Pardon My Take - Hot Ones Host Sean Evans, Mt Rushmore Of Guys Not To Mess With, Wyndham Clark Wins The Us Open And The Suns Are Making Another Super Team

Episode Date: June 19, 2023

Wyndham Clark wins the US Open in a much deserving victory even if the course fucking sucked and the crowd was pathetic. We talk US Open storylines and call out golf trackers who don't do their job of tracking (00:00:00-00:20:16). The Wizards trade Bradley Beal to the Suns and Ja Morant is suspended 25 games (00:20:16-00:31:56). Who's back of the week including David Freese, Jordan Love being an idiot, and some Huggy Bear talk (00:31:56-00:57:10). Hot Ones host and AWL Sean Evans joins us in studio to talk about his career, his favorite guests, the future of Hot Ones, and his favorite PMT moments including a story on how he may have saved the podcast (00:57:10-01:42:05). We finish with the Mt Rushmore of guys not to fuck with and the lottery ball machine (01:42:05-02:06:43).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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It's a lot in my take. Is it by barstays, sports? Welcome to part of my take. Today is Monday, June 19th and Windham Clark has won the US Open Windham Clark has won the US Open PFT when we had a final four of Ricky Fowler, Rory McAroy and Scotty Sheffler. Windham Clark is your US Open Winder. Big dub for Colorado.

There's everything's coming up Colorado these days. Yeah, he's, uh, he is the US Open champion. There was a great leaderboard. I love the golf fans that just talk about how good the leader board is on Sunday. They root for the leaderboard almost sometimes. Um, the big loser this weekend was the course. That course sucked. I disavow that course.

I know they're supposed to have another US open there in like 13 years or whenever They should take it off they should take it off because there was no there was no big game feeling with this course It was a soft course You had two guys that shot eight under and the first round tied the record at a US open for it And then the course just got softer the marine layer everybody was talking about the marine layer like that was some sort of excuse The course is a loser for making excuses. There was, it was, it was not becoming of a US open to be played at such a soft course. Yeah, it was so soft that Ricky Fowler who had the lead up until maybe the worst announcer's jinx of all time

on Saturday night when he had like a four footer to have wire to wire start to finish in the first three rounds lead. He misses that, but Ricky Fowler, who I think what he finished, he ended up finishing fourth, he broke the US open record for birdies. So that was like the course was not what a US open course should be. The crowd sucked. We found out halfway through the tournament that they only released like 29,000 tickets and then the LA Country Club bought half of those, more than half of those. They're actually were in the works of trying to buy all of them and so it was very corporate.

There were holes where it felt like no one was there Matt Fitzpatrick said it like when he hit it hole in one He's like that just didn't feel like I hit a hole in one at the US open and then we also had a plane NBC plane buzzing around the entire tournament I like I Know that this is a very old man thing, but I think most people agreed they're like what the fuck was that? Why was there a plane flying slowly overhead for the entire tournament? The LA Country Club? Fuck you guys. I know you're the richest, most powerful people in the world. Stand crockian member. So that's the first L stand crock. He's probably ever taken. But yeah, the course was disappointing. The course was a big loser. Windham Clark, the big winner. Yeah. I mean, we saw the PGA

championship. The bunkers there were literally eating golf balls. If you get a ball embedded in a bunker at the PGA, that ball is gone. Sorry, you got to find a new one. Rory gets his ball embedded. What hole was that? That was like the 14th hole. Yeah, something like that. The ball is embedded in the side of the bunker. And then Rory calls the rules official over and they're like, oh, well, good news. You can just reach your hand and pull the ball out and then take a drop a club linked away. Oh, yeah, you can actually put that on the green. So you're good. You can just take it closer to the hole, made no sense to me. The course is a bitch. Also, the like maybe plant some more trees, LA Country Club. How many times do we see guys miss terribly like when them Clark did it?

I think on the 17th and he just hit it in the other fairway and it was like a perfect like he's like oh, yeah This is gonna be Uh decent angle like he can be able like you shouldn't be rewarded for missing I know the fairways are narrow there, but like when you hit it in the other fairway It shouldn't be like oh no problem. you can still make par pretty easily. Bitch course. Bitch course. And at the brinkas, which is basically just like a dried up piece of dirt that's on the side of a fairway, that doesn't really punish you that much.

I didn't see any creeks out there. I didn't see any lakes, I didn't see any trees getting in the way. I don't like to see. I just about this. Listen, all the credit goes to Winham Clark because they all had to play the exact same course. And he ended up obviously playing well on Sunday. He knotted up when he had to and he made some big shots.

But as far as this tournament goes, I'm putting an asterisk on the US Open this year. Yeah. And now, so we have Winham Clark was, he deserves it. He was like, as everyone, Scotty never really got it going in the, in the final round. Rory just couldn't hit like that one or two puts to put him through like he kept on going Pars. It felt actually reminiscent of the British Open or the Open Championship last year when it was like if he could just get one of these puts to fall and get a little positive momentum. He can win this tournament. And now, Rory, like, what, what, how long has it been since Rory won a, I think it's 2014.

2014. Yeah. 2014. It's Rory. Oh, hey, Hank. Is Rory a choker? So big hat. I was about to ask you this because it's been so long. I think if you go 10 years without winning a major, the narrative goes back. And now it's Rory will never win a major championship. He doesn't have the clutch gene. Mm-hmm. Like imagine 2014, you said, Hey, we'll be in 2023 and Brooks Capico will have more

majors than you, Rory. Who's that? We don't know who that is. So, yeah, I think if he finishes this, if he doesn't win a major, if he doesn't win the open championship this year, then I think started next season, Rory will never win a major championship because back to that conversation. And Hank and I were talking about this earlier, we have now officially activated ourselves into Brooks Legacy defense mode. So when it became clear that Ricky Fowler wasn't going to win, we just started rooting against anybody who already had a major championship. Correct.

Because we don't want anybody to catch up to Brooks. Yes. No, no, you like Rory winning there and then now it's the five club he joins it in. No, I completely agree. I was rooting, I think we all, and I speak for America, we all rooting for Ricky Fowler to break through. Because the world, the story, are rooting for Ricky Fowler to break through because the story, you're rooting for Rory over Ricky? No, I'm saying the world is rooting for Ricky Fowler. Oh yes, that's what I'm saying, the world, yeah.

The world is rooting for Ricky Fowler. He, like the story about how last year his game was so bad that he was an alternate to being the US open, didn't actually play in the US open. Like he was, you know, whatever it was, like seven, eight years ago, he was with that group, Jordan's speech, Justin Thomas, all these guys who've won big tournaments and he never's been able to do it. It sucked because I really do think that putt on Saturday night. Like I think he misses that and he just goes and

he has to sit in his hotel room Airbnb and just be like what the fuck Like how did I miss that to go into the lead on Sunday and I do the course that was the night? His fault. He is a court. It was a course fault. It was the night the fact that they yeah, they were playing It was so fucking dark when they were playing on Saturday the whole tournament was a joke a joke Jay I usually like I tournament was a joke, a joke. Jay, I usually like hand race. Real quick, Jay, I usually like West Coast golf because it means that we get to watch the ends of these major tournaments in prime time.

At night, and that feels awesome if you're on the East Coast, because getting to watch like the end of a, of a U.S. open win, you know, you look outside and the, the moon's already out, you know, that's, that's a cool feeling. In this, I don't want it to be dark where they're playing though. And they did move it. They moved it up a little bit on Sundays so they weren't gonna run into that. But yeah, Saturday felt different.

It felt different watching them at the end of the day. Mickey Mouse Course, Mickey Mouse US Open, USGA do better. Sorry, Jake, go ahead. Yeah, so you guys mentioned Roya and Michael Roy winning the 2014, this is the last time he won a major. That was at Royal Liverpool. Guess where the 2023 open championship is next month. Royal Liverpool.

Oh, oh, Royal Liverpool. One there before. Got it. I can't put it. Yeah, fucking 10 years ago, Jake. That was when he could put it. Yeah, he can't put it. Confident.

But either way, it sucked the Ricky choked. I agree with you guys. I'm rooting for Brooks legacy. I also, maybe it's just me, but when I was watching this tournament, and Rory was fucking demolishing the ball off the tee. Like, what do you hit? Like one like 390? I can't be the only person. I was just thinking the whole time. If if Blocky had that distance, he would have, he would have, the tournament would have been over on Friday. Like Block would have, it would have been over like he,

so I'm just like thinking like, man, if Blocky can get this kind of distance, it's fucking curtains for the rest of the tour. Yeah, I think, I think if any of us had that kind of distance We would probably win the US open like worry. I worry. I actually might suck at golf He just hits the ball a long way. It's it's so far. He's on the flip side On the flip side. I love the 81 yard part three on Saturday on 15 I've never seen that before in a major. Yeah, it was crazy One other one other things from from this tournament. There's you guys take away. We saw

Blake Griffin and Brooks meeting on Thursday or Friday. That's great sign Blake the year coming up Brooks Brooks didn't like the course. What are you gonna do? You can't win if you don't like the course side his fall course sucked his board course. What are you going to do? You can't win if you don't like the course. So his fall course sucked. He's bored. Yeah. I was going to say similar to Ricky missing on 18 when when when them Clark hit that shot going in to 18 in the club twirl. That was a sign right there too. That it was going to be a long day for for Ricky Sunday. So when him Clark at his first win like a month ago. Yeah. There's a second one of one time on tour. And I don't think like his

top finish at a major was like 73rd and he hasn't ever played in a Masters. I mean, it seems like this is something that can catapult him in the next stratosphere of his career. But, but it didn't it didn't have that big game feel to me. It didn't seem like the lights were too bright. It's also really tough because golf is a sport of privilege. Rich people play it. You're playing at it LA Country Club, which I think have like the richest owner, like the membership has to be the richest of any country club outside of maybe like one of the New York clubs. Like it is the elite of the elite. And then you have a guy named Windom, which is like, you name your kid Windom to win US Opens and be like a rich prick golf. I think I'm sure he's a really nice guy, but I'm saying like in your head, you're like, this fucking guy. So it

took a little bit of the buzz away. Again, he's probably a really nice guy. He went to high school at Christian McCaffrey, so like at least he knows football player. Like that's cool by me. They kept mentioning in the broadcast how he basically copied Ricky Fowler's putter and that they're like friends, but would you, if you're Ricky Fowler would that kind of piss you off a little bit?

Yes. Yes. He cheated on the test. Yes. Yeah, that would definitely piss me off. I hope that Ricky continues to play well, though. Golf is a better game when Ricky Fowler's in contention on Sunday.

And, and, and, and when him Clark did deserve it because he was like, he took, he took it at the beginning of the day on Sunday. Like he was, he had, I think, one of those early birdies and it felt like everyone else was going backwards or just treading water. And he was like, fuck this is my tournament. Um, we should say Max didn't play well. He would

tell you that on Friday on Friday. That's true. Thursday he was great. Uh, it sucks. I like, I know people were coming after us. I, I, I consider max a friend. It sucks. I hope he plays well in a major soon because it, no, it doesn't suck for anyone more than him like it sucks for him He he wanted to do well, so I like he's a great dude He'll eventually do it and when it happens it's gonna be the sweetest thing ever I'm starting to make a list just so everyone knows make it a fucking list I think I'm number one on the list of max doubters and haters But so I'll do like a suicide vest bomb and then I'll kill up the whole list with myself included.

Yeah, it's tough to watch because he was he was very much upset on Friday, very upset on Saturday. Then he got drunk with Justin Thomas. Yeah. And they did some commentary this afternoon as the round was wanting to and I think he was drinking rosé today. I guess that's Southern California thing, but yeah, he was drunk, commentating on the the final round and then he was roasting Justin Thomas being like, yeah, if I was out there today, I probably would have shot like seven to eight shots better than you today. So at least, at least Max is better than Justin Thomas. That's pretty cool. Well, Justin Thomas also said whose friend of the program as well said, he's golf games never been worse. And he's

like at the lowest point. So yeah, I did see one fun fact about Windom Clark on on four play. They tweeted this out. I guess they didn't interview with him. He blacks out every single number on all of his golf balls, which is very relatable. So it's like if you hit a title is two or Taylor made one or whatever, let's say he's playing a Taylor made one and he loses that ball, then he takes out like another ball and it's Taylor made too and then he's like it's a constant reminder that you lost a ball that you fucked up. So he just writes over all the numbers so they all look the same to him. That's the funnest fact about Wyndham Clark that I could track down. And Christopher Caffrey.

And he knows Christian McCaffrey and he's from Colorado. He's an athlete. Oh yeah, his caddy was like being athlete on that ship. And then he chipped in and went like 10 feet past the whole speed. Don't try to be an athlete. You're not an athlete. You're a golfer. Speaking of caddies, I really do think it all went down hill for Ricky

when his caddy paled him in the first first hole. I he pales all the time. Did you hear that? That's like that's how they communicate. Yeah, but you can't pal someone there. He's like, yeah, you know, hit this, hit that. You know, you got this pal. I would have walked off the course and like, no, you know what?

You don't say that to me. We got to either fight right now or, you know, apologize and never say it again. Can't pal someone right before they're in the first hole of the USO final round of the US open with the lead. Don't do that. Hank and I played around a golf yesterday and I guess I can't tell you what happened around because the video is not out yet. I can't say it doesn't matter who won because it was a team thing. It was a team thing. We're hankin' our trying together to break 100 through nine hours. Those are no spoilers. No, I'm not gonna spoil it, but I'm just saying as great teammates as me and Hank were

because the individual score definitely didn't matter and we're never gonna tell who won. But we never pally each other because we were pulling on the same rope, you know? All for one, one for all. You don't pally your buddy. Ricky was done after that. You don't Pal your buddy. I have one other thing. I Got to call out the tracker community is the worst at this point because you can't And this is not even actually where you guys think I'm gonna go

If you track a golfer You sign up to be like tracking that golfer all the time. You cannot miss moments. You can't miss things that happen with your golfer. It's something you depend on because I think I speak for a lot of people who bet on their golfer's, the broadcast wasn't showing like 90% of these guys, they just weren't showing them.

You need the tracker to track. This happened before the tournament. This is evident, it makes me laugh. This is an official statement. Uh, another update, there will be no tracking for the US open on this account. I'll be an attendance at Bonaroo. I met might check in every once in a while, but I'm looking forward to a fun time on the farm. As always, follow Fleetwood Legion for shop by shop updates. Hashtag, let's go Tommy. That was from Tommy tracker for 20.

It's the US open. You can't fucking skip the US open if you're a tracker. You got to hand the account down to somebody else. This is, you have, you have four weekends a year that you absolutely no excuses have to be doing your job as a tracker. He had to do a playoff the weekend before. That's over time. Yeah, but you don't, you don't, you don't just,

you don't get to take the US open off because you want to do mushrooms in the woods with your friends. It's a US open real shit. Bottom of the house hasn't been cool for like 15 years in your fucking skipping the US open. Tommy tracker 420. Don't ever fucking tweet another one of Tommy Fleetwood's shots.

You're done. It's over. If somebody wants to start a new Tommy Fleetwood tracker, we will promote that tracker and we'll tell everybody this is the this is the official one. Yes, but you have to be committed to it. You have to be not in you cannot miss a shot. Yeah, Bubba put me on to the Siwoo Kim tracker because I've been betting a lot on Siwoo Kim. And he likes like when he's not tracking, he's some like middle school kid halfway around the world. He just talks about how much homework sucks.

I love it. That's okay. If you're not, if you're guys not playing, you can do whatever you want. But when you're guys playing, especially in a major, you're tracking. That's the rule. Crazy. Not the clock, buddy. Crazy.

Oh, sorry. Why is he promoting a different Fleetwood tracker? That's his rival. That's his competition. Well, does that dog in him? No, yeah. Apparently, he just kneeled down. I'm not the official tracker anymore.

I'm going to follow. If Hank was a tracker, he would take off weekends like this. He's like, God, have that work life balance. I'll tell you one thing. Henry Lockwood could never be a tracker, he would take off weekends like this. He's like, God, have that work life balance. I'll tell you one thing, Henry Lockwood could never be a tracker. The guy has no- No, I could. No, not even close to the amount of work I think it takes to be a tracker. Oh, I can track.

Okay, then you should track when the clerk. Yeah, track someone. So I have to pay attention to more golf. Yeah. You're for my job. No, watch more golf. But not play more golf. You can you're for my job. No, what's more golf, but not play more golf. You can't miss a shot of who?

We're gonna give you a trial, Hank, at the old golf adventure. I'll do it for a live. I'll do it for a live. I'll do it for a live. For racist tracker. Yeah, I'll cam Smith. I'll be a cam Smith tracker.

Deal. See, more work to my plate. All right, other things. Bradley Biel got traded from the Wizards to the Sons. I love the Kevin Durant. What did we say? Like 2019, you could maybe make the argument. Yeah, 2019 was kind of when the super team era started to shift. We've had the winners of the last few championships have not been super teams where everyone's just you know free agents trades all this Kevin Durant just like I'm I'm never

leaving the super team error. I always have to be on a super team Brooklyn Phoenix like let's add one another another guy on a max contract and have literally no one on our bench and we'll just see how it goes. That's the thing. They're not even super teams really. They're just super three use. They've got three good players and then the rest of the team. They didn't even have anybody to trade to the Wizards, basically.

They almost sent the gorilla over to the SEC. They have nobody that you can even offload in terms of getting a match and deal. So they had to send Chris Paul. And who knows if he's going to be a wizard for life, I think that he probably will. I don't think that this is by out situation. I think Chris Paul is going to win championship in DC. But I think if you look at the way that the suns are created, yeah, they've got they've got three good players, three great players on their team. But if you're telling me that they're going to compete with the nuggets based on this roster, I yeah, I don't see how they have

no bench. Yeah, no bench't see how they have no bench. Yeah, no bench. I do probably feels great though. Bradley, is a legitimately great place. When he plays and I mean, you get, the injury start to flare up when you have to play on the Wizards for long enough. That's all I'm gonna say about that.

Like you, it's very easy to take a day off work when your job description is, go on the court with the rest of the Washington Wizards. Mine is Cory Kisper, who's awesome. But he's, yeah, he's had some injuries, day off work when your job description is go on the court with the rest of the Washington Wizards. Minus Corey Kisper, who's awesome. But he's, yeah, he's had some injuries, but when he plays, he's awesome. The Wizards front office was basically, it's been run by the equivalent of just like a rabid dog for the last, and that's probably given a lot of credit to rabies.

I would say just like a dog with hepatitis for the last six years, and it's starting to get to its brain at this point because the contract that they gave Bill, which Bill definitely, he deserved a big contract is a great player, but to give him a no trade clause too, was actually insane, pretty much forced the wizards to trade him to a team that had no good assets to get returned for him, one year after they signed him

to this huge contract. You could have done business with it. So many other, you could have probably gotten Jalen Brown from the Celtics for Bradley Beale, if you wanted to, if you didn't have, what was that shrug, Hank? I don't think so. Just a little sort of that dumb.

I don't know, there was no way. You could have gotten, you could have gotten at least a talented player, a very talented player for Bradley Beale, if you had managed his contract right instead of giving him a no-trade clause and then all of a sudden you have to take what he wants to do. So the Wizards fucked us up so, so they fucked up the last 10 years of their franchise. I hope I'm very hopeful that with the new GM that they're going to try to figure out how to run a basketball team correctly, I'm not gonna hold my breath, but this has been a master class

and how not to deal with superstars. In the Wizards defense though, I will say, if you doesn't really matter, you fuck up an NBA for an sizing, it can still 10 extra money. Oh yeah, that makes you the goat. That's what I'm saying, Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan.

You do shit for the hornets and sold for 10 times as much as you buy in the buy. So I don't think the owners are too, too worried about the product on the court. Michael Jordan, one of the greatest investors of all time. What do you, what do you buy the hornets for? Like 200 million and he sold for three billion. And he didn't really win. What? 275 for three billion. And he won nothing. That's called being the goat. That's a good thing.

He's not only the goat basketball player. It might be, it might be who's better. Warren Buffett or Michael Jordan. The debate should start. Snyder. 10x. Snyder made more money. 13 years.

13 years is insane. One last thing with the sons. I kind of like Mattish via the new sons owner. I like I like his vibe because he's got very reminiscent of like myself on like day one of March madness where I'm like, I'm just going to throw all my money out there and just hope it comes back with like wins and just be like spread it all out. Like, you know, they're not spread all out, but like, I don't care. I like this new excitement of like, oh my god, oh my god, this such a fun thing.

Like, there's no way all of these beds lose. Yeah, right, he's Kevin Durant, here's all this money. I'm saying already, he already had all that money, but Bradley Beale, now you have all this money. Devin Booker, all this, it will work out. It's just like, and you know he's gonna wake up in a year or two and be like, wait, fuck. This probably isn't the smartest strategy, but I don't blame him because I think I do the exact same thing if I ever owned a team.

It's like, give me all the high price guys, and I'll figure out the rest later. Yeah, that's a fun way to run a team. Give me the guy, I want a team with at least four guys names that I know right off the bat. I want some marquee titles. I want to have, I want to sell tickets too. They're going to sell tickets. They're going to be talked about.

They're going to be as far as like the national conversation of the NBA. People are going to be talking about the suns like they are going to be favorite to win the title, but I just, I don't see how they compete with the nuggets. You I basically would grade every trade if I was an owner. Can you make a graphic with three or four players being like, who's stopping them on Twitter? Mm-hmm.

And then like it doesn't have to beat you know, because people did that graphic. It's like who's stopping them and everyone's like plenty of teams because they're not back. But you can at least throw that out there. Like, look at them. Big three. Who's stopping these guys? Yeah. Yeah. I just wonder what's going to happen with Chris Paul now because he's probably actually not going to play for the Wizards. I don't want to say that officially, but I saw the report is that he's going to be traded to the Clippers. Yeah. So it's coming home. They're going to have, they're going to have a big reunion for him. Um, that, that would actually be a fun team to watch.

I feel like the clippers, well, they, they're never healthy either. Yeah. I was going to say the clippers are a joke. They'll always be a joke. They just are. Like, it, I don't mean that like I love steam, ball, or I like the idea of Kweil Leonard. I think Paul George's gotten shit on so much he's actually underrated but like as a franchise and how they're run it's like they always kind of like

fall into bad things. New stadium though. New stadium probably haunted in some way. All right John Moran got suspended 25 games. Yeah I thought it'd some way. All right, John Moran got suspended 25 games. Yeah, I thought it'd be longer. The video that he released, or I think TMZ had it, but I guess he maybe had used it as defense of him lighting a candle with fake gun, being like, it's been a fake gun all this time. It's just been a really cool lighter. Not the worst defense. I kind of like the like ingenuity of it. I think if I was out of silver, I'd have been like, you know what, fairs fair.

That's a cool lighter dude. You're right, 10 games. Yeah, no, it is embarrassing that he had a gun that could be mistaken for a lighter. Like if that was actually a gun and he's saying that was lighter, he's actually owning himself on that because you can't talk shit about your own gun that way. It's, it's also just funny, the idea of John Morant's house, just being full of regular household items, all shaped like guns.

Like he's trying to get a gun. He's like, you know, like his ovens a gun shape his pools gun shape like everything's his guns yeah his knives and the kitchen are all guns his his his his fucking huge sofa is a gun shape like his TVs are putting a gun shit his pool table has a gun logo on it. I kind of, like if you could just make that like quick change and be like, I'm silver, look, I don't own guns. I just love the shape of guns. I think he would have had a better chance.

He should come out with a shoe that's just, it just looks like a gun. Yeah. Yeah. He would buy that shit, that'd be hot. Yeah, yeah. Well, you're gonna say Bill, you had something with John Morant? Yeah, yeah, we're gonna say billion something with John Moran

Um I kind of get why he's flashing a gun on Instagram live. I kind of get it Okay Because it doesn't because because his location is revealed he wants anyone watching his Instagram live to know That he's strapped. It's a safety thing. You're talking about the ops I mean I just your Instagram live always have a location No, but like you can just tell from the background. Yeah, but Billy okay counterpoint What if he just didn't go live on Instagram then people wouldn't know where he was?

Well, remember the video we're talking about, he, uh, it's not his Instagram live, it's someone else's, so someone knows where he is. Wait, so you think that he was like, oh shit, my friends are going on Instagram live, better take my gun out, so if anyone comes and tries us. Exactly. Okay. Let's everyone know he's not lacking because here here's what I say take I hadn't heard yet It it may be a bad take it maybe

But if you drop a take I'd never heard I still have to tip your cap and be like hadn't heard that yet Like if I was on Instagram live and like people knew where I was, I might feel a little vulnerable. So, you're in the studio in New York and you're lacking. You don't have a gun. Exactly. So, I have an axe. How much cash do you have on you? $100.

He's scared to cash. Do you think John Moran's like, got that type of heat on him that people want to go and go after him? He might. Because like people could they know where he is every day when he goes to games and practices. It's a scary world being famous. Okay.

Do you do you think that John Moran has ever carried a gun during a game. Like it's straight into his like compression shorts. I would say maybe when injured, like when the ball was drinking wine on the, on the, on the bench. Yeah. Or if Shannon sharps her on up to a game, just keep it underneath your shooting sleeve. Either way, I hope, I hope Jod can stop flashing guns. Well, I think I still, I think, credit where credit is stupid,

but yet it's been, I think, two and a half months since Jod has shown a gun on Instagram. And I can't stress it enough if I'm the grizzlies, like just do a, like Friday happy hour, close off the doors, no videos, gun, everyone shows off their guns to each other. It's that simple. Let him get it out of his system.

Just let him do it. And then you just move on next week, bring in the new gun. Show us that. It's clear that that's, like just let him have an outlet for showing his gun. Or what he should do is he should take all of his guns and just paint little orange circles at the end of the muzzle. So they all look like toy guns because that's how you can tell if it's a toy, if it's got

that thing that clearly marks, say this is not a real live gun that shooting bullets, he should just do that to all of his guns. That way he just always say that they're toy guns. I agree. Good. Another good idea. Um, okay. Should we do some who's back of the week? Let's do it. Who's back of the week's

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David frees oh yeah mm-hmm 2011 World Series MVP clutch player that whole postseason St. Louis Cardinals got voted into the Cardinals Hall of Fame and denied it. Denied entering the Hall of Fame so he hadn't earned it. He knew it was kind of a weird decision that he was going to wear it. Really made no sense to me. I feel like if you're a World Series MVP, you've earned the Hall of Fame. It's the most Cardinals story ever. This actually proves that he should be in the cardinal's ring of fame for

For denying his own entry into because he feels like he doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as those other Old cardinal's players. That's the most cardinal story that you could ever drop Yeah, there's plenty of other cardinals players that aren't world series MVP's in the Cardinals Hall fame So well that that to me is like a one one. You're automatically drafted into the Hall of Fame. Any World Series MVP? No one would ever have known about this story until he did this. Yeah, he's actually a piece of shit. Right.

He is. But it's the most Cardinals thing ever to get a lot of attention to yourself for raising your hand and being like, look what a team guy and look how humble I am. Everybody give me credit for being the most humble individual ever. Also, I just love the phrase, like, I'll wear this one. Yeah. Yeah, I'll wear, you know what, I'm gonna wear doing a great thing. Yeah, yeah.

It is the most cardinal thing ever, though. And yes, he will probably, they'll probably like force him in. They'll probably put him in anyway. And it'll look like a good guy He's a piece of shit. He should be in No, he shouldn't Any world series MVP for any baseball team should be in that baseball teams all fame I think he got a DUI and we don't stand with that

That's a puggins That's also the most car those things ever Like playing the game the right way and we love learning down to first space every time you got a walk and got a D.I That's that's the same Lewis Hatcher. Yes. I might Jake. Please fact check me so I didn't oh, I don't give a fuck November 2002 arrested for D. U.I. So there you go again. We don't stand for drinking in 2009 so double double and then MVP two years later DWI Jake Yeah, so to do you guys?

No DWI can just be a bit of a big ass as to do off-and-on-zoodie you guys huggy He also has to but that's besides the point. He has two. He means speak. Oh yeah. There's a DWI. I think that's the same thing.

That's one or two. I think they just changed it like a few times. Driving under the influence and driving while intoxicated. I think those are pretty much, I'm not a lawyer, but I'm pretty sure that you should have either one. There were two incidents. By the way, I'm, as it aside, I'm pretty sure that you should either. Either way, too infinite. By the way, as an aside, I'm going to miss Huggie Bear. I know he had to go.

That was bad. 0.21 is bad. We do not think DUIs are funny, but I like, you can separate the fact that he fucked up and also be like, he's a legendary coach that makes the sport better and it sucks at it ended this way. Wait, point two one is in one. He has point two one. He was in Pittsburgh.

He thought he was in Columbus. Like three times point eight. Point two one. Not good. Not good. It's not good. I wish he had gotten a driver. I wish he had gotten a driver. I wish he got a driver. Bad. Do you why it's a bad? They actually are like one of those things that like it's not.

There's no jokes. It's like lucky no one got killed. Like very lucky. Very, very bad. In this day and age, get a fucking Uber. It's so goddamn easy. Don't put yourself at risk. Don't put other people at risk. Bad, bad, bad. Huggy should have like the minute I saw it I was like he's there's no way he's gonna survive this and with all that said I'm gonna miss him and I think that's fair to say I'm gonna miss well. That's 12 beers an hour Yeah, Billy. We know look. I mean what was David freezes probably worse I was gonna say he might hug you might get inducted into the Cardinals ring of honor Oh, look, I mean, what was David Fries' this probably worse? I was gonna say he might, how you might get inducted into the Cardinals ring of honor.

He, yeah, the, the being in Pittsburgh and thinking you're in Columbus' stuff. It's not good. Don't do it. Don't do it. Don't do it. Okay, PFT. Could use back, Hank. Thanks. My who's back in the week is United States Soccer, US Soccer's Back Baby.

Don't, Hank, try to show some fucking patriotism for once. We just dominated the ConquerCaf Nations League, some say it's a more challenging tournament than the World Cup. We just won it for the second time in a row. Our new striker, Balagon, he scored. We had Claudio Raina's kid, Geo out there, lighten it up, dicing up the defense. And then also we brought back Greg Brahalter,

the coach from the last team. So... A Bauer Cup. Well, the funny, well, we tied the fuck out of Great Britain or England over here. Five, I remember that. Then we let him go because you reset after every World Cup. That's when his contract was up.

The funny part about this was we hired a search firm, the US soccer federation, hired a search firm, and then they spent like, I don't know, probably $800,000 traveling around the world. And then they just rehired the same guy that used to be the team. So what I learned from this is that we have to get into the search firm business, whether it's college football, whether it's international soccer, running a search firm is the best gig of all time. You get driven around all the major metropolitan cities, you just fly into an airport,

get picked up in a town car, take into a meeting, town car again, back to the airport, then you fly to a nice five star hotel, then you go home, and you get paid a fuckload of money to do it, and it seems like the best gig of all time. Dude, remember when like I think Bill Poehlian had it a few times, Ernie, of course, see all those guys who they just hire and then they just,

they would get paid like a million bucks and they just hire their friend after doing like six interviews. Yeah, or sometimes it's like, here's a million dollars. Go stay in LA for a week. Go stay in New York, go fly over to London, come back, and then hire like your nephew. So that you're actually related to. It's also like, I used to think it was like crazy. Why would you do this? But it's also genius on the team hiring the search firm

because essentially saying we know this is a really important decision and if it goes south, we want someone to be able to play. Because if you hire someone and it fucks up then you're like well that was my fault I'm a fucking idiot. If you hire someone who then hire someone you can be mad at the person you hired to hire the person and then you never have to take blame. Yeah it's's really, really smart. And it also insulates you from any sort of legal obligation that you might have.

If you don't uncover something about the person's past or whatever, then you could get sued. But if you hire somebody whose job it is to do that for you, then they're like, these guys did a bad job. Don't ask me who hired those guys to run the search firm, but they are the ones that you should be bad at, not me. But yeah, Greg Burholtz was back. He sucks.

I am upset about that, but right now, boys are humming. Just beat Mexico, Tracer Serro, beat Canada in the championship, got another chip, another ring, for the boys in blue. Look, dude, we're rolling right now. This is the Golden Generation. We've got a great young team. I know Hank's rolling his eyes because he's a hater and doesn't like America, but that's fine.

We got a great team. Next world cup. That's our year. We've had this discussion, PFT next world cup, if they don't get to like at least see a lead eight. Yeah, that's it. That's it. That's it.

They need to get to the quarter finals. If they don't, then it's a failure. Yeah, BD is showing up to a bar at 9 a.m. to watch America play and then get blown out by the Dutch. Like, can't have to. Yeah. How beat is it? Tell me how beat it is. As fuck. It's so beat. It is. Yeah. I know. Cause I'm seeing it. Like I see your face. It was beat. At least I'm never going to recover from that loss to the Dutch. It was beat.

It was never going to be able to abort 9 a.m. ever again. All right, my who's back is the Bears, Chicago Bears. I don't know if you guys saw this. Jordan Love posted a video today. I don't know where, I don't know if it was, so he took it or someone else took it, but he had a video where he said, happy father's day to all bears fans out there.

Jordan Love is a fucking moron. So Jordan Love basically called bears fans his dad and it was like the first moment that I've had in a very long time, where I was like, ooh. I think things might be changing. Cause Jordan Love was trying to do an Aaron Rogers like, I own you, I'm your daddy. And he couldn't have bungled it worse.

He couldn't have fucked it up worse. He's a moron and it's the first glimmer of hope where I'm like, things are changing. This guy thinks he's that guy, but he ain't that guy pal. And the packers are in trouble. Like what an in bear and then bleach report even because the everyone's so used to the packers kicking the shit out of the bears and the bears being the punchline on the internet all the time. Bleacher report released it being like, damn, Jordan loved didn't hold back. And it was like, what, did you watch the video?

He literally called us his, his dad. We are his father. Yeah, what's sad about this is you're right. He thinks that he is Aaron Rogers. Right. That's the only explanation. Like he, I'm actually with you on this one. Yes. I would like, I would like to be, you know, put on my, my giant cheesehead Packer's ownership hat

and be like, no, you're misunderstanding this. That's bad what he did because even what he was going for was calling you his son, which he has not done anything to make the bears his son. They were played the bear at this point. Never played the bears. He's just taking Aaron Rogers and he's basically saying,

I'm Aaron Rogers now. Congratulations to me. You can't do that. I have a big update that just came through from memes here. Freeze is B.A.C.U. Oh, what? Oh, what?

Breaking moves. Breaking moves. Oh, sorry, breaking moves. That's fine. No, breaking moves. Duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, I'm Hank I'm a salty B word Wait Hank are you're so salty it feels like there's some tension between you and pft like there's no you guys play golf yesterday No tension no tension whatsoever David frees BAC point two three two oh That's fucking hammered. That's so drunk. By the way, what the fuck? That was somewhat that was a great lifetime stat that someone had that we missed. BAC and the date and like what happened of your lifetime stats would be incredible to look at. 0.244 went out and then lost the Super Bowl the next day. 0.257 woke up in my girlfriend's roommates bed.

Hypothetic. 0.0.2 got kissed by my best bro at the bar. Oh, uh, two got kissed by my best bro at the bar. Those brothers Max came here. You're just big cats. I don't think they got a good one. It was a good one. That's totally sour. Anything, anything happened to you this weekend, Max?

Anything on film? They will talk when's their Friday. Derek, you're here. You're here. Max wants nothing to do with talking about this. We can wait. We'll talk when's their Friday Here's a lot for right here Max wants nothing to do with talking about this we can wait wait wait wait till we're on first Yeah, I'll do a film breakdown if you don't want to know what you're talking about if you're listening and you might understand I will post the video again on my Twitter. I'll retreat it in the morning just so people For the show. Yeah, for the show. Yeah. I'll retreat it

But yes, we will talk we'll all be together on Tuesday So we will bring down then either way my who's back is the bears because Jordan love Your clown like it really was Aaron Rogers Did own me. He was my he was my daddy He like any talking any shit. He talked he could do it because I was like There's nothing I can say this guy can't even get the simplest joke right? What a moron Mm-hmm the the first game drum missing of the 2004 Yankees red socks when Martina is called the Yankees his daddy And then the chance when he was pitching were all time like the Hoosier daddy. Like that will be electric in Chicago for a son of a-

If the Bears beat the Packers week one, that clip is going to be, I'll just tweet it every single day. Like I'll just, I don't know how you could be that dumb. It makes me think he won't learn to play. So I'm excited. All right. Real quick, Hank, since we're talking about Aaron Rodgers,

I want to get your comment on the story that broke. I think it was last Thursday, maybe last Friday. Regarding your patriots, that the patriots tried to trade for Aaron Rodgers. First of all, I thought that you love Mac Jones. Second of all, Aaron Rodgers rejected the trade. He didn't want to play for, I guess he wanted to do a two quarterback system with him and Bill Bellachek at the same time playing quarterback. But I'm just curious

to know from your perspective, I thought it was a flora report. I thought you were all in on Mac Jones. It might be. It might be. I'm like, I don't know what you're talking about, but I'm assuming that your dad is whipped up, webbed up a nice web of, you know, tall tales and webbed up a web. Yeah. webbed up web. Yeah. You're up and up. Yeah. Okay. Billy. My who's back at the week is Diamondback Terrapins. So it was fall. They forgot where? No, they were they were breeding.

They were getting their. No, they went away for a little bit in like the early 2000s. They were endangered back then. So I was my dad wanted to go to the beach, so we were at the beach it's Friday's day. I was driving on a road, and I noticed there was a bunch of turtles crossing the road. Probably didn't nest, they were probably females looking to lay eggs, so I pulled over the car and I was picking up turtles that were trying to cross the road and I realized there was a lot of them and I was ending up stopping traffic and I was picking them all up, putting them in a bucket in the back seat that I had and what

ended up happening was is that to do what with them? No, so I was going to deposit them on the other side of the road, but the thing was Do you mean just like pick up and then put down again? Yeah, but there's so there's so many of them Anyway, the cops I literally almost got arrested the cops pulled up on me Picking up these turtles and my dad was being like my dad was what the fuck are you doing? No, my dad was like what the fuck are you doing like just like keep driving he doesn't get it So what's does he get he doesn't get that I'm stopping the car trying to pick up turtles to make sure they get to their nesting point Anyway, he is your sons or you he is your father, so he should get a lot of this. No, no he he still doesn't get it You know 16 years later. So the cops pull up to me and they're like, what are you doing?

Why do you have 15 turtles in the back of your car native turtles? This is technically a felony if you're collecting these for whatever reason and I was like look I'm just trying to put them back on the other side of the road so they don't get run over I know they're in danger like yeah you're collecting an endangered species it was uh in the end we put them on the other side of the road and I didn't get arrested but it was little touch-and-go because the cops were pretty pissed that I was collecting turtles I think you are chiefs of holic man I really do it also sounds like you It was a little touch and go because the cops were pretty pissed that I was collecting turtles.

I think you are chiefs of holic man. I really do. It also sounds like you definitely were collecting them and got caught. I was going to put them to the breeding grounds. I was going to put them on the other side of the road. And the breeding grounds in your backyard. Also you're going to like one of them happen to stay in your truck. Look, you know, whatever got put out got put out, maybe some ended up in my truck.

There's no worries about that. No one knows. Okay. How much? How much is one of these? They go for about 15, they go for about 1500 on the free market. All right. Just one and you found a back therapist. 20 They're very they're very endangered. They're very beautiful

Cap some no I didn't I was going Cops came right off the top of your head how much it costs no no less you know the cops came and I put the turtles back You know maybe give the cops one you take one put put eight back look i may have brought the cop with the turtle but i don't think that's that's for uh... public consumption you know same that happens felt that the back of this truck i don't know what this yeah i don't know what to say and it was clear you were trying to steal some terrible

turtles for money And you got caught no look they're very expensive turtles and right, you know Because they're an endangered species Billy. They're they're very endangered. We don't have to talk about it Because the black market traders like you look look look, you know I made sure they didn't get run over there was a couple couple run over on the road. Running over a turtle is the most demoralizing thing ever because you hear the pop of the shell. We don't have to talk about that. Jake, what's that?

Money wasted. Wait, wait, wait, wait, dead ones on the road? Yeah, it was carnage, it was terrible. So I started pulling over and picking them all up. Then the cops came and they were asking me what I was doing. I was like, hey, I'm trying to get these turtles to safety. Definitely not doing selling these. I'm not selling these turtles for 1,500 a pop.

Look, look, look, I had about like 10 grand with the turtles. And yeah, yeah, you're finding like runaway juveniles and you're putting them into your car and driving away with them so that they can breed. You're basically Jeffreyery Epstein. No, no, listen to this. If you have 18K worth of turtles in the back of your truck, in China, they sell for like probably 2500 each. You're riding a little high at that point.

But, anyway, Jake, what's your hoosback of the week? Thank you, Billy. My hoosback is the College World Series. It was an opening, exciting opening week, and an Omaha. We had a walkoff in the top of the ninth inning. We had some Cinderella with oral Roberts. And we have Frank the Tank, Mini, Peyton, Manning. So a lot of storylines.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold on Jay hold on Jake that's funny you mentioned the oral Roberts um TCU game did you want to say anything about the call? Yeah I said we had to walk off on the top of the nine. Okay all right but but but maybe let's put this guy to task let's you know like what yeah we're just gonna do the our average I Figure we would expand car average and read his statement So for those unaware of what statement about what he tweeted it. He tweeted about like Andrew Martian said tough Look for him and then can you redo the call for the for the listeners that didn't hear it. Yeah, let me And this one is hit into left field. Did he get it? Yes, sir

walk off Hitter Roberts rallies and Winds it top of the night top of the night. Hmm. Yeah So car average ass statement it was all on me come back and do it again tomorrow. My bad. I wear this one. Yeah, listen, he's at a point in his career where he can get away with something like that like Kenny There's onto tomorrow for him a lot of people not onto tomorrow. I hope to get to that level one day

I don't know when When you say we're on to tomorrow, he just basically re re hired himself. He's like, I'm not, I'm not getting fired because I'm already on to tomorrow. I couldn't watch any of the college baseball rest of the weekend. Because I was like, how can I trust these guys? Sad. Chris came into the room. He's like, daddy, I thought that there was a bottle of the ninth inning. What's what's Mr. Rabbits telling me on television? I didn't know what to say. Yeah, it was, it was so bad because we do like call Ravich

but man, it was the double down that killed him when he was like, he was like, yeah, it wasn't walk off like, yeah. And then he realized that he was wrong. That was, it was tough. It was a bad, bad look. Thank God they won that game because if they blew it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was tough. It was a bad, bad look. Thank God they won that game because if they blew it, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, big time.

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Let's start here. What do you think of the studio? Because you're probably like one of the last interviews we're gonna do in the studio. We can end up for you. It looks like it might be on its last lags, but I shouldn't talk, because we have kind of an embarrassing studio sometimes.

That like we bring guests to it, it's like a little bit of a chicken coop. This does translate better to video than it does in person. Okay, that's not like my dad. Yeah, that's right, put this one at. Yeah, because your studio, you play it smart. It's like just very clean and minimal when you see it. Yeah, yeah.

So when you see it on YouTube, but when you look behind the scenes, I'm sure that that's a shock. We put all of our dirty laundry out. So people when they come in, they might be pleasantly surprised that there's not actually like, I don't know, animals living around here.

But I like it because it's honest. You know what I mean? It's an honest set, you know? So, and that way it's kind of comfortable and I feel good about it. That actually, like one of the great things about your show, and I don't know, you can tell me if it was intentional or not,

I always think that when people try to do internet shows that look like TV shows, they fail. Yeah, right. Because the internet, there should be a little bit more, there shouldn't be as much of a barrier between you and the audience, like a big ESPN sports center set. So when you guys were designing your show, was that a thought being like, Hey, we don't

need to make it like big green screens and shit. Yeah. No, it was just an unintended consequence, really. Like we were just broke. So we just had to do something with the least amount of money as possible. And then that solution is just like hanging black curtains from the ceiling. But it ended up being like the best thing that we did because the show travels now and that's how we kind of punch above our weight class

with gases because we can just pop up wherever. So it was like one of the great gifts and I always think like even if they gave us a bigger budget, I don't even know how we'd spend it. You know, like even if it came in, I don't think doing those kinds of improvements, do anything for the show. If anything, I think it like undermines or undercuts it. You know, like even if it came in, I don't think doing those kinds of improvements do anything for the show. If anything, I think it like undermines or undercuts it. Yeah. So that black curtains, you upgrade the material and the shit that's hanging out.

Maybe, I mean, we could do better with shapes and materials, you know, as we go on. Yeah, I like that. I like that. I like that. It sounds similar to, I mean, you know, the start of this show, we were doing it on Zoom in Skype. And a lot of it is like watching people watch from day one where it's not like this big production day one right out of the gate, because then you can always get bigger. You can always grow. You can always get to this point.

Right. But if you started that point, people are expecting for me. That's like when we had a show for one day, as you know. We're like, we don't want a big studio, we couldn't afford a big studio, but we wanted it specifically to look like shit. So people weren't expecting it to be some beautiful cinematography.

People root for an underdog, and I think that works for the sets, that works for the shows. Yeah, are there any hot ones truthers out there? I was thinking about it, but I'm like, interesting. That says, like the sauce actually isn't that hot. They're acting.

So, okay, well, I like that idea. And here's what I would say, is at this point, you know, we've had hundreds and hundreds of guests. If that were the case, you know, we don't have anyone signed an NDA or anything. You think that would leak out. And then the thing with me, you know, I'm a chicken wing talk show host of the highest dignity.

You know, if people switch boards with me I'll switch boards with them, you know like I go through that whole thing Oh exactly with the little little like princess bride. Yeah, so I feel like we're fully buttoned up Like a truth or doesn't have an inch to breathe with this show. I don't think you know, right? But I guess that could be a challenge for you. P.F. I get bored. Yeah, I think I think like if you don't have truthers There's still room for the show to grow. Yeah, right, right.

That's like the last frontier that you can conquer when there are people that are psycho enough out there to actually think that. Are there haters? Do you have any haters? It seems like you're the most likable person on the internet. Thank you. Well, I'd say the same for you guys.

I don't know, I guess it would be, I bet we probably get the same thing because we've both been going on for about the same length of time. Where the thing that I'd get would be, you guys have changed. I guess people have gotten more famous or whatever. It's like, the show's not like, what are you?

It should be like that sort of thing I kind of get. Yeah. But I'm also not like super, I don't really like check on it or like see it that much. I guess everybody kind of sees their own shit. But that's the thing that probably, I the most is like the shows change or whatever, but I always think that's weird, because I feel like the show just hasn't changed at all. It's just like the same side, it's, hey, what's going on everybody,

it's this camera, that camera, whatever, so it's like the exact same show. I actually think the better criticism is that we haven't changed enough, but that's probably like the most common one. Right. And that also, when we get stuff like that, I hear it, people will say both, they'll be like, oh, you guys have changed. I think we get more like, oh, you guys are still doing the same show.

It's like, well, we have fun. The sports calendar keeps moving. It's like your guests keep changing. Yes, yes, yes. And yeah, like, I think there's something, there's fatigue, because we're in such a weird time in media where everything is new. There's definitely fatigue for any, like if you listen to the same podcast over and over

every day, eventually you're gonna be like, oh, maybe I need to take a break. But then you might come back and I think a lot of the people come back. So it's like, I never take offense when someone's like, oh, I took a break. And I think if you do anything for more than 18 months, that starts. Like people started saying that to me like season three of the show. And then it like keeps, you know what I mean so then you just you become kind of De-sensitized to what I guess right and it's also the loudest like vocal minority We always have to remind ourselves like if people are like all you guys suck now

It's like what about like the hundreds of thousands of people who don't have a Twitter account We're just listening to us and enjoying us every day. Yeah, right. People who don't have a YouTube commenter, they're not a YouTube comment, they're watching it, they watch it, they enjoy it, that they go on with their life. Yeah, yeah. I guess that's most people and then I always think like, you know, it's not like I just burst through your wall like the cool-aid man. Right. Here's an episode of Hot Ones. You have to click like three things in order to get there. Yeah. Yeah. Do you read the YouTube comments? I like the YouTube comments, you know, like I'm not jaded by it.

I kind of like them. Uh, when a new episode comes out, you know, on Thursday night, I'll kind of scroll through it and see what floats to the top there. And sometimes I'm like nice classic episodes. If I'm feeling a little down, it's like a picture of like an ex- Oh, look at her something like that. It's right. I'll go back to a classic episode and just kind of like, marinate it for a second.

So yeah, YouTube comments, I like, I appreciate the YouTube comments. Yeah, I love the first guys on YouTube, especially the guys that come in like a week late. Yeah, I comment first. YouTube comments seem like they're more positive in general than other things. Yeah, that's what I think.

Or it just feels like connected to the show, which makes sense because it's a discovery platform. So people probably find you early on and then they have makes sense because it's a discovery platform. So people probably find you early on and then they have a connection to it and grow with it. So I always feel the YouTube comments, it just feels like people who really watch and like the show. I guess, yeah.

Yeah, what, so tell me like the backstory of when you first came out, because it is one of those genius ideas that I think a lot of people independently will like, oh, like we should do a show where we put the guests kind of under pressure. You did it first. Yeah. What I know some of it, but for our audience, like the idea and the first, you know, test of it and being like, oh, I think we have something. What was that moment? So the moment, so basically what happened was first we feast was a food blog text, like sort of the intersection of food and pop culture,

but you know, in 2015, everyone's like, we're pivoting to video, everyone's got a pivot to video. So we had to come up with a video product. We were working in a magazine office, similar to this, you'd see celebrities walking the halls all the time. So we were like, well, maybe a celebrity interview show would be viable, you know, like just for our proximity to it. And then Chris

Schoenberger, who is the general manager of first week feast, he was like, well, you know, we should do a celebrity interview show. Celebrity interview shows are boring. How do we make them not boring? And he was like, well, what if we interviewed celebrities, but had them increasingly spicy chicken wings over the course of the interview as a way to break them down? And then I was like, dude, you're a fucking genius. So we started hammering out a pilot and then we shot it with Tony Yeo from G unit. That was our first ever episode. And then we just kind of never stopped making them.

And I recognized pretty early on that it had potential. The first shoot was like machine gun Kelly and a red leather jacket doing laps around the studio, swearing up the storm and it was so insane. In the studio, it felt so gone zone off the wall that I'm like, this is going to translate to video and just be something that people haven't seen before. You know, it was just so like I could recognize the hit of it all in that room. But no one gave a shit about the show at first.

It was actually like I used to joke with Chris all the time. I'm eating a lot of really spicy food and no one cares. You know, like, I don't know how long I can stay on this pace. And then our first real breakout episode was the key and peel episode. And that was trending and front page of Reddit and all of those sorts of things. And the show was just kind of off from there. There's these like tent pole episodes along the way. But that's more or less kind of how the plane got off the ground.

I'd imagine Paul Rudd. Yeah. Like that, I mean, that you became like everyone uses that gift all the time. You know what's funny though, is in that moment, I didn't recognize it as anything. Yeah. And then I've talked to Paul Rudd since then. I remember being like, when you said, look at us, did you?

He goes, I'll be honest, I didn't even remember it when I walked out of the room. He's like, people are just yelling, look at us, look at us, did you? He goes, I'll be honest, I didn't even remember it when I walked out of the room. He's like, people are just yelling, look at us, look at us on the street. And then eventually somebody got to him and be like, oh, have you seen this thing? But I didn't even know that that would be a thing and that's broken containment and gotten almost bigger than the show itself.

It's perfect. It's like a little encapsulated moment, but it was such a small part of that interview because I think it was like 30 minutes long. Yeah, right. And it was in the middle of a much bigger like Connecting bro moment that you guys had where he was telling you like you're good at basketball You should have been caught from your high school basketball team. That's right And when I watched after the first time I was like that's Paul runs a sweet guy

Yeah, and then I and then everybody yeah, they just zeroed in on that one moment. Look at us Yeah, did you actually feel better after that interview? Did he actually gas you up? You know what? I do after a lot of the interviews. Counter to what you might think, there are very positive experiences. And then when you mess with spicy foods, you can get a head high off of them.

So it's kind of like you end up in this bizarre abstract place with the gas where you're just kind of in space. And I've come to enjoy it as spicy as it is, like the twilight hours of an interview, or my favorite parts of the Hollywood interview. Has there been a time when like celebrity comes in and they're doing a press junket that they're at for a movie or something?

And their publicist has not adequately prepared them and they're not familiar with the show. And they're coming in like trying to give canned answers and battle, because that's really a battle. When you go, the genius of the interview format is, you can't give canned answers and battle, because that's really a battle. When you go, the genius of the interview format is you can't give canned answers when you're feeling physical interruption and how your brain works.

Has there ever been somebody that tries to keep doing that? I mean, the early days, I remember, I was just talking about this, feeling almost embarrassed by the show, you know, because we would seriously, like let's say there's a junket, right? And it's at the Beverly Hills Hotel. We would rent a suite and then literally just hang black sheets from a suite.

And so whoever, like Charlize Theron would go to like an elevator downstairs, come up and then walk into this suite with just sheets hanging and the bed pushed up against the wall and then me just standing there with the hot sauces and just being like, sorry. You know, like they walk in and the publicist is trying to top line it like while they're walking in and then she's like looking at you like,

are we eating all of this? You know like that and it's, we've already started it off and I feel, let's just a tears of a clown sad situation. You know, so that used to happen kind of all of the time, but I guess what's changed, and so I think now people walk in with a mindset, almost like, you know how if you'd walk into a Howard Stern interview,

it would be a different mindset. You're like, I'm doing the Howard Stern interview. It's gonna happen. Now I'm fucked. Exactly. Like that's not an outrageous question from Howard Stern because you know you're doing the Howard Stern interview. I think now a lot of times people come in and then they're ready to do their internet interview of record or whatever.

So I feel like they come in ready to melt their face off, ready to kind of bear their soul in a way that's unique and go through this crazy experience and have this career-spanning interview. So, but in the beginning it was always like that. Just I saw a publicist deal making and bargaining in real time right in front of me while I just stood there, sat there pathetically in front of the hot sauces and the wing. I would watch a compilation of interviews from those early days of celebrities on the junkets that they had to do an interview right after your interview. Right. See like the lingering heat and trying to deal with like an actual okay back to reality interview, we like entertainment tonight or whatever and they've got hot sauce

all over their face. That would be awesome. Exactly. Yeah. It's a bit in the mic. But um, I, uh, well sometimes what they'll do because Fallon when we are on 50th Street, Fallon was right across the street. So somebody would come in, you know, dress like they're going to dress on Fallon and then walk right across the street to do Fallon after doing hot ones. Now we tell people all the time, because we were amazed how often we'd be like at 10 a.m. 11 a.m. interview

and then they'd have a full day of press afterwards. And now we just tell people like, we're like a four o'clock, you wanna do us at the end, do you? Right, right, at the very end. Who's your white whale? Right now, because I just listened to people who yell at me on the street. So for ever, Gordon Ramsay was our white whale. white whale like you know every time we put up an episode

People were like where's the Gordon Ramsay episode nobody cared about anything that was going on So it's just an albatross going around my neck So finally crossed him off the list and then I thought the request would stop but now Keanu Reeves is like one of the most requested He said in recent aMA that he wouldn't do it But you know like these and then um who else like, like the rock still hasn't done it. That's like an often requested one. Yeah. So I guess you just try, I tried to work through white whales just so people stop yelling them at me and airports. Yeah. Would be like, you should get like a child

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Uh, I saw you wanted to have Howard Stern on. Yeah. Well, Howard Stern, David Letterman, Adam and Carl and Jimmy Kimmel were probably the formative, most influential broadcasters for me growing up. So if you did have our surround, would you like at the spiciest wing, we'd be like, are you a sellout? Well, he would never do the show. He would never in a million years do hot ones. Which sucks. And then when you say yeah, he would probably say like yeah, right?

Yeah, maybe. I think he'd probably try to explain away his sellout. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so tough. You used to do like a swap with him, be like, I'll go on your show and ride the Sibian. You go on ride with him. And take on the wings. Actually, that's a, that feels great. You know, fair currency exchange. Yeah. Yeah. What can you say who your worst

one was? Yeah, I'm, I think, you know, I wish I had, I wish I had, like just a good podcast anecdote for like the worst one. And it's usually a very positive experience, but the one, because I think with interviews, they're like movies, you know, if they're bad enough, they're awesome. Oh, definitely. Like the worst ones can be better than the best ones. Yep.

And I think a good example of that is we had DJ Khaled come in super early and then he tapped out on the third wing. Like completely rejected the format of the show, like before it even started. Like I doesn't do anything. Yeah. And, well, you know what, I remember a memory that I have of that

is like walking into the studio, and before we laid down the wings or anything, he was already eating pizza. And I remember being like, dude, we were about to eat these wings. He was like, I'll be fine, I'll be fine. You know, and then he was just eating like one of those New York $2 like massive greasy slices. So about to eat these wings. He's like, I'll be fine. I'll be fine. And then he was just eating one of those New York $2

or massive greasy slices. So maybe that was the problem all along. But that's like a good, so bad. It's good, kind of, hot ones episode. We've actually toyed with the idea, because it is tough, because you don't want to bash a guest, because then you're getting future guests, but we've toyed with the idea of running a worst of,

which would be like, no one does worst of. Well, it's like all of our bad interviews just in one like episode. That sounds good. But then you bring up the idea of like people would, you know, be like, why am I on the worst day right? Yeah, right, right. Although, a month, a couple of that would probably expect that. One would sue, and then the other like, damn, Reno doesn't have Twitter.

No. Yeah, so from your perspective, because you are an A.W.O. What's the worst thing about part of my take and what are worst moments? All right. Well, here's a criticism I have, but it's of all podcasts that are all sports podcasts that I understand it. But and you know listeners probably need it. But you know, it'll be like March and we're talking about the NFL for like the first

30 minutes of the show, you know, the football, you know, like I'm with seasons, you know what I mean? So sometimes I think we actually have I'm raised, I think we used to do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think so too. You're right. You're right. We had a moment. It was actually Mike Singletary, legendary bear. We interviewed him at Super Bowl, and we ran it in like March, and people are like, what? Why? And we're like, you know what? We got to do a better job because I actually think that like one thing I love about this show is that we do talk all sports.

Yeah, you're right. There are sometimes when football will dominate. But off season. Can I gas you? Can I say the things I like? Yeah. Can I say the things I like? Well, you two seem to genuinely like each other.

We do. You know what I mean? And I know that you genuinely like each other. And Kudos to you for making that work, especially in this day and age. Like, I can't imagine if I had a Syme's twin with me through this whole thing and making sure that relationship, whatever.

So I think there's that, but then it's also just the ensemble cast here. You know, you guys play a great role as well. Because then I can feel like when I'm listening to the show that I'm just with my friends sitting here Talking about sports, you know what I mean? You have like that side of it and then grit week is amazing the bets are amazing. Sorry max They don't seem to go your way, but you know, you're a good sacrificial lamp for the whole thing

It's from an AWL perspective. It's really interesting. He's a great loser. The great really one of the great That's what what Checo said that about Max for stopping right? Yeah, you're a great loser. The great really. It's like that's what what Checo said that about Max for stopping right? Yeah. You're a great loser, Max. Yeah. Thanks guys. You're the best. And you are a loser. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's actually like it's kind of analogous to the show. You win at losing. Yeah. Yeah. No. I and I'm and I got a lot of experience with it. So I'm I'm going to know what but and and your value is growing through it with it, so I'm really better. But and your value is growing through it. You know what I mean?

The further you slide, the more your value grows. Like you've inverted it somehow. Yeah, I have thought like in a bizzara world. I've told you this, yeah. The Phillies won the World Series, the Eagles won the Super Bowl, and the Sixers won the Finals. Oh, I think so.

I would be the most hated guy. Everybody. I had this conversation with Max because it is the weirdest thing at Barstool that you obviously are rooting for your teams, but when they lose, there's a weird silver lining of, well, people won't start just hating me because I'm winning. Right. I mean, it's almost like one of our biggest episodes ever was the double-dunk. And it was like, because people just wanted to see me as sad as possible. And like that, like, it is a very fucked up thing to like,

do the mental gymnastics. Like, you don't want to lose, but losing is not the worst. Yes. Again, that sounds like the biggest loser talk ever. But yeah, you, I mean, I do think our show, like, our relationship, me and PFT, and then everyone else, like, I, I mean, I do think our show, like our relationship, me and PFT, and then everyone else, I listen to other podcasts, and I don't know if there's any other podcast that has two hosts have been doing it for as long, because a lot of podcasts are solo,

or there's one like main host and then ensemble. But yeah, I think just us hanging out and liking each other does go a long way, because people wanna just hang out. Yeah, that's exactly the experience that I have. And I think another way that you can judge a show is like how good are the vibes on recurring guests? You know, I think that's another way

and the vibes are very high in the show. Love the blakes became a huge DK Metcalf fan because of the show, but then I think my pro, I think that was a piece of shit. And then I think my, the reason a shit. And then I think my the reason why I say that in D.K. knows this, he ducked us on the NFL draft. Oh, he specifically requested I take time out of my busy day

to do a Seahawks thing with him on draft day and then he just left New York as he was afraid of me. Yeah, he knows he's scared though. Yeah, he's a bitch. He probably won't even come back home show. Well, and then the, but the proudest I am of you guys is when I see you guys, no one where you came from and how you made this work,

seeing you interview like the old guard. You know, it's like the Chris Burman in the view to me. That's a proud, those are, that was big for me. Is it gonna help you well? Yeah, it's funny you mentioned like the Ensemble cast because I think Big Cat and I, I've described us before as like sometimes the stern father and the crunchy granola mom on the show

Yeah, and anytime things get stale in our relationship. We just have another kid So that's that's actually a good role that Max is filled any any latent aggression that we might have towards each other Get's immediately redirected on somebody new and if they take it, then that's really the most important, that's the character trait that they have. The secret to the show's success. Yeah, I mean, I do love just hearing from other people too, because like, I mean, PFT and I have talked for thousands of hours.

So sometimes it's like, yeah, let's have someone else's opinion, and then we can make fun of that person. Yeah, that's pretty much it. Billy's been talking a lot about how AI's, artificial intelligence is going to take our jobs one day. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I actually think that your show might be AI proof. Because AI can't eat, it can't feel spice, it can't feel pain. You know, in certain ways I do think I've Protected myself in the format of the show because it also makes it hard to just go out and get another host too.

True, you know what I mean? So I always feel I've insulated myself that way, but am I AI proof, right? Cause AI can't eat the wings. But I guess though, name, likeness, they can recreate my voice. Yeah, yeah. But then I'm wondering too though,

maybe we've like timed AI kind of perfectly You know what I mean like when it does get to that point and then we just License away our name and likeness and then just disappear to an island have the robot. Yeah, that's actually a great point Our job with like just set like steady royalty Checks come on my way the new pensions. So I actually, so I always think, hopefully, it's a I proof, but then the basement on it is it's like not badly timed. Yeah, that is true.

Yeah, we've had a good run. Yeah, yeah, we've had a good run. And then tomorrow we can look back on this. Yeah, that was what a ride, you know. You did have a quote in an article, I think you did, maybe as Vanny Fair, you've been written up a couple times, which are always interesting, but it bummed me out because it made me start thinking about this show. Uh-huh. When you said like, yeah, I'm probably, I've probably done more hot ones than I will do.

Right. Closer to the end than the beginning. And I don't like to think like that, but it's a hard thing to like stop and be like, wait, because you don't know when the end will. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If I could do this show forever, I would, but like, you never know. Right. So I mean, if he's gonna be in the FAT, you might run this after he dies. Oh my God. Probably, yeah.

In memory. All right, Pee want to say anything nice about me? That's not my bed. Yeah, it is, like, do you think about that often? Cause it's just kind of a bummer to think about, but also you saying that out loud, I like, I don't want to sound sappy, but it was kind of courageous. Cause it's like, I'm more of a, I don't want to sound sappy, but it was kind of courageous

because it's like I'm more of a, I'll just ignore it and be like nah, fuck, everything will stay the same forever. It's good. It does, it is a, existential kind of taxing because I love everything about what I do right now. I love the people that I work with.

I love the show. I look forward to Thursdays when the episodes go up and I just look forward to just watching it. It's just a show that I really like. And I'm like, king of my little castle and because we've been doing it with the same team since the beginning, it's kind of like a family affair. And then it feels good from an audience reception point

of view and been able to go 20 seasons and beyond that. So everything about it feels so good. And I don't look around at anybody and wish I had that. You know what I mean? I don't look at any, I wouldn't switch places with anyone in media entertainment, podcasting or whatever. And I mean that. There's got another show that I want.

I do the same one. Like whatever, like the thing that I have is exactly what I want. And then I don't have world takeover aspirations. You know, I'm not Kevin Hart. I'm not the rock. You know, like this is all good for me. I don't need world takeover aspirations. You know, I'm not Kevin Hart, I'm not the rock. You know, like, this is all good for me. I don't need to be King of the World. Like, I'm just, I like just my little plot of land.

You know what I mean? No, I mean, so I don't even aspire to be any bigger than it is. You know, so if I could hold on to this, I will for as long as I want, and then I've done enough TV, like, just enough TV to know that I don't want to do that. You know, like, it's just the exact perfect lane and I'd like to stay in it as long as I can

and I love doing the show. So I don't know exactly where I see the end of it. So revisiting that quote, I almost wanna step that back and be like, no, you still got a long way to go. But I mean, it has been now over eight years and 20 seasons. So I mean, I don't know how much but I Love it and I don't want it to stop. It's interesting. You say that because you know, we've talked All 80 bills know that we talked ad nauseam about the BVT thing and everything that's happened We always say like it was actually the best thing and one of the parts of it being the best thing is it did kind of put us

In perspective of like why are we trying to be on TV when we have this and it's awesome and people love it like We don't need to do world take off. We don't need to be these big TV stars Like this is more fun than being on TV because I do think at the beginning of the show It was such a rocket ship for us and we're're like, next step, next step, next step. And then when we got to that step, and it didn't work, it's like, wait, maybe we don't, maybe this is the step, we're at the top. And people like it, you know?

And then what else, why do this for any other reason than to put on a show for an audience that cares about what you do? So as long as you have that, that's the lightning in a bottle. And then once you lose that, you're just gonna try to capture that over and over again. And nothing says that you will. So while it's in its moment, just appreciate it, ride it,

and see if you can put some fuel behind it, because once that's over, it just might be like over. It's great perspective. And I think that people are skeptical of it, because they don't understand like saying, like, I don't wanna be on TV. But like that's how I feel. You know what I mean?

Like I think people just expect, you know, media people to always want to go to the next step. And it's like, no, I actually don't want to be on TV. And then we'll have to be in a movie after that. And then you have to have the bar. Yeah, then you have to like take some time away from Hollywood and write a play. And try to find yourself.

Got to make Broadway, right, right, right. Yeah, when people are like, oh yeah, you guys are you know Believe Barclays like do you realize that I've had a company card that no one's asked me a question about Like everyone in this room has my card on the Uber like no one asked me a question. I would never give that up It is it is very nice So Sean when you were when you were talking about kind of your mindset behind where you're at right now I don't think I've ever told you this big cat

but Sean and I went out to dinner. This is a couple of years ago. And I was in the middle of trying to figure out where my contract situation was going. Yeah, yeah, yeah, remember. And I had that same mindset that you had. And it's like you have to appreciate what you have. You're in the perfect location.

You don't have to go out, try to prove anything by doing something else we're on your own. And the fact that you verbalized that back to me, that made me feel like, okay, so it's not, I'm not just being afraid of going out. I actually like what I'm doing, and I want to stay here. So Sean, you say PMT.

Yeah, congrats. It wasn't a weird time because I was one of those times that you don't feel good. And I talked about it throughout the whole thing. And it was like, we had a very honest conversations where it was like, hey, we love working together, but we also understand like there's business sides to this that we can't control.

So it was always like, we're very upfront with each other, but it definitely was weird for both of us to be like, we wanna keep working together, but we also know it might not happen. Right. And money doesn't necessarily fill that hole that you said, which is like the connection with the audience that you have, the connection with the people that you work with. People should value that more than money.

So now I'm not saying like it's female behavior to chase a bag like Jason Whitlock said about Pat McIntyne. But I am saying that you have to know what you value. Right. And I think we have that same shared value, which is like, there's something meaningful in the connection that you have with the audience, with the people that you work with, that money will never replace.

Yeah, I mean, you have a hit show. How fucking crazy is that? You know what I mean? And that's what everyone wants and is chasing anyway. And then that'll take care of the other stuff. Your life gets a little bit better when you have a hit show. So whatever, it might not be the exact dollar amount that you want or whatever. but if you have an audience

that cares, then that should kind of be enough. Has there been a big thing that has been offered to you that you've been like, no thanks? Yeah, I say no to everything. You know what I mean? And I don't even really want to add more to my plate. You know, like there's that side of it where everybody wants to fully put your hand as many honey pots as you possibly can

and make this thing. But I'm like, I don't know. Like, there's 36 interviews a year that I like really care about outside of that, not much, you know, honestly. And then there's not a ton that I wanna add to my play, either, you know, I spend a lot of time in airports. It's a labor intensive show already,

or at least takes up a lot of time. So yeah, I don't know, like, then that's, it's just, everything's good for me. Like right now, I feel like I could take this and make it last for a while. Your agent must hate this. Kind of, kind of, kind of. I don't want to do anything. Shout out to Ben, shout out to Ben. Yeah, well, yeah, there's, right, right, right.

That actually can come from, shut up Sean. That can come from a couple different camps, you know what I mean? Like that can be inter, whatever, a lot of people be like, can you please just do this? And, you know, sometimes I do, but, but also at the same time, that also makes me low maintenance.

You know what I mean? Like it's like, you fix one corner of the car, but you mess up the other one, you know, sort of thing and right now, that's what I think is good that I'm just kinda low maintenance. Yeah, I have those moments where, that's what I think is good. Then I'm just kind of low maintenance. Yeah, I have those moments where I'm like, I'll just be like, I'm never leaving bars to. Why the fuck would I do that?

And wait, we gotta, we gotta, we gotta go to the top. We gotta go to the top. Yeah, I'm saying that. Like, can you please stop saying that? Yeah, I know, you're shrinking his leverage position, you know? There was a moment that we had last fall,

where Billy, I remember, tried the the was it the last dad hot sauce? Yes put that on the part of my cheese steak had a Billy style. Yep. Yep, and he absolutely flipped out like that's probably I'm gonna ruin my whole night How do you deal with the post the post you triggered? How how yeah? I've trained myself like a dog my favorite part of my week is the post-short. You should have been triggered. How? How, yeah. I've trained myself like a dog. My favorite part of my week is the post show, dude. Because no one can bother me. You know, like that's the time that I,

they know I'm not gonna email back. They know I'm not gonna text back. I go home or back to the hotel, put on basketball shorts, crank the AC. It's like Pavlovian, to me at this point. I've gotten to a point where it's my favorite part of the week. But are you talking about taking a shit or the stomach? No, just waking up all night,

all ruined sleep, have to go to work the next day. Oh, you're so dramatic. I know, there's no way. Half of a cheese thing. I know, there's no way you had that kind of a night on three bites of a cheese steak with some hot sauce. No, no, but the thing is when I did the hot wing challenge on grit week, every time I did the hot wing challenge on grit week

or every time I do like a hot wing challenge, like it's like it's a lot afterwards. Like actually, because you eat one wing, right? Right, yeah. I mean, well, I mean, there's 10 wings in the thing, but the way I look at it is like the first five, if you don't, if you don't have any sort of hot sauce experience like kick or whatever,

but I always think about it. For me to have this cartoon life, it's once a week eating three spicy bites, right? Yeah. But it's the other side of it is like, the more often you do it, I think the more your biology adjusts to it. So I can go from a shoot to equinox.

Like I can go from a shoot to the gym. You know, at this point in my life, it doesn't break my stride. So you gotta eat more hot stuff. So that's what we're saying. Get your weight up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what we're saying. That's what we're saying.

Yeah. Do you have a reminder that you set for yourself after you're done eating, like don't take a piss and use your hands? I mean, once you do that, any cross-pollination hot sauce mistake you can make I've made, and then those are pretty uncomfortable, so you just tend to not make those again, you know?

Yeah. But every once in a while, it can catch it. Even if you thoroughly wash your hands, you know, even if it was yesterday, you know, like every once in a while, it can still get you. When it gets on your nails. Yeah, yeah, there's no place to cool.

There's no place to cool. No, you know what? Never, I've never like thread the needle that way. It's never, like I've never independence day Yeah, into the p hole with hot sauce. Yeah, but I got time baby. I got time another 20 Commercial you're like I got a great way to think about it. Where it's like Randy quay just driving a ghost pepper up Yeah, I would just eat it. You were the mind went I would have a no hands on on shoot days if I were you I would just I would wear basketball shorts and then just pull them down go pants all the way on the

Yeah, and then pull them right back. Yeah, maybe I'll take that. Yeah, yeah Well Sean, it's been awesome. You're a current guest now. All right, say I'm in the club I have one last question. I'm sure PFT does well, but the rowback question RHO BACK.com use code take for 20% off your first purchase, QZIPs, Polo's hoodies, jogger shorts, rowback.com use code take 20% off. I want, it's a three part question. So it's some like hypotheticals that we all know, like this stuff doesn't,

it, the reality is not this. So you don't actually have to worry about it, it's more like what would happen? Thought exercise. So yeah, like what if the sun doesn't rise tomorrow? Right, right? Like what I mean nothing, right? I mean we We were all right. Yeah, that's first question. Oh, what if the sun doesn't rise tomorrow? Yeah. Like again, we know the sun's gonna rise tomorrow. So it's not a big deal. Talk about breakfast.

But I don't know, but the herd mentality of the sun not rising. I think is it butter like that is a tsunami kind of butterfly. Right. People freak out if the sun doesn't I think is it butter like that is a tsunami kind of butterfly right people freak out The sun doesn't rise tomorrow, but I wouldn't it'd be fine. I like I'd be chill with it. Okay. Yeah sleep in like what if hot ones never happened Then I would be Oh my gosh, I'd still be doing architecture tours of the Chicago River Okay, I'm not good at anything besides what I do. It doesn't matter, because hot ones happen. So you're good.

And like the last one I just softened up ahead, like what if Justin Field isn't the guy? All right, well, let's unpackage this. Because again, we know he's the guy. He is the guy. He is the guy. Well, you know, here's the thing, is being a Chicago sports fan,

you're always ready for a rebuild to blow up and take another Eight years to give you any kind of hope so I'm like fully Practiced and going through it right now with the white socks anyway, but here's my thing Justin Fields I don't even really understand bears fans that have Like the other side of the argument, you know, I'm like, what have you been watching your whole life? You know, like those jay color years we threw like 22 picks and six, or 22 touchdowns and 16 picks.

That's the best quarterback play that we've ever seen by far. Otherwise, you have like one Eric Kramer proble year. And like Jim Miller to us is like a good back. Very good. The jay color year, the best year he had, he broke his thumb because he was making a tackle after an interception just put that into person right so it's him playing that's what I've seen so I don't like prior to last year I don't know if I've ever seen the bears

with my eyes get a third and 12 you know what I mean like like one holding call destroys the whole so like now with Justin Fields flying around like I don't even understand bears fans who have that other side of that coin opinion. Okay, so I understand it in that I think what people are doing is they're trying to like get in front of it before they get hurt again. Okay. Do you know what I mean? It's like a cope.

It's like a cope like, oh, he won't turn out because they don't want to believe in something. Right. I want to believe in something. I do too. I'm like, the Bears. I'm dying to hear something. What the Bears did last year, even though they only won three games, I don't want to believe in something. I do too. I'm like the bears. I'm dying in the air than something. What the bears did last year, even though they only won three games, I don't remember, like maybe,

maybe obviously it's the lovey team that went to Super Bowl and that defense, maybe the 2018 team, because it felt like that defense was on that level. But like waking up on Sunday and being like, I'm excited to watch the Bears play.

Football. Is not a normal feeling. It is not a year in and year out feel at all. But I do think there are people, and I probably, I've done it every now and then, where I'll just be like walking, and I'll be like, wait, what if he's not the guy? Fuck.

And like this, this, this like wave of like, pessimism and dread comes, watches over me. And I also, week one is going to be the most important non-playoff game in Chicago bear system. And a while in a while because it is the Jordan love like if the Packers beat the bears then they have all season to be like, haha you idiot bears right? Right. So yeah, I think I'm gonna go to that game actually. Okay, we should go.

We should go. Is it we can't go on Sundays because we have to work. You should do though. Week five. Commanders bears. Yeah, I was a night. Yeah, we can go to work. But we should do though. Week five, commanders bears. Yeah, I wanna go to that. Yeah, we can go to that. Yeah, yeah, let's do that. I wanna go to that. Yeah, I wanna go to that. But, so he's the guy.

He's the guy, but it would be very bears. It would be bearzy, and if he's not. I don't, I think this one would hurt the most. It would, this one, you start would hurt the most. And two, because I'm getting too old, you know? Like I'm starting to get there where I'm like, oh, so they're not gonna be good until I'm getting too old, you know, like I'm starting to get there where I'm like So they're not gonna be good until I'm in my 40 You know like that I have no hope until then, you know, I can't go that would suck it would it would hurt

I'm practice it would hurt the most though too because it feels like there's just such a blank slate with the team the roster of free agents All that shit all my teams got to start playing better. It just like what your eyes are fast to sell I don't know how you do it as a white sauce. Ambals. I know he is the worst. He is the worst. And he doesn't get enough credit for being the worst. You know, if I give him the benefit of the doubt, it's he's a very loyal guy. Or he's loyal to his guys.

You know, too much. I know. Not a good, not a good quality for a professional sports owner. As I think that we've seen play out. In fact, I was complaining to my dad the other day because I was like, you know, not a good quality for a professional sports owner, as I think that we've seen play out. In fact, I was complaining to my dad the other day because I was like, you know what's crazy? Take 2005 out of it.

The White Sox have not won a playoff series in my entire life. That's too, that's crazy to think about. And then, if you ask me, I'd be like, oh, the White Sox have been that bad, they won a world series. Yeah. Yeah.

In 2005, take that out. They haven't won a playoff series in my entire life. And I was complaining to my dad about this, not to undersell 2005 is amazing. One of the greatest summers of my life. Shout out to all the legends. But I was complaining about this in my dad. I'm 37 years old. They want a playoff series in one year of my entire life. And he goes, oh, cry me a river. Same for me. And I'm 68'm 68. You know what I mean? Like, what if you really look at the history of like how sort of oscillating between like mid and being ass cheeks they are?

It is like, yeah. It's statistically, it defies everything. So it's the same as like the bears. It's definitely, they are both franchises that owe their fans so much better than they've delivered on a recent history But the fans are amazing. It's a great sports town and I'm too deep in I've committed too much So I just have to stand by my man and ride it out. Yeah

I mean it's a big if but if Michael Jordan doesn't exist like Gerrins are is the worst right? All-time right right like he you know that like he really like Michael Jordan you win six titles like There's nothing really else besides that that he can show for. Right. And he even draft them. Right. So, does he pretend to be poor?

He does. He, I don't know, I like, I like those. No, he does. I like, I respect the billionaires that are like, I just don't have any money. I'm sorry, what do you want for him? He, he did a, I don't know if you heard it, but he was like, he was like, do it. Crypto conference or something. And he was

bemoaning how he's like, you know, all these teams are selling for billions of dollars. I don't believe it. Like the revenue doesn't show. It's like, dude, shut the fuck up. Right. Right. Right. Just take your billions and go. Yeah, I don't even, I don't even understand the motivation of like owning something like that except if you buy in where he bought in, I don't know, I was like 20 million in now, what's that worth? 25 million in now, what's that worth?

But otherwise, if you get in the game now, what's the point other than to win and leave some kind of legacy or something? If you're one of these old owners though, you have also seen obviously the value of the team has grown so much in the years, but also just numbers wise, your expenses that you write out, those have also gone up due to inflation,

also the market just getting massive for professional sports. I think a lot of old owners have the mindset of just they hate to spend money. So all they see is like, oh, spending all this money now, it ain't just spending. And all that has exploded, so I can kind of understand the sticker shock,

but if you're not built for that game, then get the fuck out of it. Well, it's also like the difference between an owner who is rich and then buys a team Versa owner who bought a team and they got money Because of the team right right right so like that the same with the bears like they just all the all the Macaske's money is that team Right, so it I think it distorts you and fuck man Justin feels has to be the guy. Yeah, I mean that would take care of a lot of this Yeah, very least he's so much fun to watch yeah, yeah, he's actually in his highlight real is I love it

He's the guy. He is the guy We're working together I am gonna just I have like a file of people I want to dunk on if he ends up like I'm sure you are. I'm sure you do. Yeah, yeah, you've been keeping receipts. And I've said this before, but like I now

like anyone who calls any quarterback or like people who criticize Lamar Jackson, like I will take up that fight and like fight for Lamar and Jalen Hertz like anyone's like, oh, he does his run. Lam up that fight and like fight for Lamar and Jalen Hurts like anyone's like oh he does his run shut the fuck up these guys are really good fucking pastors, dude fucking assholes. Well Sean, there's been awesome. Yeah, thanks so much for having me. Yeah. We got to have you back on recurring. That's a dream. That would be a dream. Yeah, recurring against the year when you come when you come for the Bears Packers game. Oh, yeah, maybe just watch it with us in the gambling cave All right, I'll do it. I'll be just as good

I can watch it. You can watch it live in person. Are you guys gonna be in Chicago by the way? Oh, yeah Yeah, I'll be there up. Yeah next week summer in Chicago. Yeah, all right. It's beautiful Give me a set of tip about Chicago Take the architecture tour. I'll go on there with you Maybe if I still remember my game, but it's really good, but don't go to like, don't go to any tour. You got to go to the Chicago Architecture Foundation one, all right? Because that's going to be like a former like architecture professor or something like that. Chicago's first lady. That's the one to do. Don't worry, I'll get you sorted. Okay. Which is the one that had a bunch of shit dumped on it by Dave Matthews

band. Was it that one? Anybody know the idea? I'll take my chance. What's your favorite wings? Is it buffed Joe's? You know, here's the deal. I can never, once this show is done, I can never look at another chicken wing again in my life. That's fair.

But I guess like the cancer of Chicago one and they are good, like the Toons wings. You know, Toons kind of classic. First nest is my favorite. Birds nest is another one that I kind of recommend because I get that question like when people in Chicago like I have like an encyclopedic knowledge of wings or something, but those are the ones.

And then we gotta get you wing nuts and buffalo. What's your deep dish place? Pequats. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So you're kind of, you're kind of like old school, you know? Yeah, I love the, I love Pequats, yeah. There you go. Also, fuck, what's it called? You know what's really good about the bird's nest wings? Every, I love the I love P quads. Yeah, I also

Fuck what's it called? You know it's really good about the bird's nest wings every time I've had them I saw it and there's just steam coming off the wings Yeah, I mean that does kind of sound nice. Maybe that could get me back into wings. All right. Well Sean Evans Thank you guys Mount Rushmore is brought to you by the Barstool Sports book. I got my Barstool Sportsbook account open right here. I'm putting some bets in. I bet on the US open. I had Ricky Fowler. I had Max.

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Barstle Sports Book. Okay, Mount Rushmore time. Today we're doing Mount Rushmore of guys not to fuck with. Good one. This is a good one. This is spicy one. What, what, hey? Problematic. Why? is a good one is spicy one what what problematic why is what why would it be problematic I don't what's problematic about guys not to fuck with I think it's a problematic if you make it it's not gender inclusive oh girls not to fuck with you guys know guys is that's not where Billy was thinking Billy had some answers that were problematic he had no idea what you guys talking about. No, guys is neutral. Yeah, guys not to fuck with. Yeah, give me girls not to fuck with after.

We'll do a lot of fuck with later. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like that. So that'll be a future Mount Rushmore. Beautiful. Girl with a smashed, absolutely smashed iPhone. Yeah, fuck her. Girl, we got to see a girl with a smashed iPhone though. I'm like, yeah.

Girl, yeah, woman with a minute minivan. Yeah girl girls at brunch Just girls a brunch. Oh, yeah, we'll be whole thing. Just girls. No, don't fuck with women All right, we have first pick so it's gonna go PFT in myself Billion Jake then Hank and Max our First pick I'll let PFT say itFT said he, this is the easiest one. This was his, I think we all thought this when the topic got sent out. Guy with cauliflower here. Done.

Yeah. Is he called flower? You turn around. It's, it's a absolute red blinking sign says do not fuck with this guy. Cause you know he's been in some shit. That dude in the Oklahoma bathroom would have done well to take note of that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

It's, yeah, it's the universal. Just do not fuck with this person. Okay, Billy and Jake. Are you good with the two, two? Sure. Yeah. God. Okay, good pick.

God is a guy. God is a guy. Well, yes. Doesn't matter if he, like, don't take the chance. Okay. Wait, which guy are we talking Old Testament or New Testament? Oh, we're talking Muslim anyone. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Big man. Yeah, whoever it is. Whatever you want. Just don't fuck with them. I think it's a pick pick a specific God. No, no, no. Because what if someone else wants to do a different God? No, the whole pantheon.

Muhammad. That's multiple guys. Yeah, no, we're taking all of them. Okay. That is multiple guys. All right, we're going to go with a guy holding a gun. Oh, that's good. That's pretty, pretty apparent. Smart. So if a guy's holding that, if they have a gun on them, or you don't, if they're holding

it, don't fuck with them. Okay. Like if a police officer was holding a gun in his hand, you're not going to go up and pants them. Gun guy. Yeah, well, yeah, I would hope you don't. Yeah, that's what fucking with is, right? Would you fuck with the police officer? Like not holding it?

I would go like, Nanananananan. I would fuck with English police. English police without guns, yeah. I think if it didn't the holster, it's a little bit different, but if they're holding, they're holding in their hand, it's like.

What if the guy with the gun was about to shoot Max? Would you not fuck with him and try to take him out? Well, you could say that about any single one of these. Would you not do the same with someone with cauliflower here? Definitely not. I'd let you die, yeah. But gun now. Nah, yeah, gun, I'd take him out.

Uh, okay, good pick. Then we're gonna go with a crazy homeless guy. Oh Okay, yeah, don't fuck with them. Don't fuck with them. Don't engage if they're you know It's you just don't fuck with them. You don't go near them You don't try and talk to them. You never know what they're gonna do storage come at all the time They'll bite you. They'll know who knows who knows what will happen. Don't fuck with the crazy homeless guys, easy. Yeah, okay. I like to give homeless people money, but yeah, that's fine.

That's just the kindness of my heart. There's difference between homeless and homeless people. That is being generous, that's not fucking with them. Would you, would you go up to them and then give them a dollar bill and then pull it away from them? No, but like, that Michael Viro on TikTok, think about like, you're saying,

you're, you're, you're, you're, like you keep bringing up these references as if, no, I know, the context is fucking with them. Crazy, crazy homeless guys, different than homeless guy asking. Yeah, but it's also like, I'm homeless people. Like in the, I fuck with them where. Yeah. Buy them a meal.

But it's guys not to fuck with. It's not guys to fuck with. It's guys not to fuck with. Billy's right, you're forgetting the crazy part and everything. And you're forgetting the not to fuck with. It's not guys to fuck with. It's guys not to fuck with. Billy's right, you're forgetting the crazy part and everything. And you're forgetting the not to fuck with part of the entire Mount Rushmore, which is someone important. Okay.

All right. No one says it's fine. No, we're having to bait. It's cause the podcast. If we list off all of our picks, just like list them all off. That would be so boring. It'd be electric.

This is a whole point of Mount Rushmore season have a discussion around it. Okay the from the guys that brought you God What do we got Devil all right, we're gonna go with Bill Bellacek after you fumble. Oh, okay good pick getting the doghouse That is good pick careers over. Um, I think PFT we should go with our two here. I like to easy this one I'm shocked it got all the way back to us. What do you think I'm gonna say? I know I'm not gonna say it because but I know You know max doesn't know you do not know he doesn't you're right, okay? The IT guy don't fuck with him do not fuck with him. What was that?

The IT guy guy who does the computers in your office? That's the last person you want to fuck with him. Do not fuck with him. What was that, sorry. The IT guy. Guy who does the computers in your office. That's the last person you want to fuck with. You know, is every bit of information about you. He can watch you as you surf the net. He can get your financial information if you want to do. You don't want to be on the wrong side of the IT. He can plan evidence.

Yeah. Yeah. Good pick. Okay. That's a great pick by us. Yes. So for a third big cat. I like, I like nine. I like 10. Yeah, I think 10 is pretty solid. Nine or 10 either way. You go.

Surprise me. Keep it interesting between us. A guy wearing black Air Force one. Oh, good. Good. Black Air Force ones. Again. I literally just texted Max. Yeah. Well, thank you for complimenting our pick. Yes No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I do. Go ahead, Billy and Jake. Just the warning, Billy's not going to make any answer, I think. So I think he's going rogue here. Okay, let's go. Billy, Billy, rogue time. Billy, how are you going to be tough when you have to do this?

Go off, Billy. And you're not even like, you're going to have to come to Chicago to do this. Yeah, I know. I'm going to miss my flight. Yeah. Okay. Are you going to take the entire city of Chicago. Oh, no kidding.

Chicago's overrated crime wise. Yeah. Uh, there actually was a funny TikTok of it was MLB teams, standings if you did it based on murder rate. And the Cubs, I think we're fourth in the NL Central and everyone on Twitter was like, how is this possible? This is bullshit. Midwesterners just have such a low tolerance for crime.

I don't think that's what it is. That's exactly what it is. No, I don't think that's what it is. We don't have to get into a deep, I think it's a deep, people just don't realize how many people live in Chicago. Yeah, it's used as a point. So we're gonna go with Albanians.

Okay, all right, good day. Do not fuck with Albanian. They're like, you're saying, don't fuck with ****. No, not Jeff, we have to beat you that out. No, all right, good. Do not fuck with Albanians. They, they're like, you're saying don't fuck with ****. No, not you have to bleach that out. No, Albanian, like, they took over the Hitman jobs for the mafia. Okay, now we're getting very racist.

Yeah, what? Don't fuck with the whole country. People, don't fuck with the whole country. Don't fuck with the whole country. Don't even tell you that. Yeah, they're not all Hitman. Sometimes they just raise the price of cancer drugs. Don't fuck with Albanians. Okay.

Screly's Albanian. Oh, big time Albanian. Yeah. Yeah. You just doesn't give up those vibes. Huge album. All right, we're gonna go with guys who have the higher ground. Mm-hmm. Okay. Good answer. Good answer. That is good. Sports stadium. Yeah. Anakin Skywalker. That's in the out of war, zoo. Yeah, Sun zoo. Yeah, agreed.

And then I'm running point. I'm gonna kick at the max in the corner. Let's go max tax in the corner Like a child. That's where he's like PJ Tucker. He's wet from the corner. Are we did you see my last tax? I did I you're just letting me run with it. You got the ball. All right, Cali teens. Oh, those are guys? Yeah.

Those are teenagers. Correct. This is what you were saying. What's guys? Those are teenagers. Yeah. Are we doing teenagers not fuck with kids not fuck with? No, you're gonna get the ball.

What, they're just not, they're just not guys. You're gonna get the teenagers. What is this, what is this? You're on the guy. You're not, you're, you know's not guys What is this the You're you know 18 this was this was that's not true at all Yeah, this was a this was a weird panda pick because it was like just basically designed to keep the pick away for a big cat I'm looking at it. I don't know how to think that we're gonna take you should just pick what you think not what someone else No, he's trying to get big cat votes to make people think that you picked that. Yeah, a little rent free

It's kind of bullshit. No, that I mean Why why max yeah, why? Because they're scary they're way cooler than you Okay, okay, I think that Cali teens have actually gotten less intimidating since we've started doing this podcast. No. Yeah. No, now they'll, now they'll like tick talk in your face. They can get.

They can get legal. That's true. You can do that pretty much anywhere. Drey pickbacks. But before they. Okay. All right. Billy took his, I'm going to take mine here.

The Undertaker. Mm. It's not real. Jake. What do you mean? Okay, all right Billy took his I'm gonna take mine here the undertaker Not real Jake what do you mean? Well, it is real but if you if he rolls his eyes back and does the slash thing That's the scariest thing of all time it is real, but yeah, okay, it's never happened Billy is so mad at you Realized this is great so mad. This is real. I would be great to see Like genuinely upset So mad this is real life would be great to see the whole set. I haven't. Billy is so cool. Like genuinely upset. Mm-hmm. Very upset. Check the undertaker's on a real person.

Okay, PFT. I think this is our draft to win if we just go with the right pick here. Okay, so I like, I like, uh, I'd love our pick. Six, I like, I think we, I like seven. I think we go six. You want to go six? Yeah. And I like, I think we like seven. I think we go six. You want to go six?

Yeah. And I like, I like six and seven. So if you like six, we'll do six. Yeah, I think that's a good round out. Okay. We're going to go with anyone named Kyle. Don't fuck with them. Kyle's, Kyle's are fucking crazy.

That's the last pick. Yeah, that's the last pick. Bill, you can try to do this, but you're not good at this. Dude, no, no. Anyone named Kyle? Yeah. Kyle's are last pick. Yeah, that's the last pick. You can try to do this, but you're not good at this No, anyone named Kyle. Yeah, Kyle's are fucking Kyle's low T lives his mom basement. That's wrong Kyle had no fucking monster energy and done jumps off random shit Hand no dude Kyle Kyle doesn't leave his house because he's like no leave his house because he's like, no, Kyle, he's his house. All the time, he's in other people's

basement. No, no, no. Kyle, you're describing a guy who has nothing to lose. Monster Kyle, like, you're describing a guy who has nothing to lose. You can't get up in the morning because he's lazy. Kyle, that's how he gets the baseline. Kyle, a guy who listed his mom has nothing to lose.

Zero to lose. I have a friend named Kyle who's the easiest guy to fuck with. Kyle, is that guy that kisses you with. Do you call him like that? Is the guy that kisses you? No, it's not, oh, no. That's another one. Oh, okay. It's a different Kyle.

It's a different guy. Kyle's got the sickest sound system in his car. Mm-hmm. The ringo. The rango. The rango's white torango. They're fucking, your parents tell you not to hang out with Kyle's.

You don't want it because you get you in trouble. Imagine they don't fuck with the beat up. Imagine that your daughter comes home You don't want it because you get you in trouble. Imagine this. Imagine this your daughter comes home from school. Dad, I finally get asked to prom. Oh, who's taking you? It's Kyle. Oh my God. No, no, no.

Because Kyle can't defend her in case of a problem. I feel like I don't like you. You guys can't even come here. Kyle, that's like scary. Yeah. Kyle's are scared. You don't call it a house. Yeah.

Boom. Done. You're scared of him. Yeah, Kyle's are scared. I mean, you don't call it a great house. Yeah, boom done. Did you scare him? Bower? Call flower here. Yeah, you just said a guy carrying a gun. We took, we took a guy with a gun who likes to carry guns. Okay, fair care on the point. Okay, honorable Matt Chris Kyle.

I literally had a whole list of badass Frances Umghan who Brock Lesnar, Kimbo Slice. Why would you put your glasses Francis, um, gone who Brock Lesnar Kimbo slice Why do you put those? Who's that Brock Brock Lesnar Brock Lesnar. Yeah, and and Jake chose the undertaker Well, I mean you could pick right like specific guys. Yeah, I mean the undertaker if you're choosing between Diaz is probably the like he actually just showed the guy out. I like it is good people that actually thought that was Logan Paul to this day. Yeah, which is insane rather

Honorable mentions I had dad with multiple kids under five. I just know that if you see a dad with multiple Fuck don't fuck with them. That was the one we should have taken. I should have kicked the ball to max Anyone anyone that has personal security. So like, because those security guards don't give a fuck. That's true. Like if you go up to that person whoever it is, that security guard will kill you and they don't care. If it's like a team thing or they're at a sporting event,

like maybe they're just like punching the clock, doing their job, but if they're like a personal security guard, they'll fuck you up. That was good. We had one that was kind of similar to IT guy, but anyone involved with anonymous. Chechens. Don't fuck with them.

You just, what, we saw all the, all the countries. No, they're bad asses, dude. It's not, it's like they're bad asses. Neck tattoos, face tattoos. Neck tattoos. There's a lot of people who get those tattoos to look tough, but aren't actually tough. We just had Wutanklan, not in a fuck with.

Mm-hmm. They got before coffee. Yeah, me before coffee. Steve Smith's senior was our only guy, like singular guy, like that. Any others that were missed? I had the car lever it. Okay, okay I'd why he like beat the fuck out of a catcher in the minor leagues

Right okay Are you thinking of Milton Bradley thought a car lover it? Bradley was a bad dude I Thought it was car lover. There's a video of a minor leaker like turning around and just smashing at the catcher in the Oh, that's you know, that's not a lover it. No, no Sorry, sorry Carl over it along the same lines of the smersher name rough net oh door. Yeah No Ryan no one Ryan don't fucking no one Ryan. Yeah

What am I the arch Duke France Ferdinand mm-hmm lots of stuff happens, but that's more Cats Yeah, don't fuck good pick. All right. Yes, our Carl. I just looked it up player kicks catcher. Is he all contra? All Contera is he all Contera. So how are you thinking of? All Contera. Is he all Contera? Is that how you think enough? Yeah, I guess. I don't know why I thought that was Carl.

I'm gonna find what I was thinking of. The car lover, great guy. The distant cousin of the Black Air Force once, anybody that's wearing tims that are older than three years. Yes. Oh, guy with no shoelaces. That's you a lot. Yeah, that's you.

That's you trying to be the top guy. No, no, that was, but like guy with actually no shoelaces. That's you a lot. Yeah, that's you that's you trying to be the top guy. No, no, that was But like guy with actually no shoe laces. Yeah, we should definitely do because there's a there's somebody that's related to that guy That big cat was talking about and I was like no, that is a guy that you fuck with We should do a list of guys that you absolutely do fuck with. Yeah, we should do that as a list We'll do that as Mount Rushmore as well put down the list Jake. Yeah Okay, good Mount Rushmore. Everyone go vote. All right, good show boys. Great interview with Sean Evans. Numbers.

Sees nine. Six. That was, that was I mean, that's a try. Bill, your brains moving at the pace of a diamond back towards no no I How did you think I started to wrap up the show and you moved away to like plug in this machine? I to do my job and make sure that we can do this this But how did you not like that was easy? I've given up on 69 okay great. I'm all about 21 also shout out the guy

What's his name David David E? David E incredible created pardon my balls calm Which has like all all the stats From all the numbers. We're gonna do some fun stuff. I talked to him. I reached out to him Jeff D. Low get your own fucking guy Jeff D Low swooped in fast. Did you see that? Way. I saw the tweet. Dude, Jeff D. Low, get your own fucking guy. This is our guy. This is our nerd. Jeff D. Low treated man. This rules would not awesome website. I wish I could do this shit. We'll revive movie rankings on that and then

make one for the dozen trivia. It was like we basically like found a hot girl at the bar and like I'm gonna go take a piss and we came back and Jeff D. Lo's like like got her in a corner like like you know like two inches from her face and like oh yeah it was my friend bothering you. So that's our guide you have to low but pardon my balls.com. Check it out. Like, he was saying that he can set it up that people will be able to maybe submit their guesses with like a time. So like we can actually check it.

And like people can start like actually keeping track of how they do. So it's not just, oh, I got it. Like they can actually do it on a app or something. So we will figure that out for the new lottery ball. All right, so. So this dude rocks. He's the man has created such a,

like visually entertaining product here. I was looking at Hank's, his pre chart for his guesses that he has. Hank guessed, I think 96 different numbers on his quest to get one ball correctly. Remember when you said that you had like a system that you were sticking to and it was just basically guess every number? Well, this just goes to show, you know,

my organizational skills. Because at one point, I said, I'm gonna go one through a hundred and every day, go one then two then three then four. I miss 60, 74, 92 and 97. But I was pretty close. He almost got all of them. He almost gets every single number.

It's incredible. Like just looking at, I could look at Hank's. I'd make a poster out of Hank's and just having 17 72 times. Well, I saw what I saw. I was like, oh, it's gonna be funny. All my scores are gonna be lit up because I in my head picked every number that was like, you're a fucking idiot. You couldn't even do that.

Pika, I have a question because I don't know if we discussed this yet. I wasn't online that much on Friday. We're doing stuff down here for Premier Rugby 7s in Austin. I don't know who won Mount Rushmore, the first one one the first bowl. Oh, do you happen to know? Yes, PFT police over to check the pole. I'm not we squeaked one out. It was actually He also retweeted it will need so you are gonna retweet wait, Jake. That's just cheating We did he have to read it. Yeah, I unretweeted it. Jake you are

They should just that that should be no I unre tweeted it Jake you're you're a title tale When it came out I saw it and for some time I hit retweet that I un-retweeted it lock him up Oh, so it wasn't at the end. Oh It was not a thing here It was not no it was the second it came out. It's literally the two hosts of a podcast first two producers and two you know third mics and you guys still have to go through these lengths to win Why why does that even make a difference? I retweeted it at right when it came out at the very

Dark is why we make it a rule. I don't know. I don't know why he made a rule But then I remember that it was rules. So I unretweeted it We'll take a self-imposed one point penalty So we have one point you guys Thank you. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no take a one point penalty so we have one point one zero and and and max have one point Jake and Billy have zero points. I guess if you guys did that you get to qualify. What? I appreciate myself. Yes. What did you say? Hank? No, I just feel like if I

feel like if the you know, the situation's reversed that there'd be a DQ but that's fine. One point a nice a nice self-imposed, you know, he retweeted it for, for how long, PFT? I, I don't know how long it was up there. That's a fact. Actually, we said we wouldn't retweet. It was every time. The instant that, that I remembered that I was not supposed to retweet, I unretweeted

it. Put him in the box. How long was it retweeted for Jake? It was like 10 minutes. Hank, you don't have to. I mean, that's an eternity. That is an eternity. That's a long time. I like Hank. What would you like us to do you like to do I expulsion I think that's he's shut up shut up

Pft you got it better than that. I know I do okay. Tell you what I will thank god You brought it up pft on your own to good. Yeah, why the fuck I fucking didn't know that This big of a deal I under you up Jacob, thank you. That was very cool. Jake is a bitch. I'm gonna fucking hell. I'm gonna fucking hell. He is the law. He's the law.

He's a law. But we lost by it. He is the law. I'm gonna stab you. No, no, law and order. You know, someone's gotta keep it. There was anonymous though. Our names weren't even on it.

It's stealing turtles. It would be one thing if our names were on it then be then I'd retweet it and then it would say PFT As one of the names and then that would tell everybody what to vote for our names weren't even on it cry to the rules committee Not not not the who's on the rules committee hack shut up Hank. You guys that's who I'm crying to right now Do you just piss because you suck at golf? Criminal. No. No, no. We sucked at golf.

It was a team. I played well. I played well. You guys playing together, I was just saying in general, he sucks at golf. I have to be sure. Can I hit this thing? I gotta get out there more.

I gotta track myself. I play number. How about that? What if I do that? I'll live track myself. No. I'm trying. 26 would be my number.

Wait, man. 21. 1, 10, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6 my number. Wait, my number is 21. 1, 10, 60. No, no, no, did Hank and them say? Yeah, yeah. I thought they were there. Hank, what'd you say? 60. 10.

10's never gotten it. Is that true? Yeah, people are telling me that now. So thanks. OK, about to hit it. Is everyone good? Yeah. All right, I'm hitting it. 1 about to hit it. Is everyone good? Yeah, I'm hitting it one two three 56 oh, I feel like that's been hit a lot

56 oh, yeah like that's been hit a lot 56 oh yeah that just hit uh three shows ago 56 yeah that's 56 the most we did it with back comba during the Mac comba I just picked it. Orcas are actually dolphins. Killer whale gulphins. I'm gonna love up here Don't want me Hey, me Oh, I love you Oh, I don't want me I need less to say I'm sitting It's about me, so I'm a little weak So I'm gonna learn it like this

I'll pay, say I'm free It's about better to be safe than sorry free It's better to be safe than sorry It's better to be safe than sorry It's better to be safe than sorry Don't run me Hey I am here to go To be more free

Things that you say Just the way that I love you All the time to remember You shine like Love can be you anyway It can be you anyway Love can be you anyway Take on me

Take me on I'll be gone, you're dead you