Pardon My Take - Dolphins HC Mike McDaniel, Nuggets Go Up 2-1, Zion Is In It + Fyre Fest Of The Week

Episode Date: June 9, 2023

The Nuggets take a 2-1 lead and Jamal Murray and Nikola Jokic are on fire. We talk NBA Finals and SCF with a slight detour (00:00:00-00:22:51). Zion gets put on blast and Ja Morant has a new defense (00:22:51-00:37:21). LIV clean up and the Vikings seem to be rebuilding (00:37:21-00:40:34). Dolphins HC Mike McDaniel joins the show to talk about his career, running the football, Tua, and whether or not he vaped on the sideline (00:40:34-01:42:17). We review Linsanity 38 at the Garden and finish with Fyre fest of the week (01:42:17-02:07:25).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Okay, let's go It's part of my take. Is anybody barstands sports? Welcome to part of my take today is Freie, June 9th, and heat culture is dead. Sorry to see it go. It's like Nuggin 5. Nuggin 5, I stand by it. That was a nice game that they had the other night, but there's just too much. We said that the nuggets have the best Batman Robin combo, maybe in the NBA. I think that's probably fair to say now. Best duo. Where now it's like they've got a Batman and a Robin and also the Robin has his own Robin to his back. You're talking about Christian Brown.

I'm talking about Christian Brown, who played out of his mind, Deli Plus game last night from Christian Brown. Incredible. And the best Christian Brown moment was when he was all over the place, making plays, driving to the rim, dunking. And then he's like, let me try a three. And then promptly threw it off the back of the side of the backboard. But Christian Brown was incredible. Yochich was insane. He had the perfect stat line for a minute there. He ended up ending the game with 32, 21 and 10, but there was a moment in the fourth quarter where they showed his stat line. He had played 40 minutes. He had 30 points. He had 20 rebounds and tennises. And it was so visit like visually beautiful to look at. And he is now. So historically, he is the first NBA player in NBA finals history to go 30, 2010. And

he, there's been five, 30, 20, 10 playoff games ever. He now has three of the five. It's insane. The other two Kareem and Wilts, pretty good company. Yeah. So also, it was the first triple double in NBA finals history for two teammates, right. So Jamal Murray also had a triple double. It was it was a double triple double last night. And Mike Malone, who is a guest to the show, not a stat pattern, not a stat pattern, but Jamal Murray was in the game with about, you know, a minute left up 10, not a stat pattern. 10 three bound. I, you know, I need to go back and look at YoKitch's games because I'm pretty sure like game

one, when you look at his triple doubles, they're all created differently. Yeah. Like they're like snowflakes. each one is is not like the last one because I think his first triple double You could call that was at the 40 point game. No, he had the 40 point game in game two Okay, all right, so so his first game he had I think was the most it was assist, right? That was the assist game. I'm not I'm not sure But the point that I'm trying to make is one game, he'll have like a million assists. Next game, he'll have a million rebounds. And the next game,

he'll have a million points. So like it's, he can beat you with any different variety of types of tripled. And he also like rolls out of bed in the first quarter. And he's already trending for triple double. I think he was like 10, 5 and 5 in the first quarter. It's like, oh, yeah, it's going to be one of those nights. Yeah, which is the best player on earth. I think he was like 10, 5, and 5 in the first quarter. He's like, oh yeah, it's gonna be one of those nights. Yocaj is the best player on earth. I think we should embrace the bait pick.

I got a question for you, because I don't think Yocaj wants to be a star. I think he wants to go to work, go home, face time's horses, and hop in the pool. Yes, does he want or care to be a superstar? That's the deleted Kevin Durant tweet that I don't know why he deleted it. I think he deleted because he didn't want it

to be taken the wrong way. He didn't want to be he didn't want to get in the muck on Twitter all day because that is one of those tweets that you throw out there and then you have to sit there and look at the replies all day. So yeah, so essentially what happened was Dan Levitard throughout the point, which I don't really understand whatsoever. He's basically said, uh, Yokech is magic and bird and America hates him. I don't think anyone in America hates him. I think he's probably the most liked guy. The only hate that you could say that Yokech has gotten this year was from the

imbied mafia. And that was directed because they were trying to prop up and be. He is universally liked in America. So I guess if you want to say if he was American, would he be a bigger star? Yeah, you know what? Probably because that's probably how it usually works where the guy who if if he was from Iowa or Oklahoma, yeah, you're right. If he played NCAA, if he had had a crazy NCAA tournament run with Oklahoma state, yeah, you're right. We probably would have liked, you know, thought about him more and

and propped him up more as an American. That's a fair point, but that wasn't the point he was making. He was saying America hates him. Again, I don't know how I've yet to see someone who who hates yoke. It's it's a really good tactic to use those to like create a guy out there and then get into an argument with that guy that doesn't exist. That's what 90% of the internet is right now. Yes. It's just you invented guy to be mad at. It's a straw man. I don't, yeah, nobody hates, nobody hates yoket. My mom said his head's too big for his body. That's not to hate. It's too small for his body.

Yeah. His hair cut makes his head look small. But that's not even hate. That's like the meanest thing that I've heard about yoket. And again, maybe if you're a horse, you hate him because where's your back out all day? Or he's never home. Yeah, you miss him.

Yeah, you miss him. Yeah, you miss him It's not around but yeah, he like yes If you want to say that a guy who if he was in he was born in America would be a bigger star in America I'm gonna agree with that So this tells me that Katie definitely still has burners this tweet was meant to be sent from one of his burners That's why he deleted it. Yes This was not meant for the main account and I think that maybe the reason why he deleted it, and he could have left it up because I think he wasn't saying anything bad.

He was saying that like, Yokech doesn't care for the limelight, like saying he doesn't care about being a superstar doesn't mean that it's not a negative against him. It's just like some people are built for media attention and they like that stuff. They want to be front and center all the time. He doesn't. He doesn't want to be front and center all the time. But I don't think that's a negative thing to say at all. No, not at all. He is, he goes about his work. He seems like an unbelievable teammate. Seems, I mean, we know he's an unbelievable teammate on the court.

Seems like an unbelievable teammate off the court as well. Yeah, I don't think I, it's a combo of a guy who probably doesn't love the limelight and also playing in a city in French. I said, doesn't have, like, if Yokech was a Nick or Yokech, yeah, he probably would have a higher profile. This is not really like the argument, like Denver and Denver is now going to if they win this finals will go forward and their profile will raise. But of course, Yokech isn't like the, the most talked about star in the NBA because of that full combo.

Not American doesn't, doesn't love the limelight in plays in Denver. He still is universally liked. You know what, I learned last night because I was watching the game with a Nuggets fan. If you're a Nuggets fan in Denver, you can't watch their games on TV unless you have a very specific type of package

because they're not on Comcast or whatever they use out there. The main cable service does not carry them. Direct TV doesn't even really carry them. So you can't watch nuggets games unless you go out to a bar to watch. You can't watch nuggets games. You can watch the finals obviously, but like during regular season games, unless they're on ESPN.

You can't watch them unless they're on national television. The Arsenal fans always tell us to stand crock. He's a bad owner, but he's about to possibly win a NFL super bowl a Stanley Cup and an NBA title all within what five years also our years Arsenal has been the best team in EPL all season right there definitely gonna win They're definitely gonna win the EPL this year. He is is Stan Kroki the goat owner. I think if Stan if Stan Kroki was was British, they would they would love everyone in England hates Stan Cronky because he's not from England, but if he was if he was English, he would be the most celebrated

person there. And we're just forgetting like all of our listeners from St. Louis, just like Arthur meme. Yeah, you know, the fists is starting to get tighter and tighter as we talk about how Stan Cronky's an incredible owner. Okay, also I know that Arsenal choked away the EPL. We do know that. We do know that we're dumb facing. Yes, we're dumb presenting. We're dumb presenting. My pronouns are shithead.

Yeah, but the game was great. Jamal Murr, I mean, for the nuggets. It wasn't, I was a little pissed at the heat because watching, I wasn't gonna turn off an NBA finals game, but I don't know if you guys had the same experience. I was sitting on my couch watching the game being like, it's not over the heat, but it was. It was always over and outside of Yokech and Murray who have been incredible and they both had incredible nights. The nuggets are just too tall.

They're simply too tall for the heat. That's what we said after game one, they don't have anybody that can match up with them. Bam had 17 rebounds, and the nuggets were still, had 15 more rebounds than this is the new heat. You've got bam, then you've got Chris came in junior that they can put in, and then, yeah, Zeller, and then who's left after that to guard any of their bicks?

Yeah. Nobody really. Like they put in Haslam at the end for a second. That was awesome. Yeah, it was really mean when they zoomed in on his hair. Yeah, that was mean. It was really. Him and Jeff Green both.

They liked to zoom in on their hair, which as a guy that will soon be approaching that level, I took major offense to that. So let it go. So do we think the heat or debt? Because this is now the trap that we fall into yeah where Now that the heat have to win a game would you say must win must win game four this is this is this is beyond a must win Yeah, this is the mustest win. So now they're backs the wall

Jimmy Butler has not been heard of heard from this series like huh, maybe I'm gonna get the narrative Hell and oh Jimmy Jimmy Butler. Does it get the narrative. How do Jimmy Jimmy Butler? Does it make you hate Jimmy Butler's hurt Jimmy Butler and Caleb Martin have not been good. I'm not. Yeah, I'm curious more just, you know, from Max's perspective, my, my compadre here, where everyone last year, you know, him and Tatum and, and Jimmy Butler's, you know, finals numbers, Tatums are actually better.

And everyone was calling Tatum last year, you know, biggest choke, can't show up in the big moments. Jimmy Butler, I like this Hank, is doing even worse than Jason Tatum last year. I'm ready to have the discussion. The nowhere to be found in the fourth quarter, where's the discussion?

Why aren't we having a Jimmy Butler choke artist? Right, Max? Conversation. Isn't it crazy? Should we start? Agreed. Terrible, terrible propaganda against myself, takes like always.

It's crazy. It's interesting. I do think he has to have a game where he takes over and wins a game for them, for that, for it to not become like, where was Jimmy Butler in the finals? I'm going to, I'm going to say that he's injured though. I'm going to be the first to report that Jimmy Butler's where, where, where, when did he get injured? He got injured when he rolled his ankle against the name of the six times.

Yeah, yeah, and then played very well in those three games. But you know how rolled ankles are sometimes it's worse than a break. You you wait three weeks and then it just flares up again. I do. Like I think he are in deep deep water because they're just nuggets are better and taller and tall tallness matters. Height matters. height matters in basketball. Sadly in life. It does, especially in basketball.

But if there's ever a team to not count out, like it wouldn't shock me if on Friday night, the heat somehow pulled a rabbit out of their hat, partially because for the 17th time, these playoffs, we've declared heat culture dead, they pop up and it's two, two going back to Denver. I would be surprised if the heat won. I think the nuggets are going to win it in five. In fact, I, I'm going to do that. I'm going to go out on a limb. I think that this nuggets team should win three

championships. I think I see. I think this should be a dynasty. Think about it. Look at the players that they have right now. Look how they're playing as a unit. They've got a great coach that knows this team inside and out with Murray, with Porter, Gordon and Yokech all together. And then you've got defensive help too that they brought in this off season that should be around. You should be able to extend them. KCP, I feel like with this roster, let's just say that it will be a disappointment to me if the nuggets win fewer than three in BHA. Okay. So they have to do that.

Otherwise, it's a complete bus. Complete failure. They have even won one yet, and we're already on Dynasties talk. Yeah. That's how it works. That's exactly what sports meet. I'm getting ahead of it because that's, that is going to be the conversation, make no mistake when they win this first one.

It's going to be on first take and they're going to say, how great do you think this team can win? Yeah. Michael Porter Jr. by the way, is not been great. He has not been good. They have been, which is why I replaced him as, as Jamal Murray's Robin with Christian Brown. Yes. Yes. Christian Brown was, I mean, that was that if you're a guy who's a true role player guy and like off the bench, seventh, eighth, ninth guy, whatever it may be, you just hope you have that one moment in the playoff run so that when they talk about that ring, they can be like, yeah, that was the Christian Brown, Christian Brown, like he had that game. He had, he's going to be featured on the one shining moment. Yeah, he's it because otherwise you don't want to be the guy who's like, oh, yeah, when you look at look back at it, like, oh, okay. So you played like three minutes

there, five minutes. No, he had an NBA finals game. He came into the game and what he scored was 21 or something something. Yeah, I think it was 21. He was on fire. I've got an interesting stat here in the playoffs. Big cat, you know, the center who has the highest three point percentage of all time. The center in the playoffs. Wait, say it again. I'm looking up. Highest three point percentage of any center in the playoffs. 15 points. Sorry.

15 points. Highest say it one more time. Highest three point percentage of any center in the playoffs. Who has attempted over 103. Oh, I say over 103. Because I was going to say like it could be like Shaq is like one for two. Yeah, over 100.

So it's a shooter. Oh, who is it? It's yokich. Okay. It's yokich. And I did. No, no, I did see the stat on NBA Reddit. Uh, and also who's the second to that.

I don't know who's second. Do you know who the last player is? Who's who's worse and be it? It isn't be. Yeah. Also Hank just might have looked at my computer. But yeah, I can't read that. I don't know who's second. Do you know who the last player is? Who's who's worse? And Bid. It isn't Bid. Yeah. Also Hank just might have looked at my computer. But yeah, I can't read that. It's also that's no brain. This is the dozen rigged. It is a no brainer. Yeah. And Bid. I was hoping it was a trick question. But yeah, I just wanted to say that for no particular reason. Yokech also. That's crazy. He's even got that many threes off. He's only plays like one round a year. Who would be? Yeah. Against your Celtics Max. It's insane.

Yokech is touch. Like he just throws balls up at the rim. And they he'll have shots that hit the front of the rim. You're like, how's that going to go? He's like, he's just rolls right in. Yeah.'s like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, Tapping the or we're doing a live show tonight in Chicago the dozen final final four What are we gonna say for true Joe and adventure? No, fuck you Hank first of all I'd like to say that Hank he look at you. I came into the office and and Hank immediately goes You know, I'm kind of rooting for Clim Dave and Eddie to win tonight Well, it's kind of similar to Max who said he was gonna wear a Quiggs jersey tonight Quiggs is facing off against my team in the first round And I reminded Max. Well, I just pointed out to Max that part of my cheese takes doing pretty well

And all the boys get taken care of at the end of the year So it's a team effort Everyone's part of it is that it's an interesting thing when when Hank PFT and I all sit down and we say Who's getting what money from part of my cheesecake? We take out a big board and it just has a loyalty ranking. And that's how we decided. When Hank's involved in that, I thought it was just me and you that were involved in it.

Hank was involved in it last year. Well, that's because we allowed him to do that. That's true. So Hank rooting against me right now, Max rooting against Big Cat, everything's coming up memes. Memes is going to literally be the owner of part of my cheesesteak. Congratulations, memes.

Meeems is a pink eye. Wait, what? Meeems is pink eye. Wait, what? You have pink eye right now? That was mean. That was mean. That was fun. We tapped up when I got here. Yeah, actually, you know, we didn't. You're so awkward. Thanks, and that was a lot of time.

You know what the most fucked up thing about this entire situation is big cat with Hank rooting against me. You know what Hank did last night? What? Hank hit me up at like, what? Oh, dude, that's firefist. That's firefist. No, but I think it's directly tied into this conversation.

That was right now. No, really against firefist. I know it's firefist. That's firefist. No, but I think it's directly tied into this conversation that we're having right now. No, we're just fighting for a super firefist. I know it's firefist. I, as much as I like you, I would enjoy the brand and lost. And yeah, that's the problem, PFT, that you keep running into is that you have the most hateable person in the world. Like I want you to win, but I can also live with you.

Like you losing could provide good content, which is good for the show, which I ultimately care about the most. So it's like, there's a, there's, you know, a rationale behind it. If it was just you, if you're playing by yourself, I'd be ready to be able to be able to be able to be. But playing with like a six of like LeBron and John Rocker, but he's so hateable that he's likable.

No, is the thing. No, yeah, no, there's no one I want to see win less. There's no redeeming qualities to Brandon Walker. Who would you rather see win Brandon or Max Max? Yeah, cuz Max at least like he's like a big howie Well, that's why it's that kind of like a you know, I almost say yes You know, it's never gonna happen. I almost said the meanest thing you say whatever fact guy It's really is it's close to world. I almost called you cuddly

meanest thing you see. Whatever. Another fact guy. It's really is. It's up against the world. I almost called you Cuddly. I'll take a. I'll take a. No, there's nothing worse than being called Cuddly.

Max doesn't. Oh God. He's got a very squeeze in between two grandcrackers. Oh, he's got a kissable face. Yeah. I'm gonna curl up next to him like a little puppy. Which I know he'd probably slip my throat. So, Panthers been winning tonight?

No. Oh. We're in our Stanley Cup preview. That all counts by the way. Uh, yeah, Panthers went tonight tonight? No. Oh, we're in our Stanley Cup preview. That all counts by the way. Yeah, Panthers win tonight. Okay, all right. We'll talk about the Stanley Cup on Sunday or Saturday. Sunday, Monday show.

We have a life episode coming. Yeah, I'll just say what we're doing it. My dad's having his memorial service on Sunday. So we're gonna tape on Saturday. The preview of the day. We're gonna tape the NBA reaction from Friday night's game. Yep. And then we're doing a life episode with Titus and Ricillo. Long episode, great episode. Great episode. So there'll

be stitch together that way. So we won't have any new content from Sunday. Right. That's going to be coming out Monday morning. But we should cover the finals and that should all be fine. And people might like to. Yeah. No, I think it's Panthers. I think hockey is such a fucked up sport that you shift to home ice. They asked the Panthers coach the dumbest question. Hockey reporters, I don't know.

Are they dumb? Are they hockey guys? No, they're not. Yeah, you can tell because they asked, they asked the coach, like, are you gonna bench Bobrovsky? And he was like, what? No, absolutely not. Are you kidding me? Well, they pulled them. They pulled, yeah, they pulled them And he was like, what? No, absolutely not. Are you kidding me?

He's like, they pulled them. Yeah, they pulled them because he didn't have a great start, but it wasn't all his fault. Yeah, no. Their team sucked. Yeah, game two. So yeah, it's it in the Stanley Cup finals. Can you imagine if you bench Bobrofsky?

No, no, it's not gonna happen. Uh, uh, the, all right, so I'll take the panthers tonight. Go peace. Yeah, go peace. Let's go peace. All right, before we talk about some other stuff and get to our interview with Mike McTianiel, quick word from our friends at Turo.

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string of tweets by a lady who allegedly has been spending time with Zion and didn't know about the girlfriend. I'll read, I'll just read a random one. Just a random random one. I let you spit my mouth last week when we fucked. You could have told me you had another horn pregnant. How is that gonna work moving us both to New Orleans? You think I would have found out. So that you can get the gist. Yeah, I'd like to read another random. Okay. Okay. Yeah, please. I motivated you to get back in shape. Yes. I let you fuck me all kinds of ways and film me on your phone at Zion Williamson and you impregnate a low budget porn star, DNA test or I'm done. Yeah, so that one's tough to unpack because it basically is like Zion is now having his girlfriends

and his girlfriend girlfriends and whoever his relationships are, they all are in the Zion weight loss program. But I kind of like I like the fact that she's letting him fuck her in different positions just to get a workout in. Yeah, like it sounds like it sounds like the other girl she's letting him fuck her in different positions just to get a workout in. Yeah, like it sounds like it sounds like the other girl, Mariah Mills, who's apparently a porn star as well. I don't know what she's a porn star. I, yeah, it is. It's a little confusing.

So it's all in the legend, I guess. This should clear it all up because it is. Anytime I get confused about a situation like this, I like to look at a black sports online headline. And that usually clears it all out for me. More women are planning to speak on Zion Williamson because they are upset he got an alleged squirt or pregnant instead of them.

I love the use of alleged press slides. 30 picture slides. Yeah, and a podcast point. That's wonderful, wonderful journalism on his part making sure that you don't get sued. She is allegedly a squirt.. Yeah, it's not pink confirmed So this is all legends Hank just looked at me like well, I mean the porn star like that. I think I can just be verified Yeah, yes, but you could also make the argument like he is a very well-known person anyone could start tweeting

about Spitting in mouths and fucking in different positions It seems real, but I also don't like. Well, he was on Snapchat. I'm sure he was on Snapchat. Yeah, Snapchat's like this. Snapchat's hurt. Now are we sure to get out there?

Oh, yeah. Oh, we sure it was Zion Williamson because the screen name was Zion Williamson. Right. Snapchat, it could have been anybody. Yeah, and as far as the spitting in mouth, I just try to spin zone this for Zion and be like, maybe he's not you know, not

finishing all his food. Maybe he, that's part of the workout program. All right. He's losing water weight that way. Yeah. What are you saying? I was just researching the topic on Twitter and so went to tweeted thoughts and glocks. Zion Williamson and John Moran documentary coming soon. Yeah. So, Josh, the other part, it sounds like he's aroused a far end the way she mounts Zion on yeah, I mean she had some she went on a tweet Spray oh, there's another one don't don't call my phone at Zine Williamson you lost me for good until I see DNA I'm done. Yeah, shout out Marsha Clark. Yeah, yeah, there was a I told you I told you you was gonna be the next king next to LeBron. I motivated you.

Mm hmm. Uh on this one. Maybe almost three twenty nine. The bigger your your baby mama's the reason you gained weight. She toxic. So now we have alleged uh reasons for gaining weight too. Because the baby mama was toxic was feeding him toxic. You know what that does sound toxic. It sounds like she was trying to get this happens in relationship sometimes.

If you've ever seen like my thousand pound wifer, whatever that shows, sometimes in an abusive relationship, somebody will make the other person fat so that other people won't find them desirable. It sounds like that's what the baby Momma was doing, trying to get him fat. The porn star was like, hey, I want you to be in better shape. I want you to be the next LeBron.

Sounds like she's the real writer, Doc. Yeah. And also the woman who went on the tweets about Zion, like said she's still moving to New Orleans. So I think he still has two girlfriends, which is not a rocks. Pending the DNA. Yeah, pending the DNA.

Also just a heads up design, like when someone goes on a tweetspree about you like this, don't call them right away because then they can be like, look, he's calling. Yeah, oh, you know what? This actually does explain a lot about Zion's weight gain. He's got two girlfriends, he's going out to two dinners a night. Yeah, that's, he's got to put on weight.

Don't hold breakfast. Yeah, I've seen, I've seen enough shitty sitcoms to know the plot point where you're at one restaurant and you're like, oh, I gotta go to the bathroom, you sprint to the other restaurant. Yeah, sit down for you're like, oh, I gotta go to the bathroom, you sprint to the other restaurant. Yeah. Sit down for a little bit. Oh, I gotta go to the bathroom and go back to the first restaurant.

This is kind of like when I eat dinner with my kids at home and then I come back to the studio and then we get like a huge spread of meal. Yeah, he's been eating double snacks and double pussy. Yeah, so Zion, maybe not the best day, I would like to get a comment from Mike Malone being like, why are people talking about Zion and not the nuggets? That I just imagining him being mad about that

would be very funny. And then we have John Morant, who his camp is now alleging that it's a toy gun. So if it were a toy gun, credit's a job. Because he basically like, it's like a nicotine patch. He's weaning himself off guns. Do you think, but if I was John Morant ant I'd be pissed off at my team for putting that Information out there because you're essentially saying that the gun that you held up in the live stream was such a shitty

Ridiculous gun that it could be mistaken for a toy gun. I think the first gun could have been the more the toy That was that was like a darenger. Yeah, so interesting interesting Like path for win for job when is when is Adam silver going to announce the suspension? Interesting, interesting, like, path forward for jaw. When is Adam Silver going to announce the suspension? Is it gonna be like at the trophy ceremony? Cause he's got a suspension ready for draft. Right before the first pick.

Yeah. That would actually be mean, but hilarious if he mentioned it right before the Grizzlies pick. Yeah. And then we also had an NBA news. It this really was a day that they were like, how many stories can we have that take away from the nuggets?

Chris Paul has reportedly been waived, but he's not waived because why would they waive him right now? They don't have to. And it sounds like if you're reading between the lines, the sun's basically sounding down and like, hey, we owe you $30 million. We're not gonna pay you $30 million. We're not going to pay you $30 million. We're going to probably waive you.

So we don't have to pay you 15. And then we'd like to resign you for way less. And doesn't feel like it's headed for a good ending there. The way that is being framed right now in the news makes it seem like Chris Paul isn't coming back. And so if you're Chris Paul, even if that was the plan, the way that it's played out would probably make you more inclined to not be a son next year. I also didn't I wasn't aware of the Chris Paul clip where he talked about his daughter

getting like bullied at school, which sucks. That does suck. But the example he used was he's like, yeah, my daughter was at school and a kid went up to was like, your dad's never going to win a ring. So I just want to say shout out to the 12 year olds in the Phoenix area who were listening to the part of my take. Yeah. I was like, wait, was that, was that the meanest thing? Like, it sucks, it sucks. There's no kid should be bullied, especially when their dad's a fucking professional athlete.

But the example using just being like, your dad's not gonna win a ring. Yeah. Yeah, can you imagine if somebody came up to your son in preschool and was like, your dad's never gonna win an I heart media podcast. It's lost seven or a half set. Also, shout out to Chris Paul for that, that quote that came out, what, two years ago,

three years ago, yeah, I'm kind of addicted to playing in the NBA finals. Yeah, he kicked it. He should be advising John Morant on how to get rid of the gun addiction. He just needs to go to the Lakers. He quit finals cold turkey. Yeah, he needs to go to the Lakers. I think let to go to the lake. He quit finals cold turkey. Yeah, he needs to go to the lakeers. I just let him go to the lakeers. Let's have fun with that.

It would be nice to see him. That would be a full circle moment. Yeah, Melo comes back. Yeah, I mean, Chris Paul was supposed to be a lakeer. Yeah. People forget that. David Stern said, no, that trade's not happening. Yeah, we get to Dwayne Wade can maybe coach the banana boat.

Mm-hmm. Whole team. The banana boat squad. All right, last things before we get to our interview. So the little bit of live stuff, there was a report. I don't know if you saw this that John Rom was like about to jump to live. So that would probably help understand the timeline

and how quickly everything went down. That's what I was saying to Dan Repport. I was like, it seems like a seismic event, whether that, and in the back of my mind, I was like, Scotty Sheffler or John Robb would be enough to make them come to the table. Right. And because you then would have the master's winner and the PGH MP. So the first two majors of the year be on LiveTor. And then the Rory's just going to root because there's reports of like live players being like no one wants

that bitch on our team. I think I also read something where they basically were like, yeah, we're gonna, we're gonna, what I was saying on Wednesday, like they're gonna find a way to make a lot of these guys not whole, but like pay a lot of the players, but they're like, but not Rory. He's not getting anything. Well, so with Rory, he said he felt like a sacrificial lamb when he was talking to media and he absolutely was. Yes, but not Rory. He's not getting anything. Well, so with with Rory, he said he felt like a sacrificial lamb. Yeah. When he was talking to media and he absolutely was.

Yes. They used Rory. Jamont hand used them. Yeah. So if I was Rory, I'd be I'd be furious. I still don't see a way how the players can look, Jay Monhan in the eyes as their commissioner and how he moves forward. I guess it's not their call. I think if enough players make a big enough think about it,

I'm sure they could probably figure out a way to get him. I can. I just go back to he probably is like it's you guys are gonna make more money. And it's like it's it's not right. It's the whole thing is fucked up on the J. Monahan part. I don't care about live like I did this is good for golf fans. I'm happy that all the players are gonna be competing against each other. I just think J. Monahan's a snake, but if I had to put myself in his brain for a second, he's literally just being like, guys, I know you're mad at me, but money. Yeah, money. There's money. Did you see the clip of Bryson going on CNN?

Oh, and they asked him about 9-11. Pretty much they're like, what about all the stuff that the Saudis did? Bryson kind of yada, yada, yada, yada, 9-11, which is the first time I think that's ever happened. But he also said that he hopes that because the live tour in the PGA are emerging that there won't be another 9-11 Yeah, and so shout out to Bryce Pishambo him and Mark Wahlberg handshake me him preventing a possible 9-11 David Getta all these guys just fixing the world golf music makes the world go around your your Apple watch talking again Yeah, Jay Monahan went on TV too and man, that guy should never go on TV.

He is, that was, as uncomfortable as you could get. And he did an interview and he knew the question was gonna happen where it's like, you worked with the 9-11, like, the people who, you know, the families of 9-11 and all these people, you worked hand in hand with them to put out this message, and then you stabbed them on the back, what are your thoughts?

And he just was, he had nothing. If you're Jay-Monhan, I go back to it. You can say, we don't wanna take their money, we don't wanna be in bed with a public investment fund from a state that's had questionable activities in the past, you can say that, or you can do the thing that he did, which was directly referred to 9-11,

bring the widows and the family members out. If you go that second path where you have the families and you talk about 9-11 explicitly, then you can't take the money. Yeah, you've entered them into the conversation. Then you cannot take the money. You can always be a half snake about it and say like we don't want to do business with them.

Their money is questionable. That seems like a big headache. That is not worth the juice isn't worth the squeeze at that point. And then you can be a snake and end up taking the money anyways. But you can't directly talk about terrorist attacks and what a shame it is that other guys are taking their money and use the families as props and then go behind all their backs. Right. Jimmy Dune, who was the one of the FGA guys who got in the mix it is that other guys are taking their money and use the family's props and then go behind all their backs.

Jimmy Dune, who was the one of the GGA guys who got in the mix and like help make the deal happen, worked in one of the Twin Towers. Wasn't there that day, but lost like he boss. He's mentor, 60 co-workers. Only wasn't there because he was trying to qualify for like the US Open or something. He was at a tournament. He just was on TV where recording the afternoon and he said on the golf channel, if someone can find someone who unequivocally was involved with it,

I'll kill them myself. Oh, okay. 9-11. Damn, he just went dog the bounty hunter on us. I'll kill them myself. Good for him. Okay. All right. Well, you know how Jay Monhan said that new information has come to light? I do feel like though, Jimmy Dune, like probably helped Jay Mahn. He was like, whoa, no, he pushed it through. Yes. He was like, quote, and he's like, what about the 9-11 thing?

He's like, whoa, he's like, ah, 20 years. Yeah, he's like, if anyone, there's part of me on things that where it's like him saying that we can push through this with them. Yeah. Probably made Jaymon and deck. Well, you know, he lost everyone he knows in 9-11. And it's he wants to do this. It's a shitty thing, but it's also how the world works.

Money and power just run everything. Like a guy like Jimmy Dune being like, oh, I get more power now and I get to be like, he's an now a board member of the new PGA tour. And he's he basically gets to do it like I was he has membership to every awesome golf club like Augusta Chinacock or shot 72 Seminole all these places. He now gets even more power just by being a scumbag and he can that's he can write he can go to sleep at night being like, oh, yep, I have all this power.

Is it Jimmy Dune or Jimmy Dunn? I don't know how I have to say his name, but if you look at his resume. I'll tell you who'd be done, guy who did 9-11, if Jimmy Dunn ever finds out. If he gets his hands on me, well Jimmy Dunn, let me introduce you to a man named George W. Bush. That would be an all time twist, wouldn't it?

Yeah, but Jimmy Dunn goes to jail for killing George W. Bush. If you look at Jimmy Dunn's resume or Jimmy Dune, whatever's name is, he was pretty much explicitly brought in just to close this field. That's what he does is he's like, he's a big power financier. He was brought in, I think, in November, 2022, pretty much just to do this mission. And which mission accomplished for him? Another, never mind.

I'm not going to go down that road. But it does seem, that's a good point that Jay Monahan was like, okay, I've got this guy who's lived through it, who's experienced some of that trauma. And if he says it's okay, then Jay Monahan gets to do like some of my best friends are actually 9-11 survivors. So my best friends were playing golf on 9-11. Yeah, so it's okay. Yeah. It's, I mean, it's just money wins. Yep, it's, if you haven't figured that out by now, you will someday money wins. All right, last thing before we get to the interview,

the Vikings, I don't wanna take another victory lap, but the Vikings seem to be doing things like rebuilding type things where they realize, hey, maybe last year was a little fluky. So they are trying to trade Dalvin Cook, probably gonna cut him, and then they're also taking offers for DeNiel Hunter, their past rushers.

So it smart moves by them to be like, hey, we probably can't replicate what happened last year. Maybe we should start figuring out a way to sell high on a lot of these things and start rebuilding for the future. But it does feel exactly like that's what's going on. Daven Cook seems to be on the tail end of his career. And it's sad to say because as he's running back, he was awesome what two years ago.

Three years ago. He's still... He didn't have a great season last year. I feel like when he plays, it's just when he plays. But this is also because his backup Alexander Madison kind of looks like him. So you just yeah combine all those yards together as far as their defense goes I know I know hunter's a great player But also that defense probably can't get any worse than it was last year Yeah, so if it only if it gets better marginally somehow and you get a good haul back for hunter

Then I think that you're in a better position. He was good last year. He had, uh, almost 1200 yards rushing. Maybe I'm wrong about that. I'm thinking of, I'm thinking of, of the clips that I've seen and the games that I've watched and played, but it seems like he lost a little bit of explosive. Yeah, no, he had, uh, it was actually his second best rushing season in terms of yardage, total yardage. So he, any played all the games, so I was wrong about that. I guess he, I guess he wasn't injured. It feels like he always missed like two or three games.

But either way, it's smart to sell on them. They're building the team around Kirk Cousins. Yeah. This will be a make this, this year is the year that we find out if Kirk Cousins is in lead. We're going to keep our minds open. We absolutely are. Okay. Let's get to our interview with Mike McDaniel. On the other side, we're gonna do 38 at the Garden review and FireFest before we get to Mike McDaniel. Farmers dog, whether you have a few week old puppy or a senior who's seen multiple decades, any dog person like me knows the most valuable thing

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Okay, here is Dolphins head coach Mike McDaniel. Okay, we now welcome on a very, very special guest. It is head coach the Miami Dolphins Mike McDaniel coach. It has been a long time coming to have you on the show So much so I'm gonna ask you kind of an awkward first question Let's get awkward, okay Did you see when pft and i texted you and you just ignore it because we did text you at the combine so you ignored it Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah, we can pull up the thread real quick because before we started recording here

you just said that we've been ducking you. We weren't in the impression that you've been ducking us. I mean, there's various definitions of ducking. Yeah, who's the duck? Yeah, we got your number from Kevin Stofanski, we had on the show, and we shot you a text of the combine. We said, Coach, we'd love to have. And we shot you a text to the column. I was a coach, we'd love to have you on, we'll do it anytime, anywhere. You tell us, crickets, crickets.

We're like, does he hate us? No, it's just plain hard to get. Look at what's happening right now. Yes, that's true. And this is consensual. Yes. So, I mean, it could be true that you texted me. It could not be true.

I lead the league in terrible bone, I don't know, behavior. Yeah. You know, there's a, I try to be present wherever I'm at. There's a cost at that. And it's communicating with people that aren't around me. So I apologize if I did, but I'm not sure if it's the case. Okay. So I've got the text thread right here.

Big cat on Wednesday, March 1st, texted you at 523 PM, Hey, coach, it's big cat and PFT from part of my take. We're in Indy for the next couple of days and would love to have you on the show if you have a free 30 minutes. We just wrapped up with Stefansky so he can vouch that we're not bad guys, and it will be fun. Yeah.

Hope all as well. And then I waited in a appropriate amount of time, and now we're in a half, and then I said, love you coach, dash, PFT commenters. Yeah, but you're not gonna read the audience. The third text, the one that was at 3.30 a.m. that said, you up. Oh, yeah, that's true.

I was getting a lot of those that night, so you might have fallen through the crack. Well, I just wanted to clear up that part because when you were offered, like yeah, we've been trying to get them on forever so much so that we were harassing them on text. So I'm happy that we at least have you on the show now and maybe you were respond to our texts now.

Well, what about, what about, what if I took it a step further and said not only, um, you know, are the doors open for this relationship to blossom, but I'm a huge fan of everything you guys do. And I was just trying to play hard to get hoping you guys would treat me like a hug girl. Yeah, we got you. We got you. We got you. We got you. We got you. We look great today, by the way. Your eyes. We eyes That's for brings out the eyes Yeah, you shouldn't compliment me but continue to yeah, all right. Well, it is great that you're on We we have wanted to have you on since you got hired actually probably before that

When you were with the Niners you were going viral felt like every week. I'll start there Yeah, I did yeah, yeah, I mean we's kiddled us kid like, this guy, Mike, he just the way he schemes up a run game. Hoof, let's start there, though, because we have always said that when the 49ers and now the dolphins, when they run the football, there's something about it that is just so beautiful to watch. At what point in your life did you fall in love with the run game? I would assume you grew up watching Mike Shanahan's offense. What point in your life were like, the run game is it?

I love this. Well, I did have a special attachment to the run game because of the Bronco fandom as it were. Specifically, 95, when when Mike Shannon first got there and was with Troll Davis and they you know there had been no championship to the city of Denver and then on the heels of a legitimate run game they got two Super Bowls out of it so there's always the seed plants, but from a career perspective, it kind of happened out of survival.

So I'm coming from the UFL going to Washington working with Kyle Shanahan again for you know, I worked with him to Houston and I had previously trained Matt LaFlor before I went to theFL, and he was in Washington as the quarterback coach. And right when I got there, so I knew him, but on top of that, there was Sean McVeigh. Yeah. There were a lot of competing voices, you know, you get there in mid-February, and you're in cut-ups with the with the whole coaching staff February and you're in cutups with the with the whole coaching staff and you're watching all the past game and then you go to the run game well the whole staff out of the whole staff the only person that was talking and really

orchestrating conversation with Kyle was Chris Berster about the run game. So then I thought to myself, you know, I'm into having a career and eating, you know, and living in a house. Maybe I should learn what that guy knows. And in that process there, carved out a little niche that, you know, it grew on me. I didn't really know that it was going to be that strong, but it, it, it ends up, it ended up being

coming in like a passion. Yeah. And I found value, you know, so I was able to have a job which that's awesome. I mean, the fact that it was born out of survival, which you could say for the run game, you like, you have to run the ball to survive in the NFL. So do you still have that same passion for the run game? Because like we said, like when the 49ers run the ball, there's something about it. It's like, it's sexier than a pass, than a deep pass. No, absolutely. Um, probably even, probably even more so at this point, you know, you take one season and you try to, you know, we're fortunate enough to work in an industry that's thriving and there's a lot of people that care about football. still the same exact, exact enthusiast. You just, one of the reasons it's so cool is

because you just don't, for it to look that way, you just don't, we'll say, I don't know, poop. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Poop it out. Yeah, yeah. Like, it takes so much deliberate work. And the reason why it looks different is because you're also coaching players to do stuff differently. So that, you know, that's why it looks and that's hard and there's there's also, you know, the element of players getting used to it players trusting that leap of faith. It's a lot of work that you can't shortchange.

I don't think there's been one, you know, this is the seventh team that I've worked on in the NFL. So it's the sixth time that, you know, it's all been in the same offense. It's the sixth time that we've taken, it's all been in the same office. It's the sixth time that we've taken an office somewhere, you know, for my experience. And, you know, that's, that's generally, I don't think there's like one year that we, you know, just ran, ran the ball at will. It takes time. So it's something that we've put a huge emphasis on. And you know, I think

though, you know, the reason why it's so cool to you is because that there's no shortcut to getting that done. Yeah. It's just time and effort and commitment and conviction. It is beautiful. I mean, some of the seven yard runs that you've had in the last couple of years have just been the most fun place to watch. I also love how you respect the fullback position. You've got a great comeback and Alec Engold, one of our favorites. Badger. Badger. Yeah. He is a supremely underrated player in the National Football League that I hope gains some momentum

because he is a man. He is a good player. He's awesome. We had to have a word with him a couple of years ago because he was starting to do the thing that players do now or they jump over tacklers and they try to earn. Yeah. You know that thing. And it's like, do you. Is that him down? Yeah, you're a full back low your shoulder. You don't go over people. You go through people. And he seems to have really turned the corner after that. How high do you get every time he runs somebody over? Very high. Yeah. I nut. I made him do that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty nice. But yeah,

like when you watch your run game, it almost seems like you make the wide receivers, the fullbacks, and the tight ends all play like offensive lineman and block like offensive lineman. You know, shout out. This seed was planted in 2005. My first year as a coaching intern in Denver and shout out to Mike Shanahan because he set the whole vision and he it was genius about him. So you know it's a wider seabed position is tricky in general because you get compensated, you get compensated for the past game. And typically you know good football players have pride and they try to do it, but the bottom line is it's not like, well, let's go pay this guy because he's got sick blocks. So how do you incentivize guys to participate in, you know, something that's, you know, less dividend

pain directly as, you know, catching a pass. And what Coach Shanahan would do was he would meet with, he would watch Thursday's practice, the team run period, which you know everybody does around the league in some way, shape, or form, but he would watch that portion of practice as an entire offense on Friday. With the thinking that the best way to motivate receivers to take pride and detail in the run game, the best way to really emphasize that it takes all 11 players to on the field to run the ball well is to have them all watch that together. And that's it's the peer pressure from the locker room guys saying dude what you're just going to you're just going to loaf and let me get tattooed by a strong safety. Like that was his kind of way of really emphasizing

and getting that done and that, you know, every place we've been, we've kind of taken that. And it's something that you just can't relent on. Your offensive coordinator has to be fully committed to it. The receiver coach has to be willing to drive it home unbeknownst to most people. West Wilkers like a low key run game guy and just loves receiver blocks more than anything.

So all that had, you know, for it to look different, you have to approach a different and you get what you emphasize. So, you know, not many people have described RunGame as beautiful, so I really appreciate that. Yeah, and such described it. Yeah. And my wife looks at me like I'm weirdo. Yeah, well, yeah, no, we love watching that.

Yes. I'm glad that you brought it up earlier. You mentioned that Washington Redskins team, it's not like I don't think about that every single day about how we had you, Shanahan, Laflour and Sean McVey in the same room as coaches, which one of you four was the alpha in that situation? I mean, clearly, the most physically imposing. You. Right. Yeah. No, I mean, clearly, the most physically imposing. You. Right. Yeah.

No, I mean, we were all, it was such a cool environment because, you know, Kyle was, you know, so young as a coordinator, he got started at 28. And he made sure when he got the job that his, it was because of his football acumen and not his last name. He was very, he was as prepared as a young coach as there ever could be. And we were all very, very ambitious and he was eager to teach and it was his vision him along with his father that was like, you know, who cares about the norms? Let's get, let's develop some coaches and find some talented ones and really not, you know, because they got a bunch of heat from

the Washington Post at the time, they called us the fun bunch, and that pictures of us and just kind of, you know, because we were very young. But he, he wouldn't, he had that vision, and we were just all pumped to see how good we could get in our time together. So Kyle was definitely the alpha. And then it was just like, who can wow the boss the most with this cool idea. And it made it, you know, you didn't really get a coast at all. Because you coast for a second and you look over your shoulder and one of your peers is giving three great ideas to, uh, to Kyle and his dad. So yeah, yeah. A lot of great minds in that room. For sure. Now, uh, big catch, you want to ask a question about, oh, yeah. I'll, uh, you have a hypothetical. Well, it's not about that. I mean, sorry. Uh, the question, not about Matt, it's just a

hypothetical football question. We asked this on every simple coach. All right. So you're down eight. There is two minutes left in the game. You have all three time outs. You're on fourth and goal on the like seven or eight yard line. Yeah. Do you kick a field goal or do you go for the touchdown? You're down eight. Well, if I mean in theory, in this hypothetical, in this high, in this high hypothetically, too, the team that you're playing against has the greatest quarterback of all time on the other sideline. Uh-huh. And then, I guess the semantics is an elimination game.

It's elimination game. Yeah. Yep. Get out the golf clubs. Mm-hmm. You know, I think I'd take elimination game. Yeah, yep. Get out the golf clubs. You know, I think I take a knee. Oh, okay. All right. Good job. Yeah. That would definitely screw them up. You know, the funny thing, I think I felt for Matt because I knew what he was doing. And anytime you make any decision as a coach, it'd be a farce to not submit to the fact that I don't know what's gonna work.

If I knew that, I would do that all the time. So you have to make a calculated decision that you feel good with. I talked to a man after the game. You know, we talked through if there were some disparities in thought process, but he knew why he was doing it. So, you know, it's just one of those deals that If you're right, you're the man and if you're wrong. Yeah yeah. If you're wrong, it gets brought up on part of my take for the rest of history.

For the rest of history. And what's ironic is you continue to do that and because Matt LaFlor is one of the greatest guys I know. All he does is needle me and text me about how I need to come on your guys' show. Yeah, so I mean, we love Matt LaFlor. Question off that. What a good looking guy, right love Matt LaFour. Um, question off that. What a good looking guy, right? The best looking guy, the best little guy.

He's the best looking. And I'll say this because I know Sean McVeigh would get upset. But he's, he's of the, of the fun bunch of that group. He's by far the best looking guy, not even close. You haven't seen me with my shirt off. That's true. But I'm still taking Matt LaFour. Matt LaFour with a change the ranking. Yeah, just true. True. Um, all right. So based off that real football question off that, uh, when it comes to those type of decisions on the sidelines, how many guys are in your ear? How what's the process that goes through those split

second decisions of go for it? Don't, um, I know that you have a chart, but is it like you're going with the chart or is there some gut involved as well? No, there's a lot of that for me. You know, I think it's so important to be super prepared for any game because what I don't want to happen is ever to look in hindsight at a decision to be like, well, that was influenced by emotion. So what I'm as paired as I can possibly be for the opponent and then understand that my best will either be good enough or it won't in terms of my contribution, but the team, the players on the field are going to determine the outcome.

So that being said, that preparation also goes to the people that you lean on in your analytics department for all the game type scenarios. That's something that every Thursday, during the week, for the last hour and a half of my work day. I meet with those guys. Basically, every head sets different, the procedure that happens on ours in particular is I'm just very,

I make sure that I don't negatively reinforce information on game day. So, I let people know that I'm very open to taking any information that's legitimate. Having said that, they kind of get a rhythm of like, you know, there's a certain tempo when you know exactly where you're going with certain things that you'll be talking on the headset like coaches won't jump in with the play suggestions or anything they just let you roll. Same thing goes with with the analytics, analytics, advisors is they're talking to me when you know as we've mapped out potential scenarios when it's appropriate to get me the information. Yeah, so I look at that as all tools, I think the whole point of having a head coach is so that someone can make a decision. I look at it as my job to take all the information from all the

talented people that I work with and make a decision and let the players let me know if that was the right or wrong decision. That's smart. I mean, I would, I would just be like, fuck you, dude. Why do you tell me that? It didn't work. Well, and like, it's not like I just overnet. This is something that I've been thinking about, you know, if I were to be in the in the chair, making the decisions, I've been thinking about throughout my career. And it's something that you have to be very mindful of because you have to understand that no one wants to talk out loud and hurt the team's chances of winning a football game on game day. Everyone, all they're, they're all on have the same thing at stake in terms of, you know, you win more football games

than you lose, you're employed. So let's win the game. So no one wants to do that. And, you know, I find that if you just, if you can just say nothing and move on, guys get pretty embarrassed, but you don't, they, they still try to come to the plate. Yeah. And you just don't want to engender a situation where it's like, yeah, I wanted to say something, but I didn't know if you'd yell at me. Like, no, even when I'm frustrated, I try to do my best to understand the circumstances that they're operated in. That's a very smart answer. I would coach pretty much based on vibes entirely.

Just vibe it, bro. Yeah, just vibe it. Just go out there. Like if it's like late November, it's, you know, 23 degrees in Buffalo and you're wearing the Tilly uniforms, I'd be like, we're looking kind of candy ass today. We're not going to be able to run the ball. We might as well just try pass and forth. Now, do you ever look at the teal uniforms

and cold weather and be like, you know what? This isn't running the football uniforms. I mean, it's generally how based on my decisions are in consequential factors. I think, man, just really get my brain turning. Yeah. No, they're candy. Yeah. I can't wait in the cold. I think that they're, they're great for September and October. It's white out or when it's hot outside. But then once it gets, you know, the weather starts turning, you get sleet freezing rain, kind of candy

has to be wearing those heels. And Dolphins players look colder in those uniforms. See, and but I think I found the root of the problem. Okay. You guys have who's your uniform distributor? I don't know who it is. Okay. Um, real back.

Our actual uniforms are aqua color, not teal. Uh, so you've probably been seen teal and been like, those are candy. Really aqua strikes fear in the heart of every Man, I mean that's just Now we're just talking facts. Yeah, who can I see candy for every color? But yeah, sure, that's a valid point though You know, you know, it's cool about the I When I got the job this was like I'd been in six divisions

Never been the AFC east. I didn't really know that much about the dolphins relative to, you know, the way I know the rest of the league. I kind of thought I assumed that the fan base had to be kind of like, I don't know, maybe like a Southern California or something where, you know, there's a lot of things to do. So, you know, they're distracted and maybe they'll be around for when you're winning. This, this, that was not the case. This fan base was just like a sleeping giant that, you know, haven't won a playoff game in now 24 years. But it's really the fan base and kind of like the appreciation of history where, you know, I'm kind of digging the aqua now.

Yeah. Where before I was, but I kind of, there's so much history tied to it. You know, those 70s teams were impactful and kind of changed the whole subculture of or of Florida South Florida sports. This is unbeknownst to me. Might have learned so much in one year guys. Yeah But so you know Don't I think the I think the fan base and the players. They're into it

So judge it until we do something about it. Maybe you'll get your awkward jersey. They do. The players look faster in the awkward. That's for sure. Like, do you ever just go out on the practice feeling you're like, Hey, Tyree, can you just run some routes just so it can watch how fast you are? Yeah, you know, I mean, when you got it, why not, you know, he's in the building and he's really good at running around so very fast and it's really fun to watch. However, I try not to make him do a necessary stuff. I want to keep fast, fast.

But I have to tell you, in person, Aqua, white, Green, Red, Fuchsia, dude looks fast in any color. Yeah, I believe that. I believe that. So based on the wide receivers, I had a question about Andrew Hawkins had a quote talking about you as a coach and how when you came in,

he was essentially like, he told us, throw out everything you know, I'm gonna teach you something different. How does that go when you have those first meetings? Has it been like hard in your career to get guys to buy in right away, knowing like, hey, I'm gonna do something totally different, like you just have to trust me,

because I'm always fascinated with that, with coaches, where if you don't have the Super Bowl rings like Bellachack, to get guys to buy into a different system than what they know, has to be a little bit daunting for like day one. Yeah, you know, it's a pro, you hit Nail in the head. That's a problem that I recognized. Literally my first full-time pain job in NFL is 2006 and I was a offensive assistant and Andre Johnson was a 25-year-old

ascending superstar and Yet you want to add value, but How is that guy gonna listen to this guy? Right. That's something that, and so I had to figure it out, and it was pretty, pretty quick that I realized, oh wow, on the professional level, like these guys want to make the most money they can. They want to be the best they can. There's a lot of pressure on them.

And basically anybody that can help them do that they'll listen to. So the objective was not to, like, it's one of my favorite parts of this job is I fully know that my job is to exceed the eye test expectations when I first meet people. Like, I have to earn their listening. And, you know, when you really think about it, should you desire to be entitled to people just assuming you know what you're talking about. It's not the worst thing in the world to have to earn their listening and earn their trust. So to do that, it takes an annoying amount of preparation for those first meetings specifically. Because you have to forecast, okay, I'm gonna say this, now what will be the natural inclination of the listener, of the player, what are their experiences,

what's gonna be the resistance, how do I get in front of the rebuttal that they may voice, they may not, but how do I get in front of that? And basically tell a story of whatever I'm pitching to them and make sure that it's very tight just because I you're exactly right. The eye test on top of the fact that I'm approaching it differently, it's not going to be a, you know, generally different makes people uncomfortable. And so people want to be comfortable and you just really relying on that known fact

that hey, all players, if you can be of resource to them, don't care what it looks like. Relying on that allows you to go bold that way. Yeah, good. An alternate method that maybe you could try is just bring back the two earring look that you had. Remember that?

There's a, that screenshot of you on, I think it's channel nine news in Denver. It's just Michael McDaniel Broncos Ballboy. You've got the two big hoop earrings. You wear those into a meeting and you get instant respect because you're like, this guy's gonna steal my girl. Right, or like, you know, does he have any financial advice? He looks responsible.

You know, multitude of things that are going through their heads. You know, so many adults tell you, oh, you're gonna regret that. And you're like, at that age, you're like, huh. And then at some point that falls at a fashion, yes, you're kind of laughing at yourself. I think it's a good look.

I think you bring it back. Maybe if you win a Super Bowl, you need a way with anything if you win a Super Bowl. Yeah, I could, you think I could wear clogs on the silence. Yeah, definitely. If you win a Super Bowl, the dream, you go barefoot on the sideline. You definitely won one with the earth. I like that. Yeah. I got a couple of two of questions. Uh, the first One with the earth. I like that.

Yeah, I got a couple of two of questions. The first is we're part of two a non. Two of them? We have two of two of two questions. We're part of two a non. We're believers. Why is it do you think that two a gets criticized more than like the average quarterback?

It's kind of a bizarre situation. Is there anything that you can put your finger on? It's like guys just't, for some reason, like the, the prognosticators and the analysts don't see what I'm seeing. Like what, it's, it is a little, he gets talked about differently and more than most quarterbacks. No, there's a couple of things going on. I think, because I've because I've wondered the same thing

in terms of the polarization of people. Like a lot of people have strong opinions either way. I think, you know, the starting point is, he is different. Different is kind of, makes people uncomfortable. I'm not sure if you guys noticed, he throws with his left hand. Yes, right. Yes One which is crazy because he's right handed But he just learned how to throw left on instruction by his father. So that's a little caddy up

That's one I think You know throughout the history of, people have shunned others when they can't pronounce their last names, and there's a lot of letters. That's true. A lot of vowels. That's true, I hate Coach Kay. But to me, see, I knew it was there. So many consonants, I mean, geez, dude.

It's a bunch of things. It's a bunch of things. Right, what are you trying to prove? But also, I think, any time, there's also a lot of conviction. And when there's a lot of conviction with people, and they're over the top about it, people tend to speak up more in the negative. And then once you dig your heels in, now all of a sudden, you know, three years down the road, you're, you're, you have a, what are those dolls that,

voodoo dolls, voodoo doll in two of, because he's the main of your existence. Why? Because you said you didn't like him one time or tripling down. So who knows, all I know is, you know, I think, I feel great about the guy. Yeah. Yeah.

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the famous story about after one of his concussions on the plane, you guys talked and then he pulled up McGroober and you laughed. Now, did you laugh because he was watching McGroober, like the idea of it, like he thinks this is a good movie. Ha ha, what an idiot. Or were you actually laughing at McGroober? I mean, it happens to be like my favorite show of all time. Okay.

I'm going to leave all time. Okay. It's red flag. No, I like the Groober, but favorite of all time. Excellent. Red flag. No, I like the Grover, but It's a beautiful time. It's an excellent film of all time. It's I mean, I Say it and just I really like the movie. Okay, I'm probably some emotional Movement that's some deeper, you know Shawshank redemption or something would bring out, but it's up there for me because I thought it was so aggressively

ahead of its time for 2010 and Will Forte makes me laugh. So he was watching the movie because I can't remember how it came up, but I put him up to watch it. And most of the time, I pitched that movie, it falls on Duffy ears, no one follows up with it. And he had it downloaded before that week of travel and was prepared to watch it. And I was dying laughing because whatever judgment,

I just didn't really realize that his sense of humor would be directly Correlated with with mine, you know, we have different styles and whatever so I got a huge kick out of him thinking it was this hilarious I did mm-hmm, so you basically waited you were like my groupers my favorite movie I'm trying to get everyone on the dolphins to watch it and then you waited for two to be concussed to convince him to watch it. Do I have that right? Look, oh, here we go. I got him now. This was, this was, it was stream of consciousness. Randomly came up in a conversation. I probably dropped a weird quote. And, you know, whether or not it influenced his opinion on the movie you know that's that's for him to tell us yeah I mean it was I tried to show it

realistically I just tried to show it the night before every game and it just fell on deaf ears. Have you tried to convince Vic Vandio to watch it? I'm sure he's. Oh, I mean, Vic, all Vic does is bring it up without without just I'm not even offering anything up. He's just like, Hey, man. So when's the last time you've seen me groomer? No, it's not quite the audience that I chute for. Yeah. Yeah. That's got to be, I mean, Vic Fandro is an incredible, incredible defensive coordinator. Do you guys, have you had like dinner with him? Do you guys have a lot in common other than football? Yeah, it is outstanding. It is outstanding. I very much love just, I think it's so cool how there are things that we have a lot in common with. There's a lot in common just how we look at the game.

And then there's things like our personalities and our default mechanisms are way different. Yeah. Which to me, I don't want, if I had a bunch of Mike McDaniels run around here, people would figure out that it's not that cool. You know, so, I think that balance serves great purpose, but the bottom line is, you know, I think he's as good as it gets as football coaches in Nashville, Bully. So I mean, you know, I'm still fired up that I tricked him to come here. I mean, it it's gonna be weird after all these years with Denver and with Chicago,

seeing them in like a super warm climate all the time. Yeah. It's gonna be really strict. You're going back to the aqua thing, weren't you? Yeah, no, but he probably hates it. He's got that big Gore-Tex jacket that he's had basically sewn on his body for the last 10 years. Yeah.

Yeah, but then all of a sudden, Vic Fangio was the Mike McDaniel. Now he's buying Aqua colored cars. Yeah, because it's not true. I have another Miami related question for you because you've been seeing courtside with all the big celebs down in South Beach at the heat games. Now they're playing against the nuggets in the finals. You're a Denver boy who you're rooting for in the finals.

No, this is easy. I feel great about it. There are my two favorite teams in basketball. It's really, you become a professional football coach, and you kind of, like I could care less about the Broncos after I stopped working for them because it's the business year in, right? But I always stayed true and followed the nuggets and you know, I had been, had my heart break in the bubble when Jamal Murray went down, et cetera, et cetera. But I don't lose any sleep whatsoever to pledge my allegiance to the Miami Heat because, you

know, we had the fortune to have in the Miami Heat coaches to training camp last year and you know, spent way more time than they needed to give me, talking with, talking with all of them and just hearing their problems of that offseason that they were trying to solve that, you know, in their opinion, they had a lot of good players and their biggest problem was trying to involve everyone because they were so deep and while trying to develop them. And this was very different from the narrative that I heard from rest of the America. It was like, yeah, there's one star

and what are these guys' names. So I've been paying attention all year, and then, you know, I've been fortunate enough to have tickets thrown my way, and you better believe I jumped on that. That's added to the whole deal, but I feel very personally invested into their whole of tickets thrown my way and you better believe I jumped on that. That's added to the whole deal, but I feel very personally invested into their whole, into their whole movement.

Because even beyond that, it speaks so much to what, you know, I believe in in team sports. The team playing in the finals was last in the league in scoring. That team was negative point differential for the NBA regular season. It's the first time that a team that had negative point differential ended up in the final since you guys remember. Minneapolis Lakers 1959. Yeah, of course, let me forget the Stuff that they're overcoming the injuries that that persevered through and really the way they approach

Ho Chiin and the whole program in general getting first-hand exposure You know, I'm too deep man too deep. Yeah, all right. Yeah turn your your back on. That's fine. Regardless. It's good ball. And you know, it's not that heart breaking to be like, yeah, I want to heat the win. You know, the nuggets have never been in the finals. Compressed a lot this season. Joe kick's not going anywhere. Not gonna lose any sleep. All right. Yeah. All right. That's fine. And can I once again? Can I uh, one piece of advice and coaching? Now, I've never told this to any other coach. I've been waiting for you to come on

the show because I've got, I've got a wrinkle that I think could revolutionize offensive football. And so I come from a rugby background. I played rugby in college. I played for about 10 years in men's league afterwards. Whoa. And, uh, yeah, pretty sick brag. A lot of rugby. A lot of rugby. I wasn't very good, but I picked up enough about the sport to realize that if a NFL

coach incorporates design, downfield laterals, more frequently, they have the opportunity to break out big chunk plays on a basis that I think the risk outweighs the reward if it's coached correctly and if it's taught correctly with the right technique of going into contact and then pitching backwards to a guy that you know is going to be there. Now I waited to tell this to you and you only because I think that you are the mind that could actually get this done in the NFL and And I'm telling you, the sky is the limit. If you could figure out a way to do this, like maybe three, three times a game, two, three times a game, that's really all it would take to have those make a difference.

Well, see, the best part of the whole scenario is is there are some people that have simultaneously developed the same thought. It has worked its way into the league. There's a couple teams that I've seen do it this past season, but strike that from the record, because this is the first conversation that's ever been had about it. So when we copy other teams, I would love the credit. Yeah, okay, you got it. You get it. And I get the good. But that's out there. What you're saying is not that outside the box, you just have to have the right known scenario. And you know what, you have to have a receiver with a lot of composure and ball skills to be able to.

But there's some traction. The way it teams pursue and compress tackle to be able, but there's some traction. The way teams pursue and compress tackle in the league, you'll get people to overplay and you know, we try to once against the chargers, we pretended to unintentionally fumble, and Tyreeke just picked it up and took it to the house. Yeah, that was a round lateral.

Yeah, as they call it. Same thing. Yeah. You'll look like a genius if you start working this into the offense. And then you guys will pump that narrative. Yeah. And I know a bigger guy's audience is so. And then watch this.

Watch this. After you start doing that, then teams, they stop over pursuing and they spread out too much and then boom, that's a one break tackle away from taking it to the house without even pitching it. Now normal ball is explosive and unguardable. Yeah. I asked you're doing there. Yeah.

I got a couple last questions. The first one, I don't know if you've been asked this before, but were you vaping on the sideline in Buffalo? What? You were vaping on the sideline. There's a clip of you. You went water vape, you went with your hand, your mouth, and it looked like you were vaping.

Were you vaping? Hmm. I mean, what a confusion question. I don't know this technology, you guys speak of. Having said that, I will leave you with this. In past lives, I have raped. Okay. The idea of regardless, just the idea of that being something that people are talking about

after a playoff game is annoying enough to provoke me to never do it again and have sense quick classic game style. Plastic weekend style cold turkey just like alcohol but I you know as far as a game I you know'm sorry, I wish I was better schooled on the subject. I just don't totally know what you guys are talking about. Yeah, it's crazy. People would even assume that. All right. So I had one last question.

It's a rowback question, RHOBACK.com. Use code take for 20% off first purchase. QZips, Polo's hoodies, joggers, shorts, rowback.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. I last year, and this is also, I'll admit, um, I've been emotionally damaged, uh, by the Chicago Bears, but I think I said before the season that you were giving me Mark Trussman vibes. And, uh, I was like, when the, it's good when it's good. And then if it starts to go bad, will guys still listen? You had a season where you proved that, like you can do it.

You went through the ups and downs, you went through some losing streaks. When you were going through that losing streak, did you have at any point, like a mini crisis of confidence, like shit? This is different than when I'm the head guy here. Well, first of all, the whole reason we were in the losing streak was because I heard those comments.

And there's only one way to prove that I'm not. Little adversity, self-inflicted adversity. Yeah, so really that was, so here's the thing I know about coaching in the National Football League. You won't always win. And when you don't, it's very, very black and white. You lose, you suck, you win, you're awesome. Okay. So one of the biggest, I don't know, uh,

things that I was looking forward to ironically was I knew that is something that happens every year to multiple teams and you go one or two directions. So I looked at that as like This is this isn't negative. This is actually when people need a coach. Yeah. Like, this is the most important time. This is when you are actually most doing your job. So, I was very, very motivated. It's not necessarily fun.

But to say that I, like, I didn't, it was when, not if. That is something that I think that I think people have this misnomer in expectations of, whether you're in professional sports or football, coach or just a regular average Joe as it were, like these expectations of avoiding adversities is what it can be catastrophic because adversity will happen. Yeah. Get your mind around that. There will be losing streaks and the competitor in me, the flame was lit and that, that's a hard thing to do is to pull yourself out of it, would have liked to pull ourselves out of it quicker.

Circumstances didn't allow it, but to me, I see those hard moments is when I'm earning my check. Yeah, it's good answer. And it's why I changed my tune. I was like, look, because it worked the first couple of months and then you hit that rut. And you guys still got to the playoffs and ride it the ship.

It will always be the case. And I'll never be surprised by it. It's been right there in front of me in my entire career. No one's going to give me anything. No one's going to, you know, I have to earn it and what other way would I want to? So it was going to be Kenny lead a team, Kenny stand up in front of the room.

Then after that, it's going to be, okay, well, he can get him to play hard, Kenny win football games. Then it's going to be, all right right Kenny pulled people out of losing streaks. Then it's going to be Kenny do anything in the playoffs. Then it's going to be it will stop it on. It's going to be it's going to be retroactive not proactive. And that doesn't bother me.

I understand that. Yeah. And that doesn't bother me. I understand that. Like this is, this just in, if you approach things in sort of a different manner, there's no, I wouldn't expect it to be any other way. Yeah. So, have to prove myself to earn your faith and what a way would I want? He kind of like took every Monday episode apart my take

with when you win, you're awesome when you lose your suck. Because that's pretty much our analysis. That's our analysis. That's not an indictment. Here's the thing. You cannot win and lose at the same time. Trent Dillford said that. Yeah, that's true.

That's facts in the National Football League. Bam. So there's a lot of people that are heavily invested. I know this when I watch sports and the only time I'm nervous in sports is when it's another sport and I care about the outcome. Okay, it is gut-wrenching to invest emotionally into something, have no control over it and that motivates and elicits emotion. There's also a lot of economic factors. This is a huge business, and there's fantasy football galore.

There's so many people, and so I take it as like, people care. So they're going to be happy, and there's too many compounding variables. So I'd probably get too much credit when we win. And I'm going to get called into question. But I don't look at the job as like I'm entitled to people just, what, just believe in me. It's a result business. job is like, I'm entitled to people just, you know, what, just believe in me. It's a result business.

And people once you're around, if you're getting the results they want, and it doesn't bother me at all. It's very, I can understand it, wouldn't expect anything less. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's not got to be a very strange part about being a coach is you try to tune everything out, but you can't listen to the radio because there's gonna be some talking about you at the radio.

You can't open up a newspaper because someone's gonna be talking about you in the newspaper or on any of your favorite websites. Are you able to actually like tune everything out? Or does some of that, if it's criticism, if it's praise, is it inevitable in this day and age that any coach is going to be absorbing some kind of his press glippings? No, I think it's, um, when, for example, if we lose a game, I already know.

So I know exactly what's coming. I don't know the details, um, but there's people that are employed to do that. And so, you know, when I'm, you know, getting ready for a press conference, I made aware of certain things that will probably come up, and a lot of that can be negative. But like, I've always recognized that as an issue and this just in, like, I, I, I, I spent my whole career preparing to be able to do the job of a head coach, not becoming a head coach. In that process, you have to, you have to kind of problem solve that. And like, whoa, this is, this is hard. You get, problem solve that. And like, whoa, this is hard. You get, I mean, there's countless times that have seen really good coaches get unnecessary blasted for results that they only have part controlling. But that's kind of what you're paid to do, you know, somebody's going to

be held accountable for things. So the managed expectations, I think I'm very comfortable with what to expect. The pattern is crystal clear, like literally. It is like the, I've been on teams. I mean, shoot, in 2001, it might have been in San Francisco, might have been in San Francisco, might have been one of the best coaching jobs that have seen anyone do that Kyle Shanahan did, okay?

He was getting blasted, people were begging for his job at week five or whenever, whenever we were like two in what week seven, we were like two in five or something, can't remember. where we were like two and what week seven, we're like two and five or something. Can't remember. So that why? Because people, there's a lot of things going on.

There's a lot of variables that are compounding and the only thing that you can directly attribute a lot of times is the actual outcome. Yeah, so this is all very, it's very smart things that you're saying. And you're convincing me right now that you definitely have a fire burner account on. Yeah, I'm sure I'm sure you're getting some takes off like because you're handling it all very emotionally, healthily, I think, but you got to get those takes off.

No, you, I definitely don't have that's what her account, but my wife definitely does. Oh, nice. She gets him off. So when things either way get really over the top, I mean, she tries not to say something to me, but she just wears it out of sleeve because she cares so much. And there's, I mean, I think it's the weirdest, it's gotta be such a tough position for her. Because like, you know, she, she and her mind's building me up. And then all of a

sudden, you know, people are, you know, I'm not sure if you guys paid attention to the news, but there was on several occasions. People gave it to me last year. And that's what I, I'm very comfortable with that. That's part of the responsibility of the job and like, you don't get to have your cake and eat it too. Like, it's a really cool job. There has to be some give and that's one of them. But for loved ones and stuff, that's where it's toughest because they have no control over it.

And a lot of people, it's toughest because they have no control over it. And a lot of people, it's really weird too. Like, oh, it's zero to 60. I was under the radar in the NFL for 15 years. No one talked about me. And then I'll send all sorts of people have opinions. It's a transition. But I think you have to be prepared for that going into the job because I am ambitious and I have high expectations, but I was pretty sure I was going to break Don Schulte's record your one. All right, so we'll leave you with this. It sounds like you need a free subscription,

you and your wife, we're gonna give you two free subscriptions to part my take. You can get on your phone, free subscription. But here's what, yeah. For the first three months. No, free lifetime guarantee free. Lifetime. Yes, and here's what we're gonna do for you

and more for your wife. Whenever you guys lose, we will make sure to say at least one nice thing lifetime. Yes, and here's what we're going to do for you and more for your wife. Whenever you guys lose, we will make sure to say at least one nice thing about Mike McDaniel. That, I mean, that's all that's all she needs. Yeah. We will say all the mean stuff, but we'll also add in one nice thing. That, guess what? You guys are employed to have opinions and employed to have opinions and in an indirect way you guys are part of my paycheck and don't forget that. No, it's something that so really when you say to sparingly things about my character and my personality, you know, I'll just let it roll right off.

It's part of the deal. I know it's coming. It just, I just had one nice say to me, hey, don't lose then. Yeah, yeah. We're also never wrong with our analysis. Yeah, that's right. We've never been wrong.

I would just say, the damn should have run the damn ball. Yeah, that's what we say. Yeah, right. Well, I, sometimes I do get confused. I do need reminders. Do the plays that work. Yeah, run the touchdown play. Tyreek fast. Yes. Boom. Listen, run the touchdown plays undefeated shots. I was just saying the same thing. Um, Scormor points and the opponent.

Yep, it's pretty simple. Now Rock and Plants. Yeah, run the ball, stop the run, heat up the quarterback. We know ball. Run the jewels, KU, ULS. Yeah, I forgot the rappers names. No, I'm just a big mic guy. Yeah, you are a big mic guy. Yeah, yeah,

you're a big mic. Kill Mike. Kill Mike. There it is. Sam getting old. Um, that's the band. Run the jewels. Yep. Wait, you can't say you're getting old. Kill Mike and LP, right? That's right. Do you have any, uh, you're, you're, you're the same age as us. Don't say you're getting old. We'll see. Everyone's getting older, my friends. Oh, shit. Not me. Shit.

I mean, I live out my age progressively younger every year. I'm 26 now. Yeah. Well, you get ID at bars all the time. Yeah. You're like, man, I'm going to need to see a picture. All right. We'll

And how dare you wear that coach. Thank you. It had been a long time coming to really appreciate you coming on and hopefully you're recurring guests now. So whenever we ask you to come on, you have to come on. That's by contract, but you did get two free subscriptions apart in my take. So we're good. Well worth it.

No, it was, it was honestly awesome. You guys do a tremendous job, have carved out a really cool fixture in a market that didn't really exist. You guys kind of kicked the door in, so I'm very appreciative of your patience and your understanding of my terrible, terrible phone manners. Yeah, I just texted you just now. I said, don't ignore a text. So now you have our numbers. I just text back new number. Who does?

Lose my number. Air Rogers. Yeah. All right, well, thanks so much, coach. Oh. Mike McDaniel, fittingly, was brought to you by 3G. Of all the things in life, one of the best has to be getting high whenever you want, wherever you want, without the paranoia of consuming sketchy black market bunk.

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Okay. A couple things to get to. So I should have mentioned it responsibly. Okay, a couple of things to get to. So, I should have mentioned it. We taped Mike McDaniel, I think two weeks ago. If you are on Twitter, if you're an online NFL fan, you probably saw the sad news about the creator of two and on passed away, left four kids and his wife, tragic accident. Eric Carmona.

Yeah, there's a go fund me. I just treated out the link. I just donated. So if you could donate even a couple bucks, you know, I know he provided me with a lot of content and laughs over the years. So we had taped Mike McTayno before this had occurred. We probably would have brought it up with him.

But if you can donate, please do. Seemed like a great guy guy and he made a ton of Funny content that makes the NFL. That's why we watch the NFL for the storylines and the fans and everyone involved guys Like that on Twitter make the NFL a better a better product. Yeah, better sports watch. They make sports fun. Yeah, he made sports fun So shout out to him. Sorry very sorry for his family and the loss that they're going through But yeah, it's it's a good cost to donate to a donated 10 grand. So that's awesome. That's he's the man So yeah, so if you can please do Let's do before you do fire fest. We got 38 at the garden

You can only watch it on max max.com We're doing reviews every Friday for the next six weeks. We did, or we did succession finale. We did blood sport. Great movie. 38th of garden right now. Next week we're doing man on fire. Denzel Washington. Hank has not seen it before. It is an awesome, awesome Denzel movie. Jake. Yeah. That was good. Yeah. Come on Jake. I didn't know you like to get wet. 38th of the garden. I liked it. First off the bat. It was nice to click into it and it's 38 minutes.

38 minutes, which they did on purpose. That wasn't the light. It was beautiful. Yeah, it's a quick watch. Lin Sanity, the crazy, crazy stretch, which looking back really was insane. Like the fact that he went from sleeping on a couch to dropping 38 on the Lakers and Kobe and that whole stretch and then that I completely had forgotten

about the after the 38th garden against the Lakers, the game winner against the Raptors that and I, I didn't believe it when I was watching the documentary. So I went back and I watched the final possession. I have never seen anything like that where the entire crowd went crazy for him. He was in Toronto. And he, he hit a buzzer beater against the Raptors. And the whole crowd went nuts for it. Yeah, it was wild. So he, when he, when he got called to the Knicks after he got cut by, you got, I'm trying to remember the teams that, that next to the Warriors, the Warriors,

the Warriors signed him initially because their GM had seen him play with the GM sun and AAU, you know, like this kid can play. It was a rocket, I believe he didn't get a chance with the warriors didn't get a chance to the rockets. And then he gets the next kind of his last chance. And he doesn't even have a place to stay. So he's staying at his family members couch, like he's literally his brother, his brother's couch living on a couch in New York City and playing for the next trying to get a fair shake of it. And then his brother's like, well, I've got some friends coming into town. So,

sorry, you can't stay on my couch anymore. So his brother kicks him off the couch. And then he has to stay with his, with his teammate on his couch. Landry fields, stay at Landry fields, place. And then Dan Tony is like, well, we don't have any more players to put in. Everybody's injured. I guess we'll give Jeremy a shot. And then he gets in the game. First of all, Tyson Chandler, when he starts playing along side him on the next, doesn't even recognize him as a teammate. I love that story.

In the hotel, they run into each other on the floor of their hotel room and Tyson Chandler thinks that he's a fan and is like, I don't know how they're letting fans like security probably fucked up somehow. Cause this guy's not like, I don't know how they're letting fans like security probably fucked up somehow. Yeah. Cause this guy's not like, I don't know who he is. Tallass fan. Tallass six three.

Yeah. And so, so Lynn finally gets a shot and then as he's staying on Landry Fields couch, he just goes on this insane run and now he's set for life. It's crazy. Like the sliding doors moment involved with Jeremy Lenny. He was at the right place the right time and he took advantage of it. I did like when they were talking about him sleeping on a couch and they were doing interviews with different players from the team and a mom

Shumpert was doing his interview from his movie theater. That was pretty nice touch. But yeah, the whole story is nuts. It also was cool. Hey, newsflash. We're white guys. So we don't think about it the same way and watching a lot of the interviews of Asian Americans being like we've never seen this like we never had someone to look who looks like us Playing in the NBA and to have them do it in New York in that stretch where he was just out of this world good. It's a it's a cool story that like We shouldn't I remember living in it and being like, this is insane, when is he gonna stop? I also like his name was so perfect for a Linsanity was such a cool thing to say.

But yeah, he ended up making $65 million. Good for him. $65 million off sleeping on a couch and having, and the best part of the whole story was, he won a ring. He won a ring, he won a ring with the Raptors. The his agent telling him after he's sleeping on his brother's couch and he knows he's going to play that night because they're there's so many injuries. His agent being like, Hey, just so you know, this is it. Like if you don't, if you play poorly, it's over.

You're never playing again in the NBA, you're going overseas. Like, it's it. Having that pressure is insane. The, uh, the as a like guy moment for me was when he did the wave off, because I remember watching that wave off and, and seeing the highlights of that and just being like, that kicks ass. That was awesome. That Jeremy Lynn had had the balls to do that. Not also realizing that if you're an Asian person, you're watching this,

that's like a moment for you where like, yeah, you can, you can step up and you can be like, you can be considered an alpha. Yeah. Uh, take Toronto bad sports town. Toronto is a bad sports town. Although, you know, he, he, that was the thing that popped in my head as well. It's like, hey, it's definitely say Toronto's a bad city. That's just Canadians. Oh, they, they got a, that Canadians get a pass. They're nice. Yeah. Yeah, but then they got their street cred, but back when they cheered for Kevin Durant's killies blowing up. and they got their street cred back when they cheered for Kevin Durant's killies blowing up.

It's being hard. Is, yeah, is Canada a bad sports down overall? Yeah, they can't win a fucking Stanley Cup and it's their sport. Bad sports down. This was a very smokin' ass out right now. That's kind of like, that is on the other side. That's like a Turkish soccer riot that they've got going on up there. Aliens might have heard me too. Do you see the reports?

There's like a police report. Haven't seen them yet though, so they still haven't done shit. But there was a police report that I got shared of a guy calling and saying, Aliens later in his backyard and there's 10 foot figures. No picture shit. So probably so bullshit. Jake sent his note, and this was a very Jake note

that only he would think this was watching this. They showed the box score and I thought to myself, how could the next be 12th in 15 in February? Then I remember that this was during the lockout year when Chris's day was opening day. So when Sanity almost didn't happen if they had it and hadn't ended the lockout two months prior. Wow, Jake, always on it.

Very cool, Jake. He just sees the numbers, he's like, wait a second, 12 and 17 in February. It was a good, I love that they did it in 38 minutes. So we talked about this on the show. A bunch of words like they stretch out documentaries now where it used to be a one hour, an hour and a half. And then now they're doing these six part series

for something that should be an hour. This clicking into it, thinking it was gonna be an hour and a half, only being 38 minutes, which the story, that's, you know, that's all you need. It was perfect for the story. Yeah, yeah. So that coincided almost perfectly with T-Bomania too, right? No.

2011? Yes. Maybe. 12, so it was in February of 12. Yeah, but it would be the 2011 NFL season. I believe so, is what I'm saying. Yeah. I thought you were talking about T-Bomania and football,

like a college football. No, and professional football. Yeah. So you want to retract your very harsh know that you just gave me? I said no. Yes. Maybe. Okay. All right. But I did see did he did cover all of his bases. I remember just that like six months span being like what's going on in professional sports? Yeah. Sports is weird right now. People forget that the the bear started T-Po media. I think it was it was at Mary and Barbara who didn't he he went out of bounds. He shouldn't have gone out of bounds

And then he had one of his first comebacks. Mm-hmm. It's nice to be part of those history moments on the wrong side I also started calling cappernick's career. That was Fuck what was his name the guy who played everywhere Jason Jason Campbell Jason Campbell had a spot start on Monday night football against the Niners Colin Kaepernick just absolutely torch the big. Yeah. Jason Campbell big. Yeah. Just wait till next year. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But but uh, 30 at the garden, much recommended. And it's also like Hank said, a quick watch, which is they really did like, it was a perfect length for a story that wasn't a long story, but it was cool to like, relive it all and

remember how insane it all was. So go watch it max.com. Next week, Man on Fire review. Very excited for that. Everyone watch it max.com. Sign up now has a great list of all types of documentary shows, everything, everything on max.com and movies, Man on Fire. All right, Fire Fest, wrap us up.

Fire Fest of the week. Henry. Yeah, I think three or four different times where I know all honesty, like this is the dumbest thing I've ever done, in consecutive days. So I'll just rattle them off. Got my new car in New York last week

so I was driving into Chicago. So I took two days to do that. I drove six hours and then six hours yesterday. I obviously packed. I had been staying at my apartment in Hoboken, so I had some stuff left there. I had my computer and my work set up because I was working out of there. So I had a pretty packed car, a very packed car. It was completely packed full of shit that I was, you know, my final belongings that I was bringing with me to Chicago. Obviously, I have my golf clubs in there,

stopped in Youngstown, Ohio. That was the six, six, you know, six hour mark. We have a coworker from Youngstown, so I hit him up. It was like, is there any good golf courses around there? Had to golf. Is that why you drove the golf? How I took it, no, I had to go. That's definitely why you drove my car. That is why I drove my car. That is why I took my car. That is why you drove my car. I had to, that is my car. That is my car. 100% why you throw it.

I had to bring my car out here. You throw it for 12 hours so that you could play golf. No, you're not, that's not true at all. I didn't, I didn't play golf, spoiler. So, woke up in a young sound, drove to the golf course. My golf bag was in basically in the back seat where you would put your legs, so it was at the bottom, but it was trapped on top with a bunch of shit

and I tried to pull it out, couldn't pull it out, thought about taking everything out of my car so that I could get my golf clubs, but I was so frustrated because I tried to move a couple things, tried to squeeze it out, it just wasn't happening. So I was like, this was fucking stupid, got back in the car, kept driving. So I was like, this was fucking stupid, got back in the car, kept driving. So that was that, that was bothersome,

that was dumb move, didn't think about it, whatever. Get to Chicago. Finally, six hour drive, long day, didn't get the golf, was, you know, just, just grindin' out there. You did go to the golf course. I did go to the golf course. I did pull out one club and hit it on the driver

and it took 20 minutes. So you did play golf. So you did play golf, okay. In a play golf. I did play golf, okay. A couple balls. When I moved into my apartment two weeks ago, my electricity was off, I moved in on a Friday. I had to call and get my electric box number. By the time I got all that, it was eight o'clock at night.

The electric company was close for the weekend and then I was leaving on the Monday night. So I wasn't gonna be back there for two weeks. So my head, I'm like, all right, once I get, I'll do it when I'm home in New York. I'll just call and set up my electricity, do it all. Didn't do it. Push it off, get back into my apartment last night, 7.30.

When I first moved in, some of the lights worked, like the bathroom lights worked, a couple of kitchen lights. So I was able to maneuver the weekend. It wasn't a problem. I had some source of light, I had some source of power. Get there on Wednesday night, 730 sunsetting, none of the lights are off.

Oh, none of the lights are on. It's about to get dark. I had all these boxes that I ordered, so I came to basically a full house full of shit that I was like, I'll just, you know, bang this unpacking out tonight with some light, realize that it was, I had no power, the electric company was closing until the morning,

and in about 20 minutes, I was gonna be sitting in a pitch black apartment. Important question. What battery percentage would you cell phone on? Fully charged. A huge upgrade from the Mazda, memes will experience this. Has a charger, doesn't charge.

Holds a charge, doesn't increase a charge. So having a car, a car that like I got out of the car and it was full battery, because it had been on the charger, great feeling. Minor upgrade. So I called PFT, I was like, hey, I have no power. He very kindly invited me over, stayed at his house, lovely place, beautiful, you know,

no cold, lukewarm water, but you know, great, status house, lovely place. Beautiful, you know, no, no cold lukewarm water, but, you know, great, great sleep, great night. Fuck, Hank. Come on, Hank. It was true. You got trashed my water temperature? No, you asked. You were like, you wanted, you wanted a review, so I gave you a review.

I didn't ask you to review my, my hot water heater on part of my take. Sorry. Great. It's a simple fix, by the way. I looked into it, I already fixed it. I've got the hottest water in Chicago. That's what I say about my house. Sorry. Great. It's a simple fix, by the way. I looked into it, I already fixed it. Now I've got the hottest water in Chicago. That's what I say about my house. Okay, so that's part two that when I walked into my house and I was like,

let me back, let me back, I was like, I'm the dumbest person in the world. Because that was the second time I said that. Hank also hit me up and was like, hey, do you have power? And I was like, yeah, yeah, I do have power. He's like, oh, I don't have power. Do you mind if I come over for just a couple hours

and like use your power? And then I'll go back to my apartment. Do you want to hang out for a couple hours? I was thinking, I just didn't, I wanted, I was like, fine with sitting in the couch black. I wasn't even inviting myself. I was just like, I need some to do for the next three hours because I have no power.

I know, but you said you were like, can I come over and use your power? And then I'll go home to my black apartment. And I was like, Hank, just stay over at my house. Like, that's what you really want to ask. That's okay. I was, you were a great house guest. In fact, so shout out to Hank.

I took a picture of Hank's room after he left this morning, the room that he stayed in. Oh no! He made the bed. Yeah! He made the bed, look at that. But, hey. All right, if I'm grading this on a scale of one to Jake,

Jake being like better than any house keeper that could ever come to your house or a hotel room, I give this, you get like half a Jake on that. It's a little wrinkly, see that? That I mean, yeah, we have a little thing you could do a better job. You can't, you can't. Jake pulls these sheets taught, you pull them very tight.

He does hospital corners, which is wonderful. But yeah, Hank was a great house guest. Jake you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can say, okay, can we have your birth certificate and social security card? I realized, I was like, oh, I forgot that. It's in a lock box. Then the light bulb went off. The only thing that I did not bring with me from my Hobo in a part, which is completely empty. I packed everything. There is one box in one pull out shelf that contains my birth certificate social security card passport.

That is still in Hobo. Are they gonna ship that to you? I am working on it. So you did do the most dumbest, you did like the dumbest things in consecutive days. Then in that, the DMV, I was like, I am the dumbest person in the world. So there's three times and two days,

and they actually got progressively worse. Like the golf club was like kind of stupid, but just bad packing. The lights thing was really stupid. It could have done that. I had weeks to do that. Just didn't do it. And then the license thing was like,

just pack your license. You literally packed everything in your apartment. Oh, hey, except for your fucking birth certificate in Passport. Good news is Hank, you have like one more week to get all the Saturdays system. Because you can you can chalk this off to be like, I'm in my 20s. I don't know this stuff.

Yeah, true. Next week, you're a 13th, you're an adult. And then what do you say Tuesday? Yeah, what are we gonna do? Not much more is we should do, you know what we should do. Just get petting Sue. Oh, no rush more of birthdays. Oh, maybe we do the fantasy baseball draft that night.

No, why? Oh, I guess we could. Yeah, get drunk. I think you a cake guy, a pie guy. I'm more of a cake guy. Okay. I should get a stripper. Get a stripper to the office for you?

A cream pies. No. No. Too dangerous. Yeah, too dangerous. We get Zion in all this trouble. All right. You suck at life.

Yeah. Is really the too long didn't read Hank's Sucks at Life Still. Yeah. But you're going to be third. Yeah, you're in the 20s. These are youthful mistakes. Yeah. It's really the too long didn't read Hank sucks at life still. Yeah. But you're gonna be third. Yeah, you're in the 20s. These are, these are youthful mistakes. Yeah. The DMV part is really the kicker because it's like, when you're there, the biggest fear of anyone having to go to the DMV as you get there and you don't have the documents, because once you make the effort to go there and stand online, there's no bigger kick in the nuts when they're like, yeah, you don't have everything in it. But even then, it's like, all right, it's close.

I can just go back to my apartment and grab them and that light bulb going off of like, oh yeah, it's in that box, which is, and I was like, oh my God, it's definitely still in my fucking apartment. Can you send Billy to their house? It's just not gonna be like, I'm gonna take a billion. I did call Billy, I got people working on it.

Okay, good. But I'm shook because I'm getting these documents shipped to me and if what if they don't show up then I'm out of a birth certificate passport and social security car. Yeah, you got to ensure that package. Yeah, we'll see stay tuned. I'm sure we'll be

back. You know, yeah, some some weeks out of the fire fest some weeks I got them all. If you lose your if you lose a birth certificate then you might not actually in the eyes of the law turn 30 also love being a Rod dog, but I need a road dog with them on the road dog. Yeah, it's tough Just once no Not just once come on little road head for yourself

Have you ever now? Okay, all right PFT fire fest of the week is actually closely aligned with the real fire fest. So last Friday night, I went out with a couple of people from Barstow. We went out to a local bar in Manhattan. And I was talking to Jeff D. Low, host of the dozen. And we were talking about Billy McFarland. And I was like, you know, I've got Billy's number. And we're right next to where his old office

used to be and Jeff's like, give him a call. See if he wants to come out and hang out. So I texted Billy McFarland asked him to come out and just drink with us. I'm like, hey, I'm buyer, place. Turns out I accidentally sent that text to the wrong Billy in my phone book. Billy football?

I sent that to Billy football. Oh, no. And then Billy was like, no, I can't. I'm out of town right now. I got about to find chicks. Yeah, no. And then Billy was like, no, I can't. I'm out of town right now. I got a fight. Yeah, well, he said, he said someone in my family broke their leg. He said he was at a funeral, which I immediately was like, well, it's 10, 30 on a Friday night. But I think he was actually in a different town for a funeral.

Yes. He wasn't currently at a funeral. Right. And then I was like, oh, shit, I texted Billy by mistake. So then I texted the real Billy and he replied to me, would love to, but can't, I'm stuck right now. And that, that was kind of an ego check on my part. I got, I've never been stuck before by somebody where they don't even give me an explanation. They're just like, I'm stuck. I don't know if it's just like a step mom thing. I don't know what he's talking about,

but he's like, I'm stuck right now. I can't make it out. So, at that point, I was like, what's that? Got some text. Yeah, he got some text, yeah. So he's like, I'm stuck, I can't make it out. And I was like, man, I guess Billy doesn't think that I'm cool. And then the next day at Darts, I texted Billy again because I was with Jeff again.

I was like, I was like, let's see if Billy wants to come party. And Billy couldn't make it out again. And I was like, well, I don't think that Billy McFarland likes me very much. Just flying out here. This is tough to swallow. And then a couple days ago, I get a text back at a nowhere from Billy McFarland. And he's like, well, what about next week?

Are you gonna be around next week? I'm like, I will be around in New York next week. So I think Billy wants to hang out and drink beers. So I think I'm gonna go drink some beers with Billy McFarland next week, which would be fun. Maybe you'll fly me to an island. What the fuck? Yeah. A known criminal scam artist. Yeah. What? Hey, hey, listen, it's not like you went to jail or anything. And the alleged alleged known. I hope he goes to you for fucking blowing him up, blowing up a spot. No, it wasn't fraud, it was false advertising.

Travel said that. Damn. So, yeah, hopefully I'll toss back a couple of pints with Old Billy M. Yeah, yeah, and maybe the real Billy. What's your firefests is that? You're just gonna go, I guess, is it a moral firefest or you're now saluting with a criminal?

Yeah, I think I'm a piece of shit. I don't know what, my firefests is, I don't know what kind of scams I'm about to get roped into. Yeah, a lot, a lot, but yes, there will be, there will be scams. Yes. All right, I got a couple quick ones. One, kick it too far into it, but listen,

there's gambling regulators have the rules. There was a hearing. It massachusetts on Wednesday about a certain parlay. Let's just say it was a hearing. It massed. Choose it's on Wednesday about a certain parlay. Let's just say it was a CLP. We're not going to say the whole name. But in defense of myself and barstool sports, our lawyer spent basically two hours saying I'm the dumbest and worst gambler of all time repeatedly.

That's entered into the court. It just kept on popping up on my Twitter. I was trending and I was like, why am I trending? He's like, oh, because this guy just keeps saying, and I think he's doing a great job. So he's defending us, but in defense of us, he basically, his key witness was my dumb fucking brain. So it wasn't the best, but you know,

you gotta just laugh about it. You know what you should do, because you should rename it next year to the must win I've tried those those that they do not Turns out gambling regulars don't have like the greatest sense of humor. They don't have I understand They know it's not their job. I don't feel in the world of irony and sarcasm Yeah, that's not their job. It's totally fine. I parody law and that's essentially what the lawyers are doing is parody law No, he's he's yeah, I mean he's basically being like this guy's a piece of shit idiot,

never wins loser. And if I didn't make that clear, let me just repeat that 20 more times. Yeah, so it was fun. And then my other firefests is there was obviously, people saw the smoke in Manhattan and the crazy forest fire that's happening in Canada. And my son's school, they sent out a notice being like, if you don't, if you don't feel comfortable bringing your kids to school, totally understand

like you don't want them outside and stuff. And I'm like, whatever he's gonna go to school, there was three kids at school today. So then you think about yourself as a parent. He's one of three, yeah. Where was like, oh, whoops. Should I have kept them home? Probably the other parents had reasons

why they needed to get their kid out of the house that day. Yeah, so yeah, so whoops on that, but that's fine. It's gonna toughen up his lungs a little bit. They said that being outside and that whether is like smoking six cigarettes. Over 24 hours. If you're out there in 24 hours, listen, that's like training at altitude.

Your son's gonna come back with tremendous cardio. Yeah, nothing, but that is always a shitty feeling when like all these other responsible parents are like, yeah, let's not Put our like four-year-olds outside today, and I'm like now send the kids. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's justification of America stuff Yeah, I'm on the other side. All right. Good show everyone. Let's do Numbers off random generator so they don't really count but we'll let memes count. Mount memes you ever gotten it? I'm gonna go 69. Good guess.

Thanks. I'll go 23. Memes max. One, 20. Okay. He washington PFTft I'm hitting it TJ says 80 what did you say Andrew? He had all 69 you were gonna guess 80 though probably right?

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