Pardon My Take - F1 Driver Daniel Ricciardo, Sixers Collapse, Fyre Fest Of The Week And Billy Is Back

Episode Date: June 18, 2021

The Bucks force a Game 7, Brooks off to a hot start, and the Sixers have an all time collapse (1:59 - 25:20). We talk some more NBA and NHL playoffs and other things going on in sports (Bears maybe mo...ving & Mavs imploding) (25:20 - 38:49). F1 Driver Daniel Ricciardo joins the show to talk racing, Australia, party shirts and tons more (38:49 - 83:20) . We finish the show with Fyre Fest of the week and Billy Football's triumphant return.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, ad-free, on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, we have an awesome interview with Daniel Ricardo, F1 driver, Australian, cool-ass dude. We have NBA Playoffs, Sixers, Disaster, Firefest of the Week, and the return of Billy Football. At the end of the show, we will explain Billy's return. We're excited for it.
Starting point is 00:00:33 We're happy to have him back. It feels like the family is all back together, so get excited for that. Also, a couple of Madden codes. Make sure you listen. Before we get to all that, we are brought to you by our friends at New Amsterdam Vodka. Make sure you head to your local liquor store and pick up the new summer co-branded New Amsterdam Vodka bottle. The same extra smooth, 80-proof vodka now with custom Barstool labels made from some of
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Starting point is 00:02:22 Today is Friday, June 18th, and Reggie Miller was right. Hashtag. Hell yeah. I went to rest the guys for Game 7 too. Get a head start on next year. Yeah, so if you forgot, Reggie Miller basically said after Game 5, rest Kevin Durant, James Harden for Game 7, don't even play them. They played.
Starting point is 00:02:46 They lost. They put up a good fight. There were some times where it felt like the Nets were getting back into it. They cut it for like 5, 6. But the other headline is it was Chris Middleton's legacy game. What? It was a surprise legacy game. 38 points.
Starting point is 00:02:59 This was almost like a foundation game for him. I think a legacy game you have to have, like there has to be talk about your legacy before that. Yeah. This one was establishing legacy. So right now anything less than 38 points in a playoff game is disappointing from Chris Middleton. Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:14 But it looked really good tonight. The Nets really, it was never in jeopardy after that first quarter. We felt like this was going to happen. It's weird because obviously we're rooting for Blake. But I kind of, in my mind, I was like Reggie Miller is a stupid point you have to try because you never know what's going to happen. But I always thought this was going to go 7 and Saturday night it's going to be electric and it's going to be fun to watch.
Starting point is 00:03:36 I always respect a crazy take. Yeah. It's nice to see the people out there still willing to push the envelope. Just like throw some shit out on Twitter. Give us a little red meat. Reggie gave us fodder. So we applaud him for that. Blake Griffin had the highest plus minus of any of the Nets starters tonight.
Starting point is 00:03:51 That's true. With a minus seven. That's fast. It's a great game. Maybe a legacy game by Blake. Yeah. Started something special. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:59 And the Dojo was rocking tonight outside in Milwaukee. Yeah. I was thrown down dunks. Yeah. Yeah. This was really awesome too. Which I, I didn't want to call it a legacy game for you. I'm addicted to legacy games.
Starting point is 00:04:10 But I do think that Yanis had to, they had to win this game otherwise because like if you lose in game seven and Kevin Durant does what he did in game five, there is some. I know it's always terrible to lose that way. But there's some peace in like that guy is way better than anyone we have. That guy might be the best player in the NBA. He had 30 and 17. Right. Like if it happens that way, you can live with it.
Starting point is 00:04:35 If you lost game six on your home court after James Harden gets hurt, game one, Kyrie Irving gets hurt, game three or four, whatever it was, that's like a dig deep soul searching. What are we doing here? Yeah. So game seven Sunday, right? Saturday. Saturday night. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:52 We going to go? Yeah. Maybe. Hmm. Game seven. Got Margarita. Oh no. Shit.
Starting point is 00:05:00 Dude. Fuck. What the fuck? That's a preview of a firefest. My bad. I've been talking about it for so long. You can't go from the two sweetest words in the English language, game seven, to the two worst words, Margaritaville's closed.
Starting point is 00:05:13 Yeah. Fuck. My bad. My bad. Either way, game seven and hopefully we'll have. Yeah. Sorry. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Bryson sucks today. Yeah. Bryson does suck. Let's talk about that real quick. Bryson sucks today.
Starting point is 00:05:29 Brooks is awesome. Bryson sucks. Brooks was tied for the lead. He had a couple of bad bogeys on the bat. Okay. And then because Bryson didn't want to play with Brooks because he's too big of a pussy to do it, he had to play with a harder course in the afternoon, which basically skull fucked him.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Also Bryson illegal. I'm calling illegal. They were interviewing Brooks after his round and Bryson jumped up into the back of the screen. You can't do that and then be like, I don't want any part of this. You can't do it. You can't have it both ways. If you want no part of it, you literally just pretend Brooks doesn't exist and never
Starting point is 00:06:02 mention it again and everyone will leave you alone. Game on, dude. Look at this. Watch this video. Watch. Let's see. He jumped up in the screen. Look at this.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Look, alternate angle. You can't do that. He jumped up in the back of Brooks. You want this, dude. It's the only thing that keeps you relevant. And I also, I learned a cool new golf term today that I'm going to be overusing this entire weekend. That's a US open par.
Starting point is 00:06:26 So if you're, if you run into trouble and you get up and down or maybe you're driving into the rough, hit a nice iron into the green and you just kind of grit your way to a par, that's a US open par. Yes. I love it. I love it. That's a US open par. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Let's talk about the Sixers. Hey, do you want to do a victory lap? Who, boy? No, I don't know. This has nothing to do with me. I have some numbers that I wrote down. Let's do the numbers and then we'll, we'll go, we'll jump off of there. So the stat that jumped out to me was in the, in these playoffs, teams are 46 and one when
Starting point is 00:06:59 they're up 15 points going into Sunday. So starting this week, the Sixers have now lost two games this week where they were up 15 points. They were up. I think they're the only, it only happened one time before this and it happened twice last week. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Yes. No, he's playing dumb. Yeah. He's, he's, he's, he's really, I was just clarifying to make sure I was absorbing information correctly this season. Right. This post season. This post season.
Starting point is 00:07:28 46 and one. No, 46 and one this post season, I should have put a trigger warning at the start of this. If you're a Sixers fan, Hank is going to look like Randy Marsh. The spooky. Yes. Hank is going to really stick it into you. So 46 and one, uh, when a team has, has been up by 15 during a game, uh, and then this
Starting point is 00:07:48 week, the Sixers have lost two games where they're up by 15 points. They were up by 26 on Wednesday night. They were up by 24 with less than two minutes to go in the third quarter. Uh, they got outscored in the fourth quarter, 40 to 19. They got outscored in the second half, 69, 44. They gave up 69 points in the second half. Like they, like this is one of the best defensive teams in the NBA and they got absolutely torched.
Starting point is 00:08:15 We'll get to the offense, but it should be noted that their defense was really, really, really bad against the Hawks on Wednesday night. This was atrocious, but it's also because they pulled two of their best defensive players out of the game in the third quarter. The game was over as far as Doc Rivers was concerned and Smitty and Smitty was concerned in the third quarter. So they take out and be, they take out Simmons and they, I'll put it this way. Shake Milton, shake Milton was getting Ben Simmons's minutes with four minutes left in
Starting point is 00:08:42 this game. I, I say again, shake Milton was in the game. He must have been fouled. Okay. So, all right. So, so, so more stats. So, so even off of that, in the second half, the only two players to score a field goal for the Sixers was Joel Embiid and Seth Curry.
Starting point is 00:08:58 That's, that's very, very bad when only two guys score a field goal, um, Ben Simmons. So I actually asked Hank before, I was like, what do you think Ben Simmons is shooting from the free throw line? This, these playoffs, he gets 60%. It's 32.8%. He's shooting 30% from the, from, from the free throw line in this series. I've got an idea for how he could fix that big cat. Oh, don't do that again.
Starting point is 00:09:22 No free throws. What? Free throws. He, I, I, this is how bad Ben Simmons has been. I think, I think he might be right handed. Yeah. Has he thought about that? Well, I saw, I saw a very mean tweet.
Starting point is 00:09:33 The ball goes the other way. I saw a very mean tweet out there and I am not, I am not going to retweet it. I'm sure Hank will go find it after this, but it was a very funny tweet. It said, if you ever feel useless, useless, remember that Ben Simmons wears a shooting sleeve and that is a very funny tweet, but I'm not going to retweet it because I'm still rooting for the Sixers to win this series. You know what? We're not going to give that tweet a platform whatsoever.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Nope. Not at all. Um, he, Ben Simmons, here's a good stat about Ben Simmons. You ready for this? Ben Simmons is three for three from the field in the fourth quarter. Oh wow. In the series. Oh no.
Starting point is 00:10:07 So he's only shot three attempts in the fourth quarter in the series. Two of them was in game one. So in the last four games, he has shot one time from the field in the fourth quarter. That's your point card. I can't. 100% though. That's, that's pretty good. Three for three.
Starting point is 00:10:23 Three for three. I mean, that is great. He's actually on fire. Yeah. By NBA Jams terms. I don't understand how you can have a superstar that doesn't shoot, that can't score. And don't get me wrong. Like he's a great defender.
Starting point is 00:10:36 He really is. He's, he's fun to watch with the ball in his hands. He's a playmaker. Triple doubles. Triple doubles. Yeah. He, he also, Ben Simmons, this is how bad Ben Simmons has been. He made me go look up what a stat was.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Usage rate. Because he has a lower usage rate than Dwight Howard, who basically is in there for lobs. Oh, Dwight Howard also had maybe the funniest missed dunk of the postseason. It was, it was horrific. It was Travelle McGee-like in how badly he missed that drunk. It was such a bad fourth quarter. And if you're, if you're a Philadelphia 76ers fan, my first question is, why are you listening to this podcast?
Starting point is 00:11:08 I would be off the internet. I would not consume any media. I wouldn't watch television just in the off chance that like, I wouldn't watch HGTV in the off chance that there might be a commercial for game six that pops up. I, it's, it's tough if you're a sixers fan to the point where like it makes you question the last 10 years of your life. Well, that's the problem. It's not just the loss.
Starting point is 00:11:30 It is the entire process because the process has been built around and the end, you know, you could point to Markel Foltz and never becoming anything, you know, not drafting, drafting him over Jason Tatum, all these points, but like the process was built around Ben Simmons and Joel Embiid at the end here. They didn't trade Ben Simmons for James Harden, which I think most sixers fans would probably go back and do. If you could do that all over again. They also, I thought about it today, I was like, you know who they really could have
Starting point is 00:11:56 used in that fourth quarter, J-butt. And they could have used J-butt and they use J-butt's money for Alfred played pretty well. Yeah. Now he's been sitting at home, you know, running out of his contract for the thunder. I, it's so bad and I really do. I, I, I feel like the sixers still have a shot in this. I know that's crazy to say.
Starting point is 00:12:18 I don't know why. I think the one tonight. I don't know why. I think the problem is I, every game I watched Joel Embiid and I'm like, he's got this. And then I forget that in the fourth quarter and I know he had 37 points. He was basically your entire offense with Seth Curry, but he's now one for 10 in the fourth quarter in the last two games. He like basically just falls down every single play when he gets tired and that, those two
Starting point is 00:12:45 missed free throws. And yes, he's not a bad free throw shooter. Those two missed free throws were very bad and I just don't know what you do. If you're a sixers fan, this is like, I think honestly, if you, if I were a sixers fan this morning or Thursday morning, I got something they should do. I would be firing up the trade machine and seeing how many picks you can get for Joel Embiid and Ben Simmons to just restart the process because guess what? The process, it's bad basketball.
Starting point is 00:13:11 It's terrible to lose that much, but at least you got hope. And right now, if the sixers lose this series in six, hope is gone. Hope is out the window. You throw hope out the window and that might be the worst fate for any sports fan. Right. To Philadelphia sports fans credit, they have been extremely patient by and large with the process. This is the season that it was all put together, but like most other fan bases would not have
Starting point is 00:13:32 tolerated. They kind of embraced it. They're like, Sam, Sam Hinky died for this. He died for a sense to make us happy in the long term. And now it's like, can Doc Rivers, can he bench himself for the next game? I don't know what to do. I think he deserves a lot of credit too. He is also like sneakily the all time greatest basketball coach at choking away fourth quarter
Starting point is 00:13:50 victories in the playoffs. And also series leads in the playoffs. Seriously. Like doc, this is like a habit for 2015. Remember that Rockets Clippers series? Yeah. It's poetic that it came against an Atlanta team when you look at the wind probability that popped up.
Starting point is 00:14:05 It was 99.7, which as we all know, wind probability is an ironclad stat. It's backed up by numbers. It's never wrong. But this is straight out of the Atlanta Falcons playbook of last year against the Cowboys. And it's like you either die an eagle or you live long enough to become a falcon. And the hawks, right? So people are like, Hey, why don't you talk about the Hawks? And we will talk about the Hawks, but you have to admit this story is about the Sixers
Starting point is 00:14:31 because they've choked these two unfathomable leads and like they have they have lost in horrific fashion. I that fourth quarter, it was bizarre to watch not really not really because Ben Simmons is your point guard and you can't shoot, but it was bizarre in the fact that like you just couldn't believe as it was happening, you're like, this is really happening. There's nothing they can do. They have no one who can go get their own basket. And I know like you dumbing down like how the NBA works, but you need that guy.
Starting point is 00:14:59 You need that one guy who's like, fuck everything, I'm going to go get it, or I'm going to create it like Trey Young and credit to the Hawks because Trey Young has been phenomenal, their team's been phenomenal, resilient. And so much so, you know what we're starting to see? This is coupling with the Luca de Baco, where everything seems to be falling apart temporarily in Dallas. We're seeing now where the Hawks right for taking Trey Young and not Luca Donchich. So there you go.
Starting point is 00:15:28 That means that's really when you know that you got a good one. When we're doing the revisionist history, when really it's going to just flip flop depending on who lasts longer in the playoffs every year for the rest of their career. Yeah. Can I have permission to say something in a bonk free zone? Because this to me, this is like the only analogy I could come up with is that Ben Simmons, like you have a star player, a superstar player who can't shoot, is like it's having a porn star that can't come.
Starting point is 00:15:54 I mean that is a bonk because if that's the only analogy you can think of. It's the most perfect analogy ever, like yeah, he'll go down, he'll put his head down and he'll give you some hard minutes out there and he does all the stuff that doesn't show up in that scene. But you can fake that. You can make stuff happen that. You can make stuff happen that. He can't fake not being able to shoot.
Starting point is 00:16:10 You can't fake a money shot. I mean, okay, all right, sure, all right, yeah, that's. I think it plays. Wait, what? You could do a stunt cock. You could do a stunt cock. Girls fake it all the time. I'm born.
Starting point is 00:16:20 I'm not. I'm not talking about a girl porn star in this case. Oh, yeah. How about the analogy of just like you have a like shooting is probably the most just a porn star, which could be boy or girl. Yeah, shooting is the most important thing and it's a maker misleague shooting a basketball into a hoop. Not to really dumb it down, but I would say that's the most important thing.
Starting point is 00:16:40 Like if you really wanted a player, you'd be like, Hey, I hope this guy at the end of the day, if he could dribble, if he could do everything else, play defense, I really would like him to be able to put the ball in the hoop when needed. He can't do that. Well, assists are great. And to quote Rick Riley, it's not basketball. It's basketball. Yes.
Starting point is 00:17:00 Something I've always wondered about basketball. Why do they even call them free throws? Because they should be free. They're not free. Geez. I don't want to do a free throw debate again. But if you were to get down to it and just to clean up the free throw thing, I did find the rule.
Starting point is 00:17:12 It's further down in the listing that says there is a plain rule. So just want to clear that up. We did say that. Only one of us said that. You know it like five times. No, we didn't read the plain rule though. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:17:22 So Hank, you have carte blanche right now. Say whatever you want to say. Go at it. Do it. Because we know you have a lot of things you want to say. No. I mean, I said it all. It's just one of those things where it's stunning how bad they are in the fourth quarter.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Joel Embiid, he's one of those guys. He goes for stats. He tries to get all the points. In the beginning, doesn't realize he has a low, you know, a low tank and then the fourth quarter is out of gas. Like you would think after game four, he would be like, hey, maybe I should conserve some energy for the fourth quarter because I know my point guard is going to be on the bench because he can't shoot.
Starting point is 00:17:50 And every time they were doing a hack of Simmons with like seven minutes left. So you would think he would save some energy. He didn't. It's just crazy when they're coming down the last two minutes and you just, you get that feeling like it's like a high school team when the star players on the bench and there's no one that can get offense and you just know that the game is going to go bad. Yeah. The ball just keeps like falling out of their heads.
Starting point is 00:18:09 I really team when it's like two, two, the series is tied to close game to have your home fans booing. That's got to hurt. I love that because that's Philly and I love Philly. I feel I actually genuinely feel bad for me to fans. No, you don't. I do. I feel bad for them because it's more than just a loss.
Starting point is 00:18:26 It's a horrific loss on surface level, right? But it's also the process and it's also Ben Simmons is one of those guys. We talk about all the time where fan bases have players where they will defend and the rest of like national media in the world will say, Hey, maybe there's some holes in this guy's game like shooting a basketball, right? Like just basic level things and you end up, if you're a Philly fan, defending him through thick and thin and when he doesn't show up in those crucial moments, you just basically have to sit there and eat shit.
Starting point is 00:18:59 So I, I hope it goes seven. You can't spin zone it. You know, if you're a Philly fan, like it sucks having a point guard that can't score. That's that's one element that we would like very much in this game. I also understand why they defend him because he's an awesome player. Right. He's really good, but you can't be giving up what would, how, how big was the lead? It was 26 and they were up 24 with less than two minutes to go in the third quarter.
Starting point is 00:19:21 You can't do any of that. It's also can't have that in the playoffs. I actually think if I were Ben Simmons, like strategy going into game six, I would just shoot all the time in the fourth quarter because I really do believe if Ben Simmons went one for seven in the fourth quarter, it would be better than shooting one time in the last four games in the fourth quarter. Like that's so, that's basically giving up. I mean, you're not even, you're just resigned to the fact that you can't play at this level
Starting point is 00:19:50 of the playoffs when things get tighter, teams know each other better and everything's like, Hey, you got it. Someone's got to make a play here. I don't know. I just, he, and it really is like the meanest thing to have a guy who can't shoot from the field and also like can't, like the one thing Ben Simmons can do is he's good around the rim. So, but he doesn't want to go get contact because then he has to go to the free throw
Starting point is 00:20:14 line and he'll miss those. If you were Ben Simmons, put yourself in his head right now and you know that you can't shoot. You know that you're going to make, I don't know, 20% of your open, like, are relatively contested, not like wide open shots. I'm talking like a normal, a shot that you would create for yourself and know that you'll make about 20% of those. Would you do anything differently in the fourth quarter?
Starting point is 00:20:33 I would shoot. Would you? Because, because on one, on one hand, I think maybe I would, but then on the other, I think that it's, it's maybe a smart idea for him to not shoot when he knows that he's not going to, it's actually like really unselfish for him to not shoot. And then in that case, who does the blame fall to? That's Doc Rivers for keeping a guy in the game that you know cannot and will not score with a basketball.
Starting point is 00:20:57 I'd actually fake an injury. I should say that. Yeah. I'm a coward. I would absolutely fake an injury the start of every fourth quarter and be like, oh, next game, I'm good to go. Or just fake an injury every time you're on offense. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:06 So this is Doc Rivers. The other thing, if you're a Philly fan, you're like, oh, well, at least we have a good coach, you know, playoff experience. 2009 Celtics up three to two on Orlando, loses series. 2010 Celtics up three to two on Lakers and NBA Finals, loses series. 2012 Celtics up three to two on the Heat and Eastern Conference Finals, loses series. Clippers 2013, three to one Grizzly, loses series. Game seven at home, 2014 Clippers blow 15 point lead in game five versus Oklahoma, end
Starting point is 00:21:30 up losing series in six, 2015 the Clippers blew a three one lead, 2016. That one was a bad one. The Clippers up two to nothing on the Blazers lose series four to four straight losses. They lost game seven at home to the Jazz. And last year they blew a three one lead to the Nuggets. So there's some, some of those can't feel good if you're a Sixers fan. Some of those weren't like some like 2012, like LeBron was like, you know, at the height of his power and the refs.
Starting point is 00:21:54 Yeah. Yeah. And the, and isn't the, wasn't the, the NBA needed the, the NBA needed the Heat to win that championship. One of Celtics Lakers, Kendrick Perkins got hurt. So there's some injuries in there, but like, there's a few, the 2015 one was a really bad one. It actually makes it a little bit worse this year, knowing that the, the championship
Starting point is 00:22:13 is kind of wide open for the Sixers to take. This is the year. This is the year that it has to happen. They don't even have an injury that they can blame it on. They can say like Joel Embiid might be banged up, who knows how, how torn his meniscus is, but yeah, this is the year like every other team has significant injury issues. And this was the year that you could do it. And I, I do hope that they come back and they win at least one more game, just so that this
Starting point is 00:22:36 is not like, because if they lose another game, then going into next year, you almost have to blow something up or you have to find something in your backyard and blow it up and be like, that's the issue. We're going to try some different. If you end up winning one game after it, then I think you can make the case that we're going to give this another shot next year. Maybe with like some minor tweaks, maybe you get a player that can shoot the basketball in the fourth quarter.
Starting point is 00:22:58 And I'm not going to like truly rag on Joel Embiid because he's fantastic. He finished second in MVP voting. He, people, I mean, the argument is there that if he played all the games this year, which the best available abilities availability, but if you played all the games this year, he probably would have been MVP. I don't blame Joel Embiid. I blame the roster construction of, and the fact that in today's NBA, your best player can't be a center in the fourth quarter.
Starting point is 00:23:24 When you need guys who can make their own shot, like at all times, around him, so like it's hard to play center when your point guard can't shoot. What if you have a guy that you had a couple of years ago, pretty good in shooting named JJ Redick. You have a team. Yeah. Jimmy Butler would have won that game. I'm convinced.
Starting point is 00:23:41 He's just, he's that type of dog that you need like the fuck you. I'm going to win this game. I don't care. That type of guy you need. As a sports con, sports podcast were legally obligated to mention LeBron James during any basketball discussion. Did you notice during Katie's explosive game where he went off for 49 last time, Kevin Durant or LeBron tweeted in the middle of it about the kid from Akron 17 out of 18 years
Starting point is 00:24:05 getting all NBA like in the middle of Kevin Durant's quarter. Nice. Nice. Had to toss that. And he switched his number back. All right. Let's talk some other NBA. So I am rooting for the Sixers.
Starting point is 00:24:16 I know Sixers fans. I have somehow, I think I've gotten a combo of I did have a really bad tweet where I was like the Sixers are really, really good during game four. What's wrong with that? And also with that tweet. Also Mike, because I'm deemed a jinx and then also, which I'll admit I have terrible in the moment opinions. And also I think just the halo effect of Hank being our producer means that we get some
Starting point is 00:24:39 ire online. I am rooting for them. I like, I don't. Fox fans will get mad at this. I'm rooting for the Sixers to win game six. I probably will root for them to win game seven because I think that's a fascinating story. And I think the Hawks probably have a long, like Trey Young's gonna be great for a really
Starting point is 00:24:53 long time. I think with the Sixers big cat, you're like, you're a sponge for their, for their hatred. Yeah. I'll own it. I'll carry it for you. Yeah. You're a sponge. Hank is like a tied up dog.
Starting point is 00:25:04 And if one of those links gets broken, he's gonna, he's gonna take all the abuse out right on his hand. He's like, I can't believe this is happening. I can't wait to tweet. No, I was just, I was stunned. I was literally stunned. Yeah. All right.
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Starting point is 00:26:52 Well guess what? He just went 37, 16 and 5 in Utah, played incredible defense, put the team on their back and similar to, like Donovan Mitchell's heart, but similar a little bit to Simmons like Rudy Gobert is a great player but offensively he's a little challenged and they basically went small and didn't play, the Clippers didn't play a center, basically the entire game and they've kind of figured out how to beat the jazz. So Playoff P gets the credit, like he deserves credit. He gets so much shit, that was a really, really great game and he deserves a lot of credit
Starting point is 00:27:26 being like, hey he does show up in the playoffs, here's this game. Did you guys ever know a kid when you were little that dealt really poorly with anger that, like when they get really mad they would almost look like they were about to cry? They would like not say a word, they'd internalize it and just get like their face would start twitching and they'd get almost sad with how angry they were. That's what Playoff P has looked like the last couple of games, when it's like on him to do everything and he knows that everybody's at home being like, oh they're calling me Pandemic P, they're calling me Playoff L, Playoff Poo Poo, you name it.
Starting point is 00:27:58 And so he's, I think he's internalized a lot of that but he's actually like, he looks more explosive than he has in the last couple of playoffs. And he's got a moment because Kawhi, I don't know, Kawhi's got to be the one guy who like when he gets, I kind of respect it, like when he gets injured, I feel like he's just like, yeah I'm injured, I'm done. And am I saying that soft? I'm not saying it's soft, I just honestly think that he, he's just like, yeah I'm not going to be good if I'm playing with this knee or I'll get more hurt instead of like
Starting point is 00:28:27 trying to get out there and gut it out. It fits in with his personality, being a robot where it's like, okay there's an error code in the software, the rest of it, it's just not going to run, listen, there's nothing I can do about it, you've got to fix this thing and then the rest will work. And it's weird because it went Kawhi News, or no, sorry, it went Chris Paul News, Kawhi News, back to back, essentially making like the most wide open, ridiculous playoffs, LeBron again made it about himself by saying that he warned everyone. Yeah he did, but do you think that maybe there's a little Michael Jordan bad pizza situation
Starting point is 00:28:58 with Chris Paul? Like what if, my theory is, what if Rudy Gauberra dropped off a pizza at his hotel room and you know, Rudy likes to spread it around a little bit, which is microphones. Yeah, true, good point. Also just to push back a little bit on LeBron, like I know that it was a bad turnaround, but a quick turnaround for the league, they needed to make money because they have salaries that need to be paid and everyone, like it needs to keep going. So the guys who've got hurt, like Kyrie Irving, he gets hurt, Joe Embiid, he gets hurt.
Starting point is 00:29:32 Also Kyrie Irving happened to land on somebody's foot, Anthony Davis, he gets hurt, Donovan Mitchell already was hurt, Kawhi, he gets hurt, James Harden might be the only one, which I said incorrectly a couple of shows ago, James Harden does not get hurt, he got hurt, but like that's Chris Paul got COVID and he's got the vaccine. There are also just a bunch of players that didn't really play deep into the playoffs last year in the bubble. So yeah, I don't know, LeBron James very clearly wanted to just remind everybody that he told everyone this was going to happen ahead of time.
Starting point is 00:30:04 But guess what LeBron, again, I understand player safety is very important in all these things, but LeBron, you've made a lot of money, there's probably some guys who are like, hey, I'd like to get back and play and there's organizations that need to make money, I'm not trying to cape for the owners, because that's opposite of what I'm doing, bootlicker, but I do understand like you can't expect everything to keep running if you don't get back and play a season. Maybe a month would have fixed it. Who knows?
Starting point is 00:30:33 Yeah, I don't think, just looking at the names and then looking at the schedule of what happened last year in the playoff bubble, it doesn't scream out to me that there's any correlation there whatsoever, right, between playing those games and not having a big layoff. But I get that probably if you're a veteran that's been in the league for a while, that short rest sucked. Yeah. Like that's all you should just say that be like, listen, it sucks that we had to play this full season after taking what like three weeks off or whatever.
Starting point is 00:30:59 Yeah, that sucks. I agree. LeBron, I agree with you. That sucks. Chris Paul, though, getting COVID. I still, I actually, I'll throw it out there, doesn't the timeline match up? Well, maybe not, but let's just pretend that timelines don't matter. LeBron went to that tequila party, then they played the Suns, then Chris Paul got COVID.
Starting point is 00:31:16 I mean, yeah, I think timeline doesn't match up whatsoever. I do like to indulge in a bit of conspiracy thinking like Ernie Adams retirement. I don't think that he is retired. I think he's going to be. No chance. I think he's going to be Bill Belichick's like COVID guy. Yeah. That like, you know, he'll drop in and, you know, pass off a few injections, cough on
Starting point is 00:31:33 the right people, make sure that certain unvaccinated players aren't ready to play when they're going against the Patriots. Mm hmm. Agreed. That was great, though, that he got to do a press conference. Did you say anything of note? I think just him being there was of note. And why did he, why was it ending now?
Starting point is 00:31:49 Like before, I guess it is before, but why would it end at the end of last season? Yeah, I'm not sure about that. Because he probably helped out with the draft, right? Yeah, that's true. Draft free agency. Good point. Good point. He's never, he's not going anywhere.
Starting point is 00:32:00 No. He's just moved his, he's just working from home. Have you ever seen Homeland? Saul retires like every year, but he's still very much working for the CIA. Yeah. So is that still on? No. I think Carrie died at the end.
Starting point is 00:32:10 Oh, spoiler. No, she didn't. Oh, okay. She lived. Anti-spoiler. Anti-spoiler. All right. The Islanders lost our hockey minute.
Starting point is 00:32:20 The Islanders lost. That feels bad. Yeah. Serious is over. And the Canadians tied it up. Back to Canada. And that'll, that'll do it for the hockey. What was the guy's eyes bleeding?
Starting point is 00:32:30 Did you see that? Oh yeah. Yeah. That was weird. It looked like he was either high as shit. I think Billy said they looked like he bought Bitcoin and he had glowing eyes or somebody said that. Got it.
Starting point is 00:32:40 On Twitter. Yeah. But it was, it was really strange. It did look like he was going through like an exorcism. Yeah. It was a hockey guy. Upper body injury. My eyes are out.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Yeah. All right. So the, before we get to Daniel Ricardo, anything else that we got to get to before we have, well, Firefest on the other end and also the reintroduction of Billy football. The Bears did release a statement that they're putting in a bid to buy Arlington International racetrack, which is in Arlington Heights, about 30, 45, 30 miles, like 45 minutes outside of, you know, where Soldier Field is downtown Chicago. And everyone's actually, I don't think a lot of people are freaking out.
Starting point is 00:33:16 I actually think they should, it's smart of them. It's probably, they're probably just posturing to get a renovation of Soldier Field. It's for people who don't know, because I mean, I would assume people don't just know attendance off hand. The Bears have the lowest attendant, like the lowest capacity of any NFL team. It's a very old stadium. And it's the only, it's the biggest city that doesn't have two teams. So I just think that there's, there's something nice about an NFL team that has a stadium downtown
Starting point is 00:33:42 from somebody that doesn't actually live in that city or have to like deal with facilities on a day-to-day basis. So I'm sure there are lots of good reasons to move it out. But yeah, I just like the image when they do the blimp shot. Yeah. There's nothing like a blimp shot that shows the skyline afterwards. But the stadium is, they did a renovation, they did a band-aid in 20 years ago and it's already out of date.
Starting point is 00:34:03 They don't own their stadium. The Chicago Park District does. So that's also crazy. The McCasky's are thinking about selling it. So they are like, Hey, let's bid for this land and then we can sell it to someone who will build the new stadium. I honestly, a big new stadium that like attracts a big 10 championship game, final fours, all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:34:23 I'm kind of in for it. It's like a renovation that makes it better downtown, which also would work. It's like when, when Lucas Oil got built in Indianapolis, they called it the house that Peyton built. Right. Yeah. So what would your house that Mitch built? It would be Fields Field.
Starting point is 00:34:35 No, it's the house that Mitch built. House that Mitch built. I like it. You didn't chime in on the LeBron stuff for you. You feeling all right? Yeah. I was just curious because I would think that like on one hand, you're like, you guys think I'm just this un, un, unbashed hater that just only has certain things that I hate
Starting point is 00:34:50 unequivocally. And I don't have any, you know, type of rational takes. You're fair guy. On one hand, you'd be like, well, I hate LeBron. On the other hand, I love that he's advocating for more vacations. No. I mean, listen, it's that's LeBron 101 is when he loses, he makes up excuses and whatever fits his narrative.
Starting point is 00:35:08 You should teach LeBron 101 class. Yeah. Yeah. It's loose. And then he's going to put up a million Instagram stories, million Instagrams. Like all of a sudden he's going to be, I'm not going to, yeah, the Mavericks thing is weird too. That should be noted.
Starting point is 00:35:22 Like it feels, they're falling apart. It feels when there's that much reporting going on and Mark Cuban has to come out and be like, this is all fake. And then the coach resigns. It feels, they're just going to have to be, you know, it is out to photoshop season because everyone's photoshopping Luca, Luca, I retweeted someone who did it with the bulls. And then I saw some guy who I don't know how he, let me get his Twitter handle because I want to give the proper credit.
Starting point is 00:35:50 This guy, Kofi on Twitter said the Mavericks loss to the Clippers in seven and are down three nothing to the Atlantic, the, uh, the athletic, athletic, she happens. That's okay. Oh, at Oakley underscore MP3, uh, he should be the new GM of the bulls because he said I would offer Zach Levine and Vuchovic to make, uh, the Luca trade, which yeah, yeah, no, no, yeah, I would offer that to when people on Twitter, like, or online, you know, wherever they're discussing a team, they're like, Hey, I would offer these two guys for this incredible player, you know, it's no shit, dude.
Starting point is 00:36:29 You know what season is? It's NBA trade machine screenshot season because you can, you can make the most outlet. You can put like 12 guys and it's like, yep, this trade works. And it's like, well, it could happen. I hope that there is one GM in every league that is the annoying guy in fantasy football who just every week will offer you four bench players for like Patrick Mahomes and be like, but look at all the value you get. It's like, dude, where am I going to put all these people?
Starting point is 00:36:53 Where am I going to put these guys? Honestly, that's what they should do to the Sixers right now. The Sixers might be like, yeah, that works. Yeah. We're getting six guys and only giving up one statistically. Oh, I think the Sixers do the opposite. They should offer impede Tobias Harris and Ben Simmons for LeBron. Yeah, let's do it.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Why not? Why not? Why not? I would trust them a lot more if it was LeBron and Seth Curry running around. Hell yeah. Yeah. All right. Let's get to awesome interview, awesome interview. Daniel Ricardo, if you're not an F1 fan, doesn't matter. He's one of those guys, great accent, great stories, great dude.
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Starting point is 00:39:19 When you said that quote, were you like, this is ridiculous? It's funny when I see when I see like things played back, obviously like watching, watching the season like months after it's been shot. I'm like, oh, I really said that. I don't even know some of the dumb dumb stuff I say. So it's funny, but we're excited to have you on. We figured you were the number one guy that we could basically shout out and be like, he's too scared to come on and you would come on
Starting point is 00:39:50 because that's the type of personality you have. You are by far the most entertaining guy on on drive to survive. But did you see it right away? And you're like, all right, I got to I got to come on this guy's show because they called me out. Yeah, yeah, I I love I love a good call out. I respect it. So, um, yeah, no, it's good. It's good. I'm happy.
Starting point is 00:40:10 I'm happy to talk to some good American folk. So I'm very delighted to be here. And I'm glad I'm glad you guys liked like the series as well. And turning into some proper F1 fans. It's good. It's a great show. Yeah, I mean, like as people that I don't think we even ever paid attention to F1 until a few months ago, started watching it. It's addictive and you get drawn in by the story lines.
Starting point is 00:40:34 You get drawn in by the entire sport. Have you noticed a difference just from what you see as a driver when you got to the track? Is there a difference in like the fan base that's coming out now? Has it grown noticeably even over in Europe because of the series? Yeah, it's it's changed a lot. And like, I know, like there's some of us in the let's say in the F1 world. We're like, oh, some love it.
Starting point is 00:40:57 Some maybe don't love it as much, but you can't deny that it's completely elevated our sport and elevated our profiles all around the world. And I think it's just cool to, you know, like it's such a strange sport in terms of, you know, it's not something you grow up doing. Like not everyone goes up driving race cars and then getting to Formula One. And it's it's such a kind of closed sport. So to open it up and to bring like new people into it and just to I think just to show the sport off, you know, because it is so so unique, but also so amazing.
Starting point is 00:41:29 It's like I like that, you know, like the the show has given us that platform and Netflix has done that for us. So it's cool. What what you mentioned that there's some people who may not love the show or they're like traditional old school F1 people who are like, oh, this is showing too much or it's not about the rivalries. It's all about the race cars. Is that what is that kind of what the push and pull is?
Starting point is 00:41:51 I guess there's some of that. Like for sure, you know, like some of the rivalries might be a little, you know, there might be a little bit of sugar on the top of it. But it's like, yeah. So it's probably just that like the real purest like, oh, like, you know, I know these guys and they don't actually hate each other or whatever. But I mean, like, I'll be honest, it's pretty like some of it, again, might be a little heightened, but it is it does kind of demonstrate
Starting point is 00:42:16 pretty well what the sport's about. And also like the politics of it and all of that, even the rivalries, yeah, monks, not only drivers, but the teams and the bosses. It's it's pretty cool. All right. So you actually mentioned that they tried to make kind of create a rivalry between you and Carlos Sons and you said you you said, quote, I've probably got other guys that I dislike, you know, as opposed to Carlos.
Starting point is 00:42:40 So why don't you tell us who you dislike more than Carlos? Yeah, everyone. It has got to be weird, though, because it is a reality television factor of it, where the edits are going to make maybe some rivalries look bigger than they actually are. I would imagine there's a couple rivalries. Are there any rivalries that you have that you're like, I hope they don't figure out who I actually hate because now they're going to try to make this a story.
Starting point is 00:43:05 Yeah, there's there's probably some like I feel I mean, it's it's like we all obviously what we do is, you know, I guess pretty dangerous. So we all definitely have like a respect for each other. So like I respect each and every driver. But for sure, like we also come from very different walks of life, different parts of the world. And like so naturally, like we all don't maybe get along like best friends. But we're also trying to all take, you know, something from each other, you know,
Starting point is 00:43:38 and we're trying to beat each other and get get a title. So we're all fighting for the same thing. So it's like there's always going to be that intense rivalry and there will be people that you just don't get on with. But ultimately, like the one thing that we've chosen to do in life, like we all have that common passion. So it's weird. There's respect, but there's also a lot of yeah, I mean, I get on with a few of the
Starting point is 00:44:02 guys like I'm a pretty easygoing guy. But yeah, I mean, some some just I don't really have much in common with. Do you ever plan out a line that you're going to deliver? Like something that you think of maybe you're about to fall asleep at night and you're like, that would be fucking awesome. If I drop this line on somebody before the race tomorrow and then you say, you make sure the camera picks it up and then you watch the show a couple months later and you're like, why didn't they use my cool line that I thought of?
Starting point is 00:44:27 So I'll always it's normally during training like during training, I'll let like some of my emotion or aggression out and I'll be like, yeah, that's what I'm going to do. Well, that would be sick, but it's more just internal stuff in my head. I think like honestly, most of I would say like most of the shit I say on camera is very spontaneous and it's like, I don't know, I'm very like, I don't want to say I'm like quick-witted, but I do just normally just speak. What's what's on the tip of my tongue?
Starting point is 00:44:58 Yeah, if it's authentic, I think that's better. And it's going to come across anyways. If you like try to rehearse it, then it's going to be like, fuck, this is another line that he wrote down and people will start to like turn on you. But I think people like the fact that you you seem to enjoy living in that moment, getting to talk shit about somebody. It's great. I think that's where it's like, I feel obviously like I do realize I have a
Starting point is 00:45:19 like a I'd say a decent fan base, like a good fan base. And I don't I don't mean to blow smoke, but it's like, I think because I am or I definitely feel I'm very true to myself. And I think people can relate. Like if you're if you're authentic and you're real, then everyone can relate to, yeah, just the normal person who just goes about it. And like, I love what I do. And for sure, if I'm emotional, I'll show it.
Starting point is 00:45:42 And if I'm passionate, I'll show it. And if I don't like someone, I won't always probably say it. So I'll probably want to say it. But I think people get the pitch right. So we're authentic here on this show. And I don't think we'd be authentic. We wouldn't be doing our jobs as journalists if we didn't call you out on some stuff.
Starting point is 00:45:58 So I first and foremost, I want to address this. Your nickname is the honey badger. Number one, they don't have honey badgers in Australia. It's not endemic species to Australia. Kind of a fraud. That's number one. Number two, also he needs to have the honey badger here. I think you stole the honey badger from Tyran Matthew and you like, that's a cool
Starting point is 00:46:16 nickname. I want people to start calling me that. And then you started whispering to people, oh, you know, they call me the honey badger, right? Pretty cool, right? I hear that that's what they're saying about me. And then you tried to implant it artificially on yourself. Would you care to respond to those allegations?
Starting point is 00:46:29 I think I'm definitely more jacked than Tyran. I don't agree. I agree that you said that. Maybe your neck muscles. I don't know. I'm actually glad you said it. Yeah, but I don't I don't think he would agree. Yeah, I feel I would get squashed in an instant.
Starting point is 00:46:48 But yeah, so no, I mean, I can't I can't really counter that with much. I definitely adopted and what's the word? An animal from not my country. There's a word I'm looking for. But but yeah, like I do love the honey badger. I am also not to what's the word like possessive of it. Like I'm happy to share it. So Tyran wants it.
Starting point is 00:47:16 He can have it as well. It's very generous of you to offer it to Tyran. Yeah, the nickname he's had for like a decade. It's that's that's beautiful. Wait, so while we're talking about different animals in Australia, do you think I could fight a kangaroo and beat him up? Stand up for me. I'm like I'm six to a big boy to 40, 50, whatever.
Starting point is 00:47:39 I also can crush windpipes pretty easily. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you're jacked. Oh, yeah. I like you, Daniel. I'm wearing a black shirt. That's a little trick. Everyone's always like, hey, you look skinny. I'm like, no, I'm just wearing a black shirt. Yeah, you would you definitely give one a run.
Starting point is 00:47:58 The man's like, it's funny. So I've got a farm out in Australia and like this kangaroos all the time. But every time you approach them, they run away. Like I've never I've definitely never come even close to being confronted by one. But when you see some of the videos, like, yeah, they they're quite they're quite intimidating, but I think you'll cover it. I got you. What's it like just in general,
Starting point is 00:48:21 living in a country where everything can kill you? So are you talking about America? Well, he's in Monaco. Oh, I know. I got the royal family over there. It's funny you say it like, well, yeah, no. All the animals can kill you. Yeah. Of course, I got you. So it's weird because I'll be the first to admit
Starting point is 00:48:43 like I am terrified of animals, like especially Australian snakes, sharks, spiders, all of it. Like I'm not I'm not about that. But I think when you grow up kind of around it, you don't really you don't really think about it. So like we'll go walking out in the bush or go riding and go in the desert or whatever it is. And you kind of like, I don't know, you just don't really think about it. So maybe that's what growing up there does.
Starting point is 00:49:10 Like it kind of puts it to the back of your mind. But don't get me wrong. If I saw like if I come across a snake, I'm the first one getting out of there. Like I'm yeah, no. So you've never killed a snake? No, we had a theory on this show that everyone from Australia is killed a snake at some point. Yeah. Oh, no, I have. Yeah, of course, with with my bad hands, I actually ate the venomous part as well.
Starting point is 00:49:33 Squares like a Capri son. All right, I'm going to ask a racing question because I'm sure there's some people who are listening like how are you guys not asking them F1 questions. So you you made the switch to McLaren. I saw the quote that basically was like, he's Daniel's still learning the car. How like for the for dumb people out there, we see race car and we're like, all right, that race car is the same as that race car. How like what is the actual technical differences that are difficult to learn
Starting point is 00:50:04 from going from Red Bull to Renault to McLaren? So how do I say this without, I guess, boring? No, it's OK. Your accent makes anything like you could say anything boring. And people are like, that was sick. So just, you know, yeah, yeah, you got that. All right. All right. This is good.
Starting point is 00:50:23 So like so there is a set of rules within F1, but it's like there is also so much you can do with the cars. So like there's guidelines, but, you know, there's like the aerodynamics on a car are incredible and each team will have, you know, their own wind tunnels to figure out the best parts to put on the car and whatever, whatever. So like every F1 car is very different and it's a lot of the time it's how the aerodynamics on the car works. So some cars might be like respond better in like really fast corners.
Starting point is 00:51:00 So that's where they call it aerodynamics is like on point. But then others will be much better in like the tight hair pins and the slow corners. But then they might suffer a bit more in the high and it just depends where like call it where the profile peaks and where the profile like falls away. So that can just change simply like one car to another. And I think with the McLaren at the moment, it's let's say it peaks, call it at the very like entry of the corner. And if I'm used to something peaking later in the corner or whatever,
Starting point is 00:51:34 then I just have to adapt the way I break the way I turn into the corner and all these little things and then you've got setting the car up on top of that, you know, with suspension and all of this. But yeah, they can just have very different like characteristics is probably the best way to say it. That actually helped because it does. I mean, that that makes sense when it's like driving a new car and the split second differences can change everything.
Starting point is 00:51:58 What also I'm obviously a novice. I watched Drive to Survive. I think there's a lot of us there like we watched Drive to Survive. We've now watched a few races. This is sick, but we don't know anything about it. The tires, the soft, hard, medium, what like you use all different tires during a single race and when do you use different tires? And like, how does that work?
Starting point is 00:52:21 Yes, so there's there's five different compounds and each each race will get three. Like so, let's say formula one allocate three per race. And so, you know, like so the softer they'll give us the softer compounds on like more slippery circuits, like low grip circuits and the softer tire normally gives more grip. So that that like helps. But then more of like the higher speed, the the corners,
Starting point is 00:52:53 which put like a lot of energy and load through the car and through the tire. Then they'll give us the harder. They'll bring the harder tires to that race to give it a bit more durability. So on each weekend, we have three. For example, this race coming up, I think we have the three in the middle. So if you've got one to five, this race, we've got two, three, four. So it would be like a medium, a soft and a extra soft. I think it's called maybe ultra soft.
Starting point is 00:53:22 I don't know. So basically the softer the tire, the quicker it like warms up, the more grip you can get out of it, but the quicker it also falls apart and dies. So it's, I guess it's like, I mean, it's rubber at the end of the day. So you can think if the rubber is softer, it's it's going to stick and have more friction, but it also is going to piece up a lot quicker. It's it's actually the analogy, I would think, is it's probably like the different spikes football players wear on their cleats,
Starting point is 00:53:53 depending on how the surface is playing. Like if it's a muddy day, a rainy day, whatever. Like if it's field turf, they'll wear smaller cleats. So maybe that's how we we explained it. Well done. I like that. And you're a Bill's fan, right? Yeah, I am. I am. I've sadly never been to a game.
Starting point is 00:54:13 I'm like, call it I'm I'm a a distant fan, but I just want to be put to a table ultimately. Yes, we got to get you to Buffalo. You I mean, Josh Allen's our best friend. What's legitimately best friend? What's the schedule like for for F one in the fall? We need to get you out to a game. Yeah, I know I need I need to get to one.
Starting point is 00:54:32 And I know Josh has come out to a race and really, really nice guy, really nice guy, obviously amazing, amazing player. But but yeah, I think that as well. Like when I met him and I was like, this guy is really cool. And then all the Bill's mafia stuff, I was like, this is this is my team. But I love summer and I love I do not like the cold. I'm not built for the cold. So apparently Buffalo gets.
Starting point is 00:54:56 Yes. Yes. It's actually you would love it in September, early October. It's perfect weather there. It's actually the most perfect place on earth. But then once like late October hits, you're in a snowstorm almost all the time. OK, so when wins game one, what month is it September, early September? I think you guys drive in Austin in like October, which would actually be a beautiful time to go to Buffalo.
Starting point is 00:55:19 So if we can figure that out, that would be the way to do it. I mean, I would definitely put my hand up. If the schedule allows, I will be in Buffalo in October. Let's make it happen. All right, I'm going to work on the schedule. You ask your next question. OK, yes. So I'm going to get back to Daniel Ricardo in a second.
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Starting point is 00:57:30 Celebrate responsibly. Here he is. More Daniel Ricardo. We were talking about like the small stuff with the tires. It's interesting to me how like you can have a race car that costs 10, 15 million dollars and you can just have to quit the race. You have to withdraw the car because there's like one lug nut that doesn't work when you're trying to change a tire on it. What's the smallest mistake that has ever cost you a win?
Starting point is 00:57:54 So actually, yeah, my very first podium. So I finished the race second and it was in my it was in my home home race. It was the Australian Grand Prix back in 2014. And I know Australian had ever finished on a home podium. So it was like it was the biggest day of my career and probably like the biggest in Australian call it motor sport. And I then got disqualified hours after the race because it was a like fuel flow meter.
Starting point is 00:58:26 And the reading was like point whatever, point one, two high. And basically it was like a little technicality that I had no control over. And yeah, basically it cost me my position. But you got you got to celebrate on the podium, right? I did. So that counts exactly. I don't need I don't need the trophy on the points. Just give me the moment.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Give me the photos. What's the the culture like within F1 when it comes to like those small little things like is everybody basically just pushing the limits wherever they can get an advantage? Or is it has it become more rigid because you got Christian running around like yeah, running his mouth, telling on everybody. You got like you guys spoke to Christian, didn't you? Yeah, we did. Yeah, it's got to suck. You used to, you know, race for him and he was the tattletale.
Starting point is 00:59:15 Now he's tattling on you. He loves he loves a bit of chat. But now I got time for Christian, this funny. But so I think yeah, like with everything, everyone's trying to like push the limits and like your I want to say even as far as like bending the rules, like because ultimately everyone is trying to get that very last millisecond of lap time. But even like like that example in Australia,
Starting point is 00:59:47 I don't even think it was at the time the team being like clever or tricky. Call it it was just a something in a way that was out of our control. And it was it was the first race of the new like the hybrid era. So it was the first race of like the V6 engines with the with the electric motors and all of all the rest of it. And it was just a new system. And I don't think we'd call it calibrated it correctly or something. So that that one kind of sucked.
Starting point is 01:00:15 But pit stops as well, like pit stops can happen. Yeah, so I think that's one thing with our sport. And like as much as I love it and I've obviously made a career out of it, if I could do it all again, like I don't know if I would pick this sport because there's so many other variables and so much out of your control. You know, so you could like you could perform perfectly and you know, something might might end it for you. But I think then that makes the high so high, like when it all does work
Starting point is 01:00:43 and gel together and you win or get a podium, it's it's huge. Right. So speaking of that, the obviously it's so hard to get points in F1 and every, you know, completed race where you finish top 10 is an accomplishment. But is there ever a point where you feel a little ridiculous when like they'll maybe it's just on drive to survive. They, they, they like boost it up. But the guys will be celebrating and be like, that was mega. That was incredible. It's like P seven. They're like, wait, what? They finished P seven.
Starting point is 01:01:14 I thought he won the race the way they were celebrating. Or is it just you have to celebrate every time you score points. And that's just the reality of the sport. Yeah, it's so I've probably been that guy before as well. And the reason for it is, I guess it's pretty simple. Like so most seasons only maybe two or three teams could win a race just because their car is they've done such a good job and no one else is really on that on that level. So for other teams, maybe like a seventh place is
Starting point is 01:01:48 like the equivalent of a victory. Right. And that's so you can you can get that like satisfaction if you if you know, and as a driver and if you've been doing it your whole life, you know, if you got every little last bit out of that race and if it leads to a result like that, then it is it is worth celebrating. I mean, it's not obviously not a victory, but it's certainly recognized as a big result. That makes sense. Like the races, when you start farther back and you you climb up to P six, that's that's a victory.
Starting point is 01:02:18 Yeah, exactly. And I'm sure they measure everything that you do as a driver, especially with the simulators, they can probably keep track of like every every little bit that you've optimized every, you know, if you leave out a couple seconds here there, they can find out where you lost that time. Have they has it gotten down to the point where they can tell you if you're better at turning left or turning right overall? I mean, like, honestly, they could.
Starting point is 01:02:43 There's so much data they could. I mean, I grew up a NASCAR fan. So I would say naturally I would be probably better at turning left than right. Um, but yeah, I mean, I know you kind of maybe, I don't know if it was a joke question, but it was like, you could literally, I reckon they could find that and figure out the statistics for sure. Yeah. What's what makes, can you explain to us what makes a good party shirt, a party shirt?
Starting point is 01:03:12 Oh, all right. So it's, you know, when you see it, but it is, it is very, you know, like some, some people will wear, wear a call it party shirt, but it's not. It's like, it's an old Hawaiian dad shirt or something. And it just doesn't have whether, whether the buttons are too big or the flowers just aren't the right flower. I don't know. So you just know it when you see it.
Starting point is 01:03:40 But then when you see a good party shirt, oh, it's, it's magical. What, how many party shirts do you own? Like, like how many top tier, like I trust this party shirt for my best parties, party shirts do you own? I mean, I would own over a, definitely probably like 15. Okay. And I would be confident with a dozen of them. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:06 And is there one, there's one in your mind though, that you're like, this is, if I get invited to the number one A1 party, this is the party shirt. Oh, I mean, I recently got one with like these two beautiful unicorns on it. But I don't know if it's, I think they'll, I don't know if they're hot. No, they're unicorns, right? I think they're unicorns and it's like, it's just majestic. So that, that's, that's my newest favorite one. Do you feel like Superman going into the phone booth when, when you put on your
Starting point is 01:04:36 party shirt, you're like, okay, now it's like, have you ever put on a party shirt and it hasn't been a party? Yeah. Really? Just to take it for like a test drive? I was about to say exactly. If you're like a little bit apprehensive, you kind of, you, you, you, you warm it in, you warm it into the environment.
Starting point is 01:04:54 Um, but I think like most importantly, a party shirt, it's like, it's how you wear it. And if you wear it with confidence and if you also, if you don't take it too seriously, then it's good. You're going to pull it off nine times out of 10. I also just love the way you say party. Do you have an all time, do you have like an all time favorite? Maybe a shirt that you've worn out, had a great time partying in, and then you've
Starting point is 01:05:15 decided it's time to retire this one. Like great. You had a great career. Let's hang it from the rafters. Or do you keep a shirt like that around because that's now your lucky party shirt. I mean, that's such a good question. Um, so I, I mean, what, so as everyone probably thinks I'm always wearing these colorful party shirts, but actually when in doubt, I'm like, I just have my trusty
Starting point is 01:05:38 black t-shirt and that's like, that's my go-to. Um, and that's, that's obviously seen a lot of good nights out. So, um, I haven't retired it yet. It's still going strong. And I've probably had that one for, I think like 2015. So that one's, yeah, it hasn't shrunk too much in the wash. It's, that one's solid. That one's in some shit.
Starting point is 01:05:58 Yeah. If you ever want to retire a party shirt, you can send it to us. We'll frame it and put it up in our studio. Be like, you see that? That's Daniel Ricardo's party shirt. It's seen some shit. If you're going to go with, if you go with the black t-shirt though, I assume you have to have, you have to be having a good neck day to wear that black t-shirt.
Starting point is 01:06:17 I know that you like work out your neck. How do you, what are your neck exercises? So actually the reason why I was maybe a minute or two late for this call was I was literally finishing my neck exercises. So, um, and that's, that's no joke. So you have like, so we have these, um, harnesses with, uh, which we basically wrap around our head and we, we get like a trainer to pull on it, or we just kind of, I'll just get some, uh, like elastic band stuff, uh, tied to the door and just
Starting point is 01:06:52 sit on a chair and, and kind of do, do some repetitions. But I could sit there for like an hour and a half and just do like a lot of long and low training, um, to build like the endurance. Um, so you're, did you ask why is it important? Yeah. Well, yeah. Why is it, I know it's important if you're wearing like a black t-shirt is actually one of those shirts that you have to be having a good neck day to pull
Starting point is 01:07:13 off correctly, but why is it important for you as a driver also? Yeah. So I mean, a good neck can look good. Um, and you're right. Like a black T does give it, it kind of, um, lends itself to definition. So, uh, you're onto something there. And then for driving, it's, it's our one like major muscle that we need because probably two reasons.
Starting point is 01:07:39 So it's kind of like our highest, um, point of gravity, like center of gravity. Like, so where I guess our head is the tallest point of our body when we're sitting in the car and we also wear the helmet. So all the load and all the G force that we get when cornering, that all gets kind of transferred to our neck. Um, so we're doing like five Gs through corners. So that's like five times your body weight. And I guess for your neck, if, or if you had, I don't know, 10 kilos, call it out
Starting point is 01:08:09 a few kilos for the helmet, say 13 times five. How good's your math? I don't know. 65, 65 kilos. Yeah. So that's like five kilos on your neck for a few seconds in each corner, however many hundred times for a race. So I think that's, that's one.
Starting point is 01:08:27 And then the second reason why we've got to keep it conditioned and strong is the next really weird, it's probably the one muscle where like when it goes, it goes. So like if it fatigues in the race and it like falls over, it's like, you can't pick it back up. It's like, I feel like you can, I don't know, like in training, in, in the gym, you can, you can like push through a few bicep kills or like bench press or like, you know, you can like get that last rep out where with your neck, I feel once it's gone, like see it later.
Starting point is 01:09:02 So you never want to get to that point. Do you wake up the day after a race like Super sore? Yeah, you can do. Like you feel your whole body just feels like heavy. And yeah, you just feel like a soreness and a general fatigue, I guess. Yeah. So you've switched teams a couple of times in the last few years. And obviously everyone's a professional, but when you do switch a team and you
Starting point is 01:09:26 announce it and you still have to race for the current team, do you look around? You're like, are these guys, are they doing everything they could be doing for my car? Or they may be putting a little extra time in the guy who's sticking around. Max for stopping or, or, or, you know, the year before, who was, who was your teammate last year? Ocon, Ocon. Yeah. So like, do you feel that at all?
Starting point is 01:09:47 Or is that, or maybe it's just your paranoid and it happens naturally. But is it, it's got to be a little bit of an awkward feeling to be with the team. And everyone in the room knows that you're not going to be here next year. Yeah. It's like for sure. Like I would say the first or the early stages are a bit, they can be like a bit awkward or uncomfortable. But I think like I don't, there's so many things to like on a race weekend.
Starting point is 01:10:17 Like driving the car is hard enough. And then there's so many other things to deal with, whether it's the media or the team. So I think adding another, like filling my head with another, what if, um, I won't, I like doesn't do me any favors. So I don't really go down that path. But like I am aware that there might be a bit more shit to do in terms of if there's like a few, I don't know, appearances or like they might just load
Starting point is 01:10:43 me up with a bit of extra non-fun work. Yeah. To make me, to make me kind of pay the price, if you know what I mean. But it's, it's not too bad. Like it's okay. And when you make a choice, like to go to Renault, how much of that is dealing with, uh, you know, there, you were talking about all the different small things about a car that can make a difference, things that you would have
Starting point is 01:11:04 to get used to when you're switching to a new car. How much of that decision is based on the technical aspects of the car? Because there's a lot of really important stuff that you have to take into account if you're switching teams versus how much at the end of the day is like, fuck this guy. I want to stick it to him. And this guy's going to pay me a lot of money to join his team. Plus I get to piss off the old guy.
Starting point is 01:11:24 Sign me up. Yeah, all of, all of our point number two. So, um, it's, uh, no, like, I think going to, so like the Red Bull Renault thing. So like at the time, like a lot of people couldn't really understand it. Um, and like fair, fair enough, because I was, I was going from a, you know, I guess second, second best team at the time, third best team to then like the fourth or fifth best team. So I was like, let's say downgrading, if you want to call it that from a, from
Starting point is 01:11:57 a performance point of view, but I felt like, um, at Red Bull, I'd kind of, I kind of want to say like reach my limit. Like I'd been with a team for so long. I'd known everyone so well that I was like, I'm not sure I'm going to put in any more effort into this. If I keep going and like not to, it doesn't really sound right, but like basically I was worried I'll get complacent, just kind of seeing people every day.
Starting point is 01:12:21 And, uh, so I wanted like a new challenge for myself and I also felt like Renault was on like the come up. So I thought it could be also a good opportunity to like, let's say jump ship and kind of try and bring it to the top. I think that actually makes sense. And it takes a lot of self-awareness to realize that about yourself when you've been in like a relationship for a while. And you're like, you know what, I would push myself harder if I was with this
Starting point is 01:12:45 team as opposed to with that team. I don't think, I think a lot of people would have been satisfied with being in, you know, a second or third place. Like that's still pretty good at the end of the day. Yeah, it's, it's, it's true. And like you need, um, yeah, I was, I think that was really it. And I, I felt like I, I could do more or had a bit more to give. And I just needed another, another challenge and a fresh approach really.
Starting point is 01:13:09 And the real reason was more likely that you were kind of creeped out by how much Christian Horner like loves Max for stopping, right? Yeah. So like the best man at the wedding, uh, father, the children, it was even moved into the farmhouse next door. So it was, it was getting a lot. I actually, we ran out of time with Christian Horner, but one of my questions was like, do you ever like have to stop yourself?
Starting point is 01:13:37 Cause you're just staring at Max. And you're like, this is creepy because he is obsessed with Max. And obviously rightfully so, but it's, it's a little weird sometimes. He talks about him like he is his son and there is some, some serious love there. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's weird as fuck. Is there anything on the show that you think either, uh, misrepresent, uh, either
Starting point is 01:14:02 a person that's on the F1 circuit or a team or on the other hand, is there like something that you think that the F1 show hasn't done a good enough job of covering yet, like a storyline you see every day that they haven't exposed yet. I think what, like one thing, one thing I think the first season did really well, probably better than maybe the following two was get a little bit more, um, of us away from the circuit. And like, I know they came out to my farm in the first season. Like they came out to Perth and spent some time.
Starting point is 01:14:39 And, um, I remember like, I think Shaula Clure, they went scuba diving with him or something. And I didn't even know he scuba dived and was into all that stuff. So I think that's where, that's where obviously people can see a bit more about us and like what we like to do away from the track because, because they know, they know what we're like with the helmet on for the most part. And, and, you know, our results and the competition side a little bit. So it's more, yeah, like what we do away from it.
Starting point is 01:15:07 And then people can also relate better. And, uh, yeah, um, even, even like, cause I think when you get to know someone's story, it's like, you might not like someone, but then you're like, Oh, actually, wow, that guy's been through a lot. So yeah, I'm going to give him a bit more time now. So I think that, that as well, you know, people can tend to lean on. So do you still have your iPod that's 15 years old with 80 gigabytes of music? Yeah, I do.
Starting point is 01:15:34 Do you, do you know that Spotify exists? You know, you can stream those songs now. So I, I, yeah, I do. Like, so I do now for the most part go wireless and do the Spotify thing. But yeah, I do feel a little guilty. You know, I'm just like everyone else now. I'm, I'm no different. You had six, 6,000 songs on it.
Starting point is 01:15:57 Like how does it still work? Do they even make chargers for it anymore? So, so I literally had to throw out one of the charges. I reckon probably two weeks ago because it, it had, it had RIP. But I've got one more and it's like, it's got a bit of tape on the end of it because it does want to, it does want to say goodbye. But yeah, can you still buy them? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:16:22 I don't think so. Maybe, maybe. But I mean, it sounds like you're at the end of the line. You've got maybe the last one on earth. You know what, you know what it has them actually like hotels. Hotels have the old school chargers and every single alarm clock for some reason you haven't upgraded those yet. Actually, I'll have a look because I mean, if they've got that in America,
Starting point is 01:16:42 they've definitely got that in Europe because we're normally a little bit behind here as well. So they might even have pre iPod stuff, you know, so when you're when you're getting ready for a race, have you actually like figured out if certain songs make you drive faster? If you listen to them, I mean, I've definitely got some some songs which have like, yeah, kind of created like a good memory for me over the years, but I'll typically like day of the race or like figure
Starting point is 01:17:13 out a little bit my playlist for for like pre race. So it's kind of I'll go on like what I feel and kind of just the mood. But yeah, like and that can be anything from hip hop to EDM to to folk to punk hardcore. Like I really do like nearly everything. So your teammate now at McLaren is Lando Norris. Does he have pubes? I like I want to say for the first time, I saw like a little bit of stubble
Starting point is 01:17:45 on his team because I was like, maybe, maybe the team matches the for people who don't know that question. There was a press conference when they were in 2019 and you could see Daniel leans over and like whispers to Lando. Like, do you even have pubes yet? I was I can't believe they picked that up. But yeah, so I I don't know. I'm I would say some like sprouts.
Starting point is 01:18:18 But he right. He drives a race car very, very fast. Are you awesome at like all race car video games? Like if you played Mario Kart, would you just dominate? I think I would be OK. Like I'm not I'm not a massive like gamer call it. But yeah, as a kid, like I would pick him up and yeah, like racing ones because you kind of know like the line to take and all of that. So yeah, I I would back myself. OK.
Starting point is 01:18:42 And how did you convince your parents like, hey, can you let me drive cars really fast just for fun growing up? Because I feel like that's what every kid wants to do. But you were actually able to somehow like weasel your way into doing this for for a living. How did that conversation go? Yeah, I just sucked at everything else. No, I I loved like I love sports growing up. And I was always very like outdoors and active.
Starting point is 01:19:10 And I couldn't really sit still in a classroom. So I think my parents knew that I was always going to do something with like a little bit of pace or energy. And my dad like raced a little bit like more recreational, like for fun when he was a bit older. So like he grew up around it. He was quite passionate. So I think it was easy for me to be like, oh, yeah, I'm like,
Starting point is 01:19:32 I've got it in my blood thanks to dad. So it's not my fault that I want to race cars. Yeah. But then, yeah, like I was I think I was nine years old and I was practically begging. I was like, just can I please can I please try this out? Because it just makes me more happy than doing anything else. And yeah, I mean, mum was hesitant because it's, I guess, quite dangerous to kind of be in a go-kart doing 60 miles at nine years old.
Starting point is 01:20:01 But and I think dad was a little bit like, well, this is now going to cost me a fortune. So we don't really want you to do this. But but that was great. Like they knew it was going to make me happy and they supported that. So yeah, very, very lucky for sure. All right, my last question, the Shoei, all time celebration. Do you only whip it out for first place?
Starting point is 01:20:22 Or do you do it maybe sometimes at a bar when you got your best party shirt on? So I the intention was to only do it for first place, but they they weren't coming off it enough. So I was like, any podium, any, any top three, I'll do it. And so actually, when I first, when I very first did it, I was like, I'm going to do this as a one off. My Australian mates back home will love me for it. And probably the rest of the crowd will boo me
Starting point is 01:20:54 or just kind of be revolted by it. So then I remember the following, the next time I got a podium, I didn't do it because I didn't win the race. And I was like, I don't want to do this all the time. And they were chanting like Shoei and they were getting upset that I wasn't going to do it. So I feel like they certainly egged it on. And and yes, so that was that was that.
Starting point is 01:21:17 So it's a podium and I have done it at some pool parties before. And I don't love doing it in public. But of course, if you've had a few and there's a crowd, then sometimes it has to come out. I got to imagine the like one of the sweetest beer tasting ever is drinking out of a shoe when you finish first at an F1 race. It's like there's no other way to describe it other than mother's milk. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:46 Wait, do you use it? How often do you change your shoes? Is this like a new pair of shoes that you're doing it out of? Or is a well worn shoe racing shoes? It's yeah, like even if it was a new pair, it's just done like 70 laps in some pretty hot temperatures. Like so where our feet are, like there's there's no cooling there. So like I'll feel you get sweaty during a race.
Starting point is 01:22:09 So and the boot could be maybe three, four races old. So it's not great. But yeah, I mean, I'll make sure I've got clean socks on. So at least like the inside of the boot is in relatively good condition. But the trick the trick is honestly just to pour it quickly and make sure the champagne is still cold. You don't really get the other flavors. Love it. All right.
Starting point is 01:22:32 So now you know, Daniel, that the only thing we've got to tell you is that as a recurring guest, you have to come on the show after you win a race. So next time you win a race, you have to come on right after. That's the rule we have done. And if it's right after, is it like the Sunday after the race? Yeah, I mean, yeah, you it's right after. Yeah, it's me to be slurring words. That's right. With your shirt on. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:55 Well, we're all pretty shirts. I want the retired party shirts so bad. That would be the funniest thing to put in the rafters of the studio. All right. Well, I'm going to I will find one for you guys. I'll make sure there's a few a few stories for it. All right. OK, awesome. And yeah, we'll try. We're going to try to get to a race at some point.
Starting point is 01:23:13 So hopefully we'll see you. Would love would love to have you. I know, obviously, the Austin end of this year. Miami's on the cards next year. So you know, love to have you. Yeah, sounds good. Absolutely. All right. Thank you so much, Daniel. We appreciate it. Best of luck the rest of the season, man.
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Starting point is 01:24:57 It's Firefest and the reintroduction of Billy football, which I know you guys have all been waiting for. I saw Twitter. Everyone was pumped. I appreciate everyone who supports Billy. He's back and ready to go. But let's do Firefest. We're going to end with Billy's Firefest. And then we're going to introduce Billy's new role,
Starting point is 01:25:13 which I think everyone's going to like a lot. And I think we're all going to be better for it. Hank. My Firefest is that despite being skinny, I've managed to get fat over the winter. And I've been trying to lose some weight. She had a couple of pounds for the beach this summer because I want to be like skinny with a gut. So I've been running trying to do some ab stuff
Starting point is 01:25:31 and I was in the gym the other day. I did like 20 sit-ups and I got cramped so bad that I was screaming out loud. Like I stomach. It hurts so bad that I was I was like screaming. And people in the gym had to come over and be like, are you OK? And I was like, no, I'm just cramping. But I was I couldn't I couldn't stop myself. The pain was that bad.
Starting point is 01:25:51 Are you on your period? And I was just no, I'm just I just am that I just hadn't been exercising that that much at all. Damn. Well, I mean, spin zone. I start somewhere, but it was it was quite embarrassing. And I was just like rolling around being like, because because, you know, you know, cramps go. Yeah, they just don't go away.
Starting point is 01:26:08 But it was I mean, that's like a second workout. If you're if your abs start cramping because it's doing you're doing crunches and not even having to do the work. Yeah, I was embarrassing. That's that was my breakfast. It was just a lady had to come over. Be like, are you are you all right? Oh, no, I'm fine. I'm just doing abs.
Starting point is 01:26:26 You never go to the gym. We're going to get you in a shake. Yeah. Don't do that. You want to drink? You want to go on the soup diet? The broth diet? Yeah, I'm thinking about one drink broth. Sure, healthy. Sure. All you do is you just drink soup all day.
Starting point is 01:26:38 Every day I'm so stupid anyway, because like you're never gonna have a six pack. Who are you kidding? No, when you're skinny. Well, you don't understand when you're skinny. If you're going to have a six pack. Yeah, I'll have a six pack. You will never have a six pack.
Starting point is 01:26:48 Yes, I will. All right. Great. How much time? Give me a month. By the end of the summer. Oh, six pack summer. You're going to have a six pack. You're going to have a visible six pack. Yes, no chance. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 01:27:00 I'm not trying to be a hater. Just genetically, you're not a six pack guy. No, skinny people in six packs go hand in hand. I think Hank's still young enough. Once you hit 30, at that point, it's like if you've never had a six pack, you're never going to get one. You can do it, Hank. He's 28.
Starting point is 01:27:16 Support the homies. I got you. All right. My fire fest of the week, I've got a couple. My first fire fest is that I was supposed to go to Margaritaville this weekend and they canceled my reservation because it's not ready. Sorry if you're lost. Thank you. Where is Margaritaville?
Starting point is 01:27:33 It's in Times Square. And it's the most magical place on earth. There's a pool that fits upwards of at least 10 people in it and 256 rooms. It's an all-inclusive resort. It's not really all-inclusive, but it does include bars that you can pay for drinks at. So I was really excited about that. They had all these customized awesome novelty drinks.
Starting point is 01:27:54 I had actually made a schedule for myself. You know, if you go on a vacation that you really pumped about and you overplan everything, I managed to overplan a vacation to Times Square, to a hotel in Times Square. And then they called me two days ago and they said, guess what?
Starting point is 01:28:09 It's not going to be ready for the opening. Can you come back later this summer? And I was like, yeah, but it's not the same because it was going to be opening weekend of Margaritaville. I was going to be one of those losers that camped out in line to be the first to get that chicken fillet. That was going to be me. And I was super excited about it.
Starting point is 01:28:25 And now, I don't know. I don't know what I'm going to do myself. So really, that's, I'll just say, that's my firefest. I don't think I can top that. That's, yeah, no, no, that's the firefest. I paid for it. I was ready to go. My bags were packed.
Starting point is 01:28:36 I didn't really have to pack a bag because I lived down the street. But I was ready to go. Yeah, that's a legit firefest. I'm sorry for your loss. I'm still going to have to listen to Jimmy Buffett this weekend. And you can't be sad listening to Jimmy Buffett.
Starting point is 01:28:48 I'm going to be the first person who cries listening to cheeseburger and paradise. It will be good though to cry it out, you know, to listen to some Buffett and cry it out. As men, we don't show our emotions. Jake, why don't you go? Then I'll go. Then we'll give it to Billy.
Starting point is 01:29:03 Yeah, I do have one. But today is the one year anniversary of something very important. Doug's first national title. You got some tweets or you remember? Yeah, I had a few. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Is that Tennessee?
Starting point is 01:29:13 God damn that. Yeah, that feels like. Tennessee 41, Miami 34, June 18th, 2020. That showed up for that. That was hell of a game too. Yeah, it was. Yeah. Virginia Tech was tough.
Starting point is 01:29:24 Miserable. Still don't know what happened. Yeah, so congrats to Doug. Thank you. One year later. We like where were you? We sprayed champagne. Yeah. We took confetti.
Starting point is 01:29:31 We smoked cigars. In honor to the 76ers. And then we're like, whoa, this is kind of weird. All right. You're real fast. We did smoke cigars. We was inside. In a room.
Starting point is 01:29:40 Small room. With all the electronics. Yeah, small room. But that also was like we were, there was a moment in time in this office where we were like, what was that Tom Cruise movie where he lives in the airport? The terminal.
Starting point is 01:29:52 We were basically living the terminal where we just, it was just our office. There was no one else. Tom Hanks. Who do I say? Mission Impossible. Tom Cruise. Tom Hanks.
Starting point is 01:30:01 Yeah. Eyes wide shut. Yes. Fidelio. My apartment lease is up at the end of the month. I've been searching all week long, took plenty of tours, phone calls, and I think I'm just going to stay.
Starting point is 01:30:13 No. For a year. Jake, I have a humble suggestion. So it's just a total waste of time this week. And you live in a depressing, depressing place. It's a studio. What he does. He explained it to me.
Starting point is 01:30:25 He was so sad. It's all right. It's actually okay now. During COVID, I was really sad. Yeah, no. I think the fact that New York's open now, I won't be spending as much time. But when you explained-
Starting point is 01:30:35 Hank gave me an extra TV. Yeah, when COVID was happening and you were like, yeah, I live in my kitchen. I was like, oh my God, dude. Yeah. Jake, I have a humble suggestion for you. You can take it or you can leave it. If you're looking to upgrade your space,
Starting point is 01:30:50 one way that a lot of people do that here in New York is they take on a roommate. And I happen to know someone who's also looking for an apartment in New York at exactly the same time. However, that person owns a dog and I am allergic to dogs. He's sitting right next to you. So that would make me ineligible for a potential roommate. Jake was very quick with that lie
Starting point is 01:31:11 when I brought it up to him the other day. He was like, I'm allergic to dogs. No, no, no, no, no. No, Jake is not allergic to dogs. I've got to be allergic to dogs. Jake's allergic to everything. I'm allergic to dogs. Cats?
Starting point is 01:31:23 Yes. Yeah, of course. Are you allergic? Are you allergic? No. Meh, but maybe. Are you allergic to tree nuts? No.
Starting point is 01:31:29 OK, good. Because we have a spider attack in the studio. Sweet. All right. By breakfast, that sucks, Jake. Sorry. My breakfast, although not moving is also. Yeah, not moving is also really great.
Starting point is 01:31:40 So yeah, it is really great. It's just the time I wasted this week. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Touring and yeah. Brokerfee's are a firefest of just life. Yeah, they are. It's bullshit. All right, my firefest, I tweeted about this
Starting point is 01:31:49 when Sixers fan asked me to treat about anything besides the Sixers. So you guys might have seen it, but it's still kind of like haunting me. I was walking Stella. I think it was like Sunday or Monday. And there was a couple riding their bikes up my street. And it's like there's some cobblestone.
Starting point is 01:32:05 There's some weird shit potholes. And the dad had a kid on the back. And the mom. Describe the back, though. That's what I didn't understand. It's like, you know, those like the extra seat on the back. Like a basket that's right behind the dad. The kid was probably like five, right?
Starting point is 01:32:20 And the mom goes up on the sidewalk and she's like, watch out, this street is really like not great. And two seconds later, he just toppled over. And I'm pretty sure the kid broke his arm. And this happened like maybe 12 feet in front of me. And then the mom started just berating the dad. And I didn't do. Yeah, kid was wailing.
Starting point is 01:32:42 And I just didn't do anything. I just walked back inside. You were probably psyched to watch a real life arm breaking video. Yeah, no, it was sick when it happened. Then I was like, oh, that's bad. And I also like, I don't know. There's nothing I could have done.
Starting point is 01:32:53 There was two parents, one kid. Like if there were two kids and the mom had jumped off and been like, oh, make sure the other kid. What am I supposed to do? Right. So in that situation, you think like I should do something. But really the something that you would do would be like go up and like push that.
Starting point is 01:33:06 I would be like out of my way. I'm a blogger. I can help. And also I had Stella who probably would have just started barking in their face. So yeah, it's kind of haunted me because I feel like I should have just been like, you guys good as I walked away. But I didn't even do that.
Starting point is 01:33:20 I just, it happened. It was like right in front of me, wailing, arm break, yelling, maybe two seconds later, I just turned around and walked inside. Yeah, that's a bad age to get a cast on your arm too. I was like, forget this happened. I feel like if you're in second or third grade, if you have to have a cast, that's a really good age.
Starting point is 01:33:41 Because everyone in your class is like, oh, cool cast. Let me sign it. Exactly. But if you're five, it's like, wow, now the kid has a whole summer where we're going to have to take care of everything for him. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:33:50 Yeah. So I've been thinking about it a lot. No beach in the summer. No pools. Yeah. Also, are you OK? Like, I'm worried about you mentally. I'm not OK.
Starting point is 01:33:58 Do you have like any, do you talk to somebody about it? Yeah, it was very awkward. It was tough. Also my FireFest's Madden codes are back. And now my mentions are messed. Which, speaking of, so here's what we're going to do. I'm going to give out an Xbox one. And I'm going to give out a PS5 one.
Starting point is 01:34:12 There's four more that are going to be giving out, but they're going to be on our YouTube of this show. Liam's going to put it in randomly just on the screen. It's going to be on the screen. Yeah, I'll just put it in at random points. Also, just please subscribe to our YouTube. It helps us. We're going to do more live stuff.
Starting point is 01:34:28 So Xbox Series X, 6, 4, 9, X, 9, Y, X, 4, R, 2, H, F, M, X, V, J, F, J, Q, Q, T, R, Q, 7, Z, and then PS5, A, G, C, A, 8, B, N, 8, N, D, X, P. I would assume that Billy is probably going to plug one of those in before the show's even released. But let's do it. Billy Football is officially back. He has graduated college. Clap it up for Billy.
Starting point is 01:35:07 Back Billy. We're excited to have him back. Summa cum laude. We told him it's blank slate coming back, which I truly believe we had to talk. Billy and I went and got a coffee. It was very adult of us. Well, I am an adult.
Starting point is 01:35:21 You're not. No, that was wrong. What I just did was wrong. I should have done that. I'm an adult now. Yeah, you're an adult now. But Billy has a list of things he's going to do. And one of those things, so Billy is going to,
Starting point is 01:35:33 at the end of shows, he is going to basically do recaps, things we missed, jokes that he would have said in the flow of the show, stats, whatever, notes from the interview. Basically, like a stat boy, extended stat boy, where he's contributing in almost its own segment at the end, where it's like a recap of the show, loose talk, have some fun. That way Billy can have a place to succeed,
Starting point is 01:36:01 but also doesn't feel like he's butting into the start of the show. And he's got a notepad and pen in his hands, which is you look very professional like that. And I noticed that you're wearing your shirt with Jake's picture on it. That's very big of you. Dude, I've been listening to the show since I'm gone,
Starting point is 01:36:15 and that was electric. That was hilarious, like kudos to Jake for being the alpha of the office. Yeah, very well-trained right now, Billy. This is impressive. Oh, yeah. Yeah, so I'm excited, Billy. I'm excited that you're back.
Starting point is 01:36:25 I think this is going to be really good for you. It's also like we have structure. You know what I mean? We have structure to your role in this. We'll expand it as we see fit. But that's how it will go from here on out. It will be start of the show, me, PFT, Hank, little Jake, interview, then back half of the show, whatever we do,
Starting point is 01:36:45 depending on the day, and some Billy recap and having some fun. Billy, I had one question for you. Did you listen to us talking about what animals we could beat up? Yes, I did extensively. What did you think? I thought that you guys targeted the wrong animals. Kangaroos could beat the shit out of you.
Starting point is 01:37:05 Nope. Billy, did you listen to the interview? We're about getting inside of its pocket and then punching it from within. No, no. Australian Daniel Ricardo said I could beat up a kangaroo. No, I listened to that one. I have another take on that, so we'll get to that later.
Starting point is 01:37:19 Kangaroos beat the shit out of people all the time. They literally have talons on their feet that can slice you open. Have you ever seen a kangaroo boxing match, though? Yes. People have beaten up kangaroos. Those are the ones that they take their talons off. OK, what about the windpipe?
Starting point is 01:37:35 That one worked. Black bears, actual pussies. I saw you. You were right on that video. You could beat the shit out of a black bear. You snuffed that out. I appreciate that. Black bears would run.
Starting point is 01:37:44 It's like pots and pans get rid of black bears. OK. Black fight back. Brown, lay down. Lay down. White, say goodnight. Boom. There it is.
Starting point is 01:37:54 That's how you handle bears. OK, so what's your fire fest? And also, let's do it. Whatever you want to talk about. Word. So fire fest, I moved into a new place in between housing. Didn't want to commit to a gym membership, so I was taking the one day free passes
Starting point is 01:38:10 at all the different gyms. OK. So one day, I ended up in a Planet Fitness. Planet Fitness, Lunk Alarm, set off the Lunk Alarm. You set it off? Yeah, they said. What'd you do? What'd you do?
Starting point is 01:38:22 Did you bring your set ups and you started cramping and yelling? No, I had my headphones on and didn't realize that the pull down machine I was using was slamming. Oh, no. I totally, I mean, I usually do set it down gently, but it turns out it was a little clankier. Yeah. I thought, anyway, I got tossed.
Starting point is 01:38:39 He said, we don't let the one day membership people fuck around like that. Like, get a real membership through the slamming. That's fair. Yeah. Fair. You got to pay us $8.99 a month in order to do that. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:38:49 So that's what happened. And now, into. Wait, wait. Real quick, your fire fest reminded me, I actually did have a bigger fire fest that I left it out. I'm sorry. But it was a gym related story. I was changing after my workout.
Starting point is 01:39:07 I was not nude. Had my shirt off. Was that my locker? I look across the locker room as I'm starting to put my stuff back in. There's a guy with a camera out and his flash went off because he was taking a picture of me from across the locker. And I just pretended not to notice it because at that point
Starting point is 01:39:26 it's like, this is weird for all of us. Yeah. Probably the worst moment of that guy's life. Dude, don't do that, people. And I got secondhand embarrassment, even though I'm basically Aaron Andrews at this point because I was getting spied on. But yeah, I chose to let it go.
Starting point is 01:39:42 But my fire fest of the week is feeling embarrassed for that guy with a flash going off. That's the worst thing that you could do. Yeah. That's terrible. That actually happened to me like two years ago in a gym locker room. You were taking a picture of someone?
Starting point is 01:39:56 No, a guy just walked up to me butt ass naked. And I was butt ass naked and just like, stranger. And what happened next? And I was just like, dude, who are like, and then he was like, hey, are you Billy? Yeah, that was my first situation. All right. OK, so recap of the show or whatever you want to talk about.
Starting point is 01:40:12 Male porn stars can fake money shots. PFT, if you could reference OG Mudbone. Do some research. I did not make the point. This is good, Billy. Eyes, comments, credits, whoever that was. It was a good comment. I don't think Ricciardo is actually from Australia
Starting point is 01:40:31 because, one, he didn't make a drop bear comment, which is like Australia 101. Yeah, they tell you to do that. And whenever you encounter a dumb American, you mentioned drop bears or hoop snakes to him. Got it. And kangaroos are actually dangerous. And he wasn't actually down with the animals in Australia.
Starting point is 01:40:51 Good accent, though, for a faker, right? He's probably from Chile. Hey. Solid. Who knows? Hank, before you work out, try my doll. It's great for workout, reduce stuff. And if you're looking for a six-pack shortcut,
Starting point is 01:41:10 drink green tea all day. Cuts down on the fat and gets your metabolism going. That's soup and hormone. That's the same thing as broth. Do you think you can get it, a six-pack? I'm going to be honest. I was thinking about this. Last year, I was 235 pounds at the Dugs championship game.
Starting point is 01:41:24 Yeah, Billy was a belly football. Yeah, I've lost 25 pounds since then. But that's a year. I know. Well, he has way less. He's got two and a half months. But he has way less mass to lose. Skinny people get six packs easier.
Starting point is 01:41:37 So he could do it. But it's factor fiction. And last. Was that just you trying to say that you have a six-pack? I do not have a six-pack. He did, though, for a second. For a second. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:47 I also like the fact that Billy weighed himself in before the national championship video game. No, it was bad. But I think six-packs, obviously, have never even come close, obviously. I'm saying that. But isn't it like if Frank loses weight, losing weight is hard.
Starting point is 01:42:02 Going from getting skinny to actual six-pack is really hard. But if you do abs every day. No, that's not even it. It's just lowering your body fat. It's genetics, too, though. Eating healthy, working out, doing full body exercise. Have you ever had a six-pack? Yes.
Starting point is 01:42:15 Full one. Yes. I ran across the country when I was a freshman in high school. Full six-pack. Yeah. That was 14 years ago. No, Billy's right. If you do enough cardio, do a small one.
Starting point is 01:42:24 I've been six feet 160 since I was like 13. The abs are there. I'm six feet 180 right now. You actually hope you have a six-pack right now. There's just a layer of fat that's over. And you've got to get rid of that fat. Don't waste your time and do sit-ups and stuff. That won't do it.
Starting point is 01:42:39 You've got to do stuff like huge anabolic lifts. That gets your T up, gets your fat burning, and just gets the system going. Jake, my dog is hypoallergenic, and I think it would be really convenient if we lived together. And last but not least, T-Rex are closer to humans in time than they are to stegosaurus. So T-Rexes and humans are 65 million years apart.
Starting point is 01:43:10 Stegosaurus and T-Rexes are 85 million years apart. Wow. Except the earth is 60,000 years old. So checkmate. Might want to check your math on that, Billy. It's good to have you back, Billy. Are you happy to be back? I have a present for you guys.
Starting point is 01:43:22 Oh, yes. I actually knew about this. Because this is, I'm going to give Billy credit. A lot of credit. Yep. I texted Billy. He's got the 69 ball. I texted Billy.
Starting point is 01:43:33 I said, hey, you know what would be a good thing? Is if you maybe were at the barn, like brought back the 69 ball as like a peace treaty, like the boys are back together. And then he showed me. He's like, I already brought it from the barn. It's ready to go. I had moved at that point.
Starting point is 01:43:47 Yep. Already had it. I'd like to send it back in. Great job with your first segment there. That was exactly what we're looking for. Wait, perfect. Some funny jokes. Billy, the fact that you brought this back,
Starting point is 01:43:58 I think you should have it. That showed a lot. No, because I don't know what number it is. OK, that was a test. That was a test. Good job, good job. I just want to keep the 69 every time. It was December 3rd, 2020, when Billy correctly picked it.
Starting point is 01:44:11 So it's been out of the office for over a half a year. I'll tell you what, if it hits right now, then Billy, you're, I don't know what we'll do. I'm going to guess 69. No, 69. This is, OK, 99. 96. Get ready for Monday's show.
Starting point is 01:44:28 We got a great string of guests coming up. I'll go eight, actually. It's great to have you back, Billy. Thanks, guys. Thank you for taking me back. Yeah, handshakes in the chat. Handshakes in the chat. Trust the process.
Starting point is 01:44:38 Trust the Billy process. We're going to succeed. It's going to be great. Everyone's going to love this. I'm telling you. And if you don't, go fuck yourself. Also, check out the Madden codes on the YouTube and subscribe.
Starting point is 01:44:46 99. 8. 56. What did you say, Jake? 18. What did you say, Liam? 96. Ah.
Starting point is 01:45:03 What do we got? Should we run it again? Just to see if we get 69. Just this time. Bonus. This should be. Bonus. 82.
Starting point is 01:45:09 First timer. First timer. First timer. This one doesn't count unless it's 60. It doesn't count? Doesn't count unless it's 60. Overshadow, 82 is first timer. It's 82, but I just wanted to know.
Starting point is 01:45:19 OK, see, didn't count. Oh, disqualified. Nope. Well, that's actually bad sign, Billy. Unlucky 13. No, I was born on the 13th. It's lucky for me. Friday the 13th.
Starting point is 01:45:30 I actually was born on Friday the 13th. Oh, that explains everything. Love you guys. It's not a day to fight me. Shine away. Oh, I'll be coming for your love of cake. Shine away. Oh, I'll be coming for your love of cake.
Starting point is 01:46:16 Take on me. Take me on. I'll be gone. But I won't take me. Needless to say, I'm on sentence. But I'll be stolen away. It's only then that the life is OK. Say after me.
Starting point is 01:46:49 It's no better to be safe than sorry. Say after me. It's no better to be safe than sorry. Take on me. Take me on. I'll be gone. But I won't take me. All the things that you say, yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:19 Is it a life or just to play my worries away? All the things I've got to remember. You shine away. I'll be coming for you anyway. Take on me. Take me on. I'll be gone. But I won't take me.
Starting point is 01:47:54 I'll be gone. In a day. In a day. In a day.

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