Pardon My Take - Derrick White, Adam Thielen, Hank Shaves His Head And Gets An Incredible Offer From A Special Call In

Episode Date: June 21, 2024

It’s time for Hank to shave his head and JJ Redick is a trailblazer for podcasters everywhere (00:00:00-00:12:56)-. Hank gets a special call in to offer him a day of a lifetime (00:12:56-00:26:15). NCAA is trying to expand the tourney again and Monty Williams is living the dream (00:26:15-00:28:38). Caruso traded to OKC for Josh Giddey (00:28:38-00:33:58). We then welcome on Derrick White from the world champion Boston Celtics to talk about this past week, his new contract, Hank shaving head, his broken teeth and tons more (00:33:58-00:55:02). Carolina Panthers Wide Receiver Adam Thielen joins the show to talk about his golf game, the past season with the Panthers, Kirk Cousins and more (00:55:02-01:28:52). We finish with Fyre Fest of the week (01:28:52-01:44:45).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. On today's pardon my take, Hank shaves his head. Alok would always pays his debts. Alok would always pays his debts. We have Derek White, Boston Celtic champion on the podcast because he was the original person who we did the bet with. So he shows, he comes on the show,

we talk to him about what was it, Monday night? Yeah, Monday night, what it's been like after the parade coming up. We also have very special guest Adam Thielen from the Carolina Panthers. Great interview with him. We're gonna talk about J.J. Reddick to the Lakers. Catch up with anything else. We're gonna do Mount Rushmore season on Monday.

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Okay, let's go. Now in the street there is violence And then there's lots of work to be done No place to hang out or wash in And then I can't play all on the sun Oh no, we're gonna rock down to Electric Avenue And then we'll take it higher Oh, we're gonna rock down to Electric Avenue It's Pardon My Take presented by Parcel Sports. Welcome to Pardon My Take presented by DraftKings. Download the DraftKings Sportsbook app. Use code TAKE.

New customers bet five bucks. Get 150 and bonus bets instantly. That's code TAKE. Only on DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Friday, June 21st and Hank is going to shave his head. Let's go Hank. Let's do it.

Hank, Hank. I think you're going to look good Hank. Yeah. So if you're watching the show. I don't. He's shaving it right now, live on air. He's going to look good. I feel good about this Hank walk us through what you're thinking about then we're gonna talk some other sports I think you know, it's I'm a man of my word. This show is built on being a man of your word I said I was gonna do something and I'm doing it. So

You know at someone someone here has to be accountable Yeah, it seems it seems like you should just celebrate what you're doing right now instead of trying to make a pointed reference. Well, I don't want to do it. Some people when they don't want to do it, they just kind of avoid it or say blame other people and say they can't do it. No, it's memes' fault. I don't really want to be doing this.

You can appreciate that. But I said I would do it. But I am. As a man that knows how tough memes can be to work with, memes ruin the scheduling of the perm. But this isn't about my perm, Hank. This is about- I didn't bring up your perm is about you looking you didn't

bring it up no he didn't no he didn't you look great I think this is a good look for you you might even just be a bald guy yeah memes said when you when we went down to just this so you got you got it obviously buzzed first now you're getting it fully shaved memes said if you just added some muscle you just be every dude from Long Island. Yeah. I mean, the eyebrows to the eyebrows, I think it really exposes how I don't know. I got to do something with them. We can clean them up. Yeah. We can clean them up. Read them. Yeah. It makes me look. I just look like a scary. Your barber. Yeah. Joel Fresh cuts.

Shut my guy pulls up to the office. Great golfer. Great dude. Fallen on his own. And I think every night has of golf together a couple Everybody Hank knows it has played golf with him at some yeah. Yeah, who doesn't golf with their bar barber. I love it Yeah, hey, oh, yes best score. Thank you. You do look good. There is like a slight prison vibe going on Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah be honest with me I you agree no I don't I don't need to hear that shit I know I look like a like a psychopath you're shank Lockwood yeah yeah like I feel like if I see this guy is wearing a Celtic jersey probably has a knife in his belt but I

do think you look good and the way that you can tell that you actually look good is because right when you start to get shaved memes goes oh fuck he actually looks good and memes was rooting for you so badly to just look like a giant good is because right when you start to get shaved memes goes oh fuck he actually looks good and memes was rooting for you so badly to just look like a giant penis and it turns out that you look okay. Yeah. Yeah I mean if you again when Derek White and Pritchard were here if you told me right then that the Celtics was winning the championship I just have to shave my head I'm making that

bet ten times out of ten. Going to the parade today should be a good time. So you know what? Fuck it. You're ready to go. It's all about confidence. You're ready to go. All right, so we'll update once you get fully shaved. We do have news.

We have JJ Reddick is now the coach of the Los Angeles Lakers. Oh memes, are we ready for my surprise? I don't like this at all. Memes, are we ready for my surprise? Not yet. All right, so just let me know when I have a surprise for Hank But yeah, JJ Reddick coach of the Lakers Huge we so the news broke during the Derek White interview, so we mentioned it quickly, but my first thought was It's huge for the podcast community. It is us podcasters can do anything. It's important to have

Representation in the media. Yes. Growing up, if you're a kid out there with a podcast, you can look at JJ Raddick and say, I too one day can coach the Lakers. Yes. And I mean, a little behind the scenes here, but this kind of means that Tommy Alter is the secret advisor to the coach of the Los Angeles Lakers. Oh.

So I think that makes us very powerful too. It does. We have the ear of the man with the ear Do you think JJ will continue to come on this show? Now that he's the Los Angeles Lakers head coach. No, you think he's gonna pretend that we never existed. Yes Probably I think that's a safe bet. I think he'll still throw us a bone once in a while I think maybe if he wants to be a champion if he wants to be a champion Yeah, that's a precedent's been set. It's a good point

But also at the same time there might be a guy on the team that probably doesn't want him to come on to part of My team he already was doing a podcast with that with said guy. Oh, are you talking about LeBron? Yeah, actually That's that's our true representation. We could be LeBron as well. We could well. Yeah, so you could be LeBron I'll be JJ LeBron gives me visibility because you can be a podcaster that loves to drink. Yeah. And now I'm like, okay, I could also be a multiple time NBA champion. Yeah, exactly. So I mean, good for JJ.

Congrats to JJ. I think we all thought this was going that way. It is a very weird story on the surface level. Like, JJ, I think is gonna be a good coach. So I'm not saying that he doesn't deserve the shot here. But if you had said 15 years ago that there'll be these things called podcasts and JJ Reddick will end up being the coach of the Los Angeles Lakers partly because he had a podcast with LeBron James. What are you fucking talking about right now?

Do you think they're gonna keep the podcast going? I think they have to. And then maybe this was just, this might have been a play by both of them just to increase the podcast numbers. True. Like LeBron was probably gonna retire. JJ's like, I don't wanna be a head coach.

Oh, well, you know what's a great way to get the YouTube account up? How about we just work together for the Lakers? That's a great fucking point, PFT. And I want it on the record that we've always done this podcast natural. We've never we've never dated Taylor Swift. We've never became the Lakers head coach. It's the juice ball. It is.

It's crazy. Everyone's got all these tricks and bits trying to get all their numbers up. We just show up and we run the ball every day.'s all we do and we do the podcast because we do the podcast yeah well Hank gets his head shaved yeah we're not about gimmicks no fuck that it is bullshit we're competing against the juice ball of the podcast yeah we need to figure out we were talking about maybe Hank dating Beyonce stealing away from Jay-Z as a possibility Maybe max hooking up with sexy red. Maybe maybe memes getting cardi B pregnant. Yeah But you I just thumbs up that yeah, I think we got to step it up

I think we really have to to figure out a real solid play here. Actually, I'm Jake. He left part of my take to go Married Jill Biden. So Jill is divorcing Joe. Dr. Jill? Yeah, Dr. Jill is now Dr. Jill Marsh. I could see Jake being the first, what would be the, his wife would be the president. Yeah, the first dude. First dude of America. Yeah, first dude. I could see that happening.

Very cool, Jake. Yeah, very cool. It was very nice to see all the love and support that Jake got. We appreciate that from the AWL. So Jake appreciates it a lot. Yeah, it was one of those moments. We've been doing this for a long time and we're now faced against the juiced ball podcast era.

But we have, I think through the years, built a community and fans that will ride with us no matter what. And we love you guys so much for that. And it was, it showed through when Jake made his announcement on Wednesday's show. And it's just a reminder how lucky we are to have fans like everyone who listens to the show. Yeah, we appreciate that. And Jake, I talked to him earlier. He really, really appreciates everybody and their kind words. So thank you guys for that. Yes. Okay. What else we got? Oh, the Pistons fired their coach. I think that this makes the job opening in Detroit way more attractive.

Yeah. Because you can go there for a year, get fired, and still get paid for the remaining four or five years that you have on your contract. Yeah. That's a destination I want a part of. How much money has Monte Williams made in the last few years to not coach? A lot. Not as much as what I... Yeah. I mean, I would... I think he's a great coach and I think that somebody's probably going to hire him for a decent job in the near future, but getting paid money not to work is the American dream. And so that's ultimately the best thing that you want to be looking for when you're a head coach, which is why I would want to coach the Pistons. Yeah. And not get fired.

Six years, $78.5 million is the contract he signed last year. Was it six years? I don't know. It was $78.5 million. I don't know how many years it was, but yeah, six years, $78.5 million. I was right. Yeah, so they're like, here's $60 dollars to not work and you can move out of Detroit And that is the best deal ever. Yeah, no longer have to coach a 14-win team. That's so good

The Pistons are I do feel a little bit bad for the Pistons just in the fact that we talked about it when they did the lottery They've had just the worst lottery luck possible Yeah, as they've been the worst team in the NBA for three years running and they keep getting the fifth pick Yeah, they should just let like have a Twitter account or a twitch stream with polls on it. They should just have that run the Detroit Pistons. Oh and make all the personnel decisions all the rotation adjustments. Just have it be done by committee of Pistons fans. I like that a lot. I like that a lot. But yeah, he's living the dream. He's he's able to do Nothing and get paid millions

and millions of dollars. My hair is fucked up right now, damn. Same. Yeah. Oh, no, but mine's way more fucked up. Oh, get the look. We're going to... Scary.

That looks fucking scary. Go back. Hank, you look good. You got to get a little tan on, but that'll happen. But don't get burned. Yeah, what are you going to do about golf? Are you going to wear a hat? Because you can't wear a hat now as a bald man.

I'm wearing hats all summer. But then every time you take it off, you're going to look crazy. You're going to look like Stuart Sink. I hope it just grows back. Yeah, it will. But it's going to be at least a month or two. The eyebrows are a problem.

We'll clean them up. How long till the hair grows back to what it was before you shaved it? Think like two months, Joel. Yeah, two months. OK, yeah, that's not bad at all. Might be a month and a half. His hair grows pretty fast.

Yeah, he is. He's got that testosterone bumping through him. Big summer of Hank. Summer of Hank. Other stories I had. I'm going to get some toupees. Yes. Finally.

Do some experimentation. I love that. Get the golf buzzer that's got the funny spiky hair poking through. Yeah. The like yellow hair, white hair. That'd be good look on you. Did you guys see the NCAA's trying to screw up the tournament again? Yeah. 72 to 76 teams. Oh, we got our special guest. Hank, put on your headphones. We got our special guests. Surprise. Surprise. I told Hank, just trust me. It's a good surprise. He's grunting. He's grunting. He's very upset. I wonder who. All right, let him in. It is here he is. It's coach Joe. Do you see him? Look at his hair. It's looking good.

Thank you. Look like you're ready, man. I'm ready. Anything for the team coach. Yes. Coach wants to say something to you though, Hank. Yeah, Hank. I forgot to tell you this the other day, but I saved the sheet for you on the duck boat with me tomorrow. Let's go on the coach's duck boat. Are you serious? Yeah, he can't wear a hat right now cannot wear That's no problem Whatever you need whatever you need You're the best. I'd love to have you spend a day with us. I appreciate it. That's all be there. Thank you. It's incredible. You're the best coach. Thank you so much for hopping back on to offer

that and take care of our boy. He now the odds for drunk at the parade have changed drastically because Hank is now going to be on a duck boat with you. We'll see if we can get some moonshine for you. Let's go Hank. What a day. What a day. A summer of Hank, right coach? All right, coach. Thank you so much. Thanks coach.

See you tomorrow. The best, the absolute best. And then we had another special guest. Yes, you're going on Coach Missoula's duck boat tomorrow. That's insane. He texted me yesterday. He's like, Hey, I want to, he's like, I think Hank can get there by nine 30 in the morning. I was like, yes. I mean the, the, it's going to be tough to beat the make-a-wish allegations. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. So Hank,

do you have a strategy in terms of how are you going to pace out your drinking? No. Okay. That's a bad strategy. Yeah. You just got to go for it. The other special guest we had was our good friend Max. I wanted to see what his take was on that. I had him join the Zoom as well. Max? Max, are you there? Did you see that?

Did you see Coach Joe Missoula invite Hank on a duck boat for the parade? He's going to be on a duck boat with the coach of the Boston Celtics. Oh my god. For their parade parade is he here max I think max is refusing to go oh come on this is the equivalent of when he takes off his headphones and just sits back he doesn't want to give the people what they want max you know he's not in it right why where is he he just like 10 minutes ago he said I'll be in in five minutes it just hasn't joined I see his name is right there memes oh this is this he controls oh

that's tricky okay join now all right damn that sucks I told him to join all right well we'll get it we'll get our thoughts from Max he might have joined and then and then left what can we do with it thread him up Hank Are you thinking they look too bushy? I think I just look ugly, but that is what it is No, you're just not used to it It's fine. It's all about. I mean, I don't really give a fuck. I'm gonna be on the duck Missoula I really just don't I mean that means you're gonna be on the duck boat with the trophy at some point Yeah, touch the and then you also are gonna like the duck boat goes to the like wherever they're gonna give speeches, you're gonna be standing on the stage and then Hank, you're like, I'm gonna meet everyone. You're gonna. You're

not probably like the coaches that yeah. And then Hank, you're also gonna like if you play your cards right, you'll just go with the team wherever they go after the break yeah if you're a cool hang yeah if you're a cool hang do you have any like any thoughts in the off chance that this is crazy Hank go say a word on the microphone this is crazy no I'm not gonna do that I'm gonna be respectful I mean I'm coaches guess I can't I gotta be somewhat somewhat in control but good luck who knows I mean this might be the biggest day your life Yeah, I mean it'll be up there though the first first time we got to party with the Patriots was was incredible, but this

Could be better sounds like it probably will be this is every kid I mean, I can't you're gonna be I actually can't believe that you're gonna be they're gonna be cheering for you In a parade in a championship God damn it this guy bro. Thanks. He's on the team Yeah, I should have told I should have told Joe that he we had an interview on Friday. He can't make it. Oh Dad I'll be fucked but Hank you're gonna be great. You're gonna be great on this boat I love Hank too much that when he said it I was actually pumped for him

Yeah, well there was some confused there was a lot of confusion the past two days. Yeah, cuz I I Someone had Dave like I think sent the wrong text to someone was like he's all set with Missoula. Mm-hmm. And then People were asking like oh your own duck. I was like I haven't heard anything. So no, yeah Yeah, and I also I had Caitlin Walker book a couple of flights to make sure you get there at nine 30 and she accidentally sent it to your email. Well, I had already booked the flight. Yeah, I know. But I didn't know if you had flights that got there at nine 30. Yeah, no, I had, I had booked a flight for nine 45 tonight in case we lost a dozen for six a.m. I double booked those. Yeah, I booked those again. I didn't know because

I didn't want to tell you. Yeah. Because Missououla was like let me surprise him. I was like, absolutely. Well, yeah, you're gonna be I'm very jealous of you Hey, I think that this is gonna be the best day ever you're gonna it's gonna be surreal the entire you might hold thing I sure oh my life is oh here we go. We got the extra special guest. All right, Max Here he is he's getting let in It's too bad. He missed that but we can explain it to him Max are you there? Max is on such a sick vacation to Max Hey, hey, hey Max, where are you all that? Where are you?

I'm having a sick vacation right now. Yeah, what are you doing? Best vacation ever. Driving across the country and moving. That's how's, Oh, that sounds fun. Well, you'll usually have to drive one way. Yeah. Nope. Got to drive both ways. You just tried my ass off. It's 98 degrees in New York city right now. I smell like shit. I smell like absolute shit right now. I'm taking this from, my car. Hank Hanks looks like an alien Well, thank you. At least someone's honest, uh max what you missed cuz you were in the middle of moving in the middle of summer And you're what you're driving all the way from New York to Chicago this weekend

No, I just drove from wait, yes Saturday, okay Okay. Saturday. So will you be, what are you doing tomorrow? Tomorrow? I am. I'm doing nothing tomorrow. Oh, perfect. So we need, yeah, we need you for something. So we need you to get clips for the social account for the part of my take social account because, um, Joe Missoula just joined the show and he asked Hank to be his personal guest on his duck boat. Wait, what? The parade. Hank's going to be on Missoula's duck boat.

On the boat with coach. What am I supposed to do? You have to watch every second of it and get every clip of Hank. There's going to be some great clips of Hank tomorrow. So I just, wait a minute. Something just happened here. What happened? Can you hear me?

Yeah, we can hear you. Is it worse now? No, you're fine. OK. It's never good. Wait, so I just have to watch Hank on the duck boat. Yeah. You got to make sure you get every clip. What does that even mean? He's going to be, he's doing his own clip. No, no, no, no, no, no media footage. Yeah. The TV footage, like he'll probably be on

sports center. He'll probably, you know, all of that stuff. I'm going to be all over that. For sure. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So just make sure you're there. I was going to be watching anyway. Yeah. And any of the clips that people post on social where they tag you in it. Yeah, if you see any good, if you're at the parade and you get a good video of Hank tag Philly maze, make sure that he can see it and then he can repost it from all our socials. Yep. Yeah. He's really excited. That sounds great. Yeah. Yeah. So you, are you pumped for Hank? Uh, no, yeah, I'm really, I mean, I'm really happy that

he looks like shit. Like he looks terrible, but this is the last time we'll see Hank without a hat for the next four months. Yeah. But he, well, no, Missoula said he can't wear a hat tomorrow. Okay. So tomorrow will be the last time that we see Hank without a hat for the next four months. Well, yeah. And you'll see a lot of them tomorrow because you're going to get all the clips, right? It's a good trade, though, you know? Yeah, yes. I don't even know what that means. Get all the clips. It means you have to just watch the entire parade.

We never Hank does something. I'm going to watch the whole parade. I'm definitely I'm going to do that 100 percent. I'm really excited for it. And I'm definitely going to do that because Hank's going to be doing a lot of awesome stuff. Right. That winners do chugging beers and he's gonna be so happy So we want to make sure that people see that for visibility Yeah, no, I'm excited to do that, okay, I'm happy for him. Yeah, it sounds like you are

You know, you'll maybe get invited to a parade someday Almost almost dead when? Well, the Eagles lost in the Super Bowl. Do you remember that? Yeah. Were you going to get invited to the parade? Not the not parade, but was Sirianni going to have you next to him? No, sir. Sirianni probably doesn't like me. Yeah. Big Dom does though. Big Dom. Yeah. Big Dom. Maybe Big Dom. Big Dom. Big Dom is best. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, listen, that's the

thing. Like Hank just won a title and he's going to be on a duck boat with the coach of the Boston Celtics, but at least you text with Big Dom. Wait, so you're going to be on the boat? Yes. This is why we need all the clips, Max. Because it's such a big deal. He's Missoula's personal guest. He's literally on a duck boat with

Missoula I Thought you were on a DraftKings boat. No, he's on his on Who is boat the boat with the coach of the Boston Celtic that just won an NBA championship With multiple former Sixers players the trophy will probably be in Hank's hands as he raises it and people cheer at some point tomorrow and you have to be there to get the clip. Setting in, it's slowly setting in. It's slowly setting in. There's going to be so many clips of Hank with Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum. Yes, on, yes. Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum. Yes on yes Hank might even give a speech so you need to be diligent

I'm gonna I'm gonna do a really I'm gonna do an excellent job of this It's gonna be the best work I've ever done for this show. Okay, good. Good. Good. All right. That's great All right. Hey, uh, there's zero there's zero percent chance. I do this. Uh, well We can't need you to We really need you to. Big for socials. Yeah. This is, I mean, bonuses come into play when it comes to like socials. This Friday, right?

Is Friday, is Friday a weekday or a weekend? Hank, Hank, is Friday a weekday or a weekend? It's a weekday. It's a workday. Yeah, it's a workday. You gotta be working. He's been speaking about that. Yeah.

True, true. It's a good point. Yeah, so Yeah, so I'm gonna be all over it. All right, we don't want to put you on a pip I'm gonna be all over it. Okay, great. Good good I'll figure that it'd be a real shame if we had to put you on a pip just cuz Hank got to be on The duck boat with Joe Mazula Max at least well, that was a nice clip of that was a nice camera cut by means right there That was really good stuff. Yeah. Yeah, there was a second there when it all sunk in for Max where I actually thought you were crying For what I mean it's whatever I already I didn't know he was gonna be on the duck boat I knew he was no he's on this

Yeah, well good luck with the move max That sounds yeah I knew he was gonna be on A. No, he's on this. Yeah. Well, good luck with the move, Max. That sounds fun, too. Yeah, I'm jealous. Honestly, as fun as my day sounds, I'd rather kind of be. If I could switch with you, I would. Yeah, moving, driving. Yeah. All right. Thanks, Max. All right. See you, Max. Have a good one. Yeah. Great. So bad. The. His brain, he's in, he's in the middle of moving.

So his brain is not working correctly. Yeah. And it's slowly dawning on him what we're asking him to do. And then having it set in and you're on the boat. It's the bus meme where one guy on one side is Max and he's in the dark gloomy side of the bus He's driving across the country in 95 degree weather sweating moving and then the other side It's literally Hank Lockwood on the champions duck boat. Yeah I

Don't even know what to say. Okay, so Hank maybe one summer of Hank one thing Maybe you can investigate for me boots on the ground during the parade. How do duck boats work? How can you drive a car into the river and then it just works as a boat? I'll investigate. I mean it's just put wheels on a boat basically and you just pull the wheels up. Yeah, but what about the engine? Doesn't the engine get in the water?

Put the engine up high. Okay. You can have engines in boats. Yeah, but the, yeah. So this is all things I need to know about the duck. There's engines in boats. I'm very curious about how it works. Can't aren't there like some cars that can do that?

Yep, planes. Some planes. Some land on the water. Yeah. Yeah. Get us a full detail. I want to know more about the duck boat experience. All right.

We were talking about the NCAA tournament. The NCAA is trying to move the tournament to an expanded field. This is going to suck. Yeah. So 72 to 76 team tournament plans is what they're trying to do. Yeah. By eight, they're planning on changing it by four or eight teams. 64 teams is perfect. It's well, I like the 68. We had this debate, but the sick.

Yeah, they just don't need to, but the sick. Yeah, they just don't need to add more bubble teams. Yeah, we don't need that at all. Also, you know, what's good for the tournament is having debates about bubble. Correct. Yes, we were pissed off. There were some teams that got left out last year. So you never remember them. I remember St. John's. I remember St. Just because, you know, yeah, but I feel like in a weird sick way having those teams when they do a bad job with like one or two teams, it's good for the overall brand because more people are talking about the tournament.

Yeah. So now if they do this perfectly, then it gets less buzzed. And I don't like the idea of 72, 78. I like 64. I agree. Slash 68. The only thing that I would be okay with is the idea that we have,

that if you have a certain allotment of bubble teams, if you want to expand to eight teams, all eight of those teams should have to play right after the brackets announced. Yeah, I like that. Maybe they do like almost a second conference tournament, except it's just for bubble teams. That's the part that's crazy. The bubble conference. Everyone has a chance to get in.

Yes. It's the perfect system. Yeah, you're conference. Everyone has a chance to get in. Yes. It's the perfect system. Yeah, you're like giving an extra conference tournament to teams. Yeah. All right, do we have anything else before we get to our interviews? Are the Yankees and the Orioles done beaming each other?

I don't know. Pegging each other? I don't know. I think they're pegging each other pretty hard right now. They are doing a lot of pegging. Yeah, I don't know if they're done with that or not, but it seems like Aaron judge is fine So the fact that he's back in the lineup, maybe the pegging will stop. Yeah, I'd agree with that. Oh, I did have one more thing This is uh, this is to bring it maybe Hank down a second

Well, what was your fire fest was it anything that happened on Twitter? Okay, so I don't know if you saw this PFT, but Hank and the boys Oh yeah, this was my Fire Fest. It was? Okay, we'll save it. We'll save it. Alright. I mean, it's not even a Fire Fest. No, but it's a very funny thing that you went mega viral without realizing it this week. Yes. Okay. I did see that. Yeah yeah, we'll talk about it. We'll talk about the fire fest. Okay, quick 60 second rant. We finished recording this afternoon because PFT was in the dozen finale. I got my car to leave

the office and I see that the Bulls have traded Alex Crusoe for Josh Giddy. I am mad. I continue to be mad at this franchise. They **** suck. Jerry Reinsdorf. All he wants to do is win 40 games. Let's throw aside. Stella's just gonna bark in my back room. Stella. Everyone gets Stella in this too. Stop. It's giving day. Everyone should be giving to pause. Hold on, keep this in, but I'm gonna kick her out. Come on, go, go. Okay, Giddy, Caruso, I love Caruso.

He's a friend of the show, I love Caruso. This comes down to you traded a winning player in Alex Caruso for a losing player in Josh Giddy, who I'll admit, Josh Giddy is young. That's not a joke, but you get it. Josh Giddy is young, could develop into something bigger. Here's the problem though. Here's the fucking problem.

Oklahoma City has a thousand draft picks. The Chicago Bulls have no direction. They want, they're happy to win 40 games every single year and flirt with going to the playoffs, never actually be competitive, never actually the playoffs, never actually be competitive, never actually spend money, never actually be a winning franchise. They just want to fill the entire United Center through the end of the season. So we were like, Oh, maybe we're going to go to the playoffs. Oh, we'll get bounced in the fucking playing game every

single year. How you do a trade with Oklahoma City and don't get at least one draft pick is fucking insane. I swear to God, Oklahoma City, you can get a contact draft pick, a contact high from them. You just stand next to them for long enough and they'll just give you a draft pick because they have so many fucking draft picks and they can't use all the draft picks. And now we got no draft pick when we could have traded Caruso who I didn't wanna trade, but could have traded him at the trade deadline

for draft picks. So you basically got a player that's not gonna make you better. It got you younger, but it's not gonna make you better. And there's also still no future in terms of, oh, maybe we could rebuild or tank or something. They're gonna win 40 games, maybe 41 without Alex Caruso. And Alex Caruso is gonna be awesome for the Thunder.

The Thunder are going to be fucking awesome defensively. They're going to win 40 games, 41 games, and then be like, damn, I wish things had gone different. Maybe next year, if we roll back the same thing, it will happen again. Oh, let's trade a draft pick in this. That's what the Bulls will do. That's what the Bulls will do. There's two things.

One, they're probably going to trade Zach Levine with a draft pick to get rid of them. And then they're also going to probably trade in a historically bad draft. They're probably going to trade up. They're probably going to trade draft pick and trade up to like the seventh pick from 11. I fucking hate this franchise. They drive me insane. Jerry Reinsdorf, sell the goddamn team.

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It is Derek White. He's back with us. And if you hear that buzzing in the background, Hank is getting his head, he's starting the process of getting his head shaved. Let's start there. Cause we want to talk about the game and the championship and everything. But, uh, did you see the clip of coach Missoula telling Hank that he has to have his head shaved by Friday afternoon? Yeah. Yeah. I saw it. I know when Joe put the pressure on him is going to get done. Yeah. Yeah. He had no choice. Uh, I got a question for you just about anatomy, really. Do you consider is the face part of your head?

It's got to connect. So when Hank said that he was going to shave his head, does that mean the beard too? Oh, the beard. Look at you, still in the fucking beard. Derek has a beard. He's got to keep the beard. I got the beard still. I'll let you keep it.

Yeah. All right. So Derek, do you have any tips for Hank once he goes full? Derrick has a beard. I got the beard still. I'll let you keep it. Yeah. All right. So Derrick, do you have any tips for Hank once he goes full? Cause Hank, have you ever been fully shaven-bicked? No. Never. He's never. So is there anything that you need to tell him tips wise? Um, probably put some sunscreen on your head. You don't want to get a sunburn on the head. That or a... I don't know. Enjoy. Enjoy the process. Yeah. Does he have to put like moisturizer, lotion, anything like that? Any special care?

Yeah. Yeah. Moisturizing, lotion, you know, you don't want to be looking at you on top of your head. Yeah. We can't have that as a podcast. But that's what it looks. Yeah. Yeah.

He's going to look good. So Derek, you look good. I just saw that big smile. You got your tooth fixed? Yeah, I got it fixed this morning. Okay. Cause we were wondering if you were gonna have that, that, uh, that chip tooth still for the parade. Um, cause during the game, when it happened, uh, and you came out, you had that big smile on your face. It looked like you were kind of enjoying it. You were like, yeah, you know what? There's a battle scar that I've got right now. Uh, I mean, at first I thought like my whole tooth was gone and I'm like, my tooth is gone. I'm like, Oh no, it's just chipped. I'm like, Oh, let's go. Yeah. And then like, there was

like a couple of seconds I was like trying to hide it. And then I'm like, the moment I opened my mouth, like everybody's going to see it. So I just got to embrace it. Yeah. Yeah. It becomes an iconic photo. Now this is maybe a really dumb thought that I had in the moment, but you win a title. It's the peak of your professional career. You probably can't be happier. Was there a small part of you that was like, God damn it, I wish my tooth wasn't fucked up for this? Yeah. After like everybody's doing pictures or anything, I didn't smile at one picture. I just had my mouth closed like the entire time. And like, uh, for that moment I was

like, yeah, I wish my tooth wasn't chipped right now. Yeah. How was, uh, how was Miami with the guys? It was a lot of fun. Um, it was just great to go out there and enjoy the heat and, oh, we got a lot of fun. Yeah. What was the environment like in the locker room afterwards? Who was, who was celebrating the hardest? I don't know. It was just a zoo of people coming in and out.

And I mean, Brizzy is Brizzy's birthday today. Happy birthday. And he was, he was celebrating pretty hard. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it was incredible season you guys accomplished so much and you, I mean, you especially played out of your mind. Uh, it felt like for the entire entirety of the playoffs, did you, did you feel like this was like the best basketball you've ever played personally where like everything seems to be clicking at the right time with

this team? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I felt confident going into the playoffs and, um, I was excited to, to play playoff basketball in that there's nothing like it. And so, um, I felt confident going into the playoffs and I was excited to play playoff basketball in that there's nothing like it. And so I felt confident going in and just wanted to just do whatever it takes to help us win. And I mean, it was a special ride. Yeah, is there I would imagine not because you just want a championship. But do you think there'll be a moment in the next couple of days where you're like, man, I wish we had a game? championship. But do you think there'll be a moment in the next couple of days where you're like, man, I wish we had a game. Yeah, no. Okay. All right. All right. So that was a dumb thought. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. You guys were so good and you were dominating everyone that like it had to have been so much fun these last two months. Yeah, no. But like being around the guys and like just the team that we had, it was just a lot of fun. So I won't miss that part of it, but I'm really gonna enjoy this championship.

Can't wait for the parade tomorrow. It's gonna be crazy. He's gonna hopefully not get too late. No, you gotta get too late. Get too late. Hank will make sure that it gets late. Yeah, get all the way lit. Come on.

You have to, you never know. Like you guys feel like you're a good enough team where you might get back here again, but you never know. know so you have to celebrate like it's your last time. Yeah Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, definitely gonna enjoy this one Yeah, so during the finals you guys are obviously already such an accomplished team with such good players I don't know how much like a pregame speech matters or if coaches even bother giving Pregame pump up speeches and delivering certain messages or if it's just like you know your assignment we've worked on this go out there and let's execute but did did coach give a pump up speech before the last game.

We had Nick slavery come in and talk to us. And he's talked to us throughout the whole year. Super bad ass. Green Beretutee, like went to war. He's crazy story. Um, but he came in and talked to us and was just like, I'm looking at some soldiers right here and like, he kind of just got us go all in the right mindset. And, um, we knew we were, we were going to win at that time. Yeah. You could feel it. Yeah. What, uh, what was the vibe like on Friday night after you guys lost in Dallas? Was there any wavering, any like, uh, that was pretty crazy. We, we got our asses kicked. You're like, you listen, one game to one game. We're the better team. Yeah. Um, I mean, honestly, I think like before the game, our team's like, just like, you're

like, Oh, it's almost over. Like you can like just see it. And then like, you just get your ass kicked and you're just like, what just happened? But, um, I mean, I was like, oh, it's almost over. Like you can like just see it. And then like, you just get your ass kicked and you're just like, what just happened? But, um, I mean, I was like, Hey, we're still up three one. Like I'm, I got nothing to worry about. I'm never like going and sucking my, my family and friends. I was like, come on, let's, let's have some more energy here. Like it's still three one. Like we get to go back home and try to close it at home. Like let's do it. Yeah. I wonder like,, is that a human nature loss in a way in game four where it's like,

you all say the right things, you think the right things, but it's pretty, I would imagine it's impossible not to have a creep in the back of your head where you're like, we could win a title tonight, and having like the planning in the back of your head and then having that reset probably helped. Yeah, yeah, I mean, like especially because you, I mean, outside of drew, we'd had

one before and so like, you just kind of like, you kind of look ahead. Yeah. It's still a really good team. And that's what happens when you don't, you're not really focused on what we needed to focus on. Yeah. Are you, are you aware of how good Peyton Pritchard is with 0.5 seconds left in every quarter? Yeah, he's unreal. That's like my one thing I missed about because he stopped in for me and I walked straight to the back of my T-fix and I just hear, I'm in the tunnel,

I just hear the guard interrupt and I'm like, what happened? And someone's just like, Peyton. I'm like, oh, he's unbelievable. Yeah, is there a small part of you that's like, man, how come he's better than me in the last just second of every quarter? What is it about that?

Is it? I know it's something that you guys practice, right? It's like this is Peyton time. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, like he hit that one earlier in the finals, but he's been doing it all season long and like everybody knows like into the quarter, like you get the ball to Peyton, he's just gonna make the shot obviously.

And like it's unbelievable. Yeah. There's two things he's really good at, making those shots and also shooting free throws blindfolded. Yeah. Tough loss for us still to this day. Yeah, yeah, we- Yeah, that was probably the biggest loss

the Celtics took all year. Yeah, we're actually NBA champions. Yeah. Well done, congrats, you guys as well. I do have a little bit of a bone to pick with you though, because when you came in in February and I told the story how I was in an elevator with you in October, it was October and I I awkwardly was like, oh yeah, our producers a big Celtics fan. You're like, I know who

you guys are. Why didn't you tell me then that you guys were going to win it all? That would have been nice. A little heads up. Hey, I had a good feeling then too. Okay, you should have shared it with me. Then, I had a good feeling then too. OK, you should have shared it with me. Then I got a really good feeling. I feel like you had a good feeling about us too. Yeah, I mean, I thought you guys were the best team. I did think the Nuggets were the only team that would have given you guys a series, but I still, even if the Nuggets had made it, I think you guys would have won

because you proved it out all year long. So it was pretty like there's very few titles that you can really look at. And I know that people will say all the East is easy, but losing three games in the playoffs is like that says it all right there. It's crazy. You guys went what? 10 games in a row that you won. Like that, that doesn't happen. Yeah. Yeah. I know. It's been a fun year. Like we never really had like a, a drought. Like we were just consistently, uh, that know it's been a fun year like we never really had like a drought like we were just consistently

That team and I mean just to be able to win a championship is is unreal Yeah Do you think about that? Like comparing yourself and in this title run that you went on to other title teams in the past and just how you would stack Up to other teams. Are you just focused on enjoying how good it feels to win a championship? Yeah, I mean you think about it you're like, I mean, we're one of the all time teams. Obviously I'm biased. And so I'm gonna say, but just you think about it, like you are just enjoying it. Like it didn't matter. We lost three games, like as long as we get 16 wins in the playoffs, like

it doesn't matter. And so, but I do think like we are one of those teams and It's a special run. Yeah, one of the best ones ever. So there was a report that came out I think it was last weekend. I don't know if it's been updated yet, but apparently you're under consideration for the Olympic team To fill in for Kawhi if he can't make it Is that something that you're thinking about and is that that any, like, has that progressed at all since last weekend? That's funny because when that report came out, like that was when I found out about it too. So I was just like, oh really? Like, I haven't heard anything. So, but if I do get an opportunity to play for sure. Yeah. Yeah. By the way, JJ Reddick was just named Lakers head coach. Okay official

Shout out JJ. Shout out your fan I'm a fan of JJ. Yeah, he's got it. It's good for it's let's just say this right now It's good for the podcast community. That means that we could probably get a job as a head coach Representation matters. Right. Yes. I can now see myself in a job as a head coach in the NBA There we go. Yeah Yeah, but you can do the NFL. Yeah, I don't I don't think I could do I could do the I could do the NBA You just like hey guys hustle rebound more just roll the ball out there What just make some threes yeah, just hey, it's a make or miss league gotta make your shots

That's all I say before before every game to the guys. Here's how I would coach the Lakers. I'd say, all right, LeBron, we're drafting your son, so you're happy now. Problem solved. Also, Anthony Davis, you're not actually here to get back in the game. Right. That's what I would say to him. And then, boom, we just upped our efficiency by like 30% right there.

I don't know if you're getting the job. Probably not. Probably not. They don't want me. I got a question that's, I don't want if you're getting the job. Probably not. Probably not. They don't want me. All right. I got a question that's, uh, I don't want to jinx anything, but I just another human nature question. You're up for an extension and a lot of money. Have you let yourself think about it at all? I mean, it's pretty cool and you deserve it. And I'm very happy for you, but has your mind wandered a little? I know there's negotiations that have to happen. I'm sure you want to stay in Boston, but have you at least like had that moment where like, I've been playing so good that this is now on the table for me.

Yeah. Um, I mean, I, I thought about signing an extension, uh, before the season started and, um, and when that like deadline passed, I hadn't really thought about it too much. But, um, I know my agent and, uh, the team are going to talk and I mean, I'd love to stay in bosses for as long as I can. And, um, I'm hopeful everything's going to work out exciting. And, uh, but yeah, at the moment I'm just going to join a championship and we'll worry about that later. Yeah. Oh, I have a, I heard your kids screaming in the background. I have a dad to dad question. Um, have you had that moment where you had to get back into dad life and take care, clean a diaper or something, and you're like,

God damn it, I'm a world champion. Yeah, this morning I had a change of a poopy diaper. I'm like, is there nobody else around here that can scream? I still got to do this? Yeah, yeah. I would definitely, if I won a championship, be like, I at least get a week. Yeah. Let me get someone to help me out here. I just want to ring. Yeah, don't take the trash out anymore. It's like 50 cent tweet like fuck this. I'm too famous. Yeah, that's probably good to bring you back to bring you back to like level like oh yeah, I'm still a dad. Yeah, the kids change your perspective and like when you need it the most that that's what they're here for. Yeah. Wait, how old is your oldest? Two. Okay. So you got to win some more so

they can have, you know, clearer memories. That's, that's your motivation now. Yeah. I know. And then my youngest is seven months and he wasn't at the game. So I'm like, now I got to get another one for you. Dax. Yeah. Yeah. Dax a fair weather fan. I don't know. Like he was, he's not that picture Did you make sure to get a picture with your oldest though like right after the game on the court with the confetti? Yeah, yeah, like I got a bunch of pictures and like he was there when I was doing the interview and everything So that's me pretty cool to look back on that's awesome. That's really cool. I got some advice for you during the parade So there's always it feels like there's always one player on a team right right after the winning championship. They might be in the middle of a contract negotiation like

you are. They get too lit as you would say, and then they get up to the podium and then they just say something that their agent wants to kill them for. It's like, I don't care. I'm sticking around, whatever. Just don't say that. Just don't say that. Just be like, I love Boston. Just stick with like, I love Boston. Be like, I'll take a pay cut. Let's run it back. Because then that sets you up in a weird space and your agent will actually want you dead at that point. Yeah, I just told my boy that like earlier today, I was like, every parade, there's always one lie, at least going out there. I'm not trying to be a part of that. Yeah, you could also do, you could do a little bait and switch where you're like like Steve Kerr did it in the I think

It was 97 you should be like listen I know that everyone was debating who should be the finals MVP and I'm okay that I didn't win it even though I should have something like that So everyone's like all he's gonna talk about Jalen and Jason and get him they get him like that Yeah, that's an all time, I don't know, I gotta think of something pretty creative to top that. But yeah, yeah, that one. I'll start talking now.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So with the injury that happened to KP, we were talking about it before game, was it game four, game three? We didn't think that he was gonna be able to play on that at all. And he's still out there running around. Did you get a sense for how bad that he was going to be able to play on that at all. And he's still out there running around. Did you get a sense for how bad that injury was?

And was it something that you were surprised that he came back from? Yeah, I still don't know really what it was and what it is. And so you could just tell he like really wanted to play in like a game three, like he was out, but like game four, like they said he was active. But like, I'm like, I don't know how well you're moving right now in the street around. But at KP, you never really know, like before game one,

he wasn't moving too great. And then he has a crazy first half. And I'm like, I was like, he's Christoph Brazinga. It's like, he'll figure it out. So any chance he can get on the court and he'll help us out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Have you talked to

Blake Griffin at all? I really wish he had taken up Joe Mazzullo's offer and come back just so he'd have a ring. But have you have you spoken with him since you won? No, I haven't spoken with him yet, but I know that would be great that Blake was on our team and he could have a ring for his great career. But I know he's good. What I said, I told you guys he should have a ring. You said, no, I think he should have a ring. Yeah. I think Blake deserves a lifetime achievement ring. Yeah. Hey, I'm sure that we can send him one. Yeah. Let's make it happen. Blake a ring. So right now, Hank is still waiting to get

his hair shaved. Right now he just looks good. I think he just got a good haircut and a beard trim and then he sent the barber on his way and said, okay, your service is no longer required. Yeah, he looks awesome right now. This is the last year you're going to look awesome. I'm excited. I'm excited for tomorrow. Derek, was there a moment when you went full shave where you were like, oh shit, this was a mistake? Because Hank's going to have that for a couple days. I mean, yeah, you guys, I didn't really have a choice.

Well, no. Coach Missoula told you that it wouldn't you have to get your head. Yeah. Yeah. But was there a moment, Derek, where you're like, oh man, this was a mistake? Oh, I mean, just at first, like moment when like they just go straight over, they like, I was like, damn, this is really happening. But I mean, I'm cool with this. So I think Hanks is going to be great with us. Yeah, good. Good showers are going to be so easy. Now, Hank, you don't you don't have to worry about shampoo conditioner. You just get in, rinse, get out through. Yeah, you might also

find like a whole community of women that love bald men for a whole summer summer Hank back on. Mike, it hired as the D coordinator for Pete Carroll. Yeah, all these things could happen. It could happen. Might help you dunk too. Oh! Streamline, less weight.

He's making progress. I don't know if you saw, but he tried to dunk in front of Danny Ainge and he's making progress. There we go. There we go. We're gonna get it. Not really, but I'm trying to keep positive for him because he's having a big week. We're gonna get there. Yeah. We're going to get there. Yeah.

We're holding him back. Yeah. I believe in Hank. I think that he's made a lot of progress in the last couple months. What, like six inches? Four inches of vertical? Six.

Six inches. So you're tracking to be able to dunk. Yeah. Speaking of the executive side of things, did Brad Stevens, did he show up in the locker room? Was he getting torn up after the game? Yeah, he was there at the beginning. And then, like, we hadn't made yet. I didn't see him again, so.

He might have snuck out the back somewhere. I think if there's one person I want to see absolutely hammered at the parade, it's Brad Stevens. Yeah, that would be fun. That would be very funny. Yeah. That would be fun. So you'd probably get a cop would probably come up and ID him.

Yeah. Be like, sir, are you over 21? Okay, all right, proceed. How does it work with Brad Stevens? A cop would probably come up and ID him. Yeah. Be like, sir, are you over 21? OK. All right. Proceed. Is it, how does it work with Brad Stevens? Because he obviously, like, picked you out and traded for you and saw in you, like, what you've become as a player.

Is there a special bond with him where he's like, you know, obviously there's other guys who believed in you, but he specifically was like, Derek White is a perfect piece for this team. Yeah. Yeah. It's been amazing. I mean, he's a great basketball mind. Like you could tell just when he was a coach, but now he's doing what he's doing now. Like everything he, he sees and everything he like brings to our team has been unbelievable. So he's always supported me. He's always believed in me.

Even from like my first year in Boston, when I played that great, he always believed in me and saw something in me. So I'm always thankful for that. Yeah. Yeah. All right, well, Derek, this has been awesome. We really appreciate you taking some time, especially

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I was like, I mean, I could see that. So, yeah, probably I'll probably be up there. I mean, O'Shea, just his birthday so I'm gonna go back with him. Yep. Svee and I can see Sam Houser as a sneaky drunk is one Sam Houser that's my dark horse. Yeah Wisconsin guy yeah he can drink. Yeah. JT probably too.

Yeah. JT yeah uh KP I mean like Eastern Europeans can really put him back. Yeah. They got a high tolerance so they're probably, he's not going to be the drunkest, but he might have the most to drink. Yeah. Yeah. This will look normal. Yeah. He's the most likely for me to like crowd surf or like, you know, a clip of someone throwing him a beer or something like that. Yeah. Gronk style smash it on the boat. Yeah. KP and Boston are like, smashing on the boat. Yeah. K.P. and Boston are like it's cracking. It's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, Derek, have an awesome time at the parade. I'll send you a picture

when Hank goes full balled. Just no spoilers because we're going to we're going to post this all tomorrow's show. He's going to get he's going to shave to the beginning of the show. So people can watch this. And yeah, thanks for everything, man. Appreciate you being a fan of the show. Um, so people can watch this and uh, yeah, thanks for everything, man. Appreciate you, uh, being a fan of the show and congrats again. It's, it was an awesome season and uh, hopefully you get really paid and maybe you remember your friends. A part of my take when you do get paid. I got you guys. Oh, that's legally binding. That was legally binding. That's the first line of parade Legally blind binding. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Thanks, Derek. See you man

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If you want to discover more, just visit Facebook. And now here's Adam Thielen. Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest. It is Carolina Panthers wide receiver Adam Thielen, and we're also Adam Thielen is about to get ready to play in the American Century celebrity golf championship in Tahoe, which we will be there. So let's start there. We got some football questions, but let's start with golf. What are we thinking going into this? Are we thinking you're going to win it? Oh, I like, I'd love a guarantee right now, but how is your golf game shaping up for this tournament?

Well, unfortunately I can't, uh, I can't give a guarantee. Uh, you know, three young kids at the house makes a little difficult to give a guarantee, but I will say I'm never going into that tournament thing. I'm not going to try to go win it. So, uh, I'm going to do everything I can. I got to simulate the house. I'm grinding away on that. I'm never going into that tournament thing. I'm not going to try to go win it. So I'm going to do everything I can. I got to simulate the house. I'm grinding away on that. I'm getting seeking out a few rounds here and there to get prepared, but it's the best week of the year. I'm glad you guys are going.

It's something special there in Tahoe. Not only is Tahoe special obviously, but then you add in the golf tournament. American Century does a great job just hosting a phenomenal event event not only for the celebrities But for the fans, I mean, there's really no other fan experience like it. Yeah, we're so pumped This is one of those events that we've like circled for many years being like why aren't we out there? And finally, we're gonna go out there. So we're pumped. What's your what's your handicap right now? So I'm a one right now

I started the season as a zero because I usually grind it down to about a zero going into Tahoe. And then I play maybe one round after time. And then it's like, boom, training camp. Don't touch a glove for six months. And then I'm like, now I'm like grinding just to kind of bring it back to a zero. But, uh, but yeah, I'm a one right now. So you actually could win this thing. Who would you say is your biggest competition? So there's like 10 guys probably, maybe a few more that have legitimately have a chance to win it. Um, you know, I think every year it's pretty much Marty fish. Um, you know, Mark Mulder, small, um, you know, Pavel ski. I mean, there's, there's, there's more guys, but those are the guys that kind of usually win it or are right there at the end. I mean,

obviously Curry won it last year. He won't be there but But he's always a guy that's that's in the top 10 So like I said, there's about 10 to 15 guys or females, you know, Annika that really have a legitimate chance to win it So it all depends on how hard was starting to get and then hop consistent you can play Do you have any holes in one? I have zero wild I've got a lot of golf in my life. Started when I was like three years old, zero home ones. My dad who played started playing he's like fifty five years old

and really didn't start playing until I retired last year, like a lot of golf. He already has like three home ones. So I'm like, what is going on? And he probably averages one hundred hundred

around. So it's crazy how that works out. But yeah, hopefully, hopefully I'll get it on 17 in Tahoe this year and then I'll sprint in there. I'll dive into the, into the lake, try to catch football in the process. And, and then I probably won't finish. Do you think maybe your dad's lying to you? Maybe he's just jealous that you're so good at golf. So he just tells you that he gets all these holes once. So that way just, it pisses you off.

Well, that's a good point because every time I play with him, he thinks like, you know, I, my probably the strongest part of my game is I hit the ball a long way. I always had since I was little, even when I was 150 pounds soaking wet in high school. Um, and so my dad, whenever he plays with me, he thinks that he's gonna like try to like hit it as far as me. And so he's like basically falling over when he's swinging. Uh, so yeah, maybe that's a good point. Maybe he's just like, all right, well, this is what I got on you. So I'm going to, I'm going to

make it up and say that I got this whole one just so I have something on. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Dumb question. It might not be a dumb question, but, um, last year wasn't the best for the Panthers. Uh, how much did it suck? Yeah, it was brutal. It was brutal. Um, you know, losing in any, you know, sport obviously or anything you do, losing is never fun, especially when you're a competitor. And especially when you put so much into it, right? Like we got these OTAs, we got all the awesome training that we do on our own. You know, you go through training camp and like the grind is only worth it if you like

have like a good year, you know? And so it was definitely tough. There was a lot of adversity throughout it. A lot of kind of stuff that people never know that happened. It's just that you can't make up. But at the end of the day, I believe, not only was it probably the best thing that ever happened to me, just learning how to deal with adversity,

learning how to be a leader through major storms. But I think for Bryce, a lot of the young guys, maybe some of think for, you know, Bryce, uh, a lot of the young guys, maybe some of the coaches that we still have around, like all of our defense staff, I think it's probably the best thing that ever happened to us. Uh, cause it really teaches you a lot when you, when you're winning and everything is great, you're not really learning a lot. You know, the, the most, you know, I, I think the most, you know, uh, you know, things that you get better at the most are when things aren't good.

Yeah. So we were able to get a lot of that last year. Yeah. And obviously, it's kind of a jokey question. But I'm more like, because we're obviously sports fans. We're watching all the games. And when you have a team that's losing, the jokes get made. But I would imagine just having to show up and do your job

every day has to take a little bit of a mental toll in that season where it's like we're doing the process and then we're not getting the results. Yeah, 100 percent. And then on top of that, like, you know, you to be a good leader, it's not it's not what you're doing when you're winning. It's what you're doing when you're losing. So every day it was kind of like a little bit of a pep talk as I'm going to the facility, like, hey, like, I don't really care what's going on in this season. I got to put my, put a smile on my face. I got to have energy. I got to have excitement to go to work every day. And there was a lot of blessings in it, you know, through this year, um, for, for my family outside of football and, and, and even in the building, just like the, the joy that I had coming to work every day was still there.

You know, like obviously it's like, like we've already talked about it's stunk losing. It's, it's the worst as a team, you know, as coming together, it's the worst, but there was, there was a lot of joy for me. I realized it made me realize how much I love the game, how much I love being around people, how much I love sacrificing things to try to add success. Um, so there's a lot of blessings. Yeah. Is there something that you're working on this off season? Cause NBA players are always like, you know, I'm going to add this element, this wrinkle to my game. You've been in the league for a long time.

You're pretty good route runner already, but is there something that, that you're trying to work on to improve on even at this stage in your career? Yeah, for sure. I, I, and people probably laughed at this. I just saw a thing that came out saying that I'm the oldest active wide receiving the NFL, which is wild, but I don't feel that way. But in that being said, I want to be the fastest I've ever been. So my goal is to lean out to be as fast as I've ever been, top end speed, change direction, and I truly, I think I can do it.

I feel great right now. I'm excited to go into training camp to kind of these next four or five weeks to really train and push the tempo, get in the again the best shape my life and just to be a complete receivers. You know I think a lot of times as you get older as a receiver like oh you got to put him in the slot and he's slowing down but I truly believe that where I'm where I'm best is being outside playing one of a plan against one on one coverage beating man coverage and and going to make a play. So my goal is to be as fast and explosive as I possibly can. It's crazy to say that because you're, it's not like you're 36, 37, you're 33 and that's

going to be the oldest receiver in the NFL. That's kind of wild to think about. And when you came out of college, so you were undrafted and having to grind to make the Vikings, we've talked to our good friend, Will Compton. He's kind of given us a peek behind the scenes about what it's like being an undrafted guy and having to prove yourself all the extra stuff you have to do, especially that first year. What was the process like of you trying out for the Vikings

and when did you realize I can do this? Like I'm good enough to play in the NFL. Yeah, so it was, it's crazy being on draft. Obviously now that I like look back at it, it probably makes me more anxious or anxiety or like, uh, nervous, uh, looking back at it. Then I wasn't the moment. And the moment I was just like going to work, playing football, having fun, not even really thinking about getting cut or what that looks like as an

undrafted guy, especially. But, um, but yeah, it's a, it's a wild process. I think for me me I got very little reps in preseason. I think I got like three reps my first preseason. I go back to training camp and like I felt like I was making plays and I'm like you know in rookie camp obviously I was making plays because I was not even signed at the moment and then you know after rookie camp I was signed and given an opportunity to go to training camp and see what happened but in preseason games I was getting zero reps zero so it was hard to really prove myself to other teams so I'm thinking like man if I get released and not on practice squad like I probably this is probably it but thankfully the Vikings saw something in me put me on practice squad and that's when I really knew that I could do this at a high level because during that that first year of being on practice squad I was able to go against the starters

every single day and it was my goal to make them as mad as possible every single day and so when I started beating the starters day in day out consistently didn't matter if it was in the field or in the red zone it didn't matter like I was going out there with a mission to show them like I'm going to whoop you every single day and show that I can play at a high level. When I started doing that on a consistent basis, I knew I could play at a high level. It was just now it's like, all right, like, how do I get an opportunity? Yeah, going into the next year I go and same kind of type of deal. I'm like, you know, playing some special teams like maybe the seventh, eighth receiver. Thankfully, got an opportunity to make that to roster

and basically just play special teams. And again, I made it my mission that I was going to dominate my role. I was gonna go out there and every single time I stepped on that field, I was gonna be noticed on tape. And I kinda kept doing that, doing that until I got an opportunity to play a receiver

and made the most of it and the rest is history. Yeah. I mean, it's an incredible story. I also love the fact that you weren't invited to the combine and then you did the regional combine and you finished with like top 20 times. That had to feel good and being like, Hey, you were in a four, four, five, which I don't know how you're going to get faster than that. That's a crazy statement. I, maybe you will, but that had to feel at least a moment where like I belong here. You guys didn't invite me to the combine and I went and I showed out. And if I had been invited to the combine, it would have been a top 20 guy in terms of metrics.

Yeah, it's, it's, it's wild because I don't think people even know that those are my times right. And like some of the numbers that stack up against the guys that were in the draft. And so at the time when I, when I got those results back, I'm like, oh heck, like I might get drafted. Like late rounds, like there was never a question about my tape. Like could I run rounds? Could I catch the football? Like there was never a question about that. It was more like, oh, is it D2 guy? Like can he run? You know, competition wasn't great, blah, blah.

So when I started putting those numbers up, I'm like, like well they don't really have anything to say that I can't do and and obviously that's not how they think about it they didn't I don't think a lot of you still even knew who I was I still remember the day that I went to that that Super Regional Combine in Dallas and at the at the stadium there and I I kind of you know said, I put those numbers up, so you're getting some scouts coming up to you talking to you. And so I'm like, man, like this is a real opportunity to get drafted here. And before that, I'm like, there's no way I'll get drafted. There's no opportunity. But yeah, it's crazy that still didn't really

get any interest at all after that. Yeah. I want to go back to like halfway through your career for the Vikings when Teddy Bridgewater was the quarterback and he gets injured. Did you throw up? Well, I didn't throw up, but man, I have a vivid memory of that. I was as close to Teddy as you possibly could be.

I wasn't in on the play, but I was like right behind where the quarterback stands on that play. I believe, if I remember right, I I was like right behind where the quarterback stands on that play. I believe If I remember right, I believe it's just like a jog through we were like going into week one We were just finished up all of our preseason games And so it was kind of like a jog through practice right before they make all the cuts going into week one and he just was taking a three-quarter speed drop and Stumbled and tripped a little bit and stepped wrong and I will never forget what that looked like and then just the pain

and And what just happened and sued after that with no one really everybody in shock But I mean unbelievable job by the training staff and those guys Accepted to really save Teddy and give him another chance at you know Save his leg and give another chance at playing at a high level. And going into that game is kind of wild because we just had played a preseason game. I believe it was against the Chargers at home and going going into that, we were like going to that week one, we're like, man, like, this is our year like Teddy's lights out

right now. He's taking this like crazy leadership role and just flourishing in that, like so confident. And if any of you guys have been around Teddy, like he is one of the most fun people to be around because he has this really cool ability to relate to everybody and have fun but also be serious at the same time. So like there was a lot of, there was a lot of expectations there. And when that happened, everybody was just kinda like in shock and didn't know how to feel. So we were in a Vegas airport on a flight to Minnesota to come to your facility to interview Teddy and Zimmer

and like everyone. And we were literally sitting waiting for our flight when we saw the news. We still came, but the Vikings stashed us in a basement and didn't. It was crazy. We showed up the next day and the facility, we saw it firsthand, everyone in shock. So we're always linked to Teddy Bridgewater being like, man, we were this close to interviewing all the guys and that happened. Did someone throw up? Oh man, I can't confirm or deny that. I really don't remember.

Okay, someone did. Yeah, someone did. Probably, I mean, honestly, I'm telling you, I'm still like, I'm in shock from that moment, like still to this day, like it was just, you can't explain it. You can't explain the feeling, you can't explain anything, because everyone was like, no one knew what to do.

And no one knew what was gonna happen, no one who was going on with Teddy, like it was crazy, and something that I'll never forget, obviously. Yeah, it must have been a wild day. Also, during your tenure with the Vikings, this was 2015, a very important contract dispute went down. I'm curious to hear kind of like what

happened behind the scenes, if you guys had any strong thoughts about it. Your unofficial mascot, Ragnar the Viking. You remember Ragnar? Used to drive the motorcycle out onto the field? This is where I think the Vikings really took a big misstep here. He held out and he demanded a 10-year contract

for $1.6 million. And the Vikings said, no, we don't need you to drive the motorcycle in the field anymore. This negotiation is over. And they kind of washed their hands of Ragnar. Were you trying to support Ragnar behind the scenes like we were? Did you advocate, like, hey, you've

got to pay your best guys, let's get Ragnar paid here so we can keep the good vibes going? Or were you in favor of the team line at that point and say you know what that's money that could be used on facilities. Well I'll say this I have a different perspective because I grew up going to Vikings games as a kid and seeing it and one of the coolest things you're in the metrodome like loud environment the noises are echoing in there and then you got the Regnar and the motorcycle ramping it up brings him out of the tunnel like one of the coolest things ever in my opinion and

and then like for that to happen obviously I'm a big Regnar fan I'd love to have back in fact I think why not bring him back now yeah you know get him out I think I think he's like a high school principal or he was at the time that was his story and and he wanted to he demanded the raise and they said no.

So tough, tough negotiations there, but I think they bring him back. I think that's a reasonable request. $1.6 million, eight home games a season, 10 years. He wanted to be a Viking for life. He wanted to be locked up at that point. You gotta lock him up. You gotta take care of your guys.

You gotta pay Ragnar. Yeah, gotta lock a guy up like that. Yeah, just a big time vibes guy. Was that hard for you since you grew up in Minnesota, you're a Vikings fan, you play football in college at Minnesota, you go to the Vikings. Was it hard for you to leave? Would you ever see a world where you're like,

yeah, I am going to test free agency, yeah, I'll go play somewhere else? Or how did that process go down? Well, I was about to say, if Ragnar wanted to be a Viking for life, yeah, I'll go play somewhere else? Or how did that process go down? Well, I was about to say, you know, if Regnar wanted to be a Viking for life, so did I. And it didn't work out for either of us. Yeah, no, it was tough. It was tough.

It was a weird thing. You know, once you get into like year 10 with the team, you're kind of thinking like, man, like getting close to the end, like hopefully you can just finish it out. And obviously what a story, like hopefully can just finish it out. And obviously what a, what a story like grew up a Vikings fan, never left the state of Minnesota high school college. And then the NFL, um, you know, was able to be a part of some awesome teams. And I'm like,

man, this is like storybook ending, right? Like I got to watch Chad Greenway come out of the tunnel the last time, like new years retiring. One of the coolest moments, like chills down your body. I always thought that would be me someday. And then for that to kind of end the way it did was it was a real bummer, obviously. But at the end of the day, it's a business. And like, if I put myself in their shoes,

I probably would have felt like doing the same thing. You know, old receiver, you know, coming out of his prime, they got some young guys coming up. I totally understand where they were coming from. And at the same time, I felt like, hey, I can still play at a high level and I don't want to retire yet. So yeah, I get it. I got no hard feelings. I love the Minnesota Vikings organization. I love everybody in that building. I still have such a great connection with so many people in that building. So that probably makes it even harder because I'm like, man, I'm in Minnesota right now for a little month break. I just want to go over to the building and say what's up to everybody. But it's just a little

bit different. But when I'm done playing and stuff, obviously I'll be back there and, you know, can't wait to be able to reunite with a lot of those guys. That's awesome. So the the beef was squashed with the Vikings. What about your beef with Belichick? Still going on? That's not squashed. Yeah. Tell your side of the story. I was hoping to be at the roast at the roast with Tom Grady so I could you know roast Belichick. But no no there's no no hard feelings There's obviously so much respect for that guy, man, playing against his defenses. Wow, that was, that was not fun,

especially when, when you were making plays and stuff, he's just going to take you out of the game anyway possible. But yeah, I was, I was a little frustrated at the time. Yeah. So what exactly happened? It was, it was a injury that he then was able to use to challenge a play in. And then afterwards he did a blow by on the handshakes. Yeah. So, so I didn't, I, I felt like there was a little bit of, uh, I don't want to say

cheating, but there's a little bit of like stretching the rules. Um, and we were like losing at them at the time. I was frustrated. They were double teaming me. I wasn't getting to be able to do my thing. Um, and I'm a little bit of hot headed. I've had to work on over my career. So I saw him kind of look at a player player takes the knees, not even injured, but he takes a knee, gives them time. Like we, they had given us the first down. We were finally starting to get a little momentum and then, you know, he was able to challenge the play and I was, I wasn't too happy. So I just kind of let him know like that. I didn't, I didn't feel like that was the right thing to do, but it

is what it is. Yeah. Yeah. So, but everything's okay now. Everything's good. Yeah. I mean, he's not coaching anymore. So I'm dealing with them. Yeah, that's all good. I feel like, I feel like bill Belichick would historically really like somebody like you. Well, it's funny. Actually after, after that, I believe that going to that next off season, he had reached out to the team about, you know, possibly trading for me, trying to get me from there. So, it must have been like a good impression. He must have liked that kind of tenacity or competitiveness, I guess. Yeah, yeah. What, so Kirk Cousins gets talked about a lot in the media.

He's had a really good career. Obviously, you're a teammate for a long time. What does the media get wrong about Kirk? Well, I think just the type of person he is. I mean, again, as NFL athletes or athletes in general, people only see what they see on Sundays for us, Sundays, Mondays, whatever. And they don't see the work that gets put in to get there.

And that guy is the most process driven person I've ever been around my life. It's unbelievable. He does not leave any stone unturned. He does not, he, I mean, he will never not be prepared for a game. And when you're on that team, you, you can't, you can't do anything but appreciate that and to really trust it and to buy into it so I think what people get wrong is is like yeah he's made a lot of money and no super bowls and all that but like he's putting everything he possibly can he's getting paid that money and he's not stealing from them. He is putting every ounce of time, effort, money into having the most success as a team and as an individual.

So when you see that day in and day out, you're like, you know what? I'm good with it. Pay him as much as you got to because he's going to give you as a team a great opportunity to win games just because of his process. Yeah, has he ever cooked, grilled for you, where he put a steak on tin foil?

So I saw the pictures. I feel like this was like maybe four or five years ago when he posted on. And I texted him immediately. I'm like, what is that? And he didn't like that. He is kind of like, what do you mean? It's just a steak.

But it looked terrible. So I'm actually going out there this summer to his place on Michigan and going to visit him for a day so we'll see how his through grilling ability is and if it's any good yeah what were his his aux cord privileges like in the weight room because I know he's a big Creed guy he likes to blast Creed and Nickelback I think was he allowed did did you guys let him do like okay Kirk you get the playlist for one day each summer or was there just an open thing like if you want to blast Creed go for it?

Well I think what played into his favor is like the O-line couldn't have been more on board on that. So they took over the Oxford and like 90% of the team hated it but the O-line like what are you going to do? Like you're not going hated it. But the O-Lon, like, what are you gonna do? Like, you're not gonna say anything to the O-Lon. They just kind of, you know, it is what it is. They got their own little fraternity. It's kind of funny, like, when you think about the O-Lon, in the NFL, like, pretty much every room I've ever been in, or every team I've ever been on, that has like, the O-Lon is kind of like this little fraternity. Like, they're like the boys, like, they hang out together all the time outside the building.

Like they always have each other's backs. And so that was kind of what it was. And they just took over the iceboard and Kirk was all for it, which was, uh, was kind of a cool little bit there. I like how quarterbacks always get their offensive linemen. They usually get them like golf carts, uh, Yeti coolers, maybe some like fishing gear, nice present at the end of the year. Do as wide receivers, do you ever buy presents for the quarterbacks if you have a great year? So that's always an

interesting thing because I feel like that whole bit has gotten like way overblown and now has made it like super awkward for the quarterbacks because now I feel like the old linemen are like expecting like this like grand prize and like this big show like walk out into the field. I was like, oh, brand new ATV. Like it's almost like it's like the best in the world or something. And I don't know, I just feel like it's been overblown. Like, yeah, is it nice to like, yeah, hey man,

like you're doing a great job. You're protecting me, keeping healthy. That's awesome. But long story short, no, I have not bought a quarterback gift Maybe I maybe I should But but yeah, it's uh, it's kind of a weird awkward thing Usually you try to take care of the people in the building right that like are not like Making millions of dollars and are grinding away. I mean you think about you go into this this NFL building

I mean you got so many employees that absolutely give everything they have into that organization and want to win, probably worse than most of the players, because they've been a part of this organization for so long. I mean our equipment guy, Dan Stryne, in Minnesota had been there for forever, I think like 40 some years, and I'm probably wrong on the number, but it was unbelievably just retired now they named the women's room after him, but there's so many of that in Carolina, Donnie, he's the same thing. He's been there forever, been a part of all this history. And those are the guys you usually want to take care of and you want to get them a nice Christmas gift just because of

all the work they put in. Yeah. All right. So this has been awesome. I got a couple last questions. The first one is the Minneapolis miracle. I know this is, you know, you know, it happened, whatever, six, seven years ago, but just take me back real quick to the locker room after, cause I would imagine that was the coolest locker room to ever be in after Stefan Diggs makes that catch and you guys win with no time left on the clock. I've never, I never hugged so many people in my entire life. I mean, it was like, you didn't even know the people.

You're like, yeah, I can give them a big hug, dabbing them up. You're like, I have no idea who you are. I don't know if you're part of the team, but like, let's go. Like you're even bare hug, bare hugs to everybody. It was, it was crazy. I mean, again, like you put so much effort and time

and energy and sacrifice into this. And and like that's your goal, right? Like you're doing it all with the end goal, like get to the Super Bowl, get to the NFC championship game to give you an opportunity to go to the Super Bowl. And like to win the way we did, like the year we were having and like the Saints was always like this crazy rival. We always faced them and it was always a tough matchup. And then like that game, like the ups and downs, like the emotions like, oh, we always faced some and it was always a tough matchup and then like that game like the ups and downs like the emotions like oh we're gonna win this for sure oh wait now we're gonna lose this for sure oh now we're gonna win it like it was like four times that you're like oh like this is guaranteed like either win or loss and for it to end the way it did like it was it was the coolest experience of my

life I'll never I'll never get tired of talking about the miracles. People every single day pretty much will come up to me and ask me about that game. So a pretty cool lot of memories from that game. Obviously disappointed the next week very quickly because had our chance to go to a Superbowl. It was in Minnesota, first team ever to play in a Superbowl in Minnesota or in their own own state. So that would have been pretty cool. But yeah, really cool memory. Yeah, it's an all time sports moment and it's why we watch sports as fans. All right, so I had one last question, the rollback question, R-H-O-B-A-C-K dot com promo code take 20% off your first purchase, cues, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, great polos for golf. So let's bring it back to golf real quick. You are going to be, like I said, at the top at the American Century

Celebrity Golf Championship in Tahoe. We'll be there too. What do you drive? Like what's your average length of your drive and what's the one part of your game that's like, I got to do this to be in the top five or maybe win this thing. So I hit about 330. Woo, Jesus. Again, like that's always been my strength. But the issue is I started to get a little bit of confidence and then I like, and I'm a meathead. So I'm like, oh, I'm gonna hit driver

even though I shouldn't. Like there's like a 20 yard gap, right? And there's like out of bounds on the right, water in the left. I'm like, I'll hit driver, I'm I shouldn't like there's like a 20 yard gap, right. And there's like out of bounds on the right water in the left on my driver, I'm gonna bomb it. And so that gets me into a lot of trouble. But so I what I would say is playing like actual smart golf, like thinking through the golf course, like Tiger says it in a lot of stuff books, and you can read about it, you can hear interviews, he talks about it, like, he's not gonna like overpower you in a lot of ways. He's gonna outthink you.

He's gonna play the course how the course is supposed to be played and not a lot of people can do that. So I think that's what I gotta do. I also got it out there. It's all about the wedges. Can you hit those 60 to 120 yard shots, which you think would be the easiest shots. But when you get a little pressure greens are tough and you get, uh, it's just those shots become tough. So I'm going to be grounded on those 60 to 120 yard shots and try to give myself a chance at,

you know, going to win in that thing. Have you thought about wearing the arm sleeve, the compression sleeve on your left arm, like you do during games like maybe wear that On the course. That's a great point because I had I've never gone a game without the arm sleeve in my entire career Or a visor so so maybe I should wear like some sort of a visor and arm sleeve and that could maybe help Yeah, I think that's a smart move. Yeah, I noticed that early when you talk about the biggest threats I don't think you said Patrick Mahomes.

That's interesting. I don't think Patrick Mahomes is the biggest threat on the golf course. Obviously he's the biggest, but golf course I think a little different. This is how you motivate a man like that. Yeah, he's going to win another Schumer ball. He's going to hear this. Yeah. I know he does have like a real golf hole in his backyard, so maybe he's been grinding

away and he's going to completely surprise me. And he does get better every year. He's got a great swing. I just, uh, I don't see him winning it. But again, like I said, I probably just motivated him. He's probably gonna pull my book. Do you have a caddy for this? Yeah. So my brother-in-law, he's caddy from the last few years. Um, and we have a great time, very similar type of people. So, um, he loves the game of golf. So he's been my caddy. We've kind of switched guys over the years, but I was always like a close friend, a buddy. And so just try to go out there and have fun. But also, I tend to get a little too competitive. So having

somebody that knows how to calm me down a little bit and bring me back to reality that my real job is football and not golf. I tend to forget that pretty quickly when I get out of style. It's interesting because the old saying is, you know, Minnesota nice. I don't, I don't think you're Minnesota nice. Are you? I'm not Minnesota nice, but I do have like this, my wife hates it. Probably the worst quality that I have for her. But I have this ability to be like a people pleaser a little bit, you know, where I just,

I have a tough time like being the bad guy. But when the competitive juices flow, it's, it's, uh, I always say like, you know, whenever I get a chance to talk to the team, you know, talk to the receivers, whatever, like I always say, like when you get in between those lines, like you can't be Mr. Nice guy. You can't be the same guy you are every day that you should be right. Like the way you treat people in the building the way You treat your coaches the way that you you know Handle your business and do things the right way yet like you should do those things obviously

But when you step in between those lines like you can't be that guy Because you will not be that dog that that different type of player that you want to be if you don't like hey like I remember like playing on special, it probably helped me with that mindset. It's like, if you go out there and just think you're just going to go out there and like do your job, like you are going to get destroyed. So like, you got to like somehow flip this switch to like,

no, like I'm a dog. Like I'm going to go out there and murder someone even though I'm like unmatched. Like I'm not matched up with that. Like when I was playing special, you know I was 195 pounds, like usually having to like block a 230 pound linebacker like I'm not matched up with that. Like when I was, especially as I was 195 pounds, like usually having to like block a 230 pound linebacker that was running a four four. And so like

I'm unmatched here, but like, I just going to like turn this brain off and like flip a switch and just be a dog. And, and uh, yeah, that's kind of where it comes from Minnesota nasty. That's what I call it. Yeah. That's good. Well, yeah, Adam, thank you so much, man. We really appreciate it. We'll see you out in Tahoe. Best of luck. Yeah, it's good. Well, yeah Adam. Thank you so much, man. We really appreciate it We'll see you out in Tahoe best of luck We might have to try to heckle you because we're just gonna try to get in everyone's head But we're excited to be there and good luck in the tournament. I appreciate looking forward to seeing you guys out there I'm feeling was brought to you by visible if you haven't heard of visible now you have that the wireless carrier

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With Fire Fest of the week. Anti-Fire Fest, by the way. We never talked about it, but last week the real shame happened. We got kicked out of the beer Olympics. It's a real shame. If we had a reverse fire fest, what a shame. I'm really upset about that. That is my fire fest this week. I was very, very much looking forward

to traveling for four days and not getting work done. A shame, shame, shame. Getting out drank by a bunch of celebrities that are probably going to cancel. So fuck. Damn it. Damn it. I'm Drake. No No Drake is That was tough night. That was bad. Talk about fire for a joke Lamar had all of LA out

All of LA played the song five times in a row. Yeah, Ron was dancing the cameraman He started to get in on the cuts what what what what I didn't realize He played it five times in a row. I just saw the one with like tomorrow Russell Westbrook the fifth time The track list is like it was he did like 20 20 songs or whatever and it was 21 not like us 22 Not like us 23. Oh, that's awesome. That's awesome. Yeah, you saw LeBron with Savannah standing by the stage Everybody was there. It was wild Sure, Tyler the Creator also put on a great show. Yeah Okay, Hank your fire fest the week. I fire fest the week is apparently

I'm a bad celebrator of championships. Yes, Barstool gaming. I knew this was happening in real time I think I might have said it like shortly after But when you're the favorite so there are shortly after. But when you're the favorite, so the Barstool gambling account posted a clip of the gambling cave when we won the championship. It was me and Fiddleberg, Dana, Clemmer, Wonton, Don, all the Boston Celtics fans. And it was pretty, you know, we just kind of clapped, dapped it up. Like when you're in the gambling cave, it is weird. I'm big cat. You kind of happened with you too in the Cubs one It's like you're not really like in the mode where you're you know drunk and celebrating and letting out all your emotions Especially when the game is over at right time. We knew we were you know, it was basically a formality at that point So we didn't have the crazy celebration and then the video has what right now is 19.9 million views in every sports fan base

Quote-tweeted it being like I've celebrated sacrifice bonds more than 2900 quote tweets. Yeah. Yeah. No you you are right I mean, I think the context of the fact you guys were up the whole game too in the series of blow up But you are right because I remember like when the Cubs won the World Series I was in we were in the old New York office and it was like me and Glennie balls. No offense. Glennie balls love him. He doesn't have any he doesn't care about the Cubs whatsoever. And I was just like,

okay, like I'm looking around. It's just it was a bunch of people actually rooting against me and then they won. I remember game six when they beat the Dodgers to go to the World Series. I was at that game and I partied my fucking face off and it was awesome. But yeah, like being in a gambling cave like that,

it's a little bit different. Yeah, if it was a buzzer beater that you guys won on, I'm sure you guys would have gone nuts. But the way that this clip, it starts in a bad look for you guys, which is fights on the couch and he just starts yawning. He's yawning as the final whistle is blown. And this is also just classic Boston

It gives a lot of like gives there's a lot of red meat on the bone for people that like to hate on Boston sports fans Because you guys have had so much success that it does piss a lot of people off myself, which is good Yeah, I mean, it's like it's like hey, it's literally hate us cuz yeah, it's like you have championship fatigue It's like when Nancy Pelosi hits a massive winning trade. She doesn't like jump around be like, yes, I don't have to work anymore This is usual. That's how that's how we operate around. Yeah the the It does look it gives a lot of vibes of like finishing 18 holes with your friends There's just some nice calm handshakes And like all right another one. I got a couple of the best quote treats

This guy said my cat gets more excited to go to the vet than this. This guy, this might be Max's burner. He said, I've celebrated a Tobias Harris corner three in a January game to cut the deficit to seven in the third quarter harder than this. That's a reverse on right there. Yeah. I've celebrated harder on a ghost wipe than these guys winning a championship. That's true. I've absolutely celebrated harder on a ghost swipe. Saved a lot of time. Yep. I celebrated Iowa punting harder than this. Yeah. That's just Iowa football. Yeah. I've celebrated finding a $5 bill in a coat I haven't worn in a while more than this. And then on and on and on. Yeah. Everyone has chimed in on that. Yeah. I just don't know really. I was thinking that what should I do? And I kind

of knew that that was going to be the reaction, but But I also wasn't gonna fake it like I wasn't gonna No, it was your drop to my knees and be like you guys knew you were gonna win After game three. Yeah, you had a lot of great moments that cumulatively like built up to much more than this final thing Yeah, you got to enjoy the ride and you were locked in Like for the whole game. Yeah, but yeah, it's very funny that you became you became a quote tweet machine meme for not really Karen. Yeah. I mean, it's been 18 years of people hating on us for winning and it's just it's not going to stop and we're not going to stop. You're probably running is so great. It's such a good yawn. Yeah. And

he's like laying back with his belly out. Yeah, and everyone just really Yeah, everyone does a really simple high five. Yeah, it is like a yeah Alright good match. Yeah, right. It could be worse It could be a lot worse if you guys had you know, the golfers always miss the handshakes They always screw up the handshakes in the high fives. I think you guys connected on just about all of them Yeah, true. Yeah, so if you had messed up the handshakes, then it's like, it becomes more of an own than this. Yeah. This is just, yeah, hate us because they anus.

Yeah. PFT, what's your favorite of us? I've got a couple. One is Blake has started to go after my penis again. Uh-oh. Yeah. Cock hungry? That's his thing.

He just like, he follows me around, especially in the morning if I'm getting out of bed. He follows me from room to room. And every time I turn around, I think he thinks it's like a toy that he has to like go after and try to pick up and then run away with. So I have to walk down my hallway with my ass towards Blake. Like, and I'm always guarding my boxing them out. I'm always like, I'm setting a pick. I've got two hands in front of my balls at all points when I'm around Blake He did make contact the other day. He didn't bite but he just he just like likes to play with it Yeah, and or he thinks it's a toy and I have to like keep it away from him. Is that maybe your dick's too big

No, it's definitely not that it doesn't I don't think it would remind him of any maybe a milk bone It might remind him of a milk bone. Yeah, that's it So that's that's been a challenge that I've been dealing with and then the other is that the El Camino won't start again And I drove to work. I was so pumped. I brought it in here on on I think Tuesday and That thing was purring. It was so loud really enjoyed the ride in and then we're getting ready to tape the dozen and Just like can you go out to your car because I want to get a shot of you pulling up in the El Camino stepping out walking into the office confidently then we'll cut from that to you walking onto the set so it'll look like you just arrived so we're pre taping this thing I'm like okay this

is gonna be awesome go out to the car and then I try to start it and then it just doesn't start at all and so they're just waiting for me I'm like I'm sorry my car won't start we open up the hood I don't know. I'm not a car guy There's just gas gushing out of the car and so now I've got I gotta deal with that and maybe replace the carburetor and it's I've for the first time yesterday. I thought to myself would what if I just sold it? I'm not going to I'm not but I had the thought I gotta be honest You gotta wait till at least the end of summer I yeah, you definitely don't want it in winter I think about all of this stuff in 10 degree weather. Yes, they'll be

That would be very bad or I could try to give it away to somebody that I hate and act like I'm giving them A present like hey, guess what? I got you an El Camino. I like enjoy it. I like that you you sucker But max I am I am gonna fix it I'm gonna fix it Shane's dad tried to help me fix it today. We're looking good. Pug, Pug, you got your hand up. No, nothing's working. Just tune in to PMTV to watch everything.

PFT just talked about Pug. Yeah, it's been a real roller coaster. Yeah. The plug. Real Pug God. Pug God. I can't believe we don't have anybody really inside this building that knows about cars. Really? Not really. No, I'm saying like that's surprising. Oh, God can't believe we don't have anybody really inside this building that knows about cars really not really

No, I'm saying like that surprising. I feel no a bunch of fucking indoor bloggers I feel like there would be one person that knows about cars chaps is your only shot chat all these things He was like you want me to shoot it. He's the manliest man, and then yeah, if he doesn't have it. It's over. Yeah I'm trying to think who else yeah, there's not He doesn't have it, it's over. Yeah. I'm trying to think, who else? Yeah, there's not. White boy Rick. A lot of our security guards?

I've talked to all the security guards. Ran through all the security guards. White boy Rick, no chance. I even asked a random guy that was walking down the street if he knew about cars. Yeah. I've reached that point. That's brutal.

Hey, you want to come help me fix my car? OK. By the way, is pug like the hottest stock in the game right now Oh for sure. It's crazy for sure the 99 pug just on the way out. It's wild pug I Mean, it's that's just how the lottery ball goes. You don't know when it's gonna hit your be Your beast I just had an idea for like a dating app, but it's young dudes that want to meet up with old guys Who know about cars? Oh?

I'll do that like an old guy. I would like to yeah, I feel like an old guy wants to share his car knowledge I'm an aspiring car guy like I want to at some point own an old Bronco and a Cadillac mm-hmm, and I know that I need to when that day comes I have to have my schedule fully cleared to like dive into learning about cars. Yeah, yeah. That will be my thing when I retire.

It would be a great thing for just an old, cause they have all the time in the world and they want to work on cars. And all I want is just like to live in like a retirement area with drive my Bronco around and then when I want to go to the horse track drive my Cadillac. Yeah. That's a winning car. Yeah, that's a winning car. All right. My Fire Fest is, well, it's a good news, bad news situation. The good news or sorry, the bad news is I have the replacement for this

podcast. So you have to admit sometimes when you get a little older that there might be an up and comer that is ready to take the reins. The good news of it is I think it's my three year old daughter because this week my son who turned five on Wednesday, my daughter refused to wish him a happy birthday for the entire day. That's power move. And it was one of the funniest things I've ever seen.

I literally kept on saying, can you wish him a happy birthday? And she's like, no. And just all day, just held out. And I was like, this is the troll queen. This is the heir to the troll crown. What about the next day? Did she say like happy birthday yesterday?

No, but she was just like so adamantly. We were, we, we, we sang with the candles and everything. Didn't sing. She said before, she's like, I'm not going to sing. What did he do? Nothing. She just didn't. She was just not acknowledging his birthday. Did he ask her to? He was kind of like, why aren't you saying happy birthday? And she's like, I don't want to. I don't feel like it. I, because she's a queen. Yeah, it was, it was, of like, why aren't you saying happy birthday? And she's like, I don't want to. I don't feel like it. Because she's a queen. Yeah, it was. It was, I just, because it started at the beginning of the day where I was like,

can you please say happy birthday to your brother? And then as the day progressed and she kept on staying firm about it, I just started laughing every time she refused. And then she obviously went into that and was like, this is funny. I'm doing something funny. Yeah, you gave her the reinformation.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Because it is. You taught her that was a good thing. It is yeah yeah it's very funny just like I it's your it might be your birthday but I will not be acknowledging it yeah did she get any presents for his birthday she stole some of his yeah yeah but yeah that's uh she she might be my my heir apparent in terms of trolling because that's a that's a really young age to have that ability to Really stick it to someone that you love I wonder if it's gonna be every birthday or if it's just his like yeah

Just have a rivalry with the oldest or the babies. Yeah, she won't give it to the baby Yeah, everyone else is she goes crazy for yeah, then she would really be the troll. She has one enemy. Yeah Okay, good show boys Hank Great show great. We had luck great week. Hank. See you on the see you on Sunday. You're gonna have a great time It'd be a real shame if you threw up on coach Don't say that. I said it was real sure you don't think it'd be a shame. Oh, you know be a real shame Oh, no, I'm not saying you think they're gonna let Hank. I'm gonna I'm gonna be wrong Well, we already said it would be a real shame if Hank had a boating accident. Yeah

What if it was what it was this one? You're certified, right? Yeah, I know but it's still you'd be part of a boat I mean, would you say would you say somewhat would you say? a person who died on the Titanic it was part of a boating accident Yeah, I don't think there's gonna be a boating accident with the duck boats going like five miles an hour down the street But who knows that you never know. Well, no, not on the you want we're not saying on the street and they're going in the water. Yes Yeah, no, they don't go in the water, too Well, why they use the duck boat theory they do in the water because it's a Boston thing They just drive the duck boats, correct? That's weird to me. Okay, so maybe you have a boating accident on the road

No, I think you can have a boating accident on the road in a duck boat any other any other thing down downfall You want to wish no, I said it can have a boating accident on the road in a duck boat. Any other thing, downfall you want to wish? No, I said it would be a shame. I didn't say that. It would be a shame if you got a really bad sunburn. Actually, you need to sun tan because that's the only part of your head that looks weird. I know. Is that it's very white.

Let me see. Give us the whole, you have a little bit of a scar on the side of your head. You got a... I have one back here. Yeah, you have one back there, but you also have one on the side. That's from basketball. Yeah. If there's one thing you could say about Hank from today

and from the Niki Smokes clip, good head. Good head. Hank, good head approved. OK. We'll see everyone on Monday. Let's finish with numbers. Eight. Let's go 18.

Banner 18. No, it's hard. You're tired We said we weren't tired. We were tired 18 for Jake. Did we? Yeah 20 you can say 101 101 would be 18 Okay, so 18 comes up it's a hundred and three hundred one 99 p pug 20 21 For love you guys. Okay Take on me Take me up I'll be gone, and that day I'll be gone I'm really less to say, I'm all set in But I'm peace, I'm running away

So we learn that life is okay Staying'm to me It's for better to be safe I'm sorry Take on me Take me on I'll be gone In a day or two

Things that we say, yeah Is it a lie or Just to play my worries away You're all the things I've got to remember You shine away I'll be coming for you anyway Take on me, take me on I'll be gone in a day In a dream