Pardon My Take - Chris Long Talking Divisional Round, Adam Schefter On Coaching Carousel, Picks And Preview + Fyre Fest

Episode Date: January 17, 2025

NFL Divisional round is here but first a deep dive on the Italian soccer team Falconer who got kicked off the team for getting a penis enlargement (00:00:00-00:22:29). We then talk every game for Saturday and Sunday. Do the Texans have a shot? Can Commanders magic run continue? Will Jalen Hurts find AJ Brown and Ravens/Bills should be awesome (00:22:29-01:08:38). 2X Super Bowl Champion Chris Long joins the show to talk Divisional round, matchups he can’t wait to see, what it’s like to get a new Head Coach and more (01:08:38-01:55:56). Adam Schefter joins us to talk Head Coach carousel, Cowboys possibly going for Deion and more. We finish with Fyre Fest of the week (02:25:44-02:39:43).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. On today's Pardon My Take, it is time for divisional round of the NFL playoffs. We have our good friend Chris Long on the show. Been too long. Too long. Live of the year three times? I think first two years he might have had it. Yeah. But right now, Jerry looks to be at the start of a dynasty. Chris Long, live of the year, three times? I think first two years he might have had it.

Yeah. But right now, Jerry looks to be at the start of a dynasty. Yeah, he's on fire. We have Chris Long, then we have our good friend Adam Schefter. We're going to break down some of this coaching stuff. Is Deion going to go to Dallas? It seems like that's a possibility now. God, I hope so.

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Bonus bets expire 168 hours after issuance. For additional terms and responsible gaming resources, see dkng.co slash audio. Okay, let's go. Welcome to part of my take presented by DraftKings Sportsbook score big during the NFL playoffs with DraftKings Sportsbook download the DraftKings Sportsbook app and use code TAKE that's code TAKE for new customers get $200 in bonus bets instantly when you bet just five bucks only on DraftKings Sportsbook. The crown is yours. Today is Friday, January 17th. And Hank, you know what I'm about to say? One of my favorite weekends of the year. Yep. Divisional round.

Hey, my sister's birthday. Oh, no, I was not going to say that. Happy birthday to Hank's sister. Happy birthday. What's up? Happy birthday, I was thinking about it. I might wild card weekend is great because it's six games, more football, more better, but divisional round. This is, this is it. This is the final eight teams. These teams all have one, you know, want to play off game or how to buy. This is the cream of the crop. This is, this is my favorite. I've been pretty consistent about this one. This is my favorite sports weekend of the year Yeah, because in wild card weekend sometimes you have you got some lopsided matchups, which we saw last week divisional round

You get the the prestigious teams you get the elite team correct playing against teams where they win their wild card matchup And even if they weren't favored to go for on the playoff So like well, maybe the Texans can do some damage this year that type of thing So this this is my favorite sports weekend of the year. And also next weekend, one of my favorite sports weekends here. Oh, the championship. Yeah. Yeah. Because you get to ticket. I mean that like the championship round is always you remember who played in championship games. You don't always remember who played in the visual round. Next week is my favorite Sunday of the year. Yeah. Yeah. My favorite sports

weekend of the year, but I'm pumped. And I've thought about all four of these games back and forth. I got ways. Some people were angry at me because I was like the commanders are final four this weekend. This is the final four. And they're like, there's not four teams left. I was like, there's four games. Yeah, there's four games. And you're also in the final for the NFC final four. Yeah. Have some, have some conference pride people. Yeah. Come on, get with the program. Uh, all right. We're, we're going to do our picks and preview. Do we have anything else going on? I know we're going to talk to Schefter about coaching. Uh, it does. I did see Edwarders report that essentially said Deon Sanders,

if he gets offered the Cowboys job, we'll take it. Yeah. Now Jerry Jones, will he offer him the Cowboys job? I want it just cause it'd be fun. I think it'd be great. And I'm not even factoring in like, yes, I have an anti Dallas bias. We've demonstrated that pretty clearly on the show that it's been fun to see Dallas at times lose, especially when Hank's rooting for him. I want it because it would be just an incredible story for the NFL. Like having Deion in the NFL, especially for the Dallas Cowboys would be awesome.

Like I want to see Deion interacting with Jerry Jones, how he handles that relationship where Jerry, you know, he likes to have a guy that he can push around sometimes. Deion will not be pushed around by Jerry Jones. It would just be awesome. It would be good for sports. Yeah, it would. It would be good for sports. So we'll see what happens there.

Mike McCarthy did interview with the Bears. He did it in person because he wanted the free dinner, I assume. Yeah, that's not a fat joke. One possibility. Yeah. Also maybe just a possibility that Mike McCarthy, he knows that face to face is way better than Zoom. That's true. Maybe not with his face. Right. Or also wait, maybe he just knew that if he showed his face on Zoom, it would look too much like him looking at the scoreboard with his fat confused face. It would take the whole Zoom up.

Yeah, it's like the camera adds 40 pounds. So maybe him being in person was just a slimming move. That might be new. And I don't even know what the Jets are going to do. I feel like the Jets have been... What's going on, Meeps? And Schefter will tell us, but what is going on? There was a report that Aaron Glenn is his he wants the Jets. Jets fans want Aaron

Glenn. Oh, we're going to make the wrong choice. Oh, okay. Well, it's yeah, it's it's straight. It's it's as straightforward as possible that one side wants one him. The other side want like there's this is a perfect marriage and they will fuck it up. So the Jets, they seem to be enjoying single life right now. They're like they're doing a lot of dating they're figuring out what what their type is because they're meeting with everyone I hate wait how many did you do? Did you beat the Bears Bears did 20? I? Don't even know how you could come up with 20 names. I think well with the Jets It's like they're doing GM's as well. Yeah, it's like you're doing your own version of that only fans check Yeah, you're gonna. What are you John's is gonna hold up the sound that says a thousand a thousand candidates interview series

I think they just also put in a request to interview the DC for the Packers I don't even know what they're doing at this point. I think there's a lot. It's uh No, Robert Sala. I think is a finalist for the Saints. Yeah, yeah boys and the Cowboys the yeah I don't really understand the whole process of And the Cowboys the yeah, I don't really understand the whole process of interviewing like 20 25 guys like I get the saying of like no no stone unturned or whatever There's some stones you don't want to look under David Shaw. You didn't have to look under what that was It just said a punt a bunch of weird bugs and shit. Yes, it punt from plus territory I think David Shaw is a classy guy. Yeah, he's just a class act. So they just wanted some class in that

He's a he's a he is also a classic case of miss timing it Yes, like he was the hot name for a while and then It was they kind of faded on him. You got to just strike while the irons hot All right, so we don't we'll ask Schefter what's going on with the Jets Did you see also our good friend Jim Harbaugh gave me in this podcast a shout out because he's also buying all of Justin Herbert's stock. That's insider trading for him though. Was he asked the question about you or did he just see the clip?

No he saw the clip. He came in prepared. The question was something like how did this game go and everything and then he started answering it and then he was like in One last thing. Can you play it Max? He was like in one last thing You know big cat said this and I mean listen, I'm ready to buy stock it was kind of Outside of the fact that it was I loved that he mentioned me. It's kind of cool how much he has Herbert's back Yeah, all right play it. I

agree with big cat, you know, from, uh, when he said, if you're, if you're kind of, he said, but big cat said, uh, if you're selling Justin Herbert's stock and he's buying, like completely concur with that statement. So we're going to make billions by Justin Herbert's. I mean, if you really think that Justin Herbert is a bad quarterback, I questioned whether or not you watch football. Yeah, I agree. I do. Oh, I do. In fact, question if Hank, yeah, that's true. You are, this is the, you're the perfect person be sitting on that couch being like oh and two in the playoffs. Thanks Yes

He's not a bad quarterback. No, he's talented. He's got a water bag. He's got talented. Yes. He's got town. He's got talented Also harbaugh, I mean if Lamar loses this weekend like again, it's kind of this it's like he won't make him a bad Quarterback Lamar is obviously really good But still if you can't win in the playoffs it doesn't matter how good you are who care two games is very early to say you can't win in the playoffs would you not agree with that bad games the first game yeah no it was they were two bad games I agree with that they were two bad games because remember the the first game he didn't throw like interceptions but he yeah he

couldn't get first down is one and a half interceptions but he yeah he couldn't get first down. It was one and a half bad games. But he I still if next year they go and they're like at a home game and he completely completely shits the bed I will start to possibly like you know do some insider trade you know Nancy Pelosi unload a little bit of the stock but maybe not say it. Cannons. I think that what Hank said a second ago is insane. That who cares if you're a good quarterback if you don't win the playoffs? I care. I think it matters.

Like if you're a good quarterback in the regular season, you're still a good quarterback. Yeah, you do have to elevate your game. Yeah, you do have to elevate your game. You just have people tacking onto it, but he can't win the playoffs. Yeah, I just think two games is way too early to say like he can never win in the playoffs Yeah

Like he if he gets a couple receivers and they get like I said a home playoff game and he's terrible then I'll be like You know what? Maybe there's something there but until that happens, I'm buying I'm buying all the stock Did you see also Harbaugh like a hockey guy is he's getting a heart surgery and a hip new hip at the off season? Yeah, he's getting that well it's the heart ablation. Yeah, that's in a shocking twist of events. I think I accurately diagnosed Harbaugh when he had that moment on the sidelines. I was like, he'll get an ablation, he'll be fine. It's like they're gonna shock part of his heart. They're gonna put electrical charge into part of his heart and kill off the bad cells, leaving his heart stronger. It's like the buffalo herd theory. Jesus. Where the buffaloes get hunted, the weak buffaloes get hunted down by the predators and then the herd moves faster in the long run. Damn.

Yeah. That's a crazy surgery. Yeah. So it's like they're going to, it's outpatient, I think. Just put like electrical charges on his heart and then he's going to out there feeling 100% better. Do you guys ever think about how crazy like surgery is? Do you ever like even we were talking about the other day LASIK like they invented a way to shoot lasers in your eye to make you look to make you have 20-20 vision for the rest of your life. Yes sir. That's fucking insane. Surgery to me the crazy part is just anesthesia.

They figured out a way where they can like kind of kill you for a second. You don't remember anything. You don't feel pain and then you just come back. And anesthesiologists I think make bank. They make bank, yeah. I want to be anesthesiologisted after the Super Bowl every year. Yes. Like just put me in a coma until March Madness.

Yeah. year. Yes. Like just put me in a coma until March Madness. Yeah, we've talked about the idea of, I really think it would do well like a pod that you could put your body into after a bachelor party for 24 hours that's like refrigerated. Yeah. You know when there's a spinal injury and they bring your body temperature down to like 86 to stop the swelling? Imagine if so, if you're like, all right, I just finished a three day bender, I'm gonna go lay in this pod for 24 hours, they're gonna knock me out, they're gonna cool my body down, and when I wake up, I'll feel great.

That's why you gotta take the buffer day after the bachelor party. Yes. Like take that work day off on Monday. I had a friend once who did a move that was insane, but looking back at it, was like, holy shit, he might be a genius. He rented a hotel room in the city we were in and stayed on Sunday night just to sleep.

And then flew back on Monday. I had some buddies that- You have the extra day. Yeah. That's very smart. Yeah, he's just like, we all were ready to go to the airport and he's like, all right, I'm going to my hotel. And I was like, what are you going to do?

He's like, I'm going to probably eat dinner by myself, go to sleep at seven o'clock and sleep. I had some buddies. We did that for a bachelor party in, uh, in Colorado, where on the last day they just said, okay, we're going to leave. We're going to go up to Denver. It's when weed had just been legalized there. Like we're just going to get really high and sleep all day, uh, Sunday and then into Monday morning. Yeah. Go be ease ourselves back into the real world. Yeah. I shit even after doing like two nights where you don't sleep that well It'd be awesome to have that pod go in at like 6 p.m. Right and then wake up at like 10 a.m The next day someone invent that yeah, we have all types of surgeries max

Are you thinking about your bachelor party that you got to go on? Or better or better at yeah Yeah, I was gonna talk about that. We haven't got a lot of submissions. I mean the submission we got last night is an all-timer. Mm-hmm. You want to say it? No.

Let's talk about a fire fest. It's a fire fest. It's a fire fest? You have a fire fest this week? No, we can just talk about it, talk about it then. Okay. Why not just, I mean, we're naturally talking about bachelor parties. That's fine, we'll circle back to the bachelor party.

Yeah, we'll circle back to the back. Yeah, we'll circle back What's the issue? This football is time to talk about football. Okay, I've won non football really That I think it's one of the more fascinating stories of the year And it's a soccer story coming out of Italy. What is this? So Hank just what a lead-in. Yeah, we're talking about other. So far, I'd say this is the story of the year. Okay. Lazio, the Italian football club.

Okay. They're in a bit of hot water right now because they have an official team falconer. Falconer? The guy that flies the falconer. He does falconry. He does falconry. Yeah, he's a falconer. Falconerist.

Falconer. He does falconry. Yes. He's a falconer felt Kerner a stock falconer. He's he does falconry. Yes, so this guy He's been with a team for years and years and years and he he manages the Falcon flies around the stadium They're the Falcons their mascot is a Falcon. Okay, it's part of the pageantry dumb question Just wanted to the Syria Club Lazio. Yeah, this guy just got fired. Okay, he got fired because he had a Penile enhancement surgery. Was he fucking the Falcon?

No, he was not fucking. Well, we don't know. We don't know. I can't take a story about a guy fucking a Falcon. To my knowledge, he has not fucked a Falcon, but it would not shock me if it went there at some point. This is a crazy story. This guy got fired because he got a dick implant. That's not cause for firing, but right after he got the dick implant, he posted a picture of his dick with a dick implant saying what a great surgery he just had and how he needs to ejaculate at least twice a day with as many women as possible. The owner of the club said this like in his pants or just straight up posted his dick naked. I have not seen the picture. I've just I've read the articles about his dick was out in the picture

and he's bragging about his his dick implant. So he was fired. The owner of Lazio was very, very upset with him. This guy apparently lives on the training ground with the Falcon. He lives like in the team facility with the Falcon. He was suspended in 2021 because he was doing Benito Mussolini salute. And then they brought him back. They said, okay, you've served your time. We're bringing you back. So fascism.

Okay. Fascism. Okay. It's not. So he has been fired from the team for posting this picture. And then he barricaded himself inside the team's facility demanding that he have his job reinstated. So he's in a hostage situation,

potentially with the Falcon, like threatening to kill the Falcon to get his job back. And jerking off because he's got to ejaculate twice a day. He has to ejaculate twice a day. The owner also fired the doctor that did the penile enhancement surgery because apparently that guy's also the team doctor. So the team doctor gave the falconer a new dick. This feels very wrong in the fact that like, it's in Italian league? Yeah. I mean, Italians are horny.

They're horny. Why would the owner be against this? This guy. Guy's just trying to get laid and also lay better. This guy. Is the owner, it might be like the owners not Italian Oh, and the owners got a small dick. Oh, there's definitely got a tiny penis. The owner is a hundred percent Italian. Mm-hmm. His name is Lotito lotito so lotito

Claudio lotito Lotito and then then he did come out and officially say that the the picture that he posted is worse than the fascist salute Okay Officially say that the the picture that he posted is worse than the fascist salute Okay, yeah, so the story just keeps getting weirder I don't know what's gonna go on with this hostage negotiation if he kills the Falcon I'm out on this guy right now. I think I'm on his side Claudio people are the streets are saying that you're upset because You have a smaller penis in this guy. Yeah, don't let that become the story Yeah, let this guy just keep. Don't let that become the story. Yeah.

Let this guy just keep his job and keep the falcon safe. He's, listen, what, I mean, people get surgery to get themselves better. What's wrong with that? I agree. Like some people on this podcast have had some elective surgeries and there's nothing wrong with that. There's no problem.

So he had a procedure done. And yeah, I just want to say I stand with the falconer. Not the- As long as he doesn't harm the fal phone. Not the, not the Mussolini stuff. Yup. I disavow that. Yep. But I think let he's Italian. He's Italian. Let him be a little bit horny. I think it's good for club morale. You don't want to have a Falconer out there with a tiny penis. No, that's awful. No. So he's trying to better himself. He's probably trying to improve the club's image as well. if he does harm the Falcon then I'm out on this guy

But right now I think he's reacting as as you or I would yeah here in this situation Which is to grab a bird take it hostage and then barricade yourself and inside your employers facility Well, you masturbate all while you masturbate all the time. I don't see anything wrong with this and Yeah, we stand with him until he does until he hurts the Falcon harm the Falcon, at which point we wash our hands. I also like it sounds like and I don't know the picture. But it sounds like he was just kind of putting out like a PSA. Yeah, like, hey, I got a I got an awesome new dick. And it needs to get sucked. So that's what he was. So could anyone anyone who's got a mouth? Let me know. His explanation for it was, I was promoting self-love. I was promoting, I was shining visibility on a part of lives where people are generally afraid to discuss this. They're ashamed and they shouldn't be ashamed.

Look, I had the surgery, it's good for me, you can too. Yeah, yeah. Raising awareness of his bigger penis. And just, yeah, self- his bigger penis and does yeah Self-betterment should not be frowned upon. They gotta get girls. That's how you break through the hostage situation Yeah, send some girls in open the doors and then bust in. Yeah, so some chicks in alright So Falcon Falconer Falconery guy Falconer keep keep fighting but don't fight the Falcon Oh also the the doctor that was fired by the team claims that he was not fired.

Oh. Because he is not under contract with the team. And also probably because Claudio wants that surgery. Yeah. Is what the streets are saying. Yeah. Again, Claudio, don't make this part of the stories. Yes.

You're jealous of someone else's penis size. So this guy is the team doctor, but he didn't have a current contract in place. That's just wild to me that the team doctors putting dicks in yeah, but I guess it makes sense for Italian soccer Yeah, that's exactly it's what Italian soccer would be I bet you that guy that goes out on the field for the Cowboys with a cowboy hat that doctor That guy's definitely giving Jerry Jones a penile implant. Yes. Oh, yeah, I remember that guy He's the funniest and he any guy who's wearing a cowboy hat is a doctor or a lawyer Is always funny. Yeah, how is lazio doing this year? I did not other for the care to look their fourth

So they're actually good. They're in there in the right now if they finish where they're they're at right now They'd be in the Champions League next year. They're ahead of you ventus So you you're fucking up a good thing here, man Yeah, I think this is a curse waiting to happen. Waiting to happen. Okay. Should we talk some football, some American football? Yep. All right. Before we do that, uh, quick word from our friends at Kevin's natural foods. If you haven't tried Kevin's natural foods, you're missing out. I had the stir fry yesterday.

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let's do it time for the games and I'm excited about all of these games. Saturday afternoon we're gonna start oh by the way, just a note. So there's two eight plus point favorites and the two so eight plus point favorites have not not lost outright since the Ravens lost the Titans member when the Ravens are the one seed in 2019. And then the previous one was the Chiefs and Titans in 2018. So that was before Mahomes. I think that was Alex Smith. Mariota for the Titans, yeah. So it's been a run for eight plus point favorites in this round to win outright. So that's why I bring that up with the Texans and Chiefs because right now the Chiefs, Texans versus Chiefs on Saturday afternoon, the

Texans are eight and a half point dogs, the overrunners 41 and a half. I am NOT going to do the thing where I tell myself the Texans just want a playoff game, the Chiefs haven't won any playoff games this year, you got to take the Texans. Yeah Hank is. Hank is 100% gonna do that thing. Which that's good, we need somebody that will do that. I won't be afraid. Yeah, the Chiefs defense is completely different. Like their defensive line, Chris Jones against that Texans offensive line, I think it's going

to be an issue. And the Chiefs are healthy, they're rested, they've got all their guys. We saw them at the end of the season. Don't forget how good the Chiefs are. Stop forgetting how good the Chiefs are. They're awesome. Their offense is humming. Everything looks good for them. Andy Reid off a bye. Don't overthink it. It's also going to be a hive 17 low of three in Kansas City on Saturday.

So Hank, did you count on that? No. That the Texas boys going up tornado alley to Kansas City, playing outside at Arrowhead Stadium in the cold, that should factor into it too. Yeah, that's going to be a problem for the Texans. Yeah. Jalen Watson is supposed to be back, which is huge for their defense because if you had to say one weakness is when he got hurt, chief secondary could be vulnerable at times.

But I think this game comes more down to the Chiefs looking at their season. They did what they've done the last couple years where they won a shitload of games, they looked not great in some of these games, so people threw doubts at them, and now they're coming into the playoffs, and their offense is fully healthy.

Pacheco's back, they got Xavier Worthy, Deandre Hopkins, Juju Smith-Schuster is getting worked in, Hollywood Brown. Like they, the last time we saw them, eight guys caught a ball, and Patrick Mahomes had 320 yards and three touchdowns. That was against the Steelers. So I think they're just gonna flip the switch

and this offense is gonna look great. And it's playoff Patrick Mahomes. Playoff Patrick Mahomes in the divisional round. You ready for this? He is six and oh. Yep. He has 1,813 total yards, 16 touchdowns, total touchdowns, zero interceptions, 70.4 completion percentage.

He plays in this divisional round and he's basically just, I mean, he's undefeated, he's lights out. That's just what happens. It should be six, no asterisks because the Browns should have beat him that one year. But not actually. But they didn't actually. Yeah, they didn't actually beat him. The Chiefs ended up winning that game. But yeah, Patrick Mahomes in this round of playoffs, lights out. Don't forget that. Stop forgetting about the Chiefs. This is the rematch of the original, Thanks for Coming out. Yeah, so back in 2019, the Texans were up 24 to nothing against the Chiefs. Yep. With 10 minutes left in the second quarter. Yep. They're up 24. Nothing. The final score. 51 to 31 Kansas City. That was crazy. They just poured it on them. They, they were down 24 nothing,

10 minutes left in the second quarter. The chiefs were winning at halftime. It's, it was crazy. That's, and that felt like that was right at the beginning of all of this happening and, and patch from homes to come in Patrick Holmes. He is also at how old is Patrick Holmes now? Is he what? Like 28 years old, maybe? Um, find his age he is if he wins this game he is tied Joe Montaise 29 years old Joe Montana for playoff wins it's crazy it's crazy 16 he's still got a long way to go Tom Brady has 35 but I was looking at it I think if he wins this game he has something like more playoff wins than I think it's like 10 or 11 franchises mm-hmm personally. Yeah, the graphics are gonna be crazy. Yeah, so it's

He's just so goddamn good. You can't forget about Patrick Rose now. Also, he gets the baby bump. Yep. So he welcomed a third child gold golden Ray Mahomes, who they're all three of their children are bronze silver gold. who I they're all three of their children are bronze silver gold mm-hmm it's kind of crazy that he waited for the third one to be named gold yeah bronzes of I think bronze is the second one because it's Patrick the third is his son so he's technically his nicknames bronze and then that makes sterling sterling sky is silver and then golden ray Listen people do whatever they want with their names. I mean, it's you know, yeah, I think when you're I think The wealthier you get the crazier you get with your name. So Andy Reid calls the Sun 3 p.m 3 p.m. For kids Patrick is 2 p.m. And then that's 3 p.m. Yeah, do whatever you want with your names I always thought that naming your kids various types of cheeses would work out well too. Yeah.

You got Colby, Jack, Pepper, Monte, Brie. Yep. Gouda. Gouda. Gouda. Who could forget baby Gouda? American. Sharp cheddar.

American. Yeah. Yeah. White American. White American. Yeah, white American. This is my son, white American. That actually rocks. White American. This is my son, white American. That actually rocks. White American. Uh, actually

I get to name a, a litter of puppies for paws. Oh, no, because we won that, uh, that auction at the pause gala. I might just go all cheeses. We should go all cheeses. Various types of cheeses for dogs. Yeah. Uh, let's, let's at least say something nice about the Texas. I do think their defenses, they won't get rolled over by the Chiefs. Their defense is elite. I'm just nervous about the Texans offense because it hasn't been good this year. And it's, there's a lot of, there's a lot of data behind them just not being very good. And in a game against the Chiefs, you pretty much have to play perfect to stay in this

game. Now they did stay in the game when they played. What was it like four weeks ago? That was the game Tank Dell got hurt. Did they only lose by seven? I want to say. Yeah, it looked it looked close in the first quarter and a half. I want to say. Yeah, so I don't. But the Texas defense is capable of stepping up their game to a point where they can they can frustrate really good quarterback. Correct. We saw that uh with the bills and the chiefs offensive line is not great. That is another area of weakness. So I do those and the tech or bills and the uh the

lions right. The bills, the lions, the dolphins, the chargers, the texas defense took those all those teams uh and made their their offense look significantly worse than it is against everyone else. I just it is against everyone else. I just it's just Patrick Holmes. That's the thing that I just keep going back to. Yeah, they lost by eight in the meeting they had a month ago. So I'm not I'm not saying the Chiefs are gonna it's gonna be a cakewalk. I just keep looking at this eight and a half and I'm like, it feels like a game the Chiefs are going to be up by seven for the majority of the game. And then at the end,

you know, go on one of those patented late second half Chiefs drives where they just burn clock in a bunch of third down conversions, either kick a field goal or score a touchdown to win by 10 or 14. Yeah, do you think there's any additional pressure on Patrick Mahomes? Now that his brother's biggest source of income has dried up with a tick-tock ban. Hmm Like now he now Patrick Holmes is the breadwinner in that family at all Jackson Holmes was independently wealthy Hmm, and now it's like all on his shoulders Travis Kelsey, maybe new heights not I like memes thrown. Do you see memes tweet last night? Just showing some podcast charts What do you say just bragging on our behalf? I like that Which we don't really brag about it, but it was nice that Just bragging on our behalf. I like that. Which we don't really brag about it But it was nice that memes bragged on our behalf

Yeah, just showed the rankings and it was us one and then we had two out of the top three episodes as well So that's a that's just memes being a good a good soldier for us. Also all respect to the Kelsey guys Oh, yeah, I like both of them a lot. Like I mean Jason Kelsey is Max's vision board. Yeah. I mean, would it be his hall pass? Maybe I technically, I think your hall pass max goes to sleep every night looking at a picture of Jason Kelsey. Like this is, this is my goal for tomorrow to do that. No, I like both Kelsey's. I also think that this is going to be three Kelsey's. Oh yeah. Kylie. Yeah. Uh, I do think this is where and mama and mama

Kelsey. No one talks about dad. It's bullshit. It really is bullshit. I do think this is where Travis Kelsey ramps it up. Like I like his over yards. I think this is he, he, he plays in a second gear for the majority of the regular season. And then when you get to these points, the two things that I always look to is my home's rushing yards in the playoffs and Travis Kelsey yards because that is when they need a big play It's Travis Kelsey or Mahomes using his feet. Yeah, and we've seen it time and time again And I think that's exactly what's gonna happen on Saturday. I like CJ Stroud rushing yards, too I like last week that hit and you go back to back when he was in college

Yeah in that playoff game. Everybody's like, oh shit, CJ can run. Yeah. He can use his feet. I think he'll do it again. That might also just be a product of plays breaking down sometimes around him. And he's not, I think the Chiefs defense is gonna do a very, very good job shutting him down.

Yeah. But yeah, I like the Chiefs. Do it, now if the, so I wanna, I don't wanna, cause we've obviously put a lot of love on the Chiefs, even though I'm sure there love on the Chiefs even though I'm sure there'll be some Chiefs fans being like all you guys do is suck off Josh Allen And you know you never mentioned and Jared Goff never mentioned Patrick Holmes who is the best quarterback in the NFL even though? Statistically he wasn't this year. You'd still take him 1-1 the Texans

Hank make us a case Defense makes a play. Okay. Control the ball on offense. Joe Mixon. Two touchdowns. Own time possession. Got to get lucky. That's a good game plan.

Yeah. Yeah. Can we get a keys to the game for Hank? The cold card. Cold. The cold is is is I don't like that. Isn't it weird that I don't. this probably just goes all the way back to candy-ass uniforms, but like, if you told me it was cold for Miami, I'd be like, they have zero chance. For some reason, I'm like, Texans might still have a little bit of a chance.

Yeah, I don't know about that. Houston, Dome... Yeah, I know, it's... I'm admitting that it's completely based on the candy-ass uniforms. Not really a dome, though. They open up the roof a lot and NRG. Yeah, they do. Yeah from time to time So there you go snows like an inch in Houston like the world shuts down. That's true. That is that's a fact I can't handle they can't handle it. We can say max. I feel like D'Amico Ryan's feels like a cold weather coach Yeah, that might be it. Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's very opposite Mike McDaniel. Yeah, that might be it. Yeah. It's very opposite. Mike McDaniel. Yeah. It's the bald head. I think there's something about him feels like he can, he

can coach in the cold. There's a toughness about yes. Yeah. Yeah. The Texans are also wearing Joe Mixon is the key to the game. Okay. And they'll get lucky. Well yeah, that's, that's just a playoff though. And also keep Patrick Mahomes off the field. Yeah. Yeah. By Joe mix it score. Those one in one and three are basically the field. Yeah, yeah. By Joe mix it score those one and one and three are basically the same. Let me give you another key to the game. Somehow hope that Carson Wentz his name started quarterback. Hank, what would you say? Would you say it's a key to game for the Texans to get sevens instead of threes? Not necessarily. Oh, you stop giving away all my keys to the game. Oh, shit. I've been teasing this all week

Fumble you got it. You got a you got to have a Turnover at the luck. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah lucky turn over six pick six kick return touchdown punt block Can we stop can we I'm not gonna have any more keys? No, my keys are my keys are completely different but but those are valid keys. Those are huge keys. Yeah, but the Texans also wearing all white uniforms, which led to a lot of infighting amongst the Texans fan base, whether or not they should be excited about this. I found a great interaction underneath the official tweet about it from AstrosFade.

We've never won a playoff game in all white. What are we doing? Texas uniform tracker replies, to be fair, we've never won any playoff game in all white. What are we doing? Texas uniform tracker replies. To be fair, we've never won any playoff game in white jerseys, regardless of pants. And then sad Astros posts to be fair, we've never won any divisional playoff game. And then Astros fade replies and then Astros fade replies. We've never won a road playoff game in general. So he's got to be the white pan. You drill down a little bit and you find out it might not be the white pants. Yeah. If this game was at home, we need, we need the Texans next year to somehow get, uh, like a two or three seed and wear white pants at home in the divisional round.

And then we can kind of then we can park out. Yeah. Exactly where we're going wrong with the Yeah, exactly where we're going wrong with the uniform choices. Yeah. Okay. Let's do the next game. Commanders at Lions. Lions are nine and a half point favorites. Over under is 55 and a half. PFT, you've been teasing your keys to the game, so I'll let you take it.

Okay. My keys to the game. Should I write these down? Yeah. Okay. You should. Hold on. Hold on.

Number one. By the way, people were asking what I was writing down during our vagina Conversation last week on Wednesday I was drawing a vagina to see if I get hard just looking at just a vagina big cat does take notes during episodes Yeah, all right here. We go all right keys to the game number one Fuck them up We got to beat the fuck out of now would you? You can't say four quarters of fuck you football because that's Notre Dame But would you like them to play four quarters of fuck you football?

I'd like to play five quarters of fucking football because you gotta be ready for 110% fuck fuck them up Really really fuck everybody up Number two kill everyone kill everyone especially on defense women and children We put. Women and children. Put the women and children to bed. That's that's key to a okay. Number three, Jaden Daniels. Yep. I think that one I'm gonna you know what I'm gonna do for that one. I'm gonna underline it. Okay, underscore. Yeah. And number four, the fourth and final key to the game. I absolutely need an incredible hype video.

Yep. And I'm talking, this has to be the best hype video that I've ever seen. Yes. There's a lot of, I might make my own hype video. I think I need the best one you've ever seen. But I'm going to make- Oh man, what a shot.

I'm going to make- That was so mean, P.A.P. I'm gonna make the best hype video you've ever seen. Don't let him talk to man. What a shot. I'm going to I was so mean I'm gonna make the best hype video You've ever seen don't let him talk to that. Yeah, I'll do like Hank. Hank's a loser Don't like talk to you. Hey, you're not even in the place. You don't know shit about hype videos. Oh I'm gonna make the best hype video. I've already got an idea for it as a matter of fact Well, if he makes a hype video probably the best hype video he's ever made Ever made is ever made ever seen he's ever made. I, probably the best hype video he's ever made. Ever made is ever made. Ever say he's ever made.

I'm talking the best hype video of all time. ACDC with like no glitter. No, no, no, no. Hater. It's going to be. I'll just I think it's got to be fix you by Coldplay. Oh, I think it's got to start. I don't know about that. Oh, yeah. Wait, is this after they lose and like you're remembering them

No, you know you're like in remembrance fix you start sad and then it's like when you're lost out there And then you got pictures like Dan Snyder you got picture. Okay, yeah That's got picture the stadium raining shit on fans You got okay that word you try your best, but you don't succeed and then it's picture like the Shawn Taylor statue. That's not even a statue. It's all the bad stuff and then it goes ding lights will Do as Jayden Daniels walk out of the tunnel? Yeah, I'm getting drafted at that point and Ignite I will try I fix you done I fix you done. I know no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no exciting at the end but that's when you show like the winning the Super Bowl. Like let's go win it. But for the hype video needs to be like, that's not a fire me up song. You don't know shit about hype videos, this is my vision. This is not, I'm a swerve in that corner whoa. No it needs to be like Iron Maiden and shit.

Run for the hills. That was my first job here was hype making hype videos. Really? What was your best work? I did them for you. Dugs. I knew that. I knew that. I knew that shit. Can't you just let me enjoy my vision. You do your videos your way.

Were you texting them to me? No, I would text them to Hank and Hank would text them to you. Oh, that's the problem. Hank was taking credit for it. No, I wasn't. Yeah, he was. No, I wasn't. He was taking all the credit.

Do we have a hype video guy now at Barstool? The Quigs. Quigs. Alisek makes some good ones. No, we don't talk about him anymore. I'll talk to Quigs and we'll work on it. But right now I feel like just let me follow my vision, which is Coldplay. I think people I think this should be a fan submitted one now because like you were just taking credit If you if Quigs makes it might be good If Quigs makes it makes it might be good It makes it will be good

I'm gonna make the greatest you don't think I can do it. He can direct it. Yeah Is what I was doing with Max. It's a PFT joint Like here you go, I do like once every six videos that I made. That was bullshit. And probably whenever he said that it was because I said it. I was like I want this song. That's probably true. Yeah. I played a lot of Call of Duty back then. He was just being the middle man. Uh 50 you should just do fan submitted because now you'll have like a hundred hype videos and one of them is going to be an absolutely incredible. Like people are going to make this now whether you ask them to or not. Well I let me do the Coldplay one and then but I am interested in watching all the hype Okay

Like that's to me that is a key for my game is to just you gotta have great hype videos going this week because it's us against the world Washington versus everyone. That's what they're saying about this game. I So my take on this game and this is a compliment I Think the Lions are going to fucking kill them but I can't bet them because of Jaden Daniels because I keep thinking in the back of my head like but what if Jaden Daniels does something crazy like the Lions are better

and there should they should the commanders play a lot of man coverage. Jerichoff is number one beating man coverage. I think Dave Montgomery is back. So I like keep going back like the Lions can name their score, but then I'm like, but Jayden Daniels and like everything that happens in the voodoo stuff. I don't think I can bet the, the, the Lions. So that way I can root for the commanders with a couple of weeks ago. I said, if we do, if we win our first round playoff game, it, we're going to be very lucky if the Lions don't score 70 points on us. Yeah.

Like the Lions have, they've got a great roster. They've got all the weapons. They've got an incredible offense. I was shocked to learn that the commander's rushing offense is actually better than the Lions rushing attack. Oh, wow. It doesn't feel like that though, does it? No.

But I guess you got to take into account Jaden's legs. Yeah. He's been a big part of that. Montgomery coming back, I'm more afraid of Gibbs. Like I'm, I know that Montgomery's a great running back, but if you were to say, are you more afraid of a healthy dose of Jameer Gibbs or splitting time with him and David Montgomery coming off a PCL, an injury that people thought was going to be season ending. I'm okay with Montgomery and Gibbs splitting carries.

I just think that our past defense has to step up. Latimore's healthy, I guess. I don't know. I think there's going to be on defense. I think we're going to have a lot of moments where Lions receivers are running completely untouched somewhere down the field. Did you know that our past defense is third is ranked third? That doesn't feel right either, does it? No, the commander's past defense. I don't know. I don't know how that works out. But Yeah, I I want to believe in the commanders if it becomes if it's a one score game in the fourth quarter That's what I'm saying. We win this game. Yeah, I think yeah

But then you have to wonder what happens in the first three quarters like but I mean think about the Bears Went into Detroit and basically beat the Lions on Thanksgiving. Yeah. Like, they've had games where they look human. The last month or so, they have not. They've looked incredible. Our offensive line has done a much better job, especially with our center coming back, Piotr.

Sam Cosme is playing really, really well. So I realize I haven't talked about any of those guys. I've just been focusing on Jaden. But we've had our, our team has stepped up. We play, we play weird games. We will not blow anybody out. We'll be lucky to keep it within a score because Detroit is so, so good. But if we can keep it within a score, Jayden Daniels can go out there and win the game. Yeah. And the, and the lions, buttholes might get tight. Lions, buttholes might get tight. Lions buttholes might get tight. The other thing I would say is, Aaron Glenn, his defenses usually struggle with mobile quarterbacks.

Like Justin Fields used to give them fits. And he's had that happen multiple times, not just once. So Jayden Daniels might be able to use his legs significantly on Saturday. What are you looking up, Max? This pass defense thing? For some reason I've clicked on four different things and set four different websites, set four different things. Is it EPA or what did you, is it yards?

Passing yards, I don't know. I saw a couple things and it had us listed as the third best pass defense and I was very confused by it. Like Max, when I said that out loud, it doesn't sound right Does it I mean this says third year. I'm I don't know what I'm looking at That's yards per game. Yeah, but then this one I feel like I'm also looking at yards break. Oh wait, that's postseason Get together with the number three pass defense in the postseason That's a much different step, but that's not the case because I think we're like the number 30 rush defense I the only thing I would say about that is the Lions are not like everyone else you played on the schedule. Yeah, correct. So that would be

The lot they're just really fucking good. Yeah, and but I well the Eagles pass defense is pretty good The Eagles pass defense. Yes, and we put some points on them. Yeah. No, I was saying the Lions offense. Oh, right. Your past defense versus the Lions offense. The Lions offense is in that level of just, I think it's essentially the Bills and the Ravens. Those are the three teams where it does feel like whenever they want to score, they're just gonna score.

We're gonna see ultimate Dans in this showdown. Yeah. Dan Quinn, Dan Campbell, both going forward on fourth downs all the time to alpha dudes And it's crazy because the history of these franchises at least, you know recent history Tress way for the commanders has been a great punter I went out there. I bought a punters jersey He was the only bright light on the team for a while and then Jack Fox on the Lions great punter Now neither one of those guys is being used. They were both in weird ways, like the best player on each team.

Yeah. But yeah, there's going to be a ton of punts, or excuse me, a ton of going for it on fourth down in this game. Not a lot of punts. One thing about the Lions defense, they are the fourth worst in the NFL at allowing explosive plays. So explosives, they allow on 12.4% of snaps. Now, the only counter to that would be

they did miss Alex Anzaloni for majority of their season. He does wear the green dot. So getting everyone in the places they need to be, you saw it against the Vikings. But yeah, their defense is obviously the weakness. You could make this a shootout. And I feel like when you make a game a shootout, it really is the randomness obviously the weakness. You could make this a shootout. And I feel like when you make a game a shootout, it really is the randomness of the game.

Like if you're a nine point underdog, and you can score like the commanders can score, all you need is like one interception, one weird thing to happen to the Lions, almost like breaking serve in tennis. Yeah, I'm going into this weekend thinking there's a very good chance that this is the end of the run. And if it is, what a great run it's been.

No regrets. It's been an incredible season. But I do think that there's a path. I think that it don't write us up. Don't write us off because if it's a one score game, we can go out there and win the game. And the top seeds are 11 and seven in playoff games since the format changed. So it's not like getting the one seed is like automatic. You're gonna go to the Super Bowl.

Yeah, I think the Lions, I don't know. I just feel like let's go 40. I've said all year the Lions are the best team in the NFC. Are you gonna take the commanders? I'm gonna take the commander's spread. Okay. And probably the over and just, cause that's the only way the commanders win. There's max left hand up left hand up

Let's go. I love that max. Let's go commies. You're the man. No commies. I love Max. You've always been on my side Always let's talk about your game max Rams Eagles Eagles minus six over under forty three and a half. Let's first say max. How did uh, how did the say Max, how did, uh, how did the class go? So you have, you have karma all the way back on your side by the way, because we also got a little more into the story of the Eagles fan versus the Packers fan. The Eagles or the Packers fan, and this doesn't excuse calling, you know, a woman, a cunt in the, in the crowd, but the guy who was who whose wife was called that he essentially did a go fund me to try to get money to go to the game and it was like an antagonize and like you go and film it so it kind of is one of those

situations where like everyone's a shithead except for the woman who just she's somehow a pawn in all this and like was the one who got disrespected she's like bait yeah the guy has been taken to the game the Packers fans sucks, too So we but the Packers fan did go fun me probably to get all the way across the country from Wisconsin to Philadelphia You see this game right Max. No, he lived an hour outside Fun me for a car ride. Oh my god That for a go fund me for a car ride. Oh my god So yeah doing a go fund me as just like a normal crazy and them dude to go to a football game is

In scene insane, especially one down the street. Yeah, it's like the name of the website though. That was what I the funniest go for me I saw was a few months ago some guy like got busted at a fish concert for selling It was it was something like, you know, hundreds of tabs of acid, like a shitload of ecstasy, nitrous and all this stuff. And he did a GoFundMe for like legal stuff. And people were just coming to like, dude, he he was a drug dealer. He sold those drugs. Like, I know that, you know, we all want to party. But yeah, I think the GoFundMe should go to someone, you know, a kid with cancer. El Chapo does a GoFundMe. I need to re-up.

Yeah. But yeah, that, I think you've been vindicated, especially with your class. So how'd it go? Yeah, I took the class. It was a four hour class. I learned some good information, learned a lot about the Lincoln financial field and the security around it. However, big Dom got hurt, hurt about me taking this class and was not, and was unhappy. What'd he say? I don't know if he was unhappy. He was, he was concerned that he was concerned. You got kicked out for something. Yeah, no, he thought I got, he thought I got kicked out of the game on Sunday. Did you explain it to him? Yep. I texted, I told him the whole thing and he was like, wait, how

do you find out about this? And he said, I was tweeting about it. I had first thought that there was like an, an alert that, that there was an alert that would like go to his desk or something as soon as the test, which I thought would have been way funnier. But someone just like sent him his tweet. He was like, what happened to you this week? So Max, you were saying that you were kind of panicking and you weren't sure if you explained it correctly in your text back because you were very nervous about what to write back to Big Dom. So let's just clear the air right now and reset.

This Eagles fan was caught on video last week saying bad stuff. Max, as a great representative of the city of Philadelphia, decided that he was going to get some good karma back, show that Philadelphia Eagles fans are passionate, but they're not all assholes. So Max took the course that the NFL offers for fans who have been kicked out of the stadium to learn more about empathy and appropriate stating behavior in order to get all the good vibes back on the city of Philadelphia. Correct. I was just trying to do my part. Yeah. Trying to do my part. I do love the

idea of Big Dom having a fax machine next to his desk. Yeah, that's okay. And just every person who has to sign up for it, and it just, all it spit out was just a piece of paper that just said, Max, in your picture. He's like, what the hell? I know, that's what I was really. My paisan.

So watch on PMTV, but Max, what did you learn? You know, you always have to put yourself in the shoes of an opposing fan. Like if you were going into an opposing stadium, how would you want to be treated? Curse words are not allowed at any moment. So use of foul language, disappointing. Drinking it was a lot of drinking. It was a lot about the rules of how much you can drink, what your blood alcohol level will look like

if you are drinking, what can happen if your blood alcohol gets to a certain level. Stress management, that was another one. It talked a lot about stress. You need that. Yeah. Yeah. That's big.

It was not only, if things are going poorly in your life you can be stressed out, but also if things are going well in your life, you can be stressed out, but also if things are going well in your life, you can be stressed out. So that's another thing about stress, and that can cause people to say things that they shouldn't be saying. Did they give, like, did they do thought exercises

where it's like it's third and 10 and Jalen Hurts runs to the right and throws it 20 20 feet out of bounds Like what are you thinking? No, they did not they did not do that Run a simulated game for you. No, you're down. You're down by 17 points and AJ Brown's reading a book. What do you say? Yeah Well, that was a motivational book that keeps him locked in Jake Elliott misses third P PAT of the day. That I'm worried about. I'm so worried about that. I'm worried about that as well.

Andy Swan had a great idea. It was dress MMA fighters as opposing fan bases. So if you go, if you go to like Lincoln financial field, have an MMA fighter dressed up in all Packers gear and then have somebody get in a fight with them and then those guys get their ass kicked by the MMA fighter. I like that. I like that. So let's talk about the game Max. It's got to be a Saquon game. Jalen Hurts has to get out of the concussion protocol and your defense has to win this game because I don't know about your offense. Assess those.

I disagree. It's going to be cold. You're just going to pound the rock. Our offense will be good. I did have that question. How long do you have to live in warm weather before you get soft? Because Matthew Stafford, he played in his only cold game, only game under 40 degrees in the last three years was the game against the Jets a month ago where they won 19 to 9 and they did not look good. He obviously played in Detroit, had to play in NFC North, go to Soldier Field, go to Lambeau. Is there an amount of time that you get soft?

Yes. How quickly? Two years. Two summers. Two summers. Especially the older you get. The older you get, too. The joints, they don't do as well in the cold Yeah, two summers your first summer You're like, you know those videos of when they have a monkey and it sees the outdoors for the first time because it's been kept

In a lab for its entire life. Yeah, I've been like in the grass. Yeah. Oh shit. This is awesome That's your first summer in warm weather. You're like, this is incredible. Holy shit. You lived in Texas I just as you were saying that yeah, you know from first-hand you were saying then. Yeah. You know, from first hand experience here. Yeah, yeah, no, I got real soft. I got real soft over the course of like nine years down there to the point where I moved to New York and I was like, what the fuck is going on? And now it's the flip where I think tomorrow

it's gonna be 40 degrees in Chicago. It's like, I might wear shorts. Yeah, now I'm hard. Yeah. I was soft, now I'm hard. But I think after your second summer, then you just expect nice weather all the time. Nice weather all the time, Yeah. So that will be big. Matthew Stafford older, doesn't, you know, doesn't play well in cold weather. The other thing I like about this matchup, Max,

is the Rams are somehow worse than the Eagles in starting games, which is pretty hard to do, but the Rams are 30th in first quarter scoring and 23rd in first half scoring So that's you know, the Eagles have started slow It's they should have well damn. I mean they they got a fumble seven seconds of the game Yeah, that's that's the opposite of starting so I understand but that fumble doesn't happen They have maybe three points at most in the first half great touchdown pass. Jahan Dotson, right? Did happen but your office like shit in the first half. Great touchdown pass, Jahan Dotson, right away. Great touchdown pass. It did happen.

But your offense looked like shit in the first half. Did it not? They scored in the first two minutes of the game. Yeah. It was 10-0 like that. Mm-hmm. Defensive, great. I think your defense is gonna win this game.

And I also, Vic Fangio against, it's small sample size, but he played them this year. The Rams scored 20 points. And then the famous game in 2018 when the Rams were just ripping through everyone and they came to soldier field and Vic Fangio is the DC and they scored six points I think Vic Fangio is gonna have he's gonna dial some shit up N'Kobe Dean being out is a worry that that's really my only worry on the defensive side of the ball we're gonna have Orrin Birch's who's did not look great. He's the one side of the ball. We're gonna have Orrin Birks, who did not look great.

He's the one who had the fumble on the kickoff to start the game, but defensively, he did not look great last week. And then Jeremiah Trotter Jr. is rumored to be getting a bunch of snaps this weekend, and he's a rookie and hasn't gotten any playing time. So that's, N'Kobe Dean's the play caller, the middle linebacker that is the leader on the team

and not having him is gonna be worrisome for the defense, but I still like our guys. I think your offensive line will do a great job going up against one of the Rams' strengths. We'll just, if you were to say Rams' defensive line, probably one of the better units out there, but the Eagles' offensive line, I think can neutralize them a little bit.

Are you ever nervous on punts? I know you love Cooper DeGene, but are you nervous the way that he fields punts? Yes. Every single... We watched the game together on Sunday. Every single time I just say, just catch it, just catch it. Don't, don't... Punts are the...

Returning punts is the scariest play in football for me because I feel it has to be the highest percent Percentage play of turnover. Yeah, like it's very easy to turn the ball over on a punt and it completely changes the game Because it's 60 yards of field position or whatever that number is Just hold on to the football get the ball back to the offense run the rock win the game play good defense Don't turn the ball over run the rock win the game Love that. Keys to the game. Are you gonna go hair down or up?

Ummmmmmm hmmm. You won against the Packers with hair down. But I put it up right before halftime because they went into that lull. Oh so you gotta go up. So I think I maybe start I think like the first couple drives are gonna be down because that. Can I make a request? Yep. No pigtails.

Overalls? Nailed it. Come on. Yep. You have the Eagles overalls. The people want the Eagles overalls. Everybody's been asking for the Eagles. You teased them last year and he never wore the overalls.

You gotta wear the overalls for them. Yeah, but if they lose, think of how the overalls for the year but if they lose Think of how bad of a look that will be if they lose and I exactly for you. It'll be a good look But ego Philly fans will be so mad at me. So you're just never gonna wear these overalls. No, I'll wear them No, I don't think that you will you have to wear them now or never because you're not gonna want to win her now Super Bowl Yeah, you gotta work them in you should have worked them in the regular season that was a big mistake Yeah, I know I should have but even I there was so many times. I thought about it during the regular season and I was like

Well, what if they lose then then I then it's a bad look Here's what you should do you should wear the overalls and maybe wear a hoodie over it for the first half I don't hate that. Yeah. I don't hate that. Work it in slowly. Work it in. Yeah. Okay.

I like that. I like that. If things are going well, you go overalls, then you have the overalls for the NFC championship. If Philly fans listening to this are mad at me and I get an overwhelming response of do not wear the overalls, I can't wear the overalls. No, I think you wear them, put the hoodie on over and if, if it's going good, then you can, you know, you can demonstrate. And then if it's going poorly, you can also take the hoodie off to switch up the juju. It gives you a multiplicity. Okay. Well, multiplicity in their attack. All right. I like it. I like it. Yeah. Okay.

Complementary overalls. Yeah. Uh, okay. The last game, best game. Ravens and Bills. Bills are underdogs, they're 1.5 point underdogs, the overrunner is 51.5. I'm so excited for this game. I've been trying, I think everyone knows that we're, I think everyone in this room wants the Bills to win because it would be awesome if they went to the Super Bowl. I think the Ravens are probably the better team overall. So I've been trying to make a case for it in my head that the Bills can win this game. Here's my case. The Bills defense in the first matchup was not, they didn't have guys. They didn't

have Milano, Johnson, who I think is in concussion protocol right now, and Bernard. All those guys should help with the run. The Zay Flowers looks like he's not gonna play. And the last thing is the Ravens defense has been incredible in the last half of the season right? I did look back and in the last five games this is DVOA who they played. They played the Browns who the 32nd defense or sorry offense The Texans were the 26 the Steelers the 19th the Giants the 28th and the Eagles the 13th They're only lost the Bills are obviously a top five offense and so maybe there's a little inflation of numbers I don't fully believe everything. I'm saying I was just trying to make the case. Okay. Here's another bit of data point for you

I'm all over the weather this weekend Eight degrees in Buffalo in Orchard Park the coldest game that Lamar Jackson's ever played guess what it was 35 27. Oh, so kind of cold. Yeah, this is eight degrees is very different and he said he wasn't going gloves Yeah, but this is eight degrees is very different and he said he wasn't going gloves Also Lamar in their earlier matchup this season the temperature was like 60 and he was wearing a hoodie and a beanie for it Yeah, I don't know that Lamar loves the cold Brown County Broward County I think that it is a very different team that the Buffalo Bills have right now home field advantage gonna make a huge difference I have no idea who's going with the game absolutely no idea. I've been trying to figure it out too. I think I'm gonna bet the over. I'm gonna bet for football. I'm gonna I'm gonna

root for good football. No idea who's gonna win this game. I don't know if they can stop Derek Henry. The Ravens are a much more complete team. The Bills have Josh Allen as an all-pro Nobody else as an all-pro But that said I don't know I feel like the Bills are playing their best football right now Yeah, I just want both quarterbacks to play out of their mind and have one of those classic games where? It just comes down to whoever has the ball last I'm so excited for this game. Yeah, Hank you. Think the Ravens are gonna kill no. Oh I'm gonna both go in I want the bill so in yeah But I do I do think the Ravens on you know in totality or the better team and Lamar's been out of his mind

Lamar's probably win another MVP might be his best season ever He's an incredible incredible quarterback and he's you know, he last week in a playoff game was awesome And he's, you know, he last week in a playoff game was awesome. Um, yeah, I I'm rooting for the bills, but I, I, this is going to be a tough game. I was shocked to find out that Jim Nance, I think the weather matters more in the playoffs. Yeah. We'll give it credit for it to be a point.

Yeah. And Josh Allen, he loves that cold. Yeah. So Jim Nance is quote, stoked for this game. Oh, I never thought that Jim Nance was capable of being stoked. Did he say that with a Stussy shirt on? He said it twice. He said, I am stoked for this matchup. As the Cali in him. How old are Jim Nance's kids? That's definitely he just found out his kid is like 12. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And he lives in Cali. Tony. No,

I think he does have I think he remarried and has a younger kid and he's probably a Cali teen Tony I'm stoked. No cap brah magic. He dropped a brah Mar has an incredible rise bro. He did not just do that fam and Lamar Jackson, bro. He's different. He's different Tony You just you just don't know how to spell Jim Nance's name, Max. Daughter born in 2014, son born in 2016. Okay, so he's got a 10 year old and a nine year old. He probably, yeah. That's getting there. I mean, nine is a nine year old, maybe skating.

Yeah. He's getting those words, stoked. Yeah, Tony, you know, he's famous for calling plays before they happened. Last week, he called that they were gonna get this game. At the end of the last game, he's like like can't wait to be up in Buffalo next week and I don't know if the network executives got bullied into making that the Nance No, it was always gonna be Jim Nance and Tony Romo. It was always always

We're gonna say I don't know if kids still say stoked. Oh they don't I That seems like kind of I don't know what they do. Yeah. So maybe I would I would assume that stoked is probably out of oh Vernacular I was not saying that I'm in vernacular. Yeah, no, I'm I was a silly they say so I was assuming that stoked was big in like the 90s maybe early 2000s That's what I'm thinking then it went out and I was assuming that maybe it just started to come back I think Callie. I think Cali is just part of the language Definitely some Cali AWLs hit us up. Do you still say stoked? I feel like they still say hella, too

Hello this Twitter account that is just covers the world of ski lifts said so stoked to be adding Norway map That that sounds like a universal I could also see Jim Nance being big time into skiing Yeah, he probably spends a month in Aspen each offseason stoked Okay, I'm so excited for this game after the game tribute to our darling Jake Marsh I Predict sportsmanship of the year I predict the handshake between Lamar and Josh is going to include some form of now go out there and win the big one.

Win it all. Go take care of it. Go beat the bad man. Go beat the bad man. Yeah. Okay. Should we do our parlays? Because we have them. Very close last week with the Jaden Daniels having the kneel down, that hurt. But we are, you guys are going to do the commander's lines. We'll do the Eagles Rams,

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And now here's Chris Long. Okay, we now welcome on our very, very, very good friend. It is two time Super Bowl champion, Chris Long. You can see him on his podcast, which is incredible. Anyone who loves ball should be watching, listening to the green light with Chris Long. He's also doing a bunch of media inside the NFL. He's everywhere. He's everywhere. It is Chris Long. Chris, we wanted you, we've been trying to get you on for a couple of weeks. It was my fault on a lot of the scheduling, but no, no, well that was kind of my fault too. I was like, oh, I have a procedure I'm going under. Yeah. Then I showed up to the doctor's office. They're like, no, it's

just a consultation. Yeah. You didn't eat for an entire day before Just a mess over here, but it's good to see all yes great first guest and part of my take history, right? Yeah, I was gonna point that out, but I don't want to my own whore. That's that's a big deal It's a fact. Yeah, so bad. Why did you ever come back? Because You guys became really popular. Yeah Nine year anniversary coming up I feel like you came on part of my take and we were so bad that you were like I have to start a podcast because these fucking assholes are doing when I'm way better, dude I just remember it was so fun because like we got my dad on I like I was doing it on my phone

I think or made my laptop. It was like 2000 and what what you're saying? Yeah So we were in the dark ages of technology, but I was doing it in my living room, my dad came to the door mid interview and I got Howie on the pod and I was like, hey, it's the guys from Pardon My Take and he was like, oh cool. It's a podcast that doesn't exist yet.

Awesome. Yeah, you're gonna be sorry and now he's been on your show. Yeah, and now full circle. All right, so let's talk some ball because you know the NFL better than anyone, play off football better than anyone I want to go through every game and we already taped our preview

The Texans versus the Chiefs and I have to say we didn't really Give a path for the Texans So, I don't know if you see this game differently, but we didn't give a full path for the Texans to win this game We just kind of were like Patrick Mahomes is Patrick Mahomes and this is what he does, especially in the divisional round. I hope it's not a blowout as a fan, because if it is, you're gonna be like,

damn, we're gonna have maybe, maybe, sorry, PFT, maybe two blowouts Saturday. Bolton, I don't know. I'm hoping that both of them are close, honestly. But here's the path. The path is now they've got Aziz Al Shire back, who is legitimately a leader for them and patrol in the middle of the field. Next to nobody's fastest him at the linebacker position. You also get Christian Harris. They played together for the

first time, I think all year last week. So two really good players in the middle. I like the corners. The corners played really well. And also for the Chiefs in that game, like they just got Hollywood Brown back, right? And to me, that gave them a new look that maybe Houston wasn't ready for. So not saying it's gonna be closed. But the path is if they can take care of them at home scrambles, which they didn't in that first game that killed them, they can keep it, they can keep it closer.

They had a chance in that game. You remember when they got the ball at midfield after Tank Del got hurt? Yep. And they were all just like, they were crushed. You know, that really, some injuries you can kind of move on from, I felt like that one kind of killed them.

But they got the ball at midfield with a chance after stopping Kansas City on fourth down to take the lead, I believe. And they weren't ready for the moment. They botched a screen, Schultz drops and out. And you're like, you know what? This Kansas City team has been here in this game a thousand times. Houston has not. And I think that was really apparent watching in the first game. We'll see if they got better. Yeah. We always make the case because you know, people will say,

Oh, Kansas City is lucky and, and you know people will say oh, Ken city's lucky and and you know They get the flags and all that stuff and we don't know. Yeah, we've always been on the side of it's not luck It's the fact that they've been in all these situations And when you get and if you make a single mistake they will pounce on it And that's the difference through the championship team and a team. That's just a playoff team That's right And I think also when you watch like Kansas city's offense and it might be different now, they started to open things up a little bit more. I think part of that is having Joe at tackle Joe Tooney, who makes a big difference.

Like that left tackle spot was revolving door. They couldn't figure it out. At some point they said, Hey, we'll put a guard out here. Who's pretty good. He's an all pro at guard, but we'll put them out here because we're going to prioritize our best player being able to operate. And so I think what they were doing to that point was let's get into third and manageable, which they're so good at. If they're in third and three or third and four, you feel like you can't get off the field. And so I think that's the key to the game.

If I'm Houston, you kind of say, fuck it. Like, let's be aggressive early, early downs, like getting behind the sticks a little bit. If they burn us, they burn us. But we'll see. I think the slow start is another, you know, little hopeful nugget for them. You know, the fact that the Chiefs haven't played and it feels like a month. And, you know, if you remember the last team to jump them in divisional round off a bye was Houston's totally's a totally different

team now. But you remember that game coincidentally on the way to New Orleans, that trip we were just talking about. Yeah. Yeah. That's 24 nothing in the second quarter. I watched her on the plane on the way to New Orleans. And then it was like immediately over after that moment. So as a defensive end, you were talking about like keeping them in the pocket, limiting the scrambling stuff. How has there ever been like a Gameplan that you've had going into a game where you're like, okay we've got a great idea of how we need to limit this quarterback and you get like really detailed with your preparation and then you get in The game and it absolutely does not work. Yeah, like any time we ever played a running quarterback like the coaches I mean and now it's more than norm like we're guys if you can't move

The coaches, I mean, and now it's more than norm, like where guys, if you can't move, there's not many like you. And so I think more guys are like Jayden, not many like Jayden Daniels, but we're third and short, some element of quarterback run is a threat. And I think with Mahomes, it's very unique because he drifts, if you watch him,

and it makes playing offensive line for him a little bit difficult. It's like best job in the world but he might be at nine yards he might be at 11 he might be at 12 he's gonna step up so rushing him is not as simple as like you know staying down the middle and power rushing a tackle which can piss the defensive end off when all week you hear we got a cage this guy right which is like, we got to keep him in the pocket. That kind of takes your fastball away. And a lot of times at the end of those games,

anyways, you get your throat ripped out by, you know, some quarterback that you gave him too long to throw the ball. And then the DC is yelling at you, like, why didn't you rush him? You know, so it's frustrating. And then you'll play guys who do the read option. You see like Lamar, you'd have coaches that would say, hey, just blow up the mesh, so it's frustrating. And then you'll play guys who do the read option. You see like Lamar

You'd have coaches that would say hey just blow up the mesh Get both of them. It's tackle two guys Physically impossible. Yeah, so you know that like just having a running quarterback You you allot so much time during the week to things that might not even happen You know to scenarios that might not come up and that can take you away from doing the meat and potatoes Mm-hmm makes sense. So you sound like you're on the Texans too Right. Well, inevitably I'm not gonna bet it like a nine-point favorite. That's not fun. Yeah, right, right Like, you know, I mean, I'll probably end up doing something stupid like a teaser or some dumb shit like that

So that's actually not about teased what you would tease him down to a point point and a half. You could tease Kansas City down. Yeah, then that means you probably got to find a dance partner and that's probably Detroit but Vegas knows a lot of teasers. Yeah, Saturday are going to be just that. Yeah, that's gonna be everyone's gonna keep it close Saturday. And I don't know, it could be this team. I don't know, it could be your guys. Yeah. So let's talk about that game. I gave my keys to the game already.

You probably know a little bit better. You're going to get a little more granular than I did. My keys to the game were basically just kill everybody. You said fuck them up and kill everybody. And then Jayden Daniels to beat the Detroit Lions. You have to be the Detroit Lions. Right. So you got to go for it every fourth down Yeah, right, which you guys are very good at I mean like you were 87% the other night before you got stopped. So it's probably down like 85 but on the season I think the key to this game is y'all got to get stops in the red zone like Detroit's gonna move the ball Can you can you get them to be like two or five in the red zone?

move the ball, can you can you get them to be like two or five in the red zone? Or you know, like there was a game last year versus Vegas where they totally shit the bed in the red zone. Like, can you recreate that that issue for them? I don't know that you can. It's just going to come down to being aggressive. And if Aaron Glenn wants to play so much man, I actually have a lot of faith in Jaden. You know, you got you're probably going to have to a lot of spy, right? And you know, you got you you're probably gonna have to a lot of spy Right and you can't take Anzaloni out of coverage. He's too good

You know, is it Jack Campbell? Is it somebody else? Like I don't know but Jaden Daniels with his legs I kind of feel like we're just we're just building a path for the underdogs here Yeah, not for Detroit is bludgeon them. Yeah, you know like David Montgomery. He's on track to play Yeah crazy. It's like nuts like This team is so tough everything they've been dealt this year. They've just dealt with it I mean and and and Dan Campbell you guys I I know you guys love him But as a football player the longer he coaches this team the more I'm impressed with him Yeah, I mean they really have not flinched all year long.

I got a question about the Detroit defense, and you can explain this a lot better than, we know that the green dot is important. Alex Zaloni comes back week 18, he puts a green dot back on. What, like explain it to us why it's so important and how much it can change if you lose the guy who is your defensive captain getting everyone in the right spot. Well look you get

home field advantage that's a big deal right like it's a big deal for a lot of reasons but it's really loud in the playoff game at home and you talk about communication like I remember being in St. Louis and we never played in the playoffs but there were a hundred instances of me screaming at James Larinaitis like, what the fuck is the call? Am I stemming? Like what's happening here? Like there he's like a, he's like a service agent on the phone. Like a bunch of people are calling him at the same time. Like whether it's me, the other D tackle, somebody needs a call in the secondary. We need to, we need to figure out what that call was tagged with. There's just a ton of like communication issues.

But then not only that, like he's a great cover guy. Right. And in the NFL now, you know, we kind of went through this thing where like backers not important. Coincidentally, running backs not important. They're important again. But backers are really important. You play and we're not talking about the commander so much, but any of these like souped up West Coast offenses

like you've got to have guys in the middle that are rangy and that can cover I mean like the Eagles we're gonna talk about them in a second They lose Nacoby Dean in a game where you know Matt Stafford is gonna be trying to chunk the intermediate intermediate part of the field all day long and you see it like when they Played Minnesota Minnesota gives up a lot of chunks in the middle field all day long and you see it like when they played Minnesota, Minnesota gives up a lot of chunks in the middle. Having a dominant backer in the middle of field. Like imagine if you have like, I'm not comparing Anzaloni, but to illustrate the importance of the position, Fred Warner changes the entire game, right? You know, and I think like for the Bills,

when we get to that game, one thing we'll talk about is they were down three backers in that first game. So it matters not just having the green dot but having good players in the middle field. Yeah. You think any chance the Lions break out the Todd Bowles defense, the double quarterback spy? Where Todd did that at one point. I've never seen that before.

I don't know. I don't know why. It doesn't really make a whole lot of sense. It didn't work. I don't know why Todd Bowles did a lot of things he did down the stretch. Like I was really disappointed in that box team. Like, I kind of you know, when you when you pick a team to win the division, you kind of get married to them. And you fall in love with them and you justify all their mistakes. And you're

like, well, that wasn't that bad with what they did in Dallas with the season on the line. Like they're better than that. But in the biggest game, they kind of pissed down their leg with procedural stuff. And the point I want to make is the commanders, they've won a lot of close games this this year, including that game. I mean, what when they beat Chicago, Stevenson was being an idiot. When they beat Atlanta, there was bad clock management by Raheem Morris. And then last

week, the Bs with the third and inches with the jet sweep that they drop on the ground like there's a lot of teams that have been fucking it up not taking anything away from the commanders in close games Detroit doesn't do that like there's well coached on both sides of the ball as any team in the league. Are you worried when you when you talk about the red zone obviously I assume that Dan Campbell's gonna keep coaching the way he's coached and anything fourth and four or less he's going to go for. Are you in the mindset? Cause I've seen people be like, Oh,

I can't wait till Dan Campbell fucks this up again in the playoffs. I've been a big believer in like, dude, he knows what he's doing. And it's also not a secret to his team. Like I think when we're sitting on our couch, like what is he doing? It's gonna be so deflating those guys in the huddle They know the like what he's going to do so they're prepared for it if they don't get it Dude, I think I think it's twofold like number one the schematic part of it, which is like the plays they're calling On fourth down are working Even when they don't execute it the plays were there last year in those big moments against San Francisco. It's like Shane Stiken last year with the division on the line

giving the ball to Gardner Minshew and throwing the ball in the flat. Right. And everybody second guess is the call, but it's the execution of the call. So the right calls are being made. And I think also you listen to his players after that game, their faith in his way of doing things was unwavering. And so like, that's a big part of it. And I liken it to like, if you have a dad who walks around beating guys up, and like, if he turns down a

fight, you're like, Dad, wait, that's not who you are. Right. I feel like every time Dan stares a fourth down in the eyes, like it's like a game of chicken and all his kids are watching and if he turns it down, they all look at him like, what the fuck was that about? Yeah. And this game is like literally my Dan could beat up your Dan. Yeah. My dad could beat up your dad. Yeah. And from a defensive perspective, like I know people will say like, oh, the defense must be deflated when they don't get the fourth down. I feel like the defense knows what the offense is going to do. Like that's part of it's complementary that they know you're going to probably steal a couple and you might have a couple where you get

put in a bad field position. Well, that's what it comes down to for me is like when you play Detroit and being on a defense, knowing it's a lot of the reason I think Greg Olson has spoken to this, like decisions to force a team to drive the length of the field or have to kick a field goal at the end of the game. Like what you do offensively dictates the tone of the next possession. The tone of a possession where an offense has four downs

is uneasy for a defense. Right. You know, like everything you do is different. And I think you're always in that mode playing them and it can create a lot of discomfort. That's why I think like early down pressure, you know, like when they play Buffalo, the reason Buffalo won that game is

cause they got them off the field like twice in the first half. And if you're to believe that the commanders are going to beat man coverage and run up some points, then all you have to do in this scenario to keep it close is get them off the field once or twice. The way you do that, in my opinion, is time up a blitz when they're going to play action and get Jared when he turns his back and try to cook some up on second down, get them in third and 12, get them in second and 13, something like that.

And then you got a shot. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's gonna be a very tough battle. The lines are obviously a great team. I think Dan Campbell has done a great job playing into the whole macho man Dan thing. And he throws like a lot of red meat out to the press a lot. He's like, yeah, I do pushups in the shower. That's where I work out. I don't he said he gets his workouts in when he's in the shower. He says, you know, he'll bite a kneecap off. We're going to drag you down. We're going to drown you. I think I'm more, I'm more concerned with like walking into the shower, try to get a shower shower if I'm like the O line coach I think in bands doing naked push-ups in the shower. I think he means like at home that he works

Not in the communal show again I don't I don't necessarily buy into everything that he says like that because I think he does a very good job of playing to This persona and then hoping people underestimate him Oh, and he's a super smart guy because if you look at how aggressive he is, he actually just goes for it when you're supposed to go for it based on math. So like he knows those numbers. He's the guy that like, you know, what you see is what you get. But there's also a totally different element to him as you just talked about him. Like think of who he learned from. Sean Payton is one of the

most aggressive guys in the NFL, like faking a punt last week, stuff like that, the Super Bowl, the onside kick. So he's got that like Sean Payton edge to him. And he's also got the intellect that comes with, Sean Payton's one of the greatest coaches to ever coach in my opinion. And he's so ball smart.

He got all those situational nuggets from him. And then he puts his very physical like caveman edge on it. And you kind of, I like the team to a Ferrari with mud tires. Like they can do anything. Go four wheel drive, they can go 200 miles an hour. And that's what the Ben Johnson element gives them. The offensive line's awesome. Everything they do looks the same.

It's all in sync. They're incredible. But they but they could lose two coordinators. Yeah. Yeah. Good point. They could lose two coordinators. All right. So, uh, Sunday, what's wrong with Jalen Hertz? What's wrong with the Eagles offense? Well, in this scenario, I thought it was a game plan. I thought the passing concepts look like last year and any Eagles fans know what I'm talking about is it like spacing very vanilla? Not enough quick game But I also think the game kind of played out in a way where they knew When they jumped on that football and turned it into six in the first five minutes of the game Jordan love can't hang he might be dinged our defense is I mean, they're physical

They're really good and I think they just kind of played the game out in a way that suited that to be honest very shitty game plan right now they're not gonna be so lucky this week if they do that in my notes here I got written down McVeigh script versus Philly slow starts yeah that is it is it. You know, like to me, how do you start this game? And I think if you look at the second half, especially that first game, Brandon Fisk is like 290. He's a great player.

Love him. Turner, great player. Love him, 297. The ends, they're really good rushers. I don't know if they can set an edge for 60 minutes. And you know, we saw that last game with the interior that that defensive line, Landon Dickerson, Juergens, Juergens is fucking huge, man. You know, he's standing next to the other guys.

I was just there last week. He's standing next to the other guys. He looks small, but he's like a WWE wrestler. Like he's got that kind of build. And you know, the guards are big, powerful, tackles are big and powerful, I would just lean on these guys. So that's it. The concerns I have is like with the Kobe Dean down, as I alluded to, Stafford in the middle of field, if he's got time. I think there could be some uncomfortable moments in

past defense. Yeah, where's your heart at in this game, Chris? This is the Chris Longbow. Yeah, it is. The Rams, Eagles. My heart's with the Eagles, man. It's super weird, because playing there the last two years of my career,

when St. Louis cut me after eight years and moved, it felt to me like, all right, well, I am a Ram, and I do feel a lot of pride when I watch Jared Versplay or not N'Kobe De'Hom all over the place, I am a Ram and I do feel a lot of pride when I watch like Jared verse play or the coat. You're not in a cubby. Damn all over the place or Byron Young or the two interior guys I just talked about. I take pride in like, oh, there's another group in horns like our D line back in the day. Like there is a sense of pride there.

And I still talk to people in that organization. I have no bad blood. But when the team moves across the country, it's just it doesn't feel like home as much. You don't get out there. And then obviously being a St. Louis Ram, I'm always real cognizant of like they have Super Bowl parties without the game on. That's how much they hate staying cranky and the LA Rams and the concept of it. And for me, I don't have that same vitriol, but I was actually supposed to go out last week and be legend of the game. But I was actually supposed to go out last week and be legend of the game. And of course the game gets moved, forest fires, whole thing.

So that got rain checked. And then I ended up in Philly. When I go to Philly, man, it just feels like home. You know, it's like the most recent thing I did. And that city, like what we did there, excuse me for really enjoying being there. Yeah, it makes sense. It makes perfect sense. You walk around that stadium. Bo told a story on our pod this week where like it's legit. Like the people in the yellow jackets are like wherever you want to go.

I don't know. They want to hear that. Like Dom's like, where do you want to go? Come on boo. He walked me in the locker room. Supposedly Bo was in there before the game, sat Bo down in the coach's locker room, gave him a cannoli. He has like a stack of cannolis in his locker. Big dom does. That's so awesome. And he just pulled out a cannoli is like, Hey, just you and Kelsey, just take a seat. Wait, Chris will be down here soon. So I just the feeling you get when you go back, it's hard for me to say my heart's with anybody but the Eagles, but I think it's gonna be a great game. And I

think Matt Stafford is one of the best quarterbacks left in the damn playoff. Yeah, yeah, future Hall of Famers. He looked good last week. He looked kind of shaky in December, but what we saw last week, my concerns with Matt Stafford, I think they're gone. Yeah, I agree. Him playing outside, that's kind of a different story.

But yeah, he looked so good last week that now I'm like, yeah, the Rams can do it. They're scary, man. This is the one matchup for them. If they can win this game, look out. is the one matchup for them like if they can win this game Look out because The one matchup I worried about for them was versus this offensive line in sae kwon. Yeah Yeah Okay quick break from our interview with chris long talk to you about our friends at doritos with patrick homes help doritos

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And for me, as a guy who was like quick, athletic, but not fast, I always felt like when it got cold, if I could just run the same speed. Yeah. And I was as fast as the other guys. And, um, I just think playoff football is better in the cold. Like I'm one of these outdoor freaks. I agree. Like, you know, I'm watching the Miami dolphins play and you know, it's complicated for me. Anyways, in Kansas city last year and everybody's like, is inhumane.

Like people are getting frostbite. They lost people lost limbs. I'm like, hey, that was incredible. Yeah, it's just there's something about it. And yeah, I'm a little twisted. I played football, but where you see people have to adapt to like totally unnatural shit and how they respond, like, you know, and in some ways, the best team doesn't always win in that circumstance. But that's what it's about. And football is like reacting to whatever's on the plate that day. And I think it's cool as hell to like turn on TV in January and see smoke coming out of people's

helmets and shit, you know, um, to, to see quarterbacks wearing gloves and like, I do think it affects the, the fast guys more. I think the, I think the big guys like it. And then we always have our conversations about like, do you wear sleeves? Do you not wear sleeves? That sort of thing. Yeah. So is Derrick Henry a big guy or is he a fast guy? I think he's both. Yeah. So that's a problem. Unfortunately, he's both. I was just looking at Brian Baldinger's social about them running Wildcat. And it was like all 22 end zone and it was from Pittsburgh side.

So he's the furthest guy from the camera, but he's dwarfing Patrick Queen and Landon Roberts. He looks so unnaturally damn big and he doesn't slow down, man. And so yeah, they gotta have 11 hats to the ball this weekend. Yeah. So the Bill's linebackers you talked about

It's a big difference from the first time they played how do they slow down Derek Henry you you have you have to commit to it I mean, it's like listen. I understand last week. I think part of running Lamar is To put something on tape where you're saying early in that game. Hey, we're not always gonna give like he's gonna pull this ball and That happened at the cost of you know eight, ten quarterback runs in the first half. I would force them. To pull the ball in the option, you know, when all things are considered, like it's 50 50. There are times where I saw Pittsburgh and their linebackers up on the line. It's really hard to have the quarterback, especially Lamar, from a place on the field like that.

You got to be really careful about where you have your second level defenders popping off to handle the option on the pole. I would be crashing on Derek Henry and forcing the key to the entire game to run the ball 15 times. Like you know, the attrition of that you never know. And so I would force Lamar to run the football. I think, obviously, you're going to have to play some base, but you feel a lot better about it. It wasn't just Milano. They were down Bernard, they

were down Taron Johnson, who's a really important box player. He's a little guy, but he'll play big. And so, you know, when you run out Spectre, Dorian Williams, and Morrow, I think it was, to play linebacker against the Baltimore Ravens, and the first play of the game is a trap for 87 yards, that changes everything. The mood of the game, the tone of the game, how you call the game.

It was like Baltimore got whatever they wanted after that. And a lot of it is because they just played a numbers game. If you're gonna stack the box, they're gonna play a numbers game outside. I think Munkins done a great job with the RPOs, with screens, jet motion. So it's not just the slugfest,

like you also have to tackle on the perimeter. But if Zay's down, and Orlovsky pointed this out on ESPN, good guy knows ball. He does. I love Dan. Yeah. Okay, But he pointed this out with Zay Flowers down, not only can you play more man, but the run fits are

better off for that. So I think this team's changed a lot and for Baltimore fans I'll say this is the best team in the playoffs coming in. Yeah. And they played fantastic down stretch. They've changed a lot too. You know, Hamilton moving to safety putting Washington in safety putting the fire out at safety was huge I think your guy Eddie Jackson was there at some yeah sure yeah and in one of those games it was like man the safety play was bad so they improved that I think another thing is you know that game was one of those games for Buffalo

where it became apparent they gotta go get an outside guy to pair with Coleman. And so they get out and they get Cooper. They don't really have a number one. I think their number one is Shakir. Agreed. I think he's the most important guy. And he left that game in the second quarter,

I believe it was, so he didn't get a full day's work. I'm not making excuses for the Bills, but I think even Harbaugh said it like this, you can throw that first match up out the window. And usually you can't, I can remember 2018, we're defending the Super Bowl. We played, we started four and six, and we played down in New Orleans.

They beat us like, like Ren and Mules. It was like 47-7, and Payton didn't let off the gas pedal fucking ran the score up and we play him a second time. It's a low scoring ball game and we're a couple big mistakes away from winning that game and going back to the NFC championship. So things change a lot in three months. Yeah. Yeah. So and I also think Sean McDermott is great defensive coach. Like I think he will he will figure out something that a wrinkle to throw at the Ravens when you are Talking about like a wrinkle so to speak. Let's even go back week 18 the Vikings in the Lions It felt like the Lions had a something they hadn't shown before and they did a great job with Sam Darnold

How long when you go in with a game plan? You're like we're gonna throw something at them that they haven't seen. How long does it usually last where it's like, until it's like, all right, now they're gonna be able to adjust? Well, if it's one thing, it can be fixed pretty quickly on the sideline on tablets. And usually that was above my pay grade when I was a player,

they were usually arguing about it in the linebacker circle or whatever is like this motion means this, or, hey, they're trying to out leverage us doing this and you make one adjustment. But I think a lot of times it can really that counterpunch can knock you off your feet for the entire game. Yeah, the halftime. I felt like I felt like Detroit you brought that up and the Rams took that same game plan to play Minnesota. And I think when you watch Minnesota, for instance, they knew that like the longer in the down you go, the more dangerous Minnesota is. Your zones expand, they find creases,

but they also know that as good as Darnold has been statistically against the Blitz, this offensive line was in bad shape. And so I think you come into the game and you're worried about protection, but you don't think they're gonna blitz that much. And I think then you go play LA and it's in the back of your head.

And this is what makes, you know, what happened to Minnesota so like it wasn't gonna change. They knew coming to that game, the same thing could happen. And they didn't call their best game, but it still happened. And so sometimes it's just like, hey, we got you where we want you, and we're going to find out early in the game if you can block the edges.

Like the other night, there was a sack on Sam in the first quarter where it was like a sandwich. Yeah, and both of those ends just fucking ran through the tackles. That's like a code red thing. Right. And sometimes you don't know how Brian O'Neill's anchors going to hold up. You don't know how the left tackles anchor is going to hold up. You should have from the first match up. But yeah, it can really knock you off your feet. That's that's my favorite. One of my favorite parts about football is like a Sean McDermott can throw a wrinkle in there. You can even steal one possession kind of going back to like your, you know, the commander's lions game. You can get them off the field once and a half. That could the difference if if you're if especially in this game where it's josh and laur who? Could score every possession if they if you know if they're playing well, I think it could be a a lower scoring game

I don't know like, you know, I think for buffalo The key is going to be being able to run the football obviously and I think they've done a great job both these teams You kind of get lost in the shuffle talking about Baltimore who does a great job, obviously. But Buffalo and shout out to their offensive line coach, Aaron Kroemer and that whole group, like, they've done a great job and they were in a lot of gap scheme last week and just kicked it.

If you didn't watch the Denver game, and most of us did, and I was drunk and tailgating watching but then when I went back I was like holy shit yeah it was like and this is an example like oh early and often in the game Vance Joseph probably had to contend with oh we can't stop the run yeah yeah which puts you in a bind and I think for Buffalo what makes them good is I alluded to them not having a number one they really do and that's why people were doubting Josh at the beginning of the season. He's got a lot of good options.

Whether it's the tight end, whether it's Shakir, whether it's Coleman, and they're all different. And now you got Cooper. And another thing is the backs out of the backfield. The backs out of the backfield can be a problem in this game, so I would look for that. Yeah, shout out Aaron Kromer, punched a kid. Yeah, it's interesting.

They say he doesn't have a true number one, but I look at it like he just doesn't have a receiver where everybody is asking, why isn't this guy getting enough targets? Right. Which is nice. So it's good. He's got really good options.

Coleman's been pretty good as a rookie, and Shakir, the more I watch Shakir, I'm like, yeah, this guy is a legitimate star. He's awesome. He's awesome. He is awesome. And you know, when you look at the Ravens, Hamilton is the guy you got to know where he is. And it's easier now with them moving him to safety, primarily, you know where he's going to be. I think this is a game where you could get after Brandon Stevens and not to call somebody out.

But like if you're playing the Ravens, you take your chances outside. Whereas last week, with the corners they have, they were like, Hey, it's going to be run game or work the middle of the field. And that's what Josh did. This week is about outside the numbers. Yeah. So if you're looking at all the coaches still remaining and we're just talking about like during the game, X's and O's during the game and being a tactician in between the white lines, what's who is the best coach that's remaining? Well, I gotta give my respect to Andy Reid, number one, right, and part of that is the extension

of who you have as your coordinator. He's got Steve Spagnolo, who is a total stud, and has turned down opportunities to go back and interview as a head coach before. So I put Andy Reid number one. And then number two, I think Sean McVeigh is a wizard. I really do. I think Sean McVeigh is one of the best coaches of our generation. I think he's that good. And I got to put Dan up there because of his coordinators and his cutting edge kind of

decision making in game. Dan Quinn, yeah, I agree. And then I'm not going to ignore my boy Sirianni. Can't Quinn. Yeah, I know. You know, and then and then I'm not going to ignore my boy, Sirianni You know, I know that I know that there's a hook here and I got the Eagles hat on but you're asking about Tacticians and he doesn't call plays But I just want to point this out like, you know, the record is the record and I think anytime you listen the players Talking about his way of communicating motivating Having a team ready to play. He's had some bumps in the road, but he's also like our age, dude. Like not say McVeigh's not young,

but like I think he can grow. And he's grown even in this year alone, I think. And hiring Vic Fangio was fantastic. I mean, Vic has been like, you know, if you had to take a head coaching job tomorrow, like one of us did, we would probably hire a former head coach to be on the staff somewhere, right? Right.

And I think Vic adds a lot in this game and on defense side of the ball. So I just think it's Reed McVeigh in that order. And then you, you've got a lot of guys that don't call plays Harbaugh doesn't call plays. Sirianni doesn't call plays. Dan Quinn's a defensive guy. You know, it's, it's fun to see that defensive guys are back in, in the NFL and like culture guys too. And they're showing up this deep in the season. Yeah. Yeah. It is. Um, I had a question about coaching because

we have the coaching hiring and firing going on right now. When you went through a few different coaches, uh, with different coaches with the Rams, what is it like when you're sitting there waiting for the new coach? And like, what, what, what are you hoping for? And, and, and what happens when, when that new coach gets hired and like how quickly they can maybe change the culture or maybe they don't. Well, there's two things. Number one, you want, and this isn't the most important thing. Number one thing is winning, right? But number two thing is like, what kind of scheme do they run?

You know, who's going to be the coordinator? How am I getting along with my new D line coach? Is the scheme going to be prohibitive of me like taking that jump? Like when I was a young player and watching Spags getting hired, I was really excited. But we weren't good enough to turn that thing around. And the thing I didn't think about was like, what kind of defense does he run?

Like that's what I should have been thinking about. And that was different. Like I had to play in a six technique and you know, like the defense was a little bit different than the one I played in the year before. And then when fish came, you know, I'm like, okay, I'm back in a wide nine. This is a lot of fun. You start calling players that played for him, you know, or'm like, OK, I'm back in a wide nine. This is a lot of fun.

You start calling players that played for him, you know, or played for him. You know, if you got somebody in a Rolodex, you hit them up. But it's usually like it's like opening a Christmas present. But you have to do it like every week if you're a Saint Louis ramp. Right. You know, like it feels like it happens way too much. But by Jeff Fisher, I was like, hey, whatever happens, happens. And he ended up being like my favorite coach that I had in St. Louis. So, you know, yeah, I think I had a total of like five or six head coaches.

If you include like interims and guys that came and went in St. Louis. But, you know, it keeps you hungry if you're on a bad team and the coaches change all the time because you got to prove it to the next group. Yeah, yeah, sure. It makes it harder, but it also keeps you hungry. And I feel like we're right at that time in the cycle where Spags is starting to go to, he's going to get some interviews. People are going to be interested in having Spags as a head coach.

At some point, I feel like the thing I mentioned, culture guys, defense, I mean, that's kind of back in vogue. And I think at some point, like, things can get stale. It hasn't with him. I think maybe the day Chris Jones moves on, I would consider it. Yeah. But I think the interesting job right now

that we're talking about is Vegas. I texted Dan the other day, it's kind of wildcard, but it's starting to shape up a little bit. The fact that y'all, would y'all send a private plane down to pick him up to come interview in Chicago. Yeah. You know, I don't think it'd be the worst hire in the world. Like I think court of public opinion has eventually come around on on McCarthy. There's some guys that are never going to like him, but the players like him. And at

the very least, I think they have a high floor with him. Yeah. But what that tells me is that Ben Johnson might not be the guy. And it makes sense because of the GM alignment. Yeah. You know, you guys have a GM in place. Like Ben has made it and Ben's done a really good job. Sometimes you can make yourself really valuable, not just by your play calling, but turning down the job last year, it adds a little bit of mystique, right? Like you're like, I don't put out. Yeah, right. Right. Everyone wants you a little more, but you're exactly right exactly right like this is gonna be a very interesting test case because if he takes the Raiders job without a Seemingly without a quarterback turns down the Jaguars and the Bears

He's basically saying like you guys should have fired your GM. Yeah, you should have fired your GM You should have given me a shot to bring in my own GM like that was stupid of you. And hopefully you're not kicking yourself, because if he's as good as people say he's going to be, then maybe you are. But I think what's interesting about the Vegas job is like, Mark Davis is not known to be a cash fluid guy.

Yeah. And I hate to talk about me and PFT's good buddy. Yeah, good friend. We met at the win. Yep. By the Koi pond. I was so high on mushrooms. I was, I was a hand up. Hey, we had just come from, I don't know where we had come from, but, um, I was like, there he is. Let's talk to him. Uh, but, but there is a

rumor that he's floated like a really big number. And, uh, if he did that, what a burn the ships like move that would be especially considered all the coaches that he's had to buy out. And I think the Tom Brady effect is real for Ben Johnson. He must really think like this is a valuable thing and he must have been given some assurances along with the fact they fired Tom Telesco, the GM last week. I think that bodes well for Vegas, but the most interesting thing is this weekend, Tom's gonna be calling that game. It's gonna be so funny to hear him try not to talk bad. Or, you know, like, just listen for

the dynamic as the game goes on. Yeah, it's interesting. Big cats never said a bad thing about Mike McCarthy before. So I think he's never he's totally cool. He's totally fine. He'll be good. I have it. How do we how do we feel about, I remember we talked midway through the season and you know, you were getting excited off the Jacksonville game and I tried to bring you back down to earth. I think he's going to be okay, man. I liked the kid. It was, I really liked the way I'd say it is like, you can't script a worse set of circumstances. And that obviously makes me look stupid because

I said it was the best set of circumstances, which I'm a moron, but I w you know, next year will be very telling because it, I mean like he literally went through three OCs, a head coach change, the head, the interim was his OC for three games. He looked good. So it was a mess. Hopefully, hopefully the hammering gets figured out. Dude, I, I was impressed with him this year as bad as things were and as bad as he played at times. Like I was impressed with his mentality. I was impressed with his toughness. I was impressed with his, his, um, his, just his like leadership. It looked like for young player, like just the fire in his belly, like when things were going wrong to give a shit,

yeah. Like the winning that game at the end of the season like means nothing. But that meant a lot to him. Right. Absolutely. So, you know, I look forward to seeing him with somebody competent and, you know, we got to work on like maybe not answering every phone call. Yep. Yep.

That was unfortunate. That was very unfortunate. I also think he played that on pretty well. Yeah, exactly. Like that was a good response to it rolled with punches Yeah, I I've been telling big cat that Mike McCarthy I want to see it just because it's very funny considering everything big cats in the past about Mike McCarthy Yes to have him now be the head coach. Yes, that's an interesting dynamic, but I when you get him on yeah

You have a read them all I'm gonna read all the tweets. Yeah, I'll read all the tweets But the more I think about it, it is a safe choice and when you look at his history, he's probably gonna make you pretty good team But Caleb in my opinion physically has the tools to be special like an incredible quarterback Mike McCarthy if you're looking at him as like a high floor play Yeah, I I don't know. I think you can do better I think that if you really want to maximize what could be a great quarterback like one of the best if not the best in The history of your franchise you kind of should take a shot at that Ben Johnson It would be who would be the high floor play not to put you on the spot

I think I know Ben Johnson, but no, how do we know? Yeah, I think McCarthy is is gonna be good I don't know if he's gonna be great Ben Johnson's a swing for the fences Yeah, it could obviously swing for the fences, but there's also like, Hey, we have to build that offensive line that you're two running backs have been running behind. And Jared golf's actually pretty fucking good. Yeah. Yeah, no, he is. And it's, you're right. Like you don't get Ben Johnson's offensive line when you get Ben Johnson. That's a pretty big, can he bring the guy? Right?

That's a pretty big, like S stark. What about like some wild card? Todd Monk in I like Todd Monk in I don't know. I mean, there's some names out there. It's a McCarthy Campbell Alright, I got one last question for you Chris. It's been awesome. Everyone. Like I said go go listen to Chris's podcast Greenlight podcast They do a great job roback calm Go listen to Chris's podcast, Greenlight Podcast. They do a great job. Roback.com, R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com promo code. Take 20% off your first purchase. Q-zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts.

They got new hoodies that are super comfortable. Roback.com. What a great company not to step on the ad read. Great company. All right, putting you on the spot. Favorite bet of the weekend. Ooh, favorite bet of the weekend, geez. Yeah, favorite bet of the weekend. Golly, I am on the spot favorite bet of the weekend. Oh, favorite bet of the weekend. Jeez. Yeah.

Favorite bet of the weekend. Golly, I am on the spot. I'm going to bet it. Please don't hit. Yeah. Favorite bet of the week. I went like 55 and 31 picking five a week this week or this year or whatever it was. And I want one in for you last week. So playoff's different, different game. Read me the lines at this point. Yeah. The, uh, the, the, uh, chiefs are seven point fay or eight and a half point favorites. Excuse me. The lions are nine and a half point favorites. The bills are one and a half point underdogs and the Eagles are six point favorites. That's a lot of points in Philly. I know, but you want to do it.

What's the first half Rams line? I mean I'm not gonna say it. I'm not gonna say anything about filling the Rams We can connect the dots based on what you're already gonna, you know, I'm inevitably gonna bet Buffalo like yeah You're gonna do it. Anyways, why don't we just do it? Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah plus one and a half at home Just let us we're gonna bet Buffalo. I am. I know that game's going to come around because I've said it like, I have no idea who's going to win. But I know when the game is about to kick off, I'm like, yeah, fuck it. Let's go Buffalo.

Or you could tease the Buffalo Bills Yep. With the Philadelphia Eagles. Yeah. I like that one too. And then yeah, close to the heart, you know? Yeah. On both things. I like teasing them with the Chief then, yeah, close to the heart, you know? Yeah. On both things. I like teasing them with the Chiefs,

because I feel like Chiefs, you tell me that they win by one point or one and a half points. That feels like a pretty good chance to take. Yeah. It does feel good, but it would make it so not fun if you're trying to celebrate seeing an upset. And yeah, that's the biggest enemy I have betting during the playoffs. Right. Yeah. I always love seeing the dog. Yeah. You don't want the guy. You don't want to be the guy who took the one seed against

the 16 and then like a UMBC happens. I did that. Yes. And then you can't even, well, you you fucking motherfucker title the next year. It doesn't matter. You bet against Tony Bennett's going. I know. know I know you bet against UMBC No I was at a wedding that weekend And it was in it was like a Baltimore wedding and they were like 10 UMBC At least that's how that's gotta be the most UMBC people in one room ever in one room ever And they just happen to be like at this fucking wedding And I'll never forget like waking up so hungover the next day and all the people that that gave me the like hey

You know tonight And they fucking they didn't even mean it. Oh, right. Oh, that's brutal. I like CJ Stroud over 14 and a half Russian yards I like that as well. Yeah. Yeah, you know what? Hey shameless plug you could check it out on our show I'll have my shit together by then love the gambling love it because I because I this too early in the week Okay, I gotta check out sharps. We wait. Yeah, you know, I've loved watching you on TV Chris. You've been very good on TV You've worked with with coach Belichick What's that been like behind the scenes dude? He is the funniest motherfucker ever I mean he has the advantage of like surprise

because you don't think of him that way. And even having been coached by him, I knew he was funny in his own dry kind of way. But like the production meetings in the morning, my face hurts from smiling. And it's also, he's like a football dad. Like you just wanna follow him around and ask him questions. He's been fun, man. You just want to follow him around and ask him questions.

He's been fun, man. And they took the UNC job. The morning he took the UNC job, we were all like, he walks in the production and we're like, coach, oh, I'm playing the UNC fight song. And he sits down and he's like, you believe everything you fucking hear in the media. And then four o'clock that day when we all leave he takes the UNC job. So good. So good.

Hasn't signed the contract. Has not. He's a steel trap dude. Oh what? Hasn't technically signed the contract. Well, you know, he likes to make things interesting. Yeah, always. Alright, well Chris, you're the best.

We'll see you in New Orleans, man. Thank you so much. Dude, can't wait. Let's get after it, man. Yes. Love a good time. Part of my take is sponsored by BetterHelp. Every year, January brings you 365 blank pages waiting to be filled.

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that this is not going to cover our yearly combine tradition where we'll just go backwards into the entire year of tweets and stories. This is solely because we need to know what the heck is going on with the NFL coaches, hiring, firing, where everyone's going. And I think we have to start in the most intriguing spot and that's the Dallas Cowboys and what w w let me start with this.

How close was Mike McCarthy to staying and how did that all fall apart? Like, you know, in the last couple of days, well, before we get to Mike McCarthy and falling apart, first, I'll have to say that one of the coolest things of my career so far has been to watch my daughter on the Nickelodeon broadcast yes introduce you guys And make you a part of the bikini bikini bottom right that was cool. It technically wasn't us It was big catfish and PF manatee. Yeah, she did a great job though. I appreciate that she introduced us before she introduced LePron James. Yeah. I thought that was the correct order. I should have started with that. You're absolutely right. She, she did it. She did a fantastic job and that was,

we were the Leo meme. We were explaining it. We were watching it cause we had the main TV was the main broadcast and one of the side TVs, Nickelodeon and PFT. I both just looked up like, what the heck? and uh, she crushed it. Yeah. Well, you know, the funny thing is, is that was the first game that she's done and she's done four or five games that I haven't been right there with her. I had to be in Bristol on Sunday morning for Sunday count. And I tried to figure out all these ways to get to Houston and there were no late flights out, no early morning flights out. And so my son took her and so I'm sitting there at home like a regular viewer watching

her and she pops on the screen. I think her first hit, her very first hit that day was you guys kind of showing you guys at the game. So I hope you guys enjoyed the bikini bottom. And she did a great job. You must've been a very proud dad. Yes. Yeah. He bought him. And she did a great job. You must've been a very proud dad. Yes.

Yes. Well, and the great part was sitting with my wife and I know that she's going to do the post-game interview and I said, yeah, we'll see what it is. I don't think it'll be Joe Mixon because I just don't think they're going to do it. And they said, let's go down to the L.A. chapter standing by with Joe. I'm like, they did it. They did it. Joe Mixon uses the word ass in hell.

Very funny. Um, all right. So Cowboys give it to us. What happened with Mike McCarthy and then are they going to actually hire Dion? I, first of all, I know a lot of people felt like Mike was going to be back, including myself at one point and like, okay, the players are coming out and supporting him him Jerry's coming out and supporting him He wants to be like it was going that way, but it's one of those things where I guess it's like a couple dating Well, yeah, they're gonna get married. They're gonna get married again Except the guy never gives up the ring and after a while at some point time

The woman's like, you know what? Either you're gonna give me the ring or I'm moving on and I think they sat down They went over football stuff all week long and it became apparent that Jerry wasn't committing long-term They never ever gotten to negotiations They're moving forward with insights and observations about the football team now Was there something that was said or done in those few days between the end of the season till the time where both sides said that they part or going their own ways. I don't think there was. I just think it became apparent over the course of those conversations that the Cowboys weren't entering into negotiations.

Like, okay, at what point do you realize like, wow, he's eligible to talk to teams Tuesday at midnight. And there's been zero negotiating. Like we're going to wait till midnight on Tuesday before you realize he's not going to be back as the Dallas Cowboys coach or what? Yeah. And I just think it went in that direction. And to the point where both sides knew that was the

way it was going to go. And then they memorialized it and made it official. Yeah. Cause when they blocked him from doing other interviews, it felt like that's a move that you would make if you were progressing towards a new contract, right? Right. Yes. Yes.

But, but here's the thing. I think sometimes you're trying to explain actions that aren't so easily explained with certain people. And also they knew that it wasn't like they were denying him the right to go take the Bears job, right? Because in-person interviews can't even occur until after the divisional playoff round. The Bears have been all over the map. And if Mike McCarthy is going to talk to the Bears, he's going to be able to do it next

week whether it is then or now. I almost feel like it's like, again, to use that dating analogy, you know, okay, the girl wants you to propose, you're not proposing. Well, can I go out with, no, you can't. But now we claim you can. It applies there too. And so I just think that in the end, ultimately, that's what they decide to do. Each side went its own way.

And when they said no, you didn't know whether that meant that they were going to try to get something done or whether they were just kind of being Dallas. And that's what they were doing, being Dallas. So if you had to handicap three names that you could see going to Dallas, Who is it? And we're all just intrigued about the Dionne part of the walrus. Of course, everybody is, right? And I think that, again, we're going to hear other names come up, but I think Kellen Moore is a logical name because he fits there, knows how it works, can do the job on Jerry's terms, wouldn't cost what it would cost to hire Mike Vrabel. It fits in so many ways. But then you also

have the allure of a guy like Deion Sanders. And it's not like Jerry, I don't think, has to interview Deion. He knows Deion and Deion knows him, although you'd want to hear his ideas for the program and what he would be thinking going forward. And so, look, I think Jerry changes his mind a couple of times on McCarthy going along this. And I think it's possible, probably likely, that he, like other teams, you go through this process and you think, you know what? I think I kind of like this guy

And then you talk to this guy. Well, I like that guy and then this guy makes up ground So it's it's hard to forecast exactly how it's gonna come out I would just say like Helen Moore square and contention Deon Sanders if that's the way Jerry wants to go square and contention could we get a guy like Leslie Frazier or Jason Witten come? Yes, it's possible. But I think that Kellan Moore is the logical name. And Dion Sanders is the really fun, intriguing name. Yeah, yeah. So they go.

It's like the two the two angel the angel and the demon on Jerry Jones's shoulder. The splash hire is always going to be in Jerry's mind. He's like, you know, Dion, instant excitement for the Dallas Cowboys, good for the brand. Kellen Moore makes the most sense. Well, but no, but the splash hire may be the logical hire here. Yeah. The logical hire here. Dion has got something of the Midas touch. He's incredible around people. I think he'd be great. I really do. And in fact, again, I said this on Get Up This Morning, but I go back to this call that I got in October of 2023. GM calls me up and he's like, hey, write this down. The next head coach of the Dallas Cowboys is going to be Dion Sanders. I'm

like, really? He's like, take it to the bank. I'm like, okay. Why do you say? Jerry loves him. He loves Jerry. It's going to happen. Will it happen? We're all waiting to see. It'd be unbelievable for everybody. Be great for the Cowboys. Be great for Deion. Be great for shows like yours and this. Yeah, big time. Do you think that Deion would want his son to play for the Cowboys if he was going to be the head coach? I don't view that as a viable option right now.

That doesn't mean that at a later date that that couldn't happen, but first of all, Dak Prescott's got a no trade clause in his contract. He's the highest paid player in football. They just paid him. It's not practical to move off Dak, and I don't think they're thinking of moving. They want Dak to be there. And by the way, are the Titans who have the number one pick

where you potentially would have to be to take Shador, are they gonna go trade that pick for Dak, the highest? I don't know about that. Yeah, yeah. To me, that. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it just, it's, to me, that's more fantasy football. I know, I know De'Anne has talked about the fact that he'd want to be with his son. Well, okay. But that would be ideal, but it's not practical right now, unless the Titans wanted to do something. So I think it's more along the lines of he's got great respect and affection

for Jerry Jones and it's the Dallas Cowboys. And I don't know if he still has his house. I still think he does. He's had a house in that area. Yeah. Yeah. It was the franchise. Like I mean, it's a no brainer. So that that's one that I think could, uh, get him to change his mind. Okay. So, uh, other, other spots, uh, are the bears going to lose out on Ben Johnson? It feels like there was a lot of momentum of Ben Johnson in Chicago and now all the momentum has switched and it's Raiders for Ben Johnson and Mike McCarthy for the bears. Is that fair? Where, where, where is it? Where's it at? I would just say this, that, um, there's a lot of Ben Johnson Raiders talk, right?

A lot of conversation about that, right? And that may happen. Like it could, but I don't think the Jaguars should be dismissed. And I don't think the Chicago bears should be dismissed. Okay. I, I really believe that all of them have something of an equal opportunity. I don't believe there's one ahead of the other. And I think there are three potential options and we're going to see how that goes. Yeah. And what, what is it with Ben Johnson? Is it, is it, uh, he wants the most money? Is it, you

know, obviously the two, the two out of the three of those have quarterbacks that you would think, you know, Caleb Williams and Trevor Lawrence, the third has Tom Brady is part of partial owner. What do you think he prioritizes? I think when you're going through one of these job searches, it becomes obvious to you and apparent to you over time who wants you most. And I don't mean in the form of money. You guys have been through this yourselves in your life. Just think back to people who have wanted you and how that became evident to you.

And I think that Ben Johnson is going to be in a situation here where I believe he's going to be open to any one of these situations. And the landing spot will make itself apparent and evident to him over time through the conversations that either he or his agent have with that particular team. There are drawbacks, questions with each one of those openings. He's going to have to get sufficient answers before he proceeds forward. There's not gonna be a perfect spot, but there's gonna be a good spot in the end.

And it's up to him to pick really the best of the that are out there that are after him. And I think, I really believe right now he doesn't know what that will be. Yeah. But again, it will over time materialize and become clear, you know what? Boy, this team is doing what I want in the front office.

This team is handling this the way. They're gonna structure this the way. They're saying, this team's giving me more years. This team's giving me more money. This team is saying, come do that. Like these things become apparent to you over time. And I believe the same will be true here of Ben Johnson. And I don't believe there is a favor right now. I really don't. Okay. Okay. I like that. What kind of questions, maybe not in the sense of the Ben Johnson interviews, but if it's a coach that is not seen as someone who gets to pick their

destination, what kind of questions are asked to a coach, prospective coach during an interview for the head job? I've never been a part of the process, so I don't exactly know, but I know that a lot of that time is spent going over staffing and their visions for the team. And if you're a team like the Jets, I'm sure they're asking, okay, if you come in as the head coach, the GM, what are we doing a quarterback? Like they want to know their plans. And by the way, the Jets have asked for permission from basically every candidate out there, except for Robert Sala, which at this point in time, I wouldn't be surprised if they turn in commission for him at this point. But I'd want to know the ideas of everybody.

What do you think that we should do at quarterback? Because somebody may have an idea that you hadn't thought of that can help you at that spot. So I would love to be a fly on the wall in one of these head coaching processes. It would be fascinating to see. And again, just like, just like we're talking about the team over time, distinguishing itself and becoming obvious to a guy like Ben Johnson, I believe the same is true in turn, where a candidate distinguishes himself over time and makes it such that that team believes that that guy is the

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local grocery store. The General Tso's is delicious. This is the best meal that you can make yourself at home and it's so fast,, so tasty, so easy and it's healthy. All right. Now here's more Adam Schefter. We saw Rex Ryan, your colleague has, has distinguished himself, uh, a lot on the airwaves. Is he, is that, is that going to happen or is that ship sailed? Well, I don't think the ship is sailed. Listen, Rex is so passionate and so confident and he's so unique. And I love working with the guys so much.

I'd love to see him give the chance. I told the story to somebody, I'm like, I'm sitting at the kitchen table and the local news comes out and they say, and Rex Ryan's interviewing for the Jets today. And my wife and daughter, they don't know anything about football. Like Rex, didn't he coach there 10 years ago? I'm like, yeah. They're like, didn't they fire him? Yeah. Well, why are they talking to him now? I said, well, they haven't been back to an ASE Championship game since they fired him.

Yeah. Right? So Rex knows what's worked in New York, what's succeeded. I would never underestimate Rex. I'm personally rooting for the guy, but let's see how the process plays itself. I think, I mean, I think a guy like Aaron Glenn is a favorite in New York. And I believe Aaron Glenn is absolutely going to get one of these head coaching jobs, whether it's in New York or New Orleans. So if it happens to be in New York, well, that knocks Rex out of the Jets and he doesn't get the job then. If it doesn't happen with Aaron Glenn, does Rex come into play? He's got a lot of friends a lot of relationships there and and and I'd love to see it. Although I hate to lose him from ESPN because he's so great to work with but we'll see how it all plays out

Is there I want to go back to the Cowboys real quick. Is there anything to do with Belichick still? Possibly looking at the cowboys? I know people keep bringing this up. Yeah. I know it is lingering out there. I just don't see it. I just don't see it. Like, I mean, I'm going to take Bill at his word.

He said, we didn't come to North Carolina to leave North Carolina. We came here to be here. He said all kinds of things along those lines. He's in high schools every single day. I don't care that his contract isn't formally signed. I don't care that he's connected to the... Here's my question, a better one. Let's do it in basic common sense. Give me a place right now where you believe he fits naturally as a head coach. Go through the openings and I could blow up every one of those places for a different reason. Like there's not even a logical fit for him out there right now. Possibly the

Raiders with Tom Brady. No, don't see it. The Cowboys doing one that comes to mind for me. And by the way, I, I, I understand why people would say that. I don't see it. I think bill obviously had to be aware that that job could open. Like he's not an idiot. Everybody knew that McCarthy was in the last year, I'm sure that a close look was taken at that situation for whatever reason he took the North Carolina job. I just don't see a fit for him with these current openings anywhere for me. That's one of the things that I was looking at when the story came out. I think it was Jonathan Jones reported that he has not signed his contract officially

at UNC yet. I don't know how common that is. I don't know if it's one of these things where coaches frequently get to work before signing on the dotted line. I know he signed a term sheet, which is different and it's not legally binding to him. But I mean, Bill has signed a napkin before and said, this is legally binding. The way it's been explained to me is they have an offer sheet agreement, which is common as the state of North Carolina works out the details. It's a process there to get a deal finalized.

There isn't a gray area, but they have an offer sheet agreement, which is common in that state right now. Got it. Got it. So who would be a good fit for the Raiders? Well, Ben Johnson, I believe they're definitely interested in, you know, whether or not they see, that remains very much in question. And then if they don't get Ben Johnson, what do they then do?

That's where I think it gets really interesting. Who is their next choice? I don't have an answer for you right now. Like again, they haven't met face to face with a lot of these candidates. We could just throw people up at certain spots and talk about it But I don't know how much that makes sense right now It feels like there's maybe too many teams and I count myself as part of this who are just Banking on like what we'll get Ben Johnson

Well, let me say this. I believe that Ben Johnson is The big domino here. Yeah, and so I think the rain there's a waiting to see I believe that Ben Johnson is the big domino here. Yeah. And so I think the Raiders are waiting to see what happens with Ben Johnson. I think the Bearers are waiting to see what happens. I think the Jaguars are waiting to see. So right then and there, the process has slowed down. Then we have the NFL and its clunky, slowing it down even more to where no face-to-face interviews are even allowed with coaches under contracts to teams until after this upcoming weekend division.

So that slows it down. Again, it's great to talk about and wonder about and speculate, but this is still really early in the process. There's a lot that's going to play out and a lot that's still going to change. Yeah. Let me ask you this. Is there a possibility that Ben Johnson does what he did last season and just says I want to be a line? I don't see it this year. I don't see it. Ben Johnson has turned down two years of opportunities. And I

don't care who you are in this league, at some point you have to take the plunge. The money is too great, the opportunities are too great. You can't keep turning down jobs year after year. And again, the Lions might be this good again next year. They might be, but this is the NFL. They might not. And if they're not and it doesn't take one, well, all of a sudden you're on your coordinator

salary as opposed to a head coaching salary of anywhere between, I don't know, 10, 11, $12 million a year. There's just too much money to turn it down again. I don't believe it's going to happen. I believe he's taking a head coaching job this year. You think maybe Glenn and Ben Johnson a little bit too focused on doing outside interviews, maybe taking their eye off the ball this weekend? That's why you have agents though. That's why you have agents to go over that and gather all the information and find out the answers to the questions while you're coaching the game.

Like that's an agent's job and he presents everything to you, boiled down so that you can then sit down with your wife and figure out what's best before you're going into it. He, he has an idea of all it. Like we're not oblivious to this. He knows what each organization is about. And by the way, yes, he's getting ready to coach in an incredibly important postseason where the Lions could make history and have an unbelievable

memorable run for that city, but, but he's a human being. He also is aware that there is a career altering option in front of him. So of course there's going to be some thought given to that. Is it, uh, is the NFL going to do anything about Tom Brady being an owner of the Raiders and calling that game this weekend and then, and then being able to interview Ben Johnson before. You know here's what I say to that honestly like Tom Brady has spoken to Ben Johnson he'll go through

this in the interview do you think he's gonna sit down there this weekend well Ben's getting ready for the biggest game of his season and be like if you come to Vegas here's what we're gonna do it what do what do you like? Tom Brady is a professional. Ben Johnson is a professional. They're not doing that this weekend. I know there are sensitive people, but I think you have to be practical about it. What are we talking about? Yeah. And it also feels like I assume I've never been in one of those big production meetings, but aren't there like, like 10 people in there? Correct. It would be, it weird if he used that time for the Raiders. It'll be Kevin Burkhart. It'll be all the producers, the directors, Aaron Andrews, Tom

Ratt. Like they're all around there. So if he does it, we'll find out. There will be a leak. If he actually does that. They want to meet for a glass of wine later to like, do you really think they need to do that? What are they going to go over there that they haven't before or couldn't in the future? What do they have to do at that moment that has to get done the night before the commanders played the Lions? Like, come on. Maybe Tom just flashes him that winning smile and charms him with his eyes. I was getting nervous about it. That could be.

Yeah. I was, cause I think the Bears are going to end up losing out on Ben Johnson and get Mike McCarthy, which it'll be fine. I'll just say this, big cat. I don't know how it's going to go yet, but here's what I would say. He may not be a bear. Absolutely. That's possible. But I would just say right now, at this stage of the process, right now, don't lose the

faith. Okay. I like that. All right. So Chef D, I got one last question for you. This has been awesome. Again, we're going to do it. We'll do our full sit down in Indy, which we always love go to anything happen this year that there is to Go over. I don't know. Well, we'll find some stuff

Stuff some beefs Rowback question our HOP a CK comm promo code take 20% off your first purchase Q zips polos hoodies joggers shorts row back comm promo code Take please tell me that the NFL is not going to change how the seeding works because one season the Vikings won 14 games and had to play on the road. It's never happened before. I don't see them changing it anytime in the future. The league is always looking at ways to innovate and improve, but I've heard this complaint. Remember the year where the Seahawks won the division with a horrible record. It was like 500 and then the Saints had a much better record and had to go to Seattle for the opening wild card game.

And that turned out to be the Beastquake game where Marshawn Lynch had one of the most memorable runs in NFL history. And the sound level in that stadium, match a new world record. The league is intent upon rewarding division winners. I don't see that changing anytime soon. Okay, good, good, good. Division should matter. Yes. Now, could the league, nobody said this,

but we're just talking out loud logically. Could they then say, okay, we're gonna have the division winners host games and then after that we'll recede? I, I don't know. Does that even make sense? I maybe, I don't know, but I've never heard any momentum or movement to change the way the playoff seating system works. Okay. Perfect. That's what I wanted to hear. I appreciate that response. Yep. That's the correct response. All right. Well, Shafty, you're the best. We'll see in, maybe we'll see in new Orleans, but we'll also see in the Noles. Hold on. How nervous is PFT about Saturday night? I'm, I'm nervous. I think the lions have a great team, but they

don't have Jayden Daniels. They don't. Period. If we can keep it within, if it's a one score game in the fourth quarter, I think that Jaden Daniels will go out there and do something special and win the game. That's where he's most dangerous, right? Six comebacks in the final 10 seconds of games this year. No rookie quarterback ever has done that. He's become like a modern day Joe Montana, John Elway, with the ability to improvise and run around. Guy's been incredible. And one person there said he covers up for a lot of our sins. Yes. Yes. He certainly does. On that note, Cliff Kingsbury,

is he going to get a job offer? Do you think? And would he accept a head coaching position? Because he said, when he left the Cardinals, maybe it's a good thing that I'm not a head coach. That's a lot of stress that he dealt with. Do you think he's going to get an offer and would he accept? Let me start by saying this. If I'm Cliff Kingsbury and I'm happy, I'm in no rush to leave Jaden Daniels. I know I've got arguably the best young player in football on my roster. So if something materialized and it was ideal and it was great, sure. I don't know that he's looking to rush back into that world. Right. I think he's still being paid by Arizona.

He doesn't have to. It's not going to impact his bottom line any. There's a lot of stress on that. I don't know that he's going to get one. I don't know that he really wants one. I don't know that he cares about one. I think he cares about playing the Lions right now. And we'll see how that process plays itself out. Like I said, to me, Ben Johnson, Aaron Glenn, getting two of the six openings. Now we're down to four openings.

You can go try to figure out who those other four guys are going to be that are going to fill up those head coaching jobs. One of them is Dallas, wild card. We'll see how Jerry Jones thinks. Now we're down to three. So we got Brian Flores. We got Joe Brady. We got Liam Cohn. We got Todd Monk. Yeah. There are a lot of guys. And again, these guys are under contract. They haven't even met with these teams yet in person. Right. It's hard to say how that's going to go. Yeah. All right. Well

chef the year the best we'll see you soon soon We really appreciate it and uh tell you tell your daughter. Uh, congrats on a great broadcast And thank you for giving us the respect we deserve Going in front of lebron james in fish form. Yes That had that had to be a career highlight like i've never been called out on a on a on bikini bottom slime slime It was great. Yeah, that's. That, that, that, I know you guys have done a lot, but that's when you know you really are. Yes, absolutely. All right. Thanks so much, Shepty. Thanks guys. See you soon. Good to see you.

Okay. Let's wrap up. We got Fire Fest of the week. Henry, give it to us. Yeah. Good friend. Longtime colleague, coworker, collaborator, brother, PFT commenter who's in the room with us right now. He's he's trying to spin a false narrative against me and you kind of big cat that that we don't like V that you don't exist. Oh yeah. And it's I love me. I love the love the love me remove the context from the conversation He did and he basically just shoot going around saying these guys are gay. No idea. Yeah I did a witch hunt I didn't say that Oh because I in the moment leading a gay witch hunt again Well, this is interesting cuz in the moment I I felt like an outsider because I was the only one put my hand up

And saying I love V. It's we were talking visually Yeah, just as itself. Yeah, I think I was on your side PFT. Thank you. I think I was talking about how I like full full V-pictures. Yeah, listen hand up. I'm sorry. I like vaginas. I'm willing to die on that hill I know I'm willing to die I have to like say like I have to clarify knowing that you and you have memes in your pocket with the clip army And it's like I gotta say I also love vaginas. I do too. Okay great. But I also love T and A.

But yeah if we're talking about strictly pictures which we were like visually. Yes. Yeah. Like the question is tits or ass and you would say V? You would rather have a picture of V than T? I love looking, yeah they look great. Oh I'd rather see a picture of T. T or A. What would your answer be T or a you'd say V

No, if you ask me T, or a that's a Two-part question. It's it's a or B. How about this? For example the I would say I say T The nice young lady at the Oilers game you would have preferred her to flash her V. No because that's different That's no way. No, it is Flashing V in a public setting is that's a little low class even for me. But the T was great. I loved the T. Yeah, and there's a bunch of people that are using the the super bad argument of like, oh yeah I'm gonna say what Jonah Hill said. Jonah Hill's character in Superbad also had an obsession with drawing dicks everywhere. He loved dicks.

Hmm. I don't even remember Superbad. Where he was like you ever seen a V on its own? Not for me. Ah, yeah, got it. Listen, Hank, I believe that that you like V. I'm not saying that you're gay. I'm saying that I felt like you were saying I was gay for liking vagina. Well, you made the wings analogy, which it's you said that a is celery, which if you're looking at, you know, the wings, the sauce celery, you're ranking a last. What do you mean?

Like if you're talking about a plate of wings, you're like, maybe that was a raking a wing of plates. It's blue. It's the wings. It's the sauce. It's the celery's last might have been a clumsy analogy. Maybe the V rib eye steak a mac and cheese

The tea maybe we're talking just massive. He knows loaded baked potato twice baked potatoes where it is. That's what the teas are. I Don't know. I just didn't I didn't I didn't appreciate it I have had people, you know coming up talk to me and be like to you. You don't like V dude I'm like no, this is all PFT spins spin doctor. No, I'm just saying in the moment I felt like I was a weirdo because I was the only one that said hey, I love V So do I for the record me too now it now you now you've put me in a spot. Yeah, okay Well, yeah, we all have our preferences I'm just a V guy. I like brains a

Woman's brains. I like I like her soul. Yeah, I agree like kind souls So wait, I'm not talking about feet just to put a boy gay No, Oh V. Okay V. I'm Pro V1 Pro V1 Pro guy. That's what they call you D D you like D cups. No No, oh not even your own? Sure. Okay. All right. So your firefest is that everyone thinks that you're gay. My firefest is today in our office, which is against I don't even know what's inappropriate. I had to defend my my stance on liking these around a bunch of co-workers Who's attacking you? Yeah a lot of people were there women?

women women Maybe Rick it was it was a it was a everyone was getting lunch and I was just like trying to make my lunch Just being like nope. I love the so Rick got you this rattled. I Think white boy, right? I think it was the internet. I think the internet. The internet. It was PFT's tweet being like, I don't like V, Henry Lockwood. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Let's back up because memes posted the clip. And then I- But you took it out of context. No, I posted it out and I said, fellas, is it gay to like vaginas? And then Hank was like, that's not what I said. Then I directly quoted you. Right. But that's what you're talking about pictures.

What was your quote? I don't know. You said it. No, it was your quote. I don't know that I get turned on by straight V visually. Okay, a picture of it. Yes, I do. That's it.

We all have differences. Yeah, I don't think a picture of it does. I'd rather see a picture of tits. Pick pictures. We're talking strictly pictures. Exactly. That's where the context you were you were selectively choosing context. I was just quoting you. I'm sorry for I go T a V for pictures. Yeah.

Mm hmm. Definitely. Yeah. Okay, PFT. Good. Firefest. Great fire. I'm glad we cleared that all up. My week's been pretty good overall. I would say that my Fire Fest is mostly something that I realized last week watching football. And really, as the college football playoff began, I started to realize this, that there are only like five commercials in the world. Only five commercials exist, and I'm sick of all five of them.

And I've seen all of them. And the commercials, you basically have your pick of the State Farm Cinematic Universe, which includes Derrick Henry, Mahomes, all that stuff. You've got some, usually, a product with Shaq in it is one of the options that you have. Then you've got Flow. And just a lot of insurance out there.

There's only five commercials anymore. We used to have lots of commercials. Yeah, and you get- Now they gone and you get caught in these caught in these times where you're like, you know We watch a lot of sports but like when you're really like March Madness when you're really watching sports wall-to-wall It's like shit. Yeah, that's it. And that's all you get and you see them over and over and over I feel like it's gotten more limited in scope to shout out YouTube's TV by the way The Zen yeah is the best and I don't I don't actually like cools my brain down it's really good and I don't want to sound like I'm talking shit about the NFL or their corporate partners or their messaging I respect the NFL's ability to never I would never

they priced out the little guys I used to be racist as fuck until the NFL painted in racism in the end zone yep and so I pay attention when Roger Goodell speaks yeah and I just want to say constructive feedback, Roger Goodell, give us different commercials. This shit sucks. I'd agree. I'd agree. All right. My fire fest is I I'm solo dadding this weekend. So I'm probably gonna miss the commander's lion stream. Apologies, PFT. It's okay. I'm gonna try to be in for the Texans chiefs where I have a little help but the menu is gonna get it's gonna get tight we're gonna do a chicken nuggets chicken nuggets and mac and cheese and that it that's it and

that is it Annie's yeah oh yeah oh yeah got it Annie's elite but yeah we got a silverware and and cutlery and plate situation are we working with the two older ones use regular plates and silverware the youngest still uses his hands mostly and Plastic plate yeah likes to throw shit everywhere. I would just lay down a tarp. Yeah I should like your garbage bag. I should put yeah, I should put it like a trough out And are you hoping for like bedtime by the commander's game? Are you hoping like halftime?

I'm going to probably be watching the first half of the commander's lines game. No sound Well, we watch minions on the top TV So yeah, that will be my reality But just being honest, but it's only that one game. I'll be in on Sunday all day Sunday So but yeah, I gotta Just power through it But yeah, that's why so if you tune on the stream on Sunday night And I'm not there or I might not even be here for the Saturday afternoon one. I'm gonna try to make it in

That's why So yeah, wish me luck. I got this. Good luck. I got this. Good luck We're gonna have the beef is gonna be on from heart that Kate's mr Beave is gonna be there giving me moral support A fellow commanders fan. Yeah, love that also reverse fire fest I just love everyone in this room and all of our listeners so goddamn much and we that's really just been a tough couple weeks But it's it's great. I got a little teary-eyed actually last night driving home because I was just like It was a nice perspective of being like damn you know the internet's a scary place, tough

place but there's a lot of people who care a lot about us and it's it's good to have that moment and then everyone in this room I'd fucking die for it take a bullet for. Yeah we love it too. I know it's been a tough few months for you. Yes, few months. I didn't realize that you lost how much like 15 pounds says not been eating. Yeah, I literally it's not like a It's not even conscious. It's like lunch happens and I just walk right by it. I'm like, I have no appetite and stress but Gotta just we're powering through I didn't even tell you this is just a funny if we're doing reverse firefests It's just an anecdote that's made me laugh since it happened, but I went out to dinner with Stu on

Wednesday or Tuesday just me and him and and you know a few months ago I was talking about quitting smoking I have quitting smoking and he also used to be like the biggest pothead of all time He has also quit so we were talking about that and like talking about how like weird dreams and shit And I was like, you know, do you think you'll ever like start again? He's like no, I can't like the his diabetes or whatever it is. He's like, I just can't smoke like I can't eat carbs after he had just eaten like two appetizers Like a massive pasta meal and then ate like half of my chicken parm. I was dying

He's like, yeah, you know, I just can't eat the carbs. And I was like, dude, you just fucking wolf down like to a Italian dinner for three. It's like, uh, it's like, yeah, you know, I just can't, I can't smoke and I can't do cops. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, what? It's like the member of the mincy picture of him at the barbecue joint. He's like, no sugar. All the barbecue. Yeah. Wait, backs, you didn't do your fire. Festival at the bachelor parties. You didn't say it. I didn't say anything Go ahead Bachelor parties a lot of bachelor parties. Yeah That's basically it and I also can't I'm not picking the bachelor party. We are or bachelor

right so that's why everyone the amount of texts that I've gotten from people that I've met like one time six years ago being like You have to come to my batch. I It's never been more of a thing in my entire life And I can't keep track of it all I guess if you guys want to do that one we can do that I like I like giving you the illusion of having a choice, but ultimately we're gonna be correct But that's why I think we need I need I'm putting out a Google form So then it's just organized in one place who's going over the Google form not not me

Not me. I will oh, I don't want Hank do it either. I will Are you gonna go over the Google form in Vanny woodhead when he's driving down the street? Very wouldn't buzz okay, okay? Yeah, that's a mic. I'll do that. I'll know we charge you I'll be charged of the Google doc and as my first act of being in charge I'd like to delegate that task to Hank. I've done actually know what Hank I need you to report to me though, you know report to max We know we should do is because you know we have a lot of work I think we should delegate the Google Doc to one Stephen Che No, he's a Google Doc master. No, but he'll do still like give max. It'll be like oh like you know go to

Chicago no, but he'll do still like give max. It'll be like oh like you know go to Chicago no, but he'll get us down to a hundred True I honestly haven't seen that many people send us DMS. I haven't either yeah I was like I'm surprised with the lack of a WL is getting married Yeah here in there I get a couple most people are just sending them to me, and I just have to say I can't so keep sending them I guess it's not have you gotten like ten? Yeah, that's our way of saying that We'd like to see a lot more. What's going on? What's going on? You got five bachelor party requests like five thousand

All right good show boys football this weekend can't wait only what how many games left It's final for this weekend seven seven eight counting the national championship eight games of football left enjoy the fuck out of every second okay numbers five three eleven seventeen AJ Brown's gonna have a game eleven hype video coming out Friday. 100. It's already started. 99, Puck. 54. 98. Right on it. Fuck fuck love you guys also Shane wants a nickname later in the clubhouse is graphics guy yeah Shane has requested a nickname shame wants a

nickname yeah he said I'd like a nickname I've never had a nickname before so memes posted a picture of him I think a pretty up-to-date photo like yesterday I have one for you Tom For Frinelli had a great suggestion, which was graphics guy. That's good That is so far the leading vocoder. I suggested Zane. Shane, I have one for you, but we've discussed it I don't think it would be poppy. No What's here? You know which one I'm gonna say I can't say it. Oh don't yeah Why not? Graphics guy a lot of votes GG love you guys So so So

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