Pardon My Take - Eric Mangini + NFL Divisional Round Recap

Episode Date: January 14, 2019

Fastest 2 minutes for the NFL Divisional Round (2:29 - 6:17). Recapping each game, the Eagles ran out of gas, the Patriots kicked the shit out of the Chargers, Jared Goff has wheels and Patrick Mahomes is incredible, even if he points for first downs too much (6:17 - 31:30). Stat of the Day and Who's back of the week including PFT and Big Cat watching the Game of Thrones preview even though they don't watch Game of Thrones (31:30 - 52:05). Coach Eric Mangini joins the show to talk about Divisional Round, stopping Patrick Mahomes, how teams can get overhyped for the playoffs, and what he learned as a young NFL Coach that other young coaches need to watch out for (52:05 - 76:57). Segments include way to stay relevant baseball for Kyler Murray, Mike Greenberg's Dumb Rules, and Hank has an AMAZING Drunk Idea that will make us insanely rich. You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, ad-free, on Amazon Music. On today's Pardon My Take, we recap the divisional round of the NFL playoffs. We have Eric Mangini, former coach of the Browns and the Jets, talking about the Patriots, Patrick Mahomes, what it's like to be a young coach in the NFL, some fun stuff with him. We also have Fastest Two Minutes, and Hank's got a drunk idea, so everyone get ready before we get to all of that though.

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You're not an award-winning listener unless you do just downloading. Okay, let's go. Welcome to the part of my take, presented by C-Geek Today is Monday, January 14th. NFL Divisional Round. We starred in Snowy Arrowhead, where Frosty the Reed Man was a jolly happy soul, with a walrus stash and a but on fleek and a utility belt to support his roles. Davey and Williams H. Macy shamelessly carved up the Colt's defense and left a red streak across the field like he had put them in a wood chipper.

They are starting to question Adam Vinitieri's accuracy as he was only able to complete a single doink on a crucial second quarter field goal try. Don Trowell Tinman lacked heart, and Andrew Luck was reminded we're not in Indianapolis anymore, Toto. We're in Kansas City. Let's finish with a post game from our friend Patrick Mahomes. Holy buckets, that was an old timer. This Arrowhead ground was ear-splitting loud, and that's the way that we like it.

I gotta take my hat off all the way as a kind gesture of politeness to Captain Andrew Luck. He might be a rebel soldier, but liberal college professor Patty Mahomes, the pacifist, was able to pick apart and destroy his arguments with reason. I actually recorded a little chat with Andrew during our post game handshake. Well, good game, Patrick, you're true about the virtual game, and a credit to your family. Thanks Andrew, big time Samzies for meeting you. Sorry to send you packing? No worries, I've got a long list of off-season reading I can stick my teeth in too.

Okay, boom back to you! Thanks Patrick, Chief 31, Colts 13. Whop, whop, whop, whop, whop, whop, whop, whop, whop, whop, whop, whop, whop, whop, whop, whop, whop, whop, whop, whop, whop, whop, whop, whop, whop, whop, whop, whop, whop, to the Colosseum we go, where BJ Anderson was sucking up all the yards as Jared Turnier Head and Gough had the Cowboys by the balls. Light and Vanderash was more like the milk fodder than the wolf fodder because he spent all game on his back getting run over by Curly's.

My neck, my deck, Lyle Collins with the sack. The game came down to a key third down in the fourth quarter and the Cowboys' closer Jeff Heathcliff's locum could have come through. Noted Cowboys fan LeBron James was seen in the Gramps Lockwell post-game chasing it up with his man purse. Who says LA doesn't have any real fans? I'm sorry Cowboys 22. Sheesh.

In Foxborough where the San Diego Super Targers squared off with the New England Patriots in what would surely be a classic. Boom, did you see the game? The Patriots rode their little Sony as Michelle Rainbow Dash to 129 yards. Oedipus Rex Burkhead once again was a real motherfucker for the opposing defense. Actually, it's dad kisser when we're talking about the Patriots, boom. Julian Ed Ed and Edelman was extremely animated with nine catches in 151 yards. I gotta watch that show someday.

Now it's your turn to cry San Diego as Philip Crimea Rivers couldn't find Justin Timberlake Jackson in the end zone. Stop me if you heard this before but Carmelo Anthony Lynn choked in the playoffs as Gus Sean Bradley's defense got dunked on all game long. Patriots 41 San Diego Super Targers 28. We finish in the big easy where Alshon Jeffrey Bezos lost his chance at a ring and the Saints are still alive girl. Michael Thomas Jefferson said it be nine in receiver and led the Saints to four scores

and 20 points proving that there is nothing to fear but fear itself. Also a slant route across the middle field. Although Nick Folsom prison blues will Johnny Cash in this offseason this game left him so lonesome he could cry as the once macro ballast quarterback was actually playing with a small wood. When though that is don't let the final score distract you from the fact that the Golden Tate Warriors blew a 14 nothing lead. Kick him off the tour dog.

The Eagles aren't going home happy. Saints 20. Eagles 14. All right NFL divisional round has wrapped up the first and second seeds are in your championship games. The committee got it right. They got it dead on. Well no I still think Georgia Georgia could have done something and you know they could

give the Patriots a run for their money. So it was every home team held serve. We have I think before we get to the games I think we have the best final for like we were talking about what the you know what we can get in the Super Bowl. There's no bad match. Yes it's all good. But the word is the worst matchup we could think of. Saints Chiefs.

That's awesome. You can either have Rams Chiefs which is the best game of the season. Saints Patriots which would be like two legends of the game. You just said you know Rams Chiefs or Saints Chiefs. OK. That would be great. Yeah very awesome. Right.

So the best offense is like in the last 10 years of the NFL. No matter what it will it will be a great Super Bowl and a great championship Sunday. And we have to start with the Eagles and Saints will go through every single game the Eagles and Saints. Holy shit the Eagles. I thought they were going to do it again for the first quarter and a half and then they just disappeared. It was like they I mean they had a bunch of guys get injured but we've said it a million

times we'll say it again. Different team in the dome. Also injuries aren't excuses. No every team has injuries especially if you call yourself Alshon best hands in the league a Jeffrey and let one go right through your hands which robbed everyone from a little more Nick Foles magic and essentially now we have to see like Nick Foles done in Philadelphia right. Yeah he's got to be done.

I actually have a theory about what's going to happen. OK. I think that I think Belichick's going to grab Foles really if for nothing else just so that he can like stash him in beret him every day being like you son of a bitch you beat me in the Super Bowl or actually you don't be great. If Nick Foles goes to New England Tom Brady retires after winning the Super Bowl this year I haven't forbid and then Nick Foles wins another Super Bowl in New England and goes into the Hall of Fame as a New England coach the Eagles.

Yes. The I feel like Nick Foles is destined to end up on a team like I don't know the Jaguars or maybe the Broncos. He feels like a Broncos quarterback up and down and then he's just not going to be that good. And I was like what but he won a Super Bowl exactly just gonna Nick Foles and Joe Flacco you can get a Super Bowl champion out there on the free agency market. You absolutely can.

You're not gonna be great. I think the one thing that was confirmed today is that Bounty's work. Yes. Sean Payton's big glass case of $1 bills and Lombardi knockoff trophies which was the wrong amount which was the wrong amount because it didn't account for taxes and no the by week sports. You don't get paid for the by week. Yes.

Sports tax man. But yes. It doesn't matter. It covers all all sides of the penis spectrum for quarterbacks. It works against Brett Favre and it works against Nick Foles. Yes. And we had Michael Thomas who's unbelievable. Really I if you're an Eagles fan and I don't want to I'm not doing this to you know rub

so I actually had the Eagles money line so I was rooting for the Eagles in this game. That was maybe the most frustrating way to lose not only because of the Alshon Jeffrey passed right through his hands but it felt like that game just came down to about a hundred third downs where someone was wide open in the middle of the field and Drew Brees just picked you apart. You know what really must piss a lot of people off including myself is that Taysom Hill is like the best fullback in the league and he's not even a fullback and he's going to be a good quarterback.

Like I am convinced now that Sean Payton will have the next Drew Brees and Taysom Hill because he had that one throw that it ended up coming back that touchdown where we all thought it was Drew Brees because he threw Taysom Hill's throwing 50 yard bombs. Yeah. It's not fair. And you can't you can't tackle within within one yard of the line of scrimmage. Yeah. You need like four guys to bring him down if you can.

And it also felt like it was one of those games where the Eagles like we said came out punch him in the mouth real quick. I want to back up. Yeah. He's a Mormon. Right. I don't know if he is or if he is. He is.

He wants to be what you don't go to BYU for kicks. There's a couple. You don't go there. There's a couple guys to have a good time. Yeah. No. Jimmy McMahon. Are Mormons allowed to play on Sundays like technically because I remember growing up.

He is playing on Sunday. So he's bad Mormon. So I would assume so or he's not a Mormon at all. Hmm. Interesting. Either way that game I feel I came down to that fake punt. Yes. The Eagles were ready to take that game all the momentum and then Sean Payton which I

love because this is now like the playoffs. This is the season of offense and it's also the season of coaches taking a lot of risks. Some good some bad. We'll get to the Sean McVeigh risk that made no sense. But it feels like coaches are finally getting to a point. Even Andy Reed's going forward on fourth down. Yeah. Like guys are saying hey maybe we shouldn't just punt the ball every time that we get

to fourth and short. There was another big momentum shifter in the first half when there was a penalty holding penalty that the I think the Eagles accepted and they should have declined it. Yes. And if they had that was the point was that on the point was on the point I believe. Yes. Yes. Yeah.

It was something that came up. Yeah. You got it. That was a boneheaded play by Peterson. Bonehead decision on his part. But yeah. But I still think like the magic ran out in the second half no matter what like you can cover up.

You can go through like seven or eight guys in your secondary. Oh man. Yeah. You can like put a bandaid on stuff. But eventually it's like yeah you got like bad players that are playing. Yeah. It turns out going after the Eagles secondary earlier than the fourth quarter is a good strategy in the playoffs.

Very, very good strategy. Interesting. All right. So wait. Jason Hill is a Mormon by the way. He is. Bad Mormon. He's a bad Mormon.

I think you can play on Sunday so. Really. Yeah. They have like every time there's like a new like head of the Mormon church they change the rules. Like sometimes you can drink caffeine. Hmm. Sometimes you can't.

Yeah. Very confusing. This is the fountain. Not my Mormon church. Hmm. Disgusting. All right. So next up we have the Chargers Patriots.

Hmm. PFT is in a suit. I'm wearing a suit. I'm feeling good. It's like. You look great. Yeah. You look unbelievable.

You look good. Feel good. Feel good. Podcast good. So to back up we last Monday we had a bet between PFT and Hank if the Patriots lost Hank was going to have to shave his beard which is actually like he was risking it all. Hmm. He was risking his entire life.

It was worse than a pinky. Hank let me ask me with a half a pinky versus Hank without a beard. Oh no question. I would definitely do the half a pinky. But Hank. Many people say I actually look better without my beard. Yeah. A lot of people say that Hank.

Your mom? Would you have just avoided mirrors for the rest of the month? No. I would have loved it. I actually was looking forward to it. No you weren't. You can still do it then. Yeah I might.

No one's stopping you. You know how I know you weren't? Because someone asked after like will you ever shave again. You're like fuck no. Never again. I will die with this beard. No. I feel good wearing a suit.

Like people look at me they're like this guy has a job. So it's not really. If the chargers lose PFT has to wear a full suit with shoes. He's got to put on the wingtip shoes. You got to put it all together for the rest of the month. Including Saturday's. The shoes were not part of. I think it's.

I think it's partisan. I don't care about the shoes I said. I'm fly. I'm like Justin Timberlake. Back in the sneakers. The shirt and tie is important. You got to wear the shirt and tie every day. And a suit coat.

And on Saturday's. And on Saturday's. PFT was almost instantly trying to get out of this bet for doing it every day. He's like what Saturday's I don't have to wear it. Yeah you do. I wear a suit every day for the for the rest of the month. It's either a suit or my birthday suit. If I'm not wearing a suit I'm nude.

That's my promise to you. So I also just want to point out I'm not going to knock on your suks. Thank you. You think you look great but I noticed you don't have an American flag pin. Do you hate our country. Yes. You need to get some pins. You need to get big into pins.

I'll become a lapel guy. Get your flares. I actually I overreacted to the suit thing. I bought like four new suits today just online with like ridiculous designs and stuff. So this is actually going to end up costing me a shitload of money. It also is funny because you're going to do the thing where you're going to say it's actually not that bad but deep down. I feel good right now.

You're a sweatpants guy. Yes I am. You are sweatpants on the one show that we ever had on national television. Yes. You are a sweatpants guy through and through. Multiple pairs of sweatpants. So you you're going to be miserable. Yeah I'm.

So don't try to say that you do look good. Right now I feel good too. Like I actually feel like there's no say. Like you dress for the job that you want so I guess I'm I want to be like an investment banker. Yeah. Pretty cool. You can kind of you can kind of like reflect on this.

You start going on when you go on the train tomorrow make sure you bring a newspaper. Oh I'm great. People know you might be doing a trade maybe wheeling and dealing you don't know what you're going to get. Yeah I like to get some ink under my fingers. I'm going to I'm going to rock a briefcase too. You can microdice as well. Yeah I'll microdice.

I might even do the thing where I handcuffed the briefcase to myself. That guy if you see it. Little thing in your ear. Yeah you see a dude walk onto a train with a briefcase handcuffed. Actually that might be a see something say something type shit. I'll probably get arrested once or twice. You can kind of talk about this reflectively now but there truly is no better feeling than waking up during jumpsuit January and just knowing that you're going to put on sweat

pants. Nah I never really liked it because. Even on the weekends. I never liked jumpsuit January because it felt like you guys were appropriating my culture which is wearing sweat pants all the time. So like my my culture is not your costume but you guys do you I'm sure I'm sure you like it. I'm just happy that you finally are wearing a suit because this is actually for for people

who have listened to the show since the beginning this is actually a bet that you just completely uh squirmed out of and didn't say sorry for didn't say sorry for. So finally we have you a suit in January and I still can't believe you bet against the Patriots in well let's bring it all full circle to the game. You bet against Tom Brady and Bill Belichick in Fox and yes Hank didn't give me any points but I feel like the odds like I feel like the punishments kind of took the place of yeah there's nothing worse than Hank yeah exactly so I was fine going straight up any man I would not wish it on my worst enemy to have Hank's face and have to shave it.

No oh my god. I would just do it anyway. Dear God. Go yeah go for it. I dare you. Really prove PFT wrong. Double dog dare you. Just do.

I'm just going to do it February 1st. Yeah there you go. But so the Patriots dominated I still don't understand for the life of me how any team and we talked to Eric Mangini about this in a minute but how any team can go into Fox Brown be like let's play a zone defense against Tom Brady and hope it works. Yeah it's like he just kicked him apart. It's like bet you won't but essentially they're they're gambling on the fact that Tom Brady will have his least accurate passing day ever.

James White caught 15 passes he's a running back he literally just would like if nothing's out there the guy coming out of the backfield is always open and it was surgical and I don't know what to make of Phil River like is Phil Rivers now do we have to say he's a choker? No we can't say that. I think we do. We can't say that. I think we do. I love him but he's a choker.

Gracious to Pete calm down. I think Phil well in this game we got some good vintage Phil Gifts at least. He threw some some of the most hilarious incompletions kicking kicking his feet. My favorite play in football. Hands. Come on guys. I'm demoting the full back dive to second place. My new favorite play in all football is Philip Rivers getting a snap after the play clock

expires and they call it delay a game and him doing that thing where he does like a shovel pass into the ground out of frustration. He stomps first. He stomps as hard as he can and he stomps like someone underneath his apartment is making too much noise. And then he just throws the ball as hard as he can in the ground and then puts his hands up and yells it everywhere if possible. He did a couple of fake kicks too like just kicking the air today and he just kicks his

imaginary hat. He's like a he's like Lupinella back in the day. Yeah. He's kicking kicking dirt over home plate. It's gonna suck because the rivers now he's he's got some years left but he's 37 and I don't want to call him a choker but this is bad like this was Phil Rivers year and 12 and four. They looked good.

I don't know. I don't know what to make of it. I feel sad. Phil Rivers and he has you know his eight children to go home to the whole thing is sad. Nine children. Nine children. Let's not tell him short.

Yeah. He's much more efficient than that. And his wife's pregnant again. And his wife. Yeah. If if Philip Rivers if Philip Rivers did the thing that Tom Brady does where he kisses his children like on the lips it would take him well first of all he had he had mono in no time just by the numbers game would take him like a full day.

He'd just be making out with his think about that though. If you have if you have the Sunday scaries at any point in the next couple of weeks think about the Sunday scaries of being on a playoff run being on a magical 12 and four season where everyone says oh Phil Rivers dark horse MVP then losing getting the shit kicked out of you and having to go back to nine kids because you know his wife was like I'm going to stay I'm going to let Phil do Phil during the season because he's having a great year the minute he shows up to his house he walks in the front door she probably hands him like a half dozen babies.

Yeah. I really do mean a half dozen babies. It's time for chores. Go ahead. Yeah. And watch the kids. Yeah. No that's that's a bad feeling for him.

But I did think that the Chargers had a chance the Patriots looked really really good. They do the thing that they do every year where they just turn it on in the postseason. They flipped a switch and the switch has been flipped. You can't beat the Patriots if you get severely outcoached and that sounds like that's not rocket science but he really and that's a hell of a take really got outcoached like to a maximum level. His defense did at least like the offense didn't look that great either. I thought that they were going to be in it after that first drive where he threw a touchdown

pass. Turns out we absolutely did not have any sort of a game whatsoever. I think I have a theory about Brady Hank. OK. Do you think that Brady just wants to keep playing so that he can tie LeBron James's number of championship losses. No. He's not even close.

They're pretty close. They're pretty close. They're within like two. He said he wants to play until he's like 50 right. Yeah. That's plenty of time. He did the thing to. He wants to get more championships than any other franchise has by himself.

I have a question. When he had a post game quote saying I know everyone thinks we suck. Who actually thinks the Patriots suck. Like. I know what. No one. OK. Now there are people they're Max Kalerman's of the world who want to get on the take

early. But I don't. Felger and Mads is the number one sports radio show in Boston and they are constantly showing the. But hold on. I would say the majority of the media. There's a difference between. Football.

There's media. Hank. Yeah. There's just the media. Before the Patriots to like dynasty to be over and for the in the rest of the majority of fans being like yo we know they're always still going to be good like they are. Yeah. I think there are people that like the Patriots can't be like in the 10th straight AFC championship

game and be like no one believes. Yeah. Underdogs. I mean they are technically literally. I bet against them so you'd have to shave your weird face. I didn't. I don't think that the Patriots suck. Then why'd you bet against them.

Because I wanted to see you shave the off chance because they wanted to wear a suit. Yeah. People be like oh you have a real job. Well you. So you're acknowledging that the Patriots were better. It's a good dynamic for the podcast. By the way like you rockin. No it does.

That shiny. I look like I could be either selling you an eight ball of coke or possibly I don't know. Down for an orgy. Yeah. Yeah. That's and I look like I could be like just returning. You're.

No you're. You're my lawyer. I'm buying the eight ball. No. No. You're my lawyer who gets me out of trouble when someone dies at the Coke orgy. I'm like the Hunter S. Thompson like fake lawyer that he has in his head. I need some help.

We had someone die again. Yeah. Yeah. I can I can fill that role. But yeah. Heck. Heck. Nobody thinks that the Patriots suck.

Nobody on earth thinks that the Patriots suck. I just don't get how you can say that after you bet against them. I just because you bet against them doesn't mean that. I don't. I agree with PFT. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah.

Thanks. Hank. You had a great weekend because you not only had that but Duke continued their undefeated season. So congrats on that. Thank you. Yeah. So we have they are the Patriots are underdogs going into Kansas City technically.

I had a stat of the day. You ready for it. Yeah. We're going to get to the. Who do you guys think is going to win that game. Kansas City because New England sucks. Yeah. We're we're disrespecting the New England Patriots on the show.

And I just think you should thank us. You should thank me for giving them more bulletin board material. I don't believe that the New England Patriots are a good football team. There you go. But you can get some of them and think they're the best team like you can do that. You can do you can I agree but you're saying where do you think Tom Brady gets it from. People a lot of the times they love to like see I okay all right. So let me clarify when he's like yeah that's that's different.

See that's different. That's different than people actually thinking the Patriots suck right. Like Max Kellerman going in front of America and trying to be a troll and being like the first to a take everyone sees that and like dude what are you doing. It's the same thing as a little brawn in the east was like you want to be the guy who thinks the bronze not going to come out of the east. Go ahead. You're going to say it every year.

You're going to be wrong every year and then one year you might be right. No one's going to give you a pat on the back. So it's like I just don't even I don't know but there are a lot of people saying so for him to say it like I think people admit that he's older than he was last year which is how time works right and there are a lot of people that are waiting for it and that will be very happy when it does happen. That's that's true. There are haters and losers of which there are many out there that really don't want

to see New England succeed. But that's totally different from anybody saying that they suck. I don't think anybody thinks the Patriots suck. What's your confidence level going to Kansas City. 80% 80% that's pretty high. It's going to be like a foot of snow. Love it. I mean it's supposed to snow in New England.

Okay. You can't really say that. We need to get a week in advance. All right. I was going to bring this up for the Chiefs Colts game. Let's just do the Chiefs Colts game. We need to have someone to create a Twitter account or some some kind of national maybe it hits our phones.

That wasn't a snow game. It was a snow game. No it wasn't. Earlier in the day. It was not a snow game. I was promised snow and I didn't get snow. What's happening is you see all these teams with the Mickey Mouse under the field heat coils.

It sucks. It melts the snow. I don't see that in Buffalo. A snow game. You see LaShon McCoy tiptoeing with like holding the ball by the point in like a foot of nothing but white powder and it's awesome. That's what I want to see when I see a snow game. A snow game has snow throughout the game and you can't see stuff and people are slipping

and some poor cameraman tears his ACL because like a 300 pound lineman slid into him. That's a snow game. What we saw on Saturday there was snow before the game but it wasn't a snow game and I'm very mad about that. I am too. It gave me blue balls. Because in the morning you saw like six inches. I know how much you love snow.

I know. It's one of my favorite things to look at. I know. I would rather. How sad for you. They should upload snow football onto U-Porn. Yeah. There should be like a specific category for that.

It's bullshit. There should be a particular set of interests. Or what does Christian Gray say. My my desires. Here we go. Here we go. My desires are unconventional. Give me some fucking snow football.

Is it what. Do you say that. Is that Gray's Anatomy. Christian Gray. Fifty Shades of Gray. Oh man card. Do that. Do that rocks.

Yikes. Like me. Yikes. Is a boss and then. Book reading. Yeah. All right. So that game.

Andy Reid. I saw the movie. Andy Reid is all of a sudden going forward on fourth down which is awesome and I I'll hand up. I bought in on the Colts. I was an idiot. They looking back on it. That was one of the dumbest things I've ever thought because if you actually look at who

the Colts played this year they played no one down that stretch where they won a million they went like nine and one. Yeah. They played no one and I'm an idiot for fucking buying into it. I think I don't know why I did. I think they had the the lowest strengths of schedule in the entire league right last ranked. And it was one of those things where as soon as the game started you're like oh yeah Patrick

Holmes is really fucking good and Tyree Kill. Tyree Kill when he when he hits the open speed that touchdown he scored he somehow makes like guys who run four or five forties in the secondary look like they're moving in complete slow motion. It's insane. There should be a rule that you can't be that fast because we say cheat code all the time like with Rob Gronkowski you know five years ago when he was in his prime hack. But like Tyree Kill is actually like a cheat code.

Yes. You can't catch him. That shouldn't be fair. It's like physically impossible. If he gets a half step on you it's over. You're absolutely done. And then to combine that with with Mahomes being able to throw the ball out of the entire stadium.

Yep. It's very very very tough to stop. Did you know. I like Damien Williams by the way. The new running back. Yeah. So basically they after a Korean hunt got kicked off the team they're like we're gonna go with Spencer where because he's too soon because he's big and and he's strong and so they gave

the ball to Spencer where like three times like yeah this guy looks like he's running through quicksand and then they're like we'll go to our third string guy see if he's any good. The third string guy is almost as good as Korean. Pretty good. Like I think he's going to be that's the PFT breakout star next year. By the way we forgot to mention the Colts or the Chargers Patriots game. I think that was probably Antonio Gates last game in the NFL.

But it's like the you know as you have a death you have a birth like one door opens another one or one door closes another one opens and Antonio Gates gone from the NFL. Patrick Mahomes. Did you know he was a shortstop. Yeah. That's the new Antonio Gates played played basketball. It's like every time he throws the ball sidearm underhand whatever. Oh well he was a shortstop.

It looks like he's turning two out there. Yeah. Wow. It's crazy. It's crazy. They're like there's a lot of angles are crazy. Which as we've pointed out that's going to catch up to oh yeah those mechanics. Yeah.

How about some. Yeah. When he was 42. He's not going to be able to do that. Honestly like his left hand passes like they're just they make me want to puke looking at his release time. Oh I have a big wind up by the way. So I pointed out the he points too much.

Yes. Which is true. He points too much first downs. My other thing I noticed about Patrick Mahomes and this is called nitpicking Patrick Mahomes because he's fucking unreal and he's going to be really good in football for the next 20 years and kill everyone. The front of his helmet that big white space it's way too big. Yeah.

Way too big. I agree. Don't you think. It should at least have some writing on it. Yeah. It's way too big. You know what else I don't like about him. He covers his ears a lot.

He's a home dude. You're trying to listen to the radio that that's you're trying to listen to Andy Reid make the play calls and he puts both hands on his ear holes and it looks like he's screaming like he's going. He looks like that painting the scream. Oh my he's just going insane and that's nitpicking Patrick Mahomes to get better ears. Essentially a rookie is going to win MVP and might win a Super Bowl. Yeah.

And he can pick. Throw a trading card through a watermelon. He's so goddamn good. All right. So my stat of the day. So I have two. The first one is from Warren Sharp at Sharp football. Good follow for football fans.

So final rankings on the season on early down success rate. One Saints two Rams three Chiefs four Patriots. Hmm. The best way to not get to third down or the best way to avoid third and long is to just never get to third down. That's what these guys that basically that's it. They just never get to third down. They just kick your ass on first and second down and you don't have to worry about third

and long. That's probably pretty good because he would throw an interception on second down. True. Never get to third down. Yeah. Team never gets a third down. Saber metrics. My other stat Patrick Mahomes was the first quarterback ever drafted from the Big 12

to win a playoff game. I love that set. That's so awesome. I wish I I wish I'd known that stat before he won today so that we could run with that narrative. Yeah. So now it's a little bit it's a little wonky because it's not counting for like the Big 8 which became the Big 12.

So like Cordell Stewart played at Colorado and like you know what I mean. So with conference real on the old Southwestern conference. Yeah. There's all weird shit like Troy Aikman played at Oklahoma then played at UCLA so not none of that stuff. But there is I think it's I think it goes back to like mid 90s. And so here are the guys that were drafted Vince Young never yet to play off. Baker Mayfield Patrick Mahomes Bryce Petty Geno Smith Landry Jones.

Remember him. Yeah. That was tough. He almost want to play off Ryan Tannehill Brandon Whedon Blaine Gabbard Sam Bradford. That's tough. Colt McCoy then it just falls off to just Vince Young Seneca Wallace Chris Sims Cliff Kingsbury Sage Rosenfels. So if you are someone who said Patrick Mahomes is going to be a bust.

Who would ever say that. Right. What it would say. No one ever say that. Just remember he is statistically broken all the molds. Now officially is being a good a successful big 12 quarterbacks such an outlier that you were right. Like you were exact.

It's like the Patriots predicting the Patriots are going to lose. You predicted the big 12 quarterbacks were going to keep stinking. Guess what. You were wrong once. You were right. Twenty other times. But statistically. You were in the right to make that claim.

Correct. You had good evidence. Yes. Surrounding. So don't feel bad. Okay. Again. I don't know.

Anybody out there that might have done that. Or say that he wasn't going to be good. But if you were now you can back it up with some facts. The Saints had an 18 play 92 yard touchdown drive that took 11 minutes and 29 seconds off the clock. Kills you over. That is absolutely smashed. The longest scoring drive in a playoff game since the merger.

Well they had every single time Taysum Hill came in he just they they had a successful play then got a penalty. That's true. Yeah. They had five plays that were good plays and there's like no there's a penalty. Yeah. By the way in the Patriots game did I see a player on the Patriots intentionally commit a false start so that they could get a new game or so that they could have the clock

run. There was something weird that happened. There was some monkey business that that only Belichick knows about where I go. Yeah. Something like that. Did he. Yeah. Remember he did that with.

Oh that's right. Yeah. An extra like 12 guys on the field. Yeah. Yeah. Manipulate. Yeah. Well I guess I can't be mad about that.

That's just like that makes me basically a hardball. I got a little stat. All right. So Cowboys at Rams. Tom Brady now has more playoff wins than Peyton Manning has played. It starts. Okay. Remember that.

Remember that fun debate a few years ago. Yeah. No. I don't. We don't really debate on this show so you must be confusing. I like to just be very agreeable at all times. Yeah. Great.

Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. No one cares. I enjoy the fine print. It's part of my take.

We agree on everything. How many Super Bowl losses does Peyton Manning have. One. Just one. Right. Just the one. Yeah. How many does he have.

He has two. No. He has two. Oh yeah. Seahawks. Yeah. Seahawks. Damn.

I forgot about that Super Bowl because I played it in New York and it was over. It was over when it started. Yeah. Safety first play though. That's right. That was the greatest prop ever. So how many does Brady have. Yeah.

I'll let you spend some time making that one. All right. Cowboys at Rams. Jared Goff has wheels. That's what I wrote down in my notes. Clutch. Yeah. Super clutch.

He does have the clutch gene. Super clutch. CJ Anderson is my new thick son. CJ Anderson. Love CJ Anderson. Yeah. He's my new thick son. Who's your old thick son.

No. He's my new thick son. My old thick son is Mike Sellers. You won't know about him. Walla Walla. Oh Landis Gary. I was throwing out old Denver running. Oh that's a really fun game to play.

That's like the Atlanta Braves. Yeah Mike Anderson. Yeah. Okay Mike Anderson. I'll go Terrell Davis obviously. Yep. It was Orland. Orlandis.

Orlandis Gary. Was he the 5-7 guy. Yeah. He was like 2-15. No. He's like. He wasn't that thick. He was a little thick.

Uh huh. Terrell Davis. Did they have like Bell. There was a guy. Yeah. Ruben Drones. Ruben Drones. Yeah.

That's a really fun game. Yeah. Oh yeah. What was the guy's name Bell. Fuck. Uh. Mike Bell. Was it Mike Bell.

Damn. I'm gonna look it up. Yeah. Running backs for the. Mike Shanahan. Every Broncos running back. By the way. You just throw him in the system and he's like one cut go.

Yeah. Mike Bell. Boom. If I was Mike Shanahan I would just rebrand myself and just like play up the fact that I had. I have like got a working relationship with Kyle Shanahan so I'm one of these new offensive gurus. Yep.

Do the Creed Bratton and just dye your hair jet black. Yes. He's like. Hey guys. What's up. Hey I'm one of these new. Hey I coach Sean McFay. He's actually from my coaching tree.

Oh. There's a spin zone from Mike Shanahan. Everybody that sprouts from Sean McFay's coaching tree is technically from the Mike Shanahan coaching tree. True. True. I just looked up the Denver Broncos running backs. All time rushing list.

Tim Tebow. 37th all time. Hmm. Rushing for the Denver Broncos. A little fun fact for you. Put that in your back pocket. Take it out. Impressive.

Impress a lady at the bar next week. I will. All right. So Cowboys Rams. Golf has wheels. Sean McFay is a mad man and I say that because he went for it on fourth and goal when a field goal would have put them up two scores and it had never been done in that exact situation where a field goal can put you up two scores, Sean McFay says, fuck it, I'm doing it.

And now I have to ask you this, if the Rams win the Super Bowl, will that start the Super Bowl DVD? It is. Sean McFay miked up in like, I fucking trust you guys. Go for it. Yeah. Probably. But like, it was a stupid call.

Yes. But what's going to be hilarious is that there are going to be a bunch of NFL head coaches that now start to do that when they have the opportunity because Sean McFay did it. It's going to be like, Sean McFay could like wear a thong on the sidelines and two weeks later, you'd see Frank Reich rocking a banana hammock. So I'm happy for Jared Goff because he played a great game and he's a friend of the program. I'm a little sad that we didn't have Sean McFay, like if the, if the Rams had lost that game, the hot takes of you really want to hire a Sean McFay disciple would have been awesome.

Yes. It would have been incredible. Just like, Oh, well, one game can decide everything. I still don't understand how the Rams ran all over the Cowboys the way they did. It was an absolute shit kicking right in front. It's because they, they were taking Vanderesh out a lot. Weren't they? Yeah.

So Sean Lee. Yeah. Yeah. Jason Garrett loves Sean Lee so much. He loves that. That might also be a Gerald, Gerald Jones call. He like makes the, picks up the red phone. Yeah.

In cases of emergency and just put that boy Lee in. Well, so we have to ask this question. This is the, the question coming out of this game. What do you do with Jason Garrett and Dak? Because now I feel like the Cowboys are in absolute purgatory because Dak did like Dak did just enough in those two playoff games, the drive against the Seahawks. He had a nice drive at the end of the game when they were trying to cut it to one score. Just enough to make you think that he's the guy, but also missed enough throws and looked

just like so shitty in the pocket at times to be like, this guy can't do it. He is the perfect like test case of how the hell can you give him money? Fuck it. We'll just give him money. Yeah. No, it was actually perfect for everybody. That's not a Dallas Cowboys fan. Yeah.

But the optimal result that we could have hoped for is having like one serviceable game, one mediocre game. And now they're already saying that he's going to extend Jason Garrett like Garrett is going to be around. He's got that nice 10 wins season to hang his hat on Jerry Jones just wants to win one playoff game. That's really cool. That's it.

That's it, baby. Yeah. I am very excited about having that dynamic duo unbelievable. And Marcus Peters, the viral clip from the first time that Rams played the same saying tell Sean Payton to keep talking that shit. I'm going to see him soon is now going re viral again. We have the best like these conference championship games. If either of these games are brought on be so fucking disappointed.

They probably both. But you know what? Give us some good. We got we got four football games left. Three. You're not counting the Pro Bowl. I don't. We have four football games.

No, they ruined it. It's in Orlando. They ruined the Pro Bowl as soon as you start the most magical place on earth. I can't figure out who's on what team. Team Dion versus team Michael Irvin. Let me just say congratulations to part of my take because of the four remaining teams. Zero got the Dunchain. Yes.

So we're right. We nailed the Dunchain this year. We didn't get a lot of shit for the Dunchain. Let's just clarify something. The Dunchain means that you have no chance of winning the Super Bowl. And would you look at that PFT? We were dead on nailed it. Dead on.

Absolutely nailed it. So there was a lot of talk that we had Dunchain, the Seahawks, we had Dunchain, the Cowboys, we had Dunchain, the Eagles. Well, where are they now? At home. At home. Exactly where we told you they would be. Done.

As first reported. Sitting, looking at their nice jewelry that says done. Right across the chance. I would actually rock a Dunchain. Hell yeah. We should get one made. Hashtag done. Let's absolutely get one made.

All right. I made one more note here. Oh yeah. Every time I see the Saints and the Eagles play each other, I just always think of that Reggie Bush hit. Yeah. That's fair. So just wanted to pass that along.

That's fair. That's a good one. Everybody close your eyes and remember that hit because it was awesome. Okay. One other note about the Saints games, I love Saints games because you at many times they'll show the crowd and you don't know if they're players or not because everyone's dressed in full pads. There was a moment we were watching the game and they were showing the punter pumping up

the crowd and someone we were watching Ken Jack, we were watching the game was like, is that a player or is that a fan? It's like, no, that's actually the punter, but that's the beauty of New Orleans is it all blends together. Yes. And just the most ridiculous human beings in the crowd. I love Whistle Man. The guy with the big hat that's a whistle.

The saint, the big Pope. The guy with the big ring. To be fair though, like Morstead's pads, those look like costume pads. Like something that you would buy at Party City for your five-year-old and it's like my five-year-old wants to go as a real life football player for Halloween. And it's like, okay, here are two big boxes that you're going to put on each shoulder. All right, let's go. Who's back of the week?

Ready, Hank? Sure. Okay. You want me to go first? You should go first, Big Ken. No, you go first. You go first. No, you go first.

Tell you what, I'll go first. Okay. Oh. Celebrity Big Brother is back. I don't know. I think it's coming out like next Monday or something like that. But they announced it today and it was one of the funniest commercials of all time because they listed everybody that was going to be in it and they're like, and the big celebrity,

Cato Kalen. And it revealed Cato. But I took a look through the list of who's going to be on it. It is chock full of recurring guests. Ryan Lochte, Cato Kalen, Ricky Williams, and The Mooch are on this season. So I think I might get into Big Brother this year. We have to watch it. It's just film stuff.

Don't remember. We talked to the therapist. Don't make promises. I won't. I want to watch it. I would like to. In a perfect world, I'd watch The Big Brother. Think about it as just like hard knocks for D-list celebrities.

Okay. That works. Yeah. Is there a sprinkler? Yeah. There should be at least one. And they cut people. So far.

Three games left. I don't make me think of hard knocks. I guarantee you Dina Lohan believes in crystals. We're so far away from week one. We're so far away from week one. All right. If you take a look off in the distance, Big Cat, you can see a little ray of sunshine coming over the mountain.

You know what that is? Yeah. That's draft takes. Yeah, but I'm doing that thing like the Jewish grandmother thing. You go visit your Jewish grandmother and she says, why don't you ever visit me? There's three games left. And I'm like, we're so far away from week one, but there's still three games. All right.

Hank, go ahead. You go ahead, Big Cat. All right. My who's back is Blake Griffin. Yes. Who is in the running for Blake of the Year. It's a two-man race. Blake Griffin.

So on Saturday afternoon, he went back to LA, first time back in LA to play the Clippers as a piston. He's in warm-ups. Steve Ballmer wants to go and say hello to Blake. He wants to be all fucking nice and, oh, hey Blake, I'm sorry I raised, you know, your banner, your jersey to the rafters, then traded you three months later. He goes to give him a handshake. Blake runs right by him because guess what?

We don't care for you, Steve Ballmer. Blake's never forget. We don't forget. And then he dropped 44 points, which was like, I saw that tweet and then I just went and they're like, all right, he's going to have a monster game. What was the overunder for that? Like I have 40 and a half points rebounds and assists. Oh hell yeah.

I love that. He crushed it. Bad week for Silicon Valley and technology executives. Steve Ballmer, Ballmer, Bezos. Don't bring that trash in here. We ride with Blake. So you're out, Steve Ballmer. Bill Gates is way cooler than you see.

If you want to come on the show, though, we'll let you come on. Actually, I would love to talk to you. We'll let you. He seems like an all time sweat guy, like him and Jerry Tarkanian. He should just rock a towel over for the whole time. Yeah. All right, my other who's back. I don't want to talk about it because it happened on Friday after our show, but Cody

Park, good morning America. Fucking ridiculous. Yeah, it was great. No, I thought it was great. Like he, first of all, a kicker is not who he is. It's what he does. Okay. So cut him some slack.

We feel bad for kickers in this capacity. This is the end of our civilization, folks. Everything that we stood on for the longest time, America, what it was founded on, not feeling bad for kickers when they fuck up. Guess what? It's over. You got one job to do. Yeah.

Kick the ball. That's my Rex Ryan impression. Hell, it's 43 yards. It's not that hard. Just kick the ball. Every empire has its expiration date. When Cody Park, he on good morning America, that was America's expiration date. That was the moment where it's like, it's over.

You're the guy that told Blair Walsh it wasn't his fault though. Well, that was also like six months after. Is this Cody Park? You can give him time. You can give him time. He did it five days after. You coddled him. Yeah.

I think you led to this. You coddled Blair Walsh. You looked him in. Was his name? Yeah. Oh yeah. You looked him in the eye and you coddled him. You opened the door for this type of kicker forgiveness.

We were just trying to do a bit and it felt really flat because he was very confused why we kept saying it's not your fault. I think he knew. That was awkward. That was very awkward. Rod Rigo is better anyways if we're talking Georgia kickers. Should have made the playoffs. NFL playoffs.

My who's back of the week is World Records. So I'm sure you guys saw this but a picture recently broke the world record of most likes on Instagram. Did you guys see the picture? I did not. Must have been a booty, right? I'll bet it's off here. I just texted it to you.

Must have been a fat with a pH booty. You guys can tell me whether or not it's... It's a booty. Wait what are we telling you? What are we telling you? This is worth the most likes on Instagram history. It's an egg. Egg gang.

Hashtag egg gang. World record egg. Let's set a world record together and get the most like post on Instagram beating the current world record held by Kylie Jenner 18 million. We got this. And it's a picture of an egg. A brown egg. Actually it's a pretty good egg.

Kylie Jenner should just one up and take a picture of her ovaries and be like one real egg. Fellas. Yeah. Let's beat this other egg. This egg account has 1.9 million followers. I'm actually into this. This egg is...

Oh wait it's got a story up too. What's the story? Like the egg gang. I don't like the story. I'm done with... I'm done with... That's... Come on.

Come on. Kylie Jenner make with the fallopian tubes. Yeah let's go. One up it. We can't let this fucking egg win. I'm out of this back is game of thrones. Okay. They released a trailer.

Full, full minute trailer. Okay. All right. So PFT and I don't watch game of thrones. Let's watch. We're going to watch the trailer. So this is breaking news. No other podcast has done this and by that I mean have two hosts that don't watch game

of thrones, watch the trailer and give you our immediate thoughts. So here we go. Ready? This is like Jason Wittner and Booger watching the college national championship game and commentating. Yeah. Why? Hey what?

Why did you just do a fair catch? Why didn't you throw a red challenge for that? All right. There's a guy walking. He's wearing. He looks comfortable. He looks like a Viking. Yeah.

He's rocking a bunch of fur. Is Mike Zimmer in this? That's funny. Feather drops. Okay. So he's got a torch. Wait. Hank is this, this is problematic.

This really does look like. You can't have torches. This looks like it could be a playoff like hype video. Uh-huh. When did the boobs and wolves come in? Is this Khaleesi? No. Is Khaleesi in this?

Is she dead? What? Khaleesi died? No. No. Khaleesi is the blonde one. All right. So they're just meeting in what looks like a subway tunnel.

I mean, I'm being honest here. They're also wearing fur, which is problematic. I can't tell, like, how are those torches burning so brightly? They got some sort of like, accelerant on there? PFT, they see themselves in these claymations and then the thing went out. Okay. So like, they're seeing themselves in the future. You see that?

The feather got frost. That means winter's coming. Oh, winter's coming. Mm-hmm. I know that. Because it's January. Are those the white walkers? Dude, I don't see color, please.

And now's when. Now's when Patrick Mahomes comes out and be like, we got this Kansas City. Now I get it. I get it now, Hank. I'm a big fan. For the throne. I learned nothing from that entire one and a half minutes, but I'm excited. Oh my God.

I'm excited. What? Tell us what happened in that. I'm excited too. What were the names of the people? No, you got it. You nailed it all. What were the names of the people in that?

John Snow, Sansa, Aria. John Snow. That was Sansa? Wait. John Snow is the younger guy, right? He's the guy. He's the guy. He's the guy.

He's the guy. Which sister? One guy and two girls. Which one of his sisters did John Snow sleep with? Sansa. Neither of them. Khaleesi. They're only his half sisters.

He's a bastard. Okay. Don't. Come on, man. You don't know why the dad couldn't, you know, be around for the family. Well, his dad actually got murdered. His dad actually got murdered. Yeah, probably.

No, his dad was actually the last dragon. Wait, his father was a dragon? His dad was a dragon? Yeah. But people don't know that that's his dad. He doesn't even know who his own dad is. So it's just Star Wars. Yeah.

Well, it's Star Wars. No, but his dad is a dragon. No, he doesn't know who his dad is. I mean, it's Star Wars. They just read it. So how come he's not Park Dragon? He is. He just doesn't know it.

What do you mean? How do you not know? Like, he's just flying and he's like, this is weird. Is he like shed every now and then? Like, why is my skin falling off? Yeah. You know, he like burps and burns down his house. Fuck, I hate it when that happens.

Shit. Not again. Yeah. The fire alarm's going off. Okay. So Game of Thrones back. Fuck it. We are going to watch it.

Okay. We are going to watch it. Okay. So Game of Thrones back. Fuck it. We are going to watch it. Okay. Right after we finished with Celebrity Big Brother.

I really do want to watch Game of Thrones just so many hours. How do I do that? Start. Start in season three. Can I watch like double speed? Just starting season three. I'm telling you. You really?

You started season three and you went backwards though. No, I went three, four, five, six. I went three, four, five, six, seven, one, two. And then now I'm on three, four, five, six. I'm about to finish seven. You're rewatching it? Yes. See.

Are you just caught in an endless Game of Thrones loop? Yes. This is what happens to people like you, Hank. All you Game of Thrones stands out there. Damn. You're just never going to stop watching Game of Thrones. No, until it's over. Imagine being the person at your office water cool who didn't know that you were a dragon.

Oh, man. And you took the chargers. Oh, God. Oh, God. Damn. All right. You know what I'm going to do? Yeah.

I want to get a T-Max suit. Like a T-Max suit. Like a 2003. You know, it's like January 14th, right? Yeah. They count the suits again. I've got a problem. I already spent a lot of money on suits today.

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He is former coach of the Jets and the Browns. You remember him very well. He also was on the Sopranos once, not to brag. Coach, great to talk to you. I got to start with your former team, the New England Patriots and the fact that they are again in the AFC Championship game. It's almost like a guarantee every single year. You obviously haven't been with the team for a very long time, but is there ever a moment where you step back and you say, how the hell is this thing still going?

No, no. It actually surprises me when they struggle at different points because just knowing how hard they work there and the approach they take and then the experience that you have between Bill and Tom and the way that they're able to just compound the reps, it's hard. I mean, it's hard for a head coach. This is his first time with playoff experience or going into that environment and trying to deal with Bill and Tom and the whole staff. We've got Dante Skarnakia, Josh McDaniels, just a lot of years built up in that group.

So off that, I have another question about that game. I don't understand any team that thinks they can beat Tom Brady with a zone defense. When you're watching that, are you like, what the hell are the Chargers doing? And maybe can you explain to us why a zone always fails against the Patriots and what kind of defense can beat the Patriots? Well, the problem, they tried to do some different things early and it didn't work out. And so they defaulted back to Moore's zone. They were doing a couple of variations early.

The thing with Tom is if he knows what you're in, he's going to the right place. And he's different than a lot of quarterbacks because he's not selfish. He doesn't care about stats. He doesn't care about anybody's feelings. If you're open, he's going to throw you the ball and he just sits there and he assesses the defense and he sees what the defense is in. So without disguising coverages and giving him his own coverage, you've got no chance. You have absolutely zero chance because he's going to constantly go to the right place and he's going to be patient enough to do it five, six, seven, eight times in a row

until you decide to change it. To me, the best way to attack this is to give them something that they haven't seen. And that was always the approach I had in New York is come out, give them some things they haven't seen, they haven't prepared for, they have to deal with. They've got to go over the sideline and talk about. And then really in the second half, we had a totally different game plan. So you knew that they were going to go into the locker room, get it figured out. So you had to have a second pitch within the game plan if you want to have any type of shot.

And also by halftime they'll have figured out all of your signals and stuff because they'll have time to review the tape so you can change that up at the half. Do coaches actually psych themselves out? Do they overthink things? Do you think when they're going in an environment like this, coaching in the playoffs for the first time, going into Foxboro, it's cold, you're used to the weather in LA. Are there things that you think coaches get too far into their own heads about?

Yeah, you can do that. I think some teams go into Foxboro and that this has happened all the time where they were kind of caught up in the mystique. You knew that you had an edge on them early because of the winning that you had done, the success that you had had. And there's a little bit of that element of having an advantage that way. In terms of getting too emotional in the playoffs, that happens with coaches and players. And you've got to spend a lot of time trying to bring guys down

and get them to operate at a level that they've been operating to get them to that point because you can be exhausted by the end of the first half because there's so much emotion and adrenaline and all the things that go into the playoff environment. On the other side of that matchup with the AFC, you've got the Patriots going to Arrowhead. There have been times where Pat Mahomes has looked human this year in little moments. I think the first half against the Broncos, was that the game where it was Monday night? Yeah. It didn't look great.

He's had some bad quarters and bad halves. If you are game-playing to stop Patrick Mahomes, what is the first thing you would look to do? Well, the other time he looked human was against New England. He threw the two picks in the first half. They were down. I think it was like 24-9. They had three field goals in that first half and they're playing much better in the second half. With Mahomes, that defense is based on timing and spacing.

So you've got to get up and you've got to disrupt the timing. You've got to disrupt the spacing of the wide receivers and tight ends. And you saw the Colson do a very good job with that. I'd say that's the first thing. The second thing is you've got to keep him in the pocket. You have got to keep him in the pocket and not let him extend those plays because they've got guys that can make huge plays on broken plays. That'd be the second thing.

And the third thing is give him looks that he hasn't seen. Give him some things that as a young quarterback, he's got a process. So disguising, moving around, making it look like something that he's seen a bunch and then stemming into something else late and forcing him to make post snap decisions. Because the other thing that he'll do is he'll give you an opportunity to win the game. We call those quarterbacks make something happen guys because they're going to make something happen either for you or them. Football playing, Jesse.

I like that. I like that. I have a dumb question. Hopefully you can help me out with this. The Dallas Cowboys completely obliterated the Seattle Seahawks run game a week ago. Then they go to LA and it couldn't have been more night and day. The Rams gashed them for yards all night long with Todd Gurley and CJ Anderson. How does that happen week to week?

Is that just simply going on the road? The Rams were more physical. Explain to me how that can just be so drastically different where a defense looks so good one week and so bad the next. The Cowboys have been running on adrenaline for a while. They started there. This is a playoff game mantra like six or eight weeks ago. So I'm sure they were pretty tired by the time they got to this game. But all that being said, it can be matchups in terms of how your old line matches up against the D line.

The scheme, some teams are zone scheme teams where they'll get big double teams on the first level. Drive guys off and create holes that way. Other teams are gap trapped where they're pulling in angles. And different defenses react to that stuff radically different at times. And I think the problem with the Rams is you had CJ Anderson who's one style downhill and then you got Gurley who can get the edge and go for 50 or hit it up inside. Now also you've got to deal with the passing game. So you may be playing light boxes. You're not thinking that the Rams are going to come out and run the ball 30 plus times.

You're thinking that you've got to stop the pass. You've got to have seven in the box so that you can keep people back deep. And then you don't have the numbers. And by the time you switch, it's a little too late. That's interesting. You bring up the adrenaline and playing like it's the playoffs for the last run of the season. Because I feel like that kind of happened to the Eagles today where they've basically been in playoff mode for a month. They come out, they punch the Saints in the face.

And then once the Saints kind of figured out where they were, the Eagles didn't do anything for the rest of the game. Is that like, is that a situation where you see a team, they kind of almost run out of gas? I don't want to say they ran out of gas, but it feels like that. Well, the Eagles were the most interesting team in the playoffs to me because we won our first Super Bowl in New England. The next year we got knocked out of the playoffs and we were 9-7-2. We needed the Jets to lose and they ended up winning the last week of season. We all ended in a tie. The Jets went to the playoffs, but we went through that same sort of progression that the Eagles did where we were good initially.

Then we weren't very good and then by the end of the season we had it figured out. And I really thought if we got in the playoffs that year we'd have a chance to win it. And that's how the Eagles felt to me this year. I think with this game, the Saints, I get the showing the guys the $250,000 and the Lombardi trophy and all those things. But that to me felt like you were looking past the Eagles. I get it, you want to motivate your guys what the ultimate goal is, but you can't get to that until you beat Philly. The last game was a 48-7. I don't think they thought this game was going to be very difficult. New Orleans didn't.

Philly came out, totally shocked them, and then New Orleans realized, okay, we got a problem. And Philly changed a lot of things up. Defensively last time, they double-teamed Michael Thomas and Kamara, and it caused issues from a fit perspective. It caused issues from a communication perspective. They didn't do that, and Michael Thomas says, would he finish up with 170 yards receiving? I don't think they ran out of gas as much as, you know, eventually New Orleans realized, all right, this is actually a game. Right, so sticking with that game, if you're the general manager of the Eagles going next year, is there a case to be made for sticking with Foles? Yeah, that's hard, because there's a body of work that Foles has as a starter that's not very good. And at one point he was with Andy Reid, who drafted him, and they moved on.

So the question is, is he a situational guy? Is he like a 5-6 game guy as opposed to a starter? You see what he's done in these precious situations, and you think, yeah, of course he should be the guy. And then you take a step back and you look at what he's done historically, and you wonder which player you're really getting. And they've got a young quarterback that they've invested a lot into and feel like has a much higher upside, although nobody knows if he can win in the playoffs. Nobody knows if he can win in pressure moments. So you've got a good problem and also a really tough decision based off of kind of fluky patterns. How much would you give for Carson Wentz right now? Good question, thank you.

I'm setting the market for him. How much would you trade? Yeah, if you're trading for him. Well, where am I at? Say you're Denver. If I was back in Cleveland, I probably would have given quite a bit. You know, I've dealt with some quarterbacks that, you know, we won a game with three completions, so to have a guy with Carson Wentz down, that's pretty exciting. But the market is going to be set probably after the draft.

You know, once everybody goes through who they pick, what they see on their roster and then injuries, you know, you'll get an injury in training camp and that's when a guy like that, either guy can be really valuable. Yeah. Alright, moving off to playoffs real quick for a second. You obviously were a defensive coach. What do you think about the change in the NFL in terms of all these guys getting hired that are young, that are offensive minded, and it seems like a lot of teams are saying, we're going to hire a guy who basically just, what his job is as a head coach now is to just get the best out of our quarterback.

That's probably our most important asset. Do you see this trend continuing in the NFL or do you think it's going to be kind of a regression to the mean where some of these guys maybe don't succeed the way that Sean McVeigh has or even Matt Nagy or some of these guys who have gotten the most out of their quarterbacks? I think it's just cyclical. It's like ties, things come back in fashion, go out of fashion. You know, when I was hired, I was 34, and then Lane Kiffin got hired. He was like 32, Josh was younger than that, and then there's like five or six guys.

There were a bunch of guys that were all young guys that got hired around that same period. Then it cycled back and went older. I imagine that this will be the same thing. Everybody's trying to copycat and catch onto this trend. Being a head coach is hard. Being a head coach at a young age is really hard as well. What Sean McVeigh's done has been impressive, but it's not easy. There's going to be a lot of guys who struggle.

Have you ever hung out with Sean McVeigh? Have you coached with him? We'll build up your resume a little bit here and get some buzz around your name. You had a cup of coffee with him. I saw him when I was down in Washington interviewing at one point, and we caught up there. We had seen him around the league at different points, but no, I haven't hung out with him of late. Saw him in Washington. We'll update your Wikipedia page. You think that's all it takes?

Yeah, honestly, yes, for sure. I have another question on that because I'm not a guy who says the league has changed forever. I think, like you said, it's cyclical. I think there's been an evolution of the game. Clearly it's different than 10 years ago. There's a lot more passing, but the one thing all year, I was saying defense still matters in January, but then you look and the best defenses in the tournament are now out. You know, Chicago, Dallas, Houston, Indy was even playing good defense,

even though they didn't have a super strong schedule. So now I'm starting to think maybe this is the league now. Like, well, you don't have to play defense. You got to have a great quarterback, a couple of defensive playmakers, and just get out there. Well, I think you got a great quarterback. You look at the Rams, how did they win? They won primarily running the ball. I mean, nobody would have thought that Baltimore gets into the playoffs because they ran the ball really effectively.

And the quarterback and when he throw 13, 14 passes or whatever it was. So there's defense and running the ball is still a big part of this. And the Saints have played good defense for a while. So these defense got much better. And when you look at the Kansas City game, as good as Mahomes was, Kansas City's defense played much better than anybody expected. So maybe the answer is be shitty on defense all year and then just hope your defense turns into the 2006 Colts like overnight. That's always the formula, right? You want to be shitty at the beginning of the year and really good at the end of the year.

But it does scare me as a guy who loves defense, seeing Dallas, Baltimore, Chicago, like all the best defenses that were in the playoffs get bounced and now you get the final four. And those guys, you know, New England could play good. It has a very good secondary. Obviously Aaron Donald is probably the best pure football player left in the playoffs. But you just see like the team defense is not the best team defenses got bounced in the first and second round. When you look at the Rams defense, they had a bunch of guys that are big money guys that are guys that late in the season probably weren't playing very hard because that's not. They knew they were in the playoffs.

They knew their position was pretty much locked up. And those guys are making a huge amount of money and they're not, you know, they're different personalities than traditionally I've been used to coaching. And you know, I think they shut it down for, you know, four or five weeks. But now you're going to get their best. Everybody's going to give their best. I think the Rams are better defensively than they played late. Which of the four remaining defenses do you think is the strongest? Oh God, you know, I would say New Orleans pride defense and specialty.

Are we grouping special teams there too? Yeah, we started the game. Yeah, like New Orleans. I like their combination of defense special teams, but the corners struggle. You know, New England's always interesting defensively because they can do so many different things. And I think that's the unique thing about New England versus everybody else. You hear game plan specific or game plan specific. Yeah, that's true.

Guys will take plays out of their playbook for that game. New England will change everything for a game. To me, that's truly game plan specific. And I think that's what makes their defense probably the most unique of the group. I want to jump back real quick. You were talking about, you know, some of these young guys. People forget that at the time you were hired, weren't you? Were you the youngest coach in the history of the NFL?

I was up there like maybe top three, top two. What was one thing that surprised you about the job that you wish you had known going into it at such a young age? Because we're seeing a bunch of these young guys get hired now. They probably have a lot of blind spots. Oh my God. When you become a head coach, you've got blind spots no matter how old you are. Like, Vic Fangio is an older guy, and he's going to have blind spots. And things come up that you never, ever thought you were going to deal with.

For me, the media, I had done one press conference in New England. This was before it was mandatory. And like the middle of August, when there were about six people at the press conference, and then barely anybody asked a question. And then I go to New York, and there's, you know, 25 cameras in the back of the room, and there's 100 people in the room. And having to deal with that aspect of it was hard. It was really hard.

And then when you're that young, you've got to establish legitimacy in the building. And guys have to see that you actually can put them in a position to win. And otherwise, it's nice that you have the job where you're going to lose, you're going to lose the building pretty quickly. Yeah, it's the old, you know, control the story before the story controls you. That's how they got Jim Tomsul. Yeah, that's right. When you farted in that press conference, did you ever fart in a press conference?

Did they ever conclusively? Yes, it was. I mean, come on. You have eyes. You have a brain. You heard it. Like, it was a fart. And it's Jim Tomsul.

That's a fart guy. You know, you coached with Coach Tomsul. I was with Jim. Jim was great. I never actually seen that press conference. I'll take a look at it. No, I did not do that in a press conference. I was fortunate that way.

Did you just say that you lived with Jim? No. I worked with him. No, no, I worked with Jim. Oh, I was about to have so many questions for you. Yeah, what was it? Speaking of press coverage, what was like the worst press conference answer or, I don't know, maybe there wasn't a specific answer, but one time that you like, man, I wish I had

that back. That was really stupid of me. I just said, I said, Chad Pennington is our quarterback right now. No. Yep. And I said it during training. We drafted Kellen Clemens. It was during training camp.

It wasn't, it was all about, I was stressing the fact that everybody was in a competitive, you know, everybody had to compete, but it wasn't trying to stir up any big quarterback controversy. It was just following in line with every other position. And it became a story for, you know, the next month, you know, Chad's going to lose his job. Man genie uncertain. I said, you know, a thousand things.

Just stop that Chad Pennington is the quarterback and just ended the press conference. It would have been a lot, a lot better. Yeah. I feel like that gets every coach though. Also, it's Chad Pennington, like his position that Chad Pennington plays is starting quarterback for the moment. Yes. He's not like, he's not a long-term anything.

So I think true. Yeah. All right. My last question, it's a C key question put in promo code take you get $10 off your C key purchase. So it actually was the 20th anniversary of the Sopranos coming out. I think it was like Thursday and I know we asked you in person, but when you were in the Sopranos, when you were at Vesuvio, it was Vesuvio too, I think, because the first

one burned down. It burned down. What was Tony? Tony burned it down. The insurance. Did you, did you meet all the guys and were they just like, I feel like Paulie and Silvio were probably exactly the same off camera as on camera. Well, I spent some time with James Gandolfini and actually the script was written where

he and I were friends and he said, look, we, you can't do this. We can't have you and I be friends. You'll take a lot of heat for that. And I thought, why would I ever take it to TV show who would ever, you know, care about that. But he was right. People are mad that I was on Sopranos in general because I, you know, like I'd broken some sort of code was.

Oh, Marza. Really? Yeah. I got a lot of, a lot of feedback, you know, you shouldn't associate with gangsters and you know, so you assume it's a TV show, everybody would get that. But he was great. I met most of the group that was in that scene, but James was a big Jets fan and he used to come to the games and he'd bring his son and sit in our box a lot of times.

So yeah, he was, he was a great, great guy. That would have been a great storyline to have is like, you are like linked up with Tony Sopranos and you're shaving points left and right and that would be like an awesome season. They should have done that. Now I'm upset. Yeah. It would explain the losses late my third year.

Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. You could have just spun all your losses into just like, well, it's part of the show. Here's what, here's an actual football question. I think it's supposed to snow a lot in Kansas City. If you're a defensive coordinator and you're like installing a new game plan, is there anything specific that you do knowing that there's going to be, you know, a significant

amount of snow? Yeah. Look, I loved snow as a DB coach, a defensive coordinator, snow, rain, sleet, anything that to slow down the track and especially if their players are faster than your players. I remember when we beat Oakland in the, you know, the Tuck game, that was actually on my birthday and it snowed all day and it was, it was the best. It was the best because it just slows things down. What you got to do with the DBs, because be often the players know when they're going

to break, they should have the advantage because they can, they can throttle down. They can anticipate it. You've really got to work with the guys on having the right cleats and transition and in New England, there's going to be lousy weather all week. You'll be outside practicing, but it's understanding the footing and then you spend a lot of time talking about the wind because it depends on is the wind blowing across because then the ball carry further on one side than the other side. You know, how does that, how is that going to affect the throws and you want the DBs

to be able to anticipate that too? Okay. My last serious question, do you remember what color the Gatorade usually would be on the Patriots sidelines? I'm just trying to like, we're trying to figure out in the event that, you know, a certain team makes the Super Bowl. We want to bet on the color of the Gatorade bath. Back on the color.

Yeah. What's, what's traditional is what like as a green or lime. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yellow. Yeah. I think we were, we were traditional on our sidelines.

Okay. Did you? I would go lemon lime. Did you shoot a Belichicka text today and be like congrats? Yeah. Yeah. I was at the game. Oh, you were you?

No. You got me there. All right. You should do that. Just be like, hey, hey coach thinking of you. Congrats. Yeah. And just see, you should do that after every big win and just see if he'll ever, ever

respond. Yeah. I'll, I'll, I'll start doing that. All right. Coach. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. Hopefully see you soon.

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Thanks to coach Eric Mangini for joining us. First up, we have a way to stay relevant baseball. Now baseball is in a little bit of a pickle here. Kyler Murray, you probably have heard. He is signed a $4.6 million bonus with the Oakland A's was drafted ninth overall. The A's said go play football in Oklahoma. There's no way you'll fall in love with being a quarterback at a big 12 school and going to the college football playoffs and winning the high spin.

No chance. Well, it turns out, guess what? He did. He found that he probably loves playing football and he loves the guaranteed money that will come if he becomes a first round pick. So he has gone to the A's and said, pay me $15 million or else I will play football. I love this. Awesome.

I love the move. And here's where the way to stay relevant baseball comes in, baseball. So you can't just give someone $15 million. He hasn't played in, you know, minor leagues. He's not. He doesn't know. You don't know. Give him a contract like that.

Major League Baseball would waive a rule that prevents teams from giving major league contracts to recently drafted players if Kyler Murray and the Oakland A's can strike a deal that would have him choose baseball over football. During a meeting in Dallas today, the possibility of Oakland guaranteeing money in addition to Murray's $4.66 million signing bonus was raised sources tell ESPN to do so. If someone needed to add Murray to his 40 man roster, he still could develop in the minor leagues. So Kyler Murray is essentially like making baseball change all of its rules just so that

he won't play football. Holy shit, baseball. Get off your knees. It is pretty hilarious. I hope he gets all the money that he wants. And then I hope he's like, I'm actually going to play both. Yeah. And he plays baseball and football.

Yes. Double dip on that salary. It's funny. Like everyone laughs at the transfer portal, which is an awesome name. I love that name. Baseball should just come up with their own version of like, just give, give free agency. Give these like, uh, like supplemental draft, all the most boring parts about your game. Just give them cool names like a transfer portal and people start paying attention to

you. Yeah. I agree. And it's just, I mean, it's hilarious because baseball actually does need someone like this. I mean, we've talked about a million times baseball does have like a star problem. Well, like a perfectly average type player. Yeah.

Perfectly average type player, but it also shows, and this is a knock on baseball because I do love baseball, but the NFL still king and the NFL still calls all the shots and it's sad that baseball basically has to be like, you know what, we'll break all the rules just so you can come play. I still think he'll probably just go to the NFL, right? If, well, yeah, probably, if you were like a grumpy older player that's been stuck in like AAA baseball, would you be pissed off if he got like a special contract that you were never allowed to get?

Probably, but it comes down to one simple fact, being the quarterback on an NFL team is the coolest thing you can do in sports. Like it is. It just is. It's always going to be the coolest thing. It's always going to be the, you know, the top of the mountain in terms of position, sport, you name it, quarterback, NFL will always trump almost everything else. I'm ready for the takes though.

Like I'm ready for the backlash takes like the John L. Way would never do something like this. Right. Takes. Right. Exactly. What were you saying? One random stat I found interesting.

Yeah. NFL merger in 1970, there have been 107 QB selected in the first round of the draft. Here's a list of the ones that were shorter than six feet tall. Oh. Zero. Okay. So what? That doesn't mean anything just because you weren't selected high.

But just mean that Kyle Murray might not be worth all the money that he thinks he's worth in the NFL. Okay. Well, everyone in the military as good in the NFL as people think he is because he's not that. Everyone in the military right now went on drafted. How tall is Russell Wilson? I mean, he wasn't first round, obviously.

Yeah. He's third round. He's like 511. He's like 519. 519. No. Drew Brees. No, he's like 511.

510. I think he might be six feet. But that kind of, that, like that would be my counterpoint. Two guys who've won a Super Bowl in the last decade or yeah, decade, Drew Brees is listed at six feet. So that means he's 511. He's not. He's 510 probably.

Yeah. Listen, it's all about the windows. Yeah. You got to find the passing windows. Yeah. Pat Mahomes makes windows all the time. Yeah. Just, you know what they do is they just get a team with shorter offensive linemen.

There you go. That's a rocket science. Yeah. This is really easy guys. Are you just get a little person quarterback and they throw the ball in between their offensive linemen's legs? Mm. That works too.

It does work. Hank, are you height shaming? That's who it sounded like to me. Yeah. No, just the interesting, I just found it interesting. Okay. That's all I'm saying. That there haven't been.

Well, are you saying that he's not going to get drafted in the first round? I think he will be. I think he will be. He wouldn't do it. Yeah. I mean, that's the guaranteed money. But just watch it, okay? Some of us here are sensitive about our height and also wearing full suits.

No, not sensitive about that. In fact, I think. What would you list yourself as DFT if you could, like, 6'1"? If I could, you got to go 6'1", because people will be like, no, you're not 6'1". 6'1 with a goatee. And you're like, you know what? I'm 6 feet. You got me.

And you dunk. That way I can be like, you got me. I'm just going to say it. I think wearing a suit makes me look taller. Whatever you think, buddy. Yeah. Yeah. You could probably dunk a basketball right now.

I can get a rim. God dammit. All right. Let's see. One time, I actually hung on a rim, like a 10 foot rim, and I had no idea how I got up there. I was just, like, holding it. I was looking.

I was like, how the fuck did that happen? Like, is the ladder fell? No, the ladder fell right over. And I've never been able to, like, grab a rim ever since then. It was like, for about half a second, my body clicked. Can I throw something out there? It's a guess. I don't think that rim was 10 feet.

No, it was a high school gym. Okay, but I don't think that rim was 10 feet. It was a 10 foot rim. Because then I tried to do it again, because my friends were like, how'd you get up there? And I was like, I don't know. And then I tried to do it again, and I couldn't make it. I had my one, my peak, my body peaked at the age of 17 and a quarter. All right.

So, Mike Greenberg's Dumb Rules. What do we have? For Mike Greenberg's Dumb Rules? Yes. Listen, I'm kind of squatting on this take. There's a new rule that's kind of flown under the radar in college basketball this year. They're calling it, like, the arm hook rule. So on a rebound.

Because that's what the college basketball needs, is more ways to get guys fouled out. Yeah. What we need is more ways to get stars fouled out and also more things that are subject to replay review. Oh, by the way, this one's both of them. Turns out the way to beat Duke or come close to beating Duke is just poke Zion in the eye and he just won't come back in the game. A little soft.

Yeah, very soft. A little soft, Hank. I want to see him wearing goggles. I think goggles will get a good look on him. I poked myself in the eye the other day, and I still came to work and played video games. He still watched television on the couch. I did everything. Some people are actually saying they played better without Zion on the floor.

Many people are saying that he's a space eater and he's a ball eater. All right, so what was the hook rule? So the rule is, if you hook someone's arm when you're going up for a rebound, that's a flagrant foul now. And it's subject to a replay review. It's like the soft. It's like barely even a foul. It's more reviews.

Yes, exactly. That's what I'm saying. It's two in one stone. You foul out star players, and you get lots of clock stoppages with three referees gathered around a 12-inch monitor trying to whack it on the side and figure out what's going on. Thank God that I watched College Basketball for the fundamentals, though, because otherwise I'd be fucked. It has nothing to do with my gambling problem.

No, absolutely none. But yeah, I guess this is like the Kelley-Olynyk rule. I think you just call anything the Kelley-Olynyk rule. The didn't. Oh, Purdue's guy broke his arm on it, right? Who did Kelley-Olynyk do that to? Kevin Love. Oh, that's right.

Yeah, so what? I'm just squatting on a take. Yeah, what is it? I'm going to squat on this take. This is going to cause absolute hell during the NCAA tournament. You're going to have stars foul out because of this weird flagrant foul thing. It's going to swing games, too. It's going to be awful.

Once people realize... Yeah, I mean, this sounds terrible. Once people realize how bad this rule is, it's going to be... The NCAA is going to be an apocalypse. It's going to be nuts. So we need it to happen in a Duke game like... Yes. No, no.

Hopefully not to... No, the only way it gets fixed before the tournament and doesn't ruin the tournament is it has to happen against Duke. So Coach Gay can zion... Zion to the Supreme Court like he always does. Zion fouls out. And get the rule changed in his favor. That's the only hope we have.

Otherwise, it would be a real shame if it negatively affected Duke in the tournament. Well, they're not going to lose this year. It'd be a very, very real shame. It doesn't really matter. No one's beating them, right, Hank? No. I've seen them. A fun little behind the scenes on Saturday.

Big Cat, can I talk about the text chain? Oh, yeah. Yeah, sure. This was fun. Big Cat texted Hank like, I'm so sorry about Duke's loss with like a second left in the game. Well, when I texted that, it was... Look at that.

No, they called it FSU's ball. So I got a little ahead of myself. I texted before the replay. Yeah. And there was a, I don't know, 25 minute replay. Yeah, so long. And then Duke had a wide open shot to hit it and win. So, fuck Duke.

Whatever. Coach K-Cheats. Everyone knows it. Hank, your drunk idea, please. Okay. It's happening. Oh, you're ex... Hold on.

Hank's excited about this. And I'm excited now because Hank's excited. I mean, you know how a drunk idea is going on. Way to sell us. On Friday night, I had a few, few glasses of sheesh at dinner. Uh-oh. A little bit of hot leaf to top it off. What color is sheesh?

Red. Okay. Hot leaf, huh? Nice Italian restaurant. Hot leaf. What's hot leaf? What is hot leaf? Oh, why don't you just say weed, dude?

Cannabis. Why don't you just say you fucking, you smoke that bone. I was in my bathroom. You ripped that split. I was doing my nightly duties. Uh-huh. And it kind of came to me. Both of these things, they look the same.

Basically the same packaging. This, I like where this is going. Combine them into one. I like where this is going. Nyquil. Okay. Listerine. Yes.

Yes. Okay. No. Wait, hold on. They both have alcohol in them. Yes. You can swallow listerine. Hank, this is actually, you need, okay.

You need to do it further though. You need the day, you need the day quill listerine for the morning and the night quill listerine for night. I thought you were going to say combine day quill and night quill. No, no, no. You have your day. That solves a lot of problems, too. It was just called your day drink and your night drink.

That's perfect, Hank. I totally agree. Lister quill. Lister quill it is. Nisterine. Why do you use listerine before you go to bed? What do you mean? You brush your teeth and...

No, I mean, I do too. I'm just, I'm wondering why we've all been programmed to do that. Because you're supposed to. Yeah. Don't ask questions. Just do it. Okay. That's what I'm saying.

And they look exactly the same. Like it's like the same packaging, basically. Yeah. They are both bluish. Plastic bottles, yeah. Fuck, Hank. So instead of squal- You did it, man.

Yeah. You did it. I'm proud of you. Damon, John or E-Rot or any of our other entrepreneurial listeners are out there. Like, let's make this happen. Do you fuck around with Z quill? Oh, yeah. Z quill?

Oh, yeah. That's his big cat thing. I don't... I love Z quill. This is a quill. This is a quill. Yeah. No, I'm all about that shit.

Because I... You know, you just ride... When you ride the bull as late at night as we do, it's hard to get off the bull sometimes. Yeah, it absolutely is. So you just ride the bull all the way to the Z quill. Actually, that's... Hank, now we're talking. It's a ha...

It's like, you know, when you get a Guinness and... What is it? Black and blue? Black and tan. Black and tan. We need to have the top half as a red bull. The bottom half is Z quill. So you just keep drinking.

Yeah. You're like, all right. I want to... I got to get hyped up for... This is... Let me back up for the podcast. This is a very particular audience we're gearing it towards. It's just us.

It's not for everybody. It's for anyone who works at Sunday night at midnight and needs to go to bed. We're making it exclusive. After. More people want it. So you drink half your red bull and then, boom, you keep drinking. You've been drinking Z quill. Mm-hmm.

I like that a lot. And then you fall asleep on your train home like Bubba and then get beat up and come in and be like, sorry, guys. And also put Cody in it. Yeah. Just like take the edge off. Mm-hmm. Yep.

Yeah. This is perfect. I just came up with an invention. And then at the very bottoms... It's listerine except it's got heroin in it. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

Now we're talking. And bacon. Everything's better than bacon. And the bottle cap tastes like sriracha. And at the bottom of it, once you finish the whole thing, it's just a cute puppy. Mm-hmm. So now it's everything. Mm-hmm.

A gun ball, like those ice cream things. 17 times our drug drink was everything. I'm actually going to look into this heroin listerine concoction. Hank, we should... Let's get a prototype. Let's... Tomorrow, let's mix some listerine and some nickel. We'll bring it home with her.

Everyone bring it home. We'll... We'll catalog our experiences. Yeah, right. On ArrowWid. Do you guys ever fuck around with that website? Wait. Do you?

Wait. Hold on. That's a wild one. Hold up. I spit out listerine. Okay. Thank God. I just caught me.

I was like, hold on. Do you trick listerine? No. This invention... I have to... You're the man who eats and swallows gum. So I had to ask. In the invention, they would have to develop the technology where the nickel just like...

You resorb it with your like... Yes. Yeah, with your cells. Oh, like through your gums? No, you can swallow listerine though. Yeah, but... Yeah, but... You shouldn't swallow a lot of it, but you can.

I don't think it'll kill you. You can swallow anything. No, that's true. Yeah, that's what... No. Nope. No, if you listen to Caller Daddy, you can't swallow this. I've swallowed gasoline before.

That was fun. Really? Yeah. How'd that happen? I was trying to siphon gas for my moped in college. Badass. And... That's it.

That sentence got so much cooler as the longer it went on. Dude, siphon and gas... Here's a little tip for everyone out there. If you're trying to siphon gas off of someone else's moped to fill up your moped, it comes out really fast. So, just a little tip. Maybe you're just really good at... It just fucking...

It just blasted it. Big cats lips touch that tube and immediately just liquid shoots out. Yeah. I swallowed probably... Gluckluck 9000 City. I probably swallowed 4 ounces of gasoline. That was bad. You get nice little buzz on that.

It's a little high. Yeah. Sweet. That's actually the best drug in Russia. But you can... No, that's crocodile. That's like melt, codeine. Yeah.

Russia and Juliette, Illinois. Yeah. The only two places in the world that do crocodiles. But yeah, Hank, you can swallow listerine. Yeah. So, all right. See you on Wednesday. Love you guys.

I love the idea. I'm getting there when you must be thinking about my tongue. Oh, your clit and switching back and forth. Switching back and forth from my day to my tongue. Day to my tongue. Switching back and forth from my day to my tongue. I'm getting there when you must be thinking about my tongue. Oh, your clit and switching back and forth.

Switching back and forth from my day to my tongue. Day to my tongue. Switching back and forth from my day to my tongue. It's part of my take presented by Bar Stool Sports.