and like that airport security guy will be like man I can they like give me a little attitude. It's interesting that whole video game thing that kind of changed my life I didn't realize how many people play two games. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you ever walk around just doing the shooting motion. Just like No, but in the house I will I'll be like, you know fake dribbling. Yeah, you got to cross someone up every now

I got you. Yeah, are you really get a beer pong um? I'm actually not that good. I'm That is a couple days, so you could teach me that I can fix that in ten minutes. Just get a little bit drunk. Yeah, okay. I have three or four beers Yeah, that's the way to do it. Let's do it. Yeah, I come train you guys. We'll also play a game of beer pong Yeah, I want I want to I want you to train us and get all of our shots just wet We need that we need that all right well this has been awesome man We really appreciate you coming by I have one last question so row back question rh oba CK calm

promo code take 20% off your first purchase qzips polos hoodies joggers shorts Row back calm promo code take who's the one player that you'd love to train that you haven't been able to? It could be actually, could be someone retired too. But who's the one guy? Steph. Okay. Yeah. So I had, so about three years ago, Steph hit me and it was the very end of the summer I was done my runs. He was like, uh, yo Chris, can you put together a run for me? There wasn't enough NBA guys in the city at the time I couldn't do it so that didn't work out, but since then I want to see how good he is Do you have guys that are not NBA guys? But like do you have in your phone that you can be like hey?

I need you to come play because Kawai's in town. I Yeah, like I kind of like overseas guys the guys these but I do have a few a few of those guys But you never want too many of those guys the runner look crazy But if I need like two guys to fill in guys Yeah Do you ever let like are you ever like one one guy gets hurt and there's a guy on the treadmill at your building You're like hey actually literally that just happened It was a run that went super viral

It was like Jalen Brunson versus Emmanuel quickly Aaron Gordon a bunch of me guys are playing we only had ten guys someone got hurt We went and found a random guy Working out and we're like yo Can you just plan this run for a little bit and he played in the run and was he like terrible or was no? I told me couldn't shoot. Oh, okay. That makes sense. I mean, that's a dream Yeah, like being like yeah, I played pickup with Jalen Brunson and Manuel quickly. That's awesome. That guy's got to pull one though. Yeah. If he's open, it's like they're disrespecting man. And I think he might've shot a shot or a layup. Um, yeah. You should have,

you should have the Papa John sign ready to go when you, when that situation comes up, be like, Hey, if you shoot a shot, you're going to go outside. Coach B style. Yeah, Coach B style. Well, thank you so much, man. Thank you. Really appreciate it, it was awesome to have you on. And yeah, we gotta set it up. I'll be back. Give us a whole workout.

100%. I'm just gonna say, I'm rooting for Ben Simmons this year. Yeah. I wanna see what you can do. I like to hear that. Yeah, I mean, it would be a great comeback story. Because the internet is brutal. That's what, the internet's a is a terrible terrible place tears everyone

down and hopefully you know but they but the internet loves a comeback story too. Yeah they do. Yeah so everyone will just all of a sudden be like I was always a Ben Simmons fan. I'll just say I became a Ben Simmons fan. I'll be nice about it. Yeah I'll just lie. Yeah and say I've always ruined it. I never went against him. Yeah that's what they do. Yeah well thanks, thanks so much, man. Appreciate it. Thank you. Chris Brickley was brought to you by part of my cheesesteak football is back. It's in full gear and ordering part of my cheesesteak for your game day meal or late night eats is the best play call you can make. Part of my cheesesteak brings you awesome cheesesteaks, loaded fries delivered right to your doorstep

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Yeah, it was a very fun dude to talk to also during that interview with Chris Brickley if I was sounding flustered That's the day that my El Camino broke down in traffic and I was like 20 minutes late That was yeah, and I like sprinted in and then just sat down my chair. I was like, okay interview Yeah, they showed up and I was like Yeah, PFT is on his way, but his El Camino broke down. Like what? Yeah. But really cool guy. And we're going to have him come back. So it was the court was inoperable at the moment when he came. Uh, he's going to come back and we're going to do a training video with him. Yeah. He's going to get us wet. Guys on chicks. What athlete do you I don't know if there's guys on chicks really, but but what athletes you guys think you have spent the most hours of your

Lifetime watching for instance for max might be Jason Kelsey because of watching every Eagles game in his long tenure But then you also have to factor in how many hours we've spent watching Brady and LeBron in their insane Longevity and always playing in the big games. I think it might be Brady or yeah like Manning or Brady I'll Braun It or yeah, like Manning or or Brady a little Braun. Yeah, actually the bronze probably the answer is of the time Yeah more games. Yeah, yeah, 20 years every postseason. Yeah, it's LeBron David Ortiz is probably up there for me I think it's got it Yeah it's got to be like a baseball player that you that has been around for a long time because there's so many more baseball games and

There are I guess basketball, but you're not watching every LeBron. I'm not watching every baseball game either. Like a player on a team that I don't, I'm not invested in. Like I'm not sitting and watching Mike Trapp games, you know? Think about how much LeBron you've probably watched. I mean, you've watched every playoff game he's ever been in. True. And he's been in a million playoff games. I think it might be LeBron Most watched athlete. Yeah Tiger Woods sneaky up there though hours now, but he doesn't play enough. Yeah Yeah, I think I think LeBron is yeah LeBron Brady is probably up there, too Yeah, it's probably that my homes if he plays for a long time just because

You can now like watch every game no matter what there's probably or. Mahomes, if he plays for a long time, just because you can now watch every game no matter what. But there's so many last football games. Mine's probably Ortiz. Yeah, mine's probably Ortiz. Ortiz was 2004 to 2000. But LeBron has just been around for so goddamn long. It's crazy. How many playoff games has LeBron played in? Let's see.

Probably, I'm gonna guess what, 98? 287 playoff games. It's LeBron. Yeah. That's an insane amount of playoff games. Is that like four seasons worth of playoff games? Hey, you've been watching every single one. Like you, there might be a couple that you missed,

but for the most part, you watched every LeBron playoff game. Yeah. I came home from a trip and there are bite marks on my good cheese, like two giant bite marks. I asked and he said he didn't want the dishes. Is this normal behavior? Is this a guys on dogs? Sounds like a mouse. No, I think she's saying she, she left the house, went on a trip came back and then her boyfriend or husband ate the cheese but didn't cut it with a knife. Yeah. What do you expect? Yeah, no, I mean, I would actually expect cutting with

knife because I just do the paper towel move where I just make a plate with a paper towel. Yeah, but sometimes you just open up the fridge and there's cheese in there and then you're just like, I'll take it just quick nibble. Did you think he ate the cheese and then put a cracker in his mouth? I'll do that. Some made a combined sandwich in your mouth, made his own Ritz bits. Yeah.

This is about just gotta take a bite. Yeah. Sometimes you gotta take, if it's good cheese, you gotta do it. I don't understand. You live a bite mark. Like did he, did he sink his, that is savage behavior. You have to, like you should be able to get a clean clean to make it look like you cut it. Because I do the rip. Like, if we have banana bread, I rip it and then I'll come back and cover my tracks. Yeah, that is...

I think the smartest move is to go in and just break the triangle corner off the cheese with your fingers. Your finger and your thumb, and then you just pop that in. Yeah. Yeah, the bite marks doesn't make a lot of sense. That's a savage. I was working in the hospital on Sunday and decided I want to make soup for dinner. I instacarted everything I needed to be delivered. I come home later to find out my

husband is mad at me for dumping all those groceries on me to carry upstairs and put away without asking me first. His reasoning is that it's football Sunday and he also wanted the flexibility to take a nap without having to get up for coaches sitting outside. My husband is ridiculous, right? We're currently trying for our first baby. Won't he have to temper his Sunday expectations a little when we have our baby? Thanks, guys. I love this guy because his wife is possibly pregnant. Wait, wait, wait, wait. wait. Yeah. Yeah. There's a follow up. Oh man, they're fighting.

I love this. Hey fellas, this is the husband from the grocery store. To be clear, it was three heavy bags of 20 items plus a case of water bottles. Just saying love the show and my marriage. Okay. All right. So, so I love this guy because my marriage. Okay. All right. So, so I love this guy because number one, his wife, she might be pregnant. Number two, she's working at a hospital, like saving people's lives during the day.

Number three, ordered ingredients from a grocery store so she can come home and make him soup. And he just wants to sit on the couch and watch football. He's like, I had to take these groceries up the stairs. She ruined my Sunday. Yeah. I'm going to side with the wife here. And let me just explain it in a football analogy, because this guy is a football guy.

You got to take the easy check down every now and then. There's certain things that if you had just done five minutes of putting the groceries away, you're a hero. You took the easy pass, just get a completion and don't have them come home and be like, what the hell is this? I would say you're like Harrison Bucker, not in the way of him talking about women, but in the way of you're mad at Patrick Mahomes

for not getting the ball on the hash mark that you like it for a Super Bowl winning kick. Yeah, the easy completions are all around us. You just gotta keep picking them up. Take out the trash before you're asked to. Yeah. Clean the dishes. If there's a couple dishes in there, just clean them up. Easy completions make you an elite quarterback. That's actually one of my favorite moves. If you're ever at like a significant other's house, and maybe it's your first or second time being around the family, go in the kitchen, take the trash bag out, take it out to the trash can without being asked.

And everyone's like, wow, this is you you married a hero. Yeah, it's a long time. Like Thanksgiving morning, I always talk about I always preach to everyone because you know, you're gonna watch football and sit on the couch and get drunk and eat. Thanksgiving morning, find one thing that is like, I'll go get ice or I'll go do this. Oh, we got to pick up the pies. Just do the one thing that everyone like oh he went and did that Checkmark and announce it to make sure everyone knows that you did that thanks winding up for breaking right now breaking moves

Yeah, we can end on this unfortunate breaking moves banner night for the Celtics meanwhile Yeah, we can end on this unfortunate breaking moose. I know. Banner night for the Celtics. Meanwhile, Joel Embiid and Paul George are out for the opener of his Bucks on Wednesday. Ah! Load management, I like it. Embiid is progressing well and ramping up. Scrimmaging this week, he will not play this week.

George will be re-evaluated later in the week. He's fine. Oh, damn. This sounds fine. It's... It's October basketball. Do you have anything to say? Who gives a fuck about October basketball? Do you have anything who gives a fuck about October?

Basketball do you have any idea for tonight? Yeah, you're a loser Well, it's literally banner figuratively Hi, do you have anything to say max about literally Jared McCain bothering everyone with his vlogging that was funny Yeah, you guys see that Turn that off I mean, that's just that's just like vet rookie, you know, just back and jabs back and forth Let let the new guy do his little tic-tacs and the old guy is gonna be mad about it. Yeah, it's fun stuff fun stuff

I love that. No, that was that was fun. That was fun stuff, but we're not concerned about and beat and Paul George be not No, it's fucking October. Okay, who gives a shit. Is it a good omen or a bad? Would you rather than play? I? Don't care. Yeah, I would rather than play. All right, so then okay matters a little it matters maybe like One percent. Okay. I don't know what the percentage is of but it's 1% 1% of something. It's usually 100 my brain Yeah, would prefer them to play Yeah, I yeah, I guess I won't watch that game now on Wednesday Shit you sound like actually yes, I will yeah you will max. He'll go off Yeah, I'll go for like yabu yabu Jeremy Kay, Jeremy Kane

You gotta watch it. It's you gotta watch it because then it's like watching a Hard Knocks preseason game. You're gonna get to watch the vlog later. Of buying the scenes. And Andre Drummond, great backup center now. Not as good as B-Ball Paul. I love B-Ball Paul. Yeah, don't say anything about B-Ball Paul.

All right, good show boys Hank have fun Yeah, you're a little joyous tonight The one word you can't use for banner night is calling Hanka loose, but Hank I mean he is a loser No, I mean objectively speaking Hank is the biggest winner on the show not on the literal sense yes in the literal sense. Yes. In the other sense. What's the other sense? I don't know. What are you trying to say?

That Hank's the worst. Oh, agreed, agreed. Say that. You should've said that. Say that. Probably I'm the worst because I win. Yeah, partially. That's why you think I'm the worst.

If I was a loser you'd feel bad for me. Numbers. Oh, Hank's a good guy. Numbers. Like you, that's what they say about you like oh max Love them great guy three 18 five great sports a lot of better human beings 17 memes I gave you a pause there Yeah, three what I said about Max a funny 99 put 21

99 put 21 17 for memes memes and pft have never gotten this 24 24 Love you guys. Hey, kiss all of us, man. So So So So So So Thanks for watching!