Pardon My Take - Dallas Braden, Long Gone Summer, Mt Flushmore Of Things Chicks Dig In Honor Of The Long Ball

Episode Date: June 15, 2020

We were very underwhelmed with the Long Gone Summer Documentary even though 90's fashion ruled. (2:30-14:50) PFT made a cameo on Billions as an art thief, and the NBA is back to being in limbo. (14:51...-24:30) Who's back of the week including mini hoops and Reggie Bush. (25:30-42:12) Dallas Braden joins the show to talk about the Long Gone Summer, playing in the end of the steroid era, will baseball happen this year and Yankees cheating. (42:13-1:20:56) Hurt or Injured Video game injuries and the Mt Flushmore of things chicks dig. (1:22:48-1:37:27)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, we review the long gone summer, the documentary Mark McGuire and like a little piece of Sammy Sosa, and then they blamed all the steroids and Barry Bonds. We have Dallas Braden to talk about what's going on in baseball right now, the steroid error or the end of the steroid error when he was a rookie in baseball. We have Who's Back of the Week and a great, great, great Mount Flushmore. It is Monday. Who knows what day it is anymore? Oh, also, we're going to talk a little Kyrie Irving because that is an interesting story that I don't know where it's going to end up.
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Starting point is 00:02:58 should be like a detailed look. Yes, at an era. Yes, where they there were no new facts. Okay, so it was a YouTube compilation with some radio calls, which that is nostalgia. Great, like there was a couple moments like, oh, that's cool. Any documentary that gives us a glimpse of 90s fashion also love. But other than that, it was the Mark McGuire documentary with a small part supporting role of Sammy Sosa, which was weird because Sammy was equally as electric. Obviously, he didn't get the, you know, the home run King. We won the MVP that year. I'm a little biased. 20 home runs in fucking June. They just passed over that. But it was, I actually think it was kind of like, you know, trade, let me go Trey Wingo for a second.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Anchorman, when he hits the conch shell and news team assembled, they did that for this documentary. It was just white old sports writers assemble. And it was just a fucking who's who. If you are an old like 60 plus white sports writer and you weren't in this documentary, fucking retire, dude, because you're done. Rick Riley is so pissed off right now watching this. Costas and George will are like the greatest. That is that is a Jordan and Pippin of of white old guys, sports writers and Costas almost crying about steroids. Bob Costas definitely cold called his way into that documentary. He found out that there was there was a documentary that would be premiering on ESPN that was going to be heavily centered around St. Louis Cardinals baseball.
Starting point is 00:04:28 And that was like the bat signal for Bob. It was a tiny, like a five foot two bat symbol that shot up into the sky. Bob was like, I must be there. It was crazy. I'm just thinking now, how, how could they have all those those broadcasters not have Joe Buck? Like he was in the documentary. Yeah, yeah. He was there. Yeah, I blame Joe Buck for not. No, he probably knew. I'm not trying to be one of these scrubs in this documentary. Joe Buck was complacent, interviewing both Sammy and Mark McGuire and didn't ask him about steroids for shame, Joe. Yes, it is crazy, though, that that was, I want to watch a documentary about the steroid error of baseball. It's a fascinating point in time. The summer of 98 saved baseball. It truly did.
Starting point is 00:05:06 I know that that sounds crazy, but it really did like capture the attention of a nation. Think about this. The fucking, the Cubs played 163 games that year. They got in with the extra game and got swept by the Braves. The Cardinals were in third place. Like this story swept up the country and you're talking about a third place team. It was the biggest story and it was so much fun to watch. And then I watched this documentary. Maybe it's because it's the nostalgia factor. Well, everything we know, the summer of 98 and the whole and the steroid baseball era as like in totality, which I'll never like point a finger and be like, man, those guys, you know, I can't believe they did that because everyone was doing it one. You can't tell me
Starting point is 00:05:52 that Barry Bonds is in a fucking Hall of Famer or Sammy Sosa is in a fucking Hall of Famer, Roger, like all these guys should be in the Hall of Fame, but it does change it a little bit just because you look back and you're like, wow, those numbers like everyone was hitting. I was going through them and the fact that Griffey hit 56 that year, Greg Vaughn hit 50. And then in the next year, they went 65 and 63. And then the next year or sorry, two years later, Bonds hit 73 and Sosa hit 64, which was the Brady Anderson year. That to me will always be the funniest example of steroids a year or two. Yeah. Brady Anderson was in there with the home runs from the leadoff spot, the sideburns, the bell rose place sideburns, but it wasn't just when I say it wasn't just like
Starting point is 00:06:35 it was everyone. I truly mean it was everyone. So I went back and looked. There were nine guys in 1998 who had over 45 home runs. There were nine guys in 2001 who had over 45 home runs since, since like the last, in the last like 10 years, it's basically been one to three guys floating, sometimes zero guys fucking Miguel Cabrera won the home run title in 2012 with 44 home runs. Like those used to be monster numbers back in the day. Right. And it was crazy. It was very funny how they did pin it. They didn't mention steroids until Barry Bonds came along and broke McGuire's record. And then they're like, wait, that was so dirty how they did that. We're like steroids. And then here comes Barry Bonds. I say, I say, let them all into the hall of fame. Let them
Starting point is 00:07:19 all in because you can't take back the dingers. Yes. The dingers were incredible. Barry Bonds was so good that year that he was smashing all those home runs. They, they walked him, I think twice with the bases loaded that year. That's how good he would. Do you know how fucking insanely talented you have to be and scary of a hitter you have to be? Just go ahead and be like, Hey, we'll give you one run because you're going to hit a home run if we serve you a meatball. It's crazy. We should do, maybe we'll do a Barry Bonds numbers deep dive this week to show respect after they did them. So dirty. And this was like, I'm just frustrated. That should have been a great documentary. It really should have. It should have been, they spent the last
Starting point is 00:07:58 fucking 15 minutes talking about steroids. That's it. They swept it on the rug so fast. It was crazy. It was like, Oh, here's this feel good stuff. That was a documentary that if we didn't know they had done steroids, it would have played because we've been like, Whoa, what the ending, but we're watching the whole first hour and 45 minutes being like, yeah. And well, you know what it was? The entire documentary was like a microcosm of what happened in 98 all the way until 2010 where the Andro, they brought up Andro kind of partway through and they mentioned it. They're like, McGuire was caught with this bottle in his life. The Andro in the movie was the Andro in that season. Like they threw you off the trail for a second. They're like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:08:37 there were allegations that he was back to the dingers and then let's get back to the dingers. And then at the very end, after you've already appreciated them, we'll talk about the juice. The best part in this documentary, as far as my money goes, was just seeing King Griffey Jr. swing the bat. That was so sexy to watch. When you were a kid and King Griffey Jr. was in his prime, you would go take batting practice and you turn your hat backwards and your swing would instantly be as good as King Griffey Jr. The goat swing. I just, yeah, I'm just frustrated with the whole documentary because it could have been great. How many balls? How many on the ball scale? Maybe I'm just frustrated because it's like Sammy wasn't in the documentary. And Sammy
Starting point is 00:09:18 is electric. Like when he's like, yeah, God picked Sammy. King Griffey Jr. in the documentary. Yeah, King Griffey Jr. But like, let Sammy talk. Well, also, it's funny. I knew Hank wasn't going to like it because it wasn't heavily centered around a Red Sox player. That's not true at all. I'm a huge fan of documentaries. I love, especially ESPN documentaries. I have watched them all and I enjoy good ones. That was not a good one. If it was just a compilation of David Ortiz's big post-season hits, which this was for a while. This was just, I mean, they made that one and it's a great one. It is a great one. It wasn't, it just didn't have any, like, just asked them. Like, hey, you were fucking juicing. Tell us what it was like. Tell us. Like, I would love a
Starting point is 00:09:57 documentary where they said, hey, Mark McGuire, you hit a bunch of home runs in Oakland. Presumably, you weren't juicing yet. What did it do for you when you started, well, he was pretty skinny. When he met Jose Canseco, they started juicing. But he hit 30 home runs as a rookie. They were injecting each other in the ass with steroids in the open in the locker room. They should have had some of his teammates, like, talking about the perspective of watching him take steroids in the locker room every day. Like, there should have been, there was no, like you said, PFT, there was no new information given in that documentary. When Ken Kaminetti wrote that thing or he went on the record and Sports Illustrated, he said, there are guys where you know that
Starting point is 00:10:30 you're not allowed to slap him in the ass because it'll be too sore from the injection site. I'm sure that Mark McGuire was one of those guys. The only other thing I wrote down for this documentary was I always, I forgot that the 62nd home run for McGuire, the fucking kid, Cuck Hall fame. I know that like, you know, it's cool. Like he gave it back, gave the ball. He passed up a million dollars. Yeah. A million dollars. And then I went and I Googled it. It's someone wrote a story 18 years later. This was like 2017 or whatever it may have been, I can't do math. But he said, he said that giving the ball back led to several opportunities, including a face to face with President Bill Clinton. That aged well. Well, at least it was
Starting point is 00:11:15 Petrified Island with Jeffrey Epstein. At least it was face to face. Yeah, that aged well. And he also received a red minivan from Chrysler. That's pretty sweet. Dude, dude, dude, those Chrysler Town and Countries, I used to have one of those. Oh man. The mistake was the red one. You should have got the wood grain paneling on the side. Fuck. That's paper. That guy, though, he just, like, I know it's the right thing to do. And it's the old like, if you found five, you know, $50,000 on the ground, like, would you give it in? Like, I don't know, man, you had a fucking ball. Like it's still going to probably go to Cooperstown. You could sell it to Markiplier. Sell it to baseball. There was a lot of talk that summer about what are you going
Starting point is 00:11:51 to do? Oh, imagine if you caught the 61st home run. Yeah. And then somebody catches that and they're like, oh, shit, that's not going to be the most valuable one. The 62nd one where he actually breaks the record. Now that's the one that you can retire off. Right. Then then they get that ball out into left field and you can't retire on that one because the real valuable ball, in theory, would have been the last one that he hit or 73 by bonds or 73. So basically, what we're finding out is like all of the get rich, quick schemes in the 90s, which were trying to get like home run baseballs that would sell for a ton of money, beanie babies, beanie babies, pets.com and McDonald's Monopoly. We're all a sham. That sucks. Fuck. Fuck. Our entire childhood
Starting point is 00:12:32 was a lie. Yeah. Well, I'm glad I didn't get any of those things then. I was one of the smart ones that didn't catch a valuable home run. Yes. But yeah, I just, I don't know. I'm just disappointed. It's rare the 30 for 30s miss. And I still love like, there were moments. They were moments. Oh, by the way, they've made like 130 for 30s. Dude, what was the name? Long gone summer. Long gone summer. What was the sounds like a shitty song? That was like the 97th 30 for 30. What was 30 years? And then and then Kid Rock makes it make 700. Yeah, he combines that with free bird. Yeah. What was the thought process behind splicing in modern day Wrigley like into nostalgic shots? It was so bizarre. Like I don't understand who they pick up on that when they were like,
Starting point is 00:13:21 there was a fucking good kid in Chris Bryant Jersey. They're like, but it wasn't, it wasn't like, oh, here's today. It was shot of of Sammy in 98 shot of the bleachers today shot of Sammy. And they were showing the shots of today as B roll. It was crazy back then. Okay, crazy. I'm, you know what I was really mad about? They didn't ask Sammy about his explanation because Sammy has never tested positive publicly steroids, right? Never tested positive. His excuse and the cork was a showbath. Yep. There was a showbath that he used in batting practice only. When they were, you want to show or no? No, I do want to show. I'm on the record as being pro dinger, but they didn't show when when he was asked about the mysterious weight gain that he had when he got
Starting point is 00:14:06 to Chicago, how he put on like 30 pounds of muscle. Do you remember his explanation was? Yeah. Well, his hot dogs. And also he said that he had a bad wisdom tooth his whole life. And then he finally got it taken care of when he got to Chicago and he was able to finally eat. So he put on 30 pounds of muscle in an offseason. Sammy is hilarious. I know he is fucking sneezed and in broke his back. I mean, the jukebox is actually like they should do a 30 for 30 on Sammy's jukebox that no one was allowed to touch. And then someone smashed it. And it's like the like, you know, him leaving the last game of the season, his last Cubs game. And they still won't bring him back, which is another weird one. Just like, why would you ignore a piece of your history?
Starting point is 00:14:46 Uh-huh. I think Mark McGuire is doing steroids again. He's going to get the UST treatment. Little little foreshadowing. What Mark? Oh, yeah, we're going to get to it. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Other things. PFT was in a show tonight. I was on billions of much, much better. Yeah, much better. Yeah, a little cameo. There's there's Emmy and Oscar buzz somehow behind it. They knew what they were doing when they put me next to CeCe Sabathia, six foot seven, six foot eight, some websites are saying. And they had me stand in the background behind them. It was a major Altuve Aaron judge situation. You look good. You look like an art guy. I did. I bought those glasses specifically because they told me it was going to be at an art show.
Starting point is 00:15:23 So I was like, these are these are my art glasses that I look through for that. They cut out my improv line, though, where I told I told Axe, I think you should make me I said, I think you should pay for your own fucking stadiums. Shit. Yeah, absolutely roasted. Come on. Oh, didn't put in your head. It would have been great. That's that's what I had planned. Yeah. Any time you show up to be an extra, how long I don't care how long like if you have a speaking part that's been written for you, if you're one of like 2000 extras in the background, you have to have an improv line ready to go for it. So mine was going to be if they asked, I was going to tell them, hey, pay for your own fucking stadium. Bobby Axelrod. How long
Starting point is 00:16:01 were you on set for for their for that appearance? About five hours is about five hours. Shout out to Brian Koppelman for making it happen. I mean, I've been watching billions since it debuted. So this was like, it was a pretty cool setup. So this was the last day, I think before quarantine happened. So nobody was allowed to like touch hands or anything on set. It was it was an awesome experience, except for the fact that they poured me champagne. They asked me what kind of drink I wanted to have. I said, yeah, I'll take champagne because that's what people around me were getting and I'm not I'm not a diva. Oh, like as your as your as your role in the in the shot. So everyone had like a drink in their hand. People get drunk on movies. I TV show sets. I just had a I just had
Starting point is 00:16:38 a champagne flute. And so they poured it for me. And then I took a sip. And then I'm like, oh, yeah, it's just water that's been dyed to look like champagne. You know, that that really I was it took all my acting ability to be able to act like I was holding real champagne. And I bet none of you guys knew that. If you watch the episode, that's such a great act. Yeah, such a great actor. So that was method. Yes, you look the the glasses were so perfect. You were just you were like so ho. You were basically like guy three in every like so ho art. That's exactly what I was. It wasn't so ho as well. Guy who doesn't talk. Yeah, guy who doesn't talk and attends an art show and pretends to know what's going on. So when I probably has a probably has a huge bag
Starting point is 00:17:18 of cocaine in his pocket, I did not have the crew. I did not have the cocaine care. I showed up empty handed like a schlub. But when I got there, they put me into the like hair and makeup room. Like, yeah, this guy doesn't need makeup. And then they, I guess they asked how close I was going to be to the camera all that. And they looked at my hair and they were like, is this is this what you normally look like? And I was like, yeah, that's that's the sneakiest mean nice thing that anyone's ever said to me. That's really fun. And then they just kind of ran a comb through my hair and sent me out there to get him. That is funny. That is funny. Um, yeah, it was it was a very funny visual. I wish we'd been watching that and not the documentary.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Yeah, whatever. I'm still mad. I don't know. I think you're you're more mad than most people are because of the Sammy thing. Yeah, this is me off. Why he's so electric. I think that it's actually a good thing for Sammy to not be closely associated with this documentary. Yeah, I just Yeah, part two, Sammy. So just give us unfiltered Sammy or just that that month that he had going to more detail about that. And and I thought that the best parts were just watching the home runs. Really the man with really the documentary was just great for those of us that lived through it. And we were like, Yeah, that was awesome. Yeah, that home run was awesome. Yeah, I remember that home run. That was awesome. Just moonshots. But yeah, overall, I'm going to give it
Starting point is 00:18:38 it two balls. What I give it a 5.5. I gave 1.6. Okay, so the other story we have before we get to who's back Kyrie Irving and other players in the NBA PA, they had a big meeting or sorry, phone call on Friday, was it where they discussed going back to play and Kyrie Irving said that they shouldn't because it would take away from Black Lives Matter, what they're what people are pushing for right now. The thing I don't understand, I actually Kyrie's statement, I actually kind of agree with like his point is if you're if we're pushing for something to radically change, the one thing you don't want to allow is for people to be like, can we just get back to normal? Because like when you're back to normal, it's an easy way of just saying,
Starting point is 00:19:26 Oh, well, like we'll deal with that later. You know what I mean? So what he's saying, I actually completely understand. I think that the Kyrie being like a tougher messenger just because of like his, you know, the flat earth, the weird stuff. But it also, I just don't understand like, okay, so if now's not the time, when would it be the time to go back and play? Yeah, I'm fine with them saying, Hey, we're not going to go back right now because we got to focus like Dwight Howard in a statement, focus on the community like that. I get it. I get what they're saying. But this is going to take a while. And so is it going to be next year too? When is the appropriate time? I'm fine with whatever answer, but I just don't understand. So if you make it about not
Starting point is 00:20:08 wanting to distract from other more serious issues, then you're also opening the door for saying when you do come back, you're kind of saying that you're coming back because you feel like something's been accomplished. And so then it's like, okay, well, when would that exact time be as a self or sports fan? I would love to see some NBA playoffs. It would be amazing. But Kyrie, he's not wrong. I hope they figure out a way to do both. Right. Ideally, he's not wrong because it is really like when you say to yourself, I just want it to be back to normal. What you're saying is I want to be back to normal where like we just stuffed, you know, like the racial issues in America down in a box, like, like, oh, we'll deal with that later. Yeah, I get that. Listen,
Starting point is 00:20:46 I would like to forget about everything that's going on too. But a lot of people can't forget about it. So that's what they're getting at. And yeah, Dwight and Kyrie, it is a pretty weird duo that's kind of like leading the charge. It'd be weird. I wonder how the vice president of the play is trying to be the voice of like, you know, if you're a player, you should be able to get your voice heard. I think a lot of people are misconstruing that where it's like, it is his literal job and role to speak out on behalf of the play. And I think the the the the issue that people like the the message, I understand the messenger in Kyrie Irving, again, he can say whatever and he can like he's he's right. I agree with what he's saying. But he also has
Starting point is 00:21:26 had like a string of weird, like me first thing. So it's it's harder to like, I think I understand it. But I think the like regular fan like people can be like, what the fuck is Kyrie talking about? If I could play devil's advocate here, I think that Kyrie is actually just playing devil's advocate. I think Kyrie loves playing devil's. I feel like he loves taking kind of the the contrarian point of view and asking questions. And a lot of times it makes him seem like kind of a strange guy. But sometimes he has a point. And I think I think he does have a point. But I also think that there's probably a way that they'll figure out that's going to be kind of a meet in the middle thing where they figure out a way to play the games while simultaneously kind of keeping
Starting point is 00:22:09 the discussion at the national forefront. Yeah, I think that's eventually where we're going to end up. But yeah, Kyrie, I think more than anything, he wants that opposing point of view to be out there. Yeah, and have it be discussed. It's just the Kyrie's the string of Kyrie stories from like the last, I don't know, five years have all been not great. So it's weird. And not again, he can he the message is the message here. It's just when I saw it from Kyrie, I was like, huh, you know what this is like, what would happen if it was from LeBron? I think it would be a lot different. You know what this is doing? This is actually a good test in our mental strength. If you want to be a mental alpha, sometimes you have to be able to see somebody's point of view who you
Starting point is 00:22:52 disagree with about everything else. Yes. Yeah. No, it's true. So I don't know what's going to happen. I mean, it's it's I hope they play. But I do it feels like it feels like all the sports right now are in a weird limbo that it might just like we're back. I feel like we've gone backwards two weeks ago. It felt like sports were coming back. Now I couldn't tell you what's going to happen. Yeah, like even college football, you saw the Houston player tested positive for coronavirus. They just shut that down like what what if that keeps happening everywhere? I'm just at the mindset that college football has proved themselves to be a sport that's just going to say full send. Let's just do at least the south for sure. Yes, we're just going to do it and
Starting point is 00:23:32 we'll figure out all the drawbacks after they happen. What would you guys say chances that they play the NBA season? 75% Okay, that seems about right. Hockey I haven't heard anything from even though. No, COVID is just an upper body injury to hockey player. Baseball seems like it's going to be 50 games. NFL is going to power through college football. I don't know what's going to happen because that college football is the big question mark in my mind because if it's if it's at all like a health issue, they're not getting paid. Immediately throw your MLS can be back. Fucking sick. Super Rugby debuted this weekend down in New Zealand. Also Bowden Barrett switching teams. Oh, wow, really? Big time like LeBron James going
Starting point is 00:24:15 to LA type thing. I would also if we made the cat talk like 10 minutes in the future of this podcast and say that I do have another who's back. Oh, okay. Denny Hamlin. Yeah, Denny won. Then he's back. Also who's back? Slowie. Slow Gano. He got slapped. He got his ass slapped. Did he really? Yep. I've read that. I read one tweet about that. So maybe not. You got to run around the track naked. Yeah. Skunk. Yeah. Okay, before we do who's back of the week. A quick word from our friends at Omaha Stakes. Father's Day is coming up. Father's Day is Sunday, I believe. Yes, it is. It's a week from today. And I know that because I'm a dad now and want this gift. So someone hint, hint, Hank PFT, Liam, Bob, Billy, someone get me this gift right
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Starting point is 00:27:22 years ago. Okay. Yes. Reggie Bush. Yes. OJ Mayo. I don't know about OJ Simpson if they bought him back or not. Probably not. But the way he was tweeted like for a split second, I saw the OJ Mayo announcement and I thought he was going to be playing this year. Yeah. It was like OJ Mayo has been reinstated as if he had been suspended. I guess it's just so they could sell more like merchandise because I don't really know what. Well, Reggie Bush can probably now get paid to do like promotional stuff for USC. The house is now go give give speeches and all that stuff. It's so stupid. The house is now officially paid off. So therefore they can bring him back and reinstate him. So yeah, it's absolutely. I think they can sell Reggie Bush merchandise now. They
Starting point is 00:28:03 can put his face on like tickets, season ticket packages, things like that. He could probably go in the locker room like, you know, before the game and stuff like that. It's it's it's one of the dumbest penalties that that happened because OJ Mayo like what are they going to they don't how can they promote him? He didn't even. But Reggie's Reggie Bush. Well, well, he's pretty good at college. He had a he was the highest he was the highest drafted USC player, but he was a bust. And then what you're not thinking about what you're not thinking about is he's got one of the sweetest names of all time. They can just market his name. Like OJ Mayo is hearing people are like, Oh yeah, I remember that. I just don't understand how you could ever be like,
Starting point is 00:28:39 these stupid penalties where they try to erase memories. Reggie Bush is so synonymous with USC and those USC teams were so fucking electric. And for them to be like, Hey, now we can celebrate Reggie like no. Yeah, we all have been doing that. Right. That's why it made no sense to me. But it just seemed like it was a it was a they could just sell now now sell Reggie Bush jerseys in the store. Yes, he's very much back though. OJ Mayo career earnings go. Oh, actually less than I thought. 45 million 45 million. Yeah. Is that it? Yeah. Yeah. Fuck yeah. Yeah. Well, less than I thought. You only I mean, you only made one contract. Yeah, I know. But everyone gets I mean, 45 million. Honestly, that's Tony Stelz contracts 45 million. That's a disappointing
Starting point is 00:29:22 amount of somebody who's that marketable. Yeah, he was a bust. Okay. And is that it? For who's back? Yeah. Are we doing whom's back? Who's back? Just USC? Yeah, if we're doing who's back, that's it. I have one who's back because it's who's back. Okay. I love how they were having like Snoop Dogg on the sidelines, but they're like Reggie Bush. No, you're still persona. My who's back of the week is the Mayans. The Mayans are back. Their calendar is back. The end of the world is back. There was an interpretation saying that going off the Julian calendar, Billy just gave you like a mind blown like yes. Yeah. Well, Billy's obviously did I steal yours, Billy? I didn't know I was supposed to do one.
Starting point is 00:30:00 Okay. Yeah. So the Julian calendar, I guess is what now people are saying. The Mayans were actually basing their December 21, 2012 prediction off of. So they're saying, guess what? The world is going to end in like 10 days or something. So that we were due for this. This is the summer of fear porn. As we've gone through the murder hornet, we've gone through the Yellowstone volcano pretty soon. I next up in the wind is going to be it's going to be a summer of the shark again. We're overdue for a shark attack. People in the beaches. Yeah, but we're still going to have some shark attack. Like I know one actually. Yeah, that because sharks are back this summer. Right. Sharks are there was blood dirt more blood thirsty than ever. Yeah, we're due for
Starting point is 00:30:38 a shark attack summer. We're due. We already have the locusts. So we got the plagues. Cicadas are coming. And I'm going to say hurricane season. We're due for an article that's going to say experts predict the 2020 hurricane season to be five times as powerful as it is normally. Well, that's unfortunately going to happen every year for the rest of our life. Yeah, so the Mayans are definitely back. So I think we have 10 days. So get that bag pack that we talked about the other day of all the shit that you want to do when you get the 10 minute notification that the world's about to end. So their clock was just wrong. Well, the interpretation of the clock is the sun. Yes. But if you the way that it works is over the course of the last, I don't know, 10,000 years,
Starting point is 00:31:17 however long it's been since the Mayans made that prediction. We've lost like 2000 days. My math is very off on that. But we've lost enough days where going back to December 12 of 2012, it's like that period to now you don't get this bullshit. You don't get a redo. If you say that the world's going to end, you got to fucking drink your own Kool-Aid and die in your fucking air monarchs. You have to do that. You don't get a redo. The people who decide like the world is ending. Here's a cult. I know the Mayans weren't a cult, but they decide the world is ending. You don't get a redo. That's a one time thing. Well, if you know anything about cults, there are guys that make their entire living off of predicting every like two years.
Starting point is 00:31:59 And being wrong. And they're like, you better give me all your money and that way I can ensure that you're going to get on the spaceship that takes you to heaven. But that's why they're a sham. Not because they're a cult, like anyone could have a cult. And I'll believe if they're like, Hey, this is what it's going to end. You at least have my ear. But if you get it wrong once, you're out. I think the world is going to end. January. No, it's going to be after the super pool. February 10th, 2045. That's my prediction. Okay, you got to die though. If you don't get that right, you have to drink. I'm going to be I'm going to be the Kool-Aid. Okay. Yeah. How old are you going to be? You didn't actually figure it out. I didn't. It just seems like 25. 2045.
Starting point is 00:32:40 I was to carry the phone. 2045 seems like long enough in the future. 60 where I'll either be old enough to not be the biggest math ever. 2045. 2045. Okay. Yeah. On my 80th birthday in 2045, I'm going to go out with a prostitute and a bad batch of heroin. Boom. All right. My who's whom's back. I have to Hank, if that's okay. That is first is a brandly chamberly because he's back because he said on the golf channel that social media is a cesspool because excuse left. I think it's just a cesspool because your name is fucking brandly Chambliss and you suck, dude. Here's the explain to Hank. Why is politics in terms of left and right? Oh, I think I know this. I think it's like back in the day where they sit. Yeah, they yeah, they used to sit people on the left versus
Starting point is 00:33:28 on the right based on what party it's got to be. It's something really stupid. It's like, oh, they just happened like it probably was some fucking like liberal politician was super fat. The first seat was right next to the door to the left. Yeah, I was at two entrances. Yeah, extremes on either end. Right. Oh, speaking of another who's back is Paw Patrol. Oh, it is. Paw Patrol got canceled online, but not really canceled. But there was talk about canceling it because I guess the dogs, I don't know your dad, I'm a dad too, but you're you've probably seen more Paw Patrol than I haven't. We're not at the ability. We're not the ability to hold one thought or like attention for more than 15 seconds. So they got canceled because the dogs
Starting point is 00:34:10 are police officers, I think. Yeah, just can't. Yeah. So they got canceled, but then they got brought back. They should I was saying this on the live stream, there should be an alternate programming at the same time. Antipa, which is a radical left wing dog cartoon show. And then they can just fight against each other. I like that. And then we can have, yeah, we just tell us all the current events. Maybe you don't have to watch CNN or Fox or anything anymore. You can just watch that. Honestly, yes. Just give me, yeah, have cartoons explained everything. My other who's back is Mini Hoops because I bought one for my son and he actually his grandfather bought it for him for his birthday. So I should say that, but it is awesome to have a Mini Hoop back in my
Starting point is 00:34:46 life. I was putting up buckets today. They're so awesome. Like I feel like I'm wet on a Mini Hoop from on a couch. Dude, you just throw it. It always goes in. I gotta say, like, my son can't walk yet, but he can hold himself up and he fucking sucks at defense. He was just hanging on the rim while I was just splashing in his face. You should cross them up. You should put videos out of you absolutely breaking your son's ankles. Rim protection I've ever seen. So I'm back though. I'm going to start. I'm just gonna be throwing down dunks, you know, just doing random fucking trick shots. How high is the it's like, and maybe two feet. I could dunk on that. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yes, you can get wet on that hoop. Yeah. So I'm back in the Mini Hoop
Starting point is 00:35:28 game. It feels good. I'm going to buy so many Mini Hoops. You know what I loved? There's there was like two years of your life when you're the exact right height to have the hoop that goes on top of your door frame. Yep. And you can dunk on it, but it's not super easy to dunk on. Yep. That felt like you were on the moon when you were able to do like a reverse dunk on that. Yes. I remember I used to play on like a I think we had a six foot ceiling. And so the hoop was like five foot three inches and we were still just like running around like dunks only each other. Yeah. It's getting thrown into a radiator. I still like to touch the top of the door frame when I'm going like underneath the door. You guys feel like I'm jamming. Did you guys ever know a kid who had the
Starting point is 00:36:04 the hoop on the back of the door that was like it had like a shoot to the to the hamper to that was the most eyeball cool invention ever where they tricked everyone to do their laundry doing their laundry by by using a basketball hoop. Doing laundry is a game kids. No, it's not. Yeah. So fucked up. Honestly, I still would yam on that when I had a friend that had one of those and they used it. I was like, dude, your mom is playing bro. You're such a sucker. You are like you're this is 1984. You're just a robot and the man has got you. They got you. You are you are so lame. All right. So speaking of that, I got another Father's Day gift for everyone out there. We're wearing them right now are whoops. They are awesome. Dads do yourself a favor. Get yourself
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Starting point is 00:37:21 track of things like heart rate, activity, strain, hours of sleep in your body's overall daily performance. And you're probably wondering this, but yes, they even count dad naps. So I took a nap today and I got my little extra like hour and 20. They have a little emoticon. It's not the same as laying in bed. It's like a half sitting up dad nap. It's perfect. And you can basically maximize who you are as a person and who you are as a dad. And here's the great thing we're doing later this week. We're holding a special contest for AWL's in the whoop app to see who can post the best numbers. Billy football will be participating. So everyone who joins will have the opportunity to take on and beat Billy stats for your chance to win $250 in PMT merch.
Starting point is 00:38:02 If you come in first place overall, that's going to be huge because Billy still works out. Well, he's kind of getting a little tubby, but he still works out. He still doesn't sleep. He will be post posting major numbers every single day on the whoop app. So full details to come in the next couple of days, but get on whoop today with the code take for 15% off and please, please beat Billy. Billy, you need to get like max strain every day. Yeah, I don't know what that means, but will you guys be like three hour work? Your heart rate needs to be up in like the 140 to 170 raise the majority of your day. And I'm actually going to be paying very close attention to your sleep stats as well. I want you to be not only the most fit person, but also the most well rested
Starting point is 00:38:45 person. Well, if I have to go home early to sleep, is that yeah, that's fine. I have a don't get mad. I have a who's back in the week. Okay, go ahead. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. We asked and you said I don't have one idea. I know. I know. I know. I know. So get 15% off on whoop today with code take for 15% off. Please be Billy. I who's back the week scary insects. So now, now they're trying to scare us and say there's a new mosquito born illness. Oh, I saw that equine. Oh, fuck that. Yeah, it's it's three to 15 people get it a year and only 4% of people who get stung by or bit by the mosquito with the disease get it. It's absolutely BS. It's like three to 15 is a lot. I'm sorry if you do contract it, but it's not enough. We three to 15 people. Yeah. No,
Starting point is 00:39:37 that's not a lot. I don't want to apologize. Everyone got mad at me about talk to the No, you don't have to apologize. What happens if you get it? You die. 40% of people die. So like six people die. Yeah. At max. At least one. Now are there more of this illness this year? Yeah, they're saying they're just bringing it back up because four to 16. Am I correct? It's only in the northeast and we had a pretty light winter. I would say not too much snow. So you could tell me any single year you could be like, yeah, we had a heavy winter. We had a light winter. I'd be like, okay, if you tell me that in June, I would never remember. So mosquitoes are out. I mean, it's it's fear mongering. I hate it. I'm going to try to hunt it down on the internet because it pisses
Starting point is 00:40:21 me off. Okay, we got more rats. So we're starting to protect us. No, they're fighting each other. Billy, you should get the disease and beat it. I mean, if you really want to name the disease after my immune system is pretty strong. That's a brag. So check out the whoop. Yeah. I mean, I body diseases pretty easily. Okay, so that's true. You did survive coronavirus. I did. Yeah. Well, wait, so if a mosquito like bites you, they're sucking your coronavirus out of you. Yeah, you're going to get them. So no, actually, actually berserker blood called mosquitoes sucks out my antibodies. Yeah. Then get in and spread it to other people. Yeah. We're going to do Billy, we're going to take you to like the moistest swamp area in this location. He lives in a
Starting point is 00:41:02 base. Yeah, I moved out. I'm going to barn. Oh, yeah. There's a pond next to it. Okay. So what we're going to do is we're going to tie you to the tree next to your pond and just let mosquitoes feast on you and then send them out to spread the antibodies out. Gotta get my blood sugar high, though. Yeah. Okay. I like that. I like that you're like, I don't do that anymore. It's like good toes. I don't shine shoes. I don't shine shoes. I don't live in a, I don't live in a basement anymore. I live in a barn. How are the frogs doing? The frogs are thick. Yeah, they look they're thick. I actually, you know, a twitch check may have dropped and I might be trying to get an African bullfrog, which Billy, yeah, I'm, I'm, uh, how much is a church check?
Starting point is 00:41:40 Don't ask. I mean, I'm just saying it's, I'm going to get 60 bucks. So I'm going to get like this three pound frog. It was like 1499. There's it's not small potatoes to me. I'm going to get this three pound frog. They're huge. They're African bullfrogs. They're called pixie frogs on the market and they eat mice and like, you know, if I get, yeah, I use, like, they're sick. Can we let it loosen here? Cause we had a dude, they're the only frog with teeth teeth yet. It's awesome. Anyway, I'm okay. I'm going to get one. All right. Let's get to our interview with Dallas Braden. We talk a little long gone summer. We talk a little baseball. What the hell is going on and whether or not Dallas Braden never did steroids. Okay. We now welcome on our good friend, co-worker,
Starting point is 00:42:27 host of starting nine, uh, one time no hitter pitcher. It is Dallas Braden. Well, you give up no hits. There's a no hitter. Um, Dallas, we have a lot to talk about. There's a lot of baseball news. Uh, let's start though, uh, quickly with the long gone summer, which we actually have not watched yet. We're taping this before, but you have watched. Yes. So, uh, you came into the league right at the end, right, right at the end, Mitchell reports 2007. So you come in the league and credit to you, by the way, your first season, you made sure no one suspected you're doing steroids because you were one in eight with a six, seven, two ERA, but the first one, the first one. All right. It's probably a lackluster offense. I'm not going to put it on my teammates, but yes.
Starting point is 00:43:12 Yeah. So, but, so what are your memories from the end of that era where, uh, did you see guys still trying to do stuff in the, in the clubhouse going through like the national conscience of like, Hey, we got to stop the steroids. What was it like from a player's point of view? Um, I mean, not, not specifically in, in my clubhouse. And if I'm being honest, it's because I was a rookie and I'm around a lot of savvy vets. Like I'm, you know, head in the locker, like I was not a guy who was bebopping around the clubhouse, like try to do my own thing and anybody should. I honestly spent a lot of time watching Dan Herron and Houston Street play street fighter. And that was pretty much like how I, how I got outside of my bubble. Um,
Starting point is 00:43:53 but no, like there was, yeah, there was a conscious effort in terms of like trying not to be labeled because you would see guys who, you know, may or may not have had clouds of suspicion around them. And you could, you could sort of feel guys by the way they were speaking to the media or, you know, maybe avoiding the media or whatever. And you, you kind of knew you could, you could, it was palpable. Like, Oh, that's an effort to clean it up. You know, that's an effort to not be saddled with this any longer. Like, get me the fuck away from this list. Right. Yeah. And your, your fastball topped out at what 82? Yeah, you're out.
Starting point is 00:44:29 So yeah, you were cut, cut, cut, cut fastball. Yeah. There you go. Um, but when, when you were coming up to the minor leagues, I've always heard that minor league players kind of took the steroids issue a little bit more seriously because they could find themselves in like a log jam situation where the guy ahead of them for the major league club was very clearly or was suspected of using some sort of performance enhancing drug. And their testing wasn't as, as strict as it was in the minor leagues. Was there ever any of that sentiment going around like, man, I really, I, they need to clean up the big league game so that it's a fair playing field for us down here.
Starting point is 00:45:02 Sure. You, you, you feel that way, but this is something I've always said about steroids and the decision. Okay. It's, this is a business decision. And you've got to, you've got to, you got to think about a few things here. One, am I good enough? Do I believe that I'm good enough on the other side of getting popped on the other side of the suspension? Am I already good enough for teams to overlook that and give me a chance because what I had in the tank already was something that was sexy, something that appealed to them. So if that's the case, cool decision, you know, check, I can check that off. Next one. Can I handle the ridicule from outside sources? Can I handle that mental pressure of other people telling me
Starting point is 00:45:41 how big of a cheat I am, how much I suck, how terrible I am, what a ripoff and fraud, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. If I can handle that, cool. Check that box. And then the last thing is am I okay with being able to look the man in the mirror, look my friends, family, fans, whatever. Can I look them in the eye and be okay with making that decision? And if at the end of the day you can check all three of those boxes, that's a business decision regardless of who's in front of you, regardless of who you're trying to stave off behind you. If you can check those boxes based on the penalties that are in front of these guys for making that decision, it's purely a business decision. And I watched that unfold in my own backyard in Oakland, not, I mean, recently
Starting point is 00:46:24 as a, you know, as a broadcaster, we had an individual on our team who got popped. And if you think about it, it's a pure business decision. That's all it is. What do you take away from the steroid era? Like, are you firmly in the camp of let these guys in Cooperstown or are you like, this is a stain on the game? Because the craziest part, I'm sure they get to it in the documentary, but the fact that it was so open, that Mark McGuire, literally the start of this conversation is Mark McGuire having Andro in his locker room next to his like trident gum and Copenhagen, it was that blatant. Well, yeah, but your dentist could have had that same bottle next to the Novocaine, right? The fucking librarian could have had the same bottle next to whatever the hell he
Starting point is 00:47:10 or she's popping behind the like anybody could have had that. And that's what with the, that was the early part of it was, yeah, like, sure, this dude with fucking redwoods hanging off his elbows for forearms is taking this and it's available to, like I said, the librarian at the time, you could go and buy this at CVS, right? So it's not like they were hiding that, you know, and in terms of being illegal, that specifically, that wasn't, but then, you know, you dig into it in the culture. And obviously, we know it's, it's, no, not just stopping at Andro. Yeah. So yeah, it's an it was an issue. So, so do you think these guys should be in the hall of fame? Because it is funny looking back at the era and just how, how crazy the numbers were compared to where they've
Starting point is 00:47:53 been, even in the juice ball era now, like they still don't touch, like the fact that they not only crushed Roger Marys record, but then Barry Bonds beats it a couple of years later and Sammy beats it two more times. Like it was, it wasn't just like, Oh, we got 62 one month. No, they fucking blew it out of the water and everyone was blowing it out of the water. Well, you're talking about changing the game, right? You know what I mean? Like changing the way the game is played, change, like three run homers, like fuck taking a, you know, bunt, excuse me, what that became an absolute, like, no, you can't say that word. And that was the evolution of all of this is we've got, we got a guy in the eight hole who's going to hit 30, this dude's going to hit 30 pumps. Like,
Starting point is 00:48:31 what do you, what the fuck do you mean, but we are changing everything about the game. So, do they deserve to be in the hall of fame? In my opinion, because of what the game has evolved from, where we were, where we're at, where we're going. Yes. Why? Because this is a museum that is telling the story and the history of the game. All right. I'll leave it up to the moms and dads, the aunts and uncles, grandmas and grandpas, you guys go ahead and tell Timmy and Tammy what kind of characters they were. I'll let you do that. Okay. If that's what you want to do, that's your responsibility. But the hall of fame's responsibility is to let you know that that home run record was shot on and then shot on again and then shot on again. Like,
Starting point is 00:49:10 that's what the hall of fame is there for. I've always said that you, they should let the guys in the hall of fame because there was also an advantage being gained on the pitching side of things. So it wasn't just the hitters that were getting better, but it was also, it was also the pitchers. From your perspective, I'm interested to hear what kind of advantage could a pitcher get besides getting, you know, an extra five, you know, probably maybe five, but like probably three to five miles an hour on that fastball. Bounce back, Mr. Commenter. Bounce back. Imagine being able to get on that peloton after banging out somewhere between 360, four, imagine being able to whip boogers ass five days in a row, no stop. Okay. I mean, bounce back. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:49:47 It's, it's the ability to bounce back. And that is what it is. It's obviously the strength advantages are there, but if your body is rebounding and repairing and healing at a rapid rate over the course of what we know to be a marathon, a trudge of a, of a season advantage, right? And you've got five days in between your workdays as a starting pitcher. So if you're able to rebound like day five, you're probably feeling like, shit, this is, this is like seven days off. Like, you know, I couldn't imagine being able to like work through that. Like what that would feel like you would feel like a fucking like, like secretariat. Right. What about when you're, when you were at the end of your career, you ever think about it? You ever like, Hey, I could probably, you know,
Starting point is 00:50:31 I've been injured. I could probably help myself out a little, maybe get a couple more years out of this career. Oh, I mean, dude, trust me. Like I said, that's part of the whole business decision thing. But, um, and, and for me, one, did I believe that I was good enough on the other side of getting popped or whatever? Absolutely not. Uh, two, I know, man, I would hate anybody to think like, Oh, wow. Like the one good day of work, imagine that getting tainted. Like, like, fuck, you kidding me? I have to work my ass off to not blow away in the wind. And, and I couldn't imagine having that put in like put into a negative light. Like because of the people who, who helped me get to where I was like, no way. I know, but I tell you what, like immediately after I retired, I was like,
Starting point is 00:51:17 yo, is there a fucking steroid tree that I can grow in my backyard? I'll give me all of them. I just want to see like, I want to see how big I could get, how jacked I get. Like I would love to do that. Right. That'd be awesome. Yeah. You actually should have done that. You should have retired and then you should have had an entire second career where you come back. And then that way the comeback, the Dallas Braden 2.0 is separate from the original one. So the, the perfect game, the no hitter remains like untainted and unscathed. Uh, as far as your legacy goes, but Dallas Braden 2.0 shows up like 235. Yeah. Hide and play in sight. Be like, I'm making a comeback and I'm doing steroids and people like, haha, that's funny. Like, no, I told you guys like when I got popped,
Starting point is 00:51:57 I told you what I was doing. So I got, I had stem cell, I had stem cell therapy done, right? And I had PRP done. I had all this shit done right like at the, at the beginning of these treatments being a thing. And I couldn't have that done and be public about it because if something goes wrong or whatever, then the team would be able to void my contract. They'd be able to take money away from me because if, if I have that done and that's not sanctioned and I still am unable to come back, well, they could say, Oh, well, it's probably because he had this unsanctioned procedure done. So yep, give me that money back. And so I was, so I was like, no, I can't do that. So I had to wait it out. I had to wait for the contract to expire and I shit you not 48 hours after my
Starting point is 00:52:42 contract expired. I was on a tip table at Dr. Andrews facility, getting my fucking hip drilled into so that I could have the bone marrow taken out and spun and injected back into my shoulder. So how does that work in terms of getting your team to approve certain treatments? Like they have a doctor who gets to say what procedures the players are allowed to have? I mean, you ultimately have the say, but at that point in time, that was something that wasn't being approved by like as a, as an actual recognizable form of therapy. So that wasn't a route that was being taken and being sanctioned by Major League Baseball, health insurance, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, like I paid for that out of my own pocket. Interesting. So yeah, Dr. James Andrews,
Starting point is 00:53:29 recurring guest of part of my take award-winning listener as well. When you got your appointment with him, you scheduled that on your own. How do you, how long does it take? Like what, what does the waiting list look like for Dr. Andrews? Could I just hit him up and be like, hey, can I get some PRP? You specifically, Mr. Commentor? Your odds are pretty good. Yes. Like your cousin? No, they're going to have to wait. Absolutely. There's no waiting list for a guy like you. There's no waiting list for a guy like me when I was playing. Professional athletes, yeah. Yeah, absolutely not. No, especially then when you're talking like, because let's be real, that's a feather in the cap. Should that shit work out? You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:57:16 point to play the smallest amount of games that they then have to pay them prorated for and then get a playoffs and get all the TV deals and everything. Is there any argument at this point in time that is pro owners? Can you even play devil's advocate that the players are in the wrong in any way? I start and stop with doesn't it suck that somebody in the position they're in also has to take a hit. Yeah. Like they're they're billionaires and they're and what they're going to lose is is a lot of money compared to what a player is going to lose and so on and so forth. Right. Shit trickles downhill but but that's about where it stops and I just always ask anybody like if if there was you or your boss position to take this hit who's going to survive who's in
Starting point is 00:58:06 a better spot to take this hit right you or your boss you or your boss. That's what this is about is the boss being in a better spot to take this hit right now and and I've said this from the very beginning and all starts and stops with a simple exercise that is executed every year in Major League Baseball. It's called arbitration. Yeah. Owners don't want to pay the player what he thinks he's worth. The payer wants more than what the ownership thinks they're worth. We can't agree. We go to arbitration. So about the language in this contract that that the owners feel empowers them to circle back to the negotiating table based on no fans being available to attend these games and the union saying no no that's that's not a thing. Well if that's where we're at let's figure that much
Starting point is 00:58:52 out and then from there we would be able to figure this entire mess out because it would not be about posturing. It would not be about throwing out an offer that's not going to be entertainable or has any sort of non starters. This is going to tell you yes owners you can circle back and renegotiate or no owners you signed on the dotted line 100% prorated. So that is what you owe from that point on. Let's move along. Well that boys that hasn't happened. So that's why we're having this back and forth back and forth and it's just a fucking pissing contest and it's it's horrible. The game is cannibalizing itself right now. I feel like the owners are just trying to put as many public offers out there as possible just so that they can have the optics of oh the players immediately
Starting point is 00:59:37 rejected another one. But the reality is they're not making any concessions really. They're just you are in fact they're it's more to their advantage to play fewer games as this drags on because they have to pay their employees you know not just the players but they have to pay you know the people that work in the stadium security all that stuff. That's less money out of their pockets. So the more they keep this dragged on making offers that are untenable from the players point of view and getting out in the press and having fucking Ken Rosenthal and Jeff Passant or Passant whatever his name is say like oh the players just rejected another offer. That puts more pressure on the players. But if you look at it from a big picture perspective
Starting point is 01:00:15 that's not really fair because they're not making any concessions. I mean come on man. Is it is it my job as an employee as well to help you the employer be able to like pay other employees. What the fuck right like that's a situation like this is the risk goes on the owner because they bought the team. The team is a fucking cash cow. They're making millions and millions and millions and millions of dollars with virtually no downside. This is a speed bump in the road for them and about the players. Think about the players. We have a finite time. We have a minute window of opportunity of earning power comparatively speaking to the billionaires who have a quite literally a lifetime and tell these fucker kick rocks.
Starting point is 01:01:03 They will be able to churn that moneymaker and that is not the case for a player. That is just not this that we're living in two completely different worlds and for the owners to be asking look you guys have heard it. We are privatizing gains and socializing losses. That is what the ownership stance is all about is no no. Hey players a.k.a. employees of mine. I'm going to take a hit and I've got to pay other employees. So can you guys as you know employees help me out pay these other employees. Right. It's it's it's the privatizing gains and socializing losses is the part that I think most people understand but there's still some people I see who don't fully get it that the owners will never do you think. Let me ask you this. Do you think that
Starting point is 01:01:51 this conversation would have a better chance of getting fixed if the owners were at all forthright about the money they make and lose every single year which they'll never do. We all know they will never do that. It is they keep it from each other like they don't want anyone to know because they know that they could cook the books however they want and they can basically keep making money. So do you think though let's say a perfect world that the owner said hey here's our entire operation. Here's the entire balance sheet. Come back to the table. Do you think the players would be open to that. That's a hell of a starting point Mr. Cat. That is a hell of a starting point. Wow. Imagine that. Imagine someone going. Hey you want to go into business together. Here's what I make.
Starting point is 01:02:32 Here's what it costs. Here's where I lose money. Here's what it all looks like. Imagine that. Yeah you know what that's a conversation I'd probably be inclined to have. Yeah. But what's happening is hey Mr. Cat want to go into business and you're going yeah how much do you shut up. What asking questions. Well I just want to know like how much are we going to shut up. What asking questions. Right. No I'm probably not going to go into business with you man. Right. What about this. We're a solutions oriented podcast. John Taffer taught us to do that. So what if the owners since they're expecting you to take a hit on the downside of things. What if the owner said you know what this isn't just going to be you know a rainy day situation. What if we give the players upside
Starting point is 01:03:13 and attendance goes way up next year. Our attendance goes up in certain games and in situations. We're going to cut the players an extra check and give you guys some buy in on that. Do you think that the players would have that conversation. Like like like a potential sliding scale in terms of yeah like if you're it would be fair right if they're asking you to take to share some of the burden then you should in theory also get some of the reward when you when the risk pays off right. Again a great starting point Mr. Commenter a wonderful starting point. Yes those are all ideas that would be wonderful to have out on the table. But starting at let's see the books. Well when when you throw us the Heisman when you're like nope sorry I can't do that. Right. Like
Starting point is 01:03:52 we know what's going on there. That is the blatant that is the reddest flag you could send up the flagpole. So is it not. So what's the if I'd ask you right now like you had to put your life on the line for amount of games you could say zero amount of games for this season. What would you say. Well zero is not an option purely because you guys have your head wrapped around this. You understand we're going to play games so that we can get the TV money but we're going to play the smallest amount possible because this is all about a business decision from the owner's perspective. So we're going to play the minimum available. So 50 games and that's going to be yes. And you know it's going to be because they won't have to pay the players as much but
Starting point is 01:04:36 they'll be able to rake in as much as possible. So and if 50 games what do you imagine happens with starting rotations. Do you think that as a former starting pitcher do you think there will be with that shortened stretch teams being like hey we can survive this with four four guys four arms and let's just throw our best guy out there as many times as possible because we know that we got to we got to make hay in these 50 games. So now let's have some fun because we're already coming to terms with it's a 50 game season. We're talking about essentially spring training dictating a world champion at the end of this right. So hopefully all these boys have been have been you know protecting their chickens feeding their chickens and if they have well then it's
Starting point is 01:05:22 going to be an absolute sprint and you are going to see like hitters sorry about your 2020 stats that's going to that's unfortunate right because they are going to they are going to suffer mightily because the pitchers are always the ones who have the timing advantage in the first part of the season. So starters yes like guys like Scherzer right the horses even guys like straws I mean there's names that can go on and on the dupras these guys are going to be they're going to let them eat they're going to let them eat but the other guys it's going to be sort of like that playoff push where I don't want to say the first sign of trouble right because there's going to be a group of guys that we're going to be able to go to here you understand how this is going to go yeah it's
Starting point is 01:06:04 going to be sort of an all hands on deck approach and like the bleeding it's going to be tourniquet central band-aid after band-aid after band-aid like the minute we can switch up arms and match up that's what's going to it's going to be in a weird way I would say the baseball is a sport that managing has slowly waned in terms of its importance and I'm not saying that they're not important but you know like a lot of these teams I mean like the Yankees are have a game plan and they're basically following it and Aaron Boone just kind of pulling the strings this will be interesting because this will probably be the hardest season for a manager and the most that managing will come into play game to game because like you said you know first sign of trouble we
Starting point is 01:06:48 got to win this game it's not going to be like a sunday in the middle of july where you're like hey we can let's get the fuck out of Cincinnati we can lose this game and recoup tomorrow teams are going to be going for it all the time oh yeah yeah pft the bullpins baby the bullpins yeah that's right the business is it going to be 50 man roster I heard is it going to be that uh 50 and then sliding so like 50 down to 35 or I believe 50 maybe down to 40 down to 30 to 25 like in a like in a week or so like over the weeks okay that's too that's to you know try to get some sort of resemblance of a normal situation so that will be just you can throw any bullpen arm out there for yes these games are going to take forever yeah well oh my god this is actually like the word
Starting point is 01:07:36 Dallas these games are going to take like six hours should we bet overs or unders just to still it down to that under this is what he's saying unders yes unders but remember you've got the three batter minimum this year yeah guys you know they're not going to be so to your point about it taking forever true that's why I said that's why I said the minute that they can match up the minute that they can get their arms switched up they will be because you've got that three batter minimum to factor in have they have do you think they'll uh I saw some scuttlebutt about possibly not having uh you know possibly having DH across the board is that still on the table for just absolutely yes yes and and look man just by the way that the the game is trending
Starting point is 01:08:14 warm up to that idea as somebody who is as pure of a purist as I think I could possibly be I love the idea of being a a ball player and being a pitcher means you've got to be a ball player build your position know where you got to go be serviceable with a bat in your hand per game situation but I I always use Adam Wainwright as an example I don't want to miss out if I'm a Cardinals fan I don't want to miss out on a on a season late in Adam Wainwright's storied career because he blew his Achilles you know run out of the box like what the fuck come on and and no offenses are even thinking in that fashion they're not trying to engineer runs in that manner so let's let's give that other guy on the squad let's give him some some more meaning let's give him
Starting point is 01:08:56 some more responsibility and let him play because that's what the fans there to see their seed that they want to see balls fly out of the yard right yeah and it's anybody else on that roster aside from Wainwright's probably a better option it's gonna be a crazy finish all right so Dallas you said that you uh you you think you gotta be a ball player you have zero hits zero hits right oh yeah American League just so you know I'm looking no you you did have played appearances yeah I had played appearance you had zero hits yeah hey do you do you see who my first career played appearances were against no uh yeah probably the greatest left-handed pitcher of my generation Clayton Kershaw oh sorry excuse got the button down got the button down sorry about it you know
Starting point is 01:09:38 what if I'm like a lefty that gets the shift put on me all the time I'm spending these three months these four months however long it takes to get back just working on bunting just bunting every single day taking reps that way you can probably lay down what a thousand bucks in a day and not feel any more sore the next day that's exact just just worked that third baseline I've been telling so I've been telling Oli Matt Olson the first baseman for the Oakland A's who he's got that club in the bag he'll he'll lay a blunt down third base every every now and then that's what I was telling him bro you need to shit can BP and you need to just be wearing out the left side like just playing pepper all day well you hit 400 you want to hit 400 in the 60 game this 50 game season that's how
Starting point is 01:10:18 you hit 400 bro you you got out from Randy Wells one of my favorite Cubs pitcher no-name Cubs pitchers ever he was I there was a summer where I convinced myself Randy Wells had the stuff he got you out I'm looking at right now that was that was the game in Chicago right yes yes Randy Wells I fucking love that guy he's just like if you look like how'd that game turn out he looked like a totally like you know guy you could see literally having a beer in Wrigleyville and then he was pitching and there was you know when you when your team's doing bad and you just convince yourself like random guys you're like yo that guy could be good Randy Wells was that guy for me that game the Cubs lost no actually the Cubs won yeah suck it oh man all right last last thing I want to
Starting point is 01:11:02 talk about real quick the Yankees this letter all I saw online was the John Boy was trending and I assume that that means the Yankees also cheated I was moving this weekend so I didn't fully I just deduced from that so there's a letter yeah there's a letter explain what we know is there's a letter and it's about to be unsealed yes so explain what's going on Dallas yeah well there was there was a letter from the commissioner's office between the Astros between the Yankees uh I'm trying to think of the other club uh the Red Sox excuse me um and those were all sealed right just to just between those two people those two parties those four parties those now six parties with the Yankees and the commissions up and people want to know what's in them people
Starting point is 01:11:47 want to know what these are about and the Yankees are saying there's there's nothing here there's nothing here but at the at the same time they're saying there's nothing here but we don't want it open because it could be extremely damaging to our reputation don't open it it's nothing don't open it nothing to see here but if you were to actually see it she could hit the fan so we don't want you to there's pretty much nothing on the letter they just would rather not you read it right that's pretty normal stuff right um we've all been there and yeah I was doing some reading on it it was it's based around a lawsuit from these two guys that were playing daily fantasy sports and they were pissed off because they thought that they got swindled out of their money very like a
Starting point is 01:12:28 gambler exactly like like a fantasy baseball player scorned that is that is some shit coming down the pipeline your way so they took it all the way to like I think the second they appealed it and it got overturned on appeal or something and so now the Yankees letters caught up so my question is is this was this actually just one letter that was sent from major league baseball to the Yankees like it was one piece of paper and that's the only copy that exists what is a sealed letter I believe I believe in each one of these instances if if you believe the holy grail is the sealed letter and that that was it that was the only form of communication I believe you are wrong I believe there had to have been multiple correspondence relaying you know to what degree
Starting point is 01:13:14 like maybe even sort of finding out is is this okay is what we're doing is this or or you know hey it's been rumored that you're doing x y and z and so then the response is no no we're only doing this we're only and it's like oh okay well then well then this final letter is like all right this is what we know what's going on here this is what we have like you know I think it has to be something to that effect and then now you're here in you know you've got people that are probably pointing fingers and that's why the idea of it being a redacted document is what it is because I can't have this name out there that's why the reputation thing is what it is because you've seen the videos of the superstars in the Yankees dug out you know eyeballing pieces of paper and stuff and
Starting point is 01:14:06 you can say what it is you might have an opinion that it's something else but but those are all things that get that you know get that rumor mill churning now that this comes out and the Yankees are like nothing to see here but please god if you open it just set it on fire don't read it I I just love anytime the word redacted gets involved in conversation it makes it sound like a fucking like a spy novel wait so so so Dallas you're saying to me that um all this stuff that the Yankee fans have been throwing out there about how the astro cheated him out of a world series they're looking pretty stupid today uh you know there was there was conversation about bite your tongue yeah just hold on I remember Jared telling me that and Jared Kravitz and
Starting point is 01:14:51 and and I got nervous I was like shit the cubs do something and he was like I don't know anything but just don't if you're a fan and you're getting in front of this just be careful because it could all come back at you and again not not you know we're not pointing any sorts of fingers here um and and if you know anything about what just happened you know with with Alex Cora and the interview that he just did you know as he said like this wasn't a one-man operation or a two-man operation here and that's not throwing anybody under the bus but that's just that's doing what I think he has the right to do which is say look man if you want to just come down on me that's fine but know this you you could have several other landing spots to come down on because it wasn't
Starting point is 01:15:36 just me be careful what rocks you turn over you might not like what you find underneath I like that you know I'm saying I said something about how the solution should just be pay all the players 100% of the money except for the Astros and pay them zero dollars and that would be a good compromise I think most people would agree on and then I started to catch all these strays the next day online because people assumed that because I tweeted that that I must be a Yankees fan so Yankees fans are having their chickens are about to come home to roost on this I guess the most important question though what do we do like I've been given out a lot of pinstripes should I the Yankees should just not be allowed to wear pinstripes I don't know I'm I'm nervous all these
Starting point is 01:16:14 guys that I've been giving it to like what am I doing now yeah it's a season's worth of road grays that's what it's for a season's worth of road grays like you get if you are if you are in a position to be handing out pinstripes I would I would hold those a little closer to the vest mr cat well yeah that is big cat also implicated for handing out pinstripes to players that didn't earn them yeah no this is bad it's a ripple effect this is this is bad I'm actually gonna try to find out uh who is the worst on the 2017 Yankees and he just gets all the pinstripes so he just wears like very obviously he's got like a million pinstripes they're really thin he's wearing a pinstripe suit everywhere he goes yeah he needs to go with the bur with the burberry plaid print
Starting point is 01:16:55 just all the stripes any kind of stripe yes that would be great though if they just remove the pinstripes from the Yankees uniforms entirely for you but just gave it to one guy well I actually think that only the team that wins the world series should be allowed to wear pinstripes next year you really got to earn that shit okay that's that's yes that is definitively earning your stripes all right uh I'm at holiday seems like well he wasn't on the Brett Gardner hit 264 and he is the ultimate pinstripe guy anyway so we'll just let him have them all for one season and and and he also Brett Gardner has to shave pinstripes into his bald head yes yes or just tattooed yes like tiger stripes yeah yeah you yeah you want to you want to be real about these pinstripes yeah
Starting point is 01:17:37 some of them earn them some of them burn them yeah there we burn them in there you can't take away a tattoo um I have one last question for you uh your home run call your signature home run call all aboard next stop pound town uh first of all that's a sweet call but I had some questions about it so first of all is the pound is it the pound town express is it a train that takes you to pound town so so I've had to explain this to several um you know maybe older fans and uh whoa it's it's uh it's what pound town is calling us old is no no no no no it's um because they they had some other crazy thoughts about it which which really I was shocked to hear that they had that they had these stances on it you're talking about fucking but but I was appalled so I had to explain it no
Starting point is 01:18:24 pound town is just that little area that resides right beyond the fence right that's where we're going that's where that ball is going that's where we're going okay so just a home run in general the ball lands in pound town that's right okay okay nothing to do with sex okay it's a low count no god this is a excuse me sir this is a ball game um uh my last last question do you does Nate Diaz know that you call yourself the 209 mayor um I would believe so I don't it's public information I don't I don't think so I think you wouldn't be so happy if you if you found out that you were walking around calling yourself the mayor 209 no it's it's a brotherhood it's a brother let me just tell you this mr cat they don't just uh speaking of stripes they don't just hand
Starting point is 01:19:09 out these stripes oh any whoa Dallas is now showing us his abs but it happens to have a 209 tattoo but yeah it was the abs you were showing us the abs what the fuck are you doing are you doing p90x no what no what do you mean I'm just sitting here how do you have abs like that I've never seen a guy with a beard that length have any sort of muscle definition what are you doing what are you doing what are you doing for work right Brandon McCarthy calls me prison jacked yeah what are you doing what if you what's your regiment I'm a dad bro that's not that's your dad bud now you have an eight pack you're a jerk tell us what you're doing I think you are doing steroids I think this is Dallas Braden 2.0 no see look look bft there you go you got the uh there's
Starting point is 01:19:51 the there's the cherry right there and you see the thing is I don't I don't understand how you're so in shape but you suck at the peloton it's because I'm it's because I would like I said I weigh a fucking 75 pounds now like I can't you know it takes like two it takes two of me on one pedal to get it all the way around okay fine all right well you look good it was great talking to you hopefully we see you soon hopefully we have baseball and that fucking hurt my feelings what can you can you fact that Randy Wells got you out no oh what the Randy Wells thing should hurt your feeling listen that was a very aggressive suck it pellet well I'm I'm jealous very I'm very angry when talking about pellets I'm very attacks everyone I'm obviously upset that you have like
Starting point is 01:20:31 an eight pack and are in really good shape so I have to cut you down I am extremely I tell you what I'm extremely bitter I legitimately look at this leaderboard sometimes and I'm just like female 20 kicking my ass female 40 shitting all over me male 57 shitting all and I'm like what what happened what went wrong all their bikes are miscalibrated that's what you have to tell yourself you gotta you gotta eight pack so you're good dude miscalibrated so that's a thing and guess what none of them through no hitter fuck that makes all of us nobody's perfect though you threw a new no hitter thank you Dallas Brady we appreciate listen to him on starting nine he's the best thank you man that interview with Dallas Brady was brought to you by our great
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Starting point is 01:22:42 some segments in a quick mount rush more send you on your way on this beautiful Monday we're going to mount flush more today mount flush more yes a mount flush more of a previous mount rush more actually Hank find our old mount rush more real quick actually I'll find it go ahead so segments first before we do that Hank tell us this story we have a hurt or injured for a video game player we're just a video game podcast we're Dungeons and Dragons and a video game podcast how awesome would it be though we were talking about this the other day if after this quarantine's over all the local comic book shops and like little fantasy shops that they have in every every strip mall and mall around America they do Dungeons and Dragons nights like once a week where people can
Starting point is 01:23:28 come and play what if just a shitload of award-winning listeners start showing up we're trying to grow the game here oh shit we all right go ahead Hank so I don't exactly know which pro league this is for but it was submitted like one of these guys uh it's like exactly how a sports team would like show announce their starting lineup whatever they said uh this guy will be starting in place of alex 1935 because he's out with a thumb injury and then the kid wrote like the whole he wrote a he posted screenshot of his notes app and he said this is absolutely the last thing I ever wanted to do I tried everything I could do to play through it the last thing I wanted to do was let my team down after the match I took the decision it was the best thing to do for the team I just couldn't
Starting point is 01:24:07 play my game I'll be back as soon as I can I won't let this stop me from achieving my goal thanks to team Roker for all your support so he's got pretty much a broken thumb he's got a thumb injury so he can't play he tried to play through he gutted it out hurt her injury it's an is that an upper body injury I guess it depends how long your arms I think that's an injury like that's that's no different than an ACL tear if you're a gamer your thumb is your most important part I've had I've had moments like I uh I burned my pinky and I was like it's the lame that I thought this was like uh oh like is this going to affect me at all so did he say is I'm no one is this a bone injury is it a ligament injury I just due to a thumb injury just thumb he's got a thumb
Starting point is 01:24:45 interesting it also means that you can't jack off which is that's very important to a professional gamer interesting so what happens what do you mean it's just a it's just like out is there an IR no I don't know what happened subbed out and then when he's health like any team when you get injured you come back when you're healthy he's going to get Wally Pip though I guarantee you this guy if you can't gut it through a thumb injury uh I know it's serious but I mean this seems to me like a situation where if you can't pretend that you're not hurt you're going to get your job taken yes it's a cutthroat business yes um all right so I just looked up our first Mount Rushmore of uh things that chicks dig it was before it's so long ago it was it was before we
Starting point is 01:25:27 did the actual graphic but here were some of the things we threw out there blankets cheeks love blankets cuddling chicks love guys that smoke and wear too much cologne uh chicks love boats and the dog snap chat filter yep so that's it all right so now we're going to do things chicks uh Mount Rushmore things chicks dig okay Hank you're first in PFT than me is that their order Billy I don't trust Billy okay do honorable mention Billy uh my first one that's that's a protection of yourself Billy that yeah we don't want the graphic going out with your list on it right because we're protecting you from getting roasted right so you're just going to have your list of things that you throw out there okay uh things chicks don't dig uh not getting texted back in a prompt amount of
Starting point is 01:26:13 time yeah are any of you psychos the kind of people that have the the red absolutely it says like what time you open up that text no you're not no no I I do not but I know people and I'm always appreciative that people have that but I would never have yeah I mean I love when people have it because you can tell like oh they read that you're it's crazy you're a certified psycho yes you have that on this yes uh you always got to leave a little window for lying my first one was going to be uh things that chicks did don't dig right mouth wash more things the chicks did okay when a guy is under five foot eight like short that's that's like the cutoff is under five foot eight they hate that yeah I've never saw a funny joke on twitter the other day good okay big cat you're up
Starting point is 01:26:54 okay what was it no he it was like why why how come girls and guys that are both five nine not the same height and they the joke was that uh because the girls that are five nine aren't lying that's yeah I like that the first eight times I saw that joke that's really good all right I can't believe I have this one first on the board uh coming too quickly chicks do not like that for them no for a guy they don't like when guys come too quickly that's big time no no um or spin zone they could be like yeah I'm really good I guess yeah you're yeah yeah right like you're you're so hot yeah you're so hot uh and then second one also a big one is uh not noticing new haircut yeah huge and I can never tell well to be fair like it's impossible
Starting point is 01:27:40 to tell impossible if you have long hair like no the only people that ever notice if I get a trim and get like the little split ends take taking off the end of this it's always girls that notice that guys will never notice it nor do I expect them to I don't even notice it afterwards yeah so that one uh yeah that one you gotta you gotta really like you gotta set a calendar like if you know that there's gonna be a haircut being taken taking place you gotta set a reminder to say something oh because I could be told there's a haircut being taken place and then that afternoon still fuck it up a little life hack if you just say oh is there something different about your hair even when there's nothing different they'll just think oh he thinks that my hair looks great today
Starting point is 01:28:16 yes yes your hair smells good chicks love that especially when you sniff it too and you don't know them Joe Biden uh so you take two yeah I did I did too all right my second one too quickly in hair not noticing haircuts my second one is going to be the word moist I accidentally said a lot of people don't like that but yeah I think it's mostly in my experience yeah I've never met a guy who's like you know what words I hate hear the words that I know that I hate and then list them off I think I don't hate well I don't think do I hate any words yeah I don't think I hate racism do you hate that I like the word because it makes it easy to identify no I want to end it yeah but you wouldn't know but I want to end the word I want to end the word so usually you're fine with racism
Starting point is 01:28:58 existing no I want to have to say the racism I want to end the word because everything behind it pro racism no everything behind it want to end it moist moist okay Billy likes the word moist uh bio okay uh and then Saturdays parentheses because they're for the boys yeah why don't we get a day yeah finally yeah uh remember when that remember when Erica made uh Monday through Friday's or for the girls like yeah uh you could have those I agree yeah uh late late afternoons on Sundays when you have to go back to work on Monday um Hank bio though yeah no girls hate that I think guys do too yeah it doesn't make any less true no but guys are like you've been around guys that are all sweaty I think I think specifically like when a guy smells like a true guy like it's the
Starting point is 01:29:50 ball sweat smell girls do not like that and the guys can get bio just from like not like you can just exist for a couple days and just get bio well yeah it's called not showering right right but that just exists yeah like I didn't do anything to observe this bio I just didn't shower and played video games for 24 hours uh all right my third one is going to be when you watch a show before them a show that you are watching together and disgusting together as it comes out or if you're binging your show together and you get one ahead of them they hate that yep that's a good one um all right my last two uh dipping girls hate dipping hate it hate it hate it um you could throw cigars in there too I feel like they don't like cigars either uh
Starting point is 01:30:40 and then this is a tricky one it's even implying that someone they're in a fight with could have a good point yep so it could be a boss it could be a co-worker could be a friend but even being like hey think about it this way uh well if you think about it that's a big mistake your mom's just saying she would love a grandchild yeah right do not do not which is fair because I don't I also don't like that um okay pft your last pick okay my last pick is going to be uh when guys that make lists telling them what they like um well we're making one that they what they don't yeah I know so they'll love this list but I'm just saying yeah they don't like if we were to make a list telling them what they should like mansplaining uh huh okay uh when you try and watch a show that they like and you
Starting point is 01:31:32 kind of roll your eyes and laugh at how ridiculous it might be outer banks you can see outer banks outer banks the bachelor white white line speaking of the outer banks they had did you see the huge news no breaking moves tell me tell me outer banks dude John B Sarah Cameron dating in real life yes fuck yes that is so hot that's awesome oh fuck yes all right I need all the deets on that should I should I text it's official okay go comment be like hell yeah I'm going to ship you guys what he's even there I would die for him how would you find their names how would you know what they chase something chase chase stokes of course his fucking name is chase he's serious yes it is chase stokes his name is chase literally translates to
Starting point is 01:32:19 cats out of the bag adrenaline I'm so happy for you guys I'm doing it right now I'm born to get stoked oh Ria's already I see Ria's Ria's my heart is about to burst all right I'm falling chase stokes through Seeker this guy is this is something else all right uh and her name is Maddie in real life I feel like these chase people were just drawn up in a lab to appeal to women age 15 to 25 chase and Maddie is like if you're thinking about going to the party and chasing Maddie or there you probably aren't invited that's just a fact I don't think would you want to be invited to a party with a surplus of chases yes they're only yes I know what there can only be one chase of Maddie you're so wrong there's only one chase out of that's a
Starting point is 01:33:10 party that's a movie life that is the night that is a movie yeah I would get annoyed if there were too many chases no die give me all the party if you're like yo we got some we got like six chases four Maddie's roll through whenever I would I'd be the first one there this place with like Michael Scott with the potato salad showing up seven hours early I mean like let's party Scott Zola yeah all right uh Billy oh a couple honorable mentions that I had as well um talking about your fantasy team not really a big thing um not driving mid-sized sedans yep because they fucking love pushing a Jetta call trying to explain the stupid drama going on and for your sports podcast that usually that this is like a quick way to watch their attention just
Starting point is 01:33:52 treat out the window oh being emotionally unavailable yeah when one word answers yeah one word text replies uh-huh right yeah when uh when their friend is showing more cleavage than they are yeah yeah not liking their instagram picture quickly enough asking why are they mad yeah why being crazy oh don't ever say the c word oh Jesus Christ uh when you accidentally like your ex-girlfriends and scram posts acts by accident by accident uh when when the DVR cuts out before the end of top chef oh it's a pretty specific one that's you don't know who's packing their knives that sucks that actually does really so it does cliff hangers uh Billy what do you have when you're playing video games and they ask you to get off and you say you're working
Starting point is 01:34:43 yeah I could imagine that okay anything else uh when you join a blood cult when you when you when you can't spend time with them because you're donating blood all the time when you already have two frogs and are very much considering getting a third larger frog yeah they hate that when you try to give yourself catch scratch fever chicks being my mom okay yeah yeah right we can't have more frogs in this house when you don't take out the trash when you want to work out and they can't spot you and they say can I work out with you I was like no you can't spot me Billy's Billy's Billy's number one when you can't mass murder in the backyard of like five raccoons no they like that because they're the ones saying go kill the raccoons they scare me
Starting point is 01:35:24 Billy's number one thing the chicks don't like is when you forget Mother's Day when wasn't it yeah you forgot it oh Billy all right it's not too late though as long as you make up Mother's Day before Father's Day happens I think you're in the clear yeah that is yeah that's the deadline oh what else it's all right it's going to have to push it yeah don't we don't want to push you what you got up there uh when they're walking past you as you're peeing in traffic in a totally real story yeah mm-hmm yep when you drink too much pre-workout yep totally and it's just super aggressive don't dig it and you're like what's wrong peeing on the seat was obvious one oh yeah leaving the seat leaving the seat uh let's do this by the way in in full fairness
Starting point is 01:36:07 let's have a special guys on chicks on wednesday everyone put in things that uh guys hate that girls do yeah so tell us what I can't think you do that you think that like I can't believe guys hate this when you respect them too much chicks only chicks only they get to basically do this mount flush more back to us so put in put put that and then we'll read that and we'll also comment and tell you why you're wrong six four six six four six seven six two six three three two that'll be fun real only do the exact mount flush more just back at us things that you do the guys hate uh billy one last question girls really hate quarantine stashes mm okay yeah I wouldn't you're specifically right um all right let's uh we'll see everyone's we've got a bunch of really
Starting point is 01:36:57 big guests coming up we also have Tuesday tune in we're gonna go dugs at three stool streams pft I think pft's gonna win pft's going to win ping pong against hang although it's kind of good for my brand if I keep losing and finding more and more heartbreaking ways to lose I don't think you can get more heartbreaking than the three one well especially followed by a fucking four nothing sweep yeah no you can't yeah no you can't go anywhere yeah so we got to climb back up the mountain okay and I'm basically the guy who's now predicting the world's gonna end I'm gonna keep predicting the pft's gonna win well here's the thing I'm fucking do I'm doing I'm not bad at ping pong Hank just got lucky last time because I gave him a point because of bad at math yeah
Starting point is 01:37:37 all right see you Wednesday love you guys oh Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh H-H-H-H . Take on me, take on me, take on me, take on me

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