Pardon My Take - Championship Sunday, Lions All Time Loss And The Ravens No Show Sets Up Chiefs/Niners Part 2, Plus Who's Back Of The Week

Episode Date: January 29, 2024

hampionship Sunday. We start with Fastest 2 Minutes then recap both games from Sunday (00:00:00-00:06:10) Chiefs 17, Ravens 10 (00:06:10-00:44:35) Niners 34, Lions 31 (00:44:35-01:11:25) We then ta...lk some coaching moves and basketball in who's back of the week. (01:11:25-01:38:01)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, ad-free, on Amazon Music. On today's pardon my take, Super Bowl 58. Super Bowl 58 is set. It is 58, right? I'm not good with Roman numerals. I hate Roman numerals, but Super Bowl 58 is set.
Starting point is 00:00:24 Chiefs, Niners, rematch from a few years ago We're gonna talk about both the AFC championship game the NFC championship game Brutal brutal loss for the Lions brutal loss for the Ravens too But a different way so we're gonna get into that we're do fastest two minutes We're gonna maybe talk a little basketball. We got who's back of the week. Some coach. We get more, we have more coach talk to go because PFT you're about to hire yours and Bill Belichick might be out of a job. So we'll clean up on that and maybe some early thoughts on Super Bowl 58 and before we get to all of that. Game time, you shouldn't have to
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Starting point is 00:03:19 Today is Monday, January 29th. And it's championship Sunday. WAP WAP championship Sunday. Some spread. Sunday Sunday Sunday. Hey hey hey. Eh nah gonna get em. Take a kick a kick a kick.
Starting point is 00:03:38 In Baltimore where the Ravens offense looked like it was ready for a bad Valentine's Day instead of Super Bowl Sunday because all they could get was likely flowers. I say, I say, I say, I say, Pacheco made the Ravens look like big chickens scampering to a second quarter score and the Ravens, much like Forrest Gump, abandoned the run and said, I think I'll go home now. I can't even do Forrest Gump. I think I'll go home now. I think I'll go home now.
Starting point is 00:04:04 I think I'll go home now. I think I'll go home now. I think I'll go home now. Me and't even do force come I think I'll go home. I think I'll go home now I think I think I'll go home now me and Jenny was like Pays a carrot in a remarkable rookie season Taylor Swift will be going to her First Super Bowl and it will be a hot topic who will be inside her box for the big game Speaking of Taylor's box the Ravens watch their season tick-tock away as Jackson Mahomes hit his dance on the city of Baltimore Chief 17 Ravens 14. Out West, Brock Purdy woman made a couple big mistakes. Huge. In the first half before getting the Niners offense into Richard Gere. Speaking of into Richard Gere, they ran through the A gap like a couple of hamsters.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Colin scoring two touchdowns but the Lions up early. Josh Burt Reynolds found the center fold of the defense but couldn't make a play girl. A Christian escaped the Lions den and found the end zone for the game winning score and Lieutenant Dan Campbell needs new legs, magic legs, because he bit off his own kneecaps. Niners 34, the Lions 31. And that is your Super Bowl. I just remembered the Niders, that was, and that's the same team where I saw the play.
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Starting point is 00:06:31 We're running it back. We're running it back. Last time this happened, this was our last four weeks of fun. Yes. So RIP to the NCAA tournament in 2024. Oh my God, don't say that. There will be no spring league football. New strain, new strain of COVID. I have just high level before we get into the games. I've seen some people complain that like,
Starting point is 00:06:50 well, this matchup stinks because we've seen it, whether it be Taylor Swift, the Chiefs, fatigue. I don't care. There's nothing that would ever stop me from enjoying the Super Bowl to its maximum, you know, like it's the last game of football of the year. Yeah, I can't believe there's actually people like, I'm not going to watch, shut up, you're going to watch, you're going to watch, you're going to like it. I almost stopped watching today because they canceled the B2 flyover in Baltimore because of weather and then they cut away from the flyover on the West Coast game, which is the least American thing you could do.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Got to get you to stop. Most unpatriotic thing. Well, they tried. They didn't try hard enough, but it's, you're going to watch Super Bowl because it's two great teams. It's Patrick Mahomes Continuing is his quest to topple Tom Brady, which might take a while. I've actually got some stats here I'd like to see what Hank has to say about these. Oh, we're gonna get right into it. Yeah Yeah, I think that we should I mean Patrick Mahomes was great. We can talk about the other stuff
Starting point is 00:07:41 Yeah, Chief 17 Ravens 10 the AFC championship game. Yeah, let's hop right into it. All right, so here's some stats for the first six years of the two of them starting in the NFL. Mahomes 72 and 22. Tom Brady 70 and 24. Playoff records Mahomes 14 and three. Tom Brady 12 and two. Four AFC titles for Mahomes three for Brady, two rings for Mahomes playing for a Brady, two rings for Mahomes, playing for a third, Brady had three rings and touchdown to Interception 258 to 69 for Mahomes,
Starting point is 00:08:12 167 to 87 for Tom Brady. Yeah, I mean, it's tough to deny. If he wins a Super Bowl, he's on pace. Yeah, I'd say ahead of pace. Yeah, that's an inevitable. And this game was, it was crazy because the beginning of the game, it was like, well, this is gonna be just Patrick Mahomes
Starting point is 00:08:35 surgically dicing up the Ravens defense. That first drive was perfect. That second drive was peak Mahomes because they had four third down conversions that were all Mahomes, especially he had a scramble. And then that that flip played at Travis Kelsey, which was like, how the hell did this just happen? There's vintage as backyard stuff. It was it was crazy.
Starting point is 00:08:55 So, so, so the game starts here like, well, this is just going to be Mahomes day. Then the Ravens event showed up and they played great ball for basically this, like, you know, after they scored after the chiefs went up 14 seven, uh, early in the second quarter for the rest of the game, the entire second half, the chiefs had a 98 yards, but it didn't matter because it was way more about the chief's defense and what Steve Spagnola did to Lamar Jackson. And I do want to say real quick, Steve Spagnola, he is probably one of, if not the best defensive
Starting point is 00:09:29 coordinators of all time. When you think about what he's done, he's got three Super Bowls. He stopped the 17 and 0, or 18 and 0 Patriots, one of the best offenses of all time. Held them to how many points? How many did they have? 17.
Starting point is 00:09:43 17. They had, the Ravens were one of the best teams this year in terms of offense like completely befuddled the MVP of the league they had before after the game I don't know if you guys saw but the shirts the inspags we trust shirts yeah those are awesome and you can tell like every single guy on that defense just trust everything that Steve Spagnola is doing and He said before the game be relentless be a pack of wolves just get after it and that's what they did Like it was see spagano just eight Todd Munkin and John Harbaugh's lunch for four quarters
Starting point is 00:10:17 That's what we watched and again It's Patrick Holmes early and then it was the chiefs defense for the basically for the majority of the game just completely like making the Ravens look stupid and getting them out of what they do well and he deserves all the credit in the world because he that was a masterful game plan they had. So I should say that the score that Super Bowl was actually 17 to 14 so they won with 17 points. They won with seven. Just like the Chiefs did. This is from Ranny Giesliari. By DVOA, we already knew that 2023 Ravens were incredible, right? The 2007 Patriots were one of the other greatest teams ever by that stat. And Spags both won big games against
Starting point is 00:10:59 those teams by scoring 17 points. He was the MVP of this game. And that's not taking anything away from the Chiefs offense. And again, like that Mah game and that's not taking anything away from the chief's offense and again like that Mahomes that second drive the first drive was scripted plays that that worked perfectly and we thought oh there's gonna be a long long day for the Ravens defense and like I said the Ravens defense showed up they even forced a field goal off of a or Lamar fumbled that was when I thought the game was like fully, fully over. But they did a good job of stopping the Chiefs for the majority of the game. It was just the Chiefs defense was just incredible.
Starting point is 00:11:32 Yeah, so shout out to Spagnolo. Did you know that he does an award, a weekly award for his defense? It's called the Kram Award, whichever team crams the hardest. I love that. Like for hardest hitting, big plays, they get the Kram Award and the winner of the cram award
Starting point is 00:11:45 Gets a home cooked meal from Steve's bagnola's wife. Oh makes you whatever you want So you have to scram before the game you crammed before the game and then you cram after the game Okay, cuz the Jerry's needs to get the cram award for the for the for punching out say flowers No, you crammed during the during the game you crammed during the game So he crammed the ball right out of say flowers. It was a cram pie the play of the game Yeah, play the game when you fumble during the game. Got it. So he crammed the ball right out of, say, flowers. It was a cramp. The play of the game. Yeah. That was the play of the game. When you fumble at the one yard line, that's, it's so deflating because you've done all that work. You've gone that entire distance and then just to have it happen. That's why Bill told you, don't reach out the one. Yeah, don't reach out at the one. So it was, yeah, it was a Chief's like this is, and Hank, I think you've
Starting point is 00:12:21 actually kind of admitted it now that Mahomes and the Chiefs are the new Patriots and just how they do it. Like this wasn't an explosion of offense by the Chiefs. It wasn't like they were just, I mean, they were better than the Ravens, the right team won. But it was like they have shape shifted year to year and especially even in this year, where it looked like they were like had no chance
Starting point is 00:12:44 of going to the Super Bowl to a team that is the toughest team in the league. Yeah and on the road too they beat they beat Buffalo at Buffalo they beat the Ravens at Baltimore that obviously adds to the narrative that before was like you can only win at home this playoffs he's done it on the road. They've won 66% of the road playoff games that have been won this playoffs the Packers the only other team that won a road playoff game. That's crazy. One, two, the Packers won one. It's pretty crazy.
Starting point is 00:13:09 And the defense was the story, but we're still gonna just talk about Mahomes because it's fucking Patrick Mahomes. No, I mean that drive. He was really good. Also, I mean, there should be some blame on Todd Munkin in that offense. Well, Lamar, we gotta get to Lamar.
Starting point is 00:13:20 It was bad. The defense for the Chiefs over the course of the season, I think they were tied for 27th in terms of yards per carry allowed. And then, do you know how many times the Ravens ran the ball today? Yeah, eight. They ran the ball to the running backs eight times.
Starting point is 00:13:35 Lamar had a couple others, but they ran the ball with the running backs eight times today. They just, it was crazy to watch. It felt like they had a game plan and then the first three in out happened and they're like, well, we'll just abandon all of this. And Lamar was not good. That is a fact.
Starting point is 00:13:50 Like Lamar did not play well. He was missing receivers early. That interception to likely was one of the worst situational awareness balls I've ever seen thrown because you not only have Isaiah likely triple teamed but you're in a situation where you're down 10 in the fourth quarter. It's like you need to no matter what get a field goal here so that you make it a one score game with Justin Tucker. That's a pretty certain thing that when you're in that like whether they had the 30 or 20 and having that
Starting point is 00:14:20 happen was just like how do you have that happen? How do you throw that ball? Their offense was just, Zay Flowers is down there somewhere for the most of the game. They threw it to likely a couple of times. And with Zay, when I say they ran the ball eight times, two of those were like little swing passes. Yeah. With Zay Flowers or gadget plays with Zay Flowers. So they really only ran the ball with the running back six times.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Right. Over the course of the entire game. And it was, yeah, Todd Monkin deserves a ton of blame but I Lamar did it was not he was not like precise he had guys he missed guys routinely all day which is deep passes he overthrew and he was taken forever in the pocket to like Lamar should run with a ball like a full half second or full second before when he was taking off today because you wait that extra time then he gets caught from behind for like a
Starting point is 00:15:05 One-yard game. Yeah, it completely neutralized Lamar's ability Although he did have an awesome play where he threw and caught the ball at the time Maybe Bill Polin was right about that all time. Maybe he's a wide receiver. Yes, but yeah It was an all-time play and he got caught from behind just barely I think he probably would score a touchdown if you just stepped out of that one tackle, but that was awesome play Yeah, it was the game if you're a Ravens fan that game had to have been like torture because it was constantly the Ravens like after it settled down and it was 14-7 and It was like okay the Ravens defense is starting to make some stops
Starting point is 00:15:39 They got they sacked Patrick Holmes for the first time in these playoffs, which is crazy that he had gone two full games without being sacked They started make some stops and then you have the Zay flowers big play Taunting penalty, which we both agree taunting should not be a penalty in the NFL. They're pros if you want to do it in the college That's fine because you want to just pretend like oh, yeah, they're amateur athletics, whatever The guys are putting their life on the line. They're playing a passionate game. This is the biggest game in their lives. You should be able to taunt. You should be allowed to taunt. There are a couple of, I think at the point that it turns into a delay of game, probably flag it for delay a game. If it's that excessive, if it's just a taunt, you can do whatever you want. But if you step
Starting point is 00:16:22 over the guy, if you step over him, he's allowed to hit you in your nuts. Yeah. Besides that it's all fair. I just it's like a passionate game these guys are playing a million miles an hour they're they're you know bodily harm and all these things and and and you're you're gonna get upset you're gonna throw a flag because he stood over him. Fuck that let him taunt. It's the AFC championship game. Yeah Joe Burrow agreed he tweeted let the boys taunt. Yeah let him taunt. Yeah, let him taunt Taunting's fun And if you want to stop them from taunting then stop them from catching the ball 50 yards Someone pointed out that if you let them taunt you got to let them fight. I kind of okay with that too
Starting point is 00:16:53 Yeah, there's a little scrap. Yeah hockey does it. Yeah, but they did have like the Ravens just kept on it was self-inflicted wound after self-inflicted wound where it was like even in the the end of the first half when Kyle van Neuhe gets that penalty Travis Kelsey was doing a masterful job of the first half when Kyle Vinoy gets that penalty, Travis Kelsey was doing a masterful job of just goading them the entire day. And then you have the Zay Flowers taunt and the Zay Flowers fumble. And it's like they keep getting close
Starting point is 00:17:15 and they can't cut the deficit. And then the likely interception, it just was torture. It was torture for the Ravens because they had these moments where you thought that they were gonna be back in the game And they just kept on falling short in these big moments And it's all credit to the Chiefs defense in their game plan. Yeah, Mike florist his head is spinning. He's so happy right now Yeah, Mike florist was right. We owe an apology. I have a question for you big cat Yeah, it seems like Jason Kelsey brother of Travis Kelsey. Yeah brothers. Don't know if you knew that
Starting point is 00:17:44 It seems like he's the biggest chief fan in the world right now He is wearing chiefs gear head to toe loves the chiefs rooting for Travis Would it irritate you if you were an Eagles fan? Seeing Jason Kelsey roots so hard for the chiefs. I don't think so. You don't think so. No if you were an eagle I actually don't I think brother like being brothers kind of trumps everything. He's No, I actually don't. I think brother, like being brothers kind of trumps everything. He's, some are saying, I saw a couple of tweets that he's a bigger chiefs fan than Max's and Eagles fan.
Starting point is 00:18:10 It would not bother me. It would not bother me. Brotherly love. Yeah, I think that's one of those things that if you're trying to find an issue with that, you need to touch grass, as the kids say. I'm just saying. Go find another hobby.
Starting point is 00:18:22 Interesting. Yeah, that would, I just, I'm being dead honest, like you got a roof for your brother. Like you have to in that moment. So I mean, he has been at the games. They had a big hug after the game. Travis Kelsey, by the way, should, I don't know, we should like put out an investigation
Starting point is 00:18:37 against him because he looked so washed for the second half of the season and now he looks incredible again. What happened? Was he just rope-adoping us? He was playing us. He was. I think he was playing the long game on it. I think the Chiefs, the Chiefs as a whole might have been rope-adoping us the entire season. Well, trying to get the people to say, oh, the Chiefs can't do it this year, this team sucks, and then they have all the
Starting point is 00:18:58 Bolton board material they could ever want. Maybe the entire Chiefs, maybe Kaderis Tony, was actually the best signing of the off season. Yes. To tank a few games, make them lose in very embarrassing fashion. And now all of a sudden everybody doesn't take Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs offense seriously at all. Kaderious Tony with an all time
Starting point is 00:19:16 idiot move of going on Instagram live being like, I'm not hurt, they're just, they're keeping me out of the games. Like dude, we all knew that. The Chiefs were basically being nice to you, that you're hurt so you can save some face Maybe go to another team next year. They're not playing you because you're detriment to the team Mm-hmm. He was the last person to realize that was good. What was going on? Maybe I don't think they can say that you're sitting out the game if you're injured if you don't have an injury
Starting point is 00:19:41 Yeah, but I also think that they're being nice. They said in the report, right? It was like for injury and also personal reason. The personal reason being like, you're not very good at football. Yeah, so I have something else I wanna say about Patrick Mahomes that was, they'll probably be like, you're glazing him so hard. Patrick Mahomes deserves a ton of credit
Starting point is 00:20:01 for how he's handled this season in moments that he's handled this season in moments that we've he's been criticized publicly whether it be complaining about the refs after the Packers game complaining about the refs after the Bills game he deserves a ton of credit because what Patrick Holmes never did this entire season is give any type of complaint publicly about his wide receivers and it's paying off now because he basically he stood in front of the bullets for these guys to suck for the majority of the year and get their feet wet and get a Rishi rice to a point where he's like
Starting point is 00:20:38 an actually really good receiver that you can trust and I feel like that's an underrated part of his leadership where he was complaining about everything else but deliberately never saying like my receivers just suck who would have blamed him if he had said that after all the like they went through this regular season and I think that's a key piece of the chiefs in these playoffs and being able to play like they're about to win another Super Bowl in his ability to keep these guys together and these like young guys their confidence doesn't get shattered Because the best player in the world is like yeah, you guys suck I liked Andy Reed's play call at the end of the game too when he was like it was the ultimate
Starting point is 00:21:13 They'll never see this coming. Yeah, MVA they hit MVS way down the field on that play like nobody thought That's the guy they're gonna go to with that much time like with that important of a play right happening at that moment It's like no they're going to throw it probably to rice or to Kelsey or they're going to try to give the ball to Pacheco somehow but no they went to the guy that probably hadn't there were a lot of times this season where my home's you're right could have just like destroyed the ego. Yes guys and maybe he did behind the scenes I don't
Starting point is 00:21:39 know but doubt it but definitely but definitely not in the press when he didn't even look like he was thinking that way. Yeah, he just would blame the we all we all Criticize him because he looked like a baby sometimes complaining about the refs and all this stuff It's like I'm thinking back to him like that was probably a little bit deliberate where it's like He's gonna find anything but his receivers to blame. Mm-hmm. So yeah, and MVS is a perfect example like MVS gets a lot of shit He's he obviously has problems catching the ball, which is his job.
Starting point is 00:22:07 MBS also gets asked to catch a lot of the difficult catches because he's so fast. Over the shoulder once in. Right, right. So there's a little bit of like, he's not catching, you know, five yard slants where it's easier to catch. But yeah, that's a guy who his confidence could have waned.
Starting point is 00:22:23 And then in the big moment, Patrick Mahomes trusts to throw him a perfect ball to seal the game and go back to the Super Bowl. Yeah, if you're Ravens fan, you're probably pretty upset because it seemed like this was the healthiest that the Ravens could possibly be. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Over the last like three seasons, I think today was probably the Ravens at their healthiest that they've been, maybe like week one of the 2021 season. And Kyle Hamilton was awesome. He was so good. So, so good. Zay Flowers was awesome. Obviously he fumbled, but he was their offense
Starting point is 00:22:54 for a while there. And then he cut his hand on the bench. Yeah, in frustration. And I don't know, like Lamar, obviously the easy hot take thing to say is like Lamar can't, you know, he choked again in the playoffs and it does suck because that is what we've that's all we've seen we have not seen him step his game up and get to that next level this was the moment to get to the next level and he did not it was just weird watching the Ravens especially in the first half it felt like they came out being like we're going to win no matter what And they got punched in the mouth and then they were just chasing it
Starting point is 00:23:25 for the rest of the game. Lamar has these games in the playoffs though. Like this was not the same Lamar that we've seen for the entire season where he has the lowest offensive output, the lowest number of points scored. We're just like turns into different player that happens once every playoffs with him.
Starting point is 00:23:39 It sucks. It sucks. It sucks if you're Raven's fan. Sucks if you're a player on the Ravens. Sucks if you're Lamar too because now now the narrative is fully there did not did and I mentioned this to you in private but I would like to make it in public was and everyone could chime in here was watching this game. Obviously these two guys my homes in Lamar Lamar is about to the MVP again. Like he's an incredible quarterback I'm not gonna diminish that But was it just watching the Justin Fields vs. Caleb Williams debate play out in real time? Like one guy can make all the passes one guy can put he's a he's a good passer
Starting point is 00:24:16 But when the things get tight Windows get tight moments get tight the passes aren't exactly precise like they have been maybe earlier in the season. Yeah, I can see where you're coming out with that. The first half from the Holmes was just electrifying. Yeah. The ball wasn't touching the ground. I think what he completed. 10 for 10. His first 10 were completion. He was out of control. And then I think the 11th one might have been a drop.
Starting point is 00:24:38 Yeah. So yeah, he was very, very good. I don't, I think that Justin is different from Lamar though. No, I know Lamar is way better. I'm saying that.'m not there's no debate. I'm just saying like when the when the big moments happen you have to have a guy who you trust passing the ball. Yeah. And Lamar I thought I trust passing the ball but there was moments today where I was like that likely interception was so bad again that he was missing some short throws early and you could call if you want to say the play calling was so bad that he was never had a chance I actually will buy it because it was so baffling to watch what the Ravens were doing offensively but yeah
Starting point is 00:25:13 I just it it will it will follow him because this is another moment where it's like we need Lamar to make these big time throws and they just weren't there and the deep balls to the deep balls were prompt right so the deep balls to he had a couple to Odell. There was a very funny one where Odell put his hand up like Randy Moss when he got two steps on the cornerback. And then the second the hand went up, he slowed down so much that the cornerback was just all over him. Ball was still overthrown by like three, four yards through a couple of those to Beckham. And then there were
Starting point is 00:25:40 a couple deep ones. I want to say that there were to Aglar maybe. Yeah, we're overthrown that same way. But yeah, when he's just, if he gets a good pocket and everything's on time, he's a great passer. If he has to move around a little bit and he's trying to decide whether or not he's gonna take off and run, or whether or not he's gonna stay in the pocket and throw,
Starting point is 00:25:59 that's when he doesn't have that exact touch that you want. Right. And maybe it's maturity that I'm trying to find a way to not like just knee jerk winners and losers. That guy stinks, that guy's good. Cause I still think Lamar's a great, great, he's a franchise quarterback. He's top five quarterback,
Starting point is 00:26:15 but this was a disappointing game. No other way you can look at it. Yeah. Speaking of which, I just wanted to throw, no, you know what, I'll do that at the end of the show. I'll do, I have a stat at the end of the show I'll do so that we'll just know what, I'll do that at the end of the show. I'll do, I have a stat at the end of the show I'll do so that we'll just keep it, we'll keep it to the end of the show. At the very end of the show.
Starting point is 00:26:30 In terms of the chiefs and going back to the Super Bowl, I know people are very tired of the chiefs. This is what, this is the next step in greatness that the whole country starts to hate you. They had that, I think memes, did memes post it? The AFC championship game from 2019, where it was like, who's rooting for the chiefs and who's rooting for the Patriots?
Starting point is 00:26:53 And it was just New England rooting for the Patriots and the entire country rooting for the chiefs. And then it was this year, who's rooting for the Ravens? Who's rooting for the chiefs? It was just Kansas City and Missouri rooting for the chiefs and the entire country rooting for the Raven. Was that one of those maps? Was that a Jeff T low map? It might feel right. Like everyone was rooting against the chiefs. That's the next step in greatness where the whole world happened to the Warriors. Like it's just this is what this is what you get when
Starting point is 00:27:16 you're this great all the time. The 31 other teams do not want you to succeed anymore. Yeah, this is it's them against the world quite literally. Yeah. I do agree with that. The chiefs like say what you want about them, but I think they're they're more fun than most dynasties like this because it's hard to watch and Steph Curry is the same way. I would equate them to being like you can watch those two teams play and be like holy shit it's amazing I love watching what this guy does. Yeah. There's some dynasties where you watch players and you're like I'm just sick of this shit yeah I'm completely over it but my homes is good for like one or two plays a game that you'll never see yeah and you have to like appreciate that
Starting point is 00:27:54 greatness as it's happening so I think people can like be like and I'm sick of the Chiefs but also holy shit this is fun yeah thank you I mean you see it I don't agree with that. Yeah. I root against them as hard as I can. Not fun to watch. I mean, Mahomes was great. He played great. With that being said, they didn't play great in the second half. Lamar Jackson was just nowhere to be found. Yeah. I mean, that's kind of how the Chiefs have been though this year,
Starting point is 00:28:21 where they're, I mean, it's, I think the stat stat is something crazy like 16 and 2 to the second half under like they just their offense kind of goes into whatever needs to be done not anymore and their defense starts to shut teams down like Chris Jones even Nate Tyson who does a great job he does a podcast with Robert Mays that he had a stat where Chris Jones not that he's like taking plays off, but his stats, first half to second half are like insanely different because he's just kind of feeling out the game.
Starting point is 00:28:53 And then in the second half, he's like, I'm gonna be the closer. I'm gonna shut everyone down. That's the Vince Young. First half chill out, second half go the fuck off. Yeah, so like there is something about how the chiefs have, that's kind of how their season is gone where like when they when they win games It's like punch them in the mouth get up big and then not hold on but like
Starting point is 00:29:12 The game slows they they slow down the game, you know, and and their defense shows up It sucks to watch because they just suffocate you is it is it good for Tom Brady fans such as a self-hed that all this greatness from Mahomes is shining a greater light on how good Tom Brady was? Oh, it's good point. Yeah, I mean, they keep showing this. I wouldn't have read those amazing stats from Tom Brady if Patrick Mahomes wasn't doing this back to back. Brady was two against two and oh against him in the playoff career, which is you
Starting point is 00:29:38 can always hang your head on that. But it feels like the the magic has has worn out. The Chiefs are going to blow past the four Niners in the Super Bowl. Ooh. Early prediction. Yeah. They just find a way. They find a way. And they have completely changed.
Starting point is 00:29:54 Like think about the Chiefs winning their Super Bowl the last time they played the Niners. That defense wasn't great and that offense was explosive. Now their offense can still be explosive at times because it's Mahomes, but their defense is like carrying up huge low They were down going in the fourth right against those Niners teams the yeah Garapolo overthrow in the fourth quarter. Yeah, and they're pretty much winning by 11. Yeah. Yeah, and the 49ers It feels like they should have lost both of their playoff games The Chiefs went into Buffalo Pete Buffalo went into Baltimore Pete Baltimore. Yeah, it wasn't pretty But it was like yeah, they in, in two tough places to play
Starting point is 00:30:28 and beat teams. They were underdogs in both games. And that's just Patrick Mahomes as an underdog. He's an underdog again in the Super Bowl. It's fucking insane. I'm going to do a game of the year on the Chiefs. San Francisco was up 20 to 10 with just more than six minutes left and Super Roll out. Yeah. That was their 21 points. Yeah, their defense wasn't great and Patrick Mahomes offense and Tyree Kale and all that. But it this also goes back. I mean, again, we've we've said it a million times with the Tyree Kale not signing him to a long term deal. Turns out to be genius because they have remade their defense. They're like Lageria Snead is one of
Starting point is 00:31:02 the best cornerbacks in the league. Like they they're young everywhere and that's just incredible roster management like the Patriots used to do where they were just they'd have to just have a whole new roster of guys around Tom Brady and you know if you have Tom Brady you're going to win. Also my home is playing on a sweetheart hometown deal too. Yeah. Yeah. Remember like the day after he signed the deal people were like well that he's already underpaid. Yeah. Yeah. Remember like the day after he signed the deal people were like, well, that he's already underpaid. Yeah. Basically. Well, he's one of those athletes like it's him in
Starting point is 00:31:29 LeBron where it's like if it was free market, they'd get paid a billion dollars. Yeah. Yeah, truly. Yeah. If there was no such thing as a salary. Yeah, right. Jerry Jones. What is he worth to your franchise? A billion dollars. Jerry Jones would give away his entire family for Patrick Mockams if if he could, easily. Easily. So Andy Reid also going for potentially in the goat conversation. Well, again, we've had this debate. We said the debate was whether there would be a debate,
Starting point is 00:31:58 which I think we're gonna be right about that. He still has a long way to go to get to Bill Belichick, but if he wins back-to-back Super Bowls, which hasn't been done since Bill Belichick Three and whatever however many years this has been and going to four and he's gone to two He's gone to Super Bowl with two different franchises pretty pretty crazy really crazy. Yeah. Yeah, I think you're right I think if he does do this then we'll be we'll talk about it Yeah, won't say that he's it obviously has a long way to go to get there
Starting point is 00:32:25 But he also had to like a pretty good successful run and Philly for a long time. Yeah, just couldn't get to the Super Bowl Last thing we're gonna get just completely Drowned in Taylor Swift talk, you know, yeah, I mean it's already happened. It's already happened You see any read did point I've drawn it so in point at each other post game They pointed at each other they looked to share a little bit of a moment there. I saw a picture that was going around I don't know if it's real or not. Yes, she's so many fingers that you have He had six that I could see in the point. Yeah pointing all six fingers at her Yeah, so I it seems like sparks were flying in that post game interaction there
Starting point is 00:33:02 Also, if you watch the video of Jason and Travis saying what's up to each other, tapping each other up, Taylor sneaks around, she lets them have their moment, she falls into the background, walks around and makes a beeline towards who? Jeff Darlington. Ooh!
Starting point is 00:33:17 He had another viral tweet about her. He was the one who tweeted out the point. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Also, Tony Romo saw Taylor Swift. That was fun. She complimented him. Yeah. Well, she's got bad taste. Yeah. That taste in men. I have a take. I have a take. I think that the Super Bowl should be announced by the best announcers that year. Well, just like the game is played by the best teams that year, we're going to get Tony Romo. And we're going to get Jim Nantz and Tony Romo Roma was gonna annoy the fuck out of America.
Starting point is 00:33:45 It should be Greg Olson and Jim Nance. Well good thing we have an alternate option this year, Nickelodeon. Oh, okay. Yeah. I have a take and this is, I'll say a friend of the show told me this. He does not, he has no inside information but I want to also protect his identity. He has a theory that this might be Jim Nance's last football game.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Oh, really? Yeah, he did retire from March Madness this past year. He's gonna do the masters though, right? He's just gonna do golf, but I started thinking about it. We've had a trade, or we've had potential trades in broadcasters before. I think, wasn't there a deal like Al Michaels?
Starting point is 00:34:24 Well, Al Michaels was traded for the rights as well do the rabbit. Yeah, that's right. Alright, so what why doesn't CBS if they lose Jim Nance because then you're gonna get we're gonna get just stuck with Tony Romo and Tom Brady might be coming into the mix Fox. Why did CBS trade for Greg Olson? Yeah, that's Greg Olson is so good. Yeah. And I know he's a friend of ours, but he's so good. He's like just trade for Greg Olson. Yeah. Greg Olson is so good. Yeah. And I know he's a friend of ours, but he's so good. He's like, just trade for Kevin Burkhart and Greg Olson.
Starting point is 00:34:50 Have Tom Brady do it with Jim Gray. Tony Romo just go play golf. He is actually. Jim Gray doesn't really call games. I know, Jacob's a joke. He is. That's all he does is he does podcasts with Jim Gray. That's it.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Tom Brady only does Jim Gray. So I think we said this last year, but Greg Olson did so good in the Super Bowl that he at least gives Fox something to think about because they've got what he's incredible. How many millions invested in Tom Brady on like a futures contract, which is whenever Tom decides to show up, right? Like you could maybe even trade Tom the rights to Tom Brady. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:19 CBS. Get get us for 375. Get Greg Olson swap with Tony. Tony Romol also had an all-time No-no in the broadcast booth when he's like and that's the game And what was it like five minutes left and I think it was after the likely interceptions like you don't do that That's the game almost. Yeah almost. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah pretty much. Yeah, no what they should do I think I think they should trade Romo for the rights to Tom Brady to
Starting point is 00:35:45 CBS, keep Greg Olson on Fox. And Jim Nance would probably stay if he got to call games with Tom Brady. If he got to work with Brady, yeah. And then, yeah, then Romo gets to go do whatever, go vacation and come out. We solved it all. Yeah. Perfect. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:59 Chiefs back in the Super Bowl and they're underdogs. I'm gonna make it a game of the year. Are you gonna do it Hank? Yeah, I already did. Yeah, it feels like the chief's like, they're inevitable. Patrick Mahomes is inevitable. I'm sick of just getting burned. I have to reassess my strategy with futures
Starting point is 00:36:17 and maybe I should introduce the word hedging into my life because this was now four great values that I lost in 13 months all to Patrick Mahomes. But it's good value, that's the thing. It's great value. It was a good bet. Well, people are like, oh, you're such an idiot for betting the Ravens.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Like, dude, I bet him in August in 18 to one. You would love to have an 18 to one ticket going to the championship game as a four and a half point favorite. The part that I fail at is the hedging. Yeah, I still haven't figured out which way I'm gonna bet during the Super Bowl. You're right. Patrick Mahomes. You're right. He's inevitable. But now I feel like everybody is
Starting point is 00:36:48 saying Patrick Mahomes is inevitable. Well, he's been inevitable for a while now, though. Yeah, but everyone's realizing it. I don't know. I'm gonna stand by but I've realized that I said comparisons. It's like they said that too. And he always won. Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna run the numbers. I'm gonna crunch them. And I'm gonna trust I'm gonna trust the data. Still gonna be a lot of people who bet on the Niners. I said on Friday it was like if I didn't have the Ravens future I'd bet on the Chiefs in this game because it's just that's just what he does. Yeah. So I didn't even it I saw it coming. I probably could have done something but I'm too stupid to do something. But I did see you kind of you
Starting point is 00:37:21 were pot committed at that point. Right exactly. It's like I you know it's fun to have something that you ride for an extended period of time to To hedge out of that come on, but I should probably reassess this situation. Oh the situation is fluid Uh, we're gonna say jake. I enjoy watching this run of greatness I know a lot of people are sick of it But like you're gonna look back one day and be like damn I got to watch my homes and kelsey do this year after year after year and it's like, as a neutral party, I'm like, this is cool to watch. Hank, I want Hank's thoughts right away.
Starting point is 00:37:48 I'm sick of it. Yeah. I know you are. Yeah, I had to discuss you with Jake just now. Yeah. And it's going to discuss a lot of people. But I like watching it. As a fan of an AFC team, that's especially disgusting.
Starting point is 00:37:59 Like a team that has title aspirations that maybe gets one of Mahomes' biggest weapons. Yeah, now that they're eliminated. Biggest weapons in the past. It's like, all right, this is cool. Yeah, as a fan of an NFC team that hasn't been to a Super Bowl in what, 34 years, 33 years, I'm OK with watching greatness at this level. But if I was a fan of an AFC team, I would be.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Fair. You're also much more than a diehard fan. If Passman holds the NFC, I'd hate him. Yes, I would hate him. I would hate him. If I lost to him in a Super Bowl as an NFC team, I would hate him. Oh, I would hate him if I lost to him in a Super Bowl as an NFC team I would hate him. Yes. Oh, I'd hate his guts so bad, but again, I don't live and die by my fandom Yeah, you like to watch the story exactly. This is a great story for the history of football It would have been great if Lamar had won a Super Bowl 2 mm-hmm. It would have been a great story for the history of my life
Starting point is 00:38:42 It would have been great if Lamar had won a Super Bowl two. It would have been a great story for the history of my life. Or the pills. Or the pills. Pills would have been great. Or the lions. Or the dolphins. Or the dolphins. Or the Steelers.
Starting point is 00:38:52 Yeah. Or the Browns. You could twist it in any way. Or the Texans. So the point is what you're saying is dumb because literally anyone who gets to the Super Bowl, there's a story. Yes, but these types of stories don't bring it out all the time. If the Browns were playing in the Super Bowl this
Starting point is 00:39:05 year would be an incredible story. Would it not? It would. But the Texans were the longer version of the steelers are the only story that probably would have sucked. Yeah, that's it. Like every other AFC team, there would have been at least a cool story. Yeah, with the Steelers, I don't know what the story would have been. It would just been like Tomlin, like average team overachieves their way to greatness. All you all you see students out there have something to hope for. Yeah, this is why you never get divorced. Yeah. Just stick it out.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Stay with it. You're fine. Stay with it. Eventually, you'll have one night of great sex. Yeah. Have another kid, another quarterback. Yeah. You just stick together.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Save the franchise. Yes. OK. Again, I mean, it was just a masterclass by the Chiefs defense in Mahomes' first two drives. We're just so, I mean, the ball didn't hit the ground. It was insane. It was crazy was just a masterclass by the Chiefs defense in my home's first two drives were just so I mean they were The ball didn't hit the ground. It was insane. It was crazy. Yeah, that that second drive I know the first drive was great because he completed every pass that second drive though was that was so Like that's what breaks your back if you're watching if you're rooting for a team against my homes because it was four third downs
Starting point is 00:40:04 that he picked up all himself and just big play after, big play after, big play, you just know he's gonna be there. And when he completed that pass where he got hit in the face, at that point, I thought it was over. It was like, it was like, when that, when that shit happens, then you know that there's something weird going on. It's gonna be one of those games. Yeah, he got punched.
Starting point is 00:40:23 It was a clothesline, it was bad. Yeah, I can't say that I'm rooting for the Chiefs, except I'm just gonna bet on them because they are inevitable. Like that's how I feel about the Chiefs at this point. I would love for our good friend, Kittle, to win a Super Bowl, but I'm gonna emotionally set myself ready
Starting point is 00:40:42 for Pat from home to win it again. And by doing that, I'm just gonna bet on them. And we should go back and watch that, that Bucks Chief Super Bowl. How did they stop him? They, what's the magic? They played at home. The Chief's offensive line was completely decimated.
Starting point is 00:40:55 It was a time game. That's how they stopped him. It was a home game. They had like, I think they didn't have anyone. I think they literally had no offense. That was right. That was the end of the big contracts, not on the offensive line.
Starting point is 00:41:07 And they basically shifted. And the Chiefs offensive line has been awesome. They were so good today, especially considering that Thunie had a pectare. Yeah. Like, what the fuck? You're just able to put another guy and substitute for one of the best in the league
Starting point is 00:41:21 and just not lose any steps whatsoever. But that was that buck's Super Bowl was the chiefs had no offensive lineman left. And I actually weirdly watched back. I've been I guess it's not weird because I like football a lot, but I've been watching back old Super Bowls like the the the condensed cut on YouTube. And I watched that a few days ago and my homes had like no time. It was running for his life on every play. They had like no fans in the stands too, right? No, they did have fans. They had uh
Starting point is 00:41:48 it was a first responders in the stands. It was a first responders in the stands. It was pretty full. So we do we need another pandemic to stop Mahomes. Yeah. The only thing that can stop them is a COVID year. Well, if they beat the 49ers in the Super Bowl, watch out world. Watch out world. Yeah, I don't like that. That's not great. What did you guys think of that uh pregame kerfuffle? The what? The kerfuffle. the kerfuffle before the game just in talking Travis Kelsey bullying a poor helpless kicker. Yeah, is that the message that we want to send to people? Is that like that's cool now? That's what that's what you should do is pick the weakest skinniest best singer on the field
Starting point is 00:42:19 And then just treat him like dirt. It was awesome. Yeah, good I liked it because everything about this was leading to a big game. It was like these two teams don't like each other. Yeah, there was another one. It was like one Raven versus like six Chiefs before the game kicked off. I want that.
Starting point is 00:42:35 I want the anger to be just boiling over right before kickoff. I want these two teams to hate each other. I want them to like despise each other. I want them to try to like bring knives on the field. I want it to be like the last Boy Scout. I want as much like a possibility for violence to happen at any given second. I got one last question for us before we go to the NFC Championship game. Will you trust Lamar next year when they're in the playoffs? Probably because I'm dumb and I've got the
Starting point is 00:43:04 attention span of the goldfish. So if Lamar has another MVP season, I'll probably be like, you know what? The playoffs are a small sample size. You have to look at the odds. The odds are Lamar is going to be good. Because I love watching Lamar play football and he's so much fun and he has been so good. But this one hurts if you're standing on the Lamar like, you know, he's up there in terms of passers with all these other guys.
Starting point is 00:43:27 Cause it just, it didn't look like Joe Burrow or Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen has looked at times in like these big games. He can have these types of games though, as long as he runs with the ball. And he was like, a half second, like I said. I know. He was a half second late leaving the pocket
Starting point is 00:43:44 for almost the entire game. So if he has these bad games, it's okay as long as he's still breaking off like 15, 20 yard runs left and right, that's fine. That's actually a trade off most people would make to have a guy that throws like a bad boneheaded interception, but at the same time ends up with like 90 yards rushing in a touchdown. All right. Yeah. All right. I'm gonna trust you. You can talk yourself back into back into Lamar Jackson Imagine if if Dak had thrown that pick. Yeah, it would be great. That would be incredible
Starting point is 00:44:12 There were three guys right there. It's three guys redo and it was all you needed was you needed a field goal You had to have a field goal in that in that situation. Yeah, he's like fuck it I'm gonna throw it into Isaiah likely covered by three guys for blame. I'm, I'm giving 70% of the blame to Lamar and then 30% to Todd Monkin. Yeah, Todd Monkin deserves a lot of blame. He got his lunch eight by Spags and by his own doing, his own stupidity.
Starting point is 00:44:39 It did just feel like the Ravens thought they were gonna win that game and they didn't realize that it was a game until the second half. All right, let's take a quick break and then we'll talk NFC championship game. Okay, quick break. Thanks to our sponsorship with Instacart. If you're hosting for the big game, got a friend who always shows up empty handed.
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Starting point is 00:48:41 and what will be one of the most horrific losses. Yeah, that was a horrific, horrific loss of your lines. Bad way to lose a football game. You had CD Deuce waving goodbye to the Niners fans in the first half. First half was all Lions. The first half looked like the Niners were one of the worst teams in the league. The play calling was awesome from the Lions. The second half things started to get tight. There were a lot of, there was some fluky stuff that happened, some weird shit going on. Deep pass to Brandon Iyuk and it bounced off Kindle Vinders helmet. Yeah, that was bad. And then Iyuk in the pre, he said in the post game that before the game, a ladybug landed on a shoe and he knew he was going
Starting point is 00:49:22 to have a lucky day. That was pretty fucking lucky. That was ladybug luck. That was lucky. That was like the um that uh the pass the the in the Seahawks Patriots Super Bowl where it like bounced around. Yeah. On the defender. Yeah. Picked it up. Um and then who was it the tight end right on the Seahawks caught that one? Yeah. Yeah, we don't talk about that that much because of what happened next. Right. But it was similar. Yeah, it was very similar. It was wild. It looked like the the Lions could run the ball at will against the Niners. a hard time playing from behind on defense, which I still think is kind of true. But then some weird shit happened the second half, they had a great forced fumble against Gibbs. So you can't take that away from the Niners. They forced that fumble.
Starting point is 00:50:15 Oh yeah, that wasn't a forced fumble. No, the one they reached in. You're talking about the one where he went the wrong way? On Gibbs? And off was like all disjointed? They reached in, they grabbed the ball. Yeah, but it was a disjointed handoff. It was disjointed, but they still forced the fumble.
Starting point is 00:50:30 Yeah. And then the fourth down play calls we should talk about. That's what everyone's going to want to talk about. By the way, the Detroit Free Press tweeted final, you know what happened. Yep. As sad as it gets. So the fourth down play calls, there were multiple. We actually,
Starting point is 00:50:47 people will focus on the two in the second half. I think you actually have to talk a little bit about the first one in the first half at the end of the first half with 10 seconds left. Dan Campbell kicks a field goal. Now as a chip shot field goal, it was like they were on like the five yard line. That was a little confusing though, because Dan Campbell has been the king of aggression, the king of balls to the wall. And that was like, okay, I'm a big believer in if you want to go aggressive,
Starting point is 00:51:16 stay aggressive. If you want to be, you know, you know, punt it and play defense, do that. That's fine. Just don't go wishy-washy That's what killed Brandon Staley when you start to just second guess and and and do things differently in situations like Dan Campbell I thought he was gonna be aggressive there. He explained it that it was just a little bit too far for what they wanted to do fine
Starting point is 00:51:40 The one in the the third quarter. They're up 14, they're on the 30 yard line, 28 yard line, I believe. I think it was 28 yard line. Because I think it would have been a 45 yard field goal. It would have been a 45 yard field goal, and they went for it, and that's the one that people are very upset about. I don't mind that one. Yeah, so.
Starting point is 00:52:00 I don't mind that at all, because the play call worked, they probably should have run the ball there there that probably would have been easier to you But Josh Reynolds he just dropped the ball right it was it was a play that worked and at the time It felt like you get that first down and you step on their throats and they're done right right and Yeah, you can send out your kicker to try a 45 yard field goal. He's not the greatest kicker in the world They don't trust them. You're not guaranteed to make three points with that. Right. I don't mind that play call whatsoever. It was a good play
Starting point is 00:52:27 call. It was a good call to go for it. He just dropped it. So the big and we've had this debate a lot like analytics versus you know, I don't even think this is an alert. I think it's just Dan Campbell is very aggressive and he's been aggressive all year. The whole reason the Lions are in this spot is because of his aggression. That's how he coaches the team. That's how he's built the team. Like they just go for your throat. So I agree with you. I don't hate that call because I really think people are just forgetting the fact they do not like or trust their kicker.
Starting point is 00:52:57 I think they brought Badgley back like a few weeks ago. He's tried two kicks over 40 yards 77% I Kind of like the fact that in Dan Campbell knows in the back of his head our defense isn't the best We have to keep scoring seven not three. I agree with you and Josh Reynolds the ball hit his hands Yeah, it's how she can catch people are mad at Dan Campbell because he's he's always the guy He's the meme of the giant balls in the wheelbarrow this This time his balls were so big his receivers couldn't catch him. And it was, I think the right call, it was the right play call. It was a bad execution from Josh Reynolds who had, he had some bad drops.
Starting point is 00:53:35 He had that third and 10 drop that was really bad. The other one. So the other one is the other one. Yeah, they were, they were not a similar situation. Because then by the time we got to the other one, it was 27-24 Niners. So the first one happened, it was 24-10 Lions. So they were trying to basically be like, if we can go up 21, we'll put this game away.
Starting point is 00:53:58 People are going to say, go up three scores. I get it. You can convince me either way on that one. I like it just because that's how Dan Campbell's coached and he's being consistent about it. I you can convince me kind of either way on that one I like it just because that's how Dan Campbell's coach and he's being consistent about it The other one was Niners are up three and you're on fourth and I think it was fourth and three this time And it was on the 30 That one I feel like maybe you should have kick yeah, and I don't know what the numbers say if you get into the math We're not math guys. I don't know but it feels like it's very important to tie the game right there
Starting point is 00:54:24 I just yeah because what happened is the Niners then went and And scored a touchdown and became a ten-point game with four minutes left and it's like games over everything fell apart after that I you touchdown everything they had that one bomb from Jack Fox I think he punted the ball like 75 yards in the air Yeah, and it bounced straight up at the one yard line Then the guy catches it and steps on the goal line resulting in a touchback. It felt like all the small stuff was falling apart for the lines at that point and the game kind of got out of control for them. And here's, I don't know how these numbers are crunched, but I'll just say them.
Starting point is 00:55:00 Ben Solak had it. Expected points lost for Detroit. Gibbs fumble minus five and a half. IEU reception off Vildor's face mask minus 3.3. Reynolds' fourth down drop minus 3.2. Incomplete to St. Brown on fourth and three minus 2.6. So the Gibbs fumble and the IEU reception cost them more than the fourth down failed fourth down. Yes. Like that's, I know that the game can be,
Starting point is 00:55:24 we do this thing because we, we watch and the easiest thing to do is criticize the coach and I get it. People are gonna be like, Dan Cable's an idiot because there's one other decision I wanna get to that was very mind-numbing. But the biggest plays of this game were those two, was the fumble and the euk reception.
Starting point is 00:55:40 Those were the biggest swings in win probability. Yeah, but this is gonna seem like a big like knock against being aggressive on fourth down Right, I don't even think the calls were that aggressive on fourth down They're you're only calling them aggressive because they didn't work if they had worked It would be just another Dan Campbell fourth down play call correct and Reynolds if Reynolds catches that the Lions Which we win the game which he should have right as somebody who had bet on Josh Reynolds to catch More than one and a half balls Right, I know for a fact that Josh Reynolds should have caught at least two balls that game
Starting point is 00:56:10 So the fourth down decision bot we're looking at right now It was a go for it because it added plus two win probability now I honestly don't like I people get mad about the numbers and I understand it because you can't play football on a spreadsheet But I was just such a thing as a game flow right and and understanding the situation and who you're playing against but that's my whole point that that's why I didn't hate him going for it on fourth and two the first time because He he knows his team and he's been this guy the entire season And this is what got them there and their defense is not great like you could see that there was gonna be some cracks forming in the second half.
Starting point is 00:56:47 Go try to like go up 21 and put the Niners away. Yeah, so you can criticize his decision making for sure. But as far as having Dan Campbell as your head coach, like do you think the lines we'd better off if they did not have Dan Campbell as your head coach? Right. Like no chance at all. They're in the NFC championship game.
Starting point is 00:57:02 They have not been in the NFC championship game in 30 plus years. Yeah, and credit to the Niners too because the Niners they were able to kind of adjust and respond Brock Purdy played like shit in the first half second half he turned into that the ESPN article what if Michael Vick were white yeah that was Brock's run and everywhere the last one I wanted to say about Dan Campbell the one thing that did drive me nuts is that timeout that he used at the end of the game. And to run the ball, run third down, and then call a timeout, that's not hindsight either. Like, we're watching that.
Starting point is 00:57:32 We were saying it is. We're like, what the fuck are you doing? Now you have to recover an onside kick. Right. Which you can't do. And this is kind of an aside, this has nothing to do with this game. They need to change the onside kick. It's impossible. You used to be able to recover an onside kick once every what 10 it was like 10 or 11% of time now nobody does now you got to hope for like the biggest fuck-up ever to happen to have a chance at it they need to change the rule because I like the
Starting point is 00:57:54 onside kick but I don't like how it's set up right now. No it's impossible they've made it impossible. Let them do the 10 yard run-up that was a sick play. Do the change it like the XFL and be like you have to convert a fourth and 20. Yeah, that would be fine too. I'd like the team to have a chance whoever's trailing and mounting a comeback. I'd like for them to be in the game at the end. But now once they burned that time out, it was so bad. It was like the game's over. That was so bad. Todd Bowles would have just packed his shit and gone home. Yeah, yeah, right. He would have just shook his hand and been like, I'm not going to use these. Yeah, I thought they were going to kick the field goal there.
Starting point is 00:58:25 That's why they ran. So they were going to rush out to the, the, the field goal unit, kick the field goal, go down seven. That was baffling to me why they would run and then have to use a timeout. That one, you can run on fourth down. It did feel like Dan Campbell as the game progressed. One thing you could, you could criticize him for, and I'll buy this, is like, it did feel like, and I know this is a gamble myself, like he was kind of pushing a little bit where he's
Starting point is 00:58:51 like, I'm going to keep pushing, I'm going to keep pushing. Someone said that Dan Campbell would hit on 18 in Blackjack. It did feel like he was doing that where he's like, just keep pushing, keep pushing. And that was where I was like, what's going on in his brain right now? Yeah, he doubles down every single time, every hand hand and he doubles his bet on the next hand. Yeah. Again I don't have a problem with going forward on the first fourth down. I don't have a problem going forward on the second although I probably would have rather kicked that. I don't, I just don't feel strongly enough to say like you have to kick that. I don't mind it. It was a
Starting point is 00:59:21 weird play call but then also at the end of the half kicking a field goal, going along with that, the rest of your strategy for the game doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Like go for it all three times, kick the field goal all three times. I kind of like that. They were all very similar situations where it's like you have two or three yards to gain. And that's that was brutal for the lines because it really did feel like everything fell apart in those, I know that they'll say momentum, but like momentum had nothing to do with a ball thrown 50 yards, bouncing off a guy's face mask
Starting point is 00:59:54 into Brandon Ayuk's hand. Yeah, that was insane. That wasn't momentum. That was just an insane, crazy play that happened. That was the ladybug effect. Yeah. And so, yeah, the Niners, Brock Purdy was very good in the second half.
Starting point is 01:00:06 Christopher and Kafery continues to be just insane. Scores, no matter, I mean, his prices to score are insane and he just keeps scoring. And yeah, I like that first half, I won't get out of my mind though with the Niners going to the Super Bowl where it's like, they just, they just got run on, so hardcore.
Starting point is 01:00:24 Yeah. They were just so out of place in every play and they did make good adjustments and they did dial up some stuff in the second half that like you saw Jared was a little more rushed. But it was crazy to watch the Niners, like this is now two games in a row, like Hank said. Like they barely won both these games. They get credit for winning them,
Starting point is 01:00:44 but it's also like that's not sustainable. They also beat the cousin's curse. Until this year, no team that had lost to Kirk cousins had ever been to a Super Bowl. Oh, wow. So yeah, monkey off the back, cow Shanhan apparently can come from behind in the fourth quarter. So that's that's another thing that they've gotten off there. But yeah, Brock Purdy, not good in the first half, second half, different guy, if Brock Purdy was taken with like a top 10 pick, I'm not even saying like number one overall. If he was a first round draft pick, I think we'd be like, party is good, showing signs
Starting point is 01:01:17 of of living up to his draft status. Right. I don't think that we'd shit on him all the time. There was a very funny moment on the cave, when he dropped back, and Aaron Foster was watching with us. He does not like Brock birdie. He watched him drop back and he goes, he reminds me a lot of TJ Yates. And then as the ball leaves his hand, he's your pick intercepted. Yeah, like right away. But I think that if he was like if he had that pedigree, if he was a first round pick would be like, party's good. And I think he's
Starting point is 01:01:42 probably on track to be a franchise quarterback. It is crazy though. So by the way, they were tied going into the fourth quarter. So Kyle Shanahan doesn't get an extra win on his on the one and 31. Yeah, the one and 31. He doesn't get an extra one. They were tied in going in the fourth quarter. Well, he's one and 31 when not winning, not leading the game. No, it's one and 31 when down by five or more going. Okay, I got
Starting point is 01:02:01 it. Yeah. It is crazy just how much everything swings in these games in terms of Dan Campbell, if they win this game, they go to the Super Bowl, he's, even if they lose the Super Bowl, like they're the last franchise that's played in every year has not been in the Super Bowl, like he's statue. Even if they lose, he's probably statue.
Starting point is 01:02:24 And if they win that game, if the Niners lose that game, like is Kirk Cousins the quarterback next year? He still might be. He still might be, but like, it's just nuts how much the swing is with how you feel about these teams and like their future. He still might be, you might be right.
Starting point is 01:02:40 Yeah, so let's talk about this matchup compared to the 2020 matchup because I think I've seen a lot of people saying like we're going to do this thing again. The Niners are a much different team. They've got they don't have Jimmy Garoppolo. They've got Brock Purdy who I think we can all agree is an upgrade. Right over Jimmy G. Would you rather right now have Jimmy G start Jimmy G is older and like hurt every year. Yeah, I take party. I think they're very similar. I would take party
Starting point is 01:03:08 They did not have Christian McCaffrey right and 20 so that's where I think big difference Jimmy on this team like from 2020 I think it'd be very similar, but yeah, it's a it's a big difference. Yeah, I'm just saying like this 49 is Better offensive. Yeah, no, they have a ton more. Yeah, like Brandon Ayukas come on. Yeah, Christian McCaffrey makes all the worlds different. Debo still Debo. Yeah, yeah, those still Debo. It also a fun stat. This one, let me find the tweet. Here we go. Brock Purdy will be the second seventh round draft pick in the last 25 years to be a Super Bowl starter at QB the other guy this guy Tom Brady It's crazy. Whoa. There was another stat. I forget who wait guys didn't get it Tom Brady was actually a sixth round draft pick and rock well deleted this wait when it would read the tweet again
Starting point is 01:03:56 Brock pretty would be the second seventh round draft pick in the last 25 years to be a Super Bowl starter at QB The other guy this guy Tom Brady was Tom Brady as a little kid in the San Francisco 49ers jersey. He had this loaded for a very long time. Yeah, that's wild. He was picked 199th overall, right? Yes. He deleted that. Yeah. We're on your ass. I'm very excited for the Super Bowl. I really am. I am too. I think it's a Super Bowl. It's a Super Bowl. How could you not be excited? Also, I mean, the big game, it really makes you go back and think like if the Niners had had Brock Purdy last year in the NFC Championship game hmm how much different would this be a rematch um well actually have a funny
Starting point is 01:04:32 treat about that this game really makes you wonder how much more the Eagles would have won by last year if Purdy never got hurt that was from Philly Maze oh when was that that was around30, so it was probably the second quarter. Maybe at halftime. Halftime. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:52 So it made you wonder. After wondering on it for a little bit, what did you come up with? Eagle still won that game for sure. OK. Yeah. Oh, also, all the listeners out there, Max has agreed to try to get Taylor Swift on the podcast for Super Bowl
Starting point is 01:05:07 We I have sources that say that she's not gonna be be in Vegas when we're in Vegas We're gonna be a better content or yeah, we could we could go to Japan if you want. Yeah, I could book it We'll go I would go to Japan for that if you guys want to go to Japan or so You know what we usually just do in-person interviews. I'll do Zoom. Yeah, I'll do Zoom too. I'll Zoom with Taylor. I'll do Zoom, or if she wants us in her box, we will go in inside of her box. All right, all right.
Starting point is 01:05:34 Perfect. You have a connection with Jason, he'll be in the box. Do we have a connection with Jason? I mean, he- Maybe, we're both podcasters. We would be friends for sure. Yeah, we would. You actually would be friends. We hung out with him once. No, finally out with him we would be friends for sure. So I guess that is a connection. Yeah. I think he'd probably listen
Starting point is 01:05:55 to that if that was your pitch. Like, hey Jason, you don't know me, but we would be like, yeah, best friends. Look at me, look at you. He'd probably be like, yeah, this guy's probably right. I would just read the always sunny Chase Hotley to him. And it would be. He's like, Jason, like if I was a couple inches taller and maybe a little bit stronger, like I could have been your life. Probably.
Starting point is 01:06:17 What do you think the odds are that we get Taylor on the podcast? Zero point. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Zero. Sorry, Burp. zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero comes to your show. Right. No one's buying any tickets. Travis can put in a word. He's gone. Jake, I don't think you understand how any of this works. Did Travis is going to tell her just to... No, but that's the point 01. Yeah. No, I actually don't think that's the point 01. Like I said, the point 01 is like nuclear warfare. Everyone dies except us. And we're like, Hey, we have to send out help to the aliens want to record a message with us. And we'll call it a podcast. And then she'd probably be like, have the aliens on.
Starting point is 01:07:06 I think- I'd rather die. The 0.00001% is the exact same percentage of the likelihood that Travis has not heard any of the clips from us talking about Taylor Swift. Yeah, true, true. I do like Jake that you think that if we've had someone on, they're like, our boys forever.
Starting point is 01:07:23 Yeah, you always say that's the goal. Friend of the show yeah I'd say it doesn't work for a lot of a lot of the guests maybe Travis I don't think Travis if we saw Travis on the street I don't think he would didn't you make fun of Max no no that was Billy yeah he made fun of Billy would he stop I do not think so I don't think he'd say he's probably on his way to a commercial shoot my problem is with Travis Kelsey that every time now that I see him on TV,
Starting point is 01:07:48 I think I'm in a commercial. Like he could be on the sidelines and I'll cut to him. I'll be like, this is an old spice commercial whether dressed up as the chiefs. Like he's all over the place. He's really good, by the way. I mean good for him making the money. But still as a viewer, he's now part of the commercials.
Starting point is 01:08:03 Yeah, this will be a big time like who's got the best tight end bowl because Kittle, we're partial to Kittle. Did you see George Kittle, his block on Aiden Hutchinson? That was football porn. Did you see it? Yeah, I did. You could tell he was laughing too. He fucking bodied him.
Starting point is 01:08:23 And I know Kelsey has the accolades and is a better catcher. Maybe kiddo has to block a lot so he doesn't get as many chances. There's a lot of weapons that you got to feed kiddo can block. He's I mean he could play offensively. He's fucking nasty. Yeah, he I love him so much. I want to I can't wait for the mic to come out from this like the NFL films recap. Watch inside the NFL. I guarantee he was laughing after that block. And we'll get Kittle on the show super week. So I'm excited for him to get back to the Super Bowl. People were playing that clip where he was sitting there
Starting point is 01:08:53 being like, I'll be back here, I'm back here. So I'm happy he's back there. He's got to win this one, but I'm happy he's back there. All right, anything else? Lions fans, I feel really bad. Detroit Donna, he did reach out to me. He said, he's pretty sad, pretty down, but there's a lot of things to be looking forward to
Starting point is 01:09:11 with this young Lions team. I told them that in perpetuity, if the Lions go to the Super Bowl, they can't, the one caveat is they can't beat the commanders or the bears on the road to the Super Bowl. Yeah. Because I don't want to buy tickets for that. But if they go to the Super Bowl without that happening, I will buy them two tickets to the Super Bowl. But imagine a commander's
Starting point is 01:09:32 Lions NFC Championship game and the stakes are either I get to go to a Super Bowl or the Lions go and I have to buy them. Okay so maybe we'll keep it in. Yeah how much more exciting would that be? You're right. You're right. Got to chase that high. That was tough though for lions. I feel bad I do I do think that the lions at least from what I've seen in the postgame they have a pretty good attitude about it Which they're not saying it sucks, but look at all we accomplished like Penae Sewell was like Yeah, this doesn't mean shit that we lost here. Yeah, like we're not this isn't what we set out to it We're now we're like every other team that lost this postseason. Yeah, Dan Campbell had some awesome quotes
Starting point is 01:10:06 He's like it's gonna be it's gonna be twice as hard next year, but that's why we do it Like this is why this is what sports are they crush you. Oh, that's what you you feel now I'm looking forward to the discourse of what do you do with Jared Goff? How much do you pay? I'm not looking for you're gonna have to pay him You're gonna have to pay Jared and he deserves every penny penny Yeah, well Ben Johnson is gonna be your coach Ben John So watching this game as a commander's fan it It was great for me because Ben Johnson is fucking awesome. I love his play falling the offense is just next level There's step ahead and then on the nine or side of the ball
Starting point is 01:10:42 Adam Peters our new GM helped put that team together. So I'm feeling, if we can just merge these two teams together with play calling and talent, then that's what I want. I was just going to say, the talent part is definitely important because Ben Johnson is incredible, but he will not have the Detroit Lions offensive line. He won't have that. And Jared had a good quote where he said like, what I love about Ben Johnson is that he does what we do best.
Starting point is 01:11:09 And he optimizes that. Yeah. And then as a Commander's fan, I'm like, well, we don't really do anything that good. I'm not sure. Who do you optimize? He's just going to get in training camp and be like, ah, shit.
Starting point is 01:11:18 Yeah. Just punt. I guess way, all the way. Same house spinning. All the way all the time. We have a running back that bounces back extremely quickly from being shot. So maybe that shoot him again and then punt the ball. Yeah, I like that. Yeah. Okay,
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Starting point is 01:13:52 I could get burned, but I'm sick of Patrick Mahomes burning me. So, and I, this is the rare bet where it's like if they, if the chiefs lose and I lose this money, I'll be so happy for Kittle and he'll probably maybe give me the money. I would be very happy for Kittle, for Shanahan, for Trent Williams to win a Super Bowl.
Starting point is 01:14:13 Debo, Chase Young, played so bad today. I don't know if you saw any of those clips. Yeah, no, he was talking about it. But yeah, I would be very happy to see those guys win a Super Bowl. I think I might go with Niners. I haven't decided yet. I did put a future on Christian McCaffrey winning the Super Bowl MVP I would assume that would mean that the Niners would win that game
Starting point is 01:14:32 They would have to win the only thing that I know for sure is I'm gonna bet no doings again Yeah, I'm gonna chase the no do I have to get that money back. Yeah, you have to I I'm gonna do the unstoppable force first the immovable object to game of the year versus Patrick Holmes Or the game of the year on Patrick Holmesomes which one is is more powerful yeah my jinxing ability you could be terrible like my awful awful gambling record if one of the worst gamblers of all time if you game of the year and the chiefs lose it is going to be on site for you in Kansas City yeah that will be fair chiefs fans can absolutely say I'm not allowed in Kansas City Although I am believing in your guy. Where's Chiefs of Hallick gonna watch the game jail jail still in jail probably jail Free free Chiefs of Hallick still jail. He was MVS. We need a tribute today. Did he really nice double check
Starting point is 01:15:18 That's probably the difference in the game I've also taken the Chiefs. Okay, So max max is a loser max is a loser Yeah, I'm a loser not this nine or six is is Yukon written all over it He tweeted. Oh, you're just gonna bet against them every single way. Oh, they didn't cover against the Packers No, I actually haven't bet on the Niners or against them because I thought that they were gonna kill Have you thought about how pathetic it is, what you're doing? Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:47 I just wanna make sure, because you're, if you had won the Super Bowl last year, I would understand everything you're doing, but you lost Super Bowl last year. But it's Niner's fans that are just annoying. Let's talk about this, because if you have the 49ers that are definitely better, that motherfucking graphic,
Starting point is 01:16:01 yeah, there it is. Get off the screen. It's the Washington Coaches graphic, I hate it. If you take this year's Niners and you just put Brock Purdy back in that game from last year, they probably beat the Eagles, right? Right. How many how many points did the Eagles lose by to the Chiefs last year in the Super Bowl? Three. Three points. Do you think Brock Purdy is worth three points? Easily. So I first is a non quarterback. But we're going to find out. Yeah, I guess we'll find out
Starting point is 01:16:25 Yeah, I'll find out exactly how many points Brock Purdy is worth. I'm just again I just if you had won the Super Bowl I would totally understand what you were doing, but you didn't but it's not and it's not just If I into myself, it's the Niners fans You just want to make sure that the sanctity of the I don that you rose I you put up. I just Don't want to hear from diners fans on it. Got it. Well, they kind of already proved their point Well, if they get smoked by the chiefs, then they don't well No, because they would have just gotten smoked by the chiefs last year But the Eagles and not get smoked by the chief. Okay, so but they would have still been to the soup bowl
Starting point is 01:17:05 No, their their point is already your your math that your math doesn't work out smoked by the chief. Okay. So. But they would have still been to the Super Bowl. No. Their point has already been improved. Your math doesn't work out. No, they would have beaten the Eagles. They were good enough to win the NFC last year. They won the NFC this year. Who knows what happens in a Super Bowl. But why?
Starting point is 01:17:20 Because they had Brock Purdy healthy this year. They won the NFC. But last year Brock Purdy got hurt. year, they won the NFC. But last year Brock Purdy got hurt, they didn't win the NFC. But that wasn't against the Eagles. I'm just saying, they've, both teams will, but both teams will play the Chiefs. So if the Niners, if the Niners get blown out by the Chiefs.
Starting point is 01:17:39 So you are just trying to keep the sanctity of an NFC champion. No, I'm just, I just don't want Niners fans talking about how they would have won that NFC championship. You don't want Niners fans getting so up in it. No, they can't. That they tell you that they would have gone to the Super Bowl and lost the Chiefs.
Starting point is 01:17:55 Correct. But they can because they won the NFC championship. He's upholding the sanctity of his second place. Yeah, right. It's pathetic. Only for Niners fans. Got it. It's pathetic. Only for Niners fans. Got it. It's pathetic.
Starting point is 01:18:07 Not for my own enjoyment. I will say this though, Max is the best at being second place, so I understand that. Yeah. I don't wanna be second place. I don't wanna be second place. How awesome would it have been though if it was the Lions and the Chiefs
Starting point is 01:18:20 and you got Eminem against Taylor Swift? That Eminem picture was so cool. Double birds. Double birds all the nine or so. It would have been great. If he, what if they came like in their pregame hype up video, it was Eminem doing the eight mile battle rap, but he was just rapping about Taylor Swift.
Starting point is 01:18:37 Ooh. The entire time. Ooh, it was actually Vivek doing it. That would have been insane. Yeah. Just doing it. Okay, I have a who's about I have a row back question real quick. RHOBACK.com promo code take use 20 use that right
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Starting point is 01:19:28 had to record early on Thursday because we were doing rough and rowdy. Raheem Morris got hired by the Falcons. That looked like the Bill Belichick destination. It looks like it's going to be Ben Johnson to the commanders. And I believe is Mike McDonald going to get the job in Seattle? I don't want to jinx anything. I would like Ben Johnson for the
Starting point is 01:19:46 corners is what I'll say. And then yeah, they're saying that that probably McDonald's either that or maybe Dan Quinn still I don't know. Mike McDonald did a good good enough job. Yeah, that he should still get the job. Not that you should judge it on one game. But if you were thinking about hiring Todd Munkin don't. Yeah. That's crazy though, the bill Belichick is gonna be unemployed. Yeah, insane. I guess it's just because of his age.
Starting point is 01:20:09 I think it's probably- They don't wanna do this all again in four or five years. Control is probably my guess, is that no team wants to give up control for the, it's a control age combo, where it's like, we would like Bill Belichick to coach. We don't know if we wanna give Bill Belichick the entire
Starting point is 01:20:25 like franchise if he's not going to coach for the next 10 years. It's like an older person just wrecks the range rover. And then they're like, hey, I'd really like to get the grand wagon here instead. And you're like, wait a second, what happened to your last car? We're going to take your license away. Yeah. Maybe you go take the test again. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:44 You should be, I would take Bill Belichick as a defensive coordinator right now. No questions asked. Yeah, it is crazy though. It's like a very big passing in the torch. If Pete Carroll and Bill Belichick can't get jobs. Yeah. Is Mike Rable just gonna sit out a year?
Starting point is 01:20:59 He might be a defensive coordinator somewhere, I don't know. I would like Mike Rable to sit out a year and wait. And then you can coach Caleb Williams in a year that'd be nice Yeah, it would be weird though Especially because bell check did take the interview and then for him to take an interview And not get a job who else it was the Falcons and who no two interviews with the Falcons Yeah, two interviews with Falcons
Starting point is 01:21:19 It'd be weird if he did those interviews with the team and then they passed him up Which is what happened. I feel like I don't know, maybe he didn't want it. I don't know. He probably said this is what I need and they were like, what the fuck I said. I don't want to give you all that. Or maybe he asked for something to be changed in their front office and they said no.
Starting point is 01:21:38 Yeah. I don't know if I could do that. There's another theory that was posted in our group chat. I don't know if you guys remember this. But the notion was that the Eagles would sign Kellan Moore to be their offensive coordinator and they would get Vic Fangio as their defensive coordinator. Those two things have happened
Starting point is 01:21:53 since we've gotten this text message. And then surprise, surprise, Bella Czech would swoop in and coach the Eagles. Ooh. So you think that would be Hank's nightmare,'s wet dream. He's so happy. Yeah. For the sake of the show I hope that. Vic Vanjo was a great hire by the way. Yes. Yeah Vic Vanjo is great. I'm optimistic about Kellan Moore but I'm Vic Vanjo's slam dunk. Yeah with Kellan Moore he was he was pretty good for a long time and
Starting point is 01:22:23 then he went to the Chargers, right? Yeah, I'm gonna chalk that up to the Chargers. Yeah, it's the Chargers. Yeah, yeah, he got his Chargers. He came down with a minor case of Chargers. Yeah, he got his Chargers. But you can bounce back from that. You don't have full blown falcons.
Starting point is 01:22:35 You have a small case of the Chargers. Right. And he's an experienced play caller, which is what we needed, and that's what we got. Okay. And then any other, Dave Canales, which we actually caught on and that's that's what we got. Okay, and then any other Dave Canalis Which we actually caught on Thursday show with Peter Schrager. He gave us the Dave Canalis shout out Schrager He five years in a row got the Super Bowl crazy people are like, oh well, they were the odds-on favorite fuck that
Starting point is 01:22:57 It's hard to pick the Super Bowl. Yeah, the two teams It's hard to pick the Super Bowl view do it if everyone could do it They would and he had Chiefs over Niners, right? He had Chiefs over Niners. He has the Chiefs winning. Not even the logo could pick the Super Bowl correct this year. No, it's gonna be an all red game. Oh, you want too much red.
Starting point is 01:23:13 You want a color stat from Jay Kuda, who I've shouted him out a bunch, but everyone should be following him at JCUDA. Every time the 49ers have won the NFC Championship game versus a team that has a shade of blue in their logo, they've gone on to win the Super Bowl. And anytime they've beaten a non-blue team in the NFC Championship game,
Starting point is 01:23:31 they've gone on to lose the Super Bowl. Interesting. So think about that. I think Cowboys, Bears, Bears, Rams, Cowboys, all those years they won the Super Bowl, and then Falcons in 2013 and Packers in 2020 they lost those Super Bowls. Just some just some things to think about when you're handicapping the game. What would you say in 2020. Falcons and Packers. Yeah Falcons and Packers. Just
Starting point is 01:23:58 something to think about. Sugar by the way he is 34 28 Chiefs Trent McDuffie pick six in the fourth quarter. That's not going to be it's I would be shocked if it's that high scoring I Think the chiefs defense is good enough to keep and that's just how they play they strangle you to death. I Would be shocked if it was that what's the over-under 47 and a half. I'd be slamming it to yeah, that'd be a fun game. I do like the over though Yeah, that'd be a fun game. Okay, should we do Who's Back of the Week? Who's Back of the Week? Hank?
Starting point is 01:24:29 Who's Back of the Week is college basketball. Yes. Football's winding down, time to get another sports. Ed Cooley came back to Providence. Yes. Which is probably, you know, the best things in sports are rivalry games, big games, and then also when a fan base just hates someone
Starting point is 01:24:43 that's coming back to their home court and the Providence fans were as crazy as I've ever seen any college hoops fan base for anything. It was awesome. It was awesome. The signs, that sign that just said Cooley as it cheats on his wife and then nothing for O-O-L-E-Y. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:01 Or nothing for the second O. They were just screaming at him. Cooley brought his wife and kids to the game though. They were just screaming at him. Cool. He brought his wife and kids to the game and they're the fans are chanting like where's your mistress. Oh, that's a lot. There's a wild move to bring your wife and kids. I bet she probably insisted on it. Yeah. Because if it was up to him, he'd be like, no, please stay at home. It was a great atmosphere though. And they were like, I think at the dunk, they just served beer to everyone, which I'm still getting used to that,
Starting point is 01:25:27 like in college sports, because for the longest time you couldn't. That crowd was raucous. Yeah, raucous. That mascot for Providence is a whole lot scarier when it's cheering against you. Yeah. When it's on your side, you're like,
Starting point is 01:25:39 okay, at least we got this creep going for us. When it's against us, that's menacing as fuck. Yeah. And then Butler had one of the all-time comebacks yeah that was incredible that was great game at Henkel two over times I will say since we're talking college basketball what did you have something to say no I'm just happy we're talking about like 11 and 7 college basketball games and fucking January well that was the biggest storyline that's huge it was incredible game down in the back the week next
Starting point is 01:26:04 talking about Butler. That's a great comeback. It was a great comeback. Double overtime. Big time program. Big time program, Jake. That's a fact. Two championships in the last seven years.
Starting point is 01:26:13 It's hard to do. You'll be happy to learn this, Hank, because you love to just relish in my sadness. I am all in on the Badgers. They're good. They're going to be top 10 probably on Monday. They're really good and I'm believing I'm believing in a miracle March run Yeah, I know you I can see even in your eyes right now. You're like yes The pain in the suffering you just think about downloads. That's it's gonna be yeah, but I'm I've
Starting point is 01:26:42 I'm usually pretty honest about where my my heart it like in terms of like do I fully believe Because I can usually emotionally keep myself, you know safe I'm gonna be unsafe in March if they keep playing the way they're playing. I'm gonna be emotionally unsafe Yeah, I feel like that sounds like a sweet 16. Yeah What if they play Arizona? What do you mean? What if they play Arizona? I mean, Arizona beat the fuck out of them. Oh, I'm sorry, Max. What's the last two times that Wisconsin played Arizona in the fucking tournament? You idiot. Learn college basketball. We whooped them twice in the elite eight to go to the final four. Two completely
Starting point is 01:27:17 different teams. Okay. But that's every Arizona fan heard you say that and like Max is the dumbest person ever. He doesn't know ball every Arizona fan is scared of Wisconsin That's a fact. I Mean, I just that's the only Wisconsin game. I've watched this year. I bet on Wisconsin Okay, but they were different you pick the one team that was dumb to pick but those are telling you every fucking That is all those people tomorrow Arizona fans like no, I do not want to play Wisconsin. They're not even the same coaches It doesn't matter. Greg guard was an assistant coach. Okay. Yeah, it doesn't matter. That was a dumb thing to pick All on saying is that but you you sounded dumb you sound like you didn't know no, no, yeah
Starting point is 01:27:56 No, no, no, no, no, you sound no, we'll do a poll tomorrow who sounded dumb there Oh, a poll for Wisconsin fans. What no, no, it's Arizona fans. What if Wisconsin fans did it? Yeah, I actually, yeah, I would love that. All right. Arizona fans, although Arizona is coming off a bad week. You're so awful. Arizona is coming off a bad week, so they might not be able to do it.
Starting point is 01:28:12 I think you should do two separate polls. One is, Arizona fans, how would you feel about this? And the other, Wisconsin fans, how would you feel about this? You're so off, I can't wait, I can't wait. I think neither team wants to play each other. I mean, they're a better team right now, but again, they were a better team when Wisconsin played them in 2014 and 15. I think both fan bases are scared.
Starting point is 01:28:34 Yeah, they have more NBA players and all that shit. I'm not scared. I'm scared to get my heart broken again, because that's gonna happen. All right, PFD year, who's back? My who's back was gonna be Belichick, because it turns out he's behind the scenes also still talking about other franchises. So I think this was on an athletic podcast. He said that apparently
Starting point is 01:28:55 Bill has been telling coaches that are thinking about going to the Giants like don't go there. I don't like the way the organization is run now. So he's influencing other coaches behind the scenes pulling the strings. But since we already talked about Bill, I'll just say my who's back is LeBron. Yeah. LeBron, big win, big win the other day. Anthony Davis, every time he falls to the ground,
Starting point is 01:29:14 I think that he's dead. Yep. I think that we just witnessed a death on the court in basketball and then he just comes back like two minutes later, he's fine. That was, we're gonna do our big NBA preview as soon as football ends. I watched that game.
Starting point is 01:29:26 It was an awesome, awesome regular season game. Like it had everything. LeBron, big moments. Steph, that crossover he had on AD to take it into overtime. Like hitting big shots. Clay hit a big shot. That was fun.
Starting point is 01:29:40 He hit shots from the corner and I have no idea how the shot doesn't get blocked. And it doesn't touch the rim. It just goes straight in. It's crazy It was that was a very very fun game dream on greens killing people again Dream on was laughing. Yeah when Anthony Davis went down. Yeah, that's funny All right So that's actually similar my who's back because I watched that game and it was so incredible My other who's back is load management because we were robbed of Jo and B. Playing in Denver against Yolkich. Mm-hmm
Starting point is 01:30:03 So to be the man you got to beat the man, right? 15 minutes before the game. He's like, no, I don't want to play. I want to duck nuggets again. Well, he's probably like Philly fans ran me out of town last year in the playoffs. Yeah, B-ball Paul. He's ducking them, though. B-ball Paul outplayed.
Starting point is 01:30:18 B-ball Paul. But do you agree that in Bede's ducking Yolkic? No, I don't give a fuck. Like you can't be like oh regular she's don't doesn't matter regular she's it doesn't matter regular she's doesn't matter and then he doesn't play regular she's in game go oh what the heck regular she's matters why is he playing games regular she's it would be nice to be nice rival but that's just like it'd be nice if you play everyone just likes to
Starting point is 01:30:38 pick a narrative for when they want that narrative well it was rivalry week I think I think that the kids the fuck out of Narratives I think that the kids that paid good money to go see that game and were deprived of having Joel and beat maybe their favorite player playing I think that's disgusting. I want to be to be healthy in the playoffs where what everybody says okay, but he did duck him Sure, I don't I don't care. He did. I don't you treated a lot about it for someone. He doesn't care Well, that's because you just kept sending things to me. No, I mean he he ducked him Don't care. Oh, he played him last week gets last time that and beat is played in Denver. Oh, I don't know 2019. Oh, wow. He likes to play your kitchen home and then It's not out here weirdly when they get to Denver his knee hurts and he doesn't want to play Ryan Howard has played more games in Denver
Starting point is 01:31:27 Since like 20 since forever That's that's that rock tank great job. You really nailed that one out of the park Also worth mentioning MB did not have the highest individual point total in the NBA this week. Oh, yeah, Luca scored 73. Yeah I so there are too many high school talk to a Rasello about this, but there, and I know JJ Redick has gone on about it, how the offense is really just the offense. So great. You can't tell me that the rule changes they've made have not like forced this to just be an insane, like every
Starting point is 01:32:00 game is in the two forties total wise guys are scoring 70, you can't hold or like grab anyone. You can't like touch them, you can't, it's stupid. I think they've gone too far. You should be able to touch people. You should be able to touch people. You think 100's gonna be broken? Probably with these rules. No, I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:32:18 These rules are insane though. You can't, you literally can't like, you can't touch a guy around the perimeter. But there's Jake It's such a big difference between 73 points and a hundred points if someone really wanted to try to do it and the whole team was like let's do this I actually think it up if the if the Warriors did the ring theory that you saw on reddit Which is just every other player yeah ring around Steph Curry and they let him dribble the ball up forming a screen
Starting point is 01:32:43 Steph Curry could probably do it. Yeah. But Luca. Yeah. I mean, he's he's insane too. I think Jordan's back. Jordan pool could do it. He might have to shoot the ball 600 times. Pool could do it if you had like 10 overtime.
Starting point is 01:32:55 Yeah. Played every single minute. Uh, okay. Jake finishes off. Oh, Mike. The week. My who's back is talking tennis. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:02 We had the Australian open. My who's back is talking tennis. Oh, yeah, we had the Australian Sinner and Sabalanka are your champions big upset over Djokovic which big guy you said they'll count because of the time And it also wasn't that big of an upset. It was like plus 180 for for him losing That's not that big of an upset was a joke. He was like minus money And the people yelling at him to they were yelling on vaccine things It was a hostile place. Well, he's banned from the tournament a few years. Yeah, it was the boarded right? Yes, so he didn't have practice on that court. Yeah, it's hard. So
Starting point is 01:33:35 Sabalanka she got her revenge on Cocoa golf remember that big semi-final or championship match at US Open Yeah, Jimmy Butler the Bebers were yep wearing Cocoa's box when she won it. And she got her revenge in Australia this week. Yeah. So first major in the books. Who's the guy's center? Yeah, center. I like that.
Starting point is 01:33:55 Italian, yeah. I like that. Yeah, he is. Of course he is. What's his deal? He's just one of the up and comers. Just an Italian center. Yeah, just trying to break up the big three
Starting point is 01:34:11 You guys want that stat that I alluded to earlier? Yeah, I'm gonna do a blind blind QB pull. Okay. All right, so The good news is these teams is against the exact same defense in the exact same situations QB 1 26 for 39 258 yards three touchdownss, zero turnovers, 24 points scored, and his defense got two stops the entire game. QB2, 20 for 37, 326 yards, one TD, two turnovers, 10 points scored, and his defense got seven stops. Okay, I'm gonna take QB1. That would be Josh Allen versus Lamar Jackson.
Starting point is 01:34:47 But Josh Allen gets a lot of the blame. Yeah. I saved that for the end of the show so people can't get upset at me. Well, Lamar's gonna deal with his fair share. He is, but there was a lot of like, Lamar's better than, like, whatever. I don't wanna do the whole thing,
Starting point is 01:35:01 but I think Josh Allen's one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. He just keeps running into Patrick Moe. It just sucks that he's in the air. Yeah, it's like what I'm actually glad If he was in the NFC, he probably would have been to at least two super. They should yeah The NFC needs all the good quarterbacks, please. Yeah, that was a stat. It was the end of the show so people can't get mad All right Anything else? Anything else?
Starting point is 01:35:22 That was fun. That was a fun championship Sunday. We gotta do Narrative Wednesday. Narrative Wednesday also bonk list this week? Yeah, sure. I wanna add myself, I wanna add myself to the bonk list real quick if you can do a late submission because I was one of the, 32,000, oh no sorry sorry 29,000 bookmarks on the Sydney Sweeney Hot Ones clip. 29,000 bookmarks on that tweet. And everyone was like look at all the bookmarks like fuck it I'm gonna bookmark it. Do you ever actually go and look at your bookmarks?
Starting point is 01:36:06 Every now and then, I'll look at a couple. Never done. What do I have? Let's do a quick bookmark. Sometimes I'll have tweets that get like a shitload of bookmarks. I have no idea why. Oh, this one sucks.
Starting point is 01:36:15 I bookmark someone's sit. I'm gonna look at bookmarks. I bookmark someone at 2.14 PM today, which must have been like five minutes into the AFC Championship game. Someone said, imagine fading my homes. I was hoping that I was going to come back to that bookmark.
Starting point is 01:36:30 That didn't work. What else you got? Oh, I have some book, some personal vendetta bookmarks that I can't talk about, but I have them. What do you guys have? I bookmarked the guy who got stuck in the vase. That was awesome. I don't know how I get there.
Starting point is 01:36:50 I don't do bookmarks. I have so many. Oh, I bookmarked this guy, he's got me real good. He said, great coffee, man, are you excited to get dominated for another 15 years? So I was like, I almost retweeted it because it was still blue coffee, but then it was on top of a Jordan Love jersey.
Starting point is 01:37:06 So I'm gonna hopefully come back to that. Yeah, what, you guys have anything bookmarked that's good? I don't know how to find them. Yeah, I have some good bookmarks. Oh, bookmarks, here we go, bookmarks. I got none. I got some stuff that I was planning on reading and just never read.
Starting point is 01:37:21 I got none. I have some Bear Stat bookmarks that I tried to use to my benefit. Also Hank, you might've been right that I was flip flopping. Thank you. You might've been right, okay? You might've been right.
Starting point is 01:37:39 Yeah, I just pretty much, they're all grudge bookmarks. And then Sidney Sweetie. Oh, oh my God. All right, ready? 40. Oh. Okay, you didn't say the number. Number.
Starting point is 01:37:51 I'm gonna do 40. Nice. 18. 20. 3. 3. Hank, sorry, you have to go last. Got it.
Starting point is 01:38:00 I'll go 15. Okay, good pick. 3. 99, Pog. Shane, 21. Is everyone picked? Yep. All right, Hank.
Starting point is 01:38:10 17. This is gonna really suck if it's 17, not 40. Oh. 47, I got nervous there for a second. 47. Love you guys. To find you shine The opera cover for your love of dreams Shine The opera cover for your love of dreams Take on me
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