Pardon My Take - Diamondbacks Zac Gallen & Merrill Kelly, Joey Chestnut, NBA Free Agency, Hot Seat/Cool Throne Plus Our Annual Dingers Only Fantasy Draft

Episode Date: July 2, 2025

NBA free agency is underwhelming and we have some ideas on how to fix it. LeBron re-signed but also maybe wants to get traded. Winners and losers and Dame gets cut plus are the Bucks hoarding all the Gary’s (00:00:00-00:29:14)? Steelers/dolphins trade (00:29:14-00:35:44) and hot seat cool throne including Caitlin Clark fans are mad again and Shedeur Sanders found a mentor (00:35:44-01:08:25) . Diamondbacks pitchers Zac Gallen and Merrill Kelly join us in studio to talk ball in an awesome interview (01:08:25-01:58:35). Joey Chestnut joins the show ahead of his triumphant return to Coney Island (01:58:35-02:20:15). And then we finish with our annual dingers only fantasy draft where the only stat is home runs and the season starts July 2nd (02:20:15-03:24:28)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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is back two great interviews but NBA free agency has started and it's a dud. I'm going to say right now it's a dud. What you weren't thrilled with like a couple of minor pieces moving here and there and then miles Turner being the big, the big implication. Actually the biggest news of free agency was that Dame is getting waved and stretched. They're stretching and waving Dame. So I guess he's technically a free agent right now. I want to play stretching would have been at this entire thing for Dame to begin with. But I guess Dame might get to go to whatever team he wanted to go to a couple years ago. So that's good for him. Yeah. It's it's been it's just been not as exciting. It has been in years

past because the new CBA a lot of people are saying that CJ McCollum, our good friend, ruined free agency. I would say he probably did a good job in making the league more parody in the league and teams being able to get good quicker and not having super teams. But listen, a lot of NBA fans love the off season drama. I have a take, PFT, I'd like to throw at you because we know Adam Silver listens to everything and we can easily bully him. And we'll talk about who's the winners and losers and Dame and all that stuff and LeBron James. All right, two part take. One, they got to get rid of the apron word. I'm so sick of it. Listen,

I read, I basically Googled, explain the second apron to me as a five year old. I'm so sick of it. It makes it listen. I read I basically googled explain the second apron to me as a five-year-old. I found a bunch of posts. I read an article. I watched a video. I think I fully understand it except for the fact that they keep calling it the first apron, second apron. If they just called it jail and prison I think it would make a lot more sense because that's really what it is. The second apron is prison. They basically, for people who don't understand what they've done with the salary cap is they used to have all these rules where if you go over the salary cap, your owner has to just pay extra money and these guys are really rich and it doesn't

matter. Now they've made it. If you go over the second apron, you lose future draft picks, you lose ability to trade cash, you lose ability to like mid-level exception signs. So they restrict you. They put you in prison. If they tell you, if a team is going into prison and free agency, I understand it a lot easier than the second apron. I think instead of jail and prison, it should be jail and hell. Fine. And it's very confusing that they use the word apron and it's like teams getting under the second like it's kind of sexual. It makes it makes me think that we're getting busy now. It's I don't know if it's sexual. I never thought of it as sexual. That might be a bonk. I thought of it under somebody's apron. Yeah, I thought of it more as like you're just wearing an apron in the in the kitchen and you're getting splashed with oil. I want to get under the apron. I want to see what's underneath there. There were two aprons. PFT like, oh, they're getting another second one. If you get on

the first apron, that's okay. That's like first aid shit. If you get under the second apron, now we're talking like we're moving in. But what you just, but what you just explained it jail and prison makes sense because then you can say your team got out of prison or jail and hell. I like jail and hell. But you put prison is more than jail. It is. Yeah, that's true. It's like first apron, second apron, prison and jail. I mean, I also thought like you just do like a fire here in the fire storm or you know, a volcano eruption. I don't, I don't care. They just need to get rid of the apron, especially because it's hurting guys. Like my good friend, PFD, who's like getting rock hard every time he sees the word apron first guy ever. Dude, I love you. You and I know Fieri. No, no, no. It's getting

under the apron is what gets me going. I don't care if there's, I don't care if there's two aprons, but if I'm getting under two aprons, then I'm grinding, man. I'm bumping. But either way, do you like my idea? Jail, jail and prison. Explain it to us better. No, I do like the idea. Just jail and prison. You did it one time. You, you conflated the two because jail and prisoners so close, like they're so similar. That's what I'm thinking. Jail is first one and then hell is the second one. Yeah. Wait, what do you mean? I conflated the two. You switched them up one of the times when you explained it because it's confusing because they're so similar.

No prisons always the second apron or maybe it's the alligator alligator Alcatraz is the second apron. That's fine. That's fine too. Um, so that's the first one. Fix that Adam silver change the name. I don't care. Just make it so that it's relatable to us. I don't give a fuck about this apron. First apron, second apron. You you sound you're basically making a bunch of people walk around and sound like nerds when they say it, when they go on like, well, yeah, the war, yeah, with boners, the war, yeah, they're incels. They're nerds who can't get their boners touch. The warriors need to get under the second apron. No, the warriors have to get out of prison. Okay. That's the problem. That's it. And you're making America hard. Yeah. You're making America hard. All right. Here's the other one. Because it's it's I miss the days of just chaos. I don't think this should happen every year. But I think it should happen randomly. It could happen during the season. It's essentially its video game rules. And Adam Silver just says for the next hour salary caps off.

I kind of like that. It's when you go to the menu in your video games, you turn off salary caps. You could do any trade ever and you have to get it signed. You have to get your player signed in that window. And so everyone would just go crazy. Like, all right, the Nuggets are going to sign Jokic to $1 billion 10 years salary caps off. But it actually has to be signed. The legal document has to be signed and you have no idea when it's coming. So you basically have an hour to scramble,

try to get ahold of your, of your players, try to get ahold of free agents, everything, get the deal done. And then he's like, boom, salary caps back on. And then it would be great because like four years from now you're like oh shit why is uh why is kcp making like 400 million dollars oh that's because they he was the only guy they could reach during the salary caps off uh window i like that idea i also like the idea of designating one guy maybe per roster every two or three years who's allowed to just his individual salary does not count towards the cap yeah you have one guy that's immune to the cap. Yeah. I mean SGA, we should talk about that.

That's a spicy meatball. Congrats. Fleeced. He fleeced the thunder. Four years, $285 million. What is that? $71.25? Is that right? $71.25 per year? Someone did the math because it obviously escalates. I think it's in his final year of the contract, he'll be making over $1 million per game. So, and he's, he's, he's still not the highest paid player. Jason Tatum still has that, but, uh, SGA pretty nice. Pretty nice.

Hank, I have a question for you. Yes. PFT with the, uh, with the dames stretching and waving, did the thought cross your mind? What if we did that with Tatum? No. Did you even think about it? No. Tatum's so much older. Yeah, but you didn't even think about it.

I know. In the gym, Tatum's already grinding. What if you stretched him? No. The dames, why? I not waved him. No, no, I not waved him, just stretched him? No, the Dames. Why wave them? No, no, I not wave them. Just stretched them. No.

Well, you don't even know. You don't even know how to do that. We don't need to do that. We're talking we're talking like a probably eight to 10 year difference. OK, somebody did the math. They said SGA is going to make one hundred six thousand dollars per free throw next season. That's awesome. That's pretty good. Good for him. Yes. So I'm looking at the calendar right now. It is Bobby Bonilla day. Does that mean

that Dame also gets paid on Bobby Bonilla day? I don't know. I think he gets, so I think his cat, he gets all the money and then the cap, like the stretching part of it is the next five years, the bucks have a count against their cap, like $20 million or whatever it is. So that's the stretching part. And then they waived them. I also don't know. Can you guys explain to me, Chris Haynes? I, that guy's weird. So I, he's maybe related. He's maybe married to someone who's related to Yanis. He's also like best friends with Dame. So the bucks, he was theucks insider. But then there's the story that he said that Yannis was upset that Dame was stretched and waived. And then Shams had a story that Yannis essentially recruited Miles Turner and Miles Turner wouldn't have

been able to be recruited if it weren't for Dame getting stretched and waived. I don't really understand the situation. I think Yannice probably, I probably am going to agree with Shams here and say that Janice wanted Miles Turner and was okay with the stretching and waving, but the whole thing, and he also got caught. He did, he tried to act really quick during free agency. I think it was maybe James Harden. He did, no wait, who was it? Oh yeah. I think it was James Harden. He, he did AI. No, no, it was someone who changed to the Clippers. He did AI, uh, for them in a New Jersey and it spelled the name of the, the, the town wrong. It was, it was Dallas. That's what it was. It was Dorian Finney Smith and he said, or whoever went to Dallas and he, it was like

D a L L I E S because it was AI. So he's a weirdo. Yeah. I think that Yonis just kind of had to tell him that I'm sad that Dame is leaving because he doesn't want to be like, I'm so pumped that he's not going to be on the team anymore. Yeah. No, like there's no harm in just him saying like, I'm bummed out that he's gone. I think he's probably pumped to have miles turn. I think he's probably very excited that the Bucks are going to try to remain competitive somehow. Should we talk about LeBron?

Yeah, but one last thing about the Bucs though, that does suck for the Pacers because this is the reality of having Hal Burton get injured where you can't just run back the team that was in game seven of the finals and the Bucs and Pacers hate each other. So that was kind of a double whammy for Pac Pacers fans to have miles Turner go to the box. But yeah we should talk about LeBron. I have a question for you. Yeah. Is LeBron scaring free agents away from Los Angeles. They don't really have any moves because they've paid everyone a ton of they paid Luca LeBron

and Bronte I think like 90 million dollars. I heard someone at a mall he added Bronte. I was like that's a great move. I Think and this is okay, so we're not experts in the NBA. So I'm just gonna throw this out there. I Think LeBron thinks he still runs the league and he doesn't run the league anymore Yeah, I think that's what's happening right now I think he he did the whole old LeBron of like I'm taking the money and Listen, no problem with him taking the money. He He's LeBron James. He deserves the money. I'm not

going to sit here and be like, take less money. I mean, if you want to maybe win a ring and have flexibility, you should take less money, but that's not never look at another man's pockets. I think the statement where he was like, I'm going to be monitoring the situation. He was expecting every team to be like, oh shit, LeBron, we could trade for LeBron. And everyone's like, uh, why would we want to trade for a one year retirement toward $53 million for a guy who is going to basically like hijacked our entire franchise? So I don't think he has the power that he used to have. I like to say that people are scared of the Lakers because of LeBron,

just because it puts more blame directly on LeBron rather than saying like he's out of his depth right now. I think the reality is that the Lakers didn't really have a whole lot of options. They might try to go after Eaton. He's the one big that's still out there that could potentially sign with them. But he did when he when he signed his, his contract, he said, like, I'm doing this because I know it's a challenge, but I want the Lakers to remain competitive and build for the future as I'm also on the team. And when I saw that statement, I thought like, I don't know what LeBron is trying to get out of this, but he surely he must know that it's gonna be impossible to build for the future and win now when he's taking that big contract and getting his maximum value.

Correct. Correct. He might just be dumb. Well, that could be the case. I think he also just setting it up being like, I made it clear. I wanted you to build the contender. He's Tim Robinson. We're all trying to find the guy who did this, who made it so we couldn't sign any players, because they can't sign any players, but he made it clear they want he wanted them to sign players. So when they don't sign players, he'd be like, wasn't I clear? I said I wanted you to sign I wanted you to make a championship team for me.

I just heard Dave McManaman say on ESPN that he expects the late the Lakers might get involved with another team that signs a big thus making their starting center expendable and then move that person to the Lakers. So any center in the league right now that's currently on a team is on the table per Dave McManaman. Yeah, Wendy had the report. He was like, yeah, everyone was shocked by this. They're like, yeah, we don't want to trade for LeBron. There's no takers right now because obviously it instantly becomes the Cavs and everyone talks about the Cavs. I feel like the Cavs have kind of moved on from that. Why would they they had they had

the one seed. I know they got injured and they got bounced in the second round, but why would you want to do that with LeBron again? I don't know. He doesn't have the million dollars. He doesn't have the poll that he wants. If it was 30, not 50, then it's a lot different. That's where he's just selfish. Right. All right. Winners. I have the nuggets as a winner. It feels like they finally got bench depth, got a real backup center. And that was a good Michael Porter Jr. trade where they got someone who's half the money and then able to actually get some death.

They got Bruce Brown back, which was nice. I also have the Rockets. The Rockets might be my pick. I know that you don't win championships July 1st. The Rockets are going to be really good. I think the Rockets are going to be awesome. They basically have three centers now and they added Kevin Durant and I'm a Rockets believer. I love what Bruce Brown did by the way, when he left in free agency after telling the Nuggets like I'm not going to go anywhere in free agency during the parade and then waking up

the next day and be like, oh yeah, I can make, what was it like $30 million more? $40 or something. $40? Yeah. Somewhere else? Yeah. You know what? I'm actually going to go, but I'm going to be thinking about the Nuggets the whole time. I'll come back as soon as these checks stop coming in. And that's a great move. I really, I appreciate what Bruce Brown did. And he's going to be like really good again, because he's going to play with the Oak edge.

Like he basically took a sabbatical where he's like, I'm going to make the maximum amount of money. I'm probably not going to enjoy playing basketball the same way. And then I'll just come back and it will be awesome. Yeah, no, it was a good move. Why do you like the rocket so much? KD KD, their their depth with like their center depth. They have three big they got Clint Clint Capella back, obviously Steven Adams, Shangoon, like they're going to.

Steven Adams can just they can just basically rest everyone all year. I think Katie's going to be, I think Katie's got a little fuck you going tour coming. I don't know. I think he's got to fuck you tour coming. It does feel like a let him know season. Yeah. I let him know. Just feeling it in my bones. I think he's got one more of those in them and I think this might be the year. And I think the more I thought about it, I know we talked about his legacy and all that stuff. The Rockets is perfect for him where it was a really good team last year, the two seed. And now he can be the old guy who brought the young kids along. I think this might be a KD legacy year. I think he might win it all and then be like, now this one counts. Is Chris Paul, he's a free agent, right? Yeah. So he's still out there played 82 games last year. 82 games as

healthy as he's ever been. I do think that Katie's got a lot left in the tank for sure, but I really like what the Nuggets said. I think that the Nuggets like Cam Johnson. That's good. Michael Porter Jr. He's been a great player, but his back is just fucked up right now. You can't really count on him. So I like Cam Johnson whose brother's name is puff Did you know that no, that's great. His name is great right now Puff Johnson. Well, we don't know

True, it's out. We do know Four out of five On four. Do you think there's any chance that on four out of five charges? They're like not guilty, but maybe on that one Yeah, maybe on that one yeah maybe on that one he is. Maybe um I also the Hawks have done a great job the Hawks are the Hawks are gonna be good they've got they've got I mean it goes back to the draft with the pick that they got from the Pelicans um I feel like the Hawks are doing some things it's all vibe check for me too I don't know like the Celtic Hank. You lost Luke Cornett.

You've got it. You you you did get out of prison, but you were in prison. Yeah, no worries. It's a sad, sad state of affairs. Yeah, that's it. It's just the championship team is gone. Yeah, Drew's gone. Horford isn't gone yet, but he's gone. Poor Zenga is gone. You got Luca Garza, though. I mean, 10 beast. How is that even news? I don't want to be mean, but like he doesn't play. But but I think it's news because that was a news. It's like he's not.

You hear all the reports. It was like, yeah, they've they inquired about Luca Garza the last two two years. And like they were looking at, the way I breaking moves oh no breaking this is bad I like this halftime injury update red panda fell before getting started left court clutching her left wrist. Oh no. Please be okay. Oh my god. Not the red panda. Does she have an off season you think? No, fuck no dude. Come on. Halftime of what? Probably the Champions Cup, the Cup Classic. Whatever the World Cup of clubs. Yeah. No, no, no. The Champions Cup for the WNBA. Oh, OK.

Got it. Yeah. They have one of those two. Yeah. Killing cars. The commissioners cup commissioners cup. But I think it's it's the commissioners cup in the WNBA. Zach, can you look that up for us, please?

It is. It is still the commissioners cup. Damn, they copy everything. Mm hmm. They want to be so bad. Wait, are the course difference? Give us the thumbs up. He's giving us thumbs up. What'd you say? Do they make the course different on his I don't think so. The video doesn't look different on the no offense. Wait, what'd you say? I said Zach looks like a thumb on the

video feed. Yeah, he doesn't have like you can't see his face Yeah, he's not working with the best Wi-Fi Zach what's going on there, dude? My bad guys if I look like a thumb that's on me The way if the Wi-Fi is not now I've tried to get as close to router as I could but I didn't want to I Didn't want you guys getting a background noise. So I was trying to stay on different side of the house What's what's the look great. What's behind you? Like a little office. No, but what's on the wall? Oh, my mom makes these picture frames that are like a beachwood and a picture frame and then they're like put together. I'd like one of those. That's uh, I can get you on those if you'd like to, man. Yeah, I would like one of those for the, for the studio.

What's that? Yeah. Another one over there. Oh, nice. Rascal flats action on the wall there. Okay. That's a flat melt. Great. I like that. You're, you're using a laptop right in front of another bigger TV or bigger computer that's right behind you. Yeah. That's stationary. We already had the one lighting issue. I want to make sure we are mobile for you guys.

You need the frames for rivals. Yeah. Also, yes, I need all the frames I can get. All right. I have a couple other NBA notes I wanted to throw at you guys. I'm going to throw a potential trade at you. I want to tell you, you got to say yes or no. If I offered you, you have the one pick in the draft.

If I offered you the fourth, fifth, and 10th pick, would you trade? The first overall pick? Yeah, fourth, fifth, and 10th. That's pretty good. Deep draft next year. Deep draft. I have no idea if it is or not.

I'm just saying that. Yes, yes. Great. All right, so the Bulls should have Anthony Edwards on their team. That's perfect. Because the Bulls have officially completed the trade. They have the, from the 2020 draft, they now have the fourth, fifth, and tenth pick in terms of players

from that draft. Because they have Patrick Williams, they drafted fourth. They got Okoro from the Cavs, who has drafted fifth and they have Jalen Smith who's drafted tenth. So kind of stacking the 2020 draft boys. That's pretty good. Yeah. The Bulls are incapable of trading for picks. They don't actually don't know how to do it. They traded all their player good players, Zach Levine, Demar DeRose and Alex Caruso, Lonzo Ball. The only pick they got back was their own pick. That's it. And that was just at a spite just to get their own pick back. Yeah. They don't know. They actually, I don't think that they haven't read that they can do that.

In their defense, it's a lot harder to trade for nobody to be like, Hey, we're going to get nobody back. But it's a good strategy when it's good pick when you get picks. It is the correct strategy. It is the correct strategy to do for sure. But if you're a very, if you're a stupid person, it's hard to conceptualize a player that doesn't exist yet. Yeah, but I do appreciate that they listen, they're going to be bad again and they're run by incompetent losers and owned by incompetent stooges. But if you can stack multiple picks from one draft class, I always will kind of buy in because I'll be like, dude, we had three of the top 10 picks one year.

Like that's got to be good. They probably played McDonald's All American games together, went to the same camps, familiar with each other. Yeah. It's got to be good. All right. I like what the Bucks are doing outside of Miles Turner because they now have 66% of the Garys in the NBA. Okay. Kind of like that. I really do think that if they, if Yannis wants to trade or the Bucks season goes sideways, they have to do everything possible to try to get Gary Payton the second on the team.

And imagine if the Bucks could basically sell tickets being like, we have 100% of the Gary's in the NBA. Yeah. So there are, I'm guessing three Gary's. There's three Gary's. They already had one and they added another, which is significant in Gary news. If you add the second, it's basically playing monopoly. They have two thirds of an entire property now. They just got to get the last Gary and they can charge everyone a ton of rent. You want to hear something crazy? Yeah. The Lakers have a hundred percent of the LeBron's in the NBA right now. That's true. That's true.

Corner of the market. They don't have 100% of the Lucas. The Celtics have half of that share. What if the Lakers could get a really good player in a trade, but they had to give up, obviously had to trade probably Dalton Connect, and then the other team was like, we need Brawny or it's a no-go. Yeah, I think they would have to do it, right?

Would you trade your own son away? You'd have to trade him. You'd have to trade him. Knowing LeBron, he'd probably make it like a viral moment where he goes up to him in the middle of a game and does the, well, he probably didn't get to that part in Godfather 2 yet but he someone would tell him hey you got to go kiss him like he's Fredo and let him send him on his way. What the Lakers should do to see if LeBron is actually committed they should tell him we have to trade your son because we're getting this great player

and then once LeBron agrees to it then they they say that was a test. You get to keep your child very good. Solomon. No, Solomon. Solomon. Yeah. Solomon. Yeah. See if he's willing to sacrifice his own child for the betterment of the team. See if he's the true king. Yeah. And if he, and if he won't do it, then you know, he's not the true king to begin with. Yeah. Then we build. Yeah, I like that. Make it a whole decision. Make it like a, a deal or no deal. Put Bronte in a suitcase. Yeah, I like that. Make it a whole decision. Make it like a deal or no deal. Put Bronte in a suitcase. Yeah.

All right. And then the last thing, Duncan Robinson, our friend, recurring guest made a ton of money going to the Pistons. I like that. Also crazy because I didn't know but he is the leader in heat franchise history for three pointers made and by like a large margin, which is something that kind of shocked me a little, but also makes sense with how the NBA has gone with the three pointers. But I, did you guys know that offhand? Not offhand.

If you had asked me, I probably would have guessed. James Jones, Mike Miller. I would guess you can't guess number two. You can't guess number two, which is just as shocking because obviously I've revealed that Duncan Robinson is one Tyler Hero. Yeah. So you think guess it Tyler Hero. Number two. Yeah. It's crazy. You know, it's has him just just out of sheer longevity.

You don't just has him Not not not on the list Yeah, Dwayne Wade all the way down at number nine, but shout out Duncan Robinson he has 200 more threes than the second most threes in he history so Records about to be dames Yeah, it might be dames. Well, no because dame no chance dame plays enough games you have to make like maybe if he made 600 threes for two years, what if he's just so happy to finally be in Miami?

It's like what if Dame was right that he just needed Florida to unlock his best potential. He goes down there just buries threes all day. That could happen. Hey, Max, did the sixers do anything? No, they lost Yabu and then signed Tyrese maxi's friend. Oh Okay. Well, that's cool. Where'd y'all go? I forgot to Do the next huh? Oh, oh you mean or John staley's Knicks?

Yep Memes? She's a good coach. He is a good coach. A good coach. He is a good coach. Philly. Trendin Watford was the guy we signed, by the way.

I forgot his name. Do you like what the Knicks did? Memes outside of maybe hiring Don Staley? Yeah, the Knicks are broke. So they got Jordan Clarkson and Yabu on vet minimums. Okay. That's a nice player though. Yeah, Yabu's good.

Jordan Clarkson, there was a clip of Mike Breen roasting him during the game, but I'm sure it'll be fine. So you're gonna get, you're gonna get Mike Brown as your coach, right? Yeah, Mike Brown's gonna be the guy. Is he for officially? He's the only guy coming back for a second interview. Oh, okay. Yeah, I guess Rick Brunson to is still in the running, right? Yeah, and on

Alright, should we talk a little NFL? We had a trade. The Steelers got they traded Minka Fitzpatrick to the Dolphins for Jalen Ramsey. They also got John who Smith, which I think was a separate trade. Correct? Yeah, I think it was the reporting on all of this was a little weird because I don't know how you guys experienced this trade. I experienced it through our good friend Jersey Jerry, who will be on Dingers only with us. He texted me Super Bowl on and was like, I can't believe this trade. And then the reporting came out that so I think Jerry thought they just got Jalen Ramsey.

Yeah, because the way it came out, it was just well, it wasn't even that big cat. The way I found out about it was through Adam Schefter, I have notifications on because I need to know what's going on. So I saw his post about a trade. It said, Jalen Ramsey has been traded from the Miami Dolphins too. And then it was the dot, dot, dot. It cut off right there. I think that Schefter knows exactly how many characters to use

to make people actually click through and look at his tweet instead of just looking at the notification. I think that he's that good. So I saw that, I clicked on that. And then they didn't say what they gave up for it. They didn't say anything about the details of the trade. It just looked like the Steelers were getting Patrick or Jalen

Ramsey. And then it did come out. Yeah, it was actually John Smith was I believe it was in the same trade. Okay, it was make sense. It was Yeah, makes sense. It was. Yeah. Steelers got Ramsey, John Smith, and they swapped 2027 seventh rounder for a 2027 fifth rounder. So they ended up with a fifth round pick in Pittsburgh and Miami ended up with the seventh round pick. Got it. Because if you believe some of the things coming out of the Steelers at the end of last year,

there was belief that possibly Minka Fitzpatrick was the guy who, remember there was that, there was a weird press conference, it was either, I think it was Cam Hayward, I think TJ Watts said something as well, where they were like, it's hard when 10 guys are doing one thing and one guy's doing another and that some people thought might have been Minka

Fitzpatrick. So maybe that maybe that's an addition right there. Just getting him back to the dolphins. I don't know. I thought it was TJ saying that he's the one guy doing the right thing and 10 other guys are all collectively doing the wrong thing. But yeah Minka is a fine safety, but he does freelance from time to time. Ramsey is still a really, really good cornerback. They have Ramsey and Joey Porter Jr. So I think it's all in all, it's good for the Steelers. It feels like this is the Steelers all in season, right? John O'Smith is also like that. He was a really good, he's been a

really good tight end the last couple years so that that part for their offense I feel like is significant is he Pittsburgh though mmm I don't always have to worry about that I don't know if he's a Pittsburgh tight end you got to always worry about that they got Pat Freimuth Pittsburgh tight end he's a guy that you could easily mistake for Heath Miller. Uh, and then you got big ass Washington. I that I'm mostly concerned that Darnell Washington isn't going to be playing as much because whenever he steps on the field, you just look at him and be like, Holy shit, who the fuck is that guy? How is he not the best player in the NFL?

Yeah. I mean, you like Darnell Washington and DK Metcalf lining up on the same side will be like what Bain did to Hinesfield. Like don't just it will just completely tilt. But yeah, I don't I don't know if Darno Washington can catch the ball. That's the only problem. But I do like when he gets on the field. I I like the John New Smith. He was good last year. He's good. He like started to come on. Was it was at the end of Smith. He was good last year. He was good. He like started to come on. Was it was at the end of two years ago and then last year last year he was very good. I feel like he was he was really good. And then and then two years ago I think he like started to pop a little as well.

He had a big season and then the the Dolphins replaced him by getting Darren Waller from the New York Giants. Darren Waller was retired. And so I think they swapped like a sixth and a seventh round pick with the Giants to get a retired guy that was still on their payroll to come down to Miami to play. Yeah, just don't make them fall back. That's the only thing because that clip came out that he basically retired when when the Giants made him be full back in Buffalo for like three, three consecutive plays. He's like, what the fuck am I doing here? The big story though is BFT. We're officially in football month. There is a football game being played this month. I know it's pre-season, but that's really, it just starts to get that. I was, I was walking, I went on a hike with, with my kids today and I'll,

I'll, I'm not ashamed to admit that I started daydreaming about like the first NFL Sunday and I was like, this is going to be awesome. I'm so excited. We're pretty much here. We are pretty much here like July is it's great at the start. We got you know, the fourth of July that whole week feels like just a vacation for America. And then you know, it's hot outside still going to be we're going to be tan from how tan we are right now. We're still going to have that same pantone on our skin. Once football season kicks off, once we get actual live football played. Yes, the Hall of Fame game, but we're going to see all the guys, they're going to be wearing

the jerseys, we see the coaches. It's going to be great. And we're pretty much there. So congratulations. It's going to be great. Should we do Hathi Cool Cool Throne, and then we can get to all of our interviews and dingers only? Yep.

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What would you call it? I'm gambling on games, gambling on games and not insider trading, but like what was the was a hard part of that? It's not insider trading. It's it's called gambling on games gambling on games gambling on games player props The videos that came out after the investigation came out were were very bad to say the least I don't know if it's one of those things where if you you could do this for any player I feel like it's not obviously but the videos that came out were

absurdly obvious that he was probably gambling on games. There was one where he took the ball the full length of the court with like three and a half, four seconds left to cover the spread. And he was the only one out there trying. And you could see like the relief in his face when he got to the other end, there was the other one where, so he had also tweeted at Anthony Edwards to hit, what was it like six threes tonight in a game. There was that one. And then there was another one where he was playing defense where his controller just

unplugged and he had blue by, I think it was Halliburton blue by him. And he didn't move a single one of his feet. Both feet remained firmly planted in the ground. I don't think you could do that with every player in the NBA. And not only that, but I'm sure you guys saw there was like, you know, the gambling circles, like people know and shit gets out there. And there were tweets from like January, whereas like if you're investigating Terry Rozier, like investigate Malik Beasley, he's the one and a lot of that stuff where he is still innocent, but there's

a lot of smoke proven innocent. Yeah, we should say that. So it's like, it's this might not be, you know, it might not be guilty. And the same thing happened when Terry Rozier, the allegations came out, there was videos and it was like, he was clearly gambling. So this could all not be true, but Would you rather? Stay in court. Yeah same would you rather be accused of betting on your own personal unders when you didn't actually bet on your own personal? unders And then being validated and they're like it turns out you just suck or Would you rather get investigated and you did bet on them and you made a ton of money betting on them and they found

Out that you were gambling. Yeah, I mean, I think you can make that much that when you look at free agency Yeah, he's a big player is the greatest Like the greatest lottery ticket you can have obviously you have to be an NBA player But it's like they get paid so much money There's no way you can make enough money gambling that it is worth doing that It is kind of a compliment to be like you're good enough way you can make enough money gambling that it is worth doing that. It is kind of a compliment to be like, you're good enough that you can control the outcome of these things. You know, if you told me it was your own overs. Yeah. If you told me

like, Hey, we're going to play five on five basketball at the Barstool Chicago, uh, like office, and we're going to, we're going to put lines out there. And I had, and like, I wouldn't be good enough to be able to affect the game, you know? Yeah. That's the total point spread. I agree. I could not make a shot. I could bet. Yeah. You could bet your unders and just not make a shot. But other than that, like you can't, it's basically a compliment. Luke Beasley, you are an impactful player. If you're proven guilty.

On the other hand, I feel bad for NBA players. Sure, they make all this money in free agency, get any woman they want, but at the end of the day, they don't get to sit on their couch and hit a four-leg parlay on an NBA game like I do. And they'll never have that joy. That makes me sad. Facts. Yeah, he's not going to get signed now.

That kind of sucks that he was a free agent. Yeah, he's not going to get signed now. That kind of sucks that he was a free agent. Yeah, crazy story. How pissed do you think hockey players are right now? You got to move your free agent if you're hockey. You can't go head to head. What was the coordinates deal? Then he's fine player. But what was his deal? I don't know. I think he got 40. He got 40 million guaranteed. Yeah. Four for 40. I think he's getting paid. Connor McDavid in the money. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Sam Bennett's Sam Bennett's contract. It was like, this was guy was the most important player on the, on the team. He was eight years, eight million. Oh man. Yeah. By the way, the Panthers are going to just going to

be good again. They got everyone. Biz might be right about the state income tax. I also love I'm assuming NBA players the same way, but like, and this is more like we were just with the checklist guys last week, but like I love hearing them talk just strictly money when they talk about other players, like, Oh, how much that guy get? Like how much you make like that? They just stock strictly and like how much they made in their career. Also public. It's very funny. Whitney told us a hilarious story about how when he was like two years out from retiring and he talked to his financial advisor and his financial advisor was like, all right, so like when you retire, like you'll get a job. And he was like, what do you mean? He's like, I wasn't planning on that.

Which is very funny. The Knights got better, too. Yeah, they did. But the Panthers brought everyone back, didn't they? Yeah. It's fucking crazy. Oh, no, there's been a lot of team dinners. I'm going to talk about the exact talk about the Panthers for 20 seconds while I turn on the light in this room, because I realize that it's just pitch black in here. Yeah, that sounds going down. So so I did see the Panthers, they bring all the boys back.

They're there. They're appeared that the whole whole game come back. Do you guys think they're going to be this dominant again? It's going to be that much fun to watch. I like that. Good question. Great question. Zach, they all go to team dinner every night. Like I can't, you can't get in the way of that. I think unless this, they keep cracking the success of their wins. So just like we all went to team dinners together. Unless this aid into their Dairy Queen budget, I think that we're looking at another championship for the Florida Panthers. Hey, congratulations.

It's July 1st. Congratulations to the Florida Panthers on winning the 2026 Lord Stan Lee's Cup. Hank, I think team dinners can be attributed. We eat dinner together a bunch. I know. I didn't realize it until like all the post-game interviews. It was like, yeah, this team, team dinners. It's gonna force some team that absolutely hates each other

to try to do this and it's gonna be so awkward. Cause like a team dinners work in theory if you like everyone, but if they, if, if you have a team thatners work in theory if you like everyone but if they if if you have a team that doesn't like each other it's gonna tear them apart all right your cool thrown my cool thrown is WNBA pettiness yeah Katelyn Clark was voted number one also our team by the fans. Number nine, by our fellow players. I have some takes. Please.

Do you have a take? On the Caitlin Clark situation? Yeah, I have a take. I think that it is good for the league. OK. Because we're talking about the league right now. OK, I agree. I'm going to piggyback on your take.

Tag me in. First, this is about this year. Kailin Clark has missed almost half the games. So I mean, I know that she's incredible and I think she's one of the best players and she's also like the WNBA just expanded. They're bringing back Detroit, Cleveland, And then what's the other one Nashville? Nashville got a franchise. The Caitlin Clark defenders are such losers now. Like what do we care? She's the most popular player. What should her like rivals do? Should they just

be like, Oh, we love you, Caitlin. Thank you so much. We want to kiss your feet and like, and hope you just, of course they don't like her. She's better than them and she's more popular. Like of course they're petty about it. I think that's good for sports. They're trying to hurt her though. The hurting part. I agree. That's too far, but like this is like to be like, this is bullshit. I can't believe they don't like her. I can believe they don't like her. She gets all the attention. They're jealous. Who cares? That's good for sports. Caitlin Clark will have a longer career, better career, make more money. She's going to win in the long run. It doesn't have to be like a World War three every single time. There's a slight on

Caitlin Clark. It just, it loses all of the, uh, like umph for me when you're just, when the Caitlin Clark defenders are crying about her constantly When have we ever cared about the the breakdown of all-star vote percentages in the WNBA? Right as as that ever had we do care now So yeah, is is she worthy of a higher percentage? Probably yeah but she also has been hurt. And it's also good that the league hates her this much because it pisses everyone off and it gets more people

talking about the WNBA. And then she's going to go out there with a chip on her shoulder and she's going to be great. Shove it in their faces and prove to them that she's better. And that's going to be great for the league too. Not only that, but what is like one of the, the, the number one complaints we see online about sports, specifically the NBA, specifically basketball, is all these guys don't hate each other like they used to. They used to hate each other. They used to like the Pistons and Bulls hated each other. The Pistons and Celtics hate each other.

MJ hated Isaiah. All this stuff like hate was what fueled the league. And now you have that back in the WNBA and you're gonna complain about it like who cares they her peers don't like her because she is more popular than them that's just a fact yeah she can just be better and win championships and shove it in their face like I just don't I would not be offended if I was a if I was a Caitlin Clark fan I would not be going to my pitchforks because she was voted ninth in a season

when she's played half the games. Okay. Counterpoint though, isn't it also a sign of the growing league that we have this many Caitlin Clark fans that get this pissed off because it receives lights, right? This is, this is like the Caitlin Clark defenders that have to show up and, and stick up for their person. I think it's all good. I think I think what we're going to see, though, is we're going to see like Caitlin Clark is going to go on a little tear.

She's going to be great. The fever are eventually going to win a championship. She's going to get some players from teams that maybe used to hate her. Can start to win the big one, though. That's a good question. We don't know. I so when she gets like like clotheslined going through the lane, that's what I'm like, yeah, Caitlin Clark defenders. That's when you need to rally the

troops and go after on a vote. Like Tyrese Haliburton was voted most overrated and then he went to the finals. Who cares? You know, I need to see the athletic poll of the WNBA for most overrated player in the league. What do you think? What do you think the result would be? I don't know, but I just there are 90% 95% Caitlin Clark. There are definitely pitchfork moments for Caitlin Clark that are like, yeah, you have to defend her. A vote that essentially it basically should have just been a poll to every WNBA player. Do you like Caitlin Clark? Yes or

no, and they would have voted no because they don't because she gets all the attention and she's good for the league and she outshines everyone even if she's only playing half the games. The injury aspect is actually a valid point. That's a good point. If you're if you're going to go just by a sports breakdown of it, but yeah, there's the the difference between the fan vote and the player vote was crazy. It was crazy to see.

But again, let's let's not burn out all of our emotion. That's what I'm saying. Caitlin Clark right now. There's going to be there's gonna be play. Listen, you got to rest up for the playoffs. Okay. She also if she was not in the All-Star game, I'd like pitchforks do it She's the captain of the all-star team

This was totally irrelevant. It was a completely irrelevant vote. That just doesn't matter Right. I don't even get mad at the hard fouls because I also like Sophie coming him coming to her defense and like knocking people out. That's also good for the league. Yeah, I agree. Well, that is yeah. Did you see Sophie Cunningham take a shot at Detroit? That was a little weird. What'd you say?

She was just like players don't want like why didn't you make a Miami players don't want to play in Detroit. It was like, okay, I don't know Detroit like straights kind of choice kind of back in terms of sports and now we're going to Haas that that's going to see hostile. That's going to be on a quote card right before they play against Detroit to playoff series at some point. Yeah, also the other team was Philly and those teams aren't

coming till 2030. Okay, so yeah, oh Philly's the other team not now. Yeah, that's what she said. National. She's like, why didn't you go in national? Why did she? She's basically like, why don't you put in national? Why didn't you? She's basically like, why don't you put them in party cities? I don't know. I get it.

Detroit love their sports. Do you how successful do you think a WNBA franchise would be in Miami? Probably not that. They can barely. They can barely get out of bed to watch their Stanley Cup champion Panthers. Yeah, I'm pretty sure Detroit won like three WNBA championships, right? You fact-check that like three or four weren't they a dynasty? What was the way to lampere the coach? Am I making all this up? I think the land bear was they were Lisa Leslie. Yeah

No Bill and beer I remember the NBA when they would do the All-Star game and it would be like the WNBA player. Yeah, the NBA team. So there's history there. It's big history there. Detroit's back. Scubal. Did you guys watch Scubal on Sunday night?

Yeah, it was lights out. What a fucking haas. Detroit shock. What? Yeah, three time WNBA champions. You go. I know my WNBA history. Two? Yeah, three time WNBA champions. There you go. I know my WNBA history. 203 206 208. No one's ever said it like that. 206 203. Why did

you say it? Alright, Pft. What your hot seat cool throw? Uh my hot seat is Shador Sanders. Yes. So, the the quarterback room in Cleveland right now is Joe Flacco. Can you pick it Dylan Gabriel Shador? And everyone's kind of looking for Joe Flacco to take on some sort of mentorship position, some sort of leadership role for the young guys. I think Joe Flacco is more concerned about just winning a starting job and keeping his career going. But lucky for

Shador Sanders, he found a mentor in Cleveland that's taking him quote under his wing. Do you know who that person is? I do. It is Deshaun Watson. Deshaun Watson has stepped up to show the young guy the ropes. I that's a bad phrase. I should not have used that phrase. He's taking him under his wing to kind of, you know, introduce him to the NFL and what it's like to be a pro.

Show him the meaning of being a true professional. So shout out to Chador. Got a good mentor there. Good luck. Good luck. I don't know if this is like a contractual obligation where they're like, hey, Deshawn, I know you're not really playing right now, but if you could kind of hang out with the young guys and lead by example.

You think this is maybe a situation like who saved who? Like an old person getting a pet? Yeah, it could be. Who saved who here? It could be like that. That type of responsibility might be good for Deshaun. Also, if Chador is literally under his wing all the time, then he's not going to be getting jacked off in massage parlors because the

beds aren't wide enough. So that's good. Well, she door. But the bed's not wide enough for the door could go skiing. He could. Yeah, should or could be should or it could be the lucky Pierre in between Deshaun Watson and Joe Flacco. Just going to town. Joe, I'll tell you this. I've shaken Joe Flacco's hand. I would not want a hand job from him. No. Guy's got fucking monster hands. No, he's meant to beat off in cold weather. That's why the Steelers and the Ravens won him out of college.

If Joe Flacco gives you a hand job, he'd just be like, whoops, I broke it. Yeah. This guy's got hands that could jack off a Clevelander. We got it. We got to tell Joe that we had this conversation when we see him maybe in Tahoe. I mean, shake his hand, shake his hand. Tell me, tell me if if that could make you come the answer is not rush more of people you would least like to get your hand job from. He's Andre the giant.

Greg Abbott. No, not Greg Abbott. Jason Pierre Paul. Who's Greg Abbott? The pitcher. No, that's the politician, isn't it? Oh, Jim Abbott. Jim Abbott.

Also, Greg Abbott. He's probably got some strong arms. Yeah. That Indian dude with the like hundred year fingernails. Yeah. Yeah. The ones that curl around. That would suck. That would really suck.

All right. Your cool throw. My cool throw is the US men's national team. The lads. Boys, we're in the semifinals now of the CONCACAF gold cup. Hank is locked in. I know you watched that PK shootout against Costa Rica. The good news is we got a goalie now. His name is Freeze. He's the Ice Wall. Oh, that's actually, that plays. Yeah. The goalie's name is Freeze and he was awesome in PKs. He was a beast. What I didn't realize though is once we got rid of Greg, because we were a Greg Out podcast, we got Greg fired,

there's another burr halter. His son is on the team, but his son is on the team because I think he just made the team, not through nepotism. Oh, but he also missed a penalty kick. He barged you at a penalty kick, top left and, and skied it. So I don't know, maybe we might be all burr, halters out now. Was Greg there? Greg was in the stands like upper deck. They had him sitting like in the 400 row and he was watching his son take the penalty kick and they got the whole reaction. Tough moment

for a dad and a family to watch at the same time. But listen, I think Greg Berhalter, way better human being than a soccer coach. Yeah, totally. So he was in the stands for that. So that means that we beat Costa Rica. We're playing Guatemala in the semifinals tonight. Tonight, Hank, locked the fuck in two teams. Who are the other two teams? Mexico and some team that's going to lose to Mexico. So we're going to what's going to happen. Is this your first conca calf gold cup

pack? What's going to happen is not by not by not like not willingly. You're not consenting to this. No, no, no. Let me break it down for you, Hank. Here's how the Concacaf Gold Cup works. All right. The U.S. is going to play against Mexico in the finals. We're going to beat Mexico in the finals and we're all going to be like U.S. soccer's back. We're good.

And then we're going to blow it again in the next tournament that we play automatically in the World Cup. Who cares? Agreed. It's the pageantry and the spectacle of the Gold Cup, Hank. Got it. In Saudi Arabia is in this? So yeah, they're a famed CONCACAF member. I think Qatar was in it last time too. Yeah. We just let anyone in it.

The bag's big too. Yeah, we just let anyone in it. Just hang it out big enough. Yeah. Yeah. All right. My hot seat. I also had a Shador Sanders out. I'll pivot. It's my cell.

We're not doing a fire face this week. Reminder, we don't have a show Friday on 4th of July. This is an extra long show. So if you have to work Friday, save dingers only for yourself. We have two great interviews coming up. Zach gallon and Merrill Kelly in studio and then Joey Chestnut. So extra long show and then we'll be back three times a week, obviously on Monday. But my fire fest, or sorry, my hot seat is me.

I went to dinner with my wife last night and there was a couple fans. There was like a table of young kids that were like asked me for a picture and I was like, Oh, that's cool. And then there was this table with with this guy with his big beard and older and I and he like was like, What's up? Love your podcast like, Oh, that's sick. And I mentioned my wife, I was like, Look at me, like, we're doing the the young kids were doing the old guys. And she's like, that guy is the exact same age as you. And I had like the moment where I was like, fuck, he totally is.

Because he had a beard. I was just like, and I had one of those moments where it was like, oh, yeah, I forgot I'm 40. He was key, looked exactly the same age. That's great. I got the old guys. I got the young guys. So yeah, that's some.

Yeah, we are old. We're old. We're old. Yeah, I'll see. Another guy came and he had like two little kids and he was like big fan. I was like, Oh man, like look at this. I'm getting getting the older generation like wait, those kids are the exact same age as my kids. Fuck. What the hell. Yeah, go ahead. Anybody older than Hank is is old. Yeah, that's the way to look at it. Yeah. And then my cool throne is dudes named Ryan. Because this happened a few days ago. I think it happened last week.

But ESPN had an article about it. Did you guys see the Ryan's day out in Colorado? It was pretty fucking awesome. So the Rockies have three Ryans on the roster. I think they actually have a fourth who's on IL. And there's a group of Ryans who just like do meetups around the country and they tried to break the record for most Ryans at a baseball game. There was like 500 Ryans out in the bleachers and then Ryan McMahon on the Rockies hit a home run for him. And it was just like such a dudes rock moment where they just

have they have they just basically go around They did a St. Ryan's day in Boston. They did another, another random Ryan's outing. They just get all the Ryan's and they all just meet up. I like that. That is very cool. Do you think that you said the Rockies have four Ryan's if three currently on the roster, one is on the I L I L. Do you think if two of the other Ryan's go on the I L they'll send Tom Hanks there to pull the last one out and save them? No, they'll send Ryan day. It was then Ryan day out there, but yeah, it was, I mean, I don't know. It's pretty cool. Like yeah, world's kind of a cynical place. These people are just hanging out and they actually have, when you go, you have to show your ID to confirm that you're a Ryan,

by the way, our guy, we're still not invited. It has to be R Y A N. And they also have like, they have like a notary public guy there who can legally change your name to Ryan if you want to join. Oh, if you want to, if you want to just be part of the festivities, that's, I like that. But also there should be somebody that there should be somebody that monitors the Ryan's to make sure that they all go by Ryan. Yeah. Cause Ryan is probably a pretty commonly skipped first name for people that just go by their middle name.

That's true. They had a, so they had a St. Ryan's day in Boston. They had a Ryan rodeo in Austin. They had an all Ryan's game show in San Diego. They just party with just Ryan's. It's fucking awesome. I like that. Yeah. Um, all right, Zach, finish this off before we get to our interviews. Uh, I do, I do have a cool throne for you guys this week. My cool throw in the hot seat. Oh, we can go hot seat first.

Yeah, we can do that. So my hot seat this week is recently gentlemen, we all played Dungeons and Dragons. It did come out in the last couple of days. I did see that in the moment while we were playing together, I did not realize just how indecisive I may have been in some of the decisions going back and watching the game film and I would like to say Hank. I do want to apologize for contributing to messing up your birthday. That's okay

It's not your fault I didn't know how bad some of that went and I just want you to know Hank I'm sorry, and I hope it was a great birthday after that man It was a great birthday and I don't want you to worry about it for a second. It was funny and I do have a hot seat as well. I didn't think big I was paying you to do that at one point, but that's so mad at me There was no no hand-to-hand transactions on that that was just a misstep Zack in terms of like watching the YouTube and seeing how the, uh, the costume shopping went for Dungeons and Dragons, any,

any decisions you would have made a little bit differently there? Are you happy the way things turned out? Most of them? I, you guys didn't have full costumes. That's a hundred percent on me. I dropped the ball. It's okay. We listen, we play Dungeons and Dragons, by the way, thank you for everyone who listens to that episode. Shout out to Tim Woods. We play it twice a year, uh, around our vacations. And so you'll have another chance sometime in February, you'll have another chance on the costumes. Yes, on the costume. So I would love

redemption costume if that's okay with you. Can we keep the time limit? Oh, no, no, no, no, no. The time limit starts tomorrow. Yeah. Same costume shop, right? Is that cool? Yes. I think, I think we, we stick to, he gets an hour. He's got to get it done in an hour. He's got to get it done in an hour. We also should next Dungeons and Dragons. We should get one of those sand timers for Zach. Yes. Yes. That's great. We walk in, we get an hour sand timer. And once it starts, that's it. But also in the game too, when we make a decision, you just flip it and just be like, all right Zach, here we go.

I'm going to become hyper away of time, I promise gentlemen. No, I don't want you to change. I don't want you to change. Okay. I think that too. I can work on that. PFT, you bounced out for a second Zach decided that he was gonna work on being more decisive than I told him don't change and he's gonna also work on that Okay, which one are you gonna work on first?

The decision is I'm gonna I'm gonna lock that in for you guys I don't know you're right. No, I got that wrong. I got that wrong the timing stuff Yes You're right. No, I got that wrong. I got that wrong. Uh, the timing stuff. Uh, yes. That was a, that was a brain fart. Yeah. That was good. That was good. Which one are you going to work on first? Yes. Okay. Uh, your cool throne. I do have a cool front for you guys. Uh, my cool throne this week goes out to, uh, the gentlemen at Optic Texas. They defeated the Vancouver surge or CDO. They are called duty world champions and called duty black ops six. Uh, gentlemen at Optic Texas, they defeated the Vancouver Surge or CDO.

They are called duty world champions and called duty black ops six. Uh, shot to those guys. Uh, first ever in history, back to back champions. I'm not even an optic guy, but you can't deny greatness. That's so awesome. Mercury Lee's coming up. They did some roster cuts earlier in the season. Another one doing too good. Kenny got dropped. They picked up Mercury Lee's system shifts around. He went MVP shout to the young guy everybody just frying it was fantastic hook Shotzi dashy all the boys congratulations Mercolese back to back never been done is Mercolese next is he he's the new

goat he's he's good I wouldn't say new go he's got a lot a lot long way to go but he was a great contributor to the team. Uh, didn't he get drawn from the stallions? He is a little bit of redemption. Yes. We great ball. No, he's there. Hank fantastic. They get him off the street. He's getting dropped and picked up, but now he's with the boys. Now he's with the hitters. Hex picked him up. Daddy Hex said, look, come over to the green wall. We're going to show you how to do it right.

And they might just wait. Daddy Hex said, look, come over to the green wall. We're going to show you how to do it right. And they might do it again next year. Wait, Merculeez, that, like to merc someone is to kill them. So that's an incredible nickname, right? Oh, it's awesome, mashup. Hercules, Merc, Merculeez, fantastic. It's 10. OK, yeah.

That's a great nickname. Wait, Zach, did you watch it live? I didn't. I wasn't able to catch all of it, but I've watched all the clips since then,. Okay. Zach I got a question for you in this Call of Duty tournament is all the players like in relatively good shape. This is Super Bowl BFC. This is a regular tournament. Okay alright World Championship are all the players in really good shape? Mentally or physically?

Physically like is there are there any big boys that are playing? I mean, mentally or physically? Physically. Like, are there any big boys that are playing? I mean, yeah, there's some big boys at the desk. Hank is like, yeah, for sure. Because in my day, that's how you identify. A gamer usually had a little heft to him. And from what I've been seeing with the advent of speed and ADHD medication, it feels like all the guys are real thin. And I would like to see some of the bigger boys coming back. I don't think I think the heftiness

isn't going anywhere anytime soon but maybe some of these guys maybe dial back on the Ritalin a little bit you know maybe get some more carbs in them. They're all short. That's pretty cool. The posture is not the best but those fast twitch muscles immaculate. Is there a tall fat guy that we could call Kendrick Merkens? That'd be good. Not on optic, but I can find you the tallest fat guy they got in the CDL right now. Okay. Oh, PFT, I had a short king stat for you. Fuck. That's weird because I'm not that short actually. No, you're not. But I had a stat for you and I saw it and I was like, Oh, I'm gonna save this. Fuck. I don't think I have it. But I Oh, no, I have it. Here it is. Jose Altuve 242

career home runs. Every other player listed five, six or shorter since integration 241 home runs. So he's he's lapped the crew. He's literally the pound for pound greatest. He stands head and shoulders above the crew. Yeah, yeah. Everyone else combined 24 greatest. He stands head and shoulders above the crew. Yeah. Yeah, everyone else combined 241 he had 242 good for him pretty sick Okay, let's get to our interviews Merrill Kelly Zack gallon Joey chestnut and then our Dingers only draft Which I'll just say it not our never our best work, but still

It was actually way better than last year's. Last year's. We called some of the players too. Yeah, we got some of the players on the phone. And also last year, we drafted a lot more players that had already been taken. And we drafted a lot more players that were already injured, like on the disabled list.

So I'd say in terms of getting it right for the most part, I'd say we hit like 80%. Yeah. And also, Zach, realizing his decisiveness might be an issue, we did tape this last week before he realized that. So it might still be an issue in this draft. And as of right now, we're all live. So all the teams are live.

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being a truck person, Chevy Silverado, tell them Big Cat sent you with the Chevy Silverado. Okay, here they are, Zach Galin and Merrill Kelly. Okay, we now welcome on two very special guests from the Arizona Diamondbacks. It's Zach Gallen, Merrill Kelly. Best friends. Let's start there. I was reading that you guys are best friends. Are you both saying that the other one is your best friend? Yeah, sure.

I would say so. Of course. Merrill said that a lot faster than you, Zach. Well, I don't want to talk over him. Okay. Yeah, that's best. That's a best friend trait. It's like you don't want to talk over.

Are we talking best friends on the team or best friends in life? that's a best friend trait is like you don't want to talk over. Are we talking best friends on the team or best friends in life? Let's talk best friends in life. Uh, oh, I mean, I feel like we both have circles outside of baseball. Yeah. Okay. Trump, but, but on the team, for sure. Best friends on the team. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We've been together. We've been in their longest. We both had been here since nine, 2019. So, okay. It's been a long time. Okay. So if we played the newlywed game right now, you guys would be really good at it? That's a good question.

That is a good question. Good question. If it was the baseball, like a baseball version of that, I think we'd be all right. All right, so what- Or golf, or golf, yeah. What's Merrill's favorite pitch, Zach? Change it.

Okay, what's Zach's favorite pitch? Kerbal. Okay, is that right? Sounds like you guys are good so far. What's Zach's favorite movie? Okay, is that right? Sounds like you guys are good so far. What's what's Zach's favorite movie? Zach's favorite movie. Yeah, that one would probably stump me. I don't even know if I know the answer favorite movie That's perfect. You guys are in sync Merrill who's the guy that absolutely owns Zach in the league? Yeah

There I in the league? Yeah. There. I don't know. If you get this, it would be impressive, actually. Oh, so someone we're not thinking. Yeah. I'll give you a hint. They're not active. That's it. They're not ever. They were tired. Some guy on the Savannah bananas. I want to hang him up.

If that was the case. I don't know if they're retired, but they're just not in the majors anymore. Got it. We used to play him a lot in division. Yeah Charlie Blackman, yeah, who is it? Rymell Tapia? Oh, and what was the reason I should have known that? Rymell Tapia? I think last time I faced him was

2023 maybe in Milwaukee. And I swear to you, I think it was like, he's hitting 600 off me, like 12 for like 20, like whatever that math comes out to be, 10 for 19. And I'm like, oh, at least I never get up a home run to him, give up a home run to him that day. So he's got to- But what is that?

Well, that guy killed us real good. Is it in your head or is it something he just figured out? I think it's just something that he does. Like he just 10 for 18 with a home run and two RBI's and 19 plate appearances. Yeah, it's gallon. That's pretty damn good. And if you do the AI, the AI overview says Rymell Tapia has had considerable success against Zach Callan and considerable. Considerable is an understatement.

Yeah. If you ask me. Yeah. Like here comes this fucking. Considerable. Considerable is an understatement, I think, if you ask me. Yeah. I'm like, here comes this fucking guy again. All right. So who owns... I would imagine if you looked up his numbers against the Diamondbacks in general, they'd probably be... They play really good.

Yeah. Who owns Merrill? We were just talking about this. Fuck. We were just talking about this. Someone who's still in the big leagues. I know. We just played them too, right?'s still in the big. I know we just played them too. Right.

Give me a guess. You can guess the team. The team should be pretty obvious. Yeah, you just said it. You're like, I don't understand. I'm drawing a blank. No, you're thinking of the guy that. I think shouldn't be me that does. Oh, who's that? But the guy who owns me is different than that guy. Wait, who's who? I'm like, I'm not going to beat you. I'm not going to beat you. I'm not going to

beat you. I'm not going to beat you. I'm not going to beat you. I'm not going to beat you. I'm not going to beat you. I'm not going to beat you. I'm not going to beat you. I'm not going to beat you. I'm not going to

beat you. I'm not going to beat you. I'm not going to beat you. I'm not going to beat you. I'm not going to beat you. I'm not going to beat you. I'm not going to beat you. I'm not going to beat you. I'm not going to

beat you. I'm not going to beat you. I'm not going to beat you. I'm not going to beat you. I'm not going to beat you. I'm not going to beat you. It's the way he gets you you're like this. Yeah This guy got me again every single time I watch him I'm like, there's no way this guy's getting hit off me every single time He does he'll drop one in for two RBI blooper over the second baseman's head Knock me out of the game sometimes but yeah, all right. So who's the answer to who owned you? I don't I can't think of who it is LA Freddie Mookie close from Freddie probably does too, but Muncie I can't think of who it is. LA.

Freddie? Mookie? Close. Freddie probably does too, but Muncie. No! Muncie. I wouldn't have guessed that. We went on a family vacation with my wife's family and her uncle's pretty funny. He puts together like these gift bags for everybody, but in there there's like a dark joke for everyone, right? Like, and he literally hand typed a letter

from Max Muncie to me, and the Dodgers thanking me for my services against the Dodgers. But I think Muncie is probably hitting, I would guess 500 off me, something like that. Okay. And Merrill, what's what basketball sports employee has the most unhealthy obsession with Zach? That's a good question. Do you know that? Yeah, I'm not the one to ask about that. There's a few teammates that would get this right. I don't know that he would know this.

Yeah. Okay. So, but there's a handful of guys that would right off the bat would be like, I know exactly who you're talking to. Who's that guy? That'd be Rico. Yeah. So, so this is a real topic we have to talk about be like, I know exactly who you're talking to. And who's that guy? That'd be Rico. Yeah. So this is a real topic we have to talk about, because, Zach, I obviously was busting your balls when we were walking in being like, oh, I'd love to see you in a Cubs uniform. I won't push any rumors, but you are in a contract year,

so it's got to be like, it's got to be in your head a little bit. Do you think, if Scott Boris walks in and is like, hey, Zach, we're ready to get a new contract, but this guy Rico, he's bringing us down and teams are going to see this relationship and they're going to be like, you know what? The price went down. I mean, you have to, you have to cut them loose because he does. It is bad for you. How much he rides for you. And he, he turtles when you have a bad game. Does he really? Yes. That was the big, well, I respect that at least. I mean, he's just so ride or die. He's so ride or die. I don't think he would literally murder you for NATO. So you don't mean anything

in the grand scheme in the grand scheme of it. Yeah, this is a good point. And I never thought that I would be over NATO. So I'm fine with that. Okay. So I don't think he actually rides as hard for you as you think that he does. I think that this season he's kind of gotten off cuz oh, he's definitely gotten off. Yeah, so because I'm probably losing a money this year The first start of the year March 27th happy gallon day to all who celebrate that's what he posted then your next start happy gallon day So who celebrate your next start happy gallon day to all who celebrate? He hasn't done that since April 7th. Oh, no. Well, I haven't pitched good since April 7th. So that's probably why he's probably like, I'm losing money every time this guy's out here. So we're happy gallon day. But to be fair, he was, he was at least riding for whatever it was. Yeah, it was a long time. Yeah, we got a bus

as well, but it was, I think it was the NLCS where I think game one where you got touched up a little Yeah, and then he he went silent and then he when you guys won game three He went after max and it was like dude. Where were you game one? He does that he goes silent on Twitter when things go don't go his way and then game seven. Yeah Yeah, are you guys I mean that did not even that come game seven. I mean he that was an all-time meltdown He looked ridiculous you guys I've heard you talk about Merrill because you grew up a little bit in the area, but like the Max was just convinced

that the bank was gonna win that series. He was like, they can't go and win two at the bank. There's no way. Because we're pitching against the crowd? Yeah, yeah. That is how he thinks. He's like, you're all match. I think it actually would have been easier

to pitch against the crowd if we're being honest. Yeah. Yeah. Some guys that are yelling at us, we bring them down into the box and see how it goes. I don't know, dude. He was the Matt Stairs of the CIA baseball, Hofstra. So he could probably take one off you guys.

Maybe we should make that happen one of these times. We should make that happen. But you play the Hofstra. Bring you Eric Sim out, and we'll make a whole thing out of it. He does have to pitch against a college lineup at some point. Yeah. Because he lost for fantasy baseball league last year.

Do you have any advice for him? Pitcher to pitcher? How should he approach that lineup? What lineup are you facing? We don't know yet because Max keeps putting the punishment off. It was supposed to be Tennessee and then we had a couple of rainouts. And then I broke my foot on a whatever. We don't have to get into how I broke my foot. He broke his foot being drunk.

Just walking home. That sounds a little intentional. It sounds like you're trying to get out of it. No, I mean maybe. Do you have any pitching background? No. We got a radar gun out. I think I was topping out at like 62 at the moment Yeah, I might actually be good for you. Yeah, I know that's below the hit speed. That's what scoobal said Yeah, through like 85. I'd be like they would like my one away

Yeah, pft did it against uic baseball only give up what to earn runs to yeah earned runs asterisks. I balked a lot Yeah, I'd like for innings? Two innings. Two innings. Okay. Struck a guy out. Big cat threw out the strike at it first. I dropped the third strike but still threw him out at first. So it's like we both got a strike. Yeah. Yeah. Which is the stupidest rule in baseball. Yeah. I love it. I love it. It's so stupid. Really? You think that's the you swing in a pitch

that's that bad that that is yes that bad and then just because the ball like bounced away, you get to go to first base. Yeah, you gotta catch it. Participation truck is what I thought. Think about it. Like I literally made you swing at a pitch that didn't even make it to the plate.

It was that bad and you get to run to first base. It still counts as a K though for you. Yeah. If we get them, yeah. Yeah, so you could get, think about it this way, you could get unlimited Ks in a game. Think about If we get them. Yeah. Yeah. So you could get, think about it this way. You could get unlimited case in a game. That is a good thing about the positive way. I've made that joke before. I'm like, you just wanted me to get another strikeout, right? That's why I miss that one for punches. And yeah, when you guys like, so Zach, was it, when would, when did you have your 13 strikeout game against the Yankees? Was it last year?

No, this year. It was this year. Yeah. In April. Did you? I was probably right after that guy stopped, right before that guy stopped tweeting. Yeah, Rico. Yeah. When you, like, do you know when you have it like that on a given day or how fast during the game are you like, oh shit, it's different today? Yes and no.

I mean, there's been games where I've, I go back, there was a game against the Dodgers where in the bullpen I felt like shit. I'm like, well, let's see games where I've I go back to those games against the Dodgers where in the bullpen, I felt like shit. I'm like, well, see what's going to happen today. And then one to punch in like 12 or 13 that day. So, like, you don't really know until the games going on. And in that Yankees game, I didn't know that I had 13 case like stuff was just moving how I wanted it to. They were swinging to pitches that I wanted them to.

So it kind of worked out. But I'd say like probably by like the third inning, you're like, okay, like everything's kind of working how I wanted to. Like you've been through the lineup like one time. You're like, all right, I got a pretty good idea of what's going on. Do you think the rec specs help you? Because you do look like a nerd and like guys don't take you as serious. It's like opposite intimidate. Yeah, right. Uh, no way can this nerd strike me out. Yeah, that's probably probably how I was going to have the long hair. Yeah. The long hair. Yeah, it's, uh, yeah. The, the astigmatism that's, that's what I'm talking it up to. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe it's a reverse kind of intimidation thing. Yeah.

Have you guys noticed the stitches on the ball being any different this year? I just talked about this the other day. The drag you seen that? Yeah, I don't drag set for you guys have to say you don't notice it. I haven't. I honestly haven't noticed it. To be honest, I give them some far home runs this year, so I must be using different balls. They must just have the ones specifically for when I'm pitching and the other low drag ones. I mean, I will say the last couple of years, I mean, I'll get balls back that

are exit Vila like 73 miles an hour and the whole half of it is just dented. Like the whole half is just lopsided when you get it back. And balls that aren't even like scorched, it'll be like a little jam shot pop up and I'll get it back and the whole half will just be like cut off. The other thing I'm interested in with like how they prepare the balls is the mud that gets put on them

So do you have like a specific way that you guys like to have your balls handled? We actually give our ball We actually give our bullpen catchers a lot of shit for this because they're the ones in charge of rubbing our balls up Yeah, yeah, uh some days they don't rub our balls that good. Yeah, and some days they're a little dry Yeah, so we tell them to get a little bit more moisture on the balls. Yeah, it's a little bit better But I like that. Yeah, yeah, if you pull one out and it's a little chalky. It's like, uh, come on, come on, man. Yeah. Take some more time rubbing those balls, please. What that mouth do. Wait. So Merrill, you, you, you were the, I think you're the only pitcher to

pitch in the world series in the Korean world series. Is that correct? I think I saw that somewhere. That's crazy. That's wild. fun. So what was it like pitching in Korea? Awesome. Like, is it just the same game? Like is it, the talent level? Pretty much, yeah, the talent level was getting there. When I was there, it was still to be desired a little bit. Like there were guys that could play in the big leagues

all the way to guys that probably wouldn't even sniff the field on my junior college team. Really? And anywhere in between that. The game pretty much is the same, right? Once you get in between the white lines, it's the same. There's a smoke break after the fifth inning. They do a fifth inning break rather than a seventh inning break

because obviously Koreans just pound cigarettes. Yeah. So the fifth inning break is funny. All the starters will come off and they'll go pound their cigarette and all the bench guys and the relievers will go out in the field and stretch and run around and warm up and stuff. And then we'll come back out and all the bench guys and the relievers will go out in the field and stretch and run around and warm up and stuff. And then we'll come back out and resume the game. That's where and you were on the Wyverns, right? Yeah.

Do you know what is a Wyvern? It's like a mythical dragon. Yeah. So that's the way to describe it. I think we play Dungeon and Dragons a couple of times a year and yeah, yeah. Whenever you're feeling risky, we do it on the show. Yeah. Okay. And our Dungeon Master, Tim Woods is obsessed with wyverns. OK. The wyvern is actually the purest form of the dragon. Something to do with like the wings and

the legs. You think he's an SK fan or what? Maybe. Maybe we need to get him a SK jersey. Get him. I don't know if they make them anymore. They sold. They're said this is a different team now. But so when you're playing in Korea and you're going up against a guy that you said like probably wouldn't even play junior college ball. Do you have to like lock yourself in more when you're facing that guy? Because you're like, I can't, I can't let up a hit to this guy that sucks. Honestly, I just try to throw it right down the middle and want them to hit it because they're pesky over there. They'll just foul shit off until they die.

So I would rather just, here's a first pitch fastball. If you hit it the best you can, it might make it to the outfielder. And otherwise it's gonna just bloop into somebody's glove. So I'm just gonna give you a first pitch heater and hopefully move on. And then focus back on the guys that can actually play. Yeah, basically.

Yeah. Do you guys miss batting? Were you still? No. Batting was the best. No, batting was the worst. Oh, so awesome. No, but home runs like by batting was the best. No batting was so worse. The world nobody home runs like by a pitcher was so cool.

So cool. Yeah, it was the only time that the pitcher hitting was good was they'd come up with like bases loaded one out and like a big spot and you're like, oh, thank God. I can either get a strike out here or a double play. Unless you're facing like the couple of guys that could hit. But for the most part, like my dad used to get, he would be like, swing the bat. I'm like, dad, they don't pay me any more or less

if I'm getting hit. All I can do is get hurt. That's all I can do. I remember you and bum got into it that one day at BP. Cause that's his argument. Like they don't pay me to hit. And you know, mad bum was a good hitter. He liked to hit homers.

So he like really took pride in it. So the fact that he said that like really offended. He got mad at you? Yeah, he got mad. Because this was no, they literally do pay you to hit. This is when they were like negotiating between the DH or no DH, whatever they were doing. And I just was like, all you can do out there is get hurt.

Like I just saw the total downside of it. And I like was a decent hitter. I could bunt. So like I was fine. It was just more of like, this seems like an occupational hazard that can be taken away. And you did. You ended up breaking your arm. Yeah. And then I had a hairline fracture in my elbow. Wait, from bunting?

From taking BP in the cage. One of the first weeks in spring training, I was like, oh, this doesn't feel right. They couldn't figure out what it was. And then finally we got an MRI. And they were like, you have a tiny hairline fracture in your elbow. Oh, shit. So you're never gonna take BP again. I haven't, I took it that year because we were hitting, but like I had to be like, I had to bunt the first like two months of that season

because they didn't want me to swing. It was like a, yeah, it was a whole thing. Wait, was Bumgarner, like was he actually pissed? Cause that's a guy you don't want to have pissed at you. I'm not sure. I think he was like 60, 40. I think he was trying to give me like the young guy like rookie like kind of hazing type of deal But also it was like I want to keep hitting. Yeah. Yeah, he was upset Yeah, what is the rookie hazing in in major league baseball? I feel like it's just like we're weird costume

Yeah, nowadays it's nothing really. Yeah damn how society's gone. It's like it's gone Yeah, you can't really do that much anymore. Like the last probably thing is like to have bring beers on the bus Would you say yeah, oh man, that's real every once in a while Yeah, exactly every once in a while somebody might get up there and sing we might you know Have somebody get up there and tell their life story and sing, but even there's a couple of guys that don't really like that either. So it doesn't really much, there's not really much of that that goes on anymore,

at least in our organization. That's the only organization I've been with. So I can't speak for other teams. I don't know what they do, but as far as we go, there's not really much. You should just have Rico come on the road with you and be like the hazing is you have to stay in a room with him. Sleep talks, he like screams in his sleep.

Night terrors. Yeah, he has night terrors. I've seen some of that from Survivor Tours. That would be awesome. You're with Rico. What are the night terrors? He screams. So he sleeps with the lights on.

He screams in the middle of the night and he plays show tunes on his speakerphone. Yeah, that's not real. There's no way. That's how he sleeps every night. He falls asleep to show tunes. Yeah, the rent soundtrack. I had to share a room with him for a couple of nights and I couldn't believe

any of the rent. I'm so ran. Yeah, no, I didn't have a sleep mask on or anything. It was just like, this is this can't be real. It's just raw dog. People were all dog flights. You were just raw dog and sleep. I was raw dog in Rico. Yeah. Yeah. And and trying to fall asleep in that environment is miserable. It's challenging.

It's like you can't believe that this is real human being. that's no wonder he's fucking crazy. And I love him, but he's, he's nuts because he stays up all night screaming and listening to show tunes. Does Rico know the rent, uh, soundtrack like by heart? Probably. I don't know. It's probably absorbed into his brain. Yeah. Right. Like I was like, what is the osmosis? Yeah. He probably like, yeah. Like he went to see rent and like like, you know, the lead got sick He could like jump on and just be like I got In Korea, did you ever get to see the bunting Derby I was a part of it you were part of it That's it to me. That's some YouTube out there somewhere

I don't know but MLB needs to incorporate the bunter be into the all-star Crowd I love watching it. Yes. So what was that? Like what what did they have you do doing that? It was cool cuz my I flew my brother over my brother came over for the all-star game So he's the one actually threw to me But yeah They just have these three targets set up one to the left side one of the like down the first base side and then one Right in the middle and you just yeah, just like it sounds you just bought you try to get it in the target Yeah, how'd you do?

Uh, I did all right. I didn't win. My brother was a little amped up was firing him in there a little bit a little too hard. He was a little excited. And then we we do it and we watch the next guys come up and like they're literally just like lobbing these balls in there and these guys are just like softly tapping and placing them in there. Yeah, we are. We didn't we didn't talk strategy before that They gotta bring that to major league baseball. It used to be in trouble a derby Oh, yeah in the triple a all-star game. They would do it in 18 I was in it really and I was like this is yeah, it was To your point like the BP was coming in too fast. I'm like there you can't stop this. No, it doesn't Yeah, I mean, I just think it would be the most electric thing to gamble on

Yeah, I mean, I just think it would be the most electric thing to gamble on. Yeah, I could see that. I could see that. Because then you're trying to look up stats of like, all right, this guy actually a good bunter and written like the games. Yeah. You take that into the bunting. Yeah. Every time you make contact, like I'm watching to see where the ball is going to land. You have a good like five, six second rush of adrenaline watching on TV, be like, Oh, that's going to be great. Yeah. How much of your guy's success is pitchers do you owe to Dan Heron? And is it all? Why are you laughing?

Yeah, I was just it. I was surprised it took this long to get it. Yeah, I mean, we gave it. We give it. We give him all this. All the credit. You tell me if that's wrong. But he is a genius.

Yeah, I talked to Dan a lot. What does he do actually? Because I actually don't like in real honestly, I don't think he does anything. He puts together he writes up all of our scouting reports. Okay, all the starting pitchers, scouting reports, Dan is the one about the other lineup. Yes. And he's really good at that. Yeah, that's pretty sick. Yeah, he's an awesome dude. He's the best Yeah, he's he uh, he puts good reports together Sometimes too good. What does that mean? Like there's so much information on there. They're like, yeah Mike Dan, how did you how'd you find this number? Yeah, like and then I gotta go look at it and be like damn He found I don't know how I found that number

Does he come out like every now and then and like actually like talk to you guys about pitching? Cause I know he still lives in California. So he was just in Colorado, Colorado. Yeah. Does he give you like tips? Cause it Dan's career is like fascinating because he basically, he was such a stud and then obviously got hurt with his back, but then continued to, you know, be in the MLB for a really long time. Yeah. Where he basically pitched two different ways. Yeah Yeah so he kind of knows everything about pitching it would seem like. Yeah the cool thing about Dan is that he always just like it's now I'm he never wants

to bring like make it about him. He's like I'm not going to talk about like what I did. Yeah like if you got questions he's got I'll try and answer them. Yeah which I think is cool because people who play a long time could be like you know me me me I did this I did that and it's like he's like do your thing if any questions like I'll answer questions if you want me to yeah That's why we give a lot of credit credit because we know it makes me uncomfortable He's not that he's not that type of guy at all. We like to really give him a lot of credit So much credit you guys should give him a lot of credit just to make him uncomfortable We do we do get a lot of credit like you wouldn't be here without him right now. Yeah, so much Haven't said it in a while. I love you man. Just want to say thank you

He'll get uncomfortable yeah, he'll definitely get uncomfortable. That's how his pugs doing too. I'll say he's got a cool pug Mero All right, P Bernie right Yeah. And the PMT boys give you so much credit. So much. He's going to hate listening to this because he just gets so he does not want any of it. He does not want any of it. He stays in the he stays in the shadows. Merrill, I know he'll expect I could I told him

we were coming. Yeah, he's like, I know something's going to come out. Well, I asked him, I was like, hey, if you got any good questions for Merrill or Zach, let me know they're coming in. And he just hearted the message. I was like, Hey, if you got any good questions for Merrill or Zach, let me know they're coming in. And he just hearted the message. I was like, thanks, Dan. Thanks for nothing. He was looking out for it. Yeah. I was a starting pitcher. You wouldn't give me a full report, but he didn't give me shit. No,

good for him. Yeah, I respect that. I've gone on other podcasts where like, they've been like, we know you eat this for breakfast. I'm like, who is your source? Who are you talking to? Yeah. You call your dad? I said, dad, what's going on? The source was actually kind of out of the blue. I was like, wow.

Oh, there was actually? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Wait, Mary, what does he eat for breakfast? Yeah. I saw him at Kith the other day in Toronto eating French toast. So.

Oh, that's kind of heavy. Yeah, I got French. Yeah. What do you eat for breakfast? No, most of the time, it's either French toast. Oh, that's kind of heavy. I got French. Yeah. What do you eat for breakfast? No that like Most of the time it's like either French toast I like chicken waffles or eggs Benedict are like most of the time of French toast is kind of crazy So that is worth the question being like French toast no

Time is eggs Benedict. That's what I go with. That's my go-to Like I start every day with French toast. Yeah, that is crazy. Yeah, admittedly. I'm not even You want to pitch in the big leagues? Yeah, we like eggs Benedict those the theme though. It's my favorite. Do you eat differently on days that you start? Not really like I try to keep it the same like which is not the same every day Like just eat breakfast, you know go about my day like Just try to keep your body off balance a little bit. Yeah, keep it on its toes Like make sure you lose track of what day the week it is. Yes. Yeah, absolutely all the time

I would imagine that would be something that would be that would be different about baseball players Yeah, I'm like we're in our third city and a week and a half third time zone week and a half. Yeah, everywhere. Yeah. You don't know what days you know, what day you're pitching. And then after that, it's like, I don't know. You kind of know by like what time the game is. You're like, all right, it's a day game. It's probably Sunday or Wednesday or Thursday. Anything else? Point and you know, it ends in what we know it ends in. Why? Like, yeah. OK, quick break from Zach Galen and Merrill Kelly to talk to you guys about Friday, July 11th Netflix and most valuable promotions brings you two of the fiercest female athletes

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Let's get back to Zach Galen and Merrill Kelly. What's your favorite day of the five day, you know, like starting and then the like, what's the day? Because I always this is very sad and pathetic that like I'm not motivated, but I always daydream of being a pitcher the day after I had a start. I feel like that would rock just being like walking around the dugout being like, all right, boys, it's a care of business. Yesterday up to you. That's if you took care of it. Yeah. If you took care of business. Yeah. Well, in my in my dream, I always take care of business yesterday up to you. That's if you took care of business. Yeah, if you took care of business. Well, in my dream, I'm always taking care of business. Yeah, they call those dig me days. Okay.

Your spa day. Some people call them spa days. Oh, like look at me, like dig me day. I was like, I got the Pro Bomb, I'm like, dig, what is that? And they're like, they explain it to me. But does it, it's gotta feel good, right? Even if you're not trying to look for it,

like being like, I had a jam, or I pitched great deep into the game. And then the next day you just kind of can chill. Yeah, there's definitely something to be said knowing that you just pitched really well and walking into the stadium the next day, knowing that there's absolutely zero way that you're going to contribute to that game. Other than cheering on the boys and you know, doing whatever in the dugout, like there's no way that I'm going to enter the field of play today Yeah, yeah, that's gotta be great. Just like a little mini vacation that you're on. Yeah, do you guys get butterflies when you have to pitch? Yeah, I

Would say so not as much as when I was younger, but it's they're still there cuz yeah It's more like an anxious like let's go. Let's like the game sometimes. I'm like I wish this game would start So you must love to wait five days. Do you like pitch clock or no? Oh No Yes, and as a fan watching the game. Yes. Yeah pitching in the game There's times that I would love for the game to slow down a little bit. Yeah. Yeah, like sometimes you're out there and you're just like This it's five seconds already. Yeah, like what are we doing? Like you just turned around and it's three seconds. You have to throw the ball. But to your point, you're watching the game and it's over in two hours and 30 minutes. You're like,

pretty nice. Yeah. Pretty nice. I thought I was going to hate it, but I don't, I don't mind it. How do we feel about the robot OMS? Tough question for, I feel like for us to answer because we haven't experienced them yet. Yeah, the guys in AAA have done the whole ABS system and they've seen what it does. I like the idea of the challenge system a lot better. I think it kind of brings everything together. It's like because in my opinion, the pitches that are missed throughout the game, right? Like if you miss a pitch in the first inning, like is that really going to make a difference in the ninth?

But I go back to the World Series, that's strike three that Moreno got called out on that was this far off the plate. You know, if he taps his head right there to ball four, he's going to first and the game changes in a big way. So I think the ABS, I think is a little bit much. I don't know how you make that consistent over 30 stadiums. Yeah.

But I like the idea of the challenge system. Yeah, yeah. What about pitching on short rest you guys both done it Is it is it brutal? I've ever done it. Yeah, I don't think I don't think I've ever that's one of those things We're from a fans for sure. I'm like, yeah, why not just go pitch on short rest like just fucking suck it up, dude Take a couple of anti-flames and just run out there. Well, when does your arm start to feel good again? Is it really, does it take the full four days off?

Probably depends on the guy. In theory, you probably could, most guys could probably pitch on short rest, like one day, but over a period of the season, the compounding factor would be a problem, I think. But over a period of the season, like the compounding factor would be like a problem. I think. But yeah, you could do it. Like, I mean, you see guys do it in the playoffs all the time. Yeah. You get the adrenaline boost. Like it works out. But probably not the safest way to go about. Yeah. How sore are you after a game? Let's say you go eat innings.

How sore are you when you wake up the next day? Pretty sore for the most part. If it's except like if we're in Colorado, you're like extra sore just from like the elevation, the lack of oxygen, all that stuff. So like you get super sore. I would say I get sore on day two for me. That's when I'm like, like day one I'm like, all right,

like my body's sore. Like I feel like I pitched eight innings, but like my arm is sore on day two like trying to play catch and move and you know, you get that Delayed onset or something called Dom's delayed onset muscle soreness. Yeah What uh, where's your least favorite place to pitch not Colorado not taking out Colorado cuz that's an easy answer Obviously in division for you guys, but what's, and maybe it's like time of day too, shadows or whatever, but what's the place you're like, man, this sucks?

Regularly when the wind's blowing out. Yeah, that's, yeah. That one is not fair. Yeah, we were just talking before the game you guys played against the Cubs this year, where I think it was 16 runs in the inning and a half. Where it's just, you guys aren't even, are you, what's even your strategy in that?

Try to keep it on the ground? Yeah, throw some throw a sinker for the first time Change up some cutters and try to get them to hit it on the ground. Yeah Yeah, it's not good for me because for me I induce pop-ups fly balls like whatever so my fool This is tough. Everything's going. Yeah, is there another one though that you're like, oh, this is a tough place to pitch Or it's like so bad because of the yeah well, I got it. I got it.

I'm going to do a two part. Is it because of the team that you face in that stadium? Or is it the stadium itself? Like, oh, this place just sucks pitching in. Give me both. For me, I love pitching in the LA stadium. But I get absolutely shellacked there. So I don't like pitching there because the

Dodgers just light me up. Yeah the line up is not fun to pitch against. But the atmosphere is probably my favorite place to play in the league. They're either there or Petco. Cincinnati's tough. That's what I was going to say. Cincinnati's pretty brutal. Yeah, ball flies out there.

Ball flies in the mound. I know they're supposed to have regulations on how high the mound is, but whatever they're doing, they're cheating for sure. What do you mean? It's way lower. That mound is so flat. Oh, we have to look into that. Look into that's crazy. Like our mound at home feels like a mountain compared to Cincinnati. And you can notice right away when you stand on it. You can, you can notice it from the dugout. You're like, that's a flat, that mound is flat. Why would they do that? My guess is like maybe their pitchers are like, this sucks. I have to pitch here all the time. Well, if you think about like they could then try to acquire the pitches, pitchers that like pitch best on that type of mound, like sinker ballers or whatever it

is that works on that mound. Yeah. They'd be like, all right, we're going to stick with these guys because it benefits them. But it's really disadvantage. Yeah. That's crazy. What's the highest mound? I feel like ours is pretty big. Ours is pretty big. I feel like San Francisco kind of high.

San Francisco. I never even thought about this. Miami's high. I think Miami's a high mound. Yeah. Yeah, because it is supposed to be all the same, right? Yeah. You would think.

But I don't know that there's a I don't know There's a rule on the the angle of the slope like it just has to be like whatever it is But I don't know that it says like okay well then where you land has to be four inches high right? I don't know if there's a rule with that you're right Yeah, but they can make it ten inches and then just have it be like 10 inches across Yeah, right. You guys been operating with this thing the whole time. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah idea. Yeah, we got max back there Yeah, I noticed you didn't say the bank What about the not a tough place to play yeah

It's definitely I mean it's that those games in the playoffs were the most hostile. Yeah. Sporting event that I've ever been a part of hands down for sure. But I don't know. It also makes it fun for us. You know, it's like that's. Feed off it like COVID. One of the reasons why playing in COVID sucks so much is because it was silent. You know, it's like you pump in the crowd noise and you see cardboard cutouts in the stands and it's just quiet. For us, baseball's fun with fans.

That's the whole reason. That's one of the reasons why we play. When it's that loud, it's like white noise. You don't really hear it at that point. I played in New Orleans where there was 30 people at each game and you'd hear that one idiot in the corner being like, boss? And you're like, that's way worse than just like 45,000 people just screaming the whole time.

Whether they're screaming for you against you, at least it's like it brings energy. Yeah, it's fun. What was it like, Beryl, being called the worst pitcher in the league by your own coach? He actually said that. Yeah, he said, I'm not going to lie to you. I said he said since since the all star break, you are the worst statistical starting pitcher in the big league, in the big leagues.

You should have reversed it. You've been like, well, you're the worst coach for putting me out there in five days. Like you moron. And then my ass would have for sure been in the bullpen. I was trying to avoid the bullpen at all costs. I literally went to Asia to avoid the bullpen. I wasn't going to try to do it here. Wait, you didn't like the bullpen that much? I mean, that's yes and no. My role in Tampa was like what's called the swingman. Yeah.

Like I was a long relief. And then if somebody got hurt, I would start. And then when that guy came back, it didn't matter how good I did. I could be the best starter for six straight starts in the rotation. But if that guy came back, I was going to, I was the guy that went back to the bullpen. That'd be frustrating. And I just, yeah, I hated it. Um, yeah, it wasn't fun that that nine game stretch was probably the lowest point of my career. Um, I couldn't get past, if I made it to the fifth inning, it was a miracle. So how did you get out of that? Um, honestly, my back was against, just against the wall. I didn't really have a choice. It was like, I, I tried some different mechanical stuff and I just, I started doing like a Felix Hernandez turn

and just started letting the ball absolutely fly and it worked. Stuff started ticking up. The VELO ticked up, stuff started moving again. Um, and then once I got a couple of games after that under my belt, then the confidence started coming back. And after that it kind of just took off. Yeah. Open pitchers. That's gotta to be just a complete mindfuck. Not being able to prepare like the same way every single time, not knowing if you're going to get into the game. How do you manage that?

I understand it sucks and that's why you're like, fuck it, I'll go pitch in Korea. I hate it. But what's that like day to day? I mean one of the reasons I like starting is what you said. I know what day I am pitching. I know what days I have to do, but that's how my brain works Some guys some guys don't like that some guys can't handle knowing when they're pitching some guys They work way better in the bullpen because it's just They turn their brain off and then once the phone rings and their name calls, then they turn it back on

Yeah, it's a different mentality just because you're never Unless for me I was a long. If I threw three innings or four innings in a game, I knew the next couple days I was down. But for normal bullpen guys, like they're pretty much on call every single day. Yeah. So the thought of not being able to turn your brain off is different than like I said that day one. It's like I know 100% I'm not getting in the game for those guys. They never have that feeling and that's I

didn't. I didn't enjoy that. Who's the best hitter on your team? You got some all stars coming up. Yeah. You got to get some guys in the All-Star game. Yeah. I think for I mean, for sure. My guess would be could tell. I think it tells leading. Yeah. Yeah. Base voting runner. Yeah. Or been probably up there to Gino Gino and then per Domo and even nailer sneaky like nailer having a good year having a really good date something OPS 300 yeah so I mean offense our offense is so good yeah like it's it's honestly incredible yeah that's been our strength if you guys in my opinion our best overall hitters it's my mind gotta, gotta be Cattell. Yeah, yeah, he's an absolute switch. Hater hits for power. It's for average. He talked to his bat. Was that was that that clip? Yeah, it was. He does talk to his bat, right? What does he say to his bat? I couldn't tell you. It's in Spanish. He's just he's just like, well, tell me this. Is he angry at his bat or is he like happy with

I think in that clip, he was probably angry with it Yeah, I think he was telling me I'm taking it out in his bat. I can't remember one There was a clip of him sitting there talking to he was like having a full conversation with his bat Did the bat talk Marty? So I don't know I just but I saw it. I was just like oh shit Seems like the bat did something here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Marty's Marty's funny Marty's got all kinds of stuff going on Yeah, I read that you guys had a was it officially a players only meeting? Yeah. Yeah. What happened? What happens in a players only meeting? For starters, it's players only. Well, pretend we're playing.

We're in here. It's just us. Yeah. We struck out UIC. Yeah. Yeah. You struck out USC. UIC. Yeah. I don't talk in UIC. UIC. Oh, I think so. Yeah. I'm I don't talk in the media. I'm not a very vocal leader. I'm just. Are you snitch? Yeah, I'm a snitch. I just try snitching it. I run right to the floor and I'm like, listen, he's got a recording

out on the back. He's got his phone. It's more of just like it's try to it's basically try to nip whatever's going on in the bud. Right, if anybody's got something to say, say it now. If you got something against, if you don't like what a teammate's doing, if you don't like what the manager's doing, if you don't like how whatever you don't like or whatever you think is going on at that time, it's just a, it's a, just to come to Jesus meeting and try to figure it out. Most of the time it doesn't always work.

You know, it's like, it's kind of a thing that we just feel like, I feel like it gets to the point where you feel like you have to do something, right? Somebody needs to say something because it's just gotten to the point where it's just that bad. But yeah, it's just kind of like air it out. If you got something to say, say it,

pick your stuff, pick your shit up and let's go. All right, very important question. If Dan Heron was in town, when he would not be running that meeting, would you invite him to the players only? No. What if he was like, please guys? He wouldn't, he would never.

What if he did, what if he just did that? He would not want to be a part of that. If he was like, please guys, I just, I want to feel like a player again for one second. Probably not. Okay. I can imagine like maybe 10% of the time a players only meeting works really well.

And the other 90% it just turns into like just an argument. Yeah. Honestly, not, no. The players only meeting happens and it's like, all right, the, a veteran calls the meeting. And then it's like that veteran calls it talks. And then there's probably like two or three other veterans that talk. And then it's always the question is if any young guys want to say anything, get up and say something and then no one says it's like unless it's for Domo. Yeah, like so it's one of those things of just like, all right, let's talk about this

I guess. I don't know. But it's not a yeah, it's a weird thing. It is a weird thing Zach is it true when you were five years old you refused to play t-ball so that you could play little league Yeah, I didn't want to play t-ball. So you just like I'm not doing this and uh, well, I just thought I was like, okay Well, cuz okay, so my brother's a few years older than me. So I kind of knew like the lay of the land of how it worked. And I was like, every game ends in a tie. Everyone gets like a dollar at this. I'm like, that sounds terrible.

And my dad coached the seven, eight, nine year old team. So I was like, why would I go play t ball when I could go play real baseball? That's funny. That was you at five. Yeah, that's that's like it fits perfectly. I'm like, I want no part of that. So far. I'm not a baby. What? Yeah, exactly. Even though I was like, I was like this tall and like the grass is taller than me in my field. It was. Yeah.

Did your brother play baseball, like continue playing baseball? Yeah. My brother played all the way up until college through college and then just was he was a good player. He was just undersized. Yeah, like just he was if Dustin Pedro would have came a few years earlier, maybe he would have had a little different career. That's good. Yeah. The undersized guy wasn't getting any love then. Yeah. So, when you're five years old and you start playing with

seven year olds, yeah. Seven eight nine. How are you like you were facing off against nine year olds as a five. Yeah, I didn't get a hit the first like when I was five like I didn't get a hit The entire year like and the 24 all the nine-year-olds are saying there's no way Look at this guy like there's no chance. I want to drill you if you're like a five-year-old and I'm nine So like who is this fucking exactly? Yeah, I'm just gonna drill this I had to wear like a I think they I forget if it was like five and six or whatever. You had to wear like a vest, like if you got hit with a ball, like because like

you stop your horror or whatever. Yeah. Where that would like the face mask like batting helmet. It was a it was tough, but I never got a hit. So I'd come back to the dugout and be like upset, like cry, like because I want to be good. So I get the six and I struck out at six and like the first at bat, I came back and my dad was like, no more fucking crying. Like we're not doing that shit anymore. And I was like, all right. And then I got a hit and I was like, all right, all's well is good. So yeah. But yeah, he was like, we're not doing that shit

anymore. Dan here needs to include that in your write-ups. Like, Hey, no more fucking crying. I can see your dad saying that too. he didn't actually curse but he said we're not doing that anymore like that was five-year-old stuff this is six-year-old I could have seen him I could have seen him cause yeah but it was good and yeah they made my dad draft me like in the then the town draft my dad was like let me just give him a uniform put him I'm gonna put him in right field. Like he's gonna play like once every other game. And the commissioner was our next door neighbor.

He was like, uh-uh. He's like, you gotta draft him. My dad's like, I gotta draft a five year old. And my dad gives my brother credit. He's like, listen, he's like, take him with, you gotta take him in like the third round or whatever. He's like, take him in the third round. He's like, cause next year, you're gonna have to take him in the first round. He's like, so if you you. Got to take him in like the third round or whatever. He's like, take him in the third round. He's like, because next year you're going to take him in the first round.

He's like, so if you take him to third this year, you'll get your first round pick next year too. Yeah. So my brother GM'd it and it worked out. Yeah, that's incredible. Yeah, I love that. I think that's fair though. GM in Little League.

Yeah, GM. Yeah, I think that's fair to make your character after you. Like yeah. Yeah. If you want him to play at five, if you don't play T ball, you got to do what you got to do. This is not going to be somebody else's problem. You have to take your bra. Imagine if I get drafted. If I got drafted by somebody else, somebody else's dad was like, no, no, I won't. I want the five year old.

Five year old. Yeah. Well, it's been awesome guys. I got one last question. Row back question R H O B A C K dot com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q. Zips Polos hoodies joggers shorts row back dot com promo code take. I pitched this to every pitcher, but if this. Come on just once. Honestly, what's so I think about just like the one position

players go out there and yeah, and they make it out. Yeah. Sometimes when I'm like getting hit, Kika Hernandez is the best pitcher in the league. Maybe I should just throw an EFIS up there. It would screw them up. You know, they would be like, what the hell was that? Maybe I'll mix a Palm ball in there from time to time. You actually have one that's like a real pitch. I would be throwing like a,

just rookie of the year. Oh yeah. Rookie of the year. Like, yeah, just floated in. Are you guys, do you guys get pissed when someone pimps a home run? No, not so much anymore. Yeah, yeah. You just got to pimp a strikeout back. Yeah.

If it's directed like at you, like there's some sort of. He stares at you. Yeah, something like that. But like if you want to do a cartwheel, like around third base, like whatever, like cool. Like it's, it's just the game now. Yeah. It is what it is. Yeah, it kind of goes back to the rookie stuff.

Like that stuff is acceptable now. It's not like, oh, you watched it for a half a second too long, now I'm gonna drill the next guy in the head. Like that just doesn't happen anymore. Yeah. You sound upset about that though. I'd be upset about that. If I was a venture.

Yeah, I mean, I don't love it, but I mean, what are you gonna do? Yeah, don't give up the home run. Don't give up the home run. Don't give up the home run. Have you guys been kicked out of games before? I've gotten tossed twice. What'd you do?

Yelled at them. Both of them were the same way. It was a check swing, happened this year. Check swing, no call, walk. I forgot you got tossed this year. Check swing and it was like a blatant, blatant swing. And it was a last week. Check swings by the way,

we agree the UMPs sure just guessing. Yeah, they're not, they're not paying attention. Yes. Cause this swing was like almost if he hit it, it would have been a double. Yeah. So no call last Diaz at first base and no call next pitch walk him. And I think I got taken out of the game after that. And I just turned around and told them that as you're walking, as I was, and the two times I've gotten thrown out in my career actually are funny it's because I've been leaving the game so it's like all right cool buddy like I'm

literally fucking walking to the clubhouse right now and you're gonna toss me it's like what does that do you just make that your thing that's the good thing about being a pitcher yeah you could you're out and you're like I'm just gonna get yeah you should make that your thing every time you get pulled from just yell at the empire for no reason You get fine for the last one. I don't know honestly. I have no idea. I think it comes out of the check I think it's only I think it's like 500 bucks something like that. Yeah, there's been times on check swings I've seen the umpire like they're just like looking in the stand. Yeah, it's like no They're not always just the games here some of the calls they miss. It's like dude

I don't know how you didn't see that. It was right in front of you have one job in that moment You're supposed to be looking right at it and you missed it by the way I didn't mention this but Merrill do you know that you're the only Merrill and MLB history, which is kind of crazy I didn't I feel like a hundred years ago. There had to be Merrill just walking everywhere Yeah, right, you know and you're actually Zack. You're the only the second Zack spelled Z a see there was one before me Yeah, there was one. I'll find it. That's crazy Yeah, we got it. We got a Zack of our own that's the AC. Yeah Yeah, see I thought ZAC was just like very uncommon that is but there's more people now that I've

AC do people think that your name is Zack Allen a lot What's funny about that is that there was the guy that plays for the Broncos now, yeah that there was the guy that plays for the Broncos now. Zach Allen. My dad's watching a game back when he was at Cardinals and he's like, Zach Allen with the sack. And my dad was like, huh? Is he playing football now? Not realizing that there was another,

so a little bit of a confusion there. Zach Curtis, who debuted for the Diamondbacks in 2016. He hasn't been in the league, his last appearance was in 2018. When I was in AA there was a bench clearing brawl that I think he was involved in at one point in time. Zach on Zach crime? I was not, I was on, yeah.

But I think there was something that happened where the bench is cleared for some reason. I do remember that name. Yeah, he got called out from high A. I remember Zach, yeah. Do you guys have a move ready to go if somebody charges at you? No. You gotta throw the glove, I think that name. Yeah, you got called up from like high A. I remember Zach. Yeah. Do you guys have a move ready to go? If somebody charges at you. No.

You gotta throw the glove, I think. Yeah. That's the first. Disorients in a little bit? Yeah, it's really. Or just try to get the ball back as fast as possible and act like I'm gonna throw to them. Yeah.

See what happens. We gave Cal Raleigh the tip that like, what catchers should start doing is just, like just throw your leg out there and triple. Cause if you get tripped and you fall on your face, you're not. You're not you're not You just kick their foot it's over. Yeah, you just tell your catchers to do that. Yeah, just stick your foot Yeah, right. You're seeing it's done. You guys ever seen the video of the guy like judo kicking the catcher in the chest before you

Yeah, yes. Yes. Yeah, that's pretty gnarly. That's yeah. Have you guys been charged before? No. No Yeah, I mean you would have fucked him up. Most of the time I try to hit somebody I miss, honestly. That's like the worst thing. It sucks. It's way harder than it looks. It's way harder than it looks. Yeah.

Like intentionally trying to hit somebody. It's just a terrible part of the game. Yeah. The only thing you can't do is just run. If you run, then it's bad. You have to just, what the infielder's telling you is like, just give us enough time to get there. Right. So you run, then it's bad. You have to just, what the infielers tell you is like, just give us enough time to get there. Right.

So you kind of like hold them off. So you got to throw the glove to like stun them a little bit. And then just, you know, if you want to get a punch in. Throw the rosin bag at them. Yeah, rosin bag, pick up some dirt. Throw it in their eyes. Gladiators.

Just try not to get hurt, I think. It's like basically, don't get hurt. I think the move is like, what's his name, Granky? Yeah, broken collar bones. His collar bones. That's right. You like a little sidestep to the left And then you swing after he runs a little bit past you and then by that time the shortstop should be there Yeah, yeah, it's a wrap the first base where I can see Nailin and just like

Can see J Nailor getting over there and tackling somebody for sure yeah All right. Well, thanks so much boys. We We appreciate it. It was awesome having you guys here. And best of luck rest of the season. Appreciate you guys. Yeah, it was fun. Cool. Before we get to Joey Chestnut, it's brought to you by great friends and Netflix.

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Joey is back. So let's start with that, Joey. How good does it feel to be back? And are we feeling like this is, hey, this is gonna be a special one. You gotta prove, hey, whatever happened last year, there's an asterisk there, The king is back. Oh yeah. It feels really good. It's a last year. Things didn't go as I wanted, but we, uh, we worked

it out and, uh, yeah, I'm hungry. This is, this is what I love doing. That's fourth of July hot dogs competition. Yeah. How did it feel last year? Not being a part of Nathan's to, did you feel like in, in absence, did it feel unusual for you? It was very it was weird. Watching the guys eat. And like I told people I didn't watch but I watched and then I went off to do my own little event. But yeah, so yeah, it was weird watching them and like, oh man, I could it. It's, it's just, that's the way that's life. Sometimes, sometimes you're, you're on the wrong side.

When you were watching it last year, did that make you hungrier? Yeah, it made it easy. So last year I was at a military base, Fort Bliss in Texas, eating against some soldiers where they were awesome. And it was the group of five versus me. I ended up almost beating what Pat did in five minutes. almost beating their, beating what Pat did in five minutes. Wow. It made, it was, yeah, it was, it motivates you to see people when you're not there. I have a question that you probably get a lot, but I'm genuinely curious how you break this down.

How much further can you push yourself? How much further is within the realm of human possibility to go when it comes to eating hot dogs? Because every year I see you eat, I'm like, well, he'll never beat that. That's insane. How do you how do you approach that? Yeah, the last record 76 in 10 minutes is a tough record to beat. It's gonna be a hard one. It's gonna take perfect conditions. Not too hot, not too windy. If it's If it's windy, the hot dogs get cold. But if you have enough warmth, like 78 degrees, 75, and then if it's kind of dry outside, the buns get stale. So you need to have fast buns, warm dogs, and not too hot. Because dude, I'm getting older. I'm a little bit fat so it so I'm sweat I once I start sweating it really hard I'm in trouble I like that the wind comes into play like an under in in football where it's like oh they're not

gonna be able pass the ball today the wind is gonna is gonna really dry out the buns and we're gonna have problems and they're gonna get cold. Yeah, the wind, it affects everybody has special their water temperature that they like for drinking water for dunking. This year, I'm thinking I did that event with Netflix last year when that was a no dunking event. And I learned that like towards the end of the contest, it's actually a little bit easier to not dunk. There's less movement involved. So, so I'm trying to plan it out. So I'll make, make the switch because sometimes I slow down bad when I'm dunking. Yeah. So you're tinkering. I like that. So what, like, you know how marathon runners, they'll, you know, a couple of weeks before they'll try to run 20

miles. What is the lead up? Like what, is there a lead up where a week before or two weeks before? You're do you're pushing yourself as hard as you can to see where you're at or have you done that yet? Oh, yeah Every every fifth or sixth day. I'm doing practices and so my man. I'm in the cycle. I call it before every practice There's a cleanse after every practice There's a recovery period where it's super high fiber food trying to get back to normal. And then there's one day of normal eating, then there's the cleanse again, then another practice. Last two practices, it's go time. It's close to breaking records. I don't need to break the record necessarily in the last two practices,

but it would help. But it's, there's been years where I smashed the record in my last practice and then didn't get the record in the finals. But we'll see, we'll see. I'm feeling good. So can you describe your ideal setup? Like if you were to plan the weather for a day or two leading up to the event and the event itself, what are the perfect conditions for slamming hot dogs? Oh, perfect conditions. Seventy five degrees, a little bit of cloud cover, not completely, but sunny. And then not windy and not too humid.

And not not windy and not not too humid. A little humidity is good. But if it's because if it's too dry, the buns get stale real fast. And then maybe rains the night before, like a golf course, like soften the air up a little bit. A little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Soften the air up. So you're talking about your training regiment. What's the most that you've ever eaten in training, like outside of competition?

Oh, outside. So what, oh, for the end, for the Fourth of July contest, I want to say was, jeez, I think I hit up to 82 in practice one time. And that was just perfect. Eating, well, that's eating indoors, fresh, perfect hot dogs. And then that's just not realistic. When Fourth of July, everything's eating indoors, fresh, perfect hot dogs. And that's just not realistic.

When 4th of July, everything's cooked ahead of time, everything's sitting for a little bit and you got those outdoor conditions. So I've learned to actually, I've been eating outside in Indiana, so it's hot right now. Yeah. And I'm, last practice. I was sweating so bad It numbers went down a lot, but I'm hoping I can yeah, it's I'll be alright. Alright, so we have this debate in football Kurt Warner always says that football should be played in a dome in perfect conditions

Do you think that hot dogs eating should be an outdoor sport or do you think it should it should go to dome? And we should we should be playing this in a dome? I think it's a I think well when there's history involved in Coney Island It's got to keep it outside. Yeah, but for a lot of other events like I did the net Netflix event that was indoors they wanted a record so they made fresh hot dogs and Really fresh hot dogs indoors. We smashed 83 that day and they're a little bit smaller than on the 4th of July. So the different record but indoors you're seeing some massive numbers. So when you get there on the 4th of July are you are you even thinking about

anyone else? Are you just going against yourself? Because like it's it's crazy how much Further you are than everyone else in terms of the hot dog eating and like the winner last year at 58 I don't think I mean you I don't think you've had a Fourth of July where you've been under 60, right? So are you are maybe like 10 years ago 12 years ago? But are you are you even thinking about the competition or you're just like 10 years ago, 12 years ago, but are you are even thinking about the competition or you're just like, it's me versus myself. Yeah, I think, I think that's the best anybody in this kind of, uh, yeah.

And this kind of competition, you need, you need to just really, you're going against yourself. If you worry about other people, you're, you're, uh, you're not focusing on your training, your numbers that you've hit, the things if I'm worried about what anybody else is doing, it's taking away from what I'm doing. So it's I'm really just trying to go back to good practices. And yeah, I'm not if I if I if I'm doing if I'm doing OK, I should blow everybody else away. Are you in your prime right now for eating?

Oh, fuck. I mean, there's different times. There's like my physical prime. Shit, that was probably that was that was like 35. I was I was a beast. I could get away with doing less practice. I I could recover quickly. My body was just an animal. But and I know my body so much better now.

It's it's ridiculous. I like I can I make a choice if I like, all right, if I'm breaking my diet, I know what I'm gaining weight, I know what it takes to lose weight. Uh, but, and, and also I know, I know how to train muscles in my throat and to make, to make them stronger. So I can just keep swallowing the meat. Yeah. It's like sports science at this point.

Yeah. I, I hate to ask the question, but is retirement on the horizon anywhere for you right now I don't know retirement would be death. I'm doing this thing until the wheels fall off, baby No, you can't you retire from eating you do die. Yeah Or somebody knocks me off and if they knock me off once they'll have to do it again because I'm gonna come back but uh, you know, it's uh, I To be the man you got to beat the man and I'm not gonna I'm not gonna walk away Yeah, well, this is I don't think I've ever asked this but is there one record or competition that you did?

That you can think of and be like I would never do that again because it was so disgusting There was I did crab cakes in Delaware and in the casino, they did this dirty. They had them all sitting out there and they were, as soon as we got on stage, it was, you could smell fish. And like people got sick during the contest. I got sick right after the contest. I almost, it was the closest I've ever been to getting disqualified and, uh, and it turned me off to the food for like two years. And so I, it's weird.

Cause like it was the grossest contest, but now, now that, now that I'm eating crab cakes again, I was like, all right, I really want, I want to make a crab cake record. This is, uh, so I want it now. Yeah. What, what, how many did you eat that day? Oh, I did 39 and Sonya Thomas this is like my first year compete in eating and competitive eating 20 years ago Yeah, so I did 39. I think she did 42 or 41. Oh wow. There's nothing worse than Eating knowing you're gonna get sick and not winning. It's just it's just painful. What about uh, you have you ate? 141 hard-boiled eggs in eight minutes one time. That had to be gross. No, it was actually really good. I like our world.

Weather dude. So it was weird. So like it was this weather like it was perfect for this food. So they were like we were in Kentucky and then they had this downpour like raining on us and all the hard boiled eggs were like slippery and like they were in Kentucky and it had this downpour like raining on us and all the hardwoods were like slippery and like sliding down. It was like and it was like oh yeah and I smelled like sulfur for two days. Oh God. Is there a record that you've attempted or a competition that you've done where the aftermath of it is especially bad? Like I'm talking about you know the toilet situation afterwards is there one that was so gross that you're like, I'm not doing that again?

There's, there's a couple that like, I know going in, they're going to be rough. Like anything with bratwurst, bratwurst, man, there's the ad extra fat in there and it's, it's running through you. It's you're not in control. It's a there's, there's accidents bound to happen slides right out. What about a food that you've never competed with that you would like to try I want to go to Alaska eat king crab. Yeah They have a big big ass legs and they cut them in half with a saw but like a circular saw so I'd be rad to

get it like a circular saw. So that'd be rad to get it like a thousand dollar rack of a thousand dollar bill at a restaurant. They should put you on the deadliest catch. Like as a punishment, you have to go on on one of the guys ships and then you eat the crab as they bring it in. So you deduct from their total points on the season. Yeah. That would rock. So if you win on 4th of July, that would be your 17th title, which is incredible. Will

it be the most gratifying one because of the one year ban last year? Or is there one that you look back at and you're like, no, this one was the one that I always think about. Like that was special. Oh man. They're all, they're all special in a weird ways. Like it doesn't have to be records or just different parts of my life. Like the year I, the year I had the, the protester, uh, I was there. I was competing. Yeah. That was your year. Yeah. I got covered in blood. Yeah. Yeah. The first one was red. That was, that was a long ass time ago. Yeah. It was like 10. It was almost 10 years ago. Yeah. He got you with paint. Yeah. They got me with paint and I was next to, I was next to the guy who, uh, I can't remember who he was. He's the kind of a hippie guy.

He only ate one dog. He was like, he said he was going crazy. Yeah. He said he was going back in time to the first Coney Island, a hot dog eating competition. He was going to eat one single dog. Yeah. Yeah. He's definitely a hippie. Yeah. Yeah. That was wild. Yeah. That one was crazy. But yeah, there's, there's, there's some special ones like, yeah, he's definitely a hippie. Yeah. Yeah, that was wild. Yeah, that one was crazy. But yeah, there's there's there's some special ones like, yeah, there's the first time I beat Kobayashi or even the next time we're overtime year. So it's weird. Like, this is my 20th year going. So it's a lot of weird memories, a lot of history. It's awesome that I mean 20 years 17 hopefully getting 17

this year is gonna be it's gonna be special. I'm excited it didn't feel like the 4th of July without you in it. I'll say that we I think we said it on the show but it did not feel like I kind of canceled 4th of July in my mind last year. The 4th of July is always gonna go on and I was eating hot dogs somewhere but it is good to be back on Coney Island. And thank you so much. Yeah. Yeah. So a couple last questions. Um, people don't know this, but like how quickly after you finished the contest, are you drinking beer? Cause you go out that night, a little bit late. Yeah. Usually my goal is to try to make it out,

uh, right, right after fireworks. Sometimes I get out of the hotel room and I'm, oh yeah, fireworks are still on. It's a good recovery. It depends on the year. Some years if it's super hot, then I'm not going to do anything, but it takes a long recovery. But yeah, right around 10 PM I'm on a liquid diet and things are, I'm trying to get there. How many beers do you drink after eating 70 hot dogs. I don't think we should say this. I mean I don't know you haven't. It's not going to make it. I end up time traveling. I woke up and I was like I think I'm I'm in the in the green room for the today show.

There are a few haters out there of the entire sport of competitive eating. I don't like to give them the time of day. I don't like to give them any mental energy of mine. But do you have a case that you can make to any of the haters out there that might have in the past not watched the Nathan's Hot Dog Eating Contest? Do you have a case that you can make to be like, hey, this is actually a competitive environment. It's athletics. This is sports and we're pushing our body to the fullest limit.

It's really easy to be negative. I can't think of an offhand of anybody I've had a conversation with, but it's been a while. But yeah, there's people who are always going to be negative. They're going to say, I remember there's people who used to say golf wasn't a real sport. And there's people who just knocked and knocked and knocked WNBA for years and years. And now it's, uh, people, eventually they, they eat their words and, uh, well, I'm still eating. Yeah. Um, all right. My last question, uh, is the robot question, rh A C K.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, row back.com promo code take. So we were, we were texting. I was going to try to get you up here for the first day that we opened our ice cream machine. So we have a full soft serve ice cream machine in the office. We're still going to do it. Man vs. Machine. How many ice creams do you think you can eat? Can you think you put the machine out of business with the amount of ice cream you can eat? I want to try. It's like some ice cream machines

that it comes out super frozen and hard. Some of it's a little bit more ours. Not ours. We're soupy. We're soupy. Oh, a little soup. Oh, soup and cream. I like it. Yeah, I would. I'm thinking close to two gallons worth. It'd be like, so I did an ice cream contest. And after the contest, I was like shivering. Because I was so cold. Everything was cold.

So I think close to two gallons would be in about eight minutes. It'd be close to that. Okay. Maybe that's what we'll do. We'll build the machine up with two gallons and be like, have at it. I mean, it would be awesome if you broke the machine. Like, this is John Henry. This is the story of John Henry against the steam powered driller.

You could do this. I wonder if it does it slow down? Yeah. If I hit the... The machine starts shaking? Yeah. That's when you know, you've got it. Yeah, you've got a beat. Oh, man Well, Joey, we're so pumped for you to have you back Want to say number you're going for I mean you're going are you going for the record? Are we gonna get a record? I'm trying to hit that record 77 be perfect

the last Anything above 70 is really, really, really tough. But yeah, if it's good conditions, I'll be feeling good. Is there a minute mark where we should look for you to be at a specific number to make 77 possible? Oh, man, should I say it? Yeah. If I met 50 hot dogs Oh, man, should I say if I if I met 50 hot dogs in five minutes, that's that's almost a lock. That means I have five minutes left. All I have to do is average just just over five hot dogs a minute, five, five and a half hot dogs a minute and then then I'm there is is 100 possible? Will we live to see 100 hot dogs? Probably not by me.

But yeah, it's a competition. I'm a little bummed out. There's nobody pushing me. Yeah, that's the best way for me at 77. Like last year when I when I did the contest against Kobayashi, I like all right, I didn't know what he's capable of. So so I was willing to really just go all out, no holding back, and not worry about like on the 4th of July, I'm a little bit worried.

If I have a bad burp, it might look like a barf. So especially towards the end, so I have to be really careful to make sure I don't have those burps. So it's, yeah 100 100 be up there. I like the most I've ever like even eating after the 10 minutes the most I've ever gone up to is 90. Okay, we're gonna push ourselves you you eat after the 10 minutes? Like you're not yet? No, you have to. So I do the 10 minute practice and then I take a breather. And then I then I start eating. I try to convince myself. All right, let's eat like you did like like you did in the beginning. And then so you have to practice eating fast while you're full. So then you convince yourself to you can do it again.

You're a beast. That's it. That's your monster. Yeah. Yeah. I'm so glad that you're back on the Fourth of July at Nathan's. We're all going to be rooting for you. Yeah. Let's set some records. Yes. Greatest athlete of all time. Great greatest athlete of all time. We'll be saying on 4th of July Thank you. All right. Thanks so much Joey. Thanks, Joey Joey chest I was brought to you by Morgan and Morgan Have you ever stood at the top of a towering water slide with your heart pounding and asked yourself? What's the worst that could happen? One visitor found out the hard way what was supposed to be a thrilling day at a popular Florida water attraction ended in a life-altering injury. While riding on one of the park's fastest slides, he was violently thrown from his tube,

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Every team has to draft nine positions. Every position on the field, obviously DH instead of pitcher. And home runs is it. Whoever has most home runs wins. Whereas the least home runs loses and has to get six outs against a college baseball team like PFT did. Yep. Max did. Oh, wow. Oh, I'm tempted to do. It's tempting to do. Did you get to do twice? And then there was an unfortunate accident that prohibited that up until baseball season. Whose fault was the accident? Mine. Hand hand up accountability why don't you explain to people what

happened I was actually no I was over served oh so it's a bar tender issue I don't have to shout out the the exact that's also on you because you should just be able to drink more I was over served there's no such thing as me being over sir you also could have not drank anything because you were in training for the baseball Yeah, well whatever Brandon. Oh Fuck by the way, I don't know why I said it like that Brandon was in it last year. He's in it again I want Jerry was in it last year He's in it again Zack is a new entry and Stephen Che is a new entry who's a commissioner last year

Are we worried at all about Stephen Che being the commissioner and also participating? Yeah, I am I just like to say I. I would I you know what I'm gonna match. Yeah, because Really, I'm not but if he wins somehow, yeah, I'm gonna be very very concerned. Would anyone like to double the concern? I'll sign off on that. Yeah. All right, so we got a match. I'll match Jerry's double. Okay, I trust Stephen I'll say it. Okay, if Stephen wins, I'm gonna be going like this. Yep. Remember remember I trusted you by the way So max are you going to do this ever? Yeah, we're gonna kind of ruins dingers Only no we're gonna like imagine that you're in a fantasy football league and the person finishes in last

They don't do their punishment for your friends fantasy football league Until after the draft for next season. What do you think you think should happen that person I'm willing to take last pick although that'll make things more confusing no and also it's snake draft yeah mm-hmm so you kind of gave yourself I guess what I was a terror are you gonna do it yes the how are you gonna do it what steps have you taken recently where advance ourselves and doing this where are you gonna it? Where do you want it? Probably out on YouTube. We'll probably film it, record it and put it out. Is that what they call your butt hole? When do we start talking about butts? When is this happening? It's happening

maybe after Grit Week. Okay. So maybe two months from now. That's what you're telling the AWLs. Well yeah, the AWLs are upset. I know, I know. And they have every right to be. Rightfully so. And they have every right to be. But we had two dates set, two dates got rained out, and then I broke my foot and then the college baseball season started. And teams aren't going to do that in the middle of the season. So it's not like I just

didn't try for a year. There was ample amount of trying. There was a lot of trying. I think you should have to do four innings. Three. I think you should double it. Three. You've waited the whole year. This is a negotiation. Shake his hand. No deal. Four. Two. No, he's going backwards. Two. Get three. Get three. Get three three two college baseball and then two softball women softball to it that will make it so hard to plan that to winning two one-on-one okay how about three plus you you have to you have to wear one. What? You're going to get beamed. With what? A baseball, by a pitcher.

All of us. What? All of us get to throw one at you. No deal. Why? We can't throw that at you. That would hurt. All?

Yeah. Yeah. No deal. Not at the same time. One. Four. One. The winner of now that's a the winner of

this I know because then that would just be buying myself more time yeah I think one thing about getting hit by one for the next year three innings to one two people one three innings one none of us can throw hard I try it's not if I went through this entire year and was like and and just didn't do a single thing about it I would be more well this year 2025 yes the teams were playing yeah try readings one guy get one of us gets to being you but it has like they get multiple pitches till they hit you. Five pitches. You can't duck it though. It should be. You got to stand in the box. You can't like jump around and shit. No. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. That's fine. All right. Deal. All right. Everyone with that. Good deal. All right. So three innings. You're going to pitch three innings. Okay. All right. Good. Good. Good. Good., good. Good negotiation. Should we get to the draft? Anyone got a question about the rules? Zach, you got a question about the rules? Steven, you got a question about the rules? We discussed outfield as long as they've played that position.

Left field, center field, right field, at least 10 games were good, and they can be in that position. You said it. You do get a drop, right? You get one drop if your player accused of pedophilia pedophilia That's the what's-his-name rule wonder from wonder for I had wonder Franco I had to drop him had to take a stand for what's right you also get an injury right you have one injury one injury Slash pedophilia, but you have to specify if you're dropping the person for injury or for pedophilia

Okay, but it's only one injury and if you drop someone and then another guy gets injured, you can't. And if another guy gets pedophilia. It's also one pedophilia. Okay. You know, those are separate. All right. Yeah. You have to keep the second pedophile. Okay. All right. Exactly. So if you draft two pedophiles, yours out a lot. You're in a sh- you just hope that they don't get caught. Okay. But you do hope they get caught eventually. I hope they get caught. After the season. You don't want them to just not ever get caught. You just don't want them to get caught while they're on your team. Where's Wander Franco these days? I think he jail. I think he went home. He do a DUI or something. I think he did something else. I think he added something onto his charges. Went home. Tampa. No, that wasn't what I was

talking about. That's not where he's in court. I mean, the smartest thing he could do is to get another charge. And then everyone was like frigate Is that the guy that got the UI? Yeah Wonder Franco he's from the Dominican Republic. I think he went. Oh, yeah Prosecutors seek five-year prison term for Franco at least he blew above. Oh, that's 42 minutes ago He's in court literally right now Okay, hey, he's currently on Major League Baseball's restricted list after initially being placed on administrative leave. Okay. He's restricted. But for the record, I dropped him before MLB acted. That's true. You were the first person

to speak out. So credit to me. Did you hear about Juan DeFranco? At least he blew above .18 this time. That's the jokes that would happen if you got to do right. All right. We're ready to go. Let's do it boys. Let's get some juice in here for the Dingers only. All right. Jerry, you have the first pick in the Dingers only league draft. Then we're going around the round the horn here. A snake draft. So Steven will have the eighth and the ninth pick, and then coming back around. Yes, sir. OK. All right. My first pick, tough one. But looking at the at-bats right now, blows everybody else out the water without at-bats.

I'm going sho-hey, Ohtani. OK. Because it didn't hit her. Why did you say that was a tough one? I like that. Well, because judge, you know? Judge is there, too. Best player in baseball.

I got you. I got you. I got you. Oh, nice. I wanted to pick my guy, Judge. I'm going to cross off for a few minutes, and then I'm going to stop. You blew that first pick.

Just absolutely blew it. You blew that first pick. How? People are going to be studying this draft for years to come, and they're going to look at your first. That's like Darko Milicic going in. He's got 27 home 26 home run Good good good. That's the Otani draft

What what position does he play DH? Okay? Yeah interesting positional value Zack your I think that's pretty good positional value to be honest with you Okay, I would like I would like to take a Aaron judge as my guy in this draft. Okay, is that a bad pick? No, it's great. That's an awesome great pick. Great pick. Great fucking pick. So I have him as a right fielder. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Because he plays right field. That would be where he plays. Good point. Okay. So, I am going to, once again, I was rewarded with nothing. I won Dingers Only on a route last year.

What? That's how all of us, winning means nothing. Oh, Max Max shut the fuck just saying I am simply talking okay go ahead remember my team I got in the eighth round last year I'm getting him in the first round this year don't I am doing it why wouldn't I do I'll have to do it I have to trade with you it's so far above everybody else's position I wanted to call him you can't call him I had him last year I am the year before call him. I had him last year.

I had him the year before. I know but I had him last year. I'll try I'll make a trade for you. How are you gonna trade? When we come back around I'll let you pick in front of me. I don't think that we can do this. Take his whole second round. Steven. Make him skip his second round. Trades are allowed in drives? Yeah trades are allowed. So I get your first round pick and your second round pick? No, no you get to jump in front of me. I'll let you jump in front of me the two times in a row that it comes back around. So you move up twice. Yeah, but I won't be able to get anybody this good. I can't. Why? Why do you get to just claim a guy? I'm just asking. Three times I'll let you. I'll just give you my second round pick. For what? Not

even a pick swap. Just give it to you for this guy. For this guy? What are you guys doing? How come you... That's a pretty good deal from PFT. I'll give you my second round pick. My second round pick is more valuable. Just take him. Cal Raleigh, Kevin. Fuck!

It's stupid, I couldn't not take him. No, he's 1-1. Yeah, I know, I am a little worried he's hit too many home runs. So far. It's going to be tough to keep the pace up, but... Correct. What are you doing? Ask him to be on your team?

He's probably at the ballpark or something already It's probably pooping this big might be pooping if he doesn't pick up for Brandon then he's this is your phone Your pick he's back on the waiver. He's not answering. He's back on the waiver. No cuz that's your phone Cow rally catcher all right 31 home run. I know he said that was the one one Second best catcher at 17. Yeah, he's a catcher. There's Logan a Logan. Oh hope is good, too All right, unless here. I'll take I'll take my guy Kyle Schwab. Oh here. I'll take I'll take my guy Kyle Schwab. But then, oh, and the H right now left field. Yeah. What'd you offer? Wait, because I was going to pick him. Trovers played more than 10 years. He definitely wasn't coming back to you. No, how many games left field on how

many games? College field marks. He's played left field a bunch. This way a little square. I think you would prefer him at D.H. You? I don't know, man. I think for sure. There's so many left fielders. There's so many. Yeah. They're about the same. Okay. PFT, you're up.

Okay, so I guess he's my DH. I gotta take my guy. I gotta take James Wood, Mr. National, left field, hitter of the highest pop flies you've ever seen. James Wood, 22 years old. Love that. Future face of this league. Good pick.

That's beautiful. Jay Woody. I will be taking. This is where it gets really boring for the listeners. I know. You know what? You know what? Yeah. What?

I will be taking PCA. Yup, it's a good pick. Yup. It's a good pick. It's a great pick. Inside the park runs count too. It's a great pick. Who's that guy, Max?

MVP. And, and, and, Stephen was gonna take him. I was, I was. I wanted to take him, man. It's a good pick. Center field, a good positional value. Yup. Yup. All right, I'm gonna go,

good positional value. Yep. Yep. All right. I'm going to go. Positional value. I'm I'm up in the air. I guess I will go with Eugenio Suarez of the Arizona Diamondbacks. He's got 25 pairs. Not even close to how you say his name. Good. How do you pronounce it, Brandon? Eugenio. E-U-H-I-N-I-O. OK. That was way off. E-U-N-I-O.

Sue-R-A's. That's my pick. 25 dongs. 19 in second place, so that's good positional value. That's a lot of dongs. Nice. Did he say he's third base? He's third base. OK, Stephen, you have two picks.

Eugenio. A lot of Dom nice. Did he say he's third base? He's third base. Okay, Stephen you have to you Henny. Oh, I am going with New York Met Pete Alonso, okay No, I think it did I think we said it counts as one of you win. Yeah, you can count as one home run if you win Yeah, oh sick. Okay. I think we did make that rule Yeah, very dumb rule. And then I am also going positional value. I'm going Logan Ohapi.

Great pick, Steven. That's a great pick. Great pick. You guys are picking well right now. A lot of good picks. All right, my next pick, we won last year we were doing a Stella Blue thing at the Cubs game, we were there during VP.

And I watched this guy legitimately hit 15 straight home runs during BP and I was like big cat Who the fuck is that guy his name? Sayak Suzuki Pat Sajak say yeah, so yeah, I didn't say on Wiz Khalifa Leftfield say yes, Suzuki. So you can do left field or DH. You choose left field? I choose left field. OK, good pick.

I'm just going to say I'm going to say good pick for the Cub. Yeah. You've said good pick for every player, just about. I think your pick was bad. You wanted my pick tremendously. Very badly. We'll still talk. Zach, how do you think this is going so far? I think it's going great. I'm ready for my pick. It tremendous very badly. We'll still talk Zach. How do you think is going so far?

I think I'm ready for my pay. I'm great. It's going alright. All right couple of missteps But I am going to make my second pick with shortstop from Cincinnati Reds Oh, Ali de la Cruz good pair Fucker that's a great. That's a fun pick. Yeah This team is fun right now one of them so bad That's a fun pick. You got two fun guys. Damn it. Max's team is fun right now. I wanted them so bad. That's fine. I'm going to go with Mr. National World Series Champion Juan Soto.

Right field. Right field pick. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. I will go with, I need him. I'll do Kyle Tucker, right field. You need to say good pick.

That's a damn good pick. Hopefully they'll resign him. I will take a right fielder as well. He's way down the board as far as home run lists, but this is a future list. Ronald Acuna Jr. That's a good value good pick Brandon good value Brandon yeah all his home runs are ahead of him

Zach Zach I would like to go with that Salvador Perez ah position I see catcher run on catcher he has not caught this year. Oh wow Max He hit you with that one. I'm pretty sure that most of it Check check it check that but I'm pretty sure they just switched him to DH this year Wow He got you on that Shane He did all right you're back up

So he's the age Are you picked did you so you get any stats on that chain according to Shane? He said he's caught 40 times Oh, oh, okay. I might be wrong. Yeah Little bit. I know I remember there was a story That should be a fourth inning For that mistake. There was a story that he hadn't caught it all this year Didn't we talk about it on PMT that he said that he switched it all right. Oh Salvador Perez No, okay. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. He was on the seamed head Express. He's a great player, okay

Jerry yes, I will go with first baseman Spencer Torkelson, yep the Tigers Good yak gauntlet time. No bad. Yeah, I got a little time. Mm-hmm. Okay, and you have another pick. Oh, okay. Perfect I will go with surprised you I have DH and I have first base Next up I will take short stop Francisco Next up I will take short stop Francisco How do you feel about taking

The worst we do worst podcast we do every year How do we feel about taking meds knowing that Frank the tank is gonna scream about how much they suck for the entire won't do it Will not just like I might just take Mets knowing that Frank the tank is gonna scream about how much they suck for the entire won't do it Okay, who's up Zack I would like Brandon low second base Wow Brandon Lau correction Okay first second baseman off the board. Good pick. How you feel about that pig sack? It was a good pick. Feel decent about it. I'm sorry about the Salvador press thing. All good, man. I appreciate all the information.

All the information. Someone took junior Kevin Arl? No. Shit. Yes, Brandon. I'm working on two guys. Oh yeah. That's normal. That's so hot. You going skiing? I gotta keep my Mississippiake boys together. He was also on the team last year. He's going to get hot again. D H Brent Rooker. Okay. Nice little, little early for him,

but I want him and that feels like a reach. He hit 38 home runs last year, Hank. We're in 2025, man. He said it felt like reach. I know what I'm going to take center fielder Brian Buxton. Okay. Byron Buxton. Sorry. Box D. I'm gonna go with

a friend of PMT Atlanta brave first baseman. Good. Matt Olson. I feel great about that. That's a great one. I feel really good about that. Good guy. First Olson. Good one. I feel great about that pick. That's a great pick. I feel really good about that pick. Great fucking pick, PFT. Good guy. First team all good guy, too.

Shout out to everyone who's listening right now. You're trudging through. Voted least likely to be a pedophile. Yup. Amongst his peers in the athletic. Hell yeah. We are putting Joey Chestnut and Zach Galen and Merrill Kelly in this show, so it's not, you know what I'm saying?

Yeah. This wasn't a total loss of a show, even though listening to us just say names over and over is is I don't think I saved Matt Olson's number big cat Can you call him real quick? Yeah, I just want to tell him because when I got a chance to talk to him and walk I said I'm looking at you for dingers only I'm gonna say I made a case. I'm gonna say I got your coach on the line. Okay, like they do in the drafts. Yeah We're all for one on these is he playing right now it is pretty close to game time yet is Also, I don't think I've ever called

Just got three hours. Hex playing the Mets. Yeah, I don't think he's going to have his phone. Matt, big cat from the Dingers only league. I'm going to put you on right now with with the manager that drafted you. Hey, Matt Olsen, this is PFT Commator. I just took you in the Dingers only draft. I want to say we're excited to have you as part of the program

Let's give him hell this year, buddy And part of being a part of the program is you get unlimited ice cream at the office whenever you want to stop in I'll send you a card. I did notice that it worked for somebody Yeah There you go Cal Raleigh. There you go, Cal Raleigh. So anytime you want, 24-7, you're in Chicago, let us know, and you get the ice cream machine. Can we move into the clubhouse for a series?

No. Absolutely not. I'm here for the cream team. We can't do that. But you do get access to it on site here at Parcel Sports. OK. Sounds like a deal. All right.

Glad to have you part of the program. Give him hell. All right. Thanks, Coach. Thanks, Matt. God bless. All right. See you, Matt.

Thanks. That was a nice moment. Dingers only. By the way, Steven has a lot of phone numbers of baseball players, so he will have to call anyone who drafts one of those guys. OK. That's fair. OK.

Great pick. Max? That's your name? Okay, that's fair. Okay, great pick max That's your name. I'm going to go with Second baseman could tell Marta. Mmm Is that a pronounced name Brandon good one? It's a really good. Yeah, sure really good pick All right. I'm gonna go with the guy. He he missed he missed a lot of the beginning of the year, but's back now I think he's gonna make a gonna tear to end the year we're going to right field there Mike trout okay just looking up all right I was coming, that's why I said that before hand. Yeah, I mean I can call him. Yeah, give him a call. Oh, so. It's gonna get awkward. It's one thing when he does it.

I don't wanna hear this. It's gonna get awkward. You don't have to call him. Oh, okay, no. I thought I had an outstanding text to him, I do not. So yeah. An outstanding text. What do you think he's doing right now?

You think he's reading like Eagle season pre-herses? Is he playing? He's been playing. He's playing. He came back recently. He's got 12 homers I'm sure that's that'll continue You gotta tell him he's live or he's on there Yep, is he gonna pick up you think? I don't know. We've talked on the phone a couple times

Hank, there's a lot of pressure on you. I'd love to be a fly on the wall. I mean, we've all been texting about the we've I do this is coming up offensively my child was gonna get picked and I knew Stephen would have to call don't answer please don't answer probably not all right now take a picture of Hank and send him a text saying Hank just drafts you and dingers only Okay All right, I'm disoriented now Let's go with

Corbin Carroll is injured, so I'm not gonna go with him. I'm gonna go with right fielder LA Dodger Teosca Hernandez Teosca Hernandez, that's not it. How is it? It's the Oscar Hernandez Oscar Hernandez This whole draft was made leading up to me picking the Oscar Hernandez You're real fucking asshole. All right, you have another one sure his breath my birthday with my son. Oh great Wow I'm sure he's so excited about that Who do you share a birthday with Steven Elmo? Yep perpetually three and a half years old I'm going short stop Spanish for the mo

short stop Dan's be Swanson Okay, good pick. Yeah, good pick. Good flow. Good pick. Thanks. Alright, this might be a reach probably, but I'm gonna go first baseman, local kid, south shore, co-has it mass he is a New York Yankee that goes by the name of Ben Rice.

Okay. Okay. Sure you have the name right? We say local kid, you meant to you specifically? Yes. Yes. Yes, yes, yes. What position is he? First base. Southie? Coho.

Donny's, Donny's, Donny's. Southie. They call that Southie. In Boston. He's a skip. He's wicked strong. Clippers, skipper. I forget what their mascot was nice cool

Okay, you're up. I am going to go with Outfielder Specifically right fielder Fernando Tatis June Good damn fine pick a lot of work. Yeah, I'm going for I'm going for or on this so much. Oh, yeah That's good pick. All right, you're up Really glad this guy fell to me Colorado Rocky first rocky goes going between positional value hunter Goodman. Mmm All right catcher playing at altitude. All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna play a little defense on myself here

Let's see All right, these guys hurt no I don't think quite possibly yeah I'd say it's a high probability definitely definitely some hurt guys you try to you're trying to get my pick before I get my pick do you have the pick before me or what would what value would to me? What if I lose my time on the clock? You're running the clock. Your call has been called. Alright, I'm taking friend of the program, Christian Yellich. Good pick. That made sense.

Is he right field? Left field. Left field. Okay. So, I'm going to take a risky pick here. This guy is hurt. I think he's coming back within a week. Two weeks, three weeks. I don't know. Whenever he's coming back within a week. Two weeks, three weeks. I don't know. Whenever he's coming back. Yeah, I'm doing it, Max. God damn it. I thought no one was...

Of course I'm doing it. I was looking at you like you should do it. You had plenty of time to do it. I know. I know. I understand, but... I think I'm getting great value if he gets back healthy. Bryce Harper, first baseman. Oh, that's great value, Brandon. Great value. You really love Philly, huh? Great value. That's my first Philly. Yeah.

I do. It's important, Philly. Great value. I'm like, Zach, how we feeling? Feeling OK. If it's possible still on the board, I would like to go with the junior common arrow from the Tampa Bay, third base.

They just cut him. That's terrible. We're confirmed. OK, well, I'm not going to go with him. He's fine. OK, I'm going cut him. That's terrible. We're confirmed. Okay, well I'm not gonna go with him. No, he's fine. He's fine. Okay, I'm going with him then. Zach, how would you feel pitching against the team? The college team?

Head gear or no head gear? You could have a net in front of you if you wanted. I just don't, I don't know if I can keep it strike so I might hit him with the ball. I wouldn't want to do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't throw too fast, but fast. I wouldn't want anybody. Okay, but you could do it You're worried about them. I'm not too nice on the mound. Yeah, I don't want anybody with a ball All right, Jerry, you're up

Okay, I'm gonna go with Is on my squad last year I believe Yes, he was third base Jose Ramirez okay so damn fine pick good pick thank you so much and I believe I have another pick correct mm-hmm oh I will go centerfield O'Neill Cruz damn good good one. Thanks fun player great Yeah, this is great. I have my board I

Had him on my board as well. He was on my board everyone had him on the board We're about to get to the portion where we start picking guys who've already been picked. Yep. Yeah, and super hurt guys Some guys might not be alive, okay, you're up. Is it possible to go a Byron Buxton centerfield? Picked them two rounds ago. Oh, that's terrible my bad I'll go Trent Grisham, okay, okay What's position? What position is that Tringation? He's a center fielder Back to back center fielders. It's about that time It's about that time. Mm hmm.

Mm hmm. Mm hmm. You better believe. Yep. It is about that time, Brandon. Let me call this guy. Oh! Alright. Got him?

Whose number does Brandon have? Mississippi State guy? Alright. Let me just... Who's number does Brandon have? Mississippi State guy all right It's calling right now Sorry guys, yeah, you got this I had to look it up Who's he calling who do we think he's calling I'm calling my guy who do we think he's calling? I'm calling my guy. Who do we think he's calling? Oh, is this, uh, Stowers? Oh no. Is it, it's an Oriole? Mississippi State?

Checking Bobby Witt Jr. Oh, shortstop. Doesn't have that many home runs yet, but he's going to get hot. He will get hot. BW. Bobby takes BW. All right. I'll go. Wait, let me make sure he's not shortstop. I'll go. Third baseman, many Machado. Okay. Or fun to watch. Big time. All the Padres big time or potheads Right Pft. All right. I'm gonna go center fielder for the Milwaukee Brewers Jackson Churio Oh nice pick fun name to say to chip chip nice pick nice pick Um, I have a guy that I'm struggling with position with position okay

Rafael Devers is the pick that I would like to make How many games is he How all clarified before she said all of them he's been all of them has been the thing Okay, I'll keep my dh All of them. He's been a DH. All of them has been a DH? That was the thing, right? All of them. OK, fine. I'll keep him at DH. That's fine. Wait, he's listed as third base in baseball? In his own words, he said, I am a third baseman, right, Hank?

Yeah, but he hasn't played there. But he said, for the rules of the. I just said, I'm fine with keeping him at third base. Are you fine with keeping him at third base? At DH? Yeah. It should be up to him. Would you think he'd want a DH? Or do you you'd rather you might have it you might have a cold?

Fine that's tough All right similar to Mike trout This guy missed a big chunk of this season He is I think he made his return on he's had six at bats this year, but he hits bombs He's gonna hit a lot of bombs. Oh, he's had six at-bats this year, but he hits bombs. He's gonna hit a lot of bombs No, he's had 19 at-bats. Zero home runs G and Carlos Stanton. All right. Oh Battling back from double elbow to the nightice. I didn't even know he played baseball still. Yeah. What position is he? DH

We'll probably stay healthy. He go by Mike now? No. No. It's been eight years. Actually the opposite. That's him though, yeah. All right.

You looked him up and it still says Mike Stanton? No, my memory reference bank. Your memory reference bank. Your brain? Yeah. All right, it's on me. Okay. Is anybody? Yeah, no,. It's on me. Anybody? Yeah. Memory reference bank.

Um, let's go center field. Nope. Let's go. Andy pages. Whoa. That's a reach. Big time reach. Really bad pick. Is he hurt? No, just make it fun. Just reach. Big time reach really bad pick is he hurt no Back to back all right, let's go Centerfields off the board Right feels also off the board. I love my squad right now. I do too Let's go Let's go Third base

Isaac Parides Isak Isak? Hopefully he doesn't suck Cub for life Using the Cubs last year Oh hell yeah Alright I'm gonna keep

I'm going for just sex appeal I'm just gonna keep going I'm just gonna keep going I'm just gonna keep going cub for life He's on the Cubs last year. Oh hell. Yeah All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna keep I'm going for just sex appeal I'm just going for a lineup that that pops off the lineup card I'm gonna go Mookie bats shortstop. Mmm. He's had some injuries looking at him. He's nine nine home runs She lost a lot of weight. Oh injury But he's back he's playing but he I was looking at it I was looking it up because I was about to maybe take him but then I looked at it and I was like oh maybe it's because he didn't hit home runs when he lost all his weight he only hit one home run this last month. He's had a toe and he's battling but he's again like these are all big time players that are gonna you know have to contribute to going down the stretch and live up to their names. Yeah.'m also going to go in Mookie Mike stand and Mike trout that's that's a that's a power that is this one out you just interrupted max it's okay I'm also

going to go for a vibes guy I again I'm struggling with his position but I'm available at both of his positions right now I will be going with Vladdy Jr. okay I believe he's a first baseman now not a third baseman anymore not as many as you would think but you know you got to you got to go for talent at this at this mm-hmm that's a fact you got to go for upside yeah you gotta go for Talon at this. That's a fact. Yeah, you gotta go for upside. Yeah. You're drafting for upside right now. 100%. I'm gonna go with a Saber Metric pick. I got deep into the math on this.

Ideally, you want your players to get as many opportunities to hit home runs as possible, yes? Mm-hmm. Why not take a guy that hits lead off? Shortstop CJ Abrams. He's gonna get like four four more bats than some of your guys clowns. That's good saver metrics. Why would you say clowns? Because you guys got a bunch of clowns on your team. He's right. It's true. I will go with shortstop Jeremy Pena from the Houston Astros.

Spanish for pineapples. Seven of eight teams right now have a short stop. It's a big swinger. Oh, that was a mistake then. I wish I knew that. You could wait on, but just no idea. I'm going to go. Whoever doesn't have a short stop, don't. I have a.

Pick them. That's me. Yeah.'t. I have a. Pick them. That's me. Yeah. No I got Bobby. No Bobby. I got um. Left fielder?

Okay. Has anybody picked Taylor Ward? No. Then I'm picking Taylor Ward. Who does he play for? The Angels. Well that's a bad pick. Taylor Ward that is generic player number 45.

Shit, can I change my pick? This is just called Dingers only, right? We're just hitting Dingers? Why do I do that? I'm not worried about sex appeal. Taylor Ward? I'm drafting player first name, last name. If you met a girl named Taylor Ward, she's hot as fuck. Yeah, she's a chick.

Yeah. How do you know mine isn't a chick? Can I switch my pick if the person picks up? Yes. No. If the person picks up. He's going to get his next pick. No. What are you talking about? But it's a shortstop. Everyone else has a shortstop. Who are you throwing back? I would have rather had Gunnar Henderson just cause I can root for him instead of Jeremy Pena. Oh, can I just do that? You got to call him.

I'm actually, I'm actually fine with that. I know. I mean, everyone has a jury opinion. Oh, can I just do that? You got to call him? I'm actually pick up I'm actually fine with that. I mean everyone has a short stop I know, but I just wanted to see him pick up all right fine fine fine if he picks up otherwise. I'm keeping Jeremy Pena and whoever doesn't have a short stop just pick them or hear soon whenever you want Gunner hasn't responded to me since I asked him to go on his back. Well. You're not damn. What's it you what? You guys made me ask him that Damnit Alright, I guess I got Jeremy Pena He's a fine player. Yeah, I know. I just wanted to root for Gunnar Henderson. I was stupid. I don't know why I did that

He's only hit eight home runs, so I didn't see him on the board Fuck He's only hit eight home runs, so I didn't see him on the board Fuck That's a strong mess. All right, Jeremy Pena be a hero. Hey, it's me Gunnar Henderson But you already knew that he's gonna be so mad when he finds out you didn't get drafted. Oh One person still yeah, who still needs a short stop. Does anybody know? Okay, don't draft him right now, but One person still has a chance. He might still. Who still needs a short stop? Does anybody know? Okay. Don't draft him right now, but you know what? If you draft Gunner, I'll trade you Jeremy Pena.

Can I think about it? Yeah. Awesome. All right. All right. What'd you decide? I'll go next, right? Yeah, but what'd you decide about the trade?

Oh, right now? Yeah. Oh, uh You feel good about paying you this year? I mean he's got 11 obviously doesn't feel good about exactly Literally, I do feel good about him. I just would rather have Gunnar Henderson, but it's fine Don't know if is it cool if I keep if can we think about midseason? Maybe a swap can we table it till now and I go gunner now officially off the table Okay, that's fine. Okay We won't trade in I got you sorry about that. I'm gonna go with uh has a has Ezekiel Tover been taken No, I would like to take Ezekiel Tover. Okay. Well, this one is that young man shortstop what is this conversation why are you taking him I

was just keep trying to get keep track of who was taken who wasn't taken I know he was on the non-taken board and Ezekiel sounds like a strong name is I was just keep trying to get keep track of who was taken who wasn't taken I know he was on the non-taken board and Ezekiel sounds like a strong name is I was really going off her name I Thought you like we're like friends with I don't have too many guys. I don't know too many guys in MLB, but I feel like Okay, he might be a stick later in the season terrible pick. That's fair. Yeah Okay, Jerry you're up All right, I need a second baseman. I Will go. Okay, I will go with Jackson holiday bitch motherfucker. Yeah, go with him. I like him. It's good pick. Good pick. Good pick and

Then this is gonna be a reach cuz I don't think this guy has zero home runs this year. Okay. He plays left field. Oh, left fielder with zero home runs is hard to do. Jordan Alvarez. Oh, that's pretty, is he hurt? Yeah. He is hurt, he is returning sometime in the next two months,

month and a half. Yeah. Okay, that's good. He hits home runs. Yeah. Yeah. That's good. He hits home runs. Yeah. Yeah. Astro Jordan Alvarez, no progress. I'm pretty sure they found the fracture.

I think I drafted him last year right when he went on the sort of like a 60-day deal. Yeah. He's a great player when he plays. He's coming. He's returning, though, they said. Yeah, that's what they said last year. What was the last update?

No progress. No progress. We'll see. I read a different report. We'll see. Yeah, we's what they said last year. What was the last update? No progress. No progress. We'll see. I read a different report. We'll see. Yeah, we'll see. I mean, listen, if he- We don't know.

Nobody knows. Yeah. I know he was supposed to- I think he was a setback. Yeah, we'll see. No, we're good. No progress means no bad progress either. True. All right.

Back up, Zach. All right, would it be possible to Take Brent Rooker has Brent Rooker been drafted. He's been on my team for about 45 minutes. That's fair I missed that one on the lineup. That's what I won't happen again. Sorry Brandon Guys that no one would have drafted Ian half of the Cubs he available. Yes, great pick. I'll take Ian. That's a great pick. It's red hot right now.

We'll get two home runs on Friday. Which, if you're listening to this right now, was like two weeks ago? Yeah. Center fielder of the Seattle Mariners, Julio Rodriguez. Ooh, good one. Has's 10 home runs but is averaging 29 over the last three years. J-Rod. Good one. Good one. All right I'll take Michael Bush first baseman. Okay I'm gonna go with Matt Chapman third baseman Giants. Good pick PFT. Good pick PFT. Has anyone taken Riley Green, left fielder for the Tigers

yet? That's a hot sounding name. That chick has got the only canons. I would be choosing canons. Like really shiny. I would click on the Ole fans just to see. Super shiny lip gloss. PFT, who did it just take?

Matt Chapman. I feel like this person's been taken From the Colorado Rockies catcher Hunter Goodman. Yeah. Yeah It felt like it felt like that was true Good intuition, how does he play into really good intuition your aura team Hank? He didn't he just was high up on the board, which is why he had been taken already all right oh Man, this is tough now. All right. I'm gonna go just because I loved his walk-up song in

2016 Javi Baez nice What's his position he's a center fielder for the Tigers Good pick. Oh you got trade for PCA, right? Yeah, correct I am going with it's great like being around Steven because his baseball knowledge literally started this year. I Am going with what's his left left field New York Mets? Brandon Nimmo, okay Frank's gonna be mad about that one

I will go with Designated hitter I Believe that's his position. Let me double check. Did you get Frank? team? Yep, Yandy Diaz. And have it be all Mets? Yeah. He just gets all the Mets. This is going to be analytics. Good pick check, by the way. Good pick.

Analytics pick, short porch in right field, jazz chism, second base. That's just a real solid pick. Good pick. Good pick. A real solid pick. I will be taking catcher, not to be confused with Actor, Will Smith. Which one are you taking?

The Catcher, not the Actor. The Actor also hits. So I'm up. We're only taking it. Yeah. Right. Mmm. I gotta pick a DH here. Actually my favorite part of this Dingers Only draft is when they do the team that we

didn't draft. Yeah. That we should have drafted. Shane, are you working on that? Or memes? It's memes. It's all right. Shane just tried to talk.

Yeah. I don't think I have a mic anywhere near him. Doesn't know how. I can. Okay. do it right now. OK, so I'm up. And I am going to be taking, has anybody took Wilmer Flores yet? I have not heard his name.

Designated hitter Wilmer Flores. You sure he's still in the league? He's hit 11 home runs. It's here. Yeah. And the 11 is red, which I think means. Good. You sure he's still in the league? He's hit 11 home runs is here Yeah, and the 11 is red which I think means good good also fun fact about him Wilmer Flores bio He is the brother of Wilmer Flores. I'll be goddamn Wow. So there are two Wilmer Flores. That's sick. Which one did you take? I took Wilmer Flores. Oh has anyone taken mr. October Tommy Edmond Flores. Has anyone taken Mr. October Tommy Edmond? I have not. Dodger? Yeah. He's good. I'm gonna take him. Great pick. Mr. October. I have an issue. By the way, this, by the way, just so we're all clear, the official first day of this league is July 2nd, Wednesday, July 2nd. So these home runs don't count. No home runs count for the next eight days. Last year, y'all did the same thing. And then you started text message saying should we just start now?

No. You gonna do that again? No. Just depends on how many home runs you did. Have you reviewed that? Yes. Yeah. I think last year it was like, should we just start today?

Should we just start today? No, whatever. Okay. I have a- It doesn't really matter. I have a guy who I- Who would like vote yes if you'd like to start today What's today today today today or today when it comes out today tomorrow today today today this day?

No, it's just start June July 2nd. Okay, whenever Bryce Harper gets back. What position is your second baseman? Who'd you say? Mr. October? I have a problem. I have a guy that has almost assuredly been picked but I haven't heard him be picked and I haven't scratched him off so I'm gonna ask and he's definitely been picked so just tell me he's been picked okay who's got Jose Altuve he's not been picked not been picked I'd like to pick Jose Altuve second baseman for the good pick. Houston. Houston's not as good as Tommy Edmond He has way more home runs than Tommy Edmond. Yeah

Are you sure about that? I know Tommy Edmond's not even on my second base list. How many home runs does Jose Altuve have? 12 Tommy has 10 Not way more Few more. Yeah Has anyone drafted a been rice from the I got my list swap. There's my kid local kid yandy Diaz taken also been taken work Yeah, okay, Jose Altuve still been playing all second base. He's been playing left It said second base on the thing that I go. Yeah, but he's been playing left field I think he's enough base on the thing that I go I have but he's been playing left field I think he's enough second base that he should be a second baseman still correct Shane. I'm looking all right, you know look

Okay, all right, okay. We're good. Yeah, that's why I was more upset at myself because I didn't see him on my second base Vinnie Pascantino Who's that first base? Wales That is correct. Yep Pick him. That's who we're picking. All right Jerry perfect. I will do I need a last run or not not this one around I need a catcher. Um

But yeah, fuck it. Let's go with Let's go at wells god damn it Austin Wells god damn it wasn't gonna make it to you Hank. Austin Wells go with him fucking damn it Catcher okay now I need a oh My right field there right. OK, I will go. Man, I don't know much about this guy. But the name sounds like he hits home runs. I remember a couple post-seasons ago, he was hitting home runs. Nick Castellanos.

Yeah, he's had a good year. And his power numbers have been a little bit down. All right, I'll go ahead my right. Yeah, perfect So I can either dh Is a siya Suzuki available Looking at my draft Second round pick was this second round. Yeah, yeah fourth. Yeah, I'm picked tenth overall solid pick Great value, I mean that would have been an awesome. Yeah, I go that Jonathan errata, okay

Okay, doesn't hit her out ten bay dev rays Okay, just the rays now Ten bay rays. Yep Brandon needs a third baseman Eight years ago eight maybe more Another injury guy coming back Jordan Westberg Baltimore Orioles third base. We're to you at school Mississippi motherfucking state All right

I'm gonna take a Injured player, but he's got a lot of pop. He's only he's got ten home runs in how many bats 200 bats Shade Langley's okay the a's he should be back. I just googled it How many bats? 200 bats. Shay Langlairs. OK. From the A's. He should be back. I just Googled it.

He should be back in the next week or two. Yeah. So Jackson Holliday, we've ruled him as a shortstop. Yeah. No, someone already picked him. I picked him. You picked him. Second baseman, right?

Yeah. You need a second baseman. I need a second basement. I need a second basement. Yep, so I will be going with at second base Ozzy Albies hmm Let's go pick Atlanta brave good pick. That's good pick. Thanks mostly because the name I recognize. Yeah, yeah That's my I guess this is the end the injured round here where someone takes someone who is going to be off of injury soon I will be taking third baseman Alex Bregman

Good pick Would you like to call him check damn I should have done that pregnant yeah You he'd be like let me pick up every about Ozzy Albies is about how bad this current slump that he's been awful Yeah, but he's gonna be better. He should be better. He only has six home runs no outstanding test gonna hit 25 I think getting drafted on the scene was the spark that he knew He's betting 100 for June All right, I'm gonna go recurring guests for end of the program catcher for the Seattle Mariners

cow roll Great pick great pick Oh Braggman's calling back. Oh, there we go. Nice hand it to max. Tell him we're doing Alex. What's up, buddy? Yeah, we are doing... You are on part of my take right now. I'm gonna pass you to Max. You've just been drafted in the Dingers only league. What is that? Hey, Alex.

Pleasure to speak with you right now. I just want you to know that you've been drafted by team Max to the Dingers only league and part of my take. Do you accept? I don't even know what that is. Alright, alright. Tell them what it is! Dingers only league and part of my take. Do you accept? All right. All right. That's cool. It is a fantasy baseball league between the members of part of my take plus a few more. And it's just a fantasy baseball league. Homer's only.

All right. How's your health? You feeling good? You'll be back soon. I love that. Love that. Thanks for joining my team. Have a good one. I don't know if he did join your team. I don't think he accepted. You were too nervous, Max. I was nervous. You couldn't wait to get off the phone. I was nervous. I was nervous. Damn, dude. Maybe send him a follow-up text, Che, and be like, sorry for Max. He's a loser. I thought that went pretty smoothly.

No, you blew that. I thought that went pretty smoothly What do you think you were so bad? It was the first interaction with somebody I feel it went pretty decent I was pretty yeah, I don't know why like it clean that up There's something about a phone call that's more nerve-wracking. Max look at it clean that up I don't want pregnant to hate us. I start that way up or what? Your thumb is completely your face Okay, all right Steven Brigham's been draft did you wait who'd you take a car all it? What are you doing?

We're gonna move on Has anyone taken all clear Claire Augustin Ramirez The Miami Marlins no all right. I'll take him good pick great pick Hank. I had him on my board He's actually better than Cal rally Steven last pick mr.. Irrelevant mr.. Irrelevant. I'm just checking to make sure this guy is healthy He's got an absolutely dynamite name He's got an absolute dynamite name. Oh Yep, he's hitting like 150. This could be anybody. He might be second baseman Arizona Dynabax Tim Tawa

Dynamite that's a dynamite name to you. Damn Tim Tawa. Yeah Okay, I feel like we left a lot of who's your bigger yeah Augustin Ramirez, I want to say we left a couple guys well Corbin Carroll Corbin Carroll He's hurt how hurt though. I don't know he thinks get an MRI, but he is has 20 home runs I think I drafted all guys from the National League. How is that possible? Yeah Entirely nationally ever everybody on my team is in the National League. Corbin Carroll is a big mess. Big mess. Big mess. Big mess.

I thought... Stash him. Well, you can't stash him. We don't have any... Oh, you're saying... Stash him. Just eat his non-home runs at all. Yeah. So it's a race to see who's right fielder gets hurt first? Yeah. Meme, should we miss? And I take Freddie Freeman.

No, no. Yeah, first base. Soderstrom is a really good hitter, too. OK, well, let me go down the list right now. Yeah, yeah. Sean Murphy, catcher. OK, Graves, Tommy Ed. Sean Murphy, catcher. Okay.

Graves. Tommy Edmond. Nope. Got him. Yes. That feels good. Sean Murphy might not be the best hitting catcher on that team. That feels really good, knowing that I got a pick that the baseball guys knew.

Daniel Schneeman, the Guardians, for second base. Zach Neto, for shortstop. Yeah, Austin Riley third base Okay, it's not a bad year Tyler Soderstrom centerfield Joe Adele. Mm-hmm, and then right field Corbin Carroll. Okay, I think we did pretty good Yeah, I Think that was a good draft boys. I love my team. My team pops off. I love my team Yeah, Hanks you said something early of like They give you posted this lineup card. Yeah, that you want to like a star power And that's what I kind of want to read your lead you read your team real quick

Eugenio Ehune a who in Daniel Suarez nailed it see ya Suzuki Mike trout Ben Rice Drew and Carlos Stanton Mookie Betts Javi by hisez, Jazz Chisholm, Augustin Ramirez. Everyone say their name. Do you want to say all of our names? I'm Brandon. I actually think if you put my lineup next to Hank, I think mine pops with Aura just as hard. I think mine pops better.

I think mine pops more as well. Are we doing a pop off? Hank,, listen to this. Tell me guy for guy James would one Soto Matt Olsen Matt Olsen Hunter Goodman Jackson Churio CJ Abrams Matt Chapman Wilmer Flores Ozzy Alves. Yeah, no, there's the hero of their Popping so hard. There's zero. No, I'm popping harder. I'm popping hard zero pop Oh, yeah, let's you pop you pop first and then I pop Cal Riley. That's got to pop. I see the Cal Riley pops. Ronald Acuna. Yeah. Bryce Harper. Yeah.

Julio Rodriguez. Yeah. Bobby Witt Jr. Yeah. Jose Altuve pops. Yeah. Now I go Brent Rooker, Taylor Ward, Jordan Westberg. I didn't tell her word. All right. So can I pop? I mean, my say I'm popping better. OK. I'm Will Smith. No. No. Vlad E. Jr. a little. Marty Bregman. Pops Ellie. Pops. Pops. Pops. Pops. Pops. Pops. Ellie Dayla Cruz Riley Green PCA Tati's Devers. That's a good pop. Pretty good. It's a good pop. A lot of pop in there. All right. my start. I'll just throw this Shay Lang Lear's whatever Michael Bush is good Tommy Edmond

Gunner Henderson pop. Oh wait, did you make that trade? Yeah. Oh wait Jeremy Pena Manny Machado pop Christian yellowish pops Kyle Tucker pop Kyle Schwab er pops Byron Buxton All right decent pop my outfit. I mean I have to I have the Kyle guys. I think Kyle Schwab or Kyle Tucker this is gonna be the most competitive year of dingers only ever you want to pop Jerry I'll pop a little bit pop it off first base Spencer Torkelson. Yeah VH Ohtani, okay shortstop Lindor Centerfield O'Neill Cruz. Third base. Jose Ramirez.

Second base. Jackson Holliday. Could pop. Left field. Jordan Alvarez. I don't think he's going to play for the rest of the year. The pop was actually. The name is pop though. So the name is pop. The name is pop. Geter also wells labrum okay, and right field there cassilis. That's pop Yeah, pop. What do you got Steve? Catcher Logan Hoppy sick name Your definition for sick name Logan Oh hoppy. It's just names really weird. Oh, it's a cool name Pete Alonso first base second base Yeah, Tim Tawa. That's a cool name

Second base yeah, Tim Tawa. That's a cool name Shortstop dance be swanson swag Third base ice Parades is sock parades no pop The left field Brandon Nemo. This is the least amount of pop Centerfield Andy Pahez. Okay, no pop stages. Right field. The Oscar Hernandez. Yeah, incredible amount of non-sex appeal.

You don't know 90% of your team. No, I know. Yeah, absolutely do. Peter Lonzo, Logan Ohapi and the Oscar and Dan's B. I know know all those guys if you're to make Brandon Nimoy heard of A team logo for your squad. It would just be beige Beijing gray. Oh, yeah, I understand Zach and us with a pop Aaron judge pop Salvador Perez pop Brandon Lowe pop Wow Junior Caminero Trent Grisham, okay, Ezekiel Tover pop Ian Hap pop Vinny Pascantino I think if you said it right with the Italian hands it pops

Vinny Pascantino Pascantino Yeah And Jonathan Arata Why didn't you take Gunnar Henderson? It was a mix-up Memes do you and Shane do you have any like grades like which team which team pops the hardest? Give max an a

Go give Brandon an a yeah Brandon was really good. Mm-hmm agents. Why don't you say I was really Max? Yours is really good, too. All right. Thanks. I like big cat and pft's Wow, Hank, you're not gonna pop. Oh, thanks. Who's good. No, listen, you don't mean that who's bad. That's a better question Unfortunately, my man my man Zach Lot of ball left We also last year picked pitcher tiebreaker, yeah, we're not doing that I had a tough time. Lot of ball left. Lot of ball left. Lot of ball left. We also last year picked pitcher tiebreaker. Yeah, we're not doing that anymore. Oh, it was just tiebreaker.

It was just strike. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We could do that, I guess. Tiebreaker. We could just go same one through eight. OK. And it's strikeouts. It's just strikeouts.

Most strikeouts. Purely tiebreaker for last place. And last year we just spoke up. So Paul skeets give me a give me Garrett crochet actually big what are we doing we just spoke up just just take it oh give me scoobal what all right fine go in order I'll take that I don't know his name it's a no it should be going back show you Tommy no no the last pick no I did yeah, all right

Okay, all right Paul skeet wait. What is this? What are we talking? It's not gonna happen Paul skeins for me good pick Hank yeah, sorry. I'm looking for any pitcher that's in a home run this year picture that's in a home run this year no it's only an event that's for that they're all DH's heck oh Tony would be a great pick all right I'll give me scoobal good pick nice good pick great pick crochet Brandon Brandon was the one actually no give me Zach Wheeler Zach Wheeler mm-hmm McKenzie Gore. Why can't I why can't I get this for? for strikeouts Where the strikeouts?

Chris sale not hurt. Thank you what any hurt He got hurt that night? Logan Web. Hmm. Um. Hunter Brown. I don't know what that is. I think we fucked up too because so many names got thrown around. Is Crochet still not picked? Crochet is picked. Max picked. No, he was not. I switched to Zach Wheeler. We both made our picks. I switched to Zach Wheeler. was not so many names thrown around my crochet Matt er uh Zach I'll take crochet there you go yeah Chris sale fractured rib cage yeah that stinks he got it doing a diving play

with two outs in the ninth of a shutout I just wanted to fill and that's not gonna matter unless it does matter Good You got a pick there Jerry. I can't I can't find him the Asian guy on the Dodgers Yamamoto that's the name right? Yep, yep, there's definitely like five They have another guy that just got hurt right Sasaki. Yeah, no I'm not thinking that he's talking about Yamamoto. We got the most right out. Yes, you know ball. Yep him It's like the whatever

That's like the one team like you can't that you can't say Asian guy. They just filled with Asian players. Yeah All right, good job boys. All right, that's a great job. I think this is a guy for guy the best draft yet Yeah, it's gonna be a slugfest in the league this year. It's gonna be some be scenes Mm-hmm. Who do we think does the pitching challenge first the loser of this year max? I think Zach's gonna do before max does yeah, you are saying Zach's gonna lose. Let's make a joke. Zeke you'll he's going to lose We haven't gotten to the second yet Alright, okay. That was our show reminder no show Friday numbers three No show Friday for the fourth, haha

I'll be back on Sunday night on Monday. There's chill week You got one there memes One for one for four yeah wait no I got it no I know before yeah the four we just did yeah Yeah, I'm gonna go with 59 oh oh that's not gonna hit okay. That's terrible terrible number me. I'll take 11. What did you guess last means last? Okay, that's terrible terrible number me. I'll take 11. What did you guess last memes? 21 all right, I'll do 21 fuck. Just wrong with you 27. We want 27 71 71! 71. I have a meaning to fucking take 71. Love you guys. So So So So So Thanks for watching!