Pardon My Take - Coach Butch Davis + Free Solo Climber Alex Honnold and Week 6 Picks

Episode Date: October 12, 2018

Eli Manning should probably retire and Saquon Barkley is absolutely incredible (3:30-8:48) Recapping the wild Jimmy Butler story in Minnesota and is Mark Wahlberg to blame for all of this? (8:49-15:35) Week 6 Picks and preview + Fantasy Fuccbois.(15:36-28:05) FIU Coach Butch Davis joins the show to accept his Football Guy of the Week Award, talk about his career coaching the 90's Cowboys, the late 80 Miami Hurricanes, the Browns and the insane rosters he put together at Miami in the late 90's.(33:15-51:15) Free Solo climber and star of the new movies "Free Solo" Alex Honnold joins the show to talk about climbing El Capitan at Yosemite without any ropes. He also talks about life as a high stakes climber, how his brain doesnt feel fear the same way as a normal human brain and what he has to do when he's in the middle of a climb and has to shit.(52:11-1:12:40) Segments include Sabermetrics Roquan Smith,(1:16:28-1:17:56) our Long National Nightmare is over Snoop Dogg and Todd Haley made up,(1:17:56-1:19:56) Kings stay Kings Big Ben (1:19:56-1:22:28), our newest segment Care to Comment where we comment on something we don't care about but people want us to (Kanye/Trump).(1:22:29-1:24:35) We finish the show with Hank's Grab Bag. (1:24:36-1:30:52)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, add free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, we got a twofer for all you people out there. We got Coach Butch Davis, FIU head football coach, football guy of the week.

On the show, fun interview with him. Talked about his time with Jimmy Johnson on the Cowboys, the Miami Hurricanes, those insane teams that he recruited in the late 90s, early 2000s, the Browns, all good stuff. And we also have a very special and interesting interview with Alex Honold. He is the star, I guess the star of the new movie Free Solo.

He climbed El Capitan, El Cap for those in the biz, the 3,000 foot sheer wall in Yellowstone. Yellowstone? No, Yosemite. Yosemite for those in the biz. It's an awesome documentary and we talked to him about what it is to be a free climber. He literally climbed 3,000 feet up basically

a straight wall with no ropes. He raw-dogged a mountain. Yeah, he has no fear. He took an MRI, he's got no fear. We talked to him about that really fun, interesting interview, something a little different. We also have NFL week six preview, fantasy fuck boys, should Eli retire,

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Oh, we're gonna rock it down to electric high brand new. Cash Card in my take presented by Barstool Sports. Welcome to part of my take presented by Seek Geek. Today is Friday, October 12th. And PFT, it pains me to say this, but I have to do it. Don't do it, don't do it. I know what you're gonna say. I'm gonna say, sir, Eli Manning, sir, please retire.

No, don't retire. Please retire, sir. What happened was, sir, last week we went through this whole thing about how Andrew Luck, he is the most like slapstick quarterback in the NFL. We gave credit to Phillip Rivers. We gave some credit to James Winston for being the heir apparent.

Eli heard us talking shit last week and was like, hold my beer. It's over, man. Like in that picture of him in college with that girl, he was like, hold my beer. My eyes are gonna look weird. O-V-E-R over. Listen, Eli had a great career.

Two Super Bowls. Yeah, beat Tom Brady. How did that happen? The better Manning. The better of the two Mannings. Easily in my estimation. Never lost a Super Bowl. Great looking guy.

Doesn't do a million commercials. Committed fraud only once. Yeah, allegedly. He's, he always looks perplexed. He's like curious all the time. He has a great thirst for knowledge. Not only he probably, he'll be in the hall of fame, football hall of fame,

but he will also be in the fan hall of fame for enjoyable career that you can just watch, laugh, you know, plays a couple good games. He brought it all to the table, but I've seen enough. Look, the Giants offensive line is bad and it's the worst combo possible

because the Giants offensive line is bad and Eli Manning is also a hall of fame self-sacker and he can't, he just can't, like it's just not there. Like the throws that he does make are just throws that are just, they just kind of are out there. You remember a couple years ago

when he got sacked into his own offensive linemen's butt and his butt made Eli's nose bleed? Yeah. That was awesome. Yeah, I'm going to put Eli Manning not just in the NFL hall of fame. I think he goes in the face hall of fame of all time.

Yes. All time face. But spin zone for you Giants fans out there, Saquon Barkley is absolutely incredible, breathtakingly so. He is as close to Barry Sanders as we're going to get in terms of, like that squatty body, huge ass legs,

makes everyone miss. He had two runs tonight that were just incredible and if you suck enough, which I think you might do, you will be able to get a quarterback. Well, are we not giving Eli enough credit for being really good at handoffs? Because all those runs start with Eli Manning.

No, he's not good at that. No, he's very good. He's very good at getting the hell out of the way once he no longer touches it. He will never throw a block and screw up a play by blocking the wrong guy. A common theme on this show is that we oftentimes do knee-jerk reactions and then unlearn all of our,

the things that we thought we learned. And I just want to say this right now because I looked at the schedule next Monday night. Do you know who's playing? Probably the Giants. Do you know who they're playing? Let's just say it's big cat's personal, unstoppable force versus moveable object.

I'm going to say it is, it feels like the Giants and the Falcons. I don't know what to do. I might just bet both of the teams for like max amount. And it's like, well, guess what? I can't quit either of them. I honestly think the Giants would have been better starting Lil Wayne at quarterback tonight.

It's bad. It was really, really bad. And full disclosure, we're courting this at half time. So we're that confident that this ship is not, Odell Beckham went to the locker room with like 10 seconds left. We pulled the Randy Moss. There was a boat waiting for him at the other end of the locker.

He's out. He's out of here. Also fire jerseys. Fire jerseys. Really good jerseys. Great pants. I think, you know what? As great as Sequan's quads are, I think they really popped in those white pants

with the blue and red stripes on the side. And the huge name plates on the back. They're awesome. Awesome. For blind guys like me, I really enjoyed it. Eagle season is saved. Carson Wentz, there was no QB controversy. But Carson Wentz, Eagle season saved.

They're now three and three, which is essentially like a 10 game lead in the NFC East. And yeah, the Giants just look for the draft, I guess. I don't know. They're booing them. It's just sad. Like you got to know when to walk away, either that or see if you can get traded to Denver and do that thing,

where maybe you get like a few steroids delivered to your wife's name. That happened in Indy. Yeah, I know. But then go to Denver after that, get a neck surgery and be like, oh, well, weird. I can play again. Oh man, the altitude there would be great for Eli's pupils.

And just like imagine Eli in altitude, probably stoned out in Denver. It's legal there playing. And the ultimate Eli Manning faces would just, oh my God. You wouldn't know. You wouldn't be able to tell the difference if he was stoned or not. No.

Because his face is just always just mouth, mouth open. He looks like he's on like a DMT trip 24 seven. Yeah. He looks like he's in pass out. He's seen God. Yeah. And it was especially on display tonight. We replaced the Gatorade and the Giants coolers with

ayahuasca. Let's see if anybody can tell the difference. Nope. Nope. Sure can't. We're going to get to our NFL week six. By the way, we fooled everybody. This first part of the show was actually big tide commercial.

Yeah. So we tricked you into that. Fuck that. Assholes. My brain's not big enough. More on that later. But we have NFL week six preview. I hate saying NFL week six because it's like the ticking time

of my life. So we are halfway through the second quarter of the season. Halfway through the second quarter. We're going to get to that in a minute. Before that, we have to talk about the news that is kind of taking over the sports world. And that is one James Butler basically destroying the Timberwolves in his attempt to get traded.

So if you have missed everything, what has happened is Jimmy Butler wants to be traded from the Timberwolves. He's made that very clear. There has been some kind of riff between himself, Kat, Carl Anthony Towns and Andrew Wiggins. We don't know what the riff started. There's been a lot of rumors flying around, whatever. You can believe whatever you want to believe.

Let's just say those guys don't really like each other. That's fair. So Jimmy wants to be traded. He has not been showing up to practice or media day or anything. On Tuesday, he called Rachel Nichols and said, hey, I'm ready for my one on one interview. Rachel Nichols goes to Minnesota on Wednesday. Jimmy shows up to practice for the first time and basically

emasculates the entire organization. He takes the bench players, the third stringers, and beats the first team. He yells at the GM, says, you fucking need me. He belittles Kat. He essentially just, yeah, like the whole team is just standing there like, what the hell? And he beats them with the third stringers, then walks off

the court straight into the Rachel Nichols interview. And Rachel Nichols is like, hey, I just saw this Wode's report that this all happened. He's like, yep, I did it. And essentially gets to use that interview to be like, here's why. So we're thinking that Jimmy had this planned out ahead of time.

And he called Rachel because he knew he was going to do this while he was in town. It was the only time he showed up to practice. He literally did this, all this, and then walked off. Listen, I'm probably as big a Jimmy Butler fan as you'll find out there. Actually, I am, let's be fair, I'm a Jimmy Butler skeptic through and through.

I'm skeptical of his top 20-ness. But this was a Jordan move. This was a Jordan move. This was as pure a Jordan move as you'll ever see. And then he called a player's only meeting. This has got to set a record for the fastest player's only meeting in the history of an NBA season. But that was shot down.

Jeff Teague said, no, it didn't happen. Really? Yes. But then I saw somebody else. I saw somebody refute the refute. No. And yeah, it's like everyone's just basically all over the place.

I also saw a report that Carl Anthony Towns tried to like huddle everyone up after the practice, after Jimmy walked out and was like, we need to control our emotions. And I was like, dude, you, it's over. Yeah. Like you just got an outfit. There's only one cure for this. And that's a sex boat.

Yeah. Well, he needs to slap Jimmy. He needs to punch Jimmy. He needs to do something because Jimmy Butler, that is his team and he's not even going to be on it, but it's his team. Like he's going to own two teams now. Yeah. He's going to own the heat when he gets traded there and the

Timberwolves because he just, and there was actually also reports that like the rest of the team was like, wow, that was awesome. Yeah. And wow, that was really cool. So there's no way that he can stay on this team. We're in agreement there, right? So he has like a list of three teams he wants to go to.

I don't know how his contract works if he has a no trade clause where he can void a trade. Yep. But I know he wants to go to New York or the Clippers. Yes. Right? There was probably a third team in there. In Miami.

In Miami. Yeah. I'll just say on behalf of the New Zealand Breakers, we'll take you. Yeah, we will. We'll take you. And you know what? I'll put Jimmy Butler immediately in the top 20 of the

NBL. He can also yell at anyone. He can yell at our owner, Matt Walsh. He can say, you fucking need me. He can do whatever he wants. We're okay with that. But also is now reports that Insider reports, which it might actually be me because I saw a report.

It was like Bulls Insider says that Mark Wahlberg, Jimmy Butler has changed since his relationship with Mark Wahlberg, which is something I think I've said many times. But it's true. Like he has become full Hollywood. He's best friends with Mark Wahlberg. He's yelling at people. I don't know.

How did that happen? I have no idea, but they're best friends. They are best friends. Probably in Vegas for like USA Basketball is my guess. Mark Wahlberg used to just show up to the Bulls facility and like they met at like an open gym. Yeah. Or entourage.

I don't know. Like entourage. Have you seen some of the pictures of Butler smirking though? Yeah. The take that he looks exactly like Frylock from Aquatine. Yes. He's proving me more and more right every single second. And Predator Rachel, she did a great job interviewing him and

it was such a fucking awesome like day of just Jimmy Butler. And you're right, PFT, like they have to trade him. But at the same time, maybe they just trade everyone else except Jimmy Butler and he just plays one on five all year. Just leaving with a third team. It sounds like the third team's better. Yeah. I really don't know.

So, and let's just, let's just, because we're kind of all on Jimmy Butler's side. Let's just say Jimmy Butler is for sure a dickhead. Like 100%. Yes. It's a very weird move to be doing this. Yes. He's 100% a dickhead, a diva.

Nate listed. Like I have been a long time Jimmy Butler supporter, but it's clear that he's really feeling himself these days. Right. And this was supposed to be like the perfect situation for him. Going into the tibs. They did that hug in the airport. They made out in the, I think they made out in the airport.

He's wearing his fanny pack with a football member. Yep. Yeah. Exactly. So, so I don't know like what other situation would be better for him. He gets to Miami. Turn back to the Bulls. I don't know.

Yeah. Back to the Bulls. Yeah. I'm sure that would work. That would definitely work. Yeah. Totally trust the front office. So that's the Jimmy Butler news.

If he gets traded, I guess mission accomplished. Can I just say fuck you to the NBA for, for making me care this much about basketball before the season even starts. Well, we talked about how NBA Twitter really likes to suck its own dick and be like, oh, we're the best. We're the Steve Bannon. We're the 24-7-365. This one warranted it because Jimmy Butler really did go crazy.

So this is why NBA Twitter, if you're listening to this right now, this is why you don't freak out over like an emoji or someone throwing like maybe a sub tweet out in early September. Save it for the moments that need it like this. Because you're the boy who cried wolf when you're like, NBA Twitter is the best. Well, no, it's not always the best. Today or yesterday, it was the best.

It took me three days to actually buy into this story and say it's for real because it was like, oh, this is just another snake in the grass, like Instagram thing that's going on. Right. Did you see Jimmy Butler's story? I assumed he put something on his IG story that was like talking shit about his teammates. No, it was actually legit.

Speaking of snake in the grass, Instagram, just a little shout out to the Triple B whose future, future recurring guest, maybe Kevin Durant, Triple B, what up? He commented on a video on the partial sports Instagram. He put a snake on a putting green and he just commented, oh shit, let me get out of the way real quick. He's starting to become, I don't know what I could do. I like Kevin Durant.

No. I'm going to say it right now. I mean, he's a Triple B, but you can like a Triple Back B. Yeah. He's becoming funny-ish. Yeah. See, back in the day before he became Kevin Durant registered trademark Kevin Durant, he was actually funny on Twitter.

If you read his old shit where he's like responding to models and all that shit, he's funny. He's a funny guy. Just funny how? Somewhere along the lines with the Russell Westbrook thing, he, Russ broke his brain. Yeah, for sure. And he broke his own brain being like, I'm not ring chasing.

All right, so let's do some NFL Week 6. I want to start with our, are we sure they're good games and maybe a couple other games that we're looking at? Yeah. I have a clear, are we sure they're good game? And it's the Steelers versus the Bengals. Yep, that's a pretty odd. Well, the Bengals were in my other shirt.

Are we sure they're good game last week? Yeah. Well, that's, that's, you can do that. Okay. So we're still not sure about the Bengals. Right. And also both teams, I feel like whoever wins this, because this is a, this is the theme for the AFC North.

The Steelers and the Ravens are always kind of the big bad boys on the block. So when the Bengals have a chance to make it, you know, they're four and one, they win this game, they're five and one now and Steelers are two and three. That's a big difference. So this is like, if they don't win this game, then the Steelers like, yeah, we still kind of own this division. You know who I've gotten my, are we sure they're good game? Ooh.

This is weird that I'm saying. Can I take this? Yeah. Chargers Browns. Yeah. It's weird that I've got the Browns in, in, are we sure they're good because they might be good. I don't know.

I think, I think Hugh Jackson is just engineered to play for a tie every single game. So they play exactly to the level of their competition. And the Chargers are by far my number one, they can't travel East team of all time. Yeah. Anytime they have to get on a plane and travel time zones, I'm like, that sucks for them. They're not going to be the same. I still have that thought on my head too. I think they beat what?

The bills. Yeah, but that through it all. That was an aberration is what that was. I think it was Nathan Peterman. My backup. Yeah. My backup in this one is the Bears and the Dolphins. Yeah.

So are we sure the Bears are good? The Bears are road favorites. Yeah. Are good. Dolphins not the ones. Mitch has the arm sleeve on. Yeah. Sixties with the arm sleeve.

Got to keep it on. Don't fuck with it. Yeah. This is, he's got the artisan. I don't want to say what I'm going to say. Okay. I've already looked ahead. I've already looked ahead.

I've already said it. And I'm ready for six and two. Yeah. It's Rams. I'll give a one loss in the next four, but I'm ready for six and two. And oh boy. Now we're starting to think of Bayou. Like I did that.

I did that conversation with myself. It's going to be Rams, Bears and the NFC championship game. And the Bears are probably going to beat them with that physical defense. This is going to be the worst fucking audio to playback. It's going to be Bears Patriots in the Super Bowl. So it's going to be Bayou. We're going to pit Big Cat against Hank. God damn it.

This is going to be the worst audio. Yeah. Erase all of this after the show. Do it. Do it. Do it. Like who did the deletion thing after like this? Hillary Hill.

No. Yeah. That's true. Good point. No. Who did the this will delete? Oh. Oh.

Banksy. Yeah. I'll do it. I'll do it. Banksy on this. As soon as the Bears don't make the playoffs, it automatically starts shredding or like mission impossible. Yeah.

That's what we need this mission. Should you choose to accept it? Yeah. So my loser leaves town game is the Colts and the Jets. Oh yeah. You think that. Okay. Yeah.

I don't think either of those teams are good. I think the Jets could be frisky. I think that the Colts could be frisky if Andrew Luck's shoulder is as healthy as I think it is. Mm. NTY Hilton. NTY Hilton. Yeah.

Last week was an aberration. They were off of four days. Like really, it was three days. It's funny when you talk about a team playing like the Sunday afternoon game, they start to delve into like the hours in the day on Sunday and they're like, well, they finished playing their game at seven and then they had to play on Thursday night. So it's really only a two day week for them. Dude.

Crazy schedule anomaly that I noticed when I was looking at the bear schedule, the bears play the Lions two weeks before Thanksgiving, then they play them on Thanksgiving Day. So they play the Lions two times in 11 days. I love that. That's going to be a little thing we'll circle. Yeah. I love that one. Just throw up on a graphic on NBC.

Hey. CBS has the early game. Last time these two teams played. Yeah. Was 11 days ago. 11 days ago. Want to feel old? Yeah.

Want to feel old? 11 days ago, you hadn't gotten paid yet for the 15th of the month. That's how old this is. You were feeling rich then. Yeah. And now you're poor. I have for, I just can't quit them, Loser Leaves Town, Bucks Falcons. If Falcons just win this game, just win this game and let me believe again.

It's a one and four. Let me believe again. So that's my Loser Leaves Town and then game of the week. I think we all agree. Yeah. Chiefs and Patriots is going to be awesome. We'll see if Mahomes is for real. I don't, he's had a lot of those.

Yeah. But did you notice that like he was, obviously he wasn't perfect against the Jags. He wasn't like the same as he was the dent, the Denver game and the Jacksonville game. He was a little different than he was in the first three weeks. I think the Chiefs win this one outright. Wow. I do. Wow.

Yeah. Cassish, Cassish Marsh isn't walking through that door in New England. Remember last year, Alex Smith went up there and torched him. Yes. Into the Patriots season. Week one. Week one. They never recovered.

Facts only. I'm going to say it's three and a half points is a lot. I don't know that I would take that. I think it's going to be a close game. I think it's over 59. Yeah. And I'm betting it. Oh, listen, when Vegas does that to you, they are challenging.

73. They are saying over. Are you man enough? Yeah. Or it's like basically it's getting chicken. It's when, when, when Las Vegas makes a total over 56 points in the NFL, I'm essentially just walking into my own version of guts, the old show, like do, do, do, do, do you have it?

Good. Will you bet it over 59? Yes, I will. I'll probably be 20 to 17. Yep. And I'll fucking eat myself. I'm absolutely taking the over on that one. Yes.

The thought never occurred to me. No. No. Hell no. You want to do a couple of picks? Yeah, let's do it. All right. Let's do a couple of picks.

All right. I'll take, I'll start with an under. The under that I love, love, love this week is the Jags Cowboys under 40 and a half because the Cowboys can't score and the Jags have a good defense and the boat will probably win 37 to three still under 40 and a half. There you go. That's all you do. You want to go for another one?

Where are they playing? That's in Dallas, right? In Dallas. In the Big D. I like that one. My under is going to be Rams Denver. So it's 52 and a half. But it's going to be in the snow. It is.

Snow football, which also means the return of I fucking love cocaine, gifts and memes. Well, let's not get ahead of ourselves because it might be a dusting. You know what the worst is? You need to go full on. Okay. I'm already bad at myself because if I get all worked up for a snow game and then I tune in and it's a flurry or if there's no snow, that's the most disappointed I'll be all year.

See, I think you just have to go. No expectations because it is early October still like you can't or mid October. You can't do. You can't. You cannot. We're getting snow. Expectations. It's going to be a blizzard.

Okay. I will take as my favorite, I'm going to take the Seahawks minus two and a half because John Gruden gets vertigo every time he gets on a plate. Okay. That's my entire reasoning and I love it. Yeah. It's London, baby. I don't know what's going to happen there.

My favorite is going to, I'm going to take the Browns minus one against the Chargers. I think, and I'm not, you know what, I'll just say it. I think this is the week that the Browns put it together offensively and blow a team out. Ten points or more. I don't know. The Chargers still can score. You forget they're traveling east though. That's true.

That's true. That's at least 10 points. So yeah, you're right. Times those are undefeated. 10 points. There you go. All right. My dog of the week.

It's tough. I already, I should have probably written this down before I got to, oh, I'm going to take the Broncos. Okay. That's who I had to. Yeah. All right. Let's do it.

Let's double up. Let's double up. In the altitude. Yeah. Everyone's down on the Broncos. Everyone's up on the Rams. Give me the Broncos. And then my over, I actually like the Bengals and Steelers over 52 and a half.

Okay. Yeah. I can see that one. I can see that. Andy Dalton is good Andy so far. Yes, he is. I'm sure he's going to be the Ravens and the Titans 41 and a half. Oh, that's, that's going to be one that you're going to have to, that's hair on your chest.

I'm going to scratch and claw. That's hair on your chest back. I'm going to look like Mike Vable afterwards. That's a tough one. That's a tough one. Hank, give us one last one. This is my George Costanza pick of the week. It's the Texans minus 10 because I don't understand why it's 10.

Because it's the Bills. It's the Bills. But the Texans aren't that good. But it's the Bills on the road. The Texans to Sean Watson though. And the Bills. Counterpoint to Sean Watson. It's not that good.

JJ Watt. Jandre Hopkins is going to do spin routes. You just have to say the names of the players and you're like, oh yeah. Will Fuller the fourth. Yeah, Will Fuller. 10 points in the NFL is a lot. Alfred Blues. How many Fullers do the Bills have because the Texans have four?

None. Yeah. I mean, you guys are, you guys are convincing me that my pick is correct. Calvin Benjamin is very fat. He is very, very fat. Yeah, very fat. I mean, I'm taking the Texans. So I like what you guys are saying.

Okay. All right. Before we get to our interviews, we have Butch Davis and then we have Alex Honold, the free climber who, uh, free climb El Cap. El Capitan. El Cap if you're, El Cap if you're, I actually felt like such a loser because we were talking about it before and I was like, El, you said El Capitan. I was like, dude, no one calls it El Capitan.

People in the climbing community call it El Cap. And then when I, when we get to the interview, I said El Capitan. He's like, yeah, you know, El Cap. Fuck. Yeah. You could have. But then you said, It was in Yosemite and then you reversed it and said Yellowstone and you were right

the first time. I got bad, I got bad info. Yeah. I got bad info on locations. If you haven't seen the movie, go see it. Yes. I, I'm serious. Like I saw it a couple of weeks ago.

It's awesome. Yes. I saw, I saw the, I watched the preview and the preview is awesome. So preview might be better than the movie. It is actually. Yeah. I like the book. All right.

So, and then we have Butch Davis. So before we do that, that time of the week. Yeah. Fuck boys. Pft. Start us off. What's up? This is Dominic.

Dominice. I'm here to tell you all the info you need for your fantasy football weekend. Guess what I'm starting this weekend. I'm starting Fender amplifiers. That's right. I got my hands on a bad boy Mustang GT amp. Shout out Fender. I call that suck of the subway, Jared.

Cause this one goes straight to 12 this weekend. I'm sitting down. I'm learning the entire Bon Jovi catalog. Front to back. We're a JBJ family. No deal with that Bruce Brink's rap. I'm living on a prayer, baby. My sitting.

I'm sitting. Travis Kelsey. When he sees Rob Gronkowski, he's going to be like a dog, seeing a slightly more assertive dog at the dog park. He's going to start barking his truly face off. Very catchy makes. He's going to get 25 guys with the penalties. My sleeper this week is Kid Rock.

Kanye got all the pop in the White House, but the Detroit destroyer was in there and Trump was singing. Bar with the bar. Yeah. Jared's really shitty. Will you please date my daughter? Come on. She's really pretty.

All right. This is Maki Yadwark. My stathom is Josh Gordon. Jules Edelman, friend of the program said he was looking good. He's really smart. The Patriots are going to put up a big number this week. Put them in your lineup. Get some points.

Go Brady. Don't touch that 5-4-1. Josh Gordon. My sit-em is Rajan Rondo. He betrayed his mentor Kevin Gannett by doing their old tip-off ritual with former bitter enemy LeBron James. That's fucked up. You don't do that to an old family member.

It's disrespectful. Keep it in house. Oh, I think LeBron invented that move. You pussy. Nope. Fuck you. You don't lose sex moves from your first wife on your second wife. Are you actually mad at me right now?

Yeah. Fuck you. My sleeper is Aladdin, the greatest Disney movie of all time. Yeah, I said it. It's being made into a live action movie starring Will Smith, The Fresh Prince, which means it's short of fucking slap. Sounds like nobody here saw Lion King. Oh, I like it.

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But I mean, Seyquan Barkley is definitely a guy you're like, holy shit, this is going to be awesome for at least four years. You know what, in the back of your head, when you're watching all these runs and you're feeding the ball 30 times a game, you're also thinking he's going to get an injury at some point. Like he's going to get like. I don't know if his legs can get it. He's going to get like a knee sprain or like a sprained ankle or something like that.

Is that contagious? Because Odell can just pass that right to him. So much muscle. Yeah. No chance. I trust me. I know how that goes. All right.

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It's a Panthers. Yes. Nailed it. Nailed it. Florida Panthers. Nailed it. Yeah. So Coach Davis has won our prestigious award, Football Guy of the Week.

He won it because with an all time quote, when asked about turnover props, he said, we have a prop. We let them keep their scholarship. So let's start there. That's a great quote. So I think we can be on the record here saying that you are never going to have any weird turnover props on your sideline. Yeah.

I don't think that that's ever going to exist in our program. I'll just share, real quickly, you know, Big Cat, I'll share a story with both of you. Okay. Defensive coordinator, Dallas Cowboys. Okay. And we were three times NFL's number one defense in the national football league during the Super Bowl years. Okay.

So I'm the defensive coordinator. And on Mondays, you give out all the awards, game ball this and know who played good and giving out the guys in the grades and stuff like that. Now, this is, this, this goes back old school crazy stuff. Okay. We had a piece of absolutely poster board that we would cut out out of the game program small, little two by two black and white pictures of the players that did good. Okay.

So this is like week six and we, we would cut them out. We'd stick it on that deal and, you know, and say, you know, he was the defensive player of the game or he made a big play or just that and the other to help us win the game. So I walk in, I'm talking to the team and I'm looking on the front row and Jim Jeff Coat, who was a phenomenal great player, first round draft choice out of Arizona State. He's sitting there, lip all puffed up, eyes all red and, and, and Terry and sniffling. And I'm looking on Jim, what's, what's the matter, Jim? You know, I'm sitting there thinking, Oh my God, something happened to his life.

His kids go, my picture is not on the wall. I think about this guys. He makes $2.8 million a year. Okay. And he's worried about a black and white picture on a cardboard deal posted and taped to the wall in the team defensive meeting room. And I said, Jim, I said, you've been up there now three times in the, in the first seven or eight games.

And I said, Marge, the secretary, she has to go find another program to cut your picture and he goes, she better get it up soon. Okay. So, so that's, you know, so when people think about, you know, motivation and I get it with, you know, programs trying to do things to motivate the guys, but, you know, the championship team Super Bowls and the national championship teams at Miami and the great players, the Ed Reeds and the Ray Lewises and the people like that, all they want to do is win the game and they want to be the best defense in the country, whether it's in college or

in the NFL and, you know, so, you know, when I said the deal about, you know, we're going to let them keep their scholarship. If they do that, that's kind of the, the culture that we're trying to build here. Yeah. Isn't the football itself, its own turnover prop, like if Sean Taylor strips a football away, takes it to the sideline, that's his own turnover chain. He got it for himself. Yeah.

He went out and found his own. In the NFL, absolutely. I mean, that's what guys do. If they catch a touchdown or they get an interception and stuff like that, some guys will keep them. And, you know, and most of the time, to be honest with you, a lot of those things, they get autographed and they're giving away to kids and children at children's hospitals. And, and they keep some of them if they're special or unique. Obviously like Drew Brizzi the other night, I mean, that was spectacular.

You know, the number one passer in the national football league. And then low and behold, he breaks the record with the, with the touchdown, which, you know, those kinds of things. And I'm sure there's tons of people have played collegially in the NFL that, you know, something special like that happens. You deserve to keep the ball or whatever. You know. So you mentioned the Cowboys.

Rod Maranelli just gave out his old neck roll to Jalen Smith. That's like his thing that player gets to wear for the rest of his season. I kind of liked that one. I don't even think guys wear neck rolls. They don't even think guys wear neck rolls. They used to wear those little sausage round things, you know, long time ago. But now I don't think they wear them anymore. Yeah.

Yeah. So you, you've been a football coach your entire life. Have you noticed any difference like in the kids you're coaching now and having to deal with them a little differently, the props or the Fortnite video games or, or, you know, whatever the, you know, we always blame millennials, which is kind of a joke. But have you noticed you had to change your process? Yeah, a little bit. Absolutely.

I mean, you know, I can remember going back to working for juniors and assisted cuts and you'd go in and I recruited guys like Jesse Armstead and some of the most elite players in the country that come and play for, for Miami and recruited guys like Leslie O'Neill. That was a phenomenal player for the San Diego Chargers played for us at Oklahoma State. And you'd go in and I mean, you'd make this great home presentation and you'd talk to him about, you know, what sports do they play? We'll coach. I play basketball.

You know, I play, I play on the baseball team. I run track like Ed Reid. A lot of people don't realize that he not only was a great football player, he was a terrific point guard in basketball. He won the Louisiana state champion in the javelin. I mean, he was just a great all around athlete and you'd go in and maybe there'd be like one or two little trophies and maybe there'd be a little ribbon with a medal around it. Now you go into homes and it looks like Coopers Town.

I mean, you go into a guy that I'm not even sure if they're good enough to give a scholarship to and they got like 300 trophies, 200 plaques. They got all these ribbons that they've been given stuff. So absolutely the culture has changed, you know, and, you know, and you got it. You got to understand, you know, what motivates kids and what's the, what's their desires and, and, you know, and sometimes, you know, they need to be a little bit of derecruited once they get there because they come in thinking that they're the greatest things and slice bread and they all of a sudden they get on a team and they find out, you know

what, there's about 80 other guys in this team that's pretty good. So how do you do that? How do you go about derecruiting some guy? Yeah, you just, I mean, you do, you be honest with them and you just tell them that, hey, you know, unfortunately, I've been around a lot of great programs, a lot of really, really good coaches and good players and you say, look, this is, this is the path that guys like a Russell Maryland or, you know, Cortez Kennedy, when I was an assistant coach and then when I was a head coach, you know, obviously three years ago,

Robert Quinn was the defensive player of the year in the national football league with the sacks. And, and so when you're recruiting a kid that's coming in, you can say, look, let me just tell you what, what, you know, Robert Quinn was like when he was a sophomore, junior and senior in high school and two-time national champion in wrestling and just love to compete and love to play and didn't care about all the, you know, the trophies and the awards, he just wanted the team to win. So, you know, you just be honest with them and tell them and, you know, and share stories with them about the guys that you've been around.

I was blessed beyond belief to be around guys, you know, the Jerome Browns and some of the great players Alonzo Heismann back in the, in the mid 80s at the Miami days. And then, you know, when I went back as the head coach at Miami, you know, we had, you know, phenomenal great, you know, got players. I think we had like 23 to 24, you know, players drafted in like eight or 10 or 12 of them were first rounders, you know, like a three-year period of time. So, you know, when you share those stories with guys, I think it resonates and it kind of wakes them up and they realize, you know, the sacrifices they're going to have to make

if they're going to be good. So you mentioned the Miami and I actually, it's one of my favorite things to do is to go back and look at the 2000 and also 2001, you were at the Browns then, but you recruited a bunch of those guys to look at those rosters and just have your jaw drop at the talent. So I'm going to say a few of the names. So the people at home who might, you know, maybe the younger listeners and then I have a couple of questions. So you got names like in the 2000 team, it's like Clinton Portis, Santana Moss, Reggie

Wayne, Andre Johnson, Vince Wilfork, Ed Reed, Sean Taylor, like you have, you know, have some insane Jeremy Shockey, yeah, Kellen Winslow, Roscoe Parrish, like guys that you endorse. Ken Dorsey, you guys got named DJ Williams played in the end of it, like Antro Roll. It is insane to look back at those names and see what you put together. So my question is two part one, what is the best recruit, what is the best player you've ever recruited and two, what is the hardest, you know, like the hardest guy to sell or the best story, like, hey, trying to get Reggie Wayne or whatever it may be in terms

of the recruiting living room? Well, I mean, obviously, I mean, all of those guys, I mean, maybe the hardest one was maybe DJ Williams from the standpoint because of the distance that he was, he was in California. He was USA Today defensive player of the year. He was, he was kind of divided as to whether or not did he want to be a linebacker? Did he want to be a running back? Because he was actually really, really good and people don't realize this before he became a first round draft choice as a linebacker.

His freshman year just to get him on the field, because at that time we had Danny Morgan. We had Jonathan Vilma, we were loaded with linebackers and DJ was such a great athlete. He actually played fullback in the year that we beat Florida in the sugar bowl and he caught a touchdown pass, but he played fullback his freshman year just so that he could play. And then he flipped over the next spring in 2001 and became a, you know, and obviously a great linebacker. He was one of the most difficult ones just because of how many players we had on the team and the distance and those kinds of things.

And he was a little bit of a tough, you know, sell for him. But once he got there, got around the culture, got around the players, they, like all football teams, your players are your best recruiters. They sold them as to the culture and how good the team was going to be and the likelihood of him playing. He was a starter and a high profile player there. He was probably going to become a first round draft choice. So he's a great story to tell kids that, that people are underappreciated and they don't

have a great, they're not the five star guy and they can end up being the five star guy if they got the work ethic. Wow. Yeah. In addition to all those great players that you've coached, I was looking through some of your career here. You've, you've actually coached with a lot of really interesting coaching staffs. So I'm just curious, like between the, the Dallas Cowboys of the early mid nineties,

you actually coach on, you coach that Cleveland Browns team with Bruce Arians and then obviously Miami and all that. What is the most fun environment you've had in terms of coaching staff that you've been around? Yeah. The fun environment, you know, was probably the Dallas days because the majority of the guys that were on the Dallas staff that, you know, helped win all those Super Bowls, you know, the originally five or six of us actually started out as assistant coaches

with Jimmy at Oklahoma State. And then when Jimmy got the job, I was fortunate enough to go to Miami the first year because there was only one opening and so he took me and I was there, but eventually Tony Wise and Dave Wonsted and a lot of guys there and then guys that were on the staff at Joe Brodsky's, the Hubbard Alexander's, you know, because we'd spent so many, so many years together and coaching staffs guys are, are, it's almost like extended families because we went to the 13 consecutive January 1 bowl games at Miami in that program. So every holiday, every Christmas, every new year, your families, you know, you're never

at home celebrating those holidays. You're always in a hotel someplace in the Sugar Bowl or the Fiesta Bowl and then obviously going to Dallas and stuff. And so those were because the relationship that you had, you know, that was, that was unique and special. The Cleveland one was, was remarkable from the standpoint that the staff that we put together, you know, in year two, we took the Browns to the playoffs and on that staff, Todd Bolls, who's the head coach of the New York Jets right now, Chuck Pagano, who was

recently the head coach of the Indianapolis, Bruce Arians, I mean, we had some terrific football coaches there and trying to turn the culture around, got them into the playoffs and you know, it was, you know, that was, there were some steps being taken forward there that if things could have stayed on track there, could have maybe potentially turned the Browns, you know, franchise completely around. I was going to ask that, does anyone ever, like, do you not take pride, but has anyone ever come up to you and been like, Hey, sorry for what happened to the Browns because you were actually the last good coach they've had because they haven't been in the playoffs

since the curse, the curse of Butch Davis. Yeah, I don't know if it's the curse of me, but yeah, there's been people that, you know, have said, you know, hey, where things would have gone differently and unfortunately, you know, one of the biggest tragedy of the whole thing was, was when Mr. Alerner passed away, that people that actually know him, he was a phenomenal, phenomenal man. He was an ex-Marine. He was tough. He was gritty.

He had been in business. He'd actually gone bankrupt previously in business. So he knew loyalty, he knew hard work, he knew all the things that made his businesses successful and he wanted to see that in his, in the Browns franchise and, you know, the year that we, in 2002, when we did go to the playoffs, he passed away, you know, near the end of that season and it's a shame he didn't get to see it to get into the playoffs, but he was a great, great man. And I think, you know, had he not passed away, I think that there would have been a lot more

progress made towards, you know, making the Browns a, you know, a real contender every year in the, at FC Central, at FC Central. Do you still hate Florida State? Sure. Yeah, it's a no-job zone. I got, I got that sign, I got that sign in my office. Yeah. You have a little bit of resentment.

How can you coach it? How can you coach it in Miami for 11 years and not? Yeah. That's fair. Are you still, you still feel a little bit cheated about the 2001 Orange Bowl? Absolutely. Yeah, I would too. Yeah, there's no doubt.

I mean, the very first change in the entire national championship before they got into the playoffs committees and stuff like that was the very next year was, let's consider head-to-head. And because we had beaten Florida State and we'd run the table and, you know, and obviously I think we earned the opportunity to play Oklahoma in the Orange Bowl that year. Yeah. All right. My last question, the Seeky question put in promo code TAKE, you get $10 off.

Go see the FIU Panthers. You can go $10 cheaper with promo code TAKE coach. You just mentioned Charles Haley, one of your top five players you ever coached. You want to give us a couple more of your top five guys? You don't have to rank in order. Yeah, you don't have to. Yeah, Jerome Brown, you know, unfortunately passed away in a car accident, but I think clearly he would have been a pro football hall of fame candidate.

I mean, he was a freak. I mean, he could, he was one of the most dominating guys on a collegiate level that literally from a defensive line standpoint, they could take the game over. I mean, he was kind of a version of like JJ Watts is at the Houston Texans that if he's on fire, you, you're not moving the ball. And I mean, he just dominated teams like Oklahoma and Penn State and West Virginia and Florida and Florida State. I mean, he would be their biggest nightmare.

You know, he was one of them. You know, Ed Reed was spectacular. I mean, Ed had as much football instincts as maybe anybody that I've ever been around. I mean, he just literally, I mean, before they broke the huddle, it's almost like they had told him what the play was that from formations and motions and pre snap reads. I mean, he was just a phenomenal playmaker. He was, he's one of those guys. We already talked about Robert Quinn, you know, his ability as a, as a pass rusher

and stuff at North Carolina. He was, he was spectacular. Reggie Wayne, you know, I mean, almost instantly, I mean, knew he was going to have great success not on the collegiate level, but you know, in the, in the national football league, just from the standpoint that his route running, he was smooth as silk in and out of breaks and he could break your ankles and, and had great hands and he was tough and physical. And, you know, so those, I mean, I've been blessed. I mean, there's just an awful lot of guys.

We'd have to have three shows to go through all the guys that were unique and special. Yeah, it's crazy. It's, it's, it is crazy to look at those. I definitely tell people if you're, if you're 2000, 2001 Miami Hurricanes, look up that roster and just be odd. He's got one less. I think in the, yeah, somebody told me that in that picture that we had, I think it was like 97 guys in the picture and like maybe 80, something of them were, were scholarship

players and eight or 10 walk-ons and stuff. And I think 52 of them made it to the NFL. That's crazy. So we always talk about, usually as a joke, could Alabama beat the Browns? I legitimately think that your 2000 or 2001 team at the University of Miami could have put up a stiff competition against an NFL team. What do you think? No, no chance.

I don't think the Alabama, the Miami, just because, I mean, people don't realize even the, even the teams that go four and 12, they're about 12, 12 points away from being 12 and four in the national football league. They are unbelievably physically talented, the size, the speed, you know, the worst players on the team would be superstars on a collegiate team and it's just, you know, I just, I, I've never felt like, you know, that it would ever even be, if you remember back in them, you guys were way too young, but they're once upon a time, the collegiate All-Stars used to play the NFL championship team in Chicago and they get smoked.

I mean, they would just get, you know, and you took the 45 best collegiate players in America and played one NFL team and the score would be, you know, 42 to 10 or something, you know, and then back in the 50s and the 60s and I just don't think they could do it. I think you would have held the, the like 1991 Buccaneers to under 30 points. I'll put it that way. Yeah. Man, maybe so. I don't know.

Yeah. All right. Well, coach, thank you so much. Congrats on winning football guy of the weekend. If we ever make it down there, we'll definitely take you, take a, you know, check it out and do a visit. Yeah. You got to bring president Dave down.

Get him in, get him in here and help him rock the case. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. All right, coach. Thanks so much. Good luck this weekend. All right, guys.

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So explain though, like how long you've been looking at this and wanting to accomplish this. Yes. So El Cap is probably the most iconic wall in climbing. I mean, it's one of the most striking big walls in the world and I'm from California. So I grew up looking up at El Cap and it's always represented the pinnacle of climbing to me. And so, yeah, I mean, man, I think that's a fair characterization, you know, just climbing

the wall without a rope. So you know, that's after 20 years of climbing and two years of practice, you know, so it took quite a long time to actually be able to do it. It's Yellowstone, by the way, my fault. I got my national parks. No, no, no. Yosemite. No, it is Yosemite.

Oh. Yellowstone. Sorry, Yosemite National Park. Oh, okay. Got it. I was right. Trust yourself. It was probably two weeks ago.

First of all, would you like to apologize to me for still making my hands sweat to this day? No, no. You should thank me for building character. Oh, yeah. Thank you for building my character. Yeah, helping to toughen you up, you know. Yeah, I appreciate it.

I need it. So the first time that you sat down and you watched the movie, I assume that you've seen the movie yourself. Yeah, yeah, many times now. Were there any parts that made you nervous watching it? Well, maybe not nervous, but certainly the first hour or so of the film, I find sort of challenging to watch all the scenes with my relationship with my girlfriend and my family and just, you know, the effects that free-soullowing has on my family and friends.

I mean, I find that kind of hard to watch, but the climbing, I find amazing. So I really enjoy it. I also noticed during the film, you seemed like a little uncomfortable with having the cameras around, especially when you were making the attempt. And I was wondering, what inspired you to do the movie? Because it seems like you're more into the climb, just for the climb and the personal accomplishment, but what inspired you to say, okay, you know what, let's let the cameras and then try to do something?

Yeah, yeah, that's the first question. I mean, so the co-directors, Jimmy Chin and Chai Vasarely, they had just, they approached me sort of fresh off the success of their film, Mario, which I had seen and really enjoyed and, you know, it was great. So when they approached me about working with me, you know, it was a big opportunity for me. And, and the LCAP is something that I had been dreaming about for, for maybe six years at that point, but, but sort of too afraid to actually try.

And so the, the idea of making a film project with them, it was sort of a reason, you know, a way of forcing myself to actually start putting in the work and working on this, this project that I've been dreaming about for so long, but sort of intimidated to start. I mean, it's sort of counterintuitive that, that the added pressure of the film would actually be helpful, but I thought that basically I thought that it would be, you know, I wanted a reason to start working on the thing that I wanted to do so badly. Okay. So tell me, you can tell me if this is a rude question, but I feel like it's something a

lot of people are thinking about. You're making a film and you're doing free solo climbs and the filmmakers themselves say it's a harrowing experience because you could be filming someone's death at any moment. Is there a, is there something that you guys agreed to beforehand that if there was a fatal accident that they would still air some of the things or how does that work? No, actually, we never talked about it. I mean, I basically didn't care because if I died, you know, I don't care what they do.

You're dead. I'm dead. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm totally untroubled by that. And I think that they had discussions between themselves, but, you know, I was never privy to it and thankfully it never played out.

Yeah. Yeah. It's just interesting because you, I mean, it's such a hearing, hearing, I still haven't seen the movie. It's the, the, the promo. I'm definitely going to see it. It's called free solo. You got to go check it out.

But hearing them talk about how it's so scary and it's, it's a conflict to, to watch someone free solo through a lens because if they get in trouble, what's going to happen? You're, you're filming. Like what happens if you get in trouble up on a wall by yourself? Are you just screwed? No, no, it totally depends. And actually if you watch the film, I did have an attempt on LCAP when, that I didn't complete.

He started it and got scared. I don't want to, you know, spoil the movie for you or anything, but, um, you made it. You survived. Yeah. You are alive. We're talking to you. So that is a spoiler itself. Yeah.

Yeah. I guess, I guess that's the ultimate spoiler. Yeah. But so basically I had a, I had a failed attempt on LCAP where I basically was under prepared and just, uh, and wasn't up for it. And so I climbed maybe the first 500 feet or so and then, and then started cheating and sort of cheated my way up a little ways further and then repelled back down to the ground. What does that mean?

What does cheating mean? Like and explain to people who aren't, uh, you know, enthusiasts of, of the free solo climbs, like what, how does it feel when you know that you just don't have it that day? Yeah. Yeah. So, um, so cheating is sort of complicated. Basically, um, I started using, so, so I was free climbing, which is different than so free soloing means climbing by yourself about a rope, but, but free climbing typically

just means climbing with just your hands and your feet and using a rope to protect you and you're clipping it into bolts and things as you go. And, and the distinction is between free climbing and eight climbing, artificial climbing would be when you pull on bolts and pitons and like gear to assist you upward. And so I was climbing by myself, but I got to a certain point where I got scared and then I started using the bolts to assist me, like rather than just trusting my feet on, on a really small little footholds, I started pulling on the bolts and stepping on the bolts and just sort of cheating, which, um, which I was still by myself and I still didn't have

a rope, but suddenly it made the difficulty of it quite a bit easier. Yeah. And so, you know, I cheated my way through the hardest part. And then I sort of got up to this area that had had ropes going back down and I made my way back down to safety. You said, you said some interesting right there, uh, that you got scared part of the way up and, uh, you have a very high tolerance for being afraid of things. What, what is the scaredest that you've ever been on a mountain?

Oh, that's a good question. Um, thank you. I mean, I think actually some of the, some of my scariest, some of my scariest experiences were maybe last winter on this expedition to Antarctica. Um, just because the rock was really rotten. Um, it's funny because people ask about my scariest experiences, expecting it to be some of the ropeless climbing, some of the freestilling that I've done, but really most of my scariest experiences have been with a rope on, um, because when

you have a rope in gear, you're more willing to push it into the unknown because you assume that you'll be able to find protection at some point. But, you know, if you don't, if you don't clip your rope into anything, you know, you can still be looking at a 200 foot fall, which is still a certain depth. And so, you know, basically you're more willing to push yourself into really harrowing, you know, positions when you have gear on you. That makes sense. Like the illusion of safety.

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Cause you keep thinking like, Oh, a few more moves. I'm sure I'll find some gear. Right. Right. Keep going. Yeah.

And you know, keeps going and going. I'm pretty soon, you're like 150 feet above your last piece of gear and you're like, Oh my God, I'm going to die for sure. Yeah. It's like, it's pretty scary. What would be the highest survivable fall? Oh, I don't know. Well, I mean, actually the records of pilots and things falling out of planes

from, you know, 20, 30,000 feet and surviving. Oh, so you wouldn't find that point. Yeah. Yeah. I'd probably be fine. No, no, I mean, I think that if you're falling more than 40 feet, there's a very serious chance that you could die more than 50 feet. So you took it, you took an MRI during the movie, free solo, and it's

showed that your brain doesn't register fear like the regular person. Now, do you feel that in everyday experiences? Like I'm still a little afraid of the dark. Have you just never been afraid of the dark? I'm not, I'm not very afraid of the dark, but I think that I'm afraid of danger. I mean, I'm afraid of getting killed. I'm afraid of being hurt, you know, the same as, as anybody else. I mean, I think that the real takeaway from that brain scan was just that through,

through enough practice, I sort of desensitized my amygdala, which is what they were scanning to, to certain levels of stimulus. You know, so basically because I've had so many scary climate experiences, I'm just slightly less afraid of, of average things. Interesting. Well, one time I went to the top of the Willis Tower in Chicago and I stood on that glass, that glass encasement where you can look down. It cracked, actually.

Have you ever done that? Uh, I think I have actually. Man, have you, have you been skydiving? I had a little, uh, I have been skydiving. Yeah, I have too. But so, but so skydiving is actually a good example. I mean, I found that pretty scary. I didn't, I didn't, I wasn't at all scared.

Nope. Did you do, uh, how much did you do? Uh, just once tandem. No big deal. You're strapped in. Well, that's a tandem because you got some dudes strapped to your back. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Let's not get, let's not get bogged down in the details here, Alex.

I wasn't scared. You were scared. And I think you just assumed that it was a heat that was trapped back. It was, it was, I was too heavy. Yeah. No, but, um, but I found skydiving pretty scary. I mean, it's just so fast and frantic. And, um, it's just, there's a lot going on.

There's a lot of stimulus. You know, you're like, Oh my God, I'm falling out of a plan. Yeah. Uh, you know, I mean, I think that's scary. Yeah. So I mean, watching this movie, I can't say enough. It's, it's fascinating. It, it really takes you through like every single emotion possible.

And I would rank it like at the top of any sporting achievement ever that, that has been accomplished by a human. Um, what would you be doing if mountains didn't exist, if climbing didn't exist? What other interests do you have? I don't, I mean, honestly, I'm not sure. I was a, I was studying engineering for a year before I dropped out. School to be a climber. Um, I don't know.

I have a foundation that's been supporting solar all over the world. So I mean, honestly, I might be, uh, you know, working on environmental issues, like some kind of environmental engineering or something. I don't know. I mean, it's funny because it's such a departure from, from climbing. So you mentioned solar energy. Uh, do you think that the sun is hot? Yeah.

I think it's a well-established sun. But, but how come space is cold? Ooh, that is profound. Yeah. Think about that. Think about that. So do you like, you got me there.

Do you like paper straws? Um, I don't, I don't love them, but yeah, they just haven't, yeah, they haven't gotten the technology right. You got to maybe do something like that. Yeah, I feel like it's not quite dialed. Yeah. Okay. We'll get there.

All right. You, maybe use, you know, you did Al Capitan. Maybe the next biggest accomplishment is figure out a way to make us a paper straw that doesn't fall apart after two sips. I mean, that, that would, that would potentially have a bigger impact in the world. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so I, the other question that I had, you know, reading all about you, you,

you mentioned your family, you mentioned your girlfriend. Is there going to be a point where you're like, I'm done climbing because it seems like guys like you are wired a certain way where, and I think there was a quote in, in the promo, like, you know, you need climbing to live and like, why would you take away something that makes you so happy? So do you ever see yourself being like, all right, you know what, I'm going to walk away and not, uh, you know, fall off the side of a mountain and then you probably would actually end up getting like hit by a bus or something.

Cause that's just cruel. But like, do you ever see an end in sight? Um, kind of. I mean, so I, I can't really, I'm sure I'll be climbing my whole life. I managed love climbing, but climbing takes many forms. And, you know, I don't know if I'll always be free-srolling at a high level. In fact, I mean, I doubt I'll be free-srolling at a high level my whole life. Um, just because, you know, I mean, free-srolling is just something that

requires a major inspiration and passion for it. I mean, I just don't know if I'll find other objectives that I care about the way I cared about El Cap, you know, so, you know, I mean, if I went the rest of my life without free-srolling anything else at a high level, I'm sure I could still lead a happy life. You ever going to do it again? You're going to do El Cap again? Well, I mean, I can't really see why I would.

I mean, if, okay, okay, I'll give you a scenario. Someone else does it and they do it faster. And that'd be fine. I don't care about the speed that much. Okay. Um, shit. No, it's funny. Somebody, uh, somebody asked me if, uh, if someone offered to donate half a

billion dollars to my foundation, uh, in order to watch me through a telescope, just watch me free solo cap. I would for sure do it. That's, that's like a really sick, like feel like some rich dude. Jerry Jones. Yeah. Yeah. Very voyeuristic, very weird, um, like eyes wide shut shit, but okay.

A lot of billionaires are into that sort of thing. Well, I'm, I'm, I'm into it though. You know, I like those weird, rich, sick dudes. We got a lot of listeners like that. Yeah, I like that. Um, well, no, but basically my point though is just that, um, that I really did enjoy the experience of doing it, but it takes kind of a lot of effort to, to feel comfortable.

And so if I was properly incentivized, I mean, I could certainly go through the process again and feel comfortable at there. Basically it just takes a lot of time and work and there's no real point in repeating something that I've already done. Unless, unless it's worth it, you know? Yeah. How much time and what is the reason for it? How much time did it really take to, to, obviously you were climbing all your

life, but like from the moment you said, I'm going to do this to the moment you did it, how, what, what was that time that you put in? I mean, when you see the film, it's basically the two years that we were filming together, um, though I had a few setbacks along the way. I mean, I think that if we're going to try to do it again, I could probably be ready in, in six months or so. Um, but that's, you know, that's a lot of effort though. Yeah.

Cause you, you've had like all the moves planned out. You like wrote down what you do and basically every part of the mountain, is that fair? You have like every step map. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I still have all my journals.

So I, and, and obviously, I mean, I still remember exactly how to do most of the climb. That's like deeply ingrained within me now. Right. That's probably pretty smart to plan it out and not just be like, Hey, fuck that, I'm going to go climb this mountain. Yeah. Um, when you got to the top, did you feel relief or did you feel joy?

Uh, mostly joy. I mean, a little bit of relief for sure, but not even just relief, like, oh, I'm so glad I survived or I'm glad I made it, but also just relief that I was glad that I had sort of seen through this whole project while I was, you know, I don't want to say while I was young enough to do it, but, but that is kind of true. You know, I'm glad to have done this big dream of mine and not just like, let it slip away. Yeah.

Was there anything it would be? Yeah. Go ahead. Sorry. Well, I just, I'd had so many years of dreaming about El Cap and not actually putting any work and not actually doing it. And so I, you know, I sort of had this fear that, that one day I'd be 45 and think, man, maybe I should have actually tried to do El Cap at some point.

Yeah, I'm, I'm okay with having that, with having that thought when I'm 45. Like, oh man, I, you know, I, and I'll tell people I could have done it too. Yeah. Well, that's, you know, that's fair. Um, did you, was there like a moment? Well, like maybe 20, 30 feet left that you were like, Oh, wow, I'm actually going to do this. This is incredible.

No, actually the last five or 600 feet kind of felt that way. Oh, wow. Just because you get through sort of all the hardest climbing and then the last 500 feet or so are fairly secure style, like, uh, like a feel safe, even though it's still fairly difficult, but it just doesn't, it's not slippery in the same way, like it feels comfortable. And so I kind of charged to the stomach. So I was like, oh, I'm doing it.

I feel amazing. This is, this is great. Uh, one of my favorite parts of the movie was how you, you lived out of a van for a long period of time before you finally kind of gave in and bought a house. We're both van guys, me and big cat are big guys. We've got our van. Right. It's named Vanny Woodhead.

Did you name your van? I've never named a van and I've never been into it, but, but I've lived out of a van for I think 12 years and that's pretty, pretty legit. Where do you, where do you shit in the woods or in bathrooms? Okay. Oh, that's a big gap brings up a good point. What happens if you're halfway up the mountain and you got to go? I mean, it happens.

Uh, ideally you pack it out somehow just because otherwise there's too much poop on the wall, but, um, but when, when disaster strikes, you just have to, you know, find a way to bury it or dispose of it or make sure that you poop somewhere that people aren't going to be climbing. That's very considerate. Yeah, that's a very considerate. So there's a, there's a lot of Oscar buzz already around it. Did you ever think that you would win an Oscar?

I, well, actually, I think that even if the film, I, I can't win an Oscar because the subject doesn't really matter. I don't think, I think it's only the director and producer. So, so either way it has nothing to do with me, but no, I definitely never thought that, that anything I would ever do would even be remotely considered in the film world. It'd be pretty messed up if they won an Oscar though, and they didn't at least invite you on the stage.

I think they're disallowed. I think they're not allowed to, if they are, you should go topless and with a carabiner and just your speech should just be like belay on, on play. Well, no, but that's, that defeats the point of free soloing. Oh yeah. There's no belaying if it's for a free solo movie. Big Cat doesn't get the spiritual part of it. That's literally the only thing I know about climbing, belay on, on belay.

Well, that's the only thing you don't need to know for free soloing. Damn it. All right. I have one last question for you and everyone again, check it out. Free solo. I'm going to watch this movie for sure. How many pull-ups can you do? Oh, I don't know.

Maybe, maybe 35. That's pretty good. Yeah, that's a lot of points. I mean, it's, it's a fair amount, but it's not a ton. I mean, you don't have to be able to do that many pull-ups to climb because climbing is more about your footwork and technique and finger strength and, you know, it's not just brute strength. Oh, okay.

That brings up a, all right. So follow-up question. Do you, what do you do when you get cramps in your hands and your feet? So imagine that happens, right? Uh, not really. Um, you get cramps in your feet a little bit because climbing shoes are super tight and so like throughout the climb of LCAP. I would stop in certain places and pop my shoes on and off to make sure that my

feet didn't go numb. Um, but, um, but no, I mean, you know, that's what all the preparation is for us to make sure, you know, like a marathon runner, like an elite marathon runner doesn't just get cramps partway through and stop. You know, I mean, that's, that's what they're trained for. That's very true. My last question, I want to know if you do sit down and watch those, uh, like Russian teenagers climbing bridges and buildings and stuff.

And if so, do you think that they're actually better climbers than you are? I have seen some of that and I, well, I mean, they're, I don't want to disparage them too much, but, uh, but I think it's slightly stupid. Okay. All right. Well, that's the perfect selfie. Um, all right, Alex, thank you so much. If you ever come to New York, please, uh, you know, come, come by the office.

We'd love to, uh, talk to you in person and maybe watch you climb the empire. You start climbing buildings like that. Remember that spider-man guy that went viral or the raccoon? Yeah. The, the, the, in Minneapolis, you start just climbing random buildings in the middle of the day. Yeah. I'll consider it as long as I don't get arrested.

I mean, at least the raccoon didn't, didn't get arrested. True. It didn't land in a sand pit and scurried away. Yeah. I can't promise you wouldn't get arrested, but I can promise you'd go viral. Oh, yeah. That's, that's as good as $500 million. Yeah.

That's maybe a meme. I don't, I don't think it is. If you guys promise to post bail, then I'll consider it. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. This is a difference. You're a man of the nature in the woods.

We're, we're men of the internet. So I, I agree to disagree. Oh, fair enough. Fair enough. All right, man. Well, thanks for, thanks for coming on. So go see Free Solo. It's in theaters.

Is it nationwide right now, or is it just select theaters? Yeah. I don't really know the difference. Yeah. It's in cities all over the country right now. Okay. Go see it and, and bring like extra napkins and paper towels to wipe off your poems because you're going to sweat a lot watching it.

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First up we have a Sabre Metrix. What was the Sabre Metrix PFT. The Sabre Metrix. Also this is kind of a nerd alert. Okay. For Roquan Smith. Future Super Bowl winning linebacker this year of the Chicago Bears facts.

They asked. At least the buy. They asked him about how his speed helps him hit hard. And he said force equals mass times acceleration. Smart guy. So he remembers his physics. Smart guy. He's fast.

He is fast. Very fast. If you're fast you hit hard. Very fast. I love Roquan Smith because I love saying the name Roquan. You know what he is? He's a thumper. He is.

He's downhill thumper. He's not fully a thumper. He's more of a speed violence. Speed and violence. He's violence. Violence. That equals. Fast violence.

That equals force right. Yeah. But I love him. So. Is that one of the laws of physics? Which one is that? FMA. Fuck.

Mary. Assault. Yeah. That's what he plays. Yes. So it's a kinder gentler version. He's just going to get at you. Newton's first law.

Fast. Is when Von Miller is diving at you make a business decision. Yeah. I actually fully buy in on like the Al Davis. Let's just get all the fastest guys. Yeah. Because then at least even if your team sucks in the pre-game they can be like hey watch out for team speed.

Listen Nike Instagram posts have taught me a couple things about speed. One is you can't teach it. And the other is speed kills. Yes. So I fully buy in. And Robin's racing. Robin is racing.

Get all the fast guys that you can. It's work for the Raiders. Yes. You can't doubt their track record of success. No. All right. Next up we have our long national nightmare is over. So this is for Todd Haley and Snoop Dogg who have apparently

buried the hatchet. Snoop Dogg showed up to the Cleveland Browns facility. They hung out. And if you remember Snoop Dogg was posting Instagram videos last year bashing Todd Haley then offensive coordinator of the Pittsburgh Steelers which is one of Snoop Dogg's 16 favorite NFL teams. Yeah.

And so they're they're good. He gets a pass on that. Right. Yeah. Like Drake is the guy that we all point at and we're like look at this front runner but Snoop Dogg has 16 teams. Yes. But it's it's because like Snoop Dogg is the one that would

actually kill you. Right. And also he's just cool. Right. Yeah. If I'll put it this way when Somalia is fucking up and Russia is fucking up with human rights abuses we'll send troops to Somalia but we won't send Russia because they got

an A bomb. Right. And that's why we steer clear of Snoop Dogg. Yeah. Right. So Snoop Dogg I would love to have sat and watched that conversation because my guess is it started with a couple laughs.

Ha ha ha remember ha ha and then absolutely nothing to talk about because we saw Todd Haley in Hard Knocks. Not a fan of rap. Let's just say that. Not a fan of rap. I hope he got to talk to Bob Wiley. Yeah. I do too.

That would have been awesome. That would have been. Listen I would imagine. This is my hard knock should run all season long. I'm thinking about right now if Snoop Dogg was high enough which he probably was he's probably still the facility just watching Bob Wiley say hi. Well he's probably yeah he's either watching for it's like

just getting stuck in a fish song. How long do you think Snoop Dogg spent watching that Salomo video of Baker Mayfield throwing that one pass. Yeah. It's probably a long time. Yes. Just rewinding that shit. He's just stuck.

By the way it's the least surprising news ever that Todd Haley had beef with somebody else. Yeah. I feel like he has beef with everybody. He's walking beef. He's got beef with everyone that he's that he's not currently having sex with. Right.

And even sometimes that doesn't really do it. I'd say he's definitely got beef with. Probably yeah like there's for sure beef. The Haley household does not go a day without beef. No. We next up have King State Kings and it is Big Ben. Our our now our guy in terms of you know funny quarterbacks like because Eli like we said he's retired and Big Ben is all

we have left into in that department and he pulled the best Big Ben move the most classic Big Ben move ever on Tuesday. He went on his radio show and he said his elbow altered his he hurt his elbow and it has altered his throwing mechanics and he was forcing his throws to sail on him. Then on Wednesday when the reporters asked him about it he said I'm actually fine.

I'm good. He's just forgetful. Okay. Give him a break. I get there's nothing better than Big Ben just I've never seen anything like it. He literally makes up a different injury every single week. I love how he said that he had he had an elbow injury that

was accidentally making him throw the ball too hard. Yeah. He's like he's like rookie of the year. Yeah. Exactly. He watched rookie of the year. He's like I have that. Yeah.

That's me. Yeah. I watched this movie. I have that. He's he is a dog who like fakes a limp and like because he doesn't want to go on a walk. Yeah. My dog did that.

I think I told that story that time. Yeah. Dubio RIP. That's big. That's Big Ben. Yeah. That is him. He's also the kid who fakes an injury in like one leg and

then shows up to practice the next day and limping on the other side. What is it? And he goes like I thought your other leg. He's like oh yeah. Yeah. You know that went away. Oh I it's because I was favoring this one and I strengthened

it too much. So now it hurts. Yeah. It's a compensation injury. But Big Ben. Oh my god. Oh another break. To take one have another.

Do it again. What's up Hank. Nope. I'm going to let you guys guess. It's a Giants related. Odell Beckham shot Pat Shermer. Nope. But it's about OBJ.

He had another sideline meltdown. Oh. So he attacked a concussion tent. He attacked. He he head butted. I don't know what it is. But he head butted something on the sidelines and then just has been screaming.

Jesus Christ. He had but it started punching like an anatomy. That's his thing. He just loves to fight things that can't fight back. He just he hates nouns. It's insane. He's this Giants season is. I mean it's time to ask if Pat Shermer's lost a locker room.

Yeah. He's I'm watching this. Oh no. That's the video of him going off. Okay. Yeah. Let's see. Oh you know what he hit?

He hit the big heater. Oh that's a bad move. Now everybody's going to be cold. He head butted the big heater. Jesus Christ Odell. All right. Our last one before we get to our grab bag. We have a new one.

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So I noticed this trend a couple of weeks ago where people will get mad at me on Twitter and be like how did you not comment it on. Fill in the blank. So for instance the brewers beat the Rockies and they're like how have you not commented on the brewers beating the Rockies. So I'll just reply here's my comment.

So the Kanye went to the White House talked with Donald Trump and it was a whole thing. And here's our comment. He did it yet. That is a thing that he did. So that's our comment. Yeah. That was it was a thing.

Big news. Hank's looking confused. Hank would you like to comment. How come you have a comment. Why don't you comment it. Stick to sports. OK. This is actually just a play we're going to put in

the synopsis and be like hot take on President Trump and Kanye's meeting. And then they'll get to this point in the podcast and then like these guys didn't say anything. Actually you know what let's filibuster real quick. Quick baseball preview of the ALCS and LCS picks. Hank do you think are you worried at all about the Red Sox against the Astros.

The Astros are wagon. I think it's going to go seven games with the Red Sox going to win. OK. I think I think it's going to be Brewers and the Stros. I think it's going to be a repeat Dodgers Stros. I think the Dodgers are going to Rich Hills going to do something.

But playoff Kershaw. Playoff Kershaw. Is David Price really going to start game two. Looks like it. Because that might outrate Sunday night football. Like if David Price starts to have a meltdown. Yeah. He doesn't have the clutch gene.

That David Price. He's due. But and playoff David Price. The other side he's doing. David Price makes a fair point. He statistically do. When is he 0 for 11. 10.

0 for 10. 0 and 10. Well if you listen to this on Tuesday then I'll be right. Kershaw. Price. Now I need that to happen in the World Series. Could you imagine.

Yep. Oh my God. It's. That game is going to take 14 hours. It's going to be incredible. All right. Let's finish up. We got Hank's grab bag.

Freyay. Let's do it. Do you see a lot of woes in this grab bag. But whoa. If people are allergic to cats and dogs. Does that mean that cats and dogs can be allergic to people. All right.

Whoa. Oh. Maybe that's why cats are such assholes all the time. They're all allergic to humans. Whoa. Yeah. So crazy cat ladies are actually. Well yeah.

We're tree animals. We have souls. Yeah. And they're allergic to souls. Yeah. Yeah. Much like ginger. Don't.

Don't cats steal baby's souls when they're asleep. Yes. If they sneeze. No. If a baby sneezes a cat will steal its soul. Yeah. That's actually a truth. Mm hmm.

It takes its breath. Yeah. Mm hmm. Because we're also allergic to them. Yeah. Fuck cats. Yeah. I'm on the record.

Fuck cats. I mean yeah. Who. Who owns cats. They never die. They really don't. They don't. They have nine lives.

Yeah. They don't. A pothead surfer wannabe in fat Robert Downey Jr. He was awful reasoning to validate terrible opinions. If you sat in a room with these guys for an hour. You would hear just as many smart things said by their goldfish as you would the hosts. Okay.

Well you know what. Definitely get better. Larry's five and oh. Yeah. He's five and oh on his Sunday picks. So yes. He's he's an anomaly of a fish. Yeah.

He's smart. We should all be as lucky as to be as smart as Larry. Yeah. That was a that was a terrible roast. Larry's don't bring Larry into the roast. Am I really a wannabe surfer. Yeah. Have you seen your little bit.

Your hair. All right. No I haven't Hank. Yeah. You know a little bit. Yeah. Explain to Hank. What is the thick and thin in the saying

through thick and thin. Mmm thick is like if if you know you get a little junk in the trunk and then thin is if you get too skinny. So through thick and thin. So it's like I promise to love you even if you really got that booty going or if you're some Becky with no butt. Yeah.

I bind that. I buy everything that's said right there. How does an island flood. Shouldn't the ocean become more shallow as a storm picks up the water. How does an island flood. What type of island are we talking about. Well so the ocean is pretty big.

So parts of it can be more shallow than others. But an island floods during a storm even though the storm is picking up water. That's because of waves. It's because of waves. Yeah waves. So waves are bigger than they're taller than the rest. That was like a trick dumb question.

Where it's like he had me for a second. They're like wait but waves. People forget about waves. Yeah. As a surfer I can tell you all about it. Waves waves can be a big thing. Waves can get gnarly man. Like they can.

Yeah. If you don't shred it right. Yeah. If you don't tube. If you don't tube. Yeah. If you pit. You're in trouble.

Some boys especially Liam explain it to Hank. Really. Whoa. Who is PFT's favorite MLB team. The Reds. Yeah. Big Reds fan. Reds.

No I like whoever's playing the Cubs. That's actually not true. I rude for Big Cat this year. Not really. I had money on him. You wanted me to die. Slow. Yeah I wanted you to die later.

I like the Nationals. Yeah. I like them. Reds and Nationals. They still. They didn't lose a playoff game this year. Yeah. And even more husky John Belushi and Kid Rock

team up to tackle the world of sports but mostly just porn conspiracy theories and bad advice. They are accompanied by their pet cow that moves better than he reads. But keep the other two old fucks up to date on the latest trends making him somewhat useful. Hold on. We do one fucking riff about Fat Guy's bellies

in POV porn and now we're a porn podcast. I feel like that's boxing us in a little bit. Yeah you know what I thought it was actually pretty good advice that we gave to the porn community. Yeah. Yeah. Tighten up those hats. They should be listening to us.

Yeah exactly. Dude dogs lick our skin when we get home because they know there are bones in there. That guy is so fucking high right now. That's very woke. Oh my god. That's the highest man ever. That's amazing.

Uh huh. I like it. Yeah. Yeah I think I try to get to the bone. I think it's got to be true. Yeah it's got to be true. Last one or two more. True triple B's incite controversy in the sports media world

by giving back to the community by teaching their producer common English. That was mean. Yeah that was very mean. That was very mean. We don't say the triple B word. That hurt. We would never say that.

We don't. You don't call us triple B's. We call Kevin Durant triple B. All right last one. How does a master key work? It opens every door in the building yet other keys can only open certain doors. Wait what?

Master key fits everything. Yeah. Yeah it's like how? I don't know. How does a one size fit all hat fit everybody? All right that's our show. Love you guys. I have no answer for that.

I thought but I. Oh I know. What? So they design all the locks around this one key and then they design specific keys to fit each lock so like one won't work on every other lock. So when they first make the lock they make it so that the master key can fit it.

Okay. That's how they design it. That's got one lock. One lock. So but then they add slight changes to every other lock. But then wouldn't that fuck up the master key? No because there's a sweet spot that the master key still hits.

It can sweep. You guys don't you guys know about rods? You don't know about. No I mean I know. I know what a key you know. You guys don't know about spy craft? That's fine. Yeah.

That's kind of my wheelhouse. Yeah. Oh there's one more. How does hardware work? Ah. Wings. You're a guy. You get it.

You get a little older. Remember little quick story time. Remember when our young son Hank got his first bout of heartburn? I was so proud. Yeah. It was so much fun. You were like what 23 at the time. You were in Vegas.

You're like hey I think I got a hip hop. Hip hops. I think I think I got heartburn last night. I felt like I was having a heart attack. Mm-hmm. And we're like. Son. We pinned it.

We put a pin on them and we're like you've made it. Yeah you are now a man. Yeah. It's like a little daughter having a purple heart. Very first period. You're purple heart of wings. Wing eating and whiskey drinking. Mm-hmm.

You did it. And then I remember the advice I gave you. I said that's that you had your first heartburn. But it's not real until you puke a little in your own mouth while you're sleeping. Mm-hmm. Then it's real. Then that's how you know.

Then your combat. You are true man. Yes. Exactly. Yeah. So now Hank pre-tombs. Just alongside. Just like his old man.

Toms, toms, toms. Mm-hmm. All right. That is our show. Love you guys. I'm talking away. Now I don't know what I'm about to say. I'll say it anyway.

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