Pardon My Take - Coach Jon Gruden In Studio, Week 16 Picks And Preview, Chargers Big Win, The Jets Are In Disarray Again + Fyre Fest Of The Week

Episode Date: December 20, 2024

We had a great Thursday Night Football game to kickoff the weekend and the Chargers are back as well as the Bengals new life (00:00:00-00:09:37). We talk a little College Football before the first round (00:09:37-00:16:34). Week 16 picks and preview for every Game Saturday/Sunday and the Jets have a new story that is even more Jets than anyone could've ever imagined (00:16:34-01:27:41). Picks and Fantasy Fuccbois (01:27:41-01:36:59). Coach Gruden joins the show to talk some ball, who's going to win MVP, whats driving him nuts in the league right now and more (01:36:59-02:18:47). We finish with fyre fest of the week (02:18:47-02:42:53).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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The Chargers come back Spurned on by the first free kick in what 46 years in the NFL two pivotal moments Yeah, the free kick before halftime rarely rarely used free kick Yep If there's a penalty and there's zero seconds left on the clock you can do an untimed down or you can just do a place Kick and I don't know why why more kickers don't take like the the 15 step run up yeah try to boot at 75 yards like it's a kickoff but it was the first one that's been made I think the Chargers had the last one before this in 79 48 years ago wow is how long ago it was so there was that and then the other

pivotal moment yeah the other pivotal moment Justin Herbert sliding and the personal foul call that pretty much changed the listen I think the Chargers were running like their offense and what they were doing in the second half was phenomenal but that was a pivotal moment in the game that if you're Broncos fan you have a right to be upset yeah because that went from a possible field goal for the Chargers to a first and goal they scored they ended up ripping off I think 21 unanswered points in the second half from a possible field goal for the Chargers to a first and goal they scored. They ended up ripping off, I think 21 unanswered points in the second half. Justin Herbert, that touchdown

pass that he threw as he was falling down. That's the guy. That is the guy when people are like, Oh, Justin Herbert's only, you know, social media quarterback. I don't even know what the criticism of Justin Herbert is anymore because it never made sense to me. That's the guy. I think now the criticism of Justin Herbert is that people were angry to the phrasing and the narrative that he was a social media quarterback. Yeah. Then there was backlash to that. And then when he didn't win, people then did the backlash to those

people that did the backlash. He's got one of the playoff game. That's where we're at today. But right now, this is big is big for for two teams Yeah night. Yeah, the Chargers increased their odds of making the playoffs Hank They will make the playoffs if they can get wins I believe by the Colts or excuse me the Colts have to lose this weekend They have to lose to the Titans and then they need the Dolphins to lose the 49ers this weekend and they click and they would

Clinch yes weekend and it was also big for our Cincinnati Bengals yes the zombie Bengals they are not dead so this was so massive for the Bengals because the Bengals play the Broncos next week if the Bengals win on Sunday against the Browns it will get to that preview it's pretty simple but if the Bengals win against the Browns on Sunday, they'll be playing the Broncos next week to potentially get to eight and eight. And then if they win week 18 and the Broncos lose, they would be in over the Broncos. Now the big part of this though, is the Bengals need the Chiefs to lose one of the next two games. And they're tough

games. They're tough games. But if the Chiefs win their next two games, they will have clinched the one seed, because they're two games up right now on the Bills, and the Bills obviously have the head-to-head tiebreaker. So the only way that, you need the Chiefs to play in that game in week 18, and not rest starters, but the Bengals have a lot more life

than they did 12 hours ago. It's crazy, and obviously week 18 would be against the Steelers. That could be a tough game for them. I'm guessing the Steelers would still have something to play for, whether it's seeding or whatever. But yeah, and don't get me wrong, the Bengals don't have any easy wins regardless of their play. They've proven that they can lose to anybody in heartbreaking fashion.

But this schedule, it's not like the easiest schedule But it does shake out about as good as you can hope for the Bengals right now You know what it was going into this game the Bengals needed either the Chargers or the Broncos to lose out That was the only way they were gonna get in it was very much preferred for it to be the Broncos to lose this game Because they play the Broncos. Yeah, so they control a piece of their own destiny to lose this game because they play the Broncos. Yep. So they control a piece of their own destiny. We said the 5% that's a that's a wrong number.

Yeah. It's a fat 5%. What is that now? Eight. 12. 12? 12. 12 if they like they have to win out basically.

If they win this weekend it's 12. 12. Yeah. Yeah they have to win out and again they need the Chiefs to lose one of these two games but I put it at 19% I need this because we it feels like we haven't we it feels like one through six Or yeah one through six one through five in both NFC and AFC have been set for a month and a half Yeah, we need a little drama We need a little something getting us juiced up for week 18 so that we have some games that are like, you know

Whatever that Sunday night game is gonna be week 18 to get us ready to go so I yeah, I mean this was and I mean the Broncos I think the biggest issue for the Broncos was their defense just Ran out of gas in the second half. Yeah, the Chargers defense at the start was bad. They were getting gashed. Yeah, dude, just run all over and then it just flipped. It flipped after the free dick. Yeah, the free dick. The free dick flipped the whole thing.

But yeah, it was, it was the Broncos defense has been elite all year. And then in the second half, Justin Herbert went nuclear and you now, it's just, it's hard to win in this league PFT. Week to week, it's hard to win in this league, PFT. Week to week, it's hard to win in this league. Holy shit, what did you just pull up? I don't know, Memes is trying to tell me something. He's just kind of spreading his head.

Like half the time he's back here, he's telling me to look things up that just don't make any sense. But there's a win by win calculator for the playoffs. I was trying to find that for the Bengals. It's like, if they win versus Browns, it's 12% but if they win versus Broncos it could be 65% got it every different website has their own metrics that go into it there they don't match when they say that the Bengals are like 14 one will say they're at 13 I apologize the math the math they don't control their own destiny, but they they They basically do Yeah, they basically do they basically do because I mean if they win and then

Next week is the biggest game ever because it's between two of them ever created They ever created and then and then week 18 anything can happen anything can I'll say that anything can happen? so and Max our chargers Our charger live Need the Steelers to the Chargers getting the sixth seed and the Steelers getting the three is where you have a real chance Because I don't think the Chargers the Chargers Listen, I thought they were cooked after that first quarter and a half

They get off the mat their defense is still like taking a big step back in the last, I don't know, whatever it's been six weeks. But if they can just get into that dance and have one matchup that you know, I think they could beat the Steelers. I don't know if they could beat the Ravens. I don't the death sentence is the seven seed it feels like but I'll tell you what, the Buffalo Bills, if they get the two seed, the last team they want to see is the Cincinnati Bengals. Yeah.

That's the, like you don't, cause that's, the Bengals, the crazy thing about the Bengals is they can't stop anyone, but if you get in a shootout with the Bengals, like anything can happen. Their season has made no sense. This would just continue that trend and make it make even less sense.

Yeah. Chargers look good. Chargers fought back well. Oh. I'll admit that. Yeah. I still don't. They look like a good team in the second half.

A physical team. Yeah, and J.K. Dobbins should be back maybe next week, which that has been the big issue is that their run game has not looked good. I mean, even tonight, if you take out Gus Edwards 43 yard run He was running and he ran like 13 times for 20 yards Yeah

So they still have not been able to jk Dobbins on track to return for my our next week against the Patriots Yeah, this is fun. I love football. Do you guys want to do just real quick any any any game you love in college football? I know we talked about on Sunday or sorry Wednesday, but we do have the college football playoff. I'm so excited for Indiana Notre Dame That's the one I'm excited for so excited for that game. It's a JMU verse Notre Dame Yeah, can't wait. I and I am actually I mean like I'm listen. I'm excited for all the games I'm I think I'm equally as excited to see Tennessee Ohio State just because I Just don't like what is Ohio State right now

I feel like we'll know within the first five minutes and I'm I'm dying to find out like Where their heads at it's also just that that game is guaranteed great takes after no matter what correct because Ohio State and Tennessee fans like one way or the other Nuclear reaction. Yes, they're so mad at each other already, too It feels like they're already the fans already playing the game. I also I'm starting to fall in love with possibly betting a large amount on Penn State on Saturday because like all the talk about Indiana or game all the talk about Tennessee Ohio State this is this could be this couldn't be less of a big game at all for Penn State Everyone loves Penn. This is where James Franklin shines though 11 a.m.

or noon Eastern, but that like no one's talking about Penn State SMU this is basically this is Penn State bringing in a Mac team counterpoint it is big noon Saturday yeah I'm actually that might be a SMU's I love SMU all year and a white out they made it a big game by making it a white out and I'm saying a lot of this tongue-in-cheek because the takes if we want to talk about takes. Yep Penn State lost that game the takes But it'll get drowned Yeah, well, yes, right if Ohio State loses the takes will get drowned the yes

But but Penn State losing SMU would be take City take City USA What do you got max? I thought we were getting a snow game for a second But it'll be a high of 27 at State College on Saturday. It's gonna be cold. It's gonna be cold. For the fellas from Dallas. From Dallas, the boys from the Atlantic Coast Conference. We played in the cold.

Man, we was cold. We was cold. So what do you got? Saturday. Which game? Oh, just Friday. Just winners. All right. All right. So I honestly think that Notre Dame is probably going to win,

but I really want Indiana to win. Yeah. I got Penn State. Yeah. I got Texas. I got Tennessee. I got I think the same. I had Texas. Texas. I have Texas circled as my possibly blowout.out 12 5 ups that happens every year. That's true Hank you had a tweet Earlier this week. This is a good segment where you hey Hank had a tweet. Yeah

Where you said? The Winston Churchill documentary. No, that wasn't it. Are you watching one? Yeah, give it to us real quick Documentary no that wasn't it. Are you watching one? Yeah, give it to us real quick 60-second that's super interesting really really interesting guy great war documentary on Netflix was a good guy He yeah, yeah cared about good was he a fat guy Loved to drink loved to smoke started every day with a drink in a smoke. Yeah loved war Yeah, but for the good for the good guys of the cigar and a side of war stood stood stood on business. That's right. Big time get goddamn right. God kind of cocked. Yeah, still business. USA and I saw on I saw a stat today. It was like a survey that was

was done of I think European people and it said which country do you give the most responsibility to for winning World War Two and number one I think was England number two was the United States number three was I think France that was tied with the USSR with Russia yeah it's crazy yeah sorry yeah no, that's good. I like that. No, you said you've been on a heater and your brain says that one of these teams is going to have an upset this weekend. You just got to figure out which one. So have you figured out which one?

Indiana and Clemson are the two horses I'm riding. Okay. I think the weather, I think the big, I think the weather, it's big Big Ten weather It's tough to go against Penn State and Ohio State. Okay, I think Indiana's got a shot and I think Clemson has a real shot Because Indiana's Big Ten Notre Dame's not what do you like about Clemson championship coach championship DNA? Mm-hmm, Texas kind of chokers. Mm-hmm Mm-hmm a lot of hype Clemson's been I, they've not been good against anyone good. Championship DNA though. It's, again, I don't know a lot about culture football, but it's like, you do not agree that there's gonna be, they're all big fans. No, you're right. I, and this is why- There's gonna be at least one I'm gonna bet on too, unless Indiana wins and I might not.

Then it's like the upset already happened. Yeah. We gotta start thinking about it in like March Madness terms of like the team that got hot to win and get in and then they had the win and get in. That's definitely not how we have to start thinking about it. No, no, no, no. That's a good point, like they came out of nowhere, won their conference championship tournament.

Won the whole thing, only way that they were gonna be able to get in. Yep. And then they play the team that lost a heartbreaker. Stole a bid from a blue blood in. Yep. And then they play the team that lost a heartbreaker. Stole a bid from a blue blood in Alabama. Yeah. Got left off the bubble.

But Texas goes down early, like the pressure, like they're going to, they might collapse. Yeah, it's true. Okay. We got anything else? Congratulations to the 2024 Lomé Trophy Award winner. It's Tyler Crowe from Boise State. Yeah. That huge, well, well-deserving award going to Tyler Crowe. I'm happy Boise State got some hardware.

Yeah. I mean, some would say, I heard some people online saying Ashton Gentry system running back. Not us. Not us. People are also accusing you of trolling and the low-maneuver committee of trolling. No. No.

He blocked for the best running back in college football. And I don't think they realized the committee. Yeah, the committee is made up of mostly fullbacks, like the best fullbacks of all time on the committee. Right. And then we have Hank and Tom Frinelli, Liam Blutman, you got your Brandon Walkers, you got your Big Cat and PFTs,

but it's 90% full backs that watch and care. Yeah, he literally blocked for Ash and Jenny having a season we've never seen before. So maybe the best college football season of all time. He deserved it. So he's got a great mullet. Yeah, fantastic. And we're gonna get to watch him in the playoffs. Yeah.

So yeah, low man award winner in the playoff. I love that representation for all you youngsters at home. Yeah, okay Let's kick it to ourselves. You got weekend preview for week 16 Then we have coach John Gruden in studio and then fire fest the week Okay, before we get to our weekend preview, we're presented by game time Game time is focused on togetherness this holiday season when you bring people together at live events the experience is that much better and it's the perfect gift. You know how much we

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We got Saturday football, which was news to Hank Saturday football They're doing Saturday football so that they can get the teams that are playing on Christmas an extra day rest. Correct. Which is very nice of Roger Goodell. Three games in 11 days. Thank you, sir. Is insane.

Okay, let's start with it. Saturday football, Texans at Chiefs. Chiefs minus three and a half, over under 42 and a half. All lines on DraftKings Sportsbook. Is Patrick Holmes the new Big Ben? He just bounced back. He's not even on the injury report anymore now. I don't know kind of predicted We said that he has the ability to just not be injured Yeah, I don't know if he's the full new Big Ben because he doesn't milk the injuries. He just gets

Horrifically injured in the moment. We all say, Oh my God, the season's over. This sucks. No more Patrick Mahomes. And then he just is fully fine. The next play his tendons, they bend in a weird way and then just snap back into place. Longevity. It's a serious thing. He's, I mean, it's pretty insane that he was full participant in practice. People were thinking the high ankle sprain, uh, either that, or they just have the greatest training staff of all time. They could. Which absolutely could be the case. Absolutely could be the case. But Chiefs at Texans, I hate this Texans team. I'm not going to lie.

They're tough to watch. Well, they haven't beaten a team that's over 500 yet. Yeah. So they're 0 and 2. To their credit, they haven't played a lot of teams that are over 500. Yeah. They've only played two. Yeah.

But yeah, they don't seem like the same Tex that are over 500. Yeah. I've only played two. Yeah. Um, but yeah, they, uh, they don't seem like the same Texans from last year. Yeah. So even last week in their win, they had less than 200 yards against the dolphins. Remember I said, I was like, I feel like Joe Mixon is boom or bust. Well, I looked back at it and uh, so Kansas city has the seventh ranked rush defense according to DVO a, uh, Joe Mixon rushing. So last week he only had 23 yards which is

you'd think that you'd have more yards because the Dolphins have the 20th ranked rush defense but he had 101 yards the week before against the Jaguars. That's the 21st ranked rush defense. He had 22 yards the week before that so boom bust against the Titans ninth ranked DVO a rush defense, then 109 yards boom again against the Cowboys, 28 ranked, uh, rush defense, and then 46 yards bust against the lions with the 11th ranked defense. So anytime he's had to play a top 12 rush defense, and again, the, the, the chiefs are seventh, he has been bust. And if the Texans can't run the ball

I really don't like this offense. Yeah, it's probably fair to say though that he had an injury in the first half last week Yeah, that's right. Yes, so that was the anomaly But the other ones are very you can very much say like oh he plays a rush defense is 20th or worst He's gonna have over a hundred yards. Oh, he plays one that's tenth or better. better he's gonna have under 30 yards yeah the other Texans defense is making I was about to say they're making threats they're actually pointedly not making threats yes Patrick Mahomes yes you see what Tim Settle said yeah he said Mahomes better make a good decision I ain't making no threats I'm making promises hmm promises me that was just him playing or not just saying he make a

he better make a good decision Yeah on whether or not he can play whether or not he's mobile enough to scramble Carson Wentz Also said that he's preparing as if he were the starter. Please don't good. Yeah Carson I mean I get good job saying the right thing to the press I guess I would imagine how that went is Andy Reid probably sat Carson Wentz down Andy Reid was like hey Patrick's actually totally fine. It's not even an injury. He's full participant. So thank you for, you know, spot starting

last week or coming into the game, but we're not going to need you to do anything different this week. And he's just like, Okay, coach, cool. I'm gonna go prepare to be the starter. Yeah, but please don't. Please don't. Like, no, no, no, yeah, I don't think you heard me. He's like no no I got you prepare to be the starter I would love to see Carson Wentz doing the the walk into the stadium the fashion walk What he would wear if he were thinking that he was gonna be the starter because I actually think would be more boring than if he Were the backup yeah, I think it's more boring the more relevant he gets

I also think that Carson Wentz like you should want him to not prepare to be the starter because he's the type of guy it feels like if you just, like, hey Carson, you're in, he might not have enough time to realize, like, I'm Carson Wentz. Yeah, so the anxiety leading up to the game. If you told him he wouldn't sleep Friday or I guess in this case, he wouldn't get sleep on Thursday or Friday night. Right. So by the time he rolls up to the stadium He's all nervous and lacked sleep and you don't want him all week

Standing in front of his mirror being like I am Carson Wentz because then he'll slowly be like wait I I am shit I am Carson Wentz is it crazy to think that if you gave Carson Wentz a different Jersey with a different name on the back If you named him Peter Over my Alton Seca over my Peter over my yeah if it's an over my on the back of his uniform I would actually be like let's see what this guy can do yeah does he we haven't seen this guy if he scores a touchdown will he put out a QR code for Madden codes yeah but the wince

the wince on the back yeah the wince what you gonna say Max I think he's gonna cook Carson once isn't playing well if you? I think he's gonna cook. Carson Wentz isn't playing. Well, if he were, I think he'd cook. That's actually the safest thing you can say about Carson Wentz. I saw I saw Max's face through the glass and he had the face like he was about to eat a bunch of meatballs. He was just kind of like nodding to himself. I believe in Carson Wentz. It was a big miss on our part when we were talking about the Colts recent history of sad old broken down

Yeah, we left Carson Wentz off that yes are bad big miss big miss Uh, I guess I liked the the Chiefs in this game But I I don't know three and a half makes me nervous just because the Chiefs play every game to a field goal Is this is this the week though? That's a surprise for us. No, because listen the Chiefs have They play the Texans who are not bad. I'm not, I know I'm sounding down on the Texans. I just think it's weird because the Texans, I had hoped for them this year to be maybe a Super Bowl contender and they've instead just slotted into like the traditional AFC South team that will lose in the playoffs because I just don't think their offense feels

broken. So it's not that I don't think that like they're, they're not bad. And they could maybe win this game, but the chiefs, they are two games up right down the bills. They play the Texans. Then they play the Steelers in Pittsburgh who might be coming off a loss to the Ravens. If the chiefs drop one of these next two, they have to play their starters week 18. Yeah. So it's, it's not like, I know that they're in the driver's seat, but it's not completely, they got it. They got to keep

their foot on the pedal. They get the number one seat if they win and the bills lose or tie. Or yeah, they, they get the number one seat with a bill's loss or tie or a tie and a bill's loss. Yeah. And I, do we mention DJ Humphries is out? So that's bad. Yeah. That is bad. So I think it's going to be an ugly game, because I think both defensive lines are going

to dominate both offensive lines. The Texans offense has been just so boring this year that it's if this were the third year. If CJ Stroud had two great years to start his career, and then this happened in the third year coming off two disappointing playoff losses, then I would some stock in the like maybe they're saving something yeah they're saving the wrinkles the real stuff for the postseason yeah but year two it's like something something is not the same it just feels a little broken okay other Saturday

games Steelers at Ravens Ravens minus six and a half over under is 45 TJ Watt and George Pickens look or TJ Watt looks like he's gonna play yeah George Pickens look or TJ watt looks like he's gonna play. Yeah, George Pickens looks like he might play. Maybe maybe maybe TJ I have a theory about TJ Watts injury. Okay. Do you think he was actually injured? I don't know. I think this could be an art of war situation. If you watch the replay of it. It was like non contact kind of he was like he was past rushing but he didn't twist it. Nothing

looks strange on it. They just start hopping the game was already lost at that point. They know they have the Ravens next week. Sun Tzu art of war. No, they're playing the Ravens right now. Yeah, yeah. No, at the time. Yeah, they know they have the next week. Sun Tzu art of war. Make your enemy think that you are weak when you are strong. Start throwing out the one in 10 without TJ Watts that's Yeah, start. Yeah. ridiculous.

Let people start thinking during the week of practice. Maybe TJ is not gonna be playing this week. I don't hate it. I I because I went back and I watched the injury a few times. I'm thinking maybe because I mean, Mike Tomlin when he talks, he sounds like he's the art of war. Yeah. Translated back and forth like three times from English to Chinese, English to Chinese, back to English. Just a theory I have.

I think TJ will be fine. I think TJ will be fine. I think George Pickens might play. He's been practicing a little bit. Yeah. I would love to see him play, because we need more George Pickens in our life. Just a reminder, because this is just a don't think,

just bet game for me as an underdog of four points or more verse the Ravens The Steelers are eight no against the spread in franchise history And the Mar Jackson is one in four straight up and oh and five against the spread verse Mike Tomlin and the Steelers in his career and then the Steelers in his career And then when these two teams play and the line is three or more points The underdog is 23 4 & 3 against spread in this series in the last 20 years again 23 4 & 3 against the spread underdog is three or more points. I just Don't even since 2015 16 2 & 1 against spread, the underdog of three or more points. Yeah.

I mean, let's just take the underdog. So 18 times these two teams have played in the last 35 and it's been decided by three points or less. It's crazy. So it's always going to be like that when it's Ravens and Steelers. It's also Lamar Jackson's first time playing in front of fans at home against the Steelers. Oh wow. Isn't that crazy?

He's been injured. Like, cause you would think that they've seen each other a few times at this point, but yeah, he's been injured, had butt stuff and then COVID there were no fans. Wait, what happened last year? Uh, let's see. 2023. Did he? He's Lamar's been insane.

I know that there's a, obviously there's gonna be an MVP debate. I think the only thing that bothers me I think both both guys Josh Allen Lamar Jackson like their numbers are just insane and Lamar's numbers I mean 34 touchdowns and three interceptions nuts It will just come down to I think Lamar Might win it just because he plays two standalone games. Yeah. And that's all this award ends up coming down to. Maybe I don't know.

I feel like Josh Allen's been so good in big games though. Agreed. But it's the, there, the amount of big games. Like I think Josh Allen plays the bills, the dog or the Patriots or sorry, the Patriots or the Patriots, the jets, the Patriots. Yeah. Patriots are the Patriots the Jets the Patriots. Yeah, that's Whereas Lamar Jackson plays the Steelers on Saturday, and then he plays Against the Texans on Christmas Day. Mm-hmm. So that It's just all there

I think it should be Josh Allen, but I also understand this award becomes narratives We talked about it with John Gruden, but like remember last year, that's not a thing. No, I mean, it's you know, it's more more in the NFL. They do the narratives. We don't do the narratives has either one of them had Heisman moment. Josh did Josh did yeah, passing catching and rushing the path. Yeah, I'd say the the run that he had was a couple couple weeks ago against that zone defense 50 yard touchdown run. That was a big one Lamar I mean if he can beat the Steelers at home Because I looked it up last year was Tyler Huntley. Oh, he missed that game. It was snoop That's I forgot that he missed the game last year that guy won the MVP

I mean that game got Tyler Huntley into the Pro Bowl that was two years ago I think when he finished the season for the mark 2023. Yeah, you you're right. Right. Because it was January 1st, 2023. Yeah. So I'm just going to take the underdog. Also, this was a, I love when athletes give just honest quotes and they don't do like the cliche. Cornerback for the Steelers, James Pierre was asked what the key is to tackling who his cousin is, his cousins Lamar Jackson said, what's the key to tackling him? And he said, ain't no key. He's crazy. That guy's crazy. That's no key. Lamar is crazy. No, he's having an insane, insane statistical season. Yes. So right now Josh Allen's minus nine. I want Josh to win.

I'm just saying how these things work. He's got Lamar's got two standalone games and Josh has zero. I think the narrative though of Lamar winning two years in a row true could swing it to Josh and Josh got dinged last year because his team's record wasn't as very good. Now his team's record is better than Lamar. Although Lamar did beat them head to head. We'll see.

We'll see. I think if you did a blind resume right now, can we do that? Max, can you pull up blind resume for Lamar and Josh? How would I do that? If you just showed us Yard's passing. Oh. You want me to like make a a graphic we can do what? Not touch not rushing touchdowns not rushing touchdowns I

Think a lot of the other Google doc I'm just curious yeah, we don't do narratives. Yeah, we don't do narrative, but also don't do it like well don't do it if Just just search on Twitter Lamar verse Josh. They probably someone did it. Yeah, that's actually not true So if we did blind narratives during college football season I think we also would have said the guy that has stats at wide receiver and cornerback Yeah, that would have been the easy blind resume. We don't do narratives. No, I Still are you guys still getting some residual ashen genti heat a little bit I got I have a couple people who are just hanging on I kind of respect him at this point yeah it's like a week later can't

change it and I'll just tweet you know like oh what a trick play in this bowl game like fuck you for the ashen genti heat but guess what okay I respect, if, if. I'm like, okay. I respect, tip my cap. Boise State wins the national championship. You can then thank us for giving the Bulletin. Yeah, the motivation. I mean, this is gonna take you forever, Max. And we're about to talk about the Commander's Eagles. Yeah, go for it.

Go for it. That's stress. I couldn't do it. One thing to note, and this is something that the Ravens, like if you're looking for holes in this Ravens team, obviously their secondary hasn't been great, but they've gotten a little better defensively

They are through week 15. They are dead last in Penalties against their dead last in penalty yards against their dead last and penalties per game They're dead last in penalty yards per game. They're the most penalized team and it's not even close and That feels significant, especially when you're gonna play in these tight games in late December and early January What do we think about Deontay Johnson with the Ravens? Him and the Ravens have mutually agreed to excuse him from playing that seems like the correct thing to do Yeah, yeah being mutually excused. I think he had like five targets total as a Raven. Yeah, so it's been hasn't been great has not been great Okay

Eagle Hank, let us know if there's any hungry dogs that you seen. I love the Ravens you do. Yeah. Oh that makes me nervous Cuz you're a dog guy. I'm a dog. Yeah That makes me nervous. Because you're a dog guy. I'm a dog guy. OK, Eagles and Commanders. Commanders plus 3 and 1 half over under 45 and 1 half. I'll let you guys take away. I just had a question for Max first.

OK. Max, are you worried at all about the curse of Jim Kelly? Please explain. The curse of Jim Kelly. Are you worried at all about the curse of Jim Kelly? I don't know what that is. Okay, so the curse of Jim Kelly is a curse that just hit the internet. Dan Mitchell posted it at real Dan Mitchell. Essentially essentially it's any quarterback That goes to a Super Bowl and loses their first one Never goes back to the Super Bowl

Jalen Hurst did that are you worried about the curse of Jim Kelly? There's a week-by-week league. I'm worried about the commanders You're worried. I'm just saying, are you focused on the command? If you think you should be worried about the curse of Jim Kelly, I'm focused on the curse of Jim Kelly. Do you understand the curse of Jim Kelly? Any, any since Jim Kelly played again and lost his four Superbowls, any quarterback that has gone to a Superbowl as their first time going to the Superbowl and lost it, never went back. Yeah, I'm focused on Stan Humphries, Neil O'Donnell, Drew Bledsoe Chris Chandler Steve McNair Kerry Collins Rich Gannon Jake DeLome Donovan McNabb Matt Hasselbeck Rex Grossman All these guys are oh and one and stayed on one for lifetime Colin Kaepernick Cam Newton Matt Ryan Jared Goff

Jimmy Garoppolo Joe burrow Jalen hurts Brock Purdy Jared go you're telling me that Joe can never win a Super Bowl. I didn't say that I said are you worried about the curse of Jim Kelly? That's crazy stat. It's crazy. That's a nerd That's a real damn Mitchell until the the recent updates of that list. It's not great quarterbacks on that list No, that's true. But recently I'd seen the last still even like a mutant Matt Ryan. Yeah, like we never went back Recently, I'd say in the last seven years. But still even like Cam Newton and Matt Ryan. Yeah. Like they never went back.

Yeah, Max, I'll tell you this. I'm worried. I'm worried about the Eagles. I think you guys might stop us. There's always the opportunity. No, what does that mean? There's always the opportunity of a whopping. Yeah, I think it is going to be a whopping.

PFT, can I give you a positive for this game? OK. You guys have the good vibes going because you had both of your kickers mispractice not as a couple separately. They both were expecting children. Yeah, that's what's crazy is like, it's been it's been a crazy year things turned around in DC and it's so good that our kickers are fucking. Yeah, Zayn Gonzal and Greg Joseph. Both of our kickers are having sex. Yeah. Which is crazy. Again, not together. We weren't having a baby together. Well, we don't know that. That's true. Love is love. Yeah, that's good vibes. Things tend to be positive after a win. You go back and you look at some good things that happened the first half last week. Hopefully our center's back because if we have that same offensive line that we had last week eight sacks Yeah, Eagles are gonna tee off. Yeah, get ready tee off buddy

So max talk us through this Are you like what's the vibes gonna be like on on because this is for the NFC East, correct? No, what if I win it you? That's but the way you said that I thought you meant like the winner takes the NFC Correct, correct, correct. But the way you said that I thought you meant like the winner takes the NFC Well, you win you win you get we win we get but we just have to win one of the last you lock it up Okay, yeah, but I mean it'd be nice to lock up the NFC. Yeah home play This is for the NFC's this is for the NFC's for the League Eagles to win the NFC's for a home game Yeah, this is they don't want to come in the link. This is me. This is to make somebody come into Philly

Yeah, no, you don't want to do that. No, you don't want to do that. You don't want to make anyone go to Philly No, they all know what wants to go to you don't want anyone go to Philly under a Los have lost one game at home this year and it was the game that I attended That's neither here nor there. What happened in that game? You say Kwan dropped the ball and then we gave Kirk Cousins. Kirk Cousins, too much time in the clock. Imagine if you guys had won that game. Yeah. Oh, we would be...

You'd already have the division. But then again, we also shouldn't have won the Saints game and we did win that game. So that's why I keep going back to of like, I can't believe we lost that game, but then I also can't believe we won the Saints game. Yeah. So Max, I think that this is prime for a whopping for the following reasons one our offensive line did not look good At all last week against like a mediocre Saints defense to it feels like

Every position on your team except for quarterback and maybe Terry McLaurin is better for the Eagles Who is Terry McLaurin better then? Well he's having a great year. Gun to your head right now. AJ Brown, Terry McLaurin, who do you take? Be careful, PFT is going to catch up. Gun to my head this year right now. No.

Be careful. I'm saying right now. Terry McLaurin has 11 touchdowns, he's had a great year. Yeah, fantastic year. Who's having the better year, AJ Brown or Terry McLaurin? Who's the better football player? Who's the better person? I think you want a friend. I think you want a better person. I think you want a round. But aside from the quarterback position,

I just want to put some respect on Terry's name because he should get respected. He's got like a thousand yards and in every season since he's been in the league basically. And uh, yeah, he just doesn't get talked about term or over Devontae Smith. Yeah, national sports podcast Terry McLaurin deserves all the accolades But besides the position quarterback, I don't think we have a single advantage over you guys Even that is tight what at this point in their career, the quarterback position? You said many times this year that you would take... That is out of context. What do you mean?

If you had to take a position going forward with contracts involved, you would take Jaden Daniels over Jalen Hurts. Yeah, well, we have Jaden Daniels and his contract on our team right now. You you're you're just adding stipulations to this. Who is better. All right. Outside the position quarterback. I don't think that we have anything that can. I'm trying to give you a compliment Max. Thank you. Outside the quarterback.

I don't think that we have a position that is better on our side. Kicker. I don't think so. I don't know. Over 50 yards. Over 50. Has your kicker made a 50 yarder this year? Yes. Several we've had. Jake Elliott has not. I'm willing to get at this see at this point of their career I'm willing to give you that one. No, I reject Jake. It was last time Jake. Elliott had a kid Let alone to great question yeah, we've had to the price of one, but I is that's good. That's good for your kicking game Yeah, is it? Yeah? Yes? It's yeah, baby bump. What are we talking? Well? I know for wide receivers

It works. I don't know about kickers. We should get we should do any time touchdown score for your kicker I like that so max that's why I'm saying I think that you guys are in a position to to want But it's the NFL anything can happen any given Sunday any given Sunday. You guys are at home I'm excited of a shit field. It'll probably be 50% Eagles fans in the stands. That's not true. I'm excited for... No, it's not true. You know that's true. We retook Ralph John Maryland this season. Okay. Yeah. We also do clinch a playoff berth, Hank, if we win and either a Falcons loss or tie, and a Rams loss or tie, or if we win and a Falcons loss or tie and a Seahawks loss or tie. There you go. That does involve the Falcons lost or tie and a Seahawks lost or tie

There you go with that does involve the Falcons losing to the Giants though So and you also beating and also us beating the Eagles. I think that's that's we'll get to it hungry dog Wow the Giants yeah, oh the job Oh, no, I thought you meant the commander. No, no, no, no, no. Ask Hank about the Eagles. Hank about the Eagles. I had a big gambling day on Sunday and then I put a big bet on the Packers won that and then when we were doing the show I was like I want to put a bomb future down and I put it on the Eagles. I have five grand on the Eagles plus 450. That'll be the biggest bet I've ever won. I almost did that mean thing,

but I decided not to do it because Max is down so bad. I almost did the mean thing. You should have. I could still do it. What's the mean thing? Maybe see after this weekend. I'll just say I was gonna put a 20K future on the Eagles at the Drafking Sportsbook in Wrigleyville and then send an email to the whole company and say

This is getting split evenly between everyone at the company Under the only stipulation if the Eagles lose you have to blame Max personally. I Didn't do it though. I didn't do it. I you know what? I'm willing to I would I'd be willing to take that risk. That's the spirit But then that would be literally like every single like Nikki smoke should be like what the fuck Everyone but Nikki smoke. Oh, no. No, it's all or nothing. He would be such a bitch about it. Yeah, I Hank I would just basically weaponize everyone in the office against you There's a difference between Hank having having the future and you having the correct Hank is a winner and I'm yes fired up that

Travis Hunter 200k now now Super Bowl winner you that guy that guy just what was that time you want a Super Bowl future? No, Oh winners. Okay. All right, Hank also. That's also been a while to the commanders to win the Super Bowl That's true. He's a winner and one on the Bears. No. Oh, no. Thanks. Oh Yeah, so Max congratulations, I think you got this one in the bag this weekend. I Disagree, it's a way game. It's hard to win on the road in this league Alright, well, I'm excited to watch you guys any stakes or no, I gotta get a perm, okay So double no well double permit here the problem with the perm bed is my hair is curly already

And so if I get a perm it's like oh, it just looks like he's wet if I lose I'll continue to have a broken foot Deal mm-hmm if I lose I will I Almost said something that I shouldn't have said and I'm glad that I didn't say it good Sometimes my mouth gets it from my brain. I'm glad that I didn't say it. Good. Sometimes my mouth gets it from my brain. I'm very happy you didn't say it. Good job not saying it.

If the commanders win I'm going to throw Max's wheelchair into the dumpster. Love that. Fine I'm like kind of walking now. Yeah you are kind of walking. Basically walking. Okay Giants at Falcons. Falcons minus eight and a half over under 42. I mean Hank already buried the lead he's going to take the Giants but Falcons Falcons minus eight and a half over under 42. I mean, Hank already

buried the lead he's gonna take the Giants but we should talk we get his his former go quarterback the guy that got you in a college football playoff as a husky Hank Michael Penneck turning your back on him. So we taped on Tuesday in the afternoon we said that you should maybe think about Michael Penneck said it was announced later that day. Michael Pennex was at Costco about to get a $1.50 hot dog when he got the call and he said he wasn't hungry anymore after learning of the news. Do you gotta still eat the hot dog? No, I like that, I like that.

Also, Kirk Cousins called Michael Pennex, classy guy. He called him personally and he said, I like to shoot elephants in the room, so I thought I'd go and shoot one Nick nurse could learn something from that poaching. Yeah And Kirk Cousins if that's the end of his career as the Falcons quarterback He made fourteen point three million dollars per win Seven-point-one million per start five point five million per TD

three hundred and thirty,000 per completion. And also, Kirk Cousins in his 14 games with the Falcons, $90 million guaranteed, has the franchise record for most passing yards in a game. That's pretty incredible. Remember he did that against the Bucks. Also just round of applause for Kirk Cousins' agent. Yeah. Agent of the year that's tremendous. He's always getting the bag. I don't think that,

we're gonna see Kirk Cousins play another game. I don't think that's the end of the road. For the Falcons, I don't think so. Probably not for the Falcons. Yeah. But he'll go somewhere else. I think he's definitely, he came back too soon from the Achilles.

And it still just shows just how ridiculous it was that the Falcons did that, signing Kirk Cousins to $90 million guaranteed and then drafting Michael Pennex two weeks later. Yeah, one one without the other. I mean, it turns out that it was a good move for them to draft Michael Pennex. Right. And a bad move. A bad move to sign. It's like they instantly regretted having Kirk on their team. Actually, it might be genius. You just go both options so that at least you have a good option.

You have a quarterback. Yeah. I mean they were saying with Kirk, hopefully we won't be so, we'll be so good that we won't be in a position to draft a quarterback that we really, really like in the future. So we might as well get it right now. It ended up working out for him. So I like Michael Pennex. If you watch him when he, especially his last year at Washington, he was just the most accurate quarterback that you've ever seen. Throwing outside the numbers, attacking the entire field.

And he didn't take sacks, which is, that's going to be a big one for the Falcons. So he got sacked, I think, like eight times or something over the course of the entire season last year. He had a great offensive line, too. It was incredible. So yeah. Fun fact about Michael

Pennex, same high school recruiting class as Justin Fields. And Trey Lance is Michael Pennex is one day older than Trey Lance, I believe. Oh, wow. So yeah, that stat will get thrown out there a lot. Because I think he started college in like 2018. Yeah. So I think he's gonna do well. I think there's a perfect start for him against Giants team that is so, so bad. Um, and I'll say it because we got to every time there's some type of new change, a quarterback for the Falcons. This is a guy to unlock Kyle Pitts. Yeah, maybe. Probably not. Maybe. Probably not. Yeah. I think he might be the guy to finally unlockichon. Yeah. And give us a proper. Yeah. But like, you know, I'm saying that we all say we want more Bichon. Yeah, I need more Bichon. Now he's gonna be he's a lefty. So is that maybe Kyle Pitts just needs a left

handed quarterback. Yeah, Kyle Trash was not. But yeah, still, I, it would be I just like the idea of just Kyle Pitt's existing for the next 15 years and every time there's any little change, you're like, could unlock him. I also love the story about him eating a Costco hot dog. Michael Pinnix just gave the call. In the food court. He's got to eat it.

He didn't eat it. Did he order the hot dog and then sit down and he had the hot dog? He said he was about to buy it, and then he he decided he got the call and said, Oh, I'm not hungry anymore. Dude, you got to fuck you. You don't have that dog in you. He literally Yeah, he was in line.

Yeah, but maybe that's good for Falcons quarterbacks to not have any dogs. Yeah, true. True. Okay. Thank you really. You're gonna bet the Giants money line. Yeah, there's not there's not a lot on the board this week. It is drew lock

But it's you know, that's it's basically just taking a gamble on a rookie quarterback not performing well. Yeah Mm-hmm, which is it's it's definitely a somewhat of a coin flip, but mm-hmm. That's where my head's at Yeah, do they do the boomer doom for the for the hot dogs or is it just a double chocolate chunk cookie? I know the chicken bake as well. Okay, but not for the hot dogs I don't sure they have everything in Costco. Yeah, then she's up for grab. Okay, so they should do that's not the foundation of it Of the boomer doom though. That's chicken bacon the double Chuck Chuck Chuck a chip got it the giant secondary should get This be called the Legion of Doom. Yeah Or the Legion of Boom and they they do big hits. They're good. Yeah real fucking good Okay, lions at Bears

Bears six and a half are sorry Bears plus six and a half over-under is 48 the Bears have not won a football game since Jay Cutler got a DUI. That's interesting. Yeah, 66 days since her last football win or 67 I believe 62 days since you got right. And it's like an even longer for on American soil, right? Yeah. Oh, because of the Jaguars. No. Yes. Panther. Yes. I think Panthers was before the Jaguars. What week was that? Six. I haven't won a football game in two months. It's a long time. I don't know if you're gonna win this one. Oh, no, probably not

No, we're gonna make a bowl. You knew that your piece of shit. What ball game is Washington playing in? Yeah, I'm a UNC guy. Oh, you're UNC guy. Yeah, what do we give me they play? Well, they got its new program new year. Okay My only note was if the offense doesn't look good against this Lions defense, I'm gonna get mad again. Yeah, that's not prime time. I think that's fair prime time. I think that's for you need to see something. And lions are outside lions aren't as good outside. So that's good. Did you guys see the report? What was in a report? Amon Ross said it himself. He was sick before the Bills game and he puked for the first time in his life That's just a guy who's been living a way different life than everyone else

Who didn't go to college to be a professional athlete? Does that mean he was never sick as a child? Does that mean that he is I think so even condition that yeah never worked out condition his entire life Which is makes sense ball also like how old is monra 25 Do like if you puke for the first time in your life at 25, are you like? Oh my god. Am I dying? I've never had a bloody nose Yeah, I think ever had a panic attack. Hmm. I think that if 25 might have been the year that I puked the most No, I was that mine was definitely like 20 at 25, I'm combining booze with also. Yeah, 18.

That's when you start to get a little bit of acid reflux. No, cause I, well. Freshman year of college. Yeah, college, freshman year of college, also like, yeah, I would just puke like two times a weekend, no problem, just every single weekend. That's crazy to not puke. Also like every time in my 20s when I was like, I'm going to get in shape and then did a hard workout, I would puke.

Yeah. Because you are super out of shape. Out of shape. I also want to say that like, I think that I was always, I hated how you would get shamed if you puked in college. If you can bounce back, I don't think you should get shamed. Right. I think it's your, what happens after if you puke and then you're like oh my god I gotta go to bed I'm so drunk no I would just puke because I needed more room yeah if you can puke and rally that shows the ability to handle adversity puking for me you don't know if Amon Ra can handle adversity is he a pussy we don't know yeah puking for me in college was just like what's the woman's name Marie Kondo? I was just moving furniture around in my stomach Yeah that that 23rd love it or let it go. Yeah

I don't love this anymore. I'm gonna let it go. It did not spark joy. Yeah, so you got rid of it Yeah, that's it. That's concerning to me to me. It's more of a red flag Yeah, yeah, the Lions probably should win by easily because the Bears are dead. You guys beat him last year though, right? We beat him last year at home We almost beat him on Thanksgiving if it weren't for the timeout Yeah, no David Montgomery is a real issue. Yeah big time big time issue Okay Browns at Bengals Bengals minus eight and a half over under 47. This is my circle quarterback game Joe Burrow or DTR

Yeah, I was just hoping for Jamis against the Bengals defense Hey, I was I was looking forward to that now we can always say like imagine imagine What would have happened if Jamis started this game speed bump as we called it good. It's just speed bump It's another speed bump for him to deal with in his career He's gonna continue pursuing his dream and another team better give him an opportunity. Bangle, I just we need the Bengals to stay we're taping this before Thursday Night Football because I guess doesn't matter if Broncos or Chargers lose one of the teams gonna lose and the Bengals can spin it either way but they do get to play the Broncos next week. I just

like the Bengals still having something to play for. Like I get that Jameis gave you some headaches I understand that Jamis throws he throws interceptions That's what he does he threw some pick sixes But he fixed the pick six problem and only threw interceptions in the red zone after that. Mm-hmm What else do you want him to do? Mm-hmm DTR is bad is not the answer. He's not a quarterback. He's only win was a 13-10 game against the Steelers last year He's worse than Deshaun. Yeah,

it's not it's not going to be better. You're not going to watch and be like, thank God we made that change. Right. We look like we're calm. James can get he can get you up and down the field. He just might not finish the drives in the end. Correct. So do you want you guys to have staff? Do you care about your receivers having stats? Yeah. Jerry, Jerry Judy, if you want to improve your Madden rating, you're going to want Jamis throwing you the ball. This is a, it's a, it's a classic situation of being like, we got to see what we got with the young guy. No, we don't. And we get it. Seen it. We know what we got with the young guy. Yeah. Bad. Like DTR. No. Awesome college quarterback. Loved betting on him at UCLA. No, not an NFL quarterback. So if you look at the two,

them at UCLA? No, not an NFL quarterback. So if you look at the two, Joe Burrow, DTR, circle one, DTR and DTF. Yeah, I'm taking DTF. Yeah, easy. It is my circle quarterback game. I had that last week. Mack Jones or and Rogers. Yeah, circle one. Okay. Titans at Colts, Colts minus three and a half over under 42 and a half. The Titans, the Tennessee Titans are two and 12 against the spread. That is remarkable. Good for them. Two and 12 against the spread. We also had Brian Callahan. I kind of like the Titans this week just because Mason Rudolph and Brian Callahan had to answer to the Questions about his team being soft and he said I think it's complete and total bullshit That means you just don't watch this shit. You can shove that right up your ass. I love I loved it My when I first heard it, I was like good for him. But also who called the Titans soft? I

Don't think we've ever said the Titans were soft. Did we? Yeah, I don't know who did. Is that a discourse that's being had out there? Yeah, they're bad football. They're really bad. Two and 11 against the spread. They're a bad football team. They're boring. We didn't say that they're boring. Yeah. But I don't think we ever said that they were soft. A bummer. He also said that teams know that they just played them when they get done with the games. Yeah, because they win. Because yeah, well they win. They're like, oh shit, we won. No, but he was saying it like they remember, they remember that that's, that's the Titans we just played against.

No, they left an impact. I would say that it's the opposite where you want teams to not be able to remember who you are because you just knocked the shit out of them. Yeah. Or they're confused after the game. Also, I think that really is like the, like the Jaguars played the Titans two weeks ago And they knew they played the Titans because they're like, holy shit. We just won a game Yeah, that was crazy. We come off the field. They know they just played us make them remember forever

Remember the Titans the day they play the Titans. Yeah. Yeah This game stinks though. So in the NFL script, it's always that Mason Rudolph is going to get a start before Christmas. Right. Like legally, they had to do that. Yes. That people can make jokes about it. Do we think that I need Jonathan Taylor to run with if he scores a touchdown, run with the ball all the way back to the bench? Yeah. So my my fix to that as a coach would be to tell my running

back all my players, if you score a touchdown at this point, I'll take I'll take the excessive excessive celebration penalty. Yeah, do whatever you want in the end zone. I don't give it act like it's a gun and then go around and execute every single player on the defense. Do whatever I'll take the flag. Just don't but you have to have the ball in your hand. Yeah, some like AI or drone program needs to figure out a way like where you know, it's almost like Running with a grenade and if you drop it in a certain zone, it will actually blow up in training camp Yeah live ammunition. Yeah, I don't mind that you drop the football in this zone Maybe there's a landmine that only is activated with balls at the goal line. Yeah

Yeah, you set up it well because no if it was like an invisible fence Then it would every time a player has ball because they do this in training camp anyways, every run that they have finish every run, get to the end zone. So you set like a 15 second timer of explosive inside the grenade. And you have to cross the goal line with the ball for it to be deactivated. Yeah, someone figure that out. Someone figure that out.

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Names their kids after erections Okay. Yeah, Woody. Hold on. woody hold on hold on but they get hard Woody and bray I don't want I don't want to say anything bad about brock brick brick and who's the other one? Well, woody, okay, you have a woody, but who's the other son brick brick and woody What is that? I? Don't know the whatever just I don't want to say anything bad about the Sun because there was a report that came out today that essentially the

the Johnson sons might be Influencing decision-makings at the NFL level and I just want to say these kids What like 17 18 year old kids in New Jersey? I think they're in college college kids from New Jersey. Maybe an SEC school 5050 chance their AWL's I'd say higher. I mean we might be shadow GM's of the New York Jets our decision-making might be influencing the New York Jets. So I'm standing with brick I actually do whatever you want, bro. I think that the problem is that brick doesn't have enough power. Yeah, I feel like he's being limited like one day

He will own the Jets the way that seems to get passed down I feel like brick it's time to just unleash full brick if I I'm fully brick. I can't wait till next year when James gets announced the the starting quarterback for the Jets and Woody Johnson's like we thought he was gonna be a perfect bridge quarterback to win A Super Bowl and we're just like oh shit. That's exactly what memes said Yeah, but yeah the report came out a lot of dysfunction in New Jersey a lot of dysfunction it starts with the reason anecdote that we shared that the Jets were at the one inch line of trading for Jerry Judy this off season and Woody Johnson talked to his boys and his boys were like,

yeah, his Madden rating is too low. So that trade was X'd out. He ended up getting traded to the Browns. There's reports that one of the sons is giving away game balls. That is true. That one was tough, like basically jumping in front of the coach to give away a game ball. It was, it was Ulbrich's first win as a head coach. He took it from Aaron Rogers hands and gave it to Jeff.

Jeff Ulbrich. They love, they love bricks in this organization. Yeah. They got Brick brick Johnson Ulbrich Debrickishaw Ferguson. Mm-hmm. I think I heard that that brick was actually named after Debrickishaw. Oh, that's kind of cool. Yeah, they also Have been heard maybe Talking ill of the players in the locker room after games the Mike White Yeah, the Mike White story that he played he had broken ribs and then Woody was in the locker room and Mike White threw his

helmet and Woody goes you should throw your helmet you fucking suck. Yeah there's a story about the two Bobs which is an homage to office space where they have Woody brought in two guys from his investment firm who just go around doing interviews with people Seeing what they do for a living There was coaches fired for no reason What else What else that's most of the headlines right there? Yeah, yeah, it's most of most of the alleged headlines Okay, so alleged which one which one of these is not true

Well, we have to see if any other reporters fact-check that But I well, I'm gonna wait for more information to come out this by the way It was my silver Mike silver who RG 3 came on the podcast called him a liar. Mm-hmm Diner Sini who I've came on this podcast And Zach Rosenblatt okay, yeah, so memes what about the parts in the article where the team confirmed that this stuff happened The Broncos confirmed that happened no no no the the the spokesperson for the Jets said that they use Madden as a reference point as a reference, but it's not determined. Yeah confirming that that happened There is a quick way to figure out if someone's good or not

What about the part in the article where they talked about Woody Johnson and the team spokesperson said? Yeah, he apologized for saying them like white fucking sucks in the locker room. Also you like my point We'll talk that time out time out. Okay. That you have to- Mike White did suck that time out. Time out, time out, time out. That's a fair response. Time out, we've done everything wrong here. Can we please call him by what he likes to be called? Mr. Ambassador.

Yeah, Mr. Ambassador. Everyone in the building has to call him Mr. Ambassador. Yeah, and there was a part of the article where when he left to go overseas to be the ambassador to England, and his brother, who also co-owns the team. Yeah. But Woody's like, this is my gig. His brother took over and was just like, he was the chill guy meme behind the scenes. Just like, you guys do what you do.

Yeah, just do your thing. Like as an owner, I think I would buy a team and then I would probably act a lot like Woody Johnson in the first like two or three years. And then I'd just be like, you know what? I'm too rich for this shit. Well, he's only owned the Jets for like two or three years right mr. Ambassador. Yeah, he's owned it since 24 years something like that. Yeah. Oh yeah, 24 since 2000 something like that. Yeah. Yeah something like that memes is bad This is bad still waiting to see if it's true

So are you gonna find out if I'm sure I'm curious to know how memes thinks the media works So now that the stories come out then there will be other reporters that go to the Jets and they're like hey Can we confirm that that stuff is all true and then that that's the story you'll pay attention to yeah But I also told Hank about this a month ago that it was possible that we were the shadow Gm's oh you did it they, it was like week by week, Devonte Adams, we said Devonte Adams, they signed Devonte Adams. We said Son Reddick, they signed Son Reddick.

It was week by week. So he might actually listen to the podcast. All right, so what's the next move? Because we're brick guys. Yeah, we're big time brick guys. Give brick more responsibility. By the way, I'd just like to say, as it pertains to Devante Adams. I think Tony Soprano said it Remember when is the lowest form of conversation? So

Worry about the Jets Devante Adams and not remember when company of stories You guys see his story on K Adams show. No, he's good story He said I'm sure memes treated a bunch. He said about when he they would play the Bears late in the season He said we didn't go into that game after worrying it ever worrying about are we gonna win? We were thinking about how crazy we were gonna go. Can I set a record? Okay, so memes We're again. We stand with brick. We're brick podcast. We love brick and his brother. I don't know what we need to know his brother's name He needs a cool nickname like brick get we get it get his name

So memes, what's the next move? I give Mike for able 200 million dollars. Okay Mike's gonna appreciate that. I have another question about the Jets. You were talking about this to me earlier what's going on with Aaron Rodgers and Who who's in a fight with oh yeah, and Rogers fine with Ryan Clark Oh, it's like a it's like a 10 round fight And it's both guys being like we don't give a fuck what the media says but doing like videos that are very Explicitly meant to generate more love from whichever branch of the media their phonic for mm-hmm Yeah, and I unfortunately have to defend my quarterback.

So if you have a Vax, you're bad. Yeah. Yeah. Well, your owner literally is the heir to Johnson & Johnson, the vaccine company. Is Aaron Rodgers the last guy on earth who cares about COVID? I think so. I think he might be.

I don't even know. It's like him and Taylor Lorenz. That might be when he did ayahuasca for the first time So his brain is stuck in 2020. It's crazy It was like what are we even talking he was cooking defend himself and then it just he was I stand with Aaron Rogers in This because I want him back on the podcast some point By the way, we have an answer from earlier. The question was would you rather have Jaden Daniels or Jalen Hurts and Maxhead Phillies? Okay. Yeah.

Yeah. That's not an answer. But memes. Yes. There was another part of the article that I noticed and it kind of made sense for me a little bit. The Jets, they didn't hire any referees for training camp this year. Yeah.

And that's a standard practice. And then now they're the third most penalized team. Is this a form of legal bribery that every team does, where they just pay refs to come to their training camp? And then it's like, hey, you're on our payroll. We gave you money. Let's be nice. I'm not sure about the refs.

But isn't that weird that teams can pay the refs directly? And then if you don't pay them, then the refs can be then if you don't pay them then the refs can be like you Didn't pay us this offseason. Yeah. Yeah, and then what we're gonna take the flags what he always does talk to the rest for the game Which is weird. He does. Yeah, that is weird The owner now we should be both so we should play both sides here and be a fair and impartial media presence The spokesperson also said Woody Johnson just seeks out and welcomes feedback and debate We wouldn't have been named one of the best places to work in New Jersey if people thought that way There's never been a complaint. So they're on one of those lists of best workplaces

So that that is true because Ryan Fitzpatrick went on a podcast a couple weeks ago. He said That one jet drive is like one that one of the greatest places weeks ago he said that One jet drive is like one that one of the greatest places Yeah, it's just we have a fan that's in charge of our team and makes reactionary decisions and goes we lost one game Everybody's gotta go mm-hmm. That's awesome. Yeah, it's kind of dream. What's that's why we need Mike Frabel. Who's a winner? Hands off what about what about yeah hands off hands off hands off What about what about yeah hands off hands off hands off? Now you so old Pete Carroll mentioned the Jets today. He did yeah saying what like man that was such a crazy like 911 Worry, no. Yeah, you know I think he's like I wouldn't mind. I wouldn't mind if they brought me in

I'll take yeah, I would take Pete there you go You see who else they interviewed for their GM job. Who's that? Who's it Nagy the Matt Was it Maggie? Jim Nagy? Jim Nagy? The guy who runs the senior? Oh, yeah, so we might just get everybody from the senior ball. I think you're just getting everybody from X the everything app Yeah, no, we're in trouble. Yeah, I'm still trying to figure out if the report It's it's Jack what happened Jack Jack is the is the other son Shout out Jack where Jack guys as well. Mm-hmm. What's that? I said what happens on X everything

It's all happening on X. Yeah It is some today You are the media Hey, you know, I don't think you're you are the media on X true By the way, the ads for the game memes you think you're gonna win Based off of everything that happens we know okay, but West Coast East Coast yeah Aaron Rodgers also ate no lifetime against the Rams. Yeah, it's cold as shit He's got a chip on his shoulder. That's yeah, the cold is a real thing

It's gonna be 24 a kickoff and the Rams played four outdoor games under Sean McVay, where the temperature was 35 or lower. And they're 1 and 3. So the only game they won was when they beat the Broncos. And Todd Gurley had 208 yards rushing. So I feel like the Rams are going to run the football. Yeah, I think the Jets are going to run the football, too. I have a question that's not related to this or the report and I gotta watch it

myself to come to a conclusion but my initial reaction is that it seems crazy to be this spiritual go on these retreats to escape everything but also film it all for Netflix documentary. Oh, is that like is there any element of hypocriticism there? Hypocriticism, hypocriticism. Is that hypocritical? Probably. But I bet you can pay to shit on money. Yeah, yeah. So no, so and then that gets more trips to ayahuasca bill. Right? Yeah, just I've seen that they were filming it. I was like, wait a second. I thought these were like, spiritual retreats where you're supposed

to, you know, know, you can spiritual retreats where you're supposed to you know yourself, but it's like let's film this Wouldn't that freak you out more if you were doing an ayahuasca trip and you had that cameras in your face But I think this adds to his like I'm telling my story. Yeah, so nobody else could twist legends Or like I'm actually a good teammate Jordan loves my guy. Yeah, yeah, I might not come back next year by my comeback. I think you guys actually win this game Eight eight no eight no Aaron Rodgers versus Rams best. I think that's the best record against another team You want the second best is this one will shock you?

Another undefeated seven and oh so don't have it pictures no Tom Brady was seven oh against Cowboys but he lost in a playoff game so it gets technically seven and one Josh Allen dolphins no to a patriot oh I did not know that I yeah to a seven at all against patrons you like what I did earlier with the Sean McVeigh stat of him being one in three and cold weather games Yeah, those are it's the Jerry Goffs that I just put yeah, we just put it. We don't do narratives No, we just put it on narratives. We don't do narratives on this podcast Okay, let's let's rip memes. You good. You look confused. Yeah, I'm confused. I just don't how do you get someone to sell a team?

I don't know dude. I'm trying to do the same thing Yeah, the the only way is to implicate them in some sort of financial crime against the other owners Yeah, if you can yeah, you can do anything a federal probe Yeah, you can do well know because the federal probes about sexual harassment like that They didn't care about that you have to you have to make the other owners think this guy's costing you money Yeah, memes you you know like When you when you play like the Sandlot, when they do the thing where they put their hands on the bat. Yep.

That's basically what we've just been doing about like embarrassing franchise stories this year between the Bears and the Jets. So I'm appreciate, I appreciate that you're back on top. Yeah, just got lobbed back. Yeah. I mean the athletic is you success with the Jets. Well, I mean, I'm just gonna throw this out there. So Mike silver wrote this story About the Jets. He just finished a book about the 49ers Was there anyone who coached with the 49ers who might have been a scorned person in the Jets organization?

Yeah, oh, yeah, Robert Salah. I might have been a scorned person in the Jets organization. Yes. Oh yeah, Robert Sala. I love when these stories come out, it's like, well I know who wrote this. Yeah, the problem is when you have a dysfunctional organization, then you have a lot of people who are very willing to become sources for articles like this

and tell everything that happened behind the scenes. I think Robert Sala just handed Mike Silver his journal. He's like, here's my diary, go ahead, write a story. Yeah. And I know that you think the athletics been obsessed with you guys memes, but I mean, if I know, I know if Diana Rossini wrote a tell all article about the dysfunction, say for the Patriots at the end of the season, would you be like, okay, I believe that. Yeah, she'd be, I mean be I may not be her number one fan that's probably the only way that she can get memes back memes you got to start a running tally because we'll probably see Diana at the combine we'll have her back on so have us running tally of all the

questions and stories that she needs to you know you know you probably know max didn't shit himself on that flight yeah true wait now you're being the mean owns that shit himself yeah no it's not you're making stuff up. Whoa wait Max Did you show yourself? I don't even remember farting. I was asleep Okay, let's move on uh Well power through some of these cartels of Panthers. I don't know Panthers plus five over on his 47 I'm gonna take I'm gonna take the Cardinals. I don't fucking yeah the real question Did we learn our lesson last week about the Panthers?

Yeah, I think I did. I think I learned a good lesson. Uh, yeah, I got really nothing except that Kyler's probably probably won't be under a lot of pressure and the Cardinals will be able to run the ball. And that's usually a, you know, check mark, check mark. I want to bet on the Cardinals. I think I'm going to bet on McBride to score a touchdown until he does. Yeah. So receiving touchdown. He's got a rushing touchdown, fumble recovery touchdown. Kyler

Murray said that he was going to get him the ball in the end zone. I'm going to go down with that shift. Yeah. I might double down on it every week, responsibly, for when it doesn't hit. I'm in. I'm in. Okay. Afternoon. Vikings at Seahahawks Seahawks plus three over under 42 and a half It looks like Gino's gonna play The Seahawks season kind of comes down to this game because they have I mean they have to win out it will come down to week 18 Against the Rams, but this is very important. I don't know. I don't know Kevin O'Connell should be coach of the year

If Gino plays I I Think I like the Seahawks to cover. I don't think I've gotten a Seahawks game correct this year both on and against I don't think I've gotten a single one correct. Yeah, they bet on them. They get killed if I bet against them They kill the opponent. They surprise you you don't know what you're gonna if it's Sam howl listen I love Sam how I was in that howl band for a short period of time But he did not look good. No, he did not last week. He did not look I don't know Gino is like he is the epitome of just a completely Schizophrenic quarterback one week to the next so who knows if he starts. I think I like to see aux

to cover But the Vikings are the real deal. Yeah agreed agreed the Vikings are very much a real deal. The Vikings are going for the one seed which would be I mean it's they kind of were just laying there in the weeds. Everyone talking about the Lions everyone talking about the Eagles Vikings are right there and they control it all because they get to play the Lions in week 18.

So what oh yeah what are the tiebreakers? I don't know I saw some tiebreaker. I saw some scenario not necessarily I forget I Saw something on Twitter that that went through each each scenario for the Eagles to get It wasn't too detailed though to be honest with you pretty sure it's like here. It is okay Like there's scenario two is win out Lions lose one eat Eagles win the strength of victory tiebreaker, but there is a way that they win that tiebreaker. I just don't know

What that way is do we know what the strength of victory tiebreaker is? We tried to figure it out. I don't know I don't I don't know but according to this graphic There is a way that we had we win the tiebreaker over There's no way we win the tiebreaker of the Lions there is a way that we win a tiebreaker over the Vikings somehow I don't I don't know how okay I Think scenario one is the most likely yeah for this game I do have one step from my guys at sports info solutions

the Vikings are one of the heaviest play-action teams and Seattle is One of the worst play-action defenses in the NFL so could see a lot of play-action Maybe some deep shots to jump to Jay Jedis. They're just so good. Yeah, Madison and Jay Jedis Okay, Patriots of Bills Bills minus 14 over under 46 and a half. I think the bills can what? Need it hungry dog. No, no Sounds like what the fuck I was to say the bills can name their number when you say when you say need it You're saying we need a wamp it you need to get one. Yeah Oh, you want to get one? Yeah. Cause you want your mail out

to run mail. You hit through the report. No, variable McDaniels. Oh, that's a combo. Yeah. You don't, that's just people for Jay. John, John, he knows had Mack Jones in the pro bowl. Hold on. Hold on though. Hold on. This would make me scared tank Because variable McDaniel's yeah What happens if variable goes somewhere else and they're like, well we do could just do McDaniel's. Yeah, McDaniel's was half way in the door already He's a problem. No, I'm like that that's fair. I mean obviously the the he has very bad track record It was a head coach, but very very good No, he's at least like we have right now have a defensive coach and a terrible defense. At least we would have an offensive, you know, genius with a, you know, an offensive or new quarterback. So I wouldn't necessarily

want him as head coach, but the report that I was reading was Raybal McDaniels. So I want that and that, that, you know, the, the thought that Robert Kraft wouldn't get rid of Mayo because of, you know, pride, I think he knows it's like, you know, let's keep it Patriots, keep it Super Bowl champions. Like he would do that. That makes, that seems like something he would be okay doing. Yeah. I just, I think that it's, it's very, very dangerous. Josh McDaniel's awesome offensive coordinator.

Very, very good. You, but it's a little dicey now where the, you know, the Ra Raiders stop it seemed like there was some fucked up stuff going on there Yeah, but he already he had he had He'd already gone from offensive coordinator with Patriots failed head coach came back and was a great offensive coordinator like that I'm I if I agree. I'm not saying I want him as a head coach Right, but Frabel would do the same thing Give me that like give me variable McDaniels and I am pumped. I'm thinking soupy We're biased variables a friend of ours and we think very highly of him

But that couldn't worked out better for him that he didn't get a job last year I know he wanted to coach and you can get one like Every single team wants him. He gets to pick whatever team in whatever number he wants. Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's pretty good for him It's a good situation. I said so you want you want a whopping you are begging for a whopping right now You want to be spanked? Yeah, daddy. Yeah, you're a little sub. Yeah Oh shit, Josh. Yeah, get your dominate tricks in here. Love that get whipped love that for you It it might be a whipping for sure. Well, you know, I did bills can do whatever they want Yeah, 14 14 those can do whatever they want. Yeah. 1414.

Let's do whatever they want. And they're wearing the Patriots jerseys as you said, which is a weird choice. I don't, I don't love it for this game. It's going to be confusing when you watch it on TV, be like, wait, okay. That's the bills because they're scoring. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah.

Give me a whopping. Okay. You want the whopping. I think the whopping will probably happen. I think the bills can just score whatever they want and That's it. Yeah, they could set the record for the most 30-point games in a season. They're on eight eight right now No, I think they've got I think there's six in a row. They've got 11 Yeah, so there's six in a row and and the Broncos have the record the Broncos

Manning Broncos, I believe it was yeah, they had 13 30-point games in a season So the bills need to win out scoring 30 points in each game and then they have the record all to themselves I can do it Okay Jaguars Raiders Raiders minus one and a half over under 40 and half. We're not talking about This game right? No, we don't talk about we don't preview the Jags. Hey, can you tell me what happened with a Hawk to a coin? Again yeah, has there been an update to it? You already told you still asleep. Oh, okay. No updates

Uh, I the SEC is suing her Why Greg Sankey's what a dickhead the the whatever the financial essay. Oh, okay For doing a rug pull she made millions of dollars. Oh, so she did actually make millions of dollars. Yeah Wow Do we know that? Yeah I'm starting to get to the point in my life and age I'm just missing stories like I I know I know Hocktua I know that there was a little I did not know that she actually got away with millions of dollars

I don't I don't know if she actually got away with millions of dollars. I don't know if that is entirely accurate. I think she denies it. Yeah. Oh, that's good. Then we've got to take her word for it. I don't think that she created. Group of investors are suing Hocktooth, not SEC.

I don't even think SEC can sue like that. Okay. Yeah. I don't think that she created the coin and like wrote the code and then engineered the rugpole where she like dumped all the coin I feel like but is there a rug pull out there to there is there's no rug pull without Hawk to right? Yeah, yeah lawsuit claims the token was improperly marketed as a security without being registered with the SEC leading to significant financial losses Because let me ask you a question

Is there part of you that thinks if you invested your money in the Hawk to a coin that you should have seen something exactly like this coming? And then maybe you should try to sue yourself for being a fucking moron? It's the financial Darwin Awards. Yeah. We should, it's okay. That thins the herd. Yeah.

I'm not saying that she was ethical. Yeah. But I'm saying that she was ethical. Yeah. But I'm saying, come on. And I say that as a talk to a fan, I'll admit that. Yeah. It's a good podcast. That would be funny if they were suing to get spit on.

I'm gonna go to bed. I'm gonna go to bed, guys. I'm kinda tired. See y'all tomorrow. Okay, that was our Jaguars Raiders preview. Uh, 49ers, the dolphins, dolphins plus one over under 44 and a half. I like the 49ers in this game. Also Terry Hill says it's time for me to go coach. Yeah.

So that I read it as it's a fucking a man situation. Yeah. Did he say it's time for me to go coach or is he saying it's time for me to go coach? I saw it was right after Mike Vic. I originally thought he wanted to get cut and then I was like, no, he wants to get cut loose. Okay, so that's a third option. Yeah, does he want to get cut? Does he want to get unlocked? Or does he want to go coach college football? Yeah, we don't know. We don't know. I read today that the 49ers might be down to what that be their fifth string running back Mm-hmm, cuz Gerindo might not play. I think Gerindo got hurt in practice. Is that Izzy Izzy Izzy

Is it Izzy season Izzy? Is he to touchdowns this weekend is he to oh, yeah, is he do so much to start is they should start they got banjo, right? He's on the night. He should start in Kazooie banjo is that's a fifth string instrument. Oh That's Izzy Izzy look and go you're just showing us is he running okay in the combine you just showing us is this It was a tweet that's a reminder recent 49ers running back edition Izzy ABBA data random tweet that's a reminder of recent 49ers running back edition is he ABBA data random random official 441 he seems like a strong potential Shanahan scheme fit Patrick Taylor fucking pick him up. Who's Patrick said to be 49ers for starting running back. Patrick Taylor. Okay, maybe mixing some Izzy. Yeah,

definitely give us a little bit is he can forget that he ran a four four one second forty yard time at his pit pro day Yeah God who unofficial God? That's maybe the least inspiring tweet that I've ever read. He read an unofficial four four one forty Remember that remember that shit Alright last up bucks a Cowboys Cowboys plus four over under is 48. I Don't know bucks. Oh oh I love the box yeah I love the box he's gonna take the cowboys Liam Cohen's been awesome oh my hungry dog I think is gonna be too so the

hungry dog is plus money on the year I'm not gonna get crazy I think it's Titans Giants Titans Giants you're not gonna get crazy but the Giants that's a little crazy it is a little crazy I'm a crazy guy you are a crazy guy you're not gonna die easy, but the John's oh great. That's a little crazy. It is a little crazy I'm a crazy guy. You are a crazy guy. You're wild and crazy. I don't think I don't think the Cowboys would be crazy And I like the Bucks. I just think that the Cowboys have been playing good. Yeah, they've been okay one three out of four Maybe I don't know the the slate kind of takes a tail. It just falls off a cliff Mm-hmm, we've been Viking Seahawks in the afternoon will be nice, but everything else is there All right, much like you guys I have to reinvest my money

I put it immediately on the bills to win the Super Bowl and the NFC The bucks to win the Super Bowl nice at 30 to 1. I just went I just put all my money back in the banana stand I just went I just put all my money back in the banana stand Yukon 19 to 1 there you go. It's always money in the banana stand Okay, let's do our picks and we need a TD parlay because we are Want to know in our last one? I I wasn't part of it But I bet it and I rode with the boys every day is game day trafficking sportsbook and now through the end of the year It's extra special special all customers get a special daily promo every single day from profit boost odd boost no sweat bets and more

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Promotion sport eligibility and requirements vary. Ends 12-31-24. Sponsored by DraftKings. Uh, okay. So here's what we got this week. We're going gonna do our TD parlay. What do we got? I have Mike Evans Mike Evans okay? He needs 18 receptions 251 receiving yards plus 1 TD for 3 million Okay, so I'm probably gonna also bet his receptions over love that okay Brian Thomas jr. Okay, Brian Thomas jr. Like it I

Will go Can I do Sunday night? Yeah. Bucky Bucky Irving Bucky and Mike Evans. Oh, yeah. Fuck. That's fine. That's fine. Yeah, you said we can make sure I'll take it. Yeah, you said it with a lot of conviction. Also on Sunday when you're watching our streams, you'll see PFT and Max face off we we also so we did our NBA Cup Competition there's a four-way competition PFT Said he was the hottest NBA Cup gambler turns out. I'm also just as hot as a gambler We're in the NBA Cup were equally as hot so we split so is it for a 10k bonus bet We're gentlemen we were gonna just be like, all right, we'll each take 5k. No, no, no, we'll we'll we'll read we'll put it back in the pot and we'll make another competition out of it. So on Sunday on the stream, it's gonna be me and Max verse Hank and PFT, we're gonna do a draft on the late slate, each of each team has to pick five touchdown scores, the most correct wins the free bet and if it's a tie where

we hit our it's the most touchdowns so if there's multiple touch yeah for your guy yeah tiebreaker so release all those you'll see him it's I think Max said it best Hanks a winner Hank is one so I'm happy to have him on my side he's a winner okay let's do our picks what are the standings Hank fifteen and a half points first me and big cat 15 points PFT 13 max also 13 Oh Tie it's getting tight max was perfect last week, right? Yeah, it's wide open now. It's wide open All right. What do we got? first maxi I

Will be taking the Niners minus one. Shit. I'll be taking. You knew I wanted that. The Pittsburgh Steelers. You knew I wanted. Plus six and a half. Yeah, you knew I wanted that, Max. Why would you do that to me? I am going to take the

Cincinnati Bengals minus eight and a half. I will take the Ravens minus six and a half. Buffalo Bills minus 14. Wow. I will take. You're right. You're right. Do you want to say it? Nope.

I fucked that up last time and I lost. 49ers, Dolphins over 44 and a half. I will take, right? Me. I'll take the Jets Rams under 46 and a half. I'll take the Jets Rams over 44 and a half. I will take, right? Yeah, me. I will take the Jets Rams under 46 and a half. I'll take the Jets Rams over 46 and a half. I wanted that one, Hank. I will take the Giants Falcons under 42.

I like that. I will take the Cardinals Panthers over 47. I hate that. Yeah. it fine all right uh let's before we get to coach Gruden do a little fantasy fuckboys brought to you by our friends at body armor body armor is our favorite sports drink out there body armor real hydration, real ingredients, packed with electrolytes, vitamins, and nothing artificial.

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Mike Vrabel Mike Vrabel greatest coach. He's a Super Bowl champion with the New England Patriots. Come home Mikey The greatest coach he's a Super Bowl champion with the New England Patriots come home very believe me Mikey We need you strong man. We need your big strong man physical man big smart man, too I said him the New York Yankees. Why what happened? They just signed Cody Bellinger. Yeah, his wife Aaron Aaron jump Mike Stans ex-girlfriend. I forget which one Either one bad locker room vibes bad team city, fuck the Yankees. Yeah. It's gonna be an issue.

My sleeper? Hockdawah. Oh no. Hockdawah, spit on that thaaaaaam. She's still asleep, she's been sleeping 12 days. Lost all my money on Hockdawah coins. She might be asleep. Hockdawah.

Hockdawah. Hockdawah. Alright, alright, what's up, it's Vinny, Vinny Testaverde. Vinny Vinny testiverty Vinny testiverty Vinny testiverty Eany My stardom is the Pro Bowl. Oh guys are doing the skills challenges again. Hell. Yeah, and they're making guys punt They're making guys punt and and throw at the accuracy targets Basically trying to get back to what it was like in the in the late 90s back when the Pro Bowl mixed up. Yeah back to what it was like in the late 90s back when the Pro Bowl made something. Yeah. I'm sitting cave exploration because one of our Italian friends named Ottavia Piana had to be rescued by 150 people from the same cave in the Alps for the second time in two years.

Ah whoops. Maybe just stay the fuck out of that cave. Yeah don't go there. Stay out of the cave. Don't go there. My sleeper is Barry Sanders because I think you could step in for the 49ers this weekend and still run for it. Probably be a good option. Barry Sanders looks like he'd still cut her. I sleeper is Barry Sanders because I think you could step in for the 49ers this weekend It's still run for probably be a good option. Very soon. It looks like you get still cut I already Sanders easy. No, don't get political Barry Sanders. What's up fuckers? It's Dan Marino. Hey, my stardom is Sammy Sosa

He's welcome back to what are you guys wearing? Why I'm in this van. Yeah, so so Danny Why you want a little bit little dust on the table? Oh my, my syndrome is weird podcasters like you guys trying to make me feel uncomfortable in a van You didn't want to talk about OJ? Yeah, I didn't want to talk about OJ. The juice, the juice is loose. My sleeper is Josh Allen I think he's gonna score some touchdowns. Josh Allen? Needed. Also Dan Marino, victim of the historic

Jim Kelly curse. Jim Kelly curse. Jim Kelly curse Jim Kelly curse Jim Kelly curse went to the soup bowl lost it. Lot of people on that list it was surprising. Yeah a lot of guys a lot of guys. All right should we do John Gruden? Oh yeah Sammy Sosa's welcome back. The Ricketts are the worst. They basically made him apologize and then he didn't actually really say anything.

But they're like okay okay, that's good Yeah, it was the two it was the two biggest like non statements of all time And it was just like we need to shame you a dozen years for you to say I'm sorry And then he was like, I'm sorry. Yes. Okay. I did a lot of things that I regret in but I also tried really hard Yeah, the Ricketts were like we need to just it's it's shame torture and that's the only way we're gonna let you come back And it's like he had that statement welcoming back prepared and just all that needed to happen was like press one button. Yeah. And he's had that for years. Yeah. Okay. Uh, let's get to our interview with John Gruden, coach Gruden in

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The products, the packaging, you won't find better gifts for the men on your list this year. And now here's Jon Gruden. Oooooooooh! Okay, our very good friend and colleague, it's Coach Gruden back in studio. Coach, you've been at Parcel for about a month now. How we feeling? Undefeated, man.

Haven't lost the game. Great feeling. You've been so much fun to watch. I mean, is it, I feel like you're starting to get your feet under you on the internet and how this thing works, right? I'm trying. I got to do something with the righteous brothers. I got to do something with George Brett. I'm trying to cross train a little bit and get into some different things. I even made street tacos. That was kind of my claim to fame, but I am having a blast meeting some really cool people and like I said getting better as every day goes by. Yeah. Has there been anything that you've been

asked to do where you don't understand why you're doing this at all and then... Well pretty much all of it. I mean, let's say there's no, you know, you take pride in a lot of intense preparation when you're coaching. I mean, you really sit in a dark room and you plan all these different contingency plan, everything from A to Z. But I show up here, I have no idea where we're going with this show. It's a great spontaneous, creative vibe that I get from barstool. And the people love you.

You've been, you've been a massive hit. Everyone's everyone's feeling nice. You've spread nice about that. I keep saying it. Yeah, I keep saying got me feeling nice. I was in Chicago last night having dinner and one of the waiters I was at a really nice restaurant and a waiter came up says how do you like that steak Mr. Groot and I said pretty good. He goes does it have you feeling nice? That's incredible. Did anybody take your picture in the airport and then post John Grunitz in Chicago, maybe possible bears opening? There's a lot of craziness going on in Chicago right now, but we'll get into it. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So yeah, let's talk some football. Um, my first question for you, and I think this is the biggest story

that's happened in the last couple of weeks is the Detroit Lions, one of the best teams in football is now just, I mean, they got hit with insane amount of injuries on the defensive side. They lose David Montgomery as a coach. We heard Dan Campbell and he, I loved his message, which is like, look, you gotta, you know, we're gonna get punched in the mouth. We gotta get back up this good for us but as a coach like from a scheme perspective in a game plan perspective when you lose that much talent on defense what do you do what do you change because you know you're at a disadvantage going into a game it's hard I mean I admire him for speaking

publicly because your players are listening to you showing confidence and showing the manhood that it takes to fight through adversity. But I'm looking out there, Quan Alexander's playing linebacker, and I take pride in knowing the players. Jamal Adams is over there playing. These guys weren't even in the media guide. Right.

And it's hard to swallow when you lose high caliber guys. Now a couple guys are gonna come back. Yep. But when you lose Montgomery, you lose part of the identity of your team. So I do know that deep down when Coach Campbell gets in his car, he ain't feeling real nicey.

Yeah. Put it that way. Yeah. It's tough. Yeah, but you have to give the message to your team that, hey, we're not quitting. We're not waving the white flag because everyone has injuries. You've got to make guys believe that they

can step into those roles. Have you ever had a guy that, you know, you suffer a big injury, one of your star players, and then somebody has to be elevated. You know that, you know, you're going to have a little bit of a downgrade there at the position, but you have to make that guy believe that they can play like a superstar? Yeah. What do you tell that guy?

No, there's no doubt. I remember Cadillac Williams was the Rookie of the Year. We thought we had a back that would be with us forever. He tore out his patella tendon in Carolina. I remember Cadillac Williams was the rookie of the year. We thought we had a back that would be with us forever. He tore out his patella tendon in Carolina. We have a young guy, free agent, Ernest Graham, who stepped in and really played good. There are a lot of players that just need an opportunity that will step up if they're given the opportunity,

but losing a lot of good players this time of year is gonna be a real challenge for Detroit. Now they're gonna have to outscore people and they do have the firepower to do that. Yeah. And are you, are you okay with Dan Campbell? Maybe even, which is crazy to say, but I think he might even turn up the aggressiveness even more like which he's been the most aggressive, but part of the whole onsite kick, which, you know, I w our take when it happened, we're just like, Hey, if you could still do a surprise onsite kick, that would be a good spot for it. The fact you can't do surprise, maybe you don't do it. But his whole thought was their score, they're

they're scoring every single drive. We got to take at least one chance to try to get, you know, to break the serve here. That's what Sean Payton did in the Superbowl against Peyton Manning. I mean, he, Sean told me we're gonna steal the possession from these guys because we don't know if we can stop Peyton Manning and Harrison and Reggie Wayne for four quarters. So I've seen it done and I agree with you Campbell is Aggressive right and I think right now he's got to get more and more opportunities for golf Ben Johnson, they're healthy on that side of the ball minus Montgomery, but yeah, they got to do something to help outscore the opponent. Yeah, and keep the ball away from their defense on the field. Yeah. Yeah. So you mentioned Sean Payton, the job he's done in Denver is just incredible this year. What's different? Obviously the quarterback position's

changed. Boenix has been electric at times, but like from a X's and O's standpoint, is there anything that he's doing different this year as opposed to last year that you love? I think it's totally different. You remember Drew Brees and the success that they had throwing the ball. They've kind of reinvented the offense and become more of an RPO. They're doing a lot of the college stuff, honestly, with Bo Nix because he can run. Bo Nix is a factor running the ball with these zone reads, but where the Broncos have crushed it is with this defense. I call them the anonymous crush. They used to be called the orange crush because

they had a lot of recognizable guys, but I'll bet you can't name two or three Denver Broncos on their team right now other than Pat Sertan. And they're the number one scoring defense. Them and the Chargers, they're tied. They have done a hell of a job. They lead the league in sacks and nobody really knows who their sack artists are. How pissed were you about Jonathan Taylor? Pissed. That's the worst. Terrible. How does that happen?

I'm sure Taylor is sick about it. Yeah. Because if you know Taylor, he is one of the great guys we have in football and he's one of the best backs. And that was a game changer. Yeah. I mean, they got the game under control. It was a shitty night. The weather I mean they got the game under control. It was a shitty night The weather was terrible neither quarterback could throw it and for them to lose a game on that play and then compound it with the flea-flicker

Interception they got to be sick. It cost them a chance to sneak into the playoffs. Did that ever happen to you? Did any of your players ever do it? I think we had had a one time but it was overturned. We did end up getting the touchdown. Okay. You know that's a colossal mistake. Yeah. Is that a word I use? Colossal. I'm trying to use more three and four syllable words you know. Because I gotta sound smart with Fred Smoot coming in. But yeah it's crazy. It's weird how that started. Like Deshaun Jackson did one time. I don't think it had happened before that. Well, Leon let, the Leon let BB play on Thanksgiving. I think that's a little bit different

because he kind of, you know, he started celebrating early, got caught from behind, stripped of the ball. That, it makes you real mad as a coach, but you know, that type of thing happens. But just dropping the ball before you get to the end zone. What would you do to a player if they did that? Well, it's not much you can say to Jonathan Taylor. He already feels terrible Yeah, but what will happen now is in training camp every coaching staff will put that on their list of things that have happened that we need To cover so they'll probably take all the skilled guys and have them run through the end zone

You know with the ball secure run through the end zone finish the play before you celebrate But that's unfortunate and it's sickening really that it happened to Jonathan Taylor. You would rather have your guy taken unsportsmanlike penalty for like excessive taunting after the touchdown. Exactly, yeah. I'd rather him reach underneath the goalposts and have a cell phone like Joe Horn did

or T.O. with the Sharpie pen, something like that. Is there anything in the NFL that you've seen, you've been noticing over the, you know, the rules always change every year. There's something new that they, a new wrinkle point of emphasis they add in. Is there anything that you would make as a change to the way the game is either officiated

or anything just about how NFL football is going right now that you'd like to see change from a coaching perspective? You know, my biggest concern is pass interference in pro football. I would make it the college rule, honestly, because some of these pass interference calls are impacting a game. Just one play there, and I don't think

there's a common thread in what is and what isn't pass interference. I think this crew calls it a little different than that crew, and that is a penalty right now that is, I think, taking over a lot of these games. Yeah, it's a little hack. If you under throw think, taken over a lot of these games. Yeah. It's a little hack. If you under throw a ball just slightly, you can draw a passer fair.

It's like good quarterbacks will do that. Good wide receivers. I sat up in the booth in Monday night football with Jerry Austin. Jerry Austin wore the white hat in three Super Bowls. And our formula during the game was every penalty, Jerry would go like this. That meant it's a bad call. Yeah. And if it was a good call, Jerry would go like this. That meant it's a bad call. Yeah. And if it was a good call Jerry would go like that. So here's a penalty he would go like that. That's a bad call. I'm getting a confirmation from the ref. But anyways Jerry

Seaman or excuse me Jerry Austin taught me that pass interference should call itself. We should all be sitting in a bar in Chicago and go, that's P. I. That's how it should be a common. Yeah, obvious pass interference. Otherwise, let these guys play. Right. That's my feeling. Yeah, no, I agree. I agree. Yeah. Let the guy sitting on the couch be able to call it. I exactly. That's right. We should nail it. Instead of going to New York, we should go to Big Cat and his studio down here at Barstool. Yeah, they should have sensors hooked up to us. Something.

Give us six beers and then let 20 of us watch a game at the same time. We get a button in front of us. We all say yes or no. Then they take that data. Okay, no pass or no. I don't like the way we're protecting the quarterbacks either.

I don't know if you saw the Kirk Cousins play at the end of the Raider game the other night. But what is roughing the pass or what isn't, I think, I think we got to be a little careful there too. So you bring up Kirk cousins. Uh, I know you guys have a relationship. He obviously gets benched tough. I mean, he's the ultimate pro about it. And, uh, I think even called Michael Pennex and was like, Hey, let's, you know, shoot the elephant in the room is what he said. Uh, what do you think the future is for Kirk? Do you think he still has some years left in him? I know this is disappointing, but he also

is getting paid a lot of money. You know, he's probably going to have an opportunity now to really sit down and think about that. I wonder how healthy he truly is coming off that Achilles injury. I've seen that injury take over a year to get all the way back. But the one thing that's disappointing when I looked at the Falcons is they just never used the play-action pass. And here's Kirk Cousins. I think he threw 69 touchdown passes on play-action over the last three or four years in Minnesota. They don't even call a play-action pass with that running game with Bijon and Algiers. I don't know what they're doing offensively in Atlanta,

but it was not a good mix from the start. They started poorly against Pittsburgh. It ended poorly against the Raiders, but I know this, he's a hell of a competitor. He'll be back and they just got to figure out what to do with the contract. That's a big issue with how they loaded that contract. Yeah. Did you watch a lot of Michael Pinnix tape? I did. So what do we think about him? I know he can throw the ball to the outside.

What I like about Penick's, forget about Indiana and Washington, is I like what he did in the preseason. I really did. Now he's inexperienced. He hasn't played one snap really, meaningful snap for the Falcons, but this guy has a quick arm. He's accurate. He can really rip it down the field.

But I don't think the Falcon offensive line is playing great They have committed so many penalties holding penalties. It's ridiculous false starts The Falcons are still in this thing if they can tie Tampa they win the tiebreaker So they have to win these final couple games, but he's a talented kid I'm just anxious to see where he is with the system. Yeah, it's kind of I mean Listen, it's good that he's starting against the Giants. The Giants stink. He should have some good opportunities against them,

especially Dexter Lawrence is out for the season. But it's tough to be a rookie quarterback thrown in week 16 being like, hey, we got to win out to make the playoffs. That's a lot of pressure. It is a lot of pressure. And I think it's probably going to serve him well in the future.

Because if he does go out there and light it up against the team, they should beat, I think his teammates, you know, they'll start doing what the Washington commanders did with Daniels. You see what Denver's doing rallying behind Bo Nicks. I think the Falcons, as you said, they have shot the elephant in the room is just inevitable. You don't take a guy with the eighth pick at that position to sit for very long. Right. Yeah. So this weekend, I believe we got the 49ers and the Dolphins,

right? Yes. So both teams, disappointing seasons for each one. And it felt like a couple of years ago, two of the most dynamic, exciting offenses. Now they've kind of just gotten slow. It's not as fun of a matchup as it used to be. What do you see?

I'll ask about the Dolphins first. What do you see out of the Dolphins offense that's different now that they're kind of a little bit lackluster and whereas before they were lighting it up? They don't have a running game. They can't run the ball. I mean, last year they had Raheem Oster

had 20 touchdowns, they don't even play. A-chan's a hell of a receiver. I think in the last five games, they have run the ball for 50 yards a game or less. They just have no running game. It a finesse quick passing game and if you have the guys like Lassiter and Stingley to lock down these receivers it's hard uphill sledding but they just don't have a running game they're missing Chubb they're missing Jalen Phillips or two edge rushers and they've done a surprisingly good job on

defense yeah but I just think they don't have a balanced offense they don't run Phillips are two edge rushers and they've done a surprisingly good job on defense. Yeah. But I just think they don't have a balanced offense. They don't run the ball and it's all on Tua and that's hard to do weekend and week out. I also think Tyreex may be on the wrong side of 30 and it's a little different where it's not, he's still explosive, but he hasn't been that game you know, game breaker of no one knows what to do with him. And it is obviously the running game as well, but they, you know, it's a little one steps a little bit slower and it can change it. You say that, Nate, that Tyree kill, he scares me, man. He burnt me. He put me into my grave,

that guy, but you know, their left tackle Armstead's out. He doesn't play the right tackle. Jackson gets hurt. They put in Kenda Lam, he gets hurt. They're playing their third string right tackle. So I'm sure Coach McDaniels is like, man, we gotta throw the quick game. We don't have the horses up front to run the ball. And it's caught up with them. It's been tough.

On the other side of that, Brock Purdy, they're gonna have to make a decision about Brock Purdy pretty soon and what the contract is gonna be for him. Is he a guy that you would pay? Or would you look to the draft free agency? No, I'd Brock Purdy pretty soon and what the contract is going to be for him. Is he a guy that you would pay or would you look to the draft free agency? No, I'd pay Purdy. You've already developed the guy. He covered your ass, man.

If it wasn't for Brock Purdy, none of these things that are good in San Francisco happen. We'd be talking about Trey Lance. They gave him three first round picks for Trey Lance. They get the guy in the last pick of the draft that allows you to get him out of here and put this kid in. He hasn't made any money and he's taking you to Super Bowls. He's a winner, missing Trent Williams. McCaffrey has not been right the whole season.

I don't know what happened to Debo really. And Iook has been out. He's getting old as well. And you talk about a team that's lost players. Kyle Shanahan has lost a lot of players on both sides of the ball, but I would definitely keep Purdy. Well, I'm an owl man Who am I gonna get?

Pretty in this draft, but are you now about Sam Darnold? How about Sam Darnold Baker Mayfield? I mean, here's two guys that have reinvented themselves I know I use that word a lot, but that's what you have to do in this business that have reinvented themselves. I know I use that word a lot, but that's what you have to do in this business. You know, Sam Darnold, you gotta pay Sam Darnold. Well, we got JJ McCarthy. Well, you gotta be out of your mind to let Sam Darnold.

You're 12 and two, man. How much better could your quarterback play than what Sam has played this year? I don't know. That guy can run for first downs. He's a horse. He's young. If you let Sam Darnold out of there,

you're making a real mistake. Okay, I wanted to ask a question about the Debo thing because it kind of is like Tyree Kale. As a coach, when you see a player maybe lose a slight step, do you have a conversation with them or is it do you start game planning a little different where it's like, hey, we know this guy is maybe not exactly what he used to be. Let's figure out a way to work for his strengths here so we can still get a lot out of them. Yeah. I mean, you help a guy maintain his impact somehow, some way. Jerry writes, Tim Brown, I had those guys on the same, same team. They were deep into their thirties, but there's so many things these great players can do. You have to tap into some different

areas. Right. But when I look at Tyreek, he does have the wrist injury and that's a serious injury that he's playing through He's gonna have to have surgery after the season and his best part of his game is going down the field, right? And when you throw these down the field deep ends and deep daggers and special seams the quarterbacks got a drop back and hold The ball. Yeah, but Miami doesn't do that. I mean, almost every pass he runs, route he runs is inside of 10 yards. Oh yeah, it's disgusting Washington.

You know, I'm watching Tyreek Hill and I'm like, man, I wish he would have run those routes against us. Yeah, I think he hasn't caught a 30 yard pass since week one, I think. Yeah, well last week they tried the wrong corner twice. Yeah, Stingley. And Derrick Stingley was covering Tyreek and made a couple great plays, but you're right, they gotta, I think somehow get him to be a factor down the field again. Yeah, sticking in that division, we're friends with Josh Allen.

We love the Buffalo Bills. We're part of Bill's Mafia, I think, maybe honorary part. Haven't gone through a table yet, but we love Buffalo. And it feels like this might be the year for them the way that Josh is playing. Do you think that this is their best chance that they've ever had this year? I do. I mean, I'm worried about their defense. Their defense made me mad the other day.

Now, I understand when they went to the Rams and gave up 44 points on a short week. And I know against Detroit, they're missing both their safeties now. Rapp didn't play. Hamlin didn't play. Rasul Douglas didn't play at corner. But they couldn't stop Detroit or LA. They couldn't stop anything the last two weeks. I believe to have a

championship team you have to have a quarterback playing winning football and you got to have a fourth quarter pass rush. What bothered me is they let golf keep going down the field and down the field. They could stop Detroit either. And I'm waiting for Von Miller and Rousseau and Oliver to close these games out I mean, you know golf is throwing it every play. I was expecting to see a lot more Passrush impactful pass rushes hits on the quarterback in Saxon. I've seen it's why it's why the Chiefs Chris Jones Every how many times have we seen a playoff game where it's fourth quarter Chris Jones makes a game breaking play on a third down and you know there's

a fumble or a big sack and it's like it's like Charles Haley the Charles Haley you know he was the closer for the 49ers when he goes to Dallas he's the closer for the Cowboys. You got to have guys that can end the game when golf has the ball inside of two minutes my homes has the ball inside of two minutes, my homes has the ball inside of two minutes, you got to close these quarterbacks out. This is Dwight Franey. Dwight Franey, fourth quarter, hasn't done the spin move all game, guess what? You're getting the spin move. That's my new money segment. I bought this chain, it's like a three million dollar chain with diamonds, it's got a big money

thing on it. I'm gonna put my necklace on. We used to call it the green team. So at the end of the game, we would send out our green pass rush team, sap, Simeon rice and Marinelli, our D line coach would put the other two guys out there. Greg Spires, Ellis whims, whoever our money pass rushers were. So I'm going to put together my green team, pass rush. Oh, the guys making money. Yeah. I love that. Who would be your two ends? Who would be your two defensive tackles in today's game? Who would be your green team that you would send out there in the fourth quarter?

That's a good question. But it definitely be Chris Jones on side. Probably Dexter Lawrence inside. You'd probably look at Miles Garrett, TJ Watt. TJ has a knack for doing that in the fourth quarter. That's when he's going to get a strip sack in. Max Crosby. Don't forget my guy gonna get a strip sack in Max Crosby Don't forget my guy. Yeah, I get Max Crud. I ever comes off the field. Yeah. Yeah, he wouldn't be on

He's on every team not just the green team But I think as you watch the games this weekend think about these two-minute Situations yeah and look at the pass rush unit that's out there and look at that as the the green team the greens We used to use a timeout Warren Sapp taught me this He's the first guy that ever pointed this out to me because I'm not real smart. He's like. We used to use a timeout. Warren Sapp taught me this. He's the first guy that ever pointed this out to me because I'm not real smart. He's like, hey, can I use a timeout? Think about this, we're playing Detroit.

They have the ball, they got a chance to go down and win the game. And Warren says, can I take a timeout to rest? Because what happens is he's past rushers, they rush, they go back. They rush, they go back. Rush, they get tired. And when the ball's incomplete, they tap out, they bring in a fresh rusher. Well, you're bringing in a fresh rusher for Warren sap

It's not warren sap. So warren sap takes a time out. We get us some gatorade We go out there and fan them off BAM sacks the next place See, so you got to think about that a little bit I think you got to have guys that can heat up the quarterback without blitzing You gotta have guys that can heat up the quarterback without blitzing. Use your seven men in some kind of coverage and let these four guys eat up front. But think about taking a time out for your defensive rushers to rest and think about who the money pass rushers are at the end of the game. It is so true that you kind of forget it where teams will, over the course of the year, there will be teams that blitz more and you know, they'll put up great numbers on defense. Like, but at the end of the day, when he gets to playoffs, you gotta be able to do it with four. You can't, you can't just, you can't just always expect to be able to blitz your way out of stuff. Well, it sure helps. I mean, you got to disguise

coverages, you know, you gotta stop Kelsey, you gotta stop, you know, worthy over here. You gotta stop all these weapons, the back coming out of the backfield. You need men in coverage to do that. Yeah. A lot of times when you blitz my homes or you blitz Josh Allen, you might as well blow your brains out. Are you serious? They see it. They change the protection. They hand signal the routes and they just thread it in there, man. Yeah. So they take off because no, you know, exactly. And yeah. So we're taking this early on Thursday. You hate Thursday night football. I do hate Thursday. Okay. I yeah. So we're taking this early on Thursday. You hate Thursday night football. I do hate Thursday. Okay. Now they're playing Wednesday. Yeah. Now they're playing Wednesday.

From your perspective, because you obviously were, you know, you lived it playing Thursday night football. Why did you hate Thursday night football from a coach's perspective and just a quality perspective? Well, you asked me if I could put in a couple plays with the Barstool team. Yeah. And I'm anxious to do that. Yeah. Well it's going to take a little time. So you guys are going to have to have a little time on the practice field to learn 682 and 683 diesel, 76 and 77 special. I'm even going to put in a couple other routes just to check you guys so we can have a little bit of versatility in our office. But on a short week you really don't get any time to practice. You don't get any time to really familiarize

yourself with the opponent's blitzes, the coverages that they run, the stunts that they run up front. You don't get a chance to study their red zone defense, their third down defense. You don't get a chance to look at them in goal line and short yardage. So there's very little preparation and these guys are beat up man. I don't like seeing these guys play 61 snaps on Sunday and then have to go play 68 snaps on Thursday. Yeah. It bothers me. I don't mind doing it on Thanksgiving. I think it's a wonderful thing. But I do believe when you're playing Thursday football, there's very little preparation. There's very little time to recover and it's gonna take its toll on the performance. Yeah.

You know, you just don't show up. This is not Major League Baseball where we can play a doubleheader and go out and play here. It's not the NBA. No disrespect. But this is a lot of physical contact, man. And a lot of these guys are hurting. They are really sucking it up right now to play. Especially this, this point in the season, week 16, like I, I, I agree with you. The, I love Thursday night football. I wish they'd figure out a way to do a double buy during the season. So you could get more Thursday to third, you know, like a team plays on a

Thursday and they get, you know, extended rests or there's buys or so, you know, you play it, your, your double buy ends up being your Thursday night game after that, so you get a little more fresh teams out there. But the teams playing on Christmas and Saturday this week, they're playing three games in 11 days at the end of the season. That's crazy.

Well, it is crazy. And you've got to protect, I mean, I don't want to watch a playoffs if like some of these guys, you know, Patrick Holmes or Lamar Jackson isn't playing. Exactly. Hell, I look at major league baseball, they won't even let the pitcher pitch nine innings. They're worried about his arm getting sore, you know, but you're right. How would you like to be a 12 and one team like the Chiefs

and lose a couple players for the first round of the playoffs because they get hurt in one of these games that they're playing in three, you know, an 11 day period. But is this microphone work? I make sure I can say this clearly. I hate Thursday football, especially when you got to be the road team. And when they make you fly into a different time zone on a Thursday, it's ridiculous to me. I think you got to be really honest and careful with how you look at the performances on Thursday night Yeah, and we saw an awful game last Thursday night this time of year It seems like the product gets worse

Well, they say that you know, they're the two best offensive coaches in the game Yeah, McVeigh and Shanahan and the season really is on the line for the 49ers, right? And here's the Rams trying to get back in and take control the division and it's 12 to 6. Yeah You know so it was tough. Yeah. So with the Barstool team, if you're installing plays for us, you've got to know a lot of people here. And it's been fun watching you interact.

Do you think that you've got a, do you have a starting 11 in your mind? No. OK. I really didn't see a lot of talent the last time I was here. There was a lot of guys. I don't think that's fair.

Had great attitudes. It's going to be a tough job. Do you know quarterback, most important position? I don't think that's fair had great attitudes. It's gonna be a tough job Do you know quarterback most important position? I? Don't I don't know who that is the girl. I can't remember her first name Megan Megan Megan. Yes an arm She had an arm. I think she's coachable. Yeah, okay. What about me and big cat? You're gonna be my F big cat. It's gonna be the Y. He's gonna be the tight end nice Okay, let's go a little size. Yeah. F is fullback?

You're going to be my slot receiver basically. Okay. Shifty guy. Love it. You might be the quarterback though. I did see some promise. I came in I think last place in our quarterback challenge. Okay, you're out.

You're the F. Yeah. I'm like Julian Edelman. You see me as I was a quarterback before, but I get to the league. You're going to have to run the special seam. So I just want to see if you can recognize cover to single high and then convert it versus man. You got to do a few things on the special scene. Or what about Max? Max has a broken foot, but imagine he didn't have a broadcast. I casted right away.

Max was going to be the center. He looks like Kelsey. Yeah. Oh, man. He just made his day. He's going to be my center and he can snap today. Yeah, he can. He absolutely can. All right. today. Yeah, he can he absolutely can all right in the NFC I have some teams that I think could win like it feels wide open What teams could you conceivably see winning the Super Bowl in the NFC right now? That is tough I think I have five I want to say Detroit because they can really finish you with the running game They've lost so many players. It's hard.

I want to say Minnesota because they have a great skill set. When you look at the emergence of Addison, the return of Hawkinson and with the great Justin Jefferson, I think Aaron Jones is excellent. Darnold's playing well and they're playing solid defense and they're kicker. He doesn't have a lot of experience, but he makes all his kicks. I like Minnesota. I still think Green Bay is very dangerous.

They got a quarterback that's got a lot of talent, man. They can run the ball and they do have some pass rushers. Edgeren Cooper is a guy to keep an eye on. He came back off that injury. They're a rookie from Texas A&M, really good against Seattle. And I think Green Bay's dangerous. Um, I think Minnesota, I like Detroit, but other than that, I'm no Philly. Philly. You gotta, I gotta put Philly in there. You gotta put Philly. I think Philly is probably the favorite. Yeah. You gotta put Philly in there.

And what about, I mean the bucks and the Rams, that's the thing. That's anybody's game. Do you think, like, the Tampa Bay Bucs, in your mind, obviously there's teams that are more talented than overall, but I do think the way Baker's playing, they're unafraid and they can go anywhere and they can, I mean, listen, they've beaten the Lions, they've beaten the Eagles, like, that's a team to me that I'm not gonna I'm not gonna say

they're they're they're the favorite or anything to get to the Super Bowl but it wouldn't shock me if we're in sitting in New Orleans and the Bucs have made a crazy run and they've and they've had a couple upsets and they're sitting there playing it on in February I've been saying this for a long time I mean not not bullshit neither I mean Baker May this for a long time. I mean, not, not bullshit neither. I mean, Baker Mayfield is a real quarterback now. He's playing great. Yeah.

And the emergence of this Bucky Irving, have you seen this kid play? Yeah. I mean, he's a combination of Warke Dunn, Napoleon Kaufman, Charlie Garner. He is a bad ass man. This guy's a hell of a back. Tampa Bay was 32nd in rushing offense the last two years

They couldn't run out of the stadium now. They're a top 10 rushing team They're balanced Mike Evans is is a complete stud Hall-famer and Todd Bulls No one gives Bulls any credit man. This guy's a hell of a defensive coach They just went to the Chargers and kicked their ass Yeah They are they are a dangerous football team because of their balance on offense and experience defensive head coach. And McLaughlin makes big field goals.

So I do like Tampa and I like Philly. This Philadelphia Eagle defense, man, Vic Fangio's got a couple rookies in the secondary. DeGene and Mitchell playing great. They got a lot of second year players, Carter and Nolan Smith. This N'Kobe Dean, this Zach Bond guy comes over from New Orleans. and Mitchell playing great. They got a lot of second-year players, Carter and Nolan Smith. This N'Kobe Dean, this Zach Bond guy

comes over from New Orleans. They're good, man. What is it about a Vic Fangio defense? What is he preaching that makes it so hard because he's a great defensive coordinator? We've seen it time and time again, but what is it about his defenses? They don't give up big plays, number one.

They know where their help is. They know how to play leverage, they know how to play and eliminate big plays. They don't take unnecessary, stupid risks. They're hard to run against. They just do an excellent job taking away your strength and making you play left-handed. Right. And they're a ball possession offense. They run the ball more than anybody, so they're not out on the field You know 80 plays a game right? They don't have to play a whole lot of snaps I worry about the Eagles pass rush depth a little bit Huff is out

They just lost Brandon Graham for the season and I told you about that money pass rush. Yeah, I can't wait to see the money chain Yeah, so you know we're dead every week. I'm gonna well when I talk about my green team, so I'm gonna get some glasses like you I got you know, I got those $12, you know flip. These are shady rays We can get you a little better set than that. I might need to get some shady I'm worried about the Eagle Green team a little bit. Yeah, so with with Houston They've been kind of weird this year because last year it felt like their offense was way more explosive. Felt like they were dynamic, exciting.

It feels like it's taken a little step back this year. Is this, has it been concerning to you to watch the development of that offense? I thought they'd be a lot better. Their offensive line has been disappointing to me. They had 41 sacks allowed going into last week's game. Not only sacks, I mean, Stroud, if you look at the pro football focus,

all the charts and stats, he's been pressured more than any guy in the league. This guy's been knocked down, he's been sacked, he's had the shit beat out of him. And I just don't feel, I don't feel the rhythm of their passing game at all. Yeah, and their boomer bust on rush. They really are.

I went and looked at it because we're gonna do our weekend preview for PMT this afternoon but it was like Joe Mixon was like 110 yards, 20 yards, 120 yards, 15 yards. Like he either is going off or it's nothing. Yeah, he didn't run the ball at all against Miami. Yeah, it's not for the fake punt last week. They don't really score much in Houston either. Yeah, but it's it's a problem

because some of those linemen, I mean Howard at right tackle tonsil at left tackle. They've got a lot of investments in that line, but they haven't picked up blitzes when they stunt the line. They haven't picked up stunts and it's impacted Stroud. He's off schedule right now. And I know they're missing Stefan Diggs, but Nico Collins is back. They got a pretty good tight end. I just, I just don't feel the rhythm. Yeah. You gotta have a little rhythm to the past. Yeah. There's no flow to it at all. We talked last time when we were watching, we were doing the

live stream of the Thursday night football commander's Eagles. I heard that you didn't know that the cameras were on for that whole thing. No, I had no idea they would film all of that. Yeah, we were just live. We were just live the whole time. But I'm going to let it rip tonight anyway. Yeah, you were great. No, people loved you. And we had the conversation about the analytics where you were like, there's some, you know, some nerd that's in your ear telling you, Hey, go for it,

go for it, go for it. Um, and then you mentioned like pro football focus and some of the people that do, you know, you, hey, go for it, go for it, go for it. And then you mentioned like pro football focus and some of the people that do the talent evaluation. Do you feel the same way about those guys, the outside like third parties, the grade players, as you do about the numbers guys that are in your ear during your game? I love the pro football focus

because it gives me a starting point. They say, hey, PFT is playing great. PFT is playing great. So okay, I go in there, I say, let me see him play great. Big Cat's had a shitty game. So I like to go back and see for myself. A lot of times you might disagree with

the guy that graded the film. Maybe you got the sack against you, but maybe when you look at the tape, I might say, nah, it wasn't his fault. But for the most part, these guys are pretty solid man But it does give me a pretty good gauge of where to start my studies You know in terms of I like to see it before I say it. Yeah. Yeah By the way, we I can announce this now we talked about our schedule coming up, but

Coach is gonna be with us for wild card weekend a Divisional round. So we're going to do streams Saturday and Sunday. That's awesome. You're going to be with us in the gambling cave. I'm so excited to watch football with you. You guys use artificial intelligence? No.

We know about it, but we don't use it. Yeah. Why? I've been using it. See, I'm trying to- You're using it high? Well, like when a quarter, let's say you're a right guard. Okay.

And you blow an assignment and the back gets hit in the face for a three yard loss. And you're the same right guard that whiffs in pass protection. And then you're the same right guard that jumps off sides. And you come over to the sideline, I will probably say, what the fuck are you doing, big cat? So I send that into artificial intelligence to see

what should I say to my guard when he jumps off side, whips it past your text. And some of the responses are pretty good. It becomes a PG-13 way of ripping a right guard. Same thing with ripping a referee. Or when the owner comes in and starts calling you names after you lose a game, threatening to fire you, what should my response be? Yeah, right. And when you listen to artificial intelligence, you're gonna say this might be the greatest invention ever.

That's great. Yeah. So have you ever had an owner say, I'd like for you guys to practice during the bye week? Oh yeah. I mean, now there's rules, you see. The collective bargaining agreement puts sanctions on what a coach can and can't do so that's what makes it difficult yeah how do you manage that because ultimately the owner is your boss right they sign your paychecks you serve at at you know their discretion

but then your job is also to just manage an entire you got like two separate jobs almost like one is running the team and then the other is also to just manage an entire, you got like two separate jobs almost. Like one is running the team and then the other is presenting a case of how you're running the team to the owner when things get bad. So how do you juggle those two things? Well, I just use the practice field as my laboratory. You know, you want to take advantage of all the time

that you have to practice. You may not need as much practice as you need. So you might take the bye week and let some of your young guys get some reps because it is a long season. You might wanna install a couple new schemes. A lot of guys just say, hey, you're out. Get out of the building for the whole week.

And sometimes a collective bargaining agreement makes you let the players be loose for X amount of days. But I like watching teams in pregame warmup. Some teams are working hard in pregame warmup. They're, they're developing players during pregame. Some coaches are just putting their headphones on and they're jogging around the stadium. But when you're trained, I think under Al Davis, like I was, you're pretty much trained to use every second that you have to train somebody in some way. That's interesting. Yeah. Using, using the pregame warm-up almost as an extra practice. An extra period, an individual period. Look at it that way. Don't go out there thinking it's a

bullshit dance lesson, you know what I mean? Yeah, how much did Al love speed? How much was he like, that guy is so fast? He talked about Raider bodies. He would see a lineman at the combine, he'd say, that guy's got a Raider body. And our scouts were looking for Raider bodies. He would see alignment at the combine He'd say that guy's got a Raider body and our scouts were looking for Raider bodies defensive linemen had to have length Corners had to have length and speed Twitchiness, but he loves speed, you know, he modeled his team Size speed the one thing about the Raiders. We had a good-looking team man Yeah, every year where we got off the bus when Al was

around. Yeah, fact. All right. I got one last question for you, coach. It's been awesome. It's row back question, R H O B a c k.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase cues, his polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, promo code, take row back.com. You got hip surgery. How's the new hip and how's the golf game? Pretty good. Yeah. you know, I'm glad you brought this up because Working at bar stool you get the chance to meet other people. So when the guys came down My hip held up pretty good. Yeah golf me and trent put a whoop ass on those guys. Yeah

Yeah, we did it felt pretty good. Yeah, it felt nice. Yeah It did I hit some good drives? I never really Snipered one at all was down the middle Trent made a couple clutch plays Yeah, and a lot of had to do with great coaching, you know Trenton I we kind of had this synergy going here. Yeah, it's like me and Rich Gannon again in and out of the golf But it was so much fun. We had a blast and it was a stunning upset Yeah, addicted us to win. So hips good. I like your strategy on the golf course too, which is just every hole is a par five Yeah, you know what that kind of lowers my standards a little bit because I do know I haven't played a whole lot of golf

Because of my you know coaching background, but if I shoot 86 at a nice course like where we play that's that's pretty good round It's respectable. That's fun. Is there anybody at Barstool that you want to fight? Are you do you have an enemy yet? No, okay Yeah, you're only on like week two of working with Stephen Che Stephen Chase such a buck fan It's almost kind of a weird buck. Oh He remembers things I don't even remember. Yeah. Yep. Yeah computer, dude Yeah, he knows stuff about you that you don't even know. Yeah, it's a little scary All right, well coach thank you as always always fun to have you and we're excited for the playoffs

I can't wait to watch some playoff football. Yeah, so who do you got in the AFC? Real quick. Okay, I got the bills I'll go with the bills as well. I like the bills. Yeah, I'm not gonna go against the Chiefs though Cuz they do have the defense the fourth quarter. Yeah, you know All this close ugly winning that they're doing is gonna serve them well in the playoffs They're learning how to they do all the small things right. If things go bad, but if they get that one break, they know how to take advantage. They, they, they dance on that margin just a little bit too much though. What about their offensive line? Doesn't it, aren't

you watching them and you're like, this is not sustainable? They have the best center and two guards. If you can't do better than Tooney, the center Creed Humphreys and Trey Smith at right guard. You can't do better than that. It's just a left tackle. They've had a turnstile left tackle. Hell, DJ Humphreys was playing left tackle. Yeah, the AFC to me is just, it's a little bit more clear

that it's Ravens, Chiefs or Bills. I think those are the three teams. I think the Ravens are interesting. They've improved on defense. You know what the Ravens problem is? They lead the league in penalties. They're undisciplined. I watched that Steeler Raven game, the first one, because I know they're playing Saturday.

They had 12 penalties in that game. Yeah, you can't win like that. No you can't. Especially when it's so razor-thin in the playoffs. Wouldn't you love to see Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen go at it? Who do you have as the MVP? That's what I want to know. I have Josh right now. Lamar's in the conversation. Lamar has been insane. 34 touchdown passes, three interceptions. I mean, nobody's throwing 30 touchdowns in less than five picks except for Brady and Aaron Rodgers. So that's the kind of class he's throwing the ball with. And he's got 750 yards rushing. I mean, he gets 109 yards. he passes Mike Vick for the all-time quarterback rushing title. He's had a sick statistical season. I'm sick. Yeah and of course the MVP is kind of it's just

always narratives. It was you know the big game down the stretch. Last year it was Lamar Brock Purdy and then Lamar beats Brock Purdy in week 17 and then it's Lamar. So it's, you know. Josh Allen is something else though, man. Have you ever gone out throwing a pass in the snow in the cold shitty weather with the wind blowing? Have you ever tried to do it? Yeah, of course. You see Josh Allen against the 49ers. I mean, it's like, he's in a dome. That pass he made even in Detroit. Running to his left. Well, yeah. And he just, it was like, how is this even possible?

I don't know. I'd have a hard time voting this year, but those two guys should probably both take it home Yeah, I think the fact Lamar won it last year makes it more likely that Josh is going to get it this year Yeah, yeah, you're probably right. Yeah. Okay. Well coach. Thank you as always and yeah, we can't wait to watch some football with you Same here brother. Thank you guys From overcrowded stores and flight delays to awkward family dynamics and dinner mishaps, the holidays are far from perfect, but that doesn't mean we have to lose our chill. Forgotten ingredients don't have to ruin dinner.

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Okay. Let's wrap up. We got fire fest of the week. Henry. All right. Serious fire fest time. Uh, it's probably going to take me a minute to explain too. So bear with me. I can help.

I need, well, I need, I need to give the backstory the backstory first because it made a lot of sense after in real time it didn't but to set it up I and I wanted to wait a couple weeks because I was dealing with some some of the aftermath for a couple weeks so I wanted to make sure I was good before I talked about it because it would have just made everything worse if I said it right when it happened but going back Thanksgiving I was home for break I was at a friend's house smoking a bubbler like a little bubbler bowl and this is all what I put together after the fact obviously if I realized in real time it would have been a different situation

but smoking out of a bubbler bowl and basically I lit it and basically inhaled burnt ash which went into my throat and like made my lung swollen. I did not realize this at the time That was Saturday night fast forward to Monday. It was the Browns Chargers game money on footballs Browns Broncos Yeah, apologies Browns Broncos Monday football. I Was smoking a little joint by myself and it like felt weird I again, I didn't realize it was cuz my lung was swollen, but I was like that something something's not right This doesn't feel right. I put it out, but I didn't realize it was because my lung was full but I was like that something something's not right This doesn't feel right. I put it out, but I didn't know what was going on Went inside to my condo was watching the game and I was struggling hard to breathe and I was by myself

I like we know Couldn't catch my breath and then I worked myself up into a panic where I again. I've never had a panic attack I joked about it in the beginning of show. I've never had a panic attack. I joked about it in the beginning of the show. I had never had a panic attack. So I was essentially freaking out. I had convinced myself in my head that I was, there was something like a hole or something in my lung. I was losing oxygen and that I basically was never going to be able to get this oxygen again. So I worked myself into a panic. I thought I was having a stroke because I never had a panic attack. I was like on the ground basically like thinking I was like fading away watching James throwing interception being like, this is it. I think this is it. I didn't know what to do. The

first person I called, I was like, I don't know what to do. I called Big Cat. I was like, I need to go to like urgent care. I don't know what's going going on, but like I can't, I can't breathe. I think I'm going down. And then I made my way. Big Cat was, was super helpful. He told me what Urgent Care to go to. He said, he'll meet me there. And I was like on the way to Urgent Care, you know, not necessarily a huge religious guy, you know, believing something out there, but I was like, if this is, this is not a big deal, like I'll, I'll never, you know, I'll never smoke again. I'm going to get healthy. Like this is, cause I literally thought I was, I thought I was dying. Like I thought I'll never you know I'll never smoke again I'm gonna get healthy like this is because I literally thought I was those dying like I thought I was I thought I was never gonna be able to breathe right again in my life and so shout out to big cat he met me at urgent care went through the

whole process with me they you know put me put me on the tubes and stuff and it you know turns out it was just they told me after the fact like your your lungs are swollen You're just having a panic attack everything's gonna be fine, so It was a bad couple days that I had I and I you know then I haven't smoked since so I've been having a lot Of struggles sleeping. I've gotten a lot better with it over the past three weeks I think anyone that's quit smoking weed knows the the

Anxiety that kind of comes with that and like the the dreams and crazy dreams and like bad sleep That's gotten a lot better in the past three weeks. So I'm kind of through it and I feel good. I feel healthy But yeah, it was a it was a long month of December And it was it was weird to not talk about it But I feel good anyone that's had panic attacks probably can understand what I was going through I never had a panic attack and I think obviously if I had realized I was having a panic attack I would have been like dude you're having a panic attack it's gonna be fine but I thought I had a heart attack slash stroke and was never gonna breathe again and like was gonna

die watching James Winston watching Monday which would be an okay yeah yeah so it's a post it's a post mostly fire fest but it was yeah it was bad um can I do the funny stories now okay now again like I had anxiety about it for a while and I knew if I talked about it AWLs are gonna be like oh you know they were gonna make they're gonna tell me stuff that was gonna make me yeah more anxious about it so I wanted to wait until I was in a good place to talk about it but yeah yeah so I have to wait until I was in a good place to talk about it. Yeah, so I have some funny stories. I was with Hank in the ER for about four hours until like 2 a.m. It was, so let's start from my perspective. I was at home. I was actually,

I had just gotten ready for bed and Hank called me and he doesn't usually call me at like, it was like 1030 at night and I was like, oh shit something must be wrong Hank was nice enough to be like oh, I thought to call big cat right away cuz he's like the adult my life That's not actually what happened. He called me and asked me if my wife knew what er She he should go to so he was like my only adult the only adult my life is not big cats big cats wife So she she helped us and was like I go here It actually was the same one I had gone for my kidney stone. So I knew where it was. I Get there. I

Was nervous. I was legit like because the way you described it like I was this is scary Like you can't breathe breathing thing a breathing thing So Hank Hank had a little shame afterwards of being like, wow, I overreacted. You don't fuck around with not being able to breathe. Like Hank couldn't even, he was, he couldn't speak either. He was whispering because he couldn't get enough breath to actually like talk loudly. It was like a cycle that kept reinforcing itself too, because you had, you had the actual lung injury and then you had the panic attack and one of the symptoms of that is thinking that you can't breathe. Correct. So it's like the lung injury was feeding into your panic attack

of being like, I'm never going to have any more oxygen ever again, which makes everything worse. Yeah. And I had tried to like, I thought it was like I got something stuck in my stroke. I had given myself 45 minutes when I was home to like, this is fine. Something stuck in your throat.

You know, just like I was trying to you know Cough it out and stuff and nothing was happening, and I that's when I worked myself into a panic of like Yeah, yeah, so we get there and I was very nervous because I was like yeah I'm gonna meet you there because I like you don't he didn't have anyone to go with and that's so Fucked up thing to have to go to the emergency room by yourself and just be alone in the emergency room so we get there You have to go to the emergency room by yourself and just be alone in the emergency room. So we get there We check in he has his they did like an EKG on him right away And that's when I started to calm down because I was like, alright, they said that he's he's breathing. Okay It's something else, but it's breathing. Okay, so I was like, alright

He's this is this is gonna at least not like he's not being rushed off with like the compressors and everything We check in. I did say they asked, I was his emergency contact and they're like, how do you know him? And I said, best friend. And the one was like, okay, like, why would you tell me that? We went, we went back. So we went back into the emergency. We got it. We, he checked in, we got everything checked in. He's like, all right, he's not going to not gonna die right away waited a few minutes he had to go get MRI so we go all the way back he has to get in the gown everything we're sitting there and the guy the nurse male nurse walks in it's like a sitcom yeah

he just goes oh shit Hank we like popped his head in there was a curtain he like popped his head in it was just like what's up guys? Oh my god. Oh shit Hank. Can I help you? You had like tubes? Yeah. Yeah, so the shout out our male nurse He actually gave me two lunchables. That was probably or uh Uncrustables that was probably too much, but whatever I ate him. Uh, so shout out our guy. He took care of us Well, he was very very nice, but it was very it was just like creamer walking in the yeah Like it was it was so perfect perfect he was just like oh shit Hank and then he looked at me he's like oh what are you guys doing here it's like well we're having a fucking problem if you listen to the part of my take on

that Wednesday you can probably tell that Hank's voice is not like all the way there yes you were but you gridded out you got through it but yeah you were you were not in a good place at that point no and I'm glad I'm glad that it's nothing serious that you're able to, are you ever, wait, are you ever gonna smoke again? I think I'm gonna stop, I'm not gonna say I'm never gonna smoke again.

I haven't smoked and I think I've kinda quit the habit. I'm sure there will be times like with other people. I think my plan is to quit smoking alone and like only smoke, you know, special occasions. Nice, only when you drink. Yeah. Maybe no more. Only when James is throwing interceptions no more bubblers Yeah, no more bubblers and no more no more lonely stoner. Okay And then so there's a couple other moments that were ridiculous one

I was happy I was there not only to be with Hank, but also I was kind of acting as maybe his not decision-maker but like hey, maybe because they were like hey do you want some anxiety medicine? And Hank was like, No. And then I went in the hallway. I was like, Yeah, we need that. Like, this could be a this could be it. So and then the woman comes in, the doctor comes in doctor was a woman, no big deal. And was like, we're gonna put you through some breathing exercises, to see how like your your lungs are working and Hank and I both are so stupid

We thought like she was gonna make him start like singing and stuff like yeah Like the pregnancy ones yeah, that's what I started getting embarrassed. Oh, no Yeah, butch again like it was I was like thinking to myself for like the two hours when I thought it was bad I was like just please let it not be a big deal So and then about 45 minutes after I took the medicine I was like, I feel good like and then I was like, oh shit Yeah, I this was a panic attack. Yeah, I was a little embarrassed, but I Like I did give the like please let this not be a big deal and I promise I'll change my ways and I have but It's like I was I was happy but embarrassed when the medicine big deal and I promise I'll change my ways and I have but it's like I was I was

Happy but embarrassed when the medicine kicked in and I was like, oh if I felt like this I never would have came here I'm fine. And I was like, oh, yeah, it was just yet the anxiety medicine calmed you down and you're fine Yeah, so I mean once he once he did the breathing exercise the anxiety medicine was maybe like two in the morning And I was like Hank was like I think I'm good like you should go and I was like, alright, you sure I was like, yeah, you should go and I was like, alright I'll leave like let me know if you need anything and I was thanking the nurse the AWL nurse As I was leaving and then I go walk down the hallway in this girl stops me and she's like, hey Are you big cat? And I was like, yeah, and she's like, oh, are you big cat? And I was like, Oh, yeah. And she's like, Oh, I recognize your voice from down

the hallway. And I was like, Oh, cool. And she's like, Yeah, my boyfriend is a huge listener of your guys podcast. Can you say hi to him? I was like, I thought she was gonna pull out her phone or something. And she's like, Yeah, he's right there. He just got hit by a car. It's a fucking hate of you. You might have a broken leg just laying out like, What's up, dude? He's like, oh, hey, what's up? Imagine being that guy you get into a car accident You're in the hospital and then big cat just like pokes his head at John Cena. You think you're gonna die. What up, dude?

Yeah, we should start doing that going around to Emergency rooms are just asking for dudes between the age of 18 and 40. Hey, we're here to cheer you up I've been thinking about that guy. He was probably expecting us to talk about it right away I hope he's doing okay. That's suck that you got hit by a car, dude But yeah, I hope you're okay. Yeah, but yeah, I mean end of the day I was I was I was nervous for Hank I'm happy he's fine It was definitely a moment where I was like I was saying the same prayers in my ride over being like he better be okay perspective perspective and and and yeah, like, you know, you guys were super super helpful throughout the whole Two weeks aftermath and it just you know, like literally you guys are the most important people in my life and that just kind of reinforced

It's a little serious, but yeah, yeah happy. I'm happy. I'm good and and The dunking thing it didn't work out But it was a good like good it helped the focus of like You know and when when I was home by myself I was like just get on the treadmill throw a bunch of layers and walk for like an hour and a half and just like Stay out of my apartment and just kind of like distract myself. So and it was a good distraction. You did improve a lot Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you need us Are we do we want to say that you didn't talk we could say it. It's a I mean Okay. All right. Well, you won't know about the gonna, do we wanna say that you didn't dunk? We could say it, I'd say it, I mean.

Okay. All right, well you won't know about the shooting thing. The shooting thing is really, yeah Hank didn't dunk, okay? We'll post the video. I was, I, I, I. He wasn't even close. I was kinda close. There was one where you got your, your, part of your fingers above the rim.

That was impressive. I gasped. The full video will be at the end. Yeah, yeah, but you weren't. Part four of the PMT doc that releases next week and that will be with the shooting with us very special Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah Okay, yeah, I'm happy you're live Hank. Yeah, I was very scared you guys were there for me. Thank you That's friend on emergency contact somewhere. Also one extra one

There's like every, every, every hospital has an app now where you can just sign up the app. Yeah. And, and you get the alerts. And my wife was texting me through, when I got there with Hank, she's asking for updates and stuff. She's like, you should sign him up for the app so that he can get the alerts. And I was like, okay, cool, cool. I will. And I signed him up. I went through, I took his phone and I went through like this entire like 10-minute process of signing him up for the app all His information and stuff. I just signed him up for the wrong hospital. So he got no alerts. He just has an app

So if you ever like if you ever need to go that one though, you're good. Yeah panic attacks. No joke either I would probably be of the camp beforehand where I was like panic attack like just fucking yeah, don't be a bitch That shit is no joke. Yeah, I have a newfound respect for panic attacks I'm sure there's a lot of AWS that have gone through similar things and that's where I was like I didn't want I knew I know people are gonna reach out to me and I knew that it was going to Like I was having a lot of anxiety afterwards for like a week or two So I knew people reaching out and telling me you know what, what to do or what they've experienced was going to make it worse. So that's why I wanted to wait. It was smart. That's no joke. Yeah. Yeah. Love all you guys. Uh,

all right. PFT. All right. So I, I did not know that Hank was going to be doing the serious one today. Um, but I also have some news somewhat seriously, but it's good news. Okay. but it's like kind of the same health scare thing Hank knows what I'm talking about because you were there for it oh yeah holy shit I know we're doing this wait what because I got the news on Tuesday so I guess I'll back up to the start Hank and I went to this was fucked thank you yeah shit. We're doing all this I just got back on his day and I'm pumped about boys been down Yeah, so we go to Sturgill Simpson show back in October, right?

We go we have I think two beers before the show go inside And after about like three hours of the concert because he played for like the longest set up standing up standing up It was it was an awesome awesome. And then after about like, what would you say? Like two and a half hours? There was, I literally was like, this has to be over soon. I remember and someone was like, it's probably 15 minutes left. So it was probably two hours and 50 minutes. Yeah. So it was a long time to be standing there. Um,

I start to like focus on my breathing cause I'm having problems breathing. Next thing I know I'm on the ground. Chaps is stabilizing my neck. Hank is trying to like block me out so that like people aren't staring at me or whatever. I just passed out, hit my head on the ground. And I got taken to the like backstage area at the salt shed, great people at the salt shed. And they ran me through like a bunch of tests, check my blood pressure, which is like super, super low. And, uh, Hank, I don't remember that much about being in that room other than

being very, very confused about what was happening. Um, but Hank was saying that I kept saying, I don't think my head's hurt. Meanwhile, I was rubbing my head and wincing the entire time. Uh, so I'm there with Hank chaps and Donnie and I'm trying to figure out they're like, do you want to go to the hospital or not? And I felt like I was getting better. So I was like, nah, just, just get me home. I just need to figure out they're like do you want to go to the hospital or not? And I felt like I was getting better. So I was like, no, just just get me home I just need to be home. So eventually we left and I was trying to think like what the hell is going on

I didn't get I wasn't hammered. I took one hit of weed and a cigarette a close cigarette and I might have had like a Small dose of mushrooms small dose of small dose. It was it was a it wasn't it wasn't my joint But I also it was like a keef joint so it was like a little bit more Elevated yeah hit of weed too so that I think played a fact and shout out to the people backstage at the salt We're not drug guys. No, we're not They're like yeah, we've seen like three other people pass out tonight So I was they try to make me feel better like I'm not the only one. Yeah, so I

other people pass out tonight. So I was, they try to make me feel better. Like I'm not the only one. Yeah. So I, they tell me like, go to the hospital, go to the cardiologist and get checked out and just make sure that everything's cool. So, um, I scheduled an appointment, went to the cardiologist and they saw like something on the EKG and they were like, we're going to schedule you for like every heart test known to man. So I was wearing, I've been wearing a portable heart monitor under my shirt for like a month. Uh, I guess I was like a month and a half now. And then

they put me through like a, uh, a calcium scan. They put me through, um, like a ultrasound of my heart. All this shit gave me all these tests. And then the full body, the full EKG came back and he was like, yeah, I see like there's a couple blips on here, but it's nothing to be worried about. I'm like, OK, all right. Fair enough. I get an email like a day later and it says on the EKG printout, possible heart attack. Oh, yeah. I remember you telling me this. And it didn't say the words heart attack, but it said possible infarction or whatever. And I'm looking at this like, what the fuck does that mean? I look it up and it says heart attack.

So I had to call my doctor and he was like, yeah, I think the software just read it wrong. I don't think he had a heart attack, but we're going to schedule more tests. So then I do more tests. And then I go in last Friday, I go and I do a stress test on a treadmill when they had me hooked up to everything. And then they looked at that. That was the last thing they were going to look at. And just the blips on there was like no big deal.

It's like if you haven't had enough sleep sometimes. If you had like too many cups of coffee, sometimes it'll make that show up. But basically, they were trying to figure out if I had like a leaky heart for the last like month and a half. But you don't. But I don't. And I got the results back on Tuesday. So in the clear on that one.

Again, like Hank Hank not to get serious But yeah, it's been it's been a month and a half long fire. Yeah. Yeah, that was scary. Yeah. Yeah Hank call I got all called me that night. It was like a PFT. Yeah, my dad art. Yeah also Cushion yeah, I'd never passed out before but it's scary to pass out But I guess the real fire fest and all this can we can I say the one funny part of this too? Yeah, there was a lady who in the crowd Was like, you know We were huddled around and like chaps was on him and I was covering people up and the lady came over to help

It was just like holding his leg like she got in the way Holding his leg up like stretching I don't know if that's like a thing Hands are going on but she like took charge and was I was I want to be like lady like who are you? What are you doing? Like let go of his fucking leg Yeah, like she was like pushing his foot like trying yeah, like stretching him out of burp them Yeah The first thing I remember is waking up chaps is above me stabilizing my neck being like buddy can hear me can hear me and this

Lady is just grabbing my legs holding holding me back He's like get his legs up and chapter's like put his fucking legs down but then I guess the fire fest of all this is finding out that the reason why I passed out at this concert was because I was dehydrated and I smoked weed that was too strong so basically I'm a pussy yeah but you're not and there was there was a report that came out that there was a rabies outbreak at salt. Yeah Oh, yeah, I was like for a second. I was like on it I read the report the days didn't line up but it was like salt shed leads to like people passing out from rabies

I was like, oh my god, baby. There's one rabid bat that's in the crowd There's probably another one. So I saw that and I was like fuck. Yeah. Yeah, maybe I got rabies foaming out the mouth But yeah, okay. So sorry to get serious again. Yeah, it's good. We want to flush it out Oh, that doesn't feel so so important now, huh? Both of them are fine Yeah, it was true. No, I'm a pussy Alright, my fire fest is quick. I've just been like rolling in and out of like being sick for the last two weeks because I

was I think was Brown's Broncos Monday night I didn't get any sleep and then I've just been worried about my other best friend maybe having a heart attack. So I just haven't been getting any sleep. Well no I actually I did I my kids just bring in all types of germs December on Saturday when Travis Hunter won the Heisman I I think I told you guys but I I was so sick. I puked seven times that day Seven times first time did you get out of going to the holiday party? I did I felt bad because People were treating me like how's the holiday party? I was literally just like in and out of sleep and puking like I was having it was a 24-hour

But it probably sounded that's why my throat sounded bad on Sunday because I was so sick But it was one of those like quick Stomach viruses that you take a sip of water and just puke Then that was just all day Saturday Travis 100 day. Yeah, it's pretty bad But they had to get out of going to the party But there was a there was a fucking magician with a rabbit there So I missed the magician somehow our bodies know when it's not a show day

Dude, you know, I really like we've we've never had I if I I was thinking about that if I had to do the show and actually that we have done an army Navy college football show like six years in a row and we didn't do it this year but if I had to do a show on that day I would have been fucked because I still felt like shit on Sunday, but I was like not throwing up But yeah, I was I couldn't go 30 minutes all throwing up on Saturday that sucks. Yeah. Yeah and put max has a broken foot Still have three kidney stones working their way down, buddy. Yeah, no, that's worse I don't know the broken foot broken foot broken sucks. Well, is your foot really broken?

Because you don't need surgery. Yeah. True. You told me that you probably didn't need surgery when you got a surgery. He's an athlete. Well, I said, Doc, I'm not a pussy. Get in there. Look at my foot.

Yeah, he's an athlete. Cut me. Okay. Good show, boys. A reminder for next week, we have a show Monday, we have a show Friday. No show Wednesday because it's Christmas and then we're going to do the same thing the week after. Show Monday, show Friday, no show Wednesday because it's New Year's.

Okay, but we will see you, we will be recapping week 16 here. Numbers? 17. 11. 8. 3. 37. 94. 17 11 8 37 Jack 47

82 82 What do you mean? 82 82 Love you guys So So So so So So I'm going to go ahead and get started. You