Pardon My Take - Greg Olsen, Celtics Take Game 2, SCF G1 And Vanny Woodhead Is Back

Episode Date: June 10, 2024

The Celtics take a commanding series lead after winning Game 2. Jrue Holiday dominates and Kyrie is letting the Mavs down (00:00:00-00:27:09). Caitlin Clark left off the Olympics team and people are big mad (00:27:09-00:39:52). Who’s back of the week including Scottie Scheffler, James Harden and College Baseball (00:39:52-00:56:31). Greg Olsen joins the show to talk about upcoming TEU, winning an Emmy, being the second FOX game this year, what NIL would’ve looked like for him and more (00:56:31-01:45:27). We finish the show talking about the triumphant return of Vanny Woodhead (01:45:27-01:57:31).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. On today's pardon my take, the Celtics have a commanding 2-0 lead over the Mavericks. We're going to talk about game two that we just watched. We had game one of the Stanley Cup final. Goalie Bob stood on his head. We have a great interview with our longtime friend Greg Olson getting ready for TEU. And

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Thank you. Your team is so much better than the Mavs. Yeah, they are. They are way better team. Great team win. Not even really close. So you're up 2-0 right now. 92.6% of the time, the team that goes up 2-0 in the NBA playoffs ends up closing it out. And in the NBA finals, it is 86.1% of the time. So you guys are looking pretty good right now. Where were you for the Drew Holiday game? That was crazy because they basically the, the broadcasting booth was like the Celtics have the best back court. One of the best back courts of all time with Jalen Brown and Jason Tate and drew holiday

and, and Derek White were incredible tonight. They have Derek White is their fourth, I mean with a healthy poor Zingis, Derek White is their fourth or fifth option. And he was like, imagine having that on your team. They're just such a good team. One of the all time blocks in playoff history. I'm trying to think of some of the other chase down blocks that have occurred in the finals. That one, it really is the one that jumps to mind. Although you will have losers every time you talk about that block that will say it was a foul. Yeah. Just tune the haters out. It might've been a foul, but who cares? They didn't call it. They didn't call it. It was, it was, uh, yeah. Drew Holiday was out of his mind. Derrick White was huge. Jason Tatum, I know he didn't shoot it. They didn't call it, right? It was, yeah. Drew Holliday was out of his mind. Derek White was huge. Jason Tatum, I

know he didn't shoot well, but he played an incredible all-around game, rebounding assists. He was one rebound away from a triple double. He really wanted that rebound. He's also being guarded in a way that, you know, I mean, like he, I think if you could make any critique on Jason Tatum, it's weird that he's missing some of his layups, but everything else, like he's getting double teamed, he's making the right pass, and he, you know, like his, the focus that they put on him opens up everyone else and he had a great game even though he didn't shoot well. I have a fun stat for you, big cat, about Jason Tatum and his shooting woes.

The Celtics in the playoffs, when Tatum shoots beneath 50% this year. There's six no Yeah, I think he realizes when he doesn't have his you know, well, they've only lost two games. That's true Is a game he does a great job I'm trying to gas Hank up cuz I want I want cock your hand Is Jason kid go into the next press conference saying drew holiday is their best player? He's gonna have to he's gonna have to do something that was a smart move by him. That was it was it was basically like We're already out of this. I need to just like a tank. Yeah Because we're not gonna beat them, you know straight up so set the table if you if you didn't hear Jason kid in a press

Conference said yeah, Jalen Brown. He's a great player. He's their best player and It was very much designed to get I don't know maybe like Tatum reaching for something or Jalen Brown like in his own head. He was trying to pull a move like a psychology move like Phil Jackson used to do, but it does feel like it's too early in the series to break out the big guns. And it also feels like it's three years too late. Yeah, that's like that. They've been dealing with right there, their entire tenure together. And there was probably some truth to it a few years ago, but they've been through wars and they've, and like the maturity, I mean, you saw Jason Tatum, like he did not shoot well tonight, but he still was super impactful.

And like, that's the difference in maturity and like where they are as a team. They're just way better than math. And then on the math side, Carrie Irving, that's Luca can't do much more. That first half he was out of control and he ran out of gas a little bit. Uh, and it was also smart. The, the Celtics basically like played them one-on-one for a long time. Then they're like, all right, now we're going to double them. No one's in, in, in like, you know, in a feel for the game. And they just attack them on defense every offense, every single possession. But Kyrie, like that's, that's the difference. Kyrie, you You you are supposed to be one of the

best players on the court and through two games you have not like when Luka comes out Kyrie has to be the guy and he hasn't been even close to the guy. Oh and 12 since he stomped on lucky. Do you feel that Kyrie is though kind of delivering on his promise to bring a championship to Boston because he is he kind of is like the way he's playing. Yeah, no, he's playing terrible. I mean, he's not shooting well. He's not, he w he wasn't even like a factor. It felt like for half the game, like he just disappeared. He hasn't, he hasn't made a single three point shot yet. And so I think he's what? Oh, four eight from three right now. And he, somebody needs to

like snap Kyrie out of this. Cause we've been talking, we've been glazing Kyrie a lot. These playoffs talking about how mature he's gotten and how it's interesting, how he's like found a fit on a team and he's not causing a division. He needs to get weird with it. Kyrie needs to get back. Like has Kyrie gotten too mature is a question we should be asking. I do think I just could just be dumb, dumb sports fan take, but I do think there is something to the fact that Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum played him one-on-one in practice all the time for years and it's like that

They probably feel a lot more comfortable going up against him because they know his bag right? He's you know, one of the best players in the world But they've they've been in those situations day in and day out and like you can see when they play that they're not Doesn't matter who's guarding them like they're they're ready to face you know what they're really good at doing I saw this from Tatum and from Jalen Brown tonight they they can time when Tyree when Kyrie does the like almost fake spin and they poke their hand yeah on the backside as the ball is coming up and it's like a very very small window that you have to hit with them but they both do have that timed out yeah I mean the Celtics defense was is been incredible they can't

the the role players for the Mavs can't get any of their shots off. Like they, you know, Luca, they basically like Luca is going to do what he does and we can live with that because no one else is going to be able to do anything because we can guard everyone else one-on-one and have no problem. And like every guy can play defense on their team and Kyrie is just, yeah, I mean, he's just been completely shut down. Luke had eight turnovers. That's how good the Celtics defense has been. They're just a better team front to back, back to front. The only bad thing that happened tonight

was Porzingis looked like he got hurt again, and Max was celebrating before the podcast. Yeah, we walked in and Max goes, oh, Porzingis got hurt, let's go. This is, that is. We have, let's play got hurt. Let's go. This is that is we have This is out of context No, you're gaslighting your gas no, I'm I didn't have the cans on I just heard everybody Wow max just was celebrating that that Christop's got in I was not celebrating

Let's go me me and means do a very poor job of updating the herder injured board behind Hank and I realized that we did not update it before this game so I turned to Hank and to memes I was like oh nice poor thing is actually got hurt so it's not out it's not celebrating time that's not what you said though you said oh nice poor thing has got hurt again let's go Shane Let's do a quote card. Oh nice present again. That was only because it was like oh don't forget the let's go It was only because of the context of the hurt or injured injured board because I forgot to update it But it updated it kind of update. We don't celebrate injuries on this podcast. It's not an injury

it that wasn't an injury that was legitimately just a You were happy that he was injured. Max. For the sake of that one thing. And like he's not really injured. Like he's gonna play next game. It doesn't matter. You know what you- Like he's gonna play and he's gonna be fine next game. Max, you know what you need to transition your brain to because this series...

The Celtics are just better. Yeah, no. This is over. I'm over. So you need as a- as a- as a- Jason Tatum just Just need to play horribly That's all I care. He sucks. You guys were sucking his dick. He sucked tonight. I mean he's terrified He was terrified to shoot the ball to his shooting has been weird. It's weird He had open looks at the rim and then he would just pass out every time it was weird We'd have like what 12 assists? Yeah, but he but there were times where he had the easier shot and he just didn't take it

Okay So max what you need to transition to because you are the biggest hank hater on the podcast Which is actually there is competition for that and you you take the cake Yeah We do try to try to vie for that every now and then it's like one of those Low-key low-key memes is the biggest hank It's one of those interactive graphics where it shows like you know it will like followers year over year. Yeah. Like points leaders in their home run leaders in the in Major

League Baseball. And it just you know every now and then it will be PFT or me or memes will pop up but you stay up there. You never you never you never leave it for very long Well, I think such a dick to me whenever my team when you need to be just fucking win Well, you know, I would be nice to you if they won though. You need to be that's true Hank No, Hank would be he's a very very gracious friend when your teams end up winning. You need to root for a suite because Friday night would be game four and we would have basically be old news when you record on Sunday. I mean, I don't care anymore.

Max, which would you be, as a hater of Hank, which would you be rooting for harder? Kristoff's Prisingas to be injured and out for the rest of the... Wait, wait, let me finish the fucking question, Max. The other. Hank is loving this. Okay. Or Luca's rib injury to be severe, severe and he can't play for the rest of the series That way you can tell Hank that's a Mickey Mouse champion. Well, I should put it on well I like fly forever. I said that yeah, he did I said that to me before yeah

Was out. Oh my he wanted to be out for you Injuries, yeah, he wasn't gonna be out for the rest. It doesn't matter who it is. What do you have against Europeans? Oh, that's good. Yes, good point Slovenia Nothing, I just like I don't know. This is bullshit. This isn't even fun. None of these guys are even Italian Yeah, yeah, they're fake Italian Galinari would never another fun fact about about this the Celtics team Hank They are now 13 and oh on Sundays. That is a very fun fact crazy Crazy. Game seven. Game seven would be a Sunday. Yeah It's not gonna get... I don't think I mean If they don't win game if the Mavs don't win game three, it's sweet

Dad agree. I'd say that anything less than if it goes six games, that's a big disappointment I wouldn't even give the Celtics a championship if they would. I mean the Mavs role players like they're gonna they Also gonna make shots, but the Celtics also like their bad shooting game you you knew they were gonna have one Yeah, and this was the one they won. Mm-hmm. Where are they? 26% from three. Yeah, and they even had Peyton Pritchard thrown in that half court shot. Oh, it's beautiful. It was beautiful I will agree with Max that that Tatum. Yes He had a great statistical game and he did really well in terms of his passing But he they're triple teaming he doesn't touches the ball. They're putting a lot of

He's taking he's he's passing up open shots. It's in his head. He had 13 assists He's thinking about it. You said it yourself while we were watching the game. You're like. I don't know why he's not taking that I know as a couple, but it's not a problem I as obviously because you because you won by 15 points, it's not a problem. As someone who thinks that Tatum is overrated just by sitting next to Hank when he said that Tatum was better than Luca, Tatum played well tonight. He didn't shoot well, but the impact he had on the game was significant. Yeah, but you can't say that you watched that game and that looks like a guy who won it.

The game was quite close. I remember getting you seven verse Billy when he was terrible and then he just took over the fourth quarter like this year. But if you take him out of that game it's a completely different Celtics team because they can't like he makes so much in his rebounding is so good and like there's just there's so many more parts of the game. I agree that his shot looks off. Yes.

And that's all I'm saying. And it is more his layups. His layups have not been going in like they usually do, but everything else he does is winning basketball. Yeah. Right. Right now he would be, if you were to rank your NBA finals, MVPs for the Celtics, what would he be fourth? Um, I don't know. Almost getting a triple double today. I mean that that would be fourth would seem I I mean you can't do it after two games pretty close. Yeah, I mean, it's it's probably Jalen I mean true Angus would get some yeah I mean, it's two games. So it shows how good there are as a full team. Yeah Yeah, there's so there's so many guys on this team. They're Brad Stevens should get the

breast and Lucky yeah, Stevens should get the NBA MVP. Brad Stevens, someone said that. Lucky. Yeah. Lucky should get MVP consideration. Kyrie, yeah, this is the Kyrie story arc, just having like a renaissance this entire spring. But you know what I'm saying? When they talk to him about Boston,

he sounds very mature. I love the city. Still a lot of people up there that I really care about. And yeah, it didn't go the way we wanted. you know, sometimes things in life. It's like too much perspective I want to hear like the Kyrie hatred. Yeah Boston. Yeah, I want to he's gotten he's gotten too mature Yeah, I want him to get mature. I mean that's the well I mean, what would you do if you if you try to disrespect the entire city and then when it was 0 and 13 against them Since then is it 0 and 13? Mm since then. Is it 0 and 13? Wow. Tip my hat and say they're my daddy, the old Pedro. Damn. 0 and 13? That's

crazy. Luca is hurt as well, but I don't really know. He's an all time hurt when he's missing shots. He did the Big Ben. Feeling good when he... He just runs out of gas, too. He was just out of gas. He did the Big Ben. He had his knee iced up. He had his ribs iced up. Did you see the big wrap that they put around his torso? It was like something that you put on a stabbing victim.

It was wild. We need a flow chart. Luca hits incredible shot, and then it leads to talking shit to someone sitting in the first 10 rows. Luca misses shot Oh my god, is he out for the series? Yeah, that's it every single you get into one of the Celtics owners I think yeah sitting in the front row and they started jawing at it I did like the Celtics fan rubbing his belly during Lucas free throws

What's up with Luca and Jalen Brown just like being incredible offensive players and not being able to hit free throws Jim Brown hasn't been that bad in the finals, but incredible offensive players and not being able to hit free throws. Jim Brown hasn't been that bad in the finals, but it's weird. It makes no... Luca makes even less sense. Luca makes some of the most... Luca can make every shot. The hardest shots ever, and then he gets to the free throw line and it's like, what is

going on? You know how we were saying that some players should just take a couple steps back? Like if you're a goalie and you're really good at shooting threes, shoot from the top of the key. What Luca should do, first he should try to dunk a free throw. I think that is in the rules. The second thing he should do is try to do a fade away. Well, he actually just needs maybe one of his teammates to just stand behind him. Yeah.

Like stand like, because you know that shot he makes where he gets a guy on his hip and he just makes that every single time. He needs a teammate to just stand on his hip and he kind of can lean away from it and hit it every time. And maybe like almost foul him. Yeah, right. And then Luca can complain about getting fouled on a foul shot. On a foul shot, yeah. I think we solved it.

Hank, what, I mean, you're as happy as you could be. You deserve it. I mean, you were, well, you don't deserve it. No, I think I do. You don't deserve it. Oh, I hate this smile. This is me bringing, it's bring me to max's side very quickly seeing this little grin on your face Your happiness is deserved You don't deserve it personally, but your happiness is been a long time. It's been a long time and it's not over It's only two games. Oh, come on. So go there's work to be done

Hank there's just I'm done with cocky Hank. I don't need him to be any more cocky What are you talking about? Like yes, the Mavs could win a game. Yes, they could even win two games. They can win the next two games. You still wouldn't be that nervous. Two games would be a little bit depending on how they went, but no, yeah, you're right. Like the Celtics shot like shit tonight and they had that game in full control for the entire second half. The only time that the Mavs looked like they were going to maybe win this game was when Luka was just hitting absolutely everything in the first half.

Their role players have been non-existent. Not good. Well, they could have been in it if they called that foul on the chase down block. Yeah, Max Schiefflieber, I don't know. I mean, I know he was hurt, but he doesn't want to shoot. Non-Luka guys were two for 17 from three tonight Oh two for 17 and that's one of those was Dante Exum one of those with Dante Exum I thought we were gonna have the Dante Exum game. Yeah, he was one for one. He was actually their best player tonight Beast he was to build the whole team out of Dante. He was a plus four. He actually was their only

PJ Washington was plus two, but Dante Exum was plus four led the led the team More minutes. So there's going seven point favorites at home to two point dogs on the road I think that's just desperation like they just you know, you'd think that the Mavs going home They have some pride there's gonna be an opp but I feel like tonight was the off night for the song. Except for Drew Holliday. He was 11 for 14. He was insane. Because Tatum was just giving it. Like, Tatum got him so many open looks. How stupid are the Bucks? So stupid. That really is. And I know that Giannis got hurt in the playoffs, but still. How stupid. How stupid. I mean he's an elite defender. And he can he has

games like this where it's like he doesn't have to be the number he's never going to have to be the number one option on offense but he has games where he can play like the number one option and him and poor Zingas have experience in their careers taking on more of a significant role so when it like they have to step up they're not you know going to shy away from it and be like I'm a poor Zingas, but this was the, I mean, he was the, he was the guy in New York. This was his first, the last game one was his first game out of the, after the first round. No, I'm just saying as a, as a team, as a player on a team, you know, you have to score 30 teams, going to win. It's clearly the guy. Yeah. Yeah. It's like one option. You know you have to score 30 teams going to win. It's

clearly the guy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's true. Okay. Anything else? I mean Hank you just congrats man. Yeah. Life is great. Congrats. It's really good. It's great for you. Not nothing bad is going to happen after this. I gotta wait. You have a great Wednesday but you got Brady day on Wednesday. Yeah. You're just you're gonna meet Brady You're doing the past and the future you're gonna come one day What a day for you how many minutes you think you're gonna get with Tom? I have no idea. I don't know if we're gonna meet him to be honest You're gonna go watch you're gonna go celebrate a guy one you six Super Bowls and then at night watch Max just took off his head

Tom's probably gonna be like like, hey, hey, why are we watching the game tonight? Put your headphones back on. You're the producer of this podcast. Produce. He's pointing to memes. He's passing the ball. You just couldn't have me just say that one set the stage

rank that one night. I mean, Boston's, I fucking hate that. It's bullshit. Hank has his, he just can't, he cannot take that smile off his face I need the Phillies win the world so yeah the Phillies were great today now they will and they lost one game Yeah, yeah, that was pretty big game. Yeah, London London Sunday morning I lose the one nine game lead Celtics would never lose on a Sunday morning haven't every single team It's lost a London game has not won't gone on to win the World Series. That's a fact.

I think that's a fact. That's a fact. Right? Getting doubled up on the last play. Who's played in the London Series? You could say the same thing about any team that's won the London Series. What? Has never gone on to win the World Series.

Yeah, playing in the London Series means you won't win the World Series. Yeah, the Mets are not going to win the World Series. You're out. But if they won today, you could have just said the same thing. No, you're out. You're out, though. You shouldn't have played in the London Series. Yeah. They're going to lose to the C're out today that you could have just said you're out. You're out though Shouldn't have played in the London. Yeah, I They're gonna lose to the every time first round of the playoffs every time I lose to who the Cubs and it's gonna be the Cubs aren't making the playoffs, buddy

They're there's in it right now, dude They stink the pitching is good though. Yeah, but they can't fucking hit for shit Yeah, because the wild card the stupid wild make a move at the deadline Yeah, we'll make a move at the deadline. It's a bullpen depth. You're right. That's my biggest nightmare I keep thinking about it. By the way, can we say real quick just because we're on baseball You're at a young scubal sayang also bad sports town Philly scubal sayang. He's been incredible Why and that guy who gave me the tip when we did the cheesesteak pass out at Detroit, he just handed me a piece of paper and said, take Scoobles, Cy Young.

Because I said Scoobles, Cy Young, and then I had multiple, I think it was two or three Phillies fans reply, Ranger Suarez. But that's... It's really tough to not know that they give out two Cy Youngs. Oh, yeah. That's what I was going to say. Yeah. That's tough. It's tough. Very books. Oh, yeah. That's what I was going to say. Yeah. That's tough.

It's tough. Very tough. Very, very tough. I mean, Philly fans are... I mean, sometimes we're not the smartest people on the earth. This is one guy just being like, it's already locked up. Rangers Swords. It's like, buddy, I hope you're sitting down. They give two of these out every single year.

If Kyrie does the, I brought a championship to Boston that's exactly what Bryce Harper did when he signed with the Phillies. He said I've been looking forward to bringing a championship to Washington DC. Yeah. Crazy right. He's fulfilling the prophecy. All roads lead back to Philly. The Harper slide yesterday was so sick. What's up with him drinking vodka? We're done talking about baseball. We were talking about, we were currently talking about baseball. The city of Philadelphia has driven Bryce Harper to drink vodka in the dugout. He doesn't drink. He doesn't drink.

I know he's a Mormon. I think it's one of those like Homer juice things where you do something good and they hand you like a fake bottle of liquor. Yeah, probably. Hank, what's better, winning Banner 18 or just having to, or being around Max and watching just the pain and torture going through his body at all times? Banner 18, but it's, get the you got the runoff forever, right whenever I see him. I'll get all the merch. Oh Yeah, where would you rank this championship when the Celtics do win? Is that in your top 10 of Boston championships? Yeah top five

It's up to the sellers are my favorite team as a Boston sports fan So it must be hard to have just one I was only I was only a freshman when they won in high school I wasn't fully developed my frontal lobe is all the way there now. Oh it is yeah, that's news to us It'll be nice nice nice as an adult if they do win first Boston championship that you can truly remember Celtics well no I remember the your frontal lobe your week is incredible like you just go through tomorrow you have golf day tomorrow and then you just mandatory golf day yeah yeah yeah he's that's why he's rooting

for so hard for holiday reminds me of vacation mm-hmm the truth uh yeah who The truth, uh, yeah, okay with that one Fire Okay, dress the process The Stanley Cup final started they did and goalie Bob stood on his fucking head unreal unreal 32 shots 32 saves I remind me of Nick tranny when he made that save where he was coming across and did a cartwheel. Wild move. He even had a save where maybe multiple saves without a stick. Yeah, he was just unconscious. Yeah, and I feel like Edmonton might be the better team, but it doesn't matter. Didn't matter that night. They outshot him. They were they were they looked like the better team, but it's just like you have the better goalie and goalie Bob was just insane. Not that Skinner played poorly,

but it was it was just an all-time Stanley Cup performance to shut them down and We also got Did you see chicklets? Yep got the Oilers fan the exclusive. I heard she's dating. All right. Yeah I heard so I heard that as well long distance was already the guy in the crowd tonight That was just grabbing his ribs at Luca. It looked like RA, but I did if it was RA He'd just be grabbing his liver like oh

What do you say they asked Missoula about poor thing? Oh, we were talking about hockey and he said zero he's good I just want to update max so all me erase on for this board Zero he's good. I know I am happy. I am happy that he's in that he's not injured Oh, you can all that is that right there? Good I know I am happy I am happy that he's in that he's not injured. Oh Right there. Oh, I'm happy that he's not injured and it still works for the for the board So that all is all as well. He's neither hurt nor injured as well It's the most panicking all as well all is well Everything is fine on there if you want Hank. I don't know that works Do you see the video of him walking into the game tonight?

Yeah, he had like his cup of coffee down on his side and he was it looked like he shit himself He was just doing the the Chipotle walk down the aisle. Yeah He looked like he was going to get a flight after a long weekend in Vegas. Yeah, it's like this is I have to I have to Reassess everything. Um, but yeah, the hockey game was was incredible goalie Bob We also had Mike McDaniels. I'm going to keep calling him Mike McDaniels. People get mad at me that night. I kind of enjoy it. Mike McDaniels got a playoff win because he banged the drum or whatever they do. What do they do? Bang the drum. What they bang the drum. Yes. And the crowd chants, let's

go Panthers. Yeah, they got a drum. Oh, that's good. Also, does he have to update the meeting times now? I don't know why he didn't have number 24 Yeah, yeah 24 just lives in in his brain. Yeah, but uh, yeah, the Panthers looked good. I mean goalie Bob looked good Yeah, I just like saying goalie Bob. Yeah, the peas look they they are gonna be very very tough to beat if goalie Bob does goalie Bob, thanks We deserve at least one of these series to go like the distance or have some iconic moments. Just get us. I don't think it's gonna happen

in the NBA finals to Max Delente. Just get us to the Olympics. Get us as close to the Olympics as possible and then summer's just on fast forward and unfortunately the big reason why we, I know you were really looking forward to cheering on our Olympic team. Oh yeah.

Here's Caitlin Clark. Yes. Unfortunately she's not gonna be on the team so I guess we're not gonna be team. Oh, yeah. Here's Caitlin Clark. Yes. Unfortunately, she's not going to be on the team. So I guess we're not going to be watching. That was true. It's just dumb. It's not smart. OK, so I agree with you.

It is dumb. You have a moment in time where everyone is tuned in to Caitlin Clark. And she is, maybe since like Tebow, in terms of the takes that she, she is just- She generates them, yeah. She didn't say anything, but she just generates takes because people are just angry all the time

about Caitlin Clark. And it's also- I'd say Kaepernick. I think what it is too. That was the last one. But Kaepernick, remember Kaepernick didn't, he wasn't playing. Yeah. Right, so it was kind of the same thing. Remember Kaepernick didn't he wasn't playing. Yeah. Right. So it's

kind of the same thing. Well he was he was playing at the start. No. But then then he he he had the shoulder injury. Most of his takes were after it right after he stopped playing. So it wasn't like new takes. It was the same. Caitlin Clark. It's a new take a new thing that has happened every single day. Yeah. There's an industrial complex right? They're not recycled takes They're just they're new ones about jumping around to each topic. There should there should be a different version of Twitter That's just Caitlin Clark Twitter. Yeah, where it's like, okay, you want to argue about Caitlin Clark? Okay, go here Don't make all of us read it all the time

And I think I think there's a pretty big percentage of the reason why she's not on the team is Just because they didn't want to deal with all the bullshit of people coming out with takes about Caitlin Clark every single day. Which is the dumbest reason ever. It's a dumb reason, not a good basketball reason. This happens in sports when it probably will never happen just like this again because you have a sport in WNBA that's not super, super popular in mainstream. And then you have Caitlin Clark fans show up to it. So it's like, there's a bunch of people

who are Caitlin Clark fans, not WNBA fans. And then you get, it's almost like an earthquake of takes where the two tectonic plates hit each other. Max, you're a plates expert. Yeah. Clean Plate Club. That was crazy. That was a crazy side swipe.

Ah, but it's it's incredible. She's she's an industrial take complex that just keeps churning them off. The only thing I would say, Hank and PFC, I don't know if you agree with this. So dumb to not capitalize on her here. Extra dumb if it was actually veterans on the team saying we didn't want to deal with her because again, this is like if you're trying to grow the sport, this is going to grow the sport. Is it crazy to say though, in a weird way, I think Caitlin Clark might've been a little

bit relieved because she probably wouldn't have played that much. And she, she finally gets a little bit of a break from the take machine and she's been going, going cause like the WNBA, the way it works is they played the whole college season and then she got drafted like two weeks later than she's playing in the WNBA. I feel like this is, I would hate to be, you would hate to be the person on the team that's not getting any minutes and gets talked about more than everyone else Yes, I think that there's a probably a good amount of her. That's like, okay I I'm okay with not going young playing she wants a break

And I think that it's it would be uncomfortable for her if she was over there and all of her teammates were getting asked questions About her as they're winning a gold medal. Yeah, that would be weird Now if you really want to see some fucking takes pop off this summer, this is going to be good. This is going to be good for the internet, just in general, for internet traffic. Brittany Griner gets all the minutes

that Caitlin Clark was supposed to get. Then everyone's pissed off. Then the takes are going to keep going, regardless of whether or not she's there. Is there any chance they lose? No, I don't think so They're minus 1400. Yeah. They haven't lost a game in forever. That would be Take City. Now, I don't even know, I'm not an expert on the roster. Was there a person that was specifically you could point to and say that they shouldn't be on the team? I'm not an expert in women's basketball.

point to and say that they shouldn't be on the team? I'm not an expert in women's basketball. Maybe Diana Taurasi. I don't know. I don't know if she's still good, but I do know that this would be, I think, her sixth gold medal. So she gets it up. Which would be crazy.

Yeah, right. So she would get in. And then I feel bad. For the first time in my life, I felt bad for Christian Leightner today. Yeah. Because he started to get trending online because everybody was like, well, you can always bring the best college player like when we got Christian late in her on the dream team. Yeah. And everyone was Shaq was still everyone said at the time it should have been Shaq. Yeah, the it's it's just interest. There's any one player of the year. Yeah, there's a championship or Duke boy. Shut up. The fact that there is an interesting that I asked that question because there's an interesting dynamic going

on. I don't know if she deserved to be on the team in terms of playing, right? I know she deserves to be on the team in terms of if you're trying to grow the sport, she should be on the team. But it is very funny to me if she didn't, if you could make the argument that she didn't deserve to be on the team just by, just, uh, that there's a group of people who normally would be anti participation trophy now saying, put her on the team just because of who she is. Also USA basketball, their goal isn't to get eyeballs. The goal is just to win the gold

medal and that's right. That's pretty much it. So I don't know if it was, if it's players on the team or if it's the people that are in charge of the roster makeup, but, um but I would not be surprised if they were just like, I don't want to deal with the Caitlin Clark shit. Yeah, they should should be on the team though, just because it would be good for the sport. But again, I honestly think that if you hit Caitlin Clark with true serum, she's like that. That's a little bit of a relief because I would just would have been a whirlwind. And I wouldn't if she if she was on the team and playing, then it then it then

yeah, it makes sense. Like she she would want to be on the team. But if she's on the team, and she's not getting any minutes, that would suck. Beyond belief. What if she shows up once the WNBA kicks back in and she just like cuts her hair dyes it. She's got like short blonde hair now. You know what she should do? She's Italian. If you have any amount of Italian in you you can get the Italian passport She should play for team Italy. I'd be very valid fucking rock. What if she won she won and played for team Italy I don't know if they're in it. All right, so the 12 teams they would they would let her in yeah They should just make an exception. The second favorite is China plus 2000. We're gonna fuck China up.

She became if she became Chinese. Yeah, but should we be rooting against the US just for the takes? Well, yeah for the show. You're right. She's a take machine. She's incredible. All right. Other things we got to talk about. Let me see. I had a list. Um, is Dan Hurley going to go to the Lakers? We're going to find out today. Yeah. Okay, you have to say. He's gonna make an announcement today. One way or the other. Which is it gonna be? Because right now Vegas has him going to the Lakers.

I think he's plus 300 to stay at UConn. I think he is going to stay at UConn. The fact that it's taken this long and that he made an announcement like, okay, I'm gonna make my decision on Monday, it feels to me like it's gonna be a a hype video. Yeah, I'm back. I'm back. And he's also going to get a crazy contract and he can essentially this is the course of Dan Hurley's career. He's going to stay probably winning another couple more. And then he's, he's, he's kind of told you con fans like, I do want to eventually go to the NBA

So when it when it happens five six years down the line it won't hurt as much as it would have hurt right now This is a dream scenario for Dan Hurley if he was just trying to get a raise Yeah Like does it the way that the last three months of shaken out has been incredible from the Kentucky job opening up to the LA Lakers Job opening up. That's like the best one that he could ever have. Yep. Just drive up his value. So of course, if he does go back to UConn,

and that's the plan all along, of course you're going to say, yeah, I'm very interested in this Lakers job. They made a very compelling offer to me, knowing that your AD is back at home like, shit, I got to double the check now. Yeah. And think about the recruiting when he can just be like, yeah, I turned on the Lakers because I love I love

UConn so much. Yeah, come win a national title. He's an East Coast guy He's gonna take the next job in like five six years. That would not surprise me. Yeah, like that. Why wouldn't you wait if you? unless you think that I Definitely don't think Dan Hurley suffers from imposter syndrome But you have to assume even if you don't win another national title, you're going to be in the mix every single year, because winning national titles is hard. He will still get the pick of the litter when it comes to whatever job he wants. And if he wants the next job and he wants to stay close, not the Tibbs on the hot seat,

but five years from now, it could be Dan Hurley. It could happen. Yeah. I want him to stay, but also it'd be very fun if he went to the NBA. So Hank, what do you think? Lakers. Oh, you think he's going to go? Yeah. Why? You have any inside sources? I don't have any inside sources. Billy Football reported that he was going to the Lakers? He texted the three of us on Saturday and said, I just found out, I ran into the Hurleys in LA and I got inside source that he's going to the Lakers. Which was basically, I think he asked and one of like, they made a face or something. Yeah, one of them shushed him.

And then he said, it means nothing. They probably were like, Billy, we're having a conversation. Please. Billy must think he gets tips all the time from people that are just telling him to be quiet. Yeah, or just looking at him. Winking. Yeah.

Stop talking to him. He's like, oh. Oh, I got him. Something's up. Yeah. So then he texted us that and said, please do not share. I don't want anyone to know. And then Hank even said that before he could even read the text Billy had tweeted saying Dan

Hurley the Lakers confirmed by me with a graphic me. Yeah. Yeah He also has a 50-50 chance of getting it correct and he's gonna be like I reported it first if he writes and then material Change if not anything crazy. Yeah, but as Billy giveth he taketh away if he does get this one wrong At least he got us Vanny woodhead. Yeah, that's true Vanny woodhead is what it now in our possession. Yeah big time. Who's back? It's got a lot of who's back you couldn't yeah you well I could see it on Hank's face He Hank Hank's who's back is no different than than Steve Carell and anchorman Whatever is in in front of his face right before we start recording is this who's back?

He's gonna be like who's back the Washington commanders correct you would be right about that max going or staying there's zero chance he goes to the lake all right well you're doing this is an emotional hedge this is smart zero very smart by the more I said this I think I said this to you I said the exact same thing that PFT just said was he's the hype video is going to be a crazy, I'm not fucking leaving. It might be the best hype video ever. It's going to be, he's the man of theater and he's very good at it. I love that he went to Billy Joel at Madison Square Garden last night, or yeah, Saturday

night because you can basically play it. It's a choose your own adventure. Like he loves he loves being a Northeast guy so much. This is the most Northeast guy thing to do. He's staying or be like he's saying goodbye to the Mecca and to Billy Joel. Well he did go on last worry his assistant. Yeah that'd be very I don't know what that means either. It would be very funny if he did plan that out as like a goodbye to New York. He's like I'm gonna do one more Billy Joel concert. Don't know what that means. Yeah, this is my so long farewell Yeah, so he's he's staying max. Oh Yeah, like oh, yeah, there's he's he's good. He's good. He's he's good for the dramatics. He's

He's gonna fucking make me very upset to be a villain of a basketball fan for a long time and that's not changing tomorrow I just tweeted a poll who breaks the news wode shams Hurley himself for the field who I think woad Billy it would be Billy yeah no that'll be her or I like video that's going to be a hype video Yeah, but I think woge might get a little beat him. Yeah beat the hype video by like three minutes Yeah, he probably has Hurley's hype video guy on retainer like that guy as he's as he's producing the video is gonna give woge a Heads up. Yeah, he's got a sleeper Rossine will not have this was it may

Fanta like Fanta could fancy Fanta. that'd be great for him. It's a good Alright, let's do who's back the week so that we don't take anything else that Hank was gonna talk about Hank look around the room you find something You got something. I got something. Alright, who's back the week's brought to you by our friends at game time Game time is the number one ticketing app of Barstool Sports. You know you can get tickets to, let's find some- Game Five? Yeah, let's find some Game Five.

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Fuck work day. Yeah, fuck his work. Yeah, Hank doesn't even know what a work day. Oh, hey, I'm a fan of work day That's like your head of work day. That's a Hank golf sark day. Yeah. Well tomorrow is a golf workday. That's like your big fan of workday. That's a Hank golf Sark day. Yeah. Well tomorrow is a golf workday. Yeah. He almost choked. I had better and I figured it was the one time I bet him he was somehow going to choke more car charge late. He buried 18. He's one I think basically every tournament except for when he got arrested and when he had a baby. I think his last 12 weeks, he's won seven. I think, I think he's five out of a lot. I think five or seven.

How many Jake? He's five of eight. I saw that. He did have his baby on him today. His baby. Yeah. His baby was there. He keeps that thing on him. He keeps it on him. Yeah. You never know. You'd rather, you want a good guy with a baby instead of a bad guy with a yeah first one going into pinehairs this week major week It's kind of cool. We were there in the summer five of eight and The three he didn't win two t2s and a t8. Jesus Christ saying his world

It's not is it what are his odds for the plus 300? Oh my god. I think I saw something it's He's a bigger favorite than the Mavs are to win this series. She's 150 other people in this tournament. Is that good? We're gonna have a US Open preview on Wednesday. Oh, do you see detective Gillis's pants? Maybe yes, they showed his pants there. It was like torn on his butt So it still could have been that he shit and he shit so hard that he blew out his pants It was a horrific image. Yeah, see and knee? Those pants. Yeah, he had a scrape. Imagine taking a shower after you get that? He had the very definition of a boo-boo. Yeah. Like if he went to a doctor and they're like,

I need you to diagnose me for the police file after Scottie Scheffler dragged me with his car, the doctor would come back and be like yes, sir You have a grade one boo-boo. Would you like me to kiss it? We could put a band-aid on it, even though it's not bleeding Yeah, this boo-boo and make you feel better does us being a pioneer so I saw her do anything for you guys Oh, it does so much. Oh, yeah, I mean just we didn't play the course. They're playing we were there We walked on a little bit if I'd played the US Open course, I would be feeling yes very I saw it We were on the third fairway rigs his house. Yeah

Didn't play it though didn't walk on it. All right, just a question It does a lot for me. Does it do anything for you? Sounds like it does a lot for you cool He's not a pioneer. So I was just I was just a pioneers Not really though. Yeah, we played the wasn't it wasn't mine first Yeah, but we were in the pilot. We're saying the hotel the history of the staff anytime you're around you Yeah, it's cool. Okay. It's kind of like when you like fly into a city as a connection You're like have you ever been to X and it's like well, I've been in the airport You haven't really been to that city, right? Mm-hmm Like if they played the US Open on on our basketball court, I'd be like, this is fucking sick.

I know this course. I'm excited. I'm excited just for golf. I'm excited for golf for the sport. I don't know what the course is going to look like. I is pine forest. Is it notoriously difficult? Yeah. Yeah. Very difficult. Okay. All U.S. opens. Well the last I mean if I hallowed just got its shit push that was in U.S. open U.S. and they make sure Marion was easy. I just know because it's close to where I'm from. OK. They're known for the turtle shell greens. So pretty much it's a podcast. Mr. Pear. Yeah. Use your hand. Use your. Yeah. Use your. Use your yeah use your use your words it's like a bowl it's like an upside down bowl yeah it just yeah it's just

like a little like a helmet that sounds difficult yeah that sounds very difficult I'm excited for the pines no mid pines is where they're playing and pines where we played okay pine hearse number two to pine are number two and we played pine are number one we played thishurst number one. We played mid-bass Oh shit, so we didn't play the other course that pinehurst has had like seven Wait, so we We didn't even play one of the seven. No, we were supposed to okay. We basically played pinehurst number eight We just were in we were near pinehurst. We're at the hotel. There was a pine tree

What would the hotel they're gonna be staying at some guy. Yeah, some guys will definitely stay there Okay, by the way, I was so wrong Marion. It was a plus one the winner. Yeah, I mean the US opens always like that So they do I this is our week to root for the court. Yeah, I am rooting hard I want some I want the the winning score to be plus territory. Yeah And we need we need one of our guys to win Brooks We Bryson I think this is it for Bryson if Bryson comes and wears remember he used to wear the scally cap. Yeah, Payne Stewart. Mm-hmm. I Could see it happening. Oh as it called call my shot right now as a homaged and Stewart a bet him Yeah, Hank tells me Bryson's back every week though. He's great. He's great. Hank would know he's our live correspondent

Yeah, that's true. How do you do this? It was a tough week for live to be honest the the leaderboard was so bad Really? How can it possibly be bad because they only have so many top guys and it was like Patrick Reed Brooks played Okay, but can I say the guy who won? It's like I never heard of my life Can I say something too about Liv and and I know your big live head? John Rom got hurt Something about getting hurt while wearing shorts. It was sad. When you're golfing? Yeah, it was just sad to watch. It just didn't feel like a real golf injury. Well, I'd say just in general, getting hurt while golfing. He doesn't look good in shorts either, John Rahm. He's got a big body. Right.

And the shorts don't really help. Yeah. OK, your who's back. My who's back of the week is Vince Young. Vince Young's back. Yes. There was a celebrity program that was taking place on the Golf Channel. And they cut it down to do a walk and talk with Vince

while he was on the course. So they talked to Vince about his championship at Texas, his rookie of the year in the NFL, what a great career he's had, what it's like playing golf at a pro-am for the very first time. And it just wasn't Vince Young. It was another black guy. It was a guy named Everett Sands, who's the assistant coach at the Citadel, and they thought he was Vince Young.

And credit to Everett Sands, who handled it like a pro. He was just like, I think you have me confused somebody else. And then he tried to answer the questions very diplomatically. He was like, you know, anytime you're out here playing golf, it's great. Cause you're competing against yourself and against everybody else. Just not answering her questions about Vince young. So she probably thought he was being very rude and not answering the Vince young questions, but turns out it just wasn't Vincent. And this guy didn't look a single thing like Vince young either.

No, he was probably like 510 Maybe like 210 So yeah, tough. Look tough. Look for the golf announcers out there it uh, I kind of like though just you know Interviewing anyone it's that member that guy the f1 guy who's just going up to random celebrities. Yeah, Amy Yeah, she's got all of them wrong or just asking Dana White. What's Joe Rogan stream? Yeah? Yeah shout out sage deal What do you got Hank we text some plans for are you gonna see tiff? She is uh She is Out on vacation. She's not around Dallas this week if it goes to game six then yes with whom is she on vacation her

friends oh yeah what kind of friends guys or girl I don't know I don't really want to put all friends out there to be honest but I don't know I don't know I think just her friends did she ask you no so game six would be on on so now we got a roof for game six and then that's when Max has to go down there and videotape everything Hank does. Oh no. Yeah. Yes. Everything.

Everything. Need you on Hank's hip. Everything. On that hip. Now I'm rooting for a sweep. Okay. My who's back is James Harden. James Harden, very funny video.

He was at a wedding and it looked like his girlfriend caught the bouquet. My who's back is James Harden. James Harden, very funny video. He was at a wedding and it looked like his girlfriend caught the bouquet. Incredible catch. It bounced off six people before it got to her. And James Harden's reaction was so fucking funny when he just had it all hit him that means that he needs to get engaged by law. And I think it was just, it was basically a Rolodex of all the strip clubs going through his brain in that moment. I need to say goodbye to a

lot of people. James Harden, I hope he gets married because he would have the best bachelor party in the history of bachelor parties. It would be, drop whatever you're doing and just try to show up in the same town as he's at. Yeah. It actually would be very similar to the Olympics or the World Cup strip clubs bidding for his bachelor party. Yeah. They would have to put out the offers. And I would hope he would do it where he'd just do an announcement video.

I'm going here. Because I don't think I can name a bigger strip club guy than James Harden. I think he is like number one currently at least But he would have how many how many strip clubs would he go to on a bachelor party? He would probably just live in one. Yeah, I don't know if there is a bigger one future Jersey Jerry Jersey Jerry did give some money to

Back in the day he gave money to a stripper and she just took it and went back to Brazil. That did happen to him. What a nice guy. Yeah. Thought, thought, thought. If you give a stripper money, is there like a binding contract

that she has to stay in the United States? No, no, of course not. But he thought maybe that was gonna be the future and then it just wasn't. Yeah, but James Harden, my who's back of the week, big time who's back. Also just perfect that he's, like the NBA finals are going on.

That's what we get from James Harden. Yep. Oh, also talking tennis? Yeah. Uh, uh, uh. Alcatraz. Alcatraz won. Alcatraz. Uh.

I think Alcatraz is next. He he might be Today he blew that third set and he just dominated foreign is Carlos Alcatraz him Dude, do you see that video of him when he was 12? Yeah, they asked him what he what his dream was like gonna win Wimbledon gonna win The Spanish open. Yeah, and it's open French French open. This is the French open is a French on clay What's the what's the Spanish open? There isn't a Spanish open? I don't think it's just Rafa wins the French open Correct. If there is a Spanish open Rafa has won that too, right? Spanish open. So what is he wanted?

Grand Slam title on every surface now Alcatraz Alcatraz and he beat Zverev who is was going to be next. Oh, maybe yeah but Carlos he's he's for real great position to be great forehand great backhand. Oh great sir great sir. Is this passing the torch. Oh great conditioning. I think conditioning. Jake look this up for me. When was the last time there was a French Open final that didn't have Nadal Federer or Djokovic in it? Well Nadal it's like never Except for like with those three it's got it's gotta be like 15 years Might be even more. Oh, you have to go all the way back to

2023 oh 2023 oh sure really sure I'm gonna keep moaning until you get it check 2009 better and Robin Soderling know Said Federer Federer and the dollar joke dollar joke You guys are distracting me For oh my god I gotta take a shit Gaston passed me the water audio over Guillermo Correa 2004 who could forget hmm

Now you guys have a hack to distract yeah, yeah, it's gotta come Okay, Jake your who's back Don't say My whose backs the College World Series. Oh, ping. We had some crazy storylines from the Super Regionals. The Florida Clemson game today was bonkers. A Clemson player got ejected for celebrating a home run. It's always weird too when in the Super Regionals the host team has to play as the away

team in game two because Florida hit a walk-off on Clemson's field and sent them home even though they're already home but that's a cool moment they weren't home like a walk-off silence the crowd game over yeah you never get that sports you get it right yeah you hit a buzzer beater on the road you could kick a field goal but yeah that was. My inning of the month goes to the Texas A&M, Oregon inning Yeah, yeah, like that was crazy. They were down there were down four runs I think going into it and then it was like walk walk walk hit by pitch grand slam walk hit hit by pitch walk It was crazy cam can arella deserves his his flowers that was an unbelievable ninth inning by him

It sucks at Clemson lost you've always been a college baseball guy first and foremost you just lost so Italian the The behind-the-pitcher camera went out in the ninth tenth and eleventh inning yes, which was insane Yeah, watching a game just from the like an ESPN broadcast on the wide angle behind the plate was one of the more Infuriating things I've ever watched it was torture. It was so bad It's very hard to call balls and strikes with that you can't you you can't watch anything. You couldn't watch a thing You were just like Hoping you just heard what the umpire was saying right? It was so so bad, but yeah college baseball It rocks we got some games today, right? Yeah. I believe there's a few game threes

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You won an Emmy, did you ever think you'd win an Emmy? You know, I didn't, and you know, I actually humble brag amongst friends, obviously just between just the three of us and the 20 million people that watch this. I've actually won two now. Oh, wow. Yeah. So no big deal. But yeah, so I didn't go to the ceremony last year. And so I always

told myself, I'm like, you know, if I ever get nominated again, I'm going to go. Last year was for like breakout, you know, breakout artists, you know, like the equivalent of like, we know and knew who you were. And now we kind of know who you are. So we're going to make that an Emmy category. So it wasn't like a it wasn't amongst with all the big boys but this year I was nominated with all the big ones you know Aikman and Collinsworth and guys that have been obviously doing this at a high level for a long time so my wife and I went to New York and went to the event had really low expectations about whether or not we were gonna win or not and was able to

pull one away. It's incredible. If I had this really cool TEU background, my Emmys are actually behind me. No big deal. Yeah, it's incredible. They gave an Emmy for worst sport coat in a broadcast. And like that's... Oh my God. I knew you could win it. Oh my God.

What? Hold on. Yeah, put it on. Go get it. Hold on. No, no, no. Hold on. Even better.

Oh. I literally almost called you from the Emmys. So, you know, like they call the person who wins and then there's like a little highlight reel and they show like a clip and a picture. When they showed all of the nominees, guess what still photo they used of me at the booth. Yep, that's incredible. Worst coat ever.

Wow. I was wearing the sport coat. I literally laughed out loud. Like the host is like, you know, Troy Aikman, there's like a picture of him next to Joe Buck, Greg Olson. And when they shot to me on the camera, the picture was me in that sport coat. Wow. That's, that might be why you won. You left a lasting image with the, with the voting. I feel like the voters have like a disconnect with mainstream America, you know, like they,

or, or am I a trendsetter? No I would not say trendsetter. How many answers have you seen wearing that type of jacket since you wore it? How many of those people have Emmys? Okay I think a lot of them probably do yeah I think they kind of give Emmys to just about anybody yeah. Have you ever won an Emmys? We have fake ones. Yeah. We bought them on Amazon for like five bucks. So they look pretty cool. Understood. Yeah. Yeah. We weren't technically on TV long enough to get an Emmy. Shortest show ever. Yeah. We should have worked for, for yeah. Best one episode run. Yeah. It was a great episode

though. It was, it was pretty solid, but congratulations. Emmy award winning. I appreciate it. I actually thought of you guys. You were in my heart that day at the award show, because I knew when that sport code came on, I was thinking of you guys. What was your speech like? Did you give an acceptance speech? I did. So I actually, during the day that day, you do the whole, I didn't expect to win, but then everybody has an acceptance speech, which means you at least prepared for the fact that you were going to win. So I actually did write something in the notes of my phone. But, so like there's no podium on the stage.

So there's just like a stick mic, like on a big stand. So you get up and you walk up on stage and shake the guy's hand. He hands you the trophy. He hands you the envelope. So I have that in one hand and then I have my cell phone because I typed my like people I want to make sure I mentioned in my notes. So I'm holding my phone in one hand, my left hand's like full of envelopes and trophy and just stuff, but there's nowhere to set anything down because there's no podium.

My phone turns off, like the screen goes black. So I'm like up there trying to do like face recognition, you know, to open my screen. So it was a complete disaster. So I just made it up on the fly. Everything that I had typed on my phone and the notes, I didn't get to, because I couldn't get my phone to unlock in real, you know, I panicked a little bit on stage.

They should have taken your Emmy away right there. Yeah, there's, we're prepared for the moment. Also, there should be a category for best accidental telestrator penis drawn during a game Yeah, have you ever done that? It's my biggest. It's my biggest fear. Yeah. Yeah booger You saw I think he was the goat at that booger drew some excellent dogs That was a I think some guys do it on purpose. Yeah. Yeah for sure. Yeah, RG 3 I could see him Yes, he absolutely does it. Yeah, RG 3 love yet

But you know like it it always starts when you go like all 22 and everybody wants to show the two highest safeties. Yeah. Yeah. The second you start by circling safeties, if you do any, you have to clear that screen before anything else gets written. That's like, that is rule number one of Telestrator. If you circle two objects, the next button is clear.

Because it doesn't matter if you draw a straight line, a squiggly line, it looks like a dick. We'll find it. It's like a Rorschach test. 100% of the time, it looks like a dick. That was a big month for you. You had two great television events. One was the Emmys, and then the second was The Roast of Tom Brady, which must have been very fun for you to watch. I was a little jealous I didn't get invited. Yeah, you should have gotten invited.

You and Drew Bledsoe could have had a really good talk. Me and Bledsoe, yeah, exactly. Me and Bledsoe could have had like a little moment there. Like, you know, we understand what it's like to lose our jobs. So I felt like we could have both kind of bonded over a glass of red wine and that, but I'll tell you, I didn't want to sit there.

It's one thing for Brady to get paid a couple million bucks to get made fun. That was all in fun. But I thought everybody else on that stage was just like catching strays from all over town. Going in, I was like, man, that would have been cool. And then I was like, I'm thankful that I'm not up there. Who knows what they would have said about me. I would have started crying. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Got to have thick skin. I think so. And obviously, you know, you wish that you were still on the number one broadcast you've you know you said it's like you're human you're a competitive guy I think you're in a great spot though Greg because you proved it that you're so good at it for a couple

years there did a Super Bowl that you now get in that spot where everyone's like it's like the backup quarterback like everyone's like ooh we want him we want him you know it in Chicago especially backup quarterbacks always the most popular guy. I like the, the, you're the people's champ is basically what I'm saying. Yeah. Well, I appreciate that. And no, people have been super cool and the support has been great. And listen, I, I've said it a million times. I haven't shied away from it. I understand why you go out and get Tom Brady, right? If there's anybody in the world that you understand the why,

it doesn't mean that you love it. It doesn't mean you're not disappointed. But you get it. It would take a very self-unaware person to be like, why am I being replaced for Tom Brady? People are like, are you joking? Is that a serious question? So in one regard, I get the why. I get why it's enticing. So I understand the business model and everything going on. For me personally, I want to get back to calling number one games. I want to get back to calling playoff games in front of 60 million. I want to call Super Bowls of 100 plus million. I want to call the only game on town at 425.

That's the national kickoff with 95% of the country have that as their window. So I love those games. I love those marquee games. So we'll see how it all shakes out. There's not many of these jobs. There's not a lot of seats that call playoff games. There's not a lot of seats that call Super Bowls. There's only four. So that's the other issue with this line of work is

a little patience is a big element to it because you can be as good as you want. can like you people could want you but until a seat opens You know, it's kind of out of your control great answer people's champ. That's good. Yeah, we love you And we said at the time when you call the super bowl you gave fox something to think about yeah Tom brady is tom brady But at the end of the day you've proven you can do it and they at least had to have a conversation where it's like I know we have tom brady like literally tom literally Tom Brady, but Greg's really fucking good Yeah, and attractive and he's a very natural. Oh, yeah all natural. Yeah, you're all natural. Are you all natural?

All natural. Yeah. Yeah, he's all natural Hair is real. Yeah, body's real. I got a shave. Yeah Yeah, this is just pizza I got a shave. Yeah. Yeah, this is just pizza, hot dogs, a couple beers, a couple of youth baseball and football practices during the day to get my sweat in and what you see is what you get. Yeah, man, the people Tom Brady never did a rap song. Greg has. You just relate to all demographics. Have you thought about that? How much money, NIL money you would have made in college It had to have been it would have been insane, right?

dude, I think I say so my wife and I went to college together and you know, she was my girlfriend for three of the four years that I was there and obviously saw everything so I was like Could you imagine like when I would get my scholarship check in college? I would get like 1200 bucks a month and I lived in Miami and your rent when you moved off campus, you know, to rent with four other dudes or three other guys, you're probably paying between $500 and $600 a month, you know, $1,500, $1,800 a month rent for a decent house there by campus. It was not cheap. And you know, $500, $600 would go to that and then another $100 in utilities. So you have like $500 left over, $400, $500 left over. First week of college, first week of that month, man,

we're eating that, you know, in our world, you're going for sushi, you're getting nice restaurants. By the end, you're at like the dollar menu at Wendy's. Right. So I told her, I said, could you imagine if at any moment in college, someone gave me $50,000? Right. And some of these guys are making hundreds of thousands to a million. I'm just talking, if you gave me 50 grand, 20 grand in college, I would have been the richest... In my mind, I don't even know how I would have handled having that in my bank account. I'd have a $1,200 in my bank account, and I thought I was the richest guy on campus.

Yeah. Yeah. No, it's true. I personally could relate to that and say I would spend money on the dumbest things possible if you gave me 50 grand at college. 50,000 when you're like 20 years old in college? You're basically a billionaire. I would get like seven jet skis.

It's crazy. Yeah. And now, remember, you're in Miami. Yeah. I mean, you could go to clubs. You can go to bars. I remember it's the stupidest thing I ever bought in college. So good. A buddy of mine I don't know where it originally came from but he bought from someone else like remember when people would change out their like face the screens of their radio.

Oh yeah. It would change on your car plate of like the stock radio. Yes of the car Yeah, you you'd pay like the next thing was then the next phase was they would come out and flip up It was like an external screen. Mm-hmm. You know what I'm talking about Yeah, you and you would you would you would take the screen with you or put it in your glove compartment because people would steal It you would have to yeah. Yeah, exactly like a fake Yeah, exactly right. So so this guy got one of the guys on the team gown is like, Hey, you want to buy this? I'm feeling good. It's summer. I probably got a scholarship check like the day before. I'm like, yeah, I need that in my truck. Like 400 bucks out the window because this guy sells me like this portable doesn't

do anything other than just look sweet popping out of your dashboard. But if you gave me 50 grand, the equivalence to that stupid $400 purchase, I can't even imagine what I would have bought. Neon lighting under the car, the black lights, subwoofers. Oh, that was big. That was big. Oh, I had a subwoofer in college. I mean, in high school I had a subwoofer, so that was, I thought I was cool. But we all kind of went through that. That was like our era. That like our generation where what you spent all your money on like fun things on your car that were you look back on? We're like that was really stupid

I remember but one of my car when I was like maybe been right out of college had six CD changers So it's six nice and hold and I was like this is fucking like I can listen to anything They'll never be able to say six different, I can listen to anything. They'll never be able to say anything. Six different CDs I can go to. And you put them in your visor, and you can put them in your visor storage unit? Yeah, yeah, dude, that rocked. I got spinners for my minivan at one point, spinning hubcaps. I felt like an absolute gangster.

But yeah. So just think, you had 50 grand in college, how nice your spinners would have been. Yeah, they would have been incredible. Insane. Yeah, so just think you had 50 grand in college how nice your spinners would have been. Yeah, it would been incredible It's a yeah, so Titan University very excited for you guys have playing this year Will there be a class that somebody teaches on how to date the most famous woman in the world? yeah, so it's really good question, so we actually had that presentation last year and Travis Travis was paying the most attention and

And seemed to have really taken that class to heart. But Travis coming back, I'm looking forward to seeing him, making sure he hasn't changed. You guys saw it firsthand. It's a super cool event. The fact that it just started from me and Kittle kind of texting and bullshitting after I retired back in 2021 and coming down saying,

come down and work out with some of the guys. And then it turned into 20 guys, 30 guys. And next thing you knew, we had a full on event that, you know, we now had, we had over 80, 85 guys last year. And, you know, obviously we pay for everything and we have unbelievable sponsors that allow, if you couldn't see all my plugs behind me, for any of you actually watching this, um, you know, obviously Charmin's are presenting sponsor cause they love tight ends. You guys understand that? Oh, um, you see how that works? Yeah.

You see how that works? Yeah. So Charmin Bridgestone, we're doing a really cool like girls football camp, like a little flag football camp with Bridgestone and Levi's and Bud Light. So they give us all the, all the, all the sponsorship money allows us to bring all the guys in, put them up. You know, we, we do everything first class from how we feed them to we bring in physical therapists and, uh, Pete, you know, different PTs and chiropractors and do different, you know, kind of medical different things and food parties. We have a concert this year that we're doing Tuesday night.

Well, it should be super cool. We have some really fun guests that were excited to kind of keep a secret until the night of, so it's going to be, um, as you guys know, it's three days of a lot of fun. We got our work done during the day and the morning and during the day. And then at night Nashville is not a bad place for 80 tight ends to let it loose a little bit and have a little fun. Yeah. Is there a guy that showed up last year that took something that he learned at TEU and then went on and

had a breakout career or breakout year afterwards. Yeah, so I think it's been cool. We typically always had the young crop of incoming rookies. So two years ago it was Kyle Pitts and last year, La Porta and Dalton Kincaid who were about to be rookies. They were between draft and their rookie season. So over the last two years we've had those guys, you know, we'd love, you know, I got to actually go back and check. I'm not sure if Bowers, I'd,

we'd love him to come. I have to check on the list and see if he said he's coming or not, but it's really cool to see those young guys. And then, you know, in front of them, a couple, you know, right in their same line, when, you know, guys demonstrating the drill or running the route before them is Travis Kelsey and Darren Waller and you know George Kittle and they're in a full sweat and they're going full speed a hundred miles an hour and then here are these guys saying you know one day I want to be them I want to beat Kittle I want to beat Kelsey I want to date Taylor Swift well you better run

full speed you better practice you better have the intensity when no coaches are out here you're not being judged you're just trying to get. Like for those young guys to see how hard these veterans, these all pros, these guys that everyone just thinks, oh, they've always been the best just because they are. They don't realize how much goes into it. And I think it's very eye-opening for the young guys to just see how much time and thought and effort is put in to why these guys are having Pro Bowl.

And in some case, you know, Hall of Fame type years Years if Brock Bowers does come You got to give him a little tip to just never stand next to Gronk again because Brock Bowers is an incredible tight end he does not give off the same like aura as Gronk in terms of just maybe it's the way it was when he's wearing those black shoes He might need to do something with the hair He cut that short. It was also a lot of us in the media We started talking about Brock Bowers like he was baby Gronk Yeah, and then when he's saying next to Gronk, he does look like baby Gronk No one should stand next to Gronk. Yeah, that should just be a tip at tight end you just don't ever say don't ever get a picture

Next to Gronk because people will be like, oh this guy can't play tight end. Yeah, yeah if you think every tight end out there looks like Gronk and his six, seven, two 65 and threaded and lean, um, that's not the reality. I can tell you that firsthand coming from a guy who played 14 years and did not look like Gronk. Yeah. Um, yeah, you can't wear black cleats that, that, that we should actually, that's a really good idea.

Along with date, the most famous person, we should do a what, like how to dress to look faster than you are white, like tall white guys can not wear black cleats in my opinion, unless you're just like an absolute freak. Yeah. Agree. Yeah. Black shoes with high white socks make you look slow. That's like, that's like one on one. So white cleats, light color cleats always make you look faster than you are. And for a lot of these, uh, six, five tight ends, that is good. That's really good advice. We're going to get back to Greg in a second. As everyone knows,

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whatever your thing is, it all starts with a Chevy truck. Check it out now, go to chevy.com. And now, here's more Greg. So, not to get like nerdy football, but I'm sure you've thought about this and I'm wondering if you maybe you're going to bring it up in tight end you, but the banning of the hip drop tackle. I actually think that will help tight ends more than any other position because the basis

of the hip drop tackle is when you have a guy who's way bigger than you and you're trying to slow his moment momentum down and bring him down, like undersized, cornerback, safeties, trying to take a tight end down in space. Do you agree that tight ends should benefit from no more hip drop tackles where it's just that much harder to bring these weird freaks where they're too much bigger than a lot of the secondary and they're, you know, they can take a linebacker. Do you think that's going to help tight ends? Yeah. I mean, I can't tell you the amount of guys I've seen blow out their ankles, their knees, break their legs on the hit drop. And, you know, selfishly when we were playing,

you know, if it wasn't a rule, you know, it's like when they changed the rule that you couldn't hit defenseless receivers. When I came in the league, you could, and you better be in a real good place with your quarterback and you better be really aware of where everybody is and you got to be real smart or else you're going to run yourself and the ball or the ball is going to be thrown and get you in a lot of danger. When that got taken off the table, your fears go down. You're a little bit more free. You're a little bit more well, you know, it's easier because you don't have that in the back of your head.

Like, hey, I got to protect myself because you know this guy, he can kill you, but at least there's going to be a punishment to prevent him from killing you a second time. The same thing now with the hip drop tackle, but on the other side of that, now that I'm out of the game and I'm just like looking at it from both sides, I'm not exactly sure how they expect some of these guys to tackle.

Yeah. You know, I think you're going to have a lot of guys going low. I think you're going to have a lot of guys taking shots to I think you're going to have a lot of guys taking shots to the knees and the legs to try to kind of knife you down. You're not going to tackle Gronk and Kittle and these guys up at their shoulder pads. You're just not, it's just physics are what they are. You know, you're, you're 205 and they're two 65. It's just, it's not going to happen. So yeah,

I think these defenders every year that these rules get put into place, it becomes harder to play defense and I'm an offensive guy. I get that. I don't envy the position that they're in, but I do understand the idea is you don't want George Kittle and Christian McCaffrey and you know, Gronk in his day. Like you don't want those guys getting knocked out of the game for those kinds of tackles and putting them in harm's way. You want these guys on the field playing the league is better when our stars are

healthy. So I get the rules that the method behind them and the, and the idea behind them. I understand, but I don't envy defensive players. I think it is becoming more and more difficult every year to play defense. Um, and, but that's the rules of the game. It's an offensive driven league. They want points, they want scoring, they want passing, and they want their best players to be healthy.

They don't want injuries. They don't want to be the league where by the end of the year, it looks like an infirmary. That's not good for anyone. Yeah. I also think that this is- Why they do it? The hip drop tackle is a rule where the offense actually has a say in how they get hit. So they could bait themselves into getting hip drop tackled

If you see a guy coming towards you just turn around twerk real quick Just stick that ass out and then get that as the target and then boom next thing, you know 15 yards easily It's gonna be very very challenging to officiate it I think and to determine whether or not it was intent for them to hit from the back and then drop down I feel like this is gonna be a rule that're going to get very angry about in about three weeks of actual gameplay. Yes. And the twerking part is an interesting is an interesting angle. But I think what's inevitable is at some point there's going to be a critical drive that on third down they throw a drag route underneath short of the first down and

some DB or linebackers going to grab him from behind. He's going to hip drop tackle him. He's just going to say, I got to get them on the ground and they're going to celebrate. And all of a sudden the flag is going to come in. It's going to be a personal foul and the drive is going to be extended and they're going to go down to score and win the game. I mean, it's going to happen at some point that it's going to be a game altering no different than how many drives have we seen in critical moments?

Pass, fall, incomplete, and then that late flag come and it's a hit to the head. You know, defenseless receiver, automatic personal foul first down and the drive continues. So it's going to happen. It's going to be controversy on Monday morning that a game is going to be viewed as being decided by is the right. Is it the right call? Is it the wrong call? And then the next level is, is it the right rule or is it the wrong rule? There's like two, there's two levels to it. The interpretation of whether it's a foul or not is one. And then just on a bigger level, should this have even been a foul to begin with or should we just say, Hey, get them on the ground, however you can. This is big boy football. You know, I can make an argument both ways.

Yeah. It's going to give fans an additional like three seconds after every play to be like wait wait wait maybe there's a flag maybe there's a flag that like moment of hope when you get bailed out by something one thing that you guys do a great job of you kind of undersell at TEU is you have good you have great quarterbacks that come to throw balls and just hang out so last year I think there was I know Josh Josh was there. He was throwing some balls. Sam Darnold. I forget who else was there. Who's on your list of quarterbacks? Trey Lance. Trey Lance was there. Zach Wilson was there. You said Josh, Sam. Yeah, so we've had some good quarterbacks over the years. I think a lot of those guys are coming back this

year. And what I think is cool for especially the young tight ends and you see it with a guy like Kittle and Kelsey and some of these guys and Gronk with Brady in their day. Like the rapport and understanding that it's not what we want to do, right? We're the end of the equation, right? We want to get the ball thrown to us and how do you do that? You got to be, the quarterback's got to be on the same page and all those cliches that we all hear.

So it's cool, we would let, hey Josh Allen, Josh, tell them what you're looking for. What's good body language? What's good indicators? Like, what is a friendly target in and out of the break look like? And say, hey, the reason Kelsey gets a million balls thrown is because Mahomes knows exactly what he's gonna do.

He knows what every little head nod, every little mannerism, he knows what he's seeing and they're seeing the game through the same set of eyes. Like I think for these young guys it's not about what you want to run, it's not how you see the defense, you need to see it through the eyes of the quarterback. That's your responsibility. So let's hear what the quarterbacks have to say. Like let's listen when Josh Allen's telling you this is what I'm looking for, you better listen. Like this guy, this guy knows what he's doing. So I think that's a, not just an arm to throw the ball, you know, we can get anybody to do that. I think the perspective of a lot of these quarterbacks to share with tight ends, like how the quarterback

sees the game is all that matters. It's, it's our job to match how we see it with them. Yeah. Yeah. I want to give you credit by the the way. You went on Pat Bev and Rone's show, and you said that the transition from sports to media is harder than people think. So I'm just going to, I read that, and all I took from it is it's really hard to be in the media and do the job that we do. So thank you for that.

Right. Yeah. You're welcome. Yeah. Harder than being an athlete? I think it's different, right? I think any think any and listen you guys obviously do it at the and I'm not just telling you this to Kiss your ass you guys know obviously you're really good and thank you the most popular thing out there You kiss my ass. Yeah, it's my ass

So I already wiped with Charmin so you're good to go Well done. Nice. Well done. The Charmin folks are thrilled. Yes. Very well done. You're a professional. I think the part that people don't realize, right? I mean, we were talking about it from the perspective of like, Hey, you hang your cleats up, your shoes up, you're done playing. And everyone just assumes, all right, the most realistic thing is you either become a coach or you just all of a sudden get a microphone and you go tell everybody about what's happening. But on a global level, the media world, like it's very hard in today's world. I mean, you guys do it on a daily basis to break through what's a very complicated media landscape, especially in the world of sports, right? Like what makes what you guys say any more interesting

than the other 10,000 sports pods or just, you know, current events or just fun guys on the internet, they're a dime a dozen, right? So it's, it's finding your alley. It's finding your voice. It's finding a way to cut through all of the noise that's out there. And people go, of all the people I can choose with my time of all the people that I can listen to, of all the podcasts I can listen to on the train into New York City or in my commute in Chicago or whatever.

I get an hour of my morning. I could pick from a million different places. I'm going to pick PMT or I'm going to pick Bev or whatever it is like to find that lane and to be the people that be the voice and the person that people look to and seek out. I'm curious what you think. Like I think people think that that's everybody. And the reality is it's not. and the person that people look to and seek out, I'm curious what you think. I think people think that that's everybody, and the reality is it's not. There's a lot of really smart people

that have interesting things to say, and it's hard to find that voice to cut through in today's world where you can get information at every corner, and most of it's bad. Yeah, yeah, I mean, you're absolutely right. The competition is there. It's higher than it's ever been. And the fact that there are so many options out there. That is also where I always come back to. And I hate when people, successful people just completely

minimize what luck had to do with their success. Because I think what you just described and maybe our success is a lot of luck. We got very lucky the right time time when podcasting wasn't as big when it was with there was that niche of like Where can we find a podcast that doesn't take sports too seriously if you try to replicate it today? It'd be a lot harder So I I always take a step back and yeah people like oh you really touted I we got very lucky we We got very, very lucky. It's a combo of luck and pissing your pants and eating horse shit on camera.

I think if you can get those three together in one place, that hits all the bases. Yeah, and remember, and again, not to get super cliche and hang a bunch of banners in the weight room with fun sayings, but there is an element that, yeah, luck, 100%. A lot of life is being right place, right time and having right situations unfold. But like certain people tend to be lucky because they're constantly prepared.

They're constantly ready for that moment. Then all of a sudden that right moment does flip and it clicks, right? But how many people aren't prepared for those moments, haven't put the work in, haven't studied the craft, haven't built their voice or whatever the industry is. And that moment came, but they never even knew it. And it came and it went, and it was just poof, it was gone in thin air. So yeah, you gotta have people believe in you,

you gotta have people that give you opportunities. I mean, that was the case with me. I mean, it was 2017 and Fox was kind enough to ask me to call a three-man booth with Kevin Burkhart and Charles Davis-man booth with with Kevin Burkhart and Charles Davis and oh yeah Kevin Burkhart and I knew each other since I was 15 years old because he used to cover my high school football games as like a young aspiring journalist because he went to college in my hometown and he worked for like the local AM radio

station that did Friday night high school football. So yeah I was very comfortable stepping into a live broadcast for the first time with a guy that I had known for 10 years and knew him since I was a young kid in high school. Yeah, that was very lucky. It could have been anybody under the world and maybe we don't have that rapport. Maybe it doesn't get a click that I get asked to come back

and do it in 2019 again. And then obviously go on to do it in my career. So yeah, you're right. I mean, there's a lot of elements to all this that are outside of our control. All we can do is be good. Success is just be good. Yeah. Yeah. Be good. Yeah. And also show up every day. That was, that was one thing we learned very quickly is that if you, the consistency of delivering something to people is, is half the battle. Cause if you, if you, a lot of people want to start a podcast and then you don't do it, you update it once a week

for a month and then the next month comes, oh, I missed an episode. Okay, that, I have in my mind, every time, we don't really, I mean, we don't miss episodes, but even on Memorial Day, we did two episodes that week instead of three. It's sick, it's absolutely sick in my head. Even on Memorial Day, we did two episodes that week instead of three. It's sick.

It's absolutely sick in my head. But I'm thinking we might have lost a couple listeners because there was a Wednesday where we weren't there. That's sick. I need to go to therapy. But you have to feel that way. Yeah, but I need to go to therapy. Remember, there's a lot of overlap between this.

Success in any industry, again, this is just one guy's opinion. I'm not the smartest guy in the room, but success in any industry, there is an element that your greatest asset to being successful also is a greatest detriment in your normal life. The obsessive nature of excelling and the excessive nature is I can't take a pot off. Yes, I'm number one. I've been the most watched sports podcast for five years. You don't have to do any on Memorial Day, but the fear that you're living in a constant threat of, I don't want to be

three and the next year we miss and we go to five is no different than what great players go through. You worry every single year you're on your, you've just made your third, fourth pro bowl. You've just signed your third contract extension. And the next morning you're like, I wonder if they're going to draft a tight end. They draft a tight end. I'm going to fucking kill them. I'm going to be at OTAs. I'm going to kill like that's what it takes.

And that's that's not a you know, that's not like a secret formula. Just very few people are willing to live their lives like that every single day. Because as you said, it's sick. It's exhausting, it takes a toll on your life, but guess what? It's a really good formula for being successful. Yeah. Also, I just miss talking sports with the boys. If we don't have a show for a week, if we take our vacation in the summertime, stuff happens in sports, I'm like, damn, I really wish I was here to make fun of Hank for that. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Maybe we're a little bit sick, but that's fine.

Oh, I know I'm sick. Talking sports with the boys is the best, man. That's what it's all about. It is. Yeah. That's a great quote card. It really is. So you also touched on the NFL-NBA debate that's engrossing America. So let me ask you, do you think it's easier for NFL analysts to transition to the NBA announcing or for NBA analysts to transition to the NFL? Good question. That's a really good question. That might be the best. Really. That might to the NFL. Good question. That's a really good question. That might be the best question. That might be the best question I've ever been asked. Ever been asked.

Holy shit. Let's go. Put it in the trophy case. The ass kissing. Oh God, the internet is going to go bananas. So all right. So all right, here's my honest answer. And the football people were not happy with my, when

I was on with Bev and Rhone. And I said like, maybe not 30 Austin rivers might've been out over skis a little bit with 30, but for football people to not think that there's, I think the number we said there was like 10 seems realistic. We could probably come up with 10 names that could play in the NFL just on just their athletic freaking freakism. I think an NFL broadcaster could broadcast an NBA game with more understanding and clarity than vice versa. I'd agree. Offenses are too complicated. Defense is too complicated in the NFL. Remember, in football, every play is an individual story, right? It's not just like a constant evolve where when,

when again, this is my lame in basketball understanding when I'm watching, you know, when JJ Reddick's who I think is awesome, when he's broadcasting the game and I'm like genuinely listening to what he's saying, cause I think it's fun to learn and whatnot. He's not or the play by play guys not saying like, Hey, down screen, flare screen. Then they run an Iverson cut and then they're going to backdoor pick and roll high, low street. They're not really giving like the play by play exactly because it's happening so fast,

right? They're, they're flowing from offense to defense, from transition to foul in bounds, baseline out of bounds. They're, they're flowing through so many different situations in real time that they're only diving into like the real real specifics of a great baseline out of bounds or a great side out of bounds or the strategy at the end of the game of who to foul who to trap how to get the ball out of their hand really in just like a handful of those moments. And I find that super fascinating to like sit and learn is just like a basketball fan. In football, it's a start and stop, you know,

150 times each, you know, hundred and four each team says the ball 70 times, there's 70 offensive plays, 70 defensive plays, and then flips. So there's just a million different plays that you have to be prepared to explain what the offensive line is doing, why they're sporting pass protection, why the receiver cut his route off, what's the difference between a two shell and a single high shell, man leverage zone. Like I just think there's more need and space to fill in more like football lingo and talk that then there is maybe in a, you know, a constant flowing basketball game that you could kind of fake it a little

bit more. Maybe I'm crazy and maybe the basketball guys are going to think I'm nuts, but that's if I found myself in a basketball game, I think that would be my approach. I think you'd be better than Reggie Miller. I think the other part to this is that a lot of football players did play basketball. not all basketball players played football. Whereas I think there's more of a crossover in that. Maybe I'm way off. No, and I think people are just more familiar with the sport of basketball because,

you know, you go to any local, and again, I'm not saying what's going on at the YMCA. Let me just be very clear here before the NBA people jump over my head here. I'm not suggesting that what's going on with the men's over 40 league at the YMCA in downtown Chicago is NBA basketball. I'm not. I'm just suggesting the fact that it's like golf, right? Like it doesn't mean we could do it. It doesn't mean we're good at it,

but people are more comfortable with playing golf in a tradition, just like a casual sense of exercise and fellowship and social, then they are in like a competitive nature. If you're not, if you're not playing competitive tackle football, you're not playing football. Like you're not doing it on the weekends. Right. People are just more accustomed to basketball and they're playing it. It's just, it's more accessible. I just think it's more accessible. People are just more familiar with the ins and outs of it because more people do it than they do play tackle football.

I'm going to push back real quick. A lot of people play Madden. Oh. A lot of people play Madden. And they understand the timeouts. They understand whether you run a cover two, cover three. I feel like more people play Madden. I think that's a good counter.

I think that's a legitimate. I think you're right. I think the knowledge, especially of young people around football has grown because of how popular and how great Madden is. That's fair. I would love to know how many basketball guys like when I'd be very curious to know like do basketball guys play Madden or are they playing like 2k? I think Madden. Yeah, I think they play Madden. I think NBA jam was the last great basketball game. So that's so, so if you had a basketball guy, what, what Max is very, very, very popular. 2k is very popular. Max said, my kids, my kid, like in my house, obviously Madden is a big deal. Like Madden, our kids get it every year. Who's on the cover, whatever. It's a big deal. Like, Madden, our kids get it every year, who's on the cover, blah, blah, whatever.

It's a big deal. We're a football, like for our whole lives, Madden was the thing. In my house, there is a ton of 2K tournaments when my kids' friends come over. Yeah, we definitely dated ourselves with NBA Jam. That video game was awesome. We'll cut that. We'll cut that. That was popular in like 1996.

We'll cut that. It was a good video game was awesome. That was popular in like 1996. It was a good video game though. Speaking of that- How iconic was it when you could get those secret NBA Jam players into the game? You unlock them? Speaking of Madden, do you ever go back and watch John Madden highlights the best of his announcing? And do you take anything from how he would call a football game? I never have. I've obviously seen a million highlights and watched that great documentary they did a couple of years ago on him and Madden, which was ironic

that it was shortly right before he passed. He called, he actually called my first ever touchdown when I was in Chicago. We played up in green Bay on Sunday night football and I caught my first career touchdown pass and he was the Sunday night football announcer. And so I've heard that call over. I mean, I've heard his calls. I grew up with his voice. I mean, Madden, I think Madden 94 is the all time greatest video game ever made. That was the Madden game. Like, I don't even know if I got 95 and 96. Like it was Madden 94 and NHL 94. Like those were the two games that we wore out growing up. But his voice, video games, calling my games, just watching games in my life,

I've heard a million of his calls. I've never really gone back and studied anybody. I don't really like it. I watch games now, you know, the Thursday night games and the Sunday night games when I'm home, Monday night football when I'm home, I watch and listen to other announcers and you know, you pick up little things about how they come in and out of breaks and how they use the telly and just different comments that you're making. Okay. Yeah, that was really smart.

Or I don't know if I would have said that like you're, it's no different than when I was playing. I'd only watch the tight end. Um, but I think you have to be careful going back and trying to like recreate the magic of a guy like John Madden because I just don't know if anybody can. I think you put yourself in a position where you end up sounding stupid. Yeah, yeah. It's true.

He is a legend. A legend's legend. When he would just say like boom or bam. Yeah. Sometimes something that simple just gets a point across. Yeah. All right. So Greg, I had one last question, rowback question. R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com, promo

code TAKE. 20% off your first purchase. Q's, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rowback.com, promo code TAKE. They have swimsuits too. It's summertime. Last question, and a little personal question, but how's TJ doing? Your son? Oh, he's doing awesome. He actually yesterday, or actually today's the six two days ago, Tuesday. He celebrated his three year heart anniversary of his transplant. Incredible. So super so good timing on the question. And he's doing awesome, man. It's hard to believe he's been three years. So he was eight when he had his trans heart transplant. And he's 11. He'll be 12 in the fall. So that's awesome. He's doing awesome. He's playing

summer baseball and getting big and strong and running around. Yeah, he's, he's been through a lot. But these last three years have been the best his his life post transplant is remarkably better than his life was pre post his his first eight years of his life were a challenge. He he had he was ups and downs almost on a daily basis. Since his transplant, knock on wood, I don't want to jinx it, his life is remarkably better. It's pretty incredible what they can do.

I mean, they literally took his heart out and threw it in the garbage and just put a new one in and just say like, all right, here we go. Let's start all over again. Yeah. And you're just like, what? Yeah. It's pretty crazy. But yeah, I appreciate you asking. He's doing great. That's awesome. Three years great to hear

Yeah, one last last question. Just do you top fives? Can you do your top five Titans in the NFL right now? Right now current. Yeah So kiddo and Kelsey obviously are the they're the top two Obviously, they're the top two. So you say Kittle, Kittle first, Kittle one? I think, I mean, it's hard, obviously, just personally being buddies with them. It's hard to pick one. I've said on record during games and now I think Kelsey's

like one or two more years of what he's done. You know, a thousand yards. I know he came up a little short last year because he didn't play the last game, but thousand yards, what he does in the postseason, if he wins another Super Bowl, I don't even need, he has to win another Superbowl. If he has that thousand yard ish production another year or two, I never thought this would be possible.

I think Gonzales, I always thought Gonzales would kind of stand alone just from a production standpoint of what he was able to accomplish for so long. But I think Kelsey becomes the first one who enters into that, you know, maybe even more than like, I mean, Gronk was on that trajectory, maybe just didn't play long enough to like get those stats and get that production and longevity. But Kelsey's production and longevity is now getting into that like Tony Gonzalez era, which I don't think anyone thought was ever going to be duplicated. So I think I'd have to go with Kelsey, although he's asked to do a very different thing than Kittle is.

They're in complete polar opposites of the position from a scheme standpoint, but those guys are for sure the top two. I really like Sam Laporta in the Lions. I'm not saying he's three. I'm just gaming guys that are in my top five. I'd have to sort the order out. Who else? I've always loved Mark Andrews.

I know he had a tough year. He was banged up last year. Who else? I've always loved Mark Andrews. I know he had a tough year. He was banged up last year. Who else? Give me some other throw out some other names. I'll tell you through my top five. Can Kate. They're close though. They're getting there.

Otter. Hawkinson. I like Goddard. I think Goddard's I think he's special. He's so damn big. Yeah, I would say Goddard. I think Goddard's I think he's special. He's so damn big. Yeah, I would say Goddard's probably in my five. He doesn't get that like gross production that everyone else does, which I know everyone's obsessed with because, you know, he's got AJ Brown

and Devante Smith and they're going to take a lot of the targets in a lot of the yardage. But I think Goddard when you like watch him play run game pass pro passing game. Yeah, he's definitely a top five guy in my mind. David Joku was incredible down the stretch. He was awesome last year. I always thought Darren Waller like Raiders Darren Waller before he got hurt in New York last year and everything like pre injured Raiders top of his game Darren Waller I thought was he was sick and Joku fellow Miami guy had an unbelievable year that That guy never has a shirt on. And if I didn't, if I looked like him, I don't think I would have a shirt on either.

Fire move is good. Yeah. I don't, you know, top five is that's, that's tall company. You know, you start getting with the likes of those names. We just mentioned that's tall company, but I think we're in like one of the greatest eras of tight ends in a long time. Right. I think we got stars. And then we also have like a young generation of guys where it seems like

every contending team has a tight end. And if you don't have one, you're probably not a contending team. Like that's kind of what it feels like. And I think we're just going to see that tight end position just continue to become a bigger and bigger storyline. I think what's cool now for young kids in high school, when I came out, like Shockey was the cool tight end, right? He was just finishing up at Miami. He got drafted to the Giants. He was cool. He's at nightclubs.

He was like a star, star tight end, right? I mean, we had Gonzalez and Witten and Gates and those guys, Shannon Sharp, who were all timers, but like Shockey made the position like mainstream and fun in New York City, at least in my generation, it was, it felt like that. Kelsey and Kittle and like, these guys now are stars, not just amongst the tight ends, amongst any positions,

you know, and I think it makes it a lot cooler and a lot more like, yeah, I'm willing, I'm a six four kid that's gotten too tall to play running back in high school, or I'm too slow of a wide receiver, but I'm pretty. I'm a six, four kid that's gotten too tall to play running back in high school, or I'm too slow of a wide receiver, but I'm pretty long and can run. It's cool to be a tight end now, and I think the position is benefiting from it.

Yeah, yeah, I agree. All right, Greg, tight end you. Very excited to see what comes out of it. We love having you on. We love you. Also, little spin zone. Now that you're doing the two game on Fox, maybe you'll be in Chicago

a little bit more. Dude that a lot of you got to find the positives and we get a couple get a couple Friday night Saturday night dinners. Yes. Cocktails. Yes. And it's probably this year because we're going to be we're going to be Super Bowl. We might win the Super Bowl this year.

So the next year we'd be but this year we got a chance. Yeah we'll just we'll just take one year at a time You never know what the future brings and because remember it's all it's about talking football with the boys. Yeah Yeah, exactly. You guys should sell that that should be a PMT sure on the website Well, I would like to invite you to dude fest. We're in the works of putting it together So you're more than invited to that that would actually be nice That look like what it tell me. Tell me what that entails. Guys being dudes. Yeah. It should be a festival where dudes, no chicks allowed, just bunch of dudes show up. And then we have a stage and dudes can like shit. Like we're going to do a topless contest, but it's scars.

So it's just like a bunch of dudes showing their scars and we like rank them. It's just like a bunch of guys being dudes. Yeah. Like you come up, you'd be like, Hey, I got a presentation. And then you come up and your presentation is literally just like an old jacked up clip. And then we all just cheer and we're like, fuck yes. Yeah. Love it. I mean, talking football with the boys, that's, that's the center of life. So that sounds right up my alley. Yeah. Maybe we do like one where it's just have a catch with Greg Olson. Yeah. And just you get to like five guys get to just throw a ball back. Yeah mic'd up. We just see what they talk about. Yeah, I love that I don't hate that at all. Okay. All right. Well Greg you're the best. We love you, man. Thank you so much I appreciate you guys. You're the best look forward to seeing you guys when I come to Chicago

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Mr.. Pairs been red hot To know Okay Great I got him I got him a new log, but he's been good with hockey right can we talk about that? We've got to just gloss over Vanny woodhead. Yeah Oh, yeah, we're gonna run that you kind of you kind of you well we've we've known he was coming back I feel like the big Vanny woodhead moment was when we got that text message from Billy while we were live that day And he was like it still

Exists, but that was so like I still you know if you asked me that day if we would ever see Vanity Woodhead again I'd say no. Right. It looks awesome. Yeah. It looks from the outside just like we left it on the inside there's significantly more rat poop than there used to be there. Yeah it's I'm excited we're gonna pimp it out we're gonna make it awesome we're gonna

do stuff with Vananny Woodhead. Fanny Woodhead's back. We should probably go, we should probably pick a random game that we go to every year. That would be sick. I've talked to you guys about how badly I wanna go to just one game at Fog Allen, a college basketball game.

That would rock if we hopped in Fanny Woodhead and just drove to Kansas like that's what we should do oh we should go a tornado chasing in Kansas yeah we should yeah twisters coming out this summer max can be play the role of Buddha Ben and cry yeah that's cute yeah I'm excited what do you want to say I I'm I'm ex was that in Fannie Woodhead yeah that was the was in Vaney Woodhead. Outside of Cincinnati. That was the funniest. Driving through Ohio, there were two tornadoes. We saw one of the funnel clouds and I think Buda Ben called his mom. Yeah, he did. He called his mom on me.

Yeah, I do love Buda Ben though. I do too. He's the best. Uh, I'm excited about Vaney Woodhead being back. It's more that, like I said, the moment that we found out that he was still alive was the crazy moment to me. Now, getting him back functional is a lot. It's gonna take a lot. You don't realize... No, I do.

I don't think you do. I do. As a car guy, there's a lot that goes into repairing a car like that. As someone who's very good friends with a car guy, I can concur. Yeah. I was working all day on the El Camino on Friday I feel like I learned a lot. What does that mean? I popped the hood And then I stared at it and I started I started pulling some of the wires and then I'll tell you why here's here's what my Entire move was because I thought about this because I don't know shit about cars

I was thinking that if I'm working on a sick-ass car on the side of the road Eventually a car guy is gonna come by you're right I was thinking that if I'm working on a sick ass car on the side of the road, eventually a car guy is going to come by. You're right. And he's going to be like, what are you looking at there? Can I give you a hand? And then I'd be like, yes, actually you can just do the entire thing right now. Yeah.

I was hoping for that so badly. It didn't happen. A lot of babes though. A lot of babes. Sweet ride. So who's up and running first, Vanny or Sexy Red? Sexy Red. Vanny is not running for you. I think you think that Vanny needs like new tires

Maybe vacuum with the insides a little no no they're thinking like you want to exhibit to walk We also we also need an engine Vanny needs a new wiring Vanny needs literally everything It doesn't work as I'm key it it needs. Vanny needs literally everything. It doesn't work. Because I'm a key. It, it needs, again, Vanny needs everything, which I'm very excited to get the process going and to see it get everything. But I also understand that this is going to be a very daunting task because we, we agreed that we're doing it ourselves. There's zero chance, zero chance that it should do it ourselves. Just watching YouTube videos. Yeah, zero ourselves.

You could buy an engine. I think even if we like got an actual car guy to work on it, no chance it gets up and running by football season. No, this is a spring 25. Yeah, one year. Yeah. One year from now, Vanny Woodhead is going to be rocking. I'm excited. What's your first step or are you just hoping I'll take the first step? Because this was the reason why Vanny was

scrapped the beginning was I was just paying the insurance every single month and we weren't, it wasn't on the road and it was, I was about to lose my license because it was just like, I don't want to, like where is this car? So are you going to be taking my first step is trying to make some, some marketing and some sales packaging so that we can get some money into Vanny woodhead that we can then spend on fixing it. But I'll, I'm willing to put some of my own money too, but what is the first step? Why don't you- oh, since this is a passion project for you, here's a good first step. Dunk. And you get $20,000 that you can put into Vanny Woodhead. Yeah, that makes sense. You will agree that if you dunk, you'll put that $20,000 into Vanny Woodhead? No, no, I- I- Oh, wow, so I guess you don't really

love Vanny Woodhead. What happens first? Vanny Woodhead no no I I oh wow so I guess you don't really love Vanny woodhead what happens first Vanny woodhead gets driving or Hank dunks if you loved Vanny what he will be up and running if you live for if you've if you if you loved Vanny woodhead you would pledge your money. I'll match well I'm paying for training and I told Donnie I give money. I'm the money that I get from this is I'm still gonna be With taxes and stuff there's what taxes well, yes, I mean yes, we're in yeah with taxes Yeah, I would have to pay taxes on yeah good point on cash. I think so no yeah, definitely no No, Hank definitely would pay taxes for sure. Did you follow your taxes this year? Yeah, but I mean I'm you were gonna pay taxes

I was giving you cash. I don't know how that shit works. They ask you. What? Who asks you? Like on your thing. Oh, I guess they do. They ask you like, have you received cash for dunking? No, you don't have to cut this.

We'll give you 9,999. You can do that as a gift. Then. Oh, true. Yeah. So you're fine. So we just made a dollar. Yeah. So yeah. we're gonna negotiate Hank

All I know is that if I were the one who is gonna dunk and get $20,000 I would definitely put it in the venue. I would split it I go half into Vanity Woodhead than the other half to charity. Yeah, but Hank's not gonna do either So he doesn't love the AWLs. I'll put it in the vano care. Oh, so you will pledge to Vanny woodhead some yeah Why not all get like a one of those little dice cubes. How much can we put you down for right now? 2,000 that's it 2,000 let's bump that up. Let's get it. Let's get to five. Come on. Come on. We can get you to five I'll do five. What is that five? What

is that five getting whatever Vanny woodhead? You're not getting anything back from that. That's $5,000 to the van. Yeah. Can we, can we count on you for five grand? Yeah. But once we get money that goes into it, then I want, I want to get recouped. Well, let's, let's just, we need to, we need to, you got to spend money to make money. You ever heard that? I'm fine with that. All right. So we can count on you for a $5,000 pledge today Yeah, if I get a recoup okay, all right great. Oh, I can't promise the recoup. I just want the pledge Alright pledge. We'll get you a tote bag great

Ten we get home ten. Oh why not five ten you're in for five. I got you from two to five so fast Some old sales tricks right there. Well, yes, I go near fucking Two rich guys. It's hard to hard to say no. You're rich guy. You're driving out II This podcast just rich guys rich guy problems guys talking ball. All right, let's finish up the show Pog I think you're in for the beer games. You can't hear me. I'm ready to go put me in coach. I think we need to, I think that's gotta be our plans. We got to just like, we stack the beer games with like, you guys, you guys should go and then drop out day of and have it just be pug

and memes in your place. Let's get sick I'm down like still show big cat and PFT and all the graphics and then we should just drink beer anyways I hate that I'm such a good friend that I won't drop out, but I want to drop out I Thought about dropping out I did if you dropped out it would it would definitely help push me towards dropping out I've thought about it. You could be the linchpin of dropping out I'll also drop out if you want me to. No, I can't be the first to drop out in this room because I promise will. But if all my boys drop out and we got to do the podcast.

Oh no, like it's not a lie for me to say I am thinking about dropping out. Okay, well when you've thought about it let me know. I'm currently thinking about it right now. I've been thinking about it constantly Yeah, big cat and PFT are both considering Dropping out the beer games and in real small font what it would be like if we will keeps getting mad at me because I said I don't want to go but I'm gonna go is like, can you just stop saying you don't want to go?

It's like but I'm being honest. I do not want to do this, but I'm gonna That's a that's a great friend move. I Don't want to but I'm going to sometimes you gotta do things You don't want to do if like Hank pledging ten thousand dollars to Vanny would if James Harden invites us on the bachelor party I'm not going to be your games James. You have a chance to save us. All right numbers eight 18 20 56 99 pug

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