Pardon My Take - Grit Week - Deion Sanders, An NYC Garbage Man, And Monday Reading Sequel Waffle House Fight Guy

Episode Date: July 27, 2020

Welcome to Grit Week 2020. It’s a little different this year given the circumstances but we have an awesome 24 hour livestream planned for Wednesday. Baseball is back and the weird parts of the game are hilarious. (2:30-10:56) Lou Williams strip club story and Jamal Adams trades. (10:57-18:08) Who’s back of the week including Thibs in NYC. (19:04-27:40) Primetime Deion Sanders joins the show to talk about being Primetime, his career in baseball and football and being the best and Swaggiest guy ever. Also prime times rules about public bathroom use. (29:50-1:16:54) We welcome on an NYC garbage man, one of the grittiest jobs out there and talk to him about the business. (1:19:00-1:37:07) Monday Reading the Waffle House fight guy writes his response and reasoning for fighting the same cook every single week(1:40:16-1:59:14)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, Grit Week 2020. Weird Grit Week, but Grit Week nonetheless, we have an awesome interview with Primetime, Deion Sanders. We also have an interview with a real-life sanitation worker, trash guy, garbage man. So we get the ins and outs of the garbage business, and we also get to talk to Primetime.

Pretty much two ends of the spectrum, love it, it's going to be great. We have Who's Back of the Week, a little baseball weekend recap, and then for our Monday reading, we check in with the other side of the, where's the Waffle House fighter? The Waffle House fight, the cook that was making eggs in weird fucked up ways from like three or four months ago. We get hit, we get the story from the guy who was ordering the eggs, remember his girlfriend wrote in. So his side of the story, it is a must listen to, very excited for that.

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slummin' it in Malibu with the celebs this year. Now in our defense, so if you are just, if you are a new AWL, grit week is every single year we've done this, every single year we've had the podcast, so five years in a row. We have gone out, it was usually right before Memorial Day, we would go out on the road, we'd do a bunch of interviews, we would see a different part of the country, we've done the south, we've done the midwest, we've done the west coast. So this year, obviously with the pandemic, we weren't able to go anywhere, we held off as long as we could, we were hoping that things would get better to the point where we could

get on the road, it turns out it didn't. We were going to combine it with the training camp tour that we also do over here, so we were going to go to like different training camps as they opened up in late July, but became apparent that wasn't going to happen either, so we're making chicken salad out of chicken shit. And it's going to be fun, so we have some great interviews this week and on Wednesday starting at noon. So from noon on Wednesday to noon on Thursday, we're going to be doing a 24 hour live stream,

we're not going to be sleeping. Streamathon. Streamathon, we have a ton of stuff planned, we're going to be raising some money, it's as gritty as you can get, PFT is going to drink 24 beers, I'm going to eat 24 hot dogs, Billy Football is going to run a marathon on a treadmill, that's just a little taste of everything we're doing. We're going to have some celebrity guests, we're going to have interviews calling in, we're going to have people that are playing us video games on the live stream, we've got

a little bit of everything. It's grittier than that. So it is the grittiest way that you can sit on your couch. Pretty much that's what we've 2020 is. We timed it perfectly so it ends right when the NBA games pick back up. So we're going to try to watch those and probably just fall asleep on our couch. Correct. So we have adapted, it's going to be a lot of fun, we hope that everyone will tune in

during it. So that is grit week, we're in grit week, feel gritty. First talk, we had sports this weekend finally, baseball all the way back, any takeaways other than, I saw you tweeting about this, but the on pace for the 60 game season is going to be electric. It sucks though because not as many people are doing the on pace tweets. It's like the first Robin of Spring in early April, you always get the people who are like, so Bryce Harper is on pace for 350 RBIs.

Yes. And I miss those tweets, there aren't as many popping right now because it's not as cool to say like, Oh, John Carlos Stan is on pace for 60 steroid assisted home runs. Yes. You know, like it doesn't pop the same way, but, but there's still people out there that you're seeing in their native environment that are tweeting that out. And so my, my hat goes off to you. Yes.

So I had a few takeaways. The first was we're going to get more fights this year, although actually let me, let me step back because I don't know how they're going to fight social distancing, but there were, I was watching the Cubs game on Saturday, but I was watching the Cubs game on Saturday. It might have even been Friday and it got testy. And after the game, they were interviewing guys in the clubhouse and they're like, yeah, we can hear literally everything the other team saying. So like when they talk shit, we get pissed.

So it's like a totally new normal where you, I think there might be more tempers flaring because you can hear every slight, every, you know, remark that is said in an empty stadium. I really want the broadcast to turn off the pumped in crowd noise when there's a manager argument with the umpire because that's the one thing like I've always wanted to know exactly what gets said in those arguments. We got treated two years ago to my asses in the jackpot and those types of gold lines. There was one back when I think it was Sparky Anderson got into a fight with an umpire where

they had a mic'd up. That's just so awesome here. I want to hear every single fucking word that is said in those like belly to belly argument. Did you see in the Cardinals Pirates game, the new normal, it is so fucking funny. The Pirates manager comes out, Shelton, he comes out and the, so the ump tosses him and they both are angry and they both pause to put on their masks and they then stand five feet away from each other and scream at each other. It's like this is, it's actually a great barrier, like it's a great way to have a, have a second

to be like, okay, am I really mad? What am I mad about? Yeah. And take a, take a breath and be like, all right, this is what I'm mad about. It's a cool down period. It's like two boxers get into the ring before they start fighting. They have to put on their masks. By the way, quick time out, uh, we're, we're in the middle of the fourth quarter of our

team, the water dogs playing the Atlas and, uh, Judas, Judas football is rooting for the fucking Atlas for some reason, cause he's a fucking loser, Billy. I don't, I still don't understand why you sat in this owner's suite of ours and you're like, I'm a root for the Atlas today. Well, I think the Atlas have a lot of veterans with a lot of experience and I've no, they're an international team. You said it yourself. It's basically team USA from a couple of years ago, right?

So it's, they're too used to playing the international game. You know, it's, it's Paul Rable, Anthony, it's Carmelo Anthony wrote that they have basically the LeBron James, Dwayne Wayne and Chris Bosch of the cross on one team. Yes. And I get to pick wherever my legions, they just tied it up. We're falling apart. That's fine. Whatever.

The water dogs have the best jerseys in the game. Um, all right. So other baseball thoughts I had, uh, the, so teams fighting the, obviously the, the, the manager and the umps fighting with the mass on the cardboard cutouts getting domed, which we mentioned on Friday, that happened. It was awesome. The dog took a shot. Yeah.

There was, there was another one where a home run just went up, like cut a kid's head off. They need to keep those up though. Yeah. It needs to be just complete, uh, a graveyard at the end of the season. Don't repair them. Show us how dangerous it is to really attend a baseball game. Right.

And then they have, uh, the sad mascots, which I can't get enough of. Yeah. The mascots in the stands and it's so funny seeing mascots with no one around them just being as sad as possible. It's also funny watching the game develop and figure out like what works on TV and what doesn't work in this new normal. So they had, you know, they had the, the, uh, computer generated fan awful, which were hilarious.

It was, it was N64 graph, but yeah, where they didn't do like any rendering whatsoever on the people in the set. They should actually like, there should be a video game that just concentrates the most about like making the fans look as realistic as possible. Use that technology for this. Like that'd be sick to have what would appear to be like an actual crowd. That's all fake, but then instead of Madden, it would be just like Madden for fans. It would be just, you don't get to play the game.

You just get to go to the game, you get to attend the game and maybe get into a fight maybe. Yeah. Right. So like you, how many this week we got the chargers. Yeah. How many beers can you drink? Yeah.

In an hour. We're going to the black hole. Yeah. We're going to go up on the person in front of you if they're cheering for the wrong team. Yeah. Block the battery or, or run from it. Yeah. It's Santa Claus.

You've got a slingshot. I like that. You power up in Buffalo through going through a table. Yes. It'd be sick. Your health is low. Go through a table to read, to reenergize. Yeah.

NFL fan 2K 20. That would be a sick game. Someone write that game. Someone write that game. But yeah. So the, the mascots are sad. The digital fans are weird. I actually like, I like a low level of the crowd noise, the piped in crowd noise.

Not too much, but just kind of that low murmur that you hear at a baseball game that's soothing to have. It's nice. Yeah. Like when you're watching the Champions League and they have, they have that low, low, yeah. Right. They've got the low murmur down pat. It doesn't need to be too much.

Occasionally they throw a, they throw a chant in at some, at some point, which by the way, watching a little football this week in football reminded me that when we did our Mount Rushmore of stadium pump-up songs, nobody took the ole, ole, ole song. Yeah. That's pretty good. That's, that's the international champions. Yes. Yes.

But yeah, I think that, you know, it's preseason or it's the start of the season for the behind the scenes, you know, graphics guys to the behind the scenes sound guys. So they'll learn how to hit the home run button and make the crowd like gradually start cheering and stop a vigil. Right. So that was baseball in NBA. They're not ready yet. It's coming next week.

We're excited. We had some preseason games, which look good. But the big story was Lou Williams and the strip club incident, which so fucking funny and so, uh, this league because Lou Williams, uh, he left the bubble for, I think his grandfather passed away and then he was, uh, someone took a picture. One of his friends took a picture, uh, a rapper, Jack Harlow took a picture with Lou Williams in magic city, uh, the strip club in Atlanta, immediately deleted it and then had the excuse when everyone's like, wait, Lou Williams is in a strip club.

He said, I was just reminiscing cause I miss him. Yeah. Meanwhile, it's old time. Meanwhile, picture. They were wearing, Lou Williams was wearing the face mask that they gave out the NBA gave out in the bubble. No, it's an old picture. I stand with Lou, by the way, if we're going to blame anybody for this, I'm absolutely

blaming Jack Harlow. Yeah. This is your fault, man. You should not. You're not allowed to take pictures in strip clubs. That's rule number one of any strip club that you've ever been to in your life. That's like no cameras at any time. That's one.

Number two, don't take a picture of your buddy in a strip club when you know that he's not allowed to be in there. Number three, at least have his back when he's like, I was just picking up food, which I totally empathize with because some strip clubs have wonderful food. Jaguars in Dallas, Texas had one of the best breakfast buffets I've ever been to in my life. And, and let me tell you something. Lou Williams, he might have been there for the strippers, but he has had a history of

saying that Magic City in Atlanta is his favorite food. They're famous for their wings. There are, there are years and years and years of tweets, like 10 years of tweets of people asking Lou Williams, like, what's your favorite spot? And he says Magic City every time. Yeah. So I believe him. I just love the idea of like tweeting out a picture and then just being like, I just,

I was just tweeting. Instagram story. Cause I miss him. Yeah. Reminiscing. My old buddy. Yeah. And, and listen, simpler times.

You would put on green day. I blame two people. I blame one, uh, Jack Harlow. And then two, I blame Adam Silver because Adam Silver should have a strip club inside the bubble. There should be a strip club. Yes. These are NBA players with needs and that among these are casual lap dances and delicious

lemon pepper barbecue wings. Yes. Which by the way, I never thought that lemon pepper barbecue would be a good combination until I tried it. It's outstanding. Delicious. Yes. Billy.

You forgot the part where Lou Williams has wings named after him. Yeah. At Magic City? Yes. They're called the Lou Will Lemon Pepper Barbecue. Oh dude, he's totally off the hook. Now I'm going to read a couple of these other flavors of wings that they have there. Uh, Uncle Jeff Honey Jerk.

That I'd buy right away. Yeah. Juju Rude Boy Jerk. Okay. Uh, I don't know about that. Justice Magic sounds pretty sweet. Mm-hmm. And then they got the standard, uh, hot, naked, those are the wings they're describing.

I would go, I go Uncle Jeff Honey Jerk. Uncle Jeff Honey Jerk sounds like a good call. There's got to be a special recipe in that. Juju Rude Boy Jerk, I don't know. It seems like either way, getting into like a little hazing situation there, if you know what I'm saying. A hilarious this league story. And then the only other thing, which was kind of a big thing, uh, Jamal Adams finally

got traded, spoken into existence, traded to the Seahawks. Um, I actually love this trade for the Jets. Is that, is it weird to say that they, like the same thing. Safety position is Jamal Adams is a great player. Yeah. But to give up, what did they end up giving up a first round in a, what was it, what was the final trade hall? The final trade hall, I believe was like, uh, they got Billy, you want to put this in there?

They got two, two first round picks, a fourth round pick and that's so much. Yeah. It's a lot for safety. It's a win-win as far as trades in the NFL go because one, they get rid of a player who was not happy. They didn't want to be there in the long term and two, the Jets get players that can't be called busts for at least another three years. Right.

They just like punted on their future and they're like, okay, you can't accuse us of blowing this draft pick until we actually take the guy. So it's Jamal Adams and a fourth round pick to Seattle in exchange for Bradley McDougal, first round pick in 2021, third round pick in 2021, first round pick in 2022. That's a fucking haul. Like the Jets, that's a great deal for the Jets because especially because they lost, they traded up for Sam Darnold and they've, you know, lost a little draft, draft capital. So now they get it back.

I love that move for them. The only danger in giving the Jets so many first round picks is now they've got, they've got first round picks that they can kind of take a flyer on. Yeah. So they can get a little fast and loose with one of these guys and like pick a, pick a slot guy out of a division one, double A school that just jumps off the charts with his measurables in the first round and be like, well, we've got a couple to burn through. So we can, we can take a chance and the Jets, when they're feeling frisky, like they can

take chances. That's a dangerous position for them to be in. The Seahawks also are one of those teams that whenever they add, oh, now we're down. God damn it. Fuck the Atlas. 1110. The Seahawks are one of those teams that because of their like history, the minute they add a defensive player, you're like, oh, shit, this is an unfair.

They're going to be so sick. Like when the Ravens at Earl Thomas, you're like, this isn't fair. Yeah. With the Seahawks, I, I automatically just assumed that Earl Thomas is still there. Right. Mr. Sherman's still there. Right. They blew it.

They blew it. And you're like, damn, the Steelers are like, just when you add a defensive player to a defensive team, you're like, this is not fair. They should, I just thought of this. They should call their secondary, the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone coverage. Ooh. I like that. Chaz.

Yeah. So that was a big story. I don't know. Levy on Bell was not. He was like, fuck that. Yeah. Levy on Bell. He's, he's pissed off at, let me get the trade.

Jamal Adams. Yes. They're forcing a trade out of the team that he did not feel respected long term for. Got it. Yeah. I stand with Levy on Bell. Yeah. People do all the hooting and hollering to get, you brought in just to leave, like people

weird, yo, the internet got these dudes doing whatever for attention, even when they tell you shit, they don't believe themselves. That was Levy on Bell. So maybe I guess he's saying that because Jamal Adams tried to get Levy on Bell, courted him. Now he feels betrayed. I don't know. It's tough.

Yeah. Tough, tough for Levy on Bell. Did Jamal Adams make a mixtape announcing where he was going to go? No. Remember that feels like that was forever ago. Like all the NFL journalists staying up until midnight trying to figure out how to find Levy on Bell's mixtape. Yes.

And then listening to every track and transcribing it, trying to piece together the equation. Yeah. By the way, I think we should fire our coach like just straight up. That was it. You can't have a loss like that. It's a true job. What were the goals in the last 18 minutes? That's the zero goals in the last 18 minutes.

We took our foot off the gas. It's unacceptable. I'm not saying fire the coach. What's the coach's name? Andy Copeland. Andy Copeland. What was it? Andy Copeland, dude.

You're on the fucking hot seat. They were up eight, six and a half and scored two goals in the second half. Eight, six most dangerous leading lacrosse. Everyone knows. Damn it. That sucks. Do you think the outlier are going to make like six, eight box score t-shirts? How do you lose that game?

How do you lose that game? I want Andy Copeland. I want to call him right now. He should be on the hot seat. The Atlas shouldn't have let you in the game. Shut up, Billy. I fucking hate that you root for the Atlas. All right, let's get to our who's back of the week.

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It's awesome. I mean, it's a choke job. We lost that. The Atlas didn't win. I don't want the Atlas to get points for this. We should just get negative. God damn it. God damn it.

All right. Hank, you're who's back of the week. I was back. The week is the Mets. Oh, we talked about it in the beginning of the show. No, they had a, they're one strike away from winning their first game. Three to lead, blue, blue, blue, the save, blue lead, blue the game. And it was just good, you know, like Saturday night, all the Mets fans, I was, I was at

what I thought they went on Friday though, or whatever it was. They won on Friday. They were not to have a win. It was the first blown game of the season. It's just good, you know, it's one of those things like we're talking about the return of sports, everything. It's just like the more and more things like this happening, the more and more everything feels normal.

How is Jose Cespedes? Hank. He was fine. He's fine. He's good. Ed Luz Diaz. Ed Luz Diaz. He blew the save and he was smiling.

Mets fans are not happy about that. It does feel the nature is healing tweets, like when Mets fans just start having meltdowns on Twitter, it does feel like, oh my God, like Frank, the tank who is a coworker of ours saying the season's over after game two and predicting 10 game loss, losing streak after that one. It just was like, oh, this is like getting like slipping into a nice warm bath. That would be a great level in the Madden like fan simulator to be a Mets fan, like a side quest.

Yes. You give up on the jets. You give up on the environment. Ed, you quit the jets for a season, turn to the Mets and then go right back and watch them just punch you in the dick every single day. All right. Is that it? All right.

Great. Good job. Thanks. Good job, Hank. Thanks. Good job, Hank. Thanks. My who's back this week is Alex Smith.

Oh, yeah. Alex Smith, his personal doctor cleared him to resume football activities, which I don't think any personal doctor should ever clear you to be like, hey, go out there and just play football. That doesn't seem like something that a family physician would do. You think he should use the Redskins doctor? Sorry, the Washington football team doctor? The Washington football team.

I'd say the personal doctor is much, much more trusted than that. Well, so now he still has to get cleared by the Washington football team doctor to play, but like just it just dawned on me a second ago that like what doctor is like, you should go play football. Right. That'll be good for you. I actually though think that he probably like that doctor is now sending him to like, you know, the Simpsons Dr. Nick.

Yeah. Go get cleared by the Washington team. But I mean, good for Alex Smith. Like I'm excited for him because like he obviously almost lost his leg a couple years ago. I just don't think that playing on that field in in Ralph John Maryland is going to be a good thing for his leg. I don't know.

I'd like to see him succeed somewhere and I think he's one of those guys that is probably going to be a quarterback coach, probably an offensive coordinator eventually. He's got a shitload of money and he's like the greatest backup quarterback of all time. Like he will coach up a guy that he's in the room with like a younger guy that's there with him. So he's also part of one of my favorite trivia questions of all time. Is it the one where he didn't throw a touchdown pass to a wide receiver for like a year and a half?

No, it's what college has the only has the only number one pick in football and basketball. Oh, okay. Who was it in? It was in the same year. I think who was in basketball, Andrew Bogan. Oh, crazy. Yeah. Pretty fun, right?

That is fun trivia. I think it was the same. What's college in the same year had had the first round pick? Yeah. 2005. Was that Alex Smith as well? I believe so. I believe so.

Yeah. So that's a fun little trivia for you guys. But another fun trivia fact is I think it was like 17 weeks in a row of NFL football that Alex Smith did not complete a touchdown pass to a wide receiver. Yes. That was also fun. Yeah. It's the trivia question is what team had the number one pick in football and basketball?

Only one team ever. Yeah. So I hope Alex Smith does good. I don't know where he's going to end up landing. I don't know if he's going to actually play football this year, but I'm glad that he didn't have to have his leg amputated at least. Yes. Now it seems like he's recovered.

So that's cool. Big time. All right. My who's back of the week is Tom Thibodeau. He is back. Tibbs is back. He's got his five year deal. I think what the Knicks has been finalized.

This is going to not work. Nothing screams New York City like Tom Thibodeau. Dude, he is, he went from like, he didn't trust the ownership in GM in Chicago, thought they were bugging his office and everything fell apart and now he's going to go work for James Dolan. Yeah. I guarantee you, Tibbs decides just to like, he lives in Staten Island, takes the ferry over every day.

He's him versus the media. It's going to be great. I mean, good news for him is I think like half the Knicks rosters old bulls castaways. So I think he can probably just cobble together a team, but it's just that is, that's not going to work. Tibbs always struck me as a coach that is really, really good at getting the most out of mediocre talent and really, really bad at getting anything remotely good out of excellent talent.

Well, he's just, he's, he's all gas, no breaks. So again, you know, game 20 is the same as the second round in the playoffs. And let's just say load management has become a phenomenon in the NBA and Tibbs does not understand that. He doesn't get that. I would hire Tibbs in a second to coach the water dogs or at least to coach our coach on the dogs. Oh yeah.

Yeah. I mean, shh. Fucking water dogs. Yeah. Fuck that guy. You gotta stay aggressive. Score. Shoot.

He's out. Hey, I'm firing him. We're firing him. And then my other who's back is Ryan Pace in his draft picks. So he traded Adam Shaheen, who was the 45th overall pick second rounder in 2017 for a sixth rounder. So that's, that's a good asset management. Good haul.

Yeah. Inflation. Great haul. But you guys only have what 10 tight ends now. Yeah. We're starting to get depleted. That's an issue. See what happens.

We're starting to start in front of him. I don't know. It's just, you know, it's, it's always good to make sure that it's kind of bellicheckian of Ryan Pace. You just keep, keep trading guys for picks, even though the value just makes no sense. I remember when he was drafted, it was, there's a lot of talk in Chicago that, because that was the Mitch draft, obviously, that Ryan Pace went out and got his Drew Brees and Jimmy Graham.

Okay. So, well, in a way, it is the Ryan Pace version of Drew Brees and the Jimmy Graham. I remember reading that article, it's like, he understands his time in New Orleans. He understands needing a big tight end and a great quarterback. It's like, fuck yes, we're ready to roll. Did you see the most hilarious Saber metrics of our lifetime over the weekend? Somebody, somebody DM this to me, Mitch Trebisky has by far the highest quarterback rating in the NFL when it's exactly 66 degrees outside.

66 degrees. Build a dome. Or better yet, just like go outside and light styrofoam on fire. Or better yet, why doesn't Ryan Pace fucking package that shit up and trade him for a first round or to a dome team? To a dome team? Or I'm telling you, like people in Chicago, just make your city warmer, raise a bunch of cattle and throw beans, get them farting all the time.

Let's increase the methane gas. If it's exactly 66, remember that week like five, four, that's perfect timing. But that's not fair weather. But doesn't matter. That's the only chance you get. I'm absolutely going to open up my weather app every single Sunday morning. And if it's 66, I'm unloading on Mitchell. You need the you need the clock on the field, though.

Yeah, I need a giant, giant thermometer. Yeah. Now, do you think it's because he likes that temperature? Or do you think like there's something in his head when he sees that it's 66? No, he feels good. I think we just like we've been in this pandemic for so long that someone just dug so deep into stats that they finally found something. It's probably like a late October game against the Dolphins.

Someone searched every single temperature. Yeah. Oh, you know what it might have been? There was a I bet you I was at the game against the Bucks. They was I might not have been at the game. The Bucks they put up, I think it's through six touchdowns and it was right around like weeks five or six that had to have been it. That had to have been it.

It was probably that game. That's Mitch Weather. Yes. All right, Billy, who's back? My who's back of the week. This is an impersonation. That bitch Carol Baskins. Oh.

Carol Baskins. Who's back? Frank Caliendo. Great job, dude. Tried. Anyway. You did. Carol Baskins was awarded the Tiger King Joe Exotic's former zoo in Oklahoma.

So Carol Baskins sued Joe Exotic, his company, his mother. That was in Ohio. No. The zoo. Oklahoma. Yeah. Anyway, so she's getting the zoo. She won the long game.

Okay. She played the long game. She came out on top. Her and her simp husband. Her and her simp husband. Remember Tiger King. Remember Tiger King. She is now the Tiger Queen.

Okay. She won. There you go. Billy, by the way, we'll do it. We'll do it after the interviews because after the interviews we have the Monday reading, but we'll also just recap Billy's sheet, which is fantastic. Let's get though to our interviews. We have Dion Sanders, and then we have a sanitation worker from New York City asking

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Dude products. So take 10 for 10% off at DudeProducts.com. Okay. Here he is. Prime time. Okay. We now welcome on a very, very special guest. It is NFL Hall of Famer, two times Super Bowl champion.

You know him as prime time. It is Dion Sanders. Should we call you prime time or Dion? Which one? You got to be proud. Okay. Primes. You guys are friends.

Okay. So my first question, and we just saw you sprint down the hallway because you said, can I get 60 seconds? I think you took about 45 of the 60. You are one of the few athletes in the world where I don't care what age you are. I assume that if you put on the pads or grab the bat, you could make a NFL or MLB team today. Do you think that that's true or am I maybe exaggerating your skills? That is true, but I would have to play a limited role.

I know me. I got to set myself up for a situation to succeed and not to fail. But that is true. Okay. What would that limited role be? I could play nickel at a free safety and football and baseball. I could pinch run. Yep.

I could pinch run. I could get in late, drop you down a bunch, a third, beat it out. I could play a limited role. I'm assuming that you've seen the video that came out yesterday of Tio and Tyreek Hill running 100 yard dash against each other and then they ran the 40. Yeah. Tio, I think he's 46 years old. Yeah.

Tio looks good. He looks pretty good for a 46 year old. The muscles on his back, it's just insane. I've never seen that on even a statue. But he ran the 40 right afterwards and I think he ran it about four, four or five. My question is, do you think that you could outrun Tio right now? I get Tio. Out of four.

We don't matter 40. I get Tio. Okay. Yeah. Okay. How fast do you think you'd run it in? I call it NM speed. Next man.

I'm just going to run next man. I'm just going to be the next man. If the next man is a four, six, I'm going to be a four, five. If the next man four, five, I'm coming in at four, four, one step better than the next man. Okay. So your incredible career, you know, you won two Super Bowl, you know, titles. You played in a world series.

You played two port sport athlete. Doesn't happen anymore really at all. Obviously growing up, you knew you were an unbelievable athlete, but was there a moment where you're like, holy shit, like I am so much better than everyone? Uh, yeah. When I came out the womb, no, no, man, when I was a kid growing up in Fort Myers, man, playing three sports, football, baseball, basketball, I knew I had it. But not just knowing was enough because I didn't want to settle with mediocrity even

back then. I wanted to dominate man. I wanted the high step. I wanted to, I was dancing in 74. So dancing in NFL in 89 was nothing new to me. I've been dancing. I've been celebrating. I've been having a good time, baseball, football, basketball, I was all stating that.

I mean, so understanding the gift is one thing, but working your butt off to enhance the gift and to take the gift to another, to another level. That was everything for me. Okay. So let me, let me re, uh, ask the question a little bit of a different way at what point in your career did you know that you had to put in more work and you couldn't get by just on that natural gift? Just seeing my mama work, man.

I saw my mama work two jobs, or dumbly my whole childhood and just that make ends meet. So I picked up the work ethic from what I saw and I picked up the game and the hustle part of it from my biological father and I picked up the consistency of getting up, putting on the uniform and going to work, like putting on the suit, putting on the football, baseball, basketball, uniform for my stepfather. So that's where you got to be careful what you do around your kids. I picked up those little things and as seven years old, man, true story, seven years old,

I told my mama, you know what, I'm going to be rich one day. I'm going to make a lot of money and you ain't going to never have to work another day in your life. And she said, for real, go get that lawnmower and cut that grass right now though, you know, for the time. So you get true story, I told her that when I was seven years old. You get to Florida State and you're one of the best athletes on campus immediately. I think you started as a freshman, right on the football team.

So was there a point when either you had to sit down and look yourself in the mirror or coach Bowden had to talk to you and say, now's the time where you need to step up the next level like this is no longer high school football. It's a little bit more difficult. No, because I came to Florida State to change the game, to change the way the game was played. I mean, I've always thought like that. I remember my first few games, I was rotating, it was a three corner rotation. You know, these two start, I come in the next series and the other guys sit down and we

rotate it. And then one time those two guys went out to one of the sporting goods stores and bought themselves towels and wristbands with their numbers on them and they didn't tell me. So I remember them warming up for the game. I say, oh, that's nice. Y'all to tell me, huh? They say, my bad. I say, you know what, I'm starting and I ain't coming out.

How about that? There you go. There you go. So in college. That's when I started. That's when I started and then come out again. Yeah. In college, Bobby Bowden, I think is one of the most underrated coaches.

What made him, what made him so special? He had, I mean, there's something, I can't remember the exact stat, but it's something like 50 or like 10 years in a row where Florida State finished in the top five, which is just like, it's almost impossible how good he was for how long it was. I think it was more than that. But what made him so special? Bobby Bowden was a wonderful human being, very personable, very spiritual. He's like a father being away from home that we all need, especially in the African American

community. But he had a staff that was unbelievable. If you do the history of Florida State, Florida State didn't fall off a little bit until all those staff guys started leaving. Chuck O'Mado went to North Carolina State, I believe, put Mark Rick went to Georgia. This guy went to that place, South Carolina. This guy went here. This guy went there.

And that's when things start going south. But until those guys start departing, he had a staff that was unbelievable that could recruit his butt off and then develop players like no other, led by my defensive back coach, Mickey Andrews. Florida State has put more guys in pros defensively than anything. All offensive guys have been good, but not like the defense. Yeah. I just looked it up.

So to put it into perspective, Bobby Bowden had a 14-year stretch where the Florida State Seminoles finished in the top five. Nick Saban in the Alabama Crimson Tide, who you could say Nick Saban's run right now is probably the best run in college football history. He still, they had, in 2013, they finished seven and eight in the two polls. Last year they finished eight and eight, ranked eight in the coaches, eight in the AP. So they only went four years in a row, five years in a row where they finished in the top five, 14 years in a row where they finished in the top five.

That's insane. That's insane, but you got to understand Coach Saban loses his staff, what, every two years? True. True. I'm talking about the whole staff. Not just the old CDC. He loses everybody.

And then he has a tree that's phenomenal. That's the difference. Yeah. Did he, did he ever give you any shit about your dancing, some of the high stepping that you do? Because Bobby seems like he's an old school type of guy. Well, I didn't dance in college whatsoever, but you got to understand, when you're the hardest worker, what they're going to say, when you're the first one on the field, the

last one to leave, what they're going to say? When you're playing two sports and you're coming over to practice in between your two sports that you're playing on the college campus, what are they going to say? So tell me a little bit about being the hardest worker, because we talked to Jerry Rice here what maybe six months ago. He told us about racing that horse down in Mississippi. I forget the horse's name. But what was your workout regimen like where you would put in more effort than everybody

else? I just wanted to be the greatest ever, man. I want to be the best ever. I don't want to be the best. And I've never heard about that race with Jerry Rice and that horse. And how can a human be the horse? But that's a whole nother story. We'll go back to that later.

But the work ethic was unbelievable, because I just wanted to be the best ever, man. That's just who I was. That's how I got down. And I'm still that way right now. I mean, I'm going to get up in the morning to work out and do my thing, even to this day. That's, that's why my kids have a work ethic, because they see their father work ethic. When I get off this zoom call with you guys, I'm going to get on that lawnmower cutting

this grass like no other because of my work ethic. So, uh, you have probably the most swag of any athlete ever. It's up there in the Mount Rushmore, right? That is true. Yes. I'm not in the Mount Rushmore. I am the Mount Rushmore. You are.

That's fair. I'm not in the Mount Rushmore. You, you personify swag. Was there ever a time though, when maybe you call, you know, we're talking about yourself in the third person, um, just wearing ridiculous, awesome clothing, like in a limo or something. You just broke character. You're like, what the fuck is this? Like this is crazy.

No, no, no, uh, no, because most of my stuff was premeditated, like most of my stuff was choreographed. Most of my stuff, I knew what I was after. I was always thinking one, the two steps ahead of the media and whatever had, but I wish it would have been a model of time like this, but we had social media where I didn't have to manipulate the media and they didn't have to try to manipulate me and shoot me back. Uh, once I told them I was great and they caught on to it three years later, but they wanted to tear me down before then it was, it was, uh, fun.

It was a fun time, but never did I have one of those moments that I had to really look in the mirror and say, I want to write, well, it's not, okay, no, you never, it was never not, not right, but like I'm looking at a picture right now. It is the, it is the epitome of swag. You have a dollar sign earring. You're on a phone. You have the gold, uh, sunglasses. You have about 16 chains on you.

You're wearing a jumpsuit, like, sweat suit. That was drab day. That was drab day. It's incredible. It's so fucking cool. What am I supposed to wear to draft day? Some overalls, some Dickey house shoes. What am I supposed to wear draft day is the, the epitome draft day is like the, like the

country music awards for a country guy. What am I supposed to do if I'm wearing Jennings? What am I supposed to do? I'm actually happy you answered it that way because it actually confirmed what I thought is that it's effortless, like cool and you are that cool. And then it comes across as like, Hey, this is what it is. Because I know like when we, when we'll do videos or something and we'll put on a bunch of jewelry or do like, this is ridiculous.

We look ridiculous. Let me give you the method behind the matters of that day. And that time that was, uh, 88. My hometown, Fort Myers, Florida was during at a crack capital of the country. In that time, everybody that was looked up to back then was not the athletes. It was the drug dealers. It was the hustlers. I wanted to show everybody in that state, amen.

You can live a good life, play this ball, get your education, go to college, and you can do it without hustling with the risk of, of going to jail for the rest of your life. So that's where the jury came in the girls. That's what the girls wanted to see. And that's what the guys respected in the earrings and insinuated. And I, man, I'm doing my thing and I'm, I'm making money just like you guys. I just, I had from the police. So that was a whole message behind the madness.

But oftentimes you never get to the message because you magnify the madness. Yeah. Yeah. It's an unbelievable picture. I mean, it is the coolest. It's one of the coolest pictures you can come up with, especially drafting. You are, I mean, it is the, the, the dollar, the dollar bill, uh, the dollar sign earring is so fucking badass.

The draft day, it is time to go from an obscurity to notoriety is instantaneously. When I get this phone call, being broke is over. Okay. Yeah. Mom, we have made it go to your job and I want you to, I don't condone profanity, but go cuss every bad out that ever gave you a problem and leave Memorial hospital. Okay. And we're good.

You don't have to go back. You do not have to go back. Did she take that advice? Did she go in and cuss people out? Yeah. If you know my mama, she did. I love it. How long did it take for her to quit her job at that point?

Immediately. I love that. That's such a good gift to give to a parent, one that's put in work like over the years and, and kind of gone out of their way to help you achieve something. And then immediately saying, you're done. You're done. You've won. But guess what?

The gift is, the gift is maintained. That's why the stuff that I preached spoke about the work ethic and all that, the consistency. That's when that comes because a lot of guys had done that, but mama had to go back to work because you're going to handle your business properly. Mama ain't worked since man. When was the last time you doubted yourself? The other day when I say, I said, you know what, that great beer really looked good. I don't know if you should have took it off.

It did look good. You screwed up. I know. I like it. I mean, me, but I could grow it back in a week. That's the thing about it. I could grow a beer back in a week. So I doubted myself just two days ago.

Okay. But with an important thing or, you know, whether it be in the business world or whether it be broadcasting or athletically, when was the last time that prime time looked in the mirror and said prime? I don't know. I don't know if you got it today. Probably calling the play and in the high school football game. Like, like we lost for the first time in two years this past season on, on ESPN and we

won three straight, three straight state titles and we were in overtime and I called a play on fourth down that I doubt I should have went with something else. But the snap was on the ground and it killed me. Like it was a bad snap. So my son, which is the quarterback had to drop his head, take his eye off the coverage, pick the ball above the ground, reset and try to make it happen. And we had two bad snaps in a row, third and fourth down and we lost. Should have called a draw.

I doubted, I doubted that call. Yeah. Fourth down. What was the play call? I don't recall it now, but I think it was a double in quarter high, low backside, double in on this side. We needed this fourth and eight. We needed eight.

Mm hmm. Didn't make it happen. It's two o'clock. It's two o'clock right now. Um, yeah. I don't know what that was. Does your, does your computer tell you every hour on the hour? What time it is?

Yeah. Yeah. I didn't say that. I'm not really computer literate. So I, my kids do all this stuff. That's why I got a little good clean life because they have access to everything. I don't know too much about computers or phones or anything like that. So, so, prime, you played on some of the best teams of all time.

I'm not just talking about football because obviously you played on the 49ers, you played on the Cowboys, you played on that Ravens defense, but also on baseball, you played on the mid nineties, Braves, you played on the Yankees. What, what was the best sports team that you've ever played on? Best as in fun or best as in talent? Both. Fun was Atlanta. Atlanta.

Oh. Grades of Falcons. Yeah. You, you can't get no more fun. Jerry Glanville is the coach. Everything is everything. That was fun. We got a buzz kick, but we had fun.

Otherwise, probably the 94 49ers, I think we had the number one defense and offense in the league. Steve Young was fantastic. I did my thing on the defensive side of the ball. I think he was the MVP of the league offensively. I may be mistaken, but I think he was. And I had that acclaim on defense and it was just, it was still it. It was just straight still it.

It's a, you know, you got an offense that's going to score 30 or 40 and you just got to sit in the rocking chair to hold for a quarter because the other team is trying to catch up. Did you, did you guys start partying at all on the sideline in that Super Bowl? No, no, wait, we, we, we knew we were going to win. It was nothing. Yeah. You're up like 50 in the third, fourth quarter.

Yeah. We knew we were going to win before the game even started. Right. Did you have a sip though? Like maybe I, you know, pop a bottle on the sideline real quick. I, first of all, I've never tasted alcohol in my life. So I wouldn't do that. Um, second of all, those guys is very straight placed, man.

They were like, go click in the time. You remember the old time clock you put the card in and I did that. They were like that. So when I came, I had to open that thing up and like, guys, let's have a fun. Come on, man. So I was taking them out to the club. I was taking them to party. I was taking them to do, do the double thing with a little relaxed atmosphere.

They were workaholics at that time that didn't know how to play. Yeah. I don't mind working, but you got to play too. Uh, so you have one of the greatest quotes of all time too. What is that? The, if you look good, you feel good, if you feel good, you play good. If you play good, you pay good. You knew what, what I was going to say.

You just wanted to say it. That was way back in college. I came up with that. You, but do you like what, what was, when did you come up with it? And when you came out the first time, you're like, oh my God, that's fucking genius because it's true. Like in college, everything, like I said, was premeditated because this agent made a mistake in my sophomore year and gave me a pamphlet of how much everybody made.

At that point in time, defensive backs was not handsomely paid. And it was one of the worst paid positions in the NFL. And I said, I got to do something about that because I promised my mom that she was going to have to work. She never going to have to work. So I had to come up with something and I came up with this, this, this, this guy, which my nickname was prime time from basketball or high school, but I had to enhance this thing.

So I had to do some finagling, do some thinking and do some creative marketing and, and that's what happened. So the dress code went to a whole nother level. I went to my senior, my last game against the universe of Florida last regular season in a tuxedo in a limo. That's how I went to my last game because that was it. It was it. And I knew it was it.

That's great. I mean, it's smart. It's the, the self promotion to get yourself paid more. But that quote, fuck, that quote is just all time. It goes, it's judo. It was true. And it just rolled out the tongue. I didn't even premeditate that, that that one just rolled right up the tongue.

Yeah. It is true. If you look good, you feel good. And if you feel good, you play good. Yeah. Have you ever, have you ever had a bad game where before the game, you were like, man, I just don't look good enough. No, never, never that.

I don't even know how you fix your mouth, even ask me that. I also love your Twitter account because you really enjoy ending tweets with hashtag truth. So true. Yeah. I've had a new organization for the last, I think it's over a decade and our team name is truth. What truth means is trust in God, respect myself and others, understand I have unlimited

possibilities. Try my best, never give up and honor the truth and the spirit all the time. You could catch a kid five years old in this city with a true shirt on and say, what does that mean? And they're going to be able to regurgitate that to you expeditiously as well as their parents. That's our creed. So that's really what that means is what I'm saying.

Okay. I like that. Do you have, have you ever met Gary Busey? Cause that, that sounded like abuse. Yes. Yes. That was abuse. Yes.

He's hilarious. Yes, he is. He's hilarious. He's crazy. He is literally. Yes. Yes. But in a good way.

In a way that makes him pay attention. In a good way. He's not abusive. Not abusive. You got to listen to him because you got to scramble through all that stuff and you're going to find a nugget sitting right there. What would you rather do? Doubt yourself publicly or make a tackle?

I find opposition to what you just said and I'm going to explain. Okay. Find one game where I was reluctant and I missed the tackle. Let me explain. My game was so strong. That was the thing they thought they found wrong. That never happened. Don't you think if you would have saw me being that type of player, you'd have remembered

particular plays where they just magnified that on television time at the time, the time again, you never saw that. That's a vicious rumor to criticize my greatness. Yeah. And I find that very opposed. So would you say that maybe you should have been so good at playing cover defense and intercepting passes because then people would realize that you weren't that bad of a tackle? No.

What I would say is when you reached epitome, Mount Rushmore and Fathermore, when you have never on the back of your name, like greatest ever, ever, not EVER, ever, like EVAH. I'm the greatest ever. They find some wrong. You can't think of a player that was really ever that they didn't try to find something that was not great and astounding. And that's what they try to come with me. You have never in your life.

My coaches has never said, hey, Prima, I need you to come up and make that tackle. Nobody never tell me nothing stupid like that because it never happened. I'd never hurt my team in that aspect. And you can't remember one game where you watched or you watched or whoever watching this said, you know what? He let me down this game. Hey, I didn't say it. I didn't say it.

I'm watching a clip to me. I'm watching a clip from the Super Bowl right now. You didn't stop him from saying it. When you saw the screen, he was driving down. You should have reached over there and said, hey, don't go there. I'm watching a clip right now from the Super Bowl. And on this play, they highlight this as a play that you didn't want to tackle on. But I'm watching it back and you just were too fast that you ran in front of where the guy was going to be.

No, no. I know what particular play you're coming. I'm going to tell you what really happened on the play. It was one of our guys right behind that guy. So if I cut that guy's legs out, which was my only opportunity to tackle him, I'm getting hit not only by the guy, but the guy behind him. Mind you, I was playing offense and defense that game. You know what?

If you lose me, what happens? You're right. I'm watching it back. There's a guy. It looks like a defensive tackler. No, a linebacker coming right at you. Right behind him. So what's going to happen to me if I bring him down in front of that guy?

And also, you were also too fast. Just go with that spin zone. Just be like, I outran the tackle. That's not true. Find another one. I got ten. All right. While he looks for another one, I had a question about playing both baseball and football,

because I don't think it's ever going to happen again. I don't know who would do it. The only reason why, because kids don't have nerves. They're good enough. Matter of fact, they're great, but they don't have nerve. Right. And they're allowing people to put them in a box at an early age. You only play baseball or you only play football and you played it all year round.

Or you only play basketball and also you play AU. You don't have time for the little sport. That don't make sense. Everybody I know wants two streams of income. You want to do multiple things. But when it comes to sport, you got some idiot that ain't never done nothing. It's going to tell you, you can't do one thing. I got time, by the way.

I'm talking to him, but I can multitask. I'll wait on you to come up with nothing. What I'm coming up with right now is you absolutely roasting Tony Romo for pointing something similar out. And I just want to say, I don't want that smoke. I don't want that smoke problem. You can direct to Tony Romo. That smoke there was, was about something else. That was about to smoke.

Okay. That was bigger than that. That where it really happens. So, so my question is when you were doing both logistically, how hard was it? And did you ever feel like, man, if I didn't, like if I didn't have to spend a little time in the film room today, it might help a little bit baseball or vice versa. No, I barely did it simultaneously where it overlapped. And they made it very comfortable for me to get in the helicopter in Atlanta and fly over everybody and land,

Atlanta, and get out and do my thing. But no, that never happened because when I was, when I was playing one, I was really focused on the one thing. And I'm not thinking about the other one. And I had that kind of ability to compartmentalize everything in life, which is not a good thing sometimes. Yeah, but it did happen in the world series. And you had an unbelievable world series with the, with the Braves. You guys lost the blue jays. But during that time, like, were you in the zone constantly?

It's incredible to think about that. You were playing in the NFL playing in the world series. If it wasn't for David Cone, I wouldn't even play. Just so happens, baseball is analytical. And there's a guy, they were trying to punish. I'm trying to help these fools win the world series. I got a football contract. And you trying to punish me?

Like, what kind of sense does that make? And you think I'm going to miss the Balkans plan against Dan Moreno, Dupur, Clayton, and that more and not be out there on the island? And I'm sitting on a bench for a straight nine, not even a thought of getting in. So no. And I'm on a football contract. That's why we did the whole 30 for 30 because of this nonsense. Because I'm on a football contract, but you try to punish me and not let me play. Thank God, David Cone.

And I was hitting like 600 or 700 lifetime off Cone. If it wouldn't have been no David Cone, I would have never played in the world series. So every time I see Cone or I see an ice cream cone, I just smile. I get happy because if it were one for Cone, I would have never played. I did find one more example, but I'm going to let you off the hook on it. I did. Oh, I did. I did.

Yes, I did. It was against it was against Bo Jackson, though. So I can't. I can't hate on you for getting stiff. I ran it through the box of your by Bo Jackson. Anybody would of the freshman to chase down a 225 pound man. This shit sent straight from the hand of God. And you're going to try to bring that up on me.

I ran up on Bo and he pulled my head and pushed me down like I was an infant. Me and Bo. We love each other, but that right there is like the elephant in the room when we see each other all the time. Yeah. But that wasn't. You can't. I'm 18 man.

You can't indict me on that. That's why I said I wasn't going to bring it up, but the clip is out there. People want to watch it. You did bring it up. I didn't. I brought it up, but I retract. I will give you a pardon for that tackle. Is he the most athletic person that you've ever been on a field with?

No, my cousin, June Bull. He was a crackhead and a good dude though, but he was very athletic because he was still stuck when I came home from college. He could never catch him. He could never catch him and he would sell it and I would have to go get it back at the hood and the drug dealers. He was probably the most athletic. My cousin, June Bull.

But next to that, I think it was Bo. Where are we prime with your fight against people who are terrible at using public bathrooms? Dude, you mean the guys that can't hit the water? Yeah. You did a rant on Twitter not too long ago about people just not being able to hit the water. They're just pissing all over the toilet. Is that not the worst?

Yes. And then now you got the pressure of wiping the seats down or defunking the whole bathroom because when you go out and you're recognizable, they're going to think it's you. Yeah. That's true. I'm in it. I got to make a decision. Yeah.

What do I do? I think. I got I got to really wrap my hands up and wipe somebody else's pee off the lips of the toilet when it's just sitting there like a gold treat. And it just makes me mad. And then somebody leave 15 candy bars in the bottom of the toilet. And if you go out of there, it's you. That's well.

No, you have to do if you're talking about like a public restroom with stalls, you got to do the kick open method. Yeah. Kick it open. You got to do it. Yeah. If you see the mask, you move on. You move on.

You cannot leave a floater in there when you're recognizable because what's the first thing you're going to say? Hey, man. Prime blue this bathroom. Oh, lie. Face time. Oh my God. We knocked the bottom out of this thing.

So I'm I got to make a decision. Wait. Now, now that I'm thinking about it, you seem to kind of suspect you're kind of trying to get out ahead of it. Are you blowing up bathrooms left and right and you're trying to basically give yourself an alibi? I will get out. I'm in the country.

First of all, see, look, I PSI everywhere I go. I'm like, I'm an outside peer. I love the freedom. I love the air. I love the breeze. Oh, every day. I get up at night and go outside just to be. Hold on.

So that would actually be more in my favor of this argument. You aren't used to being in a doesn't have target. You don't have the target practice. You're sounding suspect now, but if you're not close to the toilet, all you got to do is just do the split. Just spread your legs. I just love. I remember seeing it on Twitter and being like, what the hell is the oh, OK, this is actually

a very important issue. I do. That makes me mad. I got a real issue with that. I do. I got issue with that. I do agree with you, though, that taking a leak outside is much preferable to peeing indoors.

Like feeling grass underneath your feet and just pissing outside is wonderful. I can't do it because I got bad feet. It's not the grass. It's the coolness and the freedom. Yeah. It's the freedom. And it's like the wind just whistling. They just the wind just whistles around your, you know, around your NBA balls and just just

the whistle, the whistle of it. Going back to the bathroom thing, you don't strike me as a shy person. Why wouldn't you just walk out of the stall and be like, just so you know, that's not a prime mess in there. That was there when I got into the bathroom. So don't put it on. I don't have problem. I don't have time to be explaining to nothing to a stranger that I don't know.

I'm trying to prove myself to you. It's almost like I'm emitting guilt. If you're walking in the bathroom and I'm coming out, dude, I'm trying to tell you, man, that was not me. Yeah. Dude, don't think that was him. Yeah. That was prime.

Prime is messy in there. He's got to be bad at something. Yeah. Like, What a forearm laying inside the toilet. Yeah. I can't do it. Yeah.

It actually would make sense. You're, you're, you know, you played in the NFL. You played in Major League Baseball. You don't have to have one fault. He can't hit a toilet. Right. So that's how I think. Um, you once said rock bottom for you was laying between two or three women at a time.

Do you not understand what the phrase rock bottom is? We don't take the part of it. That was a soliloquy. Okay. A thing. But rock bottom. I don't think you know what that means. Yes, I do.

I didn't say that was rock bottom. What I said is, could you imagine, um, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I can't. I can't sleep in, no. And a 15,000 square foot home and not getting a rest. Can you imagine having hundreds of pairs of shoes and you can't go any, you're not going anywhere.

You can't take a step in the right direction. Can you imagine to have several cars and you can't go nowhere. Can you imagine, it was, it was soliloquies like that. Then I said, can you imagine sleeping in between two and three women at a time? And they, nobody satisfied when you got up. you imagine, you know, um, walking out of the stadium with 67,000 people screaming the name, you know, your middle name. It was a whole soliloquy of things that I said, could you imagine? Yeah. But all those things seem like really

awesome stuff. Like, Oh, I'm in a 50, 50,000 square foot house. Oh, I've got too many shoes. Yeah. Well, I actually could imagine the not being able to satisfy two or three women. I mean, that's, yeah, who could do that? Yeah. Yeah. But that's, that was a long soliloquy of things that I just wanted to put you in the place. I wanted you to be me for a minute. Okay. I'll be you for a minute. Yeah, that sounds sick. Do you, when you get going on a soliloquy like that, is there a part of your brain that's like, fuck man, this is really good. Like I'm going, I'm prime right now. No, no, because it's just, it's a button. Like I could hit a button and then it comes, man. It's a button. Like you got to understand,

like, soon as I leave you guys up, not lying. I'm going to ready to get on the tractor and cut some grass. Like that's the difference. That's, that's the dynamics of the personality. I could be this, but I'm really that. What do you, what do you like to do to relax? I fish. Oh, I go out there and I fish. Hell yeah. What do you catch out there? Bass. I'm a bass guy. When you're on the fish, when you're on the boat, do you stand up and then pee over the edge or do you hold it? Every now and then, every now and then I do. It's a challenge because it's almost like you're surfing and you're activating those leg muscles to like balance yourself when you're pissing out of a boat. No, I have a pontoon boat or I have

this one little round boat that I'm in. The only challenge is to make sure I'm over the edge. Yeah. I have rainbow. It's really satisfying though to pee into a lake or into like an ocean, you know, nature's toilet. Yeah. The water is going to catch. Yeah. Are you angry at all that your hall of fame bus doesn't really look like you? No, I'm not. Only thing I'm angry about is why would they take the bandana off? Yeah. It don't make no sense. Like, like you told me you wanted to be me and that, that was me. So I don't understand why that was a, that was a problem. Yeah. That's not right. I'm looking at the picture right now. They didn't, that was me and what they did. You're a lot, you're a good looking dude

and they, I don't know what they did, but it's just different. It looked like a white dude from upstate New York. Like his name is Bruce or Harold. It looked like his name is Harold. Like that. That's really what it looked like. It don't look like a prime. It's a Harold. What was it? What was it like prepping for that speech when you go in the hall of fame? Because I feel like you can just step up to the mic and just talk. Yeah. I didn't write anything down. Only thing is a few people that I didn't want to miss the thank you, but as far as the speech, like, it's like a roller. It comes in your head and it just rolls down and you, you, you tell the story. I could just see the story scrolling

as I'm talking. What was it like when, what's his name? David Baker? When, when David Baker came to knock on your door at the hotel and say, Hey, you may not go my door. I wasn't going for that. I wasn't going to put myself in that situation where you're going to get a chance to knock on my door or not knock on my door and tell me I'm good enough for your little committee. I wasn't doing that. I was actually coaching a youth football game versus Snoop when the announcements were, were heavy and, and they stopped the game and said, Hey, Prime, Snoop came over to the microphone and he did that. Snoop told you, Snoop told you that you made

the hall of fame. Yeah. Yeah. That's how I went down. That is the most perfect deal. I told him, I'm not coming to them because you guys don't know how they do this. So imagine four of your guys in a room and they come and tell YouTube, Hey, you guys got the podcast. Those two did. That's how it is. They come and tell you, then they take the guys that didn't out the back door and nobody ever heard them. That's why Tio said I'm not doing it because two years prior every year, he was the guy that they had to walk out the back that didn't make it. And that's very humbling. Yeah. Yeah. I never thought of it that way, but you're

absolutely right. I wouldn't put myself in that situation. You want to do me like that? Damn. I got kids. Yeah. They look up. Speaking of, speaking of which are, are both of your kids going to go pro? I hope so. It's looking like it could, could be on the clients. Yeah. Are you going to go, I, I remember, I think it was maybe January this year where you said you're going to be a head coach soon. Are you still planning on doing that in a college football 2021? I will be. Where? I don't know, but I will be. Okay. Are you going to, is it going to be a package deal with your sons? I don't know about that. I'm not a part of a package. Like I create the package. I'm not part of. Well, yeah, you did. You created

the package. You created your sons. I create the package. I'm not going to be a part of that. Do you have any eligibility left? I would love to see you go back to college. They should just give Deion Sanders one year so he can go play with his son at whatever college he wants to. Where would you go right now if you're being recruited? With my sons, plural. I would want them together and I want to be there with them together. I would want them on the same team. I mean, it's going to be, I would like that. They probably wouldn't, but I would like that. If we're up to you though, what school would you go to if you were just coming into your own right now? That's tough because I haven't looked at it

that way for defensive backs. But you got to understand, I'm a lot like my youngest son and he's a lot like me where Florida State wasn't Florida State until my class got there to that 85 class got there and things changed. So he's the kind of guy that said, Dad, if I go to one of these majors, they're going to be the same with or without me. I want to go somewhere making my own. I want to make it that. I want to change the game. That's the way the little man thinks, man. So that's why he chose FAU. I like it. That's smart. It's eight minutes from a beach too, by the way. Yeah, that's, that's a good point as well.

Quality of life. And yeah, I like going to, if you're picking a school and you're an athlete, I went to University of Wisconsin. I don't know how they ever recruit anyone. They recruited me. Really? Yeah. How can they recruit a black man from Florida to Wisconsin? There's a who did that? Like your visit? No, Florida. I had a curl. I had a curl. You think my curl was going to withstand Wisconsin? That'd have been great. I didn't even know how to spell was, spell was constant. Probably still don't, but you think I'm not going to Wisconsin. I didn't wear socks in high school. I didn't want a jacket. When I went to the University of Georgia for a visit, I walked through the little walkway and my curl froze. Come in here. Why would you invite

a kid from Florida to a visit in December? That's the dumbest thing. That's the dumbest bit of recruiting. And then Vince Dooley the top at all. He said, Mr. Sanders, I hear you're pretty good. I'll tell you what. Once you read shirt, you're going to really contribute with us. I say, sir, without due respect, I'm better than everything that you got out there. What I just saw, they just lost to Georgia Tech. Are you going to tell me about a red shirt? Yeah, better than everything you got on your field. I really said that. Imagine, imagine being the guy who wanted to get prime time to fucking red shirt. What an idiot. Yeah. Do you know where he is right now? You're one of the few people. That's, that's because I love you guys. You guys probably

it ain't too many people know that, that I've really let in on that, but they recruited me by senior year. That's crazy. How did that happen? I don't know. Yeah. That's my point though. It's like, I don't, you're saying your son's picking a place. It's eight minutes from the beach. I never understand how Wisconsin never gets anyone because it's like, if I were a recruited anywhere, I'd be like, fuck, I'm going to the desert. I'm going to the beach. Like I'm going to enjoy this. Right. Right. But they do a great job. They got a great program too. Yeah. Yeah. Just run the ball. Prime. I got a little bit of history with you musically. So I purchased your CD. I believe it was called prime time, right? Yeah. I purchased it from Sam Goody back in 2007.

Okay. What was your favorite song? Must be the money. Why, why you envy me also a banger. You don't have to say another word. You don't have another word because if you can remember that song, that was my favorite song. That was my favorite song. And the video was supposed to be at a press conference when all these mics sitting up in my face and I'm talking about why you envy me. Oh my God. That was a hit. Did you write that? Did you write your own music? That was a hit. Yes. So I purchased it and it costs $0 when I bought it. Ain't not wrong. You still got it. Okay. All right. Cool. It was a message behind it. I liked We Can Roll too and House of Prime. Yep. I was driving down 85. That was the thought process there. 85 South in Atlanta.

I had one last question for you. It's our body armor question. Go drink body armor. I'm a strawberry banana guy here. Drink body armor prime. You should be drinking body armor. I can do. Yes. Delicious. You can go to drinkbodyarmor.com or Amazon for any of their flavors. So this is technically, we usually do grit week where we right before Memorial Day, we travel around the country. We interview people out of the van. Obviously coronavirus happened. It canceled it. So we're doing it this week. You're going to be part of it. You're actually going to be the lead. So everyone thinks prime time. They think flash. They think, you know, everything, right? The jewelry. But you are a guy who made it to the highest level, the pro

football hall of fame. And you have to have had at least a little bit of grit to get there. So what does grit mean to you? And where have you in your life been like, yeah, I got to just suck it up and be gritty. Grit means to being tenacious, involving tenacity, being hungry, being a fighter, being a warrior, just not stopping, not with, with standing the mess, being able to do, to not condemn, but condone certain things. But yeah, and still staying focused, man. I was in AAA baseball. I think it was 88 playing for the Columbus Clippers. I didn't really see the vision. I'm in AAA and I'm getting ready to be a millionaire in a matter of time. Why am I in AAA playing in the small town riding these buses all around

the country? And my agent at the time, Eugene Parker, who's passed on, was like, hey, Pratt, you got to suck it up, man. You trust me, trust me. Having the leverage is going to pay dividends for you. And you can really play this game. Just suck it up. I'm like, dude, I'm getting ready to get paid, man. Why am I here? Why am I there? I don't want to be here. And I had to really take a look at the mirror and say, you know what? I got to sacrifice for what I want for that dream that I told my mother, that dream of leading kids out of my inner city in Fort Miles, Florida, and showing them the direction and showing them I'm not a quitter. And I sucked it up, man. And the rest is history. I like that. It also means not being afraid to take some toilet

paper off the roll and wipe up another man's piss if you have to. So you don't get it. At least four times. Yeah, four rapid. I love it. Well, thank you, Deon. It was good to meet you, man. Do you still have the dollar sign earring? No, I don't. I haven't wore earrings in probably 20 years. I don't. I don't. Okay. I love that picture. Guys, what do you guys like to do? My turn for the question. Okay. What was your biggest hobby? I watched a lot of sports. Yeah, gambling. You watched a lot of sports like what's your favorite sport? I love football. I like rugby. I like actually any sport. You know what? I tell you what we need to do. You and I, you and I, because we got to, we got to reunite because that stuff you said a minute ago kind of took me off of you.

And I, I've been looking at my screen with a phone up and just looking at my guy, not you, but I apologize, but I just want to be honest. So what we need to do to rekindle our relationship, we need to plan a rugby trip next summer. And we need to get on a rugby team overseas and actually play a game. Okay. I'm down to do that. I'm going to, yeah, we got to play a game. I've been invited to join a couple of rugby teams here in the United States, some major rugby teams. They know me. They know me. They won't let me get away with it. We got to go. And I have a, No, each shred nas is my name. No, each shred nas. That's Dion Sanders backwards. I've gone by the millions of restaurants or rich black men, you know, rich person, rich black men is the last

thing I go by that name as well all around the country. But we need to go up and assume names and, and, and join that. Cause I want to do it at least once. Okay. So, okay. So that sounds like an awesome idea. Now for, for me, we're going to go to Vegas and I'm going to gamble with your money. I only play blackjack. Okay. I'll play blackjack with you. But I'm very cheap. Yeah. No, we'll do the, we'll do the full prime time, like draft a prime time experience. No, no, no, no. I'm very cheap. Like what I do, if I go to Vegas, which I rarely do, I put a hundred dollars in my pocket and I go downstairs. You ain't getting more than that. That's it. Smart. And I'm going to play $5 a hand. All right. Well, well, prime, thank you so much. It's been so much fun. We really appreciate it,

man. And you're welcome on any time. God, God bless you. And I apologize that I did not have my phone. I had my, that's my country phone. This other phone don't work out here. I apologize, guys. Cause I'm never late for anything. No, that's fine. This is perfect. No, no, no. That bothers me. Sincerely. I do. Okay. We appreciate it. We're going to give you a pass. I forgive you. Yeah. Appreciate it. And we still got some bonding to do because that, that wasn't good. Yeah. Maybe you can teach me how to tackle because I've got, I also I've tackled every bill my mother has since 88. Okay. All right. Thanks, man. Appreciate it. That interview with prime time was brought to you by whoop. Whoop. Whoop is a fitness wearable

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tell them what you do for a living? I always tell them yes. Always say yes and they run away from you. It's great. Okay. That's perfect. I like that. I mean why deny it if they already think that. Yes. Are there any like classic sanitation guy jokes that you make maybe to like a rookie on like his first run or something like that? Just to bust his balls a little bit like what are some good inside jokes in the biz? Yeah. There's a few inside jokes. You say it's picking up, you know, I have the job, picking up. That's from good things. You know, just, just all crazy shit like that. And then, yeah, that's, I first came on and I said, you told me not to stick with. So when you're working, I always wondered what, how long, how, how, how many, how big of an area

can you cover as a sanitation worker? Like on a daily shift, what is that? Eight hours? Are you working eight hours? Yes, we work eight hours. Mostly in the morning, early morning, five a.m. we start and we cover sections of different neighborhoods. We came through every neighborhood of one truck. We have three trucks that do one area, one neighborhood and we just bust the rest and get the job done and walk the street by eight, thirty-nine o'clock. Okay. Yeah, I've always wanted that because it always does seem like the trash, the sanitation workers, excuse me, come during the morning time and they usually wake you up. Is there any neighborhood that you've ever worked in where the trash comes at like, I don't know, noon when people are at work?

Yeah. There's a few neighborhoods that you pick up starting at 4 p.m. and then there's a few neighborhoods that do overnights, the midnight shift, but usually when you start in the morning, you're done early enough. Usually off the street, like I said, not at 5 p.m. the latest. It won't get too late for that. Then a new shift comes down at 4 p.m. with no idea the other people driving home from work. We try to know whether people are going to work, four to 12 shift, and know that people are coming home from work. Would you consider being a sanitation worker as being one of the hardest jobs that you've had? Yeah, most definitely. It's strenuous. I've been doing it for 20-plus years. It takes a call on your body. It takes a call on your mind. It's

stressful, but it pays a lot of bills. I've done very well with the Sanitation Department. I have no problem with what I've been doing for 20-plus years. What's the most stressful part of a sanitation worker's job? Trying to deal with the public is one thing. Plus you're driving a big truck that accidents can happen. We consider ourselves as one of the best drivers because we do have a commercial license. We do drive trucks. We're just trying to avoid traffic, accidents, people on the street. Now we have these mopeds that are everywhere. Bikes are everywhere. It's stressful as a driver. Yeah. What's the weirdest thing that you have found or seen in all your years of working in sanitation?

There's a few things. Besides personal pets that we take care of, there's personal fun items that people throw away in the bedroom sense. We try not to touch with our bare hands, but we still throw them away. There's a few laughs. We've seen a couple of nice pictures that are thrown away that we have to throw away as well. The story that I have come before I started the job when we were training is the trainers were telling us that there was a couch in the South Bronx that had drugs in it. That's a few things that we find too, but I've just mystified a few weeks or if I want to be here in that. Have you ever seen a dead body? Uh, parts. Yes. I haven't seen a full dead body.

Whoa. Parts. When you're figuring out kind of your crew and who you're going to be working with on a particular day, is it the same crew over and over that you work with and how do you decide who gets to drive, who gets to stand on the back, who gets to ride Shadi? Right. Well, I do have a steady partner. He has over 15 years in the job, so based on your all of your seniority. So I would say the driver, he's a loader. We do switch it up once in a while. I'll load a route and then he'll drive the route. Most of the day shift is all the guys with a lot of time on the job at 12 years, 13 years and on. And most of the night shifts are the junior guys who call them. So those guys bounce around the clock working while senior guys take

care of the morning shift. Yeah. Who's the guy that like, what's the best position to have? The one that you have to stick around the longest for. If I look at a trash, if I look at a garbage truck going down the street, how can I identify like, okay, it's seven in the morning. The guy that's driving, that guy is like the captain of his squad. What's the best position? Yeah, probably a driver. The driver runs the show. He decides when we're taking a break, if we're taking a break, how long we can finish the route in. He knows everyone on the route pretty much. You call them customers, all the constituents. I love seeing everyone in the street. So pretty much the driver, because I am a driver, I'll say I'm the captain.

If the X-Miles loader, if I call on the hill, they'll say he's the captain, but I'd say the captain's the driver's the captain. Yeah, agreed. Do you guys look down on recycling men? No, not necessarily. That's actually a lot of work now these days, the recycling, because everyone is staying home and drinking their wine. Everyone's staying home drinking their brews. Yeah, so all the ways are going up with this pandemic, and I don't really look down on them. It's a lot of work. So the recycling route is actually longer than garbage routes. Garbage routes are shorter. So the recycling guys are busting their asses up all the way around. What can I do to be a better sanitation citizen, as somebody who produces a lot of waste,

whether it be in the kitchen, whether it be household items, things of that nature, what can I do to make your job easier? I say the lighter the bags, the better. It has to go for four bags instead of two or three. I don't mind carrying the extra two bags. Just carrying that extra 20 pounds in the bag. It might rip in the street. I got to clean it up. If I don't clean it up, then the phone calls come in. But I like to take care of my route, my section, my area. So I say the more bags, the better. If I got to take an extra lap or two around the cars, that's fine with me. Okay. Are there specific houses or buildings that you hate that you know? You're like, fuck these guys. They always fuck me over? Absolutely. I have a few

on every route. You just got to smile and bite your tongue and just pick up the trash. Across the board, are there any certain types of buildings or types of industries that produce worse smelling trash than others? Like a certain type of restaurant or a certain type of apartment building setup or something like that? Yeah. I have a few group homes and nursing homes on my routes. Those are a lot of diapers, a lot of food scraps. Then come the food scraps and diapers, come the maggots. And the maggots is a nightmare. So I could smell a maggot two blocks away. And then I know which pillar it is. And it's usually one of those. There's a home,

booth home type of thing like that. What's the biggest rat you've ever seen? Oh, I've seen rats and the biggest cats. The rats out on mountains, once they get to the raccoons and skunks at a different ballgame. Interesting. The rats have their own route going back to their crevice in the buildings or the people's houses. Raccoons and skunks are trying to protect their garbage. You know what? Go yours, enjoy yourself. I'll see you tomorrow. Yeah, you'll stand down to a raccoon. Absolutely. That's interesting. We have an intern that he re-homed a raccoon. Would you, if you caught a raccoon, would you dispose of it or would you drive it

30 minutes out of your way and release it into a nice forest? Definitely toss it in the back. I'm a big fan of raccoons and skunks. Yeah, Billy did it. Billy chose the other option on that one. Yes. What are some physical attributes that you look for when you're evaluating who would be a good partner or who would be a good sanitation worker? What are some attributes that that would credit you with? Yeah. Well, I do hear a lot of praise in the streets. I do work in the neighborhood that I was born and raised and still live in. I do try to keep it nice and clean on my route. I do hear a

lot of thanks. A lot of people call my garage or call the sanitation department acknowledging that we are doing a great job. It's good. It means a lot when you are a person that asks five, six days a week, four, five, eight hours a day, and people are acknowledging all the hard work that we do. Yeah. Quick overrated or underrated for two parts of the sanitation business. Overrated or underrated, hanging on the back of the truck while the truck goes down the street. Oh, that's underrated. I used to love it. Our union for safety reasons took off the back step on most of the trucks. So that was maybe over 10 years ago. That's when I transferred into the driver's pool to become a driver. I mean, it was fun. I was doing 20, 25 miles an hour in

the back. The back when I had hair, hair was blowing in the wind. You know, you can't beat it. All right. And then overrated or underrated hitting the lever and watching all the trash get eaten up by the trash truck. It's it could be underrated to it. I like when parents come up with their kids in the carriages to watch us do it. Yeah, it's fun to see all the faces or the expressions of the young kids that watch it. So if it's just me in my corner, I'll let him do it. I'll walk in front of the truck. But if there's kids there watching us, then I'll stay around and hang out and talk to the parents or the kids just like a conversation with them a little bit. It's fun. Jumping back to Big Cat's question about the rats. Is there a certain neighborhood or a

certain borough of New York that's known for maybe having more aggressive or larger rats than the others? I mostly work in the Bronx. So and the Northwest Bronx, I hate to say it's a cleaner garbage. But once you go a little south of where I am, forget about it. It's rats everywhere. It almost blocks and blocks of rats. You pick up one bag of garbage, five rats at a time, into the back of the building, go back to the houses under the cars, pick up another bag, another five or six. So I've experienced it before. I do see once in a while now appear North Riverdale in the Bronx, but it's not as bad as state of South Bronx or or like Northern Manhattan type of thing. I like that we just got to forget about it in the wild.

That was a perfect forget about it too. How many times you get in arguments with cars and like, hey, I'm like, I'm trying to get around here and like you're honking and you're like, I'm working here, that kind of thing. I used to, when I first started years ago, I used to get into with them now, just a more mellow now. I've been doing it too long to argue with the drivers. I mean, if you see a big white truck in the way, would you follow it? I mean, on a one-way street or a narrow street, just in common sense. If you see me down the street, just please go the other way. Yeah. Or sometimes just a taxi driver will just turn down the street behind you, so they can keep the meter run and make a little extra coin.

That's an oldest trick in the book. You brought something up earlier and it made me think how you work in a neighborhood that you grew up around. I have to imagine that a lot of people who work in your business do better work if they pick up trash in a neighborhood that means more to them, that they grew up in. Is that something that people look for when they're evaluating like who they should hire? It's like, oh, well, this guy lived in this neighborhood growing up, so he's going to take more pride in keeping it nice. Absolutely. I do take pride. There's only a few of us in my garage that work on neighborhoods, you can tell. You take pride. There's an old saying, when I came on, an old timer said,

well, you can't see it from my house. Well, if you leave garbage, well, actually, I can. That's why I take everything and make sure the whole neighborhood is clean because I do take it personal. I do love what I do. It is my neighborhood. If I don't do it, who will? Yeah. All right, so I had one last question brought to you by Body Armor. Grit Week is brought to you by Body Armor. Go get Body Armor sports drink. I'm a strawberry banana guy. It's my favorite drink out there. It's summertime. Drinkbodyarmor.com or any other flavors on Amazon right now. That's drinkbodyarmor.com or Amazon for any other flavors right now. Have you ever had someone put a gas canister or one of those little grill canisters and then have

it blow up? Yeah, actually, I've just read it happened this morning somewhere. We do throw them in, but I make sure that our compactor is not as tight as it could be this way. There's no pressure release for it, or I do have to check the valves to make sure that we can't throw it in, but yeah, I heard this morning there's a big explosion because of a gas tank or like an air tank, or here we go, but exploded in a truck and it hurt one of our employees. I do take precautions with it, but there are some tanks that we are allowed to and some that aren't, but if it's all rusted out, I can't read if it is legal or not. So I just throw everything out and I hate to say, but I hope for the best. Yeah. What about batteries? I've always heard that you

shouldn't throw batteries away. Is that true? The big car batteries, the big acid, a few of our guys got hurt, a few got killed with the acid. So yeah, so I try to, we're supposed to put them in the side of the truck and dispose of them at the garage and then a special truck takes it. Well, yeah, we put car batteries and stuff like that acid in the side of the truck with the two bins that we have room for and then we just discharge it at our local garages. I have one last question. It kind of dovetails on what Big Cap brought up earlier. If you look down on recycling guys, is there somebody that, is there a group of employees, maybe public sector employees that you do have a rivalry with, whether it's friendly, you know how like FDNY and NYPD, they all,

you know, they have the basketball games and the football games against each other, things like that. Is there a group that you guys look at and you're like, those dudes are arrivals? No, not really. There's actually no rivals with the DSNY. I don't believe, I know everyone respects us to a degree. We respect the NYPD, the MTA. It's really like our football team plays in the same league as them, where I only wear as a vendor as the captain of climbing and athletics, but there's really no rivalry like the captain of climbing. Where I work, we do share three blocks with the MTA. So it is annoying with all the traffic there. That's the only thing I could see is the rivalry. We have 500 buses and 300 garbage trucks trying to pull out at the same time.

And so that's the only problem I have with the MTA, other than I respect everybody that works in the city. I like that though. I like that people give respect where respect is due to sanitation work. Absolutely. Well, we'll get a horse head into bed. Yeah. Kuker, thank you so much. We appreciate it, man. And give us a little perfect way to get going with grit week. Talk to some of the grittiest professionals out there in terms of sanitation business. Yeah. I appreciate you guys having me on. And yeah, like I said, I just, you just bust our ass out there, keep the city clean. And if we weren't, if we weren't your way, we apologize. There's other ways to go. All right. There's other ways to go around us. Appreciate you guys having me on.

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and we said, well, Billy, you have to have 10. So I think what Billy did was he just went to Discovery Channel because stories, that's exactly what he did. Yes, seven on, we'll read him out. Seven, Shark Week is happening August 9th. That's a story. Eight. Monkey's Steel COVID-19 test. Nine. I think eight was baby raptor fossil found in Alaska. Oh yeah, he got a little fast and loose with the numbering here. Ten, Zoo Miami Test Gorilla for COVID. Oh, then he did the carol bastard. And then he did slim pickings for Monkey Temple residents as COVID-19 hit stores. So that's exactly the ability that he rounded it out with headlines from the Discovery Channel. There were only six

articles that were posted on the Internet today. Half of our sheet is just monkeys and testing positive for COVID. So here's a nice little, a nice story that was number four on the list. Elon Musk denies allegation. He had a three way with Amber Heard and Kara Dela Vignette. That's, that's just like no one actually accused Elon Musk. Yeah, I'm going to deny I had one. Yeah, I would like to go on the record and say that I did not sleep with Wonder Woman. What's her name? Gal Gadot. I did not, despite all the rumors to the contrary, I did not have a dirty kinky three away with Gal Gadot and Cardi B. Also, the lightning struck the Statue of Liberty at number five. Wasn't that like Wednesday last week? Yeah, that was, I want to say Thursday night, maybe.

Oh, fuck. Good job, Billy. All right, let's get to our Monday reading. Although I did, I loved Rob Manford when he was, he was doing his speech on Thursday night. They were interviewing him for the Nats Yankees game on Thursday night and he was just talking about what a great job they've done for player safety. And meanwhile in the background, just like lightning is striking on every single side of him. He's like, you know, we're, you know, we're taking into account everything that we can to keep these guys safe and on the field and then boom, like the US Capitol explodes in the background. So, so perfect. All right, our Monday reading, it's rare because I don't think we've had any sequels. So if you remember, we did it probably, I don't know, a few months ago.

It was the story of a girlfriend writing in and saying, I love my boyfriend. We've been together for, you know, many years, but we go to Waffle House and every time he goes, he gets in a fight with the cook, the same cook. And he, and she basically said, I can't go there with him anymore, but I know he still is going there. He's ordering his eggs, the cook messes them up, and then they fist fight and they've been doing it every single, like every other week for months. It's just important to have a rival in this world. I don't really see anything that weird about, but if this guy feels the need to defend himself and go off. Yeah. So we have the boyfriend side, which is electric. So he, someone, someone tagged me in this, it was posted on Facebook. So it starts with,

so my girlfriend has an issue with the fact that I don't get along with the cook at our local Waffle House. Apparently she had such a problem with this that she posted about it here and it blew it up and it blew up, but it's been removed. I'm not familiar with this sub. So this actually was on Reddit. So I don't know the rules for posting and whatnot. So I don't know why it was taken down regardless. I think my side of the story should be explained. Agreed. My girlfriend and I have been together about three years, met in grad school, graduated, moved in together in a decent financial situation. We both work full time trying to get a head start on our college jets. Yada, yada, yada clicked. This is, this is backstory we don't really need. One of the things I love

is eating. I'm not overweight or anything and I go to the gym and watch my intake, but come on, eating is just so nice. Okay. Totally agree, dude. I particularly love breakfast food. My mom would always make eggs and pancakes and stuff like that for me when dad wasn't around. Their marriage wasn't amazing. Well, I certainly wasn't abused or neglected. There was a noticeable lack of being comfortable and at ease whenever dad was around. It's interesting that like it was a treat to be able to eat breakfast. Right. Dad didn't like me eating breakfast. Right. So there's something deep here. So on top of all this, uh, for a while in middle school and into high school, this punk kid started bullying me. We'll call him Aaron. I've never been super confrontational.

I like to just mind my own business and do my thing. I was a band kid, played trumpet. Aaron would do a lot of the small things to annoy me. And when I showed frustration, he would laugh and get others to laugh. His favorite thing to do was steal my trumpet and stick trash in it like wadded up paper of food and make a spectacle of me when I'd be in the hall during passing period before band trying to clean it out. It sounds like some of that Billy would do. Yes. Absolutely. Uh, I guess there's something hilarious about a skinny kid with acne and a cheap haircut not being happy. I had friends in school, but I was never socially high ranking probably because I didn't learn to be assertive and confident until I was in college.

As a result, school is always something to be endured rather than enjoyed. When Aaron dropped out of my sophomore year, things got a little better, but my social position was already cemented in place. This kind of sounds sad. So when I'd come home after a long day of putting up with shit, dad would never want to find where this picks up. Dad would never express being happy to see me or make him or make himself available to talk. If I tried, he would just passively say something about me needing to learn not to care or something. He was never a comfort. So when he was gone, it was just me and mom at home. Only child. I really felt safe and relaxed and she would make me delicious breakfast style food. Dad didn't care for it though. So if she made

anyone he was home, he would make his opinion about it known. So there he loves breakfast. Is it safe? Yes. Yes. And also it sounds like what the dad's doing is the dad was trying to keep his son as a beta as he was growing up is like, I can't feed my kid protein in the morning because he'll get bigger than me. That's a very common dad thing. Yes. Yes. Um, I think it made my mom happy to see me appreciate her in a way my dad never did. The point is when she made this food, there was nothing but happiness, appreciation and love to share between us. So I love breakfast food and always will. In my girlfriend and I's budget, we have a room to go out and eat fairly often like a couple times a week. I love going to breakfast places like Denny's, Dunkin Donuts and

Waffle House. So we go to those once every week or two. She's got a small stomach that doesn't Can I throw a flag real quick? Yeah. Denny's doesn't need to be included in that triumvirate. No. If you're talking about the best breakfast places, you don't put Denny's in the rarefied area that Waffle House is in. Also, Dunkin Donuts seems like budgeting for Dunkin Donuts. I feel you'd be hard pressed to spend more than like $6. I think their most expensive value meal is like $4.99. Yeah. Delicious. But yeah, it would be hard to be like Brewster's Millions and spend $20 at Dunkin Donuts. Yeah. Just get out of here with the Denny's talk. You got to include IHOP, you got to include Waffle House, you got to include maybe a diner, maybe a Bob Evans even.

Their breakfast bowls are like 2,200 calories each. Delicious. All right. So she's got a small stomach that doesn't handle a lot of grease and fat well, but she likes to have coffee and read her work while I demolish a plate of food. I like this guy. Yeah. He just fucking loves breakfast. Yeah. And also he just like slid in just under the radar. By the way, my girlfriend gets diarrhea. Yeah. Yeah. We were out running errands a couple of months ago on a Saturday. I was craving some breakfast for lunch and there was a Waffle House a block away. So we headed there. We sat down to order and when the waitress went back behind the counter, I thought I recognized the cook. I shouldn't have stared because he turned around and we briefly made eye contact.

It was Aaron. Yep. I hadn't seen him in nearly 10 years. He did not age well and it was obvious he hadn't made much of his life. He looked surprised, but turned back around and kept working. Now I like my eggs a little runny. Some people think it's gross, but some people don't need to express their opinions on the Internet. He likes you. Why don't you shut the fuck up? I like my eggs medium rare plus. Yeah. I ordered fried eggs a little runny. I also kept exchanging glances with Aaron and saw him realize how much more successful I had come to him. Listen, we're all in a Waffle House. You cannot make a distinction between Waffle House employee and Waffle House customer. Once you enter that square building with the yellow roof, we're all the same under God's eyes.

You're not any better than a Waffle House cook. I love it. And my satisfaction must have shown on my face. Was he wearing a fucking tuxedo or something? He narrowed his eyes a little and turned back to his skillet in a frustrated way. He's got like a MacBook Pro and a briefcase and was all dressed up reading some court briefs or something. What could Aaron have possibly read on this kid to be like, he really made it in life? Yeah. My girlfriend was completely oblivious, browsing stuff on her phone. Our food was served. My eggs were hard. I told the waitress that I'd ordered runny eggs, so she took the plate back. I normally just roll with it when stuff like this happens. But I was really looking forward to runny eggs this day. Girlfriend gave me a weird look

about it. When the plate came back, my eggs were scrambled. What the fuck? I again said this is not what I ordered. So the waitress took my plate back again. Now I was pretty busy in the restaurant had we had the same waitresses, she probably would have noticed and said something to Aaron, but she was busy across the cafeteria. So a young waiter came back to our table with my eggs. There were two hard boiled eggs on my plate. I was tired of this. So I just ate them. Girlfriend was laughing, but I was pissed. Aaron gave me a sly grin as we left. I was going to tell my girlfriend all about it all, but I forgot about it until the next weekend. We were shopping in the morning and I remembered how Aaron ruined my Saturday. Now I'd like to forgive and let stuff go,

but breakfast food is special to me. Don't screw with that. I fucking love this guy. Every man has a line. You have to have a code and this guy's his happy place is just eating a delicious plate of eggs. I fucking love this guy. All right, so girlfriend wanted to go anywhere else, but we were going back and I was going to get my damn runny eggs. They get a Clint Eastwood fucking movie. I'm back for my eggs. We got there and Aaron looked up and saw us. I ordered my eggs runny, but Aaron cut the yolks and cooked them into the whites hard. So I asked what his problem was and then I just wanted to eat my runny eggs and leave it at that. It was later in the day and passed the rush. So there weren't many people there. When I got my plate back, he had my eggs

in a nest. Dude, Aaron's a bully when he's fucking funny. Yeah, I mean, you can say that Aaron hasn't done much with his life, but the practical jokes have progressed so much since he was in high school. He's done a lot of he used to just like shove trash into your trumpet. Now he's like going on procuring nests so that he can make an elaborate practical joke on good for him. Fucking eggs and toast. I love breakfast food, but I hate the taste and feel of eggs and toast together. But it's very particular. Yes, I was pissed and this is Waffle House. So I threw an I love that he acknowledged. He's like, listen, any other place I would have just ate him. This is Waffle House. I can throw shit. Well, in a Waffle House, you are one with a cook. You're sitting

right next to the kitchen. There's no barrier whatsoever. Yeah. He picked it up and threw it back at me as he came around the counter. As I stood up, he started to come at me and we got into a mini brawl. I was never that good at fighting wrestling, but I'm great at being pissed and Aaron brought it out. After a moment, I realized this was stupid. So I said this was bullshit and we left. I was not going to let Aaron have the victory here. So the next weekend, we went again. Girlfriend was pretty apprehensive, but I was going to talk to Aaron about it. But then I ordered my eggs. He scrambled them and put hash browns in them. So I stood up and kind of loudly said seriously and held up the plate. He laughed and flicked hash browns at me

with the same look as when he shot spit wads at me in middle school. I slugged my eggs and browns off my plate back at him. Girlfriend was like, stop. This is so stupid. But Aaron was already coming at me. We had a brawl, but he's bigger and I couldn't grip him with the layers of Waffle House grime and eggs all over. There we go again. Ah, with the elitism dripping off this guy. So I slipped out because I'm scrappy like that and we left. Girlfriend told me she won't come with me to that Waffle House again. I also was not going to let Aaron win. Is he addicted to getting his ass kicked? No, I fucking love this guy. He is such a hero. He was going to make the runny eggs like I wanted. I tried to explain everything to my girlfriend, but I was too pissed

to think clearly. I went back and ordered alone and I guess Aaron seeing me without my girlfriend thought he was successfully causing problems between me and her. He's right. He is. He's absolutely right. I wouldn't say that Aaron is really causing all the problems here. Yeah, that's true. It's good point. As a result, he doubled down. That time he didn't even make eggs. He sent me pancakes. But it's a matter of principle. I have to stand beside the fights I choose and for better or worse, I chose this one because of this. I went back on a weekly basis till the shutdown and I've tried to get the manager to come put him in his place, but the manager there doesn't care and it doesn't even bother Aaron to clean the mess up when I

leave. Do you ever heard the saying, don't get in a fight with a guy who has nothing to lose? That's what you're doing here, buddy. Aaron's got nothing to lose. If you get into an argument with an idiot, they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. Aaron's got you. Now I know this seems like just a rant and it kind of is, but I'm posting this because my girlfriend really isn't responding well to this at all. No dough. Yes, she took to Reddit and wrote like an expose about your relationship. I have a fucking standing MMA fight with the fucking cook at Waffle House. We're getting married and moving to a new city this summer, but I'm probably going to go back and let Aaron see my wedding ring so he knows he really accomplished nothing and causing

me and my girlfriend to have problems. That will show him. That's really healthy. However, my girlfriend disagrees with my philosophy of choosing my fights and sticking to them. Like I said, I'm usually willing to compromise on things and not make them a fight, but everyone got their things they defend. For me, it's not about the food, but about not understanding to the force that I let push me down for so long. I don't think she realized how much this means to me. I don't know if I should give in to her and stop going back or if I should stand firm in my decision. What should I do? Well, I think this guy actually likes being in this fight. He likes knowing that he's in the process of standing up for himself and doing something that his old self wouldn't

do. So the second he goes back to the Waffle House and they serve him the eggs that he wants, I think he's going to be a lost soul. He's going to dog-case the car. He's going to miss having that fight. He's going to miss having that rival. Yeah. So I obviously I'm very much on this guy's side. I want him to win. I think he needs to start thinking a lot smarter though. He needs to do like some kind of home alone trap on Aaron. You know what I mean? Like you're not going to beat him up. You're not going to unless you start doing steroids. Billy, hit him up. But like some kind of banana peel or embarrassing situation you can get this guy in. You have to think smart. You have to like get this guy to be laughed at by everyone at Waffle House and that's your big thing. You find

out what kind of car he drives and then you fill up his car with eggs. Yes. Yes. Like if he drives a pickup truck, just crack a million eggs into the bed of the pickup truck. That's what you should. You could also just bring some eggs when he sends you like pancakes. Start just whipping eggs ready to his face. Yeah. Just like find him on a day when his window is just like barely cracked down. Yes. And just slide a shitload of fried eggs into his car and then just wait. It's kind of Monte Cristo stuff. You have to be patient with these things or you can mess with the supply chain and slip like I don't know like pepper spray or some sort of sneezing powder or like a firecracker into an egg that he'll eventually crack open in the kitchen. Yes. When he's doing his cooking and

then he's embarrassed at work. Yes. I don't know. But you're not going to beat him on his home turf. No. You have to find a sneaky way to do this. Yes. I just love this rivalry so god damn much. So god damn much. What do you think Billy? Billy, you... Billy's taking off his shirt and now he's just wearing an Atlas jersey. So I think Aaron's actually in this guy's mind the real winner because he gets to eat breakfast food all day. So he's actually jealous of Aaron behind the counter. Oh. That's why he's so angry. He's got Aaron's got his dream job. Yeah. Because he's like I've gone into all these colleges and stuff and I'm so angry in this guy. My enemy's out here eating breakfast food all day. It's true. He's like to this guy Aaron is basically like working at like

Willy Wonka's chocolate factory breakfast everywhere. Or the person who was like my cousin works at Nintendo. Like all they do is play video games all day. To him it's like yeah you can go into work and you just eat eggs all day and then you go home and get paid. And the last thing I would say is you need to stop the gripe for right now. Work your ass off. Buy the waffle house. Yeah. Promote him. Promote him. To be the manager of the waffle house. Give him a hundred thousand dollar salary but he loses everything. His entire life hundred thousand dollar salary the minute he cooks eggs incorrectly. So every day is the most intense day of his life cooking eggs. You can do that or promote him to that level and then just pay him for the rest of his life and he'll be your friend.

Yeah that's right. Or just you pin a tax scheme on him. You embezzle money through the waffle house and you leave a paper trail that implicates him as a manager. He goes to jail for 50 years. Yeah. You get a shitload of money. Yeah I like it. So we've given you a lot. Hopefully you're a listener. Great fucking story. I do enjoy now. We you know we need to air inside. Yes we absolutely need air inside on that. We got the other side. I thought that we're going to hear from the cook. No all this. We need air inside. That's got to be like one of the best times of his week when this guy comes into the waffle house and orders the eggs. He gets a creative outlet for his work. He gets to kind of tap back into his glory days in high school. Yes. He can still bully a nerd. There's

something very sad but also like very beautiful about a bully from high school like a jock being so committed to how he was a jock in high school that he still acts like that into his thirties. Right. Right. Oh God. Fantastic. All right. That's our show. Great week. Get excited. Wednesday we're going to have the live stream for 24 hours starting at noon and we also have some great guests so get excited. Stay excited. If we have any doctors out there real doctors not the Washington football team doctors that can advise me as to whether or not I'm putting my health in jeopardy drinking 24 beers. I think I am with 24 hot dogs. I think I think I'm good because I'm never going to get drunk. Right. I'm just going to maintain. Yes. Like is your body exercises out one beer per

hour. Yeah. To be AC for 24 hours. Just maintain a little less than a buzz. All right. That is our show. Bill you have your send off. Love you guys.