Pardon My Take - FBI agent Joe Pistone (Donnie Brasco), Russ Wilson Wants A Trade, Maybe And We Have Some More Investment Ideas
Episode Date: February 26, 2021Russel Wilson wants a trade, kind of, and one of the teams he has listed is the Chicago Bears so Big Cat is all in on his lame sayings and quotes (12:48). We talk a little CBB and NBA and Deshaun Wats...on still wants a trade and Hank has a genius investment idea as well as a drunk idea (12:48 - 34:24). Former FBI Agent Joe Pistone who went undercover in the NYC Mafia for 5 years as Donnie Brasco joins the show to talk about the mob, working undercover, and a life of an Italian mobster (34:34 - 69:27). We wrap up with Fyre Fest of the week.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake
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On today's pardon my take,
we have a very special guest.
It is Donnie Brasco, the real Donnie Brasco.
Joe Pistone, if you don't know the story,
if you haven't seen the movie,
Joe Pistone went undercover in the New York mafia
in a crime family for five years
in the late 70s, early 80s,
ended up like 200 indictments
just based on his investigation.
He lived the life.
He's in witness protection still.
Fascinating interview, something a little different.
So make sure you listen to that.
We also have Russell Wilson maybe demanding a trade,
but also not.
It's very weird.
Russell Wilson Day to Sean Watson,
adamantly demanding a trade.
Firefest of the week.
Hank has a new idea to get us rich,
which I think he's gonna share.
Are you gonna share?
Fuck yeah, you're gonna share.
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These are the quotes I will live by
if Russell Wilson becomes a bear.
There you go.
There you go, your mind is your greatest weapon.
Your mind is your greatest weapon.
What about my ass?
Nope, your mind.
Okay.
Your mind is your greatest.
Russell Wilson has demanded kind of,
the most passive aggressive trade
requests in the history of sports.
Well, it's kind of like he's entering the transfer portal.
It's not really a full demand.
He says, I'm not requesting a trade
unless it's to a team that I would want to be traded to.
Do you know what he's asking?
He's basically in a marriage and he's asking for a hall pass
and then he listed like six different women
that he would like to have sex like,
hey, actually our neighbor is a hall pass.
It's not Jennifer Aniston.
It's Bethany who lives next door.
Yes, your friend from the PTA.
Right.
She'd be on my list.
Yeah, you taught us in a couple like
Scarlett Johansson's on there, Halle Berry, your mom,
and then we'll go with Megan Fox.
Okay, so he has said to the Seahawks,
he doesn't want to be traded,
but if they were to trade him,
hypothetically speaking,
he would want to go to one of four teams.
The Raiders, the Bears,
the Saints, and the Jets.
No, the Dolphins.
The Dolphins, not the Jets.
I've seen the Jets as well.
Not the Jets.
Okay, not the Jets.
Just the fact that Russell Wilson has put the Bears
in this list is like maybe the biggest win
the Bears have had in a while.
It's huge.
Six or seven years, actually our friend Robert Mays
had a tweet that sums up the Bears perfectly.
He listed the best Bears of all time, QBs.
Number one, Sid Luckman, number two, Jay Cutler,
number three, Eric Kramer.
Number four, Russell Wilson saying he'd play for the Bears.
I put him at five.
I put Sexy Rexie ahead of him, the original RG3.
And now this is something that J.J. Watt,
I don't think would ever do.
Something like what Russ is pulling.
He would, J.J. Watt would demand a trade.
He would, or excuse me, he would demand his release
so that he wouldn't become a burden on the team
and he could go out and not be a distraction to the locker room.
Russell Wilson on the other hand.
Totally wouldn't milk his free agency, period.
You can't sell one right now.
Mr. Unlimited without me.
No league year hasn't started, Hank.
What do you want him to tamper?
No.
What did you want J.J. Watt?
Listen, if Russell Wilson somehow, some way,
now let me take a step back real quick.
Let me just say though that if you went to the Bears,
something terrible would happen.
Of course, of course.
But I still would love to have that terrible thing happen
for the day that he signed for me to be that excited.
You know what?
It's a future me problem.
Big Cat in off season where Russell Wilson
as your quarterback would be the best period of time
in Bears history ever.
Right, exactly.
It'd be incredible.
I think that he threw the Bears in here
because he was like, OK, I want to go to the Saints
because Sean Payton, I want to go to the Dolphins
because I want to live in Miami, I want to go to the Raiders
because I want to live in Las Vegas, I want to go to Chicago
because there's a chance that Ryan Pace will pay me $700
million.
So that is where the Bears, you know, and guess what?
I don't think Russell Wilson is worth $700 million,
but I also never got an MVP vote.
I would love to just have a competent quarterback
and that would be a very fun experience.
I think that he threw the Bears in there as like throwing
a bone for the Seahawks because he knows
that the Bears in the discussion, his trade value goes up.
And so that means that other teams
would be able to give a little bit more money.
I think he said Dallas too.
It's basically all cities that Sierra would want to live in.
Yes.
It's like, where is a little bit sunnier?
Where can you be outdoors for eight months of the year?
All I'm going to say is that if Russell Wilson somehow,
someway becomes a bear, I will buy into.
I might actually, I might just become the most religious
person in the world.
I might just become unlimited.
Yeah, just praise Jesus every single day.
Like I will tweet about the corneas, sayings, everything.
I'll be a Mr. Unlimited.
I'll do post game videos in black and white to Kobe,
thinking about Kobe when Russell Wilson plays for the Bears.
Like the Bears beat the Lions in week three.
I mean those for Kobe.
You and Russell do have like similar fashion senses.
Lines shirts, jeans, you're both dads.
Dads, yeah.
Then that's really where it stops.
You both drink water sometimes.
Sometimes.
Yeah, I'm ready.
I'm ready to get hurt.
I'm ready to just, this is, you know what though?
I don't really care.
Just the fact that he mentioned it.
It is really like, it could be a total throw in,
but he put us in the sentence that said
that he would consider being a Chicago bear.
And I'm like, all right, great.
Someone wants us.
That's cool.
I don't think he's going to go anywhere.
No, no.
I think he's going to stay in Seattle,
but it's nice to dream.
His biggest qualm with the organization
appears to be like, oh, I didn't realize that playing
in the NFL, that my coach would have his sons also
on the staff, and they wouldn't be held to the same standard.
It's like, you know that you play in the NFL, right?
Like that's kind of signing.
That's part of what you're signing up for.
It's like, you're going to be busy most Sundays,
and your coach is going to have a couple of his shithead
sons running around fucking everything up.
And so the other story that came out about Russell Wilson
was that he apparently stormed out of a meeting
before the Thursday night football game against the Cardinals,
because he was basically giving a presentation on how
the offense could be fixed, which that was probably
the lamest, well, let me do two things.
If he's not a bear, that was the lamest presentation ever
where Russell Wilson was like, I want to throw the ball 75
times a game.
Let me be Mr. Unlimited.
Now, Bear Russell Wilson, how do the Seahawks
not listen to Russell Wilson, their franchise quarterback,
shame on them, if he came to Chicago, Matt Nagy
will listen to everything he says.
It's great leadership.
That's exactly what you want out of your signal caller.
You want a guy that's not afraid to take a lot,
to coach his coaches up.
But I just, I mean, every time I read a story like this,
why couldn't I fucking known about this
before I bet on that game?
Which one?
Russell Wilson's storming out.
It's like McCarthy Watermelons again.
Yep, all of you.
I'm sick of reading stories in February
where I can actually point to it and be like,
oh yeah, I lost that bet.
That makes sense.
Can we all stop for a second though
and just imagine Russell Wilson in Las Vegas?
Just what a waste of real estate that would be for him.
He would probably try to have like a magic show on the strip.
Yeah, probably.
He'd be front row at like the Celine Dion
like a Joel Austin show.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, I could totally see that.
Yeah, hey, Dave Copperfield.
I was thinking we had this great idea for a magic show
that removes all the satanic imagery though.
So basically card tricks.
Yeah, I could absolutely see Russell Wilson doing that.
So this is, it's wild to think that, you know,
Stafford obviously already got traded.
Dak is still up in the air.
Russell Wilson, passive-aggressive trade request.
D'Shawn?
D'Shawn?
Apparently not getting traded.
Jack Easterby.
You don't want to fuck with Jack Easterby.
That's a man that has read,
he lives out of the deal every single day.
Apparently not getting traded,
but also apparently refusing to play for the Texas.
Yeah.
So the story came out that he met with the new coach
for the Texans, Cully.
Yep.
That one's gonna be,
that we're gonna have to remind ourselves of that.
Cully and then I'm having a hard time remembering Siriani.
Yep, Siriani and Cully.
So they had a meeting on Friday night
and D'Shawn Watson was like, absolutely not,
not playing for the team.
Sorry, just not gonna happen.
So it is a game of chicken.
D'Shawn, just get fat.
I would love to see a player just be like,
I truly hate them so much.
I will, I will retire.
Yeah, I mean, if any franchise is able to do that
to a person, it would be the Houston, Texas.
Just get fat, D'Shawn.
I don't know if that would actually like change things
because you say that you're not gonna play.
They say that they're not gonna trade you,
but it would make my life a lot more fun
if every time I saw a picture of fat D'Shawn,
I got to giggle at it.
Yeah, eat your way out of town.
Then there's JJ Watt.
JJ Watt.
He was also doing his free agency tour.
Oh, and we have, sticking on quarterbacks,
Big Ben is officially, officially back,
which is the best thing ever.
I mean, that, that one is here to my eyes.
One more, one more fucking, you know,
trip around the sun, the last dance,
Big Ben version.
Drew Brees is apparently not like he is retiring
but he hasn't said it yet, which makes no sense.
But he's gonna be in the booth next year, right?
But he hasn't said that he's retiring.
He's retiring.
I'm putting Drew Brees out to pasture.
What people are saying now is,
why has Drew Brees not retired?
I don't have a good answer for that,
but I'm putting out to pasture.
I was gonna make a joke that I'm not gonna make
because I'm not gonna make the joke.
About his ribs?
No.
What was it about?
It was gonna be something along the lines
of he's probably still at the golf course waiting for Tiger.
Okay, thank you for not making that joke.
You can't make that joke.
No, you can't make that joke.
You can't make that joke.
You cannot make that joke, so I didn't make the joke.
Drew Brees?
Right?
I did not make that joke.
We all agree I did not make that joke, right?
No, we didn't.
And thank God you didn't.
But Drew Brees is also one of the quarterbacks
that had his legs broken in those rumors.
Yes, right, right, exactly.
Big Ben, so yes, he's coming back.
He's gonna just basically loan money to the Steelers
because the Steelers, they don't wanna pay him
because he's frankly not worth anything right now.
Big Ben doesn't want to take money from the Steelers
because he knows.
We have to take something.
So like, how is that gonna work?
I think that Big Ben should start up his own TB12 method,
the BB7 method, which is really the way that,
like people always say Tom Brady,
well your wife is a supermodel,
she brings in hundreds of millions of dollars.
It does make it easier for him to get paid less,
but we also speculate that Tom Brady has
that side cash coming in from the TB12 method,
the BB7 method, the Big Ben 7 method,
could be the answer to the Steelers cap hell problems
where he starts selling like,
use medical equipment on eBay
and gas station boner pills in chloroform.
Passwords to Brazzers.
Yes, yeah.
And he's not using them guys.
Free password.
Yeah, so, and then what other news we have?
Well, NBA All Star team was announced,
is anyone excited for the NBA All Star game?
I feel like it's the weirdest event.
I don't even think that the players are excited for it.
I was just happy that Zach Levine got the credit
because I'm all in on Zach Levine.
He's been phenomenal, what?
His dad is electric too.
Yes, yes.
They like had the video where they were surprised
and his dad was like, you ready for,
or Zach Levine was like ready for Atlanta
and the dad was just like, are there casinos?
Yeah, well Zach Levine had a quote a couple of weeks ago
where he's like the only two people I'm afraid of
are God and my dad.
And then if you've seen a picture of his dad,
his dad is a not to be fucked with type of guy.
But yeah, the All Star game, I don't...
NBA just needs to bring back the dunk contest.
It's very simple.
Just bring it back with the best players.
Yes, I agree.
The dunk contest can solve everything.
And then college basketball,
we had a great Roy Williams quote last night
even though he shouldn't have,
so they scheduled Marquette for an extra game,
something Duke would never do
because Duke is scared.
They lost to Marquette, bad loss.
And what are these...
Terrible loss.
He basically said, this sucks.
Y'all, when I schedule these games,
I don't know what we're gonna lose.
If we won the game, you'd say, why did you schedule Marquette?
Yeah.
Dag gum it?
Dag gum it?
I'm gonna schedule Marquette.
And if we win, then I look,
you are sitting up here saying you're starting to schedule it.
If I lose the dag gum game,
then you guys are telling me why I scheduled Marquette for it.
So y'all, I can't win with y'all.
And then it storms out.
That was Jerry Jones, Roy Williams,
and Patrick Mahomes all together.
Yeah, I mean, that's pretty good.
That averages out to Roy Williams, so I'm okay with that.
And all you haters out there that told me I was an idiot
when I said Roy Williams is a better coach than Coach K,
he doesn't get to shine.
This is just another market in my favor on this.
But hold on, what's gonna happen here
and why I just said this sucks is there's now a world
where Duke's gonna make the tournament this year
and UNC isn't.
I don't care.
I don't care.
It's gonna suck.
Cause I actually, what's Duke's remaining schedule?
I mean, the ACC is not very good this year.
They might go in a top four seed.
Do you think?
Hank has a point.
What?
Cause they just announced
that there are going to be replacement teams with COVID.
The first four teams out are going to be on standby.
Oh, that's such blue balls, bullshit.
God forbid Gonzaga, Baylor, Michigan have COVID outbreak.
Duke replaces them.
At the one seed.
What's going to happen?
They're not going to shut the round.
What the fuck?
Duke could also be a 16 seed.
Yeah, that would be awesome to see that.
Yeah, pounded by Gonzaga.
Isn't this again for like the second time exactly
what happened to Harry Potter, the Goblet of Fire,
where they added another team in just to make sure
that the ratings went up?
That's true.
RIP said that.
What?
Yeah.
That's a fantastic reference, PFC.
I had no idea you had that in you.
Thank you.
Well, it happened with Zion with the Pelicans
and now they're doing it with another Duke squad.
Cedric.
Got the fucking wind of that.
I've been saying that for years.
Duke has Lubell, Lubell, Lubell, Lubell, Lubell.
Georgia Tech, UNC.
All tournament, Calvertine.
Yeah, Georgia Tech will actually be the top of the screen.
I mean, just access something that I forgot about
like since I was like 12 years old.
So, it's the Stones.
It's Duke Georgia Tech.
I actually referenced this on my pod last night.
What's the pod?
Barstlebench, Rob.
Duke Georgia Tech, Rob, very well.
Oh, Hank, that's not very right of you.
Oh, yeah, I forgot that was just one.
Duke Georgia Tech Tuesday could very well
be a lose-relief sound game.
Yes, I would be a lose-relief, though,
but that is a lose-relief sound.
We didn't come up with lose-reliefs, do we?
No, we didn't.
I still got it.
Wrestling and everything.
Oh, okay.
All right, I thought you did it, sorry.
Yeah.
So yeah, so Duke, they're gonna make the tournament.
I just know they will.
Of course.
If they make the tournament, you gotta get a cat, Hank.
No.
Why?
You guys have to get a cat.
All right, how about this, Hank?
What if Duke makes the tournament
as one of those replacement COVID teams
and then they end up losing?
If Duke wins the championship, you guys should get a cat.
Okay, yeah.
If Duke wins the championship, I'll get a cat.
Yep, done.
And if Duke, well, you have to have a cat.
It'll be an outdoor cat.
You're gonna make it to the championship and lose.
No, final four.
No, sweet 16.
Sweet 16 and lose.
No, because if they get a one seed,
it'll be a walk-in to the final four.
But that's a risk.
You have to put something in this.
Yeah, if they make it to the championship and lose.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
It's gotta be, come on.
It's the same guy for both of us.
Final four, final four.
I think elite eight.
I think if they get to the elite eight and lose,
you have to get a cat.
If they lose in the sweet 16, no cat.
No cat.
They will.
Yeah, yeah.
But what's on it?
No, final four, I think final four.
If they get to the final four, you have to get a cat.
And they win the title, we have to get a cat.
All right, all right.
Okay, all right.
One cat between us.
Yes, we'll split it in half.
It can be a barn cat.
Billy will split it in fours.
There's actually a new litter of barn cats.
Oh, no.
God damn it.
Billy, are you gonna get that?
What was the riboplasma?
Toxoplasmosis.
What are you?
That was a wild time, right?
Yeah.
Didn't you suggest going up to toxoplasmosis
to attack the COVID cells?
Yeah, no, no, no.
It was more that in a bunch of people
with motorcycle accidents have toxoplasmosis
because they have no fear.
By the way, we should just,
for the people who are listening and not watching,
Billy has the most unwrinkled,
or wrinkled pants of all time.
It looks like his legs are in two scrotums.
I just want you to listen to it in no way.
That's what he's doing.
Yeah, Chipotle wrappers as Ken Jack put out there.
Not all of us have advanced laundry techniques.
I, Billy, I, you have tried.
Like a laundry, like a.
I support you, Billy.
What do you mean by advanced laundry techniques?
Do you mean a dryer?
An iron?
An iron?
What a good man.
If I didn't support you, Billy,
I would say I also don't have an iron,
but I've never let my pants get to that point.
But I do support you and I'm with you on this journey.
I actually think you balled them up
and you put them on your mattress.
You've been sleeping on them for six months.
I have a solid laundry apparatus technique thing I do where.
You put it in a washing machine.
I actually do have a washer and a dryer.
I know what he's going to say.
What?
You, and because you're, you're 21, are you 22 yet?
I'm 22.
All right, so you're 22.
You're going to always be 21, but you do,
and listen, this is actually the relatable part, Billy.
So I'm going to have your back here.
Thank you.
You do your laundry.
You do the, you wash it and you put it in the dryer.
And then instead of doing the extra step
of folding everything and putting it away,
you just take your clothes from the dryer all week.
Yeah.
It's great.
That's actually an efficient system.
Yeah.
And then you put it in the washing machine, right?
When you take it off for the shower.
Right.
Yep.
So you, you basically, you don't need a closet.
Exactly.
Can I give you a life hack?
So here's a great way to just get rid of wrinkles.
You just take like one sock or one shirt and you wet it down.
And then you put it in the dryer
with the other thing you want to dry.
And then the steam, while it's in the dryer,
gets rid of the wrinkles.
How long?
I don't know, like 10 minutes.
So do it while I shower?
Yeah, perfect.
That's actually, that's actually huge.
Or you hang the, the pants up in the shower.
I'm a guy that knows how to take care of some big wrinkly pants.
You just hang it up in there with you.
The steam lets it all fall down.
Yep.
That's actually huge.
Maybe put a towel under the door
so you don't let any of the steam out.
Hot box it.
Yep.
Yeah.
Little steam room in your shower.
Ooh.
I had a little bit of pre-fomo looking forward to this weekend.
Oh.
Can you guys help me out, maybe?
Yeah.
Are we not going to have any gooch this weekend?
Because last weekend, we had multiple gooches.
Oh, the golfer.
I think the golfer's probably competing.
Tailor gooch.
And then there was dusty gooch.
I can't go from two goochs weekend to zero gooch weekend.
Yeah, I hope the tailor gooch is competing.
I would assume he is.
Yeah.
Right?
He's got to be.
Jake, check that force.
Hank.
Stand by.
Brooks did just hit a 35-footer.
He's won off the lead.
Of course he is.
Oh, fuck that.
Wait, that's not Puerto Rico, is it?
Nope.
No, other one.
Concession in Bradenton, Florida.
Yeah.
All right.
Before Hank tells us his genius idea.
I don't see a gooch on the leaderboard.
OK.
Well, he's got to be there.
Or he could be at Puerto Rico.
He could be at Puerto Rico.
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PFT, what I thought you were going to say
about this weekend was, guys, this is how the calendar works.
We finally made it.
We're fucking springing ahead.
So changing your clocks on Saturday night.
Finally, we're going to get that extra hour of sunlight.
There's nothing better than getting to that point
where we finally reach it.
We're going to change our clocks on Saturday night.
And then, boom, it's going to be 6.30 before the sun sets.
Well, for me, it's actually been the entire four months
because I never changed.
And so I've always got that to look forward to.
If you've got a car that you drive every day,
if you've made it, you drove through your zone.
You made it through your zone.
That's the most accomplished I ever felt
when I was driving my car.
When I was like, you know what?
I didn't change my clock.
Finally, time caught up to me.
You made it.
Don't be late for work on Monday.
It sprung forward.
There's something just beautiful about that.
The first Monday after we spring forward,
which is this Saturday, is to change your clocks.
2 o'clock in the morning, is that right?
Yeah, 2 AM Sunday morning, it becomes 3 AM.
So there's something about that extra hour
where you get out of work and it's like,
oh my god, it's still light up.
This is great.
It feels great.
It's like if this had lasted one more week,
I was gonna off myself.
So thank god it's back this week.
Yes, so just a little shout out to everyone
who are looking out for the AWL.
It's Billy.
We don't want you to be late.
Hank, your genius idea that's gonna make us rich.
In a week where we have reached great financial independence
by buying highlights online,
we're just rich now, right?
Because of highlights online.
Assets, they're assets.
Digital assets.
This one, crypto punks.
This one will require a little more work.
I know your old big cat PFT, you're getting old,
I'm getting old, so it's might, you know,
someone young that really has the time.
It also occurred to me that-
But there is a new sport that's blowing up,
and I think we can get in on the ground floor
and make a lot of money.
This dude, Paul Macbeth, today,
signed a 10 year, 10 million dollar contract extension
to play disc golf.
10 year, 10 million?
So this guy, he's like, you know,
He's like Ragnar.
Michael Jordan of disc golf.
His first contract was like a year, like 250 grand.
He sold so many fucking discs or whatever.
Frisbees, his signature line sold so many.
There's such a huge market there.
It's time to do a 10 year, 10 million dollar contract.
And it's something I think if we just get our froth on,
we can get in and-
Banging chains.
Banging chains and, you know, make millions.
10 years, 10 million doesn't seem like
that much money to me, actually.
For fucking disc golf?
Yeah, it seems like kind of a broke boy sport.
It's, I actually really,
I aspire to be two things in my life.
One is a car guy and the other is a frolfer.
Right.
If I could envision my perfect self,
it'd be know how to use,
know how to like fix a car and have some antique cars
and then take my antique car and bang some chains.
How many times big hat in your life have you been like,
I wish I could pursue my frolf, you know, dreams,
but I have to make money for my family.
And literally every day.
Now, you don't have to make a choice.
Yeah.
Do it.
Do both.
Yes.
Okay.
In.
So who sponsors them?
Discraft.
Discraft.
So it's a Frisbee company.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
And they're actually, I mean, they're so sick.
You wear your little satchel and you got your,
your different frolf discs, you know, like they're clubs.
Yeah.
You don't just use the same disc.
An AWO email me this.
His name was Cayman,
which I thought was appropriate for a guy
that's really on the, you know-
He definitely wears T-Vas.
The frolf scene.
Maybe even has a rat tail.
But, but still, I read the article I was,
I was like taking it back.
I was like, wow, there's some real money to be,
I need, you know, we're in, we're,
we're trying to get rich quick.
Right?
Like this is the week where it's just like,
what should we do?
Should we buy like-
It's an investment week.
Should we buy cards?
Or should we buy some fucking chains and start training?
If it's what it is, because it's an outdoor sport,
you're always socially distanced.
I just-
You don't have any friends.
It's perfect.
I have to correct you, Hank,
because if we're going to get in this-
We have to buy chains to set them up and then we bang them.
We buy them and then we bang them.
We bang them.
That's why it sounds cool when you say,
you want to go bang some chains, bro.
And then you're talking about froth.
Yeah.
You have to buy them to set them up and then you bang them.
Okay.
Why do we have to build our own bang chains?
No, we don't.
We're training-
You just go to the course and you just bang some chains.
Yeah, I'm not going to bang my own chains.
Yeah.
You know, crap where you eat.
Come on.
Either way, do you want me to do my drunk idea too?
Should we say that?
That wasn't your drunk idea.
No, that's an investment.
That's like-
That's like-
That's like-
She leaves with the strongest idea, huh?
That's like if we were, you know,
if the microphones weren't here,
I would have sat you guys down in a boardroom
and been like, let's do this presentation and the whole thing.
This is more of just like, you know,
guys at the bar like-
All right, later.
We sponsor a professional frisbee golf.
We make a t-shirt that says bang chains.
Yeah.
That actually would be a good idea.
That'd be great.
We actually, Jake or, not really.
Jake, can you get someone on that?
Bang chains.
Bang chains for ourselves.
Do you bang chains, bro?
Do you even bang chains?
Do you even bang chains, bro?
And it's just a fucking frulf going into-
That's head up tricks?
Yeah.
Maybe it's a dude throwing a frulf with that rat tail
I just talked about.
Cacky cargo shorts.
That are wrinkled.
Baggy green shirt.
Yeah, baggy green shirt.
Teev is a little overweight, but not too overweight.
Maybe a pukashell.
Maybe a pukashell.
And he's throwing a fucking perfect nine iron
right at the chains.
And it says, do you even bang chains, bro?
Who do you think's winning a chain bang
between this group?
I could frulf.
Probably not me.
I could frulf.
I've thought a lot about frulfing,
so I'd say just my mind is sharper than everyone's here
when it comes to frulf.
Yeah, the whole like practicing frisbee on the quad thing
was never something I got into.
So I feel like my discs are,
they're always flying at like a 45 degree angle.
Yeah, you're more into-
You know what I do?
I throw things behind.
I throw like Barry Zito style.
You're more of a lateral guy.
Yeah.
You gotta get hoso.
That's what they call it.
Horizontal.
Hoso, get hoso.
I actually made that up.
I don't know if I say that, but it sounds cool.
All right, now the drunk idea.
Okay, well, wait, hold on.
Wait, what about Hank?
Flush that out of my brain.
Hanging brain and banging chains.
Yeah, well, have a whole line.
His dicks out while he's throwing frisbee.
Yeah, well, have a whole line of these.
All right.
I want that shirt, Jake.
It's chopped.
Do you have trigs?
No, I do not.
Fuck, I gotta do everything around here, all right?
Fine, I'm gonna text them.
You might listen to the show, too.
It's chopped.
Yeah, but I want it now.
Okay.
I texted him last night at 11, 30 nights
and he said, give me a loo door dunking a skull.
It's chopped.
I got it.
But for building a bong.
But for booze.
Okay.
Wait, what?
You know, the show chopped.
Yeah.
It's like a chest, you get a basket.
Sometimes it's beer.
You get a basket of ingredients,
so sometimes it could be food.
Uh-huh.
But that's chopped.
But for booze, you're making drinks.
Okay.
So you're making one drink.
Give me an example of what's in my box.
All right, you got fucking vanilla ice cream.
Okay.
All right.
Grass.
Yup.
Like something disgusting, like some like spice
or like something that's like, you know,
really flavorful.
That's like.
It's not a chili.
And then, I don't know, shaved ice.
Okay.
Asparagus.
Okay.
And then you gotta make a drink.
I have to make a liquor out of that.
You have to make a cocktail.
Something that you can serve.
But there's no booze.
Would you have the booze?
Oh yeah, yeah.
And uh.
How drunk were you, Hank?
You just forgot the booze.
You just want us to make a salad.
No, no, no, no.
I did forget the booze.
No, I think what happened was Hank was out of booze
and he was just looking at ingredients in the house.
I was out of chaser.
He was like, how can I get drunk
out of these, off these things?
Oh, it's like, you ferment the asparagus?
No, no, no, that's my bad.
All right.
That's the concept.
You blend it all together and then you toss some whiskey
in it and you call it a milkshake.
Boom.
But someone else can make a better one.
It's, you know, there's plenty of bartenders in the world.
All right, well, let's try it.
Let's have, I mean, we've already had
a episode of Top Chef Billy versus PFT.
Let's do it again.
That would actually be great.
Let's do it on our Twitch stream.
I like, all right.
I like to.
Let's do it on our YouTube.
Let the chili talk.
Yeah, let's do it on our YouTube.
Let's do it, set it up for, let's do it Sunday night.
When we come in to do the show,
we'll do a 10 minute chop for booze.
All right.
Okay, so you're gonna get the.
I'll get the ingredients, I'll get the box.
All right.
The boxes.
Okay.
And it should be, the main ingredient
of the course light or course lights also.
That's, that's yes.
Okay.
Perfect.
And then we'll taste test.
Billy will let the meat talk.
Should get steak should be part of this.
Just so we can.
I'll take care of it.
All right.
So maybe not Sunday night.
We'll do it soon.
Soon.
We'll do it on our YouTube channel.
All right.
Good ideas.
Thank you.
Way to go.
Appreciate it.
I mean, we're, what were you saying, Billy?
I actually had a drug idea too.
All right.
Here we go.
Let's go.
It is investment week.
So.
It's not sponsored.
Sure.
Let's just pretend that they are.
Billy's idea is that there's going to be a Peloton dating app.
How did you?
Oh yeah.
I think you tweeted it out.
Yeah.
Well, all these Peloton people are so obsessed with Peloton.
Like it's like a, just everyone's just simping
for their instructors.
So like, why don't you just make a dating app
for all these dudes to get a home?
Hey, I'll do you one better Billy.
I think we've actually passed the people obsessed
with Pelotons.
Now it's the people obsessed with people
who are obsessed with their Peloton.
So let's get a dating app for them
so they can stop complaining about people obsessed
with Peloton.
It's Billy being obsessed with everybody else that's got one.
Yeah.
Because if you knew Olivia Mato,
you would not be talking shit about it, okay?
Right, like six months ago,
people were talking too much about their Pelotons.
Now we just have people talking too much about people
who are talking too much about their Pelotons.
So if we get them to date,
then everyone will shut the fuck up.
Do you guys remember like a year and a half ago
when that commercial came out
and like a slightly, arguably sexist commercial
about Peloton was the biggest problem
that we had in the entire world?
That was nice.
That was pretty sweet.
That was pretty nice.
Like some husband buying his wife a $3,000 bike.
Damn.
That was a good time.
Yep, and now here we are.
I missed that.
And now, well, I mean, we're solving all the world.
Do you see Mr. Potato Head is no longer?
It's just Potato Head.
Just Potato Head.
Just Potato Head.
What are we gonna do?
It's by Firefest.
Save it for two.
All right, forget you didn't hear that.
Forget you didn't hear that.
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Joe Pistone, the real Donnie Brasco.
A fascinating interview was in,
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Okay, here he is.
Joe Pistone, a.k.a. the real Donnie Brasco.
Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest.
It is Joe Pistone.
You know him as Donnie Brasco, former FBI agent.
I guess you're an FBI agent for life.
If you haven't seen Donnie Brasco,
go watch it first of all.
Go read the book, Joe's book.
He was undercover in the mob in the New York City Mafia
for many years and went, you know, 200 indictments.
One of the craziest stories out there.
If you don't know it, I think everyone does know it,
but thank you for joining us, Joe.
We appreciate it.
Got a million questions.
I guess the first one is where are you right now?
I'm on the east coast of the U.S.
Oh, okay.
I like this.
All right, you can't really tell us.
We also have a sunglass off.
What's the weather like where you're at?
Cold.
Cold, oh.
I'm wearing shorts right now.
There has to be a cold snap throughout the U.S.
So yeah.
It is winter.
Yeah, that's true.
So you also have a podcast that is called Deep Cover.
What do you guys talk about in the podcast?
Is it basically stories from back in the day?
Yeah, it's Deep Cover to real Donnie Brasco
and it's on Jamstreet Media is our production,
it's a production company.
It's basically, we've got 19 episodes in a can
and it's basically about organized crime,
the mafia, my days undercover stories
that weren't told in the movie or in my books
regarding my undercover endeavors.
And we're hopefully gonna start up
second season pretty soon.
But I really appreciate you guys having me on.
When I told my grandkids, they were like, no.
Come on.
I love it.
Oh, guys gonna have you on.
They were like, you guys, I'll tell you what,
you guys are, you guys are, I don't know, you're rock stars.
You were made guys.
Yeah, we actually look at you the same way
because I don't know about Big Cat,
but for me personally,
Donnie Brasco is one of my favorite movies growing up.
Loved it.
Thank you very much.
It's one that I watch every five years or so.
And the story behind it is just endlessly fascinating to me.
I guess my first question for you would be like,
when you were growing up,
did you actually want to be in the mafia
or did you want to be on the justice side of the law?
Well, growing up, I always wanted to be a cop.
I always wanted to get into law enforcement.
And I grew up in Paterson, New Jersey
and I don't know if you guys are aware
of any towns or in Jersey,
but Paterson was a typical blue-clawed town
and I grew up in a Italian neighborhood.
So there were wise guys in the neighborhood.
I knew wise guys growing up,
went to school with some of the kids of the wise guys,
but their life never attracted me, you know?
And I think I take that back to my upbringing.
My father worked in bars, had bars,
was a hard-working guy.
And although we knew all the gangsters in the neighborhood,
it was always a, that's not the way you want to go.
Because you see the social clubs,
you see the guys, nobody works,
they're hanging out all day, they got the flash, the cash.
That sounds to me like that actually sounds pretty cool.
Like you see a bunch of wise guys hanging out,
flash, cash, at a social club,
that's the triple crown thing.
Yeah, it's cool if you lean that way, you know?
But like I said, I had a good upbringing and,
look, I'm not gonna lie to you, growing up,
I gambled, shot crabs in the streets,
went to the racetracks,
but it just wasn't something that attracted me.
I always wanted to be a cop, and that's the way I went.
So 1976, you go undercover,
and it's supposed to be only a six-month operation,
but you take, it takes six months, right?
Before you even get introduced to guys in the mafia
that you can start doing some undercover investigation for.
What was that process like?
What was that six months trying to get known
and have people be like,
oh, this guy's just a guy around the streets.
We see him, we know him,
he's not just a random guy who just showed up.
Yeah, well, I had just come off
a year and a half undercover operation,
where I had infiltrated a gang of thieves
that were still in high-priced automobiles.
In other words, you came to us and said,
hey, I want a Mercedes Ben.
Well, we take your order,
and then that night we go out to the Mercedes
dealership and hook the car.
So I did that for a year and a half.
I get back to New York,
and my supervisor was an old-time New Yorker
who had done undercover on his day, Guy Baratta,
and he had this idea of an undercover operation.
And the initial, all undercover operations
are funded for six months.
And then every six months, you have to renew them.
So that's why it was a six-month deal.
And the idea was to see if I can infiltrate fences.
You guys know what fences are, right?
Guys that broke or stole and come out at these goods, swag.
And the idea was to,
and you have to have a profession
because nobody's gonna deal with you
if you don't have a profession.
And so my profession was I was a jewel thief.
And the reason being is that you could do jobs without,
you don't need a gang to go do jobs.
I can bring diamonds, precious gems around.
So I went to school, learned all about diamonds,
precious gems, learned about locks, alarms, safes, whatever.
And then the idea was we had certain restaurants
and bars targeted that we knew that these guys hung out in.
And the idea was to go in and hang out
and hopefully get into conversation.
Well, if you know anything about the mob,
you don't just walk in and say,
hey, I'm Donnie Brasco.
I'm a jewel thief.
I wanna hook up with you guys.
It doesn't work that way.
So it took me about six months
going into these different places, just hanging out,
getting something to eat, having a Heinegan.
And then finally I got into conversation
with a bartender who was hooked into the mob.
And that's how I, that's how I,
my actual first initiation was with these guys
was there was bartender that was,
was a guy that was hooked up with the Lucchese
mafia family out of New York.
So in the movie, you get introduced,
I guess it's to lefty, you help him out
by spotting a fugazi, a fake dime.
How do you tell if a diamond is fugazi?
Well, back then in the day, when I was pretty good at it,
I had the, you know, I had the glass and you look
and you see, if you see scratches,
you look at the, you look at the color, you know,
and can you really, if it's really a bad fake,
then you can tell, but this one, you know,
this one didn't look really great.
And I just took a shot that, hey, it's a fugazi, you know,
and it was.
So not to glamorize guys in the mafia,
because obviously they are criminals,
but did you have fun?
Was it fun when you were hanging out with the guys?
I imagine it was fun at times where you're like,
this is actually like, we're hanging out,
we're busting balls, we're having a good time,
watching sports, playing pool, whatever it may be.
Were there times when you almost had to remind yourself
like, hey, you're a cop,
like you're not supposed to be having fun?
Yeah, well, you know, you have to remember,
you're dealing with human beings.
So even though they're stone cold killers,
you know, somebody's got a good side to them, you know,
they got kids, you know, they got wives,
they got gumadas, they got kids that are okay.
Some of them got kids that are painting the ass,
like everybody else's kids.
So some of them, you know, some of them are jokesters,
I mean, by jokesters, you know, they're natural comedians,
some of them are just stone cold.
So yeah, you know, during the day,
when you're not doing anything,
you know, you're hanging around the social club,
you know, playing gin, BSing, guys are cracking jokes,
guys are talking politics, guys are talking whatever,
and not that they're experts in anything,
but, you know, they're normal people that way.
So yeah, you know, you do, sometimes you do,
you know, you could bits around with the guys,
you have to because you have to fit in with them.
Right, yeah.
Did you ever forget that your name wasn't Donny?
Like if somebody called out for someone else,
like, hey, Joey, did you ever turn your head?
No, actually, I never did, to be honest with you.
And that's my middle name, and that's why I took it,
you know, but I was used to it.
And the funny thing that the operation,
I had just come off, I used the same name.
So I was, you know, for a year and a half,
I was used to being Donny Brasco.
Yeah, what was the closest you ever got to getting caught
to having your cover blown?
Obviously we see it in the movie,
but was that true to form that, you know,
someone that you had worked with in the FBI
had seen you and didn't know that you were undercover?
Well, there were a couple of ones.
You're talking about in the movie with the lawyer
in the airport?
Yeah, that happened.
He kept calling, calling.
We were walking toward each other,
and I was with Sonny Black,
who was my capo in the Bonanno family.
And when he got out close, I just clocked him,
because I didn't want him to keep, you know,
calling me and everything, and, you know, Sonny says,
Donny, what'd you do?
I said, Sonny, Sonny, do you see what the guy did?
And I don't, can you say anything on here?
Yeah, you say anything, yeah.
I said, he grabbed my prick.
No, I got to clock him, and we kept going.
You saw the boat?
Yeah.
You saw the movie?
Well, that was an FBI boat,
and that boat was used in abscam.
I don't know if you guys ever heard
of the big abscan investigation,
the undercover operation the FBI had against politicians.
And of course, that was never to be surfaced.
And the news media found out about the operation,
and they wouldn't squelch the,
they wouldn't squelch it from printing it.
So when I came out in the paper, we were on that boat.
I took the wise guys on that boat for a fishing trip,
and I was with Lefty one time, we were on an airplane,
and the picture of that boat was called the left hand.
It was on the front cover, I think a news week or time,
and he looks at it, and he looks at me,
and he said, Donny, you know this boat?
And I said, No.
I said, I don't know that boat,
and it's, you know, big picture of it,
big picture of the left hand.
And he said, we were on that boat.
I said, nah, we were never on that boat left.
He said, yes, we were.
I said, how do you know?
He said, what's my name?
I said, Lefty.
He said, what's the name of this boat?
The left hand.
I said, you think I can forget that?
So a few months before he and I had been out in California,
and we were having dinner,
and there were two ladies there,
and he sent them over dinner.
He said to the waiter, you know,
send them over dinner, and drinks, whatever they want.
And then when they were leaving,
we got into a conversation,
and I told him,
I said, Left, remember those two ladies?
Yeah.
I said, you know, one of them gave me a card,
and she said, if you guys are ever in Miami,
and you want to go out on the boat,
this is my brother's boat.
I said, what the hell do I know?
That's how we got in touch with him.
So I skated on that one,
but he always brought it up to me,
but I had been with him a few years now,
so he kind of bought the story.
But that was probably the closest.
Yeah, so when you get revealed,
or when the operation is over and they arrest everyone,
did you, I would imagine deep down,
you were like, you kind of wanted to reach out
to some of these guys and be like,
because there's an emotional bond that you make
over these years.
How hard was that to deal with?
Because they're criminals,
but you also know them on a personal level,
and you've been living with them,
being friends with them for multiple years at this point.
I had no problem with these guys getting arrested,
going to jail.
I didn't want to reach out to any of them after.
That's just the way I operated,
and all my undercover endeavors is that,
look, you chose to be a gangster.
I chose to be in law enforcement.
I'm coming after you,
and once it's over, then I leave.
I never, the only way I would talk to anybody after,
if they wanted to talk to me,
I didn't want to put the cuffs on anybody.
I had no problem with going to jail.
Now, obviously, I didn't want to see guys get killed.
Like I said, they killed Tony Mira.
They killed Sonny Black, Napolitano,
because he was my captain,
and they killed another guy.
Rogerio was due to get killed,
but the bureau heard about it.
They picked it up on a wire,
and they grabbed him while he was on his way to get killed.
But as far as feeling sorry for these guys, no.
That's just the way I feel.
Yeah, that's also probably the Hollywood aspect.
In the actual movie, Donnie Brasco,
they definitely make Al Pacino a sympathetic character
and kind of a sad character
that you feel bad for at the end.
I was told the reason why is because
they had to make me look like a good guy,
because I was a bad guy
during the undercover operation,
for being with these guys.
So they had to make it like I had sympathy for these guys.
I don't know, that's the way Hollywood operates.
Yeah, is there anything that you weren't allowed to do?
Like if they had asked you to participate
in like the most grisly crime that you can imagine
and you were in a car with these guys,
like is there something that you could not have gotten out of?
Had you gone along for the ride?
Well, let me say this,
the rule in undercover is you can't get involved
in crimes of violence, okay?
That's the rule.
However, there's an undercover rule
and that rule is you are your own security.
Nobody's gonna save your life in an undercover deal
except you, all right?
Example, I was given a contract to kill somebody, all right?
You saw the movie, the three guys that got whacked
in the basement, well, it was supposed to be four guys,
one didn't show, I got the contract to kill him.
So that means I'm responsible for killing him.
Now, in reality, in the mafia, you're given a contract,
you don't say the guy's my brother, the guy's my cousin,
I know the guy since we were kids,
you get the contract, you accept it,
otherwise you'll get killed, you know?
So I had to accept it, I had to go out looking for the guy,
but the deal was if I found them by myself,
I'd call the bureau, they would grab them
and we'd stage a hit and it would be the other way around too.
I never found them, they never found them,
we get a call one day, we're at the club
and we get a call, Sonny Black gets a call
and he says, Donny, Bruno, is that such a such an address?
I don't know, I do, so the guy's, you know,
we jump in the car and we're gonna go.
Now, if I get there and we get there,
what am I gonna say?
Hey guys, you know, I'm really an FBI agent.
Yeah, like time out, game over, all right, jigs up.
Or maybe it's me.
Yeah, let's go get some meatballs instead
of killing this guy today.
Yeah, right, but I don't, you know,
so in any operation, if it's me or a gangster,
it's gonna be the gangster.
And like I say, I'll take my shot
with the government charging me.
That's crazy, so you had that mental thought,
like, all right, I'm gonna have to go kill this guy.
Well, yeah, if that's the way it came down.
Yeah, that's nuts.
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And now back to Joey Pistone.
In terms of like the actual undercover work
and getting prepared for it,
I know that, you know,
there was that scene in the movie where you had,
you couldn't take your shoes off in the restaurant
because you were gonna get found out.
What's the best place to wear a wire?
None at all.
Be honest with you.
None at all.
What I did was
I went to Radio Shack and bought a mini tape recorder
and I would keep it in my sport coat pocket.
And did you?
Or my cowboy boots.
That time I had it in my cowboy boot.
From just like a logistical standpoint,
I'm always curious about how the mafia operates,
how the different families operate.
Do you have like set times
that most people are expected to be working during the day?
Because there's no office, right?
Is there like, do some people come in nine to five?
When are people technically at work or is it just 24-7?
Well, it's 24-7 actually.
It's a 24-7 thing.
You meet at your social club basically
or where your crew hangs out.
Everybody's in a crew
and a crew is headed by a capo or a captain, all right?
Who's appointed by the boss.
And you have to maintain contact
with your capo every day.
Most guys don't work.
If they do, if they work,
they might own a bar or a business,
but they're not out there doing physical labor.
They might check in on their business.
But your main goal is the mafia.
That's who you worship.
What's the vacation like in the mafia?
Is there a policy that they have
or can they just like,
if they wanna go away for a couple of weeks?
Well, you gotta tell your capo what you're doing.
In other words, if I wanted to go to Disneyland, right?
I gotta go, it's sunny out.
I wanna take my wife and kids away for, you know,
all right, just check in every day.
You gotta check in every day.
Interesting.
I'm also curious about the tie-ins
with Major League Baseball, the NBA, things like that,
because I know that some crews were involved
in point-shaving issues back then.
Was there any athletic involvement,
any sports that you saw having contact
with the crew you were running with?
Not, the only contact that I know that my guys had
was with horse racing, horse racing.
Yeah.
What's the state of the mafia today?
Like, what is it?
Does it still exist?
Does it, I assume it still exists,
but like where, what is it like today?
Do you have any understanding of it?
Yeah, the state of the mafia,
because I keep up with it through law enforcement.
Basically, they're down reduced to, you know,
just another organized crime entity.
I mean, they're involved,
they're still involved in drugs, they're involved in gambling,
you know, everything that can make them money.
What was taken away from them
and what they don't control anymore
is, you know, back in the day,
what they don't control politicians anymore.
They're out of the gambling business in Vegas
and in the Atlantic city.
What I mean by that is they're not taking the takes
from the county rooms anymore.
They're out of the big unions, running the big unions.
They're out of controlling judges, law enforcement,
you know, and the major unions,
but they're still involved in everything,
all the other crimes again.
But when we, when I say we,
when law enforcement took away their ability
to control the big unions,
control politicians and judges,
and, you know, not that they may not be paying
somebody here or there,
but not on a major scale like they used to.
I mean, back in the day when I was in it,
there wasn't anything in the U.S.
that they didn't have their hand in making money.
Did you, well, what were the parts of Donnie Brasco
that you think didn't get it right?
Where they kind of missed the mark a little bit
in terms of what your experience was like?
You know, overall, I think it was a good movie
and not because it's Donnie Brasco,
but, you know, it's still got legs.
I mean, there isn't a night or day that goes by
that that movie's not playing somewhere.
But I think what they really missed was the real danger.
I don't know how you guys feel, but, you know,
when I watch it, you know, I kind of get the feeling,
man, you know, there's a lot more danger
than this movie's showing.
Maybe that's me because, you know, because I was there.
I don't know.
This is a dumb question.
I know it is, but whenever I watch a mafia movie
or the Sopranos or whatever it may be,
is there ever an element where a guy's like,
hey, I've made enough money, I can walk away?
I know that they can, but where did you ever get
that feeling from guys in the crew?
Like, hey, I kind of want to just stop doing this.
You know, I understand the risk.
No, I never did.
I never got, I never heard anybody say that they had enough.
That's crazy to me.
Just simply by the fact that, like, you know,
if you make a big score, if you have a ton of money
and a ton of cash, like being like, hey, you know what?
I've had a great run on them.
I know how this is going to end if I stay here.
Maybe I'm going to go live my life somewhere else.
No, and you know what's crazy is that,
look, I was with these guys for six years.
I lived with them.
I stayed in the same apartment with them, slept with them.
You wake up every morning thinking,
is today the day I go to jail?
Or is it today the day I get whacked?
It's like nuts, you know?
But that's their mentality, that's their mindset.
And if they made a $5 million score today,
then tomorrow, you know,
they want it to be a $10 million score.
Yeah.
I never heard anybody,
never, never heard anybody say,
man, I wish I never got into this life.
Yeah, I just can't imagine the anxiety
of being like today could be the day
that a cop just shows up at the social club
or at the bar and that's it.
Yeah, I mean, it's every day today was, you know,
was what are we going to score today, you know?
What'll get me killed?
All right.
Number one, good.
These are good things for an undercover agent to know,
because you're never going to be in a deep cover situation
where you're not going to get into a beef with somebody,
either verbally or physically.
If I get into a beef with you,
I can't insult you in front of other people.
You and I have a verbal argument.
I can't insult you in front of other people.
That could get me killed.
Take it a step further.
We're in this beef.
You give me a smack.
If I lay my hands on you, I'm dead.
You can't lay your hands on a maid guy.
You know what a maid guy is, right?
A maid guy, in case your listeners don't know,
somebody has been officially indoctrinated into the mafia.
Okay.
Never steal money from the family.
All these will get you killed.
The other thing will get you killed.
You don't fool around with a wise guy's wife,
daughter, or girlfriend.
That'll get you killed.
So they have these rules and they live by them.
They used to anyway, you know, the mob today,
you know what the big downfall of the mafia was is?
And I saw it, young kids using drugs.
Instead of dealing in it, making money of it,
making money from it, them using it.
Like Christopher, when he gets addicted to heroin
and then sits on his set,
and then has to kill him on the side of the road.
Yeah.
No spoilers.
No spoilers at all.
Here's a dumb question.
You mentioned like a wise guy's wife, daughter, girlfriend.
What if you sleep with a wise guy's mom?
You're dead.
I thought maybe that was a loophole.
Maybe she's lonely.
Who knows?
Yeah.
Well, maybe if you're single, you're all right.
But if you're married, then, you know.
Yeah.
They don't look too kindly on that.
Yeah.
So I had one last question
and you can go listen to Deep Cover, the podcast.
So I was reading about it.
Is there still actively a hit out on your life?
It's never been rescinded.
But I don't think anybody gets up every morning and say,
hey, I'm going to look for Donny Brasco today.
Right.
What I do is where I live,
the neighbors don't know who I am.
As I'm not really that friendly,
a guy with neighbors, anyway.
Yeah, it hasn't been rescinded,
nobody's out.
Well, you have a podcast.
So yeah, I would assume that you're okay with talking.
Yeah.
That's kind of like the question.
When is the podcast bubble getting its fullest?
It's like when guys who are hiding in undercover
in fear for their lives have very successful podcasts.
It's kind of saturated at that point.
Well, I'm excited to listen to it.
I really am because your life fastens.
Yeah.
Hey, can I mention one other thing too?
Yeah.
I mean, if it's okay.
Yeah.
I have another podcast.
It's not mine.
It's called The Undercovers.
All right.
There's one season out already
and I'm going to be the second season.
And my good friend, Eddie Follis,
who is a retired DE agent undercover.
And you guys may have heard of Billy Queen alone
in undercover, the ATF agent that spent time
with the Mongols undercover.
We got a podcast.
We just did, I think nine episodes
and it'll be out in a couple of months.
And the exciting thing is that Ed O'Neill,
you know who Ed O'Neill is, right?
The actor, he's one of the narrators, the main narrator
and Ray Liot is the other narrator of it.
Very cool.
That should be out in, I don't know,
maybe another month or so.
The Mongols one, that's the,
is that the motorcycle gang?
Yeah.
The Mongols, yeah.
Billy Queen, yeah.
But my main podcast, you know,
is deep cover of real Donnie Brasswell.
That's what I'm doing with Leo Rossi
and Jamstreet Media.
Of course, it's on other, wherever you get your podcast.
And Jamstreet Media's got some wearing a barrel
that they're selling off of that.
I'm not a good salesman.
No, no, this is a great plug.
I honestly like, I'm gonna listen to your podcast
because this type of stuff is fascinating to me.
I think I've read maybe seven books in the last 20 years
and five of them are about the mafia.
I'll tell you, if you read the books,
read Donnie Brasswell,
My Undercover Life in the Mafia, number one.
And then read On Finish Business.
Make that the second one, because that's the run up.
And then I got another one out.
Well, it's been out a while called The Way of the Wise Guy.
And that's kinda, you know, how wise guys act
and what they do, et cetera, et cetera.
Okay.
All right.
Hold on.
When's this air?
Probably in the next week or so.
Oh, is that right?
Yeah.
I got one last question for you.
Did you watch The Departed?
Yeah.
What did you think of the ending?
Where they zoom in on the rat?
Did you get the zoom in?
Like the rat symbolized a rat at the end?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
I thought, yeah, yeah.
Hey, again, it was crazy
because I told my grandkids, you know,
and they're like, wow, you know,
those guys are, they're the top.
And my one granddaughter, who's,
she follows or Dave Point.
What's Dave Point?
Yeah.
It's her boss.
Yeah.
That's her capo.
He follows her on Instagram.
Oh, wow.
Are we implicated now?
Like, are we implicated as being associates of yours?
Yeah, sure.
All right.
You're under me now.
All right.
Well, that could be a problem for us.
All right.
Well, thank you so much.
Yeah.
Your producers have my contact.
If you ever need anything, call me.
Great.
Okay.
I appreciate it.
Sounds great.
Thank you so much, Joe.
We really appreciate it.
I appreciate it, guys.
Thanks.
Thank you very much.
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All right, I just have sent the beta version
of our new t-shirt.
Let's see it.
Yeah, it's gonna look sick.
Bang Chan's bro, I like that.
And that's, we need to name that guy.
Like it doesn't have to be on the shirt,
but just so that we're-
Trevor, Tyler.
Lance.
Lance.
Come on, Billy.
Get us something.
A big time Frisbee guy that used to be a concert
on my campus named Brody Smith.
Brody Smith.
Brody.
Okay.
That guy's big.
Is he?
Yeah, he's real.
You know Brody Smith?
I mean, I haven't-
I was in eighth grade, but-
So just one on the record that is Brody,
our frouffer, but it's not the Brody,
so you can't see him just-
No, no.
It's a Brody that used to bang Chan's J.
Potentially.
He would remember the camp,
and then he'd be like-
Yeah, of course.
Yeah, then I remember.
Oh, you were a camper there.
Do you think he saw any future frothing in you?
He created, not disc golf,
but he created Ultimate Frisbee as an activity.
He invented Ultimate Frisbee.
No, at camp.
He like started-
I mean, that's what he's saying.
I know, he-
No, he invented Ultimate Frisbee.
No, he started the league,
the Ultimate Frisbee-
But that's not-
Ultimate Frisbee is-
I mean, I was saying Hank invented Jenga.
The Mohicans invented Wall.
But the professional-
Oh, he did play Barstool.
He brought it to camp, is all I'm saying.
Got it.
Well, that's important, so it's like-
He introduced it to Jake.
Yeah.
He-
It's like Europeans brought football to America.
He's Eli Whitney.
Yeah.
Sort of.
He discovered it.
He's more like-
It sounds like he discovered Ultimate Frisbee.
He's more like Paul Rable.
Paul Rable?
Paul Rable.
Cause he created the professional league.
Right, but he didn't invent La Crosse.
Right.
Okay, go ahead.
Brody Smith.
I love that name, Brody Smith.
Okay, that's Brody Vangachains on the shirt.
He did-
Dude, perfect videos.
He did?
Cancel him.
Cancel him.
All right, Hank, FireFest of the Week.
My FireFest, we alluded to it earlier,
but you know, everyone's got their favorite,
like, toy they have as a kid.
You stop.
Mine was-
You know-
Was Mr. Potato Head.
Yeah, of course.
It was like, you know,
I struggled with friends and for a while,
it was like, he's-
Are you serious right now?
He's my guy friend.
He's my boy.
Oh, you know.
Mr. Potato Head.
Did you just like him because of the toy story?
And then, of course, well, it was like, I liked him.
It was like, you know, you'd like someone
and they go mainstream and you're like,
I like them even more now.
Yeah, you were a fan of his before you went to school.
I have a question.
What's the-
But they changed him today.
They massacred my boy.
They were waiting for you.
They massacred and they neutered him.
Yeah, they're giving him a spud,
a gender-neutral new name.
Just Potato Head.
What is it?
Are they taking away his dick?
Isn't there a Mrs. Potato Head?
Yes.
So what the hell's the problem?
Right, and I don't know if they're changing her.
My sister liked the Mrs. Potato Head.
I liked the Mr.
And now it's like,
would I ever even gotten into him in the first place?
So I would say, if hypothetically,
you had a stash of old Mr. Potato Head genitals,
you stand to make a lot of money
because they're about to get rid of him.
NFT him.
NFT him.
Okay, I'm gonna NFT my Potato Head dicks.
I would love to talk to the founder
of Mr. Potato Head.
How high were you, dude?
That's the dumbest toy ever.
No, they were originally just-
No, they were literally like potatoes.
They were potatoes and they saw the excesses.
Okay, but he must have been high there.
Then, when he just started sticking shit in a potato
to keep his kids busy?
Yeah, I feel like in the fucking 1900s, that's, you know.
Yeah, that's true.
They didn't play with like a circular wooden,
like in a stick and that was like PS5.
Like sticking shit in a potato is better than Game Boy.
It's like, cool, I can take this with me wherever I go.
I can take it in the horse.
Call of Duty used to be just throwing rocks at trains.
Yeah.
All right, good fire fest.
Bad fire fest.
Is that it, Hank?
PFT, what's your fire fest?
Yeah, it's been a tough week.
Oh, my fire fest is I'm passing a kidney stone.
Or I did pass a kidney stone like a couple hours ago.
I don't know if it's still going through right now
and I've got more.
You're with stones.
I was stones.
I went to the urologist today, they checked me out,
which it's always weird because they, you know,
they got to make you take your pants off.
Did they look at your dick?
Looked at my dick, everything's normal.
But they, I-
Did you laugh?
No, because I feel like urologists have to have a line
for every person that they've got.
Like they think of what their joke line is going to be
when they look at your chart.
So that's not super uncomfortable
when they're just like moving your dick.
And so mine was, hey, are you related to that pilot
that landed the plane on the river?
And he's like, cause your name is similar.
And I was like, my instinct was in my,
in my sick brain from five years of doing this podcast,
the only thing I could say back to him was,
you know, they named a drink after that guy.
And he's like, he's like, oh really?
And then I just didn't say the punchline to the joke.
So I just, I just set up the joke,
didn't add in the gray goose and a splash of water,
but that's the only thing that my warped brain
could think to say as another man with a glove
is touching my penis roughly.
I think that's fair.
I think, yeah, I'm lucky I got that out.
Like I honestly, I felt like that was a great interaction
after he left the room.
Yes.
But yeah, I was currently passing one a little bit ago.
I think, I don't know, I can't tell if it's still going
through my kidney or not right now.
But basically my inside is, is like the infinity stones,
the infinity gauntlet.
When's the last stone?
Huh?
I guess that's going to be, you know.
You said I have at least six.
How much longer do we have to live with these stones?
A lot.
I'm going to be milking it hard.
I'm going to be talking about it a lot.
I love stones.
So I've got a, I've got an appointment.
Buckle up.
Yeah.
Buckle up.
So I got, I got to name more of them.
Yup.
Yup.
Rock cartwright.
Pardon my take-yo spikes.
Okay.
I like that one.
Spikele Jordan.
Okay.
Bottom line is no more salads.
I fucked up by eating salads for a week
and now look at me.
Yeah.
Although they were, PFC came back.
I was like, Hey, how are you doing?
And he's like, yeah, they told me that sodium is really bad.
And then as, as he was saying that,
as the words were coming out of his mouth,
he had an order come in like the, like Enrique,
who works the front desk, walked over and it was just wings
and French fries and I'm like, well.
And, and I, I realized how ridiculous it was
because I looked at the receipt of my order
and on seamless when I ordered the wings,
it was lemon pepper wings and my,
my request for additional notes on there was,
can you add in extra seasoning, please?
So maybe it, maybe it is some, you know,
time to cut back occasionally on the soda.
Does this have anything to do with the hat?
No, nothing to do with the hat.
Just trying to, yeah.
Yeah.
If anything, the hat's been helping.
Yeah.
All right, my firecrackers, I have a zit on my nose
that's coming in and it's fucking painful.
Doesn't look as bad in person.
Let me see.
It looked bad on that video.
I look like Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer.
Really bad.
It's also just really painful.
Yeah. I look like one of those guys
who's been drinking for 80 years
and his nose is gonna fall.
Yeah.
If you squeeze it hard enough,
you'll look like a clown face T-shirt.
It hasn't come out.
It's like, maybe it's an ingrown hair.
It just sucks.
It's pretty much the worst thing that's ever happened to anyone.
I'm sorry that you're going through that right now.
Thank you. I appreciate that.
But you know what?
You know what?
Yeah, I know. I came in.
You know what?
Yeah.
Billy said all these comments about us seeming old.
He did? When?
You're getting, you're getting an acne outbreak.
Look at you.
You're basically a 13 year old.
Are you doing a cycle over there?
Yeah.
A little TRT.
Yeah. Trying to keep up with the young buck over here.
One thing that we should all acknowledge
is when Billy was having that conversation
with our boss, Erica,
he was talking about how old me and Big Cat were
to somebody that's older,
to a woman who's older than Big Cat.
How do you think that made our CEO-
And also through a 27 year old tank.
You basically called our CEO old to her face.
Also in a way that made it seem
like we all have the same job.
Yeah.
I have one more day of motivation that I will stop.
I was just literally trying to show value.
I just want that video to get to a million views.
So everyone knows who stabbed me in the back.
When I'm laying dead in this-
I'm pretty sure it started past the million.
Oh, it is. All right, good.
So when I, well, I'm still gonna tweet tomorrow.
But when I'm laying dead in the gutter
and they're like, how did he die?
Well-
Old age.
Billy football.
Billy football came and fucking gutted him.
No, it was father time.
What's your firefest, Billy?
So last week there were reports-
It's not your pants?
No, this is so much more, this is, these pants,
look, they're keeping me warm.
They're work pants.
Covering my-
What are you in the restaurant?
You're like, yeah, I'm wearing this thing.
It's just keeping me alive.
That's true.
It's like through their work pants.
I'm at work.
It's like, no, they're work pants
if you're on a construction site.
Yeah.
Anyway, last week there was reports out of Tasmania
that they spotted the Tasmanian tiger,
which went the last, so humans suck
and tend to kill large predators
when they go into a new area.
So the Tasmanian tiger, the last one died
in captivity in 1936.
The Tasmanian tiger is a large marsupial,
that carnivorous marsupial,
that the only reason they say it's a tiger
is because it has stripes on its back.
Imagine it's more like-
It's like a nurse shark.
It's just a name.
It's not actually a tiger.
You post that picture or I saw that picture.
It looks like Stella.
It looks like my dog.
Yeah.
So maybe I have one.
Maybe.
It's just a brindle marsupial.
Yeah.
Well, the stripes, yeah.
It's like half kangaroo though.
Yeah, it's like, imagine like a dingo with a pouch
with stripes on its back in like a really big mouth.
God was drunk when he made Australia,
the entire continent.
He was like, he was celebrating after making everything.
He's like, I did a great job.
Well, look at this, this is an elephant.
Look at this, it's an orchid flower.
It's so beautiful and intricate.
And then look, here's a fucked up duckbill platypus
that looks like it's a beaver that I stapled
like a bill to its nose.
Yeah, giant sharks and fucking little,
like enlarged squirrels that crawl really slow
up the trees and have syphilis.
Now I'm going to make an island where everything
that you touch will kill you.
Anyway, so there's a trail cam footage
of what looks like a family.
Wait, hold on one more.
What else we got?
Oh, there's a giant rock that I'm going to put out here
that just looks like a chick's mound.
The biggest spiders you've ever fucking seen
that you have to kill with a shovel,
otherwise they'll eat your babies.
And you're only allowed to live within two miles
of the coast on the entire fucking island
so that you're closer to the sharks.
Wombats, poop cubes.
Really?
Yeah.
That's pretty cool.
They're cubes.
I wish I started to eat cubes
if I have too many of the painkillers.
So there was a trail cam of what they thought
was a family of this and everyone was freaking out
because they're like nature is healing,
this extinct animal is actually not extinct.
And turns out it was just a bunch of wild dogs.
Yeah, so I saw the biologist that was taking credit for it
and I guess he's a pretty respected,
like he's a big name in the field of animal zoology
and he was walking down the street.
It looked like he was probably halfway
to being Johnny Damon levels of drunk
and he just had an open beer can in his hands.
He was like, great news, we discovered the tiger.
The tiger's not dead.
And he's like a famous doctor in Australia.
He's just fucking hammered, walked down the street.
It's like that is the most perfect Australian doctor
that I've ever seen in my life.
Like he's probably like the 40th drunkest person
in his town.
It was probably his life's work to find these tigers.
So he just found a couple of dogs?
Well, they looked like Tasmanian tigers.
Can I see the picture of them?
By the way, I'm looking at the cubes, the wombats poop.
That's pretty crazy.
Anyway, it turns out it wasn't
and it was really disappointing
because I got really excited.
Just a fucking dog.
I almost started drinking, no, I'm joking.
Jake.
Jake, all our tigers away.
I present to you one of the biggest scams in America.
Top shot.
Top shot?
Chapstick.
I keep losing mine.
It is impossible to finish a stick.
I've been on this for a while.
Oh really?
Put it in a different way.
Go ahead.
No, like I have to buy a new one every week.
You know what you gotta do?
You gotta fucking wear it as a necklace.
You're also, they've also addicted it.
You've gotten addicted to it.
Yes.
When you don't even need it at all.
Our darling Jake is addicted to chapstick and to nose spray.
I'm over that now, knock on wood.
Yeah.
But it's ridiculous.
How many days sober are you?
You don't use chapstick, Jake.
Your lips get chapped.
My lips don't ever get chapped.
Neither do mine.
Mine get chapped.
Mine get chapped, but you know what?
Don't give him a kiss.
It's cause I use chapstick.
Right.
But to my point, you got the spike in me.
You just buy one, it's cheap, it's two, three bucks,
but then you have to buy one next week and the week after.
Do you know anyone who's ever finished a chapstick?
Nope.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, chapstick's wife.
Oh, damn, that's good.
That is good.
That is good.
All right, that's the show.
Everyone numbers, 99, 20, 18, 8, 32, 17, I'm fucking.
Oh, shout out Mike Greenberg.
Mike Greenberg, they just announced
he's going to be doing the NFL Draft.
Oh, great, another show for him.
More greeny.
All greeny all the time.
He seriously has had a power play for every job at ESPN.
Yes, he wanted it just to be ESPN greeny.
73.
73.
They should do it.
They should also do like a, over the top, a premium.
It's a timer.
Yeah.
Like only fan style.
That was the first timer?
Holy shit.
Hank, still nothing.
Liam said 17.
It's crazy that we have only had Liam,
no, Billy, Liam, and Jake.
Yeah.
All right.
Billy, do you have an animal fact for us?
Yes.
One, that's cute.
I didn't blow my load too early on that one.
Off the coast of Ireland, there's an island
of feral wallabies that just live there.
That sounds pretty cool.
Nice.
Wallabies are like smaller kangaroos.
Love you guys.
Love you guys.
See you guys Monday.
Love you guys.
Take on me.
Take me on.
Are you going to want me?
Needless to say, I'm odd to say this.
But I'm being stolen away.
Billy, Liam, life is OK.
Say I'm free.
It's no better to be safe than sorry.
Say I'm free.
It's no better to be safe than sorry.
Take on me.
Take me on.
Are you going to want me?
Are you going to want me?
Are you going to want me?
Are you going to want me?
Are you going to want me?
Are you going to want me?
Are you going to want me?
Are you going to want me?
Are you going to want me?