Pardon My Take - Championship Sunday, Fred Smoot, SB Champ Mitchell Schwartz, PFT vs Max and Fyre Fest

Episode Date: January 24, 2025

It’s Championship Sunday time. We start talking Jets hiring Aaron Glenn and other league news (00:00:00-00:16:26). We then preview Sundays games between the Commanders and Eagles (00:16:26-00:41:35) and Chiefs and Bills (00:41:35-00:51:14). We also find out about Liam Cohen to the Jags mid show (00:51:14-00:58:38). Fred Smoot joins the show to talk about the NFC Championship, team of destiny vibes from the Commanders and to put Max into a body bag (00:58:38-01:25:46). SB Champ Mitchell Schwartz joins the show to talk about the AFC Championship, what makes Chris Jones special, the Chiefs offense and how coaches work during the week (01:25:46-02:07:22). We finish with Fyre Fest of the week (02:07:22-02:24:55).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. On today's pardon my take, Championship Sunday preview. Eagles commanders, Chiefs, Bills. We have a twofer for the people. We got Fred Smoot, who body bags Max a little bit. You pretty much cut a promo. Cut a promo for the commanders. Then we have Mitchell Schwartz, Super Bowl champion

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Don't shake your fucking head. I don't know how he can call the North when. Oh, clearly the North. Where the North to? What was the capital of the North? This is what we've been dealing with all week. Max, Max, I'm just curious. I'm just curious.

The North. I'm just curious. Where where do the commanders play? What was the capital of the. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. State of Maryland is where they play, Max. What now? now remind me again

What side was Maryland on in the Civil War the line the line of the south was that line have a name? No, we were Mason Dixon. Oh there it is. We were we were in the north Barely Maryland was in the north in the north Washington DC was in fact the capital of the Union Not the first capital Yeah, I'll be Philly. Yeah. But then you bang. You can protect your crown.

Bang from three. All right. So yeah, we're going to, we're going to preview the games. That's just a little preview of a battle of history is not what I'm going to win. Yeah. No, you're not. Uh, we we've had this all week. It's been great.

It's the tension is real. We're getting ready for the game. Before we do the preview though, we should at least congratulate memes on getting his new head coach, Aaron Glenn. Those are top choice. Congratulations memes. That's history. It was cool.

I'm a sucker for any time a team hires someone for a player that played there and they just do old highlights. I'm like, yeah, this makes sense. I watched an interview with him where he said when he was, he decided that he was going to get back into coaching, get back into the NFL after he took a break off when he retired. So he was like a restaurant owner. And then his, one of his restaurants was right next to one of the stadiums, I think NRG stadium. He would watch some of the games and be like,

they're fucking everything up. This is really bad. His wife was like, stop yelling at the TV, go coach. You can coach. Love that. And then he said, when he joined a coaching staff, he didn't want to be promoted to being like a defensive backs coach or like defensive line coach or anything like that in house. He's like, start me at the bottom. Send me out on the road, have it be a scout. Cause I want to learn every step of the process. And so he worked his way up. Seems like great dude his players love him memes. I'm happy for you Yeah, your first choice I'm happy for me, too good I

Think I think this is a great hire He was on the Jets when they were bad and then he was also on the team when they got good With Bill Parcells and it's just good to get someone in the building establish pride back into the franchise even though it's been bad there were moments of pride it's it's good it's good to get someone like that into the building what would you say to anyone who says this is a bad hire racist okay Good. You got that in your arsenal. Yeah, no, I mean, it's, it's Aaron Glenn's a good coach. Uh, we should now I don't feel bad, but maybe we'll just give a hollow apology to all the AWLs listening to this from Detroit because this podcast

is single-handedly taking the lions for a ride this past week because you took them out of the playoffs. Yep. Uh, Ben Johnson went to the bears and now Aaron Glenn goes to the jets. I don't, I don't know. They can't handle much more from PMT. So I think that the lions are going to have to read the bucks. Oh, that's what they're looking to do. So just, yeah, fuck Steven Che up. Yeah, but yeah, it is not been the best week for lions fans. They've been very upset. They're calling Ben Johnson a traitor. They're mad about how the game went, not having their eye on the ball, all that stuff.

It sucks, but I also don't feel bad. Yeah. What did Belichick say about that, Hank? He just said it's fair for people to be upset that coordinators are distracted, the play callers, when they're trying to be making plays for the biggest game of the year. And that the bad teams get to basically come in and distract the teams. Yeah. The Lions did have a bye week too. So, I know Ben Johnson didn't even go to Chicago.

He did Zoom interviews and then decided. So, I can't imagine that that was super distracting. I do like how Ben Johnson's picking a fight with the rest of the division to yeah saying stuff about Matt Lafleur Kevin O'Connell It is a I'd say that's the best coach division football Well, we'll see Ben Johnson's has a lot to prove saying six out of ten. Okay. Yeah, you know, I've got lots of proof You can't win the offseason, you know, you gotta win the season I guess they can't go six and ten but that well, they could six out of ten six and ten one. Yeah, okay Yeah, I appreciate that Hank. I didn't really even think about it right this second troll always working we also had here's here's something good for us

memes the Jets of the Bears are not the Jaguars because the Jaguars fired Trent Balke after they were turned down by Ben Johnson and Liam Cohn, which is such a dumpster fire move because they were essentially like everyone, remember when Trent Balke stayed and Doug Peterson got fired and everyone was like league sources are shocked that Trent Balke has survived another head coach. Yeah. And everyone was like, this is crazy. How are you going to get the top higher? Turns out they couldn't. And then retroactively they're like, actually we are going to get rid of him. Yeah. It's, I mean, better late than never, I guess, but it just goes to show you that Trent Balke at, he had a lot of power in that organization. Just being the person that was informing Shad

Khan of what was happening at all times. Cause you can spin it whatever way you want. Like if you go out there and, and you lose to the Texans and some guy that you brought in plays really poorly, then you can go to your owner and be like, yeah, you know, uh, misused or timeouts and it cost us the game. You can like, you are the news. Yeah. You're the only source of information in a lot of cases for some of the owners. So he was just like doing whatever he could to scrape by. Then they got rid of it. He's also obsessed with arm length. This guy is like, he's obsessed with drafting injured players. I think guys with short arms. Yeah. So Trent

Palk, you better late than never, but I guess you learned if you're the Jaguars, okay, well going through this decision, everyone's turning us down because of him. Maybe, maybe he's the problem. Maybe he's the problem, which has got to be a tough realization that you because Liam Cohen just like said no thanks. Yeah. And he got a pay raise with the box. Yeah, that's that can't be a good feeling. Also, I think is it Brian Schottenheimer might get hired by the Cowboys. It's looking like that right now. Yeah. He got his second interview today. Okay. And I just want Deon. I just want to have that. I think that'd be so fun to have Deon as the coach of the Cowboys. But I'm tracking Jerry Jones's flights right now. Reporting at 419 Central time, Jerry Jones's

helicopter took off from the practice facility, flew around, flew out to AT&T stadium, did a full circle, one full circle, and then flew back. Oh. That feels like a closing move, doesn't it? Yeah. Like the guys verbally agreed to it, and Jerry's like, let me go show you where to play ball. Yeah, yeah, let me take you for a little loopty loop.

Yeah, see that hole? That's where Sunpelt came in. Yeah, yeah, no, you're right. That is definitely the final, don't they do that like on The Bachelor or something? They always like take a hot air balloon? Yeah, now they're going to the fantasy suite. Yeah. That's, that's exactly what's happening. He's going to Jerry's going to come in his shoe for him. Yep. And it's going to be a done deal.

Yeah. And also congratulations, Hank. You got your offensive coordinator. Oh yeah. Josh, Rick Daniels putting the band back together. Pumped Kirk was right. He had the first, first of it. Uh, so are you're, you have to be excited all the way excited. way excited. That's the person I wanted. We got, you know, as the best offseason you could have. Yeah. It would be very funny if some team like let's say the Patriots reloaded if they win 11 games this year and then Josh McDaniels gets hired as a head coach somewhere else. That'd be very funny. Yeah. For the Colts. Okay. Anything else before we do what everyone is here for

and that is the preview of the games I did see Mark Andrews posted a long Instagram note Basically saying I fucked up feel bad for him But Buffalo fans did donate $95,000 to his charity, which is nice. Very nice. Yeah, probably would still rather have caught that ball and not fumbled the other one But still nice. Yeah. If you're Mark Andrews, are you happy? Are you like, this is good. Thank you guys. I think you have to say thank you, but you're also pretty bummed out that they are donating

all this money. Yeah. Really Lamar should actually donate money to Mark Andrews personally because he's gotten a lot of the IRO. Speaking of which, has anyone gotten deep enough into the Ryan Clark, Marcellus Wiley beef to understand? I've looked at it. I want to say I've done about five minutes of research. And I think Ryan Clark is in the wrong in the fact that he's basically been exposed for a massive double standard with Lamar and Josh and Marcellus Wiley has just basically been like dude you have a double standard and he's gotten very upset about it. So are you talking about the Vegas stuff? No I don't know the Vegas stuff. That's what I'm concerned about. So to set the state I think a lot of

people going after Ryan Clark right now because last year when the Bills lost and that was a game that you know they lost by what a field goal and a miss field goal and Stefan Diggs dropped a bunch of balls and he basically was like Josh Allen has to play better he like it's on him blah blah blah and then this year when Lamar lost he's like chin up number eight like this isn't on you you made the plays when you had to make and it was like all right this is kind of weird So now what what happened with Vegas so he tweeted at Marcellus Wiley Hey Marcellus Wiley, you forgot to tell all your followers about our interaction at catch for the Super Bowl Like I said, we were not alone in Vegas. You just couldn't let me be when I ignored you

So now I'm not ignoring you anymore Let's have this conversation man to man." And then he did a screenshot from a text message that he was having with somebody. It's been cropped so you can't see who it was. Somebody says, Marcellus chirping again? He always is. I'm just finally tired of it. And he's acting like Vegas didn't happen because he's a bitch. Oh shit. And then the other person says, lol, I remember the interaction vividly. Law. Oh, I know you do. You actually made it funny. Then the other guy says, law. So there's no context. What happened in Vegas, but it sounds

hilarious. Hilarious. It sounds like all like this guy's actually like hysterical laughter right now. I don't, I don't really know what's going on here, but now I want to know what happened at catch. Cause it sounds like Ryan Clark ignored Marcellus Wiley at catch. and then Marcellus Wiley got up in his feelings because Ryan Clark was ignoring him. Got it. That would probably piss me off too. Yeah. Listen, we're biased on this show. We have biases.

We just are pretty transparent about them. We like Josh Allen a lot. I just feel like Ryan Clark should probably just be like, I'm maybe making this, I'm maybe not treating them the same. Yeah. You could, you can always get off a take. Yeah. You can always just be like, Hey, I like Lamar a lot more than Josh. Yeah. You could say that. This is why I'm going to treat it differently.

You could say that, or you could say I was wrong about Josh. Yeah. And that that's okay too. Yeah. I think what he's opting to do is just wait until he's right again about Josh. Right. And then he'll be like, see, I was right about Josh. Yeah. How he reacts on Monday. Although I think what he's goinging to do is just wait until he's right again about Josh. Right. And then he'll be like, see, I was right about Josh. Yeah.

How he reacts on Monday. Although I think what he's going to do, cause he posted also like something on inside the NFL praising Josh. So I think if the Bills lose on Sunday, he's going to go on, get up and be like, it wasn't on Josh, but he's trying to, to pave over that. I kind of like Ryan Clark. Maybe it's cause it used to be on the redskins, but I think sometimes he's okay sometimes when he gets on TV Delivers these sermons while he's dressed up like Austin Powers. Then I'm like, okay, I can tune this guy out right now

Yeah, so I don't know what I've I thought that he's always been wrong about Josh and it seems personal That's the thing is it does like he has something against Josh Allen, right? I don't know what that's about Maybe it's Josh Allen. Right. I don't know what that's about. Maybe it's a race thing. I don't fucking know. But it does. It was a good media beef that I couldn't fully understand because of what happened in Vegas. And the race stuff always happens in boxing. That's when it's like very like normal for everybody. If there's a white fighter and a black fighter like different countries against like a Canadian fighter, then you like you just squad up Yeah, and you let it all happen in between the bells and then afterwards you're like, okay back to normal, right? But in football, you don't some people don't do that. Well in the problem too is that

Lamar and Josh are different in the fact that like Lamar has been the best quarterback of the regular season for whatever three out of Last six years that's kind of you know, you can't really dispute that season for whatever three out of the last six years. That's kind of, you know, you can't really dispute that. Josh's losses in the playoffs have been in large part, not because he's not played to his level. Lamar has had games where he's not played to his level. The thing about quarterbacks is 50% of them suck depending on what just happened. So if you lose, you're like that, see that guy sucks. That guy sucks. And that guy's, that guy will never be good again. He's the best and that guy's so yeah, it's it's really whoever's winning the game at the time Yeah, and then the other guy you're like, what are you doing? It's quarter by quarter. How could you throw that?

How could you drop the ball when you got sacked Lamar? How would you possibly throw that my thing about Lamar is does he know it's the playoffs? He might not I Wouldn't have thrown that no, I protect the football. Thing about me, I don't have arm strength to throw that interception. To me, the football is sacred. The whole whole franchise. I would limit turnovers. In your hands. Okay, let's get to the weekend preview. It's presented by Dove Men's as you prepare to host game day celebrations. What are some possible whole body odor related issues you may encounter that make you less confident in your hosting do do's? Are you afraid to take off your shoes when you enter your friend's house? That can happen. Getting nervous. Your team is down at halftime.

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favorites over under is 47 and a half I feel like I just need to just be like go ahead both of you just fight. Well Max said something very interesting before we started taping which was he just wants to fast forward and get to the end of the game when there's zeros on the clock. Oh, he doesn't even want to watch the game. Me personally, I wouldn't mind fast forwarding to maybe like 30 minutes before kickoff, see some of the pageantry, the flyover, everything. But Max just wants to be at the end of the game when it's all over. So I don't know if Max likes watching ball. Like for me, the thing about me is I can't wait for kickoff. You love ball. Yeah. Kickoff is that's my time, baby.

Max, I don't care about that. I'm stressed out. I'm done with being stressed. I'm excited for this game. I'm excited for this. I'm excited for this game. I'm also excited for this game to be over. I'm hoping that I'm confident that the Eagles are going to win. But it's just it's taking a toll on me. So my, uh, analysis for this game is very dumb. The Eagles have, uh, better players at almost every position except for the most important position and that's quarterback.

And I keep coming back to like, I think the Eagles defense is better than what Jaden Daniels has played in the last two playoff games. I think the Eagles offense not better than the Lions, but Saquon Barkley is out of control right now and they're gonna be able to run the ball. I just keep going back to the fact that if the commanders have the ball at the end of the game, Jaden Daniels is gonna do something special and we're gonna have maximum pain for Max. I mean, I hope that's how it works out. I think the Eagles are really, really fucking good team. Do you, do you agree with my assessment that they are probably better at almost every position except for quarterback? What about running back? Yeah,

probably I'll give you the nod at running back. I'll give you the nod at left tackle, right tackle as well. Terry McLaurin's playing better than AJ Brown right now. Yeah, I'd say Terry McLoran better than AJ Brown at the moment. On defense, yeah, maybe. I mean, if you look at Lattimore, how he played last week, if you look at how Sanders still played last week, they both played excellent.

Really good ball last week. They released a rookie tackle leader. That was tough. And Commander's fans were trying to dunk on Eagles fans because Quinian Mitchell was not on the rookie tackle leader. Yeah, for cornerback. It was pretty tough. There was one Commander fan who was like, you're fighting against somebody who's not

here. Where's Quinian Mitchell? And then everyone replied, they're like, you actually don't want your cornerbacks leading the team in tackles because that means they're giving up a lot of passes or you're linebackers. Yeah, it's true. Congratulations for dunking on the dumbest people online. No, but you were just like, Sanders still is not better than either of the two Eagles D-backs.

I'm just saying the way that he played last week and how he's been playing recently. But you can't just look at a game, a whole player by one game. He might be better than- No. Than Cooper. Our- Cooper DeGene. He might be better than now than Cooper. Our Cooper to G. He's our number one. He's not Cooper Jean was was nominated for defensive rookie of the year. OK. Sanders still was not. OK. Point Max. I said he might be. OK. OK. Jalen Hurts might be better than Jane Daniels. Disagree. What is Jalen Hurts status? He's good.

Good. He's good. Good. Because I think that's really what I mean. They're not to oversimplify the game but it really like if Jalen Hurts is banged up and doesn't have the mobility that he needs to have it's going to be it's going to be a way different game. I have a question about the end of game thing. Yeah. Yeah. Also, would you have said that same thing about Matt Stafford last week? Uh, in the snowy conditions? No. I mean, he couldn't hold onto the ball. I mean, that's, that's incorrect. He, he did it to drive before and then he did it up until that drive until the Eagles made the made plays and win the game. I would say Jane Daniels playing better right now than Matthew Stafford. I mean, you talk all the time about how good Matthew Stafford.

I know he's a Hall of Famer but he wasn't one of the four playing good quarterback. He wasn't playing good the last two months. I would feel more confident with Jaden Daniels having the ball in his hand at the end of the fourth quarter right now than Matthew Stafford right now. Eagles defense. I understand. I agree. You asked me a question. I'm giving you my answer. Yeah. Listen. I just think that I don't know if that answer, I agree with that answer.

I'll say confidently with the exception of quarterback and punter, I think the Eagles have the better roster. Yes. I would probably agree with that across the board. Kicker. Punter. You have the better kicker. No, we have the better punter.

Tressway is a fucking legend. And kicker we have the better punter tres ways a fucking legend and kicker yeah Jake Elliott's a problem also that I I am giving you an extra player there that wasn't he did you are getting angry I was giving no no max I actually have a stat about Jake Elliott because this is kinda crazy in the postseason Jake Elliott is 22 for 22 on field goals in the postseason Jake Elliott is 22 for 22 on field goals. In the postseason, Jake Elliott is 25 for 30 on extra points.

Jake Elliott is the most accurate kicker in NFL history in the postseason on field goals. He is the least accurate kicker in the NFL in history in the playoffs on extra points. But he's also 4-0 when he misses an extra point. That's also true. That's true. That's stat, remember that stat I gave that's that is that crazy that he's the best of all time at field goals and the worst of all time at extra points in the playoffs no that is

crazy so I think that right now it was more field goals are worth more the the the voice you just heard there was was Philly Hank we need to address this Hank is wearing an Eagles shirt. Hank is, I believe, going for the Eagles, but he is so far inside Max's head that Max doesn't believe him. I think... And Max also, Hank, I don't know

if everyone in this room knows this, but Hank is texting Max at 10 p.m. every night this week, just birds. I think he has an alarm on his phone at 10 o'clock to text Max birds. It's been every day this week at 10 p.m. he texts me birds. No, I've explained my stance. I'm financially backing the birds. I had these futures in from before the playoffs. I didn't know they were going to go against the commanders. That might have changed things. But when you have, you know, futures at this at this level, and it's such a big game, all I've been thinking about this week are the

birds, the birds, the birds, the birds, the birds. And they're gonna, they're gonna run. I know it's fun. And we're talking about it's fun little robbery. It's not going to be close. It's not gonna be close. He's getting upset about this. Jayden Daniels is a rookie. The slipper's going to come off. He's going to turn back into a pumpkin. Three interceptions. Oh, he turned his mic off.

He turned his mic off. Turn it back on. It's sad, because Hank really can't win. You know, when he's going against Philly, you hate the guy's guts. When he finally does the Bloods and the Crips, tying the handkerchief together, you're like, turn this guy's mic off.

Don't let him talk. Wait, so you think Jayden's return to a pumpkin mm-hmm their Eagles defense is so much that the life I'm asking you to stop the Lions are playing with XFL plays sound like me with my kids right now Max It was like please stop. Please just stop doing that. I'm asking you nicely You want to know an interesting stat about Jalen hurts about his playoff record? so he's four and three in the playoffs all time and When he throws for less than a hundred fifty five yards. He's won all four games Yeah, that was the stat I gave max on Sunday and we throws for over a hundred fifty five They lose all the yeah

The key to the Eagles winning is Jalen Hurst throwing for 125 and Jake Elliott missing two extra so his injury doesn't matter all right can I say what something that I've noticed this week okay birds I would like to read a tweet I would like to pull it up and I will be doing so right now okay okay here we go this This is from Ben Standig. He is a beat reporter for the Washington commanders. Okay. The commanders are practicing in the bubble with the Eagles fly Eagles fly song pumped in during the practice. Are you aware of what that song is to the Eagles? That's your touchdown song. They played the song during their entire practice.

Are they just preparing to let up a ton of points? I think they're just preparing to be annoyed. Oh. But that means that if they're going to be annoyed by the song, that means the Eagles are scoring. They're creating a- You shouldn't be listening to that song at all. You're creating the most-

That's an interesting song choice. Hostile environment possible for yourself. By playing the Eagles score song. And you, there's probably a couple guys in practice that we're singing along by accident It's hard it's hard On the road to victory. E-A-G-L-S-E-O. Yeah, do we have a statement on, was it the mayor? Yeah, thank God she said that before the Rams game. They're 1-0 after that chant.

Okay. So she was the E-L-G-S-E-S. I love it when mayors try to talk sports. It is robots. Did you also see the Washington commander defensive coordinator, defensive coordinator, Joe wit said that they're going to try to hit, uh, Jalen hurts like a running back. Yeah, it's good defense when he's running with a football, hit him like a running back. I had no problem with that. Yeah, no, I mean, I kind of like it that he's telegraphed it too. Yeah, sure. Goes

both ways. Goes your running back also likes to run like your quarterback also likes to run like a running back. So yeah, but we also agreed to turn injuries off. I mean, I don't I don't know if your defensive coordinator agreed to that. No, we we what happened what I mean It makes you wonder about these questionable Frankie Louvoo hits the past couple months makes you wonder what's going on. What's going on? Oh, are you? There's a bounty gate. Oh, I'm not saying it's just a it raises a question. Okay, so because he hit Jared Goff That one and then what else Jake Ferguson? I mean, do you want to look at the Jake Ferguson one?

Should we look at the Jake Ferguson one? I got my wind horse fingers off. I have not seen the Jake Ferguson one Sorry that we pay physical football and you know what people in Philly would never celebrate an opponent getting injured. That's a good point PFT. Yeah, let's keep doing Dome shot I was like, I don't think that was Frankie Louvoo, but if that happened to Pat Mahomes, they'd suspended him from the league Oh, man. All right This is the Jake Ferguson Getting hit Nope haven't found it yet. Okay. All Alright, good job producing. Well, I mean you brought this up. No, I didn't. You brought up the defensive coordinator. Yeah, I brought

up Joe Witt. I didn't have like a memory bank of every bad hit Frankie Louvoo's had in two months. That's, that's ooze. Put some respect on Frankie Louvoo's name. I don't, I don't know if you care. I'm going to find it. Yeah. I don't know if you're gonna find it. I I think I'm gonna bet the commander's plus six. Now I do have that future on the Eagles, but I'm gonna try to double dip. I think because I do think I think it's gonna be a tight game. I don't I don't I disagree with what you're saying Hank. I do not think it's gonna be a blowout. I think it's gonna be close. I hope it's close. Everybody's saying that the commander's you know, this is the start

They'll expect to be back. I disagree with that This is you when you're in the NFC championship game you have you have to need to win They should try to win it. Yeah, I'm declaring this a must-win game. This is a must-win game for the commanders max It's been a great season, but you must win this game. Would you like to counter with it can't lose? No, I would like to To follow up with a must-win as well. Oh, we got a must-win off. Okay Okay So also one difference in this game from the the other two games that we played this season Jonathan Allen is back

Commanders, and he makes a difference at defense tackles. So I'm happy about that I don't know that I think the formula for this game is just don't let Saquon Barkley score a 70 yard touchdown. That's a really good formula. He's going to have some like 20, 30 yard runs. Just don't let him score on those runs. And yeah, if you can force them into kicking 33 yard field goals, that'd be great to just simulate an extra point. Yep.

But I, I'm, I'm on edge. I'm not as on edge as Max is. Max is just a basket case this week. He has been. Shocker. Yeah Max if you lose this game, maybe you'll get to... I'm not worried about it. Yeah Hank You're just which actually should make you worry PFT because Hank does he brings winning energy He and he also like these type of bets. He like he hits him. I don't know. Yeah, he does I was I don't hit him I was gonna tell max if you lose a conference championship you might get to play

Boise State in the first round mmm so be nice mmm shot at Penn State there max I don't he's so focused on trying to find I can't find this is a screenshot of it but I need that's that's that says. I would also feel a lot worse, but thankfully, Joe and her didn't even play and the commanders barely beat the Eagles. And so that way it takes away the tough to beat the same team three times. And so what about this? No team has ever beaten Jaden Daniels twice in the same season. He's a rookie. No team.

No team's done it. No team has done it. Think about that. Well, yeah, the other two teams in the division sucked Well also the Bucks Bucks didn't do it didn't do it didn't think about that. Did you four teams? Although technically Marcus Mario to beat the Cowboys a second time That is true. But Jaden was the first one. Well, Jane played for half of it Not well kind of and then he was on the sidelines guy cheering. Did you guys see the report about Jane Daniels

mom? Yeah. What'd she say? She does not let him date. Oh, there's a lot of large, the game, a lot of skirts running around and she's like, Nope, you're not getting close to my Jane. The big graphic that I saw just said it was a picture of Jane and Daniels and said, no girls. Love that. No girls. football only but he's married to the game yeah which i love uh i'm i'm so excited max i really am excited to watch this game i'm so excited as well we're gonna be streaming coach gruden will be there uh it's gonna be great it's gonna be it's gonna be an incredible watch oh is that the hit let's see oh yeah he kind of got him from behind all right here he comes in kind of head shot at a little bit from behind. I mean I mean he's getting he went helmet to helmet

He's getting thrown down, and then he comes in to make a tackle I don't really know what the point you were trying to make that he's that he's Trying to get in right okay, so it's a physical one put a pin in the bounty gate Max was the first to report it potential bounty gate on the commanders. Yeah Have you guys decided on a bet? By the way, the reason I couldn't find it was because the tweet I saw actually had I was looking up the words and the Thing and he actually referred to him as Frankie doo doo. Oh Good god, you should have just called him Frankieodoo instead of going on this wild goose chase

and I'd be like, good point, Max. Yeah, Frankie Doodoo. Also, Max, will you be wearing the overalls? Yes, I will be wearing the overalls underneath my sweatshirt. Same outfit for all plays minus one of the Rams game. I will not be giving you use of my phone in this game because I'm going to let a play out on the field. So you don't have any superstitious with my superstitions with my phone, which was powerful against the Rams. You have to admit. Yeah, it's not sure. Sorry, Hank. I you're the fact that Hank like he has thirty thousand dollars on the line and still wants to be a fucking asshole. I'm

Rooting hard. He's confident. No, you're Hank is either in a position where he wins fifty thousand dollars or he can make fun of me I would never really does I would never do that. That's me personally. I would never do that I want to win. I don't want to lose who would ever do that I'm glad that Hank is so confident because We'll get to our interview with Fred Smoot who basically just you cannot lay a jinx on thicker than Fred Smoot laid on by how Confident he was in the commander. So I'm glad that Hank is here counterbalancing that I appreciate that If you if you did not watch a second of NFL football this year and you just listened to Fred Smoot's interview

You would think that the commanders were the greatest team that ever was created on God's earth. Yep. It was that. All right so wait do we have a bet? We had talked about doing the wax. Okay. Upper body wax. Our torso wax. Basically 40 year old virgin wax. Okay. Because you've got a lot to give Max. Yeah I got I got a decent amount of hair on this chest And we talked about the Brazilian But if you're doing Brazilian then you have to like actually go to a waxing person like take your all your underwear off and be Like hey, can you wax my ball and then that's just weird? Yeah, and then also I do we filming that I also like we were talking about it the other day

I know people want to see a bet and I think this would be good because we'll make it a PMTV like You guys have so much at stake. Yeah, there's a lot. It's so much at stake There's the no bet can can change how you feel about this game. Yeah, this also will suck like this will suck. This is something obviously something that neither of us want to do. It's going to be very painful and I will have to take my shirt off on camera, which I never like to do either. That's that's a a punishment in its own. Yeah, that's a fact max you have keys to the game What yeah, what do you mean? Do you have a nice keys to keys to victory? Sure, what are the keys to victory win? I don't care about anything else win the win the football game

That's a good key to victory. I had want it more. I had dial something up. Mm-hmm and no girls That's pretty good and also make another fucking sweet pregame hype video. What does that drop? I'm working on it right now I got my team on shout out quakes. I got a guy too. Yeah Quigs is doing a great job It's just a guy that already makes them, but I but I've DMed with him a couple times because he makes it I've videos oh nice. This one's gonna be better nice all right final score prediction memes I'll start with you means who are you rooting for I don't know memes just once chaos I saw the curse of Jim Kelly clip pop up so that made me think the commanders are gonna win and Schefter's

tweet from last Super Bowl saying commander's chiefs are in the Super Bowl Makes me also think the commander is gonna win So I'll go Eagles 34 commanders 21 counterpoint Yeah, Super Bowl logo what what's going on with it that didn't happen last year Taylor Swift purple Okay, so wait wait you So what is it this year? You can't counteract memes. You can't tell memes to change his prediction. No, my counteract of weird stats.

Okay. So that does look like chief's Eagles again. Now bills bills have read. Oh yeah. Bills have read too. But you mean chief's are chief's all red. Yeah. Okay. 3421 Eagles, Max. That was Memes prediction. I, wait, you said 3421 Eagles? Don't, why? Wait a minute. Just think of two numbers.

No, someone else go first. I refuse to go right now. Alright, I'll go. 2624 Eagles commanders 26 24 Commanders Wow I think Jane Daniels is gonna do something special to you and I think Zane Gonzalez I think I think I think

you're gonna get a wait 26 24 we call him OCD Gonzalez Zane Gonzalez misses an extra point so it's 24 23 then he makes a field goal. Prove it cash out I'm not gonna cash out. I'm gonna bet the commanders plus six For probably more than the money, I'll show you the bet before Actually, I'm happy that you did. Yeah, why did you what would you get me there? Yeah, because if big cat had taken the the and Hank takes the Eagles, you take the Eagles,

I was just going to abstain. So we had the graphic that was all Eagles. Yeah. No, I'm not. I'm not going to cash out of the Eagles future, but I'm going to bet the commanders because I do think no matter what, this is going to be a very close game. I honestly believe that I'm not. That's my analysis of the game. I think these teams I Jane Daniels is the X factor that will make this game close Hank 42 13 Eagles Wow confident Wow confident slaughter so I shouldn't take commanders plus no we're looking at pick sixes 250 take one I don't know why you do this to me like believe in you Yeah, he's being a good friend. He's supportive I'm gonna go commanders 30 birds 25. Okay max 2824 Eagles, so you you're telling me I should bet commanders. Yeah, he's a good pick big cat. Yeah

Yeah, I don't I don good pick, big cat. Yeah. I don't care about the spread. Yeah, yeah, I know. No, you picked him to win. I just, I can't get it out of my head that something's happening and that when JD Daniels gets the ball at the end of a game, something happens.

The only thing is too many people are saying Team of Destiny. Too many people are saying it. I actually have not said Team of Destiny. I know, but I've heard it a lot. I just think something's happening. it's not destiny hasn't happened yet You got to go out there and you got to earn it and this is gonna be very hard game very very hard environment Against a great team. What's the weather and and and I also think in all these scenarios? What is the path of?

maximum Like what is the sicko? What are the sickos want the most and what is the path of maximum destruction and it's commanders beating the Eagles and then the chiefs like absolutely butt fucking the commanders. That's what it is. Yeah, that's just pain all around. That's pain every which way and everyone's unhappy and everyone's pissed off.

That's what's going to happen. What? Never happen. What? Nevermind. What? Nevermind. What? Say it, we're on a podcast. I mean, just no matter what, I will be,

the commanders, I will not be rooting to win the Super Bowl no matter what, I will not be a commander's fan. Okay. I feel the same about the Eagles. Yeah. Okay, so maybe, maybe wait, new vision, new vision I just dropped, new vision. Eagles beat the commanders and then Josh Allen beats the Eagles and we all celebrate. Max is miserable.

Yeah. New vision. That'd be good. Wow. I'm down. Wow. Wow. New vision, new vision just dropped. That'd be cool. That would be because the sickos would get their payday twice.

And we would get an act we would become the sickos with the AWS, we would join the AWS. That's the best case. Turn it on. That's the best case scenario. Oh, the glazing, the glazing that we will put on Josh Allen. Oh my god, we would be taking victory laps while Max is just completely devastated. Yep. Oh my God.

Yeah, that would be. Win this week. Yep. Win this week. Yeah, win this week. Everyone's got to win this week. I do have one numerology. We got into it for the Ravens.

Yeah. There is some numerology for the commanders. January 20th. or excuse me, yeah, January 26, 1992. Okay. The Redskins beat the Bills in the Super Bowl on that day. This game will be played on January 26, 2025. That was 33 years ago, same day. They beat the Bills in the Super Bowl.

Okay. That was 33 years ago same day. They beat the Bills in the Super Bowl. Okay 33 years before that January 26 1959 Fidel Castro marries revolutionary Vilma Espin. Mm-hmm Every 33 years. Mm-hmm a commie gets a ring. Oh And this is a ring game Not really a ring game. Oh, yeah. No. No, you get a ring. That's that I love. I love the numerology. After fiction, you get a ring. If you win this game. I think it's every 33 years the commie has a big day. You get a ring. We also

learned from the Ravens that that means nothing. That's true. That's true. But that was only two examples this is this is three no they had no no yeah yeah I fucked myself damn it also Maryland played both sides in the civil war oh go on I don't know I just that's why I looked up is that they were a slave state but they were technically in the Union so some part parts of Maryland fought for the Confederacy some parts of Maryland fought for the Confederacy, some parts of Maryland fought for the Union. They were a Union state though. They were a border state.

They were a Union state. Border state. They're in, it's south of the Mason-Dixon line. I don't think you understand, Max has read all of two sentences about the Civil War in the last 30 minutes. So I'm an expert. Basically an expert.

To Max's point, there were definitely some militias from Maryland that fought on the south. Not from Pennsylvania. Okay to my knowledge I still I still called the north in the Civil War this podcast, but I said south of the Mason-Dixon line and I was correct Yeah, okay. All right. I just want this to be a great game. I don't want to be Hanks 42 13 No, I don't want that either. Although if it it was 42 13 I would actually like that a lot if it was for the commanders. Yeah that would be fun for you. Yeah all right AFC Championship game. This I mean it's crazy because obviously with the Civil War in our podcast this game is so so huge.

Josh Allen versus Patrick Mahomes the Chiefs are one and a point favorites. The over-under is 48. I don't know where to start other than I'm rooting for the Bills. I'm worried about the Bills though because I don't know. Their defense is banged up again. The Chiefs, the weakness of the Bills defense is the middle of the field. Travis Kelsey, middle of the field guy. Maybe they'll just try to shut him down. And it's Patrick Mahomes as an under a field goal favorite

at home in the playoffs. And it just feels like that's what they do. Yep, we've seen this story before. I've kind of convinced myself that the Bills can do it. Even though I know all the history, I know that you shouldn't doubt Mahomes in the playoffs, but that's the part of me that just wants to see the Bills in the Super Bowl do it. Even though I know all the history, I know that you shouldn't doubt my homes in the playoffs, but that that's the part of me that just wants to see the bills in the Super Bowl. Yeah, that's a part of it. I think in all honesty, if if you're

putting money on this game, I would probably bet on the Chiefs to win this game. That's how I feel. But I'm not going to bet. It feels like they will find a way to get it done. And Josh Allen is going to be standing there on the sidelines just with that same look in his face., thousand yard stare. This happened again. Oh my God. I can't believe it happened again. Here's what I'm hoping happens.

And obviously I'm hoping the Bills win, but here's what I'm really hoping happens. I hope that Sean McDermott and Joe Brady and the Bills organization says, we've got one of the best quarterbacks in the world who had an incredible season and in the Ravens game they were conservative in the second half. You can't leave this game up to a last possession. You just can't. It's happened before. It just it doesn't go

the... Patrick Mahomes has proven it time and time again. If he gets the ball it's what we're saying about Jayden Daniels but Jayden Daniels is more of a feeling. Patrick Mahomes is literally facts. Like you see the facts that this is what he does. I hope the Bills let Josh Allen just fucking chuck it. And I hope they let him just be Superman. And I hope they realize that to win this game, and this sounds very simplistic, but to win this game, you got to just, you got to like step on them early and never let them back in it. Because if you let Because if you let this be a one possession game in the fourth quarter, the Chiefs are

gonna win. That's what you have to do. Just let, if it doesn't work, you went out on your sword. I don't want the Bills to get tight. I don't want the Bills to feel the pressure. And I don't think they will, but I just, I want them to take the shots necessary to trying to stomp out the Chiefs. Because if you you let them hang around they're gonna win the game. Yeah I think that this is a this is a situation where you let Josh be full Josh. Right.

Turn him loose and then we're gonna see how many downfield laterals are we gonna see between Josh Allen and Travis Kelsey? That's a good question. Maybe like four or five. That's a good question. I hope I hope Josh does all the crazy shit all the stuff where sometimes He saves himself in the regular season. I hope he's jumping over people. I hope he's doing pump fakes 25 yards downfield. I hope all that happens. I want a very fun game out of this What sucks is that between me and max? One of us is not going to be able to enjoy this game for how good of a game it probably is going to be correct But yeah, I mean if Josh can if Josh can have one of his better like top five of the year

performances, I think the Bills have a very, very good chance of winning this game. I agree. And it sucks because they've had some playoff losses that have not been on Josh Allen. But that's how we're going to look at this. After this game's over, we're either going to look at Josh's like the conquering hero, and what a great story for him. Or we're going to look at this after this game's over. We're either going to look at Josh as like the conquering hero and what a great story for him. Or we're going to look at him as just the guy that can't get it done. Right. And it sucks. It's not fair. But as a member of the media, that's what we're duty bound to do. Yes. So the bills injury report is not great. Christian Benford was limited in practice. He has a concussion. Te'Ron Johnson was limited. He has a neck shoulder injury. Matt Milano was limited. He has a bicep hamstring injury and

Taylor Rapp safety did not practice with a back hip. You need those guys. You need those guys. I hope that the Bills can get as close to full strength as possible because that's really the part I think we all agree like the bills defense is it's had moments where it's looked good. It's also been injured. They did a great job against the Ravens in the first half last week. They got bullied in the second half.

I want the bills defense to give the bills offense a chance here and that's that's my main concern because you're going up against Patrick Morris because. Cause I think the Bills offense is going to have success. Like their offensive line is legit. They do have weapons. I think the chief's defense is good, but not like maybe a little overrated. I just, ah, man, come on Josh for the Superman for the ref group, Cleet Blakeman, let the boys play, let the boys play, let them play Josh and Pat. They like to flop. They're going to try to bait you., let the boys play let the boys play let him play Josh and Pat they like to flop they're gonna try to bait you Please let the boys play for America because if you throw a flag, you're probably getting the flag wrong. Yeah, let the boys play Hank, what do you have any thoughts in this game? You bet this game?

It's gonna depend on the result of the Eagles game. I'm gonna bet the bills. Oh, I guess either way But if the Eagles win I might I can I can, I'm in a head spot with the chief. So I'll probably just about to over and just pray for the pray, pray, pray for the bills, pray for the bills. Yeah. One crazy thing to keep in mind for the, for the AFC, this is our dominant, my homes and, uh, and Brady and Peyton Manning and Ben Rathlasberger have been Only seven quarterbacks have started at quarterback for the AFC since 2001 in the Super Bowl. Only seven guys. And in the NFC

in that same time span, there've only been two repeat quarterbacks. It's crazy. So I think that's 22 quarterbacks versus seven. Yeah. And I mean, Mahomes is, he's a Hall of Famer. If he retired tomorrow, he's a Hall of Famer. Yeah, and he's he's Should retire you're saying It's funny cuz Hank is you're fighting a three front war against the Chiefs as a Patriots fan You're fighting the Andy Reid Belichick. Yep, you're fighting the Tom Brady

Patrick Mahomes and you're fighting the Kelsey Gronk battle Kelsey Gronk. Which one would you say that you're winning in right now? We're winning in the oh there goes some dove. We're winning in the bell. We're winning in all three but we don't have time like we're we're done. They have time on their side. A loss in this game would be huge for all three fronts. I don't think the Gronk one I think Gronk is the greatest of all time no matter what. And the and the Bills mafia being in New Orleans would be quite something. I've already received word that if it happens, Ed and Alicia will be coming down with a truck, which will be incredible. I just think that she's manned at home sister city saying my homes. I got to find the stat. Let me find. Yeah, that's right

It's snowing in New Orleans. That means that Winter is coming. I'm gonna find them. Oh, there's no snow in Kansas City ever There is no yeah, never it's never snow. I think we have good weather for both, right? It's gonna be like 40 in Philly. I think That's what the early report that's beautiful. Yeah, that's beautiful And then what about I already have it up 40 43 and cloudy in Philly. I don't The other game doesn't exist to me. I'm kind of the same way max when I was when I was prepping for this show I was like I just I need to focus This is the biggest game my life. Okay, here it is

Patrick Mahomes biggest game of my life. Okay. Here it is. Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes is 15 and two straight up in home or neutral site games in January or February. The only losses to Joe Burrow and Tom Brady. And in the playoffs, Patrick Mahomes is seven and oh straight up and against the spread when either listed as an underdog or a favorite of less than a field goal, covering the spread by 5.9 points per game. Josh deserves this.

Yeah, I mean, I know cheese fans are gonna be mad because like, I mean, listen, you you've had let Josh go to a Super Bowl. Yeah, but Hank, you know how it is if you're a fan of a dynasty, it becomes you against the world. And now you're just you're defending the wall. the wall yeah that's what you're doing that's the only thing that you can do yeah you're laughing at people that are blaming the refs you're laughing at everybody in the media that says something bad about you or something that's perceived to be bad about you i also saw a stat from our friend uh jacuda who does the best stats follow him on Twitter I believe it was the Chiefs and the Bills have played ten games over the last ten years both have

five wins both have five losses both have 251 points for both have 251 points against so unfortunately for the Bills all their losses have come in the playoffs pretty much. Keep beating them in the regular season losing in the playoffs. But not tonight. Tonight, Friday night. That's the miracle. Oh, nine times out of 10 they beat us. Yeah.

Okay. Last thing before we get to our interviews. PFT and Max, you guys are going to create parlays for the people for your game. Hank and I, Hank, would you like to collab with one, maybe a whiteboard parlay on championship Sunday for the late game? I'd love to. Two of us just getting together. Who could, who could imagine? All right. So DraftKings with NFL teams playing to see who's the king of the gridiron, get it on the playoff action and see who's the king of the end zone at DraftKings Sportsbook, an official sports betting partner in the NFL playoffs.

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I guess they sent Liam Cohn back. Liam Cohn also agreed to a deal in principle with the Bucs that would have made him the highest paid coordinator in the league oh this is great and then he left the Bucs. Memes is saying that this is incorrect. The two sides are discussing deal that would make Liam Cohen the next head coach to the Jaguars. I think we have a reporter off right now. We have a source off between Memes and Adam Sheffield. No no no. Oh I love it what does Rap what is report say the deal is not done with the Jaguars But for Liam Cohen to be in the building in Jacksonville speaking with the Jaguars about their head coaching job days after agreeing to the extension it's clear he's the favorite to be the next coach and

chapter did Chapters confirming that he's the next head coach. Oh shit Let's see. We got a I got a call Stephen Che because he was Oh shit. Let's see. We got to, I got to call Stephen Che because he was, he was puffing his chest out that Liam Cohen was staying. And this would be awesome if we break the news to him. Oh my God. I hope we break the news to him. Who doesn't pick up the phone at 5 o'clock? 5 o'clock. The beginning of the show makes no sense now. That's okay. We podcast by the seat of our pants. What were you going to say? We don't know. We don't know. It's a reporter off. It's a reporter off. This, I mean if they get Liam Cohn, like how much did he hate Trent Balke?

A lot. Really smart by Liam Cohn to be like I'm not gonna do this job if you keep this guy here. Fire that guy. Yeah. We'll talk. Okay. So that might be another spot that's that's no longer open. So it's now down to the Cowboys, Raiders and Saints. Yep. Alright. I feel like Mike McCarthy to the Saints. I do too. That feels better by the day. Yeah. Okay. Max, PFT, you guys got your parlay's for us? Who wants to go first? Max, PFT, you guys got your parley's for us? Who wants to go first? Max, you can go first. I'll go first. Don't let him do that to you, Max.

I'm gonna go right off the rip. Right off the rip? Break the streak, Jalen hurts 175 plus passing yards. This is the game that he tells everyone to suck it. Lights it up with 175 yards. That means the commanders are gonna lose. Wrong. I mean the Eagles. I mean the reals are gonna lose to win as well, but the If he goes for over a hundred fifty five yards they lose It's I don't care

Okay, I don't care what you say. He doesn't care what you say all right Is your next bet that Jake Elliott won't miss an extra point? Your next pet Jake Elliott won't miss an extra point Okay, so Jalen hurts 175 plus passing yards AJ Brown to score a touchdown We've done it every week. He has to get he has to get in there once Eagles to win and my favorite play on the board Jalen Carter one plus sack. Okay, you're doing just like a streak break Jalen Jalen Carter one plus. No, no, not that, just. Fed off the Eagles to win? No, AJ touchdown.

I mean, yeah, I did two of the four. Okay. You're calling your shot. Keep that energy max. What's the payout? Right now it's nine to one, always subject to change. Okay. Okay, I'm going back to Austin Eckler receiving yards.

We had it last week, that bad hit. I like it even better this week. I think that they're gonna use them a lot out of the backfield 25 plus receiving yards. I've got commanders over 23 and a half team points and then I've got Olamide Zacchaeus 25 plus receiving yards people forgot about Zacchaeus because of the emergence of playoff Dami plus receiving yards. People forgot about Zaccheaus because of the emergence of playoff Diami.

We also have playoff Olamide. And this is also a revenge game for him. The Eagles didn't want him. OK. Birds didn't want him. 25 plus receiving yards. I will not say the same of Jahan Dotson. Yeah, who won that trade?

Remember when we had that? That was at Camp Barstool. We'll see who wins this weekend. Yeah. All right. So yeah, Sunday we'll be streaming it. Gruden will be in the house. Nate will be in the house. I don't think Rone's gonna be here. Although I did leave it open-ended saying don't tell us if you're coming. So he could just show up. That's good. That way you're

kind of like leaving yourself a little treat. It's like leaving the tickets at the front, like hopefully you come to my concert. Yeah, listen, I would love to watch the game with ron, but he's He scares me. Mm-hmm. I love him, but I would rather him not be in that room. Mm-hmm Max When I just I don't care I don't care the elements put on the overalls and win a football just win a football game Win a football game. Okay, let's kick it to ourselves with Fred Smoot and then Super Bowl champion Mitchell Schwartz, and we'll finish up with FireFest Okay before we get to Fred Smoot a quick word from our friends at Kevin's Natural Foods If you haven't tried Kevin's Natural Foods, you're missing out. I had the Thai style coconut chicken the other night and it was

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you are you're insanely talented and it's fun to have you part of the pirate ship. But we want to have you on this week because the commanders are in the NFC championship game and I can't believe I'm saying that but let's start there. Are you shocked at all by this run and how the fact that they're playing on Sunday to go to the Super Bowl? Big Ken I told you when I was visiting that this was biblical. This has already been written. Do you remember Daniel 5'17 when he has to walk into the lines then and have to conquer those lines? I told you we had something going here that was special. Dan Quinn and his leadership, and don't forget about the fact that we got a Jedi

at quarterback, Jedi five, the ultimate force multiplier. It's changed everything, but it ain't just them. It ain't just the coaches and the players. I got to give a lot of love to this new ownership. Josh Harris and those guys, they have changed everything. They have set a standard. There's a very high standard. And I think everybody's getting to see right now that America's had a new team. We are America's new team, the nation's capital, the Washington Commanders.

One thing I've loved watching about this team is that they're getting better. I don't know that we've seen their best yet, which is a crazy thing to think about. And certainly in the future, you would like to imagine that given the cap space and everything that we got going on, we're going to be able to improve the team as it keeps going. But that said, I don't like the people that are saying like, oh, the commanders will be a good team for the next 10 to 15 years. I've already heard that. I've heard people talking about that because we have a good quarterback. It's very, very hard to sustain excellence in the NFL.

So you got to take this opportunity. Like don't, don't take it for granted that we're going to be back next year. The year after like we're, we're here right now. So Bengals. Yeah. Yeah. So like there, you can say window is open. That's fine. But also recognize it's very hard to get to this point and not every team that gets here is guaranteed to get back. But what I've seen, especially from this defense, is the defense gets better almost on a weekly basis. It's gotten better consistently throughout the year. And what we saw last week with Joe wit going up against Ben Johnson and Jared Goff, and the Lions offense I was I was really impressed with so the the Eagles different animal Taking them on is gonna be a different game plan from the Lions What do you expect our defense to do to try to slow down? Because you can't stop them, but just try to slow down Saquon Barkley. I'm gonna be honest with you

I understand where everybody's coming from because we had ground zero right now. When I say ground zero, this was our quarterbacks first year. This was our office of coordinators first year. This was Dan Quinn's first year installing his culture. So what they saying is it can only go up from here. Think about it. We got 80 million plus in cap room. So that means we can go out here and sign the vets. We got draft capital. We're only gonna put better pieces around him. And the thing about it,

I think this is what Jayden has did a good job of. He's showing you how he gonna play when we had to pay him 300, 400 million and we can't buy all the receivers. We can't have all the tight ends. He's showing you, I am the ultimate force multiplier. I'm gonna make everybody around me better no matter what so I can understand why people so excited.

But when we talk about Philadelphia, the only thing I can say is different when it comes to them in Detroit. I think Detroit, especially the way that Jalen Hurts is throwing the ball right now, the Detroit Lions had another level to their offense because not only can they run the ball with their great offensive line, they could push the ball down the field with J Moe and St. Brown. And when I look at Philadelphia, even though they got AJ Brown and De'Bonte Smith,

something's going on with Jalen Hurst where he's not pushing the ball down the field. Then he gets another anchor injury this week. So I'm wondering how they gonna use him. Is it one of those things where we need to crowd the box and stop, I mean, say, Korn Barkley and force Jalen Hurts to beat us? I'm very eager to see what Coach Witt does

when it comes to that figure and that situation out, because you said it, our defensive backs played well last week. All right, Sarah Steele making two intercepts. But we got guys taking balls to the house. So it's a different defense. And I knew it was it's a different defense. And I knew it was going to be a different defense from week one to what? Week 18, 19, 20 right now. They have jail

together. They have grown. Yeah. So, all right. So another thing though that we should mention is the Eagles defense is a lot better than the Lions defense. And the Eagles defense is a lot better than the Bucs defense. And you lose Cosme and Jalen Carter's playing his balls off right now. What I mean are you worried at all about the fact that the Eagles defense they have guys at every level I know in the Kobe Deans out which is a big injury but there's cornerbacks are elite their defensive lines elite this feels like the game the step up game for Jayden Daniels, especially with the stakes and he's playing against a defense that is, I think we all agree, better than the previous two defenses he played.

Hand down, one of the best defenses in football. You're right. They got Jaylen Dooms, they got Carter at the defensive line. They got Swick coming off the edge. They got linebackers. They got defensive big backs. But I don't know how healthy Queen Yung Mitchell is, one of the best rookie cornerbacks to come out in a long time. They do have that team.

But don't forget, guys, we played this team twice. Last time James Daniels played this team, he threw for five touchdowns against this vaunted defensive backfield when they was fully healthy. And then you go to the first game, I always tell people, everybody's talking about the game that we won. I'm more impressed with the game that we lost because that game was in Philadelphia And we turned the ball over a ton and steel was at the end of the game So when we're playing against the end of vision or four and you're playing them for the third time

everything kind of Comes together at that point and it's like fighting a little brother your big brother I know all of your moves. Now it's all about who can withstand and who can play four quarters and who's not gonna make mistakes. And my quarterback doesn't turn the ball over. Jalen Hurts turns the ball over.

He's the key to this game. Jalen Hurts is the key to this game. Yeah, yeah, I would agree with that. I am scared of Saquon Barkley though, because it seems like every- You're scared of Saquon Barkley. I couldn't see you last night because of Saquon Barkley, nightmare. Yeah, I would agree with that. I am scared of Saquon Barkley though, because it seems like every- I couldn't see you last night because of Saquon Barkley. Nightmare. Yeah. Yeah. He is keeping me up at night. Like literally last night I was up until like

2 a.m. watching film of Saquon Barkley just being scared of him. So I don't think you can stop him. Let me give you a fact right quick. He has those four long rods against us. You take those four long rods out and he's averaging 3.2 yards long runs against us. You take those four long runs out and he's averaging 3.2 yards of carry against us. So we found a way to bottle him up. That first game, he broke those runs in the fourth quarter. Joe Witt has found a way to bottle him up, but can we consistently do it and not let him come with the back breaking run that he's done week in and week out. The guy is special.

Yeah, I was just going to say, I think the key to limiting Saquon is to make sure that when he does break one out, because he's going to break a few off. Yeah, he is. Just don't let him score. If you give up 30 yards to him, have your safety, make a big tackle. Have your cornerbacks ready to hit.

And because there's always going to be gaps that that offensive line is gonna create Yeah, I'm looking I'm looking at Frankie Louvue this weekend I think it's a big weekend for Frankie Louvue because he's violent as fuck And if you want to stop the Eagles offensive line from opening up big holes Especially when they get moving side to side you just knock the fuck out of their guard You just you you knock somebody back a little bit Disrupt the timing of the offense.

And I think that Frankie Louvoo is the kind of psycho that is gonna be ready to do that. Well, he's a penetrator. He's organized chaos in the bottle. He's the Tasmanian devil. He's everything that you want at the linebacker position. Yes, he can make plays, but we need the D-line to play on the other side of the ball

because they get behind that mammoth offensive line and they let Saquon pick his holes. So they're running a zone scheme. That's why you see him bouncing from hole to hole. And once he fires, they crack. That's when he hit him. So it ain't going to be one of the things where it's just Frankie Louver. Frankie Louver going to have to bring some of his homeboys to the party.

It's going to take a group to stop Saquon Barkley. So it's one of the things where it's going to have to be Bobby Wagner to the bowl. Corey Martin to it. And Jeremy Chen has been an enforcer. I don't know if people been watching Jeremy Chen, but Jeremy Chen has been playing light side in the scrawl safety position. It's gonna take a group, it's gonna take a family to stop St. Quentin Barkley.

Luckily, I think we got the guys with Payne, Allen, rest of those guys. Lawrence, I think we got the guys to make this happen. Okay, so we're making the case for the commanders. Obviously you're picking the commanders, Fred PFT obviously is as well. Max, our producers, a big Eagles fan. Max, do you have any counter to this? Because it is one sided right now, uh, to, to the idea that the commanders, I like, I'm probably going to pick the commanders against the spread, but what max, what do you say? I mean, Fred's right here. Face him head on. Yeah, no, I think, I think the defense

you are greatly overestimating how much better this defense has been than the past couple of defenses you've been playing. Jayden Daniels hasn't looked as good as he has in the past couple as he has the past couple of weeks against elite defenses and the Eagles are an elite defense. Yes. Jayden Daniels is very Jaden Daniels is very good but this is a different this is a different animal and it's not I understand that Detroit was a tough place to go into and win but that team what you were playing is a third string defense this isn't this isn't the same this isn't the same team you know what I love the fact that you got your version and I got the truth now Now let me give you a couple of facts when it comes to the truth.

You've already beaten y'all. We let you off the hook rooms in Philadelphia. And let's be honest. When we played in Detroit, we could go position to position comparing our offices. And they got better players than us at every position besides one. That's quarterback. Like my quarterback is better than yours. That's what I told them against Jay Gough well guess what I'm gonna say against the Philadelphia My quarterback is better than Lord so at the end of the day the quarterback position Sometimes with fine stated don't forget don't forget I know you like to forget you say yeah, I've been praying so well we threw five touchdowns again

She will we beat you on the walk off touchdown the last time we played So this is all I'm gonna say one of my ways told me the true hurt Just a little bit more than a lot, but if you want me to lie to you, I'll make it sound bloody All right. There's another fact that if you if you want to talk about facts You said that the Eagles had a completely healthy secondary But CJ Gardner Johnson got kicked out of that game for talking shit was he healthy got everything he deserved Yep, yeah coming coming from you Talking shit everyone should get kicked out of the game for talking shit. Was he healthy? He got everything he deserved. Yup, yup, coming from you. Talking shit, everyone should get kicked out of the game

for talking a little shit. It happens when you go across the line. Like the one thing about it is, our team doesn't hurt itself in that type of way. Our team plays with discipline. It's a difference between a dead queen coach team and a serrionic coach team because- Your guy punched him in the face. No, no, the one one thing y'all got guys on the sideline reading the Bible. We don't do that

Well, I say Jalen Carter it's gonna be a tough day with a backup going against Jalen Carter Well, it's not a backup We got Taylor be honest in it in a it's don't know if we can introduce you to him because he's dominated everybody from Dexter Lawrence and anybody else he's played. We're going to be fine. Next man up mentality. At this point of the year, everybody got people hurt. Philadelphia got people hurt.

Will you tell us how hurt is your quarterback, the one that you got the fat head of right behind you? How hurt is he? He's not. I mean, we'll see. We'll see. He didn't look great at the end of last week, but a lock and change in a week. Yeah. You know, a lot in the last time we played child, right? He was out for two weeks after we ran into him a couple of times. Mr. Frankie Louvo. Yeah. Helmet the helmet. We don't, we don't condone helmet. The helmet player safety's pair. All right. So Fred, I got a question for you about the mentality here because I

do think there's an interesting aspect of the game and it's not saying that like windows open or anything, but the commanders are underdogs. It does feel like they, there's a lot of pressure on the Eagles because this team is, you know, their defense is young, but they're, they got some older dudes on the offensive line. You don't know how many times you'll be back here. Do you think that that is real? That the commanders can play a little more free and that underdog role of like, Hey, no one's expecting us to be here. We don't have the same pressure. We can play a little more free. We can play a little more like that underdog role. Is that a real thing that happens in the locker room? I just think we in an unexpected window.

I don't think we want to call ourselves underdogs. That ain't what Coach Quinn teaches. He said there were a couple of times, like that ain't what we do. We here because we supposed to be here. All right, we're a team of destiny. It's a different, like everything's going, like, you know, sometimes it takes the football guys

for things to follow y'all way. Y'all remember the open hand with Tom Brady and Childs? Y'all remember the open hand with Tom Brady and child was God remember a Pat Mahomes numerous times. Things happen in this game. And the one thing we're not doing is saying we're not supposed to be here. We're playing with house money. No, we're not playing with house money.

We're too much destiny. And the only things in our way is a city with a broken build in there in a statue of a man that don't exist in Rocky. So at the end of the day, we're going to Philadelphia and we're not going to eat cheesesteaks. We're going there to get a victory. We're four quarters away from a Super Bowl. Nobody would have gave us a chance to say that at the beginning of the year and the team that's in front of us is trying to stop us is a team that we already

beat one time and we took to the brink at home. We're not afraid of the Philadelphia Eagles. I can't wait because I really do. I'm loving this. Everybody said all year long the NFC North was the best conference in football. Psych is the NFC. This is actually unfair what we're doing to Max right now because bringing in Fred Smoot as mouthpiece for the commanders is like the most tilted you can get in an argument. I mean, he's also just not saying that Kenny Pickett was the quarterback in the game. That hasn't been mentioned once. Well, he wasn't talking about doing anything against the office. He was talking about the five touchdowns. But you

have to, I mean that, that is a big piece of the game. No, he wants your backup quarterback. Just like when Marcus Mariota comes in the game for us, all he do is ball. Because guess what? We took time and we picked the right guy. Y'all pick Kenny Pickett, he's nothing like the starter. Your whole office changed when he come in the game. So I can't blame the fan base, but I can't blame the front office.

Oh, but this is, you agree PFT, like there's, you can't argue with Fred Smoot. No, no, it's impossible He's has anything you're gonna lose gonna win by three because you could you could say something you could you could make a great Point against him and then he's gonna come back and make a louder point that rhymes. Yeah I can't compete with the rhyme Fred I think I Like I love the vibes. I'm a little bit, I'm backing off saying team of destiny just yet. Cause I, I'm also, I respect the Philadelphia Eagles.

I respect that. Why stop you from saying that? Because I don't think we're playing with house money. Cause I think house money means we looked up and got here. We beat legit playoff teams. We beat, we went to Tampa and beat them on the road. We went to Detroit and beat them on the road. We have beat playoff teams all year long. on the road. We have big playoff teams all year long.

We beat Philadelphia. We have big playoff team. We have bro to bro with giants. We have back down from mode one. And like I said, long as we enter a game and my quarterback is the best quarterback on the field, we feel like we can win the game. And we walk in Philadelphia this week. We don't feel like our quarterback is better than yours.

I'm with you, I'm with that. I love the mentality. I just don't think saying team of destiny is a good, cause you gotta go out there and you gotta earn it. If you go into thinking team of destiny, then it's like, oh, we're gonna win because we're the team of destiny. That's quiet self-confidence.

They're saying that we're not playing with house money. Like when you say, I'm here playing with house money, we're smoking to the Braille. That's, that's a hint of we're not supposed to be here. No, no, no, no, no, no. My, when I say house money, I mean, like I think the commanders are very good and I think Jayden Daniels is the best quarterback in this game. I'm saying more like this season going into it, you never expect to be in the NFC championship game. You can play loose. You can play fast. You can play this like this feeling of like, Hey, what we've been doing, we're on this incredible run. Let's just keep being ourselves and play the way we want to play. And hopefully the other side

gets a little, little tight here and there because you know, their offense hasn't looked as, as crisp as, as the commanders have. So it's not, it's not a diss. It's like the house money is a great thing to have. Cause you're just sitting there like, Hey, we're going to go out and be ourselves. And I do think I said this, like maybe I think it was after the Falcons games. Like there's something about Jayden Daniels that he makes everyone better on that team. And when he has the ball late, you just expect him to do something. Uh, and you have that faith in him that I think elevates an entire team.

Big hit. Let me ask you this, big hit. All right, let's just say the game is 25-25. We got the ball, Les, with two minutes left. Who we game? Yeah, you guys. I said it in the Bucs game. I turned to, I think it was Hank, I was sitting next to when the Bucs kicked the field goal, I turned to him and I said and I said bucks aren't getting the ball back. Like they just aren't getting the ball back for minutes. I was like, they're not getting the ball back. Jane Daniels is going to figure this out and that fourth down, you know, like you guys have been running so hot on fourth down, which obviously this was a 20 of 23. Well, we got a big down team of all time. Say it with right. It's big cat. Yeah, no, no, it's, it's insane. Now

are you going to, are they going to be 20 of 23 percentage wise for the rest of his career? Probably not, but it doesn't matter because they're 20, 23 right now and that's how they're running. And they, and I love that Dan Quinn is staying aggressive that Marcus Mariota fourth down to start the lions game was bad. Yeah. And he didn't, it didn't, he didn't blink. He was like, no, no, no This is what we're doing and it's it's almost like the commanders have gotten into the push the tush push territory where better Yeah, if you look at the statistics and you compare it to I heard you say this smooth You compare it to 2022 when the tush push was unstoppable the commander's fourth down has been better than yeah And it's it's it's that point where it's like, if they can get it, all they have to do, it

changes the whole approach offensively because they basically are saying, get us to fourth and three. If you get us to fourth and three, we'll convert it. Actually, we've been more dangerous because we've been doing it on fourth and seven, fourth and eight. Yeah. The thing about it is the four best fourth down teams are the four teams that's left in the playoff right now,

the Tush Pushe in Philadelphia, Josh Allen in Buffalo, and of course, of course, the gods give, the prince that was promised, Patrick Mahomes in Kansas City, they all four are ranked one, two, three, and four in fourth down. I think they has a lot to do with who makes it to the Super Bowl because of that,

because you're talking about teams, four teams that don't turn the ball over much. I think it has a lot to do with who makes it to the Super Bowl because of that because you're talking about teams, four teams that don't turn the ball over much. You're talking about four teams that can run the ball not with just their running backs, but they can legitimately run it with their quarterbacks. You're talking about four teams that's optimistic on defense and play great special teams. So this is going to come down to the end. Both games is going to come down to the end. And if Jedi Five gets their ball ass,

may the force be with you. I love that. I like Jedi five. I love that smooth. Do you have any thoughts on the AFC championship game? Do you have a pick? You know what, I think it's gonna be another classic, man. Think about it, end game with Padmahomes and Josh Allen hand lining this game.

This game can go either way. And for the first time in a long time Somebody's gonna go to Kansas City That's not afraid of the code because Buffalo not afraid of the code and one thing we know about Buffalo is James Cook You'd be running that ball down here and they get to possessing that ball and make it Pat Mahone watch that game We could have that all rematch up I don't know if they were Super Bowl 20 or 23 or 24 But you remember Washington and Buffalo played a Super Bowl that we end up beating him in I don't know maybe we get another replay of that

Yeah, if we're lucky enough to make it to the Super Bowl smooth I think me and you should host a love boat party on Lake Pontchartrain. What do you think? Yes, we should. Yes, we should Get some ladies get some liquor out there. We'll have a good time. Nobody's telling us for pissing. We need to go there and brave in Bourbon Street. That's what we need to do.

All right. We need to go and take on New Orleans like never before. You're talking about a fan base that hasn't had this chance in three decades, almost four decades. Y'all have awakened a sleeping giant. I got fans from Australia to Canada to China. We got so many fans when it comes to it. They have nothing to cheer for for over three decades. And now we are back as America's new team.

That's the new model. All right. I'm going to look at boats if we win this game. I'm not going to look at boats until after after the final with Sunday Make sure it's a yacht Yeah, we'll get a yacht. It's gotta be yeah, we'll get it Or maybe it's gonna be maybe get strippers on the fan boat out there. Yeah, don't come out there in the tub But you get no love All right, well Fred I have one last question for you

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And I cannot wait to go to King Street and get real a Philly cheesesteak all my way back home to the DMV I Love it from your lips to God's ears Fred. Yes. Yes, please please. We need it. We need it Well, this is a good fair and balanced preview We just squeeze this cave we just invited Fred on to just fucking bash backs over the head We just invited Fred on to just fucking bash backs over the head Definitely is usually doing to us and you know It has got to a point where feeling definitely a fan base is so hostile that our fans afraid to just travel up 95 and go to a game but we kind of acted this because everybody got a

Cousin nephew brother somebody with a teardrop on their eye that don't believe in falling in the rules. So we're going to get all them in the car and we heading to Philadelphia to fight back this week. Oh man. I love it, Fred. I hope you're right. I hope you're right. I love the confidence.

I wish I could be as confident as you. I'm nervous. Because what I hear, Philadelphia's feeling a little worried. But what scares you? That there ain't my Super Bowl wonder it would not that makes you know. No, I respect the hell of their defense and Jalen Carter is a guy that will wreck a game and you can't really stop them for the full 60 minutes and then Saquon Barkley might be the best offensive player in the NFL. So they there's a there's a lot to be

in the NFL. Yeah. So they there's there's a lot to be concerned about. But that said, you remember sexy Dexley Lawrence from the New York Giants who dominated everybody this year? He didn't dominate us. The others shut him down. I do. You remember via Vail one of the best defensive attackers in football.

The others made him come up missing and still putting them on the miracle. But you remember all the DJs that we faced all year and Jane He's kind of included in that him and Boyden Davis. We've been there We've done that the only people we afraid of is Jesus. I am there you're pulling him out. We ain't afraid Yeah, all right Fred. I mean, I I think that made on I also should be 14-point favorites if you're listening to this I also I respect Big Dom. Oh, he scares scares me too, but I love it. I'm confident I think that I think we've got a real chance at winning And if we play our game and if we operate in fast and no huddle tire the defense I could see it happening. I hope you're right. I hope you're right. Why not us this all I'm gonna tell you why not us

I hope you're right. Why not us? That's all I'm gonna tell you. Why not us? Yeah, man. All right. Well Fred, thanks so much man And and hopefully we see you in New Orleans because that would be great most definitely we got a couple of weeks fellow But we have no after this weekend. Are we back into are we back in the Super Bowl one though? Coach deals talked about it this week and you know when the Joseph talks we listen they're green Been talking about it. So come on, man. The football guys are lining for Washington right now, right now between the football team in

Washington, the baseball team in Washington, the capital is the number one. This is Washington district of champions. I am the guy I want to come up on the bandwagon. You welcome to.

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We've got to throw out the Browns there too. Mitch, thank you for joining us. We appreciate it. I want to do the hardest question first, if that's okay. I want to do the real hard question first, then we can do easier questions about the game after. The hard question is, when you were playing for the Chiefs winning a Super Bowl. How did it work with the refs telling you they were going to like throw the game for you. Was that during the week

or was it just on Sunday morning where they would come in the locker room and be like hey guys don't worry we got your back. Yeah it was Sunday before the game. You know they didn't want us to mess with our preparation. And then, um, you know, I was really thankful for that because I ended up, my career ended with a second back surgery. So I just got to thank the reps for, uh, you know, causing me all that pain that ended up requiring another surgery. Cause I'm so thankful to have back pain for the rest of my life.

Yeah. I figured it'd be during the game, like in WWE, when they like whisper something into each other's ears I'm just gonna be like I'm gonna call hands to the face act like he hit you in the face Yeah, and then you just go out there and do that. You did a great job, but you're a great actor. Yeah Thank you So that's that's honestly my thing if people actually think that that's realistic and that's what's happening Then treat it like wrestling then it's fake and treat it like wrestling and stop complaining about it

Yeah, so you don't care or treat it like wrestling is one of the two So what what do you what's your take on all of this? Because obviously the Texans game I know we were we had the take after the Texans game that listen I don't think the Texans those weren't the two plays that made them lose the game. They they were bad in special teams. They didn't get a couple big fourth down conversions. The Chiefs convert on the big plays and take advantage of big plays time and time again in the playoffs. But what do you say to people who are conspiracy theorists and being like the Chiefs get all the calls and this is bullshit? You know, there's only so much you can

say. I think the first call was legitimate. I mean, there's that camera angle from the side that for every reason they didn't show Buck and Aikman when Aikman was complaining about it. They only showed the one from behind that looks like he doesn't get hit in the face. But there's one from the side that for every reason they didn't show Buck and Aikman when Aikman was complaining about it. They only showed the one from behind that looks like he doesn't get hit in the face. But there's one from the side that you can argue that Hellman is touching Pat's face mask. But there's in general that kind of forcible contact to the head and neck area. His head snaps back. And it's defined in the rule book, if you're unsure, throw the flag because we want to

protect the quarterback. So that one sucks if you're a Texans fan or you're rooting against the Chiefs, but I think the refs were correct on that. The second one I disagree with, I think that it was a late slide and the guys were already committed. It wasn't the Trevor Lawrence slide that I felt like, you know, Al Shair had plenty of time to pull up. I felt like Pat slid late and there probably should have been a penalty or there shouldn't have been a penalty. So yeah, I mean, one out of two and, you, and I've seen people say, obviously I've got a lot of cheese fans in the follows in the timeline. If that penalty doesn't get called, it's second and six.

It's not like that was the end of the drive. It's not like that was a turnover type of play. It ends up being second and six in a game that, to your point, Kansas City largely controlled, especially defensively. I understand why people get frustrated when there's kind of ticky-tack calls but I think it's just a volume thing that chiefs have been on TV in prime time the most of any team the last seven years and People like to root against you when you're having success So, of course there are gonna be plenty of calls we see him in every game every single week

The refs are not as good as we want them to be It's just we see a lot more high leverage calls with the Chiefs playing. The volume thing is something that I don't think I ever brought up, but that's a really good point. They are on TV the most and they're in these big games. They've been in, they played the most playoff games in the last six or seven years. So you're just going to see it and whenever it happens for the Chiefs, everyone's like, well, it's a conspiracy theory. Right. And I'll give you a little bit of ammunition that you can use and chiefs fans can use this too this weekend. So the referee assignments for this weekend, Cleve Blakeman is the head ref.

The Kansas city chiefs are nine and seven with Cleve Blakeman as the ref since Patrick Mahomes was the starter for the chiefs. That sounds like a, you know, not a bad record, nine and seven until you realize that the Chiefs in that same time period are 90 and 26. So like, if you just look at that, Cleve Blakeman is the most effective person in the NFL at stopping Patrick Mahomes at nine and seven. Yeah, it was the thing with, I think it was the Texans game. They're like, Oh, the Chiefs are four and0 or whatever they've never lost with the ref it's like yeah when you're 80% over the guy's career you know and there's 20 refs there's gonna be a few refs that have never called a game that the Chiefs lose like that's just the percentages but I don't think anyone who's still talking about the refs and like talking about it in a meaningful way wants to hear both sides

they're just stuck in with their side they want to to complain about it. They want to be online. So it's not even fun to try to actually use stats. There's a lot of people out there who are compiling different things. Every single data point shows that this isn't a real thing, but people just don't want to hear it. And that's okay. You don't have to. It's people who are blowing off steam and they're angry because the chiefs are really

good and there's a lot of fan bases that have been personally affected by the Chiefs that don't want the Chiefs to win anymore. So sometimes it's easier to just complain just bitch and moan about it. It's the American way. Yeah, they have a right. Yeah. Right to do that. All right. So in terms of this game and the Chiefs this season, you know, you know the game at such a high level you watch the chiefs, you know, you know what that locker room is like. And you read like, are, are we in the mindset that the chiefs have a, uh, you know, switch that they're able to flip for the playoffs and their offense is able to hit a different level or is it, Hey, maybe this offense is not going to look great for this playoff run, but it doesn't matter because Patrick Holmes will get you the big third downs and he'll find Travis Kelsey and it will work and all that matters is winning games. Yeah I don't think it's a switch that gets

flipped I think there is a human element to it that it is really hard to play a lot of football games to be the best team and every year have every team treat your game like it's the biggest one on the calendar. You know in week two or three whatever it was when Kansas City went to Atlanta, there was some thing that this is Atlanta's biggest game since 2017. It's like, okay, well this is just another Sunday Night Football game for Kansas City.

Like, that's a huge difference when one team is treating it as like the biggest game in the last eight years of their franchise, and for the other team, it's just another ho-hum game. And as much as we want to discredit that human element, like that's part of it. So it is hard to, you know, match the other team, it's just another ho-hum game. And as much as we want to discredit that human element, like that's part of it. So it is hard to match the other team's energy level every single week throughout the course of a season,

let alone over the last five years. I think it's been really interesting that in the media, the players that have come to the Chiefs defense the most have been the Patriots guys, because they are the only ones that have been through something similar to this. Obviously they had a 20 year run, but they understand how difficult that is to

be the team that gets hunted year after year after year. And you know, that seems like they have a lot of respect for what Kansas City has done and still putting out the records they do when in the Superbowl. So I think once you get to the playoffs, you're able to, from the Kansas City perspective, you know, that sense of urgency, it's cliche and sounds dorky, but this game could be your last. Like the sense of urgency is upped obviously these guys have shown that they have an ability to raise their games in the biggest moments and so it's

not like oh on first and second down we'll just kind of do whatever and you know Pat'll make us right somehow he does make most things right on third down I still don't know exactly how that's the case other than he does it and he's done it since he started playing for Kansas City. But no, it's just it's a combination. Really, that's the biggest thing I learned last year, you know, after the Raiders game on Christmas, I was like, okay, chiefs gonna make the playoffs, it's gonna be really hard to win four straight games against good teams and win the Super Bowl. And then they won four straight games against really good teams, including going to Baltimore, who is a consensus best team,

top five offense, top five defense, top five special teams. Uh, and you know, one that won pretty convincingly and then had a good Superbowl. So we now have evidence and proof that Kansas city can elevate in the playoffs, but I don't think that means that they're not trying as hard necessarily in the regular season. It just an element of how important the playoffs are. Yeah. And it does, it does feel like it comes, you know, it doesn't feel like the whole team flips switch, but it does feel like that is the case for Kelsey in terms of he's later in his career and that stat that we talked about on this show, but everyone's been talking about the 14 straight playoff games where

he has 70 yards or more. What is it about Kelsey and how he's able to operate? Is it really like sometimes in the huddle, he's just, he's like, I'm just going to be open, find me because it does feel like that where it's like, he's not even running a route that's like predetermined. He's just finding open space and whenever they need a big play, he's there. Yeah. He doesn't have to say that. It's just understood that whatever the lines are on the paper, uh, you know, Travis is going to use that as his jumping off point. And then he's just going to kind of feel his way through there and figure out exactly where he needs to be to get open.

I think, again, he's 35, it's hard to play tight end in the NFL, I mean, again, this gets into the Gronk comparison, but you know, Gronk's been retired twice now and Trav's still kicking, so it's hard to be an elite tight end into your mid-30s, late-30s, and so there is that element of, you know, doing what you need to do and not necessarily more in the regular season, understanding that you need to play your best football in January and February.

And the help of the schedule in terms of getting the one seat in the by and being able to rest in week 17. We saw that last year, you know, the start of the season, Trav was injured week one and I feel like never really got fully healthy until that week 17, or I guess week 18 now, he got the week off that he chose not to chase the thousand yard record. This year, we know the guy's got 24 days, Travis obviously looks a little more spry,

a little bit more juice in those legs at 35. So yeah, there's something to understanding what's needed when your best is needed and also, I think people understand how important Travis is to the team, but the emotional leadership that he provides on the offense, you know, as he goes, the team goes. And again, getting back to what I said earlier, it's hard to be that emotional leader every single game all the time, be hyped at all times and do it at the age that he is. So it does make sense that it's easier to conjure that magic for all 60 minutes in the playoffs. Yeah, there's another guy that always shows up in big moments, and that's Chris Jones. It seems like every big third down

He's making a play I'm curious to know from your perspective as an offensive lineman and you can get as like detailed and nitty gritty as you want What is it about Chris Jones that makes him such a pain in the ass for offensive lineman to deal with? Yeah, I mean he's been he's been shown up in big moments since the combine. He showed flashes. So the thing with Chris is he's so naturally strong. You know, when you're watching film or one of the scouting

reports, the reason he wasn't like a clear first rounder, well, he plays high and he's got to get his pad level down. Turns out you don't have to get your pad level down if you're stronger than the guy across from you. And so what Chris combines is a great national strength with really skilled hands and the ability to basically make the offensive lineman wrong. If he beats you with power and that bull rush and that strength, your tendency is an offensive lineman. You want to get your hands on the guy. You want to try to lock him up early.

You want to kind of shut down the rush before it gets started. Well, the second you throw your hands at Chris, he swipes them. He beats you on the corner. You do get your hands on him you know, we call it a Hamilton technique, but basically he grabs your wrist lifts it up and Converts into power and kind of walks you back to the quarterback so he has the ability to make you wrong however you want to block him if you want to be handsy and and be a Jumpy and try to get on him before he gets started You're gonna get swum and you're gonna get beat With those Hamilton techniques and if you if you wanna kinda play patty cake

and back up and kinda shake with him, he'll just run right through you and get to the quarterback either way. So it puts the offense alignment in a really tough bind. You're not quite sure what technique to use because typically there's one thing I can try to take away and if the guy beats me on a second or third best move, okay, I can deal with that.

But Chris's two best moves counter the two things you want to do as an offense alignment so he really makes life difficult and Unless you've played him unless you kind of understand, you know how to block him I think you have to do that in real time Yeah, and obviously that's a pretty difficult task You always see the offense lineman doing that sad little turn after their hands get hit to the side and he's by you and you Know that he's by you they do the sad turn where they like take one step like they're gonna try to catch him and block him again but he's like halfway to the

quarterback and they just have to I guess run a couple steps so they can help their guy up after you get sacked well usually guys get beat so bad they get so discouraged that you don't even like think to go get the quarterback you're just like oh man and you dropped your head and there's some times where guys criticize offensive lineman for not picking up the quarterback, you're just like, oh man, and you drop your head, and there's some times where guys criticize offensive linemen for not picking up the quarterback. It's like, you are so disheartened that it happened that you don't even remember to go get the quarterback.

You just know that inner shame is so strong that you almost forget to go get him. So yeah, it is a sad little thing. Obviously, whenever one of us gets beat, they like to draw the circles and make sure everyone knows exactly who you are and how you got beat so it's not so much fun. The other sad thing is when they call illegal man downfield on an RPO and like what are you supposed to do as an offensive lineman in that

situation is that your fault like do the coaches end up chewing you out because you got the flag afterwards? It depends on the timing I know you love good questions that's a good question. It depends on the timing. I know you love good questions. That's a good question. Good question. It depends on how good your coaches are. It depends on how locked in you are as the lineman. But you know if it's an RPO.

And you have to change your angles. And you have to change your timing to not be downfield. You know, if the quarterback is getting rid of it within the kind of acceptable window of RPO, you're reading somebody, OK, the read tells me to throw it. I'm going to pull it and throw it. The offensive lineman should not be downfield If the offensive lineman runs up to the linebacker immediately or if you know

He's using his correct technique staying at the line and then goes past line of scrimmage and still gets a flag Then you know, it's probably on the quarterback. So Yeah, it can be the offensive lineman's fault for sure There's also times where you realize that you're a little bit too downfield. You realize it's not a run play and you try to turn around and backtrack. Sometimes you do the old dump truck technique. You just start backing up. Sometimes you turn and try to get a couple steps in and get closer to the line. So there are some tricks as well if you do

realize you're downfield. I feel like people have gotten smarter about offensive line play through the years and especially to the point where I think it's now common knowledge amongst football fans that sacks are not always on the offensive line. There's times when the quarterback is holding on to the ball too long or he steps to a place where he shouldn't step to and he's not stepping up and there's a pocket there. When you were playing, would quarterbacks ever say to you, like, hey, that was my bad? Like, that wasn't on you, even though technically,

if they replay it, it's like you got, you know, you got beat to a position, but the quarterback had a spot where he could have gone, he just didn't go there. Yeah, absolutely. It's usually not necessarily during the game. You know, you're just kind of in the flow of the game. And it's not like, he's like, ah, you suck.

You know, you need to give me more protection. It's not, you don't play for that guy either. You know, it just, snacks happen and you move on and you try to make the flow of the game. And it's not like he's like, ah, you suck. You know, you need to give me more protection. It's not, you don't play for that guy either. You know, it just, sacks happen and you move on and you try to make the best of it. But, you know, after games or, you know, the next day while you're watching film, quarterbacks definitely will come up to you and say, hey, you know, kind of screwed you guys there.

It's typically not holding onto the ball per se. I think that's more of an understood thing. You know, at times they'll come in and say, hey, I'm going to get rid of it a little sooner. You know, you guys are doing a good job, but it's more kind an understood thing. You know, at times they'll come in and say, hey, I'm gonna get rid of it a little sooner. You know, you guys are doing a good job, but it's more kind of that depth of the pocket or where he's supposed to be. You know, sometimes guys can get a little too deep.

Sometimes they like to bounce around too much when they feel things. It's a good notice from you, you know, Chicago fan and the quarterback situation. I'm sure you've got your spreadsheet of how many of those sacks are on the O-line versus the quarterback Yeah, people have pointed that out

What was it was it hard to adjust to blocking for Mahomes because he does float sometimes But he does it so effectively and it's not it when Mahomes is floating. It never feels like he's floating in a panic move or Like he doesn't he's not in control. it's just he kind of has that spatial awareness that only the elite guys seem to have. No he makes it easy for us I think that blocking for a guy especially as the right tackle with a right handed quarterback that can flush to your side you know if my guy goes too far up the field kind of runs that loop too high that opens up path throwing side you know we've seen defensive coordinators now try

to use that to their advantage and then you you have the spy, you know, popping over the top, probably see that a little bit with, you know, Milano or Terrell Bernard, one of those guys chasing him down. Um, but it's to my advantage because in that defensive end doesn't feel like he gets to rush the way he wants to. He has to have that contain in the back of his head. You know, I think it was we were playing Denver and my guy didn't allow Pat to stay in the pocket pack out outside. And I just heard the coach scream at him, you got to keep contained. I'm like, okay, so this definitely does benefit me. Yeah. Um,

but there are some interesting stats, you know, you can, if you really want to get into the negrity, you can look at, you know, quarterbacks, look at offensive tackles and look at how often guys see inside moves. Um, you know, some of those sites now that the break things down, you'll see against mobile quarterbacks, offensive tackles are likely not getting as many inside moves. You know, some of those sites now that the break things down, you'll see against mobile quarterbacks, offensive tackles are likely not getting as many inside moves. Because again, if the offensive tackle blocks it correctly, they flat it off, you've now opened up the outside area to where the

quarterback can scramble where you can make plays happen on the move. So yeah, it's always beneficial to block for a quarterback that's running in my mind. It's not beneficial when they take a long time in the pocket to realize that they should break container that they should run. That's definitely the hard part. Yeah. For this specific game, how are you feeling about the chiefs offensive line? Cause they haven't had the best season. There's been some ups and downs. You know, they, they moved toony out to a tackle, which he he's done a good job there. I, it, you could make

the argument it's probably hurt their run game a little bit, but maybe protects Pat Patmore. But how do you feel overall in terms of how they're coming together because we've seen it. I mean the only time Patrick Mahomes has really had you know a horrific well he I guess the Bengals game in the AFC championship game but the Super Bowl against the Bucks when when he was just under fire the whole time. No one can win in that situation. But how are you feeling about this particular matchup against the Bills? It's going to be tough. I mean, the Bills run defense wise played so well in the first half against Baltimore. I think we all expected Baltimore to run the ball and be effective.

But the Bills run defense showed up. You know, Von Miller seems to be talked about Kelsey earlier turning on the playoffs. Von's turning it on and Oliver's turning it on. You know, Rousseau has been an ascending player for a while, so they've got all the pieces there. You know, I think maybe a benefit to Kansas City's O-line, I felt like they didn't play their best game against the Texans in large part because the Texans are so good. But you know, when you're kind of watching the film back and you're looking at certain things, it wasn't maybe

the performance from the start that the offensive line wanted. I thought they had played well in that three game in 10 or 11 day stretch, regressed a little bit against Houston. So that feeling of, hey, we need to do better, we need to show our guy that we're in control and we can kick ass and do what we need to do to make him feel better. That makes me a little bit optimistic. I think that's going to be honestly the key determining factor to the game.

On the other side of the ball, the Bell's offense line, I think, has played fantastic all year. I think that's really the under talked about part of, you know, we see all the chatter now with Buffalo. People say we don't have weapons and they've it's like, well, the offensive line is probably aside from Josh Allen, your best offensive weapon for the course of the season. You watch him and he sits back there. The pockets are beautiful. He's got all day.

He's able to do what he wants. I think, you know, they don't necessarily get the individual accolades. Dawkins gets some. Spencer Brown got a big contract and has ascended as a player. But by and large, they don't get the accolades on an individual level that Kansas City's O-line does. But I think for the whole, and especially from a pass game perspective, they've done a really great job

throughout the course of the year. Yeah, they're able to run the ball really the course of the year. Yeah. Yeah. They're able to run the ball really effectively against Baltimore too. Your rushing defense might be a different story. Spag Noonlil, he always seems to have something planned. He's always thinking a couple steps ahead. I heard somebody talk about this a couple months ago and it made me wonder that Spag should be a Hall of Famer as a coordinator.

I don't think there are any coordinators in the Hall of Fame. Are there no offensive coordinators, no defensive coordinators? Like obviously guys have gone on to be head coaches later, but I feel like if SPAC, if you get, if you get three in a row in this defense plays well again, I think SPAC should probably be considered for the Hall of Fame at that point. I agree. I mean, he's one, I think it's either four or five Super Bowls as a defensive coordinator. He kind of, youded in that new era of the four defensive ends and a rush package. I think he inherited that from the 06, 07 Giants and then kind of made it his own, that NASCAR package back in the day. That kind of changed football, how you got after quarterbacks, being able to put smaller guys in the B-gaps and run some funky things on third downs and That evolution of what he's become. I mean he went to st. Louis didn't have success

Not many people did have success there, you know I don't know how much you pin on him how much you want to pin on just the general tenor there But yeah, I mean what he's been able to do for Kansas City You know Bob sudden had a lot of success the defensive coordinator things that a little stale You know got rid of him brought in spags and that's really been a key point of the Kansas city run. And lucky enough that, you know, he's older and he did fail in his first spot that he hasn't gotten poached away. You know,

most guys with his level of success will have gotten a head coaching job at this point. You know, when you look at the, the body of work the last five years. So, uh, definitely the lungs in the hall of fame, if you're looking at best coordinators, I don't know how you can have a list without him pretty high on the defensive side. Yeah. And on the other side, tell me about what a great job Matt Nagy has done this year. Yeah, it's been a, I mean, the whole chief's offense, I think has been interesting. Okay, so here's my thoughts on the chief's offense. Hollywood Brown was gonna play a massive role.

He was killing an OTA, as the guys were really excited about him. He essentially was the closest thing to Tyreek since Tyreek in terms of the burst, the long speed, the route running, kind of being able to run the offense through him. Rashid had the role as kind of that slot guy, the inside guy, intermediate,

and obviously Kelsey's Kelsey. Hollywood goes down, and I think that just completely threw off what the offense was looking like. Now where she comes out, has like 30 catches in the first three weeks, he gets hurt, he's out for the year. Now you're out both of your receivers.

And I think that honestly threw off what the Chiefs offense was gonna be. Xavier Worthy gets drafted in the first round. You're thinking he's gonna be the third option at best. But now he's the number one receiver because your top two guys are down. And he's learning on the on the go obviously you know Travis is being Travis and as we talked about earlier maybe not playoff Travis throughout the course of the season and so they finally kind of found that groove in weeks 10

11 12 figuring out exactly what the roles were gonna be Hollywood comes back trade for Deandre Hopkins you know Brian McColl he's hurt now so I do think the offense has had to adapt on the fly and as people want to talk about other offenses and, you know, Lamar from this past, like, well, he's without wide receiver one and he's without this and without that. It's like, well, the Chiefs have been in without wide receiver one pretty much all year, whether you want to define that as Hollywood or Rishi, people don't want to necessarily speak about that.

They're on the fourth left tackle. Like they've had all these different injuries as well. So I think that the offense has had to change. I do think they have had it done a pretty good job of figuring that out. I think the Texans defense is just pretty good. And so it's not what we're used to seeing from 2019, 2020, where it just bombs away and scoring 30 plus points every game. But I do think the offense understands what they want to be now and they can lean into that identity. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you could see it too with even Xavier worthy. They started getting his targets up towards the end of the season and it was clear that

they started to trust him more because I would imagine like just from a guy like Patrick Mahomes, like he's got, he can't just immediately say like, Oh, we draft this guy high. He's he I'm going to throw it to him, you know, 10 times a game. You have to find that, uh, you know, second nature where you're, you're, you, you can trust that they're going to make the play. You can trust, you can throw them the ball. It feels like they finally are there. Is that wrong? Like, is that right? Yeah, for sure. There's, there's the way, again,

the quarterback is supposed to kind of play the game on paper. And then there's the way Pat plays the game, which is similar to the way we talked about Travis earlier Like just feeling space understanding that not everything that you're supposed to do on the sheet is the thing that is expected of you You know, there's a lot of adjustments and this is what's made passing offenses come down a little bit It's what's made uh things so difficult from the offensive side is defenses are so much more complex You know we see all the cool clips of safety spinning around

and this invert too that everyone likes to talk about and sound smart and all these different things that defenses are doing, realizing, hey, we can still play the cards that we want and confuse the offense. Well, if you're a receiver and you're a rookie and you're trying to figure out, is it cover two? Is it cover three?

Is it cloud coverage? What's my adjustment off that? You know, is the quarterback expecting me at a different level? That's a lot to think about while you're trying to go full speed on third and 12. So there definitely is a learning curve in terms of what's expected of you for the offense.

And then also, you know, kind of how Pat sees things and how he plays it. Coach Reed talked about that last year with Rashi kind of learning Pat being my home is friendly. He's talked about a little bit this year with Xavier and you can definitely see a huge difference. And to your point, he's being asked to do so much now he is really a full compliment receiver who just happens to be

smaller and really fast. But he's not being used as a gadget guy. He's being used in all facets of the offense. And I think that is one of the things they realized once he was thrust into that role once he grew from weeks one to 10. But hey, we can trust him and we can put him in these spots and let him be a true receiver. He doesn't have to just be speed or jet sweep. Yeah, yeah. It's been really interesting to watch them develop.

They just overcome everything. That's the thing about the Chiefs is like as long as they have Patrick Mahomes, Andy Reid, Travis Kelsey, it feels like they'll figure the rest out and it's going to be a different solution every single year, but they'll end up getting there. And from the weather perspective it's not gonna be like it was last year where you had the the Dolphins coming to town and it was like six degrees it's gonna be like 34 maybe down into the upper 20s by the end of the game offensive linemen sleeves or

no sleeves so you're not supposed to wear sleeves you know we've gotten loose and you know soft as an offensive line community and allowed guys to start wearing sleeves over the years. If you are super cold, the thing you can do is put on elbow sleeves. You know, those things are nice and thick and insulated. I always wore an elbow brace on my inside arm. And if it was super cold, I would just like throw a sleeve or a brace on the other arm and it looks oh line sweet like, yeah, my elbows suck and I get to wear these things, but actually

keeps you pretty warm. So that's the kind of work around. If you want to, you know, look, you don't quote unquote old school line tough, but still want to get a little bit of extra warmth in there. I like that. That's a great trick. I would say the colder it gets, the less you should wear sleeves. I would actually be okay with the live in wearing sleeves if it was like 30 to 45 degrees

outside. You wear sleeves then, yeah, who cares? But if it's like 20 degrees, nah, sleeves off. Yeah. Got to show those gods. Yeah. I mean, I think it was straight hand that was like, I'd rather just feel good and play good and get sacks instead of like being miserable out there and being cold and not producing.

So there's, I mean, again, we've kind of gotten away with some old-school toughness stuff that's just stupid, like you want your guys to be comfortable and play well. That's really the most important thing at the end of the day. But from like a psycho crazy perspective, yeah, I think we still respect the guys who are out there. Sleeveless, I mean, there's not too many gloveless guys anymore. I think Nolan Smith on Philly is one of the few. But anytime you see a defensive end who's not wearing gloves, you just assume he's a psycho. Yeah.

There's no valid reason to do it. I think Jared Virst maybe doesn't wear gloves either. No surprise why he's gonna win defensive rookie of the year. Vita Ve doesn't. Every time I see Vita Ve, I'm like, how is he, he's just in the bottom of every pile and he's just got no gloves.

Trey Hendrickson. Yes, yeah, it's nuts. It's so intimidating. Mitch, your Twitter account, I love following you on Twitter because I do think that you put out really good, like, nuanced takes from someone who played in the NFL for as long as you did. Everyone should go follow him at MitchSchwartz71. I have a two-part question for your Twitter account. First is, how awesome does it feel when someone who just like watches film tries to correct you on how to play football and how to play offensive

line? Cause I've seen that happen a couple of times where someone will literally be arguing with you or your brother, Jeff, who's also great on Twitter. And it will just be like, you guys are arguing with people who actually played in the NFL and know what they're talking about. And it's someone who's sitting in like watching film and just guessing what's happening. I will say if you're at least watching the film, I'll respect the fact that you're trying to do this correctly. Yeah. You know, 99% of what I get is people who are not watching film or who just watch, you know, the game on TV and think they know what's happening. So that 1% of people who are watching the film, I respect that you're trying to do it.

I get really frustrated when people have a following and people are looked up to because they study football and they watch film and they put out analysis and then they're putting out bad analysis. You can't necessarily be a Twitter corrector, You just are the jackass who corrects everybody on Twitter and you look terrible. But it does frustrate me when people with followings put out bad info. So like you said, for the most part, I try to do things in a respectful way and nuanced

and I try to have the conversations and try to teach because I do want people to understand better. But it is frustrating when people don't take your experience into account. Like I at no point say I'm always correct about things, I'm willing to kind of talk through everything, but at some point you have to at least account for the fact that I did it. And that maybe I know a little nugget or two or maybe this is the thing with I don't think, you know, former players are the only ones that should be analysts.

I don't think you had to have played to have the certain like high level understanding, but I do think it shortens the time to see something and to understand what's going on. I can watch something and have a really good gut feeling about either what happened, what the guy was intending to do, maybe what the protection was supposed to be, that maybe other people who weren't in my shoes and didn't live that life would have to take a few more watchings to kind of figure out exactly what was supposed to go on. Yeah. So I do think that's where it's advantageous to have play because you can just look at stuff

and you're so used to seeing it. They're like, oh yeah, I know that's supposed to happen. The right tackle had a sift here and he was indecisive because he saw this. That gut feeling is what's really helpful having played the game. That's, and it does have to feel awesome. You took the nice approach, but I would be like,

if I had that type of expertise dunking on someone would feel so good. The other thing was you treated about this, I think it was either yesterday or the day before, and I found it fascinating because we're dumb fans and there's a lot of lions fans who this podcast specifically has put been putting them through hell because BFTs commanders beat them. The bears got Ben Johnson memes, jets got Aaron Glenn. We've rated the lion. So I do feel bad for them in that respect, but you pointed out that anyone who's blaming Ben Johnson for not being focused on the playoff game because he was doing interviews, doesn't realize that these

guys are not like, it's not like a, like a like all nighter for seven days straight trying to get a game plan. They have a game plan. They have their convictions. There's time when they're not working on the game plan because if they did they would just be getting way too nuanced and probably like analysis by paralysis. So you like that's that's the reality of it. Is it not. It is. I think the best example for that and he had admitted it after the fact is Sean McVay is. I think the best example for that, and he had admitted it after the fact, is Sean McVeigh, that Super Bowl against the Patriots, where he had two weeks and he just drove himself crazy

and he did too much and he tried to change too many things and he's a grinder by nature. That's why he burns out. And you can't watch 20 hours of film for 14 days straight. You're going to overthink things. The way the football week works, we get, we get for the most part, Monday, Tuesday off, you're in for one of those days, you're watching the film, you get a lift in and that's about it. Our work week technically starts Wednesday. Well, Wednesday, when we show up and we get the base game plan, the coaches did all the work Monday and Tuesday, those are their long days, those are the awful days where they're, you know, staying at the office all night or they're sleeping there for a couple hours. That's their, you know, Superbowl of the week.

And so we get our install Wednesday, we go through practice, we get installed for certain situations, Thursday practice, install for red zone on Friday, we practice. And at that point, the game plan is pretty much put together. You know, you're still going to tinker with things. If you're a fist first 15 guys, the office, a coordinator, a head coach, you're going to try to figure out exactly what that combination of plays looks like. Um, but for the most part, all the preparation is done because from the player perspective, after Friday's practice, you're not putting

in anything new. You might be adjusting things. You might be fine tuning some stuff that didn't look quite right on Friday, but Saturday morning, you're watching Friday's film. You're not getting a new install and you're doing a walkthrough of all the plays you've already done that you want to hit again. You want to see again. So that game plan is pretty much shut by about 3 p.m. on Friday.

Right. So yeah, coaches, they'll go on date night. They'll get to see their wife for the first time all week. Right. You know, they'll, they'll go to their kids' high school football game. They'll do all these other things. You can't just be locked in and doing it all the time. And in that tweet specifically, I said, you know, some coaches, they'll

start watching film for the next week, Saturday, you know, once it gets later in the day and they got nothing else to do Sunday, if it's a night game, you're just sitting there all day. You don't have to stare at your hundred play call sheet all day for 12 hours. There's nothing that's going to change. It's already printed. It's laminated. So you can turn the page and get a look. That doesn't mean that they're not going to coach as hard that Sunday night. So yeah, it's uh, people don't necessarily understand how the work week goes. Right. And if you're going to blame Ben Johnson for that, like I said, blame Kellyn Moore,

blame Spags for having interviews, blame Aaron Glenn for having interviews, blame everybody else for having interviews. But it's only a guy that lost when his side still did pretty good stuff. That's getting the heat for it. And that I just don't understand. Also as a bye week, they had a bye week, which would get, you know know like that's 14 days where they had nothing. I think it's going to be good for the rivalry. I think it's going to be great for Chicago versus Detroit. Like you're going to get some of that and so and then I think a fair thing to say for your Lions fan would be like well yeah you're also taking three of our coaches with you. So I think it's Antoine Randall L their O line coach and there's somebody else but no the

online coach not coming. Oh he's not. No it's not Farley. Frey Lee I think is's Antoine Randall. L their O line coach and there's somebody else. But no, the online coach is not coming. Oh, he's not. No, it's not Farley. Fraley. I think he's interviewing with Seahawks, but I don't think he's okay. Report that he's probably not going to Johnson actually was like, I don't want to raid their whole staff. Okay.

Yeah. So you're bringing a couple guys. So then the fan and you starts thinking, oh, were you having these conversations all week? Like looking at Zillow together and circling neighborhoods and being like, oh, is this where we're going? So you create like a whole fan fiction in your head. Yeah. But again, I think that this is good for the rivalry in the NFC North. I think that's awesome that there's going to be genuine animosity between those fan bases. Oh, for sure. And then he just kind of throws that jab at Matt LaFleur and I don't really

understand where that came from because I don't think they're like friends that work together. No, they're not. I thought they were friends. I thought that was like, can't wait to take on Matt, you know, Matt's up. No, I don't think they've ever worked together. Yeah. No, no. I mean, no one can focus on one thing all the time for like an entire work week. Like your mind has to wander at times. You're allowed to do other things in your life. Like no one has questioned his preparation until this specific week. Right. He's been the genius of the NFL the last three years who turned Jared Goff into a top quarterback who weaponizes his right tackle into this weapon that everyone loves. Dan Skipper, the sixth alignment, all the fun stuff they do. The trick plays galore,

and all of a sudden one single game in which his team underperforms and now he's not committed, it's dumb. When you say it out loud, it's dumb. So we're just not going to give that any more credence. Yeah. Well well thank you for joining us we appreciate it Mitch yeah you're very smart yeah I had one last question it's a row back question RH O B a C K dot-com promo code take 20% off your first purchase oh yeah you're wearing the row back right now you got to get the new Hezzy hoodie super comfortable row back dot-com promo code take 20% off your first purchase uh how's the golf game? Because I know you built, this is kind of weird that I, well, no, you

put it on Instagram, so that's not weird. I follow you on Instagram. You built a simulator in your house, which rocks. How is the golf game going? Golf game's good. It's been pretty frozen out here in Kansas City, so luckily I do have the simulator. I've been getting some lessons. I got burnt out on it as you know with with kids and stuff it's hard to do everything that you used to do the same and you know between having a baby and working on golf I was just kind of burnt out on the golf stuff so back around the last couple months been working on it hopefully it you know gets sunny gets warm I get to start playing outside and it's kind of my

outlet I mean as an offensive lineman you tend to just kind of hate yourself and feel bad at all times. So golf, you're never going to feel like you played well. So it's kind of the perfect outlet for offensive lineman to hit balls, feel like you suck, watch film, try to get better and go out there and just be miserable. I love that. I felt too good recently. I would like to feel shitty so I can know what I can improve on. I love that. It's a cool mindset. Yeah. Is it also like, this is a stupid question, but how sick is it like living in a city that you want to Superbowl? It is pretty cool. Um, you know, my, my Superbowl has since been surpassed by a couple of Superbowls and uh, you know,

there are some much more famous and important guys to the city, but it is cool. I mean, it keeps you grounded. That's why we love Kansas City. Like the people are great. You know, you still get noticed every now and again, but everyone's respectful. And just like, Hey, you know, thanks for what you do, blah, blah, blah. I love following you on social media, all that stuff. So it's pretty cool. You know, strokes the ego every now and again when you need it. And then I go downstairs, hit balls and start hitting myself again. Yeah. So it's smart move. That's what I, if you want to see,

if you want a Superbowl, just stay there. Yeah. Yeah. 100%.'s smart move. That's what I, if you want to, if you want to Super Bowl, just stay there. Yeah. Yeah. 100%. So when you went from Cleveland to Kansas City, were you a free agent at the time? I was. Yeah. Was there a moment where it was between like Kansas City and some other team and you look

back on them? You're like, thank God I chose the Chiefs. Yeah, it was between Kansas City and Tennessee or the last two that were in it. Definitely worked out to choose Kansas City. I mean, the Cleveland thing, we didn't have to go back through that. I mean, I'd wanted to stay in Cleveland. My wife's from Cleveland, I met her there.

Joe Thomas, Hall of Famer, Alex Mack, John Greco, Joel Pletonia, we had a great offensive line. I loved doing that every day. I wanted to stay. They were in the shed assets, get draft picks, suck and tank phase, so they weren't resounding anybody. Turned out to be the best thing for me. And yeah, I don't really look back on that too much. I just

appreciate the fact that I was able to come to Kansas City. And I didn't realize how important the Super Bowl was. I mean, to your point, if you're the Rams, if you're the Chargers, is it going to be as important to win a Super Bowl in that city and live there? Probably not. Living in a sports crazed city, the one that's so passionate about the team, I think is more important. You form a better bond to the city than some other places. So I think it just happened to be that perfect kind of mixture of finally getting our homegrown QB.

50 years since the last Super Bowl, the city loves football. So I just got really lucky and I feel really good about that. Yeah, choice. Pretty cool to be like, I blocked for Patrick Bahomes. Yeah. That will be something that you could say probably 50 years from now, and people are like, holy shit, that's awesome.

You kept him healthy. Yeah. While you were there. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's, I responsibly am the one to keep him healthy. You know, since I've, you know, gone and done done other things he seems to have a lot of those ankle injuries So I'm gonna take credit for that yeah bust yeah actually a bust since you left all right well Mitch

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the show. Hopefully this doesn't get age restricted again. But yes. Which, I mean, if we're going to have one taken down, having it be Stavi with a revolver, I think is a pretty good reason. Yeah. I'm willing to make that short term sacrifice. Yeah that got age restricted so that was why you had to log in to watch us on Wednesday show. But let's not, it wasn't Hank's, Hank was just existing. He was just existing.

You're just breathing like you normally breathe. Does he have a mic now? What? Why are you looking at me like this? I'm just wondering if he's going to let me fall on the sword or not. Are you going to turn on Hank's mic? I didn't show the gun, he knows I didn't show the gun. You can't say the G word

What? He's talking about Mondays. I feel like Hanks still not on. He's very low. He's very low Can't get your tongue. Hey memes is trying to silence Hank That's what they're doing. You can't exist. That's what I'm saying for the first time ever. I agree with you They're trying to stop you from existing. I got your back. No, but what Hank's looking at them, he's waiting for them to apologize for not taking Hank's breathing out. So now we have a stare down going on between Hank and the booth, the podcast, whatever. I took the breathing out. Okay. Hank of the podcast. I mean, I can't I his wife's my son on why is my son on there's a are this fucking thing sucks It breaks every time we

Keep all this in I've talked to I talked to Pete about it And then he just starts saying about it's too busy getting on more dogs Yeah, a bunch of words that I don't understand what they fucking mean. Yeah, we're not the smartest people. Oh, there it is I feel like I just heard Hank Pete's over here using three syllable words. Memes also just not talking into a mic either. Memes just keeps saying I got it, but he's not saying it into a mic. This is some good stuff. Number one sports podcast for a reason, folks. I fixed it. All right. There it is.

I fixed it. All right, Hank. Yeah. A lot just happened care to address no I mean I the the breathing thing like I was a little sick so I was breathing loud but also like if I'm talking for 5% of the episode I don't think you need to have my mic on the whole time that's that's not a huge nor there it's fair point Max cut it out of the podcast didn't get cut out of the video Max probably could have told the person who edits the video to cut it out of the video like he did but that's fun thanks not allowed to breathe.

That was so... Max would normally be very happy if you weren't breathing. Is it Max's fault or Pugs' fault? Or is it your fault because you're technically in charge of all of them? Well, yeah, that's where it's like, it all falls on me. No, it all falls on me. But you just said the podcast was fine and said nothing about the... Like, you didn't take anything.

I know, I know Hank We've already had this conversation Pugs do have very gonna have this conversation bugs do have very labored breathing processes. Yeah, it's true a little snout nose But yeah, that was that was a tough tough wake up Monday morning And I'm also crazy that it was like the there's Really loud breathing it wasn't mere max like that's huge huge yeah she was because like that's like a fart whenever there's a fart on the podcast like you know big cat or max that was big win for us hank was the one who's

breathing with his mouth way too hard no i just my nose was stuffy so when it like it sounded it was it was it was a vocal breathe. My fire fest, which I've gotten over in the past 24 hours, but in hindsight, it was just 2020. I should have vetoed the nine-dar day. And I didn't. And now I am going to deal with the consequences of my own action. And I feel bad for the booth because they're also going to have to deal with the consequences of my own action. And I feel bad for the booth because they're also gonna have to deal with it

because I'm just gonna be living at this office forever. So I've seen you tweeting about it a lot and- I also have people like, you're bitching, bitching, bitching. No, he hasn't. I tweeted, I threw darts, I'm in trouble. And that was it. Yeah, no, you haven't been bitching. I have something to say. as a as a community here

We got to stop freaking out when one person says that we're bitching about something and just we just got to do it I mean, who are you freaking out about? This fire I know well people people bitch and then everyone gets freaks out about it Let people bitch people are gonna bitch about everything yes, it. Let people bitch. People are going to bitch about everything. Yes. It doesn't matter. People are going to bitch. Hank, I do. I do remember it is funny that it all goes back to the dunk because you should have just taken marathon but it wasn't an option to take. That's the other thing. You had a veto. I had a veto but that doesn't mean I would have gotten marathon. Okay. That was the one reason

you said you didn't use yeah Yeah, I know it does all go back to the dog so wait didn't didn't you suggest putting the nine daughter in there No, that was fucking dumb So much we said so much shit like I knew exactly who he was talking about Tomas we're not even talking about the Eagles and we're and we're fired up for a long week birds listen all right all right Let's just reset Hank you are you're you've done some work in the last 24 hours You're gonna be here for a long time, but you've also it sounds like you made peace with the fact that you're just gonna have to do it Yeah, so my I feel and it's it's

Eventually you're gonna be close enough that you'll just be able to put it in. Yeah, and I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna go through it all. I just am concerned that at a certain point, my arm is gonna get like to a point where I can't throw and then I don't know what I'm gonna do on stream. Right. And then people are gonna make throw darts but I'm gonna be like like you know have you thought about getting getting a blowgun and then shooting darts Oh Good idea. No, that's that's a good idea. Yeah, that's a really good idea. You gotta get a blowgun That's a good idea um Yeah, I mean it's gonna suck

I I didn't like that professional darter who quote treated you and was like I've been playing darts my whole life And I've only done this twice that that felt you didn't need to say that dude. He was definitely talking about a full nine darter. Yeah, I know but still well No, that's where it's a hundred eighties also extremely. I've gotten a lot of people that are like I played darts every week I've played darts every week for 20 years. I've gotten 180 like twice. Yeah, and these are people that are you know? Significantly better darts blow dart is a really good idea blow gun. Maybe does is there like a dart gun? Yeah, like the blow dart gun is one thing but like a nerf style trigger or would that get taken down from YouTube? I Don't know not if Stav is not holding it When Stav holds a gun you think it's gonna be used

Yeah, you I think you need to get a bullet blow I think you need to figure out a blow dart Okay, cuz that would be a good cuz that would be still very difficult and it adds probably a couple feet closer And we know that you've got some really good lungs with breathing through your mouth Monday show You got this the marathon though that was that's a Just cuz you thought you were gonna dunk and then you didn't dunk. It's funny to also think that the marathon would have been the much easier choice. It would have. Because he could have, he got a jog, lightly jogged, it walked a little bit. It would have taken like seven hours at worst. Yeah.

Yeah, no, that was again, hindsight's 20-20. I'm dumb as fuck. And this is just, you know, added to the long list of examples of me being an idiot It'll be good content though. I'll stop for a little bit. Yeah You love buddies. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my go Oh Yeah, get just get that going but yeah we'll be live until the game start on Sunday and then back again Monday if

Back again, not done. Okay, I will be staying at the office Pft my fire fest of the week happened last night I accidentally went live on the part of my take twitch for about a half hour by mistake. Okay. So I was trying to record myself flying from Washington DC from Dulles Airport in Northern Virginia up to Washington or up to Philadelphia to do a flyby for the Eagles commanders game at Lincoln Financial Field. I download Microsoft flight simulator. I hopped in my F-18. I buzzed the tower of the commander's facility, flew all the way up, which is, by the way,

a pretty boring game to play. I think you just, like, you get up to altitude and then you just kind of cruise there for a while. Yep. So I was just trying to do a flyby. As opposed to other flight simulators? Yeah, combat simulators. When he's dogfighting.

Yeah, when you're dogfighting. That's when it rocks. But this is just, you fly up in the air, and the object is to not inflict violence on people So, uh, so I'm flying up to Philadelphia I think I'm recording it on OBS on my computer which is the program that we use to stream on twitch and Instead of clicking the button that says start recording. I accidentally clicked the button that says start streaming

Ah, and I had no sound no volume for real says start streaming. Ah. And I had no sound, no volume for real. So I was in turn kind of fucking with the chat because they were all like no sound, no volume. But I didn't know I was streaming. I do this for about 25 minutes, and then I quit because I crashed twice.

And then I go back to OBS, and I'm like, oh shit. It says stop streaming, not stop recording. So I click stop recording, and I immediately call Hank. I'm like, hey, Hank, my bad, can you delete this from our Twitch account? And then, but before Hank did that, I went back and I watched it and I just saw all the comments coming in

that were just like no sound, but for real, like honestly, no sound. So they didn't know if I was fucking with them or what was going on. But yeah, it was just a complete mistake that I made by clicking that button, which is right next to the start recording button Mm-hmm, but I think it's pretty like it was pretty electric stream I did an inverted flyby through Lincoln Financial Field like about 20 feet above the the bleachers and

Big crash I crashed not not into Lincoln Financial Field Which credit to me? I thought I was just playing on my own I couldn't just steered that motherfucker right into the stands and then I would've been caught in 4k. But no, I crashed like maybe two seconds after I got right past Lincoln Financial. So in the lot. Yeah. Yeah. I credit. Well, how many Eagles fans did you kill? It was people that live within a quarter mile of the stadium. So I think probably seven or eight. Probably my brother. Yeah, I killed Max's brother on stream last night But yeah, that was I I just didn't know what was going on when I was like Oh shit have I been streaming this entire time? So my bad if you tuned into the part of my take twitch last night and get a push Notification scary phone call to get cuz you don't know when you're like I was actually streaming on the part of my take twitch It's like oh streaming what yeah, I'm Shannon sharp

Except when Shannon sharps thing goes off. He's not doing a flight simulator at 9pm on a weekday night. Your life is cool, too. Yeah, it is. But it was fun. It was fun being able to do like a super low out. Dude, Microsoft Flight Simulator, not that fun of a game in terms of actually flying everywhere. But they've got like, uh, real 3D representation of the earth. Yeah. So they had everything. You could see like the, I could see Xfinity live, almost drove into that.

So Max, you know that even when I think no one's watching, I'm not crashing planes into your stadium. Yeah, you just didn't do a successful flyover. Oh, I did two successful flyovers and then I crashed. So two out of three. Yeah. Yeah. You think it's bad vibes. I mean, it's not a great omen Probably not I think especially when you weren't trying to show people this you were trying to do this in secret Yeah, I was trying to be well. Yeah, well, I would not have shown the crashes if you weren't streaming

Oh, yeah, I never crashed on stream when I'm flying in the simulator well not over the I mean flyover Yeah, at least I didn't get shot down. That's true. No been way worse. Max's brother shot you down. Yeah Alright, my fire fest is so I I think I said this that's why I miss the commander's lines game My wife was out of town So I was I was solo dadding for the majority of the weekend and then Monday as well And it's essentially like the best way to describe it is being a backup quarterback and you get in for a drive or two and you're like, all right, I can do this. I can do this. And then if you have to stay in for longer than that, everyone's like, oh shit, Mike White might not be the guy, that kind of thing. But I thought I did

an okay job. I missed giving Stella her medicine like maybe two days in a row that I doubled up so we're fine, but I Likened it to the office episode when Dwight gets fired and all the plants die. Mm-hmm. So I did okay We we you know, it was a lot of like I'd tell my oldest like hey I need your help a lot of pep talks a lot of a lot of eating cereal for dinner all that shit Then my wife did come home and it turns out I do have plants in my house and I didn't water any of them I had no idea. Yeah, I had if you had asked me if I had plants out of been like no fucking way That's a detail. I've never paid attention to they have these plants now that have these basins at the top that are like the thing That you leave for your cat. Yeah, go out of town where it like meters out

You fill up the top basin and then it just slowly I need that leases. Yeah, they're awesome. Yeah, the plants never die. So it was just Yeah, it was I would say I I probably didn't win the game but I I didn't look like I was I don't know what quarterback like I wasn't Tim Boyle. Yeah, but if you were to pick one thing in your house to forget to give water to I think the plants are probably the one that you also forgot about the Stella medicine so still a matter the water I also my I was over three on dressing my daughter every single time I dress her and she'd be like I don't like this and then she just go dress herself it's like all right that's fine yeah where would you want

to wear yeah yeah she's like I put her in I put her the one that hurt was I put her in a badger shirt and she goes, this isn't beautiful. And then she went on a dress and I was like, damn it. Was Bucky on it? Bucky was on it. Damn. So didn't, but we're back. We're back.

Yeah. It's a, it's a, I'm not a starter. I'm a backup. Yeah, but I'm a backup. For those scripted plays, you look pretty good. Yeah, right. Like for a couple of drives, I can do it for a night here, night there, but you know, but when it's when it's an extended, uh, this was like me having to, the starter went

out for, for three weeks of the season and I had to, we didn't, we didn't go 500. It is true. Cause if it was like for one meal, then that then all the fans would be like, he should get more minutes. Yeah. He made an incredible mac and cheese. You might be the guy that I make an incredible mac and cheese on the third day that we had mac and cheese Did you know when we had bagel bites for lunch and dinner where people like hey? Can this guy only throw right yeah, probably mm-hmm we survived um Okay, uh numbers

three Eleven nine what number do I want? five Here come the boys here come the boys was it all going low today I Went three I'll go 31 31 shout out Aaron Glenn okay Pug 99 Pug by the way, can you hear me? Pug max threw you under the bus about the mouth breathing thing the book what max

you to me under the bus that's not true that i mean well hey okay why do i was a thrown in there Hank is just what I'm bird gang I see that is bullshit All right. All right, pug. What's your number? 99 birds pug pug go shake Shane Jack 45 we give give Jack the headphones now Jack Jack Jack texts me cuz he had to do a video this morning, and he started

to text, good morning big cat. That was weird, right? No. That's a weird start to a text. It was morning. It was too formal. We have a real problem with Jack on the text thread, because it happened one time before, and ever since then, every single time he hits us up with a favor. I think it's Jack McCarthy

Yeah, I do every time and I want I don't want I want your favors. I don't want to do Jack McCarthy's that's probably on my end I need to change your name to like Jack good. Yeah, the good one, but good wrong with good morning on a text. Yeah. No, no, I guess too formal Don't I don't need a good morning. He just started it's it's that's I Won't I won't send good morning. All right, I appreciate it Let's just get right to the chase cuz I know you got a job to do. I got a job to do It wasn't a good morning either. I Work with five in the morning. I've been awake for fucking ten hours. Okay. What's your number Jack?

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