Pardon My Take - CJ McCollum, Sports Are Back, And Opting Out Is The New Rage
Episode Date: August 3, 2020We're back after Grit Week and sports are all the way back. Recapping a weekend with all the leagues playing (2:30 - 6:19). Zion's burst restrictions and the MLB hanging on by a thread (6:19 - 17:45).... Who's back of the week including Brooks owning Bryson, opting out, and Pac 12 players reading the Art of the Deal (17:45 - 37:32). Blazers guard CJ McCollum joins the show to talk about the NBA Bubble, being back in action, slim Melo, his new moves and more (37:32 - 79:34). Segments include Trouble in Paradise for Aaron Rodgers, PR 101 for the Mets and Yoenis Cespedes.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake
Transcript
Discussion (0)
Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify,
or YouTube.
Prime members can listen, ad-free, on Amazon Music.
On today's pardon my take, we have recurring guest friend of the program, CJ McCollum from
the NBA Bubble.
We interviewed him actually during Grit Week, Grit Week Stream.
So we interviewed him on Thursday Wednesday.
It was like hour two of the stream, I believe.
Yeah, Wednesday.
Yes.
Awesome interview with him.
He's one of our favorite recurring guests.
Been too long, but we get a good look into what the bubble life is like, how he feels
about Slim Mellow being a walking bucket, and much, much more.
We have sports officially all the way back.
It felt great.
We're going to talk about that.
Who's back of the week, PR101 for the Mets, because everyone thought that Jose, how did
you say his name, Billy?
Jose?
Cispedes.
No, but what did you say originally?
I said Jose Cispedes.
Yeah.
So Jose Cispedes was dead for like five minutes, and now he's opting out.
We'll get to that.
And before we do all of that, our friends at the Cash App, we are always presented by
the Cash App.
We're in the Cash App Studio.
The pardon my take loves the Cash App.
It is the easiest place to send money to your friends.
It's also the safest.
The number one social distancing app in the world, the number one app in the world.
So use the Cash App.
You can link it directly to your bank account.
It is super, super easy.
Make sure that you're using the Cash App.
They're also giving away money on Twitch all the time, on Instagram, on Twitter.
Just check it out.
Follow the Cash App wherever they are.
Be a Cash App simp.
We are Cash App simps.
And of course, when you download the Cash App and enter the referral code barstool, you'll
receive $10 and $10 to go to the ASPCA.
So download the Cash App from the App Store or Google Play Store today.
Get your free $10.
Get $10 to the ASPCA.
Do some good.
And that is the name of the game with the Cash App.
Okay, let's go.
Welcome to part of my take presented by the Cash App.
Go download it right now.
Use code barstool.
You get $10 for free.
$10 to the ASPCA.
Today is Monday, August 3rd.
And sports are all the way back.
It was so fucking good this weekend.
I got the three TVs set up again.
I fired them all up to have something on all three.
NBA, MLB, hockey, horse racing.
Fuck yes, guys.
It was tough.
It was actually a little bit tough on like Thursday, Friday night because I'm, you know,
I'm making the transition to a new cable system in my apartment right now.
So I don't have my back button ready to go.
I don't have the channels all set up in the back of my mind.
So it was pretty, it was preseason for sports viewers too, but it was awesome, especially
Friday night, especially Saturday night, especially Sunday during the day when golf
got in the mix.
It was sports all the way being back and it felt really, really good.
It was, it's crazy to think of a time when we didn't have sports, but we see or seemingly
in the clear.
And I say seemingly just because we don't know what's going to happen with baseball.
I feel like every single team has had positives actually, except for the Cubs shout out to
Cubs.
They should probably win it.
If the Cubs are the only team that don't get a Corona positive, do they win the title?
Yeah.
Chris Bryant has diarrhea.
Yeah.
So just, just smart.
It's actually very, very smart in his part to just call it diarrhea.
Nobody will ever ask you to follow.
They just didn't want to explain, didn't want to play and was like, I think I might have
Corona.
No, well, yeah, he gave himself a pin straight in all seriousness.
Like Rob Manford being like, I'm going to threaten you guys.
If you don't start following the rules, we're going to cancel the league.
I don't, is Rob Manford, does he realize he's a commissioner?
He's the one who can, who can help like he could maybe put in place a rule that if you
get caught doing something that puts everyone else in jeopardy, you can be suspended for
the rest of the year.
Like the Cubs don't have a positive and I think it is because Anthony Rizzo and John
Lester are cancer survivors.
So they're taking extra, extra precaution, but they're showing that you're able to do
it by being extra, extra, extra precautious and not being fucking idiots.
And I just don't understand why Rob Manford, like his statement on Friday where he threatened
everyone like, Hey, if you don't start following the rules, we're canceling this shit.
It's like, dude, you are the commissioner.
Yo, he said that the players need to do a better job.
He's like, the players need to do a better job.
You know what, Rob Manford, I don't recall you ever saying to cancel Jersey exchanges
after games.
That's a good step you could take.
Maybe ban or only do a divisional play like college football.
That seems to work for them so far.
Well, we're kind of doing that.
Yeah.
It's geographical.
Yeah.
Saying geographical with it, maybe get involved in some of the text threads that they've got
going on where they decide, where the, you're giving the players the power where they decide
whether or not they want to play that day.
These are all just like things that a commissioner should be taken care of.
And in American sports, you really only have to be slightly better than the hockey commissioner.
As long as you can stay, as long as you can stay like slightly less problematic than the
commissioner of the NHL, then your job is safe.
Rob Manford has put himself in the crossroads big time.
He just has to, Rob Manford has to go to bed every single night.
He probably, he like, right in his nightstand, he pulls out his Roger Goodell voodoo doll
and starts poking it with pins, being like, please fuck this up, Goodell, please fuck
this up.
Because if you fuck this up, no one will give a shit, you know, no one will care that I
have been an absolute debacle with handling Major League Baseball coming back.
Well you know how when you're playing golf and somebody hits their shot and you get to
see their lie, right?
I've seen it on television.
I think Hank brought it up when we were playing Mario Party or something like that.
But you get to see the lie.
Should we play some Mario Party after this, by the way?
I'm down.
Maybe 35 turns?
Okay, keep going.
I'll spot you four stars.
Sorry, we should just go live.
But you know what I'm saying?
You get to see somebody's lie.
You get to see what the putt's going to look like when you hit it.
That is exactly what's happening right now for Roger Goodell with Baseball.
Because the NFL model right now is essentially Baseball's model.
You start out with a training camp, you start out with something that's more controlled
where you can kind of monitor the comings and goings of the players and the coaches.
And then once the season starts, you're kind of just left up to the best devices of your
coach and your captains and there's no real rules, there's no bubble.
Right now the NFL is getting a prime example of what happens when you don't have a system
in place.
So Goodell, if he's smart, he should be looking at this putt that is drifting wide to the
right and he should take his line accordingly and be like, hey, maybe we should have some
sort of regulation.
The one thing that I think the NFL still has going for it is that pretty much everyone
wants to know.
I was going to say that pretty much every single player is just going to lie when they
have coronavirus.
I think there will be a whole team that's sick and we just won't know about it.
Well, yeah, that's if Shiana was still in the league.
It's in the culture of the NFL to be like, no, we're good.
I don't have coronavirus.
It's going to be the Raiders because John Gruden already said that he wants to smash
the COVID virus into the ground.
Right.
So I honestly believe that John Gruden could defeat the coronavirus.
So it's mental.
Either way, MLB, it'll be for now.
For now, MLB is back, but it was great basketball.
I'm going to give all the credit in the world of basketball because the games, like with
no fans, they've made it as good as possible.
Yeah, they really have.
The atmosphere is cool.
The fans, the digital fans are a little weird, but I still, it's still nice to visually
see that like something is going on in the background that's not just completely empty
gym.
And I just, the whole thing, they've done a great job.
The game is good.
It feels like really feels like good games and fun and I'm thinking about the playoffs
and it's going to be exciting and it's going to be super interesting.
And guess what?
They're in a bubble.
So we aren't worried about it.
It's like baseball where we're like, Hey, let's enjoy baseball for a couple of days
because it might be taken away from us at any moment.
The piped in crowd noise is pretty cool.
I really want to be in charge of controlling the booze.
I love when the booze kick in like there's some guy who's like, Okay, yeah, we need to
boo this call.
And you know that the refs are pissed off.
You know that Joey Crawford would eject a digital fan if he was still in the league
and that would be amazing to watch.
My only qualm with a digital fan is for some reason, they don't make every seat filled
with the fans.
Like they're like one out of every five seats just doesn't have a digital fan.
Right.
Like you could just, you know that you don't have to have that seat empty right there.
Right.
They don't need to social distance.
They're not actually in the stands.
My only issue with the way the NBA is going is they really need to figure out a way to
limit the amount of oxygen that goes in when the nuggets have a home game.
I think that would be cool.
Yeah.
To give one, to have one thing be like, Hey, that's that's similar to playing on the road
in Denver.
Let's put Jack Nicholson front in the front and center at the Lakers games.
That's pretty cool.
Or the Lakers got have Drake be at every single game wearing a different jersey.
That'd be sick too.
But it really has like when you're watching these NBA games, it doesn't for as weird as
this year has been and as weird as sports have been.
It really is as as like close to the real thing as you can get.
I thought that EPL soccer did a pretty good job too.
Yeah.
With a chance and everything like that.
Yeah.
I'm talking about America.
Yeah.
Americans real sports.
Stay on track.
You know what they should do?
Let's just like dive in all the way when it comes to digital enhancements and let's give
some more hair to Alex Caruso or just shave it bald Alex, either way, dude, Alex Caruso.
There was a, did you guys see the funny meme of J.R. Smith, like looking very quizzically
at the back of Caruso's jersey?
Yeah.
I thought his last name was Caruso.
Yeah.
Because that part does get a little confusing when everyone's obviously they have different
messages on the back of their jerseys.
And then I'm pretty sure Kawhi, which is so Kawhi.
He's like, No, I'm just, he's just.
Leonard.
Yeah.
I'm Leonard.
He's Leonard.
The Clippers are weird because the Clippers have like five or six players that have the
messages at the top.
And then if you kept your real name, it's at the bottom.
You get the tramp stamp with your last name on it in the smaller back.
I just love the Kawhi.
And he, there was even a clip of Kawhi getting fucked with by one of the Morris twins and
he's just still not having any of it.
It's pretty fucked up that the robot fans aren't all cheering for Kawhi.
Yes.
Traders.
Yes.
Then hockey was great too.
Yeah.
Hockey was great.
Well, I had that big.
That way.
It just said end racism.
Oh, I thought.
Yes.
No, no.
Just said end racism to start.
And I was like, Damn, that's a good idea.
Like on the ice.
Like, why didn't we think of that?
Oh, like on the ice.
No, it was just a big banner to start every game.
She said end racism.
I was like, Got a point.
It'd be pretty sick.
You should probably cut that shit out.
It'd be pretty sick.
If hockey just like hired some goon, like a Cam Neely looking dude to skate out onto the
ice before every game wearing a jersey that just just said racism on the back and then
just get the shit kicked out of him by one of the enforcers.
Yeah.
That'd be fucking sweet.
Yeah.
Be like the Vegas Knights, you know, pregame hold when they have the EDM concert.
But yeah, hockey was great.
It was great.
Like that was another one where they've done a really good job.
It feels obviously nothing's going to feel like playoff hockey without the crowds, but
it's as close as it can get.
Can I jump back real quick to Alex Caruso because I love Alex Caruso because he has
now reached the point.
I wrote this down when I was watching the game, he has become he started out being underrated,
but then he was so underrated that he became overrated.
But now it's swung back and now he's like overratedly underrated.
So now he's underrated again.
And so every time he makes a good defensive play, the announcers have to remind us like
Alex Caruso, really good athlete, very good defensively.
And so soon, probably I'd say like in the next two weeks, it'll swing back the other
way where he'll be overrated again.
But I love watching that pendulum swing on a scrappy, gritty coach's son type like Alex.
Yes.
And the only complaint I had about the NBA really was that I don't know who missed the
message, but the Pelicans not realizing the whole reason they were invited was to get
Zion in the playoffs and then playing him 29 minutes over two games, which I get the
second game was a blowout of all blowouts.
But still, we wanted to watch Zion.
He's a little heavy, but we still wanted to watch him.
And you've played him 29 minutes in two games.
He runs when he runs, he's like leaning forward like a like a tired eight year old.
Have you noticed that about he like stops his feet?
Yeah.
And he just like kind of starts tilting forward.
But it's burst restriction, bro.
I just I really wish it's burst restriction.
We really should just skip for the NBA should just put their hand up and be like, you know
what, these next six games of the regular season, we're going to cancel them because
the Pelicans are not going to play ball.
Can you tell me what the difference between burst restriction and load management is?
No, they're just different ways to taunt us to not make premature ejaculation jokes.
Also our board JJ got got done dirty.
Oh, God, it was they went sad face on everyone, but yeah, this was especially sad.
So is this going to be what the first time in 12 years that JJ doesn't make the playoffs?
Yes.
Yes, it's going to be sad.
End of an era.
Yeah.
And he's going to be on the pot on Wednesday too.
So we'll have to bring that up to him over and over like, dude, that sucks.
It's going to be weird.
Is it going to be weird not losing the first round this year?
Is it going to be weird not playing in August?
Yeah.
Must be crazy.
JJ Reddick golf clubs meme, the old the old the Vetskin one.
Can I can I bum you guys out though for a second?
No, no, I'm so good.
I know.
But I know what I thought.
Bum us out.
It felt so bad on Thursday doing wins.
I know Friday show and now it feels so good on a fully recovered.
By the way, you're you have to hear you were so drunk and tired.
Yeah, maybe because I drank 20 years and 20 your idea of when we were about to tape
it like noon and you're like, what if we just went and took naps and we just did the rest
of the show at like 9 p.m.
And it was all time future you moment where you're like, I just push this off.
I don't think you truly understood like where my brain was at that point because yeah, it's
not.
I love you guys halfway through the show.
It's not.
Well, I do love them.
I love them double time that episode, but it sucks so bad.
I'm sure it's not having to eat all those hot dogs, but like I was not myself at that
point because there was so much fucking alcohol.
It was such a funny idea to be like, let's do this in nine hours.
So I go home.
I go home.
I fall asleep on my floor on the floor of my apartment and I'm laying on Leroy's chest
and I woke up because Leroy kind of tried to stand up and I go, what is it Billy and
Leroy just looked at me and I was like, I mean, I mean, buddy, but I definitely didn't call
you Billy.
Every time I close my eyes, I would just see Mario Party and I would hear the sounds from
Mario Party.
It was just like, it fucked me up for about 12 hours.
So by the way, the final tally for the grip week, 24 hour stream, I'll wait to bum us
out.
I'll wait to bum us out.
I'll do it.
We'll do it as a segment.
I'll do it.
Let's bum us out for a second as a segment or ride high for a little bit longer.
Final tally.
We got just shy of $30,000 that we are donating.
So shout out to all the AWLs to Warren Sharp and to Matt Walsh who also donated a bunch
of money and the cash app.
So $30,000 that we are going to be donating to the kids, the hospital network.
That's fucking awesome for something that we didn't really like set up a lot beforehand
that we're going to do the donation.
But thank you everyone who donated.
That's fucking cool.
And we also have the grit fridge, which we are giving away to three people.
We said we're going to give away one grit fridge.
We're giving away three.
So we'll tweet this out as well.
But where's the where's the text message I sent?
Fuck.
Where'd you?
We have two different texts.
Oh Hank just okay.
Salvatore.
Terra Mina.
That's a good fantasy.
Fuck boy's name.
You want a grit fridge.
Derek Gillingham.
You want a grit fridge and Sydney Keto.
You want a grit fridge.
So shout out those people.
Thank you everyone who use the hashtag.
Those people will be getting grit fridges.
So I'm going to bum this out after later in the segments.
Do we want to do?
Should we do who's back?
Let's do some hoops back in a week.
Before we do who's back, a quick word from our friends at whoop.
Whoop is the best fitness app you've ever seen.
We actually were talking beforehand, not sleeping for an entire night, made our whoop just like
lose its mind.
Because one of the things that grades you on is how well you slept and where it goes.
Everybody sleeps a little bit at night.
Yes.
We're back on track with our whoop.
You know everything about how your favorite team is dealing with the pandemic, but do
you know enough about you?
Whoop is a 24 seven health and fitness tracker that changes that by monitoring critical daily
metrics like sleep, recovery and strain.
We've been wearing our bands for a couple months now and it's been awesome to track
our sleep and activity during quarantine, whether you're looking to sleep better training
for an event or just looking to lose a couple pounds.
Whoop can help you make smarter lifestyle choices and help you perform at your best.
I'm telling you this right now.
There's nothing that will get your ass in the gym more than blogging on your whoop and seeing
that you are ready for a full strain day, that you have full recovery, that you've slept
well, that your body's rested.
There's no excuse.
So when you see that whoop is telling you, come on dude, let's get it going.
That's why whoop is great.
The way it works is you wear the whoop band around your wrist all day and the band connects
with an app on your phone.
It automatically measures your heart rate, calories and activity levels throughout the
day.
So you don't ever have to stop and start for workouts.
There's also a built-in sleep coach, which lets you know how much you sleep.
And Billy football also spent the month of July competing against award-winning listeners
but the training doesn't stop now.
You can join the official Barstool team on whoop to compare your stats with fellow award-winning
listeners.
We've got over 1,000 people on the team with code COM COMM dash B stool on the app.
Whoop is offering 15% off right now with code TAKE at checkout.
Go to whoop, w-h-o-o-p dot com, enter code TAKE out or TAKE, sorry, at checkout.
So that's whoop, w-h-o-o-p dot com, enter code TAKE at checkout to save 15% off.
Sleep better, recover faster and train smarter, optimize your performance with whoop today.
Okay, who's back of the week?
Who's back?
Should I go first?
Do you want to go first?
No, Hank.
Why don't you go first?
Hank, you always go first.
Why are you being passive-aggressive?
Go first.
Usually I get queued up.
I don't want to speak out of turn.
Why are you being coy, Roy?
Who's back of the week?
It's Ants.
Oh, okay.
So last week we talked when Bryson was trying to get the rules official to give him a drop
because there was some ants nearby.
This weekend our boy Blake Kepka, aka Brooks, he trolled them.
He hit it into a similar area where they were out.
No, that was the same day.
That was on Thursday.
Bryson flipped out because there were two ants around and then the next day Blake did
that.
That's what I said.
Anyway.
I thought you said last week.
Well, on Thursday's show we talked about it, which was last week.
On Friday's episode.
We talked about Bryson on Thursday.
Follow-up, Brooks hit it into the same place and he trolled Bryson.
I honestly don't remember talking about Bryson on Thursday.
He went up to the rules official.
He was like, can I get a drop?
There's ants over here.
The rules official started to come over.
He's like, I'm just kidding.
So he was trolling around.
It was great.
Then there was this tweet, which apparently it's from 2019, but it's still scary nonetheless.
It was going viral.
It said, 1 million cannibal ants trapped in Soviet nuclear weapons bunker have escaped.
Fuck.
So are they, is it like a Spider-Man situation?
No, it's more like a Rat Island situation.
What about an Ant-Man situation?
Paul Rudd.
Or is this like a nuclear meltdown situation?
No, it's just like, instead of regular ant or nuclear ants that can kill you and their
cannibals.
Hey, you should tweet that tweet at Bryson every morning.
Just to scare him.
The ants escaping?
Dude, Blake is the best.
The Bryson is such a bitch and then Blake's like, hey dude, we play golf.
Chill the fuck out and play golf.
So when Bryson did that, when I saw the video and shit of him freaking out about the two
fire ants, I thought it was fake.
I could not believe that it was real.
I couldn't believe that a grown man would be like, there's one ant here and then wait,
I've got two ants near my ball.
And then he calls a rules official over to alert them to the fact that there are two
ants next to his ball.
He's just, I don't want to say that I respect what a bitch he is, but because I don't, but
I like having a bitch.
I like having a bitch around that you can be like, hey, that's a bitch.
If he had like a little bit of, um, ain't on the joke sensibility to it, it would be
totally different, but he doesn't know he does not.
And so we need Brooks, the common man, the people's golfer to keep them in check.
And uh, that was great.
Great by Brooks.
Bryson, you're still a bitch.
And then Bryson said that he, he hopes that he can live to be 130 or 140 God, maybe in
dog years.
I really hope I don't live long because I'd have to be on the same earth as Bryson.
Yeah.
Bryson's really challenging.
He's playing chicken with all of us.
Yeah.
Right.
Like, oh, you wanted to live to your nineties.
Well, guess what?
That's another 55 more years of Bryson Dishambo.
It's Bryson being like, Hey, I'm going to live till I'm 140 and challenging all those
peers to not kill themselves.
He would be such an asshole too.
If he got to 140, he'd be telling everyone about it.
Oh yeah.
There's the whole town.
Hey, I'm 140.
I'm Bryson Dishambo.
Still wearing those stupid fucking hats.
Dude, you know what's bad?
Bryson, just a heads up.
Uh, you know what's not good for your health?
Steroids.
I was going to say, it's bad when you're Royd raging against ants.
Yeah.
That's nice.
And life expectancy.
Check yourself.
Yeah.
Bolt those things.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's Royd raging against, against his own biological clot.
Against his own body.
Against science, his senses.
Yeah.
He'd beat a bitch, Bryson, if you're going to die when you're 100.
All right, PFT, who's your who's back?
My who's back of the week is Mike Lennon.
Yes.
Mike Lennon is back, baby, because, bless you Hank, because Gardner Menchew has opted
out of the 2020 NFL season.
And I had to look up who the Jaguar's backup quarterback is.
Turns out it's Mike Lennon.
So we've got him back.
The neck is back.
How, how amazing would that be if Mike Lennon went out there and tore shit up and then
Nick Foles was a quarterback for the Bears and Stunk?
Oh, it'd be so great.
So many photoshop.
So listen, this is what it could look like if Mike Lennon was a Bears quarterback.
I've been down the Glen and Tra whole thing.
He is not a good quarterback.
Holy shit.
You know, you know what he's really good for though?
Every year we have to have at least one quarterback.
That's the perfect person for half of Twitter to quote tweet and be like Colin Kaepernick
isn't on an NFL team, but this person is Mike Lennon is the perfect person to focus
all your attention on there.
By the way, we were to Liam and I were talking before the show.
I hope that through everything that happens in this world in this past year, the one thing
that we keep going with is whenever we just quit something, we say opt out because it's
great.
Like I'm going to start opting out.
Like dinner.
Yeah.
That's a bad example.
No.
When I start losing in a video game, I'm opting out.
Is it a rage playing?
I'm not quitting.
I'm opting out.
I'm simply opting out.
Are you going to tell me I can't opt out?
This workout?
Opting out.
I like that.
Yeah.
It's a way nicer way of saying I'm just not going to do that shit.
I'm just a glitter dude.
I'm just opting out.
I'm not belittling anyone who is opting out because there's actual health issues.
I'm saying we need to recapture opting out for our pathetic reasons that we're actually
pussies in our real life.
Like they're not, but we are.
So we're going to take opt out and use it for our lame reasons.
We're going to co-opt it.
Co-opt out.
Right.
All right.
Can we just opt out of doing a podcast?
Yeah.
We can opt out on anything dude.
Yeah.
But imagine you just, you send in your opt out letter.
I'm opting out of sex.
I'm out of here.
I'm opting out.
Tontra Willis is pitching tonight.
Someone who's listening right now who might be thinking, considering quitting their job
sometime in the future, please do it by opting out.
That'd be great.
I actually would be curious to see if somebody could quit their job, but say that they're
opting out and then still collect a salary.
Try it.
Try it and let us know how it goes.
Yeah.
It's worth giving it a shot.
Yes.
Opting out.
I didn't realize Gardner opted out.
That sucks.
Yeah.
He opted out today.
I don't know.
I'm very unclear about the rules.
CJ Mosley opted out.
The Jets are going to be, that's a problem for the Jets.
So that's just not wanting to play for the Jets.
You're just opting out of playing for either the Jets or Mets.
It should also always be a free pass.
I don't think you opted out.
I think you just caught Corona.
No, no.
Gardner, Minshew?
Yeah.
Or Mosley.
I'm pretty sure Mosley opted out.
I think they both opted out.
Minshew.
Minshew did not opt out.
Oh, wow.
Really?
Yeah.
PFT.
Jaguars placed five players on the reserve slash COVID-19 list.
That's just like, that's like a, he's just Corona.
PFT's having a fall.
Oh, he has Corona.
PFT, you should have opted out of this.
No, but I was on the same page as PFT.
But wait, when I saw that, I want to opt out.
Yeah, when I said, hey, when you saw that, what did it, it seemed like he was opting
out.
Right.
Yes.
But it's still being negotiated and finalized, but the players opted out to line at this
point is looking like Wednesday.
So he just has Corona right now.
So they put him on the list of players that aren't going to be training because of Corona.
Okay.
Would you like to opt out of this episode?
No, no.
So that could be.
There's five players and apparently three of them, they're all roommates.
Minshew.
Got it.
Walker and Wingardt.
I was going to say Gardner Minshew doesn't seem like a guy who's going to opt out.
But he doesn't have a family.
I get it.
For people who are at families and like, there's real reasons guys are opting out.
And I totally understand it, but I'd be shocked if Minshew did.
Okay.
Cause he falls in the same category as Matt Stafford.
So both those players, it's a list.
The COVID-19 list is for players who either tested positive or who have been quarantined
after having been in close contact with an infected person or persons.
We're all learning together here.
So he has not opted out.
So he has, neither one of those players have opted out as far as I can tell, but they are
on the COVID-19 list, which means that they're Sieb's, they're just chilling for a while
until they test, all the tests come back negative.
Got it.
Got it.
So we could have no Glennon.
We could have.
Well, Glennon is going to be there.
But we could have no Glennon that we have to watch.
I think that the probability is high that we have a Mike Glennon sighting this year.
Do you think Gardner Minshew is going to opt out?
No.
I hope not.
He's fun.
He will keep, he will keep the Jaguars fun.
Yep.
If the Jaguars want to tank, go with Glennon.
That's all I'm saying.
They could go with Gardner too and just have fun and lose.
It's a more aesthetically pleasing way to tank with Gardner Minshew versus Mike Glennon.
I don't think there's a quarterback room in the NFL that has two different starting
quarterbacks that are so different as Gardner Minshew and Mike Glennon.
They don't even speak the same language.
Yeah.
They're like a Nickelodeon cartoon.
Yeah.
Yeah.
My who's back of the week is Darren Revelle.
Darren Revelle's back.
He's fucking clapping back, boys.
I'd like to opt out of this part of the segment.
Dude, he's clapping back.
Darren Revelle's clapping back so much that he does this thing where when he claps back
on someone, he'll then post it on his Instagram too to show the world how much he clapped
back.
You ready for this clapback?
Someone said, Darren, I don't know you in real life, but judging you from your Twitter
persona, you literally would be the last person invited to any of the fun shit I'm
going to later today.
And he clapped back with, as a 42 year old man with a wife and three children, an awesome
BBQ and a great backyard.
I doubt I would come even if you invited me.
Roasted.
Dude, he's got a wife, three kids.
I also liked that he used awesome BBQ and great backyard, but he just plainly said his
wife and three children.
He wasn't like, I have a great wife and three amazing children.
No.
The super, super relatives are meant for the BBQ and the great backyard.
What kind of barbecue do you think Darren actually has?
I highly doubt.
Dude, who flexes an awesome BBQ?
I highly doubt that Darren Revelle's BBQ is awesome.
I think he's probably got a mid-range back yard because he posts it on Instagram like
every two minutes.
What kind of barbecue does he have?
It's fine.
He has a huge back yard.
Yeah, I'm sure he does.
Who says I have an awesome BBQ?
Somebody that has an awesome BBQ has one.
A dork.
I...
You do?
You say you have an awesome BBQ?
I have a second-hand Weber that...
Yeah, exactly.
Sick.
Exactly.
It's awesome.
When you described it, you know what you said?
You said what you had.
Yes.
You said I have a second-hand Weber.
I have a pre-owned Weber.
Yeah.
If you have an awesome BBQ, you don't say I have an awesome BBQ.
You say, I took half of an oil drum and I cleaned it out with my buddies, we welded
in a couple of racks.
You've trash-fired.
You explain exactly what your barbecue is if it's awesome.
An awesome BBQ.
You know what that tells me?
It tells me he's got a fucking propane tank that he has to wheel in and out like a bitch
every week and probably two burners on that motherfucker.
Yeah.
I got an awesome chicken coop in my backyard.
An awesome BBQ.
You want to come over to my awesome BBQ?
Everyone's BBQ is awesome.
It's fun.
That's what it is.
You're just grilling meats.
It's pretty fucking cool.
I just love...
I love that that was a clapback.
If you have a little green egg, you say I have a little green egg.
You don't say, hey, I've got a pretty cool meat smoking device out back.
So yeah, a 42-year-old man with a wife and three children and an awesome BBQ.
I can't believe he's 42.
Yeah.
It always is shocking.
It really is.
He's got the brain of a 140-year-old Bryson DeChambeau.
Dude, it's like Wilford Brimley, RIP.
That guy has been old his whole life.
Yes.
I mean, he was born old.
Yeah.
I mean, the diabetes guy.
When you're known as being the spokesperson for a debilitating disease and when you're
alive that long, it's always shocking when you do that for life.
Wilford?
They don't make Wilfords anymore.
I'd say first...
Oh, we've got the opt-out list.
Opt-out list, buddy.
Anybody new here?
Oh, Lorenzo Cain did opt-out recently.
Okay.
And you and his Cespidus, which we will get to.
I like when they just use the MLB logo instead of the team logo.
Tyson Ross, he wasn't on our team.
It's like this person is opting out of being an athlete this year.
This person's opting out, but no one wanted him on their team anyway.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
But he's opt-out.
I'm an opt-out.
Yeah.
I'm just soft.
Who's back of the week?
Who's back of the week?
Do a real quick one.
Murder Hornets.
There was another link posted that they're back and whatever, but I don't want to give
them airtime.
Okay.
You know what you're doing, Billy?
You're falling for the New York Post quote, tweet, Olympics game.
They've been on a fucking tear recently and they're getting you too.
They're just like trying to make a story where they're on the hunt for this like murder Hornet
nest and then you find it before there's a second nest and they spread and it's too
late.
And I was like, you know, that's like get Bruce Willis on that as like an exterminator.
Yeah.
Or something.
But my real who's back of the week is seasons.
Yeah.
Dude, it's August.
Yeah.
That's not the change of season.
It's still summer.
Sunday of summer.
Sunday of summer.
Yeah.
Well, September's still summer.
No.
I mean, August for me is always like, oh, it's Sunday.
Oh, because back to school.
Yeah.
You're still in the mode where like you go to the department store with your mom and
you see backpacks on sale and you start sweating.
Yeah.
Dude, the back of the school commercial is the worst.
Like the I'm having a little bit of like anxiety, like, oh, shit, like what the fuck.
So, so now I welcome to the real world.
Like that doesn't happen anymore.
Yeah.
Your summers are meeting.
It's actually August.
It's great now because football is around the corner.
Should I just drop out of school?
Yes.
You should have done that three years.
I'm opting out of college.
I'm opting out of college.
First try to get a bunch of your teammates to like make demands just in case they give
you some shit.
Oh, you saw what happened.
What's going on with pack 12?
Yes.
The players are they're banding together.
And they're like, hey, which to their credit, like, it doesn't really seem like colleges
have thought out the whole we have students on campus and athletes on campus together
and they're both taking different precautions.
So to their credit, it's like, yeah, we're not being looked after and we're here to make
money for you.
So why don't you do something about it?
You should still like just try to get one last thing for deep for D three football players.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Credit to pack 12.
They obviously read Art of the deal because they anchored the fuck out of that negotiation.
They were asking for some crazy shit.
They just skip they just pass go and they're like, yeah, we want to be paid to.
Yeah.
Go over it.
Yeah.
What's the worst they're going to say?
Like the very worst thing that could happen is you're at the same place that you're at
now.
So why not ask for everything?
Yeah.
Ask for money and you might wind up with some like good COVID tests.
Yeah.
That's kind of what they're hoping for.
Yeah.
We'll give you a mask.
Yeah.
But all you have to do is ask for everybody.
They know Larry Scott's not going to do it.
So they got to fucking, you know, shoot for the moon.
All right.
Yeah.
So you should.
Yeah.
He's the worst man.
Yeah.
He's the worst commissioner in all sports.
I could see Larry Scott implementing a shrewt bucks type system where he just make like Scott's
dollars.
And he just hands out like $20 per practice that you attend to all the players, which
will be redeemable in like 30 years.
Yes.
For a piece of his estate.
He's why the pack 12 you can't watch like half the games.
He's why like they're they have it's it's very funny.
If you actually look into it like the SEC Commissioner's office is like the second floor of a walk-up
in like Birmingham, Alabama, and Larry Scott, the Pac-12 Commissioner's office is like
a high-tech start-up in San Francisco, like in the most expensive place to get real estate.
And he just, like, that's the kind of shit he does and just takes money from the schools.
How bad does he want to admit Hawaii just so he can put his office out and out of the
blue?
Yeah, seriously.
He's a fucking idiot.
So, shout out to Pac-12 for at least, those players for at least anchoring the negotiation
to maybe get some proper testing and what not.
I'm not really smart enough to understand all the implications of everything that they're
asking for, because I've seen a lot of people arguing back and forth about how much money
would be for certain things, what it would mean for different sports.
I'm just happy if the players are able to start making money like anybody else would
be.
If they go to school, like, if you go to college, if you're not a student-athlete, you can get
a job.
Right.
You can make money.
Players should be able to get a job, and they should also be able to profit off their
name and likeness.
The rule is pretty easy when there's an issue that comes up with whether or not they should
pay the players, just read Doug Gottlieb's Twitter and then do the opposite.
And then if he tweets too much, just opt out of the whole conversation.
That's what I do.
If I was a football coach, I would want my players to be able to profit off their likeness,
because then they'd all start becoming Twitch streamers, and they'd just be playing video
games to make money.
And they would suck at football.
No, no, no.
But then instead of, like, Friday night, like, you know, they're not getting in trouble,
they're legitimately just being nerds.
They're just drinking Mountain Dew, taking Adderall, staying up till 4 a.m.
Yeah.
Now, if they're playing that, that's fine.
Yeah, if they're playing that.
Yeah.
No, but if they're gamers, then, and they're off time, that they game anyway.
So they're just not going out and getting in trouble.
Yeah.
So are NCAA athletes allowed to be Twitch streamers?
They're not allowed to get money.
No, they're not allowed to get money.
Not even from Twitch?
Nope.
That's fucked up.
So what about from TikTok?
That's from China.
China.
China, actually.
Well, did you see the Clemson TikTok?
Oh, my God.
The Clemson players doing it.
They do that.
The Taylor Swift.
TikTok is really cringy.
I did not watch it.
It's pretty cringy.
I'm going to opt out of that.
Okay.
All right.
So you're fishing, opting out of school?
Not officially.
I may opt out of on-campus, but so I might be doing homework all the time.
Can we take your classes for you?
Sure.
That'd be actually amazing.
We should take one class together.
Okay.
You probably will get in trouble, but we'll do it.
What class are you taking that I could just like take one of your tests for you without
doing any study?
I actually take pretty hard classes.
What class?
Name your hardest class.
That's pretty smart.
I think I'm taking like a...
Dinosaurs.
Taking a paleontology class that's pretty hard.
Dinosaurs.
You could have just said dinosaurs, dude.
It's paleontology.
All right.
Let's get to our interview with CJ McCollum.
Before we do that, Bose is back after coming on as a sponsor of our NFL Draft Coverage.
They are now a partner of the Pardon My Take podcast.
They hooked us all up with these awesome Bose 700 headphones.
Bose headphones 700 are perfect for when it's time to enjoy your music, work from home,
or listen to your favorite podcast Pardon My Take.
These headphones have 11 levels of noise cancellation, signature active EQ, and impressive
bass response.
Whether you're listening at low volumes or really want to turn it up, your music sounds
just as it should, and you hear all your podcasts clearly.
We love these.
It is like putting on two pillows on your ear.
You can't hear anything out on the outside world.
Shut it all out.
Have the beautiful, comfortable Bose 700 and be able to hear everything so crisply and
beautifully with the Bose 700.
Bose is hooking up the AWLs.
If you go purchase the Bose headphones 700 at boes.com slash barstool, you will receive
$40 off, $40 off.
Bose dot com slash barstool, B-O-S-E dot com slash barstool.
These are the best headphones.
I'm telling you because I have a pair and I wear them all the time.
They are the best headphones and you get $40 off.
What's better than that?
Nothing.
Headphones for $40 off, the best in the world.
Bose dot com slash barstool, B-O-S-E dot com slash barstool, Bose dot com slash barstool.
Go buy them right now.
You will not be disappointed.
Okay.
Here he is.
CJ McCollum.
Okay.
We now welcome on one of our favorite recurring guests.
It's the second time on, the first time was electric.
Everyone loved him.
It is CJ McCollum from the Portland Trail Blazers.
CJ, thank you for joining us.
We appreciate it.
Let's talk about your wine real quick because we're going to talk a lot of bubble talk and
I feel like wine is a must inside the bubble.
So you've become, oh, what is it?
You're not sommelier.
What do you say?
Sommelier.
Sommelier.
What are you now?
What are you?
I'm a proud owner of my own label.
We'll call him here.
There's 91 in partnership with Adelsine.
I'm not a sum.
Okay.
I could tell you a little bit about certain wines.
I can tell you what to pair with certain wines.
I know the very basics.
I know the process of making wine, but I won't pretend to be able to complete blind tastings
like we see on Netflix.
Okay.
That's pretty smart on your part though because the NBA in general has gotten really into wine.
I feel like over the last like three or four years, I don't know if that was like LeBron
that got it all started that kind of like got everybody hooked on wine.
He was like, hey, taste this one.
First one's free.
Next one's going to cost you, but it's nice on your part to cash in on that.
And now you can distribute to your teammates, guys, and other teams and make a ton of money.
So very smart business idea.
I appreciate it.
Yeah.
It's been cool to be in the bubble.
I had about 70 bottles shipped that actually doesn't go on sale until September.
I'm going to call him here at 91.com.
So just kind of filling everybody out, you know, allowing them to taste the wine, get
some feedback, get some reviews.
They've been very positive considering how young the wine is with it being an 18.
But I've enjoyed it.
And I'm looking forward to continue to learn more about wine and share and get through
this, this bubble situation with some, some good grapes.
Okay.
So let's talk about the bubble from a scale of one to 10, how bad is it?
And do you, have you had that moment where you're like, I can't complain because Ron
don't kind of ruin it for everyone when he said, when he said the Motel six thing and
everyone was like, wait, that's a nice hotel.
So how, how is it for real?
I don't know.
He's being sarcastic or not, but my room is great.
I'm not going to, I'm not going to take a picture of it or show you a video of it,
but I'm happy with my accommodations.
They've taken great care of me, personally, me and Dan were joking the other day.
We were like, yeah, I can stay here for as long as, as long as I need it to, you know,
honestly.
The thing you just miss most is being able to move around, miss your family, your loved
ones.
That's, that's the hard part.
The food you get used to it, there's, there's some different options that they have daily.
You're able to order some food from, from a few different places, catering services,
restaurants, et cetera, that they've signed off on.
But it's just the, the movement around aspect, you can't drive the shuttles that run to
the other two hotels, but you can't go anywhere else.
That's the, that's the tough part.
So on a scale of one to 10, I'd say eight because, because we're safe, everyone's getting negatives.
We're testing daily.
They've done a great job of kind of controlling our situation.
You can get wine and you can get shipments in, which is very, very crucial, especially
during these off days where you can lay by the pool and drink some bubbly.
And I guess you get extra brownie points because we get to play, although if you're
a fan, you get to go hoop and know that everybody is negative.
What about the pay-per-view situation in the room?
Who pays for that?
Who's, who's covering all that stuff at the end of the day?
Is that coming out of your pocket or is that the NBA?
Well, they, they dropped us off fire sticks.
We got the Disney plus, I don't know how to set up the Disney plus yet, but I hear we
get like a three, three month free membership.
So I'm gonna, I'm gonna try to milk that.
That's right.
Save some money.
Yeah.
So it must, it must be nice being able to maybe hang out with guys, not only your own
teammates, but guys you haven't seen in a while with you guys all being in the same place.
And is there like some element that's kind of a summer camp feel to it?
Cause maybe I'm just projecting here, but hanging out with everyone and being like,
we're all stuck here.
Let's make a good time out of it.
It would be kind of fun.
Oh yeah.
We've had some great nights telling a lot of stories, drinking a lot of wine over dinner
or rotating who pays for it.
It's definitely like an AAU tournament.
It's like a, it's like an all boys school where obviously it's, it's cool, but you
do miss being able to leave.
You do miss being able to do a lot of things that you weren't accustomed to doing, but
we're all making the best of it.
The fact that we can go to other hotels now is cool because you have friends on other
teams.
I think there's like six or seven teams in the yacht club, but there's two other hotels
that where you can go eat at their restaurants, you can go kick it with your friends.
There's boats.
There's different events you can do.
There's numbers, many petties.
I can get my hair braided.
There's beauticians here.
They have like almost everything you could, you could think of.
They, they, they cross their teeth, they died of their eyes and made it.
I mean, no offense to the other sports, but you see what's happening with the sports and
and how they haven't really been able to control it the same way we've been able to control
it.
It's mainly because they don't let us do anything.
They don't let's go anywhere.
They don't let anyone in.
Right.
So is Adam Silver telling you directly that you need to beat the Grizzlies and lose to
the Pelicans?
Or is that something that's just coming from your coach being like, Hey, we need Zion in
the playoffs.
That's happening.
I haven't talked to Adam specifically about Zion or the Grizzlies.
If you beat hypothetically, if you were beating the Grizzlies, would you expect to see one
red dot on your chest walking home?
Would there be one on the chest and then one right between your eyes?
The Blazers would all be asymptomatic.
And whoops.
You got to cancel the season.
Interesting.
Yeah.
You get a false positive.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, I think obviously Zion is the future of the league.
It's clear.
He's a string talented player.
He's got a lot of different skills has to offer.
I'm sure the league would like to see, you know, certain matchups, but I ain't got nothing
to do with us.
Man, we go out there and we do what we're supposed to do and we like to ruin the party.
We like to ruin parties for everyone and we feel like we have a great chance, a situation
where we get to play a games and have a chance to make the playoffs.
I guess you couldn't ask for more.
It's just more so about how we execute, how we play and we look forward to trying to get
into this playoff.
Are you happy that getting stuff by the rim that happened in the preseason?
So less people were watching or is it worse now because I'm bringing it up and people
are like, wait, what happened?
This is it.
You got totally stuffed by the totally stuff.
The video is accessible online if you'd like to watch.
That's why I never try to dunk because that could happen.
I think it was funny because the comments are hilarious.
They're like, oh, he got a quarantine 15 or he drinks online or is this or is that?
And it's like, no, I just missed the dump.
People missed us all the time.
Yeah.
They're seeing us play in like four months.
So you forgot.
But I think I can handle those types of things because I think it's funny.
I would laugh at the guy that happens to so I can laugh with people when it's me.
But before the dunking again and actually being able to execute it better, someone said that
I should have some sprite in my room or something like that because of the way I hit the rim
and it was reminiscent of that.
But it's all fun and games.
If you can't laugh at yourself, I think you just take your life too seriously.
What's your mentality after you missed that dunk?
Do you want to go up there and try it again?
Do you want to throw it down or would you rather be like, okay, you know what?
Trying to settle back into my game, step back, hit a three, then I'll be good.
Well, I'm just keeping the buck with you.
So I was stiff, man.
This is when I make up the excuses now.
Coach told us before the game, he's like, yo, you're playing 20 minutes tonight.
10 minutes in the first quarter, 10 minutes in the third quarter.
I'm adding up.
I'm like, coach, I don't want to sit the entire second quarter, sit for half time and then
have to go back in after playing an hour ago.
So no, you'll be fine.
So we played the first quarter.
We sit the entire second quarter, go through half time for the third quarter starts.
We're all looking at each other like, I'm like, damn, I'm stiff.
You stiff.
You have everybody.
Everybody is tight, moving slow.
And Nurt gets back after 15 months.
So Nurt gets the rebound or I get the rebound and he's yelling to me.
He's like, throw it, throw it.
Go back to her.
Go back to her.
Like, why is it coming up the court?
So I'm like, bet.
I hit Nurt, go back to her.
I catch the ball and I just blacked out.
I took it in stride and I went back and normally I go two hands for safety.
I try to cock it back a little bit.
Yeah.
And as I'm jumping, I'm running out of talent.
You know what I'm saying?
My talent.
I feel it.
So I try to go as fast as possible.
So I try to throw it down like quick and I'm thinking, all right, I can overpower the rim.
Yeah.
So I don't overpower the rim.
I hit the rim straight on a bow and then at that moment I'm falling.
I'm thinking, all right, you missed the dunk.
Don't get hurt.
So as I'm falling, I'm trying to turn and make sure I don't get hurt because that's
just insulted.
Yeah.
You were not going to get hurt with that one.
If you get hurt like getting stuffed by the rim, you might want to just retire.
That might be like, it's okay.
We've had a nice run.
It's time to walk away.
Yeah.
But I must say I executed a missed dunk flawlessly.
Yes, you did.
Just ran out of talent.
I like that.
There's times when that happens.
So in terms of like play in your team, do you guys feel like you are back where you
were like, you know, ended the season in March, or is it still a little rust around
the league just trying to get everyone back up to speed?
I think most guys are close.
I can speak for our team.
I feel like a lot of people took care of themselves once they knew there was a chance
we could come back.
They started working out.
There was plenty of time to kind of change your diet, you know, go back to getting, getting
in the gym, getting in shape, hydrating properly.
And then being able to go through training camp and your markets, we went through, you
know, weeks of individual workouts where most teams come here.
You get to practice against each other.
We've been here since July 7th or 8th.
So we're looking at three weeks to four weeks of practice before you go into your first
actual game.
So I think for us, we feel good.
We took, took good care of our bodies and our shape.
Most teams took it seriously.
Some teams really needed this training camp to kind of get the, get the rust out.
But all in all, I think they've done a pretty good job of preparing us and we can get treatment
daily around the clock.
I was getting dried neatly at 10pm last night to kind of recover and get ready for Friday.
So the, the good thing about being in the bubble is there's no travel, there's no getting
on planes and it happened to go through those things.
You just take a 10 minute bus ride and then 10 minutes back.
I've got two off the record questions for you.
So these are off the record.
They're still going to be in the podcast, but, but they're off the record.
First off the record question, who are some of those teams hypothetically that have been
a little more rusty?
Maybe they've been tighter and in the training room a lot, that sort of thing off the record.
I mean, you know, who, who has a chance to make the playoffs and who doesn't quite frankly,
like looking at how many games out you are, you got to be three and a half games out to
have a chance for the play.
We're three and a half games out as it stands right now.
So we just have to continue to either keep pace or outpace Memphis, New Orleans, Sacramento.
We have to head to head with Sacramento.
We have the, we don't have a type record with New Orleans.
So we have to have a better record, essentially.
Okay.
So for us, we're in the hotel with six or seven teams.
So it's us, Spurs, Memphis, Sacramento, Wizards, Sons, and I think that's it.
Okay.
You're the bubble.
I got you.
I understand what you're saying.
I'm picking up what you're putting down right now.
We're all the teams that are currently, as it stands, not in the playoffs.
Yes.
So Wizards are looking great right now is what I'm hearing from you.
John Bell is looking healthier than he's been in years.
John's not here.
Shout out to my guy, John and Brad.
Brad, I don't know Brad's here and John's not here.
He's training.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So my second off the record question is just what's the shooting been like in the bubble?
Like has there been an adjustment period?
Do you expect for teams to be shooting at a lower percentage?
Shooting at a lower percentage during these playoffs?
Well, it's weird, man.
There's no fans.
The backdrop is different.
There's no travel.
Everybody's more fresh because you have four months off.
So I think guys will shoot the same or better because some people that can't shoot actually
worked on their games and then some people just still can't shoot because it's just not
in their nature.
Yup.
That's me.
Okay.
Yeah.
I think looking at what I've seen so far, it looks like most people worked on their
games.
It looks like most people will be pretty fresh to start.
And I would expect guys to be really locked in, especially understanding you only got
eight games.
It's one thing to have to play a whole season.
It's another thing to know that like, yo, we only got eight games and then we either make
the playoffs or we don't.
Let's just leave it all out there, go as hard as we can, not leave anything in the tank.
Do you think there'll be more or less trash talking?
More.
Because do you think more, even though we'll even though we'll be able to pick it up a
little bit, like the mics will pick it up better?
You think there'll be more?
Yeah.
They're going to pick up some foul stuff based on what I've been hearing so far.
And the things that I say that normally can't be heard with fans, they're going to have
to try to blur it out with crowd noise.
They're going to try to delay it, but you're going to hear a lot of elite content.
Is that, is the more trash talk because guys have to like amp themselves up more and there's
the lack of, I would imagine it's a little weird.
You don't get that just adrenaline boost of coming out to a packed house.
You have to kind of find it somewhere else.
So are they, is that why it's more, they're talking themselves into it a little bit?
Yeah, it's both.
It's like, you psych yourself out.
You got to trick yourself into like, there's people here watching, I'm hype, I'm hype.
And then the other part is it's like AAU, it's like playing with your friends.
Right.
You talk more trash against people you know, like your friends and it's, you score and it's
like, yeah, all curse words and obscenities just randomly to kind of pump yourself up.
And then you like talk trash back and forth and it's like, they score and it's like, yeah,
yeah, hitting three and then other team scores and then like, you got somebody scoring on
a smaller player and they're walking down the court like, he's a baby, baby out the road.
Random things.
People yelling out like, Benny, it's time to cook.
Like this is random, random stuff and then other things I can't say.
So what you're telling me is that a team that might have the strongest bench mob actually
has a huge advantage because they've got a massive cheering section for them.
They've got like a little home court advantage.
So I had the teams that you've seen, which bench mob is the best?
I mean, we got a really good bench mob.
I've seen, I watched a couple of games on TV.
The Lakers, they celebrate like every basket, they got dances.
I've seen other teams like, choreography, like do choreography on free throws that were
like, somebody sits, somebody stands and then they move around.
It's like a roller coaster ride.
Like everybody's doing different stuff, I guess, to kind of stay engaged, stay locked
in and you just need that momentum boost.
Toronto Raptors, we played and we were talking like crazy, the whole game, the ref had to
stop the game and say, look, man, if anybody else says anything, we're going to have to
stop the fun people outside of the situation.
So it was just fun.
We know each other, but it's just fun to talk trash when it's an empty gym.
There's nobody there and you're competing like you're trying to win and it becomes a
little personal on the court.
It's personal.
Then you leave.
It's just business as usual.
Yeah.
We're going to get back to CJ in just a second.
But before we do, I want to talk to you about our good friends over at Mack Weldon.
Mack Weldon believes in smart design, premium fabrics and simple shopping.
You've heard us talk about Mack Weldon on this podcast before.
That's because they make the most comfortable socks, shirts, undershirts, hoodies and sweat
pants that you will ever wear in your life.
Not only do their socks and shirts look good, they perform well too.
You can wear them while you're working out, while you're going to work, going on a date
just everyday life.
It's the most versatile brand that we advertise with because like I said, you can wear them
to work.
They look great on a zoom call.
They look great on a date.
They look good just hanging out around the house.
They look great on a golf course.
Mack Weldon is the one stop shop for all of the above.
And they've got a new totally free loyalty program called Weldon Blue.
Level one gets you free shipping for life.
Once you reach level two by spending only 200 bucks, Mack Weldon is going to start giving
you 20% off every order for the next year.
That's right.
20% off every order for the next year.
If you reach level two on Weldon Blue, Mack Weldon's clothes are so comfortable.
They've got some of the best quarter zips in the game.
We're getting dangerously close to Chris Collinsworth's slide in season.
And when we do, you know at least for a couple of these games in the fall, he's going to
be wearing that nice little quarter zip.
He's going to bite his lip and look directly at American housewives' hearts and he's
going to say, hey, it's me, Chris, I'm wearing my Mack Weldon.
I look great.
Here's a guy that would absolutely plow your mom.
Mack Weldon, one of our favorite companies that we advertise with, Billy liked that one.
Check him out.
Go to mackweldon.com slash take, inter promo code TAKE.
You're going to get 20% off your first order, okay?
So you're going to get 20% off at mackweldon.com slash take and when you inter promo code TAKE.
Check him out, Mack Weldon.
Now back to CJ and call him.
Who keeps calling the snitch line?
Have you called it?
I don't have the number.
I've never been a snitch on it.
That's convenient.
You don't have the number?
That sounds like you're denying too much.
No, they gave the number to everybody.
Hey, longest nobody's bringing any positives in here.
I don't really care.
I do y'all thing, live y'all lives, man.
Leave me alone.
I stay on my little corner suite.
I'm ducked off out the way.
I got my wine.
I got my water.
I got some organs find this.
So I'm just enjoying my situation.
Snitch line though.
Someone's calling it.
Someone's calling the snitch line.
Oh, people are definitely calling the snitch line.
100%.
People complain about it.
People complain about people not wearing masks.
And it's interesting, man.
I'm not one to judge people.
Everybody's going to live their best life.
Long as you're not coughing around me or potentially like exposing me to the virus, I don't care
what you do.
Just stay away from me.
Let me stay in my little space and live my life.
Yeah.
So maybe keep like an extra six feet between you and Michael Porter Jr.
I feel like that might be a good idea for right now.
Have you had the snitch line called on you?
Not that I know of.
I mean, I don't know what you would tell on me for doing.
Like I'm just out here living my best life in the bubble.
I feel like some teams have designated snitches where they say, OK, we need you to call up
the two best players on every team that we play against.
Or what about calling the snitch like CJ tried to dunk and he's not, he's not about that
life.
CJ ran out of talent.
I'm a scorer, man.
I get buckets, man.
You do.
Yeah.
I listen.
I think that I've had a long stay woke.
There's a gym in New York where Mello, who we got to talk about Slim Mello, he practices
with a bunch of pros.
I think you maybe have been there too.
I'm convinced that the basket is bigger because everyone just like no one misses at that gym.
But I've seen your training videos.
Do you edit them?
Do you make sure that it's always just buckets because it's it is incredible how good you
look in your training videos.
But that's everyone, I guess.
I mean, I look good in games too, but true, true.
Yes, you do.
But but what's behind the training video when you put out a training video, are you like,
let's keep that one out.
Let's keep that brick out.
No, I clip.
I clip all my stuff.
So you'll see makes misses too, depending on what they catch.
But we're such elite shooters that like even the worst player on the team is great in the
empty gym.
It's crazy.
It's unbelievable how like locked in, how the mechanics, everything falls into line.
If you if you catch the right person shooting for two, three, four minutes, they might not
miss.
So if you just record a one minute video on Instagram, it's one minute of just makes it
may be 20 makes in a row.
I can make 2550 60 shots in a row.
And if you clip it for one minute, it's gonna look like I didn't miss because I didn't miss
for one minute.
Right.
I think that's the misconception fans get is that you watch center shoot like Dwight
Howard can shoot threes to Vel McGeity.
If they enter gym by themselves and attend, yeah, and you just see eight makes in a row
and be like, well, why doesn't he do it again?
It's like, well, that's not his role.
That's not his job, but he is capable.
There's so many players that are capable of doing things, especially in a gym by themselves.
It's just more about opportunity.
And I think that, you know, that the gym that we play in the summertime guys make shots
because for one, we don't play much defense at all.
And for two, everybody's fresh.
It's the summertime.
You live in your best life.
And there's no worries.
Like everybody just out there hooping, there's no plays being called.
There's no, there's no interviews after the game or none of that stuff.
You just go out there and poop like a child and then you go home.
Yeah.
I can't remember who said it once, but it put it all into perspective.
They're like the difference between the NBA and everything else is if you took the 10th
best player on an NBA roster, they would be the best shooter on every single college team
across the board.
It's like, without a doubt, like any, any, you know, big men's moment, whatever it is,
just pick the 10th best shooter on an NBA team and they are, they are the number one
option for every single college team.
Yeah.
Depending on what team, because obviously there are some players that are elite, like,
you know, like if you want to go back to, like put JJ ready for college, right?
Like a shoot, like he's going to be the best shooter, but for, for the most part NBA players,
like the, the last guy on the bench is like an animal.
Right.
Still in this.
Yeah.
Really just not playing.
Right.
So just another animal.
How did the elite of the elite get ready that separates them from like the guys that might
be the fifth or sixth best shooter on the team?
Like mentally, do you, do you meditate?
What do you do to get in the mindset to go out there and not worry about all that shit
and just execute the mechanics?
Everything man.
Like I got my, I read man.
Holy shit.
You can see.
Oh damn.
Who are you trying to press?
Look, think about it.
I'm in a bubble by myself.
There's nobody here.
I'm just trying to, I'm just trying to improve my knowledge and overall understanding of
life.
But I think the, it's that 2% to 10%, right?
It's the mental edge is the ability to lock in its ability to focus.
We all good.
We all have talent.
We all have the same resources.
We got elite trainers.
We all can hire chefs.
We all can do those things.
It's just about the discipline and then the ability to be overcome, overcome obstacles.
Right.
So some people are great when everything's going well and they're successful when they're
making shots.
Everything's great.
Everything in your life is going well.
Some people can't handle the opposite, failure, missed shots, media talking about you.
Your relationship might not be going well.
Family stuff might be going on that all that affects your performance.
Some people have the ability to compartmentalize everything like make Kobe rest in peace.
He could compartmentalize everything.
Like when, when things are going well, when things aren't going well, they have an ability
to lock in like that, like LeBron, Tom Brady, some of the elites, Pat Mahomes, you could
put him in the conversation now, like the switch that goes off to where down 25, down
28, doesn't matter because they still think they're the greatest.
They still think they're unstoppable.
Still think they're the best.
Some people waiver.
Some people get unsure of themselves and that's why there's 2% of the elite and then there's
the 98%, the 99% that are really good.
Have the talent, have the ability.
Don't have the mindset.
They don't have the drive or they don't have the discipline.
Yeah.
That makes sense.
Like on a, if you have a game and you warm up and you feel good, do you tell everyone
on your team like this, it's, this is me tonight.
Like make sure I get the ball and, and has that ever backfired?
Have you ever thought that you had it and then it's like, whoa, whoops.
Don't have it.
Thought I did.
I've had both, both situations happen.
I've made every shot and warmups.
Like I've shot and like going through my spots, my routine and not missed for like 10 minutes.
And I'm like, ooh, it's going to be a good night and I've missed every shot in the game.
I've gone through warmups and missed every shot.
Like I have to make 10 free throws in a row when I finish two switches.
I go through like a series of switches, makes off the dribble, catch and shoot.
I've gone through it and I have a 20 minute slot is taking me 35 or 40 minutes.
Like I've been shooting against someone else's slot to try to finish thinking it's going
to be a terrible game, 40.
So like it's, once you get in the game and you get into rhythm, like it's hit or miss
like things shift and change, but your, your mindset, but my mindset never changes.
Like I can miss every shot.
I could be over 12, 13 is going in, miss 13, 14 has got to go in 14.
Oh, that means I've got to make 14 in a row.
Like it's only a matter of time before I say law of law of averages.
So for me, that's how it's always been.
But for some people, they're superstitious.
They got to do this.
They got to do that.
Me is like, I've tried everything just to throw off that mindset of I have to do this.
I can nap or I can not take a nap.
I can FaceTime my girl.
I can not FaceTime my girl.
I'm still going to be locked in and able to play in those pregame shootarounds or just
in practice in general.
What is Dame's range like when he's like, when he's going through his routines, does
he sit and do like 50 foot shots and just practice those?
Or what's, what's that like?
He can comfortably shoot from half court.
He's strong.
He's got like the wrist flexion.
It's crazy.
He's got a good dip.
He works on it.
He knows how to get the proper arc on the ball and it's almost like a set shot, but
it's not for him.
Cause it's just like, it's really effortless.
He doesn't really jump, but he, he works on that stuff and that, and that's the thing
people at home watch and they're like, well, why do they do this or why do they do that?
And it's like, we've all practiced everything that we do.
I don't go out there and just experiment.
I work on stuff and then I translate that to the game.
It's like the pre draft, the rough draft to the final paper.
So for him, he works on 30 footers.
He works on 40 footers.
He works on step backs, left step backs, right.
Just like the shot he hit against the thunder.
They literally had video of him doing that same shot in O.K.C.
The night before game one, the night before game two, the night before game three, like
his trainer, Phil Beckner shot the field.
He actually just had him, somebody take a picture and he's like, I had a feeling that
he was going to need to shoot a shot from this far.
Like, did Dane have to shoot it from 40 feet?
No, he didn't have to.
I'm really glad that he did though.
It was awesome.
I'm glad that he did.
It's super cool.
I think ending in that picture, I got to get that picture signed like a, this one waving
so I could, so I could laugh about it in 10 years and 15 years.
Yeah, you're right.
I mean, the striking thing about that shot is when he shoots it, it looks like a normal
person shooting a three point shot.
He's not, he's not like carrying a bunch of momentum forward.
His limbs aren't flying out.
He's not, you know, mechanics.
He's not, you guys do mechanics in like the craziest spots and it's just nothing breaks.
Like that's like the Ray Allen.
Ray Allen taking a shot and he could be, you know, coming off a ball screen, going momentum
all the way to the left and he gets his perfect like body square and everything.
He's like, how do you do that?
I don't know.
You guys are crazy.
It's reps.
It's repetition.
It's confidence.
It's understanding and then your body gets used to it.
Like, have you ever, it's probably like a bad comparison, but have you ever driven
home and like, did I stop at a red light?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just zone out.
Yeah.
Damn, did I turn left?
Like, how did I get here?
So, you know what I mean?
That's how it is when you're hooping.
Like you do it every day.
Like your body just kind of takes control and you just kind of let your body react to
certain things.
And then I'll watch the film and I'll be like, damn, I did that.
That's got to be a cool experience.
That's like me looking at my debit card statement on like a Sunday morning.
No.
Me and you are the same.
Yeah.
No, but that actually happens.
Sometimes we'll do a podcast.
They'll be like, what did we talk about?
Yeah.
That's true.
That was a great show and it's like, I don't even remember what we talked about.
That's true.
People will like tweet us something that we said and I'm like, wow, I must have blacked
out and just ran my mouth off about something I don't know about.
We do this all the time.
These are the blackouts without the alcohol.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Slim Mello.
How slim is he?
That's my guy.
My guy, Slim Mello.
He loves the nicknames too, by the way, so make sure you guys reinforce this.
Okay.
He's definitely slim.
He's taken great care of himself, especially over the break.
We got a little bit of time in on the track.
We did some running.
We walked our dogs.
We were like living the all-American dream, honestly, of the quarantine life out there
in the middle of nowhere, walking dogs and conditioning, juicing and drinking wine, but
he's taken great care of himself.
He's slim.
He's in good shape.
He's ready to play.
I mean, you guys see in the video, he ran them short shorts, got his whole leg out,
and is proud of the progress he's made as chef.
They've done a great job.
I told him he should have been in Oregon a long time ago.
I ain't going to go into the details, but he's doing really well and we're looking forward
to making this playoff push, man.
I think that we're in a position to hopefully do some real damage.
Yeah.
And Mello's one of those guys that, you know, his career's lasted so long, obviously people,
you know, make jokes online, but he is one of those guys.
When you watch him warm up or work in the gym in the summer, he literally does not miss.
He is, it's so insane.
You remind yourself like, oh yeah, Carmelo Anthony's one of like the best pure scores
like ever.
It's insane.
Yeah.
It's 25,000 plus points for a reason.
You know what I mean?
Like that's consistency.
It's like the 10,000 hour rule.
You know what I mean?
You become an expert or something.
He's got millions of hours.
Yes.
Yeah.
It's like walking a dog.
It's like literally walking a dog or changing a diaper as you become a parent.
It becomes easier and easier than you just get used to it and it's a habit or nature.
So he's a walking bucket and will be a walking bucket.
Yes.
I like that.
The walking bucket.
Oh yeah.
That's a significant too.
You and Kevin Durant, good now.
You know, we haven't, it was like two years ago that you came on and I, we, I like this
whole podcast started beef that went viral between the two of you.
That was strategic game planning, man.
We, we, we took advantage of the system.
Yeah.
According to podcasts, I left them some wine and in return he helped boost my ratings and
I'm thankful for it.
Honestly.
That's, that's, that's my homie to this day to this day.
That's my homie.
And I got to check on him and see how he's doing.
I know he's getting close to, to returning and looking forward to getting back out there
on the court.
Yeah.
It also gave us the most, I guess it was like 2018, but whatever this time, it might
have been 2019 line ever.
I just did your fucking podcast, which that's like pretty much, that's like the biggest
sign of disrespect.
I went to a wedding.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yeah.
The funny part is that I'm in China while all this is happening.
So I'm getting the news slow.
I'm like six a.m. my time, like left it and I started my day and then I'm on Twitter
and I'm trending.
I'm like, what is this?
And then I'm like, let me hit him on the side.
Like what, what, what is this before I, before I curse him out on Twitter, like what's going
on here?
Were you hurt by the snake emoji?
I thought it was hilarious, man.
It was, it was really funny.
It was well, it was well done on both our parts.
Honestly.
Yeah.
You guys play this.
Yeah.
I bought it.
It was the deep people were reaching out to like our staff, like it's CJ and Katie.
All right.
I'm like, yo, we're good.
I just talked to him yesterday.
Like we're good.
And they all cut my tweet out of it.
They cut my tweet at like everyone would just tweet just your reply to me and then his reply
to you.
It's like, wait, hold on.
So but that's just how the internet works.
Yeah.
I mean, you played us like a fiddle to be honest with you, although like I don't believe you,
but I do believe that Kevin Durant would do something like that.
He would be engaged in a scheme like that to try to like just boost his friend's podcast
rates.
In this case, I think he actually did unironically tweet the snake emoji at you.
Yes.
No, he did that on purpose for sure.
Like a hundred snake emoji was like the icing of the cake.
Now it'd been like me putting the cupcake in there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Or the clown emoji is always a good one too.
That just, that gets under your skin.
You also, you also had a beef with, um, you called Skip Bayless.
Uh, what did you call him?
Scrap something?
What did you call him?
Burn him.
Good.
Scrap, Scrap Bayless.
That's good.
That's good burn.
Why did you do, why'd you call him Scrap Bayless?
Something gave me to come on the show, man.
They just want to give me the boost.
They raise that total.
No, but you're welcome to come on my podcast.
Yeah.
I like that.
Yeah.
One hour shifted.
Yeah.
He did.
You treated 1.4 points per game.
That's the worst part about Skip Bayless.
The fact that anyone found out that he averaged 1.4 points per game because when he just bashes
people nonstop, you can just throw it right back in his face.
Like how do I argue with you?
Like you average one point a game and you put a junior varsity for life.
You know how hard it is to average 1.4 points a game?
Skip probably, which he never played basketball.
That's like, that would be way better.
Impossible to do.
That means you don't make one layup a game.
Yeah.
I would rather average zero points a game than 1.4 points.
No, you rather not play.
Yes.
Yeah.
He, Skip Bayless definitely in his heart of hearts was like, I wish I did not play
junior varsity basketball because it would be better to not have played than to average
1.4 points per game.
He would have been better off doing the box scores.
Yes.
Yeah.
That's true.
Yes.
Just be the journalist through and through.
He should have been wiping the sweat off the floor.
I respect your commitment to the podcast publicity game too.
You understand that controversy gets eyeballs.
Did you be honest with me when you found out that the NBA was being suspended for the year,
that was not live on your podcast, right?
You said, I'm going to pretend like I'm recording my podcast so I can give a live reaction to
it.
And then people will be like, Oh, shit.
CJ found out live on his podcast.
By the way, his podcast is pull up with CJ McCollum, him and Jordan Schultz.
Sorry.
I want to throw that in plug for you, but yeah, no, please plug, but here's the thing.
That's genius.
What you're talking about a genius, but a word to mother on everything I love.
I was literally doing a podcast with Mello in my office.
We're sitting here doing a podcast.
We got a game the next day and I get a text from the NBPA early.
It takes me an hour before the release.
They're like, yo, the season's about to get canceled yet.
Yeah.
Players have tested positive.
And I'm like recording, I'm like, what?
So I'm like, yo, no, some players have tested positive season's about to get canceled.
He like fuck out of here.
And I'm like, yeah, bro, like he's season's about to get canceled.
So 20 minutes later, I'm watching, like I got my TV here to the right.
Me and Mello are sitting like this, actually comes from my agency sitting right here recording.
That's like taking pictures so I can post on social.
And I'm watching the game and I watched like the Oklahoma city thunder.
If somebody else leave the floor, like, you know, you warm up, like the buzzer goes off.
They leave the floor.
And I'm like, wow, this is real time.
This is really happening.
So I go to the cellar, crack open two bottles and I'm like, look, we ain't playing tomorrow.
We might as well.
We might as well have ourselves a night.
And that's literally what happened.
I couldn't have, I couldn't have scripted it better.
And the funny part is that the podcast wasn't going to come out until the next day anyway.
So we recorded it.
I sent it to my producer.
They chopped it up and they put it out in the morning.
So last time you were on, you gave us the Hezzi hay.
Do you have a, uh, any variations off the Hezzi hay or new moves that you've been working
on that you're going to unveil?
Give me a, give me a situation because around campus, I've been year old and people, you
know what I'm saying?
I ain't now.
In the hallways?
Genoblee.
I've been in people with the James Arden, but you know what I'm saying, like it just depends
on my mood.
You've got to give me a situation, a scenario and then I'd give the street some because
I know the streets need some.
Okay.
Uh, Iso, you're down one with 15 seconds left.
Iso, you're on the right side.
Everyone's cleared it out to the left.
You're going up against James Arden.
What do you do?
Oh yeah.
Move.
Everybody get off the way.
I got one.
This, you know, when you say you got one, that means, yeah, yeah, he can't check.
Hey now.
Hey now.
I'm tween.
Tween.
Tween.
Tween.
Tween.
Big cross.
Big cross.
Tween.
Right at him.
Right at him.
Step back.
Step back to freedom.
Blast his face off.
Step back to freedom.
Blast his face off.
Okay.
Here's one other, one other scenario.
Pause.
You're, uh, you're in the, you just get off the, uh, elevator.
You're walking down the hallway of your hotel and it's one guy walking the other way.
It's LeBron.
That's it.
What do you do?
You give him a little.
He's walking the opposite way.
No, he's walking towards you.
You just a long hotel room.
He's walking towards the elevator.
You just walked off.
No one else is around.
Well, that's the homie.
So I was just saying what's up to him, but if I wanted to joke with him, I might, uh,
throw a step on him or something like that or, or, uh, do his patent and move where he
like, look at you.
Look down at you.
Trouble it really high.
My head's off.
Like, but no, that's the homie I play.
I grew up.
So I grew up in Canton.
I played for his.
So I've known him since I was like 12 or 13.
So I just say what's up.
That's good.
Well, that's a perfect segue for my last question.
Uh, what's, what's up with your Browns, man?
That was the most hyped up team in the history of pro sports and we're Baker guys.
So we're rooting for them, but damn, that sucked last year.
Yeah, it did.
It did.
And you know what sucks?
You know, it sucks when you spend money and you, and you, you go to road games on off
days and you watch your Browns lose at the Cardinals.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
On an off day.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like that, that hurt my heart or you fly to Oakland and you watch your Browns blow a game
against the Raiders or you watch miss field goals.
And then the refs call late hit on mouth Garrett loose to the Rams.
Yeah.
I'm trying to call them.
Yeah.
But that hurt.
We, we had some close losses, but I think that's, that's what builds character, honestly.
Like we have to learn how to win.
We have to learn how to play together.
All this talent.
We have all these pieces, but we didn't know how to use them.
We did not utilize them properly.
So I think now I'm going through a full season, OBJ is healthy, Bakers locked in, he understands
what's at stake here.
You got all these weapons around you.
He knows how to use them now.
He's doing what he's supposed to do.
Miles got paid.
You know, he got some of that anger out the way on our Rudolph and looking forward to
coming back and having a pro boy year.
We got juice.
We got an all pro all world linebacker, a linebacker, all pro all world running back.
We have the pieces we brought in receivers brought in tight end.
So now it's just about, can we all stay negative for one?
Cause there's no season with a bunch of positives and we execute.
Can we go nine and seven to get in as the wildcard?
Because I feel like we can get into the playoffs with our talent.
Anything is possible.
Anything is possible.
So I liked that you're doing nine and seven.
It's good.
Before the season last year, what were you thinking?
12 and four, 10 and six?
Six, six, nine and seven, but I didn't factor in a lot of different things.
Like I didn't factor in losing miles.
Garrett.
I don't think anyone did in that respect.
That really, that's a little wrench into things, but I didn't factor in some of those
close losses that we always seem to have as browns.
Yeah.
Didn't factor in that you had like basically a fan coaching the team.
That hurts as well.
That always is tough.
We love Freddie kitchens.
We'd have him on the podcast in two seconds, but he was Freddie would admit himself sometimes.
I think Freddie just ran out of talent.
Yeah.
Right.
Sometimes you get a job and you're just, you know, maybe it's a little, maybe you weren't
ready for that job.
Maybe someone promoted you a little too fast.
It's the Peter principle, right?
Yeah.
You will get promoted to a point of incompetence.
At the end of the day, coaches, coaching players play.
So we got a coach who's supposed to coach and now our players got to play.
They got to show up and there's no excuses.
There's no injury stuff.
There's none of that.
We've got to show up and play and perform.
My quarterback's got a quarterback running back's got to run receivers got to catch
the ball.
There's no excuses.
Yeah.
I like where your head's at.
It's saying like we learned how not to lose last year.
We lost in every single heartbreaking where you're possible and we've learned from that.
So now maybe we'll win nine games.
Maybe we'll make a wild card.
I think that's a much healthier perspective as a brown.
Definitely healthy.
I've had some unhealthy Sundays watching them watching my browns and you know, historically
the bi-week and draft night have been our favorite parts of the year, but now we have
more hope.
Yes.
Yes.
Well, CJ, thanks man.
This has been fun.
We love having you on.
You were a big time, big time fan favorite.
Yeah.
Shout out your wine.
Shout out your podcast pull up with CJ McCallum McCallum heritage 91.com.
Woo.
There we go.
That sounds great.
And best of luck.
And yeah, hopefully you guys make the playoffs.
Hopefully you have that chance to blast off in someone's face.
Pause.
I look forward to it.
I think it's going to be great.
I think it's going to be a great time for all the kids out there listening.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And continue to read.
All right.
Reading is crucial.
Yeah.
And drink a lot of wine.
Yeah.
Drink all the wine you can.
I read a book this quarantine.
So we're kind of the same.
I actually, there was a tweet that went viral that said the hardest part about reading a
book is not telling anyone that you read it.
So that's always the hardest part for me.
When I read a book, I let the whole world know that I've read a book.
Yeah.
I finished two books so far during quarantine.
So I'll keep a running tally and be sure to let the whole world know.
Yes.
Yeah.
I just tweet out reading again every time I start reading.
Just let everyone know I'm on the clock.
Hashtag.
Did you read today?
Yeah.
I mean, you can tweet out a picture of a bunch of books, like a big stack of books, and
everybody would just be like, oh, wow, he must be really smart.
He's learning.
He's like, no, I just bought books.
You don't have to read them.
You just buy them.
Buy them.
Yeah, they look good.
Yeah.
All right.
Thanks, man.
We always appreciate it.
Good to see you, man.
All right.
Y'all have a good one, man.
CJ was brought to you by our great friends and great partner over at 3C.
3C is the leader in hemp-derived cannabinoid products.
I've gotten so many tweets and so many DMs from people that have tried 3C in the last
month or so.
You guys all seem to enjoy them, and you all give me the same piece of feedback, which
is holy shit.
Thank you for warning me that this stuff can be strong.
I love it.
3C is the real deal.
If you haven't heard about 3C yet, they're made in the USA with USA Grown Hemp, and they're
Delta 8THC.
That's right.
It's a federally legal version of THC.
It's sold here in the United States.
It's the first federally legal THC product sold in the US since Prohibition started almost
90 years ago.
Delta 8THC, it's a version of THC that's federally legal, as I said, so it's totally
above board to buy it here, but it gives you the similar buzz in all the medicinal effects
of the standard Delta 9THC that you've probably smoked before.
You've probably eaten gummies before.
You've probably eaten edibles.
You've taken the tinctures of the Delta 9, the stuff that you buy in states like or cities
like Vegas, if you go to California, that stuff's legal.
Delta 8 is federally legal, meaning you can get it nationwide.
It's going to give you a similar effect, but you're not going to have the same laziness,
the same anxiety, the paranoia, or the mental fogginess that you might get with Delta 9.
Delta 8, again, it's legal.
It's a perfect substitute for anyone who uses Delta 9 who wants that same great feeling
without the negative side effects.
Delta 8 is going to have you feeling amazing, yet you're going to be functional and clear-headed
instead of lazy and paranoid.
Nothing better than popping a little three-chee gummy at the end of the day, melting into
the couch for about an hour, hour and a half.
You start drifting off to bed, make your way into the bedroom, fall asleep before your
head even hits the pillow, and you have a great, great, great night's sleep.
They're not just the best in the Delta 8 industry.
Three-chee invented the industry.
Their Delta 8 is hemp-derived.
It's available online at three.
That's the number three, chii.com, and at select retailers around the country.
You have to be over 21 to purchase, because as I said, this is the real deal.
It's going to make you feel really nice.
Go to three.
That's the number three, chii.com, shop for vapes, gummies, tinctures, and oils.
You can make your own edibles at home.
Use promo code PMT at checkout.
Let them know that we sent you promo code PMT at checkout.
You're going to get 5% off your order with that promo code.
Check them out, threechee.com.
Okay, let's get some segments.
First up, we have Trouble in Paradise for the Green Bay Packers, because Matt LaFleur
said today about Aaron Rodgers.
Aaron is our quarterback, and I see him here for a really long time.
It's always good when you have to say who your quarterback is.
It's like a devote of confidence and a head coach, right?
Rex is our quarterback.
Rex is our quarterback.
It's also, interestingly said, he sees him here for a really long time, which either
is a lie, or he just forgot that they drafted Jordan Love with the first round pick.
I think, so if Aaron Rodgers plays really well this year, which he probably will, he
might opt out.
I could see Aaron Rodgers opting out, actually.
He seems like a guy that could take a year off, maybe go hang out in California with
one of his new girlfriends at the house that he bought her, because he's a simp.
But I think that if he does play this year, and he plays well, it's going to be the Brett
Farve thing.
They're going to give him two more years.
They'll probably make him do press conferences with Jordan Love just to remind him that he's
there breathing over his shoulder.
And then after a couple of seasons, he'll go somewhere else.
It would be a real shame if Aaron went back to the tequila.
Real shame.
Real shame.
Oh, the Scotch.
I just love the idea of just saying Aaron is our quarterback, like no duh, but maybe
it isn't no duh anymore.
I'll put it this way.
Aaron Rodgers right now, if NFL teams were available on Zillow or any of those house
shop, like real estate apps, he would be looking at Las Vegas right now.
He'd be like swiping around, checking out maybe Jacksonville.
No state of income tax there.
Probably be checking out Tennessee at some point.
No state income tax there either.
Looking down at the Dallas Cowboys, he would be looking, he would rather, I think, play
for Mike McCarthy right now than Matt LaFleur.
Yes.
Because say what you want about Mike McCarthy, but he never acquired a good quarterback to
play behind him.
And he could go, Aaron Rodgers is always good in Jerry World, so maybe he goes down to Dallas.
That's right.
They use that as leverage against stack.
Dick Bayless would absolutely shit himself.
Yeah.
Oh, that would be, what would he do?
I don't know.
It's got to be a package deal with him and Mason Crossbar.
He'd have to get Aaron Rodgers Cowboys jersey on the ready for his dick high microwave.
You know what though?
When Mike McCarthy was the coach of the Packers, he would specifically bring in bad quarterbacks
just to make Aaron Rodgers feel like he was welcome.
Slighted, yeah.
No, no, no.
He'd bring him in to make Aaron Rodgers feel okay.
Oh, yeah.
Like, okay.
You know that Deshaun Kaiser isn't going to take your spot.
Yes.
Now Matt LaFleur doesn't have all that background with Aaron Rodgers and he doesn't know how
to treat him.
So now he's just like, he's really fucking with him.
Sorry.
Aaron Rodgers, I actually agree with you that like I could see this season totally blowing
things up between the two of them.
Yes.
What just fell out of, we were just watching, something just fell out of a Red Sox pitcher's
hat.
Is that legal?
Oh.
He has a card underneath his hat.
I think it's the stats.
That's kind of funny actually.
Can you do that?
He was looking at it earlier.
I think it has something to do with like the thing with the catcher.
I would like to see pitchers start to wear like arm sleeves like quarterbacks.
That'd be kind of cool.
That'd be nice.
With all the stats and like where to pitch a guy.
Yeah.
Like a play sheet.
Yeah.
Let's have it happen.
It looked like one of those things that just taunts you that says, do not eat this packet
that you always want to eat.
It's like, I didn't want to eat it until you fucking told me not to.
Now it looks delicious.
Sorry.
I got distracted by live sports.
Pretty nice.
Not sorry.
You want to do the segment, bum me out.
Yeah.
Bum me out.
Featuring Big Cat.
Thursday night would be the Hall of Fame game.
Oh, come on man.
That would have been the first.
Yeah.
Like, oh my god, there's football on our TV.
No.
No.
There's helmets.
No.
It wouldn't because the season got pushed back.
But it would.
It would have to be next Thursday.
No.
It would have been Thursday.
It would have been Thursday.
Under regular circumstances, it would have been Thursday.
Okay, let's.
I haven't bummed me out.
Okay.
Six weeks from tonight is the first NFL Sunday.
Let's go.
Great.
Good job.
Let's go, Jake.
Who would have been on Thursday night at the Hall of Fame?
I think it was the Steelers.
Sorry.
And I don't know who else.
Cowboys maybe?
Who?
It depends on who's going.
Yeah.
Steelers and Cowboys.
Okay.
I've got Steelers.
Who is going to the Hall of Fame this year?
Paul Malo?
Hmm.
Minus six and a half.
And over under is 43 and a half.
It just, that's the best when it's the first and it would have been the start of Hard Knocks.
Yeah.
Fuck.
Hard Knocks.
Yeah.
Are you taking the over?
Yeah, I would take the over and then watch as like the third string, fourth string guys
who aren't even going to make the roster suck.
And I'm like, damn, but at least I get to see football on my screen.
You see the NBC graphic.
Yeah.
It just feels good.
It does.
It feels good for about a quarter.
It feels good for less than a quarter.
It feels good for four minutes.
Tops.
I mean, we get to see Andy Dalton a little bit this year.
That would be kind of cool.
All right.
We get to see Mike McCarthy in those colors.
That's really what I would be looking forward to.
I brought myself out.
Seeing how those, how that accents his fat face.
Yeah.
That's a dinger.
Whoa.
Damn.
Is that Aaron Judge?
How many home runs do you have?
Five games in a row.
Five, five games.
He says five home runs.
Five games in a row.
Piss test.
Piss test.
Wow.
He's on pace for 55 home runs.
That's not that many.
That's crazy.
That's when we're going to get a record.
Actually, no.
Well, how many games did they play?
They played seven.
So, so he's actually on pace for 58 home games, home runs, because they missed the first
two games that you need a home run.
Five games in a row.
He's going to hit a home run every game for the rest of the season.
You'd have to assume.
Now, if he hits, if he hits 61 home runs this year, is that the new record?
Is that the new record?
Yes.
I'd have to say so.
I would say probably.
All right.
Let's finish up.
I'm going to, I'm going to unbumb you out too.
Yeah.
This Thursday, the fifth major, the PGA championship.
True.
Yes.
True.
Six major.
Six major.
Travellers is the fifth.
John Deere is the fourth.
That is true.
We have a major.
We have a major.
All right.
So, let's finish up with PR 101.
Jonas Cespadis was dead, but then he wasn't.
The way the Mets handled that is very classic Mets.
Well, it's also just so Mets to any other franchise and they're like, we can't find
this guy.
Everyone's like, oh my God, I hope he's okay.
The Mets announced we can't find this guy and everyone's like, well, he's dead.
You know what?
I just assumed that he defected from the Mets.
Like, and he did.
And he did.
He did.
He opted out.
He is the first Cuban to ever defect from the New York Mets.
Which was very smart of him because I think it was a contract year and he was batting like
121.
Yes.
And I think they also took some money away from him for his whole ranch tripping and
hurting himself on this ranch incident.
Well, a boar was chasing him, to be fair.
And then the boar saw that he tripped and fell and the boar lost interest.
And he's addicted to playing golf.
What a weird career that, what do you call him, Juan Cespedes?
Jose.
Jose.
Cespedes.
Cespedes.
I mean, Cespedes is a case study in a guy that had like three outfield putouts in the
first, I think, week of the season back in 2013, 2014.
And he's always going to be that guy in my head where I'm like, pay this guy 30 million
dollars a year.
Right.
He's worth it because there's nothing more underrated in sports, I don't think, than
like a sick 300 foot bomb from deep right field straight to third base.
Well, and he also had the, he was playing for the A's so no one watched him except for
all of his highlights.
Yeah.
And he's like, holy shit, this guy's electric.
That's true.
But he was electric for the Mets even when they, when they went to the World Series, he
was pretty damn good.
It will, it was a weird, totally Mets story to have a guy be like, wait, is he dead?
And the way that the Mets handled it, I think that their GM, I forget the guy's name, he's
a shithead.
He put, he put the news out there knowing Brody is his name, so you know he sucks.
Yeah.
He's, he's a, he was the last person cut from the water dogs this year went on to be the
GM of the Mets.
And he's, he's gonna take your spot on Outer Banks tank.
He said that Cespedes was going missing.
He's gone missing.
So everybody be on the lookout for him.
He knew that Cespedes packed up his shit and left because he was opting out, but he used
to be Cespedes's agent.
And so he's pissed that Jonas or Jose, as many of you might know him, he's commonly known
as ended up signing with Rock Nation.
And so now he's got an axe to grind with him.
So now he's like feeding all this shit into the media when, I mean, first, your first
thought, if somebody just ditches the Mets.
If you're, if you're an ugly person and you're on a date with a hot chick and they just like
go to the bathroom at a restaurant and leave, you don't immediately suspect that they're
dead.
Right.
You know, like they, I got ditched again.
Yes.
You know, they're wearing a Mets polo.
You're probably like, they got hit by a truck.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We owe them a shitload of money.
He's getting Tommy John surgery right now.
All right.
That is our show.
Anything that we missed, Billy, on your sheet.
Oh, let's check it out.
Oh, dude.
Oh, I space.
Oh, yeah.
What about space?
We went to space.
We came back.
You also had.
Second space.
Jesus Christ.
You got pretty serious on the sheet today.
I did it in depth.
I liked it.
They caught the guy who killed blue check marks and you spelled blue like the blue cheese.
No, I did it.
Yeah, you did.
I like that.
Yeah.
I like that.
It made me hungry for some wings.
So that's, you know how to do that.
A 17 year old was a kid who hacked.
That's crazy, man.
These fucking kids these days, not sound all but these kids these days.
Let's see.
Sean McDermott says backup or mask up.
That's the official, that's the official slogan of the bills this year.
And then finally, diabetes.
He didn't even just, Billy didn't even put down Wilford Brimley's name.
He just said diabetes guy passed away was considered the world's first meme.
Is that true?
No.
Everyone knew the diabetes guy.
Yeah.
The world's first meme?
Yeah.
No, it's definitely like the Star Wars kid or something.
That's like Brian.
I was going to say the comeback, Steve.
No, but like before the internet, like everyone knew, oh, diabetes didn't exist before then.
Yeah, they did.
The hieroglyphics in the pyramids.
It's like, oh, this girl's that dog face.
So then you were wrong.
I don't know.
I mean, it's a good shot.
You didn't think we were going to get to the last page.
Yeah, I can't.
Let's be honest.
I did a full breakdown on all the Pac-12 players demands.
Right.
You were hoping that.
Yeah.
I remember being like, there's no way the teacher's going to read the sixth page of
this.
Yeah.
We're good.
I do like this picture of Brooks Kepke just putting in a fucking dog.
And I'd like to throw a flag on earlier in today's episode because I'm pretty sure we
didn't talk about Bryson on Friday's show because I went home from the show and then
I saw the news break and the video come out of Bryson when I was laying in bed.
I don't want to call you out PFT, but I think that streamed at a number on your brain.
It did.
But what?
Well, Hank's comments were still correct the way he was describing it because he was saying
last week, which was last week, and then the next day, Brooks did the thing.
That was correct.
What I was trying to say was that we did not discuss the Bryson thing on the show on Thursday.
If we did, I was blacked out and I'm opting out of responsibility for that.
Yeah.
I mean, we could have.
We could not have.
We could have.
What do you think, Jake?
Do you have it?
I'm doing my research.
He's doing his research, folks.
He's doing his research.
The Bryson Ants thing happened on the 30th, which was Thursday.
Correct.
Did Brooks mimic him on Thursday, Friday, Friday, Friday, but we might not have talked
about it.
What time did the Bryson thing happen?
Yeah, it was five o'clock.
It was afternoon.
The sun setting.
Yeah, exactly.
So we were out of here.
There you go.
Okay.
We're both right.
Let's see everyone's.
BTW, RIP, Wilford, Brimley.
I didn't want that to sound disrespectful.
Love you guys.
What's BTW mean?
BTW, by the way.
Do you know what BTW is?
Oh, so, um, I just never really hear people say it instead of saying, by the way, old
man.
Old man.
What was I going to talk about?
So I was thinking about whether to go back to school or not, and I really don't know
what to do.
And it's a very pressing decision because I go back on campus and let them track me,
or do I just like do online school and just keep doing this stuff through my phone?
But you know, it's a lot weighing on my mind.
I am a foot feeling better.
I had it in a boot on Friday, then I took the boot off to realize I was stupid and I
was just being pain.
Joe Rogan in a post Malone talk about aliens, you have the talk about aliens, just to see.
I'll listen to Malone's more direct competition.
Oh.
Um, anyway, love you guys, hope you have a good one.
Oh, I'm going to do an Elmo impression.
Elmo.
Elmo, Elmo.
Okay.
I'm going to do all the impressions I can do.
No.
Sponge up.
No.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
It's part of my tape presented by bar stool sports.