Pardon My Take - Derek Carr, Open Championship W/ Shane Bacon + Mt Rushmore Of TV Shows/Movies We’ve Never Seen

Episode Date: July 17, 2024

It’s the slowest day in the sports year and we choose our adventure for the MLB All Star Game (00:00:00-00:10:03). We get mad about an ESPN list (00:10:03-00:18:40). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Jaylen Brown talking about Bronny and Duggs may be in trouble (00:18:40-00:39:31). Mt Rushmore of TV Shows/Movies we’ve never seen (00:39:31-01:12:12). Saints QB Derek Carr joins the show to talk about his career, watching his brother play in the NFL, Antonio Brown, New Orleans, whether he wears Mascara and tons more (01:12:12-01:57:06). Shane Bacon joins us to preview this weekends final Major, the Open Championship at Royal Troon (01:57:06-02:19:10). We then finish with Guys on Chicks (02:19:10-02:26:38).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. On today's pardon my take, we have a twofer for the people. We have Derek Carr, an interview we thought we'd never do. Yeah. But it was awesome. He's a great guy.

We are Derek Carr fans now. Great interview with him. Got some awesome stories. Talked about his career. We also have our good friend Shane Bacon on to preview the Open Championship. You thought this was going to be the worst week in sports, but we have the Open Championship. We get to wake up at, I think, 4.09 on Thursday to watch Max Homa play. We're going to do a choose your own adventure of the All-Star Game.

We have the Mount Rushmore that will probably piss the most people off, because we're gonna do the Mount Rushmore of movies or shows that we have not seen. This is gonna make people very angry. I don't know how they're gonna react in the voting process, if they're gonna see like really all-time classics that we pick and get mad at us.

Yeah, and then vote against us. And not vote against us. Not vote for us. Yeah. But it's going to be great. And then we're going to do hot sea cool thrown. We have guys on chicks packed show for you on Wednesday and we're brought to you by our friends at draft Kings. It's finally here. Best ball week at draft Kings. Here's why it's a big deal. Draft Kings best ball millionaire contest is their biggest fantasy contest ever. We're talking 15 million guaranteed prize pool with two, that's right, two millionaires being crowned for first and second place. If you're a set

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it took was one horrific national anthem to steal the night. Yeah, that was a tough way to get it started. Very tough way. And that's the story though of the home run derby was that national anthem. The story was how bad, I mean, Donald Trump getting his ear shot off maybe had the right idea. Didn't have to listen to that. Ah man. That was bad.

I didn't tweet that out last night. Oh good. I didn't. I thought about it. And then I saw all the memes happen and I was like, okay, now it's a safe space to do it. Yeah, it's the Klay Thompson ear bleeding. It's the ear bleeding.

It was horrific. It was- Who was it? It was awful. I don't know, but apparently she's, she's been nominated for several Grammy awards. What? Yeah. It's, it seemed like a prank in real time. It really did it because it w and it also, it was so bad. It was one of those videos that you pulled it up on your phone and started playing it. People would look and be like, are you watching porn? Yeah. Cause there was like some shrieks in there. Ingrid and dress.

Oh, Ingrid, that's tough. Yeah, and then the end, when she tried to really do something at the end with the scoops, it was awful. The home run derby itself stunk too. It was bad. I mean, there's countless ways that you can improve the home run derby. We just want to see all the dingers.

Yeah. We want to see the ball hit the bat. We want to see the ball sail. We want to see it land. And then we want to wait for the next pitch. Yes. Is that so hard to do? It shouldn't be that hard to fix this. No. Shout out the Oscar Hernandez. Yeah, the Oscar Hernandez. L Oscar. Yeah. Had a great night. Yeah. Winning the Home Run Derby. Heed Alonso. Bad night. And that's all he cares about. Yeah. But yeah, it was, I don't know, I wish,

Home Run Derby used to mean something, man. We sound like old men, but I feel like it's the truth. It is the truth. I think our idea that we had last year was one of the best, which is if you test positive for steroids, you can get out of your suspension by winning the Home Run Derby. Yeah. Breaking Moose.

Do do do do do do do. Give us a cow, Max. Duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh. Is that woo? Woo. Woo. So we already taped earlier today, but the national anthem, Ingrid Andress,

released a statement saying, I'm not gonna bullshit y'all. I was drunk last night. I'm checking myself into a facility today to get the help I need. That was not me last night. I apologize, Sam O'B. All the fans in this country. I love so much for that rendition I'll let you all know how rehab is I hear it's super fun

Hopefully she gets better Also incredible move because now this goes down like if she gets better It goes down as like the funniest coolest national anthem ever. This is how I knew to turn my life around Yeah, because I made America weep. Yeah. This is how I knew to turn my life around. Yeah. Because I made America weep. Yeah. So yeah, I hope she's good. She says, see you in rehab.

Here, it's fun. Oh. So I don't know if that's accurate or not. I don't know who she should talk to about rehab. Yeah. If I screwed up the national anthem, this would be a good PR 101 move though. In a second, yeah.

It's always a great move just whenever you screw anything up to say, I'm seeking treatment. Right. I need to work on myself. I'm seeking treatment. But yeah, that was, I mean, at least now we have an explanation for it. Because that would have been bad for her singing career

if that was actually her. Yeah. And also, in the actual home run derby, Max, was there controversy in your Phillies guy losing the semifinals? Yeah, are you talking about the foul ball? Well, I'm talking about that and also the format. I don't know.

I heard a rumor that they did a different format than they were supposed to do. I don't know if that's true or not. Oh, I did not know that. And the foul ball didn't really seem that controversial, but I didn't hear that So I just kind of guessed oh We hit a home run his last swing of like the regular round was close being a home run But it was pretty clearly foul I think some some Philly people thought that it was supposed to be a 60 second swing off in the semi-finals

Ah, but MLB changed it to just what three screw short were the other year. They did yeah Yeah, so this is they got it out for Philly it to just what three screw Schwerber the other year. They did. Yeah. Yeah. So this is they got it out for Philly. Uh, okay. That was breaking moves back to what we were talking about. Um, and then we have the all star game, which will choose your own adventure. Cause we're going to hit some dingers tonight. Uh, Paul skeins was electric. He was chaneled MLB by the way, for actually doing the right thing and having Paul skein start this game. Well, Rob Mayford said that if they didn't make the right decision, they would have stepped in. So apparently the manager made the call.

That's a, but then Rob Manford trying to get credit for something that he that's bullshit. I would have done it too. Rob Manford said they did. They screwed it on the al side because they else future al Cy Young Tariq Scoobel is not starting. Uh, and he is going to be the al Cy Young as that guy sent me the envelope. What are you laughing about? I said per you in Detroit. Yeah, no, well not per me. Per the guy who gave me the envelope that said bet him right now. He is the odds on favor right now. Nice. Yeah. So he's having a great year. Did the NL win? How many years in a row is it?

The NL, nine and one AL, I think. In the last 10? Yeah. The NL did not win, sadly, tonight. Damn it. It's hard to win on the road. It's hard to win on the road. Hostile crowd.

All right, so that's another loss for the NL. Brutal. You know what? I'm going to say the NL won. That way we can cover both our bases. You think they broke the streak this year? Yeah, I don't know what the streak is at right now. What is it at?

NL All-Star losing streak. I do think they won one. Uh, oh no, they won. They they won one. They won last year, right? I think the streak was over last year. It was nine games in nine years in a row. The midsummer classic, who could forget? Yeah, they stopped. Yeah. How could we forget last year in the NL one? So so a L is gonna a L is gonna win. The L is gonna win max is looking it up right now By the way, we have our interns starting on Wednesday, correct? Mm-hmm tomorrow

Today today today very excited to introduce him to you He's gonna have to because because we we obviously, you know Jake left We we need a someone who's on their computers who's can just be like and this guy by the way I don't think this kid he's not gonna be able to do that but he's gonna at least give us moments where we're like okay based on his past I don't think we should allow him near a computer yes that's correct we'll have him tell the story when he gets debuted on Friday well we'll introduce him to the audience and he he had one story that basically hooked us for life based on content. But the, yeah, so the NL won last year, who could forget?

We obviously knew that. But the AL had won nine in a row before that. So the streak is over, AL's back on top. AL's back on top. And a new streak begins right now. Oh, maybe a new streak starts with the NL. I'm back on the NL. You think the NL, it's flipped? This has been some really interesting talk. With a bigger basis? PFT, before we get to our Mount Rushmore and our Hot Sea Cool Throne, I was cruising around

the internet trying to find some sports stuff going on. This is the deadest week in the sports calendar by far. And that means that ESPN will do something that, remember when they ranked states, I believe? Was it states? Did they do states? Because I've got a, I've ranked states before. I can't remember, they did,

SVP did something back in the day where it was either states or- License plates? Whatever. Who's now? Who's now was one of them. They're doing the top 100 athletes. That was what I was gonna bring up.

So top 100 professional athletes since 2000 and they released numbers 51 through 60 today. American Pharaoh? Alex Ovechkin, 54. How do we feel about that? Also, which makes us- Just don't respect hockey. That one's, Derek, this is a great hat tip to ESPN, an incredible engagement troll move. They ranked Derek Jeter 53 and that would get people very upset. But then

you remember he won the majority of his championships in the nineties in the nineties. So that was a, that was a savvy savvy move by them takes out the meat of his career. Yeah. They should have done like MJ 100. That's bullshit. That's bullshit that OV is so far down. Like Hank said, it's disrespectful to hockey. It's disrespectful to the entire country of Russia. The man is about to surpass Wayne Gretzky for the top goal scorer of all time in the NHL. What hockey players would be above them? I don't know, but they also ranked he was above two soccer players. Why do we have soccer in this? Luca Modric and Alexia Patel us. Okay. Yeah. Why would he JJ Watt 58? That's got to make you feel a little better. Yeah. JJ Watt. He should

be higher though. I know that's what I'm saying. It should make you feel better about Ovechkin because JJ Watt is very, very good. These lists are designed to make you mad. Yeah. That's what they exist for. It's like, oh, they have track and field and Apple did their top 10 albums of all time. I think they had Frank Ocean, a head of Stevie Wonder. Yeah, this is a crazy list. They they've gone every sport. There's something there's more soccer and track and fish on whites on their Mookie Betts Hank 73. Great player. I don't think there's gonna be a single Bryce Harper 79 Yeah, these are Chris Paul 83. Yeah, these are just made to make you mad. We should do ours. Oh

I have a prediction we should do our top 100. I have a prediction. Yeah, I think ESPN's go put serene and number one. Oh Just to make people mad. Tigers got to be very high. Tigers going to be up there. Tiger also started in the nineties. That's true. But his the Masters win. Yeah. Dominant Masters. But the tiger slam was in the 2000. Rory was 93. Yeah, I think you're right. I think they'll do three. They're going to go like Serena one and Then like like the rest of the top 10 is gonna be the US women's national team. Yeah, American Pharaoh should be top 10 Flight line. Yeah flight line flight line should be number one Connor Mcdavis 98 and

Ed Reed Charles Woodson 100. Okay. So yeah, this is gonna make us mad. Yeah, that's fine. They have now hooked me They've hooked me into it. I got to see do you think they'll do Serena over like Tom Brady? He's Tom Brady also has the perfect His his career was literally the last 20 years. Yeah, it started 2001, right? Yeah, it should be Tom Brady Serena duking it out for number one overall and LeBron as well LeBron also was so it's it should be Brady LeBron also was, so it should be Brady, LeBron, Serena, but it will be Serena, LeBron, Brady. Maybe Sasha Tendulkar, the cricket player.

Yeah, that could throw him in there. This will be spicy. How high does the Holmes go? I mean, shout out to ESPN for figuring out a way to fill up July. Yeah. Adrian Beltran was 52. This right now, today, this is when we should be talking about the NBA NFL debate. Yep. This exact day right now, Austin Rivers should have gone on McAfee show and dropped that bomb on us. Yup. Got us through two weeks. This is a hot dog is a sandwich. We wasted two weeks. Yeah. During the NBA playoffs and NHL playoffs, when we could just make a meal out of that. We said it in real time too. Yeah, this is not when we're supposed to do this

We're supposed to wait But yeah, I'm hooked now now the real question is gonna be who is going to be the best male tennis player on the list? Joe Federer be show Kovach joke of itch. I think we can agree Nadal last and the doll for sure last I don't be Federer Yeah, which is bullshit because Djokovic Worked him multiple times and has more can be doctors He's 16 years older I know this is just gonna happen to me like the everyone it happened with Federer and in Djokovic are a lot closer in age

So are they gonna have any drivers on there? Are they gonna have any like f1 guys on the list? Yeah ever stopping? Lewis Hamilton Hamilton. Yeah Yeah, Lewis. Sir Lewis Hamilton. Yeah, sir. Lewis Hamilton Are you Hank quick check-in? Are you okay with? Jillian Brown and Derek White. Yeah Yeah, why? Because they're NBA champions there was a little jab going back and forth because Derek White got on the team. Jalen Brown was like, I'm not on the team. And he basically was like, this is bullshit. And, but they're also teammates. Yeah. Not afraid

of you or your resources. Jalen Brown said the first thing he did was called Derek White and tell me he loves him. Love that. That's the first thing that he did when he saw he woke up that day. He saw news didn't take a piss when he saw the news also Derek White is the perfect fit and we like Derek White the piece the perfect fit in this on this team that he's gonna go And just be a really good teammate and like you're the 12th guy now Not that he won't play but you want that right right Bench experience. If you added Kyrie or Jalen Brown It might be a little bit different correct. It might not want to be the 12th guy It'll be interesting to see in the top 10

How many of those are Nike athletes on the ESPN list? Very interesting and and start connecting those dots there That's very and it can't just be because Nike has the best athletes on the roster. It's gotta be because Nike's making the call Yeah, yeah He has the best athletes on the roster. It's gotta be because Nike's making the call. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Should we do Hot Seat Cool Throw and then get to our Mount Rushmore? Yeah. Again, the worst day in sports calendar. I'd agree with that.

And the All-Star game, it is sad because I feel like when we were kids, maybe kids liked the All-Star game. Maybe it's just old people never liked the All-Star game. Yeah. Although, no. So I think the All-Star game got eroded. The All-Star game still, the MLB All-Star game still is the best All-Star game by far. Because you can't half-ass throwing 99 miles an hour.

So it's still the best. I did, I noticed that it was the dumbest rule in sports. I did like when it decided home field advantage. And the All-Star game lost a little bit of its luster when interleague play happened. Yeah. And you, cause that was like the cool part of the All-Star games. Like you'll never get to see Paul Skeens versus Aaron Judge.

Yeah. They probably are going to play next week. I think, I think the All-Star game fell off for me when Bud Selig ruled it a tie. That too. That one year when he just stood up in the stands and he waved his arms and said, no, we're done playing right now. That was a bad one.

And growing up, George W. Bush, our former president, his dream job when he was a kid and even as an adult was to be commissioner of Major League Baseball. If George W. Bush had become commissioner of Major League Baseball, the world would be so much better, baseball would be so much better say what you want about the man the fucking all-star game is not ending in a tie with George W Bush what if that meant Bud Selig was president though? Okay, it could have been worse. It could have been worse. Yeah way worse No one gets a bigger pass than Bud Selig, but she looks terrible. I know and he feel like he He just

Everyone just kind of forgets Bud Selic sucked. He's also the name bud does a lot of favors for you Oh, yeah, if your name is bud people like you in general. Yeah, he was the right there in the name He was the least bud of all time. Yeah, you look at bud sealic. That's not his name. He's he's enemy. Yeah, he's like a He's like a Ernie sealic. Yeah, Ernie would have been a good name for but yeah He Ernie Selig would have worked and then I remember he released something They were doing like a profile on Bud Selig and he was like, yeah I got my I get my haircut once a week every Thursday at the same time Nice try bud. That was that was not your hair, but no, no you you couldn't pull fast one on that

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night. It was Celtics Lakers. So they were playing Brawny Jr. Any probably juniors or Lakers to we have I guess people call a bra on brawny No, no, the brawny is his son's name that give a name. It's in the box score That'd be wild of brahms brahmy had a kid who was also is that true? I that's we talked about that a couple weeks ago how it pisses me off that his in the box score You can look it up and it says be James. It's like his name is LeBron James. All right, so Brawny senior. He was watching Brawny senior and they Showed him on the sidelines talking to his girlfriend and you could read his lips and he said I Don't think Brawny's a pro. Yeah, and then his girlfriend said

Yeah, he'll play on the G League though. and he said I don't think so because of his name He's gonna be playing for the Lakers. This is all Lips being red. Yeah, the G League you could you could definitely say he says I don't think brownie's a pro And then the girlfriend definitely says like you can see her say G League I Couldn't really tell what he said after that, but I think the way that he said I don't think brownie's a pro isn't that bad for him Yeah, he also not wrong. Yeah, it's not wrong. No, and also it's not like he was clowning him He was like, I don't think this guy's a pro Yeah, it's not a pro which is probably an accurate say unless we're talking about Call of Duty

In which case shout out to brawny won the Call of Duty. I was my cool throne. Yeah $10,000 cash Yeah, he won the call to Call of Duty for summer League tournament, which that wasn't the craziest part. I mean, one, if you're Brawny, you can't win that. Like, that's just, you're just going to get made fun of the fact that you're very good at video games and you're not good at basketball. Two, Grant Williams is still playing in Summer League? No.

He beat out Brawny for the summer league title in Call of Duty He's probably just there though. You think so. He's not playing somebody only two years I that's what I thought too, but I saw his name and I was like why is grant Williams? There's got to be a different great. Well, I'm a lot of Williams's there are learned. He I'm almost positive It's great. Williams. That's true. We have learned. There's a lot of Williams It that would be crazy if it's impossible. I Don't see him on the roster. So maybe he's just there. Yeah, so he's just hanging out. So Jalen Brown He does okay. Yeah, I guess he's just hanging out Jalen Brown tweeted out

It's a flex to have your son alongside you in the NBA. It reflects greatness and longevity Bronte has all the tools around and be successful. I look forward to watching his growth." So he's kind of walking it back a little bit there. Okay, so that's what his statement is right now. But his statement is a flex. He's basically just being like, yeah, LeBron. Yeah, that's... But he's not a pro.

It's all LeBron's ego. That's what this whole thing is. It's I Don't want to I don't want to get into the it's you know what? It's not sports week But some people could argue that LeBron when he realized that he wasn't gonna win six titles and match MJ He's like what else can I try to get that will they'll say in my goat conversation and having brawny Playing with brawny will be there and you know means nothing MJ son never played it never played in the league, right? That's facts. Mm-hmm, but that's it means nothing but that's exactly what's going on What was angel Reese's reaction because she was sitting next to Jalen Brown's girlfriend her mouth is kind of blocked But she kind of says like he's not and like you can see play the clip You can see her say something like kind of you know, yeah now he's not I

Don't think Brian's a pro. Yeah, see she shakes her head. Yeah Ain't an attractive lady Angel Reese is deep in her phone She's a big phone girl. So You ought to go back to this for a second, but great. Well, I was just playing Call of Duty summer league. I Gotta see what is going on. They probably asked Grant Williams. Hey, we need another player in this tournament Can you come out and do it in conjunction with the summer? I guess well, he's on it Like we said, he's the VP of the players Association. It's very it's just very no Jalen Browns the VP It's very confusing that he was in this tournament, but okay and

Ronnie did earn ten thousand dollars for winning attorney. Yeah, so does that count against the cap? I don't know. I don't know either. So the Call of Duty thing, that was only for Summer League players, right? It's not like Bronnie is a world class Call of Duty player. Apparently not, because Grant Williams is right there. He's not playing in Summer League.

Yeah, you can't win this. You cannot win this if you're Bronnie. Why, he's cracked. He's young. Dude. But he's in phase, dude. The jokes aren he's up he's been so bad now day's up now hank did he get into phase on his own merits or did he get in because his dad's lebron jerry's like a sniper trickshotter so his godfather's nick merck's yeah he's really good he got drafted uh yeah and by

the way i did double check if you go on ESPN it is B dot James and he was one for five, oh for three from three point. Be Hamas. Be Hamas. Yes, be Hamas. Okay, so Jalen Brown, I have no problem with Jalen Brown saying this. This is why ultimately this whole entire thing, I feel awful for Brawny. I really do. Because

he knows guys are saying this. And he knows that like this is going to be said in the locker room. And it's going to be said when he's going up against another team. Everyone's going to look at him and be like, you're only here because you're dad, which I'm not saying he doesn't deserve to be there because of his dad because LeBron James done a ton for the NBA and he's been the best player for the last 20 years. But it has to suck deep down to be like, everyone's talking about me in this way. That does suck, that part sucks,

but I don't feel bad for him because he is in the NBA. I know. He got an NBA contract, he gets to play in NBA games, he's a Los Angeles Laker. If he didn't want all the stuff that goes along with it, all you have to do is say, you know what dad, let's be realistic. I'm not an NBA player. I don't know why he didn't go back to college. goes along with it, all you have to do is say, you know what, dad, let's be realistic. I'm not an NBA player. I don't know why he didn't go back to college.

Yeah. It would have been just as fun. It would have been great. Yeah. Cool Throne's Victor Holland. Yeah. You guys ready to get deep? Let's get deep.

Get deep on me. All right. So this is from Dylan Deathier, who is a writer for golf magazine. Another Trump joke death? Dethier The theater sure defier He said what's on Victor how was mine a lot about the golf swing plus this and

This is a quote from Victor Hovland. What do you think happens after we die? We don't know the establishment will say your neurons will stop firing, your body will rot. Okay. The establishment? That's one explanation. But if you look at our ancestors, there's a huge culture that goes into preparing for the afterlife. Were they just idiots or were they onto something?

Did this guy just discover religion? I'm just curious to find out. We've gotten sold that we have all the answers, but there's just so much we don't know. I find those questions super motivating and I just want to figure it out Okay, yeah, I don't think I think his mind is I don't know that how focused he is on the open this week Hey, just ask some questions. What do you think happens after we die heck? Reincarnated into a different an animal would end like it's different for every person, but an animal where you can't speak so you can't share Your knowledge well, so you just have to exist with all your knowledge that you have You would be a moth because you just fly directly at that lighthouse. Yeah. Yeah

So Victor Hovland just sitting around with this in his brain, right? Like yeah, what's going on? How's you know, how are you getting prepared for the US Open Victor? And he was just like what happens after we die. I think what happens after you guys you get eaten by worms We all just become worms. So this guy this is not a championship mentality that he's in I don't think so when you're entering a major championship week, you don't or maybe it is questioning. Maybe he's so unfocused on golf He's just gonna play well. How can you focus on golf? That's the thing. He's he's just I Don't know. I don't think he's going to play well. Not to get on the Victor Hovland thing, like going down this weird questions, but

it is kind of weird that we bury people. Well, what are we going to do with them? I don't know, but just like thinking about it, that is kind of weird. Do you think in like 50 million years, people gonna be digging like on you know on Long Island There's a giant or some of her yeah the giant cemetery that we have there Yeah in 50 million years are they gonna be digging there and they're gonna find that huge cemetery and just make oil out of all Of us. I don't know but it's just I'm just this is one of those things. You shouldn't think about things too much Just thinking about like you put someone in a box and you put them in the ground and that's it

That's kind of weird. Yeah, or you could get cremation. You could get cremated It's better feels a little little less weird. I want like cremation I it does feel like you know put put a little me here pull me there Let me on the golf course put a little me more on the golf course You know what just pour the whole thing on the golf course ocean chop me up do a lot of course. Yeah, Oh Hank oh if Hank dies before us we got to get him cremated and we'll fucking sit his ass in a chair at work every day Fuck you Hank you're coming to work. I will haunt you yeah, you will I won't be coming to work

I fully I'll be retired I fully believe that if Hank had the powers as a ghost to choose if you want to be a friendly ghost or a haunting ghost Oh, yeah, Hank would show up and just ruin everything put Hank back in like the 10th grade math class Yeah, here you go, buddy. Take a seat I want my body to be jettisoned into outer space after I die because it's a vacuum, right? So nothing nothing eats away at you. So that way my body is just floating around space forever I like to like a civilization discovers me and brings me back to life puts me in a zoo. I Like that. Yeah, I like that. Thanks Victor

Yeah, thanks Victor. Yeah, that is going guys guys talk. Who is the establishment in this case? Yeah, the establishment tells you the world on stop firing earth God and W. Oh and W. Oh, yeah the WEF That is yeah, the establishment is not the right word there. The establishment says that when you die you die I'd have a show say your neurons will stop firing your body will rot I think in this case the establishment means people who are smarter than doctors or could the establishment be your own body His own brain maybe zone Brady brain stops the neurons stop firing so he's at war against himself yeah okay victor great thought starter yeah way to go what happens after we die i'm gonna i'm gonna bet him

yeah i'm gonna do a death bet yeah i'm betting him i have to fuck it a little bit yeah he gets it he gets the clear jug and he's just all morose and sad because he's like, yeah But you know what like one day you're gonna die and then what maybe he becomes a golf ball that would suck Yeah, get smashed around maybe one of those old ghosts that hangs out at the golf course after they win a tournament there We've seen the movies all the time. Okay, PFT your hot seat culture My hot seat was gonna be brawny, but I think I feel like we've reached the depths of the brawny conversation. So my cool throw in Clark, hot seat, Charlotte Clark, Caitlin Clark,

Caitlin Clark might get a free trip to Paris. I don't know. We'll see. Cool thrown. Stephen A. Smith. Yes, because he won the divorce. At least Stephen A. Smith has won the skip bail. A Stephen A. Smith divorce. It took a few years to get there. Skip seemed like he was happy with his new flame.

Things were going well with him and Shannon. Then Shannon said, you know what? I can do better. He goes off, does his own podcast, gets five trillion views on it, works for ESPN, seems to be having a good time. Then they tried to replace Shannon with like five different people on Unisputed.

And it just wasn't, it wasn't hitting the same for Skip. So Skip is out at Fox Sports, I believe at the end of the summer, at the end of August. Yeah, what is he gonna do? I offered the intern spot on part of my take to Skip Bayless. Love that, love that.

I think that if Skip wants to reach the next generation, this is a good place to do it. Have him on that couch over there. We need a Cowboys fan all the time. I mean, there's always room in this world for Skip Bayless taking off a Cowboys jersey and throwing it into a trash compactor and walking out of the room. Those videos are always going to hit.

This is kind of a win for the world. In what way? Like, Skip, I've always thought Skip is the, he sucks. Stephen A. Smith is playing a character, I like Stephen A. Smith. I know that he can be a provocateur, but he's doing somewhat of an act. Skip is kind of just an asshole.

But I kinda like that. Yeah, I guess, like, you can hang off Shannon. I wouldn't wanna hang out with him or work with him. But I would be bummed if we didn't get any more Stephen A. Smith. I'd be bummed if we didn't get any more Shannon. There's like a, like, Cow coward is weird, but like he still is kind of funny. You know what I mean? Where he'll, he'll say stuff and you're like, Oh,

that's funny. Skip doesn't really add anything, but besides being an asshole and running like the same three plays, he just feels different than the other guys in that group. But I do love something about skip Bayless. I mean, I don't want to have a conversation with him. I don't want to hang out with him. I don't want to work with him. But there's, I feel like the sports ecosystem needs a Skip Bayless, somebody that's so like dead set. Every single moment of Skip Bayless his life is focused on how can I make this about LeBron James? Yeah. Or the Cowboys. Or the Cowboys. He, I mean, he was heartbroken that Bronnie wasn't playing well because I think he wanted Bronnie to be better than his dad. Yeah.

He'll come on the show now, I'm sure. He'll have to like, I'm sure we'll have Skip Bayless on in like the fall or the spring. Him being like, you know, I have this new project. I think we should hire. Everyone please go listen. I think we should hire Skip Bayless.

Yeah. Imagine him just hanging out in the office all the time. Ernestine, dual package. We need Ernestine. Got to have Ernestine. Got to have Ernestine. She's his producer. Can't sleep in the same bed, though.

Yeah, Skip. On the weekdays. Oh, does that mean they're going to? Are they going to start sleeping in the same bed every night? They might start fucking. Oh my god. In which case, you're going to get it. This sucks for Ernestine.

I feel bad for Ernestine. What if Skip and Ernestine start doing it, and then all of a sudden, like, skip Bayless changes his entire tune on life He's like I found the love of a woman. Yeah getting laid is awesome LeBron, you're actually a great player. You're cool. Do you think my bad Tim Tebow? I tried the virginity thing Having sex is way better. I no longer love you. Yeah, so skips out Sad day. Easy sad day for sports. Yeah. Okay. My hot seat is Florida State. Oh, they're doing top 10 quarterbacks. See that Max? Yeah. Top

10 quarterbacks and Jalen Hurts is not a top 10. Now it's a Jalen Hurts revenge tour this year. It's going to be great. I don't see a DAC on that list. Oh, there is he's a 10 behind Jared Goff Florida State has been announced. So the ACC is still up in the air Weird shit. Everyone thinks they might leave the Big Ten in the SEC came out and said they are not Interested in taking Florida State they basically said it makes no financial sensor league and they have not been a good partner. What does that mean? They've not been a good partner. I think they've just been upset or just riled stuff up. They've

been a disruptive partner was the quote. So reading between the lines, it seems like Florida State wants to be treated like they're now the star of the Big Ten. Yeah, but also this does mean, this means nothing because this is essentially, they're saying, so Big Ten SEC, unlikely to add Florida State if it leaves ACC and ACC survives, those two things aren't going to happen at the same time. Right. This is like when, when the Big Ten was like, we're not going to take Washington and Oregon if the Pac-12 survives. When Washington and Oregon are gone after USC and UCLA are gone, the Pac-12 is not surviving. If Clemson and Florida

State leave the ACC, they're not going to survive. So the Big Ten and SEC basically are saying, we don't want them unless the ACC is gone, which if they leave, they'll be gone, in which case we want them. It also might seem like Florida State is, they're on the Titanic. Yeah. Because the ACC, which is sinking, they get on a lifeboat Also might seem like Florida State is there on the Titanic. Yeah, the SEC, which is sinking. They get on a lifeboat and they're like, why is there no open bar? Yeah, it's like the big 10 feels like a great fit. Really anything as he's at Florida State should be in the SEC.

Yeah, you graphically would make a lot of sense. Yeah, but I understand our part. Those funny. I understand why Florida State would not want to be in the SEC with the recruiting in that area. Right. It's better if you're in the big 10 for that. But yeah, they're going to get out at some point. Yeah. We're still going. We're going to get two super conferences. And then my cool throne is the haters and the doubters of which there are many because I came back with Doug's last night or Monday night. We're going to stream again tonight, Wednesday night, 730 Central. I'm

terrible at this game. Yeah. It's going to stream again tonight, Wednesday night, 7 30 central. Uh, I'm terrible at this game. Yeah, it's going to take some time. What the fuck Hank? You were before we started taping. You're like, it's fine. You'll be fine from, you were definitely can take your headphones off, take your headphones off, take your headphones off. I am not listening. It's better for you to be really bad to start. But I don't want to be as bad as I understand that. I understand that. I'm just saying I didn't sleep last night. I didn't sleep last night. That's big boss. Sure. Kill me. It's like it's training camp. It's like, you know, you as a coach, I'm not a coach, but like looking at it from from from the outside it's like it's better to have you know but what if I never get good

well like Belichick like you like even no matter how good you are you want to break down the the bad things like it's almost good to have things to break down and improve on you don't learn from you learn more from mistakes than you do from and big hat has could can learn you know textbooks from all the mistakes memes is my co-offensive he's my he's he's my Ernie Adams wasn't a great night for my first night with Ernie Adams how's that working memes I thought I thought last night went well I went one in what war oh yeah well well it went well it was a why can't you just blame your defense

I did okay good I also blame my kids. I blamed Xbox PlayStation said you said that coach dogs a one kid guy. I said he's a one kid guy We're gonna have to have a talk with kids two and three and be like hey, you might have to leave for a while Yeah, cuz I got a coach minimize distraction. Yeah, the um, it was it's great. The game is great it's so much fun to be back, but I also feel really bad for Washington State because they're like, we believe in you and they're, they don't realize Doug's is he'll, he'll be out as soon as he gets a better offer. That's how Doug's works. So if I win some games,

I'm gone. Either way, the haters and doubters of which there are many get a lot of- Is this a lost season? No. Have you thought about expanding the playbook? Yes But that's either said than done. We're gonna say max I just wanted the listeners to know that like you you're true. This is real football coach a real football coach right now I am trying it's consumed all of every rain I how many people was that the first thing that you said to today is like Doug stinks Oh every single person saw like it's it's

Completely consumed. It's all I've got on my mind. It's football coach. You're a real football coach It's back into I forgot what it's like to be doing this where you're playing video games for a lot of people and it's just It it eats away at me. I didn't sleep last night I was like god damn it two and three is so much better than one and four if you just didn't one weren't an idiot in That Stanford game. Have you guys seen the screenshots that are going around of players like people that maybe it's when you're a player in the game and you get like text messages from your teammates? Yeah, I think a lot of them are fake. Are they fake?

I think so. Well, asking you if you want to come out? Memes is my recruiting coordinator as well because I need him to just, we don't have time right now so he'll let you know if that happens okay if he gets hit up okay should we do the Mount Rushmore let's do it this is gonna be a good one this is going to piss a lot of people off the Mount Rushmore is brought to you by friends at body armor body armor is the greatest drink out there. It is something

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Yeah. We also all know a lot of like what we, where our blind spots are. Well also these are deeply embarrassing things at times to admit. Yeah. Very. No, I've had this theory for a while where I, one of my picks might be out there, but I think that there's, everyone has one or two movies or shows that they just missed. And when you say it out loud, people are like, what, how is that possible? And you always hear them talked about where you're like, you don't want to, cause then you're just distracting the conversation about the movie or show to everyone be like wait

You haven't seen that I have one on my list that I actually think that I've like just said yes I've seen and I have not seen and I know like cuz I'm so embarrassed about it And I it like eats me up inside because it's something I would love But yeah, this is gonna be Mount Rushmore people are gonna be very upset about By the way. But also, everyone that's upset also has some that they like, it's like, everyone has these movies and TV shows. Yeah.

And guess what? I would love for this list to be bigger because there's nothing better than being like, I haven't seen this classic movie or TV show and now I get to go watch it. Yeah. First time. During COVID, I got to watch all of Game of Thrones a first time and yeah incredible Yeah, I was so happy by and people were jealous that I got to do right I wonder there's might be one person that doesn't have anything they missed Jeff Lowe. I don't think Jeff Lowe's anything

He's a freak. He sees everything. He's a freak By the way, did you got you? I don't think anyone responded to the AWL hit me up who said that we could literally do cat in the hat in the punishments That one of the punishments could be getting a cat I'm down. Okay, so are you like five or six? Yeah Max what you have to get one of those skinless weird cat. Yeah. Yeah I don't know there's hypoallergenic cats. I went through this process last time. I think Blake would make short work of that cat So you're not so yeah, but the listeners do we want to murder a cat? No content

True good point Alright just for the record. I was down. I was down too. I've thought I was in not going to but I have given it a little More thought I'm down but since max what I just think yeah As a single guy. Yeah, no definitely be weird mood. That's why you gotta make it not weird and get three cats. That's how you make it not weird. All right, Mount Rushmore. So what's the order?

I'm going first? Yep. Big Cat, Hank, Max, me. Okay. I won one. I think this is gonna hurt PFT. Yeah. It's an easy one, one.

I've never seen any of the Star Wars. Yep, me too. Not a single one. I didn't even put that down on my list because I knew you were going to take it. And I know obviously Darth Vader. I know like the story. Never seen it. Who's Darth Vader's son? Luke Luke. Luke, I am your father. Yeah, like that's the shit that you know, but you don't, nothing else. Yeah, I just never, I don't like sci-fi. And that was, I just never watched it. Who's Darth Vader's originals. Who's real name? Anakin.

Luke Harington. There you go. Oh, okay, that was close. Wait, Anakin Skywalker? Anakin is Darth Vader. Oh, this is gonna get Clem and and Robbie so mad this entire Mount Rushmore. I love this. And then Yoda is the grandfather.

Groku? No, Groku is Yoda's son. Nope. What's R2-D2 and C-3PO? They're just computers? They're in all the movies. And then Chewbacca is... R2-D2 might be the sneaky main character.

So Luke and Princess Leia's sister? Luke and Princess Leia are twins. And they fuck? And they make out. Oh! And then Han Solo, what's he? What does he do? He's Luke's buddy.

Him and Chewbac are boys. Chewbac is his pet. Chewbac is his partner. Pet. Partner. Does he have a leash for him? No Who made c3po? Anakin What's he's a robot inventor? Yeah, what's the guy you dress up as on?

Darth Maul. Who's that? Episode one? He is a Sith Lord that gets killed by Anakin after Darth Maul kills oh no he gets killed by Obi-Wan Kenobi and that that's Anakin's master or what do you call it Anakin was his mentor and it was Anakin was Obi-Wan's apprentice and the Ewoks are all just baby Yoda's that hang out on the planet they're like little baby bears Anakin is how house Anakin related to Luke father Anakin's father, but Luke came first no the but but in Star Wars It started four five six which is about Luke Darth Vader's the bad guy

They do that on purpose and then 20 years later They did one two three which is Anakin's beginning leading up to him becoming Darth Vader and then they did eight nine ten which are fucking horrible and ruin the entire franchise. Anakin is Darth Vader? Yep. And he is Luke's father? Correct. But the first the- Obi-Wan Kenobi is Luke's- Is this Rushmore just going to be explaining every single movie or show that I do here? No, just this one. Obi-Wan Kenobi was uh, Luke's was Anakin's master and then he was in the sequel trilogy He also was Luke's master and what's Joe that Anakin kills Darth Vader kills Obi-Wan who kills Jar Jar? I? Don't know I think Jar Jar survived so Jar Jar wins one of the things that we don't think Jar Jar was the ultimate villain Snoke

Oh, but that got proven be what's the what are the big elephant things? They you just oh I did play the video game the video game rocked when the first video game you just ride around them And you rope rope them off and what is Bill Burr? He's a Mandalorian got it.. OK. OK. All right. Star Wars. All right. My one one. I think you guys know this. If people hated me before I think this might be out and yeah it's going to be out and my career with the AWL as I apologize. I know the characters I've seen you know what it clips of red blogs

South Park oh You've never watched an episode of South Park okay, Hank. That's not the one that we talk can we talk Hank I Have seen enough episodes of South Park that I I made myself ineligible But I have probably seen less than six episodes of so I've I made myself ineligible, but I have probably seen less than six episodes of South Park. I've had roommates that have watched it. I never have really cared for it. I never sat down by myself or with a roommate and been like, I'm going to watch an episode

of South Park. I've seen, you know, when they like, someone will post a Twitter like South Park did this, you know, version of whatever talking about current events. So I've seen clips. I know Cartman, I know a PC principal, Billy football, the big balls guy. I'm with you, Hank. There's a guy that always dies. Eric dies every episode. Whatever. No, Kenny, Kenny, Kenny Cartman. I I'm with you, Hank. Like I, I had to take it off my list because I have, I have sat down and watched probably like four to five of them, but I never have

watched a full season. I don't really know like the jokes. I know it's funny. I just never got into it. Yeah. Did you watch the movie? No, no. I, and I see my Tik Tok algorithm has like the behind the scenes of them doing the voice. Yeah. They're incredible guys. It's, it's, it's funny. It's like the funny, I get, I'm ashamed. I know. I'm ashamed. It's one of like my favorite. Were you not allowed to watch it when you were a kid? That's part of it. Yeah. So I never watched it. It's one of my favorite shows. I love South Park. It's one of my favorite shows. Were you not allowed to watch it when you were a kid? That's part of it. Yeah. So I never watched it as an adult.

I have one of those as well. I have one of those as well. I think South Park, for me, it just came out at a time that I kind of wasn't watching that type of TV. Yeah, I couldn't watch it in my house. And then when I got older, I never got into it. My parents were very cool about letting me watch. If it was in cartoon format, I could watch any show.

So it was like Beavis and Buttthead, Simpson, South Park from the time I was like really young which I'm thankful for but South Park is a big one so I did not think you were going with South Park. I need to know what one you guys thought I had. We're not gonna say it. Yeah. Because we don't want to trigger something that gets you to say it. I mean I also say it at the end. I also don't think I don't know I think yeah, whatever All right, we have we have more picks. Yeah, all right max, but that was the one. I don't know what now I have no idea was it a movie or TV show TV show TV Honestly, I didn't have this one on my list because I didn't even think about it because I've never seen it

But that just sparked me. I've never seen the Simpsons What's in the Simpsons that's shocking ever never never see that's a that's a great pick. I should have said that I've never damn it. I it didn't even cost my mind because I've I've never even like thought about watching it Wow, because it was one of those things like when I was a kid I couldn't watch it and then I just like like South Park and Family Guy So I was like, I like I don't care about the Simpsons South Park yeah I mean they've been like something like Hank said like people around me have probably been watching it while I've

But I've never like sat down and had the intent to like watch an episode of The Simpsons I think I think seasons three through eight on The Simpsons are the best TV ever made oh gee Simpsons So Matt yeah, so max gets og Simpsons on this Good og Simpsons are the best TV ever made. OG Simpsons. So Max gets OG Simpsons on this one. OG Simpsons. Yeah. Get OG Simpsons. Alright, alright, alright, alright. Okay. Good pick.

PFT? Uh, my one-one is going to be the Marvel Cinematic Universe. I've never seen a Marvel movie. Any of them? I've never seen a Marvel movie. You've never seen Iron Man? Never seen Iron Man.

Iron Man is the one that like most people... I feel like you've seen at least one of these. You have to pick one of them. I haven't seen any of them. No, I think that counts. Yeah, because it's like... But it's like Star Wars. No, no, no, I know, but I feel like you've seen at least... Yeah, it's like Star Wars. No, no, I understand that. I'm saying I feel like there's one that he's seen that he doesn't realize he's seen. Okay, alright, unless... Unless it's Iron Man.

Name the most common ones. It's Iron Man. And none of the Avengers I am I did see 15 minutes of Iron Man 2 But that's in a little the Avengers fine. I never seen Avengers of Captain America. No Man, I have seen Batman daredevil Spider-man, but it has Batman Holland spider-man. No Batman's not in our Spider-Man You never seen even the toby maguire spider-man any spider-man never watch the spider-man. That's

You could even put the spider-man's on there yeah Blades like the toby maguire blade is not my Yeah, isn't bladed a marble. I don't think blaine. No. I don't know what that is Yeah, that's guardians know what that is. That's Guardians of the Galaxy. West Coast Snipes. Guardians of the Galaxy is another one that's. I haven't seen most of them.

That's the one with the raccoon and the tree, right? Yeah, the tree. Endgame. I've only seen the Iron Man's in one of the first Endgame movie, or the first Avengers movie. I promise you, I have never seen a Marvel movie Yeah, and they're like if you go down the list Black Panther. Oh Is that a model? Oh god him? Yes. Yes Marvel. I did. Yes. I did not see Black Panther. Yep, Black Panthers damn

Okay, I was actually worried about saying I hadn't seen Black Panther because I've not seen Black Panthers Black Panther is good. It's good. It's very good. I saw it Dang yeah, okay. All right, so I'll take that was honestly I'm gonna take the Avengers franchise then. Yep, that works. Okay, but also just know I've never seen a Marvel movie besides Yeah, I have literally never seen any of these movies Not a single one blade is Marvel by the way. Is that the Wesley Snipes? Yeah Not a single one. Blade is Marvel, by the way. Is that the Wesley Snipes? Yeah. Do you have to see Blade?

I haven't seen Blade from back in the day. Maybe I saw Blade II. So you have what, the end game? Or the Avengers? I've got the entire Avengers series. Yeah. Got it. I had that on there as well.

I haven't seen any of these. OK. Not a single one. I hate that you found Black Panther. I forgot. I knew you had seen one. I'm going to dig into your choices now, big time. I I forgot I knew you had seen one I'm gonna dig into your choices now big time I mean I knew you'd seen one I was gonna pick I was gonna pick wait you've seen Mandalorian haven't you oh what baby Yoda

you never watch any of it no I like the memes and shit I post the memes with the coffee the end game was what I was gonna pick as well the Avengers Avengers. Yeah, so I got the Avengers franchise and then my second Harry Potter Never seen a Harry Potter. Also, that's a show never read a book Star Wars, but no I haven't seen the Star Wars movie You want to put movie? Okay We can say we can put movie. I I'm pretty sure I just post the memes because I thought he was the cutest thing ever Maybe we should do like a different like the show is is red and like the movie is green and on the graphic And put do a little I've never seen Star Wars movie. Yeah

Okay, but Harry Potter You have never seen yeah, no that never never read it. Those are two heavy hitters. Yeah, never watched it People get very mad at me about the Harry Potter thing. I know that Max looks like that one guy Hagrid Yeah, I actually watched I read the books as a kid probably the last books I ever read And I I forget what caused it, but I got into Harry Potter Harry Potter movie binge this year. I watch you watch them all I do that like once every like three years. I love Harry Potter As well like I went on a Harry Potter podcast a couple years ago Never saw anything they explained Harry Potter to me

So I understand part of it and there's how there's houses right so you can be in a different clan Yeah, well, I don't know I've never would you rather be Gryffindor Hufflepuff? Slytherin or Ravenclaw Ravenclaw Answer Slytherin That's a good one. That's a very happy people. Yeah, Ravenclaw is a good answer. Ravenclaw is mid Oh shit, you want to be you want to be Hufflepuff right? Gryffindor well it depends. I want to be Slytherin. Ravenclaw is not a bad pick. Okay Max The wire never seen a single episode. It's always one that's been on my list of like I have to watch this I have to watch this people are gonna hate this

wire favorite show of all time Watch it probably once a year. They're gonna. I have read the oral history of the wire. It's really good Very good. So every season is good. Every character is great. There's no good guys There's no bad guys the bad guys are good, the good guys are bad. It's incredible. Mmhmm. Shiiiit.

You don't know Omar? Omar Cummins? No, no, not at all. Damn. Chain of Command, McNulty. I say that all the time. I feel like even if you haven't seen a lot of these shows, you've been exposed to enough GIFs from the show. See, I know nothing. Like, I don't even know if I... I probably have seen wire GIFs you've been exposed to enough GIFs from the show. See, I know nothing. Like, I don't even know if I...

I probably have seen wire GIFs. I would have no idea that they're from the wire. You've definitely seen the GIF of Weebae scratching his chin when he realizes something's going on. That's the oh shit. Price of the brick went up. Let them know we back up. That one you've definitely seen.

Oh, that one sounds familiar. Yeah, you've definitely seen that. Oh, this is such a good show. Wait. That one you've told that one that one sounds familiar. Yeah, yeah, you've definitely seen that oh Okay, such a good show wait Am I oh no? No I went first yeah, it's an order I'm gonna go I said this on the show a couple weeks ago the matrix. Yeah, red pill blue pill Good pick Dodging bullets you haven't seen any of them? We're living in a simulation.

Yup. Like red-pilled, is red-pilled political or is that Matrix? It's become political, but the initial reference of the red pill and the blue pill was the red pill you can see what's really going on under the surface, and the blue pill is just go back to your life and fuck around. So do you want the truth? And what does he take in the movie? He takes the red pill. He takes the blue pill is just go back to your life and fuck around so do you want the truth or what does he take in the movie he takes red pill matrix one was so good loved that movie yeah it was so good so like big-time deal too all right I got to I think I've said this one before I've never seen a full

episode of friends that one's on there I've just never seen a full episode that's a banger I thought about putting that on my list I think I've said this one before I've never seen a full episode of friends that one's on there I've just never seen a full episode. That's a banger. I thought about putting that on my list. I think I've seen too many Half episodes I've seen clips, but like I was a Seinfeld guy through and through yeah in every Seinfeld a thousand times I just never liked friends once you once you realize that they put a laugh track for every single like other word it kind of Ruins it yes never not that I ever really loved it But listening to friends from a different room it will annoy the fuck out of you because you just hear pause, laughter, pause and you're like there's no chance

this show could be that funny. Yeah, all right. Here's the one that I'm really ashamed about. Really, really ashamed about because I definitely have just been like, yeah I've seen it and I truthfully have never seen it and it's also movies that I would absolutely love and I know I'd love. I've never seen a single Fast and Furious.

Hmm. Yeah, it's good. And I'm like, this actually like pains me. I'm actually kind of, I've only seen a couple. It pains me to say because like, especially because Fidelberg is like one of my favorite people in the entire world. Yeah, and his excitement for it gets me excited. I'm like, I know I'd love this and it fucking pains me I've never seen a full a single Fast and Furious. Yeah, I don't Fidelberg turned me on those but I've never loved the movies I saw the first two and they're they're good that you can just turn your brain off. Yeah, but that's the type of movie I love yeah, it's a great turn your brain off. Yeah, so that hurts it hurts happy I've been able to say it out loud What's the I don't talk about a co

Okay It's me yeah um These are more my last two are more from when we were younger when I was younger, okay, Jurassic Park Okay, oh you stole that from me I never saw that people would always tell on it That's when that was the original when I said that like five years ago and people flipped on really? Yeah, I should have seen that you can you can get away with it Yeah, I like I feel like there's movies that when I was younger like I had a lot of movies on VHS

And if it wasn't in my collection, I never saw it. It's really about the first one the first Jurassic Park I think is yeah, no the first one is the best the first one with Chris Pratt where he's doing the thing to the Raptors The stop no yeah, I'm talking about that was pretty good, but the OG even Spielberg. Yeah, yeah, I've seen Jurassic World I don't think I've ever seen Jurassic Park. Why the fuck don't we have Jurassic Park yet? Because why is that a real thing agree? agree why that over the world so I don't give a fuck cares instead of buying a website so that you can post On an e-line buy a fucking dinosaur make dinosaurs for the people yep all right Hank or no me max Hank I had it on my list never seen gladiator. Oh Never seen gladiator

That I know such a cool guy movie talk about are you not entertained? That's one though that I'm jealous of you because it is raw awesome, and there's a new one coming out. Yeah, yeah No, I'll watch I need to watch it, but I just never have Joaquin Phoenix that movie is that movie holds up Yeah, we should watch everyone shut to watch one of these and do a review Okay, okay You guys have to watch eight movies. Yeah, I do have a lot of movies.

Well, no, PFTs is like 20. No, he just got Endgame. Is that still? Or Avengers. Avengers is three or four? I have, what, how many Fast and Furious are there? Oh, you have Fast and Furious? You have.

I think there's 10 Fast and Furious and 10 Star Wars. But that's also, it's easier to miss those those because if you miss the first you just say no And that's what I've done all right You have two picks BFT. I'm deeply ashamed of this one. Mm-hmm because I do think at some point I have said that I've seen one of them. Yep The godfather I've never I've never saw I've never seen I've never seen no way that's true it is true I don't believe that scene I remember I

saw there was a grand father that joked about it a million times about LeBron and you've known the character I know the characters I feel like this is well no you can't you can't say that okay I'm I'm doing I being honest. No, that's fine. I know. I just, I'm being shocking. I know. I know the- The amount of times we've talked about it. I know the Corleone family.

I know that Fredo, I did it, I know it was you, Fredo, and it breaks my heart. Kiss him, right? That's his brother, right? Fredo Corleone is Albus Moe's brother. Yes. Kisses him, says, I know that. I know the references. I know that the old guy dies having a heart attack

In his garden. Yeah, right with his grand granddaughter around and son. I think Never seen okay any of the Godfathers. I've only seen him like twice so that's not that crazy and the first one Oh, it's my first one. I watched in school. So a Z part I was saying is we've made fun of LeBron like a thousand times talking about the God for reading the Godfather right? I have I there's been times where I've tried to watch Godfather 2 and I feel like it's a movie It's long it is it puts me just like I've turned it on and I fall asleep It's so good and so the Godfather 3 is the one with De Niro right no Godfather 2 De Niro's in all no De Niro's in Godfather 2 but the third one is the one we don't talk about.

Third one is just when you I've never seen Godfather 3. Yeah, I've seen one and two. I've never seen Godfather 3. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. That is it. I do want to watch them, but I can't kind of put the nail on the head. It's good pick. It's a long ass movie. Yeah, you should watch them though. They're great. I like you will enjoy it. I know. I know. And I will watch them. The first one I watched in like films Well, my teacher broke it all down so it was more interesting But I think if I was watching those on my own like I wouldn't have got past one. Yeah, okay All right for the last pick I want to say I almost took one but out of the spirit of fairness

I've seen over half this movie. I've seen probably 60 minutes of it. So I did not take Toy Story Okay, but I almost did I've never watched the entire thing. I didn't watch Toy Story till I had kids. Yeah, I didn't see it as a kid. Yeah. So I'm gonna go with Hunger Games. Mmm. Never seen Hunger Games. Good pick. Good pick. Good. Good movies. Good movies. Good books. I'm jealous of you for being able to watch Godfather. I think I just read I just realized I've only read books of like movies.

Do you ever read the book first? Of movies? You watch the movie then read the book? Hunger Games, I watched the movie and then the next movie hadn't been out yet so I read the book because I wanted to find out what happened. Got it. Catching Fire.

Okay, Max? I have the same one as PFT is that I don't think that I've seen it But I may have seen it so I'm not gonna take it which which would have been the departed Hanks seen it 17 times last two yeah Sat next to Hank on two different plane trips, and he's been watching on both plane trips It's a good plane movie yeah, it was after Missoula, and then I I I was finishing it. It's a good playing movie. Yeah, it was after Missoula and then I I Was finishing it. I wasn't watching. Okay. Okay, you just go back and forth between the town the departed

Goodwill haunting Big three it isn't that it is a nice big three for city. Yeah The one that I know that I haven't seen that you guys are gonna get mad about is Peaky Blinders. Ah That's not mad. I'm just like that's kind of like the godfather with PFT. I'm like, I'm actually kind of jealous Yeah, see those are so good season one is really good. Yeah, so good. They're great. Those are great shows and movies What's what's it here then in Birmingham? Yeah, it's got a little filly in it. Yeah, it's like the filly of England grit Okay, Hank this one. I think about saying every year around Christmas time when the debate happens Die hard mmm. I had that on my list. I had that on my movie never seen a movie

I don't know if it's a Christmas movie or not because I've never seen it. I've seen any of them No, the Vengeance. I just know there's a tower because they put in Call of Duty one year No. The Vengeance? I just know there's a tower because they put it in Call of Duty one year. Okinawa Tower or whatever. Yeah Die Hard 1 is awesome. Awesome. Awesome.

So good. And I know that Snape from Harry Potter I believe is the bad guy of Die Hard. Well they don't know Snape so. Yeah I don't know. There's nothing to think about that. Is Snape the hat? They don't know Harry Potter and we don't know die hard the hat that we had a What's wrong with Harry Potter like a hat tells you where you have to go to school

I guess that's what sort of do a national signing day. It was sorting out. I Alright, so my last pick is I'm gonna go back to TV show I all I know about this show is that people were really pissed at the end But I've never seen a second of lost I had that on my list too. Yeah, not a second of law I also only watched that in school. Yeah Your school played lost for we watched the first season. Yeah, I know the premise was awesome This is a high school Dude every day we go into class it is a lot of loss. It was sick

No, that was the first show I ever binge like I got Netflix when I was in high school and like high school and I've Learned that you could binge TV shows. I was the first one I ever binge I stayed up to like 4 a.m.. What day watching it. What grade did you get in that class? Probably like a C in the loss class It was something it was like it was an elective and I forget what the premise even was. We watched that, we watched loss and we watched the bear documentary. Oh, Grizzly Man. Yeah. Oh, the guy who got eaten. Yeah. This show sounds, this class sounds awesome. You just watched a ton of TV. I think Hank's teacher was just hungover every day. Was it like a psych class? It was an elective. I forget what the like premise of the elective was, but it was a great, great class.

It was me and like, I don't know why. I just remember it was me and a lot of females were in the class. Like there wasn't any other guys. Hell yeah dude. I like that. That rocks for you. Look at that female. Nice job Hank.

That's sick dude. Alright, what do you guys got? Let's do a brain dump. I had Star Trek. Yup. I've never seen a movie or a TV show of Star Trek. I wouldn't, I don't even feel bad about that. Yeah, no, that's a fucking nerd shit.

Yeah, if somebody were to ask me, like are you a Star Wars guy or a Star Trek guy, I would immediately say Star Wars, despite the fact I've never seen any of them. Yeah. Rick and Morty, same. Had that on my list. I've seen a couple episodes.

Rick and Morty, people come up to me all the time and they're like, dude, you would love Rick and Morty. They want me, they get mad that I haven't seen yeah, yeah, I had madmen. Yep. Yeah, I had madmen I've been I've I like started that but I like I couldn't put it in in good faith because I've I think I've watched like Two episodes I tried to watch the first episode got about 20 minutes in I was like yeah, there's something else going on I texted my wife to just tell me what haven't I seen because she's like there's so many times where she's watching the show and I'm Watching sports, but she wrote West Wing Downton Abbey Mad Men Friday Night Lights. Oh Show the movie it's like loosely no you gotta watch Friday night lights vital burgers gonna kill you. Yeah, I know

Yeah, I had never seen Friday night lights until like two years ago, and I watched the first couple episodes It seems like it's gonna be a good show Dexter Dexter through it. Yeah boardwalk Empire Yellowstone Lord of the Rings Harry Potter Lord of the Rings said yeah homeland Lord of the Rings is a big one Lord of the Rings is a massive homeland Just watch the first two up or first two seasons of homeland. Yes, so those are all the ones I haven't seen She's she's brain dumb. She's like here you go all these popular shows. Yeah Okay, I've never saw Indiana Jones and the House of Cards those were the two that The big ones on should I put it should I pick Lord of the Rings over lost?

I think so what's bigger I think so you have Lord of the Rings and Star Wars the rings is yeah I don't even know I've never even thought about Looking at Lord of the Rings. That's how uninterested I am in it I think the second movie is like three and a half hours long never Never, it's never even crossed my mind to be like, oh, I should check this thing out. Like I don't want, I know there's a hobbit and a ring. So probably the reason why Big Cat took Lost is the same reason I was thinking about taking Lost,

which is when that show came out, it was all you talked about. And you had weeks between episodes, so you would just fill in your school week or your work week, just talk with people about like, what do you think is gonna happen? Where are they? So it was like a part of of life in the early 2000s yeah talking about loss yeah that was big by the way Hank we thought I thought you were

gonna say the office mm-hmm I thought you're yeah we thought you'd never seen the office that's like the only show I've watched oh why did we get why that rumor style love the office oh we literally watch the office never seen the off one thing. I that's Shane Shane's never seen the off. She's never seen any of this I watch seen the show Shane never had a tell I think there's people that watch the office in real time and then people that Watch it after the fact I've done both Same but like I was watching in real time too. Yeah, I was watching a real time The episode after the Super Bowl was yeah, we are iconic iconic episodes of all time

The rumor started that you had not seen the office. We were just sitting around being like I might continue to believe that I mean like Parks and Rec have only seen a couple episodes But I have seen a couple episodes. Have you seen Seinfeld a million times? I had the Seinfeld Seinfeld DVDs office DVDs Were like the two shows I had on DVD I've watched every episode like a million times people in the office are chatting They're saying that you've never seen the office or Seinfeld bro. Let's go head-to-head I'll take you all maybe not big cap But I think I could I think I go head-to-head with anyone this office on on on the office

I have no Michael Scott office. I stopped watching after he left. The Angel of Vickers was pretty good Yeah, like sometimes I'll go I'll be scrolling TV and then I'll turn on episode I'm like I haven't seen this and it's cuz yeah, I just got left. What was Dwight's cousin's name most You have seen it. You're good. Yeah Routes show I have no idea and he's acapella group called the I got this one

The Oh, I got this one. What the fuck is it? Some of the mascot now was it Here Comes Trouble? Here Comes Trouble. I didn't know. I asked that question. I was like, wait, am I thinking a pitch perfect? Can you name one of his co-singers in Here Comes Trouble? Yes, Broccoli Rob. Broccoli Rob. Yep. Great show.

Great show. Great show. Great show. Hank, I don't think you've ever seen The Office. Can we go see The Godfather together? I can't wait to see The Godfather. Yeah, yeah. I really want to see it. Which one should I start with?

One. Okay. I think everyone should have to do one of these. Yeah. One of these things. I'll do all the Fast and Furious. And should we, we should do a recap. I'm screwed.

I don't have, I don't have anything I can watch. I'll do Gladiator. I have 10 movies, 7 movies, a show that was syndicated on for 15 years and And how many seasons of Lost were there what do you so many? What's the best Fast and Furious because I feel like you can jump into Fast and Furious at any moment one Fast and the Furious Probably the when I see you again. I like fast five okay I've only seen like the first two I think I try to do a theory where I go like binge fast and furious like it was a TV show and then I stopped after like I think like Movie three yeah before we get to Derek car is brought to you by Chevy as everyone knows

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Okay, we now welcome on a very, very special guest. It is our Chill Week interviews sponsored by Coors Light and Chevy Silverado. It's four-time Pro Bowler, New Orleans Saints quarterback Derek Carr. Derek, first of all, thank you for joining us. Absolutely. We appreciate it. Let's start, let's ease in with some golf. How are we feeling about the golf? Golf, the game is nice right now. Okay. I don't know what that means

because you could wake up in golf and it could be terrible again. Right, right. So we'll see how the weekend goes, but I feel confident. Yeah. Golf's a weird sport where, for me at least, sometimes when I wake up and I feel great,

I play terribly. When I wake up and I feel awful, I go out there and I just play really well. So I don't know. It probably says more about me mentally than anything else. Definitely. For sure. But yeah, so what's the expectation this week?

What would you be happy with? Expectation, top 10. That's expectation. I've gotten better every year. Top 20 last year. And oh, you're a stick. I mean, I play quarterback. Yeah.

We have to be. Yeah, that's true. It's pitchers and quarterbacks. Pitchers and quarterbacks. We have to be. And, that's true. It's pitchers and quarterbacks. Pitchers and quarterbacks. We have to be. Yeah. And so hopefully, hopefully top 10 and then try and, you know, if you got a chance on the last day, go and win it.

Yeah. How is the body feeling? Because I think you broke the record for most injuries last year. What was the full list? Full list. Oh, man. Two concussions, some stuff about my shoulder that just,

it was jacked up. OK. Jacked up shoulder. Jacked up shoulder. And then two different broken ribs. I've done some things, some stuff about my shoulder that just it was jacked up. Okay, jacked up shoulder, jacked up shoulder and then two two different broken ribs. Oh my god. How many ribs have you

broken in your career? Oh, um I think I'm up to five, five or six. Nobody will ever break the record for for Drew Breeze. They broke a lot of ribs that year on that one on one hit. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Yeah. And then just like being a rotational athlete,

like I did one, then it got better and then I did the other one. But like you hadn't done that many at once. I know. And still trying to throw is like, that's miserable. So how long after the season ended, did you feel like you were back to a hundred percent or maybe the answer is you're not yet?

No, I definitely, I feel a hundred percent going into camp. So that's awesome. Okay. I was able to do everything. My shoulder didn't feel good until like probably when we were coming back in in April. That one. It just took a while. Yeah, you know, just took a while but they told me it was gonna take a while but is what it is. Yeah, I think big guy mentioned this to you when he

mentioned yesterday but we were we were feeling for you last year and you were the most injured quarterback and we were just like not because we had anything against you. We were like, Derek, please take a seat for a week so that Jameis can get in. We just want Jameis. We all love Jameis. We just want one week of Jameis.

So he does seem like the best locker room guy ever. Jameis is one of the greatest teammates I've ever had in my life. There would be things, like if I said something in practice, hey, like this, man, he was like times 10 louder and like, hey, he needs it like this. And like just as a quarterback, you know, you're walking, I walked into a situation where, you know, he was their guy, you know, and who knows what happened the year before, I didn't pay much attention to it, but I know

it was tough on him. Yeah. And now I'm walking in that situation. So who knows what it's going to be like, you know, the organization wants to go in different direction, all this kind of stuff. But he like blew my mind on just the kind of person he was. I love him as a player. We all love watching him, because he does not care. No. And it's like, you know you're going to watch something exciting.

Whether it be good or bad, it's going to be exciting. It's going to be exciting. Someone's band's going to play. You just don't know which one's going to play. But the one thing I love about Jameis is he doesn't get enough credit for just how good of a player he is. Because he is hilarious.

He is a funny teammate. He has all the sound bites and all that. The memes galore, right? But he's a great player. But he's just one of the greatest people. And you guys know that. Yeah, absolutely. So you have an interesting career

because your older brother David gets drafted number one overall, goes to the Texans. I think he broke the record for most sacks taken. Still has it. Still has it. And didn't take it from him last year? I know, it was like neck and neck for a while. Still has it.

Still has it. It was an expansion team, by the way, too. So it's like an impossible spot to get into. You're what, like a teenager when you're watching all this. Was there any moment where you're watching it, like football might not be for me? Because this, I mean, you have to see, like you're sitting there and you're watching all this, was there any moment where you're watching it, like football might not be for me because this, I mean, you have to see like you're sitting there and you're like, I feel for my brother

because he's just put in a terrible spot. Absolutely, you know, just as a, you know, I'm just a kid, I'm like, I'm pretty good at basketball. Yeah, right. I'm a good shortstop. Right. And you know, but like at the end of the day, I knew what I was just blessed and called to do.

You know, football was just, it just came easy to me. And so like I'm watching that and I was like, well, what a great opportunity for me to learn. And I remember Reggie McKenzie, our GM with the Raiders, he said, the reason I wanted to pick you so bad was you lived a very difficult thing to watch. And your brother taught you, you were there with him. Like you were at his house every day.

And my brother just groomed me, taught me everything he could, you know, got me around all the guys. And and so like football at that point, it was like, that path looks so easy. Yeah, you know, it obviously it's not but you know, just it it looked normal. Right. You know, right. How hard was it though? Because I you know, we're fans, we sit on the couch, a guy gets sacked for like, get up. Like, you know, like, come on, pussy, get up. But it's your brother brother and it's your family is watching this and he's going through

basically literal torture yeah was it just like agonizing at times to watch you know him try to make it in the NFL and have that go down yeah you know the hardest part for me was like I didn't understand the why yet because you know I'm just 15 16 years old I'm sitting there watching it I don't know why you know, I don't know what the protection I don't know what's going on and The hardest part was watching like my mom my grandma and like his wife Like that was the hardest part for me just as you know, we have a close family We all love each other so dearly and deeply and so I felt like their emotions, you know Yeah, like watching his wife go through I'm likely, like she's like a nervous wreck every game

because like, is he gonna be okay after this? It wasn't like, are we gonna win? It was like, I just want him to be intact. Yeah, just try not to get sacked more than five times. Yeah, 100%. But you wanna talk about, like I always prided myself on being a tough, tough, tough football player, play through anything, all that.

But like some of the stuff that he went through, like I was like, that's where I learned it. Yeah. But I didn't, I haven't had to deal with some of the stuff he did, but football player, played through anything, all that. But some of the stuff that he went through, I was like, that's where I learned it. But I didn't, I haven't had to deal with some of the stuff he did. But thankfully, but watching it was hard. But it also gave me confidence to know, all right, he's teaching me protections. Maybe if you're not so good here, this is a way to fix that. So it was a really good learning lesson. It's also, I would imagine, difficult. Because the NFL, in all pro sports,

a lot of it is the situation, like where you end up and who you're around and the situation that you're put in. Like, was it difficult for him to watch that and be like, if I had just been drafted a little bit differently, different team, different circumstance, things could have gone a different way for me. Yeah, you know, like, he won't say it. But like, for me, watching, now that I know

what was going on, I can go back and watch his games. I'm like, holy crap, you know? Like I know what I'm seeing. And you know, I go back and I'm like, dude, like he's way more talented than I am. Yeah. He's 240, you know, runs a four six, throws the ball 85 yards, like genius, smart.

It's like when he went to New York and he was with Eli, like it was really cool. He's like, I got an organization with like a great team, great system, great defense, all this kind of stuff. He's like, I'd go in the game and it was like, we go right down the field. It was easy. You know, he's like,

he's like, I never felt football like that since college. And so it, yeah, of course you think like, man, what if he was in a different situation? You know, so it'll never happen, but it's- But it's a tough one to deal with, yeah, because you just have to sit there and be like, what if? It's interesting because where he got drafted, you and the family moved to Texas, right?

And so you played high school football in Texas for a little bit. The fact that he's on the Texans, I know how seriously they take high school football down there. You get a period in your school day dedicated to football. The fact that he was with the Texans might have made you a better quarterback just because of the environment that you got to play in,

which is kind of crazy to think about. Yeah, 100%. Like I got to play again, Houston especially, Texas 5A football. Like it was insane. We're going against, we played one team, had 11 D1 dudes just on their defense. And you're like, you're not gonna get that competition in Fresno. Yeah, no offense, but that's my hometown. But, you know, that's not gonna get that competition in Fresno. Yeah, no offense, but yeah, that's my hometown. But it's like, you're not gonna get that.

So it absolutely helped. And then being able to throw routes to Andre Johnson wasn't bad. That doesn't hurt either. That would definitely be fun. And one thing your brother's really good at, he is the number one Derek Carr defender. It's true. He's got your back. And it's good to have family in your corner like that.

And he will go after anyone that says anything bad About you. Yeah, when you were when you were growing up and he was in the league Yeah, I know you don't listen to your own media, you know, you gotta try to like tune out now listen good or bad Yeah, it's rat poison right even if it's good. It's like just false sense of security Yeah, but when you're growing up and your brother's in the league Yeah, are you listening to are you listening to what the media is saying about him? Yeah, and then are you like calling up sports talk radio shows or like is Derek from Sugarland?

Yeah. Shut your mouth about David. No, you know what's funny is like back then media was so different. Y'all remember like it was like blogs. You know, I'm not going on a website to look at a blog. You actually have to like opt into it. Yeah.

You have to like choose. I need to see this. Yeah. And so for me, that was like, it was just newspaper, but I'm, you know, teenage, I'm not reading the newspaper. Right. So right. Like, and even like the team, like I would play against people, and they would just think it was cool that your brother was in the NFL. Yeah,

you know, and so I never, I never had to deal with anything. I don't like what he dealt with, or his wife, you know, with. But like, for me, as like for me as a kid like it was like my brothers I felt like that's sick. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and then you have another brother, right? Yeah He's the one who blocks everyone on Twitter. Oh, he's I love that. That means ride or die. He's aggressive Yeah, I think we're all blocked his fuse is about this big He's like six six three hundo, you know benches so it's like, he can do whatever he wants. Yeah, and he just, he patrols the streets for you.

Do you know that, that he just has everyone blocked? I didn't know that he had everybody blocked, but, which is hilarious. Yeah, no, it's like the most ride or die thing that I love. I mean, it's like, yeah, it's your brother. Like, of course he's gonna block anyone who says shit about you. Of course, and I'll take him blocking someone

rather than him reacting, because there's times where he'll react, and I'm like, bro, it doesn't matter, bro. They're doing a job. At the end of the day, if I saw him, they'd probably be like, what's up, Derrick? I'd be like, what's up? Yeah, right, right.

And so I was like, bro, don't react to him. But for me to say that to him, I'm still a little brother. So he's like, yeah, bro, shut up. Yeah, right, right. That's probably a good time to bring this up, then. You actually blocked me on Twitter. Oh, I didn't? What was it about? Well, and so I found out.

What was it about? Well, so I did some research, because when you- I'm not blocked. When you left the Raiders, and then you posted a goodbye statement. And then the guys sent that in a group chat. They're like, hey, Derek Carr just said goodbye.

I couldn't see it. And I was like, oh, what's going on? He's got me blocked. So Hank looked it up. We did this live on PMT three years ago. years ago. Yep. So you tweeted out this is like seven years ago. Okay. Those who control their tongue will have a long life. Opening your mouth can ruin everything. Yeah. And I replied, Are you talking about herpes? So I think that's a

fair reply. Right? Yeah, that is. Yo, that's so funny. That's a fair reply. Yeah. So I think that's what it did it, but maybe you just saw herpes and you were like block. Block. Maybe. Yeah.

Because that doesn't seem like something I'd block you for. Usually, honestly, if I block you, it's probably something to do someone said something about my teammate, my team, or me. Yeah. Because I, and it has nothing to do like I had this one dude with the Raiders, like media, he was like, you blocked me. I'm like, you probably said something stupid And I just don't want someone to like it or what and I see it right?

I said it hasn't nothing is freaking social media is not personal right? But I was like my mindset is like I know I'm emotional so I have to defend myself to get away from that Yeah, and so I don't know I don't think the herpes thing would have got me Yeah, it could have been something else, But this is the one interaction. I think I'm totally fine with you blocking me. I think it's probably good for you to block me. You don't need to see my thoughts That's true. Very dumb. Yeah, if everyone in this room is agreeing, I probably should agree. Yeah. Yeah, keep me blocked I should do that the rookie symposium just put out like a list of people block all the aggregators Yeah block PFT comment if I'm not if'm not blocked, so if PFT has something

he wants to tweet at you, he can tell me, and then I'll be like, this is coming from PFT. I think that's a great way to do that. Yeah, and then you can judge from that. And I'll get blocked, but that's fine, I don't care. That's hilarious. I mean, you said it, you are emotional, which I feel like everyone has always been like,

Derek Carr's one of the best teammates, and he's the heartbeat of the team, especially with everything you guys went through that Raiders season coaches you know the was rugs oh yeah yeah I blanked his I blanked his name for a sec sorry yeah do you think too that maybe because your eyebrows and your eyelashes are a little dark people think you're wearing mascara everybody? Everybody, look, I can try. Have you ever worn mascara? Never once. Is a better way to ask a question. Never once in my life. Are you sure? I'm trying to prove it to you.

There's nothing coming off. There's nothing coming off. Is it tattooed on? No, gosh, I have a lot of tattoos, but no. Do you realize that sometimes it looks like you're wearing mascara? Absolutely, like, my whole life I had to deal with that. I used to get made fun of when I was a kid.

It was my mom's fault, cause she prayed, like, that I'd have these bright blue eyes. And I was like, well, God maybe just made my eyelashes darker so my eyes looked better. I was like, Mom, that's really your fault. I get made fun of all the freaking time, bro. I don't know how else to prove it to everybody. I think you should start wearing mascara.

Because then it's like, yeah, right. And everyone's like, oh, it looks like Derek Carr wears mascaras. Yeah, I do. What are you going to say now? Like, yeah, oh, it looks like Derek Carr wears mascaras. Like, yeah, I do. Oh, yeah. What are you gonna say now? Oh, yeah, I got the whole goth thing. I was like, bro, like, I don't know how else to react. Yeah, I did think that you were the first goth quarterback ever when you got drafted. Yeah, expecting you show up wearing like a cannibal corpse. Just like sulking around all the time. Gruden would have had a lot of fun with

that. Oh, Gruden. Gruden used to tell me that's what brings it up is like, he would be like, we'd have had a lot of fun with that. Oh, Gruden used to tell me, that's what brings it up. It's like he would be like, we'd have a bad game or we'd lose. He'd be like, he'd look at me with his little growl and be like, you love the misery. I really don't. I really don't. Love the misery. Yeah, I mean, he's an all time football guy.

I would imagine he gave it to you guys a lot, I'm sure. Absolutely. You know what? What people don't know about him is, like, one, everyone on our team loved him, hands down. He came out and told us everything he said. This is what I said, this is what I meant, guys. Hopefully you know me by now, how I feel about you.

And we were like, OK. And we went on with our day. We didn't know it was going to lead to what it led to. And then I guess when you call the commissioner certain things, it's probably not going to end well. Yeah, I'm tightfooted. Yeah. It's probably not going to end well. That was kind of a cool line, though.

Not going to lie. But he just, like, he would obviously rip everybody. He would tell me going out to practice, he's like, look, I'm going to cuss you out, because I need to cuss somebody else out, and they need to see the quarterback getting ripped. I'd be like, absolutely, dude. Yeah.

I don't care. Would he ever go, like, extra when you're like, all right. He would keep going, and I'd be like, all right, bro. You better be squabbling. We did it. We did it. We cussed out. Yeah, you're like, all right. He would keep going and I'd be like, all right, bro. You better be squabbling. We did it. We did it. We cussed out.

Yeah, you proved your point. He was great because as you guys see all the clips of him doing that to guys, there's not enough clips of how much he would love on a guy and encourage him. Yeah. Any free agent we would sign, veteran, he would put clips of them up in the team meeting and he'd show their three best plays.

And he'd just be like, look at this dude, you're going to play your best football for me. This is what we're going to do. And I'm going to put you in position. And all of a sudden, everyone's like, I'll run through a wall for this guy. So he doesn't get enough credit for that side of him, too. Yeah. Would he just walk around muttering to himself like Spider 2 Y Banana? Oh, yeah.

Spider 2 Y Banana. Jeff Leonardo is one of his closest friends, K. And what Jeff Leonardo would do is any saying he would have or a play that he always said, he'd make shirts. So we'd come in one day, and there'd just be a picture of a Spider-2 and a banana. And so every day, he would have sayings. He would literally be mumbling them to himself.

And the next day, Jeff would have a shirt with it. I love it. It was great. He loved running Spider 2 Wide Banana. Absolutely. That was one of our favorites. Was there ever a time where like, all right, maybe this doesn't call for Spider 2 Wide Banana, Coach?

No. You know what's crazy with him is he's the king of that play. He called it like, I want to say we were like 100% on that play. Less than a hit works. Spam it. Yeah. He's playing mad, and he's just spamming a play over and over. We used to do the Wide Banana, the corner corner then we would do like the little hide one

You know, you always see like that you've looked this way and then throw it to the guy wide open. Yeah We hit that play. I'm not kidding you. I was like, there's no way it's gonna work like four weeks in a row Right and it was open every time. That's crazy. Oh, yeah, and you can't shake off spider to why bad at it You can't be like no, we're not That'll be in every playbook for the rest of my life. Yeah I imagine that you got to spend some time with John Madden as well. I didn't get time in me just family members. But okay, which is it sucks. Yeah, man Kenny Stabler. Like I met Kenny Stabler family but never got

time with them. Yeah. Yeah. The the other all time football guy you you played with or played for I know it wasn't your full career. But Pat Hill. Yes is my favorite. We actually have a gambling trophy named after Pat Hill. Do you really? Yes, because. I love that. I mean, his Anytime, Anyplace, Anywhere,

Fresno State teams where he'd be like, yeah, we'll go play Oregon, then we'll go play FSU, then we'll go play USC. The best. So what was like the recruiting process? Obviously he knew you because of your brother, but like, was it a no brainer that you were gonna go play for Pat Hill? Yeah, like

Dad offered you to right? No, no, no, so he called my dad. You're right. Okay So I was getting recruits I was in Houston and I was getting recruited like and starting in freshman football by everybody You know, I was like, you know, I didn't see this in California. So I'm getting recruit. I'm getting offered I'm starting to get well Pat calls my dad. He's like, hey, I'm this was my junior year He's like, hey, I'm checking on Dave. How's Dave doing? You know, he's Dave's not gonna answer his phone You know, right that was Dave's doing and my dad was like, oh Dave's doing great But Derek's waiting for you to call him and as you could tell he Pat was probably saying a few words that little MF I didn't know he wanted to come to us

And he offered me like through my dad. My dad's like, hey Fresno offered. I was like, what? And I wanted to commit right away because like the whole time, like I just love that city. I love the ramp. Like I was like, I want to get my name up there next to Dave's. Like I just be like, what a cool thing that would be like just for our family, you know? And like he was like, I called him the next day. I was like, I'm coming. He's like, okay, good. Don't tell anybody. Because when we get good players to commit to us, USC offers, I was like, man, screw that.

I told him, and sure enough, USC showed up the next day at my school, like all this. But you sure? Yeah, you sure you want to? Yeah. No, I was like, I'm going to Fresno. So it worked out. He's an all-time football guy.

He's my favorite. Yeah. Oh my gosh. What was he like just day to day? You'll love this. So this is like perfect Pat Hill. He's aggressive. Yeah. You get what you see is what you get. But I'll never forget two stories. My freshman year we kept dropping snaps because I was in the shotgun my whole center year. Right. So I learned how to play under center. Well I drop a snap and he goes, that's it. in here and he gets down grabs the ball with two hands like this

He's like get in here. He's only wearing grays It was the nastiest snap I ever took him I've but I got the snap and then he think and then right there He's like that solved all the problems So we did that and then like later in that practice I remember is my first practice and I go to take take a snap in nine on seven or half line run. And I said, and they snapped it too soon and I break my finger and it's out like this. I put it back in, he's like, time to learn how to be tough, get back in there.

So I went back in there broken finger, I handed the ball off right handed all day. But that was Pat's way of pushing you to become a man. Yeah. You know, and he did that for sure. And it was great. Like those Fresno teams, like he, he basically was like, we're not afraid of anyone. We know we're not on the same level talent wise, but it doesn't matter.

We'll go play football. And it's beautiful. Yeah. And it worked for him. Yeah. You know, and hopefully we can bring that back someday. Yeah. Yeah. And talk about spamming plays.

There was probably a lot of like Devantes down there somewhere. Yes, absolutely. Especially with some of the people we were playing. Like, yeah, we played one team and literally at the coin toss. This was when me and Tay were like at our peak. Before the game, we're throwing routes and the coaches are like, we have no chance. I threw a ball from like the back 40,

like threw it 60 or 70 yards, hit the goalpost. Like they're like, we have no chance. Come out to the coin toss and like they had a couple of DBs like they're like we have no chance come out to the coin toss and Like they had a couple DB's and I but please take it easy Yeah, you guys were electric Well, what was the the scouting process like for the NFL come out of Fresno? So did you have to answer questions about like why'd you go to a small school? Cuz I know they like lean on you on that stuff

Like yeah, they're trying to find any bit of mental weakness that you have. Yeah, 100%. And they picked on that a lot. Like, you didn't play against good competition. How are you going to play against the NFL? And then you would have to be like, I mean, I did play against good.

This guy's in the league. I played Bobby Wagner. All these guys. And so I was like, I understand I didn't play in the SEC, but this was my choice to go to the school I love. And hopefully that just bruised my loyalty and what I'll do for a team, right? Yeah, was uh was Mark Davis involved in those conversations? I never talked to Mark No, not not before not before just just Dennis Allen and Greg Olson. He seems like the coolest guy ever Yeah, you were gonna p.f. Chang's with him. I never went to be of change, but he was there every day

Yeah, I know we want it We want like that's our dream is to go to p.f. Chang's, but he was there every day. Yeah, I know. We want it. We want, like, that's our dream is to go to P.F. Chang's with Mark Davis. He would absolutely. Yeah. He has to do that. I know. He's there, so it's easy for him.

Right. We should just show up. Yeah, honestly. He drives his little van around. Drives his little van. He's got a little Mini Cooper. He's got a lot of cars. Yeah.

But that guy, he's, I'll tell you this, man, like Mark has been, and will always be, he's been so good to me. You know, he is like the biggest critic of his football team, but at the same time, nobody loves him more. You know what I mean? And so, yeah, sure there's times where he's probably super frustrated with me.

Why didn't we do this? But he just wants to understand because he didn't come from that football coaching background and all that. And so he just wants to understand the why. And so as he keeps surrounding himself, Tom's there now in the ownership and it looked like Seymour may join and and that. And so he just wants to understand the why. Yeah. And so as he keeps surrounding himself, Tom's there now in the ownership and it looked like Seymour may join and all that.

Like as he keeps surrounding himself with like football people and all that and understanding that the process and that, I think that they'll have more success. Yeah. And so. And he also is just swaggy as hell. I freaking love it.

The white jeans. All white is such a good look. Oh yeah. And the haircut. I mean, it's a crazy haircut. He's the only one in the world who can a good look. Oh, yeah haircut. Yeah, I mean you It's a crazy haircut. He's the only one in the world who can pull it off He told me he's like so when I signed my first contract with him. He's I'm by your car I say alright sick like do I need to take it out of the deal? He's like no don't even worry about it. You know how far I got you

I like sick man because we always talk about cars together And so he's I'm coming over so he comes over and He pulls out this car about this big so Ferrari's I got it for your kids. I already gave you enough money Yeah, it's a good prank so you get his haircut in the facility never saw that okay, yeah He might cut his own hair he could I know I know that there's one person that does it and wherever that like he flies them in I do know that yeah, that's perfect. I yeah, we need to get pf change He'd be a great interview. Yeah, we're gonna get back to Derek car in a second He's brought to you by Viator Hank and I went on a nice little trip. Thanks to Viator last year We did a little riverboat cruise in Chicago, got to know the city.

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So me and AB, I loved AB. I loved AB, even at the end, he was like, Derek Carr, good dude, but couldn't handle AB. And I was like, you know what, you're probably right. I'm not. Like, wait, that also is kind of telling on himself. Like, he couldn't handle AB. It's like, you know what? You're probably right That also is like kind of telling on himself like Like could you just tone it down? Right, you know, I was waiting for him to say something crazy cuz I got like, you know

This is when I got mad at Pat McAfee actually cuz Pat was like hey B Price couldn't get the ball in practice and probably just wanted to leave and I was like bro I got about 40 clips. Yeah of I thought I was to win MVP that year. Yeah, getting him the ball. Oh my gosh. I was like, he's the hardest practicing player I've ever seen in my life. And he practices hard. He competes at just a different level.

And hopefully he's a Hall of Famer. As a player, he's a Hall of Famer. Numbers are insane. Insane. And I loved my time with him. I let him borrow my car. You know, like when he was in town, like he came out, like it's like a little four-seater Mercedes,

like eight people come jumping out of it to come film. I was like, I freaking love this. And it was only, what was it, like two weeks? We had it. Well, it depends. Like into camp, I think it was two weeks. Yeah, yeah. But you had signed before.

So we had a lot of time together throwing. But my man, there's so many freaking stories. Yeah. I mean, the Hard Knocks is like, it was just an electric Hard Knocks. My favorite part of that is like, you want to see my feet? I would love to see your feet. I'd need you out at practice.

I'll never forget, he comes out to practice the first time. After all that, he comes out in training camp, he runs a post corner, and usually we run the post corner and we want them flat at about 25, 30 yards. This man runs a post corner and takes off to the back pylon. I'm like, oh crap, I had to throw this thing like 70 yards. He just runs it down, catches it, ah, it goes like this to nobody.

You know? Like, wow, he comes running back. He's like, let's go again. He said, throw me a go. He goes over there runs a guard. I launched this go route. He freaking takes off touchdown. I'm like, I'm looking at grew. I'm like, bro, I'm I might throw for 6000 yards. Yeah. And Waller all these. Yeah. Right. Yeah. And then his trainer comes out. Yeah. Maybe he's done today.

I was like, perfect. Just get him to Sunday. Yeah, right. Right. You got a very delete on that, though. Did you ever see his feet? Uh, I did see his feet with it when they messed up. They were messed up. Wait, how do you get frostbite again? It was like in a cryo bathroom. Oh, yeah, wet socks and yeah Which I did not know that was a thing. Yeah, I didn't either they I've never heard anybody tell me that so I'm glad Yeah, I didn't walk in there and do that. Yeah, there was the sock thing, there was the hot air balloon. Hot air balloon was awesome. Yeah, it was great. He had the helmet.

He didn't like his helmet. Didn't like his helmet, tried to fight Mike Mayock. Yes. OK, so it was like the most impactful two weeks ever. He was really heard from. I thoroughly, I'll say this, I really enjoyed my time. Like you sit down one on one, you have a great conversation. Like he is awesome.

Yeah. But then he'll do something that's just hilarious. Yeah. And everyone would come to me like, Derek, can you go talk to him? I was like, bro, just let him be. Yeah, right. If that's the biggest knock on your career

that you couldn't handle, AB, I think I like that that's the line where you're like, yeah, you know what? I'm going to agree with the media on this one. I was like, you know what? I couldn't get it done. You know what? I failed you. I'm sorry.

Yeah. I did my best. You do seem like the best teammate ever. And we give you a lot of credit for the way things shook out in Las Vegas. I'll just say, because you won't say you're too nice, Josh McDaniels was a snake. And the way that whole thing went down, it was very snake-like. And you just put your best face forward.

And then you have an opportunity to go out and kind of select your next team. Saints are talking to you. The Jets are talking to you, right? Yep. So with the Jets thing, that was weird because you had to know they were also they wanted Aaron Rodgers, right? Yeah. Yeah. And the thing which was different in that situation, like, you know, Aaron's a 9 billion time MVP, right? And all that kind of stuff. But you still have to trade for him, whereas I'm free, you know, and you can still keep those picks. You can still, I was not asking for as much money

as whatever your market, whatever they say your market is. I was like, I don't want to do that because I want, wherever I go, man, I just want to win. And so use the money, I don't care. And so that situation, I remember sitting there with Salah, he's like, look, man, we'd love to have you. Like, it's like up to you. You know, I was like, I would love to make that decision right now.

Because Robert Schala is, he is like, I am like probably his biggest fan. Like I absolutely 10 out of 10 love him would run through a wall for him. Even if he's not my coach, I'd still like if he was like, I need you to do this. Yes, sir. I would do it. Yeah. And so like that whole situation, that was the hardest thing. Because my brother knew Coach Schah and he was like,

he knew I love New Orleans, but he's like, you're gonna see Salah. He was like, you're probably gonna stay. He was thinking I was gonna sign because of Salah. And I remember going there and I was like, I promised myself I had to go through the process because I didn't want to sign and then think, well, what did that team think?

Or what could they do? And so that was hard, but yeah, it was a weird situation. But at the same time, like, trading for Aaron wasn't a guarantee. Yeah, for them. You know, at that time. Yeah. So you could have made the decision right there. It was it was in your court. They were like, we want you to be the quarterback. I could have Yeah, I could have but there was a it just wasn't the right time for me because I had there was still like four or five teams that I had to hear from. And so it just ended up working out, really, for both of us. Yeah. So then you go to New Orleans. How long after you became a Saint did you actually start hating the Bucs? It didn't take me long because literally, they talk about the Bucs and the Falcons.

Falcons, obviously. I was like, well, I was like, what about the Panthers? But the Falcons and the Bucs like in our building and like around town, like there's like a real hatred. Oh, yeah. For some Southern really kind people. Yeah. They really hate those teams.

Yeah. The Bucks, they had the Bucks-Saints games. I feel like there's been a million fights too. Oh, yeah. Especially Marshawn. I know. Yeah. With lads, lads, lads competitive.

So him and Mike, they'd be getting after it. Always. You can pencil that in like Mike Evans probably will get ejected in the second quarter of this game. Yeah. It's crazy, because I know the fan. I think if you were to ask Saints fans, they would say, they hate the Falcons. That's the big one. But in terms of on the field stuff that we've seen,

it's been like Saints, Bucks, just like World War II. Oh, yeah. I think there's some deep personal stuff there, where people are just like, I just hate that man. Yeah. Like when we when we come in that week, and you're like, Alright, Sean, you got Mike, it's like, he just blacks out like for five days. Yeah, oh, he'll be ready on. Yeah, he's ready to go.

Yeah. What do you think? The media gets wrong about Derek Carr? Oh, I don't know. Yeah. Like what what do you, yeah, like, you know, there's, there's definitely perception about every guy, but it's always good. I always like to give people a chance to be like, Hey, look, like this is who I am. This is what I'm about that people get wrong about me. You know, it's hard, like I know it sounds so silly, but like I really have done my best, especially the last few years. Like I just don read or hear. I try and block all that out. But for me, I can tell you about me, I absolutely work my tail off.

I've tried from the beginning to be someone that kids could look at and be like, he does things the right way. He grinds, he's maxed out whatever God gave him. And he's gonna be a great teammate and he's gonna play a great teammate and he's gonna play consistent hopefully good football yeah you know and I think I think you know the way with the Raiders how it ended and stuff like that you know the one thing I can't get rid of is on Instagram these people put these lists out of quarterback

rankings yeah and that's those people those people are the worst no we're not gonna look at ours I don't know I don't know what it was back at 17 just piss people off we do we do them as trolls and it's so much fun. And my brother actually does the same thing too. He'll be like, yeah, Joe Montana is not one of the greatest, even though, you know, people just start responding. Yeah, they go, people get mad about quarterbacks. 100%. And so I think like, I think the disrespect of like, you know, some of the stuff I've been able to accomplish and like stuff I've put on film.

Even the last half of last year, I was like, bro, the last half of last year was probably my best football I've played. And 2016 MVP season that people wanna talk about in this season, that's like, I feel like I'm getting better. Yeah, that's awesome. I got comfortable, I feel like I'm getting better, I love my teammates. And I don't know, And I don't know. So I don't know what people are saying,

but I just feel like I'm still that guy. Yeah. You know? Yeah. I'm still that guy. And none of it matters until you go prove it. But we won nine games, and we didn't really even play good. Yeah.

And so you guys, it felt like it was always like one step forward, one step back, or two steps back kind of thing. That's how it felt. So hopefully, we can just go out there and prove it. That's what we want to do. But I still feel like I'm at the best part of my game. So hopefully, I can go out there and prove that this year.

I think we had you at 15, and I think we had Taysom Hill at 14. Taysom Hill, hey. Taysom's the best football player I've ever played with. He really is. He's a jackknife. He does everything. He's unbelievable.

They're not jackknifes. Swiss Army knife. Yeah, yeah. There we go. So Ronald Curry, who is the greatest athlete of all time, I'll say that, was our quarterback coach last year. RC was like, bro, when Taysom runs the football, he sees red. So I know that you're out there on the edge, probably wide open.

He won't see you. So we're playing in Carolina. I think it was Monday night football. We're on the five yard line. He runs a keeper right at me. And I see my corner take off because they're like, they always talk about don't touch anybody. Don't jam a finger for no reason.

So he takes off and I slip and I'm open in the end zone. And I look at Taysom's face. And for the nicest person in the world, I looked at him as the most violent, angry, and he just puts his head down between like three dudes and pretty much trucked them all. And I was like, dude, that was like the most violent, impressive thing I've ever seen.

But he can do everything. He can do everything. Throws, runs, catches, fullback, quarterback, tight end, receiver, slot, blocks, punts, personal protector. I was like, I don't, just because of how stats work, I don't know how it'll work, but like that man is a hall of fame football player.

Because he does every, he's the true sense Of a football player. Yes, everything. He really is Yeah, he just looks at a linebacker and then you just know he's gonna run at that linebackers face That's it. Like I'm I see a face. I'm gonna run through the face. Yes I feel like Sean Payton was in love with him. Oh, yeah, was he like had a weird man crush on him, right? Absolutely. Yeah. Oh gosh. Yes They like they thought I got nervous when I came, especially like, I didn't know how we handled the cap situation in New

Orleans. Somehow they always figure it out. Yeah, they're always in cap. But somehow, all of a sudden, we're signing Chase Young. I'm like, how did we just do that? But I was nervous like, oh, man, Sean's definitely going to try and trade for him or try and get him out. But thankfully, I'm like, dude, please don't let Taysom go.

Yeah. That's my guy like don't let him go. Yeah, have you ever caught a touchdown? Not in the NFL. I was wide open, Darren McFadden. We ran a Wildcat play my rookie year and I'm wide open down the side and he was throwing it and it ended up getting tipped at the line of scrimmage. That would have been my one.

That would have been the one. So hopefully. The other football guy we gotta talk about real quick because we're big fans of him, is Rich Visaccia. Yes. When he came into the locker room, was it just the vibe? Because again, that was the season that everything could have gone wrong, went wrong for the

Raiders. Yeah. But he, like, we wanted him to get the job. He felt like such a football guy. I would imagine it felt like that in the locker room, like everyone just rallying around this guy. Yeah, man's man. Yeah. Yeah, man's man cared just as much as he cared about us

winning and all that. He cared about you as being a husband and a dad. And like two quick examples of him, like the whole Cleveland game gets postponed. We don't know if we're taking their flight. We're about to get on the plane, and they end up getting us off the plane. So they end up postponing the game like two days.

He's like, guys, next two days, take them off, rest your bodies and you get your mind right and prove to me that what I did was the right thing. We came out and we were like the most aggressive I've ever seen our team. Like everyone did it because we didn't want to let him down. Right. For giving us those two days off. Yeah. Which I was like two days off before a game. Right. That's insane. Yeah.

But crazy times. But he does that. And then the other thing he's like, you know what you need to do? He's like, you need to write a letter. And he said, you need to start writing letters. And during this busy time, and let your wife know how you feel about her.

And I was like, I have to write a letter about team. You know what? Yeah, right. Write to your wife and just tell her thank you. And he said, sometimes I'll do it, and I'll put it In the mailbox for my wife so she'll find it whenever she checks me. I'm like this guy's the most well-rounded all-around Coach I've ever been around. Yeah, and so like he had the heart of our team. We all wanted him

We all we all are like, okay, we have everything set now Derek go figure out how to get Tay here Yeah, and we're good and we'll just build on what we have and They ended up obviously making a different choice. Yeah. Yeah, they did that was bad choice different vibes You're saying sure they hired a snake for sure different vibes Yeah, so that must have been an interesting time for you guys the craziest game Maybe in the NFL in terms of like the way it was set up and what we almost saw happen Was that game where you could have tied the Chargers right? Yeah. Both teams could have gone to the playoffs. Good memory. And it goes into overtime right? Was it 29-29? Yeah I think so. Yeah. Was there ever any talk about maybe we just let the

teams tie and everybody wins? So I think there probably was on the sideline, but in the huddle, they all sudden like, so we had a third down and I hit Zay Jones on a bench route. I remember I stepped up, hit Zay, and so I'm like, oh, here we go. Like our mindset was like, go score. This is a rival, kick them out. You know, like our mind, like there was,

that was one of the most violent games I played too. Like it was, everyone's battling for their life. Yeah, basically. And then we ran the ball. I think we ran it. I'm like, wait, what's going on here? So I remember there was a time out and I walked over there. I was like, let's end the freaking game. Send them home.

Yeah. I was like, even if we miss the kick, like the worst thing that can happen is we get it blocked and they run it back. Obviously I get that. But I was like, you got Carlson who never misses, especially with the game on the line. I was like, let's just get in there and let's run it back. Obviously, I get that. But I was like, you got Carlson, who never misses, especially with the game on the line. I was like, let's just get in there

and let's run the football. So then Josh ends up making a great run and getting us in position. And then they were like, all right, run it down. Take the time out. We'll kick it. Because there was a thought of, if we just let the clock run out, we're in.

Yeah. And Pittsburgh would have hated that. Yeah. So I think a lot of fans would have hated that. You guys did the right thing. Like, you played a win. Yeah. Played a win. Yeah. And Rich was that way, too. So maybe think a lot of fans would have hated that. You guys did the right thing. Like it's played a win. Yeah, play

to win. Yeah. And Rich was that way too. So maybe they were talking about it. But then he was like, no, beat him. Let's go beat these guys. Yeah, especially he gets to send his kicker out there. Yeah, special teams like, yeah, that's good point. Like, let's do it that way. Yeah. All right. Well, Derek, this has been awesome. I have one last questions. Row back question. R H O B A C K dot com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q Zips, Pol. It's RobackQuestion, R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com, promo code take. 20% off your first purchase.

Q-zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, 20% off, Roback, promo code take. This has been so much fun. We really appreciate you sitting down with us. How often, this is a tough question, how often have you watched the inadvertent whistle from the Bengals game? Oh, man.

That was crazy. That's still, I watched it last night before this interview. Yeah. And the whistle did come after Joe threw the ball, but it still is like the craziest thing because you can see everyone stop playing. Yeah.

And it's like, what the hell just happened? That one was hard because like, it was, I mean, whoever won that game, just being honest, like we felt like it was set up for that team to have a good chance to get the Superbowl. Yeah. Just the way the seatings were and all, like where you had it was set up for that team to have a good chance to get the Superbowl. Just the way the seatings were and all, like where you had to play and all that kind of stuff

and the matchups, right? And so for us, we were like, I sit back there and watch them like, how what could have been? And the one that, I think the one that hurts the most is the last play to me is when I had to force the ball in there. You know, the last play of the game

and I got jammed this ball in there. And it's like, you know, even our coaches, I wish we just got everybody in there, it's the last play of the game and I got jammed this ball in there. And it's like, even our coaches, I wish we just got everybody in the end zone on a certain play. So you could read it out and try and give someone a one-on-one. But I think of those two plays like all the time when I'm working out,

I'm like, I'm gonna get back to that situation. And like, it just, it feels you. You gotta find like, Mike Hattie was my best friend. He's like, you're a psychopath. Cause I'll make stories up. Like you to find like, I'm, my caddy, who was my best friend, he's like, you're a psychopath. He's like, I'll make stories up. Like you talk about like, I see Jordan do that. It's like, I make stories out like, yeah, they thought I couldn't do this or they thought,

you know, he's like, bro, you're freaking weird. Those are those are two, that's a game and that's a play. Like, and the whistle thing, you're like, I got to get back there. Yeah, yeah, you will like a vision board. Just think about that. Do you ever think about? when you're working out like in way way stronger in case you have to make a tackle like Like Mack Jones did when they did that double lateral against you guys how crazy was that that was nuts

So I remember sitting there and first of all Just being a Raider and Raider fans know this so I'm not being mean about it. We have lost in some crazy ways. That's a fact. In the last 10 years plus, right? And I remember when he broke the line scrimmage and took off, I was like, there's no freaking way we're about to lose like this on a run where they're trying to run the clock out.

He threw that ball back in the air, which I've never seen before. And Chandler caught it. And I was like, there's no way Mack tackles him. The Chandler's arms are like from here to there. And when he broke that tackle, it was the craziest thing ever. But what I have learned is I tried to hit Mike Mitchell in Pittsburgh one time.

There was a fumble, which was a blown whistle. I didn't hear the whistle because it was so loud. And he takes off, I take off. And I hit him as hard as I could, which probably looked just normal. And my whole shoulder went numb. I couldn't move it and My coach said if you ever do that again, I just won't play you. Yeah, and I was like, okay So now I let people get past me and I just grab them. Yeah

Yeah, the backpack on them just let them go by and then jump on I do a pick against Kansas City I let Breland get in front of me and then I went and cuz I could chase him and I grabbed him in through Yeah, you just got to show a little bit of effort for the tape. You don't have to make the tackle. Yeah, you just got to try. Yeah, you got to be like, all right, there he is running down the field.

That's fine. I had one last year. I threw it big against the Rams. It's a terrible throw. But I didn't see the guy throw it. And I'm standing there, and I'm like, please cut back. And he runs right at me. I was like, crap.

And then finally, he cut back. I just jumped on the tackle to try and get a stat. Yeah, right. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Well, Derek, thank you so much, man. We appreciate it. Absolutely. It's been a lot of fun.

Tell your brother to maybe unblock us. You don't unblock PFT, but tell your brother. We've got a system. I'm not going to, because I like our system. Yeah, yeah. But your brother could unblock us. And we'll probably get blocked again like two seconds later. But that's fine.

That's a part of the game. It's all love. Cat and mouse. I appreciate you guys for it. Yeah. And good luck this weekend. Thanks so much. Thank you. Yeah, it's all about cat and mouse. I appreciate you guys for it. Yeah, good luck. Thanks so much. Thank you. Yep, thanks.

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the shades rated 5 stars by over 300,000 people. And now for something completely different. Okay we now welcome on our good friend Shane Bacon. You can listen to him on Get a Grip and Ping Proving Ground. He's got a book, The Golfers Zoo, great children's book. He is a golf guy through and through and we wanted to do an open championship preview with Shane. So Shane, let's start with this. Let's start with a, I know you always have great stories and backgrounds, but Royal Trune

Give us the background of Royal Trune the golf course and what we should expect when we're watching this weekend early mornings Which I actually love at the Open Championship Yes So I got it. I went over to Scotland after college big cat and actually caddied at st Andrews for a summer that was like my job out of college. And I went and played rural true didn't know much about it. And I walked away and said to myself, my dad was there with me.

And I said, this is my favorite links course that I played to this point. So I love it. This is 10th open championship. It's hosted first since 2016 had both some awesome winners and some random winners, Todd Hamilton, of course, beating Ernie yells there back in the day. I think that was in 2004, but this is a pretty demanding driving golf course for

an open, you know, you go to places like St. Andrews and you can kind of hit it all over the place. Even with Fescue up, this is a place where if you start missing fairways, you can find yourself in the Gorse. I mean, some of these corridors are really, really tight and they've done a good job of kind of tighten those up for this Open Championship. So I love it. You see a lot of water when you play this golf course,

probably as much ocean as you'll see playing any of the open road of golf courses. And like I said, I mean, I get obsessed when they return to rural June just because it's one of my favorite personal golf courses over there. So with the water, if this golf course is windy any day, is it become almost unplayable? Because I feel like that happens sometimes at the Open Championship where if the wind

is really whipping, it's like these guys got no chance. I don't think I'd go as far as to say unplayable. And the word I'm hearing from people over there is that this is a little bit of a greener golf course than some of the ones in the area. The RNA kind of making sure that with some of the weather they're predicting later in the week that the balls aren't going to roll off the greens. If you guys remember 2015 Brooks Koepka when he was not Brooks Koepka basically told the RNA I'm not going to keep playing at St. Andrews because it was so windy and this was like when he was just the European Tour golfer not you know kind of the

stud that he is now. That I think is the fear for the RNA is that if it gets super windy and there's that much exposed greens, like you see at St. Andrews and you see at Trune, then maybe they'd have to pull people off the golf course. So I think that's part of the reason you're gonna see a little bit of a greener rural Trune than maybe you'd expect, or even some of the golf courses in the area.

Yeah. Okay. So the wind is gonna be the real X factor because I feel like with US us open we root for the course It's our favorite thing to do. Yeah with the British open. It's almost like excuse me the open championship, please. I apologize You root for the weather sometimes you root for like the conditions. Yeah, Mother Nature is like the top pick at this one I think you can also root for the course PFT I mean, I think this is a place where they've condensed the golf courses on the road over there. So you only see six or seven courses, really.

So I think it's a chance to kind of root for your All-Star team. I mean, you get Rural True and you get St. Andrews. They occasionally will pop over to Ireland. But for the most part, there are six or seven places that we know and we love. So you can root for both Mother Nature and the golf course. Yeah, I like that. So yeah, it's going to be very interesting.

We've already got some drama to start the week off. Tiger and Monte are going at it, calling Montgomery. What did Montgomery say? He said, like, maybe it's time for Tiger to retire. Talking about his recent play, and then Tiger fired back and said, well, they let you play here for the rest of your life if you win. Yeah. Yeah, Montgomery was basically saying, this is not the Tiger Woods that I grew

up watching that I grew up competing against the fiery competitor I think is the terminology he used about Tiger. He was basically saying this isn't you know this is Roger Federer playing tennis at the age of 50 right and Tiger fired back and said I get a chance to play the open until I'm 60 years old that's basically the cutoff at the open. Call of Montgomery does not get so, Call of Montgomery never won a men's major championship, arguably the greatest player in golf history, not to win a men's major. So yeah, Tiger firing back.

Listen, Tiger's never gonna dig deep into who you are, but he's gonna lay lines out like that. Like you remember the Stephen Ames thing, his answer about the talk from Ames back in the match play days, he just simply said nine and eight is what he beat him at. I think this is kind of typical Tiger in terms of the response.

I'll say this. I think it's good for Tiger. I think somebody taking a shot at this guy, you know, you guys follow golf, you know around the major championships. I know you guys follow Tiger Woods wins the last time somebody took a shot at Tiger. It rarely happens if ever. So if he needs bulletin board material or some reason to get a little bit more

fired up and go out there and play well, maybe this helps him this week, you maybe maybe even make the cut. This is that's right. I mean, or bulletin board. He's he hasn't shot around in the 60s since Riviera last year. So that's about 18 months ago. So yeah, anything that could maybe help him go out there and play a decent run of golf will be helpful. Okay, so the other story, Rory coming off of maybe the worst

Loss you could have as a golfer he peeled out of the driveway after the He almost hit several people yeah, he didn't talk to the media he released a statement afterwards So he's talking to the media this week I saw that also there was a funny story that Tiger texted him two days after gave him a couple of days, but Rory had changed his number. So he ghosted Tiger.

But what, where do you think Rory is at mentally? Can he win this? This, he feels like the guy, especially in the last few years where he has been so close so many times and played such great golf and he has nothing to show for it. I think he can absolutely win in any major championship. I think it's so easy for golf people to go, I like Rory this week. Well, you like Rory at every major. He finishes in the top 10 every single time. There's a big difference obviously in finishing in the top 10 and winning. I think for Rory, he can look back at 2011, you know, that, that complete,

you know, like second nine at Augusta National, you know, basically debacle from Rory McRoy. He started hitting balls left and making huge numbers and loses the Masters. He won the next major championship after that by eight shots. And that has been something that Rory has been great throughout his career is that kind of bounce back ability. So in that regard, yes,

I think it could be a good week for Rory. I don't see this being a great place for him. I just, I feel like the unpredictability of, of Lynx golf, the weather expected with the high winds. I'll give you guys this. I know you guys are an NFL podcast for the most part. The Masters is a Super Bowl. The PGA Championship is opening week of the NFL.

Everybody gets excited, but it's not the most important part of the season. I feel like the US Open's kind of divisional championship weekend where everybody that makes it to that point has a chance to win, but it's going to be very, very tough to do so. The Open is a snow game. There's just so much unpredictability involved in a snow game.

Maybe you can throw the ball. Maybe you got to run it. You don't know if you can depend on your kicker at all. That's what I look at here. And you've got to go back to 2010 with Rory. The opening round of St. Andrews he shoots 63 and should have shot 62. The weather picks up, the wind starts blowing, he shoots 80 the second round. There's just so much unpredictability going

into this week and what we should expect from Rory. He played fine last week. I just don't see him as a winner at Royal Troon considering the golf course and kind of the weather and what we expect to see there. I love that you just mansplain golf to us in football terms, but that was the perfect analogy. I get it now. Yeah, like you don't know, you don't know if there's so much snow

that it's gonna be really good for the offense or there's just a little bit of snow, so it's just gonna be a mucky game altogether. I like that. Yeah, it was an aha moment for me. I was like, oh, that, oh shit, that makes sense. So if we're to pull on that thread a little bit and extrapolate it Lashaw McCoy was like the greatest running back ever the greatest snowgame play ever

Who is the Lashaw McCoy of? Golf who can play the best in the worst conditions. I think Brooks would be my answer to this I feel like Brooks is the kind of guy that if it's windy, if it's nasty, if it's fine. Obviously, he's played well on golf courses with no wind at all. I feel like Brooks is one of those guys kind of like Jack Nicholas back in the day or Jack. Sorry, Jack Nicklaus. Right. How do you say it? My bad. Sorry.

The famous golfer. But, you know, you think back to the way Jack kind of approached major championships, you said anybody that was a complainer to the U. S. Open. I knew I could be. I feel like Brooks is very similar in that vein where he goes into these weeks going, I hope it blows. I hope it's nasty. And if it's not, that's fine too. I can still shoot 65. Yeah, can you, uh, can you do a comparison for Bryson to Shabbo? What NFL player would he be? I mean, I mean, maybe Aaron Rogers. Maybe that's the comp for Bryson where you either love him or you don't like him at all.

I mean, I know big cat has had an interesting relationship with Aaron over the years. I mean, Aaron Rogers, you know, the one the one Super Bowl, right? And I mean, if that's his legacy, that'll be a very interesting thing to follow up. I mean for Bryson, I think the biggest difference for me is Bryson's ability to play these types of golf courses. You think about the way you play Pinehurst he's not winning a Piners three years ago,

but he's changed his game. And he's kind of opened his mind up to playing different types of golf when it asks the one thing about this golf course is this is the most demanding driving golf course that you'll see all year long in terms of major championship golf. And Bryson can get a bit squirrely with the driver. We know he hits it forever. He doesn't always hit a ton of fairways. So that'll be kind of the thing I pay attention to is

Bryson willing to hit the driving iron or the long iron off a lot of these teas like so many of the other players or is he going to try to bang driver like we saw at pine ourselves over the place? So this golf course, um, correct me if I'm wrong, but like I've been reading about like who to bet on and who has a good chance and the name Colin more kawa comes up a lot because this golf course doesn't penalize guys who can't hit it a million miles down the course. So that like speaking about a Rory, like he, his biggest strength is a little bit neutralized. Is that fair to say? And is it a golf course that guys who don't hit it the distance that Rory or Bryson hit it are gonna have just as good of a chance to win?

Yeah, the the PGA championship and the US Open have kind of become and even I mean even Augusta National for that matter I mean you want to be able to hit the ball as far as humanly possible that gives you the best edge I got a great Justin Ray stat for you on that big cat Justin Ray on Twitter who has all the great stats and does an Amazing job. He said since 2014 55% of the Masters winners, PGA winners, and US Open winners have ranked in the top 10 that week in driving distance. None of the last eight Open champion winners have done so.

To your point, you don't have to bang the golf ball to do well here. You look at Brian Harmon a year ago, not a long hitter of the golf ball. He contends. This remains the random major championship, right? This is the one where you can be older. You don't have to be the young dude. You don't have to be the young stud. You

can be an older player. We've seen a lot of randomness across the board over the last 20 years in terms of winners at open championships. So yeah, I think for calling more Akawa you heard him talk after the Masters, you know, he goes I'm hitting five iron when Scottie Schaeffler sit Nate iron. That's not so much the case that an open he can get around in similar fashion. Somebody like Scotty or Rory. It's a thinking man's tournament. Yeah, absolutely. I think it's a thinking man's tournament. I think it's an old guy's tournament as well. I think this is the place where you could

still see someone in their forties or maybe even in their fifties compete content and potentially win. What about Scotty Schaeffler? He's mentally kind of like a 55 year old kind of looks like a 55 year old as well. He does. I mean, I love Scotty everywhere. This is the one major he hadn't quite figured out yet, but I'll say this about Scotty. He's had an unbelievable year. We talk about his wins. Obviously, he wins the second time at Augusta National. If he goes through this season like he did last year without another of the majors, I think it'll be slightly glaring because when you talk about Scottie, you're talking about one of the greatest of this generation, if not the greatest of this generation. He's only, quote unquote, only won the Masters, right? So for him to go through these US Opens and PGA's and be close and not win, I think

this is as important a week as it is to Rory McElroy, as it is for Scottie Scheffler in that regard. Because if he doesn't win this, do we look at the season as a great year where he only won one major championship? If he wins this, you're talking about one of the great seasons we've seen over the last 25 years. One of the great seasons over the last 40 years

in the non-tiger division. Yeah, and what about our dear friend Max Homa? Is this a tournament that can shape up for Max's game? Tell us that Max has a chance. Max absolutely has a chance at an open. I just feel like with the way he can drive the golf ball, he hadn't played great golf as of late, but I feel like Max is one of those guys that, like I said about Brooks, he's one of those dudes that can kind of lean into nasty conditions, wins are up. I'm not going to let it affect me like some of the other guys that are maybe weaker minded out on the tour.

Okay, I like that a lot. I like that very much. And yeah, I think, listen, we're all, we're all rooting for Max here. It feels like the last couple of tournaments he hasn't been at the top of his game. Is that fair to say? Yeah. I think over the last, I think he'd be the first to say over the last five, six months really since the Masters,

he hadn't played his greatest golf. He didn't play great at the Scottish last week, but the open last year was really important for Max. So maybe you'll get some good vibes from the way he played at the open last year and go out there and put together something like we saw at Augusta. Okay. So what about long shots or even any, any, any picks? Cause I will probably bet I got so, I got so many for you, by the way, because I did want to, I wanted to say something. I wanted to ask you this question because we were talking about snow games earlier.

I think I've never won a bet betting on the weather, like betting the under in snow games or games. How are you in terms of looking at the forecast and then making your bet on that? Snow games are my favorite because everyone like thinks, oh, this is going to be an under and it's their snow verse for a reason because it's so hard for the defense to get off and to be able to like when you, when the offense knows where they're going and the defense is trying to figure it out and they're sliding everywhere that that Lashon McCoy game that had like a million points. So yeah, whenever there's a snow game,

wait till the last minute and then hit the over cause it always comes down. Everyone bets the under and then you just bet the over right before kickoff. And it's usually a good bet. It's gotta be a good, it's gotta be like a good amount of snow though. It can't be just like a light dusting, it has to be real snow. Like you need to be using the plow, not the shovel. Yes, right. That's kind of the deal. I like that.

I like that. All right, I got some names that I like this week and then I got a couple sleepers for you guys. I like Shane Lowry this week, top 20 in his last two major championships. Been very, very consistent this year, seems to good vibes. And also he's 16th on tour this season in driving accuracy. So hits a whole bunch of fairways already won an open championship. I like Corey Connors this week a little bit. He's played incredibly consistent golf. I think he's made 26 straight cuts. Just

feels like one of those guys. The open championship doesn't demand a ton when you get on the greens. That's the part of Corey Connors game that maybe he isn't as good as maybe a Scottie Scheffler or a Rory McElroy, but he is an incredible ball striker. So I like Corey. I like Aaron Rye a lot, the 29 year old Englishman. This just his seventh major championship. He's played incredible golf as of late. I think he's finished in the top seven in his last three starts and he's played well in the majors this year. So those are my sleepers. I got my pick. Do you want the guy I think is going to actually win this thing? Yeah. I'm going to Adam Scott and he played well last week. So it's not as kind of like shocking of a pick. He's 44 years old, um, finishing the top 10 hasn't finished in

the top 10 in a major since 2019, but I feel like he's one of those guys. It's Adam Scott and Sergio Garcia that shouldn't end their career with one major title. And But I feel like he's one of those guys. It's Adam Scott and Sergio Garcia that shouldn't end their career with one major title. And so I feel like Adam is playing well. He's talked a lot this year about prepping his game around the major championships. Still feels like he has a chance to win one. And you go back to 2012, he came so close, made bogey on his last four holes to lose to Ernie Ells by one. I think Adam's going to be a factor this week. Okay. And you used a word earlier in this interview. I know what it means, but I don't think Big Cat does. So if you could explain it to Big Cat, uh, Gorse. Yeah. What's the term? Yeah, I'm an idiot.

I have no idea what it is. I know exactly what it is. I thought it was a type of duck. I know exactly what it is, but I just don't want to say it. Yeah. I was hoping that you would tell him. Please tell me. Yeah. Some would say it's a horse that kind of hangs out around rural Troon, but it's the big green bushes with the stickers inside. You can't go in there. You can't search for a golf ball, but it is nasty, gnarly. And if you hit it in there, it's basically like you hit a ball out of bounds. So that's the no zone. When I was caddying at St. Andrews, if a player hit it in there and asked me to look for it, I would just kind of like walk slowly away from the player until I couldn't hear him anymore.

What? So if it goes into the gorse, there's a tournament official that comes out and says you can't even look for your ball in here. I mean you can look for it, but like legitimately the needles and somebody from the UK is probably going to correct me on this, but I've heard and this might be like the caddy thing. We used to do this in Scottsdale a lot when people come out to play like I worked at True North and we'd always tell them it was rattlesnake season just simply to keep them going. Even if it wasn't rattlesnake season so they wouldn't go out and spend 20 minutes searching for a golf ball.

I heard that there are bacteria on the end of like the sticky parts of gorse bushes. So not only do you get pricked and it hurts but it also gets infected quickly. Again that might just be a caddy tail but that was what I was told back when I went over and and looped it. I like that. I like that. Yeah. Don't touch that. Yeah, they will like a blue injury if you get it's it's what we tell our children That's basically all the time right? It's like it's like the children stuff. Oh, I had that happen to me We were on vacation July 4th week and my kids like picked some berries and I was like do not eat those berries and then

My wife was like no they can eat those those are like blueberries and I was like shit But then you have to explain for every berry now. Yeah, I was like do not eat those berries, and then my wife was like no they can eat those those are like blueberries And I was like oh shit, but then you have to explain for every berry now Yeah, I was like no no don't yeah, don't a random berries. Just say the Gorse is hot lava. You can't touch it Yeah, right just say just say no to everything your children's ask and then you can go back from there is what I write I basically learned in my in my young run of being a parent. Yes, all right. I got one last question It's a row back question our rhobak.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q-zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rowback.com promo code take. How are the pop bunkers? That's my favorite part of the open championship. What would you rank the pop bunkers at Royal Troon versus some of the other courses they

play the open championship at? I mean, some of the best pop bunkers. Oh, hell yes. Great pop bunkers all across the fairway, around the holes. There's a hole you're going to see a lot this week called the postage stamp. Very very short part three. I think it's the shortest part three they play on the open road, 123 yards, tiny green, ton of pop bunkers, big cats. So if you don't hit your wedge on the green, you're going to be kind of scrambling to make four.

By the way, my dad, only time he played a rule of true and made birdie on a, on the postage stamp. And he basically wanted to walk off the golf course. So shout out to, to Monte B on, on the great shot into there. That's awesome. Yeah. Walk off after eight. Yeah. Is, is, wait, Monte B is, is bacon, not your stage name? No real name. Wow. So your dad was like a porn star name. Your dad's name is Montgomery bacon. It wasn't Montgomery It's just money by the way, Marty Bruce

Bacon so very old school in terms of the one two punches there, but I'm BB bacon's the way to go I mean, it's it's you know, I big cats your name, right? That's yeah. That's my given name. That's that's crazy What a neat I mean, that's awesome. Yeah powerful name Was it one of those names that people made fun of when you were like a little kid? Yeah, but then you realize like this rocks. Yeah, cuz no one's gonna forget your name when you're five to 13 it stunk and then I've kind of post 13 people thought it was pretty cool Yeah, that is a very cool name wake up with your friends at like 7 a.m. Hit a joint. It's waking bacon time Yeah, you do that. I mean I may have done that before

time. Yeah, I mean, I may have done that before. How hard is it not to do like every show that you've ever done trying to work bacon into the name? Well, I mean, I get a lot of people, you know, the weirdest thing question I get big cat on a kind of a weekly basis is if you give somebody your name, they ask you how to spell it. Yeah, I'll always say how do you not spell it? Like there's only one way to spell bacon, right? Yeah. But yeah, I don't know if I always squeeze it in interviews, but I might start. I mean, I think that might, could that propel me to another planet, you think? Yeah.

Yeah. Bacon and fried eggs, the golf podcast. Eggs and bacon, yeah. Yeah, I think there's something to work with here. So wait, going back to the postage stamp, why is it called the postage stamp? I think because it's the green so small. These are the smallest greens on the open rota,

and the postage stamp is tiny, tiny, tiny. So again, it's a wedge. I mean, it's kind of one of those hit a good shot or you're going to make four. And we've seen guys make holes in one there. We've seen great shots. But you can make a huge number on it if you don't hit a great shot.

And the wind on Thursday, it's supposed to be very windy on Thursday. The wind's kind of coming in from a different direction. So I think it's going to be in the face on the postage stamp. So you might see eight iron, seven iron from these players from 120. Oh, wow. Interesting.

So one last question for you. There's a Swedish golfer, Eberg. And he seems to be always kind of hovering around the top of the leaderboard, at least recently at some of the majors. From everybody that I've talked to, they say that physically he's one of the best golfers in the world, bar none.

Total stud, yep. So is this a course that sets up perfectly for his game or is this one where it's like, okay, he needs more experience, the physical tools don't necessarily translate over? I mean, it would be to me and I don't want to like get above my skis here with Ludwig because he is so young and he hadn't played a lot of these things, but it would kind of be like asking, does this basketball court work for Steph Curry? Like shooting wise? I mean, all of these, the dude hits it a mile. He hits it incredibly straight. He's an awesome iron player. Really. The only thing he's got to figure out is how to kind of close these things out.

He struggled in final rounds, but absolutely like this golf course, he could play well. He's going to hit driver a lot when a lot of guys won't because he hits it so straight. I feel like he's one of those dudes that is going to play well at open play well at Augusta play well at us opens like he's kind of the next it dude in my opinion. Okay. Okay. All right. Love it. Well, Shane, thank you so much. The finale for the major championships always kind of bittersweet feels like I know there's more golf to play, but it does feel like this is kind of the end. But we're excited to watch and we appreciate all your insight. 260 days come Sunday night until the next men's major round. That's the first round of the master.

So yes, it is a long, long break. Thanks boys. Always appreciate the time. All right. Thanks Shane. Okay, we'll wrap up with guys on chicks great interview with Derek Carr great guy We're Derek Carr fans now great guy. You can't it's like the Kirk Cousins interview Yeah, he's such a nice guy that you can't help but root for any address the mascara allegations. He did which is good to hear Yeah, all right guys on chicks Hank My husband claims that to be considered athletic you have to be able to play multiple team sports in his mind the best athletes Of all time are people like Danny Ainge and Deon

Sanders because they excel in multiple sports. According to his logic, people like Michael Phelps and Usain Bolt are not necessarily athletic unless they can play multiple sports. Yeah, Michael Phelps is water merchant. I disagree. This argument started after he claimed that even though I was a nationally ranked figure skater, I am not athletic because I didn't play sports like soccer, lacrosse, etc. Should he be admitted to a mental hospital or am I in the wrong here? Yeah, I think he has a fair point which is you can specialize in certain things Yeah, to get to the figures you have to be athletic to be a fucking figure skater

Yeah, that's not like his ideas that Michael Phelps is not athletic. I think he's just trying to you know Put his put his wife down. I guess yeah also saying Usain Bolt isn't athletic is a wilder take I think than saying Michael Phillips isn't the Olympics are just basically for not ball sports Yeah, you say bolt is the fastest human being that's ever existed on planet. He's the epitome athletic Yeah, and so is Michael Phelps Michael Phelps, but take away the water. What do you got true? Probably a guy who would have been like an awesome Rower tight end. I guess that's no water also. Yeah Yeah, Michael Phelps bum. Yeah, just some random pothead so happened to find a pool when he was young sucks

Come on the pod my thought it was a gravity bong. Yeah My girlfriend has paid for a wedding venue for a wedding on May 31st and started buying everything for it The kicker is we just went ring shopping and I haven't proposed yet. Do you think this is strange? Yeah, wait, so you're engaged but not engaged she she got you engaged by renting Yeah, but those things fill up so she had she acted fast, but yeah, that's um I'd be worried I'd be a little worried that feels also like After you get married she's gonna like

She's gonna name your your children before you're pregnant kind of thing. Oh, she's already got a beard Yeah, that is a bad always weird weird thing to do There's a notebook somewhere in your house with your signature with your boyfriend's last name. Yeah, my third child went Almost 72 hours without a name We were just like we don't know male Cuz it was like Like I will figure it out Like I would toss we were tossing around different names. And then finally when we like had to leave the hospital, they're like, you need a name

to leave the hospital. So I'm curious just from her perspective, do you, do you feel like a little bit of a psycho getting a wedding venue rented out without being engaged? Uh, yeah, you gotta be. This has got to be the girl that's like all her friends are already married. Yeah. Like she's on. Yeah. She's got, she's trying to, yeah. Yeah, no, she's, she's already got the, she's like all her friends are already married. Yeah, like she's on. Yeah, she's got she's trying to yeah Yeah, no, she's she's already got the she's already probably got a house picked out where the baby room is gonna be everything

Yeah, she's got her she got her vision board you got to propose to him and he just hasn't said yes yet Yeah, all right last one. We don't want to we don't want you to break up at what point At what point do you start thinking to yourself like, he hasn't asked me yet? Oh, she's definitely. Also, who goes ring shopping? Actually, no, maybe. Do guys and girls go ring shopping together?

No, usually it's like best friend. Yeah, we just went ring shopping. But also, PFT, I think she- I thought that's the whole point. She might also be the type of girl that just doesn't care that he's not asked like we're doing this no matter What would you ask or not? Yeah, we're getting there. There's gonna be some tough questions You'll have to answer come Thanksgiving. Yes, regardless of whose house you go to yes All right last one my boyfriend plays in beerly cocky, and we first started dating

I went to everyone belatedly with life stuff. I haven't gone much the last And we first started dating I went to everyone belatedly with life stuff. I haven't gone much the last Fee I went to was the only the last fee last time I guess I'm so beat last time last time I went last game I went to I was the only wife girlfriend there and worried that maybe I shouldn't go anymore Because I didn't want to intrude on a guy's thing I guess my question is do guys like it when their girlfriends go to stuff that for them Does it make a difference now? They're not now. I feel like when I asked my question is, do guys like it when their girlfriends go to stuff like that for them? Does it make a difference? No, they're not. No, I feel like when I asked my boyfriend, he doesn't want to make me feel bad. I'm not going, but I also don't want to intrude on

guy time. Yeah. It's the last times I was the only girlfriend there. Yeah. And you not go. And also when you're the only woman in the stands, what do you think his teammates are talking to me? Yeah. Do not go. I don't, don't go to your boyfriend's intramural games. Guys wanna feel athletic, they don't wanna think about how their girlfriend's looking at them being like you are not athletic. And they also want to be able to have the freedom of always being like, you wanna grab a beer after?

Yes. And they wanna be able to come home whenever they're done with that beer and tell you how great they played and lied to you. And if you were there, then they can't do that and they also want to be they want to say hey I'm grabbing a quick beer with my with the team after I'll be home in a little bit and have six beers and be home in a lot of it yeah he wants the freedom to to go on like a road trip with his beer league yeah and sleep like six people in a one bed hotel room get hammered until like five o'clock in the morning Smoke cigarettes and not have you be like hey when you're coming home credit to you though because You at least had the awareness. Yeah feels like you were halfway there. Yeah step one. Yeah Okay, good show boys, but on a heater

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