Pardon My Take - Dan Hurley, NBA Playoffs With Kirk Goldsberry, The Commanders Have A New Owner And Fyre Fest Of The Week

Episode Date: April 14, 2023

The Commanders officially have a new owner, officially this time (00:00:00-00:08:15). We talk Wednesday's play in games and how DeMar Derozan's daughter stole the show and the game from the Raptors. The Thunder and young and fun and Pelicans fans have every right to be pissed at Zion (00:08:15-00:32:40). UConn Head Coach Dan Hurley joins us in studio to talk about winning the title, has he gone soft, and tons more (00:32:40-00:59:33). Kirk Goldsberry joins us to talk NBA Playoffs, mismatches, and who he has going to the Finals (00:59:33-01:38:02). We finish with Fyre Fest of the week and the lottery ball (01:38:02-02:06:09).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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called 1-800-Gambler. Okay, let's go. Welcome to part in my take. Today is Friday, April 14th and PFT for the, I don't know, this is probably like the six or seven time. The floor is yours. Yeah. I mean, we've talked about Dan Snyder a lot on this show and about the sale a lot. I don't know. I actually don't know if I have that much to add besides what I've already said over the course of the last six years. What happened? What changed your selling shirts? Tell the people what happened. I'm going to start right now. This is by Dan and it's major, it's major tutty, throwing Dan Snyder out of a stupid fucking case. Just because you got excited the other six or seven

times doesn't mean you can't get more excited this time. Well, okay. Change. So I'm pumped. What did change Hank? Good question. News came out this morning that I guess Sportico reported it according to a source close to the sale. Josh Harris, the owner of Max's 76ers and the New Jersey Devils is actually going to purchase the team for $6 billion. Congrats to Dan Snyder for making $5.2 billion being a piece of shit. So say what you want about him, but he made a fuckload of money. I hope he goes off fucks off to England and dies. But today was announced that Josh Harris, excuse me, he dies in jail. First he gets arrested. Yeah, he dies in British prison where they don't have dentists. No, absolutely not. The worst dentist on earth. Well, they don't

have dentists outside of jail either in Britain. Yeah, that's true. So I hope that he dies with shitty teeth and a gum infection. And I think, I think it's a done deal from everything that I've heard so far. There's a competing bid allegedly from Stephen A., the Canadian billionaire, but it's going to be, it's Josh Harris. It was announced today. It's Josh Harris. He's going to take over the team. So I'm very happy, but there's a small part of me, very small part of me that's like the dog that caught the car. Yeah. It's like, now that the bad man's gone, what am I, what am I going to have to blame all my failures on as a sportsman? Yeah, you can't complain about the commanders for at least five years ish. And I, so Hank is,

is nodding along. I feel like you're, you're doing, are we, what happens when it officially becomes official? No, this is when it does it. I'll talk for Hank. We're going to do this again. We're going to do this again in how long? Listen, I didn't, I didn't even bring it up. Okay. So I, you're wearing the shirt. You're, you're doing, I can't believe this is my life tweet. They're great shirts, by the way. Go check them out. They are great shirts. I was trying to be respectful. You were, I saw you doing videos and stuff in the hallway. I was like, it's another big day. I didn't do, people just came up to me with the camera. So they asked me what I thought. I told them, I've already celebrated Dan being gone. He's gone. It's

happening. Now the only major hurdle that we have to clear is the, the owner's vote, which is going to take place in May, but he's already an owner kind of an NFL team. He's a part owner of the Steelers. They're going to vote him in. Okay. It's, this is a done deal and it's going to happen and everything's going to be good. And maybe we'll get more than two playoff wins in the next 25 years. What's up Billy? Is it really a done deal? Have they secured the funding to buy the team? Yes. Josh Harris's funding was, was secured. It's secured with the, if this doesn't go through, I'm going to kill myself. Money is expensive right now. Billy, I'm, yeah, I am buying a house right now. So I'm familiar with

how much money is expensive. I'm pretty sure Josh Harris is good for. How expensive is money? Money is like 7% expensive. Okay. So if you buy a thousand dollars, you have to, yeah, you have to pay, you have to pay 1070. What? You said 7%. Yeah. 1070. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. It's, it's a done, it's expensive. Listen, it's a done deal. We're moving forward. Congrats. I thank you Hank. I'm looking forward to being able to root with like my entire heart and soul for a team because it's been a big stain on, you know, it's been the back of your mind anytime the team's good. You're like, I love, I love this team. I love watching them every Sunday, but then at the end of the day, you know that something's about to get fucked up worse than

it was fucked up ever before. So we're going to start playing the parade. We're going to have a parade in DC. Okay. Nice. I'm very excited about it. So I, so I'm not as pumped and over the top as I have been in the past because like you said, I have, we have talked about this like five times. Well, Snyder has, has basically like teased it so many times that it's like, it's kind of robbed you of the, it almost would have been better if he just all of a sudden overnight just was selling the team. They'd be like the greatest celebration ever. It's been this long drawn celebration. Yeah. Well, the, the big one was back and I think it was November. Yeah. When the news first broke at that point, then it was like, okay, that's the big celebration that I've

got this. I'm a little bit more subdued, but I'm still fucking pumped that this guy's going to I remain happy for you. Thank you. Hank, I can't say the same. No, he's not. All I'm saying is be careful what you wish for NFL because you have a woke and a sleeping giant in Washington DC. Yes. The shirts are great. They are. You're happy for him? Yeah. Not really. I just, you can only be happy for someone so many times. You know what? You know what? Someone gets pregnant. You're like, congratulations, but then it's not like, Hey, I'm pregnant again, three months later and three months later. If it's like, you get one congratulations. You know what? Hank, because Josh Harris is also the Sixer's owner. I have no choice but to root with Max

for the Sixers against the, against the Celtics and playoffs. But he's not even going to be the owner by that point. No, he's not selling the Sixer. Oh, you're of the, yeah, he's not. I don't care. I'm such a Josh Harris fan right now that he could, he could do anything. He's owner and waiting. Yeah. Owner and waiting. I like that. Yeah. So just why don't you check yourself? All right. That's fine. I'm excited to get a good rivalry going with Hank. It's been a while. I feel like it's always, we're always, no, I'm just, Hank's fighting like a six-sided war at all times. Yeah. Okay. Well, congratulations. Again, go buy a shirt. What else we want to talk about? The little play-in game. Yeah. So DR

DeRozan stole the story of the play-in game on Wednesday night. She single-handedly stopped the Toronto Raptors. My Bulls are advancing to Friday night, which is always fun when you win a play-in game and then you get to go to play another play-in game. But there was, so for people who didn't watch the game, the Bulls were down pretty much the entire game. DR DeRozan's, DeMar DeRozan's like eight-year-old daughter, she was sitting underneath the, what in the first half was the Chicago Bulls hoop. In the second half, obviously the Raptors were shooting on it. She was screaming so loud before every free throw that the Raptors took in a dead silent arena. The Raptors went 18 for 36 from free throw, from the free throw line, ended up losing the game by

what four? It was, she won that game for the Bulls. I mean, Zach Levine was also fantastic, which is nice to see him like step up in that moment. But DR DeRozan's statue for her. Yeah, she's great. She's way better than Riley Curry. Yes. For ranking NBA daughters. I got her 1A in my daughter draft. I think that she was, she was great, but maybe the best part of the night was the time that she didn't scream. Yeah. At the end. So there were three. Faked them out. There were three foul shots at the end, right? Yes. Siakam, which was kind of a bullshit call anyway, but yeah. Yeah. So Siakam got to the line and then she faked out. She didn't scream, was it the second one? Yeah. That she didn't scream on it and everybody was waiting for her to yell.

Now, I think she did a great job absolutely build the statue. Great daughter. However, I'm a little bit upset at the March Rosen because he's not going to let her come to the game on Friday because it's a school day. Sports is way more important than school if you're a kid. It's also like she's, she's six man of the year. She should, she should, she should be for every single, all I want now, because I'm very, I'm a realist about the Bulls. They're not very good. They have a couple good players, but as a collective, they're not very good. But could you imagine her in the first round against the Bucks and Yanis in his 15 second free like she might lose her voice, but she would go, she'd go toe to toe with him. That would be her legacy again. Yeah. Trying to,

trying to scream for 15 seconds nonstop. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's, it was very cool to see her actually like get into the heads of opponents. She totally did. But here's the problem. There's going to be some copycats. Yeah. And it's not going to be the same. She has like a unique frequency in her voice that makes people freak out. It's not only that. It's such a unique situation because one, she's the daughter of DeMar DeRosin. Two, she grew up in Toronto where DeMar played the majority of his career. So she knows everyone in that arena. And three, like there is the NBA now you can get kicked out for anything. Kyrie and Russell Westbrook have taught us that. I don't think you can kick out a player's daughter. She is like, if a guy is just sitting

there doing that, I think that a player probably complains and they get kicked out or have to shut them up. I think she's a secret weapon that no other team can employ. Yeah. The rest of the fans couldn't go down and say shit to her cause she's a little girl. Right. And she, and she obviously knows everyone in Toronto. Like that was the other part is the whole entire, you know, the, the, the building staff, the security, they probably know her personally. Yep. So it was the perfect storm for DeRosin to completely stop the Toronto Raptors. I would love to see what would happen with this in Philly. Do you think that Philly fans would start throwing a max lookalike would punch her in the face? They'd start to throw hot dogs at her. Somebody go down there and

throw up on her. Yeah. A max lookalike would start beating up a little girl. This is gross. This is disgusting. Listen, just accept it. I think that Philly should be proud of that. For punching little girls? You, you don't think like a lot of guys would be like that. We stop, we won that game. I would be pissed. Yeah. I wouldn't, I definitely wouldn't punch her, but I would be mad. No, you'd be mad. Definitely not. But that's the beauty of it. You can't get mad at a daughter of a player and like she needs to be. Yeah. Fuck school. Get her to Miami. It's way more important. Get her to Miami. She's eight years old. What do you learn in eighth grade anyways? Do you remember a subtle thing? That's not eighth grade. Oh, eight years old. Yeah. Okay.

So that's third grade. Third grade. She's very precocious. You're probably graduating basic addition and subtraction and moving on to like basic multiplication, I would guess. Yeah. You're writing like five letter words maybe. States and capitals. Yeah. Yeah. It's a war zone. Oh, mystery powders. You're doing like science for the first time. Oh, what better way to learn states and capitals and go to the capital of Florida, Miami. Good point. Yeah. You could get a better education. Yeah. Yeah. Like, come on, let's go. Education work for us. Yeah. It was, it was awesome though. The Bulls. I, and Pat Bev, maybe he is, it's, it's between him and Trey Young. Trey Young's three and 0 in playing games. So this is a legacy game for Pat Bev. Pat

Bev was awesome. He'd be three and 0 if he wins. Pat Bev always just manages to show up at the end of every playing game and do something fucking crazy. Yeah. Just insane. He's so much fun to watch. And Caruso was awesome too. And it was nice. It was nice seeing Zach Levine. Like, because Hank doesn't really know this. Max, you kind of, well, you know this because of Ben Simmons, but like having a player that you pay a lot of money to that you want to step up in the big moments when they don't, it gets very frustrating when they do. It's like, huh, that was nice. Yeah. Or maybe at least have the player that you pay a bunch of money to step on the court during the game. Yeah, that'd be nice because take a shot. Because Zion was in pregame warm-ups. Zion Williamson,

he's out because he's not feeling like Zion yet. He's healthy, but he's not feeling 100%. He was dunking. He was doing like windmill. Yeah. Windmill dunks in pregame. He did look a little bit on the bigger side, but that's just Zion. That's Zion being Zion. This would drive me in fucking sane. Whose idea was it to let Zion participate in the pregame dunk line? Oh my God. I, like, I would be so furious for a Republican fan watching that and then watching my team lose to the young, do you know the thunder or the, the second youngest team in NBA history? Yeah. It's crazy. They're, they, the thunder or what, like, you know how we saying on Wednesday, the playing game is kind of stupid because these teams won't go anywhere, but you can switch it

if it's a young team. The thunder, like that's reps. They're building a winning culture because it was amazing to see Josh Giddy and Shay Gilgis and, and Lou Dort, who are all under 24 years old, like dominate that game and make big shot after big shot. And Zion is just sitting on the bench doing dunks pregame, not, not playing. Yeah. Pit, who made the NCAA tournament has an average starting lineup age older than the thunder. That's crazy. They are, they are very, very fun and very young. And like if you, like this is the type, like they shouldn't even be in this spot and they are in their, and their lottery pick last year isn't playing. I think just getting to the playoff, if you play in a playoff series, if you're the thunder, that's good experience. I want to see

it. So yeah, they're getting homegrown back and they have probably a high first rounder, right? They have like a million. I would imagine they're picking like 11 or 12 in the draft and then they have four first round picks in 2024. It's crazy. So they, they've got assets. All right. So the thunder and I think it, it goes on for the future. All right. So they have the Clippers pick this year, their own pick this year, the, the wizard second rounder. I won't do second rounders next year. They have their own Utah's Clippers, Houston's. So yeah. And then in 2025, they have their own Houston or the Clippers, Miami's, Philadelphia's, like they, every year they're going to be, they have like five picks in the first round. They're a fun team. They are what

the Pelicans thought they were going to be because the Pelicans with Zion and Brandon Ingram, like Herb Jones, and it was going to be like, Oh, this young up and coming team in the west, the thunder kind of stole their thunder. They did. And I, there were some people out there that were saying that our good friend, Minci, being stuck up in the nosebleeds in this section. If Minci had been down beneath the basket, like DR to Rosen, I think this game goes a whole lot differently. Yeah. I'd agree. I'd agree. So it was, um, that was a fun game. That was an exciting game. That was a play. I think I'm just going to start grading every play in game. I'm going to make a judgment on the play in tournament as a whole, just based on game to game. Okay. So like

on Tuesday night, it was the worst idea that David, or Adam Silver ever, I almost called him David Silver. Adam Silver ever came up with on Wednesday night. It's pure genius. The league is back. Yeah. So Friday we'll decide the, the, the, the future of the play in tournament, according to myself, is all going to come down to Friday night. It's a big, big night. Let's go Wolves. Yeah. All right. I mean, look under fun rap sheet just tweeted about the sale. Oh, okay. That they reached the agreement. Wait, okay. Is that different than that was one minute ago. Yeah, this is, this is me being subdued. Yes. Hank, see, see, Hank, wait, what is that? Is that different than what was, it is not exclusive and not signed. Okay. So we got to wait again. So we'll celebrate

next week. Yeah. We'll celebrate and celebrate some more. I'm acting like I've been there before because I have five times. Um, yeah. The playing games were fun. They were fun on Wednesday night. We're, we're playing game guys now and then on Friday, I'll decide if I'm not, I guess so. I just, but isn't it fun to just do, we'll just be as knee jerk and, uh, as, as like recency biased as possible with the playing games. That's just how I'm going to judge it. So it's really the last game, the last play in game, whether or not it was a good play in tournament. Yeah. And then next year we'll do the same thing again, because really it is so funny that like it becomes a debate whether the playing game is fun or not or stupid or not. And it's like, but

it's just going to, they're going to keep doing it because it makes more teams involved and makes more money for owners. So it's not going anywhere. Don't get me wrong. If they announced that they were going to do this in the NFL and add another playoff team via a play in game, I'd be all in on that. Yeah. More football. Exactly. More basketball. Yeah. More sports. Yeah. It's the only reason that it's even a debate for basketball is because you with football, you can kind of tell yourself, Oh, this, you know, there's been six seeds that have won the Super Bowl. Yeah. There's never been an eight seed that's won the NBA finals. Yeah. It's just, it's very funny to think that they have a play in tournament when the entire season is a play in tournament for the

playoffs. Well, and we're going to have the mid season play in tournament too, which will be fun as well. All right. So Jake, heat versus bulls Friday night, no DR DeRosin. Yeah. You got to feel confident. We'll say not. Okay. That was, yeah. That was your pregame show. Jake, how much popcorn? A kettle corn? I bought a huge bag. This is a zero kettle. Oh, I bought a huge bag of popcorn. You're not having any kettle corn for this game though. I'll shout for the night before broadcast. So I'll, oh, you can't. Yeah. I'll tweet out my bag of popcorn. It's enormous for Friday night. Okay. I've eaten so much fucking popcorn and you not eating popcorn makes me think the bulls are going to win. Yeah, they might. Yeah. You're not really into it. What do you, what do

you got? What, what do you, what broadcast you got? Oh, funny. FDNY NYPD hockey game at UBS arena on Long Island. Barstool.TV pregame. Big cat will be on the panel at four 15. I will. Biz and I will be, and Whitney will be a ringside in between the benches at five o'clock is puck drop barstool.TV. Can't wait. I think it's harder to get tickets for this event than Taylor Swift tickets. It might be. Yeah. They don't sell them. You can only get them through. They give the tickets to like fire houses and police houses and that's the only way you can get them. This is like, this is much washed up. What are they called? Stations. The NYPD. Why is it how, why, why do the firemen get station, why the firemen get houses and police men get stations like sleep over there?

But I'm just asking another question. They have a kitchen. No, I'm glad. I'm glad. Hank's asking this because if you're asking it, then some other person at home, probably one person at home is like, why isn't it a house? Thank you, Hank. Some police. DR DeRose probably lives in that in eighth grade. Yeah. An eighth grade is an eight year old. What are you going to say, Billy? Just FDNY, FDNY NYPD events always go hard. Like their football game, there was a huge fight. In the stands? No, on the field. It was like huge brawl and like their boxing events are insane too. But it's all love after. No, not really. Oh, okay. They still hate each other. Oh, nice. So Jake, have you worked on your, your announcing when it comes to fighting because there will be

fights that you'll have to do play by play for? Yeah, that will be awesome. And I feel like the comp like business is going to go all in on that too. It's going to be great. Can't wait. So other things, the Tampa Bay Rays are now 13 and 0. We didn't jinx them. Is that a record? Tied. Tied. Two teams. It reminds me of that famous clip when someone called into Francesa before opening day and was like, you ever think a team is going to be able to go 162 and 0? And he like debated the guy for real. I was like, no, it's, it's crazy. But now are the rays ever going to lose? Three games set at Toronto this weekend and then three games at Cincinnati third. I know they haven't played a lot of good teams, but still 13. Oh, it's fucking impressive. It is good. I wonder

how that translates though to the rest of the season just in baseball history. Also, go ahead. Sorry. The teams that get off to the hottest start. I wonder how frequently they end up in the World Series. Yeah, probably not often baseball is such a streaky sport that you'd almost rather, you'd rather end the season. Well, definitely you'd rather end the season 13 and 0 than start at 13 and 0. And there's so many games. They're basically, if it was the NFL, no, they're one, no, they're one and 0 and up and half time in the second game. Yeah. Yeah. Also in 10 of the 13 games, they've given up three runs or less. That's pretty good. I was walking by the gambling cave today and it feels like they're just

like toying with teams because they were, they were playing the Red Sox. They had bases loaded two outs and a guy bunted a run in. I love that. I don't get insane. Give me small. That's a fucking crazy move. And we will be doing the, the fancy baseball draft at some point. Yes. Yes. We'll have to find one more person. Yes. That also has to happen. We're going to, there was maybe Tom Fresneli wanted to be in. I want to do the draft at, at all star break and have all the stats count already. Max had the idea looking past. He was already looking past the first round and saying, no, that's, that's illegal. That's, you can't do that. God forbid you try and program the show or do any scheduling. He said, I, I said that you

didn't get full ownership for Brooks choking. We should do non Twitter. We should do, I thought Twitter is not an app that we should use anymore. It's not. I mean, it's pointless, but the facts remain. We should do it during hypothetical six or Celtics live stream to the draft during that. That's good. I also think we should have Tom draft the team and then you just manage the team and you act like it was yours from the start. Yeah. But Tom knows baseball, but I, he can all have him manage it, but then I'll just say he takes all the credit for Tom. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That would be great. Oh yeah. And we should do, we should do like no computers. We should have like a big draft board. So we have to like write, write down the names

and stuff. This is a big future. That would be awesome. Yeah. Yeah. Because we'll, we'll definitely re-pick. Actually we should count re-picks if they're honest, re-picks past like the 10th round. Team can own the same guy. We're going to have to get Steven Chey involved for, yeah. Yeah, to figure this out for us, to coordinate it. Yeah. He can be the commissioner. He already has, he has skills as being the commissioner of fantasy. We also have potentially, depending on what happens tonight in hockey, Hank versus memes in the first round. Islanders, Bruins. I also wanted to give just a heads up to anyone who follows part of my take on Twitter. Please subscribe to the YouTube as well. I have told memes that he can just do a personal tweeting

of all Islanders games because he, it is the, the team that he cares the most about. And it was funny seeing on the PMT Twitter the other night, just having an Islanders post just out of, out of the clouds because they clinched the playoffs. And it was like, I don't think we've ever talked about the Islanders on this podcast. And he's just like, you know, take, take the wheels to this. We're at the last game at the, at the barn. Yeah, we weren't. Wait, no, no, no, no. We saved seven. Yeah, we saved the barn. Yeah. That was the last game there, wasn't it? No, they played game seven there, I want to say. I played one other game. They did have another game. I don't know if it was there at the barn, but we saved the barn. We did save the barn.

And we'll be at their current home this weekend. For what? Oh, all right. What else? What else? Oh, Billy, let me ask you a question. Yep. Are you getting a little nervous about not having a quarterback? Yep. It does feel weird. I mean, every week it's like, it could be my fire fast. It's, it's just ongoing and everything that new comes out feels like they're farther apart. Is, is Aaron Rodgers, I think there was a quote that said he was 90% retired and Woody Johnson wanted confirmation. Doesn't feel good. Doesn't feel good at all. When was that quote? It's from somewhere. Okay. I think it was said in private and Woody Johnson

just like, was like, what the fuck? Like we want some assurance. See, the thing is like Aaron, he's not going to play on the Packers this year, but he might, he might retire. And you, who's the worst, the Packers fans, because they're just gloating about the whole situation. Like you can't have them. We can't have them. Like, yeah, one of my world. It's, it's not off to a good start. Even if he becomes a quarterback of the Jets and I'm sure you guys will forget about this. If he starts winning football games, but it's not a good sign to start the relationship. If you ask somebody out on a date and then she ghosts you for the next two months, we signed Boyle. Oh, Tim Boyle, TB12. Yes. Who we think is like his,

you know, like emotional support backup. Yeah. Like, so hopefully that's like a step closer. It's like one of his guys to get him there. I'm enjoying the hell out of it because he's, like PFT said, he's not playing for the Packers. So I've already, I've already moved on. I'm, I don't care where he plays. I don't care if he plays. I don't care if he goes anywhere. Like it's that relationship is over. I've done my celebrating. It's over. You know who's the real winner right now? Who? Zach Wilson. Why? All right. Here we go. Hold on. Hold on. Everyone, if you're standing up listening to us sit down, go. Like what if Aaron Rodgers doesn't go, then who's the guy? Zach Wilson will suck again. I know. But like for him, it's like, oh, I think

you're Zach Wilson. The best case scenario is that you don't have to play. Correct. Yeah. More tape is bad tape. Yes. If you're Zach Wilson. Yeah. This is actually the nightmare scenario for Zach Wilson because he could back up Aaron Rodgers for a year. They win a Super Bowl hypothetically. And then he's now like had a year to study behind Aaron and people are like, wow, Zach Wilson might be good. Whereas if he actually has to play football, people are going to be like, Oh yeah, Zach Wilson's not good. Right. Right. It's all bad. All right. So we're two weeks from the draft. I did see there's like a report that Stetson Bennett might go undrafted for off field things, which just made me laugh because if he was a top 10 pick, there's no chance

he would go like, yeah, he was already a six or seventh rounder. So I feel like teams are just using this as like, Hey, we're standing up for something. It sounds like smoke screen season. Yeah. It sounds like one person was like, yeah, we really want them. So we're just going to say he might go undrafted. Yes. The arrest video wasn't that bad. I thought it was a lot worse, as it was described. Describe it. I miss Stetson Bennett. Yeah. No, I missed. Yeah. So we got basically like locked out and lost his phone. And then like once the officers got there, he was like pretty respectful. And then he just like started because someone called that he was banging on a door trying to get in. I think the worst arrest video was Baker Mayfield because he got caught

from behind. He got caught by like a middle age dude. Yeah. Like that was bad. If I was the Browns, I'd say no, no, not me. Yeah. All right. And the last thing I had was, I don't know if you guys saw, but Jim Nance did a podcast and he came out in defensive Tony Romo. Oh, that's good. So I'm going to read the quote to you and you tell me if you think there was any smoke to the fire that everyone was talking about. Jim Nance should not be on a podcast. Yeah. Frankly, that's beneath Jim Nance. It is. So he said, Tony is the best. He's the absolute best. And he's also one of my best friends. I love the guy. And when somebody starts questioning our chemistry, there's an agenda there. There's nothing wrong with our chemistry. I've never had better chemistry

with anybody in my career than Tony. All you have to do is sit in the booth with us, which people that are covering our business, they're always welcome to come in and take a look at how we interact between the two of us on the air, off the air, between plays. It's amazing. I'm not worried about it. Here's what I don't get. Where was this all this outcry during the season? It's not like we were invisible. Me think the Lady Doth protests too much. Yeah. That's like, I'm not mad. Don't say that I was mad. Please don't write in the newspaper that I was mad. Tony is the best. He's the absolute best. And he's also one of my best friends. Yeah. Jake, describe, describe sitting next to Billy, working with Billy. What would you say about that? He's the best. He's

one of my best friends. Yeah, he is. Exactly. There we go. And we rest our case. Also, he said anyone in the business is welcome to observe. I'll do it. Okay. In the fall. So you'll go observe. If they come to MetLife, I guess soldier for you. Yeah. Yeah. Go observe. Usually on Fox. But you, you have permission to go anywhere to observe them for a game and report back. Will you call it straight or will you have such reverence for Jim Nantz? Yeah. I've tweeted. Okay. But like, there's no way they're going to let you in the booth. Jake, you would be in the presence of Jim Nantz and you would just, you would just cream yourself. I don't think you'd be able to call that straight. Go back to my Twitter two weeks ago. What happened? What would

you say? Oh, he saw Jim Nantz. That's right. Yeah. No, but I'm saying like, if you got to watch him call a game, there's no way you'd be like the chemistry up here is questionable. So I'm willing to observe and take notes on that. Okay. If they allow me. Perfect. So CBS. Invite us. I won't do anything bad. Definitely not. No. No, like actually. We need to like get it so that we're, we're like, we get a big trench coat and we're underneath Jake or put a stink bomb in his jacket. He doesn't even know. Just detonate it. What about real bomb? Yeah. Real bomb. Yeah. Kill Tony Romo. Yeah. Yeah. No. All right. So invite us CBS to be determined whether Jake will be carrying a real bomb or not. No, I will. Jake, have you ever

seen the movie Valkyrie? No. You can't, if we put a suicide vest on you, you can't really stop us. Well, I wouldn't go. No, but you can't. Oh, yeah. Then it's, yeah. Yeah. What would you, oh, you do like the noble thing and like jump into the ocean and just blow it up there. Would you die for Jim Nantz? Oh, good question. No. Okay. All right. That's not an answer, Jake. That was a, that was a regretfully yes. So you'd be alive, but Jim Nantz would die and then. No, that's selfish. So you would die for Jim Nantz? I guess. Okay. Good. All right. All right. So yeah, so Jake's the perfect suicide bomber. Yes. Perfect suicide bomber. Jake, when you get to heaven, there's a thousand Jim Nantz's calling every game. A little correction. Stetson Bennett

did make a couple of comments to the cops about like how they ruined his reputation. There was a good, yeah, good correction. So Billy will be rooting for the FDNY this weekend, that sounds like. No, no, no, no. NYPD. Okay. Okay. Good correction. All right. We got two awesome interviews. He's overall pretty respectful probably. We have Dan Hurley in studio, fresh off the national championship, and then we're going to do Kirk Goldsbury, NBA preview talking about the first round, who we think is going to make it out of the first round. And also he gives us his NBA finals prediction, which was fantastic. Before we do that, Morgan and Morgan, if you've been injured in an accident, Morgan and Morgan makes it easy for you. File a claim

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pound law to start a claim today. Okay. Here he is. UConn head coach, Dan Hurley. Okay. We now welcome on a recurring guest in person. He is now a national champion is coach Dan Hurley from the UConn Huskies. We talked to you after the elite eight. So congratulations. You did it. You approved it. Has it set? I mean, we're like a week and a half after. You just rang the bell. You've been doing the whirlwind tour, the parade and everything. Has it fully set in that you are a national champion and that this is like you, you, you did it. You did it. Yeah. UConn did it. UConn did it. We did it. Like, you know, like the blur really since like, I'd say, you know, when in the Arkansas game, man, like that, getting ready for Gonzaga,

knowing you're like a game away from getting to a final four blur really from that, from that Gonzaga game through to, you know, sitting here with you guys, man, it's been a blur. And then, so like really just in the car, maybe like driving home, you think about it. Oh, shit. We did it. Yeah. What a national championship. Yeah. Coach in high school, 12 years ago, whatever. It's like amazing. But they were, you know, the job wakes you back up because everything just starts moving. I wish I could have played like the CBI or the NIT or kept the season going because now I'm dealing with all the same shit that everyone else is dealing with. Right. Yeah. And I owe a transfer. And right after the game was over, it's like the media blitz

starts right as soon as that final horn sounds. And one of the first people that got to talk to you after the championship was our darling Jake. Yeah. He was down on the court. He pulled you aside and you said, I can't wait to go back on the podcast. Do, do you remember the name of the podcast that you're on right now? It's right in front of me if I mess that up. Now, to be fair, like in the, in the heat of the moment, you were probably not thinking about this podcast as soon as you maybe were, I don't know, after you win the national championship. Not at that moment. Shortly. Oh, damn. Shortly after. Yeah, that's true. Yes. Yes. I did. I did actually congratulate Andrew, your son. And I was like, if he responds tonight, I'm going to try to FaceTime him through

Instagram. So yeah, yeah, yeah. Let you guys enjoy that. I know it's like the media, but then it's, you know, it's like the agents, they're all waiting for you. Yeah. The players, agents, it's crazy. You get back to the hotel. You think it's just going to be a celebration, but everyone's got someone. Yeah. Yeah. Everyone's pitching their shit. So right after you win, we were lucky enough to interview coach O and LSU right after they won like the morning after. And you could tell he was still kind of in coach mode. He was like, run around yelling at the players like, bus is leaving eight a.m. sharp. Be there. You know, that sort of thing. Like, he was still trying to whip them into shape and make sure that they were on the right schedule.

Right after you win, how much of your job is still like as, you know, on the administrative side, as a coach, making sure the players are following like all the random details and how much of it is like you getting a chance to celebrate with your family and with your guys. Yeah, man. So it's like, you know, unlike old school, I coach these guys pretty hard, you know, and you can tell by the way we play that like, you know, like, you know, a whole like organization, it's pretty, you know, it's disciplined. So for me, after you win that, it was much more of like, celebration with with with the guys, you know, like you, your relationship is like, when you went to championship like that together, like, you know, they maybe see a

different side of you, you're more like, I don't know, more vulnerable, more open, like hug, and it's nothing but love, right? So now like, I've been nice to them, you know, these guys, you know, since we won it, I mean, I'm sure these guys have had a great time. And, you know, you could tell some of them, some of these guys have baggy eyes, they look tired. So yesterday I had to bring them in. And like, I felt like we got to get back on track here, and we got to start functioning like an organization again, because like you guys have enjoyed this enough. But those are the really cool moments in college sports where I think even you're embraced with Jordan Hawkins knowing that he's going to go pro and what he was, what he proved this past year to increase his

lottery status and all that, you guys accomplish it together. Those are the moments that are like beautiful. I don't want to sound sappy, but I love those. All the brutality, you know, all the brutality that we all go through, you know, like the sacrifice, like the amount of time, you know, the intensity of what we do to be able to like deliver in big moments like that, you know, and then, you know, like you recruit this kid and his family's all in with his career and a dream is like, go to Yukon and absolutely crush it. You know, when you, when you, when it hits like that on both sides, man, it's like, it's the best. It's the best because it usually don't go like that. Right. Right. This might be a dumb question, but from our point of view, was it too

easy? It felt too easy for you guys. Yeah. We kept looking at like Luke, Luke, Mary and Kamani and young and Tom Moore. I was like, felt like in like right before these games started, is this, is this going to be the one, is this going to be a game where like it's going to have to be free throws or a big shot, but just when you really, you know, minus that month of January, man. Like it was like, you, you were proven that's what we did the whole year minus the month of January. You were proven so correct when you said like, once you got a big East play, because I think that it ended up what 17 and 0 against non-conference opponents, all double digit wins. Yeah. And January felt like it was forever. It's the longest month in terms of days,

right? Yeah. 31. Yeah. That's as high as you could go. Right. It felt like such a long month. Yeah. But it's crazy because it really did feel, I think you guys were trailing like all of like 50 seconds in the second half in the tournament. It just felt, I don't know if there's ever a moment maybe when San Diego State cut it to five, but even then you felt like, it felt like you guys weren't panicking and I think you might have called the time out, but there wasn't a lot of panic. No. You know, the only one that panicked was my associate head coach Kamani Young, where we're down versus Iona. I felt pretty, I mean, I didn't feel great about it. You're down at halftime and you know what you did the year before, Teddy Allen, New Mexico, it was a disaster.

So I went to the locker room. I felt like what they were doing was unsustainable. Yeah. And I felt like we were getting, like we were doing everything we wanted to do. It just wasn't happening yet. We're going to go out and run and get them out of there. But I, so I walked into the locker and I was very composed. But I saw out of the corner of my eye, Kamani Young and Jordan Hawkins' face, wake up. We're not doing this again this year. So I, maybe, I don't know which one, like the impact, it might have been him or me being cool or him losing his mind. A little bit of both. Coaches and teams are really good at finding any perceived slight against them to use that as

motivation. I mean, we saw with the chiefs this year, Travis Kelsey was like, nobody believed in us. It's like, you're the chiefs. I think a lot of people did believe in you. You were kind of in a similar situation. You were just running rough shot on people. And most people were the exception of Max, who did bet against you. Every single game in the tournament this year. So he's a Villanova fan. So every single game he bet against you. If you were looking, if you're looking for the one doubter in the world to use as motivation, that's your guy right there. Well, we, I mean, I get it though, because we stole all of Max's hope because everyone was talking up Villanova when Justin came back. And then we played that final game of the regular season down in Philly.

And we crushed you guys. And everyone was going crazy. Villanova was going to win the biggest tournament. Villanova was on the bubble. Who could have said that? Max, we ended all that. Yeah. No, no, I was rebuilding here. First year head coach. That's what you're saying all year, right? Well, when Moore came back, he was still a little hurt. So was there any of that that you were not for Max, obviously, but did you ever, were you able to play the like nobody is believing that you can win this game card? No one thinks that you guys can win the championship? Or if, I guess probably not. And if not, what did you use as the motivation? Like the fact, I mean, we weren't ranked unlike the chiefs. I mean, they were like the Super Bowl favorite. Yeah.

It was different. We were not ranked in anything in the preseason. So I think like in the beginning of the year. And if for me, like just any time, you know, a flight is late or the hotel. Yeah. First Hotel Vegas was just a dump. And we just knew we couldn't stay in there. It was shady and it was really bad. And then we went right to practice. And then they robbed the bus and stole all the computers. And so things like that that are going on. Hey, like they put us in the worst hotel of all the seeds out here. I mean, I'll use any of that. Yeah. I'll use it all. Well, if you want Max next year, we will offer him up to you because it is shocking. Like you guys won every game by double digits. He bet against you every single game. Oh, brutal. So you couldn't

even watch the games with any real drama. I don't think it was. It's completely robbed them of everything. I didn't doubt Yukon. I just hate Yukon basketball. So like I couldn't bring myself to root for to bet on Yukon because I truly hate your basketball program. The coaches, the players, the fans, the fans, the fans, really, the fans, really. He gets really upset that you said, what was the quote? Like get something about Madison Square Garden as your guys home away. I mean, like when we come here, it's like we play St. John's here. It's like it feels like a home game. Yeah. I mean, we do. I mean, it's not like we dominate here. I mean, we've done bad in here, too. I got thrown out of here in the Iowa game. I had the chest bump. It hasn't all been the joy

ride. Yeah. No, I went pretty hard. I was pretty excited when you guys lost in the biggest tournament to go back to that quote. I know. And then one of the guys on Marquette did it and it was taken out of context. I didn't say like we can't be beaten here. Yeah. But we're at home. You did have the quote, get your wins in now when you lost to Villanova was a year two, year two, year two. Yeah, with Max's crew. So how does that feel? Like that must feel awesome to be like, look, I said this and I was right. And we were vindicated and we put a championship up, you know, banner up in stores. I mean, I felt like I had to say something. You know, all those national championships, I mean, like from 19 to 14, four of them. And now you're playing like a mid major, like really bad

program. You know, year one, we played Villanova at the garden. They smoked us. They beat us by 25 right before Christmas. It just, you know, it just destroyed Christmas. And we played them the next year on the road there. And we lost like a one possession game, like we were right there year two. And I knew we had like our talent level was about to increase. I knew, you know, we kind of had our culture and organization together, and it was about to take off. And when you're a coach at Yukon, sometimes you got to say shit to get to rally the troops because it's a, you know, it's a high bar over there. Yeah. Yeah. It's the basketball capital of the world. Oh, I like that. I like that. Are you guys a blue blood? Because we had the debate. We gave you

guys blue blood status for winning the first. I know. I know. So this, Dan Toscano, one of our board members and like one of our, you know, big donors, his thing is like, no, forget the blue blood. You know, we're a program that bleeds blue. You know, Max, the bleed blue. So like, we're going to create our own, because we've got the five national championships and NBA players for days in the last 20 years, most of anyone. That is, yeah. Max, we bleed blue. We don't even want to be a blue blood. We're our own kind of deal. It was cool. Like it must have been awesome after the game to see all of the legends of, you know, Yukon on the, on the court, celebrating with you guys. Like that is, you know, there's some programs that have that, obviously. Tucky's

got a ton, Duke's got a ton, but to have that, and I'm sure that helps in recruiting where you're like, look, I'm hanging out with Ray Allen. I'm hanging out with, you know, all these guys right after the game. Big star power. Yeah. Like big star power. And all those guys, they're in the practice facility. You got the, all the banners, you got all the lottery picks. So, you know, Ray Allen and Rip, all these guys are looking, looking down on us, on that practice court. And just to have everybody kind of congregate out in Houston, man, it was just, it was a wild scene. Those guys were coming to practices. They're on the court with you while you're cutting down the nets. They're back at the hotel when it's just

absolute like mayhem back there. And they're just like in the mix with all Yukon fans. It was crazy. Yeah. Did you get a chance to catch up with Jim Nance after the Final Four? No, I, not after, just on the podium, you know, but our podium, podium was like all disorganized, man. Like we had like key players and like major coaches were like in the back or like we had like GA's in the front with the trophy, with players that like didn't do as much as like other players. It was just very bad setup. But it was cool. Just being around people like that. I mean, again, I was like a high school coach, not too long ago to be out there with like, you know, Raft and, and Jim Nance's last Final Four, his first ones with your brother.

That was, that was crazy. So, speaking of your brother, we had him on the day that you won the national title. We interviewed him on that Saturday before you had played in a Final Four game. He, I want to give him credit. We gave him the question. He said he's 100% rooting for you. So I want you to know that he, because we gave him as many outs as possible. Like, hey, wouldn't it be nice? You know, like there's maybe 0.01% like true serum that you want to do it before him. But he put it perfectly. He's like, I had the college career. My dad had the high school career. And now Dan is doing his thing and winning a national title. It's like, did you have a little of that where it's like, not that you've been living in the shadow of your brother and your dad,

but there's been a lot of talk about those two guys. And now you have your moment. Yeah. It's like, when you look at your career as a player and a coach, it's not like I was like, had a, you had a bad career. I mean, I was like, I ended up being a pretty good player at the end of my playing career. You know, obviously my first attempt in college didn't work out great. I got fired at Rutgers as an assistant and didn't know that I necessarily even worked my way back to this. But, you know, at St. Benedict's, I ran like a big time program at Wagner. We wanted a high level Rhode Island. Like we did, you know, great stuff, but I never accomplished that real like elite level shit, right? And stuff that like, you know, at the top of your profession, top of the competition

type of moment. So for me, yeah, I mean, I've been a basketball lifer. So it was a big moment. I love that. I'd say, yeah, this is, this is definitely a huge moment for you. I'll give you an opportunity. We'll do a headline grab here. So I'll just give you the opportunity to say the Houston Rockets call you tomorrow. We want Dan Hurley as our head coach. What do you say? Yeah, no, I'm not. I've still got some I got some developing to do on the sideline. There's no one coaching like me in the NBA. They're not ready. They're not ready. They're not ready. And maybe I'm certainly not ready. I do believe I mean, that is something I aspire to, you know, down the road. You know, I love college. I hope I could continue to put Yukon in this position

moving forward. I don't think we're going anywhere. I think we'll kind of, I think we're going to stay somewhat in the area where we are. They're hard to do every year, but I think we've established a level. But NBA someday, I just got to kind of, you know, continue to mellow and, you know, you know, yeah, I mean, well, so I read an article before the final four that said that you are Zen and this team was so good that you didn't get angry. Have you gone soft? No, no, no. People are saying he's gone soft. Not me. You're not seeing the rage as much. Oh, no, you know, rage behind closed doors was all there. The practice intensity is you're getting a little mad that big cat soft right now. I'm happy because I'm seeing that the

it's true that you're not soft, but people have called you soft. I know. So you said that you didn't drink your own piss. And to me, that made you soft. I know. I know. I know. After though, after the effin clown thing in the Villanova game, once the effin clown thing went viral, like a lot went on after that. And I got my wife sat me down, you know, my agent and told me I had to just calm it down a little bit. Really, since then, my the antics haven't been quite what they used to. Yeah. And we used we would show we had like a four minute mix tape that we would show to like recruits and recruits. Listen, their families love it. The players love the way I coach. Yeah, I know that like a lot of opposing fans don't like it.

Yeah, because it's it's intense, man. It's like it's in your face. That's the way we play. I don't care. Yeah, I've also created a lot of enemies because everywhere I've been, I've won a lot. So all those other teams in those conferences and different places that we we've kicked their ass. I've I've made a lot of enemies over the year. Yeah, I don't care. So not soft, not soft. Okay, just maturing a little bit, picking my spots. It's like a focused rage that you can still channel a time and a place for everything, right? It's like, you know, my, you know, my favorite coach Fran McCaffrey, right? It's like, when I just want to channel it like that and have more bigger moments like him. Did you like his stare down? Yeah, that was crazy. I never saw that.

But when I saw it, I how much did he get a technical after that? I don't think he got a tech after that, but they came back. That was the crazy comeback where they were down like 12 with like 50 seconds left. And he just stood there. He wouldn't he'd still be standing there if someone didn't grab them. I got a lot of respect for the official and I had him on a tournament game and I wanted to ask him about it. But like that was the best one I've seen. Yeah, that was just the best one. Yeah, you can't break a stare down. You have to have your own guy pull you away. Yeah, it was like the USC are big boxing. Yeah, they were just locked forever. I love speaking the NBA. This is a weird question, but

so Kyle Anderson played for your dad gets in that little thing with, with Rudy Gobert. And I'm wondering, I don't know if you talked to your dad about it all, but his restraint in that moment was exceptional because Rudy Gobert throws a punch at him. You could see him instantly like go after him. And then he immediately is like, wait, stop. This is like, it's bigger than this. Like I have to, we have to win this game. Can we give your dad credit for that? Yeah, shout out to St. Anthony. They're slow mo, uh, you know, slow mo great family, like great, great, great people and a, you know, state champion at St. Anthony, number one in the country, one of the best players ever to come out of Jersey, definitely St. Anthony street

stops here. Miracle St. Anthony, all that. Yeah. And he, he, he was taught correctly to not, not throw punches in the huddle. No, cause yeah, I mean, uh, yeah, he learned that at St. Anthony for my dad. Yeah. It was the look of a man that knew that Rudy Gobert had probably like two feet of reach on him. Yeah. Smart guy. I mean, you know, my dad's an intense guy. I'm sure they came close to, he said that he was like, look, I've been, I've had these things happen. Like I've been in these intense wars and it's Jersey. I mean, North Jersey basketball, even, I think back to when, when I was coaching high school, Kevin Boyle, who's at Monteverde, who has like number one team in the country every year and all types of NBA players and my dad, we're all

coaching within like, you know, eight miles of each other and you would have an any given year, you know, like 10 or 12 high major recruits that could play anywhere in the country. And so there's no better place than like North Jersey for basketball, like during that time in the 2000s. Yeah. Can you look around the country and say, okay, California kids play, you know, this style, North Jersey kids play this style, Florida kids play this style. Yeah. Yeah. There is definitely, you know, there's definitely, you see the differences, you know, with like a team from Philly or, you know, you know, an AAU team from, from New York City versus, you know, like a, like a West Coast team. And even like one of our key ingredients to

with this year's team, Joey, California, I wasn't sure that it would translate, you know, just to have to kind of, you know, the guts to do it in the big East. But, you know, Joey pulled it off. Yeah, he was awesome. It was like a character from Top Gun, Joey, right? Like you could have easily been an ice man. Yeah. There was one moment at the end of the game I want to talk to you about. You got your son in the game. He played in every tournament game, which credit to you. You were looking out for him. You got him some minutes at the end. He looked like he wanted to pull up a three at the end of the game. And I saw you on the sidelines and he had the ball in his hand and it looked like you told him, don't shoot it. And he listened to you in that moment.

But probably in the back of his mind, he's like, I just wish I could have gotten that shot. I wish I could have gotten on the, on the chat sheet. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he doesn't listen to me. It's like any, just like any kid his age, he doesn't listen. He goes to his mother a lot more times because she's going to tell him what he wants to hear. Yeah. And I'm going to be more honest with him. And he desperately wanted to shoot. He was very assertive and very aggressive throughout the tournament. You know, he either rebounded the ball, got a steal or fouled. He's found the shit out of people too. And then he took back to back threes, I think in Albany. First one he almost had on a step back versus a scholarship guy. And then I think he might

have air-balled the second shot. Yeah. You know, so we met after at the hotel. That would have been very funny though. To our efficiency. You're telling him not to shoot in the last seconds. And then he finds his mom in the stands. He's like, mom, can I shoot? Yeah. And she's like, yeah. She's like right over my head. He turned the ball over against Miami, picked up a five second violation at the end of that Miami game. So he did not have a clean sheet in the NCAA. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, it was an incredible run. I'm happy I wasn't the mush. I told you that I was afraid for a while. Good news is I had Max going the other way, which I think he's the actual mush. So he helped us out. My last question and this has been awesome.

Well, you have to get us our painting. Yeah. You guaranteed that. I took a look around. Yeah, you did a mental snapshot. I've got everything I need to know. Yeah. So I'm always curious to this with coaches. So you win the title. Obviously, it's incredible. Your roster's incredible. A guy like Jordan Hawkins, who's going to most likely be a lottery pick. What is the conversation with him? Are you, is there any part of you that's like, come on, just come back one more? Or are you just because that always, you know, selfishly, if I was in that shoes, I'd be like, come on, man, let's run it back because you want to, you want to, you obviously want to success, but you also want him to live his dreams. Can't do it unless you think a kid's

making a mistake. Yeah. You know, unless you think a kid is not ready or he can really increase his chances. Like, you know, book night, the end of this freshman year, you know, James Book Knight could have gone like late first. He was crushing at the end of his freshman year. You know, but we knew that, you know, he could become a lottery pick and he could make a lot more money by coming back to college. You know, I think you just each situation, you do it's in the best interest of the kid. You try not to think selfishly about it whatsoever. Even Andre Jackson, I mean, he's one that were, you know, that one that's probably going to play out over the course of the next month. If he could be a first round pick, you know, he's

got to go. If he's not a first round pick, the way it's set up in college now, it probably makes more sense to, if you have the ability to get there, go back and get better in college. There's NIL. If you're going, you know, if you're on a team like ours, which, you know, we're not going anywhere, we're going to have a chance to field a team next year with Klingon and Carabin and a bunch of these guys we were, that we're going to return. We got top recruiting class coming in. I plan for Jordan Hawkins to leave. Yeah. You know, you plan for like Sonogo Hawkins, potentially Andre going out the door this year before the season, and you make sure you have a top recruiting class coming in like we do. And now we'll go into portal and make some strategic.

I would have, I'd be the worst coach because I would sit down and Jordan Hawkins said like, listen, buddy, if you don't come back, I'm going to bash you to everyone. No, come back. Like I'm telling you, it's like you're, it's going to be so easy. It's going to be so much easier to get the next kid. Yeah, true. Long picture. You're thinking big picture. I'm thinking like I want to win again right away with the same guy. Yeah. And I know what we got coming in with the freshman class, man. It's like, I got five big time players. Are you, are you going to go to the draft? Yeah. Yeah. And we missed book nights draft because myself had come out of young. We got COVID. Oh, like literally the day of it. And they, they, they, uh, they sent us home. Okay. So we watched

book night. That's going to be a very cool moment to go to the draft with some of these guys. Yeah, that's going to be awesome, man. That'll, that'll, that'll rival winning it. Yeah. That'll rival winning it. Yeah. Some coaches say it's better. Yeah. I'm, I'm, yeah, I think so. Cause it's like these families, man, like the Hawkins family, the Jackson family, you know, potentially Sonogo, man, like these, uh, you know, you're just so proud. It's life changing. Yeah. Yeah. That's a deep connection you're going to have with these guys for the rest of their lives. That's very cool. That's got to be a cool moment as a coach. Absolutely. Uh, my, my last question has to do with your underwear. So the lucky underwear, was it, was it dragon underwear? Dragons, man.

That you wore for every, I'm assuming that you washed it in between, in between every game. Yeah. And between every game, like that, you know, like they used to do it in the old, like the olden days with the, the washboards. Scrub it. Yeah. Scrub them good. You just filled the sink up with soap water in the hotel. You put the underwear in there. You set up the hairdryers. Yeah. So are we, are we retiring that set of underwear? Are we bringing it back next year's tournament? Are we going to hang it up like a banner? It wasn't, it's like, first of all, it's, um, it's like a three, there's like three pairs of them. It's, it's great white sharks. It's, it's wolves. There's a pair of lions and then there's, there's the dragons. So it's actually

four different underwear. They rotate. And when you get to the post season, you just go with who, who brought the best season. Yeah. And then you just go with that. We need some, we need some analytics next year. Yeah. Which, so yeah, we'll run that for you. If you, if you want to have one of your, you know, uh, GAs or someone just shoot it, shoot Jake and note being like, Danny's wearing this tonight and then we'll just run the stats and we'll put out a graphic after every game and like he's three in one with the dragons. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's four and oh with the wolves. Yeah. Yeah. They sent me a big box too. There's like a hundred pairs of them and some of them are boxers and bikinis and they're all different sizes.

I just don't know what to do with it. Yeah. Where the bikini went to Maui. Like, do I just take them and like throw them out of the back of my truck? I can't, I don't know what I'm supposed to do with these underwears. Yeah. Well, thank you so much, coach. Max, any last words? Cause you, you've been the biggest loser in the month of March. Yeah. No, uh, I'm a big loser. You're a big winner. Um, it's basically all I have to say. Okay. All right. You're welcome. You're welcome. You're welcome for me rooting against you for every day. Yeah. So there it is. Uh, thanks so much, coach. Really appreciate it. I appreciate it. Max.

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that the Bulls won by like four points. Can you quantify what she did for the Bulls on Wednesday night? I've never seen anything like it. But whatever happened, the free throws cost them that game. I think the raptors, like you said, missed 18 free throws and from our friends at ESPN and stats and info, that's the most in a winter take all playoff or play in game big cat since the Lakers missed 19 in game seven of the 1969 NBA finals. So historically bad and you got to credit DeMar's little daughter for disrupting them at the line. What else can explain that? It was incredible. On like kind of a halfway serious note from that, is there something that you can put together where you can quantify where teams overall

are the worst at shooting free throws? Like what is the hardest place to shoot a free throw in the NBA? I would guess it's road environments like Boston or Oklahoma City where the crowd's really loud. But yeah, that leads us back to DR who, you know, that washed across my Twitter feed and I was like, whatever, this is and then you click on it and that noise was legitimately upsetting and disruptive. You know, we're all human beings, big cat, you're the you're the baller of the group. If you were shooting free throws, do you think that noise would get to you? Yeah, well, maybe it would help me because I'm not a great free throw shooter. But it was, it was crazy. It was like she's actually impacting the game here. I will not,

I will not hear otherwise. You just said it. The most missed free throw since 1969 in a play, in an elimination game in the playoffs. That's insane. Yeah. And it was the sound in that quiet gym. It jumped off the off the speakers, I guess. But yeah, it was it was that's why I love the playoffs. I guess the plan here. Yeah, I don't know what's going to happen, guys. And that was just an unprecedented moment. So, so about the plan, um, we had the take on Wednesday in theory, I'm not opposed to the plan. My problem with it is that the NBA playoffs usually go somewhat to script that the top seeds usually advance and it's very hard for a seven or eight seed, you know, eight seed, I think it's

only happened like two or three times. One of them was injury. The other was a famous, uh, DeKembe Mutombo, uh, Nuggets team when in a five game series. So do any of these teams have a shot of making noise and specifically the Lakers, because that feels like everyone's pick of like, Hey, watch out. The Lakers are now in the playoffs. Do they have a chance of going on a deep run? Yeah, I think the Lakers are the obvious choice. And I know we'll talk a lot about them big cap, but I love the Oklahoma City Thunder. Uh, you know, they have an all NBA guard who was the best player in the game, uh, Wednesday night as the Thunder beat the Pelicans. And if I'm sitting there and I'm the Denver Nuggets, I'm not scared, but that

that looks like a tougher team to beat than a normal eight seed or, and certainly the Grizzlies are now looking at the Lakers as a seventh seed in the East. I don't think it's very scary. I don't think either of the Bucks or Celtics who are sitting there one or two or worried about whoever comes out of this, this playing tournament. Uh, but the West is a different story and that's one of the big themes. Uh, the West is topsy-turvy in the Lakers are emergent. The Warriors are emergent and the Suns are emergent. Like some of the best teams in terms of the betting markets are at the bottom half of the bracket in part because they have dudes that we've seen win the finals. All these finals, MVP's in the bottom of the Western bracket, but the Lakers to me are the

scariest team to ever come out of the play and tournament. Does that mean they're going to the finals? Of course not. But geez, the LeBron James, Anthony Davis, that's a pretty scary seven seed. Don't you think? Yeah, the long history, the vaunted history of the play and tournament, the Lakers are the best team to emerge from that. I think Patrick Beverly is the best player to emerge from the play and tournament. Play in P. Well, I think Caruso, who reminds me of Matthew Delvedova a little bit, PFT, I think he'd like that comp. But in all seriousness, the lineups to the Chicago, Chicago is good on defense now. Yeah. And the, the, the Beverly Caruso combo, they're able to mess with opposing backwards in a way that just disrupts things. And I think

Caruso played incredible last night. Beverly gives every team he plays on that sort of personality implant that changes the vibe and every GM he walks into. And he's toughened up that bull's defense on that third defining trade going into Friday's game against Miami in Miami. And I could certainly win that. Yeah, the way they play. Yeah. Can you quantify how much of an impact Pat Bev actually makes? Because Russell Westbrook had the famous quote, Pat Bev tricky, all man, like he playing defense, he don't guard nobody. He just run around doing nothing. Does Patrick Beverly just run around doing nothing? Or is he actually, is he actually a good defensive player in crunch time? Both can be true. I think PFT, the bark is louder than the

bite. In his case, analytically, he doesn't show up. But man, you can't argue with some of the teams he's played on how they've ramped up their defensive effectiveness with him on the court, analytically, and with the eye test. I think the bulls have a pretty low ceiling this year. But that ceiling's higher than it was before he got there. I think he's out of the toughness. That defense is starting to jump off the page. Simply put, it's one of the best defenses in the NBA in the last few weeks. And I think that has a lot to do with him and Caruso being healthy. It's too bad they don't have Lonzo ball. But it's also a major accomplishment, big cat, because your team with Vuchovic, Levine and DeMar, you're telling me that's somehow a

decent defense. That's one of the biggest upsets of the second half of the NBA season. And PFT, I give credit to Beverly and Caruso for that, not to mention the coaches, obviously. I do always feel bad when Vuch gets stuck in a pick and roll out on the perimeter and you're like, there's a 50-50 chance he trips over his own feet here. So let's stick with, let's do a little East talk. The Bucks, I think everyone expects them to be there, at least to the conference final. The Celtics and Sixers, let's start with the Celtics. Hank's not in the room right now, but I feel like I've heard a prevailing theory that maybe the Celtics are better when Marcus Smart isn't on the court. Is there anything to back up that anecdotal feeling and what

kind of has happened with last year's defensive play of the year this year? I think he's had some injuries, but it does feel a little different than it did last year. Yeah, the short answer is Malcolm Brogdon, who they brought in in the off-season, and he's great. And he is a nice player to have. And they have Derek White, Malcolm Brogdon, and now Marcus Smart fighting for those slots in the back court, big cat. And I think they're both better offensive players, Brogdon and White, than Marcus Smart is right now. And none of them are going to win defensive player of the year like Marcus did last year. But they're pretty good on that end. But to answer your question, and this is going to be a theme today, the regular season and the playoffs are different animals.

What this team has with Marcus, Malcolm, and Derek in the back court is flexibility. There are going to be matchups that Marcus is going to be the right answer. There's going to be moments when Derek and Malcolm are the right answer. And so one of the things I'm watching with the Celtics who have a great shot to come out of the East is how Missoula, their first year coach, is going to use their rotations against certain teams. Because as you know, there's only five guys allowed on the court at any given time. And the Celtics are pretty deep. The back court's only part of that. But how is Marcus going to fit in? He's going to start, but who's going to finish and why? That's a big set of questions for the Celtics going into this playoff season.

What teams in the East are built for the regular season that have the biggest likelihood of sliding back in a seven game series, as opposed to like, is there another team out there that was not built for the regular season that is definitely built for the playoffs? The obvious answer here is the one that has James Harden on it. And that's a tough reality. That's a tough reality. But until we see it, PFT, it's fair to hang that on him a little bit. And if there's one player and one team who has sort of a legacy at stake, this postseason, it's the Philadelphia 76ers. And the other one I would say is Doc Rivers is part of that. It's not just James. Doc Rivers hasn't been a playoff coach in the last five, 10 years either. And so that's the obvious answer.

I love this Sixers team. Obviously, Embiid might be the best player in the league. It's either him or Giannis probably on both ends of the court. But yeah, those dudes have a lot at stake. And if there's one team that we can't really count on in this group of top Eastern teams going into this playoffs, it's fair to say that's Philadelphia. What about the opposite of that? What's one team that is, you know, maybe they slept walked a little bit in the regular season, but come playoff time, they can flip the switch. I wouldn't say they slept walk because Giannis is incredible. But Chris Middleton was not there for most of the season. And Chris Middleton is one of the big X factors in this playoffs. The last time this team was whole in the playoffs, they won the NBA

championship. I think there's something like 27 and five, 28 and five since Middleton's come back. The Milwaukee Bucks did not sleepwalk through anything, but their ceiling is very obviously the championship if they're healthy. And last time they were healthy, as I mentioned, they can beat anybody. So I think that would be my answer. I also love this Cleveland Cavaliers team. I think they're really great on defense, but they also have that down of a Mitchell factor and Darius Garland in the backcourt that can score on anyone in crunch time. And so I'm really eager to see how they do. I don't think they're at the status of Milwaukee or Boston yet, guys. But that team, I'm buying stock on them when in a title in the 2020s.

Oh, wow. And they could surprise. They could surprise this year. And that happens in the playoffs. Sometimes you get ahead of schedule like that Thunder team in 2011. Yeah, that's already 10, I should say. The interesting thing with the Cavs is, I mean, I love the storyline. Donovan Mitchell, you know, with the Knicks, it looked like it was going to happen, didn't happen. He is the quintessential guy who like can win you a game, but can also lose you a game by trying to win you a game too hard. That series specifically should be great. Is there anything to be said for, I love Tibbs as a coach, but I witnessed this and felt this personally, that he gets the most out of his guys in the regular season. And then when you get to the playoffs, finding that

extra gear, kind of like what PFT and you guys were talking about there with the Bucks finding that extra gear, there is no extra gear for the Knicks. They are what they are. They tried really hard. They always give max effort in February. It can win you a lot of games, become April, May, June. There's not that extra gear that they can find and beat some of these elite teams. Yeah, a couple of things I'll say to that. First of all, if I was in New York City over the next couple of weeks, I'd get to Madison Square Garden because playoff basketball there guys is special. It is one of my favorite things on the planet. So please, at least one of you go to one of those games. I think Knicks Emergence, now they landed at five. This is a successful season. The Jalen

Brunson acquisition has been great. Their offense is very good, but I'm not picking them to win their first round series because they're playing just a stacked Cavs team and that's a tough foreseed. I think you got to look forward as the Knicks are going from bad to good, this sort of being a transitional year. We're a first round playoff team. I think they have a lot to build on. Tibbs has that reputation and it's fair. He uses his starting group a lot, but this team has a little depth and the bench players in the backcourt can make things happen. I wouldn't be shocked if they win, but I think the Cavs are the right choice there. What about the Miami Heat? Are they officially dead? I think we pronounced them dead,

like the entire culture died. Dude, it's so hard. It's so hard to rule these guys out. I think there's a world where three weeks from now we're still talking about them because they somehow pulled themselves out of this grave. It seems like they're in, but doesn't it seem like it? It seems like they got their butts kicked on the glass in a way that a Miami team just doesn't get. That doesn't happen and it wasn't exactly Dennis Rodman out there. Clint Cappell is a great player of the Hawks for a talented frontcourt, but that was a butthole. On the glass, they need to have more from Bambam out of bio going forward and Jimmy Butler didn't have it going. They need more Tyler Harrow, but yeah, if they lose to this Chicago team,

I think it's time to change some things in Miami and I think whatever Arrow we just watched, which is undeniably successful guys getting to the finals, might have to end and they might have to make some big changes. Heat culture, I think, can survive regime changes and personnel turnover. I do think it starts with Riley and Spolstra, and I do have a lot of respect for that organization guys, but yeah, it seems like we're at the end of a person and Elron here if they lose. Duncan Robinson needs more minutes. That's what I'm hearing from you. Duncan Robinson is one of the best catch and shoot guys in the league, but I don't think they've, they've liked what they've seen when he's been on the court. So I'll trust their exposure with the lineup

stuff, but this team just might not have enough power to get through the first round, even the playing tournament. Okay. So out in the West, a couple of questions, a couple of teams want to touch on. I want you to make a prediction about how the sons of the greatest offensive team you've ever seen, just so that they can lose in the first round and we can laugh at you. But let's start with them. They have, when Kevin Durant has been healthy, they have, I think they haven't lost. Now, is that their competition or is that, this team is that scary and you feel most confident, like backing them in the West playoffs? I think the definitive theme of the Western Conference this year is WTF. I don't, I don't think I'll ever come on here with you guys in another post

season preview and, and just throw out this kind of concept that the West is drunk. Nobody has any idea what to happen. You can't make sense to the regular season numbers. Look, I use regular season numbers to try to predict, but the sons weren't the sons. The Lakers weren't the Lakers until very late in the season. They're two of the betting favorites now to come out of the West. And the Warriors haven't been right all year. So it's topsy-turvy. I will predict that the sons are going to come out of the West. It hinges on Kevin Durant's health. He is such an incredible scorer, big cat. He's the first scorer in NBA history to put up 55, 40, 90 numbers for a season. He's just insane. He can get shots against any defender in the league

and, and, and convert them at a high rate. The factor in the fact, they also have Devin Booker and Chris Paul and Deandre Aten, T.J. Warren, some nice supporting pieces. They deserve to be the favorites, but it all hinges on the health of one dude. And that's, that's obviously Durant. Yeah. What about, what about our Kings, our beloved Kings up in Sacramento? They, they had a great regular season. I feel like people are, are like patting the Kings on the head and being like, that was really cute. What you guys did. Great job. I'm proud of you guys. But are they actually a threat? Are the Kings a threat to come out of the West? PFT, what are the enchiladas and masks T-shirts say? I'd never trust a skinny cook.

One of our favorite sayings down here in Austin. And I'd say never trust a thin defense. And that's exactly what the Sacramento Kings are this season. They are the best offense in the league, credit to them, credit to Mike Brown here and Fox, the bonus have been great. They're the number 24th ranked defense and simply said, I've never seen a defense rank that low, do much in the playoffs. Add in, they got obviously a horrible draw in the Western Conference first round against the defending champs and one of the dynasties of recent pro basketball history. So it's, I'm not ruling them out by any means, but they got to get stops. They got to show me stuff on defense. They haven't been able to show me this season. I just think the West, especially the

lower half of the bracket is so, look, I think it's 10 of the last 11 finals, MVP's guys are in four through eight seeds in the West right now. So you have dudes like Durant, Curry, Kawai and LeBron, these aren't typical four, five, six, seven seeds. And that's what this unproven top tier in the West that includes Sacramento, that includes a banged up Memphis team, and that includes an unproven Nuggets team is staring at. It's not a normal year in part because they're unproven, but in part because that bottom half of the bracket is the Illuminati. And they're going to run into tough matchups earlier in their playoff runs than they would in normal years. So about the Nuggets, could we go with maybe the theory that looks like Embiid is the MVP? So now the pressure is off,

because there has been some backlash to Jokic winning, it looked like for a while there, he's going to win his third straight MVP, and they haven't done much in the playoffs. Is this any different than the past few years for the Nuggets? Like what is, if you're a Nuggets fan, how are you gearing up for the playoffs mentally saying, no, it's not going to be another disappointing second round exit? Well, you're the one seed. And I would say this about any one seed. If you're the one seed, you're slated to go to the finals. If the seeds hold at worst conference finals, if this team doesn't get to the Western conference finals, but cat, it's a disappointment. And it's a particularly powerful disappointment for a team that's

failed to get over the hump with an MVP for the last few years. Now, they have a very good excuse that their supporting cast has been just destroyed with injuries in some of these previous runs. Still said they're the number one seed, and it's fair to hang that big conference finals expectation on them. And again, I go back to the bizarre nature of this playoff bracket. Their second round opponent is likely going to be somebody like Kevin Durant in the Suns, or Kawhi Leonard in the Clippers, not a normal second round opponent. And there's a world where they get bounced in the second round. And at that point, it's, it's almost like I'm trying to think of an NFL example, like those Bill's teams at that, and the Jim Cali era, it's like, you just

can't do it, guys, you can get close, but you just can't, they're going to start getting that reputation fair or not. That's the industry I work in. And people are going to start saying that this team can't get it done in my matters most. And that's, that's unfortunately what's at stake for them this year, if they can't make a big, deep run towards the finals. Are they, they're healthier. Do you have any, any confidence whatsoever in them being able to handle a Clippers or Suns team in the second round? More than I have when they were always injured. I think they're pretty deep this time around. Their offense is going to score against anybody. And Jokic can score against anybody as a scorer himself, or obviously, as a playmaker.

You add Michael Porter, Jr., Jamal Murray, they have a core of guys that's going to score. The big questions, like with Sacramento, are on the other side of the court. Are they going to be able to get stops against this Suns team that includes like potentially three Hall of Famers in the starting five, including a great point guard, the best shooter in the league and Kevin Durant, the best scorer in the league, I should say, best shooter, Steph Curry. But, and also Devin Booker. When Devin Booker is your second option, I mean, that's terrifying. And my big question for Denver is that defense going to be able to stop a team like that in the second round. I think that's where I'm zeroing in. And I'm not confident they will be big cats. Yeah, you worked with

Kauai in San Antonio. You saw him get ready for the playoffs. Does he ever get amped up? Does he ever, is he ever fired up going into even like some of the biggest games of his career? Or is he 100% across the board, just like flatlining just a robot? I don't like what people call him a robot, because I've seen him do incredible things as a human being that the defied expectations had proved that he was up for the moment. The ones that stick out to me are the early in his career, the defensive performances against LeBron James. Nobody in the world expected him to do that. So obviously his preparation, his mentality, and you can't, he's a lot like Tim Duncan in the sense that no trash talker in Duncan's day with his garnet is going to get through to Kauai. Pat Bev

can get under almost anybody's skin. He's not going to annoy Kauai. And I do think that's one of his best traits is that as intense as these games can be in the springtime in the NBA, Kauai is unflappable. And people call him a robot or whatever. But like to me, he's obviously prepared. He's one of the best postseason players. When he's healthy, look at what he did in 2019. Look at what he did for 2014 Spurs. He has that in him. And obviously they've been bitten by the injury bug too, the Clippers with Paul George likely to miss this whole first round series. But the Clippers are also a very dangerous team with or without Paul George. If Kauai Leonard is, if you're telling me he's playing his best basketball, he hasn't lost many playoff series

when he's done that. And so I think it's a very dangerous team. I guess when I call him a robot, normally I would be using that as like, you know, an insult to somebody. But with Kauai, I think maybe we just need to rebrand like he's an assassin. Just cold blood. Yeah. There's something weird about his demeanor. I'll give you that. It's very unusual. He's not a very vocal leader, obviously. But it's terrifying. It's terrifying for every team he plays against because I love his game on offense now. He deserves a lot of credit because here's what I'd say about him. When we had him in San Antonio, he was in the midst of probably the most depressive player development arc I've ever seen. Going from a guy who quote unquote couldn't shoot,

go back and read the scouting reports when he came out of the draft. I can't shoot, we're shooter in his position group in his class. Now he's one of the best mid-range scorers on the planet, can hit threes off the dribble, has these little half hooks, can finish, can dunk, obviously has that historic game winning baseline shot over a bead in the 2019 playoffs. He is built for playoff war. And if you want to call him assassin, I think that's a better, a better fit PFT because he can, he can go out and win a game or a series with the scoring and obviously his defense. Everybody knows about that too. Yeah. So defense has been a theme in this conversation, obviously talking about the

Nuggets and the Kings and their defensive inefficiencies, not statistically speaking, but more in your trust factor. Who are the top two defenses in each East and West? Because like you could, you could possibly say the Warriors, even though they're, you know, they've been terrible on the road, but those guys all know each other so well and the way they rotate and everything. So who are the two teams that you trust most defensively in the East and the West? Well, I'll answer the question, you know, I'll answer, but excuse East because you're going to make me not say Cleveland and they're probably the third or best defense in these playoffs. So I'm going to say I've seen Boston and I've seen Milwaukee play great defense

in the postseason. I'm waiting for Cleveland to show it to me and I bet they will. So I'm going to say just for this, if you're giving me honest and Brooke Lopez and Drew Holiday in a playoff series, I'm taking them, that defense is just talk about stacked everybody. And they know each other, they have that familiar chemistry. They can predict where each other, so Milwaukee and then Boston, we've seen them. Boston, by the way, one of three teams in the last 25 years to finish in both top two offense and top two defense in the regular season. The other two of the Warriors teams that won it all. So that's a big sign for the Boston defense. And then on the other side, one of the high take answers is the Lakers. And if you look at the Lakers since the trade

deadline, they've been the best defense in the Western Conference big cat. And so when they won it all in the bubble, again, which I know you guys have a strong count. I don't remember, doesn't count, don't recall, doesn't count. Yeah. So COVID? Yeah. What's that? COVID's over. The Lakers, the Lakers defense and I'll throw, Jesus, tough to find a second one, which might be the takeaway. It's Memphis, but they're banged up. Memphis built around Jared Jackson, who is the human personal foul, but also the best friend protectively is able to stay in games. But the big thing with Memphis's defense is without Stephen Jackson and without Brandon Clark, we're both out. Jared Jackson has to stay out of foul trouble or else we're going to see dudes like Xavier Tillman

or Kenneth Loft and our favorite trying to stop LeBron and AD. So I don't know if I trust that one because of injury problems, but the right answer is Los Angeles and Memphis on the West. When you say Lakers, I know that the, like all the numbers say it, but is it fair to say that LeBron might be the weak link on their defense? Cause I, maybe it's just, he knows how to coast, but there were times on, on Tuesday night where he was just standing in the paint and his guy was standing out on the three point line, getting free threes. Like he just doesn't, sometimes it feels like he takes quarters or possessions, long stretches where he's like, I'm not going to play defense. I'm going to focus on offense and I'll worry about the defense later. Is it fair to say

though that he would be the weak link defensively for them, which is crazy. It's, it's, it's the right question. It reminds me of playing pick up and somebody talks to him to play in that fourth or fifth game and you just can't move anymore. And that's what the defense looks like. I was shocked to see LeBron's defense in that playing game. The greatest play of LeBron's career remains a defensive play. He could steal guard almost anyone, but it looks like he's coasting and that's your word. And I think that's fair to say. I'm not saying he's the weak link, but it is age with his mileage and what we saw this week in the playing game. It's fair to question whether he's going to have that sort of defensive stamina that he's had in years past,

where he was in many cases, the best defensive player in a series like this. He's, he's probably not Anthony Davis is great deodorant on the backside for that team. He'll clean up a lot of the messes. But yeah, LeBron as a defender, probably not what he was in his peak. It's interesting because you can spin that and say, well, if their weak link on defense is LeBron James, they're pretty fucking good defense. Well, they put this, yeah, they put this up PFT with the, they put up these incredible record at 19 and nine since the trade deadline. That's 68% winning percentage will be better than every team in the league except Milwaukee and Boston over the course of the year. But what a lot of people forget is they did that without LeBron most of the games.

That's to me the scariest thing. It's like, okay, now you're adding LeBron, the quote unquote weak leak on defense to a team that was really good after the trade deadline. So I think when people joke about ESPN loving the Lakers, dude, LeBron's been to nine of the last 12 finals. It's not like a hot take to say that they might have a run in them here. He wins his conference more than he doesn't since like 2010. So the top of the West is sketchy. And if you're Durant or if you're Kawhi or if you're Steph and certainly if you're LeBron James, you're not afraid of those top three seed. So I think it's just a fascinating bracket in the Western Conference and LeBron James might be the most interesting person in the whole thing.

Well, I heard two things. I heard the, if the weak link is LeBron James on defense, that's pretty good for the Lakers. And I also heard that the Lakers might be better without LeBron James because they're so good since the trade deadline when he hasn't been playing. Actually it was the 23 most important games on LeBron James career in that by sitting out, he made his team better. He really pulled out all the, he went zero dark 30 on the court this time. I totally forgot about that quote, but it sort of rings true. And maybe, you know, he sat out because he had to, but the team like got into shape and became good. And now they have him. I think those were among the most, at least in later LeBron history, like,

they're a scary team. They were not a scary team in January. They were a bad team. I just started two and 10. They were terrible. Now they're, now they're scary. I just want them to be washed up. It's not fair. He's fucking, they're going to be 39. Like he can't, he can't keep doing this. Can't keep getting away with this. I love it. It, to me, it reminds me of an old school Brady season. I mean, in old school, like six years ago when he was 39 or whatever. You're going to be, you're going to be sad when it's gone. And it's not going to give you guys the content that you want when he's gone.

And this could be literally one of the most important post seasons of his incredible career if he's able to make noise and get this team over. But, you know, he's the all time leading scorer. He's not even known as a scorer. He's an incredible playmaker, a great defender when he has the juice. And Memphis is just, the one thing I'm looking, I'll bring it back to Jaren Jackson is if LeBron and AD can do anything on offense, it's pressure the heck out of the rim. Jaren Jackson is the best rim protector in the league. And he's the most important, important person in that series, guys, because I said, he's always in fact, I'll trouble their defensive front court is thinned out because of the injuries

I mentioned the Jackson, Steven, and Adams, I should say, and to Brandon Clark. But if they get Jaren Jackson and foul trouble with in LeBron's getting whistles, because you guys know this stat too, that free throw differential stat. I've heard you guys throw around. That's a real thing. They get whistles. Sometimes you can say it's conspiracy, but others say it's just because they, they pressure the rim and they're very difficult to guard. Either way, Jaren Jackson's foul trouble is the thing to watch with that series. If he's able to play 40 minutes a game, I like Memphis. If he's in foul trouble, I'll take the Lakers. So officially the Kirk Goldsbury notice is you're putting, you're putting the Grizzlies on notice.

I'm putting the Grizzlies on upset notice PFT. In part because I love Steven Adams, who is like the full back of the NBA. He is a incredible rebounder and this team did two things. Memphis Grizzlies aside from defense on offense, they did two things very well with Adams. They were great in transition. That's still there, but they led the league in second chance points because he was the best offensive rebounder in the league without him. They're struggling in their half court offense because they don't have those second chance points. And, and I just, you know, I wish they were whole because they were so good, but, but with this thinned out version, the Lakers have a real shot of upsetting them in this 7-2 matchup.

Okay. So my last question, we did you kind of dirty last year. Actually you did yourself dirty when you said the Nets were the best offense you've ever seen. It was maybe two years ago, and then they got a bounce from the playoffs. So I'll let you do a finals prediction and I'll let you do a backup finals prediction. And then if either of them become true, we will post it. Our word, we will post it and be like, look, Kirk is a genius. He got it right. He did it again. Holy shit. So first finals prediction. First finals prediction is a 2021 rematch. Bucks, Sons, and I love both teams assuming health. Chris Middleton, I'm watching, gosh, got to get through the first, second, third, fourth rounds. If you're going to win the title,

Chris Middleton is, is a hugely important piece. We've gone over that same, obviously, with Dorian and Chris Paul. I think if either of those guys has to miss games, which is reasonable to expect, unfortunately, that sons prediction would fall apart pretty fast. There's just too many other teams out there that can beat them. So my first sons, my first sons, Bucks, and I take the Bucks in that matchup. Okay. And then your second prediction that we will put out there if sons Bucks doesn't happen. My second prediction and I'll pause so you can edit it out. Yeah. Let me reset. I'll reset for you. Hey, Kirk, my Roback question. Last question. Roback.com, use code take for 20% off your first purchase. Q zips, polos, hoodies, roback.com, R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com,

use code take for 20% off your first purchase. Kirk, who do you have, your Roback question, who do you have in the finals? Well, thanks for sending me all the Roback. I'm going to go with a 2022 finals rematch of the Celtics and Warriors. I mean, I just, I think that this season has, has been a one big sort of mirage. And these are the two best teams in the league. So I'm going to go Celtics and Warriors. And this time, guys, I'm taking the Celtics. Oh, okay. Do you want to give them a third shot? Yeah. Do you want a third shot? Hey, Kirk. Yeah, yeah. This is the Roback plus question. Roback plus. We're giving an additional 20% off. They're already low, low prices with promo code take. We'll send you some. You're going to love it. Who do you have in the NBA finals

this year? And who do you think is going to win? Great question. I'm glad you asked me, PFT. And without a doubt, I think this year's finals is going to be a battle of these MVP big men. It's going to be the 76ers against the Nuggets. Wow. Embiid, Yoko, centers are back. I have an article on ESPN talking about it. Centers are back and I'm taking Joel Embiid and the sticksters to win their first title since 1983. Wow. So ending a 40-year drought, you can just book it. It's a solid NBA finals prediction right there. They should bet the MVP on that series. If it does come down to like Yoko going up against Embiid, it's like winner gets the MVP. Yeah. I mean, I still don't understand why the MVP is awarded for the regular season. I get it. It's a regular season award,

but the one that really gets me going is there's this new clutch award that they're handing out for regular season. I'm like, can we at least hang on to that one until we see Ray Allen make a shot or Kyrie Irwin get a shot in game seven? Be like, you know who was the most clutch player this season? Yeah, the guy who won the finals with a three-point shot. Yeah. Yeah. But I agree with you. If those guys maintain the finals, hey, it's great for centers. And B, they should just play for the MVP trophy. Great idea. So Kirk, my last question, it's been a chaotic NBA season. What's your chaotic NBA finals prediction? Oh, without a doubt, it would be the Cleveland Cavaliers playing. Are you ready for this, guys? Yeah. The Memphis Grizzly. Oh. The NBA's dream come true series,

Cleveland versus Memphis. I would actually love to see the Cavs versus the Lakers in the finals. How cool is that? Oh, that would rule. There are some potential great matchups. I mean, obviously Celtics Lakers is in play and they would be battling for the 19th banner because they're both hanging there at 18. And that would be a cool thing. I think it's either 18 or 19. They're both sitting on the same number, 17 or 18, forgive me. But that would be cool. Anytime you can get, you know, Steph and Kyrie, Kevin Durant or LeBron James in the final, the leagues and the casual fans are thrilled. And you know, I think the top of the east, you can't go wrong with the top three or four teams in the east getting the finals. I'm now rooting for Kings Cavs.

Oh, I'm rooting for Kings Cavs. I'm rooting for the Nets. How awesome would that be if this year the Nets were great? Yeah, we made every team in the NBA except for the Nets. I actually think this year's Nets is the best offense in history. All right. Well, Kirk, thank you so much. I'm sure we'll talk to you as the playoffs progress, but we appreciate your time as always, man. Thank you guys for having me on. Enjoy the games. Kirk Goldsbury is brought to you by 3G. I'm not a drug guy, but I am a 3G guy. And of all the things in life, one of the best has to be getting high wherever you want, whenever you want, without the paranoia of consuming some sketchy black market bunk. 3G is wonderful. Had some 3G out of

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year, but this starts to like, when both first rounds are going and you have like seven playoff games every single night for that two week stretch, it fucking rule. Playoff hockey is the best. Hockey, playoff hockey over time. It's just different. Yeah. Especially when it's like every night because every night there will be two games back to back. One of them is going to go to overtime and then you just can't, you can't replicate that. Hold on to your butt. And are you a little nervous about the Islanders? Because that would be quite unfortunate for memes because you know, no, I'm all in on this team. This team is different. They're the greatest hockey team I've ever watched in the regular season. They're the greatest regular season team of all time.

They're going to dominate. They're going to run through these playoffs. This sounds like it would be a historic choke job. If you guys didn't win the Stanley Cup, it sounds like an 18 and one scenario. Where's memes? Cause he listening right now. The Islanders are the Panthers, by the way. He's not a guarantee. Come in. If it is Islanders Bruins, we'll have to have a one minute recap from memes after every game. But I just want to, I want to see what his thought is if he, if he thinks they could actually beat the Bruins, we'll know right away. His face will tell us. It's the playoffs. It's a playoff. Anything could happen. Hot goalie. Islanders have a really good goal. Yeah. Listen, if the Islanders goalie stands on his head, you're not afraid of him

staying on his head, Hank. No, I'd be best. Got an all time Twitter notes app from a one seat losing in the first round. Yeah, that's true. About with the lightning. That's true. What is it again? Memes. We're talking about the hockey playoffs. And what is it? If the Panthers win tonight, Panthers win, they face the Hurricanes. Okay. And if they lose, then you guys can get a point. I'm not sure. Okay. Yeah, they could get a point. So they get one point. You guys are facing the Bruins. Yes. Do you think you can beat the Bruins? Anything's possible, but the Bruins are okay. That was very good. All right. Well, when, when, when that series does happen, we'll have you do a minute recap after every game. Do you guys have a good goalie though? Goallie's

stud, right? Goallie's stud. That's, that's all you need. Worst power play in the league. Power play is important. Yeah. Goallie's stud. But it's the playoffs now. It's different. New season. New season. Playoff hockey is best. I really hope the Panthers lose. Oh, okay. All right. So that even tells us even more that there you got no shot against the Bruins. No shot. Oh, no. Okay. All right. Thank you, Memes. That was, I was hoping you would have a little bit of, he's realistic. Memes is electric. What do you guys do? What do you got, Memes? What last thing? He's not over. Hopefully Panthers lose. Okay. All right. So yeah, that's a no shot. That was a vote of no confidence right there in the Islanders beating the Bruins. Memes definitely

thinks and memes instead of words. Yeah. If you were to ask him to give him, give a meme of what he thinks about the first round, it would be, it would paint a thousand times more clear of a picture of what he just said. When we asked him, can the kid, like the Islanders versus the Bruins thoughts, he was just doing the Michael Scott. No. Oh wait, he's got another one. He's got another one. And if the Panthers lose, the Islanders could potentially play the Rangers. I would love that. That would be, that would be, that would devastate you though. What? If you lost to the Rangers. Oh yeah, that would suck. Okay. Yeah. But if you eliminate them. Yeah. If you beat them, that would rule. Oh, it'd be the best. Yeah. Can you describe your

playoff opportunity, your, your chances in a meme? In a meme? Without Alonzo morning, shaking his head. No. And then maybe Jim, Jim, Kerry, dumb and dumber. Yeah. You're saying there's a chance or the one where Jeff Daniels shits into the toilet and dumb and dumber. Yeah. Yeah. There's a chance, but better chance of Panthers lose. Okay. All right. So you guys are going to get steep, steamrolled by the Bruins. Yes. That's a yes. Okay. All right. Firefest. Those are like, those are pre pre hockey preview. Sometimes more potent than the actual. Yes. Hank, Firefest the week. I think you guys can guess what it is. Well, it's that time of year. What? Taxes. Oh, yeah. I thought it was going to be shorts for sure. Dude, you got to get on the

fucking. No, shorts are back. Firefester. Yeah. It's never a firefight. You got to get yourself on the extension. I've been living on the extension for like six years now, because if you get on it once, then you just stay on it. Then October 15th becomes your new tax day. Yeah. It also depends on like, like I'm on the extension for a real reason, but I think you can probably just ask for an extension. Wait, what's your real reason? Swansea. They released the, whatever it is, K1's way later. And so they put me on the, on the extension. Hank, you probably don't even have to pay taxes though. You probably got a tax guy. Well, I do. And they've been asking me. Is it Jersey Cherry? Oh, they've been asking me for documents. And it's kind of like, they're like,

if I don't send them what they need, then they can't do them. I've sent it to them today, but it's like, fuck. Taxes are pretty much optional anyway. I just don't like them. Not a fan. No, they suck. They should just make it automatic. I guess it kind of is out of your paycheck. Yeah. But that's the thing. Then it's still, it's not. Yeah. You remember when you went like seven years without paying your taxes? Yeah. No, that's false. No, seven years without filing your taxes. Yeah. Cause he was going to get paid money back. There was one year. Hypothetically as a bit. You forgot. But I totally did. Was that a forget? If the IRS is listening. Was that a forgetful thing? We have to have some AWOs in the IRS. They have to be listening to this right

now. Help us out. But the thing is, like, if they're looking, they're going to check the books and it's going to be like a plus next to my name. Like, Oh, we actually owe him. Right. That's what I was making. No money. And I would get like money back on my taxes. So but I did them. That's a joke. You like paid extra money to the government. They owe you money. Right. They do. Yeah. Let's do something about it. Billy, you know any buildings we could, we could approach to talk about this? Oh, yeah. Couple. There's one. There's a couple. Oh, but yeah, just fuck taxes forever. Yeah. All right. Great. But we pay him on this show. Same. You know, I'm saying this show as a show, we pay them. Right. We don't

like them, but we pay them because we're adults. Max is shaking his head. That makes me think he's not paying his taxes. I you're not paying your taxes. No, I am. I just don't like paying them. Have you ever not paid them? No, I pay them every time. But I don't, I always, whatever. Okay. Good answer. It's a bad week. There's a lot of people listening to me like fuck. My taxes were easy this year, which means that they sucked because they like took all the money. Right. I hadn't even thought about filing these taxes yet. Well, we have good news. Yeah. So extension till Monday at least. Right. Yeah. So I feel like tax day has been on a weekend for the last several years. You've been a hot streak. All you have to do is just be like, Hey, can I have

an extension? And then they say yes. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. And then you don't have to worry about it for six months. Yeah. But then that's football season. Just tougher. That is tougher. But then you have to go through the process of filing the extension and then you may as well just do your taxes if you're going to. Good point. Good point. Good point. Good point. Good point. All right. Well, Hank, good luck to you on your taxes. Hopefully you pay him this year. Did any of you guys do any loss harvesting? Don't know what that means. What's that a euphemism for? Yeah. Never mind. I did all this shit confuses the fuck out of me. Max did. Yeah. Max did a lot of losses. Are your losses too tough? Oh, man. Hank had the biggest shit he could even think that was

funny. He was just like, nice. Yeah. Yeah. You harvest so many losses, Max. You could probably deduct the Super Bowl ticket. Yeah. Yeah. That would be great. No, not you. Not you. What do you mean? I paid for the Super Bowl ticket. You did. But then I paid for futures that didn't hit and you could have picked UConn. Okay. You could have. I know that I could have, but I didn't and Max Homer also sucks. Hey, hey. Come on. I didn't mean that. I didn't mean that. I'm gonna cut that part. Come on. No, don't cut that part. Leave it in because we need to, you know, how could you? No, no, I'll keep it in. But I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I didn't mean it. Used to be such a good boy. Come on. All right, P.F.T. Firefest of the week is Firefest. Oh, yeah. Firefest is back.

Billy McFarland has announced Firefest 2 and he's looking for a select group of influencers to invite to Firefest 2. So he learned his lesson from doing time with the situation in jail. Yep. And he learned a valuable lesson and he's just going to do Firefest again. That's what he learned is he didn't do it as good the first time. Didn't make as big promises as he could have the first time. So he's running it back this summer. So I would like to be invited to Firefest 2. Yeah. This summer? Is not this summer? I don't know. That seems like it's around the corner. I would just, I would like to be invited to Firefest 2. Invite us to Firefest 2. In fact, I have FOMO that I didn't go to Firefest 1. I don't think we should give that guy publicity. Yeah, you're

right. Let's not platform him Billy. Let's not do that. Let's not platform him. I would hate to have a liar named Billy on this show. I have another Firefest. Is that I'm fat? No, you're not. So there's that picture that came out or some, you know, some screenshots of the video of the Chevy ad that we did over the course of Super Bowl week. You look strong. I look strong. I look powerful. I look like I have a dad bod minus the kids. And I just want to say one of those putty things that you squeeze. Yeah. Okay. That's all right. We got it. We got the picture. You freak. So Hank's a chubby chaser now. If you're fat, yeah, that means he's got a tight. Yep. That's true. Yes. Podcasts should just all get super fat. That'd be awesome. But I do have an explanation

for it. There's a perfectly good explanation for why I was fat. Okay. Sure. Because I told you what? What is it? It was a video. Okay. In the screenshots. Cut your own mic off and shut the fuck up. I was, I told this story on the show, but I did the cool sculpting thing because I've got one small layer of fat that was around the very small of my belly underneath my belly button. So they cool sculpted me and they melted away the fat, but they didn't tell me at the time. Well, maybe they did. I chose to ignore is that your stomach swells up big time after you do that. So that was like two weeks, maybe like a week after I got the cool sculpting done. And I just, I look fat as fuck. What about your face? Did they sculpt your face?

They didn't sculpt my face. My face looked not as, it looked normal fat. Okay. It wasn't like over the top. I don't think you're fat. Thank you, big guy. Yeah, I appreciate it. So let the record show I'm not fat. I think you're in strong, powerful, can lift many things over your head. I can probably run a marathon. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So I'm not fat. I want the record to show that I'm not fat despite the fake news that Hank puts out. Do you just like poop out all that fat that gets frozen off? Like, where does it go? You piss it out. So it goes into your lymphatic system and then you have to chug a bunch of water and then you just, you piss it out. Yeah. Science. All right. My firefest is I was challenged to run a mile this week. I did it.

People were saying I couldn't do it under 10 minutes. I did 724. I'll say 740 because there was some talk that the track might have, it might not have been as long as we thought. Either way, it's a woken up beast in me that I'm going to try to, I'm going to try to get back fully into shape and I'm going to, I'm going to try to do the 1,000 pound club, Billy. And I'm going to get injured. I'm going to get injured. Yeah. There's no way I don't get injured, but I want to try. Hex bar? Hex bar? Hex bar or straight? But yeah. Hex bar is healthier. Oh, the one that's on the sides. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So I'll do that. Yeah. Hex bar, it's deadlift, squat, bench, 1,000 pounds. You easily could get there.

I have a bad back and I'm 38 years old and I'm out of shape. Hex bar? Hex bar? You should never deadlift over the age of 35. Could you do 1,000 pound club today, Billy? Probably not. I actually think I might be able to. What do you squat? I'm still like, I probably could get like 375. Oh, then you could. Yeah. Because it's really, if you can squat and bench, like, like combined 550, you should be able to do it. I think I was around at my max, like 1,300. Oh, sick. I was back when I was like putting 500 pounds on my back. Either way, I'm going to challenge myself and I'm going to get hurt and that's going to suck. It's definitely going to lead to a back injury. Yeah. We're just clipped. I hope it doesn't, but I'm warning you as a friend. No,

it's not a fence. What you're saying is true. You're going to be able to bench. Correct. 250. You're going to be able to squat 300 and you're going to try to do the deadlift and that's going to fuck you up. So I'm going to try. It's probably going to take like a year. No, I think we can get you there in three months. I'm 38, not a shame. Yeah, but like there's, you know, a lot of resources. No, I'm not doing, I'm doing it all natural. No, no, no, no. Are you going to let Billy inject you with anything? No, I'm going to do it. It's either all natural or can't do it. What about supplements? I thought about letting Billy inject me with B12. He was, he was giving me the, the pitch the other day and L carnitine B12. It wasn't the worst pitch. You know, tons of stuff we can give you

that'll get you going. It sounds good in the moment when he's just, you can inject you, you can put on the mask. Once you reach the point where Billy is sticking a hypodermic needle into your arm and then injecting liquid into it and you don't know what it is, that's a very scary moment. That's a big time. Like I'm wondering how I got here in my life moment. Hey dude, did you get surgery on your elbow? I did not. Here's what I'm going to do. If I can't do it, I'm just going to say I can't do it. I'm not going to push myself to the absolute limit. Well, you could dirty bulk and like you may be 400 pounds. I think I'm always doing a thousand pounds. I think I'm, oh, I think I've never not been dirty. Okay. Here's

a strategy for you. You could just, you could eat a lot. Yeah. You could eat a lot of snacks. Yeah. What do you think about that? Have you ever tried doing that? Like you could get up to like maybe donuts? Have you? Yeah. Have you ever tried snacking a lot? Yeah. Maybe Chinese food every Sunday night. Strong man. Cheetos. I know, I know, I know. But higher protein. Yeah. All right, we'll see. And then my other fire fest is my son's doing this new thing where he just hits me and then he's like, you know, I love you so much. And then so I feel like I'm living with like an abusive boyfriend. That's like, that's like, that's like Hasbulla and his cat. Yeah. No, he literally would like, it's not like he's hitting me hard. He'll like slap me on the leg and just be like,

Dad, you know, I love you. And I'm like, Jesus Christ. He's like my pimp. That's guys being dudes. Yeah. He's just walking around like, you know, no one makes me feel the way I have to hurt you. Like, I just, you know, I'm crazy about you. Like that's why I feel every day. Why did you make me do this? So it's nice little face. Billy. First fire fest is that it's currently that time of year where you don't know whether to put the whole AC unit in yet, but it's really hot. So but you're too lazy to put it in yet. And it's like, is it really summer yet? So you're just like sweating through the night? Yeah, this is, I do love this time of year. We're like, I was talking to someone a couple of days ago. I don't know how people live. I know that like living

in Florida is awesome. Living in LA is awesome. Shut up, Hank. The seasons are awesome. Those first few days of spring make you feel something that like is so different than if every day was just beautiful. Yeah. And I know people like, Oh, this is just your way of coping with winter. Spring, those first like 50, 60 degree days are the best sundress season. Yeah. Big time. What? Seasonal aggression. Yeah. Seasonal aggression disorder. Billy gets angry or when he gets angry, just get hyper. There is something to that because my first summer in New York, I was like, you know, I was moving from Austin. So I thought I was like immune to the sun up here because I just come from Texas. So I was like, you know what, I don't need an AC unit in my

apartment. I'm just going to ride it out. It can't be that hot. You get so mad when you're hot all day. Yes. It does make you pissed off at the world. So I would. And New York heat is different as well. I mean, it's not like Texas heat, but New York heat when it gets really hot and it all just stays on the concrete and it's like hot like nine o'clock. Yeah. The smell, the hot smell. But the heat at like nine o'clock when it's like the sun's down, why the fuck is it still so hot? Yeah. Also with the AC's getting installed, it's mystery water season. When you're walking down the street and you just get hit on the face with mystery water from above, that's how that's the beauty of New York, baby. Best city in the world. Yeah. I've actually, I've on a hot streak of not

getting hit with mystery water because I don't go to Starbucks anymore, go buy still blue coffee. We're taking down big to big corporations. There's that mystery water under that one. Yeah. It hits you all the time. I used to get just dushed. Yeah. That's actually a great sales pitch. Do you want to avoid mystery water? Yeah. Then buy still blue coffee. So Billy, you're, are you putting it in or not? Why wouldn't you just put it in? I like, I'm now in the fan. I just turned the fan on. So it's all, but it's in. You put it in already. What, what temperature are you guys sleeping? Well, I just like it cold as hell. Yeah. Right. I go like 65. Well, because I kind of, I kind of misplaced my AC unit. Okay. So that's a different fire. That would be the

fire fest. I put it somewhere. I put it somewhere and now I can't find it. Okay. So that is the fire. So you can't, your fire fest is you can't decide whether or not you want to look for your AC unit. Yeah. I was looking for it, but like, you know, busy week. So you were going to put it in. Yeah. So that's not the fire fest. It is time to put it in. I think it's time to put it in if you can find it. Yeah. Anyone who knows where their AC is put it in. Yeah. I just got the fan going. You know, the fan's going to be going until like October. So you're just giving up on AC this summer. I might. Okay. You know what this is? This is Billy making a pre excuse for something, for basically everything. Yeah. I was really, yeah, I was really hot. Sweaty. So hot. Okay.

Other fire fest. I have a black eye from playing basketball. Yeah. Yeah, you do. Yeah. So what happened? Heard you got to how to get separated with some of that? That's not what happened. That's not what happened at all. No, I just got an elbow to the face rebounding. But did you get separated? No. Let me just tell you something, Billy. I will say this. The kid was fucking crying because Billy threw him to the ground like a bag of bones, which he was. And there was no foul. I didn't throw. No foul, no harm. The kid hooked my arm and he hooked it. Hook and hold. That's a technical free throw. He was giving me this. Yeah, that's a technical free throw. So I threw my arm down and he got thrown and then he started bitching about and I was just like, then I started

yelling at him. If you didn't hook my arm, you wouldn't be on the floor. All right. So I'm going to rule this on your side. 100%. Yeah. No foul, no harm. Did they blow the whistle? No. This other guy who hopefully is listening, there's definitely a point in his life. He's also wearing a long sleeve white turd on that. That's not shit on people we play pick up. No, but there's definitely a point in your life. He was being aggressive for no reason. Where you have to realize you're playing like intramurals or whatever. Have fun. Don't take it that seriously because you don't want to be the adult that gets in an adult fight at a softball field or basketball court. The only other thing I'll say not to, not to, I guess Billy, Billy's worried about his feelings. He was being aggressive

and then at the end of the game, we were down by like five or six. We had to foul. It was like we were down five or six with a minute left. We found the game. He was like, chill out, chill out, chill out. It was like, we're, we're, you guys lose. We lost a shit. We were down by 27 and we brought it back in within five. Well, yeah, they weren't trying this hard because they're up 27. We never stopped the fight. No. To tell you the truth, I don't think I want you on the show anymore. If you ever reach a point where you don't get involved in pickup basketball fights. I do take pickup. I go hard in the paint. You're fired. You're fired. I guess it is longer than a year without getting into a fight on some sort of playground. You're fucking out. It is different

because this job, you can just show up with a black eye. I remember vividly being like in arguments in intramurals when I was working in a real job and being like, I don't want to get punched in the face and show up to work with a black eye because that's a whole fucking deal. No, I didn't get punched in the face. This is totally unrelated to the, to that incident. Oh, so you got punched in the face in a different? No, I, that was actually Nick Mulcahy. Awesome, dude. We were talking in a timeout and we were getting beat pretty bad. Like we got to go hard in the paint, like get more offensive rebounds, like get some more boards and we both got pumped up and then we both went for an offensive rebound and I caught an elbow. Friendly fire. Friendly fire.

But we were like, you know, we were going hard. Okay. But yeah, I just, you know, shout out that guy. He's actually, he was pretty wet. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. What are you doing? I don't want this guy, I don't want people to be playing us and pick up and be like, oh shit, like I don't want to end up on part of my take. I think that's, no one knows who he is. I know, whatever. No one should be, no one should be judged for their actions when their heart rates over 150 beats per minute. I agree with that. That's what I believe. I agree with that. Like, you know, because, you know, we're all human. That could be, that could get you into some trouble. There's definitely some situations that someone could get their heart rate that fast. I'm pretty

sure most times people commit murder, their heart rate is about 150 beats per minute. Some very violent crimes that are committed at a heart rate over 150. Yeah. It makes you sound guilty. Anybody that's on meth, like if you don't want to get arrested, just do a line of cocaine. Officer. Officer 50. Look at my Apple watch. No, fuck this dude, Billy. Fuck this. When your heart rate's high. Fuck this dude. You know, we made up after the game. It's fine. You kiss? Yeah, we kiss. Okay, nice. All right. Jake, finish us off. First up, self-correction. The Panthers have to win tonight. A point doesn't do. You'll still get tweets about that. Yeah, no. And then I'll be like,

did you listen to full podcast? A lot of people do that. They just, they don't listen to full podcast. Yeah, we're going to implement a new system going forward in the fall where we do corrections at the end and people should save their tweets. We don't want to kill any golfers, dads on the show. Yeah. So we're going to have to have no one corrected you on that. Oh, no, no one did. I mean, it's a hard thing to correct. Oh, I thought you meant on line before we stopped recording. It's a hard thing to call out and be like, no, he's alive. And then you get, like, then you extend the conversation about a maybe not dead dad. Yep. Yeah. And then my firefest is he's alive, by the way. He is very much alive. He's he's the best alive person ever.

He is the most alive guy right now in the world. Yes. My hometown of Fort Lauderdale is under water. Did you guys hear about this? Oh, yeah, that was bad. Oh, stranded cars. That was bad. It was not great. So hopefully credit to me for not making a joke before I found out that Jake was being serious about it. Yeah. Yeah. I was plenty of room to sorry. I know that one. Yeah. Well, it'll be okay. It'll be okay. Oh, trying to think of a non offensive. Well, no, you know what? It is bullshit because everyone has to say like, oh, thoughts and prayers, but then all the Florida people make fun of us for dealing with winter. Yeah. I'm still going to say that's not right. That's not right. That's not right flood plain.

Yeah. That's not right. They do that. They do do Florida people like, oh, how was shoveling snow this winter? Can I say the same thing when the whole town floods? Am I allowed to? I didn't do the research on if anyone got hurt or anything. So I think that's like the first benchmark. Like if everyone's safe, I feel like there's a little more of a leash. What about three deaths? No. Okay. I asked that was just a question. Zero one. Zero one. No, like zero. You have a little more leeway if there's one or above. Got it. What if it's their fault? Yeah. What if someone took a big dump or what if they were flooding and it flooded Fort Lauderdale? What if it's Casey Anthony and she drowned? Yeah. What is baby Hitler swimming in a pool?

Good point. And more water comes up. There's some exception. Babies can float. Yeah. Okay. Well, what if the flood comes over the pool? Yeah. Then I'd say I hope that this flood killed baby Hitler. Yeah. And no one else and no one else, but we do hope people are okay. Yes. That was pretty crazy. I saw Jeff Tarlington tweeted our friend Jeff Tarlington tweeted a video of like just water just washing through this person's house. Yeah. That's awful. Yeah. Unless baby Hitler's there. Yeah. Yeah. Baby Hitler was in that basement. Good. Happy to have the water went there. Okay. Hank, have you ever gotten this? What? The lottery ball. No. Are we going to make you those golf balls with lottery balls on them?

Taylor made it to respond. Oh man. How are you feeling? I feel like you've given up. Have you given up? No. You seem really down about this. Never surrender. You're very down about it. Oh, you're very down about this right now. No, I'm up. If it's up, then it's stuck. All right. Numbers. 16. 17. 18. 73. Whoa. Where'd that come from? I asked chap GPT. All right. That doesn't count. I'll go with 20. I'm going to go with 24. What did you guess, Hank? 17.

44. 44. Mike, I'll stop. Damn. 40. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Low key. There's a meteorite that crashed in Maine. If you have any leads on it, hit me up. Wait, did it happen or was it? Low key. It crashed. So, high key. High key. A meteorite crash. Where is it going? We don't know. But yeah, I might go look for it. Go. Right now, leave. Go. I mean, it's the weekend. I'm going to start planning. It's Thursday. It's 440 on a Thursday. Love you guys. Oh, also, bacteria may have come from a meteorite in life on Earth, maybe from a meteorite. This doesn't count. People have been asking for a full list,

so I think I'm going to tweet out a link with a full list of numbers. Oh, perfect. Yeah. And replied, oh, that's too bad. You're already on your weekend. I work from home on Friday.