Pardon My Take - Football. Week 10 Recap, Fastest 2 Minutes, Done Chains, And Coach O's Big Win
Episode Date: November 11, 2019NFL Week 10 Fastest 2 minutes (2:12 - 8:11). Kirk Cousins won a primetime game but also Jason Garrett lost it, Lamar Jackson is incredible. Freddie Kitchens did his best to keep fucking up the Browns,... The Bears might just be back, the Chiefs are an enigma, Dan Quinn's job was saved, Pat Shurmur's wasn't. The Dolphins are hot and the Jets may run the table. Who's back of the week. Football guy of the week. Recapping a great College Football Weekend and LSU/Minnesota's big wins. Plus a Monday Reading from Darren Rovell.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake
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Today is Monday, November 11th, Week 10.
The Ocho Plus Deuce, Week 10.
Semana 10, we start in the windy city where cocaine Mitch Trebisky shut down Marvin Matt
Jones' offensive campaign.
Jeff Epstein Driscoll didn't kill himself, but haha Bill Clinton Dix and the Bears defense
did.
Club Dub is back open as there is no Quit Kowsky in the monsters of the midway.
Nick, that is, Bears 20, Lions 13.
In Cincinnati where the Red Hot Ravens meet the rock bottom bangles.
Hey Tige, ya boom?
Is this the Ravens backfield on the New York City Athletic Club in mid December?
You're too much, boom.
Well Robert Griffin the turn was a quality number two behind Kendrick Lamar Jackson who
hooked up with the Hollywood Brown for that.
Coach Zach Eric Taylor says full eyes, clear farts, always lose as the bangles stay witness.
Ravens 49, the Cincinnati bangles 13.
We go up I-71 to Cleveland where Freddie Mercury Kitchen says we are the offseason champions
and he just needs somebody.
Ooh somebody, can anybody find Freddie?
Somebody to chubb.
Frank Gore Vidal has had a long career but struggled to produce any quality screenplays.
Stop me if you've heard this before but the Bills missed an important kick in a game winning
situation as Steven burning down the house.
God, missed two crucial field goals and the talking heads will be discussing his job security
after this one.
Brown 16, Bills 13.
Some spread.
And the big easy where Breeze are dying at an alarming rate as they're missing Teddy
Bridgewater with claims that Drew is too waspy even though he'll get a yellow jacket one day.
Alvin Camaradona in the Saints offense was plugged up worse than I know is after a night
at an Argentinian nightclub.
Dan Quinn Snyder has his defense jazzed up and ready to go with this big match and his
job is safe as there won't be a quentrum head coach this week.
Falcons 26.
The Sites, none.
Whip.
Whip.
To the Meowderlands for the Cat Bowl at PetLife Stadium.
This is a feline town.
No room for Saquon Bark Bark Barkley.
Sam Darnold Schwarzenegger said I'll be back back back back back back back as he looked
at the New York receiving core and said our money isn't walking through that door.
It's not at home.
The Jets, the Giants head coach, patched Shermanator to take serious heat on his seats.
And we're not talking about a Mike Francis.
I got caught in between a boomer and a Schwarzenegger.
We're not talking about a Mike Francis at the Office of Child Fun, folks.
Speaking of hot seats, the Jets coach, Adam Gasolina, temporary put out to buy a Jets 34.27.
Nailed it, boom.
Standing on the corner, James Winston Temple floater, such a fine sight to see.
It's a coach, my lord, looking sharp as a sword.
Oh, my God, that's the King's Marry.
Come on, Kyler.
Don't be a liar.
You're really five-eight.
You're going to get your GM fired.
Box 30, Cardinals 27.
Nailed it, boom.
In the frozen tundra, we go where Kyle Tim Allen looked up at the sky and said,
Officers, I know who provided this cocaine.
Aaron Brockovich Rodgers said, now that Eddie Lacey has got someone in this backfield needs to have a couple C-cups.
Jimmy Instagram made his influence, known as Aaron Jones, brought the bang energy to the Packers offense,
and Danny Vitale led the way, smashing that follow button.
It was Aeron's day, but not Rivera's, as the Panthers season was shook up by the Lambo Snow Club.
Packers 24, the Packers 16.
Dolphin 16, Colts 13.
We finish in the still city, where Mike Tomlin was playing chess, while Sean McVeigh was playing hackers.
Mason, don't you know I'm human, too?
Why you gotta be so rude off?
Brought the magic with an exclamation point, and the Rams are regretting marrying that girly.
Makeoff, it's Patrick Swayze, dropped in on Cali bro Jared Goff's wave, scoring six point breaks on the way to a Steelers win.
Steelers 17, the Rams 12.
Alright, week 10 in the books.
Almost. Kirk Cousins has won a prime time game.
Now Kirk Cousins, should we say Kirk Cousins won a prime time game, or should we say Dalvin Cook won a prime time game,
and Jason Garrett's ineptitude won a prime time game.
Or Ezekiela Elliott lost a prime time game.
Or basically the entire Cowboys coaching staff being like, hey, Dak Prescott is in the zone.
He's doing his hip motions and looking like an awesome, awesome quarterback.
Let's make sure that we hand the ball off a couple of times in this last drive to establish the run when we need a touchdown.
You have to, because that opens up the play action on the Hail Mary later, if you hand the ball off to Zeke.
The clip of Dak before the game warming up, activating his hips, firing the glutes off.
He was dancing around like, well, it was like, hips don't lie.
Yeah, hips don't lie.
He looked like Elaine Benes on meth if I could make a reference that Mike Florio would understand from Seinfeld.
And everyone's father.
He was, it looked so funny when he was doing that, just like twitching his hips.
I'm going to start doing that before we tape.
Just getting your hips.
Just going, firing them up.
So we should say that the Vikings deserve all the credit going into Dallas Sunday night.
The Cowboys are off a buy and they have an impressive win.
Look very strong on both sides of the ball.
Do just enough on defense against Dak who is, who is playing unbelievably.
Do you feel foolish by making a mockery of the done chain and having the Vikings be done changed?
Cause you have done chains no longer a real thing.
I think what I need to accept is that Kirk cousins.
There was a change.
I don't want to overuse the M word change, but there was a change in what he did when he apologized.
Adam Thielen.
I think they're five and one after Kirk.
I always said that he was a sorry quarterback.
Adam Thielen.
I didn't mean like apology wise, but now I think I almost, in order to get over this,
I need to apologize to Kirk cousins.
And the done chain.
Because you've made a mockery of it.
Cause you can't done chain anymore when you done chain a team that is very much in,
in the running here for like, who's the best team in the NFC?
The Saints.
Are you going to say the Saints who have scored?
We'll get to them.
They've scored three games this year.
They've scored zero touchdowns.
Yeah.
I don't know.
49ers.
Okay.
Yeah.
But like my point is there are a lot of teams in the NFC where you could look and be like,
yeah, they might have a flaw.
Yeah.
I like the Vikings.
You basically look at them and you're like, uh, their flaws Kirk cousins, but the rest
of their teams is pretty good.
And they remember they had a tight end this week too.
Yes.
That's awesome.
Big country caught two touchdowns and a two person version.
So I, I think the Vikings by bigger point is the Vikings are definitely need to be taken
for real in terms of the NFC.
Like they are a team that could beat anyone in my mind.
I don't think there's one, there's not one team in the NFC where like, man, that, that
team, besides maybe the 49ers, and this will be a big game on Monday night.
But the top five, six teams, the NFC, you're like, they could all, if they get hot at the
right time, they could go to the Super Bowl.
Isn't it such a bonus going into a Monday where there's a game that we're looking forward
to?
Oh yeah.
It feels like the week is twice as long when there is a good Monday night game that we
have.
There's actually Monday night football, if you've taken a look peek ahead, actually
there's a really good run coming up.
Yeah.
Like we got a bunch of really good games.
They should flex that dolphin Cincinnati Bengals game into a Monday night football game.
Yes.
That would be great too.
Just like mix it up a little bit.
And not to, not that anyone cares, but Hank, would you like to talk about it real quick?
Sure.
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They're winning eight straight games first in the league.
I was playing them this week.
We're in a battle right now.
Right now we have Jimmy Garoppolo and Russell Wilson.
This even sucks.
But you guys sat three players.
Yeah.
We had, well, we didn't say three players.
We had three players in a bi-week.
We knew about it.
We knew that you were holding it from us.
We were waiting to hear from you.
In Texas till 1222 this morning.
Uh-huh.
Letting us know we've got three players that are in buys and guess what we did?
Absolutely nothing.
Nothing.
Don't mess with chemistry.
We're all.
This is the worst segment we've ever done.
All I'm saying is if you guys beat me this week, I'm going to have to retire from this
podcast.
Oh, that'd be a shame.
Oh, damn.
So we wouldn't have to talk about the fantasy.
Yeah.
We wouldn't have to rearrange the studio twice a week.
Oh.
Oh.
Wow.
Yeah.
I mean, he's not wrong.
I'm not wrong.
He's not wrong.
But yeah.
I think we're back to the Sunday night game.
I agree.
The Vikings are legit.
I do apologize to the Vikings.
Okay.
I apologize.
And I feel like if I, if I won up Kirk with my apologies, then that, that will take away
all the magic from him.
Can you retroactively undun chain them for now?
I will.
Yeah.
I will take the dun chain off.
Okay.
Cause then I feel like we can get back to it.
The.
It always felt like a, it was like a, you were, you were basically shooting from half
court.
I was doing a cocky move to be like Vikings done week two.
It was a heat check.
Yeah.
So the Vikings won, but Alabama lost.
So it's kind of a mixed bag for people who really love cousins this weekend.
Ooh.
Nice.
Nice.
I was like 1.75 just because I feel like Rick has done it.
So probably I, I did love how Mike Zimmer looked.
I love the general aesthetic of him.
We were talking about that.
He basically is a guy who temperature, and I think everyone knows everyone has this
person in their life.
You know, it's probably your uncle who drinks a little too much, a little, little heavy.
Any temperature outside of 65 to 75 degrees and it looks like he has a sunburn.
So it's cold, extreme cold.
And when we're talking extreme cold, we're talking 58 extreme hot.
That's a 79 degree day.
Yeah.
He just looks very flush.
They practice indoors.
They play their games indoors.
Well, they practice indoors for the most part and they're going to be playing a dome game.
And somehow he manages to always be sunburn.
Yes.
Which he probably does knowing his outlook on toughness and just hygiene in general.
So that wouldn't surprise me yet, but the Vikings are a legit team.
They're very, very good.
The Cowboys are, they're my most confusing team, I think.
I actually don't think they're that confusing.
And here's why.
I think that Dak Prescott is a franchise quarterback, but them as a full team, not that
good.
And the teams they've beaten have been bad and they, they beat up on like the sisters
of the poor.
And then when they have to take a step up in class, they look like shit.
And I think the Eagles will win that division.
I think the Eagles will win that division because they're now tied five and four and
the, and the remaining game is in Philadelphia.
But if you look at who the Cowboys have left, they have to go to the Lions at the Patriots.
They have the Rams, the Eagles.
So they, I mean, it's going to be, there's some losses on there.
It's going to be tough.
So I think the Eagles will win that division.
And I think Jason Garrett will ultimately be fired, which he should have been like four
years ago, but, you know, Jerry Jones just forgot to do it this week.
He's definitely going to start doing some press conferences, being like, what the fuck
is up with Jason Garrett?
Yeah.
And we're on, I think this is a five game streak of Jason Garrett being shown during
a game.
He probably gets, I would, I would estimate eight to 10 minutes worth of FaceTime on those
extreme close-ups.
And he still hasn't said a word while the cameras on him, he still has not talked.
He likes to hold up one finger saying we're going for one clap.
He loves to call for an extra point after a touchdown clap.
Put up the thing behind, you know, the, the play card in front of his face, but he's
not saying anything.
Right.
Behind it.
He's just putting it up just so that people can't see that he's not saying anything.
Hey, where does they don't want to be like, Hey, why is that guy never say anything?
He's the head coach.
Where did this paranoia come from where every, every NFL head coach thinks that there's
somebody lip reading him at all times?
I actually don't think it's about the play calling.
I think that NFL head coaches say like, fuck you to their quarterbacks so often that they
don't want to make that a big deal.
And it happens in baseball all the time too.
Yes.
Two pitchers talking into their glove.
That's just a cool thing.
Yeah, it looks pretty sweet.
We should do a whole podcast where we're just talking gloves.
Speaking into our glove.
Yeah.
Do we have any gloves?
Do we have any gloves?
I've got one at my desk from my full kid.
I was rocking.
This is me talking into a hat right now.
Can you change?
There's no, so you could be saying anything.
Hey, when we do the subtitles, put in a bunch of racial slurs underneath what big cats saying
right now.
Hank, you're a piece of shit.
You're not even paying attention to the show because you bet on this stupid Raptors Lakers
game.
No one knows what I was saying.
Well, big cat.
That was really racist.
All right.
Let's get into the games.
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Okay.
Ravens Bengals.
Let's do it.
Lamar Jackson is so good.
He got Michael Vick's name trending.
That is pretty good.
Vic was trending.
That's how good Lamar Jackson is.
That's how special he is.
He is out of this world like Mike Vic was that Ronnie made had where he did the spin
move and ran through the entire Bengals defense, which stinks, but still was incredible.
And they had the three, the Heisman backfield.
Yeah.
Do you think that that was the best spin move of all time in an NFL game?
I was thinking through the best spin moves in sports and Braxton Miller against Virginia
Tech.
Do you remember that?
That was good when Joe Madden against Joe West when he was arduous.
And then Lamar.
I actually think that Lamar Jackson could run little reasons he buys, but yeah, I mean,
that was an unbelievable spin move.
I'm with you on that.
I think he could run faster doing nothing but spin moves than Eli Manning could in a straight
line.
Yes.
He's incredible to watch.
He also, this new thing that he does, it's not new, but it's, he's been, you don't see
it in the NFL ever because first you don't see pitch plays ever, but Lamar going like
six yards down the field and then pitching it to rugby offload to Mark Ingram going full
speed ahead is unstoppable.
So I, here's a hot take ready for one.
Hit me.
This win by the Ravens today was more impressive than their wins against the Patriots and the
Seahawks because this was a classic letdown spot, a classic spot where the Ravens were
going to read their press clippings and say, we're going to be in the Super Bowl and we
just killed the Patriots on Sunday night football and the Bengals are coming off a
buy and they have Ryan Finley coming in and they're going to spark the offense and the
Ravens are going to sleepwalk their way to maybe like a, like a three point win with
a field goal to end the game.
No.
You can polish them from the first play on and having that like the teams, the mark
of a good team is, is crushing the bad teams.
I really think that like the, anyone can win the NFL is so hard to win.
If you, if you put two very good teams up against each other, it's pretty much going
to be a coin flip, but when you put a really good team against a bad team, if they don't
crush them, I'm going to be like, you know what, that team's not what I thought it was.
I think the one flaw in your argument is that these Bengals are a team that will get
crushed by everybody.
They're actively trying to lose.
So yeah, this is, it could have even the Ryan Finley game, it could have been a letdown,
but it wasn't.
I think, I mean, the Ravens obviously look awesome.
I think that they're going to win the Super Bowl.
I really do believe that.
I think that this was, this was actually Robert, that one play that he had, Super Bowl for
RG three.
There was a moment when he caught that offload from Lamar, where you saw him consider it.
You saw him think about doing something really stupid.
You always see that when Griffin's running ball, he thinks about running a straight line
towards a linebacker a lot and he's like, I can run through this guy and he didn't do
it.
That's probably the, the, the best compliment I can give to this Ravens team is that Robert
Griffin has played offensive snaps and not gotten injured yet.
Yeah.
It's true.
It is very true.
He played many offensive snaps because Lamar Jackson had six drives today.
One ended the first half, the other five touchdowns.
That's pretty damn good.
He's really good.
Yeah.
That's pretty damn good.
So the Ravens, what they did today, very, very impressed.
I've been impressed with them the last three weeks.
Ravens fans still hate me.
That's fine.
I'll own that.
I'll wear that.
We got to talk about the other side.
The Bengals are the worst team in the NFL and should we start, we're going to talk about
college football later, but should we start the Joe Burrow going home?
He's from Athens, Ohio.
I think he grew up a Browns fan, but that's still only like two and a half hours away.
So Joe Burrow back to the state of Ohio as a Cincinnati Bengal number one pick.
I think we can.
It's never too early to start a narrative.
Big cat.
Yeah.
That's a good narrative too.
Right.
As a very good hometown kid.
Yeah.
Hometown kid coming back to make good.
I hope that he doesn't go to the Bengals.
I really, I really would not like to sit because I like Joe Burrow.
Yeah.
He's a big guy.
I mean, the dolphins would be when you're picking number one, you're picking number
one.
It's not going to be great.
Yeah.
It's not going to be a good situation no matter what.
I like too that we just decided Joe Burrow is going number one because he beat Tua.
That's it.
I decided the number one pick.
And that would be great if Tua went to Cincinnati though.
That would be that would be his helicopter dad had to try Skyline Chile.
Yeah.
Say this, I think that Tua would really look awesome in a Bengals uniform.
Yes, he would.
That would look sick.
I'm kind of rooting for that.
I want to say something nice about the Bengals because I feel like we need to move off the
dolphin and say something nice about them.
They're nice on their own.
They're on a winning streak right now.
They're killing people.
They'll get to them in a little bit.
But the Bengals, I think it's pretty cool the way that they're handling the AJ Green
situation.
Yeah.
They're just like, oh, he was going to practice.
He was going to play today.
He practiced a little bit, but he felt bad and warm up, so we're not going to play him.
Yeah.
They're just like doing him a solid.
Like we get the fact that you don't want to play on this team.
We don't want you to play because you're too good and we might accidentally win a game
if you get out there.
So we're going to pay you to help us tank by not playing.
Yes.
Another nice thing about the Bengals, we at Barstool headquarters, we have six TVs and
Direct TV.
There were seven games on.
They were so bad right from the jump that we didn't have to keep that game on.
Yeah.
So that was really nice to them.
Plus every single play was on the Red Zone channel because it was Lamar doing something
incredible.
So you got to watch the entire game.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The Bengals are, they are doing a great job of like being under the radar with how bad
they're tanking.
Yeah.
It's a good job.
The stories have been about the Dolphins, the stories have been about the Jets, but
the Bengals, you guys stink and you're doing a great job at this.
So keep it up.
I think that's what you're intentionally trying to do.
I don't.
And if you're not, you've got to lean into it at this point.
Yep.
And this was the plan.
This was always the plan.
Yeah.
Trust the process.
Yes.
That we never wanted to win.
Okay.
I'll nitpick Lamar real quick.
You see him wearing sunglasses after the game.
Yeah, I like that.
It's a bullshit move.
No, I like that.
You're wearing sunglasses.
You can't look somebody in the eye.
No, I like that.
It's a bullshit move.
It were cool sunglasses.
They were actually very cool.
Yeah.
There were sunglasses that if I wore them, people would be like, that guy sucks as a
tryhard.
And if anybody that's like above the age of 30 wore them, you're like, that guy's a cop.
But Lamar Jackson wore them and it was very cool.
Very cool.
All right.
Bill's Browns.
The Browns season has been saved in spite of Freddie Kitchens best efforts to ruin it
yet again.
That was essentially Freddie Kitchens has put on a masterclass on how not to coach a
football team.
Whether you're talking about the timeout he called in the third quarter, which I still
we still don't have an answer for the bills.
We're going for it on fourth and four with like three seconds left before the end of
the quarter.
I think they were trying to get everyone off sides.
He called the timeout with three seconds left.
Yeah, just to make sure that I even said what we were watching was like, is there some extreme
wind we don't know about that he's trying to get him to go the opposite?
Like he's trying to get them to run the fourth down play going into the wind.
Like, nope.
It's actually not a windy day at all.
That's the student section on the other side.
We want to be close to them to get a big round of applause before we hit the plate.
It was stupid.
It was really, really dumb.
And then goal line and then the goal line situation from 0 for 8 0 for 8 from the one
yard line.
That's the worst thing that's ever happened in Cleveland on the one yard line.
One 0 for 8 on the one yard line.
That's so impressive.
They got two two penalties that bailed them out and they still couldn't do it.
And then the next time they go down and they're in the five within the five yard line and they
go for three and then on fourth down they're about to go for it.
They get a false start and they kick a field goal.
So they basically went 0 for 11 and then kicked a field goal.
I'm going to chalk it up to the fact that they changed the markings on the end zone.
So they went from horizontal brown and orange stripes to vertical brown and orange stripes
across the end zone.
That's what they were all last year when they went five and three.
And then they changed it this off season.
How'd you know that if you're the Cleveland Browns they were treating it was something
on Twitter about yeah if you're the Cleveland Browns and you go five and three to close
out a season.
That is the best thing that your franchise has done since relocating.
Yes.
Or since coming back after the relocation to Baltimore.
Why would you change a single thing about anything related to the team facility.
It's one of those situations where you're like don't touch anything.
Nobody move.
Things are going well.
And then they just completely changed the entire look of the end zone.
Things are going great for the Browns.
They have won 10 games in the last 26 in the previous 64.
They won 10 games.
So things are fucking awesome for the Browns.
Swagger juniors 1 and 0 compared comparatively speaking they are on these are the the golden
ages of the Cleveland Browns.
So Freddie Kitchens one last thing Freddie Kitchens just fucking everything up.
Nick Chubb was on fire and then you stop running them.
I don't understand what's going on.
You knew that the bills could be run on.
You knew you had Nick Chubb.
Freddie Kitchens is I'm actually at the point now where I'm worried about Baker being like
Baker won this game with that drive in the end.
If Baker wins games he's keeping Freddie Kitchens alive.
So at some point Baker has to like look in the mirror and be like should I should I not
try to win this game so that Freddie Kitchens does get fired.
And maybe he's going to ruin everything.
Maybe Baker's hand got much better this whole yeah as first reported by have you heard anything
about that.
Nope.
His hand doing all right.
Look good.
Yeah.
Look at your broken hand.
Well that was in week one.
So it takes the metatarsals or what are the metacarpals about two months to heal.
So I don't really want to talk about broken hands this weekend.
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
Yeah that was bad.
The pop pass.
You see the pop pass.
Yes.
That was returning.
That was a fumble.
Yes.
I love pop passes.
Pop passes are cool because even if you're an incompetent play caller as Freddie Kitchens
tends to be from time to time.
If you run a cool pop pass people will slap their other more likely to slap the mad scientist
tag on.
Yes.
That's like a that's a modern.
A modern offense.
If you run a pop pass.
Yeah.
And and also accounts for passing yard which is great because they don't do anything and
you're like oh that's nice.
Do you think Freddie just outsmarts himself all the time.
No I think he's legitimately a dumb dumb person.
So it's very easy to outsmart.
I think Freddie thinks to himself if something's going really well you hear that nice sound
his back fucking we're going to flush the air all business Pete tell me to shut the
fuck up.
I think when something's going good for Freddie Kitchens he always thinks to himself they're
about to be on to your Freddie they're going to know they're going to know what you're
going to go to.
He's switched it up.
Yeah.
He's essentially just playing a rock paper scissors shoot game with the with the opposing
coach but the opposing coach doesn't know that they're playing a game.
So he's like oh he thinks I want to throw a rock.
He thinks I'm going to he thinks I'm going to keep running Nick Chubb because it's working
better start throwing it deep with no offensive line.
Right.
Really fuck them up.
And as far as the bills go I feel like every game that they play is teens versus teens
on teens for the final score.
Yes.
It's like always 19 16.
Yeah.
17 16.
The bills are I don't want to say that they're schizophrenic yet but I don't think I still
think they're going to make the playoffs but they probably have the most glaring weaknesses.
They have issues in the AFC.
They're a work in progress.
The bills are the classic team that if you're a bills fan you can sell yourself on hey we
want to make the playoffs because we're building something here.
It's not a finished product.
Right.
That's not what we're going for.
No.
Everyone knows it's not a finished product.
They're not going to be competing for a Super Bowl this year but let's get the guys into
the playoffs.
Get the young guys some playoff reps and then next year we're ready for it.
You see Sean McDermott before the game who's rocking the Peaky Blinders at that's a new
thing this year.
Everyone's right.
Matt Nagy did it.
So made it really stupid.
That's very cool.
Speaking of which let's go to that game the Lions and the Bears.
Congratulations.
Yes.
The Bears are back.
Mitch Trebisky.
They always say about your quarterback it's how you finish halves and start halves.
Well you had a touchdown in the end the first half and you had a touchdown to start the
second half and guess what the other thing they say is the mark of a true team true
good team is to find a way to not lose five in a row.
That's right.
They found a way to not lose five in a row.
Maybe it was because Matt Stafford broke his back literally broke his back and he's so
fucking tough that he wanted to play.
He didn't know that he was going to keep him out 163 game streak broken not well his back
is also also a 163 game streak broken.
That is so impressive as a quarterback who has played his entire career behind like shitty
offensive lines and getting the shit kicked out of him.
So credit to Matt Stafford but thank you for Jeff Driscoll because Mitch Trebisky wasn't
the worst quarterback on the field.
There you go.
And this is this is one of those games where you're like you got to find a way to win a
close game so you can like you can take solace in that club dubs back open.
Club dubs back open which is it was a divisional game.
It's hard to win a divisional game in the NFL.
So congratulations.
OK.
So I got a question about club dubs.
So I declare club dubs dead when John Gruden mocked it.
Yes.
Matt Nagy said afterwards of course we're going to keep doing it.
That's who we are.
What happens when the Bears are like week 16 and they're whatever it will be whatever
the numbers are six six no they're six and nine and they are it's weeks week 17 and they
win seven and nine seven and nine not do they do club dubs.
That's who they are.
That's who they are.
That's the problem with saying that's who you are is like eventually we're going to get
to a point where club dubs is going to be that club that everyone stopped going to because
the bouncer stopped started busting everyone for cocaine in the bathroom and everyone's
like we're not going here anymore.
Yeah it's too hot.
That's the new club dubs.
Yeah they're going to be people just like throwing up in trash cans and just the worst
of the worst.
Yeah like it's a bridge and tunnel crew here.
We're not going to this club anymore.
That's club dubs.
It's not cool anymore.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I think that you got to let them have some fun and you beat you beat Jeff Driscoll.
You should be a NASCAR driver.
Yeah Jeff Driscoll great NASCAR name.
He's got Moxie too.
Also Moxie-ish.
Do you I did a deep dive in Jeff Jeff Driscoll this morning when my world was thrown upside
down.
I knew I had to beat Jeff Driscoll today from the same town as Blake Portals.
Okay.
Rival high schools.
Blake put a fucking 50 burger on him his senior year 5514 suck that Jeff Driscoll.
What was Driscoll recruited to UCF.
Jeff Driscoll was he went to Florida and he was like pretty much known as the best recruit
in Florida at the time.
He stinks.
They got that wrong.
He stinks.
They got that one.
Absolutely wrong.
I mean he did one of my favorite plays in all of football actually might be my favorite
play that's that's not successful play.
So obviously shovel passes a successful shovel pass my favorite but the unsuccessful favorite
play I have is when the quarterback runs like five yards past the line of scrimmage and
still throws.
Yeah.
That is so always makes me laugh when everyone in the stadium knows that it's not going to
it's not going to count except for the quarterback.
The opposite of an Orlovsky.
Yeah.
We're talking about people that can make things trend anytime a quarterback comes close to
run out of the back of the end zone Orlovsky catches.
He catches some strays and trends on Twitter for a second.
Oh yeah.
He gets mad too.
He searches for himself.
He does.
Yeah.
He gets it.
So there were six straight punts in this game.
That was a lot of fun.
No that's that was big 10 football.
You had to know that was going to happen in this game.
I mean the Bears are like their offense in the first quarter is is they just want to feel
out their opponent by going three and out as many times as possible.
That's just kind of the plan is like Matt Nagy's like hey here's what we're going to
do guys.
We're going to make sure we do no yards positive yards.
We're going to make sure we look really really bad.
Maybe throw the ball into the ground and maybe like a two yard run up the middle.
Let's do that three consecutive drives and then we will start trying to play call.
And possibly at the same time you're tiring out their offense.
Yeah.
So they're not going to have any gas in the second half.
Also of note Trico and scored a touchdown.
I don't know what he was doing.
I think he was shushing the crowd which I make no sense.
The home crowd.
Yeah.
Like why wouldn't we boo you guys have sucked this year.
But he was shushing the crowd that was cheering for them.
But I think he was shushing being like you guys are haters.
Oh you guys booed us last week.
You booed us at our worst which is exactly what you should do if you're a fan.
So I don't know what.
Maybe I read that wrong.
I think you should respect the office as the players never never boo.
It's very weird.
So the Bears overall I next Sunday night they're playing the Rams in LA.
If they win that game I will be all the way back.
I love this.
I love that you're talking yourself into it.
OK.
So here's where they beat the Rams which they can do of course they can do.
They would be five and five if they beat the Rams.
They have the Giants at home.
That's a win.
They have the Lions in Detroit Thanksgiving Day if it's Jeff Driscoll again.
That's a win.
I like your chance.
They are now going into December seven and five.
Oh you hear that.
Cowboys at home Thursday night the next Thursday night.
That's a win.
That's eight and five.
All they got to do is go two and one against the Packers Chiefs and Vikings.
Easy.
That's ten and six.
Hank.
Hank you see what's happening right now.
We are getting.
I'm so back in a potential suicidal big cat.
Oh yeah.
Coming back.
Oh yeah.
Hold on.
Hold on.
All we need is that next Sunday.
That's that's all we need.
If the Bears lose next Sunday night I will not be hurt because I have not.
That is the door I have to walk through to believe again.
OK.
If they get back to 500 knowing that they have the Giants and Lions on deck I will be
all the way back in on the Bears making it to the playoffs.
Next Sunday is the biggest game in Bears franchise history.
I'm such a such a good friend to you that I'm going to be rooting so hard for the Bears
because I want to see you happy next week.
I appreciate it.
And then I want to see your little cat heart just broken into a thousand pieces.
How you like that.
Three straight TD drives.
Yeah.
Does anyone any other team ever done that in the history of NFL.
Probably not.
Do you think that this is a good thing for Matt Patricia's career like his longevity
that he's done by the way.
You think that.
So.
Oh big D.O.N.E.
But if you have a backup quarterback.
Nope.
You can say.
No.
That's why I lost these games.
I'll tell you why P.F.D. defense.
That defense stinks that when Mr. Biscay and Matt Nagy can put together three consecutive
offensive touchdowns.
Uh huh.
You're done.
So you guys scored what like 40 45 50 20 points 20 we call it we dropped a 20 burger.
OK.
It's a 20.
It's a 20 taco.
Listen.
Baby steps.
But yeah that Patricia is firmly on the hot seat.
I think that I think it might be it for him.
What.
His defense is not good Hank.
He was brought in to be the defensive coach.
I don't know if you know this but he was the defensive coordinator on the Patriots.
So maybe sometimes it takes a little bit longer for those coaches to get the ball rolling
like Bill.
I think he's a much better job than some of these other coaches that haven't been fired
yet.
So it's like if you're like who name names.
Matt Nagy.
Whoa man.
He won the coach of the year last year.
That was last year.
So what have you said.
It's fine.
What have you done for me.
Fucked up.
Wait.
Listen.
I could make one of him.
Did you just.
Dan Quinn.
No.
I don't know.
He's just.
Win.
Win.
Did you just say that.
Three straight wins you just listed.
You say that Matt Patricia is doing a better job than Matt Nagy the coach that he lost
to literally.
Today.
Yes.
And Matt Nagy won coach of the year and won the NFC North.
Again.
I can say things about Matt Nagy.
Yeah.
He's a clown.
He's a pocky Mark.
You progress.
What.
How have they progressed.
Playing pretty good this year.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
Matt Nagy put the other three consecutive touchdowns.
Yeah.
On Matt Patricia.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think no.
I I'm such a Patriots diehard.
You guys hate the people that have been on this show.
It's disrespectful.
I don't like.
Oh yeah.
I don't like it when.
When coaches are disloyal to Bill Belichick.
That's what I don't like.
And the Lions got fucked over by the rest twice.
They should realistically be over 500.
That's true.
I listen.
I was someone.
I was on the hot seat.
I was someone who.
Is a strong word.
I think.
I think he's on the hot seat.
I honestly do.
I think judging from Lions fans that I follow on Twitter.
I have a couple of Lions fans friends that I think the defensive performance is putting
on the hot seat.
I really do.
All right.
Okay.
He won't.
He probably won't because the Fords don't usually fire coaches that early in contracts
because they don't want to pay everyone.
But.
There's going to be some talk.
Who else are you going to get though?
That's the thing.
It's like who's going to replace Matt Patricia.
Steve Belichick.
Possibly an upgrade.
How quickly is that going to start by the way?
Oh it's already started.
It has begun.
The second that he showed them on TV.
I actually.
Rep Ilma.
I'm staying a little woke on that.
Greg Shiano.
Who by the way.
Rutgers.
Now I heard a tasty little rumor.
Rutgers.
I should say Leroy heard a tasty little rumor.
Yeah.
Last week.
And that was.
Remember how Shiano got fired or he quit.
Spent more time with his family.
That whole thing last off season.
Yeah.
So he actually I'm told had a conversation with the Patriots front office whether that's
Belichick or whoever.
They said would you leave if Rutgers offered you do the job.
He said yeah I would leave and Belichick was like well that job is going to become open
this season so why don't you just save us some time and get out of here.
Damn.
He knows.
He knows.
He got rid of him one season too early.
Yeah.
And then he went to Campanelli or whatever his name is wasn't going to be holding that
job very long.
Okay.
How about Danny Trevathans broken arm.
There's something as bad.
There's something that's more painful to watch about a broken arm than a broken leg.
I don't know what it is.
That was bad.
That sucks for him.
Yeah.
That was bad.
Okay.
Well we in replacement of him Nick Krakowski who's going to be a Chicago legend in no
time who kind of is because he already was playing and he had that game against when
Roquan Smith wasn't there but he's a ski and he's fucking white linebacker and he's
going to just dominate in the middle.
Uh huh.
I'm pretty sure that was West Virginia.
That was John Favreau's character's name and Vince Vaughn's name.
Yes.
Yes.
Same neck.
Okay.
Let's go to Chief Titans.
Ryan Tannehill has taken his step forward folks.
Not really but he did have an awesome game winning drive.
He took several steps forward and he took uh he had a couple nice runs.
People forget the narrative about Ryan Tannehill was that he was a wide receiver so he still
needs time to develop as a quarterback.
Yes.
So I think we're starting to see that.
All he needed was a change of scenery.
Yeah.
It was just to get up to Nashville.
Mike Vrable this was a Mike Vrable game where he was counted out.
I don't think Mike Vrable on the sidelines he coaches most of the game with his hands
on his knees like he's getting ready to play defensive snap.
Have you ever said about him?
Yeah.
To run onto the field.
Oh he would love to get in there.
He also did you see his quote after the game about the fans.
What he said.
He said thanks to all the Titan fans who did show up today maybe next time they can bring
a few friends.
I like that.
I like that.
That's some fire.
Well the crowd was filled with Chiefs fans.
It was like all red in the lower bowl today.
So Kansas City traveled below that one.
It's also it's kind of it sucks when you have a city that people want to travel to.
Like Nashville is a city people want to go to.
So it's tough to have a home field advantage when it's like a party destination.
Yeah.
If you think about it what are the best home field advantages in football.
It's probably Lambo field is up there.
Yeah.
Although the Saints kind of goes against that entire theory.
Yeah.
Because everyone wants to go to New Orleans but Vegas will be a good test.
Uh huh.
Vegas will be a good test because people will definitely go to Vegas to see their team.
I mean everyone will go to Vegas to see their team.
I want to say I don't think it's fair that the Chiefs have the two of the exact same person
at wide receiver.
Yes.
Miko Hardman and Robinson their numbers 17 and 13 respectively and they're the same body
type both fast as hell.
They have all the fast players is not fair.
They have every fast guy they kidnapped all the fast guys and they just throw them out
there and okay.
So Andy Reed timeout dude timeout I'm calling the timeout on you right here.
Don't give Andy Reed any ideas.
Timeout the timeout he called with 24 seconds left.
He's got two timeouts.
He needs a field goal.
He called the timeout before the Titans did a two point conversion and then they still
got it.
Mm hmm.
How do you call that timeout?
That's Andy.
That's how you want to get it right.
How how can't take him with you.
I also Patrick Mahomes looks to be okay but that knee definitely changed the end of
the game when he had when they went they went to pass on third and two to ice the game.
He clearly had enough room to run and he didn't and I was like that's a knee like that's that's
a play if 100% healthy Patrick Mahomes he gets that first down by diving for it but
he made the business decision they didn't want to hurt himself which is the correct
decision but that's something to watch just because guys come back and we automatically
assume oh they're good to go and everything's fine but that was the difference in a Patrick
Mahomes game that was there.
You know what they say about knee injuries that it actually affects your head more than
it affects your leg.
Yeah.
So he's thinking about it.
He definitely was thinking about it.
He wasn't as confident except when he was doing a jump pass for a touchdown.
Yeah.
Which is coming back.
This is the the Tebow jump pass play is coming back.
Joe Burrow did it the the the run run like five feet forward then step back and then
throw it.
It was Tebow made it look as ugly as possible.
Maybe that's why it took so long to come back because Tebow made it look so ugly that
they're like that was gross.
It wasn't cool anymore.
But now it's coming back.
I got it's like how Murray's been running it in the Arizona offense.
Well he has to jump just to throw a pass through the center so that's that's one thing all
together.
I'm looking at the scoreboard right here.
How did the Titans score 35 points.
They had Derek Henry just run like crazy and this was a classic game where everyone started
talking about how the Chiefs I think they're I think the Chiefs rank statistically were
like the 11th ranked defense.
So everyone started talking about these these Chiefs are different.
They're sneaky good defense and then Derek Henry just fucking blasted all over them.
The Titans are undefeated when Derek Henry runs for more than a hundred yards more and
I think yeah they're a super undefeated when he runs for over 180 yards and very very undefeated
when he's got over 200 including a 99 yard yeah TD run.
Yeah Derek Henry is that is we forget about him that I would I would rather try to tackle
sick one Barclay than Derek Henry.
I think he's number one on my list of running backs.
I just would not want to see me open.
We should do a study on what Trent Richardson did to harm like the good name of Alabama
running backs because I feel like we forget about Derek Henry.
We kind of forget about Ingram forget him.
You know like Jacobs is obviously a new guy who is going to be here for a long time but
I feel like Trent Richardson fucked it up for all the Alabama running backs for a little
bit.
He's not running backs in general.
That's true.
But Derek Henry especially you kind of just forget like as you list if you listed top
five running backs I want to say he's top five but you just kind of don't even he you
most people wouldn't be like oh yeah and then Derek Henry you know he's pretty damn good.
So he was he was awesome 8.2 yards per carry and that's how they scored.
Yeah that's that's pretty much 35 points just doesn't seem like it should ever fit in with
the Titans.
Yeah they seem like a franchise that's just incapable of breaking the 30 point barrier
but I know they do it from time to time.
And how about how about the block field goal at the end of the game.
I feel like field goals should be easier to time was the offsides.
No I think it was perfectly.
I think it was perfectly time perfectly time and Bucker and I mean the the chiefs basically
had two chances if they hit that field goal they probably win that game because they go
up eight and Ryan Tano I feel like Ryan Tannhill if he sees eight he's not getting that.
That's more than a touchdown.
Right.
Five he's like oh I can do this.
I got this.
We don't even have an extra point.
He's he's seven.
He's like yeah I can tie this game and losing over time.
Absolutely.
I'm sad for the job.
Okay.
So that is.
So the chiefs chiefs are at a weird spot because they're one week you say oh OK the chiefs
are one of the best teams in the NFL.
Shout out by the way Nick Wright who the worst thing to happen to him all week was the fact
that he said the chiefs have lost her last game this season and then they lost the next
game.
Not great.
Nick wrong.
And they're wrong.
But yeah the chiefs like when he said that he said it so convincingly I was like yeah
I actually kind of agree with him because he knows run yet.
He's very good.
He's very persuasive with his arguments.
So when I was listening to it I was like I think he's right.
I think the chiefs had they have lost their last game of the year.
And then they went out and lost like 48 hours later.
But I just can't.
They're dangerous.
Spin zone.
But I don't know.
A spin zone for the chiefs is they've learned how to deal with adversity this year.
That's true.
So last year they won too many games and and they didn't have to figure out how to bounce
back from losing and how to win the close ones.
We're getting to that point of the season where the chiefs losing to the Titans makes
me think the chiefs are not going to do anything real this year.
I don't know.
It's just those are games you should win.
Just in my gut feeling like a vision around let down that type of season.
What do you mean like that's how the season is going to end for them yet.
No I think they'll make the playoffs but then it would have a let down.
Yeah they'll be one of those weird yeah or they'll get you know being a shootout and
losing the first round.
You'd be like oh that was weird.
Like I thought the chiefs were a lot better.
It definitely feels like the top of the AFC doesn't naturally include the chiefs anymore.
Well if I think of the best teams the AFC is the Patriots and it's the Ravens basically
and that's what I'm looking at.
And then chiefs are kind of they're there but they're yeah and the Texans but it's
like Texans and chiefs are right beneath those top and I will say for in the chiefs defense
they have had a ton of injuries this year because you know Patrick Holmes gets hurt
then they lose Eric Fisher's been out.
I think Mitchell Schwartz got hurt yeah by the way the one thing listen I know Jeff
Schwartz nice guy but the spelling of the name with the G every time someone responds
to him so he was like his brother gets hurt and he's like oh fuck and I felt bad for him
and I you know obviously I went and saw it like I saw Jeff's tweaks I follow him and
I like him but then everyone responded was like sorry Jeff but with the G I just read
every single one sorry Geoff.
So yeah that was the only take I had from now on it's just hard when you reply I see
the G G off when you reply to Jeff Schwartz on Twitter just spells name J E F F yeah because
I just it's not right the spelling of his name is not right to him because I read it
as Geoff every time Geoff is that wrong.
No I know I'm the same way Geoff like who to who's your kid with the J yeah it's don't
do that the Toys R Us giraffe I think I've said this before but I used to I knew a Jeff
with a pH yeah you have said that yeah he was an asshole I think we've actually gotten
into Jeff power rankings before yeah Jeff with a pH was a weird dude weird dude you kind of
have to a lot of drugs if your name is Jeff with a pH and you're totally normal that's
almost weirder to me yeah yeah like you've got you you do have your vices but they're
like way way way underneath the surface yes okay let's do let's go down to the Saints the
Saints and the Falcons Dan Quinn has saved his job I think I saw the Arthur blank before
the game said that this is going to be a very important game in how he determines what's
going to happen going forward.
So basically Dan Quinn saved his best game for the most not the Super Bowl it was the
game right before he was going to get fired and he's like I got to win this one boom did
it the guys are playing for him we're going to get that whole thing the guys are playing
found the locker room they found the locker room so shout out Dan Quinn you did it man
you did it and this could be a master class in playing the long game by Sean Peyton like
we talked about on Friday the best thing that the Saints could do is to get their asses
kicked by the Falcons and then have Dan Quinn get an extension right after they have him
not get fired this year would be great for the Saints fans moving into next year I would
actually say if I'm Dan Quinn fire me now fire me after this win you go out on a high
note you're in New Orleans you can go out and get shit canned on Bourbon Street have
a great time wake up tomorrow morning not have to go to work like this would be the
ultimate reward for beating the Saints is you don't want to get you don't want to get
fired after you lose by 20 to the Buccaneers yes because then you just think about that
as your laugh that's that's what everyone remembers about you right right now most people
would remember the Super Bowl about Dan Quinn but they'd also be like he's the guy that
got fired after beating their biggest rival in New Orleans yes so speaking of which by
the way the Browns and the Steelers play each other twice the next two two out of the next
three weeks okay so firing yeah isn't it always the Steelers beat yeah beat the Browns yep
so watch out Freddie Kitchens yeah this is they're the kiss of death yeah watch out to
watch out Freddie Kitchens this is why I was addicted to the Falcons this is why this game
is why they they their defense was good they played full four quarters where it's like you
were still kind of waiting in the third quarter for the Saints to wake up didn't didn't let
it happen I hate the Falcons have done this because now this soul win is going to make
me bet on them for the rest of the year you don't have to know but I will you don't have
because I saw it and I said shut up nope and on top of all that I feel like so the Saints
question I had for you is this just a stinker because every team gets a stinker they get one
stinker a year where it's like oh they didn't have it you know like even the best teams you can
look back Super Bowl teams past where they had one game you can point to it and say yeah that was
weird they didn't have they didn't have it that day is it that or the Saints have real problems
that are kind of like underneath the the surface here I mentioned earlier they've had three games
this year where they haven't scored a touchdown that doesn't feel like a Super Bowl team I think
I'm going to file this under wake-up call I think this is going to be a wake-up call for the Saints
so in the long run it'll be good that they got their asses kicked at home I just I their offensive
line look bad and Drew Brees looked skittish and man I also think Peyton he gets bored sometimes
and he starts like whipping himself up by the weird tricks and he well yeah if you give Sean Peyton
too long to think of something he'll just he'll he'll get real freaky with it and so he actually
let Tayson Hill throw a pass today and so that's how you can tell that that he's had too much time
to gameplay I'm just saying three I was astonished when I saw that three games this year where the
Saints have not scored a touchdown that feels wrong how many of those were with Teddy versus
with Drew the one game in the Rams where where Drew got hurt then they played the game against the
Cowboys where they had four they won the game with four field goals and then today okay I think
that's fine I'm chalking up to aberration okay so you think today was a stinker it's a it's a
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jets uh where do we want to start winners or losers let's start with the winners let's talk
about the jets real quick yeah the winners the winners they are two and seven and sam darnold said
we got a chance at the playoffs that's true and i'm gonna say this pfd this part of the season
right around now early november this is run the table season if you have a player
has to probably be a quarterback maybe like i don't know your pro bowl safety if you have a player
get in front of the media and say we're gonna run the table i'm in erin rogers invented that
he did he invented and the word relax as well right but he but there's something about saying
we're gonna run the table that makes you go look at the schedule and you start looking at it and
you're like oh shit like the jets they actually might run the table and who's to say they can't
make it in the playoffs that's exactly what greeny was saying when he was going through the schedule
the other day okay now i disagree with everything i said yeah so it is run the table season in theory
as long as you have fewer than seven losses right now you can make a case in your most delusional
states you can make a case as a fan of any team that you could run the table make the plans well
here's the next yeah dolphins yes here's the next four tracks for nine and seven here's the next four
games for the jets because this is i when he said that i immediately looked at his schedule because
that's really what they're doing is they're saying just check out a schedule and tell yourself they
can win next four games for the jets at redskins raiders at home at bangles dolphins at home yeah
they could absolutely win all four of those now i think the raiders are better than the jets but
that is a uh west to east game always tough uh so we could be sitting here six and seven jets
going to play uh the ravens on thursday night football that would be incredible in december i
i don't think it's going to happen but it's a possibility but they could they could run the
table he said he said now do you say we're going to run the table or no he said we got a chance at
the play we got a chance and everyone laughed at him and i was like that's not funny he's he's
saying the truth but you know what you you can point back if you're sam donald even if you don't
make the playoffs let's say you finish eight and eight and be like yeah if i didn't get mono this
was our season well that was the other thing i think sam forgot i think he thinks that the
games he didn't play didn't happen so i think in his brain they're like two and two they're pretty
good teams yeah they had an opportunity to put something together right uh yeah they i mean
they could also just as easily go three and third oh i yeah it's most probably they could
reverse run the table they could flip the table that would be nice to go into the money lenders
turn it all over i think i think that they i want to say i'm on board with the jets i'm on board
they're gonna run the table i think they're gonna run the table i've talked myself into it problem is
you have the way to dolphins like you have way too many teams now how many combined wins for the
rest yeah you've like you've crossed up yourself so you have you have the jets running the table
you have the dolphins going nine and seven they play each other yeah then you have the ravens
winning the superbowl and the bills getting into the playoffs the jets still have to play the bills
and the ravens so you've pepe silvered yourself to a point where i don't think you can get out of
it i would disagree i've made so many contradictory statements that i'm bound to be right with one
of them well the problem is you like every team yeah you're just i love football man you're the
john gruden of of teams i'm the drake of the nfl that team could do it except the vikings who are
the best team of that bunch no vikings are trash i think we we're all in agreement that they're a
trash fire uh how about this seguan stat line today you see this seguan 13 attempts one yard
yeah with a long of three yeah because do you see what pat sherma's doing to him well first of all
pat sherma said afterwards that he's banged up why the fuck are you playing him he's banged up
what are your your favorite euphemisms for guys that are seriously injured i like nicked like
he's a little nicked right i like when they just say he the uh the injury is like he's got a leg
or he's shaken up yep like some some guy just smashed three of his own ribs he's always a
little shaken up there on the sidelines right now uh cobwebs is a good one yes he's got cobwebs no he's
got a severe brain injury if you ever want a little rusty they kept saying about as if they
didn't know why if you ever want to see a classic uh old school nfl search tom waddle on youtube game
winning drive and john madden used every single one of those when waddle got like 16 concussions
really one drive he's shaking up with a little cobwebs for everything he was doing smelling salts
it was insane it wasn't a drive it was a game i think he had like 10 catches or something it was
incredible um okay so i just also you can't expect john madden to try to diagnose anybody
no but he used every cliche it was like you know like way back in the you know early 90s late 80s
where it's like this football is just football is getting popular but we still didn't know what the
fuck was going on instead of he's got a leg he's got a brain right now yeah um all right so pat
schermer is a bad coach he should be fired hotter c then patricia yes yes absolutely because pat
schermer his ruining seguan barkley he runs him up the middle that's it pat schermer uh he so we've
talked about he said that he's comfortable in in losing like he this is he's the man for the job
yeah he's the man for the job this is also a sign of coaches that are about to get fired
when they start talking about the future and it seems awkward because you're like you're not going
to be here so he said i'm seeing the things that will help us in the long run and i saw that quote
from him and i was like who what long run like dude you're not this isn't going to happen for much
longer i love when coaches do that when it's clearly like the minute you can feel the awkward
tension when a coach talks about more than just the next game you know that it's probably time then
a reporter followed up and said what things are you talking about and he said uh he said that's not
for here yeah that's not for here so he's not going to get into details he doesn't want to talk about
the things about the long run the long run so he could just be talking about two weeks from now
yeah well i think they have a bi week so that's probably but it just that it dawned on me when
i saw that clip i think everyone can relate to that as a football fan the moment the coach tries to
talk the media and the fans into building something for the future and your gut reaction is what is he
talking about he's not going to be part of this he even have a look on his face like he was almost
hesitant to say the long run he's he's company knows i remember when i when the redskins were
doing so poorly at which could be describing at any point in the last 20 years but jay gruden
did his weekly show and one of the segments was sponsored by a furniture company it was called
like the jay gruden hot seat weekly segment and at first when he was winning some games it was fine
but they kept the name of the segment yeah and so every week he would have to talk about awkward
the jay gruden hot seat moment right and he would like laugh about it at the end but
everybody else was kind of like very puckered butt right yeah like yeah this is getting weird
this is getting all too real so it's all too real for pat germer now i i think he's going to get
fired at the end of this year i just i don't i've been on it on the pat germer doesn't really
know what he's doing and at this point you have daniel jones who seems real although again daniel
jones like that guy loves to give up the ball he only lost one fumble today he didn't throw any picks
but his bad fumble well there's a strip we i actually when we were watching that live we we
actually said out loud like that should be a penalty from how mean jamal adams was just took
took the ball right out of his hand took it with what he took the ball with one hand and he shoved
him with the other it looked like they were doing a choreographed handshake that they knew was
happening before that's how smooth the transaction was football is a violent violent game but what
jamal adams did to daniel jones was straight up mean and they should have flagged it and been like
nope can't do that that was too mean and you know what the worst part about it is daniel jones had
to go right back on the field after that and look at that man in his eyes lined up across from me
like yeah that sucked for me please don't do that again sir so you think pat shirmers in trouble
i think pat shirmer has a face that just screams six and ten yeah he's got a six and ten face nothing
will over change that in my book but you have this moment where you're if you're the giant you're
like okay daniel jones probably is the guy do we want pat shirmer to be no his coach no no no no
no yeah absolutely right exactly this is this is the perfect time to get rid of him like i feel
like this happens a lot in the NFL where you you suck as a head coach you get a high draft pick
you take a quarterback and then you still suck somehow as a head coach and they're like oh yeah
maybe he just is a bad coach and they fire you after you're like john fox yeah mr bisky right
that sort of situation gets somebody else and that's going to fix everything right like they
didn't chicago right exactly mm-hmm matinee i'm back on matinee side just because hank went at him
yeah literally that's all it took i was i was as down as anyone could ever be on matinee
and then hank said one bad thing i was like fuck you that's my coach it it just never come on the
show that's true it's true it just occurred to me that i'm out off on him we're talking about
we're talking about the jets making the playoffs maybe if they run the table they're tied with
dolphins that's fine pft actually the dolphins are ahead of them pft in last place they are but
that's fine sam donald said we can we we we can uh make the playoffs i we can still be in the
playoffs when you start talking about controlling your own destiny and running tables and there's
it i think it's all just about the fact that there's a finite like number of games left and you
you can visualize okay because when you do the win-loss thing at the beginning of the season you
don't know you like we don't know what that team's gonna be when we play them in november now you
know all the teams so you can actually look at it and be like win win win win win win okay yeah the
jets are nine seven yeah it could happen if they run the table for sure yeah what's what's that
lost number turns into an eight in the column that's like a that's a red alarm that goes off
season done yes season is done um okay cardinals bucks uh oh seekie question promo code take
ten dollars off seekie pft yes when was the last time the Tampa Bay bucks won a home game
it was week 13 of last year yes you knew that fact i didn't know that you knew that my brains
full they have been on the road for so long that was a seekie question promo code take
they've been on the road for so long i think this is their first home game in Tampa Bay since week
three yep and uh yeah it's crazy they won a game at home and really it was one of those games that
like kyler murray was a lot better than james winston kyler murray's for real but the bucks just
did enough freaky things to win the game at the end well so kyler did throw that interception at the
end that was bad that was that was a bad pick but he was awesome otherwise yeah james is on pace for
24 interceptions this year his son was really bright it was very bright today james winston was was
out in full force larry Fitzgerald's ass looked huge in those red pants did you see that like
two clown noses stuffed down the shorts it was it was a bad game for james it was a good game for
kyler but james sucked less than kyler in the last three minutes right pretty much that james
are actually good on that last drive and cliff king's very coached a good game and then on the last
drive lost his mind and i think they ran like a draw to start in like a really small pass and
then i was like hey you guys kind of need to get going here and it just never happened and kyler
i like kyler i think kyler's gonna be a good quarterback going forward he's shown enough
but he he still hasn't realized that like if you run straight backwards i don't know one out of four
times that's gonna end up in like a 25 yard sack they're fast people he does that he does that thing
where he just thinks he can keep running backwards forever and then just throw it 80 yards down the
field it's the old madden play yeah and it worked all the time but if you played with michael vick
in like 2006 madden you could do that every single play and win yes and it was not an issue can i ask
a question about both these teams because neither of these teams are going to the playoffs but if
they run the table if they run the table but would you say both teams are frisky and if you if yes
which team is friskier because i would contend that both are frisky they could win anywhere
or they could lose to everyone i think i think the bucks are friskier oh i think the cardinals
are frisky i think they're i think the bucks are a little bit frisky they out friskyed them today
and when when james started running with the ball a couple times today did you see
obviously we've covered uh almost to the point of exhaustion how hilarious james is when he runs
with the ball yep but you're obligated as an announcer to say now james isn't the fastest
quarterback in the world oh man when he runs with the ball because he's not he's actually very
slow he runs like with a piano on his back yes but but you get kind of impressed when you see him
running and not getting dizzy and falling down and tripping in the open field right he was able
to make it 12 yards that's pretty impressive it's the it's this it's the reverse sneaky athletic for
a white guy yes like everyone you have to remind him hey not not a running quarterback james actually
not fast yeah brian left which on the sidelines also not fast people forget brian left which
wasn't fast yes not fast um okay next up we have dolphins cults the dolphins have two wins they have
won two games in a row they are hot they're hot hot hot your dolphin winning streak my my dolphins
you don't even have to say anything nice about the dolphins you just can state a fact they've won
two games in a row they actually the only thing you could say about the dolphins is they stink
at tanking yeah they have a path to seven and nine or nine and seven either one i
ryan fits patrick is fun to watch but he wasn't even good wasn't good no it was a dolphin's defense
but it's fun to watch somehow ryan fits patrick finds himself in a situation in every single game
where he's in the open field and he gets a chance to run directly at that team's smallest defensive
back and run them over yes and you always think when ryan fits patrick lowers his shoulder he's
going to get his ass blown up because he's he's older he's not fast he's not particularly big
but he always seems to find the 179 pound quarterback and just level the shit out of him
run through him any any uh yeah he loves contact and he wasn't very good it was a dolphin's defense
today i think this was the end of brian hoyer because this is the worst don't say something
so so utterly destroying to my psyche this is the worst when you're back up quarterback
at the end of your backup quarterbacking days you can get a couple extra years if you just
don't have to play but if you have to play and play more than like a quarter like brian hoyer is
everyone sees it and they're like oh yeah his arm is shot and is he can't make decisions anymore
and this is bad because brian hoyer lost them this game so i think that's that's about it like swag
kelly are we thinking about swag all right so here's the other why not why not is right
why not is right here's my other hot take from this game frank right cannot be in any coach of the
year conversations for the rest of the season removed removed if you lose the dolphins you
get removed so much so i think brian floris should be mentioned before frank right in coach of the
year conversations for winning with the tanking team yes bro if you he does you are the class right
if you're the cults and i know andrew luck and you had to do the change then jacoby versett gets
hurt i know all of this if you are competing for the playoffs and you have a home game against the
team that is actively trying to lose that has traded their best players and you lose that game
you are no longer in the running for coach of the year and you have passed the torch across the field
to the man who somehow beats you while trying to lose okay i'm down for that i think that's fair i
i'm in yeah a lot of times that coach of the year award is kind of like a pity award given to somebody
so much adversity in all that that does that does the most with like a really shitty hand that
why not brian floris why not brian floris he's had it worse than anyone he was given a team
and told by the owner we're going to lose and he somehow has them still playing for them
like that that right there she says that he's one of the he maybe not the best coach in the league
but he's a good coach because he's got his guys playing for him when they all wanted to be like
fuck this i'm out yeah he had a playlist that alienated half of his locker room earlier this year
and then he fixed it by trading and then he fixed it by trading him getting rid of their best safety
to trade him up to he got rid of the wrong Fitzpatrick yep they made him get rid of his
the good Fitzpatrick correct team and he's still reeling off a two-game winning streak so and and
we were talking about this earlier but vinnett terry missed another was an extra point today
it's bad it's bad we're we're looking at and seeing like is this the end for him we're not sure
that i mentioned to hank the idea he gets cut would you want the patriots to sign adam vinnett terry
and hank was like i think i would hell yeah here's the question so i adam vint terry is a hallfamer
like all time you know like so many big kicks if his name was anything else there's no way he
would still be on the cult well you can't really cut adam vinnett terry right that's that point
you're he's getting wait for him to self select and be like i'm gonna do it to myself you remember
in the 19 or the 2002 world cup when jeff agus was on the us national team and he was like of course
he had been their captain for like 15 years but he sucked ass yeah and then he very gallantly
in a game faked a calf injury and looked up at the stands and was like somebody threw something
at me and hit me in my leg which didn't happen right took himself out that's what vinnett terry
just needs to be like i'm gonna agus myself i'm gonna agus myself i'm out by the way um not to
get sidetracked but shout out the sounders they've won two mls cups in the last four years yeah i mean
we're gonna i even know that game we're gonna get there oh sorry how dare you how dare you schedule
on an nfl sunday sunday so i think it was a tweet i saw a tweet like the sounders have won
another mls cup like what what today are the sound are the sounders of dynasty they won it today
put that game on a friday at noon and we'll watch and it's also i'm sick of super teams in the ml
yes like you know what's gonna happen every year hey but alright so back to the cults in vinnett terry
like why wouldn't you cut him if he's losing your games and you're trying to get to the playoffs
any other guy and he's gone. A kicker misses two kicks in a game and it's we got guys in
the facility practicing on Monday morning. The Patriots might be so deep inside the Colts heads
that the Colts have my theory that Vinicius is missing on purpose so that he can join the Patriots
for a playoff run and the Colts and the Patriots already fucked over the Colts with McDaniels.
So they don't want to they don't want to put him out there because they think that the Patriots
are going to snap him up. I should back up a little because he did have a hot streak in between
during this season. Like he had he sucked the beginning member who's about to retire. Then
he was hot for a while. He had a game winner. But it feels like and this game wasn't decided by
his missed extra point. It looked like it could have been it for a moment there. It just feels
like a situation where the Colts are playing with fire because they will be in a spot where
they need a win and a big kick and it might not happen. So I don't know. I wouldn't want to play
with that fire. I mean as someone I knew last year Cody Park it was that fire. Right. So you're
playing with it all year and you're like oh well let's hope it doesn't. Let's hope this fire that's
been slowly burning all season. It fixes itself. It just puts itself out. Yeah. She's going to fix
itself. That will happen. I think that they'll probably have a conversation with them tomorrow
and be OK. Can you please just just do it. Just walk away. Right. Just in it all again. He didn't
cost them the game. I'm just saying this is going to be something if you're I would imagine if you
talked to every single Colts fan they would have the same exact answer. They'd be like no we can't
cut out of Vinitary. He's a legend. And then if you gave him three beers they'd be like yeah we're
pretty nervous about this. Like we get in a big situation. I do not have I don't have faith that
he's going to hit it. And then what happens when you have a kicker that you don't trust that your
coach doesn't trust. It affects everything that your coach does. Yeah. And he gets weird with it.
He overthink the point. Some of the play calling gets fucked up. Maybe maybe you take a knee instead
of running the ball. Well that actually you put it at the wrong hashtag. That was not our
hash mark. That wasn't no faith in the kicker. That was no faith in the offense. That was referred
is actually like a combination. No. If he had no faith in the kicker he would have kept on running
the ball. That's true. So he actually was like we're so we're good. We're so money even though
Eddie Pinheiro misses every fucking extra point now too. You want to hear about that though.
If they hadn't taken that knee and they had they kicked from like a yard or two closer it would
have doinked it. That would have been worse. Well if you know it's on a doink as opposed to just
a straight up. I'm in a good place this Sunday. We don't want to bring this up. Okay. There's
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Panthers Packers snow globe game the best. The snow in the second half was so awesome.
Big ass flakes big flurries. It was great. What's your biggest takeaway from this game
because I'm going to say something that's going to get some people who listen to the show upset
but it's honest but I'd like to hear what you have to say first. The snow looks cooler from field
level when they're shooting and you can see like a little bit of the night sky above and the snow
falling through that then it does from the overhead camera. Okay. That was my biggest takeaway.
The Packers defense stinks. My other that defense is fraud city. I don't think it's a fraud city
situation. You have 401 yards and only 16 points so good job being Ben don't break but I know and
again this is going back to like this is me doing some studies. I have friends that are Packers fans.
Yeah that's crazy but I do. They have said to me they know deep down that this is pretty much a
situation that Aaron Rodgers has to be superhuman to win a big game in January because of defense.
They do not trust it but that's what he likes to do. I know likes to have everybody that defense.
He likes to be the only one that's good on his team swish cheese. I'll say this. I almost went
fucking 90 yards on them. Just I mean he basically went all the way there in the snow with small
little tiny little hands. I'm just saying he did. Yeah. Matt LaFleur look cold and that's going to
be a problem. OK that is a good point. It does get cold up there and he's coached in warm weather
cities. He looked like he wasn't loving the snow. No. And if you're a Green Bay coach I think he needs
to add on an extra like 50 to 70 pounds. He'll learn while he's up there that you have to build
in some natural insulation. Yes for to get that like Mike Tomlin Mike McCarthy type barrel chested
big ass type look. He's not a guy that can fill out a winter coat right now. No. And he looked
like he was miserable not having a great time. He's boned. He was bundled up like like Ralphie from
Chris Christmas story. Yes. Which is why he couldn't call the timeouts correctly probably. Yes. It was
the defense is not good. I agree. I don't think they're frauds. No they're defense is frauds. I'm
not saying they're frauds. You toss around the fraud too far too much. OK. Well their team apologize
to no fraud like I apologize. No. Listen their team is not a fraud because Aaron Rogers is still
on their team and he's still one of the best quarterbacks of the NFL. So they will be in every
single game but they like they give up yards like nobody's business and I don't I don't think that
team's getting a big stop when they need it at the end of you know in a big important game.
You're probably right on that. Did you hear what Ron Rivera said about analytics. No when they
talked to him. So Ron Rivera did the smart thing and he went for two when they were down. Yep because
of math they were down 14. Hank doesn't still don't understand. No we explain it. I think Hank
gets it. You get it. It's two point conversion. OK. Yeah. Yeah. And he was asked about that. He said
if analytics were perfect this whole league would be eight and eight. Yeah. So Ron understands
statistics. That's true. That's a good point by Ron. The Panthers I don't know what to make
of them either because I feel like that was this was their big opportunity today because the Saints
lost a game. No one saw them losing. And I don't know. It's going to be we can actually after this
let's let's go to the Rams Steelers. But after that let's let's take a big look at the playoff
picture in both divisions. Big picture. Yeah. We'll do big picture because the AFC. So Rams
Steelers the AFC playoff picture is a mess. Rams Steelers Steelers wins 17 12. Their defense is
awesome. I still don't believe in Mason Rudolph but the Pittsburgh defense like Minka Fitzpatrick.
That's the rare win win trade where the Dolphins get another pick in a tanking year and the Steelers
they don't get a player in the draft this year that's going to be as good as Minka Fitzpatrick
is for them right now. Correct. Minka Fitzpatrick is awesome. He's awesome and their defense is
really really good. He somehow finds himself in situations where he gets the ball and he scores
on defense. Yeah. And knows for the end zone. That's right. At some point you know you can
chalk some of it up to luck. But if he's always in the right place at the right time. Agreed.
Then you're just you just know where to hang out. Agreed. You know where all the hot spots are.
I don't understand what happened to Cooper Cup. I don't understand what actually I mean Joe Hayden
did a pretty good job on him. But I don't understand the fake punt that wasn't a fake punt.
Was it such a is Sean McVeigh such a genius that the new fake punt is not even faking the punt
part. But just putting your kicker out there to throw. Well he went back to back to back
plays with three different quarterbacks I think that is a golf board which which I and
Hacker. We love Pittsburgh. I guarantee you when the Steelers fans saw Bortles come in
they got a shiver down their spine because he owns that he does ever since 2017 right.
When he beat them three times or twice in a season twice twice in Pittsburgh twice in Pittsburgh
he owns Heinz Field. Yeah it was it was a weird fake punt. It wasn't particularly well designed
fake punt but he went into shotgun formation dropped back like a normal quarterback would
and then threw a crossing route that I think was even short of the sticks. It was so weird.
Sean McVeigh Sean McVeigh got his genius card taken away by Colin Coward. Yes. He said is it
time that we discuss who taking away his genius card. Well I think the Rams have proven that like
any offense will not look like the like a genius offense if you don't have an offensive line.
That's pretty much what comes down to like it. All right. Well now we can't we can't get our
quarterback time. Oh yeah we don't look like the geniuses we did last year. I like that he got his
genius card taken away. The Rams are just I don't know what to make of them. I just know that they
got issues and they the Steelers are we are you ready to believe a little bit in the Steelers.
I've been throwing it around a lot a little and again it always goes back to Mason Rudolph. He
looks like a fat. I know I agree. Yeah. Mason Rudolph. I don't trust him. The Steelers defense I
trust and I think that they will win these games. This is like they're going back old school like
because obviously Ben made it you know an offensive team leaving on Bell and Tony O'Brien all that
stuff. They're going old school Steelers like 10 years ago 15 years ago where it's we're going to win
the game with defense and just grind it out. Mason Rudolph is a modern day Tommy Maddox.
He's a rookie year Ben. Yeah. Neil O'Donnell is what I think of whatever. Big Ben had a 16 QB rating
in the in the Super Bowl he won against Seahawks. Yeah. When the refs gave him the refs actually won
that Super Bowl when Antoine Randall threw a touchdown. The only passing touchdown. All right.
Big Ben is also ballooning up. Yeah he is getting well it's it's put in the installation. Yeah you
got to it's it's cultivating mass season right. That's right. He wants to be a coach so bad. Yeah.
He's got the headset on. I never expected that Big Ben would be a guy that would want to get into
coaching afterwards because he's hated every single coach that he's had. Yes. But I feel like
that's the one way for him to continue his passion of butting heads with an offensive coordinator
even after he gets out of the game. Yes. He can then become a head coach and still get into fights
with the play callers on the side. Hire Todd Haley just to fire just to fire just to fire like
every other week. But yeah he's my guess he's conservatively put on 20 pounds since he's been
out with an injury this year. Yeah. You could make the argument that he is learning from Cam Newton
who has struggled to rebound from injuries after becoming a vegan. So Big Ben is going the exact
opposite and just consuming only animal products. Yes. Just heavy fats cheeses a moderate amount
of cream just like just loading up on the junk shit. The Steelers if the Steelers went on Thursday
night in Cleveland which is going to be a true loser loser leaves town game which I'm very excited
for if the Steelers beat the Browns in Cleveland on Thursday night they're going to go 11 and 5.
Oh shit. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know about all that. They have since Cleveland Arizona Buffalo
Jets. We're in week 17 at Baltimore who might not be playing for anything but you forgot the
Jets are going to be in the middle of their table. I don't I do not think the Jets will fully run the
table they will get to that week 16 and then they will that'll be the end of it. That'll be the stake
in the heart. Yeah. But no they I'm just saying this is what I've the ramp beating the Rams is a
big step for the Steelers. I think they're going to sneak in. So there's a segue to the AFC picture.
I think the Steelers are going to sneak in. I really do. I think the Steelers are going to
sneak in and I'm going to tell you who the other team I'm going to have. You say Buffalo. I think
I feel like he's going to come down to Buffalo and Raiders and I don't you're not ready to
count Chucky out yet. No I'm not ready to count Chucky out. I'm not ready to count Chucky out but
the AFC wildcard picture is going to be a mess. A mess. Right now the Dolphins are in the hunt.
They're on the in the hunt graphic. Everyone everyone in the AFC South is in the hunt.
Pretty much everyone in the AFC West is in the hunt. Everyone except for the Bengals and then
the Steelers and the Bills. Yeah. So like all those teams are in the hunt in the AFC. It's going
to be a mess. Yes it is. Yeah. I still think the Bills are going to make it. I don't think that's
going to be a problem. I think they'll be fine. Bills be everything's fine. I'm fine. Everything's
fine. You're fine. Buffalo is fine. Okay. All right. I mean I tend to agree with you. I just
there's going to be a couple teams here that are going to look interesting and then the NFC.
The NFC is a lot more difficult. It's going to be a lot more difficult to make the playoffs I feel
like because the Vikings and the Seahawks are are both seven and three seven and two respectively
and they're they would be the wildcards if the season ended today. That's a pretty good record.
I could also see the Cowboys making it. I could see the Cowboys and making it winning the East
Cowboys and the Eagles both making it out of the East. Yeah. It could happen. This is like last
year when everyone rode off the NFC East and they had two teams. Okay. But yeah we are it's
officially that time of season. NFC East is such a top heavy division like it's well it's a tale of
two cities like within side that division. Yes. You've got the Eagles and the Cowboys which could
you could make a case for either one of them winning the division and then you've just got
absolute shit. Absolutely. It's two tone Malone. Absolutely. It's the two tone Malone division.
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then we're going to wrap up with some college football. Hank, where are you going? I was just
going to say I want to get an Indochino custom suit that's custom made to like 2003 NBA draft
pick style. There's like a bad guy. Hank actually has that. A Tracy McGrady. He wore that a couple
weeks ago. Kirk Heinrich. That's rude. Don't give me that look. I told you it looked nice.
Yeah, but apparently you were lying to my face. No, I was, no. I was back in the week is this league.
Yes. Dion Waiters did a move that I pulled not too long ago when he got on a plane. He took an
edible and then he apparently had a panic attack on the plane. Yeah. So they had to call the ambulance
to the show when he landed. He ended up getting suspended for 10 games and then for whatever reason
decided to tell people that it was a teammate who gave him the edible, but he's not going to tell
which teammate. So it's got a lot of people speculating which teammate it was. I gave him the
edible, why he took such a strong edible. None. I think it was the clinic. Tell your hero. Kelly
Elinick. That's gotta be the obvious choice. He's got probably homemade edible shit. He's Canadian.
But yeah, this league is back. I've been there, Dion. It's not a good place to be.
Edibles are a dangerous thing. I've never really heard someone that's taken an edible. I mean,
like this was great. Most of the time it's like I took an edible and I was like lying in my bed
thinking I was going to have a heart attack and die. Yeah, you take too much. And now it's what
happened to Dion. Did he forget to add in? I love you guys at the end of his podcast too.
Probably. I mean, he got suspended. He's going to lose like three million dollars. So it's probably
a little worse. There is nothing worse than having like that one too many. And it was your own fault
for giving me an edible. Yeah. Like I said, it was like the same thing except my teammate
did it to me, but we talked about it. Yeah. But he publicly called me out on it.
Put that moment where you're like, uh-oh, point in no return. Can't do anything for the next four
hours. Like I'm going to take a shower. Nope. That doesn't fix it. Oh, I'm going to take a nap. Nope.
Nope. I'm going to die. I'm going to die. Still going to die. Nope. I'm going to just have a panic
attack and then be of the laughing stock of the NBA because I can't handle my weed. And you might
think that taking an edible on a plane is a good move. I think that's actually the worst place
to take an edible. Oh, terrible move. Because you think I'm going to take this and then talk
out for a few hours and be fine. Uh-uh. What happens is you end up in a new airport and you
don't know how to find the taxi line. Altitude. And you just wander around and you're high as
shit. And then the worst part about when you're too, when you're, uh, when you have too many
edibles is you just look around and you're like, everyone knows I'm high right now. Right. And,
and you're like, it heightens your sentence senses in a weird way. So you, the altitude feels
worse. The, the shitty like diarrhea air that gets recirculated is disgusting. And you think
it's like, Oh, I'll take an edible and fall asleep, but it's like a disease. No, no, no,
you get paranoid. You're way too high to fall asleep. Now that's the worst. So shout out to
the on waiters. We know what you're going through, bro, even though that is pretty embarrassing.
Sounds like you were at the Dodgers game. Yes, it was. Yes. That was really bad. Sometimes we got
caught in that, in that line where PFT and I basically just ordered like $200 worth of stuff.
And then we got done with it. We're like, Whoa, maybe we are high. We got up to the counter
and we were planning on getting just like a bottle of water and then just kept on a pretzel.
And we're like, Oh yeah, ice cream. Yeah. We should get some ice. Oh, the little helmets.
Yeah. The helmets. Yeah. So that sucks for John waiters because everyone now is going to be like,
Hey, you are the dude in like high school who's like, I think I'm having a heart attack because
you smoke too much and then ruined it for everyone and everyone's parents got called and were like,
they smoke weed. So good job. The on waiters fucking narc. Why did you have to even say
that you took an edible? Why couldn't you? Wasn't the first report that you had a seizure?
Yes. Yes. Which that was so ridiculous because like that's that's basically a meme like the
my son overdosed on marijuana. Yeah, I overdosed. I had a seizure because I took I ate two gummies
instead of one. Yeah. You should just switch to indica. We'll mail you out. There you go.
Where that's a TV. So that's the shit you just do like Netflix and chill. By the way,
I've got more brownies if Hank wants some. I made a fresh batch and then the Monday,
Wednesday or Friday. We'll do one show in the next month where Hank will be high and we won't
tell you which one it is and you have to guess. We should actually do a roulette show where we
make brownies and then one of us has the when we eat one of us has the brownies that are bad
are good depending on how you look at it. We should just do another part of my talk. Yeah,
we should. It's part of my bake part of my either way. I mean one is rhymes with the yeah. Yeah.
But the other has the same letters and letters. Part of my smoke week. Yeah. Part of my talk
looks better. Yeah, but part of my big sounds. Well, what are we doing right now? Are we high?
Let us know. Oh, my who's back of the week is I feel I do feel high at the end when the American
Ninja Warrior comes on and you know it's past one o'clock. I do start feeling high on some
we get delirious. Yeah. My who's back of the week is James Dean. The cool guy or the porn star.
The cool guy. Okay. Who may have who is also the porn star. Oh, no. Is James Dean not cool? No,
the dead actor is having a huge hog or the actor that is working. Learn some fucking
culture. I'm talking about the guy who was cool and like the 50. Yeah, I know that's who's back.
Not the not the porn star. I was saying you can't say that James Dean the porn star is not also
a cool. I think he's problematic. Is he? If so, just maybe not big piece. Yeah, that is problematic.
It's for everyone. He shames me. I can't watch porn with guys that have huge James Dean porn
if they're the male lead. It's just like I can't put myself in the skin. All right,
so which one's back? Call that talking. James Dean. Which one? The old one. Got it. So the dead
one. Why? Dead James Dean is back because yeah, James Dean the other one raping sexual misconduct.
Oh, okay. Disavow. Disavow. The old James Dean is back because they are reanimating him,
not his body, but they're using like footage of him and putting him into a movie about Vietnam.
So he's going to be playing the part of a soldier in a war that he wasn't even alive to see,
even though he's been dead for like 50 years. That's kind of cool. So they're bringing him back,
but it's a slippery slope. Why? Like 40 years from now that we're going to have Tom Hanks
reanimated to play Jeffrey Epstein or something weird like that. If you can't you can't control
what people in the future are going to be doing with your face and your body for deep fakes.
Yeah, but what do you care? You're dead. But you don't want to play a bad guy, do you? You're dead.
I don't think you care. You're dead. Just overall, you'd be fine playing whoever.
I think when you're dead, you're dead. Okay. I think you can't ask me if I'd be fine with it
because if he dead. Okay. My other who's back to the week is Pluto because the NASA's chief
administrator said that Pluto is a planet again. Oh, nice. So Pluto's back big time. That was
really chopping my ass for a big comeback story. Huge, huge. I like how planets have a relegation
system like the EPL like Pluto went from being the ninth planet to just like basically an asteroid.
It got neg so hard. Now it's back. Now it's back. Now it's a full on planet again. All right,
my who's back pinstripes. Shout out, Liam, for giving me this one. But I actually saw this last
night and see I didn't see the pinstripes. I saw the Padres new uniforms, Padres,
Brown is back, which was a very weird hashtag to fall upon on a Saturday night. I was like,
Brown is back. What's going on? So I clicked on it. These Padres uniforms are fucking awesome.
I'm looking they're going back. They went they went blue for the last 25 years.
They're back to like the Tony Gwyn Brown and yellow and they are sexy, real sexy.
I'm looking them up right now. They look very sweet. Yeah. So and they have pinstripes. So
we will start keeping out Padre pinstripes. So you've earned your pinstripes by just
picking the Padres and having everyone forget that you make $300 million and who cares? So it's
who else do we give out pinstripes for now? It's Fernando Tatis Jr. You get pinstripes.
It's the Mets, the Phillies, the Diamondbacks, Cubs, Marlins, and Padres. Done. Okay. I just
have to we have to make it rockies. Rockies. Rockies. You forgot the Rockies. Shit. Okay.
Let's do football guy of the week. So this week we have first up, Frank Martin, who is not a
football coach, but he said himself, he's a football guy. Yeah. So this is now the new trend.
Jim Boiland, Frank Martin, we have football coaches, the coach. What's what's our state?
Yeah, who ate the matchbook. The this new trend of basketball coaches being football guys. I like it.
Yeah. Frank Martin is kind of like a shanahan from another dimension. Yes. He's got that,
like the, the sweatiness, the face that's always kind of in a scowl all the time.
And he's a guy that I'm shocked that Frank Martin hasn't gotten on a tie rating against cell
phones yet this year. Yeah. He's good for one of those every seven to eight months. Although he's
a little knowing Frank Martin, he's a little bit better than that because he's a little bit better
of a recruiter than to go after cell phones. Yeah. He's like more go after guys sitting out
bowl games. Okay. So he's a little, you know, like cell phones is the bottom level of going after
millennials. You got to, you got to the next level up is questioning their toughness and like
their will to be with the team getting into Dan Dockett's church. Yeah. Right. Yeah. I
do want to see Frank Martin at some point coach in the Aloha classic out in Hawaii. Yes. And see
him in a Hawaiian shirt and a lay. Yes. I don't think I could imagine something that goes against
what I think of more than that. It would be so good. All right. Next up, we have coach O for
letting it all out after one of the biggest wins in his career. He cried a little bit, but it was
the best cry. He also had the famous now famous roll tide. What fuck you post game press comments
we're going to get to more on that game in a minute. I don't think that was coach O. It could
have been anybody. Yeah. I don't want to get him in trouble. We don't, we didn't see who said that
could have been his voice. Also, coach O doesn't cry. I just, I don't, I think his eyes sweat.
He was just what he was, he was, he looked ripped. Yeah, ripped. Dude, he's been, he's been
lifting weights. Fuck you. Fuck you, Gary Danielson, who's like, that's the most coach O's ever ran in
his life. He runs every day with the sun. He's friends with the sun. Tiger. Luke Keekley for
not wearing sleeves in a game since freshman year in high school, no matter the weather.
I don't think that's a football guy moved to publicly declare that because it, because it says
that he remembers that he used to wear sleeves and he made a conscious decision to say, Hey,
I'm going to try to act like I'm not cold. Yeah. A real football guy just doesn't feel cold. It's
true. And then the random Raider fan for skipping his court date so he could attend Thursday night
football. I love that guy because any other stadium and it's like that guy's not, he's just
fucking around Raider fan. You're like, no, he skipped his court date. Absolutely. Yeah. I would
like to have that guy win, but I don't want to blow his spot. It more is the thing. Yeah, that's
true. Good point. Okay. Before we get the judge was probably at the game anyway. Yeah, he definitely
skipped it too. He's like, I also was skipping it before we get to a little college football
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All right. Let's wrap up. We got some college football talk. We got a Monday reading and then
we'll send you on your way. We have Jerry Rice coming up on Wednesday. Awesome interview with
him. He came in person. It was pretty cool to talk to the goat. College football, LSU, Alabama,
Roll Tide. What? Fuck you. Fuck you. Oh, was that an awesome game? Joe Burrow, Heisman Moment.
When he got his pants pulled down a couple of weeks ago. When he got his pants pulled down a
couple of weeks ago, the running back for the LSU Tigers was incredible. His knee was a layer.
Yep. He was incredible. He's a short king. And guess what? Saban. I mean, for all the people
who hated on Coach O, how could Coach O beat Saban? Well, he just went in Tuscaloosa and he
fucking kicked your ass. And it was an ass beating. It ended up being a one touchdown game, but it was
such an awesome game. Such an ass kicking. And it was such an awesome game going back and forth.
I mean, you knew that Bama wasn't going to give up. You knew they were going to come back in
that second half. Do you think that deep down there are some LSU fans who are, you know, they're
glad that they won that secretly miss nine to six. Just like, you know what?
This is great. I'm glad we won, but it ain't real football. Yeah. I don't know. That was, I mean,
LSU's just got so much swag and it's just so good. I think Saban. I this is the crazy thing
about Nick Saban. I think I saw an article today in his entire career at Alabama. I think he's been
there 12 years, 2007. There was someone wrote an article that was like ranking the most memorable
of Nick Saban's 24 losses in Alabama. It's been there for 12 years. You can actually sit down
and like five of them or six of them came in year one. Uh-huh. It's ridiculous. Yes. It is. It
feels like an event when Alabama loses credit to Nick Saban for getting blown out and embarrassed
and not using his kickers as a lead blocker. So yeah, progress is a step forward for the
blown out. But did they do enough? It was an ass kick. You're on. It was actually a question
because this is going to be the question that's going to get discussed. Did they do enough to
possibly get in as a one loss team? Because this was always the narrative that the loser of this
game not having to go to the SEC championship may be in a better spot going forward because
they will be the second team in. I don't think that's going to happen this year. As long as
Oregon or Oklahoma, I think Oklahoma will probably catch another loss, but if Oregon
doesn't catch another loss, I think they will probably end up putting in Oregon over if they
win their conference tourney against Utah over a one loss nonconference tourney or conference
championship game Alabama. Alabama could they had two options once they started to get beat pretty
badly to keep themselves in the conversation. One was to narrow the deficit. The second was to
have Tua taken off the field in like a stretcher and really overplayed the injury. And so they
could just pin it on like two is not healthy. That bubble he made was so funny. It was pretty
good. Yeah, it was great. It was wonderful to watch. It was a great game. So they could they
could either they could have had an argument if they said Tua is not ready to play. He's at like
50%. So this wasn't really Alabama. This was Alabama, you know, with a with a quarterback
that probably shouldn't be out there. So I think Alabama still gets in. I think they would get in
over Oregon. Yeah, because dude, the committee loves SEC teams. Yeah, I know, but it's not 10.
It hasn't been in there forever. And I just think the way they got beat at home, it was only a six
point game. But like, like we were saying, like it was, unless you kind of put it on them, I mean
that that Alabama's wide receivers are so insane. I was used wide receivers are so insane. But Judy
and and Waddle are like, it's it's that that punt return where he got fucking where Waddle got
tackled with his face mask and still ran it back. Just electric play after electric play. Awesome
college football game. And loved it. One of the touchdowns for Alabama was because the defensive
back from LSU was looking over at the sidelines. Yes. So that's cheating. So that's cheating.
They should have snapped the ball down. The defense wasn't ready. But Joe Burrell has got
that moxie. He's got that late, like fourth quarter moxie when you knew, because you knew
there was that moment where it was like, Alabama's got all the momentum. This is probably going to
be bad. And Joe Burrell was like, no, let's go on a drive here and we'll score again. And
there's something about, and I know we're picking on Alabama, but you should, Alabama fans,
you've had it too good for two. Well, they can't get mad because guess what? The reason why we're
picking on you, we just said it like an Alabama loss is an event. It really is. That's how rare
they are. And Alabama home loss when they show all the fans and they're all wearing the hounds
tooth and they look, you know, ridiculous being sad because you just don't even visualize them as
sad because they always win. It's, it is awesome. It's like their world crumbling around them.
Yeah. It's like everything I've known is alive. Nick doesn't lose these games. Oh, I like that
you went Nick. Nick doesn't lose. Miss Terry is probably, Miss Terry made Nick sleep outside
on. No, Miss Terry was like, maybe, maybe he'll, maybe he'll retire soon. I was one more closer.
Be careful what you wish for, Miss Terry. Like having Nick away from football just around the
household. A lot of cream pies. And I'm not talking, I'm talking about the oatmeal. Yeah.
Cream pies. Not the James Dean ones. Yeah, right. Exactly. Jimmy Dean ones. The Jimmy
Dean. Cream pie, the actor from the 1950s. Yeah. Okay. That's cool. Marilyn Monroe.
That's true. Is that true? Yeah. Okay. What a legend. The other college football game we gotta
talk about, Minnesota is for real for now, but they are for real. That was another electric
environment. Minnesota showed out. Minnesota fans were very mad at me because we tape the college
football show on a Wednesday and we aired on a Saturday. They sold out the game on Thursday.
So on Wednesday, I was like, this game's not sold out yet. They sold it out and it was a very loud,
awesome crowd. And I feel like it was slightly cheating to wear FSU's uniforms and make me think
that they were like Florida State was back, but PJ Fleck, he was literally rowing on the sideline.
They deserve all the credit because like that's a program that just hasn't been good for so,
so long. And to be this late, nine and oh insane. I love that he wears the tie underneath this
the school issued athletic gear. Did you see Mini Fleck? Yeah, so Mini Fleck was great. That's
when you know your program's back when you get the little kids dressing as you. Yeah,
there were some Andy Reed holiday babies too, some Halloween babies. The height of Kansas football
was when Manjino had baby Manjino. Yeah, that was the best. I think that's probably the coach
baby. Yes it is. But yeah, I think Minnesota's there, it was a really impressive win. I didn't,
I was unsure about Penn State going into the game because I hadn't really seen him play much this
year. But Minnesota just Molly whooped him. Yeah, well Clifford Clifford Clifford was hung in there
and they mean they had a chance to win. So it was a pretty close game, but still I didn't. I mean,
you credit workers do when you're nine and oh in the middle of November. And when you talk about
PJ Fleck though, you have to ask what's his next destination? Where's he go? Yes, I actually think
he just signed an extension on Tuesday, but he still could. Yeah, of course. I know the name.
Yeah, I mean, I think he would leave for Notre Dame or USC, but I don't know if anything else.
Can you imagine if thought just popped into my brain? It's not going to happen, God forbid,
but coach. Oh, Notre Dame. Imagine because it'd be fucking horrible. That would be horrible.
And then Oklahoma almost died, but it was late on Saturday. So people are just going to pretend
it didn't happen. Yeah, to the clones, to the clones. Was it 42, 41? Yeah, yeah. It was the best
college football Saturday we've had this year. I was just delirious still after the LSU win.
Yeah, but it was the best like wall to wall. It was, it felt like the most action and crazy games.
And it, I made this point. I can't remember because we do so many different shows, but
I'm just excited for the college football playoff. I just want new colors. That's why I want Oregon.
I'm sick of the old colors. You want to get I don't, I don't need a crimson and the orange and
like, you know, the red Ohio state. The house is going to make it, but I want the LSU. I want the
purple and the yellow. I want the green in the, in the neon with Oregon. You know, it just the
colors because like we've had some iteration of Ohio State, Oklahoma, Alabama, Clemson. It's like
all the colors. Give me new colors. I want to close my eyes and see new colors. At least Clemson
has kind of colors that pop. But once you get the Alabama, Oklahoma, back in Ohio state, Ohio
state, it's the same. It's kind of dull. Yeah. I mean, new colors. I agree with you. I could go for
the maroon and yellow of Minnesota. Is it maroon? It's uh, yeah. And it's gold. Gold. That's right
for the gold and gophers. Yes. Yeah. So I agree with you on the color aspect. I also think shout
out just to the entire state of Louisiana. I think that 90% of the state is drunk right now. So
yeah, absolutely. You don't have to go to work on Monday is a holiday in Louisiana. Absolutely.
Because it's veteran's day. All right. Yeah, it is. Do we have work tomorrow?
Happy birthday to the Marine Corps and to Hank's friend, our dog. No, Amrak, the guy who sells all
the hot dogs in the popcorn at every stadium. Yep. Armac. Armac. Armac. Um, okay. Let's finish
up. We have a Monday reading. It's a quick one and it struck me because it was after the LSU
Alabama game and coach. Oh, got doused in power aid, the blue power aid, which is an awesome picture.
Our friend, I don't know. Darren Revelle made it about himself made it about himself
and he wrote on his Instagram, the sports drink bath at the end of a huge victory usually makes
for a great photo. But tonight, the biggest win of Ed O'Jaron's career as his LSU team beat Alabama
exceeded expectations. You see the key to be an awesome photo after a bath is the color and power
aids. Mountain Barry blast did the trick. I like how he's schooling. Wait, did you see, did he give
us a Pantone check on a Gatorade? Yep. Mountain Barry's Barry blast did the trick as an aside.
This is totally an aside guys. As an aside, I did a story on Gatorade baths for the NBC
pregame show before the Superbowl as part of the piece. I got doused at the end. This is my favorite
part. Let me tell you, it is not surprisingly very cold and maybe surprising, very painful.
Oh shit, Darren, are you okay? When those ice cubes smack your head, it's bad news. Oh my god.
Darren Revelle. Darren Revelle came. Got attacked by an ice cube. And the thing is the ice that
they put in there, it's basically sonic ice. It's the softest ice. Darren probably asked them to go
to a sonic to fill up the Gatorade cooler. So he doesn't get CTE from getting a fucking Gatorade
bath. You know, Darren wrote a book about Gatorade. Yeah, he did. He totally cocked the moment here.
When those ice cubes smack your head, it's bad news. But that, but when a coach wins,
they don't care. Pretty amazing that this tradition has been taking place since 1984.
Thanks. That is pretty amazing. Pretty fucking cool. Imagine Coach O listening to Darren Revelle
complain to him about the ice cubes hurting his head during a Gatorade. He wouldn't understand it.
It's literally the softest thing you could do. Mm hmm. That, ow! Hey, hey, come on. This is
surprisingly uncomfortable. Coach O would just be like, what? What are you talking about? It's cold?
What are you talking about, the ice hurt? Fuck you. That ice, that ice, that ice takes way hurt.
That ice makes your soul feel good. I want ice to be. Put some ice on the hurt. I spent seven
hours a day laying in nothing but some dry ice. I want ice to be my friend. I still create hurt.
Ice take away hurt. Tiger, don't know you put some ice in your Tiger Bowl. Go Tiger.
Lap it up when it's scratching Tiger tongue. Go Tiger. Go Tiger. All right. See you guys on Wednesday. Love you guys.
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