Pardon My Take - Creighton HC Greg McDermott, CBB With Mark Titus, Everyone Attacking Take Culture And Hank’s 5th Best Patriot

Episode Date: February 23, 2024

J.J. Redick created his own full take week and we defend the fans (00:00:00-00:13:25). Big Dom was the key to the Eagles and his suspension the reason for his downfall (00:13:25-00:21:38). New MLB jer...seys are showing everyone’s balls (00:21:38-00:28:57). We debut Hank’s number 5 Patriot of the dynasty years (00:28:57-00:41:31). Creighton Head Coach Greg McDermott joins the show to talk about their big win over UConn, coaching his son, preparing for March Basketball and more (00:41:31-01:11:24). Mark Titus joins us for our college basketball preview, is this finally Purdue’s year, Cal on the hot seat and more (01:11:24-02:00:54). We finish with Fyre Fest of the week (02:00:54-02:22:39).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen, add free on Amazon Music. On today's pardon my take, we've got a twofer for the people we're finishing up our week long previews. We did NBA Monday, we did NHL Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:00:22 Today we have college basketball with Mark Titus and Creighton head coach Greg McTermay, which is a great interview, great dude. A lot of fun talking to him. We're gonna talk about whatever else is going on, maybe JJ Reddick versus The World. Hank has his number five Patriot of all time according to Hank.
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Starting point is 00:03:31 Go download it right now. Use code TAKE and you can get a no sweat bet up to $1,000 if your first bet loses. Today is Friday, February 23rd and this has been just the JJ Redick week. He's pissed off the entire world. It's his world. We're just living in it. He pissed off Pat Bev, pissed off Doc Rivers. Yeah. He pissed off not ball knowers online. Yeah. So a fan. So when JJ says like I only get 50,000 people watching an ex's nose thing, I'm one of those because I know ball. Humble brag. That's what I want. Now we like JJ Redick. He's a friend of, cause I know ball. Humble brag. That's what I want.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Now we like JJ Redick, he's a friend of ours, he's a friend of the show, but I feel like this is just JJ Redick doing his full return to Duke form. Yeah, I think he's kind of doing a little bit of a, there's a couple of things that he said that, I was like, I disagree with that. But when he goes on first take,
Starting point is 00:04:23 I think he's just playing up the fact that like everyone used to hate him and they see that face and they see him being like, I'm smarter than you. And it's like, oh yeah, that was Duke JJ Redick. I don't like him. I think it's more the Duke JJ Redick in the mindset of like, I'm the only one that appreciates like true knowledge. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:42 You guys don't understand true knowledge. Jay Billis does that from time to time too. Yes. When he gets deep in his bag on that true knowledge. Yeah. You guys don't understand true knowledge. J. Billis does that from time to time too. Yes. When he gets deep in his bag on that lawyer shit. Yeah. And sometimes we just want to watch people scream about the cowboys at each other. Yeah, and it was an interesting week for him
Starting point is 00:04:54 because he basically started the week. He bashed Doc Rivers and said, you know, he always has an excuse, which I agreed with. Doc Rivers does have a lot of excuses. We played that on Wednesday. And then on, I think it was maybe Wednesday or Thursday, he went on first take and was like, why does everyone care about what I said about my former coach?
Starting point is 00:05:14 Which, yeah, of course, if a player calls out his former coach, like we just did an entire Robert Griffin, the third versus Jay Gruden's story arc. Well, that's like everyone will always tune in if a player is like my former coach, Johnny Manziel just bash Brian Hoyer and people are talking about that. That is always going to be what people want to want to listen to. This is also the next iteration of saying something
Starting point is 00:05:36 inflammatory getting invited back on shows to defend your inflammatory thing, where now he's going back on shows and he's fighting back and he's like, this shouldn't be inflammatory. Then the discussion becomes like, why aren't we as a society smarter about what we choose to watch and take basketball knowledge? Right. And it's funny because in 2024, I would make the argument
Starting point is 00:05:57 that fans are more knowledgeable than they've ever been in any part of sports history. There is countless things that you can watch if you want to learn more about the game that you love. Like just, it's the internet. There's podcasts, there's clips, there's everything is at your fingertips when it comes to becoming a more knowledgeable fan. Unfortunately, what JJ misses is we are fans
Starting point is 00:06:20 and fans are a lot of times dumb, I'm counting myself and we like drama, we like to make knee-jerk reactions, we like to have stupid debates with our friends. It's not hard to figure out that like, we wanna be entertained. We're dumb creatures who want to be entertained, sports should be entertainment, being like why isn't anyone watching my Zion Williamson
Starting point is 00:06:43 primary ball handler clip? Yeah, I guess I'd watch it, it'd probably be interesting, but yeah, I also want to debate like, will LeBron go back to Cleveland? Yeah, also the people that end up paying JJ's salary are mostly the ones that just want to talk about LeBron, the Dallas Cowboys, the Yankees, and the Dodgers all the time.
Starting point is 00:07:00 It's like one of those things, you can't fight it. That's why this show exists, as we're dumb sports fans that were lucky enough to like be sitting in these seats talking into a microphone. And we also understand that most sports fans want to be entertained and have sports be an escape from everyday bullshit.
Starting point is 00:07:17 We can do both sides of the coin too because right now we're debating whether or not we want people to be smarter about sports, whether or not they should want to be smarter. And it got to still down to Duke sucks Yeah, Duke does suck. So yeah, that's that's the main takeaway that you can get I do think he is doing a little bit of a bit when he goes on first take. It's the heel in him He's being the right like yeah, I'm a wrestler and I you guys you guys don't deserve me on right. I kind of like that
Starting point is 00:07:39 Yeah, I like like maybe you're a little bit of a masochist when you watch TV sometimes I like it when when experts on TV are like you piece of shit walk me right now I am so much smarter than you when it comes to all this stuff. I'm like goddamn. He's owning me MJF is one of the most popular wrestlers in the world. He calls his fans poor constantly. Yeah, like we're all subs We just want to be dumb when they went Andy Kaufman went to Memphis and called everybody Hicks and yeah Yeah, like we want to be insulted and then we want to get mad at you and be like no our conference is the best conference Fuck you dude. Choke me out JJ. Yeah We do even to go step on me with some heels Pat Bev
Starting point is 00:08:14 I think is gonna be on Gonna be in the office next Friday is gonna come on PMT although I like what Pat Bev did I don't have a problem with Pat Bev having Doc Rivers back because like one thing they know about Pat Bev, if he's in your Foxhole, he's in there deep, real deep. And so he signs with a box and immediately he's like, I'm riding or dying with Doc Rivers. That's as simple as it is. Well, he's been Doc's guy for a long time.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Yeah, also a bit wild to claim that JJ's career was saved by Doc Rivers. That, I liked it though. Because guess what? That's what he is like, okay, JJ's been pretty good at shooting three pointers for his entire life. But if you get to a take first, it he is like, okay, he, JJ's been pretty good at shooting three pointers for his entire life. But if you get to a take first, it's just like, yeah, that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Doc made you JJ. I didn't look up any stats behind it, because then JJ got caught in a, uh, basically he got caught in his own trap because Pat Bev said something inflammatory and then JJ tried to back it up with stats that it wasn't true. And it, I saw the tweet and it was just too many numbers. So I just passed right over it. And I was like, no, I, Pat Bev was right. Yeah. There's a stats that normal people don't. And I saw the tweet and it was just too many numbers. So I just passed right over it. And I was like, no, I, PAPEV was right. I mean.
Starting point is 00:09:07 Yeah, there's a stats that normal people don't know how to read. Right. Yeah, right. I put a bunch of stats. I was like, I don't know if this is proving his point or not. I'm assuming it is because he posted them,
Starting point is 00:09:15 but I don't know what any of this shit is. Like we are dumb. I mean that in like a loving way. Like I consider myself not that smartest person when it comes to the sports I watch, but I love watching sports. I love the drama of it. I love the sports.
Starting point is 00:09:27 You put it on a game. You don't know what's gonna happen. That's the beauty of sports. Pat's point was you blew a 3-1 lead to us, and that's a fact. That's a fact. That's a fact. That's basically checkmate.
Starting point is 00:09:36 That's easily digestible. That's a meme. Yeah. Yeah, he wrapped him up in a meme and said, no, here's why you're wrong. And I think JJ responded to him by saying, Doc didn't save my career. I got offered that same year, like a multimillion dollar
Starting point is 00:09:49 deal for another team that I turned down. So it's like somebody else wanted me. At that point, you're like, well, actually, I'm not poor. Here's a screenshot of my bank account. And then Pat Bev wins that round too. Yeah, yeah. So at the end of the day, it's like this debate has happened many, many times over.
Starting point is 00:10:05 I think like 10 years ago, it was a more, it had more weight behind it because there weren't as many options for fans to find what they wanted in terms of content. Now, in this day and age, it's like there's everything. And guess what? A lot of times the most popular thing is the one that takes sports as entertainment and an escape from everyone else. There's plenty to go around. Plenty to go around. We should actually, we could get this even dumber with our analysis. Is JJ Reddick overrated as an announcer? I was going to say, do you guys think he's feeling himself off his promotion from last week to the A-team? No, JJ's awesome. Like, I really... I do think he's doing a character on first take. I swear to God, like that might be just me growing up on,
Starting point is 00:10:46 you know, the attitude error where I can just work myself into a shoot constantly. But if you watch it under the idea that JJ is being like the Duke smart ass, I know more ball than you. It's great TV. You should show up next time wearing an ass cut, like really. Yeah. To ask God fake prescription glasses that he doesn't need. He should just wait till Stephen A. Like says something stupid and just shove a bunch of hundred dollar bills in his mouth Or he should be like Steven a makes a good point that JJ says do you know who my father is? Yeah, that would rock
Starting point is 00:11:15 Yeah, my dad's a lawyer. Yeah, he'll sue you right now. I I'm all in for it. It's entertainment and yeah I like I like I like learning I actually saw Dan orlowski would chime in. Dan Orlowski is a perfect example where Dan Orlowski when he started his career, I thought he was a little bit boring because he was trying to teach everything and he started having more fun
Starting point is 00:11:33 and I think he's great. He's great at what he does. He's a little bit weird, but in a good way. Weird is good, weird plays. Yeah, he's showing his personality and he's like, I will stop when I see a clip of him teaching a player something, I'll stop when I see a clip of him teaching, you know, a player or something,
Starting point is 00:11:46 I'll watch it because I know it's not gonna just be droning on like, this is what you should know as a football fan. There's a little personality into it. Yeah, you got, so I like both. I like it when Dan teaches me something and I also like it when Mark Slarith pulls up a clip. He's like, you have to play man football.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Yeah. Sometimes just about being a man. We are that good. Why not both? Yeah. Why not both? That's why we have guests on this show who can tell us smart things. And then it helps us even out the dumb things that we say. Where do you stand on this, Hank?
Starting point is 00:12:14 Are you are you stand behind your Duke brethren? Are you on Pat Bev? The brotherhood. I mean, Pat Bev is my my barcel brother. I kind of got a ride with him. Yeah. But I love JJ Erick. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:24 I don't I never thought it was like a Like you got to pick a side it was more just it was funny because he did a good job of basically dominating an entire week Just based off his own takes a dick you put a reminder of the calendar next year the week after the Super Bowl say something really really Inflammatory just absolutely take over the news cycle. No, no, not the week after the after the Super Bowl. Well, the week after the Super Bowl is filled with post Super Bowl talk. Right. So this is the perfect week because there was no NBA games for three days. Yeah. But yeah, right during the All-Star break. And maybe we can do this during baseball season two at that mid summer swoon.
Starting point is 00:12:58 After March Madness. Yeah. Yeah. Let's say something really, really stupid and just get people angry. Yeah. And then just have and then we'll come back on the next show and be like, well, what we said was not exactly what you think and then say something even dumber and we got them in a trap. Perfect.
Starting point is 00:13:15 Yeah, I don't like when shows do these type of tricks to try to string everyone along and get everyone like, oh, here's a cliffhanger, you gotta tune in next week. Hank, do you have your fifth Patriot? I do. The number five Patriot of all time? My number five Patriot of all time. You know what, let's save it.
Starting point is 00:13:33 We'll save it for a little bit later in the show. We have another thing we have to talk about. Big Dom. What's going on with Big Dom? You see the report? What report about Big Dom? So there was a report out of Philadelphia that I 100% believe I do not care if this was made up. I don't get I don't
Starting point is 00:13:49 give a fuck. This is one of those things that like it passes the field test for me. The report is essentially the big Dom was a lot more than just a security guard. He was essentially Nick Siriani's emotional support animal. And when he got suspended from the sideline, Nick Siriani spiraled out of control, was fighting with players. And Big Dom is the reason why their season fell apart. And I 100% believe it. I mean, we said this in real time. It was happening. It's like Big Dom. Yeah, the whole vibe that he brings, I would not be shocked if big Dom was like have you ever seen a movie flight with Denzel?
Starting point is 00:14:28 He flies the airplane upside down. He's a drunk pilot that one. So is home burger. No anyways You saw that one so so John Goodman in that movie with the flight the plane was upside down Yeah, he flew it upside down that landed it save half the plane you need a barrel roll, 747. What was that game N64? Barrel roll, do a barrel roll, do a barrel roll. Star Fox. Yes, such a good game. Yeah, such a good game. So John Goodman is the banana boat guy
Starting point is 00:14:54 that just shows up to calm Denzel down. He's got a briefcase filled with whatever he needs. I've maybe Big Dom had like a pocket full of Xanax. It was like, hey dude, just chill out on the sideline. But. Yeah, you need another Italian to calm down the first Italian. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Like you can't have an Italian alone, just on the sideline, roaming around without an emotional support Italian. Maybe his mother. Yes. He sort of brought his mom down on the sideline. She went to Sunday Gravy. So Big Dom would not shock me if he was a reason
Starting point is 00:15:24 for Nick Seriani flying off the handle. Do you think Big Dom enjoys not shock me if he was a reason for Nick Serrani flying off the handle. Do you think Big Dom enjoys this type of press conference or press coverage where it's like Big Dom is the reason for this? He hates all of it. Not even a tiny little bit? He's probably calling up Putin being like, how do you get these guys killed? So what are your thoughts on the Big Dom story, Matt? I mean, it makes sense.
Starting point is 00:15:42 I agree with everything that you said. He's a leader in that. You talk about a leader of men, Big Dom is map. I mean, it makes sense. I agree with everything that you said. He's a leader in that. Talk about a leader of men. Big Dom is a leader of men. He's been around the program for a really long time. He's seen the ups and downs. He's probably the most well-respected guy on that sideline. And what Big Dom tries to de-escalate,
Starting point is 00:15:58 I don't think that's a word, a situation. No, it was a word. It was a Philly pronunciation. Yeah, you didn't say it right, but it was a word. Yes, yeah. De-escalate? De-escalate. De-escalate is what they say was a Philly pronunciation. Yeah, you didn't say it right, but it was a word. Yes, yeah. Deescalate? Deescalate. Deescalate is what they say in South Philly, for sure.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Yeah, no, but I think people are like, all right, big dom said to knock it off, like we gotta knock it off. And without, it's like there was no dad. It was like there was no dad to stop the fighting. Okay, so the question now, Max, is, I think. Except I also agree with AJ Brown. What did AJ Brown say?
Starting point is 00:16:25 AJ Brown. So AJ Brown has a burner that is his burner. It's like his handle with an underscore. Okay. And he said. Wait, AJ Brown has a burner, so it wasn't AJ Brown? So it's a burner, but it's, so people were like, oh, that's a fake tweet.
Starting point is 00:16:44 But then people are like, no, that's his burner. Oh oh that's a fake that's a fake tweet but then people are like no that's his burner. Oh that's actually a genius idea. Yeah. Do like a fake account of yourself. Correct. No you missed it that's just a that's an imposter but it's actually you. Okay. Yeah I gained a lot of respect for AJ Branson right now. So I tweeted about it last night and then I got people be like oh you're fake and then people being like no that's actually. Okay, so what do you see? He said, Philly media is so lame. It's literally something every day. Then the fans be believe this BS. They really should start raising the prices of microphones and cameras,
Starting point is 00:17:15 because you people will say anything for views. I see why nobody likes us because we don't even like us. Hashtag reality. So AJ Brown's basically trying to be screlly for podcasters. He's like, if we raise the price of these microphones, no one can podcast. Yeah, that's what it sounds like to me. Yeah. Uh-oh, I don't know if I agree with this, Max. We talking to microphones for a living.
Starting point is 00:17:36 No, but I don't think he's talking about us. Just actually, it's great for us because we already have the microphone so we can flip them. What if they break? I've only said positive things about AJ Brown. All right, so Max, here's the big dilemma that you have now, though.
Starting point is 00:17:49 So Big Dom is the most important person in the Philadelphia Eagles organization. I think we can all agree on that. We all agree. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You need a Big Dom for Big Dom. I got the guy. The dude that's always the guy in the stands,
Starting point is 00:18:03 the fan that has all the Philly Yeah, belly button as his nose that should be big no no see the thing about big Dom is that he doesn't need the spotlight like Yeah, I don't need the spot. Max. Well, you just found out what happens when big Dom gets suspended So next time a drae green law situation happens, you need a big Dom. That was anti Italian discrimination from the NFL. So you need so maybe you don't get an Italian to be big Dom's big Dom. So that way that if they go to Italians, you know, this guy, he's German, he can walk in and be like, Hey, stop, maybe not. He's not good at de escalating. He's Swiss. No, but if you're German, you could keep an Italian in your pocket.
Starting point is 00:18:45 True. No, I think I want like a Greek guy. Like close to Italian, but not quite Italian. Then he's gonna start taking payments under the table. Every dime. That's fine. Every dime needs a sub. So you just get like a hoagie that he walks around with. Yeah. But you realize that you need a big Dom protector. Cause he's the most important piece.
Starting point is 00:19:03 I'm willing to be the big Dom protector. Okay. You are. You would get him more fired up. Yeah, I was just gonna say, you definitely are someone who doesn't get angry easily. You would actually, he would have to become your dad too.
Starting point is 00:19:16 No. No, we don't need an Italian Max, that's the problem. We have too many Italians on the Eagle sideline. It's a combustible situation. I think maybe they need some wine. Just calm down, just have a nice glass of red. Maybe a cigar, get some cigars on the sideline. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Big Dom's an important piece of this program. And I believe that he is sorry for his actions last year, even though it was bullshit and he should have never been punished. And I think that he knows that he is important and can't be taken off the sidelines again. Yeah. So I think it's more of an accountability thing
Starting point is 00:19:55 and Big Dom knows that he is now a counter. Is it a good thing or is it a bad thing that your head coach is so emotionally fragile that he needs a security guard next to him to keep him calm at all times? Bad. But then the fact that it's Big Dom I kind of understand because if we had a Big Dom, we need a Big Dom for this podcast. We had a Big Dom.
Starting point is 00:20:11 Yeah, no, it's, it really is one of those things that we said is a joke, but we were 100% serious at the same time and we were right. Big Dom was the most important piece of this. He's holding that whole project together. Yeah. He gets shot in the stomach next to the nose. The whole esplanade falls apart. I mean, BFT said he's coming on the show.
Starting point is 00:20:31 He agreed to come on the show. Yeah, we booked him. Do you think Big Dom's gonna get maybe a little extra sauce, extra gravy, little box of ziti out of this? He deserves it all. I agree. He should renegotiate his contract. It wouldn't be the worst thing in the world
Starting point is 00:20:44 if the Eagles and Big Dom moved in other directions from each other just as a Commander's fan. That's how much I fear Big Dom. Do you think Big Dom, if like a team wanted to get Big Dom, how many draft picks would they have to give up? Oh. Fifth rounder? No, I'd say six.
Starting point is 00:21:00 I would additional, six swap of seventh. You talk about the Caleb Williams, I wouldn't take the Caleb Williams. You talk about the Caleb. I wouldn't take the Caleb Williams. You wouldn't take Caleb Williams to big Dom. On a rookie deal. Nah. Nah. The money though.
Starting point is 00:21:13 I actually, he's not crazy. Cause I want big Dom and I would maybe give up the first big one. You build around big Dom. We got our franchise security guard. Build around Big Dom. It's a great t-shirt. It actually is.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Build the whole wall out of Big Dom. Build around Big Dom. Build the whole airplane out of Big Dom. You give me 53 Big Dom's. I give you a little Marty. Is that easy? Easy. And Big Dom, to his credit, he did save your franchise quarterback from having a stadium
Starting point is 00:21:42 fall on him. Yeah. Is he the franchise quarterback? That's a good question. He didn't look like himself this year. He was hurt. Uh, there's something else going on in the sports world that I think we should talk about.
Starting point is 00:21:53 What? We're on uniform watch and baseball. Oh, yeah. Big time. People are big mad about the new baseball uniforms. Fanatics got cheap. So it's Nike uniforms. And I read an article about it.
Starting point is 00:22:04 I think I understand kind of how it works. Nike gets to design the uniforms then they send them to Fanatics to produce the uniforms. So Fanatics makes them. They put the Nike swoosh, they do all the uniform specs and they look cheap now. Like people are mad, players are mad, fans are mad. I just saw today that players are a little bit worried about their balls showing. Oh, in the new pants. And I saw one picture. It was some dude on the Giants. Wait, this is a way to grow the game.
Starting point is 00:22:29 It might be a way to grow the game for sure. Yeah. The only thing, well, you look it up, the only thing I know about this whole story is people were blaming Fanatics and then Darren Ravel tweeted right away being like, it's not Fanatics fault, which just made me think it was 100% Fanatics. Yeah. That was all I got. You don't want Darren Ravel defending you.
Starting point is 00:22:44 You're guilty as f- Yeah. It's like if you have a lawyer wearing a cowboyesse. Yeah. That was all I got. You don't want Darren Ravel defending you. You're guilty as well. It's like if you have a lawyer wearing a cowboy hat. Yeah. Like that guy's guilty. Yeah. It was just instant. I was like, yep, fanatics fault. OK, here we go.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Here's Casey Schmidt for the Giants, big cat. Look at this. Just balls. Oh, those are just two big balls. Just two big balls in these pants. He looks like Frank Gore. That's the on-dick circle. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:04 See. That's OK. So circle. Yeah. Let me see. That's, okay, so they gotta figure this out, but this is actually a good, now if I'm going full wrestling brain, this was smart by the MLB, because we're talking about him. That's true. Way to stay relevant baseball.
Starting point is 00:23:15 Way to stay relevant, just make some shitty uniforms that have everyone's balls showing. Vogleback's gonna look like Chris Christie at the NYPD softball game. Oh man, that's gonna be a problem. That's gonna be a big problem. Yeah, but we're- I actually can't, oh I should.
Starting point is 00:23:29 So people are complaining. I wouldn't mind seeing, Shwerba probably has really big balls. Oh, he's got, yeah, he's got a sack on him for sure. Respectfully, all due respect. I'd knock it out of the park. Jeff Van Gundy. Don't they wear cups?
Starting point is 00:23:42 I think he's not listening. No. Jeff Van Gundy? Yeah. Yeah baseball players were cups though, right? Uh, I don't Depends on the position. I would definitely wear a cup. I don't think like outfielders don't I would definitely work max Now you don't wear cups unless you're your catch. Yeah, you're catching. Yeah, you don't wear a cup I got it. I've gotten hit in the balls a couple times playing baseball I think that's a little league thing. You got you got the Well, they the BMGs big media I think big media clackers. Yeah, cuz cup is restrictive and running. It kind of is yeah Yeah, I don't think they wear cups
Starting point is 00:24:17 But also yeah in little league you play on fields that have a lot of bad hops and also you know You're just not good enough to stop the ball that's gonna hit your balls. Like, you know, a third baseman is not gonna let a ball hit his balls. Yeah, but have you guys seen the actual uniforms, like the tops? Yeah, they're terrible. The letters, the letters are too small.
Starting point is 00:24:36 So they, everybody has seen uniforms that they buy from China and they arrive and you're like, well, that doesn't look like the real thing. Yeah. That's kind of what these are. Well, so yeah, there's the $150 versions or you get the $25, that doesn't look like the real thing. Yeah. That's kind of what these are. Well, yeah, there's the $150 versions, or you could get the $25 version that aren't stitched. Yeah, they're not.
Starting point is 00:24:49 I saw the Mariners patch on their arm, and it wasn't embroidered. And really? Yeah. It was just like it was ironed on. So it's become such a story now that what's going to happen is people are going to find every single small part that's wrong with the uniform,
Starting point is 00:25:03 and it'll become another story and then it's just go to snowball and snowball. And all we wanna do is just fucking see how Zion Williamson is the primary ball handler. That's it. That's it. And now we're out here talking about baseball. I wanna know about the spin rate
Starting point is 00:25:16 on Mike Levinger's two-seamer. That's a good story though. We also had Johnny Manziel with an all time quote. Do you guys see this when he? Yeah, he lost 40 pounds in three months. Yeah, and Shannon Sharp being like, how'd you do that? And Johnny Manziel, he was just as honest as possible.
Starting point is 00:25:38 I was 170 pounds sitting in Vegas that August, that September, October, whatever it was later in a year how you lose 40 pounds you're on a strict diet of blow yeah fucking strict diet of blow dude what do you want me to say it's a fact I hope he's not using anymore because that that is a big problem if you lose 40 pounds and you're only like 210 pounds to begin with it's like when David Bowie had a whole entire year where he was actually, he had to be fed like a baby. All he drank was milk and hot peppers and cocaine.
Starting point is 00:26:11 Yeah, David Bowie also got so bored with having sex with women that he started banging men. Hey, listen, sex positive. Just went through every single hole. We're sex positive. All right, before we do, Hank, are you ready for your? Yeah. Number five? Wait, can we hold onto that for one second? Because Big Cat wanted to bring up,
Starting point is 00:26:28 there's two more things. Oh, okay. Just real quick, the other big storyline, Justin Fields, he went on the Steve Browns podcast. Yes. They asked him about unfollowing the bears on social media. I was right.
Starting point is 00:26:38 He said that he didn't want to see NFL highlights. Correct, he was bored of the bears, like he just doesn't want to see bears highlights when he's going on vacation. And he said, sometimes the girl that you like the most is the one that you're not following. Correct. He was bored of the bear. Like he just doesn't want to see bears highlights when he's going on vacation. And he said sometimes the girl that you like the most is the one that you're not following. Yeah. Is that true? Yeah. I didn't really understand that part of it. I don't follow Sidney Sweeney. That's that's why. You've how many Sidney Sweeney fan accounts do you follow? Wait, so you you
Starting point is 00:27:00 sought that picture out on your own. It was on a fan account. Yeah. The fan accounts are a fan account. Yeah. The fan accounts are the horniest. Always the horniest. Correction, I do follow Sidney Sweeney. Sometimes this girl- You know what? I'm gonna unfollow her.
Starting point is 00:27:13 Okay, there you go. Yeah. We'll play a little cat and mouse with her. How do you like that? That'll get our attention. Maybe it was a ploy to get the bear's attention because I bet Sidney Sweeney's gonna see this and be like, wait, why did Big Cat unfollow me? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Maybe I should reach out to see if there's a problem. We also, after everyone freaked out about Justin Fields unfollowing the Bears, we, Matt Iberfluss, debuted a new beard. So got a new coach. He looks totally different. That's good. He looks like a winning football coach now.
Starting point is 00:27:40 Like it's, he basically is like, you know what? I know this marriage isn't going well. Let me change something up. Look at him. Tell me that's not a fucking football coach now When did you hire Brad Pitt? I know? Guys hot. He's gonna win some games. So things are looking up. Sure. You Would you rather have big Dahmer a new beard on your coach new beard on your coach easy easy How many draft picks would it be? I picked on so bad. The other thing was that Charlie Woods, he's
Starting point is 00:28:08 trying to qualify for a PGA tournament today. He got, he actually didn't shoot that. Don't say the score. He didn't shoot that bad. We're a pro, Charlie. We are, Charlie. He got a 12, but he got a 12 on the seventh. Without the 12. Then he rebounded with six straight parts. That's mental toughness. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like people are talking about the 12. When was the last time six straight parts. That's mental toughness. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like people are talking about the 12. When was the last time you got an octupal bogey? And then it's six parts in a row.
Starting point is 00:28:28 And then hit six parts in a row. I bet you Tigers never done that in his entire life. Keep your head up, Charlie. Facts. Also, if you get a 12 on a hold, that just means you're not good at cheating. Yeah. You get better at cheating.
Starting point is 00:28:39 Yeah. Yeah, no, that was, listen, everyone's trying to bash him? No, he's in the next stop. You marked that in nine, and then you keep it moving. Wasn't he qualified? He was trying to qualify for a PJ event. Yeah. Yeah, the event I'm calling next week.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Oh, okay. So there you go. That would have been great if Charlie Woods had been in it. You should get an exemption. Jake, can you give him a Jake exemption? Charlie Woods, you are playing in next week's event. No, what you should do is you should just randomly just start calling Charlie Woods highlights
Starting point is 00:29:04 without anything on the screen. Here's Charlie Wood. I'll try to work that in. All right. Before we do Hanks, number five, Patriot of all time, proper number 12, Irish whiskey. That's right. Proper 12 is rich and smooth. It's Irish whiskey.
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Starting point is 00:29:49 Check it out. Okay, Hank. Actually, I have one more thing before we do your patriot. I saw a list today that I would like people to take a guess at, which maybe an insult list for some of us here. Worst win percentages in the past 10 years in all four major sports.
Starting point is 00:30:09 I don't know, Minnesota, worst. So it's all combined. Is it Minnesota the worst? Minnesota is not the worst. No, no, no, sorry. It's each franchise separate. So if it were, do you understand what I'm saying? Like the Mets would be,
Starting point is 00:30:22 it wouldn't be all New York sports would be the Mets. Oh, got it. Yeah, yeah. Anyone take a guess for number one? Which is one franchise. One franchise, but it goes across all four major sports. It's ranked. I have a guess.
Starting point is 00:30:36 The worst 25. It's not, no, this is not an insult. The first. The New York Giants. No, it was the Jacksonville Jaguars. It's kind of shocked me Yeah, I mean chaps always brings out these weird stats about the Jaguars every time they win a game and it's like Oh, this is the the first time since 1999 that they've won eight games and back-to-back seasons. Yeah, what the fuck. Yeah, so it's show me the pirates
Starting point is 00:31:00 Pirates are not on there. They were you know, they they won like 97 games in 2016 or 15, or 98 games, and that was a Schwerber homerun. Jets are number two, Pistons three, Giants four, Browns five, PFT unfortunately were brothers again. Bears are nine, commanders are 10. It's been tough. Yeah, Knicks are 11. The one that was, what was the shocking one?
Starting point is 00:31:30 Oh, the Blackhawks being 25 was pretty shocking because I guess it has been a while. Stanley Cubs. Yeah, but it's been a while since that happened. And they've been really bad since. The Lakers are 13. Really? Yeah. They were really bad in between Kobe and LeBron. A few bad seasons. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:46 But I just saw this and I was like, oh, that's interesting. Timberwolves were a 14 Hank. That was your first Minnesota team. And then everyone else, I think was clear except the Wizards. The Wizards are not on there. We had some good seasons with Paul Pierce and with John Wall. Yeah. The basketball teams are the Pistons at three, the Magic at six, the Lakers at 13, the Timberwolves at 14, Hornets at 20. That's all the basketball. So you're clear.
Starting point is 00:32:15 Surprise, the Hornets aren't higher. Yeah. Yeah, I was a little shocked at this list because the top five made sense and it really does show like the Giants and Jets two and four is pretty bad. And if you zoom out a little bit on the Giants, obviously the two Super Bowls awesome.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Maybe two of the best Super Bowl wins that you can ever have. So you've had some good times in there, but besides those, if the Giants aren't winning the Super Bowl, they're not doing shit that year. Yeah, it is funny looking at this and being like, oh, if you've won a title in the last 20 years, that doesn't mean, you know, like you'd still take, you'd still take it like the Royals were 24th. Yeah. You'd still take it.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Absolutely. 100% would take it. The Lakers, well, that didn't count as a bubble, bubble title and the Bears almost won the Super Bowl in 2018. They were just like three games away. All right, Hank. Number five, Patriot of all time as reported by Hank first recap number six Number six was defense defense was championships. He made two crucial plays Against the Seahawks one against Seahawks one against the Falcons. How come about there? It's not a high tower Number five also defense. Oh
Starting point is 00:33:22 early era first dynasty one Taper ski Swaggiest probably swaggiest Patriot maybe on this whole list. Oh, we already we already we already we already It's it's Tyler. Oh Tom Brady his house. We're Maloy Tyler Tyler Tyler. All right. Hey, so that's number five That's number five. You think he's a swaggy's patriot On this list, I think he might be Wow, can we do a top ten swag is yeah Well, I mean the Patriots aren't the swag is team. That's kind of the whole Patriot way
Starting point is 00:33:59 It's for going to offense For is going to office. Whoa, can't wait for Monday. Devlin. No. I was trying to put Kevin Falk on this list with my friends weren't weren't having any of that. Wait, it's on your list. It is.
Starting point is 00:34:17 No, I'm saying. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. For what he meant to. We have to start over. This whole list started with me being like, I've been fighting with my friends or not fighting, but like, like you know debating for the last day But if you wanted to put them on it's your list, but they they you know they show them it I Wish I could put them on this his list, but I might have to start over this feels like Hank's friends list not Hank's
Starting point is 00:34:35 It's my list. He's honorable mention that's we'll do one we'll do one member one honorable mention per show Kevin Falk is honorable mention what number is he in the honorable mentions? Two. Okay. So ahead of the lighthouse. Cause one was, who's one? Bethel Johnson. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Okay, so Bethel Johnson number one. Now we're going in reverse in terms of ranking the honorable mention guys. Mm-hmm. Okay. Yeah, I'd rather you go 10 to one on the honorable mentions. All right, I don't know if I have time,
Starting point is 00:35:07 but I can add some more. So next, so on Monday, we're gonna get the number four Patriot of All Time and the number 10 honorable mention. Yep. It was also just cool when they had a guy named Ty Law and then Lawyer Malloy also in the same backfield. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Yeah. Very cool. All right Hank, you feel good about that? Yeah, I feel good. You think people were gonna come at you? I was, I also in the same backfield. That's cool. Yeah. Very cool. All right Hank, you feel good about that? Yeah, I feel good. You think people are gonna come at you? I was, I- Well, they don't know what the rest of the list is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:33 I thought he only played in two Super Bowls. Well, he played in three, but one was 97. But he only played in two here. He only won two Super Bowls. Yeah, he was hurt in 2003. So number four, I'm gonna guess Jules no, I think we said Jules is three. No, cuz I think he's gonna go defense three I think it's gonna go like Gronk to vent. Yeah, Gronk's gonna be two. It's gonna be like either wait You think rocks me ahead of Jules. Yeah, I think so. Oh my god. I can't wait for Monday
Starting point is 00:36:00 Then I wish someone could knock me over the head right now. I just wake up and it's Sunday night We're recording the pod. It's going to be either Bruce G. Will Fork or Willie McGinnis at number three. Oh man. Why don't we're going to start going back to seven through ten? That's when you get to one then you go to ten. Okay. But I want them to go, I want them to go evens first so ten, eight and then nine, seven.
Starting point is 00:36:23 JJ wouldn't understand this level of broadcast. What a teaser. Who's it going to be? Can you tell us, does it go offense, defense, offense, offense? At starting at one? No, starting at four. Starting at four, it goes offense, defense, offense, offense. Yeah, yeah. So I think I'm right on my nose
Starting point is 00:36:47 I think Jules gonna be no it's a defense number three. Yeah, I know I think Jules maybe two no chance no chance Wow Hank is Hank is playing this from not from a level of friendship, but from I don't know a number when he didn't put Jules on the Mount Rushmore of guess. Yeah, I do remember that. But in this, that was really bad. If he would be, no matter what, he's on the Mount Rushmore. So what you're doing right now is you're bullying Hank into changing Jules to being the number two. No, Jake has the master list.
Starting point is 00:37:15 And this is also what 4 through 1 is, Mount Rushmore. So true. Buzz off. But it's still, there's a difference between 2 and 4. Big difference. I don't think so. Oh, yeah, it's Chris long on the list who gets the BCS four dozen Chris long is not on the list honorable mission. I Didn't like that he went to the Eagles after so I don't know no that really that that like I like Philadelphia more a guy way more Yeah, like he was kind of playing into him and Lane Johnson being like they have no fun over there blah blah blah
Starting point is 00:37:46 Yeah Yeah, he does he does kind of hate the page He's the only person that like want to super old the Patriots and beat the Patriots next year in a roll Who else the Garabont? He's an honorable mention though huge oh By the way ranking these one through four we forgot to mention huge oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh The 512 crazy spin zone. So if they're the number one team in the country, they're gonna want to play a first-round game No chance that does kind of rock that you get to go to home game though But still no chance if they're the number one team in the country and they have to now play an extra game
Starting point is 00:38:34 Right if you were asked like would you rather get an extra home game or be ranked in the top four and get a buy? You would take the buy but I think a home playoff game is pretty good consolation Yeah, people have been gun getting their shots in it Notre Dame not relevant They're saying mmm sad to see sat real sad to see should have joined a conference Why don't you just pony up and join a conference big ten will maybe take you Big time we'll take him in a fucking heartbeat. Okay. Let's get to our interviews We have great interviews Doug McDermott and then Mark Titus are doing college basketball preview get you ready for March Which is what a week away
Starting point is 00:39:06 Yeah, it's pretty much March. Oh a week away Can't wait. We have to wait an extra day because of the leap year. Mother fucker, but it's the third birthday part of my take That's oh, yeah a good point. That's true. We are three Okay, before we do Greg McDermott PFT. You had a quick word from one of our sponsors Yeah, before we get to Greg McDermott, he's brought you by rocket money Do you ever feel like money is just flying out of your account and you have no idea where it's going? Well, I know I'm out I'm out. We're gonna have to restart the ad Hanks brain just broke wait. I was wrong. It's a second bird. Yeah What the oh, yeah, we're not 12 years old. I was like so confused for so it would be a second
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Starting point is 00:41:18 It is Greg McDermott off of a huge, huge win. Coach, first of all, thanks for joining us. I wanted to go back quickly. Two Tuesday night, you beat number one, you con incredible game by your guys. It was also your 600th victory. So congratulations on that. And you said that it was one of the biggest wins in kind of school history and one of those big, like not tied changing wins, but one
Starting point is 00:41:43 that people will remember, we've had a couple, we've had 48 hours. Are we sticking with that? Yeah, I mean, it was, I think it was important simply because we've had six shots at the number one team in our history and we weren't able to get a win. And to do it against the Yukon team, it was playing so well.
Starting point is 00:42:03 And to your point, really important this time of the year as we move closer to the NCAA tournament, the Big East tournament. So it just kind of solidifies your resume and hopefully sets you up for seating. But, you know, from start to finish, our crowd was absolutely phenomenal. They were into it from the jump and, you know, it was one of the better environments I've ever been part of. Yeah. By the way, I did a bad job of asking that question because it made it seem like I was expecting you to be like, no, I've looked back and it's not that important.
Starting point is 00:42:31 I'm a big believer as a sports fan, as a diehard sports fan, you have to embrace the ride and those big wins. OK, maybe it doesn't end up in a national championship this year. Hopefully it does for you. But fan bases have to enjoy those big moments because those are special nights that you can't just brush off and be like, oh, it was another Tuesday night in February. Yeah. And it's, I mean, college basketball is hard. And it's, you know, trying to beat a team like Yukon is very difficult. They're,
Starting point is 00:42:57 they're elite in so many different ways, offensively, defensively on the glass. Obviously they take on Danny's personality with the way they play and the toughness that they play with. So, you have to play a hell of a game. So when you find a way to beat them, and we've been fortunate, we've had some success against them, but you don't take it for granted
Starting point is 00:43:19 because it's hard to win, especially in this league. So you go down early, they kind of punched you in the mouth right off the bat. And I feel like most teams kind of crumble because it's Yukon, they get intimidated, but whether it's Coach Hurley or their reputation, what they've done in the past, what they've accomplished. But you guys bounced back after,
Starting point is 00:43:35 can you give yourself some credit for like, hey, that's a pretty good job coaching that I did? Yeah, I don't know about that. It was a bad job coaching the first four minutes of the game because we were behind 11 to 3. But, you know, I think a lot of it was, you know, Tre Alexander and Ryan Colkbrenner, you know, Colk's been here four years, Tre, three years.
Starting point is 00:43:55 We've had success against UConn. So a lot of teams haven't. And I think because of the fact that we've had some success in the past and while we got, you know, absolutely spanked at their place, we did some really good things defensively. We held them to 62 points. Their field goal percentage there, in fact, the field goal percentage was not good.
Starting point is 00:44:14 We just were atrocious offensively, and most of it had to do with them. So I don't think our guys were concerned because we've had success against them in the past. And once we got the crowd in the game, you know all all bets were off You know it was a difficult place to play the rest of the night for you con Yeah, what one last question about you cotton. This is a Dan Hurley question. We're friends with Dan So we you know full bias out there
Starting point is 00:44:38 And we have a theory and I want to know from from the opposing coaches box When he drinks that mushroom tea at the beginning of the game and it looks like he's drinking piss, that's a little intimidating, right? I've always wondered what was in that. It's piss, it's piss. It's a fun game. And we've had some great battles with Yukon.
Starting point is 00:45:03 But at Creighton, our fans don't come to watch the opposing team play. They come to watch us play. And that's that's different than most places. But, you know, Dan, Danny does a great job. And, you know, he's he's so intense. And, you know, and I'm friends with Danny, too. And, you know, off off the floor, he's a he's an awesome guy. And the game starts and he's a little bit psychotic. But that's who he is and that's how he coaches and he gets every last bit of energy out of every one of his guys and deserves a lot of credit for the success they've had.
Starting point is 00:45:34 Yeah, and like coaches and college basketball especially because the roster's changed year to year. Like I love guys who stay a while like you you've been a Creighton for a long time That's what fans start to kind of you know They take the teams take on the image of their coach and you get a you know Greg McDermott going against Danny Hurley every year like that's fun. That that's what I that's what I like to tune into Yeah, it's it's it's it's fun to develop those rivalries and you know, and you know, we're not you're not getting anything easy You know, we're not, you're not getting anything easy. You know, we're not getting our, you know, our pet plays against Yukon. And, you know, they're probably not getting theirs against us. Just because we've coached against each other, we know each other, we know tendencies. And then at the end of the day, it comes down to players. And that's really what it's all about. Anyway, if you don't have a good, if you don't have good players,
Starting point is 00:46:23 you're not beating Yukon. You don't have pretty good players you're probably not beating Creighton so it's it's it's it's fun to have some guys that have been in the league a long time and you know those rivalries you know we certainly even though we're a long ways apart I think we've developed a pretty pretty healthy rivalry with Yukon yeah especially in the Big East it's always been about having coaches with big personalities and and ongoing rivalries that they have and the battles that they go through with each other. So in terms of the league, the Big East especially, who is your favorite coach to go up against?
Starting point is 00:46:54 Whether it's somebody that brings something different out of you or someone where you just enjoy the competition with that person? Yeah, I mean, you kind of certainly one team that I really enjoy competing against because you, you know, you find out if you're doing your job well. But there's so many great coaches in this league. You know, as you know, Ed Cooley is a great friend of mine. It's that's been well documented. And so, you know, I was, you know, he bought me dinner in Omaha this year. So it's good. It's good when he
Starting point is 00:47:20 comes to town because I can send him the check because that's that contract. Get out over there. But, you know, across the board from, you know, Sean Miller to Shakita, Thad, Thad Mada. And, you know, Sheehan's done a great job at Seton Hall this year. And right on down the line, there's it's really a league of really good coaches and a lot of good guys. And for the most part, you part, we get along pretty well. We're a basketball-centric league and we're only gonna survive
Starting point is 00:47:49 if our men's basketball programs are doing well. So it's a lot of guys have done a lot for this conference. Yeah, on that point, I know it's been a while, as I think it was 2013, you guys joined the Big East, but it's something that is now happening in college sports basically every year where teams are going up, teams are going down, there's all this transition. What was the biggest hurdle when you went from, you know, Missouri Valley to Big East
Starting point is 00:48:16 and you took that step up in class because we're going to see it many, many more times with teams going up and down, left and right? Yeah, fortunately for us, Big Cat, when we made that move, that was Doug Senior year. So Grant Gibbs, Doug, Jahans, Madagascar, Ethan Rogge, those guys were seniors. You could have taken that group into any conference in the country, and they were going
Starting point is 00:48:38 to have a chance to be successful. And I think it's so important that you have success early, and you show that you belong. And I think that group really blaze the trail for what's followed. And, you know, we had a little blip in the radar the next year, because the guys that were playing, you know, behind that group were recruited to play in the Missouri Valley. And, you know, while we didn't have a great record that year, we got better. And some of the younger guys in our program grew. But thank God we made the move in this day and age
Starting point is 00:49:10 with what's happening with mid majors and with the transfer portal. And I felt it's difficult. So I think you have to have a seat at the right table. And I'd like to think, certainly, the Big East has done a lot for our institution and our athletic program. And I'd like to think that we've added some value there as well. But the fact that we were able to get off to a good
Starting point is 00:49:28 start, finish second in the league the first year, get to the, we got beat by Providence in the Big East title game, I think had a lot to do with what the trajectory that we've had since. Yeah. How did you recruit Doug McDermott? You know, he went to Northern Iowa to start when I was coaching at Iowa State. He actually signed with Northern Iowa. Uh, and then when I came over here, we're in the same conference and he wasn't excited about playing against me twice a year. Um, but you know, I sleep with his mom. So that gives me a, it gives me an outside chance.
Starting point is 00:49:58 I was, I was setting you up for that because I knew where you were going. I knew you were going. It's a great line. I got him because I slept with his mom. Well, it's also I'm going back and looking at it. And there's a rumor out there, maybe you can dispel it, that he got tens of thousands of free meals before he had to play for it.
Starting point is 00:50:14 He got a lot of that. And actually his senior year, back in the days without any NIL, Grant Gibbs got a six year of eligibility and we didn't have a scholarship. So we put Gibbs on scholarship and Doug became a walk on his senior year. So he actually still owes me for that. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:31 That latest tuition is senior year. You think that would come around at some point, but he still has to get that check. Yeah. Interesting. So I want to go back to maybe a store memory from last year. You guys made a little run in the tournament, unfortunately didn't end the way that you wanted. It gets San Diego State, right?
Starting point is 00:50:48 And I'm curious from your perspective, do you go back, do you watch that game film? Do you try to erase it from your memory because of the way that it ended? And then moving forward, did you watch the Final Four or were you just in a place where it's like, I'm so devastated by this, I don't want to watch college basketball.
Starting point is 00:51:06 I finally watched the game on the last recruiting trip in July on the way home. So recruiting was over for the summer. I was going to go play some golf for a few weeks and I'm like, all right, let's exercise this demon and watch that game. And it was a hell of a game. It could have went either way
Starting point is 00:51:22 and it came down to the very end. I watched the Final Four, just get, I like hoops. Brian Dutch was a hell of a game. It could have it could have went either way and it came down to the very end. You know, I watched the final four just get, you know, I like hoops. Brian Dutch was a good friend of mine, obviously, Yukon being in the tournament. You know, I wanted to follow that. But, you know, it's hard to get it's hard to get on that doorstep and be knocking on that door. A lot of things have to fall right from a matchup perspective. And your team has to, you know, play at a high level. You know, and, you know, I hope we'll get back there. I hope we'll have another chance at it at some point during
Starting point is 00:51:48 my career. But I also didn't want it to define what was a very good season by that group of guys last year. So if I don't want the guys to feel like that defined the season, then I can't act that way either. Yeah. Yeah. How, uh, how often do you practice free throws with your team? Cause that's a big, that's a big thing when I'm watching college hoops. Like you got to make your free throws. And I don't know if you saw, but, we did a free throw challenge. Yeah. I mean, that was impressive. Thankfully we shoot them better than you guys. Wait, well, hold on. We waited 41 in a row with the Mulligan.
Starting point is 00:52:22 What, what did it take? How many hours? 16 hours. 16. 16, a row with the Mulligan. What what did it take? How many hours 16 hours? 16 a lot of free throws coach 41 I mean was Frank was Frank involved in that or is he not part of no Frank wasn't very nice to me after that seat and haul game in Jersey That's listen somebody sent me that the dude killed me That's what that's when you know you've made it though. When Frank the Tank has shown his ire at you, if you're in sports, it's like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:52:48 I finally got on his radar. But yeah, we listen, we 41 free throws in a row. Do you practice them every single day? Because I hope so. We do. OK. Our guys have to make a certain amount of free throws in a row before they leave practice every day.
Starting point is 00:53:02 How many? Sometimes it's eight, sometimes it's 12, sometimes it's 14. Just kind of depends what, you know, where the clock's at at that particular time. But fortunately we've knocked on wood. I hate to say it, but we've been a pretty good free throw shooting team. So if PFT and I were on your team, we would actually be your best players because we'd never leave practice. We just always be at practice.
Starting point is 00:53:23 First and last out. How long would it take you guys individually to make 12 in a row? 12 in a row. Big K can get hot. Yeah, I could make 12 in a row. I'm not what you call a basketball player. So it would probably, if you asked me to make eight in a row,
Starting point is 00:53:36 it would probably take me five, six hours to be able to accomplish that. But it get done. Yeah, it could get done. Yeah, a guy that's in the gym, though. Yeah, it could get done. Well, one other thing's in the gym though. Yeah, it could get done. Well, one other thing that I've seen you do coach, and I'm not sure if you can still do it,
Starting point is 00:53:50 but I saw a video of you dunking at practice. Can you still dunk? I haven't tried for, my goal was to do it when I was 50. And I did do it when I was 50. May or may not have slipped a women's basketball onto the rack. Sometimes I'd practice with a manager of the year, but I was able to get it done. And, and, but, you know, now my, I don't want to blow an Achilles or a hamstring trying to do something stupid at 59.
Starting point is 00:54:16 So I've shelfed that one. Well, what about if you win the championship, if you win the Natty? Will you try to dunk again to celebrate? I will. I will do that. OK. If we win it.ty, will you try to dunk again to celebrate? I will. I will do that. Okay. If we win it. I like that. Yeah. You could come to our, you can come, we'll host you and we'll have a big, you know.
Starting point is 00:54:31 Done. Greg McDermott dunk off. Yeah. All right. So now we might be rooting for you. We're going to need an elite physical therapist to do some stretching before and after. We can get you. We can get you.
Starting point is 00:54:43 But we can get it there. Yeah. We can get it. Yeah. Um, how many we can get it there. Yeah, we can get it. Yeah. Um, how many times have you had McDonald's with Warren Buffett? Uh, never. What? But you, you see, uh, you know, you see Warren in a restaurant in Omaha once in a while.
Starting point is 00:54:59 He was, uh, he doesn't come around a lot to games, but he was, uh, he was at Doug senior night. He was very upset with the official that called that file against us again on San Diego State last year. And he made it well known, but obviously he's done a lot for this community. Yeah, it would be great if you went out to eat with him and you picked up the check. That would be such a power move, wouldn't it? Yeah, that would be a big time power move. Yeah, if I saw him eating in a restaurant, I'd just point across the table, I'd be like,
Starting point is 00:55:26 hey, I want to cover that guy's build. I got this. Yeah, I got it. Yeah, so going back to Doug real quick, we see it obviously all the time in college basketball. A lot of times, they'll be, the coach will have their son on the team. But very few times, you know, you guys have the success that you guys had together. Was it hard coaching your son and kind of balancing that where it's like he's one of the guys but he's also your son
Starting point is 00:55:52 and you have to maybe there's moments where you're sitting there watching the game and you're just proud of your son but you're like wait I'm coaching a biggie's basketball team I got to snap out of it. Yeah you know know, there were some things the first year that were challenging. I think more so for Doug than probably for me. It was very important to him that he was treated like one of the guys. And, you know, I remember a specific time
Starting point is 00:56:17 one of his teammates telling me that after a really hard practice, you know, he walks in the locker room and all of a sudden everything goes silent. And Doug's like, now wait a second, you know, I think he the locker room and all of a sudden everything goes silent. And Doug's like, no, wait a second, you know, I think he's an asshole too for what went on today. So I'm with you guys. But you know, when, when Doug asked me and said that, you know, that, that I want to, I want to be treated like everybody else.
Starting point is 00:56:39 I said, I can do that. But when I tell you to block out, you can't look at me like I told you to take the garbage out and you don't want to do it. Like if this is going to be coach and player, then it has to be that from your perspective too. And it was a challenge for Doug because for the first 18 years of his life, my voice was his father's voice. And then all of a sudden it's his coach's voice.
Starting point is 00:56:59 And you know, because in college coaching, you don't have an opportunity to coach your kid in junior high and you know, you're doing your job. So I didn't really coach Doug much outside of driveway stuff until he got to college. But once we got to that point, it was great. And NBA scouts that came in and watched us play, watched us practice when he was a junior and senior, they'd said many times, if we didn't know it, there's no way we'd know your father and son by watching you interact and practice. That's the way he wanted it. That's the way I wanted it. And it's, obviously, it was a really special time. I probably didn't embrace it and enjoy it as much when it was going on because you're in the grind. But looking back on it for both of us, it was a pretty special time.
Starting point is 00:57:43 Yeah. When you got the nickname, Dougie McBuckets, were you like, that's a cool nickname? Or were you like, chill out with a nickname, son? Yeah, that's a pretty good. That's a pretty cool nickname. And, you know, and I get called from high school, more high school coaches, but some college coaches have called me as well that we're contemplating coaching their kid.
Starting point is 00:58:00 And obviously it's different in high school because, you know, he goes home with you every night and you're at the dinner table every night. But it's easy if he's your best player or a guy that doesn't play very much. People got pissed off if I took him out of the game at Creighton. So that was never really a problem. Yeah. I have an ex's nose question for you. This kind of goes back to you, but when you have a team that can shoot well from the outside,
Starting point is 00:58:28 how do you make them worse at shooting? Because it seems like it's something very difficult to do that a lot of coaches try to do, but very few can accomplish. You know, we're trying to limit the amount of three-point shots teams get. You know, everybody has a defensive philosophy and, you know, you can't get a pressure, they're going to try to force you into turnovers. And obviously it works really well for him. We try to send everything to Ryan Colkburn or the rim and try to, you know, make sure their best shooters aren't getting a lot of looks from the three point line. And I think they're, you know, caravan and Spencer, they're two best shooters the other
Starting point is 00:58:59 night only had five three point attempts. So that's what we're trying to do. And obviously we spend a lot of time in practice running guys off the line and making sure you're not getting hit by screens to try to accomplish that. And some games it works better than others, but fortunately for us the other night it worked really well. Yeah, I like the word philosophy too.
Starting point is 00:59:18 It's kind of like culture, but every coach has their different philosophy on how to build a team and how to play. What would your philosophy be if you were to distill it down to like one thing about basketball? Well, I mean, offensively, it's freedom. I like that. You know, we'll do a lot of different gimmicky stuff,
Starting point is 00:59:39 defensively, how we guard a ball screen, what we're going to do. We'll go over a screen on one guy, under a screen on another. But offensively, our guys have the freedom to play and the freedom to shoot, you know, we take some crazy shots from six feet behind the line at times. But we also practice those shots. So, you know, and, you know, everybody recruits to how they're trying to play, we want guys that can really shoot the basketball that can handle it, that can pass it,
Starting point is 01:00:05 and that have a good at basketball IQ. And that's what we've been successful with. And that's what we'll continue to try to do moving forward. Yeah, so speaking of freedom, how many shots in a row does a guy have to make to allow him a really terrible heat check shot? It depends who it is. Yeah, that makes sense.
Starting point is 01:00:24 You know, Stephen Asworth had a great start to the game the other night. You know, the transfer from Utah State has played awesome here the last you know, 10 or 12 games. But I had him do a drill in practice that I talked about in the post game the other night that I used to have Doug do where you couldn't you have to make five in a row or five shots from five spots. And if you missed two in a row, you have to go back to the beginning and start again. And he made 33 in a row. Wow.
Starting point is 01:00:47 And so he said, oh, what should I do now? Am I done? And I'm like, no, if you're gonna shoot those crazy shots, eight feet behind the line in games, let's back up and practice some of those. And he had a couple of bombs the other night. So, but our guys have a lot of freedom. They know it.
Starting point is 01:01:03 And, you know, I think it does something to the opposing defense when they know that a guy can pull from 28 feet anytime they want. I mean, that puts a little bit more pressure on our opponent's defense. OK, so counterpoint to that question. If you have a guy that has, how many shots in a row does a guy have to miss before you're like, hey,
Starting point is 01:01:20 there's limits to our freedom here. We need to reel in some of this freedom. Yeah, yeah, I mean, there's the old coaching saying that the last thing you wanna do is tell a bad shooter to shoot. But, you know, if our guys, if they can shoot it, you know, and a lot of times you have to talk guys off the ledge and remind them that, you know,
Starting point is 01:01:41 the best shooters in the world, you know, miss over half their shots. My son is one of top 10 or 15, three point percentage shooter in NBA history, and that's at like 41%. So he's missing six out of 10. So that doesn't mean you make two out of every five. You're gonna go six of seven,
Starting point is 01:02:03 and then you're gonna go one of seven It just happens But you trust your work you trust your preparation At the other side of me is is if you know if a guy like Baylor Shireman is miss five in a row I like his chances on the sixth one that he's gonna knock the next one down. Yeah. Yeah How's what's the fastest you've ever pulled the guy out of a game because I love old-school college basketball coaches? Yeah, yeah, there's it's been it's been seconds before. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:30 Yeah. I mean, yeah. I mean, it's been a while. But, you know, something stupid happens on the first play that you've you've gone through a hundred times and a guy screws it up. It's, you know, let's get him out of there. That's what one of my favorite. I'm a Badger fan and Bo Ryan used to do that all the time where he would just like, you'd be 20 seconds into a game
Starting point is 01:02:48 and someone would get yanked and you're like, all right, so he's either. Yeah, Bo didn't mess around. I knew Bo and I've known each other since his division three days. So yeah, he didn't mess around. Yeah, I like that move. What do you tell the guy when he gets pulled?
Starting point is 01:03:00 He's a starter and he gets pulled like 10 seconds into the game. You just sit him down and you're like, hey, we've been over this year. Like, what are you doing? If that happens, you don't have to say a word. Yeah. Message received.
Starting point is 01:03:11 Yeah, he knows what he's doing. He knows exactly why he's coming out. Yeah. Yeah. So, I guess, this is a tough question to ask, and I'm curious to know if you're going to actually answer. What is the expectation for you in this postseason this year? Well, I mean, the first thing is you got to get there.
Starting point is 01:03:33 And there's teams that have high expectations going into season, and it doesn't work out, and they don't make the tournament. So we're always gearing ourselves to play our best at the end of the year and build towards February and March. Make sure your body's healthy, their mind's in a good spot. You know, and the NCAA tournament is so much about matchups. And, you know, everybody talks about seating. Seating to me doesn't mean much unless you get to play close
Starting point is 01:04:06 to your backyard. But it's about matchups. So I know that the guys that decided to come back, Baylor-Sharman came back for his fifth year, Alexander and Colkbrenner tested the NBA waters last year and decided to come back. They want to get back to that game. They want to get back to that moment
Starting point is 01:04:23 and have a chance to try to knock the door down and get to the final four in the first time, first time in creating history. So I know that's what they're thinking. I'm thinking about the next game and the next play. I think as a coach, if you think any other, any other way you're asking for trouble. So do you guys pay attention to Ken Palm at all? Any guys in your office? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:43 You know, my staff's looking at that all the time. And, you know, because it's it measures a lot of the things that at the end of the day analytically, we're trying to measure anyway, you know, how are we performing in comparison to our to our peers. And, you know, there's it also gives us some information on, you know, what percentage of our shots or three point shots, is it what we want it to be? And on, you know, what percentage of our shots or three point shots is it what we want it to be? And on the other side, are we making sure our opponents aren't shooting high percentage there? You know, we don't force turnovers. We don't shoot a lot of free throws, but we don't file. So our opponents don't either. So those are things that we're constantly looking
Starting point is 01:05:18 at. Well, I got some good Ken Palm stats for you good. You can tell the guys. So I saw this the other day. It's as of Tuesday. According to Ken POM, the last 20 national champions have all been top 25 and adjusted efficiency margin, top 37 and adjusted offensive efficiency, top 38 and adjusted defensive efficiency, top 45 and strength of schedule rating. This is as of Tuesday. The teams that follow under those categories are Purdue, Arizona, Tennessee, North Carolina, Marquette, Michigan State, and Creighton. So you're in there. And as of right now, you have the balance of the team, you know, both offense and defense and played a very good schedule. I don't know. I you could tell your guys that maybe you don't want to, you know, maybe you want to do what you just did saying,
Starting point is 01:06:05 hopefully we get into the tournament. I'm news, I'm going to break some news to you. You're going to be in the tournament, but that's kind of cool. Yeah, it sounds like if they get any coaching, they're going to be in good shape. Yeah. Yeah. Now it's up to you. You have the guys. No pressure.
Starting point is 01:06:19 Try not to screw it up. Yeah. Try not to screw it up. Stay out of their way. Yeah. So here's an easy question for you. What city would you like to retire and more? Omaha or Columbus, Ohio? What do you think is better retirement destination? That is a, that's a cagey question. Yeah. You know, I've lived on a golf course here in Omaha. So and I like the golf
Starting point is 01:06:43 course. So, you know so it would probably be Omaha. OK. OK. Good answer. That's a good answer. Good answer. I have one last question for you, coach. This has been awesome. It's the Roeback question. RoeBACK.com, use promo code TAKE, 20% off your first purchase. QZIP, Polo's, Hoodie's, Jogger's, great Polo's for the golf course. RoeBACK.com, promo code TAKE. I think I know the answer to this, but maybe you can explain it. I love college hoops. I actually love, I love the first two days of March Madness, but conference championship week is my favorite. How much more difficult is conference championship week than the actual tournament? Because it feels like every year, that's when it's like
Starting point is 01:07:20 the, this is all these teams know each other back back to back games, it's the toughest, as tough to get. Like what is the preparation when you're going into the Big East tournament versus March Madness? Yeah, I mean, to your point, it's so difficult because there are no secrets. And hopefully you don't play on that first night. It's three games in three days without a chance
Starting point is 01:07:44 to breathe in between and against teams that really know you. And in our league, and I turn on some of the other conference tournaments when you're sitting around, like the garden is jammed. It is packed. It is an incredible environment, especially if we're playing something from the East Coast. It's a hard environment.
Starting point is 01:08:04 You're essentially playing a road game. but it's really, really challenging, but it's also really special. And you can, you really sense it, you know, how important the Big East tournament is to the schools in the Big East, you know, that to actually try to win that tournament. I think some conference tournaments, why they're important, you know, they're kind of looking ahead to win that tournament. I think some conference tournaments, why they're important, they're kind of looking ahead to the NCAA tournament. But in the Big East, it's huge to have an opportunity to win that.
Starting point is 01:08:32 And we played in it nine years because one year got wiped out by COVID. At least we played a half in that year. But, and we've been in the championship four times, we just haven't won it. So for us, we'd like to knock that door. Yeah, we've talked to a couple biggies coaches about that tournament and I'm always curious to know,
Starting point is 01:08:49 do you hold anything back at all? Or is it just like, let's go full send during the tournament and then we'll regroup and figure out what we wanna do for the round of 68? No, all you gotta do is watch a game, it's so high level. And everybody's trying to win. No, I was gonna do is watch a game. It's so high level and Everybody's trying to win. I don't think there's anybody holding and anything back and you know even Villanueva I think their national championship teams. I think they won the Big East tournament both of those years and you know, you kind of got beat I believe in the semis last year, but it's
Starting point is 01:09:21 You know, you it's it's hard basketball, but it's also an incredible, incredible experience for the young guys to get an opportunity to play in it, especially in the garden and the Big East tournament. Yeah, I love it. I love it. There's no better time than March. Coach, thank you so much.
Starting point is 01:09:36 Listen, if my team can't win, maybe I'm rooting for you to come to our office and dunk one last time. I think you can dunk. I think you can do it. I've seen you running up and down the sidelines. I think you can dunk. I think you can do it. I've seen you running up and down the sidelines. I think that you've still got some bounce of those legs. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:50 If I'm chasing a referee, maybe I have a little more adrenaline at that point. But if it, guys, if we get there, I'll be there. I appreciate it. OK, we can get a ref for you that you can chase around. We'll get someone in a ref, you know, and just like yell at you. And then you can chase them in dunk. But thanks so much, coach.
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Starting point is 01:10:58 Golden Colorado. And now here's Mark Titus. And now for something completely different. Okay. It's time for some college basketball talk. We have our colleague. Whoa. It's not weird to say anymore, but it is probably maybe a little weird for AWOs because we haven't had you on
Starting point is 01:11:17 since I think. I think it's been a year. I think it's been around a year because you've been at Barstool for almost a year. Yeah, I think I came on like right when I signed on. Yeah. So it is Mark Titus. We can have him on more frequently than that,
Starting point is 01:11:28 given his outbursts in the past. Yeah. All the comments. All the loose cannon. The comments, the things that we've had to bleep out after the fact. Yeah, it's easier to book him now. Can just be like, hey, you want to come on.
Starting point is 01:11:38 And it's been almost a year. So we basically hired you because we're like, at some point, we're going to have to do a free throw challenge We've done that so I'm Unfortunately, I'm gonna hear to tell you that your contract is gonna expire and you're not you're not gonna be renewed bring it back like Mantis for a day Yeah, yeah, how you feel we learn we learned that we don't we don't actually need you as badly as we thought we have Mantis now Yeah, you're welcome. We're like that boy straight. Yeah. Yeah.. Yeah. So that was, you've had a lot of welcome to Barstools. Your first week here was the first week of March Madness.
Starting point is 01:12:13 Yeah. And I remember so vividly walking into you in your studio in the old New York office. And you had, it looked like you had just come back from Vietnam. You had a million miles stare and I was just like, you're right, dude. And he's like, that was just a lot.
Starting point is 01:12:28 And I was like, you should go home to LA for a couple of days. But now that you're comfortable, it's not a bad place, right? I love it. I absolutely love it. It's been awesome. The free throw stream was so fun. I did, I mean, you said this too,
Starting point is 01:12:43 that like I went home, I was exhausted. I went to bed immediately, slept forever. I woke up and the first thought I had was, I want to get back on the line. Yeah, with the boys. I miss it. I miss it. I just want to get back there. Yeah. No, this place is incredible. It's like every day is a circus in a good way. But yeah, there was an adjustment period and getting thrown into the gambling cave out of the start was very difficult because, yeah, my memory was like day one, Dave asked me for a pick. I kind of, I didn't even, yeah, I don't watch basketball in that way. So like, I was just kind of like, I don't fucking know. Kentucky, I guess. I think Kentucky played
Starting point is 01:13:23 Kansas State and they won. Yeah. And then I went home, I went back to the hotel and I was like, thank. Kentucky, I guess. I think Kentucky played Kansas State and they won. And then I went home, I went back to the hotel and I was like, thank fucking God, that's over. And then the very next morning, I was in line at Starbucks and Dave was behind me and he's like, Titus. And I was like, oh, what's up, Dave? And I was waiting for the pad on the back
Starting point is 01:13:36 and he just goes, give me another pick. I was like, fuck. I was like, oh, fuck again? Yeah, dude, it's day two. Another one. Then you're his guy and that's a dangerous place to be because you can get the axe immediately. Right. You're on the radar.
Starting point is 01:13:50 I'll be better prepared this year. Yes, we were watching day one of March Madness last year and there was a lot going on. There were a lot of games. You went through some ups and downs right off the bat. I don't think you'd been in like a gambling environment like that before. What adjustments are you going to make for this year's March Madness? I'm gonna be more aware of spreads. That was something that I, it's already hard enough trying to decide who's going to win these games. Yeah. But I'm gonna
Starting point is 01:14:15 be more in tune with that. I also learned that like nobody actually, yeah I don't know, it was difficult because nobody gave a fuck about the basketball. Everybody was just like, like, watch it. Like a big Evan, I got into a little dust up one. I have a memory of that because he was just screaming like, how do you call that fucking foul? And then I just like, in retrospect, I shouldn't have, but I was like, I mean, heavy, he hit him right on the arm as he was shooting. And he was like, I know that, but I don't give a fuck. How do you cut it? There's no rational. I realized like, ah, okay. So we're, we're kind of approaching this a little differently. Um, yeah, I don't know. I guess I'm just going to gamble heavily. Yeah, maybe that's really, I gotta get into the trenches
Starting point is 01:14:54 with the boys. It's like if you, if you can't beat them, join them. Yeah. You know, so just yeah, you'll become one of those people eventually. Yeah. Come everything. Yeah. So, so let's talk some college basketball. This has been a very fun season. It feels like very wide open, kind of similar to last year. UConn is the best team, you would say right now, but they just lost to Creighton by a billion. What are your big picture thoughts going into the conference championship week in and the tournament for someone who maybe doesn't watch college basketball is trying to catch up. I think I want to kind of say everyone sucks but that's not a good way to get people into the sport or anything.
Starting point is 01:15:31 Not everyone sucks. Yeah. I think everyone sucks on the road. Everyone sucks on the road. That's the thing. That's hard because like you want to you want to get excited about teams but then even Kentucky's a good example is like Kentucky goes to Auburn. A very hard place to win. They looked awesome. And you're like, oh my God. I've gotten to the point where I only almost look at road performances because the home court will lie to you.
Starting point is 01:15:54 So Kentucky looks awesome at Auburn. I talked myself into them. And then last night they looked like dog shit. Yeah. It was jealous of you. So yeah, not everybody sucks. It's just everybody has very obvious weaknesses. And you know, a week ago it was Purdue and Yukon and everybody else. And now I mean
Starting point is 01:16:11 Purdue loses at a bad Ohio State against a bad Ohio State team. Yukon got blown out. Yeah. That was due. I felt it was due. And they needed that. I think I think Yukon, I think UConn beat the hell out of Marquette, the conversations about is this team better than last year, way too premature for them. And I think that was rat poison. Is it saving this? Yes, rat poison. Yeah, that was rat poison.
Starting point is 01:16:35 Yeah, but you're right. I mean, the road games are tough. Kentucky's a good example. I mean, that was an incredible ending where they finally, Kentucky finally hit a big shot at the end of a game and then they just stop playing defense which they never really started playing defense this year no they I don't think they've like ever been like let's start playing defense right they just started the season and they're like oh yeah there's other half of this game whatever yeah is Cal on the hot seat for real this time oh dude it's I mean it
Starting point is 01:17:02 actually like no it feels like it might be for real. At some point the meme becomes the reality. Yeah. And I, they're not going to fire him. He has a lifetime contract, so I think they have to kill him. I think they have to. He'll do that.
Starting point is 01:17:16 They have to actually execute him. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, like it does feel like there might be a conversation where they're like, Cal, are you sure you want to do this still? Like, Cal, how much longer do you want to live? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:28 There might be a friendly nudge. They might try. But I think the AD loves them. I don't know. The Kentucky fans are absolutely ready for a change, though. Absolutely. Well, it also hurts that this is a very talented Kentucky team. And then they have Reed Shepard, their point guard,
Starting point is 01:17:46 who's from Kentucky, who's like every Kentucky team, like Wet Dream, who's really good. And they're like, this should be everything. And they just don't play. This feels like it should be a vintage Cal team. Because the last couple of years, they haven't even been that bad the last few years, to be honest. They lose the same Peters, which was very, very bad.
Starting point is 01:18:03 But they were a two seed. I think when you look back on the last few years at Kentucky, it feels like they were like 500 the last few years, you know, and they haven't been that they've been good. They just haven't been Kentucky good. And then they fuck it up in the tournament. Um, but cow went away from like what made his teams good, which is like the one and done stuff. And like, I'm just going to overwhelm you with talent. And he started going to the transfer portal and he's getting Oscar Sheeboy and Shavir Wheeler and guys like that, that didn't really work out for him.
Starting point is 01:18:29 He hit a hard reset and this team is all guard oriented. They're all young dudes that are gonna be like NBA players. He has like five future NBA players on this team probably. If not more than that, probably more than that. Everything about it feels like a vintage John Calipari team. So if he fucks this up, like, I mean, you're kind of out of like, I don't know if excuses, but you're out of like paths for him to get it back.
Starting point is 01:18:54 Like if he fucks this up, he's completely lost the magic. And it will be, I mean, it's already been a decade, but it's like, we're on 12, 13 years. They won a title. What is the fuck up for him this year? Like he has to do it. The sweet 16 final four? I mean, I would have thought if they should have,
Starting point is 01:19:11 they should be competing in the SEC. Like they should, there's kind of, I mean, the SEC is good. So I don't want to say there's no excuse for them not to win the league. But like they, the fact that they're not even going to come close to winning the league is crazy. They have to make at least the sweet 16, at least, at the very least.
Starting point is 01:19:27 I mean, they're not a national. And if they get spanked in the sweet 16, then it's like he fucked us up. Right, right. And I guess that's the hard part of what evaluating this stuff is you always move the goalposts. And he loses the national championship by five, and you're like, fucked it up.
Starting point is 01:19:39 Fucked it up. Right. We're supposed to be Kentucky. Right. What about Purdue? Talk to me about Purdue. OK. I think there's nothing in sports
Starting point is 01:19:45 that you enjoy more than Purdue losing. Purdue losing at the right time. Yeah. Purdue's a sick joke to me. Yeah, it's a sick joke. It's the greatest today this year, because they're the only team that can win it all from the Big 10.
Starting point is 01:19:57 Right. We've been talking about the Big 10 forever, needing a national title. It's going to hurt us. So can they win it all, or are they going to fuck it up? They can win it all. I think this Purdue team is better than last year. They, the guard play has, has, first of all, their guards are older. The two white kids that were freshmen's
Starting point is 01:20:14 last year, they, they are older and they're way better. Like Brayden Smith last year was like a game manager more. And now he's, he's actually a stud. And then Lance Jones, the kid they got in the transfer portal is fucking awesome. So I do think that Purdue is going to make a final four. I think they're better. But what worries me about Purdue is like, they just can't resist being Purdue. And I don't mean that as like a LOL Purdue meme.
Starting point is 01:20:41 Like I like watching them against Ohio State, they're one of the best three point shooting teams in the country now. Last year they couldn't shoot for shit. Now they can, they're hitting threes. They shot nine threes against Ohio State because they just cannot resist just trying to dump it into ED over and over and over.
Starting point is 01:20:56 ED's awesome, but I don't know what their plan be. They don't give you confidence that they have a great plan B. And that's what worries me about Purdue. Purdue's good though this year. They're better than they have been in these horrific exits. And I know the reason why I know this is because it's shifted now to last year was like,
Starting point is 01:21:19 well, their guards are so young. Are they going to be able to stand up? And they obviously didn't. It's basically like wait till Zach Eadie gets officiated different in much madness. That is a sign that it's like, oh, they actually are pretty. They are good. No, they are good. We're clinging to that.
Starting point is 01:21:34 They can definitely win a national championship. I just, yeah, like it's, you know, on the house, they think it's one game and, you know, you don't wanna put too much stock in one game. And they have been awesome all year. But yeah, I do worry that that's just like, they just become so ED dominant that the rest of the guys are just staying around watching.
Starting point is 01:21:53 But they are good. They are legitimately, they address their problems from the off season. I just like when push comes to shove and assholes start getting tight in the NCAA tournament game, they're just gonna revert back to what they know, which is dumping it into the post, which is great. But, you know, it's a guard oriented game in March
Starting point is 01:22:11 and teams will, like that's what fairly Dickinson did. That's when we were laughing at Dave. Yeah, and the family came, but Dave just kept yelling they're too small. That's exactly what happened. And I still think the recipe to beat Purdue is the exact same, even though they've gotten a little better. And I still think the recipe to beat Purdue is the exact same, even though they've gotten a little better. And everybody knows that. Like that's the
Starting point is 01:22:29 other thing that worries me about that is like every single team knows how to beat Purdue. There's going to be no, you don't need like the quick turnaround of scout of like, oh fuck, we're playing Purdue. Like what do they do? What are their tendencies? Like I feel like every team in the country knows how to beat them. But the good thing for Purdue fans is like executing that is going to be difficult. Yeah. Yeah. Best league in the country, big 12. Yeah. The big 12 is the best, but like I don't find it the most interesting. I think like big East and the... Well, it's because Houston is at the top of this. Yeah. It feels like they're not...
Starting point is 01:23:00 Houston is great. It feels like they're not yet big 12. Well, and they're great and they're, but they're hard to walk. They're hard to 12. Well, and they're great, but they're hard to walk. They're hard. You watch the Iowa State. Yes. Yeah, they're hard to walk. Both those teams are really good. I kind of love that game, though, because they were just
Starting point is 01:23:12 beating the fuck out of each other for a while. Yeah. But I think that is why the Big 12, like, it is the best conference. But when it's Houston instead of Kansas up top, it just feels different. And I know Houston fans get mad about that, but it's just the facts.
Starting point is 01:23:24 Yeah. I'm still trying to make sense of Houston because I their defense is unbelievable. They're so good But yeah, I the Jamal shed is awesome and and and cryers great like I do like their guards their guards are It's gonna be interesting because I I wonder how much offense they can generate I wonder if shed and cry are guys that you can, that can just pull something out of their ass offensively when they need to in March. And I don't know if they are, but they could, I could see them being that.
Starting point is 01:23:56 Like I don't, it's really, I don't know. They're like right at the line for me of like, how talented did you need your guards to be offensively? Defensively, They're fucking incredible but Like the Houston flame out in the tournament feels like they lost a game like 53 to 49 right they couldn't score But they played great defense right I'll rebound him by like yeah 20 rebounds. Yeah, yeah Yeah, like it's just a disgusting game. They go like 21 percent from three
Starting point is 01:24:22 Yeah, and they but they still take they took like 20 of them because they're like we're death. Right. Right. But no, I like Houston a lot. And I think the fact that they went to the Big 12 is going to help them immensely obviously because they're in a tough conference and they're playing well. What I do love is there's so many fans that were that are fans of teams in the Big 12 that kept saying to Houston, like just wait till you play to real conference, just wait, just wait till 2024. You're gonna feel what real basketball is like and they come in and they're still really fucking good.
Starting point is 01:24:52 We're gonna win your league. Yeah, yeah, I respect that. What about Texas? Chance, also, why is his name pronounced Ace-Mess? I don't know, I never understood that. He's really fucking good. Yeah, he is. So he can tell you how to pronounce his name
Starting point is 01:25:06 Whatever way he wants, but a b. How does that make the I've never I've never really understood that I don't know that the problem with the big 12 for me is there are a lot of teams that but but it's that way Kind of across all college basketball because like there are good teams Certainly and Texas is one of them, but I know I don't think Texas is a Final Four or winning it. Like they're not a serious national title contender. Yeah, they're in the middle of the big 12. Yeah, and like all those teams are kind of that way. Like I don't, I would say Houston's really the only team I think has a shot at winning. Like Iowa State fans won't want to hear that. Kansas is supposed to be good, but like I think even Kansas fans kind of realized that
Starting point is 01:25:44 this team's not it. Yeah. And the rest of the teams are good and they're going to, the big 12 is like more of like a numbers game where it's like, we're not going to win the national championship, but we are going to have five teams in the lead eight. Yeah. You're going to have to respect us because we just like overwhelm you with how many good teams we have. But then when you look up, like none of those teams are actually winning the national championship.
Starting point is 01:26:07 Houston could though. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I, yeah, the big 12 is, and they are the best teams. TCU, TCU is another team I like, but like, I don't think they're... TCU, I...
Starting point is 01:26:18 Dixon really screwed us because we went and did a TCU college football show and we had him on and he was like, we're gonna run like the showtime Lakers. And I was like, oh fuck, I'm gonna bet the over in every single one of their games. And they do run, but they don't make shots like the showtime Lakers. So I've lost a lot of money.
Starting point is 01:26:37 There's a guy, Jordan Sperber who does awesome breakdowns. If you're like a basketball geek and wanna see like X's and O stuff, he's like a film nut. But he- Ah, that only got 54,000 views. Yeah, right. J.J. Reddick, Zion Williams. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:52 What a great humble ride by J.J. Reddick. Yeah. In like this boring thing, it only got 45,000 views. I feel his pain because like I'm like the smartest fucking guy in the world and like I kind of do, I prove it on my show over and over and over again. And I think the reason my show isn't the number one sports podcast is because I'm probably too smart.
Starting point is 01:27:13 You get too smart. I'm too smart for the average person. Fans don't want it. Yeah. I got to dump down. Let's make it do X's and O's, but or you can get Kat Williams come on a show and call everyone in Hollywood. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:21 And then you get 60 million views. Yeah. Wait, so are you saying it's not. Wait, so what were you saying about that? Oh, so Sperber always puts together, he takes the, the intro press conferences when coaches get hired in the off season. Literally every single coach says, we're going to push pace. Yeah. We're going to, we're going to run and gun. We're going to, yeah. And then, and then he oftentimes will do like an update and be like, here's their pace actually. Here's like what they're actually, their offense is actually doing.
Starting point is 01:27:41 But every single intro press conference coach is like one of the tenets of our program We're gonna push it. We're gonna we're gonna get good shots. We're gonna we're gonna put points on the board And then reality hits. Yeah, that's the fact. All right, so let's talk about the big East real quick cuz Max over there Villanova. Oh, they they are we're running this tomorrow It you can't have a worse setup than Villanova Being like starting to play some good basketball max had talked himself into the Yukon game now It's game day is in stores They're coming off with 20 point loss where Danny Hurley was like I coach bad the players played bad and now Villanova has to
Starting point is 01:28:22 Go play there and Danny Hurley is releasing Game of Thrones gifts, yeah videos. This feels like an ass kick. It's gonna be a fucking biblical ass kicking for Max and Villanova. Are you in on our Nova Max? I can't. Oh yeah I'm I go with whatever way the last game goes. That's a true fan. I'm all in or all out after every single game. And the last three games, double digit wins. Or three wins by double digit points. Yeah, and now you gotta go play Yukon. So is there a team in the Big East besides Yukon and we'll say Creighton as well.
Starting point is 01:28:57 Yeah. We have Greg Miterman on this show who can make a deep run. Marquette, obviously. Yeah, I still don't believe them. I think Marquette's, yeah. I don't know. Maybe that's just because of the Badgers.
Starting point is 01:29:07 Because of the Badgers, yeah. And I don't think the Badgers are that good. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. Seton Hall's been great. It won't happen though, because they're Frank. Yeah. And Frank's not allowed to have happiness.
Starting point is 01:29:21 Seton Hall's like an auto bed at home type of team. Yeah. I'm drinking the Butler Kool-Aid. They're're on the bubble. Oh why? Who's their coach? Who is their coach? Yeah, look it up. Oh, who is their coach? Do you know their coach? You don't know. Do you know their coach? No, it was the fourth best. Oh, it's that modded. Oh, where'd he coach? Oh,, well good for him. I didn't realize I was drinking the brother Kool-Aid, but now I'm really drinking They're so fun to watch they they won at Crayton and at Marquette Yeah, we're talking about like you want to see teams like a win on the road
Starting point is 01:29:57 They won they have two impressive road wins Villanova could could Do something there's a fourth best team in the biggest Yeah, you're probably right. Yeah when they. They're the fourth best team in the Big East. Yeah, you're probably right. When they're at their best. Yeah, there's a follow-up. I mean, they've looked like the third worst team in the Big East for a lot of the year, but talent-wise, they're at least the fourth best team
Starting point is 01:30:22 in the Big East. Talent-wise. Yeah, the big East. Talent wise, talent wise. Yeah, the big East is the most fun league to me, I think. Well, it's all basketball. It's just pure basketball. The fans are obsessed. It's all they care about. The coaches are incredible characters through and through.
Starting point is 01:30:43 Yeah, and I do think a lot of these teams can go, I do like bias aside, I do think Butler, I do think that they, they're not gonna go to Final Four, but. That was bias included. Well, I don't know what you mean by a deep run, but yeah, like Butler could make the sweet 16. Butler bias aside may not make the tournament
Starting point is 01:31:05 No, I know that but that would be the bias side There's a team they're going to make the tournament. Are they yeah, they'll make the tournament But I see my here that plays in the play in that that that makes some makes a little run. Yeah, no, you're right Here there's a team that's on the bubble that makes a run I'm so there could be that team their last four in right now according to the linearty. They'll make it in Okay, can't say something about the play-ity. They'll make it in. Okay. Can I say something about the play-in? I just, I've decided I hate the play-in.
Starting point is 01:31:29 I don't like it because it's an afterthought even though it comes before. I don't like the play-in at all. I think I want my tournament to start on Thursday. I like it being clean Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. The ones, the teams don't get the shine if they play in the play-in. Nobody remembers if you play in the play and lose.
Starting point is 01:31:46 Yeah. I understand why they want more teams in there. They wanna be able to throw like some 16 seeds in and get them out of the way. And it just, it's, or some, some higher, some teams that won their conference tournament. How would you feel if- They don't want to give shine to on a Thursday.
Starting point is 01:32:04 If they called it the play in and they, and you didn't actually get an NCAA tournament, you didn't get to put on a banner in your arena that like NCAA tournament appearances, you didn't get to put that on there unless you won the play in. I'm fine with that. If it was truly like this is not the NCAA tournament, this is purely a play in, the tournament starts on Thursday, but we're still going to keep the exact same format. We're just going to rebrand it. Yeah, the games can stay. Like I'm not in favor of, I like more sports on TV.
Starting point is 01:32:30 Yeah. But if you just do, if you have like four at large teams that play on that Wednesday, you don't call it the tournament. But if you win, you get in the tournament, I'm fine with that. 68 isn't as cool. 64 is a way better number when it comes to a bracket. I like to play in because it's an appetizer right gets you warmed up And I also think that UCLA
Starting point is 01:32:50 Kind of like legitimize the play-in when they went to the final four from the play-in. Yeah, like that that was it like this Right, I'm happy they got in you know like we need the play-in. So I just I like the appetizer gets me warmed up I do think that this idea that we're gonna have like, whatever the number is, 132. I hate that. That sucks. 64 is the perfect number. And I agree like with UCLA, they could have played in that as an at large.
Starting point is 01:33:14 And yeah, you get into the tournament that way and we had fun. I just, I don't like the number 68. I feel like 64 is way better. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. I guess you could just like not watch until Thursday morning. Not an option. Yeah, that's true too. That's why I like you could just like not watch until Thursday morning. Not an option. Yeah, that's true. That's why I like it because I'll always watch it.
Starting point is 01:33:29 You put it on TV, I'm gonna watch it. And it also feels like, ooh, nice. This team could get, who else did it? I don't know why I said that because it isn't an option. Yeah. I say the same shit sometimes. Like people will say the same shit to me about, like I'm like, I hate watching, like I don't feel this way about Houston, but if you find Houston basketball disgusting and you're just like, I fucking, I can't watch this kind of basketball, people will say, well, just don't watch. And it's like, I mean, I have to watch. Yeah. You also have to realize that I can watch one of the best teams in the country. Yeah. The plan is objectively hilarious too for the teams that do lose like Brandon Walker's
Starting point is 01:33:57 Mississippi State last year. He didn't make the tournament. Yes. TJ, the Rutgers lost a few years. Right. They didn't make the tournament. You have to do that with your friends. Right. We're like, you weren't really in the tournament. Right. Right. So't make the tournament. You have to do that with your friends. Right. They're like, you weren't really in the tournament. Right. Right. So I love the play-in.
Starting point is 01:34:08 Right. I do like the play-in. I do think that it should be official, though. I do think that Mississippi State last year should have officially not made this tournament. Yes. Right. I'm fine with that, but I just like the idea that.
Starting point is 01:34:16 They should keep it. You can basically play like, the play-in is basically to choose your own adventure, where it's like the losing teams. You can be like, yeah, they didn't make it. There's always somebody that argues that we should not make the 16s play, but I think the 16s wanna play. Yeah, they get a chance to win a tournament game.
Starting point is 01:34:33 That's cool. Like they don't, otherwise, and I get it, they wanna play against a one seed, that's cool, but like, I don't know, it's, I like the plan. I'm a big fan of the plan. All right, pack 12 real quick. Arizona swan song. Arizona's for real.
Starting point is 01:34:48 Arizona is for real. They play Washington state tonight. Yeah, it should be a great game. Washington State's second best team in the pack 12. Is there a chance though, that Tommy Lloyd spent a little too much time with Mark Few and he's always gonna be just close enough? I know.
Starting point is 01:35:04 He's got a little too much Mark Few and he's always going to be just close enough. I know he's got a little too much Mark Few. Well Arizona, Purdue losing last year is the greatest thing that happened to Tommy Lloyd. Yeah. Nobody remembers that Arizona lost to Prince 15T. Yeah. Yeah, no you're right. They were the two seed. Right. Yeah, he's been, he's also, he is starting to get into that range of like, I think that's why he lost some of these games this year because Arizona is, they are very good and their national title good and the Final Four is in Phoenix, which is an interesting wrinkle. And the Pac-12 having its last year, like there's a lot of stars aligning for the Arizona redemption. But I think they're not having quite as good of a
Starting point is 01:35:38 year as they probably should be. And I think that might be on purpose because Tommy Lloyd was getting way too many of those graphics that are like This is the hottest start anybody's ever had yeah college basketball coaching career And you don't want that when when you've had the last two tournament exits They've had like Houston was way better than them the year that they lost. That was a sweet 16 at least But Houston just like manhandled them when Arizona is probably the best team in the country a couple years ago And then you lose to a 15 seed last year Yeah, it's it's a I don't say Tommy Lloyd like you just signed an extension And I think like most people realize he is an incredible. He's still like two or three years away from
Starting point is 01:36:17 Getting the narrative mark. Yeah, but there's been a couple But they lost at Oregon State I want to say and then that game at home where they struggled with UCLA for the entire game. Right. They let Stanford score 100 on him. But I think that's smart. I think he's got to show more cracks in the regular season.
Starting point is 01:36:32 If you're dominant through the regular season and then you fuck it up in March. That's true. That's what Gonzaga used to do. That's what looks embarrassing. But if you have seven or eight losses entering the tournament and you lose in the sweet 16, it's not a bad year. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:44 It's not a bad year. It's like Izzo, right? Yeah. He limps in the tournament sometimes. You don't expect it. You're like, what a great coach. Yeah, like if Michigan State makes the sweet 16 this year, that's gonna feel like a great accomplishment. Yeah, they were, you picked him. Well, they're a great team. Fantastic team. Very hard to be at home, especially early on in the season. You're a national title contender. If you go in and you defeat Michigan State when they're what ranked early on in the season, you're a national title contender if you go in and you defeat Michigan State when they're ranked number four at the time.
Starting point is 01:37:08 You'd have to be a great team to do that. You should get an auto-bed to the in-state tournament. Yeah, great. Let's talk Sunbelt, Mark. No, we won't talk Sunbelt. ACC. So I miss, I'm gonna say it, I miss Coach K. Big time. I miss having him around.
Starting point is 01:37:20 I miss the rivalries. I miss him lecturing people. I miss getting to talk about Coach K. And it feels like, it's not just Duke, but like a little bit of the shine is off the ACC now without Coach K. It is. Duke is sneaky putting it together a little bit right now,
Starting point is 01:37:39 but yeah, it's not the same. Carolinas, I think it's beyond Coach K, like the ACC lost a lot of characters. They lost Roy, they lost Bayhime. They lost Mike Bray who nobody talks about. Dude, how about Bayhime calling games? Yeah. And it's part, like I turned on a random ACC game
Starting point is 01:37:55 the other day and he, I was like, is this Bayhime? And he was just so crudgy. It is Bayhime. I don't like him calling game. He should be the, the halftime and the, the, the, Yeah. It was so weird. He should be in the studio. He was just kind of in his whiny voice.
Starting point is 01:38:08 Yeah. I was just like, what's going on right now? Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, we lost a lot of ACC guys. Yeah. Um, and, and Virginia is still like technically one of the better teams in the conference. And now Virginia is, is as bad as like when Virginia had those good teams and everyone was like, this team cannot score the basketball. they were wrong. They actually could. They just like played slow, but they were like, their offense was incredible. They had NBA players and they got
Starting point is 01:38:33 good shots and they made them. This is actually what Virginia basketball was to all the people back in the day. This specific Virginia team is disgusting, just disgusting basketball. They play great defense, they cannot score to save their lives. And the problem the ACC has is that they are still one of the better teams in the ACC. And they are just like, they are very, very offensive. Yeah, when they're good, when they win games,
Starting point is 01:38:58 you can be like, this is, if you're a real basketball head, you love Virginia basketball because they suffocate you, they smother you, they're careful, they're deliberate. But but then when they can't score it's just like this is bad basketball it's bad basketball yeah what is what is tony benet's philosophy on uh just like how he plays like what what is the driving force but behind why he chooses to play such a weird brand of basketball uh his dad i think yeah he goes just like his dad yeah his dad didn't he did it that way um it's just it literally is just just like, if you're from Wisconsin, you got to play boring basketball.
Starting point is 01:39:29 Yeah. I don't know. It makes sense in an antiquated way where it was like, we want to work for a good shot, work the ball, wait till you get out. Don't shoot bad shots. That checks out. Like the value of each possession?
Starting point is 01:39:42 Yeah. I think there was a lot of, the Pac-Line defense is like make them shoot further from the basket, which like was smart strategy in the 80s. Yeah. And that's like that's where everybody wants to shoot. Yeah. I also think it's like a lot of these teams at Virginia, obviously you said when they won the national title, they had NBA dudes, but it's smart when you have a team that maybe doesn't have like that one or two guys that can can beat everyone off the dribble. It's like, all right, we're going to work as a team to get
Starting point is 01:40:06 these good shots. Right. Right. Yeah. Now, yeah, the introduction of the ball screen has just completely changed somewhere along the end. Steph Curry, it was the ball screen plus Steph Curry that have just revolutionized this game. If only Steph Curry would have been recruited by any team that was around him when he was growing up. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Damn. Yeah. You know what? In all the in all the Steph Curry Virginia tech angles I thought of and never did cross my mind that like Virginia plays the pack line. Yeah. They give up threes and they're fine giving up threes and Steph Curry could have gotten Virginia Tech. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:40 Just fucking brain threes on Virginia. Really on Virginia really Virginia should have recruited stuff curry Because if everyone's if they knew yeah true But especially Virginia because if they knew that tech wasn't recruiting them at least you get the opportunity to be like We got this guy and it's a big fuck you to Virginia. Yeah, right? Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, it's a big miss That's I wonder if that that should be recruiting strategies like recruit the guys recruit the sons that the The dad's alma mater doesn't want yeah, and then you can be like the whole time like they didn't want you Yeah, and fire you up that way. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. We got to mention the Mountain West
Starting point is 01:41:15 So Mount West fans don't get mad. Yeah, they're starting to piss me off Mount West fans. I don't know why I think because there was the Narrative that they couldn't do it in the tournament then San Diego State. Maybe it's just one guy. Last night I was watching that that awesome awesome New Mexico Colorado State game and someone's like oh just finding out about the Mount West like fuck you dude. Yeah I fucking watched Mount West. Yeah. I fucking lost. I'm pretty sure that UNOV threw a game against Air Force like a month ago that I bet on and I watched every possession. I'm they lost by like 30.
Starting point is 01:41:46 I watched about West. So they got like hockey fan in there. Yeah, they're a little bit like, oh, now you're taking pension to the mountain West. Be clear. This is one fan. No, but no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no watch and they get to The tournament they'd be out and like remember the year they were out in 10 hours, right? Yeah Yeah, I do remember that, but I like about less. It's fun fun basketball. It's been great this year. It's it's it's so fun
Starting point is 01:42:14 They might get six bids. Yeah. Yeah, um, the UNLV should not make it for that one game. I'm talking about but they uh They have a same problem PFT said it's like whoever's at home. Yeah Well, no, they lost at home by by 30 the Air Force. I'm pretty sure they oh you and LV Did you talk about you know that was a point shaving game? Um, yeah, I can't make sense of who the best even the Mountain West is I've no it depends on basically what I just saw. I think New Mexico probably has the highest ceiling Yeah, they feel like the team that, they make the most sense to me. I like their guards and,
Starting point is 01:42:52 but yeah, Utah State is probably the answer. They're probably gonna win the league, right? The one thing that worries me about Utah State, they haven't played a single power conference team all year. I, when I realized that, that like, that definitely worried me. San Diego State is, when the bracket comes out, I'm going to make San Diego State go the furthest
Starting point is 01:43:10 of any Mountain West team though. Because it's last year biased, but it's also, they do have the pedigree. And they were the one team that they've never had, obviously, a final four run. But they were the one team that would have some semblance of success out of the the mountain west right like they at least like Would go to sweet 16 every so often. Yeah
Starting point is 01:43:29 So I think San Diego State will probably end up still being the team, but yeah fun league It is only it is it has become the league That's like if you don't know what game to watch just throwing a random-ass Mountain West game. It might be the hipsters basketball Yeah, that's what it is. Yeah, it definitely is. It does have that energy because it is like every night you can watch a great Mountain West game. The A-10 used to be that way. Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 01:43:51 And the Mountain West has kind of become that. Yeah, you're right. Where it used to be like, oh yeah, no one's talking about VCU. Dayton, all this. You're absolutely right. The Mountain West is the new A-10. This Richmond, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:02 Watch out for Bonnies. St. Bonaventure game. Yeah. Hopping Richmond. Yeah. Yeah. Watch out for Bonnie's. St. Bonaventure game. Yeah. Hopping off. The Mr. Beer guy, he actually, I think his name was Dom. Awesome, dude. Remember the St. Bonnie's fan who used to wear the beer hat and they'd show him at every game?
Starting point is 01:44:17 Captain beer. Captain beer. He did an awesome move. He passed down the hat. That's good. That's good. So there's a new Captain Beer. That's a fucking great move That's a great move college basketball like if you're a fan and you're in the student section
Starting point is 01:44:30 Can you imagine continuing to go back to that fan section? Maybe wearing the same day a couple years same same sunglasses that you've worn every single year be weird He came to the office and he brought us some merch some captain beer merch Guy rocks Speaking of TJ, how awesome is it getting to host a daily show, which I love by the way, mostly sports. You have a cast of characters. Yeah, both of them. I mean, I love TJ, I love Ebo, love Connor.
Starting point is 01:44:56 You got everybody, so. Cody. Cody, it's gotta be a great time hosting that show. Fun, yeah, it's fun hosting, especially when you guys are hosting it with me. Yeah. That's when I enjoy it the most is when I look across the desk and I see a face I respect, like one of you two.
Starting point is 01:45:12 Like one of us, yeah. I should thank you though, because you doing mostly sports with, what's his name, Brendan Walker? Brendan. Brendan Walker. There's no D. You doing mostly sports with Brendan Walker has definitely cleared my schedule a little bit
Starting point is 01:45:26 with his anxiety phone calls. I'm assuming they're going to you because I know they're not fixed. I assume they're just going to you. He does, he helps my anxiety because I have a ton of anxiety as well, but then I see Brandon and I'm like, do I look like that?
Starting point is 01:45:41 Yeah, yeah. It like forces you into a leadership role with him. Yeah, exactly. Like you have to calm him down. Somebody has to it like forces you into a like a leadership role. Yeah, exactly. You have to calm him down. Somebody has to. It forces you into perspective about yourself. Yeah. Yeah, it really does.
Starting point is 01:45:52 But no, we love the show. It's been great. We love that, yeah, you guys help out with the show when asked. Called upon. Yeah, when called upon. It's been a fun show. Now, is it gonna be a disappointment for you
Starting point is 01:46:04 if you don't get ranked as the number one college basketball personality? No, cause I, I don't know. I don't know what's funnier. Is it if I do or if... The funniest outcome would be if you were ranked number like two or three and then Brennan Walker got you a giant banner to hang up that said
Starting point is 01:46:23 like number three. And then he says number two. Yeah, yeah, number two. College basketball personality, yeah. That's probably true. Are you guys still in the honeymoon? Where like have you had the time, because this happens to every show that's ever been created on the internet,
Starting point is 01:46:36 where like, I don't know, a year in, everyone's like, this show sucks now. We're not there yet, but I feel it. Brandon pointed out that we have like a Reddit now. Oh, that's the first line. Then it's over. Yeah, no. Brandon made the mistake where he's like,
Starting point is 01:46:49 we apparently have a Reddit and everybody's super nice. And I was like, oh, for now, that's the problem. That's the problem. Some light advice, take it or leave it. Just don't read the Reddit. Never go on it. And then you don't have to worry about it. We do have this problem.
Starting point is 01:47:03 And I don't know if you guys can relate. Connor, who's kind of a side character, but we let him talk every so often, he's a big Philly guy. And his opinions about Philly sports just fucking stink. And so we get a lot of shit where it's like, shut this Philly asshole up, please. I don't want to hear from this Philly piece of shit. And I don't know why I'm asking.
Starting point is 01:47:24 It's just something that we're trying to deal with. I don't know if I'm asking. It's just something that we're trying to deal with. I don't know if I can help you out with that one. We're trying to deal with that. We enjoy it, but also the fans just hate his fucking guts. Yeah. And that's a little weird. Well, he's not Italian though. So you're good.
Starting point is 01:47:40 I think Max's personality is more Italian than Philly sometimes. It's a lethal combination. Where he'll start a sentence and finish it with his hand. We weren't talking. We were like, dude, I don't know sign language. We weren't talking about me. You know, we're talking about Connor.
Starting point is 01:47:52 Yeah, we're talking about Connor. Well, you just said my name. Well, no, because I was saying, as long as Connor's not Italian or becomes Italian, you should be OK. What is he? Irish? German Irish? He looks German.
Starting point is 01:48:03 He's Irish, right? Yeah. Connor's an Irish name. Connor Griffin? Yeah, he's great. Super Irish. He looks German. You're fine. You're fine. He's Irish, right? Yeah. Conner's an Irish name. Conner Griffin. He has great techniques. Super Irish. Super Irish. Probably. I have red head. Yeah. People get pissed off when you have that one guy that his name starts with E and he always talks about JMU.
Starting point is 01:48:14 Yeah. That's a bad person to have on a podcast. Yes. All right. National title. And we're going to have you back on obviously for the brackets when they are announced. But give it to us. Give me, give us a Final four. Okay, final four. It's impossible to do without a bracket. Yeah, it's also impossible because I did have
Starting point is 01:48:29 this realization the other day that I don't think I can think of four teams that I trust to win four NCAA tournament games in a row right now, which is a problem because four teams will by definition four teams. I trust Yukon? Yukon and Purdue feel obvious. I mean, that's why I'm gonna just, okay, all right, I have to think this through. Cause everybody wants you to pick like a wild card, but the reason they are a wild card is cause they've kind of sucked this year.
Starting point is 01:49:01 Right. So like, why would I pick them? I think Purdue is going to make the final four. I said that at the start of the year, I think Purdue is gonna get their redemption in the sense that they're going to make the final four and not win a national championship. I do feel like Houston's defense is,
Starting point is 01:49:19 Houston is, the jump up to the big 12 is going to help them immensely. And I have to trust Houston. I don't think UConn's gonna do it. Oh. I think UConn is good. I think UConn is very, very good. I just think like back to back championships is hard.
Starting point is 01:49:36 Back to back Final Four was very hard. And yeah, like UConn, like even Villanova did, like Villanova was the year in between the national title Like they Villanova had an awesome team and they got tripped up. It's like you get who did I can't remember Who cares I can't remember around. Oh, you need to get out of the second round. You're the one seed I'll take a second round exit sandwich, but who did beat him who did beat him? Who cares I'm just asking. I'm like we're like you know the answer. No, I don't. You know the answer. You know the answer.
Starting point is 01:50:09 Yeah. It was the Wisconsin bad. Oh, it was Wisconsin. That's like that. Mad. It's crazy. But yeah, I think you cons in a position right now where the foreseeable future they will be national title contenders, but I'm going to pick them to have to get tripped up like in the sweet 16 this year. So I got Purdue, I'll take Houston, give me Arizona because I like that. That's a sexy, that's a sexy idea of like Arizona being in Phoenix in the final four last year of the pack 12. And then I got a ride with Tennessee who I said, big cat, when you, when you came on my show, they were one of my picks. And we, we talked about national title
Starting point is 01:50:46 picks. Yeah, we threw out Michigan State and Tennessee. Yeah. So you picked three number ones and a number two. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Who do you, what's the, let me pull up bracket matrix. What do you want me to pick? What's, what's low enough? Well, I can't quit. I was going to pick Indiana State, but right now in Lunar D's bracket. I can't quit Kentucky. Yeah. Kentucky's probably gonna be like a 60. They're they're five seed. Maybe I'll go with I'm gonna go with I did pick Nebraska
Starting point is 01:51:14 I'll pick I'll pick Ole Miss. Okay. Nice Vermont. Yep. Give me Nevada. Yep and I'm going to get my take out. I can't wait to but take out Houston and put in butler. Give me your in it final for. Buckeyes. Buckeyes are back. Okay. So we're back in the nit picture. Buckeyes JMU. There we go. I would love that. Beautiful. That was a that was a go. Yeah we should. That was a women's. Was that a women's like round of 16 game last year? Cause I think me and you bet on that, right? You know what? Now that I think about it, that was my, uh, yeah, we did. And I think I owe you something. It was a mustache bet.
Starting point is 01:52:12 Yeah. I had to show. There were so many bets going on. Yeah. The, I, it was such a whirlwind cause I, I, that was my welcome to bar still moment in terms of the gambling was, uh, we bet on the Ohio state, JMU women, Ohio state won by like 23 or something. And PFT was cackling on my face like, haha, you lose. Gotcha. And I was like, what is going on?
Starting point is 01:52:34 Gotcha. Got your ass. Loser. Yeah, I don't like looking at Bracketology right now because I just pulled it up in Wisconsin playing Indiana State in the first round and that's a loss. Jake, I have a question for you with Bracketology. How do you feel about Joe Lennarty becoming the lightning rod for like any time a coach has a problem with how his, where he's at in the bracketing, they just, they go after
Starting point is 01:52:57 Lennarty. He gets so much shit and I don't necessarily think Lennarty's the best Bracketologist, but I just find it fascinating that Joe Lennarty has created this industry where he's just like, here's what I think the selection committee is going to do and then every time around this year, like a team that's on the bubble, their coach will do a press conference where we're like, oh, one more thing before I go, fuck you Joe Lennarty. Joe Lennarty is like, what did I do? Well, Mark, as someone who tried going down the path of being a bracketologist for one season I can tell you that role is absolute hell. Yeah, there is no way to make anyone happy
Starting point is 01:53:30 I left Wisconsin out of my preseason bracket two years ago I'm not shut up about well you shouldn't have done that Because you just copied whatever they said I wanted a true real bracket all they were projected not to do well that you of true real bracket. They were projected not to do well that you know. Rejected who projects. It's it's an impossible job. Yeah. It is impossible. There is no way to make anybody happy. It's impossible. It is impossible. I agree with that but then the funny part about it is it's actually like super easy because when you're when you're forecasting the field in this day tournament you're basically you're looking at like a pool of like eight teams yeah and you're picking five of those eight to make the
Starting point is 01:54:06 tournament correct that's really all it comes down right um and somehow I don't know how but just like the idea that linarity is the only one that like would you take that as a point of pride though Jake they'd like you're the guy that everybody wants to tackle you like this is fucking insane why is everybody I think the fact that yes pn has the rights to like 85 percent of college basketball games yeah target, he was the first It is first a field of study The fact that he put ology at the end of it makes it seem like
Starting point is 01:54:32 There's a lot more of a science part-time class you could take with him. Yeah, I don't know if it still exists It's it's not really his opinions though. That's what I find hilarious about it is like Joe. Joe Lennardy in his mind He's like this is science dude. Like I'm not yeah yeah. He's just doing what they think well they will do. Yeah. Right. You don't see people coming for Jerry Palm. Right. Right. It's all Lennarty. It's always Lennarty.
Starting point is 01:54:52 And he's just like, every time he's on TV, he's just like the biggest teddy bear looking dude. And the idea that like these coaches are behind closed doors and like, fuck, we got to fucking kill this guy. It's just one guy that's like locked in his basement. The bunker. Also Jerry Palm, you can't go at him because his hair hair like what are you gonna say? Like just look at him and you're like your hair dude. Like he kind of he kind of just put a speed bump in front of all
Starting point is 01:55:13 haters. Like we're gonna make fun of that. Look at his hair. That's it. You're out of the Brack etology game forever. I did it for one season and it was a huge mistake. Yeah I've been trying to find like a field for Blake to get into because Leroy's thing was breaking news and it was a huge mistake. Yeah. I've been trying to find like a field for Blake to get into because Leroy's thing was breaking news and he was really good at it. Blake might become a bracketologist. Should we have him do a whole bracket? You should become a CBI bracketologist. He could be a bracketologist. Maybe he could also be like an NFL news aggregator like a Dove Kleinman. Yeah, no football. Yeah, but yeah, maybe maybe bracketology Blake etology. Yeah, that works Yeah, you gotta do you can't be the NCAA or the NIT it should be the CBI or whatever
Starting point is 01:55:51 Yeah, I see it. I don't know if that exists anymore That would rock it was a CBI or or it would be even better if he was like bracketologist for like the Maui tournament. Yeah We already know who's going to play next year. Just make the bracket. Yeah. Or just do a champ week where it's predetermined. Oh yeah dude. Yeah there you go. Conference championship week bracketology. Yeah. I like that a lot. You talk about Tennessee I want to circle back to them real quick because there are two teams I bet on preseason. One is Houston the other is Tennessee and I feel like I'm getting big tee poisoning in my ears all the time but I still they're a very fun team to watch.
Starting point is 01:56:28 I actually think it would have been good last year if Ziegler didn't tear it away towards ACL. Yeah. Yeah. And he didn't play in the thermo. Yeah. Last year felt like I don't know if I just like the guy because like five eight but he's fun to watch. Don't connect might be the most electric score in college. Yeah. So basketball. He's so fun. He's just like, he is, the problem with guys like him is when he's not on and it's not all there, he'll drive you insane.
Starting point is 01:56:56 Cause he is, he does get a little, he like spaces out when he's playing. Like he doesn't play defense and he doesn't really, like sometimes offensively he's like, kind of doesn't understand what the rest of the team is doing. But like when he's playing like he doesn't play defense and he doesn't really like sometimes offensively he's like kind of doesn't understand what the rest of the team is doing but like when he's rolling he's he's he's the most electric score in college basketball absolutely which is the reason I've talked myself into Tennessee all season even as they lose I trust that like like because the Rick Barnes and March thing is very real but it's also he's he made
Starting point is 01:57:22 the sweet 16 last year and like it is, it is like a, and he's made a final four before in his life. So I don't, I don't fully understand what, I, like Dan, you'll say you'll be like Rick Barnes and March. And I'm like, yes, exactly. What, what does that mean again? Like what does it mean? You just visualize it.
Starting point is 01:57:39 He's not going to win a national championship. Yeah. No, they're just, you just, you just close your eyes and you're like, oh yeah, there he goes. Right. Down the tunnel, 16 loss. I can't visualize him like for a week leading up to the final four, like doing all the press conferences,
Starting point is 01:57:54 talking about getting his team ready for a final four. I just don't see Rick Barnes in that role. But he's done it. But he's done it. He's very good. He's done it, he's made a final four. Yeah, but he's very good. But he just, it's Rick Barnes in March. Yeah. But I think this team is different than
Starting point is 01:58:07 the Tennessee teams of the past because of Dalton Connect and Zaki Ziegler is a great, great offensive player too. And he's, he's gotten a lot better throughout his career. So yeah, they have a good, they have a good offense. They do have, they have offensive weapons in a way they haven't since basically Grant Williams and Admiral Schofield, which is a team that, you know, ha ha Rick Barnes and March. But like that, if you remember that tournament 2019, that was like Tony Bennett, Virginia fucked that all up for Purdue and Tennessee because like all three of those teams in that bracket were good enough to make a final four. All of those games were closed. Like Purdue, Purdue, Tennessee game was awesome. One team had to win. Whoever was going to lose that game was going to get point and laugh that and be like, you always fuck this up in March.
Starting point is 01:58:52 And then the next round, the exact same thing happened with Purdue and Virginia where Purdue had Virginia beat Virginia wins on a, or sends the, they won. They won on the last second shot. And that's how Purdue loses. And now all of a sudden it's like Purdue can't get it done in March. I don't know. It, it, this shit drives me crazy. Cause it makes no fucking sense, but then it kind of does make sense. Yeah. Mark Gonzaga is never going to make a point. But what I was saying, the point was this team offensively, I trust more than any team since the 2019 Tennessee team. And yes, that
Starting point is 01:59:24 team lost in the three 16, but if team. And yes, that team lost in the three 16, but if you go back and see how they lost in the three 16, Rick Barnes, see how you did that. Looked at his calendar. Oh shit. Oh shit. Well, I'm ready to that. All right. We'll tie this Rick Barnes, Rick Barnes, Rick Barnes, Rick Barnes, Rick Barnes, March. Who's who? Who, who do we trust that's going to win a national championship this year? Dan's early because I saw it last year do we trust that's going to win a national championship this year? Dan's early because I saw it last year. Yeah, that's it. That's it. That's what
Starting point is 01:59:49 it is. It's like these other guys have proven they can win. It's like bill self. Are we going to trust Houston? Like Houston's made one Kelvin says me one final four is a Mickey mouse run to the final. No, it's bill self Tommy Lloyd jokes and March. Yeah. Matt painter jokes. It's bill self and Danny. Orange jokes. That's it. That's it. And if J. Wright wants to come back, I'll trust him too. That's it. J. Wright's another perfect example. Like he out. Villanova was the that's right. Oh, J. Wright. Like they can't they can't win the big one. It's like, all right, then he just rouse off some
Starting point is 02:00:18 national titles. All right, Titus. Thank you so much. Everyone can tune in to Mostly Sports Every Day and the Mark Titus show where he talks in depth college basketball We'll have you back on for the brackets This is the best time of year. I'm excited guys. Thanks for having me look forward to get the bracket my hand Yeah, tell Brendan we said hi. All right Mark Titus is brought to you by our great friends over at Morgan and Morgan. Today's Firefest segment is sponsored by Morgan and Morgan.
Starting point is 02:00:49 We had dinner with Dan Morgan the other night. Great dude, talked to him for a long time, explained to us some of the inner workings behind Morgan and Morgan. He gaslit BFT and thinking he could pass the bar. Oh yeah, yeah, he did. So we were talking about Hank being able to dunk and And he said that I could pass the bar way easier than Hank could be able to dunk a basket. Bax. So I'm gonna sue you, Hank, for defamation,
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Starting point is 02:02:17 I may have- Oh no, you're, it's been two days. It's been two days. All right, I lost my- No, no, go ahead, say the first one. It's not a Firefest, because it's been two days. It's been two days. All right, I lost my- No, no, go ahead, say the first one. It's not a firefest, because it's been two days. You can't have to be a firefest two days. You have nine months.
Starting point is 02:02:32 Is it nine months? You have 10 months. Oh, not basically nine. No, I mean, I've got a lot of people reaching out. I've actually got a lot of positive reinforcements, which I appreciate. I didn't say anything. A lot of good advice.
Starting point is 02:02:43 What, have a different mom and dad? No, gotta I gotta that's the thing. I'm athletic. I just haven't been athletic My baseline is so low. I've chosen not to do athletic things for the last couple of years give or take 10 But it's it exists inside me I like the belief in yourself, but also you don't have that belief in yourself because you're thinking about not doing it. He's already practicing his three point shot. No, I'm not. I'm going hard to dunk.
Starting point is 02:03:11 When are you going to transition to threes? Summer. It is. It's going to interfere with the golfing, which is a real problem. I don't think so, because I think it's like good. I need to. I what I've learned, which was surprising, was that obviously you have to train legs, obviously.
Starting point is 02:03:28 You also have to train your hips and your shoulders, which I'm always on the search for boulders for shoulders. You've got to train your shoulders heavy so that you have good, like that's a big part of dunking. I've learned a lot about dunking in the past couple of days. What would you say the percentage of positive feedback to negative feedback has been? That I've read?
Starting point is 02:03:46 I've read 100% negative. Well, I only read the one, like I just kind of block out the negative ones. So you're in the, that I've noticed, overwhelming. You're in the information gathering portion of this journey. Knees over legs. Knees over shins.
Starting point is 02:04:02 Knees over feet, there's an Instagram account. Oh yeah. I was following him and I downloaded a program. There's an Instagram account on him. Oh yeah. And I downloaded a program. There's a lot, obviously a lot of, this is probably a- These are all things that you've done on your phone. Is the information gathered? Oh, I downloaded, I got a laptop.
Starting point is 02:04:14 I have a whole workout program. Oh, you found it. Found it. Yeah, I found my laptop. I'm excited, I'm excited for the challenge. I think it's gonna help everything. I'm gonna be athletic, I'm gonna be a better golfer, healthier, healthier. What points do I think it's gonna help everything. I'm gonna be athletic, I'm gonna be better golfer, healthier, healthier.
Starting point is 02:04:25 What points do you think you're gonna get injured? We'll see about that. Okay, because it wouldn't be the worst if you had like a Tom's Super. Once I get injured, it's all. Break your legs, ACL, arm. I also was thinking I should get something if I do both. What? Like what if I don't? Now you think you can do both. What? Like what if I don't-
Starting point is 02:04:45 Now you think you can do both. And hit 23s. Well then you gotta put something else up. I already- You told us this. I'm already over leveraged. Do you want to double down? No.
Starting point is 02:04:56 $20,000? No, because I can't- the bet is if I couldn't do either, so obviously- Alright, if you can do- if you do both do either so obviously. Alright if you can do both then... Careful. Ugh. I was gonna say if you do both we'll both get cats and if you can't you have to get a cat. No.
Starting point is 02:05:15 How about if you do both you get to go on a month long golf vacation. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Wait but if you can't do it, then you have to pay us 10% of your salary for the next five years, every paycheck. You know what? I'll double the price.
Starting point is 02:05:33 So I'll give you 20 grand if you can't do both and you have to get the SoulPatch. It doesn't matter. SoulPatch, it's not gonna happen. It's not gonna happen. SoulPatch. Thank you, have an extra day to prepare. SoulPatch. February 29th. Good point, Jake. It's been done happen. It's not going to happen. Soapash. Hank, you have an extra day to prepare.
Starting point is 02:05:45 Soapash. February 29th. Good point, Jake. It's been done. Soapash. All right, we're good. Oh! That's weird.
Starting point is 02:05:53 By the way, tune in on Monday. We have Derek White and Peyton Prichard here, and Hank makes a crazy Soapash. Absolutely not. Sound like you did. No. In my cart. You're not gonna get either of these. Good, keep it coming.
Starting point is 02:06:07 Okay. You're not gonna get either of these. I'm gonna, I just have to like, basically change my entire lifestyle, way of thinking, and every, you know, every thing that I've done. Yeah, you have to become a new person. Yeah. You're not gonna get either of these.
Starting point is 02:06:20 But once I do that, then it's gonna happen. New DNA. No, my DNA is there. It's just been bogged down by all the trash I consume. It is gonna be tough to learn how to dunk when you're golfing all summer. No, I don't think so. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 02:06:37 I mean, we have a basketball court in our, I will walk in the course. PFT, we brought up the rollerblading thing and I was like, absolutely not. And then I was like, you know what? My legs. As a person who's training his legs, I am so down to do rollerblading from LA to San Diego.
Starting point is 02:06:52 So getting a country club membership that you're probably gonna want to use that quite a bit this summer, am I right? We work in a gym. I just have to come to work, which I guess I will do now. Oh, interesting. Yeah, you have to change everything about yourself. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:08 And then you'll be able to donk. Okay. And then my, both of my car key batteries are dead. Dude, you can give me your car keys. Do you have a thing? It's, it, you can change it. Do you have the battery? I mean, it's probably one that you can buy easily
Starting point is 02:07:25 or they probably have it in the control room. That'd be clutch. I also don't know how to open the thing. So how have you been getting into your car? Key? The key, but it's a process. Yeah, it's like an annoying... You can hook it up to a potato too, I think.
Starting point is 02:07:42 Oh, damn. You drive a Rolls Royce That's crazy Let's see Like the pussy wagon keychain you got on there. It's this thing Hank. You just got to get this open You know that it's like right it's sitting right here. So you get that open Then you can what if I hit the panic button? If you get that open there's it's like a watch battery easy alright fire first solve yeah just no fire first for me this week oh wow okay nice I didn't know you're
Starting point is 02:08:18 right stunting on us cheesesteak. PFT. I got a couple of firefests. The first one is the Rick Petino stalkers back. Oh yeah. So we talked about Coach and apparently he lit a fire under his player's ass. Yeah. So Rick Petino, I think he's a great coach
Starting point is 02:08:38 and I think he didn't say anything wrong. We should all chill out. Yeah, he texted me twice. And he also gave me a date. We need to respect Rick Petino as we always I like Rick, but you know I want him on the podcast St. Johns if you're if you're listening, please have Rick Petino come on the podcast. We'd love to have him come on the podcast Yeah, come on. Okay. See you're doing it again. Oh come right other tax I'm gonna get another tax come right on this podcast. This guy's been texting me for like 10 years. I hope he does
Starting point is 02:09:01 Come right on this podcast. This guy's been texting me for like 10 years. I hope he does. Oh yeah, he's texting me, not you. We might get killed. We might get killed if we get killed. I should just give him your number. Yeah, no, don't do that. I tracked him down in Final Four.
Starting point is 02:09:13 Yeah, that's right. Tell that story. Yeah, he no showed. Yeah, he didn't no showed. But then he was like, you say he was there. He was there. I don't know, so maybe he did show. Max does give goon vibes.
Starting point is 02:09:23 He is our goon. We're in a track suit. Anyway, I like Rick Petino. We have, we, listen, we make jokes about everyone on this podcast, including ourselves. So Rick Petino, please come on the pod. It's actually my lifelong dream to last 13 seconds. That's stolen valor of a, of a firefest because he's texting me. Well, he, he was texting you about something that I said on the pod on the bottom He then followed up and texted me more pointedly and then my other my other firefest is
Starting point is 02:09:50 We've got March Band is coming up the final four which also means it's time for the by the way the soccer let's just Great AWOL. Yeah, it's every show. Yeah, just want to at least give him some credit for that. Yeah, he loves you He loves the program that yes, thank you Because it's almost instant when we say something. So I want to say like, I really, I know you want us dead, I think, but do appreciate you subscribing and listening to every episode. Yes. My other firefesses March Madness coming up, Final Four is coming up, which also means the Hong Kong sevens tournaments coming up, the rugby tournament in Hong Kong that I went to a few years ago.
Starting point is 02:10:26 Donnie's been texting me pretty constantly being like, hey, are you gonna come? And then now recently pivoted to, well, who from Barstool should come with me if I'm gonna go over there? It's the last year that they're gonna have the South stand set up the last year where it's gonna be, it's probably gonna continue to be a zoo.
Starting point is 02:10:43 What day did it go? It's the exact weekend of the Final Four. We'll do one Zoom on Sunday. And it was, listen, it was a lot of fun last time. And the first thing I said when I came back is it was so much fun. In fact, it was so much fun that I'm never gonna do it again in my life.
Starting point is 02:10:59 I've been starting to think about doing it. Why don't you just go? Cause last time you went, when did you leave? I left, I think it was like early on the Thursday before the final four. Cause when you fly there, it takes like 18 hours. And then when you're there, it's an exact 12 hour time difference.
Starting point is 02:11:16 So when you guys are taping the show at night, it'll probably be 11 midnight. Yeah, that's tough. And then that would be 11 o'clock in the morning. And we might get and also now that I'm putting these two stories together, that'd be interesting that you somehow are out of the country when we're in a very public spot at the Final Four where Rick Petino Stocker come get us. Huh. It would be interesting. Howard. These are these are unrelated, unrelated instances. Howard. But also you could do in the segment with an athlete who tries to take my job in case
Starting point is 02:11:47 I die on the trip. Yeah. George Kittle did that last time. Yeah, we did. We could. I'll just say, George, you're a great guy. Stick to football. I don't think you can fill these shoes.
Starting point is 02:11:57 But I'm thinking about it. I will make a decision by the end of the week whether or not I'm going to go. Max is shaking his head being like, don't go. You have no idea how fun it was, Max. Yeah, we just got obelos. I just, we got obelos. What obelos? We just got obelos.
Starting point is 02:12:14 Sounds like you're a hater. No. Sounds like you don't want to see me live my best life. No, no. We got obelos. I'll make my final decision by tomorrow, whether or not I'm going. If I don't go, I feel like Mincey would be a great person to go over there with Donnie.
Starting point is 02:12:27 Oh man. I don't know if he might be like Elvis. He might not be able to go out of the country. That's true. Minci in Hong Kong would be special though. Yeah, it would. That is a good replacement. That's a very good replacement.
Starting point is 02:12:39 Maybe I'll have him wear a wig and sunglasses. He can, I mean he does Pat Mahomes. Maybe he can be PFT. You could easily do it. So yeah, I mean, he does Pat Mahomes, maybe he'd be PFT. You could easily do it. So yeah, but I do want to go. I've been I've been feeling the itch recently. And it's like that's such a fun weekend. A lot of rugby. It's just a blast. It's one of the itch. I know I
Starting point is 02:12:56 if I go, I'm not going to take MDMA again. I said that's the first and only time I do that. That's a lot. That's like saying, Hank's gonna dunk. I'm not a drug guy. Even though when I did go to Katara with Donnie, I ended up doing acid. But I don't want to do drugs. The reason that I wanna go over there
Starting point is 02:13:14 has nothing to do with drugs. It's just such a fun time. Okay, my firefest is the Rick Petino Stalker's back texting me. Also, I've actually started a real diet, Chef Donnie's cooking for me, I'm a little grumpy, but I'll be okay. Yeah, you're okay.
Starting point is 02:13:31 No, I'm not. I was a test. You're the grumpy one, because you're sick. You've been sick all week, right in our face. You got the Scottsdale flu. No, my real firefesses, no, actually, I'm not gonna say it because then Hank will use it against me. See what you've done to this podcast. Hank. Yeah. I enjoyed vacation. Okay. Yeah. This
Starting point is 02:13:52 always happens. I did get a little I got the itch though at the end. And also, uh, I'm a big believer. I remember even when I was like a kid and I would go on vacation and I'd be like, I now I can watch like all the MTV I want. Yeah And my mom would be like, it's vacation, go outside. It's like, it's my vacation. I should get to do what I want. So when people are like, stop tweeting about Minci, doing the, what was he on?
Starting point is 02:14:18 He was on the crowd surfing or Sydney Sweeney's boobs. It's my vacation. I can tweet about whatever I want. If it's Sydney Sweeney's boobs, that's okay. You should have tweet about whatever I want. If it's Sydney Sweeney's boobs, that's okay. You should tweet more about the Mountain West on vacation if you really cared about it. Yeah, that's true, but I'm a big believer in if your vacation, like if I could do my real vacation,
Starting point is 02:14:33 it would just be sitting in a room with a bunch of TVs and gambling on every game. That's my real vacation. That's your job though. But it would be nice if I could do it just unfettered. Yeah, yeah, vacation's really nice. It's really nice. I'm not addicted though, so don't get some thoughts Hank. I ain't addicted. It was fine. Jake. Remember when I interviewed with you guys, I sent you my website. Yeah. I haven't touched it in years and I just got a $325 bill for an auto renewal.
Starting point is 02:15:07 Oh, so then renew it. What is your website? It was auto renewal. It was an auto renewal. Is it jakewmarsh.com? Jake W. Marsh. It was just a, it was, I made it when I was graduating college
Starting point is 02:15:17 just as like a real slash resume one stop shop. Oh my God. But I haven't touched it in a long time. This was. And I just spent another $325 unknowingly. Yeah, you got to update this website. I know it's so old. You got to make it flash. Oh, we're on it.
Starting point is 02:15:35 Yeah, you added this part. Yeah, but I haven't touched it since like COVID. I think the last time I had it was maybe one of 20, 2021. I know that we do some advertising with some of these companies, but like this, we should just be like, hey, do you want to last longer in bed?
Starting point is 02:15:56 Just go read Jake Marsh's website. You'll have no problem. Like 90% of the work on there is my college work Just I'm either gonna deactivate it. You want to fuck like a porn star go to jakewmarsh.com Jake is a diehard New York Yankees fan and loves rooting for his hometown teams in Miami as well Some of Jake's hobbies include playing golf tennis and relaxing with his family. You like chilling with a fam Yeah prior to that playing golf, tennis, and relaxing with his family. You like chilling with a fam? Yeah. Prior to that, Jake spent two seasons
Starting point is 02:16:27 as a play-by-play broadcaster at the University of Vermont men's basketball team. His other interests are petting dogs and eating pussy. Yep, word for word. Huh. But yeah. You should have a positions tab on here. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:16:41 Like just have one tab on the website be the Kamasutra. Yeah, no, it should be it should be an auto generator where you can hit like hit for a new position. Yeah, it just pops up a new position. I forgot one fire fest. I have one other fire fest. My last fire fest is I have a really good friend and he's a crazy, crazy sports fan. And he's in for just an absolute ass-kicking on Saturday, and I'm worried about him. Who's his team playing?
Starting point is 02:17:10 I think they're playing... Is it you, Carl? Is it gonna be Ashley Telvaiz? Yeah, I think they're playing you, Carl. This is a no-lose situation. What do you mean? It sounds like you guys could lose by a lot. Yes.
Starting point is 02:17:19 And if you lose by a lot, Rex, then you lose by a lot. It's a no-win situation. No, there's a win. There's a situation. So how is it a no lose? It's an unlaw, because exactly what you're saying. Everyone's expecting Villanova to lose by 30.
Starting point is 02:17:31 If they lose by 30, it's just what happens. Oh no, that'll be funny. No, if you get your ass kicked and it's such a prominent game. But that's what everyone's expecting. You understand that this is the weekend where the nation turns its eyes to college basketball. They're gonna be like 15 point favorites.
Starting point is 02:17:44 Ah, they're not gonna be 15 be 15. It'll be 13. Let's take a look real quick. Let's take a look real quick. 10. I think 82 72. Yeah, it's gonna be a bad. I actually kind of want to see Max. Like I did you want to live stream it 72 60 is what time is it at 7 o'clock Saturday night? Oh perfect live streaming hours Is I'll come in a live stream with you. It's gonna be an absolute blowout. Is it gonna be a must? What must win? No, like this this does absolutely nothing to the committee. It's only positive for the committee All right, I'm gonna just um who are you gonna go out Saturday night, and watch it somewhere? Yes.
Starting point is 02:18:26 Okay, perfect. Okay. This is like the Phillies all over again. What? I'm just gonna pay everyone that you are friends with to make sure they send me all the clips. I actually might try to track Max down. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:18:39 Just stay across the bar in Cognito. But like, I'm going in expecting them to lose by a lot. But in the off chain set, like how much of the public money you think's gonna be on Yukon? A lot, a lot. You're right, you're right. But there is a lose. And also.
Starting point is 02:18:56 If you lose. Yes, correct. But imagine if Hurley loses. After posting that meme. Oh, you'd give him the business I mean that would be that would be an all-time bad tweet I'm also excited for the college game day signs that you guys told yeah, yeah max two sodas We need a lot of max to so none of them
Starting point is 02:19:16 No, but he bring that you con game day max and you max I got your back if anybody brings a max had two sodas Signed to college game day I'm going to have to retweet it so that nobody else does it and be like this person's the only one that can do it Anyone else that does it is not creep. I'll go one up BFT because I don't want these max has two sodas signs anywhere If anyone does a max has two sodas sign I At least be a man about it and put your Venmo on it so that I could send you some money. Yeah. I want some accountability. I want to know. And you know what? Heaven forbid
Starting point is 02:19:58 somebody dresses up like Max and then shows up. It's also bullshit because Gay Day is the Nova Yukon. And then shows up with a foam then shows up over you con and then shows up with a foam dome with two sodas on either side here's what I'm gonna do I I don't want to see any of these Max has two soda signs but I will pick in obviously you know because it's the two sodas I'll pick two of my favorite Max has two soda signs and those people will win a prize on Venmo. I can't wait for that. I can't wait for that. Max has two sodas, maybe pictures of Sad Max included in it.
Starting point is 02:20:33 So it's best sign wins, Max has two sodas. Okay, numbers. Eight. 20. 30. 18. What am I gonna pick? Said 40, Hank? 8 20 30 18 said 40 Hank said 40 Avert
Starting point is 02:20:52 77 77 Pog 99 plug 99 book. What was pug talk the other day that ruled people just talking about pugs It's a pugs new podcast. Pug, what was Pug talk? Did you get in on it? I got in on Pug. They're asking about Pug talk.
Starting point is 02:21:10 Shane, what do you got? It was trending on Twitter, so had to get in on it. Pug. Who said that? Who said that? Who said it? You didn't sign off. Say Pug.
Starting point is 02:21:22 Pug. Pug. I really need headphones. Pug, you're our new big dom. Tell him that. Off Pug your our new big Dom tell him that yeah, I said that new big Dom we were looking for a big Dom on the show And I said and we were trying to figure out and I said it's gotta be you you're you're our big Dom That's fine with me Pugh You don't think my only issue with pug is like if you look at pugs in the wild, like that live in a family, no house that has one pug only has one pug. Right.
Starting point is 02:21:52 You know, they always have pugs. Oh, they come up. Yeah, they're like cats. They're the cats of dogs. You have to have multiple pugs. Yeah. Shane, what's your number? 21.
Starting point is 02:22:00 All right, everyone say their numbers again real quick. 20. 40. 18. 77. 99 pugs. 3. Everyone say their numbers again real quick 20 40 18 77 99 All right see everyone on Monday. Love you guys. I'm talking away. I know what I'm to say, I'm stage anyway. Today's another day to find you, shine away.
Starting point is 02:22:27 I'll be coming for your love, okay? Take on me. Take me. I'm talking away. I'm talking away. I'm talking away. I'm talking away. I'm talking away.
Starting point is 02:22:35 I'm talking away. I'm talking away. I'm talking away. I'm talking away. I'm talking away. I'm talking away. I'm talking away. I'm talking away.
Starting point is 02:22:43 I'm talking away. I'm talking away. I'm talking away. I'm talking away. I'm talking away. I'm talking away. Like a cake, take on me Take me on I'll be gone Into a joke Needless to say I'm all to say, I'm all to say, but I feel so little weight Then it's okay, say after me, it's no better to be safe than silent You can say you can sound me Take on me Take me on
Starting point is 02:23:33 I'll be gone In a day or two I'm not sure what to do with you. Music

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