Pardon My Take - Former MLB Manager Bobby Valentine, Suns In 4 And Segments Are Back

Episode Date: June 14, 2021

Suns in 4. The fight video that went viral proved prophetic as the Suns complete the sweep of the Nuggets ( 2:46 - 13:07). We talk about the weekend in sports and ate a ton of Papadillas (13:07 - 30:5...2). The Waterdogs are all the way back (30:52 - 37:12). Who's back of the week including Jeffery Toobin apologized for his jacking off (37:12 - 52:45). Former MLB Manager Bobby Valentine joins the show to talk about inventing the wrap, the famous mustache game, UFO's and running for mayor of Stamford (52:45 - 103:00). Segments include Talking Soccer, Talking Tennis, Happy Birthday Hank, and Sabermetrics.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. On today's pardon my take, we have Bobby Valentine, awesome interview with the man who invented the rap. We talk everything with Bobby, UFOs. We talk the famous mustache coming back from being ejected in the dugout. Awesome interviews.
Starting point is 00:00:29 You just talk to it and you're like, man, he's a cool guy, want to be friends with him. So, get excited for that interview. We also have a bunch of basketball talk, Sons in Four. We have Who's Back of the Week. We're going to talk some soccer, we're going to talk some tennis. We got some segments, great show coming for you, and we're brought to you by our friends at Black Rifle Coffee Company.
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Starting point is 00:02:26 Let's go. Let's go. It's part of my take presented by Bar, school, schools. Welcome to part of my take presented by Black Rifle Coffee Company. Today is Monday, June 14th. Sons and four. Sons and four. They did it.
Starting point is 00:03:12 The fellas did it. The guy is a legend. So if you've been living under a rock and you missed it, we had a fight video from which we don't condone fighting in the stands. But if you're going to fight in the stands, be a legend like this guy. If you're going to fight in the stands, win. Yeah. And when you're outnumbered and have lower ground, which is everything this guy did and
Starting point is 00:03:30 during the opposing teams, you know, or you're the opposing team in the home court of Denver. So he goes there, sons fan wearing a Steve Nash jersey throwback going up against a pair of Jamal Murray bros, which I don't know, fair or foul, but wearing the same, same jersey as your bro. Sus. I think you need to fill out the team. He's got to have a joke. It's one guy had two watches on and a bunch of chains, although there was that one fight
Starting point is 00:04:00 that happened in Dallas a couple of weeks ago where it was three separate guys wearing different. I saw that. You saw that. Yeah. They're all wearing 77 jerseys. Yes. They're all rocking Lucas.
Starting point is 00:04:11 But one was home. One was away. And then one was like a throwback alternate who comes in at the very end is like, what's going on here? Listen, as just a straight up, like we're not going to shame what whatever anyone wants to wear to a game. But if you saw that, what? Oh, nothing, nothing.
Starting point is 00:04:29 I don't want to get distracted. If you go, happy birthday, Hank, by the way, we should have said that right off the top. Happy birthday, Hank. If you go to a game and you show up, probably show up to your buddy's house to pick him up and he's got the same exact color Jamal Murray jersey. He's got to go back. One of these got to change. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Well, you got to go shirts and skins even at that point. I've noticed this about the fans in Denver. No disrespect to Denver or the families. But we used to be nuggets podcast. We were. I did notice that it's like 25 percent suns fans. They travel very well. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:00 Oh, yeah. Right up. What's the highway? Give us the high way. 85. 85. Right up 85. Pop up 85.
Starting point is 00:05:08 No problem. But yeah. Up into the Rockies. Yes. They're representing pretty well up in Denver. They were. And 70. 70.
Starting point is 00:05:16 Right. 70. I love it. And now knows that. And now we've got Chris Paul looking like he's 10 years younger now. I hope that it's going to be Suns against Clippers because I want to see Chris Paul go up against Ballmer. Yes.
Starting point is 00:05:29 Yes. All right. So wait. Yeah. Well, let's talk about Chris Paul, but we got it. We got to finish with it with the Suns and four guys. So if you missed it, it's a video that came out on the Internet on Saturday morning. It is from game three of Suns versus Nuggets, two guys matching Jamal Murray jerseys, tons
Starting point is 00:05:47 of chains, tons of watches. They have the higher ground against a sole guy who looks like just a chill ass dude, if I'm going to be honest, in a Steve Nash jersey. One of the Jamal Murray guys gives a look to the camera like, watch this, I'm about to sucker punch him, tries to throw the sucker punch, then gets basically like a hockey fight. The Steve Nash bro grabs him by the chains and just keeps giving him just making him eat uppercuts. And then the two Jamal Murray guys go and yell to the cops.
Starting point is 00:06:18 And as they're running away, the Suns fan says, Suns and four, Suns and four, which was legendary in the moment. But now that the Suns have actually finished the sweep and it is Suns and four, that guy has to, I don't know what they do pregame ceremonies, light the torch, ring the bell. Yeah. Dunk the gorilla. I don't know. He's got to be out there.
Starting point is 00:06:41 If you're the Suns organization, like it's all because no one got really hurt. It seemed like the Suns guy was the one who was getting sucker punch. He was defending himself. He had the low ground. There was a guy that was hitting him. All he did was he just sweated the dude and that's very difficult to do with a basketball jersey. You don't have sleeves.
Starting point is 00:06:57 It's not girthy. The sweater is not heavy like it is for an NHL sweater. So yeah, he just, he pulled it over his head, made him turtle, caught him with a couple of. Grabbed him by the chains too. Yeah. You got to take your chains off. You got him with a couple of nice uppercuts, but they were also very chill uppercuts at
Starting point is 00:07:13 the same time. Like I was never, I think that's the difference. That's why like the Internet is okay with this fight. No one's like trying. No one's shamed the guy yet for it because during the fight, there was never an instance where I was like, oh, these two guys in the Jamal Jury in the Jamal Murray jerseys, they're going to get hurt. Like it never looked like that.
Starting point is 00:07:32 It was just like solid connections to the face, neck area, and then they just ran away. It was the opposite of that Padres Rockies fan, which so Denver fans really are having a tough month. The guy who knocked out the Rockies fan and you're like, ooh, that actually was bad. Like we don't want to see people get knocked out. You're right. They were, they were more like, hey, I'm winning this fight on, he was, he was pointing him to death.
Starting point is 00:07:57 Yeah. He was scoring points on CompuBox and he wasn't actually going to knock him out. Yeah. So basically Denver fans, are they the YouTubers or the tiktokers of the fan fighting community, tiktokers, tiktokers got smoked. Oh, they did. Oh, no. That's too bad.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Five one. How will they recover? Dancing. Dancing. If you dance enough off of that, maybe get Charlie D'Amelio in one, they're going to meme their way through it. They'll forget everything about those fights. All right.
Starting point is 00:08:23 There's no one that gets roasted on the internet more than Patrick Mahomes's brother, but he doesn't give a shit. No, he dances it out. He literally, he literally is the, the, the cheesy saying like dance like no one's watching. Yes. People are watching, but dance like no one's watching. All right. So yeah, the Suns are that game.
Starting point is 00:08:41 That guy needs a ring. The bottom line is if they win, if they win the NBA finals this year, that guy needs a ring. AJ titties needs a ring. He, yeah. Bonk. He needs a ring for sure. And he needs to do the pregame ceremony.
Starting point is 00:08:54 If it's game one or game three, depending on the jazz or the clippers, you need to get him incorporated somehow. Even if it's like ring a bell, I don't know what the fuck the Suns do, even though we're Die Hard Suns podcast. We, I mean, we know, we just don't want to say, but yeah, have him out there, give a wave to the people, maybe have him do a little, you know, uppercuts and then everyone goes crazy. It would be the right thing to do.
Starting point is 00:09:17 It would. Because like everyone kind of likes this guy. You respect him. And to the, to the Nuggets fans out there, I have one thing to say. Imagine thinking that you're tougher than the Suns, the fucking Suns. The Suns. The only thing I could find is Lanks and Galway and campaign have a pregame like breakdancing ritual.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Yeah, campaign is an all famous all time dancer. Remember that, that clip of him dancing under, by the way, campaign also in a conference final. So who would have thought? Who would have thought we'd be here? Uh, anyway, Chris Paul, insane Chris Paul, I like, he's playing basically perfect basketball right now. He was 14 for 19 for 37 points.
Starting point is 00:09:58 There was a stretch there. I don't, did he go seven for seven? He was six for six in the third quarter. I don't know if he got up to seven for seven, but he was just on fire. He was on fire and I thought that he sucked last year. I was told that Chris Paul was cooked last year. No, he was, he was all right. I mean, remember he got the thunder like he made the thunder, not the worst team ever
Starting point is 00:10:17 last year. He's just a really, really good basketball player, which is not like saying something groundbreaking. It's always been about the injuries and hitting people in the balls. But he's playing perfect basketball right now. The Suns as a team are playing pretty much perfect basketball. And I know, let's throw this out there. The Jokic ejection was bullshit.
Starting point is 00:10:37 It was bullshit. He should, it may be a technical, but having that be an ejection was so, so stupid. I don't know if that changes the game. And I know some Nuggets fans will say, yeah, of course it does, but the Suns are just on a different level. The Suns are a better team. They're going to win the series. They were probably going to win this game, but like, yes, ejecting the reigning MVP,
Starting point is 00:10:58 that's going to have an effect on it. And I, my thing with this ejection, that's just, it's a playoff foul, big cat. Yeah. It's a playoff foul. It's a playoff foul. He wound up, he took a swing. I think that referee, he liked seeing himself on camera a lot. He is the king of staring into America's souls in the living room.
Starting point is 00:11:14 And he does like little pivots. He looks back. He looks like he's, he's on a runway out there. He wanted to get more FaceTime for himself. He's like, let's review this again. At first Reggie Miller was like, it's not a foul at all. And then he was like, you know what, throw him out, throw him out of the game. Get him out of here.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Honestly, in endless respect for Jokic, being an MVP in the NBA and still, I think he cuts his hair with a flowbie, whatever it is, it's like the, it's the same, like number three all over. He just takes the, takes the clippers to his head and he just goes, just get me out of this chair. I'm in, I'm out. There's no such thing as a fade when you're Jokic. And he also, he definitely won the face to face with Devin Booker.
Starting point is 00:11:51 You could read his lips. He was just saying, what, what are you going to do about it? What are you going to do about it? It's always like, when you say that and the guy's backing up, it's like, all right, well, you won this. Did you see his brothers at the MVP ceremony? No, he had a great MVP speech that was essentially, it was maybe 15 seconds and he was like, it's not about me.
Starting point is 00:12:09 It's about all these guys, clap it up for them. And then that was it. I like it. What was his brother? They're huge. They just looked like huge tattooed. Love it. I love it.
Starting point is 00:12:18 All right. We'll remember this year. The MVP season. Also, Deandre Ayrton's been awesome and I, he could have been awesome anyway. You know what I mean? Like he could have fulfilled his promises as the number one pick in the draft. But it is funny to be like, Hey, what, what happened to Deandre Ayrton? Oh, well, he's now paired with one of like the top five point guards of all time.
Starting point is 00:12:42 That probably helps. Chris Paul makes big guys great. And that's what he does. Deandre Ayrton, he misses like one, maybe two shots a game. You know, he might go through this playoffs with the highest field goal percentage of any player ever because he just gets the ball. Chris Paul just throws him lobs. It's everything that we were told Lobb City would be.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Yeah. Is his connection with Deandre Ayrton. And his defense has been amazing. The Suns are just playing at a different level. So great, great pivot by us. Do you want to chug with fellas to become to become a Suns podcast? I'll split this with you. If you want to chug this with the fellas, I'll just chug this, this chug the water.
Starting point is 00:13:15 Hang on. Fellas. Core seltzer. Orange cream. This is delicious by the way. Boom. I just hydrated. I don't know if you've had this.
Starting point is 00:13:23 No, it's gonna lie. I'm struggling with the Papa Dillas. Hear that, Perp. That was for the fellas. The Papa Dilladay didn't go so hot. Coming out. We can talk about that on who's back. The Papa Dillas sits heavy.
Starting point is 00:13:36 There's Papa Dillas. It's like I ate, I feel like I ate rocks. Let's just talk about it now. So we, all weekend long, I just sat there watching games in Papa Dillas. You're pronouncing like a gringo. It's Papa Dia. Papa Dia. There's no L in it.
Starting point is 00:13:49 No, it's Papa Dillas. Papa Dia. But ask yourself this, PFT, Papa John, do you think he wants to pronounce it any other way than as American and American was possible? It's Papa Dia. I'm shocked that Papa John didn't put an R at the end of it. Papa Dia. All right, so yeah, Papa Dillas, they do not sit light in the stomach.
Starting point is 00:14:14 I saw the commercial all weekend. I said, I texted the boys, the fellas on Saturday night, I was like, hey, you guys had Papa Dillas before? And everyone was like, no, but it looks good. I was like, all right, done for Hank's birthday, which we totally knew about. We totally knew his Hank's birthday. We knew that Hank loved Papa Dia's, his favorite thing in the world. So I got 26 Papa Dillas from Papa John's.
Starting point is 00:14:39 They thought I was pranking them. So I went, before I came in, I ordered it online and it didn't, for some reason, Papa John's didn't take my credit card, so I had to do the cash option. And when I showed up, they're like, oh, we thought we were getting pranked. Why would anyone order 26 Papa Dillas? So I was like, nope, I'm real. I want them. I want 26 of them.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Tried them all. Let's just say I probably won't be going back to the Papa Dillas. No, it's a one time thing, but it was good that we tried. You know what it was? If I were, if I could go back in time and be 21 year old big cat again, drinking a lot and smoking a lot and all that shit, I would be a Papa, I'd be the number one Papa Dilla account on Twitter. What the Papa Dia is, is basically just if you took a sandwich and just made grilled
Starting point is 00:15:27 cheese the bread, but then just didn't put anything in between, just stack grilled cheeses on top of each other. Yeah. It's kind of what they're going for. And you know what? To be totally honest with you, it worked for about the first four bites. Yeah. Yeah, it really did.
Starting point is 00:15:41 And it's more sandwich than pizza, just so everyone knows, because I know this was science for everyone at home. And we did get the rankings just quickly went BBQ chicken, Philly cheesesteak, Buffalo chicken. That's the top three. And the reviews, Jake said I've had worse. Hank said too deep fried. No, they're not deep fried. I said the Parmesan crusted ones made me believe in God, which is true.
Starting point is 00:16:08 And then PFT said no cap. These are major key. Yeah, it's paper. Bubba had the best review. He said Papa did it again. So that's our Papa Dilla's review. Honestly, every single fast food company in America should have a guy whose only job it is, is to just get really fucking high and sit in a room with all their ingredients.
Starting point is 00:16:27 And then just like take notes of everything that this guy creates. This should be Chris Long's job is just sitting in a room, like give it, put them in a Taco Bell test kitchen and give them ground beef, cheese, tortillas, sour cream, cheese, shredded lettuce, diced tomatoes and fire sauce. Just go fuck me up, daddy. Just go like, all right, go off, King. I also, I am reminded every now and then when I do something like that where I like people like, oh, commercials, so stupid, like commercials work on me all the time, 100% of the time.
Starting point is 00:17:00 If I see a commercial, I'm like, ooh, I got to have it. I was actually, I actually have a problem. I could have saved this for Firefest. I have been like burning through cash, just buying anything that pops up on my Instagram ads. Oh, really? Because it's all focused to you. So they're like, hey, here's this new shirt that won't make you look fat.
Starting point is 00:17:19 See, I can't do it with the Instagram ads because you know, anytime it's just like Lincoln bio, that's two extra clicks that I have to do. And that's too much work. No, dude. No, no, no. I'm not even. I need you to serve the link to me on a silver platter. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:33 So Lincoln bio. I'm talking about the ones that look like Instagram posts, but their ads, I'm just hitting that constantly. Yeah. Shop here. Boom. Done. I'll buy it and then I'll just forget it.
Starting point is 00:17:43 So yeah. And it really is. You think I'm joking, but there was a t-shirt I bought that was like, do your, do your, like, does your chest look too big in your t-shirt? Buy this t-shirt. It was like, damn, they really got a targeted ad here. I got hit like a month or two back to back with like just nothing but concurrent ads for things called lift kits, which are, they're just like socks that have an extra like inch
Starting point is 00:18:08 and a half in the heel that you can put on and then walk around and it's like before and after. And the guy is like two inches taller in the after picture. It's incredible. There's a guy who tweeted at me last week who said, uh, I'm so sick of the internet just having fleshlight ads all over the place. Can you fix this? I was like, uh, buddy, buddy.
Starting point is 00:18:30 Yeah. It sounds to me like a man that already has his fill of flesh. Yeah, he doesn't need it. He's no longer in the market for fleshlights and he's mad that he's getting served ads for him. Talk to me about same height parties, PFT. Same height parties. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:43 So apparently somebody probably narked on something that smashed the like button on on Twitter, but there's something called a same height party where you show up and they measure you at the door and depending on how tall you are, they give you these like lifts that you walk around in that bring you up to the exact same height as the tallest at the party. So everybody's the same height. I actually don't want to normalize. Same height parties.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Yeah. Normalize. I'm going to defend PFT. They look awesome. I'm going to defend PFT here. Let's think of like think about this. Basically that's a nightmare. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:13 But think about historically, right? Historically when you've got short guys, you get like Napoleon and Hitler who try to take over the world. Now we got short guys just being like, Hey, everyone's got to look eye to eye at this cocktail party. Dude, if we're good, we're going in a good direction here. If Austria had same height parties, I think that right now, the geopolitical situation in Europe would be much simpler than it currently is.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Yes. So short guys no longer trying to take over the world and just being like, Hey, meet me eye to eye when I'm trying to have this cocktail weenie. I'm cool with it. Also, Napoleon gets a bad rap because I think he was just normal height for his time. But they're like, he's short and retro. I thought he was pretty short. No, that's James Madison.
Starting point is 00:19:52 James Madison was like five, two. Yeah. Where'd you go to school? Couldn't dunk a basket central Virginia. All right, let's talk some basketball. Let's talk some more basketball. The Nets are broken ever since pretty much the moment we finished taping with Kirk Goldsbury on Thursday and said the Nets are a super team and can't be stopped.
Starting point is 00:20:11 I think we said they weren't going to lose a game. Yeah. Everything has gone very badly since they obviously lost on Thursday, which we recapped today. Kyrie Irving goes out. They lose game for do I did see some people tweeting and people talking about Yanis that was that a dirty play. I don't think it was.
Starting point is 00:20:31 No, I thought it was. I thought it was weird. They didn't review it because I do think like if you're going to call landing, what do they call landing area? Yeah, like invading a guy's landing area. He did do that. But it was also in the key. Yeah, it wasn't.
Starting point is 00:20:44 The people were comparing it to Zaza. Yeah, I don't know if you could sell that. People were comparing it to Zaza doing that to Kawhi. That was totally different. Yeah, that on that one, he like walked underneath his feet on a three point and this one, when you're around the basket, I think it's harder to time that shit out. It is, but he did go kind of underneath them.
Starting point is 00:21:01 Again, I'm just shocked they didn't review it. I don't think that there was any dirtiness, any malicious intent. At that point, we're getting into like hockey, Twitter, break it down frame by frame in the speed of the moment. You don't know like if there's anybody in the league where you don't know where that guy's going to land on the layup, it's Kyrie Irving because he that's where he's making like all his last second moves and adjustments. So I don't think he could do that if he tried.
Starting point is 00:21:22 I don't think that he was trying, but I did admire. I don't agree with the take, but I did admire the take from Big Baby. Glenn Davis, Glenn Davis said, that's the same ankle he used to step on lucky. And it wasn't. It wasn't, of course he fucked that up. But of course you can't, you can't let facts get in the way of a good. That was a good take. Never.
Starting point is 00:21:45 You should know his left and right. What does it matter? It doesn't matter. It doesn't. He's made millions of dollars principle. Yeah. And I think that there was like a weird backlash against Big Baby for for saying that because they were like, yo, he's injured.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Like this is this is fucked up big baby. Yeah, he is injured. But like it's a step down lucky. It's a spraying ankle. Right. Step down lucky. So what he'll never be a hundred percent again. Yeah, I was going to say the bad news for the nets is his x-rays came back
Starting point is 00:22:11 negative, which means it was sprained, which is way worse than it was worse. He won't be a hundred percent again. And he was wearing, you know, he's wearing after the game. What walking boot. Oh, no. Hey, Kyrie, Kyrie, Kyrie. I was thinking maybe maybe you put maybe you slip me on. We can discuss whether or not we should add some healing crystals into my tongue.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Hey, Kyrie, if you if you hopped on a boat and went to the end of the horizon, you just fall right off. Kyrie, you you you best to move. I'll notice you're living next to a 3G tower. Oh, man, it is it is a little like obviously. The nets at full strength are probably the best team in the NBA and better than the box, but at some point you do have to admit that like Kyrie Irving, James Harden, those guys do get injured.
Starting point is 00:23:01 So to to say, oh, they they got derailed by injury. Well, they are also injury prone, right? So like it's not totally crazy. It's not like someone who, you know, it's not like a like LeBron, you know, A.D. getting hurt, A.D. gets hurt. If LeBron gets hurt, it's like, holy shit, LeBron got hurt. Like LeBron never gets hurt. So I as much as it sucks, I kind of I kind of like that the nets
Starting point is 00:23:27 have to they have to win at the heart. We got to overcome something like I think that if I think James Harden will probably be back and this is just a total guess for maybe game six. So so KD on Tuesday night has to and and I want to say it, P.F.D. Should we use the L word? Is this a legacy game for Kevin Durant on Tuesday night? I was going to say it's a must win. If you want to jump to legacy, well, if we're going to do a legacy game,
Starting point is 00:23:52 we have to have someone that he's passing the torch to. If he doesn't win this legacy game, there needs to be a new torch. Would it be Yanis? Oh, is this a torch game? Or is Kawhi is, dude, Kawhi just every now and then will just pop up on on the legacy watch. Yeah. It's like, remember Kawhi? She's perfect in fourth quarters that they won. I do. All right, let's talk about that series real quick.
Starting point is 00:24:13 How come bad players never get hurt? Uh, wait, no, the bad players do get hurt. Do they? You just you never hear about like Kelly Olinik needing surgery. I'm trying to think bad players getting hurt clinic clinic. The clinic. Yeah, the legend. Uh, oh, they did say that James Harden was going to try to come back. But Steve Nash said that he needs to string together loads before he can come back.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Kelly Olinik, right shoulder surgery, 2016. Oh, I don't I don't recall him missing any time for that. All right. So the Clippers, I the Clippers. Kelly Olinik didn't miss any games in 2016. It was May 17, 2016 when the Celtics. Yeah, he missed two playoff games against the Hawks. Oh, in February, two games. Damn. I'm just reading a story. I don't know the Clippers.
Starting point is 00:25:00 So one playoff playoff P way to go. It is great, like as much as we are very mean to to Paul George online and everyone is when he does do well, he gets extra credit. Like everyone's like playoff P. This is incredible. I also feel like Kawhi is like and we talked to Kirk Goldsbury about this on Thursday, but he really does like practice load management within a playoff series where it's like I don't need to try really hard until we let go down two games.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Or yeah, I think Kirk was saying like you don't put Kawhi on somebody until you need to stop him because you know it's going to happen. We don't want to get him tired over the course of a few games. So yeah, like during the course of a game, he'll even like he he does can serve his energy, especially like on offense. I've noticed that Kawhi. Yeah. He doesn't move around as much as as much as he could. I'll put it that way. Yes.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Like he will like chill in the corner. LeBron does that too, though. Yeah, he doesn't play defense where he doesn't play defense and sometimes doesn't play offense. But yeah, you know, you know, you're right. But that's a lot of energy going after the refs. Correct. Correct. A lot of talking to the referee and Kawhi doesn't use any energy at all,
Starting point is 00:26:12 talking to anyone, right, even his teammates. Exactly. Or smiling. Isn't it like if you laugh, you burn 10 calories. No, it's it takes like I want to say 20 muscles to frown and 10 muscles to smile. But he just doesn't. But it takes zero muscles to do neither one. Nothing. Yeah. Also shout out LeBron for swearing on Twitter. That was shocking.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Fuck. Right ahead of Space Jam, too. That was very shocked. A loud ass hell swear word. Yeah, that series will be interesting. And then the Sixers, the Sixers might just be the best team in the East who are just kind of waiting or the best team in the NBA who are just waiting because they have sort of destroyed the Hawks last two games. So who? Who do you put? Defense is good.
Starting point is 00:26:56 Sixers. Very good. Good. That's very big of you. Ben Simmons should have been the defensive player of the year. So who do they put Ben Simmons on if they go up against Nets? Bruce Brown, whoever they want. Yeah, Bruce Brown's floaters. Don't let him get floaters in the middle. Bruce Brown. He just keeps going with the floaters and I love it.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Big Cat, I'm there are a lot of Bruce Brown haters out there. We are not amongst them. I'm looking at the box score right now. He was plus three today. Yeah, dude, his floaters work. Yeah, sometimes. It's like J.R. Smith level of every time he shoots. You're like, what? What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:27:28 Well, I think the fact that it's a floater every time and it's like, what's going on here? Like most guys take like one or two floaters a game. Bruce Brown just every shot to floater. Yeah, but I think the Sixers will see. And I do every time the Sixers win a game and they play that song, it's fucking sick. You have to give them that. Right.
Starting point is 00:27:50 Yeah. OK. Their defense is good. All right, so there we go. Anything else from the weekend for basketball? I think that's about it. I think we covered most sons and four. That kind of legend. Right. A junior loss of championship.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Oh, and Drake was there. Yeah. Making it all about himself. Wait. Drake showed up at a tournament with a bunch of 17 year olds. Yep. Wow. Careful. No, it's just interesting.
Starting point is 00:28:13 That's all. I'm just intrigued by it. I thought he had like some sort of restraining order. Some 16 keep him away from schools. Yeah. All right, the hockey. We had the Islanders beat the Lightning. So there's a start. Oh, also the Avalanche were the greatest team
Starting point is 00:28:29 to never win a Stanley Cup. Yep. Like that. I mean, lame doubt. You know what? I'm entering the point in this hockey playoffs. For now, I'm I'm mad at people because we were told that the Avalanche were just going to shit pump everybody.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Yes, we were told they were a wagon and they're not a wagon at all. Turns out the Golden Knights might be a wagon. Turns out the Islanders, America's team, they're the South's team now. There's a chance they're the New York Saints. Yeah, I love Ryan Whitney, Situates Finest and Biz.
Starting point is 00:28:59 There's a chance that there might be some bias where I'm not sure what's like they've talked down on the Islanders so much because Whitney goes at it with their fans. Oh, but it's like I'm starting to wonder if maybe the Islanders are just good. Yeah, they said the Bruins are going to ship up the Islanders. It does.
Starting point is 00:29:13 And then they're like, no matter what happens, the Lightning are going to ship up the Islanders. And then the Islanders won Game 1 pretty handily. I agree with you. It does feel, every time the Islanders win a game, I'm like, wow, they must have just done it with grit and grind. Like, how did they pull this off again?
Starting point is 00:29:26 They might just be really good. I think they're the highest scoring team in the playoffs. Yeah, and they're doing it without their captain, who I thought I saw Anders Lee. I think he skated the other day. Yeah, is it fair for me to partially claim this Islanders run as a Caps fan because they got Barry Trotz and Varley?
Starting point is 00:29:44 It's Cap. Is that Cap? Am I capping right now? Yeah, you can't cap that. But you know that any time that happens, you've got to be like, there's a special part in your brain that's in the interest of self-preservation trying to make me feel OK about it.
Starting point is 00:29:55 I think you should be more mad at the Caps for letting Barry Trotz. For capping on Barry Trotz. That situation. Yeah, that's tough. I think he has to go. He has to leave and have to be gone for a really long while for it to be like, OK, now I'm rooting for Barry Trotz.
Starting point is 00:30:13 Wait, I mean, you're rooting for Campaign. Yeah, I mean, well, that's that has become, I don't know. I still don't know how he's getting these minutes. And I don't know. I yeah, he's a he's a wonder. Yeah, I don't know. I'm more I'm not even rooting for him. I'm just shocked that he's doing what he's doing.
Starting point is 00:30:31 And he's actually like contributing. Yes. Yeah, out of nowhere. But with Barry Trotz, it's like he won a Stanley Cup. Yeah, no, I'm mad. He personally won me a Stanley Cup. So I'm like, cap for life that guy. Yeah, no, no, you're you're right on that.
Starting point is 00:30:43 I would be more I think just the way he left. Like how how the hell did he leave the year after they won the Stanley? Yes, contract just ran right. That would be that would piss me off. That'd be more I think you root for Barry Trotz and you're mad at your own franchise. Yes, that's where I'm at.
Starting point is 00:30:56 OK, but still, that's yes. You can really go. Yeah. All right. So the PLL our water dogs are the hottest team in sports. I don't want to say they listen to us, but they definitely listen to us because we dog walked them the last week because they were that bad week one.
Starting point is 00:31:15 And they actually took our advice to just shoot more. So I am going to say good job, water dogs. I'm proud of the fellas. They they put up to I watch both games. They you know how I know that they they actually took some criticism from from the owner's suite. Game one, they had a power play and I know everyone's like, oh, it's man up, it's man up.
Starting point is 00:31:37 Dude, the fucking NBC Sports broadcast calls it a power play. So I'm calling it a power play. Well, I'm actually I'm I'm in dining NBC Sports broadcast for that. You know, who would not make a mistake like that? Chick Marsh, he was announced. No, no, but they're trying to they're doing this thing. This is what happens every time rugby is on television. America, every single play.
Starting point is 00:31:55 It's like this is like a free throw in basketball. Right. Yeah. But they should call it a power play if it's a power play, but it's a man up. Whatever. I don't care. I'm calling it a power play. They call it a power play. Shut up, people, you know, saying it's man up.
Starting point is 00:32:07 I'm a big I'm a fucking lacrosse team owner. Do they call it the Sin Ben? When a guy goes to the penalty box, I don't know what they call it. That'd be cool. Jake, you can use that one. I napped for most of the games. Just just I'll use it if I got a game. Yeah. So I they shot right away on the power play of game one.
Starting point is 00:32:21 Game two, they started the game, won the face off, fucking two point bomb, four seconds into the game. That's how you play. So there's been a shitload of of scoring. I I'm starting to wonder if the balls are docked and lacrosse is here. Because is this the first year that they're using the Deglo yellow ball? I think it's the two point thing. The two point line. That's probably that has something to do with it.
Starting point is 00:32:41 Yeah, we take a lot of long ones, though, which I don't like to fix that. I don't like that. We got to take a look at it. We got to run it through a software algorithm and see exactly what we need to tweak. But we're on the right track. More shots, shots. I am convinced and not our goalie. Our goalie is cool. I like that guy.
Starting point is 00:32:59 I think they were. I think they were getting after it at the airport with the with the boys after a great weekend. Well deserved. But every other goalie stinks. Goals just stinking lacrosse. And I'm not saying that as a mean thing. I think it's an impossible job for them to have to save a baseball coming at them 105 miles an hour and like a bunch of bodies in front of them.
Starting point is 00:33:19 All the gear. I don't know how any goalie ever saves anything. So my point is just shoot more. I'm always amazed that there aren't more like just hard shin bruises in lacrosse from shots like a lacrosse ball hitting your leg. That seems like the most painful thing ever. Dude, our captain, I think he's our captain, Drew Snyder. He got hit in the ribs on Friday night and it was like almost five seconds
Starting point is 00:33:42 after he pulled up his shirt and it was completely black and blue. It was crazy. I love the the long haired guy with a mustache on our team. Who's that guy? He scores too many goals. Mikey Schlosser, Mikey Schlosser, every time I see him, it's very tricky because with the font that we use for numbers, it looks like he's number 69 from the side and then he rotates and it's 59.
Starting point is 00:34:03 Guys, look at us. We're just talking lax. Yeah, just regularly talking. That kid's got flow, man. I just good to win. You know what? I'm happy that they listen to us because we sucked week one. And if we go back to that, I will say that we suck again.
Starting point is 00:34:17 And we're an embarrassment to the show. I'm just going to say this. If we go on a two game losing streak at any point, we're going to move the team. We're moving it. I know that we don't have a town. It's like a traveling circus of lacrosse that we do. But we're going to move the fucking team out of Loserville. Don't believe me.
Starting point is 00:34:33 Try me. Try because I would love it. Yeah, we would. We'll fucking do anything. I'll pay for my own fucking stadium. We won't. We won't, uh, we'll stop paying the players. We will stop paying the players.
Starting point is 00:34:45 That's it. We have to power the. Make them play better. We'll fucking do it. We will do it. I don't think there's a union. We'll stop playing the players and then we'll double what we pay them currently if they win four games in a row.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Who's the head of the? And then I'll match it. Who's the head of the union? Fucking Paul Rable's brother. It's probably, it's probably Paul. Paul's the commissioner and the head of the union. He, he negotiates against himself. Well, I'm pretty sure we can stop paying the players if we want.
Starting point is 00:35:09 Yeah. All right. Any other sports stuff we were going to do talking tennis and talking soccer in segments. So we're not going to miss those. Um, college baseball. We're in it. We're watching it.
Starting point is 00:35:24 It's on. It's on. That was our college baseball segment. I actually do love it. Was Texas wearing like, were they wearing like deceptively university of Tennessee type uniforms? Speaking of the university of Tennessee, you see that they, they bad, bad university of Tennessee, they priced out all the real fans.
Starting point is 00:35:42 I did see that it was like 300 dollars for a ticket. Forgot to mention this with the lightning. The lightning are kicking out fans of the lower section that aren't lightning fans. Yeah, they've been doing it for a while. They did that. They, they did that in 2015 against the Hawks. It's insane.
Starting point is 00:35:56 They tried to pin more steam. It's crazy. They have to talk about it. It's a bunch of Islander's fans got kicked out today just for, just for being in the lower section in 2015. They tried to ban. I think it was if you bought tickets from a non Florida area code, you like they wouldn't sell them.
Starting point is 00:36:14 They've been doing this bullshit for years. They did it in 2018 too. When the caps were playing against them. Third leg. Greg or people like coming down, trying to get us kicked out. Yeah. Remember when Nate got slapped? Yeah, that was funny.
Starting point is 00:36:25 Bad, bad sports town, bad sports town. Actually, it's crazy. Like Tampa Bay, they, they had no excuse to be this type of bad sports town until the last like two years. Now they're the epicenter of everything. Yeah. Yeah. They've, yeah, they're in everything.
Starting point is 00:36:40 You remember that, that letter that the lightning wrote to their fans a couple years ago? The best letter ever. Pull it up and read it to us, Jake. I want to, I want to hear that from you. Let me, let me get to who's back of the week. Who's back of the week is brought to you by the cash app. The cash app is back.
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Starting point is 00:37:13 So download the cash app from the app store or Google Play Store today and get the cash app, use that code barstool, get $10 free, $10 to ASPCA. Jake, the lightning. We don't have any words and we know you don't want to hear them. We understand your anger, your frustration, your sadness, everything you're feeling. We get it. This isn't the ending we imagined and certainly not the one we wanted. Thank you for being there the entire way.
Starting point is 00:37:37 They did win the cup after. Yeah. Apologies work, I guess. That's just an all timer. Cut themselves. An all timer. That's just, that's just a social media team that's not living in reality. I think the social media team was just, that was them, that was their version of
Starting point is 00:37:55 notesapping like something problematic that they had done in their past. Like when you see somebody get like their old tweets brought up. That's the, that's the social media team equivalent of doing that. In little do they know all they had to do was, was type out final period. Yeah. And that would have been more than enough, more than enough. All right. Who's back the week, Hank?
Starting point is 00:38:16 I was back the week is a little more Odom. Yeah. There was a lot of big fights this weekend. High profile guys, UFC, Tik Tokers, YouTubers, but on Saturday, no, Friday night. Lamar Odom versus Aaron. Aaron Carter. I'll just say Aaron Paul, but that's not his name. No.
Starting point is 00:38:36 Aaron Carter. I don't know what this fight was. I didn't see any promotion about it other than Buddha been tweeting about it. And then the video that came out after, but it was just Lamar, Lamar Odom, just dumbing fucking Aaron Carter. Obviously huge height difference. It didn't look like Aaron Carter was trained at all. And he just beat the shit out of him.
Starting point is 00:38:52 Aaron Carter also fought like he was mad. Lamar Odom fought like he was just annoyed that this little guy was buzzing around him like a mosquito. I like the idea that, uh, you know how in the fire fest, when they did their promotion, they're like, we're just going to pay all the Instagram influencers, a ton of money to promote this, this fight company was like, we'll just pay Buddha Ben and that will be enough. I mean, I was, the video was pretty hilarious.
Starting point is 00:39:16 Severe and just like sprinting at him and Lamar Odom just being like, get, get away from me. Weirdo, your brother's band sucks. Yeah. But yeah, then I also watched the YouTube versus TikTok fights on like a YouTube stream where some kids had, it was, it was the title of it was Fortnite with the boys. And it was like one of those streams where the kid would come on, like an interrupt.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Hey guys. Uh, I think I just typed it in Twitter and then I clicked the link and it was like Fortnite with the boys. When I was on it was like 800 people. And by the end of it, there was like 80,000. I thought I was going to get it. Oh, wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:46 It'd be hilarious if Dana White was running one of those like to just totally undercut the competition. He's doing, he's FaceTiming the screen. By the way, Nate, he has, he's the best. He loves getting his ass kicked. He loves just, and he loves also like losing, but having everyone respect him the most. Yeah. And be like, dude, he was about to knock him out.
Starting point is 00:40:07 And he really could have, if he just didn't, he was doing that. We did that weird thing where he was like standing sideways. Oh, he was presenting his asshole. Like that's literally what he was doing. He was like, he was looking over his shoulder, like, come on over here, big boy. You won't. And then every time he would get tagged in the face, he would like take a second and smell and be like, that was good.
Starting point is 00:40:26 I like that. We're going to get him on the show. We actually at one point had him, he missed the flight, I think. Or no, it's something happened where he could like fishbowl the studio. Yeah. No, he, the, the question that was asked to me before we, I was trying to get him on and I was talking to some guys and they were like, you guys cool with like if Nate smokes or like, yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 00:40:46 Let's all smoke. So hopefully we have Nate on at some point and we all smoke. That would be awesome. I'm going to put Jake, put that in my, put that on my to-do list. It's just a future reminder. Yeah. I got him to get back into contact with the guy. Above or below the dick sucking.
Starting point is 00:41:03 Oh, low. Yeah. When we love, how many will suck below? Yeah. Below dick sucking, uh, but Aaron Rodgers retiring. That's today. He's going to, or no, he's going to get traded this week. Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:17 Yes. So what do you want this reminder? I think every Sunday night, Thursday, Thursday, or for the night one, for to reach out to these people and try to get that Thursday. But that's a, that's a guaranteed have to be in person. Yes. Cannot do a Nate Diaz interview over Zoom. Hank, weren't you supposed to do that thing with the leaf blower where you just
Starting point is 00:41:38 smoke out the entire studio? We'll do that in front of Nate Diaz. We have to do that with Nate Diaz. In front of Nate Diaz. That would be incredible. I bought the pound and then Nate Diaz for Great Week. We got acquired by Penn and I was told we shouldn't, but with Nate Diaz, Nate Diaz for Great Week in a legal state.
Starting point is 00:41:53 Yeah. All right. All right. I had to just. I'm going to do everything I can for the AWL's Nate Diaz for, for Great Week. Is it, I think we could probably pay him to just, yeah, we just bought him a flight somewhere. Is that, that's not illegal though, to buy a pound of marijuana and then smoke it
Starting point is 00:42:10 with the boys with Nate Diaz. Is it? In a legalized state, it's not. I think it's still is illegal to own over a pound. And now it's, we'll do a couple of ounces. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll, we'll figure it out. We'll figure it out.
Starting point is 00:42:20 We'll figure it out. We'll figure it out. Listen, details later, but just put it, everyone put it in their own calendar. We're going to do. We should get really high and invent a new Taco Bell item. That would be great. Done. Make that happen.
Starting point is 00:42:32 Papad Diaz. I have a feeling if I get high now that I'm all on, all I'm thinking about is Papad Diaz. You're just going to recreate the Papad Diaz again. Well, what if we folded it? Yeah, which are deep fried. Yeah. That actually is why I think that Papadilla was deep fried.
Starting point is 00:42:50 No, was, was why I was like drawn to it. I thought it was a new Taco Bell item and Taco Bell only releases the best items. Facts. Okay. Grity to crunch. True. Best fast food item, maybe ever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:02 Best food ever. Um, all right. PFT. My who's back of the week is Jeremy Tubin. Jeremy Tubin, Jeffrey Tubin, sorry, Jeffrey Tubin, came back with a vengeance on CNN last week. So they brought him back on. He's the guy that you might remember.
Starting point is 00:43:18 He got caught jacking off on a zoom meeting with the New Yorker staff. And so he got fired from New Yorker and he was a legal analyst on CNN. They brought him back on and the female anchor that brought him to the desk introduced him and then she's like, maybe we should take just a second to get everybody recapped on why you haven't shown your face around here. And he was like, yeah, I guess if you want to do that, go ahead. And then she spent about a minute and a half talking about how he got caught jacking off on a Skype call at his other job and wasn't welcome back or he
Starting point is 00:43:48 got fired from that job. And it was, I, I love seeing somebody just get publicly shamed for jacking off. Yep. And with, with Jeffrey Tubin, I need like a disclaimer on my screen at all times when he's presenting any sort of legal advice. He should, or he should wear like a scarlet letter, but it's like the egg plant emoji on his chest. Or at the very least, give me like a yellow box.
Starting point is 00:44:08 Like they show on a score bug for flags when Jeremy Tubin shows up, give me a yellow box that pops up. It's like, this guy jacks off. It should, it should be the jackass. It should be like warning this man has been, has jacked off in front of a camera before warning this guy, master base. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:23 So I'm, I'm looking forward to seeing more of him on the TV. Uh, he's just, I, if you were him, he's probably what, like 60, what do you think, 65 or 61 years old? I respect, respect. First of all, to Jeffrey Tubin for continuing to have a healthy sex life with his hand when you're 61. I've just always assumed that when you hit 50, you shouldn't jack off anymore. Like that's, it's, I'm becoming honestly of a gentleman to do that.
Starting point is 00:44:49 You can't be jacking off anymore. I wish that, um, he had just cause you know, the, the CNN thing I watched as well, it was so awkward and he's like, I hope I can regain your trust. And, and of course, like jerking off in front of your colleagues, whether he says that he doesn't know he was on camera or whatever, like very bad, but he should have been like, Hey guys, listen, I'm a guy, I jerk off. It, you know what? You should trust me more because I'm just a regular guy who jerks off.
Starting point is 00:45:20 And guess what? This is my pledge to you. I will not do it in front of any more cameras. They should do a segment called jacking it with Jeffrey every week where he talks about like some Instagram thought. Lean into it. Yeah, lean into it. You have to own it at this point.
Starting point is 00:45:31 Yeah, dude, guess what? You're going to get bonked once or twice. That's the day and age that we live in. But yeah, just become the jackoff guy. Yeah. We should put this in the notes, Jake. Let's try to book him and let's try to jerk off in front of him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:45 Have him judge us. Definitely get a zoom call going with, with tubing. Why would you like to do, uh, whenever you surprise us. All right. We should be above or below the, the. Where am I? We should actually try to self-suck on the zoom call with Jeffery. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:59 Yeah. So we'll interview him and then we'll just right in the middle of it. We'll be, we'll say that we thought the cameras were off. Yeah. We'll just start trying to give ourselves head. I would like to do an exit interview with Jeffrey Tubin. Yeah. Peter Norstik.
Starting point is 00:46:11 Do you want to do it like during football season? Maybe before. Yeah. It feels like before or after a week before or after. All right. Second we go August. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:46:20 Alpha. Wait, when's, when's national masturbation day? I know it right after, right after Pupparino day. National masturbation is May 7th. May 7th. We just missed it. Damn it. Oh, all right.
Starting point is 00:46:35 So next year, May 7th. Put it in. All right. Uh, to all those who celebrate. My first though, so we can. Yeah. Yes. So we get a little bit of, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:43 My who's back is, uh, the Cubs are back. Uh, they're. I'm, I had no statistics behind this. The hottest team in baseball and also Wrigley is packed and also Anthony Rizzo. Uh, was under fire on Friday because he didn't get vaccine, uh, vaccinated. But then he had like one of those 16 pitch at bats where he had a home run, which is the coolest thing you can do in a baseball game. So pretty much all is forgiven and nobody's going to bring up the vaccination
Starting point is 00:47:11 stuff after in a bat like that. No, exactly. Like it was, I was watching it live. It was what it is one of the coolest things to do when you're watching a baseball game and a guy keeps fouling off every single pitch and you get to like 12, 13, 14 pitches and you just know, like he's going to do something sweet because he just, you can just feel it in the, in the crowd, rises and everyone gets into it. And then boom, home run.
Starting point is 00:47:34 So yeah, everything else he said earlier that day, who cares? But I got, you should get vaccinated. I got offered a trade in my fantasy baseball league. Seymett express, Anthony Rizzo was on it. I declined it because I don't want to get vaccinated. I don't want him infecting. You want to keep 85% threshold. I don't want to have him getting my other players sick.
Starting point is 00:47:52 Yeah. 85% threshold. Yep. I want to keep it like that. So you can, my guys can enjoy life, stay loose a little bit. It was a sick home run though. It was, it was very, very sick home run. There's nothing better than like any at bat that goes above 10 pitches.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Yeah. That ends in a hit. Yes. Forget about a home run that ends in a hit. It feels like you've just watched the greatest movie of all time. And you can also say you can sound like you are a true baseball analyst. We're like, that was a professional at bat. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:16 That was a professional at bat. All the kids at home. It's just great seeing the crowds back. Like, I know that we've done this before the fans. I would we say, uh, by like Thanksgiving, you have to stop saying great to have fans back. Yeah. You got to have at least one home game in every major sport at all the iconic destinations.
Starting point is 00:48:33 Okay. Yeah. So that was this weekend. It was Cubs Cardinals. It was beautiful Friday afternoon game, like beautiful weather. And everyone's having a great time in the bleachers. The best. Oh, it just occurred to me with the sun's guy that we were talking about earlier.
Starting point is 00:48:48 Yeah. It do you think that the sun's our team of destiny? We talked about the gorilla. I think so for Harambe. Yeah. I think so until Chris Paul gets hurt because that's gonna happen soon. But we're a sun's podcast seriously. Just another pat on the back for us to go from to switch from a regular
Starting point is 00:49:08 season nuggets podcast. We we put a fucking MVP in our trophy case and then we switched the team. They get swept by everything we touch turns to gold on this show. All time move. Water dogs are on fire. Yeah. Water dogs can't stop winning. Literally cannot stop winning.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Jake, you're who's back? Simone Biles. She won the US gymnastics championship seventh all around national title. Just a good reminder that coming up the Olympics. US is good at very niche sports. Yes. The there was a clip of Simone Biles. Super slow motion and it blew my fucking mind.
Starting point is 00:49:43 Yeah. Like the shit she does in the air is insane. Well, she's doing the Biles. Yeah, she's doing the Biles. She does. But watching it in super slow mode is there's like five different must be done. There's like five different moves that she does in the air. Yeah, I would forget what I was doing next.
Starting point is 00:50:00 I would just like two flips, a twist, another flip, another twist. I'd break every single ball. You know what I would do is I went on one of those fucking bouncy mats. The minute I tried to lift off my ankles would just shatter. Your body would be your soul, but you know, you know what I also would do is I'd end like this and I would get at least one point for that. That's true. If you do this, you get like the SATs, right?
Starting point is 00:50:23 Well, yeah, you put your name down, you get two order points. If you end like this, it's not just that you have to salute the judges, right? The judges, in my respect, you have to look at the judges, present yourself to them. Yeah. So yeah, if you've got like compound fractures and feet together in both legs, you're looking like Lieutenant Dan won't be hard. You hit the floor and you just like look at them and go like that. I mean, that's better than some Olympians have done.
Starting point is 00:50:44 Won't be hard to have my ankles be touching because the bones will be just sticking out, both touching that way. You've got the scooter and then I'm just get you right off. Wow, that was majestic. All right, let's get to our interview with Bobby Valentine. We got some segments coming up after before we get to our interview. PFT, you had a quick word from our sponsor. Yes, I'm very excited about this.
Starting point is 00:51:04 So we've talked a little bit about the show Dave on this podcast. I actually watched the entire season one. So good. It's coming back. It's coming back. And today's episode, a part of my take is brought to you by that all new season of the FX original comedy, Dave. Dave stars none other than Dave Bird, also known as the rapper Lil Dicky,
Starting point is 00:51:23 who believes he's destined for rap superstardom, but at what cost? He's got pressure mounting as he records his debut album. Dave has to decide if he's going to sacrifice friendships, love and his own sense of self in order to make his dream come true. Season two is going to have some awesome guest stars. You've got Lil Nas X, Kevin Hart, Kendall Jenner, Doja Cat, Jay Balvin and more. And our own Barclaysport staff have also shared how excited they are for the return of Dave in the Barclaysport article about the Dave season two trailer
Starting point is 00:51:52 available to watch on YouTube. Nate wrote, I think if there's one thing that is universally loved, it's the TV show Dave. Well said, Nate, he's absolutely 100 percent right. He said, Lil Dicky is a genius. Shout out, my man, Gata. I love Gata. He's my favorite character on the show.
Starting point is 00:52:10 There isn't a single spot for a joke wasted in the script. That was from Vibs. One of the best seasons of a show I've seen in a long, long time. That's from Hubs. It's one of the funniest and best shows in a long, long time. Lil Dicky is so insanely talented. It's absurd. That's also from Nate.
Starting point is 00:52:26 So Dave drops Wednesday, June 16th on FXX. Nothing else from Hubs. It was just that one thing from Hubs. Why? No, just curious. Why? Nate got two. I didn't know if Hubs was. Nate got two. Nate's the star of the sad read, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:38 And then Vibs only had one. So he has to share the spotlight with everybody else. So Dave drops Wednesday, June 16th on FXX. Streaming next day on FX on Hulu. We love Dave. It's going to be incredible. Watch it. Check it out.
Starting point is 00:52:54 You will not be disappointed. That's a PFT guarantee. And now here is the adventure of the rap, Bobby Valentine. OK, we now welcome on a very special guest. It is Bobby Valentine. Valentine. Why did you screw that up? Valentin.
Starting point is 00:53:10 Valentin. Has anyone ever called you Valentin, like a teacher back in school? I get in my own head when I pronounce names. Bobby Valentine, very excited to have you on. You there's a lot we got to talk about, but you are running for mayor of Stanford. That's how I saw you pop up the other day. Your ad, which was fantastic.
Starting point is 00:53:32 And let's just start at the most important topic because I pointed out that I would like to be part of your campaign team and the first order of business would be we wouldn't do a single ad without mentioning that you invented the rap. So we need to talk about you inventing the rap. You are one of the greatest inventors of all time. It's up there with Michelangelo. I don't know who Thomas Edison who else invented stuff.
Starting point is 00:54:00 I mean, there are a lot of inventors, but you go down the list and you see the guy that invented the rap. Like you you actually change the sandwich game. Yes, the people eat wraps all the time. So let's do it. Let's talk about Hank also would be on that list. Yeah. Yeah, all right. Let's talk about the rap and then we could talk about everything else. And we want to talk about you running for mayor and all that.
Starting point is 00:54:18 But the rap you invented the rap. First off, I think it's a little misnomer that I invented it because I think it creates stuff in the kitchen. So I'm not sure even though they always say I invented it. I don't think that's the case, but you know, it's a simple story. It's 1981. I'm cooking, you know, I open up a restaurant. I've been in the business for a year. The cook doesn't show up.
Starting point is 00:54:42 I go back in the line. I'm flipping hamburgers, the whole nine yards and the president of the bank that loaned me the money to open the restaurant came in and he wanted a club sandwich, which he always wanted, even though we didn't have a club sandwich on the menu. Now, a club sandwich that he wanted was always on toast. Well, this particular day, the toaster was out of order. And this particular day, we just received a big batch of ten inch
Starting point is 00:55:09 or shells from Phoenix, Arizona, because in New England, they didn't have nachos in 81. OK, that was a West Coast thing. And so we were cutting the shells and deep frying them to get the nacho and put them in our notch. Well, when he came in and asked for the club sandwich in the middle of lunch, I had about 20 hamburgers that I'm trying to test.
Starting point is 00:55:36 I said, we'll get them something. And I took a ten inch tortilla. I put all the ingredients of a club sandwich, the mayo, the whole nine yards. I rolled it up. I put cheese on the top of it. I put it underneath the salamander. I melted the cheese to hold the layer together. I took it out.
Starting point is 00:55:55 I cut it into three pieces. I sent it out to him and told the waitress Debbie Greenie at the time. Hello. This is a club sandwich, Mexican style. And he loved it. It became a favorite in the restaurant. We put it on the menu. And about four months later, my manager was on one of these little cooking stations and he was in the kitchen showing what we do in our
Starting point is 00:56:20 restaurant. And they said, do you have anything special? He says, oh, yeah, you know, we invented this new sandwich type called the wrap. Well, there were a lot of naysayers when this came out and then more naysayers when I went up to manage in Boston. So a couple of the really cool reporters up there decided that they'd get their friends at the Wall Street Journal could do a national search to find out who had a wrap sandwich on the menu
Starting point is 00:56:52 before 1981. And guess what? They couldn't find anyone and they said, I invented the wrap. You invented the wrap. That's true. I seriously like I know you, you know, Major League Manager, incredible career, successful restaurant, running for mayor. You do know, though, that like you inventing the wrap is the number one
Starting point is 00:57:16 accomplishment and it should be. And it's like Bobby Valentine. He invented the wrap. I think it's right at the top of the platform. Yeah, that and wearing a mustache and the dugout, right? Sort of things I'm known for. You know, I had an illustrious career. I really did a lot of stuff.
Starting point is 00:57:32 Yeah, I invented a wrap. Hey, you know, that restaurant, by the way, it wasn't after a successful career. That was after playing 10 years in the big leagues and I had $6,000 in the bank. And I was at a charity dinner where a guy said, hey, what are you doing? I said, I'm waiting for the phone to ring. I had played with the Seattle Mariners in 79. And he said, what if the phone doesn't ring? I said, whoa, I'm in trouble.
Starting point is 00:57:56 He says, well, you probably saved a lot of money in your career, didn't you? And I said, yeah, a little over $6,000. Now, the most I ever made was $28,000 as a player. That's for a year. And I said, well, I don't really have an option. He said, you ever think about doing a restaurant? And I said, no, he showed me this place. He said, I'll be your partner.
Starting point is 00:58:18 We could get some inexpensive financing. And this is 1979, guys. I didn't know about financing. You know what I mean? And if you wanted to borrow money from a bank, then it was 70 and a half percent. Whoa, loan shark. In this one particular area was urban renewal zone. And so the federal government was loaning money to people who wanted to invest in
Starting point is 00:58:42 the urban renewal zone. So we got cheaper money. I've got $33,000. My dad and I took down the walls and the ceilings and the floors and built the tables and the bars and even some of the chairs. And we opened up with a sports ticker, a satellite dish, which were unknown to people. I really actually think the first sports ticker in America was in Stanford, Connecticut, where you invented sports bars to invented the entire concept of
Starting point is 00:59:12 like a Buffalo Wild Wings. That credit should go to Bobby Valentine as well. No, at least full credit. Yes. And I like the fact that you said you made sure that we use the correct nomenclature, which was you created the wrap. To me, that tells me that you are the true inventor of it, because if you were just trying to take all the credit for it, you'd be like, yeah, that's me.
Starting point is 00:59:32 I invented it, but it's more of an art form in the kitchen. I'm curious how like if you go out to a restaurant and a wrap is on the menu, how quick are you to point out to your server? Like, you know, I invented that or I created that. Excuse me. I could tell you, I never did it over all of the years. I probably bought a lot of wraps and I never brought it up only because, you know, this was 1981.
Starting point is 00:59:57 It was 2012 when the Wall Street Journal did the thing. So I wasn't going to say it because people would say, oh, BS at that time. Now they'll say, oh, I'll Google that. That can't be true. Right. So I didn't want anybody calling BS on something like that. Right. So you, you brought it up wearing the fake mustache, coming back into the dugout
Starting point is 01:00:18 after you got ejected from a game, one of the all time visuals in the history of the sport of baseball, you come back in incognito in disguise, trying to blend in. Did you have the mustache ready to go because you knew that you would be ejected at some point and you were like, I'm going to pull this stunt out. Or was it just like a crime of opportunity where you walk back and you saw the the mustache in the clubhouse and you're like, you know what, this feels like a good thing to do. I wish I could take credit for that one.
Starting point is 01:00:41 I can't, you know, it was Oral Hersheiser and Robin Ventur, who were in the clubhouse after I got ejected and after I got through kicking a few of the stools, they said, hey, you got to go back out there because we had a situation where I had some new coaches in the dugout who didn't really know our team. It was extra innings. Maybe there's going to be an important managerial maneuver and they want to be out there. I said, I can't go out there guys. I can't do it.
Starting point is 01:01:07 And they said, yeah, here, put on this hat, put on these glasses. Pick off your uniform and go out there, just a t-shirt. And I did the glasses and the hat and the t-shirt. I went into the training room and I looked in the mirror to see what it would look like. And then I looked down and I saw the stems that you put underneath your eye, you know, to keep the reflection of the sun. And so I took one of them and I put it over here and I took another and I put it over here. I looked at them and Oral said, Oh, they'll never know.
Starting point is 01:01:43 With that, I went down there and cost me $10,000. In reality, they find me $10,000 in a three day suspension and I got it reduced to a $5,000 fine and a two day suspension for some ridiculous reason. So what was the fallout? Was it like, did anyone, I would assume the guys in the clubhouse liked it. What about the owners? Like, were they like, what are you doing? Why would you do this?
Starting point is 01:02:09 Well, I did it because it was a tough time in the season. I just want you to know, you guys will like this because you can Google it if you want. But like three days before, when there was a change of my coaches, I had to do a press conference at Yankee Stadium. Okay. My coaches were gone. I had to sit and take in questions and answers. And one of the questions was, why didn't you leave with your coaches and show them loyalty?
Starting point is 01:02:36 And I said, well, because they told me to stay here, turn this around so they could get a cut of the money at the end of the season when we make the playoffs. And one of the reporters said, yeah, well, what's your record going to be in the next 55 games? And I got up and I was walking out and then I stopped and I looked at him and I said, we'll go 40 and 15. And he said, what if you don't? As I was walking, I mean, it's really fun, New York press corps.
Starting point is 01:03:03 Huh? Yeah. I had no sleep, you know, the whole night with my coaches. And I looked over and I said, if we don't, I'll quit. And just because Google's out there, we went 40 and 15. There you go. And the job. Unbelievable. So everyone was all weirded out in the dugout when I got thrown out.
Starting point is 01:03:26 And so I went out for a little levy. And the guy who was the most stoic guy on the team was Don Oliver. You couldn't get him to laugh or smile. If you had a magician and a clown come in at the same time. And he was walking up to you on deck circle and he kind of looked over his shoulder and he saw me down at the end of the dugout. He stopped at his laughing and then everyone turned their head down the dugout to see what he was laughing at.
Starting point is 01:03:54 And with that, the third base camera that was over third base in the second deck zoomed down into the dugout where I was standing at the end. Busted. Narc. Yeah, that's that's unfortunate. It's almost like if everybody had just played it cool at the time, you probably would have gotten away with it. Just play it cool, guys.
Starting point is 01:04:13 Yeah. And when you're talking to Major League Baseball after the fact, I would have just told him it was funny. Come on. You have to admit that it's funny. Is that why they knocked the suspension down or the find out from 10,000 or 5,000? Because we're like, you know what?
Starting point is 01:04:26 At the end of the day, it laughs a lot. Leonard Coleman, who is the president of the National League at the time. At the time you had a president of the National League and President of the American League and the commissioner, I appealed it to him. He was a really good guy. Matter of fact, he was a friend of mine and they still play golf together. And I went in and said, Mr. President, you got to give me a break on this one. It's a tough situation.
Starting point is 01:04:50 Everyone laughed. We won the game. There was no harm done. I never put on a play. I didn't have any involvement with what went on. It was only for two innings. And he said, yeah, Bobby, I laughed when I saw it, too. But I have to be the president.
Starting point is 01:05:04 5,000 two days suspension. I like it. So so you've been you've been around the game for a long time. And it seems like the the credo of baseball is almost it's not cheating if you can get away with it or it's not cheating if they don't call it. You take every advantage that you can to win a game. And recently we've seen Major League Baseball start to crack down. Are they say they're going to crack down on some of the sticky stuff
Starting point is 01:05:27 that that pitchers have been using? Has that been something that's just been part of the game for the last 40, 50 years and now it's just coming to the forefront? Or is this like a recent development? Oh, it's it's recent and it's much more refined, right? The the sticky stuff isn't by chance. It's by trial and error to find out what works the best. And, you know, in the day, if you will, if you go back even 25 years ago,
Starting point is 01:05:55 pictures would have these gross calluses on the end of their fingers. Sometimes the calluses would break off and become a blister. And the picture wouldn't pitch for a couple of weeks until the skin grow grew back. You know, they put on new skin and and and all these things that try to get the skin to grow back. But they had the big calluses so that when their fingers were on the seam of the ball and the ball would leave their fingers, it would create more spin, huh?
Starting point is 01:06:27 Well, the smart guys got together and they said, well, I'm tired of getting blisters and and having my wife say that I have an ugly finger or two or three or whatever it is, I'm going to do it a different way. And so they get this super sticky stuff. One of the things I remember guys fooling around with was the mice paper, you know, you put in your attic and when a little mouse goes on, the oh, I'm here forever type of stuff, you know, it's forever. They started fooling around with that because you really had to have our
Starting point is 01:06:59 arm speed and really had to have it going to get the ball off. But when it came off, you created more spin. And that's where we are today. And, you know, just as far as that's concerned, why do we always have to hang our dirty laundry out in public? Why can't Major League Baseball and they have these situations like the other sports? I don't ever hear of a scandal in the other sports. You mean the I'm not going to mention any sports, but, you know,
Starting point is 01:07:30 if you could be six, five, three hundred and forty pounds and run a four or four and do it all naturally, you know, God bless you. But you don't get tested. They're not talking about a problem that they have or for anything else that people might use to enhance their performance. It's only baseball. It's all we're getting again and what a lousy image that has created. Yeah. No, I agree.
Starting point is 01:07:55 I think I think what happens with baseball is a lot of times baseball will ignore a problem until it becomes so public. And then they'll try to find one or two guys to stick it on. You know, the steroid error was very prevalent. Everyone was doing it. And then, you know, you get a couple guys that you put in front of, you know, the grand jury or whatever it was, a congressional hearing. And you say, well, this is the face of the problem, just like this one right now.
Starting point is 01:08:18 Like, hey, Garrett Cole and Trevor Bauer, the face of the problem. No, probably everyone's done it. And you guys have just ignored it for long enough that it became public. And now you've got to do something spot on. You are so exactly right. And I why I don't know me. You know, some say it's lack of leadership, but I don't I don't get it. I am tired of defending our sport.
Starting point is 01:08:43 It's a pretty good sport and not everyone cheats, but everyone tries to do things that will give them an advantage. Was it cheating? I'm not sure. You know, I used to flash signals in from second base. Heck, when I coached third base, if the catcher was, you know, showing me the sign once in a while, I had a signal with the hitter, especially the left-hand hitters who would look down and see what I was doing. I'd give them either location or pitch.
Starting point is 01:09:10 Was I cheating? I don't know if I was cheating. I think, you know, shame on them for letting me get the sign. And that's tough with the signs of the Astros. I just have to say this one real quick, because I'm not the smartest guy in the room. But if the Astros got this technology from NASA, that was going to steal these signs and relay them to the dugout on internet Wi-Fi with fiber app optics, and in a mega second, they were going to get the sign and they were going to relay it to the hitter.
Starting point is 01:09:45 Believe me, guys, they wouldn't be butt-banging on a garbage drum and give the hitter a signal. Okay. And if you want me to believe that, then you probably have some order from Property in Arizona. You want me to purchase. Wow. So let's unpack that a little bit because you can hear the garbage can being hit at certain times. Are you are you saying that they didn't cheat?
Starting point is 01:10:07 Are you saying that it's the line of thinking that it was players like Altuve that had the vibrating bandages that they were sending it in on? It was it was very high tech. It was it had to be very high tech. Guys, if if the catcher said something to the umpire during and at that, I would hear it in the opposing dugout. If the hitter went up there and made some noise that
Starting point is 01:10:36 sometimes people laugh at when it slips, I would hear it in the dugout. How could I not hear someone banging the drum when the curve ball was coming? Come on. They were banging it to the side. They probably banged it when pass balls, banged it with curve balls, banged it with sliders and you know, the opposition said, well, we can't decipher the code. So it must not be anything with the banging of the drum. Interesting. I liked it.
Starting point is 01:11:05 I liked the notion that NASA was there helping out. That just that kicks it up an extra notch. Yeah. Well, you know, and I always say that because I've heard that they were leaned on when the new administration came in to deal with a lot of the metrics, you know, the swing and the pitch, the mechanic, because they weren't doing much down there and used them. And they got some of these real smart guys to come in and evaluate
Starting point is 01:11:32 the mechanics and biomechanics of the players. They had a nice edge there. Nothing wrong with that. But I'm guessing one of the biomechanical guys came up and brought one of the IT guys up and said, hey, why don't we just relay the signals to just call it a hunch. Yeah, I would like to see maybe maybe SpaceX got involved with the Dodgers after they lost to the Astros. And then Elon Musk is now helping the Dodgers out. Maybe or, you know, one of the astronauts in that SpaceX played baseball at army.
Starting point is 01:12:06 And he might be part up there right now. Might be relaying some of the science. Let's go. We got to get you on info scores. I like where your heads at. All right. So not to bring up bad things, Bobby, but we have to address the the the Red Sox season, the chicken and beer things. I know that people who listen to the show or Red Sox fans would be like, you got to bring it up. So biggest regret from that year.
Starting point is 01:12:32 And what if you could go back and do it all again, what would you change? I would have stated ESPN. That's a good one. Yeah, that's a good answer. Yeah, they're ready to give me a multi-year contract and I was loving the job. And, you know, yeah, I get it. You know, everyone has the would of should of, you know, and regrets I have a few. I took that job like in December, you know, I usually before a season, I usually started preparing for the next season.
Starting point is 01:13:01 The day to see the previous season ended, right? I didn't even have a coaching staff. I didn't know the players. I had to fly around the country on New Year's Eve to meet guys who the front office thought I might have offended with something I said when I was doing ESPN telecast to make sure that they were going to be cool with me coming in as their manager, you know, before the season started. And then when I got there, they said,
Starting point is 01:13:29 and make sure you tell everyone you can't have beer in the clubhouse. I said, whoa, so what am I going to drink after the game? Right. I mean, are you kidding me? No one wants a cold beer better than me on a hot summer day. And they said, no, the manager has to do it. I said, it's not my responsibility. It's not my liability.
Starting point is 01:13:49 I mean, if someone drinks too much in the clubhouse after the game, goes out and runs someone over, you know, I'm not the one responsible. The person with the liquor license is responsible. I know that from being a bar owner for 40 years. So, you know, I didn't want to do that, but I came in as this super cop, which I'm not, you know. I mean, I'm anything but the guy who goes all the way over to enforce silly rules. So anyway, yeah, it started off bad.
Starting point is 01:14:22 And it was kind of OK for a little while. But then on that Patriots' Day, you know, I ride a bike every morning. And so I got up real early at five in the morning and I'm riding down that, riding over to Cambridge and down the river and across and came back about 6.30 in the morning for this 10 a.m. game, I think it is, or 11. And one of my players was waiting for me when I came back. And he was all upset about something I said the night before and he did. I said, I'm going to be on the phone for a TV interview.
Starting point is 01:14:59 Now, you got to get this. I'm sweaty. I'm in my bike stuff. It's early in the morning. And I'm going, I was, I didn't have an interview last night. What are you talking about? I wasn't on TV last night. Yeah, you were.
Starting point is 01:15:12 You were on an interview last night and you said that I wasn't playing up to my capabilities. And I said, oh, no, I don't think so. And then he left and was real upset saying that I was lying. The first tape show, which was tape Sunday before the game on Sunday, was aired on Sunday night. This is Monday morning. And I, I don't know when it was aired. I didn't know the process up in Boston. I was there for a few weeks.
Starting point is 01:15:46 You know, I just moved into an apartment. So anyway, he goes down to the club. I'll say to the guys lying to me, you guys hear what he said and all that stuff. Then I had to take it back and said, yeah, I was on TV last night. It was tape. So I would have taken that one back. Yeah. So, so the season goes on up there and like obviously a big part of being a manager, I think,
Starting point is 01:16:06 is to keep the clubhouse loose. You have so many games. It can grow a little bit tiresome. It can be monotonous over the course of the season. You want to let the guys have some fun. You want to treat them like men and let them, you know, do what they want to do at certain times in order to, you know, make sure the team stays cohesive. Do you regret?
Starting point is 01:16:23 Was there like a little bit? Was it a little bit too laissez-faire that season where at the end the storyline did become like they were drinking too much beer and they were eating too much chicken? No. Remember, I wasn't there for the chicken beer. I wasn't there that year. I came in the next year after the general manager at midnight blew the coupe and went to Chicago and the manager retired.
Starting point is 01:16:48 And I got a call while I was over in Japan partying with all my players one of our anniversary seasons. And I was at dinner. I got a phone call and I got the job offered to me. So no, I didn't even know about the chicken and beer. I knew about it from a story on ESPN that they talked about. I thought it was crazy. It was at the end of the season.
Starting point is 01:17:12 But no, I didn't know anything about it. And, you know, when you talk about being loose, that's one of the places that you actually get a little looser. Have a beer with the guys. You go over and you say, hey, what are you doing? You're all right. You know, relax. Tomorrow's another day.
Starting point is 01:17:27 Something like that. One day I tried to tell this Will Middlebrooks, who I love as a player, by the way, who took over for Euclis when Euc left, which is a real big burden on him to replace a star like Euc in that area. He made three errors in the game. And I went over to him, sat by his locker after the game. I said, hey, dude, no big deal.
Starting point is 01:17:52 I played for the Dodgers. I made three errors in the game. When I was coming off of the field, it was seat cushion night, and everybody was standing up in the second deck, and they were flying the seat cushions down, trying to hit me as I was coming off of the field. We don't even have seat cushion night here, man. You're cool.
Starting point is 01:18:12 Don't worry about it. I got the game of story that I was hitting him when I'm making three errors in a game. You know. Yeah. You know what I mean. Yeah. It can happen.
Starting point is 01:18:24 Yeah. Yeah. All right. Just speak. And if it could happen, that year, it happened. Right. Right. Where it's just kind of a, yeah, everything that could go bad goes bad.
Starting point is 01:18:34 So talking about managers, you did play at one point for a Hall of Fame manager, may he rest in peace, Tommy Lasorda, who has been on, he was on this show before he passed away, led you to the game. What was he like in his heyday when he was, you know, firing brimstone and, you know, full of it? Well, when he, when I played for him, he was really full of it. Okay.
Starting point is 01:18:58 I left Stanford, Connecticut, and as an 18-year-old, went out to Ogden, Utah. He was my rookie league manager. From there, he became my AAA manager for two years, and we went to Venezuela and the Dominican Republic during the wintertime, and we played there. He was just learning to be a manager. He was just learning how to get a free meal at every restaurant
Starting point is 01:19:19 he went into. He was just learning how close you could get to an umpire without touching him while truing a tobacco and not spitting on him. I mean, he was perfecting everything that made him a character, a character, and one of the great guys in uniform ever. My only regret is I never played for him in the major leagues, but I watched him from afar. I played against him when I was with Andres and the Mets,
Starting point is 01:19:48 and when I got to manage the All-Star game in 2001, I went to the commissioner and asked for special permission if I could have an additional coach. He had already retired. If I could have Tommy in the dugout with me so that we could say that we were in uniform one time in the major leagues, and he allowed it. But I don't know if you know that blooper film.
Starting point is 01:20:12 That's when he talked me into going out and coaching third base, and Vladimir Guerrero swung that alone away, slider let go of the back, and it went spinning with overweight old man, Tommy LaSorta, seeing it zoom in on his forehead. Yes, yes. Get him back for all. Yep.
Starting point is 01:20:33 He was standing ovation of 50 calls of people. He got up, cleaned himself up, and I swear before he went out there, he said, Tommy, you haven't been out there in a long time. It's happening quickly. These balls are coming down there. If you die when you're out there, I'll never, ever be able to live with myself.
Starting point is 01:20:53 You're not, that wasn't the first thing. Second, let me go out there, Bobby. Let me go, Tommy, believe me. It's not their place. I got to go out there. I'll get us some runs. I got to go out there. Go by the 430.
Starting point is 01:21:03 I said, all right, take it. We need some runs. First hitter, he almost died. So he's notorious as being a fiery guy. Like in the time that we met him, I think he recounted probably a dozen different stories of times that he either got into a fight with somebody or wanted to fight somebody.
Starting point is 01:21:22 Did he ever try to fight you? Because I almost feel like that's a badge of honor. That's when Tommy loves you, is when he cares enough about you to try to take a swing. He never tried to take a swing, but one day I didn't listen to him. I was playing shortstop in the bottom of the ninth, and he was going right in front of the dugout.
Starting point is 01:21:39 Bobby, move over. Bobby, move over. And I moved over about that far, you know, and the guy took a swing. Bobby, move over. I moved over about that far. Then the guy hit the ball, and he hit a slow hopper. To my right, I fielded it.
Starting point is 01:21:56 Man on third, two outs, high score, through the first, he called him safe. We lost the game. The clubhouse was in right field. He met me in the middle of the diamond as the game ended, and walked that far from my ear as I was walking to the clubhouse in right field, and he said everything about me that anybody
Starting point is 01:22:20 who really didn't like me would say about me, and he screamed it at the top of his lungs. So no, we never went to battle, but he screamed at me a lot, that's for sure. So I think you might be our first, we've been doing this for a very long time, I think you might be our first major league manager, which is crazy.
Starting point is 01:22:40 I think that's true. We just haven't been able to get major league managers on the show. So I have to ask this question, when it comes to getting kicked out of a game, what is the thought process of kicking dirt on the ump's shoes, stealing a base? Did you ever steal a base?
Starting point is 01:22:57 Like any of that stuff, you know, turning your hat backwards? Talk us through that, because that is, in my mind, and you know, watching baseball, there's a lot of funny quirks of the game, but when a manager gets tossed, there's something really special where it's like, all right, here comes a show. We really want to see him earn it.
Starting point is 01:23:13 So what was your approach when you knew, I'm going out there, I'm not coming back, I'm getting tossed. What are you going to do to toss me? Well, the real argument comes after they toss you. Sometimes they toss you just because of nuance. You know, one time I asked the umpire if I could get thrown out for what I was thinking,
Starting point is 01:23:32 and when he said no, he threw me out of the game. You know, so, and then you start, because I told him what I was thinking. Yeah, which was, I think you said, I think that your calls were terrible or something? You probably questioned his ability to work as a professional. Yeah, yeah, yeah, probably. But you're spot on, it's all theatrics.
Starting point is 01:23:55 There were times, most every time I got picked out of the game, as I was walking by, and in this, as you say, the nuances of the game, one of my players would say, why don't you go skip, you know, under his breath, or I'd wink at him as I was going by, you know, like, you know, it was a good act. Yeah. And you didn't want to waste their time
Starting point is 01:24:16 if it wasn't a good act. So you had to have your stuff together. I had a lot of practice. Yep. Yeah, I had about 24 times that I walked off the field into the clubhouse, and I got caught once coming back, and I'm, oh, we already talked about that. But did you ever, did you ever,
Starting point is 01:24:33 did you ever do the kick the dirt? I kicked the dirt. I kicked the dirt and threw the bases. I remember one time, Chuck Knoblock was given second base on a play when Todd's, we were playing this interleague series, you know, you know how tough that was. Back in 78, I mean, 98 and 97, when it was first interleague play
Starting point is 01:24:58 and the Yankees got to play the Mets, it was like the end of the world. Yes. Everything mattered with what was going on in those games. And I think it was like in the first inning, Todd Zeal was standing over at first base, and Knoblock hit a ball, and he kind of ran around Zeal, and he was out at second base by 20 feet.
Starting point is 01:25:21 And the umpire called obstruction on Todd Zeal and gave Knoblock a double. And I happened to know the rule book pretty good, and I started reciting the rule to him and saying that obstruction occurs, you point to it, the play continues. Then it's your determination, whether the obstruction, what caused the guy to be out at the next base.
Starting point is 01:25:49 If it wasn't the obstruction that caused him to be out, then he's out. If it was, then he's safe, but the play continues. He was out by 20 feet. There's no way it just running around Todd caused him to be out by that much. And so I ran in, it was first inning, right? So you could see the strides and the dirt,
Starting point is 01:26:12 the way Knoblock came around, right? And so I started running in those strides, and yelling as I was running. It was kind of the end. Footprints in the sand, like the old poem. I love it. I love all that stuff. I do always appreciate when a manager covers home with dirt,
Starting point is 01:26:32 being like, here, you clean this up. And then the ump never cleans it up. They always make the catcher clean it up. But it's always the best. That one, the minor league manager a couple years ago that did the army crawl, grabbed the rosin bag, pretended it was a grenade and threw it. I liked that one, by the way.
Starting point is 01:26:47 That was a good move. You did get kicked out once you said you got kicked out because your breath stunk. Oh, probably. At least that's what they said. You got too close to your breath stinks. You're gone. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:59 So that's always been one of my favorite. One of the big mysteries, really, of baseball, because they don't let any of the mic'd up segments come out. They let one slip a couple years ago when it was a manager yelling at the umpire. I've always wanted, when you're screaming, right in his face, do you just black out and let it fly? Do you remember what you say?
Starting point is 01:27:15 Do you have a rehearsed speech that you give into him? Are you guys just like screaming every word that you can think of into each other's mouths? Okay, that's interesting because LaSorta was the master. And I saw him do it in the minor leagues when you could stay out there for 15 minutes, if you want to. And he was spectacular. And he had a way of putting adjectives and adverbs
Starting point is 01:27:42 every other word, you know, with you. It was the pronoun that the adjective was the, right? You can cast on the show. You motherfucker is probably what he was saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. So I learned from him and I had a kind of a straight intro that always got me going. You know, like, how the fuck could you call that?
Starting point is 01:28:08 And then, or what the fuck were you thinking by calling that? Yeah, yeah. Just like a prompt for your brain to get started. And then you recognize it in the motor. Yeah, very cool. I also read, this is kind of interesting. You were being considered to be the ambassador to Japan from the United States a few years ago.
Starting point is 01:28:28 Is that true? No, I don't think so. You know, that was reported. And just so we know, this was the time when Chris Christie was handling the transition team at the White House. And a friend of mine, Anthony Scaramucci, was dealing to be the press secretary.
Starting point is 01:28:53 And during that week, I had received the Rising Sun Award from the Emperor of Japan for building bridges between our two countries. Not only when I was the baseball manager, but afterwards, and when the tsunami hit, I raised hundreds of thousands of dollars to help refurbish fields that were destroyed. I brought teams over to play and all that stuff.
Starting point is 01:29:22 And so Anthony was invited to the ceremony, but he was in DC. And while he was in DC, he said something about the award and said, wouldn't he be a great ambassador? He builds bridges. The next thing I know, I got a call from some reporter who says,
Starting point is 01:29:44 I hear you being mentioned as an ambassador. I said, maybe I'm going to be mentioned, but I have nothing to do with that. That's a pay grade a little above mine. Yeah. All right. So here's another one. You saw a UFO once.
Starting point is 01:30:00 Hadn't we all? I believe UFOs. I wish I had. They definitely exist, yes. So you saw one during a press conference, though. Yeah. And we stopped at Chase Stadium. And everyone looked.
Starting point is 01:30:10 Everyone pointed. I said to the press, did you see that? And two or three of the guys said they did. And then I was pretty sure I took a wonderful 17-day excursion down the Colorado River through the Grand Canyon in a Dory boat. A five-person boat with one horse and all that camped out at night and had a wonderful time.
Starting point is 01:30:32 Well, the stars are plentiful. And you can see all the satellites that are circling the Earth very clearly. There was one thing that I saw there. It wasn't a star. It wasn't the moon. And it wasn't a satellite. So I think there's stuff up there.
Starting point is 01:30:47 Yeah. Because I was going to say, the one at Chase Stadium, I don't want to tell you what you did or didn't see, but that is next to LaGuardia Airport. So it could have been a plane. It could have been a plane, but it was at dusk. It wasn't nighttime, you know? And it wasn't really high in the sky.
Starting point is 01:31:04 But who knows? Yeah, but I might have been one of those days where they were asking me why I made the pitching change. And I might have wanted to distract them. Yeah, that's a great distraction. But I believe the Colorado River one. That's for sure. All right, so let's talk real quick.
Starting point is 01:31:18 You're running for mayor. I watched your ad. I loved it. I do want to work on your campaign. You're running unaffiliated, correct? I am. So it's all about the people of Stanford. What are we going to do?
Starting point is 01:31:30 I saw you walk across that bridge. I'm a literal learner. So I liked that you were walking across a bridge talking about fixing that bridge. And I was like, I see it. I see his vision because you're on the bridge that you need to fix. So what made you get into this?
Starting point is 01:31:45 What made you, you know, a lot of people don't want to be in the public eye like this and be in politics. What made you think like, hey, this is a good idea. Let's do it. It's my hometown number one. It's been really good to me. You know, I was always treated like the special son
Starting point is 01:32:01 of this town. And now that I'm going to have had a place where I've had 50 years of experience in five different countries, leading people, changing things, fixing things, making things better when I left, I said, why wouldn't I want to lead one of the finest little cities in America in the right direction going into the next year
Starting point is 01:32:26 and out of COVID, you know? I saw a lot of similarities from 9-11 and how we dealt with fear and uncertainty and how we thought we'd never get back on track again, you know? And I think I had a lot to do with some of the healing process. And I think there's a lot of people who need to be healed.
Starting point is 01:32:51 There are businesses that need to be healed. There are children who lost the year's education or part of it, and they need to be healed. You know, we have a growing city, but it's growing apart in all of the different sectors of our city. And as that bridge kind of symbolized, I think I could build the bridges that unite the city. Who knows if that's going to work?
Starting point is 01:33:14 And doing it unaffiliated, that means I have no party support, no party money, no party, you know, IT or data or any of that other stuff. But I have a really great team that I'm building. And I want to see, because I am a team builder, if I could build a team that can win an election and then build a team that runs a great city. I like that.
Starting point is 01:33:37 And then build a team of all the citizens of Stanford together, working together, keeping them loose too over the course of the year. I think you've got the right temperament for it. Some of the best leaders I've ever had have been maybe my second, third grade teachers. I remember they'd reward us with pizza parties if we all read, you know, we did all our reading
Starting point is 01:33:55 or whatever. What if you did, maybe you promised everyone, if you pick up X amount of trash in our city parks over the course of one weekend, we're doing a pizza party from Colony Grill. Everybody gets to eat. I love it. And I think Chris Jury would love it too,
Starting point is 01:34:08 because instead of paying all those dollars, he's the owner, you know, Colony Pizza or one of the owners that we'd give them some of the money back. And, you know, there's a lot of private and public partnerships that have to be established for a city of 135,000 to grow the way I see it needing to grow. And one of those things when you talk about pizza parties,
Starting point is 01:34:31 the people who work in the city, right, they make a salary, whether they're in uniform or out of uniform, but they're public servants. A lot of people have decided that this is what they want to do with their time, their energy and their life. And I don't think they're rewarded enough. I don't think that they're thanked enough. I don't think that there's enough parties
Starting point is 01:34:53 that celebrate their hard work. And I'm hoping that I could have those little gatherings and go to the offices that people sit in for eight hours a day with dim lights and old computers. And so I might appreciate them. So follow up question on Colony Grill. Hot oil, are you Stinger guy? What's your order there?
Starting point is 01:35:14 I'm a Stinger. I like hot oil. Yes. You know, and, you know, I remember Colony, Daniel Malloy was a mayor of this city and then a governor of our state. And I'm pretty sure I campaigned with him at Colony Grill you know, 40 years ago or whatever it was.
Starting point is 01:35:33 It's a great, it's a great place. Yes, it's some of my favorite pizza ever. A little hypothetical here. If you had to pick one of the two small businesses that you personally had to close down, would it be Colony Grill or the Dan Patrick show? Well, luckily Dan Patrick's up at Milford out of my driveway. There we go.
Starting point is 01:35:51 I was going to say, I was trying to figure out a way to work in, you know, a little WWE because that is in Stanford. I think, did they move their headquarters yet? I don't know if they did across the street, maybe. They're going to the UBS building where we had a vacancy there and they're a great partner, a great company to be in our city. You know, Linda McMahon was a trustee at Sacred Heart University and, you know, her daughter Stephanie and husband.
Starting point is 01:36:21 The whole family have been credits to our community and their business is awesome. Yes. And so I was thinking like, I know they were billed out of Greenwich street, Greenwich Connecticut, but the Mean Street Posse, maybe we bring them back. Joey Abbs, Pete Gasp.
Starting point is 01:36:35 Joey Abbs, how come you know so much? Absolutely. I used to love attitude there wrestling. Wow. Yeah, we bring those guys. Well, someone highly up in your company lives in New Canaan. I think you guys should film right out of the village or one of our cool spaces, new media centers right here
Starting point is 01:36:53 in Stanford, Connecticut. So I think that would really part in my take. Yeah. Oh, I like that. It's a good idea. Like how Joe Rogan and everybody's moving to Austin, you make stamp for the Austin of Connecticut. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:06 Get a bunch of podcasters to move in. We'll do it. Yeah. Why not? Just drop the bag off, Bobby. We'll do it every day. Can I use that as an original thought or can I say? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:15 I'll just know. I'll say that I heard it part of my take. We are here. I get full credit. It's cool. I'm down to appear in an ad if you buy us Colony Grill. Like we will come up and we will sit there and we'll be like, we endorse this message
Starting point is 01:37:30 because we got pizza. Yeah. Well, maybe that Chris is now president of the Rangers. Maybe he needs someone to pass the baton to. Yeah. Listen, we will be your unofficial. We're just ideas, guys. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:43 Don't ask us to follow through on it. The ideas, guys. Keep them coming. Inventor of the Rap on every ad. All right. So I had one last question. Okay. Last question.
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Starting point is 01:38:15 This one's kind of random, but you have a collection of every World Series program. Is that correct? Since 1912? Almost. Yeah, I have 1905. I missed 1909. But I have 1912, which interestingly enough
Starting point is 01:38:34 was one of the first ones I collected. And that was the first Boston Red Sox World Series. And 100 years later, in 2012, I was managing the Red Sox. So I have that program too. That's cool. So even though we weren't in the World Series. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:50 So like you have all these, I mean, that's a really cool thing to have. Which one's your favorite? What's your specific favorite World Series program? Well, I have a 1927 Yankee World Series program with a Babe Ruth autograph on it. And I think it gets the most ooze and odds when I'm welcoming people around the house.
Starting point is 01:39:14 Absolutely. It's one of my favorites. Absolutely. I have a 69 Met one that has everyone's signature on it. That's pretty cool. Wow. That's awesome. I had one last, last question.
Starting point is 01:39:25 I still remember watching commercials for the Zen of Bobby V, the movie that was made about you. It was in some major film festivals. Do you remember when that came out? Did you get like a little bump in notoriety? Do you still enjoy watching that movie? Or is it one of those things where you watch a movie about yourself and it's like a little cringy?
Starting point is 01:39:45 Because you know, no one likes to sound of their own voice. You can be a little bit more judgmental of yourself on camera. I was judgmental, but can I give you a quick backstory? We have a minute. Yeah. Yeah. So three college seniors from NYU, they were juniors when they approached me.
Starting point is 01:40:05 Said, we want to come to Japan. You're doing great things over there. We want to follow you with a camera and do a documentary. And I said, yeah, yeah, get your education and then come and see me again. Well, at the end of the year, they came and see me again at my restaurant in Stanford during the off season. And they said, hey, we did this documentary last year.
Starting point is 01:40:22 We moved in an old age home down in Florida. We were there for three months with all these people. And we did a wonderful documentary. Take a look. If you like it, maybe we could do it. Well, they get $800,000 from ESPN to travel around with me in the team for the entire season in Japan and make this film, which is or was the first documentary
Starting point is 01:40:47 that ESPN ever filmed, the Xenobabi V. And then they said, whoa, people like this stuff and started doing more. Just to fast forward, one of the three, as he graduated, we started a little film company. He says, hey, I could do this. I could do this. And so that was in 2007.
Starting point is 01:41:08 And it debuted at the Tribeca Film Festival. And the three guys graduated from NYU the next day. It showed on May 13th was my birthday. They graduated on May 14th, kind of cool. But what's more cool is the same guy just was with Bill Murray for months in Europe and filmed a documentary about him with four Philharmonic string concert performers,
Starting point is 01:41:43 where he recited poetry, sang songs, and made a documentary. It just got awarded the selection into the Cams Film Festival in France. And they're going to go there and hope to win an award. And then he gets on a plane and goes to Bangkok, where he is a co-producer of a film with Peter Farley, called The Greatest Beer Run Ever. So he's done really well.
Starting point is 01:42:13 And it all started with the Xenobabi V. Love it. Love it. Well, Bobby, this has been awesome. So much fun. We really appreciate it. We have to get together, have some colony pizza. Also, you've got to make us a wrap.
Starting point is 01:42:26 Please. Yeah, inventor of the wrap. That's just you've got to have that on every time you run an ad at the end. Just be like, oh, yeah. And I invented the wrap just to remind people. So let's just do that. I'm going to work the rap into something.
Starting point is 01:42:39 OK, perfect. Yeah, it could even just be you sitting at a diner. And it's like the ad starts. And it's like, oh, didn't see you there. Just enjoying my wrap. Or if you want to get to the literal metaphor thing that you're doing with the bridge, sandwiches are great.
Starting point is 01:42:57 A triple-decker sandwich is good. But the bread, it divides the layers, Bobby. And a wrap brings them all together all in the same vessel. Yeah. Yeah, that's what we've got to do. We've got to wrap up Stanford. Point. Yes.
Starting point is 01:43:11 Yeah. We got you. We got you. We got all that ideas. We'll get together. We'll have a brainstorming session. Well, I understand why you guys are so popular. You do a great job.
Starting point is 01:43:21 I appreciate it, guys. All right. Thanks so much, Bobby. Thank you. Yeah, thank you. Bobby Valentine was brought to you by our good friends over at Omaha Steaks. We love Omaha Steaks.
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Starting point is 01:45:17 Let's do some segments. By the way, breaking moves. It has been brought to my attention that we need to say something for our friends in Rado, Colorado. Rado is what the cool people say. I didn't put this together, but someone just mentioned this to me. Colorado just did the unimaginable.
Starting point is 01:45:44 They just lost eight straight playoff games in the course of two weeks. Wow. And the fight. And the fight. The Avalanche were up 2-0 and then they lost four straight. And in the midst of those four straight losses, the Nuggets got swept.
Starting point is 01:45:58 That's actually yikes. That's a Rado curse. Like to not have two teams deep in the playoffs and not have a fucking win in two weeks. You know what this is because it's the bargain with the devil that you have to make in order to get Aaron Rodgers traded to your city. Yes.
Starting point is 01:46:16 Good point. Really good point. I'm going to match up these schedules real quick. Let's see when they exactly happen. Because that is, man, I love Menver. Yeah. I love Menver. I'm a Fort Collins guy.
Starting point is 01:46:32 I like that guy that goes on the detective shows and talks about how he caught people 40 years ago. No, I love Menver. I think it's a great city. I've had some fun times. I went to a Rockies game. Unbelievable stadium. Unbelievable stadium.
Starting point is 01:46:47 Jake, can you find it for me while I do this? Tell me exactly when the Avalanche started their four losses and when the Nuggets started their four losses. I also think it's a curse on the Nuggets for just wearing shitty uniforms. Yeah. Tonight, the one they wore tonight, they wore against the Blazers. That uniform.
Starting point is 01:47:06 And if you're the Nuggets, you have so many cool imagery and colors that you can use. And you go with that. Gunpowder red, I think is what it's called. They had a sunset on their jerseys while they were playing against the Suns. They did the same thing where they wore basically the Trail Blazers colors against the Trail Blazers.
Starting point is 01:47:25 Suns were seventh, ninth, 11th, and today, Avalanche 4th, 6th, 8th, 10th. So since the 4th. On the 4th, from the 4th till today, they lost eight straight playoff games. It's 10 days. That's really, really tough. Okay. So pour one out for our friends in Rado.
Starting point is 01:47:49 We appreciate you as AWLs. We are going to celebrate when Aaron Rodgers goes to the Broncos. The mountains are blue. We will celebrate for days when Aaron Rodgers. We will call it Rado Week. When Aaron Rodgers gets traded to the Broncos. All right.
Starting point is 01:48:05 Couple segments. Let's do some talking soccer. So the Euro started one of the craziest, scariest stories on Saturday when, let me get the facts correct. What is this full name? Christian. Christian Erickson, right?
Starting point is 01:48:24 Playing for? Denmark. Denmark against Finland collapsed. He actually like went into cardiac arrest. They were able to, I think the, I think a Finnish player, the story goes, started CPR. So what I heard was he was struggling to run at the last couple of steps.
Starting point is 01:48:43 And then they were throwing the ball in. He collapses into the ball. Right. As he threw him, goes face down. They immediately call over the medics. I don't know if he started giving them CPR, but they got the medics out there like real quick. The trainers were there in a matter of like five seconds.
Starting point is 01:48:57 The medics were not long after that. He was dead on the field. Yeah. He was dead. His heart stopped. Nikki Six. Yes. And they, they put the defibrillator on him
Starting point is 01:49:06 and they shocked him and then gave him CPR to keep his heart going. So yeah, they brought him back from the dead. It was, it was a brutal scene. Crazy. The, the Danish players. Yes. Danish.
Starting point is 01:49:18 Yeah. Surrounded him in order so that people couldn't take, take pictures or like film him on the ground in case he was dead. And so they were like trying to protect him in their way that they could do in that. They take him to the hospital. They call the game off,
Starting point is 01:49:30 which was probably the right thing to do. And then football guy, football guy, Christian Erickson, gets on a zoom call with them, starts jacking up. No, he tells them, I want you guys to play the game. Yeah. Then they went out there and played. Unfortunately they lost, but it was one of those things where you were watching the game
Starting point is 01:49:47 and you could tell that nobody on the field like was thinking about the game whatsoever. They basically just watched their captain die in front of them. Crazy. It was insane. So thankfully he's okay, but it did bring out. We talked about this a little bit before we started taping.
Starting point is 01:50:01 It brought out some of our least favorite people on Twitter. Yes. Who were, everyone was mad. What everyone was, uh, was upset watching the game because they just saw somebody maybe die. Right. And they chose to take that anger out on the broadcast of the game because the broadcast was coming in from UEFA
Starting point is 01:50:19 and UEFA's cameraman like, dude, just be a normal camera guy and find a hot chick in the stands. Like every other horny camera guy in the world are actually the appropriate thing would be just like cut to the blimp feed or whatever that is. But they were showing like the players they were zooming in on Christian Erickson's wife in the stands who just thought she saw her husband die.
Starting point is 01:50:39 And it was brutal. It was immediately or admittedly brutal to watch, but everyone was like mad at ESPN for making them watch this. And it's like you, I get that you're mad and I get that like you're upset about what you're watching right now. But you do have like there's a button in your hand on your remote. Right. That actually controls your own television that you can turn on.
Starting point is 01:50:58 And what it comes down to is people are on social media to get, uh, retweets and likes. And of course we're, I mean, always all of us sitting in this room are guilty of this. The, but, but in a situation like this, they like just tweeting, I hope this guy is okay, won't get you the most retweets. So what does having an adjacent conversation to it where you're just mad at it, you know, like you're mad at someone
Starting point is 01:51:24 who didn't have anything to do with the ESPN, but you're just yelling about, you know, how they did this wrong. When everything happens really fast, it's fucking crazy. It was a scary situation. I wasn't watching the game. I saw that he was, you know, awake on a stretcher going off. And, and I've said this million times before, but to read the room, people are the worst people in the world
Starting point is 01:51:45 because I still can't for the life of me understand how being affected by something and then spending that time immediately after replying to other people to read the room is like you showing your, your lack of room, reading your abilities. Yeah. Well, you're just, you're, you're giving the proper like credence to the moment by just replying to people saying, read the room. Yeah. Like you are, you're clearly thinking about Christian Erickson by, by sitting on Twitter and replying to people, read the room.
Starting point is 01:52:15 Just maybe a moment of silence for, maybe just don't tweet anything for a while. You don't have to tweet when you watch a guy die on television. Again, I wasn't watching. I saw that he was like, I've caught up. I saw it was scary. I saw that he was on a stretcher like awake. I saw that they said he was okay. I retweeted that one and then I moved on with my date because I wasn't watching.
Starting point is 01:52:35 Like I wasn't going to jump in and be like, oh my God, just saw this thing. Let me get my take off on. Right. You don't have to tweet a video and be like block or charge. Yeah. Right. Right. But thank God, let me say this though. I hope that Christian Erickson is okay. It seems like he is, but he lives a long life to the point where in 50 years he, that him collapsing can be put accidentally in a watch these soccer guys flop compilation.
Starting point is 01:53:04 Yeah. That would be the greatest thing to get to. We can get to a point where we can laugh at it. No, not even laugh at it, but just someone accidentally be like, oh, watch this flop. Not realizing because he lives such a fruitful life that it became such a side note to everything else. Yeah. If it ends up in one of those like soccer versus hockey compilations. Right. Right. Because it's not a story. Right. That would be the best way for this to end is that, you know,
Starting point is 01:53:29 he lives a great life and nothing serious ends up coming out of this. It's tough. I'm glad he's okay. I guess that's a relative term because he's probably not going to play soccer again. No. It's probably like a genetic heart issue that he has. Who knows what it was because we're not doctors. They got to do the tests and all that. What did Dr. Chow say? Probably two to three weeks?
Starting point is 01:53:49 Walk it off. I've seen a lot of these. Yeah. Do you think anybody tagged pro football doc in that? Probably. I need it off table. Probably. Christian. Oh my God. Either way, heroes are here, which is awesome.
Starting point is 01:54:04 Next time, next time, Darren Ravel puts out the JFK video. I'm going to tag Dr. Chow. Yeah. What do you think? When's the timetable? Yeah. Do you think he'll be ready for the playoffs? The the heroes are awesome. I'm very, very excited.
Starting point is 01:54:17 It's such a great tournament. It really is. And it's it's yeah. Another who's back in the week, North Macedonia. Yeah, who knows? North Macedonia played in their first international, like major international tournament, I think, got a goal. They just changed their name to North Macedonia.
Starting point is 01:54:32 I went down a little Wikipedia wormhole on that when I was like, what's North Macedonia? What were they before? Turns out, Greece has just basically been taking the name Macedonia hostage and not letting them call themselves Macedonia for years and years and years. And they finally reached like a bargaining agreement where Greece was like, OK, you can call yourselves Macedonia,
Starting point is 01:54:53 but it has to be North Macedonia. Wow. And they got they got a goal, which was huge. There are people like crying in the stands because of how much this meant for their country to see the little engine that could. Wait, Ireland didn't make this shit. But North Macedonia did. Mm hmm.
Starting point is 01:55:09 The fuck I'm saying about the euros. It's coming home. Yeah, it's coming home. They saw those those guys. Something just very special about pasty white English fans ripping off their shirts and being like, oh, dude, get that sun shirt back on fast. Yeah, they're the best.
Starting point is 01:55:25 You're about to burn. They're the best. I also just like saying it's coming home. Yeah, it's a fun thing to say. You remember in the world a couple of years ago when they had a flyover of jets in England that just spelled out in the air. It's coming home. It's coming home.
Starting point is 01:55:41 Football's coming home. And then they're going to lose in like tragic fashion. Oh, yeah. Can Argentina get into this? No, they're playing in the other copa. They would have beaten England in a tragic fashion. I feel like this is going to be penalty kicks in the semifinals. England's going to lose.
Starting point is 01:55:57 Against Belgium. That could happen. Yeah. Belgium beats England. I can see that. Penalty kicks. Wait. Or maybe Denmark.
Starting point is 01:56:09 Team of Destiny. Yeah, yeah. Although they probably won't get out of their group, right? Not with that Christian Erickson. Yeah, that's probably going to be tough. OK. I had a joke and I didn't say it. No, it's because you read the room.
Starting point is 01:56:22 I read the fucking room. You read the fucking room. People out there listening to that pregnant pause, you can figure out what I almost said. Read the fucking room. All I'm saying is it's a tough group, Denmark's in. Do you think that there were... Now, this is really going to get dark for a second.
Starting point is 01:56:39 Jake just got it. Yeah. Do you think that there were people on Twitter who were mad that he was OK because they couldn't spend the rest of their day shaming other people? I swear to God, I think that that happens. Maybe, yeah. Like, he was OK so quickly that we had to...
Starting point is 01:56:57 We moved on with our day and all the people who spent, you know, a half hour grandstanding. We're like, well, what the fuck do I do with my Saturday now? Let's get a little bit darker with it, but, Kat, those are the exact same people that log off for the rest of the weekend when there's a mass shooter that doesn't fit their political ideology of what a mass shooter is.
Starting point is 01:57:16 Yes. And then they're like, I'm just going to ignore this. Yes. Yes, I'm just going to keep moving. All right, let's talk some tennis. The goat, Joe Kovic. Who's going to... Who can I pick on here?
Starting point is 01:57:28 Is it you, Jake? Can I pick on you? For what? First thing that Joe Kovic isn't the goat? He has 19 majors. I want someone I can pick on. Roger and Rafa. During that whole coronavirus thing, you kind of fell off.
Starting point is 01:57:42 No, no, no, no, no. He had an unvaccinated party. Oh, shit. That was a tournament. It was fine. It was a tournament. Yeah, it was just fine. It was a super spreader event.
Starting point is 01:57:51 I remember you saying that. Dude, I mean, I also fell off when he was down to Rafa on Friday. I was like, Clay's a fake thing to play. I mean, was it the same day, Rizzo and Joe Kovic? No, I actually tweeted that. People got very mad. I said, Rizzo and Joe Kovic, have a day. My guys are awesome.
Starting point is 01:58:07 Yeah. Yes. Big guy, how could you? Honestly, perfect. Yeah, he is the mental toughness. To win on the clay, be down 2-0. Yeah, two sets to love to Stefano Cicipas. Who's the next up-and-comer, right?
Starting point is 01:58:23 How do you say his name? Cicipas. Cicipas? Cicipas. Yeah. Cicipas. I love it when Joe Kovic gets just like angry at the sky. All around him.
Starting point is 01:58:31 And he just starts screaming. If something is, if there's an object around him, he will yell at it. And he just uses that to draw off their energy. And he acquires the energy of whoever he's mad at. And it was honestly like a great comeback. I love watching Clay Court Tennis. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:45 It's great. Yeah, and I love having Joe Kovic be my goat, even though I watch maybe an hour and a half of Tennessee a year. I'm a Federer guy still. Federer still has a crown. It's tough. Yeah, he and Rafa. Do you guys see the semi-final on Friday between Rafa and Joe Kovic?
Starting point is 01:59:03 Yeah, I did. It was sick. Because I'm a Joe Kovic guy. When I say, yeah, I did. I watched the last 10 minutes. It was 11 p.m. local time. And because they said, do the exceptionalness of the match, Kervi's been lifted.
Starting point is 01:59:13 Yeah. That was always the best growing up when there was like a really good game on. And my dad would be like, honey, let's just let the boy stay up and watch the end of this game. He's got to watch the sports. He'll be tired for a work tomorrow. But this is a great game.
Starting point is 01:59:24 Yeah. The tennis yet, I really have no affinity towards Joe Kovic. I have affinity towards the debate. And the greatness, but the debate. I mean, that's what makes me interested in tennis is that I like to debate it. And also, I saw that he gave his racket to a kid. And I noted that has there ever been a classier competitor
Starting point is 01:59:47 than Joe Kovic? No. A lot of people said, actually, he's a real dickhead. All I saw was him making a kid's life. Well, big cat, with the exception of like once or twice, he has never tried to kill a line judge. Right. So who else can you say that about in the game?
Starting point is 02:00:02 Serena Williams has done it too. It's like truly a mark of the grace. But when he hands the racket to the kid in the stands, a conspiracy theorist would say, maybe there's something on that racket that he is trying to keep away from the frying eyes of the press or of the officials. And what better way than because nobody's going to go into the stands and take away
Starting point is 02:00:22 the greatest present of that kid's life. He was freaking out. Love it. Classy, classy, classy competitor. He would have been just as classy in defeat if he had lost. But he wouldn't. Absolutely.
Starting point is 02:00:31 This is the goat. And I would imagine. So but I do think that we can still, right now, the debate is still like Federer is the goat. Federer and Robert. Yeah, but Joe Kovic is going to pass it. He could die tomorrow. Kyle Shanahan.
Starting point is 02:00:46 Read the word, dude. Nothing's promised. Erickson almost died. Nothing's promised. God. Once he equalizes with Federer and Dahl, I think at that point it's like, yeah, Joe Kovic is a goat.
Starting point is 02:00:57 And head to head, he's dominated both of them, right? Yeah. And there's obviously the argument that he came in at the end of their careers. I don't care. Guess what? No one's going to remember that 10 years when we just go numbers on everyone's ass.
Starting point is 02:01:09 As Joe Kovic wins Wimbledon, and we'll have a three-way tie at 20, heading into the US Open here in New York end of the summer. And I still won't care about it. I'll go. I reported on it two summers ago. Yeah, let us know how it goes.
Starting point is 02:01:19 I'll go back. Yeah, right. We're going to put you on assignment. Jake, great. Would you like to be a ball boy? Yes. I'm too old. What?
Starting point is 02:01:28 I think. Maybe. I don't think so. I think they do try out. No, there's six months in a row. No, Joe Kovic almost killed like... You could do it. Also, Joe Kovic almost killed like an old lady
Starting point is 02:01:36 when he hit that ball at her. Yeah, so they're going to need replacements in case Joe Kovic just goes ham. Yeah. All right, well, you should be a ball boy. All right, we'll see. Let's try to get you in that. What if Joe Kovic killed Jake,
Starting point is 02:01:49 like, hit a ball at him and just knocked him out? I played king of the court in the suit that summer. We would make everyone log off for at least 25 minutes. A while. If you died, if you died, well. Oh, now there'd be some good memes. We would just repurpose that shirt and just write was. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:05 Yeah. Yeah. That's enough. I'm trying to think, would we take... No, we wouldn't take a show off. If you died, I would take a lunch off. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:12 Hank would just... We'd make some shirts. Hank would schedule a million ping pong matches. Duh. Hey, guys, Sewel Shrew's back, ping pong tournament. Oh, I actually had Jake scheduled for later on this week. Don't die, Jake. We love you.
Starting point is 02:02:25 We don't want you to die, okay? No, don't die. Please don't die. But if you do die, Hank will be the benefactor of all your... It's his birthday. Yeah, it's his birthday. Which is the next segment? Happy birthday, Hank.
Starting point is 02:02:36 Happy birthday, Hank. Thanks, guys. Really proud of you. Appreciate it. I'm proud of you not taking a vacation on your birthday. Yeah. That's big. I feel like that's a major corner that we've turned.
Starting point is 02:02:45 28? I've never taken a vacation on my birthday. I don't even really take vacations. I just take time off when we have time off, but... Wait, you're 28? 28. How old were you when you took... No, it's not.
Starting point is 02:02:56 How old were you when you taped the Tom and Shae video? 19? Yeah. Damn. Time flies. Dude, when you turn 30, I'm going to cry. What's the biggest thing that you've learned in your 20s, Hank? Sheesh.
Starting point is 02:03:11 I don't know. Okay, that was very eloquent. I'm trying to think of a little... I'll put you on the spot. It's not really fair. You learned how to pronounce several words. You learned how to ice a dog boner. Yep.
Starting point is 02:03:23 Save a little money for each paycheck. There it is for Bitcoin, right? Yeah, or whatever. Yeah, for whatever. Just set up in your direct deposit. A little bit of money goes away. You don't even think about it. That is...
Starting point is 02:03:35 That's actually great advice. Then when you need it, you actually have a little bit of cash. That is great advice. You have a 401K? Yup. Start early, get that compound interest. How? You max that?
Starting point is 02:03:46 I don't think so, no. You got a max, bro. Shout out, Max. Actually, no, I don't think we match, so... No, we don't. Yeah, so then don't max. Yeah, I would have... If you match, if they match, you max.
Starting point is 02:03:59 That's what you got to do with your 401K. All right, that was great. Segment, have a birthday, Hank. Thanks. I appreciate everything you guys got for me today. I appreciate everything you guys got for me today. We got you milkshakes. We got you milkshakes.
Starting point is 02:04:11 Papadillas, 26 of them? True. Yo, he should have got 28 for his birthday. Oh, fuck. And then you could have that. You actually could have played it off, instead of being like, I just ordered 26 because of a fat ass. You know what, I'm not even gonna respond to that
Starting point is 02:04:28 because it's his birthday. That's just mean. I'm gonna let him just say that to me. I think you got 26. I'm gonna let him say that. What do you want me to say? I did feel a little awkward when they had to have two guys help bring them all to my car.
Starting point is 02:04:39 That felt a little like, all right, maybe I went too far here. Yeah, when you said, like, how many should I get? 20? I thought you were joking. And then you showed up at 26. I have a, listen, I'm a great guy to have around when it comes to like, going out to dinner or like, planning for a party
Starting point is 02:04:55 because I'm, my biggest fear in life is not having enough for everyone. So I'm the guy who like, will show up with, I'll fill the bathtub with beer. Be like, well, just in case it becomes a rager. And then the next morning we have like 200 beers in the bathtub, but we never had to worry. No one's ever complained about having too many papadillas.
Starting point is 02:05:15 Right, ever. Ever. Well, Hank did. But that's no, he's the first. Quick saber metrics before we wrap up. Yeah. So Julio Jones, he's wearing number two in Tennessee. I'm still not, I'm still not comfortable on a personal level.
Starting point is 02:05:27 No. With wide receivers wearing single digits. He's going to fuck my brain up this fall. It's absolutely going to ravage my brain between that and having a 17 game season where I have to memorize like, oh, this seems going to go nine and eight. That is though, March madness. We got that fix.
Starting point is 02:05:42 Yeah. Also you can, what I'm doing is I'm just doing regular numbers and then adding a tie on to the end of it. That way my brain saves itself. But Julio Jones is wearing number two. And he said that AJ Brown offered him the number 11 that he wore in Atlanta. He declined. Julio Jones said one in one is two.
Starting point is 02:06:00 And two times 11, which is brown, is 22, which is Derek Henry. He said that lets people know that they have to deal with all three. Whoa. Whoa. Mind blown. Holy shit. Mind blown. Or he just misses Matt Ryan.
Starting point is 02:06:13 I think he just wanted, I think he thought two would look cool. And then he put it on and you know that there was like a moment of truth when he saw himself in the mirror. He was ready to like feel good about his new look where he looked at and he was like, this looks stupid. This sucks. This sucks. Number two is, I'd say like maybe six is the only number
Starting point is 02:06:33 that's worse for a wide receiver to wear. Two is a long, well, no, it's not even a long snapper, but it's like, it's, yeah. It's a bad kicker. It's a bad, and it's a slow quarterback. Yeah. Although what was, no, Kim, he was always one. Devonte Smith is a six. He, Devonte Smith is a six.
Starting point is 02:06:47 Now, that's dumb, Devonte. Although, no, it'll be good for him because he's going to look fatter. And he weighs what, 165 pounds? On a good day. He's six with the Eagles too. He's six with the Eagles. All right, I'm going to pick six for him. I'm going 18 with eight.
Starting point is 02:07:07 85. 67, 9247 out of play. Someone got mad about 13, not counting the pass to go all the way up. That's without the video. 33. Larry B. First timer. Really?
Starting point is 02:07:24 How many do we have that have not been picked? I updated my pyramid chart like three weeks ago and there was still like 30. So it's probably like 27, 28. Can I get a statistical breakdown, please, to add it to my list? Of that? Yeah, just everything. I want to know everything. How many we picked?
Starting point is 02:07:40 For that one. Yeah, how many? I don't think you keep track of our picks though. Put that up. No, I'll get you. Keep track of this. No, no, no, no. How many, how many total like lottery things have we done?
Starting point is 02:07:51 Okay. So we can get like the hundredth and every, we've probably done the hundredth. So we've got, what, you said 28 left? 20 score Gommys left? I'll put that at the top of my list, please. Clear the rest of my list. You'll have it. Put that at the top.
Starting point is 02:08:03 I think self stock has to go first. No, put that. This is the most important. Me staring at a sheet of numbers for 25 seconds tomorrow has to happen. You'll have it by tomorrow. Oh, wow. You're the best. All right.
Starting point is 02:08:15 See you guys on Wednesday. God, great guests coming up. Great, great, great guests coming up. Love you guys. Oh, Jake, you have a fact? Yeah. Animal. Animal.
Starting point is 02:08:27 Alligators have been a long running problem for NASA, including climbing over their fences and entering buildings overnight. What? Very cool, Jake. Love you guys. I'll be coming for your love, I'll be coming for your love, I'll be coming for your love, I'll be coming for your love, I'll be coming for your love, I'll be coming for your love, I'll be coming for your love, I'll be coming for your love, I'll be coming for your love, I'll be coming for your love, I'll be coming for your love, I'll be coming for your love, I'll be coming for your love, I'll be coming for your love, I'll be coming for your love, I'll be coming for your love, I'll be coming for your love, I'll be coming for your love, I'll be coming for your love, I'll be coming for your love, I'll be coming for your love, I'll be coming for your love, I'll be coming for your love, I'll be coming for your love, I'll be coming for your love, I'll be coming for your love, I'll be coming for your love, I'll be coming for your love I won't change anything but peace dome in your way threading this wings liking there's no better to be safe than sadness
Starting point is 02:09:44 there's no better to be safe than sorrow there's no better to be safe than sorrow you can't leave you can't leave I'll be gone in a day or two I hope things let me say yes in life Just to blame a lonely look You all things I've got to remember
Starting point is 02:10:31 When you're shying away I'll be coming for you anyway Take me, take me on I'll be gone in a day I'll be gone in a day I'll be gone in a day

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