Pardon My Take - Combine Week, Bears HC Ben Johnson, Max Is Back From Vacation And Joel Embiid Is Extremely Injured Plus Guys On Chicks
Episode Date: February 26, 2025We’re live from Indy for the Combine and we talk football stories including Stafford’s next contract (00:00:00-00:10:38), packers trying to ban the tush push and Max is back from vacation (00:10:3...8-00:17:21). Hot Seat Cool Throne with an update on the bonk list and more plan crashes freaking Hank out (00:17:21-00:44:21). Bears Head Coach Ben Johnson joins the show to talk about taking the Bears job, Caleb Williams, calling plays, how much he squats, coding and tons more (00:44:21-01:19:24). We finish with Guys on Chicks (01:19:24-01:33:23).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take
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On today's part of my take, we have Chicago Bears head coach Ben Johnson. We are live from the Combine in Indy.
We're going to do Hot Seat Cool Throw. Max is back from his fitness vacation. Great to have Max back. Thanks Hank.
Nice of you to join us. Talk a little combine. Can you talk with a Canadian accent from now on?
Yeah. Seriously. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. No. Never mind. We have special guest Stephen Che doing
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Today is Wednesday, February 26th.
And it's combine week. We're live from Indy in a conference room. It's combine week.
The most magical city in Indiana. Yes. Indianapolis. That's facts. There's magic on these streets.
Yes. So we have a combine week. We have news coming out of the, uh tush push is being voted on to be banned led
by the Packers an unnamed team has requested that the NFL change the tush
push rule that unnamed team is the Green Bay Packers Green Bay Packers are being
salty bitches they're being salty about it and for the record I'm I'm against
banning the tush push this is the Ravens it's John Harbaugh all over again
yeah there's you could stop the tush push
You could try to stop it
You could also stop them on first second or third down or you could just try jumping over the line of scrimmage
Infinity times in a row to try to stop it keep the tush push, but also allow teams to do that
I also feel like the bills in the AFC championship game like there's a pretty good like evidence against banning the touch
board. Yeah, because it just doesn't work. The weird part about it is the Bills were the other team besides the Eagles that used
that play the most this season. Yeah, and it worked for him until the playoffs until it didn't. And then it didn't work. And now Sean
McDermott is like, Yeah, I think I'm in favor of banning the play now. Well, it's just I saw someone be like, how do you
stop this? It's like, well, don't let them get to fourth and
two, fourth and one. That's a way to stop. How do you stop it
hit the weight room? Yeah. Max, what do you think about people
trying to ban the tush push?
loser mentality. They're all a bunch of pussies. The Eagles are
the best at it. They work on it a lot. They practice it a lot.
They have the right guys to do it. I don't know why you would punish a team for just being better at one play than the rest of the league. Well said. Yeah. I mean, they banned the slam dunk when Kareem Abdul-Jabbar was thrown it down too much. That's true. So maybe they'll bring it back. I think it's stupid. I think it sets a bad precedent of being like we have to ban. Maybe the only thing I would say is if you would want to ban being able to push players from behind.
Because that was the rule for a while. So yeah, but you're talking about just let them do normal quarterback sneaks. But yeah, normal quarterback sneaks. Yeah.
The rule for a while was that you weren't allowed to assist a ball carrier. You can have like a lineman or tight end grab somebody and push them forward.
Right.
Like the Matt Liner Reggie Bush play.
Yeah.
That would have been illegal at one point.
But then they took that out because they
said it was too hard to officiate.
I don't think it's that hard to officiate.
I don't think so either.
If you clearly see it, then you can call it.
But it is.
And I think it would actually, I think
the Eagles would still be able to do it even without the push.
Yeah.
I think that their offensive line is that good
and Jalen Hurts is that good, that they would still be able to do it. And I push. I think that their offensive line is that good, and Jalen Hurts is that good, that they would still
be able to do it.
And I'm in a great spot here, because I'm firmly
saying that I'm anti-banning the tush push,
but I'm also going to be really, really happy when
they do decide to ban it.
Do you think they're going to ban it?
I think they might.
I think they might.
They did this last year, too.
They do this every year.
You didn't win the Super Bowl last year.
Yeah, there's more.
Way different.
They don't ban nobodies.
We also have Matthew Stafford looking
for $50 million somewhere.
Me too.
We all are.
Yeah, Kirk Cousins found $50 million to be a backup.
It's true.
He's more likely to probably get paid $50 million
than any of us, but where's he gonna go?
I think the Giants.
Why not the Steelers?
That'd be fun. Is that Aaron
Rodgers? I'm thinking if we're doing quarterback musical chairs this off
season, I think it's gonna be Stafford in New York. I think it's gonna be
Aaron Rodgers Los Angeles. I think it's Sam Darnold Los Angeles, Stafford New
York, Rodgers. Vikings. Rogers, probably the Steelers
are the Titans.
I don't know how much you think Mike Tomlin would enjoy I think
Mike Tomlin he does like having personalities to juggle on his
team. Yeah, at this point, we can say that Mike, he's done a
very good job in the past of having some absolute psychos on
his team. Now it's to the point where I think he actually
enjoys it. He gets off on it.
Yeah, he needs it to get out of bed.
It's too bad that the Colts seem like they're done
with getting old quarterbacks because that used to be,
like they just took a job,
like jobs are being taken away all across America.
The Colts have done that with old quarterbacks.
Yeah, I feel like that would have been
the logical Kirk Cousins swan song out there.
It could have been Stafford, Kirk Cousins, or Rodgers.
Yeah, so now- They'd be like, come on, come on, Ballard. You know you want to. like that would have been the logical Kirk Cousins swan song. It could have been Stafford Kirk Cousins or Rogers. Yeah.
Like, come on, come on, Ballard.
You know you want to.
You know you want to stop Gap.
Do it, dude.
So as it stands right now, Kirk Cousins,
they've said that he's not going to be traded or anything.
He's going to be a $50 million backup on the Falcons.
On the Falcons.
Congratulations to Kirk Cousins.
What a move.
$100 million guaranteed signed last off
season. Then they ended up drafting his replacement. Then he got hurt allegedly. Then Pennex just took
his job. That's incredible. $100 million not work. That is that's the American dream. But the Falcons
also said that they were never informed of any injury from Kirk Cousins. What do you mean? So
after the season was over, Kirk's camp
let leak out there.
Yeah, I was dealing with a bunch of shoulder, elbow, things
like that.
The Falcons are like, this is the first we've heard of it.
I think it was just that he's old and had an Achilles injury.
He might be old.
And it's hard to come.
I mean, we're talking about two guys, Aaron Rodgers
and Kirk Cousins, who were both old and had an Achilles
injuries.
And they weren't totally themselves afterwards. Yeah, Kirk, Aaron Rodgers, Kirk Cousins, who were both old and had an Achilles injury. And they weren't totally themselves afterwards.
And Kirk, Aaron Rodgers, top five quarterback.
That's true, top five quarterback, for sure.
Also, Miles Garrett, the Browns have no plan
on trading him, which I feel like they have to say.
They just have to go through the motions of saying this,
and then someone's gonna make them an offer
they can't refuse, and then they'll trade him.
It sounds like maybe the Byrdes.
Yeah, we also had
the the GM for the Ravens said that Justin Tucker allegations are concerning.
I'd agree. They're real. That is concerning. They're waiting for the facts to come out. That's concerning. So if true that he alleged nothing on the Steve Smith ban thing. No,
that's not concerning. No, no statement. No, I don't think so. I think they probably were like, listen
to pardon my take on Monday. They covered it for 45 minutes.
More than enough on it. Yeah, I mean, it in a perverse way. This
is probably the best team that the Steve Smith thing could
happen to because they've got bigger fish to fry. Yeah, yeah.
But he's not going to be the biggest pervert on the team. I
mean, Justin Sucker. He's he's not gonna play again, but he's not gonna be the biggest pervert on the team. I mean Justin sucker. He's
He's not gonna play again. Is he?
Yes, it's NFL
Yeah, when we said he was washed we didn't know that it was a table shower yeah also we had
We had Aaron Glenn said players upset over Aaron Rodgers decision
What's what's going on their memes? Players are upset that they got rid of Aaron Rodgers.
Which players?
He wait, Quentin Williams, give a thumbs down emoji on X when word of the team.
That is such a 2025 story.
Like, Hey, new coach, can you please address the fact that one of your players did a thumbs down emoji? Yeah
He did thumbs down and he he talked to Quinn and Williams and they're gonna keep that conversation in house
Okay, right the thumbs down was not in house. The thumbs down got out the thumbs down got out of house. Yeah
Sometimes you just tweet thumbs down
You don't know what it's about. I don't think you know what the meaning of in-house is.
Yeah. That's the most not in-house thumbs down I've ever seen.
It was reactionary.
Like if it was in-house, he would have posted that to Slack.
Right. Or he would have gone private. Or he would have done it just in a DM to a random person.
Or he just would have walked around his house just going like this.
Yeah.
That's in-house. If he just walked around his house just going like this. Yeah. That's it. Now, if he just walked around his apartment, just being like,
and his like wife or girlfriends, like, what are you doing? It's like, can't
even talk about it. upset about it. A rod can't even talk about it. I'm just
thumbs down. Yeah, it's in house now. Speaking of A-Rod, he might get leagued.
What?
You see his half court shot?
Yeah, he had a half court shot.
It's pretty impressive.
Bucked now for 10K for a kid.
Yeah.
It's pretty awesome.
Sign him up.
Yeah.
All right, speaking of the league, the association, Max, you are back.
I know we talked about it briefly on Monday's show, but new reports came out that Joe and B could undergo a
meniscus replacement procedure or procedure where doctors
break a bone in the hip to realign the joint and alleviate
pressure. He should just retire.
Disagree. I think he wants to play. He's competitor. He's gonna do whatever it takes to get out.
Which, which would you prefer your star player have a
meniscus procedure or that they break a bone in his hip to
alleviate knee pain? That sounds horrible. Yeah, this case
sounds better. But who knows, this could be some
groundbreaking. We've seen the meniscus surgery before and it's still this earth
No, but this sounds like radical radical meniscus. So that's even me
Covers on a skateboard. Yeah, he's got he's got to wear some stucy
the same sixer who made orbital bone fracture and nav
navicular bone fracture common phrases in Philadelphia sports lexicon.
He's had two of each.
He had two of each of those?
Damn.
Might soon add one of these meniscus replacement low dose radiation therapy or even the ominous
sounding osteotomy in which doctors break a bone in the hip to realign the joint to
alleviate pressure one source called the procedures
Radical in light of the mundane injury and surgery that brought and be to this point for some reason what should have been a routine
Rehab rehab and routine return to play has gone horribly wrong
oof
Correct, I don't know. Breaking a bone to alleviate a different set of pain
that you're having sounds. It sounds like radical, radical, radical, or it sounds like
something you would do in the 1800s. Like a civil war injury. Oh, you got shot in your,
in your pelvis. No worries. We're just going to take a sledgehammer to your foot. That
way you won't feel your witch. Let's just break your hip real quick and see if you can survive.
You guys aren't doctors.
You don't know what you're talking about.
I don't know what I'm talking about.
Maybe it'll help.
We'll break your hip.
If your knee recovers, it means you're a witch
and we have to kill you.
Yes.
Yeah, we're going to break your hip.
And if you can still drop 20 and 10, then you're a witch.
Yeah.
I don't know what you want me to say.
How fit are you feeling, Max?
Huh?
How fit are you feeling?
Yeah, how was the fitness vacation?
Fitness vacation was good.
Yeah.
I'm pretty tired.
Any yard sales?
I don't know what that means.
It's when you fall and all of your equipment goes everywhere.
Oh yeah.
And there's just the yard sale.
There was at one point I accidentally went down a black,
like a, and...
Pause.
Okay.
A black, I went down a black diamond.
I fell almost immediately and then I couldn't get my ski back on because the mount was so
steep so I just like went down stomach first like a penguin.
Oh yeah.
The entire mount.
That's a yard sale.
Oh yeah.
I love to see that video.
I was sledding on my stomach all the way down.
And your skis weren't even attached?
I was holding them and then I dropped them because I was going so fast and some nice
fellow behind me got them for me and brought them down to the bottom of the mountain.
How was the snow?
It was okay.
It was warm.
It was like people were there.
People were skiing with their shirts off.
Not me.
That's the best.
It was like 50s.
Little slushy.
Good powder.
Nice.
Yeah, it was fun.
Cool.
Love that for you.
Yeah, no, I had a good time.
Your vacation.
I feel fit.
On non-vacation week.
Do you miss vacations?
Hat tip.
To take a vacation when we're there.
There's a double vacation.
I might do that next year.
I work when you guys do vacation week
You did on what?
Would you like a cast we weren't doing?
Any shows that's true. That's good. Thank you for service. Good point. Thank you. Thank you. Are you welcome?
Are you worried about oldie at all? Am I what worried about oldie? No, I know I don't
Captions he just kept saying new producer Am I what? Worried about Oldie. No, I don't know. Memes fucked me on all the captions.
He just kept saying new producer and I had family members reaching out to me asking if
I got replaced.
Sounds like you're not worried at all.
I wasn't worried until Memes just kept saying new producer.
Yeah, no, he had the X Factor.
Oldie's great.
He's a great character.
I want him to be a part of this show very much going forward.
I just don't want him to take my job.
X Factor though.
Yeah, maybe switch him to social.
What?
Oh yeah, good point.
Oh, he could do some memes.
I would love to see Oldie signing memes.
I bet he'd be great at it.
That's a good point. We should give's giving the account have him sign his name
Yeah, let's give them a run through max do you want miles Garrett of course I want miles Garrett, okay
How bad do you want them as bad as how a Roseman wants them? That's my answer. I'd rather have the tush push or
miles Garrett
Miles Garrett, we would just sneak it. Would you go down on another black?
Black, I went down to black diamond, I fell.
Would you go down on another black diamond
for Miles Garrett?
Oh yeah, for sure.
Okay.
I would, yeah, I would go double.
I would go double black diamond.
Double black diamond?
Oh, PST, you don't ski.
I don't know.
So you wouldn't even think about it.
I don't know how to do that.
I don't know how to do that.
Sounds like he wants Miles Garrett more than you.
This is what was concerning me about the report
It was that the commanders are looking to make a strong offer
But if they do the Eagles are set to make an offer that he can't refuse
Ooh, which sounds it sounds like big Dom is like no, I'm gonna leave a horse head in yeah
That's big Dom. This is why it's for life
This is why I'm terrified of having big Dom in the division because he can make trades like that happen.
Yeah.
Okay, do we miss any other stories? Anything else going on
combine week? Anything important? I don't think so. We
got hot seat cool thrown them Ben Johnson, then guys on chicks
combine week. memes is getting memes. I think memes is getting
a little extra zesty right now because he knows he's got
versini coming up. Yeah, he's fired up. He's getting he's
getting his reps in although he did apparently see we're
seeing you today and didn't say anything just got swallowed his mic oh no
I probably tweeted something yeah I've been told that means saw her made eye
contact and then did not say a single word I said hello then I didn't say
what did she say oh hey guys hug no? She said, oh, hey, guys.
Hug?
No, she gave Max a hug.
Memes, when she comes by tomorrow,
you should just thumbs down her the whole time.
Just keep your thumbs down the whole time.
I'm in.
Keep it in house.
OK, let's kick it to ourselves.
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Hell yeah. Uh, Hank, hot seat, cool throne on the hot seat are planes. Why there was another,
although I guess maybe they're on the cool throne because you know, everyone's freaking out about
planes. Planes are crashing. What's go now with all the planes today at Midway
airport in Chicago a
Southwest plane was coming down to land it basically got to the ground and then it had to pull back up because there was
A private jet like a hundred feet in front of them that if it had landed it would have just went straight into it
incursion
Yeah, they did toggle power.
Another close call.
Took off one round.
Fact check.
Safer to fly than ever.
Source.
Fact check.
Source.
Reality.
Reality.
He just said reality.
Is there any stats to back?
Because last time I checked, we've
had one plane land flip over, almost kill the entire flight.
Hadn't seen that before. Is there a chance so far any
good landing is one that you can walk away from? Great landing.
Is there a chance though, Hank, it's like when you buy a car,
and then you see that car everywhere. You are acutely
aware of plane near misses. No, now you're seeing them a lot
more. That't be that.
It's actually, it happened on the way down to Indy.
Stephen Che, who is 38 years old and was born yesterday,
was enamored by the fact that there was an oversized load
car basically behind what was an oversized load on the highway.
He's like, I've never seen that before.
Again, I don't know how that's possible.
We then saw it three times and had a discussion
about Stephen Che's semen load and how it's still okay
after the vasectomy.
That probably is what's happening here.
I don't know how that applies to Stephen Che's cum,
but you get what I'm saying.
No, Hank shoots an oversized load
anytime he sees a video of a plane almost crash.
Yeah.
Now it's to the point where Hank almost enjoys the plane crash.
You're just looking, you're just seeing it more.
And the fact is, Hank, January of 2025, fewer plane incidents than January of 2024.
Wow.
Source?
How about that?
Reality.
The source is the documented worldwide incidence of plane crashes plane crashes wait when did that plane crash in DC?
I don't recall. I think that was but you are
January you are you are seeing more. No, I mean thanks to the things that I've been chilling out harder than ever
Have you just living? Yeah, I don't look for these things. They get sent to me. Well. Yeah, I mean I want you to be aware
No, I just want look for these things. They get sent to me. Well, yeah, I mean, I want you to be aware. No, I just
want to. I just want to live. You know, do you don't want me
to send you any like, no, no, if like 1000 dolphins decide to
beach themselves on a remote island, you don't want me to
send it. No, I'm hollow. Okay. What about if like a huge flock
of birds just flies into the Empire State Building? That's
just life, man. Yeah. What about if the Empire State Building. That's just life, man. Yeah. What about if the Empire State Building tweets something
and then has to delete it?
Live and let live.
OK.
All right.
I mean, you're the one that put planes on the hot seat.
Now you're saying, like, just chill out.
Which one is it?
What was the first one?
No, I mean, I learned from my big bro, big cat.
Like, just chill out, man.
Nothing matters.
There's nothing we can do about it.
We're all along for the man. Nothing matters. Yeah.
We're all along for the ride.
Nothing matters.
Just enjoy while you can, you know.
How about a little respect for the pilots of Southwest Air?
Choose to be happy.
That's a great move on their part.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
I really should put them on the cool throne.
Don't worry, be happy.
Kuna Matata.
Yep.
And then my cool throne is Timothy Chamolais.
Oh, okay. He won a SAG award and then I just
liked I like the speech. He gave a good speech after he won a SAG award and he's like, you
know, a lot of times it's when you know, athletes and actors they go up there, you know, I just
want to thank God and I'm just so blah, blah, blah. He kind of was just like, yeah, I want
to be one of the greats. I'm going hard. Well, he hates God. Yeah. He's having a moment. He is. Did he say anything? Did he say who he
liked in Mississippi State, Alabama? He did not. That would have been nice. It would have been nice.
It would have been nice. But he is, is he the answer for like, he could be the answer because
we've had this discussion before, but like, who is like a front of the poster movie star right now?
Armie Hammer.
It's Armie Hammer. It's like Tom Cruise.
Did you hear about Armie Hammer's movie that he's doing?
Yeah.
Is he eating people?
It's called The Dark Knight.
Wait, is he back?
Yeah.
I thought he was selling real estate in the Bahamas.
No, he's back. He's doing a movie.
That's his twin.
It's called The Dark Knight. It's a movie about a vigilante superhero kind of guy and it's not related to Batman
Army Hammer shout out army hammer
Because he basically has proven like when everyone's like I'm getting canceled
You should like dude the guy like actively wanted to eat people and he's back. Yeah, it was satire. Yeah, Hank Shaman now
No, I'm not. I'm actually doing the opposite.
I'm literally doing the opposite. I'm like, dude, if he can do it, anyone can.
My favorite fact about Armie Hammer, it weirds me out every time I relearn this one.
His grandfather was the CEO of Armand Hammer. But his grandfather's name was Armand Hammer.
He was the CEO of Armand Hammer,
but he wasn't the founder of Armand Hammer.
So his name was Armand Hammer.
The company Armand Hammer came out
and everybody was like,
dude, you should buy this company
because it's your name.
And then he ended up buying the company.
That's sick.
So he is kind of the heir to the Armand Hammer franchise, but they didn't find it. Wow. I had a fun fact that I forgot. I
think I knew it, but that Tony Hawk's grandson is also Kurt Cobain's grandson.
Yeah. That's pretty cool. He posted something about it, but that's the
coolest kid that's ever been created. His name Mike? I don't know what his name is. Mike Hawk? Mike Hawk, yeah.
That's his name. What is his name? What are you looking at? Max loves that one. You pervert. He loved it.
Well, Max is still fucked up from his fitness vacation. He is. Alright, sorry I'm not allowed to laugh.
No, no, it's okay. I like it. We got a little hungover Max from the fitness vacation. Maybe we can do a little remix of the outro song with some John Summit make you feel like you're still on vacay yeah Summit
crushed it dude how many times you do this on your vacation Max a whole lot of
that yeah mostly that that was your big thing move what are you looking up Hank
I'm reading about the Hammer family the grandfather was accused of murder in
1955 oh okay but did he eat the body I don't it? The grandfather was accused of murder in 1955. Oh, okay.
But did he eat the body?
I don't know, but he was separately accused of sexual abuse by his daughter.
Yikes.
Okay, alright.
Cool.
That's some light stuff.
Alright, PFT.
My hot seat is Bonnie Blue.
She is a liar.
She lied to us.
No. She's not actually pregnant. You mean Bonnie Blue who
fucked a thousand dudes? Fake pregnancy. What? You think you know somebody. But is at least
Lily pregnant? Still unclear about that one. Okay. I'm going to guess probably not. They
both claim pregnancy? Yeah. I think one of them is pregnant. It's like Magic and Bird.
I think it was, I think her friend got pregnant and then she did like the really shitty friend move
and be like, oh, I'm pregnant too.
Well, what she claims she did was she said that she,
she said she was pregnant to get more money
on her OnlyFans account.
And then she used that money to pay for her friend's
fertility treatment, IVF,
cause the price of eggs going way up.
So there is a pregnancy.
There, someone is
About to be pregnant. Got it. And I think the other girl Lily. Yeah, I think she she might be pregnant
But now since it's like a boy who cried wolf situation
So now since but she only fucked a hundred guys, right? Yeah, I think so. So probably not right
Elon should really lean into it and just put a put a rocket baby in in Bonnie blue I agree that I mean that would be if he if people are gonna just trash him might as well
Just go all the way. Yeah, she's being like boom
Rocket baby with the thousand chick guy agree thousand dude guy
What do you for our listeners? I mean, I'm Sam really good with this stuff, but IVF
Yeah
Is fertility stuff is fertility? I have babies if you can't have
inter vitro fertilization hmm you got it yeah yeah you know i know they used to call test tube babies
you know that yeah it makes sense it's where they take you you like nut into a bottle and then the
girl nuts into a bottle and then you mix girl you stir them around girl they get the little whisk thing with eggs they whisk
it you froth it maybe gets and then and then you have to water it and then put
it in sunlight and then boom baby it's pretty cool but yeah so Bonnie blue
liar yeah couldn't well I guess cool thrown Paul Bissonnette yeah he can
still munch that bin yeah although I think guess cool thrown Paul Bissonnette. Yeah, he can still munch that bin.
Yeah. Although I think maybe hot seat Paul Bissonnette
because there was a chance he was going to maybe be a father.
He would have been the dad who stepped up.
Yeah, exactly. All right.
My cool thrown is Gronk.
Yes. Hank, did you read this? I did.
So there was a report today amongst the Denver media
that Rob Gronkowski is considering a return to the NFL and
That he would like to potentially play for the Denver Broncos Wow
Did you real no zero point zero the the report from some random account it was the
Like facts that were going off of was that Gronk worked with Sean Payton last year
Or on Fox the year before mm-hmm, and he likes bonex
Okay, well, I think there was a little bit more to it than that Hank
Was to tell why would that report just come out they they've worked together way in the past
It's there more that I missed league sources tell me four times Super Bowl champion
Zafran Kowski is considering returns to the NFL
He worked with Sean Payne and Fox and I'm told he loves Denver you left that part out
So you were being you were trying to get his eyes that he loves Denver also which there's no way that's true
You let us they lost very conveniently left out two major parts of the support one. He loves Denver
This guy's holes. That's the guy was One, he loves Denver. This guy's told.
That's definitely false.
A guy was told that he loves Denver.
That's definitely false.
And also, two of his brothers, Dan and Chris,
had short stints to the team.
Oh, there you go.
So there's clearly history there.
There's a big pattern there.
No, Dan was on the team for like a year.
I don't even think Chris was on the team for a full year.
But yeah, loves Denver.
Well, denversports.com is reporting.
Maybe a couple years Dan was on the team.
I do like the idea of Gronk retiring and then being like man my body feels
good and then just keep coming back yeah he's like 60 he's also like the
ultimate like responsible with his money guy never spent any of his playing money
only spends his sponsorship money has a trillion sponsors like he does not need
the money no there's football no reason reason. No, he doesn't. He loves Denver.
He loves Denver. You're forgetting the Denver. I did. I was. I forgot. I forgot about how would
he possibly live in Denver if he wasn't playing for the Broncos? There's no way you can do it.
If they're looking to bring on a guy that hasn't played in the NFL as a tight end,
I feel like Jokic would be a damn good tight end.
But does he love Denver?
I don't think he loves Denver.
I don't think he loves Denver.
And his brothers, I don't think his brothers
ever played for the Broncos.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're pretending like this is fake when,
what was the last line again?
Well, the last line was that his brothers
both played for the Broncos.
Oh, but what was the line before that?
He worked with Sean Payton at Fox,
and I'm told he loves Denver and quarterback bone X that was yeah, he loves Denver dude
He's gonna be a Bronco. There's no other way for him to do this then be a bronco. I think I think it could happen
Yeah, all right. My hot seat is also baby Gronk has committed to Georgia. Oh
He said he will commit to Georgia. I hate that kid. Purr bit no offense. Baby Georgia.
Yes, I got your offer. But is there any baddies in Georgia?
Oh, any baddies?
You found a body.
Oh, side hug and he hit her with a side hug too. Damn. So he got
the offer. He's committing to Georgia
Do you think baby Gronk absolutely hates?
Big justice in the Rizzler cuz like I feel like that was you can you can point to where break baby Gronk went down
Maybe it was actually when baby digs showed up. Yeah, he can lock down baby Gronk
What would you say? Did you call baby Gronk did he? I called you did he?
Why cuz you were just breaking down him finding a body he's like 12 years old no he said I don't
know daddy he said there are no baddies that go to Georgia then I said that's
even so then I misspoke and said body instead of baddie okay you you know what
hey you're on an all-time hate streak right now he's just I'm just a streak I
speak my mind I don't know what you want me to do.
You're clearly rattled by the fact that Gronk loves Denver.
Yeah. And it's not, it's nothing against baby Gronk himself. It's obviously his family, but that is the weirdest internet storyline that exists, I think.
Not, not the Costco guys.
I came around on them.
Okay, good.
I came around on them.
You're on the right side of history. Yeah. Okay, good. I came around on the right side of history Yeah, yeah max it was honestly when they came to the office. He was funny
And I was just like I was like oh yeah, and Jerry wants to fuck their mom. I was talking a lot of shit
Oh, you he's like oh doom. I just like it was so Jerry's talking me into Mama Justice. Oh, yeah
He's shown me enough in Stockholm syndrome. Yeah, just as has got it
Yeah, have you guys seen the the newest child stars on the internet?
No.
The Maryland Foodie Boys?
Oh, yes.
I love those guys.
I've been so close to them.
I've got PFT.
Awesome.
We actually are like, we shouldn't prop these guys up
because they're going to take our job.
It's a bunch of 12-year-olds who have a food podcast,
but they haven't tried any food because they're 12.
So they did a pizza topping discussion and they all were
like I usually just like cheese but I guess maybe pepperoni. Put that clip in here.
Right what's your favorite topping on a pizza? I'm just a if I had to choose it'd probably
be like pepperoni but I'm not a big I'm not a big I'm just a regular cheese guy. Yeah, I just do cheese
I don't I don't do I just do cheese. I don't really like pepperoni. It's a weird taste
I'll do pepperoni but same thing like yeah, a lot of people are big pepperoni fans. I think meat lovers do have meat lovers cook
I'm not a big fan of it. I'm not a big fan of like the sausage in general If they're had meat lovers none of none of them likes pepperoni it was
It was too spicy for them, but they have a food podcast
I love that they had a long discussion about what actually actually are dry rub wings I
Want to see the episode where they get introduced to ranch on pizza. It's so awesome
Yeah, one of the kids said that he hasn't had a different lunch
since kindergarten. I assume he's probably in sixth grade, but he just, it was peanut
butter and jelly, yogurt, chips, fruit, and a juice box. He's had the same lunch every
single day, but he has a food pie. And they're just like, yeah, let's talk about this today.
It's like, has anyone tried it? No. What is this? Strawberry jelly? Oh yeah, we got a clip in for the people. The pizza one
had me dying. They're just going around being like, yeah, I'm kind of just cheese. All right.
My hot seat is anyone who hates Taylor Swift, not us. We love Taylor Swift. We're Swifties
because Travis Kelsey is not retiring. Okay. So his GM said that he was pumped for him to be back. Okay.
That was a fun little thing. So is that confirmed or is that just the GM says that he's pumped? The
GM said he was pumped. I feel like Chiefs GM. Travis Kelsey should always be pumped. Chief GM expects fired up
Kelsey to play in 25. Okay. Fired up. How we left the end of the season is that he was fired up. I think we left it as he'd be back and
we're excited to get him back and get him going. So cool
throne is the Swifties. Yeah, there's I also saw a story in
unconfirmed report that she's got a beef with Blake Lively
going right now. Oh, is that true? Hank, Hank, explain the
Blake Lively Ryan Reynolds thing to me in three sentences
Okay, Blake Lively
Diva
gets in fight with director and
Forces her power and uses Ryan Reynolds to shape a narrative. Oh
Movie flops then she goes back and blames the director. Oh,
no, it was her that was kind of doing everything the whole time. So we're we're about we're
about and then now everything is getting public and about only rose about Donnie is is just
releasing everything. He just started a website and he's just leaking every single conversation
and every single piece of evidence he has. I think he's also a little bit of a diva like that's kind of they're just doing
PR got it
Get some articles going it sounds like this type of stuff happens all the time on basically any movie
I just I just I think Ryan Reynolds is the biggest loser out of the whole thing so I've been a good husband
Yeah, but he just he was you know a beloved person. I feel like and he's kind of looking a little scum
I haven't changed my opinion on him.
He's a wife guy.
I didn't have an opinion.
None.
I don't really have, no, I don't watch some Marvel movies.
I enjoyed- Was he in Waiting?
I enjoyed Van Wilder.
Yeah, that was funny.
I enjoyed, yeah, Van Wilder, Waiting, two great films.
I liked the Welcome to Wrexham thing.
Yeah, that's cool.
That's one of those stories that I know it exists,
but I never read anything, and then it popped up again with the SNL 50 when everyone's like how could he make this joke?
Well, so they're suing and in the lawsuit there's Blake Lively is saying like she's caused emotional damage by everything that's going on
So that's like in the law you can't so then to go to SNL
Yeah, where his wife who he left for who? Scarlett Johansson, who was married to Colin Jost.
So he left Scarlett Johansson to start
dating Blake Lively because they were co-stars in a movie
together, classic scumbag move.
And then to show up at SNL 50 and then make a joke about it
when in the lawsuit they're saying she's so emotionally
damaged that this is happening like it kind of
Who you know playing both sides there?
But is there any truth the fact that there's a rift between Blake Lively and Taylor Swift now?
I think Taylor Swift. I don't know. I don't know about that. That's that's Swifty stuff that I'm not fully caught up on but
Blake Lively was what was in Taylor's box forever. Yeah, all this stuff happened
Yeah, she was in no box to be found and nowhere to be found with Taylor.
So so I think that's just Swift.
He's speculating Ryan Reynolds went from Scar Joe to Blake Lively.
Yeah, fuck that guy.
He's he's had a good time.
Damn. Yeah.
I respect. Yeah. Fuck. Take my hat off.
Yeah.
Uh, all right. My cool thrown is actually all of us.
Nice, because Sidney Sweeney is not getting married
as of right now.
Good for us.
I thought you were just gonna say
cause we're getting the phone.
Oh, the Woge phone?
Listen, I'm gonna try to buy a Woge phone
for our good friend Mark Titus
cause he loves Woge.
For people who didn't see it, Woge is auctioning off
his old phones for St. Bonnie's NIL and if you're like why
would I want his old phone well let me pull it up real quick and give you a
little explanation for why you'd want it so this is one of the phones you could
buy from Woj. How about this Hank would you like this one? iPhone used to break Paul George Kauai Leonard to the Clippers.
Wode used this phone iPhone XR from 2018 to 2019 to discover and announce major
NBA news including Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving teaming up in Brooklyn, Anthony Davis
joining LeBron James in Los Angeles, and Paul George and Kauai Leonard both landing
with the Clippers just moments apart around 2 a.m.
That's pretty cool. It's more than just a phone. It's a piece of history. That is a huge phone
iPhone used to break NBA suspending season for COVID. That one's a hell of a phone. I don't like
that phone. I actually did text Woj and I was like, do you have any other phones that we could
buy black market? And he's like, he's going to look for us. Okay. Cause I would like a woad phone.
I mean, that brings up a good point. What phones historically would you like to
purchase? I think the Brett far phone. Yeah.
The Brett farm phone would be good. Joe horn, Joe horn phone from underneath the,
uh, the uprights in the insomber, the flake gate phone.
That's how that thing's destroyed.
I would like to buy the Diana Rossini reporting
on Max's farts and two sodas phone.
We could actually probably make that happen.
That might still be good.
I want that phone.
That might be an active phone.
Yeah, it might be.
Bad.
I'd like the phone where, and we're gonna,
on Friday we'll have Schefter on it.
I would love the phone where the Dez tape is stored.
That would be nice.
But yeah, we should maybe sell some of our...
Something like that makes me wish we'd like, imagine if we just like had archived all of
our shit instead of just throwing it away or like doing the pile donations.
This big cat phone has over $5 million lost in gambling.
You are really going to want this one.
Whose job hypothetically would have been to archive all the part of my take stuff
That would have been you
How's the bunk list going this year?
Let's just pull it up because the people love it. Yeah, they do you you just aren't doing it
I think I I maybe just got way less horny this year way less horn turn 40
Lost my mojo is is me saying that we all got a shot with Sydney Sweeney. I'm back. I'm back
Cuz we all got a shot with Sidney Sweeney on the play list? I'm back. Because we all got a shot with Sidney Sweeney.
Mm-hmm.
This is confusing.
Not 0% chance.
I can see it from here.
I feel it.
It is not a substantial list.
Oh, no.
No?
There's one entry.
There's one entry.
OK, Hank, give us an issue box list right now.
It's not completed.
PMT, stats, and info, we're going to have to have you help out Hank and maybe get some bonk lists going for him.
No, Pete. I mean, there hasn't been much. What do you mean? We do the bonk list in the middle of summer. So it's been six months.
Do we even do it last year? I think we had the same issue and then you know, I had her from last year.
I had one from last year. Okay, so we did do it last year.
We didn't do it on the show.
All right, so we have two years.
Maybe.
We definitely did it on the show.
PFT is Mike Pence.
Assume Max was going to say sexual things to female co-workers when?
Oh, when you wouldn't go on the bachelorette party.
Oh, yeah.
No, that's not it.
No.
You wanted me to...
Oh, PFT is Mike Pence. Like you assume that if Max is talking to yeah, yeah, workers, yeah, you
wanted me after the Eagles fan was disrespectful to the the
women you wanted me to go up to the women of Barstool and say
something nice. Oh, yeah. But respectful. But you just
assumed everything was going to be sexual. No, say something
nice. But yeah, that's right. I just told all that they're
really good at their job. That's that's a weak weak bonk list hang yeah your bunk list sucks hang I
Started the bonk list like myself. I know it was my passion project people on assignment people want it
People want it okay? Let's uh let's do our interview with Ben Johnson before we do that
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Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very special guest. It is head coach of the Chicago Bears, Ben Johnson. Coach, thank you for joining us. I have a loaded first question for you. Can I start with the first question for you first?
Yeah. Okay. All right. Super Bowl scenario. Okay, by the way, I watched an AI thing where they simulated the next 10 years of the Bears
with Ben Johnson and Cale Williams.
We won two Super Bowls.
I like that.
Yeah, pretty good.
Okay, scenario, Super Bowl,
Chicago Bears versus New England Patriots.
Oh, Bears. Who are you rooting for?
Bears, Bears, Bears.
You are? Bears all day.
Okay. Bears, Bears.
We got that one out of the way.
Bears, yes.
All right, my first question is a very important question, very important question. Uh, cat or dog guy dog. Yes. Good answer. Good answer. Thank God. All right. That's the end of the interview. That's
all I needed. There was another coach that we had on there might have been another coach that said, uh, not only cats, but multiple cats. Yeah. That should have been red flag. Who was that?
I don't know, forget the guy's name.
Might have been the coach before you for the Bears.
All right, so you're a dog guy.
Do you have a dog?
I do not have a dog.
Okay, but you love dogs.
I like dogs.
I like dogs.
Okay, that, I should add.
No, yeah, I love dogs.
You should end the interview right where we end it.
So you don't own a dog.
Are you an aspiring dog owner?
Nope.
Okay.
But you love dogs.
You appreciate their work.
I don't have time for pets, guys. Oh, that's fair, that's fair. Football is life. Okay. Okay. But you love that you appreciate their work. I don't have time for pets guys. Oh, that's
good. Yeah, football. Football is like football is like so I
was actually I was a little bit worried that you were not going
to show up today because you love canceling interviews at the
last second. Is that true? Oh, that was a harder question.
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Hard question. Hard question. Hard question. Hard question. Hard question. Hard question. Hard question. Hard question. Hard question. Hard question. All right, so you've been the Bears head coach for over a month now.
Has it kind of settled in that you are a head coach in the NFL?
It's pretty damn cool.
Has it started to be like, whoa, I'm actually running this organization?
Yeah, yeah.
I think it's...
Listen, it's been everything I wanted it to be.
I know that.
It's been five weeks and a lot of work and getting the coaching staff together, getting
schedules in place, and it's a lot going on.
So I haven't had a chance to reflect yet
or anything like that, but no, it's exactly what I wanted.
I love that.
I love that.
Would you say you're an offensive guru,
a whiz kid or a QB whisperer?
I'd say a damn good football coach.
Oh, I like that.
Cause my next question was gonna be like,
which one of those is the best leader of men?
And does any of this shit matter?
No. Yeah. Listen. Yeah.
None of those terms matter. I hate all those terms, actually.
I agree. I want to be a damn good football.
I want to be I want to be remembered as Andy Reed or Belichick.
Like, that's that's what I aspire to be. I like that a lot.
You seem like a like an intense guy, somebody who know
very clear about your intentions for everything.
When did you know that you wanted
to be a head football coach?
I think it's been every step along the way,
that's when you start looking at the next step.
And so when I was, when I got,
when Dan Campbell promoted me to tight ends coach,
there was a point I was like, man, I could, I love this job.
I could do this for the next 20 years.
This is great. But then eventually you're like, well, I could, I love this job. I could do this for the next 20 years. This is great.
But then eventually you're like, well,
I would love to call plays too at some point.
And so, well, you get the opportunity to do that.
And then once you're calling plays for a little bit,
you're like, oh, well, there's another,
there's another ladder to climb here.
So yeah, it, over the last, call it three years,
that's where it really came, came to shape.
I can't tell you, I got into this business
to be a head coach that
that really wasn't wasn't the intent. The intent was to be
around some really good people. And I love the game. I love the
sport and everything that comes out from it. And so it's just
been a natural progression. And, and it's really the next step.
I heard that somewhere along the line you were you're writing
code. Yeah, is that true? It was a long time ago, like in a
football capacity. Yeah, to a
degree. What does that mean? You were watching watching film
figuring out like ways to arrange data or what was that?
Yeah, so it's it was a way of taking what was ever already
inputted into the system and organizing it a different way.
So listen, it's not fun or sexy to talk about. I don't think we need that.
That's pretty cool. That's a, it's an interesting ability that you have. Cause if you were to go
back 20 years, how many football coaches have ever written code trying to organize our systems?
It's probably 0%. Probably not many. Yeah. It's probably not. Yeah. I mean, that's, that's pretty
cool. Part of your past. I'm sure that there's, I mean, getting to this point where you're a head
coach, the NFL is an incredible accomplishment.
I know you have a lot more things you wanna accomplish,
but like being a code writer, I can't imagine that's,
like PFT said, there's probably not a lot of guys
who've coached the NFL who did that.
That's pretty damn cool.
Yeah, if you think so.
Yeah, I do.
I think it's cool.
I'm counting it as cool.
So I love Caleb Williams.
What do you see in Caleb Williams and gets you excited about coaching Cale Williams?
I would say what stands out, which is different than where I came from, would be the ability to improvise the
creation when things break down, extend plays, throw on the move outside of the pocket.
He's a dynamic athlete. He's got all the intangibles,
I believe, that the great quarterbacks have. He wants to be great. He wants to be coached.
That was important as well. So I'm still getting to know him, but I really can't wait to get
to work with him.
Yeah. Yeah.
One thing that I really love about your coaching style is all the downfield laterals that you
do.
You like those?
I love them. So we've been talking about that on this show.
I think every single head coach that we've interviewed, I've been telling them like more
downfield laterals, there's ability to break open big plays.
By the way that you know, defenses are coached on how to tackle swarm to the ball opens up
gaps.
You use that as much as anybody in the NFL in your offense.
Is that something that you've like grown looking at the percentages and done all the analytics
and said you have the ability to make bigger plays?
How did that become a key part of your playbook?
Let me start.
The head coaches you did talk to, what did they say?
Were they gonna?
They would kinda laugh and they'd say,
well no, they would laugh and they'd say,
yeah, but you also have a high risk of turning the ball over.
Oh, come on. That's that's baloney. That's what they said about the triple option.
Yeah. When that came to light, right. And so listen, it was last year, we're watching self scout as a staff and
there was a certain concept we had ran a number of times a year before. And it was like, well,
what if we did that? You see the same reaction from the defense. It didn't matter what coverage
they were in the same reaction. What if we just sent another You see the same reaction from the defense. Didn't matter what coverage they were in, the same reaction.
What if we just sent another player going the other way
and we threw the ball to them?
And so that's really how that came to light.
We did probably what, four or five of them this year
in Detroit and they ended up being pretty darn good plays.
But you gotta have the right players too.
It was St. Brown.
So you get the ball of St. Brown,
he's gonna make sure he's doing the right thing with it.
Yeah.
He's a dog.
You have to coach it.
You have to have guys that are ready for it, guys
that are ready to pitch it.
And if you watch rugby, there are
people that are very capable of, while they're getting hit,
offload the ball.
Boom, break it for a touchdown.
Well, you see Kansas City do it.
But that's a little bit more ad lib, I feel like.
Whereas we were a little bit more detailed
about the relationship. But like I said, the triple option, I'm sure when that came came out years
ago, everyone what the hell is this thing? And you know, I feel like this is just our
version of the triple modern day triple option if you will. How deep is your bag? It's deep,
right? Oh, it's deep. It's deep. All right, so settle this debate though, because every time it would happen to you
where you guys would run a trick play,
even specifically the one you ran against the Bears
where Jared pretended to fumble
and then hit that touchdown pass.
And everyone's like,
why would you run that in the regular season?
I've always thought you're just giving the other,
the defense you're gonna play down the season
another look they have to be ready for.
So if Jared just, if he trips even a little bit,
they're like, oh shit, this is another trick play.
Is that kind of how you look at trick plays?
Like there's no, hey, we're trying to hold something back
because we're just making it even harder for them
to game plan for us.
You don't know when they're going to be good again.
Right.
Because they're really predicated on the defense
you're playing that week.
And so if you're going to invest the time and the energy to install it and practiceicated on the defense you're playing that week. And so if you're gonna invest the time and the energy
to install it and practice it on the field,
then why wait what could be another four weeks
before you actually get a chance to run it?
You might as well capitalize on that opportunity right now.
And not to mention there's a million plays you can run.
There's a million plays and we've only scratched the surface
of what we're capable of doing right now.
And so yeah, we'll scratch one of those million off the list and okay, we got a bunch of them
left.
Let's go on to the next one.
That's a deep back.
Do you ever find yourself like maybe even when you're sleeping or just like, you know,
driving and something pops in your head, you're like, oh, found another.
Yeah, yeah.
It happens.
The best times are in the shower.
That's where you go.
Yeah.
You got nothing else to do, but your mind's on football in the shower.
That's where the best ideas pop up.
Ben Johnson is beating you in from the shower.
I like that.
I like that.
I haven't heard that one before.
Do you have an overall football philosophy?
Yeah, and this stems from John Shoop,
who actually coordinated it in Chicago early 2000s.
He was a coordinator when I was a senior at North Carolina.
Caleb Presley knows him very well.
And he used to say, yeah, we want the same things
to look different and different things to look the same.
And so really that's the starting premise
for offensive football.
That's what it was since I took over as a play caller.
I like that way, the same things look different.
We're not smart, so we gotta break that down the same things look different. We're not smart.
Different things to break the same.
Same things look different.
So you want when you're doing different things,
you want people to be like,
oh, they're just running their vanilla offense.
I think I'm gonna dumb it down.
It's kind of like, like a delivery of like a fastball
and a change up come from the same arm slot.
That's right.
Okay. That's right.
I got it now.
That's right.
I think.
That's right.
How important is the running back for you? Very important I think. Yeah. I think. That's right. How important is the running back for you?
Very important.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, was very fortunate to be around some good ones
over my career.
And I think the best ones, what they do
is they elevate the players around them.
And so really they've been the tone setters,
the best offenses I've been a part of,
the best teams I've been on,
that running back position's really been vital in terms of getting the game going. When things
are going in a lull, which will happen from time to time, get it in his hands and he'll pick us
back up again. And so, no, the running back position's huge. Okay. So like if there was a
great running back that was around in the draft, you'd think, man, that guy would be important.
Certainly. Yeah. That's a good answer. guy would be important. Certainly.
Yeah, I would think.
That's a good answer.
I would think that way too.
That's a good answer.
I like that you've already kind of,
you're very comfortable doing the,
I know that I'm getting too close to something
and I can't give away too much information.
So I'm gonna sit here and smile
and let you guys figure it out.
You're beyond your years on that.
When you were working with Coach Dan Campbell in
Detroit, one thing that we love about Coach Campbell is we think that he's actually very,
very smart. He's a super smart guy. And sometimes he likes he likes to toss a little red meat
out to the media to get them talking about a lion on the sidelines instead of, you know,
trying to actually figure out what he's up to in the games. But he's I think he's an
underrated intelligent coach. He knew exactly when to go for it on
fourth down according to actual statistics. It wasn't like
sometimes it might have been overall motto of we're going to
be aggressive, but it was all backed up by math on that. Was
that like going into every game? Did you know the exact
scenarios where you had to be prepared to go for on fourth
down? And if so, did you stay with that plan? Or were there times where you had to dev prepared to go for on fourth down and if so, did you stay with that plan
or were there times where you had to deviate from the plan?
No, you're right.
He's super intelligent.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I've learned a ton from him.
Each week was its own entity though.
And so it wasn't like you went into the season saying, hey, every fourth and two, we're always
going to go for it. That was not the case.
It just depended on the week, the opponent,
how aggressive they were, the weather.
There's all kinds of factors that come into play.
And so going into the game, yeah,
he would have shared that information with me
of, man, once we hit midfield,
if you can make it fourth and three or less,
then you're gonna have a green light.
And then over the course of the game, once we hit
that range, he would be in my headset and tell
him, hey, you got four downs here, which would
tell me, oh, I just got to make this fourth and
three or less.
Right.
Right.
And so what that allowed me to do as a play
caller was we ran the ball a shit ton on third
down, you know, to make it into those manageable
situations and a lot of those runs, we ended converting anyways because that's that's actually the best
Time to run the ball. Yeah, it was I think that was his whole grand scheme. Mm-hmm
You know, he's a there's a lot of yeah, it's behind it
Yeah, we always like we're dumb fans and I think most fans are a little dumb in this way where we're like
Oh, he's going for fourth down again. But it felt like for the Lions
specifically, you guys were you knew you were going to fourth
down way before that. You know what I mean? You knew that that
drive like, hey, this is going to be a drive where like you
said, fourth and three. So it's not a surprise to anyone on the
field. You're planning for that and you're you're calling plays,
you know, three, four plays ahead.
Yeah. And that was the play style there too. So the players
knew it.
The players knew exactly what we were getting into,
not only on offense, but also on defense.
They knew, well, there's a chance
that we're not gonna convert,
and now they're gonna have to defend a short field
or something like that.
Right.
You know, the buy-in is so important
to any team that you're a part of,
and fortunately there in Detroit,
there's a lot of player buy-in.
Was there ever a time where Dan Campbell,
on the headset, he was just like,
"'No, Penn, that's too crazy.
"'We can't do that.'"
No, I don't think so.
I think he's on board with golf.
He let you let it rip.
Yeah, absolutely.
That's awesome.
I love that because your trick plays are very fun to watch.
And they're like, back to that Jared Goff one,
that was an insult play.
We can just say it right now.
That was an insult play to have a fake fall down
and score a touchdown, but it was damn cool.
And I'd just be like, damn, that was pretty damn cool.
I appreciate it.
Yeah, yeah.
It made it come to life.
Was it on Thanksgiving or it might've been the other time
you guys played the bears where you just
had Peney Sewell just stiff arm like four guys. Yeah, that was
thanks. Was he was he planning on throwing that ball or was
designed just have him run over as many bears as possible. In
hindsight, it should have been that yeah, because that was fun.
But no, he threw the ball probably half a dozen times the
previous three weeks in practice. dimes every single time. Oh, wow. dimes every
single time put it right on the money on you're talking about
330 pounds running probably 15 miles an hour to his right and
throwing it right on the money. Yeah. I don't know if I've seen
a more athletic movement. Yeah, crazy. Not not it has nothing
to do with Thanksgiving. But how are you with timeouts? I
Like to call them. Okay, but you know when to call them. Yeah, okay
Do you say you like 30 seconds left kind of scrambling? You got a time out of your pocket? Maybe call it if you need it you call it. Okay. All right, that's good
I got another coaching scenario for it at the end of a game
Let's say you guys have a lead. I think I might be a two point lead, maybe three point lead.
The opponent has the ball around the 45 yard line.
What 45 yard line?
Minus 45.
And there's four seconds left.
There's two schools of thought on how to defend it.
One, you use 11 guys to play defense against the Hail Mary.
And the other is you have one of your players
flip off somebody in the crowd on the Hail Mary. So I know you're an offensive guy so
maybe this hasn't occurred to you. What would you you said I don't need to you don't know
what I'm going to speak on his behalf. He doesn't have to answer this. Okay. That's
very fair. It's just the meagre loading worked out well for Washington. Yes it did. And I
think it's worked out well. Yeah, that's true. Everyone involved sliding doors. We got to
interview Caleb on the podcast back in August of last year,
and I asked him this question. I'm curious to know your answer to it as well. But if there was a
button that you could press, and if you press the button, the Bears would win 10 Super Bowls,
but one random Bears fan would die. Would you press that button?
I already gave up my life. So as long as they build a statue being like he died for 10 Super one random Bears fan would die, would you press that button?
I already gave up my life. So as long as they build a statue being like he died for 10. Can I just give a body part instead?
Yeah, pink. Yeah, which body part would you say? I've got the
three kids. My wife is already telling me what to do next. I
guess we can go. Yeah, testicles.
You didn't have to do both of them. You could have just swum like one's fine.
Just one.
There you go.
Give us both.
All right, I got a tough question for you.
Would you rather have five Rolls Royce Specters,
a beachfront house in Miami or a hundred foot boat?
I guess the beachfront house Miami.
Okay, the correct answer was all of them
because you make $13 million a year. Says who? correct answer was all of them because you make 13 million
Says who you can afford all allegedly allegedly allegedly. Yeah, you can afford all those that's pretty cool, right? That's cool
Here's a question from a friend of a mutual friend of ours how much you squat Oh, I
Don't know where this question's going.
I asked Jared if he had any questions.
He was asking.
That was Jared Goff's question.
This was Jared Goff's question.
How much do you squat?
So I don't know if you could say none or.
You know, I go ass to ankles.
Okay.
And so I probably could get 405 right now.
Whoa.
That's pretty good.
That's, you don't look like a guy.
Like that's 405.
What do I look like? I don't know. I didn't know where the answer was gonna go.. That's pretty good. That's, you don't look like a guy like that's. What do I look like?
I don't know.
I didn't know where the answer was going to go.
Four or five is pretty insane.
You look like you're built like a steel trap.
Oh, thank you.
Do you squat a lot?
Yeah, once a week.
Okay.
Yeah.
Four or five is legit.
Damn.
Do you get in the weight room with the guys?
No, no, but they've seen me.
They've seen me occasionally.
Yeah, you gotta let them see you.
Yeah, see you just every now and then. Listen, I'm no Campbell or Vable. I can tell you that right now. Yeah, I they've seen me. They've seen me occasionally. You gotta let them see. Yeah, see it just just every listen.
I'm no Campbell or variable. I can tell you that right now.
Yeah, I mean, there's those guys are Dan Campbell's. Yeah,
some works out of the shower.
You're thinking of play. It's actually perfect microcosm.
Really? You're drawing something up in the steam on the glass
door. He's over there bang out some push.
There's there's levels to this. Yeah. Um, is there a chance that Rome
doomsday is going to be in the slot this year? Oh, yeah. Okay,
around all over the place. I like that. Uh huh. multitudes
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Get multiple same things looking differently
different things looking the same. I love I've got a serious
question. So you went back to Detroit a couple times when you
had offers to be a head coach elsewhere.
You want to make sure that you were ready,
you were committed to the team.
I thought like, actually probably a smart move.
You're not ready to go until you're ready to go.
And then the Bears position opens up.
Now you go to the Bears
and you have to play the Lions twice a year.
Did that influence your decision one way or the other?
No, listen, I think when you go from coordinator
to head coach, you're looking for a great situation. And that listen, I think when you go from coordinator
to head coach, you're looking for a great situation.
And that's what I felt like Chicago had to offer.
I felt really strongly about the ownership,
George McCasky, President Kevin Warren, Ryan Poles,
obviously I felt really strongly about that setup.
And I felt like we could win not only in the near future,
but longterm as well.
But just as a consequence, it ended up being in the division.
Is it ideal?
Probably not, because I have a lot of love and respect
for those guys that I just came from.
But it'll make a couple Sundays each year a little bit more
fun.
Yeah, it will.
Yeah.
In terms of play calling, you're going to obviously call plays,
but you're also going to be the head coach. Have you, like, how does that work?
Is that, are you not worried about it,
but it's obviously a difference
because you're now worried about the whole team,
but also calling the plays.
Have you talked to anyone who does that?
I know Sean McVeigh still does that, some other guys.
Have you talked to anyone who does that
and like tried to figure out,
all right, this is what it's gonna look like,
this is how it's gonna be different?
Yeah, I experienced it when I was in Miami.
Gase was the head coach and he was calling it.
And listen, what I've done, what I've tried to do,
at least when bringing all these guys together,
is what are my strengths and my weaknesses
and trying to shore up all my weaknesses.
So I know on game day I'm gonna have a lot going on
and that's where having Dennis Allen in the building
and on the sideline is gonna be huge relief because he's been there
He's done that I have a lot of trust in what he can do on that side of the ball
Richard Hightower is a carryover coach for special teams. He's got a lot of skins on the wall highly respected
Special teams coordinator and then there'll be a there'll be a game management portion
That's up in the booth that that'll have to be my eyes up top
to help navigate some of those processes
so that we don't fall into some traps there
at the end of the game.
Yeah, because I'm always just amazed when guys do that.
Like when they show Sean McVeigh sitting on the sideline,
he'll like sit on the bench calling up the next plays,
I'm like, but you're also the head coach.
But again, we're dumb.
So.
Well, it's all about the people you put around you.
Yeah.
That's what it comes down to.
Yeah, how many guys that you have
on your staff. Yep, we got we got a great mix of of experience
and energy. And I think idea guys, so I feel really good
about where we're at. Are you an acronym guide? You have an
acronym? No, no acronym. Okay, no, that love that. Great
answer. That's a great answer. Dog guy, not an acronym guy. Love that.
Okay. The center position, I would assume, I mean, you're going from obviously the Lions had an
incredible offensive line, Bears are in transition trying to figure it out. How important is the
center for your play calling and your designs and what you're trying to do? I would say it's less
about me and it's more about the quarterback. So with Caleb being a second year player
and everything that that entails,
he's still, I thought he had a productive first year
in terms of exposure of a lot of things that can go on,
but to help him out the most here going forward,
I do think we need a strong presence at center,
smart player that can help set the table
from the run game and pass protection perspective. Yeah. Do you feel like your mastery of offense gives you a better insight as to
how to like lean in and give some examples of like to your defense coordinator some ideas
that you can pass along be like, Hey, if I want to stop this, here's what I would do.
Yeah, yeah, well, we'll have those conversations. And certainly within the division, I already
have a good feel with some of these teams in the division. What what may or may not be good ways to go. Yeah. Do you hate the Packers? I don't like the Packers. Yeah. He hates a strong word, but no, I don't. I don't hate him. What about the the you do? You do you don't know it yet, but you do. What about this shot at our friend, Matt LaFleur?
I liked it.
It was kind of different because a lot of times
when a Bears head coach gets announced,
they'll be like, we got to beat the Packers.
You just kind of threw a subtle one in there.
Do you know him at all?
Not like that, no.
Okay, no.
Oh, I like that.
No.
Yeah, you don't know him like that.
No, I don't know him like that.
Did anything get back?
Like, did he?
No, like, listen, it's a friendly rivalry going on. So
it'll be fun. Yeah. In 2025, the Bears are one and oh against
Packers. That's a fact. That's just a statistical fact. Yeah,
it's a streak. You gotta keep going. Going only with facts
here. That's a fact. Um alright, so in terms of uh the draft in
the combine, you you obviously been to the combine many times, but as a head
coach now, like are you, how much does a combine actually matter? Does it actually like, is
it more just, Hey, we got to go watch the tape. This is just kind of an addition to
everything we're doing, or is it like, Hey, we're going to try to maybe find a diamond
in the rough here.
It's another tool. So I mean, it's the first exposure we get personality and football intelligence
with the formal interviews. So just another tool, but yeah, I it's the first exposure we get personality and football intelligence with the formal
interviews. So just another tool. But yeah, I'd say the end
all be all is the tape. Yeah. Yeah. How many What's the
longest you've gone without watching tape?
Good question. Good question. Question. I don't know if I have
the answer for that one. Has it been like longer than a week?
It's probably been about a week. Have you a vacation and gone somewhere, you don't bring the iPad.
Private browser in the bathroom, looking at some tape incognito.
I swear I'm not looking at tape right now.
But you probably watch a ton. I would imagine. Oh yeah. Yeah.
Like how many hours a week would you say?
Shoot. Probably 40.
Full time job grinding tape.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's crazy.
I mean, particularly during the season,
but off season it adds up.
And is it, I mean, we're not tape watchers like that.
I watched some Twitter tape,
but is there moments where you're like aha moments
that you find in those 40 hours that are just,
I would imagine that's why you keep going back.
That's yes. Where those ideas pop right. You know, last offseason about the the laterals and then we had some other cool stuff with Lyman splits, moving them around and things like that.
So, yeah, you kind of collect that as you're as you're watching everything.
So they get asked if you ever got reigned in by Coach Campbell or he was like, that's too crazy.
But have you ever had to rein yourself in? Was there a play that you designed and you were
like this is too much? No I mean the best example would have been that that stumble
ball play from Jared I actually wanted him to put the ball on the ground. He's the one
that told me I don't know if that's the best idea so yeah yeah I mean really the players
will start bringing us back down to earth. Yeah did you did you practice it with him putting the ball in the ground?
No, he said he said no way.
Probably smart. That would have been one where if it worked, it would have been
maybe the best play ever. But if it didn't work, it would be like, this is the
dumbest play ever designed. Yeah. Yeah.
Do you do you have a certain amount of shots that you always want to take in a
game? Like you're like, all right, we got to take at least five shots or it's
been this long since we've taken a shot changes each week. Yeah. So it depends on the opponent. Yeah. Yeah. Some weeks you'll say, right, we got to take at least five shots or it's been this long since we've taken a shot changes each
week. Yeah. So it depends on the opponent. Yeah, yeah. Some weeks
you'll say, Hey, we need to one each quarter other weeks. It
might be a little bit more conservative than that. Yeah.
But yeah, I got to play call for you. Yeah, we got it's called
the fake punt punt.
Yeah, I can already tell you're intrigued. So you line up for a
punt. You fake the punt like you're gonna run a're intrigued. So you line up for a punt, you fake the punt,
like you're gonna run a fake punt.
So like maybe the guy, the punter catches it
and like pump fakes, but then he punts.
I like it.
Yeah, cause then everyone comes up
and then you get a free, you know,
if you're trying to get them to not return it,
and then you do the fake punt punt all season long.
And then finally at the end, you actually fake punt.
It's like the fake flea flicker run.
Yeah, yeah.
Fake punt punt. Yes, yes.
But just the special teams run.
Yes.
I love it.
Fake punt punt.
Yeah, now we're talking.
If you do the fake punt punt, I'd be the happiest guy.
Are you coming to OTAs this year?
Yeah, I'll be there.
Okay, good.
We'll install that.
I've seen one team do it,
I think they did it by accident in college.
Yeah. I think they just screwed up accident in college. I think they just
screwed up their puns. Those are the best ones though. Yeah. All the good ones are. No one
returned it. It just rolled down. That's right. Yeah. My overall football philosophy is that the
check down is always open on the flea flicker. Always. You can get seven yards every time on a
flea flicker. Yeah, I agree with that. Every single time you have the tight end dragon across, make a whole offense out of that. Yeah, I'm also very
stupid. I apologize. Do you like shovel passes?
Okay. Why not?
It's just been feast or famine. Yeah, I like a little bit more
consistency. Okay. I like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's a time
and place. Yeah, that's like the dabble keep them off the yeah
Sometimes shovel paths. Do you like fullbacks? Yes
Love that about you. We have a fullback award, which you are more than welcome to have a vote
I do not know that a low man trophy. Yeah, I've been doing it for I don't know six or seven
I'm a crow from Boise State when it last year really? Yeah. Yeah, you know NFL teams have fullbacks
Not a lot of them on one hand at this point.
They're coming back, but it's more like an H-back
where you have to be able to be a fullback
and a tight end and a lot of different stuff.
But there's something, I mean, what's your,
what are your thoughts on bare football?
On bare football?
Yeah, bare weather.
Chicago bare football.
Yeah, bare weather's great.
It's gonna be a weapon for us.
Yes.
Get some of these dome teams in December and January.
Be perfect. So when we big
cat watch games, sometimes we just scream at the TV that you have to establish the run. Is that is
that important to because your math guy, you know that if you run the ball more frequently, you end
up winning those games based on the numbers afterwards, which has nothing to do with getting
a lead and then running the football to drain the clock or anything like that. But what are your feelings on establishing the run?
Uh, depends on the week. Depends on the week. That's not that's not every week. Yeah. And
yeah, there's different ways to win. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Uh, the choice to come to the
Bears. Yeah. I knew you talked about a little, uh, you know, a few minutes ago, but it seemed
like it happened pretty quickly. How did it go down?
You know, obviously the loss happens on Saturday night,
and then Sunday, did you look at all your options
and then wake up on Monday and be like, all right,
it's bears?
Well, I think it started with having that first round by.
The years prior, you know,
didn't have the ability to really think through some things.
And so we had some time off and all four interviews
that I took, I was able to actually think about
going into a little bit.
And so I had a very good feel that this is the direction
I wanted to go.
I'm not saying necessarily Chicago at that point,
but I knew I wanted to be a head coach this cycle.
And then once I got on the interview and it just,
it absolutely clicked with Chicago and the leadership group
and Ryan, I love Ryan.
I felt really strongly about that place.
And so that's right when that happened,
it got off the call and it's like,
this is where I wanna go.
And so, you know, the season ended in such an abrupt fashion
give Washington a lot of credit because they did, they earned that thing. Um, you know, the season ended in such an abrupt fashion, uh,
give Washington a lot of credit because, because they did, they
earned that, that thing.
But, uh, you know, it was really planning on, on going deep in the
playoffs there and making it to the Superbowl.
So it was a tough way to go out.
And, uh, you know, it all escalated very quickly after that, you know,
had about 48 hours of exit meetings and everything and then
and then yeah it was this is what's going on and let's go ahead and get it done. Yeah, yeah. What
happens in an exit interview? The players come in they have their physicals and just make sure
they're healthy and then they'll meet as a team, offense with your position coaches and then some
guys would come come by my office
as well as the coordinator and just,
what do I need to work on or things like that.
Honest thoughts, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, it's a crappy time.
It doesn't seem like a very fun day.
Yeah, 31 teams, it's just, it's the worst day of the year.
Was there a part of you when you took
the Bears head coaching job where you're like,
I'm losing a little bit of being the hottest name every single cycle? You're like, I'm, I'm losing a little bit of, uh,
being the hottest name every single cycle. You're like,
I'm kind of giving this up cause you were, you're the hottest name.
Every time I part of me would be like,
I just kind of want to keep getting talked about like this.
Like you can't get talked about. Yeah. I wasn't really part of my thought.
Okay. That would have been part. I would have been like pros and cons.
Like people aren't going to say that I'm the next genius. You know what I mean?
There. I know I'm gonna have to prove it. I probably would have said, probably would
have pussied out and been like, I'm just going to be in an assistant.
It's good. It's good. Having undefeated as a head coach.
The hypothetical of you as a head coach was incredible. Now you actually got to prove
it.
Well, AI, AI, AI said two circles in 10 years. Has it ever been wrong? Yeah, that's facts. That's facts.
I heard that when you did the interview with the Bears,
you stopped at the last minute and you went back to them
and you just said, I want this job.
Yes.
Is that true?
Yes.
Is that the only team that you said that to?
That is.
So that was the Bears were the one you had identified,
like just so you know, this is the one that I'm interested
in.
That's right.
That's, I imagine a very powerful thing to say at the end of a job interview to somebody. I would imagine
so. Right. Did you did you feel like they they reciprocated in that moment? I think
they like that. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. All right. I got one last question. This has been
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Porsches and the Mansions and all that stuff, but did you at least buy yourself
something with the new contract? No. You didn't?
No. Here's what happened is we found a house and then my wife all of a sudden
said, she's like, well, I want to redo the kitchen. I want to redo the bathroom.
All right, so that counts? Yeah, that counts as buying something?
Yeah. That's where it's going initially. Okay. Are you
concerned about moving to Chicago? From our personal
experience, at least mine, you put on a little weight when you
move to Chicago, I need to put on some way I lose it. I lose it
during the season. I was down about 1015 pounds by the end of
the year that happens every year. That's a stress. I don't
know what it is. Maybe. Okay. Yeah, I need that diet. I don't
think that's gonna be a problem in Chicago
Yeah, keep squatting 405 man. What a bench not not nearly as much. Okay, you know Norwegian Scandinavian
So I got the thick lowers. What what was your peak squat?
peak squat
Was probably like 455. Yeah, that's pretty good to still be it like pretty close to it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, how old are you again?
3938. What about world? Yeah, we're very old. What about peak
bench way at your max? 315. So that's not bad. Yeah, I can't
get there. I'm nowhere near that now though. Where you go on
calf raises? Oh.
I could crush you on calf raises.
Last question.
How many Super Bowls do you have to win to become more
famous than Caleb Presley, who you went to the same high
school, both went to UNC?
I think you not only have to win multiple Super Bowls.
I think you got to get the trifecta.
I think you got to get three in a row.
OK.
To be more famous than him.
Yeah.
Maybe have Glennie Balls come and pump up the boys one time.
That would be nice.
On a Sunday morning.
Yes. Yes.
I like where your head's at.
I got his number.
If you need a guy, I can contact you for him.
Yeah. Just eating big bowl of ice cream.
That'd be great.
In the background.
Yeah.
You win a playoff game.
It's like the secret sauce.
You guys get hard knocks and then you give your like,
you know, big fiery first speech of the season. Glenn, he's just
sitting behind you in front of the whiteboard just eating.
Yeah. Shovell in some rocky road and bad thought. It is very
funny. You told us right before that you you would watch some
of the conversation like before games just to kind of chill out
as my pregame routine.
What else is what a world? What else do you do? Relax? Because
what he called this reverse? I feel like you're all football What else do you do to relax? What he called this reverse? I feel like you're all football.
What do you do to relax? Three kids, three young kids. I mean,
they keep me on my toes all the time. What ages are they?
Eight, five and one. Yeah. I got my hands full. It's football and
it's family. That's life right now. Love that. Yeah. All right.
Well, coach, thank you so much.
Great talking to you and let's go win some games.
I'm staying six out of 10 excited.
That's my-
That's the limit?
Gotta win.
Okay, yeah, you're right.
I said a lot of reckless shit last summer, okay?
No.
Let's go win then.
So we're gonna-
Let's go win.
I went and I looked at the process.
We made some tweaks to the process. We go win and then it gets back to 10 out of 10. I love it, I love it. Let's go. I went and I looked at the process. We made some tweaks to the process. We go in and then it gets back to 10. I love it. I love it. Let's do it. Good plan. All right. Thanks guys.
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reader. Stephen Che. Stephen Che is with us in the combine his
annual make a wish trip. He was like, Oh my god, Todd bowls down
the hallway. Why is he here? It's a combine you love it.
Chasers looking around with stars in his eyes.
I do, yeah.
It's cool to see coaches rubbing elbows.
It is one of my favorite trips that we do with you,
although we don't do a lot of trips with you,
but you do love the combine more than anyone,
and it's like getting to see it through your eyes.
It's cool to see guys in the wild, you know?
Yeah.
Real wild.
Guys in the wild.
Indy.
Yeah.
He's real wild. Who's the
like biggest guy, not physically, but the one that that you love the most that
you've spotted in Indy the last couple years that you've gotten excited about?
Oh, good question. I was excited to see Bucky Brooks of the Moons of the Six podcast, Rich Eisen.
I've been a fan for for a long time than him um so
colinsworth yep chris collinsworth we just saw on the way to to here so yeah all the guys that you
see like guys that i will watch press conferences for on youtube for the bucks and i get to see them
like you know he's not with us anymore he's alive but he's with a different team casey rogers or a
defensive line coach yeah you know it'd be cool. No, I like Casey.
Yeah, it's a big it's the biggest
week for like adults with backpacks.
I feel like I don't know that this hallway, this convention center,
it's just packs of like four people.
Remember that time we saw Rapport in his backpack?
It was so big.
He had the little shark backpack.
Yeah, no, it's a big backpack week.
It's a bit. You see a bunch of dudes that used to be in shape
are extremely well-groomed when it comes to their facial hair,
wearing lanyards and backpacks.
Yeah, lanyards, big lanyards week.
Yeah, but this is basically like my Twitter feed
and what I watch on YouTube come to life.
Yeah.
So it's cool.
Love it.
All right.
All right, guys on chicks.
It's like a fan fest, but just no.
For Steven Chen. Not a lot of fans. I do like the description of like it's his Twitter feed. Yes walking through the hallways. Oh, this is yeah
Wow, I didn't see Bonnie blue here
Uncomfortable with that one. I bought my new BF underwear for Christmas because his are old and gross
But I realized this week he hasn't opened the new pack. When I asked why he said he prefers the old
ones because he's already broken in the heat sleeve. When I asked what the heat
sleeve was he said it's the slit in the front and he calls it that because on
hot nights he'll pull out his package of sticking balls out of the heat sleeve
and sleep that way so his balls don't stick to his legs. He told me that
with the new undies the heat sleeve is too tight and he can't get fully comfortable when it's junks out
Should I leave him now or marry this man? I sounds like he's got a yeah
It sounds like he's got a I don't know. It sounds like he's also just very horny
I think he takes that out of his sleeve every night hoping that you'll roll over and accidentally touch it
Yeah, there's no real reason to pull the boys out.
I didn't think he'd go heat sleeve.
I will say in his defense, I'm a big time,
like get a package or get something
and just not open it for a while.
Like I just have boxes.
I'm just like, especially if I order something online
and I know what it is, like in my front hall right now,
I have like a hat and new shoes and I know what they are.
I just haven't gotten around to opening it.
They've been sitting there for about a week.
Yeah, I thought with heat sleeve, he was going for like,
you know, guys like to have our ass groove on the couch.
Right?
We've broken that in throughout the years.
When you get a new set of underwear,
you have to break that in too.
Yeah.
It's like, I know how I fit my old stuff.
Or it could, do you ever get the underwear that just doesn't have a heat sleeve? No, just
like a thing where you can play your dick on the front. That
would be that's that's literally what we're talking about. How do
you not know about a heat sleeve?
I don't know.
I have some underwear where there's just nothing right. You
got to pull down.
Talk about heat. Yes.
All right.
You wiggle your penis through it and then you pee.
Okay, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
You just read the question.
Why?
You just read the question about the heat sleeve.
We didn't know what a heat sleeve was until you told us.
And now you still don't know what a heat sleeve is.
How often?
Well, he was saying that it's too tight.
I'm saying that there are some that don't even have one.
Okay.
Like it's a wall with no door.
Yeah. Yeah. Let's say you're you're you're
you got a heat sleeve on and you're wearing a pants with fly.
How often are you actually going through versus going under
never I go over. I think if it's a on like 10% it's a big heat
sleeve. I'll go through there but sometimes easier just pull
down. I don't even use my fly because I know I'll just end up pissing on myself
But then it sometimes if you go over the top
It kind of pinches it off a little bit and why go balls over the top when you put it away
Yeah, you dribble out you squirt out a little bit at the end. Well, I dribble on my balls in that case
Yeah, my big ass nature's a tiny penis big balls
No side pouch, but I want one. Hey guys, my people
have sex through the heat sleeve. Yeah, definitely
Mormons. Oh, yeah, it's weird. For sure Mormons. Why would you
not just pull the whole thing down? It's a good question. Why
would you believe that Steve Young's great grandfather was
God? Why you my favorite quarterback run ever against
Vikings. Hi, my. Hi, guys. My favorite quarterback run ever against the Vikings.
Hi, my, hi guys.
My boyfriend's friends are pissed off at him
because I made him go out to dinner with me twice
last weekend, Valentine's Day weekend.
It was for Valentine's Day.
The other one was Saturday night too.
His friends say he should just continue to be a bachelor
for life, especially since they claimed he has changed
and couldn't even get him to come out to watch
USA skull fuck Canada.
Are they overreacting on him,
overreacting on him for the time I am spending with him?
Yes.
I don't understand why they were so mad at me
for making him miss the hockey game.
Well, they love him.
His buddies love him and you're a threat.
Yeah.
You gotta give him some,
you gotta give him a couple big ones
like the USA Canada would have been a good
one. Because then immediately guys are dumb. And if you if
your friend is like, Yeah, I'm coming out for USA Canada, they
be like, Oh, man, you really are dating a cool chick. I like her
on Valentine's Day. I might try to take a pass at her. That would
be a tough one to explain. Like, why are you skipping
Valentine's Day? Well, because there's this tournament that just got created that I care deep
deeper. If you're a hockey fan, you can you could make it pass.
But to be like, yeah, I got to lock in for USA, Canada.
You also. Yeah, this is partly his fault.
Like you need to the sports calendar is set.
I think most women know what the sports calendar is.
When you have like a four nations thing,
you need to do a lot of prep work.
You need to be like, hey, listen,
there's a tournament coming up.
Cause that's not something normal that's in the sports calendar.
You gotta say my country needs me.
Yeah, right.
It's gotta sound young too.
Yeah, I think so.
That's a classic young thing.
He's probably the first one with a serious girlfriend.
Yeah, you're so whipped.
You went out to Valentine's Day dinner with your girlfriend.
Yeah, that's crazy, dude.
That's so gay.
Going out to Valentine's Day dinner,
end of the next day with a new girlfriend is crazy.
Because Valentine's Day dinner, that's
going to run you $200 at minimum?
Yeah.
Are there any chance?
Are you calling chilis?
At minimum.
There's a good chance that they like each other
It sounds like they made it official. Yeah space it out. We're gone out two nights in a row
Val yes, I have
Like the event this is a situation where the guys are going through culture shock They probably all are single and then there's one guy who's got a girlfriend. You just got to ride the wave. It'll be fine
They'll also just say it was they're not serious. Yeah,, even if they are yeah, yeah, that's just how we joke
Yeah, if you have some girlfriends that are also single you should introduce them to his guy friend, correct?
Yeah, that way hook them up world's collide. Yep
All right. How much would you say my boyfriend should how much say should my boyfriend have in decorating our apartment?
My boyfriend and I are about to move in together to a small two bedroom apartment.
He has a plethora of sports memorabilia slash frat boy decor that he claims is non-negotiable
to be hung in the apartment.
Some of these items include a huge canvas of dogs playing poker.
Cool.
Awesome.
Dude's rock.
Signed Braves baseball bats. Light up vintage bush light sign.
Okay. Other beer sign. All of these count? The absolute worst of them all is a four foot bobble head of John Grun that we threatened together.
No, yeah. Send it to us. Send it to our office. Being in a two bedroom apartment does not give enough room to have a man cave.
Should all these items be up in our new apartment together.
I was, I was getting ready to take her side in this and being like, guy, he probably doesn't
want that much space. He doesn't care that much about decorating. Cause if you go over
to a woman's apartment, especially in college and compare it to a guy's, it's literally
two different species.
I think what you need to do is you need to do the right thing get him a Storage locker and be like when we have more space you will have your own space there because
But before you cannot get rid of it if you make him get rid of the four-foot bobblehead
He that will be a part of his life that will die forever. All right, but I think who does wait now there's one more
The one I texted you I'll read it. Okay. I
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Max just hold it for him. Yeah, like a fish. Well, let's just let's just send the show
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Thankfully, I haven't had to deal with this
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Same.
Love the show. I'll hang up and listen.
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Guys and girls both love tits.
Yeah, but it's AI. What are you going to do? I mean, you can't get mad at technology, right, Max?
What's yours, Hank?
What is yours? Golf? It's like 80% golf. No, there's some there's
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yeah no you can't get mad at technology take it up with Elon or Zuckerberg
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