Pardon My Take - Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March

Episode Date: March 3, 2025

The QB dominoes started to fall as Stafford is staying put (00:00:00-00:07:05). Deebo Samuel traded to the Commanders started a fight in the group chat (00:07:05-00:17:13). National Sports Podcast and... it’s finally March and we talk bracketology and games from the weekend and LeBron thinks no one should want to be the face of the NBA (00:17:13-00:35:44). Who’s back of the week including John Cena turning heel (00:35:44-00:47:33). Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni joins us to talk Super Bowl, coaching in Philadelphia, shaving his head, crying before the Super Bowl and tons more (00:47:33-01:20:20). Dianna Russini joins the show to talk free agency, NFL combine, scoop city (01:20:20-01:51:09) and more and then we finish with Lottery Ball (01:51:09-01:57:15).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. On today's pardon my take, we have a twofer for the people. Little Italian twofer. We got Super Bowl champion Nick Sirianni. Awesome interview with coach. And then we have one of our favorite recurring guests, Diana Rossini talking some football. We are going to talk some football because we had some news over the weekend. Matthew Stafford, Debo Samuel. We're gonna do a little national sports podcast talk as well. College basketball, it is March.
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Starting point is 00:02:59 most sense because the Rams were, you could make the argument, uh, like they played the Eagles, the toughest in the playoffs. So they almost won that game in the quarter and they, and they had a really bad start to the season, but then they played great down the stretch. Uh, it feels like they still have a window with Matthew Stafford. I think it's a two year deal. I was listening to Kelly Stafford's podcast. Okay. Um, and by listen to, I mean, just like anticipating what she would say. My guess is she probably didn't want to leave LA. I would say so. And you're on it. Like why would you, if you're Matthew Stafford, never made sense, want to go to the Giants, no offense to Giants, but Giants aren't going to win
Starting point is 00:03:36 a Superbowl. The Rams could conceivably in the next two years compete for a Superbowl. It would be crazy to leave that situation. So yeah, he's, he's set and now it's a question of where Aaron Rodgers will go. Giants and he's probably yours. I've heard that he's trying to bring Devante with him again. Yep. So he has a wish list and I feel like if I were Aaron, I would just want to stay in New York and just go to the other locker room. Yeah. Run it back. Get that solar, those solar panels on your house in New Jersey. Mm hmm. Finally, you know, get them fully installed. Yeah, all stretch your legs, lay down roots there. Yeah. And then it feels like the Raiders might be in the Sam Darnold market from what everyone is
Starting point is 00:04:14 saying. So I just love that there is a Sam Darnold market. Yeah. We need, we need a Sam Darnold market. And the Steelers are just going to run it back, run it back with Rossi Yeah, and Kirk Cousins gonna be a backup But this was the big because if Stafford had gone somewhere else it would obviously Had a chain reaction down the line now a lot of people are saying what are the Cowboys up to? Winhorse. Oh, what are the Cowboys up to because Jerry Jones? He likes to talk Jerry loves him some media He did not talk at the combine this year. He did not address reporters. And apparently everybody else from the Cowboys is being very quiet.
Starting point is 00:04:50 So what's what's going on in Dallas right now? Did you see the DAC Ben D'Anucci back? DAC's cap hit, I believe they'll probably restructure it and kick the can down the road. But I think I saw Florio report the DAC's cap hit this year is 90 million dollars. the road. But I think I saw Florio report the Dax cap hit this year is $90 million. Dak Prescott's cap number for 2025 is set to be nearly $90 million. A restructuring could drop it as low as $51 million. They'll keep kicking the can until they inevitably
Starting point is 00:05:17 take a massive cap hit after he's no longer on the team. $90 million. I don't understand the cap. That feels like a lot. He took a pretty big cap in Panama City Beach. This one might be even bigger. Yes. $90 million. I don't understand the cap. That feels like a lot. That could. He took a pretty big cap in Panama City Beach. This one might be even bigger. Yes. $100 million is a lot of money to pay. Again, if you're a Cowboys fan, you shouldn't really care. Whenever you see somebody be like, oh, you overpaid for this guy. Who cares? It's not your money. But if it runs into this situation where you're not able to pay anybody else. Yeah. I would say if the team suffers for it. You should care Yeah, and this feels like 90 million dollars again. They'll probably restructure it. We need you know what? Who's the who's a capologist that we can get on we need to get a cap on thanks on the show
Starting point is 00:05:55 Oh, just explain it all to us. So there's a guy was his name Jason over the cap. He runs over the cap, okay? I follow that guy online. He's good. Oh breaking moves cap he runs over the cap okay I follow that guy online he's good oh breaking moves breaking moves OJ Simpson yeah not in the more oh they didn't include him in the Oscars memorial he is punching air well he's the only one who respects OJ damn we also had an AWL that's okay I almost could see the Oscars honoring OJ more than I could see Adam Schefter honoring him yeah cuz he was say what was in movies say what you want about him off the field, but on the silver screen, he was pretty good in the naked gun.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Yeah. Way better person than he was actor. Yes. No, he was a good actor. I mean, he wasn't a good actor. He was an actor. Did you see him try to put the glove on? That's true.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Doesn't fit. It's too small. That's true. Yeah, just a couple of jokes about a double murder. I mean, when he said not guilty, yeah, somebody believed him. Yeah. Uh, so yeah, Shafty, by the way, thanks to an AWL who found it. He did. He did put Aaron Hernandez in the in memoriam Shafty tweet, which now has become the most important tweet I'm looking forward to this year. If if if anybody on this show passed away god forbid
Starting point is 00:07:06 They got to make shifty sweet, right? I Think you and I would I think Hank would I'm on the Christmas list Stephen Che would che I don't know if max and memes would maybe have to put a little we have to maybe text them and let him know I think I think shifty would do a max died Ingrown ingrown toenail. It is kind of crazy that every time somebody dies the first thing Adam Schefter does is he runs to the dock on his phone? Yeah, and then death writes their name in yeah death doc. Ah hit list. All right, so Stafford staying with the Rams Pft you got Debo Samuel got Debo big-time got Debo got a little you got a little upset in the group chat this weekend I did a little miscommunication a little miss cue in the group chat this weekend? A little miscommunication? A little miscue in the group chat.
Starting point is 00:07:46 And hand up, I think I was like seven beers deep at the bar on Saturday. I was watching college basketball, watching some golf, and you had a couple cocktails. And so the Debo news broke. I was pumped about the Debo news. Because I love watching Debo play football. I think he won our first ever award on part of my take for a guy who I like watching play football the most. Yeah. Debo is very fun to watch when he's in good shape. And a lot of people
Starting point is 00:08:09 are like, Oh, you got fat Debo. Yeah, he's so fat. You're gonna hate that fatty. First of all, number one, let's not fat shame people agree. This is not a James Harden situation. He looked a little slower last year. Yes, I agree. I may have even said at one point he was fat. Please don't look up the tapes But if anybody has perfect information on Debo Samuel It's Adam Peters who I believe drafted Debo and worked around Debo for a long time and San Fran He is now the GM of the commanders when I met I sat with him at the combine I told him number one if you need me to commit any felonies for the team. I'll do it. I'll be the fall guy I'm your guy for that number two. I trust. If you like Debo, I trust your evaluation. He's
Starting point is 00:08:49 like, I got it. And he's like, okay, I have the support of the fan base. Um, no, but I think he does know more than anybody what Debo is like right now. I he's 29 years old. It's not like he's super old. Yeah. He he's on, he's definitely on the wrong side of his career, but it doesn't matter because you're signing him. It's not like you're signing him for the next five years. Right. You're signing him for this year. You just need him to be Debo for a year. Yeah. The contracts big but who cares if he's good for a year. It doesn't matter. Yeah. Fifth round pick. Yeah. It would be one thing if you say if you sign him and you're like all right new long term contract for Debo. That's yeah. He probably has lost a step and he's not the
Starting point is 00:09:26 same as he was but it doesn't matter. You just need like 85 percent of Debo for a year. Yeah I'm pumped to watch Debo. What was the anger about. So the anger. So here I'll read it to you guys. So memes. So PFT said fifth round pick fleeced. Memes said Cowboys traded fourth round for Mingo. PFT said, okay, question mark. You traded a third to us for Dotson. Memes said, I'm not Max. I'm saying that's good. PFT said, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:09:54 I saw the M, my bad, so Memes, Max. And then Max chimed in and said, we actually won a Super Bowl though, so congrats on the off-season win. We'll take the actual ring. PFT said, it's a what have you done for me lately, Lee? Keep living on the off season win. We'll take the actual ring. PFT said it's a what have you done for me lately? We keep living in the past Max. And Max said, well lately I want a Superbowl. You on the other hand lost in the conference championship. PFT said last month, Max said by a lot. Also you want to take a look at those miles Garrett's
Starting point is 00:10:19 next team's odds thing. Things are changing. And P said, keep focusing on that ring. You already won loser. So I guess miles Garrett. I mean, let's be honest. Max has been milking this fucking super bowl for everything. It's worth a vacation. Not on vacation week. Kind of a loser move to celebrate winning a super bowl onto the next you eat. We're about to talk to Nick Sirianni. I think my first question was like, Hey dude, isn't it bullshit? You have to be at the combine. He's like, I've been working basically two days or day after the parade He's got a next man up mentality if I won a Super Bowl. I won't even celebrate it I'd my celebration would end the second that the Super Bowl Concludes super no Super Bowl Sunday you get to a Super Bowl Sunday midnight. Yeah midnight. Yeah midnight
Starting point is 00:11:00 That's it whatever time. So yeah, no parade midnight. I don't think I'd participate in good parade I wouldn't throw yeah, but you just talking about being a winner this whole time max Yeah, so miles Garrett a month ago max. Are you gonna get miles Garrett? I? Don't know things are changing Things are changing the commanders were the heavy favorites other than the other than the Browns No, the Browns were the heavy favorites. Correct, but if you were to bet on any team other than Cleveland, it was Washington, and now it's Eagles and Washington have the same odds.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Whoa. Okay, so but no one's a heavy favorite? No. Did Howie do it again, or did Howie do it again? Howie could do it again. He could do it again. I think what's happening here is the commanders and the Eagles both want Miles Garrett just as much to have him as much to keep him away from the other team in
Starting point is 00:11:49 The division that wants him. Do you think the Eagles are thinking about the commanders? Max sure. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, that's all I ever wanted. Yeah, okay. Yeah, I'll give you that. Yeah, have fun with Fat Devo All right. Okay, Max. You're the one Max, you're the heaviest favorite on this podcast. I'm not a favorite. I'm just heavy. Obese. Obese. You're an obese.
Starting point is 00:12:12 That was from the Yak chat. Yeah, the case race. Obese. I do love watching Debo when he has the ball in his hands. I don't know if you can call Debo a number two receiver. I feel like he's a Swiss Army slot. He just maximum violence maximum violence that's what I want he seeks violence and you know what he's a good blocker too that's very important bubble screen merchant bubble screen merchant is some some people would say
Starting point is 00:12:36 maximum violence or bubble screen merchant Shane told me he had the least separation the entire NFL last year oh that's true but Shane said he's not a separation guy married to the game. Yeah, he's a, he's a Yacht guy. Mm-hmm. Bubble screen. There could, there also is a theory that he could be unlocked now that he is out of Kyle Shanahan's offense, because Kyle Shanahan did try to force the Rock to Debo a lot last
Starting point is 00:12:59 year. There was a lot of times where it was like, they're just trying to get Debo going and it doesn't seem like the correct strategy Yeah, what's the stat with Debo and the win loss? In terms of like when he plays and when he doesn't play they're 52 and 29 when Debo Samuel does play I'm trying to figure out what they are without D with 8-11 How many times was Trent Williams included in that? I've worked this is Debo Samuel's okay Because there were a couple times when Trent Williams and Debo were out. This is? This is a Debo Samuel stat. OK. Because there were a couple of times when Trent Williams and Debo were out. This is a lose.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Purely a Debo Samuel stat. Just a Debo Samuel stat. 52 and 29 when Debo Samuel. It's pretty good. By the way, senior, he's had sex. OK. Remember that. 52 and 29 when he plays.
Starting point is 00:13:37 And when he does not play, they are 8 and 11. That's a pretty big difference. OK. All right, so what else? Oh, Trey Smith got tagged franchise tags So the Chiefs are keeping him and then Kelsey officially officially is coming back. Yeah as for the combine I had some winners and losers and it's just based off of Just tweets of videos. I saw okay loser Will Howard
Starting point is 00:14:02 Did you see the cut up of him throwing passes? That was tough. Very mean, whatever. Whoever did that to him. Will Howard also has nine inch hands. That's tough. So does Cam Ward. Winner, Tyler Show, because he has nine and three fourths inch hands. Massive. Massive. Also winner, Jalen Milro, Jalen Milro at the, uh, senior bowl. Uh, he measured his hands and I think there were eight and three fourths and he grew a half an inch on his hands to the combine. So now he's one nine and a quarter. I love that. That's huge. Uh, loser Isaiah bond, uh, because he said he was going to maybe run a four one and then he ran a four four and he wasn't even the fastest Texas receiver. Matthew golden ran a four three. I don't know
Starting point is 00:14:49 who's who in Isaiah bonds camp is telling him what to do because you just that's just simple like where you're putting the expectations. You got to go in and say, I don't know, I might run a four seven and then run a four four, but say, I don't know, I might run a 4.7. And then run a 4.4. But damn, I'm way faster than I thought I was because 4.4 is not slow, but it's not 4.1. And it wasn't even close to the fastest wide receiver. And he was calling out his, like setting his shot being like, I'm going to be the fastest to ever do it. And his former teammate Xavier Worth yeah was way faster way he posted something like respect those who came before you young one Yeah
Starting point is 00:15:28 Yeah, also loser will Campbell and winner will care I have him as a loser because his arm length is 32 and 5 8 inches Yeah, there's a lot of arm like talk the general consensus for a tackle is 33 inches So he's 3 8 of an inch away from having tackle length arms. And so some teams are like, Oh, got to move them to guard. I think the Patriots would be very happy to get him and put him at tackle. I think he's a, I had him as a winner because he, he hurt himself early on in one of the drills and then powered through it and actually had a few, a few of the drills he dominated, absolutely dominated. He, he's
Starting point is 00:16:04 going to be, he's going to be really, really fucking good. Yeah, I think he said I think there was a quote He's like Go look at my tape of the couple of sacks. I ever gave up none of them had anything to do with arm length Yeah, we're talking about 3 eighths of an inch here. Yeah guys lie about that all the time And then I also had Tyler Warren has small hands in wing size Which I still would bet on him being a very good player, but loser. How small? His hands? I think it was like eight and three fourths. Yeah, it's pretty small. Pretty small. And his wing size shockingly small. I have
Starting point is 00:16:37 a winner. Again, I think I would bet on Tyler Warren being a good pro. Yeah. My winner, Mason Graham. Yeah, because he said,'m gonna go to the combine But I'm only gonna do benchpress. Yeah, which rocks. Yeah, he's like fuck all this other shit Just put me on the weights love that watch me move beast loser Shador Sanders his hat was three-quarters of the way backwards when he addressed the media Oh, so cowards watching that like oh, yeah also winner Mason Taylor because he ran The line drill where you catch it catch it run run straight across the field Mm-hmm, and it was actually like beautiful to watch because his his steps never deviated from the line
Starting point is 00:17:15 It was a perfect perfect drill so winner That's one of those drills when you see somebody who's smooth and who's an actual athlete run it It looks like the easiest thing ever and then when you watch one of us try to do it. Well, I'd fall on my face. Yeah. We already know that. Okay. Anything else from the NFL? I don't think so. I think that was pretty much it from the weekend. We have free agency starting soon. I think the cap or sorry, the franchise tag deadline is Tuesday. Yeah. So we're going to find out what the Bengals are going to actually do do and then legal tampering starts then legal tampering starts
Starting point is 00:17:49 All right national sports podcast. Should we do a little let's do it. This is March. Yeah, this is March. Well My first national sports podcast note was Ovi Ovi scored another goal. Mm-hmm. So shout out Ovi He did and yeah, it was a nice goal It wasn't it wasn't your prototypical Ovi setting up in the office wasn't an empty netter nice little goal from the middle of the ice little wrister top cheddar 11 11 away, is that what it is? I believe so. I think it's 11. It was 11 or 12 And then yeah goes over daps up his son. I've got a new favorite caps fan though who tuna. Oh, have you seen tuna? I've not seen to bring tunas picture up on here. They showed this guy in the first period
Starting point is 00:18:28 Tuna fucking rocks okay He's a kid and he's wearing like pit viper shades max is oh for one on searches and a hat that just says I just got it the ovi gold now. We're just looking at a huge tuna max look up hashtag hashtag tuna This will definitely work it should have oh there it is tuna tuna love that doesn't tuna rock just a kid named tuna yeah big tuna love that that's that's our new unofficial mascot right now tuna ah okay yeah this is March though it is March Big time had a great college basketball weekend Hank At what point let's just get this out of the way. What point are you gonna start fading?
Starting point is 00:19:11 I have not lost in March yet. Just so everyone knows I'm eight knowing bets I I assumed Hank faded me when I got to like five or six, you know When are you what are you gonna do it? Is it gonna be Monday's gonna be tonight? It might be it's gonna be tonight It might be okay. All right I know You're so in my head about it that I know that when you do actually fade me that will be when I lose I Feel bad for this one though. I wasn't I don't I think it might be too early. Okay, I might just stay away Okay, I think it knows pretty crazy. He knows I haven't lost in March final Hanks troll brain
Starting point is 00:19:42 He's gonna kick it in right during the conference championship tournaments That's usually yeah, yeah, I don't want to I don't want to be in this spot for the entire month. I did feel very stupid explaining my wife that I was like I might not lose a bet in March and she looked at me like That's the dumbest thing you've ever said. I've said much dumber but as of right now haven't yeah I have not lost in March. So what if I don't lose in March? Probably another global pandemic. Yeah, probably another global pandemic. All right. So College basketball Saturday was awesome. Tennessee. That was such a good game. Buzzer beater, NATO, all time choke job. Just not call two timeouts,
Starting point is 00:20:23 not calling a timeout when your, when your team is getting a five second call taking his bigs out of the lineup on the free throw just just choking it you say choke and he lost that game more than Tennessee won it he he said it after he's like I was not good in the last 30 seconds that game yeah I have a question for about Rick Barnes yeah is he on Ozmpic I don't know he's getting skinnier I think that's just also what old people do he's just he's just wasting away right now. Old people just get skinny and they just waste away. So that could be could be bad. We also had no he looks he looks like normal Rick Barnes. There was a couple of shots of him on on the sideline
Starting point is 00:20:58 when he was yelling at the refs and he looked like a ghost. He looks old. We also had Rick Patino white suit. Yeah, finally came back. They actually struggled a little bit But they have clinched They won the Big East Congrats to coach Patino the white suit looked awesome. They did a white out at the garden Auburn is just really fucking good. Mm-hmm. That's that was my big they they went into, Kentucky And they whooped the shit out of Kentucky a game game that Cal would have lost. They feel, yeah, they feel inevitable. Yeah. Well, it's Auburn and Duke. I keep trying to figure out, I keep trying to figure out who else could win and it's going to be Auburn
Starting point is 00:21:35 and Duke. I like Auburn, Duke. I'm going to put some money on St. John's and then Houston. Houston, Houston and Bama. Houston and Bama. Oh, you're going to be a Bama guy. You're going to be a Nate Oates guy. I'm in. Also Kansas is very sad. Kansas lost to Texas Tech who is very good team, but then they had a controversy after a Kansas player posted. It was some fucked up things the fans were sending him and then Bill self had to release like a statement Basically saying we're trying our best It just doesn't feel good for Kansas right now, which which also speaks to how good Kansas is Historically because they are still a tournament team. They're probably a five seed maybe a six and
Starting point is 00:22:21 They have 11 losses, but it's still it's time in in in Lawrence where they're releasing statements. Yeah. And saying like this is really bad. So right now they're saying the last four in Oklahoma, Indiana, Ohio State, Texas. I don't if they I'll say this pre selection Sunday. I don't we don't know how the conference tournaments are going to go. Texas does not deserve to be in. They're bad. If like Drake gets kept out and said a Texas, if Drake
Starting point is 00:22:49 doesn't win their conference, I'll be very upset. The bubble is, uh, like some of these teams are just bad teams that because some of the smaller teams haven't had great seasons, I'll be very upset. So I'm going to say right now, Drake deserves to be in no matter what. Absolutely deserves to be in no matter what. Uh, yeah, Texas got smoked by Georgia and like that was a game they needed. All right. So yeah, they have Drake is a 12 seed right now. What is, uh, what do they have with Scott's at two or three three? Yeah. The Michigan state game was tough. Drake Oregon. Michigan State's really good. First round. Um, I also, let's see. Oh, shout out, uh, Omaha, the team. I don't know if you guys have seen, but they've been doing these wrestling themes all throughout the season and it's very cool. Like just small
Starting point is 00:23:35 time basketball, uh, getting some energy. They, they, they did a what this was, this hasn't Lina already. Oh, this was last updated in February 28th. That's crazy. Come on. He doesn't like to do his job. He's probably not. He doesn't like to do his job. He only has one job. Can you find the Omaha video though? They had a, they won the conference and uh, it was very funny because they had the chancellor pop out of a garbage can with the belt. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:10 And it was just a very funny visual because it's like a smaller Asian woman is the chancellor and she just pops out of a garbage can for them. And they're what I love about college basketball, like these teams in the smaller conferences going on these awesome runs. They still obviously got a win to get in, but it's very fun. No, that's not it All right, so Lunardi had he did put out search Chancellor updated bracket ology for Sunday, March 2nd. Okay pregame This is before the games today again. Why like there were some consequential games Michigan losing Illinois. Look at this. Yeah, I love this That's awesome. Omaha Chancellor
Starting point is 00:24:46 popping out. So yeah, so he did update it. It didn't get updated on the website, but he posted on Twitter and he says the last four in Georgia, Arkansas, Nebraska, Oklahoma. Now last four and first four out Boise state Xavier UNC in Texas. Texas is now out per Joe Linares. Okay, good. And then no offense, Texas. I've just I've watched Texas play the, the, the sec is so deep that, you know, I, what does Texas have five conference wins or something? So that's the problem is that we're getting to 12, 13, 14 teams in the sec. It's like, all right, we got to stop some point. Drake deserves and again, Drake could just be in because they could win their tournament, but
Starting point is 00:25:29 that will piss me off. If we have some of these teams that have were really bad, but they were in a good conference. I don't need that. So they've also, people are upset that Oklahoma is one of the last four. And why would you put Oklahoma in over Texas? I wouldn't kick them both out. Xavier should be in okay Xavier's been playing hot We'll all work out they won't work out. Yeah, look they have Xavier in as a first for Nova next for out I need max to get all the way back in on Nova. I really need it They got the talent by the way congratulations PFT on winning the Sun Belt
Starting point is 00:26:04 Well, I'm sure regular season. Yeah pretty good. We are They got the talent. By the way, congratulations PFT on winning the Sunbelt. Well, I mean, yeah, regular season. Pretty good. The second half of the season was a lot better than the first. Looks like Sraddlin's got the boys rolling. But now we have the Sunbelt tournament, which is insane. The format of the tournament is the better you are in the regular season, that determines how many buys you get.
Starting point is 00:26:23 So the one seed and the two seed get an automatic buy all the way to the semifinals. So if you're the last team, you have to win like seven games in a row against a bunch of teams that are fresh. Yeah, it's going to be an awesome tournament. Also, congrats to South Alabama, Arkansas State and Troy for winning the Sunbelt. It was funny watching all four teams, 30% of the league one. See, I don't, I don't celebrate co-championships for my conference. Unlike you. Well, I mean, four, four is a very funny visual. It's a very funny visual. I just didn't take my shirt off and paint my chest. You also took your shirt off. When? When we went to the Wisconsin game. I got caught off. Yeah. What are you talking about? I got caught up
Starting point is 00:27:02 in bucky fever. You were right next to me doing the same thing. I just thought it was funny. 30% is very funny. It was watching it. All of them post it. It's like, that's pretty cool. Yeah. So yeah, the bracket is awesome. The bracket for the Sunbelt tournament is going to be, it's going to rock. Um, and then Hank, I guess we said it on the stream myself and Hank are teamed up again for the bracket busters. Max is also involved. It'd be a real shame if we picked against Wisconsin. Do it. I'm pretty confident in their first round this year. They're not like last year where AJ store or we just take the Dukes. I was never picking against Wisconsin. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:27:36 right. Right. Roll with JMU. That's fine. But yeah, zero happiness in my life. There's the bracket right there. The bracket is just insane. I love this format. It is insane. It's going to be great because we already started. I think there was a conference tournament game tonight. There were, we've already started conference tournament week. So, but I need max back in. We need to get max back in all the way back in. Um, the last thing I had for the national sports podcast, do we, can anyone make sense of the, of the NBA debate? LeBron faces this league future faces league. Uh, can anyone make sense of, of what's going on other than I, I don't understand. Here's what I don't
Starting point is 00:28:17 understand. Anthony Edwards said he didn't want to be the face of this league. Anthony Edwards doesn't get to decide that. No. And we get to decide. Well not only that but when has there ever been a face of a league that didn't win. Right. You have to win matters. You have to win a championship to be considered a face of this league. It's not. And obviously if you win that doesn't automatically mean you're the face of the league. Like Jokic could be the face of the league but he doesn't. He doesn't like the media. You could make the argument you know Tim Duncan won a lot. He was're the face of the league like Jokic could be the face of the league but he doesn't he doesn't like the media you could make the argument you know Tim Duncan won a lot he was never the face of the league I don't understand how Anthony Edwards saying I don't want to be the face of the league like dude no one said you were you haven't won anything yet
Starting point is 00:28:56 yeah so I mean we don't really have a face of the league right now well it's the old guys yeah is LeBron the face of the league brawn and his stuff And I'd also I think of the Celtics win this year then then Tatum's Chillin Brown fuck out of here max come on now. Oh nice max. I see what you did there Hit you with the fuck. He's playing the video right now. Do you want to talk about that at all? Yeah, I don't know what happened for the listeners that don't know the Celtics lost on Friday night They poor Zingas wasn't playing so they weren't fully healthy wait says right here. They were up 25 to 3 Yeah, I mean everyone knows the NBA like a lead doesn't matter that much until probably Four minutes left in the third and Tatum said fuck out of here man after being up 25
Starting point is 00:29:41 Yeah, that's what you do like you you want your face of the league to be cocky you want him to say get the fuck out Here, but then you lost a regular season game. It's a regular season wake me up in the conference championship a Fully healthy Celtics team is not losing the Cavs. It was an absolute ref show, but it was it was I mean it's good It's a Missoula loves those games He loves having things that he can use to motivate the team and losing to a team That's gonna have a better record than them going into the playoffs like that. That's good. That's a good. That was a good statement loss Yeah, it's like what what Patino was saying, right? Like you you want to have these things to motivate your guys. Yes And then they came out and beat the Nuggets so no issue
Starting point is 00:30:22 But Hank you could also make the argument that the the calves are the One seed right now correct correct so wouldn't the Celtics already be taking them seriously because they're the one scene that's no They're taking them seriously, but now they're really gonna take them serious. Okay, seriously er. Yeah got it Also, John beads out for the year. Yeah, he's the knee of the NBA I really need the Bulls not to make the playing game. I it's a race right now. I'm active. I was watching the Sixers Warriors game last night just actively rooting for the Warriors and it's a weird place to be in. But you got to do it. Have they said they're going to break his hip or if they're going to do the normal knee surgery? Yeah,
Starting point is 00:30:56 how they can do this. He may never play again. He might not walk again, but he did get that MVP. Yeah. Yeah. He's done so much for the city. I think Peyton Pritchard might be the face of the NBA. He might be six, about to be six. What do you guys, but it's become a big story because LeBron, I don't understand it. And then LeBron said the media, you wouldn't want to be the face of Lee because the media is so mean. I don't, I don't think the media is that mean to NBA players. I think Twitter is like the like the faceless Twitter trolls are. But the media. Yeah. Shaq and Chuck. They do a show that that busts on people. But what I actually think that like I think the NFL has way more of a media
Starting point is 00:31:42 microscope on their players. I would agree. It's just that people, I think players in the NBA are addicted to reading all the hate online. Yeah. Just like, you should never log on. If you're LeBron James, you have nothing to gain by logging on. It's very weird to me because LeBron, and talking about respecting the game and stuff. And listen, I think JJ Reddick's doing a great job.
Starting point is 00:32:03 He's a friend of the program. JJ Reddick also did also did say that the, you know, in the fifties and sixties, they were plumbers. So, I mean, there, he, he was part of that media, uh, at one point, but he also respects, I know he did a show that he was respecting the game a lot and how skilled these guys are. I, LeBron gets endless praise. I don't understand why he is pretending like he's getting torn down all the time. He does get shit on. He gets shit on, but it's not like, again, it's by idiots like me and idiots online that we don't mean anything.
Starting point is 00:32:37 So yeah, I think trolls are the face of the NBA right now. Yeah, he's basically saying the trolls run the show. They run the league. It's Barstool after dark. Yeah, the chat runs a stream I feel like NBA players more so than any other athlete. They're just very very unhappy. It's crazy to me I don't get it. I just the face of this league again. You don't get to decide who's the face of this league It's it's gonna be whoever is a young dynamic player who wins a title Jason Tatum is you think he's got the aura yeah if you went back to back gets a final MVP in there it's tough to argue he's
Starting point is 00:33:12 27 it's also just such a funny thing to say like face it who's the face this league he might be the shoulders of this league he does have six shouldn't you have to win an MVA finals MVP? Yeah. So like one minute ago I just said that. He said if he wins, if he throws in an NBA NBA finals MVP, what if Jalen Brown wins it? And then basically the league. Yes. Yeah. He wasn't even on team USA. Can you play the clip? Just keeps whenever we this this discussion about face this league has been happening pretty much non-stop for five days now and all I can think about is Scotty Scotty Barnes future faces league Yannis had like current face of this league 13 month span when he was the face of yeah, he was got the bottoms future face of this lake
Starting point is 00:34:02 People don't talk about this video as much as we talk about this video. No one talks about this video. I know but the video is so good. Well let's find it. It's it's the Raptors head coach coach Darko talking about Scotty Barnes future faces league. But yeah LeBron I don't get it and he just LeBron's also done active campaigns like goat campaigns. He's you know, he's actively trying to get people to be like, hey, you're the goat status. Yeah. So to then turn it around and say the media is the problem.
Starting point is 00:34:35 That's why he's weird to start his own league. Yeah. He's just listening to the trolls too much. Scotty Barnes is going to be all star. He's going to be the face of this league. And what's happening over here during- Wait, he didn't say future face of this league? We made that part up. Oh no.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Oh, Max. Oh no. He says face of this league. He said- Future face of this league. He's going to be the face of this league? It's total crap. Face of this league? Yeah. I don't
Starting point is 00:35:07 uh, NBA players are upset. And then yeah, the LeBron went on S with SVP and uh, prayers up for SVP that that Maryland loss was tough on him. Yeah. Last week. Yeah. Right in his face. Yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Uh, okay. Let's see who's back. Then we have Nick Sirianni. Is anything happening in the Oscars that we care about at all? No. Okay. Jerry O'Connell is there. That was our Oscars recap. Good Oscars recap. Jerry O'Connell looks hot. Yep. No one got slapped. How many of these movies have you seen? Like I haven't seen most of them, so I don't know. Well you saw Dune 2 two summers ago. I saw... Yeah, Dune 2 came out in March 2024 for those wondering.
Starting point is 00:35:47 I saw A Complete Unknown, I saw Concave, and I saw Moana 2. I don't think I saw any of them. So I think there's a new Paw Patrol movie. Yeah, I liked Conclave, I liked A Complete Unknown, and I liked Moana 2. Brutalist like best original score Should have been doing to wasn't nominated somehow. Okay, that's movie score of all time. That makes no sense. Yeah. Oh I'm still here What's that? That's international feature? What's that? What is that? That's a movie about what I was still here
Starting point is 00:36:26 That's Stafford, okay That's our movie about what was still here. That's Stafford. Okay, that's our Oscars recap. All right, let's do who's back the week. It's brought to you by our friends. It truly, truly unruly is the first high ABV hard seltzer that actually tastes good. Truly unruly is a hard seltzer that breaks all the rules, drinks light, parties hard with 8% ABV. It hits hard but still tastes amazing. It's the official hard seltzer, pardon my take.
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Starting point is 00:37:17 So WWE. So he turned heel? Saturday night, he turned heel. The golden boy, pretty boy of WWE for his whole career pretty fucked up to do the week that Gene Hackman died Why that's a good point like because he was a human being yeah, and his wife him And he just decided that like oh, this is the week. I'm gonna do it Gene Hackman just died. It's true It was it was a great. I mean I mean, I'm not watching WWE every week, but a heel turn like this and just watching the wrestling community freak out about it is, can't beat it.
Starting point is 00:37:52 Because didn't he retire? No, he's doing a retirement tour. And he turned heel on his retirement tour. Correct. So he said that he would never ever turn heel. There was many chances for him to turn heel. There was many chances for him to turn heel. And then in his retirement tour going up to WrestleMania, he has gone heel. Pretty crazy. How did he go heel? He beat up Cody Rhodes. Yeah, he's hugging Cody Rhodes and then he not. Yeah. Rock said, Hey, do it.
Starting point is 00:38:17 Rocks also heel right now. Oh, it's awesome. I mean, I don't watch wrestling anymore, but I, I think about moments when I was a kid watching wrestling Like when a good guy does turn heel it is electric So is he gonna change out the jorts for like leather pants? I know Hollywood Hogan on him. Yeah, they're saying this is the modern modern birth of the NWO. Yeah, it's pretty cool It was a shocking moment and it makes WrestleMania great and Triple H is running basically WWE now and he seems like he's doing a good job and didn't Travis Scott like smoke a blunt put it out on somebody. He's got like punch
Starting point is 00:38:50 the fuck out of Cody Rhodes. Yeah, actually punched him. Yeah. It actually I know people were saying like is an all time moment and Travis Scott was there which is confusing. I think it actually is kind of funny because they were like focused on Travis Scott being there saying this makes no sense. And then you have the heel turn, which is shocking. So it kind of elevated the shock factor of it. Yeah, I think the pic like the the heel turn picture where it's Sina the rock and Travis Scott is like the biggest rapper in the world in the ring. Like that's a that's legendary. Awesome. Awesome. this is quite a quite a slap that Travis Scott he fucking smoked him so is is John Cena gonna stop doing Make-A-Wish now how how is he gonna be committed to being the heel no he's team
Starting point is 00:39:35 cancer okay yeah it's gotta be I mean I would like to interview him again and just ask the same questions and see if he remembers. Mm-hmm but yet Gene Hackman upstaged by John Cena turning heel RIP RIP Gene Hackman. Awesome. Awesome actor. Who's yours best Crimson Tide? Okay, PFT my who's back is hard knocks. Mmm hard knocks offseason is coming back But mmm, it's not going to be in the NFL because the Giants screwed that up last year. And I don't think any, I think we predicted that on the show, which is that no front office is going
Starting point is 00:40:13 to want to have every move they make documented so that when it doesn't work out, it gets thrown back in your face. So every team opted out. They couldn't find a team to do it. So instead, they're going to do it with Bill Belichick at UNC. Tardnox. With UNC. I don't know if that's gonna I don't know if that is legs. You don't think that one Tardnox?
Starting point is 00:40:33 Tardnox. T-A-R-apostrophe-D. Tardnox. You don't like it? Nah. I like I like Tardnox. Are you pumped for this Hank? Very pumped. It's hilarious. The Bill Belichick college story is the gift that keeps on giving It's like everything that he didn't want to do and didn't seem like he would ever do in the yeah
Starting point is 00:40:51 Oh, she's just you know doing all of it Yeah You know how they always have like some behind-the-scenes stuff on the coach like Matt Huber flutes got a haircut last year Yeah, that changed everything you think we're gonna We're gonna see bill Belichick hanging out with his girlfriend like date night I would say definitely date night with bill and his lady. Yeah, yeah for sure. I love that Oh, yeah, Jordan is gonna be all over that Mike tannenbaum he's like he's in the front office down there, right? Yeah, I imagine we'll get to see him a lot again
Starting point is 00:41:17 No, Mike Lombardi. Yeah Lombardi Mike Lombardi is something in Gene Hackman Hmm, we're all tenable. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, I'm actually excited to watch this I want to see it's gonna be a giant commercial for UNC. That's the reason why he's doing it. It's smart. It's smart It's very smart. You get a lot of publicity guys want to come play for you. It's gonna be good to have bill Great be so grumpy. Yeah, so grumpy Okay, I had John Cena as well. I guess I'll pivot to my second one. Uh Daily savings back this Saturday finally getting the later Sun Sun. What is it spring back? Yeah, so we're finally gonna have
Starting point is 00:41:59 Little more light out at night golf time ready to go Wait, it actually is oh fuck Sunday I was gonna say this is fucking miss it damn it although I was joking I thought it was still another two weeks if you fuck so you're we're setting the clocks back Shit. I swear to God. I thought that we had until like the second or third week of March and I was doing this stuff. That might be it. It might be over. The joke might be over. I fucked up. What this actually last time. Yeah. I feel like every single year they say that they're, they're taken away. Daylight. Yeah. It's just something that people like to say. Why doesn't make sense sense because it's easy. It's easy to complain about be like this sucks in the wintertime
Starting point is 00:42:49 Yeah, I think everybody agrees that it sucks But then if you was the thing if I love it now, it would be worse It would be worse if they got rid of it. We'd actually lose summer. Yeah, we'd lose and people I Didn't I always was like let's not do it because I don't want it to go get dark at 430 and Someone said once like well, what about kids going to school and pitch black and I was like good point That's a fair point. Yeah, cuz like if it didn't if we didn't do it, it would stay Light out till 5 30 or 6 o'clock, but the Sun wouldn't rise till like 8 a.m I think which would kind of fuck be fucked up if you had kids having to go to school in Pitch black and like walking on the streets like getting on buses and stuff if you're complaining about the clocks and how it works in
Starting point is 00:43:35 The winter time what you're doing it. You're just complaining about winter. Yeah, I like winter sucks I wish this didn't happen wait so this rocks. We made it. Yeah, we're back. That's we're all the way I actually got pre-matti there Yeah, I know it's not because I thought I really did think that it was not even close. I thought it was halfway through March You that's so huge. What are you doing? You're just looking at the weather max. I mean I do it all the time How we are we looking? 58 last week and then we had a but you know what the sun is nice this weekend What we got next Tuesday this is good weather report to oh, I'm seeing 40s and 50s
Starting point is 00:44:12 We can deal with 40 anything of anything in the 40s is fine And 40s feel tropical once you see 60s. That's when that's when it's oh, that's then it's on then it's fucking on wait Is that? Shalini lost best actor 63 on March 11th put your circle it That's when that's when it's oh, that's then it's on then it's fucking on wait is that Shalini lost best actor 63 on March 11th put your circle it that's gonna be a day boys Saturday for Patty's day rainy, that's ass. Oh Sat when st. Patty's day is Beautiful there's just really nothing better I It's crazy, and I love it that Chicago goes hard. It seems like Chicago's harder for st. Paisley than like Boston
Starting point is 00:44:54 It's like the biggest day and it's also the end of winter. I know I Know it's it's crazy. It's like people go fucking nuts for st. Patti's you know what a sneaky good st. Patti's Day city is Nuts for st. Patty's you know what a sneaky good st. Patty's Day city is Savannah, Georgia Yeah, Savannah, Georgia fire department fuckouts for st. Patty's Day. Yeah, I miss getting fucked up on st. Patrick's Day Should I do it? Yeah, you should I think I'm gonna do it this year. I don't think so I'm gonna by getting fucked up. I mean, I'll probably start drinking at 8 a.m. And then I'll go home at like 230 Yeah, it's gonna be awesome Yeah Send the kids away And then I'll go home at like 2 30. Yeah, it's gonna be awesome Yeah Send the kids away I
Starting point is 00:45:30 Just leave food out for him. Yeah, it's fine. Mm-hmm put a timer cat food distributors We've got a an issue in my house right now. There's an obsession with Max's, but The the cats family loves Max's but it was because of the combine on Thursday, which I fell and then I came home and little kids just love any type of injury and they just asked me a thousand questions about my knee and then to get them distracted. I was like, look, here's here's my buddy Max. His butt was hanging out and now all they my daughter literally was asking two days later like, can I see Max's butt? His butt was hanging out and now all they, my daughter literally was asking two days later,
Starting point is 00:46:05 like can I see Max's butt? They just love, they're obsessed with his butt. It'll come out again soon. Yeah. Always does. Max is just a hit in my house. There's just been a lot, I've sent him the videos. There's just been a lot of discussion about Max's butt.
Starting point is 00:46:20 I need to see Max's butt. Just keep asking to see Max's butt. Can I see Max's butt? I can't see my daughter, literally. Can I see Max's butt? I wanna see Max's butt. Just keep asking to see Max's butt. Can I see Max's butt? I can see my daughter literally. Can I see Max's butt? I wanna see Max's butt. It's something about my genetics. You just gotta see Max's butt.
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Starting point is 00:48:21 Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest. It is Super Bowl champion head coach Nick Sirianni from the Philadelphia Eagles. Does that sound good? Has that gotten old yet? Never will. My first question actually, and you can be honest with us, I think it's bullshit that you have to go back to work only three weeks after winning the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:48:45 Like I was thinking about it. You're an indie right now. You're doing work. Was there part of you like Me personally if I want a Super Bowl I'd fuck off forever. I wouldn't get that hunger back But how is it like it's it's bang bang the NFL schedule doesn't stop. You know It started right away because we had some coaching turnover right and so This is not my first day back. We've been interviewing and trying to hire coaches and exit interviews with players, stuff like that. And it takes what it takes. It takes what it takes.
Starting point is 00:49:16 So obviously, we enjoyed ourselves. You saw the parade. Yeah. We enjoyed ourselves. Yeah, we enjoyed ourselves. We had some other nights that we enjoyed ourselves, but it's right back to work to try to, you know, to go through the steps to put you in position to be able to do it again. Yeah. The exit interviews after winning Superbowl have to kick ass. It's just people being like, Hey, yeah, that was,
Starting point is 00:49:36 that was fucking awesome. Yeah, that was one of the questions that the exit interviews is like, what do you think we went, went well as a team? And so like after the first three where they were like, coach, we won the Super Bowl. I got it. So I rephrased the question, besides winning the Super Bowl, what do you think went well as a team? Yeah, those are good exit interviews, but just love spending time with the guys
Starting point is 00:49:59 and continuing the relationships and everything like that. Okay, so be honest with this one too. At what point during the Super Bowl were you like, we got this, it's over. Because I know the coach speak, you can be like, you gotta play 60 minutes, you never know it's Patrick Mahomes. But I mean, come on, halfway through the third quarter,
Starting point is 00:50:17 you're like, this is, it's over, we got this. You know, in 2022, we were up 24-14 at halftime and they were getting the ball to come out a half and they went down and scored you know we were up 24 nothing at halftime there and they were getting the ball come out of half and so we knew how important that drive was gonna be you know I think at 40 when we were up 40 to 6 I remember saying to our staff I'm like I think I think let's put let's take the starters out yeah and one And one of the coaches was like, coach, you sure?
Starting point is 00:50:46 There was like six minutes left. And I go, yes, I'm sure. We can take the starters out right now. Let's get everybody in the game and let them all in all play. So I think it took a long time. That's a phenomenal team we played with phenomenal coaches, phenomenal players,
Starting point is 00:51:00 maybe one of the best players of all time on the other sideline. And so it wasn't, hey, until lady sings we knew it we knew at some point Yeah, it was 40 to 6 with five minutes left to go. We could we could we could be there That was very nice of you, but you you beat their fucking ass you did You stopped him. Yeah, it was great. And now that you're a couple of years removed from the first Super Bowl I think you can say without it seeming like sour grapes or like you're complaining about it. But the the grass, the sod father from
Starting point is 00:51:30 the chiefs, he fucked you out of that. You know, the whole time during the parade and really a couple of the celebrate, you know, celebration, it really was the parade. I was like, it just, I don't know. It's just the way we're the way it is sometimes you're like man I wish I'd have been able to do this in 2022 that you know and so that and it was like you're enjoying it and the Parade was awesome and the people of Philadelphia are unbelievable and the and the celebration was great players everything But there are moments that you have when you have the beer in your hand
Starting point is 00:52:01 You got to point it over to the the crowd like man I wish I would have been able to go through this two years ago. So we weren't, you know, they beat us and they had to play on that field too. So I'll never, I'll never give an excuse on that. So can I tell you when I think you won the Superbowl? When I was like, I think this is over when you didn't cry during the national anthem. Was there any part of you that was like this time don't cry? Because that was also when you lost the super bowl in 2022 is like, dude, you can't cry during the national anthem. Like you got to save the tears for winning the super bowl.
Starting point is 00:52:32 Was there a part of you in game prep where you're like, okay, I know they're going to sing this song, like don't cry, like practice in front of the mirror, like have the last Chris Stapleton last time singing it and I just sit in front of the mirror and like, don't cry, don't cry. You're than that Nick. Don't do it. Football's an emotional game you know I would say it's just an emotional game and all the emotions yeah maybe it was maybe you know what that was your tribute to that yeah good I love it I love it. They had a crier too Chris Jones he cries in the national anthem as well I thought it would be just like an arms race.
Starting point is 00:53:05 You guys would even cry harder this year. Should they had to stand like right next to each other and just face to face and just look at and see who cried first? Yeah. Yeah. No, but it was a, it was a great season for you guys. How much credit do you give to big Dom versus how much credit do you give to shaving your head? Good question. How do you balance that? So nobody, nobody, nobody in the NFL does their job as good as Dom does his.
Starting point is 00:53:30 Let me brag on him for a second. Nobody is, nobody wants to help people more. Like is what in a, in a world that we live in where there's so many people about themselves and this and that, that's what I loved about our team too. We're a completely selfless team and no one cared how we won, they just wanted to win. And which is really special. I think I wish people were talking about that more, especially in the world we live in today. Our guys wanted to sacrifice for each other and win for each other and be selfless with it. Well
Starting point is 00:53:59 that's how Dom lives every single day. Like he lives to help other people. Is Dom in here? Yeah, he just wants to. He lives to help other people do their job. And it's special. Like it takes special qualities. And yeah, so that has way more effect on when I didn't have time to get a haircut on Friday
Starting point is 00:54:20 when we normally get haircuts. And I'm like, you know what? Hair's a little long. I'm just going to do it myself. Yeah, it didn't look great when I did it myself So my sister had to kind of trim me up there my daughter. I Got my wife hates when I do that I do it I do it in the summer every once in a while like, you know, I don't My daughter is so my wife
Starting point is 00:54:38 I know my wife hates it and then my daughter said to my wife like are you gonna divorce daddy now that I'm like She's seven. She didn't know what that means. So obviously she's heard that from somebody else. I don't know what's going on here. Yeah. Um, is that, is you have three kids, right? Three. Which one is your favorite human shield? Well, if you look at when Howie got hit by the beer can at the, uh, at the, and during the parade, it whizzes by my white. If there's, there's a couple of angles, cause it's like, they have a very different angle. Yeah. I really, I actually think I could, I could make a montage of all the angles of the beer can hitting Howie in the head. And there's one angle where it whizzes by my daughter
Starting point is 00:55:20 and, and my, uh, and my wife and it hits Howie. And I'm like, Oh, you know what better than Howie than my two beautiful girls. And it would have been bad because, you know, obviously after it was at the Cleveland game where you brought your kids to the podium. That's where you're going with it. Great move by the way. I tip my hat to you.
Starting point is 00:55:36 I have three kids. Like I know that, listen, I love my kids, but really their purpose is if I ever get into some trouble, I'm just gonna bring them around and be like, look at my three kids. Do you know, it's so hard to win a game in the NFL that my moment was never to be like, I'm going to shield them from a tough question. We just won the game. Yeah. Garrett jumped over. We were up what? Ted, nothing. And it was about to be 13, nothing to have. He jumped
Starting point is 00:55:58 over someone, blocked the kick and they returned it for a time. It's hard to win. Yeah. And so my whole thing there was like, let's, let's go celebrate the win. Some people in the media didn't take it that way. So I got it. I got it. So my wife said no more, no more kids up at the podium. And yeah, yeah. This year was kind of crazy for you because it started out things seemed to be like it was, they were a little bit rocky at the beginning. And then they kind of turned around a little
Starting point is 00:56:22 bit after that Saints game. Do you remember the ending of that Saints game? I think it was a Dallas caught that long pass right really broke the game open. Yeah. Did you feel like the season switched at that point? No no because the next week I think it was the next week we got our butts kicked by Tampa. Okay. But that was a huge play and it was an awesome play you know as I remember it we're like third and 16 Jalen puts a, we had perfect protection up front. We hadn't been doing much on offense. Defense was playing their butts off
Starting point is 00:56:49 and we hadn't been doing much on offense all day. We get great protection up front. Jalen delivers the ball perfectly. Jahan Dotson, you know, kind of gets Dallas Goddard open. And I think like three other guys ran into each other and then Dallas went and ripped it. But it is plays like that, that you're like, yeah, I think there's so many moments in the season you're like, man, that play, that play, that play,
Starting point is 00:57:09 that play, and that's what's cool about it, right? And there's teams that lost or didn't accomplish the goals they wanted to accomplish and they look that play, that play, that play. It just makes you know how important the day in day out work is so the breaks go your way. Yeah, so we've defended the tush push on the show. Thank you. I do have something. Andush push on this show. Thank you. I do have something.
Starting point is 00:57:26 And I say that as a commanders fan. I am not going to complain my way out of getting my ass kicked. That's not how football should work, right? It's a football play. Other teams are free to use it if they want to. They're just not as good at it. I saw that you were insulted by the fact that the Packers are trying to get rid of the rule.
Starting point is 00:57:43 You should feel complimented by that. You know, the compliment that I do feel from it is that it's stretched to every portion of football, right? It's showed in college football, pro football, high school football, Pee-wee football. My son scored on it this year. Oh, hell yeah. That would piss me off. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:01 If I had a son that was playing against your son and fucking sirianni's son is push push I mean, yeah get that play out of football. It's bad for the game Insulted because we work we work hard at that thing and like it's it's automatic Well, it's automatic it's automatic because of the work that's put in and because of the players that we have that are performing it It's not automatic like throughout the entire league, right? Right. It's not okay Well, Steph Curry shouldn't be allowed to shoot threes only in the fourth quarter can Steph Curry shoot through like what are we? What are we talking about? They can't you can't just make a roll-up because Right, it's it's benefiting one team and everywhere else. It's not quite as good
Starting point is 00:58:37 I mean we saw it in one of the championship games They got one of the teams got stuffed on it and turn over and downs in the game over Yeah, it's also very funny because it's like how do you stop the tush push? Like don't let the Eagles get to fourth and two Yeah, there's three other downs. No doubt stop them. No doubt We've been putting a lot of respect on your name even before the Super Bowl because it is like when you take a step back I know Philly is a tough place to coach sometimes But you guys you know you I think you have the highest winning percentage of any active head coach right now Four years in the playoffs two energy championship games Super Bowl and you've done it all
Starting point is 00:59:12 Coaching Italian your Italian is that hard? We're like sometimes your anger like you want to bang on a pot and pan or like just scream and like I like that's got to Be difficult you're doing it all under the influence of Italian. I think that's emotion, right? Yeah. That's emotion, right? And that's what makes me unique. Yeah. It's my emotion. And it's all Italian right there. No doubt.
Starting point is 00:59:31 I got, I got, yeah. You just try to be who you are. Players see through that if they're not. So the emotion of the game, the anger at times. Yeah. Right. The celebrations at times and talking with our hands at times that, you know, whether I'm talking to a, whether I'm talking to a player or whatever it is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:47 I embrace that. Do you guys, do you think you have too many Italians? You have a lot of Italian. Yeah. Can you ever have too many? I don't know. I like, it just gets combustible. So many Italians.
Starting point is 00:59:58 No, you got Fangio now, our, now our coordinators. You got, you got a Fangio. Yeah. You got Patulo. You got Sirianni. You got Dom.ni, you got Dom and you got Michael Clay. Yeah. All right. Like Michael Clay, their special teams coordinator.
Starting point is 01:00:12 So many Italians. There is one thing that pisses me off that you do. And I want to confront you face to face as a football viewer. When you, you line up to go for two to in the first half, try to get them to jump off sides, they don't jump off sides. Then you call a timeout. Then you kick the extra point anyways. As a fan of watching football on TV, that's a tough minute for me.
Starting point is 01:00:32 You don't like it? I get Matt Wolby. It's because I think that there's about to be a play. Yeah. There's no play. You're excited for the play. He's just going to kick it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:41 He used the timeout. Probably a smart football move. For you to notice it, I love that. I love that you noticed that we that's what we were doing. Well, because it could be like, oh, they just messed it. Like, I don't think your average fan notices that that's going on. They're like, oh, they didn't have the right formation. They just banged the time out. It's very insight. Impressive. But I mean, we did I change your opinion on no complimented you right. I appreciate the compliment. I think you're right that I'm a very insightful football fan But just the it just delays we get enough commercials already watching. Yeah. Yeah
Starting point is 01:01:10 Point taken. Yeah, so just think of the fans when you do that next time It's mildly annoying to a casual football viewer. Did you this year? Did you ever like go to Saquon and be like, hey, dude, can you just do that 60 yard run thing where you do? Yeah, I think that's the game plan every week. It's like, yeah. It was, I mean, was there- Remember when you jumped over the guy backwards? Can you do that again?
Starting point is 01:01:29 Do the touchdown play real quick. Do that again. I mean, he was, it was insane. Was there a moment where you're like, this is just not normal that like every, it felt like every week he'd just rip a long one. Yeah, no, that's how it feels right there. Like I think that the moment that,
Starting point is 01:01:43 I love the reaction of our sideline when he jumped over that guy And that's what we you know, I think we saw that every day at practice I mean not that he was like we're not tackling full speed and he can get jumping over guys But like you just see the athletic the freaky athletic ability that he has man And and I'll say this like what an unbelievable person like if you had if we just if you said say Kwan Barkley go The first thing that would come out of my mouth is this guy's an unbelievable person. This if you had, if we just, if you said say Gwenn Barclay, go, the first thing that would come out of my mouth is this guy's an unbelievable person. This guy's an unbelievable teammate. This guy's an unbelievable leader is
Starting point is 01:02:11 an unbelievable worker. And then we can start talking about the place that he makes. Yeah, it's all those things that make him who he is. You think he's a better human being than football player? Yeah, no, there's no chance. I think he's one of the best. You think he's a top 001% human? Yes. Worldwide? No chance. He's running back in the league. You think he's one of the best? You think he's a top oh oh oh one percent human? Yes. Worldwide? No chance. Yes. No chance. He's better at football than he is at football. Yes. Take sunglasses off. Yes. If I had sunglasses I'd look him down. It's no offense to him but he's one of the best football players in the world. And that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:02:41 He's one of the best humans in the world. Like probably we're talking top 10 human being in the entire world. You're going to say he's a top 10 human being. Well, I don't, is that if he's the top 10 football player in the world, top 10, there's a lot of people, more people in the world. Exactly. There is human beings. Right. I'd say the top like thousand human beings. Okay. So better football player than human being. You just admitted it. Thank you. Point us. He's awesome. And let us. He's awesome. What's it like knowing that at any given time, Howie could be working on something just insane that will make your life very complicated the next 24 hours?
Starting point is 01:03:14 Insane. He's got, like, no matter who is available, who's not even available, I feel like Howie is always cooking something up. Yeah, it's going to make my life. The secret to good coaching is get good players. Yeah, Howie does a great job of that. Yeah, it's he's making my life easier and easier.
Starting point is 01:03:31 Every move that he makes, it's awesome. I guess just like more exciting, maybe complicated is the right word. But yeah, at any given time, he could surprise you with a present. Yeah, I love it. I love it. It's the best.
Starting point is 01:03:42 It's the absolute best. He's the best. He is the best GM in the world I have no doubt in my mind. Mm-hmm. He is pretty damn good. Do we proof is in the pudding? Do I get max involved? Well, let me ask you this coaching in Philadelphia is tough Yeah, I think it's pretty crazy the swings you've had where you know Like I said, you've been to the playoffs four years or we've gone to two Super Bowls one one But you were also some of the fan base
Starting point is 01:04:05 had you on the hot seat. Sure. At the beginning of the year, some people in this room had you on the hot seat. Who was it? That would be Max. That is fake news. You 100% had him on the hot seat.
Starting point is 01:04:15 Come on, that's not true. Okay, so Max, come in here and ask some questions. Also, let me ask you this. So yeah, Max, come on in here. Super Bowl, after the Super Bowl, you guys go to the party, you're at the hotel. I would assume this is the pinnacle of your career. People are asking for pictures.
Starting point is 01:04:32 You love taking pictures with people. That's a moment that like, hey, this is what I wanna do. Share it with the fans. Is that fair to say that you love taking pictures with people in that moment? I love taking pictures with them. In that moment. Perfect answer, Perfect answer.
Starting point is 01:04:45 Perfect answer. I think it's the right thing to do. OK. It's an easy way to, here's my opinion on it. And I got my son, do I love taking pictures? I wouldn't say I love taking pictures. But it's such an easy thing to do to help somebody make their day or show gratitude to that person.
Starting point is 01:05:04 But was it, let me phrase it a different way would it it was an appropriate time for people to ask you for pictures yeah yeah now I had to like I'd normally stop and take a picture with everybody right but with that mass of like I had to I had to keep going so I yeah sorry to anybody I didn't take a picture no you did so so you took a picture with pug okay did I love I somebody in the no no Max thought he was like he was like I'm I'm so much better than everyone. I'm not gonna ruin this moment I didn't ask for a picture because I was like you know this is the best night of his life
Starting point is 01:05:36 I wanted you to you know enjoy the night and not get hounded by by a bunch of pictures So I thought out of respect credit for. I don't want credit for that. Max, thanks. I just got ridiculed by everyone by not. Wait a second, Max, you wanted me fired. So nevermind, that's not true. That's not true, that's not true. Yeah, you did.
Starting point is 01:05:54 You had him on the hot seat. I didn't have him fired. You had hot seat. You had your eye on Sirianni. People in Philly, you know, sometimes we get over emotional and we say things that we don't mean. Max is also very Italian. We actually are like the Eagles. We have our entire behind the scenes. You know who you look like?
Starting point is 01:06:10 Has he ever got Matt Patricia? Oh, yeah. He cosplays as Kelsey. Yeah, he cosplays as Kelsey. Little Patricia, you guys see it? Yeah. But we have all of our support staff is all Italian. So we're kind of modeling after the Eagles.
Starting point is 01:06:24 Do you have too many Italians? We do have too many Italians. No, we don't. I think we do. Not enough. But yeah, so Max is very Italian. He gets very emotional. He might have had you on the hot seat to start the season.
Starting point is 01:06:34 Sometimes you say things you don't mean. That's all. That's all. OK, so go ahead. First question, going off of that, how does it feel now to be in this class of immortality in Philadelphia? Like going into the year was obviously a little a little feisty with you and the Philly fans and now no matter what you do
Starting point is 01:06:51 You're all like you're automatically on the pantheon of like all-time greats You know, you know what I'd say about that, you know if someone a couple people have asked me like why why don't you get up and be like Look at me like do something like that, right? I'm like, you know, I'm actually grateful for Is I'm good this I know this isn't the mood we're in right now, but like cuz we're having fun But I'm grateful for the criticism I'm grateful for the adversity because it truly makes you and I look back at my entire life The adversity has made me who I am
Starting point is 01:07:22 I have no doubt in my mind that it would have been hard to win the Super Bowl this year if we didn't finish the season the way we did last year. And I'm grateful for the adversity, I'm grateful for the criticism. And the reason I'm grateful for the criticism is because, you know, I got three kids that I'm going to raise in this social media world that they're going to get criticized, right? And I'm going to have to be able to parent them in those scenarios. And what a great opportunity I have and a great experience I have of what we went through,
Starting point is 01:07:50 right, with the light on the other side of the tunnel. And then also, you know, we have a ton of players that get criticized. I love Brandon Graham when he talks about how he was criticized so early in his career. He put his head down, he worked his butt off. He learned from the adversity got better and He has the 15 year career, you know 15 plus year career that he's had that he's had and I love that I love that now I'm able to share that too with guys and so I'm grateful for it and and You know, it sucks when you're going through it, but grateful for it now
Starting point is 01:08:22 Let's get back to some fun. Well, I would imagine it makes it sweeter. Like, if everything's easy, then the great moments don't feel the same. No doubt. What 50 cents say in that one song, pain wouldn't feel so good. I'll take you to the candy shop? It's your birthday.
Starting point is 01:08:37 No, I think it was, I'll take you to the candy shop. Yeah, you're right. You're right. And then they did that movie with Old School, where they remade it. That's one of my favorite lines I know another Italian has walked in Diana Rossini's here. So we just were full of Italian. Yes They were close to having a Rico act on this on this whole room. All right, Max go
Starting point is 01:08:58 Number one, that was great I'm happy that you're in this moment now because like how he Roseman is another one that like people really criticized him after like the Jalen rager Justin Jefferson thing. You just say you you criticized him. You see this pattern here. Myself. It's good. And I'm happy. I'm happy. Philadelphia's turned on people who deserve to be turned on for the better. You're turned on.
Starting point is 01:09:25 This guy just loves to twist my words. I try and say something right. It never works. All right, next question. Back to Italians. Is Kevin Patuho Italian? Because I'm seeing different reports. What are you seeing?
Starting point is 01:09:38 A lot of people are saying that it's actually a Scottish name. I'm... No, no, no. I just want to dismiss those rumors. If he's been lying to me for I've been working with him for eight years all right all the way back to Indy and then here like if he's been lying to me about being Italian for this long he can't be who can like who can hold a lie for that long if it's not because he's been lying to me for eight years if he has no I love
Starting point is 01:10:00 it I'd be like he'd be like George Costanza if he can hold a line for that I believe it I just wanted the people of Philadelphia to know coming from you that Dom Italian Stamped Follow-up question to that. Let's get No questions on Fangio though. Well, I Okay. We got another guy. There's a nice Paisan. We got, if you have a question about this guy or one of our senior special teams assistant,
Starting point is 01:10:30 Joe Panunzio. Any questions? Sounds like a great Paisan. No questions, right? An excellent Paisan. I know, I believed it. I just wanted the people to stop, you know, putting out these fake rumors.
Starting point is 01:10:41 Yeah, good. I'm glad I was able to clear that up. But following up on Kevin Patullo, can we get the Eagles fans fired up? Like, what's he going to bring to this offense? Tell me about Kevin Patullo. Kevin, I haven't made a decision over the last five years, or really even going back to Indy without the assistance
Starting point is 01:10:58 of Kevin Patullo. And that's just in whether it's offense, whether it's head coaching, whether it's something to do with anything, he's the guy I lean into the most. And that's really, whether it's head coaching, whether it's something to do with anything, he's the guy I lean into the most. And that's really, you talk to Shane Stike and you talk to Brian Johnson, you talk to Kellan Moore, they all say the same thing.
Starting point is 01:11:13 This guy is a star, loves football, bleeds football, wants to do everything, has a great, look at all the players, all the players said about him after he got hired and the endorsement that every one of them gave him. He's a special coach and when you're able to, when you have a coach that you can keep consistency and continuity in the building for your offense that can be promoted, you do that. And we had a guy that was there ready to do it and I'm excited about his opportunity and I want him to do so well that he gets job
Starting point is 01:11:51 interviews next year but doesn't get them it doesn't get but doesn't get the yeah because I don't want to move on and then I hope he does so well again that he gets those job interviews again and he strikes out and being head coach again and then maybe then the third year does so well again Misses out on it one more time and then the fourth year of him being the coordinator then he goes All right, that's it Guys for putting them on the hot seat I He he bet he didn't wait actually apologize. Yeah. He said that's just the way we are.
Starting point is 01:12:26 It's like I yell at the refs. That's just the way I am. No, I'm Italian. I'm sorry. I'm an emotional guy. He said you're welcome. Because you thanked him for it. We're out of trouble.
Starting point is 01:12:34 That's an apology. Yeah. Emotional guy. I have a question for Max 12 months ago. Oh. Max 12 months ago would ask you. Come on. This was a question that you had a year ago That's a different. That's a different guy. Yeah, but what do you do during games?
Starting point is 01:12:54 I just got You asked it I just kind of hang out during game Yell at people yell people high five people, yelling people, high five people. That's about it. Yeah. Flip off a guy in the stands. I never, I didn't do that. He encouraged you, right?
Starting point is 01:13:10 He was like, he was like, we got to run Saquon more. And you're like, I will. And then you did it. And we did it. I'm like, did you like that? Yeah. I said, yes. And I said, okay.
Starting point is 01:13:18 It's good. It kind of became a little bit more of a topic than it was. Yeah. The guy, do you know that guy actually called in and said he wasn't talking to the whole fan. He was talking to me and he was having fun with me. And nobody went with that story. I know the evils of I'm sorry, the evils of the media will listen to what we want to listen to and not put out the other. Oh, yeah, we
Starting point is 01:13:37 definitely spread that you were yelling at me. Absolutely. No, I think we did read it because I think he wrote online. He was like, Hey, this is me. Yeah, the fan that he was talking directly to me. That's No, I think we did read it because I think he wrote online. He was like, hey, this is me, the fan. He was talking directly to me. That's what the guy said. I was talking directly to him. And I'm like, nobody even went with it. Then the story was written the way it wanted to be written.
Starting point is 01:13:55 And that's where it went from there. By the way, I think you misquoted Max. I think his quote was, what does he even do during games? I don't think that that's how it went at all. Well, it's good. I think that they're making this up. Well, it's good. You've got to super roll out. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 01:14:07 These are the burdens of leadership, right? Leadership's not always seen, right? It's not always seen. And you know what? I know what I signed up for. I know that there's criticism that comes when you don't perform the way that you need to perform. And that's what we signed up for.
Starting point is 01:14:23 I also think when Max said that you're like you know immortality I would say until we go three and yeah one in four you're gonna be back on Max's hot seat. That's incorrect that's incorrect. Well you know the the last the last time they told me about this when I first got here they said you know we won the Super Bowl in 2017 I'm like oh yeah I remember that and then they're like well the next year in 2018 we went three and out our first drive and they were booing. It may have been, and I may be exaggerating it. And it also may have been, uh, we were, we were, we didn't score any points at halftime and they were booing. I'm like, shoot. That's Philly. That's
Starting point is 01:14:57 you got to love it. You better score some points. Don't go three and out. Yeah. Um, all right. I had one last question. has been awesome coach really appreciate it row back question RHOB a CK calm promo code take 20% off your first purchase q-zips polos hoodies joggers shorts promo code take our mutual friend Jason candle why you got to hire him I know he's killing it Toledo but he's he's a hell of an offensive coach he's a stud yeah yeah he's a stud and he's done an awesome job at Toledo. Jason and I were teammates, right? Jason, I were teammates. His senior year in 2001. All right. And my sophomore year, it took me a
Starting point is 01:15:36 look. It really was like my second I had three more years after that, because it took me some more time to graduate Italian. Yeah, it's him and I were the starting receivers for the first two games I got hurt and I was out the rest of the year. But then Jason was my coach. You know in 2002 and 2003 he was my he was my receiver coach. Right? So imagine the guy you drink a lot of beers with and hang out with a lot now he's down now he's yelling at you and telling you what to do and everything like that.
Starting point is 01:16:02 Yeah. But he's a great he was he was a great coach. Then fast forward to when I now I'm going into coaching and I, and I take a job at mountain union now, not only is he my roommate, my, uh, you know, cause I'm, I'm going to live in his house. He's my roommate. Um, he's my colleague and he's my landlord. Cause he's charging me money to live in a home where I listen a lot of coaches lived in that there's about five coaches that Jason was making money off of all of us you know chargers right I got the room because I was you know they were a little they were all a year or two
Starting point is 01:16:35 older than me and I got the room that was in the that was in the living room it was connected to the dining room I had a sheet to for a little bit of privacy yeah no heat in that room so I had a sheet To for a little bit of privacy. Yeah, no heat in that room. So I had a space heater Oh, right, and so and I was still getting charged the same amount of rent as everybody else. So Yeah, and so no Jason Yeah, there you have it. You said it. Yeah, did he tell it? Did he tip you off last year being like Quinion Mitchell like oh Yeah, he gives great. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I just wanted to pump Jason Kendall's tires. Yes. He's awesome. He's awesome Yeah, he's done. He's done a great job and
Starting point is 01:17:09 Really value his his opinion on things and find myself checking in with him on what he would do in certain situations And you know, I know he's come and watched us practice and we share information and great relationship there and we share information and great relationship there. And always proud to check his scores or watch his games. And I don't shy away from telling people in the building, like they don't see Mount Union scores. Yeah. So I'm like, hey, do you see Toledo? Yeah, that's my guy.
Starting point is 01:17:37 Yeah. Who won that game. What is it about Mount Union that real football guys know? Like there's something special about that college when it comes to coaching. We learned how to win there in the coach Real football guys know, like there's something special about that college when it comes to coaching. We learned how to win there in the coach that we all played for, Larry Karras, taught us how to win, taught us, and then the guys that came back and coached for him, taught us how
Starting point is 01:17:55 to coach. In Jason's case, taught him how to take advantage of his tenants in his house with the heat, no heat and everything like that. But no, he just taught us how to win and taught us how to coach and taught us everything that he had to offer us to get better as football coaches. And how awesome is it for Coach Karras now
Starting point is 01:18:17 to see Matt Campbell doing the things that he's doing at Iowa State and Jason doing the things that he's doing at Toledo and Jason, doing the things that he's doing at Toledo. And then, you know, obviously us winning. He's, you know, he's got another guy here on the Colts. That's the tight end coach. He's got coaches everywhere that have played, either played for him and coached for him.
Starting point is 01:18:35 My both my brothers included that he's, that he's touched our lives and helped us reach our goals. Well, coach, thank you so much. Also congrats on the new contract. I don't think it's happened yet, but winning a Super Bowl right before a contract here, good shit. That was a good move.
Starting point is 01:18:52 That's some good shit. That was a good move. Yeah, that's some good shit. I know that you've probably been like, that's pretty good. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, congrats on that. Congrats on all the success
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Starting point is 01:21:51 You are a bad one. You know what? I'm going to boycott Insolidary. Yeah, no. What she did was she was shooting. Well, I know you guys were so nervous about us jumping you guys as the number one sports podcast on the planet. Scoop City.
Starting point is 01:22:01 Yeah, yeah, Scoop City. We don't even. A lion doesn't concern themselves with sheep. No. Yeah. All right, so Diana, we're here at the planet so. Scoop City. Yeah, yeah, Scoop City. We don't even, a lion doesn't concern themselves with sheep. No. Yeah, all right, so Diana, we're here at the Combine. What's the buzz? What's the biggest story right now at the Combine?
Starting point is 01:22:13 The fact that you guys did not go out at all last night. That is the buzz. We're 40. Babies, you turned 40 and you lost all your stamina. That's fast. Texting with you guys like, nope, go to bed. It's 8.45. No, I stayed up till 10. Also, I wanted on the record that I went home at 11 o'clock, but I didn't go to sleep till
Starting point is 01:22:32 one because I watched New Mexico lose and not cover till one o'clock. Fair. So I'm not 40 yet. So I don't know what that's going to feel like. Six flats. Yeah. So, but I'm learning that it hits you hard, huh? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:44 It comes at you quick. Yeah. Yeah. And we're losers. So, but I'm learning that it hits you hard, huh? Yeah. It comes at you quick. Yeah. Yeah. And we're losers. So, but what's- Do I need to fact check? This is going to get community noted. What's that? You're 42.
Starting point is 01:22:51 Why would you do that? Because you were talking about downloads. Oh shit. You made a very bad- That's the amount of downloads. I believed it. I believed it. 42 is the amount of downloads I got.
Starting point is 01:23:00 I had to community note you. I believed it. So wherever Aaron Rodgers lands, will the team let him do the Pat McAfee show per your reporting? I said that the Jets discussed with Aaron Rodgers what this year would look like if he stayed a jet, right? How are we going to do this Pat McAfee thing?
Starting point is 01:23:19 We would really like you to cut back on a lot of this stuff, the distractions so we could all be one, keep it all out, new chapter, new New York Jets. There was no ultimatum ever made. Aaron Rodgers is not in New York anymore because he can't do Pat McAfee. It was never that hard of a conversation. It was just, look, I was giving the Jets credit through the whole thing of, how about them taking their team back? Hey, Aaron Rodgers, you haven't performed up to the level that we've wanted you to. You're mad and rating-dipped. We've given you. Rick is very upset.
Starting point is 01:23:50 We've given you every player, everyone that you want and it's still not good. So we're going to start treating you the way everyone else should be treated. And I think Rodgers appreciates that. Like, I think he's the type of player where maybe it appears that he wants that special treatment, but he lives in a space of the best coach's lead the type of player where maybe it appears that he wants that special treatment, but
Starting point is 01:24:05 he lives in a space of the best coaches lead by holding the best players accountable and everyone gets that same kind of treatment. And I think that's what the Jets were trying to do. And in the end, I think both sides were like, yeah, no, this isn't going to work. Not just because of that. I think there's a series of reasons. Yeah. What about Miles Garrett?
Starting point is 01:24:22 What are you hearing with him? Yeah. So look, Cleveland is yelling from the rooftop. We are not moving him, but just, we've seen this a million times. They say that now, but I think when we get closer to the draft, we'll see some movement. I think Philly's gonna try to go hard here.
Starting point is 01:24:35 I think Howie is going to make some decisions here in free agency and determine who he can live without. And I think some of these guys that are up, he's gonna to be comfortable walking away from, um, despite the fact they obviously just had so much success with this roster. But I think you make those kinds of moves and you, you take a big swing for, for someone like Miles Garrett and how he will tell you.
Starting point is 01:24:56 And then I'm sure Nick said it too, when he spoke to you guys, like they build their team, you know, through, through their lines. So w I mean, what, what better answer than bring in a Miles Garrett. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, was this the first year that you had an MVP vote?
Starting point is 01:25:09 Uh, it was my second year. The second year. It was the first year it was revealed. Yeah. And I did not know that. Um, and I was out to dinner and my phone was blowing up with people, um, in football, very angry that I voted for, uh, people that I voted
Starting point is 01:25:24 for. Um, so that, that stunk. I wish I knew that because I think it would have changed your vote. It would not have changed my vote, but I love Josh Allen and I am avoiding him for a really long time. I'm well aware. I was really thinking about him winning the MVP. I feel like I have to apologize. I still believe my vote was right. I think I was looking at it differently than I think the other voters were. I felt like there were games in which the defense in Buffalo helped Josh Moore in winning those games
Starting point is 01:25:57 where I felt like Lamar had to do it more on his own because he didn't have that type of defense this year. That was kind of how I viewed it. Look, there were days I woke up and I thought it was Josh, there were days I woke up and I thought it was Josh or days I woke up and I thought it was Lamar. I like stressed about it. But in the end, I did vote for Lamar. Yeah. Well, you told me, I believe it was the Tuesday of Super Bowl week, Lamar Jackson, 100% winning MVP. And you knew that I had a future on Lamar to win that MVP. Correct. You said 100% don't worry about it.
Starting point is 01:26:25 It's already done. That was very mean. Yeah, I purposely lied to you because I knew how much you had on that. I thought it would be fun to play games with you there. That's very funny. How'd that turn out? It was not ideal.
Starting point is 01:26:39 All I have to say, the excitement in your face when I told you that Lamar was winning that whole thing was you're like, oh my God, oh my God, you were shaking, you're like freaking out about it. Well, I mean, winning a big bet in New Orleans, it's gonna be fun. Yeah. I was just excited to have fun that week.
Starting point is 01:26:52 How'd you guys do in New Orleans? Like just on all your bets? Eagles won the Super Bowl. It was pretty good. I made money at the Super Bowl, which is, it's rare. Did you go to the casino? No, did not go to the casino. You guys killed at the casino in Vegas.
Starting point is 01:27:05 Yeah, we did. Remember you guys were posting photos of all these, that was a little gross actually. It was showing off. Do you like New Orleans as a Super Bowl city? It was unbelievable. It was very fun. That was the, I've done 12 Super Bowls. That was the best Super Bowl I've ever been to.
Starting point is 01:27:20 Everything from just the logistics, the excitement, there was something to do everywhere. It didn't, you didn't need a plan. You could just like go anywhere and it was fun. And I just thought this, the fact that the Eagles just absolutely destroy the Chiefs, the celebration afterwards, what was one of the best post games I've ever covered too in any sport. Yeah. Obviously you saw Seguon go and berserk.
Starting point is 01:27:41 I've never seen him like that ever. Yeah. Like even in some, he's had success obviously in his career and it meant so much to him. And I think it was such a, yes, I knew I was this guy despite the fact that New York didn't think I was. You felt it. Vindication. Question for you personally, you left ESPN. I feel like the bet has paid off. How is it going? That's a scary thing for a lot of people to leave ESPN because it is kind of the mothership and all that stuff, and you've been crushing it in your new role at The Athletic and your podcast. Do you look back
Starting point is 01:28:17 and you're like, that was an awesome decision by me? Because it takes balls. To make that jump, it does. Thank you. Yeah, it was hard. And you guys are, you know, you knew what was going on with me on the mental side of it. It was hard to say, I love my job. I love ESPN. Um, I was having success there, but I, I felt like I needed to go somewhere to challenge myself. And this job is so much harder than what I was doing on TV. It's not even close. Like to have to write what you know,
Starting point is 01:28:47 and the written word compared to what you can say on TV, I just feel like it lasts forever. And once you collect that information and you put your name on it, and it never goes away, what I'm proud of it, but it's definitely challenging. I'm getting exactly what I wanted, I can tell you that. Yeah, you're a columnist. I am. It's big and your column comes out Saturday,
Starting point is 01:29:08 which great job figuring that out. Like good job putting out your column one day before everybody else. That is so funny that you say it that way. Very smart. You think I planned it that way. I did not. Okay.
Starting point is 01:29:19 So I was doing it on Sunday and it wasn't really getting much traction because Adam and Ian, they're so great at what they do and they were putting out news and I was doing it on Sunday and, you know, it wasn't really getting much traction because Adam and Ian, you know, they're so great at what they do and they were putting out news and I was putting out the same stuff. So it was like, why are people going to read my column if they've already seen it on TV? Um, so I was trying to, when we can just get ahead of stuff, because I wanted to go to an actual game on Sunday. So I was like, you know,
Starting point is 01:29:43 why don't we just post this on Saturday? I just threw it out there thinking it wouldn't really result in anything. And it was the best decision I made because I got ahead of the news cycle. Whereas like Saturday can put out all the stuff about the games and obviously people wanna hear it and read it.
Starting point is 01:29:56 Yeah, do you, so it comes out Saturday. When you write it, do you write it like Friday night? Yeah, I write it like midnight sometimes. That sucks. No, so no, my Friday nights are horrendous. I remember you used to write a column. On Monday, yeah, Monday morning. Remember that stress you used to have writing that,
Starting point is 01:30:13 I mean, you know. It takes a long time to write, yeah. Okay, I think there's a little difference in what you were writing about. No, yeah, my shit was good. No, yours was good, but it wasn't journalism. Yeah, no, I broke some news, it wasn't journalism. Yeah. No, I broke some news, but yeah, that's, that's fair.
Starting point is 01:30:27 You know, so it's stressful when you're putting information out that you know, is going to piss people off too, right? Cause that's the other part of this is when, when you report stuff, I think you know, people just take the information and run the rest of my day is filled with taking calls from agents, players, PR people. Hey, I didn't like the tone of that. What'd you mean by this? Even when I write like glowing reports about teams or a coach or a player, someone's always mad. So I publish Saturday morning at 10 a.m. I spend my whole day dealing with the memes of the world.
Starting point is 01:31:03 Yes. Like I could write a story. He's right there. Someone's always mad. He's right there. I can feel it. Yeah. Memes, why are you so angry?
Starting point is 01:31:12 Memes, get out of here. Let's go. What are you angry? You have a lot of hate in your heart. Let it out. Let's go. Oh, he's got a document ready to go on his phone. Oh, nice.
Starting point is 01:31:23 Oh, the group chat. Oh, the group chat is angry. He's gonna ask questions. You pissed off Oh nice. Oh the group chat. Oh the group chat is angry. He's gonna ask questions. You missed off the chat. Not from him. The text from Jack Mack said you did report the ultimatum. No I didn't, I never said the word ultimatum. She did report that.
Starting point is 01:31:35 You can write back here, take a video of me, ready? I didn't report that, listen to Scoop City. Hi, what's his name? Jack Mack. Inventor of Scoop City. Yeah he actually invented Scoop City. You stole the name from him. Oh, he was the one with the original Scoop.
Starting point is 01:31:48 With the TikTok. Jack, I'm so sorry I took the name. Either way, the Jets never made it in Ultimatum, and I never reported that. I'm sorry you took it that way. And who cares at this point? Oh, Jets fans care. Jets fans care a lot.
Starting point is 01:32:00 Also, here's the thing with memes is, memes, you can look up and see if she used the word Ultimatum. You can listen to the podcast and you can read my article and you can see what it says. No, reading a headline and basing all your facts on that is actually the correct way to do it. So memes, what do you have? Let's get it. Let's get it. Why are you guys on such a hunt to find out or discover if my reporting's wrong. It's never been inaccurate. Not one thing I've ever reported
Starting point is 01:32:29 about the New York Jets has been wrong. Well, I think your reports, the problem is the aggregators take your report and the way you word your report, make it seem like you're coming directly after the Jets. Feelings are hurt. So is your problem with the really so that's not so we don't really have a beef no she is dove Kleinman also that's her that's
Starting point is 01:32:50 football so so what's your beef memes the ultimatum that's my beef right else did the Madden stuff bother you the wassup the Madden stuff bother you? The what stuff? The Madden stuff? No. Well, yes, because the Ravens also use Madden rating. Oh, okay. So you should have put that in there. I didn't criticize it. I didn't have an opinion about it. I just said, you're the facts. You had the report that got it out there. They were like, Hey, we have an 18 year old running the team, which is a problem. But so again, your problem is not with her or her reporting. It's the fact that she reported something. There's 31 other teams.
Starting point is 01:33:31 Let's be even with it. Yeah. Oh, so you want dysfunction on it, on every other team. You want me to go find that? There's dysfunction everywhere. Not as much as in New York. Look, I think. You're so mad.
Starting point is 01:33:44 Oh my gosh, I broke your heart. I didn't mean it that way. Look, I think things are gonna get better. Like how about the fact that Woody Johnson came out and said, I need to be a better owner. I thought that was awesome. That was self-awareness. I don't think the article caused that.
Starting point is 01:33:55 I think he's looking at his body of work going as an owner. This isn't good. This isn't good at all. He got an F today, but if your reporting helps get Woody Johnson out, that's fine. What else can I do? If you're taking down the new leadership, the head coach. I can't win with you. That's what I realized. No, he's going to be mad at you. I think it's really just like the don't shoot the messenger,
Starting point is 01:34:18 shoot the message. He's just going to shoot the messenger every time. I represent the stuff that bothers you. And I don't want to, you realize I love the Jets. Like I grew up a Jets fan. No, you hate the Jets. I don't hate them. I don't know what the Jets ever did to you, but you hate the Jets. All right, so memes, do you have anything else
Starting point is 01:34:37 besides the ultimatum that is bothering you right now? No, we could be friends if you're reporting Gets Woody Johnson out. Oh, okay, so there you go. You've got your mission. No, I'm good there. I don't want to be friends. I just want to be cool. I feel like there's just so much tension between us. Because Max and I used to have a little tension because of our situation. But we've now passed that.
Starting point is 01:34:58 That reporting could have been a lie. Oh, now it's all called into question. Wow. I think that reporting was incredible. Wait, you are questioning my. We don't have to talk about that report. That reporting is fine. We are not going through this again.
Starting point is 01:35:12 We are not going through this again, but I can tell you. Stand by. I will stand by that one for a long time. I also stand by that reporting. That's a fact. What if she just reports occasionally better stories about the Jets?
Starting point is 01:35:26 That could work. What if you guys win games? It's a start. That could also work. I mean, if you go through a season where you fire a coach without like a plan in place to replace them, and then the guy that you used to replace him, his unit goes to shit, and then your quarterback has like the most drama filled year ever where he's talking about running for vice president. I feel like he didn't talk about that. You talked about that. What? No, it was you. You were the first person to bring that. I was the first person you said you heard it true, but it was true. Dan, I wrote some stuff about
Starting point is 01:35:57 the Bears. Yeah. How did they do? You dumpster fire. Did you call me like, no, they're dumpster fire. No, it's usually, I actually appreciate reporters because they bring to light things that should be brought to light. So it's like when there's a problem, I want it reported so that they can be embarrassed by that problem. So that's what I thought fans wanted as well.
Starting point is 01:36:16 I thought that type of reporting and journalism was something that was missing because there's not a lot of outlets that are doing that type of reporting anymore. But I found in New York, the fans actually don't want to know. They don't want to just say it's awesome. So you would rather like the fact that the brick Johnson playing Madden as the shadow GM, that's a good story to come out because then the Jets might look in the mirror and be like, oh shit, this is stupid. We should stop doing this. If they don't, if Diana doesn't report that,
Starting point is 01:36:45 they just can keep doing that and no one will ever know. But did you hear what I said that the Ravens do that? And they're one of the best organizations. Except the Raiden Madden, the Madden ratings are looked at by the adult general manager, not the child of the owner. A very, very important distinction. Which we stand by Brick.
Starting point is 01:37:04 Yeah, Brick's great. we stand by brick. Yeah. Brick's great. You probably listen to the show. I hope Brick is our guy. I hope Brick turns out to be an awesome owner. We'll see. He's getting his feet wet. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:12 So what are some storylines that you're working on this week besides Miles Garrett, Matt Stafford? Well, the receiver market, right? The whole Bengal situation. Like how are they going to pay all these guys? So they're going to, if they, I have a prediction, this is bold, but if they franchise tag T Higgins, I think maybe the hamstring injury might crop up once or twice next season. Yeah. He doesn't want to be tagged. They came out publicly and said, what I've been hearing is that they do want to work on a long-term deal, but I can tell you teams that are interested in T
Starting point is 01:37:41 are operating like he's not leaving Cincinnati. Most of the league thinks he's going to get tagged in the end, as you said, but I don't think that's going to be the good play. But I just have a hard time like doing the math of how this can all work, of how they can bring all these guys back when they're claiming it's going to be done soon too. And if they do, that's awesome. But so I'm keeping an eye on that one. And then just Kansas City, you know, like we saw what the Eagles did to them. They got to get better on the offensive line.
Starting point is 01:38:08 Um, they're, they're trying to get Trey Smith done. I think he was going to hit free agency too, but then they saw what would happen to Patrick in the game and they're like, shit, like we probably need to bring him back. Right. Um, so I just, I, I like this idea that the chiefs are going to revamp here and try to fix it the way they did after Tampa. Cause it looked almost identical.
Starting point is 01:38:28 Yeah. You know, I felt that same panic and I think we, we saw it in Patrick, right? After the second play, it was like, Oh, this, this is not the normal chill Mahomes with some time. Uh, he sees the problem, you know, Jalen Carter. Right. So is there a team that you talk to and you're impressed and being like, maybe they haven't taken that step and been a playoff team or like a Super Bowl
Starting point is 01:38:52 contender, but you're like, they're doing things the correct way and it's coming. And it's important too, because to differentiate, because I think a lot of teams talk about what they want to do and there's those that are actually doing it. I think the Denver Broncos are on their way. Yeah. I think Sean Payton's got one of the best grips on a team. He's so good at knowing what's best for them. He's hard. Like you go to their practices, they're brutal to watch. He's a little bit like Andy where they just go hard,
Starting point is 01:39:18 all subber. But just the fact that he hit on Bo Nicks and they're just gonna continue to build around him and they've got him on a young rookie deal and they've got a little swagged them. They want to compete. They want to play the Chiefs. So I'd say they're a team and New England right now, I'm probably most excited to see what they're going to do.
Starting point is 01:39:40 This is a gigantic off season for the New England Patriots for the future. Like I don't, I don't think they're going to be that great next year. Like I think they'll probably win seven, eight games. Well, actually that's probably good if concerned where they came from, but, or where they were last year, but I think it's the next it's 26, right? Where I think that's, that's where it's good. They're going to be, they're going to be contenders. They're going to be guys that are going to have giving Josh Allen a problem. What, what, what are you hearing about the draft in terms of their teams
Starting point is 01:40:08 that are, you expect to be aggressive, possibly moving around, possibly trading up. It's a weird draft because it doesn't, it doesn't feel like teams are totally sold on both quarterbacks, but we know that both quarterbacks are going to get drafted really high because that's just how it goes. But how is, how are teams approaching it? I know it's, it's funny. It's that idea of like, you don't go to the grocery store hungry, right? I always do. I always do too.
Starting point is 01:40:32 Every single time. It's the worst. Why else are you going to the grocery store? And then I start eating when I'm at the grocery store. Yeah. I need seven types of Oreos. Yeah. I was going to say, why do you always crave weird stuff when you go to the grocery store?
Starting point is 01:40:42 Right? I'm like, I'm eating Twizzlers, but I really want to, I want eggnog, I think. It's like that makes no sense. Well, that might be because you're pregnant. Not right now. But you were. Do you crave eggnog? I see Dan Lesnani goes, he's right, by the way, what an observation by you.
Starting point is 01:40:58 I got to high for that. Because I walked up to the table drinking water, which I guess in Indy, nobody's drinking water and I'm definitely never drinking water. But, but I was like, I need, I need to take a break. I've been going so hard from New Orleans to now. I need to just, I need one hour. And I just happened to see you when I had that water and you gave me that look. You looked in my soul. You went for three, you psycho. There is context because we have discussed the difference between two and three and, and how much it changes everything. So I was like, Oh, she did it. I can't do it. Um, physically, mentally. Um, my husband is the happiest I have ever seen him right now because of the Eagles winning that I, I don't want to rock
Starting point is 01:41:36 the boat. I don't want to shake things up in my house because like even like, you guys know how it is. Like I'm on the road. I got the two little guys back at home. Kev hasn't even texted me one thing since I've been here. No, actually he did. He asked me about something with Jalen Carter, just a stupid football question, but no like. I love that he just uses you as like anything. Oh, constantly. Constantly.
Starting point is 01:42:00 But in terms of like the happiness, the joy in our home right now is better than it has ever been. It wasn't like this after we got married, not after Mikey, not after Joey. Like it is so good. And we got to squeeze this thing out. It's eagles, birds. Every time I see Howie, I just like hug him.
Starting point is 01:42:17 Like you saved my marriage. Like things were so rough right there. Birds, birds. Especially when they, you know, when I wasn't too sure what they were going to be. Yeah. And Max had Sirianni in the hot seat. Yeah. Max had Sirianni.
Starting point is 01:42:31 I was doing the same thing because there were people around the league looking at it the way I think the fans were looking at it, which is with all of this talent and all the pieces that Howie has put to assemble this championship team, the coach can't be the reason this doesn't happen. Right. You know? Um, and so credit to Sirianni for, I think, growing in all of this. And he even sounds like he's, he's grown from it. He was tremendous. I, he talked to me right after they won right on the field and he was so reflective of just owning that it hasn't been perfect. And I love that about him. I'm like, yeah, like I wasn't good. I was too emotional.
Starting point is 01:43:06 Wait, so we went on a tangent back to the question. Who's gonna be aggressive? Oh, I think the Giants are gonna try to get up to trade out with the Titans. I think they're gonna be aggressive in this. They're obviously also keeping their eye on Stafford. And Tennessee is open for business. Like I think the approach that they are gonna have
Starting point is 01:43:23 headed into this is we need to get some picks. We need to continue to build because they were the worst team in football last year. After having a free agency spending, you know, they went crazy bringing in players, but they didn't really find any pillars. You know, they didn't find any blocks that they're going to use to continue to get better in the future. So that's really where I'm keeping my eye on. And I think the Raiders are gonna be making moves. I have my eye on them outside the Stafford thing, as I mentioned before.
Starting point is 01:43:54 Tom Brady has a lot of influence on what's going on there. And he wants to do shake it up there. They wanna do it that way. So we'll see what happens. Max Crosby is obviously a player that tons of teams are interested in if he'd be made available. But I think Brady's smart enough to know. You don't move a guy like Max Crosby. Yeah. What's up with this contract? Isn't it non-guaranteed? He's got two years left, no guaranteed money?
Starting point is 01:44:19 They keep saying that they're going to be extending him or at least working on it, but until you have a deal, right? It it, but until you have a deal, right? It's like, until you have a deal, you don't have a deal. Yeah. Um, I think his situation is different than like Miles Garrett, where Miles wants to get paid. Of course he's, he wants to be paid the highest
Starting point is 01:44:35 in that position, but, uh, he really wants to win. Like he, he's got this attitude, like it's not happening here in Cleveland. Like I don't like your plan. And I think we could all agree that the plan's not great, right? Yeah. I don't even know what they're going to do in terms of quarterback here. Um, plan. And I think we could all agree that the plan is not great, right? I don't even
Starting point is 01:44:45 know what they're going to do in terms of quarterback here. I mean, I think they're gonna wind up drafting one probably that's definitely on the table for them. They poked around on the Stafford stuff a little but they're not as aggressive as the Giants and the Raiders at this point. But I think for Max, he just wants to win too like but but he's gonna get paid. What do you do you miss at at all the Sunday morning routine of going? Of freezing water?
Starting point is 01:45:11 Yeah, that was an all time clip. Love that when you were like, look how cold it is in Foxborough. You turn the water upside down and it was cold water. You didn't point out that it was cold water. You were just like, oh, it's still liquid, but it was really cold. I know it doesn't shock you guys because you know me for so long, but my dad said this to me once.
Starting point is 01:45:28 He's like, you're the smartest dumb person I know. Like I have moments where I think that's a good place to be. That's really good. I can be really, you're actually like that. You are the poster child. It's a great spot. You have some brilliant, like just you're a talented human being,
Starting point is 01:45:43 but you say things, but I've heard you say things where I'm like, Dan is dumb. Well, cause you never know. You can keep people on their toes. Like we did a Pope watch on Monday and people were like, dude, you just said a bunch of like St. Louis Cardinals prospects.
Starting point is 01:45:55 It was like, I did that on purpose, but I also could have made a mistake, kind of never know. It is, it is a good way to keep people, you know, ready for, or unready for what you got. So yeah, a team we haven't talked about in a while, I feel like. The Cowboys. Was the league shocked when they went with Brian Schottenheimer and that entire coaching search? Because it didn't feel like they did a coaching search. Yeah. I'd heard they did a little bit. I'd heard that they did some back door stuff.
Starting point is 01:46:22 They weren't sure they were really going to move on from Mike. So let's start there, right? So there was obviously not some big plan, right? Cause most of these teams know, all right, we're going to, we're firing this guy. Let's start putting the feelers out. Let's, let's have a, let's beat and think about what it is that we're looking for in this next head coach. But I think for Dallas, they weren't sure how that was going to go with Mike.
Starting point is 01:46:41 I think they thought he'd stay. I thought that they'd be able to knock out a contract. They obviously were not able to do that after, after having go with Mike. I think they thought he'd stay. I thought that they'd be able to knock out a contract. They obviously were not able to do that after having conversations with him. And at the time Belichick was already kind of doing the North Carolina thing. And I'd heard that Dallas had some fielders out to him. So if that's their search, I mean, they probably could have been better. They probably could have gotten more opportunities with other coaches if they made the call earlier. Right. So you could be critical of that.
Starting point is 01:47:08 Yeah, it felt clunky. Very clunky. And I can tell you though, from the perspective of the Dallas Cowboys, Brian Schottenheimer had to be a piece of it. Whether that meant head coach, OC, they were not parting ways with Brian Schottenheimer. So yeah, surprised that he's the head coach,
Starting point is 01:47:24 but not as surprised knowing that that was part of the formula for what they wanted in Next. Right. Well, they also had a phone call to Deion Sanders. Yeah. Right. You talked to Jerry Jones, talked to him. I remember, so that story came out and you know, as a reporter, you start making calls like, is this real? Like, this is crazy. And everyone that I trust was like, this is not real. This is not the, like, I'm going to go hard on this. If I go hard, you know, the chances of Dion tweeting about are probably good. Like if I'm wrong on it. So I'm like, you know,
Starting point is 01:47:51 I'm just going to go for it. And obviously panned out to just be light flirting. Maybe not even like a call of like, how are you, how are the kids at Dion and ultimate them. Yeah. Um, all right. I had one last question. It's a one last question. It's a rollback question. R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q-zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rollback.com promo code take. So we had Shepter on on Friday's show.
Starting point is 01:48:15 I'm going to ask you a similar question. The NFL can't do a Super Bowl abroad. Can you make sure that doesn't happen? Why not? Why don't you want to do it? It's our game. It's our game. Don't do that. I mean, look, coming off New Orleans, it's hard to imagine like the travel. Like if you took the logistics out of it,
Starting point is 01:48:32 yeah, would you be into it? No, no, no, it's our game. It's America's game. You can't give the game to another country. The food in London sucks. It doesn't have to laugh. The teeth are bad. You have media members just complaining all week. Teeth are bad. You think the teeth would affect the- The teeth are bad in London. I'm sorry. Yeah, I have bad teeth.
Starting point is 01:48:49 Okay, what if it was in Italy? And we got to eat really well. Perverts. Too many perverts. And what are the teeth like in Italy? Are you calling Italians perverts? I just, I don't think that the NFL should do an overseas game for the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 01:49:02 I'm open to it. Okay. I don't like that. I like the girls. So we can't rely on you. You can't depend on me to say, I'll take. Memes are starting to make a lot of sense.
Starting point is 01:49:12 I see what you're saying, Memes. This is a bad, bad opinion that we have. As somebody who is complaining about the travel to every Super Bowl, you're right, like taking a 10 hour flight for that week would be miserable. Imagine being stuck next to Max on the flight over to London. Yeah, not great.
Starting point is 01:49:29 Yeah. We're done talking about that. Literally, that would be, he'd gas you out. I do have a complaint. Sure. It seems that you've turned your back on Washington DC. What? You used to be, you used to dabble in DC Homerism.
Starting point is 01:49:40 I'm all, I tweet every time they win, like I can't imagine what it's like in Washington. Holy crap, Jayden's amazing. Like Dan Quinn, coach of the year. Like what are you talking about? He used to gas up the capitals occasionally. I did. You're the only one who talked about the wizards. I was watching Ovi the other day. How is he still playing? It's crazy. He's awesome. You want to talk about us being old? Like he is old and he's out here chasing. Um, I think this, it's almost unbelievable. I think that's what it is. It's been so good.
Starting point is 01:50:09 And if it appears from ownership down and the way they're building it, that it's almost hard to fathom that it's real, you know? So it's not that I don't want to jump on it. It's just, I need one more year to be like, okay, they're really good. This is great. Because my hopes now are high.
Starting point is 01:50:25 My hopes are high for the Bears. If they can improve Caleb, get him an offensive line, get a couple of weapons on defense, I think. It's a lot of things you just said. It's a lot. Ben Johnson seems like he's the guy. I think so. I think he is.
Starting point is 01:50:37 And this, oh man. All right, well, Diana, thank you as always. You're the best. It's great having you on. Full Italian podcast with you and Nick Sirianni. So much. Big time. Love it.
Starting point is 01:50:48 We need a good food. That's what I need to be doing. Do you have any questions for us? How to get those numbers up on Scoop City? I think you need to rebrand to the Diana Rossini podcast featuring Diana Rossini. You think that's what I should rename it? That's what memes called it.
Starting point is 01:50:59 Yeah. The Diana Rossini podcast? Yeah. Yeah. You don't like Scoop City? No, I like Scoop City. You stole it from Jack Mack, but I like Scoop City. Sorry about that. Yeah. Oh, you don't like Scoop City? No, I like Scoop City. You stole it from Jack Mack, but I like Scoop City. I told you how people were asking me in football
Starting point is 01:51:09 if it was a podcast about ice cream. That would be weird. I would listen to it. You know what? I'll break my boycott and I'll come on if we only talk about ice cream. Perfect. No questions about anything else.
Starting point is 01:51:20 Just ice cream talk. Have all the Bears fans tune in thinking they're gonna give the hot takes about Chicago. Even call it like the Sunday mail bag, but it's spelled S-U-N-D-A-E. Oh, that's smart. I'll take my shirt off. I need some ice cream.
Starting point is 01:51:32 Another good idea. So I'll take it. I'll take it and run with it. So thank you. All right. Thank you so much, Diana. Should I have a third? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:40 Yeah. It's a lot, but it's also gonna be awesome when they're all a little older. Let's just go for two back to back Super Bowls. Yeah, there you go. That's a lot, but it's also going to be awesome when they're all a little older. Let's just go for two back to back Super Bowl. Yeah, there you go. That's what I'm going for. Then you'll have the third after you win a second Super Bowl. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:53 Super Bowl baby. Yeah, exactly. All right. Thanks, Thay. Thanks, guys. Okay, let's wrap up. Adrian Brody threw his gum at his wife. That's our other Oscars.. Yeah, why I don't know
Starting point is 01:52:07 You had to go up and give a speech Any through his gum at her he was he had gum in his mouth and he tossed it back at her This is some high-level Oscars. I would never do that will Smith It's been topped. Yes. Mm-hmm. What just search Adrian Brody. What are you doing? Best picture? Oh Yes. What? Just search Asia and Brody. What are you doing? Best picture. I don't know. Shane. Oh, that's weird. Max search best picture and it was just a highlight of Cooper. Jean's pick six. No, it was. Oh, it's Devante Smith. Sorry. Uh, all right. Thank you. Nick. Sir. Honey. Diana. Racini. Let's do numbers. We got to get it. Someone's got to get it. Six three in a while. I think memes are going to get it today. That would be sick. Pug, are you a little upset
Starting point is 01:52:48 at yourself because someone pointed out that if you had continued your working backwards from 99, you would have gotten it on Friday at 93? Yeah, I would have kept getting it if I kept going down from 98, but I couldn't forgive myself if 99 did show up and I went like 90 For something. Yeah, I just got to stick with it brutal Okay Say the numbers again Three six twenty seven. I'll go 77 for Luca 99 put 24 look it might be the chins of this 21
Starting point is 01:53:30 11 memes you ever gotten this nope Are you ever gonna get it? I think means we're gonna get it today's would you pick? These birthday by the way 30 have your birthday me, today's your fucking birthday? Well, not today. Today, people are on tour. Which is today. Oh, so I didn't miss your birthday. I got all day to fucking throw gifts at you. Memes, I got your present. Did you?
Starting point is 01:53:58 Yeah. Cool. It's flight simulator. It's getting delivered to the office. Oh, fuck me. 32. There's a 3 in there, Memes. You know what? For Memes' birthday, let's run it again. This counts.
Starting point is 01:54:08 Yep. Okay. Three. Let's go. Come on, Memes. Eleven. I'll go thirty. I'm glad that wasn't thirty-three, because that was the other one. Three-three.
Starting point is 01:54:14 I'll go thirty-three, Memes. Damn it. It's your birthday, Memes. 30th. I'll go five. Ugh. Ninety-nine, Poe. Seven-seven.
Starting point is 01:54:24 Jack, quick, seven-seven. Oh, you fucking dick, Jack. uh 99 poke Are you fucking dick Jack? He did 77 yeah 77 right after I did what was he didn't even know he doesn't know he didn't know What was your number last time Jack? 24 I go 24 She you're out on 33? I'm out on 33. I'll take 33. Alright, everyone say their number. 5. 30. 11. 3. Wait, why it's max?
Starting point is 01:54:53 9 or 9. 24. 77. People are gonna think from the timestamps that someone got it. People are going to think from the time stamps that someone got it. Five! Yes, PFG! Let's go! Yes! Memes is the only thing memes had over you, you've now erased on his birthday!
Starting point is 01:55:20 Happy birthday! I thought you were going to say I got some memes. You know what? You know what? You know what I? Got I got memes a present. It's the number five memes. I'd like you to have this I'd like you to go fuck. He said he said I'm taller than him so technically I have everything over him That's good. That's good memes. I want to award to you not gonna get angry Wow am I allowed to do that? Can I give memes mine? No, you're not but it's a nice just I can't do it. I I wanted to I wish
Starting point is 01:55:48 I'm literally trying to do that right now. Hold on. Let me pull up the bylaws Okay, real quick because I as it stands this five that I just picked for myself. I would rather memes have it I want to give that five to memes. I want memes to get his first hit Okay. All right. I'm finding it under section 17 rule number 84 it says that no lottery ball participant can give their winning ball to anyone else even if it's their birthday even if it's memes birthday is actually what it says except for that one well though that wasn't that was different that wasn't it before that was before the selection
Starting point is 01:56:27 I have some stupid fucking rule, but now means you got nut you got nothing man shit. You got nothing Yeah, I got nothing. Happy birthday memes memes. You know what one more just for you. You're the only one who could say the number It's gotta be three okay. Yeah, it does doesn't it yeah? Oh? It's gotta be three. Okay. Yeah, it does, doesn't it? Yeah. Oh memes, gotta be three. You so do.
Starting point is 01:56:47 Are you sure? It has to be. Are you sure memes? I don't think it's gonna be three. You should pick another number right now. No, it's gonna be three. You should pick another number right now. It's gonna be three?
Starting point is 01:56:55 It's not gonna be three. I can't believe he's never gotten this. Come on memes. It's so easy. You got this. Oh six! You're so close damn Didn't Hank pick that before?
Starting point is 01:57:10 Fuck I picked six memes I Told you to pick a different number you want to do one more memes all right one more. Yeah, we'll keep going Obvious never gonna get it. There's an obvious number is it three? No Five six seven, but I'm gonna pick seven and then three is gonna. No, you got it memes pick your number Okay, I want to be so bad nothing would be better Nothing would be better. Ah 81 not even close. Not even close. Memes you're gonna get this.
Starting point is 01:57:51 Nah he's not. He's never gonna get it. Happy birthday though Memes. Happy birthday. Tardnox was crazy. Love you guys. Love you Memes. Yeah fuck off. So So I'm gonna be a star, I'm gonna be a star I'm gonna be a star, I'm gonna be a star I'm gonna be a star, I'm gonna be a star I'm gonna be a star, I'm gonna be a star I'm gonna be a star, I'm gonna be a star
Starting point is 01:59:15 I'm gonna be a star, I'm gonna be a star I'm gonna be a star, I'm gonna be a star I'm gonna be a star, I'm gonna be a star I'm gonna be a star, I'm gonna be a star So So Music

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