Pardon My Take - George Kittle, Maxx Crosby, Super Bowl 58 Preview And Props Plus Fyre Fest

Episode Date: February 9, 2024

Super Bowl 58 is finally here and we give our thoughts on the game, favorite prop bets and the finale of nerd nuggets (00:00:00-00:39:00). George Kittle joins the show to talk about being back in the Super Bowl, pancaking people, his story getting to the NFL and more (00:39:00-01:23:07). Maxx Crosby joins the show to talk Raiders, his sobriety, Eastern Michigan and more (01:23:07-02:13:20). We finish with Fyre Fest of the week (02:13:20-02:28:23).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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It's part of my take. There's enough of our shoe sports. Welcome to part of my take. Today is Friday, February 9th, Soup Bowl 58. We're here. It's gonna happen. The last game of the 2023-24 season. We made it. We made it. We have to talk some picks We have to talk some props

How is everyone feeling? I'm feeling good. I've got a lot of energy this week I don't know what it is. I haven't really been sleeping much more than normal in a Super Bowl week Probably like six six and a half hours a night, but waking up feeling good. I don't know I maybe they do pump like oxygen into the casinos down here. Yeah, whatever it is, I'm feeling good. I feel good too. I feel strong. I've been doing a good job of going to sleep early to take care of my voice. I felt like I was about to lose it on Wednesday night was like, you know

what, I'm gonna go bed at 10 o'clock. Yeah, I'm gonna go bed 10 o'clock for the listeners. I have not been going to bed at 10 o'clock. I've been playing a lot of roulette. Hank was on fire at the roulette table the other night. Good job, Hank. Thank you. Yeah. And then he was on fire kind of at the blackjack table in the opposite way. Good job. Yeah. Yeah. My chips were on fire. I feel good as well.

I slept for 13 hours last night. Let's go. We interviewed Risillo. My phone died during it. So I was like, I'll go back to my room, charge it up for a minute. And then in the time before I turned back on, I fell asleep and woke up at 5 a.m. And I feel great, so I'm ready to finish the week strong.

Take on the day. How many times have you guys worked out this week? I walked today for like three miles. Once for 10 minutes. I worked out one time, I ran on the treadmill for about 10 minutes. And you feel great if you do that on vacation. I also was working out specifically

because I've been trying to hunt down a certain person that will remain unnamed. It was a trying to just go to the gym to see if I could see this person. It's a little bit of stocking. Light stocking. But actually I wasn't. It's for a good cause.

I wasn't, I'm not the one who's stalking. I'm stalking on behalf of someone else. Right. So it's not fully stocking. So it's not for you. You're like a spy. Right. You're spying, you're not stalking. I'm stalking on behalf of someone else. Right. Yeah. So it's not for you. You're like a spy. Right. Yes. Yeah.

You're spying. You're not stalking. I'm the tip of the spear. I'm the first one out there. Do they call James Bond a stalker? No. He's a fucking spy. If it doesn't work out that I find this person,

I will reveal who the person was on Sunday Night Show. It's an unnamed commissioner. OK. Well, there it is. So we'll just have to cut that. We'll have to cut that because we are still stalking or light stalking stalking for someone else. We'll leave that one out. Yeah, bleep it. Jake, how you feeling? Do you want to radio row? I went to radio row this

morning. I'm going to go back after this. I have a day pass. So I'm going to take advantage of it. You just like would you have like the the hearts in your eyes just being like look at all these guys at home. Look at these microphones. You're at home. Yeah, okay, you know this podcast is pretty big Yeah, we do we do yeah, we're in the media too. You can't have two homes. You can't have two homes Okay, but you were really at home. Yeah, okay. What would you see? See boomer and carton I saw Steven a I saw Stephen A.

I saw CJ Stroud, Michael Vick. That was just on one lap. It's funny that you said Floreo first. Yeah, Floreo, big names out there. Floreo, CJ Stroud, Michael Vick. Who's who of the NFL? Stephen A. Smith, I think that's his name. I was catching up.

I did a hit on the New house student radio station. Nice. Giving back. Giving back to the kids. What advice did you give the youngsters? I said keep in touch with your connections because you never know. All you need is one connection for things to work out. Nice. Yeah. I mentioned how the only time I ever lied to you guys before I met you.

What? What did you lie about? What did you lie about? met you. What? I haven't heard about this. What did you lie about? When you guys asked if I'm locally in New York. And you said no? You said yes. Because I knew you wouldn't take me seriously. Oh, God, where were you locally?

Florida. Oh, that's a good lie. Yeah. We should probably fire you now. Very good lie. Retroactively. Yeah, allegations have come to light. Plagiarism?

Was there plagiarism. He's like George O'Leary. Remember when he got hired for like a day at Notre Dame? That rocked. Yeah. Yeah. But it was cool. Okay. Good. All right. Well, let's talk about the game. pumped about this game. I'm excited about this game as well. I am I'm getting more confident as the week goes on. I don't know if that's probably a bad thing, right? It's a really bad thing. I am a... I like Niners and I love Christian McCaffrey as Super Bowl MVP. Yeah, I don't, I mean, I don't hate that. I just, I think I'm going to stick with the

Chiefs. I'll leave myself an opening right before kickoff if I want to change, but I've thought about it very hard. I think the chief's defense is better than people realize. And I think Spags is going to put on a masterclass and Mahomes is Mahomes. And there's just so many things that I just keep going back to like the chiefs. They've just been there done that they know how to win these games. And I know no disrespect to Brock Purdy who by the way I ESPN is running out of things to talk about. So he's gone instead of a game manager. They were debating today whether he's a game changer. Next week, is he a game wrecker? Right. Is he is he elite? Is he going to be the new Joe Flacco? If he wins this game, if he wins this game, he's going to be in the elite conversation. Because

guess what? He won a Super Bowl. Yeah. So, uh, yeah, no, I've seen a lot of that going on. The game manager, game changer, we're just trying to figure out ways to say that Brock Purdy is not as good as Patrick Mahomes. Right. Right. And I, the one thing that's making me very nervous about the Chiefs is that there is, as of right now, 70% of the money is on the Chiefs. Yep. Yep. So that's happened twice before 60. This would be the highest ever. Yeah. On one side, the last two times 68% both of these was the Patriots when they beat the Rams in 2019. So Patriots had the majority of the money. So that was public was right. The other one though is scary because 68% of the money was on the Broncos when they lost to the Seahawks by a billion. I don't think this doesn't really do anything to prove prove one way or the other. Other than I'm just still confused. Yeah, I don't think that's going to happen in this game because obviously you're right about the defense like the 49ers defense actually isn't that great.

And especially since Huffanga has been out there, third down defense hasn't been great. Guess what Patrick Holmes does? He always gets third down conversions like that. That feels like he just breaks teams backs with with plays out of nowhere in third down. And their their pass rush win rate has gone down since getting Chase Young. Yeah, they've gotten worse at getting to the quarterback since Chase has been on the team. But I just think I think the Niners are just they're just gonna run the ball. They're gonna run the ball, run the ball, run the ball. But if Christian McCaffrey gets two touchdowns and the 49ers win, I think

that McCaffrey is going to end up with the MVP. I agree with that. The only thing is, so I agree that they're going to run the ball. They're going to run the ball a lot. There one stat that should have you a little scared and this is going to be a game of chess. So I've shouted them out before by guys from sports info solutions. The chiefs defense Stacks a box on 14% of the plays that's 28th highest rate in the league So they play a lot of light box and the the Niners Actually like to run against a stack box and throw against a light box So it's like it's kind of reversed where the chiefs are gonna dare the Niners to throw and the Niners are gonna have looks that they

Usually throw in so it's are going to have looks that they usually throw in. So it's very weird to me. Like they usually they pass against a stack box. Yeah. Yeah. They pass against a light box. Yes. The Niners like to run the ball against stack boxes.

Forty eight percent stack box run rate highest in the league. That doesn't make any sense to me. I know. But yeah, weird. Okay. I just saw I saw that sat and I was like, huh, that's weird. And so as much as I think the Niners will be able to run, the Chief's deep secondary has been so good.

And if you say, okay, Christopher Cafer's gonna have 125 yards, but the Niners pass offense is only gonna have 150. I think the Chiefs would take that. Yeah, it probably would. Right? Probably would. Because even Christopher Cafery, he could run. He could have an incredible game. You'll still be in some passing downs where you have to pick up a long third down. And the Chiefs

have been like, luxurious need to shut down every number one receiver. Like it just, I don't know, I just keep going back to it. And then my heart wants kiddo who we're going to talk to in a second to win the Super Bowl. So I am as twisted as possible. Yeah. Yeah, you are. I'm an absolute mess. I would love to get kiddo a Super Bowl. I'd love to get Trent Williams a Super Bowl. I'd like to see that happen. And like the Niners, they haven't been a long suffering franchise. It's not like my fans are like, Oh, shit, we haven't won a Super Bowl. I mean, it's been a while since they've won a Super Bowl.

They're one of the elite franchise franchise. the NFL and the fact they're always competitive too Correct. It feels like more often than not the 49ers have a pretty good team at least recently So it's not like you've got David vs. Goliath in this and uh, the one thing that does make me worried about the 49ers is Is the kicker? Yeah, moody moody makes me nervous big makes me very nervous, even his makes don't look good. Kicker and kicker, quarterback, coaches. I think those are all on the chief side.

I was thinking about this today. I woke up and my first thought, because I was watching Get Up as one does, and they're talking about like clutch players, right? Really interesting conversation. And I was like, can a coach be clutch? You don't normally hear about coaches being clutch. Maybe Kyle Shanahan's just not clutch. Yeah Maybe he isn't. Yeah, and he read is and he read his clutch as fuck. But you read super clutch Super Bowl experience And he read used to not be clutch. What he got clutch. Yeah, he got he gained the clutch

He mutated himself. He just had to get to a certain age. He became clutch. He biohacked his body and spawned the clutch gene. What are you gonna say? Yeah, I was gonna say. Yeah, why it wasn't Philly because he wasn't clutch. Yeah, I don't think the coach's clutch. I think it's the quarterback. Yeah, quarterback is clutch. Yeah. Donovan McNabb. Patrick Holmes. Yeah. Difference. Huge difference. Either way. I do think these two teams are like I think that has more in common with his dad. What? McNabb. McNabb has more in common with Patrick Holmes dad. That was good player. Let's not. That wasn't a good quarterback. He's very good. I'm not talking about on the field. Yeah. Yeah.

Talk about between the other lines. You thought he was talking about Patrick Holmes senior as a quarterback? Well, I don't know. He's a good quarterback. Either way, this game, I expect this game to be a great game. I'll be disappointed if it's not a great game. You'll be disappointed in the game. I will. Yeah.

Because these two teams are really fucking good. My expectations were higher for you game. And seriously? Yeah. I'll be very upset. It should be a good game. A lot of big name players. A lot of, there's not like a whole bunch of

Excitement in terms of like spicy storylines going to this game. Yeah, it's more like okay We've got two good teams. We kind of expected both these teams to be in the conversation And there's no like real bad blood which kind of sucks I would like somebody to I don't get into a fight with somebody else stir some shit up in the media Yeah, they're there debauchbo to go in his podcast and be like, Kaderi's Tony's a bitch. It's a Kaderi's Tony. Better not be playing if Kaderi's Tony's active. I might that might. Yeah, you should. Switch. You should. No, I'm not joking.

That would make me switch. Yeah. If he's part of any game plan, I would switch to the Niners. He kind of won the Super Bowl last year. He did kind of win the Super Bowl last year. That's true. He did have a clutch play. He is clutch. Yeah, he is clutch. The um yeah, it does feel like the the whatever's going to happen is either going to be my home's goat legacy, all that talk on Monday or Holy shit, Brock, pretty one a Super Bowl.

Yeah. Holy shit, Brock, pretty one a Super Bowl will be pretty fun. It would be very fun. Yeah, because then I just I just keep going back to the fact that I do not want to start Sunday night show Monday show with the Kansas D. Chiefs are Super Bowl champions and I bet on the Niners. Yeah, that's that's what I don't want. I have no problem doing that. Yeah, I'm fine with that. I just he's kicked my teeth and enough. I have a fun little Super Bowl stat for you from our friend Jay Kuda. Do you know there's never been a seven yard touchdown run in the super? I did see that.

Yeah. That's fucking awesome. It's pretty weird. I kind of want to bet exactly seven yard touchdown run. Is that an option? I don't know, but that's that's a wild thing for he had all the listed. Is that the only yards? Yeah.

No, no, there's a ton of yards that haven't happened, but obviously it's like when you get further down the line, there hasn't been a 12 yard or 13 yard touchdown run, but seven you'd think. Yeah. Think there'd be a seven yard touchdown run. That feels like McAfrey territory, right? Yeah. Seven yards. Yeah.

Also, I think I saw a stat that was like the team that's closer to the Super Bowl site usually wins. That means really nothing, but Niners are closer. Yeah. Yeah. Do we want to do prop bets? Let's do them. I got I got some ones I'm I'm very confident in some ones that I'm terrified of. Okay. Well, let's match. You have some prop bets too. Yeah, I got prop bets. Okay. Go ahead. This first one's really fun. It's probably the most fun thing in football. It's what I care about

the most. I don't really care about wins and losses as much as I care about this It has happened three times in the Super Bowl before So I think that this year could be the fourth. I'm gonna go with score a guy Gamis The only this is mine You wanted to do the octopus too? Did you have octopus? Oh octopus is on there. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, nice.

All three score goms in the Super Bowl have involved the Denver Broncos. Oh, interesting. Okay. Wins and loss. Okay, so PFT, what are your confident, let's start with the confident and we'll go confident to crazy.

You want me to give you a confident one? Yeah. No fucking doinks. No doinks, we're running it back. I got doing big time last year. And I just realized I'm talking about Moody. And even his mace, even his makes are close to being misses. And also last year it was Bucker that doinked.

It was Bucker that doinked, but he's a good kicker. There's no chance he doubled doinks. No chance. So what I'm doing is I'm gonna have my vengeance on the doink from last year. I'm gonna double my bet this year and go no doinks. Hank, will you be responding in kind? I have to. Yeah, you have to doink. You're fucking asshole.

Hank, you're such a dickhead. What are the odds on no doink? It's minus 750. It's an investment. It's an investment. It's safe. Now, Hank, you were dickhead last year about it You basically just bedded. I was a winner last year

No, you bet it just you made it happen and you lost me a bunch of money I literally said in real time. I was like that that it's the odds are too good to pass up You think they were gonna have two Super Bowls in a row with doincks? No, but get a calculator. It doesn't happen just you know out of spite out of spite. Yeah after all I've done for you Yeah, out of spite out of spite. Yeah, after all I've done for you All right, I'll do you want me to ride no no 750 I could never know what's a crazy number. It's an investment. That's a crazy number It's an investment. Okay. I have one that I I like that is not crazy, but it's fun one I think I've bet it every single Super Bowl not only tails. We all bet tails. Yeah

Over two and a half players to throw a pass. I love that. Yeah. You just feel like there has to be at least one trick play in this game. Debo, maybe, maybe Kelsey. Mm hmm. And there's someone's going to have to. McCaffrey.

What? McCaffrey. Yeah. Someone gets injured for a second. I'm just going to say injuries. Yeah. Although when they get injured for a second, they usually hand it off. But I I just love I always love it because you're just rooting for a trick play to happen Yeah, the Chiefs do love like tinkering around in the red zone empty the clip empty the club

Yeah, let's let's have a trick play you can even get like a little double reverse where the wide receiver like just tosses it Just a little bit forward. It's got a lot. I'd like that a lot Hank. What's your favorite one? I'm to my last two Super Bowls. I went mega on opening kick Touchback or not touch back. I think it was touch back. It was touch back that hit for the Rams Everyone think it was like 25 times in a row. It hadn't hit it did last year No, doink or doink that hit easy It was easy shut up, but it was it was too easy. It was very easy I honestly I would not be betting this if I hadn't gotten doing no spike

I just like that. I have to double down and guess what if it don't again? I'm gonna double down again next year There's one better one prop it on here that I'll be loading up unloading the clip emptying the clip putting it all on this one prop Will any punt result in a touchback, putting it all on this one prop. Will any punt result in a touchback? Yes. I have that one too, Hank. I love that. I love that.

That's right. Yeah. How does that not happen? It's got a hit. So it is plus 135. Plus 135. Those are just fun ones. Yeah.

Every punt, every punt. Every punt. Like we got a chance. There's going to be a fucking touchback on one of these punts for sure. Adrenaline pumping. You're trying to, you know, cough and corner, it goes five yards too far, punch, touch back. Yeah, like Ray Ray McLeod is gonna be standing on the 10,

he's gonna wave his hand over his head, signaling a fair catch, and then at the last second, he's gonna sprint away, the ball's gonna bounce at the seven, roll into the end zone, and all the players on the Chiefs are gonna be like, oh, I thought it was gonna fair catch it, and then we're gonna be like, we're rich.

Yeah. I love that. Let's do it. Okay. I'm in on that with you guys. What other ones you guys got? Um, I'm doing over 1.5 coaches challenges. Hmm. Throwing the flags.

Let's get the flags out there. Oh, I love doing the first time out too. Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah. That one's just Andy Reed. Yeah. I had that too. I wanted to do Niners first challenge because I think the guys think the guys in the field are gonna be going for my homes

My homes always get the benefit of the doubt so that Niners first challenge was minus one one oh five You think the refs the script is in they need well Yeah, my homes Kelsey Swift to win correct, so they're gonna call something a little shady and cows gonna be like yeah Got it. I like that. That's good logic something a little shady and cows gonna be like, eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh eh So I like that I like color of body armor poured on wedding coach clear slash water. Okay, okay armor sport water Okay, nice. Oh, 700. Yeah, do some sport water on outline water Travis Kelsey MVP Yeah, for the storyline. I just don't see a way that Kelsey gets MVP in my homes doesn't though Because they're sick of my homes Who the the media and they want to give it a Kelsey you think the media's sick of my homes. Who? The media and they want to give it to Kelsey.

You think the media is sick of my homes? No, but I'm just saying that that is just sounded right. Fatigue. Yeah. It did sound right. The only way. The real answer is there's no way. Yeah, there's no way. But if you're looking for an answer, it's fatigue.

Or the storyline, the media votes. But again, how like it would have to be that Kelsey got like if Kelsey has two touchdowns, 125 yards, Patrick Holmes would have to be that Kelsey got like if Kelsey has two touchdowns 125 yards Patrick Holmes would have to have an interception in only like 200 yards. Yeah You'd have to play bad right you'd have to play bad, but the Chiefs would win in Kelsey had to go off Yeah, Kelsey goes off have like a miraculous catch. Isn't that how did it all men win that year? Edelman Alderman won a Super Bowl MVP. I mean, the Cooper Cup won a couple of years ago. I think the best MVP that's not one of the quarterbacks

or Christopher McCaffrey is Debo. Because Debo, you could, he could do the Debo thing where he takes like a seven yard slant to the house. He's going to run the ball as well. Debo could end up with a crazy stat line that doesn't directly say Brock Hardy was the MVP. Whereas everyone else receiver it's very hard to make the argument how a receiver could get it or a tight end without the quarterback

winning it. Yes. Yeah. What about kicker MVP? We don't like moody. I don't know I don't like moody but now I really do. No actually no I'm just If a kicker was going to win, they would just give it to the defense. No, because if a kick listen, these kickers are going to be so good, they're going to be splitting the uprights. Balls going to be sewn right down the middle of the right. Shut the fuck up. Here's one that I really love. Actually, now that I'm looking through these list of profits, I love every prop that I'm making. So I am confident in all these. But I love every prop that I'm making so I am confident in all these but We yeah, that's every every single time. I think the lat the bucks chiefs

Super-roll I had ten prop outs and I went one and nine and before the game. I was like, this is gonna rock Yeah, I'm gonna win all no, I've got to figure it out. I've got all figured out This is one of those bets I've been doing during the playoffs where you find something weird and the odds are so good on it And you think to yourself, why doesn't this happen in every single game? Like why are these odds like that? And so I hit on one of those I lost on one of them. But this one seems too easy to be plus 2200. So it's 22 to one, each team to score one or more touchdowns, and one or more field goals in each half. No, so both teams need a touchdown and field goal in each half.

I did this. How does that not hit? I did. He did this. Orville's chiefs. Yeah, it's impossible. It's not impossible. It's very hard.

You have a limited mindset. It's extremely hard. It's also hard for a team like the chiefs who if they have a lead at half time, they're going to go and just full. I mean, they're under and every second half has been insane. Yeah. Also, that means you need four scoring drives and a half. There mean, they're under and every second half has been insane. Yeah. That means you need four scoring drives and a half. There's only, what, like each one of them has the ball.

No, no, you just need two scoring. Oh, yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. Yeah. That's a lot. You only get what?

Each team gets three or four drives. You just saw the 22. You know what? I'll do it. I saw 22. You said it. Jake said it's all here. That's 22 to 1.

You said it's all here. I'm just thinking why. The last one that I like is a length of longest drive over 77 and a half yards. I like that. You don't even have to score. You just have to go over 77 and a half yards. Yeah, that's good.

It would be crazy if you didn't score that, but both offenses should, and that could either, that could also be a huge play. Yeah. I hope we get a couple of huge plays. Shot plays. Hank, are you actually, but you're betting doink? I want you to.

Oh yeah, he definitely. I want you to because I want to beat you again. The other lock that I like is longest drive over 80 and a half. Wait, what? Are you serious? You serious, clerk? What just happened? He just said something.

Wait, wait, wait. Hold on, let him cook. Let him cook. Go ahead. Why do you think? Hold up, hold up. Let him cook. Let him cook. Go ahead. Why? Why do you think hold up? Hold up. Let him cook. I were talking about profits and the one I love. I was just looking and researching, maybe not fully listening.

I literally just said over seventy seven and a half yards longest drive. And then I was like, yeah, no, that's huge difference. I like eighty eighty eighty. Wait, what? what are your odds? Hank, I guess I was like, it was maybe 10 seconds. Yeah, like I couldn't have been quick. The next thing after I said, oh, maybe a big, maybe a big play. Don't have to score. Yeah, you just dropped that.

I wore in lockstep. Hank, great minds. Not unless it's a 78 year job. Then you're not. Yeah, there was discourse around it Yeah, it was it was big I know the position Hankson. It's the worst feeling just getting caught well. No, I heard 77 and a half I just want to make it clear that that you say I like the 80 and a half Different bet. Yeah, no completely different baby bump better cornerback. Legerius neat

To get an interception. Yeah, I don't know if we can translate that to the defense though Completely different, but baby bump. Better value. Chiefs cornerback, Lageria Snead. To get an interception. Yeah, you said it would be a lead. I don't know if we can translate that to the defense though. Didn't Schrager have Lageria Snead scoring a pick six? No, that's what's his name. Oh, McDuffie? Yeah, McDuffie.

Yeah, McDuffie. If you want to do an exact score, 34-28 chiefs. OK, OK. That's what Schrager had. 3-24 chiefs. We are riding with Boomer, right? Yes. That is MBS first touchdown score and Kyle Ushak anytime touchdown score. Yep. I also think that I'm just

going to bet Travis Kelsey scored touchdown. It seems like a smart bet. You have to do it. Last one I love is a joint field goal. Thanks. It's gonna be my last. Okay, nice. I'd say Travis Kelsey scored a touchdown. Yeah, nice, nice. All right, wait, so do we have a nerd nugget?

Well, I have a top five countdown. I don't have to read them all. We have five nerd nuggets? I don't have to read them all. They're all really cool. But I can just do one. How about top two? Okay.

Hello? Oh shit, I got an emergency at home. I got to go. All right. Good luck, big cat. All right. I heard you guys on Sunday and he was like, he's excited and big cats like. No, I am not as I'm not.

I'm not going to be as down on the nerd nugget noise because I don't have headphones in true. So it will be less grating on my OK. So I'm body and soul. But but your nerd nugget of the week, like don't do that for both of them, please. No, no, no. So there are five nerd nuggets.

I have five. All right, give me, I mean, listen, give us all five. It's the last game of the season. Yeah, you don't have to hear this again until September. There will not be nerd nuggets for March Madness. Okay. Okay. No.

I was thinking about it. But I'll cancel it for next season. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no Let's grade them on zero like the dunk contest zero to ten each one. What what's the over under of Jake's nerd nuggets for the total score? So max 150. Zero. You guys got all tens. Yeah. That's 30 times five. 150. That's too high of a number. Zero to five. OK, zero to five. I'm going to what's the maximum?

OK, perfect. Seventy five shout out supercuts. Yep. I'm going to I'm going to just think about my 25 points that could come at him. I'm I think the overunder for me is gonna be about 12 and a half. Okay, I was gonna say mine's gonna be like around six and a half. Okay. 10. Okay. All right. So that's so so Jake, if you can beat let's say 30 out of 75, then you've got to give the nerd nuggets hit. Okay, big moment. Yep. Last chance. All right. Someone someone do someone count max count.

I got a best guy on it. Yeah. He just took off. He just took off his shoes and socks. He's ready to go. Got me. Then okay. Excluding the Super Bowl heads ahead in the history of the Chiefs and 49ers. Their records are dead even dead even seven wins seven losses a piece. The Chiefs and 49ers, the records are dead even. Seven wins, seven losses apiece. The Chiefs and 49ers also have identical all time winning percentages.

54.8 percent. OK, via Jakuda. Zero, because you did it excluding the Super Bowl. That's a pretty big game. That's a big game. I was thinking from Jakuda. Oh, yeah. Yes. Yes, that's not.

Two, that was long. I was losing. Zero, two. So that's not your stat, Jake. Well, none of these aren't well, yeah, you know create stats. Yeah Yeah, someone does also jacoo to the part of it is the visual visualization you like put the Black and then the gray, but I think the excluding the Super Bowl is a pretty big piece of this I mean, I'm gonna give it a To because it is kind of wild that they're exactly even okay. So what do you got three three zero two two four four?

Yeah, all right If the 49ers win Ed and Christopher McAfrey will be just the second father son duo to win a Super Bowl for the same franchise Steve Diossi and Zach Diossi who both played for the Giants related to that Ed McCaffrey and Mike Shanahan won three Super Bowls together Now their sons Christian and Kyle have a chance to win one together. Okay. I like that one. Yeah, that's that. I'll give it a three. I'll give it a three. I'm gonna give it a two.

Okay. So we're up to nine and a half. We give it a two because we had said that. Yeah. Super Bowl, yeah. But so cool. 13 total. Also, here's another wild one,

tack this one on Jake. The last running back to win Super Bowl MVP was who? Trial Davis trial Davis played for Mike Shanahan on Ed McCaffrey. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right I'm probably Trial Davis and Christian McCaffrey probably have met probably. Oh, I want to get like a young picture of I think I actually Saw one. Yeah, that was pretty cool. That would be wild. Yeah number three one recently that was pretty cool. That would be wild. Yeah. Number three, umpire Terry Killins is a member of the

officiating crew for Super Bowl 58. Why is this significant? He will become the first player ever to both play and officiate a Super Bowl. Killins was a member of the 99 Titans that played in Super Bowl 34. That's not it. It's narc behavior though.

Like if you're an NFL player and you're right, I can't wait to become a cop. Yeah. No, I think that's a one for me. It's a cool one. Yeah. But they lost the Super Bowl. Also, yeah, why would you want to become a ref after being a player? That's the same. It's very weird.

I really like the way that you said, why is this significant? I don't know. Yeah, that was good. You have a little flair. I'm going to give it a two. It's like you're it's like you're giving like a like an essay. Yeah. A school essay. Why is this significant? Why is this significant? I'm going give it a two. It's like you're giving like an essay, like a school essay. Why is it significant? Why is it significant? I'm gonna go thesis is this guy played in breath in a Super Bowl. I'm gonna go three.

Okay. So what is the inflation rate? Two. I'm at 19. Okay. That's who to go. Oh wow. I'm at a pace.

I'm like right on pace. All right, number two. This is from an AWL. Okay. Dylan. The only quarterbacks to beat Patrick Mahomes in the playoffs so far are Tom Brady and Joe Burrow, whose backups were once playing Gabbard and Brandon Allen in games where they beat Mahomes. Guess who two of the backups in Super Bowl 58 are? Blaine Gabbard and Brandon Allen.

I'm gonna give this a five. That's a good one. I'll give you a four on that one. That's kind of cool. I'm gonna go three again. Bring it on. He's a third string. Oh, yeah. Two of the backup. Yeah. Oh.

But that's still crazy. Down to a two. They were the backups. Well, Darnell, yeah. Yeah. Two. I'm going two. What do we got?

I gave a five. I just like, I like any stats that are pro, my home's losing them. Are you betting on the Chiefs or the Niners? I bet on the Chiefs. The game ended and you convinced me to bet on the Chiefs so I put the bet in on the Chiefs. You made him do that big guy. I haven't, you can't cash out in Vegas.

So you're okay. So I've been taking all in and then I'm gonna make a decision, you know, Saturday or Sunday when I get back But it's it's it's hard for me to think about cashing out and betting on the Niners Why just because it's the chiefs in it It's my home a million times if you lose with the Holmes It's Sunday night. It's Sunday night. If you guys are both in the 49ers We're losers. Yeah, but think about how smart and I like you think about me because you you were the one that made me put

The bed in the first convince me to put the bed in the first place think about how smart you'd feel though if Brock Purdy beat Patrick Holmes But I also Much like I think it was the Packers whatever the game big cat talked about or game of the year If I lose the bet and the chiefs lose like I won't be that mad Right, right. You'll be like, okay. Mom's in one to sue. Yeah. Yeah. That's how I'm feeling as well. It's the it's what we talked about with Boomer. There's certain people, Belichick, Saban, Mahomes, Brady, where you can double lose because you can bet against them and then feel like the biggest idiot being like, why didn't you bet on these guys? So I'm probably not going to. I'm probably just gonna go mega lock on touchback punt. Yeah. Chiefs.

Yeah, I think I'm probably gonna load up on props too. Okay. Touchback point. So we're at 28 with one to go. That brings us to, do do do do do do do do do do do. Zero. Do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do. Nerd nugget of Super Bowl 58. It keeps getting worse. Zero. Do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do big set of from here on out. You didn't say anything. With the 49ers. Literally, you could just be like,

and the nerd nugget is PFT, Big Cat, and Hank are getting a million dollars from me. I'd be like, zero. Okay. With the 49ers and Chiefs having no Alabama players on the active roster, a remarkable streak will continue. No player who finished college at Alabama has scored a point in the history of the Super Bowl players from

143 other colleges ranging from the Coast Guard One point to Miami 84 have scored in a Super Bowl. That's that's that is a good strategy I gotta say but it is it's zero for me, but it's that's a great stat It's it was a great stat. The only thing is to finish Because jail and hurts, but it's true. Yeah So zero so hang on here, but how many how many players drop out early because they're Well, not really degree. Is this a degree set like no player with a degree college at Alabama So I don't know what that means wait Devonta Smith in school. This is from Josh Dubo the AP. Oh, okay So I need to from Hank to graduate.

What happens if you don't graduate? I don't think anything. I'll give you one and a half. Give him one point nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine That is that is a good Alabama. It's a super bowl. That's a stunning stat. Jake, we did agree. It's a good stat. It's a great score that we gave you zero, which means nothing. Doesn't. Yeah. The song was three times longer.

Conservatively, I mean, I had to. That was a fish jam. You just did. It was free bird. But those are your nuggets of the twenty twenty four. That is a crazy stat. Like I don't now is it touchdown throws? No, Coast Guard got one point.

Well, Jalen hurts. Well, you should have. Coast Guard. You should have. You scored a touchdown. So touchdown throws. Throw a phone call. You must have kicked one.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You must have kicked one. The person who like like in fantasy. They have to score the touchdown. But like, yeah, like you're betting on an anytime touchdown score. Mm hmm. I that's that is crazy.

It's crazy. The fact that it's Alabama is insane. Yeah. OK. People from the Coast Guard have. Yeah. All right. Good job, Jake. Thanks. Yeah. Not good enough. Twenty nine point nine nine nine nine nine nine.

Yep. Yeah. I mean, if you're for that was a great start. So it was kind of thanks. It just happened that way. I completely lost track of the scores So yeah Back a boy had you after like Said we got our best guy on it. Yeah, I think he was being I got three of the fd scores I'm the best big boy. Yeah, yeah, I've added some to the bonk list this week. Hank, to back you up.

Nice. I don't know. I haven't done a single horny thing this week while watching my Miley Cyrus on TV. Yeah. Final thoughts about the soup bowl. Anything. What? What? Who's wearing white? Chiefs are I think. No, chiefs wearing red. Oh, they are.

Oh, oh. That means something. That hurts you. Why why I just feel like the chiefs red. Although no chiefs and white That's what that's what scares me. All right, please Yeah, chiefs and whites scare me. I have one more prop over 75 Yeah, yeah over 75. I wonder what the alt-line to that actually would be in wait So what are the chiefs wear in the first one that they played? They played, they were red in the 49ers one,

so they won that one. They wore red in the box one. They won that one. Did they wear red last year? They were white. They were not in the box one. You're right. They're one in one in red.

What did they wear last year? I think they were white last year. I think they were white. So they're, so in, they're one in one. Yeah. Okay. So they're beatable. They're beatable and beatable in red and they can win.

And they can win. But they're beatable. That's like all the stats and everything that I've looked up this past, you know, whatever, however, however long we've been thinking about the Super Bowl is it just always leads back to these two teams are really good. I don't know who's going to win. Yeah. I'm fucked. I just I love the idea of Brock Purdy winning a Super Bowl.

And then for the next like 10 years, people are going to be like, you know, you just got to find like a Brock Purdy. Yeah, seventh round of the draft. Yeah, that's all I am a little bit of money. Yeah. Yeah. OK, before we get to our interview with George Kittle, want to shout out our friends at Super Cuts. If you want a free haircut after this year's big game.

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haircuts, nothing better. SupercutsHighScore.com to register, read the terms and conditions and for eligibility. That's SupercutsHighScore.com to register today. Okay, here he is, George Kittle. Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very, very special guest, one of our good friends. Pardon, you can't tell the story of the history of Pardon My Take without George Kittle. We're here Super Bowl week. He was able to get us access to the hotel. George, first of all, thank you for doing that.

We're excited to have you back on. Back at the Super Bowl. Yeah. Well, first, thanks for having me back. I'm still wearing my recurring guest shirt. Yeah, it's coming. It's coming. It's coming. It's coming. It's coming. It's been a while ago, right? Like three years ago. Three people have those shirts. I think Rachel Nichols has one, Spencer Hawes has one and Randy Moss has the other. Yeah. Those are three good people to have them. Well, the horse racing, Randy Moss, white Randy Moss. Yeah. So, all right. So you, so we,

we have told this story before, but the first time we ever met George was when we were actually at 49ers camp in 2018. That's what was your rookie year? It was 18 because she was there. 18 and we interviewed Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch and yeah, and Joe Staley and Staley said to us, they're like, Hey, we got this rookie tight end. It was a big fan of you guys. Can you just take a picture? And we're like, uh, yeah, this rookie tight end, he was a big fan of you guys, can you just take a picture? And we're like, yeah, I guess, we'll take a picture with a fan.

It turns out he's the best tight end in the league. So that was fun. And then we had John for the Super Bowl in Miami. Didn't go great. But my first question is, that clip of you on the sideline, are you sick of that clip yet? Of you saying I will be back.

I get tagged into a bunch. A bunch, for sure. I'm like, I do a pretty good job of like not diving into all the like the Super Bowl social media stuff. So like, I don't see it too often. I do like, I click on the tag button. That's most of my tagged photos and tweets and what are they called? They're still called tweets. Yeah, X's. It's really a deal. Posts, X videos. Yeah, you're featured on one of the most viewed X videos of all time, which is pretty cool. You and Drake, he's one of this. You did, you did, you did.

Have you seen the Drake video? He burst onto the scene this morning. Yeah, I think he leaked that himself. He looks good. He looks great. He looks good. I saw, they saw him talking about it, they were like, it doesn't hurt him by the way.

Yeah, not at all. If someone who has bad angles all the time on the internet, I would say that was a good angle. That was a great angle. That was a great angle. But in that clip, it wasn't that you said like, I will be back. You said I will be back with a vengeance.

So do you have a vengeance right now? Yeah, it's building up. You know, it's not something like, I'm not sitting in vengeance right now, like just, you know, like oozing vengeance. No, it's nothing like that. It's just, you know, like oozing vengeance. No, it's nothing like that. It's just, you know, you learn from your opportunities. You, I mean, you can like sit in sorrow and stuff like that.

Or I also like, my dad always tells me, speak things into existence. So like, hey man, that one got away from me. I want to be back speaking into existence and I have another opportunity and know, hopefully you'll see that side of me on Sunday. I want to see vengeance on something. Yeah, I do too.

I would love to see it. Would that mean I win? Yeah, yeah. I would love'll see that side of me on Sunday. I want to see vengeance on yeah I do too. I would love to see it. I would that mean I win. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, I would love I would love to see that Are you treating it like you've been to a Super Bowl? So have you are you doing anything different or are you just like it's football? We're playing football Um playing football like I definitely learned things like the biggest thing like when you go to a Super Bowl like the flashing lights The interviews the people that want to take you places, the restaurants are like, oh, hey, come eat here. Your agent wants to get food with you.

My agent actually hasn't asked me to, so good for him. But that's the story I hear from everybody. And I think the last time we went to Miami, I think you get caught up in the hype of the Super Bowl. And I think it's the team who does the best job of sticking to your routine, making sure your body's so healthy, your mind's healthy, and that you're ready to roll and not really worrying about the outside stuff. Yeah. So I think that's one of the best things we like sticking to your routine, making sure your body's healthy, your mind's healthy, and that you're ready to roll

and not really worrying about the outside stuff. Yeah. So I think that's one of the best things we've learned as a team. Annoying podcasters asking you to come on their show. No, this is like, this is always great for me. Yeah, I love this. We appreciate that very much.

Because we have no, it's very funny how we're set up. We have, the NFL gives us no access whatsoever. Doesn't want us near anything. And then this would be two years in a row where we're just like waltz into the team hotel. Yeah. Like, yeah, we're OK. Yeah. I like you guys. Yeah. You guys have my stamp of approval. I appreciate that.

Last time it was before the Super Bowl, we interviewed you and you talked about your dad writing you the letters. Yeah. Did he blame himself for not writing a good enough letter? Oh. Is it because I bet you he's going to have a hell of a letter for you on Sunday. Yeah. No, I will say he definitely was like Wow, that's actually a great. That's a great question. You know internally he probably blames himself, but he would never say that to me Yeah, you know what? I think me and big cat made you a visual letter I think we put a video out again or do it again. No, don't do it. We I think maybe it's us

We should take the blame for that. You should take the blame. Yeah Well, yeah, I've told you and that I'm doing game of the year right now as of right now in the Chiefs, which is good for you because I'm the worst game of the year. I am my heart is all Niners. I want you to win a Super Bowl very, very badly that I will like get in front of the train and hopefully lose money for you to win a Super Bowl because I want you to be a Super Bowl winner.

How could you be a better friend than that? Yeah, it's like I just want I want you to have you need you deserve a Super Bowl because I want you to be a Super Bowl winner. How could you be a better friend than that? Yeah, it's like I just want you to have, you deserve a Super Bowl ring. Thank you. And you seem like a guy who wear it all the time, if you get one. I would like to wear it. Yes.

That'd be fun. That'd be a fun opportunity. I also noticed that you've officially made it and I wanna say you've made it because I feel like you don't make it until one of those Twitter ex guys Influencers like a Joe Pumpley on or one of those guys does a long thread about someone So I saw there was a long thread about you the other day was there which was very cool What was it? I didn't I didn't know some of the story

So it was basically about like your perseverance. Oh, I did my mom tell me that yeah It was very cool. So I had no idea, and you could tell the story obviously because it's your life, but you, on National Signing Day, there was a chance you were just not gonna go to Iowa. Yeah, there was. So what exactly transpired? They basically, I didn't talk to a single coach. Like I went to a couple of Iowa football camps growing up.

You know, it did fine, but like in high school, I was like six, one and a half, six, two, 175 pounds. Not a lot going on there. And so my dad was in contact with one of their coaches because my dad played there. Kirk Ferrance was in my dad's wedding, my parents' wedding. So they had that relationship. And they're like, Hey, we have a couple of scholarship offers out. If they all say no. hey, George might get one. If they say yes, we can talk about doing a gray shirt, which is like you show up a whole semester early and you start that following off season.

That would have been tough. Yes. Those, that's not fun. But there's like, and then on Sunday, like chilling, having an offer from Weber State, Air Force and Navy. It's my three offers, super sick. That's crazy. You've been awesome at Navy. So my three offers, super sick. That's crazy.

You've been awesome at Navy. You literally were told like, yeah, there's two guys that if they say yes, you're just shit out of line. So like two guys said no, and then they gave a scholarship to a offensive lineman, defense lineman from Illinois, and then I got the last one.

That's insane. That was awesome. And like, you'd have to, you do think about that moment where it's like, hey, things could have been very different if you go to Air Force Navy like you probably can't play in the pros You got to be in the Air Force of the Navy. You're not wrong. Yeah. Yeah It would have been and now you're the best tight end Travis Kelsey said that by the way That is the best tight end in the NFL. Thanks Travis. It's an it's an awesome story

I had no idea and the whole the thread also was like, you know, when he got there, he was small and and he was. Yeah, it stunk. But but Kirk Ferenc was basically like this guy doesn't quit. He's got a motor and and getting into it. What was it between your sophomore and junior year or junior and senior year? Going into my red shirt, junior and red shirt. See like my red shirt junior year. So like my fourth year of college, like that's when the switch like the light bulb

went off and I was like, ah, football. What was it? What was it that like flipped for you? It was a combination of the bowl game we played in the tax layer bowl and we lost like a billion to zero to Tennessee. Okay. That's like an Iowa tradition. Yeah, it is an Iowa tradition.

I was over four in bowl games, super fun. Okay. But like we lost that game and I was like fourth on the depth chart and I got younger guys ahead of me and stuff and I was like, oh this this sucks. Like I'm definitely not like I'm not gonna achieve my dream. I have like I have two years left. I've been kind of like squandering a little bit and then literally that offseason that's like whatever winter workouts and stuff like that. Pat Enger was in the building and Kirk Ferrance always told the story about how Pat like his first two and a half years at Iowa, just kind of got hammered, went out all the time was like,

and then he would fight people. So he'd get in trouble all the time. I just asked him, I was like, what, like what switch flip for you? And he was like, I was like, I just realized that I like football a lot. And I liked that more than partying. And I was like, I like the party and I love football. So I'm going to try that same thing, literally just kind of reprioritized my goals and it just kind of a switch flip for me,

started making plays in practice and then not gonna lie either, like there were a couple of injuries ahead of me too. And so I just got thrown into an opportunity and I took advantage of it. That's awesome. That's awesome. I mean, it's crazy because you see

everyone is playing in the Super Bowl, you're like, oh, they were the best for their whole life. Like they were, you know, so it's like, no, they were the best for their whole life. Like they were you know So it's like no, it's it's that that's a grind. Yeah, it's a grind People don't see so I'm happy for that thread that we got posted. Thank you man. Yeah, it was a fun one What about when you get to the league was there because we're talking to Max Crosby the other day And he was saying that he got mother fuck for his first like six weeks eight weeks of being on the team and camp He would pull up all his clips and practice be like, well, you did everything wrong here, basically. So when

you got to the NFL, did you like hit the ground running? Or was there like a big learning curve for you? A little bit of both. What was really beneficial for me was with Coach Shanahan's run game, outside zone gap scheme. That's what we did to Iowa. So like when they showed up, like, I was like, Oh, I know how to do this. Like that's good. I'm great. And like, and like it took me a while to, you know, get used to blocking like all NFL football players and stuff like that.

Like I did a really good job in rookie mini camp. OTAs had a great job. My first training camp, like I got hurt. Like I think it was like the first day of pads. I pulled my hamstring. That was tough. But like I was doing really well in the run game stuff. So like I had no worries there.

And then the past game stuff, I just kind of picked up, but like I made some big plays and OTAs like they were like, oh, this kid can play a little bit. And then like I had one preseason game where I scored a touchdown. CJ threw me a ball in the flat and I ran and I like broke a tackle in the end zone. And they traded are starting tight in the next day. And I was like, oh, hey, OK, you're like the Leo meme like me. I'm it's me now. I was like, what, hey, okay. You're like the Leo meme, like me, it's me now. I was like, what?

I'm not, what? And then, but like I did have that also like the, like I did get yelled at. I'll never forget my rookie year. We're playing Minnesota preseason game. And like, I wouldn't say I was going through the motions. I was just kind of like, wow, this is really cool. I'm in a football player, but like, I didn't have like,

I wasn't like dialed in at that time. And I had like three or four MAs in a row in the first half and I come in at halftime and my old tight ends coach He's in Miami now John Embry. He like I'm like going into listen to Kyle like break down. Hey, this is what we're gonna do And then one of the guys like hey Embry wants to see you and coach locker. I'm like, oh great This is gonna be a great conversation. I go in there I've never been yelled at like that in my entire life and John Embrace like I view him like he's like my dad in the NFL out and nothing but respect for the guy like he's one of the reason I am wearing

the day and like just helped me develop a mindset but he's basically just said he's like what do you think you're doing like you are squandering your opportunity you have an opportunity to be a starting tight in the NFL figure it out are you gonna play or you just gonna are you gonna screw it off and you're gonna lose this opportunity You're never gonna have an opportunity again like this is your opportunity go do something Light switch flip had a great second half played at a high level and it just kind of took off from there That's awesome. So if you had to pick right now

Scoring a touchdown. Yep or pancake block because you had both in the in these playoffs so far you have the touchdown against the Packers and then you had both in these playoffs so far. You had the touchdown against the Packers and then you had the Pancake Block on Aidan Hutchison which was football porn. Which one do you like to do more? That was literally just for the NFC North too. Yeah, you did, you just conquered the NFC North. I did text you before the Packers game,

I was like, you are my Lord and Savior, please protect me. That was a great name. And you were like, I got you. That was a great name that you sent me. Yeah, I needed it. You didn't need it. you were like, I got you. That was a great meme that you sent me. Yeah, I needed it. Oh, you didn't mean it. In a Super Bowl, I think I would take a touchdown because like those are hard to come by.

Yeah. But yeah, I mean like, dude, you got a nice block and Christian runs right off of it and he like, he goes for 20 yards and just like, ah, that was very fulfilling. So yeah, I like pancakeing people, especially defensive ends. Yeah, and you also love just catching the ball

and just dominating people. You do not want to defensive ends. Yeah, and you also love just catching the ball and just dominating people You do not want to go down. No, yeah, I don't get I like I don't get that many opportunities So when I get the ball, I don't really want to get tackled. Yeah. Yeah, I like to score The other pancake on Aiden was great because when we watched it We were like I guarantee you he's laughing during this play and then NFL films puts out the clip later in the week Yeah, and it was like yeah, you are laughing like during the play. And what was the word he said? He said, receptive, appropriate.

Yeah, you messed with his proprioceptiveness. He's our helmets got a little clicked together. And he was like, I messed with my proprioception. And I was like, that's not a football word. Yeah, that's a kid from Michigan. That's a Michigan guy being like, you beat the fuck out of me. Yeah, I guess I was like, I'm more of a like a perturbation guy. Like that's the term that I would use.

But like proprioception, sure, I get it. But I think like 75% of the people that watch that were like, I got I was like I'm more of a like a perturbation guy like that's the term that I would use but like proper reception Sure, I get it But I think like 75% of people that watch that were like I gotta Google that yeah, how often do you laugh during a game? 75% of it. Yeah, I love it. I was chuckling to myself the entire time because it must be fun to just run people over I would laugh too. It's a highlight of my life. I just like I see like D. Bo make a cool catch like haha So you want to touchdown you want to touch on super I get that I also I was just told downstairs that an Iowa player has never scored in Super Bowl oh wow it'd be a big first what is it about Iowa that you guys just can't play offense

and then you have the best tight ends in the league it's crazy um Porter Hawkins and you know a fan, like, but then you watch Iowa football. They had more punt yards than offensive yards. Torrey Taylor, a punt guard. You know what, man? I don't know what it is. I don't know if it's a combination of, you know,

they have a lot of young guys, recruiting's a part of it. Like, I'm not in the building every single day. I don't see it, but like, the defense obviously is doing really good things. They're coached well. Like, I think the team's coached well. It's just, you just gotta have,

I think they just gotta have to kind of reboot the offense. It's just like, you just gotta try something different. Like Wisconsin tried something different. Like was it amazingly successful? No. But was it better than Iowa's? Yeah. It was. So like just try something different.

Cause if you keep pouring out like a top five offense and top five special teams unit and you have a top 80 offense, you're gonna win win games and the fact that they won 10 games this year. It's crazy You should have won 11. Yeah, they should have yeah Yeah, it was BS. Yeah, no it was an edge of they won 11 game. What if they would have stuck into the play? That would have been honestly, that's what I was rooting for so I think you tweeted something about that or x something about it It was crazy because I think I'm the only one like I always think the Badgers and the Hawkeyes are kind of like long lot that I said they're like Kane and Undertaker

They're like yeah, they're long-lost brothers where they play a very similar style of football Yeah, and then we went to the running gun this year and you guys just keep sucking it off It's but you're winning games and I'm like I might be the only football fan in the world who was like I kind of want that Like I wish that we were Iowa this year because there's something about it. Like you're winning games. That's what's the cool part. Winning is really fun.

Doesn't matter how it happened, just winning is fun. Winning is so much fun. Like every game was like 12 to six. That was crazy. Incredible. I think their over-under was like 30 in all their games and they still went like 11 to one. Did they have like two of the lowest over on there?

Yeah. The history of college football. Yeah, it was just, yeah. One, it was Northwestern. Yeah. Iowa. 28 and a half. I bet the over on that at Wrigley Field.

Yeah. And it was just, it was just. Was it the under? Oh yeah. Oh yeah, big time. I think there were maybe 12 or 17. It was like 10 or something. Yeah.

It was incredible. It was tough. I respect the hell out of Iowa fans because they show up and they are the drunkest fanbase I've ever seen They drink more than they drink Wrigley Field out. Yeah, they did they drink out Wrigleyville, too Yeah bars ran out of beer. There was a guy that was so I go I go see I went to dinner before the game like the Friday night before The game and I went to like a nice steakhouse and it was just full of people wearing their nicest Iowa pole Pullovers yeah, and like oh, I got my golf shirt like I'm

getting dressed up tonight first thing gotta have high oil on the game off I was in the bathroom at Wrigley Field and they have like the troth style urinal amazing and the this dude comes in Iowa fan head to toe and just goes up right next to me at the troth takes his pants down and starts to take a shit. And the drop. Dude's rock. Dude's rock. And everyone in the bathroom was like, dude, stop, stop, stop. Dude, don't do that. The game hasn't kicked off yet. Wait till half time for this, bro.

Yeah. But yeah, I do respect Iowa football. Do you have a touchdown celebration plan in case you score? Well, I got asked this yesterday because it's on Nickelodeon. So I was like, there has to be like some type of SpongeBob dance that you can do. Yeah. Like they're bringing it around town or something like that.

SpongeBob is a football guy. Jim Harbaugh taught us that he's one of you. Right. He's one of Jim Harbaugh's relentless enthusiasm. He just goes to work every day flipping patties. And he loves it. He loves it. He loves the guy.

Do you think a Krabby Patty like what burger do you think most closely a Krabby Patty would relate to? Probably are they are they square? This is a problem. You so you might be. you've unfortunately hit a point where PFT and I are a little too old. Max is laughing right now, cause we kinda miss SpongeBob.

But you know what a Krabby Patty is. Kind of, it's the burgers that he makes. Yeah, the burgers that he makes, cause you have no idea. We watched one SpongeBob episode, super high. Yeah, they're not there yet though. We did, on the way to the pool. They're not, can't watch that yet? No, they Yeah, they're not there yet, though. We did. Yeah. Like, intelligently, like they're not.

Can't watch that yet or no. Old enough. They they watch weird, like fucking. I'm watching these two Russian kids named Vlad and Nikki play with their toys. It's fucked up. What's the thing on YouTube that has like a billion followers? Ms. Rachel. Yeah. I've heard about her. Listen, when you're when a kid finds a new show, you're just like,

oh, my God, like this is going to be painful. But yeah, I look forward to the day I get to SpongeBob. But yeah, PFC and I, we watched one SpongeBob episode like super, super high and we're like, this was funny. But I don't yeah, we missed it. I wish I wish we were SpongeBob. It is funny. Like I appreciate the show. I could probably go back and watch the entire catalog right now. The first like 10 years is phenomenal television. That's a lot of years. That's how many years? I don't know.

What are they on now? It's been on for like 20 something. 20, 20, 25. Like the first 10 years are absolutely outrageous. Fuck. Okay. Do a SpongeBob dance. I like that.

Yeah. That's a good idea. Always dab again. Let me ask you. Dab is coming back. It will never die as long as I'm here. And I love the dab. So the playoff games this year, you guys have come back big time in both games.

Were you guys aware of the Kyle Shanahan staff that they show on Fox? I did. Dude, the amount of that's all I get asked. OK, our week after every loss. Hey, do you guys know that you lost again? I mean, did you guys sell? Did you tell Kyle after you're like, hey dude, you got one? You did.

No, I didn't say it to Kyle. I should have. I'll go say it to him right now after this. He's got two now. I think. Hey, look at him. Look at us. Yeah, look at us.

Who would have thought? What's top about that stat, too, is our first two years, we weren't very good. Yeah, you were like, wasn't there a year you guys were two and 14? No, that was before us. My rookie year, we started the year 0 and 9. And then Jimmy G came, we won the last five, pause. We won the last five games.

And then the next year, he got hurt and we went four and 12. Which was like, yeah, we're not gonna, that's just a tough stat. Like we weren't a good team. Right, if you're down 21 in the fourth quarter that unfortunately adds to the stat. Yeah. Which is like, okay, we weren't a good team right if you're down 21 in the fourth quarter that unfortunately adds to the stat Yeah, it's like okay. We're gonna come back. We were down 14 points often. That's true

All right, so that stat is bullshit. It is it is bullshit What did you know that you're gonna win though? When did when did you think okay? We got this the Lions game? Yeah, um When they went for it on four down to get it dammit We've defended didn't Campbell on that when they when that didn't hit and we go down and score a touchdown instantly and then we got the fumble. I was like, ah, yeah, that's out of the bag. Like we're rolling. It's the best. Um the best way to determine whether or not a call is correct or not isn't necessarily through numbers. It's like

what the opposing team and their fans want you to do in that situation. So did you want him to go for it? Yeah. You didn't want to feel goal, even though the kicker is not very good. He looked great that night. Every every chip shot. All those trips out there were so slow and so soft. They just kind of fell into this.

We're going to cut this part of the podcast. So you were hoping for him to go for a fourth down. Well, I think I think I'm not in the defensive meetings, but like I think we plan for them to go for every fourth down, like fourth and four or less. We're like, they're for them to go for every fourth down like right fourth and four Unless we're like they're probably gonna go for like why not would it would have been equal momentum if he had attempted to feel Goal missed. I think it would have been very yeah Yeah, that would have been yeah, there we go. We're back Justin. Yeah, so like either one like and

The fact that they did that the entire season That's like that's their MO like that is their identity, like, okay, like if you're a player on that staff, how could you be mad at you doing that? Right. Right. You should. They went for the kill. Yeah, they did. They went for the kill because you score a touch on there and you go up would have been 21. Right. That's that's kind of a tough one to come back from. That was always our point with how Dan Campbell coached this year is like the for us sitting on the

couch for like, what the fuck is he doing? But everyone on that sideline knows before the game, like this is, these are the situations we're attacked. What's that, what's that like high school coach that they never pun in? Yeah, that guy rocked. Yeah, for sure. But just like when you have that mindset of like, hey, if we get it to within fourth and three,

we're going for it no matter what, like you just have like a confidence about it. And it's just like your whole team has that confidence. So it's like, yeah, why would we not go for it? We've done it the entire season. And I'm assuming their percentage on it's pretty good. It is good. It was 17 for 20 on fourth and three or less.

Pretty damn good. Yeah, why would you not? Like again, even if you bleed off another three minutes on the clock, even if you kick a field goal three plays later, you're still running time off the clock. Like, okay. Now, hey, I'm happy that they went for it and missed. So all right, the other game, the Packersers game I said you dropped a ball I did but I said that you

are probably the number one guy that like who drops a ball and you're like alright Kail's gonna do something awesome coming up do you when you drop a ball are you like I'm next play like throw it to me right now I'm ready to go yeah please give me the ball back yeah I'm sorry that I had a lapse of football brain Yeah, because it does feel like you bounce back faster than anyone Yeah, man You got to flip the switch it like you what I've learned in football is like you can't let things snowball good or bad Like you can have a great play, but if like you go into the next like oh, I'm so cool and stuff

Who know like you can like your legs taken off from underneath you shit like that so like I just try to reset after every single play and but like when you have a mess up and also like I feel like I hold myself through a high standard of play. It's like when you do something like that, you're like, all right, let's not do that again. Let's just go out there and do something good.

All right, so I was right. Do you just wipe it? Do you just like act like the play didn't happen or do you use it as motivation? Like next play, I got this. Cause I feel like those are two very different mindsets to tap into. Like it's flushed for me. Like I didn't think about it again until people tweeted at me and they're like,

I hate you. And I was like, yeah, I'm sorry. I caught a ball two plays later. I'm right. Yeah. Right. The rain was bad though. Dude, that was crazy. Yeah. It is crazy. And so like then you switch to the leather gloves, which are awesome. Like when it's really wet, those things are like glue. It's super cool. But like the second it stops raining and the ball's dry, very slippery. And so like you can see like in the,

like I literally just turned my head cause like if you're wearing the normal sticky gloves, like you don't have to, like you can catch it. Like it's pretty easy. Those things, ball hit just slipped right through them. And I looked at it, I was like, oh, damn. Well, are you ready for the turf in Vegas? Cause I don't want another turf incident.

Well, two years in a row, we've got the sod father pulling his tricks last year in the Super Bowl this year. They got you on UNLV's field, which I guess you guys are practicing on pillows. I don't know how soft that is. Is that overblown or is that a real thing? To me, it's overblown. Okay.

Like, excuse me. That was a good burp. Yeah. To me, it's overblown. Like I've it's over going like I've played on bad fields. I've played on bad fields in the NFL. I've practiced on bad fields. Like we were in Colorado Springs last year and our practice field was frozen and there are divots everywhere and we still practice like now grinding wasn't like a full speed thing, but like we got through it. It's field is not that.

Okay. They're trying really hard on it. They're out there. They're drying it. It was a little soft because of the water. Like, yeah, poured rain three days in a row. It's a new grass. Yeah. But by the time we get there tomorrow, I'm not really concerned with it. Yeah.

Yeah. But you gotta be ready. You gotta bring some extra cleats for, like they wheel this grass in. I don't fucking, We've talked like, hey, have your seven studs ready. Okay.

That type of stuff. I know it's crazy though. Like 2019, we played in Washington and thats ready, that type of stuff. You know what's crazy though? Like, 2019, we played in Washington, and that monsoon, the mud bowl thing, I didn't wear seven studs in that. Like, I've never worn seven studs. I always just wear my cleats. I don't slip very often though.

Well, you just, what about last year when the bear, that game was crazy too? I didn't play in that one. Okay. Yeah, I know. The mayor of Chicago asked me to not play in that game, so you guys could get a win.

Yes, we did. And then don't remember that guy, then he tweeted, you guys all predicted that the bear, how many me to not play in that game. So you guys could get a win. Yes. And then don't remember that guy. Then he tweeted, you guys are predicted that the bears, how many games did you win too? Yeah, no, it was how many games was it too? Yeah, he was, the bears were two and one. He's like, huh, so much for these media pundits being like, the bears are going to suck this year.

And they're going to go two and 14. Year three and 14. And then we went three and 14. Two and one to three and 14. It was great. I was like, that was the best. It was the best. Gabriel. Yeah, it was so good.

So good. Such a great tweet. Such an idiot. You did play in DC this year though. So that's a bad field. Mike, that was fine. It was good this year. It was fine.

I like, I didn't notice it. Like, like some grass fields in December, like they're a little slick and like there's some sand and stuff, but like, I'd rather play on that. Like Cincinnati's turf fields brutal New Orleans turf field brutal. Like, I don't like I'd rather play on that, like Cincinnati's turf field's brutal, New Orleans turf field brutal. Like I don't know how those guys play on it, because like how sore you are after doing stuff on turf, like your ankles, this your joints,

it's just like, oh my God, like I have to sleep in a nice tub. And like when you play on grass, like I never feel like that. Like there's other bumps and bruises, but like it just adds to it. We're a grass podcast for sure. We're for the players.

Thank you. Player safety. How did we convince the World Cup? Oh, because they're changing it. Yeah, still. They're changing it for the soccer players. Yes. So they're all for the soccer players. They're changing it. They're bringing grass on all all stadiums that are turf and they're also not using the names of the stadiums. They're just being like it's Dallas Stadium. It's New York Stadium. San Francisco Stadium. Yeah. Is it San Francisco Stadium or Santa Clara Stadium? Santa Clara Stadium.

Probably. Oh. Yeah. I think so, yeah. Interesting. All right, so your quarterback gets a lot of, let's say, media fodder. Oh, that's a good word.

Brock Purdy, for some reason, it's every single game. It's like, if he has not a great game, he stinks. If he has a great game, he's elite. Does he tune out all of that? And I would assume that you guys have full trust in him. Like it's kind of funny to you to see all this discussion. Tune out. Yes. I don't like, I don't think he's not very active on social media at all, which like good for him. Yeah.

As you shouldn't be like when you're the quarterback of the San Francisco 49ers and you're following Joe Lontan and Steve Young, the expectations are pretty high for you when like you lace it up, you know, a quarterback. So, I think he does a good job, he doesn't really do any social media stuff. Like, I think he has like two posts this whole year, which is like, hey, good for you, man. Like, he's just focused on winning.

And yeah, I think everybody has confidence in him. Everyone has trust in him. Like, you just see the plays, he makes you like, oh wow. Like, he had four intercepts for his ball tomorrow. After the third one, I was like, hey, please keep throwing it. Don't get scared. Like, don't sit back there and like, ah, I don't know Hey, please keep throwing it. Don't get scared. Like, don't, don't sit back there and like, I don't know if I

should just throw it. It happens, man. Like, we're going to get through this with her. Like we're, we're not going to get through this without you. Like we need you. So like you're the guy that we're really good because of you. Yeah, it breaks my heart that he's not active on social media. And you probably haven't seen this yet, but this just came out today, a comparison of Brock Purdy to another guy in American history. Let me show you because it's actually fascinating. So, um, FDR, here we go right here. This is from Josh, Josh Chavis. Been trying to figure out who Brock Purdy looks like for the last two years, and

it's Lee Harvey Oswald. And look at that. There's Brock. And then there's Lee. Yeah. Pretty wild, huh? kind of look like gunslingers. Yeah, that middle photo looks. Yeah, I'll give it that one. Yeah, that you can see it, right? Yeah, maybe show that to Brock. We sent that to me. Yeah, 100% throw it to him. Yeah, that's brought. What are you doing? Yeah.

Yeah, you back from the dead. All right, so given the fact that you guys are in the Super Bowl this year. Yeah, we are. That's cool. Last year, obviously, Brock guys are in the Super Bowl this year. Yeah, we are. That's cool. Last year, obviously Brock got hurt in the NFC Championship game. I think the fact that you're in the Super Bowl

just proves that you guys were way better than the Eagles. I said it. You said it. Do you agree? I think you would have won that game easily. I was a huge fan of our game plan. Yeah, I was a huge fan of everything. Yeah, a lot of Eagles fan, none in this room, yeah, I was a huge fan of everything. Yeah. A lot of Eagles fan note none in this room. Max, uh,

are rooting hard against you because they're trying to keep the sanctity of their NFC championship alive. No, don't do that. Yeah. Well, no, that's what max is totally different year, man. And like, look, he doesn't, he thinks it's the same. Look, so this is my thing too. Like if you're an Eagles fan, you should 100% believe that you you know You would have won that game regardless you guys had eagles were fantastic last year Like they played at a high level be the crap out of everybody and you can see like on the tape like yeah They kind of ran through our defense last year you could say that But like you also you look at Brock perry me like you can't lie and not say like that would have been at least a close game Mm-hmm. Yeah, sure like 31 to 7 was that a realistic score? No, no not at all No, hey, now if Brock would have played the whole game

we would have lost like 21-17. Sure, like it is what it is, but like I believe that we would have won with Brock because I think he's such a good player. Yeah, I think you would have too. Or at least it would have been a close game. Cause everyone's like, oh, we beat you by 24. I'm like, dude, come on,

I didn't have a quarterback for two quarters. Yeah, you know what I'm gonna say? No, yeah, I'm not disagreeing with with that that it would have been a close game at least obviously Not having a quarterback is going to take points off of the board for really. Yeah When Krishna Kaffir's playing quarterback, and you have 11 guys in the box. Yeah. Yeah, that was pretty one pretty good for us That was pretty good for the eagles. I was an iron fan that situation situation I would have had a huge I'd be like, ha you guys stink. Yeah, well, that's I've just gotten a lot of Niners Niners fans are are strong online. Oh, yeah, they were there's a lot of them. Yeah But like over any fan base like even like Cowboys fans I get more shit from Niners fans about the Eagles

Yeah, then the Cowboys. Yeah, the faithful. Yeah, man. Yeah, that's why I'm like I've been I've been battling Niners fans about the Eagles than the Cowboys. Yeah, the faithful don't forget man. So that's why I've been battling Niners fans all year. And it wasn't great when you beat the shit out of us this year. So you're saying this right now, but also if the Niners lose in the Super Bowl, you're going to take victory levels for sure. Well, it depends how they lose because we also lost to the Chiefs last year. True. But you won this year.

So we did win this year, right? Can I show you something funny? Yeah. Please. This was like three weeks after we beat the Eagles. My buddy for the Predators, Phil Forsberg, they were going to play Philadelphia Flyers and he sends me this photo.

They're on the bus to the game and this was outside of a coffee shop. T-Bow wasn't lying. It's a sign outside of a Philadelphia coffee shop. That's it D-Bow wasn't lying. Yeah. Well, that was a that was big discourse and then Because everyone was ready to be like shut the fuck up D-Bow. We're better anyway And then we got yeah, and that's starting the demise of Philly. He also had three touchdowns. Yeah When the next player on the field with the big Dom got kicked out where you're like, oh, we got this game. That that whole sequence of

events. I was like, there's no way that we're about to like just give this game up because first off, Dre Greenlaw are one of our best players on defense gone and then we had two fifteen or penalties on that drive on like we're about to give up a touchdown and they're gonna have all the momentum in the world but then forcefully we are able to you know go back and answer an offense that kind of like settled it yeah and put big Dom losing Drake Greenlaws okay like you can figure out a game yeah we'll figure

out big Dom that ended the season yeah he wasn't he wasn't on the sideline for any game right no he was allowed to coach during the week. Yeah, I think he was a box. It's not a good because we're right aside, right? He's a lot of coach. You know, I've heard nothing but a fantastic things about big Tom. Yeah, no, he's a legend.

We're big down podcast. We love it. I would love to meet him. I would love to meet him too. Yeah, he's a legend. You guys have anybody on the team like that's an unsung hero like big Dom? I got a couple.

Well, Mike A. He's our head of security. He's he's cool, dude. He's he was like a motorcycle cop in Oakland for a long time, our head of security. He's, he's cool dude. He was like a motorcycle cop in Oakland for a long time, which was pretty sick. He's the head of security for TitanU. He comes down for TitanU every single year, which is sick. Love that. And then we have a guy in the kitchen, his name's Luis, and he just walks up to you,

he goes, Super Kettle, have a great day today. He says that to everybody. Super Patty. It looks like dude, this. Oh, that's a vibes guy. Oh, yeah. Is he here? Yeah, he's here. Okay. He's like five five. It's incredible. Oh, that's awesome. Super. Louise. It's fantastic. Um, did you see David Kars say that? Uh, yeah, better looking than Travis Kelsey. It was weird. I'm married. Yeah. Thanks. Yeah. Well, he was like, yeah, Taylor Swift, if she saw Greg,

she'd be like, maybe I picked the wrong tight end. That's a weird thing to say. Like, you're married. Yeah. Super weird thing to say. But thanks. Yeah, I think it's a thanks. I think it's a thanks.

It's a compliment, just like from, I don't know, as weird. Yeah. I think you're hotter than Travis Kelsey. Thank you, man. I think I like your style of football better than I like Travis Kelsey style football Hey, look, we both play the same position. We just played differently and an elite level. You guys talked it all this week Yeah, I saw him last night for a little bit. Okay. It's about it. Yeah, cuz he was at T. You he was gonna is he coming back? Yeah No matter what happens on Sunday, I I would hope so because like I lost and then I went to Titania

Oh, that's true or what happens on Sunday? I would hope so because I lost and then I went to Titania. Oh, that's true. So I would assume that he would do the same thing. Well, you did create Titania with Greg, so you kind of would have to, they literally play it in your backyard. They do play it in my backyard. But like you said, the founding fathers

would be me, Travis and Greg. Okay, all right. So I guess he'll be there. Oh yeah, I would assume he's gonna be there. Okay, all right, unless... He's a crazy busy guy though. I can't imagine. Can't imagine.

A lot of commercials. We're not gonna talk about. A lot of commercials. Other things we wanna talk about. You can ask me anything. I just don't know. No, no, no, I don't wanna get you. The goal is to, when you agree to come on Super Bowl Week,

the goal is to get out of this interview clean and we could go down. With no huge headlines. Yeah, we go down a bad path. We've got like five things that I can't stop. No, we're gonna hold it down. Just say them like huge headlines. Yeah, we go down a bad. Got like five things. No, we're going to hold it. Just say I'm not. I might as I was won't respond. Who do you think's gonna be in Taylor's box on Sunday? In the suite? He said box. The suite. I said what I

said box. He said box. I'll pass. Good pass. This might be a regional dialect. Some people say box and people say sweet. Some people say sweet box. I don't have. I have a hype video, I really. It's gonna be a Taylor sweet box. I'm gonna pass on that one. I have a really awesome hype video I wanna show you, but I don't wanna show it to you on air because I don't want then to then turn it against us.

Okay, cool. We'll cut. Yeah, yeah, we'll show it to you after. It's a good video. Yeah, it's a really good video. Really making things about a lot of stuff. Yeah, all right, let's do the last question. Roback question, rhoback.com. Pr right. Let's do the last question. Roback question.

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Last. Your coach, who we're big fans of, Kyle Shanahan. Yes, sir. Probably two or three times a year, he wears the legends hoodie with pardon my take on it. Yeah. Does he know what we are? Yeah. Okay.

Every time I see it, I'm like, I think he's wearing it because it's a comfortable hoodie. That is the main reason. That is the main reason. But he's also aware of who we are. We had him on. Kyle's a creature of habit. We're like, whatever whatever he walks into his office

and then whatever is the closest thing to him or like whatever we've won in. Oh, I'm gonna wear that again. Okay. He's like a normal football guy. He's superstitious about weird things, but like, yeah. So we need to get him more of them. If you get him more stuff, he would only wear it.

I'm pretty sure he's got a pretty good track record because he wore it during the playoffs last year. I remember that. That was not the Eagles week. I think that wasn't this week. It was and you guys won that game It might might not be the worst thing if you put it on for the post game press conference. Yeah After a win and Super Bowl throw it out there if you brought it on ask him Does he does he like bring you in for the meetings and he's like, okay? Here's the game play this week Christian's getting three touchdowns.

Yes, what is it? Is it like a disappointment if Christian McCaffrey scores one touchdown? Yeah, I mean, I think the the surest bet in all of sports is Christian McCaffrey. He just scores every time no matter what What's like you're I think like running backs you should score touchdowns Especially when you get down to the red zone like we're gonna especially in our offense You can see that in the seven years that I've been here is we get to the red zone, we're gonna run the ball and try to run the ball and then you throw Christian into it and it's like, okay, well, we're gonna design a play for D-bo to score, you could be the second read, George, you're gonna be

here and then fourth read, one-on-one versus their milk check is gonna be Christian McCaffrey and oh, that's an easy, just lob it in there. So it's like, it's kind of like we're all just running distraction outs for Christian, which I'm totally fine with because hey, if you do win, hey, I'll hit you. But if you don't win, Christian's the easiest check down in the world because he's going to break one tackle. Maybe Kyle Ushak score a touchdown. By the way, does Kyle Ushak hate us?

Why? For Quigs. Yeah, who's Quigs? Yeah, so for people who don't know, Quigs. Who's Quigs? Quigs is one of our, Quigs is a great editor. What are we doing? Quigs is a very, very important part of our stool. Quiggs likes to troll online.

Quiggs tweeted, I'm I'm commenting on all of her names. Kristen Kristen, Kristen Youshak's Instagram posts with her jackets just saying tacky. Chris Kristen found that tweet and replied and was like, that's not very nice. Almost instantly, I assume the chain of command went Kristen to Kyle. I saw it on Twitter. No. Oh, you saw it.

I saw the response. George texted me a screenshot. He said, who the fuck is this guy? I'm going to beat his ass. And I was like, I never thought I'd be in a spot where I have to defend Quiggs. I know. But yeah, Quiggs is not.

He's a very good guy. He just likes to have fun online. But it was a very fun, I sent it to Quiggs and he was like, oh fuck. So is Kyle mad at us? Was he aware of it? I don't, I haven't talked to him about it. But I did, I should.

We love him. I sent your response back to Kristen and she said, thanks for having my back, we got this. And I was like, yeah. Yeah, cause I sent, I sent your response to Quiggs and he said oh fuck I'm fucked. And I was like no I got your back. Quiggs when I see you. I can't wait.

He's so sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I would be a little bit afraid of Quiggs. Not for what he can do to you physically but what he can do to you online. I'm going to somehow find a way to get the Swifties to hate him. Oh, okay. And then it doesn't matter.

Yeah, that's very true. Could they topple a government? Yeah, we've survived. They're about to at the election. I got it bad. You did get it bad. I got it so bad. I got it from all fronts.

I'm honestly just impressed. It's incredible. It was a tough week. The worst part actually was that my wife's a Swifty and I kept on trying to explain to her that it was a funny joke all week and she's like, you keep saying it and it's not funny. It's not funny.

She's like, you keep telling me like I don't understand it. She's like, but it's not funny. It's not funny. I was like, I have nowhere to go with this. Stop. You apologize or you just stopped? No, I never apologize.

We just went harder Yeah, we would way harder and then to the point where it's like okay These guys they took it so hard that now it's now it's cool again Yeah, and I have the karma because my kids love listening Taylor Swift I've listened to it every day in the car so it's karma on me. What's your favorite Taylor Swift song? Yeah, this is a love story fantastic. Love stories great all too well Version yeah, she's good. She's good. I have to admit she's a great great artist. Alright, so we're talking about this and like this nothing to do with the game. But like

when did Taylor Swift like her popularity go to like the most she started dating a podcaster? I think that's clearly a full sign. Like was it want to get super famous data podcast. I thought it was after the red album. Yeah, No, she's been she's been the most famous person in the world for very long. Kanye made her famous kind of. Yeah. Oh, shit. No, I didn't mean to say. Yeah. I do not mean to say. I'm not a part of that. I am not a part of that at all. I'm not a part of that at all. Great artist, even better human being being she we actually a Taylor Swift fans You're unreal. Yeah, we're Taylor Swift fans were Swifties were hundred percent. I like she is an incredible artist

Have you ever been to a concert? No phenomenal. I know it's a I've been to two. I really yeah They're Levi's she goes if you leave I say them like whenever she's on tour I have to go. Let me ask you this about Kyle though You guys are juice juice? Cool love juice love fullbacks. Does he are you guys working anything interesting like red zone looks for juice? He scored in the last one. He did. Yeah, he did. He scored the last year. Well, we had we had Boomer on the podcast You know another fun statistic is any game that me and Kyle have both scored and we've won. Oh You want to know another fun statistic?

Jersey Jerry has put Kyle Ushack touchdown in every parlay he's ever done and never won. He's always like, he's always like, I got seven out of my eight. I just need Ushack. Did boomers say first touchdown? No, first touchdown was juice. First touchdown was?

Are you? I think it was juice. No, it was someone else fuck I think I put the I think it was MVS. It was MVS. Okay. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna bet on juice again I I Like we're fans of the all the 49ers, so I did I like you guys too. Yeah, I didn't want to talk time go grab them Trent Williams. Yeah, yeah Brock Purdy, he might be unavailable right now. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Brock Purdy.

He might be unavailable right now. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, we'll walk out with you. And maybe you can just say hi to some guys. Does he respect your blocking game? Yeah, because I would imagine getting a compliment from Trent Williams. It's pretty cool in the blocking game is like as good as it gets. Yeah. I lined up next to a first bout Hall of Famer and he's still playing at a first bout Hall of Fame level to. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like one of the coolest things ever. Is that contagious? Is the physicality contagious? Like you see him lay somebody out and you're like, fuck,

I want to do that. Um, I had that before I played with him. But like when you line up next to him, it's just like, I have zero doubt in my head that we're going to block the heck out of the guy that we're going against. Yeah. Like when we're like, we have a play like, hey, you're going to double team that guy up to the light.

My backer almost like, yeah. Good luck, man. You can get away with anything. It's on your side time to learn That dude will show up. Oh, it's crazy to like I'm just he's like hey don't touch him just go I'm like all right. So good. I'll let you do you man No one else can do that. It's sick There's one pregame thing where Trent came in there was like a scuffle going on and then he shows up and then immediately both sides just clear out. That was the Browns game. The Browns game, yeah. Like it looked like it was gonna come to blows

and then everyone was like, oh, Trent Williams is here. Yeah, I'm gonna head out. Yeah. SpongeBob. Well, George. That's a SpongeBob meme. Yes.

Thank you so much. Yeah, we know it. Best luck in the Super Bowl. We're rooting for you. Know we always pull for you. You can't tell the story of, you can't tell the history of part of my tape without George Kittle. That's a fact That's crazy a fact from the tight end who we were like fuck will take a picture with them Is there gonna be a Greg of the year anytime there could do one? Yeah, I'm so confused that honestly like I don't know

What your name and he corrects people saying I'm Greg. Yeah, I did that to someone the other day on Twitter. Ari. Yeah Well, he said George Kittle everybody. Yeah, I was like hey, George saying I'm Greg. Yeah, I did that to someone the other day on Twitter. Ari. Yeah. Well, he said George Kittle everybody Yeah, I was like, hey George. I'm Greg Yeah, I screwed up in my head all the time, but yeah, good luck in the Super Bowl we're rooting for you And we love you. Oh dude. I love you guys. Love you too. Love that. Good luck George Kittle was brought to you by our great friends over at Coors Light. All aboard the Chill Train. The Chill Train is back. That's right. The beer train that we all love is making its triumph and return, spreading joy and more importantly, beer to America. Hanging

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Max here with Invisalign. So you've been doing stuff. Where were you before this? You're doing radio row? No, I just came from Lowe's with the guys, you know, we did a little little little love for Lowe's You know over there for an hour did some signings kiss some babies nice. Nice. Yeah, and so Invisalign, did you get Invisalign? Yeah, I got the Invisalign in right now. Oh, I love it. Just started a few days ago, so yeah, I didn't grow up getting braces or anything. Fix them. It's about time.

Yeah, I can't even tell you're wearing them. Yeah, I appreciate that. Invisalign does suck for everyone who had to suffer through braces because now everyone's caught up in like Invisalign so much easier. Yeah, way you didn't have to do that. Yeah smooth You take my money eating a good. Yeah, I had braces for I think five years when I was a kid It it sucks that in business line wasn't around it really does it would change my entire childhood Yeah, I was gonna say five years a long time. Yeah, they didn't do anything for the last three years I kept going in they were like, okay, let's just change the bands on here.

All right, see ya. Need to check from your parents, by the way, on the way out. Well, in Visiline. Yeah, let's go. What injuries are you working with right now? Cause you got the sleeve on your left leg and then you have a cast on your right leg. What's going on?

I got, so I got my birth so removed out of my knee. Okay. A couple of weeks ago, so I was dealing with that for a majority of the season. So thank God I got that out. It was a pain of the season. So thank God I got that out. It was a pain in the ass. But yeah, I got that done. It'll be like two to three months.

And then the hand, I tore my UCL 10 into my thumb. So I had to get that. When did you do that? I did that versus Jets like week 10, I think. So you just were like, fuck it, I'm playing the rest of the season? Yeah, I mean, it happens. Like you just, you have a little bangs up and little bruises and shit like that.

So, you know, they made it work. I appreciate you saying like it happens, because if I had either of those injuries, I'd probably just be in a ball crying. I mean, like, I'm not podcasting today. Yeah. Yeah, so it happens. Yeah, it just happens.

It's normal. It's played through UCL for seven weeks. Yeah, something like that. Does that affect anything? Not necessarily. I mean, they got. Does that affect anything? Not necessarily. I mean, they got like guards that they put on your thumbs and tape it, so it kind of just keeps it locked in. So I started doing them with both of them.

So I mean, it didn't bother me that much. It's annoying, but most of the while. I got a stupid question to start off. Start real well with this interview. So your name, Max with two Xs. I looked it up, that is your God given name. That's the most badass thing ever. I appreciate that.

Like did your parents know, they're like we're gonna create a badass when they name a Max with double Xs? I thought that was an addition. I thought like, you know, you add the double X when it's like, oh, I'm a beast. Like I'm gonna be an awesome pro. It's like a helmet sticker.

Yeah, right? Every all pro. It's like a helmet sticker. Yeah, right. Every old pro, you had another X to your name. It's like you either become like a pro bowl defensive lineman or a porn star with the extra X. Yeah, no, 100%. And you got the extra X. Yeah, I really had no other options in life, so I had to really step up to the plate.

But when you were growing up, where you're like, this is awesome, I have two Xs? No, I always loved it. I thought it was dope, but the story was just, I was a huge baby baby I was almost 12 pounds of birth and my mom put an extra X on it and that was it. Wait so she literally did like XXL? Yeah basically. Yeah. They had to break my collarbone I was stuck. Yeah I was all messed up from that. You were gonna be just maxed with one X and then you

came out and they're like this baby needs another My mom had another could you do it like what if they were all capitalized to like uppercase letters and your first name What if you were that big yeah, that would rock too. Oh, yeah, I mean I would go with it. Yeah, I'd be unique That's an awesome story and you're you mean you have a million awesome stories We were saying before because legend Mac, Mac legend, Brogan, Roeback is here. Uh, we're big Mac fans. Eastern Michigan.

You only got offered to Eastern Michigan. Yeah. Yeah. My only offer. No one else was like, Hey, you can come walk on or anything? Um, no, it was pretty quick. Like I was a linebacker my whole life. I was a linebacker fullback, size, running back, all childhood, all middle school,

all high school. And my last year going into my senior year, I grew like four inches. So I was like six, five, and I was goofy. I was growing into my body. I was in pain. I wasn't twitchy at all. And I was, you know, just trying to figure it out. And we got new coaches that came in from Austin West, like, like they had like Drew Drew Brees, it's a legendary school. So I was like, I'm trying to play tight end. So they come in, they're like, listen, you're gonna play DN and tight end. You're not playing linebacker anymore,

just listen to us, we're gonna get you an offer. So that's literally what it was. I had no film at that DN until my last year. So Eastern had a camp like this summer before my last year in high school. And I went there, did both positions and then they offer me. So I had no film or anything and they just took a chance and that was it. I committed like two weeks later.

That's incredible. And we love action. Hey, are there times when you're playing the NFL and you're like, this is, this is cake because I've, you know, been a Kalamazoo in like the middle of like November on a Wednesday night in front of a hundred people. Yeah. I mean, we've had some classic ones. We were at Ball State in Muncie, Indiana on like a Tuesday night. One of the greatest games in football history.

It was like literally election night. It was like 48 to 45. We want we won in like double overtime or something. There was maybe 50 people. Yeah, it was a monsoon. It was freezing. And yeah, he was he was people yeah it was a monsoon was freezing and yeah he was He was going crazy. Yeah in the rain everything. It was it was wild. Yeah, yeah, that's great Well bonners. Yeah, it is that's when you think of Mac Mac action

You usually don't think like 48 to 45 games. Yeah fucking shoot out in that kind of weather That's a special game because it's like yeah They're only 200 people in the stands you you experience that more with your team than you do with like the environment of the stadium Which is cool. Yeah, I guess I mean it was different You know, honestly, it's crazy because I grew up playing high school football in Texas So like our games were 15,000 jam-packed full tailgates like it was crazy And then I go to Eastern and at that time You know my first year were one and eleven They were like talking about shutting the whole program down like we had no fans in the crowd

So like I went to Eastern and I had less fans when I first got there. Yeah, it was crazy So I was a little thrown off. So, you know, we changed it We end up going a bunch of ball games and things and you know now they're still going to ball games Yeah, it took a lot of time like if when I first got there, it was like a ghost town. It was bad. And it was the grit factor. You guys did the concrete entrance. When that happened, when your coach was like,

this is what we're going to do. What was the locker room like? Were they like, are you sure we're going to do this? You know, it's funny because I committed and that my senior year, I watched every Eastern game. And it was like the first game of the season and that was when Creighton first got hired. So I turned on the TV in the morning

and it was not top 10. And it was them as number one. And they were on the team at the time. I wasn't there yet. And it took literally like two minutes to get the wall down. And it was hilarious. So I have my boys are clowning me because of Eastern trying to knock the wall down

I'm like, I we're off to a great start. So yeah, it was broken here talking that kid is that Mike on Cuz is that Mike on Brogan? Tell us what your coach said after that too when you're on not top top 10 Yeah, I mean he pretty much brought us in the next morning after the game because I think we got butchered Which is even worse So we're in there and we're watching, before we go watch film, he pretty much is like, I know we've seen the not top 10, and we're all looking around like it's elephant in the room.

And we're all like, coach, like we gotta stop that. And he's like, no, you guys are, you're not seeing it. You're not seeing what I'm seeing. But that's why we're gonna continue doing it, because no one can tell us what we're gonna do. It just goes on this rant, and they're still knocking down that fucking wall. He did.

He did. That was the JFK speech. We choose to go to the moon not because it's easy, but because it's hard. Yeah. He did that about busting down a center block wall to get. Were you like, were you a little bit tired after breaking down that wall? I did it. I think once or twice, like it was, you know, there was like three main people,

like offense, defense, and special teams, like the players of the week, you would get the hammer and you'd have to be the one to knock it down. And I think I believe that might be wrong. But didn't they get like lighter cinder blocks after that? So they're getting lighter cinder blocks so you could actually knock the thing down. So yeah, yeah, you hit it like two times and then just kick the thing through and then you're good. So yeah, it was you know A learned skill, but we figured it out and you're playing on a gray field gray field awesome It was legendary. Yeah, we loved it. You said you weren't twitchy at the time When did you was there a moment where you're like now I'm twitchy?

What was your first twitch? My first twitch I would say is when I lost a bunch of weight before I went to college. Like when I was growing, I grew, like I said, four inches, like my body ached. I was like just eating more and I was just kind of gumpy and big and my body was hurting. So once I, you know, before I went to Eastern, I lost a bunch of weight because I didn't want to feel like that. I felt horrible. I felt slow and everything like that.

So I lost a bunch of weight. I got skinny as hell, but I felt athletic and I was jumping and moving better. So then once I got to Eastern, I was able to like put on some better weight and then it, you know, yeah, just kind of, it was a process. And it's an awesome story because you like, is it only offers Eastern,

then you get drafted by the Raiders and what the fourth round and you're like a, the third year, you know, third string right away. So you're, are you thinking like, I'm not going to make the team here. Like you have the confidence, like I'm going to, I'm going to be one of the best defensive players in the NFL. No doubt. Um, you know, I've always had a ton of confidence. That's never been an issue for me. It was just about all the other little things. Um, and so for me, it was like, I came in as a,

whatever, I was third string when I got into camp, but for me, I just wanted a chance. I was like, I know if I can get in, you know, drafted on any team, like I'm gonna have a chance. Like just give me in the locker room, it doesn't matter, put me on the field, I'm gonna be good. So, and once I just start cleaning up everything off the field and cleaning up eating habits

and just putting it all together, you know, that's why I'm here today. Cause I do it every single day You know no details left behind so yeah, I never had a confident You know never had any lack of confidence when I come to playing football But once I put it all together then you know, that's why so I'm here One of your biggest fans is one of our favorite people in the world Brian Baldinger. Yes, he called you the condor Yeah, he came up with that name for you, right?

100%. Yeah. When you heard it, were you like, that's a fucking sick nickname. Oh, I loved it. I loved it. It was honestly crazy. Like my first three games in NFL,

they were probably the hardest football games ever. Like I'm used to playing every single snap. Like in college, I would play, never come off the field. I'm a rhythm guy. Like I need to get into a rhythm and get my, you know, whatever. So I would play, never come off the field. I'm a rhythm guy, like I need to get into a rhythm and get my, you know, whatever. So I come in, they're like, yeah, you're gonna be a rotational guy,

you're gonna play some first and second down and you're not even on third downs. I'm like, what the fuck? I'm playing like 15, 20 snaps. In those first three games that I felt I was so bad. Like mentally I was at my lowest, like when it comes to confidence. I had coach Buckner who was just hard as hell.

I mean, he was just not, he did like, I thought I thought I was the worst player in the world. He would come to the meetings and just crush me. And Clee, the other rookie, Clee Farrell from Clemson, he just getting crushed. And I'm like, I don't know if I could play in the league. Like, and I've never felt like lack of confidence on a football field before.

So we go into Indy that week. It was the fourth game of the year, my rookie season. And Benson Mayo was the starting edge. He goes down right before the game, and Buck comes in there, like literally 30 minutes before kickoffs, like Max, you're up on third downs, you're going, and that was it. So I went into the game, played like 50 snaps,

had my breakout game, and I've started ever since. And that's when Baldi made the video. He made the Condor video versus the Colts and that was how it all started. I love how fired up he gets about football. I always love that. I listen to job about football, it's the best. I always the best.

Now you never come off the field. Like you had a, there was some stat that was insane that was like you played like 98% of the snaps. Like how are you able to do that versus everyone else? Like you see guys, even the best guys have to come off every now and then you just have a motor that just never stops. Yeah. I mean, it really comes down to just mentality and preparation.

Like I train all year round. Like I'm injured right now. These guys are staying at my house. We have stuff to do all day and it doesn't matter. Like from 7-11 this morning, I got my strength coach coming over, got my rehab guy. I'm rehabbing, doing everything every single single day like I don't take time off. I meal prep 365 it doesn't stop so for me like being able to play that many snaps would do it at a high level I want to be able to change the game and make other guys like kind of look in the mirror be like damn

Why can't I play that many snaps not like I'm 240 pounds like I'm 260 pounds and playing just as much as DB's are playing which is you know not common at all. Yeah that kind of makes you a tryhard. Yeah I guess. I mean just a little bit like you're making everyone else have to play more. Yeah I want to I want to be that guy. Just chill out Max. Yeah. You know there's other teams they're like why can't you be like Max why are you coming off the field. 100% that's my man goal. It's piss everyone off. I love that that's your goal though is to like set such a high standard for work ethic

Everybody out there is like oh shit. I need to be playing more football. Yeah, I know I do this I did hear one interview with it where you said like sometimes people call you try hard Yeah, is that do you take that as an insult or like it seems like I would like my I would like players on my favorite football team to Try hard a very hard. I don't like when you're a kid like usually that's like a diss like yeah try hard you don't want to be that kid but I mean we're all in the NFL and I mean I feel like I'd take it as a compliment so guilty is charged Max Cosby's a try hard graphic try I'll get a shirt with everything I'm perfectly okay with that so the other part of your story which is crazy because you talked about the beginning of your career yeah and you are, is it four-year sober now, or close to it?

About to be four years and much. About to be four years sober, which is an awesome, awesome story, very inspirational to everyone. But you spent the first two years, three years of your career, not sober, and you still were incredible. You must feel like a superhuman now, having that many years sober,

and being able to do these things, and being like, how the hell was I, how is my former self able to do that? Honestly, I don't know. It's it's crazy to think about but Honestly, it's nuts. Like I remembered in Miami when I was with y'all my rookie year Yeah, I did that like I was hungover and I felt like shit and I think I drank a beer with y'all on the show Yeah, and I don't even know how I was able to operate like that back then. But yeah, it's honestly, it's funny, my sponsor,

right when I got sober, he's like, listen, this is your superpower. He's like, nobody's doing what you're doing. You have to realize that. So I kind of take that into effect with not only, you know, being sober, but my football, my training, I'm not wasting any energy at the club or trying to recover from the night before.

Like I'm always on it. If I'm traveling to LA energy at the club or trying to recover from the night before like I'm always on it If I'm traveling to la or traveling to do something for work or business whatever I I call my nutritionist. He calls the hotels. I have meals waiting for me. I like it's all the time So I'm putting my energy into good shit and it's it's got me exactly right Well, congrats on four years sober. It's it's incredible. I appreciate it. Yeah, I would imagine the sleep factor is huge too It's incredible. I would imagine the sleep factor is huge too. When you rest, your body's actually recovering. 100%.

It doesn't stop. I got the whole recovery thing in my house now. I cold tub 7 days a week all year round. I'm too much for a plus in cold tub. You have to. It's a game changer. Every morning, bro, I change your life. How long do you go for?

I do two sets of 10 minutes every single night. Try hard. I'm gonna buy, I know. 100% even the guys at the facility are like, bro, why do you do only this? I'm like, I'm doing it because you're not. Yeah, you do a cold tub to recover from your cold tub? 100%. I do it before practice, after practice.

I feel like you are a try hard. I feel like we get, we got you at Barstool for like a week. We would probably bully it out of you and you'd just be like like yeah, I'll take another pizza. Let's watch the game No, it's slowly start changing you like I'm gonna get in here. I'm gonna get in the building You would change us before we change you. I would bother you every day We're very sad and sorry. Day one you walk in me and big cat sitting on the couch We got TV on we got raising canes chicken tenders. We got four diet coax in front of us Yeah, and my shirt is like up over my stomach because I've gotten fat

It's just like supporting my t-shirt. Yeah, what do you say to us to get us to like straighten our shit out? Well, it's crazy because the thing is you guys would come in I would already be in the building Spread of different type of proteins greens everything and we'll be dialed in I think there'd be a nice spread of different type of proteins, greens, everything and would be dialed in. I think there'd be a revolution. Yeah, I would slowly, all it takes is one. It starts with you and then all of a sudden he starts feeling like shit because he's left out and then okay I'm gonna start eating.

Then you got abs now and then you get a couple more girls here and there and now you just be a part of the crew. Now we're fucking. Now we're fucking. Now we're fucking. Now we're fucking. Everything's good. Everything's on point. I mean, it would be a very funny test because I feel like we could it would

be the unstoppable force versus the moveable object like Max come on. We're gonna bet some college basketball games and sit on the couch. Why don't you want to do that with the boys? No, I would definitely I would I would join you know we do our thing I mean yeah it's not like I'm not having fun but I just like staying dialed in I feel better about myself. Yeah, and and you've done obviously like we're kidding around but like what you've accomplished after getting so it's pretty pretty impressive and Like on a real note though I was wondering about this earlier like you you go you check yourself in the rehab, which is hard to do right? Like there's a big like mental block that a lot of people have whether they're embarrassed they're ashamed whatever the case may be they don't

seek treatment and then you get you get out of there and you come back to Las Vegas and as an outsider that hasn't spent that much time in Las Vegas it seems like a very hard city to maintain that lifestyle in was there like a shock to you when you got back where how did you adjust for that honestly you know I end up staying in LA. I did my 30 days in rehab. I was in LA the whole time. And then I was like, I want to go back home.

Like I want to go back to my girls and my dogs are there, whatever. And they're like, no, you're going to a, it's basically like a halfway house and you get out of prison. It's like, it's called a sober living. So it's a bunch of guys, like eight to 10 of us in a crib. And they all just got out of rehab too. So you're living together, doing stuff, but you're doing meetings during the day and all different type of stuff

And I end up staying there for another three months. So I'm good. That's honestly the best thing I did like yeah, because I've wanted to go home really badly But I didn't I just sucked it up I stayed there for another three months and then I end up going into training camp like straight out of sober living So honestly if I didn't do that, I don't know if I would have stayed sober. But it helped me prepare like going back to Vegas. I was, you know, I was ready.

The first step is literally submitting you have a problem. So that's really what it was. I'm like, it doesn't matter where I'm at. If I was in Ypsilanti, Michigan, they know how it was. I was raising hell. Doesn't matter where I'm at. It's it could be Vegas or whatever. Like obviously there's more temptation here,

but like I live in, you know, Henderson, it's quiet. I do my thing. If I want to, you know, come to the strip, it's 20 minute drive, but like I'm not going to the clubs or whatever. I'm smoking my cigars. It's about it. So yeah.

That's a great message too, because I feel like a lot of people who struggle with it and like that feeling of, okay, I did rehab, I'm cured. And Jerry, who we talk to all the time, he stresses it all the time, every day is a challenge. And if you think of it that way, you're not ever thinking, oh, I'm good, I'm fine, I can be around stuff, I'm good,

having that extra buffer that probably saved your life. Yeah, 100%. I mean, you need a ton of checks and balances from sponsors, support, your friend group. Like, when I first got sober there, like the one thing you gotta change is everything. Yeah. I'm like, what the fuck does that mean?

Like, I'm in the NFL. How is that possible? Yeah. Literally everything. Like your friend group, who you hang with, all the people, you know, you did wrong in the back, you gotta go and go dig up those, you know, those graves and go apologize and like do all these things

that you're not typically used to doing and are uncomfortable. But, you know, at the end of the day, when you clean your side of the street, it's just like, okay, I did my part, I know I was wrong, whatever. You just keep moving forward. And that's how you do it. You gotta do it literally every single day.

That's awesome. You're mentioning cigars, You're a big cigar guy Yeah, so am I I like black and miles. I like the love I like Woodtips or that's my preferred cigar you like woods. Okay. Yeah, you like the plastic ones Yeah, I mean I'll smoke whatever black emology put in front of me, but I've tried I've tried to get into cigars Yeah, I can't do it. It just it the you know the smell gets into everything Yeah, I don't necessarily enjoy it. How many cigars would you say that you go through in like a month in a month? Honestly like during the season. I just like smoke a cigar after the game. Yeah, you did that after the chiefs game

And I was like, yeah, that might have been a little too much. What do you mean? I don't know like you guys weren't in the playoffs. You smoked a cigar. We smoked a cigar. After every game? You win, you smoke a cigar. All right, okay, then that's fine. That's fair.

Wait, you smoked after a loss? No, oh, I mean, if it's like me personally, like I go home and I put my film on a golf course. But in the locker room, yeah. Yeah, like locker room, that's like our new shit with AP. It's like, we're gonna smoke our shit. Okay, I like that. I would die for Antonio Pierce.

Yeah, he's a man. Motivate anyone. Yeah. Yeah so in a month I mean probably this depends maybe six to eight on the low end maybe 12 if I'm you know. What's a good starter cigar? I would say starter like a Monte Cristo or like a Padrone. Okay.

Padrone like 50th anniversary is my favorite. Yeah am I get into that. So let's talk about Antonio Pierce real quick. Seems like an all time motivation guy gets everyone rallied up. Now, let me phrase it the right way. We've all had bosses we don't like. Then switching to a boss, she's do like,

this is just a hypothetical example. I already knew, right away. So if you hypothetically went from a boss that like everyone's like, I hate this guy, this is the worst, to a hypothetically like Antonio Pierce, what would the vibes be like in the locker room? I mean, the vibes were immaculate. Everyone was happy.

You know, it's, I don't know if you're politically correct, but it's just like, you know, AP, everyone already loved AP. So, you know, everyone heard about us having like the state of the union type meeting before Josh got fired. And like everybody shared their piece. And Josh was in there, Dave Ziggler, like everyone was in there,

and AP was one of the coaches to stand up there and share his feelings. And there was no, nobody held shit back. Everything was on the table. And it was uncomfortable for a lot of people. So I think once AP did that in front of the team, and then he was announced a week later, that was the first time everybody kind of heard him

in front of the team talk. So it wasn't like some big surprise or anything like that. Like the defensive side we know how AP is. He's dope as hell. He's a great leader, cool as shit, knew everybody. But like once everybody kind of got to hear him, then it was just like easy transition and we were rolling. Yeah, you could tell right away like just how you guys were, I think that first game was maybe the Giants. You guys were just like it was almost instant from the kickoff. Like guys flying around, yeah, physical football.

Um, it seems like he's, were you pumped that he got the head coaching job? I feel like the rich, Bassaccio, like we love rich Bassaccio too. Like that it was like, are the Raiders going to make a mistake and not get a guy that they look like was there, was it ever in doubt that you're like, Oh man, I hope we keep AP, but it could go a different way. Yeah, I mean, you never know.

Right. That's the thing, like, you know, I've been with the Raiders going on my six year now. So, you know, I've seen it all. You know, so you really don't know what to expect, but you know, I had a good, you know, good idea that AP was coming back. Yeah.

But until it happens, you know, you're still kind of a little bit nervous. A whole good breath, yeah. And you know, there's, I was public about it. I was happens, you're still kind of a little bit nervous. I was public about it. I was very out and open. We need to hire AP, whatever. And I was just literally speaking for the guys. So some people were irritated because they're like,

he's messing up the coaching process. And there's a lot of great coaches this year. I'm like, well, there's only one Raider coach. We're different than everybody. So AP is our guy. That's how I feel. That's how everyone feels. That's only one rate of coach. We're different than everybody. So AP is our guy. That's how I feel. That's how everyone feels. That's how the equipment people feel.

That's how everyone feels. So don't overthink it. We got a guy in the building. Let's keep building and we'll see what happens. When you said that publicly to me, it sounded like Max might not play if they don't hire AP. Did that thought occur to you? How much is a year guy

You're so obviously like passionate about I was like I think I think max only wants to play football for AP next year Yeah, no hundred percent. That's how I felt like I don't want to I've never wanted to leave the Raiders I've oh I want to be here for my whole career But honestly what I was saying like some people took it the wrong way as in like, it's either AP or I'm gone. That's not what my message was. Like my message was, I want people, I want everybody to be on the same page

when it comes to winning. I want everyone to have the same mindset. I'm gonna get better every single year. I'm gonna come in the building early. I'm gonna work the way I work. Cause every single year I'm continuously getting better because of the work I do. It's simple as that.

It's every day I'm trying to set the standard for everybody in that building. So if the higher ups or whoever it is are not aligned with winning, then I don't wanna be a part of that. Why would I? You know what I mean? I wanna win.

I want them to think the same way. I want them to keep, all right, what's the next level? What's the next? Not get content and just be like, all right, we're just gonna keep doing what we always done, but it hasn't worked. So let's all fucking think outside the box. Let's be fucking grown men about it

and let's keep winning and keep growing in the right direction. So that's what my message was. And some people took it as, nobody's above the shield and whatever. I'm like, bro, I got the shield tatted on me. I fucking go out there and play. You have a lot of tattoos.

A lot of tattoos. It does blend in a little bit, but at the end of the day, like I'll put my life on the line to go play. Like I've proven that over and over. I've played injured, I've had five surgeries and I've never missed a single game. So it's like, I'm a raider to the core. I want everyone to think like that.

It's not like, fuck y'all, I'm out of here, I'm never. I love the fans, I love Raider Nation, but like, I want everyone to think like that. It's not like, fuck y'all, I'm out of here. I'm never. I love the fans. I love Raider Nation, but like, I want everyone to think about, all right, how are we going to win? Like, I'm going into year six already. It flies. I want to be, I want to be able to win. Yeah, I got a question for you, Biggat. Yeah. How funny do you think it was during that team meeting when Antonio Pierce said like, remember that giant team that beat the Patriots and then Josh McDaniels got pissed off Cuz like you can't make fun of the Patriots. Yeah. Yeah, yeah Yeah, how funny do you think that was I I think it's very funny. Yeah, I think it's very funny very funny

I don't know who leaked that shit. Yeah, it was funny. He talked, you know He talked about a bunch of different things, but that was that was one of the reports I'm like, all right, someone definitely is trying to get some clicks. Yeah, someone made that up. It was a hot topic. Yeah, I clicked. You were like, Josh, definitely. I'm clicking on it right now in my head.

It sounded convincing. It definitely sounded convincing, but I mean, that, you know, he didn't storm out of the meeting and it was totally, I don't know who fabricated that. Yeah, all right, so most important question I have for you, have you ever gone to P.F. Chang's with Mark Davis important question I have for you. Have you ever gone to P.F. Changs with Mark Davis? I have never. No. What the fuck? No I know. How does he not? You gotta get that in your contract. He's gonna take you to P.F. Changs. We're big Mark Davis fans. Oh I love Mark Davis. Mark Davis has got all the swag. We want

we want him on this show so bad. We want to go to P.F. Changs with him. He's the best. He's the best. He'll go by himself. Yeah. He'll sit at a slot machine at a casino and just hanging out. I love it. He's just one of the guys. Yeah. 100%. Yeah. All right. So the soup will come up. Patrick from Homes, you obviously play him twice a year. Best friend. Yeah. One thing I love that you that you do is like you I feel like rivalries mean something to you. Yeah. And like you're you don't like these guys. I love that. Like there was a pregame,

I think you guys got into it a little bit before the Christmas game. Like I just love that. That's what sports are about. About. But Pat from Holmes, in terms of sacking him, like how do you defend him? What the hell is the answer?

Cause it's just, he's so goddamn good. Yeah. No, he's the best, you know? So every time you play him, you have to be coordinated. You have to do your absolute best. I don't know if you do your absolute best. You have to do everything in your power and fucking energy, every fiber in your body to keep him in the pocket. If he keeps plays alive, that's where he's magical.

He does all the crazy shit, throws it left-handed and he just finds people. But if you keep him in the pocket, that's your best bet. And I'm not saying it's, you know, 100% is gonna stop him, but that's your best chance. And you watch us play him on Christmas, like we kept him in the pocket, we rushed the fuck out of him,

we were hunting him all game. Like that's what your mind has to be like, all right, I know what I'm getting into, track shoes on, I'm fucking running all day long. You look at the GPS, like they have the GPS monitors on us. It should be the highest it is all year because you're just gonna keep running and running and running. So that's kind of what it is.

Like you gotta be relentless and your whole front's gotta think like that. So every time I play them, I know what it is. I'm gonna be chasing all day long and you gotta be geared up for that. What about when he gets this sideline because he's really good at getting those extra yards where guys like me, they don't let up, but they also you can't stop. I mean, there was a play

this year where he was literally back pedaling. He's near the sideline. I ran from like the opposite side and I just fucking smoked him in the chin. And I'm like, no matter what, he is going down. All game, you have to hit him all game and make him uncomfortable. But the thing about him, he's not a bitch. He's gonna keep coming back, he's gonna keep playing. And for us, it's like, no, we're gonna just make him

uncomfortable all game. So that's the best bet. Wait, if he's not a bitch, what quarterback is a bitch? I won't name any of this. There's more than one. OK, OK, OK. There's a lot of them. Mad bitches in the back.

Well, I'm sure there's some quarterbacks you hit them and they're like, no moss. They're crying. Yeah, there's a lot of them that cry. I mean, yeah, it is. What quarterback makes the funniest sound when you hit them? Funniest sound? Probably Russell Wilson.

Yeah. Russell Wilson. He just like rolls over. And I'm like, I almost feel bad sometimes. But yeah, it's, I'll probably say, well. It's got to be such a good feeling. I'll do respect. Yeah. You've got to be such a good feeling to get a sack.

Have you had to like change how you hit a quarterback? Like, do you think about that shit? Like, oh, if I'm sacking, I better try to take my weight off him in mid-air because I'll throw a flag. Yeah. Honestly, no. It's almost like a skill now. You get a hold of him and you're trying to rag doll him.

You just know, back in the day, I was literally trying to break collar bones. Every time you get him, I'm driving him through the soil. That's the only way I'm doing it. But now it's just like, you can't land full body weight. You know a flag's coming. So it's like getting a face mask. You grab somebody with a face mask. You know the flag's coming. It it's like, it's like getting a face mask. You grab some of the face masks,

you know the flags when it's the same thing. So now you just gotta be a little bit more aware and under control, I would say. I do notice you do the move where you wrap them up and then swing them. Yeah, I did that to my homes last year. I grab them and I just turn them away. So you can't look down field and you can't do shit.

That's gotta feel like the best moment when you know you got them. Oh, a hundred percent. There's no better feeling. Like TFLs tack, all that's great. like the best moment when you know you got him. Oh a hundred percent. There's no better feeling like TFL's tack All that's great, but like sacking the quarterback in a big third down like there's literally nothing bad Yeah, I want to go back to I believe is 2019. Was that your rookie year? Yeah 2019 your first training camp I believe that was the Antonio Brown training camp. Yes, right? You remember not you remember when he flew in on a hot air balloon on the first day of training camp?

Yeah, we had hard knocks, we had everything. Is this what the NFL is like? There's cameras around me all the time. My receivers' toes are frozen off. He's trying to fight the GM. Yeah. I mean, when I say I've seen it all, being on the Raiders, I've seen it all. That offseason we signed AB, Vontes Burfick, Richie and Cognito.

Like we had like, it was like the longest yard team. And it was fucking awesome. It includes the coach. It includes the coach. Like it was a fucking reality television show. So I was, you know, it was incredible. Like those guys, like even Vontess, like you think about Vontess Burfick,

you think he's like some serial killer. He's one of the coolest dudes ever, great leader. But like just being around those dudes, that was my first experience ever, so it was different. It was crazy. The AB shit was in the news every single day. I'm like, this is so much different.

I'm used to Eastern, we barely get coverage on ESPN. Maybe ESPN too, get a couple highlights. This shit was on TV every single day, so it was different. What's it like playing for coach Gruden? Did he get pissed off at you? Cause you were, you were too good at defense and practice. He would fuck up his offense. He would get irritated.

We had a, he literally threatened to cut me on the middle of the field. One of my, my first training camp and his thing, like he's an offensive coach and I've always had offensive coaches till AP got here. But he would get so mad about batting balls. Like we'll be in practice doing team and he refused to let us bat the ball.

But I would tell him, like, why the fuck are we practicing? Not bat the balls, but in a game, they're gonna be doing the same shit. So what's the point? But he's an offensive guy, so he wants his shit to, he wants practice to move a certain way. So I'm not even thinking, I'm just trying to make plays and whatever, I'm a third string,

I'm just trying to do everything. So it's like the second week of training camp I've swat a ball down and I'm fucking hype celebrating and he's all looking at me all irritated whatever Happens again boom swat a ball down then it happens at the end of practice. I swatted for the third time He's like stop fucking stop swatting the fucking ball down. He goes all fucking cut your ass I swear to God, if you do it one more time. And I'm looking at him like, all right, then I just go back to the auto. Like he shut down Pagas and motherfucker. And I'm like, what?

But yeah, I'm not used to it. And in college, we do whatever the fuck. We hit the scout team quarterback, so we give a fuck. And you bat one there at Carball, you're fucking, you're getting motherfucked. So he loved that about me, because I would just fucking go 100 miles an hour. But like at the same time, he motherfucked me all the time just about batting balls.

And it's an offensive coach thing. Daniel's the same way. He fucking hated it. Yeah. That's what it is. That's incredible. Have you talked to Aiden O'Connell at all about his mustache? Of course.

Of course. Did he used to shave it? No. Oh, honestly, the first conversation I had with him when he came in as a rookie, like I spotted him a couple of times, I didn't know who he was, like knew he was coming from Purdue, but I've seen him with the stash

and I didn't know if he was like a prank or like his thing or whatever it was and he's sitting there in the squat rack doing a workout and I just went out of my way, went up to him like, is there a story, like what's going on with the stash? He's like, honestly, he's like, I was trying to go grow a beard, but it kind of, it didn't grow out right.

And whatever, and he's like, then I just shaved and I just kept the stash and I looked myself in the mirror and he's like, I kind of like this. And so he just went with it and that's been his thing ever since. I'm like, honestly, I fuck with it. I respect it. Like that's his deal, just fucking, just ride the wave.

We had a couple of sponsorships and ride the the wave can't all grow good facial hair sometimes you gotta shoot your shot a little bit and see what comes out percent the Thursday night game this year against the Chargers that was awesome congrats yeah congrats on being in that game yeah um in the first half could you just tell like I don't think I don't think the Chargers want to play football right now no yeah they didn't want any part of it. I mean, you could tell they were going through a lot. Herbert got hurt.

They had all type of shit going on. Everyone's talking about their coach might get fired. And then, you know, we just lost to the Vikings three to zero. Yeah, it's bad. Like the ugliest game ever, you know, it was a defensive, you know, dream. They didn't do shit all game. We lose by three points and everybody was pissed.

Often the guys, they couldn't score a single point. So they're getting killed for the next three days and it was a quick turnaround. So I know they were itching to get back on the field. So we went out there like right out the gate, boom, boom, boom. Every time we were on defense, it was like pick, fumble. It was just every fucking player.

We were just laughing at the game. It was like, I've never been a part of a game like that. I didn't play the last I didn't play the fourth quarter I didn't play like the last drive of the third quarter. I'm just hanging out my helmets over there I'm like, I've never been a part of this shit. I'm like, this is what it feels like to be on a fucking a dominant team You know what I mean? So yeah, it was a different experience, but we yeah, we kicked the shit out I have a question about your tattoos. How many tattoos do you have? No idea. Okay no idea. You do have a tattoo though. You're your girl dad. As a girl dad to girl dad I can ask you this question. You have a tattoo on your chest. It says

B legendary? Yeah. No yeah with Muhammad Ali, Kobe, MJ and your daughter. Yeah. That's a lot of pressure on there. Yeah it is. Dude that's a lot of pressure. That's a lot of pressure on her. Yeah, it is. Dude, that's a lot of pressure. It's a lot of pressure. I did it strategically. Did you think about that? She's gonna be a legend. So, you know, for me, I know how I am.

You know, she's got my genetic pool. So I love being pushed. I love when something triggers me. So yeah, you know, I'm just setting her up. Like, listen, this is where you're at. This is where we're going. So be prepared. Okay, all right.

Very high. Yeah, and that's like're going. So be prepared. Okay. Very high. Yeah, that's like I read that I was like damn. Yeah, that's a lot of pressure. I'm a pressure. She's in like she's on Mount Rushmore She's on Mount Rushmore. Yeah, immediately. Did you get uh, did you get the DAC treatment on that? Did you get like put under? Yeah, so dated. Yeah. Yeah. How long? Two sessions. It was like 13 hours total, back to back days. So we totally knocked out? Knocked. They came to my house, there's five different people,

and I was in my living room. Knocked out, my agent flew in, he was worried about it. My wife is freaking out. Everyone was like, I'm fine, I'll be good. Like, bunch of players do it. And yeah, I did it, it was smooth. And honestly, after the fact, I'm fine. I'll be good. Like a bunch of players do it. Um, and yeah, I did it. It was smooth. And honestly, I after the, after the fact, I wasn't like that sore.

I just, you know, legendary. Yeah. You should have gotten you getting the tattoo on your chest. Like me getting tattoo. Yeah. Like you getting knocked out for a two day session in the tattoo art is tattooing that on your chest. I would have been unique.

Maybe the next one. Just look how long this tattoo took, and then we could see how long it took to seeing your chest. It's brilliant. Yeah, I might have to do that now. It also sounds like a nice little vacation. Just getting two days, just leaving. Yeah, I timed it up perfect where I had a week off of training.

So it was like two weeks before training camp. I'll always take a week. I need to get my body back together. And so I was like, all right, boom, we're tied in here, tied in here. And I was just cooked. Tough question. There was a hypothetical on the internet a couple months ago that Will Compton got involved in a lot. It was the all black team versus all white team. You were debated a lot. I think your name actually trended for like today. Do you want to say which team you're going to play for? There was a message that they were like people would post the post game videos

of you in the locker room like with a scar and they're like, yeah, he's on our team. I've seen a million of them. Honestly, like I said, I want to be on the winning team. Yeah, all right. If we got a bunch of weight-in-warners, we're fucked. That's fine, I kind of understand that. I'm going for the winning team. Smart choice.

All day. They want me, I'm there. Did you just sit back and laugh like what? Like you were literally the point of debate for over the long time. For days, and I'm just sitting at home like, what the fuck? They love nothing better to do they're like oh no we got him fuck you on the time I trade scenarios and all type of shit they're

like yeah you take Russell Wilson I was in tea it felt good though you were like the hottest commodity on the team it was funny bro it was hilarious internet is undefeated it really it's also like I feel like speaking for the white delegation, we have a lot of great pass rushers on our team right now in the NFL. So we're like, well, if we do have a trade piece, so we've got us a quarterback. We would do it. Yeah, absolutely. Makes sense.

Like give us Jalen Ramsey. Yeah. I'll take it. It's all business. That's what you're saying? Okay. We can figure that out. What was Will Compton like as a teammate?

Was he more of a try hard than you? I wouldn't say that. I mean, he's just a morale. He's the first team all morale. He just comes in the locker room. He's always just doing his thing. He was hilarious. When we went on our run, he had to play off Willy's shit going.

We had t-shirts. He's a character, bro. So having him in the locker room was funny as hell. He's just cracking jokes and just like, honestly, he didn't have to play a snap. But we needed him. Like he was supposed to be there. He's an all time glue guy.

Cause we get the same thing when he comes to our office. It's like when he shows up, it's like he's a glue guy. He's like to you, Donis Haslam, you know, in the locker room. Yeah. No question. I like that. I like how you put it too. It's like, he doesn't even have to play. In fact, like, we don't want him to play, but he's great.

We prefer it. He's great in the locker room. Honestly, yeah, pray to God it never gets to that night. But yeah, no doubt. Yeah. It's a legend. All right, well, this has been awesome. We got a special guest for our last question.

Roback question. RHOBACK.com. Twenty percent off first purchase. QZip's polo's hoodies joggers shorts. Roback.com use promo code take 20 percent off. It is the one and only Jersey Jerry, who you guys know each other. He's got a poem to pick with you. Yeah, I heard. I definitely heard what you said about Vontez.

Perfect. He's got stuff you want pick with you. Yeah, I heard definitely heard what he said about Vontez perfect He's got stuff. He wants your sign, of course All right, Jerry Her bits pieces interview is really good. Oh, you were you were sleeping? Yeah, no no other rule you were taking a nap during the interview. Yeah, but I heard bits and bits and pieces Like all black white team was good But I heard bits and bits and pieces like all black white team was good Okay, so Jerry go ahead I mean you guys know each other for a while right?

Yeah, for the juries right yeah max so my sobriety brother of course yeah big fan. I got you I got to all right Go ahead as many as you want all right, so this goes back In June of last year June last so as many as you want. All right, so this goes back. Oh, shit. He's got the day. He's got the day. He's got the day. In June of last year. June last, so. 2023? Less than a year? No? Less than a year or a year and a half ago?

Year and a half. Oh, okay. Year and a half. Happy Father's Day, Max. Enjoy the day, brother. Best of luck this year. Appreciate you, my brother. Max responds.

I said, listen, let me send you some bread for a jersey or whatever. It's like, you want a jersey? I'm like I said, listen, let me send you some bread for a jersey or whatever. He's like, you want a jersey? I'm like, yes, Max, for me and my cousin, he's a diehard greatest fan and a huge fan of yours. I'm with him right now, he loves you. No response. Oh!

Hey, Jerry, can I jump in real quick? Yeah. When you sent that text to him, now is this a DM or a text? DM, DM, DM. Okay, when you sent that DM to him, and you offered to send him some money for a jersey, did you think that Max was gonna be like,

yeah, Vin Moe me a couple hundred dollars? No, okay. Also follow up question. The Father's Day feels like it was a hollow wish. Cause you went straight Father's Day to, can I have a Joseph's Day? Yes, exactly. Okay, so you admit that.

I admit that, yeah. Were you using Father's Day as an excuse to get in touch with him? Well, no. Like, he was a recent new dad at the time. You know, I'm a dad and I just thought it was the right time to do it. Right. So that's for Jersey.

Yeah. I mean, you know, Father's Day, you're having a great day, you know, spend the, what are your kids like, why would he say no? You know what I mean? Okay, okay. You know, then I hit him up about, hey, next to Trump, incredible stuff. No response wait What is it? What was that? Well? He was at the UFC goes these big us

Trump I mean that's credible. You know what I mean September 19th. That's where this this past year Hey max. I still need that sign Why do you make me do this DMs all these players think yeah, why did you make me do this? I'm surprised. You do it to yourself. I know. You DMs all these players. Big Cat, why did you make Jersey Jerry DM Max? No, but you said a follow up. He knows all my football fans are and he's like, oh, why don't you come on PMT for one

question? I'm like, okay. And then he's like, yeah, I'm sure you DM them. I was like, yeah, well, the Jersey, you know that, Dan. He's like, come on PMT, one question. And then I'm always in the same spot But again, it starts with you. I know you're asking for the jerseys. Okay, so this is the last time I asked I said Say hey Max. I still need that jersey

Can't wait to watch you play Sunday night You didn't respond but then you responded to one of my stories and then I was like you know what I'm done But I do have shoes that Max sent me okay that I would love to get signed okay, okay He didn't like my dad shoes, so he sent me a pair of airman. Oh nice. I just happened to bring him to Vegas Yeah, they were second question damn, please wait that was was that even a question? I think that was just like funny Like what are you gonna? Are you gonna get a jersey? Yeah? We'll figure it out figured out Go to the house. Okay.

I never saw it. Have dinner. Alright. Last question. Off the record. On the record, sorry. We're on the record. We're on the record. 10 cameras in the room.

We're on the record. Couldn't be more on the record. You can't pick yourself. Who is the best defensive player in football right now? I can't pick myself. You can't pick yourself. Okay. Oh. Who is the best defensive player in football right now? I can't pick myself. You can't pick yourself. Okay.

I know you want me to answer this a certain way. I've seen many of your spills about a man with two letters for first name. Getting close. He definitely... I mean, if it's not him I mean miles Garrett's pretty good here in Donald does a miles Garrett have more Saxon CJ no no it's 13 DJ has 19 and miles Garrett's gonna win defensive player the year I will say this on record though on record I will say that on record I will be putting a

wager on Max Charles we do wins defensive players next week Are you what are you taking account out of out of who's the best offensive players? It just sacks whether I play for Steelers or if he plays for you. It's usually Steelers. Yes, but I just I just think like he's been The last three four years. He's been that guy, but I will say this I have said it in Dan could test this been that guy but I will say this I have said it in Dan could test this max is dude there's like TJ right now max is like so it's like on them right now it gets me nervous I like I like that yeah just more motivation Jerry no I think I respect I think next year Matt like next year you're gonna see like I think max you're gonna win the title next year. I really do appreciate how many years yellow for the contract

Three three. I'm here. I'm here. I'm here. You look like a steal Yeah, I never know you never know but uh, yeah, I would say honestly Yeah, TJ if not TJ you got to look at I mean it's hard not to say Aaron Donald even though he didn't have 20s access here, but Nobody game game plans people like Aaron Donald. Yeah, I mean Miles Garrett's hard not to say Aaron Donald even though he didn't have 20 sacks this year, but nobody game, game plans people like Aaron Donald. I mean, Miles Garrett's right there too. I would say like us four, I mean, both is in that conversation. Mike, yeah, Mike. I mean, there's like six guys right now. Yeah. Right now.

But TJ. But yeah, I mean, this year, I mean, if he wins it, I I don't think he's gonna win though. I don't think he's gonna win. I think Miles is gonna win. I think they feel bad that he's never won it and they're gonna give it to him But how do you give it to a guy that's at 13 sacks? That's it. He's got 19 You know what I mean? What do you think matters most as a how many sacks you have 14 and a half? Oh, so maybe it's but by every year Max's Building a building. Yeah, he's on my ass

It's my goal. I don't trust me. Yeah. I remember all those arguments. I'm a stat guy I don't know anything about the like Offensive linemen how they feel like hey who's the best every offensive professional office offensive linemen I spoke to Saying said they'd rather go up against TJ than Miles Garrett. Okay. Is that Kyle? Kyle Taylor LaWan Everybody Okay, is that Kyle Kyle Taylor Luan? Mm-hmm everybody No, I'm not no, I'm not Jerry did a great job. Thank you. Thank you. What'd you think about this comment regarding Vontess perfect? I'll tell you I sleep on that one. Yeah, you're sleeping

Very complimentary Vontess really. Yeah. It was a great dude. I mean, we were talking about that 2019 team where we had AB. He's not like a leader, a men or anything. He was a great leader, great dude, great locker room guy. I mean, it just once he saw somebody going across the middle, he saw red and put his head down and killed ya. So he just couldn't help himself. But, you know, other than that, he's good. I got a last question for you. When are we going to get to see Max Crosby, the tight end? And then it'll get him to get some touchdowns. I'm not going to lie to you.

I've had plays in for the last couple of years. And they haven't used it? No, I've used them in practice. Miraculous catch. Nice toe tap on the sideline. We do some one-on-ones. I'm catching it. I'm just waiting for my moment.

So honestly, you never know. But we'll we'll see I mean I've had a bunch of different offensive coordinators like no we're gonna get it in there then we run in practice it looks great and then we just never we need it do you have a touchdown celebration set I mean I don't know if I scored a touchdown I'm going in the crowd oh yes getting up in the crowd you You gonna find the gorilla? That guy rocks. You should kiss the gorilla. Yeah, I don't know about that, but. We're just footballing like, yeah. No bad ideas.

Just no bad ideas. You should kiss Mark Davis. Yeah. Yeah, that might. Yeah, because he's hot. He's hot. Yeah. All right, well, Max, this has been awesome, man.

Your story's incredible. It's crazy. I kind of forgot that we talked to you, what was it, it was Miami? So that was like two months before you went sober, right? Yeah, literally two months before. That's nuts, and I mean your career's incredible, you're a fun guy to watch in Route 4.

So congrats and defensive player of the year next year. Right in Jerry's face. I'm betting on it. Oh yeah, yeah, all right, so then we'll all celebrate. Amen. Perfect. Amen, we'll come back to Vegas, we'll celebrate. Yeah.

We're going to be in such good shape next year, just being on the Max Crosby mentality. Hell yeah, you guys are going to be shredded. I want to get my hands on you for like two days. I bet you I can get you to stop working out. You think? Yeah. Zero, zero.

Come hang around a little bit. Yeah, no doubt. All right, thanks, man. Thanks, man. Thanks man. I appreciate it. Today's Firefest segment is sponsored by our friends at Morgan & Morgan. Fixing your Firefest is hard. Submitting a claim with Morgan & Morgan is easy.

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Obviously the last couple of weeks was a stand up, so I feel happy and relieved. So not too much to report. My only Firefest would really just be people that played Blackjack and don't hit on 16. Anybody in particular? There was a woman that I was, I hit the table a little bit this morning

And there was a woman who just did it like three different times. It got me quite tilted Yeah, I did get up after the second time because The dealer would have busted if she had hit she she would have got a 20 Didn't happen. I lost all three times. It's brutal Jerry does that from time to Yeah, he doubles on 12. Yeah, he does. And sometimes he will just not hit on like a 13. Yeah.

Well, is this against a 10, I'm assuming? Against a 10, yeah. Four, five, or six, can't blame him. No, obviously not. No, I'm saying yeah, seven, eight, nine, 10. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, other than that, great week.

Great week, PFT. Yeah, I had a pretty good week. Don't really have, I don't have a firefest. I guess my firefests is we just did an interview and I kind of cried during it. So that's going to be bad when that comes out. So yeah, that's probably just have that to look forward to you didn't cry. I got a little emotional. Yeah, I'm gonna cry. But yeah, besides that, I don't know. It's been a good week. Okay, I'm gonna cry. But yeah, besides that, I don't know. It's been a good week.

Okay. I'm loving Vegas. Okay, yeah. Viva Las Vegas. All right, my firefest, everyone saw on Monday we accosted Mark Davis. We do not have Mark Davis on the show. We're hopefully gonna get him at some point, even though we accosted him.

I had another run in with someone I'd love to have on the show, but I chickened out and that's my firefest. I took a piss next to Tony Romo last night. Oh. And I was like, what's up Tony? And that's all I said, because I was like, this guy, if I say, pardon my take, I, not to, like, he probably knows a little bit about a little bit.

He might have listened to the interview with his, what, brother-in-law? Yeah, he also was wearing a backpack. Someone he works with, definitely probably. Yeah. You know, Breville, Sons of the Clips. I pussied out. So I, I, I replayed it a bunch of times. Also, it's kind of weird in the bathroom.

Um, but yeah, Tony Romo saw him real life. Didn't say, oh, I don't know about that piss there. Yeah. You know, Tony or something like that, which I also was thinking about doing. The stream, I don't know. Yeah. But yeah, he was he had a backpack on. It was weird. Yeah. What is he like six? Yeah. I don't know. It was like a leather backpack, too.

He's probably coming from like a coaches meeting. I don't know. He's walking towards the high high rollers room after we left the bathroom. So I don't know. It was like a leather backpack, too. He's probably coming from a coaches meeting. I don't know. He was walking towards the high, high rollers room after we left the bathroom. So I don't know. Did you fist bump him? No, I followed behind him for a little bit. Did he answer you? Yeah, he was like, hey.

That was it. Yeah. I mean, it's weird to say hello to someone when you take a piss next to him. It would have been a great video, though, if you took your phone out and you're like, hey, Tony. Yeah. You're gonna come up part of my take? Come on, part of my take, dude. Come on, P-Boy. We've been piss next to him. It would have been a great video though if you took your phone out and you're like, hey Tony, you gonna come up part of my take? Come on part of my take, dude.

Come on P-Boy. We've been really mean to you. Okay, Jake. Yeah, first off, apologies for saying radio rose my home. I should have said natural habitat. No, that's, I mean, yeah. We have microphones here too. Yeah.

Yeah, but outside of work people. You want people wearing suits behind the microphone. Yeah, right. You want professionalism. Yeah. Vegas just gives me anxiety. Just the whole thing. No way.

Yeah. Yeah. The lights just like it always feels like you need to be moving. Yeah. Like in my hotel room, I'm like, where's everyone else? I mean, you lived in New York City. Yeah, but like, that's different. Okay.

Like Times Square is different. Yeah, there's a very funny interaction with Jake and the lady at the roulette table. And Jake was standing next to me as we were all playing and this drunk lady behind us was like leaning over him, like trying to place bets. And Jake was standing watching, supporting his friends. And the lady was like, aren't you gonna bet anything?

And Jake was like, no, I'm just here supporting my friends and rooting for my friends. Well, that was Tuesday. And Wednesday I got in and went poorly. Yeah, yeah. But the lady was like, why aren't you betting? And Jake's like, there's plenty of time later on the week for that. So I think Jake's about to get nasty on the table. Well, Wednesday was bad.

But still time to rebound. But yeah, Vegas is just like, where should I be? Yeah, Radio Row, strip club. Yeah, Radio Row. Max, you got a firefest? I farted. Allegedly, that makes it sound like it was only one. I don't I don't know any of these far your firefests is that you had a burrito ripping Did you guys ripping did you guys see my tweet last night? No, oh, yeah, the guy who ordered two sodas

I The these the waiter comes over and starts pouring a soda. I was like I didn't order this soda and then he puts another one on The table. I was like, oh my god Two sodas max. Yeah Get him to so, do not get me to every time you see him in public get him to sodas. But the man needs to sodas. The best thing to happen to max though was memes. Yeah. Yeah, Dave hates memes. Yeah. Memes. What's your firefest? Had a pretty good week. No, this week suck dick.

Sunday night, Wi-Fi didn't work. James Winston interview took too long to upload. And then I bombed on stage in front of Dave and Frank Fleming, who won't forget about this ever. No. Frank playing the cricket sound was very rude. Very rude. Chad, how'd you think the week went?

Dave's a hater. Let Chad have the mic real quick. Chad's our sound guy's been with us all week We always do this Super Bowl week Chad. What do you think about this operation? Operation here is all all good. I think the week went well especially for the recordings and stuff that I did that's some really cool people Got a shout out to Kittle. I owe boy. Yes. Yes. Yeah, I got a picture with Kittle. Yeah Dad was stoked about that too because he's my old boy All right, love it Yeah, great week. All right, shout out chat

Yeah, we all chat. I'm sure we gave a whole shout out to our sound guy that he fucked up the audio Super Bowl Sunday But we're not gonna be here Sunday. So yeah, yeah, so this audio is not fucked up. Yeah. Yeah Hopefully, hopefully not. Oh, I do have another real fire. If I said just remembered I Yeah, I do have another real firefaster just remembered. I started vaping again this week and I blame Hank Lockwood for getting me into it. Because Hank was so stressed out on Sunday when we got here. He just started ripping a vape. I was like, what are you doing, dude? Ripping a vape?

He's like, yeah, just trying to calm the nerves. I was like, Hank, let me get a drag of that. And I took a drag and then about two hours later, I went and fought my own rig. Now, I'm back on the hard stuff. Yeah. Nice. I'm gonna have to start smoking. I I smoked cigarettes last night to wean myself off the vape. That's the best way to quit vape. So I'm just gonna have to smoke more cigarettes. Okay. I love that our hotel smoke free. I hate that. Alright,

let's get to ourselves back in studio. Last one with the Schwam. Everyone enjoy Super Bowl Sunday and we will see you on Monday morning. All right Super Bowl week wrapped the big game is coming up and we still got the Schwam for the lottery balls all week long if you've been following along you guessed 22 on Monday it was 56 he guessed 18 on Wednesday it was was 22. So now what do you do? Numbers? Do I do it in Roman numerals? Super Bowl 58. Okay. All right 58. I'll go 71 again. I'll go eight again 40 for Hank 18 for Jake chain, 21 and 3 for memes.

One, one, one, one, one, one, one, first time it's ever hit. Love you guys oh boom if we're still recording do you have a do you have a first touchdown pick oh yeah oh this is important stuff very important first touchdown you want to me to make it goofy or try to win no whatever you think whatever you say we're gonna bet that's true well he he's the favorite of it, right? Like Kelsey's the lowest no McCaffrey would definitely be McCaffrey numbers are nuts. Yeah Yeah, yeah, but you check hurt my head too much What about gray the other tight end on the on the Chiefs?

That would be yeah. Kelsey's the obvious. How about just for the heck of it? I don't really you should bet this. Just we I will. Nothing you can do. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm talking about it. Say it. Yeah, don't worry. Tell you what, we won't bet. We've already given our pick for the game. Yeah, yeah. So I've said to Chiefs to win,

which I mean they're gonna score first. This is a me problem, not a you problem. Whatever you say, I'm gonna bet, but that's not your fault. That's my fault. Boy, are we so happy with Valdis Scantley. Oh, okay, all right. It's in, it's in.

I mean, now that's gotta be a big number, right? Yeah, that's a big number. It's in, it's in. I have no choice. We'll put a lot big number, right? Yeah, that's a big number. It's in. It's in. I have no choice. We'll put a lot of shekels on it. Oh, we're putting a lot of shekels on it. Oh, yeah.

We're putting a lot of shekels on it. I can't say something that's spicy and expect us not to take it. The plan is simple. I'm going to put a lot of money on tails. That will hit. And then we put all the winnings on Veldesk entling. That's a true. But it tells every tales never fails.

Is that true. Yeah. It right. Tales never fails. It rhymes. Yeah. You definitely know. You have to.

I've lost a lot of money on. You have to bet the the over on the national anthem to. Always. How long it is. Yeah. Yeah. You have to bet over. Yeah.

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I think if Valdez scantling scores the first touchdown, I think the 49ers would be like, what is that? This does not feel good to us. Yeah, we might as well just quit right now. It's going to be 22 to 18. Yeah. That's a B the way that he would call that. Yeah. I don't think so because if they're at the 25,

they're at the 10, he's not gonna do it. They're at the, it would have to be like from the third. And when it was weird Andy Reid, Red Zone plays, you know, they have two guys in motion, shovel pass to a reverse coming around the edge. But I don't know that he would carry a he could. Well, they're not going to give it a me call. Probably not. No, I mean, yeah, he called throwing the ball like from your

if you're like at midfield, send them long. Yeah. So Miko throwing the ball. No, no, no, no. No, this is getting real. I like it. Yeah. I like it. I. I like it.

It's been long. I'm retiring. We're not doing a show next year. I'm going to win so much money on this. I'm retiring. You're still on. Yeah, we're still on. We're going to, I'm going to retire.

We'll just have you come talk ball. We won't even have microphones. Me, Cole, he can ride. He's the fastest. Yep. OK. It's the best in. Ninth and fastest.

Ayuk's pretty fast. Ebo's pretty fast. But Kaffir's pretty fast. They're all fast. Pretty fast. Nine of the fastest. Ayuk's pretty fast, Ebo's pretty fast, McAfhy's pretty fast. They're all fast. Pretty fast. Yeah, they are. They're all fast. I'd love to see you check score,

but they don't run, they don't run him like they did. Okay, so we'll go, we'll go, we'll go MVS first touchdown, you check, anytime touchdown. Love it, there's the plan. They don't, you can't talk me out of it. You used to run five or six times a game. They don't, I know. You can't the run out of it five or six times a game. They don't. You

can't talk me out of it. I know. Yeah. I was trying to not go chalk. You know, they did give him the ball, I think inside the the five last week. I think he got a touch. So, he'll get one. He's yeah, that was just a dress rehearsal.

We're in. Yeah, we're in. I like it. I like it. I think that might have more of a shot, well, not a first score. Anytime. Yeah, I don't like it. I love it. Well, the scaling might be in any time. Yeah. We're going first.

We're going first. In any time. Fuck it. What else would be a first? Here we go. MBS, anytime, plus 550, first touchdown, 31. I like that, 31 to 1. And then any time. Anytime. Oh, I like that, 31 to one. And then, anytime. Anytime.

Oh no, sorry, first. First is 31 to one. Oh, that's a hammer play for me. You check anytime 10 to one. I like that. Perfect. I like that. Okay.

All right. No, that's, he should be about eight to one. So I think you're getting a. Good value. Yeah, you're getting some value there. Valda scaling is 31 to, I could go down. So what are they, McCaffrey and Kelsey or whatever they are?

For first or anytime. No, first. Actually Travis Kelsey first is eight to one. Not bad. Pretty good. Yeah. And then. Jake go lower than him.

McCaffrey is plus 360 first touchdown, which is absurd. That's just this is perfect. Boom. I'm going to put I'm going to parlay you check anytime touchdown with Marquez Valdez scantling first touchdown five grand to win one million dollars.

Done. I wouldn't. If you were asking me that, I wouldn't. I want to do it. All right. Thank you. Yeah. They're they're difficult names to spell. Yeah. Right. So that should count. Yeah. Use check. Why not? Why not? us. All right. Thank you, Boom. As

always, you're the best. I didn't realize we were in the in the speakeasy. Say love you guys love you guys Take me on me, take me on I'll take a little of today Needless to say, I'm upset and spunky Stumbling away, turning, turning Life is up in, say after me

It's no better to be safe inside Better to be safe inside Better to be safe inside Better to be safe inside They call me Take me home You saved yourself. Take on me. Take me out. I'll be gone. When I tell you to.