Pardon My Take - Jaguars Head Coach Doug Marrone + The Grit Week Finale Inbox x

Episode Date: May 25, 2018

It may actually be the Caps year. We went to Game 7 in Tampa and the Caps are marching on to the Stanely Cup Final (2:20 - 9:08). The Rockets win James Harden weird drug game and Chris Paul is injured... (9:08 - 10:20). Lebron is tired because he's reading too much and JR Smith is the most important player on the Cavs 10:20 - 19:15). Grit Week recap plus PFT met 3rd Leg Greg at a bar (19:15 - 24:59). Jacksonville Jaguars Head Coach Doug Marrone joined the show to talk about creating winning team, how much he loves football and bologna, what it means to earn your pinstripes on the Yankees, and his brief acting career (24:59 - 65:27). Segments include Sabermetrics, Protect the Shield, the debut of "He Gets It" for Baker Mayfield, Talking Soccer, and Jimbos. You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, ad-free, on Amazon Music. 3-2-1. 3-2-1. 3-2-1. 3-2-1. 3-2-1.
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Starting point is 00:00:23 3-2-1. 3-2-1. On today's part in my... What was that? What are you talking about? Will it jump start? No. Are you good?
Starting point is 00:00:33 3-2-1. Is that pretty workout hack? He's one that can't read an ad read. Oh, shit. Is that Baja Blast that I can? End of bottle. Delicious. Wow.
Starting point is 00:00:44 I thought that was only available at Taco Bell. So did I. All right. 3-2-1. On today's part in my take, we have Jaguars, head coach Doug Morone. We actually got to tour their entire facility, had an awesome talk with him. He is an ultimate football guy. We hopped in the pool with him.
Starting point is 00:01:00 He... I think he wanted to eat my nipples because they look so much like Bologna. And we also have the end of Grit Week, a little Game 7 talk that we were at. And before we get to all that, we have the Cash App. If you haven't heard, we're switching to the Cash App. By now you know it's the number one ranked app in finance and lets you do the most with your money. Whether you want to pay people back, buy and sell bitcoin, deposit your paycheck right
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Starting point is 00:03:44 It is three, two, one. Stop. Three, two, one. Welcome to part of my take presented by SeekGeek. Today is Friday, May 25th and might actually be the cap year. I think it is, man. I think it is. I haven't really stopped smiling since last night.
Starting point is 00:04:08 I actually cried. You're actually doing the, you're actually like at your hands behind your back, you're so relaxed. I'm so relaxed. You're doing the Patrick Bateman suck my dick while I flex in the mirror look. I am so relaxed right now. It's just, they shit pumped the lightning. It was beautiful.
Starting point is 00:04:22 I was in the second row, but I snuck down to the third row at the end of the game. A lightning fan in front of me accused me of being poor because I snuck down to the seat one row ahead of me. I was like, bro, actually I own a sports team. Do you own a sports team? He goes, yeah, I do. He goes, what sports team do you own? I was like, it's in New Zealand.
Starting point is 00:04:38 You've probably never been there because you're too poor and he was like, yeah, you got me. Wow. You guys did a little swing and dick off, huh? A little swing and dick off. He didn't expect, he didn't expect a short kid rock looking guy to come back at him with actually a sports team. How much money do you make bro? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Kind of situation. Yeah. So the caps game, I mean, it was a shit pumping. You were nervous for, you were nervous until the third period. It felt like the lightning were going to score. They kept on coming and coming and then they just didn't score and then boom, it was like, yeah, hope he's not going to give up one night. So the game's over.
Starting point is 00:05:13 They kept coming and coming and didn't score, coached by Rick Petino. Yeah. I'll tell you what, Tom Wilson, that is a star. He's a badass. I fucking love Tom Wilson. We make fun of him a lot because he tries to cut people's head off with his skates and he intentionally hits people in the head and some gray areas stuff that he might do like that.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Hank, you taking some nudes over there? You starting to grab some nudes? By the way, shout out to me for missing the game winning goal because I was getting you a beer. Thank you. Two minutes into the game. Thank you. I missed the game winning goal.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Thank you for your service. Yes. I'm going to get the hell out of that, dude. Ovi had another great game. The narrative that Ovi sucks in the playoffs is dead. That's dead. If I hear you say it, if I hear you say it, you're a fraud. Still got to get the monkey off.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Steve Young, got to get the monkey off. Okay. I'll say this. The narrative is not totally dead, but he's no longer on FraudWatch. Yeah. He's also going very gray. We were that close that he was, he looks kind of like my hair. So that's one similarity between us two, you know, premier athletes.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Yeah. It's like a snow leopard. He's from Siberia. So he blends it in the mountains. So we are going to have John Taffer on the show on Tuesday for the mayor's bet. Are you excited for, are you nervous about Vegas? I'm more nervous about, about disappointing Taffer. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:06:25 I have to be on my A game when I'm around Taffer. Oh, wow. So call me out. Okay. No, I'm not, I'm not worried about Vegas. I am worried about Ovi in Vegas. You like to have a good time all the time. Yes.
Starting point is 00:06:35 I don't, you know, not a lot of stuff to do in Las Vegas to distract you from the game, but I'm sure if there is, he'll find it. Yeah. They should just cut the, cut the bullshit and rent him a room at the Palomino club. Yeah. Just a little bit. Okay. Ovi, you're sleeping in the VIP room.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Yeah. Just let him, let him get it, let him get it out of his system right away. Game one. And then he can bounce back for game two. Tell him the first game is on Sunday. And then when he wakes up on Sunday, super hungover, just be like, actually, we lied to you. It's tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Yeah. It's 24 more hours to party your dick off. Yep. All right. So we're going to be looking forward to the Stanley Cup finals. I still cannot believe the caps are in it. It's like, it's shocking. And I'm not saying this in a mean way because I too root for and have rooted for loser franchises,
Starting point is 00:07:17 but like the caps for a loser franchise, just like the Cubs were a loser franchise. So to get over that mountain, it takes a lot. And so it's like still shocking that they're in the Stanley Cup final. They're going up against one of the original six teams. If you count like the last 20 years, the original six teams from the last 20 years. Yes. All right. The, let's talk NBA playoffs too.
Starting point is 00:07:38 So we're going to have two game sevens. I'm just going to say that right now. We have two game sevens. The Rockets are not dead. We proclaim them dead. We proclaim them very dead. We? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:49 We threw a lot of dirt on them. I think we had proclaimed them dead two months ago. Yes. So, and guess what? Not only are they not dead, but they just survived the James Harden weird drugs game. They did. Well, it's because he was over 11 and three pointers. I don't know how that's possible.
Starting point is 00:08:03 I feel like James Harden has never missed 11. Well, actually no, he's missed more than that because he, I think he was over like to finish game four as well. He's like, oh, for like 21 of his last 21 three point shots, right? I don't think he's ever done that in his life and he's doing it right now. It's because Steve Kerr is so woke. It's like a black cup of coffee for him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:20 Sobers him right up. So he'll be fine for next game. They also didn't get a good performance out of Chris Paul. I mean, he played okay, like down the stretch until he pulled his hamstring. Well, he started. He didn't have a good shooting. He started throwing, he started throwing shots like he was throwing them in the ocean. He was throwing shots from like behind his head that were going in.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Yeah. And then he hurt his hamstring. That's the exact way that you expected Chris Paul's season to end. Somehow getting injured in the playoffs in a very disappointing way. Steph Curry's got to be so upset that, that somebody else took his injury narrative away from him. Yeah. I, I really do think we're like, I know that people have talked about it, hot, hot takes
Starting point is 00:08:54 have talked about it, but the who's man is a real situation now with the Warriors. Them passing to Draymond with like six seconds left. How is Kevin Durant not, I don't understand how Kevin Durant's not taking the last shot in that game. Right. Or, or five. Right. Draymond is like option number four.
Starting point is 00:09:10 Right. At that point, but to give him the ball, the big factor was obviously AI being out. Yes. Classic Silicon Valley. Can't function without AI. Yes. Iguodala being out like ruins everything the Warriors do because they don't have a bench. That's the problem with super teams.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Can't get a bench. That's right. So, wait, wait, wait, wait, are you blaspheming Swaggy P? Not on my airwaves buddy. Yeah. I think I'm going to do that. Swaggy P is the perfect example of when he plays six minutes a game for the Warriors, everyone's like, look how great the Warriors have made Swaggy P.
Starting point is 00:09:42 And then he has to play 15 minutes a game and you're like, oh shit, he's still Swaggy P. No, he gives a spark. They just use that spark to light a huge ball. Yes. And then in the East, looks like LeBron's tired because he's been reading too much. He is tired. So, the alchemist has tired him out.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Well, it's either the alchemist or it's the fact that he's inhaled so many chock fumes over the last five years when he does his little pregame routine. His lung capacity just isn't what it used to be. So that game, Hank, we were at game seven. You watched that game. The Celtics, it seemed like they dominated basically from the entire, from like halfway through the first quarter. And LeBron, I was watching the replay and he was hand on his hips, hand on his knees,
Starting point is 00:10:24 like six minutes into the game. So I don't even, I don't know if he's tired or he's trying to make everyone believe he's tired, but something's up. I think he just knows that they're not going to beat him at home. He has to save it for game six and then try and pull out a miracle game seven. I really think in like the third quarter, he was just like, all right, I have to play back like every other night for the next three nights, I might as well just stop. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Yeah. Which makes sense because I do think this one's going seven as well. I think that, like I said last episode, JR Smith is the beaver to this series. You know, beaver, you can, the beaver health makes an ecosystem go around like the health of the beaver population. Yeah. I've heard that before. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:01 JR Smith. I don't know whether he's making threes or not. That's how the calves go. Okay. Like you can basically say that JR Smith is the most important player on the calves. I agree. I actually agree with that. You're a hundred percent right.
Starting point is 00:11:12 I also think that Brad Stevens sometimes struggles coaching against such a bad coach. You know what I'm saying? Yes. Ty Loo is such a bad coach that, and Brad Stevens is such a good coach that he can't put himself in the mind of a serial killer. He needs, he needs to like just smoke a bunch of bath salts before drawing up a game playing against Loo because you can't guess the weird moves that he's going to make. It's like the World Series of poker when it got really big and all the old farts were
Starting point is 00:11:37 like, man, we, like we can't even predict these guys anymore. That's why we keep losing. It's like, well, maybe you keep losing because there's like 3,000 people playing and before it was 20 of you guys sitting in a smoke filled bro. And poker is largely a game of chance. Yeah. Right. And so that's, that's basically what Brad Stevens is dealing with right now.
Starting point is 00:11:53 He's like, I don't know what Ty Loo is going to do. So I can't game plan against him because he might just not play Kyle Korver. Right. So in a way, hiring a really bad coach is actually like hiring a really, really good coach. Yeah. Exactly. Keep some guessing.
Starting point is 00:12:08 So Hank, what's your prediction? What's your prediction? When all the superman? Yeah. Exactly. I think they're going to win six. And I think, I think if they don't, they'll still win game seven. So we have to ask the question guys, favorite question in all of sports.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Is this LeBron's last home game in Cleveland? My favorite question in all of sports. I don't think so because he's going to sign another contract somewhere else and then he's going to do another big announcement and come back to Cleveland in like five years. Unfinished business. Unfinished business. Yeah. After the Cavs miraculously get six number, first overall picks in five years in a row.
Starting point is 00:12:42 I don't know how that math makes sense, but it does. And then LeBron's going to come back. He's going to come back and he's going to be the first player owner for his last season. Yeah. Yeah. They'll let him just buy the whole team. And Dan Gilbert will go back to Detroit where he owns, I think 97% of the buildings in Detroit.
Starting point is 00:12:57 Yeah. And they're all doing really well. They're all crushing. Dan Gilbert, a genius businessman. You guys think LeBron's going to win? Do I think LeBron's going to win? Yeah. I think he's going to win the next game.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Yes. I think game seven is a total toss up. I think we're going to get two game sevens. I really do. Well, it's actually another game one for LeBron, isn't it? He's had a lot of game ones this postseason. What do you mean? Because he sucks in game ones.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Yeah, true. He likes to fill them out. Yeah. He's busy reading. No, now it's a, well, it was a three game series. That's why he sucked last night because it was game one of the three games. Did you see in his post game press conference, he was wearing headphones while being interviewed? It was, I almost puked.
Starting point is 00:13:37 I puked a little in my mouth. Really? I like to think that LeBron James has been like boning up on learning French this season. And so he just had one of those UN translation headphones on. He was hearing the questions to him in French. So he can go drink some wine in the off season. Yeah, he can speak more knowledgeably about the nice Bordeaux. Yes.
Starting point is 00:13:53 The shot of him reading the Alchemist was so funny. He was not reading it at all. Do you guys know what that book's about? Hank read it. Yeah. I forget it though. Okay. That's right.
Starting point is 00:14:03 Hank read it on Paris. You read a couple of pages. I read the first like three chapters. Okay. It was going to be my nightly way to prove to people that I could read. I did it one time and then I just forgot about it. I think it's like you touch everything you touch turns to gold. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Isn't that an Alchemist? Yeah. And I mean, Deli got a huge contract. True. True. By playing next to LeBron. So. Tyloo won a championship.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Spot the lie. Wait. Oh, we totally forgot. Well, let's talk about Great Week before we get Doug Murrunk. Yeah. PFT, you have a third leg Greg store yet. Yeah. So I got to meet third leg Greg last night.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Great guy. Great dude. He really got through. I fucking own his life. I'll tell you what. He is responsible for the fury that the lightning came out in. They, you know, that home, home ice advantage was tip top and it was all because of third leg Greg's pregame speech where he just basically gets on the mic and says, let's make some
Starting point is 00:14:50 noise. Can you hear me? Tampa. Tampa. Yeah. Here is your lightning, your Eastern Conference champion, Tampa Bay Lightning. Third leg Greg and basically any other in arena host just has a the source in front of them at all times for different ways to say, put your hands together.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Yeah. Let's make some noise. Well, they just basically read all Imagine Dragon lyrics the entire time. Yeah. Yeah. Let's go. A lot of Imagine Dragons. A lot of Imagine Dragons.
Starting point is 00:15:20 I'm not saying that it's bad. It's actually great. No. America's best classic rock band. A lot of Imagine Dragons. There was a lot of Imagine Dragons. So yeah, so after the game's over, go to a bar that's like right across the street from the stadium.
Starting point is 00:15:32 There were a lot of Caps fans there. There were some lightning fans, but a lot of Caps fans. And I was up on this balcony and we had this capital's flag that was hanging over the edge okay. Somebody brought and third leg Greg comes upstairs and was like, you guys got to take this off. And the people who had the flag were like, why is it because it's impolite what you're doing right now.
Starting point is 00:15:51 It's his city. And they're like, no, we're just celebrating. We're not starting a fight. We're not calling anything out. And so third leg Greg, he storms downstairs and he's like, I'm going to get security to take care of this flag situation. No one rubbed their flag in my face. So he disrespects a flag and then he goes downstairs and I'm like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:16:09 I'm going to get a picture with third leg Greg and send it to Big Cat. And so I go down and I go up to the table that he's at. Or the people pointed out, they're like, hey, that's third leg Greg. Oh yeah. Well, that means you could see his dick from there. Yeah. A mile away. And he's leaning forward like a tripod.
Starting point is 00:16:23 And so he's easy to spot. And I go up to him and I'm like, hey, man, let me get a picture so I can send it to my friend Big Cat. I know that you guys are like really close friends. He's like, I don't know who Big Cat is. I was like, yeah, he do, yeah, he do. And so I start taking a picture with him and he's like, I fucking hate this guy. I'm taking a picture with him, right?
Starting point is 00:16:40 And then his wife, our girlfriend comes over to me and she's like, oh, are you PFT? I love like part of my take. And she starts taking pictures of me and talking to me. And third leg Greg turns to his friends, he's like, I can't believe that my wife's talking to this guy. Yes. And I of course, like play it off. I start like, I start flirting a little bit just to like put in third leg Greg, no, who's
Starting point is 00:17:01 the alpha in this situation. And I do that for like five minutes and he's just, he's fuming and he's just talking to his buddies about how he can't believe that she's even talking to me and he's getting so, so mad and it's very funny. And then I start to walk away and then one of the guys that was sitting at the table comes up and they're like, hey, man, that was hilarious. So that's not third leg Greg. And so it's just like, just a random stranger the entire time.
Starting point is 00:17:24 A random dude. So he was never at the bar. Third leg Greg was at the bar and he was the one that got the flag taken out. But this was a lookalike. This was an imposter. So you were very drunk. Well, everybody in Tampa looks. No, I was sitting at a bar watching the first period of the Caps game and I thought I was
Starting point is 00:17:39 sitting next to third leg Greg. Well, the game was going on. Yes. Yeah. I'm telling you, everybody in Tampa has that same look. He doesn't have to look. I was going to say suck to third leg Greg's wife that would have been great. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:48 She listened. If she listened. Well, if she listens, I feel very bad for it because she has to deal with that huge dick all the time. Yeah. That's true. She's probably wheelchair bound. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Take a night off. Take a weekend for yourself. All right. We so we're at the end of grit week tired a little. We had we had the I think this happens every great week. We had a moment where we were all just sitting in the cab tonight and speechless for about 30 minutes. No words were said.
Starting point is 00:18:16 We all were just at our, you know, most exhausted. Oh, by the way, I completely forgot to say for anyone listening right now, if it sounds like I am seeing better than usual, it's because I'm wearing tactical glasses while I podcast. Yeah. You're at. You probably can hear this. Your ad reads are on point tonight.
Starting point is 00:18:34 You can hear how well I am seeing right now. I think that's actually just showing off. He's got his font on like size eight on his computer and I was like I bought these tactical glasses for 1999 at a rest station and it's I've been like, I might, I might wear them all the time. Dude, I might just be like a professional bowler. Yeah. You can put you can put the word tactical in front of anything and I'll buy it.
Starting point is 00:18:53 True for 1999. Yeah. It's just, yeah. You just tack another 20 bucks onto it. Yeah. Yeah. Tactical is if you're wearing something tactical, then you're an operator. If you're an operator, then you're badass.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Yeah. People know people know not to fuck with you. Yeah. So we're at the end of great week. It's been a great week. Do we want to do our favorite memories or or whatever? I don't know. How do we end a great week?
Starting point is 00:19:15 Drink paint. Yes. That was pretty awesome. That was pretty awesome. That was sunny digital studio. Sorry. Getting insanely high in sunny digital studio was awesome. Um, getting him, we were like, we were already insanely high and then suddenly digital walked
Starting point is 00:19:29 in. We're like, feeling them out. He just pulled out like the biggest bag. Oh, yeah. And just started flashing it in the camera. Like, all right. Party on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:37 Um, I mean, taking a dip in the Jacksonville pool. Yes. Pretty excellent with the jeans on. Yes. With Coach Doug Morone as a lifeguard. Especially because it was like a bajillion degrees. Yeah. It was so hot.
Starting point is 00:19:46 Uh, meeting the award-winning glisters in Tampa, that was like, we got there late. We tweeted out where we were. And then all of a sudden they like, it was just out of no, it was almost like a field of dreams. Just like walking out of the corn stocks. There was just a shitload of award-winning glisters at the bar. It was awesome. Um, let's see.
Starting point is 00:20:02 I mean, it's, I mean, it's been a great week. It's been a success. I mean, Bruce Arians basement was pretty sweet. Bruce Arians whole house. Yeah. It was a football house. Just want to go live there. Bruce Arians wearing, uh, a low, a shirt with a logo where he was wearing the exact same
Starting point is 00:20:15 thing in real life. Yeah. Bruce Arians doing the- The most power move ever. Doing the surprise chipmunk face. Yes. To us. Like in real life.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Yes. We got a live replay of the GIF. Bruce Arians offering us a beer like before we even stepped in his house. Yeah. That was also cool. Yeah. We just rolled the window down. He just threw beer bottles at us.
Starting point is 00:20:33 Tom Kreen coming on Tuesday. We still have a little bit week shooting shots with Tom Kreen and him just basically- Tom Kreen's the nicest human being alive and even he was roasting our jump shots. I mean, let's be honest, they weren't pretty. They weren't pretty. We worked hard though. And he likes that about us. Yes.
Starting point is 00:20:50 That we don't give up. I think we did a video at the, at the end of that practice and I probably shot 40 shots until I made one. Yeah. But I didn't quit. No, you did not quit. Coach Kreen. That's great.
Starting point is 00:21:01 That's awesome. That's great. Yeah. I mean, it's just like SEC coaches in general, if you know an SEC coach, we will interview them. Yes. Obviously, Coach O was like the white whale. Not the guy at Vanderbilt.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Not him. Yeah. I mean, that doesn't really count. Yeah. Whatever the hell that guy's name is. I can't remember. He wears the vest. He like owns a railroad.
Starting point is 00:21:20 We don't really care. I just can't, I can't trust a guy who like, he thought, he actually thought they were going to beat Bama this year. And then they, and then they lost like 56 to nothing. Yeah. Can I throw in a quick plug real quick? Yeah. So, you know, SEC coaches, I was reminded that actually one of my college professors
Starting point is 00:21:35 wrote an awesome book about SEC coaches. It's called Love's Winning Plays. And it's actually really good. Go check it out. Love's Winning Plays? Love's Winning Plays. Yes. Love's Winning Plays.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Is there a Wikipedia page for it? By Inman Majors. I'm not reading that. I read the book two years ago. You don't have to read it, but somebody out there, oh, you know what it is. Someone read it and tell me what it's about. Don't read it. It's a Good Father's Day gift.
Starting point is 00:21:55 Okay. So, if your dad likes SEC football. Hardcover. Don't. Don't do the paperback for Father's Day. You've got to go to the hardcover. One year my dad, like actually was mad because we just kept on giving him sports books. He's like, I have other interests.
Starting point is 00:22:08 No, you don't. No, you don't. Get out of here. You don't want to read this book about Jackie Robinson. Come on. Get out of here. I'll get you a book about napping next time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:18 Come on. All right. Let's see. Let's get to our interview with Doug Morone. Really good interview. Really fun guy. I feel like he came out of his shell for us. Yes.
Starting point is 00:22:28 It was surprising because if you see interviews like in the normal media with Doug Morone, he can seem like a little standoffish with the press sometimes. He was awesome. Yes. Like he's a football guy. He's like a big giant football teddy bear where you pull a string on him and he'll just start talking for hours about like anything. He got into like philosophy.
Starting point is 00:22:48 Yes. He's an interesting dude. Massive human being. Yes. Very big. Yes. His legs were. His knee scar is bigger than, I mean it's bigger than our legs.
Starting point is 00:22:56 I just looked at that knee scar and I was like, I wanted to say fellas, but the only fella that could satisfy that knee scar would be Third Light Greg. Yeah. That's pretty much it. All right. Let's do it. Let's, before we do that, shout out to our good sponsor, great sponsor, Bud Light. Bud Light, Lime and Orange are out now brewed with real orange and lime peels.
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Starting point is 00:24:52 Get a great workout at home anytime you want. Go to onepeloton.com, use the code PMT and get started today. All right, here he is, Jacksonville Jaguars head coach Doug Morone. All right, we now welcome on coach Doug Morone. We are sitting in the Jaguars stadium. Thank you for having us. It is grit week so we start every grit week interview with the same question. How do you define grit?
Starting point is 00:25:24 For me it's very simple and we talk to our players about it all the time. It's about being relentless, we talk about intensity, we talk about maniacal work habits and going about it, determination, teamwork, all those things, toughness, hardness about ourselves. Those are the things that we describe grit to with our players. I was just going to say, how do you know if you're out there looking at a rookie or a free agent that might be coming in, how do you identify grit or is that something you can build in a rookie?
Starting point is 00:25:55 You say, okay, he's got the tools, we'll get him in and I'm just going to smack him around for a while. I like that smack around for a while. But anyway, I think you can tell from the film when you watch them in college just how they play, are they guys that finish, are they playing to the echo of the whistle that we'll use that. But I think a lot of it for me is really what I hear, meaning when the practice starts and the pads are on, I can hear grit without actually having to see it.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Sometimes during the nine on seven drills when we're getting in there and the real physicality of this game, goal line or shirt yardage, there'll be a time which I can't do during the season, but I'll just close my eyes and listen and say, okay, was that a good play for grit? Was that a good toughness play? No matter what the results are, when we're practicing against each other, I can say, hey, listen, that's how we want it to look. That's how we want it to sound.
Starting point is 00:26:47 I love it. I think you can hear it. That's fantastic. I love it. It's like dogs can hear certain frequencies and whistles. Yeah. You can actually hear grit. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:26:55 That's cool. So when you came to Jacksonville, I read a story about how the culture changed and took out the ping pong tables, took out all the video games and had the toughest training camp I think a lot of the guys had ever had. Was that in mind of, you know, I'm going to, I'm going to instill grit in this team and make them tougher through just basically attrition? Well, there's, I don't know if it's a matter of, hey, who can stay, you know, whoever could stay up with this pace, you know, is going to make it like when you talk about attrition.
Starting point is 00:27:25 It wasn't that we were trying to weed people out. I always say that, you know, people may tap out, you know, because it might be too tough for them. But at the same time, you know, my thought process is this is the way I was brought up in a sport. You know, this is the way we had a practice and it's very difficult. A couple of things I just want to mention is one is we wanted to create adversity. Adversity is going to hit during the season.
Starting point is 00:27:52 So how can you create adversity in a training camp where the team is, you know, for lack of a better term, kind of bitching and moaning, you know, and what I look to do is I look to work them as hard as I possibly can, get them into that, that phase where they have to push themselves, where their body might be telling their mind, no, you know what I'm saying? And the mind is just taking over saying, hey, we're going to push through this. And what I found personally is that people talk about, you know, chemistry or, you know, people try to do things to manifest this type of team chemistry.
Starting point is 00:28:26 And a lot of people think that's, hey, why don't you take your team and go to a movie? Why don't you take your team and go bowling? Why don't you take your team and play softball? To me, that's not, you know, really building the chemistry. The chemistry comes in my mind is when, you know, you're working so hard and I don't think I can take another rep. I don't think I can run this sprint, you know, and I can remember being a player and not that I was always the best conditioned player, obviously by the way I look, but I remember
Starting point is 00:28:50 we'd be running sprints after practice and I'd be like, there's no way I can run one more. There's no way I'm going to drop. I remember getting down and looking to the left and right of me and those guys saying, come on, let's go, you can do it. And then coming in the locker room going, you know, this coach, jeez, he's crazy. You know, I, you know, this is, this is bullshit. I can't believe what you're doing.
Starting point is 00:29:08 You know, and then someone's saying, hey, listen, let's do this together and rely on each other. And I think that builds a type of chemistry in a football team. Also when you're out of breath from being, from just exercising too much, you can't complain. So it's nice. That's always nice as a coach to not hear that whining. Well, the one thing, the other thing is, is they're so focused on being pissed off at me, they can't be pissed off at each other.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Yeah. Yeah. Right. I'm, you know, and, and it's not, I just want, you know, I've always believed in coaching. I've always defined it as, you know, being able to take players where they can't take themselves or take a team where a team can't take themselves. And to me, that's the definition of coaching. You're kidnapping a team.
Starting point is 00:29:46 Yeah. I like it. By the way, uh, have you been skipping leg day? What's that? No, no, no. Honestly, your legs are like the size of my waist. I'm not even joking. I'm not, that's not hyperbole.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Your knee scar is, is bigger than my entire leg. My butt's actually bigger than my leg. Yeah. You got that. It's something I'm working on, which I know you've lost a lot of weight. Yeah. But I'm trying to get my booty up. Well, after this, I hope that you can give me some tips, you know, because I, I, I need
Starting point is 00:30:10 it. I do love food. Yeah. I love food as well. We'll get you on ketosis. Well, I mean, we, it totally works. It's a perfect time to bring up. You love food, but you love terrible food because you're a big baloney guy.
Starting point is 00:30:19 I love baloney. Why is it terrible? Who labeled it terrible? Now, now when you say, who labeled it terrible, that's what I want to know. When you say you love baloney, you are underselling this because you said that you have, you think that you have eaten more baloney in the entire world than anyone else. I really believe that, at least at my age, I can say that for sure. So what, like what, I mean, baloney's gross.
Starting point is 00:30:40 It's good every now and then, but for, for a consistent, like you'll go to, Ted, do I have to continue with this interview? He's, he is attacked. I feel like I'm being attacked. Right. Got you. You got to help me now. No, I mean, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:53 I agree that it's a perfect football guy meal because there's no food for you now and then. Yeah. No, no food for you. But it's your go-to. You know what? It's my go-to. It's your go-to. Whenever I want to feel good, are you baloney?
Starting point is 00:31:06 That's so weird. That's so weird. Why is it so weird? I mean, I agree that I love the idea of a football guy just concentrating on everything else so much that he doesn't have the time to worry about a fancy meal. Just like put a baloney sandwich with some mustard on my plate, but to say that it's like, it's a delicious treat. You actually think it's delicious?
Starting point is 00:31:24 Let me tell you. Here's what happens. Do you put mustard on it? In the morning, in the morning, I can go out, throw some baloney, just to eat it plain. I do the roll-up principle where you roll it up and I can even roll things inside it. I can roll American cheese inside it and when I'm on my, you know, the carb kick, not having carbs, I can do that and stay away from the bread. Yep.
Starting point is 00:31:42 Okay. Or I can put the bread on it. Or like my big thing is one thing about baloney, you can make it last longer than its real value on the, like the refrigerator value. Yeah. When it gets spoiled. Well, I don't know about spoiled because I think spoiled is a little bit different for some people.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Yeah. So for me, it's this film that gets on it and once I see the film starting to get on it, which doesn't necessarily happen because they eat so much of it, I fry it. Yep. You see what I'm saying? And once I fry it, I kill all that bacteria and I still got a great meal. Breakfast, lunch, dinner and snack. You are so fit to survive like a nuclear holocaust.
Starting point is 00:32:19 You can just eat baloney for the rest of your life. If someone said, what's the one food you're bringing in that bunker? Simple. Baloney. Because it can turn into so many other meals. I like the idea of rolling up like another food inside baloney. Absolutely. That's perfect.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Like a little baloney cannoli. Yeah. Exactly. And I put, I can, I do different things. Like I am a spicy mustard guy first. Yep. But sometimes I want to get crazy and put it like a little miracle whip or a little mayonnaise. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:32:48 It's a holiday. Yeah. I'm going to get it up a little bit. Do you do, do you do a baloney win or loss? Or is it a tree? No on a loss. I feel like that's like, you know how like you have that motivation and I know some people going to be like, that's ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:33:02 But I do have this motivation saying, hey, listen, I'm going to win this game, we're going to beat this game and I'm going to go home and I'm just going to pig out on this baloney. You're like Bugs Bunny with the carrot just like, you know, in the stick right in front of it. Exactly. Yeah. If you held the piece of baloney in front of me, I bet you I'd lose a lot of weight. You just start running.
Starting point is 00:33:18 I just keep running. Exactly. Well, I'm happy we talked about baloney because it's, but what I understand is why do people look down on? I don't get it. I don't think it's a look down. I think it's, baloney is fine every now and then. It's not your number one go to like it's not my number.
Starting point is 00:33:32 If I said I need a sandwich, baloney isn't the first thing that comes to my mind. So what's the difference between baloney and hot dogs? Well, I love hot dogs. You see? Well, and you don't like baloney. I like baloney. I just don't, I don't eat baloney like I'm not like, man, I'm really craving some baloney. But do you eat hot dogs?
Starting point is 00:33:48 Yeah. You roll it up. I guess. I guess you stuff me on that one. Yeah, I guess. Put it in there and you can make the same way. And I bet you couldn't tell the difference. A hot dog is just artisanal baloney.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Yeah. I think there's more. Yeah. I think there's more pigs asshole in a hot dog. All right. Listen, I know you guys want to talk football, but I'm just curious now because he's from Chicago and I want to know this. Do you like the Charborough hot dogs or you like it in the dirty water?
Starting point is 00:34:09 I like the char. I like the char. I mean, I like all of them. I, I, I was in the hot dog eating competition in July 4th, Nathan, Nathan's hot dog. I could, I'm telling you, I could win that one. I've won a ribs eating contest when I was a player in Miami. It's so hard. How many did you eat?
Starting point is 00:34:23 Well, I don't know. Those guys are good. I had like 54 baby back ribs and I forget the amount of time it was, but they count them too. So I mean, it's not one of those things. And then I had to work on the technique of really taking it off. And this, this summer I'm, I'm so pumped up, like people get pumped up to, to meet people. So I'm doing a veteran's benefit up in Syracuse, New York for this Clear Paths for Veterans
Starting point is 00:34:45 and Adam Richmond there. Oh man versus food. Yes. Yes. I'm ready. Now they don't have a competition between us, but I'm dying to talk to them. I can, I can do the food stuff. I just can't do the spicy stuff.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Yeah. Do some like beef on wek or something. Oh crush that. You know what? Buffalo. Yeah. Yeah. That's just bring like a pound of bologna, two pounds of bologna, just hand him a pound
Starting point is 00:35:05 and be like, go. Yeah. And he'll do it. Yeah. I mean, he's got it. No, no, no, no one can beat. No one can beat me in the bologna. Maybe that's a charity event would be how much bologna.
Starting point is 00:35:15 And I'll go against him man versus food on bologna. You challenge him, you just bring a glove and you slap him in the face and it's a duel he has to accept. Yeah. I like this idea. We'll do a telephone. We'll do a telephone. Like a 24 hour telephone.
Starting point is 00:35:25 It's June 16th. It sits there and eats. It's a live cam of you eating bologna. June 16th up in Syracuse. Yep. All right. So yeah. So Syracuse is a good, good way to get back to football.
Starting point is 00:35:34 So you, you basically, I mean, you made Syracuse, which is not a football school, into successful football program and you did it with Buffalo and you've done it with Jacksonville. How do you come into a place like that where the culture might not be a winning culture and change that? Well, I think my philosophy has always been with, with the coaching aspect is to develop the person first before you develop the player. I don't think that you can tell someone, Hey, you need to do this. You need to do this.
Starting point is 00:36:01 And if, if they don't think you care about them, I think it's very difficult for them to do it. They'll do it maybe because they're told, but I think there's a bigger take when you work with players and say, listen, this is how I want to do things. This is why, when I was growing up, I always wanted to know the why I was very fortunate to have really good little league coaches growing up. And then high school football coaches, college coaches, they always, you know, not necessarily all the time told us to why, but I was that guy that pain in the butt.
Starting point is 00:36:28 You were Josh Rosen. I was the guy in the room and be like, I don't get coach. I don't, I don't get this. Yeah. Why, why are we doing this? Yeah. And that's what I try to do with our players. I want to know them.
Starting point is 00:36:38 I want to be able to help them grow in any way I possibly can off the football field, whether it's what they do in the community, what they're doing in their family stuff. I want to be there to support them, to help them become better, better fathers, better men, you know, better husbands, you know, things of that nature, because I do feel that is a responsibility for us as coaches, not just the win and losing. Yes. Is that what we're judged on? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:37:05 I get that part of it. But if that's all I'm judged on when I leave this game, I would like to know that, hey, listen, I've done some value or instilled some value in some people that, you know, have helped them along the way. I want to talk real quick about some of your coaching philosophy in terms of on the field stuff. At one point, you said that you would like to run the ball every single play if you could. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:27 Do you still feel that way now that you have an elite quarterback? Yeah. Well, here's what happens. That's quarterback. So someone says, you know, how many times would you like to run the footballing game? In my mind, I've never seen a team lose a game of football if they ran the ball every single time. I haven't seen that either.
Starting point is 00:37:39 So that was so actually I have no army PFT played Madden and he ran a full back dive every single play and he lost by like 40 points. Yeah. But it was mad. It was mad. Yeah. You can see the physical grid wearing somebody down. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:37:55 The video game doesn't account for demoralizing. Yeah. By constant full back dives. Exactly. And I like it. I like the story. He did that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:04 And when he asked that question, that's how he responded and then all of a sudden it gets turned around. Well, he doesn't trust the quarterback. No, that's not it. I just know that if we can, if we can be successful running the football and I deem success as the fans know we're running it, the opposing team knows we're running it, we're running this ball and we're going to get positive yardage, you know, and it breaks down efficiency. You know, being able to have that ability because it will open up things to help our
Starting point is 00:38:29 quarterback play well. Yeah. I mean, I liked it. The hat on hat football is kind of getting lost in the NFL. Do you ever feel pressure with that? Because, you know, the rules have changed. The game is being aired out more. It feels like there's a lot more long shots.
Starting point is 00:38:44 But what you said, guys who run the ball, you still have success. Yeah. I think for me, yes, that's what I, that's how I grew up. That's what I believe in. So it's very simple to instill qualities in your football team or get a football team to believe in it. Because when you stand up there, those players know whether I'm BSing them or not. And a lot of times I think what's happened in this game and I think the way the computer
Starting point is 00:39:10 is and the young kids nowadays or people coming up is that we're going, we're pushing forward the schematics of the game and they are important, but we're kind of, we're kind of losing touch of, you know, the basics, the foundation of this game, which, which I believe in because the greatest love I have is not NCAA or the emblem that I wear or NFL or things of that nature. My greatest love outside of my family is the sport of football and everything that it's taught me and my friends that are around me. And that's, that's what I truly believe.
Starting point is 00:39:47 That was a great football guy. That was a really good fight. I just love the sport of football. I have a question for you about your time in Buffalo that everyone wants to know. How cool is Kyle Orton? Oh, I love him. Yeah, I do too. You talk about, you know, straight, a guy that's been, when I say straight, you ask him a question,
Starting point is 00:40:08 boom, it's a straight answer. It is no fluff or, you know, coach, you know, with all due respect or, hey, by the way, I got, I got a great Kyle Orton story. Let's go. You guys ready? Yes. Okay. So we're playing, we're playing Detroit in Detroit.
Starting point is 00:40:25 All right. And, and he's bringing us, you know, on, on, on this winning drive. And we wanted to winning, we wanted to running a play and, and the clock stops. We have no timeouts. It's like a, you know, it's going to be like a 52 or 54 yard field goal. Okay. And, and I'm like, shit, I got to get six, five more yards. So, you know, I got to get this.
Starting point is 00:40:47 So, you know, he comes over the sideline. He's looking at me like, okay, let's, let's just go kick this ball and then this game. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, here's what we got to do. You've got to figure out a way to get this ball of silent. Here's the play we're going to, we're going to go, Hey, just turn, throw it. If he's, you know, if he's open, let's get them, get the four, five, six yards and let's go and it'll help us. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:06 So he's like, you know, he gives me that face. Your face, I know it. I picture in my mind the Kyle Orton face, like, you're an idiot. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? He's at it. You know, when he looks at you, you know, he's thinking, you know, coach, you're an idiot right here.
Starting point is 00:41:19 So they line up, they protect the sidelines. He took the ball. He threw it and he threw it like right at me on a silent over my head and he just walked over. He goes, I guess we're going to kick it. You know what I'm saying? Then he runs on the field. We kicked the winning field goal and win the game.
Starting point is 00:41:32 Dan Carpenter kicks it. And I just remember myself, I just think it was one of those moments that a lot of people on the outside don't say, you know, say, and he's like, I knew when he went back in that huddle and we told him what we want to do, I'm like, he's not going to do this shit. He's not doing this stuff. And he just, he's like, God, guess we're kicking the field and I laughed my, we laughed our butts off and we won the game. But the one thing I've always appreciated with him is that, you know, he has seen so
Starting point is 00:41:57 much and been through so much that, you know, I always think back of a player like Kyle of, you know, I wish I would have had him when he was younger and where he would have would have been, you know, and there's a lot of things as far as personality wise that I see from Kyle, not all of it because he's his own man that I see him Blake, you know, that toughness that, you know, he listened, this is the way I want it done. You know, I see him coming around to that now being in the second year of the offense when, you know, Kyle really came in and is like, look, I'm just going to tell, and this is what I love about when quarterbacks get to this stage, I think it's good.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Kyle would say, look, I'm just going to tell you, when you run that route like that, I'm not even looking at you. I'm never going to throw you the football. So the receiver is like, all receivers want the ball, right? So he's like, well, how do you want me to run the route? Well, if you run it like this and you get open, hey, you're the first read. I'm going to throw you the football. But I used to love the way he'd be like, hey, listen, the minute you did that, I'm off
Starting point is 00:42:47 you. Don't worry about it. And he did not. He had a great sense and a great leadership skill where he wasn't worried. And it might have been the time in his career. He really wasn't worried about what a lot of people thought of him. And I thought that made him an even better leader at that time. Here's a good question. Do you think that you could physically dominate every other NFL coach?
Starting point is 00:43:07 Ooh, no, no, no, there's a couple of guys that you got to watch the guys that don't talk too much, a smaller, smaller, shorter guys. I've learned this, you know, I'm one of those guys that I'm an introvert. I think that's the, that's the last resort. I think unless something happens to my, my family or, you know, something to that nature, that's, that's something that you don't want to get involved with because they, it escalates too much. Mike Frable.
Starting point is 00:43:29 Yeah, Mike Frable is probably the toughest. I was going, I was racking my brain there. Yeah, Ron Rivera is a tough son. Ron Rivera is a good one. Yeah, that's a good one. I mean, there, there, to be a coach in this profession, you have to have a toughness about you, you know, in some way or another. It might not be from, you know, maybe the physical form that people can actually
Starting point is 00:43:48 see and do, but mentally, you know, you're, you're, you're going to have to be. Yeah. I like how you brought up that you guys are running a lot of one-on-one drills down here, like even if it's just defensive backs against receivers. In training camp. In training camp. Not OTAs. Not OTAs.
Starting point is 00:44:01 Yes. Yeah. In training camp. Sorry. We keep everything on film. So if you need it, we'll send it out. Yeah. We'll send it out.
Starting point is 00:44:06 And then Roger Godot will burn the tapes later after you get caught. Um, so you guys were called Saxonville last year, right? Yeah. You had a lot of good talent in defensive line, but you also had some really good defensive backs. Yeah. A.J. Buya.
Starting point is 00:44:16 A.J. Buya. Yeah. We asked him this, should it be called defensive backs inville because a lot of those sacks were coverage sacks? Well, I'll tell you what, if you ask, this one was great about this team. So I'm the constant mediator of, of, of the back end and the front end, you know, and the linebacker, the kind of in the middle of this thing, right?
Starting point is 00:44:33 So, you know, when, when, um, when they don't get sacks, they'll turn around, look to the DB's going, Hey, listen, you know, when the quarterback gets rid of the ball fast, Hey, you got to cover those guys. And the DB's like, Hey, you got to get to the quarterback. So it's this constant competition, you know, saying who it is. So I have to make sure when I go up there, I say, all right, we have four sacks and I'll, I'll, I'll, you know, obviously tell them exactly what I feel. I'll say, Hey, two of them with sacks, good job beating those guys and two of them
Starting point is 00:44:57 will cover sacks. So these sacks go to the, you know, the DB. So there's a constant competitiveness, which I enjoy because the one thing I don't want to do as a coach is to, to be that guy that takes the competitiveness out of it, whatever it may be, because we're constantly fighting to get competitive situations and everything that we do. You see a team like the Seahawks who has, who they've had a ton of success. And I feel like they fought every single game on the sidelines, you know,
Starting point is 00:45:23 their defense, there'll be that stuff. You, you hope that the communication and you get through that in the practices. And I think we've done a good job at it as coaches and knowing that. Hey, listen, let's not waste our energy on that. Let's get it. Let's keep our energy on the field. Um, how did you meet Tom Coughlin the first time? Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:45:40 So, so what happens is I get done playing and I want to get into coaching. I make a decision. I want to get into coaching. So, you know, I was looking for the first way to get in back in, you know, the early nineties was to, um, you know, try to get a graduate assistance position. So I start looking and I start thinking, well, I wasn't going to be able to get one at Syracuse because I wasn't, you know, that, you know, I wish I
Starting point is 00:46:04 would have done better things as a player. Sometimes I was a pain in the ass. So I understood why I wasn't going to get that one. But then I went to, uh, I tried to get a job because Coughlin, thinking the Syracuse connection would be so strong that it would get it. So I'm thinking to myself, I want to do something different. You know how you want to do something different to kind of get your name out there.
Starting point is 00:46:23 So I'm like, I'm going to, I'm going to track this guy down now. I'm going to get my, my Bronx skills out, you know what I'm saying? And go and do this thing. So I wind up finding out the hotel that's staying at a bowl game. I think it was the Hall of Fame game. I go down there and I'm like, all right, I'm going to get this thing. When he's done with meetings and everything I'm going to get on the house phone, could you connect me to Coach Coughlin's room, please?
Starting point is 00:46:40 You know, please, you know, it's, it's important, you know, so right away. Boom, rings. Hello, uh, Coach Coughlin, this is Doug Moran. I want to probably send you stuff in. I don't have time right now. First, first now I'm like, you know, I'm like, okay, all right, fine. So that disappears. So then the next couple of years I'm working, I get a job with, with the New
Starting point is 00:47:00 York Jets. So at the, uh, at the combine, the jet, uh, the jet room in the hotel where they do the interviews is right next to the giant room. So Herm Edwards, I'd worked for Herm Edwards and Terry Bradway with the GM. Uh, we get there early and that's coaching to Coach Coughlin. They're talking with him outside the room. So I kind of go out there and I'm like, you know, now I'm like, all right, I'm going to, I'm going to finally get a chance to meet him.
Starting point is 00:47:23 Right. So he's talking to Herm and Terry and I kind of work my way into this conversation. I'm like, Coach Coughlin, Doug Moran, Syracuse grad. He's like, yep, how you doing? He continues with Herman and, uh, and Terry Bradway. So now I'm like, that's something I'm going to get to this guy. I don't care what it takes or how it does. So fast forward, I go to Syracuse University.
Starting point is 00:47:42 Floyd Little is one of the associate or assistant athletic directors for the department. So he's like, Hey, you ever talked to Coach Coughlin? I'm like, you know what, Floyd, I've tried. I don't think the guy likes me. You know, he's like, Oh BS, he'll do whatever he can for you. He goes, I'll give him a call. I said, Oh, it'd be great. I'd love to meet with him.
Starting point is 00:47:58 So for my first year at Syracuse, I would go down to the Giants. I would meet with Coach. We'd talk about philosophy, talk about things. And every year I went down there. And then when I went to the Buffalo Bills, if I had an issue that would come up of, of how maybe, Hey, how would you handle this? Or can you help me? You know, I would call coach.
Starting point is 00:48:15 So we built a relationship, which when they put us together here, not many people knew. We were already on the same page from a philosophy standpoint. So for us, it was like, let's go. I was excited, you know, when Shod had called me to offer the job, you know, he called me on that day, said, Listen, I want to, I want to offer you this job. But before you make a decision, I want to tell you how I structured this. You know, I'm bringing in a coach Tom Coughlin. He's going to be the executive.
Starting point is 00:48:40 I, I was like, Holy shit. That's, you know, and I'm like, Oh my God, did I just lose the job? Because I cursed, you know, I was so excited, you know, he's probably expecting you to go the other way and push back and be like, Hey, maybe I can have some more power, but that was like something that was actually selling point for you. Well, it was genuine to me. I don't think I was going to, no, I was going to take the top no matter what, you know, but it was, um, and I just thought, what a great opportunity because I think
Starting point is 00:49:07 as a head coach, you get up, you get in there and, and, and again, maybe we're not supposed to say this, but you know, there's things like, Hey, I think I want to do this. I want to do that. Well, I have a guy that has all this experience and he say, you know what, Doug? Hey, I tried this back then. It didn't work or, Hey, listen, that's a great thought. Let's go ahead and try it.
Starting point is 00:49:22 So I have someone to bounce things off of and a lot of people say, well, what is it like? How do you relate it? And I say, well, I related to how football was in the beginning. When you look at the college, the college game early on, okay, the, the, the, the old, the coach, once he got to a certain level retired and became the AD and he picked someone that had the same philosophy. So that person can rely on him to help him.
Starting point is 00:49:45 Yeah. You know, so for me, when people say, Hey, does coach help you every single day he does, you know, I try to get as I, you know, and he, he's, he's a guarded individual, you know, what, as far as releasing information. So I'm just like a sponge and I'm trying to draw it out of them all the time. I'm like, Hey, don't be hiding any of those secrets. Now let's go. Are you going to cough at the time?
Starting point is 00:50:02 Yeah. Everybody is. Have you ever broken it? Never. No, I'm a rules guy. No, I'm a rules guy too. You sure? I like having rules.
Starting point is 00:50:10 If we shot set Tom Coughlin down right now, but like, no, never been even 10 minutes early, which is five minutes late. If you guys get coach Coughlin to do the show, it might be one of the most watched shows I've ever had. I doubt that he would ever do the show. I mean, I would love to have him on. I, I can't, can we get him in the pool? I cannot speak for him.
Starting point is 00:50:29 I cannot speak for him. So you're a big Yankees fan. Um, probably an understatement. Okay. Uh, you want to, you want to tell me if a couple of guys have earned their pinch stripes? Meaning what? You, I mean, you know, either earn your pinch stripes or not.
Starting point is 00:50:46 You're true Yankee. Right. But I don't want, what guy is it? Oh, you're good. You know, now you, I mean, it's the hardest question for all Yankee fans. Has Arod earned his pinch stripes? He won a world series. I think, I think when I, when I think of the Yankees and earning
Starting point is 00:51:01 pinstripes, I think of people that have done it the Yankee way. And I think that people that have won, make sure they don't have any facial hair world series. You know, like I grew up, my grandfather worked there for over 25 years. He was an usher back then when they take your ticket, wipe your seat, you know, you give him a dollar and, uh, he was a taxi cab driver. So basically my mom and, uh, you know, grew up in Yankee stadium. So I was, I always say I was born a Yankee fan.
Starting point is 00:51:26 Yes. So you didn't answer the question though, because that's a very, yes. He won a world series. So he's got a striped for the world series. All right. What about a world series? You get your strike like Reggie Jackson, he gets a strike.
Starting point is 00:51:35 What about Breckarder? He hasn't, has he won a, was Breckarder on that team? Did you, did you, did you see what, see, I made sure when you said what defines the pinstripe, it's doing it the Yankee way or winning a world series. Which is the Yankee's way. So Breckarder is in. Totally. John Carlos Stanton.
Starting point is 00:51:53 It's pretty early. It's pretty early. I don't think he's got his pinstripe. He strikes out a lot. He's got, what about Aaron Judge? Yes. Because you won the home run derby. I think you're a little lax on your pinstripe.
Starting point is 00:52:03 Well, you know what, I, I had met him a couple of weeks ago. Oh, you're biased. You know, so, you know, it's that human nature, you know, when you meet someone and, and they're very likable and they don't have to meet you. They don't have to be nice to you. You know, and, and they come across as just genuine and, and really nice. And, yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:52:21 So Aaron, Aaron Judge pinstripes. Yeah. But I, you know, I grew up in that seventies, you know, really knowing it with, you know, like I always say, like, you know, people remember things. I remember, you know, growing up how awful it was the night, you know, when they're, when we found out that they're a months in past, you know, you know, how brutal that was, just all those things. Just kind of living and dying, you know, saying, you know, with the team and,
Starting point is 00:52:44 and grew up really a baseball fan before, before football. What football, what football team did you grow up for? This is crazy. Now you're ready for this story. Hang on. Yeah. Okay. Good.
Starting point is 00:52:53 All right. So now what happened was my parents, they went out to buy a brand new car. So we're, it's, I shouldn't say it was brand new because it's 1970, a Monday night. They bought a 1969 green Impala. Sweet. Sweet. Cherry. AM radio, roll up windows.
Starting point is 00:53:12 I'm talking about four door. It was sweet, right? So I was allowed to stay up. So I stood up to wait for my parents to bring this, this car home with my grandmother and there was a football game on with a Monday night football game. And it was the Bears versus Detroit Lions. So I'm born in the end of July. So my zodiac sign was Leo.
Starting point is 00:53:33 I'd learned that at a young age. So when they came on the screen and it was the sea and the lion, I became, you know, infactuated with this lion. Yep. So I became a Detroit lion fan and I was the only Detroit lion fan in the Bronx. I can promise you that. You know what, and I, and I went through some tough time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:49 Yeah. That's what you're doing right there, right there. The field gold, all that stuff. The Yankee fan and a lion fan. I feel like that, that's a ying and the yang right there. I went through some tough. Yeah. Cause everyone was a giant.
Starting point is 00:53:59 Well, not really, there was a lot of giant fans, but they were older. So the people my age, they liked the cowboys. They liked the Viking and they liked all that stuff. So on Thanksgiving, your family was having like a big Italian Thanksgiving. I would imagine. You're like, wait a second. I got to watch my lines play TV in one of the doorways. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:54:16 It was always on strategically placed at the dinner table to have a good line of sight right to that TV. So, so the only time that I really took my office was when we said our prayer. Yeah. Well, I'm not a big turkey guy. You know, we didn't do baloney. Yeah, no, but you know, yeah, lasagna. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:33 I love Italian Thanksgiving now. My grandmother made the best stuffed artichokes God bless it. She's passed, but she made the best stuffed artichokes. Um, all right. We have this special question for the entire grit week. It's the Lisa question. You put in grit week promo code grit week, you had $160 off the mattress. So Lisa's our great mattress company.
Starting point is 00:54:54 The question is, do you dream about football? Absolutely. Like plays, specific plays or games or is it games in the future? I visualize, I, I'm a big visual guy. So I try to, you know, every time we're going through something and I'm watching a play on visual and how's that play going to turn out on Sunday. The night before the game, I'm actually going through the game in my mind. And, you know, I wish that it would occur, you know, the results would occur
Starting point is 00:55:25 like I dreamed and would be in great shape. You know what I'm saying? But I have this positive visualization that I go through and it's not, it's, it's just something that, that I do. It's not a big term to it. No one's ever taught me that or anything like that because one of the things when I was younger, I learned that I was an only child. So a lot of times I would have to, you know, play sports.
Starting point is 00:55:45 I didn't have everyone to play sports with. So when I was a little kid, I used to throw the tennis ball off the stoop, you know, and, and pick up the grounder and throw it against it and, and rotate and rotate it. And maybe I just didn't have a lot of friends. Yeah. I'm just thinking about it now, but anyway, maybe not, maybe people liked me back then.
Starting point is 00:56:05 Maybe that's why I was doing that at all. In fairness, you lived in a city with like 10 million people. Yeah. It's not a big thing. Exactly. I'm thinking maybe I didn't have a lot of friends, but when I would do it, I'd say, okay, on my third basis too, I would always put myself in a position, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:56:17 And do that. So I would be, you know, so when the time came and I was on the field and I was playing baseball, I'd say, okay, let's do it. I'd say, hit the ball to me. I never wanted to be that guy that said, Oh gosh, I hope they don't hit the ball to me. I always wanted to be that person to make that play, make that free throw, make that block when I was a player.
Starting point is 00:56:34 So I always tried to visualize those things. And as a kid, that just kept going on until what I'm doing. I love football. I love it. I dream about my a lot. Yeah. Um, here's a really good question. I know I asked a good one earlier, but this is really good.
Starting point is 00:56:45 I think they're all good so far. Thank you. This one's great. Actually, uh, was Miles Jack down? No. Yeah, I agree. I agree. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:54 That's probably fair. Yeah. You guys should have been in the Super Bowl. Did you ever, I cried, I cried when you guys lost. I saw Blake cry. And then, you know how when you see somebody yawn and then you yawn, I saw Blake crying after the game and then I cried. Although he, he, he didn't actually cry.
Starting point is 00:57:07 He didn't cry. There's water in his face by accident. I still cried. Did you at any point in the AFC championship game be like, this could actually happen here. Do you let yourself get those moments? Is it when you're coaching a game or is it just? No, I, um, I was, I was, you know, I want those things like, you know,
Starting point is 00:57:25 I'll go home and I got, I got the greatest critics of my own home. You know what I'm saying? My three children, my wife, you know, so we go up there and play Pittsburgh, you know, the first time and I had never won in Heinz Field ever. I haven't been even college. I haven't won in Heinz Field when we used to play pit. So I'm like, you know, and I lost a big, big, big playoff game when I was with the Jets there, you know, in the second round, we missed two field goals and we
Starting point is 00:57:48 wanted to lose in a game. So I'm like, you know what? This is the time, you know, so I'm in there and I've got it. I'm very superstitious. So I got everything I got, you know, prayer cards. I have all this stuff all week long, you know what I'm saying? I'm saying all of a sudden, like, look, this is the time we have to, you know, I'm thinking something more than just our players going on the field.
Starting point is 00:58:07 Right. You know, so we go out there and we win the game and, you know, and then some things, hey, listen, we might have caught them. They might not have been expecting it this and that. So now we're getting ready to go play in the second time. I'm thinking to myself, okay, you know, I know, I know this team we're playing as a heck of a football team. They have a ton of pride.
Starting point is 00:58:21 They're excellent football players. They're great coaches. I'm thinking, hey, how many people have gone up there and done this thing twice? You know, and I remember talking to, you know, to the players and I'm like, hey, we've got to go and the players looking at me like, coach, we beat them. We're good. You know, I'm thinking, oh my God, you know, these guys don't really know, you know, and it's the same thing when we got into it.
Starting point is 00:58:39 Now we win and we go on to the next one. It's like, you know, don't think that the biggest thing that you can, the biggest fault you can have is to think, hey, listen, this is going to be every year. We're going to be back here. Right. That's the number one mistake you can make. So I looked at it as an opportunity, you know, to be able to get to, you know, the next game, which is a Super Bowl, and I looked at it as an opportunity that I
Starting point is 00:58:59 personally, I take responsibility for let slip through our, slip through our hands. Well, I mean, it was a, listen, you guys have built something special and I feel like this year, you know, most teams, they have to go through that kind of adversity, go through the trials of playoffs to then get to the top of the mountain. Yeah. Why is it like that? Why can't you just show up and just go and be like, man, what, you know, because you learn, you learn more from failing at something than you do from
Starting point is 00:59:22 succeeding. Yeah. You know, they tell you it takes like more muscles to frown than it does to smile. So if you're in high, if you're really unhappy for a long time, you get jacked up. Yeah. Are you guys like working to become coaches or something like what all these
Starting point is 00:59:32 saying? No, we're just, we're just, you're feeling it. You're feeling it, you're feeling it, we've hung out with enough football guys. Exactly. Well, if we need to, we're like, I kind of like the gold dust shop you're asking all the time. That'd be pretty cool. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:59:45 We're, we're in case of emergency football, right? All right. So my last question, uh, in 2011, you were named America's friendly as college football. I know. And people look at me, I know what happened there. I used to try to bring it up all the time. Like this guy doesn't smile.
Starting point is 00:59:58 This guy's, this guy's, this guy's, this guy, I'm like, wait a minute now. We got to go back to the CSPN. What in the world? I know they had it. Exactly. Is that actually the one you don't want to win though, as a football guy? Why not?
Starting point is 01:00:10 I don't know, right? Yeah. I mean, hypothetically, I didn't know what happened. So what happened is I'm sitting on my desk and I get this, this, um, I think it was a letter, the letter said, uh, coach, I'm a big fan of this and that. Listen, I'd really appreciate it for this. Can you call this number and leave a message? You know, uh, for this intro for, you know, some, whatever name it was.
Starting point is 01:00:29 So I was like, Hey, this is Doug Morone at, uh, you know, Syracuse, you know, Syracuse Orange football, you know, so and so is not home right now. But Hey, if you leave your message, I promise you, I'll make sure he gets back to you, you know, so I leave the one call. So I guess they did it to all these coaches in college. So I guess it was a handful of guys that, that did that. I think it's, I always look at it this way. What's the big deal?
Starting point is 01:00:49 You know how long that, that took me? That took me seven seconds. I think of that when a lot of things come to my plate during football season, it's difficult, but when other things come to my plate where I have the time to make someone smile and to make someone happy, it's not so hard. I mean, with us two idiots, yeah, you know what I mean to make someone do it. So, so then, then all of a sudden I get this coach. It didn't come through.
Starting point is 01:01:10 I'm so sorry. I'll never forget. I'll never forget. I'm sitting there and I get this message. I'm thinking, you got to be, I got to do this again. I'm like, you know what, I go through that same thing in my mind. Hey, how hard is it to just pick up the phone set and I did it again and then they voted and next thing you know, but I think I'm a big believer that a lot
Starting point is 01:01:30 of people on the outside may not see how much I may do or may not do, but do on the outside because I try to instill in value with the players that I believe that you don't do good deeds for the publicity. If you're, if you're doing that, that you're a phone, it's phony. Yeah. It's appreciated that the deeds are being done, but, but you're really phony. So a lot of things that we did, I wanted to instill a value in the players of Syracuse that said, Hey, listen, we, we want to go and help people that may not
Starting point is 01:01:57 have as much as we have, because we're you and being, then that's the right thing to do. We don't do it to bring cameras in and snap pictures and say, Hey, look at this team. They're doing this, they're doing that. They're doing this. I think that stuff will get out naturally, but let's not make that our motivation to help.
Starting point is 01:02:14 Yeah. But I am a little bit woke on you because you're a very talented actor. So you might have just been like putting on a face this entire time. Nice. Yeah. Absolutely. Did I get, did I get an award? You're going to make us, see, I hit the sled after this.
Starting point is 01:02:25 How'd you get into being a thespian? It was easy. It was a, it was a more of a bargaining agreement. I had an English teacher that I wound up doing something in class. And because I was a football player, you know, there was that, there's always that when I was growing up, there's always that separation. So you have, you know, the athletes, you have maybe people that, you know, are very smart.
Starting point is 01:02:43 You have people that are very talented from a standpoint of instruments, you know, you have, you know, maybe the people that, that are an experimental group, you know, that are a little burnt out. You know what I'm saying? I mean, I don't want to stereotype anyone here. Okay. I'm not, I'm not. So you have all this stuff and, and she just felt like, you know, it was so, so
Starting point is 01:03:04 segregated in that way that she said, Hey, listen, I'll tell you what, uh, if you do this and go do this in a drama club, um, and you do it well, um, how about, uh, I'll give you an A for English. Now I'm thinking, shit, I got to get into college. So, you know, my, uh, I needed my core to be a certain thing. I'm like, when they help me in the core and that's what, that's what did it. But, but what I learned is once I started to, those people were, were just as cool, just as good as the people I was hanging out with that were in sports,
Starting point is 01:03:32 even so much that, um, you know, they'd give me shit. You know, the guys on the team like, Oh, what are you going to your drama thing? What are you hanging out with your other friends? You know, and I'd be like, Hey, listen, guys, I have a lot of friends. You're part of my friends. Don't, don't, don't hold it against the, this is after the, this is after where tennis ball, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:03:48 And that's what happened. I was fortunate when I went to college that, you know, I, I, I went outside of the football, uh, team, you know, and created friends that have lasted a lifetime for me. And I think it's important. That's why I try to tell, you know, a lot of these younger players, you know, Hey, it's great. It's a great support group, but don't let that limit you to, you know,
Starting point is 01:04:05 meeting people outside and experiencing new things because it's something that I think when I look at my, uh, my career, as someone says, you know, well, shoot, how hard was it to get up and talk in front of people? Well, it's not that hard when you're doing it at a, at a young age. And I think it helped me. What's your favorite play? Athelah. I was going to say fullback dive.
Starting point is 01:04:22 That makes you basic, I think. I think you meant play as in play. I mean, yeah, it was a litmus test for whether or not, for who's the bigger football guy here. Well, you know what, you can't, you know, once I'm on track with a thought, yeah, I'm on that track. Yeah, that makes you more football. Oh, that was a good one too though.
Starting point is 01:04:38 My favorite fullback is fullback dive though. I love it. Yeah. You got a good fullback down here. Yeah. Yeah. What about a shovel pass? I don't like it.
Starting point is 01:04:46 Cause it goes against the rushing. If they've made a shovel pass for the rushing or rushing yards, maybe I'll do it. Oh, no. That's fair. But I'm just. No, that's fair. Glory boys. If you have Blake on your fancy team, it's a great play.
Starting point is 01:05:01 Yeah, it's absolutely. All right, well, Coach Doug Morone, this was a ton of fun. Coach was awesome. Yeah, thank you for having us, man. Appreciate it. Anytime. Anytime. Appreciate you guys being down here.
Starting point is 01:05:10 Yeah, next time we'll bring some bologna. We thought we're going to bring some bologna, but we thought it would also be weird. Is it too expensive for you? No, we do. Or is this because you don't like it? Yeah, we only get $50,000 a podcast, allegedly. Oh, not trying to brag, not going there. You and I personally...
Starting point is 01:05:25 Wasn't in the budget? What's going on? $50,000 per episode is crazy. They hand us a big check every Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Yeah, we just gotta save it. You know, I keep it frozen in my freezer. Do you really? No, I just got a couple there.
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Starting point is 01:09:29 Go ahead, boys. You don't take another man's move. Oh, he actually stole it from Antoine Walker. The shimmy? Yeah. Yeah, and he stole it. Wasn't that, no, was that the wiggle? Walker wiggle.
Starting point is 01:09:42 Yeah, never mind. I'm wrong. New move. No, Steph Curry's the only person who's allowed to do that. It was a ridiculous shot that they both knew shouldn't have gone in. Steph Curry was smiling, so it was playful. It wasn't like a disrespectful shimmy. It was more like they both kind of knew that Chris Paul got lucky.
Starting point is 01:09:58 He was enjoying it. I want to clarify. When I say it was disrespectful, it wasn't disrespectful to Steph Curry. It was disrespectful to the game of basketball that he did it because they're friends. And so he did it as a playful thing. I don't like that. I don't like playful jousting. They all love each other.
Starting point is 01:10:15 No, you got to hate the other man. In my day, when Jordan did his shrug, he didn't do it to his buddy. No. Because he didn't have friends. No. Well, his dad. His dad, yeah. His dad and his bookie.
Starting point is 01:10:28 Yeah, yeah. They hung out once a week. Yeah. Every Sunday they'd meet up and exchange an envelope. I just, this might be the tactical glasses talking guys, but I just watched Chris Paul walk down the hallway and he's out for the season. Hamies are tough, man. That's what the tactical glasses told me.
Starting point is 01:10:45 I'm seeing things better than you guys. He was doing the, man, I'm so disappointed. I can't believe my season's over thing. That's just, that was the look I saw. So first, as first reported by me and the tactical glasses. I love it. So you think David Stern had something to do with this? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:11:00 I mean, very inconvenient injury timing. I want to give a quick Saber Metrics real quick. Okay. Let's start with Saber Metrics. We had to discuss this. I actually have two of them. Okay. One, this comes from, I think ESPN bleeped that out, four letter network stats and info.
Starting point is 01:11:14 Clint Capella's block on Draymond Green was the fourth time this postseason. Green has been blocked on a dunk attempt. Ooh. That's not a good. Is that counting the one where he blocked himself by not having any house? They actually added that in. Okay. This does not count blocks by the rim.
Starting point is 01:11:27 Okay. For a guy that gets in people's ass is Draymond Green. He's getting, he hates the rim. He's getting other people, other people are in his ass. Yeah. Right now. It's ass to ass. It's ass season.
Starting point is 01:11:38 Yeah. What's the other? My other Saber Metrics. Isar Mandeus says, Hey Caps fans. If you want a pretty optimistic stat for you guys, every single team that has defeated the lightning in any round besides the first round went on to win the Stanley Cup. Team of destiny doesn't get any more team of destiny than that. Wait.
Starting point is 01:11:58 Is that, I mean, I guess the only year I can think of is when the Blackhawks actually beat them in the Stanley Cup. No, no, I'm saying if you beat the lightning in the second or third round, then you automatically win the Stanley Cup. Wow. Right. So the Caps just won their Stanley Cup, their second Stanley Cup. They're two.
Starting point is 01:12:14 Yeah. Now they're two and oh. It's a dynasty. It's a dynasty. It's a dynasty. And we might go for a hat trick. A three-peat. It's a dynasty talk.
Starting point is 01:12:22 Fastest three-peat in the history of sports. Next up we have a Protect the Shield. So this was a big story on Twitter the last couple days. Thank God we were out in, you know, driving around on Great Week. Yeah. I feel like I did not want to get involved in this. No, I didn't see anything that happened on the internet this week. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:40 As far as we know, it was just basketball and that's it, but the NFL has come out with rules for the anthem. So the rules are you can stay in the locker room or you can go out on the field, but you have to stand if you're on the field. Is that correct? And if you kneel, then it can be a 15-yard penalty. Got it. So the NFL, God bless Rashid Gidell, for even instituting a rule that's boring.
Starting point is 01:13:05 And now like the explaining that rule is it makes my eyes glist over. It's ridiculous that they have to like put in all these different steps. Like just make it black or white. One thing or the other. Well, I guess that's part of the problem. Well, yeah, that's a big problem. But the way that they voted on it, it turns out spin zone, record scratch, narrator voice, arrest and development reference, they did not actually pass that rule.
Starting point is 01:13:31 So in the owner's meeting, they did it by a show of hands. They did not take a formal roll call vote. They just looked around the room and some people raised their hands. Basically they did an applause meter to determine whether or not. And so, and then they reported on it. So this actually is even more NFL than I thought it would be because it was ridiculous that they did this in the first place, essentially bringing up a story that they wanted to have die in the middle of like the summer for no reason, like literally no reason the NFL is
Starting point is 01:14:01 like, Hey, people haven't been mad at us for a while. Let's get this going. And now I'm learning from you that they not only did that, but they didn't even do it officially. Yeah. No, the NFL is really big on trial balloons. So they leaked it out earlier to get that in the press. And you're right.
Starting point is 01:14:19 They have to remind you, Hey, guess what? NFL is king. What off season. Yeah. So they leaked it out to like see how people would react. Everybody was like, This is fucking stupid. And then they're like, Well, okay, we'll let a couple of days pass. Then we'll do a secret vote on it that doesn't really count and see how people react to the
Starting point is 01:14:32 secret vote that came out. And so that's what happened. So now the secret vote came out and people are like, This is stupid. And now they're like, Oh, okay, well, it's not a real vote. So don't worry about it. Got it. So we still have another two weeks of narrative and storylines coming out of this one beautiful change.
Starting point is 01:14:47 Beautiful. Still, still okay. They actually should do an applause. Like by a round of applause. Do you want to, should they suspend anybody that drops to any during the national anthem? And then you hear just a room of like the loudest golf claps you've ever heard. Yeah. I would see Jerry Jones like coming with like the Pee Wee Herman hands and like just a huge
Starting point is 01:15:05 oversized hands that can they applause really, really loud. Yeah. And then Bob McNair has got the little hat on with the clap that claps as well for him. He's got Bob McNair's in the room and he's just literally Yosemite Sam with pistols. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:19 He's just, he's got a cannon, an old school cannon. He's just firing it off. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's probably exactly what happened. So everything we just said, it's such a perfect NFL story because they made it needlessly complicated. Yes.
Starting point is 01:15:30 They turned it into the catch rule. You know what though? So it's like how one knee equals two feet. Kind of smart. So technically when you kneel, you are standing. Do you make a football act while the national anthem is flying? Kind of smart. So now we're coming full circle on protecting the shield here.
Starting point is 01:15:45 No one really knows what the rule is, but it feels like the rule is that you're going to get penalized if you kneel. So don't kneel so that you don't penalize your team. But if anyone says that's not fair, the NFL can say, well, it's not actually a rule. Yeah. Exactly. That's genius. I want to get this to the point where Al Riveron is in the command center in New York doing
Starting point is 01:16:07 video reviews of whether or not a player's knee touched the ground before the game. I'm still waiting for Al Riveron to apologize for Zach Miller. So we're waiting. We're waiting. We're waiting. We're waiting. I think we're on a day like 250 or whatever. Miller watch.
Starting point is 01:16:19 All right. We have a new segment. He gets it. So explain what this is. So I mean, here, announcers describe a player, usually a JJ Watt type is just saying this guy gets it. Yep. He gets it.
Starting point is 01:16:32 And I'm a big fan of guys that get it. Yep. If you get it, then that's good. Do you get it? I don't know. That's not for me to say. And in fact, the fact that I won't say that I get it means that I truly get it. Yeah, you absolutely.
Starting point is 01:16:42 So I get it. So the latest addition to a guy that gets it is Baker Mayfield. Okay. He's a rookie. So it's tough to say this early into his NFL career where he's played negative four games because the preseason hasn't started yet. Whether or not he gets it yet, but he gets it. Well, no, the rookies sometimes can get it because in the draft process, if you want
Starting point is 01:17:02 to cover up their shortcomings as an actual football player, you can say, well, but he gets it. But he gets it. So Baker gets it. All right. He was on the NFL Network today. They had the rookie quarterbacks draw their team logo from memory. So Baker draws a Brown's helmet.
Starting point is 01:17:19 Perfect. Perfect. Beautiful orange brown. Brown. Yeah. Did he use a crayon? I think they had markers. Okay.
Starting point is 01:17:27 That's how much he gets it. Yes. That's how much he gets it. So he drew a Brown's helmet and then they asked him about it. They're like, Hey, why don't you have the stripe on there? And he goes, well, it's because I haven't earned my stripe yet because that's what the Browns are doing with their helmets this year. They're not giving you your little stripe until you prove that you're a true NFL guy.
Starting point is 01:17:44 Wow. So Baker gets it. Baker gets it. What does Baker have to do to get his stripe though? Like just throw a bunch of interceptions and get up, get on that jersey. Right. He has to get the name on the jersey. It's like the exact opposite of earning your pinstripes.
Starting point is 01:17:56 Right. The Yankees. You don't want the buck eye when you're on the Browns. No. No. The Yankees, you earn your pinstripes. The Cowboys, you earn the star on the side of your helmet. For the Browns, you essentially just earn a skid mark.
Starting point is 01:18:07 Right. It goes down the middle of your helmet. You're like, Oh, you tore your ACL. All right. Here you go. Yeah. Have this line of poop right down your helmet. You got your car broken into by a team employee in the Browns parking lot.
Starting point is 01:18:18 You get it. You get it. You started a literal dumpster fire. You get it. You get it. You get the stripe. Yeah. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 01:18:26 I don't think the Browns are doing that. That was Hugh Jackson's ace up his sleeve. He was like, you know, this is the way I'm going to keep my job for another year. We're going to do the stripes. You know what this screams to me as? It screams to me that it's Hugh Jackson had a conversation with a reporter who's a fake football guy. He likes to leak.
Starting point is 01:18:45 Oh, yeah. Loose lips. Loose lips. He was like, Hey, Peter, Peter Stregger, what's a good way for me to like motivate my team and be a football guy? Oh, you got to take away the stripes. Take the stripe out. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:58 You know, Tiger is a good answer. Tiger has a stripe. Okay. I'm going to do that. Yeah. So this feels like it's coming from outside the building. Probably Mike Silver. Mike Silver.
Starting point is 01:19:06 A loser. All right. We have, before we get to Jimbo's, we have a little talking soccer. So Ronaldinho. Remember Ronaldinho? Oh, of course. Not Ronaldo. Not the other.
Starting point is 01:19:17 Was there another Ronaldo? Cristiano Ronaldo. Yeah. There was another Ronaldo. I differentiate them by saying Cristiano. I don't say his last name. Yeah. To me, he's Cristiano.
Starting point is 01:19:26 He's doing that. Yeah. And then the other one, the British guy would always say is him. Be like Ronaldo. No, but that was the Brazilian dude who got fat with the funny hair. Yeah. Yeah. Ronaldo, Cristiano.
Starting point is 01:19:37 And then Ronaldinho. And he's got two fiancés. He's getting married to both of them in August. So he finally gets to have sex. Yes. That is, I mean, props to you, Ronaldinho. That's a way to keep your name in the news. It's a very good way to keep your name in.
Starting point is 01:19:52 It's also a good way to have a really shitty marriage. Yes. Well, no, one's probably going to be okay. Yeah. Like, one will be the one that you like and then the other will be, I mean, I'm sure the Mormons have figured it out, right? Right. I mean, yeah, they've been around for a while.
Starting point is 01:20:05 Yeah. I mean, it's like Hank. Hank's got two spouses with me and you, basically. Yeah. Right? So who's the bottom bitch? Who do you love more? Rancas.
Starting point is 01:20:13 Hot or not? Well, you have never said sorry to me, so. Oh, there we go. Yeah. Good point. That's because I'm keeping wanting more. Good point. I'm not a weak man.
Starting point is 01:20:21 It's abusive. It's abusive relationship. Yeah. Did you have another talking soccer? I did have another talking soccer. Yeah. So, James Rodriguez. Okay.
Starting point is 01:20:29 James Rodriguez. From where? He's from Columbia. Hamas? Is that like another word for ham? No, that's Hamon. His name's James Rodriguez. Hamon.
Starting point is 01:20:37 But it's pronounced Hamas. I'm not really sure. It's Hymes. I just remember he schooled a shitload of good goals for Columbia in the last World Cup. Mm-hmm. He's launching his own cryptocurrency. Ooh.
Starting point is 01:20:47 So it's just for Germans and Colombians. Well, and probably Russians. It's a lot of cocaine. Yeah. And it's going to, it's going to, that's going to be a big deal. This is when you should launch it if you're going to go to World Cup in Russia. That's a genius move actually. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:00 Like get paid under the table for, so all right, connecting a lot of dots as we're saying this, he's going to throw some games. Oh yeah. Columbia is going to tank and Hamas is going to tank because he's on the dole. He's getting paid in his own cryptocurrency from Russians. By the way, Steven Seagal, also very close. Also a Russian. Also a Russian.
Starting point is 01:21:18 Okay. Now I'm seeing it from what it is. Connecting all the dots. So we got to, we got to start our own cryptocurrency. We got to get to Russia. Yeah. What do you do first? I think you start it before you go there.
Starting point is 01:21:28 Well, you could, no, so I'm kind of up to speed on the cryptocurrency game. You don't have to actually start one. You just have to say you're going to start one. Okay. Well, so it's very easy. You just say you're going to start one and then you go to Russia and you get the money. Probably have to kill a couple of journalists and then you get to come back and get rich. First you get the crypto, then you get Russia, and then you get the women.
Starting point is 01:21:49 Yeah. That's pretty much it. That's the tagline. All right. Let's finish with Jim Boss. All right. Speaking of Ronaldinho, this kid was snapchatting two girls from Tinder when one invited me over to hang out.
Starting point is 01:22:01 When I got there before going in, I noticed they both snapped me. It was a picture of them together. I left. Wait, what? So this is not from Ronaldinho. Okay. So two girls snapchatted him. Then you got two matches on Tinder.
Starting point is 01:22:15 Yeah. I thought he was working them both. Nice. One of them invited him over, but then he realized that they were both in on it. And he pussied out. And he pussied out. That was going to be an orgy. What an idiot.
Starting point is 01:22:26 That's a jimbo. That's a jimbo. That's a big time jimbo. My high school buddies and I met up at a friend's house to see each other for the first time since we all got home from college. We were all drinking and hanging out in his basement while his parents were watching TV upstairs. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:42 They were like, okay, and didn't want to walk all the way up the stairs, so I decided to pee out the window. Yep. Just as I was finishing my stream, my friend's mom came downstairs to check on us and caught me midstream with my dick out the window. Ooh. The fact that she startled me ended up making me pee on the window sill. I need this to say she was not pleased and I won't be hearing the end of this anytime
Starting point is 01:23:01 soon. All right. Well, here's my first question. What kind of a weird basement were you hanging out in that you had a window that you were able to pee out of? True. Was it one of those windows that's like right up at the ceiling that you have to climb up and were you hanging from the ceiling upside down with your dick out and then just rolls
Starting point is 01:23:16 back in? Yeah. That's a weird move. Second, I'm pretty sure this is how most porn starts. So like the mom, you know, the mom and the best friend, they're like, hey, you like what you see? Wow. You like me peeing out of this basement window over here?
Starting point is 01:23:30 Wow. Maybe you could pee on another bush. Yeah. Ooh, there you go. Uh-huh. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? See what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:23:38 That's how it works. But she's actually 28 years old. Right. Right. All right. Last one. End of grot week. The second week in my new office, I pulled into a wide open parking lot in my mail truck.
Starting point is 01:23:50 I did a little too tight of a turn in the window park I caught on a small hook on a giant pole and took the door off. This parking lot was, as my boss said, the size of Gillette Stadium. It was dead empty. That's put, you know what? It's sometimes harder when you like, it feels like the pressure's off. You know? So that's-
Starting point is 01:24:09 Yeah, right. You turn the music up. Yeah. You start texting. You're feeling it. Yeah, you're feeling it. Man, I got so much room in here. You're like, check out all those packages I got to deliver.
Starting point is 01:24:17 Yeah. Pretty sweet. You start looking in some of the packages. I'm not saying all of them, but if you're a mail guy, you definitely- You peek. You have to peek a little bit. You peek a little. You do the thing where you maybe put a flashlight up to the car to see if there's cash in there.
Starting point is 01:24:30 Yeah. And then you slip the dollar bill out. Uh-huh. Yeah. If there's a Netflix DVD. No, none of the wiser. Swip those out. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:38 I wish I was a mailman. I wish I was a mailman. Yeah. I feel like that'd be fun. And I'd- I like the shorts. I would do it just for the shorts. Yeah, the shorts are pretty cool.
Starting point is 01:24:46 Show off the thigh guns a little bit. Yeah. A little khaki shorts situation. Uh-huh. Yeah. That's true. And you can wear cargoes without being a loser. What was that mean?
Starting point is 01:24:54 You know what that means. Yeah. You can wear cargoes without being a loser all the time. You know what that means. No, I don't know what that means. I wear cargoes all the time. All right. We have next week.
Starting point is 01:25:03 We're doing Tuesday. We're doing Wednesday. We're doing Friday. Tuesday, we have Tom Kreen, regular show. Wednesday, I don't know who the guest is going to be. And we're going to also do something a little different. Try to keep it up. Keep, you know, we're not going to have a lot of news between Tuesday or Monday night
Starting point is 01:25:18 and Tuesday night. So we're going to do something a little different for everyone. And then Friday back to the regular show. So we'll see you all then. Thank you for following along Great Week. We also might have Taffer on. We might have Taffer on. Yeah.
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