Pardon My Take - Eddie George, NFL Draft Recap, And Monday Reading - The Definition Of Cheugy

Episode Date: May 3, 2021

The NFL Draft is complete and we recap with grades, stories, and Belichick's new language that he invented (2:59 - 31:04). Kentucky Derby and Aaron Rodgers looks like he's wilting away (31:04 - 37:33). Who's back of the week including Manchester United fans storming the pitch (37:33 - 55:36). Awesome interview with Heisman trophy winner Eddie George about his new coaching gig, winning the Heisman, doghouses, Jeff Fisher and more (55:36 - 93:40). We finish with Monday Reading from the NY Times on the definition of Cheugy.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Well, no, it's a graders F. It's what everyone would, if you took all the mock drafts, you know what, fuck it, we'll just talk about it in a second. It's very confusing, but not confusing at all. It also means absolutely nothing. Correct. But that's the best part about grading the drafts. We have that.

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Okay, let's go. Welcome to part of my take presented by Chevy Silverado, the most advanced Silverado ever, the greatest truck ever created. Today is Monday, May 3rd, and congratulations, everyone. We are still alive. Fuck you, Kyle Shanahan. Most of us. Jimmy Garoppolo still hasn't responded to my inquiry.

By the way, Jimmy hasn't tweeted since 2019. But guess what? PFT. Jimmy G. got, he did an old vet move. So when they, when they drafted Trey Lance, the first story out from the Niners camp from I think John Lynch reported it, Jimmy G. was the first one to text Trey Lance. I imagine he just said, get out. Yeah.

I imagine, I imagine that John Lynch probably just had a burner phone was like, what up Trey? It's Jimmy G. Love to have, like love to take you under my wing, dude. So I'm a little bit concerned about Trey Lance because for all the talk of Kyle Shanahan and whether or not he was going to murder Jimmy Garoppolo, you do have to ask, like we talk about coach killing quarterbacks, right? He might be a quarterback killer. If you go back and you look at the quarterbacks that have played under Kyle Shanahan, they put up good stats occasionally, but then after he leaves, it all goes to shit.

So he's had Johnny Manziel, RG three, that's Rex Grossman, the third. Also the other RG three, John Beck, Matt Shaw, Matt Ryan, who never won another MVP after Kyle Shanahan and then Jimmy Garoppolo. And then he's had like some backup guys that he's able to do. He's the best backup quarterback coach of all time. But if you just, if you just have his system, you'll be good. You'll be good. You'll be good for as long as he's there until he decides that it's time to take you

behind the shed. Yeah. Also shout out Chris Sims, who I listened to his show on Friday with our Internet Uncle Slash. What is he to me? Internet. No, he's Godfather to me. Dad to you.

He's my internet father. Chris Sims, it's it was very clear that Kyle Shanahan and the 49ers did do a good job of telling absolutely no one because I think Chris Sims was like, this is really fucked up. There were officials on my ankle and he didn't tell me that they were taking Trey Lance. Also the 49ers, I don't, how would you feel about this? You're Trey Lance. You get drafted number three overall.

You get a text from Jimmy G right away. You're feeling good. Then in the third round, the 49ers draft a different Trey. I don't know. That would kind of piss me off. Yeah. Trey power rankings. Yeah.

You got to be the only Trey drafted by your team. It would just suck if you had to figure out a whole new set of nicknames for yourself when you got into the NFL. I'm sure they like, they give you those when they haze you. Yes. But yeah, Chris Sims actually proved that Kyle Shanahan was right to not tell him. Yes. Because Kyle Shanahan was like, yeah, we're best friends.

We played football together at Texas. We have each other's initials tattooed on our calves. And I bet you if I tell him who I'm thinking about drafting, he'll probably go on his national media platform and say it, which to be fair to Chris Sims, that's kind of his job. His job. And then sure enough, that's exactly what happened. So it actually proved that Kyle Shanahan was right to lie to his best friend and everything

worked out perfectly. But if you're Chris Sims, I guess, you know what, he's going to he's never going to trust anybody ever again. No, Chris. You could tell it is broken into a million pieces. You could tell in his voice that it was broken. All right. So draft grade.

So I saw on Twitter, someone named Renee, I'm going to butcher this last name, Buggner. It's Buggner, Renee Buggner compiled these. So the combined 18 evaluations. So how it worked was essentially just what the 18 grades were and then combined all of them and gave each team a GPA. So and it has I'm just I'm just reporting it. The bears at number one, 3.99, which seems seems seems a little ridiculous. Wait, what was it 3.199 3.99.

So they do actual GPA grades, which as we discussed, he took everyone's grade. And then he put it 18 grades and then and then added all of them. OK. So and then the Texans got a 1.88 grade that that was the worst draft. The Texans and the Seahawks should just have gone past fail. Yeah. Well, the Texans incomplete the Texans. I think they kind of admitted that Deshaun Watson's not going to be their quarterback

when they drafted Davis Mills. Maybe we still don't know it was like it didn't have a first round because they'd never have first round picks. And then they took Davis Mills with their first pick being like we need a quarterback now. It was such a sad pick, though, because like nobody I think Davis Mills is a quarterback. He was the number one rated high school prospect when he went to college. Yes, big time. You had to ask any time you get somebody at Stanford, you have to ask the question if

they're too smart. You don't want, you know, you don't want free thinkers in the NFL. That was the. Or if they're Kevin Hogan. Yes. You have to ask that question. Are you Kevin? How do you spell your first name?

Because they all are the same guy. Right. In the Texan circumstance, it's like they kind of admitted that they need a new quarterback, but they didn't try to make any moves. Right. But I guess they couldn't make any moves. So it was just like the saddest draft pick of all time. Right.

Exactly. And so that was that was the range. A lot of a lot of consensus is saying the Browns, the Chargers, the Jets, the Dolphins, the Patriots all had very good drafts. The Lions who the Dan Campbell, Man Campbell just took, I think his first three picks were offensive line, defensive line, defensive line, then cornerback. And then he did take a wide receiver in the fourth, but then followed up with an inside linebacker.

Yes. So he knows like he is really going to get the kneecap eaters. Dan Talica, the behind the scenes phone calls that he was making to the players when he was drafting, they were the best because if you think John Gruden says the word man frequently, it is probably at least three or four times more frequent in Dan Campbell's vernacular. Yes. He just talks to the person like, man, you know, he says, he goes, man, we're pumped.

I gotta tell you, I am so pumped, man. Are you pumped? I'm pumped, man. Yeah. I'm pumped. Are you pumped to be here? GM goes over and just smashes his desk. He's, those type of guys always have to check everyone else's pump meter.

What's the pump level? Like, hey, are you pumped to be here? Jake, are you pumped right now? You better be pumped. So excited. You don't look, no, I didn't ask if you were excited. I asked if you were pumped. Yeah, I'm pumped.

Yeah. I'm pumped. Oh, shit. All right. We have to change that. So people don't hate Jake there for that one. But it's good that you're pumped. Yeah.

He is pumped. I'm pumped, man. I'm pumped that we're getting you with our pick, man. You're just, you're, you're going to pump this franchise up so much. You're rebuilding. And I, my favorite part actually about that entire phone call was when he put the owner of the team on the phone to talk. Yes.

And it's like, that's, what do you say to the owner of the team after they draft? I'm fucking pumped. Thank you. I'm pumped. My other favorite phone call was when the Cardinals drafted the guy from Tulsa, who I think might be my favorite guy in the draft, Xavin Collins, because the first thing Xavin Collins said to Steve Kym was, uh, I'm going to fucking kill everybody. Yes.

We're going to fucking kill people. We're going to get a ring that a show dog couldn't jump over. I don't know what that means, but I believe him now. And that dude is a, he's six, five, 260. And besides him, I've noticed that the Cardinals are kind of dedicated to rebuilding their franchise using short Kings. Yes. So Andy Isabella.

Well, you, I think it makes sense. You draft a quarterback that is short. It's kind of like how Tom Cruise will never be in a film with anyone taller than him. You can't have people taller than Kyler Murray. You need to make him feel like the biggest man in the room. And then Ron Dale Moore, that's the guy from Purdue, right? Yup. He's awesome.

Short King that squats like 700 pounds or whatever. He is awesome. It's partially that you don't want, you don't want Kyler to be shorter than all of his receiving options. Um, one or two if Larry's after, like Larry Fitzgerald's butt is taller than Kyler Murray. But I think it's also Cliff Kingsbury just wanting to look tall for all the pictures that he posts on Instagram. Yes.

He's like, look how big I am. Don't I look huge? I'm a big strong man. Yeah. Uh, the other quote we had was from line, this guy basically, uh, he Dan Campbell probably gave him an extension the minute he said this, but new Lions defensive tackle, Levi, I'm going to butcher his last name. Can you help me, uh, Jake on, on who's Zuracay said, I like fucking people up.

I like pushing them back two to three yards and making them feel like shit. That's a man. That right there's a man. That alone is the draft. The, um, I'm seriously rooting with every fiber of my body for the Detroit Lions to be a good football team under Dan Campbell. I want him to succeed. So because the dude's like, he's a content machine.

Yeah. Yeah. He's, was that, did I even come home? Was Zuracay? There we go. On was Zuracay. Um, the Bears took an offensive line, which I, so I'm ready to talk about, uh, the love that Ryan Pace is getting that is over.

That's too much. Ryan Pace did what he had to do to keep his job at this point. So it's like, Oh my God, look, he traded up for an offensive lineman in the second round that everyone thought was going to be a first rounder. No shit. He's got to win now. Because if he doesn't win now, he's fired and he doesn't give a fuck about next year's draft.

I had a moment of clarity over the weekend regarding my, my, uh, reigning on your parade on the draft on Thursday. There's that commercial. It's the Geico ants commercial. We have ants in our house. It's probably not Geico, but you know, the one, I know exactly what I'm talking about. The one lady is like, wow, this is certainly got a big house here. I hope you can keep it clean.

That's pretty much what I did to you. Where I was like, you got a great quarterback to be ashamed if his ribs broke again. It's tax guy. When someone signs like a hundred million dollar contract, you're like, but after agent fees and taxes, that's only like 40. Exactly. It's like, no, I'm, I'm still very, very pumped about Justin Fields. It's, uh, I think it tells you more about like bear fandom and the bears franchise that

I could absolutely say without a doubt, the happiest I've been in a very long time was because of a draft pick. Like that draft pick had me on cloud nine. I woke up with a smile on my face on Friday. I'm just like, I almost don't even want to take my precious little Justin Fields doll out of the box. Because the, the idea of what he could be is probably better than what, and he's got swag, dude.

Like that's not, think about it this way. The bears swaggiest quarterback since Jim McMahon, who did have undeniable swag was a guy whose main characteristic was just being a dickhead, Todd Collins, Jay Culler. Like he's, you know, like, and I love Jay, but his, his, the reason why everyone loves Jay is because he says whatever he wants. Justin Fields has swag. He has swag. You guys, I feel like it's kind of revisionist history though.

When you guys got Khalil Mack, there was a buzz and there was a feeling like, all right, we're destined for a championship now. Remember when I was in week one? That was the best half that I've been happy for. And then Aaron Rodgers shit down my throat. Khalil Mack was, he was the missing piece that was going to put you over the top. It's also how different it is. That's really what it comes down to is like Justin Fields is totally different than anything

the bears have ever had. And yeah, partially that is like the fact that the bears just historically have never had black quarterbacks, but like the, it's just the running ability, the passing ability, like a big time, a guy who as of, you know, in the, when we were watching the semifinals, it was a legit debate. Like he might become the number one drafts of quarterback than Zach Wilson, you know, he did a couple of fucking baseball throws against Troy and everyone was like, man, he's the best.

Well, no, it was the pro day. Zach Wilson's pro day that turned over that one. I'm excited. I know it's going to probably fail, but I'm, that's, that's why you got to enjoy, it reminds me of Hank. It reminds me of when Wisconsin beat Kentucky in Indianapolis. I said to you, I'm going to party my face off because I'll never be back here. You got to enjoy the moments when you have happiness knowing that you'll probably never

have that happiness again. And then they lost the Duke. So there you go. It's like a Lamborghini that you have in your garage that you're like afraid to take out. Yeah, I just want to look at it. I just want to fucking look at it. Take pictures of it.

Have your friends come over, talk about how cool it is. We have a new nickname alert, by the way. This is, this is such a sign of Dave Gettleman being like such a stick in the mud, but I kind of love him. Dave Gettleman, his entire career as a GM, so obviously Panthers and Giants never traded in the draft. He traded his first two picks back down, so he got more picks in return, one with the Bears.

And now his new nickname in the room was Trader Dave. That's it. You got in. Wait, didn't we just take Trader Dave out of the Splash Mountain ride? Oh, yeah. Wasn't that the one? Yeah. No.

Oh, fuck. What's the name? Sailor. No, no, it's Trader Sam. Maybe Trader Sam. Trader Sam. But it's, you know that you're like, it's basically Dave Gettleman has been doing missionary his entire life.

And one time he does reverse cowgirl and be like, Dave Gettleman, fuck's like a porn star. Doggy Dave. It's crazy. Yeah. So the Giants, they did all kinds of moves. I'm looking at who they picked up this year. I kind of like their draft.

Again, none of this matters. No, it doesn't matter at all. If you look at the Nate Sudfeld game, the impact that that game is going to have in the NFC beast for like years to come is actually kind of crazy. That's our Elijah Moore dog pissing thing. Yep. They're calling Nate Sudfeld out on the game in week 17 repercussions for their will definitely butterfly effect.

I wish we had Rick Riley. So I wish he was still alive because that would be a great lead into a Monday night football game in five years against, you know, the Washington football team and the Giants being like these two franchises, all because of one player. Did you see what, what Trevor Lawrence said about Jacksonville? No, this is nice because I like Duvall and I like Jags fans because they do stand up for their city because they get shit on a lot. You know, it's always been like, when are you going to move to London?

You put in a hotel tax or is that going to keep you around or you draft another shit? They get shit on a lot. Oh, you get an STD if you go in their pool, which is confirmed allegedly. My eyes have had herpes ever since. Yeah. So they were asking Trevor Lawrence, like, do you think that you'll be able to like maximize the impact of your brand playing in a small market? And he goes, well, actually, if you look at the stats by area, Jacksonville is one of

the largest cities in the United States. So he was, and he's like, I don't know what small market you're talking about. We're talking square miles. I like that. He's like busting out the electoral map. You know, when they show, they're like, look at all this, look at all this land out here. That's what Trevor Lawrence is doing. I actually, I, I like Trevor Lawrence in, in Jacksonville.

I like him working with Urban Meyer. I think I keep going back and forth and I think he, I don't like Urban Meyer, but I think Trevor Lawrence is going to be good enough to make Urban Myers NFL career appear successful in hindsight. The one thing I don't understand with the Jaguars draft is they, I, I read a story that they basically were in love with Kaderious Tony, who, which makes sense. Florida guy, wide receiver, like super speedster, an Urban Meyer, like a guy, Urban Meyer would know how to scheme and, and, and use well.

They loved him. And then the Giants took him at 20 and they took, uh, Travis ETN at 25. It's like, if you love them so much, running back is the one position you don't take in the first round. There's, obviously people can go back and forth. I think Najee Harris is going to be very good. I think ETN is going to be very good. Playoff Lenny's a Super Bowl champion.

Playoff Lenny's a Super Bowl champion. Yeah. Like it's, I don't know. It just feels like the running back position you can, you can usually find a guy who's 90% the abilities of a first round guy in the third and fourth. But did he play with Trevor Lawrence in college? Big Cat? That's true. Good point.

Never mind. You're right. You're right. It goes back to what we were saying on Friday. Sometimes it's good to just have one of your high draft picks, have a buddy waiting for him, just have him, he's got a friend waiting for him. He doesn't have to go through. He doesn't have to be lonely.

Yeah. Although, you know, Urban Meyers is going to be like Trevor, like I'm your friend. Yeah. We got to be friends. I can't, we're not, it's not like college anymore. We, we got to be friends first. I'm not like other coaches. I'm a cool coach.

Yeah. Like let's just say it's like a dangly earring and a necklace. The other, oh, I had, oh, here was a fun fact ready for this one. I still can't believe this. So the Bears took Virginia Tech running back, Khalil Herbert, her bear, her bear, if you want to go French on it. I do. And he, the fact was, so Khalil has 11 toes.

He has 11 toes. That's a crazy fact in its own. So he's, he's faster. He's faster. When he was at Kansas, he transferred from Kansas to Virginia Tech. Puka Williams was in the backfield. Puka Williams had an accident when he was growing up with a lawnmower. Puka Williams has a total of five toes.

So he had two running backs with a total of 16 toes. How do you have a running back that only has five toes? And then, and then in the same backfield with running back with 11 toes. Jesus Christ. That's just a great, that one. That, that, that's crazy. That draft got an A plus from Rex Ryan. Dude, 11 toes.

11. Well, is it not the five toe? Not five toes. Yeah. But the 11 toes. So is it an extra pinky toe? I think he had, I think it's like a fairly common thing where you have, I think he had six fingers too, but he got one removed.

Why would you get it taken off? I don't know. I don't know. You're probably not a freak. Probably can't make. Don't like make fun of you. Probably can't find good receiver gloves. Yeah.

Six on them. Yeah, that would absolutely be it. But yeah, 11 toes and five toes. So he's definitely better at cutting back. He's, he's, that's an advantage from the running back position. And I've always loved Virginia Tech. More. Everyone knows that.

Yeah, everyone knows it. More, more player for you to tackle, though. Yes. If you have an extra appendage. More players for more toes to get turf toe. Yeah. Oh, that's a problem. The most deadly.

That's why you gotta get Pocah-Williams. I would, I would half as likely to get turf toe. I would love that statistically. Yeah. And athletes for it. Mm hmm. All right. Other things, other draft notes.

Oh, I saw Ram's portrait of Roger Goodell. Yeah, I thought that was extremely classy. Yep. So we have one coming and then the Saints Chelsea. The Saints did a little trolling of the Rams and of Goodell the next day. They hung up a picture in the background of Secretariat where the picture of Goodell would have been, it would have been better if it was like the clown picture of Goodell. Yeah.

That they'd put up there. But Sean Payton is just, he's addicted to fucking with the league office. Yes, yes. You guys are 100% certain it was trolling, right? By the Rams. Yes, it has to be. Yes. Or it's the greatest suck up of all time.

Well, I think because I think it all goes back to the NSU championship. That's where it kind of makes sense, where it was the Rams and the Saints. Yeah. Because Goodell gave them the win. The Saints got fucked. Yeah. Interesting. So I actually, I've never seen that picture of Roger Goodell that they used for the painting.

It was offensive. It was just from a press conference. I found it. Oh, really? Yeah. The way he was like standing off the side, it looked like the portrait of George Washington in the White House. It looked like when Paulie put, no, it wasn't Paulie.

Who put Tony on his horse? Remember that? I don't remember that. I don't remember that. Are you talking about? You're asking the wrong person. Are they talking about when? Pusty.

They've got Billy Bats in the back of the car and they pretty much killed him. And they're like, look at this guy. He's looking this way. Goodell's looking the other way. And this dog's like, what do you want from this? Pio Mi. Remember Pio Mi? Yeah.

And they drew Tony and made him look like a colonial figure. It just, it looked like a portrait of Goodell that Roger Goodell would honestly want to put on his own currency. Yeah. Like if the NFL ever goes to like their own, if they get on their own like crypto. Yeah. He wants that on the picture of the coin. We also need to just mention like the Goodell's chair really was the lamest thing ever.

We just have to keep hammering it because I think people are just letting him. This is what happens when you have Greeny interviewing them. Like Greeny's first question should have been like, hey, dude, do you think you're fucking funny and cute? He's going to sell an NFT of the chair. Oh, second question. Remember when you said you were going to donate to charity and have someone sit next to you in your man cave and no one ever did?

Yes. Good point. And we were going to double the donation. Yeah. So I actually think that we should do the opposite and just keep talking about how awesome the chair was. And if we get enough people to fake talk about how great the chair was, he'll bring that fucking piece of shit out for every single week event for the next 30 years.

Yeah, but it's such a fan favorite. Oh, it's going to be in fucking 50 yard line at the Super Bowl. You can't you can't boo the chair. Oh, I'll boo the chair. No, I will boo the chair. I will give a standing ovation. I want to see that show up all the time for every single event that Roger Goodell ever does because he believes it's the coolest thing ever.

I'll stick a dynamite in that chair. Imagine if they were like traveling around to like Monday night football games and an AWL gave us the invite and we could we took it off the truck. Yeah, absolutely. I absolutely. I think it's kind of problematic that Roger Goodell was was sitting on the hide of a deceased animal on stage. True.

I thought maybe let's get that the Pita people. We can if we don't know us, they'll throw red panel over that. Yeah, yes. Do we do Jake? Do you have any facts or anything that you noted from the draft? Who's Mr. Elvin? I don't know. But it's a good question.

The draft like by the time you get to Saturday, it's like, all right, just let me know if any of these guys make the team. Ernie Adams is done. Poor one out for the king. This is the last draft. A linebacker from Houston went to the Buccaneers. OK, you guys said it to the quarterback. But like when Sam Elger went to the Colts, I was like, oh, yeah, right.

Maybe you'll be good. Right. First thing you know, Ian Book to the Saints. Oh, shit. Wow, he's kind of undersized. Yeah, we're very good. Wait, Ernie's done. Ernie's done.

This was his last draft. He said that as a patriot. Well, Belichick said also. Ernie Adams might have said this of the year from Belichick. Did you see it with his dog? I mean, do you also I have too late to give him a post mostly Oscar? Yeah, I mean, he looks great with his dog. That was or like whatever.

A belated Oscar, a belated. Kill his dog. No, belated Oscar. The Oscars are dead because they happen already. It's pre-lated for next year. True. Um, Belichick explaining his draft. So I don't know if you saw the story,

but he was asked a question, I think, on Thursday and he was very Belichick, like I can't explain to you how we grade players. And then I think I think he's getting a little nice in his old age. By the way, his explanation for how he grades players is did he play for Nick Saban? OK, he did. All right, draft him. But Belichick came back the next day and did a press conference and was like,

hey, I was a little I was a little short with you guys. Let me explain it. Why I can't explain it. Here's the explanation of why he can't explain it. All right, he said, not trying to be evasive about the grading and all that, but I would just say that we don't grade players like one, two, three, four, five. That's just not it's just not the way we do it. We use a combination of numbers, letters, colors, and these things all have

different meanings depending on when they would indicate about the players circumstance or situation or whatever it is involved with the player. So sometimes the color is going to override the number. Sometimes the letter is going to override the numbers or the colors and so forth. And so it's not, you know, this guy's an eighty five, this guy's an eighty three. It just doesn't work like that. There's a number of color, possibly a letter or letters that go with those players and those things could all, depending upon what they represent,

could all override something else that's a part of the grade. What the hell? He created. I think I think I think most that's bullshit. I just love the sentence. So sometimes the color is going to override the number. Sometimes the letters going to override the numbers or the colors and so forth. He definitely has invented his own language that him and the five people

in the building, they're the only ones that know how to speak. It is. We should get the guy who invented Dothraki. Yes. And show him. Belichick's grading this. Can you make sense of it? Belichickian is actually language now with all this shit that it's it's code. I just like the Navajo cold talkers and code talkers in World War Two. Yeah, like he's invented through the combination of all these different variables. There's probably like twenty six thousand different things that can affect

a single draft player's stock grade that they have. I just like the idea that someone could be so there's numbers and and letters. So someone's a draft player could be an A 100. Then their color is brown and you're like, no, I can't do it. It's crazy. So like with the rules that he's created, Belichick has essentially created quantum computing, but it's just about football players like if his if his brain, Matt, the stealing map, Patricia away from NASA,

is got to be like the one of the biggest all time. Like it moves out, might change history. And now we're just going to get even better at football in New England and worse at going to the moon. Was Patricia in the war room? Yeah, well, he made one of the picks because he's he kind of cleaned up, huh? Yeah, he made one of the hair cut and everything. Yeah, he's in the program.

Yeah, it was either that or it was Bella, that might be a punishment for the Patriots to make one of their assistants be the person that announces the picks. Yes, I actually found something cool that Warren Sharp tweeted this morning. It was years since drafting a quarterback in rounds one and two and 75 percent of the league has taken a quarterback in the first two rounds in the last seven years. The Seahawks haven't drafted one in 28 years

and the Saints haven't drafted one in 50 years. Whoa. Oh, that's crazy. Wild 50 years. The Saints have not drafted a quarterback in rounds one and two in 50 years. That is wild. You know what else is wild? So our friend Sam Schwartz and just sent this to me. The Jets drafted Hamza Nazreeldeen with pick 186.

The Bryce Brown trade is finally over after seven years. Oh, wow. So every single year since Bryce Brown was drafted, there has been a player drafted using one of the picks that was acquired during that trade that eventually got swapped. So like seven years, eight years, I guess, yeah, seven drafts. Now, the Bryce Brown trade tree is finally it's been filled. Perfect shot down.

I like that. That finally we can we can get a good conclusion. We can move on. We can grade it now. The Bryce Brown. Well, as soon as this player gets out there and yeah, we can grade it as soon as we figure out if this player is good or not. It looks like every player.

Carson Wentz was involved in it through the middle. So Kiko Alonso. The I mean, I mean, the blow job story is worth it. Trade value. Yeah. I'd say I'm going to give this one a filly. I think the Eagles won the Bryce Brown trade. Yes. All right. Any other draft notes again, the grading of the drafts.

I think everyone basically when you wake up on Sunday or Monday morning after the draft, you do the same thing that everyone else does in the NFL fans. You go and you look at the draft grades. You see your team's draft grade. If it's anything less than an A minus, you get mad at the person who's grading it and then you get mad at the GM and then you go and see your rivals draft grade.

And if it's anything higher than a B, you get mad at that. And then yeah. And then we just do the season and we find out how everyone was wrong. I think there was I always remember the Jaguars got an A plus draft grade like four years in a row. And this is pre this isn't like when they actually had a really good team a few years ago in the AC. I'm talking like it was like, I don't know, like 2009, 10, 11.

And it was just always terrible drafts, but they always got graded A plus. And there's always that Seahawks draft from 2012, where they got Russell Wilson and they picked up like some Bruce Irvin. Yeah. And Bleecher. I think Cam Chancellor, too, right? It might have been.

Yeah, they're like, they reach for these guys. Russell Wilson might not ever see the field grade F. And it was like the greatest draft of all time. Yeah, the best the best. Terms of value. At least in the history of that franchise. Yes. Yes. Oh, yeah.

The Seahawks also got a guy who runs a 4-3. So they're just going to have the fastest team ever. That's kind of the Raiders. It's a new Doug Baldwin Raiders move. The Raiders will reach for any player that is, you know, half a percent faster than the rest of his position class. Although I do think it might be Mike Mayock just doing a solid for all the scouting community and people that do the draft grades

because he used to be a part of that community. Right. And so he might just create these controversial picks just to give them some stuff to write about. Right. You know, throw them a little red meat every now and again. That's true. They've got the Ouija board that's connected to Al

Davis's spirit that just tells them draft a fast player draft. And draft. They've been drafting a shitload of of cornerbacks, too. And it's funny because that's that one position that we always say, like, you don't know if it's going to, if it works, you'll find out five years later. Right. And they've drafted defensive back, I think, every year

for like the last eight years. And there's always been the same criticism, which is you reach for this guy and the draft Raiders and analysis are always correct about the Raiders. Yes, they're just not going to forget. They're not going to stop trying. Right. They'll get away.

All right. So we had the Kentucky Derby as well. Hopefully you listen to our O.G. Randy Moss on Friday show, because we talked at length about the winning horse. Always interesting. You can tell when there's new listeners because there was still a good amount of people that were like, wait, you didn't have the real Randy Moss on this is bullshit.

And he was he was actually, I think, maybe the sixth guest on the show. So he and shout out to his son, because I remember it. We were when we when the Kentucky Derby was happening in 2016, when the show was like two months old and I tweeted out, like, does anyone know this Randy Moss? Because we want to have him on. And his son was like, that's my dad and he hooked us up and friendship ever since. But we did talk about Bob Baffert at length.

And we talked about the Tom Brady corollaries where they're going for their seventh title and then low and behold, 12 to one. I bet on I never win the Derby. It was I have to say this to everyone listening right now. If you've never won the Derby, I'd recommend doing it. It was a lot of fun. I remember never done it and then Saturday decided to do it. And I won 12 to one.

And it was way more fun than losing it. You'll always remember the name of that horse. Yeah, I still remember, you know, wait, spirit spirit. I remember mine, that bird. I'll never forget that name as long as I live. But yeah, in that bird, we also had in Rogers at the Derby. So he was he looks skinny. He looked like a goth magician

who will make your daughter's virginity disappear like a pickup artist. Yeah, he was he's rolling around. And what's his name's crew? Mystery, mystery, mystery, Neil Strauss. Yeah, Matador. He's he looks skinny. I think he's probably this is what happens when you get held captive. So I did have a very tough moment when he did his interview

and he was wearing a name tag. This had turd Ferguson and I obviously my initial reaction to anything Aaron Rogers does is that's lame. I fucking hate his guts. But it made me laugh. So I didn't tweet about it. And that's not it's it's the if you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all.

Did you notice the type of hat he was wearing? Yeah, it was a Derby hat. Get it? I bet he got a lot of mileage out of that one. He he is really, really unhappy. He does look skinny. He looks skinny. I don't think he's been eating. He has not been eating. They need to let him free.

Can you imagine that if Aaron Rogers actually went on a hunger strike? Yeah, to get trade. I actually think it would work. I do, too. He I I keep going back and forth because it does feel more serious than it ever has. And he's they've obviously had this issue like kind of bubbling for a while now. It does feel more significant than it ever has been. But I still don't like the Packers aren't going to trade him, right? Well, he's trying to get the GM fired now.

And also now the spots like there's not a lot of openings. Apparently, that's something that I mean, you hear about it happening a lot with players and coaches trying to get each other fired, but you don't hear about it with a general manager. So people got mad, especially Mike Florio, got real mad at Aaron Rodgers because you don't talk about another man's job. Correct. And a guy, how do you pronounce his name? Is it Gooden Kisk? Yeah, Gooden Kisk.

You can't fire that guy from being the general manager of the Packers. That guy just his name alone. No, he was Midwest German. He was born out of a cheese curd on a fish fry Friday. Like that. He that was he wasn't a natural spotted cow. Yeah, it wasn't a natural birth and butter. It was it was it was an egg that was hatched and that egg was a cheese curd.

So yeah, he's trying to get him fired, apparently. And that's making some people mad for talking about another man's job. But it really sounds like Matt LaFleur. He wants Aaron Rodgers back. And he's just Matt LaFleur is the one that I'm more worried about because he sounded more depressed than Aaron Rodgers recently. Yes, because he's like, I've let my mind finally go to that dark place where Aaron might not be our quarterback in September.

And I don't like thinking about I don't know what I'm going to do with myself. How about being Jordan Love in this situation when you like obviously Aaron Rodgers MVP. So clearly he's way better than Jordan Love, but you still drafted Jordan Love in the first round and everyone is pretending like the franchise will end if Aaron Rodgers retires. Yeah, that's got to suck. Well, plus you also know you've already burned one of your years

into the 16 year lifespan of Green Bay Packers quarterback. So it's like you just feel his biological clock is ticking right now. So he's only got 15 more years where he can contribute to the team. It's also just I mean, we always talk about like the guy who follows the guy. How about the guy who follows Farve and Rodgers? Yeah, that's got to suck. You have to be a Hall of Famer. You have to. Like you have to be.

How hilarious would it be, though, if the Packers just started winning based on defense and just running the football? Fuck that. Probably not that funny for you. But I do think Aaron Rodgers, I know you listen to the show. Know your big, big stoolie. Do a public hunger strike. Have a live cam on you.

Yeah, do a do a stream and prove that you're not going to eat anything until either they fire this guy or you get traded to whatever or die. Or are you guys? If you die, I hope heaven forbid. Here's here's what I'll say if if Aaron Rodgers dies on a hunger strike, trying to leave the Packers, I will. I'll do a moment of silence. OK, you'll do a hunger strike or two hours.

No, I'll do a moment of silence. One moment of silence, a moment of silence for Aaron Rodgers. There it is. I actually think it would work. And if anybody's got the if anybody is the type of personality to try doing like a Gandhi technique. Yeah, it's Aaron. A lot of people are saying that Aaron Rodgers doesn't have the balls to do it. No, I've heard that. I've heard people saying that he will.

He'll keep eating meals. No, they didn't necessarily say the balls. They just said the mental toughness or the intellectual. They said Aaron Rodgers is not intellectually curious enough. He's too dumb to try to hunger strike. He's too dumb to see. I tend to agree with those people, but I'd like to I'd like to be proven wrong. Yeah, without a doubt.

All right, let's do our Who's Back of the Week. We have Eddie George coming up. Awesome, awesome interview with Eddie George. Who's Back of the Week brought to you by our friends at Cash App, the stock market, Bitcoin, all these things are back. So invest with the Cash App. You can buy stocks, you can buy Bitcoin. It is super easy to use.

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That is our Who's Back of the Week Hank. I got a couple Who's Backs. The first one, Lamella Ball. OK. He came back, had some, he had a crazy full court pass on Friday night. He just had another one like two minutes ago. That might be better.

It was basically like a football throw, like 90 yards. Is Lamella making passing cool again? 90 feet, I guess. He's back. They're going to make a playoff run. He's definitely, I've been a Lamella Ball fan. One city? I've been a Lamella Ball fan on this show going back years

and years. You actually have. So I'm always rooting for him. He's fun to watch. Who's Back of the Week is Crowdfights. You wait. Can I just say one thing about Lamella Ball? The thing that is that ruined the Lamella Ball,

and I agree, he's fun to watch and he's very, very awesome. He should win Rookie of the Year, was that one video where he was just bricking threes from half court. Remember that? He was in like a sophomore. I know, and I used all my draft analysis on that one video. You know it's crazy. I don't blame myself.

It was definitely not my fault. It was whoever made that video. What's Steph Curry's lifetime percentage from three? Is it like 41, 42%? So that means that he bricks 60% of the shots he takes. Yeah, but these were bricks. I know, but I'm saying you could cut together a pretty sick highlight reel of Steph Curry bricking shots

and just call it Steph Curry sucks. Point four. But do you remember this video? Yeah, I remember it. It was like half court. That was like prime Lamella Ball. When it was coming after LeVar. That's how your marketing team.

That's how I did my draft analysis to him. So I was wrong. Hand up. Wait, Steph Curry is a higher 3-point percentage than his brother. Yeah, he's better. I mean, I can show you a highlight clip that'll prove it. Also speaking of Buzz City, that someone I saw a tweet

from Terry Rosario in 2011 talking about how hot Steph Curry's mom was. So that's always just funny when that gets back in the enchilon. I mean, he wasn't wrong. No, no. Crowdfights. Seems like a nice lady.

Andrew Ruiz, Jr. Chris Ariel. I don't know how his name is spelled Ariel. Aureola. They had a boxing match in, I think it was LA in the Coliseum. And there was a crowdfight. No security came over for like 20 minutes. It was basically just a full on. The guys were just getting smoked.

Nature's healing. People are back. This was crazier than any UFC fight I've seen. One guy was just taking, probably took like 35 body blows. Like hard punches. And there was just no security. Like it was one of those videos where you watch and you see, when you see a fight break out, you see a few punches

get thrown and then you're like, all right, it's going to get broken up. Someone's going to come. Right. It's just a quick little like tiff. This was three to five minutes of just like body blows, full headshots, everything. I think that's fine though at a boxing event.

Like if you go to a baseball game, you bring your glove with you. You might like play some catch in the concourse or whatever. If you go to a boxing event and a boxing match, breaks down the stands, there's just more bang for your buck. I'd say let that play out. And also, I think like COVID has brought a different perspective to security guards where they see people fighting each other. And they're like, fuck that, I'm not going to get involved in that.

Right. Why would I why would I go insert myself into two strangers breathing and and bleeding on each other? I'll just let them they're going to tire out eventually. Yeah. I fighting in like UFC needs more fighting in the stance. You had? Why not?

Yeah, why not? I feel like they have a good amount probably. I feel like they don't show it. They need to show it more. Yeah, they do. Also, I had this idea over the weekend. We were talking about how like Jake Paul, UFC, there's some beef going on there.

Why isn't Dana White just fight Jake Paul in MMA? If he lost, I think he'd have to give up all all the shares. Yeah. Yeah. That would be his reputation match. Yeah. Yeah, you can't do that if you're him. I would love to see it happen, but you can't do it. Or what else? That was it.

That was it. OK, I'm just more to two for who's who's back. Just two of them. OK, my who's back of the week is the snake pit, snake pits back. There was a golf tournament. Max Homo finished lower than we thought he was going to finish. Tough break for the homosexuals.

He was two strokes back going into the final round. Three strokes, two strokes back to ten strokes back. He all made a real or a moving day. Late rally finished six. So it was tough, but I'm sure he collected a nice paycheck. I have it. But the name of the core or the course had their finishing holes, 16, 17, 18, they just called him the snake pit. And the snake pit is such a cool thing to call anything.

Yeah, except an actual pit of snakes. Yes, but you can call anything a snake pit and it sounds fucking ferocious. And they showed it on television and it was just like a nice, lovely end of the round of golf. There was no like there was nothing menacing about it at all. But Jim Nance is like, he's wandering into the snake pit. We'll see if he can survive. Oh, man. It gets you going.

The snake pit at $5,500. That's a snake pit. It is a snake. That's a real snake pit. That's just where you go to like party on Saturday. So far. Day, no, no, on Sunday, Wednesday is Friday. Oh, that's right. Yeah. And then my other not car, not eating a bunch of carbs,

we found that out and it sucked. We was honestly disappointing when you show up to carbon and you're like, all right, where's the pizza? Where's the doughnuts that are like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Carburator. Yeah, funnel cakes, at least. Then who's back of the week is true love at the Arizona Diamondbacks game. I guess you're going to say J-Lo and fucking Ben Affleck and I want to jump across this table and beat your face.

Well, since you brought it up, yeah, Ben Affleck is back. The couple that brought us Geely is finally back. So pathetic from J-Lo. So pathetic. Doesn't he have an Oscar? What? Ben Affleck? Absolutely.

He's got an Oscar. Does he? He's a great director. Oh yeah. He got one for Goodwill Huntington. Yeah, Goodwill Huntington. No, I think he got one for Argro too. And also the...

I think Jiggly might have won. He won everything. The best movie of all time. The accountants. Accountants the worst movie ever, but it's such a good watch. I love that Ben Affleck just...if he's directing a movie, he'll put a scene in where he's just shirtless exercising. Yes.

And I think every time he does that, it's just a shot directly at J-Lo. Like, take me back. Although I do love...he's a man after your own heart in a way, big cat. You've seen all the pictures of him carrying the stacks of Dunkin' Donuts into his house for Donuts Saturdays. Yeah. No, but those weren't donuts. They were just coffee.

No, he's got donuts in the thing too. He does. He's a big ambassador for Donuts Saturday. Okay. And Dunkin' Donuts in general, which I respect because, you know, it doesn't get a lot of love outside of Boston. And it should. I feel like Dunkin' Donuts had its moment.

Yeah. It should still have its moment. It's far superior than... It's still the moment you're going. Than Crispacree? Than other places, yeah. Actually, I was going to say something about a different coffee place, but you know what? Corporate cat.

Not going to say it because we might advertise someday. Yeah. I was going to...not Dunkin' Donuts, but somewhere else. I'm trying to... I'm off now. Or what? I'm not off it because you don't know what I'm talking about. Me and the solar system?

I fucking hate... Bleep that out. Me too. Are we still advertising for Dunkeys? No, they should come back. They should. Yes. Much like J.Lo came back to Ben Affleck.

Ah, so pathetic. So pathetic. But true love. Did you see, by the way, A-Rod like lost a shitload of weight from December to right now? Yeah. And it was like, stay committed, do all this. And someone found out like they're like, or you could do the A-Rod diet and he went

to a gym that was literally $4,000 for like one month. It's like, okay, well, that too. Why can't everyone be like me? All right, I'm going to pull an audible. Jake, you can explain the Arizona Diet and Vaccine if you want to, but another who's back is fake butts. I have a theory. This is going to be the summer of fake butts.

The Roaring Twenties, there are a lot of people that I think... Who are you talking about? Got her not be Rachel Bush? Should I cop one? Nope. Maybe... Her vaccine thoughts aside. I think the whole squad should get fake asses because my theory is that a lot of people

got elective cosmetic surgery during this year that the world hit pause. And this summer, you're going to see a lot of fake asses that come out of nowhere. And they're the most funny thing to see in the wild. I saw, I think, five fake asses at one restaurant last weekend. Why were you looking PFT? Keep your eyes up here. Wow. Bulk.

Bulk. Serious. Serious. Bulk. Serious. Serious. And boom. Fucking asshole knocks over my man asses.

What type of drink was it? Manhattan. Can I? I thought you were doing whatever your drinks are. Oh, my novelties? Yeah. But not in every restaurant. I've actually gotten a lot of strange looks at fancy establishments being like, do you

have any like crazy novelty fish bowl cocktails? And they're like, sir, we already, you're already wearing sweatpants really pushing the limits of our dress code. I'll have to ask you to stop. Can I throw something out there because we're in the truss tree and no judging? I am terrible at judging fake asses and fake tits. I see a pair of fake tits. I'm like, look at those naturals.

Yep. And I'm always wrong. I can't. Like I remember the day when someone like was like, dude, Jenna Jamison, like, those are fake tits. I'm like, what? Are you serious? I'm really bad at it.

If milk comes out, then they're real. It's just, I can't, for some, maybe it's that, you know what, maybe I just don't judge. Maybe it's the heart wants what the heart wants, but if you show me a pair of very clearly fake tits, I will absolutely think they're real. I'm a hundred percent in that same boat with you. There have been people that like I've given a hug to and then later my friend is like, those tits are so faked or so hard. And I'd be like, I really could not tell.

Like my, my chest does not have that nerve. Yeah. I had to give him a major bonk. Yeah. So I wouldn't be able to tell you if there's a fake ass anyway. You know a fake ass. No. No.

I'm telling you right now. I do not. When I see it, I literally when I see an ass that's huge and it might be fake, I'm just thinking like, well, is she using the blue bands or the purple bands? I'm telling you, what is she doing? What's her squat? 20 years from now, we're going to look back at this era in the United States and be like, what the fuck was everyone thinking?

Just getting shit injected into their ass cheeks. Yeah. Really strange. But I think they're going to be back this summer. Just something to put in the tickler file. Keep an eye out. I won't be able to tell. All right.

My who's back soccer hooligans or whatever happened at Man United today. I love it. Save soccer. They invaded the pitch. They I think they were violent. I think some people got fucked up. Also loved it. Like few random guys who brought a ball with them just so they could kick it around.

They're taking PKs. Yeah. And then I just here's what I don't understand. I know troops explained it all super league bad idea. We get it. I agree with that. But if the Glazers sold another billionaire would buy the team and then we'd be in the same spot in like five years probably like I think their point is we'd rather have an

asshole who is from England than an asshole is from America. But that asshole from England would be like oh I like that would be that would be like saying for the Sonics like we want a guy from Seattle Howard Schultz. Oh how that worked out like eventually the bottom line will be the bottom line no matter where you're from or who you root for. If you look at history rich British assholes have done probably 50 times the damage the world that Americans have a very easy way to live your life. Your life is to understand that are people very rich people will do anything to stay

rich and get richer and they don't have like you think they might have a heart in them you might think they have like oh fandom no no no they don't give a fuck. They do not give a. I think it just comes down to the fact they don't like when American fucks up their sport they're like we really hate that I just gotta remind them I fucking glazers won a Super Bowl three months ago. It was very funny listening to to the people on it was at Sky Sports or whatever the like NBC Sports Network.

Talk about what was happening in like very hushed solemn tones because they had defiled the sanctity of old Trafford. Old Trafford. Yes. And she's been renovated like 75 times. Some of the cops that were there were just like letting him in because I think the cops also want big lasers to sell the team. Yes.

I saw one police officer walking across the pitch and he was just bleeding from one of his eyes. Yeah. But he was smiling. He was like this is fucking awesome. This is sick. Having a great time. And then my other who's back is Lou Dort.

So the the the Thunder lost 152 to 95 on Saturday night. That is I think that's the biggest margin of defeat ever. It's incredible when you actually look at the box score just how they didn't win a single quarter. They did. They were getting hot in the fourth. They lost twenty six twenty five in the fourth. But I freaked when I saw this because I was like oh no Lou Dort my king he didn't play.

I just want to remind everyone he didn't play. If he had played they probably would have won the game. The average is like 60. That's not even it. PFT. People were making that joke like oh Lou Dort you think Lou Dort. No. No.

I just put you in the torture chamber. They don't score 152 on Lou. I just said Lou Dort is a prolific score. Yeah. The game does. No but it's his defense. Yeah. His defense is what would stop them.

OK. He doesn't need to score for his team to win. Gotcha. He can just fucking lock him down. You can't you can't put a mathematical equation to explain the significance of Lou Dort on a basketball game. It is very funny though to look at the plus minus and like Sabonis for the Patriots was a plus forty nine.

Yeah. That's impressive. But seriously there is something about Dort. There's a lot about it. It doesn't exist on the stat sheet. Yeah. You can't write a computer program to tell you what love is. He is absolutely the best on ball defender.

He will lock you down. He'll put he Lou Dort is he's the best torture chamber. So don't anyone who's trying to tell you that the Thunder suck. They do but not because of Lou Dort. All right. Jake. Do you want to explain that Diamondbacks thing you can probably explain better than I could.

I'm just going to read through the thread. Yeah. Go for it. So this guy Buck army who has a hundred thousand plus on YouTube according to his bio said hey at D-backs my roommate's on a state six rows above the plate. We'll look to the cameraman a bit and then the D-backs refer him to Valley sports the network then now the D-back says we're curious. Let me take over real quick for you Jake.

Give like a little bit of background so fair. So this YouTuber his buddy went on a date at a Diamondbacks game and then he was like hey Diamondbacks can you put the camera on my friend. He's on his first date. I want to see how he's doing asking them to like put him on TV right so you check in on his buddy and they eventually like found him and it became like this big viral moment. But I also have a big stay woke on it like the fact that it was a famous YouTuber that was setting this up right in conjunction with three separate brands right at once.

It set off a lot of a lot of alarms for me. Yes agreed. But apparently they're going on a second date apparently they hit it off. Yeah it would be very funny like if it wasn't set up and the camera pan to them and he was just like getting a hand job from her. Yes. And the crowd. Jake did you have your own who's back.

Yeah. Eris Anderson. Verichal. What. Cavs. Yeah. This stopped me in my tracks. Yeah.

Is he going to see Brazil now. He plans to sign with the Cavs. I gotta see the last line you played. What. Yes. Yeah. Verichal is signing back with the Cavs a team he played 13 years for or something. I literally thought he stopped playing in like 2016.

He has not played since 2016 17 with the Warriors. Holy shit. Right. He did the double. Yeah. He did the double ring thing. He was like the guy was like he gets rings for both teams or whatever. Yeah.

That's right. And they had to vote on whether or not he got the ring or something because he left me the way. Fuck. That's incredible. I have no idea how Dan Gilbert runs his organization. Like is he just drunk all the time. Yeah.

It's a health problem. Oh that's right. Yeah. I didn't mean to make you feel bad. It's such a go. Yeah. Is he OK. Is he alive.

It would make more sense if he wasn't. Oh good. But the Cavs are good for like three of these moves a year where you just like are they is this a professional sports team. Yeah. No it's 10 games left. Is it a PR thing. Just to.

Yeah. Live through the past. Yeah. I don't know. How old is he. I should be like 28. And we just were wrong with 38 38. OK.

All right. That's nuts. Hey once a Cav always a Cav. Cav for life. Right. Yeah. And then PFT's boy Steve Kornacky is back. Oh yeah.

He's the only NBC analyst to pick the correct Derby winner. Oh he had him. Yeah. What was the name. Steve Kornacky. Medina spirit. Medina spirit. Thank you.

Yeah. I always remember Medina spirit. I'm sick of that guy. I mean it's crazy how much he looks like Ron. It's insane. It's a hatred. Every time I see him I'm like why is Ron on my TV. The hatred that Jeff DeLoe has for Steve Kornacky is unrivaled by anything I've ever seen.

Why. Just nerd on nerd crime. No he just hates that they. Nerds do hate other nerds. Yeah. Well he hates that they treat him like a freak which I understand it's like let's get this freak out here to talk about his freak numbers and go back to your basement when you're done freak.

But nerds definitely like have a feeling like there's only there's only enough room for one of us nerds. They don't like that. All right. Let's get to our interview. We've got Eddie George awesome interview. It's brought to you by our friends at Hello Fresh with Hello Fresh. You get fresh pre-measured ingredients and mouthwatering seasonal recipes delivered right

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not be disappointed. Here he is Eddie George. Okay we now welcome on a very special guest. It is Heisman Trophy winner four time pro bowler. But most importantly he is the head coach at Tennessee State now it is Eddie George. Let's start there. Are you used to people calling you coach yet because this is you just jumped right into the job and part of the job of being a coach is everyone around town calling you coach.

Are you are you ready for that are you cool with that. You know I'm cool with it but I'm not used to it yet. People like hey coach hey coach I'm like who's here you know let's coach. But I'm getting used to it it's it's really a tremendous honor to be a head coach for someone to look at me in this regard and to say hey you know I want you to take over my program there's a lot of trust involved in that one two often times you may not see something yourself somebody might see something in you that you don't see in yourself and after doing my due diligence on the opportunity doing some soul searching you know I had a chance

to talk to Dion a few other players a few other head coaches a few other businessmen about what this means what it entails what it involves you know can I do this put my whole mind body mind and spirit into this and 100 give 100% I got to came to the conclusion that I can I can do it you know and this is the next thing that's presented for me it's a great challenge a great opportunity but more importantly it's about impacting lives of young men of our student athletes and that's something that I've been doing my entire life you know it's around about whether it be my own sons whether it be talking to a group of kids doing my speaking engagements and so forth it's something that I know I

know the game of football I played it for practically my whole life and it brings me back full circle into the very love the very person that I love growing up and I made a profession out of but just in a completely different capacity so it's a wonderful opportunity you mentioned that you talked to Dion Sanders he's our co-worker here and he is the head coach at Jackson State recruiting we're head of recruiting there so we can't you can be I guess we'll see how this interview goes before we determine whether or not we want to work with you in any capacity on that front but I'm curious how that convo went with Dion because you guys played against each other I have to imagine did you probably ran Dion

over once or twice is what I'm getting at he wasn't exactly a hitter so how is that relationship now is he always like does he look exactly prime we've never hit I don't think I've ever read maybe in a pro bowl but we never hit you know so the only time I saw prime was when he was catching the interception I was trying to hit him and he was running the other way so that was it but of course you know prime is prime period you know I grew up a prime fan when he was at Florida State I remember playing at military school and we would go sneak and watch the games and they were playing against Clemson and I remember you know with sneak and watch that one clip when he's pointing to the sidelines telling him he's

going to run it back and I wanted Clemson to win so bad that day and he said he's going to run it back he's going on the back gets the ball runs it back for a touchdown and it was all over and I just remember him you know just growing up and a big fan of him so I'm not surprised that you know when prime took this opportunity took this position I reached out to him and I congratulated him I was like wow this is a huge deal for him not knowing that I was going to be the next guy to be offered the opportunity so prime is a trim a trendsetter he's always always has been he's always been about helping others especially young black men reach their fullest potential not just on the football field but also off the football field and that was some of the

similar things that that I'm aligned with as well and that's some of the things that I believe in and when I reached out to him and really got his unvarnished truth of what goes into this he was very honest up front with me he says it's not going to be easy you know it's a different way of doing business but if something is definitely you definitely can do you get the right people around you you will be the CEO of a business pretty much and that's how you're going to have to operate but you can be very successful on it except except against him that's what he was saying yeah so our listeners are going to be mad that we've gotten this far in the interview and we haven't mentioned the most important person in your circle of trust when it comes to you know jumping

into the coaching world it is our best friend Jeff Fisher so what yes what what maybe a story something that you've always thought of like this is how you should coach for from your time playing for coach Fisher that you're going to now bring into you know your guys at Tennessee State oh wow that is such a great question um Jeff Jeff I reached out to him and I was hoping that he would talk me off the ledge of this thing okay I was on the fence I was about you know 70 30 of not doing this okay and I said before I close the door on it before I give them a hard no and say hey this is not for me go find somebody else is passionate about it blah blah blah brand down on my reasoning um I called him on my way out to a golf tournament going I think I was going to

Florida play concession and I said hey I'm on a tarmac I'm by the leaf you know but this is what I got going on I've been offered listen to this ridiculous idea Jeff I got offered to be the head coach of Tennessee State University and with no coaching experience and I'm expecting him to be like yeah let that go just you know man go to go take off stay down there don't get involved instead you know how he is oh my god any that's amazing you will absolutely kill it and I've got everything laid out for you I've got my organizational sheets I've got practice sheets I've got a staff I've got a chief of staff he's going through the whole thing of how this can be successful and Jeff knows how to push my buttons because he was my coach you mean he knows how to get going right and by

the end of the conversation I went from 70 30 in terms of not doing it to be in all in at the end of a 30 minute conversation so you know Jeff has a way of presenting things and presenting things such a peaceful calm and collective way and you have you looking at something that's like that's half empty is half full he's optimistic God so I think my my I'll take bits and pieces from his style in terms of how he coaches he is not one to embarrass anybody or to re-rape anyone but he's he's definitely a player's coach and anybody that's played for Jeff can definitely say that that you know they're probably he's probably the best coach they've ever played for because of how he approaches players and how he deals with people in relationships very Zen guy at the end of the

conversation was he like and by the way if you're hiring I happen to know a guy me if you want to bring does he flow for you I had to talk to talk him into hey man listen you know if I'm gonna do this I'd like to do it with with you in some capacity I know how that looks for you I know that he was trying to get into college football coaching didn't have the opportunity to go to Tennessee or Auburn all of that but I think he's excited being a senior advisor in this capacity and just really helping me along the way put the rails down or the bricks down for this foundation of what we can do here at Tennessee State University that's very cool so when you're coaching are you gonna have a doghouse because I asked that question these people forget

that you you want a Heisman you were you know a first round pick you had an unbelievable career in the NFL but there was a point in time where you were in the doghouse probably the longest doghouse of all time for a year and a half at Ohio State because you fumbled twice your freshman year on the five yard line against Illinois in the same game and then you went to the doghouse for a year and a half is that right you you basically were sidelined for a year and a half how what does a doghouse feel like for a year and a half well the doghouse is cold it's dark there's no light it's unforgiving it's it's it feels like the world is closing in on you but I was molded by that I was I grind in that I had to I had to find a new belief and I had to find

my own light in the darkness of the doghouse so absolutely you got to have a doghouse for somebody to ask the question hey am I man enough to pursue this dream do I have the guts to continue to pursue and persist without exception you know so you without the doghouse you got to have a guy to go in there and really find out who he is and bring forth the best out of you so to me that's where I won the Heisman I made up in my mind that hey you know what this is not going to define me I could have left I could have went to a different school I could have jumped in the portal and tried to find the perfect situation or I can make the situation there at Ohio State perfect for me by attacking it by taking ownership of it by working out hard every day by showing up at eight o'clock

in the morning leaving at eight in the evening working on my weaknesses working on my strengths studying film doing anything and everything that will separate me from the rest of my competition that's what I was going to do and that's what I did so yes there will be a doghouse did you did coach John Cooper at Ohio State did he ever apologize for putting you in the doghouse because he's had to feel stupid after that where your sophomore year you have 42 attempts and then your junior year you have 276 attempts and it's like wait we could have probably used him last year a little bit that was maybe my mistake to keep him in the doghouse that long well well let's be clear you know at Ohio State you can't afford the fumble you can't afford to get hurt because

the next guy online is just as good as you I played with Robert Smith Raymond Harris Butler Benote Jeff Cotherin they were all upperclassmen so they all went to the NFL at some point in time so it was talented so they said listen we know we'll be having you you want to sit in here you want to sit back and watch learn how it's done watch these upperclassmen take steak because we're not gonna lose you're not I'm not gonna lose my job because you can't hold on to the football so it was about job security with John Cooper and I appreciate that so it you know it was I don't think he felt stupid behind it no I think it was just a talented backfielder to say hey this guy's got some time and let him grow and develop it to become the player that he

hopes to be that's humble but you were the best running back in that backfield but you won a Heisman trophy well yeah I'm not gonna say that yeah very humble of you I like that but who knows if you weren't in the doghouse for that long you might not have reached that point true it made you hungry right you weren't eating when you were out in the doghouse you're like Bain he's just molded by the doghouse exactly what you should do is as a motivational technique you should get a doghouse and put it on the sideline for your players but not for your running backs like for your defense every time they force a fumble you put that you put that guy in the doghouse and you come back to the sideline on the doghouse yeah you fill the doghouse up with the balls yeah I like

that I like that a lot yeah you know what I'm gonna take you up on it and now I gotta get I have to get a big doghouse to do that yeah you know anybody you know a good builder that can build a good looking doghouse in Tennessee and make it really yeah will Compton probably won't be doing anything next year you know what he might not know he's a friend of ours he's gonna be on a roster he will be on a roster that was a cheap shot he would actually be a great carpenter speaking of cheap shots maybe Taylor Luan yeah he's probably not gonna play next year he'll be suspended for a while we're just roasting our guys right now love it I'm curious I'm curious about uh about another guy that you played with for a long time um one of our favorite NFL players in the history of the

league on this show Lorenzo Neal best fullback best best blocking fullback in the history of the game oh yeah uh do you think he should be in the Hall of Fame I personally do I mean I don't know what the credentials or the criteria is for a fullback but the man has blocked for me Lydani and Tomlinson uh who's in the Hall of Fame Cory Dillon who's in the Hall of Fame Aja Morell um I think everybody that's that ran behind Lorenzo has had a breakout year okay and he would do things that most fullbacks would do he he's the type that well he is the perfect guy like if you're going out you know within a double a double date he will jump on the grenade free like he he'll take he'll take the the one that's not attractive and gladly I mean

just open like hey that's mine he's a fullback you go right fullback mentality fullback he will jump on the grenade he goes above and beyond the call of duty so what he would do he would like go through the line scrimmage so there's an isolation he has the middle lineback right but he's so talented he'll see a guy come off the tackle let's say is the three technique he'll chip the three technique right then he'll chip another guy the outside linebacker up to up to the uh the the middle linebacker flatten him and then go to the safety I mean he was just that near because he has a low center of gravity he can move he's very nimble in between space and he would do that consistently get three or four guys along the way and that's something you just can't coach

he willingly did that for what 13 14 years so yes in my mind yes the Lorenzo Neil should be in the NFL I agree are you gonna have a fullback of course there we go listen one thing you want one thing we are going to do here because we are going to run the football how well I don't know yet but we are going to run the football I love it that effect I would you got the eligibility left you look like a good fullback you you by the way you have do you you don't have eligibility left but I think you could still like I had a tweet the other probably a couple years ago because you're one of those guys who still has all the muscle how many yards could you get in an NFL Sunday right now if you're behind the best offensive line your current age oh my god the way my knees

feel I will probably get what's blocked for uh I would say if I got 25 carries I could get 25 yards no stop I don't believe that's not bad I mean that's only like two yards less than you could feel right now there's no way no way but you know what the league is not as physical as it used to be it's true you just saying 25 carries people listening right now are going to be like what is he talking about 25 carries no one carries the ball 25 times and that was a light day for you yeah it was it was anything less than 25 carries was a beautiful day yes yes I was used to 30 35 times a game sometimes 40 that's crazy we're going to get back to Eddie George in a second before we do I've got a great product here in my hands it's Raycon the Ray the Raycon earbuds they're great

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is it the heisman father and husband no you can't do that is it the heisman is it the four probles is it a fc champion what what would be the first thing i would say the heisman okay i would say that i mean that's that that that trophy is uh it's probably the most prestigious uh award that you can win i believe in all of sports uh because you have four years to try to get it done it takes one special year to do it and uh the competition is is so thick and it takes it takes it's a team award really because you have to be on the right team at the right time and have the right moments to attain it and there have been some awesome awesome players uh college football famers as well as NFL hall of famers that that trophy has eluded you know uh lekeberrick dickerson

he i think you know he should have probably wanted when he was an smu uh marshal falk you can see the same thing um but uh i was of course enough to win it so yeah i would definitely say the heisman okay curious to hear your yes so that's incorrect uh the answer should be and and this is going to be uh schooling some of our younger audience right now but the answer should be the first cover athlete on madden all time because that is iconic and i think people are like wait no way was yes in the 90s the the cover of madden was always madden himself and you were the very first player to be on the cover of madden and i remember that game so vividly and uh you know seeing the first player on it so i think that should be the answer that's something that people

should bring up more often that you know now we're what you're 20 of having cover you know athletes on the cover but you were number one you can only be one there's only one number one and you were it yes and you know what i'd never thought of that um as an accomplishment but now that you mentioned that you're absolutely correct that is an iconic game which i still play to this very day my son's do it um if you go back to that first game that i was on i mean everybody looks the exact same running backs look like lineman lineman look like corners and everybody moves the same yep so the graphics are like this now you have these this 3d world is so virtual it's cylindrical uh it's amazing to look at the graphics it looks so real uh but you

look at that game it's like yeah that's a video game yeah no you i really do do believe it like that's something that you know p there's been what 100 heisman winners there's only one guy who who was the first athlete on on one of the best video games yeah sports there's only 20 of them two right one one of one yeah i think you also were the inspiration for the truck stick weren't you uh i i may have been yeah i don't think there was a truck stick on the prior ones yeah i think my truck i think my truck rating might have been uh 98 yeah i believe uh my speed pissed me off though they pissed me off with the speed i think they had made it 87 oh you got caught all the time by by like defensive lineman well no in the game in the game in the game in the game in the game in the game

in the game in the game that happened you weren't you were a part of uh i think my favorite collision in the history of the nfl the one with ray lewis i see that highlight all the time you guys that was when you guys were both like at the peak of your careers both going downhill right at each other hit each other in the faces it was just like a face-to-face smash you fall out of bounds you get up and you just start barking at each other do you remember what you were screaming into his face and what he was screaming into your face right afterwards i said ray my god with beautiful eyes you have and the black paint under your eyes has really highlighted that much more you're a really lovely man yeah it was it was uh the heat of the battle um you know we've always had uh battles

like that we've had several collisions before that uh some he won some i won um and when we were in baltimore intense he played back then it was it was a war you know and i i truly mean that like it was a true battle it wasn't about the scoreboard it was about hitting you with bad intentions and if we could take you out of the game that was that was the victory period in the story you know that that's how it was and if you lost your life that day playing that team or one of us it was fine you were comfortable with that so um that was one of our last battles that was the last battle that i had ray in the tight uniform and um it was uh very emotional you know that day for me because i felt that that was my last year in the fight and i knew it was gonna be my last in a tight

uniform and i had remember i dislocated my shoulder uh in the second quarter and i thought it was done for the day and i was so pissed off i was like i'll be damned there's no way there's no way i'm going to miss this game because of uh of my shoulder i told him to strap this motherfucker up and let's go yes you know let's go after it and if i died today you know trying to beat the baltimore ravens is so big but i was not going to leave that field lose that game or the image of me and that tight uniform was not going to be a me walking to the locker room and holding my arm it was going to be leaving that that state in victorious and that's what it was and i would imagine your durability i mean you never miss the start in your uh you know career with the titans

oilers slash titans and and when we joke about like the carries i don't think people fully sometimes realize how crazy it was in the nfl uh you know 20 years ago you had a year not in 2000 when you had 400 plus carries which is just stupid to think about now um what was the closest you were though to missing a start were you like were there times where you're like oh man oh yeah oh god yeah there was a few times uh that year i had a uh separated ridge i had a sprained knee and a turf toe that i was fighting in 2000 but i had accumulated all those carries and i was i was the walking wounded and i there was it was a game played against uh the washington redskins on monday night and that's when i felt a pop in my foot and i could not walk

the next day wind up playing baltimore the next week and i'm like i don't know if i can play i there's there's no way for me to play um and uh i thought that i can practice all week long i sat down during practice i got to the game day and i said hey if i can walk i can i can play so i wanted to walk without my boot felt good strapped it up and went out there and let my way to getting over 100 yards um and that's how i went for the most of the year so i came very close to missing some games and shutting it down just to get healed other maybe i could have played a little bit longer and i did that so uh but i had no regrets yeah world three is crazy i would say that your career kind of disproves the existence of the madden curse because if anybody was going to get cursed

after that it would be you being the first one and you how many years did you play after that i played uh three more years yeah and that was technically the madden year that was a madden year like so 2001 was the cover but it was the 2000 season and you have an incredible season that year so yeah the madden curse is kind of bullshit if you just look at the first year i asked what i said i don't i don't look at it that way but other guys you know they've they've gone through i might now the following year i had my worst uh season i didn't rest for a thousand yards that was the only time i've never rest for a thousand yards in my my entire career um with the exception of dallas which was like a pit stop and a cup of coffee um so i really don't count that one but

but yeah that was the only time i ever missed the game or missed or missed a thousand yards the cowboy i like forget that you're on the cowboys that's when they do the weird uniforms like emet smith on the cardinals or randy moss on the titans yeah eddie george on the cowboys definitely feels weird it was very weird from the beginning and i remember looking in the mirror for a preseason game wearing the dallas star and the the white jersey the blue numbers the silver pants and i grew up in philadelphia right so i grew up hating dallas and i've always hated dallas but yet and still i'm like god what are you doing to me i'm a dallas cowboy like this is i can't embrace this this is disgusting and uh i didn't feel you know how you say players say you look good

you feel good you play good well i i felt none of that and i did not play well at all yeah so that's interesting me because i wonder if there are other players out there that grow up as diehard fans of super teams or like a specific team and then they join when they get to the NFL they get drafted by the rival growing up if there's like a small bit of them that looks into the mirror and it's like this doesn't this doesn't feel right you know because it's just human nature a little bit it is i mean especially when you've been with the organization for you know five six seven plus years eight plus years it's weird uh but you know look at tom brady he was with new england for nine what seven sixteen years and goes to Tampa bay and feels comfortable in that environment

comfortable and the the uh the uniform and locker room and coca time and wine with the super bowl so i guess it works with different people yeah for sure um can you just pretend that me and big cat are recruits i want to hear your pitch as a head coach you got to work on like living room presence is something that we hear about all the time so really you come into our living room i know we're probably outside your demographic as uh 35 36 37 year old white guys no absolutely not uh if you want to just like give us the pitch why should we go to tennessee state well first of all tennessee state the wonderful university has great tradition you're in a city of national tennessee which is divided the greatest city one of the greatest

cities in all the world one of the greatest destinations no state tax a ton fan base we are building something special here from the ground up something that that you can definitely be a part of you can go to alabama you can go to a house you can go to all the other schools um and and walk into that tradition but if you're going to be one of the pioneers of starting something fresh something new from the ground up come be a part of that can i give you a couple notes is that all right absolutely okay first of all you get you have to recruit the mom first you didn't say hi to mama so uh well i don't see my eyes looking at 235 it was it was a little rude to imply that we didn't have mothers you still have your shoes on what the hell take your shoes off

my mom brought out the sweet tea and you didn't even compliment her on a recipe it was Lipton but you didn't even say it tasted good uh and then the other thing you brought up state income taxes wink gotcha say no more that's it right especially when we're walking into this image name and likeness era where you can get paid for that and what better place can you tell me any other college city in america where you can take advantage of your name image and likeness from marketing side to get a chance to eat you know most of your money austin exactly thank you go ahead yeah awesome texas yeah yeah that's a good one that's a damn good one yeah but he didn't too yeah um i had one last question so uh you obviously

played with steven there who's a legend of the game what was it like like what was he like i feel like that's that's another guy that to the younger audience they don't remember watching him and they might not remember how awesome it was and how different it was to watch a guy like steven there play in in you know his peak um what was it like you know being in the huddle with him and watching him play every single sunday man steve god he was a uh a country boy at heart never liked to live never liked to work out but was always in shape like just one of those guys that was just naturally strong and strong will um did anything he would do anything for anybody give you the shirt off his back um would sacrifice his body and for the for the for the good of the

team and god i mean he just his his energy and his spirit in the huddle you knew you had a chance to win every single game no matter the situation um just to have the confidence i know this guy's gonna find a way to win the game he could be throwing he could maybe throw him for like 80 yards during the whole course of the game through four quarters playing having a piss poor game but if it comes down to that last minute drive or that last that one play he was going to find a way to win and you can see in his eyes he's just permeated throughout the team so had had him played with steve for most of my career all of my career was a tremendous honor you know he had a lack of of alluding defenders and finding ways to to extend plays was a quiet leader

but i tell you what the man was just a joy to be around off the field as well you know he had some wonderful times together at the games talking and and sharing a beer or two and telling stories he always wanted me to come down to his farm in mississippi with him and his brothers to have some moonshine and uh man listen you know it was it was it was good and i hate the fact that we can't share these times now together these stories together this is what it's all about after he finished playing the game and sharing the stories of what it was like playing um being our teammates and playing in these games in the wars that we had and what we're doing now in our lives um you feel kind of cheated of that but um steve was just an awesome awesome player and i would

advise any young kid to google steve air mcnear all corn state if you are want to see spectacular quarterback play he's like a man among men it was crazy watching yeah yeah one of the one of the best highlight uh tapes to watch is his is his college reel because you're right he was so much bigger but he was not only was he bigger and stronger he was more agile he was more nimble than these guys and he had a howitzer on his arm that year yeah he did was he um the year that he got mvp he was the co-mvp co-mvp with Peyton was he Peyton Manning you got to see him behind the scenes when he when he won that a little bit i would imagine was he was he excited about being co-mvp or was he like god damn it i wish i was the mvp he would he cried i mean he was excited uh we

saw saw what he went through to get to that point i'm talking about the years prior to that you know there was a playoff game where in our first playoff game against buffalo bilge you can look this up i think he flew for under a hundred yards the entire game didn't have the confidence to throw out a five yard out and to mature into the quarterback that he was in terms of uh calling plays the line of scrimmage checking into different plays manipulating defenses and safeties and corners and all of that with his you know looking them off i mean he he became a master of his craft and when he won the mvp award we stood up applauded him for about 10 minutes seemed like and uh he was truly overwhelmed by it truly overwhelmed so yeah he was very very faithful

and happy that hey you know what he didn't mind sharing with Peyton yeah but i'm glad he got his just do yeah oh i forgot one last last question is the heisman that you won is the is it still broken from the x-ray machine uh no they fixed that was fixed i should i should have kept that that because the middle finger on it was broken yeah it is a green story yeah the what was leguardia made you put it through the x-ray machine they maybe put it through the x-ray machine and i'm like dude what the hell i'm gonna hijack a plane with a trophy and i'm looking at the security guy he's looking at me and i'm like there's a stair down i'm like i'm not gonna put it in there so finally the s id told me said eddie just go ahead we'll deal with it on the other side so

i'll walk through the security uh belt or excuse the x-ray deal and i'm waiting on the other side for the trophy to come out and it's the the conveyor belt stops and i'm like okay and then he starts it again it stops it's not going anywhere it's not moving and then there's like this kind of a panic thing and then he looks in the x-ray machine he says all right push it it's stuck so then he reaches inside grabs it by the leg and he says all right put go ahead and move it forward so he pushes it forward doesn't move he's okay putting the reverse putting the reverse tries to unjam it doesn't do it and he's doing this for about five minutes trying to pull him back and forth he says okay let me get some vaseline and put it on top of the x-ray deal and

so we can pull off so after 10 minutes of this i am punching my butt cheeks like oh my god he's destroying my trophy what is he going to look like when he pulls it out so he finally pulls it out and the middle finger is like bent backwards or forward like this because it's like this yeah it's like the hand and i'm like okay so who's gonna pay for this are you so instead of getting the argument the heisman trust they sent me a new one uh and ironically i became it became a jeopardy question who was the only heisman trophy winner to ever break his trophy yeah and you didn't even break it you should have kept that though that's a tsa broken yeah i should have right i should have but i the heisman they have it they still have the same trophy i should i should try to get it that's

wisdom later on though because like as a as a 21 year old and you just have the perfect thing right you have the biggest moment of your life and then all of a sudden the next morning the the trophy breaks i just so you know we've we've had a few heisman trophy winners on here they take a lot better care of it now when joe burrow came into the studio after he won they had like got like security team in a huge case so i think that maybe that's another eddie george you know rule afterwards that they they're like you know what we're not going to let this trophy break going through security at leguardia it would have been very funny though it like a sports center commercial if dany wereful was behind you in line at leguardia as you're getting the trophy and you get stuck

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friends and i use that you clearly are all in need of uh hailey kane 24 a copywriter in los angeles says in a tiktok post posted on march 30th in the video she gestures to another video of a girl who is describing the type of people who get married at 20 years old or have millennial girl boss energy and who wonders what do we call this kind of person i never wondered what to call she just used a lot of different words that she already used yeah how about how about girl boss girl boss major girl boss energy yeah girl boss i should think i see girl boss energy like that's a girl boss hank has girl boss energy sometimes but i mean that's a compliment like it's actually pretty sweet to see you operate you're like your goals thanks yeah yeah i agree girl boss uh all

right so she says what are you okay no you don't look fine i meant it as a genuine compliment like girl boss is the best thing you can call somebody i don't know how i could take it any other way all right so she goes on i keep seeing videos like this miss kane says in her tiktok the word my friend is chuggy huh okay it's not quite basic which can describe someone who is a conformist or perhaps generic in their tastes and it's not quite uncool it's not embarrassing or even always negative chuggy pronounced chuggy can be used broadly to describe someone who is out of date or trying too hard this is the new york times writing this uh so the cap pft it's cap it's cap right on my binary system of cap no cap this is cap big time gas well as the definition

then the uh it's not oh so uh chuggy can be used broadly to describe someone who is out of date or trying too hard again yeah i have to say it new york times is writing this out of date trying too hard new york times i would never like even first of all it's not that it offends me like the description well it says no no no no it's not supposed to be mean no it's not even though it's very mean it's not mean at all it's the meanest non-mean word i i think the most chuggy thing you can do is to write an article about whether something is chuggy right exactly i agree uh all right it says and while a lot of chuggy things are associated with millennial women hank again the term can be applied i think it's not a millennial woman i'm just saying like girl

boss dude being a girl boss it has nothing to do with gender it's girl boss energy any gender it can give off girl boss what are some characteristics like i'm i'm a little bit confused just goals yeah just go vacationing hard when you vacation you vacation hard that's girl boss and you're also like you're a bad bitch that takes no prisoners okay okay you get a little bit angry at us when you're in your period all right and while a lot of chuggy things are associated with millennial women this is the meanest non-mean thing ever yeah the term can be applied to anyone of any gender in any age it's not just a way to describe people according to people who have embraced the word would you say even maybe like mid 30s white guys well we're gonna get there the following

are also chuggy these are a list of things that are true okay the hype house what is the hype house that's josh richard's in the slave oh no no no no no no no that's that right they're the opposite brian chicken fry told me it's netflix they got a netflix show hype house yes okay sway boys are their enemy thanks chicken fry golden goose sneakers yep anything associated with barstool whoa damn cap just fucking right at us Gucci belts with the large double g logo that's cool well why would you buy a Gucci belt and not get the Gucci belt that has the large double going to get it get a fucking Ferrari and be like you know what take that fucking horse off I don't need the hood ornament yeah get at it like you know what I'll buy the magnum condoms but you can

put them in the regular size box yeah I dude I wear Mercedes Benz fucking jumpsuit and I don't own a Benz uh all right uh so the Gucci belts with the large double g logo being really into sneaker culture that's another shot ray done poetry sorry and anything chevron I don't understand the gas part gas the gas if you get your gas from chevron you're chuggy bro it is kind of a try hard move when there's a shell station just down the street yeah yeah the um ray done put pottery by the way I looked it up it's uh it's actually fucking fire it's basically just pottery with just words on it so it's like cookies and like here's where you put your coffee beans and it's fucking cool because everything's just yeah okay I like that yeah it's off-white yeah kind of also but sneak

culture big cat you have yeah you have like the most shoes of like anyone I know right and work for barstool so yeah I'm chuggy and everyone knows I walk around with Gucci belts yeah you're chuggy king so it's just it's funny and I always get chevron so yeah obviously I wonder I wouldn't be caught dead out of Texas does chevron have like a shirt line I don't know about it this probably has nothing to do with the like gas oil magnet yeah no NASA just cool NASA just hype chevron no cap wait but this chevron isn't capitalized are we sure they're talking about the gas find it for then is there another proper noun I have a feeling that this last minute of part of my take when someone who knows what chevron is is listening to it we will never sound more out of touch than

we do but here's the thing that doesn't make us chuggy right because it we're not trying to know how hard then we would know already what we'll know if we were chuggy we would be like we like of course we know what chevron is just that'd be a try hard right we think I'm right you really what is it a line or stripe in the shape of a v or inverted v especially one on the sleeve of a uniform and indicating rank or length of service right that's that's just a chevron pattern so the the chevron logo has that v on oh yeah so chevron no but I think you might be right I think I don't think it's the gas or times ap style they would have capitalized that's C damn they're talking about the gas station right when ap yeah big fat mla bitches yeah you spell out the one through nine

you don't write the number that is so true good point all right so chevron not the gas but oh I think so I can see on a lot of you see chevrons on a lot of shirts and like soccer jerseys right they might just be like this the pattern on a shirt is chuggy damn which I kind of agree with that is chuggy okay um one of my friends this is a quote from miss kane by the way on her tiktok one of my friends said lasagna is chuggy who doesn't think lasagna is chuggy basic what was it the second layer of pasta and in cheese real like this is now becoming chuggy that is actually tried if you're actually breaking it down just how it works like if you just eat spaghetti that's normal but the minute you start adding extra cheese and extra layers of pasta it's like that is trying too

hard twice baked potato yeah yeah I all right when it comes to lasagna I think lasagna can be chuggy if you go to like a trendy restaurant and they're like this is our uh vegan lasagna where all the different layers are like shaved eggplant that's been baked and when they try to add ingredients that have no business around i think grandma's lasagna like imagine telling an old Italian grandmother that you're not going to eat her to lasagna because it's chuggy yeah just smack you in the throat with a spoon you're you're such a normie grandma yeah all right things that are decidedly unschuggy according to uh these people are thrifting making your own clothes handmade products this sucks you basically have to just work your ass off you have to you have to work

in a sweatshop to be unschuggy or you have to be like a a native american 400 years ago yeah Levi's jeans birkin stocks home decor not found a target uh looking good for yourself and not caring what other people think i that confidence ex exudes nonchuggyness i'm just gonna throw this out there whenever someone actively says i don't care what everyone thinks you care what people think absolutely 100 percent why would you say it and like yeah look at these these jeans don't really fit i look kind of frumpy in them i don't care what people think yeah you do i think that it is the peak of chuggyness to go to somebody's house look at their decorations and then like turn you you see a live laugh love poster on the wall and you're like where did you get that

they're like if they say anywhere but target then you're like okay it's cool as fuck yeah right but if that's a target no uh i'm out if you have one of those like old french martini posters on your wall yep you better fucking get that a walmart yeah it's all it's also funny because in like six months or whatever it's like those things that they're saying well like once other people think they're correct or like outdated and then target yeah home decor will actually become cool yeah yeah this is like you know ironic yeah that's essentially all internet culture is is hating things and then eventually loving it because you've convinced everyone else to hate well it's your group of friends all being on the same level and agreeing to hate certain things at certain times

and then you move on like a pack together and then when a pack reaches your former level of irony right you hate those people this is what happened in nickelback that was you right five years ago imagine dragons yes yeah the office i think it's like the only thing that not outweighs it whether it's like chuggy proof if you if you still watch it like it's still funny right objectively but there's like corny ass memes and shit about it but yeah it's still very good i have seen some uh some chuggy backlash to the office for the gifts and the memes i have seen that like it's a basic bitch yeah that's that's what i'm saying but if you watch it it's like objective i didn't i noticed they didn't say under the list of chuggy things uh coffee memes so i

think i'm good no you're good i think that one is like two levels behind on the irony you i did like you laughed the irony on it the person who called me out was like this is facebook mom status memes i was like oh really you so you just got that uh huh but okay so the person who's writing this i think we've all kind of been in in her shoes before where if you are online you just want to feel like you're smarter and better in a different way than somebody that you already don't like you want so she found people that she already doesn't like on tiktok and she's like i'm going to create an entire thing in my head so i can point at them be like this is why they're bad you're just desperately trying to get on the inside of the joke yes at all times but you can't

it's one of those things where like you can't be a writer for new york times and be like cool on tiktok correct or never gonna happen you can report on the trends all right so let's pick it up so all those things are said by gabby rassen 23 a software developer in los angeles who coined the term she said she started using the word back in 2013 while attending beverly hills high school this is what i've been telling you about california teenagers they fucking create words and then they just label you with them and they're like that means you're not cool uh but she wanted a way to describe people who were slightly off trend but she couldn't quite come up with the right term so she created her own it was a category that didn't exist she said yeah you made up a fucking word

there was a missing word that was on the edge of my tongue and nothing to describe it and chuggy came to me how it sounded fit the meaning also here there's a instagram account called chug life and it has a instagram chuggy instagram captions listed 20 fun on 21st birthdays i'm feeling 22 on 22nd birthdays thank you next life's a beach i did a thing after dying or cutting your hair i thought you meant i thought you meant dying like no that would be funny if you died i did a thing died dying is actually dying is the most chuggy thing because it dies quick update i died i'm dead you make all your friends like come to a party for you when you're not even there all right so the word spread among her classmates and camp friends and when her friends went off to college it took

off on their campuses everyone in our sorority knows the word chuggy isn't being a sorority kind of chuggy yes it absolutely is right i think everything can be chuggy yeah all right everything can be chuggy if somebody dislikes you enough to want to force you into a chuggy yeah right said abby seagull a producer and former student university of colorado buffalo uh her boulder who said she learned the phrase at a summer camp that miz rassen also attended wow but chuggy was in no way mainstream until miz kane posted her tiktok it you know what the coolest thing to do on the internet is is fucking find the root person for every single phrase this sounds awesome all right it quickly amassed hundreds of thousands of views inspiring explainers though chuggy has

slight negative connotations i'd say more than that people who use the term said they often identify identify as chuggy themselves oh this is like a i can make fun of it because i'm also yeah half chuggy well it's my mom was a chew yeah it's either that or like we're taking back the word it's our word yeah that is such a cop out you can't you can't call me chuggy anymore because you're not chuggy a bunch a bunch of california teenagers made a word to basically call everyone in the rest of the country lane losers but they're like but this one time i bought a throw pill from target so i can do this my listen my dad died okay so we have i have two the ultimate ghosting move i've got chuggy in my blood yeah my dad died in his last words were i did a thing

yeah um everyone can be chuggy said miss seagull everyone has something chuggy in their closet we didn't attend for it to be a mean thing some people have claimed that it is it's just a fun word we used as a group of friends that somehow resonated with a bunch of people i think my bullshit my biggest complaint all this is uh if you're going to invent a word and take credit for it have it be a better word the word itself is chuggy yeah like chuggy the word is fucking chuggy also just be mean about it you want to be mean about it we know you want to be mean about it don't fucking say like oh we can all be chuggy there's sugar coating it yeah yeah the women also don't claim to be the arbiters of the term it's also totally open to your

interpretation said miss kane that's such a girl boss i'll send something to our group chat and be like is this chuggy and some will say yes and some will say no michael codis 24 an actor in los angeles how's that going for you dude uh discovered the word on tiktok and it immediately resonated as a niche descriptor i was like oh my god this is the perfect word he said it is a certain subgroup of people that just don't quite get it i i'm actually i'm actually going to disagree michael i think we totally get it we like the things we like and if they're lame we don't fucking care mountain chug yeah what the fuck yeah that guy was mean there's that guy had some girl boss energy this guy uh he this guy's very much still in search of his own identity

he's a 24 year old aspiring actor in los angeles yeah but the only thing that makes him be able to fall asleep at night is to be able to laugh in his head and be like did you see that that mom on facebook from columbus ohio what a chew yeah did you what yeah did you see like the family i went by in the park and their kids weren't wearing levis yeah and they had a gucci stroller like i can't imagine being like sinking myself to that level at the end of the day it's just about people wanting to feel like they're superior to somebody because they have a label for their chew all right alex lugger they have to like are they trying to like make people brand themselves or like carry papers i don't know always identify i don't know all right this one this guy doesn't really fit in but i

love it alex lugger 32 a boat maker in springfield missouri that that doesn't fit the the teenager from beverly hills high school and the actor 24 year actor in uh los angeles said that she self identifies as a bit chuggy she also i mean i would think living in missouri makes you you can't be a bitch it's like being pregnant you're either pregnant or you're not right that's the thing they're doing to you alex you don't understand just the fact that you live in missouri means that the coast you know the la people think you're a chew yeah and they're making you what they're doing is they're making you hate your own culture correct correct she also learned about the word through tiktok we were basic in our 20s and now we're chuggy in our 30s oh i like that that's actually

i like that yeah yeah if you can't handle me at my most basic do you can't or no what if you can't if you if you don't love me at my basic you don't deserve to hate me at my chew so what happens in your 40s i think you die you just die yeah you die chuggy is just the latest in a long line of niche uh identifiers that have gained traction on the internet where people relentlessly categorize high highly specific archetypes uh in starter pack memes and videos it's no coincidence coincidence that chuggy gained traction on tiktok a platform that is function as an escape from instagram's once dominant aesthetic which is the pinnacle of chuggy oh fuck live fast died basic and leave a chuggy looking corpse damn instagram said instagram is

the chuggest kelly right and experimental socio linguist and phd candidate the university of michigan already can tell she's a chug who studies language said that with the rise of social media we see this is where new york times like they just were writing they're like hey let's write about this stupid word that tiktok made up and now she's got a fucking interview a phd person come on i think what we're all dancing around here a little bit is like they're just trying to think of different ways to describe salt bay and they finally came up with a label form congratulations all right i'm skipping her uh uh let's see let's see oh she says a lot of shit uh and for any millennials worried about being behind the trends that's us miss kane said not to worry i think

millennials have noticed that some things we use to consider chuggy are coming back in style and aren't chuggy anymore she said when i was first introduced to the word in 2015 low rise genes were chuggy now six years later low rise genes are back in style and i don't think they're chuggy anymore that's a great way to end this piece that like you know every everyone gets a second shot when when they're labeled with chuggy and nature is healing like the cyclical nature of the chug we need one person that's in charge of determining where the chuggy line is drawn at any given point like who's the most millennial ass southern calf ryan rocilla ryan rocilla the chuggy god he's definitely millennial but yeah like whatever ryan whatever ryan happens to be

into at that time that is now chuggy yeah that's true so just weightlifting as chuggy weightlifting is chuggy now i physical yeah keeping your body in good physical health kind of a try hard move would you say this we have a lot of chug on this podcast yeah i'd say it's chug i would chug forward yeah we have a we have a way too much chug we're overflowing with chug i wouldn't want to be anything but chug honestly like it basically says that you kind of know what's cool but you're laid on everything you know what and i'm cool with that definition we literally anything associated with barstool sport true literally definition well pmt isn't really part of barstool true the differences what you just said and described i think you might be so chuggy that you're not chuggy really

yeah self-awareness of the chug you've achieved the singularity uh where you know how like computers one day will achieve like oneness with the human brain yeah that's what you've just done with the chug you you might have just killed chug yeah you're right i've already killed chug i i do think that uh target has very affordable home decor so if you're decorating a dorm suite or one of your first apartments out of college you can't go wrong with their posters it's also uh when you really break it down what they're doing is they're basically just being like poor people poor people are gross yeah it's like ew ew ew you got your fucking couch from target it's a million ways to be like oh that uh that like cast iron uh tree oak tree that you hang on your wall that says nothing is important to

me as family in my home uh the fact that you paid under 500 for that means that you're worst nine we've laughed love could you imagine being poor fuck that um all right that's our show we got an awesome interview coming on wednesday uh yeah get excited for that and then we got some stuff coming on friday chuggy a show well yeah that's right we have a very chuggy guest on wednesday very chuggy guest you guys will love it all right uh numbers 40 18 eight 99 do we have a 69 ball in there no but we'll make one that's fine 69 is actually a chuggy number 42 so close jackie robinson dead knock off studios first timer you want to do animal fax shake uh you got it i saw jackie robinson i saw a doge dog today we got i haven't you been seeing the doge i've seen it a couple

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