Pardon My Take - Howie Long, College Football Is Back, Trey Lance Traded + Mt Rushmore Of Fictional Animals

Episode Date: August 28, 2023

College Football is back and Jason Garrett is a buzzkill. 49ers trade Trey Lance in what may be the biggest bust in Draft history(00:00:00-00:20:41). Who's back of the week including Trump's golf game and Messi being the GOAT(00:20:41-00:43:23). Howie Long joins the show to talk about his incredible path to the NFL, his 30 years at FOX, the Raiders, 2023 Football season and tons more(00:43:23-01:51:27). We finish the show with Mt Rushmore of Fictional Animals(01:51:27-02:22:01)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, part of my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen, add free on Amazon music. On today's part of my take, we have an awesome, awesome interview with Howie Long, the legend, Hall of Famer, Hall of Fame football player, Hall of Fame broadcaster, Hall of Fame movie star, Hall of Fame dad, Hall of Fame man, Hall of Fame, broadcaster, Hall of Fame, movie star, Hall of Fame, dad, Hall of Fame, all of us. Hall of Fame, man. Hall of Fame, man.

Awesome, awesome interview. Told us some incredible stories. We are going to do the Mount Rushmore of fictional animals. This is the last week of Mount Rushmore. It's coming down to it. It's going to be intense. We're going to talk some football

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Boy. Now in the tree, there is violence. And I'm not allowed to stop. We're often done. No place to hang out. No washing. And then I can't play all on your stuff. It's parted my take. There's an about our support. Wasn't it pardoned my today is Monday, August 28th. Hank, say it. Say it. Summer's over. No football's back. Real football. We watch real football. And guess what? There's no better way to kill your football buzz than having

Jason Garrett called the game. Yeah, it's true. He doesn't have that saying. He doesn't have the energy that you need. You need somebody that you need Michael Irvin calling the first game of every season. Yeah, not Jason Garrett who would put himself to sleep. It really felt like week zero in Dublin. Yeah, it was like all jacked up ready to go college footballs back I know it was week zero. I know there's only like seven games. They all they all mean something to me And then Jason Garrett was on there and I immediately fell in a nap in the second quarter I'd rather hear Al Gore commentate a football game the Jason Garrett is back. It is back It is back. Markman looks great. Did you see how green the grass was in Ireland? It looks so that's all I wanted to see

Check that off the list. It was not much of a game. It was yeah, it was it was watching Notre Dame Hawaii being being pesky Covering the spread and then in fitting fashion USC and the the returning high-spin kale Williams who probably the number one pick in the draft and no one in America could watch it Because it was pack 12 network. Yep. I was watching it on a stream on my phone that was giving me all the viruses. That could not have been the better way to tip off the last Pac-12 season opener to be like, hey, this is why we're dying. Yeah, because we can't watch fucking Caleb Williams play football. Well, you remember when Oklahoma played against Army a few years ago?

And that was awesome. That was awesome. You couldn't find it. You had to go like deep into the dark web. Some guy like streamed it. The first figure. Yeah, it was a guy streaming it and then the chat that was popping off to the side. I love those chats Yes, but yeah footballs back it's a fish. Good back It is it's good to have games that mean something besides obviously the commanders Ravens game Which was most important preseason game of all time? I'm looking forward to this weekend though Yeah, we won can I can I run through some of the games we have? You tell me how excited you are on the ball scale. Okay. For the following games

coming up. Virginia at Tennessee. Yeah, sure. That's a fucking whomping. Yeah, maybe like two balls. That's a two balls. Two balls. Ohio State at Indiana. That's a two and a half balls. That's a whomping. That's going to be a whomping. We've got West Virginia at Penn State. Yeah, that's a two and a half balls. That's a whopping. That's going to be a whopping. We've got West Virginia at Penn State. Yeah, that's a that's a four and a half balls. Four. Yeah, it's going to be good. Now the five balls. Yeah, I know you Florida state. That's a five balls. Six balls even. What about you, tall Florida? Utah Florida. That's a five ball. That's a five ball. Rammer. You mass Auburn. You mass. You mass one outright. Sure. It looks fucking good. Am I doing it again? You know what I'm really looking forward to? Friday night, Saturday morning, whenever they put out the graphic of how to watch every

game, what channel it's going to be on. Yeah. It's like there, it's the college football equivalent of when golf posts, where the hole is going to be. That's right, great. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, he does a great job with that. I'm, I'm just excited for meaningful football.

Yeah, it's great. In college football, I like how they set it up. The college football gets, I wish week week zero like everyone should play week zero They should just move the season forward or back. I guess it would be a whole week where it should just week zero Should be all the games because it's nice to have college football get the spotlight for a couple weekends What that be a week one then then you'd have week negative one. No, no, it'd be week zero But all everyone plays that be week one? No, then then you'd have week negative one. No, no, it'd be week zero, but all everyone plays and then week one. What do you understand? Why does only seven games played on week zero? Why can't everyone plan? But I think what Hank's wondering is like, what do you do with the week zero games then?

You moved those a week earlier too. No, you could just have an over one plan week zero. But then you move all the other games. Two games week negative one. Yeah, yeah, that's fine. What if you just do all the cupcakes on week zero So every team's still playing and you still get a lot of games. I just want all the games right now That's really what that's what I'm looking for. That's what I want. We also have the battle of Miami Playing Gabbard's brother who plays for my house and we're the real Miami. They're playing Miami I like that is talk your shit. Talk your shit. Yeah, I like it too. They intentionally did that.

They were like, it'd be fun if Miami played against Miami. I mean, first time. I'm getting together with the giants in the offices. I'm a barbecue. Yeah, first time you'll hear this. I think Miami's gonna win. Oh, God. I like Miami Jake.

Thanks. I'm taking Miami. RIP Bob Barker, because I really want to do a bump, bump, boom, boom, boom. Oh, my 100% lock. I will cut off a testicle if Miami doesn't win that game. There you go. There you go.

By the way, RIP Bob Barker, the goat. Yeah, I'm sad. I thought I thought I was just never gonna die, because it felt like he trended like three times a year and I was just ready for him to die and I was like oh wait, he survived Then he actually did die and he is in my mind the goat game show host Yeah, I know Trabac it was great. It was the goat game show right and he was the host for so long It was the perfect host for it. Just like the perfect amount of kind of horny

You know made sure that everyone got their pet spayed and neutered, would get a little pissed off when people were dumb. He just was the best. He was the best. He was all class. You felt like he was built in like a Hollywood, like in 1950s Hollywood lab, just everything about him.

He was perfect. I love Bob Bob. Did you know that he was born on an Indian reservation? He was a member of the Sioux tribe? Yes, I didn't know that until after he passed Yes, and this was a death that Most people were probably prepared for because the second that had happened well. He got the vaccine Yeah, that's probably why so did the the head of Wagner who died mysteriously in Russia in an airplane He was vaxed. He was vaxed look into it. I've seen that movie

Why did that man? How did Bob Barker? First scene of the pain one. What? Yeah. Oh, yeah, that is the first. How did Bob Barker die? Did I say? I think yeah, just old. Oh, just of being Bob Barker lived as close to 100 without going over. I like that one a lot. Yeah, that was that. It's great because there was one guy who was very smart and actually tweeted that. And then I just saw that tweet 7,000 times by other people.

That would be so deflating. Like when you're 99 and a half, all you gotta do is, you just gotta live to be 100. Yeah, he was just awesome. I would tell people don't publicize my death until it's, I want people to think I died at my hundredth birthday. Yeah. But yeah, RIP Bob Barker, one of the goats.

Yeah, he really was one of the goats. The other big news from this weekend, besides college football, being back in Bob Barker, passing away, was Tray Lance getting traded. Mm-hmm, yeah. He's cowboy. Tray Lance, I don't know, I think it's, it's weird because I think John Lynch is such a good GM.

That's why he doesn't get criticized because find another team that trades three first round picks and misses that badly on a quarterback and still is potentially a Super Bowl team. Like he's built such a great team that he could do that, but that has to be one of the worst bus slash trades in NFL history. I absolutely loved RG3 wing and being like, and now it's official. Trail lands by giving up three first round picks to trade up and take this quarter back. It's the worst draft bus of all time. It's so funny hearing that from RG3. Because the trade is almost exactly the same as what the Redskins gave up with the Rams to move up

and take RG3. Obviously, injuries is a little bit different. Although I guess Tray Lans has been injured too. But yeah, you have to have a strong take about John Lynch and Cal Shanahan. I think they should be fired, Big Cat. I think they should be fired. And then I think that they should be picked up

by the Washington commanders. That's what I think. I guess it's a combo of John Lynch being so good at other parts of his job, drafting other players, and maybe a little bit of Zach Wilson going before him. Yeah, takes a little bit of a sting off. But it is such a bad trade. And then the guys that the dolphins used for those picks, Jalen Waddle, as do they drafted, they used one of them to trade for Tyree Kill and used one of them to trade for those picks. Jalenwaddle is who they drafted. They used one of them to trade for Tyree Kill

and used one of them to trade for Bradley Chop. Pretty good. Yeah, it's a good haul for Train Lance. Got a good haul for that. But yeah, if you look at how they managed to carry on with Brock Pertie, they also drafted Brock Pertie. Now he was Mr. Relevant, so it was like every team including the Niners passed on Brock Pertie lot.

They should have drafted Brock Pertil number three. They should have. It's actually, in a weird way, it's a credit to Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch overall that they were able to miss on this and they can get a quarterback that's not as highly touted who fits in their system. Yeah. So, I am very much looking forward to, though, the first terrible interception that Press got throws.

Yes. I will be clamoring. I'll be standing on the table for trade lane. Which will be exactly two weeks from right now as we're sitting here. I can't wait. The first DAC interception of the season is going to get so different. Just show trade lants on the sideline. Well, it did bring in trade lanes. Oh, yeah.

The camera's going to be right on a map. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. One more thing about, I forgot, College football, the new rule about first downs sucks. The fact that they keep the running clock sucks. Yeah. It sucks. It's stupid. It sucks. They small sample size, very small sample size.

But the average amount of plays per game last year were 68.7. Obviously, that's a very large sample size, three hours and 27 minutes. Yesterday, they played, it was 63 plays a game. So about five plays less and they shaved three hours and 27 minutes. Yesterday they played it was 63 plays a game. So about five plays less and they shaved three minutes off the game. Well, they just added more commercials. They fucking, it sucks. They're ruining college football. Well, also it was a Navy game. They run the ball quite a bit. Yeah, but they didn't, I mean, they didn't have the ball that much. They fucking suck. Yeah, they, they was bad. It was an ugly game. It was a football. It was still football.

Yeah. And, and what I like about the college football rules being different from the NFL is you can watch it with casuals and then point out to them. Actually the clock stops on a first down till they get out. I hope they just change it back. Did they change it for the end of the game? No, they changed it because games were going too long. Oh, no, no, no, no, it does stop. Yeah, at the end of the game, which is a rule stop. The NFL should adopt. Yes, make games more exciting at the end., no, no, it does stop. Yeah, at the end of the game, which is a rule stop. The NFL should adopt. Yes. Make games more exciting at the end. But yeah, they made it so that the games wouldn't last as long. They shaved three minutes. Again, small sample size, but they just jam more

commercials in there. Yeah, it's tough. Also, I think it was on Friday, the news broke that Steven Strasberg retired. Oh, you might be forgiven for not knowing that he wasn't retired. I just wanted to bring up Some stats about his contract. These are fun facts about his most recent contract. This is post world series When you retired so they probably should have Protected a more injury was so that we can go back now. We can officially litigate the Strasbourg shutdown Which showed like nine months of content on ESPN should they shut them down? I say yes I think it was the right decision to shut them down. I agree. They won a World Series. But here's some fun facts about

the contract that he got post-World Series, right? So post-World Series, he was paid $460,000 per pitch. Whoa. He was paid $2.6 million per out. Whoa. 7.8 million per inning pitched. And he was paid $30 six million dollars per start. Whoa. Probably probably the worst contract in baseball history. Oh man. That is. Shout out. Scott Boris. Yeah. Shout out. Shrassford for getting that money. Yeah. No, no fault of his own. He can do whatever he wants. But you should get staggering to think of four hundred sixty thousand dollars per pitch. They should really factor in those type of contracts when electing Hall of Famers.

Like he's a Hall of Famer in my mind. Hall of Famer, be one. He won a world series. He was like, he did have moments of just pure like brilliance and then he cashed into an astronomical level. Why shouldn't he be in the Hall of Fam? He played it well. Yeah.

It's the American dream. Yeah. Chase Daniel should be in the Hall of Fam. Yeah. Why not? The guy did it well. Yeah, it's the American dream. Yeah, Chase Daniel should be in the hall of fame. Yeah, why not? The guy did it all, making money mostly is what matters. Yeah, the only one who's done better is Victor Hovland, who made $21.6 million in the last seven days. All well playing for Manchester City, too.

Yeah, pretty impressive. He had a nice goal today. So $18 million, it was a hell of a win. It looked like it. He had a nice goal today. So $18 million. There's a it was a hell of a win. It looked like it was about to choke it away on what was like the 16th hole. Yeah. Back to three strokes. They put them way shout out Max came and tied for seventh. Yep. We'd like everybody else. I think everybody's time. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. Great job, Max. Top 10. Yeah. Victor Hovelin. He's, uh, if you're, if we're just basing golf off the last two weekends,

Victor Hoveland is Tiger Woods 2001. I don't know why he said, yeah, rider comes. I don't know why though. He was like, yeah, I'm going to go enjoy it. I'm going to go back home, hang with my friends and stuff. It's like, dude, if you're playing that well, go find a game to play in. Yeah, I just, I just start taking people's money, um, find a tournament. There's got to be a tournament. Go in to go in a member guest.

Yeah, play wherever you can. Is he on the road to Dubai? Uh, probably. Probably. I think all roads lead to Dubai. They do. Yeah, so for a total. Yeah.

Um, all right. What else? We had preseason week three. I don't know. I'm just ready for the season. Yeah, who cares? I really like a week three is now the new week four or the old week four. Yeah, although I was watching. I was season. Yeah, who cares? I really like, well week three is now the new week four, or the old week four. Yeah, although I was watching.

Yeah, I was watching the Bears game and they pulled Justin Fields like in the red zone, it was just made no sense, but yeah, there were some starters playing sparingly, but I'm just ready for the season. Yeah, what do we think about Rodgers? Oh, he looks, he's gonna be incredible. Yeah, it means you catch the Jets game.

It's a great game. Yeah, that's it catch the Jets game. It's a great game. Yeah. That's it, that's all you got. You watched the whole game? No, I watched the first two drives, and then it was college football. That's all you needed. Well, you just wanna watch, make sure it doesn't get hurt.

And then, Sala was saying that the reason why I wanted to play was you wanted him to have some experience in MetLife. Oh! Like get used to the stadium. On the new turf. On the new turf. On the new non-injury turf. Yeah, experience not logo. Not ripping up grass and tossing it in theLife. Oh, like get used to the stadium on the new church on the new church on the new non-injury church. Yeah, experience not logo not ripping up grass and tossing it in the air. Yeah, the home logo. Yeah, we also won USA one

Little League World Series that rocked. Yeah, fuck yeah. Fuck yeah. Let's do a curse. Eat our dick. Yeah, well, no, because you're 12. Um, curse out. Good game. Yeah. Yeah, not really. No, it was all time announcer jinx who was doing it Steve Levy call rabbit call rabbit. She was like curse how hasn't given up a home run all little league world series Next-pitch walkoff home run. Yeah, oh The little league world series is good to watch like the funny clips of when Or when a player steps up to bat and it says a fun fact about them underneath Yeah, there was one that I saw it last and it said this guy, his favorite sport is baseball.

Oh! I thought that was really interesting. I saw one that was the kid was favorite emoji the eyebrow race. Oh, yeah. Not the double eyes. No, he's just doing some suspect things. There was one that said, I had a crush on his teacher, Mrs. Smith, submissive Smith. That was a real one. Yeah, that was a real one. That was a very real one. It's real every year that I see it. Yeah.

All right, what else in the sports? I mean, this is like our last, I feel like this is the last weekend of summer. Yeah, Hank, would you like to say anything about, you're noticeably very sunburned. Oh yeah, you know, I was trying to get in the last few days of summer, but it's over. I had my last, oh, you're admitting it. You're admitting defeat. So you've done playing golf for this entire one

We won the war Last summer I put my last temperature dropped it felt so nice I've put my last weekend rounds of golf or at least till October what does that mean but you work during the week, don't you you're all business now That's what I'm saying definitely no week off and. And weekend, go again. Oh, it's good enough. I'm taking off till, give it a September. Wait, you know what, this week? No more work.

Well, that's work. Oh, okay, all right. Yeah, okay. But you are playing this week for work. And what's October? Is that the pro-amer? No, I mean, no. Yeah, that, you know, by that point, hopefully,

we're in a good enough spot where I, you know, I can take the little bit of time on a Saturday and go play. So you're going to put you pedal to the metal for the next four-ish weeks no next two days yeah all fall yeah okay well I mean it is this this does feel like this was the last weekend where I was like oh I don't have anything like pressing that I have to be you know I had all the games on but it was it didn't feel like it's gonna feel next weekend. It was pretty And yeah, right so it's it's Listen even for the NBC people they had Joe Montana the interview them. They said five-time Super Bowl winner So Steve Young somewhere just punching air. Like what the fuck is this about god damn it?

Yeah, I don't know what anything else. I mean cut day Cutting guys I have one for whose back, but okay, all right guys. I have one for a who's back, but I don't know. Okay, all right, all right, so let's save for who's back. We'll go to who's back. Kirk Cousins looks great. Yeah, he does. Have you seen the mustache? He's got the mustache.

It's part Johnny Cakes, part the dude from, was it office space? It was like, you know what I do? Two chicks at once. Yeah, it sucks so much that we can't hate him anymore. He's just a nice guy I don't know if that if that mustache plays with Kirk though. I think that's not a nice guy mustache Well, I what it is. I'm either gonna kill you or blow you mustache. It's a week three

It's a priest preseason week three mustache like he's not gonna go into the season It's for fun. Yeah, that was a that was a fun dress-up thing It was probably like if you if you're watching if that was on hard knocks It was like the boys he lost a bet in the quarterback room He probably got like too high of a score on the immaculate grid that he does every day after practice Yeah, like you got to do the Fumantoo Kurt. Yeah, so that that he's definitely shaving that right? It would be shocking if he came out there wearing that I would actually think differently about the Vikings as an Organization if you if he played with that all year better or worse I think better yeah, I think better

I think they'd have an edge to them to 40 to one okay, they're 40 to one. I'm in on them All right, let's do who's back the week is brought to you by our friends at game time the exclusive ticketing partner bar Still sports created by fans for fans game time is a ticketing app that makes it easier than ever to score last minute deals on tickets to sports concerts and shows and the guarantee the lowest price. It's possible with the game time app, the biggest last minute price drops when we found on the seats you thought you could never buy. The purchase process takes just two taps and 10 seconds and once you buy your tickets, the delivery directly to your phone. No printer needed. The app also allows you to easily share tickets with friends via text so you can get into the game seamlessly. Skip the

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Yeah. Yeah. But he's back at the craziest pass I've ever seen. Got it back scored a goal. Little give and go. This is the technical term. I might be a converted soccer guy, because of Messi. I am a target audience. Every time the clips come up, I'm like, how is he this good? More like, how is the MLS this bad? Yeah, but I love that they're just trotting.

Like, I love how you can do that. You know who no one's talking about? Ronaldo. We're playing in Saudi Arabia. You know what? Nobody cares. His cash and checks and that's it. No one cares, not messy.

He's here for the love of the game. Messy is dominating and loves the game. And the pink jerseys are awesome when you're winning. Yes. It was very sad when Miami was just getting the shit kicked out of him. This is not Miami, Vohile. This is inter Miami. But they were getting the shit kicked out of him

for a long time in the pink jerseys. And it's sad. It means inside. Inside. It's one of those stupid MLS things where football club. Yeah, where they they try to Sporting. Yes, sporting Casey. Yeah, DC United. You know, it was just one team. Shut the fuck up, Hank. No, I just Good one, Hank. It's dumb. They just they got. Oh, Rayl Salt Lake is my favorite one. Oh, yeah. What the fuck?

Come on. They're just trying to sound cosmopolitan, but yeah, Miami when they're winning those pictures are sick How sick would it be if the MLS just named every single team after a breed of dog? That'd be great. That would be awesome shout out our water dogs by the way incredible comeback three seed three seed three seed I like that. No one's no one no one's no one's talking about the one What no not even us it's just crickets? Yeah Okay, that's your who's back messy. Yeah, and walkoffs and walkoffs way walkoffs Yeah, that was sick on run peek at that kid's life almost definitely well Well, I say when he has kids no actually I completely agree

You have kids no way this is the second. this is the best moment my life after the walkoff But until then I don't know what you could do no, there's nothing there's nothing you do for the first time I'm sure he's dude you think you think you see you kidding me. I Don't know that that is he will never he has peaked he's peaked what what hang? No, I just 12 year olds. I'm not not gonna go 12 years can see booze I'm sure like the even the high school girls there and they're in that kids great Anyone any girl any girl that's within a 10 year radius of that kid is like oh my high school seniors like that 12 year old that just hit So home runs. Oh my god. Yeah, and he just like, I want to hang with my boys. Yeah.

I don't even know what this means yet. It's the last year of innocence. 12 years old. Yeah. Okay. Pifty. My who's back in the week is Donald Trump. Yes.

As a golfer. Yes. He's a golfer. He's 6'3, 2'15, built out of basically iron. Pre-reported. Pre-reported. Well, we don't know, I believe it. I actually, I looked it up.

I looked up other athletes that are 6'3 and 2'15. So Trump is the same size as Lamar Jackson, Derek Carr, Jamal Murray, Kenny Pickett, Kevin White, your guy, Lou Dort, your other guy, and John Wal, these are all the same body type as Donald Trump. I just like being able to pre-report. I would like to pre-report my weight at all times now.

Yeah, I'm pre-reporting that I'm also 6'3." Yeah, and I'm also 6'3'2'15. As a golfer, Trump had a better weekend than Victor Havland is. So I'm going to read this. This is from, is it truth? This is a truth. So you can't lie. It's true. It's a fact.

I am pleased to report for those that care that I just won the senior club championship must be over 50 years old at Bedminster, Trump National Golf Club, shooting around of 67. Shout out to 67. Now, some people will think that sounds low, but there is no hanky lanky. No hanky lanky, guys. I know we were about to accuse them of hanky lanky, but there was none. And that would be hanky if he lost a little weight. Yeah, it would be hanky lanky, but there was none. And that would be hank if he lost a little weight. Yeah, it'd be hanky lanky. Yeah.

As soon as you get into all business mode, hanky lanky. We need hank, yeah, we need you on the basketball court. Hanky lanky out there. Stretch three. There's no hanky. A lot of food out here, we get fat, it's a problem. I walked on the golf course today. You did?

Yeah. Really, you didn't take a cart? Wow. It's burned something off. Yeah. That's tough. So is six pack coming soon? Yeah. Really didn't take a card? Wow. It's burned something off. Yeah. That's tough. So is six pack coming soon? Yeah, in the winter.

Oh, okay. Mm-hmm, cool. Many people watch Plus I'm Surrounded by Secret Service Agents. Not much you can do even if you wanted to, and I don't. For some reason, I am just a good golfer slash athlete. I have won many club championships, and it is always a great honor. I love it.

So, you shot a 67. Did you see he followed up too? Because people were like, this is fake. He followed up with another true social was like, here's the head groundskeeper at this club. Call him if you have any questions. He just put the guy's phone number on the internet.

Really? Yeah. You want to call? Yeah, I got to try to find it. Because I think that it was a I think he's lying about the 67 I actually do. I think there's more like a 65 But he's being very humble how mad do you think the guy that came or do you think the people that play in that tournament just know? Yeah, if you enter a golf tournament against that's like a probably really really nice club course Yeah, if you if you're paying there probably pay a lot of money. If you're playing against Trump or Kim Jong-un, you're gonna get your ask it. They they should do the match. Donald Trump versus Kim Jong-un. What did

you have like 11 hole in one? Yeah, he would he would say 18 hole. He shot an 18? No, I think I think it was like 12 holes in one. That's get sick. Yeah, Jake you'll probably put that on your Super car. He did a j-bull the Jake. Yeah, Kim John J. Listen. No Hanky Lanky with my stuff. Yeah 11 holes in one. Yeah, 38 on the world is 38 under. Yeah, that's pretty good I mean tell me that you wouldn't tune in to watch that match. Oh, that would be okay Here is you want to call it? Yeah, it's called it's here ready nine seven three six nine nine six one five six Mickey six one five that's a great name Mickey Gallagher. Okay, he's the head golf I'm a sure call. Please leave your name number and a brief message and I promise you I will get back you as soon as possible

Thank you. I'm a great day The mailbox is pulling I will get back you as soon as possible. Thank you. Have a great day. The mailbox is pulling. Oh, too many people. It's going to be so bad. Like I remember when Billy put my phone number out there and how mad I was for like three days. Yeah, this is at least worse. It's bad. Donald Trump tweets out your phone number.

Oh, man. Fucked. Yeah. But yeah, shocker Rick Riley says that it wasn't actually six and a rate says it was more like an 86 great journalism Rick way to get to the bottom of this one. Come on Rick. He said the caddies through his ball 80 yards down the fairways and took it out of bunkers partners swatted all his puts away once on the green members are pissed. That's it's on you if you're

mad at Donald Trump for beating you and golf He's the best golfer in the United States rules if you have your caddies throwing the ball down the fairway for you Yeah, like I'm cool with that. That's fucking awesome Okay, my who's back is her medwards being a fraud Because Arizona state has a bull band her medwards was that Arizona state He went Arizona state Self-imposed a bull self-imposed a bull band. What's different between that and what they've been doing unintentionally

every all season. That's true. That's a good point. Uh, but yeah, he was that Arizona state got fired. I think is he back on ESPN? He's probably doing some probably back on ESPN, probably talking about like character and the young man and like He is back on last season so yeah, so he's he's on his pn giving speeches about you know Upstanding character and doing the right thing and he just left this mess in his past So he's a total fraud. I mean that's what her med would just best at though. Just talking about young men Yeah, how important is to develop young men still Still the best is when he got that, he got the jersey and he couldn't believe how small it was.

Yeah. He's like, what the fuck is this? Yeah, it turns out didn't work out and he's left a nice little fire behind for them to deal with. Yeah, it is a brilliant strategy by Arizona State being like, hey, I know there's a lot of expectations on this year, we will not be playing in a bowl game. Don't buy those tickets yet.

The 20 seniors were very upset. Yeah. Like, fuck, we really thought expectations on this year. We will not be playing in a bowl game. Don't buy those tickets yet. The 20 seniors were very upset. Yeah, like fuck. We really thought this was the year. Yeah. There's no States been decent at times. They've had, they've had a couple flatties. They had that big win against Oregon Justin Herbert. Remember that one?

Prokaz, while there no name, no to name. Oh, that was when we went coaches. Yeah. Went to the weirdest bar ever. It was, it was, uh, we went to a bar in Tempe for the Notre Dame Arizona State game and it was like a legit club that just like for the whole the whole game was just music blasting with the biggest game They'd played in like a decade and then every time they scored a touchdown. It would just be CO2 can and CO2 can everything

It was so Arizona perfect. Yeah, it was awesome. I mean it I Can't really make fun of Arizona state because their college experience is better than pretty much everyone's college experience Oh, besides maybe Arizona. I wish that I got to Arizona. Yeah, I stayed out with some kids that were there and we went out They were burning couches Do you think rock unintentionally went to Arizona that had a pool I woke up walked outside the balcony I think this is the greatest college of all time. Yeah, I feel like there's a good chance that Rob grunkowski meant to go to Arizona state He might have any accidentally went to Arizona. He might gosh shit. I gotta have to buy a book. Yeah for one of my classes Yeah, I mean both schools just fake life incredible. Yeah, incredible place to go to college. Okay Jake

My who's back is bees oh no or no orils Rocky's had a bead delay Oh, I love a good delay. Yeah, it's the best. There's one every year Dude, it's actually this this crush the over on when the B delay usually is because I feel like it's usually early June We get a B delay. Yeah, and I'm pretty sure the Orioles put East to didn't you get hurt and he tears you see L.A. or something. I said you see L.A. again. Did that two times on Friday towards UCLA. Yeah, I keep saying you see L.A. I just start the letters and I can't stop. Yeah, it's just it's trained just goes off to straddle. It's brain. UCLA. He tours UCLA. You see L.A. I'm not seeing. Okay's a season that's very bad I feel bad for

Orioles fans and myself yeah that sucks but yeah B2L that rules yeah man can't believe it's gonna be about playoff baseball like a month oh yeah your cubs are looking pretty good dude the c the Cubs are beyond frisky. I need them to get in. Well, they've been playing some bad teams. Well, but they did their work. They did their work. They play who you play.

Yup. Yeah, five weeks left and Dinger's only. And PFT is most likely. What's the bottom? Just give us the bottom. Don't say most. Take him. Give him the bottom three.

I'm like the athletics. I've got that E eliminated from contention next. Billi 96, Hank 95, PFT three. I'm like the athletics. I've got that e eliminate from contention next Billy 96 Hank 95 PFT 58 on four. I'm four one six. Yeah, I've been on a hot streak I then max I got that fucking P file off max's guy Ty France got hit five times this week So he's now winning the league by 42 points. Damn it's fingers only first roll Fuck max I miss max.. Miss that big Oaf. Do you think he's listening? No. Yeah.

You think so? Yeah. Say something nice about Max if he's listening. I miss him. That actually is very nice. I do miss him. I miss his presence. He grows a great beard.

He does. That he desperately needs to have it all times. Yes. He's holding on for dear life. He wears a great high bun because he has long hair, he never wears down. Yeah, his hair is actually best on the podcast. His hair is the best on the podcast.

He's a great carpool partner. We carpool to this office. Is he? Yeah. Actually, no, I've carpooled with Max before. We've got good talks. What does he play? What kind of music does he play?

Oh, Uber carpool. Oh, you guys getting the same Uber on the way around. Actually, I'm gonna take it back as a carpool with him like in maybe December and he talked me into a future I'm doing over that they didn't even make the tournament. So I'm taking that back. I've got, carpooling with Max is literally cost me money. It's like, oh dude, once we get this guy back

and this guy back, oh, it's gonna be incredible. So, yeah, I miss Max. All right, should we get to our interview? Let's do it. How we long? Incredible interview? Oh, I have a question for Hank. Explain it.

Hank explains it all. What happened to Drake's album? Oh, yeah. For all the dogs, right? Also, Hank, you know you're doing a PowerPoint soon? What is that? There's the, me, Max and Hank, you have a portion. About what?

I have to explain the new NFL rules. We assigned it to you when you were going to. We have football math and I think Max has to do. I'll do the course. I guess Max won't be here. So if one of you guys wants to go to Oregon, double up. What's Max's? Same face.

Memes to do that. Memes, you got to do that now. Same face, different place. All right, so memes will do that. And then I'm going to put my quiz for you from football math. I'm going to explain new rules. OK, yes.

So be ready. You don't have to do anything. You just got put my foot in. I'll write a quiz for you from the ballman. I'll write a quiz for you from the ballman. I'll write a quiz for you from the ballman. I'll write a quiz for you from the ballman. I'll write a quiz for you from the ballman. I'll write a quiz for you from the ballman. I'll write a quiz for you from the ballman. I'll write a quiz for you from the ballman. I'll write a quiz for you from the ballman.

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That's what I thought too. Since when did they start doing tours that just never end? Is this Tom Sigerr? Did you do this? Well, no, it's just nice. You don't actually have to be on tour anymore. You can just fly into a town. Taylor Swift's got, then she extended it, yeah. She extended it, yeah.

By like three years, yeah. That's crazy. She's a terrorist. Let's knuts. Yeah. Fuck. All right, so Drake, when is it coming? When the Torrance, I don't know when that is.

Drop the album, coward. Yeah. Well, it says, it says, it's a summer album. Summer's almost over. Summer is over. Summer is over. Hank admitted. Summer's over. If I'm just basing it off the cover art, I think it's going to be banger. Yeah, I hope it's a wrap up. It's a pretty good one. Summer, when summer ends knowing how happy I am? I get very sad, but I said this other day, the difference between summer ending when

you are a child versus a adult, like when you're a child and summer's over, it would hit him in the depressing. Yes, the back to school commercials, instant triggering thoughts. And just knowing you have nine months of hell before you can have summer again, at least in the fall, it's like I'd rather be in summer, but the fall is fun too. Maybe the most depressing moment of every summer. Just the reality of it is when your mom would take you to old Navy, just be like, you've got to get a couple new fits. Let me get a long sleeve with a line across it. And then

another long sleeve with a line across it and then another long sleeve the line across it I'm ready to go and then if you're a parent there's no bigger difference at all because you're so excited about back to school The parents fucking love back to school. Yeah, they couldn't wait to get rid of your stinking ass. Yes, they were so happy You got a school you left their house and they're like thank God that piece of shit's no longer here You're ready to read buddy. They were so happy to not to deal with your bullshit. Yes. Yeah, having to have an arena entire book the last three days before school starts.

Oh, yeah. Oh, shit. I forgot about the book. Summer reading. Summer reading. Oh, man, that's a spark. Dude, I know Jake. Oh, wow.

So you're admitting to what else do you cheat at? I'm not cheating. It's you think it reason why it is. Did you read the book or just spark notes? Oh, Jake probably did both. No, the pen's cheated. Oh, it's not cheating. Now that I'm like living it all over with my kids,

I just like school sucks. If fucking sucks, school sucks. You have to get up so early to go to school. And it just all you have to do is sit there and just fucking school. And it's just, all you have to do is sit there and just fucking learn shit and they call on you and you have to go to work. God did, what they called on you. You didn't do the homework.

Yeah, no, I was an active. I was active in class. I just, you know, I just like to mess around with my friends. Yeah, active in what way? Like I was always good, like some people were shy or like didn't want to talk. Like I was always down to do the reading. I would just throw my hands up for answers.

Like if they were, you know, what do you think about this? And I would just throw something out there just to participate, even if it was wrong. I remember a whole more not good test, not good. Oh, test, test, test anxiety. Dude, doing like projects, science, pro, oh, me and it. But I was an actor. I remember that bullshit that they made you learn math?

Maths useless. Dude math science useless. Yeah. I never trained. Oh dude I was so bad at math I never even, I've never been in the same room as calculus. No. Neither I came close.

I took college for two twice. I got a I got a worst grade the second time that I took it to the first time. You know just kept bumping myself down to lower math class. I took college run college that's what I knew it wasn myself down to lower math. I took out your run college. That's what I knew it wasn't for me. I took one day of calculus walked out. And then you're going to be an algebra.

And I was like, I take an algebra three times. You made it farther than me. I literally have never been in the same room as Calculus. We've never met. I never want to be in a wide break out country. Why would you ever need calculus? For anything. No, the best part was they would give you the the graph

Incalculated the T.I. 82 Yeah, and then you just spend your entire time playing drug wars on it. Yeah, and the what's the asteroid game that that one rock to yeah Yeah, that calculator was so fucking yeah, it was a tank Couple hundred bucks. Yeah, yeah, okay Good good talking Drake. Yeah, well, I mean there's probably like a 16 year old day to be all right now who's listening to partying like fuck yeah for my life it's not just you school sucks for the one sucks and also you know what the job could go to school probably to the soccer and probably just

it's probably goes to school always probably super smart the smartest kid at the he probably teaches the calculus class yeah they teach let me handle this uh... yeah no this is uh is it's good. We're keeping the young AWO's humble. There's a lot of talk about us getting old. Guess what? I'd rather be me than you right now, bitches. I didn't really do it again by my education, but I feel like going back to college is the best. What do you mean? Being the old, not being the old person college. That guy was

weird. No, but like the random old lady who's getting your life to college in your four years of college. Oh, yes, yes, yes. 100%. No, this week. Oh, that was a welcome week where you just like drink for an entire week, it fucked up.

The only bad part about going back to college is when you maybe you schedule yourself for an early-ish morning class on a Friday. Never. And the first week you're like, well, this was a mistake. I need to, I need to change up my entire degree platform that I have right now so I don't have to, so I can still get drunk on a Thursday night. My first semester I had Friday classes, not a single semester after that.

I take a single Friday class. I would literally like Tuesdays and Thursdays. I would go to like, I'd work like a legit like eight to seven job. I'd just go to all my classes and then just be done. There was one year that I tried to set it up where I had every single class. And I mean, literally every class, only Tuesdays and Thursdays. Yeah. So I have a four day weekend. And I tried to do it my very first Tuesday in school.

I had to sprint around campus. Yeah. And it was physically impossible for me to make all those classes. So at the end of the day, I probably had like 25,000 steps, just getting around campus, and I just couldn't do it. I'll just fuck, I give up, I'll do Monday Wednesday class. See, the problem is that you should have just

knocked onto the class. That's what I started doing. I loaded up Tuesday and Thursday, and then just stopped going to half of them. Yeah, and read the book. For that one weekend though, having a four day weekend was pretty awesome. That's a little tip for all the college students going back to college right now

Your professors are lazy pieces of shit that have tenure So either go to the class or read the book don't do both. Mm-hmm. That's it Like all the answers will be either if you go to the class and listen and take notes You're good and if you don't just read every book they assigned and then you're good You can probably take a shit little zoom classes too. Oh,, yeah, just like turn your computer on, go away. That's true. Yeah, you definitely do that. Yeah.

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Delivered Straight To Your Door, which is their Instacart. Okay, here he is, Howie Long. Oh! Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very special guest. It is,

something we've wanted to have on for a very long time. We're completing the long family trilogy. It is how we long. All the famer, Super Bowl champ, father of three great great men and two of them who have become our very good friends in Chris and Kyle. Let's start with this. I mean, thank you for coming on. We really like we I remember when we first started hanging out with Kyle and Chris It was probably like a decade ago. We're like, hey, when were you gonna get how he on when we're gonna get how he on and now you're here and we couldn't be more excited I think they were frightened for me Kyle was Kyle just they both love you guys and I

To be honest, I'm not a podcast watcher Diane does play their podcast that she's walking around the house doing whatever she does around the house and You know, yeah, Priyanka is go. Oh my god. They say that. Oh, you can't do that You know, I'm more buttoned up. I think, you know, my generation being now 63. So, uh, I'm a little bit different, but they were excited that I was coming on and uh, they love you guys. You know, they both had different approaches. Chris was, I know, Chris threatened you guys and Kyle said, have fun. And that's a different screen, Chris and Kyle. Chris and Kyle are two different, two totally different guys.

Same how, same love, same rules, just came out different. Yeah, you probably, you don't know this. And I think a lot of our listeners might not even know this, but I think you actually have been on this show before. I think when we interview Chris, there was one point where you like walked in the room and we screamed a question at you. And I think you might have said something and walked out. You're doing a drive by. You're counting a

drive by. Yeah. Chris has done a lot of stuff over the years as you can imagine. So, you know, I know they they talk about your show a lot. Yeah. And I listened to a little bit earlier today. You were talking, I think it was yesterday of the day before what Darryl Johnson. Oh, OK. Yeah, that one's, I was going to say, it's very hit or miss when you listen to an episode

where it's like, you could get a really good interview. Oh, for sure. And then you could get us talking about something completely different that You might have been like what the hell are these guys talking about? Yeah, and listen, I've been I've been added for 43 years now including you know The Raiders and and this is the 33th year of talk So and then you want to talk about what we can talk about we talked about Oakland Los Angeles Las Vegas we can talk about about what we can talk about. We talk about Oakland, Los Angeles, Las Vegas.

We can talk about the boys. We can talk about Bill O'Neilva, which is a good plug for them. Yeah, I got an easy one to start out with. Who do you love more, Chris or Kyle? Yeah. I told them at the wedding, because how we just got married up here in Montana,

and I said, look, guys, you know, I pulled both them aside. I said, look because how he just got married up there a month and I said, look, I pull both the society. I said, look, how he's getting married and this is all about how he and I was speaking at the wedding and I said, look, I'm going to really talk. I know you guys keep score, but I'm going to really talk how he up. And I started out with, you know, a lot of people ask why I waited to name our third child, how he and I said, well, you know, it lot of people ask why I waited to name our third child, howie. And I said, well, you know, it's easy because he's our favorite. You know, he's the best athlete in the family. He's, uh, he's really just our favorite.

And I want to just get that out now after all these years. And, uh, you know, they, they took it pretty well. They were good about it. I love that. I love that. Uh, you, you looked at Chris when he was born. You're like, no, not yet, not a howie. Oh, yeah. Look at Kyle. You looked at Chris when he was born. You're like, no, not a howie. No, not a howie. Look at Kyle. You know the funny thing about the funny thing about Chris when Chris was born, that's something people don't know. I had 11 fingers when I was born. I had an extra pinky finger on on my right hand. And so here we are at the hospital in Santa Monica, and Diana just delivered Chris.

And the doctors, you could see they were kind of, they take the baby and they take Chris over and wipe him down. And I can see there's something going on. And your biggest concern always is apparent parent. It's health and you know that's number one you know gender whatever it is it is as well as it looks healthy baby we're blessed. And Chris had Chris had the 11th finger and they tied off there's no cart lage and you know it ends up kind of dying off and they cut it off.

But we have that in common. Wow, that's such a good tight end. Yeah, you gotta leave that in there. Yeah, you gotta leave that figure. I did want to start with Villanova and we could go through your whole career because it's an incredible career. But Villanova, obviously not known for football,

what was the decision with Villanova and you also boxed it Villanova. You are like probably like the toughest guy in the world, but what from Charlestown, why'd you go? Why'd you end up going to Villanova? It's a complicated story. I left my dad left when I was probably about nine, eight or nine. He grew up in, and these are, this is the story that, you know, I think a lot of people don't know, but my dad grew up in an orphanage from birth to 18 years old. He was six, seven, two, fifty-five, and you know, never played sports and obviously when you're growing up in an orphanage. At 18, they give you the option of going into the military or staying until what was then the legal age, 21. He goes out and joins the army and they put him in the Alaskan's key patrol, throw some head to 20's on him and shove him down the freaking mountain.

I mean, that was his military experience. He's in the Alaskan's Keeper Trail. Gets married to my mom and, you know, we, my sister and I, and we were also separated when I was probably nine. I grew up in a few different households. I had the good fortune of having really, really great extended family. It was a classic, you know, Boston Irish Catholic,

Charlottes down kind of neighborhood family, and it started with my grandmother, who was, who is a widow, and you know, she worked at Woods Milk, and my uncles worked at either the projects or Woods Milk, and you know, at some point, I, each uncle had a specific hand and kind of helping to raise me, but specifically Michael Mike and EG and my grandmother and particularly my grandmother. And the segregation hit Boston school system and I had played sports until then.

This was, this was ninth grade, with Play the Street, you know, it was a dead end street, to be in place. And at the bottom of the street was the outtrain. And you know, you went out, you played, you played, you did everything. Hockey basketball, football, anything. It was on Ruffinford Avenue on a patch of grass

and by Hood's Millican. So we never played organized sports. But when that told the segregation thing to hit and the busing riots and all sports, but when that told the segregation thing to hit and the busing riots and all that, my grandmother asked my uncle Billy and Ann Ada to take me in. He was the first relative. He was then working, I think, at the D-Street Project in South Boston.

He took me in for three years. And a high school coach walking down the hallway named Dick Corbin, who ended up coaching at Harvard with Joe Resteck senior, ended up kind of changing my life when he said, hey, who are you and do you wanna go out and football team and I was 14 years old and I had started school early, why I don't know,

but I ended up at the 17 year old freshman at Lonevo. But long story short, I had two scholarship offers. I had Boston College and I had Villanova. And for a couple of reasons, a challenging neighborhood. I wasn't a particularly tough young kid. I didn't really figure it out until I was about 16, 17. And she had made the decision in great part because she wanted me to get out of the neighborhood

and go down to Villanova and I was recruited by a guy named Bob Owen who was a coach there. I went there with the clothes on my back. It was a challenge academically, it was a challenge socially. It was a challenge certainly financially. I never left. It was a challenge on socially. It was a challenge certainly financially. I never left. I was there thanksgiving Christmas, spring break. I didn't know what spring break was.

I mean, you have no money. Where are you going to go on spring break? I went to summer school there every summer. So I lived in the dorm and I still see the visual of the dorm with Sidney Marie, who's a runner from Africa, and another runner from Ireland, and there were like five lights on the dorm at Christmas.

And I was one of those rooms, and Bill and Ovo was the best experience. I met my wife there. She was a classics major. I wasn't, Reacon Latin. So yeah, and I was in survival mode. And ironically enough, I played with a guy named Joe Rester,

who ended up going to Notre Dame and captaining Notre Dame. You see his name and Rudy in the movie Rudy when he's checking the list. His dad was Joe Rester senior who coached at Harvard for 20 summer buters. Again, you've come to a lot of forks in the road in your life and the interesting thing was a player either got hurt or pulled out of the blueberry game which they don't play anymore down in Alabama on Christmas day.

And Joe Restick was on the selection committee. And Joe, you know, put my name forward, you know, ironically enough, I was on the North team and my coach was a guy named Jimmy Johnson from Oklahoma State. And I end up pointing the MVP, you know, kind of like Kyle's story. Kyle's was more well-known. He coming out of high school and college. So I win the MVP and the next thing I know, you know, they have pro days at big schools. Oklahoma Tech, this Florida, they have pro-day, and all the scouts come and I ran 35 times. I ran the snow, I ran the rain, I ran on the rump lawn of my dorm and sneakers,

where a scout was just coming by and checking a box. No one really, in my mind, had me pegged as, and I certainly didn't think I was gonna be drafted in second round. So, a guy named Raleigh, it comes up defensive line coach, the same coach that brought up Michael Schreihann and great coach. I think he's, you know, it's good defensive line coach, as I've, you know, could ever imagine in the NFL, he built you from the ground up and the prototype was a guy from a small school, didn't have kind of a formulated plan,

build it from the ground up, getting your stance, take the first step. This is how you get off the ball. The whole thing. And they draft me in the second round, and I tell the boys that they laugh. My contract was $38.48, $58.68,, 68, 88, and an option here. Ron Wolf, who went on to Green Bay Packer fame, and he's in the Hall of Fame, GM, a great talent evaluator. He was part of the group that drafted me in the second round.

So I bought a used-coup de villeil. I looked Oakland up on the map. I bought a used cook devil in Tucson, Arizona, from the only agent that would even speak to me. And he was used car salesman. I think his name was Bernie Perlon. And drove out to Oakland and never looked back and lived with a guy by the name of Cedric Harbin. My work a year of play for the Niners was a great player with the Niners and ironically enough was Joe Greens who made in college in North Texas state and we played them that year and Joe came over to dinner and our little house in Alameda and it was you know you're living the life, man.

My check was $1,000, $7 after taxes. So then my sons get drafted and they combine me. Yeah, that's an incredible. I mean, the whole story is incredible. Do you think about the moment when this guy, your high school coach just sees you walking down the hallway? It's like, you know, maybe someone else would have seen your size and been like, hey, let's get this kid in football.

But like these sliding door moments, it feels like you had so many to get to that point and have a Hall of Fame career. I say there's no way. You know, it's whether it's Earl Leggett, it's the Blue Grey game, it's Dick Corbin, who is my high school coach, Bob Capone at Villanova.

I think of Sister Mary Margaret Kribben, who was someone who was, you know, being an athlete, you know, I think at places, you know, it's human nature for a professor at a Bill and Nova or University of Virginia, wherever, to kind of look at an athlete in a different light. And certainly, hey, listen, would you go in that class for us for a year and it's a philosophy class? And the question is, if a cow eats the daisy, does the daisy then become the cow or does the cow become

the daisy? I turned to the guy next to me and said, I'm flunking this person. I have no shot. So it was a challenge. And there were a lot of forks in the road. And I've always had somebody at each fork that, you know, and it's like Fox, you know, I retire. We want to raise the boys in Virginia. We looked around the

country, looked everywhere, from Oregon to Cape Cod. And, you know, Diane found this 65acre parcel with an old 1846 Georgian five minutes from the University of Virginia. At that time, there's no internet. There's no cell phones or a briefcase. You're really left to your own kind of research. And you do chamber of commerce, you're looking at weather, you're looking at crime, you're looking at change of season,

you're looking at proximity to airport, you're looking at university town maybe, and it came down to Chapel Hill and Charlottesville and she found the old Georgian house and we restored it. And you get again, another fork in the road and you know, I'd like to say it was a brilliant decision but we just got lucky and the boys loved Virginia and We had a great time there and and then I retire And I you know, LA at that time there were floods there were fires there was the riots The whole thing and it was like, you know, God is sending, you know, a message, get out of that way.

Yeah. Because it was all happening, it all kind of happened at the same time. And we decided we're gonna raise the voice somewhere else, and we decided to pick up and move to Virginia. I, you know, I'm exaggerating, but we moved to Virginia on a Friday. I got a job at Fox on Monday. That's crazy.

So now I'm one of our raising boys on an obstacle where I'm working. I'm flying out on Friday and I'm driving up to Dallas and it's two hours plus up to Dallas up there. And you take a there and you take a flight and you pray the flight's good and you go out and do the show. And you know, you think to yourself, well, there was a show that was going to be on TNT and there was more money.

And here we had this Fox thing which was a blank sheet of paper, literally a blank sheet of paper. You know, it was Fox Sport at that point. And David Kill and Ed Goren and Scottie Acreson and that whole kind of group at the beginning and Terry and Jimmy and JB who was great. And then later on, we had a curve. We had Michael Strahan who couldn't have computer generated a better guy to be on the show.

You don't think when you're doing that, this is your 30. When I started there, Chris was I think nine. Kyle was five, how he was four. So my kids grew up with, Terry's kind of, he's the street port Louisiana version of Uncle Buck, the movie Uncle Buck. You know where all the stuff that you can't,

you don't want him to do, he does with your kids. Yeah. You know, and he was great. I mean, they love Terry and Terry loves kids and it's been a great run, but did I expect 30 years of doing it? And I coached high school football for eight years back there. I coached Little League Baseball.

I kept the book. And Little League, someone's crying in between innings every inning. And you know, your part, your part, bookkeeper, your part, you know, I don't know what psychologist, you know, it's a challenge, but to be a part of, you know, coaching them for eight years, all the boys in the league and high school, football was important to me and Fox was a network that would allow

me to do that. And I made that a priority. And they certainly respected that. And we're very supportive. And then ironically enough, you fast forward. Here, the nine-year-old is playing in an NSC Championship game or Kyle's playing. I go to that game. St. Louis is playing the Bears and Kyle decides he's going, you know,

getting a bar room brawl. And, you know, he was kind of an awkward moment. But there've been some great moments where I remember when Philly was in the NFC championship game in Philly. And, you know, you got to remember Terry's like an uncle to the boys. So I'm sitting at the desk and our grandson, Wailin, who's now seven, was I, you know, I don't exactly how old he was then maybe three or two and a half or three. And he comes by the set. And I put him up for my lap and we're facing the crowd and behind me

is the stage for Terry's presenting the trophy for the NFC Championship game and he's interviewing Chris and he has a dog mask on. I mean, you know, and I've got I've got I've got Whaling in my lap and we're looking at the monitor and seeing this and it was such a surreal moment. I just, I really have to try to, you know, whether it's Kyle's, Kyle with the Pro Bowls and Chris with the two Super Bowls. And you know, we cover a lot of those games.

We did the Super Bowl. We're down 28-3, I say we, you know, the Patriots are down to 28-3. I mean, Chris had a decision to make when he left St. Louis. And my thought process was, okay, so why are you playing? And you know, you have money, you're why are you playing? And then we said to win, you want to win a championship. And then I said, well, the guy in New England

has gone on X number of times. They've been in the championship X number of times. There have been this many super bowls. They've won X number of super bowls. He really liked Atlanta. He liked the coach, who's now the defense coordinator in Dallas. And he really liked his conversations with them. But I said, New England, New England, he finally decides to go to New England. And here we are covering the game. And it's the first half and then it's the third quarter. And I'm standing next to Terry on the sideline.

And they're down 28 to three. And I'm the worst frickin' dad in the world because I have pushed my son to New England and the team he liked is up 28 to 3 and this is going to be a blow up. And Terry said to me, Terry said to me in like, you know, it's like you call it what you want, you know, I mean, he's a Savon. He just said, don't worry little buddy, cause me little buddy, why don't know, little buddy, they're not going to throw it all around the yard it's gonna be the greatest comeback in Super Bowl history. There it is.

It's a genius Terry Bradshaw certified genius. Yes. First of all. You said your dad was in the Alaskan ski patrol that's pretty tough. Don't discount yourself though because you flew out of Dallas Airport every single week for I don't know how many years. That's harder than being on top of mountain in Alaska. That's in my opinion the worst airport I knew I knew every tree between Charlottesville and Dallas airport. Not Dallas. It's just Dallas became cul pepper. I don't know if you know the area. I'm from Hurned. There was nothing between cul. Yeah, there was nothing between Culpepper and Dallas Airport.

Now it's just merged on down. So yeah, it was a challenge to do that travel. I think year, I want to say 17 or 16. We bought a parcel out in Arizona, North Scottsdale, we built a house out there. So my travel now is much easier. Do one hour flight home. I could be home at seven o'clock on a Sunday night.

Yeah. So I want to go back to the Raiders. When you first, you get drafted by the Raiders and you meet Al Davis for the first time. What was that like? You know, I really wasn't really a historian of the game as a kid of Illinois. I mean, I didn't really think about the NFL. Diane and I both, we laugh about this, but it wasn't in my, in my wheelhouse. I didn't think about it.

I said, you know, I'm maybe I'll get with the team. I remember. And, you know, I've laughed about this. When I went and worked out for the Eagles, Dick for Mill was there and Dick was, Dick is a sweetheart of a guy, you know, Dick. He's a really nice, nice man. And Dick thought he was helping me when he said,

look, before it team cuts you, make sure they try you with all kinds of guard. And he actually said that. And in his mind, I think he was trying to help me. And I, the older I've gotten the more I come to appreciate that. And I said that next to him at the Hall of Fame this year and had a great conversation with him, just a good man. But I get to Oakland.

You got to remember, Villanova has a priest on every floor. You know, and at that time, the dorms were split up, you know, women didn't go in the dorm, you know, on after a certain time of day, or, you know, whatever the rules were, there's no alcohol. It's a dry campus. You walk in that locker room, and guys are smoking sale and lights and playing cards,

and it's the Oakland Raiders. And the characters were larger than life. And the first day you're going against art shell and gene upshot on pit drills, and just a couple of months go on playing Delaware in front of 3,000 people. So it was a bit of a shock. And thankfully, I survived my working year and got through it.

Yeah. So you're, that Raiders team, first of all, you, you, you got the best compliment of anyone, I think, ever, because Hunter S Thompson, I think, I did a whole piece on that Raiders team that won the Super Bowl. He called you the Manliest Man ever, which I don't think you can get a better compliment than that from Hunter S Thompson. The Manliest Man ever, which you are, I can attest to that. Did you spend some time with him? Was he, like, when he was doing that piece with the Raiders? Because I'm sure that, like, just seeing that Raiders team, all the characters and everyone involved, it was such an iconic team.

It wasn't an iconic team and it had great characters. You know, the Lake Cliff branch, you know, all those people that, you know, you talk about it's Ted Hendrix. Ted, first, Ted was the smartest player I would play. Ted could come in on a Monday morning after a long Sunday night and we pop up the video, the upcoming component, he called playets, but while I was at it, Matt Millen, who is one of the great characters,

and if you can, you could pull up Matt Millen, who is one of the great characters, and if you can, you could pull up Matt Millen, how he longs at Sullivan. It's an image, and when you see it on your screen, you're gonna go, oh my God. So what had happened there was we were playing New England and the playoffs out the Coliseum, and we kind of craft the bed if the end had a fumble or whatever there was a specialty's player, whatever it was.

I mean, we all could have played better. And we knew it was, but there was an article in the Boston Globe earlier in the week about how the Patriots never looked at vocal talent. And he took great offense to it. And I knew he was. I mean, at. Now, I didn't know who he was. I mean, at that age, I didn't know who was in somebody's front office. I didn't know who was on our front office, but suddenly, well, I didn't know what round wolf did. I didn't

know he was the GM because you didn't have titles with the Raiders. So this guy's walking him down the sideline yelling at me throughout the whole game. I'm saying, why is there a drunk guy on their sideline? And I didn't know what the deal was. So now we're walking off, and Matt and I would always walk off together. And this guy, I could see the guy, my head's on a swivel everywhere I go. So if I'm in a restaurant, I eyeing up who's the biggest threat. You know, when I'm walking off the field, my peripheral vision is keen and I see this guy coming towards me now. Now, he's saying, how are we? How are we?

And it seems like he wants to make friends and I'm just ignoring him. And he said, you know, hey, how are you? You know, I said, And he said, hey, how are you? I said, I just gave him a hand or whatever, and he started walking. And he said, you don't know who I am. No, I don't know who you are. And I think I'm paraphrasing, but he said something like, I own the team.

And then it dawned on me. And I said something like, unless your dad died last night, you don't own shit. And he he extended his hand towards me and Matt saw this and Matt clubbed well, allegedly. Yeah. I'm sure it's right. Yeah. It's right after he allegedly, allegedly punched the GM of the Patriots in the face. No, he didn't. He hit him with his face. No, he hit him with his helmet.

Oh, he hit him with his helmet. The miles burned. Yeah, allegedly. Assault. Allegedly. That's incredible. And, you know, I've seen, I've seen, you know, him now, later, you know, in years, because he owned on satellite trucks that the satellite trucks that broadcast the games.

That's his business. And they sold the Patriots. And he's a nice guy. Seems like a nice guy. And it was just heat at the moment. Those things happen. But they generally don't happen with a civilian. I mean, it's one thing you get in a fight at work.

Fights at work where you've gotten fights at work, and that's kind of the way it was. And then it was, you had the beat writer, you had just three major networks. And there's no, you know, there's no sports radio, there's no, you know, internet, there's no 5,000 shows talking about a jaco laser, not in your closet or under your bed. Yep. You know, there's nobody. So things don't leave the building, fights on planes, fights in the locker room, fights on the field. Those things didn't happen. And plus our facility was, it was, we were an island onto ourselves.

You know, the building was nobody's in the building. There's nobody in the building. I compared to New England, I remember one time, you know, the building was nobody's in the building. There's nobody in the building. I compared to New England, I remember one time I went up and I was doing a story on one of the Patriots, I think maybe it's Junior Sao. I think. And you know, Burj, who's, you know, gentlemen who works for the Patriots and he's kind of builds right-hand guy, said, you know, build one and bike-checked practice. So I go out practicing, it's the indoor bubble, and name another practice

where there's not one person, not one person, not friend of, not sponsor, not, there's not one person in the building other than me standing on the sideline. And that reminded me of our building, our building was like that. Al was like that. Al was larger than life. And he had a, he wore a cologne that, and the defense of life always was way down, you know, on a

secondary abbreviated field during individual period where we, you know, we did warm up to did individual drills. And he'd walk out of the building and you could smell that perfume and I'm telling you, every coach, every was parkered up immediately because he was at every track. Yeah. And he was brilliant football mind, good boss. I remember one time he walked up to me, I'm sitting on my helmet of practice. And he said, long, you think you're fucking tough. And I'm saving myself.

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while getting an awesome haircut. Sport clips, it's a game changer. Sport clips, I love sport clips, best haircut in the world. And now here's more how we long. I mean, these raiders seems like I said iconic. When you guys play in the Super Bowl, the story kind of goes that the the Eagles were all buttoned up, you know, no one's going out and the raiders. That's the, that's the, that's the 8812.

Okay, all right. So that was the 8812, but the, the raiders from Al Davis down, it felt like the, the team played with such swagger and kind of this uncontrolled chaos. And could you feel that when you're standing on the side like these guys are crazy, but they're on my side. So I'm happy they're so crazy. Well, Lyle, I was able to, um, you know, and it's a, it's a really kind of a funny story. But while and I, while came there in 1982, okay? Strike short and year. We're practicing in Oakland, but we're playing in LA. So every game's a road game.

So Lyle and I are living in a single hotel room with two queen beds at the Oakland Airport Hill. Now I'm living in Lyle, Lyle's Aido in a room. Think about that. I'm 22 years old, 21, 22 years old. He was, I called him three mile-lyle, you know, bless his heart because it was, you never knew when, you know, it was gonna explode.

You know, he was the never, kind, tyrannical. He was a car carrying bad man. And we were close. As close as a 30-4-year-old and a 22-year-old could be. And we would take a cab, well, you know, we'd stay at the hotel down in LA, we'd take a cab, first cab drive, right after the team meeting in the morning.

Everyone else went up to the room, they left the stadium at maybe 10, 30, 11 o'clock. We left at 9.05, we wanted to be there early. Lyle will get dressed, he lied, 10, 30, 11 o'clock. We left at 9.05. We wanted to be there early. Lyle won't get dressed. He lied down on the floor, fully dressed, not pads, you know, shirt, pants, cleats, taped up, the whole thing, and we're falling asleep.

And I would pour over, you know, out of East Near I, right, they run this, 17 times. You know, that was my way of doing things. So we get in this cab and you see the cab driver who goes to the stadium. So we're going, we don't know where we are because it's our first week in LA, you know. He takes us to Dodger Stadium.

Okay. Okay. Now the meter, Lyle had a, you know, it's like a mood meter. Yeah. It's like the RPMs in your car when they're on red and he was just curious. And so, this repeat itself, you know, we finally get to the Coliseum and we take the cab every week. That's what we do.

We did that in 83. We went to the Super Bowl. So, we're down in Tampa Bay and this is before the Super Bowl became, you know, the crazy kind of, you know, roadblocks, you know, concrete barriers. I mean, 9-11 changed everything. You know, I remember we did that Super Bowl down into World of Hots, which was, you know, really kind of an eerie experience. But so here we are in this cab going to the stadium to go to the Super Bowl. Try to imagine that. Yeah. So we're in the cab going and stadium down in Tampa Bay, the old stadium. And we get caught in traffic like a mile and a half from the stadium. Jam pack traffic. Kyle wants the cab driver to go up on the curb

and drive down the curb. The cab driver, bless his heart, I don't know how long he'd been here and he was, the communication was a challenge. And Lael was and met this and bat. And we get out of the car and Lael was aido and I, we are back walking through the parking lot of the stadium Super Bowl 18 to get to the stadium and from the cap. Yeah, now you got police escorts. You got the whole mind.

That's insane. Can you talk a little bit about your acting career? I've always been a fan of Firestorm. Thought that was a criminally underrated movie. The VHS copy is in Canton. I remember when we took the tour, they've got a copy of the movie right there. Fantastic movie. But what I didn't realize about your career is that you were supposed to be in that thing you do. You actually, I'm in the director's cut. I'm not. I'm in the director's cut. I think it was it was a Disney film. I think it was a Disney film. I believe it was a Disney film. So I think it inferred that, I and Tom Hanks and I were,

you were gay culverts. Yeah, yes. Although there was nothing tangible to point to that other than, you know, you kind of put two and two together and watching it. So Tom called up, he's a raider fan and, you know, he wanted to see if I'd come down and do this and I did. They fit me for a Tuxedo and I'm driving this car and I met this historic hotel in downtown LA that was closed. And we shoot this scene late at night and I'm waiting for him and one of the band members

who's a problem needs to get back to wherever. So, you know, I'm excited. I'm in the film and the film comes out and I'm not in. My assumption was, and I can't, you know, because it's in the director's cut. If you watch a director's cut, it's in the director's cut and you can you tube and watch it. It's an awkward little scene. But yeah, I did that and then I got a call about broken arrow You guys did that and then I got a call about Broken Arrow and John Wu was directing Broken Arrow and I was supposed to be there for three weeks.

I ended up staying for three months and John Wu kept coming in my trailer and saying, you're John Wayne, I make you bigger, you know, and just kept coming in and, you know, adding. So I'm basically driving around a home with John Travolta for, you know, for two and a half months. And, and Fox, it's signed me to a two-pitcher deal with, they had the right, if someone else made an offer to do something outside of that contract to preempt me within five days. Disney made an offer to do a film and they came up with firestorm. Not only did they preempt me but they had me do the film during football season in Canada. So I'm getting done with our show, landing in Canada, going to customs, the whole thing, getting to the hotel, getting up at 6 o'clock in the morning,

Monday through Friday. I'm up in the woods in Whistler, shooting this film, go back down, I've got a production meeting Saturday morning. I've got to be back down there on Friday night and it happened for three months. And I'm getting calls from home, from Diane, where the boys have set up ramps and they're jumping their bikes in the pool and you know how he's getting pulled out of car pool. So that film for me, whether, you know, listen, I'm not saying, you know, that was a direction I would go in or, you know, I was any good, right? But the option of it to me wasn't viable, you know, because here I am, I'm on the road for three months, I'm working seven days a week, right, for three months. And the boys are home and dies there, and she's, you know, she had a

bribing law practice in LA. She went to see law school, USC and she had given all that up to raise the boys. And here I am on the road and she's by herself. And, you know, she's got these kids. And I made a decision at that point that, you know, it was going to be about them as much as it possibly could be. And I don't regret a bit of it. You know, I don't think you ever regret that. And I think I saw this somewhere, I don't know where I saw in the video,

somebody said, the greatest accomplishment or the biggest compliment you can get is that your kids as adults want to spend time with you. Yeah. And, you know, I'm very lucky that we have, I have Diane, Diane's the same, so she has a great relationship. But, you know, the dad thing being a football player and two sons playing pro football, there's a lot of, there's that father's son, angst.

You know, they're always being compared and, you know, whether I want to be reminded, they want to be reminded of it. You know, they, they're reminded all the time who their dad is and I tried to be in the shadows as much as I possibly could be and, and try to enjoy the ride. And, and I think we did a, it's good job if we could.

I want to go back to, I mean, you have done an unbelievable job. Your sons are great and we love them. So I'd say you might be dad of the year, dad of the, dad of the millennium, including manliest man on planet earth. I wanted to go back. I want to go back to a quick story about the lockout year.

A little birdie told me that you're a good basketball player and used to play and pick up games With the Lakers who were pretty good at the time. I if I remember is that true? No, no, no, no I'll tell you what it is One I did play You know at that time there was no OTA. We didn't have much of a weight room You know Nutrition was a non-factor physical therapy,

beat tissue, none of that. It was none of that. Basketball, like at Villanova, was my way of staying in shape and playing, and I played with the guys from Villanova, and he picked me at one point. We had a cord up here in Montana, our first house, a black top cord. And I remember it was the Steve Kerr, Larry Kostolovia, Frank Bukowski, the brothers, the Barry brothers, were up there, we would have pickup games up there. Occasionally, you'd see, I don't remember playing against anybody that was of any consequence

in the NBA, but in LA. But up in Montana, every year, there was a party up here on the 4th of July for all those guys and the basketball, the group ball got together and they we played pick up games over at my house uh on the lake. So what's your game like? Is it a football player playing basketball or do you have a real basketball game? Because you know what it looks like when a football player plays basketball. Yeah, you know, I would say no left because my shoulder is, I had a replace a few years ago. I mean, that didn't go up above my,

it's like that, it stops. So left hand wasn't great. Enjoyed running, I could run. And that was the thing that, and I always told the boys, I said, you get an opportunity to run, show somebody you can run, even when you're big like Kyle, a run.

And Kyle's like the tiger at the zoo. Tigers laying there on the ground, and it's cool, and it's for it's big. And then all of a sudden it gets up and takes off, runs 10 yards, and jumps over a 10 foot wall. Yeah. You gotta show people that you can do that.

And all you want to do is compete whether that's playing defense or You know what your role of it. I Enjoyed love playing basketball. I couldn't imagine being paid to play basketball Yeah, that would be so much fun. Now I can't you know I mean with all the surgery because I can play basketball anymore What about your audition for Fox NFL Sunday for that show? Because we love the show, right? It seems like you guys get along really well watching the relationships between you guys develop over the years. It's been a big part of a lot of people's football

watching experience, but I'm curious, what was it like when they're starting to show and you're auditioning for it? It was, I had gone, well, you have to kind of let's set the table and not knowing this at the time. David Hill came over from Australia and England and you know, Skype CV and you know, he'd done everything there wasn't doing Europe and Rupert had him to create this box sports out of nothing and hire everyone. And the pregame shows at that point we're half hour. And the thought of doing it one hour long pregame show,

people were saying you're crazy, what could you do in an hour? And in an hour, as you know, flies by. It just with commercials and everything else just flies by. And no one told me what they wanted at the time. They were just running people in and doing it. And I thought they wanted like five costas. And I did every conceivable research can points on games, watch the

million games, you know, it's a hypothetical week. And I spoke to the committee, I literally spoke to the commissioner, I spoke to multiple coaches, I spoke to, you know, and I had a stack of papers this big. And what he'd seen was, he'd seen me doing an interview like this and where he saw that you know, local news or whatever, or I did HBO inside the NFL and I had my own segment where you literally ran the proctor with a scroll.

You wrote it on a scroll. Mm-hmm. Honestly, God, you wrote it on a scroll, and you had your hand down here hitting the button to start the prompter. And that was kind of my first experience with doing something from a national standpoint. So I go in there and I'm buttoned up, I'm stiff, I'm doing the kind of prototypical

David Hill wanted to show that probably like your show where, you know, it's two guys sitting around having a conversation in a family room and and until it gets to that point where you actually feel that way, you're not capturing the essence of what he wanted. And, and it, you know, Terry was very helpful with that. You know, day one wasn't good. Day two was better. And they wanted a player, a defensive player. They wanted an offensive player, quarterback. They wanted a head coach. And that was what they, they cast. And that was what they cast. I mean, it wasn't a great audition from what I gathered. David Hill reminds me of that all the time, but I said, well, you know, you 30 years

later, you did something right. Yeah. How long into the show until Terry said something just outrageous? That really like popped that balloon that really made everybody seem like, I have to imagine that he's the one that kind of made everybody comfortable and went off script or went off on a weird tangent, maybe mispronounced the word cap, I don't know.

No, well, let me save this. And you're a classic example of this. He's got that jig clamp, he's got that J-Clap that, I'm going out to the cement pond, do my consentons, downpap. He's rode that thing all the way to a bank account that, you know, trust me. He's one of the smartest people I know.

Truly, he really, really is. He's brilliant. When you turn on the light, regardless of what's happened during the week, you know, the issues that he's had over the last two years. And you know, the last two years, you know, he's dealing with the medical issues that he's had, you know, people didn't realize how challenging a difficulty was and what a challenge was for him to you know to be on there and be you know sharpen coherent and all that. He's a brilliant guy but trust me we're not a rehearsal show we do our show live we don't rehearse. And the reactions when he says things. and the reactions when he says things are so genuine because it's like, oh my god, did he just say that?

You know, he's kind of the white Charles Barkley. Yeah, it makes the show. Yeah. Yeah, it really does. I've always said that. I think Terry, you know, God bless him. You know, it's 30 years. We've been together 30 years. And, you know, early on, there were, you know, we couldn't look. We couldn't be any more different. You know, I'm from Boston. He's from St.Port. He's Baptist.

I grew up Catholic. Villanova. Louisiana Tech. Quarterback. Defensive lineman. Stealer-rater. You know, he's. We couldn't be any more different, but he's like the older brother I could have never imagined having. Yeah. It's a great

relationship. Yeah. We want to talk a little ball about this year. I'm sure you've done some prep. Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, what's a team that you've got circled that you're like, okay, this is a team that could some some people that maybe people aren't you know looking at not a chiefs or you know An eagles put a team that you're like the I like what they're building and I can see something this might be the year they take the next step Um, I think there's about it. It's interesting because I looked at it from that perspective last night, but you know, I was sitting here late last night and I said, you know, look, Kansas City Philadelphia, Buffalo Cincinnati, San Francisco, Baltimore, Dallas, Chargers, Jets are, are they, are they, are they real? Is it, you know, a mirage? I don't know, but it's going to be fun to watch.

is it, you know, a mirage, I don't know, but it's gonna be fun to watch. I would say, seems like, and I'm not sure if the Seahawks are surprised, but I kind of love what they've done there, what the GM and the head coach have done there, again. You know, they had kind of a little, they had a little bit of a gap there where they got off track and, you know, maybe know maybe they hit on the draft picks that they usually hit on particularly with mid-round picks and you know you certainly want to hit on a quarterback and I think the quarterback for them at this point and I think he's a you know he's he's you really had a great year last year he's a bridge to you know whoever that is down the road whether it's through the draft or create whatever it is But they're a team that I like Jaguars. I think you're are gonna be a team that

You know, I remember that that game down there in the in the playoffs and we were at a dinner that you know Jimmy was talking about maybe retiring So we didn't get to see a lot of it. And I went back and looked at it again. And I like what they're doing down there. I like Doug. I think Doug brings a comp, particularly to the quarterback room. And I think that's, if you've got a quarterback,

you have to have somebody, somebody. And you know, whether it's in Detroit, with their offensive coordinator. And I like what Detroit does. And you know, whether it's in Detroit, but they're offensive coordinator. And I like what Detroit does. And you know, the head coach is, he's great. He's just, he's great TV. He's great, he's a great listen. You know, I can relate to him.

I think Russell, Russell is, you know, I coach against Russell in high school. So, you know, I've seen him for a long time. He's been the city. The guy you see over the last 10 years is the same guy who wasn't college, same guy who wasn't high school. You know, he was one of those guys that was 20 when he was 12, you know, just mature. I remember he was throwing a football

because Kyle and him played baseball against each other. They both got drafted major league baseball. And I was in a parking lot in Richmond and I was throwing a football with him. And here's a 13, 14 year old kid. And I called University of Virginia and I said, there's a 13, 14 year old kid down here, Richmond that throws them all better than anybody you have on the team.

Jesus. Now, you need to, you need to, you know, off for this kid, that was before, you never went off prototype. Decide, whether it's, whether it's bill par cells or you know, you fill in the blank, any great team at that point, I'm not going to be a big part of it. I'm not going to be a big part of it. I'm not going to be a big part of it. I'm not going to be a big part of it. I'm not going to be a big part of it.

I'm not going to be a big part of it. I'm not going to be a big part of it. I'm not going to be a big part of it. I'm not going to be a big part of it. I'm not going to be a big part of it. I'm not going to be a big part of it. I'm not going to be a big part of it. I'm not going to be a big part of it. I'm not going to be a big part of it. Brussels is a guy that I think needed Sean Peyton to come in.

I think you always have to have a friend. I don't know if you do, you know, I had friend Bill Pequette was the teammate of mine, Queens, the York guy, and you know, Diane certainly, you know, would be someone who would say to me, you know what, you're acting like a horse fast, you know. Come on, dial it back. Get, get, let's get back on who you are, what you're about, and

let's get the train back on the tracks. I thought Russell got big, not because Russell was out of shape. Right. Russell maybe just lifted too much. He was, Russell's not on shape. He's never going to be out of shape. To say that Russell fell off a cliff in one year with, he had some injuries, you know, let's back to that end. The offensive line was bad. They're running back, went down, you know, there were there built-in excuses, but you have to be able to read the room, particularly as a back guy. That guy has to be kind of the barometer for the team. He sets the pace, he sets the agenda. And I think Sean, as a guy that will come in,

he's not afraid to tell you, you know, the office thing, that's not, no, we're not doing that. The coach that you have, you know, in the office looking at filmmaking suggestions, no, we're not doing that. We're you know, in the office looking at filmmaking suggestions? No, we're not doing that. We're going to get back to the basics. We're going to get back to run the football. We're going to make the offensive line better. We're going to get back to doing the things and tailor the offense to a version of what Sean's run down in New Orleans and adapted to Russell.

That defense, what did they give up? 16 points of game. Yeah, they were awesome. Yeah. Yeah. You give up 16 points of game in the NFL. You should be winning some football. And now they lost some close games. Denver could be, I think Russell's going to be better.

I love Sean Payton. Sean Payton, look, Sean Payton can talk to Barkoff Tree. You know, he's, he loves football and loves talking every single play and, you know, sitting in the green room with him was, you know, I've had a great luxury of being next to Jimmy Johnson for all these years and it's like, you know, the Einstein of football and how to build a football team and how to manage people. And the whole thing is sitting, you know,

two seats down for me for almost 30 years. He took a three, I think three years off to coach Miami. Sean was a different perspective and a different way to look at it, which I think was really good for me at least. I enjoyed hearing that. And I think he's going to be great for Russell. And you've got a new colleague, friend of ours, Julian Edelman, joining Fox.

Yeah. I hope you're ready because he's probably listening to this right now, actually. You have to be ready to just beat all the Patriots, hom-isms out of them, because he's going to be like a PR person for the New England Patriots on set. You have to be ready to be like Julian, you're not calling it straight, you got Bill in your ear. Bill, Bill, the art of being a producer on a show is, and Bill has mastered it.

It's a one-word kind of pop in your ear, which is great. I don't need somebody, nobody does. Nobody needs someone barking in their ear. Bill does a great job of a Julian. Listen, when you've won as much as he's won, and you've won as many super bowls as he's one. God bless and knock yourself out. You want to puff your chest out. You certainly can do that. I mean Terry's one four. He went to four. One four was two time MVP. Those Steelers, I think one four and six years. So I'm used to it.

I'm used to, you know, everyone on that set has a reason to peak cock up, you know, and I think he'll fit where I'm at. He seems like a really, really good guy. I had one last question. It's a rowback question. This has been great, by the way. We'd love to have you on any time you want to talk, Paul. It was, it was a, you are a guest.

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I, you, you have, you are. I'm not about that. Yeah, no, you do. You do. Um, I'm a nine iron. I look good from about a hundred and twenty. I don't know them. What would them? We're drivers where I don't have a worry. Mapo is driver in a potato gun. 340 and you're 340 to look good.

I'm a howitzer. Yes. Yes. Um, so the other little birdie note I got, you're a big bowter. You bowed a lot. You're out in Montana. You also rescue a lot of people with your boat. How many people have you rescued in your life with your boat?

I can't imagine being in distress, whether you run out of gas or whatever, and having how we long come and rescue. That's gotta be the coolest feeling in the world. I don't know if when you're in peril in the water and whether it's your sailboat or whatever is capsized, and you're scrambling to kind of, you know, long stay on the boat, and hope the boat doesn't sink

or other people that are broke down and you've got to pull them in. It's Montana, it's a 28 mile long lake, and it's 15 miles wide at the widest point. And like in Chicago, you Chicago, that lake can, it can act like an ocean real quick. And we've certainly built some people out. But you know what?

I would hope that if my wife was out there on a boat, and I was on the road, that somebody would do the same thing. I mean, it's just, it's like, you know, we used to do that. I remember when you used to drive down the road and somebody was on the side of the road, you know, you say to yourself, you know, should I pick this person up, you know, nowadays, you're inclined not to do it because you don't feel safe

because I don't know whether it's the news or the volume of news where you're just afraid to do things like that. But somebody's out in the water that's yelling for help. Yeah, I'll hop going to do anything. I'm not going to do anything. I'm not going to do anything. I'm not going to do anything. I'm not going to do anything. I'm not going to do anything.

I'm not going to do anything. I'm not going to do anything. I'm not going to do anything. I'm not going to do anything. I'm not going to do anything. I'm not going to do anything. I'm not going to do anything. I'm not going to do anything. times that we rescued people. Over 15. That's incredible. You're super hero. You're a real life superhero. No, please, there's a lot of people in this lake who are done the same thing. We sold our original boat was 22 foot cobalt. We now have a 28 foot because with the grandkids and everything that we wanted to be safer.

If we got caught up in big fork with a storm, the ride back can be pretty rough. Our neighbor was a doctor and he was just a sweet heart of a guy in our first house here. He was out there by himself in our 22 foot cobalt and he was at the deepest point of the lake which is 390 and it's right off the highway. A highway meaning two-lane road that pumps up to the mountains. So the mountains are on one side of the highway and the lakes on the other. So I could throw baseball from the road into the mountain or into the lake. So he's probably a mile and a half to miles into the lake. He's fishing, he's kind of trolling.

And his rod falls over, he goes over to grab it, he's 64 years old at the time maybe. He falls out of the boat. Now the boat kind of goes away from him and he's in the middle of boat with jeans on, T-shirt, he's got the rod on his hand, he keeps up the rod obviously. At some point, he took his jeans off because it's extra weight. He's got to make it to that highway where the rocks are

and you've got to climb up on the highway. So now the question for you as a good Samaritan driving down the road, are you stopping for the 63-year-old guy in your dad's white BVD with blood running down his leg because he's climbed up the rocks and he's near dead? Jesus. That's the question. Yeah. I don't know who stopped for him. Somebody did stop. Yeah. I don't know who stopped form. Somebody did stop form. I don't know if I would have stopped fighting. It's a natural visual.

That's the first episode of Breaking Bad. I have one last question and you have to answer it honestly. You and your prime. Okay. Chris and his prime, Kyle and his prime Kyle and his prime Wrestling match who wins. Oh good question Kyle is You know Chris and I would Chris is hard to kill Seriously you just have to kill him. I mean that's the way to stop him Kyle is frightening to stop them. Kyle is frightening. When he puts hands on you, it's a different kind. It's like some people are, I'm heavy-handed. He's heavy-handed on a bigger scale. He's like, you know, the Schwarzenegger movies, you know, he's kind of a robot. Terminator. I'm T1, he's like T4. Bigger, you know, it's this big truck. Terry's offensive line average, 255. Think about that. Yeah. Biggest offensive line league,

average 3.20. I was at the Hall of Fame game and Kyle was playing the game and I typically don't get out on the field when the boys are playing. I just try to avoid that. And I said to myself, you know what, I'm in the Hall of Fame. I'm going to get out and watch my son warm up. So I'm watching him down there and I'm in the end zone. The offensive line is down the the corners they always are. And he starts from the 20 yard line, he's walking toward me.

And as he's walking toward me, you don't grasp. It's like NASCAR. I don't get NASCAR watching TV, right? Car's going around a circle. You go to NASCAR and you get up on the fence and a car was by 200 miles an hour. You get it. Oh, I get it. As he's walking towards me, what's running through my head is how the frick would I deal with that? And you know, it's, we all, all you could do is play in your era. And all you could do is be as good as you can be in your era.

And, you know, very proud of the fact that, you know, I was an all decade player in the 80s and read you why it was the other defensive event. And, you know, very proud of that. You fast forward now, the biggest offensive lines, three 20. Cross the board different game. So it's anyone who says it's not It's it's clean Eastwood and Grant to Reno saying get off my lawn. Yeah, you know, it's it's trust me I have no problem saying that it's bigger. It's stronger. It's faster. And that's the way it is. Yeah, so you think Kyle, you're taking Kyle wrestling now.

Yeah. I think Chris would take Kyle in a wrestling. Can you keeping me? Your hope is that you can land some kind of, you see a boxing match where it appeared to be a glazing shot at the head. So how did that knock him out? You pray you get something like that.

Because otherwise, listen, you're in Chicago. I mean, I don't know if you've heard some of the stories about practice there, but he's had some of the guys who got in some calls. I've got some calls at the end of the day where you beat three people up in one practice and they asked and leave and they said, to spend it in for a preseason game.

I mean, he's hard, he's the nicest guy in the world. He really is, he's a sweetheart, he's our sweetest kid. When the switch goes off, it's hard to bring back. That's why we have him on our side. That's why we stay friends with them. He's a good guy to have on your side. Chris is tough with a capital T and hard to kill. You've got to kill him.

He trains every day with that mindset. Yeah, it's crazy. Still. I mean, he's down the gym here when he's up in Montana and I watch him, I go, what's he training for? You know, the same thing that all of us are training for. When you walk out your door, is there a guy in the bushes that's been waiting

to kick you to your ass if you're limping a little bit? You know, you gotta be ready. You gotta be ready to be hard to kill. Yeah, I love it. I love it. Well, how a thank you so much. This really has been a pleasure. We'd love to have you back on anytime.

Good luck. Your 30 incredible achievement, especially when you think about media business, guys come and go and year 30. It's really, I would say being year 30 in the media business. It's probably harder than playing over a decade in the NFL just because of how the change happens. So both accomplishments incredible. And thanks so much for your time.

Well, I appreciate you guys. I, you know, a lot of people listen to your show and love what you guys do. And it's certainly my family does, too. And so I've heard a lot about you guys, don't know a lot about it, but between Kyle and Chris and everybody else, they kind of let me know how great you guys are. Appreciate you having me on.

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Find your next possibility on cars.com. Where to next? Okay. Time for Mount Rushmore. It is tight. What is the rankings right now? Big cotton PFT 30, Jake and Billy 28, Hank and Max 27 with nine total points left on the board this week. Wow Nine total. So this is it. This is the finale amount Rushmore season this week

We'll be the last three and then someone will be in a 24 hour stream with their partner For all of us to watch Nareight, so what happens if there's a tie? Yeah, we should probably figure that out tie for last place Are we going 12 and 12? Oh, man? No, we got to figure out some kind of competition for last place tie right? I mean is it is it just a tie, right? I mean, is it, is it just a mono, a mono mount rush more on the Tuesday after Labor Day? That's scary. I think it shoot out. I think it has to be a mount rush more. We have to decide it with a mount rush more. Maybe if it's a two, if it's a

two team tie, what if we did one mount flush more? Because it's not Mount Rushmore season anymore. Hmm. Hmm. Two point tie for last year. I mean Tuesday Wednesday technically it's NFL season. Maybe it's, maybe it's, it's two, two Mount Rushmore head to head and then the two guys who won and memes get to vote on air. Who won and lost them out, right? No, absolutely not. Well, down.

No. Okay. All right, so then we put it up to the, yeah. Okay, I think we stick with the formula. Okay, all right. Wow, that was shut down fast. Uh, what? Well, there's a lot of room for hankylanky

if we get other votes as well. That's true, that's true. Okay, so, so if there's a tie, it's a Mount Rushmore to win it all on Tuesday after Labor Day. That's true. Okay, so, so if there's a tie, it's a Mount Rushmore to win it all on Tuesday after Labor Day. That's fair. Types of water. Between the two teams. Types of water. We've never done that before. Between the two teams. And then the winners can are allowed to denigrate during the Mount

Rushmore. Yes. Right? Yeah. Okay. There's been a good Mount Rushmore season. Yeah, I mean, great moments. It is what it is. I'm not. I'm focused on the future. I'm ready to go as hard as I can this week. Last last Sunday doing three on Sunday was you kept on saying that thinks like you guys screwed me. You guys screwed. Well, I screwed myself. I I was all over the house.

Right. Just my brain was not firing on any level. And you can get away with that in one game. It's kind of like, you know, you think you're a reliever. You just all I'm a little hungover, I might have to pitch an inning, and then they're like, nobody, you're on the bump starting.

Triple header, yeah. What, so when you were gone for vacation, Max cooked. Max is gone for vacation. I'm ready. You cooking? I am buzzing. Haven't had a sip of alcohol. Have you, that's a lie.

Have you, we did sobering off all weekend. Well, I always do sober. Yeah. We you, that's a lie. Have you happened? That's Jake, we did sober golf all weekend. Well, I always do sober. Yeah. We put you to drink Friday or Saturday night? Friday, but that's a weekday. Friday's a weekday. No, Friday night. Friday night is a weekend.

Friday day is a weekday. Friday day, what are you doing during the day? What are the weekend days? Friday night. Wednesday weekend. Friday night is a weeknight. Friday night is 100% a weeknight. Also, Friday after Friday is a weekday. You're saying that you drank on Friday night. When's the weekend? Friday night is a weekend night. Friday night is 100% a weekend night. Also, Friday after five is the weekend.

You're saying that you drank on Friday night, did you stop drinking at midnight? Definitely not. Possibly, I was early night. Also, Friday after five is literally the weekend. That's when the weekend starts. No, the weekend's a midnight on Friday. No, it's not.

Friday is a week day. All right, so then you gotta start working until midnight. I've told you, it's not. No, it's a week day. Absolutely. You've got to start working until midnight. I've told you it's all September. Friday at five. That's it's like the best time of the week. That's the afternoon. Friday at five is when the weekend starts. This is insane. The week is Monday to Friday. So the week would end when Friday ends. The week ends when you leave work on Friday. Friday night is a weekend night.

Yes. 100%. This is insane. You're just doing the bodybuilder form right now. How many days in a week? Five or seven. No, I'm saying how many days in a weekday, there's five a week days. How could there be five weekdays,

three weekends and seven days? What? Because Sunday night is not a weekend night. Sunday nights are school nights. It's a school night. Yeah. It's right. It's right.

It's school nights. Sunday night is a weekend night. No, it's not. You're more on. You want to put up a poll? No, I know. What's more a weekend night? Friday night?

We're not going off. I'm going off technicality. But that's actually. Sunday night is of a weekend than Friday night. It's not Sunday, we're not going to, I'm going to have technicality. But that's actually. Sunday night is not a weekend night. Sunday night's a school night. Correct. Friday night is a weekend tonight. Not my, okay.

All right. Okay, so we're up to Hankenmack. On the second place and then more. Oh yeah. So 30, 28, 27. Who's in last Hank and Max currently? Okay, you got a lot of we got a lot of cooking. We got to do yeah I said I said max a lot of you know a lot of notes. I was trying to listen in I was really active Max today's text me cook and text me a name for someone thing that's not an animal

Okay, uh was Billy involved in this Jake Yeah someone thing that's not an animal. Okay, was Billy involved in this, Jake? Yeah. Where the Billy Shrine was, was memes involved? That's all I need to know. No, okay. Good. To the Billy Shrine, you said Billy has a strategy. Because that was the other thing.

I was, I was playing Hurt and Jake was playing with a buff because there was no Billy and he had memes. It was on, it was. I'm also worried I misunderstood this assignment, but we'll see. Okay. Well, Jake, if you're looking for a fictional fictional animal you could take the eagle that you got today Allegedly Hank was right there. I was as is impressive. All right, so what's your order? Hank and Max big captain

Yeah, same order every week. I still don't remember it You don't fucking know when a weekend night is it's not the same order every time Saturday and Sunday Okay You don't fucking know when a weekend night is. It's not the same order every time. Saturday is on day. Okay. Shut up. No. You're making me mad. If you say I don't work on the weekends,

what day is that? Friday night. Friday night, you don't work. Friday, you are such a liar. So look, this is all stemming from the fact that you got hammered on Friday night. You try to backtrack, you know. I didn't drink all weekend. I didn't okay. All right. What's your order? And give max. Yeah big comp FT. Okay us all right

Don't bang on the table. Yeah, okay, that was my Hey, come on Hank. We're gonna go one one Probably the biggest animal franchise of all time, the ring leader of it all, Bugs Bunny. Okay, good pick. Bugs Bunny. Great. That's all folks.

Yeah, that wasn't our one one. Don't care, didn't ask. Okay, I'm just selling you. It was a good pick. It was a good pick. Should we go our one one? Yeah, let's go one one. Yeah, Brian from Family Guy.

Great dog. Great dog. Very full time dog. It was on the list. Yeah, full time dog. Tell the list yeah all time dog what tell me what bugs money what's your favorite bugs bunny moment probably when you know they beat the monsters okay sure you're a like Brian's like Brian from the family up Lola really really taught me a lot of my youth good you

guys like Brian from family guy or Brian the carrot Brian from family guy Brian from family guy when he would Brian from family guy Brian from family guy When he would stump Elmer Fudd over there's the answer that's the correct answer. You should have gone with that one The goat is duck season rabbit season. That's the best. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right good pick Do you want to say anything about us? You don't want to say I like yours. Thanks. Thank you. The talking dog very cool I would have we would have taken him if you guys didn't love that Jake love that from yours. Thanks. Thank you. The talking dog. Very cool. I would have we would have taken him if you guys didn't Love that Jake love that for me. Thanks Speaking of dogs. We're gonna go with Scooby-Doo. Okay Good miss Reese. Yeah, it's all in the series like and he's all time good vibes guy great. Dang. Yeah

You know, it's actual it's kind of a dog with you can speak kind of not speak Brian's it's really not believable Fucking dog dude. No, he's a, kind of not speak, Brian's really not believable. What do you, is he a fucking dog, dude? No, he's a really talk, he just, it was like, woo, no, he's gonna go, that's how dogs are, it's like you can kind of speak them, but you can't. You don't like Brian from Family Guys? I just, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna,

Wait, so, so Bunnies talk? All right, next thing. Oh no! No! Do you know any dog that kind of talks? I have your dog. Yeah, do you know any bunnies that kind of talk? Yeah, I watched a video today Girl shaking her head and the bunny responded

That's not talk talk. That's not talking sign language. That's not talking. I respect all languages All right next we're gonna go with Patrick star Okay, he's starfish. Yes. Yeah Patrick's awesome. Oh, yeah, no, what is he what what's a starfish? Okay. What's what's SpongeBob? He's just a sponge, but I don't think he's he's not an animal. I don't think he's an animal. Okay. You want to take our second? Yeah, okay, I mean, yeah, teenage mutant into turtlestles. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Beast. Love them.

Do you have to pick one? Favourite. Yeah. We got to pick one. To we? Why? I mean, is it fictional animals? Or fictional animals?

You take the living to, you take the living to, and the zombies. No, but I mean, they're all animals. They are all teenage mutant Ninja Turtles. They're the same. They're brothers. Oh, it's totally, you value them all the same. Yeah, I do. I respect all of them Ninja Turtles. They're the same. They're brothers. Oh, it's clear you value them all the same Yeah, I do I respect all of them equally. Yeah, fictional. I PFT said I vote fictional animals

Those are fictional animals What is your technicalities? Do you not want us to take the hall of the teenage reading his journals? No, it's unfair, but sure Okay, let's do fair, but sure. Okay, fine. Let's do fair. We'll do fairness. Okay. Should we take one of them? Yeah, we take your your guy, Michelangelo. Michelangelo party dude. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Cowabunga. Pizza all the time. Yeah. Is that okay with you? That is. That's the that's the best

turtle. Say teenage mutant into turtles, parentheses, Michelangelo. I'm a I'm a Raphaafa Elguy myself, my glangelop. Tiam NT, my glangelop. Yeah, okay. Hank and Max. I think Hank's regretting his first pick. I'm forgetting a lot of things. I'm gonna be in this room. Snoopy.

Snoopy classic classic classic. Which is perfect. Peanut's cartoon. Probably Thanksgiving. I think it's a lot of things. I'm gonna be in this room. Snoopy classic classic classic. I caught it. What you could pick P nut's cartoon. Uh, probably Thanksgiving. Charlie Brown Christmas.

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I mean, you've gone Bugs Bunny and Snoopy. We're just going, I've locked up the six year old vote. Yeah, no, I know. I think you're dad's going to listen to this and be like, get him Hank. Yeah. Yeah. That's my point.

We're going to go Mr. Ednext. No, but sticking with the theme, we're gonna be with Winnie the Pooh. Okay, good good pick. Winnie the Pooh's a classic. I like his ride at Magic Kingdom. You're it's kind of I like you are, but yeah, big bomber. Yeah. What was that? It's more your song. And we the pood just doesn't wear pants ball respect. And we the poo just doesn't wear pants ball respect Pft we have our fucking board open. Yeah, I think we go five How do you know we thought we thought Brian from family guy would get picked right away. Yeah, let's go five air butt Real the go on the list. It's a real dog. They use them in the movies. It's a fictional animal though. No, I looked it up on the Wikipedia. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Yeah, it was that a real thing that happened where dog was like, there's a dog,

a plastic ball. A plastic ball? No, it's a fictional animal. Airbud is a fictional animal. I would have taken it in my first two. No, Airbud is a fictional character that the dog is. The dog is an incredible animal.

You don't think Airbud's a fictional animal? It's entirely, I feel like I'm insane. It based on a true story that doesn't believe his dog. It's not a based on a true story doesn't believe this No, Hank's you you didn't think of it. I had it on the list So then you then you're fine with it. I'm only mad at jake and Hank is just I also Do not research would you not research me to figure out what fictional means and you should have taken them first because that is airbud is the definition of the animal.

The name of a movie. The dog. Dog named buddy. Yes. The dog. I'll change you. We'll take back airbud. You give us all the ideas.

We need to show. I think that's bullshit that I'm just saying. I'm just saying airbud. I don't know if we can get a third party. But you understand what fictional means. This is insane. It's insane The dog that you play basketball in a real life. Yes, it is a real dog in the video

What is so that means that any any any like dog like animal doesn't count? I haven't heard any other ones on the list. Okay, we have other ones though Earbud is entirely fictional. It's a movie about a dog that plays on a high school basketball team that didn't happen. He forget about football, PFT. And he plays, and hockey. And hockey? Yeah. He did the Laker Game Half-Time show in 1991.

I know that the dog is real. So it's based on true story. Airbud is a fictional character that the dog plays in a movie. Yeah, but the dog is often more of that. You know how acting works, Jake. All right, so it's often hiring a fictional scientist. What? No, but silly Murphy is just playing a

uh, uh, but air bud didn't actually play in a fucking high school fast. I'm showing the later days. It's not real story. That's fine. Well, no, no, everybody's a character. It's completely different from the dog.

You guys don't want us to take it. We can't take it, but like this is... I mean, personally, you had them on your list and you didn't pick them. I feel bad for jikki. I didn't want them to pick them. Shut up, dude. Shut up. Well, Jake just goes to fucking Buzzfeed for all these, anyway. No way. Everyone was the first one I thought of. Why didn't you pick a shit? You thought we were going to say,

Oh, fictional. Not fictional. You thought we were going to say that? I probably would have. No, you were. All right oh, fictional, not fictional. You thought we were gonna say that? I probably would have. No, you were. So wait, what's the, what's the, I stand by, I think everybody, that's a rock solid. I say by Jake's research, but, I guess that's the same.

But even with his research, he did the halftime of a Lakers game. Do you understand that he's a character? Hey, he's a writer mode right now. He's a character in a fucking movie that plays a basket like he plays in a high school basketball game. Does he not? Yeah. Any plays on the high school football team airbud defenseless retriever. Yeah. It's a great. Great series. So that is fiction. Yeah. You understand that part. Like yes, it's a fictional. That's fiction. Yeah. You understand that part. Like, yes, it's a fictional thing.

That is far as a fiction, but he's still and the dog. So that would make him a fictional character. I mean, it's a real dog, like it's buddy. But it's fine. Memes, can we get a vote? I'm so confused by this entire conversation. It is airbud a fictional character.

Like we got memes having in Shane here. I trust, they can. It is airbud a fictional character. Look, we got memes having in Shane here. I trust they can vote. Airbud's a fictional character. Thank you. Unless there's a dog that was playing varsity ball. Yeah, right. But he did do the half time show at the Lakers. Yeah, no, Jake just doesn't understand what fiction means.

Yeah. I mean, I was so mad at Hank just for... I knew what you were doing, right? He's on his shoulders. It's a real thing And that might be if you had picked it none of us would have said this Yeah, I was really debating him or winning the poop and I was like I'll stick with the glasses We would never have said a word

You thought you you thought like you had your big trump card. I was pumped I yeah All right, I lost the vote I should okay next pick He was he was just like going through all this research for this big moments trying to get us with air bud What you guys would you guys don't know is that taking them the dog that I would have broken my own rule But no, we none of us we would you know what you if you're taking air But we would have said good pick we had him which you're not getting your big cat Paying all characters and a fictional which you're not getting is that the dog is a real dog

He existed Yeah, is he dead? Yeah Was he in every single? Was he in every single movie? I think so what I mean that they it fell off a little bit the football on slapped and then I think volleyball's when it started to get a little unrealistic Wait, didn't he play hockey they also did a MXP they did oh Yes, that was terrible. Yeah chimpanzee. We did snowboarding. Oh, yeah most most extreme primate. Yeah, they should do when we're airbud joins the military No, he wasn't in every single one. They had a bunch of

Direct to video ones that he did not start airbud joins the military and comes back And then his dog greets him at the door There's airbud world pop airbud seventh inning fetch airbud spikes back that's volleyball Snow buddies space buddies Santa buddy spooky buddies treasure buddies Sounds like he retired just it's cashed in yeah air bud He was on America's funniest home videos were all the buddies were those his offspring? Yeah, I believe that was a storyline America's funniest home videos. Were all the buddies were those his offspring? Yeah, I believe that was a storyline.

I think in like the fourth or fifth one he had offspring. Oh, but in, I might have been the volleyball one. But Hank, in real life were they his offspring. Well, it's all, it's a documentary. So I was gonna say that's, that, that would be proof that he's playing a character. Yeah, I was just, I was, I thought you guys were gonna, you know, take Jake for his word, but.

Okay. Jake's doesn't understand fiction. No, he doesn't. It's okay, Jake thought you guys were gonna take Jake for his word, but. Okay. Jake's does understand fiction. No, he doesn't. It's okay, Jake, you don't understand fiction. That's all right. Whatever. Anyways. He actually was only in air butt.

Right. So he wasn't even in the second one. He wasn't even in taking the air butt front of these defenseless retriever. No, and spikes back and golden receiver. No, that's just it's proof that it's like it's like James Bond multiple dogs can play it. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. All right, we're gonna go. We're gonna go with Pikachu. Okay. Mouse like creature. Okay. I'm gonna allow Pikachu is. It's an animal. Okay. Yeah. That's it. Actually, that's good value for this round. Yeah. Yeah. Good job, Jake. Thanks. And we're gonna end with the classic Mickey Mouse. Okay.

Mickey Mouse in the last round is no matter what you say about him. It's like when, that took LeBron. Are you familiar? I hate on it, but. Jake, are you familiar with the origin of Mickey Mouse? I'm not, no. Pretty racist. Oh, yeah.

Very, very racist. Actually, very racist. Look up the cartoon, Steamboat Willie. You just took a racist mouse. You just took a racist mouse. Wow. I mean, you guys took Kanye, one, one. Yeah, that was great pick.

It was awesome pick. Those albums were incredible. Listen, Walt Disney was also a virulent anti-Semite Jake. Yeah, we also, I mean, people pointed out after the fact that what was the one we tried to take that was, oh, Toy Story, that we couldn't take Toy Story as a trilogy and you had Star Wars that has like 17 movies. We right. I know but that people pointed out that was that was bullshit I didn't but people did okay people did yeah, okay PFT while we we got our board open we do I

Like 7 8 9 10 I like, uh, 7, 8, 9, 10. Ooh. And then on the secondary list. We have a secondary list. I like number eight on the secondary list, but. Oh, yeah, let's do it. Yeah, yeah. La La Bunny.

The first one. Non-nerved version. Non-nerved when she still had that ass. Yeah. So long. All the money, it prints these first versions. First version. Yeah, the hot version.

The one that gave everybody boners Yes, no no no, no, yes, because there's there's no It took away your tits it at you can't have airbud then you're gonna Prince I had to princess airbud. No, it's too just multiple airbud. There's multiple All of our picks is too distinct little about our picks should be Low-lobody hot one. No air. You can have an air bud fix. Prince these fictional characters. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

Princesses Michael, a Joe Brian from Family Guy. Princesses great pick. Tell you what, Hey, I'll, I'll take low, a bunny parentheses, the hot one. If you take low, a bunny parentheses, the ugly one.

I find a little bunny but I mean people know we're talking about the hot one. Could we do parentheses first version? Low-low-bony parentheses 1990 what was that 97? Yeah, 96. Whenever there's a lot of teenage meetings, turtles too. You want the live action teenage meetings? I want all of Michael and Jill. Yeah, we got all of them.

All right, so you get Michelangelo live action version. No, no, no so first version no Was take little bunny don't know we meant Hank This is great because this is what like the reason why Like no one wants to be in this box. I think we're gonna be in the box. I think last week fucked us. I think this was a bad draft.

You mean us, we fucked you because we made you drink? Yeah. Yeah. You had a partner. Listen, you didn't drink at all this weekend. Yeah, you wanna know what Max sent me? No, what is Jessica Rabbit? That's on our pair.

Who is that? It's not a real care. It's not a fictional animal. That's not an animal. Well, I guess humans are animals. Was she part animal? I guess she was part animal. I think she was part animal.

I don't think so. Her last name was Rabbit. That's very confusing. She married a rabbit. Oh, God. It took the last name. That's very confusing. She married a rabbit. Oh, God. It took the last name. Not a very boss woman. No.

So we're just going to hope and pray that the classics take us to victory in. Wait. Garfield? No. Oh. You might take Garfield now. You didn't think about what was on your list. You didn't take my, what was on your list? You didn't even have Garfield on your list?

No. I had no help. Do you want us to help you? No. We'll give you a pick. No. Okay. Kermit the frog.

Okay. You take the classics. Yeah. Okay. Okay. I hate it. I think you guys, okay. You take the classics. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. I hate it. I think you guys, I was a good draft by you guys. You never know though.

So I guess the drinking thing was turns out science proven wrong on that. You should drink before. You should drink on Friday. Oh no. Like I thought that was gonna help me be make better picks at then. Maxly down. What was Billy's strategy? So Billy said if it's a children's card,

to take it off low key, they're kind of lame. We got to choose badass ones. Like, that was his strategy? He said, because I sent him the list that I had. And he said, the dog from I am legend, the dog from Sanla and cocaine bear. Cocaine bear? Okay, they're actually not fictional.

Yeah. Oh, it was real bear. I wasn't considering taking it, but he didn't want to take it. We also had, we had Hercules in our list. I said, the majority of fictional animals are kid friendly. I have free willy. Bluey. Bluey, blue is clues.

Yep. Is Elmo an animal? Well, he's like a monster. He's a monster. A big bird. Jaws. Barney? Barney was good. That's good pick scary King Kong. Yeah, we had King Kong Godzilla jaws Taz Taz is a great one. I don't know what kind of Tasmanian devil. Yeah, there it is

Yeah, you remember Joe camel the cartoon camel that sold cigarettes to kids very cool that guy ruffered Clifford the big red dog, Tom and Jerry. Riley Coyote. Ragle, the dragon from Game of Thrones. Yeah, why didn't you go with it? I'm rattled. I mean, I had to start with the classics. I just need, I don't even know, that's an L.

Rocky the raccoon from Avengers. I thought about Pikachu. We haven't seen the Avengers so that'd be Panda pick. Yeah, flipper. Donkey from Shrek. Donkey from Shrek. Donkey from Shrek. Oh, I'm a pig.

Nemo. Nemo's is really good. Yeah, that's why we banned them. Yeah. The rat, Remi, right? From Ratsuit. Yeah, that one's a good one. All the 101 Dalmatians.

Hank, if you had taken free willy, I would have just, I would have gotten so mad at you. Oh, you fucking hate Orcas. Scrooge McDuck. He rocks. Yeah, I mean, the lead it could have learned a thing too, just fucking jump over and free yourself. Yeah.

Pull yourself up by your bootstrap. Yeah. Appreciate the end of that one of those movies. He literally just jumps over a seawall. Yeah, he does. Yeah, he could have done a full time. I thought I had to text our resident nerds, Clemen, Robbie Fox, asking if baby Yoda was an animal.

And they said, as much as we're animals, so I didn't think he could pick it. Yeah, I'm glad nobody picked a human and tried to, Billy definitely would have picked a human, but like, well technically, we're the most dangerous in. Max did. Yeah, just around. I mean, Brian from Family Guy's a human, but whatever. What a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, talking dog, but the talking rabbit is living with humans, it's living with its own kind.

It literally walks around with Elmer Fud the whole time. Oh, it's own kind? It has Manian Devils own kind. No, but like other animals. Elmer Fud is the enemy. Yeah, you're pro segregation. No, I just don't like the, I think they should just have to start

barely as a good pick. But it's written as a person. He talks like a person. He does person things. Kermit the frog literally lives with other humans. What are you talking about? There's Miss Piggy. Yeah, but he but he lives as a piggy.

Miss Piggy is simping hard and he just not wanting a piece of that. He lives with like, doesn't he talk to humans? Do he lives in the fucking, he lives in Manhattan? No, no, that starts with him, like they have to rescue him out of the pond. He lives on Sesame Street. Which is, do they have streets in the pond? Yeah, and he talks to humans.

Sesame Street humans are on that show. They talk to all the animals. No different than Brian. Very different, that's all right. That's a good pick, it was a good pick. I'm not sure. No, you're mad. I didn't take it. You're mad, you didn't take it. That's a good pick. It was a good pick. You guys had a good draft. Thank you. So do you

Thanks for any of the 80 80 your my grandfather will love Joe Biden's gonna love your draft AW come for it. Yeah, yeah, it's up Joe. Let me get that dog you got no Joe's definitely he's been asleep for a while He's been asleep before how he long even came on. Probably wakes up at 2 a.m. though. He eats dinner at 10. Uh, okay, yeah, imagine he just wakes up, yeah. At like 4.30 to take a piss and he's just sitting at YouTube and like memes.

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All right, let's do numbers. Three. 99. 38. 10 for Shane. Meves you ever got in this I've not one. I'm gonna go with 69 6 Hmm thanks number six god Drake Did you guess six? That was where you want ended the streak. Oh? Six-half. I don't remember that Basically never happened because I was the old machine.

Pull like that. Last one to win there. Not true, Jake was. Yep. Congrats, Jake. Yes, Jake was. This is, I mean, wrong. What, do we have the clip of the last lottery ball

if we're drawing that one? It was Jake. Officially? Well, you got it yeah, wait a minute on the record Jake no yes yes it is they could take all the others going for those records but like they only extended it like eight times because you got it no no then I eventually got it it was official just a count just your banner I have it run down. But you got it too that day. Good job, Hank. You got it too. I also think we may have not reset the machines

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