Pardon My Take - Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie

Episode Date: May 23, 2025

The thunder are awesome and SGA wins MVP and goes up 2-0 on the Wolves (00:00:00-00:15:32). The Pacers with an all time comeback in MSG as Nesmith goes God mode (00:15:32-00:35:05). We remember Jim Irsay after his passing Wednesday (00:35:05-00:41:25). We talk some hockey playoffs and the Tush Push survives another year (00:41:25-00:56:32). Dwyane Wade joins the show in studio to talk about his career, playing with Shaq, playing with Lebron, fake stories, his statue and tons more (00:56:32-02:12:08). We finish with Fyre Fest of the week with Oldie (02:12:08-02:43:09).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. On today's pardon my take, we have three time NBA champion Dwayne Wade in studio. Awesome interview with D-Wade. Really, really fun to talk to him. We're gonna talk some playoffs. The Thunder are a wagon. The Panthers are a wagon. with D Wade really really fun to talk to him we're gonna talk some playoffs the Thunder are a wagon the Panthers are a wagon the Pacers and Knicks played one

of the most exciting playoff games maybe ever we'll talk to memes about that alright PJ Mercer we're gonna talk about that the tush push doesn't get banned and then we are gonna finish up with fire Fest with our good friend Oldie who is back in the booth uh smelling bad. So, great Friday show going for you to get into the long weekend and it's brought to you by our friends at Draft Kings. The NBA finals are almost here and every play could be the one that changes everything. This is the NBA playoffs where heroes rise, legacies are built and the action never lets up.

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Thunder. Thunder. It was count. Do I still have that ticket? I can't wait. I can now wait for this concert. I gave it to Pug. Yeah.

And he gave it to someone. And then it was given again. I think the Donnies are both going. Oh, hell yes. Whenever you get both Donnies involved, it's a great time. It's rare. Yeah. The Thunder are really fucking good. They're really, really's are both going. Oh hell yes. Whenever you get both Donnie's involved, it's a great time. It's rare. Uh, yeah. The thunder are really fucking

good. They're really, really good. And yeah, we, we laid into SGA a little bit on the last podcast. I still stand by the take that I don't like watching him when he's foul baiting, but he is a great player. He did more. He did less of the foul baiting tonight. Well, he won the MVP too. That happens. Thanks to Shams for spoiling it. Bullshit that they announced that when the two MVPs were in the playoffs series prior, they should have done it when it was like last, last year. He's saying they should have done it during that. Uh, yeah, I think there was a famous one. I think it might've been dark whiskey. No, no, that was after he got bounced. Yeah. Dirk got it in the second round after they got bounced yes jerk got it in the second

round after they got bounced by the Warriors I want to say it was like a David Robinson Hakeem they announced it during the the the actual series but yeah I agree with you they should have done it it was you know before game seven yeah they should have yeah yeah it would have been sick this was this was a great game by SGA there's no doubt about it I still get pissed off when he when he emishes, I think the Timberwolves are at the, at their wits end with it too. Yeah, there was a little bit of that tonight for sure. But he also, like if you take that aside, he played a great game tonight. Yeah, no, he's awesome. He had 38 points. He was dominant in, I mean the first half, he missed like two or three shots he He's really goddamn good

And I wonder the question that I have for you guys is Paul George an all-time Oklahoma City Thunder player because of course Paul George got them SGA And a thousand picks I would say yes, which I I will say in in defense of Clippers fans they probably don't need defense. A lot of people are doing the like, can you believe this trade? SGA was not, no one thought he was going to be an MVP when they got traded. And Paul George was very, very good at the time. Still a crazy trade looking back at it. But yeah, Paul George got them SGA and a lot of picks. And now the

Thunder look like the far and away best team in the NBA they suffocate you on defense Anthony Edwards had a pretty nice night and it still didn't matter They're just that much better and they I don't know what to say Like they're just so much better than everyone and they can hold a lead Yeah, they can't they're a very tough team to come back on they just they they get out in transition so fast Oh every turnovers. Yeah, it's unreal Like they score before the defense even has a chance to fully get behind half court and it's crazy

And all they do is turn you over This was another game where I think the the Tim rolls had 14 turnovers the the Thunderhead six got to win the turnover battle got to do it and it doesn't matter because they're just that good. And yeah, I don't really, you can't even, we can't even be like, Hey, t-shirt guy put your t-shirt on. They just keep winning when he doesn't have a t-shirt. I got, I got one thing to just bring to light national sports podcast. Yep. They've got the best super fan in the world. Yeah. They got two. Well, I'm talking about thundor. Yes, thundor is awesome. But also brick guys, brick guys, who's done door. So thundor he rocks. He wears, he wears like

a Mexican luchador hat and he takes his shirt off. He paints his chest and he looks like oldie. He is the absolute best. I looked up some information about him. His name is Garrett. He's a social worker and he changes on the way to games in a gas station bath. I love that. And this dude is, is the best. We got to get him on huge home field advantage home port advantage. Yeah. There's Thunder right there. He's he's we got to get him on big boy. Thunder. Someone get us a Thunder. He let it out. He lets out. Whoops. He needs an APAC during a during foul shots. Yeah he his claim to fame is he was the first person to call Chris came in Chris caveman Oh, he was shooting shots and I read an article they didn't interview with him a while ago This is like maybe ten years ago

He said as a bigger guy I grew up always wanting to swim with my shirt on as goofy as I might be and how outrageous my antics might be deep Down I like to promote body positivity and feeling confident in yourself. If I can take the thing that I'm most uncomfortable with and make that something that can entertain others or be a distraction for free throw shooters then I took a negative into a positive. I love this guy. Thunder rocks. Thunder is the man. I would like to have him on PMT. You know it's a blowout when Thunder takes the mask off and he just enjoys the rest of the game. My job is done. Yeah. I don't know if he did

that tonight, but he has done that. And I think in that, uh, the nuggets blowout that they had in game two, I think he just was like, uh, Thunder, my, yeah, my work here is done. Yeah. And he went back into Clark Kent for the rest of the game. My watch has ended. Yeah. Yeah. But this guy rocks. I love Thunder. And it, uh, yeah, I don't even know. I mean, we'll see what happens when they so we're obviously is Memorial Day weekend So next we will talk to people there'll be two more games that go on. Yes, we'll be back on We're gonna do Tuesday Friday next week Hopefully, there's still a series. I think that the Timberwolves are gonna figure out how to win one or maybe two at home

I think they'll figure it out. I don't know game three. They got a win game three. I don't know how to win I don't know how but I I don't see the wolves getting swept. Yeah, I mean you would hope that like Like Nas read's got a hit of three eventually. I think he's 0 for 12 in the series. Yeah, he's got a hit of three And you Julius Randall didn't play in the fourth quarter He had a bad game which that is because he has been incredible all playoffs even last game when he started I think he had 20 points in the first half him having only six points and not playing in the fourth quarter I don't know if he was injured or anything, but he that's bad. And I bad sign I don't think that you can make the case that

You might get a friendlier whistle at home because I believe that tonight the foul Shooting even favored the the Timberwolves. Yeah, shout out Scott Foster. Yeah lane banged up got hitting the nose You have a tampon is no. Yeah, he did. He put a tampon his nose. Love that Yeah, it was it was a big one. Did you guys also see in the second period, right? It was the second period the did you see that perk was there? It was the second period the did you see that perk was there Perks going through some stuff right now the picture of Kendrick Perkins standing next to Stephen a Smith that went viral parallax angle that was tough also perk is doing some weird stuff where he

he it's like Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook never got out of the second round until I showed up fact and And Kevin Durant quotient Westbrook never got out of the second round until I showed up. Fact. And Kevin Durant, quote, treated him and said, you the real MVP. Yeah, I love that. And he also had, I think it was last week, he said he would have locked down Jokic and then they just played footage of like baby Jokic just like fucking him up. And the Celtics is like, you know, it's a family family Team and he's like on the act like not allowed in really Yeah, what why because he was like leading the charge against getting rid of Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum

Oh years ago, he's doing his job as a journalist What happened was he was at the game and they and now and they announced him He's gotten all this former teams. None of them. Yeah. Well, he did get a standing ovation tonight. Oh, nice. Yeah. I think the people love him. Yeah. He got a standing ovation night. He has to know when he says stuff like that. Like it's a little bit tongue in cheek, right? I don't know. I don't know. I think he's, I think he's suffering from the fact that like all the fires from the head of the games and box scores that he played in are readily available. Yeah, that is, you know what I mean? Like he would do a lot better. It's giving off big like, Oh yeah, my summer camp girlfriend. She's actually from Canada. If she, if he was a,

like a folk hero, yeah, like back in the day, like yeah, Kendrick, big perk, men used to cry instead of going to the lane against big perk. Yeah. If he was, if he was a boxer from like 1915, yeah, we would be, oh my god, the best ever. But so back to the standing ovation. You got a standing ovation. Now I don't know what the timing was with this, but it was a little weird because they only showed one highlight and it was just a repeat highlight of different angles of a single donkey head. That's awesome. I don't know what happened there,

but here I'll send it to you. I think you also might have misquoted him a little bit because he didn't say carry the hell along. Yeah, that's true. That's true. He, yeah, perk. He's, he's going through it right now, but the thunder, they're just, they're better than everyone. I don't really know what to say. It's like I got a question about the Thunder Yeah, and their roster guy for guy if you put them up against Boston Celtics. Mm-hmm Why would you do that? They're not in the playoffs. Who are we taking here? Got the Thunder are still playing so you got I mean the Thunder are stacked

Yeah top to bottom top to bottom and what's crazy about the Thunder and I know that this is Getting ahead of ourselves because they haven't won the title. Here's the highlight if you guys wanna see it. It's pretty sick. This is Kendrick Perkins and his career at OKC, and that's a dunk. Yeah, hell yeah it is.

And then there's the same dunk from a different angle. Uh-huh. Yeah, that was a good dunk. That was a great dunk. I don want to get ahead of ourselves. There's still some basketball we played anything could happen. The craziest thing about the thunder is like, they're so young and they have so much, like so many draft picks they have, like, like I was saying the other night, like Chet Holmgren is

just gonna get better. He's already very good. He was good again tonight and he's gonna keep getting better. Yeah you could make the case that this might be the worst Thunder team that we're gonna see in the next five years. I like that. I like that. You could make that case. If the Thunder can win with this roster, imagine what they're gonna do. Yeah, it's a good case to make. Should we start that discussion?

Will this be the worst Thunder championship in their dynasty era? No this this isn't off. It's under. It's going to be so bad. This is like, if you look at it, this is an off year for the thunder. Yeah. And the fact that they're doing this is super. We're going to look back and be like, dude, they fucking, they won with this team. Yeah. And listen, I, I like the thunder. I think they're a great team. I think that they're entertained. I love Caruso. I think you feel the same way. I love where. So I love Lou D'Or two, by the way, I don't know if you guys knew this fact. I found out yesterday Lou Dort name is Lugen Stort. His father's name is Lou Franz Stort. I like that. Literally the same name, just a G and F instead of a G. I fucking love it.

Yeah. But I think that with this, if we do nitpick at SGA, it's because there's literally, our only complaint about the Thunder is that your star player is too good at gaming the rules. Yeah. And you're mowing everybody. Like I might be an SGA theist, yes I am, but that doesn't mean

that I can't appreciate Alex Caruso. Yeah, I agree with that. And they're a really good team. You can't take anything like what they've done in the playoffs so far. Cause I know obviously went to seven with the nuggets that's credited nuggets, but I, even in that series, they had a couple of blowouts. Like it just feels like when they beat these teams, they're just killing them. Yeah. Killing them. This game was a close game again. And then it was just, Oh, the thunder are going to

do their thing. Like they're Like their defense is just so good. And their offense can go through a little bit of lulls every now and then, but it doesn't matter because their defense is that good. I think we have to just like fast forward the entire conversation and say, are the Thunder bad for basketball? It could be.

Are we gonna have to make a Sam Presti rule? I mean, he's built such a great team. Sam Presti, the asset king. mean, he's hoarded. He's built such a great team. Sam Presti the asset king. Yeah He's just swimming in assets. Mm-hmm. Ah Eating assets. Should we talk about the other game? I think we should Quick quick break for game time. Okay before we talk Nick's Pacers game time football is back The 2025 NFL schedule is out and the only place you should be getting your tickets is game time the official ticketing partner Barstool

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Nick's Pacers. Mm-hmm. This was one of The more shocking Craziest awesome. I don't really know what other superlative to use games that I've watched. It was insane. And the Pacers, I think we can all agree. It's not a fluke. It's not like a coincidence. This keeps happening. This is the third time they've done this thing. This was the most extreme one. But the third time they've done this in these playoffs in the buck series, they were down seven with 40 seconds left in the cab series. They were down five with 30 seconds left in this game. They were down eight with 40 seconds left. They were down 14 with two 50 left.

with 250 left and the stat goes that all time teams that are up 14 with under three minutes to play were 977 and zero and now the one is the Pacers and what they did and it's crazy. It was insane. I've seen so many different like versions of that same stat where you can even back it up to three minutes, four minutes, five minutes. And they're all the same where it's like they were all for 1,414. Now they're one for 1,415. Yeah. In this circumstance, crazy. And yeah, you're right. The Pacers, they, they, they've proven that this is what they do. They don't run out of gas. They're better condition than every other team

Yeah And they've got guys that can hit three-pointers that can that can heat up and not it's not like they're shutting teams down Like the Knicks still scored points that so so the discussion that I think was thrown out there six points in the last two minutes Yeah, and the discussion was thrown out there because obviously Tyrese Halliburton hits that shot six points in the last two minutes. Yeah. And the discussion that was thrown out there because obviously Tyrese Halliburton hits that shot. Incredible shot toe on the line, but still like such an insane shop for to bounce that high. And he does the Reggie Miller choke, which was a ball as he moved because he, well, he didn't know at the time that he thought he had won the game. I'm okay with it. Yeah. No, I'm fine with it too. Aura.

Uh, you agree? Yeah. What about the laced up Tim's? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Uh, Halliburton just, he may have just made the quickest transition from no aura to massive amounts of aura this postseason. Yeah. But I don't think the Knicks choked as much as, uh, they choked a little bit. They were making shots. Yeah. And they missed some free throws. And obviously there was the goaltending that everyone's going to talk about and over time I get it. Like to say the Knicks choke though does a disservice to Aaron Neesmith going into God mode. That was God mode. What he did in those three minutes or whatever it was, maybe a little more was insane. Five for five from three. Yeah, it was it was nuts Aaron Neesmith

Pacer for life, right in saying for anybody else. I mean how was wait, did he play for somebody else? Aaron Neesmith. Yeah, who do you play for Hank? Oh Do you play for the cell phone? Yeah No, that was that was so impressive God mode. Yeah. Like I don't really know what else I, I don't think you can say in the zone because it was more of a, it was more of a like crunched timeframe and it was perfect. He was above the zone. It was God mode. Yeah.

So I think that the Knicks did kind of choke it a little bit though. And that's not taking anything away from what the Pacers did because the Pacers were obviously great in those last three minutes. But Jalen Brunson is a great player. Love watching him play. Dog. He looked super shaky in the fourth quarter, whether it was inbounding the ball, whether it was bringing the ball up the court, he looked scared. And there were, there were a few times when he turned it over, there were even more times when he should have turned it over and lucked out. He got very, very shaky in the fourth, I don't think I'm telling tales out of school with that one.

Memes, would you agree with that? I think the one inbound play, and then he threw it up to Josh Hart was a shaky one. I think he had several of those in the fourth quarter. Well, I think, I don't know about the, cause what did he end up scoring 42? Yeah, he had a great game. He had a great game. I think the cra't know about the shit cuz he what he ended up scoring 42. Yeah, he had a great game He had a great game. I think the the crazier part for the Knicks is that

when it was 10 minutes left in the game and it was 9492 and Jalen Brunson gets his fifth foul you're saying to yourself Oh fuck the Knicks are gonna be in trouble here and then the Knicks ripped off a the Knicks are gonna be in trouble here. And then the Knicks ripped off a 14-0 run. And you're like, oh my God, Jalen Brunson sitting on the bench

and we just went on a 14-0 run. And all of the, like you said, like you back it up, it's just like looking at all of the scores at different times is just insane. They were up, you know, 119-105 with 250 left they were up Seven points with a minute and 20 left. They were up. What was it eight points with 40 seconds left It just it was an impossible comeback and they and they did it Because Aaron Neesmith was insane and when Halliburton hit that last shot in regulation after the ball hit off the back iron and went

like Eight nine feet up in the air. I don't know about you, but I was like that. Oh, that's shot in regulation after the ball hit off the back iron and went like eight, nine feet up in the air. I don't know about you, but I was like, that's, oh, that's going in. Yeah, that's going to fall in. I also was like, that was Jim Ursay. Yeah, he did. That was his last tweet. Last tweet I did. I did a Ursay legacy game. All right. And we'll talk about him in a second, but that was, I just, I, the Pacers are so much fun. They're so much fun to watch because they have just guys with big balls who make big shots and Hal Burton Hal Burton is so good and I know that like he got voted overrated He now is the most underrated. Mm-hmm, and we don't

He's so good that his his peers hate him. Well, no how good he is Yeah, Kurt Goldsberry told us it was like five people's Rachel that voted for a race 13 people she said 13 total players. Yeah. Kirk Goldsberry told us it was like five people. It was Rachel that voted for or Rachel Rachel. 13 people. She said 13 total players. Yeah. Voted him the most overrated. Yeah. It's really not that many people in the NBA, but they just didn't want to vote for anybody else because that's a fucked up award to give the guys that got probably he got this Olympic spot over them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I was watching a clip. There was, there was someone was someone posted it. It was it was like I've loved Hal Burton from this moment. And it was he was doing like a watch along for a I don't know if it was a playoff game or a NBA League Cup game. And it was a highlight of Jordan

pool with like 10 seconds left chucking a three from like 35 feet. And the other two people on the panel I think was Taylor Rooks and someone else. They're like, what, how do you take that shot? And Hal Burton's like, I love that shot. Like that was a great shot. He's wide open. It's like, I'm taking that shot in the playoffs next year. Yeah. Yeah. That's just what he is. He's just unafraid. Like the move to go into the paint like that and then come out and you knew he was going to take it. It was a stupid fucking shot, but it was crazy. Yeah. Yeah. The whole thing was crazy and it was, I saw people saying it was a double dribble. It was not a double dribble. It got poked away. No, it is. Yeah. He got, he got his, the hands were put on there. Um, what are

you going to do? What are you doing? I wanted to see if memes thought it was a double dribble. That's true saltiness. Yeah, so memes let's let's talk It was not a double dribble, but I saw a lot of people be like how they knock all that I would respect it if memes held held firm and held the line said that's a double dribble memes. We did a Review of your tweets last night. Good job. There was one that we noted though. Would you guys review this? We're sitting in here. Yeah, we did an internal review What'd you guys review this? We were sitting in here. Yeah, we did an internal review.

Internal review. Oh, nice. It's part of our evaluation. We do that every Friday. We do it every Friday. We look through all your treats. But you had it all. You had the choke.

You had everything. You were doing all caps. But the one that made us laugh was the choke picture was not all caps. And it just said Hal Burton hit the choke on the tying basket. Yeah Yeah, the memes you are you are an all caps guy when something exciting happens and when when the Pacers were coming back You said something like the Pacers just won't die. Yeah, somebody was like, oh Jim But I saw that one and I was like that's just memes being angry that the Pacers won't die

I was just I was like, that's just memes being angry that the Pacers won't die. I was just saying I was in shock. Yeah. Yeah. The Knicks are just cursed because like if OG makes that free throw and then Tyree steps on the line and gets a two, like that's what somebody with good luck get gets and said it was like over time, Ty you don't get the goaltend. Now you just lose. Yeah. So how are you? I mean it's one game. That's the thing is like there was a lot of it was a shocking game. Nick's fans were commiserating, which I understand, but it was just one game. You win on you win on Friday night and it's like, all right, let's go. Yeah. You went on Friday night. You're back. It's what? 10 50 right now. Like this morning

I didn't leave the couch. I, it was probably the worst loss I've ever seen mm-hmm in my lifetime But you win game two you're back Yeah, and in the Knicks like if you want to go positive spin zone the Knicks were the better basketball team for 56 minutes 57 minutes Yeah, and no no no no 57. I was doing NFL time well wow We just did American rejects at the they played a private concert for us. It was sick We're gonna have the lead singer on the show on Tuesday. They played the better game for

45 minutes Yeah, and then Naismith was just touched by God and then yeah couldn't fucking miss I miss football 60 is the absolute Sick so memes you stayed on your couch few minutes. You're angry You know I'd say no couch didn't move memes did text the group chat like four times. What time we're recording Let me know. Yeah, let me know what time is like. I want to get this over with and get the fuck out of here. Yeah. Yeah, pretty much.

And now I've just been here all day. You've been doing it. You've been doing it a little bit. Yeah. You don't handle loss as well, but that's fine. I think that most people at this office don't handle loss. By the way, no Nick fan should be judged for how they handled that loss. No.

Because that loss was as gut-punching as you get now anything you said Did acted in the like two hours after that game should be legally wiped from the record? Yeah, I crashed out pretty hard in our production group chat. Oh, no, what did that look like? Can you read some of them? Uh, No, Max Was that hard of a crash out? Yeah, it was pretty bad. Did you apologize? Did you go after anyone? No, no, no.

It always just ends up with me quitting somehow. Did you quit last night? If they don't let me know, I'm going to quit. He blamed Chicago for his tires. That's actually valid point. What's that? I had to get three tires replaced yesterday. That's fair.

You retired three times? Three tires were placed yesterday. You retired three times three times three tires were placed yesterday Yeah, you retired three times yesterday. Yeah, the last was so bad alright So and then what else was said in the the weather I blame the weather in Chicago. Yeah, also fair. Yeah, okay anything else uh I mean anything on hang imagine. No I blame Shane imagine. We're at softball when that was happening Yeah, what what what did you say to Shane? I was like this is all Shane's fucking fault

Okay, go on. Well why he he sent me a picture that let me know he was doing something. Oh Oh group chat things taking a shit. Yeah, oh Damn That is Shane's fault. I Was like I don't want to be thinking about this. It's just one game but the Pacers but the Pacers are so much fun and they're scary scary team because They don't like the fact that you just can't memes. I'll tell you from an Experience you can't blow game to win game to your fun. Yeah

No, I blow another big leading game too, cause then. And it's a pattern. Yeah. Yeah. So I did see if you're a Knicks fan, I hope that you just avoided like memes. You avoided all sorts of sports media, even if you work on a sports media podcast. But I saw a lot of shows today just straight up burying the Knicks, just saying the Knicks cannot come back from this. I don't get that.

Yeah. It's bullshit. It's a, it's an overtime loss. The Pacers are a great team. They will never die. You have to kill them seven times if you want to actually murder them. But to say that the series is over, I respect the boldness of the take. Yeah. And also, like, the Knicks still, like, Kat was very good, and he's going to be a mismatch problem for the Pacers. Like, OG's been good. Like, I think this will still be a series I've Jalen Brunson still incredible that was a tough a tough tough loss did you see the new cat sound dropped let me get it to max so you can play it for you guys I fucking love cat I need a mic'd up for

every single game he's so fucking funny but I you got to keep your head up It's one game win Friday night and you're good to go. Yeah, you can't win a six if you don't lose to so That's true. You get pretty get ready for this This is uh, this is Mitchell Robinson talking to cat before the game I'm here. Where you at? NYC. Okay. And what? I'm here. Where you at? NYC. Okay, cool.

NYC. SEC. Are you in the halibut? I am. I bet, I mean, I've been riding with the Pacers. Like I said, I had a money line on Wednesday night, which was the craziest win possible. I might be in Halaketa. But I've been in Halkeeta.

I've been in the Haliband and Pacers. This whole run, they're just fun. Yeah, they are. They are. Sixers Twitter's been getting into it because there were rumors a while ago, like back when Ben Simmons was on the Sixers, that Darrell Morey turned down a Tyrese Halliburton for us. You get in there and you make it about you, Max.

And also, you don't have the best Tyrese in the NBA. Oh, no. No. No, no, no. No, no, no. It's also crazy, because did you guys see there was a, someone did all the draft picks for each team in the conference finals, and it's like the Pacers have built a team of not top

three guys. And it's pretty damn impressive. It is. Naismith, great draft pick. Great draft pick. Brad Stevens, trust the process. Why'd you get rid of him? Trust the process.

Brogdon, Malcolm Brogdon, who won six men in the year. At the time, it was a good trade. Win-win. Yeah. But I mean, you didn't know he had god mode. No, I mean, it's been four years since that trade. But yeah, he's a great player. Great job. You haven't really thought about him that much before.

Like this playoffs. Has anyone? Yeah, I mean, God mode. It was God. God. Yeah. Needs is what memes. I mean, it was so crazy. And then after the game, he was just he he was like I'm just so good at shooting I just let it fly That's a great guy like that shouldn't be doing that. Yeah. Did you?

The Halliburton choke it could have been a bad one if they had lost in overtime that would have been as Bad as you get in terms of memes and everything going out I think that it's it's incredible that he was able to overcome what seemed like a jinxing choke that he made. He tried to will the meme into existence before they won the game. That feels like something that will come back to bite you and he just overcame that in overtime. Yeah.

But the Reggie Miller choke series, the Pacers lost. That's true. Yep, good point. Also, here's another stat, just one last step. This one's crazy. Since 1997 and 98 teams are four and one thousand six hundred and forty when trailing by seven plus in the final minute of the fourth quarter OT in the playoffs. The Pacers account for three of those four wins that is in these playoffs.

That is not, that's fucking insane Yeah, four and one thousand six hundred and forty and they have three out of four in these playoffs Crazy how many points would you need to be up by memes in the final minute of the fourth quarter to feel comfortable? 15 15 15 that sounds like that sounds like Feels like a new pacer staff yeah yeah you should have gone like 25 yeah dude you don't like the stats that came out after this game I know we're all so shocking you don't want to make a new one and I loved looking at all of them there's a mindbother it's just more than 1640 crazy numbers yeah

uh last thing on this game I I saw that Charles Barkley actually said this to Adam Silver and we agree. It's time to get Tyrese Halberton's dad back in the States. I said that like two days after they banned him for the entire playoffs because you could see a way that this would unfold when it feels like the punishment is too heavy. Yeah ban him for the rest of the first series I get that or I guess it would be the second series first two home games of the second series Let the man's dad watch his son dominate in the NBA Although him doing the clip of him at a bar Doing the choke and having the towel and just going crazy was very funny. But yeah, let's get it back Yeah, I saw Stavi threatened to fight him. He's like, just let me fight his dad and then all is fair. I think it's I think it's a fair I don't know if Stavi wants that fight. I think Stavi wants the fight. I don't know that he'd win the fight. I don't

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See terms at sportsbook.draftkings.com slash promos. Pacers, Knicks, I need to catch up with Max, so I'll just go Halberd. All right, 11 to one. 11 to one. 11 to 1. What are you guys gonna do? I'm gonna take Aaron Naismith. Okay.

8 to 1. Good one. Maybe Godmode still? I'm gonna go Siakam, because I like saying Siakam. Yeah. 750? I'll just run it back with Kat got me a win last or last week. I'll run it back with cat Okay, plus 475 plus 475 in max you're in the lead

for a competition I Think I'm up like a thousand around a thousand. Oh, okay, so you better not have a halibut and hip I know halibut would be tough. I feel like that's way too I'm seeing plus nine. Oh, I see. All right plus 950. I... I'm seeing plus 950. Oh I see. Alright, plus 950. I was reading Josh Hart. Plus 950. My bad. Plus 950. Good catch, Max. That is a good catch. I mean that's a big difference. That's a big difference. They're at the bottom. I saw... plus I was reading it and didn't link the names. Max is able to pull up stats real fast fast real competition. We're all looking at it

Yeah, real 50 You know what? Maybe I'll just I'll parlay Halbert and Josh Hart. They'll share a first basket. That's cute I don't even know what that means. That's adorable. You can't do that Okay, other things we got to talk about Jim ur Ursay passed away. Very sad. I was thinking about a PFD. I think Jim Ursay is the closest to how I would want to live my life if I was a billionaire. And he was the coolest for that. He had a football team. I know his dad bought the team, but he owned a football team. He collected sick guitars. By all accounts, he would just hand people money and do really awesome things for people without having anyone say anything,

like being like, Hey, we, I don't want the publicity. He partied. Like he was a billionaire NFL owner who has many pictures of him like shirtless or has like stains on his shirt. He lived how you should live if you are a billionaire. Yeah, he was a dude. I agree 100%. This is exactly what I would do if I owned an NFL team. If I had that money, I would buy an NFL team. I would smoke cigarettes on golf carts. I would give away a lot of money.

I saw a clip of him a while back, this was years ago, where he was at a Bills game, and he was in the owner's suite at a Bills game, and he was like talking back and forth to some of the Bills fans that were in front of him, like just friendly banter type stuff, and then after the game was over, the Colts had won, he just starts autographing $100 bills

and just handing them to everybody. He's like, thanks for tolerating this, guys, I appreciate it. Here's some money, enjoy yourselves. He would walk around with stacks of hundred dollar bills Yep in the thousands and just give them away to people he did a shitload for people in the indie I know like at the national level what you know about Jim mercer is probably Limited to some of his demons. Yeah some complicated thing, which is fine But like this I think it's actually good to point at this and say if you're an addict that doesn't mean that you're a bad person. No. And also, I don't think he, I think if you talk to

anybody that like dealt with him, they loved him in Indy. He was eccentric. Yeah. But guess what? I would probably be eccentric if I had that much money too. He got rid. I will never forget the fact that he is the first owner to have the balls to say, fuck you to Dan Snyder. When Snyder threatened to blackmail every other owner Mm-hmm, and he goes yeah, try me because everything that I've done is out in the open Yeah, you're still a piece of shit, and we're gonna do something about you He would he had that guitar collection, which is the best guitar collection in the entire world

He had I think three guitars that were worth over a million two of which were worth like four million Yeah, and he had this huge collection that he would take out on the road and just be like, Hey, everybody, please just come look at all these pieces of American history that I have. And he was offered a billion dollars by, I think it was Dubai. They offered him a billion dollars to buy his collection. He said, no, I'm not gonna sell it for that. I don't care about the money. I just want to have it so that I can show people the collection that I have.

Yeah, and I think the, you know, he obviously battled some addictions. Like, he's a complicated guy, but guess what? Complicated people are more interesting in life. Like, there's good and bad, but that's kind of why I looked at him. And like, he felt like one of the more human owners that we had in sports, life like you can yeah, there's there's good and bad but that's that's kind of why I looked at him and like He felt like one of the more human owners that we had in sports because yeah, he did have

Demons and things that happen, but he wore them all and it was like this is who he is. He's not perfect Yeah, which I'd much rather that than someone be like, oh, yeah. I'm perfect. Everything's perfect Yeah, I mean the man made several big mistakes in his life But I don't think that that defines what he would because like I never got to meet you mercy I would have loved to have met the guy and to interview him or just to like Introduce myself We never got the chance to do that. Unfortunately, but he did send us. Yes the giant banner Yes, Colts fine AFC finalists and he wrote I think he wrote those lyrics that he he sent over to us

Yeah, that said like it takes a good friend to tell you that you're pissing in the wind Thanks for telling me I was pissing in the way. Yeah, he also undersold like when that happened I remember pft being like a like Jim Marissa said he's sending me something like let's film it. Just in case it's probably nothing Yeah, and it was that's the greatest Yeah. And it was the greatest thing he could have ever given. I saw Eric Burkhart had a thread today that like I feel like summed up Jim Ursay. He told the story. He said, a brief Jim Ursay story that I believe is important to share. Years ago, I had a Colts client player who unexpectedly lost a beloved

family member. Mr. Ursay personally called me with the sincerest condolences for the entire family. Further, he offered to pay for the funeral, which we graciously dismissed. Days later, Jim's right-hand man called me insisted that Mr. Ursay pay for the funeral. His one condition was that it wasn't made public that he did this. And upon following through and assisting them and executing his amazing gesture, his guy told me in confidence, Jim Ursay does so many incredible things like this on his own and without credit. And last year alone, he paid for hundreds of funerals. And that's like, that's the coolest thing. People will make the argument about like, hey, charity, you got to, you got to talk about your charity. So then you get more charity. Like Jim or

say probably touched so many people's lives and did so many things for so many people that we have no idea about because he did not want credit and he did not want people to be like, oh wow, Jim Ursay is the best. He just did it because he was a good guy. And he was loyal to his players. If you ask any of the players that played for him, I've seen so many of them say like,

yeah, this is a guy that loved football. He loved his football team and we appreciate that about them. They enjoy playing. He, he let, uh, Andrew Luck keep his money, right? Yeah. When Andrew Luck decides to retire and he tried to pay him back, Jim mercy was like, no, you keep all of it. That's for you, buddy. Yep. You earned it. So I, there's going to be a, a giant hole in NFL Fridays and Saturdays this season. I don't know who's going to announce if the roof is open, closed, giant hole in NFL Fridays and Saturdays this season.

I don't know who's going to announce if the roof is open, closed, the window open, closed. I love that. I love, I loved him. Like he loved his football team. It doesn't, it doesn't seem like he meddled with his football team. Maybe sometimes to a fault. Yeah. I would say so. Probably to a fault with some of the hires that he has, but his extent of meddling with the team was, I just want to announce if the roof is open or closed. Yeah, which is awesome Yeah So yeah, and he was it he was one of the more interesting guys in the NFL world

So all right PJ mercy, uh also speaking the NFL world max. Congratulations tush push stays Congratulations. Tush Push stays. Tush Push stays. Yeah. I'm happy about it, I guess. There was a part of me that wanted it to be banned. So that you could be like, you guys are pussies. So that I could call everyone pussies. And then we would still just QB Sneak,

and I wanted it to be the exact same number. Yeah, Jeffrey Lurie, the owner of the Eagles, said, it is like a wet dream for a teenage boy to create a play that is so successful, the only way for it to be stopped is for it to be banned. You can't ban wet dreams. No, that was a little weird, Max.

He's absolutely right. Is it like a wet dream? The teenage boy part was, I don't know why you had to include that. I had to include that do you think Jeffrey teenage boys are the ones who get wet dreams Do you think Jeffrey Lurie has has come to the tush bush? He's not a teenage boy. That's true. He's not a teenage boy Yeah, where's the last time you had a wet dream? I don't know they fucking I post in the The fact that you just stop having wet dreams sucks. They rock. Yeah, it's fucking it's VR It's better than the ER. It is dude. I love that. He's like is sick

The reports were that the tush push was going to be banned. So then Jeff Lurie was like fuck it I'm gonna go all in I'm gonna I'm gonna invite Jason Kelsey and I'm gonna stand up in front of this room of owners and talk to them about coming in my bedsheets. Yeah. And then Jason Kelsey is going to bring it home by getting up there and probably sweating and crying. And it worked. Reading behind the scenes in this, it's actually very funny how the tush push proposal came to be because it's a Roger Goodell thing. Yeah. It's Goodell and it has nothing to do with player safety, despite what Hank thinks. It's just the fact that it's an ugly play.

Yeah. player safety, despite what Hank thinks. It's just the fact that it's an ugly play. According to Roger Goodell, he's like, it's kind of a gross play. So I'm going to ask the Packers who don't have an owner. Yeah, we, we snuffed that out. They were not like the Packers. They were like, oh yeah, they can't blame one of the Packers. They don't have any. Yeah. So Roger Goodell wanted to change this rule because he thought it's a, it's an ugly, what he doesn't understand the tush push is an ugly play But it's got a great personality. Yeah, and he doesn't get that PFT Do you kind of wish that the commanders have not voted to ban it cuz the Bears voted to ban it I kind of wish they hadn't I did not know what the vote breakdown not only did the Bears vote to ban it

Yeah, Ben Johnson likes explosive plays Ben Johnson. He likes explosive Like what did he said that the tush push has never led to an explosive play? Ben Johnson likes explosive plays Ben Johnson he likes explosive What did he said he said that the touch pushes never led to an explosive play I like explosive plays first downs are explosive plays Yeah, that's true. Ah, yeah, we I were I looked at it really quickly cuz I was like, well, let's see Yeah, we were I think in this room were the two teams that voted to ban it. Well crap changes mine I think crap one of the ones that that's I think I think the Patriots switched up at the his mind. I think Kraft is one of the ones that switched up at the last minute. I think the Patriots switched up at the last minute

because I think it's because Kraft likes to stick it to Gadel sometimes and Vrabel was probably like, hey, we're gonna be pussies if we vote to ban this. No, Vrabel's a football guy. Also, there's a chance that when Jeffrey Lurie started talking about coming, Kraft was like, yeah. Yeah, I hear you What dreams

Say last you're speaking my language say say less amigo Yeah, no listen max if I could have had the vote for the Bears I would have voted for it to not be banned I've been consistent. I don't think it should be banned say people should just get a push push Pft has been playing this thing that it's like I don't I don't want to if I could pick I would choose for it Not to be banned then he was like but if it does get banned that would that would be cool find me clipping me saying I'm one. Oh, I've been there. I've been the most consistent T yeah point you're in his division you have to vote against it. Yeah, whatever you want. Yeah, no no you have to ban it I thought like no John Diana right no my oh yeah, Diana did want. Yeah. No, no, you have to ban it. I thought like the giant, no giant Diana, right? No, my, oh yeah. Diana did report it was going

to get banned in the morning. Well, I think some of those votes change. You really happy that that's like a wet dream for me. I didn't even know that by the way, memes just kept telling me he's like, are you going to bring up Diana? You stalker stalker in the hopes that one of the things that you read from her might be kind of wrong. Yeah. The good news is, this one was wrong. The good news for all of this, I cannot wait till we get to do this all again next year. It's going to be great. We're going to do the whole discussion.

That was another thing. The only team that voted for it to stay that is on the Eagle schedule this year is the Lions. Every other team that voted for it to stay that is on the Eagles schedule this year is the Lions every other team that voted for it to stay is not on the Eagles schedule yeah I mean the best case that you can make for banning the tush push is so that we don't have to talk for another year about whether or not they're correct because it's coming we're gonna do it again also just respect to Dan Campbell yeah just that like everyone it's like oh yeah only the teams that only the teams that don't play and then it's like not Dan Campbell's like this is football. Yeah, they're the who's the owner?

Sheila Ford, I think I believe now. Yeah, probably like hat like was like hey how we want to vote on this Dan And he's just like we're not pussies. Yeah, that's probably a pussy. That's probably happened He probably said it like he's like miss Ford respectfully. We're not fucking pussies. It is It is an ugly play if you don't appreciate the beauty that you can find in gross stuff sometimes. Yeah, that's a good check Yeah, there's also more NFL news Brock Purdy. Yeah got paid. I feel like we missed that he got paid It was that like last week. I think it was it was a couple days ago, but the details are coming out now Oh, and the only thing you can like you can look at that contract definitively you can say he is the highest paid Brock of all Time yeah number one well. Yeah more than more than Lesnar in really yeah in his career

I don't the UFC didn't really pay for those what about WWE and what about oh, I know I didn't think about yeah I didn't think about WWE made a lot of money I don't know I maybe has I think this might be the highest paid Brock of all time this was like a week ago by the way yeah I know I forgot yeah we totally missed it I was like what okay yeah I mean we should have brought it up at the time you know what it was I think it happened on a Friday night I actually I know it did happen on Friday at 4 o' 4 p.m. That's not on us definitively not on us That's old news. Yep. Look at that Friday got done. We got the Friday news dump and it also was that Monday was

That guy Okay, what happened on that was the Hank episode. What happened in the Hank episode? Oh, right, right. That's how it takes embarrassment. So I guess what happened today was he gave a press conference about his contract. People talk about the Tatum injury. It's like, yeah, we had a healthy Tatum. We were down nine with three minutes left.

Next could have easily blown that. Whatever. We're not talking about that. We're not talking about that. We're not talking about that. This is a meme. Memes, you could do this one where it's We're not talking about that. This is a meme. Memes.

You could do this one where it's just a Pacers logo on that guy's head in Walmart. You're not that guy, pal. Pacers. I mean the Pacers. That's the Pacers thing. That's the Pacers thing. Yeah. And we did it to the Pacers last year.

Whatever. We're not. It's the, we moved on. Brock, Brock, whatever. Brock. Do you know his name? I was about to say Lester. Okay.

Talk a little puck. That was that was brutal for the Oilers. Yeah, he gave up five goals in the third. It felt like the stars just like hung around hung around get power plays then just bury them. Yeah, it is a lot of fun watching Connor McDavid play. Yeah, that's what I got from that. I also got from that. Take respect to the stars, uh, like fans and crowd. That crowd was awesome. They were standing so much during that game and it just looked like an awesome, awesome time. So, uh, that I, I think that's that oil has got to win game game too. You gotta win game too. Yeah. Must win. Uh, and then the Panthers are going to win the cup. And then the Panthers are gonna win the comp. I put the Panthers in the Thunder Carat category.

Uh, Panthers? They just fucking worked the Hurricanes again. I saw, um, I saw Biz say that, or no, I think it was Whitney said that the Panthers dominating like this probably makes Leafs fans feel a little bit better. Yeah. It makes Capitalist fans feel little bit better. Yeah. It makes capitalist fans feel a lot worse. Yeah. They're just punishing the hurricanes

and it doesn't look competitive at all. Yeah, like I think the Panthers have already played their toughest series. Yeah. It's good job, Leafs. You were very close. Until the finals. Maybe not.

Maybe they're just that good. They might be. Yeah. They are. They did have a, they had an injury tonight I forget who got injured but ah-ho Drove into somebody's leg and looked like an MCL and Bob is locked in Locked it. I just love goalie Bob. That's your goalie Bob Bob Bob

Do we have anything else? Before we get to our great interview with Dwayne Wade Oh college football playoff changes their seating I think we expected that right expected that makes sense It was it's funny because I think that that wouldn't have happened if it weren't for Boise Yeah, boys. You kind of just did that on their own right away So because Boise, you know the fact that there weren't four higher ranked power five programs last year, and then Boise was like, Oh, I guess we get to buy everyone was just like, this can't happen. Yeah, they just like it was going to happen. Eventually,

Boise just expedited the process of being like, Hey, we're we gonna buy. I think if it had been in the regular for the old format But it had gone more true to like power schools getting the the first round home playoff games if that had happened for like four Years mm-hmm, and then Boise State in year five they get the home playoff game. Then everyone's like fuck. Yeah, this is awesome Yeah, right with a bunch of chaos. I actually Is this gonna sound crazy? I get a buy is always more important but And I Arizona State was the other team a bias always more important but Like losing them like a home playoff game that those did rock and they probably like pretty big moneymaker for fans

It's yeah, I think it's better to have a home playoff game. They should if you play someone shitty It's like you just beat up on someone. Yeah, right. They should just do the second round At home as well. That would be awesome. That would be so sick. I think they have to deal with like the bull Yeah, I know that's gonna be yeah, that's gonna be tough. Yeah Okay, do we have anything else? I think that was pretty much everything Scheduled for next week. So we got a show on Tuesday and Friday. So no show Monday. Yeah, we do love you guys, but respecting the troops this weekend have to respect the troops. Yep. Have to do it.

We are going to be working on Monday. Yeah, we'll be here Monday night recording a show. Yeah, recapping everything. Oh, I had one other thing. It was a shout out to SMU. They Posted I don't know if you guys saw this They posted a bragging tweet about their team GPA being the highest ever been. Oh, yeah. What do you guys think it was? This is a tweet. They said like congratulations. That's me. What? It's football to three No, this is a congratulatory the highest

Semester this semester marks the highest full semester GPA in program history. I think it's two five. Actually higher than that. Two nine five. Okay. That's what I got in college. Yeah. Yeah. But I feel like you can't brag if you're not over three. No, you to be like the highest ever. I think if you're SMU you can a lot of players Yeah, a lot of players. They killed our team because it was we were so dumb They were they were in the playoff last year remember for like Three minutes. I don't even know that game was over. So remember the SMU. Yes flight

SMU Clemson who knows Penn State remember that there was the famous the like viral Flight where they got delayed like big-time SMU donors, and they didn't get there half time Yeah, it's like why would you even just turn the fucking plate around? What are you looking at me mean memes are struggling to believe that PFC only got a 2-9 at JMU It's a good school. I feel like you're like you're smart. Yeah, I didn't really do much colleges It's a good school. I feel like you're like, you're smart. Yeah, I didn't really do much. College is a, it's not like a test of intelligence, it's just whether you like went to the class or not. Yeah, that's true.

I didn't really like going to class that much. That's fair. I had two classes that I liked to go to, and that's pretty much it. One of which I got a D plus in, and I was pumped about that. That is sick. Not a great college student.

Respect. Yeah, Hank? Out of two, three in high school. Fuck you. Nice. Good work. Getting into SMU. I feel like SMU's a pretty hard school to get into. Well, yeah.

If you're, it's less about your test scores and more about your credit scores. Ah. Yeah. One of those. One of those. Okay huh. One of those. Okay, let's get to our interview with Dwayne Wade and then Fire Fest we have our guy Oldie back in studio. Okay, before we get to our interview with Dwayne Wade,

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Okay, here he is, Dwayne Wade. Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very, very special guest. In studio, it is basketball hall of Famer three time NBA champion Dwayne Wade in studio. I think you might be one of the most accomplished people that's ever sat on that couch. So I just want to say that start. Thank you for coming in. We also have the Larry O'Brien trophy sitting in between us. Yeah. When you see this trophy, do you, do you feel like maybe you got another year left? Like hey, I want another one of those. Maybe join a playoff team late?

Well, first of all, thanks for the four various. Yes. The VVVVVVIP, I appreciate that. No, I have my own. It's like seeing someone else kid and thinking you need another kid. I don't need, I have my own, I have three of them. You see all the work that goes into that.

Raising one of these. Yeah, I raised three of them already. Wait, do you have a favorite kid? Trophy I'm talking about? Yeah, I do. Which one? My first born, 2006. Okay, all right.

Yeah, that's my favorite one. Yeah, that was a good one. The refs really got involved in that series. I mean, that's what they supposed to do. Protect the product, baby, protect the product. When you won that first one, I mean, that was early in your career, did you, I'm always curious with this,

did you feel a little bit of relief being like, all right, I, you know, cause there's guys who go their whole career and they're chasing, chasing, chasing. Not that you relax a little, but you're like, I know I can do it and I'll get another one, but it might take a little time,

but at least I got that one. 1000%. Yeah. Oh, I was probably annoying as hell to my friends. I, right after the championship in 06, LeBron had a bike-a-thon in Cleveland and I was there. You don't go to Cleveland for a bike-a-thon after you win a championship, you go somewhere else. I was like, nah, I wanna show up.

Uh-huh. And I knew Mello was gonna be there, I knew my guys was gonna be there, I wanted them to see that I was a champion. Yeah. And they didn't have a championship yet. Like we were obviously all young. But yeah, getting that first one out of the way,

I was 24 years old. I came in a little bit unherald compared to the class that I was in. And to be able to get that chip very early, yeah, I was like, okay. All right, now I got that out of the way. Now I can focus on my individual self a little bit. I can get a little selfish.

Go out to some awards. But then after a couple years, I was like, okay, this sucks. You need another one. Yeah, because now I've actually felt what it feels like to host that trophy over my head. And so now it actually made it worse for my whole career because now I'm chasing that feeling because nothing else feels like that no matter what I do.

You see other guys doing it, you're like, you get jealous. So jealous. Like you're not doing that right. That feeling. Cause nothing else feels like that no matter what I do. Yeah. See other guys doing it. You're like, you get jealous. So Joe, like you're not doing it right. No, I need to do that again in that postseason. It felt like it was, it, it was just like a team of destiny. When that shot went in where you were just falling through the air, threw it over the back of your head and went in at that point, I was like, okay, he's

going to win a championship. Really? Yeah, of course. I mean, I wish you could have gotten in touch with me and let me know. That shot doesn't, that shot doesn't go in for somebody that's not going to championship. Really? Yeah, of course. I mean, I wish you could have gotten in touch with me and let me know. That shot doesn't go in for somebody that's not gonna end up winning. Have you ever practiced that shot?

Or were you just like, I'm just gonna throw it up. No, no, so I practice dumb shots all the time. Like I'm a firm believer in like the moments where you're just in the gym by yourself is like really, really use your imagination. Like this is the time to just do all the dumb stuff because you never know when you're gonna need it. And so I personally used to, like I would fall a lot.

And so I would go in a gym and just like, I'll find angles on the backboard. You might hear this in like Kyrie and guys who are very good at it. I always were like, yo, if I'm getting in a point where I'm like in trouble, I need to be able to find a crack on the backboard that gives it an opportunity.

And so I always used to play with going to gym and just play with shots. And so when I have those moments and I've fallen, I just look at that little spot on the backboard like, Oh, that's familiar. Let me put it there. Yeah. Yeah. And it works out sometime. Was that the year that Shaq gave you the nickname flash?

Yeah. Yeah. Wait, I think he gave it to me in Oh five. The first year we, we, we, uh, we wanted my second year together. Right. Oh five. He gave it to me. Um, and it was cool because you know, you need, at that time, if you didn't have a nickname, you weren't, you was not cool. Like everybody had a nickname who was like a really good player and I didn't have one. Like Dwayne way was not cool enough. Well, D Wade is cool.

Well, I worked hard to make D Wade like one name. It was like you had to have one name like Magic, Shaq, Kobe, Michael, MJ, whatever. You needed one name. So D Wade became my one name, but I also needed that alter ego. And Shaq kind of helped develop Superman and Flash. So when he gave that to you though,

were you like, hey, wait a second, you're Superman? Can I be Superman? No, absolutely not. Okay, so you were okay being, you see how big, you see how huge that is? I know he is, but like, you know, there's always the debate, like, who's taking last shot, who's Batman, who's Robin?

You're like, I'll be Flash, I'm fine with that. Oh, we didn't have that problem. Not at all? No. Well, I mean, yeah, you're taking the last shot. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you didn't have that problem. Yeah, well. Other people might have had that problem. Shaq already had, like Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You didn't have that problem. Yeah.

Other people might have had that problem. Shaq already had, like, when he, once, I got the easier part of Shaq. Like, he already had a win through. He was the biggest, one of the biggest stars in the world. He had three championships. Like, he was so accomplished and secure by the time he got to Miami.

And all he wanted to do was win him another ring. And so he knew that I was one of the ones that could help him get to that. And so he was amazing with me, man. Like, he really pumped a was win him another ring. And so he knew that I was one of the ones that could help him get to that. And so he was amazing with me, man. Like he really pumped a lot of juice into me. Was telling me things that I didn't even know it was true. Like he told me, like I was gonna be one of the greatest two guards that ever played a game.

And I'm sitting here looking at him like, okay, if you think so, then, you know, I know you play with Penny. I know you played with Kobe. And so if you say that, then I believe it, right? So Shaq was incredible with me, I know you played with Kobe. And so if you say that, then I believe it. So Shaq was incredible with me, man. So where would you rank the nicknames between Flash, D Wade, and then Way of Wade?

Remember Way of Wade? Well it's still poppin'. Is it still poppin'? Yeah, we still got Way of Wade. Way of Wade? Where is it poppin'? Listen, I got on Way of Wade shoes right now. I remember when you said,

hey guys, this is my new nickname, just a heads up, it's Way of Wade. It was wild. Yeah, please call me Way of Wade from now on. It was brandy, it was brandy. Yeah, Way of Wade is my brand. And in Leaning, I have my own brand called Way of Wade. Actually, I'm wearing D'Angelo Russell shoes.

We just launched these. And so, Way of Wade is still a thing. Okay, I love it. Yeah, I love it. I was trying to make wow a thing, though. I was trying to have people call me wow, which is Way of Wade, W-O-W. Wow is a good name, yeah. So I was trying to have people call me wow, which is way of way, W-O-W. Wow is a good name.

Yeah. So I was trying. Yeah. So when Shaq comes over and he starts playing Miami, I know that Pat Riley and The Heat are famous for some of their conditioning rules. Was that an adjustment period for him where it's like, hey, we're going to weigh you in, we're going to take body fat measurements all the time? Oh man, Shaq tells a lot of stories now,

so it was really cool to be able to get behind the scenes, but watching him trying to get around those, like he put baby oil on his whole body, right? It come in and just oiled up. I don't even know, this is the wrong temperature in the world to use baby oil, but. No, that's fine. So, yeah, you gotta oil up, yeah.

Shaq would come in, so you could not like grab the fat, like it was too slippery, right? So, you couldn't't just grab it all. Like the pinchers, the skin calipers. Yeah, you'll see guys in Antoine Walker and the guys would be in the steam room. Now I'm young, so I didn't have these issues at that time. I didn't understand it, but once I got older I did.

But you see the veteran guys finding all these ways around the weight and body fat. Guys would be in the steam room right before they gotta do the weight and body fat. Doing all these things, but yeah, I've saw guys get suspended for games because they did not make weight and body fat. Like, Pat didn't play those games at all.

That's crazy. So, you, when you were unquestionably the face of the franchise, you'd have to do that every single day? It was, it wasn't every day. It was like once a week. It was once a week you would come in, you had to get weight and body fat.

So, if you build a good relationship with Bill Ferran, who was our strength and conditioning coach, you'd be like, yo Bill, get me on Wednesday. Let me get myself tight for a couple days. But it was some serious. And I think Pat just have these pillars that the organization lives by. And you guys probably have heard of best condition,

most professional, hardest work, all these things and this is a part of it. And he felt that if you were at a certain body fat, he had it for guards and forwards and centers, that you were in great shape. And if you're in great shape, then you can give me your best on the court. And I don't think I believed it early on until it was times where I was not at that body fat space and I wasn't in great shape. And you feel it in moments on the court. You feel it in the moment.

You can't make that extra effort. Fourth quarter, you're a little bit more tired. And so it was a method to the madness, but I think as players, you're like, nah, just give me the ball. I can hoop. I'm a hooper. Just let me play. Yeah.

We have that here at Barstool too, they weigh us in, body fat. Yeah. If we're in too good of shape, they don't let us podcast. You gotta be fat. Yeah, you're too chiseled. All right, so in the story you told maybe a couple months ago, which we laughed about,

we thought it was incredible, LeBron and the cookies. So do you really think that it was the cookies that was the final straw? I did not say it was the cookies that was the final straw. That's what we took from it. Everybody took them from it.

You can't steal another man's cookies. And for the record, we're on LeBron's side. Oh yeah, you touch someone's cookies, that's fighting. I just said, that was the first time that I was like, Houston, we have a problem. Okay, so the story goes LeBron brings cookies with him every single time he gets on the plane. Well, sometimes, but the plane will have cookies as well.

Okay, so he's double cooking. Well, sometimes he brings it, but this is after a game. This is on the road after a game, they make the cookies. Like you can bring it when you're at home and you're about to go on a road. But when you're on a plane on a road trip, they make the cookies on a plane. And so, you know, you kinda, you have to have your comforts.

This is a long season, so we all have our vices, we all have the things that makes us feel comfortable, especially when you're not at home with your comforts. This is a long season, so we all have our vices, we all have the things that makes us feel comfortable, especially when you're not at home with your comforts, you gotta have those things. Well, cookies, I'm one of those guys, love me some warm chocolate chip cookies. And that was one of Brian's vices as well. And so I told the story about the moment,

we all would get in front of a plane, we all would play cards, gambling and playing cards, bourree and poker and all these things is a big part of comradery on a plane when you're flying. And that was one of the moments when they said someone took the cookies off the plane. I got a lot of text messages from there, by the way. A lot of people was hitting me

telling me their version of the story. And I'm like, I was actually there. This is my version. I just saw it in Brian. He became like a five-year-old kid when them cookies went on that plane. Real quiet, pushed them cards away. And I was like, oh, this is, that's not good.

You know, it's the nitpicking. It's nitpicking the thing. We were one of the greatest teams. We went to four finals in a row. Don't take my cookies away from me. Right. I need something. Right.

Is it confirmed it was Pat Riley that took the cookies? Well, listen, Pat Riley, it's Pat Riley's show. Right. I don't care who took the cookies. It had to come. The cookies don't get touched if Pat Riley doesn't say anything. In my eyes, everything come from Pat. It doesn't matter.

Pat is the beginning and the end. Right. And so you're goddamn't matter. Pat is the beginning and the end. And so you're goddamn right, it comes from the beginning and the end in my eyes. And so that was just the first moment. That wasn't, LeBron didn't leave the heat because he didn't get warm chocolate chip cookies. But it's the things that, when it comes to the nitpicking, and I like the way when you're around each other

for so long and you've accomplished the things you came to accomplish way when you're around each other for so long and you know, you've accomplished the things you came to accomplish You're around each other for so long. Everything is not as funny as it used to be Everyone is not as cool as they once was and so once you start having these little things that start adding up and it Start building up you start seeing it on a player. It starts in and wear on them And I just saw I just saw him and I was like, ah boy. Yeah Was there a moment though, after that, where you're like, all right, I think he's definitely leaving.

Like, could you feel it? Not really. It ain't like he wore it on the sleeve. Yeah. You know, LeBron keeps them cars close to his chest. I didn't really feel that my guy was leaving until we were in Vegas, you know, before he left. We had went to Vegas.

He hosted his Nike camp, you know, big camp. We all went to Vegas, he hosted his Nike camp, big camp, we all went to Vegas to go hang out and be guys. I could tell that he had a lot on his mind and there was some things he wanted to say that he was not saying. But I just waited for him to tell me, I wanted him to go to my bro, you out?

Yeah. I could tell, I'm sure it was a hard decision for him and I'm sure it was hard to tell me and other guys. And so I just waited. I waited for him to have that conversation with me. But ultimately we had to have the conversation just like we did to team up. We had the conversation.

Yeah, so on the other side, the team up, when did you know that was gonna happen? Because there were certain teams, I'm Bulls fan, I was like, oh, I think they might come to the Bulls. I think the Knicks felt the same way. Was it always the heat? Was it you were just leading everyone else on? Well, I think the one thing is, Chris Boss was,

Chris Boss was in Toronto, right? And so once Chris Boss got a chance to come out here and get, everybody was like throwing flowers at his feet. He wavered a couple times on, we didn't know if he was gonna be a part of the opportunity for us to play together. I think the Heat did a great job of keeping, once again, their cards close to their chess,

because we knew going into that summer that each team that was in position can get two star players, that everyone wanted two star players. And then the Heat came out of nowhere, was like, hey, we can get three. And so I think it changed something for us. We all had a conversation about it

and we realized we would like to play together, but at the same time, but go off and do what you need to do, go have these interviews with these teams and if something changes, then let's come back to the table. So it wasn't 100%, but it was a conversation that we had going into a free agency, like, hey, we will all love to play together,

and this and that. But but also to you got to go off and you got to see what's what's best for you. But ultimately, we will love to play together. Right. And it was times where like, you know, we me and Brian get on the phone like I think Chris I don't know if Chris going I don't know if he going Nick Nick's telling him everything. The boys telling him everything he wanted. All right. If he's going to play in Miami. And also to with Brian too, I didn't know because I'm gonna play in Miami. And also too with Bronn too, I didn't know because I'm not in his meetings, right? And with me, when I came to Chicago and I got a chance to go in there

and grab that Chicago boys jersey, I was back at home in the mirror like, and now! You know what I mean? Like I went back to that kid from Chicago so I think it was a moment where all of us was like, we probably wavered in our thought of like, man this looks good for me. Um, even though we had the conversation about playing together and that was,

and people think it was like two years before it was not. It was like three years. Yeah, it was not. It would, we don't give us that much credit. How, how long for real was it like, it was free agency time, but before free agency, there was at least a little wink and a nod, like, Hey, it'd be cool to play together. Nope. Was there a third option if Chris Bosh didn't come

to Miami that you guys had talked to or explored? Well, I mean, people, once people start getting a little inside that we were thinking about playing together, we got a couple of calls. So we would get calls from, Amari was a free agent. Yeah. Boozer was a free agent. And so we had to look and see if those personalities

and those talents, they obviously worked with us. Because I think it was, Brown and I were both committed to playing together, once we committed to playing together. And it was really important who that third person was. And we knew all along that if we were gonna do this, that Chris Boss was the choice. The choice, but yeah.

He was, it wasn't, he wasn't like another, it wasn't another option from the standpoint of this is our first option, just because of our talents already together was, it was hard vision how we're both gonna be successful at the same time because we're both bald, dominant guys. Right. And you need somebody else to kind of like relieve that.

And Chris Boss was the reliever in that for us, more than like Omari or more than even Boozer. I would have loved to hear Boo like relieve that. And Chris Boss was the reliever in that for us more than like Amari or more than even Boozer. I would love to hear Boozer's pitch. Was he like, it's OK. I got this. Don't worry. I'm not going to take any shots.

I don't know. Brian talked to Boozer. They had already played together in Cleveland. Yeah. Yeah. And I talked to Amari because me and Amari, we had a cool relationship. So I actually was trying to get Amari there the year before. I was trying to get Amari to the Heat before.

And I didn't think... This was the 2009 All-Star weekend. I was trying to get us to trade for Amari. I'm like, listen, let's do it now. And the Heat was like, no, we're trying to be patient. And so I'm like, all right, well, patient going to get me out the door. Right. You know what I mean?

Any type thing. And so it didn't work. But like, you know, Mari, Brian and I would have been dominant by the same time. It would have is a total different game than Chris Bosh. Yeah. Yeah. Can you tell me about how the Banana Boat crew came together? You talked to Carmelo about this, by the way.

I think he's miffed that he wasn't on the banana boat. Well, no, he insisted that he was invited. Yeah. We were trying to, we were telling him when he came on the show, we're like, dude, you didn't get invited. He's like, I was invited. I just didn't really want to do he said he was cool for it. He was not involved in banana boat. But tell me about how that came to be. You know, the crazy thing about life is it is a photo with the banana boat and Carmelo Anthony is not on the photo. Right? You can look at the photo and still don't care and still say that we all are banana, like I don't know how that name came about with all of us because we all was not on the banana boat. My wife was on the banana boat with us.

And so we were actually all on vacation. We all was going on vacation together. We would take, we got together and we was like, hey man, we want to start taking these these little yacht trips together. We would put all our monies together. We'd take our wives, significant others, and we would go on vacations together.

And so Mellow wasn't there yet, they were actually on their way, like literally like headed to us. And we were just, you know, getting in the water, having fun. And my wife wanted to go on a banana boat. So Chris, Paul, Brian, I, we all got on a banana boat. Now we're in the middle of nowhere.

No one's supposed to know this, but us. And someone took a photo from who God knows where. I'm so happy they did. I'd be so mad if we never got documentation. No one's supposed to have seen us on that banana boat. First of all, like if I'd have knew they would say, if we'd have looked a little cooler. I think it's one of the best pictures of all time.

You look at that, and honestly, when I look at it, I think Carmelo should be there. Yeah, so what did he wait for? What did he have been invited? What did he have been invited? No, he was on his way. Yeah, but if he had been there. Yeah. So what do you wait for? What do you have been invited? He was on his way. Yeah. But if he had been there, he got on a banana boat. What do you been on the banana boat?

I don't know of all four. I don't know. I know. I can't say it's like a little mean girl thing, not letting Carmelo on the banana boat. You guys didn't wait for him. I would have waited for my my guy. I don't know if all of us. I don't know if Melo would have got on the banana boat. I don't think Melo would have been a little too cool. Well, one's got to go.

You got to kick somebody off the banana boat if you want my wife all the banana boat I move smart man very smart. You can't kiss Paul. You can't kick bra so I don't think we would get I don't think It would have been a banana. I think Chris Paul. Okay over the edge wait So if you could if you go back and delete sorry CP If you could delete one thing from the internet, would it be the banana boat or would it be the introductory press conference for the heat? Where's one the not one but two but three before you guys I don't care about that from the internet, would it be the banana boat or would it be the introductory press conference for the Heat? Where the not one, but two, but three, before. You guys fell a little short.

I don't care about that. Wow, that was kind of funny. Yeah, but it's just jokes. Yeah, well no, you guys were serious. No, it wasn't no you guys. It was one person who said, now it was everybody was saying that. It was one person who said not three, not four, not.

What was going through your head when he said not three, not four? He trippin'. I was like, slow down bro, please stop. At what point were you like, oh four, not. What was going through your head when he said not three, not four? He tripping. I was like slow down bro. Please stop. At what point were you like, oh shit, this is too many? Well, first of all, that was one of the things that is supposed to be internal.

That's an internal conversation. It was a packed audience. But it wasn't supposed to go out to everybody. That's one of those moments that you're not supposed to go out to everybody. What you say in the house, stay in the house, suppose. You know, that's what it'd been just for us. Now, if we go back, run a clip, look at me when he's saying

it, I put my head down like woo wee, because I had won a championship before, I knew how hard it was to obviously win the championship, so it's no way, like yes, we thought we were gonna be a problem, yes, we thought we was about to run the table, but we also knew the league is very, very good, and it's not that damn easy. So when he was doing the nine one, nine two, we in the moment, we feeling ourselves.

And it became something that people took and made it like factuals. Like we signed a contract and said, we're gonna win seven championships. Oh yeah, we all, I mean, everyone made fun of it. Yeah, but it's cool, it's jokes, it ain't nothing but jokes. Cause if he had said instead like, hey we might win a championship, then you win two,

everyone's like, holy shit, they, they did even better. But when you say you're going to win seven and then you only well, I mean, the Senator, your spurs is out there first. I mean, I don't, I don't think you can't just run through this league. I don't care who you are. Yeah. You're going to earn it. And so, you know, it, this teams out there that would compete versus us,

no matter what team we put together. And also too, when you put three guys like that together, it's very hard to build a roster, a full roster. We had to get guys that take so many pay cuts to be able to be on the team. And so, you don't think about all that. You're just in the moment. You're thinking about this dynamic.

Who's gonna stop this dynamic? We amongst our fans, we filling ourselves and then Brian got a little loose on the mic and just he start counting a little extra. You know what I mean? And so once he started going on, okay well, well you the young boy, I guess if you said it, then we rolling with you,

because you the one going, it's about seven, I'm gonna be a little old. Yeah, right, right. It ain't gonna be seven in a row. Yeah, I'm watching the video right now, you do put your head down, you're like, please stop. Yeah, I put my head down, I'm like, oh he don't know. And then the camera pans to Pat Riley in the audience, he's like, Jesus Christ. What is he saying? We were talking to Mike Miller the other week. And he said that he felt a lot of pressure because of that. Really? The role players because they knew if you don't win, it's not the big three that are going to be in trouble that are going to be gone. But it's everybody around them. Right. If the role players don't do their job and step up. So was that and then he was also a little bit upset he never got invited to boo ray

yeah like my man Mike aint spending under money no he did say he's playing money since he gets an NBA you know but he's he did say he was like the the pressure of like he's like I was a really good player and then I come to the heat and it's like I have six shots a game and I have to make three or four of them. Like that kind of pressure. Did you feel that for the role players where it's like, hey, these guys, even though they aren't asked to do as much,

what they're asked to do, they have to be perfect when they're asked to do it. Listen, you don't, LeBron, D-Way, and Chris Biles don't get together in their prime to not have pressure. This is what we're here for, everybody. If you ain't signing up for this, then don't sign together in their prime to not have pressure. Right. This is what we're here for everybody. If you ain't signing up for this, then don't sign up here. At this point, once you're just playing in the NBA,

you're playing games and you're going home in first round or regular season, I wanna feel something. I wanna be a part of something that's just really bigger than me. And that's what we signed up for. And so if you signed up to play with the Miami Heat, you signed up for pressure. Yeah. That's where you play with the Miami Heat, you signed up for pressure.

That's where you feel alive. We wanted to feel alive. And so we welcomed the pressure, right? You wanna see how you respond and how you, can you succeed in the midst of this pressure? And so I loved it. I didn't mind. And if somebody didn't, if something,

you can see the ones who will weed themselves out when it came to the pressure moments. But Mike was a gammer. Mike didn't have no thumbs. Mike didn't have no toes. Mike was injured all the time when he played with us. I felt bad for him, man, because Mike can play. That was one of the guys that Brian really wanted on the team.

Brian wanted Mike, I wanted you, D. These are the guys who was like, hey, this don't work without this guy and that guy. And so we made sure, and they also made't work without this guy and that guy. Yeah. And so we made sure and they also made sure about taking the pay cuts that that they were there. Yeah. Speaking of UD, he seems like the best locker room guy ever. The guy like a nice veteran presence to have around

he's how long did he play for till he was 42 years old? We played 20. Yeah, I think 20 years with the heat. I think he was 42 years old when he retired from the game. Yeah. And he was on the he was on the heat for a long time, not really playing that much, but just being a president of the locker. What was he? What was his role in the locker room on some of those teams? Well, he's the coach you carry here. You know, I mean, he's the voice. And when you say something, everybody listen, I don't care what stature,

what what every hour is in 30, 40 points a game. When you stand up and say something, you don't listen. And also to he he ran Miami. So, you know, yeah, you're gonna listen. And also too, he ran Miami, so. You couldn't go nowhere without people tapping on your shoulder and you know it's your D, your D got eyes on you. You know what I'm saying?

But is there certain people that just have your respect? And it ain't about what they accomplish in this, it's about what they do every day. He's an everyday guy. And you respect the guy that come and give everything they have to get every ounce out of their ability every day. And don't bitch and moan about it. Just go about his business, put his hard head on.

And so he's the guy and we all respect him, man. Brian respect him just as much as I did. Pat Rowley respect him just as much as anybody. And so on the outside when people say anything about UD, on the inside you understand that he's one of the most important voices the Miami Heat has ever had in the organization. And if I ever become a coach, which I won't be,

he'll be on my staff. Go get him, UD. You ever want to coach? I mean, you see these contracts? I don't know, listen, never know. Yeah, I mean, the MyFiveReddix showed you, you go podcasting to being a coach. We could be coaches. I mean, it's all it takes. Reddick showed you, you go podcasting to being a coach. We could be coaches.

I mean, it ain't. It's all it takes. You got a good podcast. If you think so. The thing is, getting fired as a coach is actually kind of sweet. Fire me. Yeah.

Give me that five years and then let me go out the two. Yeah. Hang out, get paid not to work. That's what we all work towards. I'll go find my kid. And I'll just go be like an offensive analyst for one of my friends. No, it's a miserable job though.

You think so? If you care. When did you know, speaking of coaches, when did you know Spoh was special? Because I think that was an interesting dynamic of you guys having that team and like, Spohlstra's a younger coach and there was definitely the murmur of like,

is Pat Riley gonna do it again? Is he gonna come back down? No, we didn't want that. Yeah, but was there a moment where you're like, okay, I feel like he's got this, I know he's got this? I mean, I was a star player when Spoke got his first head coaching job. And so, I was there alone, the bumps and the bruises

of a first time coach, right? But about time, Brown and them came to Miami, I think he was about two, three years on the job. You saw the big improvement as a coach. And he had his strengths right away. And his strengths was you're gonna be prepared, right? His preparation is incredible. His work ethic is off the chart.

But there's a lot of other things that goes into coaching besides that. And by the time Brown them came he was a little bit better at it and then you know after we lost in that finals he went on to start reinventing himself. You know Spoil is one of those guys that will go into football locker rooms and other sports to see some of the other great coaches what they're doing how they're involving and he started you start seeing his involved he started evolving every year as a coach. And I mean, obviously he's one of the greatest now.

But when he first got the job, I was like, what are we doing? Who is this? And I had a great relationship with Spo. He was the guy who helped me with my game early on. He was my workout guy. He was in the video room and he had come up and helped me work out after practice.

So we had a great relationship, but then he got handed the head coaching job. And I'm like, wait, wait, what we doing? Right. And then, you know, but to see his work ethic, to see the staff that was put around him, shout out to David Fisdale, um, Keith Ashton, like these tough guys, Ronnie Ronstead, like he put a good, good staff around him and allow him to grow, make mistakes.

You have to have that. You cannot bring a young coach in and fire him within the, make mistakes. You have to have that. You cannot bring a young coach in and fire him within the first three years. You have to give them space and time to learn how to be a coach, especially in the professional league. And so, Spoh has that and he had that with Pat. And so, he wasn't going anywhere.

Pat let everybody know that you will get out of here before he leaves. Well, now he got time to become a great coach because he is comfortable sitting in his seat, but he works his tail off. Nobody works harder than Sposter. Yeah, I'm interested to know about that heat team in the first couple of years,

because it really is fascinating that you've got all these superstars, superstars that have been the man in their own right everywhere they've played. It's been, you are the best player on this team. You are the key to this franchise. You get together and I think in theory, you guys are like, yeah, we know that it's going to take sacrifice. We know what it's going to be like to maybe take a backseat in certain points of the game or whatever. But then once reality hits, you start playing the

games, that becomes a different story where you're now figuring out how to be a team on the fly. Like, what was that like feeling each other out for like, okay, here's how it's going to work in this situation. Here's where I take a step back. Here's where I'm the man that's going to take the last shot. Were there, what was that like, especially in that first seasons, you guys were all kind of figuring out what's going on. Yeah. I mean, it was, it was, it was so tough.

I, it's so easy to say words. I think we all know that's so easy to say words. I think we all know that. It's easy to say something. I'm all in, coach. Okay, what does all in mean? Are you really all in? Because do you understand what it's gonna take? I think when I look at that first year,

think about we all coming from competing versus each other to be the very best in this game. We were still competing versus each other, even though we were teammates, not in a bad way, just like, all right, Brian, you just scored six straight, now I'm about to score six straight. All right, D, you done did that, Chris, but I was like, let me get in the mix.

So we were still, we still had that competitiveness amongst each other, trying to learn how to play together and be teammates, right? And then after we lost in the finals, that's humbling. We all was very, we all got some humble pie very quickly. And we realized that this was going to work. Then we had to do this a little different. And so you saw in that second year, you saw us come back a total

different team with a total different mindset that we actually started believing the stuff that we were set, that we said we was going to do. But it, it takes time. This doesn't just happen when you snap your fingers and say, I want it to happen. It took a little time for it. It took us one year to lose and to get humbled in front of the world and everybody to be, if it was podcast all of the time,

we would have been the number one topic. I would have said some very mean stuff. It was a very nasty thing said about us at the time. But outside of that, man, we had a goal. We sacrificed a lot to be able to play together. And so we had to accomplish that. It was no other answer. We had to accomplish this goal.

And our goal was to win, not just to get there. And so we came back in year two and we started actually believing the things that we said, the motto that we would say, the things that we would say to the media, the things we would say to each other. We started believing it because you start seeing sacrifice amongst guys. We weren't sacrificing at first, we were hooping and we were very good at it, but it takes sacrifice to especially have that much talent

and to be able to have all that work together. You gotta give up shots, you gotta give up your body, you gotta give up minutes, you gotta do all these things that you don't wanna do and it's easy to say it and it's harder to do. And so we had don't want to do and it's easy to say it and it's harder to do and so We had to allow coach to coach us a little bit, right? We had to allow ourselves to like Brian had to allow me to coach him I had to allow him to coach me

It was a lot that we had to learn about each other from that first year to that second year But ultimately we needed to win and we wanted to win and we were gonna figure it out And so we did is there one play or one game in particular that shows the evolution? Like year two, this is when we knew we had it figured out. I mean, right away. Go to the first game, we figured it out. Like coming back, we had to think about it. It was an, we had a long golf season. Think about losing the championship and then having a,

we had an NBA lockout. That sucked because all you wanna do is get right back to it. But we had a long off season to think about this. And so first game was on Christmas Day in Dallas. We came out, I think we won by like 40 on that day. We came in with the mentality right away in training camp. The first year in training camp, we were still against each other. We still were trying to show that we all some bad boys. We came back in that second year and we were trying to become a team We still was trying to show that we all some bad boys. We came back in that second year

and we was trying to become a team. We were trying to show that we could play together. And I think we all felt it right away. And give credit to LeBron. LeBron came back a different player than he was. I mean, what we started seeing of LeBron in those next couple of years was one of the greatest runs we've ever seen

when it comes to professional athlete. And so he came back an even better player that put all of us in our roles, in our positions a little bit. Yeah, speaking of LeBron, let's just say sometimes he looks like he's injured. Maybe, I'm not gonna say flopping. Was there ever a time where you're like,

oh shit, he's actually injured, and then he pops up and he's fine? We didn't deal with none of that in Miami. Okay, so you- He's spreading his angry tattoos that we go. Okay, but there was never a time where you're like, oh no, this actually might be the end here. He might actually be hurt.

Not in Miami. Okay. But what about when you're in Cleveland? Not in Miami. Okay, okay, not in Miami. That's a good answer. Not in Miami. I'm focused on the years we, not in Miami. Okay, okay, not in Miami. That's a good answer, not in Miami. I'm focused on the years we, not in Miami. Cleveland, I was a shell of myself.

That don't even count. Yeah, by the way, you still, even though you weren't, you know, prime D Wade, you still are the best D Wade in Cleveland Cavaliers history, because I think I looked it up and Dean Wade had like five points per game. You averaged 11 points per game, so, for the Cavs.

And listen, every timeaged 11 points per game. So, for the Cavs. So that's pretty good. Every time I watch the Cav game and I hear them say D Wade, it's crazy to me. Little flashback? Yeah, no it's crazy. I laugh every time that it's another D Wade and he's so different from mine. Yes, yes, very different.

Different complexion for sure. Yes. But I think it's kind of cool too when I watch him. I'm like, oh, still a D Wade in the game. Yeah, as a Bulls fan, as a lifelong Michael Jordan fan, you've said on the record many times, Michael Jordan's your goat, he's the best. Did you have to lie to LeBron about that

when he was in Miami? We're like, I don't know, I guess we'll find out. You're still playing. No, we didn't have those conversations. You guys don't sit around. We was talking about him being the goat in seven, eight years into the league. Like, I mean, what he's arguably,

he's put together a career that will make us, that will make sports conversations talk forever about who's the GOAT. That's what he's, it's not many people that can have that conversation to say that you will argue about who's the GOAT forever. I can't have that conversation. And so, what I did is I didn't get a chance

to see Michael Jordan play. I was inspired by Michael Jordan, right? I grew up in Chicago. I played the game of basketball because I saw Michael Jordan play. I was inspired by Michael Jordan, right? I grew up in Chicago. I played the game of basketball because I saw Michael Jordan play the game of basketball. And so my vision of it is so different, but I got a chance to watch that guy, LeBron James up close and personal,

and I've never seen a better basketball player in my life. And so I think the GOAT conversation is what does that even mean to you? It doesn't mean anything. It's something that we talk about in media. That's something you talk about in the middle of summer too. Everyone talks about it, not just in media. Everybody on the street come up to you and they're like, hey, who's the GOAT? You're like, bro, you seven. Why does this matter to you? Who's the GOAT?

Wait, what do you say? What do you tell them? What do you say? They ask me? Yeah, seven year old. Seven year old. I ask them, well, who's your GOAT? It doesn't matter who's my GOAT. I'm seven year old. I asked him, well, who's your goal? It doesn't matter who's my goal. I am. I'm 43 years old. I grew up in Michael Jordan era. I played with LeBron James. I can pick anyone I want.

It doesn't matter. My vision of playing a game of basketball came from Michael Jordan. The silhouette, the thing about when it comes to, I think when it comes to the gold is like, you got to have the perfect height, you got to have the perfect form. You got, it's all these things that go on. The gold is not just the stats that you put on the court and the championships you win when people talk about the GOAT.

It's the stories that people tell about you. It's all these things when it comes to being the GOAT. And so that's the era I grew up in. But Lebron James is arguably a GOAT. He's a GOAT. He's a GOAT to generations. But the generation before him, it's very hard for people before him

to call him their GO. Right? It's gonna be hard. But the generation after that, he's the goat to them. And so you can't I'm not gonna have an argument with somebody that comes to me and say Lebron James, their goat. Duh, he's a goat. It's multiple goats in this game. And my answer, you should you should start having those arguments. Those arguments are dumb. No, very fun No, they're what so let's have it right now. Ask me who my goat is. Who's your goat Michael Jordan?

Why championship rings? That's it never lost the final. That's never went to a game seven in the finals That's it. And he was the best player in those teams. He's got six of them. That makes him your goat title Yeah, yeah, and I respect that And it's over conversation over. Yeah. Who's your thank you for your smile, George. Okay, there we go. Yeah. That was a great guy. That was a great day. Yeah, that was good. Yeah. Seven year old. My basketball go. Yeah, Michael Jordan. I played the game of basketball because of Michael Jordan. What What about how deep have you seen LeBron

get into a book? I've seen a lot of books in his hand. How deep though? We talking, listen, I'm not even judging because I buy books and I read the first five pages and I never, I just don't read anymore. You know what I love? I love when someone can make fun of themselves.

I love the fact that LeBron and his team has now marketed him as someone who reads the first page. That is to me, if you can make fun of yourself, people really can, they love you. If you can't and you take yourself too serious, then everyone else is gonna take it too serious. And so I love the fact that LeBron has now made millions of dollars off everybody talking about

him reading one page. Now, I never sat down and watched how many pages he reads. I don't care about that. I care about what he does on the court, but I definitely have seen a lot of books in his hand. I would just carry on the back of the book. Most people don't even make it past the back jacket. I'm one of them people.

I start reading the book and I'm going to sleep. I gotta listen to my book. I'm sorry, I ain't gonna make it. I read the reviews and I'm like, that's a great book. I can write a whole essay off of what I just read on the back of the book. I'm sorry. I ain't going to make it. I read the reviews and I'm like, that's a great book. I can write a whole essay off of what I did right on the back of the book. I got some dumb questions for you. Wait a minute. That question that you just asked me one. No, that was actually a good question. Very smart question.

I know you've spoken on it, but the fake quote in 2017, uh, that you had, uh, Dwayne weighed on calves, early season struggles. It stinks, but at least I get to go home every night and have my wife eat my butt. Not true, right? Oh yeah, who made, somebody did make that up. That was a fake one. It was a fake one.

I like that you called attention to it, though. Yeah, you quote treated it. So we're making fake quotes up now? Yeah, yeah, I listen. Wait, that's what everyone does. I'm in on the jokes. A lot of people say I talk a lot of shit about me. I wouldn't be who I am today if I really take it seriously.

So fake, the quote's fake, but your wife does eat your butt. My wife don't eat my butt. See how that, that was just a podcast trick right there. Get you in the corner. No, it's cool. It came out of nowhere. It was crazy. It definitely was a crazy take, you know,

and people ran with it. I was like, okay, so you can just throw anything over. It's a funny quote. Fake or not, it's a funny quote. It's crazy. It definitely was a crazy take, you know, and people ran with it. I was like, okay, so it's a funny quote. Fake or not. It's a funny quote. It's funny. I listen. I like to laugh. Yeah, it was funny. It was a little, it was a little crazy, but you know what? Ha ha ha. My wife decided to do it. She decided to leave what we do inside our private home private. All right. So I do, I have a, a private question that hopefully you can give us a little answer on. You went to the Met Gala. What the hell happens inside?

Nothing. Oh, see, he's not gonna answer. You'll talk about eating butt, but you won't talk about the Met Gala. It's crazy what happens inside there. What do you mean what happens inside? What happens inside? We don't know, we're on the outside.

You just have a great time. But what is that, Are you bidding on stuff? Is there live music? What is going on? It's live music. Okay. It's some of the coolest people in the world. Yeah, we see the pictures.

And then we don't. You have a dinner, it's a fundraiser. Okay. Cause each seat is paid for by brands and individuals. It's, you walk through, depending on the theme of the year, you walk through the gallery. Any TVs?

No TVs. The game's on? No games on. So you're at a table. That sounds terrible. You're eating dinner at a table. And then is there an MC? No MC. So it's just, there's a band that's playing during dinner?

The conversation is the band that's playing through dinner? It's some, the conversation is the band that's playing through dinner. Oh. It's everybody, these are all these people, like most of these people I only get to see once a year. Yeah. Right, and I mean, these not, I don't got these people in my Rolodex,

like we not like kicking it like that, right? Not everybody in there, so it's the soundtrack is of everybody happy and excited to be in the cool kid's room. Right. Together and everyone looking fly as hell and you know, and you know, that's just the sound, that's the the cool kids room. Right. Together. And everyone looking fly is hell. And you know, and you know, that's just the sound. That's the soundtrack of the room. When do they pass around the Illuminati robes and the baby blood? Is that a dessert course?

Let's, let's talk about the food. Tell me what you ate. Well, this year was it was five every year is different. Okay, every year is different. Obviously, they reach out to, you know, different chef or different restaurant to upset the plate. And you know, some years is maybe some you fancy and some years is some you may not fancy. This year was actually really, really good. One of my wife and I actually favorite favorite restaurant. So we had some we had some soul in our food this year. Okay, you

know, it was it was about black culture this year, baby, you know, we gonna have some season. Okay. You know, it was it was about black culture this year, baby, you know, we're gonna have some season. Okay. Good. It was really, really good. And in I read a story, you didn't try fish until you were 32 years old. Is that right? I don't remember the age. But I'm you know, me and fish has had a real it was just you know, I grew up in the inner city fish wasn't a fish wasn't a part of my what I was able to eat. And then when I got older, people start throwing fish

and it was like the first one was salmon. And I was like, that smells like the sea. Yeah. It tastes, I don't want that. And so me and fish had a, you stay over there, I stayed over here relationship for a long time. And now I just actually ate a brasino before I came over. It's pretty good.

You're having lunch fish now. Yeah. I'm having lunch fish now. A whole fish. With a salad. Ooh. Oh yeah, cause you weren't a salad guy either. David Fisdale, shout out to David Fisdale,

one of our coaches, he told me one time, he was like, you know what? He's like, I'm pissed off at my parents. I grew up, my mom always told me that I had to eat healthy. I had to do all these things to be like, if I wanted to be an athlete one day, he said, you don't do none of those things. And you're one of the greatest athletes

that I've ever seen. I mean, I was terrible in my prime. You know what I mean? That's why my prime didn't last that long because I didn't have the things I needed, the nutrients for my body, for my body to continue to perform the way it needed to perform.

I was a sugar baby. Give me sugar, give me sweets, give me burgers, give me fried chicken. I grew up that way and that's the way I ate through the league for a long time. Give me hot dogs before a game. Yeah, was there a moment when you were like, oh shit, Father Time's coming?

It was too late. It was? Father Time was already at the door. Shit. Do you think Fisdale needs to have a conversation with Luca? Well. Maybe get Luca on some salads? Fisdale is in Phoenix.

Yeah, but he should talk to Luca. Why? Like try to... What you talking about, everybody talk about Luca's diet? Yeah. Luca's gonna figure out what he needs to do. He'll be great, I think he'll be great. It's one of our favorite things to do,

like a guy who looks like me be like, you know, Luca's kinda out of shape. Well, right. I mean, Jokic looks like you and he's, he got three MVPs, right? Yeah, that's true. It's a three or four, I don't know. But he did lose weight. Like, Jokic did lose weight. He still looks like you.

Yeah. But his talent and his skills, everybody don't need to look chiseled. Yeah, I agree. Like, that is a misconception right there. It's about, it's not about how you look, it's about what kind of conditioning you're in to be able to obviously play both ends of the floor

the way you need to. Yeah. And so it's not about how you look. That's a little overrated. It's a little bit about how you look. Everybody don't need apps. Well, but when you lose, then it's about how you look. That's how the media works. No one said none about how Yoker's looks when he's winning through MVP. His body is no different than Lucas if you want to talk about the style of like, we don't see muscles. You know what I'm saying? It's more so of are you in peak condition or are you not in peak condition from what people expect from a superstar player?

And that's the biggest conversation. It is messed up how we do it. It's like winner, winner, winner, and then the minute you lose, you're like fat. That's just how it goes. Got some finals. It's a lot of fat guys that said it, right? Whatever fat is to you.

It's a lot of guys who don't have abs that's saying it. I think Luca looks good. Yeah, sure. Yeah, he looks okay. I like his haircut. If Luca walked in here right now, I'm sure his body would look way different than you think by watching him on the basketball court

with, you know, out there with jerseys on and all the pads and everything. If he walked in here, I'd cross him up. I bet. No, but Luca's so good. Yeah. I'd cross him up with an ice cream cone. He wouldn't know what hit him. I think, you know what's crazy is so good. Yeah. He crossed him off with an ice cream cone. He wouldn't know what hit him.

I think, you know what's crazy is like, you know how you see, I think we just saw a video go out of a Robinson in New York of him playing in the summer and he was going between the legs. And shooting threes. Like when, if somebody's not in the NBA and they just all been just doing whatever they want to do, everybody's cold.

Yeah. And then when you got to get in the NBA, you got to play a certain role. You forget that you, all the things then when you gotta get in the NBA, you gotta play a certain role, you forget that you, all the things that you were working on in the summer, you just gotta pick and you just gotta roll. Now just do that. And then you forget. I mean, we've talked about it when the whole debate happened,

the NFL versus NBA, I'm like, I don't think people fully understand, like we've been lucky enough to have some of the NBA combine guys come here and work out. If you watch a guy who's gonna be the NBA workout, they do not miss. They literally do not miss. And it's like, you think that they're shooting 50% from the field in a game. When they're in practice, they are not missing. Well, that's called bright lights. That's called popcorn popping. That's called fans in the arena. Everything changes. I've seen players in practice that was way better than me. And we get in the arena, everything changes. When you, I've seen players in practice that was way better than me.

And we get in the game and I'm like, bro, you gonna help me? It's a whole different beast when you got 20,000. Why would you say that about Mario Chalmers? I love Mario. No, I have, listen, Mario is one of the toughest, Mario don't get credit the way he should. Mario's one of the toughest players I ever played with.

One of the biggest shop makers I've ever played with. Mario to me always, I feel like he got more out of what looks like his ability. Like when you look at Mario, you don't see him doing it. You're like, I don't think this guy's gonna be that good, right, because he's not chiseled. He's not hella tall, he's not fast, he don't jump high. Mario still today plays the game of basketball,

and Mario can steal hoop. I give Mario a lot of credit. He was one of the guys I love playing with and if I was if I was a starter team again You asked me to pick 12 guys. I will pick Mario on my team because he's a fucking winner Okay, so who's your favorite teammate? You can't name like Bosch LeBron UD Real but for what and what favorite teammate for what cuz you got a team You got favorite teammates for different all right All right, favorite teammate to play with,

favorite teammate to hang out with in your entire career. Favorite teammate to play with, and I can't pick a guy that I actually like playing with. Is that what you're telling me? No, no, you can't pick the usual suspects. Because what we're gonna do is just a podcasting trick. I'm gonna say favorite teammate to play with, and then you're gonna say someone other than LeBron,

then we're gonna put the clip out. And everyone's gonna be like holy shit. My answer's always the same. My answer's always the same. What is it? It doesn't change. It's your Donnie's Hazel. Okay.

All time favorite teammate. Okay. And then what about to hang out with him as well? To hang out with. No, that's always the guys that don't really get no time on the court. Yeah. The Mo is always the guy that is not one of the star guys,

the guys you can kind of get away with, get away and just kind of like be someone else. You don't gotta be that star guy, you don't gotta be cool. You can just be who you are. So I've had many favorite teammates that you will never know their names. Yeah, I know their names. I mean, my favorite teammates go back to college, man.

I got guys in college that you won't know their names. They're my favorite teammates. I still talk to them to this day, you know, on our final four run. Guys that you will not remember. Yeah, yeah. On that final four run, did you have, did you at that moment have the confidence in yourself

and the belief that you were gonna go on to do all these great things? Or was it that moment that kind of woke you up and you're like, yeah, I can be one of the best? No, you know what, man? I didn't think that way. Like, I mean, I knew I can be one of the best. No, you know what man, I didn't think that way. Like, I mean, I knew I was good at what I was good at, but I always just had the mentality that like,

I never thought that far ahead. I'm an everyday person. It was just to me, I was just, I was always about getting better every day. Now I knew I could compete with anybody because I wasn't afraid of anyone. Once you take away getting dunked on, shooting an air ball and getting crossed over, what else is it? After that, it ain't nothing else embarrassing in the

game of basketball. Like everyone's gonna score on you, right? And so once I was realizing, okay these are only things that really people are embarrassed about. All right, well take that away, then let's just hoop. And so I was never, it's basketball, I'm not afraid of you. Now you can score on me, okay. Like my brothers can score on me, my dad can score on me. So like I just kind of simplified the game of basketball. So I knew I could compete with anyone. It was just about getting the opportunity for me. And once I got my opportunity, I showed up every time.

And that's all. So you weren't thinking at that moment, like one day, 15, 20 years in the future, I'm gonna have a really, really weird looking statue of myself built. No, but I knew I was gonna be great. It goes back to, I got a high school yearbook quote when I was 17 years old.

And they asked me, you know, in 20 years, you know, what would you be? And I said, I'm gonna retire as one of the greatest that would play the game of basketball. I said that at 17 and I actually retired at 37 years old. I retired 20 years later. That's pretty cool. That's actually pretty damn cool.

Yeah. I retired as one of the greatest to play the game of basketball. Now, whatever number, that's- Well, at least in the 75. But, thank you very much. So, I did retire as one of the greatest. So, at 17 years old, I had the outlook.

I just didn't know how I was gonna get there. Yeah. But I got there by my work every day. And also, too, just by the people, man, you really gotta find people along this journey. You gotta connect to them. You gotta hold on tight to them. The people that's there for you. Like God puts people in your path.

You have to recognize who these people are. I recognize those people throughout my journey and I stay connected to them, you know what I mean, to help me get to that next level. And so I knew that I wanted to be that, but it was the work every day and it was the recognizing of, you know, and being honest and looking in the mirror myself when I wasn't that good, when I wasn't doing the things that I was supposed to do, really holding myself accountable to that, to being one of the greatest ever played a game in 20 years. Quick break from Dwayne Wade to talk about

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Can we talk about the statue? Yeah. Is that okay? So when they unveiled the statue, what was your initial thought? I have a statue. Yeah, great statue. Yeah.

That is a statue. I wasn't thinking like you guys were thinking. I wasn't thinking like the photo that went out and everybody like to say, like I wasn't thinking about that guys. Like come on man. Like technically it's a statue. It goes back to like us looking at Luke

and being like wow that guy's out of shape. Like we're like look how bad that guy's statue is, the guy that got a statue for being great for so long. Yeah, yeah, listen, I get it. Like give me all the jokes. I actually, some of them were fucking hilarious by the way. Like some of them I still, I saved them in my phone. I was like I gotta come back and laugh at this one later.

But no, I wasn't thinking about that. I was, you know, once again, my mind goes beyond that. My mind goes to my kids. My mind goes to like, you know, small kids from the inner city. I go to all that. Now, you guys have a job to do, right? Your job to do is to make sure

that you get as many clicks as possible. My statue became something that you guys can talk about. It will get you clicks. Yes. Have at it. So it's hard to do. I feel like the statues fail like the Ronaldo's. No, they're tough.

Yeah. Once I keep telling people is I was I was there alone alone like the whole process. Right. Like I it was an incredible process. But from clay to bronze is two totally different things. It's two totally different statues from clay to bronze. And so in clay, I was like, oh yeah, this is gonna go down in history

as one of the greatest statues ever. In bronze, it looks way different. Everything is hardened. So my, it's very different in clay than it is in bronze. It's intense. It's real intense. Yeah, it shows what a competitor you are. So it was some very strong jaw structures.

Yeah. And then too, everyone gets to look up at me with my mouth open and yelling with these strong, like, trust me, I understand, but in clay, it's soft. Yeah. Right, it looks a little different. I look a little bit more like me, and then you put it in bronze,

and then obviously, and I was trying to educate people, I said, also you put it in bronze and it has to stand strong in Miami forever. That is an extra dip in bronze. That is an extra this, extra that. It's even harder. It's even darker. And so I think that my first reaction, once I got to reaction was, damn, it's darker than I thought it was going to be because every statue has different complexions of bronze complexion. But because mine needs to weather the storm, mine had to be a little bit more. It had to get a little bit more care on it in a sense. And so it was definitely darker than I wanted it to be. But like the expression that I wanted it to have, it had the expression. It just hit a little, my cheekbones a little stronger.

Yeah, it is very cool though. It's an awesome honor to have a statue to know that you meant so much to one organization, one city really, that they're like, we want you to stand here for forever. Yeah, I mean, you could put everybody that plays sports in one room to have a statue. Yeah, you can't fill this room up. No. So it's an elite class. Yeah. And listen, I think as long as people are making bronze statues, it's gonna be hard to capture it to look the way that everybody's gonna want it to look. Someone is gonna figure it out where it's gonna look exact one day, but it is a really tough process. And it didn't hurt me that everyone was talking jokes. I just, the people who worked so hard on it, man. The families, that to me, I was just like,

but also too, once you put your work out there, it's open for interpretation, for people to say what they wanted to say. And people said a lot that they wanted to say. They did. But ultimately, what I wanted, and it's still happening, I still get at it every day, a family, a kid, an individual, they go and they take a photo at the statue.

I was actually there one night, here's the story about, I was there one night when I was in Miami, late night to go see the statue for myself, away from everyone, just me and my crew. And it was like three in the morning. And it was a guy who walked up to see the statue. Now, I'm behind the statue, I'm looking at all the details. He's not even at the statue yet. He's walking up and he's like, oh man, he fucked my man up. And so I come around the statue, I said, bro, did you even look at the statue? Or are you going off of everything you heard?

Like, come here, let's take a look at this statue for a minute. But he just automatically walked up with his own. What did he say when he saw you? That's such a funny thing for the guy to be like, wait, did Dwayne Wade just stand at his statue all day telling people to look at it closer? Yeah, I'm like, hey, come and get a better look.

You know what, matter of fact, how about you look from up top? Everybody looking from down here, right? But no, he took a couple steps back and was like, oh man, I didn't, no, you did. I heard you, I heard you when you were here. That's so funny. It's all good. I just want to, if I lived in Miami,

I'd just pop up at the statue anytime. Yeah, hell yeah. Like, say something. Yeah. Me and UD would sit there like, say some. But it's all love, man. So we mentioned offhand there, but 75, when they did the 75th anniversary

and the top 75 players all time, you were named on that list. Incredible accomplishment. One of our best accomplishments. How did it feel to be named on that list? And then when you get everyone together, what was that room like? And was MJ talking shit? So, yes. I remember being a kid watching the top 50. It was in Cleveland when they did it. They had the leather jackets. I remember being a kid and watching some of my favorite players all be on the top 50 and I thought

What one of the coolest moments in the NBA to be in that list and I didn't know when they would ever do another list Alright, and so I didn't know it would be a hundred years or whatever But when they said it was gonna do top 75, of course, I want to be in that now You understand it's 25 years go by and they only could put 25 more players and it's not 25 new players because some guys got left off of the original 50 list. So let's say it's about 15 to 18 spots of new players in 25 years and you're one of them. I mean, to me individually, that was one of the most, that was one of the dopest moments of my individual life.

Like I didn't go out to play as an individual and I didn't go off all the individual awards. Like I wish I would have grabbed a couple on the way, but that was one that I tattooed on my chest. Now, but you really didn't understand what it really, really meant. You just knew that you was getting this honor until we all got to All-Star weekend in Cleveland

and we all walked in the room. And when you walked in the room, you saw the gods of the game. You, you saw the gods of the game. You don't see the gods of the game. You may see somebody all start weekend. You don't see everybody together. And so you walk in like, Kareem, Oscar, Bird, Magic. Like you looking at the gods of the game,

you like, oh, one of them? Oh, this is really cool. Now you see everybody like, all of us up there smiling ear to ear now because now we in this room and so we in this room, we all get to take the photo together. Everyone's not there. Now my 75 players are not there was 76 because there's a tie to I don't know everybody know that 76 players on the top 75. I didn't know. Did they say who tied? No. Okay, you know, but it's 70, I don't know, I don't know. That little smirk that you think I do? Yeah, you know who tied. No, I was thinking, I don't know neither.

But Jordan wasn't in that room, okay? Yeah, Jordan, he was actually, Jordan flew in. We didn't know MJ was coming. We didn't know who was gonna be there when we took that photo in that room. But that room right there let you know that you was one of them boys. Yeah, can't nobody tell me not to have been in that room, right, because when the 100 would come around, I would be back in that room right there let you know that you was one of them boys. Yeah, can't nobody tell me not to have been in that room.

Because when the 100 would come around, I would be back in that room. But we all are waiting to go out. To go out and wave our little hand and get our love. And that's when MJ walked in. And you've heard multiple stories about MJ coming in and how he snuck in like the black cat and just kind of snuck up on everybody

and start talking shit immediately. Right away, right at Magic. And once again, you can go back and look at the clip, you can see my face, I was like, oh this is happening. Like Michael and Magic is talking shit. Like what, I'm privy to this conversation. I'm a kid who grew up watching these guys, and obviously these are some of the greatest of a play, and I'm privy to this conversation. I'm a kid who grew up watching these guys and like, you know, obviously these are some

of the greatest ever played. And I'm now a part of this. I get to be behind the scenes of this. And Mike come in and he right at him and they was serious. It was no games with Michael. He really was like, get your sneaks, lace them up. Right now. And Magic looked around and saw them cameras like,

well, you lucky these cameras here, I'll tell you something. Right, it was just one of those moments where you're like, two of the greatest ever is talking shit. Oh, that's incredible. It was incredible, man. But obviously they're obviously best of friends. But that was the moment for me, and I said it, I'm on Rugged Sand,

that was the moment for me, I was like, oh, I made it. Yeah, yeah. I would say so. I don't know if I'm going to heaven in regular life, but I know in basketball life, I'm in heaven. Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty surreal. It's pretty insane.

Incredible. Yeah. All right, so you are going to be on Prime Video. So Amazon Prime, you're doing the NBA show next year. Give us some analysts talk who's gonna win the title. Some analysts talk. Yeah, some analysts talk, we can't. That makes it analyst talk, because I can tell you who who's gonna win the title? Some analysts talk. Yeah, some analysts talk, we can't.

That makes it analysts talk, because I can tell you who I think will win the finals. Yeah, give it to us. Get real grand. Yeah, get really, really explain it to us like we're five years old. Who's gonna win the finals? I don't know, I'm gonna start there first.

Oh, that's a bad start. You gotta give us some, you gotta give us some. I'm just telling you the truth, because no one knows. But I will say, if I had to pick right now, because you all are forcing me to pick one. Forcing, yeah.

I think the best team is OKC. I think, but it's not about the best team. We beat Dallas in the year where they were the best team and we won the championship. If I had to pick right now, I would say Minnesota Timberwolves won the finals. Right now. And it's the aura of Ann. Yeah. It's the way that the aura of that young man, the way that you see it filters into everyone that he's playing with. That right there, when you get to that finals,

you need that. You need to believe in somebody that wholeheartedly liked it. And I'm not saying these other guys don't. I mean, listen, any one of these teams can obviously win. There's four teams and they all can win. It's gonna be Hicks, Stork, whoever wins. But from what I've experienced by being in the finals, if they can keep this up, what that young man,

the way that he can, the way that he can, the way he puts his, his Ant-Man on the game, no one else does that. No one else goes to that level like him when he goes to that level. And these guys are very good. I mean, you got Brunson who is fourth quarter, clutch time, money, shea, MVP, right? You got these guys who are at that level.

But when you talk about who got it, who got that sauce, Ant-Man just got that sauce. Now, they gotta keep it up. Because we all know those first eight games mean nothing. The first eight wins mean nothing. You gotta get to eight more of them. And so, who knows if he's gonna get there. But right now, if you ask me,

I'm gonna say he got the sauce that you need to get to that finals. Okay, So counterpoint, I don't hate to take, but last year I would say he also had the sauce. Did he just get the sauce this off season? Something changed about him, right? No, he grew up a little bit. I mean, it's only one year difference, but it's a big difference. He got to experience it. He was in the Western Conference finals last year. He played against the guys who went to the finals. That's a different summer than someone who lost in the second round or the first round when you lose in that space. And so you see someone, you see a mature player.

He had the sauce. He's had the sauce his whole life. I'm sure when he was, he had let you know when he was five, he had the sauce. But once you lose in the way that he lost, you watch the team that you lost to go off to the finals and all those things, it's a different mentality that you come back with. Ant-Man has come back and put his spirit into the guys. And you can see it when they're playing, right? And he's a leader of that team. And so if I'm choosing, maybe a little bias,

cause I see a little, you know, maybe I see a little reflection sometimes. That's what I thought, yeah. Maybe a little bias, you know what I mean? As a young guy, I mean, I won't mind at 24, he's 23, you know, I want to see somebody come in and take it, but I think he got, I think he got what is needed when you get to that stage. As you, as you understand, you heard Shay say the other day, game seven,

he was like, I was nervous. Yeah. You could feel in the first quarter. You supposed to be, these are, you have never felt these emotions before. Yeah. That is the second round seven game. You gotta keep going. Yeah. You gotta get to these emotions before. That is the second round, seven game. You gotta keep going. You gotta get to these, it gets hot. Listen, you get more nervous as it goes on. And so I think someone like Andy's just, I think he's ready for that step and for that stage.

And that stage, them lights get even brighter. That popcorn, it smells even better in there. It gets even richer in that arena. That crowd get even brighter, that popcorn, it smells even better in it. It gets even richer in that arena. That crowd get even louder. And so to win, the ability to be able to pump that confidence in those other guys is what it's gonna be. And OKC has what I think is the best team overall from top to bottom in this.

But it's not just about that when you get to this, to this place that they're hopefully going. Their defense is so good. Something about Ant that reminds me a little bit of your game, he seems to be the type of rare player that when he's playing in front of an opposing audience, when he's on the road,

he feeds off the crowd just as much on the road as he does at home. Yeah. Right? Like he brings his confidence to them. He brings it to the game where he hears everybody booing, hears everybody yelling at him, screaming, and he elevates his game. He's like, I wanna shut them up.

You have to love it. Just as bad as he wants to make the fans at home cheer. Yeah, you have to love it. And at this time of year, you gotta actually, you gotta love playing on the road more than you love playing at home. It's easy to play at home. You're not saying you're gonna win everyone,

but you're gonna get more help. The role players. You'll get more help. When you're on the road, you're not gonna get as much help, bro. And you know what? So what? This is your responsibility.

Everybody looking at you, you the man. You're the one with all the commercials. You're the one with all the attention. They all looking at you and you gotta love that. And so I personally love that. I love playing on the road. I love going and winning on the road. We won our first finals on the road in game six.

I had 36, I loved that. Put me in a position that is the most uncomfortable and watch me come out smelling like roses. And so if you don't have that mentality, you're not winning that championship. I don't care how close you, I don't care if you go up two-oh. You gotta love winning on the road,

it's not gonna happen. Was that your favorite? Because we always talk about this, like best sports sounds, and one of the best sports sounds is when a road player like you can feel them take the soul of the of the of the fans. You know what I mean? We're that like you're like hitting a big shot on the road and that like scream gasp

is so it's something about it. It's it's Folgers. It's Folgers Crystal in the morning. It's a sweet smelly coffee in the morning. Yeah. The whole the whole stadium knows like this guy just beat us. Oh, it's incredible. Yeah. It's nothing better than that. It's nothing better smell of coffee in the morning. Yeah, the whole stadium knows like this guy just beat us. Oh, it's incredible. Yeah. It's nothing better than that. It's nothing better than when you walk out

and you got the polls and fans looking at you with their, they disrespect you. Right? They end up cheering for you. It's nothing better than turning them into a fan of yours. Yeah. Right? And that's the kind of aura that Ant has.

He has that aura where you hate him, but when he get done, you're going to love him. Because you can do nothing but respect it yeah and you know along the way and so yeah it's nothing better than that. He's a very fun player I got one more question for you I think it's more of a statement you might be a magician or a witch because of your pump fake. Are you aware of how good your pump fake was when you were a player? Yeah I see people flying all the time. And you would do it constantly from the three point line. And people guarded you.

I think there's a stat out there that shows that people guarded you closer than any other player in the NBA from the three point arc when they were playing defense. Right? Now, I'm not bringing this up to trash your three point percentage, but it was like 29% career, which isn't, it's not a great three point percentage, but they guarded you so close on the perimeter,

like they expected you to make it. Yeah, because they didn't want me to touch the ball. Was it just like, no matter where he is on the court, we're gonna be as, we're gonna guard him as closely as possible? Well, yeah, because here's the thing, if I'm not a three-point shooter and you play off me, when I get the ball, I'm coming at you downhill,

you cannot stop me. So your goal is to make sure that I don't touch the ball. And so it was a stat when I played in my prime years where I think I was up there like with Ray Allen and those guys when it came to the defense trying not to allow me to get the ball at the three point line. I was up there with the top three point shooters

and I was the worst by far three point shooter. But some guys you just do not want them to get the ball in their hands because that's the rhythm for them. And it wasn't my job to shoot threes. You know what I mean? Like you're Michael Jordan. He had a quote where he talked about, he's like, I don't want to be a great three-point shooter because it takes away what I'm great at and what I love

about my game and the game, because it makes me stay on a perimeter searching for threes. No, I won't. I am downhill. I am trying to put you in the basket. I have to get into paint so I can get my teammates shots. That is my job. My job ain't to sit out there like, whoo, whoo, whoo. That wasn't my responsibility. And so, but I did find respect. I did look at

the respect that I got to announce my peers that knew I'm not making this shot, but 29% of the time, but you guard me like I'm Ray Allen wanted to get this three point shooters ever. Yeah, that's respect right there. So now I'm a back cut your ass. Yeah. And the pump fake was great too. Yeah.

I stole that from Sam Cassell. Oh, Sam Cassell. I stole it from Sam Cassell. I just added my own little mix to it, but I got it from Sam Cassell. So how do you steal a pump fake from somebody? Well, I watched him do it and I was like, he's coming up the court hella slow.

It's the slowest pump fake ever and everyone's jumping and going for it. So because I wasn't a three point shooter and because I will come downhill at a player, the defense natural reaction is to stop you from scoring. The closer you get to the basket, the more you want to stop someone from scoring. I'm really going to pump fake you the closer I get in. And so everyone's job is to jump, close out, jump. If I create space and I get you a step off,

your job is to recover. How do you recover? Jump. And so for me, it's the law. I understand the body. I understand like, all right, you got it. You're going to come back and I'm going to do this and you have to contest my shot. You don't want me to score. So I'm going to give you this. You're going to jump. I'm going to act like you did something to me and I'm going to go to the free throw line. Yeah. So to me it was like, it's all about, you got to have patience. You know, I talked about this and I talk with all the time, a lot of players, when they get closer to the rim, they lose patience.

That's when you got to have your most patience, the closer you get, because the defense has less patience. Right. When they, when you, when you are in scoring and when you are scoring position, the defense gets a little erratic and they want to Strip you a block your shot. That's when I'm really gonna hit you with these slow-ass pump. Yeah Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, who's got the best pump fake all time? Me

Sam Young is actually the answer. Do you remember his pump fake? What makes it Pittsburgh? What what do you remember him? Well, you know who I'm talking about? How do you say that though? What makes you say him? If you ever want to get those over? No, he just he looked the best. He would go all the way up on his tippy toes. He'd have guys running through the crowd and you know, I don't think even played. That's like the gold conversation. Whoever you think is who it is. I'll show you some highlights of him. You'll, you'll, you'll see. Would you ever see yours was very nice, but Sam Young, he had people jumping past him. He would go all the way up on his tippy toes. Yeah, and I guess.

Would you talk shit to people if they jump? If you're like, got him. Oh yeah, listen, it was game plans. You were here, the whole coaching staff on the opposite team say, do not jump for his pump fake. And I'd be like, you know you're gonna jump for my next pump fake. Because it's in your mind now.

Yeah. Right. Now they have made it worse for you because they're now telling you don't jump for my pump fake. It's coming. You don't know when. But I'm about to hit you with these three jumpers in your face and you're not going to like that. So what you're going to do eventually, you're going to try to stop me. That means you got to jump. Because if you don't jump, I'm just dotting your eye. So eventually you're going to jump and I'm going to get you.

I used to tell people all the time, I'm going to get you. You know that, right? Because if you don't,, I'm just dotting your eyes. So eventually you're gonna jump and I'm gonna get you. I used to tell people all the time, I'm gonna get you. You know that right? Cause if you don't, that's a bucket. Yeah. And you gotta let them know too, if they jump and you drive past. Oh, I got you. Yeah.

See you. All right. I got one last question. Row back question, R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase, Q-zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rowback.com promo code take. This has been so much fun.

The Larry O'Brien Trophy here. Awesome conversation. We'd love to have you on any time. You're a current guest now, so when we ask you to come on, you have to come on, just so you know. They used sign something when you walked in the door. I don't know if you read it, but it's basically, whenever we want you on, you have to come on our show.

It's not like my wife. Yeah, well, well, I'm not gonna eat your butt. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right, no, my wife. Yeah, well, well, I'm not gonna eat your butt. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, my last question is, we were talking about it before we started taping, we have a mutual friend, Tom Kreen, obviously you're closer to him than we are, but we're fairly close with him,

we've had him on many times, really love him. Was there a moment when Tom Kreen at Marquette, like instilled, you talked about the Shaq confidence, like did Tom Kreen have a moment where he was you, you talked about the Shaq confidence. Did Tom Kreen have a moment where he was like, hey, you're gonna be special, and you have an opportunity now. Do you remember that moment or that sequence where he kind of gave you that confidence of like,

oh, this is different. It's not just college basketball. It's gonna be something more. Oh yeah. He's one of the most important people in my development. And my development as the player that you guys got to see Tom Kring. Tom Kring was on my ass to a level of tears coming down a lot of times, because I didn't understand why he was on me so hard, but he obviously saw something in me that I didn't know was there.

But I was talking about one of the things Tom Kring taught me, and which made me a very good basketball player. And it was my ability to get so low on pick and rolls. And he, he, we drilled this over and over. We drilled anytime I touched the paint, you better dunk it. Like this was, this is how we, this was my summer workouts with Tom Kring. To the point where like, you know, I was young. I was, leave, get kicked out of practice or throw the ball and walk out of practice and he'd come right down and get your ass back up here.

Like he was on me and I was young, I was going through a lot of things in my family life when I went to college and I wasn't mature enough yet, not a lot of things going on but he would not allow me to be less than what he thought that I was gonna be. He thought I was gonna be great. The year before I entered the draft,

I told everybody I was leaving to enter the draft because I didn't wanna work. We were running lines and all this shit, and I was like, I'm out, I'm going to the NBA. He flew in at like three o'clock in the morning, called me down to the office and scared the living shit out of me, but what he pretty much told me is that

you need to come here to be average. I'm not allowing you to go to NBA to be in the second round or to be late first round. You came here to be great, and great has been in the lottery. So if you ain't there, you ain't going nowhere type, you know, like father figure. He was a father figure for me at that time, and I respected him.

Obviously, you know, I stayed one more year and I went number five, right? And so he was just somebody who was on me and he saw something in me that I didn't even know was inside he pulled things out of me that I didn't even know could be pulled out of you you know I'm in a sense and so you know I sit here and I see him not coachy and I see and I and I and I look at that and I see so many kids who not getting opportunity because they're not getting coached by him to get greatness pulled out of them.

And that's the thing, just because you have it in you, don't mean that you're gonna be able to showcase it to the world. You gotta know how to do that. You gotta have somebody that can see that in you and can pull it out of you. Tom Cream pulled all of my greatness out and then you guys got a chance to experience it.

But it happened at Marquette in that small ass Jim in Milwaukee. And I give him and our coaching staff a lot of credit for not allowing me just to be good. And they forced me to be great. That's awesome. He is the best. And he coached Ant, too.

Yeah, yeah, and he coached Ant. He coached Ant. He coached Victor LaDepot. He coached some dynamic guards. Obviously, other guys as well. But you go back to Ant Man's press conference when he decided to go to Georgia, and he asked him why you go to Georgia.

He said, because Tom Kring, Coach Victor Oledipo, and Dwyane Wade, that's why I'm going to Georgia, because he's gonna get the best out of me, right? Looks like he got the best out of, two of the best two guards to play. You know, when Vic was healthy, Vic was a bad boy. And so give him credit, man. Give Coach Kring credit for having some of the greatest

players to play the game. And a great guy too. Yeah. Amazing guy. And a great guy. Well, Dwayne, thank you so much for stopping by. This has been awesome. We also will promise, I had someone looking up

like doing a prep sheet for me, and I guess our social team has spelled your name wrong every single time they've posted anything on our Twitter. So we're gonna make sure we get it right this time. It's all good, man. Every single time. Every single time. Is that memes?

Yeah, memes. I'm so used to it at this point. At the end of the day, Dwyane Wade is getting attention. Even if it's the one before the A or the one with the Y, it depends. I don't know. We'll just do D Wade.

Yeah, or just screw that up. I worked hard for D Wade, so just call me D Wade. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I've screwed it up, too. Mem screw that up. I worked hard for D Wade, so just call me D Wade. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I've screwed it up too. Memes, you got this. Oh my, I'm gonna get cremated, but when I do leave this earth, I'm gonna make sure that both Duanes

is represented on my way out. I ain't gonna just be the Y before that. It's gonna be the A before the Y too. He'd had a great run too. People 100 years from now, when they're looking you up online, and their brain's shipped that they got it or whatever, they might misspell it when they look it up.

So you wanna make sure that they're SEO. Right, we got them both. So we're actually helping you. We're doing the work here. I got two brands. Yeah. Just don't call you Dean Wade. Yeah, no.

Let him have his own brand. Let him, hey, don't call him D Wade neither. Y'all stop that now. Don't give him my nickname, I worked hard for that. Definitely not. Call him Dean. Yeah, all right, well thanks so much, we really appreciate it, man.

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Oldie you smell so bad. I Almost threw up smelling your armpit It's absolutely disgusting and I truly apologize, but I mean I tried I tried to spray I tried to think but it just Hour yeah, I did a shower after the thing we film have used a Dove men's body care I sprayed that on before yeah, he did I watch him spray it on and then is there any truth that people call me moldy Well, I hope not. I know it's just Just me I'd rather take the M out and throw the G back in for Goldie I'll take all the

oldie all day all right yeah but it's bad dude max take a whiff of it take a whiff it for the people on YouTube and also slide this way just so yeah I literally almost threw up give me 10 seconds I'll just give him a normal sniff without a blow or a plus the blow what he's been doing He's been walking around and and and putting his arm over his head and then blowing the scent at people Yeah, like a fan. Yeah, like like one of those things at the house that sentence comes out. Yeah, so you also So I didn't lift my arm yet I know but I'm just prefacing how bad don't think it's bad because it's the armpit plus his breath. I don't I just saw big cats. No, I saw big cats reaction and he literally I always do I

Can I just do a breath? Look my breath is to try my breath and then we'll do the arm tuck them like all the Just do a breath look my breath is to try my breath, and then we'll do the arm tucking like all the Max give it one big whiff I got it. Oh just one big way strong. Oh come on. You got this max I was seeing stars You got to do Hank to smell Yeah You know what it's like Actually just like gagged in my mouth. Yeah, what's the worst thing you guys have ever smelled? Maybe that go get go get Hank. Okay. We did a Stinky clouds going on the case race a couple years ago. Oh, yeah, I

Wanted to die was like Zaz pubes. Yes, like a smoke burn hairs like yeah It was that was that was as bad as it's ever been. That's me. Yeah, anything when you're hungover New York City when you're hungover is All it is it's the hot trash. Yeah, the hot trash from New York is the worst all right give him give him a good whiff give him a good whiff Hank you have to do a good whiff you gotta really take it in him yeah hit him hit him with it okay you ready yeah smell it get yourself in there Wait wait, let me let me get is a good podcast. Oh my god everyone looking go watch the YouTube subscribe I hate literally just pew people wonder like actual pew tears in my eyes three two It's so bad, dude

Okay, I'm good I get back in the booth. Oh, he that was awesome. I can't believe it How do you smell how does that smell? It's just a combination of all the different odor. How does that happen in real life? Great white north Thank you, okay Well, I get for me was quick, but I was like I was just BL and then no it's more has has some it's BL plus It is it's more has has some it's Bo plus it is it is it's Bo plus Hank your fire fest. It's Bo max Nothing nothing crazy the AI debacle Big cap posted the video on Twitter. Yeah

And he tagged me in it just said is this real at Hennies it you're cute your your puke breath is kind of cute Oh god, yes, puke voice. puke breath is kind of cute. Yeah Yeah, it's kind of cute. Oh raspy. Yeah, not just throwing up back here 23 million views and Ev' you know because you tagged me in it. I was just every single person was just like Duh duh or no obviously not obviously not yeah, how dumb are you how dumb are you? I mean I posted like I said on the show so I thought you know obviously I should have known this but Post on my Instagram story without context and then people get people were getting mad about what about the anaconda? Oh, yeah

I got I had friends that texted me Screenshots of the anaconda that they saw independently and they're like this is not the picture that Hank thought was real right? I was like max two yeah, that's the one the one where it's in the middle of the yeah, yeah big ass I don't know what's going on. I'm like 100 feet long. I was scared. I was like fuck Well, they put it out when I I was like this can't be real and did some research, but yeah, yeah, I Mean it wasn't really a fire fest. It was fun, but uh Yeah, I mean it wasn't really a fire fest it was fun, but uh Took oldie to hot yoga yesterday Yeah, that's he actually blames part of the smell on the hot yoga well It was you shower this morning. He showed at the hot yoga

He said he showed four times since then and you think it's the hot yoga has like unearthed something in you Yeah, I think it was just a huge huge decompression like detox or whatever came out I don't know your body just expressed itself. Well. It was like the hardest class of all time I go I thought we lost oldie a couple times. I thought I was lose I thought I was gonna die and only flexible well That's what he was doing splits of the office And he was like hanging out right before we left and I'm like you want to come he's like yeah I used to do it all the time and then he was I mean it was it was very funny having there

He's you know walking up to all the instructors after being like thank you for the practice thank you for the practice and then the one of them he was like in a puke I haven't I haven't done this in seven years oh wow I thought he was like I thought when you said like oh you know I do it all the time I was like oh yeah I fit right in yeah it was a hard class but it was like it was me chef Donnie and oldie and When the class ended it there was like the Nile River of sweat. Oh three of us. It was disgusting So yeah, maybe I don't know how that unlocks whatever that smell is but something happened. The smell is hot yogurt Yeah, it was it was it was funny, but it was like I looked over a couple times And I thought oldie was was down for the count. Yeah

It was a great practice though great practice that great practice. I felt bad I felt bad being like yeah, this was probably not not the one to bring you to it was a lot of water a lot of sweat out um I'm I wanted to say like you know I think it's maybe from the yoga But all the boys the boys that boys that know back home the BO is pretty strong. Oh, it's no thing Yeah, it's been around It's it's been around Ray do we have the dove I did that twice three times before even is that a is that a family thing?

I don't know. I don't think no I'm Papa Dukes don't smell like this shit I don't know if I'm what I'm consuming or whatever like I mean I even try to take my girls deodorant and they say dad no don't touch it. Don't touch it. I mean nothing works for me. Oh, man I think I gotta go to like a like a science building to say like what can What what can what can we make to make this go away? Yeah, like it's everything already I really would you find a science building does probably got something But they do eight-hour guarantee 12 hours and then they throw the 24 banger on there The only thing in life you can't change is a clock 24 hours

So you gotta get you like dove doing an ad where they're like we we have got the smelliest guy in the world I made him smell fresh get prescription back Max you said no Hamas. Oh Max what are you doing? I needed a face covering. You guys got like one whiff of it. We're just living in it back here. OK, PFT.

So your your fire fest is you are dumb with AI. And then I made it worse. No I knew I was dumb and but it was the 23 million views and the amount of like you know people responding about how dumb it was to think it was real just made me feel a little bit worse. No I'm sorry. Sorry. I apologize.

You know you can mute the conversation. I did. Oh yeah that's the best. I did. When I woke up it was like, this is bad. Oh, I mute conversations. I'll mute a conversation the second I throw out a take. I'll just be like, here's a take, mute.

I mute every single one of the aggregators. Because they tag us in every shit. Everything. And then you get the dumbest replies ever and the dumbest arguments that last for weeks sometimes. Caleb Williams wore a different style of shorts today and I just all of a sudden have like all these mentions from ML football and I was like, Oh no, did something big happen? So I unmuted, he was just wearing different shorts.

Yeah. Jaden Daniels is looking different at training camp. What do you notice? And then it devolved into a big conversation in the comment section that gets into like Brock Purdy at some point Yeah, just mute that whole conversation. Sorry Hank. So the only thing is you're just too trusting I think It was a cool video. I'll stand by that if it was real. It would have been awesome. Yeah, and it was that it was the whale Thank you. Yeah, I was like, you know as a whale advocate. I was like, yes. Did you see the video oldie?

Uh, Max, yeah, I think I did was it the whale I didn't see the anaconda I seen the whale push off It was the whale that had like heavy equipment Driving on its back. What was anaconda, but would you think that was real? At first I was like oh they can scalp it pretty good, and then I was like now they come out to track There you don't see a tractor just floating on the ocean like that. Yeah Pretty good, and then I was like now they come on to track that you don't see a tractor just floating on the ocean like that Good reasoning I'm thinking okay. I grew up on a hundred acre farm. I never seen this shit before But then you think 2025 and then then I said not as this isn't what's one of those the new IA things yeah

All right PFT my my faretched of the week is that I officially felt old as fuck, like middle-aged last week. Oh, no. Because I got a power washer. Yeah. Last Saturday. I went out to Home Depot, picked up, I rented one about a year ago, and I got it, and it was awesome. And the guy was like talking shit to me, like he's like, you never used one of these before,

I don't know if you can handle it. I was like, dude, I'll handle it, no problem, I got this. And I did it, and it was awesome. And then I said, I'm going to buy one of these things. I'm going to get one of these before I don't know if you can handle it I was like dude I'll handle it no problem I got this and I did it and it was awesome and then I said I'm gonna buy one of these things I'm gonna get one of these things so last Saturday went to Home Depot picked one up brought it home I'm addicted to it yeah you just start finding shit around I could power watch you oldie that might work that would but you gotta be careful yeah are you know with a battery or gas so that's really where the fire fest comes in Okay, so we'll hold off on that because yeah

I I was I put a video out because I wanted to piss people off so I did a video of me power washing my patio And I intentionally missed a spot so that people would be like what the fuck dude you missed a spot Some people are mad about that But then I didn't realize that I stumbled into a deep deep hole online that I was not aware of and that's power washing Twitter Oh, and they were like dude. you have a you have an electric power washer. I would hide that thing when my friends come over Yeah, you have an elect. Dude. That's the gayest thing that I've ever seen Oh, and now I'm like I got to go back and get a gas-powered one. Oh, no, I got 2000 PSI on it I thought that's pretty good. Yeah, these you could tell the stream. I was watching your videos if it was gas

He's like, yeah, well, you'm having on the on the most powerful stream on It ain't fuel it ain't fuel Okay, I don't care what you're gonna save this and save that but it ain't fuel you get fuel You better hold on two hands of that pistol. She's gonna be flipping and flopping you want to cook with some 35 hundo 4,000 sheets well what can 35 hundo 4000 sheets do that 2000 can't? Absolutely piss pump the shit out of that thing double times. Two times. Double times, dude.

I need one. I need one to piss pump the shit out. God damn it, I should have pissed pumped the shit out. You gotta go busy, busy. Double times. You know all those stains you get on the concrete and stuff? Yeah. Busy, busy, busy.

Gone, gotta go. Those right there. You're like double lopping with the battery guy. I don't know. Or the electric. Maybe sometimes. But it has different streams I got the different nozzles to it and one of them is like zero degree and that one I think I could cut my toe off with that one

So another thing too for everyone doesn't matter who you are where you're to where you're from Pressure washers are very dangerous. You always got to keep a distance away Even if it's electric or gas, yeah close enough, you can literally cut through someone's skin. So that zero is cutting through someone's skin. Yeah. So even the zero spread out. But yeah, you just got to keep away. It's the most satisfying thing in the world,

to power wash something. To clean? It's so good. I have a walkway in front of the homestead there. And it always gets stained and stuff. So it gets all black and dark and from all the leaves falling. I pressure wash it off that thing. Yeah, I'm actually mine's electric too electric too, but it still works Well, you get you can't be talking all that shit about my electric one if you're if you're pumping out electricity, too

I know it still does the job it still works, but at the end of the day, we're soft ass pit bitch old men Yeah, we need the real guy. You want to hear the Gas one right oldie. Oh hell. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah means his dad was roasting me. That's how bad again Oh, no, when you finish like you're you like, you know touchdown score. Oh, it cleans like beautiful beautiful Yeah, so put your arms up. Yeah It's a great relief it's a great relief but you know what it's still good. How good is it clean things? It's awesome. It is actually like the coolest tool. I've ever used in my life. I'm just finding stuff around my house I'm like I should power wash that I should power when it rained the other day was pissed off I was like I can't power wash in the rain it sucks

But I was talking some of the boys at the office about it and they had a pretty good idea Just get a bunch of fruit and play real-life fruit ninja Oh, I love that with the power washer just throw shit up in the air and try to saw through it. I love that. With the water. Zero angle. You need the zero. Zero angle. You don't want the 12 or 15, the 15 or 30%. That's like a spray.

I think I could cut through a banana easy with a skid on. I know you can. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I could circumcise Biz. Yeah. Yeah, you could. You can help him out. Yeah. The leaves are in the cup and he should have to do that. I'll circumcise him with my power washer. Yeah.

Oh, that's clean too. Straight line. I like that. Yeah. Yeah. Cauterize it. Hot water. All right. My fire fest. I talked about it last week. And you should watch the Viva TV that is out now. Dwayne Wade behind the scenes. Also my cream team, which is Jacob and Zach in the office, who I hired to be my cream team which I is is Jacob and Zack in the office who I hired to be my cream team Ben Mence Ben Mence is a is a Advisor is an advisor to the cream. Okay, he's not officially. He's the advisor on free stuff. Got it. He was tasked with Doing what he does. Yeah. Yeah letting someone DM him and then him being like yeah I can get you a meeting with Dave Portnoy. Just give me like a free. He's very good at that. Yeah, very good. Uh, I've made the purchase. Oh, and it's coming tomorrow. Whoa. So it's not going to be fully operational tomorrow because we need to get

the actual manufacturer out to put it all back to get like, there's a couple of pieces that need to be put back in, but the soft serve ice cream machine will be in the office tomorrow and it's probably going to be an expensive mistake, but I don't care because I, we got it. We got to never going to make any money. Well, no, it pays for itself if it works. And like, I think not actually. No, it does. It can make money. It pays for itself for sure. What do you mean? Well, you're not like we're getting any return Let me explain. Let me explain. Let me explain For itself to let me explain how this is gonna make money in about four years time when Brandon Walker's contract comes up and he's getting

offers from Fox Sports and ESPN and Caller Daddy to leave and join them Their offer maybe twice as much but we're like Brandon. We still got the ice cream machine. He's like, God damn it. I got to stay. But we might not have. I just love this place so gall damn much. It's probably going to break down, but it's going to pay for itself. That's why, but aren't they going to learn how to use it? Yeah, they're going to learn how to use it. I mean, I didn't, my cream team is not the smartest guy. How do you clean that thing? It's probably need your power washer. That's what I was thinking. No, it's uh, there's the whole thing

We also we struck a deal with the people we're buying it from who have like a whole warehouse of different parts and all this stuff They're gonna do a deep clean once a week because I also learned about Listeria this week, which you can die We don't want that you can die from it. Yeah, so the only thing standing between us and listeria is the cream team It yeah, it's bad. So wait the only thing staying between us and listeria is exactly who Jacob and Zack Okay, yeah the cream team you guys ever clean your dishwasher Yeah What once a week, I know that's the thing to do like oh you run. Oh, no you run it Are you talking about running it not know you're gonna get out it no

He's talking about in the bottom as a filtration that a filter thing yeah definitely filter out and shake it You don't have to do it all the time once a month Run it once a month. Yeah Yeah What's the month you do that right Hank? I did it for the first time in a year. How was it? Gross. Yeah all the food It's a filter through all the so all the food doesn't run down the tube down the outside so collects it before it runs through It's like a time capsule. Yeah, yeah, not good not good, but either way we got uh we got ice cream on the way

I'm saying we're gonna have soft serve ice cream in this office within the next 10 days and Love that boys. I've done the math the only thing that we have to and I talked to max about this the only issue is It's a big industrial machine So good everyone's gonna have to pull their part like I'm gonna have to do ice cream checks Like have you had your ice cream if you haven't gotta go Hank Thanks band. Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, yeah. Yeah. Okay. I'm just trying to post that yeah, Max

I thought about this. I think I would like sample cups. Okay right next to it And I think I might have like 20 sample cups a day. Okay, that's fine. Yeah, you know what I mean? No cones sometimes what you want like a little taste, but I want the whole thing, but I'm gonna have about 20 little tastes like every day What's expected per week like what what what I'm gonna need you what how much you weigh? 180 you're gonna have to eat about seven cones a week That's easy me. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna be around the 12 to 14 Morning night I can do it is guarantee you that there's gonna be several times where at lunch. I'm like, oh shit I didn't bring a lunch. I don't really feel like or I'm just gonna eat ice

Yeah, Sundays are gonna be a joke. Oh, man. I'm gonna eat so they have seven I'm gonna eat so much ice cream on football. So we're gonna have to do bets of like every time your team gets scored on Oh, eat a cone. Oh Yeah, so it's gonna be great. Yeah, it's gonna be so great So let's hope it works cuz I the only fear I have about the ice cream machine is once we introduce ice cream into the office You can't then take it away. If you take it away, we'll die Yeah, you like if you just have everyday soft serve ice cream and they're like hope today you don't have it anymore That's that. Do you know why the McDonald's ice cream machines are never up yeah i found this out from my cream team uh-huh so they had a bad deal with a manufacturer that uh the deal was only they could

fix like the McDonald's staff couldn't fix their machines right right so they had to call in someone it's like printers there's all you always have to call in like pitney bows or some shit to come fix your printer. But the update is the cream team told me that deal actually ended about six months ago. Oh, so it's back. So they're back. So they no longer have to go through that.

Okay. Big time cream team update. I'm I'm excited. Yeah, very excited. I might eat more in the winter. I might too. I love ice cream in the winter. Especially because you get to wear a sweatshirt.

Yeah. So you don't have to feel fat after. Oh, do you want to wrap this up? You got a fire fest? I was gonna say cuz you're it's it doesn't make you cold Oh, yeah, that's a great point. Yeah Yeah, Lego that ice cream machine sounds really really good. Yeah So, I don't know if it's my room to step on any toes or get excited about this But like what if we got sauces on the side? We're gonna do toppings on Fridays. Oh just toppings Fridays only I think sprinkles every day toppings Friday Yeah, because then then everyone what's that? Hey, that's too much high expectation if they want it every day. That's too much

You're right on Fridays, right? I want to show up on Friday. Guess what you ain't getting topics. You get no toppings What was that? Yeah, I know you you guys know me I know me and I know I'm being resistant and I know but once I start, once I enjoy a cone I'm eating like 20 cones a week. That's bad. Right. No, but that's what we need. That's what we need. That's a great life. That's what the quota is. The quota has to be at a certain point and I think you're eligible and totally capable of finishing this off in seven days.

Let me ask you this Hank. do you think there's ever been someone on their deathbed who has said to themselves, man I wish I hadn't eaten all that ice cream? Probably. Actually yeah, maybe like someone who like dies of heart failure. All right, but do you think, that was a bad question. Strike that from the record.

No, because I think they're like worth it. Yeah, that's probably other stuff, yeah. Yeah, right, but do you think has anyone ever been like ooh, I You know what I need to do is eat less ice cream Do I think yes, okay? These are bad F2L no, it was a bad answer. I think that people would that are on their deathbed that have heart trouble They're like I wish I hadn't smoked those cigarettes. I know they're probably like to a secret. Yeah. All right All right. Here's a question. Easy question.

Ice cream, first word that comes to your mind? Ice cream. No, all right. That's two words. I was hoping you were gonna say like good, awesome, love it. Summer. Ice cream, good, right? Yeah.

Do you want more good things or less good things? More. There you go. There it is. No, I know. What if we got the Choco taco shells and we did taco Tuesdays You can do that we can absolutely do that Alright cherry salsa. Oh, do you got a fire fest?

Yeah, I got a fire fest there's always something bumping there's always something grinding um I appreciate you guys everyone here everywhere across the stool on here everywhere across the stool. Max just pulled his arm. I'm trying to tell my story. Yeah, tell your story. Do it your way, Oldie. He's grabbing me and mulling me over here. Like, it's not nice. Speaking of that was kind of what almost happened to me.

Uh, so I appreciate you guys. You, the boys from that chick that's threw me down there. Game six. Yeah. In their barn. I came in live. Let's go. I met up with memes.

Uh, Dale Beauty. He was my camera guy. He went down there solo-dolo. Great moves. You had awesome moves behind the glass. I thought they were phenomenal. So I'm dancing on the glass, having a good time, firing up the boys, getting them in the kitchen. Gotta go busy-busy. All of a sudden, the next thing you know, security's telling me, Hey buddy, you can't be doing that. You gotta go. Buddy, I'm just having a good time on the glass. Like, what do you mean? Oh no, your shirt's undone. You can't be doing that. You got to go buddy. I'm just having a good time on the glass What do you mean? Oh, no your shirts undone. You can't be doing that twerking

Buddy, we're in the state of Florida. Yeah, everyone here is topless I've seen more thongs today than I have in the last three years up in Canada So what are you telling me? I can't have my shirt on sounds like sexism. Yeah. Yeah, I was so I was like I was sold Like okay, so I'm talking with guys. What the fuck I was like, what the fuck? Why does this happening to me? So I'm fucking now I'm pissed. I'm like, okay, dude, like I'm just with guys. What the fuck I was like what the fuck? Why does this happening to me so I'm fucking now. I'm pissed. I'm like okay, dude like I'm just trying to have a good time I'm not harming anyone so we're on the group in the console thing telling me so that's guys It's all good in the hood so he walks away I start walking away me and means to go grab another cold one quick people are coming all the oldie

The guy when they're all green canine security dog they got the dog on you No, it's the guy in all green, but he's in like a canine suit. It just says canine pack Oh, I was gonna say the dog would probably like sniff you and die. Oh, he would have been hungry He would have passed right out on it. They would have what happened to it little pooch. He's done So I'm standing there. We walk away all of a sudden. He comes up to me. Hey motherfucker Did you hear what I said you do that down the glass again and you're fucking out of here I said hey sir listen I apologize I told the guys I'm sorry you all good he goes no you didn't hear what the fuck I said I'm gonna drag your ass out of here pal and

you're gone okay brother my bad all good I appreciate you go ahead no big deal second period comes on boys are buzzing the Leafs are going next thing you know I see this guy comes back in between the second and third intermission. Right away comes up to me. I thought, oh fuck, here we go again. What did I do now? Hey, hey man, I'm really sorry about that. I want to apologize.

I didn't realize who you were. I said, what? I said, are you fucking shitting me, pal? You were ready to spirit tackle me right to this brick wall Look like you eat in a long time. So he powered you up and he just like to apologize. I appreciate all good, man I'll get ahead. I'm thinking myself you mother dog meat you were gonna he was ready to drag my He was an oldie fan. He was an oldie fan the next thing, you know, they told him who I was that's fine Second a clearance third period comes up the boys are buzzing We're up to nothing. Yeah, or we're up one nil. I would have the glass gotta go

shirt open let's go So I'm like I'm like this I'm like this let's go I got the boys buzzing out there all of a sudden the guy comes up. I go back and sit in my seat It's hot in here I gotta leave this off And the next thing you know he comes up hey come over here I said no no I'm not going anywhere sir the usher again the third time I'm not going anywhere sir, please and then the cop comes hey come on over here. I said listen officer

I don't want to go anywhere brother. Please I want to stay in the barn. He goes listen. You're a beauty You're doing a good thing, but he's not kicking you out. I'm vending, please. I wanna stay in the barn. He goes, listen, you're a beauty, you're doing a good thing, but he's not kicking you out. I'm vending for you, I got you. I said, officer, please man, I ain't doing nothing wrong. We go walk upstairs, have another conversation, third time, shooting the shit. All of a sudden, we're talking, next thing you know,

I'm apologizing, I appreciate the sir shaking his hand. He goes, okay, no more. I said, I promise no more shirt off. So, as I'm walking away, everyone thinks I got booted, right? I see Twitter people send me out of here my old ladies Texting me are you gone? Are you okay? I said no. I'm good. I'm good baby Carol. I'm good The next thing you know we're upstairs. I'm shaking his answer. I apologize all good Okay, man, just enjoy the go the game so memes is catching it on the whole video

And you know how there's the drape curtains you know, just enjoy the go the game. So memes is catching it on the whole video and you know How there's the drape curtains, you know, there's the drape curtains there Yeah a little crossover so I walked through the drape curtains after I said, okay, buddy. Take care I look around I say you can't cook a good vibes Lego busy busy They tried to boot me three times. So no dice you ain't kicking me out here We're land up right on the glass level. There go cheering on the BUDs telling them let's go Scotty Lawton giving me the fist pump I'm fired up it is so wicked in there we

got her going the BUDs came and the fire fest is I went back for game seven and I tried my best and unfortunately they couldn't pull through for me no yeah I got my ass almost stackeled even in Toronto that another guy I'm dancing on the glass one usher comes up Hey, do you can't be doing that buddy? I said sir. I'm having a good time five minutes into the warm-up dance another guy comes in Hey, you're got buddy. You're gone his name. I think his name was Richard. I looked at him. I said hey listen Richard No problem. I'm gone. No. No you can't be doing that on the glass here. I said listen. I'm with the guys They got me ticks. I'm out of the bumping grind out here so the guy that got me the ticks he said hey no these guys are good they're with us we're with the Scotiabank. All of a

sudden security walks down I said oh fuck holy might be another one kicking kicked out on my own barn he comes to the guys security goes to the usher talks to them hey don't touch him he's good. The security guy walks away all of a sudden because there's all these people crowded there are feeling getting excited. I'll just hear all the I just inspired and embrace it. Let's go Right back down on the glass burn and turn. Oh good shell shock, but yeah, that was a little bit extended fear Fire fast, but that's really life. We're awesome You can't keep me. Okay We'll finish the show oldie always great having you appreciate you. Love you all

Go boys bumping guy numbers 35 13 Oldie what's your number? Oh I gotta go back to the roots. It's gotta be four. Come on. It's gotta be my number. It's gotta hit max boys One for max I'm going three memes you say a number what a nine thirty twenty one It's gonna be nashor it's an asher again a nashor again would be all time Pug looks like he's gonna cry in there. I Saw pug give a look I've never seen in my life. 95! Shane looked like a dad that thought he smelled weed. Love you guys.

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