Pardon My Take - Greg Olsen, Zach LaVine, Knicks Stay Alive, Thunder Win The West Plus We Check In With Thundor and Thunder Princess + Fyre Fest

Episode Date: May 30, 2025

The Knicks have saved the season and we were saved from some crazy takes with no show on Wednesday (00:00:00-00:18:48). The Stanley Cup Final is set and it may be written in the stars for the Oilers to win it this team (00:18:48-00:30:05). Back in studio we talk about the Thunder winning the West, sad Minnesota sports (00:30:05-00:48:33), and we welcome on Thundor and Thunder Princess (00:48:33-01:09:42). Hot Seat/Cool Throne talking Stefon Diggs, getting blocked by Mrs Bing Bong and more (01:09:42-01:41:53). Greg Olsen joins the show to talk TEU, upcoming football season, coaches he likes and tons more (01:41:53-02:26:50). Zach LaVine joins the show to talk playoffs, his golf game, Jim Boyle stories, Kevin Garnett and more (02:26:50-03:05:26). We finish with Fyre Fest of the week including a recap of the Indy trip with Zac (03:05:26-03:45:00).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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We're going back to Indy PFT. And I know we didn't have a show on Wednesday and oh, how everything changes in two days because we had one of the greatest performances in Tyrese Halliburton on Tuesday night with the triple double 15. It says zero turnovers. And then he had a is it a triple single I don't know what you got those yeah yeah the story of the night was that the humble New

Yorkers took the big Sydney and Appalachian shit talk personally yeah they they heard a lot of it in Indy memes got to hear it firsthand and New York had a great game the two sweetest words in the English language. Game six. Yeah, we get another one. I'm excited to see this series go. Now I was willing to trade a shitty game tonight for the possibility of a more meaningful great game later. It wasn't a great game tonight.

The Knicks came out. They had something to prove. It never really felt that close. The Pacers came back a few times here or there, but then Jalen Brunson kind of stepped on their throats in the third quarter. And from that point on it, it felt like the Knicks never they kept their eye on the ball, never really lost control, never really let Indy get close enough to do one of their crazy ass

into the game comebacks. So I'm OK with having a game where there's not a lot of lead changes, not a crazy comeback at the end, as long as it means that maybe in one of the next two games, we might get one of those. Yeah, we get a game this weekend, which we weren't going to have, because we're going to talk about the thunder going to the NBA finals when we get back in studio in a minute. So we now have a game Saturday. We saved another day of inside the NBA, although I'm still confused. I feel like they're doing it next year.

Yeah. Last year was the time when we had a funeral for it when everybody got up and said some nice words and it was very somber affair. But then they announced that ESPN was going to be licensing it. I don't know. NBC is doing the Jordan thing. So inside the NBA will be around. It's just going to be on a different channel, but it's still going to be there. So yeah. So, but I'm happy we get another game. It did feel like the Pacers were kind of going through the channel, but it's still going to be there. Um, so yeah, so, but I'm happy we get another game.

It did feel like the Pacers, uh, we're kind of going through the motion tonight. They shot like shit. Hal Burton. This was a great, uh, actually, you know what? I'll say this. We were lucky. We didn't have a Wednesday show because this, these, these 48 hours were narrative building hours. I S I was consuming sports media. There was the Tyrese Halliburton is a superstar. He's the face of the league. He's you know, next up and Jalen Brunton is a liability and he's, you know, he can't keep him out there because of defense and he's not a winner. And if you just skip the, if we don't do a Wednesday show, which we didn't do, it all kind of evens out because Hal Burton was not good tonight. He was bad tonight. And this is kind of the knock on him is that he has nights like Tuesday, which are out of this world's good, uh, you know, complete engine to an offense and does everything correct. And then you have nights

like tonight where he doesn't really, you like, can't really tell that he's out there. And Jalen Brunson had a night like tonight where he's like, there's no way we're losing this game. So narrative flipped, but we don't get old takes exposed because we never had a narrative on Wednesday. It's pretty good. You're right. I was ready to get real reckless with the takes because I was listening.

I was listening to all the sports media. I was listening to every show and hearing what they were having to say. People saying that he's just too small to win basketball games. Yup. Like we're forgetting that we're in the, we're in the Eastern conference finals. Correct. And in large part due to Jalen Brunson's play in the playoffs, he's been really,

really good. Of course, like he's not the best defender in the world, but that's okay. A lot of players don't play that great defense. Uh, but we were buried as a society. We buried Jalen Brunson in the last two days. I'll even give you, I'll give you a sneak peek as to one thing I was going to say if they had lost tonight, just to kick the conversation to higher gear. I was getting ready to ask the question, were the Dallas Mavericks also correct to let Jaylen Brunson walk in low ball and met a $55

million offer. And is Nico just the smartest GM in the history of the world for letting both Jalen Brunson and Luca get out of town? I was ready to get that spinning up. But again, we didn't have a show. So luckily I never said that. I was going to get reckless as well. On the other side, I was going to say,

is Tyrese Halberton the best player in the Eastern Conference, not named Yanis? But I didn't, I didn't say any of that. So we're good. Is it, but it's, it's an interesting thought to have. I think we might have the conversation at some point, but then he had, he does, he does this. So again, he's still very young player and it's not like I'm saying he's bad, but he, I think to take that next step, you can't have nights like tonight. You know what I mean? Like he's got to be consistently and he does do so much even if he's not scoring. That's why he's so great. What was the stat that you told me when I came in on Wednesday, something about it was so, so this, I love this stat.

I wish I think it was, I think I might get this person wrong. I think it was Todd Whitehead. Uh, and he does like weird analytics and stuff and he's very good follow. I'm going to try to find it, but he, uh, he had a stat, which was basically like, Hey, if you miss football, let me just give you this stat. Yeah. His name's Todd Whitehead on, uh, Twitter and he does a cool stat. So on Tuesday night, if you took Tyrese Halliburton's entire performance and made him a QB on Tuesday night, he threw 77 passes for 444 yards with zero interceptions, 77 passes, 444 yards, zero interceptions. He had 15 assists, zero

turnovers on Tuesday night. That's tech numbers. Yeah. It was basically like, Hey, this is what it must feel like to be mansplained to because I saw this stat and I was like, Oh, no, that's sick. Yeah. Now you, now I really understand just how, how hard that was to do. Like I watched it and it was incredible. But now, yeah, I mean, if he was a football player, he should have played football. Yes. 77 passes, zero picks. But yeah, tonight he just, I just feel like the Pacers as a whole kind of went into tonight being like, we can, we can just win this game with a little half effort. Uh, and the next like, no, we're not, we're not going out this way. And I, I respect the hell out of that by the next, like, you don't know what's going to happen game six.

You don't have a game seven. But you to not lose it tonight is big because you don't want to lose. You don't lose for one on your home court. Yeah. Yeah. And that's not going to work against Tibbs if you half ass it because they're

going to lose their entire ass. They're going to play a little bit of booty ball. Also credit to Tibbs. He the bench he's using his bench. He's like, Hey, maybe I can just throw some of these guys out there and let them go balls to the wall on defense and not worry about, you know, like, Hey, they're, they might get some, some fouls, but that's okay. Like, you know, uh, Laidry Shamett, Dillon, right? These guys are actually playing real minutes now, 10, 14 minutes. Uh, good job by, by Tibbs. Like, Hey, throw some guys out there,

throw some more guys at him. It was also kind of a sneaky thing that he did. Uh, cause I think Josh Hart started on the bench, right? But he's still got 34 minutes. That's what he's been doing. He's done. He does. Josh Hart starts on the bench, sits for five minutes, and then plays the rest of the game. Yeah. And he's like, see, same thing. Yeah, I'm using my bench. Yeah. Um I I just I went down a little uh I went down a little rabbit

hole tonight because I'm fascinated with Mitchell Robinson and I don't know how much you know about this guy personally. Like what what he's like off the court. Yeah. He's the man. He's the most country dude that you'll ever meet in your entire life. Guess how many dogs Mitchell Robinson has. He's got to have like 20. He's got 18 dogs. Okay, you know, it's 18 dogs. I think a dozen of those dogs are Rottweilers. So so massive respect. He's got like a million trucks, pickup trucks, and they are when I say their trucks, he actually owns monster trucks, like his personal trucks that he uses to drive around in in this indistinguishable for monster trucks. If you go on his Tik Tok page, it's

all trucks, dogs, fishing, country songs, and then bigger trucks. I think, I think we've been looking for the next big country for a long time. I think it's just been Mitchell Robinson the whole time. Can I ask a question about the 18 dogs? And I want to do this carefully. We're all dog people here except Matt. Well, Max has a dog now. Hank's actually the only one who's not a dog person. Yeah, fact. That is absolutely insane.

Your mic stinks. Your mic stinks. No, my mic's the best mic. No, your mic stinks right now. It blew out all of our ears. Hey, guess what? The people listening, this is going to be the best mic. Oh, your mic stinks right now. It blew out all of our ears. Hey, guess what? The people listening there. This is going to be the best mic. Oh, okay. Wanna bet? Uh yes, I

forgot that you have it. I forgot you have a dog now. I'm sorry, Billy. Shout out Billy. Um the investor, Billy football. Uh so, Hank's the only one who's not a dog person here but as dog guys, PFT, max pug, uh, if you have 18 dogs yep. And one of them passes away is that can't be the same sadness, right? Like it's still sad, but that's a lot of dog. Like, can you keep track of all those dogs? Even I think even if you have 18 dogs, if it's, if it's one of the,

one of the older ones, I think like they each get their time in the sun. Like when they're puppy, obviously they get a lot of shine. When they're middle-aged dogs, you kind of forget about them. Then when they're veteran dogs, the ones that like King Charles, the alpha male dog, which I'm obsessed with the Chinese dog that just regulates on everybody, the dogs get a chance to prove themselves to be special. And then by the time that dog gets old, if it passes away, it's a sad occasion. That's true. But 18 is a lot to keep. Like if you saw 18 dogs in a backyard, you wouldn't be able to be like, that's 18 dogs right away. Cause they're running around like you, it would take you a while to count them. But if I saw 18 dogs in somebody's

backyard, I would immediately think whoever lives there is a fantastic rebounder. Absolutely. That's a big rebound guy move. By the way, I'm saying this in that I'm saying almost as a positive that like Mitchell Robinson might have found a way to not feel like the immense sadness of a dog passing is like if you have 18 of them, it might take it down. Like I'm not saying it's not sad. It might take it from like 100% sadness to like 95% sadness, and that might be

a good strategy. I would think that an older dog above the age of like nine, you feel that same sadness. But if it's like a middle aged dog that passes away, you feel sad, but you're like, you know what? Next dog up 17 more talks. Yeah, so many dogs. That's an awesome amount of dogs for an English word to have. It really is. Speaking, hey, listen, Max, I'm saying that's something nice about you, because you just blew out

all of our eardrums with your great mic. And I know he's going to do some weird editing tricks, so he's going to make it sound awesome. It's just we are recording it separately through our actual studio. It was loud for everyone. Hank's doing a little bit. Max. Congratulations. You won our first basket challenge with DraftKings. The NBA playoffs are almost over. It's about to get wild high stakes drama insane buzzer beaters

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Good job. So congratulations Max. $5,000 free bet. Good job. Yeah, no. We were pretty bad at this throughout the entire playoffs. None of you guys hit one of them. Yeah. Which made it slightly, slightly easier for me. Taking the congratulations back. Listen, the first basket is meaningless in these playoffs. The last basket. That's where's where your money's point. Great point But yeah, five thousand dollar free bet. I'm splitting it With a very hard-working behind-the-scenes guy quigs here

So we're gonna put out a parlay probably next week around sometime. I'm excited for it. Love it. Love it Memes quickly and we're gonna talk about the indie trip during firefests of Zach How are we feeling? Are we have it? Do we have a percentage on on like Nix being back and can win this series? I feel good right now. The paces are really good after watching them in person. That was like one of the greatest shooting performances and I mean their fans are incredible except that one woman. The most important

part when you're down 31 is just that your team doesn't quit. And that's all you could ask for. And you just keep keep hoping they don't quit and just keep fighting till the very end. I agree with you. I think it was unnecessary to take a shot at John Cougar Mellon camp like that, but I agree with the rest of it. Fair point. I agree with John, though. I and I accept his apology. Okay. Okay. Um I hope I hope we go seven. Seven will be Monday night, right? Yeah. Seven would be great. I I would

like to see I'd like to see some crazy comebacks. I I think this series has been awesome to watch. There's been great basketball. So, I I'm at the point where now the more basketball, the better. Yeah. The mecca seven in the Mecca would be. Yes. And that's what I was saying the other night about like the rooting for it. Like it's Mario Kart. We in the last 48 hours or 24 hours, we've lost both conference finals in the, in hockey, and we lost the Western conference rounds. We needed this to keep going.

Otherwise you're going to be stuck with no playoff sports this weekend and just sitting there waiting for the finals to start on Thursday. So good job. Good job. Nicks give us one more game. Yeah, what means you're thinking theoretically if the NBA is rigged wouldn't you want a game seven in the Eastern Conference finals? Yes. Yeah. so why not just do it? Well, so NBA's rigged you want the Knicks in the finals?

Yeah, I feel like game seven you you pull the rigged back and you just let him go at it got it What what will be will be yeah game six you call in Scott Foster? Yes, it's game seven your services are no longer needed. No, it's just let it let him fight to the death. Yeah The NBA is definitely gonna call Scott Foster game six, right? We can agree on that I would imagine also shout out to the Knicks fan I saw this posted someone sent it to me a Knicks fan bought a Paid a witch on Etsy to cast a spell to help the Knicks win tonight. Uh, is that, is that Blake? That's

Blake. Uh, that's okay. What's up, Blake? Uh, shout out that fan takes everyone. We're going to get to it with Thunder and, and, and Thunder princess, but like a Knicks fan buying a witch, which is spell on Etsy for $8 and 48 cents. That could have been the difference. So do we have any proof that there was actually a witch involved or somebody just said that they showed the receipt on Etsy. That to me seems like you're cheaping out on your witches. Yeah, you might have to, you might have to up your witch game.

I'd agree. I'd agree. But I think you need to go visit death. Oh, I have a feeling death might be dead. Is there a chance death is dead? She was a real she was a real witch. She was. We'll never die.

Yeah. Yeah, she seems like some make over like. Yeah, you're right. Hank's right. I can see it. Hank, when you're right, you're right. Yeah. Right. She, yep. She gave COVID vibe four years before I knew something was up and hang with COVID. Uh, all right. Uh, Stanley Cup final. We're here. Rematch last year. Awesome. I'm so excited for this. Oilers, Panthers, best two teams. Panthers finish off the Hurricanes on Wednesday night. Oilers finish off the Stars tonight. And the Oilers have been on fire. So they started

their series. I think it was the first series of the entire playoffs 02 against the Kings and since then they're 12 and 2 uh of 25 gold differential plus 25 and Skinner's been awesome and their power play has been awesome. And now the question is Can you beat the Panthers who have looked every bit of dominant? Uh, even obviously going seven against the Leafs, but they absolutely throttled the hurricane and they're relentless. Yes, Ike.

The Oilers touched the trophy. So, okay. They touched the Campbell. Was it the Campbell Cup? Yeah, they did. They didn't last year. You never do. Sidney Crosby did the same thing.

08-09. Didn't touch it. 08. Lost in the Cup final. the same thing. 0809 didn't touch it. 08 lost in the in the cup final touch it. 091. I got it. I got a fun little stat for you. Can you name the last three Stanley Cup finals rematches including this one? We'll count this one as the most recent one. So you just said one of them Bruins plus. Oh yeah. The penguins red wings. Penguins red wings, yep.

Penguins red wings. Not Bruins blackhawks? Nope. No. Hold on, hold on. Rangers. The lightning didn't play, the lightning played, who did the lightning? It's a meaningful stat. It's it's gotta be farther

back, right? It's a meaningful stat. Devils. I'll just say no no hold on hold on. Okay. Give me one more second. How far back? Do you want me to give you the most recent one is is Red Wings Penguins, correct? That is correct. Yeah. Devil's Avalanche. Nope. No. Oilers. Yeah. Oilers Islanders. Oilers Islanders. Yeah. Red Ski lost the first time and then second year one. Yeah. Crosby loses the first time to the Red Wings second time comes back

and wins now. McDavid loses to the Panthers the first time second time. I think I like the Oilers boys. Oh, I think I absolutely do. I think it's coming home. Yeah, I agree. They're going to be and they have home ice. I like the others as well. Now, the only thing that makes me nervous about the Panthers is, one, they're very good at hockey, which should be noted. Two, they have been ordering blizzards before the game and eating them in between periods.

OK, interesting. Yeah. Got some analytics you don't get in the stat department I got Panthers on I saw there was wait. Do they have Dairy Queens in Canada? Oh Good, I know they got Tim Hortons good question. So they got a steel one without the DQ Blizzard Yeah, this is a big good question It looks like they do have Dairy Queens in Canada. OK, and even did so. This is from Katie Engelson.

I can confirm the Panthers group that went to Dairy Queen the night before. Game two went to Dairy Queen last night before game five so they go the night before and then also I saw Marshaun had one in between periods the other night, so. That's tough. OK, I'm looking at a map of Edmonton Sean had one in between periods the other night. So that's tough.

OK, I'm looking at a map of Edmonton. You're saying that's tough in the way like the kids say it, right, big cat? That's tough in the fact that if you tell me there's a team powered by Dairy Queen, I'm going to be like, that team is unstoppable. Yeah, no, that's what the kids say when you wear a cool like, oh, that's tough.

That's tough. That's tough. Them getting blizzards is tough. That's tough. That's tough. I'm getting blizzards is tough. That's tough. I'm seeing at least 17 Dairy Queen locations in Edmonton right now. Listen, Edmonton, everybody in town has to be behind this effort. Yeah. From, from the guys who are out there on the ice, the people that are cleaning the blizzard machine. Do not sell blizzards to the Florida Panthers. Don't do it. It's that simple. Can't do it. You have to ask them and

they have to tell you if they're members of their member of the Panthers organization. Otherwise it's entrapment and that's against the law. Don't sell Dairy Queen to anybody that sounds American for Canadians only. You know the Canadians can't do that. It's too nice that. Too nice. I love that about them. Because you can't rob someone a blizzard. I still think it's I think it's the Oilers. I'm going to I agree with you.

I'm rooting. We won't tell Whitney this who hopefully we'll have on next week. But I am rooting for McDavid. I mean, we like to fuck with Whitney. But. And then it is perfect because we can root for McDavid. I mean, we like to fuck with Whitney, but And then it is perfect because we can root for McDavid and if he loses we can just be like we're right Yeah, we just shouldn't have doubted ourselves Yeah, he tricked us again

My my my only crime was listening to the mob the woke mob convinced me to to root for mcjesus. Yeah He tricked us again. We thought it was his year. Yeah, all right. I like this storyline, though. And I like, Hank, do you, I mean, the fact that Crosby did it, 08, 09, does that not make it a little bit better? Yeah, it does.

I figured there had to be a reason. I was pretty shocked watching the celebration. Yeah. OK. Do we have anything else? Ovechkin pre-retired. He pre-tired for like two hours today. Oh. So the Washington Capitals sent out an email to season ticket holders asking to renew.

And they said this is Alex Ovechkin's last season playing at the NHL. And so everybody was like, what the fuck? He hadn't announced that or anything. Is this how they're telling us? And then everybody was asking about it. And the capitalists had to send out another email being like, the person that wrote that email actually had no knowledge whatsoever. They just put that in there to try to get people to buy tickets. So to their knowledge, he has not made a

decision on whether or not last year will be his last year. Okay, but I do like that by that guy. It's a good move to sell tickets. Great move. Great move to sell tickets. Also, next Monday's part of my tape will be the last part of my take that we ever do. So make sure to tune in. Yeah. Yeah. Also, Brian shot and armor said that Dak Prescott is in the development phase of okay, maybe his football career. So let's all give him a little slack. Just let him develop a little bit more. He needs more

time. He needs more time to progress. He's 31 year old developing quarterback. Yeah, I mean, Dak, I think Dak is the most who we think he is quarterback in the NFL. We've been dead right about Dak. Oh yeah. At his best, like he will throw five touchdowns against some shitty teams. Yeah. And he'll light it up.

But because he meets the road, we know what's up with Dak. Even if you think about like other, like Patrick Mahomes, like he could get, he could get bad somehow for a year. He'd be like, Whoa, we didn't see that coming. There's nothing that's going to surprise us with that. I've never been more right about anything in my life than I have been my entire life about Dak Prescott. He's going to put up good stats. There'll be a stretch where everyone's like, hey, the Cowboys are this is different this year and then

the playoffs. Good guy though. Great guy. 17-peth quarterback. Favorite color gray. Hey, wait. You had a stat you wanted to give me. And I like I did have an NFL stat. Yes. Thank you for reminding me. You said you teased me with it. It was such a tease. I was like we were like, uh, like middle schoolers with a crush on each other. I walked into the studio and pfts like I got a stat stat for you, but I'm going to save it for the show. And I was like, tell me now. Okay. So it's like something that we have to maybe put a future on. And, um, the guy that he DM me the first stat and he said, remember when that guy gave big cat to Tarek Scoobel envelope, this is my version of that. Uh, but then I went and I added to the stat a little bit. So I think this comes from the ovies and gigolo podcast. I'm probably butchering that name. They seem like nice guys seem like they've got a good podcast. They

were talking about the Panthers. They're big Carolina Panthers fans in the NFL. And they said in the 2002 college football season, Ohio State wins the national championship. That same year, the Carolina Panthers have a losing record. The Panthers opened the next season by playing the Jacksonville Jaguars and they go to the Super Bowl. In 2014, Ohio State wins the national championship. The Panthers have a losing record.

The very next year, the Panthers open up with the Jaguars and the Panthers go to the Super Bowl. 2024, Ohio State wins the national championship. The Panthers have a losing record. Next year, 2025, the Panthers open up with the Jacksonville Jaguars again. Yep. This feels like it's written in the start. Now I went, I did a little bit more research because I thought to myself those years, 2002, 2014, sound familiar in a certain way that matched up with 2024. Also in 2002, Jennifer Lopez filed for divorce from Chris Judd.

2014, Jennifer Lopez filed for divorce from Chris Judd. 2014, Jennifer Lopez filed for divorce from Mark Anthony. 2024, Jennifer Lopez files for divorce from Ben Affleck. Wow. It seems like the Carolina Panthers are gonna be the Super Bowl. Okay, so we just gotta pick them to win the NFC. Yep. Easy. I think this is how you make the money. Yeah, that's

nobody else's thing about. Bryce Young takes the next step. This is this is great. I'm in. I'm in and it's gonna be it's gonna look terrible, but we're gonna ride it like it's gonna be we week five will be like, why do we believe this? But then week 15 we're like, yeah, fuck yeah, we're smart. Just wait. Yeah. I think we have certain future bets that we look at. And every time we're looking at the DraftKings app and we click on my bets, it says,

you've got this one out in the future. We feel great about it. Like, I've just got money that hasn't hit the bank yet. This is going to be one of those bets that's going to feel terrible every time we look at it. Yeah. But then we're going to be laughing of those bets that's going to feel terrible every time we look at it. Yeah, but then we're going to be laughing all the way to the bank. Listen, if the

Panthers aren't doing well, we'll just talk about them a ton on the podcast and get everyone to vote them to the Super Bowl like we do with the Heisman every year. Yeah, that's a great point. Easy peasy. All right, let's kick it to ourselves. We got a lot of show left in this great show. We got Thunder. We got Thunder Princess. We got Greg Olsen. We got Zach Levine. We got Zach talking about the indie trip back in studio. Kick it to ourselves. Okay, before we get to the rest of this show,

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talk about the Oklahoma City Thunder going to the NBA Finals and we're do Hot Seat Cool Throne that will cover a lot of stuff. Yeah on a Friday. Huh? A lot of stuff. By the way Max I did see a few people say that you did not push the button on Thursday. I said, that's my boy, and he knows he's got to push the button because if he doesn't, he's got to get a soul patch. And he's got button issues. Yeah.

He did not forget to push the button. Right. So hot, sea, cool, throw on Friday. But the Oklahoma City Thunder are in the NBA Finals absolutely curb stomped the Timberwolves in game five. Completely like that series wasn't really competitive obviously game four was close and the Timberwolves won game three but the Thunder are significantly better than the Timberwolves. The Thunder I said it last series when I felt like they were like growing up in front of our eyes against the Nuggets. This was a continuation of it

where it's like, yeah, you're going to lose game three when a team goes home down 0-2 and then having that resolve in game four and then taking care of business in game five, this team is so goddamn good. And it all starts with SGA who might be having one of the best seasons. He could be up there with one of the best seasons ever in terms of all the accolades he's putting out there because he won the MVP. He won the scoring title, all NBA first team, 68 wins for his team. They're in the finals. If he completes it, the trophy case is insane. He also is the first NBA MVP to go to the finals since Steph in 2015-16. He has been incredible and this entire team is incredible. Western Conference Finals MVP

as well. I think Magic Johnson put it best. I want to apologize to the Oklahoma City Thunder for underestimating them and not thinking they were ready to compete for a championship. Now he put that out last night at 10 38 p.m. and if you know anything about Irvin Magic Johnson and his Twitter accounts, he does not tweet anything in real time ever. No. He rushed to his phone or to his assistant's phone said I need you to tweet this out right now. I need to take accountability right away for it. The Thunder are very, very scary. They're a scary team. They emasculated the

Timberwolves last night. Emasculate. Nine points. Nine. They neutered the Timberwolves. Yeah. Nine points in the first quarter for the Timberwolves, 23 points in the second quarter. And then they kind of woke up at the end when nobody really expected that it was going to be a game. Some Luca Garza minutes There's some yeah some some guys off the bench got some time scored a few points

Terrence Sharon Shannon jr. Actually was like the one of the only timber wolves players to show up at the end of the series I'll say this as as crazy as the NBA has been this postseason This was the first time when at the end of the first quarter. I actually felt like this game was over Oh, yeah. 26 to nine. It's also the way the Thunder play their defense is they force 21 turnovers on Wednesday night. It was, it just had the vibes after the first quarter of one of those home crowd parties just getting started. We're about to party for the next two and a half hours and yeah, it was, you know, Jalen Williams has played great, played great in this series, you know,

keeps taking steps forward. Chet is a monster. They just have so many guys, guy off and their defense suffocating. They made Anthony Edwards look not great. No, and then the, did you see the converse ad afterwards. They were mocking Anthony Edwards. I still don't really understand that ad because it was an ant crawling around. I was just waiting for someone to step on the end. Like that would have worked in SGA shoes. Like a giant shoe coming to the converse. Yeah. Coming down, crushing the end. But yeah, the Thunder are awesome. They are just an awesome team. I think they're minus 625 right now in the drafting of Sportsbook to win the title. Like this is, it's going to be a tall task

to beat the Thunder in a seven game series. Credit to the Nuggets for taking them to seven games. But yeah, they're, and here's the crazy part about the Thunder and what they've done. And we've, we've alluded to this when we've started the debate of this is maybe the worst Thunder team in their dynasty era, which is just beginning. The Thunder just have like everything in front of them too. They have so many picks. Sam Presti is a pick-a-holic.

He just hoards the picks. He needs Marie Kondo to come over and be like, dude, does this pick give you love? All the picks Give him joy. Does this 2027 second rounder give you meaning? I hope that in future draft lotters, he still has the opportunity to get into the top five. That's just, that's such a nice wrinkle that could pop up from time to time. But yeah, the nuggets have constructed a team almost according to the thunder have constructed blue team almost according to like the perfect blueprint that you could ever have where everything falls into place They're only bad for a couple years too. Like it wasn't I know they tanked a little but it wasn't it's two years

Yeah, it was two years. It was two years that they were you know, they they did the Was it got hurt? That was just out chat was out and they had member they whole, like they told Al Horford, just go away. Yeah. Yeah. And you're like, yeah, we don't want to win any of these games, but here's what the here, I have it listed. Hold on. Uh, here's what the thunder have in the in this year's draft. They have two firsts in, uh, next year's draft. They have two firsts and a second in the 27 draft. They have two firsts and in the 27 draft they have two first and a second and then they're first in the four in the 28th 29th next two years not not counting this one that's about to happen but the next two years who is their other first round pick from that let's find that because that's where

we get good with it that's where it gets real freaky it is it's crazy the team they've constructed is so goddamn good they're well coached they I love love what they're so what their hole is like they don't have a hole I love what their coach said after the game which was their professional their high character their idiots. Yeah. Yeah I like it sounds like a fun team. Do we do those red sox, right? Yeah, the little bow socks a bunch of idiots cowboy up Yeah, the group interviews. How do we feel about that? I'm okay with it. You can do whatever you want that I'm okay with it you can do whatever you want if you win I think you can do whatever you want I think that if you I think it's one of those situations where it's a little goofy if they lose they will get clowned for it but if they win who the fuck cares

yeah I don't even if they lose I don't think people remember that much yeah alright so 2026 they have Dallas or no, sorry. That's the Oh, they have two first round or one first round pick in 2026. I misspoke in 2027. They have their first round pick. Then they had a Denver top five protected first round pick and an LA first round pick swap. I assume that's the Clippers Clippers because they had a pick from the Clippers this year too I think. Yeah. And then they have another Dallas first round pick swap in 2028. It's crazy. So the picks up

Yeah, they have the Sixers pick next year too. Yeah, the Sixers pick next year. Yeah, it's it's nuts. They just have all the picks. All the good job. Good time to be a Thunder fan. Good time to be a Thunder fan good time to be a Thunder fan We're gonna talk to Thunder and Thunder princess I'm so happy for Thunder when they won awesome interview so happy very very old-school PMT just like just get some super fans in a room that we don't even understand all dressed up What's like our hard to track down? Yeah, I have a fact you can debate whether or not. It's a fun fact

It is a fact. It's like a mildly entertaining fact, but it's so mildly entertaining. It might be fun. Okay, so with a thunder They have two players named Jalen Williams on their team Jdub and jwill those are the only two Jalen Williams to ever play in the NBA Wow, and they got both of them It seems like that's a pretty common name, right? Yeah. No, they got the only two. That's crazy. I think that's a mildly mid fact. That's a no, that's a good fact. I like that fact. Borderline wild. That is board. Is it wild to have the only two to play in the NBA on the same team? I would say that is why it's not a nerd nugget. No, nothing can be a nerd. No, it's a wild. It's a wild nut on the wild meter. Okay, sick We should briefly talk about the Timberwolves. That was a sad way to go out body language problems body language problems

Anthony Edwards, I love watching play basketball I didn't love watching him play basketball in this series because he was just bottled up and didn't seem like he was having fun Minnesota sports continue to be, shout out Minnesota sports fans. It's been a very rough go and it continues. They have not won a title in 34 years. They're the longest streak of a city with all four big sports teams.

They also are 0 and 10 in their last Since 1991 in all conference finals, so they get to the conference finals and they lose 127 10 9 30 and 4 sports also is bad. Yeah 127 combined seasons without appearing in a championship game or series. It's tough I I don't really feel that bad for Ant, although like you, I enjoy watching him play basketball. Mike Conley I felt bad for. Yeah. It looked like that was a tough series

for him to get over afterwards. And I want him to do something great. He seems like a good guy. But I mean, the Thunder, there's just no beating them this Bo season. The woo. The woo's are gone. That's right, Hank. That's right. You called it the guy off. I was as much crap as I give SGA just because at times he's annoying to watch. I still think he's an incredible player and he's he is fun to watch when he's not doing the foul baiting stuff. I love this league. He might be the face of this is my favorite part of the NBA calendar where it's like American hero whoever gets to the finals We have to have the debate who's the face of the sleep because this was

Anthony Edwards has been people have been trying to put the face of this league on him and two Western Conference finals for the Timberwolves It's they've been good the last two years. They obviously haven't been to the finals I don't think you can be the face this league without getting to a finals I think might be Caruso so might think he can be the face of this league without getting to a finals. I think it might be Caruso. Caruso might be the face. With Ant, just remember, he's really, really fucking young. Yeah. Like young players don't get to the NBA finals at his age.

He said that, they said, how disappointing is this or something like that? And he was like, it's exciting for me because I get, I'm gonna get so many chances to do this and get better in the off season. You just never know with windows. Hank's looking at me because I get I I'm gonna get so many chances to do this and get better in the offseason You just never know with windows Hanks looking at me like Tatum. Who was the MVP remind me who the MVP of that final? No, they got there should have been before that too When he was even younger

Who should the MVP should have been on that team? He was the pretty sure he's a conference finals and we be that year when they went well It's exceedingly rare that a person as young as ant leads his team to an NBA finals What it's it's a bright future. What are you doing? What are you doing today? What are you doing today? I'll trial trial explain to me what you're doing. This is not are you some this is not an outfit that I would wear to work Normally, I know you look like you're about to sell me some shitty coat I in like a dive bar in London I would wear this out You know maybe on a night out in the town at dinner or something

But I was unsure about it, so I wore to work as a trial and I got good feedback I don't care what you guys say, but the but you know I mean why wouldn't you care the youth the youth and I'm a known or of women of the officer. Oh you look good. I don't know the office. Yeah, are you their boss? No, so you wear clothes to work to impress the women. It's a trial. It was a trial I knew it was I knew was outside of what I normally wear and I knew was gonna spark a reaction I know the people in this office are dickheads and they would tell you straight up like you look weird today What's going on with this? But most people's first reactions like oh, I like it so trial again people successful trial report to you No, and guys too. It kind of looks like Zack Morris like something that that he'd wear on saved by the bell

It off like hooligan that yeah, that's cool. That's a good vibe. Is it you need a bucket hat? Okay? Maybe add that yeah, but yeah, I was trying I knew I assume it's not this is not normally what I would wear in this office Yeah, they match. Oh Each other most times they do know but like the purple purple. Remember when you said that Hank only wears black hoodies Yeah, right. He's trying to change it up. No, I would normally be wearing a black hoodie, but I was like, you know Let's let's try let's get a trial. Yeah, when you got a coupon to bugle boy, you spend all of it How you get the full rack? Yeah

When Old Navy is doing a summer sale you gotta fucking gobble it up It looks good. Thank you. I know it looks good. I know you go boy Oh, you got it you gotta put yourself on Google boy max you look great in a set of bugle boy Yeah, look at that. This is 90s 90 boy. Yeah, look at that. This is Bugle boy It's a great name. I'm in on the name of bugle. Yes. He just did the inglorious bastards three For our age what he said if you go boy ever looked up like what no bugle boy that no shit I made a no. I know I know I know I'm joking

Yeah, it's it's but yeah, you look good. Thank you. You look this bugle boy looks fire Bugle boy was fire. Look at this Hey get it Get it see Get it Hank. Yeah Okay, so Thunder awesome. Yeah, thunder and five against Pacers. I think we need we don't know we're recording this earlier. So what if the Knicks are still in it?

I think Knicks in seven against the thunder, but they're going to sweep the Pacers rate you guys. What do you think about the ratings? Don't care. Are you worried if it's you know, a week off, and then it's two small market teams I am I'm worried that I'm going to have to have a conversation about the ratings at some point in the future am I am I worried about what it means for the game no because you know what that just means that only the real ball heads are gonna watch I the ratings discourse will get

very annoying I think if let's say the Pacers are there, the Pacers are a super fun team to watch play. The Thunder are a fun team to watch play their young stars on both sides. It should be celebrated instead of what people will do and say ratings and this and that. I don't know why you wouldn't want to celebrate it. And it's also two teams that are built the right way and it's not you know superstars teaming up I I think that should be celebrated. But of course there will be the narrative of oh this sucks for ratings The nba's dying. No, I agree and I don't i'm not going to look look it up or find it

but there was a guy that it was like if the pacers win they will be The pacers and thunder will be the first two teams to make it to the finals without having to pay luxury tax Yeah, 16 years. Yeah, which is that's good. That's commendable. Yeah good respect. This is what we say that we want in sports, right? well, it's just weird too because it's it's it's such a it's such a bizarre thing that the NBA deals with and maybe it's just I Don't know if it's where it comes from villainizing the the small market teams but like that doesn't happen in football like Kansas City's not a big market mm-hmm you know what I mean it's just very bizarre that it's just specific Buffalo it's not a big market yeah and

you don't get the same thing I think it's just everyone watches football no matter what and I also think that it's it's gonna be a game for whoever wants the NBA to have bad ratings. They're going to talk about how bad the ratings are. Right. And what would be kind of funny? Cause I think it could, it might be Caitlin Clark's first game back against the sky Chicago that Saturday, June 7th, there will be people comparing the ratings of that game.

I think she's out for that. Cause I saw the tickets for that game, like, to the nose dive. It's definitely big time up in the year. I think that there's an outside chance that would be her first game back. You would see people comparing the NBA Finals rating to the ratings of that game. Yeah.

But personally, I don't care, but it does cross my mind because I'm going to have to see people talk about it. Yeah. Do you guys see that? I think white boy Rick said it perfectly. We've got a we got a fox in the hen house situation with NBA Central Getting into WNBA discourse. Oh, yeah, it is fertile ground. It is He NBA Central tweeted out something that was like since Caitlin Clark's injuries 72 hours ago the WNBA has lost over 30 million Instagram

followers. Yeah I love that. And people were just like what the fuck this is bullshit. It is a fox in the hen house they're not ready for it. No it's it but it's great. It's also just that the entire WNBA discourse so funny when you compare it to the NBA. I saw a meme of it was Anthony Edwards in a wheelchair and I think he had like like special needs and it was like Edwards in a wheelchair. And I think he had like, like special needs. And it was like them roasting how he played in this series. Yeah. And it's-

They turn anybody who loses into Osama bin Laden. The biggest loser of all time. Yeah. But yeah, I'm excited. I'm excited. Okay. Let's, let's talk to Thunder real quick. A little more Thunder love, Thunder and Thunder Princess. And then we'll do hot sequel throne

Okay, we now welcome on two very special guests and potentially a third it is thunder and thunder princess Fresh off winning the Western Conference finals. I see thunder what? Thunder I see you have the finals hat on right now. So of course, I gotta be repping this. Yeah. Going to the final. So I guess congratulations. How you guys were there last night. How awesome was that? It's unbelievable. I mean, the big question is when are you going to come out to OKC and experience the arena for yourselves? Listen, it's I would love to come put on the shirt. I would put that shirt on so fast. Yeah, I would absolutely put the shirt on. So you,

so you guys are in the finals. I guess, can we get the backstory of how you guys became super fans? Because you guys are obviously super fans. Yeah, we've been, we've been doing it. Thunder princess, myself, brick man. We've been, we've been doing it. Thunder princess, myself, brick man. We've been doing it since the very first season. Um, the loves corporation had a ultimate fan competition. And so we all started off as competitors trying to be the ultimate thunder fan. We were enemies. And then we all became friends. It's a beautiful story because ultimately you want the same thing. So you recognize that. With our powers combined, we can actually get this to a good place with the team.

Once we both lost, that's when we became friends. That's smart. Wait, who won? Did Brickman win? No, no. His name is Josh Newby. We call him Thunderhead. And he had a three dimensional head of the logo.

He actually went to the game when my uncle passed, he stepped in for me and was at the game. Wow. Sorry about your uncle passing. So wait, so is he, does he hang out with you guys at the games Thunderhead? Yep. Every time he comes to a game, yes,

but he lives quite a bit South in a town called Adav. So he comes up as much as he can. Unfortunately, they don't let him bring the head in anymore. It's like, you know, NBA rules and regulations, but what we brought it, we got it through. Okay. Okay. We can get you through. All right. I love that. I respect that. Thunder. I was

reading a profile about you last week. And we were talking about you on the podcast. And yes, I heard that. That's very nice. Thank you for doing for giving me a shout out talking about the body positivity My social work things. Yeah, it's a great story and you seem like a good guy So I just want to clarify like when you change into the Thunder outfit Are you still doing that at a gas station on the way? If it's a regular season game and I'm like coming fresh off of work

I'll just take my like shorts and socks and suspenders and I'll just run into a bathroom and I'll come out like carrying my jeans. And so I'm sure everybody thinks I shit my pants, but I'm really just changing into Thunder. You know? Yeah. It's like Superman in his phone booth. Exactly. You got stuff with the loves, you get your changed on, you go out and then here comes Thunder. What about you Thunder Princess? How long is the get up take and what, like, do you go straight from work sometimes to the game?

1000 hours. Okay, check your mouse. Um, I actually live in Orlando now. Oh. So I've been flying back and forth to these games. I was a 13 year season ticket holder prior to moving in 2020. So the process does take a little longer. You know, you know, beat the face.

rhinestones don't happen on the remote. He takes five seconds. I take maybe two and a half hours depending. But yeah, it does, it takes a little bit longer, especially when I have to fly. Yeah. That's dedication. But when I'm getting painted,

it takes about like a good hour and a half to two hours for a paint job Depending on who the artist is how detailed we're gonna be and everything like that Like last night we were cutting it up to the like to tip off of getting finished because we were painting And that was not my fault and somebody took way longer at the house than they should have I have to paint my face every day Yeah house, then they should have. I have to paint my face every day. Yeah.

When we're coming up with what we're putting on the chest and the belly, uh, how often do we use the same slogans? How often do we change it up? Oh my God. There is no repeat belly pain. Are you kidding me? Bad question. We gotta be original every time out the gate always. Um, so it typically kind of goes through like a planning process. you know, if I have an idea, I'll do a sketch

and then I'll send it to the group sometimes. Or if somebody feels like they're really motivated and they have a perfect idea, which to her credit, and Ozzy has had some good ones, you know, we'll send it to the group chat. We'll get it talked about, we'll kind of iron it out. And then in the moment, we can have a perfect idea. But when we start painting painting the idea changes, evolves

and becomes a whole new thing. The main point of the sketch is it always has to have nipples so we know where it goes. Very important. Wait, how many people are in this group text? Nine, currently. Nine now. Can we list them all? Like, and their super fan names? Okay, well you got Matt. Matt's a former Storm Chaser. Like the hype crew for the team. fan names? Okay, well, you got Matt. Matt's a former Storm Chaser.

The hype crew for the team. You got Devin, another former Storm Chaser. You got Josh Thunderhead, the winner of the Ultimate Fan Competition. You got Derrick Brickman, Nausy Thunder Princess, Garrett Thunder. You got Arlen, who has done like five or six

different alter egos throughout the years. You got Gary, which shout out to Gary. This is his first time to really dawn a costume. He's the Caruso look alike in the crowd. Oh yeah. I like that. Yeah. Do we have any, any sneak peeks of what the belly is going to look like in the finals? Cause we're big Caruso fans. So anything Caruso themed we're going to be automatically drawn to. I can tell you that. Well, see, that's the thing like Gary being the Caruso look alike. Now he's, he's more famous than I am. I mean, he gets all the love. Last night and people were like, so is that everyone or is there anyone else? There's thunder Rob. I was about to say, we're not going to forget thunder Rob. Can't forget

thunder Rob. Wait, Alan, did you say had multiple Harlan. Harlan is a, he's done Thunder Doctor. He's done a Chewabaka. He's done Thunder Claws. He's got, he's got alter egos for days. Oh, what is he doing right now? He's Thunder Doctor because he's a doctor in real life. He's a real doctor. He's a neonatologist. Wait, a neonatologist? Yeah. We have a rocket scientist, a neonatologist, a social care worker, eye weight tables. But we got all spectrums here of smarts and talents and we definitely showcase that on and off the court essentially. I love that. That's a group for sure.

It's incredible. And what's Brickman? What does he do by day? He's a rocket scientist. Oh, that's awesome. He's also like the most extreme guy you're going to meet. He is a genius, and he is also called Uncle Mental when he does his bike races.

The dude rode his mountain bike through the Iditarod trail in Alaska. What? Frozen beard, like icicles and coming out of his nose, everything. It was insane. You guys have actual superheroes as super fans. This is awesome. It's pretty crazy. So what do you guys do during games? Or do you have a thing that you're known for during the games, like jinxing the foul shooter, yelling at the opposing coach. What's your bread and butter? So for like the playoffs, I work both sides. So I'll go to the opposing, like they're not going to get away from me in the playoffs. I'm going to heckle you for the full 48 minutes. 94 feet. Yep. Yep. And so, um, you know, I run down the stairs. I give them the I

Get the belly shakes going on whatever I can do to get their attention and then once they lock eyes with me That's what I know. I have them. I can get them to smirk laugh Take a second to squint to see what the hell are you they looking at? Next thing, you know, they're missing a free throw. And that one missed free throw could change the game. It can change the world. No, there's a small percentage chance, but the fact that there's a chance that I can impact a game, I'm going to take that and run with it. I love that. So is there a moment that you remember where you're like, yup,

that's a win for Thunder? He got it. Oh, tons. Yeah, Damian Wilkins, former Thunder player, was playing for the Hawks on New Year's Eve. I had like glitter firework paint jobs on my moves. I had a ball that I would drop up and down during the free throws. Damian Wilkins straight up doubles over in laughter. And the very next free throw he misses. Oh, love it. Earlier, probably the most recent one looking straight up doubles over in laughter and the very next free throw he misses earlier

probably the most recent one that I've gotten to is Paulo Bencaro because I had like a check versus Paulo paint job going on and you see him kind of lean forward trying to read the belly and then he's like, oh, okay. And then he goes to shoot the free throw miss. I think you guys referenced it during one of your podcasts, you know, Chris came in, he was the first person I ever heckled. And I, I was 22. I was nervous. It was my first time being Thunder. And I did not stop. I heckled him when he was on the bench. I heckled him when he was

shooting free throws. He threw a towel over his head. You know, I was calling Chris Caveman. That's probably like the most personal attack I've ever given somebody. That's a personal attack. I try to keep it PG. You know, I try to do just more of the sounds, getting the attention, doing the distractions. But, you know, my apologies, Chris Kamen,

for all the missed free throws that you may have experienced. Kudos to you for being an NBA player. What about you Thunder Princess? What are you doing during the game to get into? When I was full time and not in partial retirement, I would run down there with Garrett every time and we would switch which side of the goal

we'd be standing on. Like he'd be on the left side, I'd be on the right side, then we switch. I did a lot of turning on and I would do booty shaking. I always yell, miss it, break it. I have a real high pitched scream, which is to my advantage in this situation. One time I actually painted my belly too. And it's just a miss on the front and I had it on my back. So when I pulled my shirt up, it

was like miss and then I would be like, shake my booty and it said it. So like now that we're in the finals here, are we like this stakes are getting up there? Are you guys, do you guys have some, some plays that you've held back for like, Hey, if we go deep here, this is going to be, we got, okay, here's the problem guys. I'll be honest. We've tried doing choreographed dancing because nausea is a dancer. I I am NOT I'll lose my I'll lose the movement. I'll forget what I'm doing

But the finals I do have a secret weapon His name is Chase Dryden and he is one of the best belly artists known to man. Oh, he he is awesome Look at this. Oh, wow. Yeah That's in the picture and then yeah, that's one of his very detailed I mean, he's a very good talented artist. We have just talent all over the place here It's so actually the firehouse Art Gallery in Norman, Oklahoma, they actually did an art show that was called Thundor, the art of Chase Dryden.

And so we had all of these belly arts that Chase had done, and they had them mounted all along the wall. And it was a really cool experience. Yeah. I don't know that Indiana or New York can prepare for this. Oh, I know. And I look forward. I would like to, you know, welcome any Indiana or New York Knicks fans to come

to Oklahoma city, come hang out with us. Let's be friendly. You know, I want to win. Sure. But I want to meet some others. I know I'm not the only weirdo out there. You know, I welcome your weird. Come get weird with me.

Let's live our weird together while we cheer on our teams in the final. Yeah. It's pretty cool. So what, tell me about your origin stories as super fans. How did you get into becoming super fans? Mine is going to be different. Prior to the Oklahoma City Thunder arriving in 2008,

I was not a sports fan. I didn't do OU, OSU. We did not have a pro team. And in my mind, I never understood being a diehard fan of a city you don't live in or have any connection to. Of course, everyone was a Dallas fan if you live in Oklahoma because it's the closest or whatever, but I was just like, even when the Hornets came and they spent their two years here, I didn't get attached because like, they're gonna leave. Like, what's the point? Then we got the thunder and I thought,

okay, I'm gonna go to opening night. The mayor's waving the flag, it looks great. And for the first time, I truly felt like our city came together as one. It wasn't OU or OSU, it was everybody in Thunder Blue, and it was amazing. And in that moment, I was like, I love this. I saw the advertisement for the Love's Ultimate Thunder fan. I waited, I think, almost into the very last week to enter,

and at that time, there was only one other female and I wanted to be the most over-the-top girly entity so that's where Thunder Princess came into play. I had a I have all my all my jerseys are custom glittered it says 85 gets my birthday I'm a little older and so I got my big tiara too too. I used to wear heels every single game I am too old for that now but I wanted to be just this girly, you know, entity that other little girls and girls could look up to and be like, yeah, being a sports pan isn't just for the boys. So that's kind of how I fell into it. And then through the competition,

I met my bestie. And you know, I saw the ad as well. I luckily had bought a $5 knockoff Nacho Libre costume just days earlier before the season started. So after that very first game, by the next game, I'm getting all thundered up. I took that jumpsuit. I had my friend who I'm friends with a lot of artists. I went to a university called USAO, the University of Science and Arts of Oklahoma. And so I'm just around all these gifted artists. So I had my friend make like a logo on the chess piece. Another one of my friends who was a cheerleader, I took his megaphone, I wrapped it up in blue and orange tape.

And then I just went and got wild and crazy. So, and now, you know, being Thunder, getting my belly painted pretty regularly, it's just my way to kind of give back to support local artists, put themselves out there, get their names out there. Again, Chase Dryden, great tattoo artist, great artist, great friend. Yeah. And are there any other super fans in the NBA

that you have to take your hat off to and say, hey, Game Respect Game, you're doing a great job too? So absolutely. So I've been wanting to go to all the other arenas and meet all their superfans Now I'm not made of money. So that's really hard to get to do But I did have Spurs Jesus reached out to me in San Antonio. And so during rivalry week last year I got to go out there. We got to you know, shoot the shit hang out. Have a great time He did my belly pink for the game. Oh, wow, and

We just went had ourselves a really good time. Thunder of course one. So that made it that much sweeter, but it was still, he's like, he's a friend now who when the thunder won the game last night, you know, he's one of the first people texting me saying, you know, congrats big man on going to the finals. So I dig that. I love that. And that's why I welcome, you know, whether it's the Pacers or the Knicks, come on, super fans, let's come hang out. Let's kick it in Oklahoma. I'll go to your place. We'll have a good time. Let's, let's do this. Yeah. All right. I got the toughest question.

I'm going to ask you guys. Uh, you might know that it's coming, but we've, we've been talking about how great it is watching these games in Oklahoma city because of the t-shirts and everyone puts on the t-shirt. Obviously you've probably heard about one where Guera doesn't put on the t-shirt. I'm not trying to divide Thunder fans but the guys got to put on the t-shirt. We're winning. Big Cat we're winning. So whatever shirt he wants to wear, whether he wants to wear a tutu, whether he wants to come in his birthday suit, I don't care, as long as the Thunder are winning. But I will say, the way I fan up isn't

the way you're going to fan up. It's the way Juan's going to fan up. We can all fan in our own ways. The biggest thing is we're having a good time, and we're there to support the team and win. He's just a different kind of super. He's he's different shirt guy. Yeah We've talked to him and I've even said maybe for me just wear something with thunder on it It doesn't have to be the color or the shirt just anything

Thunder because that's also what's super important over the course of these playoffs and these conference finals When you look into the crowd of the other team Genuinely, you don't know why those people are even in the building because they're so Like especially the Denver series. I felt like nobody was wearing Denver Nuggets stuff and it's like why are you not wearing? Why are you not supporting your team? You paid the money to enter the door. Why not? You know flash Why are you not supporting your team? You paid the money to enter the door. Why not, you know, flash? I can't explain to you, as someone who's,

I lived in Oklahoma for 35 years before I moved to Orlando. Seeing Oklahoma on anything is incredible to me. And now when I see Thunder fans in the wild, like anywhere outside the city or Oklahoma, I approach every single person. And I just think, why not represent? It thrills me to wear something that says Oklahoma City and OKC every single time. I

yell at every person about it, like, go Thunder, glad to see you out in the wild, fellow Okie, whatever. Even if they're not from Oklahoma, just great to see that representation all around. And if you're not going to wear it in the arena, when are you going to wear it? Yeah. Good point. As you should. Good point. so congratulations. I can't help but root for you guys. Yeah, it's like it's very easy to Get caught up in the action. I hope that you guys have a great rest of your postseason and I guess They're inevitable they just got four more wins to hang that banner baby Yeah, you guys you guys are you guys are what makes sports fun. We love super fans They're inevitable. They just got four more wins to hang that banner, baby. Yeah, you guys are what makes sports fun.

We love SuperFans. Yeah. So my last question was going to be, who do you guys have winning the NBA finals? The Oklahoma City Thunder. Okay. All right. Interesting. Yeah.

That'd be OKC, maybe. I have one last question. I know you said Brickman was on a call. Can we just see him? Is he on the call with said Brickman was on a call can we just see him is he on the call with the Brickman outfit on? Let me go get him real quick. Yeah let's see if you can hunt him down. Or like even yeah the rocket scientist Brickman just even if he stays on the phone if you

just poke his head in I just want to see Brickman. He is here we had a big thunder fan sleepover last night over here at my house. Love it I mean that's a hell of a night to to win Oh, no He's he's Bleeding the meeting and he can't walk. Oh, is he leading it with that brick man head on? Do you want I can show you the brick though? It's it I can hoist it up and show you his honor I'd like to see the brick be nice. like to see the brick. It'd be nice.

It's probably a pretty important work call if you're heading a meeting as a rocket scientist. Yeah, yeah. It's, you know, it's a lot of math involved, anything I hear. When is Thunder Princess's birthday? It is going to be September. She's going to turn 40 this year. All right. She's already made a big deal about it, I promise.

Yeah, don't worry. Hey, Thunder Princess. Oh, look at that. There's the brick. There's the brick. Thunder princess. We're 85 babies as well. So don't worry. Oh, perfect. Yeah, you're good. I'm September 5th. So we're in January. I'll be 40 in July. Oh, you're so, oh, okay. Look at us. Just a bunch of 85 babies fucking crushing life. I mean we really are living the time of our lives. I I thunder as much as I can. I seem I live eight minutes from Epcot. So I just opened Epic Universe last week and I theme park all the time and it's this environment. It's people like this that helped support what I am today. I mean you don't get this eccentric by being

boring and living a boring life. So we've just made sure that no matter what we do, it's just a top levels. Yeah. We go hard for everything. It's okay to be weird. Yeah. And if you're enthusiastic about anything in life, I think you're an interesting person. I love that. Like it's just cool to be, to be like, Hey, this is my passion. Um, so you guys are the best. Uh, we'll have you back on if you win the championship. All right. Not if that was great. Well, maybe if when, okay. I love the confidence. All right. We will have you back on when you win the champion and maybe we'll see you on the float in the parade afterwards. Yes. Or, or just come to to do that. We have an extra spot if you want to somewhere to crash.

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Body Armor, choose better. We love Body Armor. We're drinking it all the time. Hank, Hot Seat Cool Throw. We're probably going to talk about a lot of stuff in these Hot Seat Cool Throw. Yeah, I got a few. My first one is idiots that get fooled by clearly fake AI internet videos. Well that was me and my...

Oh, okay, yeah, yeah. Go ahead. Sorry. I was thinking of something else, because you just... Yeah, you finished with AI. You felt you were an idiot. That was my fire friend. Yeah, I am an idiot.

Did you guys see the kangaroo trying to get on the plane? I did see that, yeah. A lot of people got fooled by it you the yeah Wait, I didn't tweet it though. It was the emotional support kangaroo. Yeah, yeah the video said Like breaking like emotional support kangaroo not allowed on plane And there was a video of a woman fighting with with the agent at like trying to board the plane with the kangaroo Yeah, standing next to her holding the boarding pass Was this a very cute very cute. I think it was yeah. Well, no it was nowhere

It didn't exist Was this AI or was this a video that was shot in one of those fake? Airports or fake planes that you can run out to shoot videos the kangaroo was not there. There was no there was no Yeah, there was no real. Yeah. I saw emotional support kangaroo and I looked at the kangaroo. I was like, that's cute. I'm going to keep it moving. No chance that this is real. Yeah. He's just, the kangaroo just quietly standing there, just staring right into the camera, not doing anything that a wild animal would do. I've got my ticket right here for my Stephen 30. T right emotional support you forgot that part in motion support

kangaroo and he's he's holding the ticket a paper ticket old-school yeah okay yeah he likes to get some ink under his fingers this might be a sequel kangaroo hijack but this one a lot of people got fooled by like a lot yeah yeah and it's tough it's it's I know, I felt their pain. I had a thought the other day about AI. I think you remember when they made it too small? No, you remember when they made the they made the hands all fucked up. And that's how you can tell that it's an AI video. I think that they did that on purpose. So that people would be cool with AI because we're like, Oh, well, it's gonna be so easy to tell what AI generated videos are or pictures

because the hands have nine fingers or they're melded together and they look like wax that's melted. I think they did that intentionally. So we would be cool with AI knowing that we could tell the difference. And then in reality, they just delete that line of code and they're like, okay, hands are perfect now.

Now we've got full, because you can make anything in AI. Don't tell me that you couldn't make a hand look normal. Yeah, I mean, it was, we're fucked. Everyone's, we're totally fucked. The only optimistic take that I have for it is that if everything becomes fake, face-to-face interactions become like gold

and maybe people will start ditching their phones and like Having those you know that's good Like if you can't if you can't tell what's real and fake on online you're gonna eventually just like this is exhausting I'm just gonna talk to people how is that good for us not on not us you said us well Us oh god. I got it. This is world is why you invest in my ko AI app Yeah, that knocks out AI. I like that. Yeah, I, I got it. This is why you invest in my KO AI app. Yeah, that knocks out AI. I like that. Yeah, I mean, I'm not.

We're fucked. Everyone's fucked. I'm just saying in like 15 years when we get on the other end of being fucked, maybe there'll be some a good thing, but it feels like we're fucked. I don't even believe this. I'm just trying to be. I'm just trying to give you one little sliver of optimism I mean it is kind of nice what was what's the longest that you've gone without looking at your phone and like

the last week mmm being awake probably like four and a half hours yeah that's my phone's charging on my desk right now I've been thinking about it ever since I sat down yeah yeah thinking about your Yeah. What it's up to without you. I know like an hour at home, I put my phone down when I get home first with like my kids. But yeah. I did a bunch of chores around my house the other day. Took me about two hours.

And that two hours, I felt great, even though I was just doing chores. Yeah. Like the shittiest chores, picking up dog poop. It's usually exactly what Max is describing because that happened to me last Sunday or whatever It's like when your phone is out of battery and you have to do something else. So you have to plug it in and walk away Yeah, that's really that's it. The kangaroo was cute though. Yeah, very cute Hank. What other hot seats you got? I'm actually changing it to a cool throne. Oh, okay, Stefan digs. Oh cool throne. Why like it?

Cuz he's he's he was in Miami partying Bunch of chicks had like three girls literally calling him daddy hugging him There's another video or you know they're grinding on him slapping their ass He's dating cardi B cardi B was on the boat people are go You know Stefan digs caught like cardi B was cardi B was cool with this behavior. What's cool with it? Yeah, she was on the boat. She's like in the videos on the boat working on him I saw I saw a quote from cardi B about that though She said I he should know

He should know better The fact that he didn't realize what was going on around him is embarrassing and she is mad at him. Or I guess that was a quote from somebody close to Cardi B. Cardi has her fair share of relationship issues. She doesn't want it to continue with Stefan. Now that the video went viral, she's frustrated with him that he would allow that to happen. Can I say something real quick? Cardi B being mad at you is kind of hot. Yeah, very. That is very hot. So one of the other things in this article was she wishes he wouldn't be a scumbag No, she doesn't know no she doesn't Cardi B does she does not wish that her boyfriend is like an unknown again And to me it's like this is this is what you want. We talked about it

You know you want diva wider shivers you want this is this is wider shiver one behavior Hank What was in the thing he was holding? It was a pink substance. Okay, they're calling it to see okay. I'm I'm I don't know what that is. Mm-hmm I do I think it's like Cocaine and Molly and some combination of that. I think it's like a sex drug I'm not a drug guy, but I did go to Panama city one time. Oh yeah. And if you're going to be, don't do drugs. If you're going to be addicted to any substance,

I can absolutely a hundred percent see why it would be to see it would be awesome to see, or maybe it was just cocaine for breast cancer awareness. Yeah. Or pixie dust. The sugar could have been sugar. Yeah. We don't know what was pixie sticks sticks But he looked excited to be passing it out and she looked excited to be getting it. We don't know what that is. Uh, what? Is variable upset for able is upset? I use like we expect you know Patriots plays but he was at mini camp the next day and that's where it's like I think you know, I don't know. Maybe it's like a little Come on Stefan don't get don't get filmed come on

This is this type of as long as as long as he can perform It's like who like just you know people are talking about You know Michael Irvin like there's this is this is not this is not new behavior for a wide receiver in the offseason I can definitely see variable being like yeah last year was pretty sweet not having to answer questions like that Like Lauren the Super Bowl winner. Yeah three time. Yep But he was at he was at camp the next day working out. Okay, I think it's more like don't do you think it's more? Come on, don't do that. It's like hey, like don't do that. It's like don't let like Be aware of the phones. Yes. Yeah, that's really the problem Like if you don't get filmed,

I don't have to answer about it and we got no issues. And whatever's in that bag can just keep being in that bag. It's partially the phone. He knows how it goes. It's partially the phone, but it's also partially not him. It's him not caring that there was a phone there. I think he knew the phone was there. I think he knew it was being recorded. Yeah. And we did look like a boss. Yeah. And I think he was just like, there. I think he knew it was being recorded. Yeah, and we did look like a boss Yeah, and I think he was just like oh whatever This is fine that that is more concerning to me than if somebody like across the boat is zooming in on the alleged To see and you don't notice it. That's a problem, too

But I also think no one the camera was there and being like yeah, they call me daddy would put this online I think variable would like citizens arrest someone if they pulled out to see with him Take him down right there. Listen, don't knock it till you try it. That's all I'm gonna say if it was if it was who knows What it is? Is that your hot seat cool? I have another cool. Yeah, assuming one of you do it. No, go for it Charlie Woods Yeah, mm-hmm. I didn't have it. He won a tournament a stack tournament other best amateurs in the world He won handily won by three strokes. What a beast thing It was like a tailor-made invitation or something, but future miles Russell who's like actually

You know probably the best young golfer going he's he made a couple cuts I think he made a cut or like finished top five on the corn fairy I think he might have made a cut on a PGA Tour event Stud and Charlie would smoke them. So that's like a great that's actually legitimately like this is a big win for him I saw he had one was it the day before he had a hilarious scorecard where I think he does the first day He had like two pars everything else was and the two pars were par three. Yeah First day he had like two pars everything else was and the two pars were par three. Yeah So he just everything else was either like an eagle birdie or double bogey. He was like two under yeah He's two under with two pars. Yeah, it's safe to say the future is now

Yeah golf and his name is Charlie which forget about the live tour forget about the PGA Charlie and tiger could start their own tour Mm-hmm. I'd watch it yep yeah all right good job Hank thank you stay miles Russell made PJ tour debut at 15 youngest player to make the corn fairy cut and he was he played in a PJ event did not make the cut but but legit and Charlie Woods spoke to Charlie Woods over under five and a half career majors over over smash he's smash it easy Scotty you better win now yep Charlie Woods over under five and a half career majors. Over, over. Smash. Easy. Smash it.

Easy. Scotty, you better win now. Yep. Clock's ticking, buddy. Chucky's coming. Mm-hmm. PFT, your hot seat, Koutou. My hot seat is me and Big Cat.

Mm. Yeah, Stones? Firmly on the hot seat. No. Stones are great. Why do you you automatically jump to the kidney stone with a model of health have been lifting again. I've been drinking a lot of water. Penises are great. It's usually

what precedes it. So yeah, we're on hot seat because we have been blocked online by Rebecca Romaine, O'Connell. And I didn't see it coming. I don't know what we did. I actually checked my DM. I know what you did. Yeah, we know what we did. I checked my DMs. I didn't hit send on the DM because I'm a good guy. What about the words you said on this podcast? That's what well, that's not a DM. That's not she doesn't listen to this podcast. It's unfair that she got a podcast against us. That's not fair It got clipped and posted online. These are international waters Rebecca. Ah

It was satire. We're gonna say max I Disagree, I think that you should respect her and all women in every facet of medium and every Are you saying she's a medium? No like like like a five out of ten, six out of ten wrong. I think. Okay, like like this is a medium. Is that my that's right word. I think I think the way I got there was wrong, but I ended up laying the plane. I think well the bottom line is that I think it's a little bit unfair. We haven't met and I think that's the only way that you can really get to know somebody. You're not counting dreams? Is to look at not dreams, but we haven't met in real life in real life. And the only way you can really judge a person's character, if you stare deeply, deeply into

their eyes and heart and heart and heart and maintain that eye contact for a period of time until you've sufficiently been able to fall in love with them. And I just think that she's not giving us a fair shake. Yeah, so there's theories out there, maybe when I said that she was hitting on me, when PFT, you said you wanted her phone number, someone threw out the theory that she is so attracted to us, she had to block us because she doesn't wanna break up her marriage.

That's a good call. I did DM her, it was all respectful. I sent the DMs to Jerry because I was like, Hey, you're accusing me of something I didn't do. Here's my entire DMs to her. I said, big fan, hope you're well. All due respect. That's pretty nice. Right? That's great. She wrote back, keep it clean. I'm serious. You have this bing bong idiot running around the house. That's talking about her husband, Jerry O'Connell, making stupid videos all the time. All while our driveway is rubble. Don't make me block you bing bong. And I said nothing but respect. But also when we win fantasy this

year, the driver will be fixed. That's a guarantee. That's our entire correspondence. I don't get it. I don't get it She's all max and she followed max but that felt you know what that oh shit what I? Forgot I said I would crawl through a mile of glass if I could just bottle one of her farts I Didn't actually say that was a prank I More I did not say that. The fact that she followed Max tells me she's just doing that to try to get at us.

Yeah, she's trying to make us jealous. That's kind of flirting. That's the most flirting that any of us have done with each other is her following Max. She's putting gum in our hair. Yeah. Okay, I get it. I'll play that game. That's good.

That's a good game. That's how our relationship is, Rebecca. You gonna DM her Good dammer max absolutely not let's workshop one right now. Yeah, no no you can keep it. I can I can't no DMs I kept it clean on the DMs no Hamas obviously not no no no she didn't block me. I Dm'd her I want I want to be able to follow her content. I DM'd her oh Two weeks ago. She didn't block us until we said that stuff on the podcast, which again, shouldn't be used. That was just playfulness.

And that's just guys talking. Yeah, we're just playing around. This is how we flirt. Not flirt, we were not flirting. But it sounds like she's flirting with the, it's like the president of France's wife. Just to give them a little shove in the face. Yeah, shove in the face.

That's what she's doing to us We're just very very happy together. I Said absolutely no DMS Max I'm a man of my word Max. I am a man of mine. Yes, let's do in the podcast now. Yep, you gonna hit Hey what no, what is what is that? I don't even know what you're referring to now. Let's talk about softball. Yeah, we have a game next week Are you gonna hit? Yeah, okay. I'm gonna I'm gonna try my best playing softball. So smash I'm I'm trying I'm trying to focus on okay. Okay. No, we're talking about do you think you're gonna get to third base and In softball. Yeah, yeah Long singles guy memes make a quote card that says max

Confirmed gonna hit no this is this this is a lie While talking about softball news media right here. We're being such cock blocks Listen, I'm just trying to be respectful. I not everyone on this show is respectful. I am absolutely no DMs I said absolutely no DMs. I said I was gonna keep it clean. I'm over to be respectful. Not everyone on this show is respectful. I am absolutely no DMs. I said absolutely no DMs. I said I was going to keep it clean. I'm over here keeping it clean. What if she's though, just throwing this out there, what if she kind of wants you to DM

her and now you're not? I am a man of my word. Keeping it clean, absolutely no DMs. Okay. Would you accept a DM from her? Would you read a DM from her? Would you reply to a DM from her? No, I would not reply. Would you read it with your her? Would you read a DM for would you reply to a DM from her? No, I would not rep you would you read it not disrespectful. That's

No DMs if a woman well, then you should block her to make sure that there's no DM Yeah, because no because I I'm walking it would be a power. Yeah, I would be you know What it'd be a down with the boys will go get some pizza together fucking put on a movie We'll put on you know what we'll put on, you know what? We'll put on, I mean, Hank's, Hank, Hank's not even in the mix on this. Why don't you block her? We'll go get a pizza. We'll put on some Sam Huffey highlights and we'll fucking chill. The boys do you down with the boys? I'm going to, I'm going to stay, I'm going to stay unblocked. Wow. Max isn't down with the blocker. You really should. Nope. You should block all women. Damn. If

you really respected them, damn, I respect their content. You're not down with the boys. What's your favorite piece of content that she's put out on on X everything on X everything app. Everything's happening on X. You're gonna answer the question. Uh, probably her, her blocking you guys to my favorite content. I would have missed that.'s your favorite movie or TV show? She's been X-Men librarians Library, you know original. Yeah, you know what he passed the test. He's a Rebecca Romain fan We like Rebecca Romain. We would love to have her on the show. Absolutely respectfully be awesome

People are also making fun of me because I spelled role R. O L L and that People are also making fun of me because I spelled roll R-O-L-L and that. Ahhhh. Oh yeah. So much. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Thinking about bread. Yeah, no. I'm not in a place to judge her. Yeah. I'm gonna get her back. Yeah. The only way I know. I probably am not.

I also spent so much time on this tweet too. I proofread it like three times and I still spelled roll wrong. You indented your paragraph Yeah, I've never I've never seen that on Twitter. I wanted I wanted I thought it was respectful to do Yeah, no, I read I read it out I I read it out loud to my girlfriend this tweet She's like I think that sounds good next, and Dante was how he liked his pasta cooked. All right, you Cool Throne? Hey, my Cool Throne is me and Big Cat.

Yeah. Cool Throne is me and Big Cat because, man, I've been watching some baseball in the last week. And there are some absolutely filthy, left-handed, home run hitters in this next generation that I think that all the kids are excited about seeing guys like Ellie Dilla Cruz all the kids are excited about seeing guys like James Wood from the Nationals that just mashing left and right and I personally cannot wait for this year's all-star

game because for the kids the next generation of superstars is here. What about PCA? And PCA and PCA These are all guys and you know what maybe maybe a veteran gets tossing there from the lefty side Schwab er put him in the harbor, right? I'm probably mostly just war burr Kyle Tucker. Yeah, yeah Yeah, they usually just do one player from each team. Yeah So I think that the future is bright for left-handed superstars in Major League Baseball. It is and I'm just excited They should actually do like I can't remember what the competition is called Whatever escaping me, but it's like one of the ones where they get everyone just like hit over and over the all-star weekend They should do that 25 and under yeah phenoms. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah the showcase

It's like some kind of I don't know. It's like who can hit the most over the fence. Can't remember. Oh yeah. The the futures game. No, no, no. It's like a celebrity song. Person goes up and they try to hit it over the fence. The next person goes. I think I just mentioned 25 ago, but I'm forgetting what it's called again. Yeah. to go but I'm forgetting what it's called again. Yeah. Or maybe just a Kentucky Derby. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it. The Kentucky Derby and at the All Star break. Maybe just left these have to be 2500. Yeah, that's fine. But yeah, these guys are absolutely raking. So the future is bright. Future is bright. Very bright. Okay. My hot seat. I'm gonna I want to throw a take out there. I could even call it my future take of the year.

I'm just going to throw it out there. We'll do it on the takeys, but I'll just get ahead of this one. I think NBA Free Agency comes around July. I think there is going to be an announcement. This will be LeBron James last year. And he's going to make us suffer through an entire year long. He opted in scumbag. This is going to be scum. He opted in so he might even opt in for $52 million. He's a billionaire. He might even do it. He might even do it during the NBA finals. I actually wouldn't be shocked if he do it during the NBA finals I actually wouldn't be yeah, he does during the NBA finals

So why is he scumbag for opting in because he has so much money and he's basically Screwing his team for next year when he could have just signed a much more team friendly deal Yeah, and actually gotten players that could help them win. He does not need He's not even good enough. He doesn't he's not good enough for 52 million a year. Mm-hmm. He could have signed for 30 He's not gonna miss the extra 20 million I didn't realize he could use the 20 million to actually make their team better But he doesn't care about that cuz he's selfish piece of shit Hank. I respect the take I love it But it's also hard to tell somebody hey you should just not make 30 million dollars

Yeah, but him, but do you want to win anyone win like do you want to win? It's Brady? But him, but do you want to win and you want to win like do you want to win? It's Brady? Would Brady do that's what I'm saying. Yeah, it's a pick. I was I know I was helping you out there No, I know I was I was trying to get you to oh god. I got I got I thought you were attacking No, no, no, I think this is I think it's coming. I think it's it's it's happening. It's happening soon He's gonna announce it. It's gonna be a whole thing Yeah, I think it's happening. It's definitely happening during like it's all relative Hard to turn on 20 million, but like sometimes you get given, you know $2,000 free bet you're like I'm gonna give it to the producers because like that is true good relative relative to everything like $2,000

It's not as big to you. So you're like, yeah, I'll pay it forward. I want to have the guys. Yes. This year's all star game in LA. I think it's going to be, it's technically the Clippers all star game, but it's in LA. You can have that all the stars. This is going to be it. He's going to now I didn't know he opted in. It's going to be maybe during the finals. Try to take it. That's my, That's my future take of the year. The only thing I could think that would happen would be he does this last year. It's a one year opt-in. Yeah. Yes.

And then he goes back to Cleveland at the end. I could see him doing that too. Maybe. But that's gonna be a long year. It's gonna be a long year. All right, my cool Therone. What about Bryce? Oh yeah, Bryce. I don't know if Bryce is good enough what what you say does that matter Bryce Harper no his other son I got a couple

cool drones the first is Max home the Sixers oh yeah Max home was back fully back did you see so the rehearsals obviously been going around? Great show the Nathan Fielder. Did you see that? I haven't watched the show. Okay, this isn't about that Well, it is about the first Season I guess second season as well someone on the Sixers read it said the The Sixers should do the rehearsal with Ben Simmons They the Sixers should do the rehearsal with Ben Simmons

So here's what the person wrote was thinking about what a strange career Ben Simmons has had If there's any chance he turns back into the player he once was I also been watching the rehearsal on HBO with Nathan Fielder and in The show he creates mock situations for people to overcome their fears This often includes Hiring actors building full sets the current season revolves around airbending pilots What if the Sixers did this with Ben? We bring Ben back and build a mock Wells Fargo center full with paid actor fans, actors as commentators, rest and players. Then we have Ben make the infamous passed up dunk on the Hawks actors and overcome his fear. That's not a bad idea.

Then boom, we get all star Ben again, still in his prime at age 28. That's not a bad idea It's a pretty good Nathan fielder could he could pull this off I think I think he might be back they could get him to do it a million percent one problem What I think he hates Philadelphia Philadelphia hates him, but that's a way to heal He makes the dunk and then everyone's like holy shit the Sixers Ben Simmons did it I think since it's a two-way problem It's not just Ben Simmons problem because the city is not in a good place with him

Nathan needs to also have a Ben Simmons look-alike that just walks around town all the time until he gets like a hundred percent Happiness so you guys have to put in the work, too. I I have something to say what I feel like this is like a relationship Where like it was a really really really toxic bad relationship? Mm-hmm as it was going on, but it was fun I was so hot and then you broke up and then like years later thinking about her neither neither person is is Really finding happiness in their new relationships. So they're like, let me maybe go back to that really bad toxic one.

And then that like never actually works. Does it? Are you talking about you and Rebecca Romaine? I'm not talking about me and Rebecca Romaine. Me and, that is a friend of mine and I respect her work. I feel like it has worked though in the past. I feel like that doesn't work. I think he might be right that it doesn't really work.

Yeah, but it might this time. But Philadelphia hated Ben Simmons, and Ben Simmons hated Philadelphia. There were some very mean things. Max, be honest with me. Me. Be honest. I started it.

Who started it? Philly fans. The fans did. He was. I started it. Who started it? Philly, fans. The fans did. He was very honest about it. The fans are very, very mean to Ben Simmons, for sure. Is there anything that you would take back? No, he was a piece of shit for a lot of the things that he did. But you said that you started.

Yeah, no. Would you take back starting it? You only get to live life once I think I think you guys just need to say I'm sorry yeah have you tried that is it too late to say I'm sorry I think it's too late to say that we're sorry okay instead I hope I yeah yeah you're thinking I don't really have anything to say towards Ben Ben Simmons I don't really have anything to say towards Ben Simmons. I don't want to say anything negative towards the man.

I certainly don't want to say anything positive towards the man. Okay, that's fair. That's kind of progress. Yeah, yeah, no, that's progress for sure. If Ben Simmons was on fire, would you pour water on him? Put him out. How much water? Uh, you have a full two buckets of water.

Am I having like a choice of like using that water for something else or putting it on him? Yeah, you could drink it later if you got thirsty. Could I get maybe like donate that water to someone in need? No, did all right Ben Simmons on fire. Yeah Ben Simmons on fire you have one big pot of Water you also have a bunch of pasta and that's the only way you can cook it and you're hungry and you're hungry you're a hungry boy I could probably go I could probably use half the water for I would give him I give him half a bucket okay so which half of his body would you put out I would just

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But I would like to suck your dick for a little bit if that's okay. Yeah, great. Okay all the time It doesn't usually take that long. Okay. All right. So, so tight end you has started, uh, the, the arrow pointing up for tight ends. You had, uh, our good friend, uh, George Kittle get a $19 million a year contract. Uh, I looked it up 14 tight ends next year are making $10 million or more. And I believe this was the first year. Uh, I didn't go back like all the way to like, you know, 50 years ago, but this is the first year that I could find that two tight ends were drafted in the top 14 of the NFL draft with, uh, Colston Loveland and Tyler Warren.

Tight ends are on the up and up. And I think it's all credit to you guys at Titan. You listen, I think, I think it'd be impossible to not see the correlation, right? I think in the last five years, the position just continues to ascend. I think obviously from a financial standpoint, I think what, what I'm learning now is instead of us raising all this, you know, we have all these sponsors paying for all these guys. I feel like these guys should kind of pay us back. I mean, we should get like a cut, like an agent fee tight end. You should get an agent fee of every new contract signed post 2021, which is your one of TEU. Like I feel like you pay your trainer, you pay your agent, you pay your marketing guy,

your nutritionist, your chef, all these people that you say help elevate your career, yet we're paying the guys to elevate their career and don't get anything in return. It's almost like you're being taken advantage of. Yeah, you're right. It feels a lot like that. And you also, you do a great job of getting quarterbacks. A lot of times like backup quarterbacks will come to T.E.U. And then they end up getting a chance to start and then they get paid.

Yeah. Yeah. Darnold. I mean, do we get a cut of Darnold? He was at T.E.U. last year. Do we get a cut of his check? Right. I would say absolutely. And then you also should like you should get a cut of their check and then you should also give money to any like podcasts and have you guys are to talk about Titan. You that, that, that's, that's like, uh, what is it like inception shit? That's like next level. Yeah. I think

we just, you gotta just continue to pay the machine down the pipeline because without the, without the base, like without people like you putting this out there, there is no $19 million contract by George Kittle because there is no TEU. There is no lessons. There is no improvement because no one knows about the event. There's no Bud Light. There's no dude wipes. There's no Jersey Mike's. There's no new era. There's no sponsors. It all goes hand in hand. I would say that there's no tight end. Yeah. Like the position at this point, the position would be extinct. We'd be all, we'd be playing, you know, flag football with, with guys, you know, four, four receivers out wide. You have to run. Yeah. We're in 10 person. Yeah. We're in 10 personnel, one

back. Yeah. So I think we figured it out that we all just need it's trickle down economics. I think that works well, right? Yeah, it does. Yeah. We're in a great spot right now. Great spot. I appreciate you guys saying that. You guys have been a big supporter of TEU from when it was just a random idea that George threw out there to me when I retired. And then here we are now in year five and we're going to have like 85 guys down in Nashville. And I think what's cool and you guys know this is like part of the appeal of the position is a lot of the guys like even though there are a lot of superstars and Kittle and Kelsey and whatnot, they're still just kind of like dudes, right? They're

just kind of like regular guys who want to work out. They want to train. They want to go drink a beer, a Bud Light at the bar and they want to like hang. So I think there's like the culture and vibe, like the fraternity component of the position. And then to your point, like the position continues to be elevated and it continues to, you know, be talked about more than just the former converted quarterback and the former converted defensive end

and the slow white guy used to play receiver and now he can only play tight end. Like 20 years ago, that was a lot of the position, not all of them, but those days are over like guys are now spending their entire lives training to be professional tight ends and when I was coming up the ranks of a high school college kid that wasn't the case yeah yeah do you guys do things like invite coordinators or who's out there that like running the the the play calls and and the setup of what kind of offense

you're actually gonna be putting these guys through because I feel like that would be a good addition to right. Yeah so we have to be careful we can't have current coaches so it's the dead period of the NFL so there are some rules the NFL stipulates like coaches can't be in contact on the field with their players and whatnot so it gets a little dicey like we do it out of college because we couldn't do it at the Titans facility we couldn't do it at the Titans facility. We couldn't do it in Chicago at the Bears facility. So we got to find another really cool venue. We'll see if there's any of those. So like we couldn't do it at stuff like that, but we run it,

you know, and I don't do any of the drills. Um, you know, I try to keep us on track. They kind of joke with me and they call me dad because I'm the one like yelling at kiddle and George and like, we need you back here. We got this drill. You're running this station. And so we're trying to keep the trains on the track, but we just kind of do it ourselves. We've been to a lot of practices. We've been to a lot of meetings. We know what we're trying to get accomplished. And then in real time, we do the best that we can to stay on track. And sometimes we kind of go haywire and just improvise. But yeah, we don't have any coaches. We do it all. It's tight ends, teaching tight ends.

And when Kelsey's demonstrating a drill with Kittle, there's two undrafted guys that have never stepped foot on an NFL field that dreams are just to make a roster. they're the next guy in line right behind them. So like, that's a really cool kind of synergy that goes on is they're all for these three days, everyone's kind of the same and everyone's working towards what's that next step on the ladder. And it's very different for every guy. I really should get involved at some point. Yeah. I don't like that they call you dad. Uh, you just turned 40. We just turned 40. How does 40 feel for you?

Any kidney stones? I mean, our bodies are breaking down. Can we talk? Why are you getting so many kidney stones? I think it's just being a man. Do you drink enough water? Probably not. Probably eat too many wings.

Yeah, I would say probably the hefty amount. Maybe 15 days of gumbo in a row might have something to do with the sodium. Yeah, a lot of sodium. There's a lot of sodium in gumbo, butbo in a row. Yeah. Might have something to do with sodium. Yeah. A lot of so there's a lot of sodium and gumbo, but it's so delicious. Yeah. So wait, how are you feeling at 40 though? Because like, you know, we're kind of similar. Like our bodies have taken a beating, uh, podcasting playing in the NFL kind of same thing. Um, I would say it's a mixed bag. I would say, you know, guys like us that have been through what we've been through, I think we're feeling similar things.

There's some days where I wake up and I feel great, and there's some days where I wake up and I can't stand up because my back is in a full spasm. Literally the day before, all I did was walk around the house and walk up the stairs. I didn't do anything overly active. I haven't quite figured out like why some days are better than others. I have made like a conscious

effort. I'm not perfect, but like Monday through Friday, like I can't go to the men's grill at the club every day and meet my buddies for lunch after golf and like have two beers because that's 10. So like I try not to have any beers during the week. Um, I try not to eat. So I try to make like subtle things, but I wouldn't say I'm in fighting shape. I wouldn't say I'm in terrible shape. I'm probably 10 pounds overweight of where I need to be. Same. Yeah. So I could probably lose 10. I could probably be a little bit more active. I'm terrified of rupturing my Achilles. Oh yeah. It's it's my greatest fear in my life and you know what's weird is like that's one of those things like you got to like build back up your lower body strength

and your ability to like jump and run and do all that but it's like a slow build but I'm so terrified of even starting that journey because I don't want to tear my Achilles trying to prep my Achilles for more workouts that I just do nothing. Right. Right. I can't even get started. So that I would say that's my, that's a big fear I have of not like playing men's league basketball or back to playing tennis and stuff like that. It, um, the Achilles thing is so funny because I, like when we play hoops here, I am afraid to stretch my Achilles because I think I'll tear my Achilles stretching my Achilles so that I don't stretch my Achilles and then you play the whole game scared you're gonna pop your Achilles yeah that's what I

go through yes you take one step in the morning and your heel kind of hurts and you think yourself I better not do anything active today because this is the day I know exactly and I know like 10 guys around town that have popped their Achilles. And then I try to like rationalize with myself, like I'm in better shape than them. Like I've done more, but then I also am like, but I've done a lot more like my bodies. So like I kind of talk myself in circles. So then I end up like driving a golf cart to play nine holes and then go sit in the men's grill and have a burger and a Arnold Palmer iced tea. And like I didn't have a beer.

So that was a good day. Yeah. Yeah. Do you find yourself struggling to do cardio that for me, that's the big one. It's like, I can't, I hate cardio. If you're not playing a sport, then it sucks. If I'm playing a sport, then I can run, but just to run, just to run, it's just, it's the worst thing ever. I can't. I, It's just, it's the worst thing ever.

I can't. I it's, and it's not physically that I can't my ADD and attention span is so bad. I'll be, you know, I'll be like, all right, I'm going to go walk on the treadmill for 20 minutes on an incline. I have like a little weighted vest and I'll get a good sweat. I'll be walking. I'll have a podcast in or a mute, you know, whatever, listen to music, whatever. And I'll look down and be like, that had to be like six or seven minutes. I'm at like 45 seconds. Yeah. I can't do this. Like I can't, I turn it off and I go sit in the sauna and I'm like, yeah, I walked out with a great sweat. That's an exercise to my heart. Yeah. Yeah. My heart rate was elevated. I didn't pop my Achilles. I got a good sweat.

I'll shower and I'll chalk that as a win. But I, I, I, us 40 year olds, we all kind of get it. Yeah. Just guys talking 40. All right. I got it. I got one more, uh, dick sucking thing and it will lead to a bigger question about the NFL season coming up, which we're excited for. Uh, I was thinking about it. And I, I want to give you credit for the way you handled the whole going from one to two. Also no big deal, but, uh, you got eminent, you got, uh, nominated for an Emmy as the number two, no big deal, but that's pretty cool. Uh, and you also won an Emmy last year, I believe, but I, I feel like most people would just give cliche answers all the time. And you saying like, no,

I want to, I want to be number one again. I want to call the big games. I want to be back there. I appreciate that because I think a lot of people just do the nice thing and they say, Oh yeah, I'm cool with it. I'm just happy. So lucky to have a job. It's like, no, no, I'm competitive. I want to do it. So credit to you. I've always loved the way you've approached it. What time in the summer are you going to start doing like, or do you do research and maybe we could talk a little 2025 ball? Cause we're just, we're, I'm at the point of the going to start doing like, or do you do research and maybe we could talk a little 2025 ball? Cause we're just, we're, I'm at the point of the summer where I'm like, I can't wait for football.

99 days. 99 days. So do you have maybe some, some thought early thoughts that you want to, we can toss around and talk some ball. Well, I appreciate the comment. I appreciate the compliment. Uh, it means a lot. Yeah. And I've been very adamant about where I stand and I'm also, and again, it doesn't always come through with headlines. I don't know if you guys are familiar with that, but like sometimes the headlines don't always match the story.

Something new that people are doing. Um, you guys should try it. But I say all of that, like I always make sure I'm very clear where my personal aspirations to, you know, continue to ascend in this industry and to get back to calling those games are completely independent of like Tom and I, like we've hung out personally. Like we've, we talk on the phone, we keep in touch. He sent a cool video for my youth football team as like a warm up to the season, like go kick their ass thing. Like we talk about raising teenage daughters. We've gone and played golf together. We hung out down in the Bahamas at a little retreat. Like we've gotten to be very good friends and a very personal level since he's joined Fox. Like me and him have been in the same room a lot together and hung out together

in groups. So like there's this idea that there's this like personal animosity and competition. There is not. My relationship with Tom and Fox and Joe Davis and Burkhart and all and all my people at Fox Couldn't be better On the other parallel line to that like yes, I want to ascend in the industry Yeah, I'm sure Joe Davis wants to call Super Bowls as well It doesn't mean he doesn't like Burkhart and so on and so forth So there I think any motivated guy like you want to be the best at what you do and that is not a knock on the people that are ahead of you currently. That's just how I've always been

wired so I appreciate you saying that and then I would love to talk ball. I'd love to talk bears. Yeah I think the bears are super fun. I'm selfishly hoping the Bears are really good not because we root for teams but because sometimes it's fun to root for a city like I we didn't call any Bears games last year, right? Like our crew, we should be calling noon kickoffs in Chicago, especially in that division all year long. Like that should be a no brainer early window Fox game bears, lions, bears, Vikings bears pack. Like we should be calling all those bears games. I didn't call one bears game last year. Like we need Chicago to be good.

Yes, I agree. So, all right. So last thing on that, I just loved, I love what you just said there because it is the truth. Like I think there's this weird thing that's happened in media where people can't be aspirational and they can't say, Hey, I want to be the best and that comes across cocky. It's the opposite. You're literally just saying, yeah, I'm in this to be the best. I want to get back to the best. So as for the Bears and Colston Loveland, what have you seen from Ben Johnson and what he does with the tight end position and how does that fit

with Colston Loveland? Yeah. So I mean, I'm acute. Ben Johnson was the guy for that job. And I know there was a lot of speculation about it was going to go a couple of directions and was Ben Johnson going to end up in in Vegas with the Raiders. And there was a lot of rumor and speculation from the jump. Everything Chicago has done the last couple of years and it hasn't all been perfect and it hasn't all been right. But the pieces they had the environment in which Ben Johnson was walking into, I thought Chicago had the most built in wins based on their current. So like I always judge coaching jobs guys by like, all right, if just someone that knows what they're doing takes over and it's an offensive guy because the offense

stinks or defensive guy, whatever, someone just gets the current group of guys organized and brings out the best in all of them. I'm not even saying we bring in a million new players. How many wins are there just built into that roster? I thought Chicago had the biggest spread. I thought just the development of Caleb Williams, Roma Dunesay and DJ Moore, they had coal commit. Now they draft Loveland. They continue to invest in the offensive line, although that still could get better. Like all of a sudden now with Ben Johnson pulling the strings, like that's a real offense. They've made serious investment into the defensive side of the ball free agents drafts over the

last couple of years like I'm not saying they're gonna be the best defense in league but that balance of offense and defense with Ben Johnson and his system put in place there's three or four wins built into that roster like that. Yeah. So I, I, I, that's how I view it. And now a lot of other things, health injury acquisition of new talent, there's a lot going on, but Ben Johnson to me was the bell of the ball. He was the coach that everyone wanted for multiple years. He was very picky. It tells me that he thinks the bears are the same thing because he had the opportunity to take a lot of jobs over the last couple years and he took Chicago and that wasn't an accident. And what you just said is actually kind of what PFT went through last year where Dan Quinn comes in and it's like Dan Quinn just he or

he's better than an organizer but the the the floor rises up when you get a competent head coach who knows how what he's doing in a day in day out basis. And I think our roster was much worse than Chicago's roster is right now going into last season. Like we had to get a bunch of one year rentals off the street and it was like, okay. You're talking about Detroit? No, no, I'm talking about in DC. Dan Quinn. Oh yeah, Washington.

Yeah, yeah. Oh Dan, I'm sorry. I thought you said Dan Campbell. I'm sorry. Oh yeah, yeah. No, he's another good example though where, yeah, the culture and organizing guys. no culture in organizing. No DQ no DQ. Oh that's the perfect example. And I would yes Washington's roster compared to last year compared to the Bears roster this year. I agree at least on paper the Bears roster is significantly maybe not significant is better

but you can't put what Jane Daniels did. Like it's, I don't know if we could expect anyone. If Caleb Williams is Jane Daniels, then the bears are going to, yeah, they're as good as anybody. So like that's the caveat to all that. Like for that roster and Dan Quinn was awesome and Kingsbury was awesome. Jane and Daniels had arguably the greatest rookie season of any quarterback in history. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty cool Yeah, pretty fun to watch so going through the young tight ends that you have right now in the NFL You're not allowed to say Brock Bowers for this besides Brock who is the best young tight end that we should keep our eye on Yeah, I would have said Brock yeah

Cheating that's yeah, that's a tough caveat. That's a good question. Good question. I like Laporta. I like Laporta Mm-hmm. I think Laporta is really good. I think what's cool about Laporta is that He he's not like he's not Brock Bowers. He's not you know, the Kelsey where he's like so Flashy and you put on the tape you're like, holy shit. This guy's so fast. Oh my god. This guy runs the best routes Oh my god, this guy is dumping people in the run game on his back, which maybe is why I appreciate it because that was never me either. But like every time you watch the poor to do something, you're like, he's really good at that. He's really good at that. He's like, he's really good at everything. Hence why he plays in that system and why Ben Johnson was able to do what they did with him. And he never has to come off the field because

he's not a liability in the past game. I mean, he's not a liability in the run game. He's not a liability when they ask him a couple of times a game to pass pro. He can win on third downs. He can win on all the play action stuff where they kind of script them open. He can do all of it good enough that he can stay on the field the whole time. And that's where you really see the value of these guys because they don't come off. So their volume of opportunity goes up. So I really like Laporta. I think we have a great young generation of guys coming up behind the Kittles and the

Kelsey's of the world that I think the position of tight end is as strong, if not stronger than it's been maybe ever. Yeah. We should talk about Brock about Brock though because I don't I don't want to completely he's obviously the the number one answer to that question But what was it about his rookie year? What did he do that was so special that you haven't seen from other players? Man You know I remember the first time I watched him play and you saw a six five white guy playing in the SEC running through the secondary and nobody was catching him. Like that is just unique to be that tall, that long, super linear in that conference. And you look like the fastest guy on the field.

And I think he was only maybe a freshman or maybe a registered freshman, whatever it was, he was young. And I remember thinking to myself, like, if he was able to come out of the draft as, as it after his second year, like you didn't have to stay for his third year, if he was able to leave as a, whether it was a sophomore, a registered freshman, whatever it was, he would have been a top 10 pick. Like he was that good. You're going to make an argument him and Marvin Harrison jr. Were the best two two of the best prospects in the draft and they neither one of them could come out two years ago. So like our three years ago whatever was so he's uniquely talented. I think he went into an interesting situation

where even though the team wasn't very good there is like a volume of opportunity chances when you're playing on a team that is losing where you're throwing the ball for four quarters because you're always playing catch up. There's so many opportunities in the passing game. You might not have a lot of other weapons, so they're going to design, design the system to go through you. I'll be interested to see how that plays out now with the new regime and Pete Carroll and Gino loves his tight ends. But like they're going to run the ball. They are going to be under center to back. Like it's going to be a little bit of a different aspect than what he was used to last year. But as far as just

a talent I've said I think he's the best tight end prospect to come out of the draft in the last 10 years 10 15 years like and his rookie year matched it, if not exceeded it, which was pretty incredible. Yeah. His rookie year was incredible, especially given the fact that the Raiders were kind of, you know, lost a little bit with, with their quarterback situation and the talent on the roster. I got a question about tight ends. How much wiggle does a tight end need? And is there such a thing as too much wiggle for a tight end? Because you're a slot receiver, you want a lot of wiggle. Yeah. Uh, and you see it. You're talking like, like weaving, getting it out of your brain. Yeah. Shake

a little shimmy. Yeah. A little bit of that where it's like, you don't want to give up too much. You don't want to have too much wiggle cause then you might not be great at blocking, but you also can't be, you know, you see, you see sometimes tight ends or players on the field, they have a stiffness to them that you're like, all right, that's not going to work in the NFL. Yeah. So like, and no, you're right. And that's why, you know, the top top guys over the last couple of years, you know, the last call it 10 years, they're, they're unique. And now we're seeing more and more of the body types that can

handle both the run game stuff and be effective in the passing game stuff. We're seeing more and more of the six, four, six, five guy who in years past was a quarterback, a defensive end, a basketball player who now instead of just joining tight end late into the game and being like a project, we're seeing them. Now they've played their entire life at the position. So they're just so much more advanced than maybe they were in years past. I think to your point though, there is a little bit of a fine line unless you're just your kiddle. Right. Where you're so strong in the run game and you can hold your own, but you're only 250 pounds, maybe

soaking wet. He's probably closer to the high two forties, which is not very big. When I came into the league, if you weren't two 62 65, you were looked at as like a little tight end. Nowadays, a lot of these guys are in the forties and they're just so strong in their technique and their toughness. They can get by hanging in the run game. There's a willingness and a want to, but to, you know, you always say like a guy's light in the ass, like there's some guys that are a little light in the ass where they can get in and out of breaks and they're super fluid and they can run those choice routes and those option routes and they can sink their hips and they can drop their weight. And that allows them to get in and out like a, like more of like an Edelman and a slot receiver type guy. It's

hard to do that at six five, right. Right. Your center of gravity is so much higher. Your legs are longer. You're a lot. You're more like linear bill. And that's why what Kelsey does again, we're talking about historically great players is so unique because he is six five but can drop and can sink his hip. So it's hard to find those guys. But yeah, you can be too light in the ass, which means like you just got no anchor. Like you can't just stick your hips into the ground and hold your, you might not drive the guy back, but you're going to hold your ground and at least tie. Um, those guys are going to be the guys that are only in the game on passing downs. And they're not going to be three down guys because you

have to at least be able to be competitive. if I'm going to play you in first and second down nowadays. I can't only have you in the game to run routes. Like it's just, it's virtually impossible to play that style in most NFL offenses. There's a few, but in most of them you can't. At TU do you have conversations with some of those guys? Maybe the ones that are light in the ass, they look like they can't hold up and run support, and do you suggest to them, maybe get number 88 or number 89?

Maybe you don't get a teen number, and then the ones that are kind of big and bulky, you should try to wear number 11. Smart. Yeah, I think what number you wear is critical, because I think sometimes, like, trick it, like, fake it till you make it. Yeah. So I think like oftentimes get it. If you're a slight guy getting a box here. 88 is a great example. I wish I would have thought of that. I would have gone a

little more slimming but a little bit more boxy. It makes the at least everyone thinks I go all right this guy can sink his hips and he can strike and he can hold his ground and then maybe you're a little heavier, a little later in your career. Maybe you can slim down number wise. I think that's smart. Yeah. We might build that in. You see high eighties, you're like, that's tight end. Yeah. And I think it also would help them personally. They'd see themselves in the mirror and they'd see pictures wearing number 88.

And it's like you first, you see it, then you believe it. Then you do it. Yeah. That's smart. I there's so it's like that. It's like the first you see it, then you believe it. Then you do it. Yeah. That's smart. I there's so it's like that. It's like the scene in a in a cool runnings, right? When the guy's like look in the mirror and tell me what you see. Like he's like, he's talking himself in to go fight the guy in the bar. I see pride. I see power. Like it's kind of the same idea. Like I see an eight and an eight I'm a damn tight end and I'm going to go fucking hit you in the face. Yeah. Yeah. Listen, that's real. Well, we've talked about a someday maybe doing a course at T U about the media, but we could also throw in like

how important is picking a number and what you have to go through. We absolutely smart because we know, you know what a fast number is. You know what a slow number is. You know what a blocking number is. You could just feel it. So we're, we're more than willing to do that. What are your guys thoughts on the number zero? I hate it. It's, uh, unless here's the one exception. If it's like a scat back, if it's like a, uh, a returner Darren Sproles, who's the best number zero in the NFL right now? Like I know Brian Burns wears number zero. I know I think miles Sanders for the for the Panthers Does he wear number zero or somebody on the Panthers? I know the Panthers have a zero Yeah, yeah so am I I mean I'm making this up as I go I'm just trying to think like I don't

My my first gut reaction to number zero is I hate it. Oh look Deandre Swift. He's to wear Yeah, he's where zero with the Braxton Berrios. Yeah, Calvin Ridley. Uh-huh Yeah, I think you got to be like a I think if you wear number zero you have to you have to be like hey I'm good for like three punt or kickoff returns a year for a touchdown Like you can't that's like comes with it. Yeah. Yeah, you can't just be like a guy. You can't just be like, oh, yeah He's a good player like I think to wear a number like that You need to be like I'm just the baddest dude on the block and there's nothing you can do about it

Like I'm Justin Jefferson Yeah, I also think Roquon. I think we're zero for the Ravens. Roquon? Okay, there's a good one. That's terrifying. He is good because he's like zero you have to have speed it has to be like like speed That's gonna fuck you up whether it be in the kick return or a linebacker just fucking going through the middle of the field He said before you start with one, you start with zero and Dan Smith will put his face. Yeah. Roquan will put his head through your skull. So that's a good

one. Yeah. Yeah. It's tough though. There's numbers. There's, it's amazing how certain numbers you just assume. Like when I think of 44, I'm thinking of like a full back linebacker neck roll and he's putting his helmet through your chin, but he runs four nine. Right. Yeah. I like that. Or, or like a Dallas Clark.

I was gonna say like a possession tight end. Yeah. Not the fastest guy. He's gritty and he's just so tough. Yeah. Yeah. I actually think that since we're on numbers and I had this is one of the things I want to bring up. Like I'm not ready to give up on Kyle pits yet, but maybe changing his number

for me could be a start. Yeah, that's a great, I think you're, I think he's the perfect candidate. Like every time you see eight, I think about when I see his game, like immediately I'm like wide receiver. No, that's pits. yeah, it doesn't click all of it automatically Because the single digit like you just think receiver. It's not necessarily about pits as much as it is But then like body type wise he's long. He's lean. Yep, like yeah if he walked out next year as 87 84 in college you were 84 in college for perfect. Yeah smart. That's alright. So that one will do a numbers class Yeah, we'll do a number. That'll be the math portion. You know, we always joke about like we always be like role play. We're like, all right, let's go back to the conversation. Luke Keighley gets drafted. He was number

40 at Boston college, top 10 pick hall of fame, you know, hall of fame guy. Hopefully next year when the Panthers were like, all right, here are your options. You could be number 59. He's like, yeah, sure. I'll be number 59. Right. And that feels like we always tell them like Luke, that feels like one of those numbers. Like, you know, when you see bill Belichick's team and like they all get random numbers until they earn it, you know, it felt like that was like his rookie mini camp number. And he was just like such a nice guy that he was just like, I never change it and he made 59 like a bad ass number. Yeah. 59 is a long snapper number or Luke Keighley. You are a weekly. Yeah. Yeah. I remember we ran into him at

T.U. a couple of years ago and he's lost so much weight. Yeah. He looks great. Right. Dude you talk about a guy who's taken the opposite approach of ours. Yeah. That dude lifts heavy. He runs. He just walked rim to rim on the grand Canyon. He did a half. He did a half triathlon or a half, half iron man. Um, he's shredded. That dude is a specimen still to this day.

Yeah. Yeah. We hardly recognize where, oh wait, that is Luke Hickley and he looks great. Yeah. Uh, I have a question about T you do you guys do grades? Like ABCD? Yeah, it's a university, right? That would be grades. That's really Yeah. We just found the answer to did they do grades in Miami?

Yeah, every time I think of grade, I think like sixth grade, seventh grade, eighth grade, I have teenage kids. So like, all I think about is like, what grade are they in? And everyone is always like, they're a rising eighth grader. I'm like, what does that mean? Like, what grade are they in right now? Right now? Yeah. Yeah. Miami. You're right. You're right. So that's on me. Poor job processing. We don't, we don't do report cards. We do give like a we give an award out last year. I'm trying to remember who we gave. We gave like this sick. I want to say like a like maybe a Levi's jacket. We gave out like some sick like custom jacket

of some sort to like the guy we thought like embodied everything that is to you, but no, we don't give out grades. We have toyed with the idea of giving out like a, instead of like the Maxwell award or the Heisman trophy or the Davy O'Brien, like all these Nagursky, like all these awards that are given out by these like, right. Like the TEU award and like we recognize the best NFL tight end every year and like every year it's presented at our event. We've toyed with doing that. We haven't gotten it off the ground. By the way, trophies, if you ever want to make like a part of my take trophy, they're very expensive. Yeah. We have a low man. I mean, we, we may be willing to, to,

to delve into the tight end of the year award. Yeah, we do it for college for the fullback, but we could do a Well, yeah, I mean, I don't hate that, you know who we thought would have been like a cool to honor But we were very surprised. So obviously dwight clark passed away, unfortunately and had a tough battle and I I always recognized made one of the most iconic catches from joe montana and nfl history with the catch I always thought dwightight Clark was a tight end, but he's not. Yeah. Dwight Clark is on the, I, all my life, I always thought Dwight Clark was a tight end. So unfortunately we thought that'd be like a great, this was a couple of years ago, shortly after he passed and we were like, what a great way to honor him. He could be there like the

name that we continue his legacy and whatnot. And then people are like, he's actually a wide receiver. And I was like, ooh. Yeah, we would demand the award be named after Tony Scheffler. I think that's kind of a deal breaker. So that's a- We could talk about that. Yeah, the Tony Scheffler award.

I got a question for you. This is a weird question. Do we own a football team? We do. Sweet. Do we own a football team? We do. Sweet. What do we need to sign anything? I haven't signed anything either, but we do own a football team. I believe they're, I believe they're undefeated the Monterey. So fuck yes. They're undefeated. They're, they're merchandise gear is off the charts. Their logo's sick. Ryan Khalil, who's a really good buddy of mine, Ryan Khalil and Blake Griffin, like they own a production company out in LA called Mortal Media.

They like spearheaded the operation and then they sent out a group text and everyone was like, sure, I'll do it. Yeah. So yes, me, you, Kittle McCaffrey, Ron Rivera, Blake, Ryan. So yes, the answer to that question is yes. Every time Ryan's like I'm like yeah I'm in I'm in I don't know how much I'm in for I don't know what that means but yes whatever you need I'm in. I'm trying to set up a time to go to Monterey and do some stuff with their coaches. Yeah. And but the answer to your question

is yes. Yes. I know exactly. Yeah we All right. Well, yeah, we're pumped. I saw a press release that said, uh, like Greg Olson has purchased a team in Monterey, Mexico among the co-owners include Dan, big cat cats and Eric PFT commenter, Solomon burger. So I texted, I texted big cat and I was like, Hey, do we own this football team? He was like, uh, yeah, I think we might. Well, you know what happened was what happened was, uh, Khalil texted me and Blake Griffin and he texted being like the first part of the text was like, Hey, what's your address? We want to send you some stuff.

And the second part of the text was like, Hey, we're going to do a press release. You guys cool with like putting your name in it. And I just read the first part and I was like, here's our address. And then I just like, like memory hold it. And then like a week later the press release comes out. PFT is like, Hey, uh, did you sign anything? I was like, here's our address. And then I just like, like memory hold it. And then like a week later, the press release comes out. PFT is like, Hey, did you sign anything? I was like, no, actually I completely forgot. He asked, but yeah, we own a team. So we're in, no, we're in, it's going to be sick, dude. I, a little did I know. And Khalil's worked his ass off on this, but like, his, the history of football in Mexico is actually pretty amazing.

And like the stories of these guys, the coaches and the players and what they do and where they, it isn't actually real. So there's going to be a whole mini series doc based around this team and the ownership group and the ascension of the program. It's going to be a pretty cool kind of behind the scenes look. And especially as the NFL and football Continues to just get more and more global and reach more and more beyond

America, I think it's gonna be a blast. Yeah, I'm very very the Osos. Oh, so sir back Yeah, the Osos are back. All right, the Osos are back in the back So to you like we said coming up again June 23rd to 25th very excited for it. I have one last question for you. Row back question R.H.O.B.A. C.K. dot com promo code take 20 percent off your first purchase. Q. Zips Polos hoodies joggers shorts row back dot com promo code take. Kind of a not a weird question but you do a lot of podcasting and talking about being a dad and coaching. So I have a dad slash coaching question. My son, my oldest is six. So he's getting into sports. We're trying everything. You

know, he's playing basketball. He's playing tee ball. He's playing, he's swimming, he's doing everything. What point do I actually decide? Like I'll coach him because I don't want to, I don't want to be the overbearing guy. I don't want to be the like, you have to do this because I don't want him to just be like, I don't want to do it. If you tell me to do it, I want him to naturally like it. And that's why we're doing, like he does taekwondo trying to do as many things as possible, see if he likes any of them. But what age would you say is like, all right, now you can actually start coaching. Cause I don't want to be that guy.

Well, I'd say if he's six and he hasn't picked his sport of the future yet, he's behind. Yeah. That's true. First and foremost, he need to do, he's not going pro. I'm going to say that right now. You only, no, you only do youth sports if the goal is to go pro. So you need to change your entire mindset and get out of like, it's about the experience and it's about the kids and the development and the, and all that. And you need to get on, on the page with the rest of the world. So that's that's your first mistake. Yep. To your real question all seriousness coaching your kid is a mixed bag. I was coached by my dad in high school. It's all I ever

knew coach me and my two brothers. We all went and played collegiately like it worked for us. He was really hard on us. He pushed, he did it for 40 years. It's all I knew. It's the only reason I ever made it. I learned more at a young age than anybody else I was competing against because I was just around it. And I had incredible coaching from the time I was two years old. I coach a season of each of my kids. So I have a 13, almost 14 year old son who I coach his football team at school. So we do middle school football. It's all summer long. It's real. Like it's real football. I do him in the fall. My daughter, um, I, I coached her basketball team the last couple

of years. She's in sixth grade rising seventh grade. Um, in case anyone thought she was skipping grades, I guess. Um, and then my, my, her twin brother, my younger son, I coach his team in the spring. So I do a season with each kid and I will say, I love it. I love spending the time with my kid. I love giving back to the other kids. So I spend as much time as anybody doing it. There are going to be moments where you think this isn't worth it. Like I'm arguing with my kid. He doesn't want to listen to me. He only wants to do what other people said. I almost feel like he's doing the opposite. Like that is all going to be very normal and you're going to have to manage all of those emotions. It's going to be very hard for you to sit at a sideline and watch the vast majority

of what's going on in youth sports and not get involved. Yeah. No, cause I already feel it. I already feel it. I watched basketball. I was like, I'd like to know this is a hundred percent and you're going to feel that as he gets older, it's going to go less like, Oh, this is so cute that they're shooting at the wrong basket. And then you're going to be like, okay, now like they're old enough now to know like, here's our basket. Like, why are we not coaching them? Why are we not like I lose my mind sometimes. Now I will say I've been lucky that in some of the seasons my kids have been coached by really good people where I can now just be dad. And like I'm thinking in my head what would I do. And I'm like they're doing a great job. I entrust you to coach my kids. So if you can find that great, if you don't have that, you're

going to find yourself moving from the bleachers to the end of the bench, to the second of the bench, to the head coach very quickly. Cause if not, if you're like me, you're going to just lose your shit. Like you're just going to lose your mind and be like, I'm going to waste all this time all week. At least my kid's going to know the basics and we just got to teach them. Yeah. It was the moment that it hit me was for my son they did a parents vs kids basketball game at the end of the season and I I mean my usage rate was out of control I scored I think I scored like 15 out of our 20 points and I was like I should be coaching like I hit a three and they were like no one's ever

hit a three in this game before I was like well they fucking left me open like what do you want me to do so I think I gotta get involved. Do you teach closeouts? I mean yeah yeah yeah be like hey can we teach the closeout with the proper hand and force me to the help side yeah we're coaching that for the six-year-olds I wouldn't be draining threes in your face and I when it when someone told me that I took it as like holy shit that's so impressive you impressive. You had a three. What they really were saying is like, no parent has ever taken a three in this game because that's an asshole move. But I was like, listen, they left me open. What do you want me to do? Hey, shoot or shoot man. Oh man. All right.

Well, uh, you're the best, Greg. We love having you on. Uh, we love, you know, T you hopefully we could do some stuff. The numbers, the numbers seminar would be. Numbers, well, Brandon is math. Yeah. This is like advanced math for tight ends. And then we'll do the media training where we'll just, we'll teach them how to respond to stupid questions from the media.

And we have no shortage of stupid people in the media that work here that I'm sure would love to volunteer their time as well. Yeah. Well, yeah, like what if we did like a, like we did a stress test. It's like you have to go live with Ben Mintz for five minutes.

That's a dangerous thing. Yeah, it's like if you can survive this, you can survive anything kind of thing. Well, no, that one was a trick because the answer is, no, I can't do that. I have prior commitments. I will not go live with Ben Mintz. Yeah, your agent steps in and says,

no, we're not doing this. Yeah. Got it, got it. So, okay, so it's a whole, okay. See, this, we're not doing this. Yeah. Got it. Got it. So, okay. So it's a whole, okay. See, this is where you guys are professionals. My immediate brain is like, okay, I'll do it. And I just get really good at dodging stupid questions.

You look at it as if you have to do it, you got to fire your marketing. Correct. Correct. There'll be a bunch of those. It'll be almost like we'll go levels and he might be like the final boss where it's like if you're smart If you say yes to this then you need to find a new media guy

But if you say no to somebody that you should go Do an interview with then that's a problem too because then that guy is going to be like I'm bigger than this tight end I'm gonna write my mission to trash him right and then that's gonna ding you on the PR side So yeah, listen, I don't want to I'm gonna give away the milk for free You know, you gotta you gotta pay for the cow a little bit. So we'll talk later. Smart. Yeah.

I got, now I'm going to give you guys a compliment. Oh, and since you've given us so much compliment to you presented by Bud Light, uh, I, I'm sorry, it's going to kind of be more Dan, but it is more generally speaking, my wife, I consider to be like a coffee snob slash aficionado She bought some of the Stella blue and it got rave reviews and saving dogs And we're saying and she loved and she's a dog person So all in all I just reminded me when I see it behind you there next to Dica

So you gave us a lot of compliments on toU presented by Bud Light, New Era, Jersey Mikes and Dude Wipes. Thank you to our partners. I'm going to now kick it back to you that a very, very particular coffee consumer to support you and Stella Blue, what gave rave reviews. So for what that's worth, I'm going to kick it back to you, Greg, as such a good guy and you're so good working with all these different brands and you've done so well in rave reviews. So for what that's worth. I'm going to kick it back to you, Greg, as such a good guy. And you're so good working with all these different brands and you've done so well in your media career. That was such a great compliment that you paid Big Cat on his coffee. I think

it would be great if you gave Sellebleu a free sponsorship into TVU. And then you raise the awareness and then now you're saving so many more dogs because you're such a good guy. And let me just give a compliment to PFT. That was incredible by you as my agent to work that in. And now I'll pay it full circle. And now I'll give you guys an offer for free. So yes, PFT, appreciate you being the guy you are to me.

Now I'm gonna kick it back to you. Free advice, we use this for our heart charity. We guilt people, we guilt people all the time. Be like, hey, we'd love you to support the hardest yard, but don't only do it. If you like supporting kids with bad hearts, like unless you just want these kids with bad hearts to continue to die and continue to not have great, great medicine, like don't then we're not the group for you. But like if you're into helping kids with bad hearts, like my son, then we'd love you to courage. You could

flip it and be like, Hey, only drink. Don you hate dogs and you want to see them killed, Stella blue is not for you. But if you happen to have a heart and you like dogs, maybe consider us. Like it's very, it works. So that's my free marketing. And you know what, you know, what Stella blue might need is maybe a decaffeinated version of the coffee for people that have caffeine sensitivities maybe that have, that have hearts that aren't able to handle it so if you want to work to develop that I'm sure Big Cat would be okay with you selling that and then kicking back a modest percentage to him on the top end to save those dogs so it's like people helping people it's a big circle of help

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And now for something completely different truly unruly. And now here's Zach Levine. And now for something completely different. Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest. It is Zach Levine from the Sacramento Kings. Also golfer. We have Zach on. We're going to talk some ball. He also is going to be in Tahoe with, we're going to be there as well with, we're gonna be there as well,

competing in the American Century Celebrity Golf Championship in July. So let's start with that. I wanna talk some ball, Zach, but how is the golf game feeling right now and what are the expectations for Tahoe? Which is the coolest tournament ever? Most important thing of the summer by far.

Yes. Haven't even thought about basketball has been just trying to train at golf. I did it. I did it a couple of years ago and it was the funnest experience I've had. You know and it's I got the most respect for golfers. I wish I wish my dad put a golf club in my hand before before you know baseball and football. Obviously, basketball worked out pretty well but I started playing around COVID and then I got an invite to

the American Century Tournament and it was great, man. Everything's fun until they announce your name, all your accolades and everything's quiet and my caddy's like, yeah, just take it over to guy in the red hat and over his head. And I'm like, this is a little bit different than shooting a free throw. Yeah. Yeah. It's fun though, man. I got a passion for it. I play all the time. Me and my boys. So it's fun. So what's your, uh, what are you expecting to finish at this tournament? What's the goal for you? Last time I, uh, I got to do better than I did last time. So my first time I

had the jitters, um, I think I finished like 12 from last. Okay. Had a decent first day and after that it was just blow up hole, you know, scared to hit people. So that was a couple years ago. I've been playing with a couple of my boys. I was the step one though. So I need to be in the top 30 I'll be happy with. Okay. You got to pick one guy that you have to beat if you were to select one on the leaderboard.

Devontae Adams. That was easy. Okay my that's my boy. I was just playing with the other day. Devontae will be out there. I can who else? Probably Kyle Kyle Lowry. You know, that's one of my as one of my good friends too. I want to probably beat him. Yeah, right. Devontae is pretty damn good, man. He's probably he probably like a five handicap. Yeah, he is he I've seen some of his videos. He looks like, I mean, all you guys are basically cheating when it comes to golf, like all athletes, professional athletes, they put a golf club in their hand.

You're like, oh, yeah, they're really good at all sports. And it's like, fuck, I wish I could look this smooth. Like you're like, oh, yeah, I started golfing a few years ago. You're probably sick. Now, the guy that's nasty stuff, man, every time I talk, I say, you can't be this good at both sports. You know, he's, he's pro level at golf. And you know, so it's, it's sick.

Yeah. Is there, is there a sport that you've tried that you've just sucked at? Yeah, it started off as golf. I got addicted to it. I've all, I was, I've, you know, you guys know me, I'm a, I'm a pretty good athlete. And I was a better baseball player than basketball. So, you know, it's uh, you know picking up golf was it wasn't that hard I already knew how to swing but uh, it's definitely it's challenging man. It's challenging So so when did you when you made the switch from like, alright, I'm gonna go basketball instead of baseball

Was that tough to do and like, you know, do you think like if things had gone differently, baseball would have been a future like this? I think I would have been pretty good, obviously. You know, me and me and Donovan Mitchell have this conversation. We did the little celebrity All-Star game in Seattle and we're like, how about we both retire at 32 and see which one of us will make the pros after we retire? So, you know, I mean, I made a good choice, man. I can't I can't get mad at anything I've done. You know, basketball is definitely my passion. And you know, something like so that

Yeah, you were talking about having your dad put a golf club in your hands when you're getting started. I know that your dad was was instrumental in helping you become a great athlete. He was a great athlete himself. And your mom, both Yeah, but I've heard that your dad had some crazy ass workouts that he used to put you through, like some next level stuff. Still does.

Yeah, no, I mean, I've done everything from athletic training wise of running, jumping, plyometrics. I used to do lunges on the football field from 100 yard lines and then doing backwards 80, backwards 60. I would hop the hashes. I would run hills with weight vests on when I was 12. You know, my dad was training me like a, you know, professional when I was a kid. So I think, I think everything helped out. Yeah. So he still, he works you out now. Every once in a while. My dad's retired now. That's what he says. You know, he said, my job is to, you know, enjoy you enjoy, enjoy his grandkids and, you know, come to games and talk a little shit. I think that's about it. You know, but, uh, he's still, uh, you know, he still gives me some workouts for sure.

Yeah. Uh, talk about these playoffs, uh, because you obviously, you know, some of the guys who are in the playoffs obviously, and you also, uh, you know, the Timberwolves are balanced now, but you played for the Timberwolves. I want to start though with Alex Crusoe, your former teammate. What, what is, what is it about? We love him too. He's a good friend of ours, but what is it about his defense that makes it so elite and maybe something that we're not seeing? It feels like it's just havoc every time he's out there. The guy's a crash dummy, man. Playing with him for three years, he's one of the smartest dudes. He's going to be a great coach when he's done. When he was with us in Chicago, he would help lead some of our meetings. Him coming from

LA, having that championship predegree, elevated our defense immediately. Helping guys out like me and Demarge is being gaps. Alex is a great athlete, but he'll tell you first, he's like I'm not an elite elite athlete. He's just all heart and IQ man. He studies film a lot. I've seen him break down dudes game. I remember how he guarded me. Always tell him I gave him 38 one day, but it was a hard 38. But AC is one of the best defenders in NBA.

I think he should have been all first defense many, many times, many times. Yeah. Yeah, I think he got it what last year? They finally- Every year he should have it. Every year. I don't care what it is. Yeah, he was the first Italian to be, the first Italian American to win all defense

in the NBA. I think in the history of the associations, that's a pretty prestigious honor they gave him. Everything that goes Alex's way, man, he deserved it. One of the hardest working guys, one of the coolest dudes. Talk about a good golfer too. He's a little bit better than me too. I think he competed in the American Century tournament one time, so he's a great guy.

That's one of my good friends. Yeah, we have a golf simulator here and we actually, right before he got traded from the Bulls to the Thunder, I was going to give him a card. Cuz he would just show up and get on the golf simulator. Because he's just like, I think he just does everything like that. Where it's like, if I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna go as crazy as possible. So is it fair to say that you're, I know you're probably rooting for him a little bit. Do you find yourself watching these playoffs with a preference of which team

you'd like to see win? Yeah, I mean, I'm going for my guys all the time. You know, AC, I want him to be able to host another championship. I'll see him later this summer. So, you know, if he can get another one, I mean, what a trade. You know, the upgrade that they had when Chicago traded him to OKC, man. It was an incredible trade for them. Yeah, what is it about the Thunder's defense that's just so elite?

Because it just feels like they suffocate teams and they have a way of like, it just, you watch the team, like Anthony Edwards had a very tough time dealing with the Thunder's defense. Is it something specific they're doing or they're just all elite defenders? I mean, they're really, they're a really good defensive team. I think they put that first. You know, guys that support each other are hard-nosed guys and you know that's their role to go out there and you know we understand Shays role but you know he sits in gaps he's you know he's not somebody that you know I say is an elite defender but you know he sits down when he needs to he has really good hands,

but you have guys like Lou Dort who like that's his job is to harass all game. He don't care if he shoot 10 times or two times same with AC. AC might get 15 points But he'll impact the game by getting four steals two blocks You know a charge three deflections case of Wallace is a really good defender, too So they have like specific specialist guys on their team that you know they they really get after it Yeah earlier this year. It was

We played we played them later on you know right after we played them after all start breaking We gave him a pretty good run up in Sacramento, but you know it was It was a hard fight. It was a hard fight game, but every possession It's you have to make a shot or you have to you have to really work the offense Yeah, and they're really well coached really well coach. Yeah. Yeah and looking out to the east What's it like playing against the Pacers? Is it the most exhausting thing that you've ever done because Because over the course of the series, it feels like the Knicks, they don't play a lot of guys to begin with.

They would prefer not to play a lot of guys. But it feels like they've just been ground down, just having to run up and down the court nonstop. Is it that tiring? I mean, they're in our division. I played them so many damn times. They're a hard-nosed team, but they get up and down fast. They don't care if you score.

They take it out of bounds quick They you know, they bring the ball you have to play fast for some I think this last year in Chicago We played them pretty well even a year before we played them We played them decently and they've had the same style of play Rick Carlisle, you know hell of a coach You know Halliburton can literally, you know do what he wants to with the ball and getting into the paint facilitating guys He'll have a good game by night the scoring well sometimes but um Yeah, they you got to play fast versus them. I think the Knicks, you know, they're one of the slower paced teams in the NBA.

You know, so it's, you know, it's a pick your battle essentially. You either got to pay at their pace or, you know, you can't have any turnovers. You got to get them in foul trouble. You know, you got to make them play at your pace. And it's hard to do that with guys, you know, running. Yeah.

Yeah, me personally, if I were to score against a team and then immediately they just throw the ball down the court and they've already scored like, I'm like, come on, man, you have to give me like a second to do my little celebration dance. Yeah. Give me a second to talk a little shit and slowly backpedal on defense. Get set up. It's not fair. I mean, that's the new, yeah.

There's a lot of guys that come to a game and start celebrating over one shot. I think that's a newer generation of guys. Yeah. Well, I would, I would just celebrate because it'd be a miracle that it went in so you gotta make I mean if you if you if you could play one game 36 minutes, how many points you think you could score? I probably get 23 24 No, I did we did a three-point shootout and I think we I took 20 20 three-pointers I made nine But the ones wide open. Yeah, and also the ones that I missed. I think we, I took 20, 23 pointers. I made nine. But the ones that wide open. Yeah. And also the ones that I missed, I think they were all air balls. So it either goes in or it misses the basket entirely. So no, I,

I mean, I would just, it just, I saw that it was one example in the last game where, uh, I think, I think they might've dunked it, but it was, it was a layup or something like that. And then within two seconds, the ball was down the court and the Pacers were already scoring. And I felt exhausted for the Knicks having to defend against that. Yeah. They, they take the ball to net and they, they, they literally, it's the next play. It's the next play mentality. Yeah. And they got a,

they have a lot of guys out there that are hard nose, like Tasia McConnell, been a winner since he was in high school. You know, a lot of, like he's a guy that I played against him in college and them hearts, hard nose guys, and he Smith, you know, all those guys, see outcomes come from winning. You know, they, they're, they're, they're a good, they're a good team. Yeah. Well, uh, speaking of, uh, former teammates, Carl Anthony towns, uh, you played with him for the first few years in Minnesota. Uh, we love them. We love watching them. He's, he's, he's a different cat,

but he's also like when he gets hot and he's taking it to the rim and he's hitting those threes. When you first met him, were you like, this guy is, I mean, it's crazy. He's seven feet and he can, he can he shoot the three better than most players in the league? I mean, I mean, cats, one of the most skilled people in NBA in general, you know, it's, it's not even crazy. I think he's, he's a top big in the league and he's, he's proven that over the last,

you know, seven, you last seven years of his career. There's not a lot of guys you can compare him to. I think that trade for him was a big time too because I mean I think the trade for both of them was big. Minnesota getting some more toughness with Julius Randall. You see that both were in the conference finals. But Katz and Krupp was one of my good friends. Always root for him.

It just shows how skilled and how talented he is, because any team he gets on, he can elevate. He also seems like an awesome dude, just like a genuinely good dude. I would assume that came through even when you guys first linked up, because you both were young. Oh yeah, when I got drafted, I just turned 19, you know, and then I played me and me and drew her together when we were to, uh, he got traded over and then cat got drafted next year. So, you know, we were really good those first three years. I think we were the only,

the only teams that had like three guys averaging 20 or more points and we're all under 21. So, you know, good times. Yeah. Yeah. About like what could have been if, if that group had, you know, stayed young together, grown up together. Yeah. I mean, you can always think, but you have been if that group had, you know, stayed young together growing up together Yeah, I mean you can always think but you never know I think I think Growing up and then seeing you know, obviously the trajectory of each of our careers, you know I think we needed it, you know, especially, you know for me like me being able to go to Chicago and you know

I pretty much become the player that I was I don't think that would have happened, if we all stuck together, but you never know how good of a team we could have been. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I think I take everything in stride, but that's, I think that's the beauty of basketball. What was it like for 19 year old Zach to get drafted by the timber rolls and having Kevin Garnett as one of your teammates? Did he talk shit to you immediately? Hey, G KG like me a lot. Uh, cause cause I, me and KG sat next to each other. That's like my, one of my main vets. So, you know, I, I have a, I have a specific story that's hilarious. I hope you don't get mad at this, but he, uh, he comes in the locker room and a couple guys, you know,

guys get on their phone immediately and they're looking at either stats or Twitter. I don't know. They're looking at something. And this is like one of his first, you know, first games with us. And he's looking at either stats or Twitter. I don't know they're looking at something and this is like one of his first You know first games with us And he's looking around he looks next to me. He's like Zach. They always do this shit. I Say yeah, man, you know, I don't know any different. It's my first, you know, my first time the NBA Gets up grabs everybody's phone puts in a bag. So we're not doing this shit no more a couple extra, you know It's what is throws the bag outside the locker room before flips comes in flips flip comes in a locker room starts talking about the mean he holds it up

he said no we're not doing this shit nobody gets on their phone one more time I promise you every phone is getting broken go ahead flip start the meeting he set the tone immediately from that you know it was the first time we got trade-over cage it was incredible having those guys, him, Mo Williams, Andre Miller, Rubio. It takes on Prince on team. It was a lot. We had a lot of, you know, that's Corey Brewer, you know, it was an exciting team. It was, it was a mix of like literally young puppies and old dogs. So it was fun. Yeah. So getting to play with him too, as a rookie must've been, must've been fun outside the locker room. I imagine that people show him that same level of respect on the court like the opponents like he he had a way of

Demanding respect and getting respect from people must have felt like you had like a hockey enforcer on your side like There's no there's no one like him in the demeanor. He brings the intensity, you know, even in practice every every practice with us You know, he's 40 years old, you know with a a bum knee, and he's running lines as hard as anybody. He's talking messed up guys. He's giving people hard ass fouls in practice. You know, I'm talking about like 10 AM early first, you know, first scrimmage or, you know, hard playoff fouls.

So the intensity he brought with, he's one of a kind. You can't fake that. Yeah. So what was it like playing on the Olympic team? It was great, man. It was a great experience. You know, I think that was for me, it was one of the first times I had, I had like a specific role. You know, I wasn't, you know, the leading scorer of the team.

You know, we had Kevin Durant, it was Jason Tate, me, Devin Booker, Bradley Beal, Draymond, like it was so many guys, Damian Lillard. Um, I think it was the first year I made the All-Star team too. So, you know, we're all coming off really big years, but they needed specific roles. And that was the year I just told him, I was like, look, whatever I need to do to, you know, be on the court and help contribute. So I was picking up guys full court.

I was like a catch and shoot dude. I was getting steals, getting transition. It was probably some of the funnest, you know, basketball ever played. Cause you know, everyone had a specific goal, didn't care about egos. And we came together and, you know, figured it out. Yeah. That was a crazy Olympics. It was 2020 in Tokyo, right?

It was 2020 Olympics, but it was played in... In Tokyo. It was right after COVID. Limited fans. And we only had like two weeks of training camp, where before other teams had a longer stint. They put us together and we figured it out, man. So it was really cool. There's some crazy games in that Olympics, too. It felt like, you know, it wasn't a given

that you guys were going to win gold. We lost, I think we lost our first exhibition game. Yeah. Everybody's a lot from like stun, but I think we needed that because it made everybody closer. Yeah, so in practice for that team, I've heard all the stories, I'm sure you've heard them too,

of the old school dream team practices that they'd have, how competitive it got. Was it that same way for you guys, where it was just like some extremely high level basketball? Yeah, I mean, we scrimmaged a lot, and guys were going at each other, and then we got to play against the select team, which is always fun, coming up through the USA program

where the younger guys get to play against the Olympic team. I did it when, you know, they were over in Brazil. So you know, seeing the guys go at us and then, you know, I think they won like the first two quarters, we ended up coming back and beat them. But that, that's what gets everything, you know, pretty much rolling in that competitive nature. Cause you know, without that, you, you're really, you're walking into a, you know, a orange nest. Yeah. Yeah. Um, I got a couple of bulls questions for you. Uh, first is easy one. Uh, remember the time you hit 13, uh, three pointers that was sick. Uh, were you in the, were you in the zone? Could you feel a difference in that game when you hit 13 threes? Yeah, I wish I shot more. I probably could have hit like

16. It was crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, whenever, whenever you're, you know, guys that can score the ball and shoot, you try to figure out how to get in that zone. But, you know, it just, it just happens sometimes if it might be in the first quarter, might be in the second fourth, whatever it is, but you get three, four, five threes in a row or over a certain game stretch of finding a rhythm. You'll see guys hit seven threes for consecutive nights because it's muscle memory at a certain point in confidence. So once you get that going, it's easy. My other one was coach Jim Boylan. Yeah. When you- Who's also with the Pacers. I'm actually really excited for him. You know, I'm glad that they're, you know, he's doing a good job over there. Yeah. When he first made you manually clock in, were you like, what the hell is going

on here? You know, so Jim, Jim, me and Jim had a funny relationship, but we actually had, we started understanding each other, but it was different because he brought a, he brought a completely different mentality. He was the assistant he was like the assistant coach and then got moved up to the head and He just had to try to do something different him and Fred Hoiberg had completely different personality So, you know, he literally brought like a like a clock in clock and guys had their name with stamps on it You had a punch in and I'm not joking. It was I'm in my fifth year by now. I'm like, I'm just the NBA But it was it was it was something that I think guys needed, man. He had to be authentic to himself.

So when that happened, you were like, okay, I guess we'll just try something new. Were there times when Jim Boylan would talk or give a speech and you're like, what exactly is he saying right now? Because there were times when he would do the, like in between the first quarter and second quarter, he'd do the media and I'd just be staring at the TV being like, what, what was that? What did he say? Growth plates or something?

Like there's... He would have, he was a, he was, he was very, he was very into it, you know, and he'd, you know, I remember him always be like, you guys gotta have the right spirit. I'm just like, no, we're down, you know, we gotta go out here and fight, fuck like, you guys got to have the right spirit. I'm just like, we're down. Hey, no, we got to go out here and fight spirit. You know, but, uh, you know, Jim, Jim actually cares so much for his players

and for the organization. I think he cared, you know, I've had a bunch of coaches and he, he's probably the dude that's cared the most about him and him and Billy, I don't want to throw Billy, you know, Billy was an incredible coach, me and him had a great relationship, but, uh, Jim cared a lot, man. He, you know, I think he did the best he could. I remember when Big Cat told me about the clocking clock out the time clock I thought like these bulls are going somewhere I loved that addition to the facility yeah blue collar shit. So about the time clock when you would punch in it but would it clock the it would

actually clock the time or was it just stamping your name on it? It was like a legitimate like if you're at a construction site, it had the time in and time out. If it was 9 0 5, it said yeah. Would he review your time cards? That's what I don't know. We have like a fresh one every day. I think he just printed out just different like him or one of the assistant guys just print out fresh ones each and every day.

That might have been the missing piece. I think the time clock was a great addition But the second part of having a time clock you got to check the time clock. Yeah Yeah, check the guys guys are consistent. Yeah, the spirit thing is like yeah He would a lot of spirit talk a lot of like intense. I Can't remember if it was growth plates or what it was. We read the league in spirit this year Yeah, it was one where he like looked into the camera. He's just like, we got to get the growth plates in the spirit of these guys. I was like, dude, it's like it's middle of February. It's between the

first and second quarter against, you know, Jim, let us know who he was. He showed us some of this coaching stuff from Utah. When you first came here, we were cracking up and he's like, I'm going to be the same guy regardless. Yeah. Yeah. What about, did Fred Hoiberg ever play a movie for you? Because I remember he did that a couple of times where he like, I think it was dumb and dumber once. Um, I don't know if that resonated. I think Hoosiers maybe he never played you guys. I don't remember that. Okay. Yeah. I don't remember that at all. There was some good ass plays though. He, he has some really good ATOs. I remember that I had a couple of easy threes at ATOs in that first year. Yeah, do you know when a coach installs something in practice you're like, oh this is gonna work. There's no way they can stop this.

I think it's specific to each guy. If you figure out what guys like, like what Fred did for me, he knew, cause he could shoot the ball and you know, he played a little bit He started figuring out where guys his tendency was so like he would he would do a pin down specific to where guys like to like like to shoot if you like to go left right off of a gather versus hopping versus like he studied that and it was a There was a couple of times he did ATO out the right way It was like a down screen pin down to a flare and I'm just like, oh man I'm wide open like in practice and the guys know what, what's coming. So yeah, in the game you're, you know, you're expecting something, you know, be wide open. Yeah. All right. So that actually just triggered something in my mind that I, I, uh, I always wondered when you guys are in

the NBA and you have a coach, what level of basketball did they have to play for you to get? Like, is there a level where you're like, all right, I respect this or, uh, because like you said, like, you know, Fred played a little, he did play in the NBA. That's more than just a little, is there a level where it's like if they played high school ball and nothing more, you're like, all right, this guy doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. No, I mean, it's always good. I think they have pro pro level guys on the staff I don't know if that's to be the head coach because there's a there's a common Communication and respect or you know, there's a language that we speak that others don't you know, he's been in this situation, you know Good good good coach a good friend of mine was Sean Resspert

You know, he played played at Michigan State All-time League shoot the hell out the ball played in the NBA for a little Bit but you know, I remember telling him like hey look these guys are double teaming me You know, what's the best way I can you know split it? Like how can I get out the double team? You know, I've been passing all day, but what's the best way to split if I go up to a guy or a coach? That's only watch film but hasn't felt it. You might not have the same response. So Okay, I mean Sean Ressford played in the NBA for like five or six years. So we're, yeah. A little is just a few years. I feel like if you play one year in the NBA, that's a lot of NBA. If I played one year in the NBA, I'd be telling people, of course, you know, I think I'm just saying a little bit of one

of my 12 years. Yeah, that's true. You played a lot. You played a lot. But yeah, I'd wear the jacket with the logo on the back. Yeah. If I played for one second in the NBA, I'd be like, yeah, I played in the NBA for like, is now, is there also like, if you know, if you have, you have a coach that didn't play high level college ball, is it a process where eventually it's like, all right, they show you something that you're like, all right, I believe in them. Like I can trust them. Oh yeah. A hundred percent. You know, I think, I think it just shows what they're good at just because that they didn't play in the NBA. They could be a, you know, a genius or a master at their craft in a different area. They might be great at ATOs or defensive

positioning, you know, anything. It could be scouting, you know, everybody in the NBA is at a high level for a reason. You're not here for no reason. Yeah. Who's the best assistant coach that you've ever had? The one that we should be on the lookout for like that guy's going to get a shot and he's going to be great. Man. Um, I've had, I've had so many coaches. My favorite, I'll just say my favorite assistant coach who turned a coach was Sam Mitchell. Great guy. You know, Sam, Sam, Sam was incredible. You know, he, he would talk, he would talk to you and he was a player. You know, I was KG's vet. You know, I remember being on a team and KG's like, that's my vet.

So Sam Mitchell was great, man. He was a head coach in the NBA before, but he was my assistant. Yeah, you've played in a lot of places that have legends that have preceded you, legends of the game, like KG in Chicago with Michael Jordan Jordan but probably most importantly growing up in Seattle with Spencer Hawes The looming shadow Spencer Hawes there. We are Spencer Hawes Respecting podcast with Spencer just a big part of the basketball scene in Seattle growing up Yes, but specials a guy who came before me. Oh You know what a bunch of other dudes legend I can say like yeah

Spence is a legend. course in his own, right? No, but in all honesty, I know Spence is great Yeah, I think Spence when I was growing up out playing these little pro runs in Seattle Jamal Crawford Nate Robbins say I mean the list goes on Brandon Roy with all these guys at Seattle We do a good job of keeping the community and you know the guys, you you know, out there, but Spencer was always there. And, uh, he was the first dude that literally, uh, he pinned my shot off the backboard when I was in high school. And I thought I was, you know, I could jump out the gym, especially at that point.

I'm trying to dunk on everybody, especially trying to impress these older pros. And Spencer went up and just pinned my shit right on the backboard. And I remember my dad looking at me. He's like, that's the difference between high school pros Yeah, and then for that moment that spurned you to become a professional basketball player. All thanks to Spencer Hawes the dunk contest Yeah, all because of Spence. Yeah. Wait, how old were you when you started playing with pros? I Remember my first pro work I play I mean

Luke Ridenour Luke Ridenour gave me a rebounded form and then he let me work out with him and play a little pickup game with him when I was in like eighth, like seventh or eighth grade. Holy shit. Yeah. So by the time you're like 16, 17, are you still intimidated when you go to these runs or are you just like, I know I can do this? I don't know if you're intimidated.

You're still like, Oh man, like this is Jamal Crawford, right? You know, but it, it becomes normalized. Yeah. That's awesome. Who is a better dunker you or Nate Robinson? I mean, Nate asked three, I have to. So yeah, but I don't know. Nate, Nate, Nate's a legend. I don't know if they would have beat me. Yeah. What's your best card game?

Card? Yeah. Like gambling? Yeah, yeah. What are you the best at? I don't know, not bull, right? Uh. You had a bad game recently?

Are you losing on the, on the planes? I'm not losing, but I'm not up. Okay, but Best card game. I don't know probably I'll be blackjack or something like that. Who's the best bourree player on on on or like that you've ever been around That's bourree club been around Mike trout. Oh really? Mike trout can play some bourree. Oh, that's not the answer Shout out Mike.

That's hilarious. I got a little bit of my bread. He doesn't need money. That's why Shohei went so far in debt probably. Yeah. Mike Trout. Blu-ray. Blu-ray got him.

Mike Trout's probably just kicking the shit out of his translator every day. Blu-ray. Yeah. That. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm in a fantasy league with Trout and he takes my money there. So that's not fun. Yeah.

Mike is a first ballot, all the famous man. That's one of my boys. I read that, uh, that you collect old cars. Do they, do they all run? Man, I got a 68 Pontiac, a 70 Chevelle. Um, I got a grand national. I sold, I've had some, I used to have a 65, uh, Mustang. So I got a lot of old school cars.

What kind of engine you got in that 70 Chevelle? Uh, LS3. Okay. All right. I got a, I got a, I got a 1970 Chevy El Camino, but it doesn't really run that much. Don't run it off with a four 54 pig block. I've had, you know, old school, man, every once in a while they stopped. That's the fun in them. Do you know how to fix them too? Hell no. Hey, somebody else. I just call it tow truck and take it to the

garage. Yeah. Uh, I, this is probably an easy question, but I, as a sports fan, it's fun to watch from afar and it feels like there's certain guys that everyone's like, that guy's the best guy ever and everyone loves them. And I feel like DeMar DeRozan is that guy. And you've obviously been his teammate with the bulls and the Kings. Is that fair to say like he is everyone's favorite teammate because that's just the vibe I've always gotten that incredible guy. One of my, one of my good friends, you know, it's, it's funny. I, when I got traded there, I said, man, he couldn't leave me alone for, you know, four months. But, uh, you know, we see each other a lot, you know, tomorrow's great. Cause he's extremely

genuine and somebody that doesn't, you know, he's not trying to, he's not trying to be anyone that's not himself, you know, and it's, it's, uh, it's always been a, been a treat to be as a, his friend first and his teammate teammate Yeah, after all this time in the NBA in the offseason Do you are there still things that you're trying to improve on your game or different wrinkles you're trying to add? Are you just at this point trying to stay in shape and and keep what you got going? No, I mean I every if you're a competitor you try to get better every year, you know for me I obviously you work on your body and the order you get you try to get as much rest as you can and be sharp and

Continue to be like really good things you are but you know I think I'll go into each offseason that look at like what can I improve on and what you know? What's a little aspect that would give me you know this much better. So what are we working on this offseason? Man, oh, what should I work on this offseason? Realistically, I haven't got back and looked at a lot of film I told you I've been golfing getting ready for this time But um, you know, I think I think I did a great job this year, man I pretty much led the league in three-point percentage. Oh

Shot 50 51 52 percent from the field. I averaged 24 points a game So, you know, I think the efficiency point is always you know, try to be as efficient as you can And then I think probably just a little bit more like just how to get to a free to like easy shots You know if I can get to the free to live, you know Six seven times, you know that that's it's easy. It's easy points. It helps our team get the bonus It keeps them in the penalty. No, you know slows the game down you need to I think that. I think that's something I can get a little bit better at, at least these last, these next couple of years. Who do you study if you're trying to figure out how to get to the free throw line more?

I think it has to be how it is with your game. I think getting to the free throw line is an art, honestly. It's just like shooting a step back or a floater, being able to learn how to shoot a three, whatever it may be. You have to learn what goes in with your game. It's not a specific guy, but I think you could take little things from each person. If it's a, if it's a sweep through or slowing down a bump, you know, I've always been good at pump fakes, you know, so it's, you know, little things like that to where it's like, how can you, how can you manipulate the game to where, you know, it fits

yours? Yeah. Smart. Uh, all right. So I got a question about the, we, we had, I think it was last summer, there was the whole NBA players playing in the NFL and vice versa debate. You caught a little shrapnel cause Cooper cup played you in the quarter finals in, in, in a high school, my man. Cool. Yeah. My man. Cool, man. And the story came out like twice. I know. And the story obviously is like Cooper cup beat Zach Levine. They did. They beat the hell out of us. So is there context to it was your was his team that much better or was cuz like It's team on the state champion. So that's not fair that it's like it was just you and it was No, so it's cool. I think coupe is two years older than me. So I was a sophomore and they were seniors Oh, I was but I'll be me look I was the I was the number one player in the state

You know they and they put this little white dude on me, and I'm like I'm about to get 40 And he's hella fast so I could you know he's just as fast me if not faster so And they you know they had a really good defense they double-team you know that but he had a good game You know I had like 20 points, but it wasn't anywhere near my average at the point They they beat us by like 15, and they were the next game. they won the state championship. So yeah, that's a missing context that needed to be included. You were a sophomore. Yeah, that's not it. And it did. It did go viral like five different times because people were like, it should have man. That's what's funny is I didn't know that was him until until he got to the pros. Now obviously knew, you

know, way before you guys did or when it came out But it was uh it was funny you should did you like text him? Did you get his number? He'd be like you better fuck About four years ago. I said man. Why is it just coming out now? You remember that bro? It was funny especially you know how good he is you know what he does so I'm not a football guy man. My dad was a professional football player, but I, you know, I stopped playing when I was in grade school. So I don't think it would have been good going either way. What do y'all think? You think what's a better, who's a better athlete? Football, football, or it's not better athletes. It's just, I always, I always go back to like, if you see a NBA player playing in an open gym, you guys like, like how many, if you were in an open gym, just working out and you, I said, Zach, take a hundred threes. How many are you missing? Yeah, I mean 85 or more. You're making 85 or more every single time. Like no one's guarding you. You're making 85 like that. That level of shooting. I just don't, I don't think people

comprehend but we're pros. Like that's what we're supposed to do right but that's what I'm saying like if an NFL player tried to do that like They might like it but ask us to go across the middle and yeah hitting the ribs, you know, like I know I do I agree with you there I think run a ten yard out and catch you and toe tap on the sideline like I don't yeah We might be able to if it was like a you know, a guy just throwing us, you know a ball on the you know Do it with defense. It's, I think it's completely different. I do think that Wimby could be an elite red zone wide receiver. Yes. Yes. Just, just send him into the end zone. I don't, I don't know. I think you'd get jammed at the line so fast.

So you think all football, like you think that football players are, it's harder to go NBA to NFL than NFL? I think just the crossover in general is hard. Yeah. I mean, you know, unless you played that sport before it's, it's, you don't have any, you don't have, you don't have the wherewithal with it. You know, I don't think, I don't think, uh, a football guy can go in the NBA and be effective at all, unless he was a high level basketball player to start. Right. That's true. That's,

that's actually probably the fairest answer that anyone's had where it's like you are actually diminishing how many hours and work goes into both. Like if you're on either side and to be like, Oh, you could just switch is insane. Yeah. Now that you might have some instances where, you know, somebody could score, I might be able to get a catch as a wire. So yeah, we're, we're very high end athletes. I think Draymond could be a good kicker. Yeah. Draymond's Draymond's highlights from the Michigan state spring game. There are some guys like, you know, LeBron was off the charts in high school. Yeah. You know, I think, I think Westbrook would be an incredible, you know, football player. Yeah. But LeBron got, I mean, he got bodied

by Dante DiVincenzo going over the middle his last playoff game. You know, everything's contextual. That was a, that wasn't a fair shot. I do also love Draymond. I'm just, I respect his game as a podcaster as well. So I gotta take a shot every now and again. Yeah. Hell of a podcaster. All right, Zach, I got one last question for you. It's a row back question. R H O B A C K.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, row back.com promo code take. Like we said, Zach will be out there. We're going to be there for the American century celebrity golf championship in Tahoe in July. We're very excited for that.

All right, so my last word, do you want to give us who you think is going to win the NBA title? Okay, see? Yeah. Yeah. Is there a world where the Pacers could pull it off? I like the matchup of the Pacers versus the Knicks just because the pace difference Yeah, I mean playing, you know, I've been east most of my damn career, you know almost all of it But just playing both those teams. I think the pace of play was definitely favoring the the Pacers

Okay, see I think you top the bottom is a better team. Um, but You know, it's the NBA man. Anything can happen. You know, you grab it, you know, pray to God everybody's healthy over these next, you know, couple of weeks, but you don't know until you can see him play. But if I were to, you know, guess, yeah, I'm going with LKC. Okay. Good guess. I concur as a fellow expert. Yeah. Although Jim Boylan getting a ring with the Pacers would be cool. Huh? Oh, it'd be great. You know, I love AC to have that ring again, though. Yeah. Well, I'm rooting for Alex Caruso as well. Yeah. Alex Caruso and Thunder. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, Zach, thanks so much, man. We appreciate it. And we'll see you out in Tahoe. Yeah, man. Wish me luck. Don't say too much if I, uh, buy a shank one left or right. All right. Yeah, we got you. We got your back. You're going to,

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fuel rewards program today at Shell. Okay, let's wrap up the show. We got Fire Fest of the week and we have a special guest in the booth. It is Zach, new hire at Barstool, three weeks in. He is a member of the Cream team. He was applied initially to be Coach Gruden's assistant. Had some self-miscommunication problems during that application process Where he was told to live tweet like he was tweeting from Gruden's Account and he just didn't send a single tweet for an entire half of football Self-miscommunication what were the uh what were the tweets? What would they have been? Was that my bed? What would the tweets have been if you had tweeted them out? It was gonna be a high between the streams But I didn't know there was issue using the software making sure I was doing them on time and they're supposed to be live So I fell a little bit behind so for the first half it was uh There was zero post is a tough look software issue

It was a mean issue I can't blame the software all the way But wait when you fell behind like if you fell you fell like one play behind and then you're like, that's it That's a wrap. It was more so encompassing the whole thing. I kind of I mess it up. Yeah All right. So Zach is a he's from Florida He is a Bucks Tampa Bucks and New York Knicks fan and he went with the boys Down to Indianapolis game four so we wanted to get it from you and memes obviously can chime in how the game was

what was the conversation like you were with memes in pug the new PM TV will be out in the afternoon on Friday so tell us tell us how it went so I think I think the game could have gone better we didn't get the win at the end of day I think the road trip went well there's some good banter in the car means Probably the MVP of the entire evening he manned the ship to and from you draw the wheel he did so probably about in the Maz That is wow. Yeah, it's a nice car, right? Yeah, super roomy. Yeah headspace. It worked out Well, what do you think of chase small talk? I? Think she's small talk went well. He went good

He was good including everyone in a conversation sparking new topics things like that Yeah, if there was a pie chart that broke down the different things you talked about what would that pie chart look like? so we got into a little bit of a Little bit of traffic talk going through Chicago the roads are terrible a lot of windmill talk okay, Indiana That was good. I'm not sure what there are a lot of windmills in that route was the general consensus about the windmills Tons of them they do light up at night and a little freakish if you look at them for too long kind of looks Extraterrestrial like yeah, okay. Yeah Alright, so yeah, and then what up what other conversations were at and then we don't have to keep clicking on and off

Cuz we'll talk to you for a while. Okay, my bad Look it for a little bit. Yeah So we're going through Indiana a lot of windmills we There were some issues trying to get the teeth figured out cuz Stevens were like implanted vampire teeth Yeah, so where there was some glue mixing in there as well Like an implant vampire teeth. Yeah, so where there was some glue mixing in there as well Once we talked about there was some parking situations seeing if music of Hooters another shot What thoughts on the Hooters? Uh, yeah, uh, who's gives me stomach pain? Oh

God, but Zack talking me back into Hooters. So did you try it memes? Yeah. Yeah back in'm back in, had a burger. How was Pug on this trip? Oh, Pug was a real backbone of the trip. Oh really? Because he's not a Knicks fan, he's just from New Jersey and he was recording everything, but he was the glue that kept us together. Oh. Where did that hat was?

A stunner. Well the hat was so that people knew that he was not a Knicks fan or a vampire, he was a journalist. Human being. All right, so and then in the game, how was how is it? How was attending the game with memes? Did you guys share high fives hugs? Attendant game was sick. There weren't any hugs. There was a few fist pounds a couple high fives

It got a little gloomy just because we felt like we're chasing the same ten points for about two quarters There's also some irate fans around the building There's a woman that felt as if we were recording her child the entire time. Pugs was wrongfully accused completely. Oh, what happened? We sat next to a nightmare woman. I saw some of the videos and it was,

she basically tried to keep getting into the shot that Pug was taking of the three guys and then also being like, stop filming me. So what'd she say? She said you're getting my child in your video, you have to delete it? So she was just like, can you guys stop recording this way? And then Steven, very respectfully, in his vampire teeth,

looked at her and was just like, we're just recording ourselves, like three of us, and then she was just like, disrespectfully, was just like, you guys are filming my child. To the point where the people behind us were like, oh my God, they're filming her kid. And then it was just and then I had to step in and be like, no, we're like, we're for a podcast. Like you had to address the crowd had to address the crowd. This all, by the way, did happen while Stephen Che was dressed as a vampire.

What was the takeaway from I know that some of the New York fans have been upset about the Pacers and more specifically Pat McAfee taking the mic and being like all you out of town sons and bitches go back home. As an out of town son of a bitch memes, and Zach, did you guys feel like that was hostile directed at you guys? So no, let me tell you about their Jumbotron team. They won the entire game. They brought the entire, every single player

who played for the Pacers ever was there. So they started in the first, they introduced some guys, like a couple first round draft picks, then they increased. Then they brought out Jermaine O'Neal in the third quarter. Massive pop, you thought that was it. Timeout in the fourth They do though. Let's go Pat McAfee and the crowd just went nuclear that pretty much won them the game. Yeah Yeah, and he did tell you guys that you're out of here. Yeah, but is what is yeah

It also sparked a run from the Knicks, but they just couldn't He did it was a massive momentum switch. Yeah, I guess more importantly. What was the vibe like on the ride back? How much how much talking well before the ride back? Did you get lost sack? I should have to some photos of where we parked at I did get separated from the group And then I ended up at the wrong parking garage doing the loops Steven said floor two and I so I Kept going back to two like one to four back to two thinking Maybe I just missed the Mazda two or three times, and's like, oh no, that's the wrong one. Yeah

Okay, yeah massive mistake there. I thought was gonna be in Indiana for the evening Yeah Cuz I got a text after the game because I was on a group text with all the guys and they just said we lost Zach and I was like, oh, this is not gonna be good So you were just in a different parking garage altogether different parking garage I was actually very close in proximity the two parking garages I'm oh I'm almost right there the whole time and I'm just spinning doing loops it was rough it wasn't good it was a bad look sir in the right spot in the wrong parking garage wrong garage yeah if the car had been in that garage

you were in the exact right place to catch it yes I just a little off yeah just a little off right party all right a little off. Yeah, just a little off. Right off the street. By a parking garage. All right, so the ride home, what was the vibe like on the ride home? A little bit defeated at first. It did take some time to get out of the garage. Couple of gas stations tried to stop at.

They were all locked. That didn't work out too well. We finally made it to a McDonald's. They could get some caffeine going because we wanted to make sure everybody was good for their ride home. Any music? Music towards the tail end of the end of the trip. I was good for the ride home Any music

Music towards the tail end of the end of the trip there. Yeah, there's some playlist getting shuffled through. Okay, so memes don't listen to this But Zach memes has a tendency to get very very angry when his team loses Did he say anything or make you feel unsafe in any way did he hit any children? No children were hit no children were recorded and I felt pretty safe the whole time. Did you hit any children? No children were hit. No children were recorded and I felt pretty safe the whole time. Okay. All right. Okay. Uh, now, now we're doing fire fest right now. Did you have a fire fest? I brought, I asked if you had a fire fest. I did bring one today. Uh, did you want, did you want me to go over it? Yeah, go ahead. Okay. Uh, so my fire fest of the week would be, uh, over sharing with Stephen Che on the way home after we were at the McDonald's. Yeah. So I don't, I hope, I don't think Max has heard this. I think Hank and PFT haven't

heard this. I wanted you guys to hear it for real. Uh, what did you over share? So this is what happened. We're, we're at the, we're at the McDonald's. They say go to the third window. We go to the window. We're trying to get him some coffee. Uh, coffee takes a little bit longer than we would thought I kind of like You know it's late the game's over. We lost it's been some time in the car. I wasn't really thinking about We're just we're just shooting the shit. You know and me and Steven start talking about McDonald's orders, and so I bring my order up and he just I shouldn't have shared it, but it's a And he just is I shouldn't have shared it, but it's a

Just a two double cheeseburgers. No pickles extra onion two fries and 20 nuggets And then I didn't think that would be an insane order. You just tossed the 20 nuggets in at the very end Just get fucking tossed like dice It was like it was the sauce that you put in what size fries large fries My favorite part and how many days in a row was that? That week it was a fourth or fifth day. There is a second burger place next to it that I rotated to I know now that I probably should I know now that's a bigger order than some consume I didn't think it was that crazy going into the conversation by now. No To say it again. I saw two double cheeseburgers. No pickle extra onion two fries and then

Now Zach You've been at Barstow for three weeks now I have you sir, this is Second and a half week. We're in the third week right now. We're in the third week So how many days is that like Like you're at 20 days? 20 days, yes. How much weight have you gained since starting at Barstool? Anywhere between like 18 and 19 pounds. In 20 days?

It's not the best. Were you eating this type of meal when you were in Florida? Were you eating in Florida? Is that like a new thing? So I go, what tends to happen is I'll kind of fixate on a meal. So I get into something I'm enjoying I'll then probably rotate out for probably a week or two fair And then so for the past like two or three weeks the burger and fries has got me in a choke hold Yeah, and the problem is PFT. He got his apartment in Chicago and

How close you do McDonald's so I'm 250 feet from McDonald's 50 feet from another burger place, small Cheval. It's not... He's an alcoholic living in a bar. It's very good. So when you moved here, you just saw the McDonald's. Did you move into the apartment because it was so close to the McDonald's? I did not.

Did it factor at all? Were you like, hmm, that's the extra little bit that I needed to make this decision? No, I knew as soon as I saw the's it would probably be an issue actually having that kind of easy access to Do it to a McDonald's really how many days a road do you think you could go eating that same meal? I've never put something like that to the test and hopefully not any more days than yesterday I did I want you to be yourself. You got to keep doing what you do. I did switch to a chicken yesterday Yeah, so so this is I I haven't heard this I did chick-fil-a instead of I'm scared to ask what your order is a chick-fil-a

I learned a lot about myself yesterday. This is my like in it some thinking and I went I just went two sandwiches two fries That was it No nuggets and I and I did I have a little ice cream, but it's just only one pie Oh, yeah, so this is the part PFT and Hank you got to listen to and max What do you usually finish your night with? Again, I didn't think we'd be going over this but I've been a Jerry's I like Ben Jerry's they got good mix-ins good flavors Netflix and chills probably my favorite the cookies and milk is also great. Yeah asking PFT How much spin it you said I noticed that when you were talking earlier

You said just a little pint With a chick-fil-a that implies that normally it's more than just one little pint. How much is normal just one to two pints? But if it's one it's just like a little yeah, just no no no no no no no no just like It's a pint. Yeah. Yeah, just no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, just like a serving. It's a point. Yeah. Yeah. You are remarkably thin for the way that you are. I am like so jealous. Yeah. I carry one. I usually just try to go with a black shirt because black is saying, oh yeah, yeah. You're looking at a black shirt. Yeah. This is what we do. But PFT he I think he's being a little little coy here Zach has a strict policy that if he opens a pine, it's done. Oh, yeah

He does not know you I'm the same way second pine. Yeah, the second is also done Yeah, I usually by the time I'm done with one pine. I've had more than enough ice cream But you you're just getting started. So you don't believe in the lid either. I'm with you. Yeah. No, I don't believe on it. Yeah, yeah It's a no lid household Like goes out with the rapper. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So what other meals have you become fixated on as of right now? It's it's just been burgers and fries. We mean in historic. Yeah. I mean there had to be one before this Oh, yeah, the one before this was a turkey sandwiches and potato chips and how many turkey sandwiches? I was only for you just to with the first

You are skinny for how you are. It's just like going for back for seconds. You know what I mean? Like you ever go like home cooked meal, you like have some spaghetti and like, Oh, I'll probably get second. So yeah, sandwich is just going back. Listen, I'm, I'm a big proponent. I got killed for this last year.

The two bagels always got to get two bagels. That's the right way to do breakfast. One bagels never enough. Yeah. When you're eating this meal, is it, is that your only meal of the day it is so okay So you like a snake you have one you do intermittent fasting every day. Yeah, it is almost a fast. Yes Yeah, so it's very healthy a lot of calorie intake, but it's also then we fast through breakfast and lunch not too bad Yeah, yeah, okay. Yes memes

So we got to the McDonald's and I said you could order whatever you want Like I have the company card like order whatever you want and he was afraid to say that meal So he only got a diet coke. Oh, why would you starve yourself? I didn't it felt like a safe play in the car, you know I didn't want to be doing rappers and stuff getting in the way so it's actually pretty fair. Yeah Yeah, but still you were thinking about the order In a way, so it's actually pretty fair. Yeah. Yeah, but still you were thinking about the order Yeah, it crossed my mind. Yeah, you did and the die coke 99% water so not zero calories there, too Yeah, we'd look at it. Yeah, it is funny

We were just talking about the two bagels or the two sandwiches, which I actually have no problem with but again You just kind of sneak in the 20 nuggets Yeah Well, I think my favorite part of Zack eating these giant meals and getting two of everything Even this guy knows you just need one soda. Yeah Not gonna get crazy two sodas is a wild move. I don't want to blow. Yeah You wouldn't want to blow from the two cheeseburgers 20 nuggets and two pints of Ben and Jerry's two sodas just crazy Yeah, carbonation will just crazy though. Yeah.

Carbonation will do it though. Yeah, absolutely. All right, so Hank, you have a FireFest or did you want to ask him a question about the cream team? Yeah, but I don't really have a FireFest. I have a FireFest. It's not great. My FireFest was just going to be, I was told that we were going to have ice cream this

week from you via this podcast. And then today I heard loud drilling. Seems like there's nothing going on. I've talked to some people, some inside people that maybe work, you know, in the kitchen here that that they're not feeling hopeful. No, about ever getting ice cream, let alone this week. Yeah, I was promised ice cream this week and I have not had none. Exactly. Zach was just shaking his head when you were talking So it's just never gonna happen we we work in an office that we bought ice cream with that we don't have the plug well Hold on oh is it does it run 220? I bought an ice cream machine that cost me seven grand and then was told hey guess what it's gonna cost double

There is just to plug it in just like it might not So once it's plugged in plugs into like the dryer type plug That's the 220 correct 110 and we were I was gonna All due respect to the cream team. You got to look at that Specifications, it's it's bad. I was told by the cream team We had one plug that was that could handle one of them Yeah And they're like we might need to figure out a way to get the second plug then upon further review We have zero plugs that can handle that electric. We don't have a 220 volt circuit here

So we have a there's a 220 outlet in the kitchen that has like a it's got a 220 fascia But 110 voltage behind it, so it's a pump fake outlet, but that's no excuse for needing a second outlet at all, right? That is kind of a weird move that they put a fake at it all right that is kind of a weird move that they put a fake 220 face on it there is it from all from the eye the eye test is 220 the voltage behind it 110 mmm okay but did you know that we had 220 the vice-chair which had 220 when you bought it we knew it ran off a 220 which is what we found out about the existing 220 in the kitchen not being able to go to one to 22 20s of massive oversights completely our fault and I'll take full accountability for that. I'm sorry are there any ice cream machines that run off the regular voltage

There are but the thing is two flavors is needed was it was a was needed you need more power Yeah, two compressors and the one flavor was shot down. So we're like well. We got to make this work Yeah, they try to give me one flavor I was like absolutely not over under 20 grand spent before Ice cream is consumed. It's gotta be under It's gotta be do they make to it 12 right now It's it's so under But we're 12, but we don't have ice cream 12 is not good ice creams coming super soon do they make generators for 220 volts sorry

The I we could run off a generator I don't know if you want to do this kind of fumes inside and the noise But we could we can't pivot now the electrician was here, but yeah the generator would have worked What are the chances that we don't get ice cream I ever ever if I? Think that can't be rude. That can't be it I know I need a percent because there is a there is a chance that there's anything 12 grand for nothing anything can happen We couldn't we might not wake up tomorrow, but so 1% 1% You're saying 99 99 percent chance there will be soft serve experiencing ice cream. Yeah, okay

Experiencing as we will be experiencing ice before after July 4th break. Oh We will be experiencing ice cream. Before or after July 4th break? Oh, before. I've put a hard date on them Wednesday. Wednesday? Wednesday is what I want. I want cream on Wednesday. But a hard date means that like, what happens if we get past Wednesday?

Well, here's what we're dealing with with the cream team and specifically Zach. He told me that when he found out that there was going to cost an additional five grand, he wanted to puke. And I told him, you should have puked because I would have liked to see the puke. So I think that if we don't get it Wednesday, I'm going to at least get to see him puke. That's fair. That's super fair. Yeah. Okay, Zach, I appreciate that you took accountability for it, that you're like, it's unacceptable mistake, all all on me hand up But whose fault really was it it is my fault hundred percent mincy mincy Not mincy's fault mincy did great getting a free topping dispenser, so I can't I can't do that Yeah, that was that sounds that sounds like a complicated Jacob Jacob not Jacob's fault either okay, and you're

Pete are you is there any concern like from the from point where did you buy the ice cream machine from you don't have to Name names, but like I was just thinking like I allowed Why would you sell an ice cream machine that works well? Oh? They so they need to go This a restaurant establishment needed to go small small even bigger. Okay, it's small eyeballs ice cream machine They have good ice cream there. Yeah, I've eaten that ice cream Yeah, so they just needed to get a bigger machine for the demand of like the uber eats deliver all the delivery services and the in-house Yeah, yeah, which we do have a high demand here, but it's I would imagine a little less demand than the

Wednesday we're gonna be stress testing. Yeah, I yes, sir I do think that there's a good chance that Pete is actually to blame for this because putting a fake plate on an outlet Mm-hmm having it look like it's 220 when it's not that is a wild boy move And there's a one snake that I could think of that would do something like that because he was like they're never gonna figure this out They're not gonna run 220 off of this. They're not gonna buy an ice cream machine That's fuck that's got all business Pete sticky little fingers all over. Mm-hmm could have been an honest mistake No, not Pete not Pete. This is a fuck Pete podcast. Okay, so get in line Zack. Yes, sir. Go ahead I'm in line. No, no

Say it Pete Say it. Say it. Say it. Say it. Say it. Say it. Say it. F.P.

Okay, F.P. I'll take F.P. This is like the initiation into a game. Yeah, you'll get there one day. Say it. You'll get there, young man. Yeah. All right, PFT, you're...

So we're going to get... We're creaming on Wednesday. Wednesday. Yeah. Can't wait. Scream time, baby. Yeah. Yeah, we're creaming on Wednesday, Zach I look forward to serving you guys soft serve ice cream. Yeah, I look forward to getting it from you And you know, you feel like you're gonna puke right now

It's it's going is the electrician done. I Haven't checked with the eyes of right now, but it sounded like a lot a majority of the workers getting done today I would I don't want to give you a hard answer on that cuz I don't want to be misinforming you at all Tell me he's not done by tomorrow. Yeah well we still need to tailor reps to come and set it up. Tell me a little bit more about the toppings dispenser that you've acquired. So it's a freestanding or I believe we may be able to get away with a side mount but we know we're gonna go side mount with the cone so we gotta make

sure we don't run out of a side mount space. It's like three even slots for some some classic toppings that we can rotate in and out What are we thinking for the toppings? Oh? You guys this Reese's we can do Reese's yeah hot fudge there is also a fudge warmer That's not maybe able to dip your cone. Oh fudge warmers Yeah What fudge warmers holy shit, but that's not like a yeah dispensed topping What about maybe classic sprinkles we can do sprinkles? Yeah, I think you gotta go real I don't know if you guys like that, but yeah, it must be an option. I think we start with the basics

Maybe crushed Oreo Reese's sprinkles. You know I like my ice cream a little bit peanut butter mmm peanut butter in the ice cream is a treat they actually Reese's actually makes like a milkshake centric peanut butter peanut butter in the ice cream is a treat they actually Reese's actually makes like a milkshake centric peanut butter sauce maybe in your eyes maybe look into that Wow okay I'm definitely open to flirting with the idea of extravagant toppings but I think we played the hits early yeah let's flirt Wednesday is gonna be great great yes names Wednesday's gonna be great Pug wants some vegan ice cream. No no tonight. See ya I Mean we can't even get ice cream the cream team. I imagine if I gave Zack the task getting vegan ice cream He'd puke everywhere they they have like oat milk ones. No no no no we're listen Pug. We're in no place

We're in no position right now to be saying what kind of ice cream or lactose intolerant What binary why don't you be a man and just get diarrhea like the rest of us? Shouldn't have to get diarrhea to enjoy the great taste of ice cream. Oh, yeah prove that you want it though You're doing a great job. You eat ice ice cream everyday, eventually your stomach will harden up. Yeah, be a man. I'm pretty sure they make like oat milk ones. No, get out of here. Take his mic away and take the headphones back.

Zach, you're doing a great job. It's not ice cream. There's no cream if it's oat milk, right? It's cream flavor. No. It's cream flavor. I have it at Wrigley and it bothers me every time I see it. It really does. It bothers the fuck out of me doing a great job Zack I saw you take off your glasses and kind of wet your face because you're nervous. You're doing a great job

I appreciate thank you sir. I appreciate that. Yeah, we're gonna try to continue to do that for you. Yeah We I like the we a lot. Yeah, we're working hard. Yeah We're doing our best. I also do you have the mission accomplished banner? Yeah, we're doing our best. I also do you have the mission accomplished banner? Banner's not in hand yet. No. All right, we got to get the banner I wanted a mission accomplished banner for the first day of cream. It's good. Yeah All right 50 your fire fest my fire fest of the week is that I quit golf last week after a it was a strenuous round that I played with with Henry at his club and I don't know if you guys have ever experienced this,

but you get so bad during a round or so bad at something that you just completely mentally break every time. And you're like, I never want to look at a golf club again. Never want to, never want to talk to Hank about golf. Never want to watch golf on TV anymore. Just fully on. I can never seen you like this. I convinced myself, I was going to say **** golf to the extent that I wanted to become a foot golfer and do the soccer golf and then make it my mission to lobby to have more foot golf

courses installed on real golf courses just to **** with every golfer in the city of Chicago. I love that which I still might do. That's up in the air. By the way, I think I can be a professional like top half percent foot golfer in the world. I think I got a future in that. So I quit golf. I was very happy with my decision to quit golf. I've been thinking about not playing golf all week and it feels great. And then today got a little tap on the shoulder. And I think I have to come out of retirement for playing golf. Hmm, cuz I've been invited to the Invitational here at Barstool the internet invitational to play and I stink at golf which I'm gonna have a sick handicap

Yeah, the the timing of it is crazy. You just quit golf. I yeah, so the internet Invitational something that foreplay and our guys from Bob does sports been working on computational something that foreplay and our guys from Bob does sports been working on Maybe like a month and a half ago. I made a plea to Dave to have Either PFT or Hank in this tournament because I was like, hey, we're doing this We got a pretty big podcast be cool for one of the guys I'm not gonna be in it because I'm not good at golf one of them should be in it And Dave was like no and we got a hard no I stopped fighting I was like, I'm just not gonna fight for it and then out of the blue right after you quit

You get an invitation second and quit. I can't quit this thing. It's like a bad penny It's like a cat that follows you after you move like I had already moved on mentally I was like he told me no I asked I actually Hank was with me the first time I asked You're fighting for me and I was like, it's gonna be I just wanted you to play more golf And then yes, so I fought for you like three months ago Then I tried one last shot like a month and a half ago and I was like I'm done. I'm not gonna we're not invited It's fine. And now you're invited. So now I can't quit golf. So now I'm back print the press release I'm back and I'm gonna to need all of your help.

All right. Can we I this I was bad because Hanks is going to play so much more golf now. No, but it's teaching. No, I want to I just want to help. I want to help. I'm not going to be coaching a million dollars. Get you coaching. And I yeah, I'll take 30 percent. Fifteen. OK, that was a great negotiate You know cuz cuz we played we play with someone played with a couple years ago the first time you play there you broke a hundred and it was not going as well this time and I Was like I think you know PFT is probably a first in PFT in the simulator for probably I don't like total 4050 hours combined over the course of the fall and winter total 40, 50 hours combined over the course of the fall and winter. Only hitting driver and only hitting driver as hard as you can possibly hit it. That's step one. We're putting

the driver away until the end for it. We're practicing the other club. We're going to try and I have that long drive where he owes me a thousand dollars per yard Hey, you hit one good drive on Friday party go you hit one good drive Oh, it went like 320 yards. Yeah, it was a fucking bomb. It was a fucking bomb, but We're you're playing golf for a million dollars. Would you rather win a million dollars or win a couple thousand off you? Yeah, but I'm taking 15% would I rather win a million dollars or would I rather win like fifty thousand dollars out of Hank's pocket that is actually a good question also in the internet invitational as far as I know and I don't know much about this you're competing against like 31 other golfers in the Hank PFT long drive you were

competing just all right well don't say you want my help but then just turn down the literal first piece of advice Hank it was the it was very suspicious how your first piece of advice is we're not hitting driver at all factor fiction you've gotten worse at golf since we've had a simulator in this office I've gotten worse at some parts of golf No you can't drive you PFT you hit like ten drives out of bounds Hank's not allowed to do the fingers when the fingers Hank you have a long drive competition coming up in a month and a half against PFT and your first piece of advice is put the driver down. The first one. The very first thing you said. You could have at least been like kind of sneaky about it.

The long drive competition you have to hit them straight too. Like if you're spraying them those aren't going to count. You have to hit the fair one. I have to hit one straight. That's all. Alright but Hank I would, I'm not going to listen to your driving advice because why did I take advice from somebody that can't drive. Alright just hit other clubs. Start there. Okay. You can drive as well, but like, let's try and, you know, hit clubs at a normal speed. I'm gonna need you to coach me.

I'm gonna need you to coach me hard. That's where I need a bad spot, but I will. This is a good spot. No, I know. I'm also bad. Sounds like we gotta make some golf videos. Yeah. For work?

Shit. Shit. Sounds like we gotta got to make some golf videos. Yeah for work shit shit Sounds like we got to get back in the golf video I'm gonna make it my singular mission to win the million dollars, and you know what I'm gonna do with that million dollars We're gonna have a fucking party boys, so I thought you're gonna say more ice cream. We're gonna get We're gonna have an ice cream party. Oh, yeah ice cream so petting zoo petting zoo for the office. I'm gonna see. I'm gonna make it rain to see to see to see is gonna be in the topping bar. Yeah. Oh, excited for you. Pft. Yeah, I'm excited to accept it

felt great to quit golf. It really did. I might have to just quit golf after this. But I think we're learning lessons that like quitting golf led you to this. Me giving up trying to get you guys in led you to this. Max not DMing Rebecca Romaine is going to end up with an affair with Rebecca Romaine. Like this is what you have to do. I think. What?

You know what you got to do. What? Give up on the ice cream. No, shut up. No, no, no, no. Yeah, no, it's a good lesson that quitting sometimes works really well. It's the best thing that you can do. Yeah. Alright, well, to be continued. To be continued.

Alright, my FireFest simple one. I fell for a fishing scam that was a test by our own company. It's bullshit. We don't talk about it. What was it? Was the link? OK, so what was the link? I have not clicked on a bar stool email in probably five years. Like it's just it comes from like people at bar.

Like it says the person sending it. It's not a name. It's just like bar stool sports. Right. I don't click on them. There's like name. It's just like barstool sports, right? I don't click on them There's like HR training haven't clicked on any of those This one happened to be a free uber eats gift card for fifty dollars so that was a subject of the fucking email and I clicked on it and it took me to a Fake fishing site that said you just got hacked Please learn about cybersecurity, but it said that it said it was from Barstool, right? It looked so real and not only that

Shut up Hank I'll find I'll say the other part too I did also click on it again later that night because I was like maybe if you click on it once the second time They give you the thing now I'm not gonna point fingers to anyone in this room for why this might have happened. Yeah, it sends you to a site that says, "'Oops, you opened a phishing test.

"'Don't fret, this is an opportunity to learn more "'about how to identify actual malicious attacks. "'As a result, you've been assigned "'the following cybersecurity training.'" Oh, so now you have to do the training? I'm not doing the training. I'm not clicking on any emails ever again. Can I just, and again, I'm not making excuses. Nope. I'm not pointing the finger at anyone. Nope.

Did this happen a mere hour or two after I was told that the cream team has failed in their initial attempt to get the ice cream machine plugged in. Zach? Was it in the time frame? Yes. I saw a $50 free Uber Eats gift card and I was like, I'm just going to buy some ice cream. He was in a very emotional, emotionally vulnerable state. Correct. And if the machine was up, you would have never hit the email. Never would have hit the email. Because you don't need $50 from uber eats to order ice cream if you have your own ice cream right here you don't need at all for some uber eats ever so that's on us it's so bad that it was uber eats if it was anything else it would have been like haha I got it

if it was like hypothetically a toll an unpaid toll that literally just someone was like you're paying a bill like you don't need free food Free food thanks. I would have is or I was like I got I don't want to get fucking the IRS to kill me It was bad. It was bad. It was bad, but I do think that again not to point fingers The ice cream machine not being up was a killer you were hungry I was hungry, and I wanted ice cream bad mentally ice spiritually Yeah, free ice cream is better than any ice cream in the entire world mm-hmm Who can we point the finger at really though? Zack it that's on us. Yeah, that's on us

Accountability all right Zack well everyone tune in to the PM TV Zack on the way to indie with memes pug and Stephen Che great job Zack we'll finish with numbers you get to guess first. No, you said numbers I said he gets to get first numbers. Oh that was fucked up memes You the guest always guesses first though. Yeah, what would you like to guess? I'll just go with 10. Okay for what? 10 just Just just for 10. Yeah, not not a reason. I like I like 10 smooth smooth round number. Yeah smooth I'll go for 4 June 4th ice cream ice cream opening day. When is the invitational? I'll go 71 15 Hank. What's my target score to win the invitational? I

Have no idea how the format works and what the handicap is but net my handicap is max your net you're gonna have to be net 70s which means like whatever your score is minus 25 strokes or whatever like you're gonna maybe even net 60s I'm gonna go the guys in this invitation or like phenomenal golf I'm gonna go 66 I think that net 66 would be yeah net 60es when you'd have to shoot Like a 90 that's possible 66 you can do it you can do it all right wait so numbers three four memes ten for Zach or 71 66 99 poke You have to show anyone shoot net 66 like four times. 37.

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