Pardon My Take - FAU HC Dusty May, NBA With Kirk Goldsberry, MLB Opening Day + Fyre Fest Of The Week

Episode Date: March 31, 2023

MLB Opening Day is here and we’re excited about baseball (00:00:00-00:11:08). Asante Samuel did a tweet and we talk Final Four with a special twist on who has to sit in the top row Saturday night (00:11:08-00:34:24). FAU Head Coach Dusty May joins the show to talk about the incredible March run, coaching in the C-USA, coaching his sons, stories from Florida and more (00:34:24-01:09:12). Kirk Goldsberry joins us live from Austin after we taught his class at UT to talk NBA, Jokic’s mvp case and more (01:09:12-01:42:41). We finish with Fyre fest of the week (01:42:41-01:54:19).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen, ad free on Amazon Music. On today's part in my take, we have a twofer for the people. We have Florida Atlantic head coach Dusty May getting ready for Saturday nights, semifinal at the final four in Houston. And then we have our good friend, Kirk Goldsbury on to talk a little NBA. We're actually in his classroom right now. We're at the University of Texas and we taught a class molding some young minds. Yeah, scary thought, scary thought. And we have both them on the show. Great, great show. We're going to talk a little baseball opening day, firefest of the week. Hank is doing the shocker. That's the Houston Cougars. He's doing the Houston

Cougar sign wrong, wrong team. We are going to hang out with Dana tomorrow night. We just actually solidified those plans. We're doing this a lot tomorrow night. Yes, yes, hell yes. All right, so we're in Texas. We're going to go to the final four and we're going to use Game Time, the exclusive ticketing partner of Barstool Sports created by fans for fans. Game Time is a ticketing app that makes it easier than ever to score last minute deals on tickets to sports, concerts and shows. And they guarantee the lowest price it's possible with the Game Time app. The biggest last minute price drops can be found on the seats you thought you could never buy the purchase process takes just two taps and 10 seconds. And once you buy tickets,

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fraud in the world. I use Game Time all the time. $77. Whoa. Okay. We're gonna get some good seats. We are going to get some good seats. We do need to do the thing. We need to buy seats, the last seats in the entire stadium and decide side ones. Yeah, and decide who's going to what seats. We'll do that at the during firefest. We'll do we'll figure out a way between the five of us. We'll decide two people, maybe one person just has to go sit at the end. Yeah, I might would actually be very fun. You should give them to kids. That's that's what we should give to kids. Yeah, they just have to go with a listener. They have to sit. Yeah, the game time app go to the game time app. We'll figure it out. We'll announce really good low seats for under 200 bucks. Okay,

so one of us will go sit in the last row of the stadium. Is that the deal we're making one of the five of us by themselves? I like those odds. Okay, all right. Game time app. Go check it out today. Use code PMT both games for one game. So two losers. No one game and then you can come down. Okay, yeah, it's gonna be max use code PMT for $20 off your first purchase terms apply. Okay, let's go. Oh, no, we're gonna rock down to electric avenue. And then we take it higher. Oh, we're gonna rock down to electric. Welcome to part of my take today is Friday, March 31. And we got baseball boys baseballs back advanced stat. Christian Yelich is on pace to hit zero home runs this year to hear it

fraud no power in that guy love to hear it. There's nothing better than opening day. It does feel like we've made it through winter. Just feeling seeing the boys a summer out there. It also is very fun to do those stats. I think Aaron judge at one point was on pace for 570 home runs. That was cool. Cubs are on pace for 162 wins. The Phillies are on pace for zero wins. Yeah, you remember for about two hours when Aaron judge was a giant. And then in his first at bat, he goes yard off the Giants. Yes, that's a two point swing. Yeah, remember to I didn't really say that because Aaron judge deleted, or he unfollowed the Yankees, it was a good negotiating. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I remember that as well. But yeah, we so you see how big those bases are.

They're huge. They look bigger than spring training. I'm gonna say it. I'm legitimately excited for the new rules. Like I think that this actually there's been so many so much hand wringing about how to fix baseball. I was reading an article that basically everyone who played in the WBC who had come from spring training was like, yeah, this feels like we're playing 10 hours. Like why why wouldn't we have a clock? I'm excited. I think it's gonna be awesome more stolen bases more. I think there was it was something every single team stole more bases in spring training than last year, even though it was the short and spring training, the shift, everything like I'm excited for baseball. The shift. And that's that might be because it comes when they're first.

No, the shift. I think we they actually listen to what baseball fans have been saying. Yes, which is even baseball. That's how you know that your game is boring as fuck. When your most die hard fans are like this, I'm watching too much baseball. Yes, you need to shorten it a little bit. So there was some like initial controversy today. I think it was a Red Sox player, right? First ever to be called out got called out because you have to step back into the box before eight seconds. And then the umpire watches and if the pitcher gets the pitch off in time or whatever, boom, you're out. Yeah, it's fun. It's fun like watching these rules be implemented and watch players like freak out for the first time. But overall, I think that what they've done is they've

turned baseball into a game that more people Congrats, we did it. We did it through our Mike Greenberg's thumb rules. We made baseball watchable again. Yeah, there's going to be games that are two hours and 20 minutes, which is perfect time. Yep. Yeah, ready to go. And we will do a baseball preview at some point. I it was kind of, I don't want to take some AWLs to task. But if you know, we're a little backed up, we just did our NBA preview like a month ago, we did our college basketball preview in January, we're going to need a little bit of time to see how everything shakes out before we do our preview. We still haven't done our NHL preview, have we? No, we did. We did that in December, actually, that we just did that. So that this net would stop hitting

us up. Yes, but we're going to do it. We'll do another NHL preview. We will do an MLB preview. My you want to just say who are World Series champions? Yes, San Diego Padres. Oh, we are saying who they're playing. No, I'm just saying I will do our World Series loser preview later. Okay, I was I was going to pick the Mets, but Verlander's already hurt. Yeah. So the Mets are on pace to have every player injured this year. Hmm. Hmm. The Rangers are at the top of the AOS right now. Hmm. Want to know, huh? Catbird seat. You know what? I'll say it. This is the year. I think the Tampa Bay Rays are going to win it all. Okay. They've been they've always been for us what like 10 years, 15 years, they've been like knocking at the door where like they'll have

a couple of years where their advanced analytics will always work and they'll be the team that everyone's like watch out for the Rays and then they'll fall back down. I think they're coming back up. I think the Cincinnati Reds. Yeah, good. Good. Yeah. I think they were my pick last year. The Cincinnati Reds are own one. They lost to the Pittsburgh Pirates. O'Neill Cruz is a monster. So you're already a major comeback. Okay. I do love Cincinnati. Like for whatever reason, they party the hardest for opening day. Yeah, it's a big it's a parade and everything. Yeah, that's exciting. It's awesome. I mean, opening day is awesome. Yeah, it really is. Like it does feel like it's like not a lot of daygames on or there wasn't a lot of games on ESPN. No, there

were a lot of daygames. I did my strategy of with all the rule changes just blindly bet every over. There was like nine games during the day, you know, not on ESPN. I feel like in the past, it was just the opening day was was the world was the world baseball classic bad for baseball because now the regular season is going to pale in comparison to it. Baseball fatigue. Yeah, I'm already out. I'm out. Yeah, people are wondering. I actually I'm switching angels. Yeah, I was about to say my my loser of the World Series. Let's do it. Let's do loser. Okay. Angels, Padres, angels lose in a sweep unless they bring back the rally monkey in which case they win. Angels beat the Giants again. Shades of what was that 2003? So sure. Mike socialism. Yeah.

Okay. I mean, that's that's your guy. I'll do next Dean. Oh, yeah. David Hussle monster. I'll do the Tampa Bay Rays beat the Philadelphia Phillies because of course. Yeah, title time. Yeah, of course. That would absolutely happen. I actually am I'm I'm also very excited for the Cubs because I think they're going to be my line is sneaky, not bad. I'm so sneaky, not bad is very close to good. Yes, sneaky, not bad. You're at least you got young guys you can root for. Yes, like you're building something. Do I have some guys Mancini Swanson like they're it's sneaky, not bad. Do I have to pick a Chicago's Cubs or White Sox? Since I'll be out there this summer, is it? Well, just look, look into White Sox Dave's eyes and then you can pick.

Well, yeah, they're your socks, brethren. That's true. You have to go double socks, right? That's true. Keep those feet warm. By the way, I think Tray Mancini is like the universally most loved guy in all of baseball because remember, didn't he beat cancer? He did. Yeah. And and he then like he he's the only guy who's ever gone to the Astros and people didn't hate him. Yeah. Think about that. That's really hard to do. He's a really good feel good story. Yeah, right. Dominated. Can you like everyone hates the Astros? Everyone on the Astros? Yeah. He's he's he is somehow not hated. Shohei Otani not hated. Yeah, although there I think there's some people who are like he should be a Yankee. Yeah, he's just he's a Yankee. Yeah.

You remember when he made his debut for the Angels? It was in spring training and Mike Franceso was like, yes, Yankees dodged a bullet by not getting this guy to talk about this guy like he's Babe Ruth. Yeah, they're not even able to put him on the roster. Babe Ruth would have been cleaning his job. Great call. Great call. Yeah, baseball. Let's have some fun with baseball. It's just good. You know what baseball is great for, especially this time of year, is just walking past the TV. Yeah, and seeing a sport on a live sport in the middle of the grass. Yeah, just a live sports on a TV that I walk past. I'm in makes me feel good. Yeah. And then, you know, usually it's like opening day happens, then you kind of get a low where you're like,

oh, shit, there's 162 of these. And then like June rolls around, you're like, no, this is fun. Plus those bases, man, I'm telling you, they're huge. They're fucking huge. All right. What else we have going on? Oh, we have a tweet that Hank has to address. Yes, Hank, we do. It's more than just a tweet. It sounds like a culture that you have to address. Yeah. So a Sante Samuel tweeted out of the clouds, like really, I don't know what he's even doing these days. Is he on a show anywhere? He's being a dad. He's been a dad job of all. He said Lamar Jackson, my brother, trust me, you don't want to play for Belichick out of nowhere. He's a defensive player. I don't really know how that's relevant. Well, Belichick's a defensive coach. I thought you had something better

than that. No, I just think it's like, I don't know. I think, I think, you know, a guy like Tom Brady, Hoyer, maybe a quarterback quarterback says something like that, and maybe hold some more weight, but a defensive player talking to a quarterback. They're not even in the same position rooms. No, he's just saying he doesn't he knows how Belichick is and he knows Lamar. You wouldn't want to play for this guy. Does he know Lamar? We maybe I also he called him his brother. Sounds like he's got he's just a little I mean, again, Belichick's known related for cutting players when you know, the second they're on their decline. Well, it's not what has experienced two separate cultures. He's experienced the Patriots, and then he's experienced a winning

culture on the Eagles. And he just knows that you don't want to play for the Patriots. What is his beef though? Because I just went to his Twitter page and the tweet before that is a retreat where Brandon Marshall was calling him out saying, how dare you a Sunday Samuel? How dare you shady McCoy? How dare you say Bill Belichick ain't that guy? What what is the beef? He probably got cut. Yeah. It was it was very weird out of nowhere. I mean, at least it has to make you stop for a second. There's got to be something else. There's something deeper there. Yeah. Yeah, we got to figure out what that is. Maybe it's held on 2007 and and and there was a free agency departure. I mean, I think he's the class and guy where it's like they cut them, they weren't

going to pay and they cut them. And so that seems extremely relevant to me that on the eve of a big payday, he tried to strong or he tried to hold out, maximize his value. Sounds like that's exactly what Lamar is going through right now. Yeah. What was it? Who's the guy who picked off Russell Wilson? Darius? No, Malcolm Butler. Malcolm Butler. He also was he was he was on that because of that. Sante Samuel is David Tyree catch. Yeah. But no, I'm saying Malcolm Butler like he kind of he kind of Malcolm Butler got like put, you know, remember he didn't play in that game the next year. So maybe he's like he treats players bad. I don't know. I think it seems weird. It does. It seems it seemed out of nowhere. Hank, you seem like you're

you're very delusional about anything related to the Patriots right now. No, that's not me. I'm I'm thinking I'm very level headed with the Patriots always have been longest odds they've ever had in the Bilbo check area since the first year, I think. Yeah, it's going to be a fun season. We're not going to get Lamar. Unfortunately, doesn't seem seem that way. Why not? I was I just doesn't think I want some. I don't think I just don't think Belichick wants him, which is crazy because it'd be so fun. So far. I would love to watch and see what they did. All I know is I'm all in on both with the Richardson and Will Leviss. Yeah. So Anthony Richardson had his pro day today and he lit it up lighting it up. He's an absolute athletic freak Donis. He threw it

at the roof. He said afterwards he did that because Will Leviss did that. Yeah. I do feel bad for our friend Will Leviss that he's like Anthony Richardson is such an athletic freak. Will Leviss would be an athletic freak any other year. He just happens to be matched up against the guy who's like literally the I think it's he would he chart higher than any quarterback ever? Right? Yeah, it's basically he's basically Cam Newton. Yeah, better. No, he's better. He's better. More athletic. It's Cam Newton with regular captions on Instagram. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, speaks English and also no Heisman or national title. That this is that's college. This is the pro game. No, no, but Anthony Rich.

Anthony Richardson didn't do what Cam Newton did in college. Right. What steel laptop. That's the past. That's it. We're focused on, you know, right in the present day. Anthony Richardson is better than Cam Newton right now. I'd probably agree when they were both the same. Whatever age they were. Yeah. Okay. So when Cam Newton was the number one pick in the draft and won a national Heisman and a Heisman beat Alabama with a team that had no offensive like NFL talent. So now Anthony Richardson is better than that guy. That SEC wasn't the same as today's SEC. It's much harder. It's much harder to win in today's SEC. All I know is I've seen it off from both of those guys. If you can throw a football off of a roof, I'm in. Dude, he was sitting down, not on his knees,

sitting down, throwing 30 yards. Okay, I'm in. Yeah, like it was insane. How do you not? How do you not take a number one? What would happen in the game? There's nothing to do with your bet. No, what would happen in a game if a quarterback hit the roof of a dome with a pass? I guess what I mean, yeah, Jerry's world. Don't hit the scoreboard. They have to repunt, right? Can you does that wind time off the clock when you do that? Oh, I don't know. Now you found a loop. I think I found a wrinkle in time. Yeah. Aren't the Titans getting a new stadium? Yeah, maybe they build it specifically to have a race time. Yeah, it's funny because I think Will Leavis he's obviously like he's way stronger than he was a couple months ago. They did the

before and after pictures of Will Leavis. I think all the Mayo talk got to him. I think he was sick of being asked about how he puts Mayo in his coffee, how he's been. Every question was like food related to Will Leavis. He's like, I'll show all of you. I'm gonna get really strong. Now the question it's shift to is Will Leavis to jacked up to play in the NFL. I mean, I'm rooting for Will Leavis. He is a friend of the program. I'm rooting for Anthony Richardson, too, because he seems like if he could put it all together, he'd be electric. Yeah, I did have a dream the other night, which is terrible to say, admit that like these are the dreams I'm having. CJ Stroud to the 49ers. Oh, imagine him and Carlos. That was my dream. Yeah, they just it was crazy. I just had CJ Stroud

in a 49ers uniform. I don't know how it happens. Yeah, someone figure out how they can move up with I don't think they have a first round pick. No, they definitely don't. Right? They don't, but they got a bunch of third round picks. Okay, so that's how it happens. They bundled their third. How many third round picks equals a first round pick? We got to we got to do our own draft value. 15 15 third rounders. I'd say does our biggest dozen 13 first pick in the draft. Yeah, that would actually rule if you could trade it for an entire round of the draft. You would be able to build a hell of a football team out of only third round pick. Yeah, I've got major respect for the whole Patriots organization being drafted to that team helped me be a better player and a

better man. And for that, I'll be forever grateful. Who's that? Santé Samuel. When? After he retired. Oh, was he still owed money? No, that's what it was. He held out before the 2007 season. He went all pro and then he signed with the Eagles and he was mad that he said the Patriots offered him half as much as like what he was should have been getting. So don't hate the player. He's bitter. Yeah, all checks playing the game correctly. Yeah, but it sounds like Lamar wouldn't want a situation where your coach is denying you money. That's exactly what Lamar is leaving right now. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, I mean, I thought the only way that it would work is where Lamar was kind of just gonna like do like a fuck you to everyone else and prove it with the Patriots

and then I don't know. It never really made sense other than just like it'd be sick. It would be sick. Yeah, that's yeah. But like in the world of yeah, I just kind of I just want to win. I'm just going to win to prove to be Matt Jones. Like even your car insurance rates are through the roof. Yep. A lot of points. Yeah. You don't think it sucks to be Matt Jones? I don't have Matt Jones is a good quarterback if you can get an all pro quarterback. I guess he has an offensive coordinator doesn't suck as much. Yeah, but you still have the threat. You've got a looming zappy over your shoulder. Yeah, it's more like I feel bad. I'm not saying like he sucks. I'm saying it's got to suck to know that even like Robert Kraft being like meek,

Mill texting me, let's get Lamar. That's got to suck. Yeah, knowing that your boss is texting with Meek Mill trying to get you fired. That sucks. It's a business. They know. Okay, blinders on. All right, we're going to talk some let's talk some final before we do that. Just for men, one day beard and brow color is the first temporary brush in wash out color from just for men. The beard color experts, it's a breakthrough die free formula easily and instantly eliminates grades with natural looking temporary colors fills in the thin patchy areas and defines your beard for a thicker fuller look. Now any guy can easily transform their look anytime you want your beard to look its best for interviews dates going out to bars meetings

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Try new one day beard and brow from just for men today. Okay, let's let's figure out this this ticket thing right now and we'll talk a little final four. Did you fun fact about the final four? If Jim Laronega wins the championship, he will be the oldest coach in any sport to win a title. That's wild. Wild. Wait, now we're counting all college sports college. Yeah, college football, basketball and the four major pro sports. That is wild. And he would do it. I think he would be a month older than Dusty Baker was in October. So Dusty Baker gets like so he get Dusty gets like six months of being the oldest. Dusty Baker is older than Jim Laronega. But Dusty Baker was like 73 and five months when he won the World Series. Jim Laronega would be 73 and six months when he

wins if he wins the title. I like it. I mean, I feel like Miami is is kind of becoming a trendy pick right now, just because people don't want to see Yukon, right? Because it's the final four of underdogs. So you have which one of these underdogs is the most likely to win. And you'd probably say whoever wins the Yukon Miami game going to be heavily favored to win the championship. Yes. So hypothetically, who's line is it anyway? Miami against FAU. I don't think it would be that big of a two and a half. Yeah, I think it'd be like two, three. I don't think it would be that significant. Yukon if Yukon like kills Miami, they will be a significant favorite in the championship game. But yeah, I listen, I want Yukon to win because of my future, but I am scared to death

of Miami. I don't think I there's two ways that this game is going to go. And I'm hoping that Dan Hurley does the fun way because Yukon basically they have a lineup that I think could defensively stop Miami, but that lineup won't be as explosive offensively. I'm hoping he's like, fuck it, let's just go shot for shot. Yeah, you know what we really need? American needs Miami's super rich boosters to step up to the plate right now. Danny Boy Cane, Danny Boy Cane, Dave Portnoy, Dave Portnoy, all the lawyers, all the drug dealers get together and put a bounty on this game. Put like I'm tell the kids, you know, they created like an NIL company in Miami that does not actually, they don't actually have a product down there. They're just like, if you

come to Miami, we're going to pay you money. That's how it should be. So they created that they need to step up to the plate and all donate like tens of millions of dollars to split up as a bounty. If this Hurricanes team wins the national championship, put like some serious, serious money on the line, motivate the hell out of that's the only way that I see it happening actually. Because other than that, I feel like we're in store for two Yukon blowouts back to back. I would be fine with that. If I get all I really need out of this final four is just one close game, one classic, one classic game. I don't we got three chances at it. Give me one classic. I think that I think I think all of the games are going to be close. I honestly do.

Maybe not the championship game, but I think Saturday night we're going to have two like competitive close games. I really do. I don't think FAU and San Diego State either team is that much better than the other team in Miami. Like Miami, what if they just keep making all their shots? Yeah, then then I beat them. Yeah, it happened. Yeah. All right. So how should we decide who's going to sit in the last row in the stadium? Hmm. Do we do odds and evens? We could do we could do a random number generator in the person who's furthest away from it. Okay, one through 100. You want to do that? Well, no, because then we'll all pick. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we're not good at math. Yeah, we're in a business school right now. I think we

go odds and evens, right? Everyone comes memes and max come over here. You go one, two, three, shoot, you throw a one or two, and we keep shooting until one person, it has it by themselves. All right. Okay, here we go. So this is going to be for the San Diego State FAU game one person will buy tickets thanks to game time so that they can come down in the second in the second game. But for the first game, they're going to have to sit one single ticket last row in the stadium. Max is already defeated. You throw one or two. It's very easy. One, two, three, shoot, you throw a one or two three or four. No, you can't throw a three or four. Max looks like a four year old right now on the ground in kindergarten or evens. Oh, I guess we could do that. Yeah. You want to

do that? All right. All right. One, two, three, shoot. One, two, three, shoot. Do you want to do a practice round? Yeah. Okay. This is great. Everyone should be watching the YouTube. All right. No, this is not a practice. You just said no. Okay. Yeah. No, I know. Let's do one practice. Okay. One throw is zero. One, two, three, shoot. Okay. All right. So I would be out because I threw one. Yes. Yes. Here we go. Got it. One, two, three, shoot. All right. We got to go again. We got to just keep rapid fire. One, two, three, shoot. One, two, three, shoot. Terrible podcast. One, two, three, shoot. Damn it. All right. Oh, another loss in the back row, buddy. All right. So San Diego State FA will be sitting in the back row of NRG stadium. I'm excited. I

actually have I, oh no, that in Jerry's world, we went to Alabama, Wisconsin, and I almost had a heart attack climbing up those stairs. Might have been from extracurricular, but yeah, that was, yeah, so I'll be all the way up at the top for the first game. I can't wait. You get to see the whole court from up died from gas. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. The cops came over there like, is this your bus? We're like, yeah, they're like, you're like five minutes away from blowing up everyone around you. It's like, okay, cool. You're just, you're going to have the all 10 angle. Shadow game time. Going to get great seats. Great seats. I'll come down and join you guys from Miami, Yukon. Yeah, this will be fun. I'm excited. Tweet out the picture. She's being like,

hey, look how far away I am. Everyone's like, no seats, no seats, bro. All right. Anything else before we get to our interview? I saw that Celtics beat the box by 40. They did. And we're about to talk to Kirk Goldsbury. And while we were talking to them, they were playing and he's like, I like the bucks. And if they match up against something, they match up real well. Hank, so the Celtics are on fire now, right? They beat the bucks by a whole lot. They probably blew the doors off the wizards when they played. No, they lost to the wizards by 20. That was a tough loss. Really made the getting the one seat a lot harder. Zards played tough. Celtics were never in it. I don't really know what happened there. I think the Bucks are doing

some load management. I don't think so. Yeah, I don't think they might have just lost and they might have just lost. They're they're coming off of back to back. That's a Bucks fans. We also had a Celtics were coming off back to back. I think against. We had a hilarious double. No, they weren't almost double double ejection last night. We're pretty much a back to back pretty much. Kyrie and Russell Westbrook in separate games tried to kick fans out of the arena. Just so soft. They're dictators. The mass are fucking a joke. They're a disaster. Yeah. The one would be the six. The one guy got kicked out by Westbrook because he called him Westbrook, which is apparently you can't say that anymore. He said the W word. Yeah, you can't say that got

kicked out. But then he got kicked in after they determined you didn't tell him that he sucked or anything. You didn't cuss at him. You called him Westbrook. Yeah, we're sending you back to your seats, which I like. Yes, I like. I agree with that. You shouldn't you shouldn't swear at players. You shouldn't say anything vulgar to them or threaten them. But you can call him Westbrook. You can call him Westbrook. Yeah. Also, Pat Bev got too small by Austin Reeves, who Austin Reeves is very good, but great player. It really hurt because LeBron was like, you go do that. I'm not I'm above this. Yeah, this henchman take care of the light work for him. Yeah, doesn't want to get his hands dirty. That's the NFL is apparently exploring an international

division in football like an entire division. So expanding this was discussed at the owners meeting apparently. So everyone's been thinking London's going to get at least one team. Germany might get at least one team. And they're looking at other maybe Mexico City. I don't know. I don't know if it's going to be a European division or that would be wild, but a full division that's just international teams. Jaguars are going to London finally. They might be. They might be moving over there. There are two stadiums in London right now that are ready for NFL teams. Tottenham. And then I think the O2, the O2. No, Wimbly, which might be Tottenham. Yeah, I'm gonna have to fact check that. No, Wimbly is not Tottenham. But I like the idea of having

international rivalries. Yes, like I think they queen play queen Wimbly. Well, she's she's not playing anywhere now. Queen, queen, six feet under queen. But it'd be good to have like England versus Ireland in a rivalry. It's just another another move by the NFL to just own every hour of our lives. Yeah, because we will just be watching NFL football at 6am at 8am, just constant. Can you imagine an Italian team? I would love an Italian team. Italian team would be great. Yeah, maybe we get if we could actually get an NFL raked. Oh, yeah. Do you like to rig games there? Oh, yeah. There's a team in Sicily. Yeah, let's do it. Oh, where are the tightest pants? I'm in. I'm in. All right. Should we get to our interviews? Let's do it. Oh, one last thing

in hilarious politicians trying to talk about sports. Eric Adams today was on the Yankees broadcast and he called it Yankee Park. That's good. I love that. I always love it when it was like some some politician from Massachusetts that tried to pronounce Manino. Yeah, yeah. Hondo. Just just a couple guys talking ball. He called the called K J and Rondo K J and Hondo. It didn't what it was. Ted Cruz called it a basket goal. No goal basketball rim or basketball hoop. No, I think he called it a goal. Throw it through the goal or something like that. It's just always great. Damar Hamlin met with Biden today. Two guys that have been accused of being dead. That one plays. I think that one flew. Yeah, that one definitely flew. What else? That's about it.

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because I'm pretty sure I walked through the lobby after your win against Memphis just saying that wasn't that wasn't a jump ball guys that wasn't jump ball we got lucky we got lucky so um yeah apologies for that if I if I ruin the moment at all no worries actually I didn't meet any of you guys I went through quickly got out of the way but our players and I have three sons I have three sons 21 19 and 17 and they recognized everyone so I think they're spending too much time on bar stool sports yeah that's probably that's probably true so let's let's start with there though because this run has been incredible and with seven seconds left in the first round it could have been over uh have you had a moment to think like holy shit that was quite the sliding

doors moment of my career of FAUs you know trajectory like has that set in like that we were we were on the edge there we were about to be done yeah it seems like every big run when you look at national champions you look at final four participants usually out of their first four or five games they had one really scary moment where I even remember a coach Donovan at Florida got over the hump he had been knocked out the first weekend maybe four or five straight times and then Mike Miller Butler missed a free throw from a 90% shooter and Mike Miller hits a floater at the buzzer and the rest is history so it seems like every champion or final four participant has some type of storyline similar so um you know fortunately for us we didn't have to bank in an 80 footer

or anything like that like our guy made a good play at the rim and even I thought that the time out call is a little bit overblown because there was a stop and play a couple minutes prior that we had a three pointer waved off true and we didn't score in that possession so I think it's just when you lose those play steps stand out a lot more than than the winning team having having similar uh similar bad luck yeah might be a team of destiny I'd like to give you the opportunity to make your case for for Florida Atlantic as being America's team or America's sweetheart in this final four because I think we're all searching out there there's a lot of underdogs it would be one thing if it was you know ones and two seeds and then you guys but there's a

lot of underdogs out there so why is FAU America's team well we have a fun style of play to watch I think from day one we've wanted to be entertaining you're in Boca Raton Florida you need to do something other than just win and just play the game to get people into a gymnasium when it's 80 degrees and clear skies out so we want to have an entertaining brand of play and fortunately we had some guys buy into it and then on the other end we've got some pit bulls that compete every possession so I believe we're top 25 in the country in offensive metrics efficiency and this same with defensively so we play both sides of the ball we're very unselfish and we're a throw back team because we have a different best player almost every single game and you guys are physical

I saw you push back some people maybe in the lame stream media ESPN saying that you guys aren't physical you guys went and beat a very physical Memphis team a very physical Tennessee team why are why are people saying you guys are soft let's let's change that right now you guys are physical it's a great question I think we're 330th in the country in height and we're top 25 and defensive rebounding percentage so it's difficult to be soft and do that but I don't know and especially when you you watch our league UAB man they've got a high major big strong physical group I think you guys have seen them in your event and in north Texas is the same way so we've seen these types of teams in our league obviously you still have to go out and put in the work but we're confident

we can play any any style and figure out a way to win or at least be in position to win yeah you yes the conference USA is going for the triple crown you guys are you know you got two teams left in the NIT you won the CBI and you guys are in the final four so it's obviously a very good league absolutely and it's it's the best it's been since Derek Rose and Calipari work in Memphis as far as numbers and you know you look top to bottom there's some really good teams in our league that didn't make postseason yeah yeah you said before the Tennessee game and we are a big rugby podcast over here that you're gonna have to start watching some rugby to get ready for Tennessee style of play did you actually watch any rugby a few clips actually I don't even know

I'd seen on Twitter that there was a big people were complaining about Tennessee's physicality and I had no idea what what exactly it was but you know social media skews our minds anyway so immediately after the game they asked what I knew about Tennessee and I was more embarrassed than I confused Australian rules football and rugby and combined the sport so I was embarrassed by that but no I said it as a joke and just and if you said our team plays like a rugby team I'd say I'd say hell yeah let's get it I love it yeah it was funny because when you said that my initial reaction was one coach knows ball rugby is a very important sport globally two it's interesting because it almost reminded me of something that Phil Jackson used to say or how he would

you know treat the refs in the media he'd send a message through the media by you saying that you're like hey you better call it fair next game no more forearms no more elbows nothing like that I thought that was a good piece of coaching on your part well hopefully it helped maybe one possession but that wasn't why I said I was trying to be funny and sometimes when you're not that funny and you try that that's that you get the backlash yeah so sticking with your run we were in Dayton we fell in love with Fairleigh Dickinson Dave actually called his shot he said they're gonna beat Purdue and we had the theory that they were actually too short to play basketball did you notice that at all where it's like their lack of height was actually kind of shocking

and how much speed they had because that was a that was a tight game they gave you everything yeah well going back to the Purdue game as soon as we saw them play Texas Southern we said man this is gonna be a tough matchup for Purdue now we didn't call the win and obviously Dave he was he was out ahead of that one but we did think that if things didn't go well for Purdue then they could pull the upset in the first couple possessions the big fella missed a couple hooks in close and then their three point shooters produced three point shooters looked out of rhythm so from the from the first couple minutes it looked like it was going to be a scary game for Purdue and then when we played them I was blown away at their team speed and then they just found the

rhythm at the right time I you know after playing them and then playing the way they did I was I was like how did this team lose 15 16 games or whatever but then they you know they had a couple guys who were 30 percent shooters or 20 percent shooters who started making three or four threes a game and the heck that could be enough on on a given night yeah are you were you a little happy that Purdue went down because you're a Hoosier oh I was just happy that uh well I was I was shocked I said the staff and I were talking about we said we're going to be a double digit favorite to go to the sweet 16 so yeah it was just kind of a joke but we knew how difficult the game was going to be yeah it's funny after the game was over we went back to the hotel and you guys were getting in

and Dave went up to every player in your team was like nobody believed in us nobody he thought that you guys were fdu yeah well I don't think very many people picked us to beat Memphis either I thought they were terribly under seated I thought they were a really good team especially the last month of the season they were probably a top five or ten team in the country after drilling Houston the AAC championship so uh he probably said that and I doubt anyone in our travel party that team at that time even noticed yeah big cap brought up the uh the Indiana connection I was wondering we were talking about this on Monday's show you came up you were a student manager with Bobby Knight when he was the coach of the team did he did he give you any tips or is there anything

that you've incorporated into your coaching philosophy and coaching style that you got from Bobby Knight any any uh chair throwing things like that no I try not to throw any chairs but yeah there's there's not a day that goes by that I don't use something that I learned from coach Knight I don't think people realize how far ahead of his time he was as far as teaching communicating efficiency of his words efficiency of the you of the English language but he also used analytics that we use now that at the time you know he's talking about the percentage of defensive rebounds and and and these types of things and now they're considered the analytics movement well he was using a lot of that stuff back in the day so I just think in so many areas he

was ahead of his time he was an unbelievable teacher and just things were a lot different than than they are now that's interesting they said efficiency efficiency of language is my new favorite like that put that in on it yeah no is there anything uh like that's a it's really interesting because like obviously we can see where that would take us with his fiery personality but also at the same time I have to imagine that as a coach sometimes less can be more you don't want to you don't want to overdo it with information that that you're passing along with you know when a fewer or a simpler concept might work is that fair two side notes number one I was a probably sophomore manager and I was in charge of stats and he asked for a score there's three teams playing

and and as a 19 year old you said hey red has three gray has this and he says gee mini blah blah red two gray five white one now and at that point I said you know what I was just mumbling and rambling to say that I was given way too many details or way too much information and then the other one coach and I used to say the word the f word could be used as a noun verb adjective so I guess that may be part of the the efficiency of the English or the the use of the English language yeah so uh the ball has been a big point of contention in this tournament have your guys complained about it do they do they feel different uh shooting this ball we got to get to the bottom of the ball well they add it it's a brand new ball and I don't think there's a ball made that you

can pull out of a box air it up to its maximum whatever it is and then go out and balance it and it feels like what you use every single day because you don't get a new ball every day so hopefully these the basketballs have been used a little bit and they're worn down because I think the newness is the biggest part but it seems like we should have one universal ball for college basketball for every team to use and I know they use one ball for the NCAA tournament but every game we go to we have to practice a different we have a closet full basketballs we have to practice with a different whenever week depending on where we're playing so I would think it's time for all of us to come together and even if we have to sacrifice a few thousand dollars into our overall

budget to have one basketball for the betterment of the game yeah why can't you guys just take all the balls that they're going to be using the final four and just just practice with those all week well we've accumulated several now and actually we have the game balls from our games and one of our players came in yesterday morning to shoot he said hey can I use these because we only have like two of the regular basketballs that we purchased so I said you know what you can use these it doesn't matter just make sure you're bringing them back because they are the game balls from the FAU's first sweet 16 and the lead oh yeah yeah when what about the stadium because the NRG stadium this is a big thing we talk about you guys I'm sure you guys talk about we talk about for a

different reason uh whenever you get into a football stadium and you're trying to shoot has your team ever played well you did play the conference USA championship is in Jerry is in Jerry's world of the practice facility yeah it's in the the practice facility they they they curtain off half of the the stadium and there's two courts set up simultaneous and then so there's curtain behind one side and then they use the stands on the other so it's a big open arena it's different it's we so we probably played in the closest thing to a true football stadium as anyone playing yeah yeah because it definitely is an issue I feel like every time we get to the final four speaking of the conference USA why is jelly walker the best player you've ever coached against

because we love him I'm a big I'm a big jelly walker fan but I'm not taking anything away from marquise noel that okay yeah okay and the state guard man those these new york city guys because usually that the small dynamic guards they they really score and put a lot of pressure on your defense but noel he might go get 30 and 20 we feel like we did an unbelievable job on him and he got 30 and 12 so and then so go ahead yeah well I was gonna say I I thought that you watched the michigan state game and maybe I'm way off and I don't know ball but I thought that part of your game plan was let's let him shoot more let's give him more opportunities to shoot because we'll take a three-point shot from him instead of him throwing a perfect pass for an easy layup

or dunk was that part of your game plan with him it was we wanted to first take away as many of us of his assist as we could and then we wanted him to take shots at the rim or the mid-range we actually wanted he's slightly more efficient from three than he is in the paint or from mid-range but his his shots around the three-point line are extremely efficient fortunately he takes some that are really really deep that skews his his numbers a little bit but he is he's a special talent and for him to play 40 minutes the way he does I don't know if we faced a better guard and I thought Kendrick Davis was sensational jelly walker Tyler Perry from north texas was our league's player of the year and they play low possession and he puts up great numbers so we faced that we

faced Antoine Davis who just came up shy of pistol Pete's record yeah probably a who's who of dynamic guards this year and when you look across the board our guys have pretty much made them score officially almost every time we played them yeah would you would you like to apologize to America for for knocking him out for knocking Noel out of the tournament absolutely okay that's the that's the right answer that was a test how much of your recruiting technique is just like if you were to split it up between x percentage basketball stuff and x percentage look at the beach here's the beach you're in you're in south Florida isn't the beach cool well we obviously when they're on their official visits we go to the beach and we eat our meals on the beach and and

we do our photo shoot on the beach and we on the beach on on the beach on the beach but then once they get here we condition a couple times on the beach and other than that we never go to the beach except we do tell them hey on Sundays if you enjoy the ocean go hang out in evenings after you've got you put in your work if you want to go hang out we even have a couple players that sometimes they'll go at 6am and read and meditate we've got a serious group that's always looking for the best way for them so we use it a little bit but the thing we sell is is the perfect weather all year the blue skies the the quality of life you can wear shorts you walk around campus and just how much better you feel when the sun is out 365 days out there so we sell that part of it

that you're going to have more energy you're going to feel better because of the the natural beauty than than you would going up to to wherever wherever you know who else is recruiting that's a good sales pitch so i i read a story that uh when you signed with fAU you had a moment of regret and it's funny because we actually were talking to uh danny hurley on monday's show and he had a similar moment where he was like what the hell is going on here this is a mess so that moment you cried did you cry yeah you said moment of regret made me choke on my water um i did and the media we just had about a hundred media members and they asked me about it they said what would 2023 tell 2018 dusty may hit i'd say tell him stop being a big baby and stay the course and get to work so

it was just it was overwhelming i was leaving the complete and utter happiness and one thing in our business i've tried not to ever chase anything other than happiness and professional fulfillment so but yeah it was overwhelming to time i i was very impulsive signing the contract going too fast and then when i saw everything i was just overwhelmed in that moment but luckily my wife is is tough she's tough as now she basically told me that hey this is the decision you made there's nothing we can do now you might as well get to work and and by the next day i was in the trenches again yeah so you mentioned your son uh have you given him some shit because he's a walk on in florida right well we gave him some stuff we went up to florida and beat those guys so yeah but now he's your

his dad's going to the final four i would assume you would have had a roster spot for him and instead he was didn't make the tournament yeah i have a middle son that's a walk on at ucf it was never an option for them to play for me oh okay yeah i've the last week they're they're calling me ted lasso and it's something that i've evolved into being mild and cool calm and collected because by nature i'm i'm nuts like a lot of coaches used to be and so when i still coach my sons it's hard for me not to be nuts so my wife said from early on you'll never coach the boys no matter how good they are and as a coach you if you're going to coach your sons they either have to be way too good above your level or they have to be not good enough to ever play if they're ever in between that gray

areas wait it's yeah so this is your wife's fault like are they like i would be pissed if my dad was in a final four and i was like i didn't i didn't get to go i wasn't playing on the team well luckily you know and i'm close with both staff so i'm fortunate both of them have a place in in this game and can be a part of it but fortunately those both of their seasons were done are done and so they're traveling with us now and f a u's been awesome with taking our families and letting everyone's family share this experience because that's probably the coolest part other than watching your players put in all this work and and receive what's what's going on seeing your family who you drag them all over the country changing schools daycares jobs all that and

heck i was obsessed i would just leave and my wife would have to sell the house organize the moves all that kind of stuff while raising three three boys so it's it's awesome just to be able to share that with them yeah well so you mentioned you uh before we started taping that you were on the sidelines for uh the buzzer beater florida vs wisconsin the sweet 16 uh fuck you first of all second of all uh i guess tell me what it felt like from your point of view because it was utter heartbreak for mine i mean the video uh that's the beauty of barstool is we videotape everything so i get that tweeted to me anytime that that like the shot comes up it's just i get tagged under it constantly would you call that your moment of weakness but get no i would still

say that when when we were up nine against duke at halftime of the national championship that was probably the weakest i've been but it was a weak moment for sure that was the brian butch team no brian butch was a long time ago you yeah no that was uh frank caminski and sam decker okay yeah those guys yeah yeah but yeah that that that sucked for me you i mean you have to admit that that was lucky well it would have thought it out but let's rewind the wisconsin has the ball we're uh in position to foul we knock it loose in the backcourt uh i forget the guards they've show walter grabs it and he hits a floater to send it into overtime so a floater to go into overtime is somewhat lucky and i would say that's a shot he made that shot all year

so you see my point it's a lot like the miss calls in one of these games where it follows miss call the the winning team uh so yeah you get my point but yeah how about that a floater to go over time and a floater to win the game yeah yeah i mean there were good shots both of them i as a fan of the sport of basketball i had to take my hat off and say that's that's just a good shot yeah and obviously a rod sitting course i added to the yeah yeah show walter did the discount double check it is funny because you actually just proved your initial point for the first question that like i do black out the fact that we had a lucky bounce uh all i think about is like man we got screwed so you're right you're right okay that makes me feel a little bit better

did you guys go on to win go to the final four that year no we were up big against south caroline it damn literally they shot like 25 freethos in the second half and they were tough and they had you know obviously thornwell and dozier and and all those guys ended up three of those guys ended up playing extensive playing multiple seasons in nba so it was a heck of a team and and yeah they they found a way to win but a great run by brutal uh here's a tip because you've never been to a final four i've been to two um so if you went on saturday try not to go to the bar on sunday for 14 hours because you still got a game on monday noted okay all right because that's that's uh that was a mistake i made i made that mistake i i was the day that wisconsin played duke i was drinking

petal light in my uh hotel room being like how am i going to get myself off the mat here so just don't do that saturday you went to the bar sunday and i'm assuming you were over served i i didn't leave hank hank's not in the room right now but i literally we went to the bar at like 11 a.m and i didn't go home till two i was like i'm staying i'm because i was like i may never get back here um which is proven to be correct but uh yeah try to try to keep a little something in the tank for monday no promises but i'll do i'll do my best maybe just eight hours at the bar just beer only no all right no shots yeah okay just maybe one shot right when you get there but then that's it then you're done yeah uh when you're when you're going up against a coach that's

that's super fiery like if you were to coach against danie hurley uh does it do you step your game up in that situation where you see him you know screaming every word under the sun at the refs doing the scowl at the refs do you then have to be like okay i need to match that intensity or is it just going to be dusty just dusty is going to be dusty every day just dust in the wind i'm going to be me just hanging out not not getting too emotional it's not who i am anymore and i'll lose my voice too quickly and then i'll never be able to help our guys the rest of the game yeah yeah dusty is a great name by the way it is dusty is a fake name yeah you're you're born if you're going to be named like skip or dusty you're going to be a coach at some point yeah

was it a situation where the name led you into coaching no i hated it my whole life until i became an adult and then i would meet people and 20 years later they would remember dusty may and so i was like wow what this is actually pretty cool my profession that i can meet people and they always remember me even if i have no idea who they are so i've actually used it as a positive i never liked it before i don't particularly like it now but um i've rolled with it yeah i mean memorable yeah i think we said it sounded like a porn star from the 80s well i think titus and those guys i remember uh there was a show and it was either i was a nascar driver a professional wrestler or a basketball coach yeah i think it's a basketball coach third yeah or an allergy advisory yeah

yeah yeah that's exactly it all right i have a couple nerdy basketball questions for you one is your team is phenomenal shooting the three you guys play you know four out five out in terms of recruiting like is it as simple as we won't recruit anyone who can't shoot because you see teams all the time struggle with finding those shooters and uh how does that like is that something day one you're building like if you can't shoot i'm not recruiting we try not to recruit anyone that can't shoot and if you can't shoot then you have to have one really unique skill you could be an elite playmaker elite passer and we feel like if you're a lead in one of those other areas we can find a way for you to be successful what we've tried to do is take really

good athletes who are smart and tough and are good shooters and feel like because of the work we put into it that we can help them become really good shooters so we feel like we have a group that's tough athletic strong can guard but also they are all good shooter or they they were good shooters that become really good shooters but they can also dribble pass as well which i think that's what makes us unique that they all can put it on the floor and catch and shoot and really defend at a high level yeah i mean you'd be shocked with how many teams i feel like i watch where it's like none of these guys can shoot so it's it's refreshing to see a team that's like you you can't leave anyone open obviously is a complete mismatch hell for the other team um and the other question

was the transfer portal a lot of people hand wringing about the transfer portal oh my god it's going to ruin college basketball uh you've done a really good job of getting guys from power five conferences to go to f a u how like i think that's the the beauty of the transfer portal that a lot of people don't see that you get the movement both ways it's not just oh the best guy on wafford's gonna go play at kentucky like you can get guys who maybe aren't getting time at power five to come to f a u what's the pitch there well anytime there's a power five i would say anytime because we have three on a roster and two of them were were situations where they're plug and play guys we need a point guard your point guard you're coming down for a reason because you you're coming down a level

because you want to play and be a major have a major role excuse me and then we had a our starting center left to go play uh professionally in europe a couple years ago he had a bad knee so he needed to start making some money with his career so we had a starting position open so we got two of our power five guys because we had an immediate need and so they were plug and play and then the third one jaylen gaffney i'd known him because we recruited him at florida and he was just looking for something different when he left uconn and so because of the relationship we didn't need a guard we had everyone back but he just wanted to be a part of it and he's been he's received almost no credit but he's had his huge huge imprint on our success because of his intelligence and his selfishness

and him just wanted to be a part of a really good team so it's been unique that all three of those guys are major contributors but i don't think we would bring one in that we didn't think could play a major role because they would be frustrated because they're leaving a lot of nice stuff where they're not playing to go to a place where may not have as nice stuff where they're not playing yeah what about your son he's at a power five conference right now he enters the transfer portal i know you said that you're not allowed to coach and what if he just says you know what i'm gonna transfer to fa u do you have to resign at that point well i've even said too that i don't know if it's it's completely healthy to have my sons in the locker room i have a great relationship

with them but i would never want our players to think that they're telling me what's what's being said in there i just unless it's the only option or whatever the case i don't think it's a good fit and i want them to go grow into their own there be their own men develop who they want to be their personalities and and probably if they're here i'm gonna have too much oversight and control over uh you know who they are so i want them to grow make some mistakes learn from them and just just decide who they want to be as people that's probably healthy i see i see there's a bunch of stuff written behind you on the whiteboard do we have to blur that out are you giving away this competition spirit no it's it's it's the traits we talk about in recruiting and then

oh so give it to us yeah well how recruit us act like me and big cat are in your living room you guys obviously have the competitive spirit that's number one gotta have that coach first question do you have a beach i'm really into the beach do i have you we have a beach okay i'm in so first question for me i shuttle the beach from campus first question for me i can't shoot at all but i have a competitive spirit would i be a match well we were always looking for a good 14th man so yes it doesn't close any doors uh functional intelligence you guys are probably out on that one yeah no that's that's not a not a good fit the word functional completely ruins it for us yeah basketball skills i you know okay i'm the exact same size as marquis no well i can give you

a look i mean scout team marquis and then speed physical and mental i think you guys have the mental speed you guys are quick with but i don't think you have the physical speed so probably not a great fit for the owls no no um all right so i have a very important question i got a couple more questions about one very important one and uh you're gonna have to start prepping yourself for this because you've done a great job with fAU but knowing how the big 10 works and knowing how the indiana fan base works uh if you have more success they're gonna just be tweeting that picture of you in a red sweater and being like coach you want to come home you want to come home to indiana what are you gonna say to that because that's gonna happen

i mean they indiana fans are still asking for brad stevens to go to indiana i'm gonna say i absolutely love my time in that state and the basketball there is a religion uh coach woodson and his staff are doing an unbelievable job they've got a great team they got it rolling but i love being here i i don't know uh how how you could ever leave these guys in this situation from what we built and and the direction we're going and the growth the growth opportunities here this place is it's amazing how fast this university athlete department are growing and hopefully this just speeds up the process even more okay good answer counterpoint hoosiers the movie i pop that in and i'm like check it out dusty and then you start crying

and then i seal the deal well that that's different yeah you coach stays i stay coach goes i go what team is on the floor yeah exactly you know coach i i i measured the height of the basket at f a u at the height of the basket in indiana it's the exact same height it is the the dimensions are the same actually a couple people asked me if i'm gonna do that in uh in the dome in texas i'm not but uh it reminds me yesterday one of the reporters asked me how tall are you and i said five ten with shoes let's make sure we're clear that i only measure myself with shoes so yes yes uh you got you got uh tom herman down there at f a u two you guys are building a little good it's like the new cradle of coaches down there tom herman is one of my favorite college

football coaches because of his longhorn hydration chart that he would post up in in the bathrooms we would show on a scale of how dark your p was whether or not you're a bad guy or a good teammate has he put those up around any of the athletic facilities is he monitoring people's level of urine not yet but i'm i'm assuming he'll monitor big cats on on sunday in between the games yes yes that's a good call um all right my last question roback question rhobcck.com great joggers polo's q zips if you're in bokeh riton you're trying to golf roback has you covered use promo code take for 20 off your first purchase my last question is actually i'm gonna give you another tip so i'm giving you all my tips i'm doing a brain dump for you

i do watch a lot of college basketball uh usually when san diego states down like seven or eight the game is over i'm going to tell you right now that's not the case this year because there's been multiple times in this tournament where i've been like oh they're done they won't be able to find seven or eight points so don't think that you've won if you're up like 12 to four no uh celebratory dances before the buzzer sounds yes yes because they're different they're different this time it it confuses my brain there's some teams wisconsin virginia some of those teams like if you open up a 10 point lead there's no they can't score that many points so if we have a 10 point lead how early can i break out into the gritty oh i think maybe like a minute and a half

left i was gonna say half yeah do a half time half up 10 yeah yeah make your free throws you got to make your free throws that's the big thing you have to make your free throws that's the i stress that all the time do you guys simulate they're a lot like us they they they found ways to win just about every night and a lot of a lot of nights it looks differently but man they're a good basketball team yeah do you guys simulate pressure in practice when it comes to shooting free throws is there anything that you do to turn up the heat on guys and see you know okay you're under the gun right now go shoot your free throws and you see what happens yeah we have competitions we try to do everything we can to add a little bit of pressure but our guys now being a veteran group they've

been in these game moments so many times i think you just once you're in it you know how it feels you know how to prepare better so because of our guys have been in these situations so many times i think they're they're more comfortable than than a lot of younger teams yeah yeah well dusty thank you so much we appreciate the time i am upset that you mentioned that florida thing with the buzzer beater um that's going to put me in a little bit of a spiral for the rest of the day but that's okay uh we're rooting for you and uh we're excited to see you live in houston we get get the owls ready to go and maybe yeah do do the you you can go viral if you just do the the tape measure for the for the basket like you should do that i'll consider okay that's why i do this

for an opportunity to go viral yeah yeah exactly that's i mean isn't that the goal of all coaching that's the goal just just go viral i also you what you did to uab in the conference championship game that was mean that was too much you guys that was too much i was watch it yeah of course i watched it i'm i love jelly and i was like i think they i think uab was up like 15 to 14 and then the next thing it was like a 20 point lead for fAU and you got everyone off the scent too because you guys would have been an at-large team but you win the conference usa and everyone's like oh it's just one of those you know small conferences that's an auto bid so i guess that worked in your favor it did i was you know i was i didn't want to lose but if we did we did it would be it would

mean two conference usa teams got in in the same year because the uab north texas there are other teams that were that are good enough to be playing in the tournament but you know how it goes if you lose one game here or one game there it knocks you out yeah yeah so yeah that was not nice i jelly walkers my guy so yeah i'll accept your apology all right uh coach best of luck and uh looking forward to saturday appreciate it enjoy the show thanks guys dusty may was brought to you by our great friends over at pupperoni what breed of dog do you guys think would be a number one pick in the basketball draft i've got an easy answer you're taking my my i'm going to airbud oh that's proving it on the court airbud was elite pupperoni treats have the taste and aroma that dogs find

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uh classroom we just finished teaching his business class at the university of texas so let's start there how do you think we did because we have to be the dumbest it was pft hank and i and we have to be the dumbest people ever to teach a business class i don't think that's true uh but my students were thrilled to have you guys in our classroom it means a lot that you guys would come here uh they all love your show your show is very popular at the university texas and i think we we saw that in class today with the enthusiasm that you guys received so thank you for joining us we appreciate you having us nobody offered us an honorary doctorate or drugs or drugs which usually we get on the road can you give us uh can you give us an honorary

honorary doctorate yeah i think you guys are almost an honorary doctorate stage an honorary mba has been bestowed upon both of you let's go and i don't have the authority to do that but let's just go with it congratulations so it was a great we we loved being here um but i will say at the end i asked you a question and you basically cut the entire class short because i think it was like the scene when they pull back the curtain on wizard of oz i asked simply do you kirk goldsbury think that you took part in ruining basketball because we do oh it hurts basketball is my favorite thing in the world the fact that people would even say that big cat it breaks my heart but you you're one of the first people to point out that three is more than two yeah well three is more than

two and mid-range shooting has gone down and and we've helped sort of illustrate why that is but man i as i said to my class kevin durant great longhorn uh back in action this way yeah what are you doing at tournament he's a great longhorn legend uh two finals mvp he was on campus for what four months he keeps coming back though he's a big part of the program uh but i love the mid-range shooting and kevin is is breaking the math right now if you look at his mid-range he's arguably having the greatest mid-range season in the history since we've been tracking this for 25 years and he's breathing life into it and it's beautiful to watch so how do we do that how do we bring back mids you just need more kevin durant's more guys who are seven feet tall yeah demarger

rose and chris paul uh guys who can make that shot at a 48 50 clip like those dudes kevin's almost 60 right now it's incredible wait so what is the actual math where it's a mid-range shot is more valuable than a three point shot like if someone's shooting 38 from three yeah what's the math for the for the uh two so an average mid-range shot is worth about 0.8 points because they go in 40 percent of the time there were two points uh an average three point shot goes in 35 percent of the time that gets you to 1.05 so an average paint shot how can i explain it paint and threes are each worth a little over one and mid-range is sitting here at 0.8 for the leak now there are exceptions to that rule and we just went through kevin paul george what are those worth what is

kevin durant's mid-range that's a great question so right now it's funny because an average kevin mid-range shot is going in 60 percent of the time pretty close this year which brings it close to a really good three-point shooter's number okay and so kevin is and by the way he's not taking easy ones he's dribbling in the face of the best defender their opponent can put and he's still doing it uh and and it's he's having an incredible season we just hope he can stay healthy because it's it's so unique to watch and devin booker on his team and chris paul on his team the phoenix sons this year have a chance not only when the championship but doing it in the mid-range he's putting like he's doing the same thing he did with the nets it would be a massive massive

yeah disappointment yeah if chris paul and the sons did not win the championship this year and ryan rocillo i don't know if you guys know this huge chris paul guy yeah huge chris paul guy yeah and he expects big things from the suns this year listen this is good because i'm not rooting for the suns and you are uh you famously came on the show and told us the the brooklyn nets have the greatest offense you've ever seen in your entire life and then uh for all 23 games they played yeah kevin durant actually tried to carry them kairi got anti-semitic like a lot of things happened since then it's crazy to think back it was 2021 and i remember kevin was carrying that team he was and he was he had his i was at that game seven and he had his toe on the line yep you

didn't factor that in on such a heater moment that i knew that shot was going in and i was already looking at his feet and i was on tv i wasn't there i'm not a big shot like you big cap but dude i mean they were that close even without uh the injured players that year they were very close the bucks obviously end up going on to to win the championship uh and they're a great team too but yeah they were they were pretty close but you know that's that's the league now they're dismantled yes if a game was played on a spreadsheet they would be the best team ever assembled they would beat the dream team definitely the dream team will beat them have you gone back and tried to quantify the dream team and just how good all i know about them is they never took a time out

they never used one the thing with the 1992 dream team is they were obviously a great assemblage of american talent michael jordan and magic johnson larry bird larry magic at the end yeah christian layner obviously deserved a thomas over shack uh uh yeah isaiah thomas wasn't there i don't know i don't remember why but the thing that's changed since then the most in in then 30 or 40 years since then is uh the world is caught up you know 12 years later manu jnobly my friend from the spurs beats team usa and athens and now you know team usa isn't getting much worse we're still very very good but you you don't go into the 92 olympics thinking you're gonna lose if you go into these paris olympics you're going against a french team that's gonna have lemba nyama go bare uh nick

batum like a five five starting mba players on their home turf and you're like oh my god like we could legitimately lose yes yeah yeah so all right so let's talk a little mba yeah let's do it um let's do the west first because it is absolutely chaotic uh what like is there any team that you confidently can sit here and say i feel good about them getting to like the at least the conference finals no it's the weirdest season it's just the weirdest conference season i've ever seen period i mean you look at it to me big cat it's the unproven teams who have deserved the top three seeds you have memphis which has their issues denver's at the very top in sacramento and then on the bottom half you have the illuminati you have stef curry kevin durant kawai lenard uh and

lebron james right and luca outside if you look at who's won the finals mvps for the last 10 years those guys i just named have won most of them and they're now sitting in the bottom half of the western bracket against unproven teams up top so all of my friends in the mba media are going to have okay so let's say it's the warriors nuggets in eight one it's like well if you believe the regular season the nuggets are going to wipe the floor here the the warriors can't win on the road but if you believe in stef curry and draymond green and clay tomson steve curry you're gonna be like so nobody knows what to trust if you believe like the last five ten years mba basketball the teams on the bottom half have a legitimate chance if you believe what we've seen all season it's denver

sacramento and memphis i tend to side with the players like i think there's going to be some upsets in these first round series yeah and if you're denver sacramento after these great season you see stef curry lebron james i know first round what a bummer but yeah i was i was reading your article uh the most recent one about yokich's issues on defense actually i i should i should preface that by saying i didn't read the article yeah i read the first three paragraphs before it became espn plus only and then i read the first the last two sentences as it was fading out i just read his instagram caption okay so yeah so you hate yokich and he gets he gets dunked on all the time by shitty players yeah i'm honored that story did really well for us at espn

but it was really cool because it was the first time one of my articles was labeled a hatchet job by an mba coach yeah but you were just using numbers mike malone called it a hatchet job and i was like these are just facts i'm right but in reality on march 10th nicole yokich went to san atoni i was big favorite and this viral video emerged you guys probably saw that i was all over the mba internet on twitter is just yokich layup line spurs guys just beating him it's the most points any room protector has given up all year i went and looked at a bunch of numbers and he's giving up more points per game on layups as the closest defender of any player in the player tracking area which is now 10 years uh and so i brought that up because it's in the heat of this

this chance for the nuggets to finally get out of the western conference for yokich to be a three-time mvp and i didn't think it was a loud enough part of the conversation so i was just like hey guys what about this uh and that's the hatchet job i got labeled for but in all seriousness when i look at the mvp race nicole yokich's defense is a big sort of consideration that i don't think's being talked about in defense he is that room protector yeah so the other two guys are incredible defenders yannis is my favorite defender in the world the bucks have one of the best defenses in the league and i think the sixers are currently ranked sixth in defense and envies a huge part of that right uh you know meanwhile denver's middle of the pack or mediocre and of

the 16 playoff teams if you look at denver's performance and defense of the last three years they rank 12th 12th and 16th in the last three years it's been their demise right and yokich is really important centers have an outsized importance like quarterbacks on offense and football centers on defense and basketball tell me who your center is and i'll tell you how good your defense is in the mba is there any historical basis for teams that are middle of the pack on defense elevating their game in the playoffs though and like turning it on like i think one of the late sort of chubby shack era lakers teams as he played himself into shape like during the regular season was was middle of the pack on on defense but it was shack by the time the playoffs came

around and it was a problem but it is so fascinating because the mba i love the mba playoffs i obviously like it's it's my it's one of my favorite i love basketball but the regular season feels like it doesn't mean as much and what more than anything any other sport it's like similar to who's your who's your center it's like who you're starting five in the playoffs because yeah you can win a lot of games in the regular season trying a little bit harder like you know getting people on off nights but then when you have to play in the playoffs it's like who's going to be playing in the fourth quarter who's going to get stops that's the team right and that's why these two sort of unproven teams in the west right now are near the over indexing on the betting odds right like if

you look at the the golden state warriors who are terrible on the road well they're starting five if they can get them together right if wiggins comes back it's like the numbers are great and we saw last year they're pretty good and then the phoenix team is like oh they have kevin dirant now right all the regular season numbers so i wanted to ask you guys this is like it's starting to feel more like the nhl right like who's hot yeah who's healthy yeah during the stretch run is that just the reality for basketball that sort of seems with the western conferences yeah the eastern conference is sort of more normal yeah and it's the it's the old pat riley which is like one of my favorite quotes about nba basketball it's uh start what is it play trust eight place or no yeah trust seven

play trust seven play yeah yeah right like you're you when you get to the playoffs there's you're gonna play seven guys yeah like that's just really what it comes down to yeah meaningful minutes yeah and i think some of these teams like the lakers are another good example that was not who this team was in october november december if lebron ad show up healthy with these guys they got at the trade deadline like the regular season legitimately doesn't matter if he's doing the espn so because if the lakers win one game everyone on espn's like watch out for the lakers yeah but what you're also doing is you're saying like the lakers should win in the playoffs which i like because i want to be disappointed in lebron if they lose in the playoffs it's their it's their championship to lose it's

this is what you just said i mean you just said lebron james and ad aggregate folks i mean just think about those two they should dominate i do think the lakers are very fascinating what i was saying is the rate they're bad the regular season identity is a bad yeah but b not indicative of who they are going into the playoffs like they haven't been healthy and they haven't had all these supporting pieces they're playing great defense they're simply one of the better mba teams in the last 15 games or so and that was without lebron for a vast majority of that they're scary so they're better without lebron dude lebron no they are definitely not better with a hey they did a lot at the trade deadline big cat that made them a dangerous team and to your point they have seven or eight dudes

that can play playoff basketball shoot threes defend they kind of resemble and i know where you guys are gonna go with this they resemble the team we saw in the bubble like they're physical they're stronger um and they're playing great defense uh and and and they take like 150 more free throws in the next team i don't know if you saw that stat yeah they're physical team that's what it is but i'll say this you know what is is i think the dominant trait of this mba season guys is it's wide open and i know i think that's more fun and we saw it march man nobody knows who's gonna win the thing with lebron's legacy is for eight years in a row we knew the eastern conference playoff preview was pretty simple yeah it's the cast it's the heat or whatever and it's like

what i love about this year is that man nobody has a good feel for who's coming out of either side yeah we respect the kings on this podcast by the way we respect them we know everything about them i just want to hear from you why other people out there should also respect the kings because we we definitely do in word offense these dudes are scoring more points at a higher rate than anybody and they destroy really good defenses in big moments and it's not a fluke i mean fox and sabonis are just the chemistry couldn't be better that kevin herter who they got from atlanta has emerged as one of like these this clay thompson light like a catch and shoot threat who spaces it out and then they just are fast and young and smart and what they aren't is defense so the haters case against

the kings is is on the other side of the court which is weird because mike brown their coach built his reputation as this defensive genius so you know one of the stats guys that i i i know mba team has won the championship with a defense that's ranked 11th or worse than the regular season in a very long time and they are not checking that box the denver nuggets are not checking that box so and that's yeah i mean that makes sense because it really does like when the game slow down in the fourth quarter and it's a half court game it's like you got to get a stop yeah and there's no bad teams to you get exposed if you play yonis in a seven game series if you play lebron and ad in a seven game series and you don't get stops like they're going to smell blood

and they're going to just destroy you over and over again chris paul like these players luka donch it's i you know whoever makes it's like you can't cover up bad defense well luka's a bad defender yeah i want i actually want you to do an advance stat how many points luka gives up complaining calls on the other end oh so i went to eurobasket and watched them play for slovenia which was awesome by the way like watching international basketball in europe but i came home being like this guy is just giving up so many fast break points yeah like you talk about hockey there's a power play yeah seven times a game because it's five on four because he's back on the plane yeah i need that advanced stat how many times too many times i'll look it up for you

what about the opposite of yokich which would be rudy gobert yeah in minnesota people are people aren't respecting the timberwolves enough if they're a team that checks a defense a box why aren't we talking more about the timberwolves as a society yeah as a society i think it's it's a conversation we need to have more of pft and i think you guys provide a platform where we can talk about the minnesota timberwolves and feel comfortable just just make it so that our listeners in minnesota they've had a tough time probably as long as they've been alive for their sports are is this year that timberwolves can win at least one postseason series this has nothing to do with pfts oh no i forgot that i had that massive massive future on them so the where the timberwolves are is the

short answer is yes but you got to watch these matchups and what's happening in the lower half of the western bracket right now is chaos like you could i don't know who's going to be the six seven eight nine ten eleven it's all jumbled up if they get minnesota i'm sorry if they get the team like uh memphis or if they get a team like sacramental or denver of course they can everybody's unproven they played pretty well in the playoffs last year um they got a chance they're playing well now too in my opinion i think most people think they have a very good coach uh rudy gobert anthony edwards are are pretty good players but it's going to be a matchup dependent thing they got a chance who should who should minnesota fans be rooting for them to match up against the first round would

it be sacramento you know what i think that's the normal that's the obvious choice everybody wants sacramento because they're sacramento and like they haven't been good in our lifetime like since like vladi divach was there and and this is their first time in the playoffs congratulations to them it's one of my favorite stories light the beam i i mean the fact that they were almost they moved and everything like that's a diehard group of fans that deserve it yeah and i don't roast people on on in social media as much as you guys but i i did like make fun of light the beam when it first came out i made some stupid joke like well they're not gonna need a lot of energy to fight and i was like and one of their coaches texted me who i worked with at the spurs and was like f you we're

gonna get it together and sure enough they did and i'm happy to see it i love it i want that team in that city to be great that said i do think whether you're talking about the lakers you're talking about the warriors you're talking about the timber wolves the team in that lower half they might be picking sacramento because that defensive and also deli deli's plus minus is 16 wins this year over what they had last year so the intangibles he brought that would be fucked up though if it was the kings and the lakers in the playoffs and lebron got all the calls and it's just a has that ever happened before that would that would be heartbreaking i don't want any walkers halftime show as my friend likes to call it but yeah that that will bring back memories

but it's cool to have that that there and the other interesting thing that could happen is is golden state playing sacramento which is like a regional thing like they're 90 minutes apart and it'll be like this cool thing for northern california to have that so east yeah um couple thoughts one is uh it feels like the bucks are it feels like last year they had chris middleton injury he's he's getting back he's starting to play a little bit better if the bucks have everyone healthy it feels like they it's like almost like a defense of their title in 2021 um is that fair to say that's where i'm at because you know last time they were healthy they got there and they wanted and so they deserve that respect uh boston deserves respect philadelphia the thing is the east

does really deserve respect i'll tell you i'll tell you what's going on the east is sort of the new west like for the last 20 years the west was stacked and when i work with the spurs it's like oh my god we're playing like chris paul in the first round or whatever it is and it's like they're the seventh seed or we're the seventh seed and it's like that's where the east is right now so it's cleveland is playing really well philly is really good the nicks are fun i mean you know but i keep coming back to milwaukee drew holiday scored 50 points he's their third option right uh you know when brook lopez is playing defense like he is they're impossible to score on in the paint and yanis is the most terrifying help defender in the league like the best free safety and basketball

can guard anyone and chris middleton as you said is just gives them another threat to get a bucket and when they did win they wouldn't have won without him right when they did win he got so many late game buckets that yanis like if there's a limitation yanis's game it's late game execution yeah they deserve to be the favorites they have the best record without chris a lot of the year um i think they they deserve to be the favorites coming out of the east so hank is sitting over here he actually has been pretty honest that he's a maybe not nervous but something has been off with the celtics what is what has been off you know they've really leaned into shooting a lot of threes this year and when those threes are going in they look that's your

fault that's your fault that's literally your fault partially they're shooting all these three i have no idea but like in october november they were making all of them 40 up and down the roster and then they they stopped going in their offensive efficiency tanks and they start losing and not a lot of games but enough that milwaukee catches up and you know i think at worst their offense depends a lot on three-point shooting and jason tatum isolation and it doesn't always work and and i think the the offense is the thing to watch there in a playoff series against defenses like cleveland potentially in the bucks no weaknesses on those defensive teams you might not get easy threes jason tatum might have a harder time and and look i'll do respect to the celtics i think they

deserve to be the second favorite to come out of the east but i see a match up with milwaukee and and right now i think a lot of us would take the bucks this time around yeah yeah uh let's talk wim and yama i don't know if we say his name right we pronounce his name differently every i did notice on wednesday's show that you guys might have said it incorrectly but don't make me say it yeah so so is he actually as different as we're being told that he's one of the tallest prospects in history and he can shoot threes have you ever like lying that he's shorter i know i'm serious he's like kevin durant like doesn't want to be a seven footer it depends on where you measure and and me and pfc are big eye height guys yeah and i think we're gonna bring that into the combine

in chicago maybe you guys will be there for the combine but yeah the eye height thing i think his eyes are seven two off the ground that's incredible you know i don't know what they are but he's he's one of the tallest prospects around the thing that need people need to talk about with him is the defense he is he's defensive efficiency in a can i think he can guard almost anybody in the league and his his lank nobody imagine trying to shoot against a guy like that i'd fuck back down he's like a buck fifty i would i would body him he gets bullied i've seen him he got he got bullied by some like i don't know six four three hundred pound latvian dude just put his ass into him give me one give me one box out he would be hurt this is an NBA deep cut pfd but kenny lofton last year

for in summer league it's just the big hulking oh yeah well he's an attack yeah i love took it to chat yeah and it was exactly what you guys are describing just like welcome to this yeah huh is he on a roster kenny yeah he's on the mephisk risley's okay yeah i love his game he has he he would have been the best player in like 1993 for a long time i legitimately thought he was related to the i did say baseball kenny lofton the baseball player played hoops in arizona too was really good but he has the best but then you see his physique you know like i don't think they're related yeah because kenny lofton was like the sick out he was the like the like anything that he shot like like 10 feet out it would just roll out great touch around the rim yeah great player but yeah i

think uh wembanyama is is the most hype prospect arguably since lebron james and a lot of has to do with the yeah he's ralph samson with a three point shot if that's too old school of a reference i can't help because it's been that long since we've had somebody that tall uh that we've been this excited about in the NBA maybe i'll make so my theory and you can i don't know if you're able to answer this but i think the spurs have gotten to the perfect position this is like pops masterpiece he thought to himself i want to leave a legacy here yeah we're in a position where we could win the lottery and get wembanyama from france you nailed it you got it right that time and then i bow out i leave maybe i take a front office job this is my last season i've put us in the

exact right position and now i'm out the futures in your hands right now from your lips to god's ears as a spur for life i love that idea that they would get him he has connections to tony parker and boris dl the spurs have been very uh good with international players for a long time it does sort of fit poetically but one thing people don't realize even if you're in that very low category they don't have they have a 14 percent chance and the lottery's rigged yeah is it right it is so if the lottery was rigged where does where does david stern want wembanyama to go uh san atonia right i mean like you said it's the best story let's so let's speak it into existence i've i've let myself believe this that they're gonna be like hey the bulls are never getting out of

this stuck in mediocreville like roster let's rig it i would look you know i know you guys are looking forward to some time in chicago but man i miss going to big time basketball in chicago with that fanbase they want it would be great story and you you actually are part of adam silvers like little in inner circle so you probably will rig it yourself you know how you guys do the ping pong balls yeah i know how to do that yeah have you ever gotten it uh i've never tried are you guys gonna let me try you want to try yeah let's try all right let's try here we go all right so for people who are watching on the youtube i have one to a hundred written on the board and i will circle it of the number that i'm picking and kirk is not looking at the board

and he's gonna guess hank is looking at the board and he's furious i'm gonna use i'm gonna use my cosmic strategy i can't see it am i supposed i'm not supposed to see it when do i guess he's thinking about writing i'm picking you out he has not circled yet he's going up down left right okay he's got it big cat i'm going to use a grateful dead reference here because i was i know you're a deadhead i'm a deadhead we've we've bonded we're gonna go to all these shows together i was listening to a grateful dead channel on serious network uh one of my favorite shows is the egypt show they play the pyramids uh nine sixteen 78 and i'm gonna go one of those numbers let's just go 78 i feel 78 are you serious god jeff are you serious he did it you literally got it

he did it hey do you see how easy that is what do you mean it's rigged what i didn't tell him anything i just told we would never rig this what i didn't tell him anything i think it's so easy we literally just said we i even think he was gonna want to guess what do you say what do you say max yeah what about it reflection off the oh that is the trash is he's angled he just celebrates someone else getting it that was remarkable look at what he thinks i can see i all i can see is the reflection in a rainbow reflection yeah max there's no chance don't take this away from kirk he nailed it can't see it can't see it i almost i almost picked 16 yeah so there you go it was it was yeah okay i mean it's that easy all right last question sorry dude that was incredible he

he just got it and you have never gotten it okay he's just silently staring me last question we do have to let's do a little march madness oh man excited you've been watching yeah who's winning at all well my beloved longhorns gave the miami hurricanes a run and and credit to jim larnega who we all adore it's hard to root against that guy i found a way because the longhorns were playing him last weekend but these dudes were making shots man for me it's it's either miami or or uconn who seems to be one of the more talented you don't respect you don't respect the little guys i mean honestly my i've been waiting my whole life for this final four just chaos five seeds nine seeds like whatever and and if florida atlantic wins like that's like my childhood dream

coming true like that story and you make that bracket you're like no way this is gonna happen that would be the coolest story that could happen right it's like yeah florida atlantic coming out 37 and 3 they would be if they wanted all yeah um you know but i think the more talented teams which don't always come out on top are are uconn and miami i mean i know you guys are going down what are you looking forward to i i mean i have a future on uconn i just am worried miami they might just make every shot that's what they've been doing oh send you send you like an incredible team when they're when yeah like the length and athleticism they have on the court yeah no there's a lot of like oh these guys are the you know mid majors but i would not be shocked if any of these you guys

had the great mountain west that's coming into the tournament oh well let us use that in my people people were getting upset about it's like you guys got eliminated from the tournament in 10 hours last year like that's you have to say it but san diego state's been tremendous it's been a great tournament i just want to say like i found myself like really watching games and getting into this year and i think the chaos helps yes the thing i'd say against it is like i kind of miss some of the blue bloods in the final four okay well you're snob i don't know if i'm a snob but last year was a little extreme on that side it was villanova kansas yeah and then of course north carolina and and two i somebody hand me a piece of paper up there have you heard the good we're getting we're

getting close to the year anniversary that i put them in the gray you can say that if uconn wins they might become a blue blood that's a good point i think uconn is is potential i'm not on the blue blood uh committee i don't know yeah that's us is it's a they would have one championship away i do i would give them i've been the last 24 years i would give them a yeah that's crazy that's crazy and the next closest is duke and you and see both have three in the last 24 years blue blood yeah so blue i think this is the blue blood final four yeah they have a chance to to become what is it what's the name of the disease that you get if you're a hemophilia hemophilia yeah they had the opportunity to gain hemophilia royalty that's why they call it blue

blood you know that exactly i didn't know that yeah fun fact i had one last question about march madness and this is my uh i have an old man take that i love to to bring out anytime alabama and nato's and his stupid you know spreadsheets falter in the tournament is that what their biggest problem is yeah they yeah that is their biggest problem uh do you think there's anything to be said for a team that shoots only threes and layups to struggle in big moments from the free throw line they don't practice mid-range yeah i think in the nba what we've seen is kawai lennard and kevin durant uh really excelling in these tight spaces that in the playoffs the mid-range does seem to be where the biggest shots happen whether there's jordan's biggest shots but i i don't know but there

is again there's a virtue to the mid-range and yeah i and the free throws suffer brandom miller did not have a good tournament and there's all sorts of jokes but the bottom line is i expected that player to because the way he played in the sec tournament i expected him as an nba sort of prognosticator to come out and continue that in that team to go a lot further than they did yeah why they struggled i don't know you can't put that in a spreadsheet you find out he's in a different type of cell fraud yeah um all right well kirk you have one last question yeah i was there there's another way that basketball has been ruined i don't necessarily think that this one is your fault but the the gamification of the free throw line yeah people getting these cheap fouls james harden

you know jumping into people drawing but they found an inefficiency uh that wasn't there before is there a way mathematically to fix that make free throws worth 0.75 points yeah i think dean smith famously said the best place to score on the free throw line on the basketball court is the free throw line and i think it took like a little too long for basketball players to really figure that out i believe in the the european soccer countries that taught us how to flop yep my friend monning you know i'll believe again italians just say italians james harden james harden bringing that italian strategy into uh into pro basketball he's perfect it's a really smart play nothing elevates the expected value of a possession more than a whistle uh if you're in the bonus or if you

have a two-shot foul coming your way like it's but are free throws too easy yeah i think they are maybe move it back yeah you know what's weird guys is that the the college basketball has one in one and then when you make millions of dollars to shoot free throws we we don't need you to take one on one like bring the one on one to the mba i think that's one thing we could do to actually increase the risk for some of these these guys you're gonna get zero points on the possession if you don't make that front end yeah it's terrifying for these college kids in the tournament oh yeah that's a great rule what was the end of the game san diego state you missed the front end or no it was a two-shot foul but if it was one in one yeah but it was a shooting

foul whatever we can get out of the call but how terrified yeah that second one was terrifying he made the second one yeah i like that tell adam silver that yeah mr silver mr silver and also to rig it for the bulls um all right well kirk thank you thank you for having us on behalf of the university of texas and the macomb school business thank you guys for coming to visit means a lot and hook them horns let's go kirk goldberg is brought to you by cross-country mortgage football players make football plays but they also make plays off the field like the experts over at cross-country mortgage they might not be doling out concussions or breaking bones but they're dedicated to doing whatever it takes to get you into the home of your dreams i'm closing on a home soon i'm using

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a why we're only gone gone for four days i'm going for 10 days oh i don't know if i mentioned that didn't want to bring it so i brought a carry on bag and then like a little duffle as my carry on go to pack my laptop in open my backpack my laptop was not in there it was midnight so i wasn't going to go to the office to even look for it and i didn't even know where it was in the office i didn't even get to it replaying my my uh steps had no idea where it was so i and obviously i'm going away i have to have some type of laptop or something so i had to bring you are you gonna work when are you gonna use a laptop i don't know maybe for porn for internet this is like this is like when i bring my gym shoes it kind of it well that's the thing it was like do i not do my laptop

it's like i probably i probably do like i don't know because it's like if you don't bring your laptop then you're openly admitting to everybody i plan on doing zero work which is i will happy to openly admit that but i had to bring i have a i have like an all business p like the old laptop i used to stream during covid it's like one of those little del mac but like little del del books whatever you call them del books yeah del books and i just i don't know what does that do with p it just that's what he uses oh okay uh and then today i hit up evan and shanks are coming down to shoot a video we're shooting on sunday and i was like can you look for my laptop at the office he's like yeah it's nowhere to be found oh so i have no idea where it is can you track it

i think it might be in lake charles shit yeah am i stolen it so your firefest is you're not doing any work i don't have a laptop i lost my laptop no they're not doing any work is is like a more like a fire firefest a good fest yeah this is this is firefest oh speaking of firefest like literally fire for hank i found out a very interesting fact about henry oh yeah you told me you're gonna save this yeah yeah when we're doing our uh our golf stream with rudy uh hank was like i think i'm gonna turn my fog machine on and i was like wait what does hank have a fog machine in his apartment is that humidifier that no no that he turns on hank has a fog machine that he turns on when he's just like trying to blow off steam or relax he just calmly goes home

and turns his fog machine on yeah no that was i don't think you understood me that would mean oh no you got god you got cute damn pft we were making us look old what's your fog figure out fog is i think he's smoking he's smoking weed he's smoking marijuana cigarettes yes just a little pan reefer no pft now i wish you had told me this in confidentiality so i could have been like wait let's think about this because i was like yeah i think i'm gonna i i had a bad shot i was like i think i need to go turn on my fog machine oh and then pft's like give a fog machine and i thought he was playing along i was like yeah i just turned no i in my house this is me continuing yeah maybe humidifier i don't know yeah no uh because i was laughing

so hard at the imagery of hank just like having a tough day at work and sit and sit yeah he's like i gotta turn the fog on it always makes me feel better he's like undertakers entrance just sitting there yeah now that now that i think about it i'm a real fucking moron yeah that one hurt that was dumb damn it's not that uh i thought i learned what the mezcal gatorade zero oh yeah so that's another fun fact that i learned about hank that's just an elite drink i was like what cocktail are you making hank and he said he likes to relax with a mezcal and gatorade zero dude mix i used to drink i had a whole summer where i was just drinking gatorade and vodka that's that's normal yeah that's i have my friend who owns a bar in chicago put it on the tap for me yeah gatorade it's a good

red punch gator it's a good drink but gatorade zero and mezcal i don't think that's ever been made by anybody before yeah that was just like uh i don't i don't really drink at my house by myself a lot so it's just i had gatorade zero and then i had some mezcal it is a wild wild crazy combination it's good it's really good yeah try it don't knock until you try it you have great taste i everyone says that yeah barbacuffalo yeah barbacuffalo you're gonna get some soup at the hotel do they have soup i don't know lister quill oh shampoos yeah obviously yeah that was our next question yeah come on well it's really embarrassing you thought he was talking about actual soup there all right pft uh my firefest is that i thought that hank was using a fog machine

in his house when he was actually smoking weed which makes me very uncool uh in addition to that it is opening day so i retold the uh the story of my dad punking me on the opening day april fools day back when i was in elementary school where he picked me up from school gave me my glove drove out of the parking lot and then told me april fools and maybe go back to class and people pointed out treene in the bathroom at school people well people pointed out something i didn't realize there haven't been any opening day orioles games on april fools day throughout the entire 90s oh no so i went back and i looked at it this motherfucker my dad pulled an april fools prank on me on april second oh that's illegal a full 24 so not so not only did

he make me go back to class but it wasn't even april fool he was just like he must have done something devious he pulled a psych on me he just psyched me he must have done some devious shit i don't know i don't know what i did to deserve it it's funny in retrospect but yeah um it does make it worse finding out that not only was it was it a punk but it was also just not even april fools day yes that does suck um all right my firefighters and i have to sit in the last fucking row of the football stadium to watch a basketball game yes that sucks that's tough this is going to suck yeah you should get binoculars you're gonna watch the uh the jumbotron i i promise to the awls i will not watch the jumbotron that's yes i will watch the court back in the back

i'm gonna give you all i'm gonna i'm gonna call fouls from all the way up there someone who's snuck into a lot of basketball games and ended up sitting in the last row that's you'll just end up watching the screen so i could just watch tv yeah maybe i'll watch out my but you'll be in the atmosphere which i'm sure will be electric for the f a u san Diego state game yeah the fans will be in there rocking if you hit your first bet you're gonna want to stay up there maybe for your second that's true if no yeah you're right i haven't decided to i'm gonna bet on for the first game but yeah although you guys are gonna get good seats i'm going alice baby i think i'm gonna go i don't know fuck i don't know i'm saying the ego state yeah fun because you're going there yeah

because you want to party with them i'm they got a beach at f a u2 dusty may on the podcast nothing doesn't do anything for you i'll up okay um all right that's our show uh we kick it to ourselves we did the lottery ball back in the studio the kirk you're gonna admit the kirk goes for everything now it was not fake yeah it wasn't faking i don't know what you want to thanks to well he he got the number i it wasn't fake he could not see the look at the reflection right look at the reflection you can't see it he had he walked you through his reasoning of picking a random number we were talking about grateful dead before we got in here okay you're two inside your own head yeah that sucks for you that he was able to get it's that easy it's just like i don't

know you guys are you know you're really laying it on thick with like the bachelor he though yeah the bachelor came in the office if you didn't see the video of it uh the bachelor came into the office he's an awl shout out zach came in with his bride to be or bride i don't know how that works on the bachelor it's called a fiance uh you can also say bride to be yeah that's a that's a normal thing but i asked him just pick a number because we just had stave on the show we just did the drawing i said we just did it what would your number have been and he fucking nailed it first guess everyone gets it except you well maybe not let's kick it to ourselves see if hank gets it okay we're wrapping up the show numbers time getting ready for the final four we're in houston

come see us kirby's ice house five to seven on friday one to three on saturday local time numbers oh wait hank have you ever gotten this no numbers season 18 hank 46 i don't want to win i'll say seven for the record for body when i'll be in 42 42 for for uh memes evan what you got two two 82 82 what was your number hank 46 i picked 17 i don't want to win hey 59 59 god yeah right you're trying you're trying to win all right that's our show we'll see everyone on monday love you guys tigers can eat up to 40 pounds of meat and then not eat for a week to find you shine away i'll be coming for your love okay

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