Pardon My Take - CFB With Tom Fornelli, Mt Rushmore Of Italians And Football Guy Of The Week

Episode Date: September 6, 2022

College Football is all the way back. We recap a crazy 5 days of College Football to kick off the season. UNC/App State, Georgia throttling Oregon and more (00:02:05-00:20:31). Who's back of the week including a deep dive into Brendan Fraser's career plus Harry Styles spit on Chris Pine (00:20:31-00:43:26). Our good friend Tom Fornelli joins the show to recap a crazy Week 1 of College Football, 12 game playoff and more (00:43:26-01:26:09). We then do the Mt Rushmore of Italians (01:26:09-01:43:59). We finish with the return of Football Guy of the Week(01:43:59-01:53:08).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Go to the Account tab to create a login and redeem code PMT for $20 off your first purchase. Today is Tuesday, September 6th, and football is back. That was a great weekend, wasn't it? Starting on Thursday night, and I know we didn't get a chance to wrap up the backyard brawl on Friday's part of my take, but that was a hell of a way to get into a first full actual real weekend of football. It was that game, the backyard brawl, which was amazing, and then it went seamlessly into Penn State Purdue fourth quarter, and it was just from that moment on, off and running,

college football. I don't know why, like we were talking about it before, how college football, it's so much fun. Sundays do kind of like swallow up college football once NFL comes back. They should start college football season in fucking July, because it was like- I just started after this thing to be a spring sport now. Dude, it was so fun watching just wall-to-wall college football. My only critique of the entire weekend was, and it's similar to whenever we have March

Madness and then you get to that Monday and you're like, what do I do now? Sunday afternoon, I was just like, give me a couple games. Why can't Houston and UTSA play now? That game was great. There was nothing until it led into the LSU-FSU game, which I think everybody hates Brian Kelly now. I think that's kind of where we're at. There are Brian Kelly.

Yeah. We get into that with Tom a little bit. I did look up his buyout, actually. What is it? So it's tough to say, because you have to do some negotiations on his behalf, because it wouldn't be the full amount of his contract, which at this point would be like $90 million left over. You have to assume it'd be somewhere between like $75 million and $85 million right now

to buy out Brian Kelly. I say go for it. Go for it. Right now, you're throwing good money after bad. Do you know what it takes? One donor. That's it. It takes one rich donor.

What if Coach O gives back his buyout, and then we get two rich donors to match? It was the fact that it was in New Orleans in front of a crazy crowd. I think that they miked up the bands extra for that game, which every college game should be that, because the bands and FSU trolling by playing Neck All Night, which was fucked up, especially because if you win the game, then you can shove it back in their face. The fact that you lose on such a tragic extra point like the whole, I mean, the whole weekend. It was, AppState UNC was just like the most incredible game to watch, where that game, the fact that the UNC kid returned the onside kick for a touchdown and it was actually a

terrible, terrible play just shows you how crazy that game had gotten. It was nuts. So AppState scored 40 points in the fourth quarter of that game, and they should have gotten that first two-point conversion. Yep. Where the receiver just kind of started backpedaling really fast, and people forget like it's hard to run fast backwards. You got to turn around and run underneath that ball.

And then on that kickoff, everybody was like, get down, get down, no, he ran it back. Then they go back down the field. I think everybody knew when you were watching UNC's weird zone defense that they play, they just take like eight guys, tell them drop back 15, 20 yards, and then just stand perfectly still facing the quarterback. Do you know what it looked like? It looked like when you play Madden or college football video game and you played on rookie or freshman.

And it's like, this is so easy. Every pass is a 30-yard pass, and then every third is a touchdown. It's like you're playing against the light blue traffic cones. Yeah. They just weren't moving at all. Gene Chiswick, like what? I don't even know. You have to fire him?

Do you? I mean, the fact that it happened, and then the next day, Jackson State shout out D. Leon, his kid is awesome. He was 17 for 17 to start the game. But the fact that Jackson State shut down FAMU is what Jack Require was calling FAMU. And like UNC gave up 24 points to them. How do you? It was like a double whammy that they had the app state game, and then the next day you

get to watch a team actually play defense. I love watching old-ass Mac Brown have to dance after all these games. Oh, it's so great. It is pretty good. He's got a gut. He's got some moves. Oh, he's got some moves. Yeah, he's very hungry.

The Argyle looks real smooth on an old guy trying to dance. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it is like the Carolina Blues the best color in the game, and somehow Mac Brown makes it look not great. Yeah. So I was actually hanging out with Arian Foster this weekend, and when we were watching that game, he was like, you know, I actually wanted to go to UNC.

I had never watched him play, never been on campus, but I was willing to sign a letter of intent to go there just because of how cool their uniform is. I have a longstanding theory that at least 30% of UNC alum and current students are there just because of the colors, because that's how good the colors are. Like, because when you pick a school, that's your color for life. You get to wear that forever. If you're a UNC alum, you get to just wear Carolina blue polo every day, and everyone's like, what's up?

Yeah. It's like, oh, well, I went to Carolina. It's fantastic. Yeah. And yeah, that's why that's how I chose my rugby team, too, was because they were light blue. I want to wear sky blue. It's a great color.

It's a great color. I'm trying to think of, I mean, Georgia was, I really still can't imagine what it must be like to be on the Oregon sideline and be like, we're this far away, because that's really what it comes down to is like, it wasn't just an asking, it was a referendum on everything Oregon's been building where it's like, yeah, this is nice. You guys have had Mario Cristobal put together some incredible recruiting classes, like historically great Oregon recruiting classes. And they're still that far away.

Yeah. It was it was like watching an NFL team play against a college team also Georgia might be better. I'm kind of kind of thinking Stetson Bennett might be a pro, even though he's got like the best team around him. He looked awesome. So he did look good, but I mean, he did have yeah, but he was it was different sized people competing just put him on a really good NFL team.

There you go. Boom. Put him on the Patriots. He'll be great. And I was when I sat down and watched this game, I was like, okay, 17 is a lot of points. A lot of points. That's a lot of points. Oregon, there's they're not that bad, right?

17 is a lot of points. This lady next to me at the sports book in Lake Charles just leans over and says, honey, they're going to get shut out, maybe allow a field goal right off the bat. And I was like, oh, she just honeyed me and getting honeyed is I think it's worse than getting getting buddied. Yeah. Or paled. Although it's endearing a little bit.

But it was a condescending honey. It was a very she was like, bless your heart. They're not going to get points, but it's letting you down easy. And she was right. Yeah. And it wasn't. It felt like it could have been worse. That's the crazy part.

It could have been worse. Easily. Like it was. And again, Oregon's not a bad team. This isn't a team that like they will win, I don't know, seven, eight, nine games. Like they'll still be good in the pack 12. They just you can't be on the field with them. We saw, we basically ripped off the Band-Aid and got to see the January 1st college football

playoff game that's going to happen between Alabama or Georgia and whoever gets the four seat. Yeah. Because that's exactly what's going to happen. I don't know what other team. We're watching Clemson right now and their offense, they're the same team. They've actually picked it up a little, but they're the same team as last year. That defense is incredible.

It's really good. But Georgia, like watching Georgia, they don't have any weaknesses. I have a crazy. Their biggest weakness is their returning quarterback that won them a national championship. Right. That's Georgia's biggest issue. Yeah. The guy, no one trusts where everyone's like, someone's like, yes, that's embedded.

He's not very good. Oh, he's not very good. Okay. What's the worst could happen? They could win another national title. I don't know. I mean, he did step up big in that game for Clemson. I have a question.

This is very stupid question. I know it's, it doesn't work, but I'm going to ask it anyway. When you have that good of a defensive line, why not put a couple of them in offensive line? Cause there are a whole line sucks. Just be like, you guys are so good. Just maybe play both sides of the ball. I think you could have, if you said, just like run the ball, we're just going to run

it. Yeah. Like you guys are such insane athletes and you're so good at playing defensive line. You can't be, you, you would probably be better than a bad offensive line. I think so. Yeah. There are some teams that have done that in the past and had players play two ways. Just be Dabbo.

That actually would fit Dabbo too. Where he like just gets guys is like, yeah, you're going to have to play every down. Just our biggest, strongest guys are just going to be trenches and no NL money for you, but you have to play both sides of the ball. It's just, you just get labeled as a trench guy. Yeah. Not offense, not defense. Trenches.

We got the best trench team. You just do the trench. There shouldn't be that big of a difference, but I feel like they put so much more time into making sure their defensive line and their tackles and their ends are like explosive and fast. Right. And they just take their offensive line and they're like, okay, we're just going to get you fat.

Right. We're just going to get you as big as possible. That's true. They, they do the offensive linemen. I love, I love always seeing like offensive linemen when they come as freshmen and they're like 230 pounds and then there and then like a year and a half later with a weight program and food. They're like 290.

Jumping back to Stetson Bennett real quick. Did we ever figure out, is he, does he have any siblings that are older than him? I don't know. Is he, because it would be very funny if his dad, who was Stetson Bennett III, I would imagine had a couple of kids, like a couple of boys who's like, no, not yet, no, you're not Stetson. And then the third kid that came out, that's Stetson. That does.

That's Stetson IV right there. Yeah. He's the oldest of five. Ah. And his brothers are Knox, Luke and Maverick. Oh, God. That is so southern. That is so southern.

Knox, Luke and Maverick. I feel like the Stetson Bennett family just decided to keep having Stetson Bennett until one fulfilled the destiny of becoming the Georgia national champion quarterback. Yeah. Luke Bennett, definitely. He could be a nice over-the-middle type wide receiver. Really? I feel like Luke Bennett is the lawyer that gets Maverick Bennett out of all his outlaw

and jams. Maverick Bennett is definitely the country music guy. And Knox used the twins. Oh, okay. Wait. It's Luke and who? Luke and Knox. Maverick is the country music guy.

And then, yeah, Luke. Luke and Knox have definitely pulled the Eiffel Tower before. Yes. I feel like I'm saying. For sure. We know that. All twins kiss. All right.

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It's so funny how quickly when football comes back, everything else ceases to exist. I think Dylan Cease for the White Sox had a no-hitter, I think, all the way to the ninth inning. They were trying to flash the graphics on the ESPN bottom line and was like, who cares? Did he actually have one? No, he had one. Because he's not my fancy team. He had one.

He did not end up having a no-hitter. I can't remember when he gave it up because I literally was like, football's on. I have to watch and see if Iowa can get another safety. That's good because he's on my bench. I didn't start him. That would have been a disaster. Huge news. But it dawned on me like, oh yeah, baseball's still going on.

I care again in October. Technically baseball is going on. But football is back. It takes everything. All my mental energy just goes to football. Yeah, college football all day Friday, really, because I was spending all day Friday decompressing from what happened on Thursday night and then getting ready for the earlier games on Friday. That day was a wash Saturday all day.

Forget about it. And there's so many games going on on Saturday that you forget are even happening. And then you get the live look-in occasionally and you forget, oh yeah, that's actually, I totally forgot about UTEP Oklahoma during the game. Oh, I didn't. I had the double on that. Yeah, I was going to say I didn't forget about it even because I had 43 plays, I think. So that was too many.

Oh, shout out Dana. Yeah. His best friend, Dana Holgerson. A lot of haters out there will be like, oh, classic Houston, not playing defense, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, 37, 35, no, no, no. They went to what? Three overtime? Three overtime.

Three overtime. So Dana, bad news for the rest of college football, Dana learned how to coach defense. I also hate the new rule of the double, I know it was a new rule last year, but you have to go for two after the third overtime. It was very confusing. The third overtime sucks. But yeah, Dana, I was watching that game, fucking loud as hell at UTSA, that the worst basketball stadium in the world, what is it called?

Almodome. Yeah, Almodome. Sucks to watch basketball. Seems cool for football. Sucks to watch basketball. Dana's Mullet looks great too. Yeah. I do like how they're having the U.S. open like that.

That gives you a little bit of sports in the week, like meaningful sports. Actually, you know what? I like the U.S. Open being on TV right now. Something big happens. But then I like it on TV because you can just like laugh and be like, oh yeah, haha. What losers are watching the U.S. open right now? Well, they keep, what they keep doing is, because ESPN has the rights to it, they'll cut in in like, you know, a time out of the football game being like, also this is happening

on ESPN too. It's like, okay. Jake, Moosh, Serena Williams. That was nice of you, Jake. Yeah. Down goes the goat. You went to go see. You can't wait to see the goat.

Yeah, I saw her in doubles. And she got her ass kicked. With Venus. Yeah. What did you say? You mushed both of them. Did you tweet thanks, Serena? I think, oh, what a career or something like that.

You didn't do the hashtag thanks Serena? I did not do the hashtag. I did. Yeah. Serena comes up with a goat. It's pretty cool. I did the hashtag thanks, Serena. Yeah.

Did you get one of those giant balls? No. I got a honeyduce. What's that? It's a novelty drink there. You would love it. A honeyduce. Did you drink a water too?

Of course. Phew. That was close. Was it cool? How was the atmosphere? It was really, really cool. I think, even if you're not a tennis fan, you gotta enjoy it. But again, we'll get to my who's back, huge upset today.

Oh, what? They didn't let Jokovic play in this tournament? Nope. There can't be upsets when the best player doesn't play. No, there's a new guy. That's a good story. I'm a fan of this guy. Okay.

But there can't be upsets when the best player in the world doesn't play. It's not allowed to play because he has freedom of choice. Is that his only crime? No. A lot of open tournament now. Okay. I'm trying to think what other games? Florida.

Oh yeah. Anthony Richardson, Hank, you deserve all the credit. That was an electric, electric game. I loved too that they were like, Utah might be struggling with the humidity right as they show a guy puking. It's like, yep, that could be the case. Utah is still very, very good. It's just Anthony Richardson is the man.

People don't talk about the altitude affecting you in the reverse order too. Yeah. If you come from a high elevation, that air is just too thick, clogs you all up. You basically choke on the air when you get down to the swamp. I just like Cam Rising because I just think of Boomer, which is going to come back. Cam, bad moon rising. Yeah. Okay.

Ohio State Notre Dame. Oh yeah. I mean, it was not a great exciting game because everyone expected Ohio State to be fireworks. But we'll talk about it with Tom. We break down a bunch of stuff with Tom, more college football talk, 12 game playoff, all that stuff, and Mount Rushmore of Italians. I actually think that Cincinnati's loss to Arkansas is better for Cincinnati. Like it proved that they still kind of belong because you could say that they outplayed the

Razorbacks. Yeah, no. Yeah, they did. Although I do like Arkansas's quarterback. That was the battle of the PM Theory current guests. KJ Daniels. Yeah. Who?

Oh, Sam Pittman. Yeah. And Pittman. Yeah. Pittman's is the fucking man. They're both awesome. I like both teams, but I feel like Cincinnati had a lot to lose coming out this year. Everyone was going to be like, oh, last year was a fluke, et cetera, et cetera.

I think they're still very good. I think they're like a top 20 team all of a sudden. They went down to Fayetteville and held their own, and they were in that game. All right, let's do who's back, and then we will talk some more college football with Tom Fresneli. By the way, tomorrow we have a show. So Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday this week, tomorrow's show Pete Prisco and Stu Finer. I think it's the combined shortest guess we've ever had.

But we talk about NFL. We're going to break down who we like, wins, losses, all that stuff. Stu has quite the system of over-unders and how he did the whole NFL betting season. But before we get to who's back, it is brought to you by our friends at Visible. Here we talk about the greats, great games, great plays, and great wireless. Visible keeps upping their wireless games, so we're going to keep talking about them. Visible starts at just $30 a month for a one-line plan. Taxes and fees included.

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They've made huge shock waves in the sporting news. They came out and they said they're going to allow their players to play in shorts. Unless you're a woman. Unless you're a woman. Probably. And that, you know, it has PGA players shook. They don't let the women drive off the tee either. People joining live now after this announcement.

So shorts are back. Shorts are back. Yeah, a lot of players, I bet you're going to see like a big influx. VJ Singh's going to be like, wait, I can let these, I can let the gams out. Shorts. That's why Phil did it. My son made it the whole summer without wearing shorts, so he will not be joining the live tour.

Shout out to him. Just every day. No shorts. Pants. I've been bathing suit. Nope. We had to get, I had to get him like, like a swim, swim pants. It's listen.

I respect it. It's the old soprano line. A Don never wears shorts. So that's just, he's just, he's just the boss of the family. He doesn't wear shorts. I feel like Don's can wear shorts now though. I feel like things have really changed. That's a time capsule of like the year 2005, 2006.

Now I think shorts are everyone's game. Do you know that, uh, that was actually like a real thing that happened to James Gandolfini. He got called in the middle of the night random number and the person was like, hey, I like what you're doing, like you're a great actor, just so you know, a Don never wears shorts. I feel like. The fucking great. No, listen. A Don never wears shorts.

Times have changed. A Don never wears shorts. Also, just connecting some dots though, that video of Max Homa hitting the hole in one last week. Yeah. In shorts. Asterix. Hmm.

I will. Let me just say this. If Max Homa joins a live tour, I will never watch the live tour and I will berate him constantly. Brooks is fine. We expect Brooks to do it. Max. Uh-uh. I would say if they offer Max over a hundred million dollars.

No, I'm going to say he's a money grabbing. Like that's bullshit. Yeah. If they offer Max over that. Yeah. How can you? How can you fucking face your, your family? All that shit?

Uh, my other. Brooks is just living his best life. What if they just offer Max like three great looking golden retrievers? He's like, yeah, those are very cute. He wouldn't even, he would forget to ask for money. He might. He would be the worst live player ever. He wouldn't even be rich.

My other who's back is, is, is Brendan Frazier. Yeah. Oh, good. It's cons week. There's a lot of, a lot of cons drama. Anyone's going to talk about the, the Harry style situation, but. What happened Hank? Well, let me, let me get through Brendan first.

Okay. Uh, it's, it's cons film festival. This is the, the classic. Every time this happens, they do the standing ovations. Every movie there, people get like a 17 hour standing ovation. It's always someone. They always time it too. They always let you know.

Oh, they had the, the longest ovation ever. But Brendan Frazier apparently plays like a super fat guy wears a fat suit and it's like a very emotional movie. He's doing press. He got the big standing ovation. He was crying and then everyone, you know, is like, this is the, you know, his career is back. Brendan Frazier is back.

Hell yeah. I love that. Was it, was it ever gone though? Truly. Yeah. He, he'd like me too. And, and they got canceled. Wait.

He was, Brendan got me too. He, he came out being like, I got, like. He got harassed. Oh. And then he got blacklisted. So he got blacklisted for somebody else. I think he was blacklisted before because he wasn't a great actor. I think he's a great actor, but people might not have thought he was a great actor.

I mean, he got a standing ovation for, for seven minutes. No, he's back. Yeah. No, he's back. I think. His movies are good. Yeah. No, of course.

He was like jacked before, but then he got super fat. That kind of. That's bullshitting. Yeah. That's bullshit. Yeah. It was like the mummy three or something didn't do well. But then the rock, the rock tweeted, you know, everything we've just said is completely

guessed. I'm pretty sure I'm right. So let's see. He got, he got jerked off and then people were like, no, you can't be here anymore. That's really fucked up. Well, it was like some Harvey Weinstein shit where I was like, you got to do this or else I'm going to like kill your career and he spoke out and then his career got. So it was a guy named Philip Burke, who was the head of the Hollywood Foreign Press Association.

They hosted Golden Globes and Burke like sexually assaulted him. And then Bryn Fraser, like said, oh, you tried to make a joke and you grabbed my ass and all this stuff. And then Burke, I'm reading all this in real time right now, so I'm probably getting most of it wrong. Then Burke blacklisted Bryn Fraser afterwards, but now Bryn Fraser is back getting stand ovations at cons and probably future Oscar winner. But did the mummy three flop?

I don't know. But the rock tweeted it. Supported me coming into his mummy returns franchise for my first ever role, which kicked off my Hollywood career. So shout out to Bryn Fraser. I just he gave us the rock. I just looked up mummy three and the first people also ask is was the mummy three a flop. The film failed both critically and financially.

Shit. But that just I still love. I still love. Make it to the third movie. You're already right. Right. I still love one and the mummy two with those flops. No, school time is bedazzled with Elizabeth Hurley a flop.

Probably not. At least six times. Yeah. Bonk. Yeah. Great. Great. Bonk.

I'll wear that bonk proudly saying Encino man. Great movie. I'm just naming Brent George the jungle. Yeah. The bubble boy. Right. Was he the bubble boy? Was he?

I'm pretty sure it was a bubble boy. I think he was. Was he the bubble boy? Yeah. I thought that was someone else. And then you might be right. Yeah. It might be.

Yeah. He might have been bubble boy. The Harris. The Harris. Killing Hall was the bubble. Fuck. What's Steve Nebraska? What's Steve Nebraska?

The one he was the fucking pitcher. Oh, the natural, right? No, the natural is different. It's another one of those one word. The scout. The scout. The scout. Yeah.

I knew that. That's what I meant. Airheads. Dude, he came in in a helicopter and he pitched a perfect game and hit like five home runs. Didn't he pitch a perfect, I think he only threw strikes. I think it was an immaculate game. Yeah. Dude, this guy's a legend.

Fuck. The guy who grabbed his ass. Oh, wait. He's in Batgirl, too. Yeah. He was the penguin. Oh, really? He was a penguin in Batgirl.

Oh, no. Was he in Morbin? I'm not seeing anything. All right. Well, I just wanted on the record that we're a pro Brennan Frazier podcast. Yeah. Come on the show. And fuck that guy who grabbed his ass.

If I ever see him, I'll spit on him. I'm gonna just like Harry Styles and Olivia Wilde. Nice. Chris Pine. Chris Pratt. Yeah, Pine. John Pratt. Chris Pratt.

Chris Pine. I am going to have to do a little bit more research into what the actual drama is because it's one of those things where I knew that there was like tensions or whatever. I don't know what the actual tensions are between Olivia Wilde, who's the director, Florence Pugh, who's the actress, Harry Styles. There's some type of love triangle, controversy, co-star jealousy, actor stuff that I, full full hand up. I don't know.

I'm going to go out on the limb here and say that the issues revolve around cocaine and sex. But then tonight, maybe a card game. Tonight, there was a video of Harry Styles walking back to his seat. Chris Prine is sitting next to him. Pine. Chris Pine. John Prine.

Chris Pratt. Chris Pine. And Harry Styles appears to spit on Chris Pine, who like is like taking it back. And it's just like, what's going on here? What is going on? Charles is wearing maybe the most egregious collar that I've ever seen in my life. He's got like two neckties. Perfectly normal collar.

Perfectly normal collar. Find a new slant. I did a poll to ask the people because I also don't know what's going on. And I said, we'll just ride with whoever the people decide. And it was Harry Styles, 11%, Chris Pine, 27%. Okay. Where's the other? Aaron Rodgers in jail, 62% with the voting.

Do you think that they're just like trying to act bitchy towards each other like drum publicity for this movie that I've never heard of before this moment? I like that you're staying woke about it, Billy. We're kind of like the Chris Rock, Slap. Will Smith thing. Yeah. You were proven to be correct about that, right? So wrong.

I don't know. Who knows? Okay. They're all guilty. Does anyone know? What even is life? Here's my official takeaway on the situation. This fits weird.

They all kind of suck. And the new Harry Styles album is awesome. Wait, wait, wait. I don't. Harry Styles music is awesome. And Chris Pine is awesome in Helen Highwater. Oh, that's him in Helen Highwater. Yeah.

Oh, but Ben Foster's better in Helen Highwater. Both good. Final takeaway, Ben Foster, great actor. They're both really good. Harry Styles' new album kicks ass. Also, Harry Styles, I guess, is a Packers fan. So I'm Chris Pine for life. I think we settled that.

That was PMT talking Hollywood. We nailed every part of the last 10 minutes of the podcast. All right, PMT. My who's back in the week is Big Ben. Yeah. Ben Rothlesberger is back because he is hosting a podcast. I did not think that was going to happen. Oh, you mean the guy who created his own documentary?

No, I mean, big guy, is there anything about Big Ben? Just bear with me here. Yeah. In his past, where he would like go do a piece of media once a week every single week and talk about himself and about his coaches. Yeah. Has he ever? In my career, he's been doing that.

So now he's doing his own podcast. It's called Footballing, which is a fun little Pittsburgh way to say football. Nice. Because Big Ben played in Pittsburgh for a long time. So he's going to be doing a podcast and I'm sure that it's just going to devolve into him talking about various injuries. It should just be him talking about ranking the injuries that he's played through. I really hope it's just like I wouldn't have made that throw.

Just like that pick six that Mitch had. I never would have thrown that. I would have thrown it to the open guy for a touchdown. I hope he's questioning Mike Tomlin's play calling, but not this year. I hope he's questioning it last year. So everything that he calls for Mitch, he's like, see now, if Mike had opened up the play book last year, we really could add some fun out there. There's definitely going to be a moment where Big Ben's podcast makes ESPN bottom line,

where he says something and then he has to retract it. Yeah. He's going to have to do some retractions. What's up, guys? Big Ben here brought to you by Roman Swipes. No, no, he does. This is National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. Very important time.

Always wear a helmet. That's going to be a muscle some podcast. Yeah. We will definitely be doing a review of that podcast on this podcast. All right. My who's back the week. We should cut up Big Ben on his podcast and then ask him questions and then just hit play and have him say the answers back to us.

Yeah. We should definitely get it. Let's do that. We'll have a super cut. My who's back the week is CM Punk, another thing that I'm going to have to look more into, but I'm just going to side with CM Punk no matter what, but his press conference went super viral this weekend, big time drama in the AEW. Essentially, it seems like there's locker room issues.

I also watched the press conference and I was like, oh, that seemed like he kind of ripped into some people. I saw an alternate angle and Tony Khan just sitting next to him the whole time. Okay. And it felt like CM Punk was kind of just shoving it in everyone's face, which that's why he's electric. That's why he's CM Punk. Yeah.

Even when CM Punk is even when he's just doing a work, he's actually being serious, right? Yeah. No. He just kind of always it's never what CM Punk says. It's always your reaction to it that changes. I still think CM Punk could show up on Monday Night Raw being like, fuck you Vince. Even when he was well gone from the WWE, I was like, no, he's coming back now. He for sure is going to come back.

But yeah, CM Punk is one of the best to do it, so I like whenever he speaks facts. He's one of those guys that if he's giving an impassioned speech, you know that he's most likely right and also has thought it out well enough that it's like not just like out of nowhere that he's just pissed off at everyone. He's a big time person who will sit down and say like the meanest, most honest things as calmly as possible. And the fact that he's so calm when he's saying these things about you makes you overreact to him.

And then you look like the asshole. Yeah. It's a great skill set to have. Yes. Billy. My who's back is Giselle. So over the weekend, a little bit of a breaking story that then went back. But I don't know if Hank has any opinion on this.

But Giselle and Tom Brady might have divorced, but not, but gone to a fight. It's weird. I just saw an offhand headline on Friday from site your sources. Was it a real headline? It was like a gossip magazine. I don't know. He went to the Bahamas or something and they may have gone through a huge fight and then Giselle may have flown off to Costa Rica.

So they might be divorced now or I have no idea. I mean, you have to take this is one of those gossipy things like was he retired or not? Are they still together? But it was kind of sad because Giselle and Tom Brady were like super power couple. I think you have to take the box week one. I think you have to take the box for the season because if we know anything about Tom Brady, he's like, I'm going to win her back by winning another Super Bowl. He's going to have a lot more time to focus on football.

Correct. Hmm. I don't know. I need to wait this one out because at some point he's probably also going to get back with her. The question is, is he heartbroken and I don't. He's quote unquote sad. Okay.

Sad. But sad for Tom Brady is like, I'm just going to rip apart more defenses. Is he going, but that would have Tom Brady just get slutty with it? Yeah. What if he has like a mid, mid, half midlife crisis? All right. So let's just say that the story developing on where we're going to gamble with this, but it there's definitely a way you have to, you have to pick a lane on how this potential

divorce could go. I would just like to say Giselle, you're, I know your big AWL come on the podcast and talk about your feelings. We'd love to help you through this very difficult part of your life. I'd like to say Giselle, uh, what PFT said right there, he's probably coming on a little too hard. If he's bothering you, just let me know and I'll take care of it. I'd also like to add to that that, you know, big cats, sometimes he tries to explain what

I'm saying to you, um, but if it came across that way, that's not my intention at all. But I just think that, you know, mental health should come first for you, Giselle. So please, uh, you know, if you want to discuss your emotions, your feelings, if you just want to, you know, maybe go out for a quick drink, uh, talk about it. Come on, part of my take. Yeah. Giselle. And again, PFT, maybe a little getting a little out of line there, but that's okay.

You should definitely come on part of my take. Um, I would love to talk to you also just throwing this out there. You are five 11. So you would be taller than PFT. It'd be nice change of pace. Never, never a guy go down on you standing up. All right. Uh, Joe, I'm not going to eat Giselle's pussy, bonk.

Don't give it away, Billy. My who's back of the week is American tennis. We have a very feel good, big feel good story in the U S open. So Francis T also American upsets roughing it all today in the round of 16. And, uh, so here's his story. His dad, well, first of all, his parents, uh, were immigrants from Sierra Leone. His dad was a construction worker who helped build a tennis center in Maryland, became the custodian, and that's how his son picked up tennis.

Wow. And now he just beat Rafa on the biggest stage. He grew up living in a custodian's closet, like actually living and sleeping in there of tennis facility. Now he beat Rafa. Yeah. But he didn't beat Djokovic. He did not.

Okay. Um, it's a cool story. It is a cool story. I think it'd be great on this show, especially if he wins the tournament and, uh, what was his name again? Remember what you did the last guy that you brought up? Francis Tioffo. Karyos?

No. He's still in it too. Um, McGwary, McGwary. Oh, Sam Query. Sam. Yeah. Yeah. That was the last match of his career.

Yeah. You ended that guy's career. Well, this time, look, he beat Rafa. Okay. Tioffo, come on the podcast. Tioffo, let's go. Yeah. And, uh, he's a big DC sports fan.

Brad Beale was in his box today. Wow. He was in his player's box. Brad Beale was pumping it all up in that fist pump, pumping his box. LeBron tweeted about him. So baby brawn is back. He called him young king. Oh Yeah, he's a baby part of the week. Yeah, so this is a great story Tiaffo versus Curious finals what I'm hoping Wow

Curious is In double watch. Yeah, he is funny. Yeah, it was like the first wasn't the first game first set of the first first Yeah, the very beginning the game. He was like smashing his number one Yeah, number one and number two are down who's number one. It was medivit of Well, he's disqualified he's gonna get vaccinated which is wrong What we can all disqualify him or yeah, not just squalls squall fight for someone making a personal choice It's complete bullshit Anyways, yeah Francis Tiaffo keep an eye on him this week. Okay. That is a very cool story

Thank you, Jake because now you're pulling in my heartstrings is Has has Jeremy Shapp done a like a really soft sad story about him yet I don't believe so when that happens forward it to me and I'll be all the way in Tom Rinaldi or Jeremy Shapp Well, Tom Rinaldi is not with them Yeah, but maybe he'll do one just cuz like Tom Rinaldi is like a fucking fly to a light like he he sees someone go through some type Of tragic hardship. I he's like, I gotta I gotta fucking do a soft voice over my predictions that he will be drafted by an NFL Team next year just so that they can use yeah the story during the draft coverage But no, Jaffa was Jaffa was awesome. Jake. I love how pure and innocent Jake is where he thought that like, oh, yeah

Yeah, it could be it. Yeah, he's a good athlete. Yeah Jaffa. Yeah, he plays tennis. Yeah, um No, I would imagine like Tom Rinaldi like imagine being Tom Rinaldi and meeting people and just like being like, oh, hey Hey, how you doing? We're from blah blah and be like so both your parents still alive. Tell me Tell me about the hardest moment. Yeah Any belts with cancer or anything you want to tell me about This young man just came everything. Also. This is the first time since 2003 Federer Nadal Djokovic or Serena are not in the okay

And then a huge asterisk a huge asterisk. Yeah, Federer is injured. That's the asterisk. Oh my good point Yeah, and Jake mush Serena. So yeah, you killed Serena's career. You had two careers in this US open Incredible job by you. I was not at her last singles match. I was at her last Doubles match sister which was her last match. That means that no that means that she's 0 for 2 since Jake has seen her Yes, no, she lost the doubles match also and she won I went. Uh, yeah I'm just gonna throw this out to Jake the kiss of death. I just like to call my shot real quick. Um, she not she's not retired You think she's coming back? She's not retired She is not retired

Well, she's gonna have a kid and as we've all learned from her success at the australian open That should actually be considered you want a wall pregnant, right? It should be considered PEDs I think what was the explanation that we came up with there's more blood like her cycle. She's not she's not uh menstruating anymore What was that dumb theory? No, it it ended up being kind of right. Yeah, no it was so since she doesn't menstruate There's more uh high density red blood cells Circling through her body which can carry the oxygen more efficiently and then like a week after we just made that up Some doctor was like

There's some truth to the fact that if you're just barely pregnant that your body can operate on a better cardiovascular scale Yeah, so fuck. Yeah, she is not retired. She's gonna get pregnant and win another open The thing that I keep going back to it's like tiger when people are like, oh tiger's retired You think tiger or tiger will retire you think he won't go to a gust every year You think serena like she can just go to wimbledon have some fucking strawberries Here's the thing with like golf you're guaranteed 36 holy golf like tennis you can play at your 60 years old You lose six love six love and it's like is it worth it? I think it still would be fucking cool for golf You get two full days, but she was

She can like she's gonna work herself back into shape where she's like. Oh, yeah, I'm ready to go She beat the number two right and so right you don't retire when you do that Um, all right, let's get to tom fornelly and our mount rushmore of italians is brought to you by our friends At paramount plus go to paramount plus.com just start your free trial and get access to your live local nfl on cbs game Every sunday as well as additional exclusive content The nfl on cbs is streaming live on paramount plus all season long kicking off september 11th Watch your live local nfl on cbs games every sunday at home on your tv or any device on the go Catch feature holiday matchups on thanksgiving and christmas and three post season games including the afc championship game

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Go to paramount plus.com to start your free trial to watch your live local nfl on cbs game every sunday as well as additional exclusive nfl content Let me just do an off script real quick read Uh, I was away this weekend with my family. So I had to I was forced to stream a bunch of Football Streaming has pretty much caught up to cable in terms of how fast it is. I was watching everything streaming I did not feel like I was behind paramount plus. Check it out now You can watch nfl on cbs paramount plus.com. The streaming has gotten incredible. Okay. Here he is tom frennelly

Okay, we now welcome on our very good friend. It is tom frennelly. We're gonna talk some college football We're going to do a mount rushmore. He's being teamed up with his nemesis hank tom can be found at cbs sports cover three podcast He's covering college football. He is my favorite college football writer. Boom. I just said it Um, I don't think andy does writing anymore. So I can say that Yeah, yeah, I could say that. Um, all right. So week one crazy Uh, where do you want to start? I mean, should we just start with iowa? Because that is the craziest story Iowa winning seven to three and not scoring a touchdown. That's of everything that happened this weekend. Iowa is the one thing

You want to talk about? Yes, I do. It was incredible. They punted the same amount of times the first downs they had I saw the stat. I included it in my column today since 2020 Iowa has won six games in which it punted at least eight times The rest of the fbs combined has won two games like that where they funded at least eight times That's iowa in a nutshell So farance has got to be like, fuck. Yes. I'm so pumped to win a game like that, right? Like he would rather win this game this way because he's won every type of football game that you can imagine

Given how long that he's coached at iowa So if he finally gets one where he's got seven points Didn't score an offensive touchdown and then that stat that you just threw out there That's got to be like he's got to be kind of happy I don't know if he's happy But he doesn't seem to give a shit about the offense being terrible Seeing as how it's been terrible for a few years and the fan base is essentially revolting against the offensive coordinator who just happens to be his son bryan

And that offense is just yeah, they didn't score they had and they started like I can't remember how many but a few of their possessions They started in plus territory and they still couldn't get any points on the board outside of the one field goal with the two Safeties it was just I think spetzer petrus's qbr was a 1.1 And I saw from somebody that that's the lowest in the qbr era for a single game for an fbs quarterback It was just it really was a record setting performance for the iowa hot guys It was so bad that I actually like I had to tune in because I I didn't have that game on my radar And then I was like wait, what the fuck is going on in here and then like when it was five to three

And I was just like wait, I got to tune into this and then getting that's that that safety to make it seven It's so beautiful. All right. So all jokes aside Biggest takeaway from week one give it to me. I think georgia is better than last year's team I think that like there was the concerns because the defense was last year was just You know, it was one of the best defenses we've ever seen at the college level They lose a bunch of players the nfl But they still have guys like jail and carter on the defensive line and just the way that they've recruited You knew the defense was still going to be good

You saw malachi stark's a five star freshman make that one handed an interception on the deep ball And you're just quickly reminded early in that game that holy shit. This defense is still nuts It doesn't matter how many guys they lose they reload But the difference to me was the offense because they had Jermaine Burton transfer. He was like supposed to be their most explosive receiver. George Pickens was hurt last year for most of the season He's the big play threat. He's with the Steelers now Jermaine Burton transfers to alabama And you're thinking with stetson bennett at quarterback like they still had Brock Bowers But you were wondering where they were going to be explosive on offense. You lose james cook

You lose the mirror white lose all these guys and you're like, I just they're still gonna be really good defensively But offensively will they will they be able to maintain and be able to compete with the alabamas and the ohio states? and I mean Oregon now Has been clowned in three straight games against good teams like it got clowned twice by utah last year and it got Absolutely obliterated by georgia this weekend. But when you look at that team defensively There are five star players on that defense They've got nfl players in that front seven and georgia just completely wiped them from the face of the earth and did every single

Thing they wanted to so I came into this season thinking Alabama and ohio state one of them is going to win the national title georgia will probably get to the playoff again But they just don't have the offensive firepower to compete with alabama and ohio state or at least beat Beat both of them in a potential playoff scenario After what I saw on saturday, I suddenly think that georgia is probably right up there with those two I'd now think it's a three-horse race. Not just darno washington should be illegal. Oh my god I was shocked when I saw him step on the football field for the first time

I was like it should be illegal to possess one of these in the united states because he's what six eight Yeah, he's like six seven six eight. Yeah, and he's pretty much she's a defensive lineman playing tight end They have four tight ends that are just like they just roll them out and they just run over people. You're like, wait Who's that guy? I so I agree with you Uh, this is why preseason rankings are so stupid georgia won the national title came out and beat a top 10 team Or I don't know organ might have been 11 wiped them out. They should be number one My question on the flip side though How demoralizing must that be for organ because like you said like mario crystal ball was stacking serious recruiting classes top 10 recruiting classes

And they get on the field with them and they look like they're you know, it was like utah state playing alabama That's what it looked like. Yeah, I it's it's weird It's hard to know exactly it is demoralizing if you're organ because it's too like you said they got them They got crushed that game. They got beat up by utah twice last year and that's a team That's like it's weird because you think of the identity of mario crystal ball and just the way he likes to play It's you see them getting punched in the face and not really responding and it kind of raises an eyebrow Because it's like that's supposed to be a team that wants to get in in there and wants to fight with you And they just look kind of soft in that aspect to be blunt about it

And it was certainly the case again on saturday But even kirby smart said after the game because you know his former defensive coordinator is now the head coach there and dan Lanning But he said he's like, you know, we've just got better players than they do which is like one way to be kind to your opponent But it's also low-key kind of just like devastating a devastating thing to say. Well, it's no big deal We just got better players in there. That was just a scrimmage for us for most part But it's I think if you're organ you still take solace in the fact that you don't have to play georgia And I think that the bigger story is not that organ is bad

It's that georgia Alabama and ohio state have just ascended to a level that is so much better than everybody else That it's really not fair to judge any team based on what you see them do against those three Yeah, so we're keeping ohio state in that conversation. Oh, I even after I was actually impressed by them the moral the moral victory By by Notre Dame. I I I have a I have a theory Tom I would throw this out to you I actually thought that was exactly the game that ohio state needed because the way they lost to michigan last year Was they got punched in the mouth?

Bullied they needed to win a game where it wasn't a track meet where they weren't just ripping off 80 yard touchdowns They needed to win a game where it's like, oh, we we can play Smash mouth we can play grind it out. We can play body blow body blow body blow finish the game out Like in a weird way. I even though that, you know, they didn't cover the spread I was like that show that ohio state can because they'll they'll win a ton of big 10 games where they win by 60 But that was like I was like, oh ohio state in a weird way impressed me with the way they want Yeah, and I mean, oh Notre Dame. Let's be clear. Notre Dame played not to get blown out That was the entire game playing that the irish had that they were milking as much clock as possible

Trying to limit possessions to that way and late in the game that they were thinking We just let the air out of the ball Keep it close waste clock and at the end of the game. We'll have a chance. We'll still be in it We can see what we can do then So I think that Notre Dame executed its game plan very well defensively They're still a very good team and I think on the other side of the ball offensively. Yeah Ohio state did not look like the Ohio state we expected I was saying, you know, I'll preseason leading up to this game and all off season

Like this is a team that's going to score 40 points per game The key is whether or not you can keep up and most people can't and they didn't do that obviously, but It's like we dismissed Garrett Wilson and Crystal Ave Both leaving and being first round picks because they still have guys like Jackson Smith and jig But they have julian Fleming. They have Marvin Harrison jr. They have a mecca buca But julian Fleming was hurt Jackson Smith and jib but gets hurt in the first series and doesn't really come back And he's ineffective when he's out there. So now if you think about it this way Ohio state's playing without its top four receivers from last season going into this game against a team

That's ranked number five and has a very good defense and they looked out of sync Offensively until the second half when they finally got things going a mecca buca kind of came forward as the alpha guy for cj Stroud, he got into a rhythm. They started figuring things out But like you were saying too for me philosophically One of the problems ryan day has had with ohio state is he just refuses to run the ball sometimes And there are times when ohio state is able to run the ball against the team and they just go away from it They get past happy and it hurts them. He didn't do that on saturday He knew that running the ball is his best option. He kept feeding mind. Williams

He kept feeding trevy on henderson and on the other side the defense That was what's really been missing from ohio state the last few years. Kerry combs was basically they ran two defenses Like for the last two years cover one or cover three That was really all you saw from ohio state teams knew that and their their thought process was We're so good that it doesn't really matter what we do on defense because we're just more talented than most of the teams We were playing but when they would run into or again or michigan in the snow Teams that were able to exploit it because they had the talent and the speed to do so They got burnt so jim doles comes in from oakland states and do defensive coordinator

And ohio state's doing all sorts of wild shit like you know zack harris and their pass rusher is dropping back into coverage on multiple plays I can't remember the last time I saw an ohio state defensive lineman drop into coverage They were just disguising things before the snap. They're going up against the young quarterback Confused and living shit out of him. He had no idea what he was seeing before the snap He had no idea what you're seeing after the snap And that's the one thing I think that has kept ohio state from really being a national tyler contender the last couple years Is we know they could score points. It was just defensively when it mattered They weren't there and last on saturday was the first time in a while that I saw an indicator that

This team defensively is going to be good enough to compete for a title Yeah, and uh where we at on cj stroud I think he's I mean him and brice younger the two best quarterbacks in the country I think that they will be heisman finalists. I think they will be in I think it's a slow start for stroud But by the time the year ends as long as everybody on that offense is healthy He's going to put up ridiculous numbers and the question is going to be Does brice young put up the kind of numbers to where people are willing to give it to them in back to back years and brice young against utah state on saturday utah state a team that won the mountain west last year

alabama beat them 55 to nothing and they took they you know, they kind of just called off the dogs after While it was 55 nothing quick and brice young Had over, you know 200 something yards passing He rushed for 100 yards and that has always been a thing with me with brice because he is so skinny But like he's always been hesitant to run at times where I feel like he could just easily pick up first downs And he'll sit in the pocket and you know, maybe end up throwing the ball away and it's like bro If you just take off it's first out That was not the case against utah state. He took off running. I do still kind of worried

It's like I don't think you should run as often as he did on saturday, but he had so much room to move I don't think he was too worried about it But he's kind of adding that element to his game this year And if he does, maybe that's the one thing that he needs to do to become the first back-to-back heisman winner since adrian griffon All right, I um, I find myself rooting for cj stroud just so I can be like, oh, how state quarterbacks are good That's it's fucked up. But I'm literally like, I'm hope he's good Just say like yes he and and and just feels would be good because cj stroud's good. Yeah, that's how it works

They come from the same system. Yeah Judge the products like that. Yeah. Well sticking in the sec real quick. You were talking about brice Big game big game happened the other night. I don't know if you saw it. It was kind of a crazy one What is brian kelly's buyout? Listen I lsu fans are nuts. You guys know that just as well as anybody they are going to be going crazy And that is just to be clear. It's a weird cultural fit like it never it hasn't made sense to me But lsu's win total going into the season was seven

Like let's not it's like that is exactly what that team was supposed to be like florida state fans are feeling great After winning that game and they should be because that is just the kind of game florida state hasn't been able to win And frankly when lsu is coming back at the end That looked a little too familiar for florida state fans because there's been too many times So they've been in that situation and they've blown it but you know blocked the extra point win the game You feel great But neither of those teams is very good like lsu's going to be seven and five four states going to be seven and five Maybe eight and four in the acc. So it's it's it's definitely not a great stuff by kelly

Because it's like it's one thing if you lose and you just get outplayed But they did I mean that was some like nebraska special teams level shit from last season Just the two muffed punts the missed extra point the missed field goal Just stupid stupid stuff and it's like if they don't get that wrapped up quickly And then you got the case on booty at deleting all the lsu stuff from his instagram account They got to get that figured out quicker. It could be you know lsu. They're not exactly They don't wait around to pull a trigger if they don't want to well in in good news brian kelly Spent, you know, I don't know 45 seconds of his post game

Press conference bashing the kid who fumbled twice. So um, yeah, no, it will it will all go well Uh, wait, wait, I thought was the most interesting part about that was he was going out of his way to say like Yeah, that kid blew it. Yeah, but ultimately It's on us as coaches for not realizing how bad he was Yeah, and then putting him back there. So that's on us for not recognizing He did a good job of tricking us into thinking he was good. It was it was pure brian kelly We're gonna get back to tom fornelli a second before we do is being brought to you by cross country mortgage We're known for having an opinion here and to be honest. We're usually spot on 99 of the time

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You're very good at uh, you know college football, but Hank does have you beat because he Had anthony richerson is his husband. I don't know 12 months ago. So I mean that was an insane call He is He and I mean this is the best way like he is such an awesome college quarterback He could be a great pro too, but that like two point conversion pump fake That was college football. Yes, you know what I mean? Like that was college football and that game was so electric So do you want to apologize to hank for you know being way behind on this?

I just want to give hank all the credit for being smart enough and having the foresight to realize that we had something special in our midst and he recognized it before anybody else. So kudos to him for doing it, but anthony richerson Is like he's got cult hero Like potential of just being the guy that every college football fan loves to watch Like I saw there were comparisons being made on on twitter during that game Like I saw people say he reminds me of vince young. He reminds me of cam newton And it's like, all right, let's let's pump the brakes a little bit there

But I understand where it's coming from because like you said the plays that he was making and the stuff that he can do As a quarterback is just It's not something you see a lot of guys in the country capable of doing it He's not, you know, your prototypical nfl pastor He's not going to sit there and just throw beautiful darts down the field and it looked like you know Trevor Lawrence or justin fields or cj stroud or brice young But he makes things happen. He's and that's a very unique talent and it's not something you find a lot And he's the kind of guy that can elevate an entire team. So this is a florida team. It suddenly

Didn't really have high expectations and I also kind of worry like for billy napier. It's his first game at florida First game you're at home. You beat a top 10 team in utah Like will that raise expectations too quickly for him and for richardson? That would be something i'd be worried about but I also think that he's talented enough I mean, it's not like he came from nowhere. He's a five star prospect from gainsville So I think that he's got the ability to really improve that team I think defensively they got a little bit to work on still and that could be their downfall against some of the better teams in the scc

But the gators they might you know, I feel like people are a little too easily hyping up tennessee and kentucky in the off season Is like the second best team in the scc east. I think florida is very much in play to be that team But what you just said kentucky plus three and a half on saturday night. I mean that's There's some suspension issues there. We got to find out about okay. All right, but florida had like I always just played by the rule if if you had a game On campus that the entire team most likely is partying for like four days Just go against them the next week because they are college kids and they deserve to party But that was such an electric night. No, it's that's perfectly reasonable taken

It is still florida in the last few years Wouldn't it exactly be a shock to see them kind of fall flat on their face the week after a big one? Yeah, yeah, but then that would just set them up perfectly to play against tennessee And like you said everybody's saying oh, this is tennessee's year and then florida beats him by 30 Yeah, that's kind of where this is going. Yeah, I mean, I love tennessee that offense is really fun But I feel like volz fans are ignoring the fact that that team scored like 40 points per game last year and went seven and six So it's like the defense is still a pretty big problem for that team And I need to see that defense take a step forward before I really trust them

I can't wait to take tennessee plus 21 against alabama and have it be like 28 nothing to start the game I did it again. I did it again. Wasn't tennessee beating alabama in the second half last year I feel like they were they were definitely inside the number. I remember florida was giving alabama hell for a while I don't know if I can't remember if tennessee. I think i think tennessee was giving georgia tennessee I think without alabama But then alabama put it away with like 10 minutes left. They scored like four touchdowns. I think they might have I think they might have that's that's a tennessee fans life right there

Like you can't ask me the difference shape between these losses. I want to throw a heart breaking in their own ways I want to say it was like maybe 14 14 to start the game and then then it was yeah, right I'm looking up at the box square right now. It's 14 7 tennessee and then it was it ended 52 24 They had a quarter. Okay, so speaking of um Moral victories against alabama. What does texas have to keep it within this week? It's the spreads 20 We just looked it up queen ewers, by the way, I feel like mike leech just looks at queen ewers It was like how did how did I how did I not get my hands on new boy? Didn't have the nil money. Oh

I Moral victory honestly if they could cover the spread that's a moral victory If quid yours just actually looks good in the game like if they lose but queen ewers plays well I think if you're a texas fan, you're feeling pretty damn good about where you stand in the big 12 going forward and offensively But I'd also like to see defensively if they're capable of doing anything because they're a lot like tennessee I was just talking about offensively last year. I don't think texas really had any problems They've got really good players on offense. They have really good players on offense this year defensively They couldn't stop anybody that you know was worth a damn

So that's going to be a key situation for that game Which is why I probably won't take them to cover the spread But I don't think it's impossible that texas is going to be able to move the ball put up points on alabama I like it. I like it. All right. What was your other big surprise or takeaway from week one? The biggest takeaway was that I did not realize indiana had the money to pay officials like they did on friday night To take away that touchdown, but other than that Honestly, this is like a very like minor thing But I was surprised by how bad louisville looked like this is a team that I had high

Expectations for coming in the year and they went on the road to syracuse and just got this shit kicked out of them Which I did not see come it's like if they'd lost that was one thing But just how hapless they looked in that game and it's an interesting situation for me Just trying to think forward because scott satterfield. It's already kind of not on a hot seat but kind of a moderate seat and Now it's going to be heating up and then I look at perdu a team that I feel like is not going to live up to the Expectations placed on it after going nine and four last year We saw them lose to penn state on thursday night

And I just kind of looking in my crystal ball and I see a situation which scott satterfield is going to end up Losing his job there and jeff brahm is going to be leaving perdu to return to Just something I feel like has been in the works for years already scott satterfield uh to remind people when he was asked what his favorite part about louisville was He said the airport literally getting out of town. He's like the airport's pretty close. It's like, okay cool, dude Yeah, no the illinois game I was texting with tom during it because I had illinois and it went from like us rooting You know, he's obviously went to illinois like come on illinois

Let's do it to finally just being like fuck you tom. I hate your stupid football team What the fuck just happened that was I I watched two big 10 games. I had perdu and illinois They basically went the exact same where it's like one team should have won and it's just like oh here we go again This game is slipping away It's great when you look at like the nerd box scores afterwards that do all like this is what should have happened based on What happened in the game there was one that had illinois postgame win expectancy at 90 percent and another that had it at 66 That's a pretty big delta there. Yeah, I fuck you They should be 2-0

But they they hurt themselves and the refs really really just I mean I have no idea how the hell they decided that wasn't a catch but you know It's week one for the refs two boys week one for the yeah Yeah, it's week one for the right. Yeah that catch was that was They hate me. No, yeah belem is a guy that like they a ref loves to stick it to him. You can tell Yeah, he's got that face on the sidelines It's like I they almost they almost see him as so much of a threat that they want to go out of their way to Not get bullied by him. So they bully him first

Yeah, but like if you watch like Brett, you know, he doesn't really get on him too bad compared to tom allen Tom allen looked like he was going to have a heart attack. He was screaming He was going full brian kelly during that game yelling at the officials Which is weird because tom allen kind of just doesn't seem like that kind of person But man, he's on the sidelines. He gets angry I I'm I'm now I'm getting even more mad again about it because indiana football fans indiana basketball fans Whatever like and I have a lot of friends who went to indiana but indiana football fans There's a few online that are just the most unrealistic people ever

They they won a few games in the covet year and they're like, this is the changing of the guard Some guy tried to be like Yeah, remember wisconsin indiana last time we played and I pulled up the last 10 And I had forgot that wisconsin put 82 on them once like what are we talking about here? So What really sucks Really sucks is like I think indiana basketball is probably going to be pretty good this year So, you know, I football not getting that win just I probably could have used that a few months from now just to kind of hold on to but now they're going to be able

Lord that went over my head too I play that same game where it's like you gotta you gotta win one or the other you can't lose both Because he just you just can't lose both. You can't do it. Um, I have a I have a take, you know We we didn't have you on preseason, but I have oklahoma as my my dark horse fourth team because everyone like you said Georgia, Ohio State, Alabama, right a man Utah was a team that a lot of people were talking about they that probably didn't eliminate them because they played Florida very Tough, but what did you what do you think about oklahoma?

Obviously they they killed Told I don't remember you tell no. Yeah, you tell killed you tep. Are you buying oklahoma or Are you thinking it's going to be the same old oklahoma and they lose some random game? They shouldn't lose and that just qualifies them. It's very much in play. I I'm not selling them I'm just not fully on board because I think that part of me was just there was some natural reaction to like oklahoma fans Actually, like it wasn't a big deal that Lincoln Riley left for usc and took Caleb Williams and all these other guys with them Like whatever Lincoln sucked. Anyway, the team was going to shit with them. We don't need them But like there is some truth in that Brent venables

You know like one of the bigger problems oklahoma's had in recent years is on the defensive side of the ball And you know that with Brent venables in charge the defense is going to improve and be good And then Jeff levy comes in with an offensive system that is not exactly, you know bad He's put up points everywhere. He's gone. He was the most recently at Ole Miss And you bring in Dylan Gabriel who is familiar with the system So it's like you look at that team going into the year and even though it's a lot of new faces and guys you might Not recognize that haven't been there. They're going to score a lot of points That was the one thing against you tep because you tep is not what I would call a great team

But you tep is not as bad as it has been in recent years. You know, they got to a bowl game last year And Oklahoma just clowned them. I mean there was really they barely broke a sweat just beating up on them on Saturday And they offense looked sharp. It looked good. They look like they're going to score a ton of points If that defense takes the step forward like I expect 200 venables and that coaching staff I think they're they're the favorite in the big 12 But like you said the key will be can they avoid the stupid loss because I look at the big 12 this year And I don't think like I think Baylor is still good. I think Oklahoma is the best team I don't think Texas is going to be great. I don't know who else in that conference is going to be great

So I just don't know that they're going to have a resume if they suffer a loss That's not a you know, like ridiculous really close game loss against either Baylor or Texas whoever if it's a bad loss I just don't know if they'll be able to overcome it. Yeah, okay. Let's play a quick game real quick It's called which one of these acc teams that barely won is the least fraudulent First up, we're going to go in C state over ecu Kicker missed that was an extra point. No, he missed an extra point. Then he missed the field Then he missed the field goal missed two of them. Yeah, um, we're going to go with uh, UNC app state

The craziest fourth quarter maybe in the history of college football gene chiswick and then um, you know, let's just toss Clemson in here Clemson's going to win by I'm first reporting seven points It's going to be seven nothing Clemson over Georgia Tech. So let's just assume that score will hold up So which one of those three acc team sevens a lot is the biggest fraud This is tough because there's rank them from most fraudulent to least fraudulent. Uh, most fraudulent north carolina Clemson and NC state Uh, north carolina. First of all, I want to start by saying I think drake may their new quarterback Is really good. Like I I think that you know, he's not just putting up numbers against bad defenses

I think that he's just he's probably I think an upgrade over sam howe. No offense I know that he's with your commanders now, but I think that they've got a better quarterback now A really was drake may was he ranked number one going into the season in a mock draft and mini mock drafts that were published on the internet Sam howe was he might be next year because he's next year. So let's hold off before we make these compares But that their defense is so So bad like they can't they couldn't stop app state last week They couldn't stop florida a and m and like jackson state deans team beat them like what 52 to 3 And and fam you was putting up like 30 something on north carolina that defense is

Bad they're they're they're gonna lose a lot of games, but I would just take the north carolina over every week I think that's something we should all be focusing on Clemson. Yeah based on what we're seeing so far tonight looks exactly the same as last year Like it's gonna it you're gonna have to score 20 points on it to beat it The key is going to be can you score 20 points most teams won't be able to but some will and then nc state That was a bad performance But ecu is a tough place to play and I think the bigger problem that north carolina faced and nc state faced and we saw Virginia tech faces

Why the fuck are you scheduling non-games on the road against good g5 programs and like north carolina's doing it again this week They're playing georgia state again this week. So after barely hanging on to beat app state They're going on the road again for no reason to play georgia state It's just stupid scheduling it when you are the ecc and your reputation is already in the toilet Don't make things harder on yourself than they already are just play fcs teams in november like the ecc does We can all make fun of them for it when it happens But they're getting 10 teams into the bowls every single year. They're getting two teams into the playoff It's almost like there's a reason that they do it and maybe the ecc should take note

Yeah, why did they do that with with virginia tech and odu in week one like playing at odu makes zero sense I mean the the north carolina one was even more shocking to me because you're playing literally a School in your state that has been better than you at football. It's it's crazy. Well, that's that same argument Yeah, well, yeah, it was better last year, but like app states been good for a while It's like charity and nobility pretty much It's like they think it's the good the right thing to do to like play a road game at the smaller in state school to help You know generate revenue for them and sell tickets

But like there's a very thin line in like, you know being gracious and being an idiot Yeah, I think people didn't realize that odu's sick blue uniforms. Those are worth 10 points and the dog with the crocs Yes, they have a mascot with dog crocs. I mean that was that was it right there. That was the game Um, all right, tom before we do the mount rush more one last question college football rowback question RHOback.com use code take for 20% off your first purchase q zips hoodies polos everything rowback.com has it Use code take for 20% off your first purchase. We have to at least mention it classic college football They they do they change finally the playoff system to 12 on the friday of labor day

Um What what was your initial? Are you a 12 team guy? I hope you are because I you aren't I want to go back to the vcs Oh Fuck let's decide everything Oh Come on. I just I'm not listen. I'm gonna watch it's the 12 team playoff. It's it's all like I'm not gonna watch You know, I'm not gonna ignore it and be like it's stupid. It's just I feel like

A 12 team playoff is I my my problem isn't with the playoff as much as it's with the attention that it gets Because like if you go around the country this weekend, the best games were pit w west virginia Uh, purdue penn state houston utsa florida state lsu None of these teams are probably competing for a playoff spot this year And the one playoff game that you saw this weekend or a possible playoff game that you saw Was georgia oregon because that was an 11 seed versus a three seed And you see the gap that exists between the teams at the top and those next tier teams Like there is a clear first tier of teams and it just drives me insane when so much of the conversation is then focused around the college football

Playoff and all of a sudden if a team loses a game The rest of their season no longer matters because they're not going to get to the playoff and the argument for it now Is that well if you have 12 teams six highest ranked conference champs Six large more fan bases are going to have interesting games playing in november That's going to work for two years and then if you're a baler fan or if you're a wisconsin fan Eight playoffs eight playoffs in the last 25 years. Yeah, but you're getting the shit kicked out of you ever you get there All of a sudden you say you know what? I think I I think I'd rather be playing south carolina in an outback bowl in winning that game than losing by 35 to georgia

Okay, listen you you made some decent points to the counterpoint. I would have his home playoff game That's the best that's gonna rule that's gonna rule that is that is the one Saving grace of this plan in that you might see like georgia have to go to madison to play wisconsin Or alabama have to go north to play ohio state in columbus that kind of stuff and those games will be in december This is like going to be a september game in wisconsin. It's going to be december It is going to be 15 degrees with seven inches of snow on the ground So that could bring an element of chaos that you haven't seen but I like that It's just most times 90% of the time it is still going to be the same two three or four teams that are reaching the championship game

Why don't we just why don't we just set aside the top four seeds? And then have the other eight teams play in a tournament to see who gets to advance To the to the semifinal rounds or to the I guess it would be the round of eight wouldn't it? I'm trying to figure out how to protect like the the institutional powerhouses So they don't have to buy is yeah, they're all gonna have buys. Is that how a 12 game playoff works four teams have buys Which actually at least we won't see the blowouts right away. Yeah, and It's gonna be very funny because the four teams that have buys Won't get home playoff games and they're gonna that's gonna change because they're gonna get so pissed

Like alabama's gonna be like wait, we want a home playoff game and all this money Why don't we get one? We're too good to get a home playoff game. That's fucked up. Yeah, and that's also too It's like it's weird to me that I understand why Notre Dame's part of it But Notre Dame can never get a first round buy Yeah, that was actually by design because now they just always will have a home playoff game Yeah, they're always going to be ranked between five and eight It's like you kind of respect that they're like, you know what we're probably not winning many national titles right now Anyway, so let's just cash in to get an extra home game out of it at the very least

Every year they will have it's actually genius I mean like the the fact the matter is a 12 game playoff It's going to be good because There's going to be more actual meaningful games on that we can like trick ourselves Into believing that they're meaningful until they do play against alabama or georgia and get their ass kicked In the final four, but it's still in the moment. It's meaningful, right? That's good for something Yeah, except we're all still stupid. So like five years after it starts We're going to want to expand it to 16 and then we're going to want to it's just because it's going to be like

That 12 is not enough. This is getting boring. It's the same teams every year We need to bring expand to get more get more variety Crazy idea. What if you did a 64 team tournament? Oh Nobody's ever tried that. No, then you got to expand that to 68 And you have a couple games that get played the day before That tournament starts like that this all speaks to like a philosophical difference between basketball and football is like The march madness has cinderella's because in a basketball game. There are fewer players on the court

So there's more variants like a team can make a run a few shots can go in a few shots could not go in and it changes things That doesn't happen in a football game because it's 11 out 11 and the more talented teams win Like the cinderella stories in football happened during the regular season Cincinnati was the cinderella story just getting to the playoff utsa was a cinderella story last year coming out of nowhere And competing for its conference that happens in the regular season every single year It doesn't have to be a postseason run to be a cinderella story. What about this difference of What about this? We just talked about tennessee going up 14 7 against alabama. What is cinderella story? Yeah, what if we do 64 team playoff, but the entire first three rounds are just one quarter of football

That would be cool. That's you know, and we could spin it as player safety Yeah, right, right and then you can have just like and you could play like two days after you know what I mean You can play one quarter games a week Yeah, right that'd be sick if if alabama had to play against Let's just throw out the entire top 10, right? So none of those teams But every team that's ranked number 11 through call it 100 in college football right now How many teams could get out to a lead against alabama? All you have to do to be alabama is just get a lead. It can be seven. It can be three can be two

But if you just have a higher score than them, boom, that's a win if we give them the ball first Coin flip coin flip. Oh, see that changes things if you give them the ball first I think there's a decent chance that a few of them could if it's a coin flip that chain That's oh, I don't know I still I'd say I'd say 20 are capable 10 would I all right. So here's another idea. What if we just played a college football playoff, but it's against the point spread So if you lose by 24 and the point spreader is 27 you advance who sets the spread Vegas

I think if I that would be okay with it But that would be so much fun to be like, oh alabama won by 41, but the spread was 42 So they don't advance. What if that's you know, let's just keep this hold on What if that's just an x professional sports league like it is like wins and losses aren't based on the actual results It's based on whether you cover the spread That'd be so frustrating to be on a really good team It would actually suck so bad. I would much rather be on the worst team in the league And then just stumbled my way into a victory every now and again

The bears could maybe make the playoffs this year the NFL adds a new wildcard team for the team that with the best ATS record that didn't I mean, come on. Those are always the teams that everyone loves the most like They are the star of the stories Would it be funner if the teams did know or didn't know that they were playing against the spread? Yeah, I think you have to reveal maybe you do like a big reveal at halftime You reveal it after the game you get both both teams on the field And it's like the ref has each coach has their hand in their hand like it's a ufc official

You unveil the cards and then you raise nick saban's hand Do like a price is right showcase showdown where you have to be the closest bitter to the spread without going over Yeah, yeah, and then every team has to hire like an analytics department. That's just that's just bookmakers. See now We're creating jobs. Look at us. We are We're coming out with these sports leagues. We're stimulating the economy We should probably cut this out of the show and keep it to ourselves. Oh man Tom, I do I do have one more question before we get to the mount rushmore because you are on the lowman trophy committee I was wondering if you had any any thoughts going into the season

What full backs would be on your watch list? Good question I mean It's the same as usual like money pot. Monty potty bomb. What's his name the kid from uh, indiana Sean shivers count as a full back because he's built like a full back But indiana doesn't really use a full back. I think he's somebody that should get special consideration He transferred from auburn. He looked pretty sturdy against the alina on friday Uh, dan, who are your who are your wisconsin full backs this year? Is chanel still there? I think I think rep meester is still there. Um I don't know. She knows it's not there anymore. I think there's like a a younger chanel

Yeah, there might be like with the covet It is so hard to keep track of like who still has eligibility left because like there like every single game you're watching There's a 25 year old quarterback. It's just getting nuts Yeah, I think um army still has the bucane and ball. You can't go be began Yeah, mm-hmm Um pot of bombs got to be the I think he's the name when everybody slips this preseason No, if he just picks up another couple of safeties. Oh boy, nobody's gonna be able to stop him Uh, I'm trying to think like he could actually make a disproportionately large impact on his team's offense

Compared to other full backs in the game where okay, you might get a couple good blocks But if he gets if he scores two touchdowns this year, that's probably 50 percent of iowa's team total What's fucked up is I think there are now more full backs in the nfl And there are in the fbs level of college football or at least teams using full backs regularly And that's kind of scary to me. That is fucked up. That's that's the population chart. That's a nightmare All right, so our full backs is I mean this guy's just meant meant to be a wisconsin fullback He's from milwaukee riley. Noa kowski Yeah

I feel like he was born with a mustache very full backing name and then uh, zack Gluteman, oh god, who's definitely a fullback as well. So yeah, I love lutefisk right there. Yeah, zack gluteman I just still I still love the days that when matt Bernstein ran for like 125 yards against penn states Yep, um, yeah long. Yeah, I rent me sir was I don't can't remember how many years ago But yeah, wisconsin has just you know full back you who is that full back on uh on florida state that got that touchdown last night Oh, oh, he's a he's a linebacker, but they used him as a fullback. That was cool. I cannot remember his name And I know you're talking about Yeah, um, that's a it's a full back highlight play of the year

Put a pin that one the guy never say again Actually, that's a that's a question I have for you just a point of order. How many snaps does a guy have to have it full Back to count I think less better So that's a that's a good question because there was some disambiguation last year. Um hayward, right? Yeah He was uh at michigan state. He was tight end h back. They put him in the slot sometimes he played full back He played everywhere I think the fact that uh, he looked like a full back He had that like fire hydrant type build and his dad was ironed. Hey word. I feel like that's a legacy choice

Exactly. Yeah, and he just had that proportion where he looked like he was a like squished together gummy bear Just like a compressed gummy bear So the fight it's not an exact science, but it's like pornography. You know what? Yeah, you know DJ Lundy was the name. I just looked at it. There we go. I was a linebacker who scored as a full back for florida state Okay. Yeah, I like that. Um, okay any other full backs. I'm trying to remember I mean, it's hard to know right Yeah, we'll know when we see him. Okay. So so basically the preseason watch list is every wisconsin fullback army army

Every army player now. I'm just I'm gonna say like not just running backs on army. Yeah, the entire army roster is on the watch list And then um, I'm gonna say Uh, somebody from arizona state arizona state probably has probably has one. Yeah. Yeah, he's got full backs Yeah, he's probably gonna mull it right now. He might not even use him, but he has one. Yeah He might have transferred out though. They lost a lot of guys to the portal Herm Herm carries a fullback like a handgun. He's got it in the case He probably isn't gonna take it out, but if he needs it, he will yeah He'd rather have one and not need it than need one and not have it

What do you think it's like to be a fullback in the transfer portal? Like how many people are calling you? Well, you call you just go you go to madison and you just like i'm here Hello, someone any quarterback that enters the portal gets like 10 calls within 20 Like a fullback just sitting there like whistling to himself crossed his fingers somebody's gonna call I think you just go and start like squatting outside paul chris office and like hopefully this works And he usually probably would tom fornelly is being brought to you by our good friends over at roman Tom actually wanted me to tell you guys about his favorite product That's roman swipes. They're convenient over-the-counter wipes that are clinically proven to help you last longer in bed

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But supportive both my children are quarter italian. So yeah, I can I can make those I can make any joke I want I did a 23 in meantime. I'm 1% Sicilian. There we go. That's It's your angry size. So can I say the g word? You can't I don't know if you should say it on the show, but you could say it to me You can text it to me and I'll say it because as I said a father of two Of of quarter italians. So I'm I'm I could say anything but you're not but you're not personally I'm personally not okay, but I burp I helped create two quarter italian kids So I'm a lot to say whatever I want. I think you're in I think if you help create more italians that just makes you

Right, exactly. I'm I'm I'm set. All right. So just the ground rules we're doing Uh, the greatest italians Should we all just agree that we're going to let billy take musselini That was your pick wasn't it that was your one one. No, what's wrong with musselini billy? Why don't you want musselini? Well, he wasn't even the best, uh Like dictator in On your power rankings of central european dictators of the late 30s early 40s I'm just talking about idly. There's much better. There's a much better dictator. He wasn't even the best fascist. Yeah, he was terrible

Trains right on time billy. I don't know what the hell you're talking about. That was The biggest problem he was facing at the time I I don't know how I've gotten this label. Yeah, but you you wear it. Well, um, all right We're gonna I think we won The last one we did should we let should we let team Hank and and tom pick. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So let's go around the room. So you guys can go first team jill, you can go second And uh, we will go third

Tom, I think I think you should explain explain the first pick tom tom sent me a text and I was Very much on board with what what his strategy was and I think it plays But I want I'll let him I'll let him get the shot by the way We should just say tom did fully cheat. He tweeted out like I'm thinking about the best italians So he basically just crowdsourced it. Um, he did ask. Yeah, I have to crowdsource italians Yeah Listen, I was a cheating maneuver and you also fell for the trap because you texted me before you like Is it cool if I tweet this and I was knowing that I would

Knowing I would bring this up to fuck team. Hank. I was like, yeah, go ahead, dude Tweet it I didn't want to spoil the topic. I didn't know the rules for mount rushmore. Um, yeah I think obviously one one is a pretty obvious choice for our board He's one of the greatest italians alive still alive today Does a great job representing us on television. I'm going to take mike to riko Oh, nice pick very good pick italian mike. It's great. Yes. Yes, he is very italian Very italian pervert both. That's really the key. Oh, he checks all the boxes. It's a big time pervert. Everything you're looking for in italian

Yes, all right, uh team jillie We're going with james gandalfini That was gonna be our first pick good pick good pick. Okay, like gandalfini or or tony soprano Let's put it. Are we discerning between? Oh, no, no, no, no, you got to pick one or the other Guys max jake any input She's gonna hang him out to dry No, I mean I mean

I feel like james gandalfini James gandalfini made us love tony soprano. So without which one's your pick It's tony's a more recognizable name or not. I feel like tony soprano is the pick tony James gandalfini is the actor that plays tony soprano, but he also plays other italians Yeah, we'll take tony soprano. Okay. Good. Okay. I was I was gonna take terrible Of course, of course, of course All right, where should we go? Should we go? I think we should go with our two three Yeah, yeah, that sounds good. All right, so we're gonna go

Al Capone And john goddy That's our those are our first two picks great italians great italians You know what they cared about their community Yep, the streets were a lot safer when those guys were around they were you know Like you could walk through your neighborhood and hold your head high You couldn't own a small business, but you could you you knew that like there wasn't gonna be trash on the street They provided a service right they did and they killed kennedy, right

Yeah Hey, you can't prove that. Hey, we're not doing the mount rush more virus guys. All right, so You know Al Capone's actually buried right across from my my high school in my hometown Yeah, that's great. He's and what do you have syphilis? Yeah, no, he had syphilis. He died of syphilis. Yes. Just yeah He went to hot uh, I think hot springs arkansas where they have the arkansas derby Oclon I think Al Capone used to go there because he thought like if he sat in a tub long enough the syphilis would go away So is smart man too smart man

Science at the time Yes, all right. Go ahead team gilly. I love ours and he cheated on his taxes. Yeah, you'll appreciate that That's a very Italian thing to do. Yes And he was trending the other day for what how many uh, because when they raided trumps, uh, marlago, they were like Al Capone So Yeah, he was trending billy. What are you still relevant today? What what are billy's thoughts on what happened with trumps? He's a big he's a big special master guy We just

Italians italians. Okay. Okay. All right. Go ahead billy. Go ahead. All right Uh, this one we're gonna go with the character not the actor rocky valboa. It's Italian style. So you guys are only going with characters No, well, yeah, you went to the soprano. Yeah, so far rocky valboa. Okay All right, we got some serious real people coming up. Mm-hmm as real as john gaudy and al capone realer realer realer than them Okay, what that's that's a good pick. I just you know, I wish

Wish you were picking real people instead of yeah portrayal of Italians, but that's patronizing of italian culture for them to pick like these These caricatures we have boxers and when there are people out there that you know, they they work and they even create these characters, right? Exactly you're just gonna you're saying that like A fictional person is is a better Italian than all the real blue-blooded hard-working Italians out there It's pretty disrespectful happening It is And in that same vein our next two picks, uh, you know similar similar people similar mindsets similar, you know legendary status

Uh, the first one being julia Caesar. Mm-hmm. Oh good. That's my goat dictator Oh Seeing as how you know, he was the original capital stormer there. He was a true patriot He's the one who ended the republic. I could see why you like him And then in that same vein speaking of uh storm in the capital ryan rocillo is our next pick Another anti-tax guy pick Simmons. Yeah half italian Yeah, but no what the difference is like rocillo when you look for an italian you you're looking like A real italian isn't afraid to put his nuts on the table or the couch sofa that he's sitting on it

And he's even time at rocillo, you know, he's always he's putting them out there for everybody to see that's that's a real italian right there Yes, yes, okay Team gilly good picks good picks. This is a strong mount rushmore Uh, we're going with uh, mario Oh Drafted real italians now, huh? He's real my eyes. Yeah. Yeah plumbers boxers and in mafia. That's all you got. We have no mafia. Oh, no You could have picked an unbelievable actor and james gandalfini super mario on the graphic

Okay, okay. So are you taking aim when while luigi is still on the board while luigi Interesting. Yeah, okay. Um, all right. What do we want to go with? I think Number of our number five For sure, but then who else you you pick the last one. Okay. I'll do the last one. All right Uh, we're gonna do with uh, go with mike the situation from jersey shore Another non-tax guy I'm sensing a theme here. Oh, holy shit. So none of these guys pay their taxes. Yeah we

We came here We made sure to check out how everybody else was doing it and said, all right, let's do it for ourselves And that's really been working to our benefit. That's we had to establish ourselves in this country somehow So we looked at who's in charge how they got in charge how they got their money and we said, let's do it But let's do it better than they did because that's the Italian way I like the idea of just being like if we all if we all cheat they can't arrest all of us and the Yeah, we can. Well, we definitely that's kind of what we do You know what? We'll make a we'll make a law too that anyone who associates with anyone

Call it riko We were so good that they had to create laws to stop us That's true. That's scowls. There were such scowls that they had to create the riko law. Um, all right Last pick, uh, our last pick. I'm gonna go with Hmm, what do you think maybe the third one that I sent in this last one? Yeah I mean, he's the he's the he's a he's a total double Yeah dual threat dual Italian, uh, sylvia burlesconi the prime minister

He had orgies like while he was he made bill clinton look like like tim tebow He was just fucking everything had his finger in every pie. That's an italian expression But also you can imagine what it means Literally, he was really urban myering it out there. Yeah. Yes. Yes. He was what would he call him the bunga bunga parties? This is amount this is amount rush worse. So we shouldn't have like an actual president. So yes. Yes. He accomplished great things Maybe not but whatever he was there. He's the one when the champion's league while he owned it There you go. Good enough for me. Thank you. Tom All right, uh, team gilla your last pick max was you like to announce our final pick of 2022?

Uh, I would be honored. Um, this is a personal favorite of mine. I'm gonna go with frank sinatra Oh, that's a great pick. That's a great pick. That's a great pick Damn it. We should that was still classy what jake just did. Yeah, yeah That was he basically was like max go ahead pick mr. Relevant and it brings him out Billy was running the draft nero and max saved the day by taking frank sinatra All right, your guys last pick. I feel like tom you should just whatever whatever whatever comes to your mind You we still got a lot of people on the board. I think you should just go for it Oh, man, I don't know. It's like our number two is still there, but I feel like

I don't know if this is the time to take it. Uh Yeah, fuck it. No, I'm gonna go with chef boy rd Oh Nice. I mean nice. I I learned how to cook from my grandmother growing up But I mean, you know, we all talk about our Italian grandmothers and their raviolis But I've still to this day never had a better ravioli than the one made by chef boy rd Yeah, beef ravioli somehow it tastes better when it's cold than it does when it's here. Yes. Just fantastic Um, all right, what did we miss papa john?

Max homo. I mean, he's italian. Come on. Papa john's italian. We had soco and vincetti on our list. Oh, yeah Yeah, and our didn't take him or a p mac of billy. Yeah, uh, how how how about uh, roberto nero and al peccino It's quality italians not on my list not on the list Really? Yeah, do you want the rest of my list? I'll give it to you. Yeah, let's let's hear about ponzi the guy that invented the ponzi Yes, again really oughta that's italians invent a lot of things I had fat Tony from the simpsons. Uh, oh, yeah Adrienne brody From peaky blinders with the most offensive performance of a Italian I've ever seen

Noted pervert are kelly Your favorite dan marino Yeah, the teenage mutant ninja turtles Polly walnuts and of course lieutenant Aldo reigning the inglorious bastards Nice. Yeah, uh, mike piazza Chris Cuomo, Chris Cuomo, Andrew Cuomo, all the Cuomos, Cuomos, Cuomo, Sexuals Sexuals, yeah, uh Pontius pilot

with italian Listen, no christianity Without Pontius pilot That's true. He kind of saved everybody's life. Also, maybe maybe the biggest heal Right. He actually he killed jesus. So that's a if you like a bad boy christopher Columbus Yeah, that's a good one, but but might not be italian Oh, it might be like spanish. Yeah Yeah, so the italians claim them though. What about um, I thought you were going to go with like da Vinci and michael angelo

I said the teenage mutant ninja turtles. Oh, yeah, it's true. You're right. You're right. You nailed them all I mean, this is a great mount rush for a great ending. Um, it just became I so wait, what were Give us your picks again the four that you have. What was yours team hankin and tom? Uh, we had mike terrico Ryan recilote or julia caesar then ryan recilote and then chef boy rd Okay, and then team jillie We had rocky Tony soprano super mario And synatra now you guys had a good one and then we had, uh, al Capone john goddy

The situation and then sylvia berlusconi See, I feel like your team is a little too similar. You didn't you didn't really, you know, you don't have enough Oh, no, what we said, I think my exact text to memes and pft was I kind of want to make a mockery of this and go with uh, all mobsters We'll see I was telling hank I figured you guys were going to go that kind of joke route That's why we went terrico one one. We just wanted to throw you off your game

Yeah, that really I think that was a good choice. That was I only regret not doing synatra I think if we had synatra in the fourth, we would have we would have won this Yeah, I was trying to come up with too many joke answers. I didn't really think of actual italians It's all just about the friends we made along the way. Yeah, that's true. Great mount rush for season everyone Uh tom thank you as always. We love having you on uh, everyone check him out on twitter He writes columns. He has pics The georgia tech they just scored a field goal. So 14 three. Yeah, I know I have clubs in first half It's gonna suck. So, uh, all right. Well, tom. Thanks as always man. We'll talk to you soon. My pleasure. Thanks for having me

Okay, we're gonna wrap up the show with football guy of the week and Billy Your first ad read on pmt Second. Oh, when did you do another one like two years ago? Fuck. Yeah. So you're season vet exactly. All right So billy who is football guy of the week brought to you by football guy of the week is brought to you by body armor This season, you know, your favorite players are hydrating with body armor sports drink on and off the field Body armor sports drink is more than a sports drink body armor sports drink is the choice for hardworking hydration Is potassium packed electrolytes antioxidants b vitamins plus no artificial sweeteners flavors and dyes

Available for purchase in store and on amazon now. Go get you some body armor. Okay Did you just did you just ad lib that end go get you some body armor? Yeah That's a great tagline. Yeah, it is go get you some body armor. Go get good stuff. I drink it all day All right, so now you're getting fun with it. Just stick to the yeah, go get you some body armor Okay, crazy, uh billy football guy of the week is back. I know I'm hyped. All right, so let's go So first guy we got is just how many high school players do we have this week? Only one Only one but it's he's it was sick. It was It was sick. Did you do anything with a pancake or anything? No, no

We have Justin Houston outside linebacker for the ravens. So the ravens have two offensive line Outside linebackers on their 53 man roster. So that means that they're gonna have to be playing a lot the two guys So Justin Houston one of them he said quote unquote if they need me to play every snap I'm playing every snap. I can play they'll carry me off the field before I quit I was told you'll pass out before you die. So I'm willing to pass out Okay, I like that. That is a very football guy thing to say where it's like I think that's medically correct. Yeah, like if you're going to die You have to you have to stop not being passed out first, right? And also like

I would rather Be so tired that I don't come out of the game Then possibly take a break and help my team out. Yes Football guy. Yes football guy. Yeah, like if you need a break, don't take it This second one comes from the nfl offensive line coach for the panthers james campin So before the panthers game preseason game, uh, james campin was just smelling a football Yeah, just like and he just was talking to bager mayfield and sam donald about how much he loves the smell of football especially the

The laces and he's been doing it since high school and there's just a video of him just like Like snorting a football. I like that. Just chopping up chopping up a football He's standing with his back to the goal post just like sniffing this football. I like that By the way, this kid for clemson is A future hallfamer. Did you see I just saw him club club nick. Yeah, he's their freshman He just got in the game for mop-up duty Yeah eyeball test. I've seen five passes from him Hall of famer

talking gold jacket folks Where were you when we said this kade club nick club nick He's legit about this guy And again, I just saw the eyeball that means a true freshman. It's like 18 years old. Hmm. Yeah. Yeah Just remember in like 25 years kade club nick should have us Intro his hallfame speech this kid this quarterback at clemson. Yeah, I think he's good this kid. No, this well That's that did you see the quarterback that was playing the majority of the game not good for clemson dj

We younger little a wait. Was that dabbo's kid who just cut wait No dabbo does I think have a kid on he does he's on the field But that's completely irrelevant that kid would be on the team even if his dad wasn't the coach Yeah, oh now they're showing the ungil lately and it's he's probably like fuck That was an easy drive. I know it's against backups or whatever. All right. Keep going billy Uh, our third guy third football guy of the week is reoccurring guest sam pitman Arkansas after the game he was getting interviewed. Uh, they were asking him how he was going to celebrate His win and he said with a nice cold core's light. He doesn't condone it

But he doesn't want to promote it. But he was saying he was going to drink some nice cold beer and old and cold Yeah, he made up a new expression. Yeah, that's cool. He does have maybe the coolest picture of him with core's light ever Have you seen that old picture? No, I actually have back when he was a player Oh, that's in the group chat. It was it's actually that one that'd be a sick t-shirt. I love sam pitman so much Old and colds and last one this comes from high school But I was watching this highlight from arch mannings high school game Oh, okay. You know what I'm talking about. Yeah. Yep. All right. This is actually plays. Yeah, drop that in a bucket

Right, right, but the arch manning isn't the star of this This video agreed. I agree in the most football guy. So I'm watching this and then I realize Okay, the pass was a little bit. It was a great toss a great catch and then the guy just gets nailed By the safety over the middle. But then I realized that there was a guy Chasing him with no helmet on for like 30 yards Chasing down the tight end that was getting the pass and this guy has no helmet and just Straight up goes and levels this guy that has football guy material like that. That's an 18 year That's a jacked up 17 year old probably was drinking way too much pre-workout during the game

And that's just awesome stuff. I try to find his name. He launched himself into it. Yeah. Yeah, no helmet All right, that's yeah. Good job, billy. That was a very strong four So jake will blog it or you blog I blog it you blog it vote Uh, and then like we always do we're gonna try to get a few of them on this year Whoever wins football guy of the week to give them their their award. We should start sending out We should yeah, maybe just like uh, just a nail Yeah, it's like mail somebody a nail the nail the mail nail What if we just a nail man? Yeah, the nail man. I like that a single nail

Yeah, or maybe a nail the part of I take the nail the nail man of the week We should know what we should do is we send them a nail and a football And then be like a symbol just so you know, yeah Yeah assembly not included and then And then be like just so you know, there's a forwarding address. So you have to send that to the next week So we don't have to we only send one out. Yeah, right So it becomes like a weight off our shoulder. It becomes chain nail. Yeah, so hopefully

Sam brotherhood of the traveling nail. Yeah, whoever whoever wins it the first week like be cool, dude Yeah, send this nail and this football to someone else. Should we just nail a football? Like pound a nail into the football and that will be that will be what you get But we gotta pound it in where it's like, you know when you get sometimes you get a nail in your tire And it's like it doesn't go flat. Yeah, it gets so perfectly in there. But I don't the football stays I don't think that you can mail something through the air that's inflated like that. I feel like the air pressure will get to I mean, we we can do whatever we want. Okay, so who do we we put in the hole In the hole the air hole. Yeah, we could put it in the hole put the nail in the air hole

Okay, I like that. I like how this is coming together. Yeah Okay, okay. Yeah, we're not gonna do any of this It was a great idea. It was a great idea. Are you're gonna send it? Yeah, I'll find one send it. Billy. Well, who's gonna if you can just send it to the first person I know and write a letter saying it is your obligation to send it on I will consider a job done by you perfect like you're you're you're washed clean of this whole thing But then we got to try to get it back at the end of the the year The only things I've been trying to find this high school kid's name, but his number. Yeah, maybe don't yeah

Nah, we can do this just for NFL players. Yeah, we don't have to we don't have to stalk a high schooler Hey, hey, what's your home address these guys from the podcast want to send you a fucking nail a nail. All right Um, all right, let's wrap up Go to paramountplus.com to start your free trial to watch your live local nfl on cbs game every sunday as well as additional Exclusive nfl content. We will be back tomorrow with pete prisco and stew finer numbers Thank you to paramount plus for sponsoring the lottery ball machine Again, go to paramount plus to start your free trial to watch your live local nfl on cbs every sunday 51 seven 26 27

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