Pardon My Take - Gary Payton + JR Smith's Ultimate Fuck Up

Episode Date: June 1, 2018

JR Smith cost the Cavs a victory in a stunning Game 1 of the NBA Finals. Lebron was dominant, Draymond tried to fight everyone, and Javale McGee gave a perfect 4 minutes of basketball (2:20 - 11:35). Cleaning up the remnants of the Bryan Colangelo burner account mess (11:35 - 14:28). The Caps won Game 2 and are looking strong going into Saturday night's Game 3 in Washington (14:28 - 22:34). NBA Hall of Famer Gary Payton joins the show to talk about coaching in the Big 3, his best trash talking moments, why he thinks John Stockton is the GOAT, and some trash talking with the guys (22:34 - 49:15). Segments include Take Quake for Colin Cowherd suggesting Lebron might retire after this year, Bad Sports Town the Warriors didn't sell out Game 1, Kickers Psychiatrist's couch for Yu Darvish, Are the Patriots fun to play for Update, Thoughts and Prayers to Hue Jackson, and explain it to hank. You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Text it. I was about to say text it. All right. Rabbit, rabbit. Three, two, one, welcome to pardon my take, presented by SeekGeek. Today is Friday, June 1st, and what the fuck were you doing JR Smith? The highest man in America made the highest play of all time. Well, yeah.

I mean, at least JR Smith, we know he doesn't have any short-term memory, so he'll quickly forget this. This was so, so bad. He forgot the score. So if you didn't, if you live under a rock and you weren't watching the NBA Finals, LeBron basically willed the calves to what seemed like an improbable game one victory down to George Hill having two free throws to put them ahead, misses the second, JR Smith rebounds it and just starts running around expecting to be fouled, and he never got fouled because

the game was tied. Well, what it looked like to me was when you're playing like two on two, three on three, you gotta take it back. Clear it. He was taking it back. He was checking the ball back behind the three point line, and then he looked around, and then he was like, oh shit, I guess I gotta shoot. I personally thought that he was just taking it so he could shoot at three.

Right. At first, when I saw him sprint back there, I was like, that would be classic JR Smith. And then the look that LeBron gave JR Smith afterwards, if looks could kill, he actually, here's, it's kind of making sense to me. The reason why LeBron insisted on getting Kendrick Perkins on a squad was just for this type of situation, I fully expect Kendrick Perkins to kill JR Smith. But I don't, JR Smith is like the one guy that I think LeBron, he's mad right now. He's not mad.

He's disappointed. Well, you can't stay mad at JR. He's like a puppy. He's just like, oh man, JR, we talked about this, you have to actually read the scoreboard every now and then. I mean, you have to know what's going on in the game when the game is going on. JR Smith, and it's so perfect because it's both the most JR Smith play of all time and the least JR Smith play of all time, because when he, the calves needed him to shoot, he

didn't shoot. The guy who never stopped shooting, who is always has the green light, who always thinks he's one shot away from being wet, didn't shoot. Right. So I would say that the Cavaliers lost this game. The Warriors did not win it. So it's still 0-0. Yeah.

0-0. And LeBron James continues his awful streak of playing really poorly in game ones. He only had 51 points. But in overtime. Yeah. He needed overtime to go to 50. He didn't get his 50 burger. He didn't get his 50 burger in regulation.

This game though, like anyone who, I know there was the narrative the last three days, Warriors Cavs again, this sucks, blah, blah, blah. This game was so entertaining before the JR Smith play. It had so much. It was so like, it was highly played. It was great game. The Warriors kept on feeling like they were about to take it away and the Cavs just never quit.

You had Draymond poking LeBron's eye out and then calling him a fucking pussy. Which was like pure Draymond. Draymond actually hitting a three. He hit one. Yeah. He became the LeBron stopper for two possessions and then ran out of gas and got stuffed by the ramp. Have you noticed that the Warriors are like the worst team in the NBA at dunking?

So between like him and Draymond, they always get, I think it's because Steve Kerr, I don't think Steve Kerr's ever touched a rim in his life. Yeah. So he can't coach dunking. That's the one part that he can't teach the guys about LeBron's eye. It was pretty nasty. It was pretty nasty. It looked like he had pink eye.

He looked like he was about to die. It looked like he had been making out with Gabby Union. He showed up with shorts on, looking like Angus Young. It was a terrible look. The whole game. I liked those shorts. Shorts are back. Ruin shorts.

JR Smith looked like he put Clay Thompson out of the whole entire game and we had JR Smith versus Swaggy P for about five minutes. This game had it all and you had Steph Curry, buzzer beater. I'm excited for this series. I don't know if the Cavs, how do you bounce back from a game like that? I don't think that you can. I mean, Ty Loo is going to try to give a motivational speech and no one's going to listen to him. Like Ty's going to come in having like the best speech ever written and no one's going

to give a shit. They're just all going to keep their headphones on and be like, Ty's talking, I don't have to listen. It's going to be a huge LeBron sighing in people's ears for the next three days. Just walking around the practice, just being like, LeBron James, the only way he can get over this is if you break Zero Dark 20 or Zero Dark 23, Zero Dark 30, 23. There's too many numbers. It's tricky, but it's maybe the greatest time of the year.

It's a prequel of Zero Dark 30. Yeah, it's military, but then LeBron inserts himself. So Stolen Valor. Stolen Valor. Well, that makes sense. I have a sneaky little narrative that's starting to bubble up. You ready for this? So we've long been tracking Steph Curry's mouth guard antics, where he chews on just

one little end. I think he actually has one side of his mouth guard much longer than the other so he can just chew on that and make it hang out more. It's like a dog toy where there's a rope and then there's something that they can grab onto on the other end. The narrative I'm watching now, he's got a little rival and his rival is Kyle Korver. Kyle Korver's mouth guard, his antics, actually I like him a little bit more because he wears the all-white mouth guard.

So it looks like he's just got buck teeth, like a little beaver, just sticking out his mouth the whole time. I like Kyle Korver. This entire playoffs, Kyle Korver, there's no in between. It's either Kyle Korver makes a ton of threes and it's like, damn, Kyle Korver should play more. Or Kyle Korver comes in and fouls someone in the act of shooting a three-pointer. I think he's done that probably 45 times in these playoffs and someone says, oh my god,

Kyle Korver, you can't have that foul. Well, the other play that he does is he gets dunked on too. That happens from time to time. So, I mean, I don't know what, like this game was incredible. It's all around it out of this game. The perfect series stays like this because without it, Andrea Guadala, the Warriors are definitely vulnerable because they don't have the bench and LeBron is LeBron. I mean, LeBron at this point, like you can hate him.

I obviously will never get off the MJ's The Goat platform, but if you're sitting and watching LeBron and not being like, this is incredible, everything he does, then you're not a sports fan. Even his teammates do it. Right. His teammates are, most of the time, they're just standing around like in awe, just watching LeBron James. If you watch them collect like a loose ball at the offensive side of the court, they look

around like if you take your dog to a dog park and your dog forgets where you are and it panics for a second. It looks around like trying to find its owner. I love doing that. I love doing that. Just like hiding from your dog. You see how much your dog loves you. Yeah, it's great.

But that's exactly how the Cavaliers react when they get an offensive rebound. They're like, where's LeBron? Oh, shit, where's LeBron? Why am I touching the ball? I'm going to get in trouble. Yeah, dribbles around like... That's the alternative. Yeah, we don't need any more points.

We're good. We're good on points today. When your dog just, you're expecting it to look for you and it just runs in the corner and eats another dog's shit that's on the ground. Hank, thoughts on this game? Disgusting. Hank actually said that the Cavs are going to win. So he was feeling good about that.

The Cavs almost blew the cover. Jared Smith saved the cover. It washes. Yeah, you're kind of redeemed, dude. Pretty good game for him. I had 12.5-2 and once overtime started and they hit those, I think they got up by six real quick and I was like, I know what's going to happen, I'm going to lose this. If you could have live bet that game, like you put a million dollars, like you don't

recover a JR Smith, just hit the bong and dribbled around when the game is tied with five seconds left moment. There's no recovery from that. None whatsoever. They're going to get swept. No, I don't think they're going to get swept. Because I think the Warriors, they are the ultimate millennial team. They get bored.

That's right. Yeah. They'll be bored next game. They'll be like, we're good. But the Cavs are, like their team is not coming back from that play. Well, there are like five days between this game and next game. Just watching that replay over and over and over and over and over again. You know what?

And you know JR Smith isn't the type of person to apologize. Here's the thing though. What you're not factoring in, Hank, is Skip Bayless has turned on the Warriors. He said that he doesn't like their front running showboating style when they win games. Dreymon does, Dreymon went like maybe 0 for 45 on threes up until the last two he made. And he, Dreymon is very quick to do the flex and yell when he, when he gets his like six point of the game with two, with, with 90 seconds left. You think?

Like, oh man, look at me. I'm Dreymon. I'm doing it. I just, I just scored as much as Javel McGee did in two possessions. Um, all right. So game two is Sunday night. The, you know what's crazy is JR Smith, like people forget JR Smith threw a bowl of soup at someone this year.

Yeah. That was this year. Yeah. Well, that was like last week. Now, like maybe he needs to bring that back and just kind of soup. Yeah. Just, just throw some soup at, at himself. Well, he, hey guys, stand up in front of the lunch hall and just be like, Hey guys,

I'm sorry for that. I'm going to dump like hot chicken noodle soup on my face. Well, he should because he actually played himself. He's the one guy in America that probably cared more than anyone else about the Taco Bell free taco giveaway. Oh, I did. If Hank did. Yeah.

But I mean, JR Smith obviously likes to get Taco Bell. Yes. And he cost America and himself a free taco by not winning that road game. It's brutal. It's sad. Brutal. Um, we have, before we get Stanley cut, we have to clean up the Brian Colangelo story. So it turns out his wife is the one who's been tweeting from the Brenner account.

His wife and him though. I think he had some part of it. He has won the Eric Jr. account that is like the famous one where the collar one, which by the way, I don't know if you've seen any pictures of him, the dude wears outrageously large collars. Yeah. It makes sense. Cause you, you, we said this on Wednesday, like, you know, how the hell did this happen?

By the way, if you listened to Wednesday show and you didn't hear the update, you can go listen to the update. Cause we did a rapid reaction of that and Drake and push a T, but it all kind of comes back to his wife probably dresses him and everyone was making fun of his huge collars. And she's like, you know what? I can't stand for this. I'm making a burner. They're, they're Italian cuts because she, I think she's an Italian lady.

Yeah. And she would assume that. I think she is Italian. Yeah. But she also was, her burner accounts were the ones that were like hitting on dudes and being like, Oh, I wish you could, I wish you could marry my daughter. Yeah. Will you please have sex with my daughter?

That sort of thing. Yeah. Joan B takes a shirt off. Winky face. Yeah. Yeah. I think I'm done with collars. I'm wearing a collar right now, but the more I think about it, the more I think about

it. Well, the option was this or sleeveless. And I know that we videotaped. Let the guns fly. Yeah. I'm not trying to intimidate you over here. Okay. You do have something in your teeth that's intimidating me a different way.

That's okay. The cameras can't pick that up. Bad radio. Get the smile so you can get it out of your teeth. You know what's in my teeth? It's that one. Yep. Up a little.

It's a fucking take. Up a little. I know we're not going to explain to Hangshap, but smile. Got it. Yep. Got it. Bad radio. So PFTs weren't a collared shirt, right?

But you still have a collar on your shirt. True. Why is that? How's that possible? Where does collar start? Yeah. What constitutes a collar? You actually never get to a collar because you can only get, you have to get halfway

to a collar first and then you have to get another halfway there. All shirts are collar shirts. Well, no. What if we made collarless shirts? Could you do that? You're just talking about a belt. No. Just a belt.

No, I'm just talking about a bra. I think. A sports bra. That doesn't have a collar. Tube top. Yeah. Guys should be able to wear tube tops. Dude tops.

Yeah. So what happens with Brian Colangelo? He's got to get fired. Yeah. You got to fire him. You got to fire him. Either that or his wife has to give a press conference in an outrageously large woman's collar and be like, I'm sorry for what I've done.

That would, that actually, if I'm a Philly fan, we can wash our hands of the whole thing if she does that. She gets in front of the world and like just, just like a Pee Wee Herman size collar. It's like, Hey guys, my bad. Joellen B, not bad. I fucked up. Do the Jim Calhoun. I fucked up.

Took a Mecca Oklahoma and Caron Butler. All right. So we're going to talk about Stanley Cup. Yeah, let's do it. We're going to talk about how the Washington capitals are Washington capitals are a team of destiny. Yes. I was worried.

I was worried at the start of the game. Well, I'm going to imagine dragon steps on the ice like, what else, what other emotion can you have? True. Besides just like really fucking pumped up. But I have a couple of things to say first, like real hockey talk, I'm, I'm a little bit nervous about Kuznetsov because it would be a big miss that like besides a veteran, he's the one guy.

Yeah. I also want to give credit to us for motivating Holtby to make that save by mentioning Gruber's name. Yeah. And just kind of chirping them a little bit. Some people are calling for Gruber. I did like that save as well because with a great save in hockey, you get the, that's actually a routine save.

Truthers. Yeah. And that's my favorite part about the internet. Actually, that was, that was just what he was taught when he was, you know, a kid. That was, that was a fundamental save. He should make that. It happens all the time in rec league. It was a very good save.

Very good. I'll put it this way though. It was also the luckiest save that I've ever seen. Yeah. Because he didn't lift the puck. You have to lift the puck. You have to play. The guy was showboating a little bit.

He, he like almost followed through on a shot before even hit the puck. Maybe it was soupy ice. Very. Well, imagine, imagine dragons probably melted it because they were too hot. Yeah. And all the, the pregame, the 45, like the pregame in Vegas actually has become like part, like it's equal parts as fun as the game. I guess that sounds like I got to make sure I get home for the Vegas pregame.

See what they got up their sleeves this time. Are you guys pals with the magic dragons now? We are. What started out as just two mighty Titans and enemies going at each other evolved into a friendship through roasting. Let's just say, let's just say I may or may not have slid in the DMs. Yeah. So basically I chirped imagine dragons a little bit.

I did not tag them because I don't want, I don't want to get into a fight with imagine dragons. In name search. I'm losing that 10 times out of 10. The name search and they were like, Hey, well, what I said about them was there's a reason push a T has never come out of imagine dragons is because they're so goddamn intimidating. And then they were like, Hey, you can come at us all you want, but please don't bring push a T into this because they rightfully so are afraid that push a T will make fun

of their dying friend or whatever. So then we went back and forth. I wrote a song. I wrote an imagine dragon song for them, recorded it, sent it to them, and then they came over the top and they called me post Malone. And I got to take my hat off. I got to take my thorny crown face tattoo off to them as post Malone. Tip the cap.

But new friendship, new friendship, new friendship, new friendship, new friendship, eye dragons coming into the coming to the studio. New friendship coming. Let's just say new friendship. It's coming. New friendship. But as far as hockey goes, I'm pretty confident. What was that?

What was that noise? That was your coach over at voice. Yeah. New friendship. New friendship. Go. New friendship. But you guys are confident too, right?

Oh, yeah. Like caps got this. They're just stronger. Stronger. Like, I feel strength when I watch the Capitals. I don't know. I can't really explain it. It's usually because I got my pants off, but I feel some strength.

You know what I mean? Like, they're just fast and strong. Big boys. Yeah. They're just good. I'm good. That's just how I feel when they were playing. Like, you can't fucking beat us.

Caps. Everyone knows it. Here come the caps. No one beats the caps. Yeah. Exactly. That's how I feel. It's going to be lit on Saturday night at the...

Capital One. Capital One. MCI Center. USA Arena. Okay. Bank Arena, presented by Capital One. WorldCom. The Enron.

The Enron. Because Enron still got to cut up maybe a patio in the... Yeah. WorldCom and Enron had a lot of synergy going on there for a while. It's just called the Fraud House. Yeah. The Fraud House. Yeah.

It's going to be lit. Because... I'd like... Do you feel it right now? Can you feel what I'm feeling? Like the Capitals. They're fucking strong. They're fucking strong.

They're fucking strong. They're wagons. Like, they're just going through people. The Capitals are now wagons. Yeah. That 15-to-1 ticket. Let's fucking go. Shit.

Someone stole it. Hank, like... I made you laugh. Jesus Christ. Hank actually... Hank has been talking... Hank has been getting into what seems like a bigger and bigger hole, all knowing that like...

The Capitals are going to win. I'm just becoming a bigger and bigger Capitals fan. The more I watch, the more I feel like a sense of pride with them. That's all it is. All class with that organization. If the 15-to-1 Capitals Stanley Cup ticket was a house, Hank had already done his like sixth mortgage. And he took out a line of credit on his kid's name.

This thing has to fucking hit, Frank. I just also want to throw one more thing in there. It's kind of weird that Imagine Dragons and the Golden Knights have such like a loving relationship because when you think about knights, the only thing that I think about when I think about knights is them killing dragons. Yeah. That and... When I imagine dragons...

That and Monty Python. When I imagine dragons, I think about a knight killing them. Yes. So, are they frauds? It seems like they're fighting against themselves. That doesn't work out. Who is the famous Washington band or fans? Is maybe Dave Grohl going to show up?

Dave Grohl is overseas. Okay. So he's not going to be there. There's a guy that's really good at playing go-go on buckets that like plays outside. I can see Mike Wilbon showing up in a Blackhawks sweater and a Cap's shirt or a hat. No. He's on record saying that DC is a clown sports town because we got so excited when we beat the penguins.

Who's... So who rings the bell? Is that a bell? No, we don't have a bell. Like who's... What's the warm-up thing? Gilbert Arenas? Yeah, Gilbert Arenas fires a gun into Javar's Crittenden's Fort.

I'm just like, I need something. Vegas is bringing the noise. You need to... I think they got Wayne Newton up their sleeve for game five. So you need some... I think what they do, they bring out like Ruth Bader Ginsburg to centerize and she just falls asleep. And then whenever she passes out, they roll her off.

They don't even wheel her off. They just roll her and just like, hey, you know what, actually, this might be good for her brain to get the temperature below 85 degrees for a second. Oh, you know what I'm really looking forward to? A Vechkin visiting the White House. That's going to be nice. Putin's definitely... Do you think Putin will be his plus one?

Yeah, you kidding me? That's in his contract. Do you think Putin just gets a Vechkin's ring? Yes. Well, I think... We might be getting ahead of ourselves. Yeah, we're getting ahead of ourselves. Counter chickens.

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He's a head coach. He's coaching the three headed monsters for the second straight year with Richard Lewis and Reggie Evans and Damon Wilkins. Let's start with that. Okay. So the big three is coming back. It's going to be a broadcast on FS one and Fox and it's starting and it's starting soon. Now as a head coach, you played for some really good head coaches.

Who do you model your head coaching game after George Carl? You know, Phil Jackson, Pat Riley, George Carl again with the, the Bucks version, George Carl. Who, who do you most model your game after? Well, being around all, all three of the great ones, the great coaches are really, you know, I've been with, I was with George Carl for a long period of time. So I have to model my, my coaching after him, you know, he, he brought, he brought defense to us.

He brought intensity to us and that's what I bring to the big three and our team. Everybody didn't think that we were going to be as good as we were last year and we made it to the championship and only lost by what two or three points in the championship, which was a bad call at the end. So we're trying to, well, you know, I'm just basically going off of George Carl because I think George Carl is the guy who, who started my career, who made my career, what it was. And then, you know, now I'm trying to take it to another level and take that to the, to the big three, especially where Richard Lewis, he plays with George Carl, you know,

and a lot of us. So we're trying to just go back to George Carl day. I heard you bring up that. Maybe there was a missed call at the end of the championship game and you were kind of famous for your trash talk on the court. Have you, have you carried that over into being a coach or you chirp in the refs or you give them a little bit of shit? Always.

I give them always a lot of shit. So, you know, that's what I wanted the referees probably didn't make the call that then we made a bad call against us because I was killing them all year, all year long. So it's good. I'm glad to, I'm, I'm waiting for it just to get us to get back and just at the same referee because he's going to get it even worse this year. There you go. Now you are your number three on the all time list of technical fouls to those carryover

in the big three, like you're in striking distance of Rashid Wallace. And I don't know if you know who the second person is that's how do you, you know, Robin and I thought Jerry Sloan might have been in front of you too, which was surprising to me. Yeah. Jerry Sloan probably wasn't a player. I don't know. I don't know.

But I thought it was Rashid, Dennis and myself. So you know, I love Jerry Sloan as when he was a coach and when he was with Utah and then he coached me and up in the Olympics and he's just like me. He's spicy. I'm going to do the same thing in the big three. They don't give me a lot of text. I think ice cube tell him not to give me a lot of text, but this year I'm going to get a lot of text with that referee that made that bad call against me and made me lose

championship. Do you think you can make the ref cry because your trash talking is, I mean, you're, you're on the Mount Rushmore of trash talkers in the NBA and you've, you've basically made people either cry or hurt feelings. Do you think you can make this ref cry this season? Well, I'm going to try to, I'm going to try to get on his nerve. They're, they're going to probably not put him against me, uh, make him let him referee in a lot of my games.

Cause the first game he did, I'm going to be on him so tough. I might get kicked out of the game, out of the game by him, but he's going to really, really get it. And if he's that sensitive, that's where I want him to be. I want him to be real sensitive because he's going to learn what he did to me last year. Wasn't fair. Who was the best guy to trash talk back to you when you were playing in the NBA? Larry Bird.

Um, I only played against him two years, but he was really good. Uh, Michael Jordan was good. I think Reggie Miller probably to take the cake because Reggie was, was, was the, probably the one and go at me more. He had come back at me a little bit. You know, Mike would, would do the same thing, but you know, me and him was really, really, you know, kind of really, really after each other. And me and Reggie were more like friends and brothers, like, and then doing the

chattering, but I think he would be the one we chattered the most at me because he knew, you know, we didn't talk before the games and things like that. We played in the, in the, in the pack team against each other. There, so me and him had more fun going back at each other. What, what was, um, you're welcome to the NBA. Michael Jordan kind of welcomed you to the NBA with your trash talking. Didn't he, your rookie year? Yes, he did, you know, and, and that taught me a lesson right there.

And that taught me that you got to be ready to do anything that you want to do. You know, college was a lot different. I didn't have a basketball player that can come at me like that. But, uh, Michael Jordan did. He was a veteran. He had been in the lead almost, uh, what, about five or six years. And yeah, no, he, he welcomed me. You know, he had to let me know what a rookie was, you know, and that's what I

appreciate. I appreciate things like that. He just made me better. So what happened with that? You were, you were talking trash during the preseason and he wasn't even playing in the game and then he waited. Well, tell that story. Well, during the preseason, I didn't know when they came to preseason that, you

know, they didn't play a lot of minutes. So, uh, that game, I, you know, I had just got into, I had held out for a little bit and we had played in the first three seasons and I was getting a lot of minutes and they wanted to get me in shape. And, uh, I had like 19 on Chicago and, and he wasn't even really playing. And I was talking a lot of trash. And then when the first game came, we had to play them in the first game of the season.

And when the first game came, he was still, he got on the floor. He told everybody pimpin' and everybody, um, Armstrong, B.J. Armstrong, and he said, I got the rips, nobody guard him. And they got, he got about three quick files on me in the first two, three minutes and then I sat for almost the rest of the game, only played about 12 minutes and he had like 35 and they, and they blew us out. How we, that is welcome to the NBA. How would you go about, uh, trash talking to LeBron James?

If you had to, if you had to pick a place to start with him, you talk about his hair or you talk about, um, uh, how he drinks too much wine and he's always hungover. What do you do? What do you zero in on? No, I wouldn't ever go at LeBron like that. When a guy like that is just what you try to do is a lot of people like, you do it like Draymond tried to do.

Draymond tried to get underneath his skin and go at him and, and, and, and, and try to pick at things and getting the blow up. But LeBron is pretty good at achieving his composure with a lot of these players because that's what they try to do. They try to get under his skin. You know, you, you have to say whatever. I know Draymond is, is gets in his face and telling him to get, get that shit out of here and, and I'm gonna tell him to stay in your ass and stuff like that.

But with that kid, that kid is pretty good at not listening. He reminds me of, of when I played against John Stockton and I tried to do the same thing and John Stockton always overlooked me. And that was a big problem for me because he never paid attention. And with LeBron, I see that in him all the time, because a lot of the guys get attention, he, he tries to come back some time and knock the door off and then, you know, you know, they get, you know, they get to the referees and stuff like that, but he does a great job of not paying attention to trash talks.

That's interesting. So yes. So you, I actually read a quote once that you had John Stockton as the hardest guy to guard. So if we did like the LeBron versus MJ goat thing, your answer would be John Stockton, right? Right. Is that simply because he would not engage in trash talk with you?

Because I feel like that's the motive of the best trash talkers is they just want to see you like react. They want to see you get a rise out of you. And John Stockton wouldn't do any of that. Right. And that was one of the reasons and the other reason is that if a guy got the ball 90% of the time and he's very effective and I mean effective being when, when he only takes 10 shots, he makes eight.

When he only, he just shoots nine free throws, he makes eight. Then he has 17 assists and then he has four steals. We have six rebounds and then you look up on a scoreboard and he has 20 something points, 15 assists, four, four steals and six rebounds. That's a hell of a game. And you only play 32 minutes or 34 minutes and you have to continue to be around him because he's going to be around the ball. He's going to steal the ball.

He's going to pick you in your back. He's going to throw passes him and calm along with going through the picking rows. That's tiring for a guy to do that all night long and try to continue to guard him. And you can't take 30, none of the 34 minutes off against him because he's going to be so effective. Now I've heard that, uh, that you and Allen Iverson had a few beers one night and that you told Allen Iverson that he should stop practicing and then

he went out like the next day and gave that press conference where he said, I don't need to practice. Is that true? No, that's not true. That's not, that wasn't the conversation. We were, we were out and we were on a vacation and, uh, he asked me a question of, you know, how do I keep my body the way I keep it? And how do I play so many minutes when I was playing?

And I told him that I don't practice a lot. And, uh, it went from there. You know, I'm saying, uh, you know, it's not, it wasn't like that. I think whether we're now was making a statement and making a thing that he was really saying that we're talking about practice when, you know, my quality minutes are doing basketball games because I play so much, so many minutes. And that's all he was saying, you know, and people took it to another level of talking about why is he, why are we talking about practice?

I would have said the same thing. Why are you talking about practice when my ability to play every night and play 42 and 43 minutes and don't be heard and do things that I do. Why wouldn't you, you know, talk about that? You know, and then that's what Allen was really, really talking about. And they just really took him to another meeting. You know, during that time, Allen was, was a guy of making trends, the dreads, the tattoos, uh, the jerseys and stuff like that.

So they had to pick on somebody. And so as a coach, now you're kind of on the other side of that equation. How do you, how do you handle practice from the other side? So what I do now is, well, you know, kids nowadays, man, and young guys nowadays, they don't want to practice. So what you do is you try to get in there and be effective in what you need to do, you know, you put in some plays, you get, you get a, a team priorities, commodity, and then you do what you have to do.

I don't want them to be in there that long. I mean, an hour, hour and a half, hour and 15 minutes is good. As long as you're getting something out of it, productive, they're getting shots up, they're doing what they have to do and they're learning what they have to learn. I'm okay with that. Okay. So, um, do you, so you played in the 96 finals against the best team of all time.

Do you take a little pride in that being like, Oh yeah, we actually lost to the best team of all time. Well, I don't think they were the best team of all time. I think we pretty bad. We was pretty damn good. I got them so people didn't understand that. I mean, we went, we had one, uh, what they want 72. We won was 64.

It was, I think it was the high at the time. It was the highest two winning, you know, wins total of a finals matchup ever. Right. And then everybody don't understand. I mean, y'all guys say that because they want six championships, but I think they found a team. We won zero, five years in a row, five years in a row. So, you know, you would do, you would say that, but I think that, you know,

there's a lot of, there's been a lot of great basketball teams. And we're always going to say Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippenette was the greatest, but it's always, always good teams too. When so, but they were dominating in the nineties and that's just the way it went. Do you think Seattle's going to get basketball back soon? I think so. I think it's like 2021 or 2020 is going to happen. I know we, we've just got to prove for, uh, uh, arena to get, we get done.

We've got a hockey team coming in there. Uh, that's all with the NBA wants the NBA, uh, and with our great, with our great commissioner now, Adam Silver, where, where he's trying to get us back into, you know, to the phonics and, and, and being with the Seattle, I think he's going to let us have opportunities to do that. I like it. I like it. Are you part of the group that's bringing it back?

I've been, I've been, um, associated with them talking to a lot. I've been talking to them a lot. And, uh, you know, um, once it comes back, I think I'm going to be a part of it. And, and then we're going to have some, we're going to bring basketball back there. We're going to bring tradition back when I have a lot of guys that come back like that, like Sean, like Sam Perkins, Hershey Hawkins, guys like that. You know, we're going to want them guys to come back so the fans can see them. And we get that tradition back and get them to remember when the 90s was

happening, how we had key arena. So jumping, we're going to have the same thing going on when they see how the Superstar can get back. I like it. I like that idea a lot. I want to jump back to some on the course stuff real quick. You were, you know, one of the best defenders, uh, probably in the history of the NBA, I'm curious to know how you would go about defending who we think is

probably the league's weirdest player, but a great player, James Harden. Uh, he, you know, he does all this weird stuff, like the Euro steps all over the place, jumps into you, draws a lot of fouls. How would you go about trying to shut him down if you were defending him? Well, now what you said, what you, how you guys that understand is that basketball has changed. It's not like when we play, we were more fiscal. We could put our hands on guys, uh, all the jumping into everybody and all

the files going towards all kinds of player. That's not how that wasn't happening in our era. We, we had a chance when I played Michael Jordan, the referees gave me a chance to guard Michael Jordan. They wouldn't belly him out with, with stuffing and things like that. Nowadays in this era, you, first of all, you, you would, you were a great player and a great score. You can't stop them.

All you got to do is try to contain them and then sometimes hope that they have a bad game with him. You would have to just try to pressure him and make him feel uncomfortable all the time. If you can make him feel uncomfortable without filing, you're doing a great job. But if you don't make him feel uncomfortable and he's getting files on you and he's getting to the free throw line, which he's a great free throw shooter, you're not going to win that, win that battle, but you could, you can, if you

can contain him and make him take tough shots and then you don't get silly files against him, letting him go underneath your arm and letting him get the threes when he jump up and you're trying to guard him in a referee's belly mouth. I think if you don't do that, you have a good chance of kind of contain him. Mm hmm. I mean, it's a totally different game. If you watch 90s basketball, just even the team, you know, passing into the

post on every possession, that doesn't happen anymore. It's all perimeter game, three point shots. I mean, it was a shocker when, when teams would shoot a bunch of threes in the mid nineties. Yeah. I mean, we didn't do that because we went through our big man, our big guy. So our big guy created our offense. Now these days you write the three point shot is a weapon.

And that's what they do. That's what soda state in Houston does. That's why this is going to be a great series today because the simple fact is that they are going to shoot the basketball and whoever mess up first and whoever doesn't play defense is going to lose his series. But if they're going to shoot back and forth, they both got weapons to do that. And it's nowadays, that's what they do. You get a two, I'm going to get a three.

I'm going to come down and score in two seconds when you get a two. And then we're going to see who wins this game. But with our in the nineties, we'll go through Shaq, we'll go through Patrick you want to, we'll go through Elijah, we'll go through David Robinson, make them double down if they didn't double them to them for guys or them big men. They're going to dominate the game. And then when they got, when they get double, they kick it into us and we're kicking it and then we'll make the wide over shot.

It makes the game a lot easier. So you mentioned Shaq. I had, I was always curious. You were on the Lakers team. You actually were the only one who played all 82 games on that Lakers team with Carmelone, Kobe and Shaq. When everyone thought that you guys were going to win a ring. And that was kind of the, the pistons year where they came out of nowhere.

Did you, that was the end of the Lakers, Kobe and Shaq Lakers. Did you see that coming? Did you see, you know, locker room tension every single day between Shaq and Kobe, did you see that relationship strained? Well, it wasn't, it wasn't every day that was, it was, it was Kobe and Shaq. That's false. So because that wasn't happening, you guys got to understand that Kobe was going through a situation that he had got in trouble.

So that wasn't even the case. You know, some, some days Kobe wasn't there because he was in court. You know, so we didn't have a team that was all ready together. When he went down and he got in trouble that summer and came back. That started, that started a lot of commotion with us. People didn't know that Shaq was having a, a, a feud with Dr. Bush. That was another problem.

The Shaq and Kobe few wasn't nothing. They just escalated because people wanted to make it escalate. And then we got called, called Malone who got hurt, who was our key point, our key opponent during that time for us to be good. Because he ran the whole, the whole triangle situation and he had everybody rolling and he was like our, our big father, like our big brother. He controlled everything before he got hurt. We were 18 and two or 18 and three or something like that.

And then he got hurt. And then it all went down because everybody started not playing. Shaq didn't play 50 something games. Kobe didn't play 40 something games and call them as 62. So it was a situation where we were even lucky to get into the championship. We had a good little cast where Phil Jackson coached us to a situation where we played and we played and we waited until they got back. And then during the playoffs, we took a runoff and we beat San Antonio, who was

the number one team that year. And then in the conference, which we were supposed to be, but we were going through a lot of difficult situations and we just so happened, got everything together and we lucked up and got into the championship. So you mentioned a lot of great players that you played with over, over the years, who was your favorite player to play with? Like, who was your buddy? Not far, Sean Kemp.

And then I got to push Shaq as the next. The two guys were great. Sean, we started a relationship since we were young, uh, since 8990. We started a relationship. We still got a great relationship. Shaq, the same way that we started a relationship while we in a league. That's the reason I came to the Lakers. That's where the reason I came to the Miami heat is because of him and, and we

still got a great relationship now. So them two are probably the best two guys I ever played with. Have you ever seen Shaq's feet? They're really weird. You know, I use the YSC and see a lot. You know, I played with him for, for four years. So I was in the lipids with him. So yeah, you know, have you seen the tic, tic, tic, timbo feet?

So that ain't, that's the worst. Yeah. Yeah, true. And LeBron's feet are gross as well. Um, you, you, like you just said, the, you know, late 80s, early 90s, Seattle was kind of like the center of the world there for a second. Are you a Pearl Jam or a Nirvana guy? Pearl Jam.

Okay. That was my good answer. Yes. Good answer. Good answer. That I mean, did you get into the grunge error? Cause that was right when you got, when the Sonics were coming up and you guys, you know, had a really young, exciting team.

Right. And they were there. They were there after they were at, they were at the games all the time. So the whole thing, we would go to a lot of the concerts. There come a lot of our games. There come a lot of our functions. We, we, we built a, a good relationship. Me and Sean did with the whole crew.

Nice. Nice. I love that's great. Were you, uh, were you pissed off that Sean Bradley got invited to be in Space Jam and you didn't? I didn't care about that. All that crap is nothing. That ain't nothing but a movie.

Look what happened there. We looked at what happened. We looked at what happened in my career and look what happened here. Yeah. The Monsters stole his talent. I like that you're just trash talking, Sean Bradley. Like he's completely an innocent bystander right now, but you just trash talk the shit out of him right there.

I just jumped on Sean. Yeah. Just out of, out of like pure, like knee jerk reaction. Like, you know what? Fuck that guy. Um, do you, do you think that it's bullshit that Lance Stevenson gets credit for blowing in LeBron's ear when you actually came up with that move? Well, you know what?

Lance is one of my young guys that I really, really like. He's, he's a talented kid. He's, he's a guy who would get under his kid and then as you say, I really don't care about that. You know what I'm saying? Long as these kids, if that's what they're going to get on the map with and do it and be successful with it, I'm not against none of that. You know what I mean?

If he gets on the map port, I really don't care about that. You got to think about them kids grew up watching us. So where did they get it from? We don't, so we don't need to say all of that. I like it. If he got it from me and, or if he didn't get it from me and he got it from somebody else, it's, it's paying homage to us because he did it like we did it. I like it.

The paying homage of the ear blowing was, was when you did that to Eddie Jones. Was he pissed? Well, Eddie was one of my little guys too. And I hung out with Eddie a lot. So I was always in Eddie ear like that. I used to be in all of them. Him and Nick that actually, I used to do them all like that. So they were all my guys and it was just fun, you know?

And I used to do it all the time to irritate them a lot. Yeah, that's, I mean, it worked. What was the meanest trash talking, you know, escapade you had the one moment where you're like, maybe I went too far there. Well, I, you know, I think with Lamar Odom, we were, we were playing a game and, you know, I was talking, I was just getting into it. And, and I said something about his mother and just so happy, his mother had just passed and I didn't know it.

Okay. And, and after the game, my agent came in and his agent came in and he was over there and he said, he was feeling really bad and he was, you know, he's breaking down and, and because I had said that and he looked up to me or whatever, whatever. And, you know, I had to go over and say, sorry, because it was, it was one of the things where, you know, I don't want to take, I don't want to go at nobody's family like that because I have a mom, you know? And, and it's hard, you know, once you, you're trying to play a basketball

game and your mom just passed and, you know, you say something about it and really I didn't know, I didn't know that. So that was one of the bad, the worst things I ever did. And I really didn't know about it. And, and I felt really bad about it. And what was one of the best ones where you're like, I got that guy real good. And it was just like, what was your, maybe your best story that you tell about trash talking to someone where you took them off their game?

Well, you know what? I have so many, every one of them was really good. Yeah. So I used to get a Jason Kierz one, the same way Jay said some, Jason said something to me and then all of a sudden said, I told him, you remember, I raised your little ass and then I gave him about 30. And then I was just killing him every time. You know, I tell him, I remember when I used to wipe his diapers and wipe his

nose. So, you know, that was good and stuff like that. And, and, and he was like, ah, I should have never said that to you. I knew better. So, you know, it is a lot, a lot, you know, but Jay, I raised Jay and I'm very happy for him right now. And that's probably my best thing because he's going to the Hall of Fame and I'm going to be standing up there with him.

And, you know, for two of us to be coming from Oakland, California and going to Hall of Fame is big for me. As far as the players that are playing today, who do you look at? And you're like, all right, that guy can talk a little shit. I respect him. Well, Draymond is probably the one that can do it the best. You know, uh, during our day, Draymond would have got kicked out a lot of games with the referees that we had.

We had a lot of more older schools, referees that didn't take a lot of trash nowadays. These other referees are younger and, you know, they, you know, they're refereeing the game towards the new era. Uh, but Draymond would have, Draymond was like me, but he takes it, he takes it far and then some of the referees would have kicked him out a lot and he would have had a lot of texts like me. He's getting up there though, but he, you know, in my era with the younger,

with the old school referees, it would have been a little bit worse. Yep. All right. My seat geek question is the last question for me. You can put in promo code take you get $10 off your seat geek purchase promo code take. All right. So I alluded to this before we got on air, uh, back in June, 2014, we took a

trip bar still took a trip out to the Fox studios. We did a spelling bee contest with Chris Thompson and we played tennis with Andy Roddick. The third video that we were supposed to do was two on one versus Gary Peyton. And then you just mysteriously had like an Achilles or an ankle injury out of nowhere and you know, showed, are you scared of us? Are you scared that I would have trash talked to you off the court?

Who told you who told you that lie? I mean, that was, someone was covering for your ass because your ass didn't want a piece of meat. It ain't got damn time. You want to get it? I'll tell your ass up. Oh yeah. I'll take you down low post and I'll play you with one hand behind my back

and bust your ass. Great. Great. I mean, no, you'll have a fake Achilles injury too. I'll, I'll fucking take you down to the low post. I'll put my ass right up on you. Yeah. And I don't have no damn injury now.

Okay. All right. We're good. We'll do it then. We'll absolutely do it. I'd get my ass and don't fake bring your ass up and bring your ass where we and I'll do your ass and anything you want me to. How much you weight Gary?

Like 185 190? No, no, no. That was a little carry to 15 right now. Big fella. Oh, okay. Well, I'm like to 45 right now. No, no, you won't be able to handle me down in the low post. This guy will get in your ass.

Yeah, I'll get in your ass. Hey, bring it on. I'll get it. I don't want to talk no more. All that talking is for somebody who's scared when you talk, you say it. Coming from the best trash talker of all time. All right, Gary Payton. He is coaching the big three.

You got to check it out. Games are starting soon. Fox and FS one Gary. I mean, listen, I'm going to take you. I'm going to take you downtown. Hey, I didn't told you stop talking. Be about it. Don't talk about it.

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Check out the big three coming up soon. He's the, uh, he's the second Peyton that we've had. You think he's related to Sean? Yes. Yeah, definitely. Definitely. Irish twins. That's what it is.

Right. Yeah. Um, all right. We have a take quick Irish twins are just two people that are born like nine months apart. No, no, no, I think it's, uh, one football coach and one basketball hall of famer of different race. Okay.

Irish twins would have this within 12 months. Yeah. Okay. Oh, Hank, that was pretty quick. Are you an Irish twin? No. All right. If it was within nine months, that would make no sense though.

Well, not exactly nine months after each other. You can still get pregnant while you're pregnant. You had double pregnancy. How do you think twins are born, dude? Yeah, but that's, they would get pregnant at the same time. How do you know that? You can't, we're there. I don't, you can't have a baby and then also be like two months pregnant.

Yeah. Mm-hmm. Embrace debate. Do guys love Irish twins? Yeah, sure. Yeah. Why not? Yeah.

All of them. Um, all right. We have a take quick. This one's a big one. Colin Coward has said that he wouldn't be surprised if, when, if LeBron gets humiliated in the NBA finals, if he walks away from the NBA for a year, not retire fully, just takes a year off, takes a gap year. This is takes a little sabbatical.

This is a take that is like a 7.8 on the Richter scale. Like they show the, the, the helicopter shows the, the, the highway is down. Right. The rock is going to make a movie where he has to save the world from this take. Yeah. Random fires are just sprouting up from this take. Uh-huh. I like it because Colin Coward, I'm convinced.

I mean, I think he, I think this is actually, he said this out loud. He just intentionally says the most outrageous thing once a month that he knows is going to be wrong, just hoping he catches lightning in a bottle. So I almost respect it because it's like, it's, it's a degenerate gambling brain move. Like I'm just going to take a shot here. Crazy money line. No one, if I, if I don't get it, who cares?

I mean, is he thinking that, is he thinking in terms of the LeBron MJ comparison where MJ took a year off? Well, that was, so that was part of his, uh, that was part of his reasoning behind it. So not because you're off to try out for the Browns and then come back. Not because of MJ, but he used that as, as like proof that crazy things happen in sports. And if he had told everyone a week before LeBron, or, uh, MJ retired the first

time that MJ was going to retire and play minor league baseball, everyone would have said he's crazy. I would have said he's probably going back in history and being, and, and, and taking credit for takes. He's taking credit for like, Hey, if I had lived back then, which nobody checking my radio tapes because I was definitely on the, on the radio back then. But if I was on the radio back then, I would have predicted this. And I would have been called an idiot.

Yeah. The world would have, would have strapped me to a chair and drowned me at like a which sometimes the only sane person in the world is the one that everyone else calls insane. Yeah. The old Colin is telling young Colin that if he had done that, he would have been, uh, cast outside and, and thrown stones thrown at young Colin is congratulating old Colin on young Collins past accomplishments that he didn't have.

I really, this can't be right. If this is right, it would like now, I would love to see it happen for the story, but now if Colin Coward can, you know what, let's just say it so that we can get credit for it. I LeBron exclusive report. Yep. I'm actually going to say for our LeBron update this week, LeBron James is not a repeat not going to go play minor league baseball in the Chicago White Sox organization.

Okay. So today is June 1st, 2018. Stamp it. I am predicting that if LeBron James, if the finals don't go exactly how he wants him to go in his head, in his head only LeBron James is going to take a year off. Wow. That's a bold take. Big credit.

Pardon my take. Wow. Where'd you come? That's pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. But it, but, but just so you know, it's, it's decided by in LeBron's brain how the finals goes.

So it could, he could like lose in embarrassing fashion, but be like, I kept a little of my dignity because JR Smith. So I'm coming. So my take will never be proven wrong. Okay. Yeah. It also is Colin Coward just saying this because he took a year off after he left ESPN.

Yeah. Oh, actually, you know what? Maybe that's why, maybe that's why LeBron's going to take a year off. So he can get his hair back. Like Colin. Oh, there you go. He comes back on the air. He's got to just leave.

He's got an Afro. Yeah. Leave for a year and fix your hair. And no one will be like, Hey, what's up with Colin Coward? Why did he dye his hair? Yeah. Like, no, no, no, no, I was just bound in the sun for a year. You guys wouldn't understand.

It's LA. Um, all right. We have a bad sports town update. Uh, the Warriors game one of the NBA finals. It was reported by Darren Revelle just in game. One of the NBA finals is not a sellout. Warriors still have hundreds of seats left to sell almost 300 upper level seats, 100 lower level seats still available on primary market 15 minutes before tip.

By primary market, he means you can just walk up to the will call window and buy a ticket. Yeah. I think what I don't think that here's what I think actually happens is all the Silicon Valley people out in LA or out in San Francisco, they all have ticket apps. They've all invented their own ticket apps. And so they just buy up all the tickets using like 500 different apps when they just should be using Seekick, obviously, but they buy them up on all these different apps and then nobody buys from each other because they're all trying to sell

people the tickets that they have on their app. Tickets don't even exist. You just show up. Right. And if you like, they scan your eyeball and like, if you pass and you're in, they scan LeBron James does not compute. Yeah. Oh, I got a, I got a Rick Riley joke.

Okay. Hey, how come LeBron James had an eye injury in hockey? Those guys have we injuries. Nice. I was like two or five, two, five. Thanks. Yeah. Two, two, five is pretty good.

One six. Oh, wow. Tough, tough grade there. It's okay. Um, I love it because there Darren Ravel, he's just a mouthpiece for different people across the country. So there's definitely some guy who got stuck with like 150 tickets. He just, he just miscalculated the market and he texted Ravel and was like, Hey, word

on the street is, it's not a sellout. Still get tickets. Show up. Meet me at the gate. I'm the guy, I'm the guy in the Grateful Dead shirt. I'm not a cop. Yeah. Or it's just a Kalangelo.

Yeah. And he's texted Ravel. He's like, Hey, their general manager is so bad that they can't even sell out games. Six or sold out all their games. Yeah. So you tell me which team's better. True. True.

Or Kalangelo's wife. Kalangelo's wife. Yeah. Eric Jr. Eric Jr. She probably has the entire phone. She has, she, she controls everything that goes on in that house. All right.

We have a kicker psychiatrist couch for a pitcher. So it came out. There was a story that you, Darvish, his friend, Chris Jimenez, who was a backup catcher for the Rangers. I think he's now with the Cubs in some capacity and he came out with a story saying that you Darvish is sad because he thinks that all of the Cubs fans and all of Chicago hates him because he's been on the DL twice and it's just now June 1st and he also reads everything on Twitter and doesn't like getting the hate.

So if you have a Twitter account, please tweet something nice that you Darvish likes. I was trying to think of some nice things to say about you earlier. I don't really know that many things about him. I do know that he's a very gif-able pitcher. Yeah. So, so you, you are, you have the best gifts out there. You threw that one slider one time that, that made my knees buckle.

Yes. The, the gif where all five of the pitches go at once. Very cool. Yes. Yeah. But he, he, like you came in, you can't even do these. You can't do, you can't talk about you. You can't talk about you without saying you.

His, yeah, his whole career is like a big who's on first routine. Yeah. So you came in to the office and I told you this story and I was like, I'm going to start being nice to you Darvish. I wrote a blog about it and then you're like, Oh, why don't you say the gif is nice. Like, yep, did that. He's like, why don't you say his name's cool.

Yep. Did that. Uh, I don't know anything else about you. And then Hank was like, what about his hair? It's kind of cool. It's like, yeah, his facial hair is pretty cool. And that was it. Oh, he got paid all, he's rich.

Yeah, he's rich. Good news. You're, you're, you're rich. Yeah. You are rich. You are rich. You is rich. How terrible is it for, it's actually grammatically correct abuse to say you is rich.

Yeah. You's rich. You's rich. Yeah. Congrats. Um, how terrible though, though, is it for your friend to go on record and be like, Hey, uh, every time you go on Twitter and hate on you Darvish, he reads it and he despises it and gets him really sad.

Yeah, that's basically the worst thing you can do. I know he was trying to be a good friend. Um, terrible friend, very bad friend, very, very, very bad friend. So you Darvish, uh, we're going to be nice to you. Be nice to you. No, you don't be nice to Darvish comma you. Good news is he's got other pictures on that staff that definitely aren't headcases that he can relate to.

Oh, wait, no, you have, you have a lot of headcases. Yeah, not, not much, not anymore. Sorry. Uh, when I said you, I meant the picture. Oh, okay. You, the pictures got a lot of headcases. Got it. Yeah.

Um, I, like I said, though, trans, when you hit translate tweet on his tweets, that's cool. Yeah. Like it's, it's, you feel like you're leading in another language. Yeah, right. You feel like you're a spy. Yeah. Yeah.

So that's cool. And you can tell people, I speak a couple of languages. I read a Japanese tweet today. Jake Arietta did a lot of plotties and yoga. Yeah. Man card on him. Yeah. She doesn't, she, I maybe we'll just say you have some pictures that

can't throw the ball to first base. True. Well, bounce pass. Bounce pass. Yeah. Um, so yeah, that's basically all we can say that's nice about you. Mm hmm. I'm mad about you.

I'm mad about you. What's his name? Paul, what? Paul Reiser. Paul Reiser. That he should, you know what he should do? He should start throwing a gyro ball. We, we really are dating ourselves talking about mad about you.

That's, it was like, it was like, no, it was, um, TV show. It was like a shittier version. If it was like, it was like Frazier and Seinfeld had a baby, but it was like a shitty baby that you want to throw down a river. It was Frazier. Okay. All right. Let's move on.

Frazier was Seinfeld for people who thought they were smart. Yeah. It was, uh, the Brendan Frazier origin story. Yeah. It was like a prequel to, uh, that one movie with Elizabeth Hurley. Um, all right. We next up have are the Patriots fun update. Uh, what do you have for us?

Well, this has just been a hot topic. Oh, very hot. So we're trying to get to us. We're trying to get to the, yeah. We started to get to us for putting it. Oh, wait, that was me that put it on there. What? What you were cool.

You're laying Johnson. No, no, you're, oh, you're laying Johnson. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Credit to your, your lame Johnson credit to actually all the terrible. It's like one of the morning, uh, credit to all the terrible journalists who credited Lane Johnson with the quote, even though we were the ones who said

it, but we started the, we started the ball rolling. What do we have for an update? We had an update, uh, the McCordy twins. I don't really care to differentiate which one said it. Um, but one of the twins, the Irish twins said that, uh, winning is winning is fun. And that's how you should judge the Patriots. Some people want to go there and have a good time, play around. But guess what?

At the end of the day, if you get that W, that's what the real fun is. Yeah. True. And then Teddy Bruce, he came over the top of goes like, our culture's not for everyone, uh, but if you want to be a champion, if you have the heart of the champion, then that's having fun. And Martell's Bennett said something too, as well. He tweeted like, yeah, he was like, I, I didn't like being there, but I liked

winning. Right. Kind of thing. You know that something is really, really fun when people are getting mad about how fun it is. That's, that's a surefire way to tell. It's just a great time. Yeah.

When you have to defend how fun it is to, to win and like something that I think we all can agree is fun, but like they really got to defend it. Right. It might suck a little. Some true football guys actually think that not having fun is fun. Yeah. Like Nick Saban has a blast when he's having a shitty time. It's like the absence of, uh, what is it?

The absence of color is, what is that? The absence of heat is cold. No, the absence of light, right? Dark is the absence of light. Right. The absence of fun is like a true football guy. Yeah. It's just the essence of just thinking about football.

Speaking of which, Nick Saban said that he wants to expand the SCC schedule so that you can play nine SCC teams, which is just Nick, just relax, man. Just chill out. Just fucking chill out. You beat the fuck out of everyone already. Yeah. Just relax. Um, before we get to the last two segments, I have a question for you,

PFT. Okay. Do you miss great week? I do miss great week. I lay in bed thinking about it every night and thinking about that RV and all the fun times we had. I do as well. I miss, uh, coach.

Oh, I miss going to the Jags pool with Doug Morone. I miss shooting jumpers with Tom Crane. I miss hanging out in Bruce Arian's football guy basement. Oh, uh, you know what? If you missed all of that, guess what? You can watch it all on Saturday. Where? Barstool Sports app.

Wow. We, uh, actually put together Hank and Buddha Ben put together an awesome recap video of our entire week. So watch it. It's going to be awesome behind the scenes. Never be seen, never seen before footage, which is always kind of scary because we don't know what could be anything could be. What's the craziest thing that give us one of the behind the scenes footage?

Shit. The making of drink paint is hilarious. Okay. I mean, it's what that probably is going to be. Yeah. I forgot that you were standing behind Ben with a camera that entire time. Ben is just an incredible director of photography. Also, PFT tried to break it, uh, break into Blake Bornell's car.

Yeah. Yes, I did try that. True. Um, so check it all out on the Barstool Sports app on Saturday morning. Little Saturday morning cartoons for you. You might have to cop. Um, all right. We have two left.

We have thoughts and prayers for Hugh Jackson. Hugh Jackson is jumping in, uh, Lake Erie today, today because they went on 16, he's, he's a man of his word. So he's going to dive right in. Wait, hold on. He waited till June 1st. Kind of a cop out. That's the biggest cop out I've ever fucking heard.

Yeah. I just realized this when you said this topic, I was like, Oh, okay. He's jumping. It's what do you, well, you can't wait till June 1st to jump in a lake. Well, on the other hand, uh, the, the water temperature of Lake Erie is to a point where it can sustain more bacteria now because it's warmer. It's actually 212 degrees Fahrenheit. Yeah.

Because it's on fire all the time. It is lit on fire. Do you think, uh, that Todd Haley is going to be a lifeguard? Cause he's so fucking horny. He's just going to grab him, give him mouth to mouth. Yeah. He for sure is. He's going to get in the Todd, Todd Haley's mouth buddy.

They're all going to show up and it's going to be like one of those things. Like let's just get this done with. And Todd Haley is going to show up with the, with the, uh, suntan lotion on his nose and the really short red shorts and be like, what? I thought we were, I thought we were having a little day at the beach. Yeah, we're the babes at it with a Mai Tai in his hand and his wife walking around like asking me to fuck people. He was going to like jump into the water and Haley's going to be like, you're a

pussy. Let's go skinny dipping guys. Yeah, we're all doing it. Yeah. It feels good on your dick. And he's just going to jump and he's like, I'm fucking low. I'm fucking the lake. Check it out.

And that was Todd Haley jumping fucking. Like every year. All right. Let's finish up the week with, uh, a explain to Hank. We got a few, uh, this one, this one, I just want, I just want to get the record straight because in New York, I feel like more and more and more would have to deal with like, when you go to pay for something, the people, when you swipe your card, the tip screen automatically comes up.

Dude, true. So I just want to run through some scenarios and you guys just tell me if you're supposed to tip or not. Cause I don't like, when the thing shows up, you feel it's intimidating. It's too much too. Yeah, exactly. It's too much. The lowest amount is too much and I, that doesn't like, we, if you get a sandwich

and they show you it, it's like, you got to tip $3 for a sandwich. Like if you get, if you get just a coffee and a donut in the morning, are you supposed to tip? Uh, I mean, listen, I'm going to say this. Well, if you pay with a card, you don't have change. That's the thing. Here's, here's my go-to answer. If you put a tip thing in front of me, I'm going to write something on it.

Just, yeah, I'm a pushover. Starbucks, actually, Mike Portnoy to discuss that. I bet you he has some takes on that one. Say, say what you will about Starbucks. Uh, they've been in the news recently, but they don't do the automatic tip thing on their little, I'm sure it's coming. But for Starbucks, I usually throw in like five bucks every two weeks. So if you kind of answer the question, it's just whenever the tip thing comes

up, that's my general policy, that's how I feel too. I just, sometimes I'm like, I feel like you're not supposed to tip here, but they're still putting in front of you. It's worth 20% for me to trick myself into believing I'm not a bad person for a couple of seconds. Right, right, right. All right. Now that we're past that fire creates heat, but what creates cold?

I thought we covered this absence of fire, absence of fire. Or ice. I actually don't know the answer. I, uh, Omaha steaks packing, they pack it with dry ice. Pretty cool. So that's actually a bow added bonus. When you get your home on stakes, put in promo code PMT, and then you get the dry ice and you look like you're smoking.

Or if you put on a state and Liberty shirt, you look cool. Uh, why is a wise man the opposite of a wise guy? I don't think it is. Yeah. Why just we got a problem with, with dudes and guys. No, wait a wise guy, a wise guy. Is like our friend, Anthony, scare moochie. Yeah, but our thing, yeah.

Like Costa Nostra. No, wise guy is like, uh, no, why is guys like a fella? Yeah. Like when Christopher gets made before he gets killed, right? So like against the omerta wise man. Yeah. It's like an older, I mean, honestly, hey, you know that as, as two basic, you know, we're basically in the mafia.

We can't talk about this. Yeah. This is called our religions and oath. You want to understand this. Our thing is people who've watched the entire catalog of the Sopranos were in the mafia. Not to make this about food, but have you seen, we've had, uh, uh, what have we had with those wise potato chips that are in the kitchen?

So good. Mm hmm. They're like, I don't know what they do with it. It's just regular potato chips. And that was my Jerry Seinfeld doing wise potato chips. What do they put in these potato chips? A cereal considered a salad. That's an awful question.

That's an awful question. Now you can make the argument that it's a soup. Yeah. I think we've done, I think we've made that argument, but holy shit. That, uh, I mean, that's, well, corn flakes. That's like drunk, but that's at drunk Buzzfeed. Corn pops. I think there's a lot of corn in there.

I tweeted at Zach Harper earlier, Nick. It really got my brain thinking because it's like the milk is just addressing when you think about it. By the way, someone tweeted at me our doodle account that we still haven't made, Liam, can you make it tonight? We have the name. I, I'm sorry. I'm not shouting you out.

Send dudes. Oh, that's good. Do DS. Nice. Right. So Liam, you make that tonight, please? Because otherwise someone's going to make it. Uh, how do dogs shed?

I'm looking at you right now and you don't look like you're going to make it. Be a good bubba. You're not going to make it. All right. Someone send us send dudes and then give us the, all the passwords and stuff. You know, Brian Kalangelo's wife, you send it for us. How do dogs shed so much hair all the time, but they never seem to go bald. Cause they all use for hymns.

Yeah. That's a good question though. That does, you would think. You'd think a dog would accidentally one time, like just risk it all and just go all the way. I think that dogs have just so much energy in general that they sprout things faster. Yeah. Like if you ever notice a growth on your dog, the tiny little thing will be seven

times the size in like a day. They just have so much positive energy inside of them, just bursting it all out so they can grow hair super, super fast. Like Jim Harbaugh. Yeah. Who says this is part of my take, presented by barcel sports? Good question. That's a good question.

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