Pardon My Take - Day 1 Of The NCAA Tournament, Kentucky's Stunning Loss With Matt Jones, Friday Gambling Picks With Stanford Steve + Fyre Fest Of The Week

Episode Date: March 22, 2024

Day 1 of March Madness is in the books and Jack Gohlke has stolen the hearts of America. 11 seeds and the Pac 12 had a day (00:00:00-00:14:52) and we talk about the weird Shohei Ohtani story (00:14:52-00:26:29). Matt Jones from Kentucky Sports Radio joins us to give us the inside scoop of where Kentucky is at as a program and whether or not Coach Cal will survive another March Madness disappointment (00:26:29-00:46:26). Stanford Steve then joins the show to break down all of Friday's slate, best bets and tourney storylines (00:46:26-01:31:12). We then finish the show with Fyre Fest of the week (01:31:12-01:47:04).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. On today's pardon my take day one of March Madness in the books, we're going to talk about all the games. Kentucky's stunning loss. We brought on our good friend Matt Jones from Kentucky Sports Radio to talk about what's happening in Kentucky. Will Cal survive this? If he doesn't, who could possibly coach the Wildcats? We get the inside scoop from Big Blue Nation. We also have our good friend, Stanford Steve on to give you some Friday picks. So we talked tourney with Stanford Steve, some picks that you're going to be watching

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Golden Grizzlies, I knew that. Take down Kentucky in the one true stunner from day one of March Madness. Jack Goukey hit 10 threes. From Michigan, Oakland is. Yes, from Detroit. Hit 10 threes, he was the perfect. Wait, really?

Yeah, I did not know that until just now. I was looking up Jack Goukis stats before we started the podcast and I was like, Oh, I guess he played small ball in Michigan somewhere. Then he moved out to California. He's actually from Pee-Wocky. Yeah. It was home of Derek Watt. Yes. And JJ Watt and TJ Watt. Yes. Uh, yeah. It is in Michigan. That guy could not miss. It was incredible. He was double teamed. He was coming off screens with no daylight, just sinking everything. That was, it was so much fun. Yeah. He is the perfect March Madness guy. He has taken a total of eight two-pointers all season

long. One of the coolest stats out there. He didn't take a single one. He was shooting shots that he should, no one should be shooting, fully covered, just draining threes. That was perfectly March Madness. And he had a quote after where he was like, I know that they have a bunch of NBA guys. I know that I'm not going to be playing in the NBA, but on any given day I can compete with those types of guys. That's what March Madness is.

This guy is going to absolutely rock some like men's league basketball. And he was, yeah, he's perfect because he already looks like a men's league basketball player because he's kind of got like a little bit of the male pattern baldness starting. His head is huge. He's got a little Derek Carr in him. Yeah. And I hope it keeps going. I hope so.

Because, well, actually, we'll see because we're basically have a matchup of America's Sweethearts in the second round now because it's Jack Goukey and the Oakland Golden Grizzlies going up against the team that just cannot lose right now in NC State. Yeah. They did it again. Two very fun teams. Yeah, they've won six straight, well, six straight tournament games because they won five straight ACC tournament games and now they've won their first tournament game, I

think it was since Fluke Girl. Really? Yeah yeah against Villanova they showed they showed they showed that they always find a way to show I wonder what flu girls doing these days yeah she I hope that she was able to like overcome her she was everywhere right after that for like years and I think maybe when Villanova won the championship I feel like that was her redemption story. Yeah. Where it's like, okay, now I'm not going to get brought up all the time. Max, you know the flip girl? No, I don't.

But they made a, they put her in that commercial basically. Yeah, no, they show her every single tournament. They have a clarinet player crying. Yeah, they have a fake flip girl. Yeah. But that was the first time NC State won a tournament game since then. But that is a, it's just, this is what we watched for. The tournament, you don't know who's going to become the hero out of nowhere. I did try to get everyone on Samford. They were

absolutely robbed at the end of the game against Kansas where they had a perfect block called a foul and ended up losing the game. But like you just, that's the beauty of the tournament. You don't know what team is going to pop up and have everyone talking about them and Now we have Oakland versus NC State What the winner of that game is going to be the talk of the week leading up to sweet 16 because it'll be a great story Either way, they're two very fun teams root for and NC State with DJ burns Sexy red that dude. He's a big dude, but he moves his feet. He's like a ballerina on his feet. He's a great passer, soft touch. You can't root against him and

then you can't root against Golke. So I don't know, just take the over in the next game. I don't want, I want, there should be, there should be a rule where two of like, uh, the Cinderella's that have very fun players on them. If they both get matched up with each other in the second round, there there should be you should be able to Float one spot. Yeah, you float one spot because I don't want either of those two guys to go home I want to get more of those dudes in the tournament Did you see there was a very very funny quote after Arizona Arizona beat the fuck out of Long Beach State Yes, very funny quote from the athletic director at Long Beach State fired Dan Munson

He fired Dan Munson or their conference fired Dan Munson. He fired Dan Munson. Before their conference term. Dan Munson kept coming into work. Which. Kept winning. Also was very funny about it, because Dan Munson had a great quote where he said the day after he got fired, he went into a film study with his team.

And he's like, you see this close out, guys? This is what gets coaches fired. Yeah. And they all laughed. And they're like, yeah. It's great. That hits hard. So the athletic director said the timing of his decision to part ways with

Dan Munson was done with the hope that it might trigger the exact run that led the team on unexpected. So March madness. Here's the direct quote from ready. My belief and hope is that by doing what I did and the timing of it, they would play inspired and that's what they did. I'm not trying to pat myself on the back, but it worked. Bullshit. That's what a piece. I'm not trying to pat myself on the back, but it worked. Bullshit. Bullshit.

That's what a piece of shit that guy is. Yeah. Long Beach put a little scare into Arizona for a minute there. We had a couple scares, but it was really just about Oakland and Kentucky. And then the other big winner of the day I thought was the Pac-12. Washington State beat Drake. Drake, now this is just their MO. They get in the tournament, they get a lead at the end of a game and then they just stop scoring and lose that game. The exact same thing happened to them last year against Miami. So Arizona, Washington state, and then we had obviously Colorado one on Wednesday night. And then I'm going to mention it again with Matt Jones,

but Dana Altman, my most underrated coach in America. I love how he coaches basketball. Dana Altman in the Oregon Ducks, similar run to NC State, wouldn't have been in the tournament, win the Pac-12 tournament. Fun fact, Dana Altman is now 8-0 in first round NCAA tournament games. He is such a good coach and he has them going every single, like overachieving every single year. And so we have like Dana Altman, Izzo, Izzo did it again. So did it again. Now it's going to be Izzo against UNC, which we talk about with Stanford Steve coming up in a little bit. Not to pat myself on the back, but just wait for that moment. But if Michigan State can win too, then I think all the talk around Izzo is forgotten

because he has done a masterful job of just getting to a point where he doesn't have any expectations in the tournament every year. And then he surpasses those expectations. And it's perfectly Izzo because he has two guards. Like his team has not played well pretty much all year, but he has two guards that when they do want to play well, they're a nightmare for anyone. And that's what he does. And yeah, so it was a great day. I mean, like- Tennessee took care of business too. Tennessee took care of business. Iowa State took care of business. Creighton had a little scare with Akron at the beginning of the game, but they took care of business. Yeah, there was Texas took care of business. All the Colorado state, they caught

Virginia. They got, they got, they got Kavid 19. That was, that was actually more embarrassing for Virginia. Yeah. The fact that they scored 14 points against Colorado state and were in the first half and were the laughing stock of America on Tuesday night. And then Colorado State beat him by 25, showed up to the tournament and scored 11 points in the first. It makes it doubly worse for Cavaliers fans because they were so desperate for one team to lay a giant egg so that they could be like, see, we did belong in the tournament. We're taking all this heat. Other teams can have bad days too. The one team that you couldn't have that happen to was the team that beat you in Colorado State. Yes. We also had... Oh, you called McNeese too. Good call on giving out the McNeese

schedule. Yeah. The Mississippi University of Women. Yeah. Is that what it was? Yeah. They're not McNeffu and McNeese. Biblical studies. Biblical studies. Yeah. They got absolutely whomped. Turns out you got to play a couple of people. Gonzaga looked damn good and now we get a good Kansas-Gonzaga blue blood matchup in the second round. Also, shout out to Duquesne. I hand up I was very wrong about that. I thought that they were, the talk of the seeding was that they shouldn't have been an 11 seed. They proved everyone wrong. All the bid stealers in the Duquesne business. Yeah. Oregon, Duquesne and NC state. Yeah, they were all hot. And uh, so yeah, like they do Kane. I was hand up very wrong.

They played lights out. They held on. It felt like BYU was going to maybe steal it back from them, but they are a tough, tough team. Yeah. So the stat is that number 11 seeds are 27 and 25 in the first round since 2010. Yeah. Which is pretty impressive. You said 11s are the new 12. Yeah, and then number three seeds also dominate the six seeds. Number three seeds in the later rounds are 22 and five. I guess you just don't want to be a six seed.

Yeah. That's the kiss of death. Six seed, well, it kind of makes sense, Cause the sixth seed usually is a team that was had flashes of being good, but probably faded at some point in their schedule. You know what I mean? Like it's that weird. It's kind of what the five seed was for a long time. And yeah, I mean, six seeds had a very bad day. They went on three. Yeah. Very bad. Yeah. Very bad day to be a sixth seed. Uh, yeah. Texas tech got absolutely worked by NC State

Also, we should mention the Dayton comeback we also have a co-worker who went to Dayton Dukes who was literally crying after the company now Dayton was the seventh seed they were underdogs but Yeah, they were they were underdogs. They were two point underdogs, two and a half point underdogs, oh happy birthday to Dave Portnoy. Didn't realize that, he just, Max just pulled up his

Twitter and he had the balloons. Dukes was crying though, Dayton was an incredible, incredible comeback, they basically, what was it like, a 22 run? 56 to 40 on the win probability in Nevada had 99.5% chance. Geez. And Nevada scored four points the rest of the game, seven minutes.

Crazy. I mean, it was an awesome day. I lost a lot of bets, but that's not what it's about. It's about having fun with your friends. It's about the bets that you didn't make that would have lost. Yeah. And when I say having fun with your friends, that's loser talk for someone who doesn't win their bets. Because if I won my bets, I'd be like, it's about winning bets.

It was still fun. It was still a fun day. For, I think, the first time in four years, I'm up after day one. Congrats. I'll take that. That's a huge win. You just got to make positive steps.

Yeah. That's a huge, huge win. Do we miss anyone? I think we hit pretty much all of it. I think you guys hit all of it. But I think this Kansas-S Sanford story is going to just blow over because of the timing of it, but it was a, it was egregious. They would have had numbers the other way to take the lead. Like, yeah,

I think they made that call because he fell hard. That's it. Yeah. That's why they made the call. It was a shout out by the way, to Sanford alum Devlin Hodges duck You remember that Steelers? I love doc. Yeah, he's the only guy that I know that went to Samford That was that was bad. You have every right to be mad online You have every right to go January 6 on the NCAA offices Yes, if you're Sam and I know you can say like oh, there's so many other calls. You shouldn't have been down 20 Yes, but in that moment, that's that's a bad. Yeah I call but also Sanford was dead

They were like capital capital D dead for most of the game And then they just put together this crazy run and you look up and you're like, oh shit, that's still alive Bucky ball they just chuck you boy baby And they and they press and they were just giving up a million points in the paint because would you say that? With some of the upsets the bracket opens up real nice for JMU or Wisconsin? Well, we haven't played our quadrant yet. I'm just saying. Yeah.

Sure. Yeah. Sure. I'm just, I'm all optimism right now. Sure. I haven't kind of beaten out of me yet. Yeah. All right, before we do some picks for tomorrow,

we got to quickly talk about Shohei Otani. It's appropriate timing for it, yeah. Yeah. So Shohei Otani. It's appropriate timing for it, yeah. So Shohei Otani, one of the weirdest stories that broke Wednesday night. So, the story goes, he went to the media and was like my interpreter, I had to wire money to my interpreter

because he was in gambling debt, $4.5 million. So Otani and his representative talked to the media. So it was somebody that was, I don't know if it was his manager But somebody that was there to tell the media like the official story, right? So he was like the official story is my interpreter I had to send him four and a half million dollars because he was in gambling debt and then almost immediately after that He's like wait. No

He actually stole the money from me. Mm-hmm. I was joking Yeah, cuz so maybe it would look bad if you were like, my interpreter is four and a half million dollars in debt. And people are like, huh, that's weird. Your interpreters four and a half million dollars in debt. And they were seen in the dugout of the baseball game, the MLB game, uh, like laughing and joking. The interpreter and Otani after this statement had been released and, uh, they, it didn't look like somebody that had stolen four and a half million dollars It looked like someone who was like we should take Oakland Moneyline. It looks like someone that was like we got away with it

Yeah, so There's a problem. There's a lot of problems One is I'm just I'm gonna take Otani at his word. Okay. Yeah, I'm gonna say that the well We don't know his work. He doesn't have an interpreter anymore. Okay. Well, I'm gonna take him at his Representatives first word. Okay. Before he fired the interpreter. Yep. Which is beautiful that he now doesn't have to answer questions because he doesn't have an interpreter. Yeah. So the guy, and correct me if I'm wrong here, but the interpreter who makes what, $200,000 a year? Correct. Was $4 million in debt. Correct. How would

that happen? Because the only way it would happen would be if they were using a bookie that was willing to give that interpreter that amount of credit. Correct. If he makes $200,000 a year, why would the bookie give him four and a half million dollars worth of credit?

You're asking very good questions. It would be no different than if memes, there was a story that memes was $5 million in debt to a bookie And it was like, huh, I wonder whose money Yeah, so it makes sense I'm just connecting some dots here and baseball's got a big problem because problem Shohei Otani stands to make MLB

Hundreds of millions of dollars if not more. Yeah over the course of his career He's playing in the biggest market. By the way, maybe that's why he moved to Los Angeles was because he loved betting on his team so much and he couldn't make any money off it with the Angels. So he moved to the Dodgers. Yeah. So they could win some games.

Yeah. And get some money. Also, California doesn't have legalized gambling. They do not. So again, this was all on credit with an illegal bookmaker. And it seems to me like baseball, given how much money they stand to make from Otani, really does not want to have to treat Otani like they would anyone.

Can you imagine if it was a utility player that paid off $4 and 1? Million? How fast would that guy be banned for baseball for life? And let's just, let's do a hypothetical real quick. Just a quick hypothetical, because hypothetically speak, well no, this part is real. Newsflash, I like to gamble, okay?

Hypothetically speaking though, if someone were to give me $700 million knowing that I like to gamble, I'd probably ask for it in little pieces, not all upfront. Maybe a deferment because I know that I like to gamble and I don't want all the money right away because I like to gamble. How pissed do you think Otani's interpreter was? If it was really him that was in debt, that's like, don't worry, I'm good for it.

I got a big payday coming in soon. We're about to sign a new contract and then Otani's like Hey, man, yeah, we're not going to get that money for 10 years. Yeah, like, fuck, we'll get a little bit. We'll get enough to, to, you know, March madness. Yeah, just get us through, just get us through the NCAA tournament. We're fine. What do you say, Hank? It's gonna sound crazy, but four and a half billion for what he makes is also not that much. Oh yeah, for Otani. Right. Yeah. But for his interpreter.

Yeah, no, that's like, like his unit size is in it for all relatively speaking. Yeah, isn't crazy. I mean, you hear like, you know, like Floyd Mayweather bets a million dollars a game. It's like, that's eye popping, but then you're like, wait, but Floyd Mayweather makes like a hundred million dollars a fight. So my idea for his interpreter, that's a lot. That's a big, that's a big number. My idea for Rob Manford is very simple. You just do the reverse Jordan on him and you tell him he has to go play minor league basketball

for four years. I like what was he gambling on sports? That's what I want to know. So yeah, the best case is if it was American sports, then it was definitely him because the interpreter was explaining to American sports How do you want to yeah the the best case scenario? I think for the? News MLB is like it was somehow casino related, but I don't think it sounds like it is no and and that's no more situation that's where that's where there's another problem is if The only way that you could expect a bookmaker to give a guy four and a half million dollars

with a credit to bet on if he makes 200 grand a year is if that guy is doing other stuff for you. If that guy is giving you inside information that he would know because he's inside a clubhouse every single day. Interesting situation MOB has their hands in now. Very interesting. Yeah, so that's it.

We'll see what happens. This also all broke when he's overseas, right? Because they started the season in Japan? No. Korea. Korea. So yeah, we'll see when he gets back. But again, it's very funny because he's gonna walk in,

they're gonna ask him questions, he's like, I don't have an interpreter. He gambled too much. Do you think, Hank, when you said like, explain American sports to him, you think he doesn't know like how to bet on basketball? His wife is a basketball player. Facts. She's actually a bucket. She is.

With all due respect. I'd knock it out of the park. But like football. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Hockey. So we're gonna we're gonna find out a lot more God It would rule about this if show hey, Otani was betting on maxion What if what if show he's like goddamn bowling green would have show hey, Otani is nice man Too much if they're sitting there watching, you know NFL on a Sunday the interpreters probably explaining things to him So the interpreters the bad gambler?

No, Shohei is the bad gambler, right? But if it's American sports, then it's I think that probably knows how to show it I think he probably watches football and knows how to yeah that on football allegedly his interpreter slash show hay but yeah, there's gonna be a lot of a lot of twists and turns in this story Yes It ends up coming out and base baseball has painted itself into a corner as being like the ultimate Like high and mighty moral arbiter of all things good and evil. Yep, and you got Pete Rose

Pete Rose is watching this closer than anyone. Yeah. Pete Rose is like, what are you going to do to Shohei? Yeah. Yeah. And all the steroid guys. So yeah, it's going to be interesting. But yeah, we'll update as it goes along. I'm sure we'll have updates on Monday's show.

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I have a Mega Max Super Lock of the Tournament. Oh, okay. I'll let you guys go first. I have a lock plus. Well, no, now you have to go. No, you guys go. No, you have to go. No, do your Mega Max Super Lock.

Is it bigger than a Mega Max Lock of the Tournament? No, mine's just a... Mine's just a... Why don't you do the main event before the ender card? Mine's a Max Plus. Yours is bigger. So you do the main event before the ender card mine's a max plus yours is a bigger So you do yours first? Oh, I guess I like Texas am plus one I Think they're gonna they're gonna bother Nebraska a lot

I like the under in Western Kentucky Marquette who Western Kentucky loves to run the floor, but they suck they chuck They are bad. They're bad offensive team, but they take a lot of bad shots, but sometimes they go in. Yeah. But I don't think they're going in this time. Okay. 158 under. I love love, love, love Purdue. Oh, revenge. Yeah. I could see that. The UVA formula. They're not. Yeah. And what, what didn't you view in the next year? Yeah. Remember the next year they were down at half to Gardner Webb as a one seed. Hmm They ended up winning it obviously and winning it all but they had a slow start again. Yeah, it's happening again Max

NIT It's March Madness. I have you be oh you said you were and a half you were all about the NIT a day ago Yeah, I'm well, come on. I'm not I'm allowed to have a little fun. What happened plus six and a half What happened with the n.i.t. I think you a B's pretty good The Mountain West stinks Mountain West loses every game you a B plus six and a half what happened to Nova They lost in the n.i.t UAB is a pretty good program.

In the opening round of the NIT? There's no Jelly Walker this year. Were you guys at home? But I still think they're a pretty good squad. Well, at least losing in the first round of the NIT means that Kyle Neptune's gonna get fired. No. Oh, what? I'll take Coach Kyle.

I would love Coach Kyle. Max is just dealing with coaches he wants fired that won't get fired. It's great. Now, Neptune's got one more year on his contract to make or break year next year, but I think we're going to lose all our guys. Yeah, he's going to be a lame duck coach. Okay. Well, good luck to everyone. We have more picks coming with Stanford Steve. We're going to talk about the entire Friday slate with him. Before we do that, Matt Jones is

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yet again, loses to 14 seed Oakland. You could just tell us where what you're feeling or where you want to start because sure we have some follow-up questions but the floor is yours. Speak for Kentucky. You know the last time you had me on your show was when Mitch McConnell got me kicked off the radio and I didn't have a job and I think this is worse. I'll be honest with you. I think this is I think this might be worse. It's terrible. You know, loads to St. Peters in Oakland, two of the last three years. Um, and I think probably the end of the Calipari era,

there's a really good change. I mean, I, I, I mean, I don't think it's certain, but I think a lot of the fans want that. Um, and it's just sad, you know, listen, you guys are fans of your teams when you really, really love something and it's, it feels like the end of an era tonight. That kind of sucks. Yeah, that is, that is tough. Uh, his buyout is what? $33 million to, to, yeah, it's not my, it's important. Always kind of money, not ours. Right. But they may have to do it, because this fan base,

I've never seen them this upset ever. Yeah, so I was reading some stats earlier that Kentucky has only won one NCAA tournament game since 2019. These are actually your stats that you tweet out. And that Kentucky has won one SEC tournament game since 2019. Though it's hard. It's hard to hear that and not be like, what the hell is going on at Kentucky? Like, what is how did it? How did he get to this point? Well, you guys were the first ones to ever put him on the hot seat.

Yeah, but we also said to give an extension. Yeah, yeah. I'm looking forward to you hosting this summer. I hope you'll do it again. Yeah, you'll have a lot. You'll have a lot to talk about. I think he's kind of gotten a little big for the program. I think he his relationships here are pretty poor. He has no relationship with the AD, no relationship with the boosters, no relationship with the media. You know, you guys know I used to be pretty close with him. He does not like us now at KSLR. It's just unfortunate because I think he's a good dude. But you know, sometimes times end, right? Like sometimes you just got to say that's it. And I think I don't know if we're there, but I think we're pretty close. Yeah. So, so Cal has been very vocal in the last several years about how proud he is of his track record with guys that he brings in the program, develops them, gets them into the NBA, and then gets the massive contracts in the NBA. His alumni, right? So that's kind of what he's hung his hat on. And he had a quote

after today's game that says, it's going to be hard for me to change that, bringing in freshmen, because we've helped so many young people and their families that I don't see myself saying, okay, we're not gonna include freshmen anymore. So I don't, with a coach like that, I understand where he's coming from, but I can't see a fan base really having that message resonate with them if you're not also winning, right? So- They hate that.

The fans here hate that he says, like the draft is the important thing changing. But like everybody likes the draft. But, you know, I could sit here and go through the players he's had just in the last like eight or nine years. Shay Alexander, Devin Booker, Tyrese Maxey, right? You know, Kacen Wallace, all these guys, Oscar Shibway, all these dudes they've won and then they haven't won anything. And I think that Fox, Monk, Addabio, all these guys Oscar Shibway, all these dudes, they've won and then they haven't won anything. And I think that Fox, Monk, I had a bio, all these guys, Jamal Murray, and like to have all those dudes and think about all those guys I just mentioned, not one Final Four and that entire group. I mean, Devin Booker made the Final Four, but the

rest of them, no Final Fours. I think that's a lot. I think people are kind of tired of it. And then to say he's not going to change. I mean, look, I will tell you when I felt Gunkel or whatever his name was Oakland. Yeah. I thought of you too, because I thought those you guys had to love him. Right? Real him and eggs. Yeah. Played D three basketball and he goes out. It's talking trash. 30 points points but losing the dudes like that when you've got the players Cal has Dillingham and Shepard gonna be top 10 picks I think fans are just kind of over yeah that that is the the extra pain that Kentucky goes through because it's very rare that they don't have a more talented team and they keep having these disappointments so let me ask you this if Cal somehow stays,

is there a fix? Because it, to me, the biggest issue with Kentucky right now is that it's a lot of recruiting and not a lot of coaching. I've watched a lot of Kentucky basketball this year. There wasn't a lot of like set plays. There was a lot of guys who are really talented off the dribble. The defense never came around. He said he was going to do some tweaks. There were no tweaks. It felt like he was the last person on earth to find out that Oakland ran a zone and that Galky could shoot from anywhere. So like to me, I'm just watching that game and I'm like, did Kentucky, did they plan anything for this game or were they just going to roll the ball out and say, we're better

than you because it feels like that's what happens time and time again. So is there if Cal says you know if he says in two weeks I'm hiring the best assistant coaches I can find we're going to get back to basics we have to we have to actually run some stuff and and teach these guys basketball that's winning basketball would the fan base be like okay maybe this is different. I mean maybe but first of all he would have to admit that which he won't. I mean, he does, he believes that the way he plays is the way you should play. I mean, after the game today, he said we had a lot of freshmen do things they've never done before, but you watch the game. I mean, we, they ran them a zone, a little junk zone and Kentucky couldn't get any shots open. I mean, they ran a zone, a little junk zone, and Kentucky couldn't get any shots open.

I mean, listen, Oakland should have won by more. They missed 11 free throws. I'll even say we got the good side of the whistle. Like, I think we got some good calls, so it could have been worse. There's no assistant, he won't listen to them. You know, listen, how many 60, however many-year-olds, how many of those guys do you know that change? The best thing, here's one of the things I like about the culture

you guys have at Barstool. You guys have, you two are very successful, Dave is very successful, but you all are surrounded by people that are not on your all's level in terms of like success, but you give each other a hard time and you listen to each other. Right? And so you will listen to people that might be lower on the food chain, but you'll consider what they say. Cal's not like that. Cal is in charge. People can say whatever he wants. He's still going to do what he wants to do. And that's a good way to lose your grip on success. That's crazy to me because it's so nuts to be this coach who's been wildly successful and not like Saban is the perfect

examples. How many times has Saban changed what he did when the, when he would, when he won national titles where he was running the football and playing great defense, then linebackers got smaller and people were spreading it out. He got two and all those wide receivers. And it was that shape shifting of like, I will get with the times cow like that. That's that. I know you, you probably know it, you know, in the back of your hand, but like up until I think was the LSU game, uh, they hadn't hit a game winner and in forever because they literally just didn't, they ran the same play every time for a game winning shot shot and it's like teams made this 32 shots until the Mississippi State game

They're 32 shots at the end of games to win and they had missed all of them, right? Which which is like a crazy which is a crazy stat and then they hit the one with Shepherd this year Saban's a great example because to me Saban is an exact example of what you should do. Like Cal would never bring in a Lane Kiffin kind of guy to be an assistant. Like he would never do that. But that's what Saban is the most successful coach of all time but he had the humility to say look I need help with this right I need to bring this guy in for modern offense. Cal won't do that. Listen when dudes dudes get a certain age, they do not change. And the ones that do are special. Szechevsky did that, right? So Szechevsky was recruiting a

certain kind of way. And then he goes, you know what? I got to go get the stars. I got to go get the star freshmen. And he did. And they kind of took a lot of cows guys like think about Zion yeah Zion would have been a Kentucky player yeah in the day Cal made K change that's a fact exactly right he did and now and now Cal needs to change back because Jay Wright tonight said it the best because of NIL these dudes are staying in college longer and that's about to happen like you're gonna see good players stay in college for three and four years and I just don't know if you can win with freshmen anymore.

Because these... I mean, hell, the guy... Two of the starters on Oakland were 24 years old. We're starting three guys that are 18. That's a big difference. Yeah. Yeah, no, you're right. Have you allowed your mind to wander yet? Have you thought who would look good in Kentucky Blue? Oh, man.

I'm going to throw a couple of names out there. All right, let me hear. And if we're talking buyouts, there's a guy down in Alabama who just got a new contract with a massive buyout. But if you want to win, Nate Oates is a hot name. Yeah, but Nate Oates hadn't won anything though. I mean, I like that. He talks so I like his trash talking, but he doesn't win anything yet. Now maybe he'll do it this year, but he hadn't won any. I like that, Matt, because I was floating that out there to see if you, if y'all were still Kentucky and you're still talking. Y'all still talking. What about, Hey Matt, what about coach K? What about get

him out of retirement? I mean, well here's what they'll do. First of all, if Cal is, and I don't think that's certain, but let's say once the first thing they'll do is I know the first two people they'll call. They'll call Jay Wright and they'll call Brad Stevens and they'll say any chance. Yeah, my guess is both of them would say no, but that's the first thing they would do. Yeah. And then I think that their next thing would probably be Scott Drew at Baylor would be who they would try to get. But I'll tell you, after Scott Drew, I would ask you guys like there's not an obvious. Yeah, there is. No. Yeah, there is. He was on this show and he said that he never should have left Kentucky. He said such nice things about how about that? We still have Rick Pitino on. How did you not ask him about some of the stories I told on your old show here about a few weeks ago? Well, we were very intimidated. We also, we had, it was the most that PFT and I talked about an interview before doing

an interview where we were like, okay, this guy was nice enough to come in. We said a lot of things. We have to obviously own up to some of the things without getting into too much detail, which I think we did well, but we were like, we've done some interviews that we haven't aired where we screwed up by kind of being like it didn't go well right away. And we're just like, so we're like, let's have a good interview here. Uh, but yeah, it was in our mind the entire time. I thought, I'm kidding you. I thought you did a great job. Like like people people want you to be jerks to people when you interview them and you can't Like like it's hard to do that and I thought you guys actually thought you made him seem very likable. Yeah

He is Matt we're repartino guys now. I wanted I wanted at least one down my leg though. Yeah I I bit the fuck out of the inside of my cheeks at one point during the interview, just like don't do a PFT. It went against everything in my nature and I hated it. But yeah, people remember by the way, how crazy that story is. Oh yeah. Do you do you? But no, I mean like the, he takes his equipment manager asked him to take the woman to get an abortion. I know what colony it is. They fall in love on the way.

Yeah, this sounds like, this sounds, this sounds fake to me. We're Rick Pitino guys now. It sounds like you- Okay, sorry. I didn't mean to break- But they fell in love at Subway over at Subway, Joe. No, that's a beautiful place. Yes, that's a beautiful place.

Different. You got, you got Pitino derangement syndrome. Five dollar foot long. Listen, I actually found myself this year, guys, and you know what my Patino history is. I find myself pulling for him at St. John's. I wanted him to make the tournament. Yeah, he does a subway commercials like Jared, but he's holding up the pants for the state. Listen, he would be a great coach to go back to Kentucky.

But yeah, I mean, it feels like Kentucky would would have the pick of the litter. I don't know. I mean, I'll throw out another name who's the opposite of Cal. of the litter. I don't know. I mean, I'll throw out another name who's the opposite of Cal. And the fact that I think he's a fantastic coach, X's and O's. What about Eric Musselman? Arkansas. Like that's a guy. Even like little stuff like there's coaches like, all right, so back to Cal and how he coaches like we saw today, Dana Altman, Oregon coach. I think he's one of the most underrated coaches in college. He always has teams overachieving to their

talent level and playing great tournament basketball throwing like the defense. He threw it South Carolina today, had them completely befuddled in the first half or like even shock a smart, even as it drives me nuts that he's on the court. But like going back to that, you know, game when they played against Villanova, he drew up the perfect play at the end of the game that ended up not counting. But like those types of things where it's like, you have a coach that you know will steal you, you know, at least a few possessions a game when it comes to like out of time out calls, when it comes to little throwing little wrinkles at them for possession here and there. And that's the stuff that like Cal just doesn't do

and it would drive me nuts as a Kentucky fan. It does some, I think at this job though, this is like, again, I don't know if people outside of the state realize, but like you have to be a rock star to be at this job, like this is a hard job. In the state of Kentucky, this is what we do. I mean, you guys know you've hosted the show every year. Like it's what people live for.

So you can't be like Dana Altman looks like an accountant. You can't be an accountant. You have to be a rock star. You know, if Nate Oates had ever won, he's an example of a guy who has that personality, but he still hasn't won anything yet. So I think it makes it hard. This is tough.

Normally there's always the guy that I think, makes it hard. This is tough. Normally there's always the guy that I think, well, if Cal leaves, we'd get this dude. Yeah. Right now. I mean, Scott Drew, he's won a lot. He's kind of boring, right? Like, so like, do you get, do you get Scott Drew? I try, I think they'll go hard if Cal leaves and get, I don't know if he will, but Jay Wright and Brad Stevens would be really, right. It would be very good. Yeah. J. Right. About TJ Otzelberger. Yeah, I mean, I want this Kentucky. That's the opposite for rock star. He's a wrestler. Yeah. Yeah. I want to win.

Give me just give me somebody that will win the fact that like nobody got upset tonight, but us that also makes it stink. Yeah. One except us tonight. Yeah. No, the 11 seeds had a nice showing, but you're right. Like it felt like all day we were just watching for that big moments like up here comes Kentucky shitting down their pants again. Uh, all right. So last question for you, Matt, uh, your, your show, which everyone should tune in tomorrow. What are you expecting in terms of, uh, the anger and the calls? I would imagine there's probably people already on hold right now waiting to talk to you,

but is it going to be one of those shows where it's just going to be people just calling in and ripping them apart? Well, I already did a postgame show a little while ago and we had one person cry. We had one person very, very angry. We had a couple of people drunk, say Cal better get out of here. So I think it'll be more of that. I don't think we're gonna be very reasonable,

to be honest with you. This is amongst this fan base as many things. They're not reasonable is not one of them. I wanna say one thing and I wanna do it on your show because people, your listeners need to hear this. These two dudes, I've known these two dudes now since before they were popular. I'm telling you, the guys you hear, I get asked this all the time about you all, like are those really nice guys? The guys you hear on the show, this is

how they are in real life. They are kind to people that they don't need to be kind to and I know they're funny and hilarious and super successful, but they're as good a guys as you hope they would be, which I can't say about everybody. And I just want to say that on your point. Thank you, Matt. I'm glad to hear the check cleared. Yeah.

That's good. Well, let me ruin that for you. Let me ruin that for you real quick, Matt. Would you say the last time that this fan base was truly happy with Coach Cal and Kentucky basketball was March 28th 2015 when you beat Notre Dame the elite eight to punch your ticket to the final four 38 to 38 no would that be the last time you know that might be right I think we were pretty happy up until we lost to Carolina in 2017 and I

got sued by John Higgins and won the lawsuit in the Sixth Circuit. That's the last time maybe we were happy. But your Wisconsin team, I don't even want to hear it. It's still the thing I hold against you the most in Los Angeles. It's probably one of my happiest moments and it didn't end well a couple days after that. That's the Kentuckiness of it all though, Big Cat's favorite moment is beating you guys. Yeah, you guys are Kentucky. Yeah, we didn't even win it. By the way, I revealed the brackets on ESPN.

And when I saw James Madison versus Wisconsin, I said on the ESPN show, it's the Pardon My Take matchup. And then when I left, I went into the restroom, and somebody goes, I'm not going to say who it was, but somebody goes, maybe be careful talking about the pardon my take Still we're still you know what rent free yeah rent free in ESPN said yeah Matt I heard that one caller called in today and said that you guys are now the new, Indiana. How did that? Listen we are not that pathetic. We would never wear those stupid striped pants and

we would never make their stupid rap videos. Indiana hasn't been good in 25 years, so I will not be insulted and be called Indiana. Okay, last, last, last question. Are you guys at football school now? Ooh. Yeah. Well, I think we gotta go to a playoff first, but I will say it's now become more of a debate. You guys would love Mark Stoops, by the way. Oh, we've had him on. We've had him on. Yeah, we've had him on. He's the best. He was at... And you would like Cal, too. You're going to get Cal at some point and you'll end up charmed by him. I think Stoops was at Bo Pelini's... What tournament

was that? It was his bocce tournament. His bocce tournament. Yeah, we had Stoops in the back of the van. I remember that. You went to Youngstown yeah all right well Matt thank you sorry again but you are the best and we can't wait to host Kentucky Sports Radio this summer thank you for coming on yes I can't wait to my fellow DraftKings guys you'll have a good night love it love it take care Matt see you Matt PMT's one take episode is brought to you by our friends at You all have a good night. Love it. Love it. Take care, Matt. See you, Matt. PMT's one take episode is brought to you by our friends at Visible Wireless. Draining a half-court buzzer beater to win the game?

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And now for something completely different. OK, we now welcome on one of our favorite guests, our good, good friend. It is Stanford Steve. You can see him on Sports Center with SVP every night that SVP decides to work. He is one of the sharpest guys we know. What was your record on game day this year?

Not great. Oh, no. Four and one in 2024. Four and one in 2024. So we're taping this on Tuesday afternoon. So we're going to run it Friday and we were like, we need to have Steve on. And I think it's the perfect time to have you on because Thursday already happened

if you're listening to this. You got your teeth kicked in. You got absolutely destroyed. And Steve is going to help us navigate the Friday slate and hopefully win us some money. Steve, big thoughts though before the tournament starts. This might be bad if you recommend a team that is playing on Thursday and then loses and you say, Oh, they could

win the final four, but big overarching thoughts. Your Yukon Huskies look unstoppable. Uh, what else you got? That's, that's the worry right there. Too much. You got too much. You can't do much Yukon and it's really, really scary. Also, Dan, I thought you had this in your big brain. You got to have your final four teams on Friday. Just, just so you have an extra day at a tournament. Yes. Yeah. That's a very good point. That's a very good point. Hopefully North Carolina beat the winner of Howard Wagner because all my other final four teams are playing on Friday. That's smart.

So no Tennessee, no who's the other one? Maybe Iowa State. Not a believer. No, no, no. What futures do you have? Do you, I know you, you probably have a bunch of futures. What do you got? I have Yukon all the way back at the beginning.

I think it was 18 to one. Ooh, you got me trumped. I have 14 to one. Ooh, you got me trumped. I had 14 to one. Uh, you kind of a couple of weeks ago to make the final four plus one 25. Okay. Um, I'm still shopping around for a Duke not to make the sweet 16 because that's even money. I like that. Um, I was hoping that'd be a better price knowing the teams that are in a little pod, but I'm sure we're going to talk about that. Yeah. Yeah. But, um, no, I was, I was hoping that'd be a better price, knowing the teams that are in a little pod, but I'm sure we're gonna talk about that. Yeah. Yeah. But no, I was solely based on UConn. I didn't buy any of the Houston.

I'm just, the Purdue factor is obviously everybody's feel good story except yours, Dan. Yeah. So I do have something in myself rooting for them. But yeah, we're pretty stacked up on UConn and now it's pretty scary how much, first of all, how good they are, but then again, the belief,

because now they are the ultimate one seed. Last year they were a four and I thought they had, I think right when Titus did it, we were talking about them for the national title. So it's been a storm brewing. You guys have had early on. There's no messing around. I think he's a master motivator in what he does.

And I could see his motivation for every step of the way. Because this is the one thing about the tournament. And right away, it's UConn has the toughest road, right? UConn's bracket's unbelievable. Same thing on the women's side. Caitlin Clark's brackets and incredible. Okay. I understand you see the teams in the bracket, but on the bottom, they can only play one team. Right? So whoever comes out of that bottom and all people are saying, you know, Illinois or Iowa, that's

going to be over. Hopefully both those things moved on. But they only could play one of those teams. Same thing with San Diego State and Auburn or UAV and Yale. They could only play one of those teams. So I don't look at the, they're not playing the whole bracket. They play whoever's on the line in front of them. And that's why I don't think it's as tough a walk for UConn. And the biggest factor of all that no one brought up is they're playing in Brooklyn and in Boston. I know.

Connecticut's in the middle of them. Yeah. Yeah. It's home games. And all my friends can be as bitter and evil and just flat out mean from Connecticut as possible. And that's all they're saying to themselves. Like they can't wait to get to the gym. Well to have something to complain about it's a very nice thing that they have like yeah and you can get mad about that until until you start

playing the games but then the way the tournament always shakes out you can't like you can't predict who's gonna win each game so who knows if they're gonna actually have to play two of those tough teams I believe in bracket pools this will be the lowest score or least amount right ever. Oh, ever, ever. Yeah. I do. I think I think you're better off of of of getting out of team and and riding that thing with a future or you know, betting to make the sweet 16. I think this bracket pool, I think it's impossible. I think it's impossible. Yeah, Max's mic is on, so we just heard about that. Did you ever do that by mistake, Steve? Yeah, do you ever talk during SVP's show?

When he's doing one big thing and he's getting real sentimental about something and then you're in the background, you're like, yeah, at least six on Mississippi State. Yeah. My producers do a good job at Bristol if something serious is coming up to get it in my ear. Have you ever, when Scott's doing a monologue,

have you ever gone on a monitor and just typed in Sydney Sweeney on Twitter I started scrolling through pictures. Well, they're trying to introduce the show That happened here we were looking for topics who's she was number one trending thing on Twitter I wanted to see what was going on Doing his job happened to be happened to be a picture of boobs. Hey, it happens. It happens. You know, Hey, sometimes the one thing about Yukon that makes me nervous. Cause I also bet them in December, uh, Rico Bosco called them the 96 bulls. So that pretty much

ends Yukon's run right there. That's a whole nother pod. If we're going to bring up that guy, yeah, he just, you just putting the mush all over them. Yeah. I just wondered who he PFT, who's he going to get a hat from after a sweet 16 run and that's going to be his team. All of them. Probably ISIS. Yeah. Probably. Oh, he does. Oh, he'll be rocking a rocking a Putin hat. Yeah. He does have some pictures. All right. So Steve, you want to talk about our game. You want to rip off the band-aid your pod, your pod. I'm including all the guys. Yeah, because you are a Duke fan I So I said it on Wednesday and I'm not being I'm not just doing this just to like guard myself

I think this is a very bad matchup for Wisconsin. I'm very nervous about this game They don't defend the three well James Madison hits the three. Well What what's your take unbiased take on this matchup? All right, I'm gonna fast forward I have Wisconsin in the final four damn. Oh, I like it. Steve. Good pick. Why? Great. So you think that what happened in February doesn't count? They found their form again. Cause that really was, they were two different teams. Correct. I think they really found their forming. It's Maryland that helped because you know what that rivalry has been for so long that they found themselves. And I'm at the ACC tournament and I'm not with anybody. And I just see the score and I'm like, Oh Lord,

40 points. Like this is put the phone down. Yeah. It actually was, it actually was bad because I like it when Wisconsin beats Maryland by a little bit. So then I can get Scott really, like he gave up in the first 10 minutes. and one of my favorite things to do whenever Wisconsin like you said to all time rivalry Scott loves being in the big 10 is whenever Wisconsin plays Maryland and Wisconsin wins you know usually be like nine o'clock at night I'll FaceTime Steve knowing that he's sitting right next to Scott and just be like talk about the game knowing that Scott's just getting so upset next to him. I believe this year my reply was not happening tonight. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't call this year because the Cole center refs came through and they were calling some Madison

whistle. Yep. The Madison whistle. But all right. So you, what you like Wisconsin, the final four? I do. I do. I love what I've seen from them. I think store is an absolute difference maker Chucky healthy is good. I mean To withstand what they had to do against Purdue Dan. Yeah, and you watched them you guys I checked in on the on the live stream You guys watching that game and I get it, you know, you had to do it what three times this year it is. I sort of take Edie's side though, because he is Shaq. No one knows how to defend him. He gets shit that that guys just don't get. And it is so different because he's so big. Yeah. You know, it's funny. I got three little girls at home and whenever they're on, it's like, is

oh my God, there he is again. Like they just, they are enamored with how big he is. And I just think, you know, he's, he's, he is that good. I give a kid a ton of credit, um, for, for what he was stood. He got his file shooting better. He's in way better shape this year. You could just see that. But anyway, Wisconsin, I just, the team's been through a lot, man. Like they got seriously humbled in February. Yeah. You lose to Michigan. Yeah. Like, like that's, that's as bad as it gets. Yeah. And I think there I mean there's been passages with Wisconsin basketball teams and stuff off the court whether the locker room likes each other. But I genuinely feel this team has the goods. They're as versatile as any of these Wisconsin teams. Maybe even more

versatile because the athleticism at the guard at the guard spot than the team that lost in the national championship. Yeah. I know that team had pros, but like what you want in this day and age with three point shots and inside presence, uh, you know, you mentioned the perimeter defense. I get it. But if you're, if James Bass is going to make 33s, then they're going to be anybody in the country, right? Maybe anybody in the world. Um, but I, the world. But I'd like the offensive stamp. But store could get a bucket at any single time. Hepburn is the same way. And that opens up a lot of stuff. Now, do I feel confident? No. Yeah, it's a, it's a, it's a five, you know, go to the final four. But I just felt Houston is beat up, man. They are not what they were at the beginning of the year. I think they got their hands full. I have A&M winning against Nebraska as much as I love

Nebraska ball. And is Jake in there? He is in there. Did Jake go to the Vermont game Sunday? No. Saturday? No. When's the last time he didn't go? I was at the championship game last year. I know and then the year before right No, oh Okay, I thought you were more loyal the You have just to just to clear it up you have Wisconsin in the Final Four playing against Purdue If you're rooting for big cat sadness, that's, that's not a bad way to go. Oh my God. Yeah. Although the happiness of beating Duke would kind of, that's true. You get that. I, I, I, listen, Steve, I, I like that you, uh, think that we found something

in it. Yeah. I mean the, the big 10 tournament, like the thing with Wisconsin is if they can hit their threes, everything opens up. You saw it within the Northwestern game. When AJ store hits one or two threes, no one can guard him off the dribble. And then when you have to come out and like even Crowell hitting a top of the key, you know, key three, that all opens up. Klezmer can obviously get hot, but I just, I just, I I'm worried about James Madison just cause I just, I totally get it then. I get it. And that's, and that's the kickers. I went to see JMU the night before we PFT and hung out at that great university and they are, they're as different a team because they just absolutely violate the three point line. Right. And your recipe for a tournament upset, everybody loves that. And they got

purple and people love that. So people love purple. People love purple. People love purple. Okay. Yeah. I'll buy that. But what about, so, um, JMU hasn't really played in big gyms. Jake was talking to me about that earlier. Uh, they, they played at Michigan state. Obviously. Does that have anything to do like, is the moment going to be too big for these Dukes playing in Brooklyn? No, it's about big Dukes energy. That's, that's, that's the biggest thing here. And the lighting at the Barclays is always off to me. I mean, that 8-10 tournament is as dark a backdrop as possible. So no, I don't worry about the... I do worry about the rims. These rims are brand new. They bring them in for... it feels like every single pod. They're not what

the nets play on. Hopefully... I was hoping you were going to get those cause they're probably softer with the nets shoot on a nightly basis, but no, it's, it's a, it's a real interest. It does feel too public to me for, for the 12, everybody loves the 12 five. I get it. I liked looking more towards down for upsets, but I get everybody's withstand. It's going to be a fantastic, it might be the best game of, of the first round. Uh, so it's, it's, it's more my, my, my thing is just more inclined to what's, what's, what's the bet for all four guys involved. You mentioned the bet. So it sounds like you've got some ideas. I don't know. We haven't,

we haven't sat down and talked about the stakes of the bet yet. Here's my problem. I'm sure there will be something. Here's my problem. So when we bet, like we bet the commander's bears game, there's a night football this year because both teams sucked and we're like, who cares? Yeah. When, when, when we're talking about the tournament or playoffs, like I won't even bet the game because it's like, I'm just all fandom in it. You know what I mean? What are you gonna say Max? What about like an NBA playoff series where well you guys bet that I'm talking about myself. I'm talking about myself personally. Like I care so much about the Badgers in the tournament that like there's already so much at stake that like humiliation of losing in the first round sucks. Humiliation of losing a Duke would suck. Humiliation of Jake being like, oh, I'm kind of rooting for Wisconsin against Vermont.

I hope you guys have fun. That would suck. So there's like no, there's nothing that could be, it's just torture is just waiting for me on the other side. Very simple for you, Dan. You're in the best position of anybody. Oh, I think I'm in the worst. No, cuz you just Throw in a James Madison money line bet and then when it happens you just tweet it out and say I'm good You want money you can win money off couldn't never bet against my team. I could never do that What's wrong with you? How much would you pay? How much would you pay to know that Wisconsin was going to advance? know that Wisconsin was going to advance. 50 K 50. Yeah, there you go. And then Jamie you had to get what's that one? I'm probably probably probably a hundred to beat Duke.

If I could just pay for them to win. Then you're like a boy would pay a million dollars if they won the national title this year. I have no problem. Okay. Yeah. I would be like I could just I could just be happy for your life. Oh, deal. You're gonna make it done. We've talked about, I will say if you want to pay someone like this is what worries me about Vermont against Duke is Jake not being at the game. Like he went last year, he was all in. And now like kind of the shine is off of Vermont. Everybody's saying, this isn't as good a

team as Becker has had, they're still gonna be solid. They play great defense. And all the pressure is on Duke. This is when I really get worried about, this is when the Mercer happens. This is when Lehigh happens. It's when they're on the four line. And that's, that's what scares me. They're as talented as anybody. I just haven't seen that angst.

A little more emotion would be nice. And that's what worries me about the Dukes. We've talked about doing some sort of bet where me and Big Cat meet in the middle in terms of our weights. If one person, so I'm not going to ask Big Cat how much, there are three things you don't ask a woman, how much she weighs a person, how much they make and Big Cat, how much he weighs too. But the loser should have to come to the other person's weight Like in a calendar year like what if I had to put on like 50 pounds?

It would be funny, what do you weigh now? I haven't honestly it could be anything I haven't weighed myself in like a year loser has to go to 210 loser goes to 210 I Got way better. You got you got four guys and you got the four teams Max has to pick a guy who he's gonna back. Okay winner of this pod gets to pick one of the losers and Shave or cut his hair in the style that he wants. Oh Man, mmm or cut his hair in the style that he wants. Oh, man. So, but I'm going to have to get odds like Jake and I would have to get odds on. Yeah. 12, no underdogs.

Well, take a sum. I was thinking you said Max has to back one of us. And if they lose, Max has to do the punishment. You know, the person who wins can pick him. Oh, Max is in the pool. Yeah. I like this. Yeah. That ponytail. He's got to back somebody. Max has to. That's the first thing. Max has to come in the pool. Yeah, I like this. Yeah Max that's the first thing Max has to come to the for yeah, Max has to pick a perfect bracket in this quad And if not, he gets punished. Yeah, I like this Should have nothing to do with any Not your style to not be part of it. Yeah

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I totally agree. I love what I saw from A and M against Tennessee in that tournament and just the wherewithal. I think they won six or seven, uh, you know, coming in when, when all the pressure was on them, they were, they were, they were out, they were outside the bubble and really got it together. Uh, that the intensity that the Nebraska A and M game is going to be a fun one. Yeah. Um, you know, with Nebraska being back in the mix, they play a fun style, take the over in that game. Uh, it might be the highest over on the board or maybe that no Alabama Charleston. Oh, okay. Alabama Charleston's at like 173 now. Yeah, 173 and a half. Oh, wow. That's getting a little crazy. It's getting a little crazy. You got to

play a perfect game for 173 and a half. So what other bets on Friday have you circled? Uh, recent seed bias. I'm known to be accustomed to that. I have it probably definitely with, uh, with Wisconsin. I like New Mexico. I really like, I mean, Dent is the guard that mostly takes care of the ball. He didn't even play in the, in the mountain west title game. And they did it with, with mass for junior and house. They were spectacular. That's what you want. They're the perfect mix. You got a Patino in there, knowing that, you know, son probably knocked out the dad

When they got an automatic bid, but I think in Mexico's playing as well as anybody There I mean their ability from three-point line. They got some young bigs that are good They'll be tested against PJ Hall Clemson, you know is is not gonna get picked because of how bad I mean I was there against BC They were they were pathetic Yeah And you can't expect them to come out with that after knowing how close they've been to the tournament. And now that they're in, but I do like them.

I mean, they're an 11, they're favored. I think they're, I believe they're in a better team. I really would like to see New Mexico and Baylor in the second round. That's, that's a fantastic game. Jake, would you rather have Vermont playing Duke or Auburn? Cause I'm thinking of like Yale and Vermont in the same category. I'd rather be playing Duke right now. Just the way the two teams are playing. Yeah. Uh,

Auburn could not, they can't be better than they were. Yeah. This path, they, they, they just can't. Um, and Titus brought up a good point on Wednesday. Auburn is playing incredible, but they also didn't have to play the top three teams in the SEC. Correct. They didn't have to go through Tennessee or Kentucky or Alabama. They, you know, and it's no offense the SEC, but they're run. They did beat two, what, two out of three tournament teams in Florida and Mississippi state. Yeah. But still it's a little bit different than having to go through that gauntlet. Yep And then to in the championship, right? No, they'd be Florida I had to be for maybe Florida and Florida's a team. I absolutely loved coming in before the injury

I honestly thought they could have won a national championship I still think they could do some damage. I thought they got a tough draw with Playing a winner of the playing game and then you know Marquette sitting there Marquette's team that scares me because of how valuable and how good Colick is It feels like Kentucky's way too public for me Just knowing how many people have picked them to go to the Final Four Grand Canyon is really interesting totally different style of play that they're gonna play against St. Mary's. The games in Spokane, it feels like both those fan bases,

they're, you know, Grand Canyon's done a great job of creating a great home atmosphere wherever they go, where it feels like in the Southwest of the country. But I would pick Grand Canyon in that one. St. Mary's Jefferson injury has been huge for them. It really hurts them as far as defense. And that's what you need. Tyon, the kid for Grant Grand Canyon is a pro.

If you haven't seen him, I think he's he's going to be a name you're going to know for sure. Alabama is an absolute sham. C crap shoot. Like I don't I Charleston. See here's the deal with with a Charleston even a UAB and a Vermont like those teams I don't think they're as good as they have been in years past. But they they they do a good job of you know doing what makes them successful. And obviously if you can make threes against Bama, you're going to be in it. Cause all they do is, is, is shoot threes and layups and try and block your shot. So that, that's

an interesting matchup. I would side with Bama winning. I could see myself taking a point with college of Charleston in that one. I should have mentioned, by the way,, Auburn did beat South Carolina as well, so they beat three tournament teams. They didn't beat Kentucky and Tennessee and, you know, who was the? The big dogs. Yeah, the big dogs.

What about Northwestern? So I don't have the spread pulled up in front of me. We're in Illinois right now, so it's not on our sports books. Last I saw was FAU minus two and a half. Okay, so I like Northwestern. My analysis is twofold, real in-depth shit here, okay? One,, one boo. Boo is fun to say and he's fun to root for he's a good player boo. Boo You're gonna want to say that name a lot Number two is a lot of chatter about dusty May

Yeah, a lot of chatter a lot of chatter about Louisville his next destination may be going up to Kentucky somewhere I I like Northwestern in this game I guess they are true underdogs, because a lot of these seeds we're talking about earlier, the higher seeds are actually favored by Vegas. But I like Northwestern. Sounds like you like them too. I do, I do.

Just because of how much everybody has jumped on this. UConn has all the final four teams from last year. Well, if FAU was that good, I thought they got overseeded. I don't think they should be an eight seed. Obviously, everybody knows the story of what they did last year. Nobody capitalized on the opportunity that they got last year, more than them getting to play Fairleigh Dickinson in the next round.

I thought really that got themselves going towards their final four run. But FAU just feels way too public to me. I still think they're another team. I really liked Northwestern when they were fully healthy, and now they got two injuries. But Boo-Boo is fantastic. I think Northwestern will make enough outside shots. And I like being on the other side of the public in that one.

So I do have Northwestern playing UConn. You guys always talk about fading the public. I know you talk about a lot in college football season. Is the public stupider in football or in basketball in the college game? I feel like with the bracket it is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because it's really centrally focused. Don't you feel like you know everybody's underdog picks? Yeah Yeah, like that that's that's that's that's the good part of the days leading up is you really oh you like oh I got it. You like James Madison to got it They get talked up the those teams certain teams get talked up to a point We're like it feels like everyone's on this team

Yeah, I also just think in terms of like fading the public, you can't just fade the public. That's impossible because the public does win. But whenever you have events that have a massive amount of like, I don't want to say casuals, but casuals gambling, it definitely changes the dynamic. No doubt. No doubt. And it's, it's, and like I said, I'm caught in it with Wisconsin in the final four with my, the, the hardest thing to do projecting and betting in sports is to forget what the team looked like their last time out.

Yeah. Right. And they lost Wisconsin did, but they were fantastic, you know, in, in what they did. New Mexico was as good as they played all year. did. New Mexico was as good as they played all year and it's hard to, you know, that New Mexico Clemson, I mentioned it before, that's the, there's not a bigger difference in perception of teams with how hot New Mexico is and how not good Clemson looked in their last game. So I do feel like that, but I always have an 11 going to the sweet 16 and New Mexico is mine this year. Oh, OK. Any upsets, any one or two seeds that should at least be on beyond the Steve alert? I think Houston, Houston, just because they're not healthy and the way they play with just, you know, getting up under your defensively and making everything so hard and not being an uptempo team at the same

time gives me a notion that teams can hang around with them and a and M has guys that can score some buckets and so does Nebraska. So that that I think Houston has the toughest matchup when it comes to second round games for the one seat North Carolina. Nevermind. No, you could say that. No, because I mean this will be Saturday preview too. So if North Carolina is playing Mississippi state or Michigan state, that's the next, that's the next toughest to me. Yeah. Cause I think people will be shocked. So if Michigan state wins their first round game, I think people will be shocked when that line comes out and it's like double digits. No, I think it's gonna be way less. I think it'd be shocked when that line comes out and it's like double. No, I think it's me way less

I think it'd be like North Carolina favored by like five No, it'll be at least seven. You think so? Yes. Okay. All right. We'll make a bet We'll make a wing bet on that. I like that betting on a bet. Yeah, we're betting on a bet betting on a bet So I have anything under seven Yeah, okay and sevens a push sevens a push. Sevens a push. Seven Max when I went on seven on the guest. No. Well you said you said double digits. So I think seven has to be a push. Seven and a half. You were listening to me. Yeah. No I'm listening. I'm listening. What what is the March man is set up look like for Stanford Steve because you don't

go to Vegas. You go to Vegas for Conference Championship. Did that, ACC was here, so I did that. I will split some time here at the Great Cleveland Park Bar and Grill in DC, watching games there with all the TVs. And then my setup is really good at home. I got four TVs ready to go, so they will be on constantly and I will be on constantly, and I will be on the couch. I do like to watch a lot of these games by myself.

It's the fantasy football mentality. I think going out to watch NFL regular season games now is, what do they call, New Year's Eve is a JV holiday now. Yeah. I feel like that's a JV way of going because all anyone is yelling about is their fantasy team. Yeah, it just drives me nuts. But I do like to get around the energy. So I'll do that Thursday and the night sessions I'll be at home locking in with all the TVs going and only four TVs. That's all I need. Do you have a just have a fifth

and I T's going to be play. I guess doesn't play exactly. Saturday they play some NIT games early. What do you think about Villanova's chances in the NIT. Depends if they want to play. Okay. Yeah. What do you think would be funny if they finished second. That would be the best. Would you watch a Mac Max live stream of the NIT game. I'm trying to get them to live stream. No one wants to watch that. I would would what about a personal feed just for me and you Steve. Would you watch it? I FaceTime in a couple times. Okay. Yeah, I think you just described FaceTime just Max just FaceTime big cat Yeah Max's max watches Only fans. Oh, we should put Max's Max watches only fans. Oh, just get only fans

feed of Max watching all his sports. Why is him being sad? We could get so much money from that. Just give out a cell phone number. Yeah. That's a good point. We're going to get back to Stanford. Steve, he's brought to you by visible PMT is one take episode is brought to you by our friends at Visible Wireless. Ever wish you could call foul on your wireless carrier for their hidden fees? Then it's time to switch to Visible. Switch to Visible, the wireless company with nothing to hide, and get one line wireless with unlimited 5G data powered by Verizon, just 25 bucks a month.

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they were great Saturday. I'll tell you that. What do you think the over under would be on Saturday? Saturday I got more time because the games start later. So I'll make sure to get something. I'll get, I've been trying to do the five miles a day. VFT. Really? Yeah. Yeah. So driving, not driving. There's a majority jogging. There's been some, we've been uptickin on the running. Um, but uh, yeah, we've been, we've been trying 35 miles last week. Wow. Steve walks. Yeah. See what,. As a protector of Scott Van Pelt, and you've done a very good job of that, you are his bouncer. Charles Oakley. Yeah, Charles Oakley. Was there any hesitation having him do Frank walks? No. Okay.

You didn't think that Frank was just going to throw him into the reflecting pool? No. No, no, no. Because Scott deserves a lot of credit. He is an every man. I, when we were setting it up, I was like, Scott, will you do this? He's like, no problem. I was like, all right, who should I contact to get it? Your schedule set. And he's like, just have him text me. So Scott was texting with Jenks and maybe Frank. And like, I don't know many guys in Scott's shoes. It would be like, yeah, just throw him my number. And he was in, he was all the way in there. There's been a long lost love.

I would say all along. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. They did find some common ground there. Yeah. Yeah. It's beautiful. Yeah. I mean, there's not, there's not better. I mean, Francesca was walking to feel it felt like on the street during garbage day, they had garbage trucks going around and Scott was down by the reflective pool. It was, it was, it was gorgeous. Yeah. There was a second when Frank started talking about vaccines that you could see the look on Scott's face where he's like, what, what have I gotten myself into? He's great at changing the subject. Did a wonderful job with that. TFT, I never got back to you after game day at JMU, like being at game day every Saturday and then like doing like we did. We left the

office FaceTime a couple of friends to check in that got mentioned on the show and then we made our way to the tailgate and the game and I would rank JMU as the biggest amount of drunkness I saw walking from the office to the stadium. Yeah, yeah. Do you remember how messed up people were? Yeah, they got after it. And it was also like- It was one o'clock in the afternoon.

It was a very special occasion too. I expect like a big state school, like an LSU, probably the average BAC over the course of a season's worth of Saturdays, probably higher. But since it was college game day day and the stakes were so high Oh, it was like just a big it was like like you said st. Patrick's day for central, Virginia. It was wonderful Yeah, the amount of prone women we asked for directions to the tailgate Yeah, they just couldn't even speak they had no idea

Numerous well, they changed the campus up so much since a lot of those people had been there. They're like, I don't know, the library used to be over here. OK. All right, thank you, man. Take care. No, it was a very fun time. I'm glad that we got to experience that together.

And the FaceTimes afterwards, pretty incredible. If you follow Texas football message boards, you can probably put together who we were talking with and her monkey. Her monkey was also there. Was there. Yeah. Fantastic time. Steve, off the tournament question, are Hank Celtics going to win the NBA title? No. Oh, fuck. Oh, they're so good Steve. I will say this. Sounds like a yes. I want it to be Denver, Boston, because

that's, that's what I want in the NBA. Like all this stuff about the teams and the drama off the court and all the stuff that whatever, NBA, Twitter loves to talk about, you won't have in that game, you will have the best player in the world going to one of the most storied franchise, if not the most storied franchise, trying to get back on top. Like that's what that sport needs to me,

because when it comes to pure basketball, I believe those are two best teams, but I don't see Boston beating Denver because he's the best player. Oh, your comments, Hank. I'd like to see it happen. I think you would. You think they'll be in the finals? It's a team game, Stanford, Steve. Understood. Understood. All right. Denver's got a pretty good team. Like, Jokic plays pretty good team basketball. Yeah. It doesn't matter. Like, you four could go out there. Yeah. Yeah.

You'll get a couple wins in the playoffs. Yeah, he'd get us some open looks. For sure. Steve, back to the Frank...the Frank Walks thing again. So, I don't know how involved behind the scenes you are in the graphics department on Sports Center. But maybe one time this season, as a treat, as a treat,

if the Mets lose, could you actually have the logo spin? And have Have Scott's head spin as they go into Sports Center Because Frank has made up this entire like fictional world in his head Yeah, where Scott loves it when the Mets lose and his head starts spinning around just like you don't have to talk about it But just as Sports Center's intro just have like a little SVP logo with the head spinning or maybe yeah Or maybe like a if you do Sunday night baseball and the Mets lose like maybe like a pinata of Frank and be like Mets Lose Mets lose

Because what we're doing it's actually sick What we're doing is we're taking Frank's fictional world of torture that he's made for himself and we're turning it into reality. But I think that's actually good for Frank because he'd be like, see, I was right all along. Yeah, that would be the end. Yeah, he would win that one. Yeah. No, but we've done the optimism meter with me and I'm a diehard born loser Mets fan and

it's just, I've seen it too many times. That is funny that you are a diehard Mets fan and you are on that show and still, Frank, is like they hate the Mets. Yeah, yeah. There's not a team I love more than them, but I've come to reality to expect the worst. Well, you're UConn Huskies.

No, they're not my team. Steve, what do you think about Major League Baseball's strategy of having opening day overseas during the NCAA tournament? Quite something. When you say it out loud like that, it sounds just about as bad as you can get. Yeah. Yeah, it's brutal. Steve, what- Especially when they're trying to get back to where they were. Yeah. You know? Yeah. That one's tough.

What team in the tournament would have worked worse for your, or the poorest nickname? Because you're Stanford Steve, but like would Grand Canyon Steve have worked if you had gone there? St. Peter's Steve? That would have worked. I always think about that. You went to Stanford SS, but like what happens if you had decided to go to McNeese State?

How about Drake, Steve? Drake, Steve would be good. Get a little fade going. Your whole life would be different if you went somewhere. I mean, you could have been Notre Dame, Steve. Nah, could have. Drake, Steve, you've got a huge dog. Do you regret not going to Notre Dame? I don't. I don't.

Why? You would have been able to get like a cushy job as an executive somewhere in Chicago. Yeah, but that's not fun. I guess that's probably an important point. Florida Steve would never get a job. Florida Steve would rock. Yeah, you'd be a lot of fun to hang out with. Yeah.

I don't know if Florida Steve would be alive. Wait, what were the other schools that you were deciding between? North Carolina. North Carolina Steve would be cool. Yup. Duke. Duke Steve would suck.

Yeah. Howard Steve? Not Howard. Grambling Steve? Yeah. Southern Steve. Southern Steve would be awesome. Keith Rock, yeah.

Tarleton State Steve? Billy Clyde. There's a lot of Steve's. South Carolina would be hard to say. Yeah, South Carolina Steve would be weird. I did get a t-shirt one time from Samford that it's there. They made shirts that said Sam, not Stan. It had the bulldog.

That's good. What about BYU Steve? No. So can Steve. So can Steve. All right, Steve, I got one last question for you. It's a row back question. R-H-O-B-A-C-K right Steve. I got one last question for you. It's a rowback question. All right. Joe B a c k dot com. Jake you do. You owe me some gear. Yeah you

do. You own some gear. I'm on it. Promo code take 20 percent off. First purchase rowback dot com joggers hoodies shorts everything. Rank your three favorite bets on Friday as people are listening to this and they are saying I need a winner and Stanford Steve's gonna give us a winner three favorite bets on Friday okay we're gonna start with New Mexico I mentioned Donovan Dent barely played in that title game I think he's a difference to have an extra ball handler against Clemson Jamal Mashburn jr. I'm biased Jamal Mashburn his dad was my favorite people ever

to work with at ESPN. We'll take New Mexico. I like A&M. Wade Taylor the fourth, I think is a tremendous player. And I like the matchup for A&M for a full 40 minutes against Nebraska. And I believe UAB is getting too many points against San Diego state. When you look at what UAB is, I love Andy Kennedy, just a phenomenal dude. They got six guys that average about eight points, eight points or more a game. And we love how San Diego state loves to dial it back, you know, play defense, slow pace. I believe UAB has enough guys to keep that game close enough. So we're going to go to New Mexico, A&M and new way B. Okay. And your final four, my final four, where is it? Is your one bracket guy, right? You're one bracket guy. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Good. Thank God. And are you a

highlighter guy? Uh, when it's going good. Yeah. Okay. Depends on like Saturday, we'll make that decision. Yeah. Or we just throw it out. Yeah If we get the Saturday and feel good, that's always a good feeling But again be kid don't don't go multiple brackets this year because you're never gonna get the combinations right with how you separate Yeah, I have you con North Carolina, Tennessee and Wisconsin Okay, I Fucking love this time of year so much. It's the best, best two days of the year. Hmm.

Ooh. What do you like more? I like last Friday and Saturday. Yeah. I mean, I do love conversations. I mean, if you Saturday, like that's what it's about of all those bids getting stolen because now you the angst that like usually it's like one or two bubble teams that are worried, you know, like going in, it was Indiana state where all the big boys still had games to play, but then they lost. And then all these teams being that at the, in DC for the NC state run was incredible. Yeah. Like those guys walking in for the games, like Thursday

see a big man walk. I was like, he's he's got to get himself ready sure enough he plays 17 minutes in that first half against North Carolina and was awesome he's so smooth so okay so who do you have in your finals uh you can Tennessee you can tell us Tennessee and then you can winning it all yeah yeah okay congrats to Wisconsin Shrek I don't like this final four bound and I thought it was boss. I just I trust your opinion So that is anybody not allowed in the room during JMU, Wisconsin Well, no, he's gonna be at the game gonna be at that. So you're going I got kill me I've had a wedding I've had to go to for I committed to it eight months ago a Friday wedding during March Madness

That's worse than football, but but it's I'm sorry. It's in Brooklyn and it's 10 minutes away from the arena. So after the wedding, I'm just going to go over probably still wearing my wedding tux and just go straight to the event and just sit there. It's the big dance, Steve. I'm going to be ready dressed up for a big dance. This is, this is very easy. You just go Chippendales costume to the game. Yeah. I go shirtless with the bow tie. No one wants to see that Hey, wait, Hank. What did you say? Well me and PFT have this bracket Buster's team where if you know you advances the farthest we we get to split 40 grand So I'm gonna be all JMU Friday night. So I'll be yeah, I'll be catching the rat

I'll be I'll be going nuts at Hank as piece of shit. He is a piece of shit So you're in the room? Yeah, And I will be mad at him. Actually, Hank, we were talking about having the EBO put on the wig and glasses. Hank should have to do that. Yeah. I'm going to be mad at you. I will take out the wrath on Hank. It's going to be Friday and March madness. Crazy. It's a tough one. Crazy. Did they look at the calendar? That's, that's the major question. I can say with confidence that they did not. All right. I will say for a benefit, this is a week later. Yeah. Yeah. Like this, this year's weird with, you know, masters being the middle of August or April. Um, so yeah. Okay. Uh, be in touch and, uh, see you guys in Phoenix. Yes. Yep.

See in Phoenix wings on Friday, Friday, Friday for the women's final four. Who do you got in that? Uh, I got, well, I got, uh, Iowa LSU. No, they are. I know. I know. Uh, I got LSU, Stanford, Yukon line. Help me. South Carolina. There you go. Yeah. Yeah. South Carolina. They're undefeated, right? There you go. Okay. Get it. Feed it. Yes. That's my final four. I don't know if they even play each other early, but that's fine. Oh, okay. I'm good. That's lock it up. There's been more buzz about the women's game this year. It's good. Like some of the teams hate each other, which I personally love. Yeah. They have more star power. Oh, by far. That's

far. That's the one thing about, about women's sports. I think a lot of has like pushed a lot of people away in the past is it seems to be too positive and you have to hate somebody, right? Yeah. So getting some hatred, some rivalries going, that's good for the sport. We want to, we want to be like Caitlin Clark sucks. flops, you know, I like we want to have those takes I think the only thing that would surpass the women's Final Four is if Kentucky gets the Final Four I feel like the America will be go hard on the Reed Shepherd bandwagon Because the story with his parents and all that stuff Kentucky that may be crying college when they beat Stanford in the Final Four Yeah, so I think that that's that's think that that's got the March Madness storylines

written all over it. Yeah. Texas brackets up for grabs. That's what Stanford is, too, just so you know. That's mayhem in that bracket. OK. All right, I like that. All right, Steve, thank you, as always.

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Henry, want to kick us off? Throw on those headphones, the cans on Hank. Come on, Hank. Throw those cans on. I mean, it's the best. It's the best week of the year. It really is. It is a fun week. It's hard to really be mad because It's like yeah, you know I Didn't do the best gambling, but it's also like we get to do it again tomorrow, and it's today was Thursday tomorrow's Friday

We get to do it all weekend Oh Friday's the weekend No, we get to do it tomorrow, and then and then the weekend days and and two weekend days It's an absolute treat So I can't there's really no fire first that comes to mind we got a shooting machine I guess we can talk about the Rick Patino drill now that the video is out That was a really bad shooting performance So we have a shooting machine big cat is adamant that he's a better shooter than me well

Well the stats show you exactly who's back so that's kind of my fire That's can't it this is I said to pee I don't last night but I finally a very small sample side I finally understand what PFT goes through when you guys play golf and PFT beats you every time you're like, oh, no No, we're actually even I beat you in the Rick Pitino We were this on the same team for the Rick Pitino shooting drill, which we got to do again Beacher and the Rick Pitino, we were on the same team for the Rick Pitino shooting drill, which we gotta do again, but I shot better than you. And then we got this new shooting machine,

and yesterday we did, Hank and I were like, let's shoot 10 three-pointers, and whoever has the most wins, and the first round I won six to five out of 10, and Hank goes, well, I didn't count, I might've hit six. Second round I won seven to four, and he he's like all right. We'll do one more Third round I won again like seven to six and then Hank shot again and hit four and then you left and I hit eight And you're like no no no it's like you would have just made me stick there forever

It's okay. I want one of them. No you didn't know it really did not and Hank all right So yeah, that is all recorded on tape and then the ones that aren't record on tape The shooting machine has stats that you can look at which that should be my fire fest memes We we got this new shooting machine. It's awesome, and they set me up with a profile And then memes texted me at like midnight last night, and he's like big cat You're gonna probably need a new profile. I was like what and he's like me and Max just shot like a thousand shots and Max said Oh, yeah, I was chucking air balls. So my stats are fucked So really this entire office has become just a big game of

What's the coolest thing that we can get installed and still have people actually do work? Yeah, we did popcorn machine We did the shooting machine. We have a golf simulator. We're going to get a, we're going to get a batting cage. We're going to get a flight sim. Yep. I think he wants to get a barber chair. Yep. I do. I want to get a barber chair. Hank here's, you know what Hank, we won't get a barber chair if you can, if you can prove that you're a better three point shooter than me,, but you're not I will I will and that's that's again You know it's it's it's my year. It's my proof of year. I gotta prove it I like Hank is looking at my own shooting like it's like it's art like it's subjective

Yeah, I'm just like better than well it depends on who you ask like sometimes Like big cap BV my maybe every time we shoot I shoot better than you well We'll do an official official contest. I beat you know what about chilies you guys so max Like big cap BV my maybe every time we shoot I shoot better than you well We'll do an official official contest. I beat you know what about chilies? What do you guys so max? I'll ease I beat Max has early on said I beat you in Chili's contest to max has early every time we've done it I've beaten you so max has early on said Fleming Hank has early on said Billy football Yeah, this is he does this entire last 45 seconds has been verbatim a Billy football excuse.

But I'm at least, it's just the realization which is kind of like, you know, people have watched this grow, as watched me grow on this podcast, and it's just the realization that I'm like super, super, super washed up. Not that I was ever really like, Yeah, you're actually more washed up than we are.

In my prime when I was younger. Which is crazy. Like I was never like a prime athlete in my early 20s, but I was I was decent But now I've just you know slowly realized that I'm really washed up and the only way to unwash yourself up is to really work Hard and train and that's what I've started doing and I just got to keep keep going at it Can you ever really be washed if you were never dirty to begin with? Yeah, I just wasn't that dirty. Yeah, you were never filthy. I honestly don't like no offense to you, but I don't think it's like a washed up thing. I think just PFT are better athletes. And that's where it's just false. It's not false.

Hank, what place did you finish in the combine? Nine years older than you and still better athletes than you. All right. Yeah, I think both me and big cat beat you in every combine event of course we did know What I beat you I don't know I'm not I definitely beat you in something. Yeah, this is Billy. You're really I'm rooting for you It's a big brother little brother. You know what I'll let you win the next one All right PFT by my firefest is twofold one. I I forgot my keys at the stream So I don't know how I'm gonna get home tonight. I think so bring them right now. Oh, I think someone's bringing back to the office It's after midnight right now. I have early onset Billy Max's early onset Frank Fleming PFT is early onset dementia

Yes, correct. Correct. Yeah, Billy actually true Billy does act like he has CTE I I probably have CTE before Billy does yeah played more organized sports at a high level My other fire fest is that I'm traveling during March Madness tomorrow. Yeah, when's your flight? That's why actually yeah Yeah, it is. It is crazy. So my flight is a your packed either. I know definitely well the only thing I'm packing It's a one-night thing for a wedding wedding So I'm packing a suit and that's it. So also it doesn't matter. You can't get into your house I can't get in my house. Oh, yeah, I can't pack anything. Yeah So I'm gonna be flying during the early games tomorrow. What time's your flight? Just tough. I think it's at noon. Oh

Dude, I think it's at noon tomorrow. That's brutal. It's brutal and what airline? What what do you ask TVs? I think it's at noon tomorrow. That's brutal. It's brutal. And what airline? What? Why do you ask? TVs. American? Nope. No TVs? I think Delta is a TV place.

I can't keep track of which ones have TVs, as long as it's not a Boeing. I think Delta is guaranteed. Also, United and American can be. It's really hard. It's really hard to watch live sports on a flight, because if you look at your phone, you're like three minutes faster. Yeah. You can't look at Twitter.

Yeah. You can't look at your score apps. And every time the, uh, the pilot gets on the horn and being like, Oh, sorry, the flight didn't hit a switch. Now we're going to crash. Every time they interrupt you, they just cut out the stream. And it's always, always at the most important time of game that they do that. So I'm going to be flying during the games tomorrow, which stinks. Then I'm going to be at a wedding during some of the other games, which, uh, yeah, I love love. I'm in favor of people getting married, go for it. Um, March weddings

are a choice. Friday, March wedding is a choice. I committed to it eight months ago and I knew that this was going to be a problem as an ultimate future. Me being like, yeah, you know what? I'm going to go to this wedding. I'm going to miss some of the games. I'm going to sneak watch some of the games. That's my plan. During the reception, during probably the ceremony too. And because I'm only flying for one night and I'm not bringing really too many clothes

and I'm going to the JMU Wisconsin game right after the wedding ends, I'm just going to have to go in a suit. So I'm going to be wearing a tux to the game. That's fun. It's the big dance. Yeah, that's fun. And we're going dancing.

Yeah. But the whole situation, and then I have to fly back on Saturday during the games, also during the early game. Oh. But yeah, tomorrow's gonna be a challenge for me. What's gonna happen is I'm gonna land, I'm gonna open up my phone,

and I'm gonna see how much money I lost. That's how it's gonna go. I'm gonna look at it. It's really no different than what we're gonna do. I'm gonna look at a number, then I'm gonna get up my phone, and I'm gonna see how much money I lost mm-hmm That's how it's gonna go. I'm gonna look at really no different than what we're gonna I'm gonna look at a number Yeah, then I'm gonna get on the plane and then when I get off the plane that number will be much smaller change That's that's how I'm spending my March Madness tomorrow, so I am I apologize to you guys for not being at the stream tomorrow Apologize to anyone that wanted to watch me and big cat at each other's throats I'm I'm the one that suffers the most from this by the way Oh, yeah, you touching me is a problem. Yeah, thanks gotten very gropey

Yeah, well no, but I'm also you know PFT picked JMU is our bracket Buster's team So I have no choice but to root for JMU against Wisconsin Hank really didn't want to pick JMU I know I wanted to pick Big head just gonna lash out on me when it's like I'm just trying to support the company My rooting for my my Dave and Buster's team Hank. I'm counting on you to be as annoying as possible I don't want to be I just want to like know naturally people get in trouble for not for not promoting He doesn't he doesn't have to try he yeah, he could just be well today It's like we had to do a huddle up thing And I you know what do you do when you huddle up you grab your teammates shoulders, and you bring them together

I did that and big actual. You want to bet a big bet. I lost a big bet. Who do you think you are? I think immediately after you're you're like touching me and touching my neck. It's a technical foul. It should have been a technical foul. You touch above the shoulders.

That's a technical foul. That's all I want. He pinned the arm down. Big cat pulled me over and then I dropped everything on my and then stole my phone grant theft auto Is that an auto is yeah? I do think that it's the universe though smiling on this podcast a little bit big cat because of all the times that Of all the things that could happen our teams playing each other Yeah, but it's on a day when we're not going to be in the same room where we won't get into a fight with each other

Yes, we might the losers definitely will be mad looking at the social media posts from the winner I'm gonna be just mad if the Wisconsin losing be mad at Wisconsin like I won't that's the thing is like because it's not it's not like if It was Wisconsin playing Duke and I had to deal with this guy over here who doesn't admit that he's a terrible athlete. I like I'll be very upset if Wisconsin loses but I also will be. 15 minutes doing that. I will be I'll be very happy for you because I love you as a friend whereas this guy over here. I want him to fail.

I'm going to be happy for you too big cat and I'm going to I'm going gonna root for you very hard against Duke or Vermont. I just wanna say right now, if Wisconsin wins, I'm converting my JMU fandom. I want you to absorb our powers. Yes, no, I will do the same. Use those powers to beat Duke or Vermont. Gotta beat Duke. Actually, I hope Duke loses.

Yeah, whenever Duke loses. So it's a pretty bad fire fest. All things considered, you know, could be, it could be worse. But in terms of the sports calendar and travel syncing up, I feel like this is, this is like an equinox of shit for me that I have to deal with. Uh, all right. My fire fest is short and sweet. Uh, I've actually, I've been, I've been, chef Donnie's been cooking for me, been losing

a little weight, working out a little more. Uh, but then I decided to get a haircut and shave right before all of our streams. And I just looked at myself all day. And I just have the fattest neck and I should just never shave before I have to sit on on a couch for four days straight with just the worst angles possible. What happened? I saw every single clip today and I was like, holy fuck, I have not lost weight. What happens is, before we get to the stream, so behind the scenes, Pete sits down behind the cameras and then he has like a sit-in for all of us sit there

and then he just lowers the cameras and gets the perfect angle to take his look as bad as possible. Yeah, so that was a shock today, so just a reminder to not shave right before March Madness, because there's really no way to look before March Madness because there's really no way to look good March Madness streams because you're just eating and sitting and sitting back and just like gross but there's definitely a way to look extra bad and I've

done it. All right Jake finish this off. Yeah this is the best time of year as you guys have said and these are the best three weeks on the sports calendar and I somehow just always feel sad when something goes wrong in my bracket and it's just like, why am I feeling sad? I should be happy. It's March Badness.

So. Yeah, well, your number two seed, or your champion. Champion, North Carolina. Your champion did not lose in the first round. Yeah, but I thought I was being smart by putting Drake in the Elite Eight. That was a devastating loss like we talked about earlier, but there should be no room for sadness here yet. I'm here again

Yeah, mm-hmm damn. I mean, it's kind of nice kind of sweet that you still care that much about your bracket Yeah, that's all I have my integrity. Yeah, and just like yeah, I don't like your integrity's my reputation I don't think your reputation is tied to it either, but sure in my own head Yeah, yeah you're so imagine if we to put it in on this side of the glass like imagine if I was like my reputation is Based on my gambling picks. I would yeah system people would be calling me Hitler But this is like the only time where I publicly make picks on something and hold myself to it. Yeah, it's not fun What about the NFL season? Yeah, what about the bowling? Yeah, that's true. Yeah, that's true

Well, there's no but you don't have a punishment if your bracket gets busted. That's the difference during football season You get punished well, well, I guess a bad Jake bad Jake If you lose your entire Final Four before the sweet 16, you should have to shave max's back. I Final four before the sweet sixteen you should have to shave max's back I Literally have zero hairs like let's go man. I love it max No, no cuz max gets waxed. Oh, yeah, you do get waxed He gets waxed and neared a Brazilian max max has that's what he orders max has the fucking cleanest pussy in this show He's a smooth little Italian Who's my smooth little boy? Yeah, he's like a baby boy. All right.

Let's wrap it up. We'll see everyone on Monday where we'll do a full recap. Shane Gillis episode is going to come on Wednesday. So we're going to do Monday because we don't do it a guest on Mondays. I misspoke a couple of weeks ago. So we'll be coming on Wednesday, but Monday will be just pure talking about everything with the boys Maybe if we get I'll tell you what that Oakland guy hit some more threes and wins a game We might have to have a goal key near goal key. Okay, okay numbers 20 43 I'll go 68 18

99 poke would you say pft 821? I will say Golki's number 3 so I feel good about this guy next to me. 34. Half a 68. Damn. Love you guys. Anyway Beyond me, take me on I'll be gone, after long dream Needless to say, I'm out of sentence But he stole my little way Learnin' learnin' that life is okay Say after me, it's no better to be safe than sorry It's no better to be safe than sorry

Take on me Take me on I'll be gone When I'm gonna take you on, put you down too