Pardon My Take - Gilbert Arenas, Knicks Up 2-0, Thunder And Wolves Tie The Series, The Pope Is American, Playoff Hockey And Fyre Fest With Some Bonus Mystery Guests

Episode Date: May 9, 2025

We start with Thursday night games and it turns out Steph Curry is very important to the Warriors as the Wolves tie the series(00:00:00-00:08:20). We talk playoff hockey and the Capitals catch phrase that has some people confused(00:08:20-00:20:24). The Pope is American and from Chicago and its another win for USA(00:20:24-00:24:45). George Pickens on the Cowboys is a match made in heaven(00:24:45-00:38:39). We then kick it back to studio with Hank and talk Celtics Knicks after another 20 point blown lead by the Celtics and a special guest joins us via zoom to rattle Hank more(00:38:39-01:03:13). The Thunder are back on track after destroying the Nuggets Wednesday night(01:03:13-01:13:54). Gilbert Arenas joins the show to talk playoff basketball, his new documentary out on Netflix, his career, card games and the time he walked in on Lamar Odom having sex(01:13:54-02:15:23). We finish with fyre fest and Max joins us from Hawaii to make one of the worst arguments in show history(02:15:23-02:39:53).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon music on today's part of my take. We have an awesome interview with Gilbert arenas. We're talking his career, his new Netflix untold story, play off basketball with him. We also might have a couple special guests jump on at various times, whether it be Nick Celtics or fire fast. So you got to tune in for that. We're going to talk playoffs, hockey, NBA. We got a new Pope. He's American. We have George Pickens on the Cowboys and we're going to finish with fire fast. So a great Friday show for everyone. It's brought to you by our friends at DraftKings. UFC 315 is almost here. We've got two title fights with Muhammad versus Della Maddalena and Valentina Schvenko and versus Mennon Firaat.

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For additional terms and responsible gaming resources, see dkng.co.au. Okay, let's go. I love guys who like football. And guys who like football, they like me back. And I like them back. And even guys who don't like football, they try to avoid me because I'm always trying to get them to like football. Football. Football.

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Yeah. And then he gets in the ref's face being like, fuck you. Fuck you asking you to get kicked out because he knows that Steph's not playing. Yeah, so I have a question for you. So Draymond Green did for the 7,000th time the move where he just flails his arms and legs at an opponent like he's having a full body spasm. This is a world-class athlete who has incredible body control, but somehow this keeps happening to him.

I actually feel bad. He should probably see a doctor about this affliction. But afterwards you mentioned it. He yelled at the refs. I think the rest were just scared of Draymond because he just, he gets his technical like right away. And then he, he, and then the refs like just tune them out for the rest of the game. It's crazy. I think they're just scared to kick him out of a game. Here's, here's how it went down. He flails his arms, gets the tea that he wanted. Then the ref goes up to me. He's like, I'm not going to kick you out. Draymond is like, fucking kick me out. Fuck you do it. Fuck you. And the ref's like, sorry, you can keep cussing all you want.

You're not getting ejected from this game. You got to play. Yeah. Your punishment is to have to play without Steph Curry in a playoff game. And that was punishment because the war, the wolves were so much better than the warriors tonight. Uh, there just was no, like the warriors just couldn't, they didn't have enough offense and the, and the wolves, like even with Anthony Edwards, which there was a second there where I thought we were going to watch wolves warriors with no Anthony Edwards and no Steph Curry. And it was going to be the biggest bummer of all time. Uh, but he went out for, I was it like a quarter or so?

He came back in the second half. So the Wolves, even without Anthony Edwards, they got all their other guys to step up. Like Julius Randall stepped up big time. Jay McDaniel stepped up. Nas Reid. Nikhil Alexander Walker had 20. So the Wolves feel like they're back on track

a little bit here, especially if Steph's not gonna play. Cause I don't know, I don't know how the Warriors win this series without Steph. Actually, I'll just say the Warriors will not win this series without Steph. They don't, they don't win the series without Steph for sure. I think that the Wolves without Ant would be favored in Minnesota, I'd say by five and a half points

over the Warriors without Steph. Yeah, yeah. And we had, let's see, that Jayden McDaniels, that block and dunk was awesome. I mean, the crowd was into it. It was good. It was good to see the Timberwolves get back on track. By the way, I should have mentioned to start,

obviously we record the beginning, we recap the Thursday night games from Zoom. Hank is on this episode. We're going back to the studio after we start the show because I some people might skip the intro and just see that Hank's not here and like, wow, what a coward. No, he is. He is not a coward.

He is on this show and we have a couple special guests including Gilbert arenas, but a couple extra special guests when we get back in studio. So just want to set that he also might be a coward and be on the show. That's another option too. Yeah, it could be both. It could be both. But yeah, it's in this case, like, I think that Steph is actually going to come back sooner than we think that he is. I wouldn't be

shocked if he tried to play in their next game, because he knows. And with the team they've got right now, he feels like he's been saying like this feels like the last dance type thing that we're trying to do right now. I think he's going to try to come back maybe too soon. I hope not too soon. I hope he's able to play and play healthy because I like watching Steph play. But, uh, it's like, you know, it's like getting a blowjob big cat. That's what I always say about that.

I do think that he's going to give it a shot and try to play sooner than he probably should. Um, and we'll see if it works out from there. Yeah, I feel like He might play Saturday. I feel like they might just like be like hey Let's just try to win this game Saturday without him then Monday It's you know, you if you go down to one Monday It's like you need him and then and then if you can get it tied then then you have a little bit of a brick Like there's the Wednesday game, but then there's a little break all the way till Sunday. The NBA scheduling makes no sense. They're playing every other night until Wednesday and then the next game is Sunday. So I don't

understand that. But yeah, I, I want to see stuff back out there. I mean, I think the Timberwolves are very good. I think they can beat step. They beat the Warriors with Steph. It's just that when Steph's not there, there's a 0% chance. Yeah. No chance at all for the Warriors. Jerry Butler can do anything and everything that he wants to do. And he can have a great game without stuff for sure. But again, like the whole team is going to be limited without one of the best players of all time. Yeah. Um, we also, what did the, uh,

the wolves finally, finally shot well from three. So they fixed it. They had a two game stretch where I think we mentioned on Wednesday shows 17% and 14%. They, they, they were very good from three tonight. So that's a encouraging sign for the wolves and feel like they're back on track. Like a one, one, they did kind of what the thunder did. And we're going to get to that, But like you're the higher seed. You have home court. You can't lose the first two and they won

this one in convincing fashion. They can go to Golden State and be like, all right, we can do this. The thing about Steph Curry and how big of a difference he makes is it's actually crazy, especially gets a team like the Timberwolves where I think most I think you could put stuff on any team in the NBA and they would be able to win at least one game in a seven game series. Like obviously it'd be five.

That's how big a difference makes because he'll have one where he just goes nuclear. He doesn't miss anything. And then the whole spacing on defense is thrown off because you have to account for the outside shooting and then they can get one, maybe even two games off most teams with Steph Curry. Maybe not the really bad teams. Maybe not the Wizards. Maybe not the Sixers. Maybe not the Sixers.

Well, the Sixers, if Steph Curry played on the Sixers, they would rest him. Yeah, they probably would. He probably would just get injured. All right, so PFT, like I said, we're going to have Hank on, and everyone's going to be back together in studio in a minute. Was there a thought watching the Caps game when it got to two one? We spent basically 30 minutes grilling Hank being down to both home games.

Was there a thought you're like, oh, fuck, this is not going to age well when we when we kick it back to studio and everyone's like, but PFT, you're down to at home. Was there that thought you're like, oh fuck, this is not gonna age well when we kick it back to studio and everyone's be like, but PFT, you're down 0-2 at home. Was there that, did that thought cross your head? That thought crossed my head all day today. That thought started crossing my head right when the Celtics lost last night. I'm not rooting against the Celtics per se, but I am rooting against Hank.

Because it's a lot of fun to watch Hank lose. I think most people would agree with me by the way, even if you know, you don't feel one way or the other about the Celtics, I would rather see him lose than see him win. Uh, but yeah, that thought crossed my mind the second that the game ended yesterday. I didn't really even get to enjoy the loss that much because I was just thinking, well, this is what I'm staring down for my own personal game too. And there's a lot of similarities between the caps and the Celtics in terms of like how their seasons gone, the expectations for them. Uh, and I'm

just, I wake up every day and I think my lucky stars at Hank is not smart enough to see that I'm opening myself up to all sorts of responses from him. He doesn't watch hockey. That's the best part. You like the whole time he could just reverse all these things on you. Every word that I say to him doesn't see it. He does not see it at all. Every word, every single word that I say to Hank could very easily have been said right back to me regarding the couch. But guess what? We don't have to have that conversation because we split at home. Tom Wilson played one of the best games of hockey that I've seen anybody play all year. And it was, it was in every aspect of the game.

Even if you're a Tom Wilson hater, which I acknowledge there are, there are many Tom Wilson haters. And in fact, I think most fans of other teams probably hate Tom Wilson, but if Tom Wilson was on your team, you would love him. That's just the kind of player that he is. And I've had to deputize myself as like a Tom Wilson defender in the last several years because you can slow down every screenshot and make a case that, oh, this guy is dirty. This guy does blah, blah, blah. He's also really fucking skilled and he had a great assist tonight. He played

awesome on defense. In addition to some of the big hits that he had, he took away a goal from Orlov and then he blocked a shot like five seconds afterwards. And yeah, just an all around great game of hockey from Tom Wilson. He's, he's so much fun to watch and I'm glad that the caps were able to pull one out. We look, we look pretty good tonight. There's more juice. We had juice in the building. You know what? There's more juice. It wasn't juice. Big cat. I was wrong. It's not the juice that we needed. What was it?

Agape. We needed to get agape in the building tonight. That's the cap's catchphrase right now. And it's spelled A-G-A-P-E. OK. So it's agape. OK. And they handed out towels tonight for the game, for the fans, that just said agape on them.

In the stands, they had like a laser projection before the game that said agape. And then when you say agape, all the fans at the stands, they had like a laser projection before the game that said, agape. And then when you, when you say agape, all the fans of the stands make what looks like a hole with their hands, but it's really a heart. Okay. It's like a gape. Look at, I'm going to gape right now. It's the funniest thing ever.

It is like a biblical word for like true love, like the highest form of love that you can have, but they still have the word agape plastered all over the arena and they're making a giant hole with their hands when they show their support for the agape movement. Okay, as an unbiased third party, I don't know if you can win a cup with agape. You don't think so? I don't think so. I just, that doesn't, that's like, if you have a catchphrase that people are saying incorrectly, that's tough, but I have to agree with that. I'm not, I'm not trying to like, it just a fact. Like if we saw this on, if we saw this from another team,

we would make fun of it. Yeah. But that's it's like Tom Wilson. I would hate Tom Wilson. I love a game. I love a game. You gotta love a gape. I love a gape big cat. You got to gape your heart out. You got to gape till you can't gape anymore. I'm just telling you from a removed set of eyes. Yeah. It's bad. Listen, I am the most. What's a gape?

Let's gape together. I'm going to gape out of my eyeballs. Part of my take is the number one most agape podcast in the United States. I'm the biggest. I'm the biggest, tell me shit I've ever heard. I'm the most agape guy on the planet right now. When I'm watching, when I watched Tom Wilson, I get agape. What is the Genesis of it? Who came up with it?

It's a biblical word. You got a problem with the Lord? No, no, I'm saying like who, who I know it's, I, and you said it was a biblical word. I'm saying who was like, Hey, we're going to use this word because I'm saying this cautiously. Yep. Because all these things usually like they'll do the uno reverse card on you and be like, oh, it's actually one of the one of the guys kids who has cancer. He says a gape to his dad right before he leaves for the rink every night.

Like, I don't want that to happen. But where did this start? It started with our backup goalie. I think it was Charlie Lindgren. OK, that helps. He helps. He's a big he's a big like Christian literature guy. God. And so he read about the concept of agape love being the most pure form of love. So he brought it to my understanding.

And I'm reading between the lines because there's nothing from the capitals that like they know that the word is a gape. You have to know that the word is gape, but they don't do any anything to like wink, wink at you about why this is a big thing for us. So reading between the lines, I think that it was Charlie Lindgren, who's a big Christian literature guy. He read about the concept of agape love, brought it to the locker room and said, this is what I'm reading about.

It's like the best form of the highest form of love that you can have for somebody that you truly care about. Like we care about each other in this locker room. And then I think what probably happened was all the guys in locker room were like, holy shit, a gape. Yeah. And then they started saying a gape. And then they told the team PR person, yeah, this is this form of love. And then they ran with it. That's what's going on here. So also, also you got to fight fire with fire. We're going up against brandy love

and she is a very gay person too. That's true. She's a gape a lot. Uh huh. Yeah. So the, I still think that's a tough phrase to win a cup with. It helps a lot that it's a backup goalie the best, like when you start, when you think about championship teams, the best catch phrases and ideas usually come from offensive linemen catchers, backup catchers, backup goalies. These are the things, you know, the guy on the, you know, guy on the bench in a basketball like team who's the 10th on the bench who only comes in, you know, when you're already up like these, you can't have your stars creating these. So you get a little points back for that. Yeah. Yeah. Listen, I'm going all in on it. I'm all in on a gape right now. By the way. So other hockey stuff

I don't, we got to wait till we get yandle on or biz or Whitney. Cause my question to them will be, is we talk about it with baseball and basketball, like being in the zone. If, if that exists in hockey, Miko Rantanen is in the zone because what he's doing right now is insane. So he had a hat trick, a natty, Hattie on, on Wednesday night in the last four games, he has had eight goals and six assists. Pretty ridiculous.

He is crazy. Absolutely on fire. And the Stars took the first game of the series on the road. And it feels like the Stars are going to win the Cup. I don't know. Maybe that's a stupid thing to say, but it feels like they're really fucking good. Would you say they're aligning right now?

They feel like they might be aligning. And with those goals, didn't he get a hat trick in one period in those games? It was in the second period last night on Wednesday night. Excuse me. It was in third period against the ads game seven. Yeah, it's crazy. It's unbelievable what that guy said. That wasn't the stars. The abs game wasn't a natty hatty because it was an open goal. Right. But why does an open goal empty net? Yeah. I just got caught up in Natty-Hattie,

but that's fine. I, I, I feel like the downplaying of empty netters is, uh, is something that the casual fan would do because you're winning the, if you're winning a playoff game and they got to take the goalie out, that means that you guys did something right. Yeah, they count. Uh, and then I, I the Leafs, it it might be their year. That was, that was a nice, another one where it's like, now it is early in the series and the Leafs usually leaf later in the series. But if you had to save through two games, the way they are fighting and winning these games and something about biz with that mustache, every time I see him with that mustache, I'm like, shit, something magical. That, that really is like business mustache dominates a gape.

Yeah. Like that's kind of like, so it might imply a gape too. That's true. He, I mean the love definition. Yeah. Did you see the video of him after they won on Wednesday night? He I did he's going massage. He's going nuts and and that's why I can't take anything that he says about the cap seriously because I know he's gonna turn his back on me the second that they go up against the Leafs and Also, let's not forget that Paul Biss net is a bet welcher

Mm-hmm. That's true He made a bet about getting circumcised a couple years ago if the Leafs didn't win a playoff series and he never did it. Yeah. And by the way, speaking of that, we should shout out Paul Pierce for actually walking to the studio today. He said before game two of the Nick Celtic series, if the Knicks win that game, he's going to walk from his house to his job. I think it was 20 miles. We're living in a world where guys aren't eating poop on camera and, and Welching on all types of, but aren't putting burrito. No, I think the guy did put the burrito up his ass. I'm pretty sure he put the burrito

up his ass. So that guy's off the hook. Yeah. But, uh, Paul Pierce deserves a shout out for that. And then came in in wheelchair. That was a, that was some good, some good TV. Yeah, that was excellent. Just scored again. Oilers are up three one there and then he was walking, he was walking to work and then Kevin Garnett drove past him. Yeah. Found out where he was driving and just gave him a little fly by real quick. That was credit credit to Paul Pierce. He is the truth. There's a lot of guys, like there's a lot of bets that are not getting paid up like Max isn't hasn't done the Dingers only League. I'm owed $500 from a random guy online.

Right. The other guy hasn't eaten the poop. FSU. Yeah, it is sad state of affairs in this country, but I'm glad to see that Paul Pierce is living up to it with the Leafs. Nylander might be close to be in the zone, too. Yeah, he's having a great playoffs and shout out Mitch Marner He got a baby goal

Yeah, he had a I think is his first kid over the weekend on Saturday Maybe and then had an awesome shot from pretty much on the boards that he just sniped in the Leafs are fun Do you find my I find myself rooting for the Leafs me too? I and again I we know that like there's gonna be a lot of our Canadian listeners and be like you guys are fucking assholes Don't root for the Leafs. Me too. And again, we know that like there's going to be a lot of our Canadian listeners and be like, you guys are fucking assholes. Don't root for the Leafs. But they are fun. I don't know what to say. I root for the Leafs, but I also, I think it's hilarious if they were to lose. If I had to have one thing I could say negative about the Leafs, it bothers me how veiny the Leaf is. Oh yeah. I think it's just a little too much veins. I like that it's anatom. Oh, yeah. I think it's just a little too much veins.

I like that it's anatomically correct. And I like that it is. That's a lot of veins. That's where the maple surface. Yeah, that's where the good stuff comes from. They're like an IV. Yeah. And just pour it out.

But yeah, we're really in a no lose situation with these leaves because it's awesome if they lose because it's very funny and they're a fun team. So if if they win we get to watch and play more. Yeah and I think if the Caps can't go to the Stanley Cup final I think we all should be rooting for Oilers Leafs because it would be I mean incredible for spitting chiclets will be all time. Yeah also just as a, it would be fun to watch. Yeah. Be very fun. Uh, speaking of Canada, by the way, uh, we have a American Pope, so suck on that first ever from Chicago white socks fan. They found Chicago sun times, found a picture of like, uh, a father and son and in the background is the Pope. What's his official name? Pope Leo the 14th. Leo the something. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, they found him in the background of the,

of the 2005 world series. Uh, so yeah, that it's awesome. We got, and we, we got an American pope suck on that. Everyone. Yeah. It's very important. I finally representation matters. Now American kids can grow up thinking they too can be the pope one day. And apparently this guy's neighbor in Chicago told him growing up like one day you will be the first American Pope. I was like, you can be the Pope. I did see someone quote you and said that neighbor LeBron James. Yeah, that's a fact. Definitely. Yeah, but it's very cool to be able to say to the world that has, you know, you've all had your turns

with popes. Italy's had like a million popes before and now it's time. Let's get American in there. Kick some ass. Let's see what we do with it. And we might just never relinquish it. It might be just a thing where it's like, you know, we took over your, come, come in your trap, take over your trap.

Yeah. Cousins also the Pope. But yeah, the picture of him at the world series game for the white socks was, it was very funny. And I saw another picture of her of him in a, uh, Chicago pizzeria like a year ago, just standing there. He looked, he looks like a pure Chicago guy. It's so funny to like, cause like, you know, the Pope has never been American. So now we have a Pope who we can be like, hey, he actually watches our sports. Like he could, this pope who is the head of the Catholic church could actually have like been thinking at one point

in the last couple of months being like, Ben Johnson is going to save Caleb Williams. Like that could be a thought in his head, the guy who's running the Catholic church. I mean, credit to Ryan Poles because Chicago's, they're going to be way better at Hail Mary's next year. Yeah. They got the hope. They got the Pope on their side. They can't wait. They can't win a Superbowl with the Pope on their side. I mean, and obviously

there was the, the, the joke of the day was the, the, uh, Catholic church got it or Chicago got a Pope before the bears got a 4,000 yard passer. That was funny. That's pretty neat. I thought the joke of the day was just stealing it was, yeah, Williams did tweet that as well. Yeah, it stole my tweet, stole my tweet, Caleb. But I pointed out to Caleb that if you're going to make fun of Jayden Daniels mom, then you're also making fun of the depote. No girls. That's true. That's true. That's true. The, uh, it's, it's, it is crazy though, to be like this guy, like what does he watch football? I assume so. He has to, he's American. He absolutely watches football a million percent. I need, I need just his like thoughts on, on just the most mundane things just to,

to rile up the like super religious people being like, yeah, I actually am thinking about this. Yeah. Like I did actually say that if we, if I'm going to be the Pope, I'm going to need YouTube TV for, for kickoffs on Sunday. Mm hmm. The, the players like, thank God after the game and the Pope's just like, you're welcome. Talk to them. I got you boys. I hooked that up. I hooked that up for you. They're also big misstep by the cubs though. Big miscalculation by the guys. There were some, there's some weird reports. They claimed the Pope and, and then it took a real journalist to go out there boots on the ground journalism, find his brother and be like, which, which baseball team does he actually root for? Cause you can't lie on the Pope's name. You can't do

that. And yeah, it was a tough, it was tough. The marquee showing it. Uh, it wasn't great. It wasn't great. I hope this doesn't submarine the entire Cub season, but the thought has crossed my mind. It might literally be blasphemy. Yeah. They false prophet, right? Yeah. Hey, Chicago, what do you say? The Pope is from the USA. There you go. That one was good. That's a banger. That is a banger. Oh, all right. What else? Oh, we got to pick a first first basket for Friday night. So draft Kings, we're doing our first basket competition. The NBA playoffs are finally here. It's about to get wild. High stakes drama, insane buzzer beaters, jaw dropping dunks and the excitement you live for. And guess what DraftKings Sportsbook and official sports betting partner of the NBA is giving you a chance to boost your winnings

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and SGA plus 425 in the DraftKings Sportsbook to score the first basket. What do you got? Okay, I'm gonna go Pascal Siakam plus 850 first basket, Pascal's wager, and then Jokic plus 600 to score in the nightcap, yeah. I like it. So yeah, they just, I think that's fair.

They don't get a pick. Yeah, I mean, it's in the stipulations of the rules of the contest is that you have to be present on part of my take to make the pick. We texted saying, are we ready to go? And wait, memes, you said don't type a gape on Twitter? Oh, no. Now you have to type a gape on Twitter.

I'm doing it right now. And then once you go three tweets down, it's just. Is this going to fuck up my algorithm? No, you just you see a guy with massive hog and then oh, what is he doing? He's gaping. He's gaping. Is it go see? Yeah, I saw it. Okay. Yeah. Go see yourself. That's fine. Yeah. Listen, it's not for the faint of heart. Not everyone's built to get a gape like I am. Yeah. Yeah. We're not going to gape anymore on Twitter. That's fair. All right. So last thing we want to talk about George Pickens gets traded to the Cowboys and this is perfect because I, George Pickens

with Jerry Jones is like, if you had to pick where you want him to go, I think that would be the, the, the perfect marriage. Jerry Jones also saying that he was going to make a big move, whether before the draft or after the draft promises made promises delivered. Apparently this is the big move. The only problem for Jerry Jones is like the, you know, don't don't start. What is it? Don't start a war in Russia in the winter. Uh, what, what was the, what was princess bride? Never saw it. You never saw princess bride. I, I've dropped in and out of it a few times. Uh, so, and I understand the references. Okay. Hold on. I'm going to find it. Don't I'm your father prepared to die. Something like that. Yeah. I'm a Negro Montoya, uh, Never get involved in a land war in Asia.

What's the whole fucking quote? I don't know. Either way, what I was getting to. Yeah, there you go. You got them all. I think it's inconceivable, right? It's inconceivable. Yeah. I think it's also like net. Don't go against. Don't get into a poison off with like in a Sicilian. I butchered this. My point, though, is never trade for wide receiver from Mike Tomlin because Mike Tomlin is trading his wide receiver for a reason. And that means that Mike Tomlin is done with his wide receiver and he doesn't want him anymore. And you can go back.

Deontay Johnson, Chase Claypool, Antonio Brown, who I know won a Superbowl with the bucks, but he got traded to the Raiders and that didn't last more than what a month. And then he became a sex criminal too. Yeah. Martavis Bryant, San Antonio homes. Okay. On the jets, but he was obviously that was his best years were on the Steelers. Mike Tomlin, when he's like, I'm done with the, with, with the wide receiver, that's it's over. It's damaged goods. You don't want to do that. Yeah. I mean, I don't think that is, is a little bit different from the other examples that you gave because some of those other guys, not all of them, but,

but some of them were towards the downside of their career. I don't think that anyone's saying that Pickens physically is getting towards the downside of his career. Um, like when you look when you look at Mike Wallace, he probably wasn't, he was probably like Raider Prime. He was, yeah, he played well on the, on the Dolphins and the Ravens after. Yeah, but a lot of those others were kind of like on the downside.

They had reached their peak physically and they were getting slower, not faster at that point. Pickens is a little bit different from that, but also if Mike Tomlin doesn't think he can't handle you anymore, that is a pretty good sign that Jerry Jones won't be able to handle you. Now, what I think is a big, big warning sign

for this entire operation here for the Cowboys is that Pickens is not signing an extension. So he's on a one-year deal. Now, you might be saying to yourself, well, PFT doesn't that just mean that he's going to be highly motivated to be productive this year so he can cash in a free agency? Yes, that is a valid point. However, I think the bigger point is that if CD lamb starts getting the lion's share of the targets,

and Pickens isn't involved in the game plan, he is going to blow his head off. He is going to go fucking insane even by George Pickens standards because he always wants the ball in general. And he's a great player. He does. He does deserve the ball, I think, more than he's gotten in the past. But even when he's getting the ball a decent amount, he still flips out. And he does crazy shit because he's frustrated when he's really not getting the ball and it's impacting his bottom line on what he's gonna sign for

In free agency. I feel like I feel like it's a volatile mix. Yes, I would agree with that I Would say that yeah, George Pickens Look, he's got all the talent. It's just can he do everything else? I mean remember the end He had that zero he had that we had that game. What was it? Was it a playoff? No, it wasn't the playoff game. I think it was the Bengals game where he had one reception for like minus one yard. Yeah. In the last week of the season. And I, I don't know. I just yeah, it feels like a combustible situation. And again, I'm going to go just trust Mike Tomlin that if he doesn't want you anymore as a wide receiver, that means something's up. Yeah, it's probably not a Mike Tomlin problem. I think it's on the other foot, but I do love George Pickens

is still like one of the more electric players in the NFL to watch. Yeah, I'm rooting for him to do well because it would be fun. It's fun when he's good and he makes crazy catches and he goes crazy on the field. The only other question I had for you, PFT, knowing how the Steelers operate, knowing how Mike Tomlin operates, they always need a crazy guy at wide receiver. Do you think there is a part of DK Metcalf who walked in the locker room? I don't know if they're in OTAs or whatever, or just showed up to training and he's like, looks around and he's like, wait, so it's me?

I'm the crazy, I have to be the crazy guy now. I think a lot of times teams do that if they have got a young superstar and they got to trade away like the old veteran presence to really let the young superstar grow into their role. Jason Tate of MarketSmart was the heartbeat of that team. And Brad Stevens was like, we love you, Marcus, but we got to get rid of you and let these guys step it up.

I think this is a challenge. I think Mike Tomlin is issuing a challenge to DK Metcalf to really get fucking nuts with it this year. Yeah. I think he can fulfill it. Yeah. I do too. Do you think DK is like, wait, so those, uh, like personal fouls and, uh, all

these like extracurricular penalties, I get to do George's now too. Yeah. You're stepping into the, that's the Steelers wide receiver one position. Yeah. Yeah. That's what that means. And I think he's, he's capable. They might be able to offset some of the crazy if they get Aaron Rogers, that would be like a different element of crazy. So I went on Pittsburgh radio with our guys this week and they they basically were like Aaron Rodgers. So this was a theory from our guys Bill Crawford and Randy Bowman and I told him I was going to steal this theory and essentially so I'm actually crediting them. Essentially they said that they're waiting. The Aaron Rodgers is a quarterback for the

Pittsburgh Steelers. That's what they said. It starts there. Aaron Rogers is already the quarterback for the Pittsburgh Steelers, but they're basically playing a game of chicken because Aaron Rogers knew maybe wife. I don't know. He was wearing a wedding ring at a Kentucky Derby is big into astrology. And if Aaron Rogers signs with the Steelers before the schedule comes out, they're going to give the Steelers a ton of night games and they don't want that to happen because Aaron Rogers is a little older and astrology playing at night. So there, he's just waiting for the schedule to come out. Then he will sign with the Steelers and make it official and then probably bring, you know,

all the Packers like Randall Cobb will probably be there. Jordi Nelson will probably be there. That's where the rest of the receivers are going to come from. So that's their theory and I loved it and I told them it was a great theory and I was going to share it on Pardon My Take and they also threw in the extra of like their astrologist, his astrologist wife slash girlfriend being like, you know, uh, Mercury is in renegade. Real yin or shit. Oh, I like that. That's, that's a great saying. Shout out those guys. I love the guys. So it's an interesting thing. Um, you're saying that she, as an astrologist doesn't want him playing games at night. Is it that when she it's partially it's partially I think his age and then

partially like he they she wants him to be in the best spot and I guess night like doesn't line up with it's all crazy crazy pseudo science that you have to believe. Yeah, I think it's playing this game just so that he doesn't have to play at night. I think it's more just astronomy. It's like it's nighttime outside. Does that make you an astrologist to be like, I don't see the sun. Yeah. You can say I'm a bit of a star freak myself.

We should look into seeing what Aaron Rogers sign is and compare that to what George Pickens sign is and see if the two of them are compatible or compatible. Yeah. I mean, it is member that might be it. Remember our theory at the end of Tom Brady's career with the box. them are compatible or compatible. Yeah, I mean it is member that might be it. Member our theory at the end of Tom Brady's career with the box. We're like, and because he had a string of late games where he didn't play well and it's like, yeah, he's 45 years old dude. He wants to go to bed at eight o'clock at night and they're kicking off at eight fifteen that yeah, this could be a situation where he's like, listen, I know the Steelers

are a national brand. They're going to get a certain amount of prime time games, but if there's Aaron Rogers, they'll probably get a couple more because he does. He does put asses in the seat. So I think we're going to get Aaron Rogers on the Steelers on May 15th. If they go into the season with nowhere and Rogers into the schedule, I would, I feel like they would get maybe one like Mason Rudolph as the quarterback. What does that do for you? Yeah. Yeah. It would, it would definitely be less. Uh, so that might be their, their play.

Okay. So George Pickens, when's his birthday? Let's look this up here. His birthday is March 4th, 2001. What size is him? him a locker room cancer. Okay. Pisces. No, I don't know. I guessed. Okay. Am I right? Yes.

Wow. The only ones I know are Capricorn, Aquarius and Pisces. Oh, Leo too, right? That's the Pope. Yeah, that is the Pope. Da Pope. All right. So he's a Pisces and Aaron Rodgers is a Sagittarius.

Okay. Do Sagittarius and Pisces get along Pisces? And let's find out. This is the type of hard hitting analysis that only part of my take can give you Pisces and Sagittarius. While different conform a surprisingly strong connection in both friendship and romance. Maybe they were afraid they were going to start dating.

That is a real fear. The contrasting elements water and fire can create a dynamic and exciting partnership, but also require understanding communication and advocate potential clashes. Sagittarius is need for freedom and independence may clash with Pisces desire for emotional security. That that checks out to me. Yeah, and also Sagittarius is direct and blunt,

which can be hurtful to Pisces who are sensitive and emotional. That checks out. Aaron Rodgers is very direct and blunt, and George Pickens is very emotional. We should get an astrologist on part of my take and do our full NFL team record predictions based off astrology.

Yeah. Oh man. Clear and honest, open communications. But it also, it gets deeper than that if you read the whole chart. So I'm assuming that Aaron Rogers, girlfriend, wife, Jordan, whatever it is, that individual has, you know, they get deep into it. They find out what time of day you were born, that whole thing. And then they, they do the big sketch out the chart. And they're like, okay, now I can tell you the most generic things possible that you will find to be seemingly

accurate. Yeah, by the way, we haven't we haven't had any updates on Jordan. That's true. I did hear one. I heard one update on Jordan. She as her job, as as the head PR marketing person for Belichick's book, she is giving every UNC graduate a copy of her book this year or his book. That's a good way to sell it.

So yeah, bumping those numbers up a little bit. Good job, Jordan. Jordan did it. Oh, Jules spoke out and said that she's a distraction. You got to keep that in the clubhouse, Jules. Yeah, come on, Jules. Jules just mad that he's getting Wally pipped. Oh, man.

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If you thought it was a rerun you would you're not going crazy The Knicks were down 20 points again The Celtics missed a ton of threes again and the New York Knicks are somehow up To Oh in this series Hanks looking for the remote. I think he's trying to stall because he doesn't want us to talk about this game Hank trying to stall because he doesn't want us to talk about this game. Hank, yeah, you're not worried. I did say on the show on Sunday that, uh, the South could lose one. I won't be worried. And I said, you know what? They could lose two and I wouldn't be worried. Yeah. And it's true. I'm, it's not true. It's not true. It's not. Oh no.

If they had just lost, you know, a couple close games couple battles and the Knicks you know The way they lost has me a little worried. Oh, that's what I that's what I want to say okay. Why yeah specifically uh because they've Missed every single three mm-hmm Jason Tatum. That's not true. I'm a leader They're 25 for a hundred from. And this game, by the way, before you tell us how word you are, all credit to the Knicks, specifically their defense, they stopped, I think it was one for 14, the Celtics finished on and the one was Jason Tatum going for that dunk. They missed 13 straight shots in that 13 straight shots. It was, so it was 84, 68. And then the Knicks stopped them 13 straight times.

And it's pretty bad. It's pretty bad. That was, that was bad. And the Knicks, all credit to the Knicks, they are as gritty as gritty gets. They have won all five of their road games, these playoffs, and they've won them by two points, one point, three points, three points, one point.

So every single game they've won on the road and they've won all of them in these playoffs is three points or less. That's just a tough fucking team. It is a tough team. They don't die and the Celtics go in 15 for 60 in game one. That's 25% from three. And then in game two 2 they went 10 for 40 also 25% this can't it's not gonna last that's the thing

It's right you have a historically bad shooting that everyone's asked me after game 1 what's wrong with Celtics? They're not gonna have that bad of a shooting night again if they shoot 30% they win that game easily The same thing goes for last night like if they shoot 30% They win that game easily if they hit one field goal, or maybe two field goals in the last eight minutes, they probably win that game. They had a lot of open looks. There's nothing, the game plan is, the problem that worries me a little bit is that

there's nothing to fix besides making shots. Like the game plan is the game plan and it's working correctly. They're just, they can't make shots down the stretch. What about Jason Tatum? He is in the fourth quarter of this series. He has six points, one for 11 field goals, 0 for 9, three pointers.

Yeah, he's got a banged up wrist, he's battling through it. You know, he didn't make that layup when we needed it most. Didn't love the look at the end of the game. The one that we, we were about to have a great conversation when we needed it most. Didn't love the look at the end of the game. The one that we were about to have a great conversation with Gilbert Rinas, there was a sequence where the Knicks were storming back. It was an 86-81 game. Three minutes

left. Jason Tatum has a wide open three from the corner, but you'd normally be like, hey, take this three. Al Horford, Jalen Brunson was on Al Horford and he had fallen down and Al Horford was standing under the hoop wide open a simple pass and a dunk Stops the the bleeding a little bit instead Jason Tatum takes the three misses the three or just Tatum just goes to the hoop there He probably scores That was bad. That was bad. It was bad. It was shocking. It was a shocking, shocking turn of events. It was- Because you're up 20 again.

Surely this can't happen again. Surely we're going to hit one shot. And we got looks. We got open looks. That one was kind of a dagger when you just see him fall over and no one was even, it was just him and Al in the basket. Yeah. Came away with zero. You did make a field goal down down the stretch that's when Jason Tatum drove the length of the floor and Where everybody was like wow that was really easy well Yeah, that was I was I was I was on Instagram 11. I was like who's taking this shot No one wants to shoot best play of all time just run down and dunk it like that

Yeah, don't have to worry about shooting, but then yeah on the next possession Tatum didn't want to shoot he tried to pass it the Kailber just stopped it it was it was Again this has been a this iteration of the Celtics Jason Tatum Jalen Brown era This has been somewhat of a common theme where they get a little tight down the stretch and and It doesn't look good. And right now they're in one of those modes. Yeah, and it feels like the Knicks gained strength.

But there's no way it happens again. It feels like, I know you said before, you're not scared of anyone on the Knicks. And Jalen Brunson when they get into clutch time, and also by the way, Mikhail Bridges, incredible fourth quarter, he scored 14 points, he was everywhere on defense. They're just a gritty team.

Yeah. They're a gritty team. Now, while watching this game, Hank, how many times did you think about Jerry O'Connell and what he was maybe, was he like, bing bonging to himself? Did it pop in your head that like, Jerry's having the best time and maybe the 86 Mets thing is correct?

And could you hear the bing bong ringing in your ears? I was happy that I was like on my couch. I was like it's one of those perspective things. Yeah. Where it's like this is traumatic, but at least I'm not getting this fucking. All right. We're doing. Soundboard names.

What is that? Bing bong, bing bong, bing bong, bing bong, bing bong, bing bong, bing bong, bing bong, bing bong, bing bong, bing bong, bing bong, bing bong, bing bong, bing bong, bing bong, bing bong, bing bong, bing bong, bing bong, bing bong, bing bong, bing bong, bing bong, bing bing bong, bing bong, bing bong, bing bong, bing bong, bing bong, bing bong, bing bong, bing bing bong, bing bong, bing bong, bing bong, bing bong, bing bong, bing bong, bing bong, bing bong, bing bong, bing I We're in the broke back My lucky book back Gave it to me Hey everyone, I'd like to introduce to everyone our new puppy. Jalen adorable name Brunson now Brown. I'm inside you. I can't quit you. Well Hank, what do you I mean Jerry's here Jerry's here. Hey I heard your ear popped yesterday. It's two days ago. Yeah. It wasn't your fault Jerry. I had nothing to do with

it. I told you you had a little cold a little head cold. What are you gonna say to Jerry. I'm happy Jerry's enjoying it. It's a fun little ride. He's getting his hopes up and we're gonna go into New York and shut him up. That's fine They deserve to gloat they they won two games that they shouldn't have won and and I got nothing to say congratulations Um hanky, I want you to say there's something special about this next team No, I will not what are you saying? No, I want to hear you say there's some magic there. Jalen Brunt is a good player And you guys are getting very lucky Mmm, you know, what's funny Wednesday when I was on the podcast

You know what I was thinking of? The Giants beating the Patriots You're fucking jets Now I'm just we're inside you Jalen only knows the mix reading the Celtics Where are you right now? Oh my yeah, remember my car was on the show on Wednesday it broke down. Yeah Remember my car was on the show Wednesday it broke down. Yeah He knows what I'm talking about. I hear you. I hear you waiting

Jerry Hank was saying earlier this week that he would not be worried if the Celtics went down to nothing Now that they are down to nothing. He just he confided in us that he was in fact a little bit worried I don't know if you have any words of encouragement or anything like that, but the board needs to be picked up a little bit No, I don't have words of encouragement. As a Knicks fan, being up too well, but I'm worried. The Celtics are awesome. And for some reason, they're not hitting shots. And for some reason at the end of the game,

they're not getting shots off. Keep moving, my boy. That's gotta be so frustrating two games in a row nightmare on hanky street part two. Yes so so do you I mean game three of must win or Um, at the garden, it's going to be electric. I wish I could afford tickets there. If I had just gambled more at, uh, at graph chain sports book, maybe I could have bought a couple of those, but, uh, I'll be watching from a bar in Los Angeles. I hate to give out my location, but here we go. 33 taps. That's Angela. It's in Nick's bar. It's incredible. I love it. Wait, so, so do you, are you scared of the Celtics now?

Or like at all Jerry, like they're, I mean, there, let me tell you, let me tell you something about the New York mentality. Okay. We're always scared of opponents. We come out fighting. We're in a corner. We're hungry. We're going to fight you up until the last thought. Yeah, look at you, Hank. You can come over and look at this big mommy, Jaylen.

It's a cute puppy. Yeah, Jaylen's a's how old is Jalen? You, um, Jalen's only two months old. Oh wow. Wow. I know my wife, my wife was always on next door and it's usually like there's an unhoused person in the room. There's meth dealing going on here. We saw some puppies up next to our Say hi to Jalen Hank. It's a cute puppy. Hank hates dogs. Hank come on The question could go back to you though. Is this a must-winner is that can't lose for the Celtics? Can't lose can't lose. So you're not must winning it going down three nothing that to me You can't go down three nothing which is why we can't lose it.

It's a must win. Now if we lose series is over. Really actually no I think we could still come back from 3. Okay okay. All right so Jerry so you're gonna be at the bar. I don't think I've ever done that against you. Yeah we're gonna have we're gonna have at least six games here right. At bare minimum.

Yeah you might have to come in and stream a game with us. Yeah, I would love it. Listen, I'm not working. I'm just doing like doors. My wife is doing that X-Men movie. So I got time. Isn't a dog guy. Are you a, are you a cat guy? Carly, Anthony Towns. Jerry, can I ask a question not about basketball? Because there was news yesterday that that I don't know why it was reported, but your wife is not going to be nude in the new movie.

What was that report? But I got tagged. I got tagged in a bunch of tweets that just said Rebecca Romaine will not appear nude in Avengers. Well, I mean, like you talking like, oh, I don't know. I don't know. I just I got it. I got tagged out of respect. I didn't. My brain went to quote tweeting being like, fuck you, Jerry. You did this. But I didn't.

And I out of respect, I just ignored it. I'm going to be honest with you. There's so much secrecy around those Marvel movies. My wife didn't even tell me that my wife was going to be in that movie. I found out through you guys congratulating me. Yeah. I was like, are you in the next X-Men movie? My wife was like, yeah, I didn't want to tell you. It's like privileged info. Let me just double check this news here. Rebecca Romaine nude.

Yeah, I got an autocomplete on that. I don't see anything in the actual sergeant. I don't see anything in the actual news about it. All right. Yeah, I guess. I'll pick it up. So, okay, maybe ask her about it, though. Tell her we say hi.

Yeah. Tell her we say hi. Yeah Tell her we say hi and Tell her I mean listen you're you're living your life right now. You're you're Bing Bong and Hank to death He's oh man. He is I would walk in the streets yesterday and everyone was like Got the broke back. How is that? Thank you broke back cat. We're all touching it You should have never given this to me. Thank you. Ever. I'm going to be I can't quit you. Yeah, I can't quit you.

Yeah, Hank. Hank, Hank's down bad. Oh, I got it. Brokeback Mountain. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You finally get it. You finally get it. Finally getting this.

You're finally getting it. Your other your dude. You're finally getting it. other your dude you're finally getting it come on hey hey fight back I got no if I got like a man I can't wait to shut up fucking Jerry and his stupid pint 33 bar chalamet stiller Tracy Morgan actin Bronson the garden's gonna be rocking oh actin Bronson action bra by the way you want to know what the funniest is we're gonna see make them pick the worst week to go on vacation he keeps trying to insert himself on X I'm like the biggest force we could agree on that

yeah I've never seen someone try harder and fall flatter on their face yeah hey Jerry can you give Hank a little for old times's sake. Want to see a dead body? We're not dead. What's going on? What? That's adorable. I'm going to somebody. Some of you throw up. They seem to be saying thing about thing.

There's a cute dog. It's adorable. It's a very cute dog. Oh, thank you. If the Knicks win game three Saturday 1230 Pacific time. 330 Eastern time. You want to go see a dead body. All right. I also got to say because I was I was just in the in the in the lab going through the PMTV us golfing with Jerry and it's Jerry was a delight in it. So it's tough to really know he's the best I hate but I do hate him. Yeah Yelling in my ear like just just just admit you're yelling in my ear like just just just just admit you're yelling in my ear

I gotta go guys. Oh, all right. Good luck with the car. Thank you so much Jerry. You're the best Hank Yeah, Jerry just bring it in your head big yeah, listen, okay Thanks trying to do the math on how he can figure out how to come up on top of the situation I don't think that's you're down to oh it sucks And I don't really care people hate me and everyone loves Jerry I can't fucking stand him when he does that but It is what it is. There's really he he deserves to gloat. I do think the Celtics are gonna win this series easily I

easily Already out what does easily mean you can't be easy for two when you're looking back on the history books for two Is pretty that's easily Is that a whopping? We've put ourselves in a spot where again the one thing that's that is good to know is that we're the better team and Missoula loves these spots like he trains this team all season long to be in these spots where your backs up against the wall There's no room for error Unfortunately, there is no room for error

They have to win they have to win game three And they lose games. I must win to win. They have to win game three They lose game. That's like a must-win to me. Yeah Also like being in game three with a must-win means that it's not easy. Yeah can't be an easy It's not a must-win Hank already sake you can't do both Can't lose will you what's the lead that you'll feel good about at this point none? 40 10 with a minute 10 with a minute. Yeah, but be careful. Yeah. Until next series. If it's the Pacers, then you can't. It feels a lot also. Oh man. I didn't realize Jason Tatum only had 13 points. Yeah. Like the 2020, 2023 heat series too, where those early games were games that the Celtics were winning, felt like they should

have won, and then boom, it's 3-0. And we still almost won that series too, but you just can't, we just got to win on Saturday. You do make a good point though that this is, Missoula's like, this is where he loves to be. He's like a pig in shit right now where it's like, okay, now he really has to tap into that inner psycho that he's got because he loves to do things like when we talked to him about like his house, he's got a nice house. He was like, I kind of wanted to destroy part of it with a sledgehammer so that I could feel like grittier and more inspired. This does feel like obviously

he'd rather be up to nothing than down to nothing. But we're going to see some wild boy shit out of Missoulai. Yeah. Also shout out Mitchell Robinson, even though that one free throw was one of the worst free throws of all time. It was so funny. His rebounding in defense was enormous. And he was the only guy that was plus on their team. Yeah, he was. Well, there was a campaign in Miles McBride where Deuce McBride, but he was plus 19.

Yeah. And it wasn't, does it make you a little even more nervous knowing that that wasn't even a crazy Jalen Brunson game? It was like Josh Hart and kill. But Kale Bridges in the fourth quarter. He didn't hit a shot until the fourth quarter but he hit 14 had 14 points in the fourth quarter like they like you can say the Celtics didn't make their threes again. The Knicks just won a game in Boston with Jalen Brunson only scoring 17 points. Yeah but he hit he hit he had the clutch points. That's why he's a clutch player of the year. He had he kind of you know scored

when they needed them to score in the fourth quarter and then their role players stepped up and he he hit like three very clutch shots. Yeah. Cat was really good. Cat was a beast on the boards. I think if you rank these right, let's finish it with this rank the worrisome that you have with these three guys. Chris stops. Um, I'll give you all three. Chris stops. Jalen Brown, cause it's Chris stops. Whatever the whatever disease he has, he's number one. Uh, Jalen Brown's knee and Jason Tatum just not having or an interest. No, we did Jason James rest rest I would go Chris Alps one pretty pretty significant gap Jason Tatum, Jaylen Brown. Okay, so Jason Jim Brown look good last night. Yeah, what about Derek White? Derek White I have that most confidence and they just have to hit shots like that's that's the thing like there's nothing

I would also just have to hit shots We're getting open shots like we don't have to get better shots and hit them. We just have to what about go to the rim They did go to the rim more last night. They did they took less threes That Jason Tatum shot though was so crazy. Yeah, and they just yeah I feel good. You feel good Yes So you said earlier in this interview that stop's not interview. Well, you know, we're interviewing you we're in rassing you Is it right? You're fair where it's a post interview interview because Jerry O'Connell

We just interviewed him and now we're interviewing you getting your reaction to it earlier in this interview You stated that the Celtics were the better team Losing two games in a row In fact the only two games in the series. How do you justify that statement? How do you square that? Well PFT so the NBA does this thing called a regular season where there's a much bigger Sample size of game and that's more important than the postseason No, but to your to answer your question of how did I come to the conclusion the Selleck's for the better team? They have led more in this series.

They had more regular season wins. So therefore, they are the better team. Just because they lost a couple of games does not change that. And I believe that Vegas, Las Vegas, and Draft King Sportsbook, all the people that decide who is favored in these games in these series agree with me. Well, no, because I think the Knicks are favored to win this series now. I don't think so. They were early this morning, but I think that flip back.

I think I think now it's the Celtics minus one or one 15 at one point the Knicks were minus one 25. So there's a minus one 20 on DraftKings. Next are plus a hundred. So flipped point me. Well, that's also the people flipped it. They released it as Nick's favorite. So the people agree with me. Yeah, the people people but that's not Vegas green the Vegas just reacts with the people looking at it They know but they release it as Nick's minus 125 Like I've said for the last like three four months this Nick's team is built to beat the Celtics I'm so happy you bailed on I know I bailed on it so early After I think it was one game after I put the future I'm like I'm like fuck this there's no chance in hell the next beat the Celtics

Oh, man You're fine Hank Yeah, you're fine. Where are you gonna be watching game game three? I'll be in situ. It's so probably my parents basement Okay, maybe TK's okay. Okay, so you're fine Yeah Okay. Okay. So you're fine. Yeah, it were okay. Wait, are you fine? Are you worried? Are you not worried? I'm you're all over the place. Yeah. You're giving us the body language and your face. Pressure is a privilege. Pressure is a privilege. Uh, and, and Brooks always, as Brooks said, it's like when you're worried, that just means, uh, you know, there's pressure

and pressure is a good thing. So it's, I'm happy to feel the pressure, but I do feel it I do feel it it is Jerry also did bring up a good point like what a week for max to miss because if the Celtics Come back and win this series He just didn't get to have any of the fun that you know He wants to and he's just trying to he's trying to do it from afar and it's just like oh man This is what he lives to do is like the one time that he can really take a big shit right on Hank's head And he just can't do it and he can't too far away to shit Yeah, the time zone. The shitting on Hank doesn't work when you're recording a video and posting it live and

The time is noticeably different. Yeah, like it's the middle of the day and you're already moved on to the nighttime Yeah, okay it's the middle of the day and you're already moved on to the night time. Yeah. Okay. Uh, Nuggets Thunder, the Thunder. Now they did what I think everyone expected the calves to do in game two and what the Celtics do in game two scheduled when they absolutely demolish. I, so I actually like, I've been very low on sleep because we were traveling Monday and you know, kidney, kidney, so whatever. So I in the, at halftime, I was like, you know what? I think I'm okay. I think I'm going to go to sleep. And then I woke up at like one in the morning in like a nervous sweat

being like, what if the, what if the nuggets had come back and won this game? Yeah, they never really got that close. They never, I was happy with my decision. And it was, it was the 87 in the first half from the thunder. Yeah. I think an NBA playoff record. It was crazy. They hit every single shot. They shot 44% from three, 56% from the field. Everyone scored. I mean, if you look at it, I think they played all 15 guys. They were just emptying the bench,

meaning big minutes. And the Thunder, yeah, this was their schedule. They won one in OKC. Now you've got to regroup go back I still think it's gonna be a very good series But this was the thunder we all expected as the one seed as a 68 team win They they flex their muscles and they're like, yeah, we actually are still these guys Did you see what TNT did on the broadcast last night? No, so this was in the second half

Before the game was over they changed the graphic to to 1-1 like the graphic that's on the screen that says what the score of the series is overall not like you know cutting away to a graphic and being like okay series tied 1-1 going back on screen before the game I think there were about two or three minutes left in the game which is crazy to do right but at this point like nobody can even argue with that right if they had done that up 10 points, even 20 points with three minutes left, you're like, what the fuck?

But the game was like, I think a 40 point lead at that point. And they're like, okay, we've literally never done this, but if there's a time to do it, it's now. Let's put it up there. I had it in the back of my head where I was like, I'm gonna go to sleep, but knowing how these playoffs have gone, this could be a huge mistake.

But yeah, it was never even close. I was safe. I needed to sleep too, so it felt good. But I did, it was my content brain woke me up out of a dead sleep at 1 a.m. And I was like, because I think my last tweet was literally at halftime being like, scheduled loss for the Nuggets.

This is what I expected out of the other one seeds and two seeds. So if you're the Nugget, I would be not feeling, I'd be feeling as bad about a one-one series tie as possible after this game. Yeah. The way that it went.

Yeah, because the Thunder game won as much as it was an insane comeback for the Nuggets. It really, I felt like more of a choke for the Thunder and the way they managed the timeouts and the fouls and all that stuff and missing free throws So yeah, I'd agree. I think the nuggets got to be a little scared going going back I think the Thunder is up in the series one-to-one. Yes, I'd agree Hank. You agree You're still just sure. Yeah, Hank still has no comp. Hey do something that brings you joy today

like Go play some golf Can't why not traveling? I'm traveling. Were you shocked by Jerry being back on? No, I knew it was gonna happen. But you said at the time, you were like, oh, we're doing this again. Yeah, I mean. Well, I mean, he's at 86 Metz.

They're up to nothing. He's been waiting for this moment for over a year. He was bing bonging you when it wasn't even the Knicks. I know. I hit... What? What happened? He was being bonging you when it wasn't even the Knicks. I know I I What? So I hate I hate it, but whatever it is what it is I

You don't want to be the guy that's just hating on the thing that everyone else loves But I hate it you hate you hate Jerry is what you're trying to say is you I hate Jerry O'Connell hearing Jerry O'Connell when we're when we were hanging out at the Beck Gala off-camera Great when we were golfing great His man in the arena stick. That's not a stick. He's bing bonging. I hate it. He's big Just deal with it Hank. You're up. Listen if you were up to nothing, then you wouldn't think I would not be doing that I would not be gloating in his face screaming in his ear. That is true Yeah, but you're also not mr. Bing-bong, right and the you also he's not mr. Bing-bong. Yes We know yeah, the real Bing-bong guy was like I want to meet shout out him

He wants to meet Jerry O'Connell is like I'll try to get that said he said that yeah, he DM me today He was just like I love this. I love Jerry and his Bing-bong. He's probably that's probably like a long contest to serve him There was a no he's he just said he hit me up he just said bro I gotta meet this guy from Barstool who loves Bing Bong. Guy cracks me up. That's from Bing Bong guy himself. And he's way more of Mr. Bing Bong than you are. No shit. Jerry is. I'm not a bit stealer. So yeah let's. Let's go Hank. Yeah T Hank oh The Celtics are a scrappy little team that Kevin Harlan literally said that yeah the end of the game Celtics are so scrappy They are scrappy like good for them. They competed hard. They almost won both those games. We're gonna listen

We're gonna be fine by the time we're talking on Tuesday Fine, but by the time we're talking on Tuesday We got to the show on Sunday night well that'll just be we still be it will be halfway there Okay, I saw a little a little glint of joy in your eye because Jerry's been bringing up all the old New York stuff When you thought about the Red Sox Yankees Yeah, I was down. Oh now you've not gonna get to to that point, but you did that it that I did file that away You you like perked up another I would be shocked. I hope they go down. Oh three so they come back No, I feel like this is a seven game series

Yeah, probably I mean I don't know the cells will make shots eventually I just yeah, I maybe they won't dope FD That would be great. Oh, that would be crazy. What if they just don't What they literally just don't make shots they will but what if they don't they will okay? So who's the most important player on Saturday? Jason Tatum yeah Yeah, by the way, uh, the portioning this thing is also crazy. Yes. So yeah, what's very what's going on? He sat out like a handful of games in March with an illness undisclosed and then he

Sat out a couple games last playoffs that was out For most of game one with the same illness. Mm-hmm But it's not disclosed and it's like there's such a big gap between the two How like what could it be that it's still lingering? And why won't they disclose it? It's very strange and worrisome. Are there rumors? No HIPAA no HIPAA violations. I've heard rumors, but I'm not going to do HIPAA. Yeah, me neither. Have you heard rumors? No, I've heard rumors, but I'm not gonna do HIPAA. Okay. Do you want to bleep out the rumor I heard? Yeah, bleep it out, okay, I

Yeah, I've heard that as well that's the rumor that I've heard mm-hmm not good no cuz that I don't know how you fix that Yeah, it might be like a stamina or like yeah. Yeah, he just doesn't have the juice. I don't know. I don't know man I don't know man Okay, by the way the we already knew it but Juan didn't put on the shirt and now he's flexing about how he's undefeated in the shirt that he did wear I hate this guy like this guy I really again I don't like the dark t-shirt I think they're gonna switch it up though you I think next game game five is gonna definitely be something different I think it's probably too late to switch it up after game one into game two they probably had the t-shirt right

like they had you got to order that shit well in advance. But if you really want that, and also they did win by like, 43 points. Yeah. But just from a visual, from an aesthetic, I think the ratings would have been higher if they were wearing brightly colored shirts in the second half.

I'd agree, I'd agree. Big Cat, you would not have gone to sleep. I would have been so wired, that I couldn't have gone to sleep. Yep. Isn't it like the best feeling though, when you? I'm going to go to sleep early. Yes. You make the you make the decision of like I do need sleep but I like most of the time I'm like I'm staying through it but I was like you know what this game is over. Yeah. And I didn't I didn't

miss it. And there's no worse feeling than the op. Oh the worst. I went to bed the other week and I was like this episode of last of us is going to be exactly like the other three beforehand. That was a nightmare to wake up from. All right, let's get to our interview with Gilbert Arenas. Okay, before we get to Gilbert Arenas, Truly, Truly Unruly Lemonade combines the high-alch fun of Truly Unruly with everyone's favorite, lemonade.

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about the documentary. We want to talk about the NBA playoffs, some of your career. But before we do that, we were going to have you on last week. I think it was two weeks ago. And then your son obviously got in that car accident. Is he doing okay? Because that was obviously really, really scary, I'm sure for you, but I hope that he's doing a lot better. Yeah, he's doing a lot better. Yeah, yeah, he's doing a lot better. Yeah, I mean, it was a scary moment. It's teenage kids when they get these cars, you kind of get worried about them sometimes.

4 a.m., it was at five. It was about 5 a.m., he's coming back from working out before he went to school, and he said the car computer just malfunctioned and then ran and ran into a fire hydrant and tree. Damn scary. Yeah. So and he's playing ball at USC next year, right? Yeah. He's going to USC next year and you know, UCLA saved his life. So that's going to be interesting, right? Yeah. We're big muscleman guys. So he's been a friend of ours for a long time. So he'll, he'll be in good hands.

So, uh, the, the new documentary out on Netflix, like I said, untold stories, uh, shooting guards, let me ask you this, how, like this felt like this was a long time in the making. It's obviously centered around you and Javar Krinen and the incident in the locker room. How do you feel like it came out? How the story was told after you watched it? This is pretty accurate to what happened or do you think they kind of missed some things? When it comes to in the making, it actually wasn't that long. I really didn't care two shits about it.

And, you know, when I heard your virus is coming out, because because he was in and it was 23 years, it was like, you know, I'm not going to tell a one sided story, you know, both parties need to be there. So, you know, it was put on the back burner. When it comes to the details of the story itself, the locker room, it was pretty accurate. You know, that's why I was joking so much during the time it happened. Like, it was a typical day.

I mean, you know, I know the guns, but it was a typical day in the locker room, a wizard's locker room. But I was intrigued on, you know, what happened to him after. Because, you know, sometimes on, you know, what happened to him after. Because you know, sometimes when you know, situations like that happen, you go down two paths, right? You can, you know, hide from the world or you can be, you know, Superman.

Yeah. And you guys, at the end of the documentary, it showed that you guys are still in touch to this day. Did you, did you reach back out to him when he got out of prison or have you guys been in touch over the last couple of decades? Is that something that you guys went your separate ways and then you decided to come back and say, Hey, check in on them? Or is that more recent? I mean, even after like, you know, this wasn't an enemy. This is, was one of the closest guys on a team with me, right? Every time we was on a road trip,

he had come to my room, order food, right? And we just chop it up and, you know, just talk about life and basketball and training. So, you know, he was the closest guy to me besides like Nick Young. So, you know, our beef mostly came because I didn't like the way he was talking to our teammates, right?

Why he was losing money. So that's really how it started. So like even right after once I realized, man, you know, if we do if the NBA do call us, I'll just take all the blame. So, you know, they didn't use the text message where I text them. I think it was like December 21st, 2009, like, yo, if the NBA comes in, just blame me. You didn't have no gun.

I'll take full responsibility for this. And then when his mom got, I think she needed a surgery. Everybody kind of turned it back on him. I'm the one who helped pay for it. So I've been there the whole time, the whole time, you know, we were probably like a year without talking because he was mad at me because something I probably text on Instagram joking around.

But I bought all of his cell phones that got him put in a hole right for the last, you know, eight years. You know, I was supplying him his cell phones. So what are the more interesting parts of this documentary? And I was a fan of these Wizards team. So I remember watching it, how fun you were. You guys were kind of out of control sometimes, but it was a fun team to watch.

There was no mention of Deshaun Stevenson in the documentary. And I feel like his playoff battles against LeBron where he would just openly battles against LeBron where he would just openly antagonize LeBron going into the games, that was so fun. I know that you guys had some rivalries, some bets. I know you competed in a three point shootout against Deshaun, right? And what were the rules of that

and how much money was on the line? The rules were, I will shoot one hit. It wasn't even a rule. It was just one of those things that so it started with Roger Mason. So for some reason they had this idea that Roger Mason was a better college high school three-point shooter than me because they felt that oh you only shoot threes. Oh, today's basketball threes and layups. Right. So I said, what are you talking about? I bet 20 grand. I will beat him. I'll blow him out. Right. So we was in Boston, went to a gym, beat him. And then while I was bragging, Deshaun Stevenson started talking. So I said, bro, I'll beat you with one

hand. I'll bet you with one hand. I'll bet you 20 that. And then other people took that bet on his side, which was weird. Um. Yeah. So we bet 20 and I beat him with the one hand. I didn't take the money though.

Yeah, I think the stat line that came out of that, you went 73 for 100 from three, flat footed with one hand. And then. 76, 76, it was she and me three. Yeah. And then you ran it back against Nick Young and you brought a hundred grand in cash and a duffel bag into the gym, right? Yes. Oh yeah, that was a few years later that I was here in Los Angeles.

Yeah. He didn't show up. I think I went 90, probably went 95, 96 from't show up. I think I went 90 probably went 95 96 from three Jesus so that's like I when whenever the debate comes out about like NFL players playing in the NBA NBA players playing in the NFL Obviously everyone has their side, but I do think that like the regular world doesn't understand just how good NBA players are at shooting like in an open gym you guys just don't miss like would you just when you were practicing we just go 100 in a row like not even thinking about it because if you've ever seen it even the guy on the end of the bench can just make every shot when they're in an open gym. it's literally everyone is a great shooter. Yeah. You know, it's practice shooting.

You're in your own comfortable environment. You probably got earphones on, right? The gym is smaller, so it's not this wide open space. What happens is some people can't translate the crowd, the atmosphere, the bigger arena. They don't know how to gauge the distance. And, you know, as much as I shot in a practice gym, I shot in the NBA gym also. So like a night before games, I'll have them put the floor down in the one rim up and I'll sit

there and shoot thousands of shots. Yeah. Do you, uh, do you think about like the way the NBA and basketball, both college and NBA have gone? Do you feel like, uh, man, and basketball, both college and NBA have gone, do you feel like, man, I missed my era a little bit because it is just threes and layups. A lot of these teams are doing the analytical thing where like, I know you shot a lot of threes during your career, but I bet you,

if you were playing in the NBA right now, the coach would tell you to shoot even more threes. Yeah, you know, listen, it's, I love this generation. I love the era. The star players are doing what star players do, right? The Yokes, the Shays, the Brunsons, right? The star players have a, they just have a different game. What analytics has done has taken players

that shouldn't touch the ball, right players that shouldn't touch the ball, right that shouldn't shoot the ball. This freedom of shot, right? Right. Where you have your fourth or fifth best player on the court allowed to shoot four or five threes, right? Like we have to get this total of 53 and then you started looking around like, okay If I'm Tatum, okay, I got eight of them Brown. You got eight Hey coach, we need about 40 something more. Where we gonna get him from right there white raising his hand like wait Wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on guy. You got paid for defense play defense, right? You're not gonna be chucking 10 threes up and that's what ended up happening in this new analytic where they're trying to feel all these three point quotas and you guys are not three point shooters. Right. Right. So, so speaking of that series and I know you, you, you watch ball every

night. Uh, it's stunning that the Knicks are up to Oh, in this series. Uh, what, like, what do you, like, what do you take from those first two games? Because like part of me says like oh the Celtics are going to eventually make some threes but also it does feel like the game gets close late and Jalen Brunson is that type of dog and like almost like the Knicks are in their comfort zone when they're behind and they come back and they put the pressure on the Celtics and cells have completely like piss down their leg late in these games. It's crazy to watch. Yeah. Every time I've watched him lose, it's the same model. They're going 10 for 60, 15

for 45. It's not very great shooting percentage from the three point line. It's like these guys are living and dying by a three pointer. Yeah, you're gonna go up 20, but you get caught easily. Right, it's not like you're, you know, you're going up by 20 and then now beating them to the basket and you know, getting this free throw. Like it's threes or layups. And right now they're just living on threes.

And I said it last year, I said that kiddies heels is if they have these horrible shooting nights from the three point line, they don't actually take enough twos right to, you know, to, to, to cushion that. And you play, you know, I argued if you play a team like Yanis, Yanis plays old school basketball, he's going to get you in foul trouble. He's trying to make layups. He's going to, they're going to beat you. Right. You play against Brunson. Brunson plays old school basketball. He's going to get you in foul trouble. He's trying to make layups. He's going to, they're going to beat you. Right. You play against Brunson. Brunson plays old school basketball.

He's going to layups mid ranges, try to get you in foul trouble. He's a foul baiter. And then last five minutes, he's the closest thing we have to Mamba mentality. The real Mamba mentality, like, you know, from 96 to before he passed, not after he passed and it became, you know,

a watered-down version of what mama mentality was. The mama mentality, this selfish thing no one liked, that killer mentality that wants to take over the world, that's what Brunson has in the last five minutes. Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's been crazy watching this series, and I don't know what the Celtics are gonna do to adjust because it seems like they've just tried to shoot their way out of

having bad shooting nights and maybe maybe something happens when they go to a different arena I don't know but the old saying is like the role players play better at home but the Knicks role players have been playing pretty good on the road right now so I don't know if you were coaching the Celtics do you just say listen we got to stick with what got us all these wins with what got us a championship last year or do we need to tweak something because what we're doing right now, it's not working. Last year is last year and you know, we have a new year playing against a new enemy and

this enemy has came back twice while we were up 20. Yeah, we're up 20, but we're losing at the end. So we're doing something wrong and be personally as a coach I've watched us lose and how we've lost and some For some reason you guys don't realize that we've missed five or six threes in a row One of you guys go make a layup right the beginning of the game first person to shoot a fucking three out I'm subbing you out fucking three out. I'm subbing you out.

I'm going to get you. I don't care who it is at this point because I need I need to reverse engineer what they're doing because obviously they're closing out on a three. They're playing for the three Jason Tatum. They next went up Jason Tatum literally inbound the ball got it back in full core layup. Yeah. That like that's how easy it's been. You just go to the basket.

Yeah. Yeah. Remember you remember the hardest team? That that people don't. No one really paid attention to was the second year or LeBron's first championship with Miami. When him and D Wade said, yo, we're not shooting threes this year. Yeah. And did you see how hard they regard? Because when LeBron drove, D Wade dived, they was doing this double lob type of play

They was doing this double lob type of play and nobody was ready for two guys with 40 inch verticals, slashing and dunking. That team was really hard to guard. And that was the best LeBron. And you know, they put it in their minds, we're not going to be sitting here chucking threes and bailing the other team out. Like you guys are you guys, Jalen and Tatum is the most athletic dudes on the court and you're doing his side step threes at six, nine and six 10. Yeah. That's ridiculous. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I, I thought like the, the craziest possession in the whole game was when the Knicks were coming back and there

was that possession where a Horford was under the basket and Brunson had fallen down and Tatum had the ball in the corner, shooting a three with like three minutes left. All they gotta do is get a bucket to stop the Knicks like, and he takes the three and yes, it's a wide open three, but he also had a wide open Al Horford standing under the hoop and it's like, just get the bucket, just get two points or get fouled

just to stop what the Knicks are doing Yeah, I just don't understand who's doing the math Yeah on the analytics like who is actually math in the analytics you're shooting 63s You have a hundred and five points. Yeah I don't know how that's math thing for you guys, but that is horrible Yeah And now obviously, you know, game three could happen and the Celtics could shoot 50% from three and win by 30. And we'd look stupid. But that's you kind of you're playing on the razor's edge where it's like if you get cold for a few games, you're out.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you're one of those games. You're right. They're going to shoot 45 to 50 percent from the three point line. You're going to win by 30 In a seven game series, that's a one gamer. Yeah. Yeah In a one-a-half. Yeah, you better hope it happens in the second half not the first half. Yeah, like it's been doing Yeah, what about so we talked about it? The Pacers have been incredible in these playoffs are up to on the Cavs The thing that strikes me is like similar to the Knicks where in these fourth quarters, they've two out of last three games they've come back from seven down under a minute. Is there, is it as simple as like

they are better conditions than the teams they're playing and it feels like they still have gas in the tank at the end of games, whereas the opponent just kind of runs out of gas and it's like maybe it's because they play at such a high pace But it does feel like when they get to the fourth quarter The other team's got hands on hips and hands on knees and they're just still running and going right at you I mean when you're talking about the Pacers the Pacers is no different than like the Phoenix Suns was right Their style is running and trying to run you out of building New Jersey nets Oh one oh two or two thousand two, 2001 when Jason K got there, right there, their condition.

But when you're talking about like somebody like Donovan Mitchell, he's conditioned to do what he does. What happens with some of these comebacks? And when you're talking about Indiana versus Cleveland, when you have this free-for-all, everyone gets to touch and shoot the ball, the last five minutes is your star's game. Right? The first 43 is team play, right? The Bulls, we got the triangle.

Last five minutes is Michael Jordan, right? We've watched it. If you look at how the game is being played now, Cleveland Cavaliers last five minutes, team basketball. Everyone gets to touch it. We all did it. You know, this is a team project. And what happens is some of those guys who are not built for the moment don't realize score time and possession. Everyone's not smart. Everyone's not fucking quarterback On the field you do got some dumb bots out there that that's playing and they will they've done missed over for they don't know time and possession they don't realize there's a

13-0 run and he wants to shoot a three because he's open you're open for a reason, right? Because they know you're you're dumb enough to shoot that shot and they do for the most part. Now when you look at the Knicks, there's only one person getting the ball last five minutes and he's gonna dictate every possession. Same with Indiana. Tyrese is gonna dictate every possession. Now Cleveland, Garland being out kind of hurts them because now Donovan has to play the point

and the shooting guard when he's just better at being the shooting guard and let Garland actually figure out the great plays that he needs to make when you don't score. Yeah. So how would you work that out? I assume that you would, you've played on some teams where, uh, where somebody else thought that there were the man at the end of the game. And I know that you probably always knew that you were the man at the end of the game. And I know that you probably always knew that you were the man at the end of the game

that was gonna need the ball. When it comes to somebody that thinks that they're the guy but they're not, how would you go about letting him know, hey, fuck you, I'm the man, give me the ball, stop taking those shots? That's usually already established in practice training camp, you know, one-on-ones after practice, right?

We've done already established who gets the ball at the end of the game. The only person that can offset that is the coach. When coach and analytics say, hey, everybody gets to touch, we're all equal here. This is a team sport. That's the only thing that goes into play when you're talking about who takes these last shots.

But like Brunson, he didn't just get to New York and everybody was like, hey, you take all the last shots. No, he's earned that through battling them every day in practice, them in training camp, and hitting big shots throughout the beginning of the season. And he's like, yeah, that's the guy right there.

Yeah. So looking out West, I got to bring up an old take of yours. You said Jokic was the worst MVP to ever win the award. If SGA wins it this year, is he worse than Jokic was? Or how does that work out? Who would then be the number one worst? Okay. It was more click baitish, right? I'm very good at word play.

So I said he will be the worst. So if he wins the next one, he'll be the worst three time MVP in the last 40 years. Right? Because it was like, so I looked at the, so basically when I said, and you say Yokech, MVP and worse, everybody forgets anything else you're saying. Right? They're already offended. So I added three. So there's only five people that's, that's our three time

MVP's. Those five were in that timeframe is Magic, Bird, Jordan, LeBron, and Jokic. At that time, he's going to rank fifth, right? Instead of saying five, I say worst. Right. It just sounds better for headlines, right? That's smart. That was more of it just trying to corral it. Yeah. Well, what if he becomes the worst four-time MVP?

I don't think anybody's been the worst three-time and the worst four-time MVP Oh four time. I mean, it's LeBron and will LeBron will I think MJ MJ MJ will but in my time frame. Yes, he would it be the worst because it'd be like LeBron MJ and Kareem and Kareem. So what does he have? So I guess, is Jokic better than Bill Russell?

Yeah. Okay, so Jokic has to win five MVPs then. I mean, okay listen. Because then he wouldn't be the worst five time MVP because I think five and up is just Jordan, Bill Russell, and Kareem. Yeah, you know, it's just depending on your time frame. He would be the second worst five time MVP. If you use all of NBA, if you narrow it down,

it depends on how you want to do it these days. So if he wins, if he wins five, he'd be not the worst five time MVP. If he wins six, he'd be back to the worst. Cause you'd have Kareem over. And then if he wins seven, he'd be, he'd stay the worst. He'd be the best and worst seven time MVP. Like when you, when you're talking about MVP and when you're talking about like these debates, right? For some reason, everybody wants to use the team award first. You want to use uh, championships when it's actually the opposite. When you're talking about someone's personal legacy, it goes off of how dominant was he individually. And then team stuff is later on.

So when you do a point system on, if you look at the top 10, you will realize them championships is irrelevant when it comes to your individual awards. Scottie Pippen has six, right? Yeah. There's guys who don't have rings in front of him on the all-time your individual awards. Scottie Pippen has six, right? Yeah. There's guys who don't have rings in front of him on the all time list.

Oh yeah, yeah. You got Karl Malone in front of him, you got John Stockton, you got people who don't even have one in front of him because his six is not valued like Michael Jordan's six. But if you take away Michael Jordan's rings, he has 10 scoring titles.

He has six NVPs. He has defensive war. It shows his personal dominance. Yokish personal dominance. When he's done, you have to argue he's top one to best centers ever. Yes. The only person who you remove rings. The only person who is going to be standing tall over him is Kareem. Yeah. What about Shaq? Cause you can always say like Shaq is, Shaq is maybe the most dominant. Yeah. And when you use the word dominant, you gotta say like what kind of

dominant are we talking about? Are we talking about breaking rim dominant and just brute force dominant and we're scared of you dominant or just sheer I'm out here just manipulating the game, taking over dominance, right? When you hear Shaq say dominance, I'm like, yeah, because I know how that looks, right? You're breaking rims, pushing people like, yeah, because I know how that looks right you breaking rims pushing people down Right, you know there has to be a 40 minute timeout because they got to get a new rim in from Best Buy I get that right but what your kids is doing and how he dominates is Dominate also. Yeah, I think what he's the one guy that with that the ring conversation is fair. It's it's like The the team that he has around him and don't get me wrong

I don't think that the nuggets have a bad team around but he doesn't have like a genuine top tier superstar I think the stat was he's never played with an all-star on the nuggets, right? Yeah, so but when he wins when he's able to take his team to a championship He's literally making everybody on that floor You know two times better than what they could be And he's the main reason why they get that rank. So with him, I actually do think it's fair to be like, yeah, he won a championship over some of these other great teams. Like, yeah, him, him winning a championship and Yannis winning a championship

with the teams they had. I mean, it is like, wow, that's, you, you, you guys are, you guys are way better than, you know, you get credit for. Like we've watched Denver. We see we like, OK, Murray, you you should have won an all star. You should have made an all star. Like you're that you're that player just for some reason. Voters win against you. So you are that guy. The rest. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I don't know if Michael Porter

Jr. I don't know how many teams he was starred on. Christian Brown. I don't know how many other teams you actually start on. I'm pretty sure Gordon can get away with, you know, he can beat another four man out depending on what team he's on to start. So, you know, three of their starters, you're like, Russ, Russ triple double guy, MVP, MVP. You know, the Russ that we love to hate, at this point you're like, you know what? I don't know a Russ I'm gonna get today, but we're gonna watch and just do one of these

and you know, see how it works out for us. But you know, Russell's one of those guys where I know Yoke is just going to love them. And I knew the coach is going to love them because he does something you just can't teach. And that's just go hard. Right. Yeah. All the time. All the time. Go hard. Just, Hey, go hard. And you're like, all right, I can do, I can do that. Yeah. And that's what he does all the time. You mentioned clickbait. Do you have anything to say for getting got on the fake Charles Barkley quote, which was very funny You were you were dressed as a clown on your podcast and then you had a whole discussion about Charles but the fake quote was basically Charles Barkley said if LeBron and the Lakers lose this series against, Minnesota

I don't want to hear about LeBron being a top five all time player. He never said that. No, I'm pretty sure Charles Barkley. I think you got, which by the way, we live on the internet. We get got all the time. It's just part of the game. So, um, wait, you didn't know that that was, I don't think that was a real quote. No, I didn't know. I mean, but it's still Charles Barkley. So yeah. Yeah, that's true. About the way it's an algebra about the window again. Yeah. You went in on them. You said to you, what were you doing when you were 40? You were fat in Houston, complaining about trying to get on the treadmill and stuff. No, I'm just going off of that's real though. That's what happened. Right? Like I was a big Charles Barkley fan. I was the guy that wore the sons, you know, back then we, you know, in the black

community, you know, we used to put words and, you know, logos in our head for some reason. And I had Phoenix sons where I can go back and forth up and down and it still spells sons. So I was a big Barclay fan. So I remember his career. Yeah. So listening to him now talking about, you know, you know, going at Kevin Durant, you're not a leader. And then, oh, you guys are just quitting and you guys are not out of shape. And you guys don't play defense. I'm like, wait a minute. Do you not remember who you were when you played? You're talking as if you're not Charles Barkley, I'm not a role model. Like what are we doing here?

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They got me But because this Charles I can't yeah, right yeah, that's one of those situations where you got got, but you're also like, it totally could be true. Yeah. This is my thing. I'm a LeBron fan, but I'm a LeBron fan because of the greatness that I see. Like Michael Jordan, LeBron James, Kobe Bryant, Magic. I love just pure greatness.

It intrigues me, right? So when I see, I was in the league when LeBron came. I know what they said. I see what they said when they turned on him. I've had to do scouting reports in the playoffs against this kid. When he was a kid, watching him now, I'm like, yeah, he is that dude has been that

dude from the beginning listening to the narratives that's been said about a guy who if I said, all right, name one year one full year, he disappointed you as a fan. You're not going to be able to name one full year. You can aim a series a couple games here and there, but when you're talking about, did he give you your money's worth? You have to say yes for 22 years. When you sit here, compare his 20, 20th year, 21st year, 22nd year to a young Kobe's career or Michael Jordan in this prime. It's like, wait a minute. You didn't even put Michael Jordan wizard years to Michael Jordan

Bulls years. You just let the wizard Michael Jordan just run around the league, smoking cigars, drinking before games, having fun. That's what 40 year old men did. Right? We're just happy to see a junk Jordan out there running around giving people 20. That was amazing. That's a valid point because Michael Jordan's Wizards years, it was like a sideshow. We knew at the time, this doesn't really count.

This isn't really Michael Jordan. If LeBron did the shit that Jordan did Later on in his career. We would be making fun. We wouldn't be glazing like you are today. Yeah Is that what you call yourself? Oh, I'm a glaze. Oh now, you know I'm a Laker glazer and now I'm a Luca glazer. Oh, you are do you think he's out of shape? No, what? What? What? 33 nine and nine. Okay. But do you think he's out of shape? I'm not saying that Lucas not incredible. I'm saying Luca could be in better shape in better shape. Yes. Okay. The notion of saying,

okay, let's just try this way. Let's say you guarded him and he gave you 71. Are you really gonna just use the phrase he's out of shape and he just gave you 71? No, he's gonna be in the best shape of his life if he put those type of numbers on you. When you're saying someone's out of shape and then you look at 37 and seven, it kind of makes the people who are in shape not look too good. Like if

you're Anthony Edwards and you're in shape and then the fat man over here led the series and scoring and assist. Yeah. I don't know if I'm sitting here at the podium. Like, yeah. Okay. Okay. But counterpoint, I think Luca is, I love watching Luca play basketball. I think he's the top five player. He's so much fun. He's so skilled offensively. Do you not think that there's like, Hey man, you're 26. You could probably get into the best shape of your life and take it to that next level where it's like you are truly unstoppable now. Yeah, he's in okay. Him,okic, right? I even remember Carmelo. He is in Lucas shape, right? Right. He's in a shape that he knows that he's in.

That's just like a lot of NBA players, right? You think what you're doing is, yeah, I'm in shape until you go to a team where someone does something more than you. Right. So in Dallas, what he did something more than you. Right. So in Dallas, what he did is all he knows, right? There's never been, I've never seen anybody on that team that I said, okay, that's a different condition guy, right? If he played with a Rip Hamilton,

if he played with a Westbrook, now he's with a LeBron, right? With a Steve Nash, guys who do that extra cardio, who really actually get to that top tier level of in shape. He's never played with that guy to even know what that looks like. Right. And sometimes we, we can go our whole career and don't know there's these extra levels unless you're in a locker room with Colby. You don't know there's an extra levels. Unless you're in a locker room with Kobe, you don't

know there's an extra level to working out. Right. Yeah. Did you ever have a guy in one of your locker rooms where you're like, Oh shit, like, I know I'm the best player on the team, but he, what he's doing. Oh, you were that guy for everyone else. That guy. Okay. I, I didn't come in as that guy, right? Um, you know, we have practice at 11 o'clock. Our team as a whole unit got there, 10.45. We had some players that got there at 11.45, right? They had to golf first, right? So they had to play their golf and then come to practice.

So that's what I was looking at. And then Chris Mullen basically taught me how to work out. Added that with Mark Jackson. And then when I started hearing Kobe's stories of Kobe, when Luke Walton got there and he said, yo, if you think you work out cold three times a day, this is how they do it on game day. He's there at three o'clock. I'm like, bullshit.

He's not there at three o'clock. And I said, when we come to L'clock. I'm like, bullshit. He's not there at three o'clock. And I said, when we come to L.A., I'm going to go to the Staples Center and I'm going to be there at three o'clock to see if he's there. Three o'clock, he was there. And what I seen was incredible. He was doing elbow shots, five hundred makes.

The intensity of it was insane. elbow shots, 500 makes. The intensity of it was insane, right? Like he's doing a pump fake shot. The trainer had to be like, he had to jump and foul him and give him the contact full, full playoff game seven mode before the game. And when I seen it with my own eyes, it clicked in. And that's why my game really improved

because I witnessed something that I didn't see the first part of my first year in the NBA. And now I see like what the next level look like. And I, every trip we went to LA, I was at the gym at three o'clock to watch Cone. Yeah. I also think the Lakers yellow doesn't really flatter Luca as much.

It's not a great fat color. When you see him put it on, it looks like a big punch. I think it'd actually be funnier if he got fatter. If Luca got like real fat and he could still, he could still, he could still, you know, give you 30 on offense. That would be awesome. Watching like escalate out there. Just bearing shots in your face. Like I think it's this fine balance. The same thing with Jokic.

The weight helps them in their style of play, right? They need their body with the contact, right? They're very great reactors. And sometimes they need to carry a little bit more weight, right, to do a lot of things that they do, hold people off. I looked at Luca's rookie year. You know, that's gonna be, you know what I mean? That's gonna be the skinniest version of him. And I'm like, yeah, we can use this one. Yeah, yeah, this extra burst Luca that

can actually dunk in he's a lot faster. That is the Luca we need. So, you know, if he's sitting at about, I can gauge it. He's all of six and I have you seen him in person? I have seen him in person in the fact that I've watched him like live, but I've never like been in the same room with him. Yeah. Like he's all of about six, nine and a half, right? He's a big human being and he's probably sitting at about 260. If Luca can get down to about 230, 225,

I really believe he's gonna be MVP next year. Yeah, I'd agree. By the way, you have, so we're, we love on our podcast, we love dumb ideas. You have dumb ideas too. I saw one of the dumbest ideas that I kind of like, but I want you to explain it even more. You had the idea of make it, take it in the playoffs that you start the series and if the home team wins, they just keep getting home court advantage as long as they keep winning. Why? Why? Why? Why this idea? Like it, it does seem the best ideas are the ones that like your knee jerk reaction is that stupid. And then you think about it more and you're like, Oh shit, that would be kind of fun. So how did you come up with this idea? Like I'm thinking about like, when you're talking about two games here, two games at one,

one, one, you know, you're just, you know, looking at the back and forth. And it's like, like if we were playing just one on one, and that's what a series is, is one verse one. Why am I giving you the ball? Like you have to earn this, right? So I'm not giving up home court advantage until you beat me. Right? Like you take it from me and then we can go down to your hometown and we got to take it back from you.

But, you know, obviously this is a business and it has to be, you know, we got to go to your building so your fan base can, can win some, you know, some, uh, I guess so you can pay your bills in a sense. Right. Right. Right. Yeah. It just comes straight to hoops Right? Yeah. Right. All right. Yeah. Just come straight to hoops. Want to go to your home. Yeah, I mean, I do. I would be intriguing because like if you win game one on the road, it's like, all right, we're going back home right away. That's pretty

sick. How do you, what do you think about? I have a dumb idea. I actually pitched this to Adam Silver. I don't know if he's going to take it, but uh, I have a dumb idea that every player should get one fight, a fan a year where you can call out a fan and then they fight it in the middle of the court. And like, there's no laws. Like if you beat the fuck out of the fan, you don't get arrested or anything that would stop fans from mouthing off all the time. No, it has stopped those fans from mouthing out. Then you're going to have them MMA guys. Yeah. You get to decide. You get like, you see a cauliflower here.

You're not calling them out. Exactly. Um, now I, I, I kind of liked the idea, but like, I see someone like a Westbrook really using it really early. They would be probably mad that he didn't save it for that one fan You could use it in trades though, like you could be like, hey, we're trading We want to trade for Westbrook, but you also have to trade us a fight a fan. So he gets an extra one It's like an asset. Yeah, like a draft pick. Yeah

Think about signing dry. So we're gonna need we're gonna need a couple more fire fans We need all your entire teams's fighter fan if we're gonna get Draymond. Now, with the fan? There's only, there's only a few guys that I can see really using it. Isaiah Stewart, pretty sure he will use his Draymond. Draymond would use his in like the first quarter of the first game. When you watch Draymond's antics, it's in real time. Yeah. It's like, it's like these

real times, like he gets hit in the elbow and then now he wants to over fling, right? I don't see how a fan gets under his skin. He doesn't get easily moved by fans. So it's true. Mostly just Westbrook at this point. Maybe Dylan Brooks. He might mix it up. You know, probably. It'd just be some random quiet guy that we don't know of and he's just sitting there. He's done had enough and he just points you, me in the middle. And you're like, oh, shh. Yeah, I wasn't ready to fight. Yeah, yeah. I want to go back real quick to the Thunder and the Nuggets series.

So it's 1-1. They're going back to Denver. Is Denver, like, they get home, are they happy with how things went in Oklahoma City? Because at the end of the day, they flipped home court. They got the first game, but then they just got their ass kicked the second game. So how do you think that team's feeling right now?

Are they confident? Listen, there's, I personally don't think they're confident because even game one, you was getting built to ass, right? You end up coming back, but it wasn't, it was a comeback, but it wasn't really, you didn't play very well, right? It looked like he was getting manhandled. He was bad body language from Yocage in the fourth quarter.

And then they ended up making a comeback here. You just got the doors blown off. I don't, I don't know what you take from game two nor one that actually helps you in game three. Yeah, right. It's same thing with New York like New York. You're getting beat down the first you're down 20 and just sheer just sheer willingness gave you those. So you have you have something that you can say. Hey, I don't give a fuck what they're up. We got this going into the garden, which is going to be bananas. Right. Um, I don't see how Denver goes home

and they're like, yeah, don't worry. That was just, we stole one guys. Let's just defend our home court. I don't see what speech that, um, men in black can, can really give. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, you, your, your college career at Arizona, I have a question about Arizona basketball in general. How are they not good every single year? Because it feels like the greatest place to go to school as a basketball player. Yes. I mean, you know, um, the weather, the women, right? That's it. The, the, the women. You're right. That's it. The atmosphere, the fan base. It's one of those things where, you know, when you're talking about just West Coast basketball, like when you're talking about like the style of play,

Arizona is, I believe, is West. So, you know, you still are competing with the legacy of UCLA, right? You probably get second fiddle, but you're still in Arizona. And then, you know, from there it's, you know, those guys try to stay close to home as much as possible. So, you know, getting the LA kid out of LA,

literally UCLA and USC aren't recruiting them. Then they'll look outward. So for the most part, you know, after Luke passed, those West Coast kids kind of stopped coming. So it seems like they're getting back to what they used to be. Yeah. You know, they recruited, you know, my son very hard. He just wanted to stay home. Yeah. Muscleman, muscleman who coached me, called him every single day.

Right. Call. I didn't even know he was, they was talking to three in the morning, you know, about basketball and about work that out. Right. So, you know, you know, muscleman had a hand up on everybody because he actually called him every day. Right. Knowing that, you know, you know, Muscleman had a hand up on everybody because he actually called him every day. Right. Knowing that, you know, that he's gonna reclass. I don't think everybody realized he was gonna reclass and be a senior. So most of the guys didn't really recruit him like that.

And Muscleman was there from the beginning. If your son goes on to play in the NBA, or what are you gonna tell him about playing cards on the plane? I told him, listen, if, if, well, you know, I was, I was, I was great at cards. It does sound fun. Every time I hear about it, I'm like, what's better than that? You and your boys playing cards on a plane. Like no one wants to be on a plane pass time with a little gambling. Yeah. You know, I don't be an antagonizer. Realize that losing money is more important than how much they're

losing. Right. You know, it just, the idea of losing money is, you know, it was more of the problem than $1,100. Right. To this day, I don't even know how much he was down to be that man, right? Some people say, oh yeah, we want to, I want about four grand into, it was like four to six grand is how much he was down.

And for that team, that's like losing 300,000 because they only played for 20 a hand. Right. When you're talking about like, I was with LeBron and Richie them. Well, LeBron wasn't playing, but Richie and Mavnem and Larry Hughes, we was playing 500 a hand and I'm, I'm on a big contract and I'm still like, right. Yeah. I was hearing, you know, games that they were playing a thousand dollars a hand.

So that means, you know, everybody puts up, there's four players. The game already started four thousand. You get one to two, one in the boo. You're talking about you got boo for four thousand. Now it's eight thousand in the pot. Now you got three people who have the any backup. Right. You're looking at eleven grand and you just started a game. Right. Yeah, that's not the type of motion I wanted.

So I will tell him, listen, when money like a real winner, don't brag. Yeah. And if you do hold a taser, right? Tase the fuck. Did you hear from anybody else in the league that was like after the incident went down, they were like, hey, man, now they're telling us we can't play cards on games. What the fuck? Why'd you do that? Nah, no one, no one cared.

No one cared? Because I feel like at the time you might have thought this whole thing was going to blow over. Yeah, no. So yeah, it happened on the 21st. We left Phoenix. So it was our Phoenix West Coast trip flying back. Happened on the 21st, I think. And then the story didn't leak until I think New Year's.

Right. So it was like, you know. Because to be to be honest, this shit we did in locker rooms, right, it's it's basically having jackass inside of a building and only you guys get to critique each other, right? So there's been paintball shootouts in locker rooms, right? BB shootout, like Nick Young tells a story that I shot him in the back with a BB gun in the middle of a gun awareness meeting by the NBA.

All right, you know, they just came to my house while I was sleeping, you know, him and Andre Blotch, they paintballed me in my bed, right? The night before, so they decided that they were gonna protect themselves with BB guns. Because I was gonna, so I froze my paintballs and I was gonna be shooting frozen paintballs at them. And then I went in a locker seeing a BB gun and I was offended. You're bringing

BB guns in a locker room to have a so I went in a locker room. I mean, I went into the meeting there in the middle of a meeting I went to his back and pulled it. And he's screaming stuck in his skin. And I was like, oh, so where were we at? And then just, you know, put the gun down and just. I mean, it was a very funny team. When you look at who was on there, you got you, obviously Nick Young and JaVale McGee,

Blatch, Andre Blatch, all those guys. Deshaun Stevenson. And then we had like those championship minds. We had the Karan Butler's, the, the Sean Stevenson. And then we had the, like, uh, those championship minds. We had the Karan butlers, the Antoine Jamieson's, uh, the Brennan Haywoods, the Eton Thomas too serious for my blood. Right. Right. Um, we had, uh, we had, uh, I call it the Jacqueline hide type of locker room. You had goofballs and really serious. Mm hmm. Yeah. Did the team ever like was the coach ever like how do I how do I get control these guys like a substitute teacher like I can't control the class right now.

In the locker room. He didn't come in a locker room. But in practice, you know, we were serious. I didn't realize it until when someone asked me is like, why did you do the things you did in locker rooms? But I thought you was this serious guy. I thought you worked out. I thought when you got to the gym, you did this. And I said, what the fuck are you talking about? I did. And then I was like, all right, so explain to me your routine. And then I was like, okay, I got to the gym about five six o'clock You know, I took my four or five hundred shots lifted sauna, right? took a nap and then you know ten thirty and then I was like

Because I'd be in a gym by myself so much right I'm in a gym at 11 p.m. To one then I get back in Majority of my working out. I'm by myself The only time I seen those guys Was during games couldn't do that in a game day, but in practice so 10 15 10 30 when everyone's there It's like PE for me. Uh-huh. Yeah, I didn't have the concept of these guys are getting ready for practice. I've already done my shit. What's up? Let's have fun. That was my problem. And I didn't notice that then that when these guys came in it was recess. personally so I just wanted to just have fun before we had the practice yes I mean that makes sense it also sounds

like you'd be our set up here we have a full court and we have everyone coming around we do basically jackass shit so I think you need to come take a visit to our headquarters hey you sound like you have a lot of fun here. I'll leave these motherfuckers in a minute for some basketball and free time. Yeah, it's recess here all the time. I got one more question about the gun incident because I don't think the documentary brought this up, but after it happens and before the story leaks, before the guy from the New York Post starts making phone calls about it, had you guys squashed it already? Were you, were you in Javarro's like,

were you cool? Yeah. Okay. So look, even like if you listen to like job, I think it was Andre blocked, Andre Blotch and Nick Young, you know, once his gun came out, like, Oh shit, this is serious. It was, it was, it was done after that. Like, you know what I mean? It was pretty calm after that because I know my four didn't have nothing in him. So I knew I was safe. He had something I didn't know that was part of this little game I was playing.

So, you know, it was the fuse right then. And then we both went into the jacuzzi because that's what we did before practice. We both went into the jacuzzi. And then we was having a conversation. And I'm like, you know, why are you so serious? And then he was like, man, you just take too much shit. Like he's mad at me because I'm joking too much. I'm mad at him like, no, you're arguing over $11 fucking

hundred dollars. And he's mad at me because this is what actually happened. It was a two, two, one. He had his, he got booed. So he had to re up the pot. Yeah. So if nobody wins the money, and it goes 2-2-1, that means there's two ties, everybody has to re up. If you don't get no books. So like, if you know how to play spades, imagine if you don't get a hand, right, you didn't win a

hand, you have to match was ever in the pot. So I guess it was like his second time matching the pot. Earl went out. Javel didn't take any cards. So most likely he had all Trump, four Trump, three high Trump. And from what Earl was, whoa, nevermind. That means he had ace, king and queen, meaning he was going to win the money and possibly booted both of us. Javaris needed five. So that means he didn't have no Trump. So I'm already laughing. I had three Trump. I said and showed my hands like, yeah, I'm not going to be a part of this fight.

And threw my cards in that kind of, that was the, the thing that he was mad at that. I didn't help him in this fight. I didn't help try to make it to 21. Right. You left him out. Yeah, to dry them to dry and that was like, yo, you're my guy. See, there's these things in the NBA where your personal relationship needs the overweight. The game rules itself, right? So if me

and you are best friends and there's $8,000 in the pot and you have a king and I have an ace and I hold my ace to the end. So I'm going to give you the money, but I'm going to boo you. So the $8,000 can get back in there. Yeah, right. It makes sense. Right, yeah. If I did that, you are taking that very personal because we have a relationship

and we don't suppose to do that to each other. And I'm like, shit, I want the $8,000 back in the game. So I'm gonna, I can't win this 8,000, but you gotta put it back in, I'm gonna boo you. That was more of it that I didn't help him fight for the money or fucking get booed with him. And I'm like, yo, you did the crime, you do the time was my thing.

Yeah, that makes sense. I also liked the idea of you guys squashing it in the jacuzzi afterwards. Like, you know the other guy doesn't have a gun at that point. I'm going to just be honest, man, after it happened, we was fine. The only wedge we really have, we had was kind of like during it, it was like during, you know,

during the trial and stuff, it's like, wait a minute. Like, I heard what your lawyer said. Do you believe the lie that y'all are telling or is this, we still playing? Cause you already got off. You got what's it am so you don't need to make this kind of statement. The fact that you already got basically a slap on the wrist

in a sense of what happened here. Because technically the story's opposite. I never touched a gun, never held a gun. No one seen me with a gun. I just said, yo, those are mine. I did that shit, right? I was just standing on business, right? So the fact that you pulled yours out,

the gun was pulled on me, technically. Right, yeah, right. So the fact that, you know, everyone thinks I pulled it on you, I'm willing, I'm willing to let that narrative run because I know if we go to court, the real story can be told. So that was kind of the only riff. After that, it was more, this is my little brother, man,

and I'm gonna hang with him. So I used to text with him in jail, send him phones. Like, we was, I used to, you know, text with him in jail, send him phones. Like, you know, we was, we was, we was, you know, behind the scenes talking, you know, trying to keep them from, you know, uh, going into that dark place, talk about basketball, you know, so from, you know, 10 years, it was more of the, Hey man, how good is boom, boom, boom. Like we was always in the talks. Yeah. All right. I got one last question. This has been so much fun. Uh, we appreciate you coming on. You have a great, you know, this obviously this untold story on Netflix, but everyone should go also listen to Gil's arena, your podcast, which

is awesome. Row back question. R H O B A C K dot com promo code take 20% off your first purchase Q zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, row back.com promo code. Take last question. Uh, you gave Lamar Odom, uh, his payment for big three while he was having sex. Yeah. Can you tell me? I don't understand that. Okay. So, um, since I was the captain, right? Um, I got the checks handed them out. Oh, no, everyone got the wrong check. But Lamar wasn't there yet. Right. So, you know, I get worried.

We're in Charlotte. So I don't know if he drove there. I don't know what happened, but I had his check. So I was like, you know, when you get to town, I got your check. Just hit me up. So I get a text. It was like, yo, I'm at the hotel. You around. I was like, yeah, I'm in my room. He was like, yeah, can you bring my check? That. All right. So I

was like, oh, what room you in? He gave me the room number. I go knock on the door. Right. He literally like, it wasn't, you know, like creak the door open. I got to hand it to him because this is the first time I meet Lamar. Yeah. This is the first time I meet him. He swings the door open. Come on in. What neck you like?

Oh, man. But before I like looked away, I see bent over. Nice rat. I mean nice back. So I had to look back. And then he just goes, she's bent over the bed and he just starts going in. And I'm like, and it was like, yeah, yeah, just put it right there. How quickly did you get out of the room? Right. I didn't move that fast. I had my eyes. It was nice. I've never, like I've been around some wild dudes. Never.

That's crazy. Never seen that. Like I'm like, Lamar's wild. That's's funny. It even got wet. So I heard the story of game one, which I'm like, OK, that makes it. Game one, they said after game one. I wasn't there, but I had I had court. After game one, they said he has his phone. He's in the shower.

Watching porn. Mm hmm. Like he said, they said, yo, he's watching like it's a Netflix series. He just sitting there just, yeah, man, how y'all think I did today? Yeah. And then there are Rick Mahorin is talking to him and he's just sitting there like, hey, so do we still get paid? No matter how we did it? Oh, that's great. And he's just watching a full blown porn like it was regular TV.

So when I heard the story, I'm like, nah, he can't be that wild until that right there. He's watched every porn on the internet. He made that claim in like 2015. He'd seen every single porn. Yeah. He's a historian. I will say I I would believe it. If you just finished playing a basketball game and you're in the shower and the first thing that you are watching is porn. Yeah. That's fair. You have to catch up on the new episodes. Yeah. I can't get by. Yeah. All right. Well, that's right. You had to catch up on the new episodes. Yeah, I can't get by. Yeah.

All right. Well, Gil, thank you so much. We'll definitely have you back on, man. This was so much fun and we really appreciate your time. I appreciate it. Appreciate it. Thank you for having me. Fire Fest of the Week is going to be brought to you by Morgan and Morgan.

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Max hey guys, how we doing? Hey doing good good. I thought we'd surprise you. Uh, surprise Hank. He's not so happy to hear your voice. Is this later tonight or is this, is this in real time? Yeah. What, what, uh, so how you doing, Max? You have a fire fest this week? Yeah, I do have a fire fest. Uh, my fire fest of the week is time zones. Yes. Yeah. I, you know, I'm in Hawaii right now. I think it's about a six hour, maybe seven hour difference. I still don't know. I can't figure out the time zones out here.

And I keep looking forward to watching Nick Celtics every night or every night that they play. And somehow I just keep missing the games. Do you guys have any updates that you could give me of like what's going on with this series? I was thinking about you, Max, because you must be so far behind in Hawaii that it's still like early in the second halves there So right now you're thinking the Celtics are winning. Yeah up 20 turns out they lost both games

No, they didn't I I'm pretty sure I saw that they were up 20 in both of those games. Yeah, they were well It is so bad that even Jerry O'Connell said it's Just for the record you're gonna hear that tomorrow but damn okay all right no I get it I get a hank you're upset I'm not that wasn't me saying that that was Jerry O'Connell saying that yeah I guess I guess that it's super embarrassing that Jason Tatum has now taken the crown of the worst playoff performer in the Eastern Conference. Ooh. From who? From who? Joellen Bede for a long time was known as the worst Eastern Conference superstar to play

in the playoffs. And Jason Tatum simply has worse playoff stats than Joellen Bede. And that's a fact. I mean, Max, this is one stat that matters most. Pretty cleansing. You want to go look at him? Oh, yeah. Go look at the one stat that matters most.

Hank, go look at him. Stat matters most. All right the one. Hey hey hey go look at him. That matters might give us a set. Is this the take that you were marinating on. Oh yeah. Tatum is just as bad of a playoff performer as you always. This is so pathetic. That's back it up. All right. He just pulled the second computer. Max has two computers out. That is correct. Go ahead. Max Jason Tatum has 24 points per game on 43% shooting. Not terrible. 43% shooting is bad. Significantly worse than Joel Embiid. He has eight assists and eight rebounds. Okay. Okay. 24-8-8.

I'll sign up for that all day. This guy sucks, Hank. Five assists, five assists, eight rebounds. 24-8 rebounds. Five and eight. Joel and B, 25 points per game on 46% shooting, 11 rebounds, four assists, two blocks. I have a question for Max, Hank. PFT. Yeah, Max. This is PFT commentary from part of my take. Which one of those two players has missed more playoff games?

What does that mean? Oh Hank? Yeah, Hank. You want to rephrase it? Dumb it down for you? Okay, so I have an answer then I have a follow up question. Okay, Hank, same question. The answer is those are just numbers. Those are numbers. is there doing numbers right now numbers about head-to-head stats there's numbers that's a team that's a team that got it that's team stat now this is um we're looking at individual the what about what about an elimination games what about an elimination games time and time again not showing up in the plan what about an elimination in elimination what about in elimination games time and time again not showing up in the play what about an elimination in elimination games What about in elimination games max?

Because that's what you need to show up the most that actually yeah Jason Tatum had one good elimination game Which is even just one overall stats are that bad with a 50-point game hmm Multiple good about Eastern Conference final stats head-to-head like when it matters the most you know to get to the finals What is that which guy's better numbers, but all playoff? Are you saying that all playoff games don't matter? No, I'm saying the Eastern Conference finals matter more than the first round all playoff games don't matter What about they all matter the state because you could get to the Eastern Conference finals you got to play well in the early game What about your terrible? What about what about what about you came on the show for this? Yeah, what about the fact that Joel and beads a loser?

What about the fact that Jason Tatum would also be a loser if he wasn't playing for the Celtics? No, that's a good point Jason Jason Tatum would be a loser if he wasn't a champion. That's true Max played horribly in that championship and was carried by the rest of the team I hate that you're making us defend heck and Jason Tatum. Here's what's happened Here's what's happened. I am simply reading the fact that they have the exact same numbers. This is what's happening Hey, what numbers for numbers with the Thunder and the Celtics going into this series? All I'm doing is doing the same thing of numbers for numbers between Joe Allen beat Jason Tatum in the playoffs Here's what's happened numbers. That's what he that's what he kept saying. What's the games played number?

What, what do the numbers say? I'm just curious. I'm asking what, how many games has Tatum played versus in beat? He's looking at a second computer. This is unfortunate because this is, uh, unfortunately Max is having a great time in Hawaii. He's sitting on the beach. I would never come on the show from Hawaii. I'll say that we know that, but here's the problem. Max, uh, this sounds like a take. You said you texted us last night. You said, I got to take a marinating on. And this is one of those things. I wanted a couple of days of marinate on this tape to be fair. Yeah. I was, I thought I had to, I had to bring it out. Yeah. Uh, so this is unfortunately one of those takes you've been

marinating on, but usually when you marinate on the take, you'll at least do a trial balloon to me and PFT and we'll be like, Hey Max, this is probably the dumbest thing you could say and it really is going to make you look stupid. And then you won't say the take. Unfortunately we're not around and this isn't going well Why you haven't given me any response other than I mean that he's played more games the Number the fact of the matter is that Jason Tatum just won an NBA title last year And he played badly in that finals Jason. I I Listen, I'm not saying actually didn't play that

I'm not saying that Jason Tatum has had been like then Joel And he hasn't played that badly either. They have the same numbers. It's a tough tough tough argument Why why Jason Tatum literally won a championship last year? Yeah? He's got her also gonna win the series. That's where it's like you're gonna want a championship last year, okay? The often Celtics won a championship last year Jason Tatum is a part of the Boston Celtics, but he is not the entire team. Max, this take would be perfect if you let it marinate for a little bit longer, let it soak a couple more overnights, and if the Celtics get swept by the Knicks, then you

could come over top with some of these stats and then you could be like, what have you done for me lately? This is a take, this is a take if the series was over, maybe. Yeah, if the series was over. If the series over series is not you know what it is to be fair I did say I wanted to marinate over a couple days and then I was asked and then I was asked to bring the take today Max gets a Max gets a you said you brought up to take yourself. What would you want to come on? Yeah, yes, what would two days of house says take no, I'm on vacation All right, Max gets a Villanova Pope and all

of a sudden he thinks that he's infallible too mm-hmm feeling yourself Max the numbers are the numbers that's all all I wanted to do was bring up numbers all right do you have a fire fest yes time zones oh yeah time zones how is why you been and just why you have to why actually incredible let's let's get a view from my room over here Breaking let's get it. Let's get a room view Salty I love it. Oh That's pretty pretty nice view max. Yeah, it is good. There. There's some turtles that go down in that little corner right there I don't know if you can see my finger

There's some turtles Every morning I come out and I just go out and look at the turtles for a little bit. Mr. Pairs, all of his grand grandfathers and ancestors. Um, they're just hanging out. Vibes are high. People. Oh, I actually, people are just coming up. I wouldn't have even known about Celtics, Nick, unless the people that are in this resort were just so excited to tell me that the Celtics just keep blowing leads. Yeah. You said you text us last night that you stopped watching the game when they're up 20 and then someone came up to you at the pool and was like, Hey, did you see that? Yeah, I know. I, it was, I actually didn't believe it. I thought someone was looking

at a box score from the game before. I was like, there's no way that this actually happened twice. It's been pretty crazy, Max. They just keep shooting threes and they keep missing. Oh, man. I don't understand. I don't understand what's happening. Wait, didn't Hank say that they were only gonna lose,

what was the number, two and a half before the finals? Two and a half, yeah. I lost, I lost. Oh shit, that's an over, right? Cash it, yeah. That's cashy over. You can cash that over. And we. That's an over right? Cash it. Yeah. Cashy over. You can cash that over and we're not even halfway there yet. Okay. And I also said though that if they went down Oh two in the series, he wouldn't be worried. So he's not worried.

But then he was a little bit worried, but then he's not worried. He did tweet after that game that he was worried. Yeah, no, I updated it. Yeah. Update has been worried. I will. We miss you, Max. Um, are max Are you gonna get us some some gifts? I? Already got most of them. Oh, I already have some for everyone, but I'm getting I'm coming back with with Extras don't me a titty mug did you get memes? To be determined okay, what about like don't don't spoil the gifts, but is there a chance I'm getting another Pope bobblehead? To be determined, okay, okay, so those are both nose No one knows how good what this means for recruiting you literally don't don't know. It's never been done before. That's true.

That's true. That's, that's very true. Um, all right, Max, we miss you. We'll see you Sunday night. Uh, yes, for sure. I will be there Sunday night. Um, Jason Tatum, Joel Embiid, same playoff performers. Okay.

Same. Exact same. Thanks, Max. See ya. All right. That was our good friend, Max. He's gonna be back on Sunday. Uh, Hank. How did you think that went for him bad? Yeah, does that put a smile on your face?

Yeah, that actually that actually had the reverse effect where it's like Max came on here thought he had you know discovered the nuclear atom and it was just like But Tatum's won a title. I mean it's good like as his boss It's a good thing to file for the end of year reviews. Get better at vacations, because that's just horrible performance. He is bad at vacations. Yes, I agree. Yeah, he seems like he's having fun.

He's a quantity over quality. He's kind of like the Celtics. Takes a lot of shots at him, misses. Yeah. Hank, do you have a firefighter? Yeah, I do. When I was flying to Arizona, you guys know I fall asleep on planes. I also have had a history of getting a little woozy on flights.

And this one was bad. I fell asleep on the way there and I kind of came to as we were, you know, the pilot comes on, it's like we're starting the descent and there was some turbulence And as I was waking up, I was like sweating like I felt nauseous and I couldn't get up and so I had to hit the thing a bunch and Asked you know there was no barf bag in my seat, okay, and so by the time the flight attendant came over she handed me a bag, but it was like 50% like I legitimately projectiled what into this

Bag it was like all liquid like it was just all you puked on a flight And you only you only got half of it in I yeah and like I had my sweatshirt Oh, hey, and a ton got on my sweatshirt and the guy next to me I was like this guy must think I'm an absolute creature. Did you hit that guy? He was there was a there was a seat in between us So he didn't get anything on him, but it was it's just a disgusting It's a terrible spot to be in you feel like a mutant and there's nothing you can really do or say other than sorry Yeah, and I had just woke I was I was super discombobulated and I felt gross and it was gross

And it was gross. That was my fire first. Oh, hey, that's pretty bad. That's really bad Did you say i'm sorry to the guy? I said i'm sorry to the guy. I said i'm sorry to the flight attendant person in front of me It was you know, they're all nice like oh don't worry about it, but it was gross. Oh man, hey, that's tough That's crazy. Once i'm hank did that next to me on a flight. He had just had a go-gurt Oh, we took off and uh yeah, it got a little bit on my arm. It was like baby puke Yes, it was kind of adorable. I just started patting him on the back. I said they're there what happened I Don't know I think I just gotten there was just turbulence in my That's like yeah, it's true. Savage mode just puke on a flight. I know it's it's it's mutant mode

I feel like people used to do that a lot more frequently because they used to have the barf bags everywhere Yeah, now you gotta ask for one. I hope that's how they get you the airlines cutting back Yeah, I was it was but there's nothing there was nothing I because I couldn't have gotten up It was a new first class. I was it was it was but there's nothing there was nothing I because I couldn't have gotten up it was a new first class. I was southwest so I was okay. I was in the first section. Okay, nice. brutal Hank. It's been a bad week. Really bad week. I blame most of this on Barcelona. Yeah, that's true. Your beloved Barcelona. So when we're recording the sound

that you heard where Hank got really upset that they were losing in the moaning groaning Hank didn't realize that there were two periods in extra time So Hank got up to leave and they're like no Hank you can come back and watch there's more soccer And then you got pumped and yeah, nothing really happened Yeah, I don't think I can watch soccer ever again. Oh wow great game by Inners goalie though. That was an awesome soccer This is the kid that I didn't realize that the parcel is best player 17 that kid is unbelievable. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, those tough. It's just up in your week. No try again next week. Yeah Okay, pft your fire fest. I had a pretty good week this week, so I can't really complain about too much

But I did have one thing that happened to me I can't really complain about too much, but I did have one thing that happened to me Earlier today, I think a lot of people can identify with it's a minor thing, but it felt bad at the time I took a dump and While I took a dump. I forgot to bring my phone with me into the bathroom Mmm, I don't know if you guys have experienced that recently. Yeah, that's so it is the worst Yeah, it is the way it could ruin your day. Yeah, cuz you just sit there and you're like, well what now what I just sat there and and I thought I was alone with my thoughts For about seven minutes and it's a shocking thing in today's day and age I was looking for stuff to read the dude wipes ingredients box. Maybe songs to listen to

So like in my own head. Yeah. No, I wasn't singing along to any songs my own head. Okay, nice But you just yeah, you're sit there with your own. I was humming a little bit. I was humming at the time. I Forget I forget the name of it. Yeah, it's tough when you get a song when you get a song So you got to sing it to get it out of us? No, you not always not sometimes you just have to hope that it'll get out of there because you don't really really really don't want To sing the lyrics to this song Although musically from a melody standpoint It's a good melody But the lyrics are like the worst lyrics that you could possibly write right ever maybe the worst lyric

Maybe the worst things anyone's ever said ever yeah But the melody the melody you get stuck in your head. It's hard when it's a catchy tune. Yeah Yeah, yeah, the title wasn't something We're like, yeah, I probably why even listen this in the first place, right? I'd forget the name of the title to this to the track I'll be honest Yeah, I've forgotten everything about the lyrics to that at this point But no you start to like think about can I read the the shampoo bottle? Can I read like is there anything with words on it in the bathroom that I can read?

To just make this yeah faster, but yeah Yeah It was something that happened to us when we were kids a lot more if they're you didn't have it like a magazine or something And then I just beat magazines in there yet, and if you're you screwed and you don't have magazines You're just like alright. Well this fucking sucks. Yeah kids these days don't know the struggle. No they don't I mean, that's that's Rick Riley and Bill Simmons. I feel like that's yeah a majority of their fan base is Pure industry. Yeah, I think shit's like 90% of Rick Riley articles were read to while there was poop coming out I'm somebody's butt easily you guys I scum and you can give give an author you get caught to

Not taking it down. Put like if you're bored eating breakfast. You just end up reading the back of the cereal box Oh, yeah, that always sucked That was always that always felt bad. The funniest was the part of this complete breakfast and it was like 10 items in the complete breakfast Yeah, like three glasses of orange juice Then you had the cereal with the milk then you had like a brand muffin on the side Then you had yogurt it was like yeah, if you eat all this shit together, it's a full breakfast. Yeah, I got a, I bought Lucky Charms for myself on Tuesday. 24 hours. That's pretty impressive. Yeah, that's pretty good. Full box of cereal is a great, I just crushed. Yeah, it was, it was a toot. It was a night in a morning. I finished my honey

nuts this morning. Honey, not Cheerios, the goat goat But I got them I got them on deck all the time. I got a backup I figured out a way to make them even a little bit better. Well, you got so I got I'm a dessert cereal guy Yeah, like the Rice Krispies Treats squares. No, you're saying actually after dinner. Yes, yes. Yes. Yes. Great Yeah, it's dessert soup. Yeah, so I got a frother a few months ago and I've been frothing everything. Okay, which is it's kind of addictive. I just take stuff out of my fridge. I'm like, will this froth and I try to froth it most things do froth. I frothed my cereal milk the other day. It was delightful. It was like a little little moose cereal. That is nice. It was great. That is nice. I've been doing trying to get healthier. Well, this leads into my fire for us I've been you know, we're reassessing after the kidney stones Doing what the lucky charms after this reassessment? It's part of yes in the timeline gets a little blurry got it the time I gets a little blurry, but I have been eating Cheerios and bananas. That's good. Yeah, but yeah No sugar. Okay, that's good. Honey nuts are standard standard. Hmm. Yeah, I feel like that's the pinnacle of health has been like I'm just gonna eat these standard yellow box Cheerios raw dog and Cheerios. Yeah, that's you can't get healthier than that

I'm sure I'm probably already back. I am though did have a the reassessment of the health is ongoing Wednesday though I went with Eddie to do a video we went to the VNB factory hot dog factory and I like ten hot dogs great people awesome time but that's for work I basically just like remade a new kidney stone Yeah, I mean what goes in hot dogs probably all healthy stuff, right? Listen, I had I told Eddie when in the video will come out I told Eddie when we go into this factory if I see something I don't like I'm leaving because I don't want to have

I love hot dogs. I don't want to ruin for me was totally fine. That's everything was everything looked good Got to see how the sausage gets made Totally fine. That's everything was everything looked good got to see how the sausage gets made But yeah, I uh, that was a that was a problem for me that I ate that many hot dogs, uh Two days after I passed the kidney stone. That's fine. You'll probably be fine It was a lot of the best time to eat a hot dog or anything bad for you is right after you get rid of a kidney stone That's true. There's a guy there's a vienna beef and like I said eddie's gonna put out the video but 10 30 every day they just test hot dogs in the kitchen I like that I walked up there and there was just hot dogs and they're like here have as many as you want

I said the smoke break you get a wiener break. Yeah. Yeah, I was a chili I was eating potato soup as well. I had six cups of soup wait. That was part of the hot dog break Yeah, so it's a hot dog chili and potato. Yeah, they have different stuff I had a hot dog that? So it's a hot dog chili and potato soup break. Yeah, they have different stuff. I had a hot dog that isn't even released to the public. I guess if you work at a hot dog place, it's probably going to smell pretty bad in there, so they don't mind if you just fart all the time. It was the opposite.

It smelled delicious. Did it really? Because you've got to also remember, Vienna Beef, they're doing pastrami, smoked briskets. It smelled incredible. The smokehouse, seeing where the hot dogs go and get smoked Oh, it smelled so good. Yeah, that sounds like a great trip Yeah, and that's why we got the dick right here. That was why Eddie's mission was to get that so Pretty pretty big pretty big day. Love that. Yeah. All right memes you got a fire fest. Oh

I had a great week. Okay. Yeah, this was like top top ten weeks. Is that his max isn't here? No, but I was got the number one pick Nick Nick's have just shocked. It's Celtics twice Yeah, Matt's our wagon and max doesn't feel is gonna eventually win a Super Bowl And none of the Georgia players have gotten any driving violations. So great week. You're pretty cool. What about last night? No, can't think of a Getting a single thing can't think of a single I did get to see Shane wearing his batting gloves last night Yeah, it's shocking. Yeah, it was very shocking and they're even more shocking is that he takes them off to go first base. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, we got we got we got smoked smoked. I was upset. I wasn't able to attend

But I did say before the season started that I was not gonna be there for any 630 games. I had to I Told my wife. I was like, I'm not home a lot and to be like, hey, I'm not gonna be home for softball Yeah was felt it's like hey, are we videoing this? No, hey softball Hank did a fine job pitching. Yeah Yeah, we just too many on their runs it happens and this isn't really a knock. I respect the hustle a little bit of a try hard move, but PFT team was there an hour and a half early. They got a full BP. I showed up there doing situational plays. Each player probably hit like, listen, they won. You can't criticize it. I'm saying I had to hat tip. It's like, we're never going to try that hard.. I took I think I took 10 swings

Yeah, I did take 10 swings if we don't mean the playoffs We should we should schedule a game with when Max and I can play so I did miss playing but I also again 630 is a very early time. That's a witching hour. It was great. Also to be fair to Hank He was probably thinking about the Celtics. Yeah, but that point they were we we had a TV it we had a TV owner Yeah, I was home. I had done. I was calling out scores to Hank just let him know I wasn't even trolling him I was like Celtics are crushing the Knicks. There's no chance that they lose I didn't think that they were gonna lose me neither. No yeah, no all right Memes, but like 1% of that is cuz max isn't here right?

No, I like having max around. Oh you do yeah, he he's cool. Okay. Don't doubt a lot, but he's cool He does zone out he's got a dd. It's a problem when he goes on his phone. It's like severance. Thank you He's looking at campus cuties. Yeah, you're like why aren't you looking this up on his computer phone? Hank who were you talking about specifically when you said unearned runs I? Mean our team had like five errors. Oh, yeah, not any any one of them. Yeah, not the best no one in particular Listen a lot of season left the guys that made errors two and two they're not a season left. Yeah, yeah Hopefully we play in the playoffs. That'd be awesome. It'd be great. Yeah, all right numbers three

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